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RuPauls Drag Race Season 12 | Episode 10 Ru-Cap

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RuPauls Drag Race Season 12 | Episode 10 Ru-Cap

"Hello hello and welcome to the RU Paul's drag race recap here on reality. Tv WRAP UPS. I'm your host Liana. Boris and we are here to talk about episode. What episode is this ten ten of Paul's drag race season? Well of course I am not alone with me is a man who I'm sure we'll now legally be changing his name to Brent the planet Brandt Welcome. How are you? I died in fell out when she said that and I was living for her all the more like I thought it was just a nickname and then when I heard she legally changed her name. I was like you go bitch. We love you and like I had a great time with her throughout this entire episode so it was very nice to be here. Yeah that follow through so committed I love it. Oh God yes well. Of course we also have a man which much like drag brings joy. He brings joy Amman Amman. How're you doing? I am also really really good. Super duper excited talk about this episode. the ending. I felt was like the only appropriate way to end an episode. Like this though I feel like this is just like an episode. Where you know. You don't often get those and drag races. I'm excited great. Yeah well we will definitely get into everything including the. Save the double save that we got this episode and all of the makeovers here which I'm really looking forward to. And then of course we will talk a little bit about the episode of secret celebrity drag race that also aired this week. Let's kick things off and get into what happened after the elimination. There's not a whole lot talk about here but you know you get a little bit more of the inner saboteur talk discussing widow and we are reminded of course brand that this is our top sits. Yes our top six and it's going to remain on top sakes for awhile which is also kind of crazy thinking. It's also our top five. Yeah that's true true. I didn't even think about that actually. Yeah wow that's why we're we`re. We're we're really close. Yeah we're really close and then also thinking okay so if somebody had gone this weekend I guess this will apply to next week. Like that is our top for which is kind of crazy. Assuming it's not you know Sp but I guess we'll see okay. Well did you say after the elimination to me like not that much going on? No you know. It's sad to see Widow go but like I think it was her time and I think that they sent her up pretty well so I think pretty well but I also think that they definitely through a little dirt on the coffin on the way out the door because they showed her like quote unquote giving up which I don't think she was giving up. I think she was pissed off When she was getting criticism from the judges and I felt like the editors went out of their way to make sure that we at home felt righteous. In the fact that widow had gone home like they WanNa make sure that we wrote came with the fact. That would've gone home because let's be real. She's a front runner for a while and then for her not win and not even make the top four and not even make three honest top six. Yeah I I think that they probably equally as stunned as we were and they wanted to make sure that we were not rioting in the streets. Yeah I guess that's true. There was a little bit. Did go off a little bit of this self defeatist attitude. But the you're right. They did emphasize especially the throwing the arms up. Or maybe because it was. Heidi was talking about it. But of course editor shows to include that part of my thought though and I had this thought throughout the entire episode was. I think this is a very sherry pie. Heavy episode especially based on the results of the challenge like Cherry Pie and Terry Mizzou like look exactly the same And so I kind of feel like some of the editing was kind of making for that so there might be some. I don't know maybe some weird stuff in there here and there but whatever. Let's jump into the next day in the workroom where we get our Maxi Challenge. Which is the superfan makeover at now. Amman they did this really cool thing early. I thought it was cool. Where they put the super fans or we're GONNA be made over kind of in a separate area and said Oh you're just going to be in the audience and then tricked them when they brought them into the room. So I mean maybe I'm putting on my hat okay but I always questioned the validity of shit like this because you have to sign some sort of released when you agree to go on television and I feel like I feel like there has to be something extra that you're signing if you're also agreeing to potentially have your appearance changed or obviously it took place over multiple days so. I feel like and like all day over multiple days. Yeah like I I thought maybe maybe they were able to be a little Like maybe admitted some things like they sort of like skated around was actually going on and skated around the truth. But I have to imagine that they had to know that there was. It wasn't just that they were going to be audience members because it was just so much that they committed to in a short period of time. Let me just live in my fantasy world. Amman it's definitely real will lose. I thought it was also finding say. Put little audience labels on them. Which now that I'm thinking about it. That's kind of like you know when you're telling a lie and Kinda like add extra onto it to make the lie believable. Maybe that's what they were doing here with a little audience tags. This reminded me of Big Brother Canada when those people got under the show. Instead of our beloved Kirsten McGinnis and then they said that they were out of the audience and they've gotten selected and how believable was that? Lie So no. I wasn't buying this at all and I was like yeah. I think what happened was they probably told these people you know. Yeah there's there's a chance you could be in an episode of drag race and because you to sign releases and stuff like that like I mean. There's all sorts of things that go into something like this and then a new. Maybe they needed. They thought that they were like Like a fifty fifty shot like it's damning like there's another group of six but then they were surprised to learn that it was just then. I think I think that's possible. Don't they knew that they were going to be the ones that were chosen? But I think maybe they didn't even know what the the episode was going to entail. I would totally believe that. Maybe they lied about like. Oh Yeah you get the chance to be on the show you get. You get a chance to meet the Queen's and be like An audience for a specific competition and then Lo and behold you walk into the workroom and then you are the competition so I would definitely believe I mean I mean they have to get it. Ok'd from these people ahead of time there. Okay being apart of drag race Getting into drag and having a drag makeover like and some people may not want to do that. Some people may not want to look silly on camera. I know that drag race fans by and large would but there's always people who are naysayers and you never know they can't tape something like this and then one of the people is like actually. I don't really feel comfortable doing this because of X Y and Z. My job my husband my my kids some whatever and then have to go back and reshoot something like they got this approved ahead of time so they had to know something anyway. That's the magic of Y'all just no okay. Well I'll living my magical by. We do. Get our wonderful Contestants here I don't really call them but There are super fans that are going to be made over. We have Bethany. Brace Janet the planet Nicole Shea who lay number two and tiffany so there was some discussion. I know online which I which I had I had not heard about and then watch the episode had like lots of fun and then when I was watching readings in the commentary people. Some people were upset that there were women that were chosen to be made over like super fans and I was like why don't really get Yeah so I don't know I just WANNA throw it out there that whatever. I'm not even I don't even like I don't even know what to make of those comments because this was just so fund me and I'm really happy with the women that they chose the show. Yeah and it was like it was the whole thing was super fans and game in. Aren't the only people that watch this show like? Yeah I'm on you know there's definitely a segment of the population. And you know like I'm not exactly the most absolutely progressive of the gay population. So like I understand these people coming from although I think they're fucking idiots The thing that drag is specifically for gay men and that it's always been for game and and it's just our little thing and they are very exclusive about it. They are not inclusive about it and of course we do not agree with that and drag. It's so fun to watch. These women have the time of their lives getting into drag revealing. Who they are. And if you can't recognize that you're just a little backwards and come on the program not little ally like these that come to your shows and give you money so that you can do this damn shit so if you want to give them a damn makeover real quick let it be like insane to me. It's it's drag. It's not that serious right. You're not what was it? It was during the presidential proposal. So good yeah. Plus they've made over family members before so is like at a well. Gene gets to do the pairing here so she pecks Bethany And then crystal. I don't know if this matters crystal gets Grace Sherry Pie gets Janet Planet Heidi Nicola. Dj gets shake. Who Lay number two and Jackie? It gets tiffany And it was just. It was so wonderful to see the super fans there. Because that's one hundred percent. Would I would be like I think it was a crystal Methods Girl Grace. Who was like on the verge of tears because she was so excited one hundred percent would have been me but anyway we get a lot of workroom stuff this episode. So I don't know if there's anything. Amman that you WANNA touch on from all of our work realme shenanigans. Here I mean Rupaul. Death this is on the end of the episode but I think Jada did a pretty good job here I feel like she matched everybody up With somebody that was matching their energy and every all of them were very excited to be there and I was happy. I was surprised at first that she didn't choose. Aren't we getting Superfan? Sam's I'm surprised to hear that she didn't choose the woman because as far as makeup was concerned. That can be a bit of a challenge. if you're not used to using paint that's not of your shade But I'm glad that I'm glad that if she wasn't going to get her then she did. At least give her to hide so. Heidi wouldn't have to worry about The makeup at least But I think I'll side of that like she did a pretty good job of matching everybody up. I think everybody was kind of perfect. Yeah I'm angry about that. I'm I'm also forgetting the names. I know you said then Leon while I'm talking. Do you think that you could type them in our little skype chat? Because I forget like I mean I remember Tiffany Whiz. I remember that's all I remember exactly. I remember Janet the planet with Sherry Pie. And I remember. I remember a tiffany with our girl. Jackie but everyone else. It was just like who are you again. I love you but who are you getting all right? We got it. Yes yes you're welcome. I don't have I have. They're dragging and later. It's okay I can remember. Actually I remember the Dragon US far more than I do. They're they're real names. Yeah because they called. They called them more by their drag names by their real names. Especially because how do you forget snacky Cox else Makiko like the grow could do the splits? I was impressed I know she was living in Ohio. She was yes. We'll talk about it. Well we get. Oh my God. Yeah we get gee-gee with furry helmets. Which as soon as I saw the helmets more hat. Yeah here we go. I think one of the biggest stories here is really Janet the planet which I know we talked about a little bit before But you know especially if you're the workroom we get her talking to Rupaul. Talking about being six foot tall and the practice she legally changed her name to Janet the planet. I mean she just seems like such an interesting person and I kind of wish even though we got to know her. I wish we'd gotten to know her even more. Yeah that's insane to me. Actually I think somebody that's a fan of our show. She's a fan of our sap. I think I saw a tweet during the episode that she actually used to work with Janet. The PLANET'S I'll have to ask her about About Janet but yeah she seems to be the most well-versed in not just drag race but the art of drag itself. And my what a shitty deal that ended up being for her and that she was the one that was paired with Sherry pilate. She's the reason that by even got screen time like if it wasn't for her like they would have just been going about their business as usual when it comes to editing her out but yeah I thought I really did find her very compelling to the point where I actually was like. Can we just replace her? We place area with our because I'd be much more invested in her as a competitor. Yeah she was great I agree. She was so intriguing to me. I just wanted to spend more time with her. I think that literally the people that produce drag race could do something with Janet the planet on a Web series. I would totally sign up for it and watch it. She had such a vibrant fun personality and she seems totally comfortable in her own skin. But you also feel like that. She's a bit of an old soul who wasn't always comfortable in your own skin. Which I in some ways can identify with like I. I love people like that but if face their demons and come out stronger for it in the end yeah seem very very like while. She was excited to be there. She wasn't like in your face like it was very like. Oh I'm so excited to be here everything about all of you guys. I'm so supportive of all of this. I cannot wait to get dressed up. It's going to be so fine. If we ever need superfan impression we know who to go to perfectly capsule but I love it. Yeah no Franky Granada for sure. Perfect the perfect sleeper fan. Yeah I thought it was. I think the other sort of main story that we get here is with us. Heidi's of superfan Nicole and sort of talking about her insecurities and I was really great especially with the work through where ru says you know. You're not born to blend and you're born to stand out and this concept of drag bringing joy I thought was just really cool like a mon- you said this the beginning of the episode but this episode was kind of a warm heart fell episode all the way around episodes packed with a lot of emotion and I was. I was kind of shocks that we did get to see as much content from the super fans as we did because sometimes when we have makeover episodes they don't really focus too much on The people that are getting made over They focused they just tend to focus more about the queen's and what their perspective is but we damn near got pretty much confessionals from these super fans and that it was just gave a lot more context To the competition and to just like totally took you out of the competition a bit like because Heidi sort of had to have two jobs in this episode. She not only had to be drag race contestant but she also had to be a bit of a therapist when it comes into coal and like sort of like trying to meet in the middle with her and I don't know if I'm jumping the gun a little bit when I when I mentioned this. Heidi does actually share the make the make overlook intended on bringing to the competition So I guess that they told them all that they were doing makeovers like any other competition and she had everything set up but of course because Nicole was a little bigger I'll put that she brought was not going to fit her. So that's why I mike when I said that this episode has a happy ending a sort of like I kind of sympathize situation because she brought stuff but she couldn't use it because of the way that production ended up. You know handling the show so I was happy that she was able to get one more chance at the very end so okay. Yeah I didn't know that I mean I kind of made the assumption that that was the case but we can talk about with some of the judging comments too. I just thought that was really well handled kind of the way that they did the whole thing. So all right. Is there anything else you WanNa talk about before we just jump into the runway jumping? Let's jump okay. Daisy Ridley was our guest judge who is a huge fan Which I didn't know I thought that was cool and I thought she did a pretty good job as our guest stretch this. I love daisy literally. Every time she came on the screen. Daisy daisy really fan. I'm so I'm a big star. Wars Fan I think Brent is too so it was great to see this like Sort of crossing over of worlds and I think that she also was a little similar to me Nicki Minaj and that she was a little bit more cerebral than I thought that she was going to be. She seems to really really watched these queens and really offer up some thoughtful and insightful critiques. I was happy that disability was asked to be a part of this episode. Yes there's no one who is more of a fan of busy Ridley than me. Only because I remember the excitement that I felt after watching star wars episode seven in what I thought could have happened to her character. Obviously I hated episodes. Eight and mostly nine nine was okay but I didn't love what they did with her character in particular. I don't love where they took care of drove her all. So I in some ways. I have like some Unrequited FEELINGS FOR DAISY. Ridley of what? I could have been so watching her on this episode of Drag Race and getting to know her a little bit more even when she was not necessarily in line with the panel. I thought it was a lot of fun Yeah yeah I thought it was good and I thought that her I mean just general. Being excited fat built the fit with the whole team episode because authentic exactly yes. It didn't feel put on definitely felt. Okay Brent tell me all about Heidi Aphrodite. Eighty and honey almighty first of all if there's going to be a name that sticks other than Heidi in closet. This is the one I love this name. I like boy. This works. Heidi effort eighty. And I'm the huge fan of Mira Sorvino. She wanted to Oscar for Mighty Aphrodite. If you don't know the reference and I love the fact that their spelling it A. F. R. O. Because obviously the original mighty Aphrodite e which refers to the I don't know Vista Roman Goddess. Or The I forget great. Thank you okay goddess of love and. I've never got a straight by the way but yes I love this name and I loved this pairing but my goodness when they walked out on the runway. I was like where is the family resemblance and they were giving her so much. Praise in the beginning during the judging. I thought for sure they weren't going to say anything. I thought that it was just going to be like we love you. You're amazing how he you're great and Nicole you're fabulous you're working at girl we love you. And then that's it but they. They gave her all of that and then they said now. Let's talk about the family resemblance and then I was like thank you because they're saying well they're saying what we are all are thinking at which is this doesn't look remotely from the same house of drag. I mean what is this like? I thought that she should have been in the bottom for the design of the outfits alone and obviously it makes more sense. Amman after you said what you said because you know you know for instance Cherry Pie doesn't just happen to have to tearoom Assu or whatever the hell outfits in her bag on accident like she knew they were going to do a makeover challenge so she brought those kind of things with her but something like this where Heidi has to use of outfits or materials that are not from some stuff that she previously bought are brought with her is is a part of the reason why we get some uneven results at the end of this challenge with regard to these two. But I'm really glad that the judges called it out because it did not look like there was any resemblance whatsoever not even makeup wise. Yeah the fan was interesting to see. How highly was gonNA affair with this family resemblance? Because she's had I struggle with her makeup. Its entire time that it's by her. She doesn't even know what she looks like she's creating. She's like recreating and experimenting with her own makeup throughout the entire competition. By the time you have to get to somebody else to do the same thing. It's like it's going to be you're still in experimental stages of is going to be a little bit different So it definitely came across and I so I while I sympathize with the look. Sort of like. She her having to rearrange things. Because it's not what she intended. What she did show on. Twitter wasn't what she wore either so I don't understand the choice that she made in like dousing herself in sequins and then giving Nicole pretty much adorable to wear is either. Both of you are going to be wearing sequence or both of you are going to be wearing dailies like if you're not going to be together in the face you at least need to be together in the clothes. And she looks pretty like The the worst part about this to me was that Heidi looked like the pretty sister because of the because of the secret mcgown and then like like that. Nicole wasn't getting the same amount of treatment. I wish they'd been a little bit more honest on the runway about it. Like why do you have your partner now looking as good as you Heidi? That's what I wanted them to say. Right yeah yeah I think it was challenging because her partner honey or was hurt. Nicole was dealing with those insecurities and it's so hard because the as okay like I'm just putting myself in the judges see I wanna Critique Heidi so how do I make it come across as I'm critiquing. Heidi and not honey. And it's a really sort of fine line to walk and I think that's part of the reason why you know. The critiques went away. They went for Heidi and honey because of that whole situation but I completely agree when they walked out I was like what am I looking like? Okay the hair looks sort of similar makeup. I thought actually looked sort short of similar at least in a passable way but to me the outfits were very very very very very different And so like you said on Mon. If she is going to have to scramble and find something else then it seems like an odd choice to be so incredibly distinct unless that was maybe like the only thing that she could do. You could tell them on that. Rupaul was annoyed by calling out. Heidi about like. Where did the time go like? What did you do that was roof roof being funny about it but Ruas pissed? Yeah Yeah and I was. I was talking about this with a roommate as we're watching too because if you tell them ahead of time that there's going to be a makeover challenge right and you allow them to bring Similar looks for that week. How much time are you actually giving them I? I'm not saying that there was no time. I was like a piece of me. Wondered if Rupaul was giving Heidi a harder time than it was appropriate to because if you're allowing them to bring stuff ahead of time which is exactly what all the rest of them dead than did they really. How much time did any of them spending anything besides talking? I think that's a valid critique. I think though the problem was is that Heidi's answer was I got to know her and we talked about disco. Andrew was like yeah. I know I learned that in the walk through the if Heidi's response had been Well we had to come up with the concept. I couldn't use the outfits that I had brought Blah Blah Blah. I don't know if there had been maybe more. I don't know like realistic answer. But also at the same time you have honey who really has some insecurity and you don't want to say on the runway like hey I couldn't use the outfit because like she's a different size like to point out on the runway might be really hard and if Heidi is trying to have empathy for honey. It's hard to to do that so I think it's a really tight rope to walk. Yeah it was But the gap the gap and the T- thing though now that I'm leaving they really have. Yeah it was like Oh see. That's like a totally easy won. Miss that I think I can understand like getting some serious critiques for so especially when we have such a amazing top sex that we're dealing with it. It does come down to those little details. Which is kind of what happens with the jockey and snacky car so. It's not that Jackie. I think. Did something inherently wrong It's just maybe it's not up to snuff. Compared to some of the other looks that we see on the runway this week. I'm on it was. It's not it's it's serviceable. You know what I mean. Ever since I've heard Brent use it all the time but it's like I I think the they did they will great from the neck up you know and I definitely see a bit of a family resemblance. I feel like some of the of the of the little. I don't go with makeup terminology but the stuff around the is. I could see what she was doing there and I mean she really lucked out and getting the partner that she did because I think she's probably like the most charismatic out of any of them. I mean maybe with the exception of Janet Planet she was just like so ready to just dive in and I think that her energy really helped sell what might not be a particularly stellar. Look but because the energy was I mean because of the fact that we are so down to the wire it's still going to like not end up working Jackie's favor but I feel like if this Philip if this were if this competition taking place a little earlier in the competition. I wonder if Jackie would still be in the bottom Brad. What did you think about Jackie and snacky this week boy? I did not care for this. I thought this was worse than what they were giving them credit for. I thought that the drag looked really small really small like there was nothing big in fun about it like she was in like a waitress cocktail dress. Like there wasn't a lot to it. It was what Rob Ross said. Where Yeah like. I said I do not believe it was good. But if you'RE GONNA go with with the thought that it's good in was good everything else or everyone else was trying to be great and I really felt like Jackie. Just mailed it in here like okay a pantsuit and cocktail dress. That's what you're doing for your family resemblance and like I thought that the hair actually was the worst part of it. The hair looks like helmet hair. It looks like it's literally been sprayed with aqua net and frozen in place. There's no body or moving. I don't even particularly care for the shape of it like we always talk about how G G has like helmets. But this look like helmet hair like kick look good. The makeup I don't think is even close And I don't even I really don't think it is Maybe around the is a little bit but like I don't feel like they look. I feel like the the I make up shadow on. Jackie is so much heavier then. What is on what's her name. I'm looking tiffany and the the outlets while there is a little bit of mirroring with the color line it. It doesn't quite do it for me. Because the because the outfits are dissimilar like in order for for mirroring to work outfits have to be the same shape of the same size like where Sherry pies like red and gold and golden red and in there the same type and you you look at them and you get it But this I again. I thought she looked like I thought it looked like Jackie was the rich sister and it looked like tiffany was the less fun less sexy one. Is anyone else getting not now? All I can see his helmet hair on smacky so like that. Not One hundred percent agree with. I think there's a little bit more I guess they do the kind of look like second cousins. They are family but a little bit more distant the Bengals or the am earrings look very similar. The nails of the same To I can see the cheek about the show being a little bit heavier on jockey but the pattern and the color palettes look this. Am I do wonder if how much Okay so. Let's say you know you're going to have to make somebody over and you don't know exactly the size. That person is going to be. Maybe your outfit. Decisions are sort of influenced by that. So maybe Jackie was like Oh. This is an outfit. Because it's shorts so you can easily Taylor the length of the shorts if needed or the like. There's some reason for that also. Sorry I thought it was. I thought it was. I thought it was a Like miniskirts shorts shorts. She does a split. You're right you're right. I'm sorry I forgot about that. Well whatever I still I still hate it. It doesn't matter if it's shorts or not. That's even worse. You're wearing shorts. On the on the runway of rupaul. Drag race. I mean so. So did you think than a man that these two were the clear bottom to looks with Heidi. Jackie being in the bottom two. I unfortunately I really think that there could have been a case made for g g because if you WANNA talk about mailing it and that's straight up late in that's like I mean I guess it was kind of smart on her end in a way because she created such a big look no matter what size somebody was it. Was it probably would fit most people but there was nothing to that. Look I mean even the makeup was just like okay like like I didn't I didn't get it. I didn't get it from cheeky. I ever did get something from Jackie from the neck up because I take the critique about the offense I do The helmet hair. I don't necessarily see because whenever queens go like seventies look the always go for this helmet here like I remember Valentino or something similar on season nine and got such praise from the judges for it like with the same kind of wig so like I just thought that was just like seventy dragway in my mind So I didn't. I didn't take any offense to that but I mean in A. I guess you'd like I said before when it's down to the wire like this. I can see why she was placed in the bottom so I think we said that these were the two bottom pairs I we can. We might as well just talk about next if you're okay with that. I am annoyed about the judging and the way things went at the end of this because gee-gee was fourth here. She was in the bottom okay. She was clearly in my eyes. The number three out of one two three at the bottom and route called her safe right away which is going to lead her to believe that there were four tops and bottoms. No bitch you were in the bottom and I hope that after watching this episode back. She realizes that she was in the bottom once again. 'cause it doesn't annoy me like. I feel like they really gave her a pass. I love the fact that God. What's her face the Star Wars on the panel? Daisy Ridley. Sorry. I blanked under neighbor second. I love that. She basically admitted to being pressured to go along with the panel. And she's still wouldn't she was like I guess. It's like an unpopular opinion. But I was not a big fan of this and then you have. Ross just like defending it to no end wine. Yeah I just loved you. Good they're still sucking her dick so whatever. I I I apparently she can do to run like like I said ru even called her safe like they didn't even make her sweat at the end. Which is what I wanted. I wanted them to make sweat again and realize hey there are people who are doing better than you in in the competition. Right now isolated. As far as the looks go t G. I think the makeup is smart and the outfits are smart but this is like the equivalent of the kid in grade school who turns in a blank piece of paper when asked for an essay answer by the teacher and then says actually that was my answer because yeah the world means nothing like you know like okay like. That's smart but yet I'm still annoyed by it so I completely agree. It did. Give me a very much Alaska. Allstars season two vibes. Maybe just because it was black and white but it was like this very much feels like you're phoning at end like what what what is going like. Okay the makeup skills I get it like G G is gorgeous but I think it was Jada who even said like Shi'as Gorgeous so you put a gorgeous girl and make up. She's GonNa look gorgeous like that's the way that that works so i. I really really wish that they had made it clear that she was in the bottom here on especially considering what everybody else bribe especially considering what she said. Last week they showed that to us for a reason and then it was like they're going to give her a pass gorgeous. Omega remember number she said last week I will not be in the bottom again and yet she was and we got no payoff for that whatsoever. Yes she should have been in the bottom here. I mean the bottom to necessarily to the bottom right to the bottom just like come on. That's not fair that you can get away with this now. She talked a little bit and talked about how we were. I was hoping that this would be you know my mom and I would get to do this together but I think she was prepared regardless or whomever it like this outfit would work. I'm like pretty much anybody so anyway. Fine g good and bb bad. Also with I I. They were going Gaga over. That and I was like that's just so on the nose. I feel sick. I really boring. I wouldn't remember he's recapping. He likes stuff like this. Okay you love what you love him on my heart. It was stupid but like I chuckle and I like that kind of stuff. I was watching the episode with me and he was like. Oh my God. She's going to be bad and then when that was the name she's like I so called Rue says. Don't try and reinvent the wheel. You know like just comment. The best answer is the the the most common so yes. That's right the wheel is fine. Now let's take a break to your word from our sponsors and we are back. Well let's jump back to Jada and jazz essence hall of the Essence Hall family and Jada ended up winning this week. Did you think that this was deserved? Yes and I was really glad it didn't go to Sherry Pi. Yeah I was really worried. There was going to go to Sherry Pie and because remember the time that they take all this. They didn't know what was happening with Sherry pilot. They could have given her the wind and the Queen's would have been fine with it and they would have celebrated and like we would've felt really icky at the end of the episode. I felt like this was the clear winner and I was nervous that they wouldn't give her the wind because she got the win last week. And it's often on repulsed drag race that they give people back to back wins and she is FAA nominal. She is amazing. Jada I stand you like I. I swear to God Jacob when the season she better win because she is absolutely amazing the fact that she can take a girl who looks so unlike her yes. She's pretty but but she doesn't look like her she's a white girl and at that she is an unsteady white girl who has never really walked in heels. Very much. Didn't really like them. Kinda thought Jada the entire way to the point where these queens had a ladies within who were like Adam here I wanna live. My fantasy in. Jada wasn't getting that and I'm sure she might have regretted her choice a little bit at the beginning where her her partner was a little. Bit more introspective and you know had opinions of her own. Wanted to make those opinions known. Jada is a firm Queen where she was like no. We're doing it this way. This is how you gotTa do. And if you're if you're worried about it then you're already defeated like Jada doesn't come from the school of Quito. Von Do where they asked what? Oh why were you wearing the biscuits every week? And she was like I was just prepared in case I needed to lip sync. I wanted to be able to dance and they were like. You're preparing to fail. Jada does not prepare to fail. She came to win. She shoots for the stars and I like like if she was playing a reality show like not like a competitive reality. Show like Big Brother or survivor. She would be like the the Tony because she would be a big baller player. She wants to go out there and absolutely kill each and every time she doesn't care if she becomes a bigger and bigger target. This was phenomenal because I couldn't believe she made this and not only that for the makeup to look as good as it does with the whigs skills that she has to make. That look like seriously. How do you make this white bitch look like how they just phenomenal to me? I'm sorry I keep using. That word phenomenal. Because she's just so amazing in the fact that she was basically our narrator throughout this entire episode and giving US opinions on everybody else and telling us about her struggles with their own superfan and she was also like. I'm like the drag queen to the super fans because I'm babysitting them. Your welcomes like. She's so funny I just she can do no wrong in my eyes. I can't wait to see her win this. I'm I'm just picturing Jada up in a tree in her spine. Gee Tony compare out on my mind. Well how did you feel about eight this week? Okay so I think that the week. I don't know if she won this challenge. Definitely in the top definitely should be commended. For the fact that yes you gotta you gotTa chocolate woman and you gotTa Vanilla woman standing next to each other and you can still see the resemblance and the fact that we got to see so much of her coaching Bethany through this. And like you said Brent like she was like no. We are doing this too well and she did not let up like Bethany was like I don't know about these hills and like I feel like if it were any other queen they might have let their superfan Taco a making them all the way with with their with their vision by Jada was like no. No no no no no no I chose you. You're going to do this. I know that there's something deep inside of you. That has it and you were not no. Let's let's let's get our shit together and I loved that because I was like you would think. Oh superfan you WANNA take it easy on them. They didn't sign up for this like you did. Well actually no. They did sign up for this. I'm sure it's not something back. They're saying like when they get made over so be prepared. So you're you're here. We'll make the best of it so I believe that Jada was the star of this episode. Yes I read the whole the whole little bit about her babysitting kids and talking to the other super fans and trying to make sure they had a great experience. I liked that because I like that. She was about her business but she also was able to recognize. I mean these are just normal people that are on the show with us to have it. They're going to have a good time. Let's let's let's show them a good time so I think that she had a fantastic edit and I. I'm not complaining about her winning because what it does now is tied up with Digi good and makes things interesting for the end of the area. And I don't know I like I said I don't know if she won this for me but I I'm not mad that she did. I think I agree with Amman a little bit more. I Love Jada and I want her to win this season. Like if you made me pick somebody right now. That needs to win Rupaul. Xdrive grace this season like Jada is the first name that would come out of my mouth because the fact that she like rent like you said was able to make this way bitch look like her is absolutely amazing and not only that but Jada 's attitude just makes me so happy inside Jada is i. Will you know I'm like pick going to pick myself up like we're GONNA work through this? We got this. We're GONNA do this and the appreciation that she gave for you know being able to make over the super fans and be there and be supportive is just phenomenal out of this world like I absolutely love it and of course like the looks this week. Gorgeous makeup gorgeous. She is gorgeous however who I think should have won this week and I'm curious if you and I have the same thoughts Was Crystal Method because I think the fact that crystal did this frigging gender. Flip of Bert and Ernie look is insane. Like there's something so incredibly artistic about what she did. This week that for me I think pushes her a little bit over the edge and I think I would have given the win this week to Saul not dead. Chill okay. I'm on Yes. I agree one hundred thousand. I don't give it to the weird queen this week. Give her her coins. She absolutely deserved it. She took it outside of the box. But it wasn't to outside of the box that you will like. What fucking box is this. You understood immediately. What she was going for the makeup it look and people were in the. I'm not sure which one is crystalline. Which one is is is OPAL and I. I agree like you couldn't tally. Because the makeup is so heavy it works. I mean you had a gender flipped Ernie and Bert. Two people that are considered to be iconic. Lgbt characters but not entirely because it's never been confirmed to the fact that she was able to just you know what let me just have own interpretation of them? It's just like these. These are the iconic lgbt characters that we know and love. And I'M GONNA give it to you in this special point of view. I love the fact that she that their faces were Were painted and I love the fact that their arms were fabric. All of the jewelry all of the all of the details the flannel the CI. Like how did she find those shirts? How she does are the exact same colors that burden. Ernie wear everything was perfect and I just the way they committed to it on on stage and everything. I just something that you did. Not Expect and compete. She delivered and it was clear and concise. There was sustained and it was. It was a point of view that you don't often see and yeah maybe you don't always want to give it to the word coming. This show has sometimes it has issues with giving. Shits Weird Queens. We just crowned award winner. So maybe all weeded out. And they're looking for the next best thing which I don't know why though Biji good or whatever. I just feel like this is like this. That was dragged that was ultimate drag this week and she. I think she clearly deserved the win. This time around rants yeah. I can't agree with that and I respect you guys'll opinion and it's fine. It's fine. I thought she was clearly three a three. I thought she was in the top but she was number three for me and this is the reason why because he didn't read his drag to me. It read as costume. And maybe you don't care that there's in my is a difference between those two but I think there is a noticeable definable difference between a Halloween costume and drag and this felt like Halloween costume with the makeup. It did not feel like it took in. Don't come for me. The same amount of effort that Jada essence hall that makeup skills with her queen to make her look like she came from the same family without plastering it onto her. I I thought that was foreign above. What crystal method was doing here and I also take issue with the fact that a mom was like you clearly know what's going on here obviously not because Ross had to ask what the fuck am I looking at so. I don't think that that's necessarily true. The in a good way away fun. Yeah I'm again. I'm not coming for him. It's not like the failed the challenge. They did amazingly well. I had a great time with it. And it's not. I also take issue with the fact that I'm onsite. Well it's outside the box. But it's not so so far outside the like no hunting down the block off the street to the check cashing place like this is like so far away from the box into universe. But it's still fun. It's just that I don't think it's the winter and that's okay like I felt like this to me. This was okay. They were applauding crystal. For sever than always saying you know what we say when you come on rebels drag race to show us who you are but I also felt like this was the easy thing for crystal to do something like this to do the heavy or clown real that she veers too sometimes which to be fair. She has been getting away from in recent weeks. And we've been loving from her so I guess I'm GonNa stand her because she is a queen of makeup skills and can basically do anything. But I wasn't as impressed by you guys but I still loved it. I think for me it okay. Do you guys ever have like? Sometimes you see a piece of our work in a museum or in a store or something and you're like I don't know why I love this and I can't stop staring at it. Let's feel about this. I can understand where you're coming from with the like. What is the you know the the line between something that is maybe more on the costume side versus more in the drag world. But for me I love the art of this and I love the fact that she was able to contour different colors of yellow or different colors of orange like that is a drag makeup. I think is super impressive of DASS. It is amazing to me the fact that I didn't even notice before that the arms are covered with cloth like Burton. Ernie that is so fucking. Coal don't thinks of something like that. So just unshirkable audacity alone like I understand why she's challenging for the win here again for me. I would've gone with Jada but I wouldn't be mad if this was the winter. If that's what they ended up going West but they would have. I felt like if she was going to be the winner they they would have needed to give me a few more editing. I knew she wasn't the winner. By the way the entity was going Which in some ways. I'm kind of a little bitter about because I would have liked like I basically knew it was between Cherry Pie. Jada I was like basically at the end I was like thank God. It's not cherry pie like I wasn't quoting the fact that crystal wasn't amongst the top. Yeah Yeah I really just thought that. It was a feast. You know what I mean like. I just thought it was just so much to chew on and it was just. It was just an invigorating and yeah I mean it sure. It's a little bit on the costume side but crystal method is on the cost side. And that's that's a if there was if there was anything that she was going to do to make somebody else over. I would never have thought that it would be you know what I mean because while because a wild Jada did a fantastic job. It's I I don't remember it. The way that I remember Kristal Kristof his job and the same thing for Sherry Pilic Cherry Pie. Did a fantastic job with that makeup because that did not Janet it did not look like Cherry pies a little sister. It really did so. She did a fantastic job is as far as family resemble respond. Resemblance goes but I just think that crystal sort of took that extra step that none of the other queens dead and I just that's setting it apart from me. Yeah I mean it's definitely outside of the box or the sesame street I guess and just as a as a no before we talk about Cherry Pie briefly Mike Bloom did message me. And he said if we ever do a live. Rha P. B. NBC show. We are dressing like this. My mic also apparently vary like also the fact that crystal meth that had such a great partner in grace where she was just living her life out there. A lot of the other bitches. I think would not have been so enamored about being like painted like Burr from burner. You know what I mean like. I don't think of them would have been like so hip to this. Probably biased for that too like I. I fucking loved Sesame Street as a kid like I was sess too so I'm sure that has a little bit to all this too. I'm the Disney game. Loved Sesame Street Street of it no I do. I do wonder if that had been me like. What would my reaction have bank? I was waiting for that. A little nervously of you know of grace of and like what the fuck. Why am I DRAG? Queen? I'm looking like I look like a clown. But nope she didn't do that okay. Well let's talk about Cherry Pie and Terry Mitsu brand. Because they did look as a mom pointed out exactly the same show alike. I couldn't tell who was who came out and I really couldn't tell who share and WHO's not. I really couldn't. I literally had to like okay. Wait that's Sherry right okay. Yeah that's Sherry. I took me a second. They were so amazing. I I hate giving Cherry Pie props. And we don't have to spend very much time and her by God. Dance looked good. She gave Janet the planet all the family resemblance in the world. And I really thought for a moment that she might be the winner. It was that talent right there to have to be able to do that to somebody's face and just completely transform their image that way And they had like a little stick as well with being waitresses and having the little props on stage with them And you know during the walk through really stress to her that she registers as old and how it's important for sort of shed that image and I didn't really get. I didn't get old from the two of them. You know what I mean. I definitely got older time on which is signature. Cherry Pie AS Roma's point out but I didn't get old when they came down. I got you know too late in the diner taking orders and they looked related that you nailed it so if she did a good job yeah. They looked related in the sense that they look like identical twins. That's that's the one comment that I will give like. I really honestly could not could not tell them apart. Yeah okay so the superfan lip sync is what we get next. Which I thought was kind of like it was fine. I gotTA ZONE OUT DURING IT. But the women looked like they were having fun. Which is Great Opel seriously killed it like it was a little bit like. Oh Sean tell you all stay so. Mary said that I was like Oh. They're not eliminating like oh they're just talking about the super fans. Oh my God Ida frontex that was like hey like let me know as soon as you watched the episode and so when this started the lifting start if they do shenanigans where like the superfan lip syncs and like somebody goes home because of the Superfan or something I was prepared by like some twist turns out it was just a double saying it was like all right. Yeah exactly like it would've died okay. Well Gina wins the challenge here. Which like you guys pointed out her third win which girl and then we have the lip sync between Heidi and Jackie Amman. How did you feel like this? Do you think that I don't know? How did you feel about this whole thing? I thought it was good. Sometimes with these double Sean Hayes. And they don't they don't happen often but the thing that worries me about them is like somebody the clear winner here and because of the fact of how scheduling works. This is going to be a double Shaun tait anyway. But now it's bad because somebody should clearly should have gone home and you just had some sort of like edited the best that you could but I didn't get that vibe. I WANNA see felt like the two of them. Approach this lipstick from two different point of views. I mean you guys Jackie in the comedy routine which sometimes get a registered as like a bit of a cop out or as like you either do too much and it's like okay like this is just. You're not taking this seriously. I think she did a good job. And you know Heidi's a dancing queen so she's always going to turn it out but I think that it was a pretty levelly matched lip sync. So I kind of saw the Double Sean. Payton coming. A bit of it has to do with new. How a new where. The finale was supposed to land. So we're going to hold up. The numbers aren't adding up. Something's GonNa but something's about to happen but it wasn't like I wasn't able to tell I was I was like seriously like wondering who the fuck is going to go home because the two of them are really neck and neck right now. Yeah I could tell. I'll I think that Amman's right. It was built into the episode whenever you have this kind of an amazing song as the lift sink. The show is preparing because they know that there are just certain songs like drag Queens are always going to kill and this was killed by both of them they were really really good And I knew instantly once. They told Heidi that she was safe. I knew the Jackie was also saved because they gave Jackie that preys on the judging panel when Michelle was like she was like Freaking Gilda. Radner up there like. They wouldn't let that in if they were about to eliminate her so you knew the Jackie was saying I was just waiting for Rupaul to say it they also did it in a different way. Usually rawls like Shanta. You both stay but this time. She was like Heidi you stay. Jackie girl it's been fun. We liked your magic tour and we're about to get a little bit more of it because you stay like I. I enjoyed that very much. Yeah I guess he did it to like really Shaker. You wanted to ask you to really feel the pressure of it all because she just been in the bottom already so yeah I was still living in my fantasy world where I thought that the super fans had no idea there being made over so I was like Oh. She's going to go home because even they had the hug. Where Heidi you got to walk all the way to the back and like you guys harder about you know. They did the whole thing it was like. Oh that's so then. Of course it was a you know a non elimination. I think was a lot of fun because of the sort of two different approaches. The one thing I could not stop staring out though. It was high eighty with those sleeves when she was like windmilling them around. I thought that was so. She was trying to get her cocoa trees. Yeah that was that was. I couldn't stop staring at Heidi's WIG line. I kept like she was with the net hair around everywhere. I kept waiting for it to fall off the fact that she had that. Shit pinned and taped in there. So well girl. I give you major props for because I can't stand it when wigs fly up on the runway during the live sinks in the fact that she was working her ass off. But it's still sit on her head girl. You better work Completely agree and Jackie doing the humor. Like Gilda radner approach. I thought was also pretty fun. It made like a neat contrast with the two different approaches and for an Amazing Song. So here we are with a non elimination episode. We are still at our top six slash five and we will next week most likely be down to our top five slash four of which could be. Pretty Lake. Oh my God. I don't even know what to think or feel literally don't even know what's GonNa Happen Now. Like I feel like this was like a bit of a reset in my brain lake. Obviously not all of them are on the same playing field. But I honestly filling gets sort of anybody's game especially with what we know about Cherry Pie so this is actually I mean i. I was sort of bummed at the beginning of the season. Because like Oh my God this sherry politics like ruined everything but now that we know she's pretty much a non factor from here on out. I'm like This is interesting again. What's going to happen? Yeah and I agree with a like a such a solid group of girls it has. This has been a really fun season given what happened. Obviously really quickly. I do interrupt but Cherry Pie obviously not going to make the grand finale. So this is striking to me because we're at the top six and that means that two of Jackie. Heidi and crystal method are going to make the final four if they do a final four like that because Jerry. Pye Isn't there and so and somebody else isn't there so only one of them cannot be there. Two of them are going to be there if they do a top for those home next episodes. That's it I'm going to find a forest. I mean well. There's a part of are they going to do like a top three light you know like I could see Ruderman like fucked up top three but I really hope they do do a top four. It's kind of like really really up in the air because we don't even know what they're gonNA do in terms of filming because true that down so yeah I mean those. These are all like good points. Because let's let's work through it right so let's assume we lose someone next week and then we lose someone the week after so then. Does that group Agra before do they become the top three because like a month? You know you pointed out. We don't know what the finale is. GonNa look like unless any of you guys have any insight. I think Mike Bloom actually put up a poll. Awhile ago I don't know. Where does he tweets so much but it was like? What do you think is going to happen? Is it going to be an announcement? Do you think there's actually going to be some sort of lip sync competition? They don't know they don't know let's be like there's still like they're like us they're just like waiting for the world's reopened just like just pure speculation on my part but if I had to guess I would assume that they would probably follow the lead of other reality shows like survivor that are choosing to do Virtual Finales and so. They'll do that but I could see something like because virtual drag shows are all the rage nowadays because no one can go out to the clubs so I wouldn't be surprised if these queens that are in the in. The finale have a small team of people that get put together to create lift think performances Because gee-gee good was already doing that like as soon as the shutdown happened. I wouldn't be surprised if we get a final four. And they all independently create their own liftings. And then Rupaul like decides from there like I don't. I don't know interest. I don't know the so the ink masters. Apparently this is according to PIA on twitter. Inc Masters canceled their live finale. All three finalists received a cash prize. So I don't know if they would do something like an insane also are already came off the hills that Arthur ash and again. I don't do that shit again on that again. Yeah so I guess we'll just have to stay tuned It's possible could just like have them each do a lip sync like virtual of sink and then just name the winner like not not through a lip sync competition but just like you know to to quote Unquote Impress Roo. One last time and then name a winner like they did back through seasons one through eight well and that would make sense. They could do a top three right because then it doesn't have to be bracket you just play you eliminate Cherry Pie the final three. You do it that way. And then you have the winner announced. I could definitely see something like that but then. Oh yeah okay. Okay yeah the point yes. Yeah because if they do do the final four in but that was never mind never mind. Okay Yeah Okay Okay untucked. This week was boring so I don't know if anybody would say actually I didn't watch it again because again it taped after it's not. Dvr It's not taping untucked and I'm really annoyed about it because you re and a half hours. I don't know why it's because it's my my my. Dvr Is taping secret celebrity drag race but it for some reason it's not grabbing untucked. I don't know why it's not. It's drag race. Hello well next week. We get the mini challenge of puppets is back who think God so excited and our main challenge is going to be a one woman show with whoopie. Goldberg is our guest looking. Okay okay that it was how coincidental it was. That both Heidi Jackie war seventies outfits seventies lifting. Get your hat. People kids if they were like we have to make this team too so the two bitches of the disco outfits. You're going to be left singing right. Okay let's talk about secrets celebrity. Draw Grace Brian. How did you feel about this episode? This was a lot of fun. I didn't have as much fun as I did last week. With the three guys who were on the show but I still had a fantastic time. I couldn't believe it when Vanessa Williams walked out on again. I'm forty five years old so I was alive when Vanessa Williams was crowned the first black Miss America right was Miss America. Miss USA. I forget Yes Erica and I reserved on. Her crown was taken away from her. I remember being in the car with my mom and we heard the news on the radio. We were like you know. Traveling somewhere and they. They said her crown was taken away on the radio. And I was like why we knew that. Yeah and I'm almost like because they. They found these nudie pictures of her. And I'm like and like she won. How can they take it away from her? And no concept of the world at the time when I was eight years old but Yeah she she is the epitome of a good comeback because she lost everything and then came back stronger and has been giving us the best for last for the past twenty five years and we are loving her for it. So I love this Williams. Also I did see on her wikipedia page. It's been updated where they have all of her titles so mismatch missing. Orrick Missouri Cues America's next celebrity is right there at the top which I love I'm a mind. What did you think about this episode? I really enjoyed this episode. I made my heart warm then. All the contestants were black women older black men was a nice touch Lonnie love listen. I love her but I'm so appreciative. Of just how much emotion she was willing to share with us but she was going through something and it's episode soon in tears every other segment. I'm like what's going on Mama like. Are you okay like but she? She was clearly having an effect on her and I am glad that she was there. Felt like she really needed it. So I think that it is a much more Heartfelt and emotional more warm of an episode than the premier And I feel like they might be ramping it up. You know in terms of like the secret celebrity -ness of it all because I'm not as familiar with tammy roaming because I don't watch any. I don't watch basketball any of that. Yeah I do. I did know who she was So it looks like at least for me. I feel like they might be climbing Stare and how these how well knowing that celebrities are going to be because all three of these people. I was definitely more familiar with than last week. so it was. I thought I thought that it was really really cool. I thought that was just so. She wish her energy was so infectious. A love the fact that her and Eliza we're partners because I felt like they just they just felt like kindred spirit to me. She need a cocktail. All of that was just so funny. I take your point about Vanessa Williams. I'm also a bit of a Vanessa Williams Stan. I was first introduced to her through a little movie called Family Johnson Families Family vacation and I loved her in that and so I just yeah. It's just I felt like to actually have an idea of what the show was about. This one a little bit more smooth to me. I love the fact that they chose to do Larussa Coll- After that was a nice touch for the for the three of them as well. I just love this episode. All around I thought it was really really cool. Yeah I'm a Liana really quickly I Have I love Vanessa Williams but I loved her so much because I have an award show fan. You know how like I'm on is at Disney Stan. I'm like an award show Stan. I got an award show Gabe and so there was a time where Vanessa Williams was nominated for best supporting actress in a comedy series at the Emmys and it was for ugly Betty and there were it was like Amy Poehler and a bunch of other people and any polar got all of the women who were in the category to these weird eyeglasses. Like one had like like Sunglasses like these big glasses. One had like a monocle. One had like a little like little like disguises. Right okay. Then they're going through all of them and they're like you know any polar for a Saturday night live and you know like Julia Louis Dreyfuss for whatever it was like six people who are all supporting actresses and then Vanessa Williams and Vanessa Williams not only doesn't have the little outfit on that everybody else who was in on the gag did but she's also staring at the camera like I'm too famous for this shit. I watch wait this out. This is good said. Yeah that's the Williams. We love you and I but I I didn't know who the fuck tammy Roman was. She was a lot of fun and I loved her energy. Throughout this episode. I'll agree with them on on that but I didn't think she was a very good drag performer. Because when she came on the on the stage you could definitely tell the difference between Vanessa Williams and Lonnie love and somebody like Tammy. Roman who clearly doesn't have much of a stage background because Tammy wasn't giving us drag drag up sings. She was just sort of lip. Synching like you'd lip sing to the spoken word. Like her mouth wasn't big. She wasn't giving energy. She wasn't doing it extra like it was just like mouthing the words do you know where. I'm coming from not feel you. I think that if they both had a better idea of what they were supposed to do. And the fact that Vanessa Williams is a pageant grow already pageant girl So she's sort of like had she knew how to To carry herself on stage more so than the tammy would have and her and Rupaul have been friends for decades so going on here. Tim Forehand still. She was a judge right inside has been a judge George Strait. Yeah so without going up but I I was actually really interested. I was just thinking about the logic behind this episode being the second episode versus the first episode. I don't know maybe if this is kind of what they're going for is like Oh. We either wanted to pair this with the like makeover challenge because it was all women we have like women as competitors. Or because of Vanessa will I? I knew all three of these people. I did not know any of the people. Why New Niko but just I knew his name whereas like I was familiar with all three of these people so I thought that was kind of an interesting choice because obviously none of these have to be an order but but anyway and it was a great thing Asia Trinity Melissa Back on our screens as well. I think God Asia when she came out Let's let's make these butterflies lake fly or something we we can teachings butterflies how to fly. Yeah there was no good. What a good sense of humor you like have to Latin. We're halfway through your celebrity drag race so we'll have two more episodes of that coming up in the next couple weeks. I think that wraps everything up for us. So let's get out of here brand her you doing. What are you up to? I'm going to be podcasting this evening. So probably after you guys. Listen to this. And it's downloaded into the feed but there is an amazing game of Sequester. That's going to be played tonight between a bunch of twitter and youtubers and actors and entertainers and our own. Amman add win is playing in it. Taryn Armstrong playing in its. I'm very excited. I'M GONNA be on cursed Kennison's channel calling the action during the breaks and I'm hoping for in Amman Taryn Vinyl to hear anyway. That's where I'll be. You can always find me at one lucky gay on twitter. That's one spelled out E and I'm living my best live how you doing and well Amman. You are playing the game tonight. Although probably by the time most people here this you all have hopefully one right away. I'm going to do my damndest but you can also follow me on. Add Win and check out all the stuff that I got going on over there all right and you can follow me on. Twitter outlay on our age this week for the RTP BNB. Mike and I talk to Lauren Beck from survivor. Season thirty nine. She was forgetting so we play some insane games. 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Sherry Pie and Melbourne Queer Film Festival

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Sherry Pie and Melbourne Queer Film Festival

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Let's get the show rolling okay. So it's been hard to to miss this story when I was Kinda happening. I go to quite a lot of messages because it seems like the perfect story for my ven diagram of interests. If you don't know where this is going it involves a little bit of repose drag race a bit of Nancy during on the Internet Hot Fishing. We just want your favorite favorite things and Cancel culture I guess as well so it was like a myriad of interests of mine So I'm excited to dig into a little back backgrounds felicitous it may not be up to speed on it riposte. Dry-season twelve started two weeks ago. It was actually a few days before episode to. They've done yet spoiler as well. We're going to talk about the last two episodes some. Maybe some reddit stuff. Prior to the second episode of Split The contestants into two groups twenty five year old Fulmar actor or current actor made a statement online spelling out some questionable behavior that a transpired between him and the contestant Cherry Pie back in two thousand fifteen years Which actually when you say. Isn't that non? How long ago? No yeah now. The allegations basically to give a really broad summary of it was that Bennett actually dated the housemates of Sherry Pie. And Basically Sherry head. Put Him in contact with Allison Mossy. Who was working costing for prestigious. Playwright allegedly allegedly working. Is the y'all wanted to this story in? New York City and had said this is really great opportunity for you. He mainly got a lot of email responses from this alison with scripts for a upcoming production called bulk which was about steroids and mainly it seems how they make you smell bad. It was really quite a strangely sexual script and in the industry you do do it a lot. I said Fuck with act is a bit and they would get these sorts of things where it's just like you literally mean you fucking actors not you would also playing these cat fishing. Yeah dated chosen in Dayton actors and often get these requests so it doesn't actually seem that out along To get a mess saying hey get in front of the camera raid this out. The content of the script. Slow will mainly Sexual in about bulking up putting away using steroids stopping using deodorant seemed to be a recurring theme threat these videos. It got to the point where Ben had to decide whether to move to New York City which meant ending his studies. It was a it was a big decision. Communication had gone cold with Allison Mossy and so he decided to call this company in New York City where they said we don't know that post exists that don't exist you've been fished and he immediately connected. The DOTS knew who would put him in contact him. It's like this is Sherry Sherry. Has these videos need to say something I would say within forty eight hours about six? Other men have come out with very similar stories of varying degrees of of of discomfort and and aggressive aggression inappropriateness So all the way from some stories being like I sent a couple of videos. I knew stopped all the way to other actors. Getting sort of I wouldn't say bullied but LADD and coerced into performing sexual acts on camera. Because what the original guy that came out with the statement said that Sherry was actually helping him with some of the filming up some of the dialogue that they were going and was actually physically there when he was masturbating. Yeah has footage of all of that as well. The premeditated elements of this is that he used the Allison Mossy character or persona to insert himself as Joey into these people's lives so alison would alison quote unquote would say. Hey you should spend more time with Joey. Joey will coach you through the saints. And so that way he sort of ingrained himself into the whole process which to me shows a level of and full of around this Now the that is obviously this is a pretty horrific thing to do To numerous people over a span of years and the online community was not particularly pleased about it. Keeping him on this episode hadn't even Fdr it was literally the day before. And Ed this came out. Yes Oh Sherrie had not had a single second of screen time as of yet it got to the day before the episode's wave. We h one the network the now screens a drag race in America released a statement. It was around the same time Sherry released her own apology on facebook saying that they had disqualified. Yes whatever that thing in the finale big drag fans can you explain how the filming works? And how the filming of the finale wicks in the time time why? It's possible to exclude her from the finale. But not from the actual series. See this is a big discourse online because a lot of people have said well. You've acknowledged that Shari's of yes and you don't want to condone one. Edit her out of the show or cut her out of the show now the reality is this drag race films like six to eight months in advance. This stuff is in the can and not only is it filmed. It's completely edited post. It is ready to go ready to go and the amount of work to actually go back in and open it up at day before it's a network. It's it's it's it's done but the filming of the finale happens just before it is we have from that yes or the finales generally filmed off the season as live. You Know Ed live. But it's why they can adjust that now the difficulty and I think where the conversation is getting into some ethical and moral grounds the Israeli sort of important. I think to explore is the. This is Nancy drew read. Spoilers is that Sherry is actually one of the top four so She never lip syncs. Just going to put that out in this whole season. There's no opportunity for them to do A. We'd cut yet in voice over to say. Hey Sheri's golden home remover. She doesn't get in that position. And as we all know anyone who's watched drag race if you make it to the top four you generally have a pretty positive edit. Yeah they very good at making someone could look is in respect to that part of the whole story. I rarely say something good about repulsed trag rice but I think that the responses being quite good tall. Yeah I mean. They've they've listened to what people are saying and they've decided that it's not okay for that person to be in a position to potentially win the show. There's another element to it. Which is what about all the other coins in this season and they with reality. Tv shows there's a lot of personal time and money into the show from all the other queens and for a lot of them. So if there's a group challenge you eliminate share you're GONNA have to eliminate a lot of the the footage of all of those and also a lot of the show is about how they interact with each other. I dare say they probably will go in. Even though they're saying they're gonNA eras I guess I'd probably go in and take out some of her sub stories. And just replace that with MOE footage of Michelle visage holier than their whatever the fuck. I haven't the candidates that can easily slipping but I think the way that they've gone about it as being really good this out of respect for the other Queens We will The show with her in it. But we are eliminating from the finale. Because we don't WANNA encourage behavior. I think the gray area with that and and I fully understand that and the the aspect that I hadn't thought to spending more time online as they were designed is involved in people people that have put that creative wearing other people design and the designer of all of her outfits. Poop overstatement being like. I'm so sad I can't use any of my work because it is attached to her. Then people coming forward and being like look obviously. Don't use any of that but we still love everything else you do designed for all the other queens like keep doing that like we'll still support you like it's all good but It's a very down. That's like a sort of casualty designers. A casualty on this the other thing that is important to keep in mind is so far episode to VH1 did display a sort of warning. Really which I thought was very responsible. Yes get them to do whether that sticks around for each episode. I think it should I hope they do. I'm uncertain as to whether it will because the negative and just to play devil's advocate. It's not necessarily my opinion. The the other side to this is if you give a platform to someone who is not a very nice person. We have the assumption that everyone knows this and has read the back story or whatever the truth is it might actually be minority of community. That does I'm will say this person doing well. On television. Show and think this person's great Really Championed Them. Unfold in love with that creative outlet and you end up in a sort of we'd Bryan singer Roman Polanski where people have a positive connotation yeah to people that have some really negative behaviors. We can assume that everyone watching the shirt has the full buffet of information than we do. And so therefore we end up in a really grey area. Where a we actually just letting people that aren't involved in the online drag race community fallen love. 'cause with these with this person beginning is very good at that. They're very good at editing. A positive narrative for a contestant if they want you to really think highly awesome and if this person makes it to top four. They've absolutely done that year for sheriff down. I was listening to the drag Queen. Manek's change have a podcast called sibling rivalry and that was sort weighing in on the situation. But what they were talking about was last year in the New York scene. Sort of like November ish. There were rumors and allegations going around that some other gay guy had come forward saying she's been cat fishing me. Let the allegations going around just in the New York Sane. And at that time Bob. The dry crane was running. A few different nights and Sherry was the head of those nights so pulled her aside and it was just like. Hey look these are the allegations. Unfortunately I'm just going to have to let you go icon. Associate myself with this stuff if they are true. I don't know but if it does come to light this is a real thing than sorry we have you on and they were saying like thank God we did that. Thank God we took the side of the person that was coming in being like. No this is what's happened. Yes it's also poses the question about the background check. That's been done because very hard thing recusing of that but you know the these victims of these. These crime have not want to speak about it publicly before and completely understand. Why so. That information wasn't really fairly available to the producers of the show. Yeah to find out when something like that happens. Like of course. You're going to be humiliated. I the NFL. Obey their videos out there that could surface things and these people that want to work in an industry that is very sensitive to have taken in the night before. Or whatever is your name Tani's because you've done something that's saved by paper to be sloppy or whatever so I it's kind of yeah. I have people accusing the producers of not doing enough background checking. But where was that information for them to find? Let's I'm just saying that's sort of like what we're supposed to happen on the drag saying. Yeah it has nothing to do with the physical drag saints people in Kost and do and because that's where their scouting the people and there were a few queens of questionable merit this season. I'm just going to say that from what I've seen online. A lot of these stories were well-known. Yeah Common Knowledge Maya and there's a really telling the coins do the build series interview before series at introduce them all. And there's a really telling you and it's a cutting cutting A. Yeah where Shari Pie walks out and the first turns around and looks at the camera and gives an Iro yes. He knows the tation. She'll come out and twitter. She's like give me do whatever I. Yeah the tea was known. Yeah and so I think there is a level of diligence there just in terms of the platform that they have within our community On a similar hands to coins of May transphobic comments on their own social media prior to disturbing films. You should've been feted. At least you know if if you're in a perfect world. Stir WANNA cost him. Get Him to remove the fact that it still shows that. I've had friends lose jobs because of things that posted on social media. Why did you see look? I've talked about this before and this is my face race in the end stuff but what I find really fascinating about this whole thing is. You're willing to cancel these because of that. You willing to cancel all the coins because of their transfer comments if you ask me rupel specifically said that he does not. Count Trans People doing drag as drag. He's also doesn't catch these women is doing drag in the live. Melvin recording. I personally that I can't watch anymore of this show to me. It's up to get back to the dame edna seeing Dame Edna was my icon. It's wide do comedy. When he made those transphobic comments I couldn't inaugurate consciousness support or enjoy what he does anymore. Because I can't encourage that kind of stuff and I find it really interesting. I'm not having to go you personally. Look but Just as somebody in the guy saying and reading all these stuff on facebook and have it all the articles I have. No what's the because I said I'm not going to support the show anymore unless there's a specific episode that I need to watch to talk about on this podcast. I don't feel I needed to watch that episode to talk about this on the post on not watching the show anymore but I find it really interesting that you're able to separate ripoll's comments about people in the community and support. The show is still on yet. Say other people in the show doing it and have issue with that and I know this sounds composing attacking you and I'm not. It's something that I see across the entire community and I cannot comprehend why we're all still living this person. Be The bill in drag when the Incredibly problematic. I've seen the actions that he's taken up in a huge critic of Rupo as an individual on numerous times and I've been a critic of world of wonder for their practices into of liberties taken with Queens and the artistic careers so like I'm extremely critical and always have a critical eye at the same time. I'm not going to myopically. Cancel them out because Gino. I read your post and at the same time won't of wonder as a corporation is something a company that looked out. So what Dracula was doing online. That was a youtube series so that that show was doing something representing different market of the drag community that isn't covered by riposte drag race and gave them funding for two more seasons. Yeah now won't wonder is a corporation that employs and gives a jobs to people with an comed- onto him about rupel as a human as an individual who has said that he wanted to have transpeople on the Shire. Yeah I think that's that's a whole topic on itself but I just want to say I just find it really interesting that these this person and there's been a few other contestants of transphobia helmets that are getting code out for it and yet the highest is getting and I mean it was lady. Bunny I think had the best tweet about this whole thing this someone. That's getting people to do embarrassing videos. An is problematic in that sort of stuff but you can find the host of the show anyway. Sorry that's a bit of a side comment. But it's just been really fascinating watching this whole conversation happen and yet people still going back to these hugely problematic part of the show which is the highest refusing to hire anyone. That's not a cease man as a contestant on and give them a platform what about Jay gun. Jeon who transitioned after initially appearing on the show is that correct. I'm not as good as she was on all stars after already. Yeah I think Rupaul has some problematic senses and has been held accountable for it by the Community. Hence the sort of cutting out of problematic comment. Yeah W. Proactive. I'll give them not yet and the removal of certain colleges. He's adopting this. Don't ask. Don't tell policy but I think holding one person solely it's much bigger than that now. It's not RUPO's drag race. It's technically cold that but it's a team of like your I've taken on a tangent away from this is just something that I ask. I constantly hitting every time I back to the topic and I'm not at all in any way defending Sherry actions but it does also sort of rice them. Because it's about while I was this person doing this. What meant was this person in when they were doing this. And I think it's sort of goes back to something. We've talked a lot about full which is about self acceptance self love and so that was obviously the I mean there's some pretty common themes of certain fetishes. We've seen these. Yes these emails that have come out and there was obviously. I think from an outside perspective as sensitive South Loving Self loathing which is why Sherry used a mosque to sort of inactivates fantasies. There's no that is not a defense in shape or form but it does sort of highlight the forest to have conversations about a healthy fetishes and how to act out people in a healthy way and I think the biggest issue here is about consent at the end. Absolutely biggest thing here because like there's no issue whatsoever with having fetish healthily if you go and approach people who are willing to be involved. But the way that she's gone about it is just horrendous and I think that probably has come from some sort of deep self loathing. Yeah is not an excuse to act it out in those ways. But but yeah it is interesting and it shows that we do need to still be having those conversations that even people who were obviously outwardly. Quite confident in certain elements can still have these These issues in these cases. It's come out in a really fucking awful way that has really damaged other people's lines. Yeah how do we feel about her apology? Specifically that you put on facebook because when I read it like it was very much like okay. Like this person is acknowledging what they've done first of all great When I was listening to Bob and Monet's podcast. They were saying that in this apology. They said since coming home from the show they've been seeking help and they've not been out in the scene and they've been discharged. Sherri Sherri doing everything to become a better person and an eight hundred number. That's actually bullshit because you've been out on the scene. You were still doing this. December you've finished filming in July. And so they were turning around saying like what you've actually put out is in genuine and then that absolutely changed my mind on the perspective of that apology and I'm just like I just don't know where I sit now came forward as well. Oh Did she query came and said. What's your words? You're very thin ice in our community. This is tricky territory. I it's popped up before I've never speak to someone's mental health non and what state during because we just saw the interesting thing for me is like even in this conversation we keep referring to cap fishing and lack to me when I read this enough. What seven hosts seasons of catfish and not in a single episode? Has something gone to the extent of this that I think in terms of the the language that were used when discussing this is happening? Widespread within our community at the moment is we need to distance from that word because I think that would has a sort of connotation with it and also as sort of eased into it as well. A lot hawkins sort of. Yeah which is absolutely not for me. This absolutely goes into the areas of of sort of manipulation abuse over someone else and when we're in those contexts often comes up when you look at someone who's done something abusive to someone else. The mental health issue as into there as well and and you went up in a frog stew of not knowing where to where to go. But I don't know what Sheri's Mental Health State is. What helps she's taking. What helps he has how she feels about herself. Whatever but I do know about abuse and I do know about fishing and I know a bit about frogs and and in my honest opinion. This is not just a plain cat. Fishing thing has a lightness. That that undercuts the brevity of of what Sherry actually did to these multiple people in real life. You know. I think that's the difference. There is the is the cat. Fishing happens in our community all the time on our APPS or whatever we we sort of. We sort of accept that you know. It's in Bios semi Rubik's so used to catfish but this is this is really had person play out a sexual fetish for you without them knowing or consenting to the part of that Vosa inserted themselves physically you use your influence empower Which is Argument I have all the time. Is THAT PEOPLE. Were not aware of the power imbalance when you were a successful performer. As opposed to someone. Who's new to the industry and has used that to Mislaid and enter into sexual unknowingly. Sexual interactions with other people so that puts it in a different category tomato and I think when we discussed this online using cat. Fishing kind of lessens. The impact of what's happening here and I think we would discuss. Sheri's apology differently. If the opinion was this person had sexually assaulted some we would much more critically. Yeah I mean Look I. I read that apology. I does sound quite genuine. I'm sure she does what she's disgusted herself. And that sort of stuff and I believe that that is probably she's feeling I look and sound like such a Cherry Cherry Pie. Stand on the Y. Gosh I just hope you've got some good friends around you because whilst what she did is absolutely disgusting there is no excuse for it She deserves to be taken off the show and all that stuff. You've got to think that this is an individual that the day before that her first episode aired she would have been thinking on. My career is about to go on this amazing trajectory and he said it's gone the exact opposite so whilst we don't have to be a fan of Sherry pie or or anything like that. I I just do hype. That the people around her just reminding her about you know life goes on and and and you know you can make amends for things and that there is a future because that would be a really hard frame of mind guy from from you know thinking everything's going to be amazing to a probably need to pay career kind of a thing. I don't have much compassionate in this but I think we're people you don't necessarily have to wish someone the worst on. Unfortunately a lot of people in line irons and I'm sure as much as you probably shouldn't be she will be online seeing all that sort of stuff and not calling out the people that code hair out. Initially they absolutely every right to do that and it was the right path to take and I'm glad that it was taken seriously and that sort of stuff but then there's a lot of stuff that's come from fans and people that loved the show and that's stuff and I just no one deserves to be you know in a really really bad place and I think it would be so hard to be. I- descends bizarre. That I'm saying this about the person that did such things but I just hope that she has the right people around her because she will have gone from thinking about to be amazing to fuck. Life is really shoot if these actions do not sit well with your values the best action. You can take his indifference because I feel like people. They see in differences like a vote of approval alone. You know and that's why you get these kind of on line trumps comments or things like that because it doesn't have to be there all you if you don't slam someone online at doesn't necessarily mean you condone there and if you're indifferent to someone. I'm just to it. I won't post luck. Yeah exactly yes you can have. You can think that they've done. I think and it's part of this whole cancel culture as a whole really. I mean we've and it's a very neat thing and we don't really know how it works anymore. Because he's so new but we have created this new kangaroo court basically online. I don't think that's a bad thing. It's great that people getting out and the metoo movement came as a result of that and that's fantastic but it's sort of you know if you're gonNA compare it to. How crimes can rely your given a Punishment and whatever their punishment is and then that's the end of it and so in. Sherry's case you know. We sort of decided well. You should not be winning. Repulsed dragged rice and you probably should not be given the opportunity performing in venues. Yeah but I'm not gonNA gigs anymore. But also for the rest of her online or the rest of her life our online presence. He's going to be reminding her that this happened. And it's sort of like when you get on saying. Oh yeah the only the only thing I have to say is like in this case. I think that should actually be criminal. Repercussions those Jews have like. Yes yes like the initial person said. Hey I flagged this campus authorities multiple people and they said there's not enough for me to do something about it so they had to take it. I agree I should have done the rising and and so I think in some ways when I view these actions that should be a criminal legal reprecussions for this the fact that you just got disqualified from a competition and potentially have to change careers you. It might be actually a lucky. In my opinion. You know you the fact that that wasn't taken more seriously by exists idiots. What point does that person serve their punishment and and and the reason is because this is a very new and culture and we don't we don't know what that endpoint something I've thought about while this was happening is the something to keep in mind. Is The online bullying. Trolling is a different thing. To the cancel culture it can be a byproduct of it. It's not necessarily the same thing. Cancel Culture is people minorities have been pushed aside and listen to finally having the voice to push back against corporations and make their voices and the dollar count. It's exactly what say about if you don't like it. Say something about it and don't watch cancel. Culture is this way of groups of people of Color. Lgbtq A. Plus community members saying. I'm not going to support you. You have to do something about this or y'all don't get my money. The offshoot of that of being online bullying and trolling. That's something that needs to be dealt with yet. I guess what the thing is is that what is what usually follows cancer coach and I just don't I don't want anyone suicidal. I don't think anyone in the world should be in a place where their life is just tormented for the rest of their life. I guess it's yeah you're right. It is two separate things but the bullying often follows that that initial scene. That should be happening and I hate going lumping them together put together but I just separate them out and let's let's work on the way that we fully pay online. Let's work on the way I joke about season to season a catfish. I didn't get to use it season. Five with season of fish Talk I'm sorry I'm sorry but let's be kind to one another using your voice. Online is a really important thing which never stopped doing that but having some really critical thinking around online bullying is another thing and If you get any applications for something Cope Balk maybe just Iraq in sorry. I'm trying to lie. I reckon some some clever gays out. They need to ride the music I recognize. There's a few queens. I know that's already working on this and And if there's something gay people not make something beautiful weather anything. The Melbourne Queer Film Festival is the oldest largest and most successful film festival in the Southern Hemisphere. Not that I know what a hemisphere is. And today we're joined by Spirit Economopoulos. The festival was program director. So thank you so much for coming into a little ipod now. The festival opened on Thursday and over one hundred sessions of Queer films over twelve days. Can you talk through a little? Bit of the process of what curated film festival is like. Well look it's a bit of a lengthy process. It kinda goes throughout the year. Sort of jobs. Just sorta starts looking at other fistfuls around the world and what you know. Bequeathed films a kind of coming out and being talked about load of film. Festivals internationally have bequeathed prizes. Yeah between like bill in Film Festival has the Teddy and con as the Queer Palm. You're kind of looking at those kind of fizzles to say what sort of coming out. And you know. I think one pot I love about the festival is just sort of those surprise films once. Come out of nowhere and you like. Oh wow you getting a lotta submission so at the from we get. Yeah people approach you as well and kind of you know ask you to take a look at their film which is always really exciting Mainly with shorts but some features as well so like for me I think the big discoveries are the ones that you know. I haven't heard over and it's like on school so job throughout the year is literally just watching. Queer films literally. Yes that's got to go to festivals while I watch. Oh that must be hot as well about maybe onto another job. What other Queer Film Festivals are? They're all this so many that it's incredible the seventy one of the biggest ones that I go to quite a bit. His frame line which is in San Francisco is one of the film festivals in the world is that in the northern hemisphere hemispheres. Now and you know there's a great one out fast in New York as well as low as five flare is just about to start a couple of weeks in London which is really exciting. Billing obviously has one this hates and is there a Lotta yachts festivals? Some of them are really good at sharing information. Some of them are not so good at sharing stuff is sort of a network like do you help each other out and make suggestions on well side. One of the other festivals. Hey you guys should get this on because we had a really good run with it absolutely. I think that's what I really love about going to the festival's overseas you. Kinda foam is really great. Communities we're all in this together bicycling and I think it's really nice to be able to sort of be collaborative in that way we're actual support of this organization called the Asia Pacific Queer Film Festival Alliance and Which is an awesome thing to be part of? Because we're now you know it gives us the ability to kind of reach out to other equipment festivals that you know essentially probably on on a lot of people's right is and we get to share our films show us their films and it's really nice to make the first of all be more kind of international as well and wanted shine as it so you are. This is quite packs. What are some of your personal highlights? I mean it's always hot. Picking a favorite child's but I will look over films exactly exactly but You know this is a few personal favorites. Made that resonate for one reason. Another lockout Santa Pace Film and then we danced which is absolutely wonderful Georgia movie which has some of the best natal drops of scene in a movie for a while like Robin and Abba which amazing Yeah Really Cool. Little moments a really great film cold. I Miss You Bolivia in film which I thought was absolutely wonderful. Rotate Jerker as well and I think it's really interesting. Film that actually in its time country caused you know rule kind of dialogue and conversation which I thought was really interesting as well and I really liked that film. Lots of it to that sort of jumped to mind. Alto British movie which I thought was really excellent. Any hidden gems that people. Are you know what there's a movie called makeup which I really liked? It's a British films first time filmmaker Claire Quickly That was really great. And it's it's really interesting film the Con of the Tarn of it. It's sort of science offer. You think this is going to be this kind of I don't know tense sort of thriller but actual fact assist kind of really empowering kind of coming out film. I really liked the way. She's approached the story and it's a really interesting film. That kind of really keeps you guessing right until the end. Let's say one thing that I always find with films is. We are very good at putting a spin on things and maybe because of how we live our lives and that sort of thing make you sort of expected. It's one thing and then really slow around the face with a bit of a surprise. That's where film is Gripe because you can kinda mix genres yes film because you know I say coming out stories. Obviously that was one movie where I just sort of. Didn't know where it was going and it was like this is exciting. I think one of my one of my favorite things about the Mobile Queer Film Festival Is People. Go into things every night and you sort of a like okay. I'll just go to this. Go to that. Because there's a vibe to it and so you do see a lot of these sort of stranger underground films that you wouldn't normally say and some of them just like incredible. So isn't when you're flipping through the the festival guide. You know they were others. Centerpiece films that that that are incredible but also giving time to some of the small independent films Comedy Festival. I think where I often just go. And sometimes yeah. I want to this specific things that I know I need to go and say yeah but then there's other stuff in there where you're like. Oh I've never heard of this nothing about it and you go and see it and because of the wonderful key writing that you do You know that your whether it's something that's in your personal tyson or you know it's going to be a really good surprising sort of entertainment and I'm always kind of amazed by. I mean every year after the festival wraps I kind of think you know where. Where do these films end up really? I mean I know that cuisine writer respect is become a little bit more mainstream streaming service but a lot of these films disappear and you'd literally one get a chance to see them anywhere. And I think I think that's kind of where festivals locales or real sort of. You know really important. Kind of kind of cultural compensation is spur. Some really turn up on like gay torrent sites are one of my exes is an actor. He's looking for pornography. Came up his short film and I was like. Oh my God. But it's really lovely filming. Hopefully someone downloads a sink in there. Some dog in in this well speaking of online gay men love a bit of Netflix. And chill kind of thing and that's really become a cultural shift in our people. Sit at home now and they do that. Sort of content exploration from the couch. Yeah Have you found that? That's putting a bit of a shift like making a change in how you cure writing. The festival has a festival have to change or adapt to the fact that people were used to having content chopped up them. I'm love is blind. That should stupid. I don't even WanNa Watch. I think when I first started the job. I was really worried about it as like Disarma- Gaudy and everything's on Netflix. Been actual fact. I think what's happened with places like Netflix. And other streaming services is that the demand for the content is actually created more content and just on the streaming services. It's kind of you know it's just kind of roll on effect or actual fact. It's a good thing it's like a gateway drug. It's a gateway drug. Suddenly you want all the gay films. Netflix is not gonNa be enough so actually think. It's really good and I. Actually I think Netflix Tucson personally has been great and how it supported film. Some filmmakers yet. It's created a bit of a knock on effect and also at the same time. I think it's really interesting in maybe unique about a festival as well as that. It's a real community experience. I think people just there is something quite beautiful about in the room with people especially other quiz and I think it's interesting when you might say something that we would also screen and it's completely different energy in the room saying that with a queer audience and I think that is the thing that Nicholas's never gonna be able to do sorry Netflix. This year of two thousand twenty. It is your thirtieth anniversary. Which congratulations by the way? Nobody's look fantastic. You can say so. He started with three. How the festival begin like well. The festivals history was interesting in kind of came out of mid some kind of side program or we films as some people put on. Kinda was born out of the you know. The back rooms of has an hyenas which is a bookshop in Melbourne. And I think what's really interesting about the festivals histories? Well where it started from was actually thirty years ago. Quiz cinema was actually going to incredible emergence. Like that was when the Queen was happening. We had filmmakers is like Gus Van Sant and Taught Hanes and Rose Trophy and all these Pedro Moldova. And all these filmmakers so this is where the festival was born adult all this really exciting vibrant saints. I guess there was this sort of NATO create something that was gonna be showcasing these films and I think always think that was kind of you know resting on the shoulders of these really wonderful filmmakers. Because he couldn't tarrant know exactly. You really couldn't people now even tried but we can't vouch for that on a on a NI- pod show. Can we know? Let's let's not as great filmmaking. I feel like the stories that are getting told incident but also in in feeder and and and books and lots of stuff has sort of really evolved. How do you feel? It's changed over the cities since the fiscal started yet. Look I think the stories have I guess being more responsive to what's going on in the world today actually also think that You know because you know Quia I guess visibility increased stories have become more mainstream and you can see them on TV. And I think what it's meant. Is that filmmakers looking for new stories to tell Through Cui Lin so I think we're saying rule diversity I suppose in the storytelling. I think it's interesting to see. For example that there's at least three or fulfillment out program that are about Queer Som- seekers you know. This is one of you know. Look incredible urgent kind of story about time and I think we cinema is reflecting that and so rather maybe looking inwards so much. It's kind of looking outwards as well. Yes Oh yeah what do you? What do you think about the theory? That queer cinema is not necessarily about the sexuality of it's more of an ethos you know we had a director on our show six months ago. Thomas some why we got into talk about how Chris Cinema is bone out of the John Waters and Todd Haynes not all of their stories when necessarily about Queer people out the wild you know it was more of a stylistic or a an attitude absolute filmmaking Jan. Feel like maybe. The story is shifting more towards that as opposed to the love Simon and the mainstream gay stories that were saying I think quiz cinemas still has the place and celebrates those outside. Is I think they'll was what was great about John. Waters stuff like this was kind of outsider art or something and these kind of the lives that he wanted to so to celebrate and it still is celebrating and I think you know even looking at the program this year. I think of films like you know brief story from the Green Planet which is Incredible Trans sci-fi movie. That's not you know so it's really cool and I think there's a place for all of it. I suppose what I'm trying to say ensure I hate love Simon and this is why this is a segue like I'm not going to away from the the sort of the mainstream view of homosexuality in popular culture at the moment and how important cuisine Murray's in because I feel like quitting them it was born out of necessity at end of reaction kind of a political or attitude and I think at that time again. Where a coach is being Co? Op CO opted. Una Constipation in packaged and resold to us That I think quilt makers alike on the full frontal of pushing back against that and saying some incredible things especially about people were color and people that are outside the gender spectrum as well. So and. That's that's actually. It is well because I think what's interesting. Is that the see for example. I I would say it's probably the least amount of North American films. We having those stories are coming from places where it is still illegal to be gay and films like centipedes movie. I mentioned four and then And then we dance. I mean this movie in Georgia was met with protests. And the filmmakers sort of you know. The Genesis of that story came from him sort of reacting to a lot of pride prides happening and people getting attacked by sickly. Wanted to really make film that sort of challenge this sort of the masculinity of that culture and you know really celebrate love and desire and I think so. I think that's a thing you know. I think we think about mainstreaming in a very focused and I wanNA say narrow white about cells but actual fact there are countries making. I think at the moment really exciting stuff because the you know the kind of grappling with this still absolutely now one thing that I really like about the festival is the regional to A. Why's it important for you and for for the festival's Hall Yeah. I think it's really important that we do reach out to a lot of you know regional quiz and get the festival at that can be a lot of oscillation with people that are kind of guy in coming out in ridgely areas and it's always interesting going out to the spaces and and sort of providing form for people to just connect me like rock though rock. There welds like what's what's up. What's that movie anyway? Does this phone. I'm sure over member. Put it in the comments. About how when you're an isolated or more remote areas You really grapple wanted the coach to pop culture that comes away from downside down level and it informs like for this person that this filmmaker and informed the rest of her life Just getting a tape sent from New York City to South Korea. Punk in this like really. Regimens shirkers shirkers code shirkers. It's Gripe Gripe phone but I think it's that same idea you take a quick out to original town and you don't know what impact that might have on a young person that lives true. The vice will things have taken his for a lot of people. It's like well. Why don't you just jump online? And what shuttle. Why don't you just going to Sydney in Wacho? Melvin Watch it. And it's the same with other queer festivals like chill out and the Broken Hill festival and that sort of stuff. Is that the people that really need to be hearing. These stories and making those connections are often people from lower socioeconomic backgrounds have the finances to take themselves to Sydney autumn. Open to go and see this sort of stuff and also has my not be out so you're not Johan get together with a group of friends to travel into town to say something so by bringing it there. I can go and see it. I think he's really fantastic thing. Yeah Yeah and some people are going to it on their own and yes absolutely wanting to kind of connect somehow to the community and so I think it's beautiful and it goes back to what you were saying about the importance of sitting on the couch watching somethings right but doing it. With a group of other people is so empowering and so important so yeah absolutely wonderful and throw the budding queer filmmakers Most of them who have blocked me on instagram. Welcome to the show spirit. Can you tell us a bit about pits? Pitch please pitch please so pitch. Please is a competition that we introduced last year and the cash prize was ten thousand dollars and it was basically for full mica to golf and make film and whether it was a short fiction documentary or web series pilot This year we are actually showing the winning film of of made the Movie Saas. Yep So this is actually going to be screening at our P. Not an hour. Strange shorts will screen at our peanuts and Australian shorts. An awards program. It's the willed premie end. I was sort of thinking by the Saddam so proud of it so great that we as a festival of become sort of not only just people that are putting something become as well content. I think it's great to be able to support queer voices and queer filmmakers in that why we're doing it again this year. So I'm a raid. Six finalists kind of already go tomorrow. In fact let's cool. What's the process of that like? Well the process is a lot of applicants. And everyone's sort of submits you know. They'll you know the summit scripts and I think you'll sort of also basing it on the viability of is something okay said spice. Don't shine buck. Yeah Yep so. I think there's sort of all those kind of things to consider and also I think also bad weather that filmmakers representing Diversity is behind the camera in front of the cameras. Well we we submitted last year. I think Oh maybe overlay superman with two million application into like a horror film about dating me. There's like a queer film about you know relationship. Yeah like a person of color in it. It was a horror film but I think it didn't take off any of the like nice spark co sending it again. Oh before you can shop. You mentioned John Mortars before you are a huge John. Lewis Fan for those uninitiated. Can you tell a little bit about who years? And how he's work informed Quia filmmaking today. Well he's from Baltimore have introduced a screening of his. We did a few years ago talking. He's lost three months ago. Yeah he was. Yeah yeah he did like a sort of video recording us which is go. I think he's just. He was a filmmaker. There really was sort of someone who was completely outside the box even in Quia sort of cultural as well he was totally invoice and Sensibility. I think that's what I love about him. Then but it's what he celebrates for you to kind of fly that flag a you know. He wanted to be and he kind of created his own sort of superstars. He's kind of he was his version of the Warhol. Sorta studio yes John Waters Troop divine and. He really sort of celebrates outsiders who tend to sit in reference. You know quite a few of these films as well. What can I say about the best? When did you see I saw famous trouble when I was like thirteen? Blew my mind because I actually thought it was like a cotton and saying well. I think my introduction term was probably polyester and it was his wretched sniff reviews and I was like wow gave you a scratch gave you star John Order. It'd be Legislated with Pink Flamingos. Don't even know what that is divine eights. Doug Shiva spoiler spoiler alert once dragon. Someone's looking like divine. I was like Oh take. It wasn't what I was going for. Thank you so much for coming in to our little vesper song. Dsp appreciate now. People want to feel what seven days after the program? 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RuPauls Drag Race Season 12 | Episode 2 Ru-Cap

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RuPauls Drag Race Season 12 | Episode 2 Ru-Cap

