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Ceiling On The 2020 Cowboys | Mark Schofield | Cowboys Beat with Ari Temkin and Patrick Conn

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Ceiling On The 2020 Cowboys | Mark Schofield | Cowboys Beat with Ari Temkin and Patrick Conn

"Today is Friday October 16th. This is Cowboys beat clns. Median. I'm already temkin. We joined by my co-host Patrick on here momentarily. We're also going to be joined today by quarterback Guru when I good friends Mark Schofield from USA Today in touch down wire great insights in the quarterback position to what the Cowboys are now staring down without Dak Prescott in the reality of the Andy Dalton situation Mark Schofield join the podcast and we've got a lot with you today. Obviously as we are reacting to the deck Prescott injury and then projecting out. What is the season now look like and and what are the expectations how much have they changed and shifted and what is the future of the quarterback position? I'll look like for the Dallas Cowboys. There's obviously a lot of questions left be answered when it comes to the Cowboys moving forward. 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Out of win so it's like it's like I want to be exciting cuz they have two wins in their first in the division. But then I look at the two teams. They beat or combined Dylan penso. It's hard for me to be too excited. So yes, but also like I think we've learned after five games. This team is a isn't good. If this team is a has a bad defense a worse issue with turning the football over and a pretty good offense pretty explicit buffets. Like that's if you took a bad defense and you turned the ball over too much or - 8 in the turnover differential like you're going to be that you're going to be two and three at only be teams that are winless and even like the Giants games a great example because on the post game show. You've got people calling in and they're like, they gave Thirty Four Points to a bad Giants teams. Like they did Dak Prescott had a pick-six an adult had fumbled the football on a snap inside the Giants Red Zone. They get up to 100 points to the Giants. They all right. I had this argument with somebody. Okay? Okay. So you're going to say they didn't give up 34 points to give up 27 because of the pick-six rep twenty-twenty because the adults had fiber was inside the Giants RedZone also, so that's like your sports reports even gave it up right? There was like a yards. Okay. Okay, do you say That the offense called 37 points in the scheme because they didn't because the defense scored seven seven. Nobody makes that argument but it's like they they they want to defend this defense because a the office is turned the ball over 11 times this year. They've only created three right? It's it's a conversation filled with fifty-nine. They're being outscored after Trevor's fifteen thousand and two ten. Yeah. No, it's bad. Don't get me wrong. It is terrible to 10 is the I get your point. Your point is well stated and it's a good point in this game, especially if she did actually one creditor over and actually score up that turnover which is like that's that happens once every four years. That's like a presidential election for the Cowboys, right? Here's the Let me go. Oh that's good. So my problem here at this team and I don't want to poo poo desime after a win, right but let's be realistic. This is a bad wage. Yeah. This is a bad football team. I just lost their Star Quarterback the guy that they expected to carry this team. And now you're going through the Andy Dalton, where's the gameplay completely changes? You know, they've got to rely on more and throwing the ball down the field from the pocket, you know, they don't have Dax ability to get outside. So they need better pass protection and kind of start running the ball more often. Here's the thing. The defense has got to do something for them. Okay, obviously the office got a quick turnover the ball, especially the red but the deepest got to give them some so they can run the that that's the big thing. I mean people are like, well they got along better while I agree. They haven't really had a chance to totally no, you're right. I okay. So let's start there then because like, where are you on this thing out for the 2020 season for the Cowboys are you part of like just tank and I don't care about watching this team the rest of the season or the success that they have or you like wait and see like let's let's see what this thing looks like, you know, I'm at the point, you know, and it's funny that you brought that up because I I so I tweeted out a pole on my Twitter account. Yes. I saw this, this is awesome 31.2% off. People who responded to this poll were on team tank. I don't know. It was like how how many people was it? It was like, yep. So so looking at it. I'm not a team tank that. You know, I'm I'm sorry, Jeff Cavanaugh not with you on teen tank. But because I look at it this way type is bad as this team is I don't think they're bad enough to get no internet top five. I mean not going to Out Tank a New York Jets football team. They're not going to have take some of those other teams like a Cincinnati Bengals who I think knows better, but they're not giving their quarterback NFL but so I'm on the on the side of let's let's see what happens. You know, you get a Randy Gregory back next week, you know late Vander. I should probably probably this week. Yeah interesting back, you know, it's interesting cuz you look at the same. There's two or three. Yes, that's bad, but they're in first place. But if you look at their reserved injured list, they can make a starting lineups from those guys wage. That's how bad it's been freaked out. Yeah. I just both tackles and you're starting quarterback and they're all all pro level guys. Yes, and then I mean, hopefully you get your dog a bath obviously Anthony Brown. He showed his his ability. I mean, he's worried that one touchdown. I mean look at some of the Cameron Erving comes back to help you out a little bit at one of your tackle spots, you know, so I I think when they get him back that helps a lot, you know, but the the things that I want people to kind of relax on is is what people were saying. Well the defense looked a lot better than this week. Okay, you gave up 34 points to a team that the scores a log 28.39 going into this. I'm not excited about that. Yeah, the defense look a little bit better generally looked a little bit but they didn't look a lot better than this game quiet. I just want to tap the brakes a little bit because this is a bad football team. Now if you can come out and they give you that kind of effort to get there as Zona we start talking because there is always a high-powered offense. yeah, no, and by the way, I totally agree with you like it's just I just don't think