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Nina Parker + A preview to Max's podcast!

Heather Dubrow's World

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Nina Parker + A preview to Max's podcast!

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See Lip offers a drink every drinker crafted by distilling globally source botanical ingredients each of seed lips three variants spice ninety, four, garden, one, eight, and groped forty two are alcohol free but full of complex flavors simply top with a splash of ginger ale or used as the base for a more elevated serves see makes crafting cocktails at home easy visit seed lip drinks, dot com, and have it delivered direct to your door. Hey, everybody. Welcome to the show before we get started Nina. Parker's on the show today from knees nightly Papa Johns. Super excited about and then afterwards, I'm going to do a bonus clip of Max's podcast. I'll give it to you straight ish I'm actually on the show Ammo to play you a piece of that because I'm just so proud of this episode, and if your mom your daughter you will absolutely want to hear this. So, stay tuned for the end and check it out. All right. Let's go. This is heather do grows world, and now you can live in it two times a week right here on podcast on. Welcome back everybody. I wish I could tell you where I was right now, but I can't but hopefully, I will soon but wow what an experience any way I'm so so so excited I got the incredibly fabulous. Nina Parker on the show today from ease nightly pop a huge by the way I'm a loving your hair. Like. Little change little. Ball. SITUA-. I. Love It. Thank you so much for being here. With my technologically. Old Nature here took us a few tries, but I'm so happy to have you. You're welcome I'll. Thanks for having me. So well, nightly pop at really has exploded in to such a huge hit. You know I'm I'm glad I'm glad that people are loving the show that they're they're keeping up with. I think especially now during quarantine people want a little bit of something that just makes them laugh. Had IT takes your mind off of more serious things that we don't seem to be able to avoid. So it's It's a blessing that people are resonating with shop. Yeah it's Super Cool and I think that you know through lockdown we've obviously everyone is so starved for content because everything has gone down can't. illman. Re thing you guys do such a really great job of yeah. Doing entertainment all of that. But even like I love what you on daily pop to and what you bring to that because I think you have such a calming sound voice and I really think that at you and and the whole cruelty honestly really are shining through all of this because you know, I, think one of the things that's happened to whole thing is that. We. Want to see what we want to see and I think that the people in the shows that are really great are the ones that are surviving. Yeah. Yeah. No I completely agree with you and I not hope that it also gives people a little more to if we all kind of I I joke around and say, I've been to the Internet because I feel like I've watched everything I've seen everything. So quarantine is really gets. Kind of explore what they wanna see though you know it's it's you know people is later show all patterns were messed up. So it's a late night show in. It's you know it's really got popular. It's really fantastic. Coach how'd you get involved because I? Mean you've had incredible career and have done so much from hosting and your after shows that you do reunions and all that and everything you how did you get involved with nightly? I love watching the Zuma, your daughter's Monroe in the background now. Malaria's. craziest thing ever I can't wait to talk about this at, but you WanNa know it's so crazy. I. Think Zoom if I had like no inhibitions before they're gonNA. Zoo I. Walk but naked, it wouldn't faze me at this point I've seen it all either all I've really noticed how bad my neck and that's really the big takeaway. Is Bad. My neck is I need like. Well. Maybe you're not seeing in a good light show you later, but it's no, it's no brainer. Other I have other good parts I'm just going to focus. This lovable mixed you casey honey earth is fine. Oh aging is an. But isn't it true? Like don't you feel like since you've been on zooming do you tend to like pick apart more or did you at the beginning? I think at the beginning I was like, oh my gosh because it was, we had no access to anything. We didn't have access to get our brows that our nails done here was supernatural. So I was a little rough so you know. The lighting is at least okay for my zooms but I I will say it made you really comfortable a in Mike Mardi gras warm because I was like there's nothing I could do. So it really allowed me to like love on myself. In ways on might have been of waiting before roses. Accept this or people don't have to give them my program 'cause. I'm not about to do all these extra things whereas up. So it was actually kind of a blessing in disguise. I agree with that I someone who in my daily life people that know me new procedure I don't wear makeup. When I work I do and if I I would put on makeup but I. needed. My hair makeup dense day because I feel otherwise, it would have been. That's neat glasses on. My hair color thing. That's the only thing that bugged me. Yeah. Yeah. No I get that part to a lot of self explorations with products and things like that and there's something like I'm just going to attach because I don't know what I'm doing. So I had to come to switch really I don't know how to do anything. I don't know how to do my hair how to dress myself. Show. Where I can get specific I realize I have regressed quite a bit in the last few years. So if oil me to know any given me an amazing team and now without. That is so any never even thought about that because I went from scripted TV to unscripted TV. So unscripted, it was like having lady's maids in the best possible way. Let people just beat in your face all day and in a good way and I sing you zipping you and the bank and then on reality. TV. No one cares it's. Learn how to put on your own lashes, tape your boobs, and like do the whole thing you're it's it's not going to get done so true it's so true. It's just it's I'm very dependent now of. What not I just I invested really keep things like you know clear glass frames when I don't feel like showing my face off because I don't wear glasses but I'll have like really big bold glasses or things like that were like, let me just cheat do cheat code where you can't listen my face on yet I have a girlfriend that doesn't i. never do that that was a thing I didn't. I didn't know that I need to get like I, wear contact lenses and yeah, you are the real deal I. Am I am faking the Fox. So you know my sister was last as she is very resentful who who pretends to wear glasses other. We, you always want what you don't have when you need glasses so now. Will So. That but it definitely house you know. Right now absolutely. So So. Are you guys back in the studio? Yeah. We actually just started back in the studio earlier this week. and. So the first time back, we went last week for like a rehearsal. This week is like our first sight full-time. We fell Monday through Thursdays. So were back like full-time like it's it's really crazy to be back actor. You know we have been down we've been filming home. We haven't been in-studio since March. So it's it's different. It's it's a whole new protocol. So it's not like going back and everything is the same we're going to same studio, but everything is completely different in protocols in. We. Pray that. No one Hungover can't amend because we're also dependent upon each other and no one can just replace you like if someone's out, they have to get a whole Kobe test like there's a whole system now. So it last minute things are are no longer in production everything has to be land. Or? you made some at this also recently. People wanting to go back to normal. But but that's not actually the right way to go. I think with everything that's gone. There's been so many lessons to learn from the last six months. I mean like the craziest worst year ever on so many levels for some things, but I really do. Talk. About. Social, issues. I think. It's really incredible. The amazing but I want to start with the election because you're the video that you did of the debates was hilarious. All thank you. Thank you. Know funny because I mean were you just blown away if people haven't seen this, they really just need to go and Google and see how you did like this mock. And the monitor of the debates and. told them till the presidential candidates to calm down his and it was so funny and you were like the boys that we were all we all were at home going. Oh, my gosh stops. Yeah. Over the moderators because like I said, I was at eleven hip hopper unions for five years and it's not it's not easy being host. You know it's not easy. There's always GonNa be somebody disappointed and so moderating you know is which is what I was doing moderating between twenty people It's hard when it's a debate and people are they genuinely don't like each other they have visceral opposing views and everybody wants to get their point across. So I feel for the moderators. Do. Think. There is a level of politeness has to go away in order to get the job done and I think long are the days of just like this professional journalism that we used to do I. Think you know especially in journalism there are a lot of things that are. For for a really long time, you know there are certain ways that we do things journalism and I, think one of the good things with me if I got my career started a to Z and it was it was so unorthodox in so many ways on how to be journalists and so for me I think it's imperative for these moderators to kind of go with what's in front of them. It's like, yeah, I, know the society normally do do a debate, but that ain't GonNa work in this situation. This is a whole different beast. So we have to adjust to the time. It's time to stop any time to start paying you be quiet like if you're a little aggressiveness with these moderators, otherwise you're I mean, these guys are going to step all over. So I get the uncomfortableness of it and how it may look, but somebody's gotta get the job done. Why agree with you but I think part of the problem obviously is that you're dealing with the president of the United States and the former vice president. And I mean, you know what our entertainment contracts look like can you imagine what the contracts the debate like what out on it and then they break the rules in the debate so it's like you gotTa said, this is what you're gonNA do. So this is my thing if they breaking the rules girl going you recommend too because. You know we ultimately the pharmacist. So close to be for the American people, ultimately, this debate is providing you visibility on each campaign's provide information. So they're both parties are doing a disservice if no one could hear the other. So it's kind of like somebody has to put the foot down or platelets like it. I gained nothing from you know the first debate because I felt like. I couldn't hear anything it was disrupted. It was I wanted them to do like the Andy thing and just You know when there was interaction. So we can at least you able to hear somebody. Do you think. That canceled culture has affected journalists being afraid to speak out. I mean, it's harder for journals because while there there's not a ton of. Like household names in journalism you know what I mean there are. I think the people that are being affected the most are you know reporters on the beach at? Are you know in the thankless job where their local reporters where nationally people don't know who they are I think it's affected the press in general the media in general has gotten a background but you know it's it's just kind of what it is. You kind of damned if you damned if you don't I think there will always be some type of bias and so I think depending on WHO's reading it. They're gonna read into things a little bit more That's just the way that it goes. People are I think the media is easy scapegoat for a lot of folks Dick it's easy for people not to take any responsibility laying on the media blanche celebrities do it all the time celebrities have been saying, Oh, they took this out of context into somebody provides video like know what you said. So you know I think it's just kind of lazy in my opinion people always lame. The media instead of maybe blame your candidate. Maybe. So I'll tell you reality to be held accountable. Like are. In certain situations you know. It's so true I ain't. But what's so crazy to me is that I only wish it was more like a reunion because you know how like when your hosts reunion or you're. Like. I never said that roll the tape. I. I love it when I'm watching reality. I didn't say that they have flashback I saved. That so I really wish there was that after debates where it's like wherever speaking, whatever was saying, it just be played because you have to do now go on twitter and go find the fact checking. You know a lot of organizations now to do a fact debate where you can go and see what facts were real, what weren't but there are a lot of people who are you know aren't GonNa do that you know? My parents aren't going to go online and look that up like they're gonNA take whatever they theon tedious face value. So you know I almost wanted disclaimer like on twitter they give you the slammer. It's an untruth now and I wish that would happen just in real time. Yet no I agree with you because the damage is already done, right? This is heather dubrow world. If you were listening to you heard me raving about the health and wellness brand pink I'm obsessed with pink. The products are amazing and the entire line is developed by women for women. 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Are you like I know all emceeing for everyone is just everyone just very happy to get this year over with like I think everyone thinks that you know January first twenty, twenty one it's like magically like you know it's GonNa be like we'll Detroit's. Like, glitter coming out of the sky and rainbows and all this guy thing. But I do understand the mentality of we have like some kind of marker to the end of the year. We feel like things must get better after that. How are you feeling moving into this life in this last quarter I think I think you know. I'll say for me, twenty twenty personally hasn't been back like I haven't had a bad personal year. I know a lot of people who actually had a year as far as their businesses you know. In certain things that are that have come from some destruction disaster that this year is created, and then also I know people who haven't had a good year but I don't think everything will be magically fixed in January. I think at this rate, people will blaming twenty, twenty, one, the same that they'll be blaming twenty twenty I think we were talking about twenty nineteen. So you know I hope collectively, we all start to let it manifest things for twenty twenty one listen amazing year. But I just don't think everything's going to be magically fixed. In a couple of months but hopefully, there's I feel like nothing is bad forever. So I feel like because we're dealing with all of this bad right now, the goodest waiting for S. so I feel like it's just a natural way of things that you know I'm hoping that it a good things come them. So, I. Just see you I have my Christmas. Lights put up today. Okay it is October. And and I want you to know and my daughter's in the background she can attest to this. I've never done this before. This is the first year I'm not one of those. Let's start celebrating like seven months in advance I can't take it anymore like I'm I'm not that disturbed Halloween is sort of canceled. October baby my birthday's in two weeks. So I'M A. I'm a fan of Halloween, a big fan of the fall of the pumpkins like that's my jam. But so I don't. bums me out there won't be like Halloween Party that I'm going to. But I liked I'm like the seasons I you know especially living in L. A. we don't get them so. Everything, it's been I like it being you know how lean is time Thanksgiving it's time you know Christmas it's time I, like I like the distinction between the free because the web is going to be the same regardless Rosella eight search. From the East Coast and I miss the seasons terribly an. Exact. It's what is ninety five degrees in late to that. It's crazy. We the coldest summer ever, and now we're having like the hottest fall into the winner, which is crazy but there's the global warming for you but. Yeah. Like you I usually like to celebrate everything separately and I enjoy celebrating all things. But for some reason, I just feel like I need sparkle I, need lights I need I i. I mean if this is my thing, we all have to do far mental health during the time I know a lot of people in the. Kobe depression very early on. So I was able to work through it, but I have a lot of friends that have. Really gone through a severe depression because. The, pandemic. So I, think Christmas lights make you feel good. I'll give a damn if it's in July, do what you gotTa do to. Everybody else made you. I love that. All right. So so nightly POPs doing amazing. What what's next for you? What what? What are you? I have another problem special. So I did Bravo race in America a couple of months ago. We have another great. That's coming out with Robbo in that'll be coming out in November of I think he's actually November I. It it comes out a couple of days before the actual election. So that's going to be coming out of global liberties, NBC a talent that will be kind of talking about. Race in voting and voter suppression in really just how that's affecting different communities. In America. What do you want people to know about voting right now I think people need to vote early You know one thing I usually add in the past as I kind of handled it all by myself like what I've noticed is a lot of people are working with friends now and I think it makes it a way better experience like you know going through your sample ballot and talking about these propositions with your friends and family and and Actually Stephanie Insulin will my friends Kinda likes going over things. It's it's if kind of homework, Omar. But you know it's just super important I think the earlier you can both the absolute better. To prevent any type of issues, it's just going to be so crazy on the third. But if you can't early make sure show up, make sure you bought, it's just impair it. Absolutely. And the way they're doing mail and votes I think is so great and so saving on his mind I voted by mail and they actually think. Liquor yeah they do they do those great. You feel you know what? We all want our sticker. You know we it's like look like our little diploma. We do the work we want to be acknowledged for I'm not mad at the sticker. I'm planning on getting out this week and I'll definitely be rocking it. On the ground. Yet me to that was one of the things I was worried about by NOCCO owing person because I was feeling like sort of leery about going in person I was like but I want me sticker. I was like there's Have you. GotTa have an accessory. Jessica Yellen on the show you when we were talking a lot about voting and whatnot, and one of the things we were talking about which I thought was interesting was that some states are trying to lower the voting age maybe some have them now choose team. Yeah Yeah I mean I'm mad at that. You know what I mean a lot of six year olds or woke this the around you know. Wasn't and it wasn't for president it was for local I believe it was for local elections. But what I thought was kind of cool because I I went sixteen. What are you talk about the compare fill out their permit form you know like are they going to vote but I thought what a great way to get the conversation? Yeah I mean I think they're in it anyway, you know I. Think when I was sixteen, I was listen to what my parents were saying whether I agree I agree I think sixteen is where he kinda branch away from your parents to restart to develop your own ideas. Your experiences are different than them generational, and sometimes when you're sixteen, you're able to show your parents of version of the world that they don't necessarily seat. So you know I. Think a lot of people WANNA, write off teenagers as ignorant uninformed. But I know when I was sixteen I was going hard in the paint like I was making I you know I was making sure that I was informed about things even though I couldn't boat because it was working to my family. So you know of course, there will be people who are careless were uninformed. Don't know. But if forty five year olds out here doing this, shit so. Out here both. Can't be any worse than that I. Mean Why not? You could be a dumb ass at any age. Exactly. You are so fabulous. Glad that you could come today. So let me ask you this. If, you could pick like who would be your top three guests if you could bring to bring onto nightly pop, who besides me, of course. She won't Shell. This say beyond that. I would I would love doesn't do interviews anymore. So to have her would be ideal I would love it. Michelle Obama. Have you listened to her podcast? Yes, Jerry I. You know all things Michelle Obama and. A right. Now, just because of the picture he leaked presents. Oh well, yeah. Come on. Normally you know that gets you at the table. Say the one day I miss through this whole thing is one of the things I should say I really miss is dinner parties because I'm not someone I you know Terry and we'd like to go on alone dinner restaurants and I don't like big parties and clubs and stuff like that. That never been my vibe I, love having dinner parties just having people over and have fabulous cocktails off. The same you know like I told you, my birthday is coming up. So I'm dislike I really want to have like a dinner party. And I'm thinking about doing a small like maybe four people at a restaurant in patio not like I would do before but I'm Reid I'm you know I missed that too? You know things I didn't think I would miss. You know with just being out in action I mean now I love running errands because I'm just like I'm outside I, it's a bane. So I completely Agree. Isn't that so crazy but yeah. It's true I feel the same way although I still don't like driving Carpool back doing that. You are amazing. We you tell everyone how to find you and social media and how we find nightly pop. You can wash nightly pop on E. Sometimes, we're at eleven sometimes eleven thirty. So just make sure you D Dvr F but will on at night. You know you can check your local listings and see what time the air at night in your area, and then I'm on social media saying name cross the board. So twitter in ceramics. Gossip girl sends gossip girl. You can see my crazy tweets, instagram posts I love it and I adore you and I hope the next time I see it will be in person yes, I hope so to. Take. CARE. Thanks so much for being here. This is heather do bros world. Today's episode of Heather. dubrow world is brought to you by seed lip the original distilled non alcoholic spirits made from globally source botanical ingredients. 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So today I have with me, my amazing mother, heather do bro. I'm. So, excited to thank you for having me. Thanks for being on. Could event a little bit go ahead. Okay. So I want to tell you things first of all. Just touch Oh, just touch. Right everyone always asked me what it was like being married to a plastic surgeon, right? Because they think it's like, oh, he comes home with Bo talks are filled. I've gained bounds. Can you suck this ad take this place that doesn't happen this is. What happens in our house in Mexican attest to this last week Terry Leans across the table in a loving way and looks at me and goes you know I could burn those things. Super Sexy. Yet. How Sweet? But I didn't even know I had anything to burn off I. Talk about being offer going from super confident confidence a puddle of I need what do I need to take it off? I, don't know I do with. Crap off my face. Okay. So anyway. All this stuff, my face, and now I look like I have she you rallying can't tell you can't. No you can't. It's I'm looking at you. You can't tell I look like I have acne or measles. No, you don't. You look exactly the same can't. So I just always look. Back. At number. Number two, I'm very tired I am too. But I'm tired because there's a nine year old sleeping across my I didn't decide to have a nine year old. So that's. Nine year old in my he's the only one that was natural so I would just like to say an accident. A. Child but in any event so cat and cocos rooms are being redone because they chose the rooms when they're very young. So redoing them and. Is Sleeping with us because I've turned the guest room where we right now and Yet another office for myself because you know which is ridiculous it is but it isn't because if you think about it, I actually need a police house to film and what for my podcast from our Youtube Channel and so what I'm doing in this room is I'm changing all the lighting. and. So it's like a cool place to fill. It's GonNa. Look really good but la On the sliding for months it's not even had. They haven't even started yet and all they did was break apart the ceiling but that's because of this whole Kovin thing that. Is delayed but on the Air Aaron, here's this. You told me my room was too cold and down here it's too hot. Well, I'm very old. Heat flashes. Menopause. Not. Yeah. Harry. First stages denial. got. Four more mother. Any event. So Coco's been sleeping in between. which you know again, not sexy either. Not going well but. Love hearing about that. So anyways so that some tired and then here's the next thing. So I'm in a quandary about what to do about Thanksgiving. Why? Right. So I know you don't want to travel in your birthday and your birthday is Tuesday before Thanksgiving. So preface with the fact that mom promised me multiple years in a row that it would never have to travel on my birthday again, whatever man put it in the report all of saying is that All I'm saying is that. I hear you so I'm going to try to have traveled. Wednesday and we're supposed to go to Idaho right. But what I'm concerned about is that I really want the first time. You guys to go to Idaho to me incredible wanting to be like this amazing spectacular experience. What I'm worried about is I don't know what there is to do their when it's cold. Neither do we? I know about the lake and what I'm thinking is maybe we should go somewhere else for sure. Hear me out stay because. For Christmas, everyone's happy when we stay home. I would like to go somewhere. So don't. Know so what I'm thinking is just throw some ideas out in. Sure. Okay. So No, no, no I. saw. Saying. Okay. So we may still go to I, know I'm not sure but if we don't go to Idaho Idaho because I think I would go to Idaho the following year 'cause you guys have been there in the summertime He's got your places and you know the lay of the land can go during the cold season and it's like an interesting different perspective and. That kind of. And maybe you've made a bunch of friends that are all meeting up. Thinking and you guys are eighteen that. Burning Eighteen journey. Weird. So so I was thinking about that. So where can we go I? Don't WanNa leave the country good I don't either and I know you don't WanNa go far and and I know what you like. Honestly I mean don't tell the other kids unless they listen to this and then they all. Spread out evenly for everyone it. Doesn't matter. I'm kind of thinking about you and what you might enjoy. So I looked at a couple of places one place. Even say, oh I think you're GONNA say Seattle. Why would you want to go to save on and go to four grains I, love rain can we let the vampire? Moving on so there's a lot of Pale people in the rain there. It's me it's my it's my people. You can see them another time convention but. I'd like to. But Here's the thing. So wait before launch to where I want to go dad is so negative. Yeah I know about everything. So we're in the other one I go I was giving him the same exact speech I'm giving you and he was like why why they are going? GonNa hate everything game agreed but here's the thing we're very low key sounds like we're ungrateful. We're just Loki why don't find you ungrateful I know but that's what people are was like when. You want to go to X. Y. and Z., and we're like we just don't want to go anywhere by the way I? Think that's honestly a testament to the fact that you really like your lives and you like Y'all through and I love that I. think that's Great. But they're saying to be said for a little bit of a change of scenery and I just want to tell you for me personally as your mom maybe just look at it this way. I've been locked in his house for months and months and months and I love it. I know you do but I would just like to have a little experience. It's a low impact experience. is so but just to recap what I was talking about dad, we were talking about like the Europe trip we took last year, which what's funny is he thinks that I'm like my mother. So my mom we would go on a trip and it would be a disaster like literally every second of the trip was audience wasn't one shining moment and she'd be like what a wonderful. Remember when we went to fill the all social media is me and my sister she was way ahead of her time she was like instagram versus reality in our own brain way. So the my sister-in-law, it'd be like No remember you and Deborah fighting and there was. Nothing good about having good. Okay. I think I'm kind of realistic and for example, with Europe I knew before we went and I said it. Before we left there is going to be some really nice moments some really hideous moments but most of it will kind of lie in the middle now. What are you just be honest. You'd be real. What do you take away sort of highs and lows from that trip? What will you remember? I mean. Like. Europe in general is so pretty in obviously everyone wants to go there. But you it's like there's four kids very divisive which. Z. They're different ages and genders and hard. Yeah and then there's already like a twelve hour flight. Don't forget that I'm saying what are like the high points and what were the look? What's your memory? I just remembered not like. There's just a not a lot. You can do their under twenty one quite frankly that's true because it's everything you made us do was touristy. We don't. We're not tourists we are not tour hair and data is not Steve Butts. So don't want to do that. All right. Well, let me jog your memory, a little I, the only thing I remember honestly I have a really not only a bad memory, but also block out a lot of things. That's fair. The two things honestly only earth the three things I remember from that trip where the crown jewels because mom wouldn't shut up about it. As soon as we left, she wants a trl when. I needed here. Yeah. Exactly. So I remember that and waiting to our line for to see the crown jewels. By the way not. Not, so VIP front of Aligned Bright Way, yeah which mom and dad went to go get coffee or something while we waited in the line. Thanks mom you had a such a lovely guide to talk. Thank you. He was very entertained right. So entertaining told US history. There's that that was not a shining moment of. The other one I remember was getting Delano I mean I like food that's kind of it, and the third thing I remember from that trip is the fares wheel. What is that called the London I That No it I. thought that was cool. Sit on in a bubble. And Watch why okay. Here's what I thought was cool about the trip I thought walking through Harrods. You know I totally forgot about that Oh. That was the coolest part that was. So let me jog you to the fun parts of the trump walking through Harrison shopping at Harrods is not just shopping they have an entire. Okay. I'm obsessed with food and they have an entire cheese section which the foods don't you get food stalls but I had no idea what that was before wants. So like they have an entire section of different types of cheese and it's it's not even taste good I mean does but it's gorgeous. White Grocery store is that someone's actual groceries or the? That's so pretty people shop there. So when I told the kids were going there. We going to armed starring why are we going to UH supermarket but it was so Go to the KID sexual pretty years like Effendi Crib at your ridiculous. Malls huge yet, but it's beautiful. Pretty. So all the food is so fresh. So here's all my highlights from London I thought room. Super Pretty London was. Boring because there's I agree because there's a lot of history and museums. History? No we're not as we saw the sights and that was okay. But I would say highlights were Heritz. Yeah I Agree Height T. That was good and you remember at the height they had that Christian Luton pop up trolley in the in the Do you remember that that was kind of cool but the high tea by the way I thought I'd have everyone you love the high teeth mode just like taking pictures where there's a photo op right? That's what I'm saying that was cool school I really loved going to the musical six I was way better than I thought it was I didn't want to go because I wanted to go and it's very mature of you to say that I appreciate that even when it was a thing but it's just It's just annoying. So she wanted to go to the show but none of us wanted to go because we don't care about theater while I do not know I'm at the kids right? You guys don't. We tried to do a little something special for each of you but her thing was theater and I love you too I. Did not want to see six but this is we didn't WanNa she sex. No one understood the show. We can talk about when you hear that we're going to go to a musical about Henry the eighth. More history by the way. So you can't tell histories. My least favorite subject just put that up. But how good was the show the show is amazing actually, I didn't realize how many of the songs were Tiktok songs, but she won't really get. But like half the songs, I already knew all the words to really. Yeah. So sitting there looking at. Nikki. We like why don't we know the words to this? So we'll cat and Kogo used to listen to the music and the coral atolls, which I didn't know because we don't drive together because they go to different schools and drive now. Exactly. So they knew all the words. I thought that was experience to wasn't there another show you guys want to. In London es no like naked people or something naked people we went to a native wasn't no that was in Paris. That was in Paris So luxury. Yes. I'm trying to think what else we didn't but to me those were kind of a highlight. Those good. That was good. And then. We in Paris I would say the walking tour. We did have every sweet. Pastry shop. We. First of all I love Paris I so beautiful. Yeah. It's so beautiful like. Traveling I don't obviously don't really like traveling first of all. And second of all because I just like being home. I. Don't I don't know and I don't really feel like I'm missing out. But Paris is beautiful. That was the best idea we have gone to Paris old on I would have done that Paris is so pretty there's so much more to do there. Yeah, and even the things that are like historical or whatever. It's still pretty because this is my takeaway from Paris and Paris is Paris. It doesn't get much better than Paris savvy to say the only thing I was bummed about that. We didn't get to go up in the Eiffel Tower because the one night we were supposed to go up. It was fogged in. We were not mad about now. We were so tired. It's like the last night we were. So they were done and but by the way like my mom would have made, you go up there now that have been bad. No I know she she gets it sometimes. Yeah. I, get it. But so we were having a bite to eat it this little. Place and the one of the things I wanted to do was put a lock on lock bridge, but they didn't they read you in it or some. So what happened was years ago data and I put a lock right bridge and the bridge was getting. So hesitant to fall down thinking because the weight of the lots ridiculous cut them all off. Why don't they do like? We. Plastic that's probably not good. Oh. True. So Styrofoam yes something. So they cut they cut them off but now they started it again, they cut them off every year or something, but anyway, I have a lock may that said do bro Twenty. And I said to the kids I said do you guys? Hey, we're going to abort the mission to go to the Eiffel Tower even though I've never been because it's too foggy and whatever just let's go to the lock thing. Let's have a moment and I'm good and you guys were so cool. So awesome and we went there and we made a wish and we put the lock on their way through the keys into the into the sand was kind of like that. Yeah I like that plus it doesn't make you happy that. One day that lock we cut off and thrown away. All your wishes are gone. On it's like the last one you put on their dad are still going strong. Family will be and I'd just thought that was a very nice memory. So here's my that was cute I. Agree. Oh my gosh ABC Tuesday it is the moment you've been waiting for. Honestly the moment we've all been waiting for. It's the season premiere of the Bachelorette and it's all happening on Tuesday October thirteenth. Yes. Let's clear that up right now bachelor nation the Bachelorette is going to be on Tuesdays and on. 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Oh we I keep thinking about that. So funny just said that. So Fun Nikki didn't feel well, Nicki sat upstairs. He went upstairs really fast katharina being. In and she went upstairs and then it was you and me and cocoa and data and we Dan have so much fun so much and we never hang out like me you. Nikki you cocoa and dad never hang out. It was a very interesting combination. It was really fun so fun. All right. So here's the thing. So my mom would tell you the whole trip was fabulous. I would say that I would say. That was good. Okay. But there were good memories dad would tell you the. Disasters Oh narrow. It wasn't money flush, Blah. Blah. Blah, so whenever I approach trips with him, he's always coming from that place where it's very hard to make decisions for like the whole family and figure out what you may like, right okay. So back to Thanksgiving So the first thing on the on the idea borders, why are we talking about dad? You said I was just pitching. Brian. The thanksgiving ideas and shut me down. Oh okay. That's so what are the that was a long story God? That's revenue revenues not my strong suit. So. By the way, I've heard your podcast. Yours either hey, well, you know what? That's the whole point and you're welcome. Bailey I'm super proud of you. Know Really Am I love I love how you're taking podcasting and you really just have a natural voice and I'm looking forward to hearing. We're opposites especially, Miami as dad would say, especially mine by the way did he not shut up the entire time? He was even shut up could you put a button or something if I'm talking to? My will okay I literally morale's so it's funny because. I'm so much more chill with you and not just chill but myself. So my voice is normal. Do you hear it in higher? Yeah. On my other I was just thinking of other podcasts my voice like Yahoo. And I listened back and I'm like shut oh Jeez and now I'm thank goodness I'm finding it. You know what I mean it's like it's like the telephone voice. Yeah you have this camera. I do. Talk Good. A. Bad Camera Bat your normal voices so much cuter and like you have kind of a New York out like you just said something that was kind of New York. And it's someone you don't. So it's. Not You it's funny. Yeah. Are will let me know what I'm doing. I will work. Here's my ideal. Yeah. Idea number one is Idaho. Now, I can come up with tons of things. You've ever super cute fall. So we can do apple picking think that I can find apple picking and I think and I know they have this beautiful. Light. Boat this play that we take a boat fireworks and stuff they'll be thanksgiving. I don't know what else there is to do their own method. All dress bill can in Washington is about twenty minutes away. Beautiful Little Town shopping. I don't know. Okay. But again, I want your first time there to be so magical that. I'm not sure. Okay. So numbers you I'm saving the best one for Okay and let me just give my. Opinion on all as you go number one Idaho. Good idea not great sounds. More Boring in winter I think summer is I think where you're thinking is a good idea. But especially, our house will be have started by that hopefully and so we can go look at it. You know. Yeah. Yeah next I also have to factor lenient all of this because she's coming. We're doing. Okay. Number two. Okay. Big Sur What. So big. Sur. It's really beautiful and there's cool hotels there wait where's that. Where's it? It's north. It's on the way to San Francisco. I wonder how far does I don't know if it's it might be a driving thing. How far is it by car? What's an hour? Nine Minute Flight? So. That's probably what our I don't know. That's a lot of. Just. Okay. Anyway. I didn't really take a deep dive into it. Let's just say it's very pretty it could be boring. It's Six hours. So we lose Cli-. Okay. So big, Sur. What because I asked my that my girl, Nicole Brown love American Express who helps you might travel stuff about she sent me this huge just but a lot of them were out of the country and Go I'd like to go somewhere from ready for this. Because we're GONNA go Tuesday to Sunday to Idaho which seems to long agree art. So now I'm thinking we take from Wednesday to Saturday yes. Okay. I was right art. I've been trying to pitch that to you I guess thank God I'm going with it. Love it. There's word actually really like to go again. I really really liked to go to Sedona what yes. Where's the? So there is this hotel in Arizona. There is a hotel in Sedona to one, but the other one is called enchantment, and for some reason, I read about it a while ago and then I looked it up and I put it like I have a list of please says to go to Justin case. And then someone mentioned it to me the other day, and then I heard someone talking about on a podcast and I was like fine I was like this is this time. So I started looking into and here's the thing about Sedona. Its first of all. Gorgeous it's like eating red rocks and oh We're the really tall trees are no what's Talk about right gets another. and. What I thought. You would like about it is that it's got a lot of mystical. Things going on their properties and whatnot crystals and. Yup. She's makes Grand Canyon. It's near the Grand Canyon. Called the Grand Canyon was boring but we're not going to go to the Grand Canyon where to go to Sedona and by the way there's a spa. There's a spot anywhere go to Sedona for us because it's like a change of scenery and there's beautiful like walks and hikes and even the spies. So Gorgeous and built into the Rock and cliff thing and there's just there's a lot to do. They're going there. I go to San Diego. I don't WanNa go to see I don't want to go to. The outside. So especially in Cova Times, I just want to be able to go somewhere. kind of be outside breath. Okay. WHAT'S THE THIRD OPTION? That wasn't there. Saving. That was to know Idaho's the first one Jeez. Little. Tell you what have at this I'm GonNa give you two days to find a better option. Yes. Combo. No outside of the country. Mom. So why would we wanna go outside the country? I agree that by the way I think pseudomonas perfect. What's interesting? Can you look into it a little bit for? Yes but no This is my problem. No, it's just I'll find something better right well, then event would just like to go somewhere for a couple of days be together have a nice Thanksgiving and just chill they'll change of scenery. As it's close and I'm home for my birthday. You'll be home for your birthday and you'll be home on Saturday. So last Sunday before school good i. hope so I would say just go with it. Okay, we'll talk it. So next thing I was just I just thought about this I had a call with my college counselor today. And as some of you know I'm a junior. So I I know so I turned eighteen next year. I, go to college thirty one month. You're like one of those mothers to the child is forty two months I I'm like really I know it's ridiculous I say that because I make a joke every time bombs on her phone or dads on his phone and I'm always I always say you know you have thirty one months left with me. Are you gonNA. Remember that article on your phone right now or my face Shot. For Dad than me but well. Anyway. So I was talking to my counselor about what the Heck I have to do now because there's so much prep to go to college. So. Much to do, and I'm a junior psychotic Kinda thought you know I'm halfway done not a lot I can do oh no, that was wrong. I thought that meant grade wise. No. I know so I take my act take nine December, which is a standard. No Long. But okay. So rescheduled by the way which I'll show you the later but I put on her calendar. I am redoing the dates yet but anyway so and I'm starting next week. Subtle subtle quick up going. Anyway so I'm starting doing my act class again and I my act December, and then I'm going to what was the versus the cheer o that was terrified out. But is there I can your question? Yes you can show. You know I remember back in my day. It was just the SAT. Same. Stanley CAPLAN KLAG and there was like not a lot of options. There was no super scores could take it again because you it. Does it make it easier that now all so many schools have downgraded the importance of the tasks in some schools of even eliminated as it all. Thing to be honest the good or like the League schools did not get rid of it. They. Are, saying, it's more important than ever because. Here's the thing there's. Ample scholarships. If you are going up against someone that has act score and you don't or sat score and you don't they're gonNA, give it to them because they can't compare your scores. And they can't compare your grades because they don't know assuming you have the same great non-euro assuming of the same grades and then they're checking for higher things to make who would win lose. You would lose your if you're trying to get into a really good school and you're against all the people to be quite frank. Everyone has the same grades going into Ivy Leagues? Or. Better. So what sets you apart so what are the more than act I mean at some point? Don't they want people that are doing interesting things or planning instrument or? Yes. But if you to charity but right but everyone's doing that everyone's trying to get into the schools so I never would have gotten into college by the way. Oh, I auditioned I would have grounded their your. But Maybe. No but. So anyway. If you are trying to get into the school with the same GPA community service, everyone has that and you have an act and someone else does and doesn't you're more likely to get it especially if you do well, if you don't do well, not so much but. At least you took it I guess I don't really know but so it does make it. Harder. If you're trying to get into an Ivy League because you now you actually have to do well before. You could take it. Actually I don't know because you had to do it before so I don't know I, but there's also a faction of kids that are just very focused on studying and don't have all the other extracurriculars and clubs and things, and they do look at the complete person and I think, yes, because they don't just want. One type of person I know but you asked about the act right. So it doesn't take the pressure off. No. Okay. Unless you're applying to school that doesn't have one. But if you're planning to other ones to doesn't really matter every school you're applying to cares about the up every single. Note it. So I have. And then. To literally. There's something called. I can't remember the word but making it. So the colleges no, you want to go there. And or your interest or something your interest level. Yeah. Something like that. You have to literally do anything possible to make them on my it's crazy. They can track you like. We isn't that we didn't have that in my no nothing like nothing was one. In the year Gimmel. So I have so much to do this year which I didn't even think about half suit to tell me go through what do you have to do to what email them or yeah I have to sign up for all the mailing lists and You know. Email people don't even know honestly I've written down there's a Lotta. But junior years hard. You got first of all. Okay. All I have to say is. I am so lucky. And I don't want this is on. I am so lucky I am online for my junior year one Italy hit at the best time which not actually because terrible I get it but like for school purposes. Chef's kiss. Yeah because. I already junior years what the hardest year you'd say yeah. and. So are you have act college prep Blah Blah? Blah. Blah Blah X. Y. Z. have community service, Bob Law, but which like you should anyway but you know what I mean and then Now, I have the hardest year of school to that's crazy. So Now That I'm online, I don't have to drive back and forth. The fact that even Koroma's it's less exhausted. It's hundred percent less exhausting good for me because my anxiety but regardless of that. It also kind of takes away the social pressure. The whole thing one, hundred percent you have no. Need to priority or You know what I mean there's no. We're shattered I. Don't know nobody get it because I remember being in high school on it like even if you're in the class and you're there, you leave class, you're walking down the hall and you see so and so x. y. and Z. and that. A. And then you're bad onto drain on the next. Then, you're caught up. So I don't really this is gonNA sound. So annoying already know but I don't really fit in I'm different pick me choose me you don't get the deal. Okay. Whatever anyway Victoria's going to dial off. Okay Anyway. So I don't really fit in with. High schoolers just because I don't care. You've always been an older yet. A lot of people call me an older soul but. It's also leaning I don't have a lot of emotion but we do. But we don't just not. You know. Does that make sense? I? Don't know leaning in that I mean I love. But for you, you are very emotional. You just are not good expressing. No, that's not true at all. I'm so good at expressing my motion. I don't care. That's I had no no no, that's incorrect. The truth is I. Am Not Emotional I. Have a motion. Yes that's what. I. Not i. a lot of things most people care about in high school. So I don't care about anything anyone else doing high school I don't care about your drama. I don't care who is to you've always been. Yeah. I don't care and people don't like that because they. I didn't mean that I meant like you don't like to verbalizing. Writing it. Yeah. That's true. which is which is our right right. But that that that makes more sense. But which is why I kind of want to start writing things I don't know what but that's what I'm getting my typewriter could well, you don't know if you're getting a typewriter. I guess. Did you ever want to write a journal I, haven't journal. It's a five year journal and you write. There's a prompt every day Oh and you didn't know that. Yes. There's a prompt. I'll tell you it gives me later and as a prompt every day and. Each day, there's five slots, so you know you right down. The the the. The the what's the prompt I'm so tired prompt. For that day and then the next day and the next year you see what you wrote last year. Oh. So I started at year's not cool. So I started last year and it's going to go onto my first year of college right satisfy you should always know so cool that is. The best idea I wasn't even going to do it, and then I found it and I was like this is cheat lines. So glad you're right. It's cool. You know it's funny. I heard on your show last week I think my biggest fan I love supporter I. Show you saying that you listen to me and you wrote down all. We're. person. I love that it made me so happy I know it's literally it's so detailed. Hate to break it off right there but you're going to have to go to I'll give it to you straight edge to hear the full episode. It's so good right? Isn't she? Awesome? All right. Thank you guys so much for listening I. Hope You have a fabulous weekend and we will see you next week. Thank you so much for listening to. 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Goodbye to Alcohol - Series 3 - Episode 4 - DrinkNil with Fiona & Caroline

Goodbye to Alcohol

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Goodbye to Alcohol - Series 3 - Episode 4 - DrinkNil with Fiona & Caroline

"I think if people didn't have a preconceived idea of how to taste. I think they'd probably will be patiently surprised Actually all so if you just take it as a drink and polio sulfur levy and it's nice and cold and he put some ice in a special site or whatever you want. It's really delicious but as soon as you say well. This is a seven year blanket. People say oh nuts It doesn't taste anything like book. It's horrible welcome to goodbye to all of calls from wealth without wine with you want to say goodbye of already said goodbye. Twelve cold over the. You're just so curious. This is the podcast for you. We've got recovery stories to inspiring you experts to inform you plenty of advice on how to ditch the drink and change your life. Hello and welcome to the by twelve coal podcast. My name is john garang. I'm the founder world without wine. And i'm your host for this podcast. Thank you so much for cheney and we believe it's really really hard to change your drinking elaine. So weld without wind. We're all about community all about keeping each other on track each week. We feed truck muncy voice just to give you a flavor of the awesomeness of all tribe. His lady from one of all what subgroups morning everyone. My friday win is next week. Next friday i keep on thinking about. I'll be five months of booze. Which i still can't believe. I just think the win is this. I don't waste time anymore. Feeling hungover feeling guilty promising that i'm going to moderate. I just feel very stupid. This i started drinking at eighteen. Drank for forty years on and off just using a celebration and commiseration and my friday win is that. I've probably gone through the worst times in my life in the last five months with losing my dad last month with having an intruder breaking in the holiday accommodation now. My friday win is never even considered having alcohol because all it does is take it gives you absolutely nothing. And it's really sad this some people. The world are led to believe this with the glamorous photographs that it's you know something fun and something so i'm just really really lucky and happy. The janet's world without wine memale popped up during lockdown. And i was ready to take the plunge once and for all to not spend any more time. Wasting my life on something. This is just not worth it. I would never have believed when. Lucy talk about the bunny field. That life is so much better. There's an. I wish anybody on this journey. The best of luck. Just take one day at a time and carlin and i will be hitting our hundred and fifty days few days and i hope to meet all the locals on this group at some stage so we can celebrate with nice cup of tea or coffee which actually is just as good sandy. Thank you for your lovely knows. I'm really really chuffed. The it's just sprint by everyone. If you want to join a woman welcoming community and get some bit of support just go to weld without wind dot com and click on the membership top now. I teach drink nearly six years ago. And during that time. I've witnessed something of a revolution of witnessed a definite shift. To surprise he as people start to question deeply entrenched drinking habits and i've also witnessed an explosion in the all coal free drinks market. The beginning of my nondrinking life was a bit of a sad place. When i went out i had to have a coat cord also water or an appetizer. I didn't really like any of those things but gradually things have been changing. Let's do remember how excited we were back in. Two thousand sixteen when duchess came out with all cul free gym and tonic. They were the first to recognize the ever-growing need for an alternative to alcohol. Then came a few alcohol free biz. Then siedle it. All coal free jin was launched in the uk and gradually a few wines began to appear until here will six years late with more than a hundred choices of the really exciting news of few today. Hot off the press is that we consulted any of those choices directly from a brand new online straw. it's cold drink nail and it's a one stop shop for all of our alcohol free drinks today. I'm chatting to the brains behind drink. Nil two lovely ladies called carolina and apart from giving us the low down on this story and sharing their favorites with us. They're offering a fifteen percent discount on products so please stay tuned. Find out more so thank you very much for your time ladies. Let me ask us. Keep both to Kickoff by using yourselves. Please mckay okay. I My name is fiona. I the originally from the uk of being in south africa for eighteen years now and live in somerset. West with a small family to goes on. My husband is actually a wine producer. And yeah. I've always been in marketing and branding and brand development who might careers twenty odd years of it Most recently moved more into online retail. An ecommerce with six years spent with the yuppie chef which is very well known african retail on retail which. I'm sure you've heard of and yeah. I left that last year. Set up my own small brand consultancy early. This year i help. Small companies with them auditing and then caroline approach me a it was about august with the idea for grennell and said did i want to be involved. In some way. I said absolutely didn't even think twice baton and here we are so that's very brief introduction to meet fairly well it it is an awesome idea. Well-done caroline let's say forbid thanks jennifer my name's caroline and i've born and bred in cape town happy living in some situation for the last seven years with my husband on osmose sudden and also microbes. Earning been in the wine industry. Enjoy wine very much but it is definitely a drive full. Having a little bit more of a healthy healthy consumption in a bit more of a healthy life might have another business also in marketing communications Specifically full the heels penalty sector. And the i've got together in august and started this new venture and it's been really a great learning curve full for both of us if a sense not looking back. We're looking forward folks. So how'd you get the that comes to you on they all. Have you been thinking about this for awhile. brilliant idea. I think you uganda going style. Thanks actually. At the beginning of the i am stop doing research into the sort of non alcoholic drinks market. And i. I really wanted to stock my product. That was my plan. And i got to get rid of like minded people. He will also keen to stop a product and we didn't know if it was just that we all have jobs in all super busy but we couldn't really get off the ground and when we finally set out and did some costings we will realize that cashflow was going to be a big problem. So we shelved it for the time being and then obviously corbett hits and of course my interest is piqued the by the fact that they were suddenly people couldn't drink alcohol and couldn't purchase alcohol and all of that as my husband actually suggested to me if you come up with your own product stop moping around and the start stole where you can sold normal colleague products and then when you have your product one day. You'll have a lovely platform. So i was thinking about for a few days Actually finding mixed fiona for the first time. I think in january through a mutual friend and i really enjoyed our meeting Off at that stage just as someone reluctant from and she's got a fantastically different skill. Set to what i have and and that's always exciting Mentioned nudity message to nice. It feels strange because that one time. But i've got this new idea. An added like chatty about it's an honor Big background in digital marketing with tom. Epi i figured she'd be the right person to do it. And you know sometimes at these things. It's a little bit easier to do it together than it is to good on your own and in this case it definitely is because i think if it wasn't probably wouldn't done at all i'd still be sitting here saying i wish they had an online store that specializes in on drinks. I a syria deactivated. I don't really know how to approach it because i had done Research in holland online. Stoic she weeks and things like that we just chatting and she started really exciting. Which was exciting for me. And then i like that was in the beginning of august and sort of come three weeks later restored restored building the site we had branding will sorted and we had a little taste in office in sade will by the beginning of october. We wanna be live and we managed to do that on the ninth of october. So it's been a really great journey. You're listening to applaud cal's from weld without wine. Well down beside looks beautiful. But why do you think that so much. Interest these days in alcohol. Free drinks i did. I think it stuffing is it's sort of two two sided a little bit to eighteen different markets in terms of age groups. And and i'm talking more about people here who you know not drinking for medical relig- religious reasons people who kind of trying to drink less still drink a few glasses of wine hair nap but just trying to whatever reasons just trying to get healthy. Drink less than i on the one hand you've got people in sort of minden caroline's age bracket Here may have small children small kids and they just need more energy. And an explosion of the health market veganism and vegetarianism. And all of that in the last few vegas is just going mad. Missile part of is around treating your body like temple entries better and people realizing that having a little wine is is crazy. And it's not good for you And when you when you're working and you've got small children at we oh we're not sort of bracket at the moment. It's you need the energy that you could get a Glass of wine and evening might be okay but any more than that. You're going to start to feel it the next day so There's of various those kind of people out there. He just wants to know tentative. And then i do think there's something in the millennial generation at whatever that is these days because it changes all the time but you know. The guy is used as a nestle late twenties in late teens and early twenties Very different from l. I was that age and just generally. There's just less consumption of alcohol. That really is a and it's just not cool to drink a lot anyway. More than two or three glasses of wine whereas I didn't count but setting when i was at university in the uk up in scotland. It was crazy the amount that the kids at that time we went action and drunk far too much and it was just mobile's the norm and i think that's something in connective. See these days people you know that there was no such thing as video cools and messing in my day to go out to a bar. Pablo somewhere it's people social is now. I think a little bit actually happens from her. You know people like like this on a on a a three or four or five way. Zoom cool or something like that. You need to go into her. Drink to socialize and to chat with your friends and catch up in that kind of stuff. So i i don't know i sent me think you know this is just a a growth generally and in this health market which is fantastic. Of course can be wrong with that is great and then you know the drinks market. You know the drink supplies has just met that demand and they've just said well as people needing stuff Needing interesting alternatives. And you know up until leave him. Three days ago really there was nothing interesting anyway You know anywhere in the world really for a few winds coming out and alcoholic narcotic bears been around for in. There's been some interesting choices that but in terms of wine. We'll talk about that later. I know a bubbly. And and then all of these jenin alcoholic region talks and stuff. There was nothing available and the supplies have met the demand. Now there are some really fantastic drinks available which we really enjoyed finding eking out And you know they're on the sites and it's just kinda grown together. Outsiders jim but as you say is set knee exploited as just quite extraordinary. That would be excited me. Most off my through initial chat with karen when she came to me and she said this is what this is what i wanna do i i. I did is went home and googled her ideas. If anyone else is doing it. I just couldn't believe the nobody wants. It's not to say that there is an someone else out at probably thinking the same and maybe putting together a retail side to as we speak. Maybe but i'm really happy that that we were the first and because i think this is this is an exciting opportunity in people you know. They like specialists. They like to go somewhere where there is just you know a dedicated space ones stick type of products saying trump's is under full this. I'm much choice these days. I stopped drinking six years ago. I swear there was nothing and going out to me makes it difficult with my warned. Koh combined loss of appealing thoroughly but people in our community that giving out. Now you know the the completely different anything faced a new mention the mums thing. I mean you know about the moment juice syndrome. you know. it's really quite bad thing some circles but if it can give those demographics choices you know something else to drink can really change the healthy. Yeah i'm meet so many people that come to us that the exercising you know the rumours lows of the people on the The gluten free of yoga Every rhetoric capable through wine a night. it's craig's snow. The this is going to help so many people to to do that shift. I think agreed. Talk a bit the alcohol ban here in south africa because that was pretty unique in the well i think will serve. What kind of impact has had on sales. Do you think until i was talking to your hand from the duchess about this today and he said it was quite significant. Caroline for this one you know. I think i think what it did do. Is it opened up. A lot of retailers is into the world of non alcoholic. And if i just take we have a little spoke the road from where we live and at the beginning of the lockdown and had hardly it had probably three or four different options of non alcoholic drinks alcohol free By the middle of the lockdown. They had a whole shelf fool of things and obviously from our perspective at. I think that helps us. Actually because you know if people are drinking alcohol free o'donnell colic and they find something really like it means that they'll probably go in search for other options and we've got a really great selection. I think fianna almost one hundred now different products on the stool hundred. So you know. I think I think it's all it's all it's all good for our business and i. I definitely think it's good for people trying to consume this or be more mindful consumption. So yes and. I also think that it opened people's eyes up to the fact that they don't need to drink alcohol every day all so often or whatever. Because i didn't need to something that wasn't readily available and i'd like to think that People suddenly realized that they were alternatives. Which possibly you never really thought about before because it's just easy to grab a beer or wine and now you can sold sold. Grab a beer and a glass of wine. But you don't have to have a big old hiddick knicks moaning. So yeah i think I think we we. I don't know if it said you on sadly but we can't miss both of those Both of those entities because we didn't hook taiba. But i did have a giggle and be careful what i say because a lot of my clients are in the wine business. I'm very focused on. And i'm very happy that they consult again but when they was that reema going around the other day about how they were gonna shut alcohol. Sales i was the facetime feels so sad about that. Luckily i think just from office victim we we definitely i think. A lot of the people and a lot of the feedback from is that people all keen to try new things and they all came to. I think the tomb is so curious. I think these squad. That at the moment and i think it's nice to be able to have options for those people i mean as you say At a party is just no one's it's fun for anybody so we spend a lot of fun interesting and i must. I've i've changed the way. I drink definitely since we started this. I think it's because we we have an hit a hq here in a twist where we have stock and i'm surrounded by boxes of non alcoholic drinks all day and when i leave you often and i really feel like drinking non alcoholic cider. All know jenin tonic with no call in. Its release something special feel so. It's tiffany changed the winning the that i've i view consumption and i must say i feel a lot better forward needlessly defined to couple the puck house from world without wine. If you'd like to join our tribe please check council website but that wine. Don't call great. Yeah we'll talk. Hang up the oklahoma banai spirit. Something really interesting here in cape town that you heard about this restaurant here lot column and they opened a a wine. Pairing experience alcohol free drinks with about seven or eight courses of food was it was so nice you know and so they did that during the alcohol ban. I went last week. And i was just quite intrigued. All they still doing this or have they gone back to the usual formula and they're still doing. It must have been for the alcohol ban. They never resulted that a torch manager. He said it was. It was so creative because for the first time ever the ball stall on the the chefs. You know they got together. experimented with all these flavors. That was great. Yeah Thinkable the drinks to be honest. But i know that said they have a they had a marguerite tell to start with a tale which was absolutely divine. One of the cold six came out with alcohol. Free beer an surprise that. But then i was talking to a wine expert but i know she said to be illness. The flavors in those non alcoholic beers are quite Deep and they would complement something so that was fascinating of unusual toll to them. If you don't already supply them because that is an issue that we talked about a lot in our community because we you know we still going to restaurants even though we drink and we can get oko free beer nearly everywhere but this still not stocking the wine i'm trying to. I've got two theories about six. Probably just paranoid for both of them. But i think that they get too much non alcoholic wine because if we drink king not than we tend to just drink one full united says two of us. We're not going to have another buffalo and if it's a big table they're not gonna have both of to buffalo because you just don't want it so i've got that theory that they draw the were drinking alcohol because you'll drink more. I also run the new. You might know the answer to this. Is our sell by dates on bs known alcoholic wines because we as we know most proper wines they age. Well i'm wondering if they keeps i will. I do know that they don't keep so well. Once you have opened them because obviously hall itself is a preservative. But i think i should say this may be quickly looking now at bustle but i actually don't know the certainly on the bottles that we have in stoke. There's no best before date to anything like action on this under soignes statement in between twenty one coach would probably be eighteen months since it. And i think i'm jealous. You'd have to go and research nell property but someone did tell me that. If the product doesn't contain any food product it does legally have to have a before day on the issue that we had when we were researching that product is unique to be caught up with your stock because you have to move it within a certain period of time. It's not like why not you can sell over three vintages woodhaven. It'll still be fine. But yeah i think i'm not sure if it's at a retail sort of a law something like that but i'm gonna look into it liberal for our community anyway. We would love alcohol free wine to be more available in restaurants the moment obviously now we take colorado widely around alcohol free wine of course but then the restaurant allergists coal cage which is tricky shoe. It really is but it'll be it's coming. I mean does refunding if we get a lot of requests from the trade And it's definitely something that we are looking at for next year is to open some kind of distribution which is which is exciting. But it's a whole different business model so we're not there yet but some but don't worry we were on it coming along. You might not be aware of. But i was talking to someone who's connected wing. Ab imbed the other day and they actually have a direct to the who is in charge of alcohol free beverage. He's within four or five years. His if his policy of the business will be bringing in twenty five percent of the ten really taking from sofia. Can you take us through because we will get very confused. I should know by now but no no catholic alcohol-free deal kalis give us a quick summary. Golly okay so. I hope i've got this right but i think i have caroline. Please jumping a wrong here. But any any product whether it's a food or a drink only has to be cooled alcoholic If there is over one percent of alcohol in it'll abc's alcohol by volume. And i mean something like a ripe have will write banana or even a very full fat yogurt. With loads of natural bacteria in is almost one percent alcohol people that realize that so so anything. I've one percent is alcoholic. Anything under is is known alcoholic but generally Apart or drink has to be a note point five percent alcohol by volume to be cooled non alcoholic so not point five percent or less and to be cooled alcohol-free the drink has to be note point note five percent oles so you can't call it a drink alcohol free if it's got moving northwest note five percent but anything less it can be Deok allies radio neon stand be corrected him really only refers to wine and some biz which is basically the prices of starting with an alcoholic drink or an alcoholic wine and taking the alcohol out that full d. Alkalis ing it. With things like jin's gin and tonics and some of the spirits with a normal. Gmt for example. They they they are just Made from scratch just different juices different drinks. Something like gyms really easy to make just because it's so naturally foot of botanical juniper and famous as classic botanical that we all know so you can is just. It's just that kind of drink. But without the alcohol so with deactivation. I think karen. I might jump initiatives. But more than i do. But it's it's basically prices of taking alcohol out of the wine or the bear and is done vire vacuum stunning technology. It's very complicated. It's actually incredibly expensive and is one of the interesting things. A lot of people say to us with gosh y you know the alkalis wine. It's still sort of eighteen. Ninety random bottle is it so expensive. Well it's actually more expensive to make decline that. It is often a normal. Why because of this is a very special vacuum process that they that they should add to the wind to take to distill the alcohol out basically so i didn't like what that right cowan could you want to add any more on that one or that about right now things about rocky and how you've got gal to work with people that really need to stop drinking and so i running weld without wine over five and a half years now so obviously people in in our community the first people to taste these. These localized winds alcohol free drinks People love the including me are never drank beer when i was drinking but now might go to drink his still the alcohol free beer and we've tried all the winds but the verdict usually is know that doesn't taste a toll light wine you know. That's that's more like great jews. And i still have found one. I love the one. I like best. I prefer the bubble as the ice cold and in champagne girls. You can oldman. It's kind of fully ourselves by us for red wine or heavy known blunk tightwad. I'm still struggling. Although i did hear you ladies on pippa talking about some very interesting ones so tell us more what you think. We should try listening to goodbye to all calls from weld without y you know I've had this conversation so often with With coming from a wind background. And i know fiona has as well. I think the the big problem that we're actually doing from a marketing perspective in the industry is that we tried to sell a product. That actually isn't wine as at an we doing by packaging it in exactly the same way we putting the same naples on using the same bottles The the marketing blurb at the back is all about wine. And i think when you are wine drinker when you when you enjoy wine and you get faced with one of these options your it's not you probably all going to be disappointed to be honest. I think it would be better to approach it as a sort of a wine alternative even using the word wine. I think it's a. It's an alternative. Made out of grapes. Ready and i think if people didn't have a preconceived idea of how it should taste. I think they'd probably be based in t surprised at how nice they actually all. So if you just take it as a drink and poi- assault levy gossen. It's nice and cold and you put some ice in special side or whatever you want. It's really delicious but as soon as you say well. This is a seven year blank. People say or not it doesn't taste anything like somebody black the horrible so i got two people all the time. I must say. Try to think of these drinks disagree. We have to taste wine way start drinking. We don't like the taste of any all call usually but we have to keep trying. Keep experimenting fine but we like so. I think if people think of all of these strengths as a different category so With a wine. And then we've got the alcohol free so. I think that that is the way to go but having said that recommendation. Msn wet one thing that has been great and the experience that we've had is a win. The first winds came on the Whatever two years ago three years ago there wasn't a lot of other products to compare with. An i think it just. It was a brand new category so i think it's come a long way. I definitely think some of the products that we sell We've got a lovely one called cognitive. Which is a a swedish south african wine. But it's actually exploited to sweden. So we have an exclusive on the stole. It starts some very high quality product and then goes through the spinning coin prices. So you know you're not taking an inferior whining. Fiddling with it in in the winery ending up with something really inferior. You actually starting with something. That's great and ending working backwards to to try creighton in product that is palatable and people will enjoy so from wine perspective the i love the uncanny. I think the uncanny another another a little can children fifty more pull which is great because this field i mentioned earlier If you had a whole bottle on your own. i'm not sure. How long lost in the fridge for you and you. Maybe don't want to take the whole bottle so this is great because it's in a hundred and fifty more poll and it comes as a in a seventy blind canepa tajon. They started very very high quantity wine in the beginning. So you know the the flavors that you get caught typical too. I i must say it feels like a treat opening up you'll cannon and also you can take it with you wherever you go because it's easy in light and portable to. That's in the cognitive. As i mentioned earlier is fantastic. But i'm one of the ones on. The sites. funding is dawning sailors. They make a seven-year blanca rosa. And we saw we do sell quite a lot of quite a lot of people seem to enjoy it. You've had good feedback on it as well. So maybe that's something you should try. And if i just jump in as well Is slightly irrelevant. Because not live yet. But i will just say that we had a really interesting wine tasting last week. I think it was. Hey caroline wine and bubbly tasting of a few of the products that we already missed some new ones coming coming our way. And we try to particularly good seventy blown which is a says not live yet but it will be hopefully in the next few days from bonnie valle which is near robertson between robertson and sweden them And it's seven blunk on we really enjoyed. That is a white really lots of seven young features but nice and dry nice freakiness. I love dry finish in and really drinkable. And so look out for that one coming soon. We'll seven trusting your your point carolina if he stole with a good quality wine and then do the dale colosio. you'll end up with a much better products That makes a lot of sense stepping in. Yeah bearing in mind we coming up to the festive seasons. I was going to you. Lay these if if you'll give all community that of help by recommending some making up you know a a selection for a sin may be giving us even time discounts. What do you think. That's absolutely fine with pleasure and now we have. We have given us some thought and actually we have just launched on the site a few different types of of gift boxes which just got mix selections in different categories for this for christmas. But she just we'll probably keep them on after a nice kind of taster of different brands for people who are not sure where to start And they're already study discounted because you're buying in bulk so they ought discounted anyway by ten percent but we really happy to offer an extra five percent to weld without wide members To as she getting fifteen percent of these books. And we're gonna offer that onto the boxes. I'm sure genital put out the details later but One is a box of bears. School debris ski selection and It's just a selection of bays and insiders and a couple of ginger ales. Maybe possibly more for the guys and then Then we've got a celebration box which is a nice mix of bubbly wine and i think canal all Non alcoholic. i think i'm right in saying what's in there so Yeah we'd love to offer offer your members. A discount off two boxes is a start and we'll from that but hopefully that helps wonderful. Thank you. So you're that'll run kind of from now till the end of the year should have said that that said she can run from. That's live now. Yeah anew delivered nationwide don't you what. She's is fabulous. Yep select let really thank you both in asking. You feel favorites. Oh coal free drink. I i must say i really love the origin range of japan's. They've got three different types. And it's from a maiden a little farm in a refusal to end and all of the botanical harvested farm and it's made in proper hydros stole so it's actually really. They've taken a lot of time in if a to produce the gen and it's got fabulous flavor and it's brilliant with it with a dash of Of lemon juice or or a little bit of cucumber or some spices and allegedly tonic for very refreshing often Say it's definitely something that goes on very nicely in our household. thank you. i a. I'm going to go with two if you don't mind i'm not gonna i d like a lot of the winds but we've spoken about wine so i i love a an iceberg and this is a big brown which i'm sure most of your listeners would have heard of but i really do love the devil's peak hero range of beer. It's so beer tasting. Some real actually believe you're not drinking real beer so i i think not Narcotic bears and at my also love is new to me. I need tried that. She sweet but we've got a company with the drift brewing company And they make the most incredible boohoo. Gin and tonic. Says it's a alcohol-free gin and tonic. Ready ready made with baku flavors and i never really been a big fan of the who. It's always quite toucan hobie for me but actually this is just really subtle but it makes for ready adults really interesting Ready grownup join in. And it's really refreshing delicious. So those would be my two recommendations. Thank you so much. I'm going to try every they'll be just coming your way very inclusive really gonna take off so well done for the idea ron and good luck with future. An option will be in touch. Thanks chesting yeah. Wow so they had me talking to fear. Caroline who launched drink new just last month. I'm going to summarize some points from that conversation. We split the reasons behind the popularity of alcohol free drinks. We decided people much more health conscious. These days funeral and caroline themselves both moms of small children and they've got correa's so they need to clear. Lots of energy to cope the millennials. Just don't drink like we do. They don't really want emulate their parents and then of course there's the growing trend of this soba curious. We talked about how sometimes people exercising a lot eating vegan and gluten. Free that doing yoga but then the drinking a bottle of wine at night which tends to undo all their hard work so alcohol-free choices fit far more easily into that kind of lifestyle and we talked about the fact that many in our community complain. The all co free winds. Just don't taste the same and caroline raise the very interesting point that perhaps the manufacturers shouldn't be packaging cul free wine to look exactly like alcoholic quine because then our expectations may be a little different rothem expecting it to taste like wine. We could see as different kind of drink. I taught about my view that we should see alcohol. Free drinks enough set castleberry. We should see alcohol and then soft drinks and then alcohol free drinks and not expect to all free drinks to taste alcohol and finally took us through the difference between non alcoholic. 'alcohol free on deal closed so please check out. Drink nil khoza as you. They're offering a fifteen percent discount for all community. I'm going to the coupon code in on november newsletter. On on are what subgroups or you can simply email us at world without wine gmail.com and we'll send you that coupon code. Thank you so much for listening. Don't forget to subscribe share. And i'll see you next time if you've enjoyed this podcast them. Please check out the weld without wine. Subscription membership program central resource for anyone looking to change their relationship with alcohol. But you're looking to monterey for even quit. drinking completely. Are eight step program will help you succeed. We'll connect you with a warm and welcoming community. 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FIND OUT HOW THE PENSION CRISIS AFFECTS YOUR RETIREMENT & WEALTHRobert Kiyosaki featuring Ted Siedle

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FIND OUT HOW THE PENSION CRISIS AFFECTS YOUR RETIREMENT & WEALTHRobert Kiyosaki featuring Ted Siedle