"Hello Hello Hello and welcome to the RU Paul's drag race roucab here on reality TV. I'm your host Liana. Boris and we are here to talk about episode to the second part of the premiere of Ru Paul's drag race season at twelve. A first we have a man whose opinions are always valued at Brown welcome Brian. How are you ready for some no-one apparently we will definitely get into all of that? The start of the show wouldn't address it right away but first let me bring in a man who is a mon- just Amman. Our Yo I am glad to be back for episode two. It's starting to kick often. Yeah some unfortunate things have come up but we'll get into it exactly so let's not very lead. Let's get right into it. Cherry Pie has been disqualified from repulsed drag race at the beginning of the episode. There was a card that was displayed. It's also been added to the first episode. I believe and I will just read exactly what it says. This is the statement from vh one in world of wonder in light of recent developments and Cherry Pie Statement Cherry pies disqualified from Ru Paul's drag race out of respect for the hard work of the Queen's. Vh1 will air the season as planned Sherry Pie will not appear in the grand finale scheduled to be filmed later this spring so this was a story that was Had been on facebook. I think for a while but was finally published by Buzzfeed News. Essentially a cherry pie had been cat fishing over several years via email. Several young actors. She posed as a casting director. Who led them to submit embarrassing audition tapes of themselves? Doing and saying degrading things so you can check out that article that exists. Vh1 responded really quickly. I think within the day they had posted that Sherry had been disqualified and was not invited to the grand finale. That's a situation that we're having to deal with. I have been keeping a close eye on what each one has been doing. They deleted her from Promo picks they photoshop trout of the cast photo. And she's gone from all the drag con stuff the pitstop which is the official review with the Drag Queen and peppermint was on. This week didn't address. Her didn't talk about her at all. So that's the situation that we have brand. I know that you have some strong feelings about this. How do you feel well? I am surprised that we are not totally in agreement on this. Although I certainly respect Leon as decision of her own self to not talk about Cherry Pie not including in the PODCAST SPEAKS. Liana has proposed before we started the recording today to not to follow the lead of vh one in world of wonder. And just not talk about Sherry my contention however is that she's on the episode and I find it hard to talk about a show that I know in love especially if this contestant in particular let's be real it's not it's not like she's going to be out next week. Okay I'm GonNa give you a spoiler. She Ain't out next week so she's going to be around a while and I really think we're in a really sucky situation and it sucks all around but I don't know how to handle it other than to talk about what I see and know that she's going to be a part of all team challenges and things that happen and some of the drama on the show. She's a queen who has an opinion and likes to talk so and even use her as one of the narrators for this episode. Although I will give them a bit of a pass on that because it. I'm sure this episode was already in the can when all this broke Lincoln day before and they couldn't do anything so maybe in the future other episodes will be redone. Reshot Reshad but reedited and We'll have a different product that we're looking at it. Maybe then she won't become as much of a part of the story but I think that I have to talk about Sherry and I guess it probably starts with the fact that I'm going to give you a spoiler. From the beginning my main opinion would be that as I jerry go. She's an absolute trolling. Pervert I mean let's be real about what happened here in the amount of planning that is apparently took but listening to the people who are basically metoo Sherry Pie out of Paul's drag race. It's like the end of the world happened to these men in the article and I'm like listening to them and these fucking idiots and they're like yeah like. I sent thirty videos to some person on the other end of the Internet. Who I didn't know I had never even met in real life and I did sexually suggestive things and I even took off my clothes and jacked off. Like what kind of a fricken idiot are you that you would do that for a job to not think. You know what this probably. This is probably not on the up and up so yeah if I'm a I'm a I'm a little victim blaming here. That's kind of where I am on this and I guess that shouldn't surprise people a mind evening thoughts shirt. You know how you follow up with that I mean I just. I also want to say that everybody's opinions of their own on the panel and we all have varying opinions on the situation and how it should be handled so the feelings of one do not represent all okay so before we go because most of the audience can hear your to be honest condescension in that statement so like just go ahead and tell me Liane. Tell me where I'm wrong. Tell me where I'm wrong that I should be more outraged about what happened. Here was Sherry Pie. Tell me why wrong I mean I think victim blaming is something victims idiots who like shot some videos on themselves and send it off into the Nether regions of the Internet without actually knowing where it happened. I mean there are power dynamics at play here that you don't understand Brent like this is a complicated situation and I think to try to claim sides or something like that is just not I mean. I don't think that that's appropriate. I think that we have to handle the situation with what we have in front of us and I think it's really challenging. But sorry I cut you off I. I think both things can be true. I think that I think that the the men that were catfish or ill advised the obviously I mean they were young and they they weren't. They didn't handle that situation with much intelligence. They didn't seem to really think those things through because just for a little bit more detail here. Cherry Pie impersonated a casting agent casting producer from. Hbo Saying that they were scouting out. Actors to be a part of a show called Bulk B. L. UK and HBO is known for having shows that are a bit more racy because they don't have to follow the guidelines of Network television. So there is nudity. There is a lot of. There's a there are just plain sexiness just out in the open on these types of shows so I can understand an actor being like. Oh well this must be appropriate because it's HBO but at the same time it's like with a cast and producer. Really ask you to send videos of yourself. Jacking off and not only just once but multiple times. I think that I think that both things can be true. I think that you can be very very young and be very you know. Not You don't handle the situation very well but I also think that. Yeah I mean you're also very very young and you're vulnerable to people. That are that that that I mean Sherry Pie. She worked with these people. She worked with these men she went to school with. She took classes with these mentally. She did her research before she went ahead and impersonate his person to take advantage of these people. Like it wasn't. It was premeditated it was all planned out. Like she knew exactly who to target clear. Cherry Pie has put out statements. This is what really I think. Broke everything with Paul's drag race in world of wonder because they saw that. This was basically confirmed because Sherry at least apologize for one instance in particular right and I think it's look the other part of the situation. Is that treating a bad situation with more? Hate is also not a great thing to do right telling people it's okay. To perpetuate like hatred fueled witch hunts. Which is something the tweeted about? I mean that's also an abuse of power that needs to be checked right so you know I think that there needs to be learning on all sides and I actually do want to point out because we had. There was a situation in survivor. If you weren't familiar from last season and robbed at a really great podcast. It's called beyond survivor. Experts weigh in on how to educate about and prevent harassment in the real world. So I will tweet out a link to that. It also provides a number of resources to support and further education when it comes to these types of situations rain dot org won. The Canadian Association of Sexual Assault Centers is another. And so I mean really look. The point is is to educate. And what can we do to move forward as a community as a group to learn about the situation? How do we talk to each other? How do we? How do we listen to each other and so for me? It personally makes me really uncomfortable to talk about Sherry and it was really uncomfortable to watch some of these scenes a lot of these comments especially the ones about Theodore were just. It was hard for me to do. The reason why I'm choosing to not talk about Carey is because it personally makes me. I was going to make a joke though the Joe Pitcher. He had in the episode where she was like so. Are you an actress like like? I mean it's hard it's hard and we all right. Listen respect each other and respect are are just to save myself a little bit that I am not alone. This there are many people on the Internet who were part of the race community who are like what the fuck this is. Not a big deal via twitter. Yara Sofia girl drag. Wayne Watch out Cherry Pie. We'll turn this around and make money out of this merge life is not that serious at Alexis Matteo did enjoy revolves drag race last night but sometimes our own community back our own culture just like our own gay bars. Oh well I guess now all we have to do as crucify drag race girl for wanting some Dick in in into I think she means in so we cancelled drag race and then we get sad things here on facebook and then she responds summaries fan responded to her that said so so let me understand. She catfish man to get their news from them. Don't people do that? All the time on grindr growl scruff. Not Saying it's right or wrong. I'm just curious. Alexis responded for all of those who think that you guys are saints. Sir Sit back and remember your life. No one is perfect. Past contestants have done some crazy shit too. I'm not saying it's okay. All I'm saying is that this would cancel the show and I would miss it by the way I would like to say. Just a little bit of Levity Lady Bunny said at Lady Buddy be seven just heard the news that a drag queen has been good from revolves drag race for pretending to be female casting agent and forcing people to appear in string in a string list. A string of tasteless demoralizing videos. But wait how can they fire the show's host and also Bianca del Rio? Ashby del Rio. Anyone else. Feel odd sending news right now asking for a friend I mean. I think there's a difference though between the situation that Amman Berry clearly described right lake. This was premeditated and was targeted here. Like I have an I have like a bit of and not to sound like a stick in them but I think that we have to be honest about what happens like I see a lot of people making the grinder. Scruff comparisons and it's like if you bitch if you log onto the grinder. You know what you're getting. You know what you're not getting okay like that's like you are entering an arena. Where you're looking you are. You are searching for news you and you are well aware of the fact that there are a lot of game and that are closeted. That don't even have their profile picture on those profiles on that thing so you don't know who who those digs are attached to. So you like. It's like a bit of a disclaimer but to impersonate a casting agent. When you know these people in real life in you if that's like that's an entirely separate situation and I just feel like it's not an indictment on the show. It's an indictment on Cherry Pie because at the end of the day. Vh One is an entity. They are a business. What what are they? What are they supposed to do? And when Sherry Pie pretty much admitted to the situation. Their hands were tied. It's like look girl like like. I'm sure you're not the only person to have done something like this. I'm sure there are plenty of drag race contestants. That have done some pretty fucked up Shit. It just never showed up casting. And why would it? Because it's not something that you're GonNa something also when you're doing this talked about the casting through drag race and how they need to do a better job. I'm like give me a break. Like how in the world never caught this say operate? Yeah they operate on secrecy the entire. They don't want anybody to know who's on the show so of course they're not. They're not going to find things out like this but they had no other choice other than to rip her from the show. Because it's it's either it's either letter. Stay on the letter. B. On the show don't address it and then seemingly be okay with her cat fishing all of these men while the story gets larger and larger and larger when drag race already has its own issues with with Shit. It's like it's either stay silent and let people continue to throw tomatoes or just look I mean okay like you know what she fucked up. It's not a good look. We don't have anything to do with that. I will see it really does show that. I think that probably irradiates me. The most is that Sherry. Put out a statement and you can call them to question the veracity of the statement if you want. But she did talk about her own mental health and how she's getting treatment for that and dealing with that and basically people just totally blew past it. It's not even a reality. People are just who pulling it saying that. That's not real and I think it Israel. I think that the way that Sherry grew up is real. That is real to me. Understand that people like they can just wash away and not even care about her anymore. She's still a person like we have people we have a man in the Oval Office has been far worse things. I mean. You're really telling me that we're going to treat this girl Paul's drag race this way. I I just don't feel right not talking about on the show but I know those people who are screaming into their phones right now. Who are do not agree with me ahead. I'm on now I mean I get it. It's it's it's a very dicey situation because I mean growing up gay is it's hard and it comes with its origin and she goes back in. Philly right. Yeah yeah so it's like I mean I can. I can sympathize with what sharing I can sympathize with West Sherry may have been going through but also like let's not forget that she wasn't that young she was in her twenties like she was like she was like twenty one. Twenty two. Like you know right from wrong at that age. Even I mean you're you're you're growing up as a gay person in this day and age and it's not perfect but it's damn near not what it used to be like fifty years ago you know what I mean. So it's like you have to. I mean while I think I think I think what people are struggling with right now is learning how to talk about this situation because of the fact that vh one because like I said vh one is an entity. They are business. They had no choice other than to distance themselves from the situation. That is what they have to do as a brand to protect your brand protect your money. That is what you do what we do. How we decide to handle situations is completely separate from that you don't have to. Vh One and be like well. They said they're not going to talk about the Bitch. So fucker like she's done she's dead to me. You don't have to do that. You're allowed to have a conversation you're allowed to have mixed feelings you're allowed to have you're allowed to like have nuance entered the conversation and talk about it with your friends and your family. That is what it is there for so I I can. I sympathize with you know not wanting to just completely you know erase her from the conversation because I mean it is reality. It's there. It really sucks. Because that's the other thing is that like if she just got the boot like normal than I don't think. Vh1 puts out a statement here. I think that they just allow things to run their natural course and then when she eventually face plants like Alexis. Michelle who the audience didn't like by the end of her run and they get rid of her. Then it's like girl by. She's out but given the statement on how she's not going to appear at the grand finale and all that. I mean it says to me. I think she probably goes pretty far here. I I would. Yeah how you feel on and I don't know any spoilers but that's how I feel based on the statement. I think that that I think that's probably the case. I think the fact that she probably makes it to the finale. And because this qualify you can't disqualify someone that's already been eliminated so I think what they're saying right now is we. Don't WanNa tell you exactly what happened because we don't want to spoil the season but she's sort of left us no choice so we have to because of the fact that she is at the finale and therefore she could potentially win we just WanNa go ahead and say right now. That's not gonNA happen. She's out which means that they probably have to re film. The finale has said ring. Whatever whoever the Queens where they came in fifth and sixth they probably are now in the top four and everything gets shifted up. And it's just it's just a messy situation all around so it's very unfortunate and like I just think that. Vh One is just doing what they have to do. And how we follow suit up to us. I obviously don't you know. I don't condone anything that Sherry did. I sympathize with the mental health issues. I get it I like that Bitch I get it but you know right from wrong right from wrong and these are the consequences and like it just sucks to me because that spot that have on to somebody else. 'cause like Cherry Pie didn't like this didn't happen in a vacuum like she knew what the fuck she was what she did she probably got cast on the show. Getting Ready for the show knew that there was a potential that all of this stuff could come out because all of that like she did it too. I think it's eight. People have come forth so far that have said yes. You did the exact same thing to me. So she knew what was coming and she allowed herself to be on the show. Have the time of her life did well and then came back. Did press all of that knowing that this could potentially pop off and said nothing. So it's like girl like you you you got the experience that you want it you got to be on drag race and now. This is the consequence that you have to face for the actions that you've taken and that's just how the cookie crumbles. It is what it is. That a Muna exchanged said. Can you imagine if there's a real alison? Mosey out there. She's probably gagging. Yeah I mean look this is a. This is a complicated situation. And I'm happy that we were able to sort of talk through and give a perspective and from where we're all coming from because I think we all view the situation differently and I think that that is reflective of also the audience the people who are watching the show people who were talking about the show that there is not necessarily one right or wrong way to view the censure. There's some people at home where the scene saying there is a right and wrong way to view the situation and Brench is not here you now but like we all come from different experiences and different world view and you know me growing up gay in Indiana and the Midwest and not being sure of how to express myself and doing it really dumb ways like Sherry. I mean like I know. The consequences are sucking. It really sucks. This happened and I don't even like it but it's it's it's. Vh1 did what they had to do in terms of corporate entity and how big drag race is right now so basically I just. I'm really bummed. This ruined my season man. This season was starting so great. It was very promising yard. And I think that's something that I'm you know I'm going to try to be like just to Jan. I WANNA try to be as positive as possible and I wanna be able to enjoy the amazing queens that we have on this season I mean Oh my God i. Love them all and there's so many good looks there's so many good performers and you know. Look we're going to deal with this together. We're going to move forward together and we're GONNA WE'RE GONNA handle this the best way that we can. Okay so we're we're GONNA try and speaking of that. Let's get into everything fun Let's talk about rock rackham soccer. A was a d lights for me in this This episode and she's the one that kick things off I in the work room a mind. What were your first impressions of Rock? A love. What. She said when she came in she said in my Japanese who knows is that appropriation. I guess we'll find I think she's a she's just she's just giving me a queen that's going to be just so irreverent to be entire way through and like we'll talk about it towards the NFL. Fricking Michelle is already trying to comfort and it makes me a little bit pissed off but yeah I just loved her energy. I thought Iana like what else can I say like with us? She you know Kim this I love. I love the bitch. She's my favorite Japanese. She's so talented. She is so funny. She's got such a great personality. She is so cute as a boy like I couldn't believe it when she dragged and she looked like that cute little boy. I just wanted a pinch his cheeks and say hey are you doing like. Oh my God this was. This was so young I totally. Don't I don't get like the the comparisons between Kimchi and Trixie mattel like her personality is just so far away from those two. Yeah even if there is a lot of white around her eyes. I'm like I don. I might even noticing that Shit. I'm just noticing coming out of her mouth like she's just she's just. We're just talking about the positives in the workroom. But Yeah I was so on board with rock on and that's how I'm going to refer from now on. It's because I always think about when I when I hear her name is rock them sock them like I think about so I agree with the Michelle though about the I made up like it's been one episode and we've seen four looks and I'm a little over already like I. I'm hoping that she can change it up a little bit and give us a little bit of a different look for the makeup but as far as her entrance look in my overall feelings about her coming out of this episode it was e- plus plus plus or my God. Her running around the work room was just so fun. Like climbing up on the stairs and rolling out over on the tables and everything. It was just really lovely. She's so adorable and so positive and we got to learn a lot about her during this during this episode. Oh my gosh with like her mom being a addict and stuff like that was insane. Not Insane and so happy that. Harvey that we got to know her. I hope she sticks around but yeah like you alluded to them on. The judges don't seem to be as high on her but I loved her to death are right Dalia. Sin From the House of Aga are look Queen Brent. What did you think about Dalia? I mean like again. She's going to have to do something. That differentiates herself from Oshawa. Because that's all I'm seeing right now. That's this looks like Asha. When she came onto her original season was a season nine and like was like she basically needed to be in the oven a little bit longer like she came onto the show a little green and maybe needed a few more years of experience to really understand what performing in drag is like. Because this just seems like a rerun and I don't mean to discount her personally because it's not it's Dolly Sin but after one episode of getting to know her seems very similar to me and I'm looking for ways to differentiate her from Asia but I'm having trouble at the moment honestly I feel like I feel like Dolly is I feel like ours smarter now might sound a little. I don't mean to say that Dahlia is dumb or anything. I just think that the judges were spot on when they were saying like like I feel like she is just all about the aesthetic everything. And that's very limiting the ways that she can express herself. Because I just think I mean even her confessional when she walked out she's like you know like Miodrag is better than all the other stuff that the girls are doing. And I'm like why it just because you're pretty like come on what's like what else is there. And I just I feel like she's just. Yeah just a little bit milquetoasty me and I think the waterfall and everything but I just don't I'm not like what's the stick sides looking fierce. What is it like where where where I need them? A hair removal was when she was like I love Fossey and the producer was like. Who's Fossey she's like he? I don't judge me almost as bad as when those queen they chose Mariah and knew nothing about me. She for her fricking gay men. How does it happen for Dalia to just sell any product? You could give her something. She's like Oh my Gosh I love it. It's so good it's so amazing honey like these are dog treats. I love them so much. They're so good very much. Look clean very very very clean. Although I do love her looks so I gotta give her that but she she she kills. How long exactly she will be on. Show on first impressions of Sherry. That are on the show. I love the dress. Codes vary on brandy means you came in as a pie and she put the the first prize winning thing on there so they're competent very on brand very campy a blue ribbon. This time though so I don't know I thought she was in this episode. I enjoyed her behind the scenes. I enjoyed her as a narrator. I know there were some definite cringe moments but overall I thought she acquitted herself really. Well like to be honest. It seemed like she was one of the adults in the room. At least as far as these six were concerned so I really look forward to seeing how the dynamics change moving forward but yeah that's what I got to say let's Sherry well and she is one of our Queens from New York City and also one of our Queens from New York City is Jan as we learned just Jan which I absolutely love when they. It was Jan sport but they bleep out the sport hard because are really taking the seriously right law. Y'All her reference of. Let's play some basketball for which I said when she sang the national anthem. I like just watched that video because of the mask singer. Chaka Khan mess up. The national anthem did a really bad so I was like Oh my God Janus in my mind just John I love love love Jan. She's very driven. She's very ambitious and she doesn't apologize for that and she has amazing skin so essentially she's my hero and I love and Jan Rutta those those teeth all keep looking at her teeth. Every time that she's in the conventional. I was talking about the show with a friend of mine last night. And he said something that's sort of like ruining my Jan sport experience. He said you know what I mean like Jan. But she's just a little bit too she's too overly sanitize she's to like cookie cutter to perfect and it's like a little bit boring to watch the. Guy I want to. I'd rather watch somebody else. You know. That has a little bit more work to do. And I'm like Now now that he said that to me I'm like yeah I I guess I kinda Thea- like she's obviously been a fan of the show for a very long time. He's mentioned multiple times in the episode that she's taken all of the critiques from all of the Queen's that she's ever seen on the show and she applies to herself. I think that as far as you know her walking in she looks. She looks like she which ready to. She's ready to go like she had hurt. She had her her reference ready. She had her quote ready. She looked good. She had her backpack like Cheetahs. Looks like she. She studied for the test and now she's here to take the exam. Okay and I think it's adorable but now that my friend said that to me I'm like you know what? Yeah I do. WanNa see you struggle now like I feel like it's only the first episode so I'm GonNa go to hard yet but like I am. I ready to see. I'm ready to see a Jan struggle. Okay that's what I want to see it. Yeah I mean I I love gin I mean and I find it I find it difficult to say Jan Spore because this is one of the few Queens that I was aware of. That's all I had. The same thing is rockin where she was like no. It's just so by the way for people who getting her getting tired of the it's just can't that's like that's from will and grace the whole just. Jack thing from will and grace. So that's that's what they're doing there. I think there was some young people who didn't get that reference and I was really annoyed with them. Sorry I got a guy so was fantastic this episode all around. I just loved her. I really find. She's like a queen. Like this cracker. She doesn't have any weaknesses like she's just fantastic all around and can't wait to see what she's GonNa Bring. I also do like worry a little bit because they felt like during this episode. We can talk about it but I think the judges are not holding back on purpose. Because she's like such an obvious favorite that they don't want to give that away or they're not totally feeling or I felt like the judges were a little hard on Jan and places where maybe they shouldn't have been. I can't wait to talk about that because I didn't agree with them. The judging was very W. F. Moment this episode for me so yeah yeah we'll get into that But another queen that I'm living for is Jada essence of beauty hall. Brandt what did you think about her first impression? I love this bitch. I love this. She's like I'm not GonNa Drag Queen. I'm more of a female impersonator. Which that's what people did back in the old days old days like when I was growing up so yeah she's just fantastic. The body the hair the shoulders the lurks. She can turn how she carries herself. Like a Goddamn champion. I LOVE THE CONFIDENCE. And you know that she was clocking. Everyone of those queens. When she entered the work groom because they were. They were scared her. They were scared of her when she came in. I know that's true Oman. Yeah I mean Cherry Pie said like Oh she's a woman she's she's Prim she's proper she's Polish. She's ready on. He's been waiting for it and like yeah those shoulders man those shoulders glistening in the stage light yes honey. I was here for that. Turquoise on her body audiology the hair everything that hair that jewel tone that TURCO AUSE. Who's just really really gorgeous. And so good on her. I mean she has such a frigging confidence. I if I if I had to pick a winner right now. The finale filmed. We don't know who's in the final four for multiple reasons. But I would pick her. My money would be on her. She makes ninety nine percent of the stuff that she has which you can tell. The stuff is tailored crazy. Her body she will excel in the performance challenges. I think she'll excel in any design challenges. Like if I put money on one of the Queen Jada Josh. That's a lot of talents that I've never. That's always been one that I've always been just so mesmerized by or people that can like she draws as well so she sees it in her mind. She draws out this the design sketch and then she just does it like you know. It's like magic. It's like how do people do that so then it just looks good and then she. It's just it's just all just you know it's hard for her brand like she made it. She created it and now it's like that's the thing like she has a massive personality to back this up. It's not like she's like the quiet girl working behind the scenes. No she is out in front. She is taking the arrows you know. She's going to get into some drama. I love that about her. I love everything about Jane. Oh my God Sam all on our last queen that we get to meet in. This episode is aiden. Zane are spooky queen of the season Amman. What what did you think about first impressions of Aden. I am actually a little bit more hopeful for her. I mean I was during the preseason. I was definitely getting first boot. Bibles and she's still very well could be the first one out but she. She didn't believe I didn't like that. It was edited and when they were all sort of like you know asking her. Okay so where do you perform? How often do you perform? Do you have training? Because if they were asking each other that they didn't show anybody else they just showed her because obviously she's a little bit different from them but it made me like root for her. I was like she made on this show. Just like y'all like she went to the casting process. She had to do this next game audition. She had to do all that. Shit. Since she's talented. Let the bitch slave. She looks good. She's not doing the same old shit the child or doing like a little something else as well like I didn't love Aidan coming onto the show. You we previewed preseason and I wasn't in love with her she's okay. I was like definitely felt like early early. Jury you know and When the Queen started coming for though I really identified with her. I'm like you know like don't be so hard on her. Like she's put on some really interesting looks and even though I don't think I think some of them were more successful than others. I think overall that they were really judgy really judgy and I love like we love seeing a queen like this. Just snap like slap these other queens across across the face with a win. And they're like how does she win like she can't win? She's not better than me. But you know you never know with these challenges that drag race presents who's going to accelerate who doesn't yeah one I think the whole thing about the storyline with her not performing and then really. I thought where she shined the most was in the performance. Because I was not crazy about a lot of the look. But she emotes and she is so frigging expressive face the way her mouth moves is actually kind of mesmerizing. And I think that was her strongest up a showing in this episode for me. But I don't I did feel bad for her but I don't think I necessarily clicked with her in the same way that the two of you did so I think I recall. She will do better than I thought originally but I don't know how well she'll I'm more on your side of things. I didn't totally equipped click with her but on in terms of even if I even though I didn't click with her. I felt like I was identifying with her a little bit more because the other Queens Itchy to her so I know and like okay just because she doesn't perform like okay you live in New York City. Her closest city is Atlanta. And it's an hour away. She's dealing with a whole nother dangling. It's hard right all right. Well let's get into our mini challenge. So again we have the spring and fall looks for the mini challenge. So do any of the spring looks. Stand out to you. I was like the the one thing that I thought about when I came out. Also Oh my God. That's Taylor's looked from from all stars for almost the exact same thing after that instead of making the dress out of those zip ties with actual fabric right on down to the same. Like fire engine. Red Hair it was stunning. It was very beautiful. But that's exactly what I thought. When she came out I thought it was like just like spot on the trinity. I mean I think that the spring look begins and ends with Jada essence. Haw like that was so fantastic. That really look like a spring. Look to me like the way her hair was done. Or titties rock-solid her shoulders. She loves her shoulders. Man She's GonNa. We're going to be seeing them a lot. The makeup was absolutely right. It was fitted so well. The way she walked. The runway was everything I also really loved. Jae An's spring. Look that dull chain. Gabbana inspired outfit was so tight her body and soul fitted and that makeup. What's so right? She has so many different. Looks I keep on this? I keep wanting to save lurks. She came she has so many different looks the way she does her makeup in the way she her face response to the light and I just love that about her. And this was fantastically on Yeah I agree with that. I think that actually there were a lot of looks that I liked Aden's Pittman realness look was maybe not my favorite but rocks the once. I figured out I mean when she said that she drew the garment herself. That was Razi. Impressive very you know. She said I think come to Garson inspired. It was sort of kind of hard to see a little bit just because there was so much going on strike. She was trying to get it in the phone but she she rocket deadly is is prone to these sort of big lurks. Swallow her up like Ross says because the the runway challenge at the beginning and then in the main challenge way that's all I see is just like tons and tons of fabric and I would like to see. I mean she has a great silhouette I would like to see it more. So maybe we'll see if we get more of that in later episodes puffs Chad michaels had when Chad was doing Election that takes me back. Oh I thought that was really cute but for Dolly is at least she kind of had that like through line of the for which then when over into her fall look the whole like all body for number which to be honest. I I thought it was very ugly for Dolly. I was like I would never wear that. But then as they looked at it Mars Inc. Maybe this is art. I don't know what I'm like me. I this is probably my favorite fall. Look Sorry Dahlia's. This was the one time she succeeded. This episode was the fall. Look I loved this book. It was interesting it was it was like it was like art in motion and the way the hair was done. And you can see much of it but like Chevy's like I love what she took off the drag because you could actually see what the hair was. There actually wasn't any hair there. She just like glued some lake streaks of hair to face barely. I just everything about this. Amman was was a hit. This looks like high fashion. It looked like money is. She smells money walking down the runway and I know she don't got no money so that's how it felt to me. Yeah I felt I felt the fantasy. I was like actually disturbed when she d- dragged and then I found out that those hairs were glued. I was like I don't know why with. Oh disturbed by that because the bitch is wall but I was still like. I felt so betrayed when she pulled that off and took it off. I was like what the Hell is this But I really did like her follow. And like we dig it to see Rackham silhouette in her follow. You didn't like that one. Brent in the fall look yeah I can see now. This is probably my least favorite of the fall. Looks and it's not because we didn't see her silhouette I did feel like. The silhouette itself was not exceptionally fitted to her. It was like slightly lumpy to me. Also the fact that her makeup isn't is sort of bugging me like. I don't think that this particular makeup goes with this particular drag. Maybe maybe you guys disagree with me on that but I would like to see something a little bit more. Yeah and I'm sure there's GonNa come from me on that but it's so funny because the people who do who do the snatch makeup we don't come them and say. I want to see something already. I WanNa see something comedy like. We don't say that to them. But I am saying that's Iraq. I guess that's because that's the default to me. Open up my mind marm. But that's how I feel about her. I think she changes a lot around the kind of the outside. So you have that like white under the eye and then the highlight on the nose and then the shape blows to the is stays the same but I was trying to pay attention. She kind of tries to change like the outside because especially in her. Look at the very end. The runway look. She's painted all around it so it's kind of like all of the things that change happen sort of a couple of inches away from the. I like the stuff that's around the I actually see the same I think my favorite followed had to go to Japan to just Jan the minute that she said Ariana Grande a slash lady Gaga Slash. Kim Petras Gabe. I see it. I feel the fantasy. I just love the whole a symmetrical type deal. I Love I love dresses like sort of like you know just sort of Auburn Guard but very sleek and posh and as yeah I think the long pony which is Berry. I felt it and I'd I'd love to eight and Danes boots I loved the yarn friggin when Michelle said. There's a bunch of tea. Kettles naked right now. Like laugh my ass off. I loved it it was it was very quirky very dislike. I would if I were a drag queen. I would like call her and I'd be like please like borrow those for like this one GIG. Just one GIG. I want him. She went to her grandmas and then just got the curtains and made it into a Poncho and found a hat and then took the tea cosies. Like that's that's the aesthetic that I'm getting from eight insane. This look well. Yeah that's how I felt as well I will say that. It's no surprise that the fall looked to me. Also if it wasn't one by Jada I think that it was very close like I love this. Look as he already makes me smile because just like Jan Jada showing us that she has versatility in the way she presents her hair or makeup. Everything about this look like. You're not seeing her shoulders. You're not seeing her torso or any boobs. It's just fashion and it is so fit into her body and so this is just this is perfection and it looks like money years. I love the fact that she talks about that. She's like Jada is Bucci and she has money and you can smell it. And I'm like yes I can smell you like there are other people. Were walking down the runway who are trying to make outfits look classier and more expensive than they are but you. I can smell from here during my television like I scratch and sniff I can smell it from here who those breast plates are like literally late. Those by a friend of mine actually dragged from time to time and he bought one and it was like over two hundred dollars for some faith. We don't see it in this fall. Look I love that? Everything's covered up. Because you already hear Rupaul and company coming for saying you know we're going to see that every episode like if she had changed it up I feel like they might have come for her Seasons fashion is going to be a battle between Jada S and tall and Jiji's mom because like the looks are just so good and so well tailored and like you said Brent they it just fits her so well and there is something to be said for tailored clothes. It just makes you look so much better when you have closed that fit you and fit your body so does this is probably my favorite look while although I did love. John's just just with the alligator very quickly that I wasn't really impressed by Sheri's fall or Spring Luck. I thought they were both pretty weak. Rupaul said that basically they agreed with me on the spring look. They said that it was fine. It was okay. It was good but it was bla. Let's be really it was law. There was nothing special about it whatsoever. The fall look was a little bit more interesting but even then I felt myself slightly bored by her. I I definitely think that I would have expected more from her right out of the gate. I think we'll be remiss if we do not after getting dragged a few times this past week about not correctly identifying the guest a judges that was me. I take full blame okay. This time. We were great mayhem. Miller grace us with her presence again but this time she was not Andre Leon Talley and then seated next to her. We had So neak playing. Not Karl Lagerfeld. And then we also had a raven was there. Kimchi was there and there was one last year so it was a zoology as himself. Kimchi playing NS. We or something sweet. I'm a little bump that they don't get the top. I liked it there there and everything but I will I wanNA hear. Kimchi is facial expressions. Were really really great. One in the background with Aden's look was particularly funny. I saw screen of that somewhere else. If I can find up giving us face to face all right before we talk about the Maxi Challenge. I want to take a second to talk about some affiliate links that we have so if you are traveling although I know with a corona virus maybe not so much but if we ever get back to traveling checkout rows website dot Com Slash Travel Mitch. I'm just trying to be taught to read the news check out like I said row has a website dot com slash travel that will link will be constantly updating with new links. And so if you use them. It doesn't cost you anything extra. We might have discounts from time to time and it helps support. Rob Has a podcast so it's also take a break to hear from some of our other sponsors and we are back. Let's dig in to the Maxi Challenge this week. So the girls wore tasked with writing and recording original. Fossey inspired jazz number Brent. What did you think about the Faucet jazz number in general not a successful as episode one? I really wish they would have switched things. I know they wanted to come out the gate with with Nikki Manashe but while I was not impressed with this I felt like this was half ass. It was sort of half done. I don't even. I don't even really respond. This isn't my favorite kind of musical theatre or musical revue. This isn't my favorite era. Sorry on you but even if even if you thought it was your favorite. I don't think that these screens were as successful as the Queen's from episode one I think overall the choreography wasn't as as Chris. I think the the lines weren't as good. It got better as it went. Certainly but overall I didn't care for it as much. Yeah so there are often times when watching drag race that I we. We see the rehearsal process and we see them like stumbling around and then it ends up being a smashed by the time that gets there. And I'm like how like I was like who the Fuck Reich. What professional choreographer came in and Jewish? This up like how this happened but this is the first time I was like. Oh yeah they definitely themselves nights. It's not very which I think is you know. It's obviously is a effect of the fact. That hardly any of them do fucking who focus was used like. Come on like that is like the most iconic musical theatre choreographer slash director like. He won an Oscar a Tony and a Grammy. All in one bucking year. Okay like the guy is like I think because they don't know who they think is from Chicago because that's how they remember from Chicago is Fussy Fussy Fussy. That's all they remember okay. They don't they have no concept of WHO FACIA. So that's where the problem is from the beginning Yeah I think it's such. It's such a fail to because I mean as rehearsing jaded really you know wanting them to to take everything so simple that they not make it too spicy and like it doesn't have to be a broadway production but I was like. Yeah but that's the beauty of Fathi that it is very simple very isolated movements jazz hands. You know you move as a team like the Fossey Amoeba is like a is a thing like it's such easy ship off but they were just like a mess. Throughout the entire rehearsal process. It was just a train. The thing that I loved the most was when they talked about how they're going to enter. And all the entrance stuff and there was so much time spent on that then cut to the actual performance. And they're sitting in chairs fucking sitting down the aisle like we're gonNA summertime on that and then they're like not like less just sick is we. Can't handle that the whole time during it of that. Snl skit with Christina applegate. Or She's like this is Fossey. This is not Fossey and that was what I was thinking of the entire time. But I don't think that it's delivered in the same way that the performance from week one did I. Actually I have I watch shows like Oh this is okay and then I re watched the episode and it's like Oh. This is much better but I was watching the episode at one point three speed. It's better if you speed it up. Yeah the other thing too is. The order of the Queen's here was really terrible like they started with their two weakest Queens right off the bat in Aden and Dalia and you can say what you wanted about eight and then she was definitely emoting with what she had to work with. But I felt like her vocal track and what she had recorded had the least energy of all thirteen queens from this episode and the last one it was so quiet and soap boring and had no audience interaction whatsoever the other Queens warrants interacting with vocally. It was just her and it was so like it was like I am legend. Where she's the only queen on Earth like he was just doing her own thing up there and that's the thing she couldn't fill the space to me aiden I'm talking about. It wasn't big enough for personality. Wasn't amazing enough to fill the stage when it was her time to go. I just kept wondering like what else is there like. Can we move onto the next queen? And then it was Dalia and I wasn't impressed with her either and I didn't even care for her lyrics although I'm not gonNA come for the contestants as much as the judges the judges Hurley WanNa hear a biography and whatever lyrics that contestants had to work with. I was fine with what I was trying to rhyme with. I just didn't feel like it was performed very well. You can definitely tell. She was nervous as I said it got better from there but already I started. Check out a little bit. I liked to Dolly. Is deflating balloon? Noisy is at the very beginning of her performance. That was very. I was wondering what that was like. Are you like doing the Ferro? Mon Mon like is like what's going on here. I was kind of strange but I sort of like Echo Brennan feel like your Was sort of like half as like I feel like it was like I feel like these queens found out that the other Queens did Nicki Menaj pissed them off and they were like well. Fuck this shit. Except for Jan except for Jan Jan did she. She killed it her and and jade in essence really did a good job. So that the performance and I really I enjoyed which Sherry pile was doing throughout the entire like every time at the end of somebody else's like little shake she would you would think that'll be her next but NAH bitch move out the way and then somebody else would come in and do their own was really really call. I loved frigging rock them sock respite. I loved everything high kick into the FART. It was is my Brennan K. Like it got me. I was the target demographic for that. I don't care if it's far humor and it's low brow. It was funny and it was acrobatic and I won't hear anything against it. I I like to rock as well you know. I think we've talked about this but like this type of humor is not. It's not like my thing but I don't feel like why are they? Were so mean to her about a whole different. Definitely calling for her about this. I'm like Oh so we've found other queens. Do other things in the history of drag race that they've talked about on stage and all of a sudden like one and it wasn't like she belabored the point. It was just like one little joke and she didn't write on it was it was so well done with the timing of it. She had like a little noise. It was like and then like. She likes squatted down and it was. It was so funny. Oh my God it was so funny like I think the judges were just mad. That rocket basically came for the lip sing from a character standpoint. Like it wasn't about rock sacre. It was about some character that she played. And that's not what's judges we're looking for. So that's why I think she might have not been as successful as we thought she was. She was Jada. Essence Hall was absolutely spectacular Jan. So amazing the way she moved on the stage in energy but I will have to say those sharing pie did a fantastic job in this challenge. Like if I hated I I really didn't like what she did in the runway but on the main stage she just lit up a room to the point where I was with the mind in terms of it was such a funny bit like every time you thought it was going to be Sherry and then it wasn't and then when it finally was her it was so funny and so well done and that we can talk on the runway but like overall performance was a smash. I think another thing about Iraq just to go back real quick was she was also doing a lot in the background and I think that it was almost a little distracting at times. So maybe that's where some of the negative criticisms could also have come from. She's doing like some crazy. I mean not that it wasn't entertaining but it didn't necessarily make it cohesive although you know like we talked about this was the best performance in general for this whole group but I think my two favorites were Jada Jan. I think Judas lyrics were the best and as one of the judges said. She's just so fun to watch and it's so fun to watch her move and Jan. We get of course the move over Marcia reference. So if anybody's keeping tally counting. But I'd have to say yeah. Those two are definitely favorites myself. Let's talk quickly about the judges because we didn't talk about them. Our guest judges this episode. Worth Andy. Newton and Robin Brent. Did you have any thoughts about our guest? Judges Me. They were fine. A senator. Who ROB is. I'm sorry I'm a gay man who was forty years old. I don't know the fuck this bitch is i. I'd Never Seen Moore. She recorded a song. I should know about like I know who is okay. I keep dancing My that's like her major one. Okay I didn't get it. There's no fucking Crowley Bitch okay. Well this is an introduction. To Robin for Brent Robin can be really honest. Okay so you know last week when we were talking and we were like okay. The guest judges next week are blank blank. But you said it was like a mom was like it's Robin and any Newton like I thought it was like Robin Thicke. Okay because like I felt like like he was about to say the last name but then he changed course in midstream of the sentence and then like decided not to like we. Just assume you. We know who the Robin is in the in the thing. Because I've never heard of this robin before it's apparently spelled R. Obgyn which again. I've never heard of her sorry. Don't come for me. Don't judge me so I thought it was Robin Thicke. And then you can imagine my disappointment win this robin on the stage. Oh my God yeah now. Robin Thicke is busy with amassing time for house. I thought I thought it was like it was like a Promo Crossover Promotion. Actually thought Andy. Newton did a really good job was great. She was really great. Robin was okay. Yeah Robin was. I'll be real. Robert was pretty terrible. Failure was fucking great. Had so much empathy and so much warmth and really try to pump the queen's up and I I really loved her on the on the show. Yeah you can tell when she's when when the actually fans of the show and I'm always very hard when we come in and actually take it seriously and you know it's also always get extra points for me. I don't think it happened in this particular episode but the Gesher just always get extra points for me when I was Carson and Andrew and Michelle and Ross are always making self referential jokes and puns and sometimes get no because they've seen the show and it's always like yeah like you guys like dirt team drag race. I love it so it's great to have enthusiastic earlier. Now let's talk about some tool which was the theme of our runway. Look so first of all tool versus sparkles Amman. Which one would you rather do Probably Sparkle mean I just feel like tool is just like I mean what else can you do with it? Flows it bounces. It's it's it's a. It's a walking loofah. Like what else can you do? I mean points to Jan because she really showed the fuck out for this way but yeah definitely I would have to choose your which is like. Who wouldn't you sparkle over tool like? There's so many puns. You can make tool like they had like. I can see her tool from here and then like when it came out was like now. Dahlia's tool is red and engorged. I believe there isn't waited for that. Yeah I did feel. I felt bad for the Queen's an episode because I was like okay so group one gets Nicki Menaj. They get a better song and they get sparkles. This group gets the Indian Robin which fine but then they get the Fossey number and tool and I was like. I'm so sorry I'm so sorry all right. Well let's talk about eight ends. So she was living her Lime Green. Princess Fantasy Brent. What did you think about eight? Aden's look over. All I mean. I thought that she wasn't a successful on the runway like I. I'm trying to get behind this. Look I think there's there's a thought and points of view so points for that okay but I felt like it was so monochromatic to the point where it just also swallowed her like. I didn't even though it was very fitted around the waist. I felt like I couldn't see some of the structural accomplishments in this dress. And even though I felt like she was trying to give us different look than what she gave us from the runway and even during the lifting challenge itself I. I wasn't as impressed by this. I'm on what did you see once again. Another lime green dress with a red WIG. Like what's going on but I I liked it. I appreciate the fact that it was a little bit more. Glam a little bit more rational. She's I mean and she said she was like look. Are you know people are GonNa say about me? They're GONNA call me this book either. GonNa that I'm only here to to drag your butt. I can be pretty to and let me show you real quick but then I feel like next next week. We're going to go right back to being spooky bitches and that we should have had the shut up for it so I liked it. I thought tool is there really isn't much that you can do it so I'm not. I can't really be too hard on any of the coins for this particular runway hard because it gave me a little bit of sort of like night-time like overcoat sort of look I i. I didn't exactly know what I was looking at. And I get your point about how it Kinda swallowed her up even though Raka gms soccer as was literally like what a thousand yards of tool. But it wasn't bad it just also did it spark joy. If I Murray Kanda this no. I don't think it sparks joy but I also didn't hate it so I don't know where I land. Now talk about something. I did. Love Dalia sins. Look the red eighties. Look those kinky boots Brent. This to me was one of my name is. She saved herself it all in this episode. This was why like this. Runway was absolutely spectacular. Yeah there were elements of it that we're kind of just pretty and it was in some ways sort of predictable that this is the way she's going to go but still she pulled it off so freakin well and looked so amazingly hot. Walking down the runway with that WIG that make up and that body everything about this was so freaking fantastic Dali like. I'm hoping we get more of this but I'm afraid we're going to get more of like what we saw during the challenge here is the IANA influence coming through again. Like it's it's so easy it's so apparent in those boots men and those boots I just I wanted to. I want them and I'm not even a big fashion person but I want those boots just to see that I have them. I need it speaking of what is she going to be. A guest judge. I feel like she shift. I thirteen if anybody on production that listened to this to this podcast get Riana for the premiere episode. We deserve it. She's like come on but anyway. Yeah I love diocese look. She looks great and yes. Well Mike was shut up and drive is probably one of the most iconic sinks ever so Omar's let's get re re on the show. Okay people it's time it's time you did. I mean you got Goguadze. Nikki is like you need Riana Katy Perry Guinea beyond that. You just need thing beyond say I was like okay. She's Fifteen Yonsei. Maybe a bit more like season one hundred whenever her schedule finally look? They're making their coin. They're busy bitches. I by Jada Jada date. Oh my gosh. Not Jan Jan Jan. This was so fantastic. The different shades of yellow in this outfit and it is so hard to get a particular shade of yellow right where it doesn't look like urine like honestly this more like water and she absolutely nailed it everything about this from the way the tool that contrast with the color of the actual structure of the course that in the end the bodice herself to the hair to the earrings the earrings. And they're like sort of her a little bit of pink with a lot of yellow and then her nails pink. I mean she is such a professional. This is spectacular and it hits the floor perfectly like you can tell she is a pageant Queen Bitch. Oh I love this. This is so good. Yeah it was like it. Looks like a cupcake you? It was very little space for the leg. You know show a little bit of leg. They're all man. I forgot to write it down. But Michelle van cise made a pun. Did Not Understand. And it cracked drew up when whenever she was on the runway. And I meant to edit down to ask you to about it but other that after the show I love the look. It was great and those pink nails. Were just a perfect. Chef's kiss to that. Yeah it was The Easter ever I think is what Ross said that was. That was really good. If this look was amazing I don't know I guess you could call it. You could say oh. It's you know it's predictable. It's the funding. Yeah not the color scheme. The color scheme is not predictable. The way the makeup the white the way the way the light hits your face is not predictable and also this could've swallowed her up but as a month correctly points out her leg you can see her legs during this look and you can see them stopping down the runway. This is just. This is how it's done people take note and watch this bitch. She is fantastic. I mean the way that it's cut and the way that a bodice is shaped the way that the tool comes up very different line and just makes the whole thing a look so well put together so Polish and talking about detail oriented. This thing is so incredibly well-crafted this this was like this. Is the icing on the cupcake. Did it for me if I was going? Make a winner. Piglet Jada essence all angry speaking of another look that I loved just Jan with her tool tool luck. Amman cheating This was the best fricking runway. This episode it was part of it. Was You know it was punny? It was a different perspective. It wasn't address construction uniform with the yellow jacket and the Orange Jumpsuit. She had traffic cone earrings. She had a tool belt. She had a tool in the tool belt. The fucking high heels have reg souls just like some construction boots. Like where the fuck did she even get those? It was a feast. Just like Tandy said it was there was there was detail there was something to actually go back and look and be like. Oh Shit I think what you did their bit. Okay like she. She didn't she didn't a damn thing. She's a student of drag racing and clearly it is even Japan. Is What Sasha Bell who famously cracks the code on drag race could have been because I feel like Janice crack the code Andre. She's like she wants you. Just throw everything at the wall and the judge's everything and win all the points and all the coins and I don't know maybe she's held back a little bit here. I don't want her to but I feel like the judges didn't respond as positively as I wanted them to and so I'm looking for a reason. Why maybe she should have changed something because this is a spectacular everything about this. Look from like it's like I'm onset. It's tool within tool within tool like there's tool on it. It's also a tool thing. It's it's a tool themed belts and a tool themed earrings and like with the traffic cones. And I even the color. The color in particular is so fishy in the way she like has a much lighter makeup. How it in this particular? Look with that hair and the way the hairline works. What's her makeup? And I mean I if she could have found a way to like put like miniature caution tape throughout the strands of her hair. I would like I would have liked had like a fashion orgasm. It would have been perfect but no all I can say. This is just keep looking for reasons why she wasn't in the top two. Because I feel like this was former successful than what Sherry did on the runway which I think I've seen before like I haven't seen what John has done before on the runway. Not In this kind of way. Not during a tool themes runway. Have I seen something like this and I love the Michelle pointed out and give her credit for it but almost like they held like Janice such a fan of drag racing? She wanted them know that she appreciates everything about drag racing. She's taking it all in and I felt like in some ways. They they penalized for for that. Am I reading that wrong? I know it was so weird. I sort of got a little bit of flashbacks to season one like it was a chanel type situation. Like she's so perfect and you know she's to Polish. She's to put together. Obviously it's a little bit of a different beast. But that was the first thing that stood out to me because tool literally. The point of tool is that it's poofy and that it's fluffy and she managed to create a sleek garment with clean lines of tool that the tool at she had her little to her low wrench that she was trying to like. Turn the light bulbs West on how that works with us. Fine I don't care so mean thing I'm not even gonNA worry about it. It was so disappointing to hear the judges be like. Yeah like stop calmed down and appre. You'll say yeah. Why calm down you? Just you just said that you you like. There's so many queens that you're always like we wanna see you want to see you want to know more about you. You WanNa see you hear them. They they gave us some. Bs like sort of woke statement where they were like well. She's not as present as she needs to be in the moment and I'm like that's so cliche like seriously like that. Is that is not a thing like she's she's right there. What are you talking about? Maybe she? Maybe it's just you know thing where Jan is obviously a front runner and they don't WanNa make it too obvious critique anywhere that they can just Jan is the MS cracker who gets bumped up into the top four because of what happened was Cherry Pie. Then I'm totally on board. Yeah Hey hey I'm nervous. I hope that it's a mom. The situation that you described but I think I think she's just not connecting the judges yet and I'm hoping that she'll be able to throughout the course of the season because what she brings us so special and I think that she's really talented. Yeah I'm excited to see like sometimes I feel like the judges are lying these. I'd just can't wait to see what you do next week. I'm like that but I actually want to see what she is doing. Amman Insane Zane. Rock literally bought all the tool on the planet. Brent like this so much tool yeah I wasn't. I didn't respond positively to this. I will say though that there was a little bit of what we're just going on with the judges because Ross was like saying to other Queens like with John he was like there's no such thing as too much drag and then Ross like ten seconds later. Oh this is too much it swallows you up. I wish I could edit and I'm like you know p consistent what are you talking about like I? I think that this suffers from some of the same things that I talked about at the beginning of the episode during the string. Look it's a lot of fabric is a ton fabric and I probably cited more with Ross. Even though I unbalanced I probably side more with Michelle because I did feel like this. Really swallowed her. It didn't give her as clean of lines as she could have had. Had there been a little bit more structure to the inside of the outfit but the tool around it was just like a water fabric and a tornado. And I don't know I definitely got where we're coming from. I sort of like did I feel like this is like sort of the thing that Soju was trying to go forth last season. Like all of that war and I've I've ever like when she got to the end of the runway. She made a point to stick out her legs. So that the tool would separate and you could see the bodice that was attached to it. So I feel like it's very very big. Maybe maybe it could have been trimmed on a touch but I think once again. It's tool like what are you want them to do it? That's how it's supposed. That's how that's how it looks and you know I don't know I like this. Sort of like ostentatious. She's very I mean that's just how she is she's very ostentatious she's like in your face. She's over the top extra like she's the girl that comes into the room and dances tables and that is the look personified so I loved it. Actually I big old loofah which I think was one of the comments that was made. I think because the the reason why I love it because I could see the swallowing up comment is because the bodice was white where there wasn't tool. It was also bright white and because of the way that she presented it on the main stage. Like you said she. She held her arms up and out. She spread her legs because he was like. I gotTA show off this dress the cut of this dress because it is yeah like hundreds and hundreds of yards of tool it was so over the top and I liked. It was his comments where she said like you were performance art and I really resonated with that. I thought it was so cool and I thought that the details that she did around the makeup is kind of what I was talking a little bit about earlier where it was very detailed around the eyes and very colorful and I thought it matched with the tool luck I can see the critique but I think personally I land on the side of really really liking the tool look. I like the fact that her wave was matching. The was the same color as the purple in the sort of was part of the tool as well. I liked it. I thought it was very poofy. I just wanted to touch it so bad like score shit like this but I don't know maybe one day all right the last night Bryant you started to talk about Sheri's look. The raindrop like detox inspired. Look I think what did you think? Yeah definitely view talks inspired. I will say that. Her performance on the runway was pretty spectacular with the rain codes. And then taking it off with the little confetti that it was like rain and then she was like performance walking down the runway. The shoes are fantastic. I love the yellow against that blue with the little light involved. Like I think that makes a great color. Combination the pallet itself and this makeup was definitely different than what she had done previously. I I really responded to this makeup in a way that it looked so professional in well done but it was so much lighter like there wasn't as much like I shadow and there wasn't as much lipstick was just a lighter shade of Palate to the point where it made her look so soft and feminine. Which like she's a big Gal. It's hard to make our look soft and feminine. But I felt like this did a really good job. I love this. I love town. Yeah anything can't though. I love a theme and I loved the the the the rain. Confetti I loved the lightning bolts on the back. Like she hurt her. It was like a cloud storm cloud I loved all of it I love the biggest raindrops that were cascading down. The tool and I liked that it was so high up to like that you see all of her legs. It was it was. I liked it. Not My favorite but definitely probably the top three so for the run like last week after all of the runway looks we get into the lip sync which is between the top two contestants of the week so we have nobody going home which I will say was really I mean. It was anti climactic because he already knew wasn't going to happen like nobody was going to go home. Plus you only had six girls if you're not going to send one out of seven home. You're definitely not going to send home so a lot of the excitement. It was kind of lost but I don't know how exactly they would get around that so fine. Whatever but we get into the languages. Call your girlfriend by Robin. We have Jada versus Sherry rented. You think that Jada should have one here based on her performance. Of course this is. This was wonderful. She did such a great job. I love that for the most part. She did not default to comedy. I think that's the thing that a lot of drag queens do. Is they default to comedy when they don't know what else to do on the runway and maybe share. He felt like in that outfit. And that look that. She couldn't give anything more than what she did. But I felt like Jada was in it to win it from the start. She had a plan. She had a reveal. She was ready to go. She gave us heartfelt lyrics. It was it was from her soul. I felt like we got that lip sync from her and looked. The five thousand dollars was totally icing on the cake. This was just out of this world. I always wonder about the live seeing some time. 'cause I know for for all stars. They're allowed to switch out. There looks if they're going to be in the bottom or if they're in in that case in the top But I don't you don't really see that happen a lot of the time the regular season so I'm wondering if there's a rule against changing your outfit because there are some times when like the theme of the runway is calls for some pretty ostentatious shit in cause some really high art pieces that you wear and so sometimes these queens they don't WanNa fuck up all of that ration for the sake of a lip sync even if it's just to save themselves you're still you know still your you put money in time. Those looks like I always wonder like. Are they allowed to switch because maybe if she had to warn something different maybe Sherry would have given us a little bit more? I mean I think that she did a pretty good job considering what she called the comedic effect or whatever the hell it obviously you know. Jay Jay was she. She turned out. You know she's just going to be. She was going to be Olympic assassin. She will be yes. Jada Jada and this is again another reason. I was like if they do the final four again with the LIP syncs. This girl is amazing and do something to look out for. I think in terms of the logistics of changing clothes and stuff for the the all-star seasons. They actually go back to the workroom. Because they have to do all of the deliberations and they talk to each other and they do the thing where they pick the kind of thing whereas for this they just go backstage which is where they do the filming of the untucked because I think for all star seasons. We don't have the on talk so I think that that's sort of part of the reason. They're around all their stuff and they can change. Where is this? I think it just has to do with that. But I'm not one hundred percent chore. Then I guess I guess if you're a fan of the show I guess I wonder if there's any that have ever like I was needs a mother bucket lip sync. I was ready to do so or whatever that right. I wonder if some of these queens into every fucking runway looked at they brain they incorporate some sort of like reveal just so they could be prepared. It's a motherfucker and they'll sell good are able. That are really wraps up what we have here in the episode. Do you guys have any other thoughts? You WanNa talk about before we dress a little bit of untucked. Although there wasn't that much that was going on there wasn't that much going on. You know this this is this. Really sucks overall. You guys like the whole Sherry Pie thing Everything about it. I I hate the fact that if she's not going to be a part of the season I hate the fact that she's on the show like I. I'm hoping that in future episodes they can just edit around her in some ways. I mean I don't know how much that's possible like again. How how do you edit around here in this episode? She was in the Goddamn lives. Saint are what if she won? What can you imagine the responsible if she won the LIP SYNC? Which you know at some point. She's probably going to send a bitch own so it's just bites at. Yeah IT'S UNFORTUNATE. That was like my main gripe with the whole thing aside from obviously you know what she does to those to those people but also that it's sort of tainting the season especially for the rest of the Queen's that sort of have to you know be no. You're apart of that with the person that did that like say so. This is what I would say. I know that there's plenty of people out there who don't agree with me and that's totally fine. I will say that. Just listen to the way that I spoke and then Amman spoke Liana spoke. I don't think the art xactly in the same place but yet we were all able to hear each other and still be friends after. I think that I have very strong opinions on this and I know the ANA has very strong opinions of this and and maybe I'm wrong. I definitely leave open the possibility that I am wrong. There have been times where I have been podcasting and things that I thought a few years ago. I don't necessarily think now however I do love the fact that we can explain exchange litany of ideas on this podcast and still be great co workers and friends at the end of the day. I love that about you guys and I. I think that that's just so important to keep in mind. In general look nothing good comes from hate or and it's okay to have emotions and to feel frustration into feel anger but I think we all need to learn to communicate to talk to each other and I wanted to address this situation. I WanNa talk about the situation because sweeping things under the rug also doesn't help it. I know that that's what I'm doing right. Oh call me a hypocrite. I'm not talking about her. But that's because my emotion that I feel is it makes me uncomfortable but I'm okay if you guys WanNa talk about it and I'm okay that there are people who have different opinions even though I feel strongly about my own. I'm more than happy to talk about it to listen so I appreciate you both and I appreciate the discussion and there will be more discussions. I'm sure there will be had throughout the season and important to keep in mind. I feel like a Moan and I are pretty much the same place where we're like. I'm not going to go out of my way as the bitch. But like I needed to talk about her all talk about her and I don't even think she was unsuccessful in this episode anyways like I felt like I would not have had her in the top two. I'll say that I would have had her in the middle. Maybe even like fourth overall actually I would have had John in the top two so like there was definitely a little bit of rob the honest kind of weird thing going with Jan and I just hope that's not a reflection of what we're going to see going forward because if it is I'm already tired of it into only been one episode Johnny. Yeah I mean when I was talking to my friend about this last night and he did say to me he was like you know like you know it is what it is and if if you know maybe maybe maybe. Cherry Pie does actually get eliminated. And it'll be surprised for all of us so at the end of the day. We still don't know what's going to happen in regards to her progression throughout the show but the rest of these Queens. Their dreams are coming true. We're getting to watch them fight for something that they've wanted for a very long time. And that's what I'm GONNA tend to focus on just those other girls that that are also sharing the stage because while this is an unfortunate situation like I'm not GonNa let that color my perspective on how the other Queens are participating in progressing because they deserve the respect to have their to have their their work in there are celebrated just like any other queen so one hundred thousand one hundred percent okay. So what are you up to in the universe? Where can people find you on social media? You can always yell at me at one lucky game on twitter and tell me why. I'm wrong and you can also find me at one like UK across all social social media but indefinitely on twitter. Kind of guy. I am recapping big brother. Canada eight which antastic season. It just getting started so much diversity and likeability in competitors and hungriness. I'm so excited to see how this turns out so I am pretty busy. You can see me on at the roundtable with Taryn and Melissa on Tuesdays. I believe it's going to be at nine PM or nine thirty. Just stay tuned a man. How `bout you what are you up to? I am Amman Adeline on twitter. You can also follow me for any big brother slash drag race shenanigans. Actually get the chance to be on the update this week on Thursdays. I'm excited about that. But yeah that's that's and you can find me on Social Media Liana. Boris the RHA. Bnb this week with my bloom. We had Matla Gorey's our guest which was oh my God insanely silly and superfund the Massingir podcast with using Achilles out. We talked about the last group of episode of Group B. So I think we're both very happy to be moving on to a new crop of her formers so definitely look out for those two things you can find this podcast and others in the reality. Tv rehabs fee or on the drag race feed. Please leave us star ratings and reviews on itunes and also become a patron of rob has a podcast right. Oh my gosh. Being Patriot is so amazing. I've been a Patriot now for a few years. 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Bravos Old Lady Gangs: RHOA And RHOC Spin Offs, Britney Spears Downward Spiral, Love Is Blind, RPDRs Sherry Pie And More!

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Bravos Old Lady Gangs: RHOA And RHOC Spin Offs, Britney Spears Downward Spiral, Love Is Blind, RPDRs Sherry Pie And More!