it's a great way to live as a fan where it's like, okay, it's early October. Let's give up on the season already. Like I just I get the idea of either you win a championship or you know, go for the highest peak, but it's it's it's like I just don't want to live in that world as a fan like I don't want to have to in October like be like the Giants like well my seasons over let's start looking at a draft picks. Like I just and I also think to your point like this teams too. Good in the league is too bad. Like there are three three winless tears five weeks in three know about right Atlanta to New York, New York. I think that's it. But like that's that's funny to see both New York's and I couldn't I couldn't to call down with Adam gase Truman Show like, yeah. So so yeah, we're on the topic of that. I think there's more to life or I think it's it's the wrong mentality to go in a season with championship or highest draft pick you can get I think that's the wrong mentality because obviously yep. First year under Mike McCarthy, you've got to establish and things in the season he needs to see where this team that he needs to see the progression. So he knows where to address this team come the offseason. I think we all should know middle of the defense just straight up the middle of the totally that's a big thing offensively maybe figure out left left tackle left or right tackle loss. They need to figure out, number government. They need to figure out who's center-right Connor who Connor McGovern I played one snap. But like I figure out him they gotta figure Connor Williams is Connor Williams better left Gardens. You better as your swing Tech. I think people are a little harsh on counter Williams, but I mean, I think he does a great job, but I wonder if he would be better served playing right tackle. So, okay, so Can this team win the division? Should this team should this team win the division? Could that yes should yes, I'm using this division. This term is an adult in the best quarterback in this division. You know, no no, I don't think so. I think he's he's in Carson Wentz at the best. I still I believe in Carson Wentz and I know that's probably not the right thing to say on a tablet has been podcast but I don't think he's a really good player and against Pittsburgh. He looks really good. I mean, he still has you still has issues. He's still Running Scared in the pocket, you know, you know, I'm getting out, you know, that's one of the things he bails on a clean pocket sometimes, you know, he's you know, he's still got that deer-in-the-headlights. Looks like I still think he's a capable quarterback do I think he's capable of taking very far know because I feel like I've always felt he's a good quarterback with injuries. Yeah. No, I think you're right. At least until we see any adult play, you know? Okay, so we agree they could probably win the division. They probably should win the division and they probably still have 1/2 best quarterback in this division, which is crazy. How what's their ceiling? Is there ceiling less than what it was with does this team still have Championship aspirations. Did it ever have Championship aspirations home? I mean, I think the aspirations are always there was this how realistic was it? And I still think that with deck. Yes, and even with with Dalton and I'm not saying that Dalton is anywhere near the quarterback that that attack is but here's the thing Dalton was good in Cincinnati. And he's in a situation here in Dallas where he's got better weapons and he's ever had in his career. That's not the crap on it AJ Green. That's not the crap on a Joe Mixon it running with the fact is equally he's got the best Trio of wide receivers in the league Michael Gallup one of the best deep-ball receivers in the leave. I mean we saw how good is he? Holy cow. I mean, you said you saw with him and and I you know, I know in in with Gallup, the one thing I need him to work on is I need them to get further inside when you're running those cuz he's not getting this quarterback any room for error on those throws, but you know, but but outside of that, I mean CB lamb that shot. He took catching the ball over the middle of the middle. Yeah, you know, I mean, I thought that Pat that captured one by Mari when they set up the long-throw to Michael Gallup, so I mean, he's got weapons all over the place. So I feel like he's still he's still capable of it and given this division wage. I don't see any reason to lower my expectations that much just because Dax out even though I do think it is a downgrade going to end. Well, yeah, I I agree with you. I think it's like let's just see, you know, like let's just see what this team looks like. Let's see how you know, they have a week in a day, you know, get the extra time to get ready for this game. Like let's see how much different they look wage. And because I do think you know, it's like you change some things schematically in all of a sudden you've changed a lot of things about the team, you know, and so I'm just of the approach where it's like let's just wait and see what this thing looks like before we make these declarations about what this team can and cannot do you also have a quarterback and and adult and it's never won a playoff game. It's not like a great playoff games that has everything to prove. You know that capacity and before I hit the Mark Schofield who's going to give us a good break down a quarterback play and and I I'm excited to have Mark on The first round of the NFL draft or the Cowboys going 20-21. What's your number one priority in where is quarterback in that? Herb exercising in my top three really? I don't I don't think quarterbacks an issue. I think that's going to be back. I mean, I think you'll be back. Yeah, go ahead sir. I was just saying the joke all the time that you know, this team is probably if they win it they're going to go away from that. No, they're not. I don't think they will. You know, I think cooler heads will prevail and they they'll either they need that Prescott franchise tag long-term deal. I think you get stagnant. So so that's why I'm saying, I agree completely. I think that press got the starting quarterback of the Cowboys 20-21 on the franchise tag office, which means They probably should think about quarterback in the first round. They should here's here's to know where you're drafting. What quarterback can you get because if you're not drafting in the top ten am right in the deck Prescott, you can't expect to happen twice or Cowboys fans will because Romo is undrafted and and I mean, but you're right. It's just not a realistic wage your highest likelihood. Just go back to the draft history like most the starting quarterbacks in the NFL are first-round picks and most of them are first overall picks or top five picks. Yeah. It's it's the exception of I agree and trailing. I haven't done a huge Deep dive in the draft yet. And I'm this is part of the reason. I want to get Mark Schofield onto I think Trey Lance might be the best quarterback in this draft more so than Trevor but um, um, Those three Lance fields and Trevor are going to be gone at first five picks, or at least the topic Sam ehlinger. No. He's gotta be able to complete passes out a field right at some point at some point. 