"This is the rich dad radio show. The good news and bad. News about money. Here's Robert kiyosaki. Hello, hello. Robert kiyosaki Mitch radio show that good news news about money so way back in nineteen ninety nine. I started writing about this thing. Call the biggest crash in history coming and I said it would come around twenty sixteen while is about here and a half off the crash began in September of twenty eighteen and what's going to cause the crash is pensions retirement plans. And so I'm still hold to my guns said, I want you to listen to this program because we're talking about one of the biggest financial crisis hitting my generation, which is the baby boom generation and many of them as you know, don't have much to fall back on. And if there's a crash, many 4._0._1._K's, many public pensions and private pensions and things will go to hell. So that's why we have the rich dad radio show prepare you, you can make up your mind what you want to do. But. The biggest crash has already started the has to do with pensions. How long it'll take the come to fruition. Nobody knows. So a special guest today is Ted Seidel is a founder, a benchmark financial services Inc is an authority on investment management security, manners and retirement systems, benchmark is a firm that pioneered. They're merging feel of forensic investigations of the money management industry and has conducted intelligence bass occasions worldwide involving excess of one trillion dollars in assets under management, so he's looking for the crooks insider pension plans so today, you're gonna learn a lot about why our pension system is the next subprime crash. So welcome to the program. Ted. Thank you. Hey, we're talking before we got on air Virgil, saying, very interesting underlying interesting background. And we started by saying you don't have a high school diploma. So what did you tell the audience how that happened? Sure. People often ask me how I got involved in the forensic work that I do I grew up overseas in the Caribbean South America and east Africa and at eight sixteen my father disappeared in Africa, and you candy Africa. And nobody knew what had happened to him. So I came back to the United States just before my seventeenth birthday. I had not gone to high school in the United States not on to tenth eleventh or twelfth grade, and I was essentially orphan and penniless. Since my father had disappeared in east Africa. And they couldn't find his body is the state couldn't be pro his life insurance. Come is white insurance wouldn't pay his social security social security survivor benefits wouldn't pay he was missing and presumed but not legally declared dead. So fortunately on the education front. I was able within the year. I was accepted early in the college. And so I went straight into college after tenth grade without ever getting a high school diploma. So the the bad news is I never got a high school diploma. The good news is I got accepted in the college early. And he went to law school and all that. Yeah. After graduating from college, I would law school and became a lawyer after that, and it was a it was a very difficult time and. And that experience of I had to bring a lawsuit against a foreign dictator against media being the president of Uganda international law suit, hiring a team of lawyers in Washington DC. So that kind of compelled me to to consider a career law. I would not have gone for law school. I can tell you right now at my father not been murdered. And then I had to investigate what happened to him. And ultimately went back to east Africa in nineteen ninety seven to find his body and to meet the people who killed him. So that the short story of how I ended up focusing on the forensic side of the money man, in general parlance, sometimes people call you a whistle blower. But also the word is forensic you go back in and you you look into the records of things, and that's how. How you became quote, unquote, a whistle blower. What does that mean to the general public? Well, being whistle blower means that you become aware of wrongdoing. Either within your company or around you either within the company, you work around you, and you know, honestly, most people when they are made aware of illegal along doing at their employer. They keep their mouth shut. It's not it's not human nature to want to piss people off by particularly your boss by confronting people about the wrongdoing. So, you know, nine out of ten people when being made aware that there's something really bad happening at their company. We'll keep their mouth shut with the blowers that people choose to do contact forty and tell the story about wrongdoing around a whistle blower. If you're proven correct, you're the water part of. The fines or whatever that the fraudulent companies involved in today that is the case I I became a whistle blower in nineteen eighty eight. When I was in -ployed at a large mutual fund company and has director of compliance. I became where illegal activity that I reported quietly. It's what's called blowing the silent with whistle. I did not go public back. Then there was there were no financial rewards for or few for whistle blowers. After Dodd Frank the SEC and other regulators financial regulators in Washington now have vibrant Lissa bore programs, and yes, you can be received financial awards for plug whistle. And the reason I you're on the rich dad radio show with unites share a common concern because when as you're investigating many pension plans and funds, you know, fraudulent activities going on corrupt. Davis going on. Would you say that the baby boom generation may not be able to afford to retire? The something's rotten in the pension programs of America. Absolutely. You know, if you look at the baby boom generation, and if you were to do a study of what what does your average baby boomer look like, you know, are they do they have health insurance? They have are they overweight or how much they have in savings. How much they have intentions. The picture that emerges is is very bleak. I mean, I could go through those those each of those issues, you know, your many. They say seventy eight percent of all Americans are living paycheck to paycheck. My research is that the average 4._0._1._K balance is about twenty five thousand dollars, and this is for people in their fifties. And sixties the lack of health insurance is a is a is a big issue. So to the future is very bleak for most baby boomers, you know, I think it's over half of Americans who are retired. They depend on social security predominantly on social security to live, which is not a lot of money. So that the demographic issue and then in terms of pensions, I tell people simple way to understand tenses that there's there three drivers to the health of one is how much money goes into the pension system to is how the money in the pension system is managed and three. He is how much money is paid out of the pension in the form of benefits for the majority of pensions in the United States. Certainly public pension state local pensions, there is not enough money going in the money is being invested terribly. Well, performing well below any S and P five hundred index and the benefits. I don't view the benefits is generally being that high some people. Focus on that the benefits are too rich for for some people. They are but the overwhelming majority they're not moments overwhelming majority of policemen. Firemen schoolteachers are not retiring with a lot of money coming into. But certainly the mismanagement of the pension money is a big big issue and the one that's most often overlook, and that's what you're right about in some of the papers of read about you is that it's not just mismanagement. It's actually to penitent corruption by the by the fund managers, not the place office was not the firemen not the teachers, but the people that they trust their pension to the corrupt incompetent or complete have no idea what they're doing my summarizing that correctly. Yeah. I wrote an article called top ten reasons why feeling from public pension is is a smart idea. And when you look at public pensions one of the. Big problems is they are not subject to any comprehensive law. So risk the federal law that protects corporate pension for those who may not know Orissa protects your 4._0._1._K's, those a private IRA's. But if you work for the government, and you have a public pension like California's CalPERS, then there's no oversight. There's nobody watching what the so-called managers doing that. What you're saying? The Orissa does not apply. The huge loophole to Orissa is that public pension money who's not governed by Orissa. So that's a big big safeguard that the federal law that protects retirement savings does not apply to state and local pensions. The next big issue is that the boards of these pensions have no there's no requirement that the board of directors of these pensions have any training matters. So most state and local pensions, the board consists of policemen kindergarten teachers tation workers people who are not at all Malla Jubal about financial matters. And then they, you know, higher Wall Street to watch over their money. So you've got a board of of. Civil servants trying to do business with some of the craftiest sharks in the world and article I saw you wrote you say law, the more exotic investments like private equity, and then hedge funds they come to town that they wine and dine these lack of sophisticated managers. So they get free trips booze women fund and all this which influences them to buy the bankers products is that correct? Unlimited checkbook to wine and dine clients and in pursuit of what's one hundred million dollar count. So I've gone with these board members and Wall Street guys on hot air balloons, rides over the Kirke on helicopter ride over Maui to Benny hana's steakhouse in Honolulu Ruth, Chris you name it. And that is what Wall Street does they wine and dine state workers who are on these boards and show them time of their lives. And that's how they get the contract read that one of these guys one of these boards invested in beanie babies or something. Yeah. That was the Ohio bureau of worker's compensation invested in being baby. And so I think any kind of ridiculous investment, you can imagine one of the most popular is right in your your realm. Real estate. Generally pensions off of local pensions often invest in local real estate projects. So you'll have a pension. That's financed a football stadium or a convention center. Or, you know, something that's supposed to be economically targeting the locality. So ted. I mean, this is a very interesting we come back got gone to more into it. But if you wouldn't mind, I think the issue is what does the average person do especially if you are one of those pensioners in a public pension plan yet you have enough trouble. If you're in a private like, a 4._0._1._K are IRA. But if you're in a public one like Cal on a California the Rhode Island system, what can you do? So once it goes is Robert kiyosaki. This has been one of the reasons we formed the rich dad company is because we have no financial education our schools and the people. That ripped us off during the subprime mortgage era. I rip us off in the pension area. We come back, you'll find more from Ted Sidell, the founder of benchmark financial services and is at insider who's blown the whistle on somebody's corrupt and mismanaged and pension funds. You're listening to the rich dad radio show with Robert kiyosaki. Don't be like Charlie Charlie is that do it yourself or who does himself in. Do. It yourself is good for tile and grout, it is not good for asset protection. Charlie thought. He'd save a few dollars forming his LLC online with no guidance. He did it wrong when he sold the property. He lost thousands and thousands of dollars. He did himself in by trying to do it himself. 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We're talking about his revision for his book tax Rewell. Welcome tom. Thanks. So what's the taxi wealth about what was different this time of revised edition? Well. So what we did was we this is the first major tax reform. We've had in thirty years two thousand seventeen was eighty six was the last eighty six was last one back when I was in Washington DC, so many guys got wiped out because of that tax. They did they did wiped out an entire industry savings loans. This new tax is just as big. But in a very different way, it affects different industries, you know, the tax always a series of incentives and the question is always witch incentives in which ones. Apply to me. And so the Keita revising tax was what is it? What changed so much in this new tax law that weaken? Absolutely. Take advantage of me. I mean, seriously amazing sentence, for example. I mean, the bonus depreciation, for example for real estate is unbelievable. You buy a million dollar apartment. Get a three hundred thousand dollars induction or more the very first year. So if you wanna make more money and pay less taxes, like Donald Trump at myself, get Thomas, Bach, tax-free wealth. Log onto rich dad radio dot com while you listen now back to Robert sake. Welcome back Ribot cusak. Ready to show. The goodness and bad news about money. You can listen to the rich dad radio procam anytime anywhere on I tunes are Android and all of our programs are archived at rich, dad radio dot com. Sick of this program again because we're an education company don't make recommendations of sell much. And if you listen to this program again with Ted Sidell found a benchmark financial services. But more importantly, if you're in public pension, you have a relative that's an public pension this very pointed program for you. So listen to this program again, then have your friends family business associates listened to it because my prediction is this pension crisis is going to be the next subprime crisis. This one could be the very big one. And my concern is my generation the baby boomers are not prepared for what's going to come. Pose baby boomers out of time. And out of money Elise. In two thousand seven they had some time and had time time to make some money back this next crash might wipe them out all of us out. And if you're a millennial or child of a baby boomer pay, especially close attention to this and discuss it with your baby, boomer, parent, or grandparent. So once again, our guest today is Ted Seidel. He is the founder of benchmark financial services. So Ted thank you for being on this program. Can you tell us a little bit about CalPERS, which is a nation largest public pension plan CalPERS since nineteen ninety and I've known their board members. And it obviously is. The nation's largest public pension, and for many years enjoyed a reputation as being sort of the gold standard, you know, that that CalPERS was so big so professional well manage that they were always. On the cutting edge, and they were the standard other pensions. Should strive to me. But over the years over the last twenty years become increasingly obvious that they're not at all the Bill standard. They had been rocked by scandal after scandal. I wrote an article made two thousand seventeen called how to feel a lot of money from CalPERS and the first a line in the article was how hard would it be steal millions from CalPERS the nation's largest public pension with three hundred twenty billion s assets, easy, peasy the answer. So and it talked about I started by talking the article talking about how in a in two thousand fifteen meeting the board admitted they didn't even know what the fees they were paying to Wall Street money manager. So it is a. Very poorly managed pension that loses a lot of money because of. Political is Asian high called political politicisation of the investment process and other mismanagement my attorney who follows all this. He said that there were CalPERS was sued to find out how under how far underwater CalPERS was. And he said, it was one trillion dollars, can you verify that I I'm not familiar with that all I know is that the that that underperforms chronically and the fees that pays or after nominal, and and you know, billion higher that it needs to. So I kinda letter to the board. I think it was about eight years ago saying that I was aware of investment wrongdoing related to their to the pension, and I would be prepared to meet with the board discuss. It and they had no interest in meeting with me at all. I wonder why they a board member at CalPERS me to send the letter. He he walked it in and they were not interested and one of the board members said how is this letter from Sedale any different from the thousands of others. We receive. And I set my response to that was look if you're getting thousands of letters from leading experts and pension forensics that something you're doing is wrong. And that's really screwed up. Obviously, they're not getting those letters. My letter was unique my credential degree unique. There was there were very compelling reasons to meet with me, no financial downside. I wasn't asking them to pay me to meet with me. So all they could have done was all the could've happened is they could've learned. But they didn't wanna learn what I say. So that was the downside covering up. Something it certainly they certainly are covering up something good things about public pensions for your listeners is that they are public. They're minutes of meetings, their contracts and things are generally available under state public records or freedom of information act Foucault your listeners, should you know, if they have concerns right to the pension and half to see the documents most public pensions, all the ones I'm aware of today have websites and post. A lot of the documents about the pension performance reports. The information is often wrong, but you can get a lot of information from their website and from public records request. But Ted talk you say that this was this is your forte. This is your shrink, you know, you go in and take a look at it. The average person probably could not see what you see a move in on you went after the pension of Rhode Island. What did you find there as Wissel blower? There was a large award going out. I think you might be confusing things that I recently received the largest with abo- award history from the CFTC thirty million dollars forty. Thank you. Thank you well-deserved. Yeah. And then the largest award history from the SEC of forty eight million. CFTC the theater PC is like the FD, but they regulate commodity commodities. Trading commodities markets and the SEC regulates the securities markets, most mutual funds, for example, invest in commodity and stocks most mutual funds to futures options, whatever as well as investing stocks, but that was the biggest whistleblower ward in history last that I received total seventy eight million when I went to Rhode Island a few years ago actually six years ago in two thousand thirteen the new treasure vote island. It was very popular democrat said she had found a way to solve the nation's retirement price and the way to do that with to get workers to greet to accept less benefits than they imprompt. So she sees tempted to cut the benefits they went to court the court. Agreed. She could do this so workers benefits in Rhode Island were slashed. And by three percent. The cost of the cost of living adjustment was eliminate. So that was part of the story was she was going to cut benefits what she didn't tell workers and taxpayers was she was going to gamble the money and hedge fund so she ended up cutting workers benefits by three percents and paying Wall Street four percents. Hedge funds charge fees of two percent plus twenty percent of gains which amounts to about four percent. So it was a sort of fly pan by hand where all she said that like cutting workers benefits, the pension would be restored it less money would be going out. But what she didn't tell them was that by paying Wall Street. More pension would actually be worse off. And that's what happened. That's what I suppose Rhode Island in two thousand thirteen. That this was not an austerity program. This was not pension reform. This was basically taking three percents from workers to give Wall Street, folks. Well, when you think about the mindset that were done something like that. And by the way, did Wall Street payoff on that four. Did it make sense? I mean, if if they returned twenty percent, it'd be great, but you paying them four percent and you losing money. That's a whole nother story. Terribly has predicted NS at the at the time in two thousand thirteen Warren Buffett had worn pensions all over the country, not to invest in hedge funds. I don't know if your listeners now, but Warren Buffett very publicly bets a group of hedge funds million dollars that they would underperformed the stock market over the next ten years, and they were foolish enough to take that against Warren Buffett, and you can you readers to can look online. The results of the of the bet word that buffet handily won. They heads funds dramatically underperformed, the stock market and in two thousand thirteen in Rhode Island. The pension was told do not do this by investment luminaries like Warren Buffett, John Bogle and pets, Adele. But they went ahead with the gamble. Ended up losing five hundred million dollars in the first eight years. So how does that affect the pensioner in Rhode Island was well them? Well, I mean what it means is that their benefits were cut to supposedly make the pension more sustainable, but then the people right? A pension gamble for the pensions actually worse off or certainly no better off. So they took a pay cut for nothing. She benefits were cut, and they got and the pension ended up losing far more than they than the pension saved by cutting workers out of so did you hear this latest thing? I heard just recently that New Jersey because their pension is so depleted. They're now going to charge a rain tax on New Jersey's resident to my haven't heard that. But I do know that jersey has been terribly managed for decades. And I believe is is is one of the worst pensions Kentucky is I think is on the verge of bankruptcy. But New Jersey's certainly. New Jersey and Hillen away are certainly poster child for how not to run attention. And since I'm from Hawaii Hawaii doing I haven't checked on Hawaii lately there. There was an investigation. I was proposing to do in Hawaii about in that was she's fifteen years ago. You're you know, the first the first public pension to fail was five ten. So I was out giving a speech in Guam and site pan and Sipe pan attempted to go bankrupt to to not paid employee. And it's right. So Hawaii I'm not sure of where they're at today. I do know that there was an investigation. I tried to do something I was aware up there. But nobody wanted the investigation done. What is wrong with Kentucky while Kentucky? I'd say is the worst because they are only at this point. I think twelve percent funded. Jeez. So you can look up Zach number. But the point is they have twelve cents for every dollar. They promised workers. And when you get to that low level, you are basically spending. All the money. You have the money in your your basically more money going out, and the end is his within view within a few years away. So so the investment program in Kentucky is been has been terribly managed for decades and the pensions about to run out of money. There is a lawsuit being brought against the board. Or at least I think it's against all the Wall Street firms the hedge funds that that mismanage the pension. But it is of course, let's not forget Puerto Rico another public pension US tension that has run out of money. So there are. Rico's example of what happens when pensions expire side pan is an example, Kentucky's example, and then Illinois, and you jersey, many other states are Connecticut are are cases where the the amount of money pension os is just astronomically greater than the amount of money is actually in the pension. Some of the final question, then is if I'm living in Kentucky or Sipe pan or Puerto Rico, Illinois or California working for county on CalPERS. What can a person do? Let's say sixty years old you're sent to retire in a few years and your pensions about the go bus. You have any suggestions for them. What what you can do is you can because it public pensions. You can request documents get information you can attend if you can attend meeting. You can go to the website. And what I encourage people to do to do have an investigation done of the pension of your own. I crowd funded investigation of on behalf of workers in Rhode Island. We raise they raise thirty thousand dollars to have me investigate. What was going on the pension? And so now a days a in that can be you know, as little as one hundred dollars per person for last fifty dollars. In california. The pension is Celtic has so many participants that to have an independent professional expert review does would really cost. The workers less than in evening out for. So I was death. It is the crowdfunding the internet offers that possibility because as you say, they can get the documents. But unless you're an expert in the field, you're not gonna know what to make of it. Correct. I wouldn't courage people to be a thorn in the side of the system less. The people running these systems. No, people are members are concerned and are active and are going to be watching ten, you know. Thank you very much. She had more time let you come back on this program. But thank you for doing what you're doing. And especially to, you know, be a whistle. Board would be a great informat teacher on a very important crisis facing America today. So thank you again. Ted. Thank you. And we come back Clinton most popular program, which is ask lobby. You're listening to the rich dad radio show with Robert kiyosaki. Don't be like Charlie Charlie is that do it yourself or who does himself in. Do. It yourself is good for tile and grout, it is not good for asset protection. Charlie thought. He'd save a few dollars forming his LLC online with no guidance. He did it wrong when he sold the property. He lost thousands and thousands of dollars. He did himself in by trying to do it himself. Don't burn yourself us corporate direct to set up and maintain your LLC's INC's corporate direct is owned and operated by attorney and rich data advisor Garrett Sutton Garrett wrote the bestsellers loopholes of real estate and start your own corporation. He is Robert Kia Sakis attorney for asset protection. He and his team will do it. Right. Visit them at corporate direct dot com or call eight hundred six hundred one seven six zero mention rich dad and receive one hundred dollars off your formation fee. That's corporate direct dot com. Corp. Corporate direct dot com. Pays to listen. Now back to Robert kiyosaki and the rich dad radio show. Welcome back. Welcome back, Robert kiyosaki interest. The good news and bad news about pensions. I wanna thank Ted Sitel. You know, he's he's talking about the next retirement crisis. I've been concerned about this for years. That's why rich dad's prophecy how the biggest market crashes coming and the re what you'll find out why the crash is coming is the very people that brought us the crash of two thousand seven two thousand eight are the very same organizations. I'll bring us a crash of pensions is Skullman sacks Bear Stearns Lehman Brothers. They're all out of some of them out of business. But the very same problem still exists. And instead of the is so the homeowners getting ripped off this time it's going to be the pensioners ripped off. So that's what that's what the next crash is coming from. And that's why I wrote rich prophecy awhile ago. So anyway, thank Ted his website has benchmark alert dot com. Please get us articles. He's very prolific writers great writer. You'll learn a lot more. So once again at the risk radio anytime anywhere on I tunes, Android, and all our programs are archived there. Rich, dad radio dot com. We are them. So you can listen. To this program again. And after listen to those you'll hear a lot more. You learn a lot more. But most importantly got your friends family business associates, the listen to this program and discuss it because trust me, this is the this is the next crisis, and it's on its way right now. And the worst thing is baby boomers, my age oughta time out of money. So even if a young person, you're going to say, well, what happens if my father, my grandfather has no place eleve-, whereas retirement has gone. What happens if his pension is bankrupt. What do I do? Then what do I do about kicking care of his health for health? That's why this Mitch tab program is critic at an insider view that Wall Street are bubble vision of the pup or the papers will never report. So anyway, thank you, Ted Sidell. And what's the first question? Our question today Robert comes from Sofia in New York favorite book, rich, dad, poor dad. She says Robert I hear you ringing the bell on the coming pension crisis. I'm nearing retirement age. But I'm fearful that something will. Happen and somehow not going to be able to access my pension in my retirement years. Do you know what happens to people's pensions, if a company closes or files for bankruptcy? First of all, thank you for paying attention to the rich, dad radio show, and I feel for your right now, as you know, the story of my rich dad and poor dad was my poor dad lost his job at fifty. And he never recovered yet. Nothing you spent his pension trying to start a business and had nothing. So if there's a compelling reason for me to create richdad, Portland Bush had company and talk and speak is because we're facing a crisis. I don't think anybody knows how big this crisis. I mean, I don't but as estimated to be over two hundred twenty five trillion dollar problem, unfunded. That's how much money they're short. So you think the last bailout was big that last Bill only like forty billion forty trillion. This is two hundred fifty trillion. So that's why I wrote rich dad's prophecy Krista companies form, but as your question. A big question is who is your insurance who has the insurance company behind your pension? If the PBGC the public pension benefit guarantee corporation is like the FDIC the federal deposit insurance corporation, so they FDIC backs up your savings. The trouble has FDIC is bankrupt. You know, if there's a run on the Bank, there's not enough money in the FDIC to cover that two hundred fifty thousand they promised me to get my money back so Kim, and I have a problem of excess cash and we and we started, bro. But we just kept following our plan as so we have two hundred fifty thousand dollars deposits all over different banks and all that. But what if FDIC is not there as a same thing with the PBGC benefit the pension benefit guarantee corporation. It's bankrupt. Also, the good news is you're early. You can do something about it before the crash comes. So again, that's why right. That's my talk. But my whole thing here is I I think it's important that you take responsibility for your education. Your financial education because our schoolteachers no nothing either as Ted Sidell talked about many of these pensions are run by managed by school. Tissues. Firefighters and all that people who know nothing and then Wall Street comes in with the private equity hedge funds and takes advantage of uneducated public public employee's, Selena, John I wish I some young lady. I wish a quick answer for you. But I don't, but I thank you for listening to this program in a thank Ted side elegant, and once again, you can submit your questions to ask Robert rich, dad radio dot com. Thankful this in the rich down radio show.

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SerifaCast #53 Coach de fracassos para desmotivar o seu 2020

Serifacast

36:31 min | 1 year ago

SerifaCast #53 Coach de fracassos para desmotivar o seu 2020

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Fall Foraging, Critters and Borage

Plantrama

23:14 min | 1 year ago

Fall Foraging, Critters and Borage

"Are this is plant rama the sale for naria myself ellen's akos. It's the podcast where there are no stupid questions. As long as the topic is plants. Today we're gonna talk about fall foraging critters boo and bharadwaj and we're going to start with fall foraging and my suggestion in for fall foraging i look forward to every year is foraging for silver berries now. Some people call them sweet autumn olive. Some people know oh them by their botanical name which is league nece unbe lotte. I like to call them silver berries because the fruit is pink speckled with silver and the leaves are also oh silvery. Is this something that you have growing near you c. l. well unfortunately yes. This is a plant that is invasive in massachusetts. It's illegal to plant now in the state eight a massive chooses and it's everywhere in massachusetts so it's everywhere in pennsylvania. It's a very highly invasive plant and that's why it's so great great to forage for it because every little berry that you pick is a seed that doesn't fall to the ground and start another plant now. I'm not saying you're actually gonna make a dent in the population but you can feel virtuous when you're harvesting silverberg. So what do you do with the berries. I do a lot of things with the berries. I they have a wonderful tart flavor. The seat is not large so you can just you can eat them out of hand but i make fruit leather. I make jam. I make jelly really. I'm make ketchup. Am i make wine away. Where am i catch up. Yeah you know catch up didn't always mean tomato ketchup if you you look old fashioned she's like you are crazy. You can look old recipe books and you'll find recipes for mushroom. Catch up ketchup used to be just the name for a vinegar and spice based sauce and people would make ketchup out of all sorts of things yeah well and tomato base catch has a lot of sugar in it so i can see you know fruit sugar with some spices and vinegar right and you can use that catch up as marinade or just as a condiment are still berries high in vitamin c. or something. Do you have any idea about the nutritional. I do as a matter of fact the the thing that's most remarkable about silver berries are they are super super high end lycopene and lycopene is one of those antioxidants that everybody is is crazy for that you find in tomatoes and silver berries have a ton of lycopene in them so if you're interested in upping the antioxidant accident content of your diet silver berries are really good way to go and the other thing. That's nice about them. Is it's a really easy crop to harvest harvest in a short amount of time because most trees produce so much fruit that you can get a gallon in well under an hour you can just go along and collect those berries very very quickly ellen. I'm going to take you over to the community garden where we have a believe it or not second vegetable garden when you are a hardcore seal when you are here yeah my fault foraging is going into the vegetable garden to pick the kale but i ah my community garden there. It's a whole long line of this and so when you're here in september i hope that the food is going to be ripe because because we can go and pick and we can do something with some of this fruit for our event. I would love that you can go. Pick your kale and sent me loose on the on the silverberg for berry because the timing should be just about right and we will feed our guests on this invasive plant on the plant noobs segment today. I wanted to talk about because i've really gotten excited about board. In the past summer. L. and i bought a package of seeds that were edible flowers and they included the usual minister cham's which we've talked about and they've included colangelo couple other things but the most spectacular plant in there was the board it is big. It is tall. The flowers are blue blue blue and the bees have loved them so let let's talk a little bit about this plant planned why people might want to put it on their radar for next year. Personally i would plant bridge even if you couldn't eat it and you know that saying a lot for me because that's a huge acute. First of all the flowers are gorgeous color. They open one at a time. They're visible from the back with the green sepals from the front. It's just an absolutely absolutely gorgeous bloom and it's as edible or maybe even more edible for some people then the leaves are because i know that some people feel that the leaves have kind of ecorse texture but i still think when you cook with them at softens them and they're they're great to us. Yeah i have read that steaming the the stems and leaves makes them a little bit less. Well bristle first of all. They're kind of bristle definitely does the flowers are one of the most beautiful flower to put in a salad yes or as a garnish in a beverage their star-shaped and they're blue with kind of a little black on the inside and they taste a lot like cucumber and and you get that flavor from the foliage as well so if you're doing a stir fry or cooked application or if you're making a topic like a sponge copied but made with other other greens and boris is often a traditional ingredient in a court oputa. You don't want the whole thing to taste like cucumbers but it's a nice green to us in the mix wchs. Do you think it would be good to use in a pesto. I haven't tried this myself. What what about throwing some of those leaves in a pesto. I think what would you. I think it would be good would but i think you might need to steam them. I i know most pistols are made with fresh greens because the bridge leaves are a little bit tougher a little bit more fibrous. I would experiment with a small quantity in the food processor and see what kind of texture you got. I if if it's not smooth enough for you i know you like chunky pesto seattle. I do kentucky pesto really well. This plant is native to the mediterranean region and so you know that it does all right in the heat right and it and it does find in the northern parts of the us and in canada as well so you grow it as an annual and for those of you who like self seeding eating plants learn to recognize what this plant looks like as it pops up because it will self seed in areas of your garden not in an invasive way but in a oh look here's some barge kind of way. It's a delight who wouldn't be happy to see board siedle seedlings. I mean they're so pretty and so tasty and once established. They're very drought tolerant. They grow really well in santa fe and you know we don't get a lot of rain out there so that makes me very happy. These is plants can get large particularly if you're growing them in good soil or in a place that gets irrigated frequently. I grew mine in a container and what i ended up doing was putting a trellis an expandable trellis inside the container and then i tied some of the plants up some of the mile i allowed to kind of drape over the edges of the container and some of them. I tied up. We'll put pictures of that up on our website mm site in the show notes so that people can see exactly what that looks like but i i think it's a beautiful plant in containers and i would encourage people who don't don't have a big herb garden that they can grow these in a pot. Yeah i think it's really worthy of space in your container or of space in your garden and and you're gonna enjoy both the flowers and the leaves for our eat drink grow segment today. We are going to get all educational on you and we're gonna talk about leaf terms. You might want to now because sometimes we use terms like a simple or compound. Lever we say something is or paul mate and it's possible that not everybody he knows what these words mean so having the vocabulary to describe your plant is helpful not only because it may assist you in diagnosing diagnosing a plant problem but it's it's also just to be able to talk the talk with other gardeners so let's let's discuss some some vocabulary tabulated that you might need to know talking about your plants in the garden. That's great idea ellen because as you say it's useful to know just some of the basics of how to describe and those of course who are botanists or who are <hes> horticulturalist there are it can get very detailed. You know there can be several terms for the base of a leaf next to the stem that sort of thing and i think everybody needs to know all of those terms but if you are trying to convey to someone what a leaf looks like or or if you are trying to identify a plant i think you need to know some basic terms for the shape of leaves. You need to know some basic terms for what the edges of the leaf look like and you know need to know some basic terms for how the leaves are attached attached onto a stem all right. I think that's excellent and i think that's all that. Most people are going to need so so. Let's start and i don't know where you were thinking about starting but let's start with leaf shape and i would say the easiest division is the difference between a simple leaf and a compound leaf. A simple leaf shape is a leaf that is either an oval or shaped like a heart. It's not divided into you any discernible number of pieces so if you were to look at a lilac leaf for example that would be a good example of a simple leaf. It's kind of spade shaped. Maybe some people might call it heart-shaped. Basically it's a single geographic shape and that's an example sample of a simple leaf. A fern leaf is what we call a penatly compound leaf and that means that all the little leaflets arise on either side of a central stem a paul mainly compound leaf is a leaf where all the leaflets radiate from a central point in the leaf so it looks kind of like the palm of your hand now. Maple leaves are a little tricky. Some people call them paul medley compound some people call them. Paul mid loeb just be familiar with the term pin eight which means all the leaflets all the pieces come from a single stem that runs down the centre with the leaflets on either side and paul mate means the different pieces radiate out from one single central point so once we we have some basic vocabulary for the shape then we need to talk about the edges of the leaf and the edge of the leaf can be smooth breath or it can be separated or jagged or toothed and you will often hear the edges of the leafs referred to as leaf margins so if you hear somebody used the term leaf margin don't let that confuse you and as i mentioned it can be smooth or it can be separated traded and you might hear people talk about the toothed leaf margins in those those teeth can be fine very closely spaced and almost look like a fringe inge or they can be sharply jagged and widely spaced but those are the leaf margins and you need to know if they're smooth or if it's saturated okay and once we leave the edges then let's talk about the arrangement on the stem leaves are generally the two most commonly arrangements <music> are either opposite or alternate and that either means that the leaves are opposite each other on the stem or one is on one side and alternates with one on the other some implants like joe pye weed which is one of my favorite actually have leaves that grow in horrible around the stem and that means you have more than two leaves growing from a single single node on the stem so so those are the ones you need to know opposite alternate and four old now a very simple way to kind of narrow down a plant plant. You're trying to identify is to to go to google go to google google image and then type in exactly what you you see using terms that we just discussed so for instance. If you're trying to identify a tree that has heart shaped leaves with smooth edges right and say and you would type in their tree heart-shaped leaves smooth mood edges and then whether it's opposite or alternate and then you see what pictures come up when you search and match it to the sample that you're looking looking at that can be a pretty good way for identifying a plan once you know the terms to use to put into right into the search bar her and even if you're not using google images sale and i both used to work for a plant identification app and the more information that people could send us the the more likely we were to make a good identification so if somebody sent a picture of a single leaf and then they could say to us and these are arranged opposite opposite each other on the stem that was a really good way for us to start in our search so these terms can really be helpful to you if you're trying to identify a plant either because you want to know to get it out of your garden or you say who i love that plan. I want more of it. If if you are taking a picture to of a plant to send ascended into your garden center for example or to take it in on your phone to your garden center to identify a make sure that you have a clear photo of the shape of the leaf that includes the edge of the leaf and that also includes how a set of maybe you know three or four of the leaves are attached to the stem so that you have all of that information that we just talked about the shape the edges and the arrangement on the stem in focus in that picture when you take it in you know if you take in a picture of a tree from that you've taken from you know twenty feet or at sixty miles. It's an hour going past it. Your garden centers going to have a little bit harder time identifying it then if you have that infocus up-close photo of the foliage yeah so learn a few words learn a little bit of new vocabulary and it's going to be a tremendous help in the garden ellen. I don't know what year this is in terms of the chinese new year but here on cape cod this has been the year of the rabbit because the bunny population is huge this year and the chipmunk population to those two animals seem to have spent the entire winter having sat saturday and they are everywhere and people are tearing their hair out because of the population of bunnies now. What i want to talk about is the fact that we always need to remember that. When a particular population gets large first of all they're there can be reasons for this of the population getting bigger not just the sex over the winter but there are also so reasons that the population doesn't necessarily stay large yeah just just because my yard yard is littered with chipmunks. This year does not mean that it's going to continue to be littered with chipmunks. No and that's the fascinating thing or just one of the fascinating things about mother nature is how these ups and downs follow each other and how they relate to each other so so those bunnies and chipmunks that were having sex like crazy all winter and having these big litters and now all these animals are running rampant in the garden. They've got plenty to eat with this year. Let's say and then they're going to go underground or they're going to hibernate. They're going to have even more next first year but what if there isn't enough stuff to feed all of these creatures next year what's going to happen. There are many things that go into a population population of critters suddenly ballooning and then going down <hes> it can be winter weather <hes> we had a very mild winter here on the cape last winter so so that i'm sure played a role in the in the rabbit population it can be a few have abundant food sources either the year before or the spring of that particular year this particular year. We've had a lot of rain. All the plants have been growing gangbusters and so their food has been abundant for those rapids so i don't know what the acorn population was like for the chipmunks last year but it might might have been larger so whether plays a role food populate the food prevalence of food and available food plays roll and then the other thing that plays a role is the population of prejudice yeah here here on the cape unfortunately are fox population appellation is way down right now because main hit both fox and coyotes and mange's a might and so that has decimated some of our predator population and so the the population of animals else that would normally keep those chipmunks and bundy's in check. I it's not there to do their job and i think you can think of this kind of up up and down in terms of critters as you mentioned but also in terms of insects and we had a very mild winter in pennsylvania and as a result the tick population is worse than ever and if we have a really really cold winter next year. I would expect to see that population decrease somewhat. I know that also here in pennsylvania our deer population has no natural predator other than the automobile and and so that oftentimes will have the deer population balloon and then there's simply not enough food for them the following year and it's really really sad to see see these very skinny deer and that then that turns the population on a downward swing again at what we said that it's good for us to think about about this and and the various things that go into a big population is to first of all know that whether it's insects or critters nature sure tries to keep things in balance right and so there are natural checks whether it's the available food or the predators that help to moderate populations so that you don't end up with a world strickly filled with chip right so you don't need to freak out because just because you've got a ton of chipmunks or bunnies in your garden this year it doesn't necessarily mean you're going to have the same problem next year and you know our friend jessica wallace stor who is the author of many wonderful gardening books. She really put it a wonderful way. When i heard her speak one time where where she said you know we we people we want to take action right and sometimes though the best action is non action is patients and waiting and waiting for nature to bring things into balance and so just because there is a big population of something doesn't doesn't necessarily mean that we have to jump in with both traps or poisons or some other sort of control. We're we're not very good at being a patient especially when it comes to the garden because you want that immediate gratification and if something's interfering with your beautiful garden you wanna do something something right away but i think that's really good advice. Sit back and if you can let mother nature do her job are letter today came from maria and i love this letter she said as a horticulturalist who has a struggled to explain to clients how to go about beginning to diagnose plant problems. I liked the way you approached breaking down problem troubleshooting shooting last week however i wish you had mentioned county cooperative extension offices if anyone is struggling with pinning down a diagnosis they can always contact their county extension office for help. I'm purdue university alumna and i know that we had a low cost diagnostic lab open to anyone and i'm sure many other states do too and i we really appreciate that reminder from maria and earlier in the month. I think it was ellen that we did mention a cooperative extension office and it bears repeating several times i think so thanks maria for giving us a heads up on that and thanks so much for continuing to listen to plant rama. If you have a question or a comment like marinas that we can help you with on a future podcast. Please email plus plant rama at g mail dot com and until we're back in your headphones next time or in your automobile or your portfolio full listening device. 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How the Protests and Coronavirus Have Impacted Restaurants in Hong Kong

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How the Protests and Coronavirus Have Impacted Restaurants in Hong Kong

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We have a special guest here to talk about the Hong Kong dining scene and how it's been impacted by half a year of violent protests and more recently the outbreak of the corona virus in mainland China and then We're GONNA talk about the biggest food stories of the week including another delivery scandal. Believe it or not ugly baseball hats. Very Ugly Food Related Baseball Baseball. Hats people are flocking to a Mexican restaurant in memorial and many more. Well maybe not many more but a few more it. We'll see how the editing goes. Let's get into it all right Daniel. We have special guests in the studio right now. Andrew Young who writes one of my favorite newsletters Family meal and we will bring him in to talk about the protests in Hong Kong and how they've impacted the restaurant community but Andrew. We gotta talk to you about something else now too but yeah. This has become general state of dining in Hong Kong. It's too massive. Have issues issues yes. We had the We had the protests which started back in June which most people are familiar with. But I don't know if you want to small history the quick thirty second. Where did they come from? What's the deal? WHO thirty seconds? Go back to the opium wars all right so back. In February two years ago a man and his girlfriend went to Taiwan only demand came back turned out he had murdered his girlfriend. There and the Hong on Kong government could not extradite him back to Taiwan because they didn't have an extradition law So Hong Kong got the idea that they would get an extradition law. Because it was Taiwan they also wanted to include include mainland China. Hong Kong do not believe very strongly in the fairness of the mainland Chinese justice system. They have their own justice system so they decided at. That wasn't a very good idea. The government said screw you. It's still a good idea. And people took the streets and we had millions of people in the streets of Hong Kong starting in June of last year and it basically continued and got worse and worse until they were sort of pitched battles and tear gas everywhere and Yeah the town and live bullets fired at one point. There were a few live bullets which an ongoing is incredibly rare and a couple of people died not from being shot as far as our call but he became a proxy protests. Right for the larger state of politics in Hong Kong. And Yeah there's a hole under I mean. Hong Kong is due in in a few in twenty forty we seven to revert to mainland Chinese rule. And that is something that when it first came into being one thousand nine hundred ninety seven they said it'll be fifty years until so you go back to Chinese rule and everyone thought well China will be very different by then it's opening up economically and what's really happened is now being in power and China has gone full authoritarian on its own citizenry and Hong Kong is a lot of Hong. Kongers are very nervous that that's the way they're going to go. There are some pro-beijing Hongkongers. Obviously who are embraced the mainland. And think I think this is a great idea but the protesters fall in that camp of this is not so great and we're a little nervous so why don't we start with the effects that the protests had on restaurants and then we'll talk about. Yeah which we haven't mentioned but that's the second thing we're talking about. Yeah I mean it's hard to avoid talking to Andrew as he was coming in the studio. It's like hey but are you going to get to go back home to Hong Kong stuck in the US. For I don't know I'm not sure like the United flights were cancelled. It's a whole thing but so with just wait with protests. Is it true that as many as ten percent of the population have been in the streets protesting. Yeah so Hong Kong. Has I think a little over. Seven million people and there have been by estimates ciments of protesters and outside observers at least eight hundred thousand to a million people at some of these protests. So yeah it's been huge and you know. The consequence for restaurants is these protests. Go right down. Main drags in downtown Business District and obviously people aren't going out to I mean they shut down the subway lines. They shut down the taxis. He's obviously so for me and my family were like well. I guess we're not going to central tonight unless we're GONNA protest Because we could not get home like there's a chance we won't be able to get home. We got small kids and so a a lot of people are doing. That and restaurants are suffering. The other thing that's happening is As people go out to restaurants there are these pitched battles so groups of protesters will just pop random places this is and tear gas will getting fired and you'll be at a restaurant and you're like okay. This isn't great and people are just staying away and not dining out. Because they're nervous that that's going to happen and while there and there's also this thing where restaurants are identifying whether they like it or not as pro or anti protesters. There's a guide or an APP that will tell you. Yeah yeah absolutely. So there's an online forum. It's sort of a decentralized protesters no clear leadership There are a few people but mostly it's run by online forums and one of these forum started a guide a map Or an offshoot of the form start at a map that labels restaurants yellow which is protesters that sort of color that the protests have embrace or blue which will be pro police pro-mainland and depending on which side you're on. You could be a good. The food is not included included in the roundup so you could be targeted by their side. And there's a whole thing now where there's a yellow economy so people saying we're only going to dine at yellow restaurants and we should all support the restaurants Shawn's because those are true Hongkongers in Hong Kong restaurants restaurants that let put up posters of the protesters or fed the protesters. Yeah could be lots of things. They fed the protesters they. They put a protest some of them. Sell Gas Masks Aside Business they say you're all welcome And really it's more. It's almost more. They're not the blue restaurants Johnson. Sharp people who either I mean it can be as little as like. We invited a police officer in for a meal one day or You know one of the founders daughters is very like pro-mainland and has made statements against the protestors that kind of thing shake shack got wrapped up in this to right. We'll shake shack is in Hong Kong owned or managed manage or both by Maxim's catering which is the big group that runs starbucks. Also there and Is the owner's daughter. Made a bunch of statements against the protestors so starbucks a lot of starbucks had windows. Broken vandalized. All over shake shack. is they have two locations in both are in really fancy malls calls so I think that they have been sort of buffered. They're not on the street So they haven't been targeted as such and maybe people just don't know them as much as starbucks Being associated maximums but yeah. They're they're definitely they're blue. Have you heard from restaurants bars That you know that they've been marked blue and they've have you heard anyone try to like negotiate or it'd be like hey. This is an accidental blue marking and. I'm actually yellow or I'm actually neutral. No I don't know any balloons but there are on the map if you look. It's interesting there's rationale given even for why they're labeled each color and it can be as little as hearsay so like. I don't read the Cantonese but there's English losing translation underneath. And it'll say here's say I heard that I was in there one day and the owner said something about the police are okay. I hope the police to get through this or something. Yeah Yeah it's a little dangerous in that respect are are are any restaurants able to remain neutral like you see that her. I guess it's just whether or not you're on the listen a green label. I think But I'm not quite sure you could argue that because like people ask your appropriate district police and you say oh I'm just staying neutral protesters at least the hardliners. Take that as a sorry police obviously league also at the same way you know. It's hard to believe you're not picking aside. What about restaurants that Our Trendy senior restaurants that are you know candle at natural wine ish spots which I know our prominent in Hong Kong are they invested in this kind of thing to or do they. Are they able to stay out of the game. Well they I think everyone's on that that level especially ex-pat focused restaurants and expert restaurants owned by ex pats. There really mostly trying to stay out of the game I don't know of any that are aggressively aggressively. Pro Protests or aggressively pro mainland I maybe there are some And you if you like when I for this article and I talked everyone's PR people and I emailed around. I texted with restaurateurs. It was like yeah. I'm not gonNA I can't. I'M NOT GONNA make any state right like we just don't want anybody article for a couple of reasons they also don't want to have the thing. Where are you say like no one's at the party so you're like hey? I heard businesses down. And they're like I don't WanNa talk about that because they don't WanNa they don't want a business owner the restaurants half-full. Yeah Yeah they want to say come on. I'm assuming that the business is very slow right now. You're actually seeing some restaurants closing down or they closing down permanently or temporarily or what's what's happening. Well so I mean restaurant closure as you guys. Now he's always like Causality is difficult to prove but definitely during the purchase. Were there waves of restaurant. Closings And this sort of moves us into the virus a little bit because I talked to a restaurant show last night and I asked him how things are going. Now that the Now that the virus taken halls or taking the wrong word mentally taken hold of a lot of people and he said during the protests business was already off twenty percent or more and now they're looking at another thirty percent off and so basically you've got a great operator or or be located far away from the centers and things or you're going to be having a lot of problems Yeah I wanted to bring up the stat that in twenty eighteen there were four point seven million visitors to Hong Kong and it went down to three point one million in nineteen nineteen so already this is before corona virus and one million drop in Torres. Yeah it's been massive and you can tell on the streets you. I can tell that it feels a little less crowded and a lot of those places in central down by the fairies like just just places where normally there's loads of tourists rolling around and towards groups and I've talked to people who run tours groups who say the same thing and they're just constantly fielding questions like should I com. Is it safe I think initially I sent in my newsletter. I said that It was still safe like you should totally still come because a lot of the stuff is very predictable like yes you could be at a restaurant and there could be tear gas nearby But mostly you can just walk away. It's not like you're in a Like a war zone where suddenly you'RE GONNA be swept up in conflict. You have to have a little bit of street smarts but you can still very much manage the situation with the protests. Yeah yeah so now with Corona virus. What is the situation you were on a vacation or a trip here to the US and that's when it kind of all blew up so now the flights fire getting cancelled? Yeah so it's Chinese New Year so a lot of people are leaving Hong Kong already as they do in the city sort of empties out and there was just a little bit of a murmur about this Wuhan on a virus that was coming out and then over the last few weeks. Obviously it's just gone a little crazy in Wuhan and in particular and who province and then we started having cases in Hong Kong Young. We had our first fatality and Hong Kong Two or three days ago confirmed And I think now a lot of places have locked down on mainland China. I think Hong Kong is starting to get swept up in that lockdown so I think the Philippines banned flights from Hong Kong were banned people from Hong Kong. Don't quote me on that On a podcast we are. Yeah but just today. United cancelled flights to and from Hong Kong from the US American Airlines did as well although there co-chair with Cathay which is the Big Hong operator later. But Yeah I think people are like I've been talking to people about whether or not we're GONNA come back and they say it's not so much about whether the virus you're going to get the virus it's more about. Will you be trapped in Hong Kong for a long time like if you go back you might not be able to leave your car while yeah and our kids schools are canceled. The schools were already cancelled for two weeks. Now they're talking about the beginning of March and they're talking about even further So there's not much to go back to school. I mean jobs but yeah yeah so Hong Kong's got some got some issues right now. It's not some issues right now and it's terrible because it's a it's a great city and obviously has a thriving restaurant scene But it's you know you imagine the margins in restaurants already and how hard it is to operate right and you get a drop off a fifty percent right what are the respiratory saying. So they're saying I mean what steps last night. Where the first guy rummy back and just said devastating devastating one word and then he and then he filled it in? I don't know what language I'm around us here. But then he said Fuck Shit is real here. It's nuts man. You guys coming back. Yeah it's just been really bad. They told me that there. Some of them are removing tables. And they're gonNA for two reasons one they don't have the guests but also to spread tables. Goes out so that people feel more comfortable. Obviously come to our restaurant. You're not going to be sitting right next to somebody. Coughing a little ways away and I talked to a friend who went out to lunch the other day and he said this place. That usually has twenty thirty minute. Line had no line. So it's just it's a massive drop off for everybody. Great time to go to your in the restaurant in Hong Kong actually and this is pre corona. But he said I don't want to make light of any kind of of the protest situation by not only. Is it easy to get into every restaurant but they seem a lot happier to have you there. There's a like you can get really fancy. Hotels goes for like a fraction of the price. The hotel industry has been devastated and that was even during the protests. We heard a new hotel brand new beautiful hotel had eight percent occupancy. And it's I I like Few months which is like I mean they were like big splash hotel. Yeah And I was telling people if you're coming to Hong make a phone call call these guys and be like hey I'm coming like is there. You know what's the best rate you can give me on these rooms because they gotta be right. Wanted People in the door. Yeah it's interesting there. Is someone you quoted saying that you know we watch out for the tourists we we. You protect the tour as like. They're not part of this but as a tourist. That's not super comforting to you. You're not really raring to go. Yeah I think that's the hard part and especially for mainland Chinese I mean they feel very targeted rightly so by a lot of Hongkongers who are frustrated with the mainland mainland politics and And now the fact that this virus is coming from the mainland is another is another sort of strike against in the minds of many Hong Kong and mainland make up seventy percent of Hongkong Tours No I think virus aside. We'll see what happens with that. If the protests resume if you are a relatively street-smart tourists who is not nervous about getting getting stuck for a few minutes and walking up a hill to find a taxi Hong Kong is a great place to visit so actually has a lot of advantages at this time. The virus now makes all that a little bit more Yeah caveat it don't tell your mom you're going right if you're me. Yeah Dan Andrew. How can our listeners subscribe your newsletter? They should go to family. MEAL GOT SUB STACKED DOT COM. And you can read it first or just hit subscribe and you can also pay to subscribe and chip in and supported if you WANNA go. Dallas is a whopping two times a week which is very impressive. Not Lately while I'm running around here for countdown to Hong Kong children but usually we'll be right back with the biggest food stories of the week. After these messages this episode is sponsored by Rossi's rotties making style of shoes for women and girls. That are insanely steinle. 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Hat it's a palm tree etc on the back of the hats it's food item Okay and I don't know who was the curator of these food items but obviously Chicago. The yeah is not pleased with their food item. Which is deep dish pizza which people in Chicago don't actually love some people? Some people love of but I think when people assume everyone in Chicago loves the deep dish. That's not true. A Lotta chicagoans could give a shit about deep dish. I didn't actually know that people from Chicago were resentful Info of being represented by the deep dish. It's like to me it's just like obviously it's the deep dish like they're like well. It's the Chicago dog but it's like someone else has the hot dog. It's funny twitter reaction it. It should have been a Chicago Doug but that's just like that's delusional to think that New York is not more of the hot dog and then other response Johnson twitter. Those are trash a lot of responses that it should have been a Chicago dog. Italian beef is one of the responses. But I don't know how you put that on a hat and a tunnel logo come on New York should be bone broth wrote in a city where thin crust tavern style pizza is consume more than any other style this offering fails to capture Chicago. This happens to Chicago a lot when out-of-towners fumble to figure out what makes the city shine. Oh I just do you have to put up food thing on the back also deep dishes. It looks weird like like the give the people every opportunity. Can you share share. Yeah yeah everybody wants to Boston. I'm from Boston. It's a lobster roll. Great I'll take it. Yeah the problem. Is that some cities. These don't really have a food. I know some of them are a stretch. Some of them are stretch. PHILLY got a cheesecake New York Apple Philly. Has It easy because you know what all cities would be so lucky as to have food that they actually like also very clearly the representation Newark's cut an apple an apple but that's uh-huh that's not even that's not the food for the right reason that's not a representative of just yeah but I got a Taco but it's hardshell counts for some people but a lot of people are going to be angry about that. Yeah I mean at least at least whoever is getting up in arms about this is spending their time time dealing with this and not like I don't know going through our podcast history just getting now. I think who like what is really going on here. It's just someone in a room like they just did it really. That's all it is. I would wear the La One heart attack on the value. GotTa Palm Trees Really Wanted Johnnie to troll like I'm now infinitely more interested in having the deep dish one. I know that's was on you or give me another one golden state warriors. What did they get Sushi? Rolls Machi rolls all right. You know what someone out. There's gotta get it yeah. La I think that's the only the the only good one hard shells funny Chelsea me and hardshell is not not in La thing maybe it is it was like you know from their y. Why San Francisco should be the Bhutto? I shouldn't say Burrito. That's good I like that. It's like a Spanish accent or something but no but isn't that the mission Burrito isn't that the whole isn't that big thing there. I mean there are a lot of options for San Francisco. What's our fee for consulting with one of these companies? Twenty thousand dollars. Really you know you wouldn't. It would be no because it's not a conflict. I never get to consultant anything because it's a conflict unless you're a baseball hat in listen. Have you heard of the mission Burrito. There'd be like that's not going to sell hats. Maybe well Sushi Tech Growth Love McKee Roles Daniel. We talk about delivery companies a lot. Sure do on the show off the show. All the time grab hubs seamless et Cetera. And how they're not often the best partners to our friends in the restaurant industry Along those lines. There's restaurant in San Francisco caulking quickly telling the story. I was working here really late a few nights ago and I ordered varied caviar minute thing is just paying just insane amounts of tip just in cash just like. I know it's broken. That delivery guy's going to have a good run. That's a good way around on it. I think but I I ordered a like a pokey ball or something by the way. There's a good poker bowl place around here. Asked me about it. Wise Fish Rush. Okay An I go downstairs because there were like the guy here and I am looking for him. There's no one lobby. Obviously and he was in the the little all store thing the lobby cafe that we had and I found him in there and I was like. Oh Hey and he was getting a coffee and I go to the guy at the front. I was like all grabs coffee and the guy came to the thing I was like. I just happened to fast things. Like what are you doing. I was like I was going to buy your coffee. And he's like why they said well. meaning that would be my shirt. That's my curb slogan. Anyway go on okay. So there's a restaurant in San Francisco go ahead. A Michelin Star is a Thai food. Places in cal- Very nice They don't offer take out or delivery three and the chef there an owner got a call from an angry customer. WHO's like hey ordered this thing grub and it's not here I'm able to pick get up and she's like that's weird? 'cause we don't offer that at all but then she went online and there was a page where it was pointing to Qin Cao and had the address address and everything but it was actually a ghost. Restaurant hadn't launched yet with a more standard Americanized time and you have pad Thai and whatnot. No joke really. Yeah Oh it wasn't just. I thought what happened was they just Because I've heard about it a few times where they'll just put the restaurant. Someone at Grub Hummel's put the restaurant on the site and then upload the menu and then if it doesn't work like oops didn't work right right but so they were just. It was a different man. They were knocking. uh-huh okay were they going. I was weird that you had pad Thai but I figured I'd go for it. We've talked about this before but God when there's like really You know high level tie restaurants or something even like some fancy tie tasting medicine and like it's always wonder what they would do with Pat de. Yeah yeah it was like Oh cow tie for takeout. That's interesting let's see how they do try. It is from ghost host kitchen. She was a similar name. Hadn't launched at but all of her online things were connected to her. So if you would go and Google cow you can get the order now button. It was going to this weird unlike not yet. She must have been really bummed. She was pissed was like I'm GonNa Suzanne. She was like trademark infringement. Yeah not realizing that it. It was this weird. Screw up versus GRUB hub intentionally launching. Like doing this thing. I think it was more of a screw up. It's just that these companies don't vet things. They're so obsessed with getting the scale brand just getting as many restaurants on board as possible. Also there's any legal congressman king cow cow. You know if you WANNA knock off into the restroom share go ahead. What do you think was the core or of her anger? Was it that someone was expecting something from her restaurant that customers reading disappointed and someone someone was sending age Xinle screwing her over sending food her name someone pretending to be her Trading trading on her reputation I think it was little more innocent than that. But there are a lot of cases where it's not where people are getting taken advantage of. Yeah Wild West out there. If it's something we always talk about it it's like don't if you're GONNA do the food thing do for the right reasons you know. Don't be nabbing on on someone else's business don't do the ninth polk place. No no no. No one seamless players like Pete better be better partners like like started screwing over restaurant. Yeah that was the whole thing recently. Where to compete GRUB hub slash? Seamless said they were just going to start putting restaurants on their air platform whether they like it or not If they order take out like we're just GONNA put it on the platform. The interestingly about her that she doesn't order take out. So there's no reason for her to on any of these things right the only way to make yourself totally impervious to the delivery game right. But even even she's not impervious everyone. Everyone gets pulled up into this. She gets calls being like. Hey so how do you do your cowboy asking for a friend Daniel. It's very sad month for Kobe. Bryant fans Because he passed unexpectedly earlier this month when interesting and weird appeared food story. That's come out of this is fans are flocking to his favorite restaurant called Camino real in Orange County. Yeah and Yeah I get it. Because they're morning him and they wanna feel closer to him. I also just find the way that people mourned celebrities incredibly strange. Yeah especially when it's performance of you know what is it going to do eating his like Oh enchiladas Alana's sure like does it make you feel better now but I think porting him or his family really no but I think if you're you know you you kinda you don't know what you have till it's gone I mean that It's a song long obviously but I think it's true and I think people didn't know what they were losing in Kobe. What they had taken totally taken for granted? That's the biggest thing with these. Some of these deaths is like it's the people that you totally take for. Granted is like healthy functioning young members of the Community Yup So they were like people just want to get to know him on a deeper level. I guess this restaurant food you can understand the man and a little better not to be crass but how. I'm not that interested in going to living Kobe. Bryant's favourite restaurant. Because you know he's not. It was not a restaurant critic care overly care about his tastes in food but I guess it was like cool mom and Pop Mexican place. Ace there stolman. I like some silly Hollywood glitzy glamour. Yes like how is it that nobody would be flocking delay then if they called the or the Kobe corner you know Kobe corner here at the restaurant chain or something. I know that we'd typically agree on how silly this kind of thing is. But the fact that it's like a Mexican place I don't know kind of off the beaten path. I don't even know where it is. Yeah and it's not like some chain thing that you would spend the fact the fact that it's a small independent Mexican American restaurant. Yes is a little more uplift and also I mean yeah. In terms of illogical celebrity death behavior. I guess I prefer this to when people post selfies of them with the celebrity. That's my least favorite. People always do that where it's like. Oh all right P. picture of them when they like happened to meet the celebrity or like yeah saw them and got selfie with them. And it's just like what you're what does this have to do with you. Sometimes like I feel like I have you done this. No no I just the the first thing that comes to mind is like I have a funny picture of me with Pierce Brosnan. I'm just telling you. Yeah if anyone has a line on Pierce Brosnan his wellbeing let me now. I'm just kidding but my first thought was like are all these people just being like. Hey Mom can you like dig through my drawer and find me that picture of me and Kobe from like wherever. And she's like why like he posted on Instagram. But I do feel like I see a lot of chefs with like when Robuchon died Being like Mike of you know our Ip to one of the greatest it was so it was such an honor to cook for you last fall or whatever and it's like them doing like the power pose Cher behind the line. I don't find that as aggressive. Or as as annoying as when if they had an actual moment or share the same. It's okay here's is what it is in the same line of work. Yeah I think it's a okay. All Right Dan seal of approval all right go for it but he just like eh peers. You don't have a relationship with Pierce. Oh my God I mean when Notre Dame was burning and it was like all the people putting up their picture sure of them like at Notre yes like relations you hit the tripadvisor number one spot. I mean what same thing You you in Pierce No. But it's really like it's also like we've talked about this. Do you think Delaney Wally comments on the celebrities instagram. Like Oh God your example Louis Anthony. Bourdain is just people after his death being. Well Miss you brother Miss you brother. But here's what people I don't know what the Hell is is going on because I I clearly remember looking at board. I mean I'm just like is this terrible. I'm what am I doing digging through his instrument. Sure lying looking. Look at all these crazy people next picture next picture. But it's like people wouldn't even go to the first picture Oh my I know. My favorite was His most the picture sure he posted before he died was like Some plate of steak or something and people it was like a a medium rare. I think it was his the most recent or whatever but it was nice. You know Kinda bloody big piece of meat on a plate I should just check this but it's fine And people are like God kind of looks like a heart Jesus and like people would not just go to the first picture. They'd go all the way back to the tenth or whatever to try to be like a more prominent R I p like R I p like really loved no reservations episode like season three episode to like really changed my life We'll miss you bro. But I mean people do it on other. I think. Actually this doesn't happen anymore because well maybe it does I. I'm not on facebook very much but I've seen people I've seen it where someone has died and then people write on their wall being like. I can't believe fourth grade Spanish class together like this is tough. Oh On facebook page on facebook and it's just like but having he said that I mean there's no reason to leave rocks on someone's grave like it's all share. It's all none of it makes it not make sense. I mean I guess the idea of leaving the comment on Instagram or facebook wall or whatever whatever is he loved ones to see that they were loved. Yeah maybe generous way to look at it. No I mean you're trying to posthumously Up Your relationship because you know you're trying to prove how close you are to this person who is now gone and you can do that because it's very easy when someone is like yeah. He was top ten friend of mine. You know I just think the the so maybe it's really I would would like to give a shit. Some people have become so much closer to ordain after he died and I think that's really commendable. Oh Yeah Yeah. He was the last person I think you guys get. I mean listen I love. It isn't gonNA get edited out. No I mean listen I just want to go back to the to the F- to the restaurant I actually I now. Now I've clearly revealed myself offers a dark agent of the devil and trying to take away anyone's grieving methods but But I actually do see some merit in going to the restaurant because unless you're like just posting aggressively like enquiries favorite restaurant woo-hoo because it is through. Hey let me tell you something about restaurants ak you can an restaurants tell you something about what the chef loves but restaurants also tell you a lot about Someone's favourite mom-and-pop shop tells you a lot about what the diner finds is to be comforting and I actually think it is a fascinating window. I don't really care like I'm not trying to go there. I- sooner check out an eater heat map and see what was popping in that that area sure but I I would like to. I would be closer to the person you were grieving. Yeah I think the trick is as long as you don't post about it on social media. Can you go eat Kobe's enchiladas feel close to Kobe and then not tell any thank you so much for listening listening. If you have any feedback or any questions please email us at digested eater. Dot Com please rate and review us. PODCAST APP of your choice and subscribe hype. If you aren't subscribed already one more ask please tall. Yeah Tele Fran. 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The Best Places to Eat in 2020

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The Best Places to Eat in 2020