"Jonathan over places I go. I'm actually Hoover Baker taste reality dot com gossip Guru self-proclaimed fan girl and pop culture enthusiasts with a sweet spot for nostalgia. You're listening to on his day. Entertainment A podcast. All about the greatest reality TV and pop culture happenings from today yesterday. And tomorrow. Welcome to the fanny. Pack in the wise words of Bethany Frankel. It's time to mention it. All who without further ado this week in reality TV in celebrity news. I am not sure about what y'all did this weekend. But I was glued to my instagram watching. My Girl Britney Spears. I was so excited last week. On this podcast. I mentioned that she was finally back on instagram. And that it wasn't her people running her page and while I didn't realize how bad it was gonna get how quickly it got. She started posting really bizarre videos and pictures like the same picture of herself over and over again. There was one photo where you could slightly see part of her nipple. She has weird gap in her teeth in one of the photos which she had an accent a British accent again. It's all very strange. It's all way too reminiscent of two thousand seven Brittany and who we're going to talk about. Britney some more later in this episode as well as my other obsession from the week is love is blind on that flex and if you have not watched love is blind. You need to do that right now. I'm going to be doing a special bonus episode with Aaron Martin from the pink shade with Aaron Martin. Podcast on Tuesday breaking down the season. So you have time if you haven't watched it yet. You have time from now until Tuesday to watch it so you are ready for the breakdown. But without further ADO. Let's get started with Monday's news. I woke up to a story of a hero which is a great way to start the day. You know that adorable man Alex Boulevard Nick. From Ninety Day fiancee. He is the man who ended up marrying Lauren. Who went on vacation to it was actually her birth rate trip. She had gone to Israel where she had met. Alex they fell in love. They're actually one of the feel. Maybe the only ninety day fiance couple that I truly believe is in it for the long long hike. Will they were in the Bahamas over the weekend and a man was drowning and Alex went. Saw the whole thing happening. He had a bunch of friends on the beach. They were all clearly intoxicated from what I understand. Nobody did a damn thing. Alex went straight into hero mode. Ran into the ocean grabbed the drowning man and brought him to shore. And that's when a group of people came around and eventually rescue people came out as well but holy Shit. I've always thought Alex is like the cutest nicest sweetest man like. I needed any more reason to love him. But here we are so. Lauren was obviously very proud of her husband. Who May I add in the last? Few months was just finally awarded citizenship in America. And can I just say this is what it's all about lake? It's just such a beautiful thing to see our country. Welcome people in and in turn they giving back to their community here in such a beautiful insignificant way. I have chills. I don't know about you. They're multiplying just John Travolta set increase. Well the next piece of news was more than I could handle on one of the two ends and this is a very controversial story. This really had people divided on the Internet. There are two Bravo spin offs in the works. Both of them are officially filming. The first one the one that I'm actually excited about is Mama joys from real housewives of Atlanta who is a very very controversial character. I think she's a mess and I love her. She has a real mean streak and I know that's not cool. But she makes great television in the way she mothers and smothers a and the complicated relationship. She's had with Ken. Why did I almost to say? Can you see Candy Verse With Dodd? Oops Tucker Wow. That was a real real shift in energy right there. Well the relationship between mom and Todd Tucker over the years has been very difficult long story short. I Love Mama Joys but even more. I love all of candies on tees so they are starting a show based on their Atlanta restaurant. They Mama Joyce has a restaurant called Old Lady Gang. It's with candies aunties. It's a barbecue restaurant and it looks like it's going to be getting filmed because the title of the show is Old Lady Gang. I'm here for it. People can't stand Joyce and are very disappointed in this spinoff happening. I'm on this team. But I am just devastated by the news of this next spin off. Vicky gumbleton formerly of the real housewives of Orange County posted to her instagram of a video camera recording her and Tamra judge another former real housewives of Orange County cast member and they were just sitting down talking drinking wine and Vicky had a really shitty set of hashtags that were just so icky Vicky and Ram just not at all here for it. The hashtags were life after. Housewives can't keep us down Woohoo. Oh My Gosh. My stomach is turning no make it stop. I was so glad and still. Maybe there's some hope still for the Orange County housewives but whatever they're trying to sell in the spin off I am not buying. Let's say on the topic of real housewives for Tuesday's news. Nina leaks is going hard. She has warned her co-stars of an explosive real housewives of Atlanta Reunion. And after her. I'm going to call it out after disappointing performance last year at the reunion. I mean she had been quiet and actually listened for once all of the talking. She did for the most part was with her eyes and facial expressions but she actually said quote. I'm coming for you to her. Cast mates and number one on her list drum roll please Kenya more. They have been at odds all season. If you're an Atlanta Stan like me. It has gotten really really messy. While Niimi recently told people about Kenya quote. She's mean she plays dirty. She hits below the belt. She's not authentic. She is strategic about how she is going to come into each season. She plans it out in her head. This season is going to be great for me. To argue with Mimi. This season of Atlanta's been a little for me. I am of course excited for Union. Love the mess but yeah it's just been a little sub par for this. Gal Speaking of Subpar Bravo. Show right now in. This breaks my heart. We're going to talk about vendor pump rules. I am just these. Last couple of weeks have been painful. Britney Jackson's wedding needs to end already. We need them off our screens. I'd love to keep Brittany around to hang out with the girls but Jack's is no longer welcome on my screen and I have gotten less than less excited every week. One thing I am excited about I have to say as a huge Stasi fan. I am so excited to finally see Bo eventually proposed to stop. See if you follow the couple in real life as I do you know that they are of course engaged that they're planning a wedding in Rome. Italy the reason I made a point to say Rome Italy because on paper Brittany. Jacks got married in verse. Cy but not Versailles France Verse Sales Kentucky. So I didn't want you thinking I was talking about like Rome Georgia or something to that effect. We're talking Rome Italy well in Lake Real Health News. Corona virus is a thing and short-sea went on the record explaining how the virus may affect Saskia Bos wedding as of now. The couple is planning on having their destination wedding in Italy. Justice planned and keep in mind. It wouldn't be till October. So here's hoping that this virus is stopped by then a wedding on the rocks. Wow I thought they were doing better. We're talking about Jessica Biel and Justin Timber Wolf side note. Thank you Danny. Pellegrino for introducing the term Timber Wolves to refer to you know Justin the guy from in sync ill. Well I thought they'd been doing better after Justin's cheating scandal three months ago. He had been videotaped and I photographed. I should say on a New Orleans balcony and he was very drunk and flirting very hard. Core with his Co Star. He was on a movie set and her hand was on his leg. If I was Jessica Biel I would not be here for it and also if I was Justin Timberlake. I'd be kind of pissed too because I'm sure the man pays people to be around him like making sure his record doing stupid shit if he's going to do stupid shit. It should be behind closed doors not on Bourbon Street. Okay Well Jessica. Biel was out and about without her wedding ring. Yes three months after all that went down and the reason this is most alarming is because I don't remember if people were telling me it was both of them are just justin but he was going on social media just saying how great things were and how much he loves his wife and any time. Somebody's overcompensating like that on social media. You know shit is not good who this is a tough one. We're transitioning to Wednesday going from talking about Justin. We need to talk about Britney again. This is the day everything changed for the free. Britney Movement Britney's youngest son Jaden James not to be confused with the adult superstar. Jaden James. I'm talking about thirteen year. Old Jaden James fetter line as in Brittany and Keif. Ed's son who Lisov he went on instagram. Live and was talking about the situation with his mom. And it is fucking heartbreaking. I saw an article posted on the blast and I took a bunch of screen shots and posted it on instagram. So if you WANNA go to add on this day entertainment on Instagram. It actually fed into my twitter and facebook. Feed as well you can see this fear solve. But I'm GonNa tell you some of the things that Jaden addressed on instagram live. You might want to sit down for this. One thing that he talked about was GRANDPA. Jamie you might have forgotten but maybe within the last year Jamie Aka Britney's dad had gotten a lawsuit against him by Brittany's oldest son Sean Preston. It was very sad to read how the family is so divided. Keep in mind though. That Jamie Brittany's dad is the one who is overseeing her conservative ship and who ultimately has control of Brittany's lives decision making her financial wellbeing. All of that is overseen by her. Dad Who Brittany's oldest son says is abusive. Well Jaden addressed. All of that acknowledged the restraining order. That is big brother had gotten against their GRANDPA. Somebody suggested on instagram. One of the commenters said quote. Kill your grandfather end quote and the thirteen year old responded allegedly with quote Bro. I was thinking the same thing who Fan At that point said. Help your mom break free. And he responded with quote. That's what I'm trying to do and we'll after this video was finished it got pulled very quickly and Jaden account was turned to private all the posts. He made have been deleted from his account. A Fan commented quote. Jaden deleted all of his instagram posts. Please keep these kids in your prayers tonight along with their mother hard. Telling what Britney's team is doing Hash Tag Free Brittany though Jaden and obviously brother Sean. Preston have problems with their GRANDPA. Jamie Jaden actually said he was a quote big Dick he could go die where his dad? I'm so happy to hear that has because you guys obviously as a Brittany I am not on team Kevin Federal Line like ill thank God. Britney has k fed in her life. I can't believe I'm saying this because I guess he's a great dad. Jaden said quote best ad ever. My Dad is literally Jesus and quote. Can we talk about K fed being described as literally Jesus by his son? I mean I'm so glad he's doing an amazing job but I the misuse of the word literally and second. We're not comparing Kafer. Jesus I don't care how good of a doubt. He is drawing a line somewhere and agreed with the commenters that his mom is quote legendary. He also spoke very highly of his grandma. Lynn Jamie's ex wife and yes. Britney's little sister is named Jamie Lynn after her dad and her mom like it's Louisiana people. Would you expect? Jaden said about his grandma quote. My grandma is literally the best grandma in the universe. Which is a very appropriate complement for your grandma. Let's work on that Jaden James with maybe Inspiring a new complement to your father. Because he's not literally Jesus. Okay let's move on to more Wednesday news. Catherine Dennis from southern charm clapped back at an online troll. Catherine Dennis has one of the more boring instagram feeds in my personal opinion and I actually really liked Catherine. Way Too many ads way. Too much like shopping. And who cares who cares. Well she was quote being silly in one of her instagram story videos and somebody direct messaged her asking if she was high and she's screen shot of the conversation posted online and was saying how annoyed she is by people who assume those things anytime. She's just trying to have fun. All I can think about is Katherine. Do you have nothing better to do than respond in my minute fraction of instagram followers that I have compared to Catherine I get so many off the wall deums and a lot of them are like not necessarily very nice if I were to screen shot every single one and post commentary. That's all my feed would be so I can't imagine somebody with Catherine Dennis's stature socially having the time or the energy to do that like girl girl but I do and in Catherine's defense it was relating to her being high which has affected her custody with her horrible ex. Thomas Ravin all so being that it could affect the amount of time and decision making. She has going forward with her children. I can respect the fact that she got upset about that but something I am all in for you guys. I am so happy to be able to finally talk about this with you. Let's talk about. Love is blind again. If you have not watched love is blind do it. So you are ready for Tuesday's bonus episode with Aaron Martin. The couples are married. They've actually filmed the reunion and come to find out. All of this. Love is blind filming was a year and a half ago there have been some updates about the cast and we're going to start with one of the more popular couples. Also one of the controversial couples amber and Burnett. They are planning another wedding. They are still married a year and a half later and their marriage is going really well. They're planning a second wedding just so they can do it. The more traditional southern way as amber described it and they WANNA do Bachelor Parties Bachelorette parties and I was thinking about how weird that is because they're already married so why I mean I just maybe have a different definition of Bachelor Bachelorette party then they do but that just sounds like a party. I don't know though I'm not judging. I'm just glad that they're happy and that there. They made it work. I can't believe that this science project actually worked with them in one other couple and I'll be breaking down that couple in a few days. Let's move to Thursday but stay on. The topic of love is blind so the Netflix show has been getting some heat because the cast is now talking about what was real and what was manipulated. Truth Kenny Barnes of Kenny and Kelly. He did an interview with people and he set the record straight as far as what was real far as their marriage and what wasn't so for Kelly and Kenny. He said that they were adamant about not getting married. And that the engagement was just to extend the experiment and that both parties were committed to that. That was very upsetting to me is. Love is blind fan because we saw such an amazing scene at the wedding. Kelly saying that she couldn't marry Kenny and her leaving him at the altar. He ended up giving a small speech to everybody in attendance handled himself so well. I was like this is a man right here like seriously like at the time. I was watching it thinking that it was real and like Oh my God look if I was not a taken woman. This is a man that you marry like I would throw it away. Drowsing go right on down to that chapel and finish off that ceremony. Good good guy comes out that they had agreed beforehand that they weren't going to get married and apparently contractually they needed to go through with the show and make it to the altar with the families and do the whole Shebang but none of that was real. That was the sound of my heart breaking. And as far as like how the editors do these things and how they're able to manipulate the shows as they do. Kenny had gone on a instagram. Feed and left a comment quote. We made an agreement weeks prior to the wedding day that we were not getting married. Let alone remain being engaged. Our emotions in response to the stress and exhaustion of filming in in quotation marks. It says and of that particular moment and quotation were very much real for the record. The clip of me saying quote. She's the woman I'm supposed to be with and quote was recorded in response to a hypothetical question asked in recorded weeks prior to this day and quo. Yeah so they just take like bits and pieces of audio and layer them into the files in the video files and that's how they're just able to manipulate the storyline so much and give us audience members what we want speaking of giving me what I want. Those of you who've listened to on this day entertainment for a while now. No I love a celebrity couple more than anything at Gosh. It's just such a bonus when I'm actually a fan of both of them on on very vapid level when they're both so beautiful. I'M TALKING ABOUT KATY. Perry and Orlando Bloom. Pop Princess respected actor. They have been dating on and off for years. And May I say that Katy Perry Song? Isn't it really over? Is such a fucking Bob About? Orlando Bloom every day all day. It's one of those signs. It just makes me so damn happy will not only. Are they going strong? But they're having a baby. It's the first child for both Katie and Orlando and the baby was announced via music video. How popper and says is that so? Katie has a new music video for never worn white where you see her. She's gorgeous as always you see her from the front. It's very emotional song. I'm a Katy Perry Fan. I love this song. The last second she turns to the side. And you see her beautiful baby bump. I have chills yet again. Congratulations to Katy. Perry in Orlando Bloom. I can't wait to see them as parents. I can't wait to see this pregnancy. Can't wait to meet their beautiful little baby all of it. I am here for also on Thursday. We learned that Naomi. Smalls from repulsed. Drag Greece is not willing to return to competition life. That made me a little sad because sometimes there's talk of Queens who appeared on repulse drag race all stars like Naomi smalls making a return appearance and she is just not interested while. We're on the topic of Paul's drag race. We're GONNA move onto Friday. I just wrote an article this morning about Sherry Pie. She is one of the contestants currently on Ru Paul's drag race season twelve. It just premiered a couple of weeks ago on. Vh One holy Shit. This is bad. This is really really bad. So I'm going to be referring to Sherry a lot as her boy name. Which is Joey? And it's very Italian so forgive me like good luck Molly Google me. Something like that. Will that Sherry pies boy? Name Cherry Pie is in a lot of trouble as he was cat fishing actors posing as a casting director. Apparently Joey was reaching out to aspiring actors with an alias. He was interacting with them via email as this alias. The alias was Alison Mossy had a alison mossy email account else. Mossy was said to be casting for a new play at the playwrights horizon in New York City Joey. The person behind this fake account was having these aspiring actors. Do some really really vulgar things. He had this whole fake scenario about how they needed to wear bodysuits and the play was Abou- steroid use so they had to get bigger and bigger and it's I don't really want to go into it. I don't WanNa talk about it. It's really gross. But always you can go to retirement dot com to see all of my articles. I wrote that one on Friday the sixth. So if you want to know more about what Sherry Pie did please go look. She did apologize. She went on as Cherry Pie. But in the first sentence of apology she said this is Joey. Doughy did say how sorry he was that he causes such trauma and pain. How embarrassed and disgusted. He is with himself. He acknowledges the pain in her that he caused that. It'll never go away. And how he knows what he did was totally cruel and wrong. And that's that's what he said. So we'll see what happens with Sherry Pie. A lot of people are very upset with the show. What you really can't upset with the show if nobody knows about it but they want him to be off of the show. I don't know how that's GonNa work out just knowing that the show is already in the CAN. You can't really go back and take all that footage away so I'm anxious to see how this all plays out. That does it for this week's on This Day. Entertainment News make sure you head on over to on this day. Entertainment DOT COM. So you can read all of my full articles on this piping hot tea and so much more. Welcome back fanny pack. It's always been fascinating for me to see how the world of entertainment has evolved over the years. So let's take a walk down. Memory Lane and reminisce on some of the juiciest and most monumental on this day events from this week in pop culture history. We're starting off going back. Fifty years a half of a century and I. It's really mind boggling. To think about that the Beatles released their final album let it be in the UK holy crap that means that the Beatles have made no music in the last fifty years. Some of my favorite songs from this album are dig a pony across the universe the George Harrison Song. I me mine so good of course let it be. I mean. Obviously one of the greatest songs ever Maggie may which is just a sad disappointment in comparison to Rod. Stewart's Maggie May but don't get me started and on the B side The one of my favorites is get back so damn good people who don't like the Beatles it's like saying you don't like air like I don't like water like how do you not like the Beatles. I think people who say they don't like the Beatles or just looking for attention and trying to be interesting in different and honestly it makes him sound really dumb to me. But that's just my opinion. Well another. I'M GONNA say monumental music moment it's no let it be but it still a bob in nineteen eighty nine. Debbie Gibson had the number one billboard album on the hot two hundred charts with electric youth her second album. This is the one where she was wearing. The top hat thing with those nice big full bushy bangs Mazing I mean this girl knows how to sing the ballad and one of the many things I love about. Debbie Gibson is that she never sexualize herself to sell records and I would like to make it clear why I'm not slut shaming if that's who you are and that's how you express yourself cool fucking beans like I don't really give a Shit. But that's not who she was and she wasn't just going to give in to the industry that wanted to get her all sexed up and I'll put it out and she was like no. That's not who I am to stick with what I deal and what I know. And it was like super sweet girl next door type songs and she nailed it. This is the album that has lost in your eyes. It has of course the title track electric new anybody elsewhere electric youth perfume. Oh it was so bad and so good at the same time. The song nor rhyme was also on this album as well as we could be together. I mean this girl really saying some deep stuff. But that's Debbie Gibson for you. She's still doing her thing and going strong in nineteen ninety two just a few years later. I thought this was so funny. I am a fan of color. Me Bad one of my favorite Beverly Hills Nine O. Two episodes ever revolved around the great color. Me Bad but it just makes me laugh because people who are like music is so dernie these days and it's like yeah bitch because they won the soul train award for best rb soul single band group or duo and the R&B soul song of the year with none other than I wanna sex you up tick tock get on stop. Oh my gosh. It's so good. If you don't think of the episode of nine to one zero where Donna catches her mom cheating on Dr Martin. I mean seriously you need to go back and watch some nine. Oh Two because that's classic television. We're going to take a real hard turn. Only two years later but a hard turn to nineteen ninety four. This is the release date for nine inch nails album downward spiral. I don't WanNa go deep into this because I've been in kind of a funk on and off lately an downward spiral is an amazing album if you're in a funk if you're depressed downward spiral is maybe a really really good place for you to go. But I'm just going to my toe in that pond and move on one thing that's really funny. Though is this album came out and they were performing in Vegas with their opening act Mr Marilyn Manson so I went and saw Marilyn Manson open up for nine inch nails and I told my mom because I was like thirteen at the time. I told my mom I was going to play practice. And that's not where I was there. I said it all right. Well something that keeps me in. A great mood is Brittany and this was a rough week for Brittany as you heard in the news portion of this week show but a shoutout to two thousand eight piece of me by Queen Britney was number one on the dance club songs billboard chart and boy such a good one and I feel like Britney has spoken so much about her inner demons and the journey. She's been on with fame and celebrity and money and the whole roller coaster that has been her life and career and she's always been saying it but has people does not been listening. I mean going back to her second album with the song. Lucky I mean. Don't get me started there. We could be here for a while but since we're talking about peace of me I mean. This is the one where she sings. She's missus she's too big. No she's too thin. People call instantly commenting on her physical appearance. This is also the song where she referenced `Paparazzi and being able to get away from them. I mean heck she starts off. The first line of the song is ours. She's been in the spotlight and that has been where she has remained. She can't sneak away to the Philippines. She sings about without seeing her booty in the magazine. This was really telling of the time. This is pre social media and this is when the Paparazzi were at their absolute most aggressive. People like Britney Brittany was probably one of the biggest victims of Paparazzi. But this was probably at one of its worst points and that obviously very much affected Brittany as it would any of us because she's a human being y'all and yes. I said human being because I think Brittany would say human being instead of human being just saying piece of me even though it is a very dark tale that she toes. It's done with a really fun. Beat and therefore we danced to it. My favorite is that they even dance in a bathroom during this song. Which is like such Britney thing to do? But that's another story. Wow we're going from Britney piece of me and from one person who's notorious for a breakdown to the next. That was a really really ugly transition and I apologize in Twenty Eleven Charlie. Sheen was fired from the. Cbs Sitcom two and a half men. This was one of the greatest celebrity scandals that I can remember. This was during the time of. Tiger's blood winner winner chicken dinner winning all those catch phrases that were. I don't even want to say made. Famous made infamous. Maybe by Charlie Sheen. This was the time so. Cbs Studio said that they had acted after quote careful consideration he was terminated effective immediately. Charlie Sheen said in a statement obtained by TMZ quote. This is very good news. Okay so with all of the crazy breakdown freak out. Odd Odd is being nice to say that. His behavior at this time was odd. Is the nicest thing I think anybody's ever said but one thing when I was looking up some of his antics I had forgotten about the paid internship that he was trying to hire for. He was searching for an intern to assist him in his work he went to internships dot com and this swear to. God was added quote une looking to hire a winning intern with tiger blood. He hit with a doozy and something else that I read which I thought was very interesting. It took Charlie Sheen only twenty four hours to reach a million followers on twitter and that was a record for the website at that time. I'm not sure if anybody has achieved a million followers twenty four hours since if you know that information. I'm dying to now. Make sure you drop off that fun. Fact in the fanny. Pack Facebook Group. That does it for the nostalgic throwbacks from this week in entertainment history. Now let's finish up with this week's birthdays. We're going way back. I wanted to give a little historical shoutout to Michelangelo. Who was born in fourteen seventy five? Of course he sculpted David. He painted the ceiling of team Chapel. In nineteen forty six can I just say icon of the Gay Community Miss Liza Minelli American singer and actress? She was born in Hollywood. She's seventy four this year. She of course classically starred in cabaret. And can I just say win? Daily subs wishes in one. Thousand nine hundred fifty six Bryan Cranston was born of course from breaking bad and in seventy one jon. Hamm was born. That Gorgeous Gorgeous Man for madman he played Don Draper. Those two shows breaking bad and mad men or two of my favorite all time shows and they just happened to be on at the same time. I mean what age of television all right. Speaking from an age of television this is a real hard transition to the year nineteen seventy-two former real house is of New Jersey's star Dina. Manzo was born of course caroline's sister. She's forty this year on the same day. In seventy six Freddie prints. Junior was born in the next year. James Vanderbeek was born on the same day in seventy seven so that was a very good day for those of us who grew up watching. I know what you did last summer. And Dawson's creek such greet `projects in Nineteen eighty-one Lydia. Oh my God. What was her last name? Mcglaughlin is that it Lydia McLaughlin. This is sad. I just Google dot real fast and I typed in liberty and the third thing down said Lydia mcglaughlin teeth and that's how I know I was right one mall. I mean. That's Homey seen. Did you guys hear that rumor? That Lydia mcglaughlin that her sister is on below debt sailing yacht that her sister is Jenna. The chiefs still well. I did a little investigating. 'cause I was like. Why isn't this something that we're talking about because it's fake? Somebody made that shit up and spread it around. Lydia is thirty nine this week. So happy. Birthday to Lydia and we will finish off the birthdays this week with nineteen eighty-three country crooner. Carrie underwood of course from American idol was born in Oklahoma. Y'All my mom loves Carrie underwood like an my mom. Just thinks she's the most beautiful girl. She loved her on American idol. Love that season. I even remember that Bo bice was the one who performed against her. Who came in second and I only know that because my mom was so obsessed with American idol this year. We'll carry that really bad accident and stayed out of the public eye for a while and came back. She had to have like some reconstructive work on her face. So I is somebody who is very sensitive to people getting plastic surgery in lying about it. I knew to go into this situation differently because I mean she's actually a person who needed the plastic surgery to reconstruct her face. Unlike everybody else well unlike most people who do it for cosmetic reasons while she came back and her face looked pretty much same months and months and months later. Here we are in. She's got a new face. My mom is so upset. Thank you for tuning into on this day. Entertainment the podcast for all your TV and pop culture nostalgia and news from today and yesterday if you WanNa stay in the know. Subscribe to on this date and entertainment wherever you get your podcasts and remember to follow on this day entertainment on instagram. That'll feed over to twitter and facebook. And while you're on facebook make sure you join the fanny pack facebook group. It is a on this day. Entertainment Group where we break down what we talk about on this podcast and everything happening in the world of entertainment around us. You can always deep dive the articles. I write for taste of reality at on this day. Entertainment DOT COM. You can also find on this day entertainment. 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I'm GONNA stop the name out in the name of the episode of we saw some really great show. Did you see we saw? Haiti's town was it did you. We can mazing. It was good. I just I can't I don't want to say too much about it but it was awesome. It was such a good show and then we saw jagged little pill ooh the Alanis Morissette and it was. It was a really good show and I like I like what they did with the book to make to make it a show and then we saw which was described. We got free tickets we it was described by my cousin as Mama Mia on crystal meth just so much spectacle how visually I heard. It's stunning amazed. I can't even the I don't WanNa say amazing again. It was just yeah it was. It was so good. Every single detail in the whole theater was was decorated. And I can't even I couldn't even count. How many confetti cannons and then and then fiery Sparkley. I mean just so much talent behind. So here's the thing. I know the movie. The book is the book. Is the book silly. It's a silly whole thing. They did some cool things like changed out some of the music. So it's like now I'm going to be like toxic isn't it now and Lady Gaga. It's the second act opening. Now I'm totally blanking. The Saginaw Song on. I'm fired right now. Romance even say one word one of US can figure out how I'm going to New York at the end of the month to see my brother and we're GONNA WE'RE GONNA see a lot of shows we're seeing I believe. We're seeing doubtfire preview. Bissau fire the musical. I better be good. I know and then for WHO's afraid of Virginia Woolf with Laurie Metcalf is GonNa be playing. I'm so jealous of Plaza Suite with Sarah Jessica Parker and Matthew Project together the company the Revival Company. That sounds good. Hear about it not agenda. I've ever now and then we're going to the gay bars. We went to one called. Oh shoot hello no brain thank you. I know we went to one while I was there. It was a way overcrowded with Bachelorette parties walked out. And I said I feel like there should be a rule where you can go into a gay bar with as a girl as long as you're with your as you just can't go with your other girls. I just it was too. I didn't like it either and I was like I belong here. Y'All don't I heard my fruit. Flies aren't yeah. I wear skirts right. I can't know what that is an interesting topic when he's here when you see especially for a straight woman being involved in the gay community as a fruit fly whatever you WANNA call but somebody. Who's younger girls here? Coming up in like how he say groups of girls going without a gay somebody who's been around the community for so long. How does that? How does how are you going to say? Do you have. Oh my age but I'm always curious about that. Because they know like my my best e she she always has. Lena always has an opinion about that. Well I just I think we you guys talked about this one time too and I was even there but I get it. I get that it's fun to go see drag shows as a Bachelorette party or something like that that that's fine but I'm just thinking they had a sign in this bar that said streak girls know who I was like. I totally get it and I I. I mean it's obviously there can't be a rule it silly to think that but it's it's kind of like. I feel like you need to be with your gay friends if you're going in there. I'm GONNA get emails or hate mail you pussy whiskers that's accurate. Maybe Pussy whiskers for Halloween. What does that look while your face? We have to paint it and then we're going to attach yarn we. We could crochet some. I was thinking more like cats like you're one of the extras from extras in cats even regretted being so it was a big week couple of weeks two weeks. We haven't talked about this on the show. We haven't I don't know yes you guys. Rupa's drag race in twelve is on and we have a lot of a lot is because we didn't cover it so this the newest episode week to just happened last night and all of the Sherry Pie drama. Britta drama has come out so we're going to get into our thoughts of the whole season so far the looks all of that. So let's start with the first episode. Came out a week ago with that. The the original which was and so. We're not worried about spoilers. Because we figure out spoilers happening yes just just know that people still let me pull up the list so last week's episode so good so so I mean it was amazing. I haven't been excited about drag race and I like I like I was watching it and screaming at the TV. Screening loved it. It felt a little bit like a little bit like season. Four drag race. Deering people that I could really see myself kicking it with or beginning friends with it was really really nice. They did a great job in it was just so refreshing to see drag race back to old school dregs and Roop Hollick amazing. Oh she had her face polled. So do we know that how knowledge as we know. I applaud her for doing it. I know nothing. Maisy that's funny. I totally didn't even I just was curious. What can we do to waiting? So she's like sixty to do it like I'm ready for a face lift now. We now call me Daddy. Pull me up hold last weekend now. Getting so for the first for the first episode it was. Let's Britta where I really like. She within little. Yeah not a good week. I don't know about what happened to her. I know about Cherry Pie by audience. What happened let's start with British for so what was the drama with? Britta is that she had allegations of sexual harassment against her that a couple of other drag performers and people had said that but she came on the show. Yeah Yeah So. She came out not from the season. The Seasons Oh oh back in New York. Yeah so she came out with a statement after talking to lawyers because it took a couple days and she came out with a statement denying all of it and just giving her explanation leaving it at that okay and that was her drama and so far there hasn't been any repercussions on rupaul. Drag Racer anything and it definitely got overshadowed by the diary done. Sherry which we're going to talk about an is so the first episode was Britta Crystal Meth favourite crystal meth aid. Let's G good. Yes who looks like a serial killer out of drag? I'm just GONNA say that. He looks like he's like chops up. Bodies and hydrogen in the trunk of Honda Civic. Tell me I'm wrong. I'm not a bad thing. I'm saying he looks a little home aside homicidal because like what were coca staring at us and high he in closet. Yeah Jackie Cox Let's see who else does is Nikki. Doll was on the first one. And Yeah Widow von do so. All of those were the first episode. A what an incredible group of Girls Karema Party so the. What did you think of the workroom? Why like who is who hit for you. Miss Marianne the workroom. When they first come in and you make that interest you give your one liner. Yeah well for the Soda. I wasn't crazy with anybody's one liner to open with. I thought those could more But however Britta to start off with the bitches painted you cannot argue that. Her bag is absolutely stunning. I loved it. Her veneer stick out farther than her titties. Do as she looks like. She's constantly eating an apple like when she talked. Gosh I I love it very death like Hillary dying watching tints name. You're now watching. Vh One. I thought the outfit was very much like that was announced that I could see myself wearing the pink with the Leopard. Oh yeah the piping. I thought that was great. So good Yeah that was and the crystal method. Of course just you know. I Love A campy. Kooky Yuki Weirdo shave so far actually like I know a lot of people were if he on her and they were like. Herwig is bad greenland because she came in and the clown. Yeah but I I am enjoying her and I just love how everything's high and gray. I really enjoyed. Oh we'll get to the room but who else Who Else in that episode? Oh G G good comes into the outfit was great. She really is the pirate the oil and her her mom's a costumes. Her mom makes Oliver Shit radical. She's definitely going to be like the. Look Queen Obviously and. She says that she has comedy and stuff behind it. We'll see not seeing that yet. We'll be the more I'm leaving you unread. The the song that was an Nikki massage was like I wanNA steal that lineup. Your favorite Derek workroom. Walk Ins. I don't know I it. So my favorite who was like my standout favourite surprise for me was Heidi and closet. That's locked in. I wasn't that interested but then once I heard the story and like Oh. I'm in love. And her mom run out. Carolina people where the chicken outnumber the papal her during her. Meet the Queen's. I'm America's next drag superstar because you ain't never had a clean with the gap as big as mine. Three-quarters bonaire I. I'm obsessed with the Queen. I also love when she went to Nicki Minaj and was like what about my face. Don't you like Oh an actor. Who else did you like Eric. I mean I licked Britta. I thought she was the liquor next. We're going to have sexual allegations against it. Would it be the verse make doll I thought his banning own? Y'All yeah boy also is really you know he's gorgeous. No but I have a little little crush on him. I did like to. I'd fight you. Okay well I don't I asked him. I like Nikki dolls. Look Yeah Yeah I read. It was my top Britta. I loved what she wore. I love her walk. She was great. I liked Jackie Cox. I like her cookie old school style. Drag Jackie caucuses the hottest toy of the season. And anybody who thinks otherwise? I agree with Larry Hi God. He's Yes Giora. I WANNA his hairy back. He's got a rug down there. It's not Harry because he's going to learn how to actually cover it up take out is correct. He's pushing problem and I have to say. Gee Gee could get it. Now was my favorite from the I. I mean I love. I love but as soon as it panned to her. She's like I know they're big is in the browser teeth. And I'm like you may see and like you probably stabbed a bit. She probably as I gotTa stab a bitch. That's what I'd say. Anybody got a knife kidding. Can't getting on that Okay who else was in the in the first group that we miss. Oh and do you think a widow? She's she's actually really talented not wanting to like her. That's where we're allies and I'm like. Oh she's really talented. I I don't know. She seemed kind of complaining through the episode. I know it's empire it's editing but then the like lip sync battle with the bending of the legs and like I've never seen anything like that took her shoes off for it. Yeah so the the those were intra looks. I really liked I. It was solid I episode. Where does my least favorite inter look because there's just a bodies it was some feathers on it? Yeah but that's just that's just my opinion on that I think the best entrance look was definitely Britta and yeah I would agree with Crystal Chris. Crystals was different. Yeah she I love. What did you guys think of? Uh the very first the fall and runway. Yes I just love. I think all of these girls have to be committed because they had to turn out five outfits for this I Eight entrance spring fall the performance and the runway right five outfits. Yahtzee LINE EPISODE FOR THE FIRST ONE. That is insane. So who is your favorite for the fall? Spring or spring fall run whether we're two different ones bringing them fall the whole that combined. You know it's weird. It was a mini challenge. Fucking Caccia said because they did that. In season seven Spring Kaci goes. This is not a mini challenge. This maxine mini challenge with wings. Things got league. Yes I thought okay so I'll say this as a precursor Brita filter. Both dresses were great. It was the same fucking dress for spring and fall. Same Silhouette yes. They were fine. I think who stood out really for Spring. I like dolls and a light. Jeez with The horse DG's so would've do with missy Elliott Neon neoprene spring spring. Her biker. The PASTEL Pastel. I don't remember spring. What was it was the pink Yellow Blue Biker? It was like all kinds of pastels motorcyclist logo with. She's the one that had like a helmet for just about every love which was so such a good idea to though to be well like I'm going to do one in every one of these because there are five. Look what I've done. Yeah matter of Heidi and closet her wardrobe malfunction. That was ugly. She wore that behalf. The Lion King or something Lisa Frank Lion Own affirms Rumsfeld South Carolina and toppled off of her big house. She's walking but I think the pay off of that and getting I think the best quote of the season so far is civil rights. I tell him you could see the duct tape. I have been saying that today. Danielle's friend of the PODCAST. If you haven't heard her episode IV Naomi when she's like oh I can see civil rights. My favorite look though yes out of both runways crystal methods Freddie Krueger with the band aid the band aid dig the safety pin runs. Joan does needles was. This mother was good because I would like to think if I had to do a fall. Runway Challenge. I would do something like that. I think I would do a Mariam. Does Elvira is what happened to my take on Elvira Pastel Elvira pageants Elvira. No what. I'm curious rob you watch these Pastel vibrator what do you think? Because they know you'll care the one who's like what are they doing? Like why are they? Your rob is the one that's like. I don't think I think they should have a different. I'm silhouette I I can't remember exactly nevermind. Mind during your mic off. Everyone starts doing a rob impression. Has a Robin Tony? Who else was a didn't care for was the widow. Von Do just BEIGE ON BEIGE ON BASE. I E the fall one. That was fall. I with somebody like Michele. Somebody liked it and I was. I can't remember maybe it was Carson did like Rupaul like she's from the House of La Bays you Carson. No that was Rupaul. Which if you don't know that reference to your God watch Paris burning and educate yourself have you have you never seen. Paris is burning life-changing documentary. It's only do it. Hour and ten minutes on. Netflix filmed in ninety one. Ninety two and the ball seen in Harlem great documentary edible. You'll cry you'll laugh. Yeah it's stunning off while no it's the same queen documentary. Yes watched it with Crystal Asia. I died a thousand. It's also on Netflix. Nine hundred sixty seven Miskelly USA. I'm my favorite part is. They're all in the motel six pack doing their group choreography. All JUST CHAIN SMOKING. Fucking misty's misty one twenty s well. Darling. I think you should go and then win the fight. Maybe I should have been up that if you haven't seen queen documentary about and it's about the pageant and say gay USA and it's so good. I honestly I'm like we're doing the same shit like when the one queen was like. I need my spirit gone. I know I find it. Go to the store now so here. I did see another documentary recently. It's called wig about wigs stock in it and a whole bunch of people and I thought how by not seen this it was on HBO. But I don't think I was so good. It was so good and I learned a lot. I really what could you learn jenny putting him on the spot well? I didn't know there was a wig stock and I didn't realize that they brought it back so face. Thank you on the spot right now. The gauge occasion of I think it's more like the history. I learned a lot of history stuff about where things started. Who Started. What and why things are done this way and that way and you don't want me to sit here and explain it all. We have another. We have a podcast to exit line. What did you think of? Let's see what happened. It was so the main challenge was added your rap and then choreographing themselves. Yes which is fucking shady. You know in the episode. It's hiding in closet and widow von. Do who are set to choreograph. Are they get picked from the team? Right there wasn't. I didn't think there was a whole lot of drama with that. There wasn't it was more like widow. Just getting frustrated. Heidi spitting through a front teeth. A lot somebody kept trying to interject someone who didn't want to have how responsible now. I can't remember who it was. It was Britta Britta poking and then the other girls were just like. Oh yeah and then just like. Hey if you ask these people to do it let them just do it exactly. I feel that way too way too nicki. Menaj as a judge. One of my favorite judges ever and I love that she straight up looked at Heidi and was like I hate hate hate. Hate hate your hair and makeup. Today rupe hates her name. I often yeah usually what I think hiding closet will be on season six with a new name. Oh six of all stars I I just I just feel like I just feel like what a great branding opportunity that from the get go they have just like all been like everybody's Kate your name hate your name. Hey Yeah and then all the minder name I totally see. I think she's going to be an all stars regardless. I don't really see her winning her name. Either I think it's cute. Heidi strike me okay. So they had to do the performance. And I gotta say when they did the rap performance. They were all really. It's not not really not really weak in the whole thing and they were funny. Yeah like great dancing. It was the combination was just it was timing. It was stunning. It was a great episode. So runway looks dark runway. So as long markle on the runway and misprinted fields. It came out in the silver that silver body suit. Do you remember. No I need to pull up. It's going to Sam trying to such an idiot. I'm over here tapping my screen thinking like this and it's not. Oh God oh she had the like what it was. She had that hairpiece that went back and it was all silver disco e to me. It wasn't there peplum skirt. Yes woodlake peplum me chair I what did you think? A crystal Meth AIDS devil. Look it was very reminiscent to me about puff. Girls him the villain him. Yeah little bit of that. I what did you think Marriott? It was fine. I just thought it was a little predictable. Weird girl and I'm GonNa come out as the devil. I've always a little bit too textbook. You know what I just like. Oh I'm the weird girl. I'm I'm the Kooky Spooky girl and I'm GonNa come out as the devil. Well executed. I also I think just from working in the nightclub scene and stuff. I'm just like if I see one more homosexual address. Angel or Devil Halloween. I'M GONNA eat. That is Halloween. Is The GO-TO last minute? Like Oh my God. I'm going to be a Damn Laraine Jong because I'm a girl or a ban by all they wear is like us know. How much is the cover? I get no. I know Johnny. No I know Johnny was Halloween bit. Anybody I know I know okay Bob. No they wear Red Speedo extrap- not even know strap. Yeah and then they put horns. On cupid in the Boeing through my heart. I'm wounded. Oh yeah while. You're studying Heyhoe Second Down Vodka Soda at one forty five in the morning on riches. Trying to figure out WHO's KNOB YOU'RE GONNA slob on. Don't talk about she's not. I'm not gonNA maybe a little okay G. G. goods runway with the helmet again black helmet the p the sorry green like. She was at Green Mary. National I e door green and that was the lovely shade of an IRIDESCENT. Abe like Parrado Pastel. It was it was like a pantsuit with with boats and helmet. Oh Yeah it was. I think if she thinks she won all the looks I really I mean I feel like all of the fashion auto hundred percents. All of hers were my absolute favorite. Heidi and closet her sparkling No WIG was bad. It was just a silver gown and a silver mop on the head and a silver earrings. It was just a yeah. I love her though. I haven't heard like number one fan. Okay Jackie Cox. We didn't talk about any of her. Looks exactly I like the for spring? Yeah but they're all kinds of she's given us three like sixty silhouette. I love that. I love that gene hand. I do too far. Eat Do that for spring fall. And you're why not well who set so apparently marry him but I was GonNa say maybe if she's going to do like again helmet theme to the helmet if she keeps going with it. Maybe then we're all right. Ads also gave you helmet biker helmet now. I know I mean so. She took it. But Jackie was all just very kind of like. I liked everything that sixties. I love their spring. One was my face. Yes okay next one you guys wooded you think Nikki doll for her final final runway of body would. Would you not like yes was really cool? It looks heavy done in yeah. It looked like a winner. It was Really County. It was very like almost kind of the committee will night like a suicide bomber type type. Okay I remember there. Scrolling yet loved it. I love anybody you know. I love a bit. She wears a platinum white or silver hair. You know I love it. I know all of her looks. I really did okay. Last one was widow. Fondue hers was forgettable for me It was that silver with the pink piping. Oh it was like I know. She's a big bitch but oh my God. She looked like a California King Mattress. Walking DOWN THE WAY. I was like nothing for her and and it just I don't. I'm not really into that. Whole like the xenon space. What we thought the future is going to be thing. I just think it's unless you're doing a specific number for it. I just don't think it's really team. I don't think ever translates into fashion for me on. Who the winner of this episode. Yes right so then okay. So the runway looks. Everybody got really good. Critiques from the judges except for Artie of I thought Nicki Menaj was a great great. Judge gave her a lot of airtime notice that she had good things to say that it was clever and funny and she was entertaining. You could tell. She listened to what they were saying like gave specific feedback with judges. Don't ever do right right. I I liked her. I wish they would have her back on. Can you imagine the episode two girls when they find out? Oh my God who is a special judge last week Nikki massage. Talk like they're like we we guy and the girl from West where swirled. What's her name exactly always know she was great being so the episode ended with nobody getting kicked off. They had a battle out g good and widow von do what did you guys think of this lip sync. I will started go. I haven't seen people on the Internet comparing it to an all-time great lip sync such as the Elissa Tatyana from season all-star season two and I will say it was a good thing but it was not no level of all stars Tatiana. No it's not that level of Mariam is that people were starving for great great season opener for Rupa's drag race which we haven't had for. How many seasons now like I think. Because they're all great. Yes they're all great but this particular season premiere which just really great. Allie was ru Paul's drag race at its finest setup. I maybe that's why people were like. Oh my God this is the best thing. I don't get me wrong. It would lip sing. Digi good and widow did great but like how different they were. The things that we're doing we're so different that I was trying to pick one. And I'm like no and saving Nicki Minaj felt the same way. Just like shoot kept. You kept seeing her. Do like you know looking at both of them. I was very prepared for gee-gee to not do anything interesting because I just felt like we hadn't seen we've seen some stuff but was really creative unfunny and took it into different direction. So she kind of set us up to because she was like. I'm not comedy I mostly looks. And then she's like Bam I'm funny. Yeah yeah I thought it was great. Yeah I really did. I thought it was great. I kind of knew how. Gd Good performed. I I've seen her work before and I thought it was great. I thought she could have kept her shoes on. But I can't do that with my leg shoes on. Whatever y'all have a girl know I mean I just thought all around a plus the world of NBA? Yes and the casting firm and everyone i. That's good just keep up. The good work work casting firm guy and we'll get into that when we come back from this break we're going to get into the second part of the pre mirror that premiered Friday. All of the Sherry. Piedras how you know. 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That pie is a Pi on shalish expired. If I'm ever on repulse drag racing Sherry rupaul. Can I have your cell phone number? I have loudly acting pod Fargo. I would like oh. I'm making our time like the grand a little bit like James Mason. Not The grandma can't cancel on that again. That is you have to share. Don't anyone else it's MIRA's we heard it. Oh my God that is two favorite is I wanted to go first. Jan Jan Jan Jan. She's I like her now. You know about her name right yes I think she started to someone said believed it out so her drag name is Jan sport like the eighties. Athletic wear so. That's why she came in in a baseball outfit and thing is a baseball tea by holding it. But I'm assuming that they were going to try to get the copyrights for her and then when she got there it was all planned out and then they couldn't and sport makes backpack also the same back for filter neighbor day. It's just bread. I wondered came in and said Y'all thirsty and chugged the water. Yep Yep I got that part. So why didn't they do that? For trixie Mattel I could because trixie with Mattel is different than the actual brand name where it's great Sport becomes a problem in prints whenever they print anything. Then shame was tell you. I got that the stretch details SCIPIO. That's a great. That's a great king name. If somebody wanted to do like a Ken doll would be a great drag character like a dumb as rocks like Kendall as your character. Okay there you go. You heard it here on. Who invited her? Tell us why these two I'm I'm a lawyer and off the top okay. So the intiatives for episode to the luck. Few is your favorite or the second second round of this. It was just last night. I know I can do this. We watched it today. Yeah and I thought well just because we talked about it and I just remember transport was cute. I would have been so much better. If we could get the full Jan sport fantasy of everyone knowing that her name is Chancey but I thought it was. I was like okay. She went a little company for day. One what did you think of Aden? Zane I was just going to say I. I think that was my favorite look with the black. It was just so different and then the little the the I liked the way he doesn't make this. It was so like I sorry. It reminded me of like. I'm I'm making an face like Humpty dumpty it reminded marsupial attacked you fucking Bitch Mariam's like Tony Never again and again. I'm available the way that they're maybe think of some kind of scary fairy tale book that I saw when I was a kid where the pictures were not cute. They were like tennis query. And that's what it was like a scary Humpty dumpty face or something like a scary like Oliver like all of her family are normal fairies and then she walked up. I just thought it was different and it was cool. Yeah I don't know if I'll stick with that but for the first look I was like that's cool. What did you think Dalia Sin I? I'm sorry but couldn't get behind or high run over behind our next to it. No you can't. You cannot do a lift share with me. No Idea I didn't enjoy your show naming eleven a period when she got on the Red Sea word on the runway wasn't Brady's I'd just a huge fan so when I heard that she was from the House I was like work and then I was like ooh that beard stubble though year. She's gorgeous like there as man and she's gorgeous in drag I think when she paints correctly she was not painted correct. I was going to be honest. I kind of felt like she came off very insecure. And and scared do you. I mean hundred. I think the VIBE and I I kind of went to. Oh maybe it will get easier for you like she was just overwhelmed and so she was like you know why she came off too cocky and like. Oh yes totally. Just doing it. The other side where salvage later in the episode said. She's sexy but she's forcing Michelle. The same person well before I think I think a lot of the girls that aren't that are more look queens rather than girls like myself. Who are actually showgirls? Cost you run. Egypt Gas is structured. It's this it's that they get into that environment of the TV show in like the biggest drag of your life. But if you're just a look queen and you're like hi. I'm coming up here dancing to this song which is fine. Yeah I think you get thrown into that thinking like I'm the prettiest. Everyone thinks I'm Gordon and you're like oh. Wow this is a damn show. That never happens to you okay. I know I have to work. You know what I mean. Nobody here the prettiest and they don't realize they're surrounded by dozens of cameramen and catering people numbers not listening. I'm joined the sound of my own. Fucking voice now so okay. Jada essence hall. What did you think I mean I kind of don't remember? That's what I think like like I disagree men that she is a buck haw men. I'm kind of with Janney. I'm like she's okay. Maybe later. Yeah things is done and I've seen so many queens that are like that I guess on this show was bored of Queen like and when I meet them like did too good in the channel. And that's what I say so later on it did get better. I think I think because I was raised by when I very first started. Drag was raised by like southern pageant. Girls that I have a thing for. Just that cool off jewelled cinched figured dripping and like. I just have a thing for like women drag because I'm clown that when I see like women drag on like that's not what I do and I'm like you bet a bitch conc- I'm opposite. I'd rather have the clown ear the same and I think that that's why we love you so it wasn't that word. Obviously it was beautiful and there is a lot put into it. It was just I think. Just the whole thing and like the the coming out and saying something was just like okay pretty next. Where did he? I like that more than the young. Look I like that more than just like the heart and the those kind of Queens I just I'm pageant girl okay. Rock Gums Kura. What did you think I li- of loving her? I never thought she is going to annoy the fuck. Outta me absolutely not totally different from what I thought. Oh McQueen's the anime. I love her coming in the room and just rubbing herself all over the all over this. Oh I love that. He's built like a little tie. Put Him on my face of Drag Uni rock ally. He's really is me. I don't really remember her. Her intrinsic was like fine. I remember the white bodysuit with shoulders. Berry Draghi Yeah my my only critique is the makeup looks like Trixie Mattel to me like a little reminiscent data style now. She takes it like all the way down to her nose. Though she's like a power girl. Yeah I I think. With the fine. Tuning of touring and stuff. She's GONNA add a couple more elements that are going to separate her a little bit from. Yeah they Kimchi and the Trixie Matab. Kimchi reverend keeps getting thrown. She's really surprised me I I. I'm rooting for from episode. For sure I thought what you thought at first and then I just kept looking at Michael. It is different and maybe she's going to change it. I I also I like her. I like her right now. I hope she makes it far enough that they push her to do like a Glam. Look I would be really interested how she turns such a distinct face. Well she'll be so pretty glamour. She'll be real good. The last one Cherry Pie. Ooh This found out it was rhubarb. I likes rhubarb talking about big buyer band. I Love Cherry Pies so her. We just learned everybody When when she came out in their first dress I loved it that outfit. Yes Oh good evening artless of should we talk objectively about her as if it didn't happen. I and critique her I think so yeah. Let's do that and then we'll bring up the drama if anybody hasn't heard of what happened with Michelle Esteban entrance that Look Sherry Pies looks whoever her seamstresses New York City if you go through her instagram page. Look after look at her Roger Rabbit. Have you seen that credible her looks? He'll be it in her instagram. Really Really WanNA become a fan. What I don't like I love camping. I don't like that. There's any color in her face. It's just brown white and black. What it reminds me of is Devine's makeup like very much like faces and I'm like Whoa I keep seeing divine. I love that I just need a little bit of blush in there. There's no tone. There's no depth. There's no it's just it's just brown. White blood tone in so gentle. Stay low total okay. So there are. Many challenge was the same. It was the passion Spring and fall. So who are your looks? Who did you like? Couldn't you didn't like all of that. Good stuff I have to say. That's the point in which I fell asleep and so now I have to go out of. I was so exhausted last night. You guys go. I will say in comparison to season one. They dropped the ball. I objectively didn't like either one of Sherry pies. I thought they were both awful. I agree I didn't like the padding the black like it didn't I didn't like the mother of the bride cut of the black. I didn't like the pilgrim hat. I didn't like the Double Chin into the I. Listen I do but it wasn't proportionate. My biggest thing was Joe. Johns all look really construction like Lizard alone could have been the best look of the entire episode if she would not have worn those thigh high black boots because it completely covered up the texture at the bottom of the dress and it swallowed her up. And you see anything. So the bottom of the dress it was it was black tail. No it was green boots. I thought it completely. It just didn't give her any kind of shape. Well wrong I I agree with you. Mariam. No I short boot even would have been. I thought the now I WANNA lack made. It's fucking sexy. Sling back would have taken it to this poison. Ivy seductress. Look and like what? Have you long gated her? I felt I look. I feel like it made her look shorter because of her skin. Okay and that's my final. Say on that. Judge Malik O. J. Go the wiggle your. Let me wiggle your cord. Bake all right. Okay flared up soccer sacre. Would you think I like that? She did her own anime on the first look painted herself. I thought it was very cute. The second one again. I don't remember the second one. It was fine. I don't really remember it either but I remember thinking it was fine. It's you have watched this. But that's what this runway really just thinking about is episode one runway. Yeah me too. Who has to his. Okay she had that Marie Antoinette the very first thing and then her fall. I don't really. I don't really remember spring. I remember her fall. Was like this like lavender gray suit type of thing. Oh like she. When she walked into the store like Eric said and point Gimme all not nordstroms and said I want to buy it all? Yeah very that I thought what you do. There's one more that just popped into my head now Jan. No Oh dally all yes okay. The spring count it was odor neon blue with orange hair. I would have chosen a different airing. You know how I feel about color COMBOS. I thought it was great. Her fall was why it was so ugly. She looks like a black poodle. That just got out of surgery like the poodle got ripped. It looked like they took a poodle black poodle and put it in a paper shredder. And we're like Oh shit we fucked up and then tried to put it back together but it didn't work with one little line of. I thought it was weird and so ugly guy said they're mad so their their challenge was somewhat of the first but they had to do a Fossey number me on I got back in. Said he's bossy number and they were like what's I so I must have been falling asleep. I was falling saving waking up and it kept trying to start over and do remember that and I got pissed at my come on kids. You need to know Bob Fosse cut. Some Fossey is at the bare from the muppets. Yeah I walk. I walk walk but what I loved was in in a the interviews. They had Dalia Sin and the and she's like. I left awesome producer. O- film like what would be. Which one do you like a faucet? She couldn't name one. Come on that point go okay. Yeah every time I hear foster that I just think of you. Do fosse's much Graham Graham. I love the birdcage. Oh my God I love us. It was great. I was happy with this. So Jan and Cherry Pie. We're the ones that kind of they kind of. Put It on them. Oh and rock to do the choreography for the challenge off Falah Parts J. Terrible oh no Jada just wouldn't shut up. Yeah she's a whiner yeah. This is too hard. Nobody's listening to me. Nobody's respecting my opinion. Nobody has to just do it. Stopped talking how shady of the producers to make them choreograph their own. I loved it though so you could do it could do. It doesn't mean I want to well it does kind of step up. It does kind of. It's almost like on survivor. You say I'll be the one that calls the shit or whatever you're like you're the one that's on the chopping block four the the actual challenge when they did the number who stood out for you with the lyrics the dance and all of that. Eric Mariam since Jenny Pastel. I love that rock soccer. I made a joke and I'm not even a fire person. Not really my favorite and they hated it but I thought it was funny. Yeah Wrong Cherry. Pies was great. I thought that Jan Jan was amazing. I thought it was good. I thought except for you could see his tiny well yeah you his padding and the Tuck is all wrong. He has potential yeah. I don't think I don't think he's ready yet. He's really young. Yeah yeah they shouldn't really be teaching you how to tack on Season Twelve of drag race. But I will say that he is from a little town and doesn't really do drag at the least attention and he's on the fucking Chelsea. You can't Goddamn thing brain. I enjoyed it. I enjoyed his performance. I've got a real sense of what he doubtful. Eric's yeah yeah. Those are the standouts so the judges were only really critical of Dalia. Sin As they should be pretty. Well what did you think of the tool runway man? I couldn't look at it because I couldn't take my eyes. I forgot I know I could see. What's your fucking beard. You fucking Queen. You have to know how to make. That's all you have. What Robbie actually love? Jade is yellow dress in the tool. So we're talking to Dolly ascend. The Red Not all black people look the same Rob Rob. No I was just saying think I liked them one. Oh the yellow and again okay. Great I liked the toy. Thought it was really good. I thought everybody look pretty. Cherry pies was stupid. It looked like detoxing jellyfish dress. Yes stupid and Janet ords was the only one who sorry Jan Jan. I heard all but it was creative. I love that I'm bringing the T. O. L. to the T. CLEVER. I like Iraq. I thought she went over the top bands. Oh insane I love nine hundred yards tool for real. Yes very excited and they wanna get crazy about it but I was was like. Here's the thing if arena war that you actually do know what. It reminded me the season Finale Sarah Jessica Parker in sex in the city where she falls with all the tool and he goes under the layers. Fashion I love de I thought it was great. So the top two. Because they didn't they didn't knock anybody off this week again. But the top two did not on the episode only had ways Jada and Sherry Pie harassing for a cash cash. Typify thousand how was that? They both did good in their own way with there was a lot of Mariam. And Sheri's Yeah I Mitch. Step off my fucking lip sync. She did it very my favorite part of Sherry pies though was when she when she call your girlfriend and she did the rotary phone back over to the judges also hysterical. The reasons and she's writing a paper. I love that is very like my style yes so I have to commend that. Jada one that the cash tip in all of them were safe. Jada had the best runway to La. I love and she ripped off the long shorten black curly yellow sing. Yes okay. Her color wig to that so good. Yeah I liked. I liked by China but all in all the way. The episode ended was the Queen's from episode to walk in the workroom and they see the Queen's from episode one and they're like squaring down looking at it the next thing they're gonna go hug that's how they always do but all in all. I THINK EPISODE ONE OF SEASON. Twelve was incredible. Still Good. We're still and I liked the I love that they split it like that. I thought it was fun and different. And I I will quote Rupaul from one of my favorite quotes of his and I would describe episode to as and I'm not sure I'm not sure if episode one was so damn good that we thought it was mad or it was truly matt or do you think it was because of the Sherry Pie drama. That's came out this week. That was better than the show building. This time. The desert was better than the main courses. Okay Miss Mariam. T- Phyllis on the job because they know your reading up on it with Ms Sherry by what happened. I love the approach thank you. I thought you might sing so so for those of you don't know a Cherry Pie. Had allegations against her for being a sexual Predator allegedly allegedly so she posed in what she did was. She met her no. It's not supposedly. She she admitted to it. Publicly on esquire. Thank you so. She was friends with this person in real life. So as a boy posed as Alison Mossy. This made up casting directors assistant and so it was feeding him stuff in person while carrying on as Alison Mossy via e mails and things like that overtime sent him money. So the thing the part was fresh new show called bulk where a guy bulked up and got bigger and bigger and bigger throughout the show so sherry was encouraging person to work out a way to see foot. Yes also that sounds like a great show. I WANNA watch point. All she has only you should do with their careers right a Goddamn play about it. So she was apparently sending this guy money to buy steroids and encouraging them to use steroids and also sending him money in lieu of like in the in between time before getting the actual job and was talking about like all travel arrangements. How everything would work. And apparently eight hundred videos were taken one person how this one guy and she came forward so this happened last year so obviously when Alison Mossy went silent while they were filming drag race he got super suspicious confronted him and and got lawyers involved in December and NBC posted that. Wow Oh she's apparently in therapy right now. I read her apology. That she's center that too and I. It's it's really sad I it's sad. She's not well that's really what and I'm I'm not. I'm not saying it's okay. Because whole gap fishing thing is disgusting and I can't stand that that happens but but at the same time anybody doing that. Kind of stuff is not well and I for the Submitting the videos just like do your homework but but I can totally see people getting caught up and stuff and I. I feel so like at the same time. It sounds like I'm saying you know she's not well in that sad to have something like that happened to you. You just feel like how will I ever trust anybody again. We're how am I going to get there? Just got to be more like just more aware. I know it's never know you never know I'm telling you. And when and when you sit there and you say okay well yes. This was done by somebody who's quite mentally ill and so to have to look out for someone who looks and talks like the rest of anybody else you know but have to try to read beyond that. It's it's tough I can. I can understand and she had such a strong of episode this week to yeah clearly from the get go whenever you're top contenders for shoe. Vh One released a disclaimer. Saying that Sherry Pie has been disqualified and will not be in the final and the beginning of the episode and at the end of the road to both places so they're going to air the season as everybody else so I my feeling is. She is definitely probably in the top. Four three maybe alleged which is for me. I'm thinking like how is she going to appear on the show and is that going to change anybody's viewpoints of her over the next few weeks of the show I have to say. I'm sorry. I'm just jumping right but I I read the disclaimer. Then I started googling then I looked to see what Mariam had decided. I just wanted to see I knew she would know in so I was seeing if there was a reaction it was just a motive con-going. Yeah Wow of course you're just like here's some information but I was gonna say I loved her. Everything she was doing till till this lease sleep woke up and look what happened. I mean I loved her look I thought she was funny talking in the little bit I was like Oh shit crazy and I'm feel bad you know and I I have to say I probably would have been team a chance to pass. They very very interesting problem to deal with the season to figure out how this plays out and how she does on the show and how they deal with it and how they yeah. I I'm I'm in marketing and I do not envy their jobs right now so hard. It was interesting on on social media especially twitter. People were really harsh. Sherry by like viciously mean where it's like okay. This person obviously has a problem yet. They're going to get help. You don't need to wish them death or harm now or any of this other. You know what I mean. The punishment deserved their disqualified from the show. You know really also be some legal action is yeah but I mean to wish harm on the high just. I don't think that's ever okay. But I get when people especially if they were victims of something similar. I I but but that being said anything about people going Blah Blah Blah on social media pisses me shut your face. I mean sometimes you might post something. Even someone has a comment. But the trolling shit is ridiculous. On all waste of your time all the time to do something better. Well also. This person admitted it. So that's a big step there and clearly is now getting help so like let's let's let that person get there to help because I'm thinking okay. She's she's I'm going to get book. She's going to have a hard time in her career is over. So it's like okay. She knows that she's dealing with that letter. Deal with it let it have. It doesn't need to be in that light. I agree and I think we need. We sucks for the victim and for her the both sides there so I think the victims are absolutely if that had I would want to say you know fuck that person I get it that. They're not well also they really messed with me and my psyche but at the same time anybody who is just glomming on fuck off. Yeah honestly you heard it here. First Buck off. Let's see whiskas says fuck one hundred percent agree with? I do have to say it's going to be a very interesting season bad for the other girls. 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RuPauls Drag Race Season 12 | Episode 12 Ru-Cap

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RuPauls Drag Race Season 12 | Episode 12 Ru-Cap

"Hello Hello Hello and welcome to Ru Paul's drag race roucab here on reality. Tv wrap up. I'm your host the Ana Boris. We are here to talk about episode. Wealth of Paul's drag race season twelve. Yes the penultimate episode. We will get a reunion in there though but we go down to our essentially final three queens although we will talk about if they will remain the final three. Queens we shall see well. Let me introduce our wonderful panel with us. Here as always our very own showgirl. Walk Brent. How're you doing really Boris? Happy to be here to talk about. Ep? Episode of Paul's Drag Race. Anything I put like an extra syllable in there tonight. Pene alternate drag race thing anyway so I think we could keep it and of course very own winner here. Amman way. Amman how are you? I am great Finally we're in the part of the season where things are really interesting. Because we've sort of had this nasty thing hanging over for the entire time but I felt like for the first time. We're getting to move past this part of the of the season. I'm excited yeah. It definitely feels like we shed some extra weight going into into this finale. So we have Jackie Cox go home and we're left with our hop re our top three girls heading into this. Bonaly so we will speculate about what we think is gonNA happen. We'll go over. What has been announced so far or the reunion and for the finale. Let's dig into everything from this dealer episode of Drag Race so we get after the elimination The big shock here was the power going out Which was kind of crazy brand? I definitely thought it was something on purpose. I thought it was purpose to but I loved it. They loved it in because it kept US guessing and I kept waiting for the shoe to drop much like I did through much of this episode and it was really interesting to watch and how they were like I you know they were definitely vamping behind the scenes. Going okay so we're going to go over to the untucked part of things and we're GonNa talk there because we still have lights there. Yeah we saw the show to film. That's where weekends on the girls. Very weird watching them. Do Post game reactions in that part of the studio. Yeah my mind like couldn't comprehend what was going on wrong place. Don't understand that there was something else coming in the last one. I was definitely Prim and in in in ready for something to happen because I don't know a few of our listeners. Also follow J. Johnson on On Youtube but he alluding to something happening in this episode. Oh my God somebody coming back. Let's GonNa come back on and as Queens everywhere like what's GonNa happen but then nothing so now. We did get a really Nice Eulogy for Heidi. The show love. Heidi like it was really really nice. It was really sweet. You talk about Jada losing her little sister and it just. I think it just goes to show how much the show really fell in love with Heidi. And so we're going to talk about losing as the new winning. I think Heidi is one of the Queen's that really one drag race as ours all of that concerned certainly one of more than Cherry Pie. We dig into the next day and we get the mini challenge here. Oh and we get a video for the first time. Is this the first time we've seen a video and a while a while I was like what is this? And why is it coming out? And why have they been edited out? It was it just a time thing. Like our and a half. They can't find thirty seconds to show video. I still don't understand. Yeah I have no idea I thought it was like maybe it's something I was trying to put it together. My head like media something chronic virus you know because they couldn't record them. I was like that makes no sense because they literally had to have had them for the episode. So what am I even thinking but anyway whatever so we get the video and that brings us to our mini challenge. Amman where they have to do showgirl headdress and showgirl drag and do some type of performance with this. Yeah this was fine I'm shocked that so many this part of the time when I'm watching the series and get reminded of how talented these queens are with their hands and putting stuff together because sure they might have. You know had the Their costumes are their outfits already. Set but to create that headdress and assured him on time and for them to look so good. I'm like wow. This is true true drag. I like I like for you to think you're sitting on the couch. You're saying I could definitely do that. That's when I'm like no. I definitely could not do it competition like this because I am just not artistically. I always think are sorry. Are they really going? Give in twenty minutes here. Or whatever. The Rue says Is it something where the Queens have like I? We didn't have a drag queen on the PODCAST. Because I'M GONNA ask them okay so if you're on the show do you know when Russa's quick track or Old Lady drager whatever she says? Do you know these are the three things that I have to put on my face. I'm assuming with quick drag. You know like it's going to be lipstick and I later and lashes or something like anything else you can throw on your face. Time is up then. God bless you I i. I'm always astounded at the level of professionalism on many of the Queen's faces in such a short period of time I genuinely don't even understand how this happened because they looked so good and I remember quick dragged from the early days. This good luck happening. I don't know level of talent has improved. We're giving them a little bit more time. I have no idea or they're just prepared for it. They're like you're prepared. One of the skills I have to know how to do as quick dry because I swear to God like Jada looks just looks like Jada. I honestly maybe my naive. I can't tell the difference and for them to have made the showgirl addresses. I mean again how much they had to make. I don't exactly know but you know this was just a fun opportunity for the Queen's to do quick drag and then just you know do some weird stuff and have a good time with ruin rudy grasshoff. Yeah exactly right. Does it bother you like because I haven't really been a a a watcher from the get-go so I've only really seen from season? Eight up until now live all the other ones that had to go back and watch so. Does it bother you that everything seems a bit more polished like Philip? This show with losing a bit of his authenticity because of the fact that so many come with these pre ordained looks diners. Help them out. I mean I definitely feel like there's a little bit of an aspect there Insofar as quick drag or anything like this no I just think to queens are getting more talented. I think they know they know. What's coming on? Ru Paul's drag race. It's sort of like going onto survivor. And knowing how to do a slide puzzle or knowing how to make fire. There's just some things that you go onto the show and if you're a smart player and you consider yourself to be a Gamer and talented and there's you we know how talented so many of these queens are. You know that so many of them think okay. I know I'm going to be in the final four so I'm GonNa make sure that I know the things I need to do to prepare myself so that I don't get tripped up by any of these things along the way and so I'm sure many of them like literally took classes from people about how to do quick drag how to have something done really quickly together. What you're going to do in this instance. Bruce's this. This is what you're GONNA do like. That's how I would game ru Paul's drag race and I have to think that a lot of these people like Jackie. I feel like as a kindred spirit in me Jada same way like I feel like they would look at the show in the same respect about how to navigate around all of these challenges and impress rue. So I think that's definitely something that's happening behind the scenes so I think they're just getting smarter agree with that. I think the biggest thing that I always am a little worried about is examples of wealth. Inequality where you have queens that and maybe have a little bit more affluent and can afford greater looks going into the season but thinks that a little bit sorts itself out like I think Heidi is a type of queen that you fall in love with her personality and drag race is really just the beginning and I think that the queen's that really can succeed afterwards it's a little bit of an equaliser. I guess kind of in a way and uh interesting discussion actually. I'm sure that there are Queens. Who Haven't had as much money on route. I'm not coming for you. You know I'm not I'm just like I'm thinking I would have said something like that and then stepped in it like. I'm sure there are Queens honorable drag rates. Who didn't have money who didn't go far and haven't made as much money post drag race because they didn't get the exposure on the show that they needed and then things fell flat after like. I'm I'm very curious if there is any discussion of that or anything written about that about new queens from season. Three's he's forest five. You know what happened to many of them. What what are their booking. Fees like in comparison to somebody like you know. I don't Know Naomi. Or Yeah exactly somebody who hasn't won but is prominent in seasons or you know even even somebody in the recent seasons. I would very much like to to to hear about that so maybe we can find out one day. I think there's probably a lot of factors. Do I think you know socioeconomic? Status is absolutely one of them. But I think a Brownlow you alluded to as the season that you're on you know if you're one of the earlier seasons. I think it's so much harder to get noticed. And there's a few queens of pop up. Um that aren't Weren't winners or top two. But it's probably far less than what we see now so because they're not getting mainstream. You know right now. I do feel like in some ways. That's what rule uses all stars for like the fact that Mariah and India. Farah are even Anjar coming back which we all know now are coming back to drag race like. I don't know that anyone who was necessarily clamoring plan to come back on our screens or Mariah for that matter now. She's not amazing she is just saying. I don't think anyone really clamoring for it. But the fact that they're coming back like I think that's that's a that's such a boon for older queens and I think that also is reason to why they should do that holiday special every year ending up. I still think that may like mayhem. Miller is on the show because of the house slaves by show. We know it we know it. Okay believe I believe the back to the mini? Challenge the winner. Here is G G WHICH TO BE HONEST. I was like that's fine. Whatever who cares although thought? It was hilarious that she wanted trip to Vegas just like given the traveled climate. At the moment she'll get hurt. She'll go rhino right. But this brings us to the main challenge of the week which is Viva Drag Vegas. Where the Queens have to perform a medley of songs from Ru Paul's drag race live Which is one of the show or a new the new show on the Las Vegas Strip which so it at the time of the season. I don't think that the show was on like was performing. But I think by the time. It's airing it's been on so that was pretty it was it was on until the corona virus hits. And then like. I'm sure that come back. One day hopefully But I I love the because before Paul's drag race live. There was a show called anyone. Benza Vegas I can't remember. His name is frank. Frank something only God. I've been so it a couple of times it's a it's a drag show in Las Vegas. I'm looking at up as I speak. Oh God it's bring Marino. That's what is Frank Marino Ms Las Vegas. Yeah because he always did like Joan rivers. It was called Divas Las Vegas. That was the name of it but it was on the Las Vegas Strip so I know the repulsed drag race live basically took the place of Divas Las Vegas or is definitely outshining them at the moment to the point where they're no viable so yeah. I'm really excited. I thought that I always thought that Las Vegas is a natural place. Grace in the Queen's Yeah I think it absolutely makes sense. I've seen some videos. That people have taken. It just looks like so much fun when this whole thing blows over I really WanNa go. I think it would be so enjoyable. Y'All on only God podcast trip So okay so on top of that they also have to write a rap verse And then of course. There's choreography that goes along with the show. Which the wonderful Jamaal Charles is back to help together. Yeah Amman you happy to see Jamal back. Like he's just always such a good teacher so kind to everybody. He really encourages them. And just you know I feel like he just pulls the best of everybody and that's what we already have like a fantastic five so when they are able to all bring it the way they did it. You know a lot of that has to do with him so I'm always lead that he's there. So what did you think overall about this as a concept for a challenge? I thought overall this was a really fun concept. I will say that that overall I love the result because I felt like a dad. There was so much editing and so many behind the scenes things that we didn't see so many setups so many things that I feel like impacted the performance. We also didn't get to see that it was really hard to judge the ends like. They were saying things like you did this or you did this or we felt this way. And I'm like I felt like most of them. Were pretty fantastic. I really did and even the ones that I felt like weren't amazing. They didn't really call out and I felt like I was trying to be as objective as possible. I really really lies. And they didn't seem to see what I saw so I'm like well. I was very frustrated with editing. I'm on you you said yes or you. You see what I'm talking about. Yeah I mean I feel the end. The end game for drag race nowadays is very just about in mentioned a lot of time in this episode. Get there get there. Get there get there because once you get there sort of like you just gotTa get one more show. And then you're in the finale and after that comes across in a lot of the editing because partially because they wanna make it as a little bit unpredictable. It's possible they don't want it to be as obvious about WHO's not gonNa make it to the finale. But she's been hyping this final six five up to like the best ever. So yeah we got. We got to see the the performance by all the Queens and yeah that shit was edited to T- they shot and reshot and put things together and made everything seem seem less than perfect and probably they probably got multiple takes every queen even if they were messing up in the beginning. You didn't see it because they chose the best. Take from Queen which you know. I'm fine with it. Yeah it does sort of make it hard for an audience. Member would be like okay. Well who objectively was the worst and I think it made it hard for the dentist because they had to go back to report a car which they usually don't like the. I don't really talk about report. Card is usually contestants. I talk about report card and the sort of like leave that out. But they sort of like edited themselves into a corner. He'll I feel like you know so. Yeah I would completely agree with. I mean especially the fact that I think during the judging rupaul explicitly says this is based on your performances tonight and throughout the season and I think that really hammered home to. It's like okay so crystal and Jack you're going to be in the bottom. Because because they had told us that earlier in the episode when who was it was a g who said like I think overall performance like it's me and Jada and then Sherry and then you too was like I really wanted to smack her because honestly for the last three episodes. She hasn't been fantastic. I feel like she's a little big for her bridges interesting. Okay Well Yeah. We can definitely get into all of that. Let's go through some of the setup that we get before the main challenge and the first thing that we have is the rap recording Where they're working with the same. I didn't write down their names but the same people as I'm not bitch right early. Look like it because they had talked about before so So it was kind of cool although it felt a little bit unfair because I think it was Jada the second group Rowles all came together. So it's like Oh some of them got to work with the Queen's and somehow to buy whatever Oh okay yes I sorry. I forgot about the opening of the season. They divided them up. Only part of them got to work with the these guys. Okay cool yeah. I don't have any sort of major takeaways from the rap recording. Of course we get a lot of the editing tricks of Ojeda's failing Andy. No is she going to struggle. We get gee-gee commenting that crystal methods voice. Sounds like kermit the frog if Kurmuk smoked pot? Amman I don't know if you had any takeaways from this. There was interesting critiques. I think it was for For Crystal where people were. They were critiquing her singing voice and I was like. Why is she the one that has the seeing? I thought we were wrapping here in. Then you later find out why I thought that was big the the whole I was sort of like confused as to why what the challenge is supposed to be here so yeah I kind of kind of shared your said it's GonNa. Yeah that was. That's a good point because I was super confused because also even with the performance when we finally get the performance as are they singing. Oh my God. The Queen's are actually singing and I was getting used if they wrote that part and then I was like. It's only after watching it a few times able to figure it out but this really kind of made it confusing so the next part that we have is the dance rehearsal where we get a lot of white girl. Dancing Jackie and some booty shore brand. I don't know if there's anything you WANNA say about the dancer dancers all no. I look look honestly. In my opinion everybody performed as best as they possibly could. In almost all of this entire performance it would really was well done and I agree with that. I'm sure that there were multiple takes that they were given and that really made it hard for us to judge. Everybody looks pretty seamless. It was just a big warm group hug at the end. Where it's like you did great. You did great great great and so there wasn't it was really heart differentiate. Basically it's just personal preference at this point and I hate that Yeah there. There wasn't much in terms of the setup it did feel this whole episode. Plus untucked was just incredibly talented girls. All just hanging out a little bit of shave on it each other really. I think they recognize the talent that everybody has and Jack. They tried to make Jada looked like she doesn't know what she's doing. This is just. This is such a red herring. We know that this is not going to. This is not going to hold. Yeah is the performance. Jada will be fine like I don't know what's going on here. Well the last thing we get before the runway and the performance is the work room first impressions of each girl where they're talking about what they thought which the fact that she win. Jackie gee-gee was a costume queen and gee-gee was so guide Oman. I loved that. I thought that was hilarious. Yeah I didn't. I didn't care for that costume either. And it wasn't costume she's talking about she's like what is she like business fashion. I'm like God like you look on God. Goddamn pirate sit down later. I love that. Look I mean I agree. I don't know why she was acting like it was the regular so far out of it like the first impression girl like you walked in looking like Johnny Depp. Of course the damn constantly so yeah I for crystal is the one that's Throwing a little shade hearing that because she's the butt of the joke on time. Yeah I like sweet little crystal and one who asked the question. Who Do you think is the most improved? Oh really okay. I had no idea all right. Well let's just get to the performance. I Really WanNa talk about it. Let's discuss the performance and then I think we can get to the runway. Look so we'll keep them separate for going through all of this Jamal Sims is of course our guest judge as he did all the choreography to set this whole thing up and overall the performance seemed to be broken up into three different numbers they when they first arrived to drag race which is their intro. Looks be just the mirror number. Which is sort of how they came drag Queens how they got introduced to drag and then a force losing is the new winning which I also titled. You're still that bitch. Because I love the concept of they started with. I'm not and then at the end we get. I'm still that no Mina. Walk me through your thought. I really enjoy this performance I I love the fact that they all got so reprised. Their work workroom walking. I don't think they've ever done some seen a repeat in history drag race. I've never seen something repeated before like that. I will say I didn't even notice that first and then I saw cherry pies like hydrogen. Wait a second oh wait. They're all in G. so yeah it was. It was nice. It is so can't be the whole musical theater vibe. I loved the number with them. All you know in pajamas in in Duar you know talking like the classic. It's what you call the. I want Song India's third song in the show talking about the main character or the engineer desires and it was it was written very well and just so I I love. I love the radicals usually but something about this. When in particular I sort of like watching the Roussel's I can sort of like the like does off a little bit but I think with this win entirely so I like. I really really enjoyed this performance a lot and how. `Bout you yeah. I was thinking about that on the fact that it's the I want number and I always thinking about myself at the mirror like after being trapped with corona virus in my own home and I was like I want boys I hunt company. I want people. I want activities. Oh God yeah it was really a lot of fun I think. Overall the my favorite part was the mirror number only because I thought that was Jackie's best part and I am sure that a lot of the audience is like me. Not Everybody but a lot of people are identifying with Jackie because she is the perceived underdog and they really meet sure to hammer that home. She was the only one who hasn't had a challenge. Win Maxi Challenge. Win Up until this episode. She was even showed. Oddly from last season said we only one one episode last season. If I could win this challenge then I would be on par with oddly and I'd go right into the finale and just have a chance and of course I'm thinking like are they setting us up because that's about to happen. They said in setting that up as a possibility. Because that's what could have happened. But it's not gonNA and then I got my answer Direct conversation again but anything that they can really do about because it's clear that drag races becoming more and more You know they're they are acknowledging the fact that it is becoming easy to to decipher some of these edits which is why they are trying their best to throw in stuff like that. Throw US off really ended Anonyna- they can do to to not make it as predictable. Should they instead of having tops in bottom? Should they have like in? Fail Lake. There's only one is in the bottom like this and look look honestly Amman. The whole thing comes down to Rupaul. Charles that is the problem and then another problem necessarily. But if we're talking about this as a as an issue rupaul. Charles is the problem because Rupaul is the sole arbiter of who moves forward okay and so there are multiple times throughout the season where. I think the Jackie should have won. There were other times where I thought she was in the top when they put her in the bottom now she hasn't been not that she's been amazing every time because she hasn't been there have been times where. I thought she should have been in the bottom two but there were other times where. I was gagged that she didn't get the win. And then so the way to combat that is just give her the got him win and the reason she didn't get the win was because of Rupaul. And that's the reason why she's not going to move forward. It's like the problem that she's currently having as a result of the problem that she's been in for a while in that Rupaul doesn't love for as much as she loves the other four. That's the problem so unless this challenge was done in another way unless there was another avenue for her to just absolutely succeed see. I think that Rupaul loves challenges. Like this because then Rupaul can just do whatever she wants because because they all look amazing so then Rudas now have to be the bad guy and then she can just use report card of the season unquote as something to shovel off. One of the Queen's and say you're amazing we love you but there's only room for four by I think ru doesn't like challenges like in past seasons where you have. A what the fuck kind of contestant elevate themselves into the top where then all the sudden. Now you're in a position where you have to kick off one of your favorites. I think ru likes to have control over things like this. So if you want more unpredictability than I feel like. It's like the challenge. Would've needs to be a one. Take Challenge and then what would have been the result of that? Well we know. This challenge had several several several takes including be weird mirrors. So just as a looking back at Jackie Cox says report card. She was in the top six times. That's crazy now. Obviously she was also in the bottom two twice before she was eliminated. So In the bottom two total of three times but yeah I mean th they're definitely also seems to be an element of the story lines. The show wants to create and part of that is absolutely with the editing. But I kind of feel like sometimes part of it even comes into play when they're filming this season and and so I think will respect. Sorry we'll so if like if the editors producers because yes it is Rupaul but I think some of the other producers have a say in what happens are GonNa make sure. And if the producers are sort of seeing a storyline that they see progressing like Apple Asharwi pie versus g g good generally as a narrative that they see you know. Then you may be give the win to G G or Sherry over Jackie. Because you're trying to sort of push that narrative that's my conspiracy theory. I'm not saying it's true saying I was saying it's true. Yeah of course it is yeah. I'm sure I'm sure that of course Atlanta's right I mean like when I say Ruis ruin her people like Michelle this is a the the guest judge Carson Girl. Stop like none of these people really have a say. It's the people who are making the decisions at the top or making the decisions overall. Yeah absolutely and so. That's what I think for this. Challenge to agree with you Brent. Everybody looked really great now. Obviously I had a queen like I think I really like Jackie's a lot and if I was simply judging based on this challenge me Liana. I probably wouldn't have put Jackie in the bottom so but this. This does give an opportunity for rule or whomever to sort of make the decision. However they're feeling because it's really hard. There's no clear winner here It really does come down to a judgment call. No but there's a clear loser in Cherry Pie so we're happy about that. Thank you girl so I think my I don't not okay not problem but one of things that I went into this challenge then gang. I didn't think of it like a. I think was part of my problem because once I went back and I re watched it again a couple of times. I was like okay. I what they're doing. I think I can enjoy this more but I went in with more of the category is or you know thinking about the songs from that perspective especially because I knew they were doing a wrap so for me. This was kind of confusing so I was like. Oh my gosh what is going on. There's too much happening. I can't follow what's going on. They're singing but then they're supposed to write stuff which they right. What are they just singing? what is so anyway. It was a little overwhelming for me the first time through but after that I got a better sense of what was happening and I was able to enjoy it a little bit more. Yeah I concur with that Amman Leon. I'm sorry I was GonNa say like upon multiple because I saw this episode three times. I'm not the entire episode but this particular number and I concur that like after you are able to absorb a what is about to occur. You're able to take it in and get what the overall point is really like feel what the show is trying to make you feel but I was so pent up looking for little clues along the way about like who. Who's getting the ESCUCHANDO? Look from rue or Michelle like whether or not feeling good. Yeah you know where where? It's it's a little editing where they're letting US know somebody's not doing as well as everybody else's and so. I want to be on the lookout for that. So I know who's going to be on the bottom because I had no idea who is going to be in the bottom two because I thought Jackie Cox was amazing and so I'm thinking okay. She's going to be in the bottom two so who is going to be in. The bottom. Two is a cherry pie and crystal like I really. That was a possibility. So yeah mine. Did you have any feelings about who you think? Did well Or one other I. I mean there's obviously there's a little bit of bias here because we all know this girl's story and with all that she pool for the season but I just felt like Cherry Pie did not deliver the way that I would have expected her to so I was surprised she wasn't. I would have if our report I would have been like. Oh let me let me let me make this go lip sing one more time just approved because this is the final five and you're not delivering I think that G G good. I think that she just has a magnetic thing going for her when she's on stage it does not come across whenever she is in the workroom. It does not come across in mini challenges except I guess to them in this past one but whenever she gets on stage and she lip syncs she just she just goes somewhere else. Maybe it has something to do with the fact that some of those lyrics were written by her so she able to have more personality behind but I. I really think that she was a strong one here in the same thing for Jackie the same thing for for Jada as well. I just really well my the most about this challenge with not only that the girls were just giving it to us but I think that they really like the producers. We took a chance with some of the editing and cinematography of it all like I mean that Little Mirror shot when they're all standing together in the mirror and like how they're Some people are dancing like in the back of the stage and come forward and then it blends into the next person but the other person's still on stage just in the back. I thought they really heightened the production value of this number in general which really just made just made me see everybody like a rose colored lens so yeah it was. It was a very very strong performance by almost all of them And Yeah I'm on. I agree with your take. You know I think that we are getting caught up in the entire cat. Fishing allegations to say to ourselves. Well Cherry Pie must be good but we know we're not supposed to like her because of this. I'm going to be honest with you. I didn't respond well to Sherry Pie throughout this episode and I haven't done well sharee pie for the last couple of episodes even just trying to judge okay like I don't really know her from production. I don't know her confessionals. I don't know her personality so I'm just going to judge the lurks onstage and the performance and let's see how that goes and I haven't been impressed and I was looking for a way to sum it up and honestly I found something that someone else roads and her name is Lilly Vasquez and I don't know have your at Lily's so I apologize but I want to give you credit. And she wrote this Cherry Pie. She said in reference to the way things are overall. I really hope jackpots. Take Sherry pies place even if you take the cat fishing scandal out of the equation? Cherry Pie was pretty much. A one note. Pony same makeup character and period sally for most of the season with only minor here and there just comes across very stale and matronly in my opinion by the way. I totally agree with again. You know I have problems with Queens. Who are like twenty five and make themselves look Goddamn fifty years old. How many times have I talked about? Somebody like Hera. Who is in her twenty s at the time and make yourself look like a Goddamn fifty year old Miami housewife. How does that happen anyway? She goes on. She was very polished talking about Cherry Pie and obviously a seasoned performer. But there was little spark and excitement emanating from her. Even comedy was very predictable and self-indulgent that's fine for local drag queen with a standing club residency but that doesn't cut it for global drag superstar. Jackie Cox on the other hand took Cherry Pie. Same playbook and injected heart freshness and Quirk and made us love her and like. I'm trying to not fall into the trap of okay. Well I like these. People didn't know what Cherry Pie was doing at the time. And so they judged based on just seen her on the stage which of course all things being equal you should do but like even just looking at it as just that I there like it's very shallow. It's very service. Level was Sherry Pie. I cannot find any heart or anything. That Paul's drag race normally looks for. Maybe we never got it because of everything that happened. But I just can't see it and so I don't respond well to her anybody else. Feel that way. Oh Yeah I absolutely agree with you. I think it's been. This episode was almost the first time while where I felt sort of free of the scandal and I felt a little bit more like I could judge her for what was going on and she would feel but fifth out of five. Oh I hated her up and then now here you read that. I'm like Oh my gosh. Yeah her political statement was the same thing like her you know her wrappers in the very first episode was the same thing This whole concept of like pie foreseen in America. Oh Oh really okay like we got it also find a garment fifty when your hips? That's not what I think about. Her mug rarely changes. You rarely goes outside the same eyebrows eyelashes or the same face for the same contouring. It's always the same thing ironically when she does the ole drag sorry. I'm on the bird. The strongest islands think the best thing was the one where she basically had to make another decision with the makeovers. So yeah I just honestly I feel like it's just not it could be a obviously some of it has to do with the editing because they purposefully edited. I'm like what what what I wish I could do it because I really do. Feel like she's five out of five even through this though because there really wasn't anywhere to hide in this challenge because I don't give a damn if I don't get any confessionals from you I can still judge you if you're not giving me confessionals and your I can still see the performance. Got ON A T shirt Amman. I can still judge you. So yeah I I just feel like I'm not really. Maybe I guess you know it comes out the report cards again and how she's been consistently high and she's one one or two like so she has going for her but yeah they were wait earlier. Hey we're all for the widow and like oh you want early. Like what's the focus? Cherry Pie this she win. Last you have the WIKKI Open. Was Her last win. Was it like episode of his head five. She went episode three and episode five usually in episode one. Right okay. She was not an upset. Wow that's yeah okay. Yeah no love lost their last echo but like I was expecting The kind of what you said already. I was expecting when we got to this end of the season. I was expecting to be like. Oh wow like. She really screwed everything up for her. She had such a great performance during the season. And now it's all gonna be wasting because she decided to be this horrible person but no way I'm like you heard. Okay bye okay. Yeah exactly. Yeah well and then all her characters are still old ladies who apparently have like seizures. So okay lying. That's funny but yeah I so my probably if I had to had to pack my bottom to would be cherry pie in crystal and I would've loved for Sherry Pie gotten home like that's what I wanted to my dream world. Of course that didn't happen. Yeah I think as I mean like the runway makes it so hard because I think the Jada just smashed the runaway. So I'm like I wanted to put Jada in the bottom two because I didn't love her verse and I thought she was a little low energy in it by like her runway but see so. I'm going to talk about Jada Lake. I think what really was the fact that she's not a tenor and all the other the wrong key. Amman right they can always. It was the right key she just saying octave lower than everybody else. Because she's not a tenor and she has A. She has a lower singing voice and she's asking going to get to begin with it really g down because exactly even if even if you're hitting every move it doesn't matter because your vocal isn't as bright as everyone else's arc. Yeah Yeah Yeah and I felt like my ears had almost readjust to then listen to her because once I was doing the Rewatch I was like oh I actually really like her verse because I was able to process a process that a little bit better but definitely within the the background of the whole thing felt a little out of place. Yeah I do not understand. Why Rue like I love? I Love Jada. So that's why a young guy I'm like. Oh I just remember that but honestly like ruined company were like gagging over. Jada and I'm like okay. I'm not talking over Jada like I love Jada. And she's amazing but like her. I did not have the same energy as gee-gee or the other queens not even crystal like it just didn't now again. She came out and smashed the runway and absolutely hands down. So then how. How do you judge that? I mean that's again up to rue so whatever but like I probably would've had Jaden Cherry Pie in the bottom two if challenge. It happened like way earlier in the season. We would definitely have gotten an edit of the vocal director asking Jaded up here. And she's like I can't do that and it would have had the whole thing where she's like feeling insecure about it because you can't sing with the rest of the girls cannon but they completely cut all that out because I guarantee you that Vogel Director You try up here please. And they just didn't show us that so that I could see that now. Let's take a break your word from our sponsors and we are back all right well. Is there anything that you want to say about the performance? Otherwise we can talk about the runway in the final judging line. That's it for me. Okay well the runway is the Elegance Extravaganza Aka best drag looks crystal. Is the Verse Queen? That we see come out in her. Blue Jeanie. Look brand. What did you think about crystals like this week? Look I hated it. I'm sorry I did. This is terrible this this is this is really bad. I love her. She's amazing. I've grown to fall in love with her just like everyone else has but I'm trying to call it and I think Carson basically said the same thing which is that I love you for being you and your amazing and but God damn this ugly ass shit. This is terrible but it is it so ugly that it's amazing. I mean this. It looked like it was so heavy and so is it. I was GONNA say cheap but maybe cheap isn't the right word but it did look kind of cheap but look like crushed velvet like you buy at the fabric store like I think it was Bob. The Drag Queen on the pitstop who was like at first. I didn't like it and then I hate it. I'm happy to hear your feelings because I think I also had a similar response is like I think I want to like this but I just can't on. Yeah I tried 'cause I as soon as I saw her come out. Go like this is not going to go brand. Who already does an has a problem with a lot of buzz and I really try to be like okay what I need. I need to be the one that goes to bat for her but honey she swung out here. This is just not. It's it's ugly. It's propaganda allegations. Are you kidding me? Like yeah End ended the day. Like I really and I. I know that there are many types of drag another not. Everybody is not. The fish is not their their stick. I that's clearly not crystal. I don't need you to be ultra feminine. Bet She's not your thing but I you don't look like a drag queen to me at all in this thing this you look like a clown clown you look like a genie clown and hands to like bugs me. Blues up in the metrical. Kibe look but it's sometimes lopsided he's just lopsided and that's you know it doesn't fit. Yeah I I hate the HIP and they'll so nine yes on. Ya Booth in just I think the best thing that you had gone for her in this in this outfit was her face but her face usually looks like that anyway. So it's just like Oh really just wanted something like maybe. If she had turned into address maybe I would have liked it better. I don't I just now no crystal. No I'm holding my hand up and I'm covering the pant her and it's okay so I'm okay from the top up. I think it's really just the shape of the legs. That just for some reason bothers me but You know good for crystal for being crystal. This is just personally my personal preferences. Drag is not my favorite smurfs circus. That's what it is. It's just horrible Okay well. Gd is next queen to walk a runway. Which has this very Katy Perry from last Friday night a mind? What did you think about this? I hated this. Look I think she looks so ugly and I loved it because she's always giving us this you know really put well put together and this is still very well put together but it doesn't. It doesn't look like something that you would normally do. I mean just the addition of the Chin. Strap in the head band in the neck. Brace and all of that it really just it made me here in a different way and I was like okay now. Okay I WANNA I WANNA for this. Because it's not as pretty as as usually go like I really don't like this look and I like the fact that I don't like this look because now I'm like okay. I see you now. Still theam seeing the layers to g good now. So it's definitely Very campy Brent. Yeah I didn't love it didn't this is another one. I didn't really respond too well to like. You're you're you're supposed to bring out like in my opinion. Your best drag. It's it's extravaganza eleganza okay. This is supposed to be it so it's not supposed to can't just supposed to be amazing and so. I was a little butthurt that she did this. I didn't I should. We should take points off for it not being because we've seen other things from her. That would definitely fit better in this category. But I don't know I was just so used to her being that we anyway. She waited for a while so I wanted that one time I wanted that. At the finale. Give me the best you can ever get. I wanted and then I didn't get a I got this sort of campy like and it was great but I know what she was going for. But I didn't want that I wanted something that so again personal preference on my part like I wanted her to just come out and give me like fashion queen. Amazing like just give me something violent chachi Gog worthy. I WanNa see it because I know she can do it. And just like go out there and slam it. And she didn't do it in my mind's eye I kind of feel like I'm more in that camp too. I think it was an expectation thing and also because I know what she's capable of what her mom is capable of design. You know and I'm so happy. That feels comfortable tapping into camp and doing something like this. But it's not what I personally wanted for that final. Look so I think I can appreciate this. Look for what it is. I certainly love it much more than crystals. But it just didn't hit the spot like it wasn't that meal that I wanted like I'll eat it and it's buying but it wasn't that satisfying meal that I really wanted so Then let's see who is next so we get Jackie Cox out on the runway brands. What did you think about this? Look Jackie boy. I really responded well to this one. This really gave me all of the eye-popping orgasms. I was looking for when I'm trying to consume repulsed drag race. The colors the color of the hair the scheme overall of the silhouettes. The Wade's at the garment moved the way that it fit the one thing that I will say that I didn't love is. I didn't love the way Jackie presented it. I would have liked her to have a little bit more pizazz a little bit more. Like like fuck you amazing and I never. I didn't think she had that I still felt like she was walking out there. As I know. I'm probably going to be lip synching tonight. Like just you know what I mean or does anybody else feel that I didn't catch onto that until you said it But watching it back. Yeah there's definitely in. Is it stage presence? That she's lacking now deliver. Give me more. It's like come out there like Jada come on like us. You own the stage. Piss all over it. That's what I wanted from her because she had the look to do it and then she didn't. It is absolutely demure when she presents it and I think that hurts her however like this. This is what I wanted out of the look and I think I was so happy after especially crystal and G G I was like. Oh my these life and so this still wet on. Jackie is just absolutely gorgeous. It's so flattering. Love the color combinations. I didn't have the same issue with the length of the gown. Because that's sort of the style of what this is supposed to be also extra style exactly. Yeah because I have the same problem too. I want the gown to hit the floor but I know that's not the style right. What's it made out of is hours trying to figure out? That's what I was trying to figure out. Was it like wrapping paper or was it like it looked like Like that cheap ass tablecloth paper that you have to. It was a little cheap but they just don't I don't know I don't know what the hell was. I thought maybe which is wrapping paper like Shiny Glossy wrapping paper. How I thought it was like. Oh Oh I'd say yeah. Cool cool material that it was made out of but I. I don't Know Jack in the glove. Favorite of the new dress with the yellow interspersed all through their house. Because it's just a it's just a little scoop of yellow you know but like the hot pink overall really just like a grabs your attention. I loved him well. Talking about grabbing wants attention Brent. I know this look from Jada really grabbed jail. I mean this is just literally coming out onto the stage and pissing all over it. She was just all my God. Amazing this is everything I want. I love the judges said that this is if there's one contestant on this season as a drag queen. It is Jada absence. How did she comes out and gives it to you? There's one contestant heard Extravaganza Luganda and said okay. I know what I'm doing. What are y'all doing ask that I had I this dress. I you know I got this air. I got the beat for it and I know I'm going to come out there with my Cape and work the runway and Oh my God it like a glove and she was. She knew it fit like a glove suits like. I know my husband's right. And she came out there and she just gave it to us. It just was like like I wanted this. I needed this for her and she gave it to me and I was so happy A mind did you feel strongly about this leg. No I mean but I don't know what's not it's great it's beautiful. I mean Jada Always Looks Beautiful. I guess maybe it's the color for me. Maybe was in bright enough for me. I didn't really care for the Black Cave. I feel like if she's going to Cape should not have been black. I feel like it's sort of like bogged down allows translucent. Though it wasn't really black I mean it was. It was black. But when it's what's on stage you could definitely see through but it was still black black. Netting it was like. I just I just feel like the gold was a non shiny gold and I wanted more. Pop wasn't hoppy enough but I mean she always got the. I love the fact that she imitated Rupaul with his classic Raising of the the way she works the runways just everything like she has so much fun. Like everything Jackie Cox was not giving me jaded. Did give me like. She knows how to work the crowd and having mind getting ownership. Yeah definitely she is definitely a lot more on the extravaganzas. I than some of the other Queens. Yeah but I just feel like I don't know I just wanted. I just wanted a little bit more. I can perspective about the gown. I think the reason why I responded really well to this is because this is what I wanted with the elegance travelogue on the And the fact that she is just beat for the Gods and contoured all the way up into the hairline. Like it's just I mean she looks fantastic. Looks really good really really. I mean this is pageant. Girl realness to T- You know there were some details about the dress. I think maybe didn't necessarily pop as well on camera as maybe she wanted. But I think all in all this to me is when I picture that finale look or I guess the best drag look out. Is this kind of what I picture something something like this. And maybe that's my antiquated dragway. Is but I still think that. She looked absolutely gorgeous and the stunning stunning dialing are our last queen. I guess we could talk. If anybody has briefly I mean it goes into what I was just saying before about Cherry Pie. Which is she's always coming out in the same period she's she talks about the confessional which they gave her on the runway about the fact that well. I know the jags moving into the news. Centuries and the new modern era of drag. We really shouldn't. I don't want us to forget you. Know what. What may drag amazing amazing characters? We can pull from my bitch. That's all you do. That's all remember. Okay like come up and see me sometime like have you told me that Mae West was what Cherry Pie was going to do. Like like okay. Yeah totally expected like and like she acted like she was like reinventing the wheel when she came out in. This and it was totally expected. Like I was not moved by this at all even though I know. I'm supposed to hate her because I don't care for Cherry Pie but I know the show is wanting meets not like her. But I just didn't like this really boring like can she do anything other than this. I just have a lot of like. Why do her hip pads fit weird like? There's something about her hips at like those because it's the same silhouette and they doesn't fit in every single time so Anyway whatever she's gone now so now you don't have to deal with this. Well we get the final judging and we know that this is of course based on the performances tonight as well as throughout the season effectively. This comes down to the quote unquote report hard Now gee-gee is declared our winner which gives her think or wins for the season Which is the most out of any queen has three and now gee-gee has four am on? Yeah I mean I think I think it was pretty well deserved. I don't think any of the other having Jada could possibly running for this but because of the fact that we talked about before and like I just played. She wasn't able to deliver the same kind of performance with those vocals And like I say she comes alive on that stage when she's performing and so yeah. I mean it's kind of set because then it just sort of like raises her bid for the crown. It's like how can you not like especially if you say you're GONNA come off this episode talking about report card and you want us to believe that report card has nothing to do with the with the winner. Now come on but I I at the same time. I can't be mad but she won because she really did win so And then our bottom to our crystal and Jackie who are going to perform to on the floor with which is J. Lo featuring pitbull which I think they saw somewhere that pit bull. The only straight male artists ever be featured in a song. But don't quote me on that I make up stuff all the time. I want to say I really appreciate it. That Jada was called safe before Cherry Pie. I love that. Yeah no I definitely. It was like noted that I was like okay so this is like our top to God. Then well I thought this up saying I can see the writing on the wall or at. Least that's how I felt Brent that I feel like Jackie was going to be sent home. What did you think I thought that there was actually a really great lip sync with both of them on but I also I mean. I'm sorry like I know that there's people that love crystal method out there and I love crystal Meth. Did but she was just doing the same shit that she did like two episodes ago and she was like. I feel like here's the thing I feel. It crystal is a little bit of a dog and by that I mean this whereas a dog does something. And you're like Oh good Doggie Doggie. And then the allies that you respond well to it and then the dog does it again and and then you're like oh good doggie dog like like crystal knows that rule loves this. Dumb Stupid Shit. She does so then she just does it again. And like I tell them nothing new in the actual performance. I Dr Jackie. What's actually amazing? And they didn't show the didn't show crystal at all during the part where it was like the rap pilot where which came out really fast and really wordy. They showed looking Jackie cots but they didn't show crystal. I'm thinking that was because Crystal Dino awards as well and so I was a little boy. I mean honest that Jackie dimwit. Yeah I could see the writing on the wall. I'm on what did you think about the love singer. Yeah I really thought that there might have been a moment where we did catch crystal not being perfectly in sync with the Edited Way with the words so I did think. Oh Wow maybe maybe she might lose this one but Yeah I mean I take your point too about you. Know Crystal delivering those antics on stage. But I guess you know you're sort of able to get away with it because this is your first lip sync so it's sort of like this is a new arena which you're doing it As opposed to Jackie. Who has already been in the bottom two? Yeah so but I also I also kind of have a a small pick Jackie. Because she's like I'm sure all of you guys are so surprised that I know the words to this rap song and my first of all this is not a rap song pop song with a rap verse in its second of All. This song came out when you were like fricking twenty five. You should know the words to this song so like don't don't try and be like oh. I'm such an old two-tone I no. You're not you act like you're like in the grave already. You're like come on so Yeah did they both. They're pretty admirably. Anything that new with Jackie to be honest and we're going to get into crystal. I don't really see that much new with Jackie. Either so I I thought at the end of the day somebody was here twice. The other person was here for the first time. And that's so that's all she wrote. Honey yeah so this is where we finally say goodbye to Jackie on you about this at the beginning of the show that Oh there was going to be some sort of gag like say there was no guy at least not in this episode so crystal was safe and Jackie was eliminated. And that's all she wrote now. We got the team Crystal Team Jada Team G G Like I don't even know what you want to call it pop ups for the audience to influence. Who THEY WANT TO WIN. Ru Paul's drag race. Which I think is kind of interesting because we have been speculating. A little bit about if somebody is going to be brought back but the fact that they brought up these three makes me feel like this is our final three. I don't know how the virtual if think is gonNA work with. We can talk about in a bit but Brandt I really think that no one is going to be brought back. I unfortunately feel that way as well. That's what's in my God so they could surprise me but I do not think Jackie Cox going to be brought back. I know there's a lot of fans and that really wanted to be brought but I think that he virtual now is going to be so hard to pull off and I don't know how they're going to do it and I think having four Queens instead of three Queens isn't isn't even monument it even more monumental task that there's no way they're going to invite her back. I would be stunned but I would be happy if they did Yeah so we do know that. Next week we're going to get the reunion which is themed as a virtual slumber party hosted by Rupaul. So that will be on our TV screens next week. Which is I believe the twenty second of May and then the finale. Vh One is going to broadcast a virtual lip sync and from the article. That I was reading from E W it says a virtual video using boundary pushing technology is to highlight the creativity of each queen. I have absolutely no idea what that means but I think to brand point we really are probably just gonNA stick with US requirements. Being our top three and. I don't think there's going to be any sort of West. That happens where anyone brought back so agree all right Do either of you have any thoughts about untucked? Honestly untucked as news fast. I mean it was nice like loving each other but was a group hug everybody group not the season for untucked at all. I was I was GONNA say as far as the Boundary Pushing Technology is concerned. I don't know if either of you have seen Katy Perry's performance on On the American idol premiere this past week on on on. I don't even know if it was the premier but Katy Perry. She released the single recently and she had her first live performance on television. And it's a lot of like CG is built in virtual reality stuff that goes on around her as she things. So I'm wondering I don't know if you have the budget for something like that for three drag Wayne's that are interspersed around the country but I'm wondering if it's something of that nature aware you know you have a team that gets assigned to each queen and they are just going to shop there lip syncs to make it. You know pop on the screen but then that Kinda brings in the question. It's like okay. Well then who controls who has the best people on their team or is it going to be the same people that do it. Because I don't know this is what it's going to be so weird because if it's GonNa come down to the lip sync in. They're all GONNA WANT THAT GAG. Where the moment how all of them to be to captured that without having a specific team and what happens if somebody is a better team than the other person their apartments are going to be filled with. Butterflies arose battles. Who knows what's GonNa Happen? I have no idea what's going to happen. I'm just hoping that Jada wins thanks. I wanted to bring this up so I want us to do the head heart. Gut predictions for the finale. So head is who you think is GonNa win. Your heart is who you want to win and your gut is just who do you think in? Your Gut is going to take this so rent. Where do you follow these three categories? My head thinks that Jada essence hall is going to win. My heart wants Jada S and tall to win in my gut thinks that J s until win. I really I really I really do. Because I think the response to the people and I think enough people love Jada just as much as they loved g G. G hasn't undersell favors over the past couple of weeks so it's not as like she's untouchable as she once was. And so and Jada just like I think that people relate to her but but it's close. It's very close and I could be wrong. Sorry I know that I have I. You I mean my head thinks that. Gd Good is going to win. Only because of the fact that she's one four challenges now she's never been in the bottom two And she's been almost consistently high mean towards the end of the competition. She has sort of began to Klein. But never as far as the do My got off a believes that g g good is going to win For the same exact reasons I would love to see Jada Win Not your heart. So I guess that's my heart but I mean honestly and the more and more than I think about it. Like either of them to be honest. They're both great representatives for drag race. And I really feel like that. Losing is the new winning so you can always be brought back on a new season of all stars and do it all over again and get more fame and more followers and everything and you know I don't know so yeah I'm calling rapids. I just I'm really. I guess it really depends on what comes when it comes down to these lips things and if somebody knocks their lips out of the part even given the circumstances then I want that queen to win because I just feel like this season is just so just so unprecedented in mired by such shit and fuck that if there is this queen that is able to come out on top at the end of this shit storm and just deliver us a bomb ass. Show all stuck at home. Then give that the damn crown. Create another Sasha Lor moment give them the damn crown. Okay I don't I don't I don't know I don't know what crystal can I mean? We've only seen her lifting once so I don't know if she can do it then. Okay giving give chronic crystal jammed. I keep thinking about this boundary pushing algae and like what if crystal comes up with some super cool way. You know to utilize this. Maybe that's how she takes the crown in the end. I think it's definitely possible But I think for my head Heart Gut I'm GONNA go with my head is g G. MY HEART IS JADA and my gut. It's really torn. I think I think we're GONNA see G. No My gut is telling me G G my head also. Gd and heart is Jada so We shall see I think crystal for me personally is a little bit out of the running just based on what we've seen so far especially with three and four wins but you never know. I mean she could be these. Sasha Vlora of the season I should absolutely have to kill it. Yeah she'd have to absolutely just destroy them on stage. Yeah right or at home. Yeah wherever yeah okay. I think that about does it for us today. We have celebrity drag race. I didn't respond super well to this episode so I don't have a whole lot about it a mind. Did you have a not really? I was kinda shocked because they were really only been up and then I felt like these last three people that shows while they're not specifically unknown. I just know I didn't know who any of these three people were. Come on base so that we send him last and the line. I expected like Woo. Who's IT GOING TO BE? Yeah I wouldn't. I wouldn't have considered any of them. The best relax. I still knew who all of them were but it was Dallas. Shot definitely was not like no honey got. It makes me wonder if somebody cancelled did they. Were these alternates. Like what's going on here. Honestly I look. I was happy to see Monique Heart back. I was yeah it's a C- Elissa fucking Edwards back in God. She looks good and I love the fact that people just love her so much and they're literally coming from doing the that you know. That was so much. See Vanessa Banji I don't know how she was. As a coach overall. She was better than I thought she would be. But I'm still looking at her going like how long you been doing drag for four years now. Very potent mixture of celebrity judges. You mean vange. Monique and Eliza like that is who has a lot of personality right there so and the celebrities were which I also didn't know any of them Phoebe Robinson Madison Beer and Healy Kyoto. Which I thought that the actual performance like the drag performance at the end was fun. I could've done with the rest of the episode. That was really all. I wanted. Brian scully to put out a side by side of the celebrities with the drag queens in terms of followers. I want to see this because I have to believe. This is even more ridiculous than what we saw before. Yeah it's entirely possible. I think I 'cause I sh- I was like. Who are these people? And he was like I think Madison Beer was on buying not like what she was a vine star. Something then got music. I don't Know Mon you choose done a couple like songs for Disney and yeah. She's mostly known for her music And gets her start on online. Yeah like most young nowadays Your point seven million followers. I was like we're all the brand. Oh my God oh my God like literally I was like you know. I'm sure because like there have been times where people have been on the show and I'm like I have more. I was like have more followers than all three of these veges ask. She's been around for her. She's been around. They did okay. Always been like one of those people. That's like kind of like been bubbling under and she hasn't really had doesn't really bubbled doesn't popped okay all right all right well. Let's get out of here. We of course will be back next week. No we're not going to be back next week. Yes so what would you is. We are going to cover the reunion and the finale together. So we're going to wait to put out the podcast until after the finale airs where we will cover both everything from the slumber party reunion to the virtual lip sync travel. Ganda Brandt how are you? What are you up to you? And how can people find you on Social Media? They can always find me one lucky gay. That's one spelled out O. M. E. And you can come yell at me or follow me or do whatever you want covering a lot of sequester lately. That's happening on Fridays and Saturdays. Giving us a lot of virtual entertainment when we can't do anything because of the Goddamn Corona virus and a big brother is still on hold so drag racer bus for me right now and a man. How can people find you on social media? You can find me at Amman Edwin on twitter and on instagram. A Yeah I mean if there are any glee fans still have a podcast with friend. Podcast Matt Gory and yeah like brand. I have been enjoying a lot of the Question Minis so. Everybody should definitely check that out. I think I'm going to be speaking with. I don't know are you guys going to be with Taryn on a on a survivor? One two yup along on God didn't ask me the bed. God Yeah I think Mike Bloom is also going to be there. I think he is going to be there as well. Let's say like so for those of you don't know the alter. Yeah so the survivors are going to be playing the game of sequester on this. Saturday may twenty third. It's going to be a really hot time it's GONNA be. Apn Eastern you can find out by going to sequester access dot Com and looking at the feed APN. That'll be there. You can also go to a twitch stream where Liana and Oman and myself and a bunch of a cast of thousands. Basically we'll be covering the end will be commenting on the events During the breaks. And it'll be a really fun time on a really excited. How this cast of Twenty survivors is going to interact. And I know I've been hearing through the grapevine through audrey the there's been a lot of pre gaming which I think can lead to a lot of relief bitter feelings after the fact so I'm really excited. This happen on Saturday on May twenty third and. I'm sure that I will be there like many of you. All it's probably GONNA break the Internet. Actually get a lot of is. Yeah and it's going to be a hot mess. I can't wait all right. Well you can find me on twitter. Eliana R. H. A. P. The survivor season is over. But there are two podcasts. For you to check out archie. Pnb with Mike Bloom and our guest Gabby. Piskorski was on which was. Yeah so much fun. We talked about everything from the finale. I'm also dwell already recorded but it will be released soon. A podcast with rob talking about the pond Rosa Videos. I saw yeah so survivor put out a bunch of Ponderosa coverage and Robin. I broken all down. We did I think. Rob described it as the morning update but for Ponderosa so we talk about what people are sleeping and all that stuff. So since we're on the drag race podcast. I feel like I can say this and get away with it but I'm going to say what I think everybody else is thinking. Can Ethan in Boston. Rob Just fuck and get it over with all like God. I literally talked about in the first. Few minutes of that podcast. I think the fact that he said that boss said Ethan cat gone. Oh all the homo. Yup Definitely GonNa go check that out now. That is the best plug for the ponderous videos that entire love it. 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RuPauls Drag Race Season 12 | Episode 7 Ru-Cap