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I'll do the good news first the good news here for Cowboys packages that he still might like now, I'll be the best quarterback in the NFC East partly a reflection on how everybody else is played because Washington quarterback situation is a mess Django Jones doesn't seem to be quite have put it together yet and caution. Once while a good quarterback has struggled this year. I mean I've struggled around him Lane Johnson has hurt historically once has struggled without land Johnson in a life. And so almost by default you can make the argument that and you talked to might be the best quarterback in the division. Not a flip side of that is it's a bad division, which might mean that Andy Dalton could still get you to the playoffs and get you a dog. You titled ready in 30 is a drop-off Jack Prescott. I think that's an acceptable fact. You don't think anybody will push back on where Eddie Dalton is right now is he's a quarterback that he can still run most probably eighty-five to ninety percent of your offense with you. Just let it go enough that some of your plays that you have in there for Dad, press God to take advantage of his athleticism may have to check out of the Playbook there might be some more quarterback designs ones that you probably don't want to use just because now if you lose any. And you're really in trouble so you probably don't watch them too much dance you the vertical passing game you saw that on the throat of Gallup at the end of the game when you needed a play that was a tremendous reading program and adult and they showed him to High coverage. They spotted two age Hai. He saw the signal coverage of Galilee through a great deep-ball so you could still run the bulk of your Elf and she had made so it's not a full-on panic situation. I think if you're doubtless because of all of the song How did circumstances regarding this division right now? You can still run your offense and Main competitor with Andy Dalton. Is he a downgrade of Dak Prescott? Absolutely, can you still with with with with them? Sure? It's talking about Andy Dalton and and we also know of his problems back to Cincinnati, especially in the playoffs. I think that might have been somewhat of a challenge who don't get me wrong a degree. In fact, that's what everybody is is the most talented team that handles that part of an argument that the Cowboys have perhaps new best three wide receivers set in football, you know between Amari Cooper Michael Gallup see who has been as advertised. And so yes, like you said engine green is a tremendous wide receiver and he certainly was at that time because your emotions I had some of the other guys around too good not great. Most Cowboys wide receiver Trail is great like talked about an X Y and Z and then you do Ellie in the backfield. This is still a very talented office. There are offensive line issues and injuries to figure out what the Vantage Elton has shown is that if there's Talent around him he can be successful. And so I do think that this is a good group of players around him that can carry and pick up some of the slack with that downgrade from wage. To Dolton with Mark Schofield here Mark, if you let's say you're Jerry Jones. What are you doing with Dax contract this offseason? Well, I mean I was told about what they should have paid him, you know in a relationship Ajax situation because Jack Prescott is a good enough quarterback that you do not want to let him go. You know, I know we talked about 82 Altima need to talk to a sort of a poster child the quarterback Purgatory where you put enough to keep, you know his put it off that you don't want to let him leave but he's not great and going to get you to the next level get you weighed not worth a couple of wins every year exactly. I think that gets and I will you know, I am in the deck Camp here and I think you know given what we have seen four people coming back from injuries isn't a situation where I think your plans change long-term with Dak Prescott, because of this injury, you know, I think you still look at him and say look, this is our franchise quarterback. This is a guy we can win because of not just went with and so I think you know, you're still paying this player. You're still paying this call log. I wonder what this injury I think it should have gotten deal done before hand. I think that nothing changes now with this injury you feel comfortable giving him forty million a year. I would walk. I absolutely would now, you know part of the circumstances here and I'll have to give credit to Kansas City paper City. Got out some of the bombs deal first, you know, they're sort of set the market I think song. Yeah, like Bob's Jerry Jones. I was in working harder to get the death deal done rolling at my home. She was coming known that walks and was coming cuz now that are sort of resets the market especially within that framework of what month is that were watching got forty million for Jack. Yeah. I'm okay with that because she can give you a winner to a year where other quarterbacks can't and in the NFL a sixteen Game season seemed to be Seventeen that's worth what you are paying. The the one big thing that has been kind of talked about a lot this year was especially early on 11 turnovers in five games is Andy dead. The quarterback that can help you in that or is he a guy that's more susceptible to more turnovers at quarterback. I mean, there's a good or bad here with Alton because he's good enough money to not make glaring mistakes, but you will see moments particularly when he fishes pressure in the pocket where the decision-making does dip a little bit and he does either make a poor decision what he's pressure off or make inaccurate throws one pressured. So that's something to watch that gets back to the offensive line woes the Dallas have suffered this year. But if you get sorted out and she can get kept clean that goes away also off what year in Cincinnati when he was and you're seeing a double-team on AJ Green even gets pressured. Now you're forcing throws you to coverage sometimes that works against you you're not going to see situations like that as often like we talked about early if that were the talent that they have if you want to double one of those guys go ahead go for it. We're going to leave somebody else pretty wide open. So that's the that's why you see a lot of dead. I looks against Dallas right now