"This episode is brought to you by Dell X. P. S. thirteen two and one laptop. This is the laptop for all your streaming binging holiday movie watching. It needs the four K.. Plus infinity edge display. Del Cinema. Color provides crisp vivid visuals from the deepest blacks to the most dazzling brights and the DEL cinema. Sound he sickly. It'll knock your socks off the newly remastered X. P. S. thirteen to one from Dell With del cinema color sound the end stream powered by ten John Intel core processors. It offers unparalleled performance. Find out more at eight hundred buy Dell from the newsroom eater. I'm Daniel Janie and this is digest all things food and dining. You know we've really started to police through this thing now. It's fine I I feel like no matter. What when read a thing over and over again like you're GonNa hate I love it? You love it okay. With a little help from the biggest names in the world the food and the journalists theorist either we try to understand. What's happening right now in kitchens restaurants and dining rooms around the world today on the show? We are talking about where you should be traveling this year. Yeah we are the hottest destinations with Lesley suter. We'd Leslie our travel editor What he's done is compiled a list of cities regions? That are a little bit off the beaten food path kind of or at least often commerce. There's a reason why each one is chosen. Okay so some MM. Maybe you've never heard of this location. Some you have heard like the East village but there's a new reason for you to be go off the beaten path. East village exactly. Yeah so oh there you probably know these places but we have an argument as to why you should be going to them right now. Yeah and then. Then we're GonNa talk about the big stories it's the week including Bagel Gate Eagle Milkman. McDonald's in England. Okay it's wild. It's a wild. Yeah we're in a small little room we're just getting an anxious and you'll hear it all. Okay Okay Okay Lesley suter you have been thinking a lot about where we should be eating in twenty twenty. In fact you're together entire guide to it. Yes so I know I. I'm just wondering how you put this list together. How you narrow it down so this was unique for us because we have done a lot of dedicated city? You guys were we pick a city which has its own whole like crazy methodology that I could get into at some point but we pick one city and we go to town on it. This was something different. We really wanted to like a poll figure out you know nineteen cities around the world. That right now are for whatever reason the best they've ever been like these are the places that in two thousand twenty. If you want to be experiencing city at its best foodwise like these are the spots and yeah. How do you figure that out because I live in one place and eaters based in the United added states? Luckily we have over. The years assembled a really amazing team of experts Authorities authorities writers photographers and people who are just generally in tune with the food scene in all over the world. These are the people that I work with. Weekly to put together are amazing. That's to where to eat all over all over the globe. So so you know. I think I started by sending out a note to every single person which I think at some point was it was like sixty nine sixty nine people all over the world and ask them to think about the places that they're most excited to eat not necessarily to root for their hometown own but to like these are people who also travel a lot who know a lot and have a good sense of contacts so where what's exciting them. Play seems great. I asked them to write me a sales pitch for it and and then From there we kind of did our own independent research we dug into our own travel journals to come up with places that we thought like. Listen if you airfares expensive anthony like if you're going to fly somewhere in twenty twenty and you wanna eat really well these are your back so give us a couple of highlights what what are some of the places on the list so one of which which actually sort of stemmed off of our guide to Melbourne that we just did is Hobart which is the main city on the island of Tasmania off of Australia. Australia and media just sounds cool. It's very far. It's like the closest to Antarctica that you're GonNa get and it is that it's also oh not far from Melbourne. It's like an hour or some flight since Melbourne is so buzzy. Hobart historically has been considered the sleepy port town. And what happened is is. This museum opened their this art museum. That is super renowned. It's called the at Museum of old and new art. Mona the Museum of mold old new artists Super Quirky Museum. That this really rich guy opened in Hobart and It's really wild and awesome. It's drawn this whole new world of creatives They have these insane music festivals roles including this one called Dark Mojo that happens at the winter solstice Artika and it's all like Gothic and awesome so anyway along with all of this cool art and creativity usually really comes food so that combined with kind of inexpensive real estate and chefs in Melbourne. Who are pretty close has led to this influx of awesome restaurants that are opening opening their so in keeping with Australian general? These are usually really multicultural. You've got foods from all over the world. You have chess from all of Australia. Coming in and opening really great restaurants There's really great farmland so the ingredients great and who doesn't WANNA say. They went to Tasmania to eat that. What about in the US US MILWAUKEE? Walkie Milwaukee is gearing up to sort of on the center stage for the Democratic National Convention for Twenty Twenty And with that they are having a lot of really great attention with the with. The spotlight comes with that also. Comes people concentrating more on their food. It's still this is still the mid west rest so this is still a meat. Focus town but you're also getting sort of a lot of like Austin food truck parks that are there There's still all of us. Amazing brewery scene and with that has come sort of a gastro pub food. That's Kinda better than it's ever been here before. There's also some like James Beard worthy fine dining restaurants. But you're still getting. This is still Wisconsin. So you're going to get cheese Kurds and all of that with it. So it's just a butter burgers exactly exactly so at this point. It's just one of those cities. It's this midwestern sort of blue collar city. That is kind of having its moment. And how do you deal with a city like New New York or Tokyo so we put together a list like this right like you wanted these pointing out surprising new places but at some point you have to acknowledge cities in the world. That maybe you've always thought of as being food focused. That are just even better than ever before so for big cities like that. We focused on New York for instance we focus on a neighborhood we focus on. New York's East village now. I live in Los Angeles But we have a New York. Serena died the editor of New York. Gave Me Areso good argument about why the East village right now is pretty much the best food hood in the world so not just. This is not New York as a whole east village edge. If you WANNA eat in one neighborhood might call this the best food neighborhood in on the entire planet right now and can you explain why there's incredible it's one of the most dynamic neighborhoods is in New York. There's incredible cuisines from throughout Asia and Southeast Asia. Right now that's fair. You're going to get Japanese Chinese Korean Ukrainian Indian Vietnamese Filipino Keno. They're getting a lot of amazing of regional Chinese foods like from Yunan that are opening their but also like because the prices generally reasonable creativity is allowed to flourish. There zonings allowed for that as well. So you're able to have these great small independent restaurants that feel other place but also very much of another place and all kind of crammed together in this one cool neighborhood of New York. That's my big theory about the East village edge that I think is true. Is that because of zoning. There's not a ton of huge gross development in the East village. It maintains its character. And it means that there's a ton of super tiny tiny store fronts And they mean that you bring in new operators who often don't have the kind the money or the kind of cloud that would go into a big expensive development not only that but I think that the smaller the place up a sort of a creative type of restaurant sure to that needs to figure got away to use that space and make money off it and that kind of those kind of challenges overcoming them often yield some pretty cool unique stuff. Let's see I love that story about the the museum opening in Tasmania. Are there other interesting little pockets that you've seen pop up because of For for a strange reason like that or well like so. So here's a a random woman right. So Pristina Kosovo Kozovo is like the youngest nation in Europe Eastern Europe. It's like I gained independence eleven years ago so Cosa Volvo coined the new term. It's But it is just just you know at the beginning stages of any movement when things are just really exciting and everyone's just trying to figure out what the heck they're doing cove is that right now but in like a really really fun way Hey You know the the Balkan wars of the ninety s spurred kind of an image problem for a long time so they're really trying to get over that by drawing tour. This is a beautiful country. It's the surrounding surrounding countries. Right now are actually Some of the new hot travel destinations In the world so that in Kosovo has the same Geography civil climate. Hi Matt has an incredible farmland ingredients and also the heritage that sort of an influence of all of its neighbors that its drawing on so in that way. It's great and it's at that moment we're like no one's going there yet and the chefs are really in that moment where they're trying to establish identity and I've found that any time that that's your mission Some some really great stuff in some really experimental stuff happens so what kind of food are using. So you're seeing stuff that draws on eastern European heritage so. You're a lot of the same reasons everyone's really into Georgia right now. all of those big dumplings and things like that. That's part of Kosovo cuisine. You're seeing a lot of classics levers and local ingredients mixed together. You're seeing that sort of looking inward at. Its historical cuisine off the Ottoman Empire though has a lot of Influence there so you're also seeing some Middle Eastern flavors flavors that are great focus on grilled meats on pickles. School is known the list first of all we. There's no list of restaurants Dan. This is the list of cities not on the list. No but you know what is on the list. Is Mama Sweden which is forty minute. Train ride over a very very picturesque bridge from Denmark into Sweden. So it's forty minutes from Copenhagen your forty minutes from the capital and it is very much. It's getting sort of the trickle effect of Copenhagen because it's The a lot of the people actually working Copenhagen live in The restaurant workers and chef actually lived there because it's less expensive expensive might slightly. I think maybe Mama the Brooklyn Copenhagen but yeah it's And but it also has its own whole feel. It's very like painfully cute and charming. And there's like cute architecture the amazing natural wine everywhere and It's a really good it's great you know Copenhagen's great but like take that train ride Goma with when you put together a list like this like what Steps do you take to avoid being one of those lists that we see all the time which are just like the thirty best places to eat in the world and it just seems like it may not be that much just like they're just like brushstrokes not really saying anything and just being like a list for the sake of being alive. How do you convey the authority? Well the first of all. Oh yeah we turn to locals To tell us I I would love to say that. I've been to all of those cities on this list. I have not so you know going along with eater travels whole ethos. The locals know better so we reached out to people in these regions to tell us. Step one argument while there's actually not that many that are where to eat. There are a lot of where to go and a lot. The reasons to go. But if food is your jam and we actually have in our sort of introduction does package a survey that we site that says that it's been proven now for for modern travelers in the year. Two Thousand Twenty food is now our most prized priority. Like the most important thing that we plan and think about ahead even lodging When we travel so oh so focusing list on travel but also around the idea of food is in itself still fairly unique? Once we pick the cities we reached out to people who live there who yeah no it who are experts in that area and asked them to put together a list of the essential restaurants. You need to hit once. They're so not only. Are we just telling you. Hey the city's great. You should eat there. We didn't tell you exactly where to even give you a map to do so so I think that's pretty good. And then what are you going to do for twenty twenty one. We're going to come up with the best places to eat in the world in two thousand twenty one. I have a feeling I mean. Is this list you saw the long lists. I think we had at some point. It was like one hundred thirteen cities that we were like already already. Pretty enthused about whittling down to nineteen was actually really hard so I think the good news here. The upshot is a Food around the world is generally great right now. I think there's a lot of interested in it. I think tourism is growing as a whole anyway. I think everybody's sort of looking inward to their own cuisines and and doing all sorts of new exciting things with them so it's a really good time to travel and eat right now so if you were to make the best places this is to eat in the Milky Way the earth would be one of the places you would suggest you know. I haven't really checked out even the rest of the solar system. You don't have a lot of locals yet that we can can really count on for expertise but who even knows what that honestly thank you for saving me on. That job was really effort. He didn't have to and you could just let it die now. It might have to stay in this. This is just because of the support of all the cities and places on your list. Which one would you personally want to go to next year if you got like a week vacation by yourself with no kids? ooh I think if no kids week vacation at the tough wife Navy between Georgetown Malaysia. which my the expert there who is very in the know in that review and says that it is hands down the best place to eat and all South East Asia and that kind of food is my thing so I am very into Georgetown? I jet there in a second but also then I'd probably just want to put my up. Goes Fancy so I had to Marseille which is has been sort of like the Like more blue collar Port town of the south of France but sort of the North African influence is there and the fact that again real estate is pretty cheap and the coastal food is good. It has brought up at your peril chefs to open hip restaurants. There this leslie you are. Thank you for doing all the hard work and putting this together so that we can dream about where we should be dining and vacationing in two thousand twenty. Yeah and we just hope that some. If you're a listener just you you know. pull up the pull up the list and just go somewhere and then leave us. Voice note says until you tell us how it was love it all right thank you leslie because we'll be right back with the biggest stories of the week. The holidays are behind us and so are all the heavy meals and concentrating that goes with them drinking to celebrate drinking ranking to relax drinking to tolerate your family. It's a lot so if you're looking for something to drink when you're not drinking check out seed lip see look is the world's first non distilled alcohol all spirit. It has no sugar and calories and comes. In three complex and balanced varieties got spice. 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It wasn't a it wasn't a breaking story story just dropped. There are a lot of funny things about it. So basically the story is there's a Milkman. In New York who delivers milk the old fashioned way. So so not that big a deal. I feel like these stories pop up every once in a while that angle from the New York Post is that he's hot. Okay let me say for listeners. He's he's not that hot. Well I mean it's all subjective okay. He's a yeah he's a he's a good looking man but not like supermodel. Yeah if you WANNA know what Amanda thinks is not that hot talk Milkman. Yeah he's hot enough to I guess called thought enough to curdle. He's not what you would expect in your Milkman. No so he looks a little bit like a male stripper. Yeah I guess just act like well trimmed dark yeah What's great about? The story is just the New York Post. Take on it. Yeah like no one could do it the way they can do it. New York Post notorious for what kind of takes just puns and being cheesy and Dan just really going for it. All in like we are all in on this story So the the lead is his first of all the headline meet the hot milkman driving. NYC ladies to drink milk. That lead is is Frankie. Kosta is milking it. Okay uh-huh And then let's see a lot of fun facts quote from Frank. I capitalize on my looks to get clients. Oh Okay done customers. Can't wait for the shaggy-haired haired delivery guy to get. Their law tastes steaming. He's such a hunk longtime customer. Leah's Shire of Upper West side tells the post let's see what else we have Another sentence the utterly U. D. D. E. R. Lee. One time demanding. All nighters can take a toll especially when his clients expect him to stick around and chat in the morning. God so what do you really think about this story are you just. You're just happy that they went all in on it your Milkman. I don't care about him. I like the idea of the story. And everyone's while the New York Post drops a story like this where where they're just super silly. They did a whole video which I envied because you know I'm sure you were doing something very important but the near post team went out to this guy's is farm went on deliveries with him. All the hot women he delivered the middle to had like blowouts in full makeup on Frank and women love my milk. He's not the typical Milkman I. He's very cute and he's a hunk. Our you who doesn't Wanna how he was actually on a Bravo show once you dated one of the real housewives and they have a clip of him sounding so dumb like the dumbest is only club was about how much he loves Mexican. Bailey playing breakfasts Mexican plus it. It was always goals for us. Can he be charging five times. The milk is worth a single gallon. Costs Eight dollars okay. And they're buying fifty thousand gallons every time and some families will spill up to one hundred dollars per week on. The single heard grass-fed low temperature. Pasteurized milk. Single heard single her Daniel Daniel. I love the behind the scenes of all these women just pouring the milk down the drain. The women are hot too. They don't need they don't need does simple fund story to relieve you of world stress. Yes he also said people are in his. DM's all the time being supernatural capitalizing. Living on your looks I don't mean is something to look down upon. Lean into your hot. Who doesn't here okay? We have verified instagram. And how doc just looking on our instagram deums is crazy on a daily basis. We've had some absurd requests from guys and girls you're seeing my DM's but why are you buying continued to live three I usually don't but I love milk your milk I wanNA drink. I mean people were gross Anyway you know what I'm happy about this guy can i. I'm kind of happy. He's not like I don't know if he was brilliant sounding in all these things and he were yeah I mean. I don't want to make that. If he were brilliant sounding would he do this video. Maybe it's all a big. It's just a big ploy. For what exposure I I mean just yeah the Milkman. You know and like you know what this guy can do now is endorsed a serial. No no no and Yeah he can't no. It's like a one day story Paul Baku's May he rest in peace. I don't even know why I'm going to call them the most influential Shafir. Whatever because there's no point in making platitudes anymore? He was a big deal though their influence op five. Big Deals of all time You know largest credited with a lot of the kind of French new wave and the bringing in the ideas of Koseki the tasting menu and the cleaner tasting menu and not just having like liver sauce butterfat restaurants anyway his namesake three Michelin Star Restaurant which had three Michelin Stars for something like fifty plus years in France. Big News the whole time. Yeah well longest standing ending three-star restaurant lost two star. Now it's a two star. Restaurant will hate to see it do you. I mean I don't really. It had no skin in this game. The only thing that listen I mean it sucks for him. They actually took the third star off his gravestone. Sacramento he's dead. I was just kidding. Yeah no it sucks but you know what it it makes you realize that they don't mission is a cold heartless beast which actually okay I think gives them a little bit of credibility. They don't sure it's GonNa let you keep your star even if you die. Yeah even actually are the quintessential you know. Say What you want about the man. That was the quintessential three-star restaurant. Yeah I mean probably. Wasn't that involved in the last few years anyway so no probably probably servers running in was so overcome with grief. Yeah they just couldn't get their shit together yeah That's a really decided to go in for the kill I was at a fine New York. Your crestone shutting a video when this news came out a fantastic French chef looked up at me when he got the news through the New York Times. I was scared he goes. Did you hear what happened. Wow really yeah and I thought like terrorist attack. I thought he got like a push notification. He he's just looking at chefs settings only p wells review at alert pub wine tariffs and. Have you heard the news. This is why I'm not a critic and could never be a critic and all my heart sunk for the team running that restaurant because they let daddy down and I found it a lot recently. Some of these chefs are so innovative in their time MHM and their restaurants flourish on innovation. And then you know it happens to everyone. Eventually you get to an age where you stop innovating uh-huh because any efforts you make to innovate are still like kind of innovating in the way speculation right no. It is cold hard factually. You haven't been there less innovative than it was five years. I'm saying they're doing the same dishes. you you know. And we're in a new room today and our faces are closer than the yard and I just. I just felt that you were choice for a second and and I just saw the live as they are going to have in this restaurant coming out swinging for next year because like is really seven stages of grief when you lose the the star one like they probably went home that day. No one was talking devastation. than anger than Fuck Michelin. And then guys. This is Dr Chance to reinvent ourselves and then you know really a huge wave of energy and now they're just. That's a restaurant I would want to go. You know. That's those are the restaurants you want ahead. I guess John George didn't earn his bag. Put their fighting sure. Yeah okay okay. All right Next England's only county without a McDonald's is finally about to get one. Yeah that's kind of I mean I just think that the way McDonalds lobbies to get itself into places is interesting. It kinda comes through in this in this piece a little bit. So the Rutland City Council office so so there was a major fighting infighting in the city a lot out of a lot of opinions going both ways. Some people were very supportive of McDonald's for reasons of Giving employment option to a lot of the city's youth and Friendlies safe place. For the city's youth to congregate share and of Innovation Very English fashion. It seems that the number one N- well obviously people were like. Why do we need this? We have a lot of independent food stores here. We don't need something then. It's just pure junk food but one of the most common reasons reasons that people were against it. Graham show who lives in Oakham also oppose the opening of McDonald's writing that litter from such outlets was disgraceful because people all throw the leftover packaging out of their cars Yeah I mean you can do that with anything though but I guess you don't want it. The second is McDonald's I mean. It's more disgraceful disgraceful. I guess very grateful Maybe because the idea is that people that the drive through yeah they don't have a lot of drive-thrus so you're eating in your car. You get these car. Throw it out the window when you're done Odi thrown out the window. Yeah so the largest number objections received was about litter resulting in a commitment by the applicant to provide new waste bins close to where the restaurant has been proposed and to carrying out no fewer then. Three litter picks each day collecting all litter found within one hundred meters of the site. Not Every day win in a little easily on that one. That's what I think. Yeah I just think you know all right here. Here's a a a a a deeper take. It's not from from from our perspective being the last county without a McDonalds. A super fricking cool. You know but it is not up to the county to be there being listened. Guys like Doc. Were the last one without a McDonald's like we should really hold strong on that like we. We don't I mean we've created this grand majestic story out of this township US I have and I don't think it's their job to to hold strong as is all I'm saying like we don't they don't have to be the heroes heroes because they're not going to be their own heroes. They're just heroes and they're not anymore but they were. Do you have any thoughts on this matter. Besides just shame. Shame for you know. I mean it's kind of it's kind of sad that they were the holdouts and they gave in. I think there's something to be said for holding out against the stuff in a more interesting McDonald's story gray there's a leaked email last week from franchisees to corporate about how pissed they were about the chicken sandwich situation. Yeah they're mad. When you sign up for a McDonald's franchise when you're like I wanna be a McDonald's Franchisee you're signing up to the greatest powerhouse in in in American food and may food history biggest food brands in the universe? There's your signing up for a safe bet it's like people who invest in in laundromats you know like. You don't invest in a laundromat because you want an exciting business opportunity opportunity. That's a blue chip stock and to see McDonald's I don't know if this really falls on us. Not Keep keep their king status at least as the standard you now. Fast Food Restaurant must be frustrating. You know that like well the MDC that home washing machines were they wrote. We need to stay focused on coming up with a capital title see chicken capital S. Sandwich. Our customers are going to crave said. Can the kids coming home from school. Being like you know the Feldman's Oldman's ONA Popeye's franchise and they're so happy because they have that Fund Chicken Sandwich Dad. Why don't you guys have a cool chicken sandwich? They say we have been raised to hold up. The arches coaches a capitalized. And do it in the best light. We aren't always going to get it right but we get it right and much more than we get it wrong. That's what I'm saying. The matter and we have the truth on our side. What yeah where did that? Come from the email. But they don't have the truth on their side. What does that even mean? I didn't say that Eh. This part of the e mail was about how the Franchisees were feeling about the other news at McDonald's bow former employees facing racial discrimination discrimination. Oh all right you just slotted that one in there just at the end. Yep Yep Yep yeah. I mean a lot allowed to take him. Yeah I I understand. Understand the relevance of the truth on their side more so I was really hoping they were. You know getting really dramatic about the chicken sandwich. I mean it's dramatic in general but they're being dramatic but a lot of things I mean I get it. Yeah that's what I'm saying like I've times McDonald's. Corporate headquarters is definitely bigger. You know uh-huh than all the other ones what's going on guys like you get it together get it together. Hashtag Bagel Gate Bagel Gate. Okay once again. A politician As in trouble for their food choices and once again it's the Blasio once again. It's De Blasio. Yeah Yeah what did you get in trouble for less. I'm eating pizza with a fork. Org Any pizza with a fork Declaring Dofara his favorite pizza the best pizza restaurant in Brooklyn and saying that he would save them But that's that's more yeah okay It's just like food related things. I don't think he's over three at this point. Maybe he's got all kinds of good takes you just don't you only pads from the right odd one. The Echo Chamber only popularizes negativity. That's the one we live in. Here's the thing he has his Bagel shop. Happy loves in Park Slope. He tweeted that it's like the best Bagel shop loves. It and his favorite Bagel order was holy extra cream cheese. Toasted New Yorkers notoriously. Do not toast their fresh bagels. It's more than that restaurant. The BAGEL shop itself. Oh and the BAGEL legal shop won't do it. They don't toast bagels. So there's a lot wrong with this statement The initial uproar was about the fact. That New Yorkers don't toast bagels right but the bigger to me the bigger screw as was he's actual inaccuracy at like. It's Yeah I go to Russ and daughters all all the time. I love their niche. Or whatever and it's was like how dare you don't make niche or something like that. He's just he's he's trying to Man of the people or like or talk about you know getting the food conversation. And that's a fumble like he doesn't know the place well enough to make a claim like this. I mean maybe he's getting mixed up in his head or maybe he buys the BAGELS. Toast them at home but like yeah. Actually I'm wondering. Could he make that mistake. It's like when you're talking about a move and people like oh you. Have you seen this movie or whatever and you're like and some I mean I've done this all the time when you just say yes but this is unprompted. Oh yeah this is an unforced. Okay and what's your what's your Bagel order. What's your favorite bagel place? And he just had to like make it up on the slot he just tweeted it. Unprompted wonder if like there was some sort of like miscommunication and mutton slipped. Yeah he was trying to write. Something else toasted autocraft. Maybe he was trying to say untested. Because I'm a real New Yorker what's funny to me is he just deleted the tweet and rewrote it as if it hadn't happened. Yeah you gotTA address it keep it up for the record we all know you wrote it. And then say oops Auto corrected from untested to tested. I obviously wouldn't tell us my big so you wouldn't know no I don't care. I love Tosa Bagels unto Bagels. Who Cares I mean? People are error than the error is the big part art than he's eating around. I don't care. People eat their food yet. New Yorkers needs chill with saying don't toast BAGELS 'cause like if people want to their bagels. Toaster precompiling cares you. You see your steaks and like the best people who pull the middle out but even that whatever you do you oh you know you don't want to eat all that interior delicious bagel bread. Yeah fine but also like if a if I if I went to a Sushi restaurant and some guy was just like extra. Soy sauce sauce like that would different is it. Yeah but you know. We're talking about the height of artisanal craftsmanship here. I don't know if it's different and I think we just picked we we we just pick our spots and and and and we need to not we need to. We need to allow everyone to enjoy exactly what they want. But maybe not because like which way are you signing. Haven't haven't I don't know. Yeah if you let them chose their bagels and let them have their sources to you said different. which were you convinced me a man that we had A? We had a long weekend this weekend. Martin Luther King Day and On the Monday you you know you weren't taking the day off spell. It was only published a rumor. Big Old fat rumor. Yeah on the website you were reported here dot com. Yeah which is You know maybe maybe the people know maybe they don't One of your favorite things. My favorite thing to do hear a rumor start to you know credit college people all bunch of people make sure it's credible Burma's real published that just shows on the website The nomad Restaurant so I guess I should back up Daniel Daniel We'll GADARA famed restaurant. Do Oh we talked about on this before. They had this big divorce over the summer. So they're restaurant portfolio William included eleven madison park all the nomad restaurants in Vegas Los Angeles New York. Soon to be London they had a big place coming up in London. Culprit Davies They they had a bunch of other restaurants fronts. coming up over the next year or two. They split up leaving Daniel home with all the restaurants and now the people who own the nomad are splitting up with him so he if this all goes through will walk away with just having. EMP His fine dining restaurant in London called Brick Davies. And the fast casual. Hello was supposed to be a chain but is in made nice interesting in that the nomad properties were kind of like the like like amp. Obviously is the darling of the Of the group but the nomad properties seemed to be the easiest. The ones that were getting the the major expansion. Yeah they were going everywhere. Have a lot of buzz a lot of people. They're part of hotels so it's just a big big big business. Yeah and he was going from having this giant restaurant group to having a pretty small fine dining focused portfolio. Yeah in in less than a year. So what does this tell you about has operations. My sense was that the nomad and properties were more of wills focus and Daniels even though it was the partnership right and without will involved perhaps the nomad people. Aw weren't as on board and I think with the expansion to la which has been struggling in Vegas. They realized that people don't actually go to the restaurants for Daniel. They don't need a name like him. They could just get somebody who can run the show. Yeah they need operators operators. They don't need a guy. Hey who's going. All around the world trying to make a name for himself as a chef and like right and whatever he does catches. Tell you though that like all these people getting bought brought out. I don't want to presume how they feel about it. But there's there's kind of something nice about just getting bought out getting out of the game getting out of the game and then just you know doing something for like ten years. Growing a bit of a mini empire getting bought out and refining and being given the opportunity both of them being given the opportunity to hone in on. Exactly what it is that they want to do I mean unless that's just build the biggest restaurant group ever and then I guess it kind of sucks true true true but I there something like cozy about that but yeah you know. Wake up to get a nice chunk of change. Yeah you should be Daniel Holmes therapists and tell them that do. Do you think you think he got a nice payout from the nomad. I mean it's not done yet. We're talking real money here right. He'll get some good money out of it. Yeah you know what and then he can go back act to But I don't think it was his first first choice right above arrangements. No the dream of the restaurants were these days is to be associated associated with large hotel groups that can cover your massive overhead and interchange you credibility to them. Yeah they get your financial risk so to the real dream is and not have to cook on the line every night getting has that dream as I. Actually your money. Yeah Pete Wells wrote an opinion piece. this week about how one of the things he's often people are often times restaurant. Critic context is important and it podcast about how one of the things he is constantly. bothered by or one of the things. His his readership is constantly bothered. Him about is is is noise level and he And they are always telling him to include noise level descriptions chair or maybe get a decibel meter lifetime seats in Washington. Which is I? Oh I didn't even know that actually And it's you know what it's not something he wants to do. I think he finds it to be an annoying request And he wrote you know kind of an elegant Thoughtful Essay I guess on why Knows level in restaurants or human. The noise is actually part of the art and restaurants or one of the last bastions of. He's like you know you have noise canceling headphones. We have all these things like. We're always controlling controlling. What goes in our ears and in a restaurant you know that is people coming together over food and you're hearing it and there's nothing you can do about it and it's it's part of the experience and it's a benefit not detraction I mean. I think this is a classic Pete. Wells like roller coaster take control piece translates. Yeah Yeah Yeah exactly ice cream. Sundaes aren't good. It was two thousand words. I just read it. Yeah it was long it was a two thousand words. Yeah to say that noise at restaurants is actually good and I was rolling my eyes at but I did like the paragraph that you also enjoyed whereas like it took him fifteen hundred words to get to this point but then he got to it and I enjoy restaurants are among the last remaining places where groups of humans still sound on the same way. They did before the age of auto tune in deep fakes. As of yet nobody has figured out how to slice and splice and manipulate the way we respond to one another when we're having fun together that's the signal in the noise. Actually this is different. This is like paranoid. So you can't manipulate actually human-to-human talk. I liked I. I like the point that you control everything. Everyone always has their ear. Pardon like just seeing people wear them freaks me out and feel like I'm in some dystopia in future. Yeah where it's like. We're all plugged in to this thing. Yeah and I feel you should hear what's going on around you. That's why you can get the here through thing where it microphone inside and then it blasts the noise of around terrible that real. Oh my God. That's terrible so I get what he's saying mm-hmm I also think a lot of restaurants are too noisy because of current restaurant design which is all about heart services and glass. Yeah and restaurants. Were once carpeted and that was the look and you would put are everywhere and they'd be all these soft carpets tables before apart from one another. Now it's all that would and these super yeah coup stick elements and it takes a lot of work to soften that and so many restaurants whereas you know will open a restaurant and then a month later have to go through this whole renovation to make the sound levels data because it you hear people and I think he's kind of glossing over over that element of like some restaurants where it's actually just terrible to be in them until the restaurant where figured out. Yeah I think that this gives a huge unfair unfair passed to you. Know restaurants called like California Hardwood or whatever whereas just dimly lit sound bouncing all over the place. And you can't here the other person. Yeah so yeah. I agree like pump if I can hear the other person clearly. Yeah pump the shit. Out of the noise I get in the car with people people and I want the radio on just because I don't like silence. Silence makes me a little nervous so I'm obviously game for it but like not not being able to hear people you know it sucks at my hearing is not fantastic. Spend a Lotta time blasting music in my ears and that moment yeah. I can't even imagine what it's like to have actual hearing problems but when you're looking at someone kind of nodding and like doing nothing reading their lips kind of pretending to hear them and then and then they're like do you agree and you're like Oh oh I was just smiling. What'd you worse? Yeah because then it's like it's Kinda like you know you're pretending to hear it's terrible. Yeah so Yeah it's a balance But yes Restaurant Noise is one of my favorite partial restaurants. Restaurants vibe of a restaurant is why we love restaurants so I think the all. His readers are complaining eating all the time. They don't just want these silent palaces they just Wanna be able to hear the person across from them and there are things that restaurants can do to help that and he talked about signal the noise I mean I don't want to presume whose e mailing in to be wells about this but pete wells readership. You Know The New York Times restaurant Old Old and when young you know and it's like people like us and then old school super old school New Yorkers and I bet he's not getting many emails from air pod wearers. There's being like I'm so used to my silent pods. I hate when you go to restaurants and there's restaurant noise signal in the noise. Old People that are writing in about loud restaurants are experiencing life. Yes signed the old way. They're not learning curve. Missed Lou tests right right actually. Never heard a podcast before where don't own headphones I mean. Maybe this is what you're saying it's just a classic wells Ian Troll well wells the encounter founder. Take with I think some some fun points in there if I ever owned a restaurant and I was just thinking about this actually. We were in a restaurant. And I wasn't happy with the level of I would pump fucking conversational noise into the restaurant to get it into the right level the EU so it wasn't in the range of people people's vocal patterns. If he really I was just what the reason I left I was just thinking about imagine being in an empty restaurant. Kinda like Mariah Carey. Stop like when she stopped singing the MIC and show. You hear voices still going. You're in an empty restaurant. They forgot forget to turn like like the shattered by why. You're chatter out restaurants empty empty restaurant restaurant. Thank you so much for listening to eaters. Digest would have blasted an episode. If you like the show please rate and review us and if you have any questions for us emails I just ear Dot Com. Please do and anything else that you'd like to do. 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How Chef Dan Giusti Is Feeding Kids in School + Restaurants Are Turning into Wine Stores

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How Chef Dan Giusti Is Feeding Kids in School + Restaurants Are Turning into Wine Stores

"This episode is brought to you by seed lip. The world's first is still non alcoholic spirit. We're spending more time indoors these days and while a lot has and continues to change making a drink you enjoy at the end of the day. She didn't see the blends and bottles three delicious flavors of spirits all without alcohol calories or sugar. Embrace some of the world's best bartenders. See this is truly a drink for every kind of drinker. Flip is a non alcoholic spirit as unconventional as those who enjoy it visit seedless drinks dot com slash. Us to purchase and learn more. Hi Everyone and welcome to eaters digest show by all things we didn't dining editor in chief eater and I'm Daniel Janine. I am a producer at eater and this week we are talking to Dan Giusti. Who is formerly the chef of Noma and has opened company called Brigade where they are looking to change the way that schools serve lunches to he is very relevant in this moment because he and a lot of the district's that he operates in is feeding a lot of kids and they are sending out more meals than they would during the school times as safely as possible. Yeah and he is. Also I should mention Daniel our first guest in quarantine so he is a good sport by being Guinea pig. Were the were. We have also been guinea pigs though. Yeah sure we are each other's guinea pigs. I guess yeah. I don't think I like the sound of that. But anyway before we talk to Dan Giusti Daniel. You and I should talk about the current ever changing state of the restaurant world the good the bad the tragic the ridiculous also. Howard both doing if you like the show please Rate and review as tell a friend. Give us five stars. What else Daniel tweet about it? Sure yeah send us an email digest eater dot com. Amanda what should we start with I mean I hate this but I think the biggest news we have to start with. Is Floyd car does. Yeah that's a really sad one Floyd Cardoso's for those who don't know is a one of the most prominent New York chefs. We are recording this on Thursday at to release on Friday so yeah he died this week. I think it was a shock to everyone in the restaurant industry. I think we all knew that this would take someone we knew. But it's just crazy when it actually happens And he just seems so young he was so young he was fifty nine years old Just so influential such an important figure and to think that like within a week it's just all over is insane to me. He was just someone who was so loved by the whole by the whole industry so the world the restaurant world is in mourning for Floyd. It's also important to note it's impacted how people are operating their business. So Andy. Ricker of Pop puck announced yesterday that he was going to close down his restaurants where he had been doing takeout delivery. After seeing. What happened to Floyd? He changed his mind and decided that. Fuck it this is not safe. I don't WanNa mess with this includes things down. I think we are going to see other people. Follow suit from the start. Everyone has said it's going to affect people you know but I think this has happened to me personally. You don't really you don't really feel it until it is someone you actually know or and you get the call or you see that tweet and it's just like what so on a less depressing note g. WanNa talk about the good things that are happening to kind of get us out of this. Meeting is most things. Most things are less depressing. Yes everything is less depressing so I think we maybe talked about this last week. But there's just been so much going on in terms of people trying to help one another one of the big things I've noticed there's kind of this. Trend of deep pocketed donors using restaurants as a way to feed people in need. So whether that's the state the government Or just rich donors or big brands They are keeping restaurant tours and restaurant workers employed and also giving away food so a couple examples in San Francisco. The people who run K. Fico They are getting money from hold on former twitter. Ceo De Castelo Said he would donate two thousand dollars to the restaurant every single night until the shutdown ends and that will feed people who want to dine there for free. So they'll be giving away the food funded by him and he's encouraging other wealthy donors in the bay area to do the same In Boston this is happening with the government. They are funding restaurants to serve. Homeless People I guess across the country. We've seen these community kitchens pop-up maker's mark is sponsoring those so at Jordan. Nancy Silverton at Lea- a bunch of other restaurants they are serving free meals To restaurant industry workers all funded by maker's mark. The liquor bridge a great look for maker's mark. I did not expect maker's mark to be at the end of these articles and you know what I think it is. It's not cynical. Take a pragmatic I think they have. They spent a ton of money on the Derby. And that's not happening so they have all this money. Where can we quickly deploy it to do? Good let's give it to all these restaurants and they can immediately make all these meals giveaway diapers and wipes and everything that people rather than finding like some underground greyhound racing establish exactly. I wouldn't say that that's not cynical but it's not cynical not cynical. That's that's I think. Going to be on my gravestone this kind of Jose. Andres he wrote a big OP. Ed In the New York Times. This is what he is lobbying for like. Have the government pay restaurants to feed people in need like these are spaces. That can cook. They have employees who need the work and are skilled at this. They're safe ways to do it in a way and there are people who are going to be in need. So let's let's put all these pieces together. We move onto businesses. That are doing well during this time period Maybe starting with. It's a great time to be a liquor I think is a great time to be a liquor store. A lot of these government. Shutdowns are calling liquor and wine at quote unquote essential which I agree. With so liquor stores are doing big business. Especially if they're able to deliver We have a big piece right now. Up Anita about how restaurants basically turning into de facto wine stores. So I think at first. When restaurant started shutting down they started selling off their sellers as a way to fundraise but a lot of restaurants are just keeping it going and just becoming one stores stores and they will use their employees to go deliver or you can come pick up which is incredibly smart. That's Kinda where I would like to buy my wine because the people you want me to Edis. And it's still still a pretty hefty markup so a lot of these places restaurants on if this is still the norm but it's usually three hundred percent markup. Yeah and they are selling it at fifty percent of their list price right so. I mean that. Three hundred percent from wholesale. So you're still paying more than you would at a retail store. A lot of these bottles are going for thirty or forty. You probably get them retail way cheaper but you feel good about it because you feel like you're supporting restaurant and also again the curation like you trust your Somali. You Trust this restaurant you go to all the time I trust my local wine store but I don't trust everyone store so I kinda I kinda think we're going to get through? This is by trusting our Somalis. Take it day by day. Interest Malia the one of the things I have found fascinating has been. How amazingly influential This distinction between essential and non essential has been State to state For instance like a few days ago I did a little run at this completely abandoned mall near me in Toronto and the GNC was still open. And I was like I was really says the vitamins health. Yeah and she was like you guys are open and she goes yes. Thank God. The government deemed health food stores to be essential. And i'm like i just think they haven't checked in on what health food they just because like. They're like Oh. They must sell masks there. No they sell like Kito Eyeso- protein or whatever. So did you stock up. No I trusted. They'll just be open forever. Fair I mean but really if you think about it like if liquor stores are open for you that's okay for ice. Oh Flex to be open for me. I mean fair a couple of the other interesting ways. The restaurants have been a raising money. Is We've seen a lot of kind of like auctions and chefs offering to do online classes. I'm going to admit that I haven't watched any yet because I've been a little underwater with work and kids and stuff but I'm into it. I like you idea of all these chef's being at home trying to find ways to pass the time and also raise a little money if they can for their stock yes so into it into it. Eleven Madison Park. You know Just put up a bunch of auction items to raise money for their staff One of them was a five thousand dollar run in the park with the head. Chef Daniel Hume How how much are you going to be hitting on that you know? I'm not really an outside runner right when I say I. I love a treadmill. Maybe you that I think you just start the bidding zero because this happened to me before where I start an auction bidding low or what I think is low just to like get it going and then I ended up winning and then I went on a five hour. Run with this guy. That's not where I thought I thought what you're GonNa say is for some charity. You gave them like lunch with Amanda and I just started low because I don't WANNA walk out lunch with Amanda clued starting ten thousand dollars and then just be like whoa. She takes seriously. You're just start at low and then someone one time for like fifty bucks in your like. Did we do this Daniels? Should we put like a virtual lunch with us for like ten dollars to raise money for charity? He's sure but we think we started at like twenty k. Because then if no one does it. It's like well twenty k. Was A lot. I don't WanNa know that I'm worth seven hundred dollars. You know for for charity for charity. Would I face my value in dollars? How much am I worth anyway? I think you were bringing up the Daniel Auction to poke fun. But you know what he knows his audience five thousand dollar run with no. I'm not exactly poking fun. I think that that one that one is funny. Because it all of the other things that they were auctioning off were food related and then it was just like a five k. five k. with with Danny Kaye. Five KS. Pretty good marketing. They can have that if they want. Because it's for charity. Listen I mean why not like. I think what we've there's been a huge conversation online of whether or not gift cards are helpful but if the restaurant can figure out a way to package future experiences like I'm seeing a lot of places have A they're saying like we're GONNA have a huge party. Pay What you want for a ticket to this huge part Jonah Miller of us in New York is doing that And he actually read a really interesting notes to all of his newsletter subscribers about how he doesn't like asking for donations which I think is very valid as a business owner. It feels very uncomfortable to ask for donations. And then He. He went on to say that he felt uncomfortable with how much the industry has to compete against one another. So you're always competing for business and now you're competing for these donations for your staff and it's just like such an iky place to be an so uncomfortable. And so he's going the route of a reopening party with one hundred percent of the proceeds going to. I mean it's a really tough decision for a lot of these chefs because a and and restaurant owners because they have to choose between whether or not to just flat out ask people for Money. Yeah and they are businesses. But they're just a lot of them are just constantly skating. Bhai even in the best of times and I hadn't thought about that competitive element and as a consumer. You do see that. It's like every restaurant I go to is asking me for money. And everyone is like putting up on me's and they're just like Oh my God like as as a fan it's unsustainable. I went to hard too soon. I gave a bunch at the beginning and now all these restaurants are popping up. And it's just like it's such a sad reality but it's like I like in a way. They missed they missed the go fund me wave. They missed the initial blast. I don't know if that's true. I think especially with these creative solutions. They will find ways to raise money for sure. I think now you have to do something more creative. I'm saying the first few that came out with the go fund me has had some. That might just be personal. Like I've been biding my time. You're waiting I'm just. I'm just going to wait and see and decide like I know there's time here like we're going to be in this for awhile and decide do I. If I WANNA give just pure dollars who am I gonNA give it to GonNa distributed around my neighborhood or around different restaurants or am I just going to buy a ton of merge or my just GONNA. That's because you're so reasonable though. Well I'm just saying that we represent two different ways of spending. Nobody uses the right one. No no no you gave with your heart. I'm dispassionate and that's not good. I was joking. I was talking to To Serena last night and I was like you need to take my go fund me account information away. We are in this for a while and I always see things through this angle of like the media. Buzz and my instinct is to be like. Oh you guys missed the boat. On this media buzz of go fund me and that is such a gusting way to see the world. You're like how can I would let me wait. Four fucking seconds to see where the money will actually be useful instead of just pummeling go fund. Me's for the first five places and then running out of it. I'm sure so I honestly in this case I'm GonNa deem we each get a vote my go focus to you being right. Well I think the places that you donate it to appreciate it. So there is. There's no wrong philanthropy in this age right now. Can you talk about any of the surprising restaurants that you've seen doing things like delivery or takeout or cocktail delivery or anything like that? There's a restaurant in L. A. Called and knock which is a key. Sacchi to Michelin starred. Super Fancy super hard to get the table ties. Seki place I think they charge like two hundred and fifty dollars for dinner and they're doing a thirty nine dollars. Bento boxes which look so incredible and I saw an interesting conversation I think La THE LA Times. Put out a thing where the framing of it was basically. Here's an awesome. This is so cool. This is an awesome opportunity to get these meals and to get to eat food from these shafts. Which I kind of I don't I don't. I'm not happy about the circumstances but I always love when you see these shafts do tweezers food than like make a roast chicken like. I love that kind of stuff and they were like this is an awesome opportunity and then some people were saying these restaurants are doing are just trying to survive here. This isn't like they're not excited to be doing home cooking. They're just trying to get by. I found that to be like I mean philosophically and interesting debate but to answer your question. I want that Bento box. Yeah I think the idea is like Oh look at this. You can get a linear food at a discount. The complaint is. This is a horrible time. You can't take joy in anything but I but you're right like it's I would eat that Bento box and a second and yeah I'm sad the and knock it needs to do this in stoop to this level but I'm here for it. Yeah I I actually reject. I personally reject the criticism of of the articles that are making. It seem like it's fun because like I don't think anyone is out there being like I've been waiting for this opportunity to eat linnea for four out of a minor league. I'm fine I'm alone in my house. Everyone gets it even in the very rare circumstance where someone has been following a linear their whole life and they're so obsessed with it but they could never afford to eat there. Even that person is not like fuck yet. It's fucking time. I've been waiting if you really care about a place like Linea. You're not excited. That they're doing this because of what it represents for their business so no one. No one's having a let's eat as many Michelin Stars for deliveries. We can party. I was having that it'd be but I I ordered. I mean even in Toronto. A couple of the great restaurants are are doing delivery and I had some great restaurant food delivered last night. How did it travel amazing but I think you can simultaneously take joy from the fact that really really talented Successful shafts are making home food and also acknowledged the severity and the difficulty of the city. Yes WE ARE COMPLEX BEINGS. We can accept. We are complex things at once. Amanda you lost your SM- sense of Sny did why did I have not been enjoying fancy restaurant food delivered to my house. Well neither have. I had a complex reaction to go on. Okay well I have not even been consuming the food then so I have not been able to smell for five days. Yeah and it turns out one of the symptoms of Cova nineteen that you cannot smell and for some people. It's the only symptom for some people. It comes before or after or during your intense bouts of fevers and chills and aches and respiratory distress. But is just one of the weird weird things going on because you can breathe just fine but you can't smell or taste anything that's wild and you wrote. You wrote a piece about it which is now on eater. But what did you learn Talking to people who are going through the same thing just that it's sad like in the grand scheme of the world it's very innocuous and just silly to even think that much about but when you're stuck in your house on quarantine one of the things you want to do is eat delicious foods and bake and cook and drink all the wine that you're hoarding. And when you can't do that it's just sad for me. It's not that big a deal because I have. Here's here's my kid. Hansel comes to Daniel Real quick. Sorry hold on okay until you WANNA go find poppy. Okay yeah good kid. Well I'm in some ways I feel like losing your taste. Is it if you just lose your sense of taste like a lot of people would say that? That is amazing. Because that means I mean you've got it and you guys are self-isolating and deer fine. Yes but this. I wish I could get tested To just confirm it because if I did this which I think it is then it means. I'm good then I gotta I gotTa easy like. I felt a little sick for week. But otherwise fine Daniel. We had a story that ran toward the end of this week. That did some crazy. Numbers and the story about how cheesecake factory wrote a letter to all of its landlords across the country saying we are not going to be able to pay rent bottom line. We just are not going to have the money. Yeah cheesecake factory is it is just the perfect restaurant to make a splash for this kind of thing for some reason you know why they're and they're kind of silly. Yeah and they have a big following like people like them a lot. You know I get really drives it home. This is not just going to be hard for your favorite mom and pop. This is going to be devastating for a lot of businesses like even even cheesecake factory. Can't pay their rent. So what is your gut call on how this is going to move forward in the case of the cheesecake factory? Do think it's going to be case. By case basis where they're going to get into fights with their landlords in some of the some of their spaces or do you think they will be forgiven for one month? How do you think is GonNa pay me? I don't know I think they're all different landlords across the country in two hundred and ninety four restaurants so I think it will depend. I mean maybe when they get the stimulus that's about to go through. That can help them pay this rent and some of the other costs that they have. We're going to get more into the bill next week depending on whether or not it passes today. We're time loop going on here because today tomorrow today. Anyway all right. So let's say I'm a small restaurant Let's say I'm close to your house and I served natural wine and you love hanging out at me. Anyway whatever are you the fly nobody so if I have let's say I have let go all of my employees And I shut my doors and I have. Let's say twelve employees as this bill hits today with the limited time that you've had to digest it. How will I be affected? So first of all your employees will benefit. They are going to get the stimulus checks that go around to everybody so long as they make under one hundred thousand dollars. So if they make seventy five thousand dollars or less they'll be eligible for a twelve hundred dollar check and it kind of gets lower and lower from there up to the cap of one hundred thousand dollars Also there's a provision that they'll get a six hundred dollar week check on top of unemployment so that will help them and there's an extension unemployment. That's being worked in so it's usually about half a year and there's I think thirteen extra weeks hold on and now they can get employment for thirty nine weeks if they qualify Also for the business owner day for you if you have a very small business like the one you're talking about you can get a loan. That will be relieved. So basically free money or are grant There's a stipulation in that you need to not lay off all of your employees so you have a time period. I think you have up until June to hire them all back if you can't you know if you go bankrupt by then then this is useless but if you can keep things going and you're able to reopen you're able to hire them back then you can get this basically bailout money to help you get through this. There's also going to be some tax relief. So you want you can defer your twenty twenty taxes for Social Security and Medicare which is respectively six point two percent and one point five one point four five percent taxes will do until end of twenty twenty one half of them and then the other half end of twenty twenty two in the best. They really do. They released L. Could relieve my taxes going forward hold on my employees now and it's foreseeable future and cover my expenses until I reopen the loan. That you could be getting would be. Capped at two point. Five Times the average monthly payroll. So that is that is the loan or the grant that you'd be getting is your monthly payroll times two and a half that makes that's an interesting scenario considering that there's a lot of undocumented workers in New York and elsewhere who would not be on the payroll. Yeah Yeah that is an interesting catch. A lot of criticism has been about that that skill? You aren't sure if undocumented workers will get any of this is I think people are saying that there is a loophole. Where if they are if they are paying taxes because they are if they pass a substantial presence test they are treated as resident aliens for Tax Purposes. So they could be getting the stimulus checks. But what you're talking about is would they count towards your loan or your Iran as business. And if they're not on your payroll then how could that be the case read further? Punish ME FOR HAVING UNDOCUMENTED. Well if I'm the American government and yes I do. WanNa punish you for not giving you extra money because of that and I'm not gonNA come fess up with The other thing on your payroll that won't count towards that loan. Is anyone making over? One hundred thousand dollars so if you have a lot if you have a very expensive payroll a lot of really well paid people that's not. GonNa Count Towards your two point five x if that makes them but yeah I think the biggest catch is that you the loan diminishes if you lay off workers because they really want to incentivize you to hire people back and get people off unemployment interesting okay. So we'll keep tabs on this end. We'll see we'll see what the reaction is from from business owners especially. Yeah next week we can talk to People really in it to get their thoughts and feelings and opinions Amana. We are going to be right back after this word from seed lip right now. 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But they can't get drive-thru obviously bit so they haven't been able to McDonald's which a lot of them and a lot of them do eat at McDonald's so they're they're McDonald's is adapting to figure out a new way of having parking lot delivery. I never thought about tracks not being able to go through the drive thru. That's in the truck that it doesn't cause you you've gone all the way you're driving too hard you know it's actually. This is on a lighter. Note when you see those big rigs of those like people who outfit they're SUV's with the giant tires I love that. Those people can't get they deserve that. It's so silly I mean unless you have a reason for. I don't even know what reason you would actually have for that. I guess if there's if your home is across a pond or something maybe you could make a case for it but I want to close under. No we're going to get Dan Giusti of like people. Just people should just be nice to each other A friend of mine who owns a restaurant called Saigon social in New York Had An issue with a door. Dasher will delivery person last night who came up screaming. Who got who showed up early chef. Helen Win The the the guy showed up. She said seven minutes early and said what's taking so long. The restaurant is cool. Everybody just chill the fuck out. Yeah thank you. All the delivery people who are helping people eat. Thank you to all. The shops were in the restaurants sending out delivery food for people to eat. But you know what these are. These are strange and unprecedented circumstances. The word unprecedented is now over us. I hate that this is also what's causing me anxiety like everyone. Everyone's texting everyone's saying how are you holding up and now I'm like I'm not gonna say that anymore over? Let's hear what's your new way to check in on people. I don't know I mean. What do you pivot to? Howard things original non Cliche to deal. I mean I've I've resorted all the way back to the beginning and instead I just say sup and I do s with the up just like the old days of instant messaging. No I don't know but I mean you know what this is. No time to fret over cliches. I just worry that people are saying how are you and it's fine. Yeah I just It's so in my head that these people who are in situations that are not ideal right now. Oregon opened their text. Messages is just GonNa be twelve people saying how are you holding up and then you gotta stand out out of those people if you WanNa keep your lines of communication. Oh Al I'm it's fine. So how am I? How am I holding up a? Let's move onto Dan's juicy. You know all right. Let's move onto Giusti who is Having to radically change his business feeding kids in schools to feedings kids while they are not in school and delivering many meals as he can using limited staff in this absolutely crazy time. Dan would you mind just quickly explaining What your normal days operation is. Yeah yes on a normal day with brigade. We put chefs professional chefs into grade schools in different capacities. So in some school districts we work in. They are overseeing whole operations Working with the staff changing menus to execute primarily scratch made foods in some of the school district. We work in. We basically deployed training program. So one of our chefs moves from school to school. Really kind of rearranging their kitchens instituting different standard procedures and protocols and again really trying to elevate what they're already doing and then work towards making more scratch cooked food so that's kind of what we do on a normal day so now that the schools in New York are closed. What are you doing? What we're doing now is operating under the guidance of This summer meals program essentially. So you know you might not know but during the summer kids are fed anyone over under the age of eighteen can get a meal At a at a site In this is kind of the program were operating under now that program states that basically you can only serve two of the three potential meals From one place so we are serving meals. Were serving breakfast and lunch So I could speak more specifically to new London. We're offering breakfast and lunch and what we're doing now actually minimize the amount of days that people are working whereas before everyone was working every single day through the week. We felt that that was necessary. So we've adjusted the way that we're working working three times a week so Monday. Wednesday Friday so on Monday breakfast and lunch is prepared and then distributed for kids to get them to Wednesday. So you can imagine. It's a lot of meals that one day but we feel like this is the safest way in actually in new London now. We're distributing meals by school bus so in a small town like London were distributing to thirty six different sites. So people can come and pick them up and get as many meals as they need for their kids so it's trying to make it as convenient possible trying to keep people are staff away from anyone from the outside keeping other people from the outside away from other people from the outside. It's a real challenge but ranks kind of what needs to happen. Can you tell us what the districts are the urine? And how many kids you're feeding everyday. Yeah I mean the kids are feeling a little bit challenging to say because our our the way in which we work in the school district is different so we work in New London public schools. There is where overseeing basically we work with the food service director there to really kind of oversee the whole operation that six schools about thirty five hundred students to get say that. That's something that we're doing on a daily basis during the course of the year. We're feeding kids breakfast lunch in many schools supper as well We work with New York City public schools. Our there now is limited to two schools. We're supposed to go to more schools. Basically now delayed we also work with their school food administration to help develop menus basically those schools in which we operate in act as kind of a testing ground for menus and protocols and procedures to hopefully then be deployed system wide New York City. Public schools is feeding million kids today. Approximately so that's enormous So again we're not directly doing that. We'd like to think that we're kind of influencing some of the decisions that they're making we work in Southampton Public Schools which is only three schools. It's tiny school district in New York Southampton New York. That's where we're deploying a training program so basically one of our chefs just making their way through the three schools. His role has now changed and now he's just helping them make sure that they're doing things as best as possible during this time similarly in Richmond. Virginia that has a large school district. It's about forty schools. We were sending a chef through different schools to do the training program there as well which now has responsibility has changed to helping them. Strategize oversee this kind of whole issue. Are you being given more money now? To produce food than you were before this happened yet so because you're on summer program exactly. Yeah for Summer Summer Program. Reimbursement rate is about fifty cents higher per meal. Which when you're talking three ninety six. I think three hundred ninety six. That's what we're getting per lunch when you're talking fifty cents. It's a lot so that definitely helps for sure So in terms of the food This is all taken care of so we serve a meal it gets paid for. I think the real challenge is for example if you have one hundred employees during the course of the school year in only twenty of them are working now Many school districts are grappling with the idea. Okay do we pay. Can we pay all of the staff that are not working in most school districts of definitely they WanNa do that are leaning towards that Whether they know how they're going to pay for it ultimately or not they're going to do it But this is the real challenge in the real struggle of how to pay for these employees during his time. Could you talk about how the the unions have been making it difficult to organize your staff? Yeah I mean it's one of these things in in certain issues. Bring the whole Union thing into perspective for example on that issue I in that kind of scenario brought up if you have one hundred people going to twenty people. And it's a unionized of service or or or departments. Usually CERTAIN PEOPLE ARE GETTING PRIORITIES. In terms of seniority those people will get the work and bringing in volunteers. Essentially to displace paid workers doesn't really work for a lot of reasons and union or not if you think about it. It's not great anyway. You don't really WANNA displays people that that potentially could getting paid. It's a tricky situation though So some unionized places. I see that I know they're unionized. Are Having volunteers and it seems to be okay. Unions obviously Operate differently in different places but with that said it does get complicated and not just because it's this like very desperate situation to these things go away. There's still logistics. There's still business happening. If you will. And as much as I would love to think that those things would just kind of like disappear for a moment and we would just Dan. What's best for everyone? It doesn't work that way and and one other thing. Is that a lot of the folks that are getting seniority and are choosing to work because they have to work because they might not necessarily be getting paid otherwise a lot of these folks might be older in fact a lot of School Food Service workers are elder elderly people and a lot of them do have underlying health condition so this brings up a whole nother can of worms that. We're trying to figure out how to deal with kind of what I'm hearing is. That means that you're in a position where you have to choose between someone who has seniority. Who WANTS TO WORK? Who is older and potentially More of a of a risk versus someone who doesn't have seniority. Who is younger? Who also wants to work and that decision then falls on you. It will that. That's the problem. The decision doesn't fall on US It's it's basically there's a list of people and you have to go down that list and it's like do you want to work. And if they say yes then it's it's they're entitled to that work so that's how it works. That's the real challenge and some of these folks will say you know. I don't work 'cause I'm at risk and I am okay right now in terms of finances but a lot of these folks need to work like most people need to work so of course they're going to choose to work and we we kind of have our hands tied even if we want to say. Hey look it's probably not a good idea that you work. It's really it's really between them. The Union and the school district at that point. How do you keep people safe in your kitchens? Well I think the best thing we can do first of all as minimize the amount of people working and that's a hard thing to do 'cause back to what I said you WanNa make if a situation where people are not going to get paid unless they work you kind of want to have as many people working as possible to ensure they get paid but at the same time. That's that's really not very responsible. So it's about limiting the amount of people who are working in general. It's about limiting the amount of people who are working in one given space so for example in a small school district like new London that there are only six schools We have now split our operation into multiple kitchens versus one with very small teams so you have a limited amount of people working in in in a space. So they can be. They can be far apart from each other but also looking as we move forward the challenges in so much now but for example if we have fifteen employees working in technically those fifteen employees could work all out of one kitchen and make things work perfectly and it would be very efficient. The fact that matters if one of those employees get sick. What do we do then that kitchen get shut down and all of those fifteen plays have to be quarantined for two weeks so now splitting up. Those fifteen employs in multiple kitchens makes everything safer and if one of them does get sick And you can quarantine the one group. You still have to operating spaces or a couple operating spaces. So it's it's I think there's there's looking at it now and how to be safe now but it's really as we're being told obviously by everyone. The worst is yet to come. So how do we prepare for that? That's really the issue and making sure that we have trained staff kind of in the wings ready to take people's places in fact. We have two chefs in new London for example one of which is pretty much overseeing the all the whole operation. The other one was working. But we've decided to take him out entirely basically have him just out on his own and be be away from this because of our chef get sick himself or test positive for this. We need to be able to replace him. So it's really being able to make sure you can sustain it and for me. That's the biggest issue. I think folks will face because it really does take a lot of foresight and I don't know if every school district even has kind of the resources and people to be able to kind of plan in that way. Would you talk a little bit about the different challenges. That the different districts pose. Yeah I mean it really comes down to again. I think operationally in terms of like producing meals. it's it's it's nothing different if anything. It's become a little easier as now. Our focus is less on really kind of pushing the envelope and seeing what we can produce in trying to make meals as good as we can but also trying to take away as much labor as possible so some of the meals become simpler. So that's that's easier. I think the biggest issue again is really what we were just talking about kind of making sure that in every district like what are the practices. That are actually happening. Obviously every school district poses different Kind of difficulties and challenges in some of those are easier to deal with than others and easier to plan for a lot of what we do is strategizing and it's like you know. Are we delivering meals? Are we having people come? Pick up meals if they are picking them up where they picking them up. We've instituted kind of delivery windows. And some of the school districts were in so for example people can drive up and pick things up again in some of the school districts. You have people choosing not to work now so In some school districts. Everyone's paid for. So that's the that's the other challenge so as much as you want people to get paid if they're going to get paid no matter what then they're like. Why would I work so they do have enough people working and and you can kind of understand where they're coming from if they choose they don't WanNa work So really the major challenges now really have to do is staffing and it's such a tricky situation again. Because I think during the school year things are a lot more clear cut and you can take sides and say. Why don't understand this? I understand this now. It's like it's really challenging because we wanna feed everyone but you can also understand why some of the staff are like. I don't know if I want to be here. I feel a bit. I don't feel safe. So the the tricky situation now in the question I asked our staff every day. Our chefs are like. Do you feel safe. Do you think that the proper things are happening within the school district to ensure your safety and the staff safety and again that's easier said than done it's like do you have mass. Do not have masks. Should we be wearing masks? How many people are working in each kitchen? Has Anyone tested has been tested in your kitchen? I mean these are all things that like in some places. They're happening in some places they're not. What are the protocols? What's the local health department saying or not saying it seems to be? There's a lot of inconsistency in terms of the messaging around all these things from from from kind of more local agencies so that makes things challenging because we are a partner is well so we work within the framework of a school district so if they're operating in one way another school district is operating a different way. We kind of fall in line with that but at some point now with all these things you have to kind of draw that line and say look like. Is this our our. You've are you okay with this like you really feel strongly that this is the safest way to do these things and then you know people need to reevaluate and like don't get me wrong. I truly believe everyone's trying to do the right thing But it is confusing for everyone. In the reason we work in school food as it is is because it's a very challenging space and it's a very under resourced space so now with this added additional challenge like it makes it that much harder. We've seen a lot of people come as you were saying. A lot of people WANNA help her would you. Would you talk about the challenges that you face when you have planned meals when there are these random pockets of of huge food giveaways in these areas? That you're feeding up so I think I think New York City is probably the best example and this is something like I can say more as a witness in that were were operating in a couple of schools which gives us enough of an idea of what's happening. What's not happening. But in a big city like New York there's obviously a variety of partners throughout the course of the year who do a variety of things in services and now obviously in the time of need there are more people who kind of come out and say. Hey we're GONNA help because there's loads of people here. There's loads of people that need. The problem is is for example You know you have all these sites operating across the city. You have all these people showing up to work. You've all this food bring produced and then if there's no coordination with outside organizations and what happens is in one place. They might not have enough food. But in another school for example We saw like I think one of the schools who are working in the first week. We're operating preparing four hundred meals and only twenty get served because there's another organization close by had prepared meals as well and gave those meals out the other thing. Is that the meals that are being prepared in schools are reimbursed by Federal Program. The National School Lunch Program meals that are being prepared by other organizations typically are being paid by nonprofit funds. Look it's all great work but at the same time it's Kinda crazy to think that you'd be preparing all these meals again. Having all these people show up to work which again as we talked about is a risk in itself is a food being is being prepared and it's being wasted And then these are being taken place by meals. That are not even federally reimbursed. Seems Kinda crazy? So it's a challenge and I think everyone's trying to do the right thing. There's no question but I will say that when you have a variety of federally reimbursed food programs which there are many so they're federally reimbursed programs. Obviously like the National School Lunch Program. Their programs that feed the elderly. These are all reimbursed. You have to work within a certain guideline of course The money is there. And it's budgeted for these programs so again. It's kind of nuts to think that we wouldn't be utilizing those programs to the fullest. What are you telling people to do? Who Call you and say I'm out of work. I want to help out. I mean it's challenging. I think what I would say is first and foremost to contact your local whatever. It may be school districts. If there's a senior center programs that are operating within federally reimbursed programs. I think those are the places I would contact and see if they need help. Obviously if you're in a place to financially help people you can donate directly to a school food program for example But I think the other thing that people need to understand is like I said earlier. The idea of volunteering into one of these programs Volunteering for news programs is a little maybe not desirable by by the program itself. At this point you want to limit the amount of people you have in school and obviously even during the course of the year. It's quite often. That people are asking me. Can it can volunteer. And it's a school. You know you have kids there and it's not like you just show up and you work in a school in everybody. Works in the school gets background. Check all these things so like there's a little more to it. It's a sensitive space and even again in these times of need. There's there's protocols there's procedures and you know as much as you'd kind of want to wipe all these rules away and just say let's just make sure everyone gets food. It's just not gonNA happen right like again. People are just going to have to like it's going to be a challenging time for a lot of people in it's hard to see and it's hard to say but I think in order to do this right in order to do it correctly you you can't involve everyone Dan Juicy. Thank you so much for for taking the time we will talk to you again. Thank you for your work at a different time and things thank you so much. Thank you so much for listening to eaters digest. Thank you to Amanda Clued. Thank you Daniel. Janine. Thank you to Dan. 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Encore: The Worst Things New York Diners Do in Restaurants

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Encore: The Worst Things New York Diners Do in Restaurants