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RuPauls Drag Race Season 12 | Episode 7 Ru-Cap

"Hello hello. Hello and welcome to the RU. Paul's drag race roucab on here on reality. Tv REHAB UPS. I'm your host laborious and here. We are going to talk all about episode seven of Paul's drag race season twelve. I am not alone with me here. As always is a man who I would love to have a radical party with Amman Edwin. Amman how are you doing? Oh yes I would love to have any kind of party. Considering what are living situation is right now but yes I am here back toggle balancing them drag Raisani ready for it and of course also we have someone who I'm sure could do a mean Roger Rabbit Brent Walk Mont Brandt. How are you doing? I actually did Roger Rabbit He. I'll just say that I was better than him. So I will say that the Madonna musical. I never realized how much mirrored my own life like there was like slutty Madonna and then businesswoman Madonna and unapologetic Madonna and bitchy Madonna. And I'm like I get it. I've been there yeah. This was a really really really fun episode. At least I thought personally I from remembering what an icon Madonna is to having what I thought was probably one of the Best Roussel's that we've seen so far it was just overall really enjoyable a mind. What were your thoughts overall in this episode. Yeah they did a very good job. The editing was also some very twisty turny type stuff because we got shots of a lot of the queen's feeling very insecure and another. They do that a lot but usually there is some sort of payoff when it comes to the actual performance where the Queen's are actually going to show their weaknesses in their signs of of a not necessarily having together but for the most part. All of them killed it so it was pretty stiff competition and we don't often get that and this is what the shows should be like. We should be getting stiff competition every week in season. Twelve has delivered on that a lot more than other cities in the past. So yeah pretty pretty solid episode of drag race here. Yeah Brian How did you feel about the musical itself overall? I thought that the writing was fantastic. Almost from an intellectual point of view. But I will disagree with you in that I felt like the entertainment was a little bit lacking like I found myself like chuckling at some of the things that were done or said or getting some of the things that were said. I enjoyed it very much. I do think there have been times in other words. Were I have like yes? Cleaned it more in my background. But I get where you're coming from. It just depends on what exactly you're looking for new reality TV. I think I think that's a good point. Well we will get into all of the details of Madonna the unauthorized Ruzicka all. But I think there are a few things that I want to touch on before that. Which is some stuff that happened. After the elimination I learned a new word. Paula lie from widow Von. Do which is fantastic. So when you apologize at the same time because she was his calling out all the fake bullshit. It was going on with you. Know Oh British saying I love aid and I'm so proud of her blah blah blah so. They thought that was a lot of fun. Although her the widow on widow the dripping things as we talked about this last week he looked up. Close sound that on my God. Yes Sir Look Man. I tell you what we do and I are kindred spirits. I can't with some of the Shit. This is so not me like own your shit. I was with widow in what she was trying to tell these people and the fact that she's just chuckling in the background is just giving me live and I love the fact that anytime. They're looking for a bitchy outtake. They basically go to the widow von do and I'm here for it Yeah so that's not you know rain on the widow widow. Von Do parade here. But the actually I've heard the Apollo I coined term from one of my own favorite reality TV contestants a few years back Miss Davidson Rogers. She we use that term a lot during her tenure on big whether eighteen and so just to give her a little bit of a shot. Oh but yes we don't want to do was was great because the Queen's are acting fake I mean with Aden's Day leaving and everything and then all of a sudden now everybody is like team Asia and cry and talk about. I missed namely Britta girl girl. Even you have to don't taste that that shit that's coming on show mouth like come on. Now come on yeah I would love for widow to be a devan fan. I think that might break my life worlds colliding. We'd lose my mind. I will say that I feel like I remember saying that but I will also say that. It's different when they put the word up on the screen at the blackboard like when they when it actually like appeared right there and then like two but then he appeared there and they showed you like how to pronounce it in the meaning. Like I was like. Oh that's webster's moment all right well. Is there anything else? After the elimination show was mostly just that bullshit. Nonsense is like happy to move on from same bullshit nonsense to from G G and Heidi I. We talked about this last week. I know that we disagree on a little bit to me. Heidi still looking for a fight. She's looking for a fight and she's got her feelings hurt. She's in her feelings. That's fine and feelings but I don't feel like Gee was specifically coming for her. But that's how how he's GonNa take it and it's going to emanate a little bit throughout the episode. A little bit. I felt like also that watching the episode that we were getting some. Heidi like ooh is is like actually falling on their face. Like is this. Is this oak. She actually weak at something and then in the end well we know how it ended. Yeah no I agree with that while I I certainly sympathize with Heidi untucked last week. I it seemed like during this conversation that you know honestly being like grow like if I heard you. I'm sorry this is not the way that I meant. I'm sorry and Heidi just doesn't want to hear any of it. So it's like which is a bit of a turnoff. It's like she doesn't want to fight with you so the fact that you're willing to keep this going it's sort of like you're not really scoring any points with me but at the same time. I guess I kind of understand sort of like having an enemy in a competition. It's it's easier to name an enemy and having enemy too so that you can use that as a force to push yourself but also for like it's Kinda draining grow move on money gets you're GONNA be fine like just you're still here. You're slim competition like let's focus on that. Maybe that's Bredow went this week. The energy of chasing after eight and was GONNA say that. Look look how long they kept around. Britta in eight on this entire time because of their silliness. So I don't know maybe Heidi is looking for in in. You know I found a villain after Jisi now. She's Yeah Oh my God actually. That's not a bad idea especially if Heidi things like. Oh no on the outs. They don't like my looks you know. They're criticizing me. Whatever it'd be like if I tried to start drama with the front runner of the competition they will have to keep me around right. I love that do okay. Let's just jump on in and get to the next day in the workroom. So no video. No mini challenge. We are doing. We are just going to dive right into Madonna. The unauthorized musical wear the queen's are going to have to sing although it's going to be recorded this time because I'm pretty sure share one was live singing. So they're gonNA have to record their audio and then work with Jamal Sims to do the Corio. Amman what did you think about Jamal being here instead of Heidrick? Yeah what's with Tarja keys like there one day and then the next we haven't seen Jurmala bit or at least we don't see him as much frequency as we've been seeing hydrate so it was kind of interesting. I sort of appreciate Jamal's energy. Though more than Toddrick I feel like toddrick. Very much understands that he has a role to play. And IT'S TO BE UPTIGHT DANCING QUEEN. You know strict choreographer. Jamal lead his Hertzel with so much grace and the Queen's respond better to it yields better results which ultimately is more interesting in terms of competition because everybody is at the top of their game. So I mean I'm not mad about not being there but it is. It is something that I thought about when watching the episode. Well I know I for one was happy to see Jamal. Yeah I was having to take a break from toddrick. Honestly I was. I'm with the mind Jomo's energy. Besides being a total thirst trap was just so he had so much grace and so much empathy for what the Queen's were going through and that really emanated off the screen to me to the point where I was like I. There was no ulterior motive. He was just there to help them. I was like Oh. That's just that's like I get. Why toddrick would be there and why he would be Bitchy Choreographic Queen and why he would take on that role but honestly for one. It was just nice that somebody was on the queenside because I feel like other times that people are not on the side of the Queen's there on the side of good TV and while I get that as a TV watcher. I was here for it this time. Yeah like a target leads. His rehearsals with a lot of ernst trying to create this character for himself and I think a lot of it has to do with the fact that he is his entire career has been built upon his his work ethic in creating this all these videos on youtube and creating these music videos and creating these concerts and he's he's he's known as a workhorse and he wants to come across when running hersal on drag race he wants to be seen as someone that has their shit together and yeah and you're right like he he also wants to bring the TV you he wants to have like little little shady battles with some of the Queen's. That's why when some of the Queen's are like Oh Yama Dances WanNa pay extra attention to you then like he. He just plays that part well but it was nice to see Jamal sort of come in. Yeah like Ruth through for the Queen's like be on their side pizza everybody be their best so any was willing to change the Corio for widow because of the knee injury that I had no idea. About which immediately. I was like. Oh my God. Eureka flashback select one hotak and I was like please don't and then and then yeah so they didn't go down on the knee instead they did it standing which I thought was really cool. Even though I think it was who said you should be healed by now. Yeah like maybe. She's got something else going on with Ernie or maybe she screwed up more than she said she did. Because it looked like it was just a little cut and she was all like well. I can't do. I feel like she could have pushed through it. Like just basically like you just have to straighten your knee. Don't do it for the practice except for like maybe one time this market. That's what we call. It hurts when you don't want to go off. Allow you ask the Director Hayes right if I just mark this move for the time they I don't have to you know get it like no one wants to keep reopening a scab. Okay could you it for the performance and just go out there and straighten your leg one time and it'll be fine or they could have given her 'cause. I saw Jackie kneepads for the rehearsal because she was doing the thing on the ground and so but then obviously for the real performance. They didn't give him Madonna kneepads. They could have done something like that. But anyway Okay so a brand. We had them sign roles which it was interesting. They didn't have one person assign they sort of had to do and hasn't group. Yeah I I loved this we so often. We've seen the YOU and you and you get to assign the roles now. Work it out. I love the fact that it was just like basically this reminded me of the. Do It yourself challenge from survivor where they just hand it to the Queens. And they're like y'all figure it out okay. We're good y'all figure it out and come back and tell us what you decided so. I enjoyed that part very much. I will also say that. If you're not convinced that g g good is the odds on favorite to win this season. All you have to do is look at what happened in the workroom in this part of the episode when literally. Everybody seemed to have gotten the role that they wanted. Except for G G good. She was the one queen who was like. I really wanted to Blake. I think cone. Madonna's what what she wanted to do. And then Britta was like absolutely not I will not do whatever Madonna was the other one and he was like okay. Fine like literally. It was the last thing that she wanted and she went up there and spoiler alert. She won the fucking challenge on apart that she didn't even want from the beginning. It is I mean I know at the end. We're like oh my gosh. She won. But that's how all this started. She didn't even want this art. She wanted something else. Everybody else's clamoring for their own little bit and their limelight in the sun and somehow in a in a part that she has no desire to play she still goes out there and from my point of view absolutely deserved the win and we will talk about Interesting Yeah I think John was the other queen who didn't get the one that she wanted. I can't remember what John WanNa bet she got early. Madonna to me Janna was like I didn't know what Jin wanted. She was just like. Oh I don't want to have to go I. It wasn't it wasn't that she didn't necessarily want that. Specific Madonna was just that she didn't want to go first and then after they talked with their for like five seconds or what seemed like Jan was like okay. I'm good I got. I got this so I feel like that was a little different but I take your point though. Okay so we will go through all of the Queens but just for keeping track at home Jan was early Madonna. Jackie was boy toy. Madonna Jada was sex. Madonna widow got empire. Heidi got forever. Madonna Crystal got enlightened Madonna. Cherry Pie was movie. Star and like Brent talked about Britta ended up with cone Bra Madonna whereas ended up with unapologetic Madonna. So in this article the way that they did it was. They recorded their vocals and then lip sync to their own vocals at the lyrics. Obviously were already written a mind but we got to see them going through the recording which I thought was pretty cool. Yes those obviously some queens or singers and some queens are not singers and we got to see that of course Jan. The singer got a pretty pretty juicy juicy melody there to show us a little bit for vocal runs to you know and then we have people like widow and crystal. That aren't much vocalist. But for the most part people still did a very good job. We got the very tentative edit from gee-gee where she's literally shaking as he is trying to send. Well you can see the nerves just eating away in her and I'm thinking Oh wow she's gonna fail at this like she cannot. She cannot pull this together but it ends up being okay. Long run so yeah okay. Yeah we'RE OKAY. We're GONNA WE'RE GONNA talk about it. We'll talk yeah. I thought it was interesting because I went back and rewatch the season ten. Yes he's ten one. The share one where they had to sing live and I was trying to decide. How did they make the decision whether or not they have to sing live or not because the they wanted to still be a good performance and I think we really only had one good singer in the group. Britain is good too so I'd say maybe like two and a half good singers of the group. They were like no no. No we need to record ahead of time. And then throw some auto tune on this bitch. Because it's GonNa be a good performance. We have them seeing live like season. Ten my favorite part of the this recording session was when Jan comes out and absolutely nails it. And then you have the widow of undue off to the side saying okay so this bitch knows how to sing and she seems danced is in New York. That's what she does for a living who had the bright idea to let her be the first number in the show and we all have to come after her. Who did that because it was so funny. All right well. I want to talk about these. Performed says okay so first all I want to say I think no one did bad which is shocking to me so I did a really great job. Also the backup dancers y'all une- living for the backup dancer. Now that I've said my two major points get in each the individual contestants so Brent Jan give me your thoughts okay. I think the Janssen absolutely fabulous. I think the Jan was like totally spot on in the performance. I think she was living for her life. She was living her best. Live out there. Everything that she was doing was giving to us. Okay I thought she was clearing away the winner but I will say this my reality. Tv watching and listening ears perk up a lot when I continually heard over this episode that Japan wanted to be the winner or was going to be the winner. I heard it from her and I heard it from other Queens later on to the point where I was like. Something's up. Something is going to happen so in the end when we got to the eventual result. I I will say I was surprised but only because I'm so used to the way. The show does things in terms of like like basically spreading around the wealth. A little bit that I I understood. I felt like I understood what they were going to do. And then when they went a different direction I feel like this is what you get after twelve seasons of drag race in five seasons of all stars or whatever small straps I forget how many are in the can and what's been shown I feel like this show is willing to break some of its own rules until like that's why in the end Jan didn't get the win because the show was looking around and saw that there was one queen who just went the extra mile beyond and we can talk about G G in a bit but overall was absolutely spectacular. Any other season. She's clearing away the winner. She's just on a season with an absolute fucking star. And sorry about it. Them's the breaks. I sense I don't have a lot of support from the panel. I'm hearing a mine. Just y'all why I'm wrong. So the name of the game is do whatever it is that the challenge is asking you to do. This is a singing and dancing competition. Meaning that the best singer. The Best Dancer should win Jan Liba singer foreign away in this competition so the choreography that she was given more intricate than some of the other. Queens. Not all of them. Oh yeah see I that one. I can't go with you on I. It was. It was good choreography. I thought it was a little repetitive. A little one two three four one two three four whereas I felt like other people had more to do and not just because of the tricks but I felt like there were different level of performance to attain. What I saw what I saw in other performances was the reliance on backup dancers. That's what I saw where I saw Jan holding her own the entire time. No gimmicks no flips. No Watch me as I'm getting picked up by a bunch of men nothing none of that all Jan herself and I am not saying a exactly Jr us. Dan and I am not even the biggest Dan Fan. I came into this competition thinking. Oh my gosh. She's the student of the season. She's the one that's washed all the episodes she's the one that is going to be overly cerebral and think about everything but this bitch was in her element this entire time. Just she did. She did not miss a mark. I just felt like everything was spot on everything that we agree that you that you want in this kind of challenge was there and I just and she had a longer bit on stage in some of the other ones like I time some of the performances. She was one of the longer ones so she was out there and had more to do than some of the other Queens where the next one jockey was there for about. Maybe about two thirds of the time that Jan was. I having an issue here when it comes to the results of the competition because I I just I'm just. I'm not seeing what the judges seen. I want to be. Clear that for those people listening that my love for g g good here is not in any way. An indictment of Jan Jan did nothing wrong. She did everything right. It's just that I felt like when whereas we'll talk about g g good because I feel like we are talking about her like I felt like from. What's Leon you want to talk before we move onto z? Good in the winter of it all you WanNa bring sorry me. Here's the thing I think. Ultimately is a comparison between these two G. G was the winner that was declared on the show and I think that a Lotta people myself included thought that Jan was the winner. So really I like you know we have to kind of compare the two and I think for me. Jan was outstanding. I completely agree with them on. This is a singing and dancing challenge. What the hell else could Jan have done? You know what I mean. However gee-gee has it. I don't know what it is but she has it. There is something just mesmerizing about watching her. So I understand why she's a front runner and I understand why the judges love her. However that being said when I look holistically at the performance the runway like Sherpa. Gd And the top. But give this to fucking like this and she is such a good singer. I mean even if you compare like okay. Sure there's some variation even in the choreography like if you think Oh. Maybe jujubes was more intricate or John's those may be more basic but when you the singing like gene was miles ahead of everybody else in terms of the singing and that really that coupled with the runway really should have given her the win. I just feel like okay so I watched John. She was fabulous. She was everything I was living for everything I wanted her to be. She was giving me but then when I saw G G good come out on the stage and the way she moves every part of her choreography. Everything had a sense of purpose. All of the movements had a sense of movement as far as what they were connected to the song in terms of trying to get across what she was saying in the words I felt like everything she was doing. Onstage was just so far above what Jane was doing insofar as just kind of moving back and forth to step kind of thing. I felt like Jiji's choreography was sublime the way she moved like Madonna on the stage. She is an absolute fucking star. And I take your point that this is a singing and dancing challenge dust Jan. Obviously being the superior singer in this instance should be the winner but this is also a reality. Tv Show and you can't deny the star power that is emanating from G G good and frankly. I feel like part of the reason why this happened is because ru is a little bored after twelve seasons on the show and I can't remember as our ever been a time where they have awarded a win back to back like this aside for me like the final four like. I don't think this happened often. I remember like Sharon needles. On her season one. The first episode then was immune for the second episode in one the third episode. But I don't remember something like this happening and I feel like that rule was just so blown the fuck away by what she was like. You know what usurp. Here's the thing. It's all about expectations. Everybody knew that Jane was going to kill it. Everybody knew the gym is a great singer. Then so they were like. Oh yes. We're living for you when she's out there but g good we were like. Oh my God. She's failing it doesn't look like she's going to be able to do this. Like Michelle was in the rehearsal and was like listening to her. And then she comes out there and gives us that it's like you have no fucking weakness and we bowed down you. You fucking amazing Wayne. So that's where I guess. I'm coming from on Gd. I knew Jane what's going to give it to us. But she was just like remember at the beginning of the season. I'm like I love the fact that I'm so wrong about this. Because the beginning of the season I was like G. Good just reminds me totally Cameron Michaels. She is so not Cameron Michael Steele. So far above. What Camera Michael's Aber could have been sorry among I I just I let ask you this do you. Do you feel like that was seconded challenge. Sure okay okay. So we're it's not like you think like she was like you know safe or something. I just don't think that she deserved to win. And lay it just because somebody is expected to already do well doesn't negate the fact that they did well. It was just she had it all and Jiji's choreography. I mean it's like okay. So what are we going to award here? You know what I because if people we can already agreed that some people's more intricate than others so if we can't judge based off of the intricacy of the choreography because of the fact that it's not it's not fair that way because you can't it's indict somebody else that got simply because the other queens didn't then then what else are we going to judge and then you fall back on a singing better singer just better singer. I mean and then judge charisma of it all and the stage all JAN has stage. Presence was the better singer so I just I don't know I mean from coming from. Is that like Jan. Singing was amazing was passable but in terms of star power and wattage on the stage to me. There was just no denying that that. Gdp was fantastic. -Ly like that extra it that Liana talked about but I look I. I understand where you're coming from like I. I you know if they had chrome Jan. We'd all standing her and saying yes bitch. You did it in. We're so happy for you weren't sure years perking up the entire episode. Liana when they said over and over that Jan was going to be the winner of the challenge. She wanted to be the winner of this challenge. Like the show. Never gives it to you like that like you didn't sense that it was coming or I feel like it was a lot like they will do that. Sometimes where it'll be Jan saying well haven't win one any challenges yet. But I'm feeling really good about this one. It won't be so heavy handed where it's like. Jazz GonNa Win GonNa Win GonNa win so yeah I probably should have if I hadn't even watching intelligently I would have noticed but I was just so convinced that Jan was GonNa win and when she saying like my God. I thought it was done deal right. I I think they were looking for their Susan Lucci has denied any on the fifteenth. Try moment where like you can tap like because I feel like like Amman. I know that you're not with me on this. But just for like the shock of it all the look on John Space and she could not hide her discussed our this decision. I feel like worth. It makes. It just sours her from the you know what I mean because I I I'll show in next week come a- I love the fact that she is. I I love g great. She's great obviously she's Great. She's great but now I'm like when when somebody wins like this. I'm Mike that's it makes me question the entire legitimacy they're crown and the in the in the in the long run it's like way ahead. Sorry why are we like and I'm not saying that somebody deserves to win because they haven't already but it's just like for this to be the win. You were giving her when there is clearly somebody else. That does things better than she does. But your awarding her. Because of the fact that you liked the way that she looks on it collapsed. Were that's what it's about. I don't think it's about star. Power plenty of them have star power. That is what gets you cast on the show anyway. I don't think that GDP performance was that much better. You asked if she deserved to be second out of the beach that much better than what Jada gave us. Does it have to do with the fact that I mean. I don't pull out this often. But maybe it's because it's Madonna musical and you're giving it to somebody that actually also bit more like Madonna people like Jada dot book like fucking Madonna. You know what I mean so you're already going into it with this allusion sort of broken because you're like. Oh Black Queen. Up there you know clearly impersonating Madonna but like part of the image is gone because of the color of her skin. You know what I mean. It's so I don't I don't I just having a hard time with this one because I like everyone listening to this right now. It's like yes. Thank you for saying that. That's a point. I hadn't really considered before is that I feel like that room may have fallen into that trap of of look you look more like a Madonna. You're giving me Madonna. And thus I'm going to give it to you because you've given me Madonna Leon. Are you with me on that or not? Yeah I could definitely see that I mean for me personally. If I'm just trying to rank who I who I would put wear I would probably put I would have. Jan Is the foreign above winner of this one. Then for me I think I it's really frickin tough. I thought Gee I probably Geeta mytalk too I would. I don't even know who the the bottom would probably be. Jackie Heidi and the bottom. I would agree with but then as far as who else is in the top. I mean everybody did really crystal deserve to be in the top. I felt like either Jay. Jay I really enjoyed widow was giving me. Yeah I will did but I'm a widow stand so I'm like well maybe that's just me JD. Either Jetta if anyone deserved to be in the top I thought it was her because I just I would not take my eyes off of her. Yeah I we'll see this woman. Maybe you don't give this because I know that we've talked about this before. And you don't like the participation trophy you have it all like. I saw somebody in twitter. Save that they should have given both of them. The wind really wanted to give gee-gee five thousand dollars again. They really should have given it to Jan as well and crown them. Both like they did during snatch game a couple of seasons back because like ruse done that before. She's done that before where she's given both Queens. The win where. Somebody's surprised her. I still think that they wanted the face crack of it. All she and thinking that she had it in the bag and also. I don't think that Jon did herself any favors with someone for confessionals. She was talking about the fact that you know. Oh you know. This is my challenge. I knew I can win it like all the other queens or like talking about how great Jan is killed it. I know I did. This is great like they were waiting for her to just fall in their trap so I feel like in some ways. It's because Jan not totally in so much as as what is giving us. I mean you're right the TV show at the end of the day a lot of the Times. They are going to do things that are going to fulfil whatever storylines they have in mind for the characters. We Love Jan though. I don't think they counted on that. I mean it would be one thing if it was somebody who really care about. But we've all been asking like why isn't Jan and the top and then it gets there and we're all like we're ready all like. Oh thank God crown. The Mitch didn't win. It doesn't happen. It's like us thought. Yeah that's my. That's my problem. Because it's like it'd be one thing if she gave him all the confessionals about wanting to win and then ended up actually doing bad but she wanted to win and she did the damn thing. So it's like what are we? What are we what are you? What do you want to award? Do you WanNa award or constantly going to be dated with the underdog story of it all because you show G. G. Messing up and there were her soul. You have her she so the Portuguese literally shaking because she's so nervous about having to sing and you give her the win because Oh my God look she overcame or do you want to give it to somebody who actually has been doing what the judges have been telling her to do not only her to other Queens because she studies the show and she's finally here and then she killing sounds that she can do. And then you don't give it to our is just like what is the awarding system where you want us to what he wants to do. You want to be on this show and not be hungry for it. Do you want them to not be in their confession with. Oh I've been wanting this for so long and I can't believe I'm finally here and I'm GonNa fucking give it to you and then that's it like you don't give it to them when they actually do. What do we want here? Because that's what if that's what we're going to go. I don't Wanna I'm worried about getting the Jan edit. I don't want to be seen as too much fun. What I don't want to be seen him in at it it isn't it the most cracker at it like I feel like it's the same thing it's the it's the contestant that like knows everything about the show that is like kind of a little bit ask. C. In terms of how much they loved the show that I don't think they'll respond too well to that to me. It's clear the miscalculate in reform very well in some of the challenges where you're like you didn't but Jan has been delivering on a consistent with the runway. Is this just like damn like I? I mean I hate to sell it because I feel like a lot of people have already been making the exact same points that I have been making. But it's just no it's great. It's great to hear you say it though I've really feel like I don't know I I just. I just feel really bad that and I think it's also wrapped up with the fact that because of the whole Sherry pioneers of it. All the ending of the season has been like you can kind of see the writing on the wall so I felt like some of us are also annoyed with the fact that it's becoming very predictable at this point because up until now up until since season eight. We haven't seen anybody win three challenges this early the last one was wildly drag queen. And what did he do? He Won? So it sounds really didn't have to get through lip sync for your life at the end of the show though like I always. I always wondered about that. Like what if Bob the drag queen had had to lip sync for your life in a tournament style because you've got Kimchi which never predicted that. Sasha velour would have won her season so I'm just like I'm being reality guys like I feel like anything can happen here at the end especially if the crowd gets behind somebody like ru like more than anything. I feel like rule listens to the people. That's why she's always like you know. What are you see on Social Media Hashtag drag race? Are you team? You Know Sharing Needles Team Chad. Michaels or team beefy. O'hara like I like real response to that so I don't feel like this is a done deal. Hopi right I do yeah. I think it's interesting because I see your point brand about the fact that we're GonNa go to this. Well theoretically lip sync finale but in terms of just the narrative of the season though it Joshua think commented in the facebook group about this where it seems like the narrative would have been a G- versus Sherry storyline potential. But in all because of the disqualification were just stuck with G. and so it just feels like okay so Jiji's GonNa win even though you know obviously we do have this lip sync. That's going to happen at the end so it makes it feel a little empty and kind of a little predictable for sure. Well they're trying to like retroactively. Elevate other Queens. That maybe like I think if they knew that Jerry was going to be disqualified maybe Jada ends up in the top. Instead of crystalline. This challenge maybe widow ends up in the top instead of crystalline. This challenge. I feel like they would have done more to set us up for other possible endings. Instead they're going to have to get really creative with the editing as we move down the line and by the way like I said I still feel like Jada and widow are in it to win it. I'll have to do is get to the final four and anything can happen. Yeah no I totally agree just as a fact checking so Brian. I looked up to see what Queens had won back to back challenges. That weren't kind of and like the final four final three realm and therefore queens that I found so Alexis Matteo in season three. She won the third and fourth challenge. We had Adore Delano when the sixth and seventh challenge shake who lay on the fourth and fifth challenge and Eureka one fifth and sixth challenge in season. Eleven's or do you have. I feel like some of that in the finale of the seasons. Yeah because finale. She was in the finale right. Yup I feel like some of those wins. Were like team wins or lake. Like to someone's like I know shake share. Two of her wins. I thought with like Sasha one of those shared win with Shay I feel like I feel like Alexis also had a like a double win with somebody else like with like. I can't remember a challenge. That's a little different to me. So and another I take your point and thank you for looking that up actually. I'm Marie my dementia. I remember the owner. Although I still think it's amazing for the show to actually award G G her singular win in the last episode and then Comeback Seven days later and award her another singular win this time. So yeah I just I mean this is the last thing I'll say it but it just feels like she won because of the way that she looked. I don't I don't I don't really take the x factor argument. I just think it's because looks good. They like her. It's easy to give her the win. And that's that's and that's what they want. I think her runway to Amman is the similar story so we can talk about that when we talk about the runways but all right. Let's move over to someone else. How about Jackie? Who was the boy toy? Madonna A minor O. K. I didn't feel like forget. Which judge said this about her before? But you can tell sometimes that Jackie if thinking about every single move that she's about to make it can translate interface because her face can come off rather dead during performances. Sometimes and I think that that's sort of what was going on here. I think that she you know she hit all the marks. She did everything she was supposed to do. But it seemed there is something stale about it. It seemed like it wasn't. She wasn't fully there in lacked in certain certain energy. She was nervous shelf looking right after John. I think that was also part of it but overall I felt like the energy was just so lacking on stage. I actually I real story. I thought she did the worse I really did. I really thought Jackie did the worst out of everybody for the REU sickle. And it's because not only was she nervous on stage and you could see her thinking about her moves but also I felt like she had totally. I felt like the song was all wrong. And widow called it in her confessional too. It's not that you're being cutesy about the fact that you're a virgin. It's that you're not a virgin but you want somebody to do you like virgin. And She just seem works. She just didn't understand the song I don't even know if they had a moment where they literally have to explain to her You do realize what this whole number is about right or not like you. Don't understand what this what what what was Madonna liked during this period of her life like there was nobody in America. Who BOUGHT IT? She was like a virgin. I remember Bette midler old joke from Virgin Sir. I got that. That's the whole point long and it didn't seem like the Jackie really understood that right like she's still sexy she's still supposed to be very super sexy and Jackie was not that. I thought that it was like you said it. Just it didn't match and it was a little boring. I didn't think it was bad again. I thought everyone did fine. And everybody did a passable job but I actually thought the Jackie was going to be one of the Queen's in the bottom alongside. Actually I thought Heidi maybe it was going to be Jackie and Heidi. Although the narrative of the whole thing was Brenda was probably going to go. But but yeah it was even though she she got the comments from Michelle. It seemed in the final product that the comments really hadn't quite been able to seep into the actual performance that she gave the Rupaul was laughing a lot during it. So at least. Rupaul seemed to be entertained by this performance. Yeah well okay okay. Let's see anything else about Jeetan out. Nope no more about GT. We've talking to all right Amman. What about Britta here with a cone Brahma Donna? So I'm like a bad gay because I'm not really that familiar with a lot of Madonna eras. I mean I recognized. Look though I definitely recognize gone. I'm not really sure about you. Know what she's supposed to be emulated yourself. This is like her take female empowerment in terms of sex. How like women aren't just toys to be used? She's actually taking back her power during the sexual revolution of the female experience. Like that's what it was supposed to be about and express yourself So I feel like Britta tried to do a good job on but it's just I feel like it was a bad fit like I found it very odd that she was campaigning for this particular number. She should have been more vocal about. Maybe like I don't know movies star Madonna or forever Madonna. Anything anything that was not this Madonna. Because it's really hard for Brenda to be this sort of empowered dominant sexual version of herself. But I feel like the song required. Okay I didn't I didn't think about the fit necessarily and the fact that you know she did have a choice right like they got some shoes their own roles so I don't know if it was the thing about God bless the gays that she really loved and I thought that the vocals of doing the lower range and I mean clearly. She is a very strong singing voice in that local range. I thought was actually really fun. And I don't know if that's what she was intending to do. Or if it was because of the David Steinberg and Eric `Paparazzi or in charge of doing all of the audio stuff but I thought it was good that she needed bigger owns. I know that the costumes. I don't think we're necessarily up to them but they need to be a little bit bigger. I thought an proportion to the rest of her outfit was like my main complaint and I did not even notice that the Corio was off when Britain was performing. Yeah well she's a good job of covering it so I feel like props to her but on the other hand like the show knows what the choreography has. Because they're the ones who gave during the day so it's kind of fighting a losing battle on that front right. This is just the express. Express yourself air with something that is really really related to and I guess. She felt like she could pull it off. I mean I didn't notice a mess up in the grocery either. I'm watching it as we're talking. I'm trying to figure out what you're talking about. She was talking about it and on top so I feel like that's what what is that what you're referring to. Yeah I didn't notice until they show. I think goes to make sure that untucked. I can't remember but they had to show the like you know. Sort OF GRADE OUT LIKE SLOW. Mo version of the backup dancers sort of being a beat off from her because during the actual show. I didn't notice it at all so good. Yeah Alright Oh my God Jada okay. This is the performance that I I don't know if it's because sex sells because so freaking sexy I just couldn't take my eyes off of Jada and she is. We've talked about this. She calls herself a female impersonator. And that's what this was. Oh my Gosh brand I I I was just visually. I was astounded. Yeah she moves like a female to similarly to me to g g they both move like the Madonna of old moved like when she was on stage. Like there's just certain slinky feminity and yet power that she has unstaged that really emanates from everything that she's doing? I love this performance. I didn't think it was totally safe. Like I said I felt like Krista was good but not great and didn't deserve to be in the top. Whatever that's fine and so like Jada was getting the short end because of that but I feel like some of her like her lack of confidence over doing this Really betrays the fact that she was actually pretty good at it like she was giving us everything that we were looking for. In terms of that era Madonna of absolute eroticism and and we're juxtaposition of S and N and power and who really has the power is at the top or the bottom. Like all of that was part of this element of Madonna and I felt like the Jada gave it to us more than anybody up there on the stage. Yeah she She looks so good. It was so it was using facts. It was just the proportions. Were Right the whole outfit was right. The movements were right. We got so many shots of the judges like reacting to all of the stuff that was going on the-the because it was getting so hot the throughout their performance so she definitely embodied that whole. Yeah yeah it was just so good. I love the Liana the confessional of Heidi like. Oh it looks like j actually having a problem with this like is is Jada not the trade of the season maybe the trade of the season. I'm like oh no no no no try cute little Heidi Alexa. It's not it's not and Jada obviously pulls through here are the next clean. Is Sherry Pie? Brand doing the movie star Madonna. That's my fire alarm. Hold on one second. Just y'all sprinting running. Sorry sorry burning something in the kitchen. It's hot over there and the peon Liana House all right. I don't know if she wanted us. Continue but we'll continue vamping Amman. How're you doing on the people out there? Are you guys doing on in quarantine you're listening to quarantine radio? These officials station of the apocalypse channel. Six six six. Keep it tuned. We're GONNA be right back to your original programming. Oh God well. This has been a great discussion by the way. Be The thing that you said about the fact that she didn't look like a that she looks like Madonna and so that's why they gave it to her. I think I think that's a real thing really do and I want. I want to keep this end because like I feel like that. That's I'm on. I'm so grateful that we have you here and I don't mean like I'm not like being I don't this is coming from a real place of love for me. I'm just like I think I might have. I might have missed that. You know what I mean like I do. I do stand by the fact that I think has it. And thus I feel like that. She was deserving of the wind because of her wattage on stage. But I take your point that may be seeping into ruse thinking here and it's probably an indictment of me that I missed that in the first place. Yeah just really flaky. Sometimes we all fall victim to because I mean. I thought that I had when watching the episode. I definitely was like. Oh I'm not how am I supposed to see Madonna in in some of these black queens and get just doesn't make any sense more specifically somebody like widow whose is black and also bigger? So it's just like this. This is not working for me. I mean you reminds me of like religious figures you grow up and you see them in whatever race you are like. I grew up and because I'm white. Thanks see a white Jesus and then you grow up and then you see that like your friends of a different race have different ideas of what. Jesus might have looked like. And you're like Oh that real challenges your sense of thinking what you think about the world and how you view things in like realizing that whatever you thought about in your own little backyard doesn't necessarily square up with the way the real world's looks right now you know. Yeah Liana where the hell are back? I'm back and forth. Thank God we can do you okay conversation. Do you want the that included or do you want that gas we were just GonNa talk. I was just gonNa tell you. Yeah actually just keep all that in. That was actually really fun. Because the SOS Muslim went off and then like a modernized started talking about like of it all and I was like I'm like I'm really like thank God. Him On was here for that. Because I totally missed the fact that you know G G might have gotten a win. Because she looked more like Madonna and everything we talked about it. I was like please keep that in. It was good shit. Keep it on. Keep all of this. Our podcast alert. That's us. It's literally high here. Fire alarm went off find. Burn the house down. No it's fine mom where where we. Oh yes we were talking about. Cherry Pie Sharipov. Fire alarm went up. Okay take it away like they actually showed Cherry Pie. This'll be I looked. I think this is a real thing. We also got her in on talks. We got we got fashion. All's Sherry Pie in talk. I feel like this is two things I feel like the running out material and like it's hard to have a discussion about why widow was upset. Ally Jada was upset on talk when you can't like hear from Sherry. Hi this is a real thing that the show is going to have to confront as they get lower and lower numbers. It is impossible to edit around her. And this was just one of those instances where I feel like it was impossible to edit around Sherry so as far as performance goes. I actually really enjoyed her Eva Peron in her I mean but like she has this sort of quirkiness and comedy sensibility about timing onstage. And how she's supposed to interact with that but I thought that she was giving us the some of the best movie star Madonna out there but there wasn't a lot of it it was like she was there and then she was gone in a flash to the point where it made me think that did they edit out. Like four bars of movie star Madonna. Because she wasn't there for very long yes. She wasn't there very long and it's very strange narrative to show her one time and then not show her the next. I just feel like that's why at the beginning when we were debating on how we want at the end of the situation just kept saying I just feel like you're not doing yourself any favors by essentially telling us. I mean you already pretty much shorter that she's going to the finale when you're trying to do your best to edit her out by she makes if analogy which means she's going to be a big part of the story so egging her editing her out in the first half of the season and then having her interfaces it for the whole latter half just doesn't really make sense you might as well just give what you can when she's absolutely relevant and then that way when she makes it to the end. It's not so much of jarring experience because at the end of the day. She's not doing you guys any favors anyway. Like more and more news coming out of US Sherry Pie like apparently she was still doing all of this cat fishing ship up until March last month. So the girl is like not. She's it is what it is at this point like you can't really put out the fire. The fire is there you might as well just make the best of what you can but yeah. I mean as far as the performance concern. I mean typical Cherry Pie. I mean she's good at what she does. She knows how to act. That is what it is and yeah yeah I wonder if they're trying to slowly reintroduce her into the season like that's why we got the confessional and untucked not the main episode. Because yeah I mean when you're down the final five zero four and she's still there right like whoa you know that's a quarter of the cast so it just seems. I really don't know how it's going to go. There was some comments. I think it was on race chasers where they talked about the fact that because Disney was involved last episode. They may have requested or demanded runway. Non Means shown which could explain why we see it again here so it could be because of the Disney thing. Not because they're going to completely edit her out you know everything above. That's probably exactly it now. The the only comment I really have from her performance was the Eva Peron dress from her street. The musical which I feel like that was nice of Roxy to lend her address. So that's a joke okay. Brand Crystal was the next queen that we saw and you talked about how she didn't deserve to be in the top. What about her performance struck you? I mean it was. It was fun it was interesting. It was light and airy and had legal filled with lots of humor but I didn't feel like she was necessarily totally comfortable on stage and also I felt like this was like putting a square peg into a square hole. If you know what I mean like this was like a perfect fit like. I don't mean to criticize her by the fact that they gave her the hippy dippy role and she is. Kind of the hippy. Dippy girl by. I really didn't feel like there was much stretch whereas I did feel like there was stretch with more of the Queen's and aside from you know beyond the all like I don't think there was much more to it than that but come from me if I'm wrong. Performance I this is one of the areas of Madonna. Then I guess I am more familiar with so. We're just a little bit more recognizable for me. I like the gap in the those that those kind of spot on that. She really went there. Because I mean we've seen that she is someone get scenario head ally and I feel like she. I don't know I didn't get the uncomfortableness from her this summer. I felt like she really went for it in a day. I don't think she was the best. But I I would agree with a safe rating. That was appropriate. I think the same rating I thought again. I'M NOT GONNA punish her for for being. The hippy dippy one unlike having the hippy dippy role I thought it she had the cool effect which is a benefit of the writing but she's still sang it. That was her idea which I thought was cool and she did the lip synching for it so I thought that she was fun and her sort of popping up that affect. I thought that was good. But that's us more about the choreography. She was given although she did execute it very well so I would say safe. Probably for me is where I would put crystal not just that she. I'm not. I'm really not trying to penalize her for the fact that she was what they gave her that she needed to be that to me. She didn't exceed it. I knew what she was and I felt like she met the bar. But she didn't exceed the bar as far as the performance. There wasn't any. Wow moment where I was like. Oh Wow like I have to take a second look at that. That really surprised me. You know what I mean whereas there. There were other queens who I was like. Ooh I thought I knew what you were capable of. You did so much more than what I knew in. How amazing is that I think her personality though too has been like I just really like her. I think I mispronounced nostalgia or something like that. She was struggling like you and your elder barge hair so cute crystal. I love that. They give us the rhythm of the night. Every time she comes on the scene like a very fun and I find myself really drawn to her not in the biblical way although I do ru wants to biblical way. But whatever like when you're seeing confessional it's like Oh my God you're so cool and one of our friends and start. Podcasts actually knows crystal in like if she apparently is everything that we're getting on screen right now so I I love the fact that there's an authenticity there that maybe doesn't come from some of the other Queens sometimes. Y- amazing all right what. Avante do is the next Queen Doing. I think it's empire but I also heard the lyric FEM pyre which I loved as well I thought she did overall a really good job. Yes she did. She sold it with choreography that she was given. And the cane is the problem and the whole the whole look worked for me. I felt like she was are really really feeling it. I mean we saw a little shot of rupaul. Like dancing with her because she was sort of infectious what she had going on up there. I got up like she just went for it so I this was definitely a top performance for me. Yeah Brian What about you? I know you like at Ya. I mean I loved with under on episode. I really thought she deserved to be in the top thought she was going to be in the top. I heard that the amount of power and pizzazz and star power that she had during the performance just just. It just blew me off the screen. It was absolutely phenomenal. I really love what she did with this. Because it captured this era of Madonna. Which is the a female business empowerment to the point? Where are not being paid for what we are doing? And so I am going to come and take it from you like I am going to own one of the company and I'm only or another word about everything that the widow was giving me in this performance was what I would normally feel like from the era of Madonna and and not only that I feel like that we do was sort of dancing almost like white Madonna like I felt like there was a sense of the way Madonna dances that widow captured in this performance. That really struck me as wow. You can kind of do anything like it's not just your moves from like the bar where you were which I feel like some Queens. Do Fall into sometimes. I felt like the choreography that Jamal given her. Or maybe that part of that. She had thought of herself really worked to overcome any vocal pitfalls. That might have emanated from this part of the challenge and thus the performance really carried it from me and I was here for it. Yeah what I thought was really great and I didn't realize it until my second third and fourth time watching because I've watched this many a time was the widow didn't really have to rely on some of the tricks that we've seen her do before like maybe you could say the car wheel was but as far as I could tell she was doing the Corio that was given to her and she did it throughout the whole thing whereas Heidi who will talk about next has done some things that we've seen in the lips for your life which is why they were like. Oh Heidi we didn't see Madonna. We saw you. Whereas with widow I saw Madonna. I like those moves. Dow's Madonna Bitch and I loved the lyrics to and I know that's not her but the dollar bills and the Kissing Britney Spears and Christina and I liked it katy Perry that just the execution of that. I thought was really great. Yeah we're GONNA give her credit for the words but we can certainly give her credit for the tiny sage her looks and her facial expressions and like the drops in the timing of it. All was spot on. That is not easy to do. Even when you're the way like it's your own words loops thinking to your own words. You still have to know the timing of it all and you get one shot on stage and she pulled it off. Yeah completely completely agree now. Heidi is our last queen. So I just start off by saying I love Heidi to death but I do think that Heidi's performance was one of the weaker ones probably along with Jackie because I did feel I could get the critique that it didn't really feel necessarily like Madonna and I've seen you know a few of Madonna's music videos from this era. This is the like Bitch. I'm Madonna Music Video. Like that was her outfit was exactly from that music video but it did still kind of feel like Heidi leg Madonna would never. I mean maybe never say never. But that head thing where she's which is amazing by the way the leaning on her head and then the bouncing back up which is so smooth and so perfect looks great but to me on. That doesn't scream Madonna. Yeah I felt like she started off so well because the lyrics that you know she's referring to about being older older Madonna and she's she can't move exactly the way that she used to choose younger. She's still got it. She's still that. Bitch. That's the whole theme. And I felt like she started off moving rather gingerly and going slowly into the tricks but then towards the middle and the end she just brought out all of the gymnastics and I was like Kay well now. I felt like this was the time for you to go for comedy. Route like some Queens win a lifting by not showing off their dance moves by showing off their comedic timing if she were to move so gingerly the entire time. That would have deserved better. It would've gone gotten laugh which is going to save you long as you make you laugh. You know there's always a good thing but I think that she was so focused on wanting to look good because she's also a dancer so I feel like it's something it's kind of thing where there is such a good singers that when you try to tell them to sing off key. They can't do it. She's a good dancer that when you try to tell her nod today and it still looks good so yeah just she. She missed the mark. And that's ultimately is what's going to land here in the bottom. Yeah brand what did what were you thinking here? I mean like you guys are pretty much set it. Like there wasn't a whole lot of Madonna. Here it was highly. I felt like she was a little uncomfortable and she was trying her best. And I I'm with you in terms of I love. Heidi and I really was rooting for her here. And I felt like it started off. Okay but then I felt like she lost the plot a little bit as it went on so us. Yeah I was. I was for her here. She was bad because she was good because she was herself. She was Heidi who is amazing. But it just didn't really embody Madonna lyrics. Just weren't helping. The Lear is all about like don't be like older now but it's okay and then she's not movingly she's old is just. It just didn't didn't work. Yeah yeah all right before. We talk about all of the runway looks. Let's take a second to hear from our sponsors and we are back okay are just this week were Winnie. Harlow an ASC brand. How did you feel about our judges Winnie Harlow. Who would? She hopes to say what she even happy to be there. That was a mess hall on America's Next Model yet. She was on season. She was on the first ever season. No I'm about to lie. She was on one of the seasons. Where don't lie because on one of the seasons where they actually had guys in the competition as well she didn't. She had a pretty rough stint on that show that she was able to pick up her career a little bit well. She is phenomenal but she was totally out of place on the judging. Panel of Rupa's drag race. I think she would or two lines the entire very charismatic. It's not even just on this show like I've seen her and other things she's just. She's very bland. I don't know what it is. Yeah well anyway. Let's not talk about her. Let's talk about. Se was phenomenal. She was giving us life. I think that Jackie I just WANNA give a shout out to Jackie. I don't know that she was playing the reality. Tv Game But if she was. I'm like I want to believe that she. I don't want to believe that. It was a heartfelt moment. I want to believe that she was playing the reality game of sucking up to the guest. Judge when you're in the bottom so that they don't put you in the bottom two like A. She was by Saint Tags Alexandria. Cossio Cortez like amazing. What you do and so proud to have you with the other representatives and it's just so amazing to see what you do out there and it really touched me and I'm like okay so Jacki clearly isn't in the bottom. She's going to be third but she's not going to be in the bottom two so I really liked that. And also. It's not easy for politicians to come on Rupaul drag race. Because you never know what's going to happen on Rupaul drag race and let's just be clear. I looked it up Alexandria. Ocasio Cortez is actually thirty years old. But she's going to be thirty one in our over which means she's going to be thirty five. I didn't years from now. I did literally the exact same calculation I was like. Can I vote for her in two thousand twenty four? I was because there's all this talk and I don't know if it's Ryobi the Joe Biden and if he wins may not be a two-term president then you might just. Because he's often said he said he said transitional candidate that's what he said now. I know that there's been talk in the campaign trail that he might actually just serve one term and you know the Democratic Party. I feel like in this not to get too political you guys but just because we're talking to Alexandria Cossio contest. I might as well just say. Oh see that's a whole lot easier but I. I'm so used to not saying that name. I know right. I lost to the fact that I feel like the elements of the Democratic Party. Were sort of like held at bay during this primary that we just had that for years from now they're going to be raring to go and who's going to be there to pick up the pieces. I feel like it's going to be so like. I'm so glad you did that to me because I looked it up and I'm like Oh she's thirty. That means that she's not going to be able to run but then I looked and saw. She's going to be thirty one which is going to thirty five day in. Twenty twenty twenty four. And I'm like so so she knows or you're so now I'm going to be in the middle of a campaign and I'm I need to make sure I come on drag race and represent so I don't offend anybody in a possible constituency in the future but also for possible general election that I didn't do anything that could be used against me and I feel like she threaded that needle and was entertaining really really well and I think she means it to like. She's obviously a fan of the show and she she knows the Lore. She knows some of the other contest in thin. He's very supportive of it. All in I mean she's she's she's she's clearly. She's a very influential person in the political landscape but not too long ago. She was literally a bartender. Like you just get like. She knows what the hell she's talking about and she is here for the rides. I appreciated and not to mention like literally a hosting instagram lives. Posted then knows of Queens. That are coming on instagram. Live in performance. She's about that life okay and when there's a fan that's the guest judge because you know that they're going to be there for it so yes. Alexandria. Cortes she so inspirational. I love her so much. The fact cheese you know a couple of years older than me or one year old or the whatever it's fine oh my God it makes me want to quit my job and run for Congress terrible. I know literally though I was like damn estimate our opinions. I want help people to like. Maybe I should like in. That's that's the kind of person that should be in a position that you want people that are inspiring and she she is so yes. I will say just to be totally dragged me for a moment. I was living for that dress. I was living for that draft so she was wearing. She wore it so well was gorgeous. Gorgeous she's gorgeous. Everything is Gorgeous. Just makes me happy. And she was a fantastic judge as well. So like is there anything. She can't do not fair. Yeah there are well. Let's talk about simply Jan. Our first look that we get to see on the runway and she did the Glamour Sonian Airways now. I think it's only fair. Let's talk about Jannine. Gdp kind of as a payer because for me. It kind of comes to the comparison again of like who? I think deserves to win because I think for me. This Jan Look of Michelle. Visage was so spot on and it really was that. Glam Azzoni Airways look mine. Yes I mean she led to achieve and painted like her and then she added the prop of the of the suitcase. Really Tie together. She had the BOOB. She had the nail she is. She had. She had everything going for like. It was the attention to detail like so many Queens was was just was was great. I loved it and the paint. The paint is what I'm looking at. I'm just like Oh my God like if there was a tiebreaker they were looking for a tiebreaker. They really should have gone with her on this one. Maybe because like the paint is so Michelle. I still feel like how I feel about about the performance but like as far as the runway goes if if they're even looking at the runway which it didn't really seem like they weren't for the most part. The runway was pretty spectacular. Yeah the thing is like I get. Michelle has had I mean. She's a lot in her career. And so you're going to have a lot of different looks but I love something. That just screams like quintessential Michelle and there are a couple. We looked essential. Yes there are a of that data and I thought this was one of them especially talking about the way she paints. Yeah exactly and GT's was like okay. I'm not backtracking but was this. A little bit of a cop out was a cop out. The girl is fucking skinny. The goal is looking pretty and she went for a look that she was. I don't want to. I want to think outside the box because all the other girls that she wore on the runway. So let me find. Let me like do some kind of deep dive in some look. That's really will lead Corbett. I can pull up because I'm skinny. And all this that and the third to the point that it was so obscure that didn't even have a real fucking picture of her for the side by side. They had a fucking piece of Fan Art. You had your own search if he wanted to know shit because if we're talking about runways with thousands of shells yeah sure okay. Fine think of the box you know do something do something. That's a little bit different but at the same time if we have to look to make sure that this is something that's good then you're you're missing the mark here in the morning. I mean at this and then with the wind here like I just got the flashbacks to the coming out here in a diaper because look a little bit. Because you're a she's a model directly this look and put it on widow for example like what do you think the critise look like then exactly ashamed bitch like yeah sure you got? Flaunt your assets. We get it we get it but like I just like you said it perfectly like this coupled with the fact that she already want something that was close enough to give it in Jan and it's just like okay. What's going on here? What is going on Brigham Morris Girl because that was essentially ajws look was some fabrics. She looks gorgeous. She looks gorgeous and the attention to detail of the nails. Sure that's a thing to walk the runway doll with the nails and the way she had her hands in the way that really works. But I like the fact that I'm like so. Did she like this? Is this a cop out and in both of you in unison? Relief Yes yes. It is where where she looked like. Madonna. Maybe in the in the in the challenge she looked nothing like Michelle. Like I just I just did not get from Michelle from her at all. And that's the point of the runway and you know well. Let's talk about somebody who really was quintessential. Michelle and now is Jackie Cox brand. I thought this was so iconic if you don't believe me that. She saves herself from the bottom with kissing Alexandra Cossio Cortez's as just a little bit saved herself in the bottom with this. Look this was great. I'm so she's from that area and she was giving us that area but also there are other queens that are from the area and didn't didn't give us what I feel like. What's Quintessential Michelle and Jackie? Did like I love. This beat the way she's got. Her boobs positioned a insofar as the core set. And like it's like it. Just boy it really. I know the Michelle had a breast reduction in recent years. That's the Rupaul. Cheer if you were thinking about well how did she say like cheer? If you're thinking about something like this or boobs yeah exactly but like this look to me. Just as so quintessential Michelle with the hair and the boobs and the rings and the nails and like Oh. It's so great and the way she would act it on the runway to home me like I was just made me so happy like and you can instantly look at this and go okay. She's missed Michelle. I think protest. It was great. Anything about it was awesome. I think what really incentive with the top for me was just Michelle's reaction in how she was just so enamored by. Just let the fact that this whole. I just love this idea in general I like the fact that Michelle's getting some shine because sometimes maybe I'm maybe I'm being a little bit too sensitive here sometimes. Michelle is the butt of the joke ally and I'm like she seems to take it in stride very well Beth Thornton something like okay. This is getting a little because at the end of the day. This is a drag competition that features primarily a lot of men like this all these men in the room ragging on this one lady and sometimes so. I'm glad that this was sort of like a celebration of I. Felt like Jackie's was one of the ones that she responded very very well too and that made me happy to see so. That's my entire life. Is You guys? Just sit around Iraq on me though. Yes you're the. Michelle was the thing that I loved. The most was when Jackie shows off that lightning bolt ring and show goes. She's got my ring or something like that very honest response to just being genuinely excited that somebody has emulated you in such in. Such a way was really heartwarming. And Michelle's face when re said the night of a thousand Michelle's Oh my gosh you know she her job on the grounds that they kept it secret from her. That's that's awesome. It was a joke at first. Are you with me on that? When they said it she was like the category tonight night of a thousand Michelle Barrages. And I'm like Oh like that's just like a joke and I'm like Oh they actually are doing that and I just WanNa you know. No jokes here. We'll bre is the next queen to walk the runway and she did the season ten. I think finale. Look Amman yes. Season two finale spot on the dress looked almost identical to what she had on. I love the little bit with the card thing but you are the winner of this challenge. A little overdone. I think a little overdone really she I just. She showed it and then she turned kept walking the runway. Then she kept showing it and when we knew that she was going to be in the bottom. It was like it was a little bit of a cringe moment to me. I mean I was. I thought it was like do it again. Woah and he's going to be going out you might as well just give them something in the fact that she is the person that goes home it just makes me but I liked it she. She embodied season ten finale. Michelle pretty well. I guess technically they did say British name at the end just to go home but yeah the look I thought was. I mean yeah. I thought that was cute. It was fine. It looked a little on the cheap side or at least the pictures that. I'm looking at right now but I thought it fit her body of really. Well I mean she. We've talked about this before. She knows the way that her body looks. And I'm sure that this gown and this choice was with that silhouette in mind Brent. Yeah I mean like as far as the silhouette goes. I'm coming for the card but over the other than that. I felt like she did a great job. I remember this art of the show when she came out and had the stress on and look like this with the with the glasses that she's taking on and off and like I feel like it was. It was looking great like as they talked about not come for the earrings but just to come for the earrings. Michelle never does like. I need to go back and look at her look from before but she'd never does understated earrings like that like. That's not what she ever seen at in Paul's drag race so I I understood the judge's criticism that also I know she's trying to emulate the dress but the fabric looks a little cheap. It looks a little cheap to me. It does not look like the Michelle facades dress. It looks like a cheap imitation of it like the Walmart brands. You know what I mean. the wish brand but But yeah I thought. The critique of the earrings was extraordinarily nitpicky. Same time that's at that level like everybody did so well. You really are nitpicking at this point and so I could understand it a little bit more although it did feel like come on you know what's earrings but at the same time you know. Obviously we all saw the performances and everything was so like so well done all right. Well Jada is our next queen who also again has such an literally iconic look of Michelle. This is this is the one also from that. What was the acting challenge? It was the Merle Ginsberg one right where they all from season. I WANNA say seven. Where what how what happened to Merle Ginsberg? I think this is the Michelle outfit that they had the Queens who played Michelle wear so I thought this was truly truly iconic Brent. This one was great. I'm on I was living for this. I know that she didn't get the icon exactly right or the necklace or whatever it is. I think it's a necklace right around around her neck but like the font is not exactly right and maybe you can come from that a little bit but overall look so fucking hot and out of her way to try to get other aspects of it so on and the paint. I do feel like was a a darker paint us for has run the ice shadow more than Jada normally gives us because she's trying to emulate Michelle. I really was here for this look. Also with gloves and the attention to details for his sexual sexuality goes. I JUST. I love this. Also there's another is is who is the Jada the one that has the star runner boobs or is it Michelle or is it just data. Sorry talking about is Michelle. I think she has that okay. I can't remember I thought it was Michelle has that and then and then Jada was emulated. Because I don't think I've seen that before from Jada Yeah it's not often that Michelle whereas like her breasts that wide open. I don't think she has it because from the rusal. She's Jada so she even got that right. That's that's really great. I love the to the only thing that was taking me out of it was the breast play. You can see the clear as she's walking on. The runway wiggle like breath is supposed to but with that comes like the separation of the plate and the rest of her of her chest. So I kept. I kept looking at it once again like we're nitpicking here. But that was the one thing that I was like. Oh I just wish that was like I wish that she at leg. I don't know I don't even know what you would do like blended with the makeup or I don't know I don't know but it sort of took me out of it for a little bit. Yeah I had the exact same thing I kept staring at it mainly because I like staring at titties but also because underneath as well so it was like a combination of the two. That really drew my eye. Okay Crystal Crystal Crystal Khazal Lady in red all right. Here's the thing. I am a hundred percent behind supporting crystal doing her style of makeup. However this is the one time where like this is your opportunity to do Michelle size. Just do it once like do try to paint a little bit more like Michelle. Amman as my thought in this moment otherwise I loved yeah it was especially since they gave the side by side and you can cleared clearly. See the stark contrast in in the face speed. I mean the out that was there and everything. All you had to deal is just not be crystal from the neck up. She couldn't do it. So Yeah Yeah. It was one of the weakest of all of them for me. The looks brand. What about you? Yeah I'm with you on that. She went really far back and tried to grab something from Michelle's earlier history But the only thing that I could see was was the beat. The beat was wrong. And I'm with you. We Love Crystal and I do feel like. She's made try to make changes to her makeup to satisfy the judges but also still trying to be like a officially crystal but this is the one time where if she wanted to show off her makeup skills. I feel like she really should have done the. Michelle beat here but I don't think that she's capable of that or that she's thought of doing that. Also it might have been a part where she's not very confident in like. Here's the thing if crystal new okay. I'M GONNA end up in the top this challenge. Then I feel like she would've gone out here maybe and like been open to the idea of painting like Michelle but when you're nervous about your performance and you don't know how it's going to be received by the judges and you haven't been Indian up in the top at all previously. I feel like you do things that are closer to home that you're familiar with this. Yeah that's entirely possible. Fine Crystal Fine. I still love you. All right. Well Brent the next queen widow who you love. Tell me about her luck. I mean this is just every thing I I gotTa love you widow. I really hope widow wins the season. If it's not g good like I just love what Ovando. She's just she's giving me everything. She is like a thick big girl. Who is coming here and giving US sets sex. I tell you it is just sex on top of sex sex stick and I'm so here for it as far as the actual part of the shines like comparing it to Michelle. Besides she necessarily got all of it. It's a little bit like you. Squint your eyes and yeah. She kind of looks like back then. It's such a fantastic look and it's like I feel like she could have done like so many different things. The Michelle has done throughout the years and the fact that sheesh chose this one that so form-fitting so tight and I know my show a lot of things but the this kind of tight is different. Where it's literally showing up every wrinkle every curve every part of your body and she went up there and she owned that ship and I was so here for it. I love this law I I don't say anything at all. Okay here's the thing I feel like a little bit. She was plucked from a different challenge and stuck here. Because I even looking at the side by side. I immediately saw tun of things that were different so I was like If this is a compared to pictures I can identify all of the differences here so I love the choice to go with something. I love the fact that she is unapologetic. Much like unapologetic Madonna about showing off her body. I think that that's amazing to me. Ahmad I just. I didn't quite see the Michelle here. I just feel like if we're doing nine thousand. Michelle was doing nine thousand Michelle the sizes at drag race. Not You know. Obviously it's People Wanna think outside the box but I think I think G G and her and crystal and Heidi tried to do something that was outside of the context of drag race and the unfortunate reality is that one is waiting to be received a lot better than the others in that one is g because skinny queen the other ones. I just feel like you are biting yourself in the foot or by yourself in the foot. Just feel like you are. You're you're selling yourself short is you. Don't go for a look that it's more recognizable because she wore it on the show and I just feel like this look is so pedestrian and while it might be something that Michelle war is it drag race run way worthy and I just don't know if it is. I'm not saying that she looks bad. I just don't think that she hit the mark in the same. I think that the market should you got away with it and other something that she did Yeah I have a problem if a queen is gonNA pull from going to pull from different looks. Michelle has done. That's not necessarily drag race but again when I saw the comparison side by side it was like this to me is like seems like a little bit of there are clear differences here and so. I think that was kind of like the biggest thing that stood out to me also. There's something about the top of the pants that bought the elastic in the pants. I don't know like it was higher wasted. I know than Michelle's was which I'm sure you know. It was a choice that she made. But I don't know it kind of feels. Like maybe like the pants and then repurpose them but didn't look very didn't look cheap. Which is Kinda like jam? Sorry I love widow too but I was just like I was and I was excited to see what she was going to do because usually she brings it for the runways as well so I was like. Oh what's going to happen? And then she turns the corner. And I'm like Oh okay well given your opinion on what? Michelle looks should have been chosen. Please walk me through your thoughts on. Heidi's look which was based on when she visited the set of Townie which I had to look up is the show the only way is Essex. The same thing is just like you're digging into the archives like you're like what are you like? What are you searching on the Internet like you? Just it's strange and it doesn't. It looks to pedestrian in the news. One thing that Michelle van cise does not look on this show pedestrian. She always has something. That's interesting on and I just felt like you went for something that the most interesting thing about it was the hair I come on. I don't I don't know I just it. Just it's not working. It just feels very stale. And it's very I mean you you you thought your you try. You can try to think outside of the box and you're not even in the box at all now. Sorry we're we're talking about Heidi right. Yeah sorry I got a text. Phone about the government stimulus checks. I was checking to see. I have this But yeah like look. How do you in the things that I feel like? We're given credit to Japan for okay. This is an amazing outfit. And yet you dragged it up a little bit more and it looks even drag gear. I felt like that Heidi tried to do that in her version of the outfit but it came off looking really not appropriate. It is like the hair is wrong. The makeup is not right. It just looks like it's the same old same old from her. Also the outfit like I've never seen Michelle decides that boring in that cheap before. Like I WANNA look cheap. She she owns that but I've never seen her look that muted before and that's what this outfit looks like. It looks muted to me and that's just not Michelle. Also I can question the fit. The fit address doesn't look great to me either like it looks like she's lost some weight and it looks like it doesn't exactly fit the way it needs to. Yeah okay so he. I'm looking at the picture right now. And the hair is wrong. The earrings a wrong. Don doesn't have a necklace. Michelle has a necklace. The dress is wrong. The pattern is wrong. The bus line is wrong. The coat thing this like Scholl Poncho thing. Whatever is wrong the only thing that looks close to right or the shoes so. I will get credit for the shoes but if you're going to pick on Britta for having the wrong earrings literally. Everything except for the shoes here is off. So that's the true. T T okay only just talking about Cherry Pie crops. Did we talk about your pie? I don't remember jokes. Good starting she's starting to re recognize a pattern in silhouette when it comes to a lot of her dresses which is Interesting but other than that. I'm did she do again. It's not on the so you. Will we get these dresses from the repulsed? Drag Race Instagram. And they don't put it on there so I remember what she did. Kitty girl the Kitty girl. Look from the with the choreography and all my God. Yes Okay I love this look only because I was like she got the choreography right. Like I've watched a kiddy girl video like at least five thousand times because it's literally one of my favorite things ever which is right before. Shinjo got robbed not but the kiddy girl video was so good and also Kennedy Davenport isn't it and I live Kennedy so that's not the point. The point is that Michelle the show and Ross and Carson have a little moment where they're like you know do you boom. That's all they do. That's literally they do. And the fact that Sherry Bite of that we're doing this number just cracked me up so I know we're not supposed to like Cherry Pie. I don't like Cherry Pie but I got what the judges were giggling over this and it was so Michelle. So Michelle's social okay. Let's wrap this up okay. So Sherry Pie. Jada widow. Were all safe. We had Jan in the top. Gee-gee ends up winning Christos also in the top and then g no who then. Jackie was decided to be safe. And we have Britta. And Heidi as our bottom to Brent. What did you think about this decision? And what did you think about the lip? Sing not surprised. By the decision. The lip sync was a little boring to me like the last week. We got frozen and I know that you know Mon came from fire of it all when it was supposed to be frozen and at least it was something that kept me entertained but This not so much. This was pretty boring to me. This is what happens. I feel like when Roo definitely wants to get rid of someone she just puts out a very non non exciting song. Yeah it was the song then like and because of that then route can kind of do what she wants as far as like if she wants to give somebody the heave. Ho Who? She's not here for any more. That makes sense. You guys know what I'm talking about agree like like yeah like their times in Paul's drag race where somebody who you know. Maybe like on another day. Britain might have been able to defeat. Heidi if If the number was frozen from last week But because of the song neither of them did much and so because of that they're basically going off the way that the season's been going in Britain hasn't been performing and thus she was given the heave. Ho like she didn't do enough to change the judges mind that it was her that needed to go. Honestly what I was thinking it was like Damn League. Heidi you cannot be in the bottom again because if you do you mostly young because she is she really busted out a lot of tricks for this song and I really felt like she should play the reality. Tv game caught onto the fact that British power. We're going to be the one to go here this week in the row on the bottom like a of course when. I fight from the beginning but maybe I don't need to show all the tricks especially since this dancing challenge week so already showed some metrics. I just feel like if she's ever in the bottom again she's going to have to. I don't know like terrorists new Aso in order to stay because at this point. What else are you going to give us onstage? I okay so all things considered so I knew I knew British or me and I felt in my heart. That was probably GonNa go home. Third Time in the bottom. You don't lip sync four times. Like Britain is going to go. So that's what I was thinking but then when I started to out of all the points kind of afterwards if we could assign points for all these things I was like wow I thought Heidi's look was worse. I thought Heidi's performance was actually worse and if I had to pick a winner I might have picked. Britta as the winner of this lip synch. Even though I agree it was closed. It was boring. It wasn't like really necessarily here for it. You Know Rollo's Heidi I love Heidi. I wasn't ready to see Heidi go so I was happy. I guess with the decision but I have seen it just based on performance going either way but this is a reality. Tv show in this season especially feels over produced by by girl by. I hear you her points. I'd just felt like eight on. I thought like that Britta was going to get the hippo. And that's what happened. Yeah Okay brand-new do anything to say about untucked to nothing to say about untucked on. Do you have anything to say? But I did want to talk about something else really quickly before we depart for the for the end of the show you WanNa talk about. I'm good okay Brantley I just want to talk about this because I feel like this isn't getting enough play and I really feel like that. It deserves to get more play. So have you guys noticed the Queen's who are verified and who not verified on twitter? Let me just tell you the queen's that are currently in the competition who are verified twitter Sherry Pie is verified and she has about seven thousand followers Jan sport is verified and crystal method is also verified. You WanNa know who's not currently verified with more followers than Cherry Pie and Jan Sport Jada essence hall widow Von. Do and Jackie Cox please all and also Haiti and closet. Can you please tell me what those queens have in common insofar as the other Queens go because how in the world is somebody likes? Cherry Pie and crystal method who literally came from nowhere verified twitter when a queen like Jada Essence Hall and Widow. Von Do are not verified. Anybody got anything for this twitter. Be Racist. Y'All just saying so. Yeah that I know that the Queen's primarily use instagram. The I mean look I'm not going to take away from what is clearly like seems to be some sort of systemic bias right like. How do you get verified? Do you apply for thing. I used to be able to get us on twitter. You used to be able to apply and I was literally almost at my ten thousand follower so I was like counting the days because you once she got the ten thousand dollars you can apply right then because some white racist assholes. White supremacist got verified. Twitter twitter literally took down the entire verification system. And since then they have not put it back up so basically you just have to wait for the good graces of twitter to verify you and thus that's why these queens are literally powerless to do anything unless somebody brings attention to it and I know that you know maybe our little podcast do anything but I'm really hopeful that more people will be outraged by the fact that these queens who are asking about it. It's not like like. Yeah Yeah I take your point. Liana there they do instagram. And that's great but they also use twitter. Jada was just on the other day asking about the fact that. Why hasn't she been verified yet? It was asking. Why haven't I been verified yet again? Why have other Queens than verified of Lesser Stature? Who happens to be white not taking anything away from them especially like crystal and Japan. But it's the truth and these other Queens who are also phenomenal. Who are on. The same season had not been verified. Please tell me why yeah. It's really coming down from what I can understand. It's about who you know person that I follow actually image to Buki Young White. He's a young comedian. He's just got to hire to the daily show with Trevor Noah. He has been amassing a twitter following for like the past three or four years. I think he's got around like almost two hundred thousand now. He got their fide at the end of last year He's been suspended quite a few times for tweeting out some controversial stuff like he. He'll change his name so like Mir the CNN handle so it makes it seem like CNN. Tweeting something and so it happens sometimes and he'll get suspended this time around. I guess he made an offensive joke about Joe Biden. Not being dead but actually going outside to get some. Dick or something like that. Twitter suspended him and the only spend him this time but they also went ahead and removed his blue checkmark but before they went ahead and did that he did have a goal thread about like how is really about if you know some particular a white person that works for twitter in NYC. And that's how you get yourself through get verification so I'm guessing you know because people Jan who lives in NYC has certain connections with certain people. And I and twitter's office is in NYC so it's probably that's how she was able to get you know through so if you don't have that connection then you're sort of like Sol. And I don't think that any of them have that connection and it certainly does not look good that of course all of the ones that are black are also the ones that are not there especially in some of them are like you know. GonNa make it towards the end of the show like it's just like what's going on here and the same thing happened last year like I think a while for Sochi nutmeg to get anything on twitter. So it's it's weird. It's a little strange yeah. Heidi is also not verified on twitter. I just checked. Although she is verified on Insta- so for instance Sherry Pine widow are the only two that were not verified Jan Sport Crystal Method Jada Essence Hall. Jackie Cox and Haiti. All were verified so actually has a process whereas twitter does not and I don't know why they don't use the INSTA- process because I feel like Insta- has a handle on it right honestly. Play people are paying to verify. I think that's what it comes down to. How do I send my money? I'm using my stimulus. Check to get verified on twitter actress game in assimilating the economy whatever. Okay well next week. We are going to have the queen's create and market extravagant products for a new drag queen lifestyle brand droop. Which I'm excited about. I think that's GonNa be fun. So we got goop goop parody. Which I think will be hilarious. The other thing that was announced this week was the celebrity. Sorry secret celebrity drag race because we all know it's a secret it's going to be a four week event that starts on the twenty fourth of April. So what we're GONNA do. We talked about it. And we're GONNA see if it's good or not if it's good we'll talk about it if it's not so good we'll probably still talk about it just in a very abbreviated form. So just you guys now we will be doing at least some modicum of coverage on it. It just depends on whether or not it's good so that yeah. I feel like it's going to be really good if anything if not for the celebrities then for all of the girls that are coming back because you've seen all the prime material shake who lays their bob the drag queen trixie Matteo. Who Else Shangila is there? So many people so. I'm definitely going to queen's comeback to help out. Yeah I think we you know. We don't have any concept of the caliber of celebrities that we're GONNA see but at least we're going to see some bomb ass celebrity Queens back on our screen so come on pointed out. I think that's going to be amazing. Brands where can people find you on social media? What are you up to these days? You can find me at one lucky gay that is one spelled out in the across all platforms twitter instagram and snapchat. And you can see me playing old made with my nephew and niece over the weekend. I was actually pretty fun. Somebody took video that. My my brother-in-law took video of that and it was all over my my little instagram and I thought it was very cute especially when I lost the game and she said you're the old maid uncle brand. You're the old made like I get that a lot on my God but yeah you can find me. They're currently not doing whole lot. So we're talking about drug crazed obviously but big brother candidate has long since been cancelled because of corona virus. In the one thing I am doing helping out and definitely promoting sequester. So if you guys didn't watch all of US Liana Amman and myself were involved in a Rha sequester many week and a half ago and lit up. Social Media in fact was trending on twitter. I just WANNA say not. It wasn't trending on twitter. For like the trends for you. It was trending on real twitter. Like actual rankings of twitter. And I was so here for that so if that happened with the RHA P sequester mini. I can only imagine what's going to happen with the upcoming big brother. Canada versus big brother. Us Many and people asking US meet. Erin other people that talk about sequester for coverage of that and all I can say is this that I feel like any preview coverage would probably have a disparate impact on the game because I know the players would listen to it if I definitely talked about who I thought was the favourite like basically who who is the only on who are the people with the most connections. I feel like people listen to it. So you're more likely to get a post game retrospective from us than a pre-game but we try and have you taken care of especially if you're looking for content. Yeah definitely as soon as I saw the BBB can versus. Cbs is coming anything. Because I know I know. For a fact there are players that will see tweets and that is going to affect. I just want to see how the game plans out. And that's IT I don't want to. I don't want to have any kind of like eighty kind of like the hand on any scale. I just WANNA I will say this though that when we was looking for people who wanted to play in the Rha pizza question many and then I I asked for. People and people responded. Liana was one of the first people to respond and immediately. After she responded. I was like you're heading the fact that you just expose. You are actually together like a couple of weeks ago. Aren't yet your heating. And they ended up going to the end anyway so I don't think you necessarily matter no matter mine. Where can people find you? You can find me on twitter at Amman. Add Win same thing for instagram. I actually have been thinking about Doing a little rewatch. Every single. Big Brother Premiere episode Canadian included. Because of the fact that we are missing out on so many awesome moments in the cancellation it'd be began eight so I think I'm going to be streaming those on twitch. Anybody wants to reach out and hang out with me there. I'm going to be doing that sometime this week. You can find me on twitter Liana Liana Rha p Mike Bloom and I talked on the NBA this week with journalist and tectonics star Dave Jorgensen which he was so incredibly enthusiastic has some amazing stories. Apparently he was in casting and we got to play a ton of FUN Games so check that out in the survivor feed and then we as Killian. I talked about the mass singer episode. So that is a out as well. The come patron of rob has a podcast checkout patriotic dot com for all the added benefits and bonuses that you get when you become a patron leave your star ratings and reviews on Itunes of course huge shoutout to Scott team here behind the scenes and we will talk to. Y'All Soon I.