cuz you have to keep that dedicated safety over the top which does truth it puts up the stuff underneath that it keeps the Box light for a simple Elliot. And so that the talent of those three wide receivers boss has a Cascade down effect on the rest of this offense at the other thing is now it's on a situation where you've got like Brett Rypien starting games for you when you're comfortable as a defensive coordinator stack in the box with the internet guys about tearing them to throw if you do that again, you leave it single coverage and Andy Dalton is good enough to make you pay in those situations. So it's never too early to talk draft with you which is fantastic. I see the quarterback position. Am I crazy to think the trade Lance is better than Trevor Lawrence. I would am I crazy to think I'd take Trail at the number one overall pick over Trevor Lawrence Patrick saying, yes, I like Trail and it's a lot but I I just think that there's consideration for a couple of different franchises to go Trail and over Justin Fields. I would grant that I can't go Trail and silver triple moment. I just dead. I think Lawrence is as complete a quarterback as we've seen in a while to the point where I just sort of Mount love and recently this summer over evaluated Trevor Lawrence and we talked about school outfits for him and we had basically every offense you can take up to the point where Matt said he could drop him in Baltimore and he could be just as effective as not Lamar Jackson cuz of how athletic years that's how good Trevor Lawrence is walk ins what number one unless is it seems that it's dead set on who they have a quarterback and I think if you're picking number one, you're not you have to consider Trevor Morin's so off diets Jets. You're still taking Trevor Lawrence. Did you have to I think you do too especially especially when the Jets? Yeah, I think Joe Joe Dave gettleman probably get a job after year. And I don't think they'd give up of Daniel Jones. But the Jets you're looking at a new head coach. You might want his quarterback. You've seen now Daniel Jones enough. I mean shoot a dog. I'm child enough to think well, either you like them or you don't and if you're a new coach coming in and you want your guy you're not sold on that same Donald and you're picking number one. You're drafted trouble. Yep, I agree with that a hundred percent, especially if like a situation where headed Atlanta if they get the number one pick, we're going to have a new coach coming in when they started you had quit. I made it just for Dabo Swinney. I mean, I don't think Davao goes out of the double makes the leap. But if you're glad that you have the number one over bump overall pick you go to Clemson you lived out in the eye and say you could have Trevor Lawrence to build around for like ten years. You know what this kid can do the castle is yours. Would that be enough to leave Clemson in the counseling field? They're probably not but maybe I think it's worth exploring if you're out there black how many first rounds are there at quarterback this year? I said I think easily three maintenance or contrast my trusty he's been impressive so far. That's probably the for safe ones to somebody sneaking off but I think those are the four stages that's in here right now and it's tough to know because so many guys emerge you don't have the fact over the Big Ten playing yet. And so it's like every year we see guys emerge say this is Matt Jones has made some nice throws for Alabama and he's somebody that I haven't really delve into his film yet. But every Saturday afternoon, I have been a fan since GM saying look, you gotta watch this channel when it's up sent to me via d m like look at this throw. So there's something there and you know, obviously that offense off itself to what we're seeing at the NFL the next level right now. So bad jokes might sneak in there are some others too, but I think I'll trash is probably the guy that's next in that conversation. Now, I'm going to be looking for my next Patrick Mahomes. The 21 come home and back in the day like you gotta watch us get up telling you this trick is slated. So, you know obviously have checked the packages Palace all over my whole life. What most people do we was the end the Bears Pat warranty given the Bears do you have in the Bears still to this day get that you're allowed yet. I mean Nick Foles they maybe we'll get this year, but they still got to figure out quarterback mon. I'm not convinced Falls as any better than Mitchell trubisky. I'm not either he's just so high voltage that you know, some weeks will do what he did against Eva base and make sure do what he did against, you know, Indianapolis and so better than you know, traditionally, maybe maybe it is it is but the lowest probably aren't yeah Sid Luckman eight walking through that door, you know. And right now it wasn't like but man was the greatest quarterback in you know, NFL Mark Schofield follow him on Twitter. He does fantastic work at Mark Schofield, of course, Chicago work touchdown wire and NFL wire Mark. Appreciate your time buddy be well. Thank you. Always got you too, buddy. All right. Thank you to Mark Schofield. Thanks, of course to migrate. Co-host Pat dead Con on Twitter at Pat Sports guy. I am already temkin and a reminder follow us on Twitter at r e Sports and at Cowboys Beats on Twitter. And of course you want to win. So that's awesome Miller Lite carbs gear that I have to give away. Go subscribe to the page YouTube. 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Dak Deal Even Better than Thought

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31:32 min | 4 months ago

Dak Deal Even Better than Thought

"Play Friday March 12th. This is Cowboys VTC health and as media wage attempted Dave. Anything happened with Dak Prescott this week we can talk about. Today's episode can be talking about why the deck Prescott deal is even better than you thought probably a lot better than you thought actually getting that a moment. We're also going to talk with ESPN NFL front office Insider Michael Tannenbaum, the former GM of the Jets former Executive Vice President of football operations for the Dolphins about the deck contract about the draft but a lot of interesting parts to the NFL offseason. I'm already temkin on Twitter at r e Sports and appreciate everybody for subscribing to the podcast check it out a podcast and I would urge you please to give us a rating as well because as I say it always helps other people find the podcast and I'm asking each and every one of you every week. If she could please tell your friends. You're probably a Cowboys fan that knows other Cowboys fans. And so I'm asking you tell them about this podcast. Tell them check it out. Have you heard about the Cowboys beat with Ari time getting he does the Cowboy game? Video and he's really