"This episode is brought to you by Dell X. P. S. thirteen two and one laptop. This is the laptop for all your streaming binging holiday movie watching. It needs the four K.. Plus infinity edge display. Del Cinema. Color provides crisp vivid visuals from the deepest blacks to the most dazzling brights and the DEL cinema. Sound he sickly. It'll knock your socks off the newly remastered X. P. S. thirteen to one from Dell With del cinema color sound in stream powered by ten John Intel core processors. It offers unparalleled performance. Find out more at eight hundred buy Dell Welcome to Eaters Digest Twenty twenty. My name is Jean. I am a producer eater and one of the hosts of this show To start start the year off. We wanted to bring you. I wanted to bring you one of my favorite episodes of all time of the show It is from long ago before the Digest Renaissance Assange. It is called the worst things that New York diners do in restaurants For this episode I brought on a friend of mine one of the people. I know her name is Erica Hall. She is the general manager of ultra delicious. Ultra Trendy Wind. Sun Is a Taiwanese restaurant in Brooklyn. Erica is brilliant at running restaurants and also a very observant person. She notices things that people do and off tells me about them and I was like. Hey Erica want you. Make a list of some things that diners doing doing that. Are you know kind of driving you nuts a little bit and maybe we'll talk about them on the show then we did it so without further ado here. Is Eric Hall of Wins Doc. Erica you here today to talk about New York Diner. Stereotypes things that you notice in the restaurant and things that you want that you want to call out from your experience at Winston in New York but also other places. You've you've worked. I think the most important thing thing that we wanted to clear up is like this is not a shitting on these people. We From my perspective. It's like if I was doing some of these things I would wanna WanNa know because I always feel like everything I do in the world. I'm the only one who does it. And it's not like lots of people. Do these things in restaurants is lots and And I would wanNA know that this is the thing that you would notice and it makes your day maybe not worse something you pick up on or maybe it's a problem that you have and you're like this. This keeps happening to me but it's not just you. Everybody which is what happens at the tour door. Why don't we talk about your your position? So you're the manager of Winston that means you run and you are responsible for all the tables and also the the wait list and also I. Am I oversee all of that. It's somebody else's specific vic responsibility so like you know. The host is responsible for that but I'm constantly monitoring like yeah. I'm always up there being like. Hey what's up. What's going on looking at it? Checking it to make sure that things are right or there might be something that I see somewhere and then yeah with tables. Obviously there's like servers but I'm obviously always at the tables herbals too. I run food. I make drinks I Trek jokes That's my favorite part of my job. That's all I really do. That's those are my favorite favorite days when I finished the day and I'm like wow I pretty much just like torched a couple tables talk win around talking to people all day talk shit all but then there's other days where I'm more irresponsible things. Why don't we start with things that happen at the door? Talk to me about this. Everyone's around the corner. Yeah everyone does this mean it just means people you know arrived at a restaurant and you're like all right we're GONNA party three okay are. Is Everybody here. Well no but my friend they. They're one stop away on the trains to be here in five minutes. Yeah you hear the bass back to back back. It's like a series of saying the same thing for people to where you're like okay cool Just let me know when everybody here and we'll let you know how long it will be okay. But they're almost here okay. Perfect is soon as they get here. Just come back and talk to me in in. It's funny I love it. I always take people's names down because the APP that we use it tracks amount of time that it's been so it's usually like like you'll see like the twenty minute mark and the people are at the bar like feverishly texting on their phone. Like where are you. What do you think people are really saying? When they're saying that they're around the corner? I mean I think people's friendly blind to ah every bit like this me. I feel like now too. Everybody's like oh almost. I'm fiber way. I'm almost there when in fact you're like at home choosing your shoes shoes but people do I think they do a lot of time really believe their friends. We'll come back and be like sorry. They told me they were close by on Mike. I totally get it. That's that's why we have this like like we do it this way because we know the people that are never actually where they're at right. One person was like my friend know. They're getting off the bus right now. It's right there okay. But it turned out that their friend was off of a different bus to walk to people are never say they are. There's also the other side of that were then and somebody else. A Complete Party does arrive and they get seated in the person's like well. I was here first but we only see completed parties. And that's why is because where's your friend right. It's important to have a rule that you don't budge from right. That's like it's huge. Yeah and that's what I even say to people. Sometimes I'm like look everybody else in this room right now. There are like five other parties waiting to be complete. How would you feel if I was telling you this? And then you look over in. There's one person sending waiting for another person. You are going to be mad at me right. That's why it's like important at least for me to always stick to the same thing but sometimes people don't get that either they have gotten. Have you gotten better at like. What is the right right? Level of firmness to to give people Well this is another like little manager trick that I like is like I make the host. Tell people things just because then if they have a problem with that then there's like another step okay to wear like if I'm telling you this and then you like want a second opinion and I ready am the second opinion. You know what I mean. Then you don't like call the host. John I am the manager. No but I think as long as you like continue you saying the same things and like us the same verbiage. That's like your best way to get out of those tickets with people sometimes. It's just a matter of literally repeating yourself. He as soon as everybody's here I can quote. You await we'll can you just tell us how long they'll be like no. I can't no telling what's going to happen now on the twenty minutes when your friend gets here but as long as you stay. I don't think you have to stay like say anything particularly firm so much like like just the same state again. You can just pop up to the bar and we'll get you seated as soon as everyone's here all right. Should we move on. Yeah what What about people who request extra stra chairs? Well anytime people like people do that too. They get there. They have a reservation and they're like like the hovering for four for five. Okay and then they'll be I like can we just have an extra which normally isn't a big deal but are because our tables like do Max out. Let's say you're nine people. Who can we just have to extra chairs? But it's like no no because then you won't fit at the table like we can just squeeze we're all friends roof but I've definitely seen situations where people like have aspirin extra chair and we give them an extra chair and then more people arrive at one table where people were literally just like secretly sharing chairs because at that point they were like well. We don't WANNA ask for another chair is probably the the thought process behind it. Yeah for sure here no way. Just sit under the table saying about people who are just sharing secretly sharing sharing servers coming to your aim. mm-hmm is and I was like let them live honestly because at some point. You're like all right if you all are comfortable sitting on the same chair. That's fine. What if it's a party of to like sitting across from each other and the two people sitting on the bench or a sorry? The person sitting on the bench is tiny and then another person comes in and they're all so tiny and they're like. Hey can we can. We just share this this side of the table to make it a three. But it's actually just a two people don't really ask those sorts of things you just look over and task. Ask One of those things. I wouldn't want to be involved in that decision making anyway because it's all right now. What now the big dude next to you has his big friend come and he's like third doing it and I have to be like yeah? But they're small that doesn't work long. Wait shaming somebody in a restaurant where they're trying to have dinner but my favorite is fire hazard. No it's not but it is like it's just like uncomfortable for the people next to you because then it's like if you're sitting on a bench and then all of a sudden people are just adding people like they're a little bit intruding on your insurance but my favorite is when two people are sitting at a table together and this typically happens like late at night and then they end up just sitting on the same side of the table just to to be close to each other. Yeah same size people. Just make out in front of the room hate that they just suck face yes or just like hold each the other which I honestly don't know what's worse when you're like it's like come on now and then like once food starts getting. They're always interesting because if people do either before the meal. You're like all right. What's going to happen when they start eating are they gonNA? Are they gonNA feed each other on this side of the table. What does happen or I mean? Different things typically people like will move move back but sometimes yeah people will just sit there or I've seen people try to turn their whole table. Make it no longer. No yes you see that happen. I've seen that happen multiple times. Just like wait. What moving our furniture? which happens a good amount this year? What is it? What kind of holding of each other at their resting their head and shoulders like the vibe in the whole room right well? That's the thing is that I wonder about this all the time because there has to be like a certain little. I always wonder what they're getting out of it out of out of the room seeing what's happening right because there has to be sometimes it's not even like making out literally just like Oh. Let me keep my arm around you and let me like hold your hand. They are not eating with. I've seen it's interesting. How the ways that people will figure out to still be in contact while having keep the connection would you serve or like what is the team? Say when there's like an aggressive. PDA situation. I mean. I think I'm the most dramatic about it. Just because I'm dramatic person like people kissing. I'm like Oh God oh look. They're making our but people will note it is and then you just kind of go about your job and to keep a keep an arm's but it's always awkward when you're going like you never go to that table without a reason you know what I mean like. How is everything thing so the better the more you live if you're running food to the table and they're like mid kiss what do you what do you do? Just wait in the window towards. Here's your Kliesch. Here's excuse me. Oh you won't make a joke about it. No I don't ever acknowledge the fact that people are getting like. Are you ever like if people are in a fight or something or will you ever call it out. Will you ever call anything out that you Z.. Different than not arguing. That's like that's something that I've seen a lot of lately. I don't know it's in the air springs happening out of this. Get Out of this relationship. I got in for the winter but typically probably real. Yeah no I don't date people this I don't know I don't know what's real no so people will be like packing up their food like before. It's all done in the world. Come up like hey just a you know. Like I didn't just drop the check check on them like they're in a huge argument So they're just getting get out of here. Oh the servers worried that you're gonNA think they prematurely dropped servers like thinking that because I will be like if I see a check on table with like food so being like different things but now we have a pretty good level of communication where everybody's like. Hey here's what's happening or hey this or that uh-huh especially with dishes that Winston where people always want to hang onto like the empty bowl so you like. It's yeah exactly always it's like you'll try to take a clam bowl all in you'll get like I've had somebody to hit my hand before like multiple times and I'm like okay. You have literally like like with no no no just with their hand like a smack like wow what do you say to that. I just love chuckle and I'm like Oh you wanNA hang onto that. Yeah and I'm like I feel it. What thus when I was just thinking about getting my hand hit I also just think about people who like get too comfortable with you get too comfortable servers servers or just everybody in general? There's a it's not it's always like visiting parent like what's your name. What's your name your name? I didn't say this all the time. People who ask people's names use their name like people don't just ask people's names so that when they leave they come back all right buyer. Thank you all dinner. Long they're going to be like Erica. Okay Hey Erica eye. Eric is back. Yeah no literally in trig. WHO's the Shelvin ever wins? And we'll be like like he'll have bigger people coming in and everybody calls Me Rico. And he'll be like he'll tell people. Oh Yeah we'll rico will be. There in multiple. Times are group's of like old like people from like Virginia being like where's Rico. My Gosh because it's really like a name like a nickname that came came from like not alike professional place so having my old people being like Rico Cues Me Rico. Yeah how does it make you feel bill. It's just funny to me. I'm like yeah. Let's guys I thought what you're GonNa say it was like when When the chef comes over and he's like Oh yeah Eureka will be with you soon? They're like like Rico. Rico are you talking about our Erica. Yeah like they already know Erica. We know her. That's Greek. We'll we'll speaking of that. Let's talk about people who are. Let's talk about people who say like. Oh We'd love to say thank you to the chef. The intention is good. Maybe but what. How does that make you feel as manager? I mean that's one of those things where it's like all right because especially at Winson like we don't like we're the way that the kitchen is set up and like the business level is like he's not gonNA come out here and be able to talk to right right so like like. Maybe when I started slammed yeah and I think when I started there was more of like a there's just so much nuance to everything that when I started I'd go back and be like Hey table three would like to meet you and say thanks. But it's like they're right there in the shit for now it's like Oh yeah let me. I'll go we'll see what's going on back there and then I come back and I'm like ooh he's super busy but he does say like he does appreciate the acknowledge. Whatever you know But do you get people who WanNa take photos with the show. I just see that on instagram. All the time people who are like we. Can we grab photo with the chef. I love it when that happened. I love like going out on my way to make it so that it can happen. Because like like trig doesn't like who doesn't want to do it but I love like just making it happen to I have in my phone so many pictures of pictures being taken to the point where I've even like it's really funny to me because tricks kind of awkward dude with that Shit Too. Yeah we're like he'll be like people on the side like they get a couple more a little bit like became a little bit of a joke at one homeboy. Yeah no we can make this happen give us a couple of minutes but some people also wait in Zombie like I need this table. You GotTa get out picture have have them like wait outside and be like well this when we can. They're just like on the Corner Yan summertime. I'M GONNA use that all right so I guess that brings us to Instagram something. We talked about got a lot but like what what is instinct. What is people Graham in food to you these days and it's whenever you see that light box come out career like all right cool? I'm going to let the hosts know that this table is going to be a little longer for real for real like the light box by the way is the secondary light source. The people will hold its like usually the size of a second cell phone. Yeah and they'll hold it above their food just to get that real good lighting like bring a fucking full studio Jio lighting setup. I've seen people bring lots of like. Yeah what's the most expensive lighting multiple lightboxes. I mean I've seen like a tape like tables with multiple label people with their lightboxes or like now. I'm seeing more often because people are catching onto the light box. Like people just like wrapping a Napkin around their phone. So if you need a little time I did that. I was kind of cool wrapping up with someone. WHO's an obsessive who likes food photos? I feel like you're trying to help them and help them out. But also like I think I can help get it done sooner. Yeah okay is that fine. I mean that's farming sent. Yeah Yeah let's do this. We're GONNA take this picture. Let's take it. Let's get it right. Yeah good mm-hmm but also it's funny because then you'll have people using like you can just tell the the real from the pretend and like old people are more like grabbing their candles. Take a picture but if it's like a four top three of them have lightboxes. I'm for sure going to the host and being like do not expect this table back in the normal amount of time. What stretch out your quote time even if it's just fifteen minutes like for the next four top to be able to get that table because people argument take longer because you've got to think they're not starting to eat their food cold? Yeah like they're like Oh let me just take twelve pictures yes We had one person. Put the food on the ground and I was like hero but do you though this York right. People don't realize how dirty everything is like. Yeah we mop this floor we keep the restaurant like pretty clean lean but still one service stars. People are in and out the door from the streets all the time have you. Has Anyone asked for like ridiculous of Mike Seating changes or something to accommodate instagram. Well we have one table that like yields like that just takes the best pictures. Yeah it's the front corner and you have to windows of full of plants in a Lazy Susan and you're just going to get better and during the day you're getting natural light there so so just you're going to get way better pictures I've had to tops asked to sit there and it's like a table for like seven to eight. Can we sit there. And I'm like I literally one guy. Oh my gosh okay now with instagram. You're going to have people being like well. I have this many followers on instagram. Yeah in one guy had like it's like this might be a little Louis. If it had like three thousand dollars I was like. I'm sorry sir. That table is actually reserved for one hundred thousand followers than above like literally of course not. I thought our after the conversation because I was like dude. You can't becoming out here trying to flex your three thousand eight hundred ninety nine followers hats. Four thousand yeah but like also just sit at a table for two there are two of you the host was like A. He says he has a lot of followers. Dude just stick to the program because also like I don't like to even do like at the door or at least I don't really like to do too much special stuff for even people that like you can like. This is New York like sure. You're GONNA see a celebrity come in but like I'm not going in a mess up anybody else's wait to accommodate somebody just because I think that like sure. Oh you're cool Sarah Jessica. Parker comes in. I'm going to get her in as soon as I can without how anybody else go above their weight. That's anybody could like Riana. Could Reenact Obama Barack Obama can. I'll shut down everybody out. No that'd be I mean that's somebody who calls ahead I don't think I would ever surprise but But if we came in I'd still be like sorry I'm sorry are- I told this person hour and fifteen and it's been our and you're gonNA have to wait. Yeah I mean I don't believe you but we can move on but people we'll do love to try to flex on the host and when the restaurant I open like being like oh well trig here like met a lot more I think now as he gets. It's more like people know his name when they think of Winton. They know that they're so like the host will be like he's they say trig and I'm like just doing a little yeah that's me from the back of the restaurant. I try to keep my distance in case they are like. Oh Erica. It also happens. I'm like you I can actually do anything for you. Yeah that's I mean as much as I love everybody pretty firmly to the rule of like I'm not going to mess up somebody else. Other weird flex moves that people have on the host. I mean for the I actually recently got my first ever. I Know Erica. Nice Nice which I was like like A. She's like the this isn't the door knows you so we should say like this is after they would get quoted like. Oh yes yeah you always get you never just come in you you come in and you find out that the way it's two hours right and you're like well actually i. I know there's always a will actually. Actually that's the that's the that's the move that everybody does is you. Don't just out of the gate say automatically start flexing you're like Oh oh it's going to be that long. Are you sure. Well what about what about this flex. So what about provide told you do you ever. I mean I'm sure at some point. Do you have to say like we're actually not taking any more for the night. Yeah but we'll do usually do like We can put you on but we can't ensure that you'll get a table but the people drop off anytime that you're getting like the other day we had like twenty two tops on the weight and it's like eight o'clock we're close at eleven but if you get somewhere I eight o'clock and they tell you two and a half hours. What are the chances are? You're actually going to wait those two and a half hours and come in and you could go get a meal somewhere right back. I which like. Hey maybe that is what you do. Maybe you get quoted three hours and you go get a Deli Sandwich. I think that's a good takeaway for people which is that If you get quoted two who hours at eight. It's probably only going to be an hour. No I don't want that to be the takeaway because that's another thing that people will be like. Oh Yeah right doc or people will literally like you know so many times people have been like in this is the wildest thing to me is. I'm like why would you say that because we will be like and this has happened to me so many times. So if you're somebody who said it's not about you people will be like well. I don't believe that so. Go ahead and put me down. See I'm usually like okay. Okay well what's your name number. They're like I've heard that before. Yeah last weekend it was only this long and I'm like the only thing is that what you do you have the takeaway is is that we have to quote on. WHO's on the way? Of course I I've caught in a couple host being like we'll probably this one people drop off and I was like Yo. I've seen the weight go all the way through many a time. Where you're like? Please drop off please shroff. I no one's ever going to be upset that they waited less time. People are only going to be like you quoted me two hours and it's three three hours now than that I usually we we That's another thing that is a big part of my job is like puzzling together. The room to make sure that that it doesn't happen like I don't want anybody going more than five minutes over there. I don't want to be going over there at all right like five minutes starting to like stress out all right. What am I going to due to move this around James this like sometimes we're host that can be like I can be a little overrated? I'm like all right. No here's what we're going to come back three minutes later. I thought I thought about gotTA differently. This is what we're what. What are your moves? How do you actually do it because you like any any place? You're pro like going to have like flex tables right until like tables that if I want to can sit sit three people or four top. Five people We have a attendant tables in the basement. Sometimes weekend I'll be like I'm gonNA bring up another two adopt connected to this other two top top right because I've five a little bit of flexibility. Yeah but if people do get over there wait. I'll usually like go up to them in this kind of segues goes into. The next topic is at the bar and say they're like fifteen minutes over there. Wait I'll be like. Hey you guys like. Do you have any food allergies restrictions and I'll like have the kitchen send out like cucumbers or something. Thanks that while they're like looking over the menu because at this point they're like Hungary and that's what I think that's why people are so mean to hosts 'cause they're like starving in a host is the the only person in a restaurant who tells you know like everybody else Holy Shit. Yeah Yeah I think about that all the time. That's the only like my job is to figure out ways to say yes to people we'll in whatever that means in the host is literally the only person who's like boom that's the only get in the whole place. Yeah everything else. We're just here to make nick make sure you have a good time. But then usually people like hit their table like say fifteen minutes late and you hit him with a light snack. They're like well thank you boss. This is really going to tide me over until you know so you can think about the menu. This episode is sponsored. 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All things said peanut which is still like sometimes the case but people will you have like one on like. There's many different types of allergy people. There's like the person who who is super open about their Allard who I am allergic to this. This and this and this you're alright perfect. Let me go through the menu. Explain to you just like whatever it is that you can't eat that's my my mom and then they're like well. Can we not just take it out of this dish. And you're like no and they're like well it's more sensitivity so I'll just risk it and you're like all right sure and then there's also the people who have like who are like deathly allergic to things who you're like allergies and they're like yeah I do and you're like what's what are. What are you allergic to? And they're like don't don't worry about it. Yeah and you're like no I have to worry about it. Come on out here. You know within ten feet a peanut eaten here before I know it. I can't uncanny and you're like so these people who are trying to be accommodating actually makes it more difficult will yeah and then you have to you. You have to figure out the allergy regardless give a server came up to me and was like Hey table. Five has an an unknown allergy. That they won't tell me I'd be like word really because then I'm going to go over and like make Jerry. Yeah let's get Lucy. No light light bullying shame it works. That's how I get everything on everybody. Make a couple of jokes. I'm like hey here here. You have an allergy. They're like yeah. I'm like okay cool. What like let's say? I have a hidden allergy. You come over. I'm like hey thanks for coming over I know. Don't worry I've eaten here. I know the menu really. Well you don't have to worry about it would you. What would you do? You can do like the like phone line. We've actually recently made changes so no but usually like you can literally do explain people. Okay I understand that but like you know. I don't want you to die here or aggressive that way like okay well in that okay so you do you have your Epi pen with you. Because I don't like we don't stop. Yeah I don't have any. I just used it yesterday on the guy who tell me what his allergies good. Yeah that's a good one it also they don't realize like sometimes it's like it's like the level in a small kitchen. cross-contamination is a thing gluten allergies who like if the flowers in the air. Yeah and that's like seal EAC or whatever but still what are bar line cutters. Oh yeah that's on my list to actually. Yeah those are the people who go. Who like you have a fully fully? You have like a double to deep bar in people go off to the side to the past servers. Pick them drinks in like just stare at the bartender tinder. And they're like ooh CAN I. Can I order with you. And one of our vendors. I love him but sometimes I have to be like Yo I just need you to like like chill a little bit because they'll literally like Yep I'll be with you in just a minute but there is a line. If you'd like to step over there then you can get behind the eight other people who are waiting to order a drink assassin. No He is Super Sassy which is like there's like a playful line to tread with that because like also there are like this is where we we walk through to get to the kitchen bring food and do all this so it's like not a good place to be anyway but another way to is like or your drink and of course the bartenders like working on it but you have a list of things you're doing all the time they'll be like oh I actually ordered a drink in like this particular partner will be like oh I know but just three other people ordered before for you so as soon as I'm done with that I'm going to get right to yours. Wow but everybody's like people it's happening on like a loop all night. I don't know if it's that people think I think the service pass is a part of the bar wouldn't do that to me. I think you can see it. Two ways I think you can also see it like airport security lines where go in the shortest just line okay. Yeah right like if people aren't seeing that there is a space in the bar to order. But I think in this case you're saying that they're sneaking around to a place where they should not be standing. Yeah a little bit but I think with the with if you compared to airport security. That would be like a place where they're like multiple bartenders. I guess I see what you're saying also like I'm not going to lie and say that I don't go to a bar and look for the interest access. Yeah and try to get my drink before people are before me all the time and usually I just do it off charm. Sit there looking. But also that's the other thing is like the icon adding of the is. That's what I do at the bars I go and I like just look at people in blink a lot I feel like my. I'm either really good at it or really bad at it and and nothing feels worse. I then I'm like I got this. I've got the lane to the bartender right now. I've lock is I'm like over here and then it just walks right by me and I'm like fairly. I thought cool laugh at him. He relaxed like all right. I have is attention. I look around at all the people with like your boy got you drinks exc next topic. Oh this is a simple one but people who aren't ready to order. Yeah well I feel like we have the exact same listing testing. We probably do. Yeah yeah those are the. That's you can always tell who's not ready to order to excuse me. We're ready ready. Oh yeah and I'll be like especially especially as the managers and quiet confidence amongst people who are ready to order and they will never tell you here. They're ready. Yeah you can tell I always just like set my menu down. Yeah I feel like a good body language to be like we. I'm good I'll give you the shit I do after this but you can always you're saying like you can always tell we'll know and especially like as a manager because I am walking around a lot of people will be like excuse me. Excuse me We we're ready to order in all kinds of like look around to see because because a Lotta Times like their server is on the way in which I'll be like perfect game in two seconds. I'll grab your server but if I see the servers like at a large table I'm GonNa take the order because I'm like you're ready now in. They're likely going to be at that table for a while. And it's always like it's ninety percent of the time the same thing where people are like like so you know what you want to their friends like. No you go first and I'm going to do and I do this all the time to. I'll have two things I'm thinking about and I need a little pressure to decide by no Ugandan friends like okay well. How many dishes do you think we should? I'm like okay so you just don't know you want it all okay. Okay but I can say that to argue. That may be a fair first question. No that's super fair. First question but the intro to it is hey we have a couple of questions. Yeah Yeah not excuse me. We're ready to order right now. And we're our T. G. by the way we have a couple of questions so that's usually the follow up. Which is fine? I can answer in many questions all day. Long they're like okay. How many dishes you tell them proxy give them whatever what do you like and this is something else? Yeah that I've that like anybody who works in the service industry has probably honed in on is. I don't give recommendations without first being like okay. Do you have any food. Food allergies are dietary restrictions. Half the time. They're like Vegan who also is allergic to nuts. Because no seriously you're like oh my favorite thing or the pork funds and and they're like Ooh okay what else and you're like also the beef role and they're like but what if I'm a Vegan. What if you'd open for that you know but yeah so I was asked that I because night like whenever I don't? They're always Vegan happen to me like last weekend. I just went straight in because I was a little in a rush. I say when I ask I mean I'm I'm an Oscar. My rule with myself is I'm down to say I'm down to say what should should I get. As long as I accept every suggestion they give me okay. Yeah that's also a classic thing is to ask for things and then they go a completely different routes. You can't do that. You describe like five dishes and then you're like I'll go with the chicken finger. Yeah especially if you're like which do you prefer between the like the chicken or the beef and then you're like all all the beef. I had it today. I love that thing so much and they're like chuck. I'm going to get the chicken like no but even that is in my opinion like fair just because it's like you know that was what you needed. You were able to decide on your like you know what I mean because you knew the chicken right. Yeah well because I'm that way like all read things but what also happens like what should I get the chicken or the beef and then they literally go and get an entirely different item that they didn't ask you though is like all right cool cool and it doesn't bother you. I mean you can't let any like nothing really bu I I can re- rant about a lot of things but at the end of the day I'm like I'm GonNa go home and they've made their art. You're going to go home. You'RE GONNA love it regardless of what you have and then I'm go home and I'm going to try not to think about how long I spent explaining every dish on the media. All right last last one the guy who The Guy who knows everything about out all the food that hits the table You're nodding know that like I feel like that's probably everywhere but like especially working at like a Taiwanese American restaurant. There's always somebody who just got back from Taiwan. But they're like a like a regular white dude like not to say that it can't be irregular anybody but yes yeah of course or they've been here been somewhere a bunch of times so they like. That's kind of like in the same vein as people being like are you knew decided I just want to like a server and this like basically like suggesting that they know the menu better. I don't know how funny that is. Real like Oh because that's happened multiple times recently where people are like. Oh this is or they like when you're dropping food off you'll be like oh here's the whatever and there's somebody at the table like. Oh you guys. This is the And then they let go into a deep like they like describe the dish in. Maybe they're even wrong happening today. Where somebody WHO's wrong and I was like it? It was odd table of nine and it was like one guy who's really showing off and I like really weighed my options of actually did you say it. Now it's like I just chuckled. Because he wasn't like going to harm anybody him being wrong. You know what I mean and I was like you know. I'm just GonNa let him with his life because at the end of the day I'm going to come off worse being the like. ooh Sir actually. You're completely wrong about that. He was living. He was a good night. He was like you know when you're on like you're at a table at dinner and everything you say lands killing to know it was him. I was in step on that. I've been there and I felt that what you don't want some random person who's like just coming in stepping on your it could have been the pivotal moment. Pivotal turning point in his whole existence. Now went from good to bad craig. I like create a monster. He's Ho no. He's like mad at the lady who corrected him for being wrong. That's a whole nother story. That got a little creepy. Ed Out of Weird podcast. I just thought they all they all have that moment. Oh what is the networker. Oh is that on the list. I mean mean that can be any of the people who are like shaking hands with the meeting the other tables. Yeah you do that to you don't you. You were in wins on having dinner. Her got offered dessert from the table. Next to you chop it. I don't think that was networking so much as just like you. Yeah you it remember. What the with the sparkler at the table and it was a homemade cats? And you were looking for them. That's friends and have some dessert and you didn't even want didn't want her to know. Yeah it's different. I'm saying people who are like give me give me your car. Don't call you on Monday. I Don I see people trying to make friends a lot. People are offering people offer the tables next to them their food. I Long Time I love that I sometimes it does it. Feels very communal. Gives you an opportunity to try more food. It tends you just want to bite of something. Yeah but also dearly want to offer the person who's looking at your food by your food like how I've never. I've never offered somebody's food. I don't know what the circumstance with between me and you yeah. Circumstance is that someone see. Here's the thing you offer someone. Someone a buddy your food and then they're probably gonNA have you already eaten off of this food though like if it's a fresh plate I'm probably a no then. I'm definitely want the first bite. I'm assuming no because does that. Seems like it's like weird. They really like you just think like restaurant. Experiences should be more communal. I don't necessarily WanNa the same tables everyone else but I like to share. I've been waiting for the day that I go out somewhere in the wait for two is like dumb long in the wait for four is like no way and there's like a two top next to me and I'm like you guys WanNa have dinner. We sit and have dinner. Yeah Great Yeah I been waiting for it. We'll see I made people people do that the other day. I didn't make people do that the other day but I was like look. Here's the deal I this table you guys are three. You guys are too. It's going to be a really long wait but if you guys want we can play at one table because they were both really cool people that like I personally involved with so I was like. Oh probably vibe. With each other in one of the girls in writing whole yelp review about it like it was amazing. We got to sit with the strangers. Well but also like that's a very specific situation you can't be parent anybody to get no but I could tell that they were GonNa Really Love Vibe. Yeah they were being loud. How hard can you vibe? As a yelp though I've never written view I'm not surprised about that all right. Well thank you so much for coming by the studio completely. Some of this is funny at least thirty. Five minutes of it is funny. Okay Hey thank you so much for listening to up sell. Hope you enjoyed this episode with Eric Hall of Winston Taiwanese American Restaurant in Brooklyn. If you did please make sure to subscribe to the show on whatever platform platform you use. Maybe throw it a star to five stars and shoot us an email about anything at upsell at eater DOT COM We will be back next week with food stories. That's not true. That's into East what we'll do next week In this episode was sponsored by seed. Flip if you're looking for a complex non alcoholic spirit to enjoy while you're not drinking siedle. has you covered. See Lips. Three varieties of still non alcoholic. Spirits are celebrated by world world class chefs and bartenders. 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So get you thinking caps on what we just set the scene for twenty nine seen, well, Mercedes and Lewis Hamilton that's been the story of the past few years, he expecting the same again this year carino's, you think Ferrari can cause an upset. Well, I think we look at the last do season certainly twenty eighteen Sebastian veteran Ferrari had the car and speed capable of winning the world championship. I think arguably 2017 as well, if you'd think about it, you know, yet is moment of older age in. New. He had the accident of the style to Singapore. And then we had Singapore Malaysia to racism Noto with Rory had reliability problems. So if three of those four even they sold themselves out federal would win the world champion, not Lewis and certainly twenty eight hundred you know, there's five or six hours that we sell from Sebastian. So the issue hasn't been the speed of the car for all you have to call fast enough to just have an completed the job so Louis and Mercedes have done an amazing job over the last few years, the head into twenty nine thousand nine with a lot of momentum and therefore make themselves the favorites unquestionably. But I'd like to see what Ferrari can deliver. And also what can red bull Honda? Do you know for many years, we've been waiting to see one hundred can do and you and I both seen the last third of last season. We're starting to see signs on me. That Honda the engine the upgraded and brought to Suzuka showed both. Ause and Q three. We saw a little hint of it in in Austin megacity was P seven and q on and then didn't do their secession. So we're starting to see signs at Honda's making breakthroughs and. Now with red bow and told her also go full 'cause with the free flow of information in the same family rebuilt technologies, and that could be really good for for fans and for Formula one if we can have three teams fighting for the championship, really good. But all you predicted. He was going to happen. Will we see three things genuine title fight? Ask me after preseason testing cheating going to be a pundit the oracle. You know, these things we haven't seen anything yet. Heavy. So we, you know, until we actually see the cows Ron and until we go rule changes as well for next year. So let's wait and see. Yeah. I'd like to think that momentum means that all you're going to have a competitive call it again. So yes, I think we let least have two teams in the fight hopefully third, of course, we're not far away from long season. I even to excited about seeing what they come up with whether it's at the front further down the order. Well, I mean the stories up and down this year because we've had such an amazing time with the silly season. Drivers moving it on Canada rano give Daniel recount to car that's capable of finishing on the podium. What about MacLeod and Williams they've had a tough season. Think Formula one needs to have McLaren and Williams competitive, these are two very historic and historically significant teams in the sport and the part of the DNA Formula one, you know, I grew up in an era where McLaren and Williams will the two most dominant teams if you told me they'd be a phase where they were the last four on the grid. There's no way I would have bet on it. But it did happen last year. And I'd like to see them move. It up, but. Further up the front Charlotte clerk, what can he do? You know? That's a fascinating story against semester. Metal because I think I think look closer deal. I think he's he's seriously good is, you know matches. Anything you've seen before formula two champion GP three champion Macau podium finisher. And he's brilliant junior formula and did a great job at salvo. So I'd love to see how that plays out next year as well this year. Well, now warmed up, let's say there's any questions on the floor. So I said incentive always saw the best questions. Tickets to the silver sudden experiences family ticket so adults to children new exhibit opening in spring this year. So I raise your hand any questions for Korean about the fun season even about his glorious iphone career. What's it like to finish fourteenth in a grand prix? That's a good one. Do you think the new wing will help overtake him? I don't think unfortunately, he's going to do as much as people were hoping for the I think the rate of development from the teams and the amount that they were able to move the cars on. Yeah. It on your means that they've already pretty much recovered the downfalls now for what they had Inaba w which means by dummy get development, they are going to be followed ahead. So unfortunately, is sort of a stop-gap solution. It would you say I think the idea being for twenty twenty one looking at a big change which to dramatically alter the rules and really make change overtaking. This sort of like a a half-hearted stopgap. I think isn't it. I've taken some of the findings of the more in ductwork and try to do some easy tweaks in the short term so laudable in that regard twenty twenty one probably the you've gotta be excited about a very good question. I think we'll we'll open the book on on the price tickets there. So the end of the the end of the podcast recording head ran the side. And we take also go to question. Give them furry prints propensity to back one driver ABC show, competing. Well, I don't exactly the fact that Ferrari didn't back one driver is. I think one of the big mistakes they made last year you look at Hockenheim, and you had Kimmy in front set behind and said sort of stuck there and getting frustrated and upset he's on fresher tires, and they spend ages dilly dallying with Kimmy trying to get him out of the way. And eventually, it was Kim you came on the radio just tell me what you want, and they move out of the way, and he did the next corner, but said lost five or six seconds. I think in that point. And that was a phase where Lewis was coming at him. You know, the rain started come down is getting bam and eventually said made a mistake. So. And then you go to Monza. And that's the most obvious mistake is one they allowed Kimmy to have the slipstreaming qualifying with just seems extrordinary. And to on a day where they need Kimmy support on race day. They acted on race day morning instead of saying I'll tell you just move the side of the first chicane, let's through didn't you could play Rio Ghana then sacked him. So I don't agree. I think the fact that they didn't support one driver is actually partly why they lost the world championship last. You. So yeah, let's just see. I mean, obviously, it's all changed now because of very recently but last week Maurizio event has been good for him. This is gone now from Ferrari, so we'll just have to see what the new philosophy and the new management is putting in place while we're gonna we're gonna decide who gets the final few tickets. Surely, I want some really competitive questions so really won't be able to fight for this. And other question down his army. What do you think that is going to happen with Ferrario when Murray gone now, they're going to be more competitive? They're going to what they're going to do. They're going to put like Charles on the second driver, or well, as I said, I don't know what the, you know, how they're going to structured it in desert having a number two number one number two driver. We'll have to see how that plays out for me. The bigger question is Mantia Benneteau who's now taking over. He was obviously the technical leader that team and nowadays, none of these people are individually, creating the whole car that all technical organizers and clearly one thing they did very well in the last two years is built a quick car. They had a very competitive car. Arguably, I think when you look at some stats said, I think we sold it worked out there were twelve races where Ferrari had a quicker car. I'll give me the Mercedes last year. So. You know, that wasn't a problem. But being the technical leader of a team is twenty four seven job. And now you do wonder if he's going to also be team principal. That's also a twenty four seven job. And if you look across F one for every strong technical leader, they also had a strong team principal, but on Dennis and John Barnard. Oh, Frank Williams. Patrick Head Adrian Newey Christian. It doesn't matter which team. There was always a good foil for a technical leader and a team principal. And now you have to see if he's taking his eye off to technical stuff. Have they got the structure there that that means that the caused are going to suffer and how are they going to bolster that side of things? I think that's going to be the key surely Ferrari, I've got a plan you'd like to think a team of that organizational mass have people that they can put into place, but it remains to be seen and really the proof will be in the pudding. It's very hard to judge the first four races because. You know, we've go Melbourne, which is a street, silky it slightly slightly odd layout funny. Campbell's in the road. We go barring which is quite hot, and very real limited China, which is very front limited. And then back which is just a wild street race. So really you kind of have to judge the first four aces on the whole. And so when we get to Barcelona, that's when I think we'll start to see really where the pecking orders, I should also mention of mobile and each for how to take turned three on outlet. No, there's a question on the wall. How do you can be raccoons going to perform it Salvin ex you well, he seems really motivated, and I mean, you should know is the leader of the salvo fan club or the UK he's the biggest Salva fan. But he I mean, he looks really motivated doesn't it to go there? And I think salve will benefit hugely from having him. I do think Ferrari did the right thing because I think in the future, and he's he's he's young enough to have a long career. They could be there. For ten years and really build a team. But from Sabas standpoint, it's fantastic. Because they've got a guy who's been on pole position one grand prix and one podiums and had podiums of the last year. It's a real cool really for them, isn't it? He's going to have so much experience and knowledge of a top team. And he seems really pumped up put it. Brittany. Clearly, he does still enjoy it. So I think there'll be some good storylines from him during the course of the year. I mean, he's huge populace with the fans, and sometimes I wonder why I mean when we go to China. I remember standing the pit lane when he came out the pits to go to the grid. The grandson was full and the grandstand just erupted. He's probably never said a word to these people the grandstand. They've, you know, but he is unbelievably popular, and I think it's still good to have him on the group unquestionably going man, I think that's what people like about him questions that we can find on. What did you think about the Verstappen ghastly combo this coming year? How do you see that working out? I think it's going to be interesting to see how strong and competitive gasoline Leah's do rate. Ghastly, I think again formula two champion very good in go karts in his younger days, and he did a good job Portoroz. So you saw you saw flashes of very strong performances Budapest barring you know, what he's good points. And it was very competitive. I think max is a bit like Michael is in the Benetton days. He's dominant figure who you know, like all all the crew greats. Whether it was Louis Michel center process. You know, they dominate the team and max is is one of those characters how copes with that sort of dominating personality. It will be interesting to see him. But and the thing is with the grades. They've got the talent and ability to back it up. I mean, max, Jen. Genuinely the rebels competitive enough. He is genuinely ready to be a world championship contender. If you look at everything he did from Canada on woods last year. He was fantastic. He was absolutely fantastic. And he's he's shown now, I think he's got the maturity and the confidence to match his talent to be world champion. So it's a tough challenge for gasoline but gas don't underestimate him because he's a he's a sharp cookie as well. You know, he's he's actually racing Japan. And he's had quite a bit of experience in junior formula. He's actually quite I think he's got more maturity than he Babs let's out. He's he's a really methodical mature character. Who's mentally tough enough to deal with it? I think he's also one of those drivers who always impresses me from trackside, particularly if you go out and F B one as we both often littered around trackside watching he's always aggressive, but not overly aggressive. He gets on the pace very very quickly, which is something Mexican do. So I think as a little place, and I think those who may be on the rest of my peer gasoline keeping on Maxwell Stephens, a great drive about here is going to be interesting so far. So India was bought out by Lawrence stolen, then lunch with Broughton. Do you think he wants to see that? I mean, it's I think what was really hard to judge. What launched did in the last couple of years? If you look at twenty seventeen he was up against a Philippi Massar who was sort of on his way out of f one and then brought back so hard to create a reference and the last year is against sarokin who was a complete rookie. And again, you had no different. So I think it's I don't know what what you think it. But I think it's quite hard to actually judge. What where stroll is at and this year, we will get a chance to 'cause Perez. We know there's been pretty much an equal, Oaklawn points wise for the last couple of seasons. So and Peres is now being an F one for a few years. He was you know, he's a head of Hawkin bug and their use of force India. So now, we have an established benchmark I think for for stroll, we get to see sort of where he's I think he has to deliver doesn't make Peres is a very good barometer. So I think we will see what launch strolls about he's turned in some good performances as well. We should remember last year, for example, very strong in qualifying go points in a difficult situation. So there's something about. Needs to get consistency though. That's the that's the key question. And I think there's a couple of questions here to the right, but just to finish up. I think it's very easy for people to be dismissive of people who were struggling in the back in difficult year. There are no bad drivers Formula one you could take any of those drivers and stick them in in a Lamar Olympia one or in a DM KADO Indy-Car even and with a bit of testing and a bit of practice if they in the right team. They will be right up. There really aren't any bad drivers. In formula. One thing is sometimes it's easy for people have to forget that point of going Troy fry shots. No attack on motor earlier. If you would spoil the drive at the sub drivers into the same cows. Who'd you think would actually win? If you and I think that's part of the fun of what we do. And we ranked the drivers you'd have to say based on twenty eighteen you'd have say Lewis was your number one just because he didn't make any mistakes up to an also when it comes to kill three. He mal said it last year, and I think he's absolutely right. There's that it hasn't been a driver better than than Lewis in qualifying since I center. When it comes to kill three. You get one lap. Once at a time you go to deliver it he's got that amazing field particularly on the brakes. He pick seeds Zach breaking point. You coming down the long straight, and it's very hard to do these days. Econo- underestimate thou because Peretti times often they have to do a slow out lab. The brakes on up to temperature the tires aren't necessarily in the right temperature. But you get down to that. I happen and Louis Pixar. I breaking point fantastically world, and that sets him up and Mercedes. No, there's a tenth and a half two tents the in the guy in the cockpit. And I think ultimately, that's that's the end of the he won eleven races and bought us one zero. Okay. Valerie should've went back. Oh should have one Sachi possibly borrowing possibly China debatable? But in reality, even if you say you live in two nine two, it's still a big disparity. And I think ultimately, that's what it ends up. I'm Jay Farner, CEO of Quicken Loans, America's premier home purchase lender. We've created a new way to protect you from unpredictable interest rates are. Our exclusive rate shield approval. I we lock your interest rate for up to ninety days. Then if rates go up your rate stays locked. But if rates go down your rate drops either way you win. Call us today at eight hundred quicken or go to rocketmortgage dot com, racial approval. Only valid on certain thirty year fixed rate loans. Call for cost information and conditions. Equal housing lender. Licensed in all fifty states and MLS number thirty thirty additional conditions are exclusions may apply. I'll do see the way f o on word now when you go to be outside the car rather than when you're racing a says believe if one is the pinnacle of our sport. I'm a traditionalist in that way. I still believe go up watching Formula one as being the dream. It was a top of the pile. Yes. You had splits cows, and lemon you have lee-ing. And I watched all of it. I was a huge fan of Carlos signs. Tell me makanin and people like that. But ultimately fomative on film, the one, and I still believe that it should be. I think things I formerly and. Wouldn't go to championship itself. They all have a place in this world. I mean, I I love him. Oh, I've done it five or six times is is the most magical race you could ever do. But ultimately Formula, one should be the pinnacle of our sport. And I think when you look at it today. It's it's still is fundamentally. It's got ten times motif you're ship than formally will anything is go eighteen times mole, social you think we would discussing just upstairs. Still go eighteen million people on social media could also all the platforms at a time a foam on really only opened up in the last eighteen months. So it's amazing the growth in that. So I still think there's a lot to offer fantastic drivers. And actually if you look at the last seasons the battle for the world championships in great, you've had two quadruple world champions, fighting it out and do the greatest teams. So I think it's been I think it's been good. How you write the chances of MacLeod Williams share do you think you'll be any better or just more of the same? Now you have to. Well, this is for you. You'll you'll know you have to be honest about Williams, even though you're Williams. Heritage drive. No. I mean in reality. There's no this dope. Watch never lies is. And I think that you just have looked at it as L sheets to find out who who was quick and who wasn't last year. So there's no hiding from that, frankly, you look at. I said it before I would never have believed when I started watching it fun Williams mccown and would have been between seventeen and twenty on the grid. But they will on occasion lost you. We'll have to wait and see mcnaughton. We'd take them. They've got different different sort of issues. Mcleod on seemed to give up on that concept of give up on the development of their conquest early on in the year. I think is a fair to say, you know, they couldn't find things they have some fundamental problems. Yes. It'll halfway through the season. They told let's get cracked on twenty nineteen. They knew it, obviously wasn't grateful financials mood, but. You know, he came up with some hilarious statements off towards about every lap became his best able qualifying lap and every race was his best ever race. But. But in reality they they won't having a great season. They seem to think they've got a concept that needs to be different. Obviously the called the rules are different anyway. But I'll be interested in that pans out Williams have taken made it both teams made big changes haven't they because McLeod and have James qui coming. They've got a new boss. Andrea CDL join them just last week Williams as well. You know, this call was done by Duke and a few other people and they've had a big change as well. It would has gone the chief designer so both teams have had a lot of reshuffling and really it's impossible for us to standard and say how they're going to get on Nitin. None of nobody in this whole or in all of these holes would have predicted what a tough season McLeod him Williams would have had there's no way based on two thousand seventeen there's no way we would have said that they would have had such about you. But they did and none of us ever Cristobal. So we can't predict it. I think it's one of those. Things that we have to manage the expectations. They're not going to get back so Williams and McLaren traditional level in a year. But a good year football would be just a gentle step forward. Things working make them good credible midfield performance, and that's your platform, and they're all really coming for twenty twenty one and the major role changes. Yeah. I think one thing for people understand is. Nowadays with f one the way the contracts will have really complicated. Let's say let's say Andrea Siedle is gone to McLeod. And he says I think we need to. A three or four key people from another team somewhere. But decides to approach them in hire them, they have eighteen months of gardening leave. So that's the unit half gone. Then my damn they join another eighteen months before they can have a really fact on the car, just three seasons gone and things just. People don't just change teams overnight anymore and have an effect anymore. It's just the way this boat is but as twenty twenty one presents that opportunity foot a complete reset. So if McLaren and Williams in twenty nineteen twenty twenty can make small steps and get themselves back into being in cute three regularly and then start knocking on the top six on occasion scoring points. But I clearly that reestablishes them in the midfield to be ready for the twenty twenty one. Questions some old on the front. Yeah. Basically, I'm historically. Florida drive is coming into quite a lot of pressure from the team the company is a hall actually the country and the funds as well. Would you say that Charles going into that team as character because you've met him as well? Would you say he's going to do quite well with that? Would you think that something that could make him possibly make a mistake? So I mean, there's two things about Shawn. Which? I'll tell you from his past the first time I met him was in potently Mao in formula three race. And he was racing for team called venomous fold racing. My there's a kid that I manage was his teammate and the first three free practice session. I finish. And none of the three calls particularly quick and actually shot wasn't. He was actually the second note of the three three calls from the team. And I went to the back of the truck to when they're doing the debrief, and Sean was sitting there any and every engineer sitting around him and the other day, I was sort of just there the back of the truck polishing their helmet what's going on here. And he even that young age he managed to pull this whole from the three team around him. They just gravitated towards him and he established himself as a number one. This is the third in the season as a rookie is like he'd been around for you. So he's got a certain charisma, and he's got a. Certain. But. Personality where he's able to build a team around him in a way that a shoe Makoto to Hamilton the greats Verstappen is another one he gets loyalty from his engineers. And so I think that's that's really going to help him out. And ultimately, I think, you know, if you look at mental strength this kid he was even formula two and unfortunately, his father passed away and three days later, he came to back. Oh and won the race. And you just go that's extraordinarily. You're a teenager going through that sort of personal tragedy and trauma and then to go on a racetrack wheel to wheel and win a race in onto that sort of pressure. That shows his real mental strength. I think and so yeah, you know, obviously, being a young driver going to Ferrari will be difficult how they protect him from the media's is up to them. But he's been part of the family. They see him as. One of the we've seen them in the paddock. He's into salvo jump or whatever in the finale motorhome and having dinner with Manteo been onto people like that. So he's very much part of the furniture. He's bean powder furniture there. So hopefully predict him, and hopefully, they will they will allow them to flourish because you're absolutely right. No team is under pressure like Ferrario. You know, it's not I don't think it's quite like the days of the early ninety s where you'd have seven pages in La Gazzetta dello spotter, the newspaper there, which was all just about Ferrari. I don't think it's quite that level. Like it was in the early ninety s but it's still a huge amount of pressure from fans as well. Wherever we go in the world is still more Ferrari fans than than anybody else. Really? This is why we always talk about any formerly small the mental strength ability to we can out perform in the way as if it's not actually relevant. It doesn't matter. It's all go. Do what I do whatever the results as soon as you start worrying about it and feeling outside crushes. I was wrong much much easier to say than to do. Yeah. Absolutely. I mean, and that's why the great drive is good too. I was they don't have those peaks in Trump's able to perform consistently high level. I mean, that's what made Michael grade wasn't. It is Michael if you look at his career f one from from Ninety-one Bill two thousand six as take the first let's call it. The first career ninety one thousand six you can probably count on one hand how many off days he had. They seem to happen to the Chinese grand prix a couple of times and another couple of days, but Michaels level of consistent performances was just staggering. And that that was raised the bar. Didn't he that? I think all drivers these days a sort of trying to Spyro to very much. Very much anymore. Elsa questions given that Ricardo in Rockin and have not made moves to Salva and run I respectively. How'd you think this looks change teams maral, and so even performances in two thousand nineteen and even beyond for those teams? You mean? On salvo respectively. All very excited onto your question. About morale. I know certainly everybody in stone when the deal was announced because. It's not been a secret that the relationship between rhino and red bull has been a little bit fractious quite a bit of factories for the last few years. And I think them getting Daniel was almost like a rhino putting one over red bull for change. And certainly, I think they've very buoyant about it. They in some ways perhaps this year, the calm and the team and not quite ready to be there. I think you know, by their own admission, then all quite ready to be then I'm going to be championship contenders thing if they can get the podium, then they'd be very happy with that. But you know, for for everybody in the factory, and I know some friends who work there, and they said as soon as he came to see fit there's a real air of. You know, there's a good feeling about it. You know that came with him, and it's a fresh start not not that they had anything against Carlos. They they all really enjoyed working with Carlos. I think. They feel a breath of fresh air. And I think it's the same SABA and we've only talked about so go over it again. But certainly I think for those teams getting an alias driver. Is is a real cool real Troy with I can get behind us. Well teams like cook probably time for one more question. Maybe two we're lucky anymore on the end. Think mucks will coat with the engine that broke the spirit of finance. I think it's a very different engine. I think we have to be we have to be clear about it that, you know, financial obviously had a couple of difficult years with McLennan Honda but last season was Reynaud engine. And ultimately if you think about when he quit and left he decided halfway through the season when it goes on the Honda anymore. So. It is different and Honda have made made more progress. I think to the last season than they had over the winter almost if you look at. Think it's really hard to judge the exact numbers these it's not like the old days where you could go. Well, this this number of horsepower. That's the deficit nowadays with the system and the way they deploy the energy and the you have to you quantify horsepower engine and kilowatt self the yoda's hybrid is really hard to pick an exact number. You know, I've spoken to three people Reynaud who all believe the deficit to Mercedes to be three different numbers. So how long's the piece of string in some ways? They've all got sound analysis. They've got different ways to study the data. But ultimately, it's about guesstimates it. So I think it's a little bit unfair to say that. Yes. Those two years for financial into McLeod and believing the Honda project was going to elevate him to being world champion again. It didn't happen, obviously that massively destroyed his love for f one and his spirit. But I don't think that's the only reason it broke. Because ultimately, you know, he stuck it on food know you. Now, I think with Honda again. It's it's time. Isn't it? Everything. Now info minimum takes time. You don't get these magical steps that wants go back in the day you which just the nature of the beast. And I was yeah. We're not seeing revolution anymore. We're not seeing somebody wheel out the active suspension, twin chassis loaded Silva, these double diffusers, even on the back of a car. So good to expand on the back of big fan on the back of the exactly, you know, we're we're not seeing revolution anymore than effluent. I mean, think of calling Chapman in the Lotus forty nine. All of a sudden you've made the engine of stress member car. It's just transformed every race car. You see in this in this whole show. So we don't see that anymore. We ever Lucien and the smallest steps, and that's therefore it's harder for people to to make the steps of because they're all they're looking for small differences perfomance. It's not the not looking for this big Eureka moment anymore. Well, thanks very much for the question. Sorry. We couldn't keep going on many many good questions being also like the competition favored questions you want reward coronal show. I'm not getting involved in that. We'll say say it's tickets for the Silverstein experience a new exhibit. That's all you're putting in spring this year. So we've got a couple more first ticket we already and we'll go for the I was trying to think about the the full Scindia racing point question on stroller around. Now, you've let's give you nine monosso Williams. Mclaren question. Mclaren question, which is around here somewhere. I think so we have mobile yet. 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IoT-Retail Tech Converging Offline-Online Shopping

The Internet of Things (IoT) Show with Bruce Sinclai

1:01:54 hr | 1 year ago

IoT-Retail Tech Converging Offline-Online Shopping

"Uh-huh. Coming out on they say beside of the is e ink business show. Savar important information which helps with the both mobile on Oakland marketing activities and then LA brands and retailers can reposition the interior and the marketing activities improve and to direct the food traffic and physical behavior for a baton gauge -ment for to increase the twelve five degrees. The conversion rates from Besser as by the shoppers. It takes a lot. And I mean a lot to get me to download yet another app my phone, especially one that's gonna try to sell me something, but I hope in the retail IOT Tak not much of a physical shopper, probably because I find the whole shopping experience so dreary, but this so called offline online convergence within retail has peaked my interest in this episode of the business show has with Oleg positive about proximity marketing, and where it's headed with I t. Oh, this ams more on this episode of the I wrote see Inc. Business show. People the business, and that's hat -nology of the next generation internet. This is the I out see Inc business. And now, he's your heist Bruce anchor. Hello and welcome to the business show. This show is made possible by sales of my book. Hi, OT Inc. Published by McGraw Hill, and I o t inks certified IOT professional where I see I p online training and certification program become a certified IOT professional by completing the programs three courses. Hi, c I p technology I p business, and I say peace strategy and digital transformation the tails of which can be found at WWW dot IOT. Dash Inc dot com. That's WWW dot IO t dash I n c dot com. With me today on the IT show is make Posner Oleg is CEO and co founder of startling Tegla is over fifteen years of experience in IT companies dealing with embedded systems and working with IT since two thousand four prior to lean Tekere he's worked for several companies in the US Europe in Ukraine in the areas of telecom, smart, home, connected, car and location based services. Welcome to the show. Hi, bruce. My pleasure. So how's the IOT seen in Ukraine whale? I should say it is doing great in all in multiple areas. That are both local projects in key of here. Like, okay. New in the area of snake odors. No, more serious stuff. Like smart city projects this won't do as well in our projects for retail. So I see very very visible about a year, which is very positive. So let's get. So there is the maker community, which it which I would I would hope expect, but you're also seeing some commercial activity as well, some some companies focusing like yourselves focusing on the commercial experts aspect or the BBS of IOT. Yes. Absolutely. I also would like to add that you know, some years ago. All aged projects which we have here in green remained about Alex. Right. Those were consulting projects as we develop different kinds of devices some salt where money's from the US and Europe now local market here. You green has as well. No. So we have some local deployments in key like at the airports. Trump malls supermarkets. So we see in growing demand locally IT saloons excellent exit now known. Yeah. You've got a lot of experience in IOT since two thousand four. So you're like a major veteran yet. Tell me a little bit about your totally looking about your background. And of course, a little bit about yourself as well that time like Welby goal that was low side shut at therm as -iety. Josh cole. And by the systems or systems with wireless protocols later, read amp lamb as feared as remember five on van IT. So my background with embedded systems started with us some consulting projects for the cost of sport from Israel. Those were a wireless Hansel and some communication device placed on Armand Lennox. So I spent several years, you know, developing mainly by the software Assisi plus plaza some job on betta Jolla, and then also had some projects for the customers from euro which developed the smartphone devices, those were wireless gateways, which served to know all the while censors at home and also provided the local la- wifi. Current tv. I also used to spend some time in the species of cars. So for example, used to record the company called cloud mate the develop. Free advanced glowed Blat former for serving big data analytic services, focus on the knowledge in. I'm also free too deeply Walt into all embedded style. Noble Holloway engine nearing starting from conceptual design to PC design ending with him by the soul where three, you know, pretty much everything. Now, how long has Linda GRA been been around for now saw official Integra has been founded in the Endel two thousand thirteen. Okay. Bata in all outsourced office. And in full scale rations with the key members, null and the fulltime development. It has started think in the end of September two thousand fourteen. Okay. Well, you guys been pretty busy. I came across your company in the area of proximity marketing and something that I'm interested in what why you take us through. What is what is park any marketing in in? How does it use the internet of things I'll kill you? So that's that's very good gracious, so proximity marketing Zola Bal engaging. The foot traffic such as shoppers inside their supermarkets shopping malls, sold meant that happen. Need a system or solution where there several components? The main component is about Billy beacons, we'll to low energy becomes which broadcasts specific backups using IBM eighty stone standard, so I become it's a standard promote by apple and eighty stole is promoted by Google that pretty similar though, I should say that eighty storms more advanced support to some what use cases. So that's about ecus. You also need to have a mobile as dicate right in the. Mobile app. Basic receive those signals, so I'll product simple mobile as decays for androids, and I s so that's number two and also need to have like back in system for creating a managing the proximity campaigns where you will upload the content you will create the targeting rules. Let's say if a person staps in play proximity zone, but say immediately procedures home that blue show these video of this picture, though, it's pretty common scenario right for targeted advertising. Still thirty advance now. Okay. So for practical use back to holidays useless safe for retail. So I'll ability beacons attached to say the shelves inside the store at the entrance. When a shopper, which has a mobile app installed is walking Neal said entrance and catches mobile app. Catches the is signal bent. He gets a mesh a message of education. Not me Consejo. You know, please walk. Ian will get a discount. The coupon. Whatever right. And this way we provide the socal contextual advertising the right time the right place, right this. We increase the conversion rates, you know, and the improve the wholesales onnell for details. No. I mean, it sounds. It. Sounds great. You know in in early will, maybe it's not obvious. But it reminds me of the movie minority report. Yes, he's walking through right? The hall and different things come up. But I think the biggest challenge I would assume is going to be to get people to install the apps on their mobile phones. How how do you motivate people to do that? Because it must be a very small percentage of people that actually have it installed before they enter a store where where am I getting it wrong? Yeah. That's very good Gration on. It is a very popular question on holocaust Mus. Yes, we keep being asked what do about the mobile app installation. Snuggled people would like solo absolute soul of the to throw churches here. So the one which is practiced law is about promoting mobile app. Using various China's not bolsters online advertising would say as from Israel. They investing the efforts money into promoting the at and this is for. Debase coupons suggest about promoting the value which consumers will get from this app. And it's not just not get some mice offers. It's also about getting very useful information about the products, which have been sold in inside the slows. So that's not one at number two. This is about using technologies are for example, eighty stone has specific type of communications, which is called eighty stole your and these approached doesn't require any mobile app. Installations, so ha-had works. So as some web browsers like a Google Chrome the integrated with the little stack of anger of race riots that able to get the belief proximity. Message message is directly without the mobile apps. So basically just to have installed on your phone, no other apps and the next time you will walk by ability beacon, you will. Get the message. Okay. So now, I've heard about this. And I've actually seen the presentation in. I'm trying to remember the name of the gentleman in Google used to not be go. But then he was he was in brought into Google to do this. So in that case, you're saying you just need have chrome, and you don't need to have any obligation installed. At all. Is that is that right? Yes. That's right. And I've just recalled a NADA very important approach which has just recently saw it has been brought by Google it is called Google nearby. So this is not the specifically bald for seeming to marketing gals in all agreed of exceeded conveys with the pro which by the police in all that approach can help install mobile apps. So hard works are so at Google play. When you register an app, you can associate some barely beacons with your app, right? And the next fire run the person with an Android smartphone will walk nearby. Those registered becomes he will get deflation lease install these app. No, just like an extra channel for pushing your app installations. So that on the poll options, we should keep hearing. So I think that big hurdle of big challenge about appellations. It becomes less and less challenging. No, I can see that. And I think the key is maybe number two what you were talking about was adding some value because I can think of my experience not that I shop a lot. But when I do shop, I do like going the big hardware stores. I take my son there, and we spend time looking at all the tools and so forth. But when I am shopping, I would like to get some comparative information. So this is not a small job. But if you can provide advertise, sure. You know, I guess I'll take that. Once I made my decision. But I'm thinking if I'm if I'm at a certain shelf in comparing three products to each other yet to be sure nice to get some information. I can see that as being valued. And then once you've identified okay, like vessel on to maybe say, okay. Give me an ad on it, and you know, sell me some right young. So basically, there's one of the use cases ace in these Royal, right? So basically person can bring his a smartphone gloss close the product than getting difficult decision, which will all the detailed information about the product. Plus the discount the coupon. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No. I can see I can see that makes sense dishes going to be a lot of work that would have to go to I suppose digitize these comparisons between the different products. But if that did happen I'd be very open to now notwithstanding their security concerns. Right. I mean, I think myself in a lot of people are shy about downloading the app unless we knew as authentic, but I suppose if you're in the store in its friends yells store, how do you is there? Are there any tricks of the trade that allow or that you seen to motivate people to install these apps just that people are ignorant about security? They'll do it. Anyway. In the space of making marketing specifically, I think we had on charac any issues about security reduced have some issues and discussions in the era of location analytics. Discuss it later, we can market in those few straightforward you. Just install an app on get some messages useful information on the transfer any kind of personal data on sorts. You don't end end for sure it's the so-called opt-in installation. Right. Replete a read to see what you install so think that interest here. Okay. Okay. Well, let's talk about a typical pilot. Now, what you've said so far is we have obviously, the the beacons, you know, in this case, they're third certain type of sensor pushing a pole type of sensor, I suppose, and then we have the mobile app Yemen, which makes sense, and you've got the back end you've kind of touched a little bit on analytics. But one you paint the picture for us of what is typical pilot look like and maybe just use some experience in doing. So yes, all the recognizes minimal violence which replied, right? Solo the most minimal will cost to like to k streak aid for the right and the include just at the beacons recalled embar moats and the mobile act, which is based on all as decay. Blas a free them instance of ours. Your bottle, which is a web portal in for managing lunching obscenity campaigns in doing the analytics for that the game you need just to stick around us on barely becomes insiders. Four. And. On the back inside through unique to register them. And we also have device management model in our web portal, which also supports the sole gold remote management. You know? It's about a remote provisioning consideration thrown upgrades and twenty four by seven morning during which becomes really critical for life scale installations, so. Whip or you can do things like Bredon and dropping of Moby comes on the map of your store. So let's say eight to support genus will be able to maintain them easily. You father any issues with the battery like the backer level is low in that. So that's what we have on the web portal decide that you know, after the network Farkas thumb the network of pecans is installed. A degrade some conveys applaud content like pictures videos, great campaigns with getting roles say by Brooks images owns by five maybe by age gender. We can like that as well. Plus with lead to add in terms of and extended worship of our minimal side. We can also add some other devices, which we call power beacons. So power beacons out the wireless gateways which provide that remote managements and the architects service for pretend to marketing, so. They add in able that guy up twenty four seven monitoring and remote management, which might not be very relevant for small violence. But sometimes our customers with light to try out even on the small networks on the stand. How to work in alleged Edwards Kerr? Okay. So let me understand sway the B L E beacon and question are they just a are? They just sensing. Or can we push information to them as well? I guess we must be able to push information. They must be able to pull in pushing from a that able to pull and push of most of the time. They adjust the pushing Albro rising really packets Barbara saved for the purposes of the remote management in all to change the mold from IBM to eighty stole oil to change Eddie stole. You are our which is provision for barely become. They can also receive. The signals and the do that close from those bigger devices which amounts from which all the are begins. I wanna talk about the power beacons. But so understand can you interact with the big slight walk up to a an excellent looking drill. And there's some really good looking drills out there. And so I I compare it with a couple of other drills. I like this drill. I get an ad for the drill. Okay. Selling me. I got a coupon for the drill. Great. Now. Can I can I close the loop in can I click and say, all right? I wanna I wanna buy this. Or is it really not that closing the loop. Because you're you're in a physical store. So then you actually just pick it up and the cashier mall. Some customers are requesting such features smell the so-called offline to online convergence right before the Palmers Bach him out to make cap only the beacon, basically, what what basically ability become by bus it broadcasts its aid or sometimes. The euro. Right. And then nap using our gay it gets a b and SAM's requested shivers like release giving information for these beacon with the end the rest the rest is done by by the mobile app. So this which descri- to know it's that much dependent upon becomes. It's all the application larger, right? No that that actually makes sense. Of course, those can be done through the application than you're just doing a direct communication with with their application servers. Okay. So let's talk about the power beacons. And just understand that apology of the wireless network. We have the belly beacons. And then you've been mentioned the power beacon is kind of an optional thing. But I would think you would need some sort of wireless gateway to collect the information from the beacons or maybe don't may be explained that a little bit more. Yes, you're either power becomes optional devices because of the proximity marketing network can run with our Motz on -ly route with us motorise which. Broadcast. We can eight his own. Our will be mainly for remote management. Right. It's not in the upper -cation use cases. So what they're doing? All. They collect really signals from all abai in all are ripe would really be. Report the status of the cloud. So since Bauer beacons have repeal e connection or Ethernet. So they always on right? They have IT connection. You know, they can know some in-kind of date plus weaken commands from the cloud would say, you an operator using a web upgrade than this is Don of from our we consist while which then communicates with the daily beacons using all proprietor, really, practical. Now, why do you need to have that local intelligence? Could you not do this all in the cloud as opposed to having? Some some computational surface right there right there locally. Yep. As you understand. So be vegans like bar motes. They have jumped Bailey. It don't have in the national. They cannot connect directly to the cloud. There must be a proxy module approach system on frog as the follow them. But sometimes that's what we do as well. And some other companies doing the embeds that proxy in a logic inside the mobile apps, right, right? Then that's kind of where I was going with. It is is if you're if you have this information on the mobile app in you're making that direction that direct connection with the application server. Why would you need the local gateway? I'm sure there's some good reasons. But that's kinda zeroing in on. Or is that just your implementation? So that has Russell very reason. So number one is twenty four by seven monitoring, this is fresh delays installations because mobile apps. Yes, they might be around might been all in. Also don't have continues morning coming of deacons. Let's say if you. Installation with Dan, those thousands of ecus, let's say for some reasons manual them when the than you should react quicker right down one of your customers with the app will approach the unreal important issue. So having our our we can lace will enable more reactive right Wani blurring a maintenance. Let's number one, right? Then. We can also do not just wondering, but also configuration and the things from upgrade finish challenging with the mobile apps because mobile apps, they might my you severe fear. People are just watching working by the device. They will not stay close to the Bill beacon until thrown operate completes. Right. And then I'll case and all operate might drown. Let's say one minute. And there is a need for continuous connection to become and then at reasonable three. Besides remote managements each shows are become less serve the function of our gate. So sometimes we combine are jealous unforeseen into marketing seizures into the same setup. Right. And then our becomes they also collect location from Asian from becomes a location acts as relish Mark forms. Can you explain our Taylor a little bit for me? So arduous is an acronym for real time work Asian system nowadays, this is about discoloring the real time location data using wifi bluetooth technology, ultra wipe them. Okay. Okay. So you're saying you need to go beyond just maybe time to device. I can't remember what it's called for beacons to understand where location is your your thou bringing in wireless, and you're bringing in ultra wireless did you say, yes. So mansion the three wireless technologies. The first one is wifi which is every the right than bluetooth and the third one. It is called all tra- wideband ultra wideband. Okay. And what is that exactly? Why it is a very specific wireless technology which enables a very high accuracy archipelagos bound group meters. But okay in how is this. So you're saying this the the wifi the ultra wideband is part of the power beacons. He's wireless gateways there. So they're transmitting remitting. This information again to be caught by the mobile. App on the mobile phone Yano. It's versa in all party collect while signals of all by smartphones and location, thanks and those smartphones they might even have any mobile apps than slow, right? So no jokes about collecting wireless traffic and on using our engine converting that traffic to you know, x y coordinates. So I can understand picking up the wifi off my phone now the ultra wideband is that on my phone. Where's that emitting them? Unfortunately, I would love to have ultra-wide them on all smartphone. Spot of multiple reasons some bear. So we need to use our location. That's which also developed that gold bar, mold Oltra wide bums. Similar to be only beacons the same phone factor. But the difference is the technology, which is ultra wide Bentham set of Billy. Okay. So you then correlate the proximity of the mobile phone with your beacon, and then that than identifies or then has a has a relationship with the ultra wide band Amidror beacon to give a little bit more. Accuracy. Can you describe that while it's almost like that? So I think you Bala home how our systems wrecking generally while there are several methods. Right. So for the case of wifi and bullets using our society based methods. So basically, we are collecting the signal strength of the signal which arrived from smock storms location tax. We use all proprietor elders from to convert that to a distance, and then we used as well out proprietor algorithm, which is based on multiple direction. Another try. Alliteration and Monterey. Ration- is basically if you will imagine let's say three foot Barbican Streit. There is a smartphone somewhere in. Somewhere in the middle that the vision of a smartphone will be on the intersection of several strike epilogue the position. Okay. Understand that. Now, what about how does the altar wideband fit into that? I can understand with wifi signal and the bluetooth signal, but I'm not getting it now that the correlation between the ultra wideband and since you don't have it on your phone. How you making that court that correlation team together with power beacons? We sheep out Oltra wide patient. That's right. They used as might -bility involve our shopping carts in supermarkets can attach those Oltra got it. Okay. Yeah. Gone the same principle as wifi Siedle understand. Okay. So then it's it's okay. It's is taxed in something that a little basket or a shopping cart that the customer would have. Okay. Very cool. Very cool. So so enjoyed the tutorial on our tail s and I think that's going to be very. Valuable for everyone else listening as well. All right. So we've got it. We've got our pilot, and I'm just guessing but set up the pilot for you stand up the pilot for pretty reasonable price. And you demonstrate as the shopper walks down the aisle, maybe a video pops up room. SMS message pops up and says oh Hello world. You're here. Maybe plays a little video saying here's the drill. And look how good it is. So that's pretty good, right? And maybe got a little bit more. You've got a little bit on your back end. You can connect up to your portal. You can maybe show them a little bit of statistics on migration pass within the store. But that's that's okay. But then I guess we need to now go from the pilot to the deployment, and I want you to maybe explained step by step. What has to happen there? 'cause the pilot sounds easy relatively easy to install. Right. We're just putting beacons around where adding you're you're where adding. Technically these ban sensors were said emissions on on devices within the store. We've got our we've got our gateway that sounds relatively relatively simple. But what happens when you start talking about scale when you start actually wanna turn this into a an actual deployment from pilot? What what's what needs to be done? Yes. After the violence all the most interesting starts now. I think sometime rule I published an article on Linda mock about all the challenges on Reese, which people might face during such large scale installations, awfully know, people underestimates. All those challenges and I-compared in all those skill projects in all through the Tepe. All the is Burke. Now, people think that okay will again, the six on beacons around, you know, building and into lunch. No, it's not easy. So let's say that you have a retail chain like, you know, doing for a in Israel as a thirty year shops around Israel. So the challenges star even at the planning stage, you know, because a good question where exactly becomes replace what what kind of network is required. Meta the coverage Rubio key with Billy signals. Yes. Some all. So you're the blanding stage into tool all of to plan Len provisioning device that and we have that on our web portal is while says a mentioned you can do that by just dragging and robbing the devices on the mat on okay? So you get a map of or and then you drag draws and then you obviously have to physically put them in the location that matches relatively in a way is on the map. Okay. Then the question of. In all. Building the app at south because no one of the goals, which are accustomed have on the how is to reach a wide audience noble news and Android us. According to our experience would be good projects. It's survivor challenging thefts. Maybe in the US. It's not the challenge in because. There is not that much of Dacian of smartphone models. No, I ask is number one. But he knew green we have like twenty percent of ferric exotic angry at models Nelson's border from song. So it's very hard. You know? So you're as decay must be polished and consider all those Pacific differences between smart for models. What does it in practice? That's what we saw at ace and other locations. So sometimes proclivities owns a bit from one smartphone model might cabbie. No immediate zone in the range from zero to one another full model might have that proximity range from zero to half meter and kneels knoll from one to five and not examples from wine to two meters. So huge differences in the our radio part of smartphones different Damase. Damase rations than the results of question for our saving features because the sun Vander the evening aggressively. All those foresting features so people they will get the signals immediately. Right sole practice. You you might stay for twenty second close to barely beacon. And you'll get any messages while with iphone device, you will get a message. So another sold to summarize spark, you know. No good as decay for productivity marketing, which dogs are large deployments for attention. Hundreds of thousands of people on just knows something small mice consider all those specifics of smarter model, right? Then there is a question of our provisioning the whole network. That's what's remote management is all about after you've installed all the beacons unit on the stand which mall will be used which ones will broadcast. Just I become Beckett's which runs just eighty stone packets. Also support the so-called hybrid moment. So hybrid mold is about similar Daniels. Broadcasts of both Aiken, Eddie still back. It's not color, bro. The set of models. She no you did to write some remedies inside vice smoke. Yikes. Power rate mode. Something else one from east loot mainly by working around a with a mobile app coming up every. Device launch engine for amateurs fasting. But it might be very time consuming consuming. Right help to automate the far green centrally from the cloud. Then there's also a question about creating complaints of all those multiple locations because not Vander again, less sheep, the so-called cross location exceeding conveyance ring, just configure one convene on that. All beacons in all locations operate on that campaign. So specific feature in our platform is the device grouping. No, you can create devise groups group them together and done this way, you'll be able to operate single convenience several locations. That Juan and down side projects some customers, which we have the quest. Salacious known as Selena. Great. Yes. Could system that's a proven listening that's service level agreement. What is what's part of the civil service level agreement for proximity marketing, while I have a book that the response times on the resolution times for the issues are all the network apptime is so if no than the presumption time for any device Kyushu's, let's say if some devices the mattress on the it must be fixed them, let's say the might be, you know, some other issues so for this bark was both Bala Jamal management and also having the so-called the lock analytics place because correct travel shooting for sexual option. That's might become a very very bad thing. An alternative approach without the right system. Place is to keep asking questions their customers. Snow hall has happened. You know, what you Dom what kind of weeks you made on the web or in our case. All this information is recorded, right? So we are able to discover the whole chain of events which happened before the issue brand that Steinman Ulta fix should. Because sometimes customers they either don't have information. They don't want to. I I don't wanna get commission. Yeah. Okay. It's your problem absolute. Yes. Okay. Seoul. Yeah. So this is like the key of the key issues, which you might please in their life scaling selections. Plus the last one I think I forgot now I'll black from originally it has been loved designed and developed for enterprise environments, where multiple people people do from trolls can operate the same interface Reid might be a marketing manager and the back end. You mean, right? Yeah. The back on the web portal. The might be a mock marketing manager to create a lunch things that might be an IT specialist to monitor the device network. The might be like a senior manager to have access to advertising mail that might be the so-called permission based environment with different roles and different views on the same system for different. People security is important information each control to different people is important. And with some customers, it is even. Grew. What Integra will see what will not see? It's also possible if you know customer Quezon guys, you'll have access food load locks, but you shouldn't see that kind of lots of salsa fossil with guy. No object green in all their mission based broach. So just a summer is in the the biggest points are going to be placing the begins. Right. So when you're actually doing deployment actually, putting them in the right place all the back end. So the provisioning getting him set up working on the developing the campaigns making sure that you have the SLA, and then, you know, as part of it again on the back end or the web portal is to ensure that different user types can access different information. Is that a summary that I that? I miss something in the summary. Yeah. I think it's a very good summary. Okay. Now, let's talk about the business side of things. So you've mentioned so from my perspective, why do this, and I can understand the use case that you mentioned earlier, we're walking by you, get information. Are there any other on the product? And hopefully, it it will convince the person to buy it. So I'm going to ask you about metrics minute. However, are there any other use cases besides that typical minority report use case what else what else is a system like this being used for solo all to provide some examples before I do that. I would like to summarize the Q solutions which pride right to make up Lianne so procedure marketing is number one than the arc to discuss this anger. Also, look right ladies. So with the help of our system, you will gandules. Oh, create and launch base can also measure the actual impact on the foot. Traffic traffic on the physical behavior of the shoppers. So let's say once Bain, and then you see all the routes right ever trout's Trumpers inside this fall change. That's very important point on the specific ration-. There was a good use case which recall FM lead. This is about again attention will tax to the shopping guards by default, those actual based on ultra wideband because we would look as we know then remeasure unto Italy analytics every brand on shelf Justin all for the retail. But also the brands forever bottle of every box. And then the brands they for those kinds of reports. Three Taylor's about the brands because for them. It's very important on the stand in how people interacting with that with that products inside the stores, so Severi. Clearly use gays in the release year growing demand for it. Now, what do you mean? How consumers are interacting their brand. I have my drills there in I'll five halfway down. I'll five on the right? So I see a customer walk up to it. I see them go away. I see them come back is that what you're talking about. Are you talking about something a little more sophisticated puke? Our the dig a block saw provide the location day in all where people are walking in that in the socal dwelt time all much fine. People are spending say in the air as some pool on the I know at perfume. On the down. The we also tracked the congressional snow when personal walk the shelves than how much from those people gave up to another shelf of the same brand. No, very important information, which helps with the both mobile and offline marketing activities, snow brands and retailers can reposition, you know, the interior and marketing activities, you know, to improve unto direct the food traffic and physical behavior for a baton gauge moment for to increase the dwell time and increase their the conversion rates from assessors by to shoppers. So what are the what are the KPI's here conversion rate that makes sense? What are the other big ones that are being measured? So meaning what are the objectives of of your customers? They want to understand, obviously, if I was to buy the system I would need to determine what the airline is on it and just thinking through what will be the our land this system while for sure it would be if it increases the sale of if I get an increase in overall sailed if I'm a store than that's what I care about. I don't necessarily care that someone buys drill number one or drill. Number two. I just care that when they come in. They buy a drill versus leaving without a drill. So the conversion rate makes sense as a as a as a key indicator. Are there any others that are really that you found to be important again? I'm not talking about the brands. I'm talking about the stores. Yes. So you're ride that conversion rate is number one by default because it brings attention lady around sales. But it's not always number number one for all all customers all them. One. Just you know to increase the general engagement rate will their mobile app snowed? They want the Nabl you kind of experience experiences. Incites force in a mentioned before the soulful offline to online convergence snow to brief should the world to the physical world stores for that purpose. You know, they provide the winnable on in all useful applications, they want to know. Ingredients the customer loyalty. No people would stick with with with a store they would increase in customer satisfaction. They like to be more innovative because Sephardic of competition. Right. What kind of things and Burks provide the Shabbat, right? Just right. Making people buy in by Moore. Yes. It's inform. But you also become an interesting place for people, you know, ride medicine directional to help them make product selections both inside the stores on the at home. Mom. Providing about the call for people as well. I like that a lot actually that makes a lot of sense in in. I think the key is what you were saying was this offline online convergence because heck I can buy pretty much anything online. However, you know, I for certain infra certain cases, I like to see them touch. But I could see let's say you're ace hardware in you have only. A certain size store. But perhaps you could offer online versions or you could allow customers to buy online product that you don't have in the store. So this offline online convergence is that the direction or is there other directions than a missing on the online offline convergence law? I think that's one of the key directions. By the way, we have a project, which is specifically focused on the offline on convergence on this problem. China get this close any more details because of the off again, the gossamer really wants in all deploy that kind of seizures each number one. Knowing that makes sense because you need to get people in your store. Right. I mean, if they can just by online, and is done in different ways, you know, certain sporting stores here in the US will make it quite grand. And they might even have like a lake in the middle of the store. And it's just it's an experience like you said. And so I like this concept of being able to increase the engagement with the customer provide a better experience for the customer that stuff that I suppose, I even have on my phone, and then, of course, alternately all this is coming down to this conversion rate, but I can see that makes sense to me. I can see there being value. Also shared with with the experience, and then this offline online, which I think is going to be critical for brick and mortar stores in the future. Trying to crack that net is super valuable. I would think. And is there anything else that that you're seeing kind of from because we're we're really talking about I guess the motivators behind doing this. You know, specifically, this this location base proximity base marketing with the with the RT L S. Yeah. Are you are there? Any other motivations that? You're seeing these all make a lot of sense. Let's say for read the or Brown's the use cases which discussed the they make sense. But then the report Gration bottles, say shopping malls, right? The apple right on location. Swear, our customers, which don't sell anything directly, but still the interest in such crime. If you know solutions to engage into analyze food traffic, so why not examined from our gossiping these drill. So it's one of shopping malls that have so what they want to do with the help of our solution is to analyze where people are walking after the. Movie theater strike after watch the movies. Don't reach wants winglets say to the shops which runs a let's say the restaurants, which people adjust were walking out out of shopping mall in them that planning adapting marketing campaigns. They can just say an ice cream small mobile astronomical NIA place where people wearing out from the movie theater to redirect the foot traffic to the shops right to control of how they're working just kind for. Maybe it's more like an evil goal. Business goal. You know about still with instrument in all to control and analyze food traffic to direct to all to the shops where the money can be spent. Yeah. No. That makes a that makes a lot of sense. And a lot of this is powered by analytic. So I do wanna get into that. I think we've we've looked at it from one direction. But maybe let's look at it from the inside out as opposed to the outside in. Meaning what are what is the analytics package, you know, that that our audience should be considering if they're looking for location based system, whether it's tracking system or marketing system, what type of analytics, what are the classes van Olympics that should be there to build to Nabl all these I guess these outcomes are these use cases that we've been talking about so far. Yes. In our products, re support the two kinds of analytics of the first one is based on our this is about discovering gain, the indulge Gatien data and then doing things like the rega- shin processing to provide the business mattress on the web portal. And the second time died this is about all a getting us these while they can base in. Let's say if you graded the complain than how many people opened the contents. People actually on the picture knows jar clicks, Ray consoling so lost. We attach some Gatien date that the campaign on the dick swell in welcome. Muhammad people stayed the close the beacons Billy beacons on. So from technical perspective of the two approaches soul. Arkansas's based approach does make why any appellations basically just collect the wireless traffic on the metrics and for the campaign snow. That's what mobile is the case provide. Right. So let's see you mobile apps flows through become Louis measure out the time, which is spend their welcome and gonna touch welcome to the combined. Fission right, right. Okay. There is a very important thing here in provide those types of on the viks on the same dashboard. So you can view how the results of the campus note, the compete actually impact the foot traffic behavior game, no locations or. Of the people inside the stores. And I would think that'd be crucial. Now, it'd be key is is your value here as being again bringing together the offline and online and pulling together the insights for both. Because a lot of what you're describing if it was isolated from the location would be like web analytics so won't care. Right. That that's good. But then coupling that in the real world putting it into the real three d space super interesting, and I can see they're also being there can also be a big connection. Maybe look at it from certain way, it isn't type of augmented reality in a sense. Also, are maybe that's an extension of this. But again, I'm kind of going back to this offline online 'cause I'm seeing this in my opinion. Anyway, being the biggest mega driver for this is trying to increase the relevancy of physical locations when you're buying things. And and that would bring inaugurated reality to where maybe you know, you'd move your phone. I guess that just. Interface of what we've been talking about. But is there is there that reality component of this? Or is it there is kind of all is that what we've been talking about since the beginning. Really? Yes. Been thinking all sometime ago at som-, a our futures, you know, like to do indoor Gatien using our in all slowly knows on visuals like arrows, which threaten shall dealer. It's fa- mallet something extraneous and goading to some feedback. Snow? It smelt that useful still slump for useful. Because. Mid complicated. Although sweetie a our graphic snow ole on the smartphone spring. So it's not for the masses yet. Yeah. Now, what about just general? I know again, going back to these large hardware stores that I like to like to frequent with my son in particular. I I like to shop, you know. So we just like the browser should say just look at all the power tools and look at the, you know, just a cool spikes in all the rest of it big screws and so forth. But what about what about indoor navigation does this play into that? Because sometimes I just don't know if I'm just going there commando style, and I just wanna go in and out as fast as possible. Not during the browsing experience it'd be great to be able to to locate where I wanna go drills. Where is that? And put on a map is that separate from this. Or is it somehow related nice related again? So we don't have a production rates, urging of indigation but land. To complete. So so Toby again, like the single unified experience with procedure marketing, Kimba guidance, and the vacation and location, and your example with the hardware store. I think is the best possible. Use case like your heating gear. We have a large shelf supermarket for hardware. Epicenter housing downs of thousands of brands for reels for ball of many things sometimes might become a real challenge. And all and you might walk off for half an hour just to find the right products, even litigation and the map based search known just type product DiPoto configuration, and they'll be like a real time in the routing thing on the map. Now, it can help you lot. Some of our customers. The also at that show. A bit with cheer messaging messaging features lawsuit selected at product than you can ask for systems using mobile app, and you can shine Phil will the assails assistance. You can ask Gration soon all using mobile. You know, like what's the best drill for my needs? Right. And they they will tell you all model a model on doping ultimate in the routing, right know device inside the stall. That's another excellent example of this. Offline online convergence where you can pick just take the benefit of both of them. Oh, like excellent. I enjoyed our conversation. I learned a lot. Now, tell our tell everyone where can they find out more about you and your company and what you sell? Yes. I think the best place to find some more information about Integra products will be our website. So it's very easy to spark unto relate a product soul of the websites address league thyroid dot com. Put in the show notes yet, thanks on the web page called developers. So that Beijing because all the is decays datasheets in place to actually stop playing without platform. Even today blasts, the reason of reason access to the dam or demonstration of all focal. So if you want to do the actual clicks on the portal trying to health world snow'll provisions on devices play with campaigns. You can do it today for your church. Best in how far circle have them. If you want to try some pilots just no union as decays older, some democats which have pretty cheap can also bar mobile market where the three devices it costs nine dollars ninety nine. You will get a the devices the report in the global which thrived failed charge all as the gays on also provide the so-called reference mobile, apps, I s and Android. He want to organize them. We end costumer through just into pay hundred dollars. We will give you everything apps. Cloud Burkle devices lump, everything you need to start your sales and you're saying so ninety nine dollars sort of. Yeah. Be able to show some very high level of proof of concept but to get to kind of a prototype. You're you're talking about. Around two thousand dollar cost and then to go into deployment just give us some ranges. Because obviously, this is gonna be depend on a lot of things. But what have you seen as the range of costs for implementing fracture, deploying a system like this? I think it's hugely bands on the set of features which rebound or if it is just about proximity marketing without are less than the cost will be lower. So let's say four for a store like ace where we stalling from twenty to thirty Bill beacon strike must will be awhile again three thousand them. If you want a remote management so will lead to install Arctic, snow and install some cables song. It might be an extra one point five K mart. She wants also Nabl arduous and end location. Only smelted wifi Archer last may be that use case about FM. Sutji the lyrics using location decks on a shopping carts will need to install more of barbecues. They are they mild, and how calculated again, it depends on the wall Blance fried on them building specifics, Bob, the basic formula here is the following one. So one party can colors two hundred. Fifty s Graham meters. So it see have an expert plan for right or like shopping mall, where the thousand the scrabbling space down to cover it completely without Culas allocation on the league, we will need the forty hour beacons on one power become his life three hundred fifty dollars slim multiplied, so that forty that surround footing gate, but that's complete shopping mall. You know with fully card with our allies fully coward with proceeded to marketing, you know, all Endo features. I think is best for the hardware. Arrests fun doesn't the software. That's harvard. Yes. That's let's up for the hardware. Then also have the second bar, which is about this description model. So we also charge device for months, which is what dollars for our peak of dollars or parliament. Why is that? Because I the provide the cloud instance, right, which we support we provide a Soleil, we have dedicated Ikin genus, which administer, you know, your east plus all the data and for a large shopping mall is marketed might terabytes of data per year. So you don't need to keep the data somewhere right now database known the costs for infrastructure might grow. So re include all those costs on the actual operations into those monthly subscription fees. So if I'm to just spit ball this into a rough calculation, let's say a smaller type hardware store than cracking from wrong. But we're talking about probably round thirty K installation. Maybe about three K per month. Is that is that a mind the ballpark? Yeah. That that will be full for a very large shopping mall, which has both arch and proximity. Marketing features in place just for proceeding marketing via three times less. Wow. Okay. And including the monthly fee of three thousand it'd be three times less it'd be only thousand per month them. Yes. If it's just for seeking marketing that Lamont, refused will be even less like on thousand something months. That's that's quite reasonable. I mean, obviously, there's they're still maturity has to happen in this market. Certainly seems worth the price. Certainly seems cutting edge like anything else, you wanna say before we say goodbye, while I think we covered pretty much everything. I just want to say thank you for this great session on vertical questions. So excellent. All right. We'll thank you as I said. So everybody the everything that Oleg mentioned I'll be putting in the show analysis notes. So go and visit them for the links. I think it sounds if you're interested in location based marketing or even or even the RT L S, the seems like a a system that you get up and running pretty easily testings out. 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Food Writers 2020 Dining Resolutions