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"Hey everybody lost their episode of her. We Are San Diego's LGBTQ pop culture. Podcast and I'm your host Tony. And she heard me Ms Mariam t and you guys. It's just Mexican Eric semi today by by Robbie on sound. Hey everybody I'm here to high raw and we have grow pal of the show. She's been on many many many times here today. It's not jenny anymore. We already decided it's pussy with gusting all of the ways the body ages you go through this. I mean I liked the name. I didn't think we had to excuse. Komo. I said sometimes when you're a lady and you'll get on new years you get some little must horse. I thought she was talking about her. Percy about my nose oh I hate Bussey too so I hate that yeah. Bliss e Way Pussy Pussy. Yeah it's so gross. Yeah they use and like gay culture and some guys are injured over the years. I mean fuck up that Bloody Agean. Genuine bill was like boy my birth name. Church alert you to hear my duties Django. What is everybody drinking today? 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I'm GONNA stop the name out in the name of the episode of we saw some really great show. Did you see we saw? Haiti's town was it did you. We can mazing. It was good. I just I can't I don't want to say too much about it but it was awesome. It was such a good show and then we saw jagged little pill ooh the Alanis Morissette and it was. It was a really good show and I like I like what they did with the book to make to make it a show and then we saw which was described. We got free tickets we it was described by my cousin as Mama Mia on crystal meth just so much spectacle how visually I heard. It's stunning amazed. I can't even. I don't WanNa say amazing again. It was just yeah it was. It was so good. Every single detail in the whole theater was was decorated. And I can't even I couldn't even count. How many confetti cannons and then and then fiery Sparkley. I mean just so much talent behind. So here's the thing. I know the movie. The book is the book. Is the book silly. It's a silly whole thing. They did some cool things like changed out some of the music. So it's like now I'm going to be like toxic isn't it now and Lady Gaga. It's the second act opening. Now I'm totally blanking. The Saginaw Song on. I'm fired right now. Romance even say one word one of US can figure out how I'm going to New York at the end of the month to see my brother and we're GONNA WE'RE GONNA see a lot of shows we're seeing I believe. We're seeing doubtfire preview. Bissau fire the musical. I better be good. I know and then verge who's afraid of Virginia Woolf with Laurie Metcalf is GonNa be playing. I'm so jealous of Plaza Suite with Sarah Jessica Parker and Matthew Project together the company the Revival Company. That sounds good. Hear about it not agenda. I've ever now and then we're going to the gay bars. We went to one called. Oh shoot hello no brain thank you. I know we went to one while I was there. It was a way overcrowded with Bachelorette parties walked out. And I said I feel like there should be a rule where you can go into a gay bar with as a girl as long as you're with your as you just can't go with your other girls. I just it was too. I didn't like it either and I was like I belong here. Y'All don't I heard my fruit. Flies aren't yeah. I wear skirts right. I can't know what that is an interesting topic when he's here when you see especially for a straight woman being involved in the gay community as a fruit fly whatever you WANNA call but somebody. Who's younger girls here? Coming up in like how he say groups of girls going without a gay somebody who's been around the community for so long. How does that? How does how are you going to say? Do you have. Oh my age but I'm always curious about that. Because they know like my my best e she she always has. Lena always has an opinion about that. Well I just I think we you guys talked about this one time too and I was even there but I get it. I get that it's fun to go see drag shows as a Bachelorette party or something like that that that's fine but I'm just thinking they had a sign in this bar that said streak girls know who I was like. I totally get it and I I. I mean it's obviously there can't be a rule it silly to think that but it's it's kind of like. I feel like you need to be with your gay friends if you're going in there. I'm GONNA get emails or hate mail you pussy whiskers that's accurate. Maybe Pussy whiskers for Halloween. What does that look while your face? We have to paint it and then we're going to attach yarn we. We could crochet some. I was thinking more like cats like you're one of the extras from extras in cats even regretted being so it was a big week couple of weeks two weeks. We haven't talked about this on the show. We haven't I don't know yes you guys. Rupa's drag race in twelve is on and we have a lot of a lot is because we didn't cover it so this the newest episode week to just happened last night and all of the Sherry Pie drama. Britta drama has come out so we're going to get into our thoughts of the whole season so far the looks all of that. So let's start with the first episode. Came out a week ago with that. The the original which was and so. We're not worried about spoilers. Because we figure out spoilers happening yes just just know that people still let me pull up the list so last week's episode so good so so I mean it was amazing. I haven't been excited about drag race and I like I like I was watching it and screaming at the TV. Screening loved it. It felt a little bit like a little bit like season. Four drag race. Deering people that I could really see myself kicking it with or beginning friends with it was really really nice. They did a great job in it was just so refreshing to see drag race back to old school dregs and Roop Hollick amazing. Oh she had her face polled. So do we know that how knowledge as we know. I applaud her for doing it. I know nothing. Maisy that's funny. I totally didn't even I just was curious. What can we do to waiting? So she's like sixty to do it like I'm ready for a face lift now. We now call me Daddy. Pull me up hold last weekend now. Getting so for the first for the first episode it was. Let's Britta where I really like. She within little. Yeah not a good week. I don't know about what happened to her. I know about Cherry Pie by audience. What happened let's start with British for so what was the drama with? Britta is that she had allegations of sexual harassment against her that a couple of other drag performers and people had said that but she came on the show. Yeah Yeah So. She came out not from the season from the season. Back in New York. Yeah so she came out with a statement after talking to lawyers because it took a couple days and she came out with a statement denying all of it and just giving her explanation leaving it at that okay and that was her drama and so far there hasn't been any repercussions on Rupaul. Drag racer anything. And it definitely got overshadowed by the diary done Sherry which we're going to talk about an is so the first episode was Britta Crystal Meth favourite crystal meth aid. Let's G good. Yes who looks like a serial killer out of drag? I'm just GONNA say that. He looks like he's like chops up. Bodies and hydrogen in the trunk of Honda Civic. Tell me I'm wrong. I'm not a bad thing. I'm saying he looks a little home aside homicidal because like what were coca staring at us and high he in closet. Yeah Jackie Cox Let's see who else does is Nikki. Doll was on the first one. And Yeah Widow von do so. All of those were the first episode. A what an incredible group of Girls Karema Party so the. What did you think of the workroom? Why like who is who hit for you. Miss Marianne the work room when they first come in. And you make that interest you give your one liner. Yeah well for the Soda. I wasn't crazy with anybody's one liner to open with. I thought those could more But however Britta to start off with the bitches painted you cannot argue that. Her bag is absolutely stunning. I loved it. Her veneer stick out farther than her titties. Do as she looks like. She's constantly eating an apple like when she talked. Gosh I I love it very death like Hillary dying watching tints name. You're now watching. Vh One. I thought the outfit was very much like that was announced that I could see myself wearing the pink with the Leopard. Oh yeah the piping. I thought that was great. So good Yeah that was and the crystal method. Of course just you know. I Love A campy. Kooky Yuki Weirdo shave so far actually like I know a lot of people were if he on her and they were like. Herwig is bad greenland because she came in and the clown. Yeah but I I am enjoying her and I just love how everything's high and gray. I really enjoyed. Oh we'll get to the room but who else Who Else in that episode? Oh G G good comes into the outfit was great. She really is the pirate the oil and her her mom's a costumes. Her mom makes Oliver Shit radical. She's definitely going to be like the. Look Queen Obviously and. She says that she has comedy and stuff behind it. We'll see not seeing that yet. We'll be the more I'm leaving you unread. The the song that was an Nikki massage was like I wanNA steal that lineup. Your favorite Derek workroom. Walk Ins. I don't know I it. So my favorite who was like my standout favourite surprise for me was Heidi and closet. That's locked in. I wasn't that interested but then once I heard the story and like Oh. I'm in love. And her mom run out. Carolina people where the chicken outnumber the papal her during her. Meet the Queen's. I'm America's next drag superstar because you ain't never had a clean with the gap as big as mine. Three-quarters bonaire I. I'm obsessed with the Queen. I also love when she went to Nicki Minaj and was like what about my face. Don't you like Oh an actor. Who else did you like Eric. I mean I licked Britta. I thought she was the liquor next. We're going to have sexual allegations again. Just oh it would it be the verse Make Doll. I thought his banning own. Y'All yeah boy also is really you know he's gorgeous. No but I have a little little crush on him. I did like to. I'd fight you. Okay well I don't I asked him. I like Nikki dolls. Look Yeah Yeah I read. It was my top Britta. I loved what she wore. I love her walk. She was great. I liked Jackie Cox. I like her cookie old school style. Drag Jackie caucuses the hottest toy of the season. And anybody who thinks otherwise? I agree with Larry Hi God. He's Yes Giora. I WANNA his hairy back. He's got a rug down there. It's not Harry because he's going to learn how to actually cover it up take out is correct. He's pushing problem and I have to say. Gee Gee could get it. Now was my favorite from the I. I mean I love. I love but as soon as it panned to her. She's big is in the browser teeth. And I'm like you may see and like you probably stabbed a bit. She probably as I gotTa stab a bitch. That's what I'd say. Anybody got a knife kidding. Can't getting on that Okay who else was in the in the first group that we miss. Oh and do you think a widow? She's she's actually really talented not wanting to like her. That's where we're allies and I'm like. Oh she's really talented. I I don't know. She seemed kind of complaining through the episode. I know it's empire editing editing but then the like lip sync battle with the bending of the legs. And like I've never seen anything like that. Took her shoes off for it. Yeah so the the those were intra looks. I really liked I. It was solid I episode. Where does my least favorite inter look because there's just a bodies it was some feathers on it? Yeah but that's just that's just my opinion on that I think the best entrance look was definitely Britta and yeah I would agree with Crystal Chris. Crystals was different. Yeah I love. What did you guys think of? Uh the very first the fall and runway. Yes I just love. I think all of these girls have to be committed because they had to turn out five outfits for this I Eight entrance spring fall the performance and the runway right five outfits. Yahtzee LINE EPISODE FOR THE FIRST ONE. That is insane. So who is your favorite for the fall? Spring or spring fall run whether we're two different ones bringing them fall the whole that combined. You know it's weird. It was a mini challenge. Fucking Caccia said because they did that. In season seven Spring Kaci goes. This is not a mini challenge. This maxine mini challenge with wings. Things got league. Yes I thought okay so I'll say this as a precursor Brita filter. Both dresses were great. It was the same fucking dress for spring and fall. Same Silhouette yes. They were fine. I think who stood out really for Spring. I like dolls and a light. Jeez with The horse DG's so would've do with missy Elliott Neon neoprene spring spring. Her biker. The PASTEL Pastel. I don't remember spring. What was it was the pink Yellow Blue Biker? It was like all kinds of pastels motorcyclist logo with. She's the one that had like a helmet for just about every love which was so such a good idea to though to be well like I'm going to do one in every one of these because there are five. Look what I've done. Yeah matter of Heidi and closet her wardrobe malfunction. That was ugly. She wore that behalf. The Lion King or something Lisa Frank Lion Own affirms Rumsfeld South Carolina and toppled off of her big house. She's walking but I think the pay off of that and getting I think the best quote of the season so far is civil rights. I tell him you could see the duct tape. I have been saying that today. Danielle's podcast friend of the podcast if you haven't heard her episode. Iv Naomi when she's like Oh civil rights. My favorite look though yes out of both runways crystal methods. Freddie Krueger with the band aid the band aid dig. The safety pin runs. Joan does needles was. This mother was good because I would like to think if I had to do a fall. Runway Challenge. I would do something like that. I think I would do a Mariam. Does Elvira is what happened to my take on Elvira Pastel Elvira pageants Elvira. No what I'm curious. Rob You watch these past five. Raider what do you think? Because they know you'll care the one who's like what are they doing like why are they? Your rob is the one that's like. I don't think I think they should have a different. I'm silhouette I I can't remember exactly nevermind. Mind during your mic off. Everyone starts doing a rob impression. Has a Robin Tony? Who else was a didn't care for was the widow. Von Do just BEIGE ON BEIGE ON BASE. I E the fall one. That was fall. I with somebody like Michele. Somebody liked it and I was. I can't remember maybe it was Carson did like Rupaul like she's from the House of La Bays you Carson. No that was Rupaul. Which if you don't know that reference to your God watch Paris burning and educate yourself have you have you never seen. Paris is burning life-changing documentary. It's only do it. Hour and ten minutes on. Netflix filmed in ninety one. Ninety two and the ball seen in Harlem great documentary. You'll cry you'll laugh. Yeah it's stunning off while no it's the same queen documentary. Yes watched it with Crystal Asia. I died a thousand. It's also on Netflix. Nine hundred sixty seven Miskelly USA. I'm my favorite part is. They're all in the motel six pack doing their group choreography. All JUST CHAIN SMOKING. Fucking misty's misty one twenty s well. Darling. I think you should go and then win the fight at the end. Maybe I should have been up that if you haven't seen queen documentary about and it's about the pageant and say gay USA and it's so good. I honestly I'm like we're doing the same shit like when the one queen was like. I need my spirit gone. I know I find it. Go to the store now so here. I did see another documentary recently. It's called wig about wigs stock in it and a whole bunch of people and I thought how by not seen this it was on HBO. But I don't think I was so good. It was so good and I learned a lot. I really what could you learn Jenny? I'm on this spot. Well I didn't know. There was a wig stock and I didn't realize that they brought it back so face. Thank you on the spot right now. The gauge occasion of I think it's more like the history. I learned a lot of history stuff about where things started. Who Started. What and why things are done this way and that way and you don't want me to sit here and explain it all. We have another. We have a podcast to exit line. What did you think of? Let's see what happened. It was so the main challenge was added your rap and then choreographing cells. Yes which is fucking shady. You know in the episode. It's hiding in closet and widow von. Do who are set to choreograph. Are they get picked from the team? Right there wasn't. I didn't think there was a whole lot of drama with that. There wasn't it was more like widow. Just getting frustrated. Heidi spitting through a front teeth. A lot somebody kept trying to interject someone who didn't want to have how responsible now. I can't remember who it was. It was Britta Britta poking and then the other girls were just like. Oh yeah and then just like. Hey if you ask these people to do it let them just do it exactly. I feel that way to ready to Nicki Menaj as a judge one of my favorite judges ever and I love that she straight up looked at Heidi and was like I hate hate hate. Hate hate your hair and makeup today. Rupe hates her name. I often yeah usually what I think hiding closet will be on season six with a new name. Oh six of all stars I I just I just feel like I just feel like what a great branding opportunity that from the get go they have just like all been like everybody's Kate. Your name hate your name. Hey Yeah and then all the minder name I totally see. I think she's going to be an all stars regardless. I don't really see her winning either. I think it's cute. Heidi strike me. Okay so they had to do the performance and I gotta say when they did the rap performance. They were all really. It's not not really not really weak in the whole thing and they were funny. Yeah like great dancing. It was the combination was just it was timing. It was stunning. It was a great episode. So runway looks dark runway. So as long markle on the runway and misprinted fields. It came out in the silver that silver body suit. Do you remember. No I need to pull up. It's going to Sam trying to such an idiot. I'm over here tapping my screen thinking like this and it's not. Oh God oh she had the like what it was. She had that hairpiece that went back and it was all silver disco e to me. It wasn't there peplum skirt. Yes woodlake peplum me chair I what did you think? A crystal Meth AIDS devil. Look it was very reminiscent to me about puff. Girls him the villain him. Yeah little bit of that. I what did you think Marriott? It was fine. I just thought it was a little predictable. Weird girl and I'm GonNa come out as the devil. I've always a little bit too textbook. You know what I just like. Oh I'm the weird girl. I'm I'm the Kooky Spooky girl and I'm GonNa come out as the devil. Well executed. I also I think just from working the nightclub scene and stuff. I'm just like if I see one more homosexual address. Angel or Devil Halloween. I'M GONNA eat. That is Halloween. Is The GO-TO last minute? Like Oh my God. I'm going to be a Damn Laraine Jong because I'm a girl or a ban by all they wear is like us know. How much is the cover? I get no. I know Johnny. No I know Johnny was Halloween. Bit Anybody. I know. I know okay job. No they wear Red Speedo extrap- not even know strap. Yeah and then they put horns. On cupid in the Boeing through my heart. I'm wounded. Oh yeah while. You're studying Heyhoe Second Down Vodka Soda at one forty five in the morning on riches. Trying to figure out WHO's KNOB YOU'RE GONNA slob on. Don't talk about she's not. I'm not gonNA maybe a little okay G. G. goods runway with the helmet again. The black helmet the p the sorry green like she was at Green Mary. National I e door and that was the lovely shade of an IRIDESCENT. Abe like Parrado Pastel. It was it was like a pantsuit with with boats and helmet. Oh Yeah it was. I think if she thinks she won all the looks I really I mean I feel like all of the fashion auto hundred percents. All of hers were my absolute favorite. Heidi and closet her sparkling No WIG was bad. It was just a silver gown and a silver mop on the head and a silver earrings. It was just a yeah. I love her though. I haven't heard like number one fan. Okay Jackie Cox. We didn't talk about any of her. Looks exactly I like the for spring? Yeah but they're all kinds of she's given us three like sixty silhouette. I love that. I love that gene hand. I do too far. Eat Do that for spring fall. And you're why not well who set so apparently marry him but I was GonNa say maybe if she's going to do like again helmet theme to the helmet if she keeps going with it. Maybe then we're all right. Ads also gave you helmet biker helmet now. I know I mean so. She took it. But Jackie was all just very kind of like. I liked everything that sixties. I love their spring. One was my face. Yes okay next one you guys wooded you think Nikki doll for her final final runway of body would. Would you not like yes was really cool? It looks heavy done in yeah. It looked like a winner. It was Really County. It was very like almost kind of the committee will night like a suicide bomber type type. Okay I remember there. Scrolling yet loved it. I love anybody you know. I love a bit. She wears a platinum white or silver hair. You know I love it. I know all of her looks. I really did okay. Last one was widow. Fondue hers was forgettable for me It was that silver with the pink piping. Oh it was like I know. She's a big bitch but oh my God. She looked like a California King Mattress. Walking DOWN THE WAY. I was like nothing for her and and it just I don't. I'm not really into that. Whole like the xenon space. What we thought the future is going to be thing. I just think it's unless you're doing a specific number for it. I just don't think it's really team. I don't think ever translates into fashion for me on. Who the winner of this episode. Yes right so then okay. So the runway looks. Everybody got really good. Critiques from the judges except for Artie of I thought Nicki Menaj was a great great. Judge gave her a lot of airtime notice that she had good things to say that it was clever and funny and she was entertaining. You could tell. She listened to what they were saying like gave specific feedback with judges. Don't ever do right right. I I liked her. I wish they would have her back on. Can you imagine the episode two girls when they find out? Oh my God who is a special judge last week Nikki massage. Talk like they're like we we guy and the girl from West where swirled. What's her name exactly always know she was great being so the episode ended with nobody getting kicked off. They had a battle out g good and widow von do what did you guys think of this lip sync. I will started go. I haven't seen people on the Internet comparing it to an all-time great lip sync such as the Elissa Tatyana from season all-star season two and I will say it was a good thing but it was not no level of all stars Tatiana. No it's not that level of Mariam is that people were starving for great great season opener for Rupa's drag race which we haven't had for. How many seasons now like I think. Because they're all great. Yes they're all great but this particular season premiere which just really great. Allie was ru Paul's drag race at its finest setup. I maybe that's why people were like. Oh my God this is the best thing. I don't get me wrong. It would lip sing. Digi good and widow did great but like how different they were. The things that we're doing we're so different that I was trying to pick one. And I'm like no and saving Nicki Minaj felt the same way. Just like shoot kept. You kept seeing her. Do like you know looking at both of them. I was very prepared for gee-gee to not do anything interesting because I just felt like we hadn't seen we've seen some stuff but was really creative unfunny and took it into different direction. So she kind of set us up to because she was like. I'm not comedy I mostly looks. And then she's like Bam I'm funny. Yeah yeah I thought it was great. Yeah I really did. I thought it was great. I kind of knew how. Gd Good performed. I I've seen her work before and I thought it was great. I thought she could have kept her shoes on. But I can't do that with my leg shoes on. Whatever y'all have a girl know I mean I just thought all around a plus the world of NBA? Yes and the casting firm and everyone i. That's good just keep up. The good work work casting firm guy and we'll get into that when we come back from this break we're going to get into the second part of the pre mirror that premiered Friday. All of the Sherry. Piedras how you know. 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That pie is a pyeongchang expired. If I'm ever on repulse drag racing Sherry rupaul. Can I have your cell phone number? I have loudly acting pod. Fargo would like. Oh I'm making our time like the grand a little bit like James Mason to. The grandma can't cancel on that again. That is you have to share. Don't anyone else it's MIRA's we heard it. Oh my God that is two favorite is I wanted to go first. Jan Jan Jan Jan. She's I like her now. You know about her name right yes I think she started to someone said believed it out so her drag name is Jan sport like the eighties. Athletic wear so. That's why she came in in a baseball outfit and thing is a baseball tea by holding it. But I'm assuming that they were going to try to get the copyrights for her and then when she got there it was all planned out and then they couldn't and sport makes backpack also the same back for filter filter neighbor day. It's just bread. I wondered came in and said Y'all thirsty and chugged the water. Yep Yep I got that part. So why didn't they do that? For trixie Mattel I could because trixie with Mattel is different than the actual brand name where it's great Becomes a problem in prints whenever they print anything. Then shame was tell you. I got that the stretch details SCIPIO. That's a great. That's a great king name. If somebody wanted to do like a Ken doll would be a great drag character like a dumb as rocks like Kendall as your character. Okay there you go. You heard it here on. Who invited her? Tell us why these two I'm I'm a lawyer and off the top okay. So the Ernie intiatives for episode to the luck. Few is your favorite or the second second round of this. It was just last nine. I can do this. We watched it today. Yeah and I thought well just because we talked about it and I just remember transport was cute. I would have been so much better. If we could get the full Jan sport fantasy of everyone knowing that her name is Chancey but I thought it was. I was like okay. She went a little company for day. One what did you think of eight insane? I was just going to say I. I think that was my favorite look with the black. It was just so different and then the little the the I liked the way. He doesn't make this. It was so like I sorry. It reminded me of like. I'm I'm making an face like Humpty dumpty it reminded marsupial attacked you fucking Bitch Mariam's like Tony Never again and again. I'm available the way that they're maybe think of some kind of scary fairy tale book that I saw when I was a kid where the pictures were not cute. They were like tennis query. And that's what it was like a scary Humpty dumpty face or something like a scary like Oliver like all of her family are normal fairies and then she walked up. I just thought it was different and it was cool. Yeah I don't know if I'll stick with that but for the first look I was like that's cool. What did you think Dalia Sin I? I'm sorry but couldn't get behind or high run over behind our next to it. No you can't. You cannot do a lift share with me. No Idea I didn't enjoy your show naming eleven a period when she got on the Red Sea word on the runway wasn't Brady's I'd just a huge fan so when I heard that she was from the House I was like work and then I was like ooh that beard stubble though year. She's gorgeous like there as man and she's gorgeous in drag I think when she paints correctly she was not painted correct. I was going to be honest. I kind of felt like she came off very insecure. And and scared do you. I mean hundred. I think the VIBE and I I kind of went to. Oh maybe it will get easier for you like she was just overwhelmed and so she was like you know why she came off too cocky and like. Oh yes totally. Just doing it. The other side where salvage later in the episode said. She's sexy but she's forcing Michelle. The same person well before I think I think a lot of the girls that aren't that are more look queens rather than girls like myself. Who are actually showgirls? Cost you run. Egypt Gas is structured. It's this it's that they get into that environment of the TV show in like the biggest drag of your life. But if you're just a look queen and you're like hi. I'm coming up here dancing to this. Which is fine. Yeah I think you get thrown into that thinking like I'm the prettiest. Everyone thinks I'm Gordon and you're like oh. Wow this is a damn show. That never happens to you okay. I know I have to work. You know what I mean. Nobody here the prettiest and they don't realize they're surrounded by dozens of cameramen and catering people numbers not listening. I'm joined the sound of my own. Fucking voice now so okay. Jada essence hall. What did you think I mean I kind of don't remember? That's what I think like like I disagree men that she is a buck haw men. I'm kind of with Janney. I'm like she's okay. Maybe later. Yeah things is done and I've seen so many queens that are like that I guess on this show was bored of Queen like and when I meet them like did too good in the channel. And that's what I say so later on it did get better. I think I think because I was raised by when I very first started. Drag was raised by like southern pageant. Girls that I have a thing for. Just that cool off jewelled cinched figured dripping and like. I just have a thing for like a drag because I'm clown that when I see like women drag on like that's not what I do and I'm like you bet a bitch conc- I'm opposite. I'd rather have the clown ear the same and I think that that's why we love you so it wasn't that word. Obviously it was beautiful and there is a lot put into it. It was just I think. Just the whole thing and like the the coming out and saying something was just like okay pretty next. Where did he? I like that more than the young. Look I like that more than just like the heart and the those kind of Queens I just I'm pageant girl okay. Rock Gums Kura. What did you think I li- of loving her? I never thought she is going to annoy the fuck. Outta me absolutely not totally different from what I thought. Oh Queens the anime. I love her coming in the room and just rubbing herself all over the all over this. Oh I love that. He's built like a little tie. Put Him on my face of Drag Uni rock ally. He's really is me. I don't really remember her. Her intrinsic was like fine. I remember the white bodysuit with shoulders. Berry Draghi Yeah my my only critique is the makeup looks like Trixie Mattel to me like a little reminiscent data style now. She takes it like all the way down to her nose. Though she's like a power girl. Yeah I I think. With the fine. Tuning of touring and stuff. She's GONNA add a couple more elements that are going to separate her a little bit from. Yeah they Kimchi and the Trixie Matab. Kimchi reverend getting thrown. She's really surprised me I I. I'm rooting for from episode. For sure I thought what you thought at first and then I just kept looking at Michael. It is different and maybe she's going to change it. I I also I like her. I like her right now. I hope she makes it far enough that they push her to do like a Glam. Look I would be really interested how she turns such a distinct face. Well she'll be so pretty glamour. She'll be real good. The last one Cherry Pie. Ooh This found out it was rhubarb. Likes Rhubarb talking about big buyer band? I Love Cherry Pies so her. We just learned everybody When when she came out in their first dress I loved it that outfit. Yes Oh good evening artless of should we talk objectively about her as if it didn't happen. I and critique her I think so yeah. Let's do that and then we'll bring up the drama if anybody hasn't heard of what happened with Michelle Esteban entrance that look Sherry pies. Looks whoever her seamstresses York City if you go through her instagram page. Look after look at her Roger Rabbit. Have you seen that credible her looks? He'll be it in her instagram. I really really WANNA become a fan what I don't like I love camping. I don't like that. There's any color in her face. It's just brown white and black. What it reminds me of is devine's makeup like very much like faces and I'm like Whoa I keep seeing divine. I love that I just need a little bit of blush in there. There's no tone. There's no depth. There's no it's just it's just brown. White blood tone in so gentle. Stay low total okay. So there are. Many challenge was the same. It was the passion Spring and fall. So who are your looks? Who did you like? Couldn't you didn't like all of that. Good stuff I have to say. That's the point in which I fell asleep and so now I have to go out of. I was so exhausted last night. You guys go. I will say in comparison to season one. They dropped the ball. I objectively didn't like either one of Sherry pies. I thought they were both awful. I agree I didn't like the padding the black it was like it didn't I didn't like the mother of the bride cut of the black. I didn't like the pilgrim hat. I didn't like the Double Chin into the I. Listen I do but it wasn't proportionate. My biggest thing was Joe. Johns all look really construction like Lizard alone could have been the best look of the entire episode if she would not have worn those thigh high black boots because it completely covered up the texture at the bottom of the dress and it swallowed her up. And you see anything. So the bottom of the dress it was it was black tail. No it was green boots. I thought it completely. It just didn't give her any kind of shape. Well wrong I I agree with you. Mariam. No I short boot even would have been. I thought the now I WANNA lack made. It's fucking sexy. Sling back would have taken it to this poison. Ivy seductress. Look and like what? Have you long gated her? I felt I look. I feel like it made her look shorter because any of her skin. Okay and that's my final. Say on that. Judge Malik O. J. Go the wiggle your. Let me wiggle your cord. Bake all right. Okay flared up soccer sacre. Would you think I like that? She did her own anime on the first look painted herself. I thought it was very cute. The second one again. I don't remember the second one. It was fine. I don't really remember it either but I remember thinking it was fine. It's you have watched this. But that's what this runway really just thinking about is episode one runway. Yeah me too. Who has to his. Okay she had that Marie Antoinette the very first thing and then her fall. I don't really. I don't really remember spring. I remember her fall. Was like this like lavender gray suit type of thing. Oh like she. When she walked into the store like Eric said and point Gimme all not nordstroms and said I want to buy it all? Yeah very that I thought what you do. There's one more that just popped into my head now Jan. No Oh dally all yes okay. The spring count it was odor neon blue with orange hair. I would have chosen a different airing you know. I feel about color combos. I thought it was great. Her fall was why it was so ugly. She looks like a black poodle. That just got out of surgery like the poodle got ripped. It looked like they took a poodle black poodle and put it in a paper shredder. And we're like Oh shit we fucked up and then tried to put it back together but it didn't work with one little line of. I thought it was weird and so ugly guy said they're mad so their their challenge was somewhat of the first but they had to do a Fossey number me on I got back in. Said he's bossy number and they were like what's I so I must have been falling asleep. I was falling saving waking up and it kept trying to start over and do remember that and I got pissed at my come on kids. You need to know Bob Fosse cut. Some Fossey is at the bare from the muppets. Yeah I walk. I walk walk but what I loved was in in a the interviews. They had Dalia Sin and the and she's like. I left awesome producer. O- film like what would be. Which one do you like a faucet? She couldn't name one. Come on that point go okay. Yeah every time I hear you do. Fosse's much Graham Graham. I love the birdcage. Oh my God I love us. It was great. I was happy with this. So Jan and Cherry Pie. We're the ones that kind of they kind of. Put It on them. Oh and rock to do the choreography for the challenge off Falah Parts J. Terrible oh no Jada just wouldn't shut up. Yeah she's a whiner yeah. This is too hard. Nobody's listening to me. Nobody's respecting my opinion. Nobody has to just do it. Stopped talking how shady of the producers to make them choreograph their own. I loved it though so you could do it could do. It doesn't mean I want to well it does kind of step up. It does kind of. It's almost like on survivor. You say I'll be the one that calls the shit or whatever you're like you're the one that's on the chopping block four the the actual challenge when they did the number who stood out for you with the lyrics the dance and all of that. Eric Mariam since Jenny Pastel I-love-you rock soccer. I made a joke and I'm not even a fire person. Not really my favorite and they hated it but I thought it was funny. Yeah Wrong Cherry. Pies was great. I thought that Jan Jan was amazing. Zan's was good. I thought except for you could see his tiny well yeah you his padding and the Tuck is all wrong. He has potential yeah. I don't think I don't think he's ready yet. He's really young. Yeah yeah they shouldn't really be teaching you how to tack on season twelve of drag race. But I will say that he is from a little town and doesn't really do drag at the least attention and he's on the fucking Chelsea. You can't Goddamn thing brain. I enjoyed it. I enjoyed his performance. I've got a real sense of what he dot. The lyrics are great. Yeah yeah those are the standouts so the judges were only really critical of Dalia. Sin As they should be pretty. Well what did you think of the tool runway man? I couldn't look at it because I couldn't take my eyes. I forgot I know I could see. What's your fucking beard. You fucking Queen. You have to know how to make. That's all you have. What Robbie actually love? Jade is yellow dress in the tool. So we're talking to Dolly ascend. The Red Not all black people look the same Rob Rob. No I was just saying think I liked them one. Oh the yellow and again okay. Great I liked the toy. Thought it was really good. I thought everybody look pretty. Cherry pies was stupid. It looked like detoxing jellyfish dress. Yes stupid and Janet ords was the only one who sorry Jan Jan. I heard all but it was creative. I love that I'm bringing the T. O. L. to the T. CLEVER. I like Iraq. I thought she went over the top bands. Oh insane I love nine hundred yards tool for real. Yes very excited and they wanna get crazy about it but I was was like. Here's the thing if arena war that you actually do know what. It reminded me the season Finale Sarah Jessica Parker in sex in the city where she falls with all the tool and he goes under the layers. Fashion I love de I thought it was great. So the top two. Because they didn't they didn't knock anybody off this week again. But the top two did not on the episode only had ways Jada and Sherry Pie harassing for a cash cash. Typify thousand how was that? They both did good in their own way with there was a lot of Mariam. And Sheri's Yeah I Mitch. Step off my fucking lip sync. She did it very my favorite part of Sherry pies though was when she when she call your girlfriend and she did the rotary phone back over to the judges also hysterical. The reasons and she's writing a paper. I love that is very like my style yes so I have to commend that. Jada one that the cash tip in all of them were safe. Jada had the best runway to La. I love and she ripped off the long shorten black curly yellow sing. Yes okay. Her color wig to that so good. Yeah I liked. I liked by China but all in all the way. The episode ended was the Queen's from episode to walk in the workroom and they see the queen's from episode one and they're like squaring down looking at it the next thing they're gonna go hug that's how they always do but all in all I think episode one of season twelve was incredible new. It was good. We're still and I liked the I love that they split it like that. I thought it was fun and different. And I I will quote Rupaul from one of my favorite quotes of his and I would describe episode to as and I'm not sure I'm not sure if episode one was so damn good that we thought it was mad or it was truly matt or do you think it was because of the Sherry Pie drama. That's came out this week. That was better than the show building. This time. The desert was better than the main courses. Okay Miss Mariam. T- Phyllis on the job because they know your reading up on it with Ms Sherry by what happened. I love the approach thank you. I thought you might sing so so for those of you don't know a Cherry Pie. Had allegations against her for being a sexual Predator allegedly allegedly so she posed in what she did was. She met her no. It's not supposedly. She she admitted to it. Publicly on esquire. Thank you so. She was friends with this person in real life. So as a boy posed as Alison Mossy. This made up casting directors assistant and so it was feeding him stuff in person while carrying on as Alison Mossy via e mails and things like that overtime sent him money. So the thing the part was fresh new show called bulk where a guy bulked up and got bigger and bigger and bigger throughout the show so sherry was encouraging person to work out a way to see foot. Yes also that sounds like a great show. I WANNA watch point. All she has only you should do with their careers right a Goddamn play about it. So she was apparently sending this guy money to buy steroids and encouraging them to use steroids and also sending him money in lieu of like in the in between time before getting the actual job and was talking about like all travel arrangements. How everything would work. And apparently eight hundred videos were taken one person how this one guy and she came forward so this happened last year so obviously when Alison Mossy went silent while they were filming drag race he got super suspicious confronted him and and got lawyers involved in December and NBC posted that. Wow Oh she's apparently in therapy right now. I read her apology. That she's center that too and I. It's it's really sad I it's sad. She's not well that's really what and I'm I'm not. I'm not saying it's okay. Because whole gap fishing thing is disgusting and I can't stand that that happens but but at the same time anybody doing that. Kind of stuff is not well and I for the Submitting the videos just like do your homework but but I can totally see people getting caught up and stuff and I. I feel so like at the same time. It sounds like I'm saying you know she's not well in that sad to have something like that happened to you. You just feel like how will I ever trust anybody again. We're how am I going to get there? Just got to be more like just more aware. I know it's never know you never know I'm telling you. And when and when you sit there and you say okay well yes. This was done by somebody who's quite mentally ill and so to have to look out for someone who looks and talks like the rest of anybody else you know but have to try to read beyond that. It's it's tough I can. I can understand and she had such a strong of episode this week to yeah clearly from the get go whenever you're top contenders for shoe. Vh One released a disclaimer. Saying that Sherry Pie has been disqualified and will not be in the final and the beginning of the episode and at the end of the road to both places so they're going to air the season as everybody else. The other Queens so I my feeling is she is definitely probably in the top four three maybe alleged which is for me. I'm thinking like how is she going to appear on the show and is that going to change anybody's viewpoints of her over the next few weeks of the show I have to say. I'm sorry. I'm just jumping right but I I read the disclaimer. Then I started googling then I look to see what Mariam had decided. I just wanted to see I knew she would know in so I was seeing if there was a reaction it was just a motive con-going. Yeah Wow of course you're just like here's some information but I was gonna say I loved her. Everything she was doing till till this lease sleep woke up and look what happened. I mean I loved her look I thought she was funny talking in the little bit I was like Oh shit crazy and I'm feel bad you know and I I have to say I probably would have been team a chance to pass. They very very interesting problem to deal with the season to figure out how this plays out and how she does on the show and how they deal with it and how they yeah. I I'm I'm in marketing and I do not envy their jobs right now because it was interesting on on social media especially twitter people were really harsh sherry by like viciously mean where it's like okay. This person obviously has a problem yet. They're going to get help. You don't need to wish them death or harm now or any of this other. You know what I mean. The punishment deserved their disqualified from the show. You know really also be some legal action is yeah but I mean to wish harm on the high just. I don't think that's ever okay. But I get when people especially if they were victims of something similar. I I but but that being said anything about people going Blah Blah Blah on social media pisses me shut your face. I mean sometimes you might post something. Even someone has a comment. But the trolling shit is ridiculous. On all waste of your time all the time to do something better. Well also. This person admitted it. So that's a big step there and clearly is now getting help so like let's let's let that person get there to help because I'm thinking okay. She's she's I'm going to get book. She's going to have a hard time in her career is over. So it's like okay. She knows that she's dealing with that letter. Deal with it let it have. It doesn't need to be in that light. I agree and I think we need. We sucks for the victim and for her the both sides there so I think the victims are absolutely if that had I would want to say you know fuck that person I get it that. They're not well also they really messed with me and my psyche but at the same time anybody who is just glomming on fuck off. Yeah honestly you heard it here. First Buck off. Let's see whiskas says fuck one hundred percent agree with? I do have to say it's going to be a very interesting season bad for the other girls. Because this put a damper on special day for all of those girls episode to and yet and look what happened well that was a very long episodes. I like we haven't he died. We haven't done a whole Rupaul. Recap so that was perfect and thank you Jenny for joining nine me when you come on. I love coming on. I'll be here all the time. And how do people get tickets? Ob playhouse in what's playing right. Now thank you. We are opening into the woods on March Thirteenth. And it is. Ob playhouse DOT COM for tickets. You can find us on facebook and Instagram as well and a right after into the woods. We're going into spam a lot. So that's a really good stuff you guys. 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Episode 219: RuPauls Drag Race S12  Viva Drag Vegas

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Episode 219: RuPauls Drag Race S12 Viva Drag Vegas

"Mary I love that my mom as she looked in the mirror lipstick and I wish to was mom one day after school. She caught me wearing her dress. Be All over. Her knee said to pray and confess jeep inside. I still aware student was number two shaft. Well Surprise Mary. We have a final three. Yeah ex do this week after the Viva Drag Vegas episode. This Cup of the week comes from the challenge and you know normally on all right Mary. We pick a clip of the week. That is usually dialogue. It's talking about Perhaps the person that went home or some crazy fight that went on and what I like about this clip of the week is it's the best part of the episode in my opinion. It's the strongest song and also I think where all five of them performed over edited to be performing the best and I think that to me encapsulates. This episode is all of them. Did really well in this challenge. And it's kind of like I know that like this is the best top five ever. Ah but regardless of that like this is the first time I think it. Correct me if I'm wrong. The first time in all of the the seasons where the top four top five. No one was given kind of a falter edit That is a good question it. It's probably the first time in a while where I felt like yeah. Everyone's pretty much on par. I mean I think a similar question I had is. Have we ever seen a more blatant need even like being discussed among the judges having to go by track record versus the performance in the final challenge? You know right And I feel like I definitely agree with that. I think watching all five of them. You know there's five people onstage watching all four valid members of the cast on stage. Yeah they're all bringing something really special and unique and they're all like totally nailing it and bringing. I've heard other people say this but it's like these queens are like stars level good lake. It's just I mean and these challenge was fucking hard. I mean very oh my God is in two days. Yeah so it's like I think considering I mean when you think about season three and how hard season three was the fact that the last three Queen's got to the end of that season an all three of them had three wins. It's like obviously Rajawali but all three of them are real troopers. I kind of feel the same way here. It's like this was a really hard challenge and for all of them to nail it like this. You know I mean It brings up the question if I don't know if it's it goes all the way back to casting but are the people that are excelling in the competition or at least get to this type of challenge. Do they make sure that the people that are chosen for it can do all of this stuff. I mean you have to be able to dance. You have to be able to sing somewhat. You have to be able to wrap right there it. It seems like too perfect. That all of these queens can do this right. Yeah well you know and I think in terms of the singing I would have to imagine some more than others. Auto tune problem was utilized like it seems to me like Jackie's and maybe G. G are more like natural singers whereas maybe Jada singer crystal but I think in terms of being performers. I mean it's funny. I think one of our matriarchs are married. Mls kind of about how less challenges they've had like these musical numbers kind of being the like the final challenge. And I feel like that makes sense to me if you think back to. Early seasons where the final challenge was a music video. Well that's a little bit outdated a thing now in terms of what you're going to do next in your career. People are doing drag race music as much anymore versus doing a live show in Vegas. You know what it means like. It's funny how this challenge and essential at this casting and like this show is kind of testing your ability to be eventually on drag race live. You know where to be that kind of performer. 'cause that's kind of a one woman. Show Yeah Yeah. It's almost like that's the the model that you don't have to follow but here's a model that drag race offers for you post show career wise. You know right. Yeah and to be a rude girl. You need to have something of these skills. Because obviously this is a brand of drag that rupaul. Is You know putting out to the world. It's certainly not the only brand right so obviously there are drag shows where it's just comedy or drag shows where it's just lip synching or drag shows where it's just Dancing and for this. It's a very specific type of performance and shore. It's eventually to set them up for those big stores for the the big shows to represent the show in some way so that totally make sense especially because this whole episode was just a commercial for their drag race in Vegas. That's why no like I couldn't help but have like a really dark ironic laugh when they were like when it became clear that this was a promotion for the drag race live that was currently wowing audiences and I was like Oh man. You can't catch break season twelve. I get Sherry Pie. Then you get covert then you try to promote your live show. And we're on lockdown. It's yeah it's been rough and you know it's an that brings me to another point before we talk about this clip of the week again. But season twelve queens. A really been handed a short end of the stick despite this amazing final challenge right and despite amazing things that have been going on this season at. They aren't being able. They're able to capitalize it really at all because drag was canceled. All of their gigs were cancelled. It's it's it kind of makes me sorry I'll just I'll the cats out of the bag. It kind of makes me think that the finale they're gonNA crown three winners and they're going to give a ten thousand dollar bonus to all the queen's just for fucking hanging in there I mean I'd be shocked. Imagine can you? When there was a tie on all stars bore the gays had their own their own. You know personal meltdown. Big as the collective capital t capital G. Gays Imagine. It was a three way tie. I mean I'm not mad at the idea because I'm a Koumba Bitch at heart but I oh my God. Can you imagine if this season? We've got three winners like surprise I it would be what is what is. What's that had? She ended up patch totally. I just feel like why not do it again. You bitches. I know it's like I. I mean twenty twenty all better off you know. All bets are off. Well I WANNA talk about this clip. Just a little bit more in detail so first of all it starts off and it's kind of zooming in on his pie and but if you look in the background. I don't know why this tickles be so much. Maybe because it's a feather but you see you see Jada doing this. Little feather shake Just kind of as a floor. Almost as if it's like this little tambourine an got it. Just tickles me. So much that little detail and if you look in the background while the other girls are lip synching if you look in the background of the other coins. Aren't they're all doing this? You know looking in the mirror You know I'm in I'm in the half light acting which I also really appreciated. It was well directed in that sense the whole thing was this montage that I thought was really well put together but so there's the line that comes very early on. I learned never to let it show and it just reminded me of let it go right to keep everything inside It's kind of like this is the let it go of drag race in a way Yeah well you know. It's interesting like if we think of this as like Las Vegas Review songs like you know I don't normally think about Las Vegas show is like a show having like a real like message you know man. I know civilians out there trying to like you know. Take a Kayak I. What was the one time she said? This song is dedicated to all of the parents and the children so basically everyone so you know that she's doing her best to break meaning and depth but like this is like if this is happening every night at the Flamingo or whatever like these are some pretty deep lyrics for the Flamingo you know. Oh completely you know what? I did like Because I just want to put put credit where credit's to I mean. The song is written really well. It's a it's a great melody it calls too. I got two things from it. I got burlesque. You know that you never saw burlesque did you. I just know wagon wheel out to see. Okay okay well that's what you should know But there's a song called I am a good girl. I am a good girl right. But the melody is the same. As the opening verse. About Bah Bah Bah and then it stops right I also got its ray on Prom. Ni- from Greece. And I'm like okay. That's also very route so it makes sense. That Leland would write some linen stitch. I call them because I don't know if it was justly lind or it's also Leland Linen Jeff but whoever wrote it it's a nice call back to that because it's something it's of that world right that would make sense absolutely there'd be some kind of reference. Yeah Yeah and so I just feel like the song is just representing the lyrics especially very deep this queer journey right how we look in the mirror at ourselves where people and we're taught to hate ourselves but through this other lands that we put on through drag. We learned to feel good. Yeah and I think from just like You know performance standpoint. It's it's kind of ironic that Jackie was quote unquote in the bottom and went home. Because I think she had the most. Kinda like she the best. The best supporting actress moment of the Mormons thoat that one solo. I mean she Jackie impact a ball. She was great. It was I mean all of them were were really strong. I don't not say like oh she should I mean you. There's a case for almost any of them to win this challenge but I mean that kind of like I don't WanNa use the word Gravitas. But that kind of like good acting. You don't really see very often in one of these challenges. Yeah I mean just with the thing off the shoulder. And she's just kind of in her negligee write it and then the hair it was all it all fit that world of of Greece where sandy is singing hopelessly devoted to you into right all had that same kind of feeling and Jackie I think epitomized it because she it's true what the judges were saying? She was actually feeling this not only when she was singing but when she was lip synching and I thought that was. It really helped. Make this part of this challenge. Stand out I want to bring up another lyric. That Jada starts. She says put conceal her on my broken heart for this queer fascination and you know if you can get over the auto tune God bless you Jada Sure got you know. It's not your t right. Yeah why and she tells US upfront. She's like know I don't sing. You know I don't sing. We're going to sing. And that's you know that's the that's what's great about her. She could do it anyway. Yeah Yeah and they made her sound great which I also really appreciate it. And they didn't like pull Roxie Andrews here God you know what I mean but but what does that mean to you. Conceal her on my obviously conceal on my broken heart for this queer fascination. I mean I I don't know I mean I guess I could could dissect it all day. I guess what whose fascination is poetry one zero one in college again but she talking about like you know drag Queens Kinda of painting themselves painting over the broken heart and then. Kind of performing for the fascinated queers. Is that what she's trying to say? Or Leland trying to say that feels a little dark for a song like this. If I feel like the the pun here is queer right like it in terms of society. It's a queer fascination it's a weird right it's off but queer fascination meaning. I'm fascinated by the things that are queer here And I'm putting conceal on my broken heart right obviously. That's a play on this makeup thing but I'm covering up my scars before Ju just so that I can have this fantasy. Yeah I mean that's kind of I feel like I feel like it's one of those things where the song is meant to make you feel like the magic of drag. But it's like you're kind of scratching a neat the makeup and it's like well. Here's like talking about scars and covering things up to it's like it's a it's not a happy ending it's like A. It's not a happy song. It's kind of like well the more you think about it the more. It's kind of a sad song. Yeah no I think. That's also that's also Kinda why I like it because of the metaphor. Oh my God talking about metaphors and all right. Mary shut up. Johnny the no like the idea of the mirror and looking at yourself rather than drag queens getting ready in a mirror but more. I'm looking in the mirror at myself. What can I find? How can I make it so that I love myself and by putting on drag? I'm revealing a part of myself that I love so when I look in the Mirror I see what I love right. That brings up the line. The most powerful thing you can do is become the image of your imagination. It's like what do you see in your head that is most powerful and then you create that in front of you. Yeah Yeah I mean I think. That's I think that's the idea Don't disagree with you. No no no I hear you. I'm going there married are you are you are. You are marrying out on its. I am not here to stop that or stifled that we are all here for discourse and diatribes and diatribes a but I do want to end. Maybe this kind of fascination with the song with the last shot of all five of them in that. Standing Mirror. I don't think we've seen something or C. Show before I knew I was almost campy place totally I mean. Of course it is. Yeah when you when you break down. It's like well here. Are these five drag Queens in like you know nightgown drag in their in their nineties and Teddy's old lady look like singing into like a classic mom. Mir like that late wooden round free mirror like who's older sister in one thousand nine hundred seven didn't have that mirror you know. I bought it on Amazon because it was cheap and I don't have any mirrors in my apartment that kind of mirror. Yeah that kind of here because cheap cheap did remind you of your older sisters in the early nineties and like like Nancy's mirror. Oh Kat it's just it's cruel that my sister's name is Nancy. She was like an act. One gun before you showed up and of course the middle sister is Jill jail. I know I know Shir Jill family. Yeah Oh Nancy so so yeah so again. Berries this clip it kind of a pity for me like Oh right. There's still magic in the show through. I mean this season. I feel like the curtain really came up because of the editing because of everything that was happening and I think even more so next week and the week after There's kind of like a keep going back to this but you know how Jane was going to name her documentary about Valerie. Cherish the assassination of our cherished she. I feel like the assassination of season. Twelve is the name of the documentary about this season postseason. Oh that would be so fascinating to see kind of lake moving parts kind of style documentary yelling. Let's see what was going on underneath the surface. Oh my right eye going to Maine and quitting social media Jerry. I The news coming out all the Queen's kind of having to react to it I want an. Hey I I WANNA sit down conversation with Michelle visage. Talking about the day. She found out the news about Sherry and not a muckraking way. I just WanNa know how we all saw one side of this cookie season and so much happened underneath the surface. And Yeah I wanNA know like what it looked like what it felt like. You know I mean 'cause I imagine like I think about the whole Sherry thing not to focus on her so much what are you GonNa do? There's only five of them. It'd be like I think about the day that it was like. Oh my God we have to tell Roo Michelle and like sitting down and saying okay so we need to talk to you about Sherry Pie or whatever. The conversation was and it's like I just hear these people who like you have to imagine their minds like what the fuck. This person's episode is coming out tomorrow. I spent a whole season praising this queen and now you're telling me that their garbage can like I just think it's a fascinating story. It's a fascinating story especially for a show that is like at the peak at its at its total peak. It's never been bigger. You know like especially with pandemic everybody's at home watching the and then the pandemic and then dragon gets canceled on all the GEEKS get cancelled up. Oh my God I just WanNa yeah all I want like the honestly take off the. It's like it's like a sorry another comeback records. It's like when the cameras are our regular cameras. When vow leaves the EMMYS that part of the season twelve story? Yeah really do and maybe we will get it for another two three four years when I dunno crystal and podcast but I you know what I mean a race chasers but you know. I don't know I was just thinking what they could do is kind of like if it wasn't like a film documentary like one of those six part series limited series documentary. Our PODCAST DOCUMENTARIES. Like serial killer serial. Except when I'm longer but like you know Dirtyjohn or whatever and just having that you know that I don't know eight hour breakdown of how the season played out interviews with the Queen's audio clips only God I mean I mean it's just such a fascinating story not for muckraking right because and I just feel like what would be value that's wrench. Those children are speaking. They're not French. They're American but I just feel like the what would come out of. It would be the the world of television the world of Reality Television and also more importantly how important those gigs are for these. Queens. Post drag raise Right like how. It's just like a huge thing that's lost on the show now rate because it really like. If this were to be a documentary it would be. It's really about. It's not about the filming of season twelve. It's about the post show experience and like how like I mean that's kind of a new thing in a way it's like the the Post Reality Show career and Ling I think drag race is one of the strongest platforms in my humble opinion of reality shows in terms of having a career. You know what I think. It's such a voracious fan base for right now and it's such a hot topic. It's it's not like it's like project runway's no longer the hot topic that like it used to be in the early seasons in terms. Holy you know I mean so I feel like to see a show that so big and that's so has so many mechanisms that make it more than a show and into a platform to kind of see the way that platform collapsed a little bit. This year is. What does that tell us about? You know this as like a medium and this is like you know I don't know I I I feel like even even having that thing. Come out first of all because of the NDA's something would need to be done contractually to have something like that. Come out. I think what also even help assuage some of the fan hate that comes from the show because people still are taking this way too seriously right to the point where they are getting upset and sending hate right. So it's like what can we do to offset that? Well you can have a conversation with a troll. You can mute them. You can block them you. Can you know what I mean? You can have queens posts on social media how much they love their sisters all of that. The editing can be kinder but at the end of the day. People are still going to hate because they don't see through the smoke and mirrors and so one thing is to do not exist but get rid of all the smoke and lift the mirror. You know love. The Mirror. Nineteen eighty-seven older sister full lang rounded oval mirror with wooden framing. Yeah anyway conceal her on it right for this fascination anyway. Mary's full circle but with that. Let's let's jump into this episode and tell her Mary's what they are listening to. I mean if they haven't figured this point I would just stop listening now because obviously it's another episode of all right Mary Mary. Of course our podcast dedicated to all things drag race the world of Grace and the paradigm that Rupaul has created with this little DVD TV show. I'm Johnny and drive something on my brace and I'm calling fashion especially so fine so now yes G. G. actions it took US twelve seasons in four all stars. Fun Isn't it. Everybody rush thought here. Don't y'all yes I don't WanNA blow your mind. You know huge though and you know we still needed to be said needed to be set especially from that little goose. Well yeah and I think it's it's worth remembering Reagan's like hey. This is supposed to be fun. Yeah so here's my question for you. Mary maybe we should just start talking about this now. Why isn't Jackie in the top? Four track record so like no. I mean because of the disqualified Queen. How come didn't kind of adjusted? Oh okay so I feel like track. Track RECORD DATA. Play a lease braces. His TRACK RECORD DATA PLAN. Isn't what about eighties? Expensive track record so I think it's because lake. Okay so when like because I almost now I what I'm trying to say is it doesn't feel crazy to me to have a top three now that the format is different. Like I think I mean there's so many different factors in place. I think that now that they're kind of doing this. Sort of drag race Thailand style like it seems like they haven't really fully revealed unless I haven't seen more information is going to be like season eight. I thought right where instead of them writing a song for only Bob and Kim. It's their lip. Synching three of them. Yeah but it's like is it gonna be like? Hey you go produced this and show us what you got or is it like hey like i. I don't know how exactly that's going to be. Are we watching to Queens zooms at the same time Y- apparently they're using. They're using what did they say? In that. Like groundbreaking technology groundbreaking technology? It's like So you're going to use a breakout room. Zoom right. Exactly the chat feature enabled. Yeah are you gonNA share the screen with God i? I am excited to see what that means but I also think that just might be copy fluff right. I mean I guess it's hard to say because I don't really know what the format is but say for example no. I don't think that's a real point because I think nobody knew what it was gonna be. You know probably for a little while it was like what if this is something where the Queen's had to prepare something would theoretically. Jackie have less time. It's no because no one. No they let yeah. They have like five days. Yeah like visit. Sasha Vlore had like three days I think so. I don't I don't know I guess I guess that was just kind of like the cleanest way to do it and maybe it would be more glaring if it was a live finale but because it is this little. Lake Zuma thon that it's just like you could have four Queens. You'd have three Queens. Could've five Queens. It seems like it wouldn't really make that much of a difference because the format is just like it's call you know and you know you wonder about contracts and things like that to make the competition fair but I also wonder like maybe the producers asked Jackie. Kay Do you WANNA be a part of this top four since a Sherry was disqualified? And I feel like maybe Jackie a was like why have respect for the top three. I'm GonNa let them have it. You know I don't WanNa be that girl that was eliminated but went to the finale. Anyway I WANNA let the game play out it was filmed and technically Sherry. D queued after. Jackie was eliminated. Yeah and it also makes me think they've brought back girls all the time during the season but were those times always planned right And I feel like this. They couldn't have planned it when it was filming. So maybe contractually. There's a reason why or maybe they asked. Jackie and Jackie's. Like you know what? Let them have it it's fine. I'd be surprised that that to me. Feels like a like why would they? Why would they if they were like? Okay well we have to get rid of Sherry but with this has to have four queens in the format. Let'S GET JACKIE O. No Jackie Jackie's got too much dignity or way too high. No we've got three Queens. Sorry like not you know what I mean like. I think the magic of TV. That's you know that's where he pulled back the veil and it's like okay well. We need for Queens. Jackie you want to do this or not. You now intersil. That's the case. I don't know what it is. That's it'd be. It's not GonNa be like the championship super bowl kind of thing. I don't yeah I don't I have no idea. Honestly it's like I don't even know what to say because I really have zero idea what to expect other than it's going to be on zoo or you know whatever skype or whatever revolutionary technology they use probably how they do it on doubt that it's going to be live. Is that clear that it's going to be live? Honestly I I'm doubting that as well. I'm sure they would have. American idol isn't live. Yeah there's too many technical potential technical difficulties. They don't they never do it. Live you know what I mean. They never do it live so I mean that's the upside is like they'll be able to really like produce the shit out of it. I think they're going to have like some celebrity guests kind. There's going to be so many Mary. Lisa arena yeah. Oh she'll definitely show up. Probably with Harry Hamlin some some digital version of Katherine Hepburn Odd Say Leslie Jones. See I feel like it might be just a whole big party with Whoopi. Yeah I was thinking about that. It's like they they they can only do so much right so like okay if it is a glorified you know skype group Chat. How can we like add some sparkles to this and so it makes sense to me that it's okay? Well let's throw all these other things at it like. Apparently I don't remember who the sponsor is something like hair sponsor but I feel pantene I think and so while Miss Congeniality. We'll get awarded by Nina West. Apparently Pantene got a surprise for the rest of the Queen's as well so that true that's what I read somewhere as well. Oh my God. They're all going to get ten thousand dollar bonuses. I really do feel like they all deserve a bonus and but you bring another one of my points. My questions Miss Congeniality is Heidi. Just have it in the bag or is there any world where you feel like they could get it I i? I think that crystal won't because she is she's part of the time and I feel like Chan I I think everybody because Miss Congeniality has also kind of all really morphed into also fan. Favorite like Queen's favourite. I feel like between the edit and just like everything we saw. It'd be shocking if it didn't didn't went to if it didn't go to Heidi Jan very congenial but I don't think that's kind of the narrative of John. I think it's a jam is really sweet but she was also really positive and really talented and Could Sing really well like I just think that. That wasn't the narrative you know. Okay Yeah Well I think you're right about that. The the finale is something is going. It's going to be phenomenal or it's GonNa be like you know watching something very silly and honestly pardon me feels like you know whatever it is even if it's like. Kinda dumb like I'm not gonNA kick a horse while it's down like oh no no it's like. Oh Yeah. This is unfortunate. This whole season must've been so hard to figure out every step of the way that it's like the fact that they got to the end that it was a pretty good season still with some great queens and some really strong challenges fun lip syncs and Lake. They'll figure out some way to at least have a finale reunion. It's like you can't blame them for it. Not being exciting live show. You know you can't and you don't want to. I don't think so I can't imagine being like. Oh You. This fucking sucks like that. That's insane to me. Yeah Yeah So Yeah I've seen crazier but yes. I you know about this episode. I think we mentioned in the club the week. How this finale challenge just kind of stepped up fuck up like did so much in terms of singing rapping writing the rap filming it dancing. I The costumes I you know it was a lot. It was a lot. Yeah and I'm Kinda like great. I'm glad that they keep getting better. You know and then it wasn't just a rupaul. Song that they were lip synching too and wrote a rap to you. Know it's like okay great. Yeah keep shaking it up and I really like the guest help that they had I think between Leland and of course Jamal Sims I just WanNa make improper proper cam coach. Oh my God yeah. He's my summer dance camp instructor. Hey Colin you're back this year we're going to get at this year. You're going to be good it by August. You're going to be to stepping back. Outta here. I'm like okay Jamal. I don't know Jamal so supportive I you know it's funny read. It has just been cleaning out about him and just like how great he is. How supportive he is. And it's a lot of anti toddrick sentiment as well. I don't know if we'll leave it right. You don't have to like Shit on one the love the other but obviously but I don't miss toddrick being really at least at the edit being really tough on these queens when they miss yeah yeah right right and that's obvious obvious like producer stuff. You have to be tough. You have to be you know about it. 'cause obviously I'm sure that the hours of rehearsal with the dance captains and whatever. It's very positive and support. Yeah I mean certainly more than we see Taj. I mean Jamal is is. He's just so great he's just so great. He's a nice energy and Leland to an along with stitch I just keep calling his jeff but I keep going stitch. Both of them had really great feedback that they showed and were supportive. And at gave good notes so It was a great team great team and not to mention not only was it directed really well by Jamal and choreographed but also the songs were great. The songs worked. Yeah yeah the songs are really good. I yeah. I thought it was really fun. And it was like these songs are all performed in the drag race live show or they would be or they will be again at some point These are just like these are like for example. These are songs written for potentially Queens with five parts. You know you know what I mean. Lake all of this because I was thinking about how lake these songs were so strong and so much stronger than some of the other like musical challenge staff we've heard on the show and I thought well that makes sense because it wasn't written just for a challenge right like this is like music that was written to bring audiences in every night Totally Yeah it had a bigger arc if yeah Yeah so I one thing I did. Notice is that they cut out the podcast with ru or the lunch with through and they cut out the speaking of to the picture of yourself segment. Yeah I wonder if that was to accommodate for the challenge right because it was long or if it was because of the uncomfortableness with Sherry I would be because they could cut out all the sherry stuff very easily because it's all individual if they also don't know if they've ever done to have five. Queens do all of that. They've never had that before. It's only ever been a top four did that with unseasonal eleven with Vandy and Brooklyn and Silky. Yea they had the yourself thing. Wow I'm an outcast prize if they would cause those especially the pictures like that's the big. That's the moment that's the big heartfelt moment we get the Queen's to cry they could cut Sheri's out as easily as they cut her out of the let it go frozen runway. You know what I mean. Yeah Yeah I don't know I think it may have just been to accommodate the size of the challenge. I could've done with less rehearsal You know but I guess it's I don't know it's like you take one or the other right. It's like you see them being quirky dirty while dancing or you show some heartfelt conversations on the podcast or you know the the speaking to yourself thing interesting choice. Yeah I also feel like going once. We kind of saw them in the workroom again. It does seem like these are running out of things to talk about a little. Bit Lake. There's a lot of like. Oh you know who do change the most. It's like you guys had this conversation like a week ago. You know it's like can you believe we're top-five Yup Yup by? Ken Goes do the math. You know like it. Just because most of this conversation untucked. It just seemed to me that lake there may have been less rehearsal footage if there was more meat on the bones for like the workroom conversations. But like there's no drama you know the the most. We got which I liked. The moment when Jada was kind of reading Jiji's pirate costume again looks at the camera. Such a great little moment. I wonder how plan that was. But he was great. It was really great. Yeah those fourth wall breaks those are you could do a super cut of like the fourth wall breaks. doesn't happen often main episode. So no it doesn't no it isn't yeah. I you know I I appreciate the banter but again it was. It seems like it's been done before. And then even untucked. It was just the same. It was just recapping things that yeah it was like okay great. I love these Queens Great. They're talking and they're being real about their shady moments. Okay cool right. Yeah no I I mean honestly I think that was kind of I. Don't want to say a downside of like they're not being much drama because I mean I guess in a way because I think about season eight season eight was very much a best friend's race but Derek was there through like you know top five so there was still drama and nine was was a bit of best friend race but lake. They're still into Alexis but they still Alexis Michelle and so yes. So it's like even though the top four already really loved each other. It's like there was still some contrasting energies in the room to the very end. Now where is this? I mean once really wants Britain an aide and were head left. There were really any there. Were no more conflicts. And so there's less you know what I mean. There was just less to work with. Yeah right it was all about. Heidi's journey or Jackie's journey And they showed that it's interesting that they didn't get much drama and you don't know if that's if they cut it out intentionally maybe. Sherry head drama You know what I mean. And we don't know what was cut intentionally or what they just didn't have so what kind of story they were trying to tell Yeah I I don't know I I'm not mad at it but I will say this episode. Was you fast forward to the challenge and be fine miss much. All you'd be missing is just during the choreography rehearsal. Just getting Jackie looking. Like someone's dad dancing and a softball picnic. My God which rate great. It is great for me. He kind of looked like one of the nerds from revenge of the nerds dancing. Yeah maybe like what? Maybe he grew up and like met and nerdy wife and they had like a couple of nerdy kids and now they're like nerdy picnic and he's dancing getting dirty. I do WanNa talk about The Vegas Quick Drag Obviously was a commercial. I also think they gave them a lot more time to go to costume. Come on come on. There was nothing funny about this. They looked phenomenal. But what what made me? The most disappointed was there was not one. Showgirls reference not one Nomi Malone reference only earlier during Jackie. Did the little she did that. You know the little hands a after it like announcement the Had Hers is okay. I hear you I would have. I would have assumed 'cause like the thing is like that many challenge. I was like I. Where are the jokes like? What's so what is this supposed to be? We got dump. It was really interesting. We've talked a little bit before about kind of making references to things in season and I feel like Jada was still doing the like confusion thing. I don't know what I'm doing here like the look over there. I'm confused thing crystal was still lean. Referencing the dancing. I feel like Jackie's been talking about her Merkin like since I got here. It's I've been thinking about this this season. No no cast of Queens has been more aware that they're on television and very chill vessel like they're doing their branding and that's what you have to do to cheer to do. But I think that also explains why we're not seeing much drama is because like they are here to create like a persona and a brand and things to put on t shirts and they don't want to be a villain and they don't WanNa villain but you know this mini challenge besides the fact that I was like. There's there's a there's a twist to this that's missing like there's something about this. That isn't really that interesting. I thought it was too serious. It was serious and think if they had ten minutes and it was quick drag than it would have been better totally. They could have really camped up. Who The showgirls work. For the fact that Rupaul didn't say after one of them is leaving rupaul. Didn't say you see Darwin. You are a Hor- I mean a perfect opportunity. I get that little line in there right now. Yeah I like there was nothing. There was nobody. Favorite food was brown rice and vegetables. Yeah right right. Rusted Thrust Yeah honestly I mean. It's not that hard. I would have gone out there. I would have spread the pearls on the stage. You know what I mean. I would would've done ever done the girls reference. Yes every single one. I could think of four. You're well yeah why ask us. Why your so okay? So we have this challenge anything else you WanNa that you notice about this challenge. I I all of them. Were great did it. The one thing that I think will stick with. Fandom is let your hair down swaying around. I think that's the one that people are going to reference. Yeah because she she put a little you know she put a little seasoning spice on it like she she made it interesting made it weird. I think it's just like we were talking about this mini challenge. It's like you can't take it too seriously and like that may be ironic coming from all right. Mary where we will dig locked into shit until it bleeds but at the same thing yeah check a movie a niche networks that so that being said I feel like It's kind of like you don't have to be the best singer and if you aren't you. I mean she did this in the Madonna roots or call. She just like put a funny thing on it. That made it more interesting than if she sang. It perfectly Are you talking about crystal? Yeah Oh totally. Yeah I more to say about the challenge before we do that. Let's just take a quick little ad break and then we'll be right back. Oh I would love to. He marries. Let's talk about therapy for a minute. I could honestly talk about therapy all day. Say Bright I think anybody could benefit from seeing a therapist honestly totally. I also think it's very easy to talk yourself out of seeing a therapist people decide it's too expensive for. 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P. dot com slash. Alright Mary all right Mary Mary one other thing. I loved about the finale final challenge. Here is the first song or maybe it wasn't the first time he was the third song. Losing as l'ONU winning Think about that on all right. Mary Level Right. Think about that just a little bit deeply. Right they're singing about how if they lose. They'll still fucking fierce now if that is not a reaction to the fandom a reaction to cancelling the losers or comparing queens if you will and their track records. I don't know what is like that is certainly something put in there very strategically and I mean not for nothing. I don't know what this suggests at least in terms of at least two thirds of them in terms of the queen singing lyrics that are really leading until like not winning. It's Jackie Sherry Crystal. Little Solos about like okay. I didn't make the hall of fame or I didn't do this red do that. Whereas like Jada gee-gee come bursting out from the back with like very confidently. Rx And I thought that was really like Oh this feels. This feels to me like an interesting example of what's happening at this point in the season because I think that's true I I mean I I feel like I'm very happy to see that to go all the way to just like a top three conversation but I'm very happy crystal top three but I do feel like it's down to G G and Jada interesting that you say that. Wow I I think traditionally yes. It's down to Jada and G G but oh my God. The story of crystal is the one that people told Mary. I think it's a great story. I think honestly vis challenge. I think Krista was really good this challenge. I think Jada was great. This challenge and I hate to say it did really well in this challenge. Gee-gee was doing it. Looks like gee-gee is doing what she was. Put on this earth to do. And that's what's so powerful about gee-gee and drag is it. It's kind of like Eliza Edwards is like Oh of course this yell makes sense Rhyming Amory Aspect of her performance for sure. Yeah I like I say I hate to say this only because it's just like jade kind of the one I want to win and crystals the weird underdog didn't excited about and so you know g kind of false third but it's like well you can't really say that she the first time I watches. I thought Oh no no Jada. This is Jada. She's GonNa win. This and I was so shocked g g one and then when I watched it again I was like no so good at miss. She's so good at the whole time. You've got to give it to her the whole time and so I like I guess all that to be saying said that lake in a way I would be happy to see any one of them win because I have a reason to root for anyone of them which I know is so like fence sitter but lake. No it's five I. There's so many people that are team Jada Team G G team crystal end team. Jackie for that matter right there are so many people are like give it to any of them and especially after surviving the season in general. Yeah how can you beg? How can you pick it this time? They're so different. They each offer something so different. I will say this on the top three and then we could go back and talk about Jackie but on this top three crystal is doing kind of what Ev. Oddly in a Sharon needles is doing. She's drag in in a different direction. Jada is impeccable impeccable pageant perfect funny well rounded and then you have gee-gee who is. I feel like the traditional winner that in three years ago it would be g GS and the what's interesting about that. She is adding this campus to the clam something that I don't think aquaria quite did As intentionally at least in in her performance right so g is also adding this quirk which I think is cool and fresh and new but in terms compared to crystal method right the method of crystals drag is very much more about all the colors and about using your imagination. Yeah I mean I think what they all have in common is like they you could. You could look at any one of them and say okay. Jiji's a fashion queen and Jada Pageant Queen and crystals a clown queen and be like fifteen percent right and that there's so much more underneath the surface that those things are true but there's so much service of each of them and I think that's like it's been interesting to kind of see examples of that throughout the season and I think they're great. I think they feel league. He has I feel like the thing. That's really special about G. G is like the in some ways to be honest. It's really like the human being underneath a drag. Like I think she's a really interesting person and has like a really interesting mind and interesting perspective and I think totally undermines that idea of the cold fashion queen and I feel like she's anything but you know Yeah I totally and you know what it came out in and this is a reason why you you might give it to g G. This week her runway. I thought was short. Reminding me of tricks in Pearl from Susan's heaven. Okay okay. But but it her. Her aesthetic totally came out here and I just thought that it worked. I got the Glam. I got the funny. She fucking made that dress right. And you know I don't know Brace yourself here. Mary She yes. She's a winner. Yeah I felt like she was. I mean if she's in her own way a bit of a reference Queen and we need to hold on or whatever reference Queens this season we can because i. I'm just so mad. It's like Sherry. Don't you then also be a reference queen like? Don't you ruin everything for me please? But we'll me for but I also feel like gee-gee own reference queen way like this was giving me Joan Cusak in sixteen candles if she got invited to. The pro is that has the headgear. She's trying to drink out of the water fountain. It's Joan Husak. Oh Yeah I'm quite high and that's Cusak together. Yeah I kind of feel like I'm I mean I'm always here for Joan cusack reference. Malibu Yeah Marabou Barbie was like oh a but the one thing I did want Rupaul. To say just take the piss out of himself when he was walking down the runway. Do I have something on my brace? Oh my would have been rule would have secured. Bsa of the week with that. That would have been. That would have been a totally and you know what when Jackie Cox walked out and that amazing huge Polka dot dress. I wanted somebody to say this. Is Our daughter Dadi. This is our other daughter. Jackie Cox and that would mean like who deep of a cut. I mean I get it. It's worth it. I know yeah right. That's why I'm not on that show. Because they know well you know I mean I would say sorry. Excuse me I would say that I feel. Do you know if this condescending that ignore me but some people might not know where the reference I feel like the mother of a solid Colt dancer comes from condescend away Mary where where does it come from A. Why didn't WanNA talk down? You know I don't know. We all have different references that that is a great line from the golden girls from fabulous episode. Where dorothy starts is smitten with some someone at the school where she substitute teaching only to find out that he's a priest when she invites him over for dinner and he shows up in his priests club. It's it's such a great episode. It's such a great scene. I could clean out but I'm not going to but she's wearing of like you. Dorothy kind of walks out and she's wearing like you know lemay top and she feels like an idiot and he says you you know you look lovely. Says I feel like the mother of a solid gold dancer dancing. I know that much. Yeah it's you know I'm doing zero justice and you know railways business but that's todd. Yeah well I WANNA talk about Jackie Cox because I think I think we kind of alluded to this before we started recording but Jackie Jackie one. The lip sync well. That's the thing Jackie when the lip sync lip sync and honest with you. I wanted to talk about Jackie throughout this season. Jackie performed really fucking well. Okay she could have won snatch game if you think about it like if they edited in a different way she could have won. Lisa Renna right she. Yeah yeah the One woman. Show some could argue. She should have won that one to over crystal who didn't really reveal anything too close to the heart. She was just funnier than Jackie. Which is why perhaps you want. And you know it's crystal method and rupaul loves barge And you know I know that last week we had our own thoughts about the one woman show. But it doesn't mean that it wasn't you know heartfelt and well put together an important. It just wasn't my cup of tea because I feel like I've seen it before at the time she could have won that challenge the rap challenge. She was at the top she could have won. I met bitch world's worst during the acting thing the Improv. She did Old Lady Drag. She could have won that one. She could've won for her magic carpet. Merkin obviously crystal did very well that weekend. I'm really happy that she won but actually she didn't win. She didn't win. She didn't even fucking win that. Who when the question was Heidi when Heidi finally it should have been crystal. That's right it should've could've been that. That should have been crystals. When and like I agree. Jackie's wasn't Ulch Crystal Jackie's one woman show wasn't my cup of soup but I think in terms of like what they were asking for. It's like this is kind of like what they were looking for one. That didn't do comedy like straight up comedy right. Did A one woman type show that Whoopi Goldberg even said like if you're not funny don't be funny. I love Yeah I mean I think that like Jackie's track record is certainly been really strong that she you know. Yeah there were so many times. We're yes she certainly could have won. I think we had these similar conversations about Sasha velour. It's like sure she had two shared wins but there were other challenges. She very clearly could have one. I think I mean this is again where I guess it goes back to like. Why didn't Jackie win? Know why is she not top for track record because well and also the lip sync to? That could have gone to Jackie. Well that's what I'm saying is like two in my mind. Jackie won the lip sync but in the larger narrative of the game to then have the top three. Jackie gee-gee Jada. It feels totally unbalanced. Even though the finale doesn't really take into account the track record and it doesn't really matter. I think in that larger thing of like if Jackie were to win like the feedback. The reaction would be so poor. You know even more so than than we've seen people react in the past it just wouldn't it wouldn't make as much sense and so I feel like that's why like I crystal was okay in the lip sync and had a couple of moments like Jack. Wiping the floor with her. Oh my God wiping the floor. I have never I never in my ears. Yellow at a girl like No I just. It was obvious I could not stop watching Jackie. She was so good and she had that dressed to play with and she for heels and it worked it totally worked and it was funny and then you have a crystal who I feel like. They never really showed her lips like they never really most of her lip synching because her face was so lost by the makeup that I sure she did the funny dances and stuff and I love that but Jackie knew every word to that song. Are- word and that is not very lifting friendly song. I was very shocked at the choice and happy that they chose such a hard song but to me. It was Jackie that like literally was cocoa pointing to her mouth. Yeah and like saying all of this knowing that she kicked off the lip sync with an air accordion. I noticed I've never seen it before. You've never seen an era according before. So you have to give her. I didn't need the nuance of the novelty. And it was one of those little accordions. It was wondering if it wasn't even like they'll be yes. Yes it was one of those like organ grinder ones. I don't know why they call it but that's a bad term but it was just one of those little accordions we she's like. How dare you but I mean I think? I heard extra with these errands. But not the branding. Mary I love the Brady. It's just it's just just when I think I've seen it all Paul. Does it matter when she did those drums that attitude. I always think of when I when I see that I think bub-bubba and then this all that being said Jackie like that fucking dress. The way that she danced with address it was beautiful and I know most of the time when queens take their shoes off. I'm like paddle turns. Oh my for some reason her taking the shoes off it like completed the fantasy for me you know. I just oh yeah like it needed to him in. Yeah beat it can offer to suffer. Shoes goes onto the wedding or Bar Mitzvah floor. Y'All does paddle turns your show. Yeah this is she she lit that Bar Mitzvah op. Ed I know Salaam Salaam Shalom right. I mean I. It's a total beautiful moment for Jackie during this lip sync so yeah. I think honestly she should have won but happy that crystal one. Don't get me wrong. And you know the look was a choice and I think what I liked about crystals. Look that you can either love this or hate this and I find that very compelling. Oh yeah because in a way. It kind of looks like an old blueberry Blueberry Berry Berry you forgot blueberries but you know what I also got violet. You're turning violet violet sour cream. It was kind of like if like violet beauregard head lake. I don't know like stomach. Stapling or like bariatric surgery and is at the. Yeah but she still had all the extra skin like. I felt like very smart violence. Small islets gone on a weight shirt. Like it's it's an interesting narrative. Here's violet beauregard. After her weight loss journey after her juicing journey yes she went on a juice fast. Yeah you choose fast. Yeah and she lost the Jews a little too fast. What does it shake the sake? The dyson shake the juice and see what shakes loose. Yeah I did like the yellow blache that being the sour cream in my mind. Sure Evan. Ross cats with commenting on the yellow blush. I agree totally. It was a nice little touch but at the end of the day I was like okay. Jeannie look a genie look great. Yeah I mean it's a cool look. We haven't really seen that silhouette before so it's certainly original. Yeah just like down to performance. It was like Oh boy. This is really clearly Jackie's But and I guess maybe that's why I'm saying it feels like it's g g versus Jada really because I felt like this was to me. It kind of felt like in season five when jinx finally lip sync. It was like Oh just so you know that your children may know like this is how well drinks can lip sync and it was like kind of cemented her winning status by killing that final. Lip Sync. I kinda guess was hoping that crystal was going to have a similar thing like fuck she can lip sync and like yeah feeling like. Oh like watch out G G Jada but now I kind of feel like I'm really happy crystal got top three but like I think if it's down performance I think I've seen more compelling performances just on the season from G. G. R. Jada totally. Yeah Yeah I feel like is going to turn it out. Yeah I think they stay student outing same like I feel like both of them. Were the straight a students. They were the one that like did all of the extra credit that they turned in their art projects and they were fucking perfect. I Yeah I just think that they're going to do very well in this format in this homework. Type Format which reminds me I. I realized that this episode that G G especially in her boy drag with her classes and everything. Gee-gee reminds me of tanners dirty little gay friend Derrick on full House. Do you remember him. Of course I do he son. I'm a Yankee little doodle. Yeah Danke doodle. Dandy that little Yankee doodle Dandy but he's somewhat relevant. Now I know he's like a Gogo dancer. You was an popped up on a few things. I think he's one of those like child stars who are now hot. You know what I mean. This is his. Name's it's Blais Ewing. Blake macgyver. I think he wanted her ever you and yes yeah he was in the little rascals was is. I did a little quick search to make sure I was remembering the rate little gay friends just remembering myself so he he. He was a Gogo play Mary. Apparently at some point you know. Yeah Yeah. Thank you doodle. Dandy Yankee doodle gangs doodle for people you know what I'm saying is Dandy adults incented Dude. Of course a little home out back in the day and he still is so we never show you. Okay Oh my God Jackie type of character. Obviously you know Jada is black so it's not like it's they look the same but I feel like that character of the one who's always better. Yeah no totally. It's the it's the you know I mean I feel like Jada is. Yeah everything she does like. I feel like especially if she has a chance to kind of do our own thing if the lip sync like. Here's the lights. Here's the camera. Make the Action Happen Jada. If that's what happens I think would be strong competition but I would assume Jada will kill it. I mean like I hear you. I just that I slept butterflies. But we've all been valuable lesson you know stick to the slug caterpillars that you're used to Mary Another random thing I wanted to mention is that when they cut the runway and rues in traducing the judges and has a little Chitchat with Michelle and Michelle says she feels like Lucky Santangelo and that reminds me of this is one of those era drag race that I have had just buried in there speaking of slug caterpillars that I've had buried in my head for years is from season to the once upon book challenge. Their special guest is Jackie Collins and I can't remember they were talking about one of the Queen's and Jackie said Oh. She reminds me of one of my heroines. Because Jackie was written a ton of books and at Russa's Oh which one and Jackie goes I think it was lucky Santangelo. And it's the way that she says that in like a bitch like you know like this wasn't planned and I don't know I've just always been attached to wish she goes. I think it would be lucky Santangelo. That's why we're having this moment now. Great I love it. I Love Life I love. I think that's fabulous was worth a forty five seconds took the towel I'm into it. You know I can think of is just before we go. It's Valerie cherish reference. It's worth stuffing in there. But when Carson refers to Jada is wearing looking like she's wearing updated Nolan Miller. That reminds me Valerie because when she I think it's for the Golden Globes. She's trying on different things cheaper. Eventually she's like this is all just too much for me. I think I'll go with the Nolan Miller. And she comes downstairs in the most one thousand nine hundred ninety s ever so no. One Miller. The Nolan Miller Valerie cherish and the Nolan Miller. It's like when when Oh I need my hair changed and it looks exactly the same joke of. She's actually not going to change. I think of the Brady Bunch is what I'm thinking of right where Carol Carol Brady goes to get her hair done with that very gay hairdresser and he and he turns around and it looks exactly the same thing I like it and it's the same. Yeah Yeah But Anyway Sorry. Another weird Each year on Reference Carol Brady Shelley Long. Anyway are you. Are you good on this episode? I go on that journey on your own. I think I'll meet you at the benches on that one. I'm the waist Mary's If you have any thoughts any thoughts at all you can reach us at all right. Mary on Twitter. Or you can find us on the web at all right there. You can also podcast. Novak can find the on instagram at Johnny. Also twitter at also and of course you can find more in details and celebration of nuance or best supporting podcasts nuances and actresses new actresses. You can find me on twitter instagram. You can find more vote. The vote bonus episodes pretty much every single week and so much more aright Mary. A note Patriot dot com slash. Alright Mary Speaking of which I believe we are not going to have a new episode but we will have only. Mary's we will have this month only Mary's episode which is going to be chockablock with fun topics it's probably. GonNa get weird so get into it. Yeah Bitch get into it. Yeah we didn't want to have a nuance episode where we were just kind of laughing at each other's jokes so people who really want here that yeah totally. Mary's if you're also looking for another hour of podcast content I just want to plug the shut up. Evan podcast with Evan. Ross Katz Evan. Recently had on is it Mizrahi which was a fantastic interview like he even asked him about the term Mary towards the end of the interview. It's it's absolutely fabulous but He had on Raja recently. And this interview Raja. Raja is a gold mine of stories and references not just because of his experiences with drag race but also on top model and working with Tara banks enduring you know that whole world And also season three of drag race so kind of still lives in this time capsule anyway. The interview is fantastic. So if you have you know if you're not listening to to nuance this week or you're just looking for other free content that's queer. Please listen to the show up podcast. It is really great. And I'm not just saying that because I love Evan. Ross cats and he's listeners of our podcast but it is. It's valuable stuff. The conversation that are having and it's You know all credit to Evan. Who Asks really really great questions and really knows how to just banter with a guest to to really get get to a different level which. I just appreciate won't great. Well that's yeah. I haven't heard that interview yet so I am going to take root for it but I'll check it out all right. Well I think all that's left I I don't I haven't heard it yet so I can't no I'm laughing because your transition but anyway That's my ellen. Last year slips in class this week we kind of went back and forth and I don't know I think he just resigned. I had a brilliant idea but at once again much like the much like the singer behind the song I chose. Something else was picked my my choice. Choice was the only song I could find on. Spotify based Susan Lucci in honor of Jackie. But once again Susan you've been picked over Glenn close in the back in a booth. Go sit with our. I think Amy Adams will be earned. Twenty minutes you were so Glenn close to winning it Hogan Close So the last year looks like this week is leaving Las Vegas by Sheryl Crowe which I think makes sense for Jackie Cox. She's leaving this buzzy. World is gambling place. She didn't win gun. And she's still fucking fears. And it's going to be so yours leaving Las Vegas enjoy Mary's and we'll CNN league springs eternal. 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S05 E03 Pt2 JAMIE CLAYTON | THE JOY OF SEX AFTER GCS

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S05 E03 Pt2 JAMIE CLAYTON | THE JOY OF SEX AFTER GCS