cool and some just kidding. You have to say that. In fact, I probably encourage you not to because it doesn't matter that. I'm not cool or handsome. Well that matters that you liked the show and that you're helping me to share the show. So thank you for that. Today's episode brought to you by been online, but online. Adrian is your online Sportsbook experts. Okay, so on previous episodes of talked about the fallacy of the salary cap. In that the salary cap is a great tool that Executives owners general managers can use to sell a fan base and why they can't do a certain deal even if they don't say it outwardly. It's sort of known from each fan that like, well, you've got to stay within the structure of the cat, but the reality of the situation is NFL teams can keep extend signed rubber players they wash The players that they cut don't pick up they just didn't want to but but the fallacy is in that you can restructure deals you can structure deals and you sign them to be able to be structured. There's so many cap gymnastics in ways around it. These these lawyers that work for organizations. And the people that that are accountants for them are way too smart to offer stand the different intricacies of salary cap. People tip go around it and make whatever deal they want fit. So this goes back to Dak Prescott who earlier this week. So an extension with the Cowboys tax back and some of you not all but some of you are upset about the deal. Others are happy the deal got done happy tax here, but not sure that he's going to go worth the money do they overpay for Dak Prescott? It's a lot of money here the numbers and you hear Patrick Mahomes forty two million a year and Dak Prescott will be just a shade under that right? He's not as much as Mahomes, but he's right there. And so you're thinking your head like, he's not a Patrick Mahomes. What? And I get that he's not he's not even the second best quarterback in the league. It's not even top five though. You could argue some could that he is top five. I'd argue. He's somewhere between five and ten, but as I've talked about go back and listen episodes past like it went from arguably top 15 to definitely top 10 to now arguably top 5 That's unbelievable growth for Dak Prescott. But here's the fallacy of the deal. And here's why if you're one that says and I would say the probably a majority Cowboys fans feel like good quarterback. Is he a great quarterback? Right? That's that's the sort of a lot of delineation, right good quarterback, but do you pay him that much money? And here's the thing. The money doesn't matter right? We'll get we'll get into this is Mike Tannenbaum in a moment, but Like if you're the Cowboys, are you really going to walk away from a deal because you're like well, we think he's thirty-five million a year 36 million a year 37 million year. I mean you're talking about like a very odd like a very small I'm not trying to say a millions of dollars a small amount in the grand scheme of the NFL spending and salary cap and free agency talking about a negligible amount of money like a few a couple of million here there. It's like is that really make the difference here? Is that like like such a better deal if it's a thirty-five million dollar deal which by the way probably could have gotten the deal to it last year definitely could have gotten the deal done a couple of years ago. And obviously the the number has continue to go up. But here is something that's even better about it. And this is something that I didn't know until Michael gehlken of the Dallas Morning News reported this after speaking with Todd France tax agent off this came out on Thursday for Michael gehlken. And that is the structure of the deal is such that it's a four-year contract on paper, but the Cowboys were insisted on including avoidable fifth and sixth year off. So it's essentially a six-year deal but those two years are avoidable by either parties here. So it's not really a six-year deal. It's bigger borders before but just follow me why they do a longer-term deal with voidable years the suggestions the smarts of the lawyers and the the the very very intelligent understanding numbers accountants here, right? Because how does a signing bonus worth signing bonuses spread out over the life of a deal so a $66 signing bonus over four years. It's going to be more than a $66 signing bonus stretched out over five years or six years. Now. Here's the rub. You can always give us any bonus over five years. So why add the sixth-year good question because that voidable 60r then becomes the extra year if the Cowboys want to restructure his deal after this year get it. So they include two voidable extra voidable years there. One so that the annual cost of the signing bonuses going to be less but too so that further down the road if they want or need to restructure the deal and borrow from the future they can do so because they're already have those extra couple of years built in this is the given the take of cellular cap of negotiations. And this is the fallacy of the Bowery cap. Everybody's want a Cowboys fan up too much to pay. Are you paying it know the salary cap is a salary cap. It's teams are going to spend up to the salary cap. Right? So like there's no like well the if they didn't pay him this they're going to get that no, no, no. No they can get whoever they want and they're going to be spending up to 6 each every year and they can restructure deals. Like that's it's it's a fallacy they built into extra years into this deal that are avoidable simply be so they can do the gymnastics that they Need to restructure a deal and they can at any point time restructure deal without needing the player to agree to it because it's just giving him more money sooner. So why wouldn't they want that? And by the way, they can do this with other players in free agency. So it really isn't even better deal than we expected it to be and I think it was a great deal because it's a done deal. And those are the best kinds especially when you're talking about the potential of you know, not having a religion franchise quarterback. That's somewhere between by most accounts 5 and 10 and the league if you're ranking them. Now I know there's you know some concern over him coming back from injury and there's always concern and and as you'll hear people say well, I mean the Cowboys know better than anybody else is current status from the injury. You know, DAC had that that ankle surgery had to have a second surgery to clean some things up that's immigrated signed but there's always a risk of injury. You know, what? It's a physical physically demanding sport guys are gonna suffer injuries. It's crazy that he got this far in his career without suffering an injury. I would if if we're if we're ready for power ranking injuries, I'd probably put like broken bones higher than I would