Eater's Digest

44:12 min | 1 year ago

Food Writers 2020 Dining Resolutions

"What are you looking for in? A laptop seamless switching from laptop to tablet mode light sleek stunning designs with an infiniti screen. Or maybe you're all about the sound more base more volume or battery life like up to ten hours of full HD streaming whatever. It is the newly remastered stirred X. P. S. thirteen to in one from Dell With del cinema color sound and stream has you covered powered by tenth Gen Intel core processors the XPS CBS thirteen to win one offers unparalleled performance. Find out more at eight hundred buy Dell from the newsroom eater. I'm Amanda clute loot. Oh and I'm Daniel Janine and this is digested show that all things dining with a little help from the biggest names in the world the Food and the Journal here eater. We try to understand what's happening right now in kitchens agents restaurants and dining rooms around the world. This is our first show back in the new year. I knew show. You'RE GONNA talk about food food resolutions. And I wasn't even here for that so I actually don't even know what doesn't even know what is the food resolution. So you know a lot of people in the New Year say Diana Eh. Glass this malign those people but now kind of like are you really. Are you really GonNa Change Your Life in this way. No carbs outside restaurants twenty twenty babies is that you're just not that big on diets in general. Anyway this is more about. How would you like to eat it differently? Not Health related. Yeah Yeah and what is it. Just a bunch of people saying now meatless is cool. Well I've been going meatless. Bliss kind of for the last six months catching up to their friend. Danny no well you'll just have to stay tuned and take a listen so your resolution is no carbs outside the restaurant. I wish we live great. I love your resolution. Just that's been my resolution solution for life. Ever since I was eight years old and my dad was like hey when we go to McDonalds. Don't eat the bottom done. That's basically that's that's where that's the direction I've been going in. Why would you eat a car outside of a restaurant? You know realistically look for what reason they're delicious I know but there's no if there's no art behind the carb then I anyway in the car make delicious carbs at home. That's I mean that okay that gets into what is your idea of a restaurant aren't obviously as you pay for the. I'm just saying if there's if there's love and care and artistry behind the car then you can eat the garb no chips okay. No ships ships chair now. I just want to yeah and when I brought back. Yeah Fun chips well. Maybe then I'm not going to somebody else fun on but okay but here Goddamn are we. Fund chips are interesting though because breaking anyway I think you can try every brand of chip at least once you know. Oh and like whenever I go back to Canada. I'm like I've missed all dress chips. I'm going to remind myself won't taste like but that's not really I mean I know what they taste like but it's just a rationalization that I use in the airport. You're all right so no chips. No chips twenty twenty for Daniel. Yeah I mean no irs. Well yeah if a restaurant wants to make some chips or some fries or whatever over and they come home drunk and need a late night. All bets are off. Okay if you're drinking so there's a lot of a lot of caveats no but I have had a resolution like even if I'm out and I'm tanked no late night food like that's one I tried to stick to a while and actually did. Problem is now I live next L. ear. That's bad for your hangover though. I don't know I mean you're about to turn thirty so talk to me next month in sixteen days or something. Yeah she's talked about. Go get ready grace. I mean they're not great as you know to begin with because you don't eat enough food. I eat enough late night food. I I don't get it. There's no shortage of late night. Okay all right so anyways I keep hats in business. You have some Deli. We're going to talk. They don't have any any. Some of our friends at my resolution is not tuber to work. All right. All right okay. That's not food related but fiscally Responsible Uberpool only twenty twenty. Okay speaking of Daniel. Yeah how's your trip to Tokyo Tokyo and Seoul. How is your trip to Tokyo? And so Honestly fantastic you know. I have some beef. I've some beef with these like Old School New Yorker people who I think that they are the guardians of like all this Tokyo food brilliance like for anyone who's been intimidated by Tokyo Food Wise and like Oh. I don't know where to start. Just go the you'll figure it out check out the ear guide like just get one recommendation from one person and just start building around it. You don't need someone who's been instagram from Tokyo. For the past. Twenty years to tell you where to go because they made it up at the beginning to you know. Do you think people have that. Hang up I think I think I did and now I'm coming for all these frigging Blake Fancy New Yorkers who consider themselves the Guardians of Tokyo. Because if anyone has Tokyo the questions come to me. I think this is more about you than about them all right so he didn't respond to me and it frustrates me a little bit. Okay okay we're going to spite hung going to resolutions. And then that's all you wanted to hear trip Amazon. Then we're GonNa talk about stories okay. Hey we gotta get done with our show breath so this week on the show. We are talking about New Year's resolutions when it comes to food and this is not diet. We're not talking about diet. We we are talking about general eating resolutions restaurant resolutions cooking resolutions. Anything like that. First up we have Ryan Sutton eater. New York's critic welcome. Welcome to the show Ryan. Thanks Amanda next for having me thank you for coming so mine. This year going into January is just being a little more open minded about where I go to eat in the neighborhoods. I go to because I I used to be in my youth in my twenty s very adventurous in Wairoa go eat and I would just get on a subway for an hour or drive around for an hour or like Robert Seats Emma at my right hand and just go any anywhere. And I think I've gotten maybe a little lazier and just a little more strict with my time. So I wanna just know something is really really before I spent an hour to go eat there and I kind of want to lose that a little bit and just be a little more adventurous a but does does that also mean. Oh so you're actually going to be more adventurous. Go back back to what I used to be like. That's really good and I won't lie that something. I need to focus on myself. If I had kind of one of two resolutions one of them would be get a little bit further out of my own neighborhood but kind of my my work living quarter comfort zone precisely and you know my father has always for a long longtime. He's been working in Super South Brooklyn He works near Brighton. Beach and so I'd love to spend some more time down there eating it all the Russian and Central Asian restaurants down You know in sheep Said Bay Brighton. Beach and In addition to that there's also some really great lose Beck restaurants and Regal Park them dying to hit so that'd that'd be kind of like all right so what's what's your resolution so that's one of them but the other one is actually the opposite which is to spend a little a bit more time back in my own neighborhood. I really you know I live in Hell's kitchen which I think is an amazing place to live. I think it's it's one of the more affordable ish places I I in Manhattan for about twenty percent of our population is Latin or thereabouts and it means we have really good Latin restaurants and generally speaking on the grand scope the things you don't have as many Latin restaurants being covered sometimes by mainstream food media. And so I think part of what I WANNA do is start eating at these restaurants a little bit. Warren start covering the more. I like to think I've already been doing it But I went on a mirror right. Yeah Guantanamo merits a Cuban restaurant. That's been there for a while. Bolivia went there on your recommendation of his. Very okay wonderful. Oh Gosh. I'm glad you liked. I always get nervous when especially my bosses go to places just in terms of giving some respect to the great Latin restaurants not not just of Newark but are greater country I gave a resolution to myself when I traveled a Denver early this year. I said I'm going to seek out specifically Latin restaurants when I travel to other parts of the country just to make sure I'm not just doing it in my hometown. My Home neighborhood but looking At other places and so I think out of the four days I was there may trade at three Latin restaurants Supromega beyond was one of my favorite my favorite restaurant name of the air. It's incredible I always called Mega soupy mess it up and there's a restaurant across the street makeup not being. I'm really stoked about just kind of giving that part of the world More of a duke. Because I think to a certain extent a lot of Latin restaurants are kind of trapped in this whole of being these as casual places. You Walk in Tunisia takeout and it's great to see place people not just like Daniel. Associate India's at Cosmo Newark but people were like in. Denver like Dana Rodriguez who are trying to not. Just elevate the cuisine but just trying to normalize it more and so we can make it part of our everyday eating both in an affordable perspective also more elegant Person Ryan Sutton. Thank you so much. Love your resolution. Good luck love your solution to and good luck. Thank you next up on the show at MRI Frederick. Our associate cities editor missy. Wet Is your twenty twenty resolution. Okay so I've actually been doing cooking related resolutions for about ten years now and going um well and basically started out. I kind of like. What do these little mini kitchen goals like for the year? So it'd be like small things like okay. I'm didn't learn how to make Dashi this year or I'm going to finally use that tangent that I got my registry is like set in the closet for like three three years or whatever and then about five years ago shifted into something that was more like a year long project with like a theme and this one's this year is going to be bread baking so I'm going to pick a different thread for each month of the year and focus and try to not perfect recipe because I'm not that great if a Baker but at least learn how to make it like maybe January will be like for Kacha or something like that was wait. What was two thousand nine hundred resolution so I call it soups of the world and I tried to make at least one international forty? Hi guys quite a week. Yeah but that is a lot though it turns out. You don't actually want to eat soup once a week now. God it definitely not hurt but you know it was. It was a goal bread. Bread is a great resolution. Because you really can ease into it I. I did this on my first maternity. Leave you've already decided. I would teach myself how to bake bread. And I would set deadlines for myself and sometimes win. I didn't have time. I would just do like a quick bread. Okay so you can do like a Banana Anna bread right or you could do for Koch as a great easy one. You could do that. Mark Pitman no need Brad in a pinch but then you can really work your way up into some intense breads. That's kind of what I'm hoping. I'm not very confident about making bread but I did take a Bagel Making Class C. Yeah that's sort of helped me at least eased into it that way because I learned how to make something that had to rise you know and that sort of thing so hopefully I will get a little better at it. Goes on all right awesome thank you missy. Yep Okay Stefania Oru it's me. What is your resolution for twenty twenty so my resolution is to stop being weird about food expiration dates? Okay Okay I love it. Yeah or food getting going bad in the fridge One of the most contentious things Between my boyfriend and I is is that he will eat things that have been in the fridge for like way past their date and I will the day that it's gone. It's it's due date date it is. Are we talking like dairy. Like he's gonNA eat some sour cream mill or I think mostly things like veggies Jeez or meets more leftovers like I kind of have a four day rule of I cook something and it's been in there for four days and you're not gonna eat it. It's in the garbage mm-hmm he will eat things that have been in there for seven eight nine days. You know a few days ago. He chilly that was in there for a week and then had a stomach ache and I was not not live. I definitely last night cheesecake. That had been in my fridge for a week And I saw it in there and I was like I should throw that away but it was so good that I was like. I'm just going to eat this. I feel like it's part of me. Hates it because I don't want to waste food because that's that's a crappy thing are you worried you're going to get sick okay. Hundred percent it's not even just like a picky like ski thing. It's just I have heard so many horror stories like there was one story however many it was like a like a myth about the kid who died because he eats them spaghetti he like left out and then refrigerated then got some infection or whatever I just like him so oh spooked by that stuff that you know I just would rather toss it than than risk getting sick but you just this week there. Mushrooms that we bought from Wegmans two weeks ago and he he said he was GonNa make them that weekend and he did not and they sat in there for two weeks and they were slimy. Oh right. And so my Go-to googling. How like when should you use the ass S.? One should use things that have been there for so now. You're just GONNA go for it and I'm just going to eat my food. Expiration date skepticism schism. Try to trust the. I'm I'm always GonNa be weird about meets You know if I if I see something. That's a little gray sure. Ground beef is a little. I think. That's that's the takeaway is use common sense. Because a lot of times I think especially in America people just throw things out because of the date on the Bach versus smelling and really looking at it and inspecting winging it right all that and and trusting the digging a little more into into the science behind the dates and realizing that some of them are just for liability. I don't even know it looks fine. It tastes fine right. If there's not like a crust on the other side talking about is that I grew up in a family where like. There's mold on your cheese. You cut the mold off right but I somehow along the years adopted the like if there's mold on it there's probably mold inside at tune. Can you know depends on the thing. Yeah cool all right. Well Good luck to you thank you you don't get sick okay. Palanka skin tell me what is your twenty twenty food world resolution So I'm looking in. Would yeah okay. I've decided obviously that the world is terrible and has been so for awhile. Nothing's new is just In that sense I'm not. I don't have any resolutions nations about restaurants because I think I've got great taste. It's just GonNa keep doing that restaurant. Yeah I'm just you know I'm I'm a Taurus. I like what I like That's not going to change But I think because I am looking inward I've decided it's a baked bread and Greek my own yoga alright so I grew up in a household that we never bought yoga. My mom always had Had One going. Wow so my mom's homemade yoga is great love it. Have you grow up like that. I think it's really easy to so that was that was Paul. All of why why. The Yoga thing happen I just I like being able to just say I made it and it's kind of like a flex to so you just always have a bowl. Yeah uh-huh just like. There's like a in in my in my house in London. There's always just like a a pot of yogurt all the time so we just like us is that and then my mom just uses the mother and then keeps key thing to be related to the Brad and that you have the mothers going. Yeah like and you know feminization. That's that's kind of cool Jerry Injury But I think the bread thing is more of looking inward is the I want to persevere at something without giving up okay And you know that bread is hard. Bread is hard you make a lot of mistakes with bread And I'm terrible terrible. It not being excellent at something on the first go If I'm no excellent something I go. I just won't do it. My track record is perfect right. So I'm trying to move away away from that therapists said I should. So I'm I'm trying to do something that I'm new at that I might say you know you might fail like a new shoe trying. Yeah Like no one is a great upright Fusco so I'm going to keep trying and then through that journey the seems like a common resolution and I love it because it does make me think of a real new year's resolutions where it's something that's very hard and you know you you're going to be challenged by but in the end this time next year you're gonNA look back and say wow look at all this beautiful breadth. Yeah look at all these instagram posts. That no one ever fun Of the Middle Section but then you know ceramics my follow people on instagram and then after eight months I'm like damn good at that. Go really really good terrible at the beginning and I call eighteen and put the office through my Johnny. Well bringing you said and I I think like as a B. Plus uh-huh uh-huh why I'm doing it is I just want to reclaim it from the birth. Yeah there there's a big trend in the bro World Bro Community of getting into bread. Yeah I'm I'm trying. I'm trying to make it more of like a FEM thing. Yeah making them. I've done this before so I have all the bread books. I'm just gonNA give you okay. Great just bring them into the office because I I a failure and I no longer baked. Bread Yeah So I'm excited to just pass on. Thank you everything to you. And then I'll eat your bread. What did you learn from journey? It takes so much time. Yeah and you have to. You have to be committed. I wasn't enough so I I like that. You're coming in understanding that it's going to be a challenge committing to it yeah I was just like fuck this. I don't think I knew I didn't totally comprehend what I was getting into and I gave up. I think The tire sorry mass. I'm okay with just like you know you wait two days three days. Yeah approve something alarm and wake up in the middle of the night. That was the other things I was doing at the same time as having a baby so I was already waking up at the melon. I didn't WANNA say another alarm. Yes sleep was too precious because once you're once you're asleep that say you need you need to getaway you can but this is great for you. Yeah I'm excited. Obviously you know. Call me back on the cost in February. When I've given? Oh yes well good luck. Thank thank you okay. Martha Daniel Eater Digest producer. What is your resolution for twenty twenty my resolution for twenty twenty? When I am dining out is to be a little bit more spontaneous? Okay so fallen into this pattern where I just research everything to death before I step foot into a restaurant and when you travel or both all of the above like even when I'm home in Texas it's just so bad like I can't like just pop into a place like see it's GonNa be like right like I just consults like every single source. I can find it. Drives my boyfriend crazy like when we're walking around in a new neighborhood. We need to eat something he's like. Let's just pop in someplace but I like pull out my phone. I'm trying to find the perfect spot. And it's like not every spot is going to be. The perfect happens to me whenever I travel with people people who aren't my husband and they just want to be like. Oh here's a place to eat and I'm like no no no way Woah. You're just GONNA have a meal any old place I mapped out fifty different places. We could be dining at this moment like. Let's just get in the car and go to one of my places on my map. And they're like no dude. We're just GONNA eat breakfast. I who cares. It's hard to be. The person who your friends always consult is like the person in charge of the meals because like you feel this responsibility for making it be good even though like truly. It's not your bear the responsibility if I get to dictate where we eat. It's like okay then if it's sex it's my fault but at least I'm I'm looking into Oliver option. Yeah do you find yourself getting resentful of people who are like. Oh it's whatever and then they pop into a spot and you get dragged along and it sucks that really probably. Yeah Yeah of course but it makes you realize that. Not Everybody is as hyper focused on the quality of the food. Yeah and to your point. Sometimes maybe maybe we should just all relax a little bit. Yeah and just see where life takes right and it probably won't be the most mind blowing casual spot spot you can say I just found this place wandered in. We'll be right back with the biggest stories of the week. The holidays are behind us and saw the heading meals and concentrating that goes with drinking the celebrate drinking to relax stringed Atari your family. It's a lot so if you're looking for something to drink while you're not drinking checkout checkout seed lip see left is the world's first still non alcoholic spirit. It has no sugar no calories and comes. 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Just go to butcher box dot com slash eater and use Promo Code Eater At checkout that's put your box dot com slash eater or use Promo Code Eater Daniel time for some stories all right and I tell you my favorite story Laurie from past couple of weeks. It's the crashing pantry story. I don't know anything about this. Okay great so I enjoy this by the way. Yeah we've had a month to generate stories. I know but you look back on stories from last month. And they just feel so old they sure do credit. Starting fresh New Year new stories like the Kim Kardashian pantry story because I was off last week travelling in Oaxaca and that means I wasn't reading the food news but this one crossed the threshold for coming because it was in some texts A friend of mine texted go look at Kim Kardashian in stories right now and I did. And you weren't disappointed. I was not disappointed. Take me through. I went back and read the slacks of our eater team. I think they were like who cares. But being being in my bubble on vacation this is basically she instagram. The picture of her in front of her fridge and the fridge just had water and milk in it like a bunch of milk. That's surprising three different kinds of milk. Many dairy milk. I think varieties as of milk. So maybe there was an oatmeal. Maybe there's an almond milk and dairy milk okay and then multiple cartons of each and a ton of glass bottles water so she instagram's instagram's this and people went nuts saying like what is. Where's the food while you're some milk and water fridge? So she did an instagram story. Okay saying listen. That's just one of my fridges. Yeah gave a whole tour of her pantry and her real walk in restaurant style. Fridges walk in Fridge. Oh yes she does cool. Yeah I mean this is not surprising to many people because obviously she's rich so of course. Her pantry is elaborate but you gotTa Love Tours of elaborate pantries so her pantry is just full of all these glass jars of Seattle. All right and then she she has all these jars of different kinds of sprinkles and then she shows her froyo machine. Oh she has a program so it's like an eight year old high tens of millions of dollars to create a pantry. It's like I would just put sprinkling cereals and put clothes milk. Yeah and then she went to a real kitchen and show this beautiful full array in her walking bridgeable vegetables and snacks. Okay so that was like her kid fridge. I don't know if it's the kid fridge or just like they all of cereal. That's pretty great. I mean I never have enough half-milk home at that has absolutely nothing to do with this. She has so much just cartons upon cartons surprising to me. Is that her kitchen dairy in there. I'm sorry probably heard it well. No she's four kids so maybe some of them drink dairy choosing. There's so many different kinds of milk. 'cause the kids all like different things. Oh okay that's nice. Her a kitchen itself didn't seem all that stylish. I'm unclear what you really like about. This story is it that she has just milk in the fridge in one is just like I. You like celebrity tours of Pantries and fridges. I hate that genre of food writing like that. Always Pitch magazines so and so's fridge but it's always boring people like I don't care what's in this chefs fridge always like champagne in a bottle of water. I can't dozens of glass jars filled with cereals. And then racks sprinkles calls love it. Yeah right because she cares. What's in her house and she has basically infinite money so renzo do anything? What what do you do with ten million dollars design your dream pantry situation? What is it stock to? I'll tell you what's in mine anchovies from you could still do that by the way anchovies. Aren't that expensive. Even the best anchovies you can probably afford starting now some fancier Jovis last week. Daniel was the consumer electronics show in Las Vegas. It sounds like the worst of it I would never want to go there. Why does it sound like the worst thing in the world to you? Just a bunch of tech people people trying to promote their weird curvy. TV Ass. And I think the timing is rough. 'cause it's right after new years. Yeah so I think a lot of people probably want to be there. Also Vegas Vegas isn't my FAV- No I don't think it's anyone save. They've really if Vegas is your favorite. You know what that's strange. No I know some people were vegas is their favorite okay. So they're not trying to them okay but anyway. This is where people show off the newest electronics. Greatest Tech innovations of the year. There are a couple of food ones. None of them. Sound all that exciting. There's one did you see the one about the trash can. Okay yeah the trash gas mart. Trash cans. Yeah where it relies the bag bag for you. Is that for you and it seals the top of it once it's full when it knows it's fall you don't need that voice activated Faucet K.. This is the silliest one it was it was unreal a leak detector. Jeez yeah I would absolutely love love to hear. This thing. Saying leaking leaking voice activated Faucet. This is the thing. When are you? K- the only. Let's come up with a circumstance where you would need voice activated Faucet. Let's say you have drive past In a pot. And you're just waiting to cover it with water like if you you put that in the sink at a time and then you're walking towards it and you know that you need to start filling it with water like but you could just put the water on ahead of time and leave it on the stove. I literally can't think of any reason you would need a voice activated Faucet. Reason would be if your hands are very dirty and yelling to stop there you go. Yeah they have those things now those faucets that you can just kind of touch so you could touch it with your arm and the foster would turn on that so this would be like contact. Yeah yes so if your you're come germs K.. Let's say you're covered from elbow to fingertip where something Goo. Yeah you could say faucet awesome on. Yeah I mean I see surgeons clamoring to this. You're there you go you now for surgeons on what what Dr would you say. I was talking to the vase. Argument Faucet Okay what else and then there's one from. LG It's a fridge with a something. Attach where you can grow herbs that that sounds Kinda cool but like I. Yeah because I just don't really believe in combining things you know you fridge can be your fridge but I think the fridge Automatically has a better environment for growing so I can understand how you are actually being efficient by binding things but you know what TV fridges like all these things. Things never really worked. I guess you know as someone who stocks the fridge significantly more than I do and you are in a family with more people. Are you ever interested. What's in in your fridge like? Have you ever been at trader Joe's or something being like do I have right now because I always thought that the fridge camera was a useful thing. I guess I could be useful. Yeah Yeah but not enough that I would really go out of my way to buy one but my fridge how that feature I guess I would use it What about the one where the Pan attached to your smartphone and then it lets you accurately way? Count your kitchen to be doc. Smarter right less Internet in my kitchen it well. I think that goes all the way back to the microwave. Having the different food adoptions on there for you know every those ever in the history of humanity. I've used popcorn mutton. Well then you're doing a bad job and we haven't used in years but I've definitely pressed that button. You have. Yeah Yeah because we're not it's there. It's the popcorn. You go a minute and a half you check check and then you you make a note of mental note for next time. Just all POPCORNS posit differing pop up next on the show. We have eric the hall. Who is the general manager of win? Sun Hi Erica. How are you good? We got an email from a listener. with I guess you could. I'd say a complaint about a restaurant and definitely a service complaint and we wanted to. We wanted to read it to you as you know If as as someone who is a fantastic fantastic restaurant manager and get your take on it and see if the restaurant handled it well or or maybe what you would have done instead about when Sunday. Now the trap and I'm excited. That would have been a huge twist. There would have been okay so this couple dined at a restaurant in L. A.. I won't say which one And the the wife told the server that the husband was allergic allergic to sesame seeds just the seeds not the oil. The server told them which dishes to avoid and they even swapped to dishes is because there was a sesame sesame seed something in our original choices. They had an excellent meal until dessert. But they ordered a dessert which contains entertains almonds and peanuts? According to the menu guess what it also contained sesame seeds unbeknownst to them the waitress didn't remember and my husband realize as he was being poisoned five bytes in We call the waitress over and she confirm there was sesame in the dish the manager came over and asked what she could do. We told her we needed needed to leave as quickly as possible and needed the check while they heavily discounted the meal. I strongly believe it should have been fully comped. She kept asking what she could do. Sort sort of expecting me to beg for a COMP which I did not do the bill was one hundred and six sixty seven dollars and I left. No tip do agree that we shouldn't have had to pay for anything in the meal. If the restaurant had handled it differently I would consider going back at this point but will never step foot in there again and it's even soured her opinion of the chefs other restaurants. Even though she knew it it was a fluke and not a systemic issue. Thanks Erica break it down. Oh Buddy you know that's something that's like such a tough spot to be because it like just starting from the end of the email. It definitely shouldn't sour opinion of the chefs other restaurants because that's clearly clearly it was a service issue not like Like nothing they did it intentionally or something that they would ever try to do like. No restaurant would ever try to do that. That's one of the most stressful situation to be in like when you realize that you've just given somebody allergy and I think it's probably happened to like everybody because nobody's perfect and you kind of have to like I think as a guest be like okay. This server has however many tables if I have an allergy. I'm probably going to remind the server before I reorder again just because I don't know what's been going on when they're away from my table they could have completely forgotten that. I have an allergy. Or maybe you didn't even order with you the same service. I think. It's important to reiterate your allergies. Also there's no No way if somebody's having an allergic reaction and they need to leave that I'm dropping jet Like I'm going to be like you go to dinner owner. You just paid for dinner with your life. I've actually made that joke before one time. Somebody like one person at the table. had like almost eight their allergy. And I was like you know what you your buddy over here. Took Care of dinner tonight by risking their lives for you guys but yeah no I think probably. I wouldn't have charged them for dinner. If you are about to leave and go pay the hospital bill or go pay for an EPI pen to shoot into your wherever you do that That's just so uncomfortable. I feel bad for the manager and the guest honestly just because that's ooh. Yeah no if the question was what I have charged them I definitely would not have. They don't be people now coming around and trying to get Eat their allergies. Don't use US against Erica. Yeah like I heard you on a podcast and it says if I just ate some peanuts I get my dinner for free. I would like to know exactly what they took off the best and like did they call them an ambulance Eric. Actually while I have you here we have another service related email that I thought I would Thought I would read you this one I will share her. I will spare her name mm-hmm but this one is called poaching service staff in restaurants. This woman recently moved to New York and she's opening a restaurant and she. I wanted to say being new to the city. I don't have a large network of industry folks so my recruitment efforts have been mostly web based job postings however I found some ideal server in bartender candidates while dining at other restaurants what's the protocol for poaching servers. Well dining is it wildly inappropriate to tell a server who service your impressed with that. You'd I'd like for them to join your team asking for a friend. No she's not here on. This must happen all the time. What do you think this is? I mean this is how I went about about finding a job out to eat finding places where I like the service and then being like this is somewhere that I would want to work so I think that it goes the same way. Like if you're looking for or people that happens in like that happens to me with servers who work at when they'll come up like I was going through the other night in this server was amazing and I think that you should reach out to them so oh like I think that's totally fair. In a lot of times. People are looking for a second job. Yeah but everybody poges. You've got to be on the low. Oh about a little bit. Maybe don't do it too much. But for all he's happy and you have the keys to a better situation for them. But you're not pumped if you hear a table is like just ask your server to To come like do a trial at their restaurant. Are you know sure I am like yeah. That's great for you there. I mean look look if you as long as they're not gonNA change their availability on me. I don't mind what's going on especially because most of the time like for like I'm in a unique situation and where people who I work with like we're such a tight grew and like it's such a family that for the most part everybody's really happy so I don't think that anybody somebody could poach anybody for me but you know if you can get from other places like that's cool so if you were starting again your first move obviously. We talked all your friends in the industry. But you would just go out and eat like and and then when you had a good experience with someone you note them down for later something something that I think about all the time I would never just like walk into a place that I'd never been during service and be like work here like I. Why would you wanNA work somewhere? You would never been and and you had never experienced right and you want people who WanNa work there. Yeah any other industry. I don't think people are applying for businesses that they've never heard of. Hey Dan come it will podcast for us. But you've never heard of them or you're gonNA quit your anywhere. Yeah that's that's a great point though that the restaurant industry is so flexible that it might not mean them leaving you if they get a second job no one hundred percent. A lot of servers are only like people who work for me. At least he's like three days a week is how many as you want to be working but you can make the amount of money that you might make at a desk job in that three days as opposed to the five days picking up two more days somewhere else if you need money in that time like standard Well Eric I think this might have been a good ad for you. I met you. Maybe you'll get a lot of service hitting you up now being like. I want to join the family. No we definitely do have a lot of people who want to but were like I don't have any shifts. Okay Erica thank you for fielding or service related questions. We will respond to tweet. That was I got a lot of traction over the holidays where this person stacked all of her plates at the restaurant and and said everyone do more of this in two thousand twenty and there was a bit of a debate Eater about is this wrong or is this right. Yeah and I wanted to get your opinion because in my opinion it's wrong wrong. Yeah why is it wrong. I mean let's start with that. Why do you think is wrong? I guess it depends ends on the restaurant like maybe a diner. It's okay but if you're at a high end restaurant and we finished our place and stack them in the middle of the table when you feel it was wrong. Yeah also as a server you have a system or what you're doing and how you like to clear things and sometimes they're bussers that have their own systems uh-huh so just having someone like maybe there's a way that they get rid of food or paper whatever and who knows what's on these plates if someone else stacking them so fundamentally I go into things like this believing I'm one hundred percent right but open to be proven wrong like if someone who actually spends a lot of time bussing tables which I've done some time bussing tables. I spent a summer summer bussing tables and doing scratching win lottery tickets. I would say I did both of them in equal part but see spent all your salary on off all stick. It was pathetic. Frankly but that's fine In a fine dining restaurant part of the experience they're giving you is hospitality and is is the idea that they are there to make to curate the perfect experience for you right. So you're infringing on what they believe is part of their service if you're stacking plates you're also well theoretically if their job is to provide you with hospitality and you do whatever you want you can stack. The plates are not sure your goal is to try to make their lives. Easier right per person. It's an important I just don't know yeah. I don't know if you're making their lives that how much easier you might be making their lives harder. The thing in the fine dining restaurant is like it. Looks like the back of House to see plate stacked on each other so you're actually taking away from all the other diners experiences If you are creative garish file plates really yes discount. Maybe it's reflecting poorly poorly on your server to the general manager is like why aren't you on top of the table. You're also burning. You're getting your server fired. Let's do less. Yeah I think though that because of the the GMC's year stacking plates ending these people have been there so long right. They're trying to send a message to you. It's like when you're waiting to order for so long that you close the menu. Put Him in a pile at the end. Like hey come on you know it gets to to an interesting philosophical point which is like if you are you helping someone by doing something that you think is helping them but really you're making their life more difficult like well also you just read the room you know. Read the room like there are some restaurants. I go to a lot where this would be appropriate the APP and maybe there's like a lot of plates coming in. You're trying to make room and that's fine. I've got a message this woman. Why stop at bussing the plates? Why not bring your own frigging trae stack all your plates? Put them in the in the bus Ben and then just bring him into the back of the kitchen. Don't Cook your fucking Food Tall Michael aggressive than house but okay excessive to say thank you so much for. You're listening to this week's episode of Eaters Digest. If you like it you know. Pass it onto a friend. Also if you have thoughts on stacking plates he must. We're back on That's all we have for you this week. We'll be back next week. It's more fresh content by this episode was sponsored by seed lip if you're looking for a complex non alcoholic spirit to enjoy while you're not drinking seedless. Has You. Covered would see the three varieties of distilled non alcoholic spirits are celebrated by world class chefs and bartenders around the world for their delicate and sophisticated blending of spice and citrus. Seedless has no sugar no calories. It's truly a drink for every drinker. Give it a try. 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#44  Joel Solomon On How Food Businesses Can Be Part Of The Clean Money Revolution

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#44 Joel Solomon On How Food Businesses Can Be Part Of The Clean Money Revolution

"Welcome to ethical alpha podcast series, your source for actionable insights into making money and food. I'm Tara Johnson, the tears weighty, and we're here to talk to a wide range of stakeholders about what it really takes to grow financially, viable food business. So Joel thanks for joining us today year. So thanks for having me. He added. This is fantastic. And you're calling in from Vancouver. It sounds like yes that's in cover British Columbia Canada. Yeah. Yeah. So I was saying to the person who is is behind the glass door here. They'll glass window. You know, like how we're calling to Canada. It's international show. Well, sort of maybe. Well, it's let's say Canada's Canada's stock is rising and current North American conditions. Sure is it's looking better. And better every day. I think to lot of people. Yeah. Yeah. So so I am so excited to have you on on the show because I had been thinking about wanting to have some more investors on the show. And then here you are. It's just fantastic. Well, I I don't know what say about that. You're happy. Yeah. So so you were just saying before we came on the show that you've been you've been investing in organics for a long time. I have it was driven by a health diagnosis of genetic kidney disease came through my father and his line. And when diagnosed they said, you could die soon you could live long, and there's nothing you can do about it. We'll be well being a what do you call it? A privilege North American. I, of course, thought well that can't be true. There must be something. I can do about it. And I started to learn more about the kidney, I realized it filters the blood, and when I thought about my blood, well, then what I'm eating and breathing. And all that kind of thing is gonna gonna affect me. So I started reading labels, but I had to go into a health food store for the first time that was daunting. They were pretty, you know, those were aware, right? This is this is when nineteen eighty right, right? So they were the little it was kind of odd people who work there too. Right. And that all and yeah, it was hard back then. And so I walked in. I mustered up my courage, I walked in with through the store spotted peanut butter bought it and went back out. And I gotta cross the street. Okay. What was all that stuff? Right. And that was that was the beginning. But fortunately, it it took I from Chattanooga, Tennessee, and I've learned there when I would go back home there that the Seventh Day Adventists concentration of population near Chattanooga. And there was a grocery store that's sold. Non meat products. Yeah. Yeah. And all kinds of education things and that was part of part of the beginning. But, but I'll shrink story and say within a few years I had herited of a small amount of money. And I wanted to go into things that mattered, and I reached out to an old friend who had an of a revolving loan fund in New England. And I said, I know you're supporting affordable housing, and this is, but I'm I wanna do something that has to do with my health. And do you have anything involved with organic foods? And he said, well, there's a small farm spa farm institute that wants to prove that small family farms are still important and they have five cows and they're not for profit and making yogurt. And they need they need alone. So I said, okay, I'll I'll give them twenty five thousand dollars, and I got a phone call from this guy in New Hampshire, and he said we've decided were selling yogurt too fast will never be able to build this as not for profit. We're going to become a for profit. Will you invest? And I said sure thing, and I got lucky and ended up in stoney field farm yogurt cows crazy with the first five cows. That is unbelievable. Right. That's like as an I if you're an investor those are the stories that we all like, you know, you just wish you would have one of them. Right. And that was your first will then I got I ended up seeking out whereas the world that looks at these things, right? And we're we're into the early eighties. And the I I ended up at the first meeting of the social venture network. Okay. We're been in Jere, Ben, and Jerry and a number of let's just say the early crazy people. They writes that crazy they weren't doing organics. And that grew and grew and led to all other networks in organizations, but another great story was walking by table. We're. Jeffrey Hollander was making a pitch to a group of people. And I that was the opportunity put fifty thousand dollars into seventh generation. And. Yeah. So those were those weren't smart those were lucky, but they got me. They got me to believe in it today today, I run with my partner and a good group of people a mission venture capital fund that invest in organic food and environmental technologies. That is so fascinating. So I am somebody who's old enough to have to remember those companies when they were young, right? So it's fun to work with young onto preneurs. Now who don't remember the beginnings of those brands, right? So it's super fun to to see what has happened over the years with those brands it's amazing that can the day when it was all fringy, right? And now it's kind of the mainstream in a way. Yeah. Today at our office. We we've been looking at plant based food companies. So we just did a taste test of of a number of different brands that we've been talking to. And you know, and then we had the Jack fruit know, Jack fruit samples and on that kind of thing. So the field has really grown and you've seen expo west and the large gatherings that the first time I had twenty five or fifty tables, right? Right. And now, you you cannot make it through all the booths unless you just fanatically dedicated to write it takes stimulant of some kind because you it goes on and on and on. It's amazing. I was there last year. And I thought you know, if I had launched Tara's way, I'm glad I did when I did I launched it at expo in two thousand nine and the show was kind of dead because it was two thousand nine right? Comparatively speaking now, it's just. Like, whoa. There's so much going on. It's crazy. So I think it would be really useful for people who listen to this show to just kind of talk a little bit about what your fund does. And specifically, but also just like what a fun does. Because I'll I'll have people talk to me and say, well, I'm going to get a venture capital fund and they're going to investigate. I'm like, yeah. It's a little early to be asking venture capital for money. So helping people distinguish between what an angel investor might do and venture capital fund might do the super helpful. I will say that. And you you probably know this also that the shopping by the investors is going into earlier and early stage because the field has gotten so successful. And or Ganic natural food is giant industry yet, of course, still tiny compared to mainstream food. So you're seeing big food. Come back to your question about just you're seeing big food losing shelf space and losing market share. And now attempting to buy up companies as soon as they show signs of promise that's still that's that's not that's not generally startup. But here's here's a quick sketch from my point of view, what I described when I invested in stoney field seventh generation, and I wanted to say I just took. I just took a swallow from stimulus. Which is Guayama key Uraba Matei. Which I also found early and I just I I was at Baya nears conference. You may know about do. They were they're, you know, making Matei making LA Monte as racy early on. I was just so captivated by the by the crew, and what they were up to and by the pleasant effects of my coffee alternates. So anyhow also got in their early on. And and they've they've come a long way. But I just I just say they're they're not at the study field and seven generation level. But I predict they will be okay so angel. So so the first round funding typically comes friends and family right nowadays, we have a wide system of incubators accelerators, and and all the universities and all over the place you can step in as an entrepreneur and find yourself training and be with other entrepreneurs talk about it and some of these are focused on food now focused on different issues. So they're starting to be in an. Ecosystem and infrastructure to support early stage companies like beginning companies, and and but the first money that usually happens is people think about who do they know who who in the family will take bet on them, and that kind of thing so you scrape together a bit of money we now have crowdfunding which is another option. It's do you. Don't just get magic money. You gotta work hard for it there too. But there are ways to get your your early start up money, and even governments are getting into understanding that if they want to see economic development and their city state their country, they're they're starting to invest in these systems. Also, so it is there is a bit more of a now let your competing with so many more impassioned entrepreneurs. So you go through that stage. And you do what you have to to get enough money. And and and prove the concept get brand developed or your whatever you might not be. A consumer product. But you gotta get the first stage is done, and then you can start talking to people that are angels. And angels tend to be folks that okay? The founders of those early companies are now investors in lots of other early stage companies as they get their success, and they maybe sell their company or or raise a lot of money or get very profitable their favorite. Investing is often to go back into the industry that they came out of. So there you get you get a lot of angels that way and other angels are people that made money, maybe they're retired now, and they find it really stimulating and engaging to listen to pitches of younger companies, and then maybe to get advised a get involved as an advisor or board member. And so you move into that kind of angel and Siedle. Level and seed money is like you do with seeds to grow food people believe that they put fifty thousand dollars or a hundred thousand or twenty five thousand and seed now, and you get into big technology might even be a million dollars. Sounds crazy. But it's real, okay. So you get through that phase. And then you get to the venture capitalist. Typically. Yeah. So in in here in in Wisconsin, we when I did tears way I had to raise fourteen million because I would build a plant, right? So I had a lot of dead and that too, but I had to raise a couple million. And we don't really now this was two thousand and eight kind of that timeframe we didn't really have we definitely didn't have a dedicated venture fund for for the sector here, but we had private equity, folks. And we had some I guess you'd call it family office folks, who who were the people who really understood like, maybe they sold they as you said they made money because they sold the family food business, which we have a lot of that in Wisconsin. So that those were those were my investors, and they were they were definitely acting like angels. Right. They weren't organized into any kind of fun. There wasn't. It was me. Aggregating a bunch of individual people right to that equity. And so so in in the world, you are operating in right now, you have a staff that helps you evaluate things. And you raise is it rate is the money raised into a fun. Then when you're when in for venture capital like you. Yes, we are affectively doing the aggregation that you did as an individual do it professionally. So we put together a pool of money. We go out, and we're now working on our fourth one, you go out, and you talk to everybody that you can figure out who has money you got connections to can get introductions to get in front of. And you pitch your case. So we are an entrepreneur as tariff was we are renewal funds and our product is we will get we will create a portfolio of companies in the issue areas that we're focused on and you don't you don't have to do anything about just you benefit from from our work and our goal is to make you an above market rate of return. And if people in venture capital can prove that to the investment were to the bigger investment world. Then they take that next part of the ecosystem and can be the ones who come in. We call ourselves early growth stage. And we won't we look at companies that are already at one to two million of sales or larger. And so that's often where venture capital fits in in the food world roughly that scale now because of the increased demand for organics, and and clean food. You're seeing competition from the products from the retailers, and the outlets, and then the venture capitalists are competing to get into the things that are that look like the most likely to succeed. And so it's there's this kind of food chain that venture capital, you mentioned private equity and family offices. And so there there are actually these if you're not somebody that works in these worlds, you can't believe how many pots of money, they're actually are. Right. That are that are out there hunting, I have a friend who's who's managing partner of private equity fund around here that is in our space, and he he's came back. Back from expo west last year. And he said, I was it was so depressing. Just because everybody I know who is got money for the sector was there. It was like. He's like there's so many people doing investment in our sector now, which is so amusing to me because I I work so much with entrepreneurs, right? Who feel like there's no money anywhere. This is a a lot of the way the world is and you till you and. You know, if you just you just kind of come up with a good idea yourself, and it looks like a barren landscape, you you get yourself into the ecosystem of different issue area or different heart of finance or something like that. And then you go to conferences that have you can go to venture capital conference. That's got thousands and thousands of different venture capital funds. Like who knew they were. All there. It's crazy. That's right. Yeah. Yeah. It's crazy. So what do you look for in companies? Like, you said you were you were doing tasting some stuff today. So you care about the food, right? You heard me say we are mission venture capital, right firm, and that organics and environmental technologies, and we also talk about healthy households. So green greenhouse soldiers. It's a low toxic kinds of or no toxic kinds of substances so mission. Venture capital is meant to send a signal venture capitals. Gotten a bit of a bad reputation with the entrepreneurs, and it gets called vulture capital. Right. And that has to do with the fact that people that are driven to maximize every penny. Just like the tra- probably is. But their job is in finance can be pretty rough and tumble historically. So with any investor you want to interview them as much as they're interviewing you, really 'cause you're you're getting into a kind of a marriage, right? Right. And you wanna be sure when you get married you choose well, and that you're with partners that you wanna be with so mission. Venture capital, though, we can't that doesn't prove that we're easier people to deal with on on the surface of it that you have to go get references and meet and talk and ask good questions, but mission venture capital signals that we what we care about. I is that the product or the service actually matter to making the world, safer, cleaner and more fair. So that's all we screen out or screen for the best actors, and that is that's not just a group of smart sales people who figured out that there's a hot trend and they jump in. I wanna know what the actual values and meeting and purposes of the entrepreneur. Why are you doing this? And you're telling me a story of how you're going to take this company to hundreds of millions of dollars. What are you going to do with your success? Like are you going to use financial success to reinvest in a better world, or you know, what are you going to do? And so as much as possible. I an hour firm one understand the motivation, and the the real depth of of caring that's going on. Because there's a better chance that you're going to just like you're worried about a vulture capitalist. I'm worried about an exploitive entrepreneur who doesn't really care, and it's just right? Try to make a bunch of money. So that's the match that our firm needs. I we trust you you trust us. We think you're doing something that matters. You you feel proud or at least prouder of the money you're gonna get for Maas rather than somebody. You don't believe in or trust? So that's at the base of it. After that. It's we're the same as any other investor in the sense of. Do you know what you're doing? Are you able to build a team are your emotional, skills and your human skills, effective for dealing with conflict for dealing with stress and pressure? And do you have the skills? Do you really understand? Or are you building around you a team be that the board, but also staff and your investors that are intelligently moving you down the playing field so to speak. So that becomes that's the art of of all of this. I would say, right. Just like dating. Just like parenting just like being a good teacher. All all of that. This is just applied to the building of company and dealing with money. It's so interesting because you know, I said, you know, you care about food because you're tasting it. And then you went onto describe a whole bunch of other things. And I think that's such a great example that of something that I talk a lot about when I work with entrepreneurs. And that is that actually people invest in business models. They don't invest in in the food per se. Right. It's the whole context within which that food is being made. That is is so determinative of whether the company will make money, whether the mission will be achieved all those things. Yeah. Is another example is working on its climate impacts in working on its relationships with indigenous people and South America, where the your Monte tree grows. They're they're reinvesting back. They're they're looking at the entire cycle and system that ends up with me standing here with a bottle and sipping year Matei in Vancouver. And so the the more depth another company that we're really proud of alter EKO. Very fair trade organic chocolates with other snack products. Their dedication to the small farmers in the Andes that are growing keen wa I said snacks chocolate. But they also built the company on Kane wa and other fair trade products. They reached the point where they were ready to sell the company. And together with us. We went out and searched and we found one of those family offices family office being a large family and a lot office. Hesitating that manages investing. And so those are different beast than mention capitalist or selling to big corporation a lot of times, they wanna have a long-term hole might if they if they get a company that's doing something that matters and is steadily producing a revenue to them and doing a good job. They're not as quick to a lot of the lot of the financial entities in the world are based on moving through growing something very fast, and then flipping it or selling it or taking it public. So family office is can be favorable. If you're interested in the long-term so alter-ego sold to a family office, which as part of the transaction committed to create a foundation, the that the original entrepreneurs will be managing to support the fair trade movement globally. How wonderful. Great. That is wonderful. I bet you are proud of that. Yeah. And and it's it's interesting that that you so you invest you meaning adventure venture capital fund invested in a brand and then sold it to family office. And I just think it's interesting because I would have what's more natural. My head is the reverse scenario in a way. So it's very it's very interesting. Will the well the truth of it is creative and multifaceted. As humans are. Yeah. Well, and I think we get to be creative around all of this to support these these brands that have a larger mission, and the you know, what I mean 'cause the make helping the money align with the time horizon of the mission, right? Yeah. I I was. Yes. It took various privileged background and access that I had to make a decision like this. But I knew quite a while ago that I wanted any money that I had responsibility for to be involved with making the world better. Right more fair cleaner, safer. And that that there are plenty of business opportunities involved with overhaul and transportation systems, build how buildings are done. How energy is created? How food is created how we protect soil and on and on. And we really do have this choice. How we purchase how we would Bank. Which is how we how we use whatever financial resources we have and for those who don't have much financial resource. The good news is that things like organic food. You get to a controversial point with the growth of something that was very pure and deeply motivated by carrying about soil, and and reducing toxics and in all kinds of important issues. And then you find out WalMart law Martin now. Amazon target these big retailers have found that there is a market and they're getting WalMart. A couple years ago was the biggest seller of organic food in the world that crazy. And so you then go like WalMart 'cause they do this, right? But, but when you think about could we call it food Justice. Who gets to have clean food. Right. Is it good or bad that WalMart is helping the the scale of organic food grow and thus getting prices lower right people who aren't just the the affluent. So it's a it's a complex world, but good news is red, vanishing, and we're advancing. It is. Yeah. Yeah. And I just I for one thing. It's a great thing that organics are in a place like like, WalMart because of the issues they you talked about and because of the impact the difference in terms of the environmental impact of of organic food versus non organic production. Yeah. The more acres we can get into organic production. The better. Yeah. Yeah. So you you work in organic food. But it sounds like you're doing some other things to do. And I the. The the food interest and that health situation and remember that our member to say a friend gave me her kidney eleven years ago. You didn't remember to say that? That's amazing. Yeah. And everything worked out. Well. But what what this all led me to was to start thinking about because of the kidney is the filter of the blood. And I I realized I need clean blood in all need clean blood, and I gradually. Thought about money like I do food. It's fuel to that causes things to happen. And I'd like to have cleaner money. Than. Yeah. As well as cleaner food, and so a couple years ago with a with my friend tie bridge as co author wrote a book called the clean money, revolution, reinventing, power, purpose and capitalism. Why not take why not take on a grandiose topic? There's a thing a big thing to take on. Yeah. And so I've I've I spend a lot of time. Now looking at the flow of money, and how to just the same things we're talking about with organics. How do we get more consciousness attention to how money is made grown placed? How does it affect workers and people all over the planet and the places, and I think that I think that the next frontier on organics is what's or Ganic money? So you wrote the book, and what do you think the next frontier is what does that look like, I guess is a better question. I think that principles that I've spoken about around food and investing apply which is. Where does it come from? Who does it affect and what does it affect and I'm no longer comfortable just looking at the return rate. And then finding out that I'm poisoning Moore, other people's babies may that I'm employing slave labor that I'm that. I'm I'm creating privatized prisons, I'm in the gun business, you know, and on and on and and just like food was thirty something years ago with those early stories we're just starting to look at. The that these these questions about what's my Bank doing with my money. You know, those comes next. Yeah. Well, and I think like to what happened in two thousand and nine really did get people thinking about I don't think I really wanna put my money in the stock market anymore. And yeah. And I think one of the when I think when I see things around here, so willy coop is our local co here there, they have three stores, they're not a small thing anymore, and when they they needed to do remodeling on one of their stores, they did a bond offering and in that that was their their first one it went I think they closed in. I think it was like six weeks. They raised a half a million dollars at five and the minimum was five hundred dollars. So you can get around all the SEC stuff because there if you're a member or an owner, right? So they've gone onto by another store in under served community. A grocery store that constantly suffered up there in that neighborhood. And they bought it a couple years ago and our working their way, and it's doing better than they thought. It would it's still a profitable store for them. But even that that round closed in like six weeks. You've just told a great clean cleaner money story is in great. And just like we described the growth of organic foods. This is happening across the landscape. Now it remains small right? You start small and it spreads. And next thing. You know, and this is happening to us in terms of being a fund out raising money that we've hit a critical mass where where the term impact investing, which is kind of become the accepted. That's the that is your money. Fish kind of thing. But that we ten years ago when we walked into pitch someone they didn't they'd never met anyone who talked about applying values meaning and purpose to money and today as we as we raise money, we run into firm saying, I've got a dozen impact investment venture funds talking to me right now, we're going to be so busy with due diligence research and understanding them we won't get we won't even be able to look at you until until past your deadline. Isn't that crazy? It's it's crazy. And it's a big success. It is it is. And the other the other story. I you probably know know, the Iroquois valley farms, you know, them. Yeah. So so they've finally figured out a way to be able to allows non accredited investors. Invest because I feel like that's kind of the holy grail at the moment. That's right. So that term if. Yeah. Credited the government in its wisdom wants to protect us from being hustled mush ice tres. And so they there's a term that credited investor that basically says you've got enough money that you're that you could lose it. And that's not the end of the world. And you you should be sophisticated enough. Now, not to get hustled by just, you know, by by fraudulent sales of things like swampland, and you know, right? Right. Right. And and so so there was a struggle for a lot of years. What that meant was you basically had to be a millionaire to be able to make these investments and then things like crowd funding and these community bonds that your food store did eventually became. Has become legalized, and there's you know, you have to follow certain rules. But they're now a lot of different ways to go to places that that that put companies up on their platforms, and you can put fifty dollars in as an investor now into a lot of companies. So they say it's a democratization. I guess what that means is it makes access to more people to get to invest, you just as you don't wanna you. Don't want people to lose their home. Company. Still wanna be thoughtful about that. Right. Of course, of course. And it's, but, but it it was the way things used to be in a way, you know. I always I sort of feel like, you know, back in the old days. You lived in town and your kid wanted to open hardware store and the person who's going to invest his day. I, but it's also probably the other guy who owns the farm implements store. Right. They that we direct invested in other people's businesses much more readily on the past. Yeah. And it's also interesting because when I raise money for terrorist ways. So my more equity offering was to accredited investors only, and I pitched a lot of people in only one was a woman who was there to invest on her own. And it's I feel like this is another glass ceiling thing for women. You know, it's not that women don't have the money. I don't know. There's something about activating it somehow that it's an interesting thing. So they're two things. I wanna say about that one is there's a massive amount of money that will transfer to women and to young people a lot of it through death. Over this next year. I s tonight. There's fifty trillion dollars in North America alone that will transfer in the next three decades from elders to youngsters. That's why this clean money movement has the potential to make things happen. The second. I want to say is that money has been the domain of men for a long long time, and we could get into a long conversation about are there different values in different perspectives. But what I will say is I believe that we are in the midst of a spiritual evolution that is. Now, looking at these grand problems of ten billion people on the planet and climate change and species collapse and ecological disasters and political disasters. And. We are due for and we must have a feminization and inclusive ization and indigenous. Action of the of the of the economy in order to make it through to the long term. And so I firmly believe that. Feminisation? Okay. So that's women and the values that may come from. From that gender inclusive. Ization really refers to we can no longer have the economy just run by one one of type of of people. We're we're living in very diverse times. And we need diverse opinions and inputs, and we have diverse customers and the indigenisation going a little deeper we've left behind the values to a large degree of land-based people whose whose purpose was to see that future generations could thrive and we've lost a bit of that in modern society. Also, and so those kinds of values are going to be necessary. If we're gonna make it through the period that that that I believe. We're in right now. And so those are very very important things to think about to invest in and to support the conversations around. Yeah. Yeah. So well, my what what the the one woman I pitched to. Which she did was set up a little LLC and brought in a whole bunch of women into they'll see so that that entity because I was an LLC at the time, I was raising money. So that they could invest together in the company, and it took, you know, it's at my minimum was one hundred thousand dollars. So it took the requirement down. So everybody didn't have to write the check for that amount. And it it was just a wonderful entry way for some to get some women in our local community it just engaged with equity investing. So you know, it takes baby steps to right? Does things change faster and faster. But it's never as fast as the individual. What the world is everything looks pretty obvious to me. Let's clean up our act, right? I know I get it. And it's going to happen. Yeah. I know. And I'm speaking now, I'm in the mid west, right? I mean on the east coast of the United States, you know, this because you're in Vancouver. Just the whole thing people much more readily equity invest if you owned a garage, San Francisco, you're probably an credited investor now. So that's not happening in the mid west. So it is a different culture out here. But on the other hand, we our culture around business is much more built around long whole businesses. So this idea of building a company that you're gonna pass to your kids. You're not building to sell that is deep in our DNA out here. That's a really important point that we are. We are losing the values of of long-term and sticking with things. And so much of entrepreneurial Cup culture right now is build and flip. Right. And I think that that's I don't think that's a good. That's the healthiest way for the for society to work because lots of reasons so it's good to hear that those kinds of values are are staying strong in the mid west. They well. Yeah, I think Wisconsin has the highest number of family how companies have any state in the country in the United States. It's just staying insist Germanic business model thing here. But there's there's a lot to be said for it. You know, but you know, modern investors are into this wanna see hockey stick stuff. And and that doesn't always. End itself to being able to hold onto a company for a long time. No. And even though there are parts of the economy that can do that. I it doesn't feel healthy to think of that everything would work that way at all. Because there's a lot of damage inside of the negative side effects that come from. Right. Well, and I know it doesn't work in agriculture. So do you guys do investing in? Egg. We we that's too hard force there str-, you know, there's reasons that p P you it's hard to get in and get it's hard to get and it's hard to get back out. Yeah. It's really hard. Yeah. And so that's important and there should be. If somebody's wealthy having some portion in agriculture and forests, and and and kind of larger natural resources that are going to be looked at with some wisdom, and how they can sustain over the long term rather than of course, harvested all today and leave havoc right for the future. Wake. Yeah. And so I think that I think we're as you, you know, better than me that the movement certainly movement of young people believing that they'd like to have lives of farming. I I started at hot believing. I I was gardening scale. All right. So you are going to be a farmer at some point. I thought that I would be a farmer. I was seriously looking at it, and I stayed as a gardener. I I need to have my. Ends in soil. And and it's it's just such a such a meaningful experience to grow your own food, and to know, what's in it. And and to learn about the soil, and how things work and watch nature closely that way, so I think I think that's natural to humans as a species. But, but I have to now feel that I'm a farmer in a metaphorical sense. I say I say, I'm a gardener of the relational field. So that means how do you, cultivate, good energy good behavior? Good relationships in the in the human rooms because because for better or worse now humans can pretty much. Maker break the future of nature. Right. Right. So the so your way of doing this is is I would say like regenerative brands in a way that's part of what you know when you're thinking about brands that's part of the lens. I would just. I'm in a little bit to what you're saying. But yeah, well, let's say that regenerative Konomi would be the goal. What does that mean? How do we deal with the increasing structural obstacles to it or the way financial systems work? But we we won't we won't make it if we don't go back to thinking about soil as an and then use that as a metaphor for pretty much human activity, or we as as you probably know we've already for the first time in history proven that humans are affecting geological issues. And and climate change is going to the factors of climate change are further accelerating that so we got ourselves in a pickle. We need to look to the natural world to get some principles. We need to look at how land paste based people lived and how cultures that have sustained for a long time on lower exploitation of resources. And how do we apply that to the modern world? That's that's our one of our grand challenges. Yeah. Yeah. Wow. Is this what's in your book, by the way is kind of? Yeah. Okay. So because I'm like, wow. Where do we go? If we wanna think some more about this. And I thought oh, I bet it's in is book. So. Yeah. So what remind me what the in our listeners the title of your book is so we can find it clean money revolution money resolution. Awesome. And I'll tell you that it's personal stories. How did I come to my thinking? It's the stories of this movement talked about those early organizations and the natural foods expo. So what was the map of that from my own experience? I do a lot of interviews and stories about other people onto preneurs social change makers. And then so that's the middle part. And the third part is this kind of call to action on the ethical and moral. How do we how do we be good ancestors for the future and see that there is a safe clean fair future? So it was it's a call to action. And it's not a you don't have the solution. No. I do not have the solution. And it's also not a technical book. Right. This is not a business book tempting to put the use of stories and principles. Valuable. Yeah. And I have to I have to say, so when I did tears way I used to say because I opened we'd launched in the pit of the great recession. So where it was at a time. When boy my business colleagues had no idea where their businesses were going. You know, people were losing money left and right in there for one ks and it sort of felt like this incredible downward spiral. And I was starting this this way protein this organic way protein brand and company, and I felt like I was in an alternative universe. Because everybody wanted our products are our company grew really fast. You know, we had a green plan to people were really interested in that. So it was like I just felt like I was in an alternate universe. And and it was such a affirming thing, and it remains an affirmed thing for me because I do think that businesses like the impact. Businesses that you guys are screening for heaven incredible opportunity to change the world. We really do. Glad to fund a fellow traveler belief system because I think that the power of money business and finance can be used for very bad things, and it can be used to repair the world. I totally agree with that. So I am wondering if we have missed anything. Will there's got to be some mysteries left. Well, if there's no mystery. Yeah, I don't I know what's the intrigue in life with no mystery on. I mean, of course, we have. But you've you've covered. I'd say the distillation of whatever I have to say shows up in a book now. Yeah. And you know, and then and you should let's just keep to more more podcast. I think we should seriously. Yeah. Now seriously, I'm gonna be I'm going to be speaking on at expo west this year. And maybe I'll see you there. I'll be ABI in the five thousand in looking at five thousand foods. We'll the five thousand zone, you know, where the organic food Kausar, right? Right. Right. Exactly. Yeah. Or in the the way it used to be the basement like went the first year was there. I was like way in the back at the back room where all the little companies were and I was like oh my God. Nobody's gonna find me down here. What am I why did I even come? And it turns out that. That's where everybody goes because that's cool stuff is right. I was gonna say the five thousand or not that's just the walk through. But the basement, and then the upper levels in that new building where all the innovative stuff. Right. Right. Right. Exactly. We kind of nor the rest of it. And yeah, all the action is down there. So. Yeah. Well, hey, this is been great. Thanks so much for calling in. And I look forward to talking to you more in the future. I've so appreciated your you have a very lovely interview style into. Thank you very much for having me. Thanks for listening. 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How to develop a health-centric practice and enjoy the benefits

The Thriving Dentist Show with Gary Takacs

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How to develop a health-centric practice and enjoy the benefits