"Go listening to allegedly NYC. Hello and welcome to another episode of Lesser Kate and Life Nomi Louis Iverson home and readjust to girls with a New York minute hand sanitizers. Two girls were fighting literally. Can't grow hear panic like pure panic attacks? I can't find hand. Sanitizer it being Jay or whatever the fuck and I'm Jay that's accessories Mike Science Rossi Crystals Glue No Yeah everyone who wants to drink? Coronas Cronin buyer was stupid bitch. I can't I hope we're not friends with that person. Because she's she's stupid. Well we're under quarantine here at edgeley seriously. Ain't no man. I remember Maitha Gun. We're like in a condom. Yeah we have to keep on living but be cautious You know they'll be discussing. What are you gonNA catch a Colt? I don't know I have no idea what's happening. Apparently somebody got it recently and they tried using a medication they use AIDS and Chevy like. I'm not sure if it was prep. Or the Koksal. You take to to For Your Immune Immune System so. Apparently I believe that works for that person. They don't have it in their system anymore. So that's GonNa be a gag. I'm wondering how that's GonNa work out and it's going to be no more. Hiv Medication for you. Now like rich have. We're we're starting all nineteen eighty-six all over again of Jesus so I'm curious to see how our this is the beginning. Become like fucking walking Zad. Everyone's shooting each other hand sanitizer and prep and MTA. Finally clean the subways. I well about mother fucking time girl. They find MT finally decided. I lost recently. Maybe burned okay. Well they finally decided to give the train cars and buses. They disinfect them every three days. Okay I like they're supposed to be scrubbed on a nightly basis until the viruses contained. They should have done it. I kind of think that should have been happened. Actually thought that that's what they normally do. Yeah B- between parks and they clean it. I've because I thought that was always the case. When you're at the very last stop they'd be like a clean. 'cause I've been I've been you know in last ups many times in my life I've always I'm always lost up and they always like doing like you know like a mop and a HOOPLA. We'll now it's back now. They're gonNA start just recently. I saw this guy I was. It was so Monday for her like it. It hurt so clearly like she was sitting down and homegirl and she got up so quickly. Cutting grabber girl. She got periods saying all over her chair. There was a puddle of Nice. She's wearing away like it was like the worst Monday for her and she just got up and she you know got off and I saw like periods day and I saw blood. I'm like oh no. And she zoomed out and was like Shit. There's no one to tell her link girl you know 'cause you know some girls girl or she didn't know she even now. She zoomed out and I wanted to be like horror stories. Those kind of things happen this rain. They should this new people piss themselves. I know I've kissed them myself. Nor that's happened in the past. Those late nights. Were like fuck him in the train. Like look like site. Well the- rapper. Iggy Azalea expressed embarrassment after. Finding her mother has been stockpiling toilet paper amidst fear of the corona virus outbreak. Toilet paper. What she gonNA show yourself. Is that one of the symptoms. I guess people think they're gonNA quarantine and the first thing. They're going to his paper towel I would. I saw a bunch of White House today with whole actually people towel holding the poll. Really go well. Good luck with that too because in the air isn't isn't as well. You can get on surfaces surfaces that you're right because I'm always fingering my face woman's doing like a press conference on surfaces just if you touch surfaces don't touch your face and then she like licks her finger. Everyone's just kind of like we all like you know when you when it rains. People don't know how to walk or drive or hold an umbrella anymore. People not like we're not surviving for some reason. I have no idea but we just need to calm down. And don't panic don't panic. You should have been washing your hands anyway. You always. I'm if I'm going to have wings with you and I. I don't see once in a bathroom washing hands. 'cause WE SHARE WINGS GROW. I have I have hand signs. Are we going to watch yourself is reportedly now? I'm going to remove the last remaining people from the streets. Oh where am I another place? We pass removed thirty payphone in Hell's kitchen by March. Wow it's happening. And then they're going to rip out about three thousand more homes across the borough. I can't remember the last time I wanted to be honest. I always loved knowing that there was a bit used to call you from people all my God when I guess thank God for those but like I always liked the booth because sometimes you need to take a minute to go to yourself. You know you have to go get your phone. Charged our right to replace them with phone charger. That'd be charging stations fun place to make out with a boy to well. That's what was your offer close closed right right. I don't think cvt this tea is a Kiki. I am so fucking ready. So a contestant on drag race is joining the list of Metoo drag to kidding me dragged to what's going on so at least five young actors have come out about a contestant on the season's repulsed drag racing Sherry Pie. Oh stating that. He catfish them over several years via email posing as a casting director who led them to submit embarrassing audition tapes of themselves saying in doing degrading thing. Ooh Girl One of the accusers that I just felt really stupid. I felt really dumb. He filmed scenes. Twenty two dozen fifteen wearing a tank top shorts for a fake musical version of nightmare before Christmas that he was told Tim Burton with affiliated with. What's and then another victim was sending tapes for for something where they were talking about. He he needs to get more pumped and more ripped and then they were telling him like maybe it will help if you go to the bathroom and masturbating comeback into the scene again. What's and then he did your dummy and then he comes back and they're like Oh why don't you do? It live on like on camera now and he did it. Come on kids. Don't do that. That's stupid that's stupid. That's you know that little thing in your insides like you know what the seems wrong. That bit instinct thirsty for fame. They're like okay. I'm masturbate in front of someone you literally don't know who's just recording it for their saint and for their for themselves for their disgusting pleasure that's disgusting just for a part. Hey Boys and girls just so you know this is weird got and you should know. This is weird and don't do it. Don't do that. Shit Right Guess Timber Film. I mean no I mean we. I've done stupid stuff but I won't. They wanted to do. Yeah and I differ free and for free. I mean. I've been in situations with photographer. Eddie get older. You take off your top. Let me see how naked and I'm like what the fuck is going on Mt. Yeah that's not. That's so in. You know what I shouldn't say it's an age thing but also is just a gut thing. If you feel weird don't do it do it. Kids but on the other boys grow everybody even ooh Sherry. I was GONNA get eliminated right. We're not gonNA have just get the fuck out. Well Sherry released a statement saying how sorry. He was for causing such trauma and paint and how hardly embarrassed and disgusted. He was with himself. Oh God was that before after he just pounded a bunch of makeup on your face and aware and ended a split well then. Vh1 came out with a statement saying in light of recent developments and Cherry Pie. Statement Sherry Pie has been disqualified from halls. She would not be participating in the grand finale. No you're not you're done chow. That's honestly she just made so many people degrade themselves way. Fuck you selling my dear but you are up for elimination Kim embarrassing embarrassing well. I'm excited for the rest of this episode. To this is part two of our conversation with the Jamie Clayton. A-list the One and only Jamie Clean Aka the other norm I was. It's so funny someone to notice my instagram than I had her on instagram. And she's like she shores gorgeous shells like yeah she is and guess what she's really Nice. It's just everything she is and she's gorgeous isn't it terrible knows Bush's like but but the arrows are so good. I was like I know she's Nice and she's Nice Gorgeous. Jamie gets this episode. We're finally getting into sex talks and the topic is the joy of sex after confirmation surgery. are you confirm? Because I'm confirmed we gotTA WE GOTTA clean train train myself. Because I can't coy on a payphone. Sterilize everything is all right. Well you motherfucking and she's nice listening to allegedly nyc. Do you know what time it is. Darling oh he. Where's my coconut oil? Ask You make your slaps on users. I think we have some sex talk last time about sex. And he's open. I'm all about this is. This is a topic near and dear to my heart. This is after my essay the joy of sex after reassignment surgery. Brilliant Article Thank You. Gender reading reaffirming surgery. I don't think we also talk about the term. That's now like a modern term of like. Because we were the Tacoma chain yes well like Trans Women were referred to as either like you were a tranny or you were a sex change. Ooh Post exactly right. Yeah the other languages agenda reaffirming surgery. Oh my God I didn't even know that yeah I think gender affirming or gender gender convert mate was gender reassignment confirmation. Now it's now it's gender reaffirming who knows what it is. Let us know at allegedly hit us up at allegedly away dot com tweet. What's the proper term for all you kids at school? But I wanted to talk about this with Jimmy because I feel like I've been re passionate about this topic where I feel like there till this day. There's a lot of myths and misconceptions about reassignment surgery because there are so many limited experiences that are vocalized right. I want to like the experience because you always talk about. Are these we you know? We both love our perceived. All three of us live our. Yes and I feel like we need to like. Take away from the stigma from this. I want to say thank you to you too. I would like to take like just take like thirty seconds to a minute to say. Thank you know me Kerr. We's for helping me Jamaica Thanh A as a woman of a post OP Trans Gender experience. You learn how to express myself verbally about my my pussy. My Vagina might my sex life. You're the only woman who I know who is post op transgender experience. Who is so open and so willing to talk about your body and your sex life in a way that is so free and so opening. You have always made me feel from the minute that I met you. You've made me feel more confident in more sexy in more beautiful and every time I am around you we. This comes up in in in different ways shapes and forms whether it be about with partners or sex toys or masturbation or just self love and self care you always. I always feel better uplifted after being around you then I have with anyone else. So thank you know me. Your fucking brilliant. You're you're the work the writing that you have done. Listen any girl as a great anyone listening. Who is who is either gentlemen who are Trans Women who are of Trans Experience whether you're pre post. Whatever undecided no means writing work that she has done it is across many platforms. Many publications have solicited her work because it appeals to a broad audience in every time. I've read some of her work. I've always felt better so read it. Seek it out. Read it. Nomi Ruis like frank about this this topic because when I was reading about my post op experiencing the pleasure that is found bound. Ciswomen mean contact mean just across the board were just like Oh my God. This is just the you're literally like explaining my experience in another way I think at the end of this is the universal story but I think there's also parts of it that are just like us getting to that place where we're all in the same. We all just want to feel seeing and yarns women. I think you know for Trans People in general but I will speak for myself as a trans woman. It's very far and few between that. I feel seen in an article. That's written about breaks or sexual encounters so when I read as your writing it I mean it's incredible because before we started doing essays. I felt like a lot of the articles before that were tragic so there are so tragic inside and to the point of people almost like not wanting to go through. You know the whole experience of of transitioning because they're terrified that. Oh my God I'm not going to seek pleasure again or all that all that I was becoming it was becoming a how do you say? What does that obsessed with a SOB story especially with women fashioned? Like we've spoken to suffer and such was like Drinking Coca Cola pockets like are you fucking kidding? Me Like people have. It's an urban myth. Exactly that's trying to get. Urban myth does the ones of us that are successful and happy and healthy we. Just we don't were told were taught to shut up always and that's yeah sucks but I think I think I think that's due in part to like we're also trying to create and maintain boundaries society. That say we should not be objectified and you know that the focus should because obviously everyone's always focused on our bodies and things like that and that's fine and we should set those boundaries at the same time it's make it's made it seem like very you know shameful to talk about sex when it comes to transient. It's bullshit and we need to have it all. We need to like the like the rest of our lives and the rest of the world. We live in a spectrum and so transexuality and Trans bodies. We live on a spectrum which we will talk about it on a spectrum also have our boundaries be respected. Yes because there. Is this idea that with with Trans People. I think that there was this big movement years ago where it was absolutely forbidden to talk to Trans Women specifically about their bodies and surgeries that they've had but what that did detrimentally to a big part of our community was put a lid on the Trans Women who have experienced like positive sexual pleasure whether it be post pre up. It prevented us from talking about the positive ways in which we have been getting. Fucking silence from the pleasures stigmatize. Yeah it's part of the commute. Iran sunk transpeople specifically for Trans Women. Who Do not WanNa talk about their bodies. That is fine however in that moment that that was happening. I felt as though I wasn't allowed to express pride in my Ralph and my vagina and how hard I had worked towards having that and I can come and I can orgasm and I've been with men who enjoy my body and who enjoy bringing me pleasure as a woman. I shut down and I didn't talk about it until I met number. I can ask you really quick question though. Do you think this stems from this? Shame of Shitty men everything them to the shame of citizen man. Yeah well and I think that it's also in part due to you and I have talked about like our own community members who do not want to talk about their bodies because they are not necessarily at a place where they are. It's it's I think those are the time and place it's like if you're interviewing me for like the movie that I'm in like you shouldn't genital. Yes like it depends if I if I go to a certain interview and I'm talking about the transgender experience and all the spectrum of then maybe we should talk about it. If I'm there to promote like my new album out moments where it's like I'm sitting there born a man and I was like first of all definitely not and second of all. No one is if you're not talking to me about check number three we're not talking. Which is the best check and not use a single exactly? Don't fucking talk to me less. I am I here for that but like there is a time and place to talk about it. Yes and there is a time and place to be respected. And it's almost the same time in place. Where any other person is in the same space out there. If Ron Howard stern we can talk about exactly on allegedly Amnuay motherfucking see can we can talk. And that's why I'm here and I knew people listening. I Jamie Clayton. The actress knew that I was going to come onto allegedly NYC and that this was going to be part of the subject matter. I was one hundred percents. She's an essential in that happening. Always but if I'm going to go do an interview with entertainment we coach. Go Talk to like you know about the don't ask me about my vagina. There's another business fucking rude first of all fucking well. I'm fruit okay. But I'm privileged. I O what? We're talking about dates now though the first day. Well let's see since before we went on what the random question but like if you meet a guy bar and he's like hey girl talking disclosure. I'm talking to disclosure gone. I don't like going out with a guy unless he knows that I've been through what I've been through because it's part of who I am. It's not who I am. Guy Gardner Bar and he recognizes you for your assists role in the alward. He's all cleaned up. Yes I love you on the and then he's like you're like he's kinetic y'all for dinner next week gorgeous. Yes gorgeous everything ever-widening then he's gone. You love yeah which then you go home. And then they go I would i. Would I would exchange numbers in the moment and then I would tell him. I would have disclosure before we go out because I'M NOT GONNA WASTE MY TIME Fucker Game. I would say I would think what you would tax it saying the moment or like you would exchange numbers single home in Texas or if I was tipsy in a bar I would exchange numbers and then probably do overtaxed rain because on my on my dating profile on tinder. Google me famous I yes. That's the same as on my profile lake. It's it's when I'm hiding. I'm proud of my trans ness opposite. You're proud of being a right. Ask Her really kind of I think. Honestly if a guy doesn't want to go out with me because I'm trans then I don't WanNa go out with him. Yes yeah I have a vagina woman. Yeah if you and if the only reason that you don't WanNa go out with me is because I wasn't born with my vagina then that's fine thank you. I don't want to go out with you either at it. Thank you should have known that. Ten years ago I. I'm I'm happy with a guy who else you got yourself out of queue. Yeah thank you for what? I'm going to give back to the like trends. The jet vaginal experience. Oh Yeah when I had my reassignment surgery. I felt very isolated. I felt like I was only growing in the world going to this. I feel very alone. No I'm trying to figure out how to make other guys out there not feel so isolated and alone and like I know. We're all having these like similar experiences in journeys finger going on on them alone like we're just in our bubbles. Well I I feel like now like it's twenty twenty. I mean there's like honestly like all age myself and I'll be fucking real with the both of you when I transitioned. I mean like there was I had like dial up internet. It was like the girls nowadays. There's there's more access to information. There's more surgeons I I went to Toby Meltzer okay. It was two thousand and three. I went to Toby. Meltzer in Scottsdale Arizona. I don't even know if he's still practicing anymore. They're like my breast doctor Omega that. They're in an ex planted a year and a half ago. But it's as far as the Vaduz concerned back in the day. There were three doctors three that I knew of on my dial up Internet. There was toby meltzer. There was a guy in Canada called Brisard and then there was a guy in Thailand and now and now our yes yes and now there's a dozen at least I consulted with an amazing doctor in New York for a bit of a bit for a bit of a to atop rolling on a health. Y I mean like I'm going to the GROOMER. Ha winning sixteen years pursued this Titan Thalji. I believe she's Specifically Trans. But you know she. She's phenomenal but there just wasn't as much information back then or access to. I think now it's an I also think that like but I hope so because I I don't know if it's interesting but like I feel like sometimes it may be amongst other women you know the way worth so shielded from each other sometimes. Yes because we're like a free about China's we yeah right exactly. We talk about our dog. We talk about Harley honestly personally I just started talking about China with other girls that are my age are going through changes and it's just opened up this whole huge dialogue. How they see how. How many women do you not like? Look at their vagina with here. The difference between the Click your Retha and the value. Kosovo was a group of people that really go with our pussies but I am. I feel the the the cock the Dick. The pianist com they and nowhere to an nowhere to come and also on top of that lake. The help health means like lately. There's this chapter has been about health and major part of my next to the woman. Yes new obsessed. It's her Pussy Fragrant Pussy extra runs. I do I WANNA I WANNA turn this conversation into into pleasure because after I had my surgery took me a while to get in tune with my body and it wasn't until I had a sexual partner who was like in tune with my my actual like distributing pleasure where I was like finally. Oh Wow this is like a thing because there for awhile. I like there was a lack of pleasure. Where like I? There was a period of self blame. Where like I blame myself for. Every bad sexual experience I had like right away ahead like a guy who had been hooking up with for a while before my surgery and he was eating meow and I wasn't exceedingly pleasure. I was actually experiencing discomfort and I remember calling like we were talking and I was like. Is this normal girl. Sometimes it feels like you're rubbing yourself against the cheap rug and I was like how blessed the you have a girlfriend that you could call it friends. Yes qualifying on a friend France. Yes girl girl. Honestly there's some guys that really arches so think that they could eat grow out and it ends up being the most terrible experience rely. Stop then you know. Because you're the figure leave. I WANNA go. He's money's obsessed with pleasing specificity. It's like as a trans woman to have a guy eating your pussy. Right like the most firming and you drive Mitt that it's feel exactly and that's also why like when I was like maybe it's still in my head was like maybe it's different for her so I was like I was still separating. No doesn't mean no. I knew he went to a doctor and I knew that he did what he needed. There is this period of self blame which I think is important for other transcripts. And now when you have your surgery there the period of like trying to figure out what pleases. You. What's right or wrong for you. With whoever your you know your your partner should be like or should not be like what role the girls out there listening to get when you get your surgery. There is a period between like surgery and and receiving full pleasure where you are very insecure and very blame everything your body and and stories and that's what goes through yes. I think that I definitely one hundred percent felt that because from the time that I had my surgery to the time that I actually had my first orgasm was maybe a year it takes time for your body to heal and settle into itself and for all of the nerves to reattach when you need to be patient patient. Patience is a virtue page amount. Always a woman seldom man young nerve thing. I think it's also a mental thing where like it's a mentally. You're a vulnerable space where you're like. This is my new body and we're so who impatience is a major part of it to hugh because because you want so badly to feel the pleasure of it yes and and feeling the whole sensation that you feel like there's something wrong with there's nothing wrong. I mean let's be honest on Ryan taking a shed. Bray hard where you're on narcotic painkillers like you being different. Pooping is different. You all of it is fucking different and also. I really really really want to say like because I said this before. No one will print this. Getting a policy is not a magic wand. You're not a Disney princess. You are going to have the same job. The same boyfriend like the three weeks that you had off to get the surgery. You're going to go back to your same life right okay. So no that and know that there's going to be a process of getting to know yourself all over again and don't freak out and that the problem is I'm trying to describe. They feel like the period when women will blame their themselves for not having a pleasurable experience. Sexually yes it takes time. You don't get your pathy enure buffing nuts. It's like you're going to have to find time zone minor zone. Nerves need to retire that yeah. That's that's true like for me personally. I I was your twenties. You everything is cute. You WanNa sit on right and then sitting on was just ending empty space and so you finally find the person that you really want to like all right I wanNA groups. I'm like I'm going to figure out my fucking spot right sitting on everybody having the Genitalia. That you've always wanNA fully bussing nuts. No Connection Body you what. She likes exactly. Because then you have to re- you know we're starting off later in life like this women a lot of years to just like adjusted their body literally starting from scratch at like third. I mean my surgery at twenty five so since girls had what ten years on me. So you've been gravy now. I mean I turn bussing. It's so it's like bareback. I'll share back. Busting Har- wasn't until I found a partner who we like really in tune with. That's the thing you can find especially for me as a heterosexual woman who straight men. Sometimes they just WANNA but they're not yes and then you're like what but I found a man who was like in tune with me busting not And then a lake with a flower. When was your first time that you orgasm with a partner it okay so that the Homeland God? This is hilarious because all talk about it so I had my surgery at twenty five and then it was a years of masturbating and getting to know my body and wasn't until I was. I WANNA say thirty one or thirty two. I had had boyfriends before that and they would they would eat me out. I had penetrative sex but I never had like an orgasm like a simultaneous orgasm like a love orgasm like an orgasm that I really counted as until I was about thirty one years old and I met this guy. I was working in a restaurant and we dated for a minute. And you know we've been talking for a while I mean won't name names but this motherfucker took his time and he understood. Allegedly he turned you out. He's turned his patient and he was concerned. Yeah and honestly like had a big old yes that sound effect old deck. Yeah I like I loved we to collectively together use sex toys and you know and we got that we were in a relationship and it was absolutely incredible to be seen and to be heard and to be felt in a way that. I never imagined as a Trans Woman that I would be any of those things but with this guy dot question which is like you know after surgery. My Mind's totally open to all these other sort of like sexual vocabulary when you talk about sex toys of that nature darling and suddenly. I was like you know what to do that. We far with Moore like really insecure bathroom with everything was like no one vanilla missionaries woman. This girl Claire Pearls Pearls. Use me thought that state no no far from it gets a little sex toy. Never done anal. Yeah I mean I'm okay with that are you. Being tried is that the person with has a very massive penis so I have to gear myself to it. The warm okay. So I've done really into it. I mean I've done it but it's advocates about closeness. Try in them closing. It's the ball closes and for me like I would never even have that conversation. I know we had another episode about packing and I was more open to it after I had my surgery because I was more comfortable with my body. In general it wasn't necessarily a men's pleasure points wasn't about them focusing on my genitalia. Right in the part of my it was more about now. It's more about just their pleasure before in my mind. Or what does that mean for me right? What does that mean? I guess you internalizing. I've done it to this is why I'm able to say this I. I've internalized self much of that. Like what does that mean like if I strap it on? What does that mean for me as a woman that makes it less of a woman? I may be so. Do you think that nowadays the way but I think it's more about like I've I've I've strived so much to become a woman is like what does it mean to be a woman to. What does it mean to be a woman and A? Do I want to be like a Charlotte? Join Abi as Samantha. Like I mean less of a woman who fucking Miranda's Big God. No one's a Carey so funny as I've gotten older everyone's like Samantha was like whatever and everyone's fucking Miranda. Nobody wants to be a care. No one Jerry. Goddamn Matt it's fucking mess along Ramon Hustler. Then brewer Mr. Google it anymore. We're going to go to this. Was Your First Orgasm last question. I want to scrape. I went into the name. I WanNa know located now. Eight eating where you with the partners doubt so low oh no your first orgasm advert solo or with partner which as a child again masturbating. Now I mean after surgery after surgery well masturbating so I mean I had my surgery at twenty five. I mean so then probably took I want. I want to be really honest with you. So that the Trans Women who are listening can understand it took I I wanna say I honestly if I remember correctly it took me a good year to get to a point where my body was healed enough that I could enjoy. Come and the young heightened the moment because about Ashby relaxed. The body has to be relax. Took me a good year to heal and get to a point where I could. I'm going to go ahead and say twenty six masturbating origin. Yeah and as you got hard. Oh I mean I really do. That's the funny thing is I do remember that you expect. It's nothing I I do remember having this overwhelming feeling of like I could die now right complex. I've experienced everything that I've needed to as the woman that I've always wanted to be like it's over and then I got that. I got a boyfriend at like he was. I won't say his name band got a lot of sex. Magic you came in Orgasm has power shaved head office. Faulk like yeah we did it all. It was a baby. Ooh before we leave at Jimmy Clinton is still single. Ooh And she's should I not see that'd be great matchmaker? Marvin I'm ready. We've been some magic here. What perverts listening out there have a funny Guy Funny? Dark hair like wool shaved but with the five o'clock shadow. Yeah six made me laugh. Made me laugh in fucked me lovely. That's my program Canneries don't call us again. Thanks stop calling asking for James Number. Jk Jet Katie reference. Listen to my previous episodes reference. And you haven't seen the L word go fuck yourself yourself. Avon so I'm sorry I'm a little drunk. Three south is by wish featuring Fonda featuring featuring I can't I can't wait right now. It's called touch me. Touched me. He was sorry region. Green drink went through to drinking. Yeah I You're listening to allegedly NYC.

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RuPauls Drag Race Season 12 | Episode 3 Ru-Cap

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"Hello Hello Hello and welcome to the RU Paul's drag race recap here on reality. Tv UPS. I'm your host Liana. Boris and we are here to talk about episode. Three of Paul's drag race season twelve now before we get into this mess of an episode of a main challenge. We have some stuff that we really need to discuss. So I'm here as usual with Brent and Amman and as some of you may know we got a lot of feedback on our less last episode mostly regarding our discussion of Cherry Pie and particularly some of Brent's comments on the situation so I think what makes the most sense is. Let me turn this over to rent because I know you have a few things that you'd like to say yes. Hello everybody I'm still here. I'm sure some of you are not thrilled about that. But I'm going to try to win you back. I do want to say a couple of things. I don't know if many of you saw it's I'm sure some of you did. I also posted it in the Patriot. Group on rob has a podcast and also on twitter at one lucky gay but I did post a statement on my perspective on what happens up to the podcast that we did last week and my subsequent apology and it was not an apology in my view that had any qualifications to it. It was just look. I'm sorry I got it wrong. I screwed up. I didn't know what I was talking about. Lincoln in the period If you didn't read this statement quick back story. We recorded that podcasts. Early Sunday morning early for me anyway and I work nights and sleep days and so I got right up and just went right into the podcast and Cherry. Pie had been disqualified about a day before and I read the story in. Amman had sent a group chat and he had sent the statement from the initial victim. Ben Who had posted what he did and I was like. Oh that's that's interesting. I at the time he was by himself so I know exactly what was going to become. And there was also a statement posted about Britta and something that she had allegedly done from somebody who posted on Reddit and had something to say so that air basically everything moved really quickly and then buzzfeed had an article and then I think maybe around the same time Quincy had an article. But I didn't read it and then starring Pie was disqualified and I think I woke up and saw the Cherry Pie disqualified a mindset. She's been disqualified and I was like. Oh my gosh and then I read the article I kinda perused it and I will say that in my view the one thing that probably led me a little bit astray was the title of the article because it said the Cherry Pie disqualified over a catfish allegations which number one. They weren't allegations in my view. They were facts because she admitted to them and number two. It wasn't just cat fishing. Like as I said and I don't know if we talked about this totally unless podcast but like simple cap fishing that you know gay men straight men. Everybody does even if they do on the circle they talk about it on the circle the game show that originally it originated in the UK and was brought over here to the United States. Caffeine is something that a lot of people do when they are trying to hide who they are or they're not comfortable who they are so they hide behind another persona online. Obviously there are a more insidious qualities to cat fishing but a lot of people. Don't do it in a negatively insidious way and. I really thought that this is what had happened here. I thought there were a couple of Horn guys. Who were looking for something and they did something that he shouldn't have on video and and that was it and I didn't really understand the full ramifications of what had happened here and so as is often the case with myself I started talking on my ass and saying things that I was not fully versed on in. I can get away with it sometimes. Like if I'm watching big brother and I'm not there. Everybody has a life and so I don't watch the field twenty four hours a day. I'll miss something and then come back and try to catch up on it and occasionally I get it wrong and this is a case where I really got it wrong and for those of you out there who are listening. I'm really sorry I know to some of you. I sounded really cold and that is not me. I'm not a cold person or an unforgiving person or a non understanding kind of person. I am known for my hot takes and so I definitely default to that. I'm comfortable in that particular area. I think even some people in the art patron group had a problem and this was brought up by one of our patrons who said in the face of all of that why then after the fact did you not realize that. Something was skewed because the day after the podcast was posted. I had some words with some patrons and I was basically like look. This is how I feel and I'm totally fine with how I feel. And if you're not comfortable with it I'm sorry we disagree but at the time I wasn't aware of what had happened. I wasn't aware that these were actual victims. I wasn't aware that the insidious nature of what Cherry Pie had constructed. She had constructed entire universes to get these guys to do things that ordinarily would not do. It was just a an obvious mischaracterization of what had happened. And I was totally in one hundred percent in the wrong and I own that and we've gotten a lot of feedback on how this could have been avoided how it could be avoided in the future. And that's also what I want to talk about but I also want to. I want to hear your guys. Perspective on was going through your head when I was not thing nine right when I was out of my last podcast. A what were you thinking? And what was your perspective on that? Either one of you. Yeah so I guess I can start things off. I think for me. Br you are a really strong personality and I think that you speak with such confidence and you come out with your opinions so strongly and I think I didn't necessarily expect you to engage in victim blaming which I think was probably the thing that took me aback. The most And I think I almost couldn't even respond in the situation because I just felt it felt like such an a- shocking response and to me at the moment inappropriate reaction to what was going on that interest. Just sort of like hell is going on right now like I was just sort of in shock and I think that Amman was able to at least at the time. Explain a little bit more. What was going on but I think for me. It was just a lot of shock and I was frankly taken aback by everything yes I felt similarly. I mean also. I am a little bit new to the to the podcasting streets at least for a permanent position. So there's always a bit of like a new guy thing in the room or you don't want to step on toes and But I also had to deal with just sort of being shocked because I wasn't really sure this is just shocking. To hear you refer to them as fucking idiots and then of course when you explained what happened in how you'd had you weren't entirely up to date on all of the facts which. I mean also I wasn't totally updated and other things. I think I was able to provide a little bit more insight about what was going on but I also had read the articles to the full extent so I was still learning a lot of things even after we were done. The podcast so I think that we're all I think most of us are like in a situation where it's hard because you wanna be. WanNa be WANNA offer up commentary and sometimes shows like this it due to their nature. They end up having discussed social issues. That not any of us are totally professionally qualified. And I'm putting that in air quotes because a million we show with. I mean but we're not always prepared to talk about these types of things so I think that I was just expecting us to handle the situation with a bit more grace so I think I was just sort of like. Oh goodness like how do we? How do we salvage this story without coming off as cold in? I think I mean that some people even called me out to a little bit I mean I think I think you saw this tweet rent about a gentleman tagging me saying you know as a person of color that they were disappointed that I wasn't able to to shut the victim blaming shut down and you know what I mean fair I mean. I think that there's A. There's a shortcoming there in us that at the end of the podcast like please feel like I'm overstepping. Just let me know. You're a very resilient person you're able to take critique so duly noted in the future. I would definitely try my best to show step in when I feel like I need to. That's something I said to you. That's something that said to you after the podcast. So I I WANNA make sure people understand like we had this podcast and then I said to Amman. After because I don't want to ever feel like number. One is a person of color and number one as a new person to the podcast that you can't come for me because I am. I'm I'm totally capable of of people coming for me and this I was. I also wanted to talk about this as well that something that I'm having to wrap my head around is the fact that I am assis- white male and I have never felt like assists white male even though I am like growing up as an other because I was always in other when I grew up I was I was never in the in crowd. I was never one of the people that was just one of the normal people. I was always the FAG. So you grow up as an other and you realize okay. I'm a minority. I'm I'm not like everybody else. So you go through life as a minority when you're looking at the exit polls from the presidential election you're looking at the way they divided people up and you know how did. How did the whites vote? How did African Americans vote? How did issue American's vote? I'm always looking okay. So what did the gays thing as vote in this election? I was always proud of the fact that in like two thousand twelve. I think the heterosexuals were like forty. Nine forty nine. But it was the queer soo-sung it swung for President Obama so I was like. Oh yes. I was so excited about owning my minority hood but then I it's sort of tough to wrap your head around the fact that even though you view yourself as a minority that other people may be more they might have a different experience than you and this was the person who tweeted both of us a mine and pointed this out that I have gone through life as a gay man and thus I view myself as a minority but at the end of the day I am assist white male and thus I basically he was asking me to check my privilege and of course my initial reaction to that was how dare you like. I mean like I've went through life as somebody who's been marching in the streets for gay rights. Since the beginning of the time I've marsh for civil rights. I voted for it. I've I've encouraged people to vote for it. I've organized for it. Like how dare you but then I take a step back from that in thinking to myself do. It's not about me and what I think it's about people like yourselves. People like Yuliana. Who is a woman people like you? A man who is a game in a person of color who are perhaps less privileged than I what do you think and how do you feel podcasting with me? I want you all to feel as though you are totally equal footing with me. I know that I have a strong personality but I want both of you know from the bottom of my heart that I don't carry any privilege with me on this podcast and I think it's also a little bit weird because even though I'm maybe the most quote unquote privilege person on the podcast. But also I'm the most tenured person on the podcast as well. I've been here the longest and I am fully aware of the fact that not at the. No one is irreplaceable. Everybody is totally replaceable. In my eyes including myself but I just want everybody podcast with to feel as though they have an equal voice in the discussion. And I don't want to ever dominate that and make you feel like you are unprovoked to bring your perspective to the podcast and check my dumb ass. If I say something in the future do is that who you guys. At the time I can speak from my perspective that again Brent. You whether or not. It's because you are assessed white male. I don't know but you do speak very confidently and you speak with such conviction in the things that you believe that I think. Sometimes when you're having a discussion with other people to the person on the receiving of the discussion sometimes it doesn't necessarily feel like a discussion. It feels like I'm brand. I'm telling you what the truth is. And so then I think that that's sometimes how it comes across and I think that I because I've known you now for a while and I've known that that's not how you mean it. I know that you are capable of having a discussion but I think because of the way that it comes across and because of the way that you speak it can be aggressive at times. I mean I just mega mega clear that like I don't. I've never felt in my entire experience with Rha in general. I've never felt as if I could not come on the show into exactly what I wanted to say. I've never felt like a member felt like that anybody. Has You know been trying to forcefully control a narrative for any podcast that I have been a part of so. It's a little bit interesting to have the word privilege attached to this particular situation with the podcast. Because when I think of privilege I just think generally about how someone is able to have access to spaces where some people don't have access to a certain perspective that some people just don't have and then try and color color the world with their brush because those are the those are the experience they've had completely disqualifying other experiences and. I don't think that you were intentionally trying to do that. So I feel a little bit weird with using the word privilege when it retains to this situation so maybe I guess what this person that was tagging if I forget his name but I guess what he was John Kerry his name was John. You WANNA call him on. The Pike is necessarily. Because I'm not I want to thank him. I actually followed him on instagram. After the fact because he's an honest feisty individual and he let me have it and I really appreciated that like I was like I want more people like this in my life who are willing to check my ass. You know what I mean because I don't have a lot of people in my life my perspective. My parents were pretty hands off because I was an independent person and my partner is more like He. I've always called J my angel. But he's never checked me. You know what I mean and so I don't have anybody like that in my life to be able to check me so I I enjoy being challenged and I don't much like it win. I say what I say and everyone just accepts that I. That's I think that's why get along. So well Attaran because he can come back at me with a forceful opinion and he really doesn't give a fuck what I say you really does. And he'll just totally just missing out of hand or he'll examine what I said no Brent. You're wrong but I want to make sure that everybody feels that way and I'm on. I hear what you're saying about that. You don't think that that's my intent. But as I have learned over the past year and a half to two years since the METOO movement began and we've been having these discussions. I don't know that intend necessarily matters. I mean it's more about your feeling and Leon us feeling in anybody I- podcast with fuelling my intense. I feel like as noble. I know my heart's I know what it is but I don't know that that intent actually matters I feel like more. I should more concentrate on making sure that everybody feels like that. They I- Liana said really struck me in that ice. Speaking confident way in rob has always said that though he enjoys having me on the podcast because I always have an opinion but that cuts both ways. If I'm if I always have an opinion to the point where other people don't feel like they can then address their opinion because they feel like I've said the truth and I'm not open to another perspective. Then that's probably a problem so I guess that's going to be my my job to try to thread the needle as much as possible. Well and I think Amman kind of touched on it with his discussion of privilege and say dismissing the opinions and experiences of others because I think sometimes it comes across. Like you have a lack of empathy brandt on with some of the discussions because you are so opinionated right like you have your opinion and you feel strongly about your opinion and so sometimes it doesn't and. I know that you can do this but sometimes it definitely feels like oh. I'm going to dismiss the opinions of others because they do not align with the way that I feel about the situation in so dismissing the victims in this situation You know like we're such idiots right exactly which you know you have apologize for but I think in that moment even just recognizing look what you can even phrase it in a way. That's not just like they're fucking idiots. It's like look. I think that what they did was super naive. I think that they fell for it right instead of like piling on and so I think that sometimes that can also come across In the discussions. That makes it feel like you. Maybe have privilege because you were just speaking in such dominant way dismisses the opinions of the feelings of others. I mean the fact that this conversation is even taking place anyway. I just want like listeners. To know that like this all happened and it was like a bit of a whirlwind. Everything that was going on by Brent was very as soon as he began to understand what was going on and how misinformed about the situation he was reaching out to Leon and I and asking US everything everything that we thought ran through with that entire apology before he sends it out and everything so I just wanted to the fact that this conversation is happening. And you're willing to take this self examination and do this work to to to check your privilege. I mean I feel like I feel like there's so many people that are that are privileged. That would not do that to not to not to give you a golden star being a decent human being. I'm just saying like there are a lot. There are a lot of people that do not do things like this and I feel like if there's anything that you should at least I don't go without being said is that you are doing the work to rectify the wrong to let people know. Hey I got this wrong and in the end for me like I can feel comfortable going forward on the podcast because I mean I also feel like I've known you for quite a while so when while it was happening I was like I feel like I know Brent's heart and I feel like he might be calling these people fucking idiots right now and it's really really bad and he really should not have done that but I felt like because of the fact that I know you a little bit more then more people most people that might I just felt like this was just a bad business decision on your part you know what I mean like I feel like I don't know I can feel comfortable going forward in this podcast with you because I just feel like you're the type of person that will do the work if they want to. You know what I mean so Well and I think also again we talked about this at the end of last week's podcast. This is all a discussion and the fact that you can be open to hearing us. Give Amman space to feel like we can talk. Feel like we can share. And we're listening to you to you know like this is a two way street. I think we all need to be open to listen to each other. And when somebody messes up and they apologize listened to that apology you know like I genuinely feel like we're all moving forward. We're all learning and we're trying to make the most of the situation and I think that that's all you can do. That's all you can really strive to do. And this makes me like this warms my heart to be able to sit here and to have this conversation with the two of you so I really appreciate. I really appreciate your walk. I'm glad I'm glad I'm able to provide that for you The last thing that I wanted to touch on was the fact that some of the patrons felt like that. You guys don't feel comfortable podcasting with me and now it's probably the thing that I really was like. I got my claws out for that one because I was like. I know like we only has known me forever and I. I've been with them on. I met Amman like I wanted to make sure because I just want you guys to know and I want the listeners to know that even though like I was the first person to go to Rob Rob and say look we need to podcast repulsed drag race and even though we didn't like a one off at the time but it didn't come to fruition right away until Mike Blum was on board and then we decided to do it and we did it with Alli I remember we after allies step down. Then we brought the onboard. And we've had a great time since then but I just want to just want people to know that. Just because I brought rules drag race to rob as a podcast doesn't mean that I view myself as indispensable to the podcast. There may be a world where I am. Not a part of this podcast for reasons that we've talked about or or maybe I'm not maybe my particular brand of podcasting and I am a firecracker I do like to let people have it maybe Rupaul. Drag race has grown so much that maybe this isn't the best home for me. Maybe trashy little takes great over at big brother because of the kind of show that is but you know. Maybe maybe repulsed drag race. Isn't it and so I am what Leon An and I have talked about is the fact that we're going to continue to do this season. We're going to do a tour of the best of our ability to listen to people and if at the end of the season I determined that I am not being used in the way that I feel like I could be useful to rob his podcast. Because here's the here's the thing at the end of the day. I Love Rob Sister Nino okay. I Love Robin podcast. Give me so much love and light in my life. I just want to represent it the best that I can and if I feel like I'm doing harm to that then I feel like that specific. Podcast probably doesn't need to have me so we're going to move ahead and see how things go but I just want you to know that. Basically I'm I feel like I'm in a little bit of a holding pattern. I just WanNa make sure that I can bring something to the table. That is worthwhile and that people enjoy. I do not want to be problematic on a podcast to the point where people no longer listen. I totally get what. You're what you're coming from. I think that we're in a very unique position because of the fact that we podcast about reality television and as as as all of us are gaining this newer level of social consciousness. Irt Right now with all of these only words that people like to throw around. I'm not trying to sound dismissive. When I said I'm just saying I think that these types of conversations when situations happen like peas on reality television shows. We're all trying to have these conversations all together at the same time some of us with varying degrees of of experience with these situation. So I just feel like it's a learning situation for all of us and it's not gonna it's not gonna go anywhere because reality. Tv is going to stick around and people are going to continue to be privileged or underprivileged in these conversations are going to persist so. I just think that it's just I I hear what you're saying and I would hope that you. I just think I just think that the very fact that you that you're even thinking that this might be something that might not be for you because you're not sure what you be what you would be bringing to it. I just think that within itself as a good sign like I just I don't know I just I just don't want you to be too hard on yourself while a while what you did was a gross gross relapsing in a wooded area. There are so many people that get to make these kinds of fuck ups and not on a public forum. And maybe that goes mortar. Like I can't believe that you would even go with do that on a public forum but like there are so many people that are having conversation private and get get the luxury of not being exposed to a bunch of people so just be aware. Just be aware of the fact that you are probably going to be you. Get your experience the backlash because you're opening yourself up to the backlash while some people don't have to do that and they're able to keep the trash s opinions and be trash people but I just wanted that. That's what you're trying to do so and I think I think right. This conversation happening because of what fucking Cherry Pie did is just a prime example of like the fact that we're all learning how to talk about it together so it's just how I feel about it. Yeah I think we're all learning how to. How do we talk about it? And how do we handle these types of situations you know? I think the self-reflection from Brenda's is really great. You know to think about okay. Let me actually address the situation and not either run and hide or just fight back unnecessarily you know. I think that those are really admirable qualities and I think it's something that I really WanNa do not always very good at it but you know I. I want to address everything that's going on and you know that for me also comes from sort of my immediate reaction to hearing the Sherry Pie News. I was like never. We'll never speak her name doth never say again. You know I was like so done but then I had some people reach out and be like well. You know that you're dismissing some of the work that the amazing costume designers did not talking about her outfits. You know so I think that recognizing like okay I had this immediate reaction Now let's talk about it. Let's think about it so I'm actually. I WanNa talk better outfit this week and it was me by an amazing designer. You know I'm and and so I don't know this is all it's all evolving. It's all conversation. We're all trying to move forward and be like the best. You know supportive people that we can only agree. Okay Yeah thank you. I appreciate you guys taking the time to have a half hour conversation about my my fuck up last weekend. Were how I'm going to move forward but I really. I got something out of that and I hope that the listeners also got something out of that so thank you guys honestly just let one last thing like honestly like I of course just like because there's the kinds of conversations happen. I feel like there are a lot of because we're so expect we're just entrenched in cancel culture right now. I just think that it is such a such an immediate and common reaction if he will be done with it and just throw people away and like I do think that there are. There are times in that is supposed that the appropriate reaction to have sometimes but not all of time and I just feel like this show more than anything should be a place for us to be able to learn it and not because I because I can already just see that. I'm probably going to get some mentions here like I'm on you. Were over there like over there. Being a coon because people people have called me that before for trying to you know have a conversation rather than cancel and like that's like that's the place that I always like to come come from and I feel like you can only you can only punish people when they are showing that they do not want to learn from their behavior and what I am seeing from something that was somebody that wants to learn and while maybe maybe somebody else might just be like no fuck that trash reaction which trash militant to the show anymore. You're perfectly fine to do that. I just want people to understand where I'm coming from so it before you happen. Mentions and try and call me some person. Kuhnen for the white man like please like I've heard of before a girl. That's not where I'm coming from this and best believe if brand continues to be fucking up then. I don't have a conversation about it again. You know what I mean so like. That's just horrible from so yeah well thank you. Thank you both again for the for the discussion and actually this brings me something. I wanted to talk about Actually regarding Sherry so I saw this on read it. I guess maybe like a week ago. Now but essentially the post was all about how in their opinion the show should keep Sherry and her favourable. Edit any wins she may have because it's important to keep the because people need to understand that predators can be successful charming and charismatic. It's really easy for society to Imagine Sexual Predators as monsters in the closet or creeps. You jump out of the shadows but often sexual predators or people who are in positions of power people who are well like people who are successful and win. And they cite the example of the victims of Harvey Weinstein Kevin Spacey. And so this is an opportunity to say look. This person is like bold judges. Love them she comes across his charming. She can easily fool people into thinking that she's great but that's not mutually exclusive with being a sexual Predator so I thought that that was actually a really interesting perspective and I think it kind of goes on to what you were saying about cancelled culture where it's like it's so easy to just be like no and I think even my my personal opinion is like no. I don't want to talk about her but I think that that viewpoint is actually really interesting and I think it's something to really think about because it's so easy. We live in a world where things are black and white and it's so easy to just demonize somebody and just be like no like they're all bad everything they do is bad bad bad bad bad bad whereas the people who commit these types of crimes exist and can flourish in our culture and so recognizing that like no these things are not mutually exclusive. I think is important. So anyway I thought that that was a really interesting perspective and I wanted to bring it up on our podcast so I'm curious for either one of you. How you feel about how the show has since handled Sherry pies at it because on the season Premiere episode for the second half of the cast. We got a lot of Sherry Pie and we got a lot of narration from her. In fact I thought she was going to be the seasons narrator because they went to her so much and of course that episode was already in Showbiz terms in the CAN. It was already ready to go in sent out so the affiliates and ready to go on. Wow so we saw a ton of sharing pie however that changed this week and it wasn't until about fifteen minutes into the episode that I realized. Oh they're not showing cherry pies confessionals anymore. They have obviously decided. This is the way we're going to go. And I thought it worked out really really well until about the last ten minutes of the episode where it felt a little weird tonight here the winner having a confessional about the fact that she just wants so. I enjoy their take on. I'm not sure if you guys agree with that though Don or I. I think that this is pretty much the best thing that they can do. I mean because you obviously already. We know that they can't cancel the season. Like because then you're screwing the rest of the girls that are already being doubly screamed because they can't even make money right now considering what's going on with the corona virus they just got a really bad. Yeah but yeah I was reading Dalia sins interview with you about that and that was something I never even thought about. Everybody being affected which which on that note by their merchandise tip them on ven Mo- I know. Jinx monsoon is promoting a bunch of Queens. Like stores up so even though and there's like somebody is doing. Where did I see that somebody is doing a twitch stream drag show like support support support you? Yes exactly because these queens are dependent on this stuff but anyway sorry I don't believe i. I think it's the best thing that they can do. Just you know always. You can't editor all the way but you can at least do your best to mute her but it will be a bit weird when whenever she does perform well and we don't get to see her. You know congratulate herself. But I'd much prefer that over just like this had the added of Cherry Pie. Because that's GONNA make everybody feel even more uncomfortable so I just say you know pat on the back when when you're supposed to but other than that you know there's plenty of Queens. That are great to be narrators so right I feel like the show does have a bevy of personalities. Leon to be able to lean on in place of Cherry Pie. Yeah and that's why for me. I mean the the other queens are just so good this season and so it definitely didn't feel lacking didn't feel like Oh there's a hole in this episode and I will say one of the reasons why I had such an emotionally negative response to talking last week on the podcast was because I had to see this person give so many confessionals and do so many jokes and be you know the narrator of that and this didn't bring me that same negative emotional response. I don't know if that's because a little bit more time has passed or because even though it's still kind of makes me cringe a little bit to see her. So I think that this was a really good decision and major props to the editors who are getting this done like this easy. Oh my God like they're having to essentially re edit the entire season because based on that first or second episode. I think a lot of the narrative was surrounded. Cherry Pie so it was a good thing that they make them dress up in confessionals because they can really just come put that Alpha back on all those confessionals like if I were them. I'd be like okay I'll be the narrator for the season like what you want me to do. I'll clogged competition again. Yeah Yeah it was weird in the final critiques to all the comments. Cherry Pie was there. Were about the group. Your group did this. Your group did not and that was very clearly an editing choice. And I think it's for the best all right. Let's get in to this episode. This freaking mess a mess mess. Assode I don't even know this. This may main challenge was just so. I can't wait to talk about it. But we kick things off with the two groups of girls meeting from episode one and episode. Do of course you have that initial standoff but then they get into lots of hugging and I think I get my favorite quote from the whole episode when they ask. Heidi how you know how she's doing. She says blessed and highly favored. But I think I'm definitely going to start a using that for sure. But this very much lay drag race survivor style Brent like felt like they were two tribes. That were still. There's still some tension tension between them and I think that comes out throughout this episode. Yeah and I think it would've worked a little bit better except some of the Queen's already know each other like there's so many New York queens that of course there were some on the first cast and someone the second cast and so when they come together and they're trying to give each other dirty stink you know. Then they're like. I hate girl how you doing like I just saw last week so I thought it worked pretty well but it was definitely fun to see some of the real tension that was there with Heidi for instance. I thought she is. She somebody who really likes her peeps also aiden Zane. I thought well somebody else who was really partial to the group that she liked and she came in with initially or than anybody else. All right. Yeah I'm on. Did you have anything you want? I mean I sort of feel I'm like I don't know how I feel about this whole group thing I don't know like I mean I'm here for did it feel like it's sort of just like okay girls like you guys came into separate groups that you're going to throw some shade but it's going to be like a theme of this season because eventually are going to organic closed and then. I I don't know I'm sort of like. Can we just move on to look you guys? He's hitting each other individually and not having party lines. I just wanted to individuals I talked to. Yeah Yeah I think I think we'll definitely get there all right. So now what we get our next day in the workroom where we get the ranking of the tops and the Bottoms Aka the strongest. To the weakest where the two winners from episodes one and two widow and Jada have to rank everybody. So I don't know if y'all thought that these rankings were valid Amman but we had widow ranking sh The order was sharee has the strongest Jan Dali Rock and eight in which in that moment made me realize how much stronger the other group was. But then we had Jada rank. Gee-gee Britta Nikki. Jackie Crystal Heidi which again I realize. How Strong Link Group? But ultimately they end up breaking up into four groups with four different. I guess themes is what I would call it yes. Yeah it was Improv prompts. I felt like okay. Yeah IMPROV PROMPTS. Okay so we get widow. Nikki and crystal which are the Squirrel Sisters Jada Jan Rock and Dalia? Which are the fruity Patootie. Is Heidi Jackie and G G? Who are the del Rio triplets and Hayden Eight in Sherri Britta? Who are the three girls one brain so I think it just makes the most sense to just go through and talk about each of these groups one at a time? One that you want to start with I mean I feel like we have to start with the first group. The Jackie Cox led group of the three old bitches with Heidi clause and by the way. Let's just talk about this really quickly. I do not have a name. I do not have a problem with hiding closets name. I love that name name. I like it. The only the only small quibble that I have is I feel like her. Last name should be duck laws it so it's so it's Heidi Heidi in the closet because that rolls off the tongue whereas Heidi in closet like nobody says that. So that's why I'm like. The last name needs a little work but I don't want her to be. Heidi Hoe is on. You already made Jan earn to Jan and you're getting rid of filter like now you're like I just feel like she's being so hard on her for this name and it's like it's a great. It's the least thing i WanNa talk about. I don't care about that. I Love Heidi's personality. I love her funniness. I love her jokes. I love her for Improv. I love some of her outfits. I just want to talk about everything but that so yes I love this first group and in fact I was a little spoiled because I feel like the first group went so well that as we went along it got progressively worse from my perspective. From some of the Queen's. I thought that they were right in that. Heidi I don't WANNA say. She carried this group of without her energy there. I don't know if this group would have been as successful as they ultimately were. Jackie who is the Queen was with them G G good associate G G good was the dead Quyen. Basically got falling asleep on and Jackie was like the ventriloquist like moving. Her mouth and Jackie's energy was also great also remember. Jeez Jeez to me was was great in this episode but it was about her runway rather than her performance necessarily in the challenge. But I loved this group and I was really Kinda bummed at how you didn't win but that's probably how I feel about Cherry Pie in general that. I didn't want her to win. I wanted Heidi the wind and I knew it was going to be the one of the two of them. Okay first of all the fact that Ryu hate Heidi's name so much I just want to go back to that because it's insane to me really even took the time to explain the way that your mouth has to change from a Heidi is like a big problem girl down. Stop hiding but I'm on. What did you think of their performance? I liked it. It was a it was a great little. I've been on the podcast before when we've talked about Improv challenges and they are hard. Okay like Improv is so hard at that people really understand just how weighty of a person that you have to be over person that you have to be. Because I mean Jackie had a riley number. One rule of Improv is always yes. And you just have to be able to go along with whatever the parameters of the Improv scene are and just have fun you get to stiffen the minute you start being overly analytical is when the whole thing just goes goes to shit okay so I feel like I feel like part of what made it easier for them to sort of rid of one. Another was the fact that there were only two because one of them was dead. So it's sort of like gave a bit of room to you know make you chose here and there but that would that be. They had rhythm with that being said I still feel like Gee Gee even as a dead bitch. She was still giving you. She was still clearly present. I never felt like I was just being dragged along until the very end when they literally dragged her out of the room but I know she dragged him into the room but Yeah I think it was a and I think it was a it was a nice team. It was good team. They they all I feel like they had like a really succinct theme. Or they're a little act sweet. It is during the show is like the fact that they have a dead bitch in their group whilst ordination is a third judge just like pure gay synchrony like. It's just like how does that happen. Oh my God I thank you so much for bringing that up. I was living for that. I love the fact because most of the time they were showing just Ross and Charo who we haven't talked about who is great in this challenge but also oh my God the fact that our nation was there and who was that was that Munib doing the voice for Orange was it. I think it was vivacious. I don't know but the audio quality was still in college. Flip phone like a higher quality mic acceptance. I felt like Latrice. And is this the trees trying to be by vase and they couldn't get vicious going to make the audio quality bad. That's what I thought. I thought it was Latrice as vivacious aby as like mortified if allegations like a part of the episode. Where we'd like our miss naming the queen's yeah exactly like we pick the wrong queen But yeah in Charleston Ross. Okay so look I think. The best improvs like improvising. That happened was probably Ross. In general this whole But I will say that the del Rio trio was probably the best of the four again. Best does not mean good. Best is a relative term referring to the rest of them. Because these were these were very cringe-worthy. There were a few times that I laughed. And one of them was during Their skit which is when raw said that Blanca which was G G goods character was a dead ringer for Carol. Channing and then Jaggi goes brass Barry Ventriloquist something that actually made me laugh out loud dot and when Heidi was like taking a church this time and she just started like breaking it down. I thought that that was really funny. I thought the only thing honestly was that the weekend at Bernie's bit maybe started too early like you could have started later to give G G. A little bit more play but to be honest. I liked this one the best out of all of them. Yeah okay well I guess yeah. Let's see so we can. I WanNa talk about whatever I guess. We'll just go in order to talk about some squirrel sisters. So these were the Girl Scout Supposedly Girl Scout ask characters of widow Nikki and crystal crystal with her elder barge. Hair Which roosting rhythm of the night in the workroom was something that was hilarious. I would've loved to have heard how awkward that was without the background music but anyway so we don't Akin Crystal or coming to at US coming to us from camp. Bang Aho Brandt. What did you think about these ladies? Thought this was widow and nobody else talk that Nikki and crystal. We're pretty terrible. They had no rhythm. They were awkward at various times for reasons. Nikki because I feel like maybe there is a little bit of a language barrier there and I feel for her. Although I don't necessarily agree that the show is like just be like Charro and just like friendship and not to be funny and I'm like like like if she did that would they. Really then except maybe they would. I don't know but I felt like they were talking on both ends of their mouth when they were judging. I'm crystal method. I feel like it was way over her head. Like I love her as a queen. She's fun she's spicy. But my God I through this entire episode she definitely was the weakest in fact. I I actually did feel like she was worse than Dolly. And I feel like I've listened to dollars interviews after the fact and how crystal should have been in the bottom and I kind of agree crystal should have been in the bottom. Rupaul chose who she did but widow von do was so spectacular. And this challenge. I mean like if they were judging by teams widow would have been the one from the team that was definitely safe because she was. She just had as a natural energy about her then. It's funny and she owns her shit like there were a couple of really corny jokes in a couple of really corny puns. Where she said them and they were definitely like. Oh they were gr worse they were like. Oh God but she owned him so well there was so funny and so yeah I it was widow and nobody else. I think it always serves you. Well when you choose something specific I mean they said it in the in the during the judging panel like because of the fact that widow had a steak she had the flask. She obviously likes to eat food. You had a barbecue stain on her sash. Like all of those things are really really help you. Because it's something that because in a situation like improv where everything is up in the air if you have things to ground you in a character that's always going to work well like Mickey Doll and crystal method. Just didn't have that like they were just where girl scouts and we suck why they. I think they had descriptions one was the pretty one and one was the sexy one because Nikki wanted to be the drunk one. But even then if you're going to be the sexy one I could not tell you which one was the sexy one. But if you're GONNA play sexy play it up like just go all out like with the nut butter especially like lick. The you know the like you really be central. Unsexy be like the Broccoli Ali. I was trying to realize fully realized like sexy scowl. You know I just. I felt like there was so much that Nikki and crystal could have done. So yeah I Bryan. I totally agree with you. This was the widow show. I thought she was so funny. Yeah they were. They should have been more like jinx monsoon in Alaska awards. You guys remember the Ad Challenge from season five where they had to make their own ads and it was like read. Read like jinx was delusion. Yeah exactly so like they. They had these things where they were obviously not sexy but they made them so sexy and I really do feel like that. If Nikki doll and crystal had been able to Nikki Donald specifically it'd be able to channel that a little bit more it would have been more successful than what ended up happening especially you're selling a product which I think they were supposed to be on like some weird version of shark tank. I don't know this was like a rally a weird duck and as rock described. Tv Show you have a product. It's called nut butter. Those sexual innuendoes literally right themselves. You know what I mean like. Go all four fine anyway. So yeah that was this for all sister is I. Don't I don't even know what else to say. I think. What does this is barbecue sauce? Line again probably my favorite of this group. Because to be honest there just wasn't much else to say and I think crystal even acknowledged when she messed up the very beginning like ooh like this is not going to be good and widow also vocalized afterwards. Where if this is Team Challenge? We are screwed. You know like nerve metaphor for how this could be judged like. I even recognized that. This is a disaster. Okay let's move on to our fruity. Pa- Tutti is a monness is Jada Rock Dalia and Jan just Janna and they are like the fruit of the loom character. This was just so strange to me. I really don't feel like any of them really. Did that. Good of a job even Jan like I think I think. The best thing edgy and did was when she covered for for Dahlia and called her a Broccoli. Ashley laughed at that but other than that everything else just seemed so canned to me. You know what I mean it just I I just wasn't you don't feel like rocking did good. I rocker pretty good during this challenge as the orange even though she didn't want to be the orange and there was a whole lot about she wanted to be the bad avalanche. She went like she wanted to steal from from Jada. Jd WanNA give it up. And then ultimately she got the orange. And I felt like I mean it was good. It was a good job. Of course like putting all of those puns in there. I think that was a good a good touch but I just felt like conceptually. I just didn't understand because halfway through it. They were like supposed to. They were supposed to not be gay but they were pretending to be gay because their fruits. And I'm like what? What is the through line here? I don't understand any of this at all. I'm not sure that you did either. I'm not even totally assured that that's the way the skit was supposed to go. Like got some Improv prompts. At the beginning and Ross decided to taken in that direction I felt like a lot of their successes and fails basically dependent on what Ross decided to say and how he decided to interact with them. Don't you think Liana Hill know? I honestly don't because they have the bad apple. Come in. It wasn't a bad apple like they're not gay so I came from the bat out. That's true us. Oh yeah this was really interesting to me. I enjoyed all of the fruit puns. The the brock ally line. Let's you mentioned I thought was really great and it was great and he and he totally dismissed that too. I thought it was funny. And the Orange rockets line about how many doctors do. I have to eat day. If you away I was really funny. Yeah and then I thought Dali is lying about like. Take your stem out of my face. Awkward Pause then she just like runs out with her like stock. I thought it was actually really funny. I mean it was awkward. Funny reminded me. It's so many Lao was so mad at Dalian for not using because when when Ross called her out for not being fruit I was like just say. I'm a bit of a stalker. I can't help myself which he didn't say I was so mad. I thought it was so obvious but I guess not right. You're like Friday night quarterback in their case lamb and she she still doesn't know who Bob Fosse is so we're talking months after she got booted off the show so I don't don't think this is somebody that really cares. She's so pretty though. Oh my God. She's so pretty I watch sure so. She recreated her look. She doesn't tutorial on. Wow on the youtube channel which was really good. She's just so but yeah I didn't I didn't mind. I mean it was a mess and it was really awkward and Super Kranji but like I was laughing cringing where I was like more board at the squirrel sisters so I guess if I had to rank them of these three I guess I would say the del Rio triplets. Which by the way so at first I was like. Oh It's just a joke that Bianca del Rio is old. But then it was a reference to the del Rubio triplets was like that American like folk group of triplets performed cover versions of songs. Anyways those weird joke within a joke I guess but anyway yeah I would say the del Rio trio then the gay fruits and the squirrels rank the three. That would be my order. I I would agree with that. Okay yeah okay all right well. Let's talk about our last group. Then the three girls one brain skit so that was aiden Sherry Pie and Ridha rent and apparently they got hit by lightning and now they only have one brain. So I'm going to be real with you guys this one. I thought I was GONNA hate the most but and it took a while to get off the ground but once it did it was right up there. With the del Rio sisters in terms of my L. O. L. ING at this challenge. And my obvious like I was gleeful. At how funny this was and but the thing was I felt like Ross was helping them so much. Rob Ross was such a big part of this specific that I almost didn't know how to judge it. Because he was like just like I'm GonNa give you some tests to see and and his and his cadence when he walked up to them and looked at them and said I'm going to slap you and if you have one brain like and they're lookin' and like so much tablets. Ross so yes they did a great job but I felt like Ross wasn't overly big part of this but like I said once it got off the ground. I felt like this was probably along with the Del. Rio Sisters the funniest skit of the Bunch. Because they had such a natural there was never any awkward parts to this challenge. It was fully realized it was a fully realized concept in a way where it felt like I was watching an actual skit. That had been prepared and rehearsed. Even though a lot of it was Improv. So Kudos to these queens. They all did a great job. Amman did you feel the same way. It did take a long time to get off the ground and a lot of cut you off but at the beginning when they were doing the where three with one and I'm like they they they can't stand the reason why it took so long to get off the ground was because of that bullshit and I was like Oh my God really like I get it. It's funny but this is this. I'm working too hard for this joke. Like come on what? I do think that it was a saints group together. I got the concept it was it was it was nice. It was it was everything made sense and I kind of disagreed with the whole thing. Afterwards when Sherry and Brennan are getting on Zane at Aden again I would have to fucking protect my sis. Eight in what do you want from our? She engaged in the in the skit with the both she was doing everything that you guys were doing quite literally because that's what the way that it was set up and when you guys were mad because you you guys. Britta is so full of herself. Cherry Pie obviously too but like they are so full of themselves. I mean they may be stronger. Queens aiden Zane fine but Aidan Jane. Well how do you? How do you pronounce his Zane Agency? I'm sorry I apologize but like God damn it. This was so awkward to watch them come to her say basically like accuser of picking well like she picked to release strong. Queens. And they're like well. Aren't you just going to be like this every time that we're we're not going to be there save you like shit? Take several seats bread. I don't WanNa hear it. I was not responding well to this. Oh Yeah I didn't either. I really hated it. The lines like oh well. You didn't lead us. We carry and then Aden's like bitch. I know like I bet you because you were strong queens. And then the whole thing about eight hundred was like look. I'm not going to focus on these queens constructive criticism which got me thinking if Britta and Cherry Pie actually wanted to help. Aiden help her. Pick out a different WIG. Tell her hey. Maybe don't wear a sweater with bows on it down the runway. Let her borrow one of your wigs. Maybe some shoes. You know like hope that way. Like don't come for her because she you know she didn't quote unquote lead. You like you guys are strong. She listened to your opinions and I didn't think she did that bad. Was she a complete stand out? No but like I would have put crystal below her so you know like I. I don't know I really didn't get it. I really didn't get they were coming from and Britta is super full of herself and that definitely came out on this episode especially in the beginning. She's like Oh you hold these New York Queens Abbott. I'm the one to be. It's a confidence that's unattractive and so I was not not happy to see that but you know what we're talking about her so she's making first TV and then just to go back to give my opinion about the three girls one brain. It was a little tough to watch because it was so slow but upon the watching it. The second time actually laughed a lot more because like I got it. I got going for and I could get. Why Ross was laughing because they cut cutting to Ross Charro during their whole skit and Ross's racking Johnson clearly like it was funny in the moment and I didn't realize that it was like that it was a scam. If you knew it was a scam then you'd be laughing because you know that there is coming soon. I'm trying to act like they're three girls one rain but no they're not really so at but at the beginning. I really thought they were three girls one brain. I was like Oh okay. So that's what they are going to be talking like this the entire time. If I had known what was coming I would have laughed a lot suit right right and one on the whole point win. They like aid in. Britain are still trying to. We are two girls. I came out I was so so so funny so good. Oh that was great. I'M GONNA GONNA GO WATCH THAT AGAIN. Though it's like the end of that scale was so good word to girl all right so before we get into talking about our runway. Let's take a quick break to hear a word from our sponsors and we are back Let's see so before we run into the runway is this. Did you guys have anything you wanted to say about? Sort OF MIRROR SEGMENTS DALIA. Sin Has a twin which is a fun thing to say but I- decay I completely embracing the fact that I loved all your sin all like just for superficial reasons. I mean she's pretty girl the fact that she has a twin to that long list of superficial reasons because the thought of two dollars sins is just like it. I was like ooh And I love the fact that she's a little selfish about her drag now. He's talking to me like he wants to do drag but like I've been doing it for six months and I'm like no that's my thing you can have your thing. And he and he was like girl I wanted to do drag but of course he doesn't say girl because he doesn't talk like that so I'm trying to imagine these two twins trying to get along and how one it's been out of the closet for like six months longer than the other one so he's already fully embraced himself whereas the other one is just like. He's a baby coming out of the closet. There was a time when I came out of the closet for like two weeks to my first two weeks and I didn't talk. I did not do now the confidence that I do now. I still think the scare little closeted boy who had just recently come out of the closet. I was trying to embrace myself but I couldn't do it. So I fully like I got both sides of the coin with her confidence and also with her brother and his curiosity about what drag offers for. Wasn't it was a bit of an interesting story here that I bought like? He came out to his mom and applebee's and then like but his brother was like you know when. I leave me the fuck out of. That could just couldn't do it but it's like just so sweet and just like you know sort of like this is a reminder that everybody you know moves at different paces even if you are identical to them genetically so it was it was. It was nice that she got to share that with us. I was I was. I was totally expecting when she was home. The story about how he eventually did come out and her mom was like. Finally I was told as we heard. Say Like Oh damn well I guess I'm not having any grandkids. But she said finally instant which was a bit of a relief so yeah I I thought that was really great and it was cool to hear that their mom is completely accepting. Because I think a lot of times you hear coming out stories on the show that aren't necessarily as positive and so it's just always nice to hear that there are families that love and that connects up people and twins. Just the way they are. That would be my dream by the. Way TO HAVE GAY twins. Okay so I don't know if the universe has it in store for me that would be a MAS ing. I love all my children equally. But if they're gay twins like especially like that. Oh my God I just want Gorgeous Davies. Okay it's all I want in life all right. Well speaking of people who are gorgeous. Olivia Munn was our guest. Judge this episode on our runway. Here Amman did you have any thoughts about her is Augusta. Who IS AND? That's not just shoes on scandal right okay. Well she she was might be wrong. Oh my God is the name of the character unskilled my God makes it up. Oh my God I remember. She started on attack of the show and that was what I knew her from but then she's been acting and in a lot of different things. Yeah Look Yeah Okay Scandal. She's been in magic. My the horror film deliver us from evil x men apocalypse. And that's what I know from X. men she pleads X. Men yeah it's Oh my God that is exactly it isn't she. She's dating Aaron Rodgers. Ono was in a relationship. That's so sad. Well she got to have it though. So okay good for her girl you go girl. Overall she was fine. I liked her whole thing with crystal method. Although we'll get the crystal method and the judge's cold that's Okay so the theme. This week was buttons and Bows So. I guess we'll just go down. The line ran. What did you think of Jada? Essence halls luck of slow board. Linda Board is little cutesy. Fomc bouncy girly. I didn't go for this. I thought she could have done more. I certainly expected more to me. She is one of the driving Queens of the season. She is one of the Queen's who I halt her to a higher standard because she's that fucking good and while this was certainly fitted well constructed. Well the makeup was right everything about it. I thought worked. It was a little boring. I do not care for it. I'm on it said it certainly wasn't cinch the way that I thought that it would. It be considering it's it's Jada because everything that you wear so so far it's like so. I thought that was the construction of it. Though I mean I take your point. It is not as cinched. It doesn't as cinched as she has been but I felt like that was more a result of the voluminous construction and not necessarily a reflection of the fact that she wasn't cinched as much. Yeah that's true. I am appreciative of the fact that she had both both and buttons. Because some of these queens this this look very Mike Loosely. Because some of them didn't have either had all of one in none of the other like very little and I just played that was at least. She had a bit of a balanced with both obtain. The bows I like imagine a man with a clipboard being like counting the buttons and bows and be like bitch. This ratio is one to watch. I watched this episode at the Bar on Friday and I was like over there screaming from the background. Like why where are the bows? And everybody's just like. Oh my God like don't take it that seriously seriously. Like are they in the fact that nobody got clocked. That's so weird to me but see I mean maybe I'm speaking out of turn but I felt like that they could do either like I didn't expect anybody to how it's and both but I feel like I feel like rule has done this before where she's had like Like some sort of like you know theme to the drag and it's been like blank and blank and you know but they don't necessarily go together like some of the Queen's did only one and I was totally here for it because they did it so well so I'll disagree with you. Have literally no strong opinion about this. But I'm living for various strong opinion of this. I guess the I didn't mind as much that they did not have both however it does say buttons and it's not buttons and or Bows Not Bitch says buttons an Mba site. So we need to bring to the table. I WANNA go look and see like is there one. That's this and that and see if they have both done dennen denim diamonds. That was one right. Did that have both denim? I remember that one. Some people did but some people didn't I just feel like you can either okay anyway so we have both buttons and bows here on. Jada but I agree with you. I think yeah because I do also holder to a little bit of a higher standard. But that being said. I actually like this outfit but I really want it to be made out of latex my hand or I would have been amazing. I don't know how well that would have gone with. Buttons basic helped the fit to if it had been made out of latex true. I'm just saying that. But she does look like a little bit of a Barbie Doll. I love really clunky shoes. I think that helps to complete the look. But it's not anything that like. I'm going to be gagged about very tricky to me. We talked about talking to Dolly. Esn Brandt what do you feel this? Runway should have saved her feel like they were being overly hard on her. Michelle's comments about Oh. We can't even see the the interesting hair you because of what you're wearing on your head and I'm like I can see it perfectly fine. What what's your problem. This was sexy. It was hot it was fitted it embraced. The challenge had bose everywhere and her makeup was so right and she walked the runway. So well like compared to crystal come on I'm with her in her outrage. So I just got done slobbering all over fricken but I didn't like this. I didn't get it it was like the bodice was strange. The front was just everything like blended so much in with her skin which against what she was kind of going forward but it just like a big purple thing resting on top of her and then the back of it looked undone in unfinished and the I thought that's what she was going for. It was sort of not fully constructed. Look that was on purpose and I know that sounds like I'm giving her a pass. I'M NOT I. There are a few other queens. The heads deconstructed. Look I felt like that's what she was trained crew. But maybe I because Nikki Dog Certificates. They had been kind of go. But I feel like Nikki's look kinda pulled it off. I don't think this one dead. It's just it seems way too frumpy and like the hair. I didn't really mind not seeing her hair. Like it was just a frigging. You know Bob cut anyway. Here's but I liked the hair piece. I think it was probably the most. Are the the boat or the bunny years? Rather was like the crowning jewel of the Alpha. From me and your. She looked beautiful. What the makeup. But I don't know I just didn't like the shoes. She was McHugh but other than that. I was just like Oh really. I expecting something else if you want to do this. Why don't you go for like just like Riana as m you know with a bunch of booze and buttons all over it like? I don't know it just it was I want. I want either like more bunny or less funny like I don't really get bunny apart from the head piece but it could also bunny either journalists. Are they like tentacles coming out of her head? I don't quite know so it's like how how have a tail weren't they like? She moved them around and make them do different shapes or is it really a bunny or did you just say that now because you know you can make like some. We'RE GOING WITH YEAH. I I loved the colors. I thought that she was gorgeous with the little bows on And I heard makeup is. Just forget a flawless. I mean she's absolutely gorgeous. Both in and out of drag but she can come to her face in such a way. That makes her look even more beautiful. But Yeah I think I'd have to go with a mon- on this one just eight. I know right. I didn't quite get it. So maybe this is uneducated self. But I didn't quite get the art. That was going on here But I don't know the color was gorgeous out part. Yeah all right let's Let's talk sorry I lost. I don't often talk about this but the judges Carson when he said and then there's Mov bits here for that she does sell awhile. She sells it well on the runway and I think that that really does now rackham sacre comes out and her Allison Wonderland inspired outfit a mind. And what did you think about this We can already tell you how strong take on. It was the whole point of her drinking the drink me bottle and then dropping the hair with that supposed to signify her growing or was it just more of silly prop to really sell the image of Allison Wonderland like what's going on here. I'm on your over thinking it. I don't know what the point of the problem was but I appreciated it. This was a great luck. I loved it. I mean I don't know if the bottle is there because the hairs growing or if it just sort of there to sell the overall aesthetic of the wonder land s look but I love this. This was one of the few times where I feel like random soccer as makeup really worked with this particular fit. I love how open her eyes wore. The white between her is in how it really like with the outfit itself. The hairpiece with the The hair dragging behind her with all the bows on it and her little story that she had with it and she went out there and owned that shit and I loved it. I really responded. Well I liked it. I mean I think it looked great. Loved the long hair. I was just questioning the the camping because I you know. I'm a Disney Gay. I take my Disney very seriously. So if you'RE GONNA IF YOU'RE GONNA arms my beloved Alice in Wonderland as the inspiration that I want to know what the story is that you're telling and right now I just get it. But she did look good on the list. So kind of middle of the road for me if she grows. Shouldn't her hair get shorter? What I was thinking what? What's what's tell. Tell me. Tell me the process. I want to know from one to another. Just tell me let me know. She should like get up on stilts like Rocky A. I thought that this was this was cute. I thought that she had a lot of bose now. Did I see a lot of buttons that? I can't speak to the only like really major criticism I have with rock because I've actually been really loving. Iraq has brought to the table. So far is I feel like a lot of her outfits are ill fitted around the waist. It's almost like she got a new course. It and now nothing fits right around the waist area is all very loose there and I just want to like take it in just a little bit right there and I think that that would just make it so much more Polish. Because she has the hair with all the bows. The shoes are super cute. I thought our makeup was really gorgeous. She has the little prop but I just kept getting distracted by all of the movement. That was happening there so that would be like my only really major criticism of his luck but I thought it was cute. It was a cool. Take Allison Wonderland with buttons. And bows you know so. Like got on her for being creative. That's a fair point about the fit. The FIT is a little off and she maybe queen that has recently lost weight. And was you know thinking of the day because she is? She's so cute as a boy and she has such a like a little cute little body that you just want to you know grab and pinch that maybe she I did. I don't know if she's talked about. We lost in the past Although it may be something where she maybe. She doesn't realize she has lost weight. I mean that happened to me like Last month I don't know if I never heard this is my life coming up on a podcast but I wouldn't have my physical done and they weighed me. I was twenty pounds under. I thought I was going to be like I expected the number to be blank and the number was twenty five pounds under that number and I was like like I don basically nothing to make that happen. I just got a job as I got out and so I know right. So maybe maybe she's not realized that she's lost some weight and she has her figure is not what it once was and she needs to send shop more and maybe she lost weight like right up until when they started taping or it could be like a reverse survivor where she knew she was going to go and repulsed drag race and was like. I have to get in shape but the consequence of that is the fact that her outfits because it was like this is like a common theme out with a lot of our stuff and I did look through our instagram. And she's of course she's I wouldn't classify her overweight but she's definitely not skinny. So I wonder if there was like a bit of a weight fluctuation going on there but who knows. She's like Jack Though. I think he'll definitely yeah. I don't know but good for her. Maybe hey you know what if? It's anything like brand. That means that she's working so that's a good thing. I wouldn't talk about John. Because John's Voodoo look was so fricking cool like this is something that I would not have expected. A lot of the Queen's went out in these very gorgeous you know paying her. You know bill yes exactly Barbie doll outfits. She came out again. Buddhu doll which was just absolutely amazing. She's got the button. She's got the bose this alphabet made of burlap with tearaways. Oh my Gosh brand. This was just Gog worthy for me. This Alpha was made a burlap and get it looked so expensive. It looked really well done. I like I mean I could tell that a lot of work and time and effort went into this. This was so great. Not only that. But she had to reveal at the beginning where she liked tore it off of her face and then her face and her makeup or so like the expression on their face with the makeup was such a great look in so striking compared to the you know the dark color of the burlap and then she comes down the runway and she's meeting Amman's two categories. She has bows and she has. She has everything. It's a totally deconstructed. Look that looks fully constructed on the runway. A plus loved it. You were this. Yeah I love the fact that it was deconstructed but it still looked good in the fact that there were parts of the doll that were their stitching but it was still everything was still held in place in the makeup was good a big ass. Boehner on her head like they had had a terrorist skirt. It was just unconventional. I had to. I like it when Queens or coming on the runway and you're just like noticing a new thing with each and every step that they take just like a like on what Tandy Newton said about. What's your face last episode? The feast a little heart there like all those. Yeah it was so good so good thing about Jan Amman she has such a Chameleon Liana like she is. She can do anything I feel like she is not bound by any particular look or aesthetic. She is just fantastic fucking queen and I'm so here for me and my backpack. I am here for Jan. just Jan. and she's the queen that I I didn't expect it from her as well and I think that that's really refreshing. The fact that she is coming out is showing us all of these sides of her. Make me excited to see what she's GonNa Bring next week because it's not predictable and she's going to do something new and something exciting. I worried at the moment about the lack of love from the judges in terms of her plane but at least from my perspective. I really like what she's bringing so I'm hoping she's a slow burn. James Monsoon Neo never finished in the top. Or or anything in the first five of those snatch snatch game came and then she took off from there so I know that's like a once in a lifetime kind of thing but I'm hopeful I'm hopeful notice but more all right Amman. Our resident gay talk about Heidi Aspen Oak. Yeah it was always in Disney gay. That's what I meant Disney to say gay. 'cause we go to Veg. I've forgotten a home. Yeah obviously inspired by the animated classics honey but also like a little bit of sailor moon there too. She didn't say so but I but I thought I saw it. I liked how you know she was like. You couldn't see those in the beginning but she wants you to make sure that she had earnings we your buttons and she lifted up that flat and showed her her ass with those with those buttons. All over. I thought that that was really really cute. I love the story behind it. I just feel like it added so much to it. The look as a whole is sort of like on the basic end. I loved it because you're pandering to me but it was still sort of like I don't know it wasn't wasn't enough buttons or both for me. You know she just had that big ass on her neck and then that was pretty much She has the buttons on her bums. That was about it Yeah this look grading on a curve on this one because this was like the bare minimum. This was a little cheap. Like let's be honest. The skirt is cheap. It's like a sequence. Wrap skirt that you could wear for anything Yeah I I wasn't really impressed by it but I love the fact that she was in the top that recognized her performance in the challenge and that the runway basically to me the judges squinted a little bit and looked at her outfit. And we're like okay. It's good but I wasn't impressed by a little spirit. Halloween Halloween was a nice touch. I'm happy that she brought that out. I thought that that was kind of cool but But Yeah I get the criticisms. Also I think she's covered in sequins and this is not the not the sparkle challenge buttons and Bows Challenge. So I think I'm only seeing one bow and maybe a total of eight buttons so I don't know if we're going to compare to our next look gee-gee who was covered in what I can. Best describe is just a shit ton of buttons. This is clearly lacking by. Let's talk about G. I loved loved loved this. Look I I was hoping okay. Yes I can say that it's like Oh it's a basic set. Oh it's so obvious. Oh of course. Shit on buttons but Brent ICU. Do not feel the same way. No no I do I do I. I'm a I'm a gal out of how good this is. No no no. I like what I was going to say about. The Silhouette is predictable. Yes it's a little basic but given what she's wearing the color and the fact that she's asleep covered and buttons doesn't have to be like I mean like the point of the outfit is that it's been made entirely of buttons. That is the point of the outfit that everything just use wearing from the sunglasses to the briefcase to the purse to the of the Blouse. I'm not the blouse. The jacket to the shorts. To the boots. Everything is made of buttons and she literally can't sit down but when she walked down the runway she looked so comfortable in so owned it that I would never have guessed that she was not able to sit down. She looked like a absolute supermodel. She was an absolute pro. I love the fact that it's done in such a striking color that it absolutely grabs your attention. This was in the top three of the runway and possibly the winner for me. I think she should have been in the top again based on her performance in the challenge and the fact that she had the knockout runway of the of the week. This was spectacular buzz though. I'm on what she really really sold it. I was angry when I watched it for the first time. But when I watched it the second time just wake the swagger. Both figure it's at figuratively and literally with which. She came down that runway with that ensemble. It's just it's just so it's just so good and maybe I'm being pandered to again. Warned is my favorite color. But like damn the corroded texture of all of those buttons just covering everything but it's so sleek in just so it looks. She looks rich and she's wearing buttons and it's just it just woke up so good and you know what she i. This is the one she did that she was worried about not getting getting a critique for having no bows so apparently. Somebody's zoomed in on her on her her outfit and apparently on her panties there's about her vagina would be okay. What IRA that's not the reason why we love this out though. It's because of the bows I was going to say was that I got wrong. Okay we we did a preseason podcast and we talked about the various queens and what we thought about what we thought we were going to get from them. This queen she special she is. She's got personality and she knows how to work runway. She is fantastic. I'm waiting to see a weakness. I'm waiting to see if there's something that she's not good at but I am so I'm just like it's almost like Brooklyn Heights where you think she's a pretty basic queen and I really thought she was a basic queen and then she comes out and absolute steals your attention and I'm like Oh my God. I was so wrong about you but yeah I. I was astounded by this long. I think she's GonNa go far. It really do the fact that she was a Doug Corpse in the frigate and challenge and she's still it's still felt like she was present. It still felt like she wasn't necessarily a prop even though she was literally a prop for Jackie. I think really says something and she just looks like a rich woman going on vacation. Yeah sure she's covered him buttons but bet she about the FRY. It was so good. Yeah yeah it was so good she she honestly looks like a woman who would say. I owned fifty one percents. That is definitely her static now. Jackie who is our next Queen comes out with an outfit inspired. By the Hurley's of England Brent. How did you feel about this one? Okay here's the thing I think is very pretty. I love the color scheme. It is constructed. Incredibly well I love the hairpiece. I love the the hats with the blow on it and the way that this look is constructed. But it's a little boring. I as it is my criticism of Jada where I don't feel like it went out of what I normally would've expected from her. Like if you had said to me Brent before the episode Okay Jackie's going to do a buttons and Bows Challenge. What do you think that show come out in? I would have said that she would come out in sort of a old not modern twenties sort of like old fashioned saloon kind of look and that's where she came out now. The color scheme is interesting and she owns it well on the runway and it's fitted. Well so you know I gonNA come for no but I. I'm hoping that she surprises me. Okay look at the people who surprised me during this challenge. We haven't talked about her yet but widow surprised me. Gene surprised me. The last we knew we talked about a G. G surprised me. There are people that wowed us this. Yeah I feel the same way. It's just sort of yawn. There's no there's no pasta. Only point of view there's no and I hate to call somebody's art uninspired but it just feels like she when she. I guess. We really shouldn't be too surprised because she literally said I am the Queen of the Evening Life. A good bed at not like she's literally just to have a little good old time show her low drag and move the fog on like. I just don't feel like she is on the cutting edge and I feel like it's season twelve drag raise and you sort of need to be on the cutting edge. Maybe on a season like this show farewell because there are quite a few older queens and not saying that odor. Queens can't be cutting edge but I just feel like there are a lot of queens. That are sort of like in her. Arenas so maybe by comparison she doesn't stick out as much but it's just not exciting to see you know it's just like you look very very pretty but you also look like you've been doing this for forty years and I want to see some you know. Yep Yeah I think that point. Amman about it being exciting I think is really important because I think you can do period. Dry like pieces. I mean which I it feels like so far. A lot of her work is definitely inspired. That way a lot of her looks is inspired. Almost all periods. Which I think is fine. I'm like I think that it's just you still have to be doing something that is exciting and I think the critique of Brenda you made about this is similar to jettas. Look is actually really apt. Even though this period inspired piece I think it is just kind of not as exciting or doesn't really have that. Wow factor that I would want to but if you tried to do something a little bit more that is period period inspired but is a little bit more. Wow I think of Raja as a queen. Who's able to do that? Like her Marie Antoinette look was just an example of sort of period inspired a drag but is wow is amazing is something that makes you think like oh my gosh. This is the coolest thing here you go. I mean that being said I thought this Alpha was totally fine like like Jada walked out. I'd be like you're safe. You're this is not about look. Dali is for me was worse so anyway. I don't mean to come for Jackie especially because they thought she was really funny in the the skits but I do see both of your points about this. Look because it wasn't oh my gosh. I can't wait to see what she's GonNa wear next whereas I thought her other looks where we're better than this but she does have. Does she have buttons? That's like really. I didn't see any buttons Madame. Maybe in the trim maybe to go back and look but I remember I was was pissing. All these Queens essentially for not embracing I mean. She has little buttons down the chest from her bosom too long along the inside of the arms of by. That's about it though. It's very very very white all right well. Let's talk about a look that it's very brown clown stunning widows and. I know that you end to talk about her. What did you think I mean? This was fucking great. You guys this is great drag. I love this drag with the capital. D. was everything I wanted. I was like please please do something fun and interesting. Please don't bore me widow in God. Damn she didn't. She is still the front runner and my eyes. She came out here a look that looks like an absolute clown and yet it still looks like high fashion everything about it and it met. Both of the prongs of Vermont's tested has bows and buttons out fricking Wazoo. She looked like it's like somebody that I just wanted to get to know and I wanted to talk to for drag. Queen goes because she looks so put together and yes. The colors are a little like they're a little bit in some places. Yeah they're hideous. Yes. They're hideous. Yes exactly what I was trying to say but it is so it is such an interesting take on the clown and the avant garde nature of her look just White House me over and over. Every time I look at it also the shoes bitch I cannot with the shoes it is such a great look to have all of those bows and buttons. I don't know she just like glued them on or something. But they don't look glued on they look like there's something interesting all the way down to the pant leg that has little puffs and I mean the way she worked. The runway was spend Tasman. I just want this so I'm trying to come around to the widow of Aundu aesthetic and I agree that she certainly attacks. These looks in an unconventional way. Oh Yeah I think she's her and Jan had sort of the same thing going. I just think that her color pilots are always so fucking ugly. I love that though ugly. Pretty maybe or you just think they're young. I just can't like it's not boring you know. She's never bothered me at all. I just I don't know she definitely did sell it coming on the run with. I like the the walk. Like the swaggie was very goofy was very charming and winking and points in at the judges and everything so she definitely she definitely sold it just a statically. I'm just never down with our college. We just can't get into it. There's something about it for me. That doesn't necessarily feel high fashion even though I feel like. That's the way that she kind of describes some of her looks and I don't know why I think part of it might be the fact that I just want to cut the tails off of that coat. So bad like they're just too long. I just wanted to take scissors and just make them a little bit shorter because it felt like it was dragging a little bit. I didn't think the colors were that ugly though in her defense but the buttons glued all over. Not I mean again. If you'RE GONNA go. Buttons go good level of buttons. I will say the shoes were really gorgeous though and I love the way that she tied in the bows of the buttons on the Bose was nice part of the alphabet. That was really gorgeous. It didn't necessarily speak to me though in the same way but I thought that it was cool. It was a creative. Take absolutely for sure undoing buttons and bows and that was. I and I like the makeup. I appreciate you will Yeah exactly I also appreciated the fact that she had a thousand different kinds of buttons. It wasn't just like one type on the she actually went out and got like I dunno like ten thousand different types of buttons and like had them glued and sewn all over that outfit and created a disproportionate. Look in a way where you're drawn to the buttons and yet you can't look away from them like you you you're you're you know you're what you're looking at is definitely hideous and definitely has a color Palette. That is meant to be striking in a way that disturbs you. But I was just so into it. I just love this drag. Maybe it was a little bit. I wouldn't like what do I not like about the buttons around the Lapel. It felt a little bit more like pieces of flair. Fermi then the buttons. But now that I look at it more. I I don't know this is something where it's right on that line of either hate it or I love it. I can't decide which one at the moment. Well maybe you. Let's talk about something we hated. And here's crystal method okay. Well let's give a monetary instance. You go what he thinks I should rent. You're going to have a negative opinion of this. What do you feel for crystal method? I feel like it was like sorta like I don't know it's is it. Upon show that address what is it that was Dane Poncho as address overly critical? And that's what made this episode. I don't know I just feel like it. What is it no I hate it? It's terrible. It's fucking terrible literally is like it's an assault to my eyeballs as they would say like this is like. I know what you said about would've undo and her color Palette but this one of the red and pink but there is no silhouette. It is absolutely swallowing her up. I cannot see anything. I don't know where her body begins. Where the fabric ends the makeup the like okay? See this get myself in trouble because I really want to talk about the fact that she was boohooing about the fact that you know well. This is what I hide behind. Because that's why I always wear this mask and I'm like that sounds to me like you are mad that you got a critique on your makeup because because lots of Queens get crew critiques on their makeup when they were the same thing over and over again all the way back to milk had the same kind of aesthetic to her makeup and got a critique about it but like I felt like that she was. Okay here here. Here's the thing. I really hate this outfit for reasons. And there's just too much fabric. It's one time okay. I remember one time. I bought a shirt online And it looks like that shirt. I JUST. I had no shape. It just looked like this big baggy mess. I hated it and I'm so lazy I didn't want to return it and I kept trying to make it work. Okay maybe it'll look okay and every single tyrod. It was like the fucking ugly. I hate this so much. And that's kind of how I feel about this. I keep wanting to really like it but I just I just don't so that's my feeling on the outfit. Now my feeling on the makeup okay I it is really bothering me. The fact that the judges seemed to be picking and choosing which repetitive makeup that they like and don't like one hundred dollars crystal was probably in part chosen because she's so unique because she's so distinct and she has this really kooky crazy style of makeup which is really neat. I mean you're GonNa let Queens like trixie mental though and do her makeup but then you're going to sit here and you're going to criticize dusty or you're going to criticize crystal for what they do. I feel like it's fine to say you know. The makeup is really heavy and it makes it so we can't see your eyes or there are ways to criticize a makeup without just being like your style of makeup his garbage and I hate it. Please change at. And that's what I felt like. I was getting from the judges and I like her makeup. Like I feel like yeah. I mean it's very clown in the face but I mean that's it's not like she's painting the same clown face each and every time you like this. One has really large exaggerated lips that are matching the the the the the fabric and everything like it's handle. No I just. I feel like if you're going to like like you just said we're going to invite her on the show for her aesthetic than don't punish her for being on the show because she's using aesthetic you know like cheap shy. Feel like they need to give her something that she can work on and say. Here's how you can change your makeup. Give her a small goal so that she can then meet that but I don't feel like they see her has a winner and let's be real when feel like that the judges start picking winners and losers right away and about who who's a contender who's not and it's very rare that a queen can rise. Above what the judge initially think of them and surprise them. A couple of Queens have done that throughout the seasons on drag race. But it's not often and once you're in that sort of category yeah. I feel like that. You're not long for this occasionally will be hard for you to tell them. Switch stuff up with that knowing that you make them prepare months in advance and you tell them because the queen's will get a list of all of the runways for the season and so of course going to pick up close and they're going to pick out where face with their faces going to look like and now you're telling them halfway through after months of planning change that. Shit like you know and then it ends up. F- in whatever they're trying to do for the next runway so I don't know it's just really weird and she's not she's obviously not getting a winners edit right now so I just feel like when the time comes for her to be eliminated. They're going to be like. Oh you know we're just sick of the cloned Gama already. I could probably write rupaul Pun for her bottom to speech like in two days. Blake because we know what's coming. Yeah it's just it's frustrating to me mainly because of the what I feel like is unequal. Judging you know it's like Oh. Hey so you're not doing female illusion you're doing more are so we hate it so goodbye that being said the Alpha was frigging ugly in my opinion but like I don't get the criticisms of her makeup. It just feels like oh just because you don't like the style of art doesn't mean it's not art so anyway. I'm just frustrated that we're going to have to deal with this throughout the season but that's literally of all the stuff we have to deal with throughout the season of our problems. So that's that's fine now. Talking about addresses that were unfinished. We touched on this earlier with Nikki. Dolls aesthetic of doing this whole Cinderella where the mice are still making the gown which was such a cool concept. The only thing I wish Bryant is that they had. She'd stuck more mice on the dress to McGee like they were doing more of the work. Yes she kept pointing to that one little mice that she had stuck to it. Like like C. C. I did something. Yeah I didn't even know what it was. I I was with Rupaul. I thought it was a German or something So Yeah I look at overall. I agree with you that the my more mice would have been would have created a more interesting aesthetic here however I didn't respond as negatively to this. Look as maybe I should have because I do feel like that. She went out of her way to characterize the outfit in a way. That had both parts of the prongs. There's obvious button on her head and throughout the outfit and the bow around the bodice. It was really weird. Juxtaposition of Gorgeous NECE and impracticality in a way then. I found very inviting. I was very taken with this. Look so I like I have a question for you. Am I being taken in by the fact that we love Nicki doll and we love accents and we love everything about her and we love her face so I'm excusing every part of her fashion like am I guilty? I thought Paul's definitely guilty of that. In terms of lifting but we'll get to that I think that I think I think that that look interesting. I think that it was it was it was. It was a different kind of concept. I love the fact that the straps of the dress was measuring tape and look like how was great. I loved the whole dress was. She wanted to give us that. Like this dress is being made as I'm walking like that and of course you know pandering to me because Cinderella so mean I think I think it was bad I mean I. I like the bow in the hair. I thought it was a very everything was everything was specific. Everything had a clear intent and I think that out of like all of the girls on this episode. I think that she had one of the more interesting takes you know it. Just wasn't I think that the these construction is sort of like with is the only negative thing that I can say? I think it was a bit who deconstructed in some parts. That just looks bad. It looks like you were gone for the deconstruct of look in the Guy Tired. And we're like okay because that Bo in the back was this sort of like. Ooh What's going on there? But I think that the concept was really really cool right like you should have been more finished because then it really makes it clear that the dress is being built because I will say when she first walked onto the runway before I sorta paid attention to her voice over. It was like what is going on. She just wear her undergarments and then kind of wrapped herself with some fabric like that. That was what I thought. Once I got it then it was. Oh this is really clever. I really like this but I think maybe in the execution could have been a little bit more. Maybe like birds flying around her. I don't I don't know how you do that. Just really give the indication that you know she is the DNC Disney princess. But it was incredibly creative and I thought that that was really cool and yeah the button. Aitor thing on top was was really nice now. Okay by eight so I I don't I don't even know I don't even know where to start here. Okay this is a sweatshirt with boast. It is okay. What am I looking at them on? You know there's an old saying that says if you have nothing nice to say anything at all but I'm not going to follow that role. This look was shot and I love me some eight insane and I will. I will defend her when it comes to the Queen's trying to come for her but if they gave her over this look I'd be like bitch she. You brought that up. So because what is going on this Rupaul drag race season twelve. I think that the best thing about this outfit was just the fact that she had all of those Baratz in her hair. I thought that was really cool because technically not bows out there. Sale bows plastic. Bows so you got what you sort of like kind of buttons in a sense to so I call again but the rest of you should have like you should have done with? Nikki are not Nikki. You should have done what did and just went eight shit with those. You should've just went all over the sweater. All over your body of have the have the height that you're wearing. Have the Bretton them too. I have Baratz on your nails. Like just like go frigging crazy. This looked so what was she thinking. Like unless you might not have like a big team and she doesn't live in New York City so she doesn't have all of these designers that want to come and help him when they find out that she's GonNa be on the show so she doesn't have a lot of might have I get it but there was there. No one that you were talking to when you when you were putting these looks together. That said you might want to do something a little bit more with this one. It just seems so unfinished in so late last minute. Like look like she had a nice little sweater and then she asked wanted to producers to go to. Cvs by her son breads unless you put them on there. That's what it looked like. Brand what do you feel yeah? It's a really basic look and I think that the hairpiece saved it and some of the makeup saved it. The make up was sort of striking sort of interesting. It's weird and she's kind of weird and we'd love that about her But other than that. There's really not a lot to say. I mean she got by on the strength of her group and the fact that Rupaul didn't necessarily come for for this runway. She got lucky we really did. I was shocked. I guess the judge is really love her or why because this had bigger fish to fry with these low performing groups who are just like it's not even worth it you know what I mean or they did drag her and we indeed get it. Yeah it's possible I. I have a really hard time because I think I'm worried about criticizing her so much for this outfit. Where it's like you said. Oh if she doesn't have the resources or doesn't necessarily I'm grading on a curve. You don't even know exactly I. It's so oh I think I owned this sweater like it's just a sweater with bows stock on it. And then does she owed. Another WIG is also my concern here. That's yeah no no and then if you're gonNA talk about repetitive. Makeup right lake the turned up at all so we will see when she gets some critiques from the judges how they're feeling about her. I have a feeling just really like her. That's just the sense that I get. I do not like this outfit. So there we go now. Baretta is our next queen. That comes out on the runway Brent. What do you feel about British? Look Kantle Board. The also falls into the Jada category where it's a little pretty bouncy and I'm just bored by it and I don't want to be bored by her. I like her. I want to like her is like the item. I'll just say this of the three of us. I probably respond the best Britta she. She has a confidence about her. That I know is unbecoming in. Maybe Your Eyes Liana and I agree with you. That the way that she came off the conversation with Aidan it was like she was a total bitch but I feel like overall. She's been able to back up some of her claims of being really good so I have been able to go with her on much of that but this one I was bored by it was a look that didn't really like barely met the qualities of the runway. It wasn't really buttons or Bose It. I mean there were some bows on it but it wasn't the main focal point of the look and even though everything else about it in terms of the makeup was good. I like the hair was a little out of place. It was a little almost you blonde for the Color Palette that I feel like she was going for with her makeup. I didn't care for this cause I'm starting to realize that we have we're not we're sort of as a whole for this category. We're sort of a bit lukewarm on a lot of these queens and I'm starting to wonder is it the category. You know what I mean. There's not it's not a very no I. I don't feel like it is though because there are some Queensland wh absolutely right and that's where I was they absolutely knocked it out of the Goddamn Park they said you know what I'm GonNa take this category and I'm going to go to the nth degree I'm GonNa go outside the box. That's what that's what I was saying. That like. I feel like categories like these that really leave a lot open to interpretation. This is really where you get to see. The Queen's actually have some creativity in their bones and sometimes and sometimes like I said before with eight and it's a matter of resources because some of these queens are not seamstresses at all. They are the New York City. They told her going to be on drag race and then everybody comes flocking to them because they want to see their artwork on television. So I guess like I don't know I just feel like this I. This is a category that we're like some some of these just bonded and because they expected to do well in the challenges and they're like well this one way that I'm going to kill it for this when they were like I'm okay with taking a day off for this one and it really shows and some of these looks. Yeah it does feel a little bit like Oh this is the first thing that popped into my head okay. I'm just GONNA go with that verse says okay. Yeah totally buttons and bows what can I do? That's really outside the box you know. And and that's what we see from Queens like I mean even maybe Jiji's you could say like. Oh of course you can stick a bunch of buttons and the way that was executed I think really sets it above the rest but Jan for example. I think somebody. That's Oh you wouldn't expect that. And that's what I really appreciate. And I feel like Britta's look here falls under the category of you know okay. This is something predictable very Barbie doll. The shoes were super cute and nothing like inherently is wrong with the Alpha is. It's cute. It's fine it's just it's Fine Red's not oh my God I have. Children Co workers this outfit because it's amazing the next day you know what I mean. I think the best thing about it was just. You know the separation in the skirt with the role of buttons around. There was the best part about it. Yeah agreed yeah. I would agree with us while the last. Luckily we have on the runway. Is Sherry Pies Doll? Look a mind. What did you think about this mood? Spooky Bitch those fucking contacts man. Yeah I was not expecting that long ago I was I was fully entrenched in whatever she was like. What is the reference here? Is it like because I don't even know what I I feel like? I get it without even getting it. You know what I mean like. It was very very like horror. Movie like little What's that movie with the girl with the hair that covers her face? Like I'm like really killer ring game. That's the ring. I'm really feeling the reference game right now. I'm yeah she was. It was in that little with all that she had with it. It was all very very unnerving I felt like. I I love the boots with the lace bows going all the way down and everything it was just. It was a good look. I like this one. Yeah I hated that. I love it as much as I did. I mean this was one of the best of the night really was so. We'll give credit to the costume designer and the immaculate construction of this fabulous look it was. It had something where it met. The category had bows out. The WAZOO had buttons in interesting ways and yet the Color Palette of the outfit was done in such a way where it looked pretty and terrifying at the same time combined with the doll and the skeleton nature of it and her spooky contacts. This was an a plus from talking about this. Was this was really amazing. I think the moment that did it for me was when she removes the glasses and had the contacts but just the whole construction of the look is really outstanding. The colors that were chosen silhouette. The giant bow on top of her head is amazing. The shoes the boots the doll as the accessory. That is evil. That if you've kind of been looking a little bit beforehand you'd recognize like how evil it's going to be. I also like hate to be like. Oh my God this is so amazing but it really is so amazing and this was for me. I think probably I don't know if it's the best luck but it's definitely up there. I'm just looking at the name of the the person who made the outfits which I know I have some does it. How do I get some message on Instagram? Y'All I had airplane little Arrow in the air on the upper right hand corner. I can do this all right. Well let's see let's move on and then we'll go back to that before. Take me a while a mold. We have our queens that are called safe widow Jada Jan Rock gee-gee aiden and bread. A brand what did you think about the queen's that were safe versus the ones that were on the top of the bottoms of like I said I was really thinking that would be in the top because I thought her runway just demanded that she be in the top combined with the fact that she did amicable and amicable but adequate in the challenge to she did adequate to good your. She was the corpse again so she didn't have much to do but when she was awake. I felt she was fully realized and I loved her concept so the fact that she was safe. I was a little bummed by also like I said I responded much more to widow von dues. Look than either of the two of you so I was bummed that she also wanted to read you one. I want to be in top and we kick out Sherry Pie just have been lip sync. That'd be fun. I thought that this was okay. I thought widow getting positive comments from the judges but then just being saved seemed like to me by. I don't know what you feel. Yeah it's I mean it's always kinda rough in the beginning of the season because when you do have Queens Multiple Queens that are delivering pretty. Well it really just becomes like an arms race. You really just have to really get really nit-picky because you just have to choose you because you care about camping in the top you know so you gotTa really just choose what who are the people that have the strongest and the absolute worst performances and then everybody else kind of just falls to the wayside and people do on on like the wikipedia pages for the season They'll have all of the rankings and so like they'll have people that are in the top and they'll have people that are high and they'll have people that middle and they'll have people that are low and they will have people that are bought them and so like there is like a gradient. It's not just top bottom safe. There's like high and low as well so it'll get easier. The season starts to whittle down the into the costume designer. That did I don't know if they did specifically this. Look I know designed like seventeen of Sherry pies. Looks is Florence delete so you go? Florence all right. I was obviously using it. Really all right. So we have the judges Blah Blah Blah. I do either of you have anything you want to say about. The judge's part from crystals makeup critiques. This next then we can talk about Cherry Pie wins and we got the very end of the episode. They showed the little placard card. That said that the money the Cherry Pie would've received is going to be donated to the Trevor Project. Which I think is absolutely amazing and I think that was the perfect way to go if you are world of wonder yes. I am such a dumb bitch because I didn't realize that that's what was happening like. I know that she won five thousand dollars. I'm like Oh and then at the end of the episode. They said that I'm like what is this reference to him like well. Obviously it's like. I think it's about the Cherry Pie situation. But why are they doing anything? Five thousand dollars like why? Not Twenty five thousand dollars. And then I it dawned on. Oh the money that she wanted that she was going to get there now. Giving to the trevor. I was like what the fuck is going on here. Why are they right? Five thousand dollars. They can afford to throw a little bit change to somebody like what the hell is this. But then I don't think so because this was filmed last summer so it just like dive into her bank account and take the ship back like what did happen if she no you are not. I know as the Connoisseur of game shows the awarded the money for anything until the season has aired even on places like survivor and big brother. Obviously Big Brother but survivor. Anything anything. Were you win money when I was on? The price is right. You don't get anything until the show. Here's because the show legally is not committed to owing you anything until the show airs. They had not shown this season. They wouldn't have been committed to giving money to any other queens anything like the season has to air for them to legally be required to give it to you so they had never awarded Sherry Pie the money in the first place which is why they were able to then disqualify her hand money that they would have given to. Cherry Pie to the Trevor Project. That is why now. Lake Sasha Bell. We have cracked the code. Let's talk about to Queen's did not crack the code when it came to lip sing gang about Arianna which was the song was problem featuring Aghia Salia Dalia versus Nikki. And Oh my gosh. This was painful to watch. This was started because there's started watching a bit of the untucked. 'cause I really hadn't watched it and so I was skimming through Dahlia Sin Arthur on talk talking about. How is she is ready to lip seeing reading the lives? That was packing right. It'll be prepared that you know the quote but and this was so lukewarm from both of them like there was no and it wasn't even like you guys were wearing. Maybe maybe more so Nikki doll but definitely not for Dolly like you had space to go him but you were had space to give this song were energy and I felt like if there was ever going to be a double Double Elimination this would have been it and I would have been perfectly fine with it. Because they were both middling too low in performance in the In the Chart Lynch and then to top it off with this really just lackluster performance. The problem and just like what is going on here. It really did. Remind me of DAX estimation plane. And what's her face? The ones that got eliminated eight. I was like this is so bad. yeah it was pretty bad. What did you think I thought that Nikki saved it on the bridge? When there's a little part where Dolly was forgetting the words and Nikki had a moment where she had a little bit more energy and really spit out the words to the song in a way that I was like yes queen. Yes go go go. I felt like that was the moment where she saved herself. Rule would have been totally within her rights to send them both home. I felt like I felt like there were a couple of shining moments for Nikki than there were for Dalia and she also forgot the words so that cannot be. Yeah didn't other words. This is such a great song to lip sync to because you have the Arianna guerande part but then you also have the Iggy Azalea wrap. We'll you can show off so many different skill sets and they Arianna dirty all like this was oh. I wanted so much more. This is such a good song and it just felt so disappointing. It's low energy. That's not the way the song is. They just wanted so much more. I think because I love the song so much I was really disappointed and the fact that the Guerande songs. Maybe it's an Arianna ground day problem. We just want Valentinas lip. Sing was the other Arianna Guerande Song. I think we've had on the show. So maybe there's some curse I don't know about. They really do her dirty. Like and I know that oriented grundy was being so sweet too because she put her story like her watching it and she loved that she tagged both Nikki Doll in saying how much she loved them and appreciate it. But I'm like girl now. You know you know this you because because of frigging Valentino. When she was in all stars four they think they gave Auriemma Grandad Song when she got when she won that challenge and he had to lifting for her legacy. Yeah I WANNA see that has been turned it out and I was like yes. So this is how is this is what are added deserves. Okay and now. We're going back from that to this again. I'm like Oh God give oriented be like. Don't don't ask my songs no more until you get some queens and know how to turn it out okay. Yeah like I only all want to say right. Yeah Brent. Who is there a possibility that they were just done to be in the bottom that they were not twenty minutes? You already knew what was going to happen. I. I don't think Dolly I feel about him. I really don't I really don't think she was going to be in the bottom. And I think the Nikki Dalia and crystal. We're GONNA be in the bottom line. I think they really were caught. Unprepared here for this. Which is why it was sort of pass and you know Niki in the next episode is going to be like shit. I turned it out. No says he didn't. I mean point taken. Maybe they maybe they. I mean W I'm hoping that the widow of undue is there to be able to be like girl that lifting rough. Do you remember the part the episode where somebody said something? I can't remember who it was and widow response was like looking at her nails and be like okay. That's what I expect to see exactly that type of response when we get the after you know after the lip sync own. 'cause yeah anyway whatever. Let's move on from this. Dolly is sent home even though is like easily could have seen both of them and Dalia is our queen eliminated from the season. Despite it being the third episode. Where either of you sad to lose Dolly? I'm sure on the eye candy is gone. Yes I'm said three on a bitch is gone I really I mean there's probably maybe that's partly why I'm being so hard on both of them because I'm like come on. I want you to stay. You're not giving it. You're not giving me what I want. Bad really go out this way. So annoying I like it because maybe regrow but I wasn't like that like shocked that she didn't really have like a closing line. Say you know what I mean. All of them were so as gassed. They were like how dare she she store. I don't even think it was that much of a storm off. It was more just like man. I'm disappointed and I'm has sent this. I JUST WANNA GET. Outta here like she did say I mean. She didn't blow them a kiss. Thank you before. It's not like it was like a complete like Fuck Kalamata here. So now she told Ruth. Thank you and then Walter. Stage why he wants. I mean not. Everybody has to have a vein on a moment. She was pissed. She thought she shouldn't have been in the bottom and she definitely thought she shouldn't have lost so she she had a lot of pressure coming in. She was just daughter and told her. Don't be the first one kicked off the show and she didn't WanNa be the first one kicked off and I you know I will say that I this how I feel about Dalia. She was an absolutely stunning queen. Who I felt like needed a little bit more time to bake the same thing that I said about. When she was on the show she needed a little bit more time to bake. I think she did herself a disservice. By addition for the show now she she needed a way to season. The ruble's drag race is going to be on a long time. You needed more time in the drag community more time to find yourself because the character that we saw during this challenge with somebody who was very shy was awkward was not prepared had no stage presence. Had No sense of timing had no sense of comedy and I feel like that could have been saved. Had she had more time to bake in the oven but they called her out now and Rudas and care grew needs some cannon fodder initially so you know some of these young queens you can't you can't tell them anything they think they're the shit and I think they're going to rule the world and then they drag racing. I'm watching the lip sync right now as we're talking and I'm so sorry I was listening to everything you just said brand but and I know I mean like why would you make yourself. A one thing to note is is that Nikki definitely played to the judges so much more. Because you can do 'cause I don't know how many people that watch the show and notice but the judges panel is like off to the left of the stage it's or it's actress stage right and on the camera that we see. That's supposedly seeing from the perspective but it's really not there's nothing there but just a camera and the entire time was playing to the camera where. Nikki's actually looking at them. So maybe that's a big reason why she lost because she wasn't even really engaging with them at all and Nikki was all over all over the judges. That's a really great point and now that I'm because I watched the lips twice and I do remember that that that Nikki was looking at the judges and Dalia was an us like she was always looking at us and put in performing to the camera. Which is why I feel. Like Trinity. Taylor lost her lip sync the first time they had the lip sync in the final four. And that's why peppermint one because covering was performing to the audience and Trinity was performing to the camera. A you always perform to the people in the Room Fox. The camera the camera pick you up eventually. Like seriously performed the people who are in the room to the judges to the audience. Whoever you're right that's why Nikki doll probably Dali. Is Death Stare at the camera? I felt that and that could absolutely be one of the reasons why she was sent home. Oh that and shouldn't in other words so that could also be a problem. I wonder if we're going to get any drama with Jada episode surrounding Deutsche Departure. Because you could see. Jada like shaking her head when they announced that Nikki ones. I don't know that Jada was like riding hard for you like that so I wonder have anything to say about it the next week. Yeah it seemed laid Dalian. Jada were pretty close. I was like half listening to untouched when I watched it. But they did talk about Jay. Go Yeah my girl Dahlia. So I think that they either had a relationship or develop the relationship being on the show and so. I'm sure that we'll see in the next episode. Some thing some sort of fall out from that we'll speaking of untucked. Is there anything that anybody wants to talk about with untucked? It was pretty boring. I'M NOT GONNA lie. Dan Give a pep talk more shitting on Aden. Rock's hilarious more shitting on Aden. Oh Lord Yeah I mean. I didn't really. I didn't really watch it too much. Offer too much commentary. Yeah then honest right. There really wasn't anything too and I'm really glad that either they didn't show it or the guest. Judge didn't come back and say hello to everybody and I'm really glad that the GAL from scandal didn't come back and say hello to the Queens. I really don't need all of the guest judges to go back there unless they are and this might sound a little gate keeping ish to me but I really don't. I'd just don't need unless you were performer. Like you're an actress or your thing like unless you are somebody that is well versed in the art of performance. I don't need you to come back and tell these queens anything because some of some of the some of the people that come back there and just like what are you here for like what like totally well next week we are going to have the Baugh episode. Bring it to the ball with Leslie. Jones is our guest. We couldn't get her the Improv. But instead we're GONNA ever for the ball challenge. Okay so excited. She's going to be there and they're going to have thirty six looks by. I am here on excited. It's going to be long podcast. We talk about every single. All thirty six bucks. I will say that. The repulsed wikipedia page better V. updated by that time because they're not updating the pages like they have in the past and literally as I totally on it in a month before this podcast because they didn't update the WIKIPEDIA. I had to go through and literally like take use my phone to take pictures of the runway as it was happening so I have all these dumb pictures on my phone of like. You know the Queen's and various frames which sometimes weren't great for me to get pictures of in an effort for me to be able to do this podcast but next week there's no point to be just twelve or thirteen looks. There's going to be thirty six looks and I'm really hoping that the WIKIPEDIA has an update. Because if not we're in for it I know Liana like had the actual episode open while we were doing this podcast and she was able to click forward as we were talking about the queen's so that she could have a reference for what you know each outfit look like you're not going to remember every Bo- in every color every button when you're trying to evaluate something so you have to have a reference point and visual references. Something that we all need. I wish that wiki page would get its shit. Well I know the problem is that they pulled the looks from no no no no this all the pictures from the Youtube video that gets put out with rage Raven and Raja that I watch every week that name. I can't remember fashion photo. Review of got. Okay my brain's fine. It's fine so they've pulled the pulled the photos so when they're talking about each individual queen we don't see anything they get the anyway. You know what it's not important but we have. We have a lot of people staying at home so get on it and pull pictures on the weakest. Exactly thank you. What else do you have to do? Besides help us do nothing else is going on in the world is ending. Please pull pictures is more important all right. Brian. Let's start to wrap things up. Where can people find you on social media? You can find me at one lucky gay. That's ones out. Oh e across all platforms on twitter snapchat instagram. But I mainly twitter boy and you were. And what do you have two podcasts? Wise House Big Brother candidates. So it's so interesting we were talking about privilege on this podcast because there's some things happening right now in the bigger candidate house right now. That have a lot to do with microaggressions and religion. How you view other people and it's just a part of the world that Y- I opening for me something that I'm even five years ago I noticed but now you you can't see anything but that so we're talking about big brother Canada and having a grand old time up until about today I love the cast but there are some people who are curly irritating with me but you know people always irritate me for something. None Big Brother. So where can people find? You can find me at Amman ad when a dwi on both twitter and instagram. Although I am chest a twitter person just rent. A few people have been friend requesting me on facebook as sort of like reserved that it'd be like a snob or anything but I saw like reserved facebook for people that I've actually met in person so don't take any offense if I can request. I'm the same way if you come from me on Facebook Lake unless I know you like random people from wherever the hell I don't I can follow back on twitter and everything like that but late. The facebook thing is more flake. Brennan family. You know and you can find me on social media at Liana. Boris also tweet a gal as you can see instagram. Confuses me because I couldn't find my messages on Instagram and I do respond. I am what else is going on in my world the RHA. Bnb We did this past week with Alli lascher which was so much. Mike Bloom and I talked about as so many insane things with Ali. A really fun. Check that out and then Speaking of Mike Bloom he was also a guest on the mass singer. Podcast which get together to talk about all things. 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FOF #2904  Kareem McJaggers Tales from the Cock