soft tissue injuries which can linger and and people respond differently to and you never Tire Lee sure where it's broken bones to be more cut-and-dried and that's obviously we're talking about with Dak here. But yeah, there's a risk in him returning from injury. And by the way, there's a risk in paying quarterbacks that are going to age And so long as you got a guy that's talking age. You're good paying him. But if you get a you pay a guy that's going to age. Then you know the older you get the harder it to come back from injury and all that jazz. And as I've continued to say whether it be here, or I might YouTube page youtube.com r e sports sports go subscribe there, please. You can win a Superbowl Dak Prescott. I was asked was on a radio show in Kansas City and I was asked point-blank. Will the Cowboys win a Superbowl with Dak Prescott? And I said, yes Ma'am. Why not? They're they're not going to follow up if he doesn't write but because I have the faith in DEC to be able to do that. At the quarterback position because any, you know the arguments about against Dak we've been through them, you know, he's he's not he's inaccurate. Okay, he's got the literally has the fifth-best can't log into NFL history. But okay and then the the second one is yeah, but I mean it's all dumped offs. It's all underneath like I mean just for sure it's not like there's there's factual evidence to support that it's not but second of all, you're talking about a quarter back over 5 Seasons like the idea that he's Alex Smith and I'm a complete Captain check down all the time over 5 Seasons, like sure maybe in a game maybe a couple of games. I'll buy that but over the course of five seasons know she can put up the numbers the deck is put up a meter. Fanelli's Nineteen Hundred yards his first four plus games this season. You don't do that with checkdowns. Okay, it's absurd. Guy is a remarkable leader. He's an incredible person genuine, right and these are things that matter. You know, I I love the quote in the book of basketball my Bill Simmons he gets from Isaiah Thomas and it is Isaiah tells him the secret to basketball and this is not just basketball by the way security basketball. Nothing has nothing to do with basketball. It's about everything else. So the plane rides but the hotel rooms it's about the camaraderie. It's the dinners. It's the friendships. It's that So like the stuff that a lot of people think don't matter doesn't matter you stuff that matters a lot a lot more than you'd think and I've covered in been around championship teams. I can tell you that matters a lot way more so than you'd ever think like I'm not even kidding more so than the on the field stuff. so That leads me to. The can the Cowboys win a Superbowl the DAC. Yes. But and that Stephen Jones so, you know, you still hear people complain about Jerry and cowboys won't do anything until Jerry hires a real football guy and I mean it's been years now. It's Stephen Jones. It's running the show, right? They they have transitioned. Steven isn't even in the meetings as they're negotiating contracts. Okay. I'm like, you know, the markets came out with the Demarcus Lawrence the connector to go she actions but it's like yeah, Jerry Jerry KO Market said Hi, and then all the adults went into her room a conference room and long ago. She had the contract. Okay, like Jerry's in there. He wasn't Todd France referenced working with Stephen Jones. Not going to say Jerry doesn't have a say Jerry on the team as long as he's living and so he's gotta say but this organization from a Personnel standpoint is being run by Stephen Jones. Now, you might say they need to hire football people. They have wage. I have they've got a lot of football people in there that are aiding and helping Steven as he's making decisions. It's it functions way more so like a normal organization then you would think but here's the question Jerry is Stephen Jones good his job. That we can question because I think there was a point in time where everybody clamored for something different than Jerry and what we saw in the early 2000s was Jerry just Free Will and spend not being good and no commitment to the draft and we saw in the last ten years with the opposite and that's Steven. Steven is worth on my situation. She was the opposite of Jerry in that regard. Bill to the draft don't spend in free agency don't take risks and free agency. So Steven get his job. He trusts even do we trust Stephen Jones to put the right pieces around Dak Prescott the Cowboys be successful because as much as we want to talk about you'll conduct lift up ization. And can he make up for areas where they're not great like I mean, Aaron Rodgers has won Superbowl. Okay, Aaron Rodgers has been the best or the second best quarterback in the NFL for a long time. He has one title. 1 and how many Super Bowls has he played in? Right, I mean Russell Wilson one title. I mean Russell Wilson can lift up a franchise did not a lot of great pieces around him, but she got one title another Super Bowl appearance to Super Bowl appearances one titled back to back here. So that's it. Okay, there are a bunch of teams that are doing this. The great quarterback lives of everybody around him. Maybe it's Tom Brady. Maybe it's Patrick Mahomes. But like if you're not going to pay a quarterback because they're not Tom Brady Patrick Mahomes. Good luck finding a quarterback. So do we trust Stephen to put the right pieces around deck so that the answer to that question convect Prescott won a Superbowl with the Cowboys is yes. what we need to see is a change to Stephen Jones has seemingly in flexibility. And Stephen Jones change his stripes. Stephen was and has been the antithesis to Jerry freewheeling spending taking risks and it was a disaster especially in the early 2000s for the first decade of the 2000s month, but would Stevens done has still not resulted in the Cowboys winning a Superbowl. It's been a long enough period of time now where we saw one side of the extreme. We've now seen the other side of the extreme and neither have resulted in titles. Neither have even resulted in an NFC championship appearance. So the jury is still out on Stephen Jones Steven did things in order to get this organization back on the right track. They have drafted so much better and begin a pretty consistent and good drafting team with mistakes made on defense. And they have obviously made a mistake in terms of like who do they keep who they let walk? The most part they they've done really well in that and that department letting the right guys walk drafting. Well drafting the right guys. They put together a really good offense through the draft for the most part. The jury still on Steven because Steven needs to prove that he can you can move more towards the middle of that spectrum because the Cowboys are not going to win a Superbowl building the way that they've built them. You can't just build your entire roster through the draft can't especially given the window to the Cowboys have right now which they have. You cannot risk this window right now by entirely building your defense, especially in the secondary through the draft. So let's bring this full circle here. We know the salary cap is a fallacy. We know the Cowboys can sign whoever they want within reason and restructured Deals and on and on we know that. Just go put your money where your mouth is Steven. And make the answer the question. Can the Cowboys winning symbol with Dak Prescott? Yes. Michael Tannenbaum coming up in a moment here. But first I need to tell you about my friends bed online. But online. 