"This is the thriving dentist show with Gary Tax where we help you develop your ideal dental practice. One that provides personal professional. Don't financial satisfaction. Welcome to another edition of the thriving. Dennis Show I'm Gary Tech is your show Co host first. Swale happy holidays and Merry Christmas to those of you. That are celebrating. We hope all of our amazing listeners are having a wonderful holiday season well very excited. What about this particular episode in this episode? We're GONNA share some very specific tips with you To help you achieve dream of healthier patients in your practice and we're gonNA share some very specific things you can do to help. Your patients take a greater interest in their oral health in the coaching and Action Section We're GONNA talk about some very specific things. You can apply immediately in your practice to help. Your patients take greater interest in their oral health and become better patients in your practice. And and they get to be the beneficiary of all that they get to become healthier in the second segment of the were going to be introducing the thriving. Dentists Interview Segment admit in this particular interview. I'm interviewing my longtime friend. Doctor James Goolnik. He's a dentist in London England. And we're going to talk about the amazing zing movement he is creating an English is literally a movement a health movement that he is creating an England that is not only benefiting the population elation of the UK but providing very specific benefits to his practice. Hey before we get to the The coaching action segment in the thriving. Dentist interview though You may remember that last time I introduced you to the fact that we were launching are thriving dentist one day. NBA We're doing ten locations in in the US in two thousand twenty and hope to see many of you listeners. Live at one of our ten. MBA sessions I'll be hosting next year For those of they'll be attending I'll be sharing with you very specific strategies that I've developed over the past thirty nine years that have helped me develop a thriving dental practice. The event that will be held across ten different cities in the US during the year. Two Thousand Twenty the first of which will be held in the city of Atlanta Georgia in February February Fifteenth Twenty Twenty Special offer to are thriving. Dennis show listeners. The tickets are priced at nine hundred ninety seven But until the end of the year until December thirty I will be offering a very special ticket price of just to ninety seven kind of early bird special by the way if any of you would like to win a free ticket to This first event be sure to listen to our something extra segment at the very end. This podcast interview so let me encourage you to register for that event. Hope I get to see a face to face in Atlanta on February fifteenth. Now let's talk about coaching an action. How to develop a health centered practice and enjoy the benefits? Hello everyone this isn't the Rainier Co host Medic Christmas If you're listening to this on Christmas Day I'm really excited about today's topic and the reason is I have talked to many. Dentists are a lot of friends who are dentists and One of the question. They asked them as you know. Why did you get into dentistry and almost always personal story about someone? They saw who who made a difference in other people's lives who was a dentist Someone in healthcare that they were inspired by auto personal tragedy. In sometimes something happened in the family and that inspired them to get into healthcare so every dentists are most horrid hints that have met get into dentistry. You know not not to make money but rather to help people. That's where they start but then I also talked to people five years out of dental school ten years out of dental school twenty s Adventus court many of them feel dejected. You know feel kind of like you know like like going back to the salt mine. Four hundred a day So something happened so today's episode. I know you WanNa talk about you. Know patients way excited about how and you know Health Center practice Gary. So why don't we just chat about this and Aaron. You you You raise some very good points I've had the same experience when when I asked Dennis on us Hey why did you choose to become a dentist Almost universally the the the answer is I wanted to go into a career where I could help people record help people and you know it's kind of interesting Narran I've I've experienced this as well that uh-huh I think an accurate statement is for most dentists. One of the happiest days in their life was the day they were accepted to dental school. You know at least to that point in their life away playing their life you know. Maybe since then they've got married maybe had kids and and maybe the become the new happy stand their life but up until that point the happy. Imagine the joy and elation of being accepted to Dennis Dental title school right. Yes because now. They're going to follow their dream. It's kind of interesting to cross. Check that years later. You know five years later. Ten years later fifteen years later and the sad reality is that they're not our listeners. Because I think our listeners are unique subset of dentistry. Our our our our listeners are passionate about dentistry. They're excited about district. They're they're happy with their career choices near would you believe that to be accurate across our listener. Sure base absolutely I think One thing that I notice is They get excited and they go to dental school and there stood like black. I won the lottery. That's the way they feel. But then you know like many people you know again. It's varying degrees right You know get over veteran by the system so to speak overwhelmed by the bureaucrats and and patient saying oh it's just a cleaning you know it's no big deal. You know like that other dentists you you know about me. And they bring that bag age into this practice all that daily Hammering right kind of whereas you down and then they ask them. Do you feel the same way you felt when you got into dental school in the answer is not attend. You know and again terrain and I hope our listeners are closer is it to eight or nine but but still I think it beats them down. Beat's office down indefinitely. The people who who are not in the journey of figuring out how love dentistry her. Love Life I guess less on that spectrum I read a read. Something interesting there and Within the last two weeks and I read that I don't know where this came from because I find that the data a little bit suspicious but Our report what I read what I read. was that a majority the of dentist knowing what they know now. So in other words the question was knowing what you know now would you still choose to become a dentist. I and I read that the majority answer was no was no. That was very sad to me and and very disappointing to me. By the way I don't think that represents our listener base. I think our listener base Feels differently about it. But that was the data and enable went on further to say that would you Knowing what you know now about dentistry would you steer your children to pursue a career as a dentist and again that that same report A study study reported that the majority answer was was no. They wouldn't now so I think we need to change that thinking and I think it's it's different among our listeners. Our listeners have passion about Dentistry And I think they love their career choice but in reality the I think one of the most frustrating parts about about Being in the dental profession and I hear this even in in my office and lifestyles is when the dentist cares more about the patient's health than they care about their health right. You imagine that I mean now. Of course you and I aren't Art Dennis. You're not a dentist so we don't have that personal experience. But I have the experience vicariously. Maybe shut US Tony. Let's say I'm a heart surgeon right. I'm going going into the surgery room and before I take put the patient down You know like you know dentistry shine everything. I'm talking to the patient. The patient says Oh you know. It's very degrading about what the Hudson is going to do. This guy's going to save his life right. Imagine how the session will feel doing that. You know that what important work that he's about to do. I have to laugh at this because unfortunately it happens all too often a new patient and I think this is something that every one of our listeners have experienced everyone of We have to be careful about using absolutes you know always never but I think this is something we could say. Every one of our listeners has hurt the new patient terms to the dentist and says no offense Dr but I hate Dennis first of all. That's a dumb thing to say as a patient to someone that's holding sharp instruments okay. I'm kidding I'm kidding. But ah every one of our listeners has has experienced had no and I don't I don't really mean I don't really think it's mean-spirited you know. I don't think this is someone trying to you. Know brutalize the dentist. But they'll I'll say without thinking a no offense but I hate Dennis And one of the ways I think we can overcome that. I mean they are going to say that to their heart surgeon. The like you said. Let's come back to resemble Arkansas's say to the cardiovascular no offense Dr Cardiovascular surgery but I hate cardiovascular so they're going to say they're going to say thank you for being here to help me the difference. They've of my life and so one of the things I think we can do to guide patients to take a greater interest in their oral health in their oral health is to help them understand that their teeth and their mouth aren't isolated. You know it's not a visit to the the dentist just not about teeth and gums only but in fact the health of your mouth is a gateway to your overall health health and you know I think if we if we focus on that for just a minute we have a lot to celebrate Narran. Would you agree that you know as we're recording this we're about to go into the next accidentally made a two thousand twenty. Were about to go into the next decade. I don't believe there's been a time in our history where people have been more interested in their health than now. You think back I think people are I mean. Look we've got label information ingredient information on our food products. Wchs next week you will not be able to get a parking spot at the gym because it's New Year right and everyone's got new. Here's where you'll have to part. I love it when people go to the gym and they drive around for a half hour to trying to find a close parking spots they can go by the way. Just be patient about the third week of January. They'll be parking spots all over but would you agree that the public is interested in their health at an accelerated rate than they've ever been interested their health in the past hundred percent. I mean Are Two examples. Whole foods right Horford cells thing? That are three times more expensive. But you can't get a spot any of the. I don't care whether it's New Year's into the year and I mean people are jokes about it. Like in a whole foods whole paycheck check so expensive but still people do it because I think you know this is what happens as humans evolve in our lives. Lives get better and better as all get better and better and we have more discretionary income and things like social media and the Internet. Many of us believe. Leave that You know we have to take out you know. The system won't edify out. We have to be Catholic with you. Know what we eat how we take out of you know our bodies bodies our mouth and so forth so I think there's a general movement and again like I said twenty years ago thirty years ago there was a whole foods. I mean even there were there was like nobody went there. Yeah because they just didn't buy into the concept had more important things like you know basic so now Ford has become especially health has become something that we all value and I think it goes back to even the school system right like I have kids and they talk about this every day and they have a gym class and in what you eat and nutrients and then they bring it back to the homes and then parents into their eating and taking brushing their teeth and all that stuff any health is top of mind. I mean it's nicely and I think Today Day people want to live not only long lives. They Wanna live a long time. But I've recently been introduced to WHO A new phrase that I did know before. Peter Peter. Attiyah runs an amazing podcast. He's a physician and he introduced me to the concept of love. The t the term health span so we know the word lifespan right but health span as you might guess by the blending of those two phrases means that you live a long healthy life far so people don't want to just live you know into the eighties and nineties and maybe even a hundred years old but they want to be able to do everything everything they want to be able to You know walk in and enjoy fitness and they want to have their mental acuity they wanna be able to interact with their family They they want to keep their own natural teeth all their life. They WANNA have strong teeth and gums. They want to be able to e- anything that they want. They WanNa look and feel good when it comes to their dental health. And they want to be able to do that into their eighties and nineties and an older and the great news is Dennis. We can do all that for them. So what I'd like to do narrowness talk a little bit about some of the things that our listeners can do to help our patients some of the subtle things we can do to help. Our patients take a to understand the and the connection between over Orel and overall health and one of those things varies. We've been doing this for years My practice is part of our record taking. We take patient's blood pressure right one thing. I WanNa just emphasize before you get into the details. Getty is It's all about mindset right. I mean if a patient things or just under the cleaning them mindset is afford a reason. Whatever you guys do is not important right? Well could I be. Can I be candid about that. For just a minute Sadly I think many dental professionals accidentally you do that. I don't believe it's intentional But they might say You know it's just a cleaning You know you're healthy. You just just need a cleaning and I think we need to eliminate that word just as as as dental professionals. It's never just cleaning because in fact It's it's a gateway for us to help the patient get on a path for greater health and so I think we need to be mindful all about the words that we use the phrases that we use the attitudes that we act subconsciously conveyed to our patients like for example the patient to calls in and and let's say they're they're giving you a courtesy call and they call in and say hey Carli. It's scary I'm scheduled later this week for Arm scheduled tomorrow tomorrow for Hygiene appointment. But I've got a lot going on tomorrow and are not gonNA be able to make that without thinking there. Many team members say. Oh that's okay it's actually not okay. It's now I understand if someone has an emergency and they have to reschedule a point. I get that okay. Like if they're going to get fired hired for the job at work if they don't if you keep canceling set an appointment that means you don't think it's important you know and you nope think about this for a minute. I hope our our listeners. never experienced a cancer episode In their life but if they a are diagnosed with cancer and they have to go to oncologist. Can you imagine calling your oncologist and say I know it's a totally different realm totally different different world totally different situation. I get it but can you imagine calling your unconscious te and say hey. I'm scheduled to see on Thursday but I've got a lot going on at work. I just need reschedule. That that's never going to happen right a appointments with your cardiologist. You're not going to reschedule those and Yeah I get you know that the dentistry for the most part is not life and death. It can be though you know it but it's not most of the time but I think we need to reframe name the language that we use a doctor's things I encourage you to do is here. We are at the beginning of the airport. My goal for you by the way if I could just take a detour for just a minute is to make twenty twenty your best year yet your best. Whatever it's been in the past I want to exceed? That wasn't twenty twenty. Be Your best year yet. And thank you so much. For sharing your precious time with us a thriving a show We're committed to helping you achieve that goal. Make Twenty Twenty your best year yet but one of these you might want to do is just having a discussion with your team about the language that we use with patients and what what if you know we. We work with your team that when we get that call that I've got had to reschedule my appointment What if we attempt to save that appointment kind of like the the pitcher in baseball pitcher the comes in late in the game to save the game? What if we're going to save the appointment Kennedy role play that Gary just so also narrowing your calling carly and you say hey Carli I just I need to give you a call? Because I've I've got a yeah. I'M GONNA be honest right a lot of times anytime I canceled something or risk do something for me. That thing is not important right. The other thing that just showed up is more important than the commitment. I made to this person right. That's the only reason people typically cancer. They never cancel the appointment with a cardiologist there in noodle surgeon any of those people that's because they feel it's important this is not right so I'm some something came up. I'm calling my dad loves and saying Hey Collie icon make it you know something. I didn't came up. I thank you so much for the courtesy of the phone call. Aw I wish all of our patients whereas courteous as you add. Hey I understand but I happen to a pull up your record it here while we were talking and I remember the very first time that you came in It was a difficult hygiene appointment Because it'd been awhile since you've been to the hygienist I it was a difficult hygiene appointment and I would love to avoid those kind of appointments for you in the future. Is there anything you can do to rearrange your schedule scheduled. Keep Tomorrow's appointment because not only is this just a hygiene appointment No is this a Hygena by Ivan used were just. They're so off of role play for just notice. How just fit into my language so easily there all right so tomorrow when you see Kelly So I'm using positive Lang tomorrow when you see Kelly. She does a lot of things that contribute to your overall health for example. One of the things that she does is she does the American Cancer Society Oral Cancer Exam and a visit to see your hygienic as a lot. More than just your teeth feeling fresh. Is there anything that you can do to rearrange tomorrow. Schedule the KEYPAD. Now make one attempt make one attempt to save the appointment now if Narran comes back and says hey. The boss called an emergency meeting at work. And if I don't go I'm lose my job I get it and then I'm gonNA reschedule you but make one attempt and if you can tie something back to the connection between oral systemic DEMOC health tar you talk about the American cancer associated with cancer exam. One of the things we do is we do a screening that is a way for us to make sure that you're not at risk for oral cancer one thing. I wanted to point out his. Get it and argue with the person he disagreed with the person right you can. You can never win an argument. When you're on the opposite side what he's doing is shifting the mindset he shifting the mindset from or just under the hygiene pine mental? It's not that important. Compared to other appointments admits to this is very very important and giving it giving them reasons something the person can touch feel and of course you used the cancer example. But I'm sure there are ten of example yes you could've used because you have to shift the mindset from Oh man I have to do this again and have better things to do to you know what this is important to me. The same people who go to the whole foods are the same people who come to the office. Same people go to starbucks and P five bucks for the coffee and stand in line for in ten minutes of the same people people who are coming to your office so it just that for some reason they think starbucks is good and whole foods good and coming to you is not that good so you shift that mindset you. Oh you made me think about something. Here Narran You know are working with you with with Digital Marketing Agency One of the things. You've helped the understand. Is You want to attract the right patients to your practice in the first place because when you attract the right patient patients into your practice actes they already have a health. Might so you don't have to create one in their mind. They already have it and you now help them understand. The dentistry connects to that and so two audiences that we found of the very useful at lifestyles that you and your team have helped us are imminent limited. I'm going to repeat an example that we've used people that shop at whole foods and people that do yoga right right so those two audiences people that shop at all foods and people that do yoga are great new patients because they likely already have baseline of appreciation for health Because of their behavior. And it's probably going to be an easier task of Helping them understand the connection between on systemic health that it would be for general population. You know general population so You know You have a helped us market to the right people in the first place so that more people come in with the mindset of appreciating health health. And you know a for our listeners. Equa would be happy to do a free marketing analysis To sit down with you and evaluate your current marketing marketing And let you know how you're doing with very specific data but also Make some suggestions for you of what you could do in the future that it would be different and and One of the things I might suggest as having a discussion with them about how to attract the right people in your practice. Think about that nerine. Would I rather attract a patient that the only the reason they chose us is because we're on their insurance plan that's the only reason they chose us now. And then you end up paying the insurance company thirty eight percent to get or would I rather attract someone that already has a baseline of health interested in health helps a high priority and now they're interested in finding a dental office that that matches their Beha- their belief system If we're GONNA do something fun. In in the next segment we're going to be interviewing My wonderful friend Dr James Goolnik From London two and James is literally as a dentist is creating a movement it has practice a and not not as a movement commit in England about health And it's truly amazing and It's it's creating incredible results not only in the the the general population but as the leader of this movement. He's enjoying the benefits of that As the dentist I that is leading this campaign He's written a book He's doing wonderful Public Education campaigns And if I can let the cat out of the bag The topic that he's passionate about is helping people understand The the risks the extreme risks of excess sugar consumption excess sugar consumption job and He's critic campaign Hashtag kick sugar And it's amazing is created a cookbook. We'll talk about that cookbook in the interview. he's connected with some of the best chefs in London and they've written a sugar free cookbook book And they're creating all kinds of media exposure and all kinds of cool they. This is simply an example of hopefully this will serve as inspiration to you our listeners of what they might do you know what they might do at a grassroots level or community level To be seen as the leader of a campaign that helps people become healthier. And I'm really excited to share that interview with our listeners. Because James doing some very very cool things. It's a topic he's passionate about up. It's a topic that is due to Receive Public Spotlight Because Sugar consumption is at an all time high and you know sadly it's because many people aren't informed about the ills of excess sugar consumption. So very excited about that interview but Narran thanks for bringing up this topic today. Because has I really believe that. It's about mindset It's about all the things we can do in practice that I mentioned a little simple thing earlier we got derailed but a simple thing that we could do is start start taking patients blood pressure by taking their blood pressure One of the things that it does is start people thinking about wait a minute when you're taking my blood pressure it's not just about my teeth and gums. Is it about my overall health. Just a simple thing that we could do that can Have Ripple Effects Throughout your patient base. I I imagine in many of our listeners. Do that but I'm sure there's many don't and so that might be something you do Differently in two thousand twenty. Start taking your blood pressure. Start sharing that information with your patients explain. Why you do that An intern helped them understand that. Wait a minute this isn't this isn't just a dental appointment is it. It's about I overall health. One thing I just want to add is if you take away one key pine from this whole podcast today. It's about mindset so as a professional if you want your patients to take as much interest as you did take out you need to think about how do you shift their mindset and Getty said ideally find the people who already have that that health centric mindset so if if you take away that lesson focus on mindset around health center patients. You're going to have a great twenty twenty Darren. I WanNa close this coaching action segment with a sensitive topic but a very important one And that would be to everyone listening to this one of the best things you can do when it comes to helping. Your patients is to model all the behavior that you want them to exhibit right. Imagine a doctor. Goolnik Talking to his kid his his kids about reducing sugar consumption and at every meal. You know having sugary desserts that wouldn't be consistent with it now and so the sensitive topic that I want to bring up is one of the best ways to help. Our patients take a greater interest in having great oral. Health is Dr for you and your team members to model that themself to have great oral health themselves for you and your team members and so so doctors I know it's sensitive but I want to bring it up Is your smile perfect is it ideal does it look ideal to you. are your is your mouth were stored if there have been issues in the past and so one of the best things you can do is you can model that To your patients and I would do this for all your team members as well. Your team members should exhibit great oral all health themself. Because they have an. I'm talking about a beautiful smile. That is also very healthy So it's it's beautiful aesthetically But it's also very very healthy as well And so let's maybe a thing that you could do in in twenty twenty is work on a getting. Oh you and your team member As healthy dental as you possibly can when it comes to Aesthetics as well as restorative. And then you'll be able to model that to your patients Asian so I think it will have a wonderful effect on the fact that not only. Do you do this. But you represented yourself. That makes sense absolutely gary it makes total sense and I think it's a great time to start right at the beginning of the year. Two Thousand Twenty. It's like a new decade so it's not just a new decade. We'd what what better way to do that. So hopefully we've given you things to To think about when it comes to achieve the dream of healthier patients in your practice And now we'll go on to that Thriving Dennis show interview with Doctor. James Skolnick well. I mentioned in the coaching inaction segment of this podcast episode. We're going to have a wonderful friend doctor. James Goal Nick as a guest on the show. Hey James how are you. I'm really well Gary. Thank you so much invites me back. I think it's the third one I've done now with the house. It's wonderful to hear your voice. First of all happy holidays days. We were hearing in the middle of the holiday season. So happy holidays to you and your family and your team thank you very much. It's yeah we. We had a wonderful discussion with our listeners. About helping patients helping patients take a greater interest in their oral health and I shared with our listeners. The wonderful project that you are leading and I want to spend some some time and talk about your kick sugar campaign and your rewards project campaign because literally it is becoming a movement in the UK you K.. Is that fair to say yes it is that is it. I get more dental professionals. A mental team members to integrate and to the discussing patients about how they can actually get healthier. Get off sugar. We're so lucky. As dentists being the first people the pool of cool when when while patients diets gang slightly off kilter way see the damage. The sugar does to that teeth and gums within a few months with lucky to actually Betas gatekeepers Something's going wrong here. And the full the good to type two diabetes Cardiovascular Disease Obesity ask Ah cancers that we can actually say. Hey let's do something about it eight you know. Of course I know the genesis behind this project But I I would like our listeners to know the motivation and Genesis to this project. Would you be kind enough to share Some slots about why you wanted to spearhead this project. Yes show Gary Leah. I'm a parent of three children and I was getting more and more. I'm frustrated by a all the sugar trish to them all day long Martin my Daughter was too and she had a I had cats and she was so excited is to be like like like mummy having a I had cap. Daddy's bit like Gary doesn't need as heck Mommy does she got really excited. You sat that really still had a Finished and I was with her. She said excited and as she sat down the first thing the headrest the did average average top of candy came out and said Hey we got emily done such a good job. Here's you can be his tree sitting. Still She's she. She looked at me. Like why am I having this autumn. Get candy a high and what what I needed and I say no. I need to do that. Wouldn't it be better to give you a certificate with the look of hair. Say well done emily coming to the headdress said she would then stick to go on the wool. We'll have friends and relatives would see that and advertise the business wealth and giving getting them bit of candy that excites fifth half an hour and then she forgets about afterwards so we need to do something about all the sugar this push to children and the more I research looked at my older children. School is that she realized the sugar. school should be Protected Zone sugar-free Zion. They should be taught nutrition and healthy eating. They shouldn't have to go and we realized that actually that have been pushed Old Day they're having more sugar in a day at school cool than that really. The recommended allowance in the whole week. I thought I can't. We need to do something about this. So we set up the charity rewards project looking at how we would without children with things other than food and sugar and then realize actually my older skit schools. They do well in the test. Chocolate bar is going on. Where where was the association between when we we do? Well we get through OV- sugar and then realized that the behaviors that we're learning as children will teaching our children and transfer and how we reward ourselves that Oh so we had a tough day. A lot of people within reach for chocolate boxes Themselves up on also whereas correlation. This is crazy so we've done more work with five hundred schools in the cat. Looking at West she comes into Eh Diets and how we can change the advice in playoff scenarios associated with that you can swap low sugar versions and does educate them as we have for sports day and I will give him the list the squash drinks and then giving Ciro balls saying. Why are you giving that to the the teachers know gang will then? The children need them for the energy. They went but Iran if they haven't got sugar insulin. Hey you're teaching. My children. Nutrition is going on here. It's the that's what they're rewards was set up when it's a registered charity. Now we're working with five-hundred schools looking at these things and giving them simple swaps to change it and from there it was like okay. This is not just a problem with our children. This is a global problem and with adults as well all of the reward and how we can look at it I mean is this is Nada simply a UK problem or a US problem. It's literally finally around the globe and there's a whole culture around sugary rewards. That is just as crazy as and I've actually had a talked more and more parents was fishy as a as a dentist were talking. And they're saying this is happening with my school then listening to me but there listen to you because is your dentist and you've got this charity so in writing to the schools on that Bohol saying hey this is wrong. This is the evidence to show is wrong. We need to do something combat so having an engagement now having conversations one school at times I WANNA change it. We want to have a sugar. Free School The manufactures of some some of the products are changing slightly but the the scary bidding on the same same must be in the. US is instead of just cutting down the sugar at slowly so people don't needed as much. They just putting official Sweden. So what's happening with craving that sweetness. I know the artificial sweeteners may not be giving us. Dental insult carries an abbot calorific problems but was still a pilot. Still craving that sweet taste. And the scariest thing I've noticed is ninety ninety. Five percent of toothpaste on the market at the moment have offficial sweetness in for the first thing we put in our house in the morning has got that sweet taste. And it's mad so pilot is like wildland aiming vending list sugars happening as if we're not then getting the sugar. We then create light more sugar and there's been Lazarus said if you have autism sweeteners. Use have more tweet than having no sweetness so saying Kate we need to do something about it and the best bit research. I found which I'll I'll send a post physio. Listeners can see is off the six days of cutting down on processed foods is not sufficient sweetness. Your pal recalibrate. So when you have something sweet distaste so sweet and so if anyone's try this down things newsline diet coke enough to you having off today. Seven suddenly so disgusting. Why did I even like that? And that's all it took was six six days six days. So what we've done is I've got together with the nutritionist and a couple of chefs Could Kick Suga which is go to a full team day Camila plan says go breakfast lunches and dinners for fourteen days all with low sugar all delicious foods and we realized actually that you can change flavors it just using natural herbs and spices. In Seoul's at Robin just chucking. Sugar Putin's Lazy it makes everything tastes Beca data. It hides batting gradients manufatures put in just because it's the preservatives. That makes editing cell and last longer. But we don't need to do that time so very simple. Recipes make Rayvey easy mo vegetables. I've shown ways that you can cook vegetables. Seven different ways to make it just so much tastier and then people that go through the fourteen days at the end of the go. Wow and then they can put back whatever they want afterwards but they realized that palace changed. And think wow. There's there's a whole lot of layers. I'm be missing all these different things have not had before just tastes different. There's like an awakening. I WANNA come back and we're going to talk a lot more about the book but I want to circle back a little bit and go back to rewards project for just a minute. We had a wonderful pre production discussion. You're on skype before I hit record and I'd love you to share With our listeners. Some of the cool things that you have found useful to swap. I think he used the word swap culturally so instead of do something Nice. Get something sugary. You've come up with some amazing swaps that Some of them. Frankly frankly have surprised you and I at the appreciation and the value of some of these. Would you mind sharing some of that with our listeners. Love to that was the one barrier. That would come up to be listening if I'm not going to give somebody a chocolate. But how do I give them. Talk is cheap and easy to get hold of us being lazy to think about it and we found actually the biggest surprises stickers. People laugh stick as doesn't matter how old they are. They actually love stick as we found this on. I started this off by. We've about seventy different stickers for our children when they come in they do well if the visit the dentist and we've started by when adults come in and they've done really well that bleeding schools go down. Oh they're plaques goals gone down that John you've done such a good job today and I'm really impressed by the way you're cleaning at. I think you deserve a sticker and they look at me like Mike and then kind of started in a cheeky way. Yes but in fact just joking a little bit and there's like you could Z.. Him regress in series childhood. A Gay yes. I do. Deserve a stick Jameson. Gap as the whole box is thick. And we've got about sixty different varieties of stickers the brand into a practices right branding for the practice and he put honest. I've I've been good at the dentist today. There was a sticker and he's got a thumbs up we stick thicket on him and he goes down to reception team the reception team looking and he's pointing out like down with him is points in the reception. Siedle what changed governor today. I've been good. It's got it really. I want our listeners. To understand to wear your practice is located. It's called Bow Lane. Bow Lane dental and you're located in the city of London City of London financial distances wool Strafe Wall Street. I mean that's the way I was going to describe it as it's virtually league the Wall Street district eventual district of of London so your patients primarily are very sophisticated professionals bankers lawyers accountants accounts and the funniest thing wearing these lovely suits and I got the sticky lapel on a cake. I'm proud of his Dick and we do more and more I'll stick with them and they love it and we give them a choice and they really engaged with them and they just patients like and we united already but patients light motivation and and acknowledgement when that trying hard because most of them all. We found that really well and and the thing is obviously we talked about. This without team is actually just recognition. When somebody does well you they've actually solve gone above and beyond is actually just coolum out and say John? Brilliant Lian I'm really impressed with that. Thank you so much for the way you've done that so we do that in the morning. Huddle we make sure that we call out two or three people have done something special and make sure everyone knows why they've been cool now and it just. We need to give financial goals over time. It's all about actually personal recognition. But you gotTa do in the I time make it specific the actual thing rather than to say. Thanks for noticing today. You've done a great job. Okay that's not gonNA motivate me to come back as a nest. The mowing young. Yeah I'M GONNA Wet Really Hawk is like you know what the way he spoke to that. That the Janet softening when she was a bit nervous and how you turned around and really comforted that was exceptional. Thank you so much for spending the extra time with her. You need to be making specific On I some dentists thank people at the end of a day or the next day you gotta do there and then and if possible in front of the patient or in front team members to say in the huddle this is great and we found the we've got a private live. It was that group for our team just taking motivational photographs thanking people cooling out people doing good jobs rarely does make a difference. People get really really excited by his Berlin. I love this GotTa love to hear this James Because I'm looking to my right in mybookie my bookcase and I'm seeing the wonderful book written by Dale Carnegie How to win influence people and what. You're you're talking about here. Essentially is the twenty first century manifestation of some of the things that Dale Carnegie talked about almost one hundred years ago and it's fundamental and doctors. If if as you're listening to this if you happen to be you know experiencing high turnover in over in your practice or you can't seem to attract and keep the best team. I think this is a partial answer for sure. And maybe a very important partial answer What I found James and you won't be surprised to hear this what I have found that team members? Most crave most crave is recognition. Yeah Yeah I totally agree on that date on it. I have hard data when I asked Dennis. What do you think most team members want more of what do you think? How do you think most Dennis has answer that question action on the surface? Say what he thought team members want more of. What do you think they say? Dentists doctors always say money as a team they recognition EXAC- that's exactly the case And I'm not saying that that money isn't important or or financial reward is important in the overall scheme of things but lot. It's rarely number one for the team. It's recognition and you. You hit the nail on the head. James Win when you you said if you can be specific diffic- I it's it's going to be a compliment that's turbocharged. It's one thing for me to say to a dental assistant. You know that. Hey you did a good job today like you mentioned and that feels warm and fuzzy But it's a totally different level of appraise if you can say You Know Carly I. I noticed this afternoon When when Linda had it seemed like endless questions? You were just so patient and you handle that so well thank you the gary the other thing I've noticed log being the owner of the business the any trace from me is times I five than anybody else so if one of the nurses working with one of my dentist and they do exactly what I say they cool them out on it late thank thank them the rest of it they feel good but if that dentist tells may say actually Collie was working with his name is exceptional that patient am and I bumped into him the code or if you as Layton's a hey collier head them for Milan that you did such a great job with that patience thank you so much then get wow that's the double compliment that they hear it well okay so all the people who actually owned business owners it's really important. I know we have this whenever whenever you go into office when you not. Their production goes much better. Morale is high. They want you around and actually getting the brace from you as well. Okay okay. That's a double whammy said getting all the doctors to be praising timely and and sincerely but will say for you to do as well as like a double whammy. Hey can I have some fun with this for just a second with J. Of course you're familiar with my coaching work. I've had the wonderful privilege of coaching. You and your team author and You know in all the years Interestingly enough at the time of this This episode publishes. I'm about out to start my fortieth year in ministry kind of crazy but in forty years. I've I've often you know asked teams team members and teams teams You know if there was something that we could do to improve the practice what would be you know. What would it be And I get all kinds of great feedback in great You know great ideas and great information by asking questions and in all the years I've been doing this I have never heard you might be surprised to hear this James But I've I've never never heard a team. Member come up to me and say Gary You know what's wrong with this practice. I'm so darn tired of hearing. Thank you that if I hear it one one more time. I'm walking out. Are you surprised if I tell you. I've ever heard that surprising to know. Instead it's usually the opposite. It's I know I know Dr appreciates me. I genuinely know here. She is a good person. I know that but it wouldn't hurt if I could hear it a little bit more often. But that's usually the polite way of saying it definitely GonNa Post your Various social social media connections benefit you're very well connected in in different social media channels I'M GONNA post If you don't mind signed James MT Baker I'll post your twitter Lincoln other social media channels so that our our listeners can connect with you especially on the rewards project. I'll AH post The rewards project there as well That's a specific Social Media Account. That you have Erin you're on Instagram as well with on Instagram as well on the inside road rules project swell on them we wave at. She found that set. The funny little fights gossip awesome videos for all patients. Really make a huge difference. Actually make us human. He still think about. If you got prices why do they come to byline the woods about human connection about you. Listen to me and you take care of man and we make sure that I'll social media platforms show that because we're a bit playful with the fun Normal dental practice and I think that's one thing I've nicest who some trucks is. When they outsource social media you tell about salsa is not that personality and I think he's really important when people I see all social media my social media stuff they actually think this is the practice that Wanna bail aaagh? This guy went on to talk because they can see the congruency. While post those links in the show notes SHOTS AROUND THRIVING DENNIS DOT com. I'll post so goes on the show notes. I'd encourage you to follow Follow James Follow his Rewards project follow Bow Lane Dental Per for a couple of reasons one is is to see what he's doing with the whole campaign around kicking sugar But also see a wonderful example of a practice that is truly using social media in its best and In his best format is best way. Hey let's come in and talk about the book So you have have authored. A book called Kick Sugar and this it subtitled titled Reawaken. Your taste buds and boost. Your health would awesome title. Thank you very much as it does. Just that does your copy is on its way garrick. So you're going to get to try some of the recipes but we. We had so much fun making this. I obviously as a dentist Should does amounts until all teeth are not gums but once we swallow it. I'm a bit more clueless. So I teamed up with a nutritionist John Phillips to look at what happens to bodies and then I'd go to professional chefs and a psychologist. Think about why. We're having sugar when we're having sugar and then how we can cook some delicious recipes. That notoriously have sugaring as you mentioned the the ketchups the PASSOS's and that she made people understand about about how you can cook in a different way but have delicious. Easy Family Friendly Recipes Anna. She changed a pallet and she feel better at the end of it because he doesn't want to have that house and better energies so we had we had so much fun making it we. We had visibly developers looking at it at hat and yet two weeks with the thing of recipes and one thing that's been brilliant because it doesn't come out until the second of January but we've imprinted them in. I came out a couple of weeks ago. So we've been working without patients on them and actually it's just a novel tool to discuss nutrition diet so if we're talking to patients and we spend time on going through diet APP see any diseases and Kayla. This is a tool for your G Like cooking of you. Have you thought about what sugar does you. Buddy ah you thought about your taste and then we get the book at. We have a chat with them and they bought the book which goes to charity but also they actually think okay. There's something we can do about it. It's not it just most dentists when they find a cavity that fluoride in May say come back in six months. They may have drinking busy doing so. You having snacks. But that's that's about as far as they go and there's a lot more to that as dentists was so lucky 'cause we can see the damage. Sugar does quickly I K. We can do something about this we waco. Seo The dental disease cheap dental bills and you feel better you say you James I I don't mean you james but but I mean as a dentist you'd have an amazing voice for this right. I mean it's so obvious right. Maybe Dennis honest you're at the front line of this battle its way out of the front line with baffling every single day. The damage that sugar does to take we can see it. We see when our patients subtract things we can tell enough patients pregnant. We get to see patients much more regularly than the physicians do. And they're listening to awesome again K.. The something going on on hit. Did you know that tooth decay is one hundred percent preventable and most people think what cavities is. Philip doc comeback again I I need to have this. We can save you money. We can feel healthier ads and the key takes forever. It's simple just cut down the Sigmund doing the cubs and I still having a conversation about it because they've not had that conversation before and say well. Here's a tool that you can use to actually make the difference and people especially when they go. They've got young children as well. They get really motivates instead. You can't brush your teeth ten times a day and not have to K- it's all down to die if you're eating sugar and cops at Yoga have tooth decay and doesn't matter how much you brush. It doesn't matter how much toothpaste use whatever years actually say to my patients. Now you can brush teeth through just water if you're not having sugar in cubs at you don't need the toothpastes especially the toothpaste is full of artificial roberts. Weiji need is. It's only because you're feeling your your mouth with sugar. And then they start looking at ingredients and things like wow okay and I says as you do have both against the sugar is fine when you know you're having it and is every single day it's not breakfast lunch and dinner and what we're doing at the moment it's everywhere when you're having a series for the sugar and he doesn't even know about having a savory sandwiches that foolish sugar in the sources than than an evening's basically Bathing saving your whole body and sugar all day long that the sky research we had They dug up or they had a rail project cross Realm UK and they dug up three hundred did bodies and they they were three hundred and fifty years old at a day to them and they look to the skeletons in the Joe. Biden's in the teeth for those bodies in comparison to modern Gordon Day humans and they realize that they were healthier three hundred and fifty years ago today and they had almost zero dental care so that dentists about healthy mouths than we have. Now which is I think about it. Just some things that are more recent in our culture that you know the sugary coffee drinks that are so pervasive And just the sheer amount of of syrups and sugar that are in those flavored flavored. Coffee drinks that I think they're probably just about as popular in the UK is air here in the US and the entity drinks and all the rest of it. But it's just like the problem with it when you have that much sugar in your diet is the everything else. Tastes bitter severe Any vegetables will of Broccoli or anything. It just tastes awful. Because you've you've got this massive sugar high and everything else just doesn't work if you can get that sugar high down and getting get down to a normal range sudden you'll pilot changes and you think. Wow Fassulo Swab Broccoli tastes like this is what I can't. It's like a flavor. Explosions is so cool. When people get it well you you? You unlocked the mystery earlier in our discussion. When you said this isn't something that has to go on for for weeks and months and years to change your palate? It's nine six days six days and you've got fourteen days And then it's a matter of okay now I've got that. What do I want to reintroduce like? I'M GONNA be introduced juice small a more fruits. I'm going to reintroduce alcohol or whatever but for the fourteen days you just got to be strict on it but it's not like a die this is like this is the way lives with you. Can you can enjoy your food tasty real food. But you don't have to go with it. You shared this in passing but I want to take a minute amplify it. You mentioned that. The proceeds cruces of the sale of book are going to a charity. Can you talk about that charity. Yes all the books against that. Basically as a Bolan my business I spent twenty five years is repairing the damage. Sugar guns while teeth and I think I wanna give back in some ways that we paid rule. The charity set up costs. We pay all the books so every penny any from the book that will get us to the rewards project and we are using it to go into schools a necessary to re educate the children about healthy eating how it's actually really great. See Dental professionals. How friendly as much fun? Experience is going into the catering companies and schools to show the actually Every single day of the week There are healthy. Things Cook Breakfast is that you can do with eggs and porridge and things rather than just giving a rubbish average cereal and actually just educating themselves. Really educating them engaging them sugar free said from that within more more challenges with the workplaces replaces what we did is. Our team is that we got them to sign a charter. The beginning to say if you would like to do the fourteen days Sugar Challenge and will oh providers a business lunch for two weeks at all you have to do is provide. Breakfast is a Dennis as long as they are. Sugar Free We. He will do that for two weeks. You fill enormous live at the beginning to say that. What your energy levels cloudy Skins lives leaves than they do. The same survey the ended two weeks an and led. The team will sign ups this job to lunches free for two weeks and music. Transformation we had one of nurses had sugar in coffee for the last twenty years has given up on this four months ago. It hadn't had single sugar Kofi since that because we just realized that actually needed so just getting people people feeling healthier from that is something some encouraging dental team members to actually solve join empower the that teams be healthier. Try Try. The sugar challenged two weeks. We have a private facebook group. So when you get the book at you'll get invited to the facebook group we've got nutritionists dunk two psychologists I'm That can help now. People on the questions they will. I use this every day. What can I swap it with to give them help and advice through the whole two weeks and actually then they realized that actually Palette changes they learn more skills like the seven ways to cook vegetables and at the end of it? Wow this is great. I'd I like to provide the The URL For the for the website for the book it's www dot kick sugar dot co dot UK Okay Dot Co dot UK. I'll put that in the show notes again the show notes or at thriving Dennis Dot Com. And I want to be very specific about guiding our listeners James for for for your benefit I'm going to give to recommendations so first of all the book comes out on January second I would It comes out on Amazon and one of the things that can help you James. Is that if you get a lot of book purchases Shortly after launching the book look it can propel you to be an Amazon bestseller so after listening this this this episodes coming out on Christmas Day it's coming out on December twenty fifth holding. Hold on hold off on ordering the book until January second January third. Generally for something like that. That's my first recommendation and go go to. WWW VW dot kicked sugar dot CO DOT UK. And my second recommendation is. It's not only the beginning of a new year coming up but it's the beginning of a new decade you thought about that James Yes and symbolism right twenty twenty Titians nations brilliant exactly. But here's what I want our listeners to do not only do I want you to buy the book for yourself by it for each one of your team members and share it with each of your team members as your gift For a a you know per leadership in guiding them to a healthier in your future I think it's going to be a wonderfully received gift I've seen the book it's amazing And I it's a treasure so by book for yourself a buy it for all your team. I don't imagine object to that would you james. That's great and when you buy it said you'll be invited to facebook. Community will connect till Narran any questions. I'm really happy to help. Empower your teams get healthier and also empower that patients as well because we have a brilliant voice and we're not using it so let's use it and that she take time engaged with them better and get healthier James. I want to take a minute and say thanks to you. I appreciate all you're doing Not only in the dental profession. But what you're doing the broader population to help people live healthier. Happier lives You've committed your life to to doing this and You know I'm convinced that There's a segment of our population that I can identify as givers and I'd like to think that all of our listeners are givers but you're certainly one of those people that that that I think it was a poster child for that Descriptive your giver And I know every time I'm with you. I I feel invigorated recharged and more excited to go out and make a big difference in the world. So thanks thanks for all that you do. 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Episode 380 - Danny Jolles

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Episode 380 - Danny Jolles

"This week's episode of probably scientists brought to you by the great courses plus who are offering probably science listeners. Three full months of access to all of their lectures for just thirty dollars visit the great courses plus dot com slash probably book to probably sites. I'm Mike I'm andy would. Hey we're doing another remote recorded episode. Nothing's changed in that regard. Yeah nothing has changed. We're still messing around with different software options so hopefully this one workout hoping the sound last week week route was good I very excited about this guest. Both a very very funny standup and also a cost member crazy as friends and someone. I wanted to mature for a while. It's Danny Jealous. How's it going? Danny Oh my gosh. What an Intro You know I mean we're getting through this thing we sure It's it's wild. It's a wild time while time to be alive but we are GonNa take it day by day. What what part of town are you in if I can ask? I'm in I'm near Franklin Right across from the Celebrity Scientology Center is sort of my general area. Okay so perfect is obviously. You're there anyway so it's just you know sorting commute right. Oh Yeah of course my favorite spot. I'll tell you there's no place. I like an endlessly Mike off. I wish I had noculars and could look in but they keep it so locked down. It's very hard to see what they're up to. And they're so fascinated the fact that the word celebrity is in the title of the building. It's just so blatant you'd think that organization but keep it secret that there was a different place for people they've deemed to be better. I'll tell you what's what's what's way crazier is the amount of security they have on the outside. It's like it's like guards patrol the outside of that building. Twenty four seven if listeners. Haven't seen this place. It's worth a google. Google Scientology Celebrity Center because there are a number of big scientology buildings But this one is the most ornate and impressive looking at his across the street from also the COOLEST COMEDY. Theater de la weirdly. Oh yeah and it's it's built like a. It's building a mansion and you can't get a sense for how big is unless you do a full loop of it because it's it's it's I think it it's big. So Danny we'd like to ask our guests this before we get deep into the stories What what if anything is your background in science no scientology but the other type of sign. Sure fake science. Exactly exactly the pretend science than they do in the lab in the labs and all that by the way that's range from like people who had a clause that they liked hated school or college or used to blow stuff up in the woods with your friends or you are a working professor for a while before you started doing comedy. We've had everything across the spectrum. Certainly well I'm not the I'm not the ladder. I'm the whatever the first one is I'm I mean I. I was a good student That is a like I was always good at school at least tried very hard. I will say science was probably my worst subject so I was pretty bad at it. particularly biology was like a pro. I just couldn't understand it and so I don't know much I'm pretty pretty stupid and very easily and very much like scientists. This thing where 'cause I did a double major in political science and one thing you learn and political science is like basically you can get a study to say anything you want it to write political science spills like one of the softest of the soft sciences. Yes well and it's just very. It's very easy to manipulate data like you. Can you can very easily with the changing of the wording of a question get a bunch of stuff you can make anything happen and so a and I always get frustrated when I see. People get caught up in like political stuff. I'm like Oh that's just a trick like they just did a study just to get a reaction that because they wanted this to say that but I think what can you think of specific studies. Yeah there can be studies about like like not even like on a politics on social level. Like you'll read stuff where it's like it'd be like a turns out Men Don't want a woman who is intelligence and I'm always like and it's it's the stories we re like no fucking way way. Is that no way no way. That's I don't think that's true and I certainly don't think guys would admit that and so then what you do is you. You read the study in the way the last two questions. They'll be like do you find it intimidating? If somebody is smarter than you and somebody will say yes and they'll be like. Would you say that being intimidated is like they'll ask the question where we're going to be like? Oh Yeah I guess it's intimidating and then they'll be like therefore and they'll draw conclusions. You're like oh the trick them. You tricking people. You were asking the question where people didn't realize they were answering. Is it intimidating with some scary someone smarter than you? Yes Is it a bit scary If if someone is intimidating yes. Do you want your girlfriend to scare you. Know for sure order of questions is everything you can get people in a certain mindset and then get to the question you want answered. Destroy all right. Well that was. That wasn't that push polling which cul rove's specialized in. Yes you can do it anywhere and so frustrated with people do with politics. I feel like I'm one of those people with actual science. Where like I believe everything I read. I don't fully know what's true and what's not about science and so I like you. I read studies where it's like even with what's going on right now. I've read studies where they were like. It's not a big deal and I was like no you see it. This study says that it's just like this and everybody's like so i. I'm pretty stupid. Try and say something like this. This currently going on it. Such a faucet moving and changing and incomplete data and the data is constantly coming in and changing the pictures and the models and everything. So it's incredibly is even easier than it is with most scientific topics to Cherry. Pick things to say what it is you want to say and to produce a or promote a viewpoint that you want to promote yes exactly and I am. I am somebody who will get tricked right when it comes to science. I'm smart enough where there are times where I'm reacting to things and then it turns out to be nothing. I'm like I'm stupid to be fair though that that in itself even knowing and accepting that is puts you in the upper percentiles of smartness smart enough to know that you're dumb. I think I mean if you could argue when people are like Oh Comics. You have to be smart comedy. I was like I think he's just very self aware. I think that's the thing we're really good at it. I'm very self aware. And I'm very aware of the fact that I'm easily manipulated and therefore have to be careful well. Well even even scientists. Scientists are experts in their fields but often but not necessarily other fields. And there's a story I'd like to start with and I know I know where we're switching around between doing episodes where we talk about the situation in the pandemic and everything and then episodes like this with comedians. Well we we keep away from this topic entirely so we have to well. I hope you'll forgive me. If I do this. One arenavirus adjacent story. That was sent to us by amongst others. Eric Boys but because this is a a scientist may be stepping too far into a different field from his health. I think you know the story about to say this. Stephanie went around the World. A couple of days ago astrophysicist gets magnet stuck up his nose while in bending corona virus device said magnet. Magnus this is this is this is a God version of the story. Dr Daniel Rate Is. His name is a photo of him looking Sullen in hospitals he. He's Australian as well. Hey are Australia. Mrs Congratulations on one of your country folk. Australian astrophysicist has been admitted to hospital getting four magnet stuck up his nose in an to invent a device that stops people touching their faces during the corona virus outbreak. Dr Daniel Brandon is a research fellow. Melvin University was building a necklace. That sounds an alarm on facial contact. When the mishap occurred Thursday night twenty-seven-year-old astrophysicist studies pulses and gravitational waves says he was trying to liven up the bottom of self-isolation with four powerful neodymium magnets. He took Australia. I have some electric equipment but really no experience or expertise and building circuits all things. I had a partner detects magnetic fields. I thought if I built a circuit that could detect the magnetic field and we will make this on our wrists than it could set off an alarm if you brought in too close to your face a bit of Boardman isolation maybe think of that however the academic realize the electronic pot he had the opposite would only compete the sucker. When there was no mayday present. I asked him. He invented a necklace. The pawsox I spent invented a Nicholas the buses continuously. Unless you move your place so he's already on the wrong footing already. Invented positively the most annoying thing that you could have during this spirit of self-isolation and I worry that in his head up the scrapping that idea. I was still a bit bored. Playing with a magnet is the same as clipping. Thanks to your heirs. Clinton them into my ill lopes. Then Clinton somebody nostrils and things went downhill pretty quickly when I flip the magnet to my nostril. I still don't quite get close both of his nostrils or pinching his. Septum or something no. I think it was his Septum. He plays inside his most roles until on the outside when here removed the magnets from the outside of the knows. That's that's the problem so it was. Oh he he did have basically two different magnet -Pez picture outside of his nostrils then. He removed the two magnet. Pez The to anyone's flipped around. Maybe made we're already facing the right way on slammed into each other pinched on Septum. Okay so then. He unfortunately says the research then attempted to use his remaining magnets to remove them but partner who works at a hospital. It was laughing at me. I tried to pull him out. But there's a rigid multiple. My nose. You get past after struggle for twenty minutes. I decided to Google the problem and found an article about an eleven year old boy who had the same problem the solution and that was more magnetic the percentage of set the pull from the website as I was pulling down was to try and remove the magnets they kicked on each other and I lost my grip and these two magnets ended up at my left nostril while the other one was in my right this is the magnet version of the woman who swallowed a fly. Yeah I ran out of Magnus before attending the hospital. He attempted to use players to pull them out but they became magnetized by the knows. Every time I brought applies to my nose my entire knows shift towards the plasma stick to them back nets and said it was a little bit from this point. This is the most perfect article heard heard this poor guy. I know he said my partner took me to the hospital. She works in because she wanted all of her colleagues to laugh at me. Don't just thought it was quite funny making like this is an injury to self-isolation of boredom at this point a team of two doctors applied an anesthetic spray and my newly removed with magnets from his nose. But how still WANNA know how I think? I think it was just brute force. I think is enough to overcome the pain and then they just yanked hits the three from the left nostril. The Lost One fell down my throat. That could have been a problem. He said if I swallowed operates it in but I was able to lean forward and cough it out SAM. Nothing to play with this anymore. Yeah those little ones. Those are dangerous those little things. Yeah Oh yeah. It's very understandable. When you hear this I is. This really breaks it down for you step by step. What happens sense in each step? Sort of very kindly. He's really goes through it. Yeah I mean one hundred percent. You're like I could see how all the sudden you would just be like. Oh no there's a problem and then you I mean you just don't want to admit this is happening. I can imagine you would do literally everything you can possibly think of to make this go away before having to alert people. I mean I can guarantee if I if I had done that I would. I try something with other Mike. I sure hope that I would have the sense to do something. Like like my plan I think would be place. The magnet inside a handkerchief so then stuck to the other magnet inside the nose. You'd still have the end of the handkerchief that you could pull on for grip so that that's very smart. Plus it looks like you have this. Awesome Yosemite Sam Mustache Does go ahead. I was GONNA say the biggest problem with reading this article. I have this broken brain where every step. I'm like wait. I want to try it. I think I could do it. Oh It's a horrible story to read during this period because I was consistently touching my nose entire story trying to figure out where it was like those in any when you said the rigid the bottom I was like what Ridge is. It has a feeling like I'm touching so much right now if you if you've played with those magnets as well. They are ridiculously strong. Like I could see how it would happen. They quite scarily powerful. There isn't a step in this story that I'm not one hundred percent understanding why he did what he did. And I would have made every decision and then it's like that horrible. If you go all right you know what I made a couple of bad decisions but let me do this one and this will fix this and then now I haven't seen son of a bitch okay. One more we're going to fix it now because now. Oh and then you just end up in a horrible place. I mean this is this is. This is a scientist. This is a man who's supposed to be taken seriously idle hands. Yeah this is. The problem with Islam happens when you try some cross disciplinary you. Try and step out. If he were to tomorrow. Discover the vaccine think about Harvey. It would be for us to believe him haunt him for life a d. Did you get stuck up? Your nose is in review. I remember my friend. My friend all of younger brother got some put some peas up his nose and they were. I remember that day. Elliott had up his nose and they were debating whether they have to take him to the doctor and then at the end I think they managed to get him to sneeze it out just put pepper up his nose. Do this old school style sneeze. I could stupid. One I did is a kid. I don't know if I've mentioned this on this show before I might have done for it. Ever did I mentioned on the show what I did with one of those Hopper Toys. What are the hooper to his toy that was like a robot hemisphere and you turn it inside out a u turn it inside out and upside down on the table and then as something. Pops in POPs up in the air. I think another story but I think it's been long enough that I wanted to get that scripts because also the other thing you can do with. It is it. Looks like a rubber Suction Cup It looks like Suction Cup. You can stick it to the back of your hand your skin and I I start one to the center of my full head but like really forstall of the air routes and to me the titus I've been so then. Try to put it away and I don't know whether it was the the vacuum that it made all the action of trying to pull it away but I the blood vessels it my forehead in a perfect circle could afford to Q. Yeah let me like. Yeah exactly that's exactly what it is a hickey. But in the shape of a ring in the middle of my forehead lost for lasted for about three or four school days. I tried to claim that I tripped up and hit my head on a door handle to that work at all like slow. There's no way anybody thought that you did it with the Suction Cup thing. Either I mean I. Could you possibly know how you did that? I think the I think that would be the. I guess because it looked exactly like the mock from a Suction Cup glass or like like if you got hit by one of those toy bow and Arrow sets. That has the yeah. That's what I would think that. Imagine if you were a kid who had just a little more confidence in you could double down and just come into school that day in start a new religion extent woke up this morning with the mark. Who's GonNa Follow? If you want to be cool you gotta do. This is your. Here's your minute enough. Good even say how to see it happen. Spontaneous chosen you were given a third. I when you woke up. You had this thing if you were a little more Joseph Smith. You could have convinced a lot of people. It's my stigmata exactly. I think there was a time when whatever as you are. When you discover the concept of hickeys whatever would give themselves hickeys on their arms not even to shell out but just because it's out of sheer boredom in the back of the classroom did not happen you guys. Do you suck on your arm. I don't think I did. I know now look I. I don't know if I ever gave myself a Heiki I will say that But I will say that This is embarrassing and potentially said for podcast but I will say that when I first started kissing girls. I thought he keys. Were like cool like a cool thing to give one and at a certain point you realize like to me. I'm like as an adult. I'm like Oh if I see Hickey on someone I'm like Oh you're kissing somebody wrong. Somebody doing it wrong. Somebody's kissing you the wrong way. That's not how you're supposed to do it. I would give then like today. I learned how to really kiss. I was like Oh yeah so. You're not supposed to do that. That's bad nobody likes them? They're not good. You SHOULDN'T BE I. Hickey is a sign that you're kissing somebody. Who's been at it? That's a very good point in all the ways that we are now so sexually open like online dating. Everyone has an acronym for all of the things that are into. There's not a single person who's like who's going to give you a hickey. Someone's going to give you a Hickey. No leaky fetishes says nothing Hickey. It's like first off. It's an immediate just like it's so embarrassing like Oh yeah. I'm I'm mark. Yeah you're you're the mark of just like someone's kissing me Bronx someone's kissing me. The Russell Ones Kissing wrong incorrectly. You'll have you're supposed to kiss. And you're not supposed to have a frigate mark on your neck. Yeah there. There is some good news some good science being done in Australia as well. We've been love stadium since we got science stories from Australia coming in but this one Mike Brown sent in this story about ancestor. All animals identified in Australian fossil's so a team led by UC riverside geologist. That's just up. The road from US has discovered the first ancestor on the family tree that contains most familiar animals today including humans the tiny the tiny worm like creature named Ikaria. Why are Utah is the oldest? Beila -Tarian all organism in the front and back to symmetrical sides and openings at either end connected by Gut. The paper is published today in proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences in Phys Dot. Org It's here at animal like bragging about animals traits. This includes both front and back with this. What else could a thing you know? One of those fronts owning I guess a distinctive from like the front and this is the back roads just like this has just carries on forever like a face to face just the front on the front and the back. What makes them different? I think there's just an Arrow pointing which direction it is right. I guess the food food gets absorbed from one end and goes out the other things. Yeah so I guess you call it. As even if he doesn't have distinctive facial features. All Right Sousa face and this is this is. This is pre fish way way way professional. This is the the earlier says the earliest multicellular organisms such as sponges. Algal mats had variable shapes collectively known as the EV Karen Biota. The group contains the oldest fossils complex. Multicellular organisms have most of these and not directly relate to animals around today including lily pad shaped creatures known as Deacon Sonia that lack basic features of most animals such as mouth or Gut. The development of bilateral symmetry was a critical step in the evolution of animal life giving organisms the ability to move purposefully and a common yet successful way to organize their body. We should all be smokey. Yeah right now. I don't think I've moved purposefully in the last month nor have I successfully organized my body in any way shape or actually. That's not true. I did a fan of organizing my body. I think we're all doing more organizing about eating normal. No clue what you're saying. No clue at that Madonna. Literally anything. Yeah it's like I think is it. It's a masturbation. Oh God it but a multitude of animals from worms insects to dinosaurs to humans or rule is around this same basic bilateral body plan evolutionary biologists studying the genetics of modern animals predicted the oldest ancestor of all bilateral would have been simple and small with rudimentary sensory preserving and identifying. The fossilized remains of such an animal was thought to be difficult. If not impossible fifteen years scientists agree. That fossilized Boras Fan of five hundred fifty five million year olds it'd Karen period deposits in milk. Pena South Australia were made by Bella. Teheran's but it was no sign of the creature in the made the boroughs even extensive circulations but Scott Evans is a doctoral graduate graduates at UC Riverside. Mary draw WHO's a professor of geology? Just Miniscule Oval Impressions knew some of the bars with funding from a NASA exobiology granted. Then that's something. Nasa did look to Miami things they use a three dimensional laser scanner that reveal the regular consistent shape of a cylindrical body whether it'd stink head and tail faintly grooved musculature the animal range between two to seven millimeters long and about one to two and a half millimeters wide the largest the size and shape of a grain of rice. This is just the right size to have made the boroughs we. The animals should have existed. During the instable says Evans. We always understood that difficult to recognize. Once we had the three D scans. We knew we made an important discovery. So yeah I guess this is like thought to be potentially the ancestor of all human life. So any anyone's fish oss everything I could see the similarity. Yeah this thing yeah I. I'm having such a hard time picturing that and what this means like when you said everything you just said I like the entire if you could have seen me my head was just like my hands and I was just trying to picture what all of that meant and also when they were like. This is like a huge discovery. And I'm like but we already knew it was something like this. All we did was just confirm it. We give even though they. They found the borough puffs I think that they So they're like I think this thing must have lived here but they had discovered it and using these these really high resolution high tech scanning lasers they managed to actually identify where the creature is what it looks like the fossil of its anyway. So it'd be a tiny speck in some sedimentary rocks The tell Scott I'm proud of them and and You know that I guess this helps us but roots right important to know where you came from. Certainly very important to know where you came from. I would say that I I like Scotts. Mind to be focused on something else now. I feel like there's more pressing scientific issues this world than this little guy but I'm glad he figured it out but I truly can't picture any part of this is so hard for me to understand. Flipside of Scott Chooses Change Direction and focus on a different field of science. He might end up with his septum stuck together with trail. Mag- magnetic argument. Tv to stay in your lane even during this time there is. There has been a clear argument. Precedent set on this podcast of. Stay in your lane and I and I do think that is you are correct but my God. There's there's another story linked to on this website that I just a sidebar. The stories that I quite like the look of. I don't know if you can sit. Andy as well on your site but the face of a mouse reveals its emotions. According to this study I do understandable story. I love this story. Yeah Right Researches at the Max Planck Institute of Neurobiology and I describe emotional facial expressions for mice similar to humans mouse facial expressions change when it tastes something sweet obita or whether it becomes anxious where this new possibility of measuring the emotions of mice nearby. Bugs can investigate the basic mechanisms of how motions degenerated in processed in the brain pleasure disgust. Fear the facial expressions that reflect. It's sort of like I. If you scare a mouse it's face. Get its eyes get big. That's always been a thing. I don't think I've ever scandal mouse close up enough to be able to tell did you. Did you have any friends with rats or mice growing up kid? I was that I had. I had pet mice but I think I just don't. I don't ever remember staring into that face and doing anything sufficiently scary. You don't remember because we were able to pet your your your mice note very well. No they did. They were shriek and run away but again I was. They were too quick. And S- clemmie okay but when they would shriek runaway their face would look streaky. I claim that this is a bullshit find is we've always known this scientists trying to stretch something we've all. Yeah mice make. I KNEW MICE. Make some facial emotions. Okay so have you ever had you ever have you ever Like the top of the mouse's head like close. It's is kind of and like enjoyment so are we projecting that enjoy onto it though. Do we know for certain that's enjoyment. We did it so his his. I think this story has done firstly. It does saying here. At the some scientists we believe we can recognize feelings in the facial expressions of pats but in other animals they can appear expressionless to us according to this article not to you. Danny disagrees. But here. Here's what I here's what I will say. This article does say and I don't think you can necessarily do this. If you were to look at a video out of context with no sound of the mouse using machine vision the researchers were able to reliably link five emotional states to the facial expressions of mice. Those states off pleasure discuss nausea pain and fear which would clearly distinguishable and make it even measure the relative strengths of these emotions. So I don't think I don't think I could distinguish between a mustache Mouse that is expressing Hain affair or discussed. I don't think I'd go like disgusted. Mouse and that is a fitful mouse. Have do they have in the article photos of what these different mouth mouse faces? They have drawings which to be honest in this picture. The juries do look remarkably similar to each drawings. I'll send you. I want to see him. I want to look at them right now. I I call bullshit on this study I let it be clear. I know truly nothing and I'm an idiot but I think let's see. Let's do you believe that link sent in the yeah so that we're to the drawings of the whiskers moving based on emotion clenching the whiskers go back when you're feeling pleasure and they go forward with their feeling pay as well so I mean the the. This looks a lot about the ears also. Yeah yeah the years are moving a great deal but we all knew that we always knew that ears means alertness. Probably fear right. Yeah we've always on this. Yeah look at that and look. Oh Oh oh look at this last this last one yet with the joy and it's got the little th- Oh and shows the arrows shows where things go you see. Choi on here is joy if you go to the third of the if you click underneath it's the third one and it's got arrows. Aware things are going. Oh is it but convulsing that's interesting so it says here. In this article the main benefit of discovery of mouse facial expressions is that it is now possible to identify mechanisms giving rise to emotions. This is previously a problem without the reliable measurements of emotions. It's been difficult to study that origins in the brain we. Humans says Dole Snack. Who's the study's lead author? We humans made notice a simple facial change in the mice but we can only recognize the emotion behind it with a great deal of experience and can hardly evidence of innocence determine its intensity with our ultimatum face recognition system we can now measure the intensity nature of emotion on a time scale of milliseconds. Compare it to the neuronal activity and relevant brain areas. One such brain area is the insular cortex which is associated with emotional behavior and the perception of emotions in animals and humans. So so I guess they can. They can use this to in various ways simultaneously study which neurons firing in the brain at the same time. As you're looking at a mouse's face and detecting whether it is tasting something unpleasant or pleasant and scared or not scared so if I can get one of these machines does it mean. I can in an appreciable way improve my relationship with my mouth. Yeah I think so. I think you can really make some breakthroughs. It's good I feel like he's been distant. Tell you this. I don't think you need this stupid machine. I think you could tell your mouth. Fields of basic instinct basic. Yeah the Nice always made it. I mean I don't know that when you had mice couldn't you tell when the mice mouse like sometimes to be affectionate sometimes whether it was like you could tell? I don't think I don't think I was a good mouse owner. I'm going to be honest with you. Danny I don't think I did enough petting all playing with this mouse to be able to. I remember my playing identify a range of emotions. Well my friend Lily in had a pet rat or mouse. I'm trying to remember witch for forever and that but that thing was like trained very they were they were buddies and then my friend is a Kid. Chinchilla and I think a bunch had mice. I felt like they had like you know personalities. You did have pets yourself. Danny or did you have. We had we had a little. Noah's Ark going. We always have to of everything so we had like two dogs. Two cats two birds We had a tortoise. Lived for like forever We Tortoise what else we just roll around the back yard or was it. An indoor tortoise or hunted work So it was my dad. I mean he's back in the day before nine eleven. He was in up in Virginia. He he went to California for something somebody who was like. Oh do you want this baby tortoise and so he literally said like he slipped it in his pocket took it on a plane and brought it back to us and then this tortoise grew to be like massive huge tortoise. Go through like a head of lettuce a day. Maybe two huge tortoise and so during the winter it hibernates so during the winter we would bring it inside and it would live in. It's a little thing and like Kinda come out but for the most part just like sleeping. It's little area but then during the Spring and summer my dad built like a little pen for it and it would it would roam around and it's a little pen outside curious. The person who gave this to your dad was he an old Asian gentleman and a Curio Shop. Did it come with any stipulations? About how be honest? It's one of these stories. Where like you know. It's a kid you dad like shows up. And he's like he's like. I snuck this tortoise on a plane. Toya's you're like all right and the you get the more you're like what happened. What what what do bats poker game but we loved? The Tortoise Tortoise was great and it was very sweet and you could pet it it would let you It would let you like new. It would let you pet under its Chin like stick its head out. They don't ever bite but they're not snapping anyway that they don't get agitated or rating up. I I mean it'll do. It's little tortoise. Hiding thing and it bites eats lettuce and we eat lettuce really snaps down but it was very sweet towards asked me. We were its owner. Siedle loved us. Our neighbors our next door neighbors. When I was a kid had a pet tortoise that would escape with alarming regularity. Well I didn't WanNA is so famously. Slow moving the number of times we get a ring on the doorbell and go like is he in the garden. Izzy annual garden. Now well I I'll tell you. I didn't want mentioned as part of the story but Maggie. The Tortoise Ran Away Maggie. We never found her. She got out of the penguins. Could we could have. We searched the. We'd like acres woods behind my house and we like search the woods. We couldn't find her. She's out and we made. This is live for a long time. Maggie could still the out that very happily roaming the woods of Virginia. She for sure. Isn't she know? Survival instincts. Hibernation works in the wild. Gosh I think she's probably very very dead. We were really hoping I think we were gonNA donate her to zoo at some point because she was getting so big we were like we can't take care of this thing really if you buy something that has a longer life span than you. You're you're just burdening your descendants at a certain point you know side. Have you seen tiger king at this point by the way we I? I'm only halfway through it right now. I've watched I've watched all of it. I watching on Netflix Party. Which if you haven't tried that yet as a reasonably decent plugging browser plug in that. Lets you coordinate? Watching things on Netflix with friends So I'm currently watching it with amongst others friends of the show ceremony nick. Doody Hey Andy. Even learning anything doing any kind of watching informative materials that you might have access to three special offers. 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Now one of which was ruined by Zoom bombing trolls which is a thing that we now have to be aware of. We would happen. I go. I've done a bunch online gigs. And they've all been pretty rough but what it was. It was really fun until it was one. That was organized by Kate. Willett heard about this we so what actually happened so I was the comic who was ruining podcast by making you talk about this. Is this not what I'm interested also? I haven't heard this. I was the one on stage. If you can cool it on stage I was the first person up the case opening set. It was really nice because she has a nice following of good people. Incredibly sweet incredibly sweet following right so it was. It was a lovely like zoom thing but because we don't know what to do and how to avoid these things now we have better ideas on how to lock stuff down. Someone came on towards the end my set. I was nine minutes into it. Ten minutes and then started like shouting stuff out and making a noise and then to cope with screen sharing because it had been disabled for non admins and started scrolling racial slurs on the screens. Okay had done done. I just shut the whole thing. Down the yeah. I think that might me? I might have the distinction of being the first zoom bombed comedian. If you haven't heard about this by the way this is a thing that's been happening to a bunch of different events it's been Various online concerts meetings university lectures and classes some. Aa meetings have been attacked by trolls. Which is typically shits because sometimes people who link so the problem is zoom is quite insecure and also If if you're organizing the GIG. Like Kate was which was sort of an open gigs that anyone could drop in and also you. She didn't have the other participants muted because she wants. She wanted to hear laughter. As did I as the call appreciate the fact that you could just performing to an alter the three other comex so she sort of had too many missions open again like no full of running. This is really new and uncharted territory. And everything I've runs to do this stuff you could do to avoid it. You could possibly often. You have to get a ticket and then you've got the you've got the room code whereas this was more open. She has posted like hey. I'm doing a Gig at eight. Pm Log onto this. Here's the address. Wow and some teenage fortune. Dickhead decided to get on it. It it is open for. I mean I've done a bunch of the zoom gigs. And they're tough man. They are what I was actually until this thing happened. I was genuine enjoying this and also partly because I gone two weeks without doing a Gig of any sort and it turns out addict. We're all losing our fucking minds over this like it was like every comic really frustrated and sort of crabby and I was like why am I like I know where he stuck in Semi Corinthian? And we're locked in and everything and that's making a bit frustrated but I'm much crappy. You're in more annoyed than I would be. What's going on in there? I'll why haven't done comedy in two weeks. I never realized how much emotional crutch it is for me. Yeah but it's like that's how I express myself and now I can't it's it's an emotional crutch and it's it's you're addicted to the adrenaline and the spike. And you know the Whatever sort of dopamine 's endorphins or whatever you get from performing like that's yeah and it's and it's all gone I mean. Yeah so I've been doing a lot of zoom shows and stuff and I I get that rush. The thing about zoom is because it. I like the Mike. Von Thing works. You can hear laughs but I've changed my tone. I think it's not worth it. There's just too much noise. You have to be careful about things. Like I'm making sure. People know to mutant microphones if nobody knows. I mean. The problem is impossible. It's just impossible to monitor so light is very hot. I'm GonNa keep doing them and keep trying them and keep us. We have nothing else to do. Yeah keep an eye on my twitter. Because I'm I'm tweeting out when I'm doing the shows and re tweeting them and that kind of thing so if you're not doing them in different time zones. I'm doing a GIG for a comedy club based in Manchester who'd excess Milwaukee Club that I haven't played in years because I'm living in America but it's I love those guys and I'm doing this show on Tuesday so it'll be like lunchtime for me. Which is that's kind of Nice that I get to do a Gig in the UK. I did a very good morning. Was that sorry. I did a show for Zurich. I believe is where they're based. Well I mean I mean that's something you know. You couldn't normally easily do a Gig in Europe there now and it was fun you know. It's it's tough because on one hand you're like I'm doing something and it feels exciting but then you also like but this is a bad version of what I mean. This this debate ably I'm just ranting at a camera to not the same as like playing Lago. Yeah it's it's a drop but we're trying to quote high school teacher buying. Who had these great sort of Yogi Berra? `ISMs it's a kiss to wet toilet paper. He would always say yes. But what's the actual experience when you're doing it? You're not getting laughs as immediate feedback. So you're just seeing faces smiling. Or how does it even approach there being feedback loop like there is in stand up so there's basically two ways to do it with zoom right now? There's one which is you have. Everybody's Mike's on your like only you know. Just laugh. That's it don't talk just laugh. And so the upside of that. Is You get the laughs? The downside is people are making noise and feedback and they have the sound on the computer up. So you hear yourself and it's just like right. Yeah you've got to tell people that have headphones brutal. There's a lot lot stephanie. Tricky and also I don't think zoom I could be wrong about this but I don't think zoom currently has the ability to have the equivalent of a microphone where it like in a comedy show the audience audible in a real company show. The audience is audible and so the comedian but the comedian is like five times lower than any individual audience member because you'll speak into a microphone. Pa system that's kind of what you want. Gig You would. Ideally have the audience. Mike's on muted every audience member dropped down to twenty percent of your volume instead when they laugh. Yeah in someone they laugh it pulls like literally away from it. Ed like treats it like. Oh they're talking now right. 'cause in Zoom you can. They're always to make the performing comedian. Be The main pins video. They're like they're all things you can do. But I think it's still imperfect Kazoo wasn't designed to this so the other way to do it. Yeah and so the other way to do it. Is You mute. Everyone you go just laughing. WanNa laugh and then you're just ranting and you just Kinda and that's been what I've been enjoying the most because it kind of stand up without you're just like okay. I'm GONNA now talk like I've always been rants that's always have done stand up anyways. I rant on like I. I'm just going to rant and like I'm kinds also what we're doing right now. Does three of US speaking to the point by thousands of audience members but exactly so zero idea of the feedback. They like they might currently. Everyone might be like get back to the stories. We've heard about you trying to zoom getting now for ten minutes. They might want to know more about is. I'm going nowhere until emails. Come through three days later. We'll I'll tell you what I do a lot. Which is when I I did the thing. I did in Zurich. Today was the first time I was like. Oh I think I might have online. Stand up down and the biggest thing I'm doing is I monitor. I watched the chats. So I'm like I'm like you're laughing but I WANNA see you're chatting so it's like if they have something to say say it or if they like something like it and then like all respond to that almost like a back and forth and that I found very spotting that's better yeah the one for excess Bellotti. I believe that we use we use Zuma some private or some other chat thing to actually connect to to get me but then the actual gig streamed on twitch so people watching excess Malaki gig Entente Zuma tool they're using twitch and then you don't hit a laughter but you will see comments down the side so I recommend keeping the twits on the side and watching their comments because then it keeps. It keeps them engaged. It feels like they're a part of the show a little bit. Which is something. That's that's where I'm at on online stand up Gandhi here by the way that I found this story I found in New Scientist that connected a bit to the mouse story. Except this is people brains and recognizing things yeah hunt for George. Clooney's face explains how stress affects decisions. This You mean George Clooney's Front we're talking about. Yeah I didn't check is yesterday was April the first I should have double check to make sure every one of these stories. We're covering fucking dumb. Fuck April I. Don't think any of the stories that have the magnet knows. One story was payment a few days before. That's definitely not a risk but there is a mouse facial expressions. That's not me fooling four. That's another April second story. The A yeah. So stress can lead to poor decision. Making and people hunting George face could help us understand why thackery brown at Stanford and his colleagues thirty eight people with an average Asia. Twenty-three in other was off the budget. Grad students terrible study already go on the to navigate looping pots around twelve different virtual towns in a simulated environment. Each town had just a few streets took about a minute to navigate. The research has also placed the face of a celebrity George Clooney for example at two points along the route the team in all the participants to navigate the simulation again while lying inside a functional magnetic resonance imaging machine and FM. We talked about those a while ago in the episode with oriented and how they work This time participants began in unfamiliar location individual town and had to navigate the streets to find the celebrities face as fast as possible. So you had to make any refined celebrity in the maze. In order to test the effects of stress twenty of the participants also war device on their ankle that gave them mild electric at random intervals. The team measured the level of Cortisol. Which is a stress hormone? In all thirty eight people four navigating the town they were each given a few seconds the plan their routes each town was designed so that a previously unused shortcut was the most effective way to reach. The celebrity. Towns are small enough. That people should be up to work this out but those wearing the ankle device took the shortcut less often not one percent of the time. But it's forty seven percent of the time for those without it. They will say more stress with elevated cortisol levels on standard because they are being electric-shock percents slow Theresa Celebrity and they knew that the shocks coming randomly. They didn't think shocks. Were penalized them for bad choices or anything. I don't know exactly. I think I'm so random so openly they knew it was this. This sounds more like prisoner's dilemma. To me than it does to stress because I think a lot of it would be like you wouldn't take the shortcut because you'd be like I just WanNa make sure I get there and I don't want to get stuck because then when it gets shocked one more time you spend. This is why I was good at it. I was so good tearing down studies. This is what I do. Well I noticed part is study. The the thing the thing you're not factoring in is we with prisoner's dilemma. It's basically like people will take a medium penalty than take the risk of getting the best possible solution. You guys know as a recap. The prisoner's dilemma. Is this should of thought experiment where you are? You're in prison and another person is also in prison. And then you're presented with a choice between asking for a shorter sentence but the deal is if you both ask for the shortest sentence you both a worst saying sentence but if one of you also the shortest sentence and the other one doesn't then you've got a shorter sentence And then if you both don't take it you get a medium amount of Punishments were the so the idea. Is You basically win if you you if you if you want if you choose it but the other person's doesn't but you lose really badly if you both? Jews it well no. I DON'T UNDERSTAND PRISONER'S DILEMMA. Feel for you crack me is basically. It's do you rat out your partner or do you not out your partner to confess you either you either. You either can choose not to read out your partner. And then as long as he doesn't you out you both get away with it. Yes sorry I should have Made it clear as infesting compressing. Ratting out is the easiest way to go and so even though if you both just don't read each other out you both get away. Most people were at the personnel. 'cause they'll be like. I'd rather just no. I'm going to take some kind of a sentence than I don't read him out. He rats me out and then I go to jail for a really long time. Even though if you both didn't rat each other out you stay silent then you both do get some punishment but you don't. Yeah so the idea is you would get say one year if you if you both stay silent if you choose to if you choose to say silent and then the other guy rats you out. He Goes Free. And you gotTa really badminton's rights but if you both at each other out. I if you both read each other out you get like two years. Whatever and so everybody goes two years is the choice so this strikes me as I'm GONNA GET SHOCKED RATE. Probably a lot so rather than me take what looks like potentially a shortcut but also potentially going to make me be like what if. I'm wrong then I'm stuck then. We in shock three or four times. Just take out that I know works. I'll get to shocks but at least I'm not GonNa get four. I would say the argument against that and I get what you're saying but it does. It does say a mild electric shock which does suggest to me that this is. This is discomfort but putting but nuts. Yeah even though this experiment did happen at Stanford where they have a certain reputation for experiments. That might be unethical but it must have had a little though because people's stress levels. Were up right. You know but that'd be the same as the equivalent would be. Maybe having a rubber band on your angle goal that they're flicking except I wouldn't like that you would like it but you wouldn't be like. Oh Shit I need to find. Id to make this stop as quickly as possible. Source like this is with So they they also they used a machine learning algorithm to decode the data of each participant's training to identify when a person was looking at a particular phase. Allama in the visual town then used the to try to look out while the participants was thinking about. When planning the route known stress participants were more likely to imagine all of the landmarks present on on the routes that they went on to take while stress participants appeared to focus on just the llamas closest to this starting point this links to how stress affects us in the real world says Brown when something is really stressing out we stopped making plans and just worry about the thing in front of us. He says looking at the neural mechanisms of stress on memory may contribute to how we passed a stressful events or how we deal with conditions. Ptsd says Neal Budgets at University College. London so yeah. I guess it's like you develop more tunnel vision in this more stressful situation. You you dial and you're like okay. I'm going to stick with what I know. Because I don't have the mental capacity to deal with the stress and also try to innovate and try and come up with anything cleverer. Yeah exactly that would be my argument against the what this this. I mean what its concluding as you could argue obvious you could argue. The analysis of stress makes you not do things as well is like sure. I don't think they're wrong. I think that that is correct but I would throw in there when it comes to hunting for George Clooney's face you're getting shocked on the leg in the middle of it. I think that is going to affect the way you do. It and I don't necessarily think it's because you're afraid of shortcuts. It might also affect how you in future perceived George Clooney wincing through the Oscars telecast here for George Clooney. Now has a bunch of people who see his face and are like. It's probably going to be really good filled. I just I just love you. Ever see his face. And you're like wait. What what's the nearest landmark guys? Don't you guys don't get that feeling you instantly such alleyways? Apparently I was wrong is supposed to be going through the alleyways. Don't think that what you guys are missing with. This experiment is to meet really seems like a Manchurian candidate. Play on the way to train people to assassinate George Clooney. Whatever doesn't matter if you've never seen these streets before you will find clooney no matter what's happening around you. The second year Ishaq that ankle. They get activated sleeper cells of us. It's all over the world. Though one last they WANNA story on the subject of murdering and killing things from Palestine. Beck sent him. Unless you have story you'd like to Andy Ronan O'Gara sort this is Neanderthals turns out had a taste for sharks and dolphins. They were eating fish. Mussels and seals at a site in present day. Portugal according to new study research as to mounting evidence that I've Lucien relatives may have relied on the seafood just as much as ancient modern humans for decades the ability to gather food from the sea and rivers was seen as something unique to US species. Scientists found evidence intensive reliance on seafood of an ad in the NFL site in southern Portugal. That's neanderthals living between one hundred. Six thousand eight hundred six thousand years ago at the Cave of figura brother nearest sectoral. They were eating mussels. Crabs fish including sharks eels and seabream and also seabirds dolphins and seals. The research team led by Gallo Hilo from the university. Barcelona found the marine food. Made up about fifty percents of the Diet of the Figura Robin the NFL's the other half came from terrestrial animals like goats. Horses and ancient world. Capital owners are aware in the world and told us they ate tortoises as well. So Oh no we where the world were these neanderthals up. What is now present day? Portugal got it. Thank you So some of the earliest known evidence for the x Ray Exploitation of marine resources by modern humans SAPIENS. They wrapped around one hundred sixty thousand years ago in southern Africa viewer. Such as previously proposed a theory that the brain boosting fatty acids in seafood contributed to enhance cognitive development in early modern humans. Right the this the theory goes could help. Account for a period of mocked invention creativity start and amongst modern human populations in Africa. Around two hundred thousand years ago it may also have assisted modern humans to out compete other human groups like the bills and the Denisovans but the researchers found that in the NFL inhabitants of this area figure Bravo relied on the sea on a scale comparable to modern human groups. Living at a similar time in southern Africa commenting on the finding that mackey. Pope DOCTOR MATTI POPE FINISHED. You Talk Eulogy at. Ucla says this team plan to identify mittens shorthanded. Humanly Cray destructors piles heaps mounds from the entirely of Shell. This is important as they suggest a systematic and Organiz behavior from collection processing discount dump. The pope was not in the study and he added in later periods. Of course the world's shell hunt together. It seemed to invest in these structures and monumental ways even burials with to describe these accumulations. Mittens is a Golden Lotus. Step certainly made a strong case that these are comparable accumulations in Middle Stone Age Africa. So there's like these piles of shells. Yeah look look intentional. Looked like they have hunted this his marine life. And then gone. I'M GONNA make I'M GONNA make patents with the remnants had enough. The interesting thing is that they had the seafood diet or that they were into the aesthetics of of shells. They're they're like hookah shell. Necklace was Into three eleven before everybody else was leaks tips. Yeah Yeah I mean Moana. They had served. That's true yeah. I wonder who the first person I human. That's documentary right. Yeah documentary. They just got a lot of drawings on at least the narrative. That's how that's what I noticed. That's how I got. It took from that movie but I guess it all make sense if you were to ask me before the St think like old man eight Dolphins in Wales and sharks. I would've said yes but I'm glad to know that's confirmed fit. Fishing is quite I was about to say fishing's are relatively sophisticated thing but then I remembered that also says do it. I'd love you know. Yeah I mean I is. This is a common reference for me when I talk about anything in the world. But do you guys watch survivor. I don't really survivors. The greatest one of the best shows on TV came recommended enough. And it's a great Do the thing that makes survivor. So incredible that such a great study of like Mitch Strategy and humans like how we survive and one thing that you see a lot on survivor is fishing is way easier than catching an animal. Oh interesting so much easier to catch. An animal involves one a lot of danger. Like almost all animals bite and can charge you and to you have to like catch it you have to slaughter you just have a beer in the water like just showed spear you can spearfish. I guess I've never tried it so I assumed it's harder than from what I watch survivor. Fishing appears way easier than key. Now they probably also tell the as I say this. I'm like their probably telling the contestants not to slaughter animals But they do slaughter chickens on the show. You do see that they'll be given chickens. And then they break their next. I guess I haven't watched it enough to even know. I don't spend twenty years that shows go. But like how does it even approach any level of like how how are the stakes real when obviously no one's GonNa let anybody? But they get pretty badly hurt the stakes are pretty high suppo- part of it is Jeff probst and whoever doesn't with him I is but they did they run because it's more of a competition anything else so as a result because it's a it's a sport to meet survivors a sport of its own And I think it should be treated as such. I've always felt I have. Yes I really do. I it's so much strategy. There's so much strategy. There's so much game play like one hundred percent and so with that comes this. Like sense of there has to be rules and the rules are followed so in survivor. Basically if a doctor Has To help you in any way. Like remove you from the island to do anything to your out of the game so as a result. Nobody wants a doctor near them a so. They're pretty. They're pretty out there supposedly people who do it. I mean they come back and they're fucks up your body pretty bad. It looks these guys. Do not come back looking great. Well they come back having lost fifty pounds or something but not in a healthy way in Horley unhealthy way. They're super yeah starved. They're dehydrated And I mean oh I mean people multiple seasons. I've been like Tort Taylor. Cl's I mean these guys get hurt pretty bad. Okay I gotTA START. Watching a show twenty years NFL three episodes. But let me tell you. Watch a full season of survivor. You'll have the time of your life time right now. So Yeah Dude. I'm best show on. Tv Great Science. Like I did. You guys don't have mostly mostly because I do a podcast about sports and I find half my listeners wrecks people who aren't super because I talk about it in a very like easy to talk about way you find that people who listen to this are super science or do you feel like it's people who are like me who don't really know science burke curious we have I. It's a complete lend and we have listeners. Who found us through the comedy world either from knowing one of us through comedy or one of our guests and that's how they found the show and then we have listeners who found us from the science. Well we have listened to well full like professors and researchers in in that field and then we have listeners. Who just wants to comedy Casper wanted to be about something? That isn't just to you guys chatting sure by the way if you want. We could tie altogether neatly with thing. That's actually in the news and Rice sports and if we do you want to do that we do that as a little bonus. Is there a bonus story? I was just going to be. I'm just going to tell the story about Brooks. Oh Oh we should definitely do that. I follow this ridiculousness before we do. Dining wh what is your podcast. So you couldn't make sure the listeners can jump across to you as well. I would love that guys. Thank you so much I do. Podcast called everything but the scores It's about all the stories around sports Normally so before pre corona I would take the stories from the sports world that week that you don't have to be on the field. It's more about like the people and the interesting things that happened. That would talk about those Since sports have stopped. What I've been doing is every couple days. I put out an episode and I tell a story from the sports world Store you might not. Yeah it's really fun like did May I did Jackie tone this week and we talked about may young who? I don't know if you guys ever heard of by so Jackie. Tones on glow and so may young story Female wrestler who started wrestling in nineteen thirty nine. She's been she's one of the first. Female wrestlers had a very long female wrestling career. Do know who she is. I remember seeing a youtube video. Did a cameo on like a WWe event. Yes within the last ten years result also ideas so then what happen is exactly so she has until she's like forty five fifty retires. Obviously and then it seventy seven years old they her and The fabulous moolah whose other female wrestler. They do this bit where they're like. We're going to honor you guys at seventy seven. This guy who's a jerk is going to beat you up and these women who are real wrestlers were like well then have him do it like we can take a bump and so may young gets ABS- Fabio. It takes Qatar to the head fabulous. Moolah gets absolutely deck and the crowd. Obviously reacts in horror a seventy seven year old woman has got the is the ultimate. He'll move like there's nothing you could do worse as heal them Ronnie and so ends the W is like do you want to have. Do you want to do this so for two? And A HALF YEARS. She was a major plot point. Wwe She went through multiple tables seventy seven years old. Did it perfectly? She's a trained wrestler. And it's just like an unbelievable story so I tell a story like that and I tell the things and I love doing it. And it's so much fun and you'll get super into it linked to a video of her wrestling fabulous. Moolah if you look at the the chat there this perceived hang on. Let me send you something better. Okay you WANNA SEE SIGNS. You want to see how fucking insane may young as and Anybody who but but yeah so. That's what I want to talk about. I do this sort of stuff and I I get. That's what I do. I get real excited and then So we're talking about and so during this period of in doing that and the other thing I always tell people like you don't have to watch sports to To get my podcast. I always say like You don't have to do math to get breaking bad. You don't have to like have been super sports like to appreciate a story right. If that's everything about the scores and feel free to watch that clip I just sent you as Oh my God that pile driver or whatever that is. Wow Wow that's amazing so we'll we'll put that's the sort of stuff we talk about so it's a fun time. Please come over please. Listen yes she liked. I mean that that's and I'm I'm several decades younger than her. She's she lived until like ninety one and was like I she. The thing is if you watch that she falls perfectly like she knows how to take a bump. She's just been killed. I can't believe it was off their Andrew's backstory. On that on that thing you're watching. She had the week before done one also through a table and they were she was like I. WanNa do it again. Because she didn't get hurt she was like. Let me do one more times. That was the second week in a row. She talked to a table talking about ridiculous sporting feats. Let's let's talk about a friend. And Original Co host of this show Brooks Wayland sir linked to the story. I mean followed life so friends of Friends of the show diktat or nick. Both of them have been on the show discussing their podcast. Get RICH NICK. It which they attempt to make money. And how is that? I don't know how exactly this bet came about well. Gee there's a cheeky article about it. Which I just linked to and So I guess on a few days ago Brooks had a bet five dollars with nick that he could finish. That's dollars less than four hours thirty three minutes. Which was I think? Google ad found that it was the average race. Time for maybe entrance in the New York marathon or just average time in general with by the way we should with zero training. That's the way it would never. Train for. Marathons said with zero training. I can run a marathon in under full minutes. Four hours thirty So yeah so. The viewer is a so you ran a marathon. How did it come up and Brooks said the longest I've ever continuously run with ten miles. Just lost my job at SNL. It was so stressed out. He just ran to relieve stress. Now he runs three miles occasionally maybe nine miles a week but they were drunk and he said I'll run a marathon. We've five four dollars and we weren't sure if we're going to do it or it was just drunk talk but then he thought this is the one thing I can do right now. I'm not touching anybody outside this track it on my phone so yeah. He looked up the average time for someone to train for eight weeks to make it legitimate bet which was about four and a half hours. He said since he's thirty three he'll make four thirty three. And that's also fast oprah could run it so he wanted to be Oprah which ironically is only goal. I ran a marathon once in two thousand seven and all I wanted to do is make. Sure I wasn't slow with an Oprah. I don't know how because everyone's I didn't know you did a marathon trained for it. I DIDN'T DO IT DRUNK. Notre and what's going on? Leno. I didn't enter marathon. He ran a marathon is worth of distance. Mostly around Los Villas. In Luke's I mean it's insane so he let's say. He says he just trained to the marathon by doing whatever. The last two days of Maryland program is said to rest on both days. So he's got that. The goal stood not drink Friday. Then go jogging. But then I was at a girlfriend and our favorite wine store Lou doing takeout wide. I was like let's get some bottles of Hydra later. Ended up taking like one thirty or two Friday night. We dug it. I'm an idiot One thing I will say my girlfriend was pretty adamant that. It's really irresponsible. If you have to go to hospital do this thing and I said. One hundred percent agreed. Feel any way shape or form like I'm going to tear out stop. So he ran had no path he just said he's going to jog his twenty six point two miles and he did that. Admitted Enforce Sixteen which is pretty damn nine forty seven pays for twenty six miles which is very not bad and he said he wasn't even like you said it hurt his joints anything but it hurt his hips and knees in the last six miles. He was like this sucks that I got to the point where I could have walked the last six thousand five hundred dollars. But I gotTa beat Oprah so I did a little bit that is I can't get over it. It's crazy it's crazy and then people were tracking it online. Because I guess this red tracker was a thing you could look at this. World has no sports. There was twitter following placing debts. And whether he was gonNA make it or not I. I was following it intensely because I I couldn't believe it was possible. Yeah Yeah I mean you'd think like you do get to some injuries. You can't even walk through. You know if you go to your so he actually. I'm looking at twitter as well. He also accidentally got an elevation gain of over a mile because he wasn't picking small. Mr Right that's GonNa make it a lot worse. Realize how bad heartbreak hill in the Boston. Marathon which is the famous uphill. I think is only like one hundred two hundred foot elevation gain. I slept at Brooks gained a mile over the course of his mouth. He did tweet the next day. Pretty sure someone's knock into my house while I was sleeping last night and wealth. My legs with an aluminum bat should be awful. He must be in so much pain. I can't but also with that said I cannot fathom. Did it like it is of my understanding of training for marathon? Is it so hard and so difficult? And he did it with no drain though but part of the reason to trading so that the next thing you don't go through what he went through which is probably so bad that it's not worth doing and also he's an athlete. He's four wrestler like he's obviously in better shape than the average person in the world sled. Everybody who runs a marathon is in good shape right. That's true he beat Oprah with no training. Yeah I it's it's crazy. I'm incredibly impressed by the commitment to the bit if nothing else I don't know what is the main motivation was if it was committed to bit because if it's not I love it or whatever it is I love it. It's it's it's amazing. Yeah five hundred bucks because he no money's tight now. There's no gigs right now. So sure law where we. What's your number to run a marathon tomorrow? Danny your dollar about how well one. I'd have to somehow knocked. My my girlfriend would have to be asleep because she would not allow it but assuming assuming that we got her on board. I think I'd have to do a thousand I You'd have to really take you. You only two knees and with no training. You're GonNa really hurt your knees. I think the couple thousand a couple maybe five thousand I could do. I would do it I. I don't know if I could do that with that said I would. I don't either ten thousand I could not guarantee I would make it. Question was what time I would be. My question would be. Would I be able to even physically walked twenty six miles before it got dark right exactly. Yeah I do where I would lose the money but even if it's just like I'll pay you if you do it. I would still way more than five hundred bucks crazy like I went for a one mile. Walk yesterday and my legs were a bit tired today. Like Oh really felt it. What are you guys doing this states saying in that regard? I know we wrap it up but This is where I was running. I was running every morning. But that's been pulled because we don't want to go outside. L- that for that amount of time in the next couple of weeks Just because apparently hangs here We're learning new things every day So I was running. That's been taken from me But I've been I've been working out a lot. I've been lifting every day and I've been doing yoga. I mean we've not failed to do so. That's sort of been my my thing. Yeah that's I sort of feel like we have to. You have to have something. Come out of this being better at you know or else. It's a sheriff. I don't know I hear you so I I've been doing that but with that said But yeah we stopped running because it's It's just too risky. And you know this is just a repair depot. Every day. We get new information and we don't know what to yeah. Everyone should stay home for the time being. And why not keep your Zoom Yoga classes eating them Paul sweat it off to avoid the racists. Shore Yoga cost actors. Now I'll tell you in your body dot com a wonder and I am no way endorsed by this company. This is coming from the heartbeat. Dot Com has a lot of phenomenal stuff. And I really rent some classes. They're going to say x beach body. Okay yeah they got they got beat they got PX insanity and they've got all that stuff and I. It's just very doable. Okay Cool Danny. Apart from everything but the schools where can our listeners? Find you and find things you've done. Social media is a great place At Danny Jealous on instagram and twitter. I always say this. Our industry is broken. You cannot imagine how much it helps a comic to follow them on social media really. It seems like something small when you're like You know when you're you're out of the industry you're like you're like oh I've fallen out but it's like oh it means everything to us is literally how they judge are worth at times and so if you follow me. That's very nice and helpful. Crazy ex girlfriend on. Netflix is a wonderful show Movie thanks I was also in a in a I. Did a movie called blowing up right now. That came out Like a month or two ago but it is about a couple dealing with the end of the world and trapped in a house together. and timely. All the worst. It's literally the most timely thing ever So I'd also recommend that I think I teams just made it ninety nine cents to rent so And if you want to see a lot of Danny acting and a lot of DNA overacting. Might I commend blowing up right now. and that's it and then you know everybody just stays just stay safe and then finding someone zoom if you wanna see something a little bit more prepared as well. I really enjoyed settled and Kobe. So there's Danny doing stand up with a real audience in the same room as real time. His words it was crazy. Remember those days seems like a lifetime ago. Sit together and be within breathing. Range of each other didn't seem insane and feel so far away but I think in a couple of weeks we'll be in in a a month will be such a better place but these next couple of weeks as long as people are doing right. Yeah as as a ways you can find us at probably DOT COM APP. Probably Science individually at and t wouldn't that might cushion any questions comments clarification stories. You'd like us to cover. You can go email property science at G. L. 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The Vow