Feast of Fun

1:28:42 hr | 2 weeks ago

FOF #2904 Kareem McJaggers Tales from the Cock

"Happy halloween. Did you vote or are you prepared to have an orange rotten. Pumpkin haunt you again for the rest of your life. As a season of the witch wraps up our guest today is new. York city drag. Queen cozine mac jagger well known for her scandalous underwear parties at the clock. Yes it's a bar that serves drinks today. The house of davenport is in the house. And on the podcast listeners. Kareem mick jagger talks about transforming trash into treasure by recycling discarded pool cover and to a gorgeous blue dress fabulous music from her star studded collaborations. And how drag queens in chicago. New york and philly are putting pressure on gay bars to fight racism and increase diversity in their ownership and staff. Plus what kareem's moms say when she met her drag mom honey davenport anti juan hosts the world's biggest lgbtq pride event since the start of cova. I'm fausto for nas. I'm mark billion and this is feast of fun. Piece to fund has made possible because fabulous people just like you become a member today at least two dot com slash plus remember your contribution to this show is what makes this show happen. Thank you before we begin. Let's listen to draw. The blood kareem. Mick jagger's collaboration with honey davenport and azusa sponsored by gobert squirt skittles reagan bob again. This is really bad. Treat me like a on bitch. without low. greens a token conscious calling quite slow vision. We include beneath an incision on my decision. The raw backfield wet. You want race took the hugest hit on my pipe. Oh oh shit. Hey is somebody there. Hello hi is this kareem mick jagger that depends are you looking for student loans on the collection agency but we are here to steal your heart. Oh shit i need the money. I haven't been employed and so long. What's crisis that we talk about the black. I can look look. Look up the value on the dark web right now. You need deliver to all right down. Well anyways kareem. This is fausto and mark from define. It's a pleasure to have you on the podcast today. It is a pleasure to be on the podcast today. You guys are podcasting fucking legends. Oh please go on. I was just. I was just telling one of my friends i was like. It's not like the old disliked gay podcasts. It's like one of the oldest podcasts. In general so like. Oh my god stop definitely honored to be here. I am the third person to play faust. Okay just to you know. These are actors. It's owned by heartless multinational corporation and every so often like menudo. When we get old. We get replaced by younger versions of ourselves. That's right oh that's why you're so on instagram. Six mark feeling just to this world they just burn up and go if i could suggest a Something for the suggestion box for the corporate office if we could get some more thirst traps on instagram i think You know the consumers would definitely appreciate that like your thirst traps. Don't shoot korean. Who me mick jagger you have more thirst traps than probably any drag queen on social media on and i really like that on drag for fans. You're doing a number on your weight. Bench in fire island That was the that was the work from home number. Yeah that was That was my bootleg. Mtv moment i did a live show when i was out on fire island I got a ma boyfriend and one of his friends to hold the camera for me. So i could do my livestream on fire island and that was my opening number so i sang live and i had a portable speaker and my ipod on bluetooth that i had to carry around to each the different sets that we had so we had the blackout like lee carrying the music with me and then go into the next set. And how would it be lit and stuff like that. So we got a crowd fund. You tripod there for that camera. But it's got to go to different places you know and it was all one take so it was a live show tripod. Yeah you know i mean. He was holding the camera on a tripod and then he would put it down but yeah it was it was. It was art in green. Happy halloween did you vote. Or are you prepared to have an orange rotten pumpkin onto for the rest of your life. No i. I submitted my ballot to the dropbox. Yesterday on i guess on halloween yeah. I dropped my ballot into the dropbox on halloween. And i am very glad because new jersey had the option to vote in favor of cannabis and there was no campaigning that i saw around it which means they must expect it to pass with no problem. So i'm very excited for that. That's great so your you live in jersey. Yes i am the whole in hoboken right outside new york city did you. Vote for trump. Like little wayne said he would. Yeah three times actually. You know. I try to vote early and often so three making making america destroy itself again. Both chicago and new jersey are very familiar with government corruption. So you know you guys know a little bit about. What do you make like a. I think on this weekend on. Snl's update wayne met with president trump. This week to discuss trump's fubu platinum plan for the black community. I don't know what it's actually call minia surprised by little ways than -dorsements trump but keeping my little wayne puts costs there bright so grain saw look. It's weird that. I have to tell politicians this but are not black leaders. They're just rapper. Stop negotiating with them. They only do this with black people. I never saw candidate. Talking to gilbert godfrey about what to do in israel that be insulting right plus rappers are just way too busy to be leaders anyway. I love ice cube. But you know how many jobs he has on top of negotiating for black people you know. Malcolm and martin was such great leaders because they weren't also working on barbershop four they never ask or care about. Other musicians are endorsing but when it comes like black rappers. Such a shock to see somebody disconnected from the impact of republicans on black people's lives in the united states. That i guess when someone like little wayne endorses trump or cognac. Who is the other one. I t v fifty cents designed. Yes yes see. The thing is that we are getting things that should not be connected with. Commerce commercially so as a television network. Your job is to sell ratings. Just like as a podcast network and you know you run yours independently but the way that you make. Money is through selling ads through selling merchandise. Know whatever and so what. Are you going to do to get those ratings to those ads. You can go for what's going to get the most is what's gonna get the most viewers what's going to have the most shock value and unfortunately interviewing people who are educated. The most educated on the matter is not going to draw people into your network necessarily and that's the unfortunate thing about it so they turn to okay. Well what can we do for this shock value. What can we do to make people say. Oh my god and re tweet and share our things tune into our network and talk about us and fifty cents in. I'm voting for trump. Or i'm in favor of trump. That's that's a shocking thing that people were talking about and it's working and we're playing into it you know but also chelsea handler. Said she would give him another spin or she's used some play on words if he reconsidered his vote which he said he would do in response so not as many people talking about that. Because it's not quite as salacious. But it is something that i saw as i was scrolling so chelsea handler said that if she basically had sex with one of these guys that they would change their opinion politically or i don't understand what that means so chelsea handler and fifty cents used to date. That's right. I told blatantly forgot and chelsea said he was. I think Her favourite x. Or something like that. And so when she saw his tweet i think she either reached out to him privately or tweeted him or something like that and you know. Have your fact checkers on staff. You know make sure that this is all factual but She somehow said you know. Hey i'm willing to give this another shot if you know for a night or something Basically said basically imply she was gonna fuck up. He took back his endorsement and he was like. Hey sounds good to me or something. He gave it some kind of affirmation. I'm not exactly sure on the details. But i do remember scrolling. Pass a screenshot at that but also photoshop thing so somebody could photoshop that for the joke of it all either way. I think that part that in particular part of it kind of polaris. I think one of them was saying like i'm looking my taxes. Like is trump is going to save them a bunch of money on taxes. Thanks to but i don i also feel like maybe so. We're going to send the irs on you if you don't endorse trump and like okay. The thing about it is is like you know. people's taxes are going up under trump. Like they're like. Have you talked to any kind of republican person. They're like well he's just going to pass those tax cuts again if he gets elected. I'm like i think those tax cuts are set to expire so regardless of. Who's in charge. They're going to go up and a lot of under trump's tax code. A lot of people can't do deduction so everybody especially people are self employed like you and lady bunny are probably paying more taxes this year. Because you guys can't deduct as much now. Now i'm not an accountant. Just what everybody is saying. You definitely not my expertise. My area of expertise either but you know to pay for the things that the government needs to do. It's going to have to come from somebody and if you have more of the pie you should probably be able to contribute more. You know just generally speaking. That sounds like a principle that work. Well that's what a lot of conservatives are actually saying that corporations and republicans are endorsing biden. This time around because the way they see it as under trump there's volatility. They're thinking they're going to get a big slice of a much smaller pie trump and so they're thinking of having a smaller slice of a bigger pie under biden actually works out in their favor. Most business people the volatility. They don't like chaos. They want something that's secure get married. So how was your. What did you do to celebrate. Halloween in hoboken new york had the lamest low key and stress-free halloween As a as a drag queen address up all year and so. I usually try to give myself. How being off unless somebody is offering ridiculous amounts of client. And i'm like how all of y'all dress up for me. Because i usually dress up for y'all so as sat back i turned on the simpsons Another jersey drag queen friend of mine red rum came over and we watched the simpsons. We scroll through instagram. We liked to pictures of boys in basic costumes and speed os and stuff like that you know. We saw a lot of people that were complaining about people's basic costumes. And i was like first of all that makes me look a lot better when i do. My looks in comparison because my sheet is good you know. Give me a good comparison on that. And also i like seeing boys and speed and nearly naked and body paints so if they need a holiday to do that and have that. Excuse fill up my feet. That i'm here for your for your legendary underwear parties at the cop which is a gay bar new york city yes yes Sort of an underground but still underground but still internationally known Bar in new york city No longer employed there. But i did have a very salacious tenure of Doing they're doing underwear party there for about three years. What's happening with like the bar scene in new york city and the drag queens and stuff with the covid pandemic your imagine everything shutdown. Neither shows or bars even open. You know. it's the bars are starting to open back up. they've allowed some indoor seating. i think at like twenty five percent capacity or something like that. I'm not exactly sure on the numbers They have They have some some queens coming in and hosting and So there might be you know. Some performances may be allegedly. Don't quote me on that but they They had some drag queens hosting at places like In our industry. And i'm not exactly sure where off the top of my head just because everything is changing. Every weekend we've had a few a few bars open up within the last couple of weeks as the the guidelines have changed and stuff like that but there are a few a few girls doing brunches at various venues. A few girls doing some Some night hosting and some outdoor shows as well as some people have been doing. I city that never sleeps. I mean this is a big change right to to having like twenty four hours a day. You know Party new york city life and then just kind of like for the past was seven or eight months now. just remarkably changed. Well like i. I follow a blog called thought ac- by a guy named jim sylvestry and he usually lists all the shows on all the parties that are going on every day. And he's changed a lot of his his listings to digital shows. And so he'll say you know. This queen is hosting at this venue in this neighborhood. This queen is hosting at this neighborhood in this venue and now he started dividing it instead of by neighborhood. He'll still divided by neighbor. He'll also divide it by platform as well. So he'll say here's who's hosting on twitch tonight cures hosting on instagram live tonight. Here's who's hosting on. Facebook live tonight. So that's been sort of thought. Ac- has been my go-to as far as seeing what's going on in the drug scene in new york. Are you following the digital shows. Yeah here and there. You know like i've tried to check in. Why do the digital drag shows sucks so much. I'm just gonna head out there. I'm like every drag queen and say it's like they're like they don't watch other drag queens digital drag shows and part of it i think is your. They're not they're not posting them. So you can skip through them. You have to watch it live. Even this prerecorded. And i'm like the thing i like about all digital media is if like if i get bored just get thirty seconds. People do it with this podcast. You have really hit the nail on the head with and one of the things that has really been really been something that i've been leading towards. Is you mentioned drag four dot fans earlier where i can do like a live show because my my digital success has mostly been through my solo shows like. I'm happy to submit a number in somebody else's show but it's most likely not going to make me hardly any money if any money at all like i've definitely done digital shells i've made zero dollars but what i can do is upload either individual numbers or a whole show a record it and then i can put it on my drag for fans profile either for individual download or for my subscribers that you know pay the subscription fee every month it sounds really dirty though like drag for fans. That's not like like porn and drag queens and stuff like that. I mean they don't censor it could be it's It's the same company as just for just for that fans so you now they have basically the same standard so if you want to throw on a face you know how was saying that like a lot of these reu girls. We're gonna take their pants off because you go to these forums and like all. These people are like her mind her body. Oh beautiful. I wish i were married. Her and i'm just like manna. You've been drinking the rupaul. Kool-aid they're out like well. It's just a matter of time. You know when the gigs dried up with rhona that some of these queens are gonna whip out their meat or other body parts and mad at it. you know. i'm here for it. And i'm like i. I think it's very democratic. But at the same time i'm like do we really wanna see somebody's but might like to see their but maybe but sometimes you know mystery as part of the is something people do dragons so you don't know sir potty politics in the makeup i don't wanna be shady you know it was like an and i guess i am being shady but it but it is interesting. Funny because it's like for years drag queens. We're like i would never do something like that. Know the lady protest too much and alverson like well. Well well who's weapon out the corner used to be back. Dr who never want you to know her real name and now because of facebook in all these tv shows like drag races like we know most of their real name. I remember getting into so much trouble. Because we asked a drag queen one time the origins of her name and and it was like you should never ever that name and now drag races like you know started misunders misunderstood resonating because we call her alex and she was just like never ever. How could you. That was fifteen years ago. Those played other actors. A i feel like that's sort of a a definitely a generational thing. There were when i first moved to new york drag queens if you call them. They're drag name out of drag. It was a big deal. There are drag queens that i have worked regularly with that. I'm like. I'll introduce them. And i'll be like oh fuck. I forgot your boy name. Which i should say out of drag name because not all. The night defies wars. Yup but i forgot your street name. I forgot your government. Whatever 'cause i'm used to referring to you by your drag name and introducing you on stage and remembering one name is really hard for me so remembering to danes is asking. It's rough industry to i. Don't go out as much now. All because of covid people get matt. Because you don't remember the name and you're like i met you at a bar. It was three. Am in the morning. And i was wasted. Why i would remember your name. You boughten you bought me fifteen shots and you expect me to remember and you told me like i was first of all doing my job which was selling alcohol because at the end of the day you look at Who gets booked an you know on the local level and how it works and it all comes down to unsettling covers and or are you selling drinks so other talent you know. Sometimes it's not about talent it's about who sells and that's entertainment in general not just drag but some drag queens make selling drink so much part of their act that like wednesday kind of get you know right now. Unfortunately it's like it's either american idol repulsed drag race or cupcake wars when the queen's get on drag race and they're you know who is the one that mrs kasha davis it's always time for a cocktail and i'm like and yet she's like you know like she would she'll get in a car accident and she's hanging off of cliff for dear life and should be always time for a cocktail. I'm like lady this other things to do right now at and bianca del rio's that way to she's always like let's drink shots. Who wants to buy me a shot and stuff. And i'm just like girl you're not you're no longer at a bar but it is kind of comforting to in a way that they're still you know very much the five and dime never leaves them jimmy dean. One of the one of the things i've been doing. My digital shows is doing a fundraiser aspect. Where i'll cells are sell shots for twenty five dollars so if you tip twenty five dollars or more i donate half of that to selected charity and i have to take a shot or you can request me to do any number and i'll do that for you as well and i raised a lot of money and had very fierce hangovers from doing it but raised a lot of money for a couple of really good causes. So you know it's I always encourage people to make sure that they keep the economics of the night in mind. Because if there's not a cover the way that we make money to pay you as a queen in a bar is five. What's going in the till which comes from the drinks that we sell. So until somebody or there's kareem mick jagger so if somebody's offering to to buy you a by drink why not be like. Hey fuck that drink. Let's do a shot together and let's do a shot with all of your friends and now it's a social experience now even more interaction with me and the bar does better you know and so everybody wins but you can only do that to a certain point you know. I don't wanna get to the point where you're sloppy and you can't do your job or anything like that. We've never seen a drunk sloppy drag queen on a microphone before you know who who got really famous. She fell asleep because she was so drunk. On a streaming video the latina girl. I don't remember name. So how many thousands of dollars did she making these tank. But that's lightning strikes. Once you know what i mean. You can't fall asleep twice still make money doing that. You know and no shit no shade to this queen but none of us can remember her name so there is a friend her on facebook afterwards. I think i've seen dry respond. I don't know if she's speaks english. Let's give her props. Let's give a name. He santos remember her name. Surname florida. So you're so you're new york queen living in hoboken but you also work the fire island said you do. That is something you do every summer. No this is my first summer on. Fire island My boyfriend has jack. Aaronson has been on fire island doing a piano bar In the pines every summer for the last seven or eight years and so he lives in florida during the winter and he rents a house up there and so i was like rather than being in my apartment in the city. Why not go live at the beach for the summer. Boom was right. Yeah yeah and also be able to also be able to see the man that i love like also that part. You're covid sex buddy happening there. Oh god like it was. Ooh it was getting really real. It was getting really serious so it was very nice to to have that companionship. You feel like your sex. Life has improved with the ronan. Like you're like y'all mine bitch. I it has definitely it has definitely definitely Made us connect in a very different way so i am not necessarily Leading one who leans towards monogamy but with all the risk factors and stuff like that. This is the most monogamous. I've been in a very long time through the aids crisis we got prep and all of a sudden. The ronan comes in. And it's like fuck this even kiss someone. I know a kiss a kiss right before you. You know you can kiss somebody at least get a blowjob or jerk each other off. You can't do any of that. Go to steam room and drop my pants anymore. Like i miss being able to go out and like make out with the dude and then wake up and be tagged and photos the next day and be like all sh- et like that's not even an option anymore. Somebody takes photo. What is this per procedure. That's happening so you're out in a bar and someone sees you making out with some hot guy takes pictures of you and then shames you on instagram by tagging. No no no no no. This is just like we've made out or we're flirting and talking and it's leading up and then somebody takes a picture and post that they don't talk post the pictures of making out to shame you is just you see attacked picture the next day in a different context. And you're like oh that's the dude. On may don't was on your. I never been so drunk. The next day i was like i really regret that i seen faster that drunk and i've i regretted it for him. You did that now. Look next time you'll come to new york next time y'all come to new york you'll have to hang with me. I will show all the good times. And y'all definitely have things that you regret. The next day i i've never been to the cock i want to go. He's never been to the cock every time new york. We're always like busy doing stuff and seeing friends while we were one time we were at the drag con thing and yeah and i always have a good time at those things. People are always like the the secret to it is don't go to the if there's a line skip it. Yeah by the time you get end of any the same well. Disneyworld disneyland different. But if there's a long line for something chances are there's a human being at the other end and when you get to the end of the line that person's already exhausted and they don't want to have anything to do with you. Lady gaga showed up at one of those meet and greets really are dying to meet honey davenport. I'm sure how to davenport watt off the drag queen and says. I don't smile for photos. I'm like yeah because you're meeting five hundred screaming children and they're like mommy. Mommy by the drag queen in smile or the photo mommy mommy like up as a clown today and that's the thing that people don't often get is that like what we do is drag queens is emotionally draining. Let each interaction that we have when we're out and when we're doing our job and even when we go out and we're not doing our job each little interaction that we have takes a little bit of our emotional energy and so at some point that's going to run thin or you're going to have to budget in some way because we're humans to we only have so much of that to give and so Especially during during events like drag con. I would encourage anyone who is watching to be especially compassionate and easy on the queen's as far as their energy levels and your interactions. I think you could do all that stuff and you just leave it at the club so you can't just leave the club anymore at all comes home with you because it lives on instagram and then your emails and and kind of video that you have so it's your cons. People know where to find it by. I'm korean mick jagger and she was not as nice that she was on the podcast she misrepre senator self. She was supposed to be sociable. Nice lady five stars manager. This pay grade work with a lot of amazing people make all this great music earlier. We heard. draw the blood for halloween. Let's play around Singles cocoa badeah. Do i set it up. Yes so this was a collaboration that I worked on with honey davenport while she was on track race A little bit after she was on drag race because she wasn't on for very long. But i put up her things. She was from the house of davenport. She is the lowest placing davenport on. Rupaul's drag race. Thirteen at least like three davenport's from the house of course right is that right. yeah Well i mean there were three on on her season. She season eleven so there was a a curia is a davenport and raja de o'hara the da's for davenport so three on her season But they all made it farther than her because well you know no shade anybody else but it's not a talent contest is a tv show but It opened up so many doors. As far as what we were able to do creatively and the opportunities that we had to work with people and This was one of them. And so i was on honey's corp production team for basically everything that she did for about a year Surrounding the whole drag race thing and so one of the things that we ought to do was collaborate with Neutral bell aka. Chris week weaver from the voice My brother chase vegas as an honey's other drag child because honey davenport is my mother so so then right yes. We like to say the davenport silent. Because i came up with my name and my persona before. She took me into the family. But i am technically a davenport and we also had will sheridan a rapper from brooklyn. Who has been killing it for probably. I wanna say it's been a decade that he's been putting out music. Maybe definitely closer to a decade. But not attack. But he's been putting out music for a while. And so we all got together with mitch. Forino who produced a brown cow studying klatt a bunch of tracks for a bunch of people And this was a really this. When i heard this instrumental because i was you know i was looking. I was listening to the instrumentals with honey when she was picking them out and we both really fell in love with this because it had such a great soulful arm be Sound to it and it was shocking that it came from mitch because it's so different from his anything else that i'd ever heard from 'em before we'll talk music so let's let's hear this this cocoa butter featuring jas vegas kareem mick jagger need rebel and will sheridan and when we get back from the break we're going to be hearing all the dirt and all the tea in the new york club scene. Stay tuned deer black people. Have you ever realized that you've got about five seconds after you shower to moisturizer four you will turn into a pillar of having a beautiful week. God on we're having a beautiful zuma government. We skating sauce and head swelled mad. Turn your finger taped fake lip. Sing embellished jealous. Y- gummy sue. Touch skin honey. Get you bound and sin from head. And i'm your ruckus shannon brown. Judy judy fro ecstasy. Highbrow cherish brownstein of the suit. Them live in romanian kokin. Girl sizzling cocoa butter spread it recently on facebook. You had a status updates saying it was practically a hate crime for somebody to not have a moisturizer hand. Moisturizer in their bathrobe. Was that inspired by this song. Cocoa butter it was a similar sentiment. So here's the thing especially now that we have a highly contagious pandemic on hands. It's essential for everybody to wash their hands. Washing your hands multiple times a day is just what you do like if you weren't doing it before definitely do it now. But the way soap works it bonds greece on your hands oil on your hands to the water and the water washes away. So it takes the moisture and the The oils essential oils from your hands which need to be replenished. And so if you're out and you wash your hands and your dark skinned your hands turned gray because your skin is dry now. If you're not dark skinned your skin still gets dry but you can't see it as much okay. Recall it as she. So we don't want to be ashy so the thing to do to encourage people to wash. Their hands is to have a lotion available. So that they can replenish the oils in their skin. Wants the soap strips it away. It's the hygienic thing to do. You definitely want to wash hands of course as often as you candidate. But i'm not a big proponent of the moisturizer thing is because like i feel like maybe your hands get kind of addicted to it. When i lived in europe. I washed dishes in a hotel on the in the in the guys there and they're like my hands are so dry he's like. Don't worry you'll get used to it. Don't add more moisturizer to it'll just make it worse. I'm like okay. And i didn't and i'm just like i don't know i feel like i'm okay. Well i four zero. Yeah one time. We saw michelle williams performing for a crowd of about one hundred people at one of those charity. Fundraiser's things here in chicago and everybody was like. They're like digging it and love and and stuff and then all of a sudden they're like what their ankles she had greased her calls so much like what is going on. It was worried that her her ankles would look dry so she was awesome wearing a very expensive dresses. She didn't want the grease to go up like on the next. I oh boy. And that's the other thing is if you if you put who much like thick moisturizer on and then you're under bright lights. It looks like ash even though your skin is moisturizing if the light is to brighton then it reflects often. It looks like ash. Well if it wasn't for beyond say michelle williams would be one of the top players in destiny's child and she was definitely holding her own but it was just like it was so distracting. 'cause we were like we were watching that the greasy ankles and i was like going just didn't make any sense and i'll end in want ash sheet. Well i don't understand what it was going on but it was. I think she was like in a hurry or their dressing room at that hotel was fucked up. You know 'cause like one time we saw her and ask her why her ankles. We saw jennifer holliday and she was skinny skinny jennifer holliday and she was singing. She was like. I'd like to sing some songs on new album and the whole crowd was like no. We're here to see hear you sing. And i'm telling you from dreamgirls and she's like she's like damn so she's lake turns to the guy who's playing. This is a long time ago so it was like the cassette tape. So okay how okay and at and this one fan. He was so in love with her. He grabbed his. Young man grabbed a bunch of tulips at runs through the states as well from the from the table on the tech. This is one of those like hoity. Toity like there with our ceo now so it was me and my friend. Jason were there at were. You were there. And so we're sitting there and the record. She did not have greasy ankles. she jennifer holliday. Look fabulous and this guy grabs the tulips and is trying to like hand them to her and she's like singing like and i am telling you you know like she does like. She does always flawless performance. She is like about ten feet away from me seeing this legendary song and this this young man is about to ruin it over and people were just like you know what. Let him have his moment. Standing there on stage there was no security. This is before september eleventh so there was no security and people are just running up to her. There's just like i love you. You save me from killing myself. There's just like well. Maybe i should look. This is this is before they started charging for meet and greets with rupaul's drag marine. Greet to me. It was totally ruined everything now now celebrities out of this bubble around them. You can't get to them. You know you've worked. Honey mahogany a lot of people. Know her from rupaul's our. I'm sorry honey. Davenport davenport hog. He's the san francisco queen. She's not elected mahogany. But yeah import in so honey. Davenport worked with. She was kind of she after she was on drag race She came back and she had worked at a bar. I think it was called the monster and was just like this place sucks. This guy owns. The place is racist and nobody work here. We were you there for that. I was there. I was there when she was first informed about it. I am formed about what. What's what's going informed about the situation on a friday night. She had gotten word for mitch about it was a response to a flyer. There was there was two gogoi's on it. One of them was dark. Skinned and the manager at the time general manager said that one of the edits. The flyer was we need some beautiful men. I believe he said on this flyer. It was something to that effect and so everything sort of blew up from there. What honey davenport wanted to do actually was have a town hall forum like the chicago. Black drac council had that was her goal however long ago year year and a half ago was to bring the bars together. Because this wasn't the first time that something like this that a bar had been called out on something that happened. That was very racially charged in new york. So she was like. Hey this happened with this bar. This happened with this. This happened with this far. Let's have a public forum and talk about this problem that keeps coming up and how we can take steps to stop to solve it I'm not exactly sure what happened. As far as the progression of events that sort of led to the blocking of that but somehow it turned into people filing lawsuits. And this. And that neil who who filed lawsuits about what. I probably should not go into that. Because i was not directly involved but it turned into a very big thing that did not involve. Hey let's sit down and talk as a community about how to solve this process of this problem of racism at gay bars in new york. And so that's something that is still on honey's mind She mostly lives in l. a. But she does a lot of stuff in new york still and so she. I think would probably welcome the chance to bring people bring the important people together. That really have power in the scene and come up with a way to make sure that things like this. Don't keep happening because it's you know it's not an isolated incident. No it's definitely not an isolated until there's a fact you know faster used to work for the gay paper in town and the were bar owners then would come into the newspaper and say i don't listen. You showed a bunch of black people in the newspaper at my bar. Don't do that again. i'm gonna pull my advertising. Allegedly right allegedly. Because we were saying. It's like that's the thing because they don't want to they don't want it to appear like literally it was like with the monsters like we don't want to make this look like a black knight because that's bad for business out that's obviously not a direct quote raises as the the keeley. He'll of the gay bar scene in most cities and right now with this pandemic and they're all shutdown people to realize like you know what if they don't get their shit together. There is not going to be a gay bar scene when we when this pandemic ends. I mean bars and nightlife is already on the decline with the advent of the online dating and hooking up seen so really it just makes business sense for people to draw in as much of a crowd and has a diverse crowd is possible to me anyway. I mean i've never run a bar completely myself. I've run a night at a bar but it just seems to make business instill want as many people to feel welcoming your establishment as possible and it's not fair to group all bars in the same block but the thing about it is is that some of these bars are being owned and manage by some people who have a lot of human relation issues and you know and part of the reason. They're running these bars. Because i don't want to be seen by the public and so the the whole idea of doing like a public forum with owners of these bars. It's like they don't want to be seen they're they're they're they're hiding. They want to check back in the day. If you owned a gay bar you know it's pretty much like basically won the lottery because you're just gonna have all these people coming through but you know times have changed you know like you said people don't necessarily have to go there anymore for their entertainment and so if things don't change and if people don't feel welcomed its tiktok time might be over in my is what makes a successful business is figuring out what needs to be done. And what is a priority so if the health inspection needs to be passed you figure out what needs to be done to pass that health inspection and you make sure your staff does it. Because it's a priority so if diversity and inclusion in your programming and you're hiring practices and stuff like that is enough of a priority to you to make money you'll figure it out and that's just how businesses around you watch the town hall with the chicago. Black drag queen council. What did you make of it. Oh like i have my good butter popcorn for that. I think it was cute. I think it was a huge step in the right direction. I mean shimmy is shimmy. The moderator was one of like one of my heroes. You know like. I've been like okay. That's that's something that like. I could see myself doing like that was really. i mean. She handled the fuck about that. Burlesque guards stand moderator right. Yeah yea but her day job is. She has some kind of like public relations. Something or other. I forget what she does for but doing moderating something like this was something that's in her wheelhouse professionally right. Yeah it's not actually like. I read this book exactly. It is extraordinary that that even took place because you know for years. People have tried to have a reckoning with this kind of racism and inequality right. Yeah the thing about it is like when you call something out individually as a person of color when you're the only person of color in the room a lot of times people will say things like. Oh you're being too sensitive or oh that's not. You know that you took it the wrong way or something like that. And they'll sort of gaslight you into being like oh maybe i am wrong about this or maybe. This isn't the environment where it's productive to speak up about it but if you pull people together and say hey okay. This many people see a problem with what it is that you're doing so here's a way that you can fix it. And here's what's going to happen if you don't fix it and you have a critical mass of people that are like oh that happened to me too. Oh i was thinking the exact same thing. Okay what is it that we want then people respond and from what i can tell from the the the work that the chicago black drag council has been doing things are actually moving in a productive way. I mean if nothing else darby. Lynn cartwright has changed her name and And t rex Has you know has become less of an obstacle to several people of color. That's a real nice way to put that. I did like. What is it. The listeners out there might recognize Darby lynn cartwright who was a episode of cooking with drag. Wins with us back with her. dixieland cartwright for the records. She did mention to me that somebody said her name was racist many years ago and i said yes in fact it is racist because it hearkens to the south. And she's just like well. I don't think it means that anymore and i'm just like well. It doesn't matter what you think. It means it means how was perceived so glad she has gone ahead and changed it to. What does it derby lynn. it's droopy. Lynn is really great. Because now you can throw some shade. Her way it'd be like what's your name out droopy darby. Yeah therapy attracts you mentioned access. Also we did a drag queens. Her and her name at the time was traffic. The chicken fingers with her and There there is a lot of inequality but there's also like a consolidation of opportunities and you know certainly rupaul's drag races not help that to some degree you know it's like there's a lot of excitement. The scene that some of these queens came in had a large number of drag queens. That through this podcast and cooking drag queens also made their way onto rupaul's drag race so i think like for us. We had five drag queens. Who were not known at the time. Go through that chain right so it was like they did. These shows these bars. Then they came on this podcast and then they went on cooking drag queens and then they got on rupaul's drag race so people in their minds started thinking that somehow us and some of these other people were gatekeepers. And i'm like honey. I'm just a guy with a microphone. You know me because you've been listening to this podcast for years and you know we're hustling and bustling like anybody else and we just happened to have good taste. It's just so you know we saw really great talent and we were like we wanna make these movies with you and it just happened race successful and that was that was just a lightning in a bottle and not necessarily you know it's not something that would strike out. It's about doing things to right. And so if you're a producer rupaul's drag race. You're gonna look at queens. It'd be like who. what are they doing. are they appearing on podcast. Are they doing interviews. Are they doing video. Projects doing these kinds of things you know. So we're going to have to work hard to media. Train them so that we can get the exposure out of them that will be most productive to what it is that we're producing. Which like i mean even with like you guys and what you are doing like is a step in the right direction for being on a show. Rupaul's drag race like it's right in line. Where's my check www face-to-face dot com slash plus. Why don't want to be. Podcast is like hit me up on van. No cash But but you are head just for the record Kareem mick jagger. What what is your moa cash app and stuff like that. Oh it's all at karim mick jagger k. a. r. e. e. m. m. c. j. h. e. g. e. r. pay pal cash up then mo instagram drag for fans. She likes consistency with brian. Her branding so again express will do nicely. Thank you would you like me to. It's it's it's a it's a similar situation with Bob the drag queen image. Free now started this party. Look queen in In new york city and every. I'm pretty sure. Every single winner of that competition has gone on to represent new york on rupaul's drag race even sheltered at the queen of new york. Brita filter was well. Brita filter was my co host for my saturday party for a few years. But she don't think ever did look queen as the competition but Sasha lured dusty ray bottoms alexis michelle. I wanna say was a winner. Sure about that. Sherry pie did win. Sugar cane one. What's up with sherry sherry pies very happy. This happened because she's like shoot. Nobody's talking about me more. Look every so often. You know the news cycle changes and it's a relief to somebody like you better believe it but i just hope that the The people that were affected by her actions have found some kind of peace in the science definitely Hey rupaul's drag race won a couple of emmys for that season including casting and editing. So i mean. They ended her out of the season. Why wouldn't they win. Bang up job. Because i'm sure a lot of the original plotlines centered around her because she us a very talented individual Unfortunately she made some choices that were very detrimental to a lot of people's lives. I heard a rumor that there was a drag queen who was sharing like selfies or dick pic or something like that and she was supposed to be on this season a drag race and go new york some new york. Yeah flown out there. They flew out there she i. I don't even know if they taped anything or they just put on a plane. Just send it right back you know. I heard rumors about new york city. Queen that did that months ago. But i am not sure about the validity of it because i was not there that night so i can confirm that. The rumor has gone around. You know it is like i think with a lot of these drag queens. There is a lot of jealousy and it is little game to some degree you know and so people are just like goings. Like who does she think she is to be on drag race. She just like she was doing all these terrible things. I have the receipts and the timestamps so on yeah and it literally opens up another spot for queen to make you know and appearance for a drew girl is like ten times the amount that you know a regular appearances like for a local girl and this is as like a resident not even as a host like twenty times thirty times more. You know her onlyfans is going to be super well after that. Well yeah you know or just for fans which just for fans is actually queer owned in american owned and hasn't had trouble paying their people. So trying to trying to slander. Anybody trying china slander fans bad. Just for fans queer owned good right. look mouth. You can rewind and hit fifteen four seconds backwards. If you need to hear what i said but i am saying that just refinance has not had any trouble paying their people on time and their own american owned this hot tea or spilling here kareem. I've just feel like the phrase hot teas been like over. It's like saying hunt and by the way hunting t shirts are still available on our website not expired but i just feel like hot tease. A little overused. What do you think this red wine has been left out the breeze. You know just spitballing here. Trust you know. i like that better. The fine wine being drunk. Ooh it is full body. Yes glass of wine right now. I am drinking a glass of pinot. Noir how fancy and deliver some nice so just hosted the what. They think is the largest. Lgbt in person event post cove at one hundred and thirty thousand people showed up in taiwan for their Lgbt pride a you know it's like here. We are hunkered down in taiwan. Who you know got you know word of this corona virus very early and was just like stopped letting foreigners come into the country Now they haven't had cronin like forever. You know who else got word of a the corona virus pretty fucking early like forty five split pretty quickly but also they're their government really got on it and they're in a culture that Is considerate of other people. And they're used to. I'm sick. I don't want to spread it to other people so i'm going to wear a mask or i'm going to stay home so they handled the problem and now they're able to do that. You know just like my mom would say well if you would have done your if you would have done your homework you could be out playing right now but you haven't done your homework so i guess you sitting in here until you get your homework done and just to clarify. We're very pro immigration and program immigration rights. We don't want to be positioning immigration as the cause or the escalation of the pandemic while they didn't let foreign travellers and it's not like i'm just saying like ban on immigrants but like when you have a pandemic you shut up. You shut down travel from foreign countries so that they don't come. But i think the most critical thing here is having health care for everybody having centralized leadership having you know measures to be enacted and enforced which in the united states regardless of how you feel about travel whatever. Those things not happening here in this country has been the reason why we are number one in infections and new infections. And you know. I've been studying the spanish flu from nineteen. What is it nine hundred. Eighteen and in the musical chicago takes place in years after that and i was thinking i was like well. What did they find cures twenties. Now they just gave up and they just had like so many people die and they're so that's part of the the viciousness and the weirdness like if you look at the musical chicago these two women who are murderers and they're being celebrated right and i guess you know that time period there. Was this really dark. Humor or dark sensibility. Twisted sensibility. Because there was this is very so much stuff because there were so much that and then the whole world was like you know what. I'm just giving up on trying. They both reached for the gun but he was like. I'm not getting within six feet of you. Had a comment comment. Could you know our friend. Just went to korea to study korean and he got you know he landed in the airport and he got into a van with a bunch of other people. They were all taken to a hotel where they had to stay for fifteen days in a hotel room. He was not allowed to leave the hotel room then he could go see family extended family and then he could go to his classes and his classmates and stuff like that. And so you know there's right ways to do these things and hotel room he did. Yeah oh he had also you just have to budget that into your wow party plane ticket honey. That's called airport fee and at the same time if you can't afford to do that and you can't afford to. You know be have that consideration for your fellow man in or your fellow person in that environment in the middle of a pandemic. you don't need to travel. I might you know. Start doing some bob. Fosse dance moves soon enough. What do you. What do you make of this. What do you what do you think is going. I don't want to. We want to get people to vote right now and part of me is thinking. I don't want to get people to americans have suffered enough under trump. but if you haven't voted now please vote and vote for biden if you're in pennsylvania. Yes again wisconsin arte tax. And so go ahead. I'm sorry also. The local elections are important. Like i mean. The presidential elections are a lot of times about ideals and principles and stuff like that but the things that affect your daily life including liquor laws including if you work at nightlife including tax codes and stuff like that decided the things that most immediately affect your daily life often decided on the local level and so even though this this presidential election is supremely important. These local elections are supremely important as well. Because if you're dissatisfied with the choices that you have you know who's running in these local elections some third party people that are about some like really different principals. Who could be groomed to actually be viable candidates in the senate in the house of representatives in the state legislature. Perhaps even the presidential election for the next go round for the mid term elections you got to vote in the midterm elections to vote for your governor's vote for your city council your school board because those are the things that will affect your day to day life a lot more than whoever's in the white house you know who has ranked choice voting so they don't have it basically to kind of middle. The road candidates fighting for the top spot. Does that kademi awards when you vote for best picture. It ranked choice voting. So that's that's why like the best picture. Actually wins is like light. For example and overall land thanks a lot of faye dunaway by the way but but it is you know part of it is because they have ranked choice voting so the the the people can put their first and second and third and fourth choice not unlike the iowa caucus work. Yeah yeah. I mean we let them go first. So maybe we should take not to pursue. What are you making like a you know. You're you're a queen on the scene whether her ear to the ground on their finger on the pulse what are you gonna may what what is to come on tuesday. What they're certainly people are saying. This ain't over on tuesday. Yeah i mean even if it is a landslide like there are so many lawsuits that are already in place There's it's whatever happens. It's going to be contested like we're going to be opening our presence and being like okay so who's going to be inaugurated lie. I don't know if it'll take that long. But i don't think that I don't think that will get a result that we can fully be sure of on tuesday That said you know. I thought that there was no way that president in our forty five could have won last less time. We we we we had. We had an election. So i might not be the best person to ask about it right now. I mean my is that biden's going to win and it's going to be. It's going to be a major win. But i also thought of that about hillary clinton so what you did. That's the thing it's like you know with this whole electoral college bullshit really tied to the history of slavery in the united states which by the way the same reason gay bars are struggling with. Racism is the same reason. America star struggling with racism. And it's going to be our undoing if we don't black lives matter was probably the most heroic and the most patriotic thing happening this past year and just didn't grasp that this is about making everybody's lives better right. Yeah because like literally the cure for everything like why. Don't we have as many people working on it as possible. So if you're holding down black people if you're holding down latino people if you're holding down asian people if you're holding down poor people. Those are people that could be have access to education and have innovative ideas. That could bring us up as a collective country and you're blocking them. 'cause you have some kind of bias celebrate christmas and puerto rican household honey. You're going to get a plate of food. You know what i'm saying and that's how we can solve problems it's like. It takes a variety of people and cultures and perspectives to overcome any kind of challenge. We face but the rich and powerful view it like that they lose their power overall by. I'm actually love each other and like each other and get along with each other. It's you know keeping a separate keeps them in power and they view. Racism is like the driving economic engine of this country. And they don't wanna lose that so we have to trust them. I'm trying to make a play at the seder. I'm trying to make a plate turned fucking like the christmas. I'm trying to go to seven fishes over here like what are you all doing for no chip when like. I'm trying to have all the leftovers. Okay i think you know. Part of this is in this past year like hearing conversations about racism. Black lives matter and i'm curious to hear your thoughts on this. Is that like especially a lot of people. And we're talking about you know People who are white anglo saxon protestants who when told you're racist or your actions are racist or your assumptions or beliefs are racist. They took that as an insult. As an affront as an attack. And i think you know part of the most important thing that we can do is when someone tells you you're being racist treat that as an opportunity for growth assume. It's an act of love. Not not of anger hate. I mean there's a are there but it's part of it is like that person is asking you to change to be a better person right and one thing is to recognize that the person that is calling you out is taking on risk emotional labor by doing so because usually that is met with met with opposition from somebody who has more power than you it puts the person calling you out in a very vulnerable in precarious position and also it is meant to help you like being called out for doing something racist equating you to being a skinhead or being hitler or being something else you know and maybe it's like you know maybe because people just can't take their you know their feel their fees will get hurt. Maybe we need to call it. You know you're being biased right now or something like that but like if you're doing something that is a racist action. Yeah you need to be called out for it and what you need to do is not say no. I've already done this. And this and this and all my friends are black and the black dude. Whatever maybe you need to be okay. Well why do you think that and listen to their perspective because a lot of times what happens when people especially in america talk about their oppression. People who do not experience that oppression have all of the opinions about it. Why don't you listen to the person who's actually experiencing this and has experienced in this and is probably an expert on this because this is not the first time that they've experienced it if they're speaking out on it. It's probably happened to them so many times and they're just now getting to okay. I need to speak up on this. how about you. Listen to what it is that they have to say you. Thank them for saying it. You take it in and you learn from it because they have more experience from their angle than you do who have not experienced that oppression but then it becomes very complicated when you're dealing with. Lgbtq people gay bars gay republicans right and and and then it becomes a situation. Where like i've experienced discrimination and inequality. So therefore i understand everybody's inequality and discrimination and that's just wrong and if what you think and you're listening you're wrong like just listened to people about their nuanced experiences. Yeah but it is hard. Americans don't like to be told the wrong about anything regardless of political identity especially men and you know what i'm saying is like and this is a growing area for an area of growth and opportunity for all of us is that we need to make a lot of space for negative feedback. Yeah definitely definitely. I don't know how to do it. Well i'm sure my husband says i'd say you know this is. I don't know how we're going to do that. Because i think like social media at this point is a therapy for us right At and i think the best solution. And i know this sounds maybe unusual solution is for everybody to make art view can perform somewhere somehow in a streaming video or in a permanent video. I think that can be therapeutic. Because it's like this thing. Americans just aren't need of having somebody who's trustworthy they can. That will listen to them. What do you think about that. I think rather than depending on the public forum of social media for therapy. How about we just make actual therapy accessible to people i got healthcare. Dot is exactly. Yeah yeah part of it is like you know. We can't even get like aspirin. You know what i'm saying. Yeah i do i do. I do think there's value and people expressing themselves and putting their their feelings and what it is that they're thinking and feeling into a outside of themselves so like there's a difference between reading a book and reading a book and writing a paper on it writing a paper makes you synthesize that information in a different way and gives you a deeper understanding of it in a different context. The same thing is true. I believe about your feelings and what you're going through and stuff like that and so if you can put that into a different context and synthesize it in a different way you come into a different understanding of it and you also have feedback from somebody else outside of your own head like even if you don't agree with it you at least have somebody else's perspective you know and but i also think that that can be a tricky thing because if somebody is somehow it's just like you don't want depend on your friends for Don't wanna depend on your friends for therapy because they have a stake in you know so if somebody has a stake in it. They're going to be biased as to the feedback. They're going to give you. You wanna find somebody who is separated from the situation who can sort of be like okay. Here's my perspective of not having any stake in how this turns out like a catholic. Priests in a confessional. Exactly exactly yeah. Well then artist. Roger said it's like what can be talked about can be managed and sometimes all these like horrible feelings and ideas that live inside people's hearts and minds and if we have an ability to talk about these things with someone we trust it might at least get it out out of the bottle. Let it get some. There has to be a way to talk about things and so in the like in the service industry. And i've been a bartender for a while. There's the stereotype that black people don't tip. There needs to be safe spaces for service workers to be able to say. Hey so we have this perception. That black people don't tip. where does that come from. What have we observed that happens. What can we do to fix that on our side. What can y'all due to. The i mean maybe it's not up to black people. I don't know. I don't have all the answers but it's important to be able to talk about things and not to be able to say. Hey this is where. I stand on this and to be able to be corrected without being canceled. Because it's okay to be wrong. Like i feel a part of our culture is if somebody makes a mistake. Automatically people have their pitchforks and stuff and they get called out as opposed to being called in. Well as ellen call me up if you wanna call me out. Kill me up but but As ellen degeneres gonna have a talk show at the end of the year. Enquiring minds wants to know of course. Most people aren't even aware of any of the old ladies who watch your show. They don't know anything about allen being supposedly mean to her staff they don't know anything about it and mean people get things done which is in production. You want somebody that gets things done now. There's room for gradients of that in. There are certain ways that you can do that compassionately. But like i mean ellen isn't the only one that's doing that shit like she's not the only one that has a that is the head of a toxic work environment like she's getting called out about it and it's important that we start that conversation so that it's not that i'm going to entertainment. I just expect to be abused at work every day. It's important to change that standard. But like she's not the only one that's doing it because like a lot of times if you look at people who get things done in production they'll be like. Oh yeah that guy's an asshole or even more so that women's a bitch because women have less room to have that kind of assertiveness and they called for more than they get punished for it more but it also any kind of minority. Whether it's you know women are gay people or whatever but it's important to be able to have open honest conversation so that people can be like okay. This is where i am. How can i change it. And how can we move forward as opposed to just being like you. Don't get to make a living ever anymore at all. Like i don't think that's productive at all and you know we're seeing this very dramatic very visual very. It's a spectacle in terms of the you know the drag scene and the bar scene on social media and streaming media but you know like for. That's a tiny tiny little world compared to the businesses and corporations and companies that people work for. And you know. I'm glad to see that there are a lot you know regardless of the racism that is in our federal government right now. I'm starting to see that. A lot of businesses and corporations are actually realizing that. Hey if we want to be part of the future economy we gotta deal with racism and we gotta deal with it now and not just put a band aid on it or put out some cute rainbow oriole cookies or rainbow doritos. At pride you know or some bullshit like that but actually put money and training and education to allow these people who work in these companies and haven't had that training and education. Yeah and also go out of our way to find people to make up for this lack of representation that we have and Be able to bring people up and so that your company can represent the diversity that is seen throughout the community that it profits. From kareem mick jagger is available for diversity training very affordable rates extremely affordable. Now get while this. I need something sliding scale. She has some lubricant for that as well. I'll send you a google doc. We can work. We can work. I'm really enjoying talking to you. And i know you've certainly heard our podcast and it's nice to sort of close the loop so to speak. You know longtime listener. First-time caller definitely your available on social media. Under the handle korean mick jagger yes so any platform that amman whether it be facebook. 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Coronavirus, Coochie Crack, Very Cavallari, and Kyle Cooke From Summer Houses New EDM Single

"Jonathan over places I go. I am actually over. Baker tastes reality dot com gossip guru. Self-proclaimed fan girl and pop culture enthusiasts with a sweet spot for nostalgia on his day entertainment a podcast all about the greatest reality TV and pop culture happenings from today yesterday. And tomorrow. Welcome to the fanny. Pack in the words of Bethany Frankel. It's time to mention it all without further ado this week. In reality TV Celebrity News. We went into the weekend with a home. Dinger of a throwback and a connection I love a reality connection between two different shows and this is no exception Carlton from LOVE'S BLIND. He is the guy in the pod who broke up with the woman after he proposed to her. Well I should say. She broke up with him. It was a mutual. It was all just bad. But he's the guy who has been in a relationship with a man before in addition to women left that important detail out of his conversation with his fiancee in the pod. Well he was on an iconic episode of the real housewives of Atlanta. We're going back several years. This is when Kenya was still new to the franchise. Cynthia was on a panel and it was for one of her business ventures and they were looking for aspiring models and it was fashion and it was just all kinds of Cynthia Bailey. Fierceness will since Kenya had been missed. Usa or America. I don't remember which but you know what I'm talking about. Cynthia was like I should have tenure beyond this panel with me. Terrible idea Kanye was being horrible to the talent. She was being very offensive as far as the way she was talking about. The women's bodies how they cared for themselves some shaving just some really gross nasty ugly things. I believe it or not Kanye Fan. Norman the minority. I think she generally makes Create Television. But that was just not healthy leaked. That's just not how people should talk to each other. And well there was somebody who agreed with me and it was Carlton from well now. Love is blind. He came in and defended the model and got all kinds of in Kenya's phase and then in the bodyguards face. This might have been the first ever time that Kenya has called security. And it's funny because in the scene and if you don't know what I'm talking about I posted it on my instagram page. So go to add on this day entertainment and look forward there. It's worth it. Cynthia said Kenya was calling for security. And we don't have security but then all of a sudden Biggles security guy came out and started to get Carlton escorted off until Cynthia stepped in and said that he worked. There cleared the ice for then. But boy was that telling if you want more T. on Carlton from love. Is Blind in everything from love is blind from the fairytale. Romance and wedding of Lauren and Cameron to the train wrecks. That word Geneina Milady Bali and Damian Powers and Oh my Gosh Amber Pike in Matt Burnet. Oh my God. They're so much to breakdown. Poor Poor Pathetic Jessica with her fake baby voice. Our break it all down with Aaron Martin from the pink shade with Martin podcast. We did a bonus episode so go back and look for that one. If you want more love is blind. Let's move into Monday. It was a hot start to the week with Mark Wahlberg. There was a lot of talk over the weekend from his new. Netflix movie called Spencer confidential. There was an article that I actually posted for. Marky mark Monday about Mark. Wahlberg being to mark. Wahlberg in this movie. And how is that such a thing? I mean in a time of questionable journalism. We deserve more and I just wanted to make it clear that I was not having it even though I did. Try to watch a movie and it was pretty unwatchable. We got some Kristen Cavalry new. Does anybody here watch very cavalry? I mean I do but it's like hate watching you know like you have hate sex with somebody after you break up with them but you WANNA fuck him one more time before you leave them forever but you hate them and it's just like a good hate fuck well. I kind of feel like I hate. Watch this shell. It's really boring. It's comparable to watching paint dry. I mean the plot points are just so lame but I just love Kristen so much and I would watch her basically do anything and that's pretty much what I'm watching. Do you guys have any hate watch shows if you do? Please take it over to the fanny. Pack it's the Facebook Group. That's where we keep all the conversations going from this podcast am beyond will kristen reveal that she is going to be on a cameo of the hills New Beginnings. I could not get into the hills new beginnings. I Doubt Watch Kristen. Or if it's just a cameo I might watch that one. But that franchise lost me and I loved it back in the day like the hills is one of the shows that made me the reality. Tv Con a sore that I am today. So this is very discouraging and disheartening to say while we're on the subject of discouraging and disheartening. I mean this was really really tough last week. I mentioned a RU. Paul's drag race contestant Sherry Pie who had catfish D- And sexually assaulted several men. Well another degrees contestant has been named in a sexual assault claim this time it was Britta filter and from reading both stories. Very clearly and in-depth. I went pretty deep on several different. Sources the Sherry Pie is so many different people coming with similar stories with receipts. May I add that it's going to be hard to well? Jerry Pye admitted to what she had done so with that said Brita filter denies the sexual assault claim. It was acclaimed by one person. It'd been brought up before and dropped and then brought up again so it just sounds to me like the person bringing it up is looking for some attention so take that as you will moving onto. Tuesday. This was very disturbing to read Corey. Feldman has a special where he names the people who assaulted him and his best friend and Co Star of so many amazing eighties movies. Corey hayme iconic the two coreys Corey Feldman Corey Hayme. One of my personal favorites is licensed to drive but there are so many will. This was horrible. The special that Corey Feldman has called. I think the rape of two coreys and he makes them damning accusations about several men raping both of them particularly actor Charlie Sheen. This is going to get really graphic so you might want to Scrub Blake fifteen suck in starting now so apparently Charlie Sheen had raped corey. Haim in the broad daylight in the middle of two trailers on a movie set. I guess of Lucas and for loop he'd used CRISCO oil. What the fuck what the fuck what. The Fuck is wrong with people Well is horrible. Declaims claims are Charlie. Sheen is saying it's discussing. It never happened and even Corey Feldman's mom is saying that she doesn't believe him. I don't know. I wish Corey Haim was here unfortunately died a few years ago from pneumonia but I wish he was still here. Maybe even like ten years ago now anyway. I wish he was here to tell his story but he had a lot of demons on a higher note. Let's talk about the real housewives of Beverly Hills Star tatty mellencamp. She had a baby just a few weeks ago named dove with her husband. Edwin who we also see on the real housewives and she had a photo posted to Instagram of her dad. Rock and roll legend John Mellencamp of Jack and Diane fame meaning the baby for the first time and it was absolutely adorable boring adorable. I'm dreading a season of a pregnant teddy. Just trying to keep everybody accountable. But that's what we have in store and Beverly Hills. Last year was the only housewife season. I ever quit in the middle of the season. I'm coming back and giving it the good college try but I make no promises. Tv is too good elsewhere. The watch garbage. But I see this right after I tell you. I've been watching very so I'm contradicting myself. Left and right speaking of there is some drama within the TLC Universe because ninety day fiance fans are not happy about the Stephanie. Is it Medo motto? I don't know will. She is on the newest addition of Ninety Day and she is above sexual woman. Her whole story line is about how she's GonNa come out to her parents when in reality she has a youtube channel and posted a story about the time she realized that she was bisexual three years ago in got like sixty eight thousand views so of the sixty eight thousand people for nobody to tell her family or friend or anything like that seems very weird to me. It seems very orchestrated an me and the ninety day fiance fans aren't having it so we will see Stephanie. Break the news to her girlfriend that she has been keeping a secret so that should be interesting but a lot of people are just super uninvested in that story line at this point moving onto Wednesday. We're going to start with a really ugly twitter feud between of course Jax Taylor from vendor pump rules. Because what does he do besides getting twitter wars and his former friend? Tom Sandoval Sandoval clubbed back at Jack's because he brought area maddux's brother Jeremy into a twitter fight and it was just tacky he had said something about Jeremy. Not Getting enough hours at Tom Tom and that with his attractiveness level he should be working at a Tiki bar and it was just all really ugly. And though I'm not really a sandoval or Jack steeler fan at the moment right now. This is just disgusting on Jackson's end team sand of all all day. As far as this topic goes he made some really nasty comments. And we know that. Jack's house something against Arianna. He is constantly talking smack about her her sexuality some of the choices that she's made with how she's choosing to live her life and it just seems like he isn't very unhappy place. This is a man who has just married and he is just having all these interpersonal problems. Oh well that's just seems like the most ridiculous thing in the world when you think about what's actually going on in the world and that takes us to Los Angeles Drag Con Twenty Twenty. That is the celebration of Ru. Paul's drag race in all things drag related. That is comecon style in Los Angeles. Every year no surprise it was cancelled this year. Due to corona virus but the officials from drug Khan said that drug on twenty twenty one will be bigger and better than ever. Wow well we're on the news of Corona virus this switch. It became very real to me. Tom Hanks and read a Wilson were diagnosed with corona virus. While in Australia. Filming a movie. This was confirmed online by their son. Chet and I was shocked. I was at the gym. I was pedaling away on. The bike looked up at the news which I really hate doing. But every now and again to get a little tiny bite just to know what's going on and that's when she got really real and that sounds ridiculous because I don't know if you guys saw on the news. I mean everything's getting shut down from Disney to giant festivals. Lake Coachella excetera will all the MGM hotels. There's eight hotel casinos on the Las Vegas Strip owned by MGM. My husband is a sous chef at one of the eight buffets of the MGM properties. He not the Neal's a few days ago that all eight buffets are getting closed which is so many employees and that made shit very real but seeing that. Tom Hanks the beloved. Tom Hangs in his gorgeous talented wife. Rita Wilson were diagnosed. Really hit me like a ton of breaks while we're on the topic of Corona virus. I mean things are getting canceled left and right including the last leg of making the band auditions for MTV. Did he wanted to go ahead and play on the safe side so he canceled auditions? They've already had a series of auditions. That had already been filmed and then the remaining cities. He's opening up online audition so everybody gets a chance also on Thursday and there was an interview with destiny rose from the Shahs of sunset and she dished on what's to come from the rest of the Shahs of sunset season and it is crazy this feud between resin and MJ is about to blow up. I can't wait to see what happens so more to come on that if you are not already listening to my Shahs of sunset breakdown. Where have you been but good news for you? It's not too late. Since Shahs of sunset has moved to Friday nights of started. Doing a combined breakdown. I do the first half Shahs of sunset and then I do a recap breakdown spill all the T- from the new show Family Karma and I released that double bonus episode usually on Sunday night or Monday morning just depending if I can stay awake in finish editing or if I wake up in the morning and do it so you'll have it first thing in the morning on Monday at the latest. So that's where you can go for more. Shahs of sunset dish and wrapping up this week. I mean it has been a really heavy week. There might be a lot of you at home forced to stay home from work. Making sure you're taking care of children who are out of school. Whatever all these insane cases may be. I was really happy to write a really light fun. Article Involving Kyle Cook from Summer House to know he released an idiom song. It's called fuck work it's with the DJ called harbor. And I'll be honest. It's laps like I truly believe it slaps. Here's a little bit of it again inflate. I know it's not like a great song or anything but there's something fun about these Bravo songs as in the money. Can't buy you class. Go say lovey. I mean all the way from New York to Beverley hills with it's expensive to be me and how many fucks two I give going from Beverly Hills to we- ho- she gave us good as gold and DJ. James Kennedy has given US endless electronic bops. Don't get me started on all the other housewife music. Well summer houses now in the mix. I'm anxious to hear the response. That Kyle Song gets but I think just in this climate right now. This song is exactly what everyone needs. Well that does it for this week's on this day. Entertainment News head on over to on this day. Entertainment Dot Com to read the full articles of all this piping hot tea and more. Welcome back fanny. Pack it's always been fascinating to me to see how the world of entertainment has evolved over the years. Let's take a walk down memory lane and reminisce on some of the juiciest in most monumental on this day events from this week and pop culture history. Going back thirty years depeche mode released the album violator. It's the band's seventh studio album and had the singles personal personal genius. I wish that was really a song personal. Jesus and ENJOY THE SILENCE. Both total bangers. The album has been described as synth pop and alternative. Rock regarding the album's title. The band called it. Violator is a joke. They wanted to come up with the most extreme ridiculously heavy metal title that they could and they were excited to see if people got their joke. A couple years later in Nineteen ninety-two disco diva extraordinaire Donna. Summer got a star on the Hollywood walk of fame. She was the one thousand nine hundred fifty seconds star on the walk of fame and accepted the honor in front of a crowd of six hundred fans and friends and celebrities including Dick Clark and Steven Seagal. How random is the Steven Seagal part like Dick? Clark okay let's not make sense but Steven Seagal had no idea after the ceremony. Donna summer thank the crowd by singing friends unknown but my personal favorite Donna. Summer songs are. Oh my gosh there are so many love to love you baby. Let's dance. Oh my gosh. Of course the iconic. She works hard for her money. I mean feminist is fuck and of course taught stuff because who hasn't gotten dress for a big night out and jammed the F. out too hot stuff by Donna. Summer while we're on the subject of Divas of Pop music. Can we talk about Whitney Houston in nineteen ninety four? This is the year that she wants. Sold trains highest award. It's the Sammy Davis Junior award for entertainer of the year and who could possibly be more deserving of that honor especially in ninety four than Whitney. Houston KEEP in mind. This is right after the bodyguard came out which was a massive success and showed a different side to Whitney's unbelievable talent. The following year to PA RELEASED. His third album called me me against the world which was inspired by his impeding prison sentence. He had troubles with the police. Poverty and this album is described as being too. Pox most introspective album so this album was actually released while to park was in jail and it made an immediate impact on the charts. It debuted at number one on the billboard two hundred charts and held the top spot for a month it had one of my personal favorites on their dear. Mama and can I just say that when I used to be a teacher I would keep very faint cycle of Dear Mama on in the background while my kids are writing their mother's Day cards never too young to start they. Listen to dear Mama by pock That Mama Song by boys to men. I can't think of the name right now. And of course the perfect fan but backstreet boys the holy trinity of Mom Songs. Oh but then I should definitely include include the spice girls. Mom Song Okay. I don't want to be disrespectful to my girls. Any way me against the world was one of two parks. Most positively reviewed albums many called it quote magnum opus of his career and he actually made history. I don't know if this is how anybody wants to make history. But he was the first artist to have a number one album while serving a prison sentence way to go potluck Lynn. That thug life as anybody ever sounded wider than me. Just saying Thug live. I didn't think so in twenty twelve. I find this to be so admirable in two thousand twelve George Clooney and several other people including Martin Luther King. The third were arrested outside of the Sudanese embassy for civil disobedience. What George Clooney was doing is he was protesting the way that the Sudanese treated. He said quote. We are here really to ask two very simple questions. The first question is something immediate and immediately we need humanitarian aid to be allowed in the Sudan before it becomes the worst humanitarian crisis in the world. The second thing is for the government in Khartoum to stop randomly killing its own innocent men women and children stop raping them and stop starving them. That's all we ask and quote as I was reviewing this story and I couldn't help but think of that horrible scene on vendor pump rules with Jack Taylor's several seasons ago and he was talking smack about George Clooney getting married to a mall and he was saying how how not hot it is for somebody to be human rights activist and how unsexy it is and how boring she must be an it was just the most cringe worthy thing because here. George Clooney doesn't have to do anything he is set for life but he's putting his privilege decide to go ahead and stand up for those people who don't have the same voice is he. Does HE MARRIES. A woman who literally does so much. Good for the world. And Jack's Taylor's talking shet. The irony is just ridiculous. Well speaking of other celebrity couples. We're starting off in well actually the same year in two thousand twelve. This is the year that the twilight actor Peter Fashion. Nellie he was the guy who played the Vampires Dad so he was Edward Cullen's dad and he obviously was like super young and super hot because he's a vampire so he doesn't age so he was married to nine actress. Jennie Garth of course Kelly Taylor. And this is the day that they divorced due to irreconcilable differences after eleven years of marriage you know. I love a celebrity couple. But that's part of it. They say fifty percent of relationships end in divorce. I wonder what that percentage is of Hollywood marriages. I have a feeling it would be a lot more sloped of scale well in better celebrity relationship news. Dave Franco married Allison Brie in a private ceremony in twenty seventeen Dave Franco. Arnaud is James. Franco's little brother. He was in twenty one jump street. He's been in several things. I don't really know him that well but I am big fan of Allison Brie from her days. Is trudy Campbell on mad men who I loved? I loved her character so much. She was such a great positive energetic. Twist on that show which I'm in Huge Madman Fan so I've loved her since then and of course I watch glow on Netflix. If you guys aren't watching glow on net flicks is so funny. It's the show about the gorgeous ladies of wrestling. It was a real wrestling troupe. I guess is the correct word in the eighties in it is the most delicious show. A huge Marc Maron Fan. He's one of my favorite comedians. He plays a significant role in show. It's just too good well. They got married three years ago this week. So congratulations today. Franko and Allison Brie. Who are still together and in more celebrity news. Twenty nineteen just last year. This is the time that Lori Laughlin and Felicity Huffman were named in the college admissions scandal. Do you remember all those amazing aunt. Becky memes about Laurie Laughlin. After the scandal was released there is a great full House episode where DJ had gotten an F. On paper and Kimmy. Gabler of course changed the F. into an a and there was a great meal about them switching the grade and then blaming it on Mbeki. Amazing it's crazy to think just in this year. How Felicity Huffman has served a prison sentence? Laurie Laughlin is well. Most likely I mean most likely going to prison for a long time. It looks like it looks really really bad for aunt becky. It's just so shocking. This whole thing. It's so bizarre to see a Livia Jade Lori Loughlin daughter the girl who got into the southern California college without really earning it in. It's so funny because she didn't even want to go to college she truly didn't give a shit. She just wanted to be an influence on instagram. And just like put makeup on posted on instagram and talk about the products she used. That's literally all the girl wanted for her life. Her mom wants so much more and thinks she deserves so much more and in her mind. Thinks she's doing the right thing when in reality and of course obviously. She doesn't think like this but her cheating to get her daughter into the school. Of course means that somebody else can't go to that school somebody who actually worked for good grades and participated in after school activities in active in school functions. So when you think of it that way. It's a relief. Fucking big deal and shame on both of them. That does it for the nostalgic throwbacks from this week in entertainment history. Now for this week's birthdays billy crystal of course from one of my favorite movies. When Harry met Sally Turns Seventy Two as he was born in. Nineteen forty eight in nineteen fifty one. Mr Howdy Howdy hunk. Kurt Russell was born from overboard of course in the super sexy relationship with Goldie Hawn. He's sixty nine. This year Bruce Willis was born in nineteen fifty. Five of course moonlighting diehard pulp fiction. He turns sixty five. I mean this is a senior citizen. Tam. He in Nineteen fifty-nine flavor. Flav was born of course the wrapper from public enemy. But never forget. He was on one of the O. G. U. Reality shows called flavor of love and which he was the prize when the prizes Flavor Flav we know we are on a dark dark path and here. We are America while he is sixty one this year. The gorgeous and talented Vanessa. Williams is fifty seven. She was born in nineteen sixty three. Laura Leighton from Melrose Place. She was the adorable redhead. Who played the Naughty Naughty? Sydney is fifty one. I love this Michael. Rapaport is fifty. Michael Rapaport is always on watch. What happens live? He's a comedian. He is a huge Bravo Hollick and how I originally know him is from the Howard Stern. Show the Howard Stern show guys. The guys who work on the show have a fantasy football league. That Michael was a part of will. Apparently Michael Rapaport was so difficult in such an asshole that the Howard Stern crew ended up kicking him out of the League and getting kicked out of a League of Howard Stern employees. Because you're too big of a dick is a real low and I kinda love Michael Rapaport for that. He was famously read by Kenya. More on an episode of watch what happens live and I will never forget that read. Will he was born in one thousand nine hundred seventy? He's fifty and he was born on the same day in the same year as Queen Latifah in it nineteen seventy-three og real housewife of Atlanta does shawn snow. Gosh well she only one season. She's forty seven years old in nineteen seventy seven. This is a sad one devin. Lima was born. He was in the boy band L. Afo He passed in two thousand eighteen. He should have been forty three this year. Gone Way too soon and I'm going to end this week with just somebody that I love so much. A Bravo liberty the yen to Michalis Yang Mr Bowe Clark. 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GSMC Music Podcast Episode 131: SXSW Canceled