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Well, how's it going doing very well. Thanks. I want to get your thoughts on deck and and all of that jazz, but let's start with the draft because you you work on the NFL draft for ESPN, which is one of the most amazing Productions and especially given the circumstances running last year off. So what was what was like to get part of that especially from from the viewership side. It was like I was shedding tears when it started because it was the first time from March to June April that we had seen anything resembling live sports. So it was it was really just an amazing production the way that it all came together, but then I think from the viewership side it was it was it was like just an oasis in the middle of the desert of of no Sports. Yeah, that's a great way to put it and it was interesting. So two years ago. We were in Nashville, and it was kind of, you know business as usual kind of feels like a lifetime ago, doesn't it off? And then last year were doing the ESPN. This is the national radio broadcast and I'm doing great from here. You know, it's just crazy to think that like we're doing the NFL draft for ESP em were all at our homes. Like that would have been you know, just unimaginable not that long ago. So yeah, we'll see what happens this year and hopefully slowly, you know, things are getting back to normal and not only that but like the the plans initially for what they had in Vegas for like, you know, the fountain he was like to go from that to what they ended up with credible would have been the show of all shows, you know, just give Jerry Jones the microphone make him the MC and away we go and aspect I think for me a lot of fans. I don't know under have an understanding of how much work goes into this not just from the media, but it for like GMS and coaches, you know, like and and not just this but everything so they're dead. From their families a lot. And and obviously I'm not telling you something you don't know but to then get some insights into these individuals working from home during the draft, you know, just just take us through sort of what your experiences would be like given that circumstance. Yeah. Look you you guys you make the best of the situation, you know, really on all sides of the equation if you're with a team. Well, you're preparing for the draft. Yeah, like I run virtual Zoom meetings like we have one at 7:00 today. We're doing the quarterbacks and we'll have three or four different coaches on a couple of Scouts formed it should say and you know, if you're in the media you guys do the best you can buy, you know calling people texting them and if you're with a team a lot of these things out or virtual and maybe it's not exactly the same thing but with technology, it's pretty good. What are your general thoughts just in terms of as as you were a GM or an Executive Vice President of football operations in preparing for the draft. What was your method? How much did it change over time? Yeah, the more I get the more I realize it was always about how players treated people that couldn't help him how you treat the waiter the waitress that was more important than anything and the pre-draft process which comprehensive but bringing players into our facility and really getting to know them which helpful and really, you know, just talking to people around them like going back to we had a private workout Whit Mayfield and we wanted to know more about Baker the person you go to that University of Oklahoma facility and you know, the administrative assistance the strength coach the equipment person that took they swore by and they thought he was a great person and a great leader and that's really it's so important because you know coach Belichick had a great action, which is the true things going to have a pro football is more time and more FAQ. How are you going to embrace those two things? Yeah, I've always said you can learn a lot about a person that how they treat people they perceive to be beneath them. So I I agree with that wholeheartedly in terms of cost for construction, you know, there's always Free agency for fans is so much fun. Because you know, it's these players that they know and they want their teams to sign them and they're excited when they do what we've seen the pitfalls of it and and you know, the the part of the NFL with the salary cap is you have to be able to get guys to exceed the amount that they're costing against the cap which is the draft is so I mean, how do you balance the you know, missing in the draft of certain areas fortify most positions through free agency with the risks and pitfalls of free agency given that the structure of the cap. Yeah. You really have to be precise. You're going to pay your own if at all possible cuz you know more about their intangibles their injury history, but they are as a teammate and when you go into free agency and I've had big hits and misses you trying to fill needs and when you get into creative see, there's so many things you can't control you don't know what other people are going to be paying and that's just one of those things where if it's truly like buyer beware log. Or any indicators that you've seen where it's like okay, if this box is checked, this is not going to be a successful free agency for this guy. Yeah. Yeah, I think you know the morale of like what they bring like if they do not only on the field but like great teammates and selfless and and you overpay those players the rest of the lockers to locate like hey Mike. What are you doing here? Like what message are you studying at? I think that's really really important. Let's talk about Dak Prescott. Just general your general thoughts on the contract. When you when you saw it, you know, look it was a big win for him by any metrics put that said I gotta give you know Galesburg p.m. For five years and he looked at it. It was Thirty 1 million on a one-year deal and then you know the next floor 160 that's roughly, you know one 91/5 and that comes in a blender, you know, basically like 32, which is a little bit under DeShaun