The Friend Zone

1:37:51 hr | 2 months ago

The Vow

"Our. Apron. Science. Friends. Is the Edison me. It's the fake innings. It's the jumbo ears for me change for me. It's the crispy lips to me is the old left for me. It's the oversized shirt that's not chores to me. It should I don't either issue of course, rejecting you for me. Thank. You. It's been clip of the week wave wherever you know I keep seeing these things that I just pull. Jim's from this always a lesson. So what you just heard was very popular viral tick tock video of two sisters when older when younger who were sparring back and forth and one of those really popular. It's the blank for me battles, right? Insulting to their look she said, it's the Olav Panther assisted. The oldest sister had on some Pajama, Pants Olaf all over. You know she was just going into little girl was quick witted and smart and timely punch lines were hidden. It was great. So in the to said, you know it's the issue crush rejecting you for me. You know that was kind of me it may be but that was so mean, say that little girl it's. Like. She told her that's why so she was upset right she reacted. Let's really break this down for what it is the layers. So she was upset you know and she's shifty. She was comfortable. If at first you know she was fine with going this verbal sparring. She was cool with that when assisted Doug and cut a deep cut low cut a mighty band mighty low eighty said that it's your crushing are recognizing me I know that would piss me off I'm sure there's nothing more humiliating than like somebody in them saying I know and putting the hand in your face. So, of course, a little girl went the fuck off. You know what I'm saying she had braids or you heard was embiid shaking in moving all around and she got up and walked out screaming steal loud as hell still audible, which is a skill that these these little girls have as children you. You don't have to just make your voice carry its way through a rumour facility and I decided mired, but the little girl was out the damage. That's why that's why you'll single. Now, to me. and to me, those weren't insults at that point she was speaking from her heart when you get upset you speak from the heart whether it's to release how you feel or say what you think is best for eleven they are sisters. Okay. So when she told her, that's why you single to me. That was the that was her even in her deepest moments of pain identify an area where her sister wanted to improve could improve and would and. That's love and so I also think that that is an example of why you need check on your strong friends you know what I'm saying. To they are right and that they have a moment to get off your chest. So if we were to have a Hashtag this weekend we'd be. Single. You know dig deep find out or that's why you still together with somebody you don't want either way find your way to happiness. Okay and I felt that from that little girl's spirit and with that being said motherfucking understood I like to welcome everybody to the friends on your weekly look into all things mental health, mental wellness, and mental hygiene because who in the hell wants a musty brain Hello Francesc guy how are you doing? I'm amazing. How are you guys today doing good doing real good. Dustin. Luther King up here running things. That's right. Feeling the black today. God damnit ultra. Goodness. Name. The. Ice Cream last night before I went to bed and I had a dream it was a nightmare. Ice Cream fuck me up. I woke up I was like what kind of? Drugs what the hell is why loosening up everything on their friends Manella Briars for me do you hear me? I had. A nightmare. Saying. That happens to me with some who was it says each I think that stayed had made a you know I don't eat seafood because I'm allergic and. I was like I think I'm more I'm willing to risk it. Piece. Edge was like you are. Not to give me like some allergy. My fucking gums got. itchy. I was like oh Lord. Added cast. Who Allergy personality in it I don't know why I always think about Dr doolittle on with Eddie Murphy there a woman in. Seafood Allergy and she was like Orange in the bathroom stall and I was like, do you really turn orange if you allergic what? Maybe. They should have slam yourself. Get should like somebody slamming a front door they will. That's why. I took the risk, but I didn't eat a lot I just literally it was like a little nibble because I still know that I am trying to get my shutdown always think of Martin episode his face blew up with the big. Data's like girl. You brave for that. You guys have any announcements I mean, it was worth it. Any announces before we start no announcements just really want to thank for the outpouring of support and love that show my new podcast holding court with everything. He had a very successful first week we started in the top twenty, five of the news podcasts period Only black podcast up there So we ran great companies. Thank you and I'm just really really grateful. Thanks to everybody for listening. See you again this Wednesday. Yeah, the listen into this. You know what's next. Okay. So, speaking of episodes. Last week's episode titled Nursing School It was the St. Episode. Two Long. It was all the nurses. Tweeden us for me. emailing me. Shoot the shit episode. So no, but no segments just would ever came up and as always those of you listening had a lot to say who out to you. Asante. Doesn't ask did he lie and I would like to shout out to courtney the emails. The subject here is nursing school Courtney says, Hey, guys I just WanNa shot all the healthcare professionals especially during this pandemic. Thank you. Dustin Ross I'm ICU RN and I work in a unit filled with women and men can't leave the guys out that found out that. Yes. They can do bad all by themselves. If someone says, they're going back to nursing schools, get right nursing school or not. Don't let your spouse field making gay better without you because they just might. I've seen it I love you guys I love the purpose episode with the Sante and somehow I linked with my feelings about lovecraft countries finale also France on purpose helped me find better perspective during the best and worst you. I've had as a nurse stablest shutouts you courtney. Thank you for all of your support and for Aug, perspective right there. That's. What about you? which you you've been soundcloud streets. I have so Erin Marie Ninety six said I was trying to add France listened lately, the new phone who this record by Siaka to music in accidents early downloaded a country song called new phone who's this Christmas Lane and actually goes. So thanks France. That's always that's always a journey when you're like what the fuck is this. Would you rather than the streets? I. WanNa give a huge shot out to our girl Avian Love Perfection on twitter. Very talented producer engineer actually fashion designer, but she actually was shouted out timberline shot her out the other day he was naming like Cya crazy dope young female producers. So I just wanted to give our flowers 'cause you cook in Mama Yeah. So really quick just. Perfection is a bass navy. Dope. Him saying it like Twitter at but I didn't know that that was her producer name. So when he said it, he was like, yeah, you know dope new records by Love Perfection House I. Shit, do you hear him as south fly to see watching it happen is like it's so dope to me so and so well deserved I would like to give wha quicksand to S. M. B. At B. O. W. K. N.. W.. He said the way look at us and just came from Mama has me dying? My Step Dad was the first thing to go and they were. Give us out to really cakes with three S.'s our I cake three S.'s who says my mother fucking ass off I'm not about to play with. Dustin. But why are you so accurate about nursing school when I started school back in a there were so many soon to be divorced moms they decided to quote reclaim their life and decided nursing schools the best option laughing my ass. Thank you. I'm trying to tell you. This is something we might be in a pandemic, but this going to nursing school and leaving your partners epidemic. I have seen it happen time and time again what nc all I have to say. Oh my God. I'm sorry. But when I went on twitter, all the nurses we're like. This is Business. Attendants. Stay would also go come round. STETHOSCOPE IF I if I even see my newest lady come around me with a stethoscope hang around I. Wish you. I'm picking up which put down. Say Go. See who? Are. You have said that in the log So this week's episode I got inspired by the documentary that actually a lot of you were tweeting me and asked me if I'd watched I had it on my watch Q. But just didn't get around to it, and then I was like, let me watch it watch Chris. Leak No it's called the vow. In. Years. About the girls who were getting branded in the court or whatever, and the one. I watched. Let's go. This is okay. So the vow for those of you who don't know is an HBO documentary series that focuses on this cult or what was you know labeled et Cetera Cod nexium. Called nexium. Just say labeled Zab I. Feel like it was so layered you know like it was beyond that. The way he had those women. because. Then Mom's going to be quiet. Let's dust. NAH Makes I'm so thankful that you watched it because I wasn't sure if you guys that seen it because you know it is at the on the splash page. Is it Netflix? Hulu? Right, HBO I use Right Hbo Okay Okay. So it's because I saw it on Hulu because I don't have cable button. So it's a nine part documentary series y'all know my personal relationship with scientology when I was younger. So I didn't get sucked in into scientology the way most of these documentaries have shown people getting swept in because I literally lasted a summer and then I was like Nah Like mine tuition, my gut was a year. This is partly move. pulled. You know a quick stint of. What Of, pulled me into the documentary though was saying that. How the women got pulled in was usually by someone they knew you know a friend someone, they trusted a family member someone from their community that they really looked up to or even celebs that kind of pulled them in and that's what pulled me in 'cause I got pulled into scientology by someone I was dating who was in it who they had gotten pulled him by a couple of their celebrity friends. And they had a singer who I won't name names because she's never publicly claimed her relationship scientologist I don't want to put out there. But they had knowing she was one of my favorite artists they had car my cell phone. To Talk to me about the importance of me building this relationship with this org and you know when you're in your early twenties. First of all, you calling my cell phone Mike what. But this is the pool they had. On Low. I. O. O. Them calling me fucked me up because I was like Oh my God I really was. Yeah. You should not man because the NFL is exactly how we look for don't even tell them. Why won't start cracking jokes that I could cause. But you know when you come from a background Will you were missing a lot of nurturing. You know get love bombed like this like suddenly everyone takes interest in your mental health and your wellness and and giving you tools to to navigate the trauma that you're like experiencing and trying to process and don't necessarily have the tools for, and then all of a sudden, all these people are like come. Come into my bosom like Jawa and really WanNa fuck with chew and not on me Fox you in a negative way. But like really fuck what you like check him out on you calling you. Love bombing is the perfect I can think of because when you don't have that. Feels really nice and I was even reading on insider there's an article titled I grew up in a call and I can tell you why quote unquote normal people join them and she was saying. 'cause you know I think when you read the articles, they always make it seem like it's people who are outcasts like down and out. But when you watch the Nexium documentary, the vow on HBO, a lot of these young women came from like strong households mom and dad raised them. You know had a strong financial backgrounds went good schools. Of. Not The typical stories that you hear and so it Kinda showed you yeah that it's not so much being an outcast or having these needs that have been unmet and now a being met by these manipulative people but it really can't be anyone if they catch you at the time don't. Don't Tan. They never catch him at the town's rely everybody. I thought the bows to stay out the sun as Peres everybody motherfucking documentary was for analyzing. Translucent. What is a? Little Bit. The people look. Of Pearl you do you ever because while I was watching this are they kept going through my mind was, what is it that make certain people more susceptible to these organizations than others being? Okay Real like what is it that that? Like for me I lasted three months. And then I and then I was like an even while in those three months I was unsettled. You know like a lot of what kept me there was because the people that brought me in. What kinda messed with my head a little bit like they were like always your s year resistance you know your ego, your pride because you've never had someone confront you with these things. So you're you're WanNa you know you want to resist the help because you've never had it and there was a part of me. That was like damn. What if I am relieved? That fucked up in the head that like I can't even receive help when it's in front of me now because I've never had it and then you start Kinda getting messed up in that way and I can see how someone would stay you know and but something in my gut overpower that and was like, no. Because the way they were constantly asking for money. Constantly in my face, if I missed one there when weeks suddenly was like they're blowing me up like we were in a relationship and I didn't answer a call like and that kind of felt. Overwhelming and I was like that is not normal that feels. Restrictive you know like I started and you know me like I started getting anxiety and then I was like I gotta get out of this and I and I've pieced out and I was open with you I've been on Jaden xt a couple of times because you know they love science. They add a whole series breaking down the clear documentary. I think that was maybe on HBO to with What's her name remmy? Norman. Leah Remedy. So rows remmy Ramaema. So You know I shared how it wasn't easy to get out because even though I got out, they were like harassing colleen my mom they figured out what she lived and at the time our mom is in the projects. And when you have white men. Coming up to. The dudes from the block asking for my mom by her government name that puts her in in danger because there's going to be like who are these white man and I found that very manipulative on their part. It's almost like they knew what they were doing. Because of they were really looking for her they would just go knock on her door, but they made it a situation. Bringing where they went to the dues on the bench knowing that they're going to think like who she talking to you know, who are these men why they on the block and then that put her in a really threatening situation I didn't sleep for months. Anyway. When they're trying to find because they know because they know that that's the weak spot. That's all they know I'm GONNA be concerned. Right. They knew I was going to be concerned and most likely my will. Right and respond, and then go back. But my mom, she's so g she was like, no, like don't worry about me. I'm you know sixty whatever have know how to take care of my damn self like you do what you gotTa do And so. Yes she was like I will meet them downstairs. Like if they need to talk to me, I'm asking what they want. So you know that was the cool part but. it just got so complicated even like they do little things like no matter where I moved to. Out find a pamphlet of there's in my mailbox just kind of a very subtle way of being. Mike. You can run. High. And so I'm always very sensitive. Yeah. Keeping Tabs like we know like their system is so vast that they know everything that's going on and so. I'm always so curious about documentaries like this because I wonder like what is it that made? Me Have the willpower to get out. and then you watch these documentaries and then there's certain people that they get. So pulled in. So pulled in that they. Detach from their families their own kids on like parents. And just follow the lead to levels that are like from outside looking in because we're not under that trans you know we're like how? Like in the Nexium Doc Asante the women were branded like cattle. With. The leaders initials branded in like the was it their vaginas they. Own this on the side of pill on the side. Riyan rated R.. Rating. From her album logo. And then they would give a lot of what suck them into and kept them. There was they had to give what they call collateral. Like things to keep them in go ahead. That's the. I'M GONNA. Tell you that part for me was the most that would have been red flag number one, the first and final rank actually asked what I'm saying somebody. Asante imagine a more coming up to you trying to run this Kinda. Shit right here like all right well. I feel like you would really like this thing that I wanna tell you about what I just tell you about it unless I can trust you. You know and I, you gotta give me some sort of collateral for me to tell you this about this shit that you didn't even ask me about but I just feel like you would like. Tell me a deep dark secret that you know. You don't want to get outside now, I can trust you. Bitch please like are you out of your mind and Fran remember the One lady said it was a black girl ahead draw hurry and I thought she was lying. Thinks he was lying about that I felt that was a rally braids I was like, no that star photo I. Don't believe I don't believe that not one minute friend but go on but I just want to say that collateral you saw the text messages dusting when 'cause that okay. So the collateral was red flagged number one. Like why if this is a program that's designed to help me process my trauma? Why would I need to send you? Deep dark secrets like what does that have to do with the processing and that's the part that would have been the red. Flag. The second red flag was once you gave the collateral, you had what they called Masters and it was basically the personal seeing your journey through this organization. So you had to text them like morning master you know ask them permission for things right dust it was like the master part. Wait a minute, call their master, and then like it didn't matter when they hit you up, you had to be available to respond on what time it was what time of day nothing friend what the fuck does any of that has to do with God and spirituality like made this. Girl I remember the girl that was talking about the black girl being her masters saying. How she took too long wants to respond and the black was like you're taking too long. You're punished. Now you have to text me before you do anything throughout your day like anything like go to the bathroom e leave like. Like a GE master, do we see a lot of color in the documentary? I'm just curious about just that one black lady secrets I'm just curious about why people feel like My people are always looking for something to be a part of I just don't understand like the thought process or where you have to be mentally or even spiritually. So want to buy into something like this because I'm trying to read along and I see supposed to be self improvement, and then they're doing all this Bush Shou. But I'm just like how does this help anyone and why does anyone want to continue to be some shit like this? And that's the part that's sad about it because. The program itself even though I didn't have access to it I don't know what it was. I never been a part of nexium. But it seemed like it actually was helpful. Right Dustin like the penal seem like it was actually no no no no. No. We can be unbiased in the sense that it did seem like it was helping them process because they probably have never had a space to really sit and confront what they were going through where she got fucked up is that as always? When someone has that much attention and power and all these people coming to them they they think they got Kinda like the devs show remember Sante where like it's like they created something. So amazing. So impactful and it's like there's a fork in the road when when you are at the helm of something like that, you either continue to grow it from a heart space or you become corrupt and thank God and suddenly sex drugs and rock and roll fucking takeover because you just can't handle it and so. I'm sorry. Interrupt you the reason that that I didn't buy it. You know what I'm saying I guess in theory yes, which is saying it's it makes perfect sense that these people finally found a space like you said to have that experience of working through their shit and tool but to me none of it was was was legitimate because it was off rooted in bullshit the head guy what was his name friend? I can't remember eighth Keith Ranieri. He had those other people under him. His Subordinates Aka the grandmasters and the masters fright doing the dirty work. Had He. Those people would not have had any of their reverence for him or any of the systems that he created and been willing to buy into all of that because remember every time you saw him fran his manner his way was real gentle and. Calm and and he was pleasant. He was a pleasant person to be around and why a lot of those ladies develop romantic feelings for hill but he was never telling them the restrictive things and the the negative stuff. He had those people doing his dirty work and for me, that's where I that was the disconnect was for me like how can this be good for them if they're arriving at this place is bullshit that they have to go. Through that they're going to have to work through eventually anyway. So to me, it was just like one big circle of mess and I actually feel bad for those people because although they thought they were working their shit out. Now you've got this whole other baggage that you're going to have to work through man including the issues you thought you had worked out there still going to be right where they were left. So that's why I was like. This is so fucked up the way that they are messing these these people's heads because it's like a dumb Awami of trauma and top of that. He looked like a ferret. That's your period Jesus. It's the hugh but also it's like it's the thing. Of like people can be. Good and do amazing things not good I. Hate that word but people can do amazing things but also can do dark things. You know like we all have the capacity for both and I think that that's what that's what's hard to accept because it's like damn. He did come up with this modality that seemed really helpful and you saw people like in such reverence of him. Naturally going to happen because this I. Bro You fucking help me like I see life differently I feel lighter I can breathe are moving through the world in a different way and it's because of your teaching hard not to almost become a disciple with how gurus are formed. You know because it's like this loyalty that's formed of like I. Only I'm indebted to you. My life is different because you. So that's what I'm saying about the foregin the road because then his you know his shadow side came out to play. It was like. You know that that those those parts of him that funny enough ironically. His own well, yes. His own unmet needs you know. It's almost like he didn't. He didn't even put himself into this modality that he had created because his unmet needs came and started speaking for him and fucking took over this whole system and traumatize everyone involved and so. Party or whatever seeing you know girls getting pregnant and in the part that I find really confusing was that he would make them lose weight. Before, they could have sex with him. And they had to become like waifs like it was very thin and you saw them they looked really unhealthy. I was trying to figure that part out. I feel like they never really talked about that but you know what I thought. What I think it's a mental thing. He was trying to break the motherfuckers down like you just like another control other control tactic to bake them weaker mentally I. think that's what that was. If they felt like they had to physically transform in a way, they're required like discipline and just just a certain type of structure or whatever. When you start getting into regimented behavior like that it does affect your your mind especially when when you're seeking approval of a person especially when you throw sex into the mix so it just. I feel like he was just a master manipulator. He was really trying to just get control over those girls and shit and. It just I hate him. It's like that's just where I'm like I. Hate His guts. Sorry. Did they cover what was happening during these intensive because I I'm reading I'm sorry I'm on the Wikipedia 'cause I just needed some context but yeah, it's a feeling this well. So under this beliefs and practices, they say nexium conducted intensive intensive classes for twelve hours daily for sixteen days. one-sided price was seventy, five, hundred dollars. Classes were divided into modules in one module relationship sourcing students were instructed to explore the benefits they would receive in the event of a partner sudden death. Another Module Dracula and his goals reportedly discussed. Psychopaths and their followers. Like. What is the curriculum. Like I'm yeah. I'm lasted this C- I don't think the dachshund right nothing dot got into the actual curriculum and I think that that was intentional on their behalf because they were trying to give it. The, I don't think they wanted to run it and go all the way. Yeah. You know what I'm saying. For granted feel they take away friend I feel like they the producers of this. Is Reporting To form their, own opinions. I kinda like they did with Os show. wild wha what was it? The wild was the car. While, country. While country where they didn't necessarily. Form it in a way to hate, Oh, show but you know they kinda just laid out the facts and then you decided if you thought he was crazy or not. I'm GonNa tell you something else I watched this after I saw midsummer. So I probably was already awesome. No Way Jose Type Shit, you know what? I'm saying like But your friend. I really hate him. I Hate I. Hate it wasn't growth. And you know what it made me sad because and I've said this before about my experience, a lot of the information I was reading at that time I. Think I was I had to be twenty three really young in your twenty s It was so helpful. It really was. It was helpful. I had never been just given straight up tools like that like just like you feel this try this. And then you try and you'd be like, Oh, Shit I feel the shift you know like just straight up tools and that's what I'm saying that's unfortunate because I think a lot of these org start out I shouldn't say that because I don't know these people so I can't speak for intentions but I'm GONNA assume that they start out actually wanting to create something of impact I could help and then it just goes fucking hey why Because of the human condition and you know like we were saying their unmet needs. Of taking over and it's just so unfortunate because I really did when people ask me like all when you would take the classes what was it like? No Mike, it was really good. The. Old the other red flag scientology is they had this thing. Number. No I didn't get that far. No it was a thing that you would do kind of similar to the collateral, but it was a little more subtle because they wouldn't tell you like we need some. Shady's deep dark secret that you did. They will do it in a different way. It was more like release. You know all the things that are weighing heavy on you so that we can like. Hold onto it for you type thing, and then it was being recorded. So. So you know even with a lot of these celebs that we've seen attached to this, I really feel like it's because they have recordings of them saying heavy shit that they probably would never want released to the public, and that's the way to keep control You know of who says, what who does what, and so that was another red flag for me. When I was like, why do they need to know this stuff? He knows just asking about deep dark secrets and and and let it out. I wish I remember auditing. Auditing Auditing see where they would audit you who i. was. And I, remember I used to panic because I was like Nah something in my body was like this. Don't feel right this don't feel like it's Interested in felt like it was coming from a place of like like because at least a therapist. You do share these things, but there's that client exit is it? A. Privilege where you know you know they can't share that information and it's like. 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Subscribed to something that had a any sort of relevance of those sort of deceitful tactics and you know just blatant deceit like that I just. I can't in the name of something that's supposed to be centered around faith and holiness, and you know good intentions and things of guide like they just don't make no sense and that's why you are entitled to Cuss they ask out when they try to come at you to be a part of all of that to get the fuck from around me for I said Bible up the. You can say that. You could say that, but it's sad though because like the article. That I mentioned from insider with the young lady, her name is actually flo- flower flower floor. L. E. U. R.. Floor Brown She wrote this last year and it was so insightful because one thing she said was that everyone in the coat was so nice. You know like home cooked meals when they would see you hugs and just. Love like you just felt as she was like never felt sinister and that's exactly how it got her even when her friends would come, they will be like everyone is so nice. You know like you just like and think about it in a day to day your interactions, your social interactions, how often you feel warm around people. Like I'm back in Atlanta, and you know what's crazy. It's crazy. 'CAUSE I feel like we're about to get somewhere. I was just saying that somebody's everyone here is so alike and it's not even happy but everybody just is okay or they're when they're okay in New York where everybody is they're not even like unhappy just don't seem okay like even inside everybody does makes everyone's life living hell and just goes I don't care of fear but lie down here everyone's lives each other down here by I don't my whole door for you just because you know I'm like I walked in there anyway like it's so it's So different. So then when you're in a CO probably and Nicholas is doing really heinous shit but everyone's Kinda just uniform because they know that everyone has some subscribe to this one thing is so strange but I think because everyone has subscribed it's almost like everyone's at peace like all of us is running around about the you believe in the Lord is you homosexual? So we're not connecting 'cause we too busy worrying about the wrong Guy Damn things. Meanwhile, they're all worried about the same wrong goddamn thing do. So they kind of. In each other. I don't know man this is you know socially, which is another thing she mentioned in the article is like you know. That type of kindness was so rare and her experience that is just was like honey. Honey to be like this is so nice and she said that's a lot of what kept there and even when she got out, she still missed that element of community and people checking on her and and you know cooked meals. If she needed anything, she was never without you know and and just that sent that that warmth and and. Yeah that that village energy that they kinda had created is. Not CD. What. Is Post traumatic disorder ain't that what the score? You still get shakes. It is yeah. Waking up cold sweat. PT. But I looked online and I saw bustle how to article right and it said if you exhibit these mind personality traits, you're more likely to join a cult. Articles like this. Articles like this tends to be you know it's click. Sounds Fun I. Think people have their different different emotional reasons why these things happen but I did get kids and I was like, let me see what this is saying. And so I just want to read off some of this to see what you guys think. So the biggest one they said is that everyone is approval seeking to some degree right? We all want our friends to like us. We WanNa feel accepted at work and so are we liked being part of cells like groups so those who wanna feel validated. people who are in dire need of approval usually because they have been neglected for so long in their life whether it's just from, you know human touch affection affirming. Caretaking all that people who are in dire need of approval are more susceptible to joining I mean that one kinda makes sense. Got To raise your kids to be tough. Emmy ties into the episode to have The good kid mad city episodes. That we did where it's like, it's it's an element of nature and nurture like, yeah. Some kids are born and they seem like natural born leaders. You see those one year old just be running shit at the daycare. Like s genetic in some instances, but it's also nurture you know like the environment around you and they are things like unmet needs will create someone that is looking for it. Elsewhere, you know is going to create that child. All on top of. Creating, highly obedient child guests with that creates. Remember. We did the episode on compliance whereas like you're going to create a people pleaser someone who people please to their detriment because they don't even know how to have a relationship with how they feel alert intuition of their gut. They know how to be good and do what they're told. So, these are all parental things that contribute to that The second thing they said is those who are seeking on identity. So. When you feel your identity isn't stable, you're not really sure of who you are than a cult makes it simple for you all wearing the same thing we're all doing the same thing dying at the same time. And then those who are followers not leaders and that's the one that I really was trying. So hard to find psychology journals I couldn't really find anything that I felt was impactful but I was like what is it? That makes people, followers and other people leaders. And they all kind of said, the same thing nature versus nurture and the combination of the boat of both you know because leaders are are people who are captivating and dynamic A occult is usually censored around people who are that way who are inspiring all those shapes that are really attractive to someone who's personality lends itself to following others. But I didn't really find what it is. That makes a follower. I guess we can understand it intellectually, but I felt like on an emotional level. I guess that would be. Yeah like genetically like is it really a gene that would make you a leader me a follower. It's a mom gene. You know what's interesting to? Hey y'all been seeing a lot of talk about this. The new APP clubhouse that is like the invite only APP right. Even that is a social experiment and it's funny because. I was watching the vow. While also participating in this APP and just seeing. How the human condition works where there are certain people who will go who were invited into the APP. So there's already that foam. Oh exclusivity. Doing something year now, there's what room was. Go on twitter. Go. They'll go on twitter and and say things that will make you feel or I shouldn't even say make you feel because it might not be everyone's intention because even when we watch versus we go to twitter to talk about it 'cause twitter's really the only space s in real time that allows for that type of conversation. So I'm not saying that's everyone's intention but you know the people that are purposely going onto there because this is invite only and they want you to know that they were invited. And that you weren't. and. I was watching even people how there's certain people that will come on the APP. And they're so fascinated to carve their space and let you know that they are in their moderating chats, starting clubhouses, just boom boom boom, and then there's other people that are like quiet just observing and I was like so interesting to see who takes over a space. You know because there are certain people that within twenty four hours. Popping Actually Mendis one of those people i. Don. No No. No but I think it's amazing because Mandy has such a big energy that even on an APP, you can feel it. She signed on to that APP and I saw him she came on. And within twenty four hours, Mandy was moderated. Boost. She's like Oprah Corner that at and I was like that's so tight. You know but that's what made me wonder even watching the vow and just seeing the social experiment of this APP happening real time of how people there were even people onto trying to kick people out of clubhouse. It's so funny to see how how grass to something or gravitate. It's like it's the it's the need to be included and feel need an Mba a part of something. Does. Go here with notify even people changing their twitter names to like clubhouse. France. You know what I mean and and. And on another scale because my brain I was thinking about this all weekend. Why can't people just enjoy an artist? Why does your twitter have to suddenly become the artist's picture? You know and like stands like stand culture. Why can't you just say I really enjoy. Mariah Carey. But now my my picture, my Avatar on twitter's more Kerry. She's all at talk about People on twitter who mentioned her insight it's so the that need to feel like you're part of something s I beyond caller stands a beehive is perfect because it's a high. Content Literal Hive mentality and its and so all of these things feel like. Know interconnected obviously, the nexium call is a different level of that but just seeing. Followers leaders and being needed identity, which willing to do for that. How far will it go? Are you? You know so everything's a social experiment and this weekend I felt like my brain just observing all. Through the show and through the I love that this kind of feeds into a lot of everything that we've been talking about like your ties back into like purpose and even kind of what I've been. Even the threat that I've been trying to pull that like I think you've given me what I WANNA call it or like what I wanna stay it is this threat of Oh shit will the we took it right then and there nine even spark. Is the threat of of how ideas or thoughts or sparked and how they live on the way that I've look at it because it's like like what gave you this idea that by joining this that your life would be better or by like changing your Abbey here Stanford this person like it's supposed nutritional value or like what's the substance it asked to? Your life like I would like the birth of these thoughts and ideas is what I've been thinking about these past few episodes. So this ties perfectly into all of that too. So Kudos, for and I love your brain is, yes. People are thinking they need something outside of them bottom WanNa say like it's been an experience for me watching this clubhouse mania because. There has long been an APP that his invitation only that a lot of celebrities and People with public profiles us for like dating. It's like version of like a tender and you know what I'm talking about you have to get invited. Because we've had we've had friends on it and they literally you know people are on there and so but nobody really talks about it, and so it maintains this sort of exclusivity. You know what I mean that makes people feel comfortable using it for that or whatever. I'm on there I got invited but I didn't I didn't do. Types it. Anyway. But. That's been around for so long and I know so many people who have used it and use it. So now when I see these niggers on clubhouse thinking they doing something like by being off clubhouses funny to me nothing against it or whatever. But it's just like Ma'am and Sir this is not even to acting like it is that exist and it's an interesting at like I'll give it to you. There have been some conversations on there that I can see how this APP is absolutely going to be the next wave and I was talking Ha's about this. Like. Hey how's I was saying how is so interesting because you know we're on all of these APPs. And you think like there can't be another one. What else could we possibly come up with and then boom? Like clubhouse comes and is a technology that I've never seen. You know like it's different. It's something. Cool. It's it's what's making people obsessed with it because it's very cool. It's like literally like live podcast and you know like. Alive podcast show. on your phone with people that you enjoy people, you probably would never be able to interact with the year on. Quote Unquote Stage with you know. So yes, there's elements of it that I'm like I get it. This APP is amazing but to me outside of the actual APP and its usage is more. So the social aspect of that I'm watching how it's unfolding in real time and seeing those who. Who really take this this invite only aspect and the fact that they're in as like some kind of meaning and validation for something, and that's the part that I'm like I hate that we feel that. Hate that an APP can make us feel that way. You know it's an APP. That you didn't know about two days ago. that. It has no effect on your life granted yet not networking. You'RE GONNA meet people you probably GonNa get money grants things that are actually life altering. Yes. I understand that but it's more soldiers the foam O of. Book you know they were the ones that started the whole trend of will we not GonNa let certain people now with good reason When it was just. For that for that, that was with good reason. But when I think about like the social aspect of which of this new, App I think about my space like remember everybody had to see who was gonna make the hottest pages and they end up in everybody's talking a put nobody in bears like it looks like that to me. So I definitely can see how this is going to be interesting to see how it unfolds and even among us there's been infighting because. The AP apparently started with tech dudes. It was very white. Dude having a space to talk know about startups and doing like teco the week like a pop culture tech talks you know what I mean and it was like. Well that's the so funny it was like Angel Investors and ways for people to like have that space. Apparently, some of the tech people started saying some antisemitic things that got recorded because obviously it's an audio app you are going to be recorded and is going to be shared, and then they got kicked off and then people were scared to be on and so they were like somehow the blasphemy. Ain't that some shit. is how I see I. Don't know I can't confirm. But I feel like they was like we need new blood because this one got you know. Corrupted and who better than. The blacks to start a wave because that's exactly what the fuck happened now. Yellow, the conversations went from. You Know Bitcoin is at thirteen point five K, and now you go is like. Men are trash. Bitch she's though my Hoodie like it's funny is just watching shit transform like but. And so there was a by a lot of infighting where people were like, oh, the blacks here now the Shit's ghetto. Turned urban. You know and and e Sa. Even when chat where people like do you now feel like you don't belong here you know it's just fun saying that after Mandy Kane. Full. Corp said not up in here God. Damnit. Fandy. But you know all of this is interesting like like I said I was experiencing this APP watching this documentary thinking about my own experiences with like how much of my power I give it away to people apps concepts you know like in so it's all Kinda ties together in that's why I just wanted to throw. Out there. You know the ABSO- making. Cool. A Guru doesn't have an answer for you like it's all tapped into the same bottom line that we're all looking for some type of validation and I get it to you. There was There's Bass astrologer that goes by the People's Oracle. On on twitter, she's really Dana. And she was saying that she actually. feels. Uncomfortable when people say like You know you need to love yourself or he'll yourself before you can love someone else 'cause she's like that's how you learn do relationships. Like. Evolution is relational and I felt her because I was like damn. That's some real shit. Like. It kind of made me pause. And even think about my own belief systems in regards to that and I love that she she broke down a whole body. You can definitely go on twitter and check it out because it was this week and it just Kinda tied into that like, yeah. There is an element of you trusting that you have what you need. But there's also the element of we do need each other. And to a certain extent you know. So that's why all these things is just such a allocate dance of knowing how much of what you need. and. That's why these. Can play on our emotions and these cult leaders. COMPLA- on our emotions because they know a lot of us don't know that balance yet a haven't figured out that delicate dance. So. If you haven't watched the vow. Is Definitely something interesting even scientology is called clear. All of those just studies on when we give our power away and it's something that I think we should consider in all aspects, our jobs, our friendships, our relationships. How much of your power you giving away on a daily basis and what can you do to get that? Or great discussion frank because I thought then people was crazier than a betsy bug and also don't recognize that lady from television either I'm just GonNa say that because. I felt like soon. To know this was in a television show and it's like Ma'am never seen you before my life. She swore Schuster war like just. My God. I'm like lady. Any. Say. Anything you guys want to add before we. Don't fall for the Okie Doke keep your eyes open and shit. You know what? I'm saying you know this. fucking tell you good for you, and if it doesn't fit, you must acquit you gotTa Follow Your Instincts Trust your instincts, gut feeling never lead you wrong and don't let nobody feel like you gotta tell them personal businesses collateral to give you. Didn't even ask for in the first day plays insane. Thank you. Nothing agree conversation I guess Burr all of those out there that they end up in a coat or think they end up in a cold thing twice don't do it three times shit have you ever met anybody or seen like somebody like left a call on a TV show because those people always interest me like the most like I remember growing up and watching the. Real world and there was a white girl she's to her family, left some coat and then on most recently black ink crew Dan what's the one on the West Coast they? They just did on the west coast and it was a black girl on there she left a call and she was poor now shouldn't they were trying to judge her but Dan. Those stories on TV. Damn us. Yeah. I'm always fascinated especially when they untethered it's like what what made you finally get to that point you could do that there's actually a This woman on Youtube that I used to watch for years her name she goes by Teal Swan and she would like breakdown defend concepts, spiritual concepts and I really was like am. She's been dropping some shit. Some fucking gems and there were certain things that didn't resonate. But for the most part a lot did and. I remember I never really look into people's lives like that because I'm like it don't matter to me who she is what she is like if the message is hit in the messages hidden but I saw some article about her having actually escaped a sex cult likes but she escaped from childhood like she was a little kid born into one. Right, so her parents were in it and she was raised and born and raised and it had to. Break through that as an adult with like that's a different whole different level of programming, and so the see what she talks about. Now, you can Kinda even understand why she's at that level because the shit's she had to process you know that's like A. A Whole different kind of breakthrough. So. Yeah, I'm always fascinated with those stories too which is why I got sucked in when people were tweeted me like fair you gotTa. Watch the vows something I feel like you would like I was like y'all know me well. I watched that whole nine part series and it's just you know outside of feeling what you feel judging their experiences is just resonating. Really. Yeah. It's just really highlighting how delicate being a human is regardless of your back is just really highlights how delicate this experience and something that I think. Walmart says. Don't have to wait until November third to cast your ballot be in October voter. 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So because I've talked enough, we're to jump into the music man Asante. Let us know what got this week. That's right. We skipping it around. So you know if you still hear some wind chimes, we're going remix right into the. Sick man okay. So you know a lot of new music came out I have not had a chance to listen to everything because I came down South and so I've just been checking out the radio to see what's been going on but I do want to discuss what I did get to listen to, and that's that new type Alison. Natale sign I just I I don't know why Taliban titles on his hits for me but this project was just another hit for me. The project is actually titled Featuring Tied Dollar Sign and there are twenty five tracks. I mean. What better way to name your for like nine I, think his debut because he's put out projects before. So I don't know what he would actually call this outside of album I it's not a debut album but he just does a great job of being able to blend with whatever artsy has but still keeping his signature sounds and not just in his vocals. So shot up two thousand for doing that solid solid project. Again, it's twenty five tracks Did you either of you have a chance to listen through pick out some phase hurt anything semi singles or anything? I browsed around I browsed around it. You know what I'm saying and everything that I liked I heard I did I was surprised because I was was playing in the background and I was like coming in and out of paying attention So I heard a bit of it and I got familiar with the vibe of the album overall and it was great and everybody Oh, the nigger favor. So he has these features on. CAST everybody is on this album because he didn't been on everybody else's album and you say what you want tied dollar sign is a very talented and be he will make a song better like with his contribution he'll make us he'll make me like a song I love tighter don't know about you but not saying by dollar side fires. Well, Damn I, guess I won't say how I. Damn. So say about spray give it to us how you feel and. I'm GONNA be honest. I couldn't connect with it. And I wish that it could have been tied dollar side. I WanNa hear you who is he and I get hardest we WANNA know like I wanna hear you like isn't this technically his first Mike his debut that's what I was trying to see because he's put together our blades they sound like album so that's why I was like. Because you know Beach House, there were vibes on be child's, and those are technically mix tapes, right? True. True survey safes. Yeah Yeah Well. I. Was a lot of people I was like that's a lot of people sporadic. They felt very DJ callous. Imposed a gallon you can understand because he's not an artist he's a curator. Produce as executive producers he just knows how to bring the right people to create interesting music but tied all. This is an actual artists and a dope wanted that. So it almost made me wonder like. What was it? That didn't make him feel like, yeah, I'm giving my shit. Maybe a couple of features you know I don't know that's just. Musical background to because I'M GONNA look it up right now but his dad was. In a seventies group hold on tight dollar signed Oh. Wow. Really. Bother. His Dad was. Tyrone Griffiths tyrone. Griffin senior he played in lakeside the eighties funk band lakeside liked Yana who lakeside is lakes I. had plenty of hits in the eighties and like you know they're they were an important funk group. So he comes from good musical stock. He's been listening to good music and musicality instead all his life. So I appreciate what tied other signed brings to music and I to friends with like an album just from him like let's. Get to know who you are beyond making songs that jail you know. Yes. Beyond. Features features, and you know with that said, it would be great if it were the follow up album instead of featuring ties dow was like just high dollar sign that'd be cute. Just tag. That would be really really cute marketing great perspective, Love, both love of Outside of tired out the new top dollar sign because really what I got to listen to was the track we're cutty, which I was really feeling temptations and then I wish check anything with Big Sean on it tyrone twenty twenty one those where like the tracks that I play like back to back mostly just because I clicked on those first because I want to hear those first but I'm GonNa, go back and and listen to the rest of two and and give you a better opinion because everything was played in the background and it sounded really Nice I was like okay tie sounds like he's hitting here. This sounds good I'm a revisit this okay Outside of tidal sign I do want to just play you might listen lately. And then I'm GONNA. Just hand this over to you to and then there's like one or two more games gonNA talk about, and then we can move on I am down in Atlanta and I've been listening right still doing that land I will. Not, no. Back. In time to vote I promise. You know what I'm saying you know go vote you might hurt the ad already or that's come anyway. But because I'm down here, you know I've been able to listen to music car. So is like me reconnected with music all over again I'm like oh she. Like this, this is so also in the spirit reconnecting. So we, she dropped a song and one of the things that I used to love about sweetie is the way she kinda sing and write a melody. So we draft a new song where she's doing a little bit more at singing and it's featuring genego. Fr- friend. Jason said she slid on this shit. You know that brand. I don't know. I I don't know where my services acting like this but I don't know what I was expecting when I clicked on it just like all right sweetie I knew Naysayer saw no, it's GonNa be something Nice right like like at least but to hear, and then it'd be like more than what you could have asked for, and then just be like damn like. Like somebody really was just like it was a vision here. There was something more here than just like we gotta do a record together because you know some artists like they just put out a record. It's like all right. Well, they will just like it's our time since. Janine, making her rounds or so he's making around but like they actually both sound like Oh there was a line of thought put behind this. So this song's called back to the streets I just played it like ten different times already this morning and it's still just not gonna work on my phone. So I'm just going to pull out my laptop really fast for you guys hosting it just seeing it. Okay must have live. Give us a live performances. Ain't doing that. She give us a lively lately I think that'd be so. So avant-garde should do it. What's the? I would've your name one's own. So, this is back to the streets so we need featuring Tobago. Turning Fish I applied to. Try it out. Today. But I don't know. David where blow. Daddy. Daddy. Something when to the state. House and up that only. What you think was. Wish. Had, they hit the HEISMAN I. That may that. my Ex. County and. Back to the streets I love love love saluting when she's singing like that sounds so cute like it just makes me feel like Hopefully things don't end up, bring and clayborn. She Ain't got to go back to the streets but I just love the fact that you know she sounds so happy in the song even though it you know because you know she had to go back. She's still badly so she could go back to the streets but she got still okay were praising her and Quavo. But it was also cute later on the here engineer rap and do her little sing thing I'm just loving Jamais the season again if you haven't seen as tiny get home by the way makes you go check that out because she slid on that also as well. I just have to say that would that. There's one more thing I'm gonNA share just a little bit later but I want to get into what you have been listening to late. Lee. Friend I want to know what you been properly your headphones. Okay. It's tell me was been popping which girl. Well you already know. Alex Eisley every time. Every time Alex is the end Jag Dine what Combo those students just like. Do Project. Happened Man Yeah Chew. I wonder if they're setting up for that, they have to be. So they dropped a record call mine and it is amazing. I'm just going to play because as the necessay. No. Those Brown seaside nobody? No. Nobody knows. I'M ON A. Go Event Phase Changes you. Don't show. 'cause what I've seen. This happen. How? Follow. Say. Once. Again. Always been. She said, I'll do this life all over again just to meet you once again are you kidding me incredible incredible vocal. I tell you hit my chest. You know I'm a mush the power that. The rains at this. impacted. Been, mine? Man. Alex. how is it possible for an artist to never miss how Alex like how is it possible? Only you have the answer. She except in man and then Jerome Thomas Member mentioned Jerome Thomas before he's so. he's actually so sweet after shot him out because I'd already listen to his new song that dropped because at you know how you define if you follow the artists. When they dropped new music spotify but creates a playlist of like radar. Think it's called So anyone that you're following it Kinda, you know aggregrates a playlist of the newest songs. Sorry. Heard it. But he DM's me like to tell me that he dropped the news hour. I was like Oh wait like. I'm on like I'm on it follow you I told him I was like already love it. It's amazing and I'm playing in the zone. So he was like what? Super super talented. So Jerome, Thomas is called right there and this our goes. Oh and. Baby Unknown Uh. Tang. Just be. Comedy. Times. Just. To speak your. He reminds me of like late ninety sound. Like Ma'am like Myra. He's in that lineage of just that like Kinda Neo Soul ish arm bees but late nineties when that crew came out what do they call the so querying kind of gives me. So shout out to Jerome and out to Alex what about you toaster Ross with us she'd been listening to I've been digging in the crates this week and then there's some new shit that I like to. So when it comes to the old songs, the first one I'm GonNa play actually by plies is caught I'm the man featuring trey, Songz? -ffiliated. Resumes. Full of. All. Kill. What they called A. Pocket pulling. With owner will. Thrill. Man Hey. Bill. Yes. I'm the Trey Songz. Also, there's a hidden gem on that album. The album is co definition of real, and there's a song on their card number one fan featuring Keesa Colin J. And it is amazing. kikuko scenes. The First Chorus Day holiday sings the second and third. Together soaring. And it's a great song and it starts off by saying it's plies baby. So you'll like. The next song that I've been listening to is another old it came out in ninety nine but this is a hip hop. Classic is Binary Ega is sometimes. Fact Brooklyn Life death. took. Like the regular. Only. Meets the. Track I sat thinking. It's Nigga Pony. Not Yet? On the same. On hand in. Nine hundred. Definitely. Matter, of fact. Sad poppy. Protect your. Even. Sometimes. It's amazing. The third and final that I WANNA play actually buy new artists that. She just like she wanted me over I started listening to music I like our vibe and I'm fucking with the music. So it's actually queen is off her new album misunderstood. They comes out Tober thirtieth in the songs lied to me featuring. In this is my shit. into. His wasn't going to be full. Call me stupid I what the Helen? I've been in studio and focused on my music. Turn the press you but the whole the tube is growing up. I I. Know I got the keys. Your heart. You're. The one. As you thought it was you'll be. No Respect. Away. Broken promises. David. Lewd lies on yet saying red. And also, Clinton is a hey, hey, collab- track would be amazing I. Just want to put that out into the universe onto dose. Okay. Shut off to Quin Naza. She didn't came up she. She'd been putting out music and working in continuously going. So out is on to clean Hard break out of the lack of influence into artist transition like people don't take seriously. So she doing that and that's it for me. That's all you're be listening to. Oh Savior Omar's album dropped off. Were what the fuck is with me absolutely shot executive cloud good. Isn't it? He snapped he went CR-. I told you I was like this album is his best work yet which saying a lot because his work is the best. I'M GONNA definitely. I'M GONNA play I'm GonNa, live. He always makes music especially for like the vibe in the field of the moment so. I'm telling you next. Album I have had it. Non Stop playing for I kid you not every day every day every day for the past two and a half I just love the way that it looks like the picture. Cover like the black and white would just the subtle like colors but it's everything about it every. So to. Marie. He all our. Saito's here. Marib was actually the last track which I think is going to be great track is called like I. Feel some I'm excited to listen to this and this. And everybody's fucking talking about it too. So signing him for visibility that he literally deserves who you know that's that's our home. So Yes he's definitely friends on Fam-. Speaking of Friends family I wanted to shout out a couple rappers. They're both they both fans of the show they have listened to the show. They both added me I'm watching y'all both. So I have listened to the music yet, but I'm going to definitely check out our Caesar. Caesar he's a gay rapper. He can actually wrap his ass off I know exactly who you're talking about. Well, that's what I'm talking about at all I'm so sorry. Isn't our money Caesar. Girl? Yes. Armani ceases woman she signed to Griselda records 'cause Zelda. Way You said, she listens to the show. She tweeted me she says she was. So. I was sad. When I seen I was like when she made, you listen to this show. So that's so dope she's. Dope is that sound like you know I don't know a lot of rappers but she because I love Griselda and they've been pumping her music and she's beautiful she's Gorgeous she studies but also the combination is unfair. I'm like, hi, that talent you just put on a project called the lease, and so I watched a couple of the videos from West Palm Angels and I simply done featuring beneath the butcher she she spits her she looks ACT Like I enlisted issue. Yeah. You did that she spits. She she she's got. She's got a nice tongue and she looks great and she she does everything that I want. So from New York right like. Boom. So yeah, you. Definitely have to shot her out this week. It's going to just do a little subtle some but book the spy. So absolutely. Exciting to do now, you know it's all over here money Caesar another represent what the shutout. Is Armani is our money why his name was Social Armani blank I don't know what it was about the Armani's you know it was just something. I. Was GonNa shot them both outside Italy. Maybe. I'm to ask. Some the. Rap? I'm. Reminded can't wrap. His Bio on twitter is literally I make Happy Hood Music so I haven't been on. Ready there's a clip and he's been posted to the. Tweet but I'm a check him out and then I'm GonNa let you guys know if you guys want to do some homework definitely, check out our mighty white. He's Armani Blanco on twitter and hit up Armani season and show some love to either when you are listening Janos level in the zone. So that does it for the music man segment I wanna go ahead and kick it over to. See what you've been listening to over here TV. Watching a rather on TV land CNN man, I just been keeping my TV. On CNN all night Don Lemon show I watched so many different shows on. CNN. So I really been paying my television space with everything that's going on the election, the end Cyrus. Today have to the podcast absolutely and and also just to be informed in my regular all life. You know what I'm saying is so much shit going on there. I don't like missing nothing. So I've really been watching a lot of news reading a lot of news headlines as far as television for like Leisure and recreation. Of course, the real housewives of atomic has still been keeping my attention Still Team Monique candice needs beat again actually carrying are the only real ones I'm tired of Wendy. We don't even know like the and she always inserting herself just just very just she interrupts everything and I really wanted to like Wendy when I first saw she was strikingly beautiful. So I was already like buying in just like her look in the first place but the more and more that she just. She just didn't come off well for me. The season I'm sorry and Kansas is inciting people to violence. Inciting people to violence, and so you gotta ask yourself coversation some. To Kura. The way you. Just. To Five. But she does and the girl on Bravo's chat room, which is the talk show that were the executive producers. B.. C.. Okay. She got that ASS whooping b-flat beat. That's I. got that adds up that song is called he loves Eli Alien E flat. Yeah. Well. Candidates versus cost she beats me as within beef lead for beat. Been Anyway you gotta add like the Girl Bravo Sarum said you gotta ask yourself at a certain point why do everybody wants to beat my ass? You know what? I'm saying like that you have to ask yourself that and she just hasn't Leonard. She's been grossly disrespect to Ashley who has really wanted me over personally this season. So I'm excited about it. Another thing we're going to watch the real housewives of Salt Lake City as a family I decided that means you Fran you Asante in me desk. is about to start brand new franchise on new. People we can get to know them together. Yeah. We can hate on. It starts I believe the end of this month coming soon. So. You can watch I'll send you the trailer and stuff. And then you can watch it so. There you go. So we're going to ask family and listeners that means all to so. Lake City is going to be on our radar. Let me think what else? Thought Lakes. Right and they're going to be more men. Some of them are some of them do have. Mormon. Background. Some of them Have Mormon background. NO LONGER WANNA be a part of the Mormon religion because of what they alleged to be racist practices Oh so it's GonNa go there and then the the One lady on there who already know it's going to get on my nerves she married her grandmother's second husband to like keep the family money or whatever the fuck they like. They're in the church it's a lot. So we watching it okay. I said that they were going to watch it. Yeah. We're watching it out and shot out to the real housewives of Beverly Hills because they cast their first America's me. That's our ninety on salt. Lake City. We're not GONNA like Mary. Can already tell can't you don't like it and she has a she bears a strikingly resemblance to what's The lady's name for Mad TV Debra Wilson. That she was like Debra Wilson will play her on Mad TV don't see your son. Yes. Okay. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Okay. Now there is. You should see the picture I'm looking at I don't want to. Says striking was. Founded on the screen aside taste so. I was getting ready to tell you. Oh, the real housewives of Beverly Hills. Let me just look this up really quick because oh I wanNA give a shot up to them. They added their first Asian American cast member to the season. Crystal. Kong minkoff Yep Crystal what's her Middle Name Kong K. U. N. G. Minkoff and she's married to the guy who directed the original Lion King. Long long long money. So shot them for continuing to diversify the cast. You know they added Garcia over last year she's returning full-time again, this year for season seven. Also, Kathy Hilton has joined the real housewives of Beverly Hills for season eleven. She's going to be a friend of the cash. We all know that she's the sister of Kyle Ridges and Kim Richards who are longtime cast members. Also Kathy Hilton. Aka Perez. Hilton's Mama. So this is GonNa be good. There's going to be real on yeah. She's just a friend. No she's not coming on as a friend and I don't know I don't know Kim coming back as a friend to Kim hasn't been on as the main in a while but I know there's opposition between the sisters and there has been for a very very long time. So, this is going to be interesting to watch Kathy with Kyle because. Colleen and Catherine really been fucked with each other and I look you wonder if it's because the way they count sheets Kim on camera and now no, she's coming on the correct how it's GonNa play out. Can't wait sorry hey, you may you making me live I? I've always loved Beverly Hills has always been looked random juicy pieces in there but it's not something that I recommend people to start from the beginning because it really just wrote the way. But when things were happening like when the OJ Shit was happening Like there was a whole storyline happening on there too. I was like this is like, what are you doing so? Grand. the other day I. was saving my head and I was like I just need some background noise ever since Theresa voted for Donald, trump and was vocal about it. I just haven't had nothing for the real housewives of New Jersey, I just been interested like whatever and so randomly Long Story Short Bravo has these amazing after show videos and episodes summary Videos that. They upload to their Youtube Channel and sometimes auto play. They'll just show up in my you know my youtube, and so I was watching a scene where this lady named Jackie was leading Theresa's as have it. I was like I like her and it didn't even have anything to do with my personal disdain for three set this time because theresa used to be one of. My favorite housewives ever like I loved her in the first two seasons Jersey. But after they did a shift in invited like her her family onto the show, it just got really weird and draining exhausting in she went to jail and she voted for Donald Trump and I just completely let go of her but this lady named Jackie tour into her as and if. It re re ignited my interest in their filming the new season now and I found out that this lady named Jackie I guess is going to be odds with everybody this season because somebody accuser husband of cheating her Teresa go at it. So I'm GonNa Watch the real housewives of New Jersey again I think for this upcoming season I'm GonNa give them a go. Fuck. Yeah That's it. Did you. Yeah. Back in the day like when it was you know like early early on I watch Jersey New York. Atlanta little bit Juergen oc no I never watched the OC is. New York Atlanta and Jersey and then you know I fell off because there's just so many. After a while I was like, all right. But those three are definitely Usta we're GonNa Watch Salt Lake City together, I used to watch oc in the very very beginning but that's because I still like the other shows come on Bravo but I like barely even remember that chapter now because we've been overloaded with so much other shit now. People are not really watching are supporting rather this insee people. There's a lot of people who are choosing not to support this season of the house of Orange County because there's a lady on their name Kelly died and I guess he's been doing like some really racist Shit. And Yeah and people just are not there like this doesn't make sense in addition to the fact that there's no originals on their cast anymore. So it's just a bunch of people who like Vicky Gumbleton that's always chaos she's gone. It's just. So and I guess he also, if you don't know if you don't already follow the account peach report daily on Instagram and twitter is the best real housewives fan page ever in existence ever in life and they have real actual information that's new they drop hints never really give away anything crucial to the story line. So you still enjoy the season as it plays out just a wonderful page to follow up the Peach report daily but they've been dropping a lotta hints about this upcoming season thirteen at the housewives of Atlanta the ladies are all in new. Orleans. Currently filming. one of their cash trips they went on to trips. This year went to Charleston for Cynthia Bailey's BACHELORETTE party. And now they're all in New Orleans all of the trips normally like last year they last season rather they went to Greece they've gone to Tokyo they go into you name it, they go all over the world but of course, because of the coronavirus pandemic, all of the trips and traveling had to be domestic this year and we're grateful to even have that because it's been. So if he with filming and and. Traveling restrictions and things like that. But according to the peach report daily, we're going to get a fucking season they. They tried tens yesterday that the trailer is supposed to come out maybe this week or either early next four, season thirteen we'll have a cast announcement. We'll know who are hold the peaches and who doesn't and all that fun stuff but the toy forever who I'm a big fan of her youtube channel wants a found out. I found out she was involved in the show I was like well, let me get into her youtube and instantly fell in love with our beautiful family and says interesting and it's just you fall in love with her watching her and apparently she is definitely in the mixed this season Surin up shit. Yeah I wonder if my nose you know that's one of my is like closest. Makes Perfect sense because he seems so. Yeah that's how I know it because she's my in her know each other from Toronto. So their friends from back and Canada's I'm like Oh this is looking forward to it i. think he's going to be good. I think so too. Oh. Yeah. That's if everybody will as always. Thank you so much for listening. We love you guys so much and we will catch you guys next week. Stay Black and protect your magic by.