Watson. So if you look at on a five-year deal you could say hey baby over paid a little bit, but they got their franchise quarterback for the foreseeable. True. Yeah, I mean, it's funny cuz Cowboys fans, I think our our They don't have a total gauge like I grew up in Chicago. Okay, the greatest quarterback in the history of the Bears is Sid Luckman. Okay, that's that's perspective there as opposed to the Cowboys who have money in their history Aikman and Staubach and Romo and debts. So they they're they have an embarrassment of riches the position so they don't have the they don't have the right context to sort of understand how good deck is I mean wage so that excuse any reality for them. And so so many people ask me they're like, why did the Cowboys overpay for DEC or I don't think they should have paid him. They should have taken their he's not that good. How do you evaluate that? Because it's like God if it's not Patrick Mahomes, there's a feeling like well, why would you sign him? Yeah, because I think one of the things you bring up a great point because one of the things that fans sometimes forget is what's the cost of not having him so I'll give you a great example, but let's go to Seattle for a cell phone. So two guys that do a great job Pete Carroll John Schneider. They're playing with Tarvaris Jackson and Max LED. And in the third round they draft Russell Wilson and would you like to have back flannel Capron will be like a Russian wall shirt and cap challenges. So if you want to go play with Paxton Lynch or Brock Osweiler both those quarterbacks are available at any price. If you're Galax, I know it's a little it's just but sometimes like, you know, there's so many people that have made me better at ESPN The Dan orlovsky is the running Clark's but Dominique Fox Sports, like most guys have been great and and have offered me a lot and straight to get their perspective on things. But one of the things that you know, I think I bring to the table is like, hey guys, like okay, you want to pay. Thirty-two or thirty-three million? That's great. No problem. That's wrong. Probably Fair on paper. But if he graduates, it's a free agency who's playing quarterback for Dallas and oh by the way that players not coming for free which either draft Capital it's salary dollars. It may be both. So before we just sit here and say in discriminately, I'm not going to Penny over 34 million. No problem cuz I've been there, you know, I've been going to a stadium where Brooks Bollinger was our quarterback and we'll play Tom Brady and let me just tell you something. The module is located very good sitting up in the box when you're out there with Brooks Bollinger. Yeah and cowboys. That should know that because before Romo took a long stretch of those kinds of quarterbacks after Aikman, how do you evaluate Dak Prescott? What's your thought on him in terms of the quarterback hierarchy? Yeah, I really like them. You know, I've been a big big proponent of him. He's young. He's athletic he can make all the throws. He has a playoff when and when I say, he's High character like when you talk to people that building, yeah, he is a real leader like not a leader like social media posts, like look at me with my workout leader, like authentic supportive nurturing person and leader in the most Earnest and sincere way and that's from direct people inside that building and to me one of the things that's really important in life is you forget sometimes like it's human beings and when the left guard or the right tackle have a bad day and he can pick them up like that's valuable. Yeah, I mean my experience with that is the same genuine, you know, I mean not this is not to bag on Romo. But you know Romo would do an interview in the locker room. And then you turn around it's over walk away you get that. I mean that's what most guys would do I get that but Jack is like interviews over and like that's when the real interview begins because then he shoot the breeze with reporters. And you know, he's not in a hurry to get I mean that to me says a lot of it validates a lot of the things you hear about him from teammates inside a locker room where the media doesn't have access to and that's there's a lot of value. I don't know that people understand the value in that way in you you've talked we talked at nauseam. We talked about free agency the draft and character and you know individual personality is such an important component that I think a lot of times fans don't put enough value in in two months. Hundred percent and it's a force multiplier and look let's just put this into context here. So again, let's just say if we discussion let's say gaps at 4:35 million dollars instead of forty. Everyone be like, oh that's good deal. That's a really good deal by gal. So let's just for argument's sake say that they were paid by 5 million Taps 180 this year. When a teacher next year, let's say Thursday. Close to two hundred and away we go we're talking about the salary cap in the aggregate being about a billion dollars that they're going to spend on players over the life of this contract if they overspend by with five million a year on five years. We've overspent by 25 million dollars on a billion dollar outlay. If you're going to overspend on something shouldn't be on a high-character productive quarterback. One last thing for you and that's on decks. Ankle. How much concern would you have he had the surgery but then he had to have the second surgery to clean it up. Are you concerned about that at all your own early? I would suggest with that said nobody knows more about it than they do. So if you know, they're going to look under the hood like they're there everyday if I was a team and I say are on a hey, you know, Mister. Oh, we're going to write a check here or hundred sixty million. I would have, you know pause for concern, but obviously if he's there every day that's got to be a moot point. Yeah. Well said Mike Tannenbaum the former GM of the Jets executive wage into football operations for the Dolphins. And now the ESPN NFL front office and Satur Mike. Thanks for your time be well. Thank you. Yeah, great to be reunited and good to see you and keep up the good work. All right. Thanks to Mike Tannenbaum who can follow along her at real Tenenbaum. He does a fantastic job real good guy real great dude genuine and really good insights into the National Football League dead. I'm already tempted on Twitter at our a sports. If you have not yet already, please hit subscribe and and tell a friend. You know, I've been I've been keep talking about this but help us grow The Show by telling your friends about this page Tom. Check it out. Check out the Cowboys beat podcast great insights. Whatever. I mean, how are you going to say? I'm not going to put words in your mouth. 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