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Find Our Way Back

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So the we testify abortion storyteller say it's time speak-out against Ho temporary and Tomfoolery and racist abortion bans making access harder. Everyone loves someone who had an abortion show you abortion story at we testified DOT, Org? Sometimes. Food is more than just food is part of our community, and thus where discover comes in this year, they are given five million dollars to support black owned restaurants that money is going to places like Rodney, Scott Barbecue post office pies, and hundreds more. So learn how you can show your support over at discover dot com. All right. Let's start the show. All right. y'All welcome back. To this cluster, fuck. I'm actor choreographer all around bad bitch and star of P, valley stars. Burundi Evan San I M Lupita. Neon go. This is three. Yes, it is back again. Finally I suppose honor the Hell Y'all bitches whereby where here. As usual, you know on time and things of that nature. Yes. So we I, just quickly say that. We took some time off. for reasons that have been disclosed I personally was. In a place, emotionally that was life or death and needed to let my brain. Cool. So. Thanks to those of you who understand understood said, kind things appreciate Ed and. I'm ready to get back into the bullshit. fareless. Go. All. Right. So I up black excellence. This week is going to one Marseille Martin and I'll tell you why faith. Marseille Martin. Just. Got a new talk show on. Working Tyler's tiny talk show 'cause I don't know if you know much about quickly, but it's this. New Streaming Service available on mobile and I actually personally really enjoy quickly I've had it since like they launched just out of curiosity, but like the content is in short bursts flying. Anywhere, between like five minutes times, ten minute videos and you've got real full-fledged big budget. Like. Scripted shows, unscripted shows, and it also just works for a bitch like me who is kind of eighty and. You know just once again in and out of the content. Yeah. Well, apparently, tiny talk shows going to be the world's smallest functional talk show. It's going to have a set that is one six scale of traditional talk show set and deadline says It will be intimate revealing devoted to subjects with a lot to say Marseille will ask guests some big questions and serious through this new world as we discover. Sometimes, the littlest voices are the loudest. Of course, Marseille is big dog and executive producer at things because you know she has production company because she's the dog that serve fifteen years ever. I'm really excited about this. I think this is really a perfect for the type of talent that she possesses. I'm really interested to see what a fifteen year old of today does with that type of platform. Yeah, and Yeah, I'm offer this girl shining and all of the ways she's been shining since she got here. Yeah. I was just about to say like Marseille Martin has been nothing less than impressive since the very first moment we also black is like she's absolutely. Absolutely. Incredible. So shout out to the parents over there and two young Marseille herself because I know she is GonNa do great things with this. congrats absolutely, and also I just wanted to take this blackhawks. Say Shoutout to shake who lay for a all stars five. Bitch I wept funding I needed that. So fucking bad. My NIGGA. 'cause the top three. It was Ju-. Gb Shakoor. Les. Mis Cracker and I was like no shade. I like Miss Cracker. I will not be mad of Juju begets it just because you know she was season two I think originally come back for another all-stars in. She was fantastic. This entire season of all stars too. But I needed that crown to go to my basement literal favorite drag race star and. I'm just glad that that's exactly what happened. Got Me Renault the reason that it actually got me emotional because it reminded me. That like sometimes, you'll spend your whole life trying to get to the fiftieth floor and thinking like that's where it's supposed to be. That's my stuff. The girls are on the fifty. You get there the doors locked and you feel like it was all for nothing. You're wrong and God, is like no girl you're supposed to be getting off at the hundredth floor like keep going. This is. The one for us is cute I, understand why you think it's cute. But like this, your stop girl, you had to keep going when that didn't get her original crown, you are meant to get the allstars crown. Know you're mets coming back with the best of the best and be Danny? And get that crime like that's what God had for you, and I just love it was beautiful beautiful to look at it. Also flow Mealey's mix tape is My favorite new thing to Mobile Alabama. I absolutely love familly. She's just she doesn't miss when it comes to hits. She just makes. All righty? Well, let's do some hot tops. Yes. Let's do that. This is our pop culture segment called hot tops. Dreams may come. We're going to go through a couple of things. that. Be May have. Not. Spoken with you folks about yeah. I mean, it's been two years of content in two weeks so. Absolutely. True. Lot there. So first and foremost only Mirage is pregnant. That's right girls. The head Barbie and shards posted a slew of maternity photographs on her instagram page couple of weeks back. Two of them where she's giving you. Fully, what I would've expected if someone said imagine and. is pregnancy bags like bright yellow starburst way colorful. I make up a light pink lip, and then it's like bejeweled Burr crusted bikini moment whether p valley sues on and. and. Willie Wonka meets the Strip club. She legitimately looks like a gummy bear. She looks like magic mystery I part of her history, and she's the secretive gummy very juice. siedle looks like a Haribo gummy bear are how? She does. Pregnant. Oh. Super. Everywhere. And these this is actually also like talons down, but even for. Just, a bikini puts them. Sparkle should honor Bikini Bats. I don't even WanNa look at your hoes. There was also a picture posted that was shot by David Lachapelle, which is much grander and has some sort of creative vision into a it looks kind of like she's A. Magical Queen of an enchanted barbed forest walking through a portal and says, Hey, girls, the next upcoming is nigh. And I'm sure the barbs took it that way it was. It was. Yeah. took the pictures, but either way I'm happy for her. She looked really happy I, can't wait to see her face, get all spread out 'cause I love when like when women are just about to pop and their nose and face gets a little. I just think it is the previous I. Don't know. I think. It's so cute. But I'd love that. I also kind of hope that she has a boy just which she can say I'm. All these bitches is my sons Elisha are whatever. Nicholas are tyree. I'll know it has to be on Nicholas Police. Nikki. I'll just see her naming the baby nickel. Stick that it would. Be We need it. I'm. I'm. Her Baby Father Husband possibly manager now, why them is not qualified a miniature. This probably is just a court thing but apparently, he was trying to get like permission from a judge to. Travel with her and actually be present for the baby's birth. Like. You. Know they live in Los Angeles maybe an Nikki's planning to go to hospital somewhere else for the birth or? A Midwife for somewhere I duNno? I don't know actually. Maybe that's it. Maybe, you? Guys thinking go nowhere. Are He just got permission to use the fucking Internet? I wouldn't be surprised I. Think he is on House Arrest Dan. Yeah. Just because of his His sex offender status and history to the first degree. Rape Charge got an ninety five. that and apparently being pretrial for this failure to register as a sex offender when he moved to L. A. With Nike. So, he still waiting for the trial for that. So because of whatever legally makes the mayor, he actually had to get permission from the judge to travel with her ask her manager. I feel like maybe. I. Hope Maybe Ashur Manager Part is just something again. That's like why else would you need to travel with? You don't mean like maybe he is like I'm traveling with her which needs to go places because our manager. Because otherwise I mean you. Bitch stay home like that's my wife is she's pregnant. You would think that would be enough. For the for the birth about traveling out of state I. Don't know if she's doing all that. But. I mean things are complicated when you date somebody who or marry somebody who has all that sort of criminal backgrounds so Yes. He just got. Permission from the judge. Go ahead. Okay. Yeah. 'cause I honestly thought it would have been fucked up, there would have been like. Your. Own Child. Be. Right. Yeah. Let me fucked up. He's apparently and allowed to be right there in the delivery room, which is Super Lake. I. Guess supposed to be admirable of you man to be right there No, it's the leash condemn. I. AM So? Glad. I don't have to worry about any of this 'cause. I would not want to be anywhere inside of that room when that is happening to you, I'm so sorry. Yeah. I've been there when two friends gave birth in. It is every the. As I've been in the room with two, and then one of them are saw it on video her husband filmed all thing. And yeah, it is just as bloody and traumatic as you think it is A. On not interested. It's a loud on never forget high school when they put that fucking in Childbirth video was in sex ed or health one of them. fucking. I don't remember why we watch that. Godforsaken. Payment, made us wash it and I remember thinking this has to be leaked. I feel like we shouldn't have to watch this. They wanted you to know. Absolute, right. The least that you could do after I, carry this all my the fuck around and be eaten fucking pickles and batteries for nine months or whatever. Weird Shit at least. You could do a stand here and watch my pussy, never be the same are watch them slice my stomach opener would yank it out of my throat. Please like. At. least you do stand here in fucking watch. Bare, minimum. You could do just tell me we. We'll give me some ice chips and set up. Well. Happy pregnancy and happy healthy Labor's always. Always. I can't wait for all the absolute ignorant s Queens ways that we are going to be introduced to this baby like you know they gave Offset and Cardi drama a couple weeks ago, forgiving culture, a Birkin bag for her third birthday or something like that. You know going to have this baby draped in every label and stuff. So. Mad At that right to be mad at this to. Me Like. What the fuck is wrong with buying a three year, old a bargain if you can afford it like hookah that bait like. People are I guess thinking what the Fuck is? Baby need with a handbag at all or whatever? It's like. Nothing, but I can. Buy It for her, and she probably already associates pocketbooks with things like snacks, the I. Milk. So I just didn't see why that's such a big deal. But yes, I can't wait to see her like put diamonds on this babies like plays, Blazel bridge or whatever. The first shot is going to be introduced to the world in a bark in Mike. He'll be inside inside back in bag. I would not be surprised or she just like rented elephant and do like. Some big grand. You know. Some. Massive celebration. that she brought this life into the world which you know, I can't blame nobody for celebrate neighbor. So. Do what you need to do. Good luck with that pregnancy girl considering I was like soups wealthy. I would do the same dumb, ass. Foolish like I absolutely would be going overboard. and. Behind if I had the money to blow like that one. What you can't take you. For your first baby. I'm doing the most Yup get ready. Because like even my parents were, they had no problem admitting like what's it got down to three? We relied bitch, take this down. After a while it was like, okay, girl. Celebrated all of the kid having things and enjoy that now you just here. Because I have to take care of it in line with the rest of. Right. what else has been going on Mar Braxton. released. A statement, the other day after she was found unconscious and unresponsive. By her boyfriend now fiance. What's his name? Did. David. Yes, she was down unconscious in their hotel room Russia to hospital She reportedly was may be considering suicide or something like that. She got like rallied by her family Tony in, and what's the mom An- again Evelyn, and Evelyn, and the rest of the gang were all pictured up with her and stuff. So it seems like she's doing better at least healthwise a physically and stuff right now and also seems to be doing better emotionally She posted a picture with With her son. Logan. ACA. A little. Because yeah boys voilate like his. and yeah, she posted with a lengthy statement about everything that went on and It's actually really really. Well written an emotional and she also kind of. Vaguely went over. You know the facts that she's having issues with the we TV. The home of the Braxton family values show and also what is I think her shows was to be called. Get Your Life. Of course, it is Samar's like own spinoff show. Yeah. Maher's been upset with the dolls. She you know said over the past eleven years, there were promises made to protect betray my story with the authenticity and honesty. I gave I was betrayed taken advantage of overworked and underpaid. I wrote a letter over two months ago, asking to be freed from what I believed was excessive and unfair I explained in personal detail. The demise I was experienced experiencing cry for help went totally ignored and loads loads more. So she's not happy with we TV's portrayal of her honestly I felt like you. Should have been fed up a while ago like we we TV's. Family. Law. So. It seems like she's better now is there was A. Story to came out that said we TV sever ties with her to which she responded on twitter lies. which may be Kinda thing I. maybe she had help with writing the instagram caption because it was like so beautiful and moving to me anyway. And this part said lies notice a lawyer. Says a flower car texted me or Nan. Nan. Black. Say Okay Mask. She don't give a fuck. Like they're trying really fucking trifling. This woman has made how much many for your networking you. NIGGA. Couldn't even send a flower Goddamn like a like nothing you. Dot a edible race, mental hospital card, nothing like Bass raggedy and they're talking about you're splitting your. Separating ties with our whatever the fuck, but the show. This clearly. It Wa-, Y'all to have our air is still being planned to air on the net and they played an extended trailer. Did you see it? You know I was watching love after lock because of course I was. And they promoted to this new show. Same listen. I love after lockup is not a thing I should watch. But I and I know that Kampala is, but I feel like everyone was that show probably says this they showed like an extended like a, I look type of thing with this time Marshall and it was basically just her meeting with Mona and it kind of felt to me like Mona covering heart is in a way. Yeah, I. think that was I. think it was Mona Scott in this In that extended trailer, but I just felt really sad for her like you. You really don't want this to come out. You feel like you've been exploited by this network and yet here they are probably capitalizing like Doug. Deliberately on the fact that you've had this mental health breakdown and Aaron the shit anyway, and like teas in the rest of us who just came here to watch niggers who met on fucking. What's at try to get married three weeks after they get out of jail like we came here for that, and then here you come trying to make money off the situation. I just thought it was disgusting. Really, fucking awful and I hope they reconsider. But they probably won't you have a probably while it wouldn't be shocking to me if they wanted the machines Yeah. A lot of these, fucking. These fucking white people in these executive seats and stuff are just you know cycling through the same shit that was taught them or whatever, and like. Of course, you'll be given invitation into the room for a lot of these places because why people have no problem at least acknowledging within their selves and their own groups that we have value when it comes to damn near every mother fucking thing. But Oh, girl ownership integrity lake, respect. I promise. None of those things we're supposed to pay you. Now, we do that. I. Don't know what else you want. Card. Well wishes. Now, you've gone too far tomorrow and I'm sure they pay her at that and for the number of years that team has been doing. Content for this network is just. I pray the after this show is done that she is released from her contract. She doesn't have to do anything else with them and she rather they move forward in peace. And? Also, she has a show on vh one right now, Elliott the Owen. Yeah I wonder if there's Any fuck re going on with them being tired of her for having thing on a whole different at work or something, I wouldn't to past anybody. But that's just me. He'll probably not because one is like a reality show in the other one is like a judge show, right? It's like a hair rescue thing or. Something about like? Yeah. You go to Titian I. Guess. I've never watched it. Have only been told that it's like. People who go to the show and say that they had a bad situation, a beauty shop or something like that, and then they go and make them do the Herald, where like on. I think Guy Gordon Ramsay had a restaurant show like this. Where he goes in and saves a bar. Restaurant. That's about to yeah. Yeah. Something like that. I think meany also is allegedly about the Su-. Bronco Racism because she's. Tired. She's tired of the narrative they're. Putting down on the doll, she said, they offered her a hundred thousand dollars for development, the of her own show, but they were offered her a million to do a different show with Kim and I was like they'll see. Your gross. was like how the fuck did you? Like you got a million for ni-ni for whatever that spinoff would have been, but you only? One. Hundred thousand as long as nei-neither like Niimi synonymous. I don't even like her and I just don't. Like that's disrespectful. It's really saying we do not want you to have no damn development deal. We really want you to come get this fucking camera and yell at Kim's Yeah Caribbean a dumb ass, racist, bitch. We just want you to do all the Menia `SMS that Yuccas Fat, and we also want to accept these peanuts and the girls will do that Shit, they will do it. Much, like Mar has made tomorrow in the rest of the women have made their network tons of money I'm sure 'cause besides you just say love love after locker I. Honestly don't know what the fuck comes TV. So this about it. I know that Nina has done the same for Bravo. So it's kind of like, where do you even get off with some of these deals but? Whatever yeah. Another thing we did not disguise was this whole Meghan stallion, Tory Lanez? Christ. Jesus this was so crazy. So a couple of weeks ago, apparently. Meghan, the stallion and torey lanes were at a pool party at Highly Generous House Exhibit A.. And B. and C. honestly if you`re Myself. Personally. Four reasons that we are not entirely sure of yet. Meghan suffered a multiple gunshot wounds in her. Legs Slash Pete. Tori lanes who had her is a guest in his vehicle allegedly. was arrested for possession like a concealed weapon or something to that. degree. Since then there have been. Clips said. Gossip. And means and all kinds of bullshit, but it seems. Likely, that tore you lanes. In fact, shot, Meghan the stallion with intense arm anchor for God only knows what reason so far I don't know what is really going on at the bottom of this story. But what I do know is that the girls and I would like Day Star deported back to Niagara, falls or wherever the fuck from the Great White Martha She's frying. We don't want her and that's pretty much that. I. Don't know when. This is going to move to the next stage that you so that we can have a better understanding of what has gone on. But as I said, all signs are pointing to Day Star Peterson. Is that his name. I think. So yeah. Okay. And Girls WanNA know why? After they finish weapon has asked. Many of you have been just vile absolutely disgusting the laser discussions about this particular story, I'm confused about it. I'm confused by it. I don't understand how so many all in one breath can be. Allegedly all four freedom and progression and preservation and things like that for. Black. People the black community and things like that and then. Literally, make the bullshit, bitch, made as excuses in comments that y'all have made in regards to to Meghan being shot by whoever the fuck shot her foyt with the fuck ass reason. It is I'm blown away by the the amount of people who? Had No issue joking about this? Yes. Like did you does she need to die? Should she have died for y'all to have like taking it seriously taking this seriously and been even a tiny bit respect for I. Don't get it. No me either I know, I think fifty cent said something. I don't know what he said because I make it a point to actively avoid everything that man does cirm. But I saw a clip of drean making a joke about it. Saying that she wants to Kinda Nigga, whom will shoot her feet like is that what she said, my Nigga, listen. She was like Bobby and Whitney, Kinda love Nigga first of all what. First of all body witty did not have an ideal relationship, and if you that was like something to aspire to the new dumber, they're not you was and secondly bitch to say that you want a nigger who is so crazy about you that he will shoot. You is just the dumbest fucking thing like girl. Do. You know that domestic violence is a real problem that really affects a lot of fucking people. A lot of black women die every day because it. Is Not just don't even know how thought that. It was funny. I don't know what the fuck was going through her mind. I saw that she said something about it that was getting her into hot water, and he could have called me the one like neo because I was dodging that shit like it was. I don't care about anything. That dra- ever has to say, and I likely will never care about anything that role has to say if she got dragged for it good. She everybody should be I would love for you all to have that same energy when power book to Thessalonian Ghost, whatever the fuck that shit is about to come out by fifty say I'd love you ought to have the same angie s she comes out but you're not. Not GonNa because you want to get the next chapter whatever the fuck from your favorite ghetto story ain't gonNA act like if these has not been disrespectful and destructive to black women and black people altogether for a long time because decisions. Funny. So you guys will just shut up and save it at least for me right now because, yeah, no problem for jokes and that shade and all that ship to fly when it's again or even dreyer. But. Your favorite influence. All NIGGA not so much. No I just cannot abide fifty seven. I have long stopped supporting anything that man I mean? It's been probably a decade so. I, just I I. Really don't understand why we insist on having different standards for men than women and why wages. Allow. Our men to do these terrible. fucking things unchecked. I'd. I will never fucking understand why it has to be that way. Me Neither I have many theories that we don't even need to expand on because. It's show that needs dand at some point. By. As. I've said. Tori. Hit the Road Jack. And don't you ever come back? No. speaking of the girls in Canada apparently drake is is in some of of words with vodka. The watch people. What? Wait. What am I missing? Levada is a fucking dance artists, but that's Not your fault at all. Of course, he thought it was the watch people. Why wouldn't you? Know I'm. A classic fucking Dancehall. Yeah very and. I read some Chitlins Drake. Possibly through some shade on a song, he did a little while ago and then Movado came back with some sort of a district, and I'm just thinking to myself how the fuck. Has, Aubrey managed to get himself into beef with a real Jamaican musician. Like when it was pussy or whatever other American rapper, even like fine I, how how has this happened and you allegedly swung I. You do you like you let the. First then I'm telling you. Ever. Since Drake got that. fucking word up. Magazine. Cover. Tattooed. Please that that two thousand, one right on magazine covers he has been brazen. And Dacia. Okay. So I don't. I'm not a fan. I mean, I don't even know what they arguing about probably somebody in something musically or. I. Don't even know what kind of drama do you think is capacity beginning to but. I heard they had like some sort of a business deal or something that might have fallen. Yeah. I don't understand. It. Most. Of the Drake's verses these as I still like them just because I enjoy how he flows over most of the pizza issues and stuff, and he's talented. But a lot of the songs I hear from him now, I don't even know what the fuck that Nigga be saying like he shouts all his friends. I literally read like a website. I think, maybe it was the fater that was like here is a guy to all the niggers in Oviedo say or whatever. So I could understand. These people out like he's in all kinds of different codes and he's jumps through like. British slang and Swahili been to make him pats wide, whatever I just be like if it sounds good to my ears I, accept it. Okay. Don't know. Meanwhile I did not know drake put out, anything says to slide. I have not heard of drake song since the end. Yes, like a whole. Little. release. Some shit that came out being, but you didn't really miss any he's working on is almost allegedly done with whatever his next album is going to be and hopefully. Buying my friend of Donna's all of the. Stupid he's and jerk chicken that he could possibly desire because I don't care Adana still. Jamaican. Emma. He asked to be. I mean clearly. Lots of. Pressure going on over it. At Ellen's house only workhouse. Anyway. Yeah is associate. So. Couple of weeks back. It was reported that Warner media's doing investigation into the Alan Generous show after. Several. Staffers ex-staffers. Complained about. All kinds of toxic going on and their work environment from racism to bullying intimidation sexual harassment sexual misconduct. Like all of the girls everyone. And this is. allegedly. A going on from a number of top executives. At the Ellen, degeneres, show some claim that Ms Ellen knew all about. Bee Stings and did nothing to stop it. Claim that you know she had no idea that it was happening right on any of her nose. Force derochie posted an I stand by. she did. Mama. Say to our fans. We see you thank you for your support. Hashtag stop by the tax. Hashtag. Stand. WITH ELLEN DEGENERES NO I stand with John. I. Stand. With Ellen, degeneres, I stand by in and I, stand by Ellen Degeneres are all the hashtags. Momma said, I'm monopolizing all girls. Every one of the standbys bitch. We got him right here from the Horse's mouth. Oh Porsche girl. I mean, I've been hearing rumors about Ellen actually being a wretched person for heather have couple years now I feel like it's been just this very much unkept secret like Nigga. I've just been talking about, and then finally it's actually getting somewhere, but I have heard wretched stories about her that like near staff was not even allowed to speak to her, they were really supposed to avoid being in her presence, but like nobody's supposed to talk to her type, she initially like Oh my God go. There why are you pretending to be nice and dancing and shit? What is? This'll be me. Talk, show it. So give. She comes in with her shades on at nine am. She hasn't. She doesn't want any of the girls to talk talk to. You know I've definitely heard that doesn't have the greatest attitude and like honestly sometimes after years and years and years, and years and years and years of doing a certain thing. Maybe fall out of love way they had or whatever, but it doesn't give. It doesn't give you the right to treat your employees poorly dam. Sure. Doesn't give you the right to have a work environment where people are coming. In and having to experience things at they're saying they hide to or whatever. Right? Like if the work environment was perfect. But Ellen was just kind of standoffish and didn't want random people talking to her that would be one thing. Right. But it's all of this and then also working there as hell. No you got to go girl like you're not even the only one that sucks. The person I report SUSA everybody else in the opposite sexes well so Yeah, I heard her ratings have gone straight to hell and they talking about, you know, just go ahead and pulling the plug now. There's rumor that she may just not into the show at all. But of course, I also read that they're planning to come back. September ninth and that she's not planning on stopping during the damn. All right. Meanwhile, replace Ellen was a Hashtag that trended on twitter yesterday i. Read I saw that and many people were suggested from Tabitha Brown to Kelly Clarkson, some people suggested Ellen page because. Also. An out, lesbian, her name's Ellen. some people said Kiki Palmer. Nina Parker loads of names. Yes. Some people even said to cody Johnson because. Dakota Johnson called Ellen out for not telling the truth directly to her face on her show. Right not inviting her party that she didn't go to. Because she was I, think watching a cowboys game or something with George W. L. Right. I remember that story coming out but I forgot about it in tyrod this party today. So it sounds like at least pettiest folks on twitter are all okay with Ellen, getting missing. My favorite recommendation was to have tiffany Pollard takeover because that will be quality daytime television that I would be tune in the fucking for. The rumor. Is that James Corden is like on the front line in terms of. Replacing Allen Slot and I'm like, do we have to go with another Blue Eyes White, dragon like, is there I mean Mexican hostility because he's already on, she's on NBC. Right? She's already I think they're both on. Yeah. It makes me he's already on the network or. Already has a show but. You're right. Like do we really need another white person host in another major talk show in this country like? I, get it because it's like. The whole thing that I think really propelled Ellen to mega talk show stardom is this idea. The of you know be kind one, another that she has to comes out as she dances like tickle me Elmo and like people feel life. People feel like she's sort of. Safe, even as a gay person, she was the safe labour like. TV moms feel like she's not going take it overboard or they can. Stuff, some lunch ables into their kids knapsacks. Ellen comes on. Probably. Comes on. Later. Whatever maybe you know some Cairns are doing the laundry or whatever. I? Don't feel like they can watch them Ellen and she's like say, so I get that. They would probably want to get another like apple pie cookie cutter, safe white person to fill that role. Mom's not gonNA WANNA watch him in sing along type Shit. Exactly. Yeah. The people who suggest who suggested I doubt it. Well I mean. Yeah. There is that like networks are always going to be worried about ratings in white people tune in like always. So I get it. I would just personally rather see somebody else, but I wouldn't be shocked if they put James Corden in that spot or if they were just like bucket y'all GonNa Take Ellen and Y'all GonNa fucking deal with it. 'cause it's a quarantine, any damn way, and so I ain't nobody be bothered with like new set new host in new stabbed nobody doing out at like. I fully expect that it's going to be that I totally think she's GonNa come through and power through at least another one of these seasons, and then she can walk away like on her terms is. Mika worry about all that other shit later. This. She's going to be like, Oh, no, I don't WanNa do this anymore although she literally could Mama. Very, very wealthy, but she probably you know Ellen, it was not like this when she came out, I, know the kids notice but. People were not pleased when Ellen Degeneres came out on TV and ninety nine, she lost a lot after that and so she has. Probably. Had Hustle real hard to get back to a place the place where she's at now in so. I. Have Empathy for her for that. But A. Girl, this is just too much so. Like, not wanting to be not wanting to do the show anymore or even like you said, maybe being a little standoffish or snooty when you're at work is one thing but having a place. That is like a whole job that's named after you and you're sitting at the head of it and everything like that, and people are being subjected to stuff that staffers are saying they wear like. Old Effort thing I come in and you don't want to talk to me or you're mad because I didn't make your coffee, right? That's one thing. But if I'm coming in having to do with racism or sexual harassment or just plain old, you know intimidation because it's another thing motherfuckers like to do is just bully people and treat people like garbage. Fuck out right? Unreasonably unnecessarily. So nobody should have to deal with that. Exactly. All, right. Let's talk about black is sickening blackest. Oh. Yes. They can list do this. So. Finally. Beyond say dropped off her new visual. Projects. EXPERIENCED BLACK IS KING ON DISNEY PLUS ICE And it was like a basically a visualization of the gift album, which is inspired from to live action lighting movie that Disney did with. With mom and. I'm very pleased. Honestly, I didn't even get myself to hype about it 'cause at this point. I, knew that parkway was going to drop off some. I, was GONNA like. I I expected music movement. Great Cinematography Fachet, and all of the things I was literally given and the fun part about it was I haven't listened to the gift, Allah Mike. I. Purposely didn't listen to it for a while. After a the whole thing was announced and stuff. So I kind of forgot what songs with. On it Even, some of the songs that are my favorites like when Brown skinned girls started up I was like Oh, we got to see a video. Didn't say, yeah, and that's probably my favorite song on it. Yeah. It was fantastic. It was so beautiful. I'm so happy to see. Blue. Ivy. Step from. You know behind the camera. and. Not. Serving as creative directors and. Choreographers many of the other things that she does stylist and also be be fully present and many of these looks moments. The one song that I was looking forward to seeing the most like the first thing I thought of I wanNA see visual for this was my power and it was because. Every time I hear that Song I. Think this is what the door Malaj probably like pre. Like when they're all the words. And Kanda. told them girl it's time to go to the club. I will hear them playing long before they get ready to go party. And the visuals for that didn't let me down blue being front and center were her hat on good movement and confidence that bloodline that guy fell out. This little girl. She's everything that we said she is she is she has like I'm telling you. Aware Supreme. Yes. She knows this whole she. She thinks it's cute that you're catching. You know. She thinks it's adorable of you right finally recognized stand in the facts. Yeah. The whole thing was so beautiful like I really love what Parkwood would does with. Cinematography and I just love that it's a black woman who sitting at the end of his table. So we can get all of that creativity in this blackety, black s round. And I loved all of the like I really liked the. Sort of like astrological celestial tone than it started with I kind of wanted more of that I'm sure that my Momma and plenty of author supercharging people were like. I don't know about the I can hardly hear my Mama be like. If the stove. Stall on. Shankar. Here now. But yeah, I was like super pleased with it I thought they. Pretty much lived up in past everything that I expected of it and I love that it was like. Not. Just, to be unsafe thing like a kind of felt like a platter of all of these amazing African things and cultural references and stuff that she was kind of holding. A lot of other artists and stylistic riders even. Like on the front. Everything, Yeah. So super whether it was definitely a shining moment that I needed. Yeah. I did too. I really fucking needed. Black King. I. Needed it when it came out and I am. Eternally grateful for it. I thought it was gorgeous. I too was obsessed with. The my power video. I actually cried a brown skinned girl which I liked to expecting. But I do real tears fell from my face. Honestly. I loved all of them. I was just. It was. It felt like a massive collaboration because it was obviously But just like the music was, and this was the first beyond, say project where I didn't medically catch like almost every single reference that was in. This was the first time I was like. ooh Boy. This is a culture I. Don't know. This is something I'm not familiar with this over here is something I also don't know. So I've been bookmark in a lot of stuff by. African writers and artists, kind of explaining what some of the symbolism means because I wanna read up more on that. But you know this is my favorite part about her. Yeah. This is a story by this. Don't don't get it twisted. This is a story by a black American and. emphasizing to the rest of us that we are not what these colonizers have told us that we are doing, and it's very easy for us to forget that when we live in this oppressive ass place. Yeah. It's just important for us to continue to look to the stars spider way back, all that shit like it. It motivated me to actually get my shit together like I have been. Since the pandemic started in quarantine has been in place. I've really been feeling Kinda like life doesn't count. We're like it doesn't matter. Listen. Saying I just been feeling like this isn't even real life like this isn't a real. Point Yeah. Exactly. Yes. ABSO. So so blackest king after I watched, it really made me feel like you know what everything feels fucking crazy right now. But what the want. What the colonizers want is for me to feel like nothing matters and to give into just lay here and decay until like that's exactly what they want, and so what I am going to do is my own act of black resistance I'm a go. Upstairs I'm fine a clean my room and take a shower and I'm gonNA develop a nighttime and daytime routine for myself, and I am really going to start to deliberately take care of myself in a real tangible way every fucking day because I fucking deserve it, and it's just I just cannot think beyond saying Parkwood, in everybody involved enough for that because I needed that shift so bad. Same, it's like One of my favorite things about it is, how much of it? Is. Foreign to me. It's like exciting that I can do the same thing that you mentioned, which is like going try and learn. About. This from actual African people and and all of those references and. and. Acknowledging and and sort of re accepting. We are a part of something way bigger as a huge part of the reason that we have been oppressed for such a long time like we're magnificent and many many different extraordinary ways and I think that they were able to capture that and a really artistic way in a really beautiful way. I, mean everybody looked so good. It literally made me WanNa go and get like a chocolate bar or something like that. Think. Like. was. Just. So beautiful, the dancing to me was. I could literally watch them dance for hours and hours, and hours and hours. Again, I loved the already visual Choreography Matt in my power and everything that they did. I Love I, saw a tweet today that said something like A. something. Like you know we about to be stressing out art Dr Good Luck to all the hairdressers breeders of the world because we. Are With all of. Foot Braids. Bitch when when they did the zoom out and that was the way up on that. I don't ever. Right with all the. But it was just gorgeous. Yes. Kelly Rowland and Naomi Campbell in Lupita Neon, go in Blue Ivy and. Just saw. Sir Smile Carter was. We even got a little clip. Roomie is well like. It was just. I'm assuming, yeah, it just felt really good I've watched it four times since it came out because every time I, see something new. Why focus on something different or i WanNa see something that I wanNA learn more about and Yeah, I'm just thrilled beyond psych constantly sets the bar. Higher with every release like I remember a few years ago, saying next time as Bishop. Lynch. Put something out. It's going to be a movie theaters and now it's like. She. has transcended like all this shit like. Disney plus is massive girl. It is just. So. Damn big. She has homecoming on Netflix. She's already given us lemonade and self titled So you know I'm just sit back and see what they put on the wall next show 'cause I'm continuously I. Just feel like I would love for her to continue to do full visual. Yes, I love. Give Me Shit Bitch directly into my veins. I know it's not cheap. I don't know if I could just buy like Parkwood capsules and I could just take two in the morning and just be filled with all of the glee that I get from that. stunned. Yeah. Maybe that would be enough enough, but I love what they are able to do with like. Bringing visuals to a theme and how it's literally like. A retelling of. The Lion King, story again, merged with this whole other bigger meaning and representation behind it. It's just it will soul well done in such a good time and I've only seen it twice so far. The second time is where I actually started to catch references like a couple of them. And I was able to see how it sort of seemed to gather a bit better whereas the first time I think I was just mouth agape. Just, acting like a fool. Yes, I had a really great time with it I'm curious to know what? It's like being a Caucasian behind. I, imagine. It must be a lot like amy poehler in mean girls were. Like. -IRLFRIEND S. One. Why Mike Curl? Zola. AM I. Right girl. Like. These four why business are probably so Every sought out destroyed, all the white people still live in the hive. are like they. The ones who wear their all black lives matter. T shirts own a daily basis, white people been left. The have okay. Formation came and they left. So yeah, the ones who are still here they mean Shit. SNL did that fucking skill. All white people realize that he be. That legit was white. America and. You'RE YOU'RE A NEGRO And he like. And you're GONNA talk. Yeah. Yeah. Not like Terry crews somebody said Terry crews say arm. Right. is also hidden. Find that. So we have to give credits that. Made me. By. The Terry crews as have been non stop and I have been appreciate. No 'cause what the fuck is. Wrong. I really don't know like I don't know what happened. I. Don't know what the switch was, but Terry crews has been insufferable. So. Gay, jokes. I got laughs forum because it was so funny. Quinton Lamar. Sir Hugh had me crying? Vesuvius. Was So funny because the thing is i. feel like he really. Take. Him logging on and being like just. So we know black supremacy is not okay and white people are also kings and Queens and and royalty and blow. This was like. Did. You even watch. Did you even watch you wipe people have a monarchy as well? We know girl, we're all colonized bitch we. When he tweeted out that acronym for coon? This when for me, I have to just now. You just fucking. Like I wanted to just place you on the sick shut in list at one time because I figured. Maybe there's just something swirl in that. We're not understanding yet. Now I feel like there is a clear intent to antagonize yet. Just minding their business and trying to make less alone and I would like us to be left alone and please. please. Leave Gabrielle alone. She doesn't accept her apology. St Doesn't Sir Policy and she doesn't have to so please. Keep it moving. That's IT for hot tops. Week when you take a break and then we're going to read your letters. Tonight's episodes being brought to you by skill share and. 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Thank you to everyone who like this past week we did not get anything, but well wishes from people. So thank you. Awesome. Yeah. Very much for that. That was very sweet but very older shit in here. So let's go. First. Thanks I Dorian wants to know if Kyrie has seen the mister robot finale. I'm like a season and a half behind on Mister Robot, and I'm mad at even said it out loud now because I know these fucking devices let listening and. On home pay. Out Ever. But no, I have not finished. This robot is one of my favorite. Shows from the last couple of years or whatever, and so I need to actually jump back into that while I am. In the midst of light trying to binge three shows, ninety to finish or whatever. Because that's kind of what I've tried to be on, and then I jumped into doing Shit Lake. benching the parkers for whatever reason are watching all of the MC movies back to back for whatever reason, and then black is king comes out, and then I forgot what it was, I was trying to watch in the first place so. I'll try to watch it soon, but I love that show. Yeah. I've heard good things about it. I should add it to my list of things to get into. How right we have a question here from Adrian. Who says, my girlfriend is going to be moving across the country in the next several weeks for a new job opportunity where she will be making a lot more money, I, know, this will be good for her and I wanted to try to find a job out there too. So that I'm able to go with her, but the issue is that she doesn't want me to. Her reasoning is that she doesn't want to share space since it'll be a one bedroom apartment, and if we needed space or time away from each other, we would have nowhere to go since we don't know anyone in this new city. That's news to me because we've been talking lately about buying a house. But now she's saying that she was just excited at the idea at the time, but was never actually ready to live with me. She claims that she still wants to be in a relationship, but I'm worried she might just be saying that because she doesn't want to hurt my feelings. I've been a mess and she told me that she doesn't want me to move with her and I've never been a person who wanted a long distance relationship. But I guess I will attempt to with her since I have no choice unless I wanNA break up. I'm not normally and emotional prime minister. And that. Normally an emotional person and I don't usually cry. But I've been crying a lot lately with all the stuff going on and emotionally speaking, this is the straw that broke the camel's back. To normal in a relationship for a partner to WANNA, leave the state and not want their significant other to go with them. I'm having a hard time thinking that somebody wants to be in a serious relationship, but not be around their partner. She keeps saying that she doesn't want me to take this personally or in a bad way. But I don't know how else to take it. Please help Adrian. Adrian I don't know how to take it either. Damn. Because honestly. Why wouldn't you want them to move? If, you're. GonNa move to unless you like. Don't feel like Unless, you just feel like it's not clear yet. and. You don't want for your partner to make. Such a big and serious decision before you I. Both feel like you're in that type of place but. I mean, honestly, you got two options in front of you. One is to go through the stress. Of Quarantine and Rona, and all of that shit in a long distance relationship already acknowledging that long distance relationships are hard as is. Or. You go through quarantine unstop as a newly single person. ear way, it's going to be kind of. Difficult. But I don't know I. think that if you feel like you're in a place where are in relation if you feel like you've gotten to a place in relationship where you both should have an understanding of how you feel about one another and that it should be like a no brainer that if one was moving, the other one says boop I'm coming. You. Feel like you're there and something just off. Then I would probably be like, okay. Well, girl, I don't WanNa. Do a long distance relationship. So I guess this is the end. But if it's just something where maybe you could grow a bit more and that's how she feels. Then I could understand her saying like I don't want you to take this personally, and this is something I have to do for myself et Cetera et CETERA. So I think you've got to have to really assess the situation and be super tough honest with yourself about it that way you can. Can make a decision and honestly for yourself. Even if she's like I want to get to a place where we both live here are together somewhere else, but I'm not there now even if for yourself, you just know that the relationship is going to sink as a result of the long distance thing that maybe the best that you break up now and you know start your journey of healing. Yeah. That's real. I. Mean. I. I feel like I would be the person saying, yeah. Have this new job and I wanNA stay in a relationship, but you can come with me because it's only one room in this house. And I don't want you to get on my fucking nurse. So it could be that your girlfriend really does mean that, but to me it, I just have. It just feels more to me like she's probably just trying to break up knowing that. Don't want a long distance relationship anyway, because girl, it is a fucking pandemic outside. If. You don't want to live with your partner. I don't like. I don't even know what else to say that because we are in a situation now where so many people are jobless and facing homelessness in all kinds of terrible things going on and you over here like, yeah. Well, I mean I, I get all that, but if you can't afford your own place, then it's not gonna, work out which you coming over here with me. So I, just kind of feel like. Your girlfriend has gotten to the end of this relationship. Is She trying to let you down easy or let the relationship come to a natural end by moving away, but you don't have to take that as meaning that there is something wrong with you. That's her shit. Yeah, I. DIDN'T I didn't get that at all for this. is either just like you just said, she wants to break up and she doesn't want to communicate that explicitly. Or she is okay with being a long distance relationship in wants you to be too I. Think you're right. Yeah I just don't think you should. You should take this personally because somebody not wanting. To be in a relationship and it's not like you've done something wrong. He's new. You didn't cheat on her or whatever. It's just. She doesn't want to be here. Anymore. That could be for any number of reasons that you might not know anything about. So if I were you, I would maybe give it a shot just to see if the long distance thing could work I, thrive I mean long distance relationships suck. Don't get me wrong, but I am very good by myself so. I probably take it, but with everything being so up in the air about the future and not being able to visit each other regularly that we're really sucked. So I would try it. But if it doesn't work out, then you know just let it in take care of yourself. breakups are the fucking worst and sometimes it can really feel like you will never have your heart back together again, but you will. You will. You will. You will get a worst part of it is 'cause that moment ago if it just feels. So permanent does how am I ever going to get over this? Yeah. This Lee, you wake up one day and you're like, I, don't even fuck. Right or you go all day without thinking about sending you like. What's GonNa does get better. BREAKUPS are bad. But you can get through it if that's what needs to happen here. Good Luck to you Adrian, our next question comes from. I'm going to call him. Brian, he says. Hey guys, twenty two years old and my girlfriend, and I moved in together five months ago and Bro I'm about to fucking lose it. My girlfriend's family is always hear her mom calls almost every day eskin if she can come over to cook at our house. So we can all eat dinner together as a family and my girlfriend says, yes, every single time, it's not just her mom, her dad brother, sister, Anna, sisters, kids all come together and we don't have a lot of space. So I end up sitting on the floor in my apartment, I would prefer to be social distancing. These are capitalizations in our room playing to K. or some shit. So I don't have to be near them, but my girlfriend thinks I'm being rude if I do that. So I'm not allowed. please. Tell me. How does that sound me as a twenty, two year old not allowed to do something. But if you thought it couldn't get any worse. Her sister literally s US every weekend. If her three kids can stay with us because she has to work and my girlfriend said, yes, every weekend for five months. Besides one weekend because I was so fed up I, had to pretend like I wasn't feeling good because when her kids are here, I have to be a prisoner all weekend in my own home. I have to be stuck in our room because the kids stay in the living room because you guests that we live in a one bedroom apartment and I know, Damn. Well, her sister does not work every weekend. So my question is if I should break with her, my question is, when should I break up with her our lease ends and seven months I know if I leave her, she wouldn't be able to afford the rent on her own. So I would feel bad about that and about the four years I wasted with her but GODDAMN BRIVE TIRED IF I If I knew things would be like, this could have just moved on my stuff into her parents house to begin with. Thanks for the advice Brian. Going on there. Well I definitely think. Everything I feel like I'm about to say like, Oh, no, he just said win. It's not your sided. Ending. Right because I keep thinking, what you could do is talk to the. Man I. think that it's definitely kind of you and fair of you to say, Hey, girl. I'll I'll stay here for however long until the lease is up or until you can afford it because I would feel bad to leave you in a position like this. I also feel like that's Not, necessarily your responsibility. CH-. If you have been adding to like. For yourself into your room. Hide somewhere or whatever. Because it's bubble guppies all day long. Your cereal is gone. Nobody. To have to live through any wretched, the quarantine on top of all of that. So personally I feel like if you're really determined to get out, you could go ahead and communicate that and come up with a time. That, you are going a time between then and whatever it is that you're going to leave so that she can come up with some sort of a plan to Make rent or whatever something? That's pair. And I just feel like that's probably the kindest way to make your exit unless you do want to stay, she said seven more months. Yeah. That's a long time. and. As it's been every weekend than kids have been there can't do and every day the family is there like bitch, we supposed to be at home by ourselves. Right? What you mean these things come over your every day. I know our house is not the only place. They go I, know I know that. So God, only knows what you bring it over here in my space, and then she got an attitude if you don't want to just stay in your room away from everybody. This is too much so. Yeah, I would be honestly, it sounds like you haven't told tired that you're at the end of your rope with this like you are considering leaving her. So I would do that and see if maybe it gets her to understand that you are not just joking about not wanting to confront around other people that you really do need some space, give her a chance to. Try to make some compromises something that everybody can be happy with but. You know if she's unwilling to do that, then that would be like a. so then you know maybe your sister in the kids can move in and I can just like. Let me give you. Four to eight weeks to find a roommate to come up in this bitch and good luck. You said, you don't want to leave her to pay them right by herself, which leads me to believe the apartment is her name and not in yours. So you can just get up and leave, but it would be very fucked up of you to do something like that. But. You just hit the nail on the head like you're basically the pair to your children. So why don't you just pay? All and just you know I'm GonNa get out the way. So y'all had house like images. Own Somewhere. Maybe back to my own parents or A. Relative right. You know I'm getting out of y'all sway. Really her if you look at it like that something because I mean it's a pandemic and you should be. Mindful of that, but you also don't have to suffer. Just, before the next seven months without end, because everything is trash home like home should be. A place where you feel safeness and some refuge from all the shit going on outside of what the factors be thinking that live with other people. I. The selfishness is just crazy to make. A will be given a fuck about the people in your house. Like. I would be ready to lose. My Mind? What one person and every fucking day. Their whole ass family is here, right. WHAT'S MOMMA? Daddy brother sister three kids. No. No I'm sorry that seven is in my house every day plus the two of us is nine nine people in a one bedroom apartment. When he used to have that conversation with a girlfriend and you should start the conversation by saying well. I. Spent the day looking at places. I've come to the understanding. Their main can continue because I think if she does, she doesn't know that he's at the end of his rope at this point, and you can see if maybe that will kick some sense into high gear but. Again. Just judging by the words that he chose him. Yeah. He's the fucking sound like He. Did he said it. But I'm a big. I'm a big proponent of giving people a chance to make things, right? Absolutely. Yeah. I mean, and you're going to have to say something anyway when you packing your shit and. Leave please don't go girl please don't just up you're. Gone from the. House. And never never go back. Please don't do that. Have A conversation, this young lady and. I. Wish you the best, but you're not being unreasonable at all here. Not at all. No. Okay. Last question comes from Jordan. Who says last year I published a book in this year I published another one nothing major. It wasn't with a large publisher anything, but through my workplace that occasionally publishes books. With that in the workload that comes with it and with twenty twenty as a whole last mess on top of my depression, I feel completely and utterly drained. I'm barely able to cook for myself most days in I've been doing more drugs in the past two weeks than I have ever done in my life. Now I have taken some space from everyone I, know to recoup in rest, but I don't even really know where to start i. did try to see a therapist, but this woman was kind of therapy says shit like I can't help you if you don't stop doing insert whatever self destructive behavior as if the entire reason I came to her wasn't too fine help on how to quit that Shit. I was wondering if the two of you had any tips on how to rebuild yourself after completely falling apart in a way that doesn't involve doing drugs and getting wasted every every night. It's twenty four too late to rethink a career that has been quote. Unquote successful constantly drains me love the show. Hope you guys are doing. Well, thanks Jordan. Turn said, is twenty four to lay. Yeah. These kids have a really fucked up sense of what's going on instagram as ruined Joe Delete accounts. INSTAGRAM is lying to you niggers every fucking day. Twenty four is not too old to do a damn thing. But back to high school, and even then you can get a ged. Like. It's not too old to do shit. Like I just hey that you could be at that Asian. Even feel like I'm twenty, four institute a for anything when I was twenty four, all of my friends were also like a fucking mess and I just did not feel this pressure that like somehow I was not doing well enough for myself compared to other people my age. I definitely think that I felt like a pressure to have my shit together. So I could get where I was trying to go. And I don't think it was until my late twenties, twenty eight may be. Like. Oh, I'm supposed to fall flat on my face back to back to back to back of back so that I can figure out how not to fall flat on my face as an adult I T-, your twenties is. Is just a moment where you're figuring shit out. It's totally okay for you to hit twenty, five, twenty, six, twenty, seven, be like this actually doesn't serve me I've been doing are what I thought was for me and I make all kinds of shifts in your life. It's fine. It's fine at thirty. It's fine at forty is fifty s find out whatever the fuck it is you still backing. Like literally. Literally, every gear at least we see a story of some person, usually an African American woman who has like who just got their degree at like one, hundred and nine. Nine. Somebody's. Being absolutely. I just want to learn psychology charter. School go. So. It's never, but you never past a point where you can accomplish anything by definitely relate with idea of being in that age range and kind of feeling like Oh God I've missed. Whatever opportunity is in this weird. Frame in your life, where people sort of place. This idea that you have to be the ideal adults and have major mistakes already by the time you're like twenty two or something like you're on your, I guess A. Junior in college like I don't know what it is. But Sweetie look at these fucking sixty, an seventy year olds that are running this country. They know a mother fucking thing about it girl. Not. Even all most these bitches are so dumb and they are much older than twenty, four year. Old, ass. You've had all the time in the world to figure out whatever fuck it is that God needs you to figure out Yeah, I think you just. I mean, you're coping with drugs and alcohol because that's what most of us cope with their right there, and there are a lot easier than sitting with fucking terrible feelings because that's the you want a way to like. To rebuild yourself or to cope with this stuff without getting wasted every night, but that way is much harder than getting wasted. I. Just want you to know that the whole and it's good advice. It works. The people are like you know, sit with your feelings when you're sad or frustrated or depressed or whatever, and just say, Hey, depression I, see you bitch and. I am just going to, i. see that you are here existing with me and you know fuck you sir. But I am not going to try to drink you away because that doesn't work like all this shit is good meditating there. Lots of free APPs especially these days. Meditating really fucking works journaling works. That should is really good for you. Finding a different therapist may be the first therapist. She sounds like a flop, but that doesn't mean another one won't Oh. Yes. You're I, even second or third experience with a therapist. It's like you're if you feel like I'm not getting what I would like to get from that person. It doesn't mean that there's something wrong with you, and because that person is a therapist or a doctor or whatever. You know they are perfect and. Right right. We've talked on this show before about people who have therapist and even our experiences with therapist that we changed and stuff. So yeah, that's definitely a not a good piece of advice. I. Definitely suggest meditation as well. I've tried yoga. You know it might sound real like a soccer mom vary I feel very much like I should have on of Lower Victoria's secret pink yet outfit when I get ready to roll my mind out But the first time I tried yoga by myself in the House I was like I was crying afterwards and I still know why? Relationship? Yes. Got It all about of the air. So that was helpful. I love coloring. Is. Really. Like a nice way to sort of focus my brain on a task and There's just something about coloring. That is relaxing to me and I've looked up like Videos on Youtube. From people discussing cell proteins. How to build a routine because that's. A huge struggle of mine of like not only getting up at a certain time mitigating the time and doing things that aren't immediately getting fucked up. Yes. Shit that wastes time. Right. Yeah, it's like, Christmas. Getting fucked up drinking or again high or doing, whatever is the easy thing to do, and that's why so many people do it. And It's not that you can't enjoy a little bit of alcohol or low. We'd or whatever. You know when you want to or when you're stressed out, but you literally have to like decide to do things differently than actually back. And I, think that it takes a while of dragging yourself in a routine and the behavior before it becomes second nature and you just pop up and you're like, all right time to meditate right is there's very few people who can be like Oh. Here's a list of good way to take care of myself, and then the next day just do all that shit, and then every day afterwards continue to do all this shit like you have to build up the consistency with that sort of thing, and you have to be patient with yourself while you do it like I have been knowing all the things that we said for the past two years. And yet, it was plenty of times where you girls still got very fucking high or very fucking drunk because I did not want to deal with the feelings like it's the process. and. All you really need to do is take as good care of yourself as you possibly can. Until you get to that place where a second nature for you. So I would say every day do your best to avoid the things that you know. Are Not good for you and really try to to sit with your emotions into do some healthier processing and if or when you fuck up and you know get drunk or do more drugs than. Become. Yeah, because you're fucking human and this is an absolute shit show. So. You know a good portion of like my talks, my sessions with my psychiatrist are her talking off of an illogical balcony I placed my. Where like put myself through all of this bullshit, and then just shade on myself like I'm just like being so awful and unfair to myself even on. No doesn't come from a logical reasonable place and it's just her talking me through it like. Okay. So does that make sense to you? You really feel like this and this, and that is logical. Okay. Come back inside like. Is like. Shh You just blowing yourself up and feeling like there's something wrong with you. That is. Like, not just a basic human thing that many people are dealing with or not something that is fixable. Something that can be adjusted or whatever I totally guilty of being like girl, you're broken and bullshit and don't nobody wants you girl and like why did you think that this was a great things like any kind of you know the inner saboteur share. So like. It's totally right. It's if you get up tomorrow and you're like Amhadu some some Youtube Yoga, you do share and you feel great about yourself. But then Wednesday comes you get A you have. You know what? I'm saying, a Mimosa way. Welsh's then. That like give yourself a break. Don't beat yourself up and bull yourself because that absolutely helps along with light Chris. Say the acknowledgement of you know coming into the room and seeing your depression sitting there and being like, Hey, bitch you again. All right. Yeah. You know I. Know How this goes under the depression to pass the remote like I. don't care you know just. I mean. So back in my fucking house, really going to a dish this time something gave us little loud, Nunca just nothing. Okay. Well. Lease. Go get my fucking GRUB. Up You could at least go meet the man downstairs. You could do that. Yeah, it's. It's hard. But good luck to you as you try to figure it out because it is a buck and process in please your twenty four years old you are. Not a baby, you are very, very young and you have a long life. Ahead of you of learning and growing and fixing mistakes and being a better person than you are not even remotely behind not an all please, not even remotely. All right take care of yourself that wraps up the questions this week. Send Yours to ask the REGGIE DOT COM. I'm going GonNa, take a break and be right back. So listen if you've been waiting months and months to figure out what the future is going to look like stressed out by all of the corentin madness and whatever the new normal is supposed to be. We've got all kinds of evidence stressors pretending to work school relationships. It's a lot of stuff to balance. 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We're back now and it is time for the really the Hoodie who? Do you want me to go I. Okay, well, So. There's honestly so many people to cuss out this week. I've been thinking a lot about Representative John Lewis. Recipes. And the way Mitch McConnell was like, oh. John Lewis this pioneer blah. But is also like actively right now trying to do the work that John Lewis did. You know try not to think too much about that type of shit because cognitive is incredible but Ben. Carson. Passed away after going to trump's covid, rally in Tulsa. Ben Carson, died. Your Carson died Oh. Yes. At. A month after going to Tulsa rally. was all up at the rally with no mascarpone bragging about it. Talking about people are sick of the fake news and the covert hoax and all that shit and a month later that negative grand carson are harming Haein. Oh, my fucking bad I. got my coons mixed up. With you, I was like in my brain. Tusla back and forth with joy celebrate Duwe. Glad you looked at up and caught me before I. Sat here and cost I mean putting Carson as well. Herman, Cain is the coon who died after going to Tulsa and being an absolute mess there. Herman Cain who had already survived cancer and was like in his seventies I. Think. So just multiple reasons why he should have been at at home with them. Yeah. So. Many reasons but. Herman Cain died of the virus end I chose to not be the bigger person about it because I'm honestly fucking tired of that. Shit. I'm tired of people who have been acting like the virus is a hoax or something that the Democrats came up with to influence the election or whatever dumb shit y'all have put out into the world I'm. Tired. Tired. Of y'all being given all this grace that you don't give other people I'm tired of y'all putting the rest of us at risk, and then when you die of your own stupidity, we supposed to sit back and be nice about it. Kiss. My ass arming K I. Don't know that you had to come in, but if anybody did was you so. That being said I. WanNa cuss out a white man who did something very similar. His name is Tony Green. He lives in. Dallas Texas area, he is a gay conservative. Which? Is actually not that. Uncommon sound. Sat to say. Because, a lot of these why gaze just wanted marriage equality and. Nothing else so. So. He voted for Donald Trump in two thousand sixteen he was, and he was deep in the conspiracy theory mess about Kovin. He knew up and down I mean just swore he called it a scam dimic and he said that the mainstream media was using the virus to create all this panic and to try to crash the economy as opposed to you know just thousands upon thousands of people worldwide getting sick. These people choose to believe that. Countries across the globe are coming together to scam Donald Trump and us. So anyway because he believed that the pandemic was not real and Democrats would just overreacting he had a party. On Saturday June thirteenth. He woke up sick the very next day on our car on. All things told I, think he's had thirteen or fourteen family members in the hospital because of this party his. His father in law's mother died. His father in law has been put on a ventilator. and yeah, like the these people after this party decided to go visit the a newborn baby who had been born, and so they pass covert right onto the parents of that child. Miraculously, this baby doesn't have it. You know that was no that was got saying you're innocent and August. You didn't have nothing to do with these dumb, ass. Mother fuckers you were born into, but now he's written. Tony Green has written this essay for the Dallas, voice, about how he just feel so bad and you just can never understand the guilt that he feels because he hosted a gathering that has affected all these people in so much suffering in. You know maybe you guys should take this seriously, and everything is super real and contagious now and all this, and I'm just like. But there was no reason for you to not think that it was super real and super fucking contagious. No reason. To believe Donald Trump who has lied about three thousand documented times every year that he's been in office. There was no reason for you to believe that motherfucker over all of the scientists, all of the information, all of the numbers from countries that don't have was single fucking thing to do with this one and don't have any vested interest in American politics in honestly wish we would just vanish off the puck and planet. So everybody could be happier. There was no reason for you to ever doubt that Shit. It was like a mountain of facts and real information right in front of you, and you were just like no y'all just hate trump and y'all just don't want trump to get reelected. You spit in the face of sound logic. Good reasoning, and if you wrote this, they can that. To turn around and and have a softened heart for you and for your dumb ass family members who decided that it wasn't a big deal I. simply don't you know why Bitch 'cause the rest of us have been risking our mental health in serious ways. Four months. Quarantining as much as possible, staying to ourselves as much as possible, only leaving for essential items or to see a friend for a socially distant visit in the backyard with mass on like have been doing most to try to curb this shit and not just to keep themselves from getting sick. But to keep other people from getting sick. The whole thing about this virus is that if everybody would wear a God damn, mask. It would be over a lot faster y'all are fed up and sick of this shit. But you also don't want to do the things that it takes to get rid of the Ho-. So like is. Mike. What do you really want? What do you really won't? Yeah. Now, you got plenty of time with your father in law on a ventilator with you sick husbands sick and all the other dumb as who came through your, how sick your? Grandmother, in law I, don't even know what you call that that bitch is dead now because she brought her to the party to just. I don't have it for Y'all I. Don't why Y'all are out here, pretending that is a scam people who don't have an option who have to go outside and work because if they don't take, they asses over to whole foods or Walmart or Popeye's then they don't have any fucking money to feed their kids or keep a roof over their heads as much as they fucking can. Can and then y'all go to these fucking establishments without a mask on and yelling and screaming, and they face mad because they trying to keep themselves from fucking dying. That's the Shit y'all are doing y'all are making it worse, and now you want me to feel bad for you know tell you dumb, ass friends and family to sit the fuck down and stay the fuck home. It is not the whole world versus Donald Trump in Fox. News. then. That'll even make no goddamn since. There's a reason why you get news on. Fox that you don't get nowhere else because there's a pack of fucking lies and I'm not impressed with American media overall. But girl that Shit. Sure. It's like a conservative version of media take out. So why would you listen to why? Why would you? Why would you put any faith in this? Why would you put faith than people who have done nothing, but laugh from the very beginning, 'cause you WANNA lower taxes. 'CAUSE YOU HATE Mexicans. I. Hope it was wipe your family's Health I. Hope It was worth it because you're not getting no sympathy for me. You better find some other bitch somebody way more saved. Who has a whole lot of forgiveness in my heart 'cause I'm tap the fuck out. Everything is turned the fuck upside down. We had outright cancel our tour after pushing it back. Just common, I mean. Yeah. Because y'all was not gonNA, put Mass on Y'all. y'All was not gonNA. Let this shit clear up and I mean, that's just us that so many people have had so many events canceled or postponed or couldn't be there for the birth of a grandchild missed a nieces birthday. All Kinda Shit has gone down. I. Don't have it for you. I have for the rest of us, the people who are staying home and the people who have no choice, but to go out. The rest of you bitches this suck my Dick. That's pretty much right. Yeah, I'm done. Well on that note I will start by addressing. which one apiece Charleston I start with oh Lord. I will just start with this story out of Miami. A young man named. Jonathan Guard shrill was arrested. Last month. After protesting at torture friendship in downtown Miami, he was doing you know part of a black lives matter protests, apparently a caravan for Cubans for trump. Was Coming Down Bisque Boulevard. Johnny and a couple of other protesters were in the street. It's clear. These black people are protesting in the street. You know what they're protesting Florida. Honestly they have been asking for you know. The end they could have been like, Hey, we're trying to get jerseys or anything, and they probably would have just assumed that they were blm and been passed because Negroes and signs. On. So they saw Jonathan in the street and proceeded to continue driving full speed anyway until they actually hit now and. He, there's a video of basic actually see it happening as the car is about to run him down. He literally jumped so like he would hit the hood rather than be you know Sloan over basically. and my wallace is doing like, wow, this is happening with that Van and its Cuban flag waving on the side. There's another car literally right next to him where the driver is waving a gun out the window. What? So. After this Johnny decided to go and pull the flags off of some of these Cubans for trump cars which got him arrested, and then he was de arrested, I, guess that day. They were I mean in that same because what the? Fuck? He. There was supposed to be like another protest. Think. Maybe two days later or something like that and police saw him there again, arrested him. and he's now apparently facing. Two felony charges and two misdemeanors robbery for the flags which does make sense. Legislatively by definition and then. I guess escape resisting an officer what? Obstructing public, street, criminal mischief, some other stuff. So in short, this young man was practicing his literal actual right to protest bullshit that's going on as many people I love fucking. Country are doing right now the world. And some racists who admitted that they. Are In support of a president who is completely against what this young man is doing, what this young man stands for and has actually perpetuating this idea that anybody who's protesting of rain anything that he disagrees with or that white supremacist disagree with are actually terrorists and should be treated SSh by whoever the fuck is in the streets. They ran this over. Clearly intended to kill our bar cause significant harm. None of them have been charged sweats. None of them have been arrested. No nobody cares about what's going on over there. But this young man now has to face these charges for pulling flags off of cars that tried to kill him. I'm so confused. But I'm also not because I lived in Miami Florida for twenty five years and I already know how their bullshit goes down especially with Cubans conservative. Cuban. People if you. Find. Yourself. Part of a Hashtag a slogan saying. That is Cubans for trump If you are a legitimate fucking dumb, ass, you are so psychotic out of your mother fucking reaching minds that I'm almost concerned you. But I'm not because I grew up surrounded by. So many of the all and you're racist, you're persistent incessant, disgusting unabashed racism for most of our mother fucking light. Already know what time it is and I don't really understand why y'all continuously get goups especially by like. Clear. Obvious. fucking political morons. But that has nothing to do with you trying to kill this kid for doing what he's allowed to do, and then the same fucking city. Supporting, that shit like it's okay and it's not surprising to me whatsoever. Just because again, I already know how Miami said. So fuck the Miami Police Department for that Shit Fuck motherfucker sewer in those cars. If you say you're Cuban and your for trump bitch, fuck you big time as well. Fuck. Anybody who has a problem with any of this that I've just said or anything that this young man did. Or anybody who has supported this young man after this shit happened. I. Don't understand what kind of country you. Is Great. But. I'm not gonNA live bear. I'm not going to pay taxes their bitch, and I'm also not going any motherfucking wear so. There's that. The arrested that boyfriend pulling flags off the car and not the people who tried to fucking murder in, it's on camera and it's on camera. It's on camera unbe. So If you. I've just I'm so tired of racists, white supremacists. Conservatives. Republicans who? Literally, pass down the backs of people in this country until the spraining, it's like, why not literally I actually hate when people use literally incorrectly. But. You the fuck I'm saying like, I'm so tired of the constant like lying enshrined and just like it's so obvious like I understand why the government wants the ban shit like take Tock and all these other social media absence stuff because it gets, it keeps y'all from keeping up the bullshit like you are going to try so hard to convince American people that protesters and fronting Portland, were all rioters and all violent and all this that and the third, and you just had like it's just the consistent. Excuses that don't make sense or have place anywhere that get away with all the fucking time is annoying the fuck out of me, and this is piss me off because it's a reminder of the city that I grew up in and all of its you know many beauties and fun things or whatever. Miami is also a huge realm of racism and a lot of the people down there really anxious, and this is just the reflection of that. Also, I would like to say fuck president, Pease Porridge Hot I saw. A I. Think it was today he was doing a conference or some shit where he is. He's already begun the whole They cheated like he's already doing this whole. The election was rigged I, told you not to mail nothing and. No Pill? No. I won't go like. To lie I, mean, it's all. It's like, okay. Calm down, sweetie. You haven't even really stepped up there yet, and you already talking about these motherfucking Democrats cheated and shit like that. Bitch I'm so sick and tired of your motherfucking. I don't know what to do with myself. You look like, Elon? Musk. More, ironing like like an e Lan must got is. Desperately in need of fabric softener, you ugly, Bitch. I'm so tired of you. I'm so happy that there are some fucking children that exist on tick tock that lives solely on their annoy antagonize. The fuck out of you because you're so goddamn fool yourself that shit really burns you down. So ban away benched. I'm so sick of you. I don't even I'm not holding my breath that you'll be out of office after November. I'm not truthfully I'm not. We can hope for whatever we hope for. But even if you're not the President Joe Biden is going to be the president, and whilst that will be infinitely better than you is not something I'm going to do a fucking cart wheel over either so. Now here. I am in my skin, but I just wanted to say once again to President Peas, porridge in the pot days old fuck. You everything that you stand for everything that you stay you lumpy. Bitch I, hate you so much lastly. To those of you who wear your mask over your mouth, Nacho knows, what are we doing? Why? Why? Why you? That you probably just don't WanNA smell your own breath and I, promise you, I get it, but you're helping. You. Helping. One. Because the Juneau's Scott these holes in it. That lead right up to your personal spaces and you'll still get sick or get one of us. So. This. Is Why it just doesn't work. and. I'd like for you to get into that because the girls are literally walking around the city with a mask on over their mouth and just sucking up all of this New, York City air blowing back out with their fresh wide open nostrils like sweetie, just take the mask off. Take it off if that's what you're giving like, what the fuck do you even care for? Is just you know. I'm getting my things together now because I'm certainly not going back outside after like mid-september, you just won't even be able to pay me to go outside once it starts getting cold and everything is ratcheting up to the worst possible levels. But yeah, it's so many people out here. Not really giving a fuck about the mask are half ass where it initials like. Well, what is the fucking purpose it? You either go. You don't commit to win or not. But. Right and I hate that having a mask on his. Somehow political statement or like. A party? based. Damn, Republicans, they are doing. This should home park this trump's dumb, ass. He is absolutely don't try to steal the election, but you know we talk about that. Yeah some evitable Mallia with this white woman running for office called it torture. That said it like she was trying her best to compare. It's like actual torture and waterboarding Shit like that, and I'm like. Wearing, a marrow. says. Wearing a mask over your face that you know it's and it's been said in means a lifetime in time over again. But wearing a low fabric over your face. Is Way more comfortable. Than having a tube shoved down. Offer is. That is your only source of air. Is. That's that that's a ton more uncomfortable sweets. I promise you. It is or just being outright did that probably mean? You know if you really hate the mask, you could always just stay home. Could always just do that. You know it's strange because the people who are working these essential jobs find a way to put the mask on, but you can't when you run into the bank real quick. Girl. Get it the fuck together. but that wraps up this week's episode of the read. Thanks again to we testify for supporting today's episode. Testify is an organization dedicated to people who have A. Did. You know that someone you love had an abortion yet? That's probably true. So ask yourself what's the last thing they heard? You say about the topic was away people's antiabortion propaganda or was it something supportive? We have to change the conversation about pregnancy and abortion in our families because all of us know and or love someone who had one learn more at, we testified dot org and as always check us out on social media at this is the read our website is this is the read Yeah, like I said, the tour is cancelled. Automatic refunds being processed in all that. Sorry. y'All but America. Just cannot get it shit together and so it is what it is. And we were not going to be one of the girls who were going be like, yeah. We open anyway raw again, if you a real bitch like like the fucking chain smokers did you see that but it changes others refuse to cancel their show like bitch. Is as droplets bitch everywhere at a concert concert, like one of the worst places you could be, why Blake guys. This is just GonNa to make this all take way longer and Republicans are already talking about girl all you gotTa do is Die Especially, in this whole discussion of sending kids back to school and all of this shit like the the Republicans are legitimately like. You're either GONNA dire not and we all gotta go sometime. So like what's the problem? Only given up the idea that maybe we could do the best to keep one another safe. Yeah. Even if it makes us the taste uncomfortable. Three, things that made me smile this past week. were seeing. Vanessa. Bryant. Smiling with Lala on the shade. That was cute. It was nice. Smile on her face. He'd been momentarily chloe in Halley's glad awards performance where they attributed the spice girls with Naomi smalls. Mayhem. Miller Vanessa. Van G. Matteo from Paul's drag race. Low Alley. I adore though you can't tell me nothing about them girls. That's another park with thumbs up because I was just about to say whoever is over there running and making these decisions. Good job. Last Lay I. smiled watching Mark Zuckerberg get read nathe table, Mark, Zuckerberg jets, Basil like all these girls. Antitrust hearing a lot of people in May were asking really stupid questions or waste of time mostly Republican people again. Correct. But then you had people like you know see who got right up in into an underneath that asks. Every. Moment of it. Loved it. Yeah, and that's it. Thanks for listening. Yes. Take care of yourselves and we will see you next week.

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