GSMC Music Podcast

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GSMC Music Podcast Episode 131: SXSW Canceled

"I want to know the latest and hottest music hitting the airwaves. Don't be left out. Listened to the Golden State media concepts music. Podcast issue on the loop with everything you need to know if top Florida and we'll throw in means of your favorite artists concert tour and so much more. Listen you're further because this is the gold standard in music cats. Thank you for listening to the G. S. M. C. Music Potty is brought to you by the MC podcast network. I'm your host Lee Brown. The musical of constantly seeking positive. Let's get into. The Corona virus is all over the news including a music news in segment two. I will list the concerts and festivals that have been canceled thus far but one festival that refuses to cancel is south by South West. The Huge Austin Texas Festival is still scheduled to precede March thirteenth through the twenty second. Despite the fact that major brands an artist are dropping out. Paramount said that while it was keeping its March. Fourteenth World Premiere of the Love Bore The love birds in its lineup. Stars Kumhal the genie and Isa Ray and director. Michael showalter would not be attending as planned. Paramount will be doing press for the movie in Los Angeles in lieu of Austin Lionsgate and their stars network said they were no longer attending as the parent. Company is insisting employees not conduct non-essential business trouble. At this time there was a feature panel for power with Creator Courtney. Kemp executive producer Curtis Fifty Cent Jackson and stars President and CEO. Jeffrey Hirsch. That is no longer happening. There was also a world premiere in activation for stars upcoming series town. Not only our talent backing out of the fest but there won't be a screening of high town nor planned activation lionsgate's home entertainment actually will hold their world premieres. Just not with their talents. Those movies include the Liam Hemsworth Vivica Fox. Vince Vaughn crime filler. Arkansas and Michael Shannon Shea Wyndham cry crime mystery thriller the Corey Rocker as Osborne. Universal Music Group and Warner media confirmed. They're pulling out of their respective slots at the Austin based festival. Osborne was scheduled to attend in support of the world premiere screening of an e networks biography. The nine lies of Ozzy Osbourne. It's two hour documentary set to air this summer. The DOC is still sets Aboul March Seventeenth and the twenty four beats per second sidebar on Wednesday netflixing apple said. They were exiting awesome based festival a day after Amazon. Said it was doing the same. All three companies had content bound for different sections. That now will not be in the mix. They joined facebook twitter. Who had earlier pulled out of the festival? Net flicks had planned to screen fi films the feature uncorked Docu series. A secret love. La Basically they got a whole list of stuff they was gonNA premier On march fifteenth panel featuring Kanye Berries and Rashida Jones discussing their series. Hashtag excellence was also cancelled. Apple's lineup had included premieres of originals Lake Spike Jones documentary BC. Boys story is also cancelled according to the World Health Organization. More than three thousand two hundred eighty people worldwide have died from the corona virus as of Thursday. Eleven people have died in the US. So I an amendment on south by South West as of Friday afternoon. The city of Austin cancelled the annual south by southwest festival due to Corona Virus Outbreak Mayor Steve Adler announced Friday afternoon. Prompting Festival organizers to release a statement saying they were devastated and still working through the ramifications of Adler is decision lady Gaga has a man Gaga shared acute self. You were her current boyfriend tech investor. Michael Polanski is seen leaning in over her shoulder while riding in a jet. Gog captioned the post. I've got a stupid love. This isn't the first time Gaga has posted about Polanski online after speculation that the two were dating surfaced following her pre super bowl performance in Miami got posted a photo of the two cuddling together on a boat letting fans know that the rumors were true. Gog wasn't the only one excited to share her new photo. Bello Popstar Arianna. `Grande left a comment on the stars. Post telling the couple adore you both so much in classic Celine Dion Fashion. The singer shut it down. The New York sidewalks on Thursday in Michael Kors plag- dress with a built in Cape in matching structured beret. She got her stray pose on for the Paparazzi as she served up her latest fashion forward. Look a man who attended a toll concert at spark arena in Auckland New Zealand last Friday. His tested positive for corona virus and is now self isolation the New Zealand Herald reports that the unidentified man the fourth person in New Zealand diagnosed with the Coleman nineteen strain of the virus has been isolated since Wednesday and does not require hospital care just hours before her premiere on season. Twelve of RU. Paul's drag race drag star. Sherry pie is already in hot. Water after five actors accused her of cat fishing them in a report from buzzfeed news. Five New York actors accused their former Sunny Portland classmate. Joey Google Meli pies birth name opposing as a casting director over email and asking each of them to send him embarrassing audition tapes of themselves doing a variety of degrading activities. One actor even said he'd agreed to masturbate on camera for the online persona. Now that after was stupid for that I mean that's like acting edition. Roll Number One. Come on now wait. What role was trying to get? What was the part commonsense people commonsense? Okay so Sherry Pie. Went on our facebook page and posted a public apology for the behavior. the post says. This is Joey. I want to start by saying how sorry I am that I caused such trauma and pain and how horribly embarrassed and disgusted. I am with myself. I know that the pain and hurt I have caused will never go away. And I know that what I did was wrong and truly cruel irate so Demi Levato was on Ellen and when asked what made her throw it all away after six years of sobriety popstar revealed that her breaking point stemmed from an eating disorder. That became all consuming. She says it. Let me to being really really unhappy. My Bolivia got really bad and I asked for help and I didn't receive the help that I needed. Levada went on to explain that when she reached out to her then management team questioning her sobriety. The reaction she received was anything but compassionate. They responded with Lake. You're being very selfish and this would ruin things not just for you but for us as well okay. Now who's who selfish by saying that people come on just feel like you've to use commonsense we gotta use commonsense. Why are you listening to other people listening to other people? Tell you to send embarrassing auditions and to masturbate. And you're all you're all about your sobriety and are being a. You're you're selfish. Come on now I understand being young in heave but to a certain extent dimsdale for that but she got it together she got it together so She says an when I heard that my core issues are abandonment for my birth father as a child so when they left they totally played that played on that fear. Ifo completely abandoned so I drink and that night I went to a party and there's other stuff there and it was only three months before I ended up in hospital with an od. I think is important that I sit here on this stage until you at home or you in the audience or you right here that if you do go through this you yourself can get through it you can get to the other side and it may be bumpy but you are at ten out of ten. Don't forget it and as long as you take the responsibility you can move past it and learn to love yourself the way that you deserve to be loved. Ne Musician and composer Brett. Dean has been hospitalized in Australia. With the new corona virus British agent Inter Musica confirmed on Thursday. That the violinist are violinist and conductor was in isolation in. Adelaide hospital with the Kobe. Nineteen illness he was to perform with the Adelaide Symphony Orchestra and Beethoven Concert at the annual Adelaide Festival on Saturday Post Malone has fans concerned after nearly falling apart on stage. The chart-topping singer was performing his single. I fall apart. You're has runway tour at the Bridgestone Arena in Nashville on Wednesday when he appeared to breakdown on stage in the video clip which went viral on Social Media. Posts fell to the ground before tumbling over himself. His voice wavered as he struggled to get back up. Fans took to twitter to express their concern after seeing the alarming video. These clips of Post Malone are disturbing. And it's breaking my heart dude. Wow tweeted one fan while another added. I hope he gets the help he needs if he's hurting. I'd hate to see anything happen to him so I watched the clip. It looks like it's part of the routine for him to fall and deliver lyrics from the floor since the song is called fall apart but he does look like. He was struggling and falling apart while singing the song. Now obviously dude wrote the song for a reason or heathen write it. He chose it because he connects with the lyrics. But fans should be concerned with all these artists dying and self medicating the concerns are valid. I mean but to me. His everyday look doesn't look healthy at all now. Pop smoke was laid to rest in Brooklyn on Thursday family and friends turned out in droves to celebrate the twenty year. Old Robbers live during a massive funeral procession in. I do not know how to pronounce the name. But it's K. A. N. C. A. N. A. R. S. I. E. Happened in Brooklyn. I'm assuming neighborhood in Brooklyn. But a white horse drawn carriage made its way through the streets fans lined up on the sidewalks to pay their respects to their fallen star. The black casket with glass windows and White. Curtains travel pass a mural honoring pop smoke while fifty cents for Saatchi. Rats Lamborghini was a part of the procession. At one point. Pop smokes music blared from the speaker along. Sign a hearse alongside. A hearse as fans popped champagne and dance to his songs including invincible. His mother waved to fans who chanted woo as the carriage drove past them week in Pop. Smokes family honored him during a private ceremony? After today's procession he will be laid to rest in a Brooklyn Cemetery. The family of Buscher pop smoke Jackson will like to express our sincere gratitude to everyone for your support. The Jackson family said in a statement last month every prayer call. An Act of kindness is deeply appreciated. And we mourn the loss of our son brother and friend so we will take a break and return with tour and Festival News. Always on the go but the date. Just be one without your Hollywood split. Golden State Media Gone Subset Pin podcast. Take care of that and all inclusive look pop culture. Hey I'm andy if you don't know me it's probably because I'm not famous but I did start a men's grooming company called Harry's the idea for Harry's came out of a frustrating experience I had buying razor blades. Most brands were overpriced over designed out of touch. At Harry's our approach is simple. Here's our secret. We make sharp durable blades and sell them at honest prices for as low as two dollars. Each we care about quality so much that we do some crazy things like a world class German blade factory obsessing over every detail means we're confident and offering one hundred percent quality guarantee. Millions of guys have already made the switch to Harry's so thank you if you're one of them and if you're not we hope you give us a try with this special offer. Get a Harry starter. Set with a five Blade Razor waited handle shave gel travel cover offer just three bucks plus free shipping just go to Harrys DOT COM and enter five thousand at checkout. That's Harrys Dot com code. Five thousand enjoy. Welcome back to the Jeers. Mc Music podcast. I'm your host Brown onto tours and festival news since the outbreak of the corona virus. More than twenty thousand music events between January and March have been cancelled or postponed in China and Hong Kong costing two billion in ticketing and box office losses. According to the China Association Performing Arts with the disease reaching more than forty countries billboard has compiled an ongoing list of major concerts and events that have been postponed or cancelled due to the outbreak. Now they do have a list that includes January and February but since we're in March I'm just in March so march. I set it off called off dates in Asia on Sunday. Due to unforeseen circumstances and for everyone's safety the ban also cancelled their opening slots for Jimmy eat world on March twelve and thirteenth in Manila and Singapore March. Second Wolf parade cancel European and UK dates for the tour supporting their latest album. Thin mind the first show was scheduled for March second. In the Netherlands March second Luchino coil cancelled their tour of Asia and Australia are home region of Lombardia. Italy is in the midst of a con. A Corona virus break. Everyone's health and safety must come first and this includes our fans March Third Malamah postpones his upcoming concert in line amid outbreak. Italy march third ultra Abu Dhabi. The Middle Eastern edition of the Miami Bass Festival is cancelled. It will set to happen in March fifth or six March third where I carry. His postponed postponed her Honolulu date until November. I was so excited to come back to Hawaii on my anniversary month. But evolving international travel restrictions forced us to consider everyone's safety and will being march third where to singer. Young blood called off a tourist later to kick off in South Korea as well as shows in Japan Hong Kong the Philippines and Singapore. At first I was going to say. Fuck it and calm but we have been advised again too seriously. Not March third. Ultra music festival flagship. Miami Festival scheduled for March Twentieth through the twenty second is called off. According to the city officials slipknot postponed a planned Asia tour slated to kick off a march twentieth with a two night. Not fess were fellow. Hard rockers. Whitesnake sons of Apollo. And Michael. Sh- NECKER FEST OFF cancelled dates March fourth as a result of apple pulling out of this year south by southwest festival along with twitter. Amazon. Tick Tock facebook and other major companies Spike Jones. Bbc's story documentary is not slated to premiere at the event. Nine inch nails has also dropped out of the film. Portion of the annual film are at the Annual Festival Dinesh Nell says. We're sorry we won't be giving our watchman keynote at South by southwest share because we had some surprises in store however it was the right decision March fifth Louis Thomasson tweeted to fans at the president of the Council of ministries had decreed that his march eleventh show at the fabric in Milan had been called off March Fifth Queen and Adam Lambert notified fans that the group's plan may twenty six show at the Acor hotels arena in Paris has been postponed following a government decree and France to cancel all indoor events over five thousand capacity's capacity in France until the thirty first of May in an effort to contain the spread of Corona virus. The Band said they are working with promoter to reschedule the date and will announce a new one soon march fifth organizers of Tomorrowland winter and France and stars that they have canceled the twenty twenty winter edition of the Electronic Dance Music Festival and Tomorrowland winter. Twenty twenty was set to run March fourteenth through the twenty first at the French. Alpine ski resort in out. Bay Day I do not say French word but yeah so. Don't be surprised if we hear. Coachella will be cancelled and teen choice award winners. Salmon Colby have announced a thirteen date Paranormal German tour across the US that includes stops in New York Chicago Nashville and more Cumulating with an appearance at the Fonda in Los Angeles on May Twenty Six. That's still set to go. Hopefully it will continue now onto the top. Ten songs played in the United States according to Apple Music. Roddy which is the box is back at number one low baby gonNA heating up temporarily held that spot but I knew radio would be number two LAVAR that way number three low baby commercial featuring losy fart number four low baby ain't GonNa Heaton up number five baby scarred number six little baby. Whoa NUMBER SEVEN LITTLE BABIES. Something approved number eight. Live off my closet. Featuring everyone's favorite feature future again got ever INS favorite feature future and again this little baby number nine bad bunny latiff cell number ten future drake life is good now. Let's compare that to the top. Ten songs played globally according to apple music number one rowdy rich still locally and in the US That's the box number two lows evert that way number three low baby commercial featuring Lil boosie. Burt number four little baby and GonNa Heaton up number five of the weekend lining lights number six future featuring drake life is good number seven bad bunny loudly for cell number. Eight bad bunny. See via Tom Mama. Yano only language I speak is English so I can't pronounce that now. Fighting English could barely pronounce English. Words number nine low baby emotionally scarred number town. Little baby will now. What have I been German so I ran through? Little babies might turn. There is a reason why is all over the top team in the US and globally? It jams I don't have a fall of standouts but live off my closet. That title trips me up. 'cause it don't make sense. I want to say live off my chest or live from my closet but live off. My clothes closet does not flow naturally. But the SAN's slaps forever will low Wayne and catch the sign. I really enjoyed to keep it. Real kid is talented but not really my cup of tea. I may listen one more time I had never heard of G. Herbert until I reported that. His P. T. S. and E. Dropped because he had so many mainstream featured on his album. I listened I have the same cinemas with him as I do. Low baby cool albums by ninety to put on repeat personally but I see why others would now. Princess Nokia is my flavor of tea. This week was the first time I heard of her and her grains and hand song I download it both her twenty twenty projects. Everything sucks and everything is beautiful. I didn't realize that they were companion pieces when I downloaded them. I reported on. Most everything sucks in the last episode. Dade it's dark but the production is buyer. My standout are Harley Quinn. A lay came and Balenciaga. I learned about her extremely dark in painful child in just a kid. She talks about her mom passing her dad being on drugs and her grandma raised her until she was eight until her grandma passed away then. She was adopted or had a foster mother. That was kind of confusing. Wasn't quite clear on that. She says she literally says those adopted but then she said that the woman had Lake ill-intentioned that was doing it for money with adoption. And you've got to pay for a kid. Fostering you make money. So that's what makes more sense to me. But anyways that's a little foggy on whether she was adopted or fostered but other ways some Menas lady took care of her and abused her So she was about being a sad kid so yeah I get why she titled The project. Everything sucks when I heard that final track but then it's a drastic clip with project. Everything is beautiful. The production is sunny up lifting. You can't really label her style because she experiments with almost every project no projects on the same and when it comes to her songs she flinches. is constantly switching her flow And she's dope at it at all styles but I really was thinking everything sucks the most so we will take a break and return with music history with Celine Dion searching vast jungle of podcasts. Now listen close and here this out. There's a podcast network that covers just about everything that you've been searching. The Golden State Media Concept podcast network is here nothing less than podcast bliss with endless hours of podcast from news sports music fashion entertainment fantasy football and so much more so stop lurking around and go straight out to the golden state media concepts podcast network guaranteed to fill that. Podcast is whatever it may be visit us at. Www DOT MC podcast dot com. Follow us on facebook and twitter and download on itunes soundcloud and Google play. Welcome back to the MC music podcast. And let's get into music history with Selene Dion according to all music dot com and I even ally. This has been the longest history that I've ever read but a Selene Diaz may sense so here. We go folks on her humble roots as a french-language teenage pop singer to international superstardom. Canadian singer Celine Dion became a multi platinum. Grammy Winning Crossover Success in the ninety s after breaking into the English language market with Heartfelt Ballads. That shined a spotlight on her powerful and in middle voice in addition to winning first prize at the one thousand nine hundred eighty eight. Eurovision Song Contest Dion also scored multiple grammy awards including album of the year for Nineteen ninety-six falling into you her award. Winning contributions to film soundtracks helped expand presence into the pop culture mainstream most notably would songs like beauty and the beast from Nineteen ninety-one Disney animated film and the blockbuster. My heart will go on from the Nineteen ninety-seven box office smash titanic decades into her career. Her status as a beloved pop icon was further cemented with a record-breaking Las Vegas residency at Caesar's palace making her one of the highest grossing artists of all time born on March thirtieth nineteen sixty eight and Charlemagne Quebec. Selene Marie Claudette Dion. One of fourteen children dam in a large family. That fostered a love music. She started singing at a young age performing the families. Piano Bar Piano Bar. Okay Damn get it family and at her older brother's wedding pursuing her dream of becoming a singer. She wrote her song. Daig again Yano English. I'll say it in English. It was only a dream and nine hundred eighty with her mother and brother released in June nineteen eighty-one the single peaked in the top twenty of Quebec singles chart and landed her the debut. Full length. La Hoya Juan de Yala just GonNa have to use to meet your stuff during his one which was released in November of the same year under the guidance of the producer and manager Rene and Galley Dion went onto win top performer. The best song at the nineteen eighty two Jamaa World Popular Song Festival in Tokyo in Multiple Felix Awards in her native Quebec for her third effort. Element is Jay Damore which won best pop album newcomer of the year and female vocalist of the air. The album was certified platinum in Canada while leaping to France where were also became a hit a steady stream a release followed into the late eighties including four studio albums a handful of compilations and a pair of Christmas collections which helped make her inroads into international markets like Belgium and Switzerland. In one thousand nine hundred seventy on receives a full pop makeover on her eighth LP economy toe the double platinum set spawned five hit singles and was promoted with a Canadian tour that included a multi month residency at the Saint Denis Theatre in Montreal in the midst of income needles whirlwind success. Dion one thousand nine hundred eighty eight year vision song contest. representing Switzerland with knee parts Whatever again poised for greater international exposure dion finally made her move beyond her French language. Canadian release taking aim at the US. Pop mainstream at the turn of decade great. Hopefully I can pronounce the rest of the stuff from here on released on Columbia records in April. Nineteen ninety. Unison was the first England's English language album following a concentrated effort to improve her language skills and we'll training. The leap paid off in unison was a massive success. Massive success selling more than a million copies in the US IN MILLIONS WORLDWIDE. In addition to singles have a heart in unison. The album also included billboard hits like the last snow if there was any other way in. Where does my heart beat now? Which peaked at number four on the hot one hundred and number two on the adult? Contemporary Chart unisons performance dion attract the attention of Disney and she was recruited for Nineteen ninety-one beauty and the beasts a duet with Peabo Bryson from animated film of the same name. The valid was top. Ten hit winning dion a grammy for best pop performance by a duo or group with vocals. Her second English language album arrived in one thousand nine hundred to reading the success and beauty and the beasts included as the sets. First Single Celine. Dion made confidence steps. Made confidence steps away from the youthful pop of her previous. Release presenting a mastery branding for the singer on yearning ballads and confident. Rb inspired dance numbers the self titled Effort in entered the top forty of the billboard. Two hundred eventually out selling unison. It included hit singles if you ask me to nothing broken but my heart and love can move mountains. Meanwhile away from the Public Id on and Geli began a romantic relationship. Subtly unveiled a nine hundred ninety three in the liner notes of her next album. The couple would wed at the end of nineteen ninety four issued in November. The color of my love topped charts across Europe and Canada entering the top ten in the US and even Japan. It was her highest selling effort to date with over. Twenty million copies. Sold the Juneau and grammy-winning our meal Romantic Eights. Lake Clive Griffin Duet. When I fall in love from the sleepless in Seattle Sanchez soundtrack the UK Chart Topper. Think twice in the International Smash Power of love a cover of a Jennifer rush song that went on to win the Grammy for best instrumental arrangement accompanying vocals as love became dion biggest album to date. She shifted back to her French audience with another blockbuster following the release of live album here we go again. Allah Olympia recorded in Paris in September. Nineteen eighty-four Dion issued. Daewoo released as the French album in the US. In one thousand nine hundred five the set included chart topping singles. Like some French snuff. I cannot pronounce which bulk shots at number one in France and Belgium the album itself state atop the French chart for a whopping forty four weeks becoming the best selling album of all time. Her months a French chart dominance came to an end. In nineteen thousand nine hundred six when she was toppled from the top spot by her own album falling into you returning to the English language output. Dion hit another career high point with falling into surpassing the success of previous efforts the L. P. found dion at a peak in popularity extending her chart dominance around the world with platinum singles. Leg It's all coming back to me now and the grammy winning. Because you loved me from the up close and personal soundtrack. Frequent collaborators Diane. Warren and David Foster returned to the work to work on the project which won Grammy Awards for album of the year and best pop album while becoming one of the best selling albums of all time and supported the effort. Dion embarked on a world tour. That lasted over a year hitting spots in Asia and Australia mere months. After the tourist final date in Switzerland Dionne returned to the top of the charts with a follow up. Let's talk about love arrived in late. Nineteen ninety seven gusts like Barbra streisand the BG's Luciano Pavarotti Bryan Adams. Diana king a whole lot of people were enlisted for vocal duets in songwriting in addition to hit duets. Tell him in immorally. Let's talk about love featured. What would become dion signature song? My heart will go on. Which was the blockbuster Film the theme firm the Blockbuster Film. The titanic with this unmistakable Flute Melody and Cinema Matic scope the single match. The film's cultural dominance becoming a ubiquitous ubiquitous radio staple in topping charts in Canada Europe Australia and the US after winning an Kademi award in one thousand nine hundred seven for best original song my heart will go on scored a Golden Globe in one thousand nine hundred eighty before sweeping the nineteen ninety. Nine grammys with winds. How does she win? From Ninety seven and ninety eight she wrote the Song Ninety seven then it should have won a grammy and I learned ninety seven at least the latest ninety eight nineteen ninety nine. That'll make no sense but anyways before sweeping the nineteen thousand. Nine grammys with wins for record of the year. Song of the year. Best female pop vocal and Best Song for motion. Picture or television while touring in support of. Let's talk about love. Dionne issued the holiday albums. These are special times a greatest hits compilation all the way a decade of Song in another French release that I cannot pronounce. She kept off the decade by receiving the titles of officer of the Order of Canada for outstanding contribution to the world of contemporary music and officer of the National Order of Quebec after her unbroken run of nineteen ninety s of run of nineties after her unbroken run of ninety s chart success in international touring. Dion took a well deserved break to focus on her family prompted in part by a cancer diagnosis for angle. And the two thousand one birth of her first child. Dionne returned to music in two thousand with a refreshed. Pop Sound on. New Day has come another multi-platinum chart topper. The album was inspired by the birth for sign and the September eleventh attacks which push dion to focus on love hope and fresh beginnings while not as globe conquering as her late nineties releases. A new day manage to yield uplifting hits leg a new day has come and I'm alive a pair of sweeping tracks that highlighted her new millennium pop confidence dion quickly followed with two thousand. Three's one heart home to the urgent dance. Pop single. I drove all night one heart stylistic shift was met with criticism becoming her lowest selling english-language effort in over a decade yet even with this seemingly commercial disappointment the album was so certified plan in sold over five million copies worldwide. Why because she's signed? Er Two thousand four. Also saw the release of a new day live in Las Vegas a concert. Recording of her multimillion dollar five year residency at Caesar's Palace in Las Vegas occupied by these live shows which had dion books per nightly performances. Five days a week. She released a comprehensive greatest hits collection on changed pa. I'm sorry all I even took French in high school that's pretty sad Which compiled her french-language hits from nineteen eighty one to two thousand five and two thousand seven after the release of another French album the LS an ambitious concert featuring concept featuring songs written by French female authors Dionne returned with a course correcting follow up to One Heart. Taking chances arrived at the end of two thousand seven it comeback of sorts the LP included. The said Seoul hid taking chances What else alone. And Yeah okay look featured. Despite being one of her lowest selling English efforts taking chances was supported with a record breaking international tour that made stops in South Africa China Malaysia and Australia. Becoming one of the highest grossing tricks of All Time Y. because she is selling another best compilation. My Love Essential Collection which collected hits released after nine hundred ninety nine all the way kept dion charts following the conclusion of her world tour which was commemorated on two thousand ten taking chances. World tour. The concert recorded in Boston and Montreal. She also signed on for a second multi year contract concert residency at the Coliseum as Caesar's palace which had a plan to run that extended into two thousand nineteen. Meanwhile she issued another French album Suns Atop Andrei in late twenty twelve topping charts and worldwide French markets and. A lonely eleventh. English album loved me back to life followed in two thousand and thirteen in addition to the pen title track loved me also included duets with neo. Incredible and Stevie wonder over joy in two thousand fourteen. John's Vegas residency. In Asia. Tour were abruptly halted after Anghelis. Health began to further deteriorate although her performances resumed a year. Later in the summer of two thousand fifteen they were once again halted in early two thousand sixteen with a tragic deaths of both and Galley and her brother Daniel Dion which came within two days of each other. That's hard that is hard that's terrible. I remember lot tune. That's terrible devastated. Took time away from the spotlight for a month down really on. It's hard being Celine Dion. She definitely needed more time than they're returning to the stage and February. That's some are release. Encore on sore and introspective set of uplifting pop that peaked at number one in Canada France Belgium Switzerland notably notably becoming Diaz first french-language effort to chart on the billboard charts. Encore was home to singles like the title track. Lay a totally. I don't know She returned to the world of film soundtracks in two thousand seventeen. Reuniting with the property that helped break her into the American pop culture landscape over twenty five years earlier she contributed. How does a moment lasts forever? To Disney's live action remake of Gideon the bees which makes total sense. She was on the first one day. The second one The song tops the charts in even entered the top ten across Asia in two thousand eighteen. She contributed to another though. Slightly more Unorthodox Soundtrack Deadpool to it. I don't call that okay. Ashes landed that may accompanied by a music video starring Dion and the tits in the Superhero and the Superhero. That quickly went viral. I don't know if I remember that. The following year Dion released the club friendly anthem flying on my own as the first track from her twelfth English language album courage a triumph of spirit. The set showcase a revitalised dion who was aided by pop in electric guests. Such as David Guetta. Sam Smith in scholar grey. The album topped the Canadian and US charts who hurry. I told you I was. I was going to be a long bio but it's I mean when I think of Celine Dion I think of one of my hobbies I think of Shawna she we actually we're infringe together in high school. Whenever we have to do a French project on a person she would always do celine dion and she loves her Cellini on. So that's an of course. I know like her movies scores. Or You know the themes for movie soundtracks but other than that. Besides her being a diva. I remember her being on the divas. Lake every year Besides I I mean I really don't have much else to say about Celine Dion other than she's legend. So I definitely appreciate your time. Thank you for listening to the. Gmc Music podcast brought to you by the GS MC music podcast network. If you like what you heard. Subscribe to our podcasts. And until next time I'm Julie Brown. The Music Lover Constantly seeking positive music. You're listening to the golden state media. Concept's music podcast part of the Golden state media concepts podcast network. 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July 27, Hr 3  Back to school plans are troubling to some teachers

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July 27, Hr 3 Back to school plans are troubling to some teachers

"This is mornings with Kale and northern Colorado's voice thirteen ten Kfi K.. Eight on your Monday morning thirteen ten Kfi, eight, thirteen, ten, Kfi, K, a dot com, northern Colorado's voice mornings with Gail, live and local via the auto collision specialists studios all right. How do you feel about your kids going back to school I don't know this is the time of cognitive dissonance for you. Because maybe you're thinking about. You've been working at home and you're thinking about hitting the road. Maybe, going back for in person cubicle time getting back to work getting back to some semblance of normalcy shirts been great having the kids at home for the most part right, but. I'm not going to go to the three days and fish and visitors thing but It's been quite a challenge on so many levels again. As a result of all the changes relative, the guidelines restrictions relative to covid nineteen. Are you comfortable with your kids getting back into school? Well some teachers aren't. Comfortable with that equation. As, they're now demanding fourteen days of no new covid cases before going back to work. There are actually planning a day of action today. We're GONNA. Get into that just a few, but school districts across the state indeed around the country making those plans subject to change of course as things change along the lines of Covid nineteen. School districts six has set grade level school schedules for opening, but seriously are. Are you in favor of schools reopening? Are you comfortable with your kids getting back? into the classroom. And Delaney right in Greeley trip in the rapidly changing landscape for educators planning for the reopening of schools then again. It's not a one-size-fits-all model. Greeley Evans School districts six has. Modified its plan which had expected to do to bring staff and students back into classrooms for the start of the academic year. It was late Thursday afternoon on their district website district six announced school schedules according to grade levels that will be in place at least through the first semester, high schools will actually use a hybrid schedule at least through the first semester possibly again, covid nineteen dependent through the entire school year, the district added additional information such as details on the structure of the school day. Day How meals will be served, and the availability of elective classes and extracurricular activities this information that will be available for students and families from individual schools closer to the first day of school. Just a reminder district six is scheduled to begin classes on Monday August seventeenth for students and I through twelfth grades. Kindergarten students are scheduled to begin school. Wednesday August nineteenth. For students participating in a fool online learning schedule began August twentieth. Weld R. E four. Chief, operating, officer Jason Seibert I. Saying His name correctly could be Siebert. We'll go with cyber wrote an email earlier this week. That district officials fully expect to receive additional guidance and information from state officials on how to manage the pandemic. It's it's a moving target, isn't it? For School districts across the state deed around the country. Seibert Roach Review we are considering how to apply new guidance. The current plans we have in place are lined with previously released CDC. Guidelines and have been informed by staff input gathered through roundtable discussions weld are four is expected to begin classes. Wednesday August twelfth for half of its students and Thursday. August thirteenth for the other half, but had a for ups. Trying to figure out what the schedule is going to look like as you juggle. Alternating schedules. As far as your your kids getting back into school. And how do you pull all this together? When once again the goal post just keep moving as a result of the uncertainty with covid nineteen. Ninety, seven, three, five, three, thirteen, ten, how it dealing with this eight, seven, seven, three, five, three, thirteen ten. Drop me a text on our thirteen ten KFI text line at three, one, nine, nine six. All students will be in school. On Friday August fourteenth after which the normal daily schedule will resume earlier this week. You had district six Superintendent Dr. Deirdre pilch superintendents throughout the state having conversations. With, representatives from the Department of Education and the Department of Public Health latest plan created by the district, was developed based on communication with Commissioner of Education Katie Anthony, and Dr Brian early thought too early as the lead epidemiologist for the state health department. So? Let's get down to brass tacks. What do you say? Let's get into the specifics of all this and then well. What could throw a wrench into the works as? You've got the leader of the Colorado. Education Association this according to a piece by. Sherry pipe a page to complete Colorado. You can find it there. A COMPLETE COLORADO DOT COM, the leader of the Colorado Education Association and said it's possible teachers across the state will strike. As Colorado School districts continue to announce their reopening plans. You've got at least facebook group. Planning. A large large demonstration for today reinforcing that threat to not show up on the first day of work we'll get into all that in just a few closing in on eight fifteen now thirteen ten Kfi K., A. This time check sponsored by carrying, Hartson Healthcare, serving northern Colorado, since two thousand one or patient care always comes first nine, seven, three, seven, eight, zero, nine or caring hearts, H H dot, com holes bored story in northern Colorado state in the country tune into the whole show weekdays noon to two and thirteen ten Kfi K.. The day's headlines PODCASTS mornings with Gail and more and schedule upcoming sports broadcas find them at thirteen ten. KFI K. A. DOT COM. As our conversation continues at eight twenty five on the fact that Greeley Evans School. District six has revised their schedules for reopening and I can't help but think we're probably gonNA work through several iterations of this, but just to keep you apprised the most recent developments. Just wanted to work through that thirteen ten. KFI K A thirteen ten KFI. Dot Com northern. Colorado's voice mornings with Gail live and local via the auto collision specialists studios all right, so we know what the reopening date, well, at least the scheduled to reopen date for district six is and again they are setting grade level school schedules for reopening kind of like a hybrid schedule of for high schools, and the district plans to have that in place. At least through the first semester, the says classes are scheduled to begin in district, six Monday, August seventeenth and students in first through twelfth grades, kindergarten students scheduled to begin school Wednesday. August nineteenth classes for kids participating in a full online learning schedule actually begin the twentieth, but what does that all? All look like well mass will be required to be worn at all district, six schools, sites and events by all students, staff and visitors, medical documentation will be required for an exception mass are not recommended for pre school age children now dodger pilch. Superintendent Corsa Greeley Evans School districts six board of Education President. Michael Matthews well hosts an online town hall of from five thirty to seven M this on July thirtieth to provide more information for parents and families. The town hall can be viewed live on the district six youtube page, and if you have specific questions, you would like to submit to be discussed during this town hall. You can simply send an email to k crane. Christina's wonderful. I work with her frequently. A K crane CR. A. N. AT SCHOOLS DOT ORG by five PM. that would be five pm tomorrow. Now. You've got schools hosting a phased return to school with one third of the students attending each of the first three days of school. Students who are learning person will have their first day of school and here's where it gets a little. Complicated August seventeenth, eighteenth or nineteenth. Now you'll be notified by your school or schools as to which day. It's turning into a real scheduling nightmares and parents. And how are you going to handle this? My heart goes out to you. You'll be notified by your school or schools has to which day your students should report. students will only report for one of those three days. Students from the same household household will return on the same day. On the other two students will remain home or stay with a caregiver. On August twentieth and twenty first. All students will attend school. This is interesting. Kindergarten students will start as planned on August nineteenth, according to the district, the face reopening will allow administrators, teachers and staff to model for students and families, the new safety and health protocols that'll be followed daily and to help get students comfortable. With this multitude of new restrictions and guidelines and routines. Families will be asked to complete a covert nineteenth symptom. Check at home with each child every day. Children who have one of the symptoms must be kept home keeping sick children home courses central to stop spread of Covid, nineteen other illnesses and to help keep the schools of safe so once again as it is a moving target, this is the most recent plan. That has been issued by the Greeley Evans School district six as they set those grade level school schedules for reopening. I would suggest that you just visit the district website because there's lots of deadlines for registrations and. Things like that everything that you need to know so I would just visit. The Greeley Evans School district six a website because again. I can't help but think that this plan to could well be subject to change, but what might throw. A stick into the spokes. As, Colorado School districts continue to announce plans for opening in the fall this according to piece by Sherry Python Complete Colorado. The leader of the Colorado Education Association said it's possible teachers across the state. Will Strike. Demanding fourteen days of no new COVID cases. And, you've got at least one facebook group that is grown legs and plans a large demonstration to today reinforcing that threat, so we'll get into that in just a few eight thirty now thirteen ten KF K., thirteen ten k. k. preps radio is northern. Colorado's home for the past high school coverage by this is Dan. Patrick reminding you to catch me and the Danettes next on thirteen ten K. FDA now back to mornings with Gail. Just asking the question, does this make a case for charter schools? Eight. Thirty nine thirteen KFI, thirteen ten K.. F. A.. Dot Com Northern, Colorado's voice mornings with Gail live and local via the auto collision specialists studios this as a Cherry Pie frights on a page to complete Colorado. You can find this piece on complete Colorado's simply by a fire up the Google's and jumping on complete Colorado dot, com. Teachers demand fourteen days of no new covid. covid cases before going back to work and plan a day of action today. Now I understand we need to balance, and sadly as we're seeing a spike in cases, but once again you need to put that into context as more testing becomes available, and what we really need to be aware of is the number of hospitalizations and a rising death toll when it comes to Cova. But like with anything else reopening businesses reopening schools, you have to balance. Public Health. With getting on with our lives and this demand for fourteen days of no new covert cases. I, understand your concern, teachers I certainly do. But unknown unfortunately. Is that realistic? And are. We focusing once again on the wrong thing. You tell me nine, seven, three, five, three, thirteen, ten, eight, seven, seven, three, five, three, thirteen, ten, so many considerations here because is I've been asking all morning. How do you feel about sending your kids back to an in person learning environment I get it. You know the plans keep morphing and changing as demanded. By the novel Corona Virus. But are you ready for your kids to get back to school I? Saw An interesting stat just this morning, saying that forty four percent of parents across the nation. Are Not satisfied with virtual learning. And again it was the best that we could do. But is it time? To figure out a way. To get our lives back to get our kids back in school, many of them it's such a pivotal time particularly when you're talking about early childhood learning. Not only from. The respect of what they're learning in school, but the need, the very real human need for socialization from a safe social distance I get it. Meanwhile back to this. Cherry Pie Writing Incomplete Colorado. As Colorado School district's continue to announce their plans for opening in the fall, the leader of the Colorado Education Association said it's possible teachers across the state will strike. And? You've got at least one facebook group flexing its muscle planning large demonstration today, reinforcing not threat not to show up on the first day of work. According to the Colorado Sun Ce President Amy Baca Olert said in a news conference that union members want more involvement in school openings and decisions around mask, requirements, class sizes, and other changes to how students are tot. Designed to keep them safe safety, of course a major concern for us all. But it seems as though we're putting the cart ahead of the Horse because you've got district administrators across the state working with public health officials in order to. Develop those plans that will not only keep our kids safe, but sheep are teachers. Save as well. The Union is also calling for individual school districts to establish their own protocols which happening. Publicly released the data used in reopening decisions provide all students with access to remote learning tools. Such as computers and Wi fi while it seems to me as we work through that lengthy piece this morning by and Laney actually appeared July twenty fourth updated just yesterday. It seems as though that's exactly what Greeley. Evans School district six is doing. Several facebook groups have launched for teachers to air their concerns and they're. They're certainly entitled to their concerns, but it doesn't appear at least based on the information that we have from Greeley Evans School district sex that teachers are being left out of the equation. Teachers Am I wrong? Nine, seven, three, five, three, thirteen, ten, eight, seven, seven, three, five, three, thirteen ten, so you've got these facebook groups launching for teachers to air their concerns about returning to work in as soon as three weeks and some areas of the state. Concerns. Range from how to enforce mass. And how much cleaning they will be required to do. To substitutes in life insurance. One of the facebook groups Colorado schools for safe opening fourteen days, no new cases. Started, in support of growing National Movement to not open schools until there are fourteen consecutive days of no new covid nineteen cases. In the country in the county affiliated with the school district, planning to open. Is that. Even, possibly remotely feasible. And a time cove nineteen. and Are we focusing on the right issue? Outcomes not likely to occur anytime in the near future. As! Colorado is not gone one day without a single case since the state began reporting on March first. covid nineteen is going to be with us. and. Yes, we all hope for vaccine can ask tongue in cheek this morning. Will that be the October surprise? Weather be a vaccine in October. Because once again like so many other things. covid nineteen been weaponized and politicized. Some areas of the state may be free, but they're very few. Thought there was only one county in the state that was covered free off the double check that they're few usually very small rural communities such as Briggs Dale where that district announced earlier this week, it would resume classes in a near normal situation. You've got highland Arlene School district and all. About a third thousand students K. through twelve. That'll also reopen on schedule in odds August with mass optional. None of the States fifteen largest school districts are in counties where no new cases have been reported for even one day once again since March, first. So according to this piece in complete Colorado by Sherry Pipe. This grew. Colorado schools for safe openings fourteen days no new cases. Has More than seventy five hundred members has a list of demands. They want met before they'll return to work. That list is outlined in nine different letter templates that organ organizers say could be personalized, but asked that the basic to ban of fourteen days with no new cases not be removed. One of the leaders of the National Fourteen Day demand explained his reasoning, adding his goal is to eliminate the virus altogether will. Isn't that our collective goal? To advocate Kobe, nineteen. And what are the chances of that happening? Don't we need to be inventive and creative and figure out a way to deal with reality, and that is cove. Nineteen ain't going nowhere anytime soon. Harlison! High School History Teacher. Union organizer in Oakland wrote in a blog. There is no magic number of Nassar tests or plexiglass barriers that our district's and state's could acquire. That would make our return safe. When the nation is still reporting tens of thousands of new cases every day we must end the pandemic itself and unions and community organizations need to prioritize demands that will accomplish that goal. Well in a perfect world. I would concede that point. Unfortunately. It's a fools errand. To think that we are going to radically eight covid nineteen. So what? Are we going to continue the lockdowns. Are we going to continue to talk about older? The second wave of covid nineteen coming. Are we going to continue? To strangle. The Nation's economy and it could be argued our children's future. Why not use this as a teachable moment? Why not use this for what education is intended to do so that we can learn? We can learn our kids can learn. HOW TO COPE? With something that once again. is going to be with us. Your thoughts morning, nine, seven, three, five, three, thirteen, ten, eight, seven, seven, three, five, three, thirteen, ten. Drop me a text center, thirteen ten KFI, a text line at three, one, nine, nine, six. Oh this kind of interesting, too, and I'm hoping I'm actually just a scanning to find. An expert on this, but you know as you as parents have coped with the many demands placed on you as a result of covid nineteen. There's this interesting a new. learning modality, let's put it that way. A learning modality that is popping up and I hope to have someone on to talk about that tomorrow. It's called micro schooling. Are you familiar with that concept? Well not we'll talk about it tomorrow eight fifty now thirteen ten KFI. BURST TO UNC bears targeting game coverage lives thirteen ten KFI K will break down the first series for Colorado rockies in the shortened season coming up on the next hole show thirteen ten, Kfi. And of course thirteen ten, Kfi K. A. Your Northern Colorado home for the Colorado Rockies, eight, fifty, three, now, thirteen, ten Kfi am thirteen ten KFI K., A. DOT COM, northern Colorado's voice mornings with Gail and local via the Auto Collision Specialists Studios. Okay, now I want everybody to be safe. Don't get me wrong here, but unfortunately it looks as though we're lurching toward are there? Is there a political agenda at play here I'm just asking the question I know I. Have My own opinion on this, but interested in yours I. mean you know as I read the CNN headline this morning that all we are lurching toward another shutdown the nation. I don't think the nation's going to respond too well to that. How about you? But Now? I wanted to get back to this piece of from complete Colorado and again. By Sherry Pie teachers, demanding fourteen days of no new Cova cases before going back to work planning that day of Action Today. I want everyone to be safe. But unfortunately we have to learn to deal with the reality of covid nineteen. We can't just be locked down for the rest of our lives. How is that healthy for anybody? And what did we learn from that entire scenario? Absolutely nothing. But here's what's interesting. This is all based on a template that came out of a blog now. The local the local organization is facebook group Colorado Schools for safe openings fourteen days, no new cases well, the you know. That'd be great if we lived in a utopia, but we don't. And it's not going to happen, but I I'm just wondering what the real intent is here because schools are doing everything, they can to ensure that they have the plans in place so that they can reopen safely. So Harley Sleman. Is a High School History Teacher Union organizer in Oakland California Okay and he just basically went on about. There's no magic number of Massar tax or plexiglass barriers. That will make our return safe over the demands. Don't end here. And I think this is key information to just factor into the equation. Other, demands include. Mass testing contact tracing strict suspension of non-essential business and travel activity. Is the agenda becoming more clear? Basic income stimulus payments, rent and mortgage cancelation addiction prevention single payer healthcare personal computers at high speed Internet access for all students to learn remotely. Everybody gets a pony. No I'm being facetious there. But. Do you understand where my thought process goes with all of this? Basic income stimulus payments I mean I thought it was all about what they wanted was fourteen days of no new Cova. Cases I thought. This was all about health and safety. Go No. No. Silly me. Eight fifty-seven thirteen ten KFI. Whole sports story in northern Colorado state in the country tune into the whole show weekdays noon to two and thirteen ten Kfi K.. Loop. Monday morning. 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RuPauls Drag Race Season 12 | Episode 4 Ru-Cap

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RuPauls Drag Race Season 12 | Episode 4 Ru-Cap

"Hello Hello Hello and welcome to the Ru Paul's drag race root cap here on reality. Tv I'm your host Liana. Boris and we are here to talk about episode. Four of Paul's drag race season. Well we have our regular panel here today. If I a man who just got done playing. What would you call it? Like a mini sequester season. Brent welcome Brent is here how are you doing yes I did and bitch I played my ass off for that. Goddamn thing I played my ass off for that thing. Oh my God. I had such a blast. But that's not where we're here to talk about it. We'll talk about later. Okay Yeah we need to get all the T- later but we are here to talk about re Paul's drag race and of course we have the our very own troy Bolton of hugged casting on. How are you good? I'm trying to survive quarantine by relearning a bunch lady Gaga Choreography. So that's how I'm spending my days keeping Phoen- oh my gosh. I can't think of a better way. That sounds amazing songs. I did Alejandro and I think today. And we'll do Julius an inspiration to US ALL TRULY DETROIT. Bolden of guessing. God okay. Well let's get into this week's episode of which was the ball ball or the ball of all balls. I don't remember exactly what it's called but before we talk about that we have after the elimination where we lost our fierce brock ally and we have some general complaining about Brito into the top and Jan. It's a wakeup call for me. I also and to be in the top brand juvenile thoughts about what happened after our elimination. No not really. Wanting people overestimating their talent other people perhaps estimating correctly their talent people like Jan. Who maybe should have been judged a little bit better in this episode? Then maybe she was but yeah just the run of the mill stuff here. I did feel like it was pretty evident. A couple different things that was probably going to be in the top based on her early confessionals. Also the fact that whenever you see Cherry Pie. Talking with one of the Queen's they have gone out of their way to make sure Sherry pies in his little of his show as possible so if you see Sherry pie talking to a queen. She's she's either going to be in the top or she's going to be in the bottom. That's what you need to know. Because otherwise they wouldn't show it to you. Yeah exactly like there is a reason. Why the editors are you you see her talking to aiden. Jane Aden's Zane. Jane say it when you see her talking to Aiden Zane the know the in Zane is going to be in the top about and I think there's one thing that stood out to me too is that gee-gee said that this is a very strong group of girls which I feel like we hear every season but this is the first season where I felt like. Yeah no this is a really strong group of girls and so that was kind of cool to to see her comment on that Amman. But I don't know if there's anything maybe let's see. We saw a rock jump roping with her hair. Did you see that yes thank you yes. I got the video of it I made it. Yes I literally like. I pulled up the video on my phone and I'd like pull. I took a screen capture of the video. I pulled it into Jif maker and then I made it and then I send it to you so proud of you right. This is what the quarantine is teaching. Now she's so cute. I thought that on the runway would allow myself. Oh my God right thank you. Oh yeah maybe yeah. Maybe it was just opportunity. It's opportunity okay. Let's move into the next day in the workroom where we have our very first. Well I don't know if it's our first mini challenge because we did have the fall. Spring look runway thing but this is what I would define as probably are. I like true mini challenge where we are raising awareness. The declining population Amman. There any standouts here for our sort of be off dance off. Competition was sort of surprised that one. I mean she didn't necessarily do bad but I thought that like people like Heidi and who else through somebody else. That stood out to me that it's like there was no one else. I'm on I'm on. There was no one else besides Heidi. It was Heidi. She should have won. This what the fuck was ruth. Thinking there was nobody else icty in closet to win as many challenge. She is twenty five hundred dollars. Because God damn good did a Goddamn backflip and rue fell for it or whatever. I'm always like because we know that the sheet is cut together. Some what is it. That rule is seeing that. We're not seeing because that just seemed like a gross error in judgement like come on. I was shocked by the backflip. But yeah to me. It wasn't it didn't warrant the win. So yes that's cool I don't know did either. Have you guys see how apparently ru is allowing fracking on her ranch and friend was talking to you about somebody tweeted about this earlier and I was like what I don't even know. What fracking is. It's something to do with oil and getting our oil and mining or something. I I don't care okay. Care I mean that's fine. You cannot care you're looking for that. I'm on this. This is the last straw right like I. Don't care about fracking. But I thought it was funny because it was like okay. Yeah I'll allow fracking. But we need. The bees is always really know if it's sure not but like if that is true. So you know like really. You're over here. Trying to talk about saving the honeybees. But you're fracking in your backyard. Come on now lead. Let's choose to the cause rupaul shoes because I like also that the pit crew was in their little apiaries outfits but still had no pants and no shoes. Thank you as they shed that made me. That made me laugh But yeah there were no other real standouts to me. It was just like this very quick. Montage the although I will say the Sherry Pie her at it was like flash done which something and. I'm like no demon to do that. Yeah Okay and even had like a little sound effect in there. There was like ooh yeah. Glen are all right. Well let's just go ahead and move on now. Who is it Crap who said that Aden was the edith piaf of the workroom. Thought that was a really funny. I don't remember that but I love that. I love that line. I think it must've been. You must have been Nikki like she was a French singer. Nicki French probably Nikki Nikki. I'll say all right. Let's move onto the main challenge because we have so many frigging looks to talk about this week. We have thirty six. Looks all centered around the ball ball. So the Queen's this week have to create three different looks as I said based on sports balls but also just balls in general so we have the lady baller Real Nice luck the basketball wife realness and balls to the wall. Extra elegance a mind. What did you think of this category? And the fact that they went literally a ball. I really enjoyed I. I like when Rupaul forces them to make a garment because I think that that's a huge part of the artform drag all of these back in the days. These queensway came from nothing. They didn't have money so they had to so all of their own garments. So I'm always happy to see the queen's like to the to the sisters of yesteryear that had to work from the bone to get their shit so I was I was very excited for it I think it's like really really can't be and you. You know how I love camp so anything that has a theme you just go over the top but the theme of it. I feel some of these queens could have gone a little further but the theme in General. I enjoyed it. Yeah I had to say I really love these challenges myself. I mean it's it really tests the creativity and the undoing of the Queen's and it's even more so than like a show like project runway because project run by design it but unravels drag race own. It like it's theirs and they own it. And they walked the runway in it and they sell it and I just live for that. And when you get when you bring all of that together somebody who designed something fantastic and then. What's the runway in gives you a damn show? It's just everything and I thought everything about. This challenge really worked. I know that basically it's cut and paste. There's always like you know the first one is always a little like a little bit more. Low Key in the second category is little more Heike High Class and then the third category is the design challenge. Like we all know that that's what it is But I really thought that the categories worked really well and I also thought as we'll get to the celebrity guest judge and the panel had such a great time with the voluminous volume of Huns witness episode between balls. And everything else I. I had never had such a great time watching one hour of television. Yeah that's what I was reminded of when I was watching this episode was. Oh yes this is. The opportunity for the judges to just go all out with the runway jokes and the runway puns and originally. I think last week even I critiqued like Oh why is Leslie Jones here for the ball challenge? It's a design. Essentially Design Look Challenge and then. I was like Oh this is why they want somebody who is freaking hilarious and Leslie. Jones was amazing and they can deliver all these wonderful lines as we have. These thirty six looks to go through so Let's see well. Is there anything that we want to talk about with any worker and stuff beforehand before we just break into these looks? I lived at crystal said. I'm excited to show what I can do about. Mc Site also excited to see people fail. I will say that I'm very mixed emotions about the whole aiden of it. All because the queen's are being total hunts. Let's let's just be real. They really are. They are being absolute bitches to Aden. Yeah I just own your shit. And they're they're being unnecessarily rude to him to her whatever depending on the center out of drag And it's just really uncalled for. But also I feel like the show is also falling for some of that by trying to make Aden the new jinx new Eden doesn't have the talent level of jinx. So he just comes off as like most fans at this point are kind of annoyed that Aden's there so it Kinda lent so now the fans are being mean girls to Aden and the queen's are being mean girls to Aden and I don't feel good about it at all especially on the season with Sherry pies so knock it off. It's it's starting. It's very I mean it's been annoying me from jump from the very first episode but I am the jump I I it. She's not she's not jinx so it's sort of like making it hard for me to continuously go to bat for her. I'm like bitch like you don't deserve all of the vitriolic. You're getting but at the same time I need for you to. I need for you to bring it more than you're bringing it to get off your back you know 'cause I I'm already sick of it. I was thinking of this story. Because this is not compelling me anymore all these girls gang up on you. It's old. It's it's tired let's let's move the fuck on you. Know what I mean. Like riches in their place worked runway. Kill the challenges. And let's move on because I'm tired. I'm tired Yeah I. I'm over the Queen's ragging on her at the same time though I'm so frustrated she's still there not because it's eight in fall. I one hundred percent blame the show. I think actually Mike Bloom asked. So what percentage was the choice to keep aiden away to instigate dramas last shade from the other girls on a scale of ninety five? To one hundred. I think that that's why she still there. Because otherwise they just hate rock which is also entirely possible. Like I really don't get it. It doesn't make sense and I think it's just there for a story line. I think it's just there for trees read so trance parents. I just I basically. It's the same thing that's happening on big brother Canada right now. Which is I'm like asking the question to the producers thing that we're this stupid because the answer is no not in twenty twenty with social media. We are not the stupid. We know what you're doing. Stop Doing Bat drag race stop it maybe maybe fans maybe. A large percentage of pins are stupid induced. Like sort of like buy into this whole story line. You know what I mean because I mean we podcast about the show like we watch the show. We studied the show. Maybe it was. Your fans aren't really doing it to that level so they're just kind of like. Oh yes drama. I'll push back on that though because like Rupaul drag race bed bread and butter is you know people from viewers from like eighteen to thirty nine years old. Those people that are watching Grey's right in those people are all into social media and twitter and instagram and communicating with each other. They know the the and if anybody is going to be outraged by anything. It's those people in a in fact even younger even younger than eighteen years old. I know that people from thirteen to seventeen in that age group of the Nielsen Demographics. Watch rupaul drag race and tweet about it and fuss about it. So they're going to be aware of stuff like this when it's being pushed on them and I can't imagine any of those people who are the people that route drag races trains are reached through. Vh One are people that are going to be very happy about. What's being done with Asian Zane Right? Now it just. It doesn't feel good again. I don't like it because I don't feel good from. I don't feel good about it from the Queen's point of view and I don't feel good about from the show's point of view and I don't feel good about from Aden's point of view so everyone's a loser the queen's to in untucked this week we'll end. We even saw it on the frigate episode. They one hundred percent thought that was gonna be in the bottom. I think they thought it was probably going to be rock versus aiden. Maybe with an outside chance of British versus Eden and so I think that when you have people in the room that for them it seems so abundantly clear of what the decision is and then you see the opposite of that while there's something going on right that doesn't make sense because if so many people can see it like what you know. Just don't make no sense at all. Yeah I suppose that's true though. I do think that Britain is getting by a little bit of her name recognition in the way. She carries herself. Because truth. Be told this a spoiler for the end of the podcast but in my eyes it should have been Britta an aide in the bottom Chu. I don't even know how rock ended up there but we can get to it quick twitter search of Aden Zan's name Ab right. I went to her but I went to her twitter just to see and they're like go home. She's like anybody. WanNa buy merch not in a sarcastic a hey like I would like for you guys to buy merge if you this is a t shirt and literally the responses are like nobody nobody go home. Nobody like it's just it's so fucking mean that's why I blame the show for this totally. Yes if you're putting her through this by keeping her yes if she would have just been kicked off when she was supposed to be kicked off. We'd be she'd beat the Rob Goddess. Like oh you we love you like did they were so mean to you but you know we love you girl we love you but now now rocks. GonNa get that when she should be still on the show and Aidan is. They're taking up space when we know she's not a contender. Yeah and I really. I don't know I don't know man. Well we can talk about talk about our looks because I even thought some of the critiques were were interesting but let's go ahead and move onto the runway. Brent. I know you WanNa talk about Leslie Jones. You go you go girl. I mean she's everything she's like literally the best judge ever in the history of rebels drag race ever ever like she is just such a blast and she's so there for the Queen's and she knows them and she lives it through them and she's there for them and I'm just everything about it was so much more fun to watch because it felt like leslie was there for us. You know what I mean. She was there watching the queen's and gagging just like we would if we were on panel and having such a blast and trying to make trying to keep up with the puns that they're dishing out and you know the writers write some of them for them but they also come up with some of their own. And so it's just like it was such a grand old time. I'm sure she was just pinching herself so it was just such a fan. You know I was living vicariously through her and she she no. It's always a treat when the when the judge is a fan of the show in knows the ponds knows the self-referential stuff like she had horses pine like I was just playing. Come on like she was just. She was just totally. They're just too. She was living her life and I loved every minute of it. I people are saying you know. Make Leslie Jones a permanent judge. I'm like I don't know if I need that but I would definitely be here for like a Leslie Week. Every season just to have her there for one of the weeks every season. Just because she's she's just a delay his great. I think part of the appeal to was that all my gosh. I'm so excited I live tweet. I've been a fan of this for so long now. I'm here excitement and I think if she was a regular judge a little bit of that goes away but that being said she was absolutely fantastic. The filming the Alexis. Michelle filming of Rupaul. Where she's like holding the camera on her phone like way out looks so cute and even untouched like everything about Leslie. That she brought to the table was so amazing and it just was a joy to have her and to have her contribute and somebody who is that passionate about the show. You can't help but love to watch them exactly okay. Let's kick things off with the Queen's looks are thirty six locks what we're going to do for this. We're GONNA talk about each queen at a time. So we'll talk about their three. Looks all at the same time so we will start with Jackie? Who WALKED THE RUNWAY? I Amman. What are your thoughts on what Jackie brought to the table today? Remind me of Jackie's look. I'm trying to find it real quick. She had the U. Lacrosse out said with the Star spangled a sequined Lacrosse paddle with the the Red Jersey number. Yeah look I liked it. I mean I'M A. I'm a big Fan Jersey dress you know. I'm a child of the early two thousand so those were all the rage back then so I was instantly recognisable for me. I like to the pump so that it had caught on the back and then like the bedazzled. Lacrosse speared thing. What do you call it? It's a IT'S A. It's a lacrosse sticks. Sorry I didn't know what to call it. Yeah I very much enjoyed her title nine. Look in fact. I enjoyed it far more than I enjoyed her basketball. Look I thought that this did not look The the the basketball wives look. I should say on this rich enough for me or Bugendana for me. I I felt like it was a little bit meet and greet For me like you know. Just go down to the down to the club to meet your fans. Regret down to the convention to meet your fans like. It wasn't something that I felt like was rising to the level of boozy basketball wife. That's not if that's what she's going for. It needs to be judged up. I would agree with that. I I one. She walked out. I really liked it but then after I think I saw J does was when I kind of had. That flashback of like. Oh yes like. This could have been just one notch higher but that being said I still really liked it. I loved loved loved. Loved her Lacrosse. Look so I played Lacrosse and this to me is she was the first one that walked out and I was like yes. Bid snappin sitting on my couch like all for it especially because she ties in the fact that you know she is a Canadian rainy and she's heart Canadian and and so she had that as her theme in there which I thought was so so cool. I don't know how she the health plan those heels but I thought that they were wonderful and then four her ball was it ball. No what was the tie balls to the wall Elegant look I thought this was such a creative usage of the pieces that they had doing the shawl with the. I don't even know what you would call it like big inflated ball. I thought that was really cool as an elegant silhouette you know. She's still doing the the time. The period inspired pieces. But I loved it here with this sixty s dress. But don't you think that this particular look ages her even more with the Shaw and everything like I just cannot help but see. I know that she calls herself the Queen of the evening. And that's fine but my God I I've talked about this before with other contestants queens paint themselves to be looked twenty years older than what they really are. I take twenty five year old boy and turn her into a forty five year old woman. That is what this looks like right now and I don't understand why she has to style her hair and where her clothes in such a cut in such a way consistently that it ages her. Amman can you please explain that to me? I mean I guess it's just her stick. You know I mean I feel like she's just found and stuff. That was the the era of time that she feels the most comfortable and that just is what it is. I didn't necessarily get it. Didn't read old to me. The the last look the boss of the wall but it sort of just give me. Oh this is Jackie Cox Again. Like there was no innovation to it for me but I mean I like to color and I like the fact that it that it had like that that would. I don't even know what I'm having a hard time with words today. Whatever you would call material that jacket. That was kind of see through but not but it was like vinyl or something like the plastic blow up from the balls. Cut It up yeah. That's what ended up making a raincoat. Or Shaw out of it. So Yeah I take your point on that then the texture of the outfit. I found very intriguing and I love the geometric shapes using the soccer balls or or some other vol's she is to make those shapes in the dress and all of that. The construction of it was well done. All of that is good. It is simply the fact that I feel like this is the dress we see from her over and over and over and over again. And I'm just a little sick of it. Give me something different. The same silhouette like she has the thing. She doesn't have Bianca Del. Rio's level of talent to be able to wear the same dress over and over every episode. Okay Oh she needs to give me something more. I want to think that this was. It made sense that she was safe. Because I think that this was something I think she'd been talked about this in her preseason interview where she doesn't really like to step that far outside of her comfort zone and I think that the looks that we've seen so far probably highlight that fact so if you love her brand which personally I do I really like it but I totally understand. The critique of this is repetitive. This is boring. I WanNa see something new so I definitely get it from that perspective now. Let's talk about Nikki. Nikki doll Who of course are look queen which there were high expectations from the judges? What did you think about Nikki's looks this week? I thought they were pretty fantastic. I don't know if they were necessarily top three but they were but I can see the argument for that. I think that her the first look the sporty title. Nine look was absolutely fantastic It wasn't just the look itself. It was the makeup. It was the hair. It was a different look from her. It was a it was a messier. Look in the face then. I think she's that I'm used to from her so I enjoyed seeing that very much. I thought she got it right with the with the knee high boots or the pastor knee so I can buy whatever it was. She got it right with the boots. I was glad this is your boots with that outfit. And the everything to do with the bedazzled course end to end the PAT him. You know what you would call it the padding over the shoulders and everything but that was just an absolute home run and I think the judges responded accordingly. I will say that her basketball wives look on as heard on another podcast. Is this like the French Basketball League? Because we know what the hell this is go ahead. That's exactly what I was GONNA say. I just did. I was basketball. I was like. Have you seen the show? Do you know what you're there's a show just so people understand there is a show on. Vh One called basketball wives. Okay I don't know people know that. But that's what they're going for here with the synergy. I think a lot of people miss that. And that's why we ended up with things like this. Yeah it was just yeah. I felt it was very. It was very Parisian. It was like. Oh I'm just GonNa you know she thought okay. I'm just GONNA be Richard Wife from France and it's like girl that's not what we asked for at all opulent. Yes I will say that but I get. Et doesn't really fit the theme necessarily not not at all not at all. This is something that she had in her closet that she repurpose knowledge. Which excuse me I know. Some of these queens are guilty but it has to fit the challenge. It has to like like the Jada for instance. Well we'll get to her but look at her outfit. I know that gown that she had was somewhere in her closet somewhere. She's worn it sometime but she made it look Buji and fun and everything do with what you think of the basketball wife this on the other hand no way. The judges were smoking crack when they were trying to say that this was anywhere in the vicinity of basketball. I mean those need a break. Those nine French lives that she talked to him at the beginning of the preseason rent. That's what's getting her through right now. Well obviously yeah look. They love her but the other thing that I really elevated her was her third look the elegance a look because even though I think the Roxie Anders did a better on her season I love this. Look she really knows how to accentuate her shape and I thought it was interesting that she was like. I don't know if she was standing right there with next to Aden the entire time during the critique but I think she was actually because I looked at the two of them and one of the knows their body and one of them does not. And I'm telling you what this queen knows her body. She knows how to pat and how to shape and how to give volume where it's needed to. Accentuate things and enlarge things and slim things. Everything about this really worked. It had movement it had flare everything about the colors that had Wednesay had fun. Construction was impeccable and she knew how to stop a runaway. So what's not to love again? It was two out of three but it wasn't three out of three. I think I liked her. I look the lady. Bolers won the best for a lot of the reasons that you guys brought up. I thought it just. It was so cool. It was so stylish but you could still tell like she could be playing in the lingerie football league. And I would one hundred percent believe it like she's all decked out with a shoulder pads and everything. I think. That was the best. I also co-sign the critiques on the basketball wives. Look and then in terms of the last look it reminded me of Aviad. Leigh's dress even the same sort of Color Palette and I think he had harder materials to work with and so I can't help make that comparison a little bit but that being said I thought it was still really pretty. The addition of the hips as raw said. I thought was gorgeous and I thought really helped to shape her so I think she did a really great job now whether or not. She was in the hop That could be debatable. I think for me she was probably like third of the three top looks but she also gets this personality critique from the judges which I take significant umbrage with because she has personality. You just don't like her personality. It's like go get a new personality. That's what they want to tell her. Yeah we've we've we've heard this before. Yeah Yeah So. I'm over that and frustrated by it and I'm worried that she will fall prey in this next episode. Because it's going to be an acting challenge to this whole thing so I'm hoping that she can do something about it but she is. You have to play the game if it's a game show if the judge don't like something about you you have to at least give the appearance of going along with what the judges are asking of. You. I always go back to Bianca del Rio. Michelle said I don't want that white eyeliner on your on your is it. Make sure is weird. I don't like it and even though that was really a critique the next time you saw Bianca del Rio white line. Wasn't there anymore okay. So she just needs to play the game a little look. They obviously love her okay. They love her. They love her face. They love her as a person they want to hurt. You do well like the opposite of rock them sock okay. They love her. They want Nikki doll to do well so just meet them halfway. Just give them a little bit. Just bought your side your comfort zone. Do some stupid thing with your eyes or your face or whatever. Give it to them. So that they'll get the fuck off your back and you go back to doing what you do. Well which is this. I agree with you. I was like how the fuck are you going to judge personality or no fucking challenge. That has nothing to do personality. It's all about your damn look got here. You made them walk out three times in a row. Three different outfits. You're asking like we just don't get your personal bitch. She's walking the runway. What do you want you wondered if I wish I really wish Leslie had said that? But then less before she she got yeah. She offered good good advice at the end of that. But I was like really. You're really sipping the kool-aid today you're all infra drag race today. But I mean I I like the third look it also reminded me of the FARMINGTON runway. Look from Yardley Sam Color Palette almost the same bodice to So but it was. It was it. Was IT FIT? Well I liked the HIP accentuation. And she's a look. Wayne g definitely delivered on that last. Look so good for her. Well Liana unless you want to add about we. We talk about Aden's aim next. So why don't you? We've been dominating the discussion for why don't you give me your thoughts on inks? Yeah thanks for letting me start with. I know how it is being on the podcast. Were like two people. Talk and your. They're always the third person has to pick up scraps because when I host. That's basically what I do so I I try to make a conscious effort to make sure that like it's more balanced else to go that he wanted. No no no. It's totally no. Okay so yeah. Let's talk about eight and so her I look. I agreed with the judges. I really liked it much league of her own. I thought it was cool. It was simple but it was still a neat. Look and I think that that's where would she talks about her drag being simple but it has to be really good. I mean the first look was not really good but it was still good. I don't think it was the Nikki doll football player level at all. But I thought that it was that she definitely had a point of view with the look that she had created and I was like okay. I'm cool with that. The last two looks the Peggy Bundy inspired basketball wives. Look Nah that's a no for me dog. And then the last look my God the fact that Jan was the one who had to point out that it was free and then she went with the the whistle it was just oh God it was so bad and she was like missing half her outfit. So I'm on I mean. Please help me out on this one. Yeah like she so I wasn't a big fan of I look. I mean I understood. What she was doing was very vintage a type uniform. Look and I think that's probably why the judge is whether you liked it because it you know it was recognisable for them but at the same time. I'm like it's not. It's not screaming dragged to me because the more that I watched this show in the more that the art from drag it's not just at least for Rupa's drag race drag. It's not just about dressing up like a woman you have to drag it out like you have to be dramatic and it has to be elevated and it just felt like it was just her. She found she found an old look and she wore the old look and I was like okay. Well that's that's it the second one also just not basketball wives. What what show are these people watching? It's just not what is that. It was like Betty boop mixed with. Yeah like Peggy Bundy mixed with Franken. I don't even know it was just not just not the t the third look. I understood what she was trying to do once again. She just it's like she literally got she was done. She was like I don't want she's like she made this whole excuse about like. Oh I like it to be simple like I feel like if I add more than than I'm Su- growing with my own image and my girl it's your image to do whatever the fuck you want with it but you can not just stop working in the middle of the day. There's there is a problem if everybody else in. The work room is still working on their garment. You're done that's a problem. It's not just oh you know I'm that's just how I wrote us. I'm disparaging the rest of the Queen's no it's not done it's not done you take a nap. You couldn't falls on a damn corset and then call it a day and you didn't even know that it was the referee. Look which is insane to me. Yeah and the fact. I love the now because I was like. Oh well tyra didn't season two. Yeah the opposite. Oh tyra came and like this is just. This was so bad. I'm trying to be fair to her but I didn't like any one of these looks. I thought the judges were way over praising the I look. I don't even know what that says. But this is obviously some repurpose thing. This is not for like a League of their own. Because you can see those initials the initials are like N. B. S. which I don't even know what. Nbs stands for. I tried to think of some basketball. Baseball's sociation I just said sociation for for the as associate of a God. I'm terrible anyway like literally. It doesn't work so obviously. This is like somebody else's monogrammed Shirt Jersey. Now get nightgown that she's repurpose for this challenge and by the way Robbie Turner did it better when she did a leaker their a league of their own on the second. Look I mean that was probably the worst one up there although British was close. This Peggy Bundy. It looks like a mall shopper. It did not look like and she tried to say well. I'm the basketball wife. Who thinks she has? Ma What what are you talking about? That makes sense that is now within the whole theme. Yes she changed the category to fit what she wanted to do. And by the way I I would have been caught dead without bringing out a bag. The didn't have a name on shaving. If you're going to bring a bag out there it cannot look like a grocery bag a grocery bag. There was one of them. If you'RE GONNA IF YOU'RE GONNA take a bag out there. You need to be like Julia Roberts in pretty woman when you say hey you work on commission right. Big mistake big huge. I have to go shopping now. Like you need to have like any bags on each side to show that you have been everywhere shopping and then some not one for little sad baggage. That was terrible and then go ahead. I was just GonNa say if you'RE GONNA go without the of I think I have money but I don't like I don't know make them dollar store bags but have like a bunch of that story ativity. She did the bare minimum on this. And then like you said Amman. It was of course it with little balls stuck on it. That was all it was. There was no more to this and she tried to retro. Con Rep cons are retro. Conrad con a story about why she did what she did when she realized that the outfit look the way it did well a simple queen and this is usually what I do and I don't want to anymore because I don't want to mess it up and also. Oh Yeah Yeah. It's a referee. And I'm GONNA totally own walking down the runway. Obviously it's a refereed. Doesn't everybody know that? Like you know Jan totally pointed to try to help out. She's like I wish. I think I have a whistle with if I can find it. Apparently she didn't fight. It's like Oh well Janice pointed out that. This looks very much like a referee. So I think I'm GONNA GO WITH THAT. I mean like it's and it's so hard for me to hate owner because I felt like she's so earnest and he's not again. It's not her fault that she was called safe when obviously she was not supposed to be safe. So I'm trying to you know there's there's no hate at her. It's just. This was the miss all around. There was a miss you I mean. I love her as a person I think she's grey and I don't know I had come to her defense because people are so down but at the same time it's like I have to have something to defend. She looks like the kid from sex education. Butterfield and bad drag. That's what she looks like. He'll think about her. Is that I a couple of things. I don't think that she understands her body very well. Because when you see her out there she does not know how to Pad Correctly. She looks very boxy. Okay and I know I realized that not all women look like you know. Jada for heaven's sake I get that but on the but you're on Paul's drag race and you're supposed to be able to correctly and she doesn't. She looks very. She does not make her look as good as I think she wants to look. She wants to look a certain way. And it's not getting there. Okay so I feel like Patti needs help but also the show is playing her up as this sort of you know like whimsical misunderstood. Underdog right. Because they're trying to have their jinx moment with her but it just really how far outside of main stream that the show is we have shows like Dracula where this sort of queen is not very different at all in fact this is a very normal queen. She's just a flapper with winged eyeliner. And that's literally all she has. She's not very different. It's just it's it's a it's a it's a mirage. They're selling to us. I just wanted to tell the producers. Let it go let it go. You know this is done. This is tired and the fact that didn't end this episode and we will continue to see it next week. I mean I don't know maybe she'll maybe she'll be really good at acting like next week. Yeah I think she survives next week and we'll probably have two more episodes. I'm guessing because she's pretty good if the acting stuff released not terrible at it so well and the thing that really sucks to. She's already had more episodes than a normal queen of her caliber would have because they had those two premiers right off the top you know split into half and they didn't eliminate anybody from either one so she lasted an extra three weeks and she got another week because of this monstrosity. Whatever anyway. That's so insane okay. Well let's move on. Let's talk about rock. Somebody who I think. We all love but the judges really don't for her. Yeah go go in on it. I mean Hush I. I'm so upset because while rock did not do the best of this challenge. The judges really missed the market evaluating this for the first look the title nine. Look with the basketball that she she had her hair like an up. Do and then there was a basketball inside of it but you couldn't tell that when she came out and her. She had a very plain dress with knee. High Black boots or not yellow bodysuit and and and it was very plain but that was the point because it was a ball challenge and she wants the point and the accentuation to be on her face and on her hair and then she comes out with what is probably the best wig. Reveal of all time I will say this though they spoiled it with their little intros on the rows of the episode where they like. They have an Altro to an episode. Show coming up. Sell the ball follow overhead and it looks like a mistake. And you're trying to make you think it's a mistake when in reality you know. It's not a mistake so so lost some of its impact. When she was actually on the runway. I don't know if you guys saw what I was talking about. But they totally spoiled it so she comes out on the runway and she does this thing and you guys don't even know how hard it is to number one not show that that's going to be a reveal then to do the reveal then walked the runway with that thing swinging around not only did not pull anything off of her head not only did it not get caught in any party for big. It was so well done every part of that little ball swinging around and then to at the end to have it hit her. She had a whole skit plans. I just thought this was absolutely spectacular and I understand why I don't understand. I acknowledge that the judges are coming from a place where they're like well. Everything about the look was so boring. Why g you need everything else to have such a business? When there's so much going on top she wanted you to look at the headdress and the basketball that's what that was about and that was amazing. What she did out there again. Best for real for hair ever I thought and then she comes out there and swings at around like it's nobody's business with perfect choreography until she's walking back down the runway and gets hit with it on purpose and then goes off stage right so I don't know what the judges were talking about with the slow I li- liberal just we can also shut up from there. We can talk about more. I mean the one the one thing that I was wondering if they were supposed to be athletes of some sort because then I was like she had tetherball player. Is She a shot-putter? Like if there was some sort of critique maybe on that element that I could get but if it was just lady ballers and it was sort of up to interpretation. I love this I thought it was so cool and I thought the fact that her makeup was different shows one versatility and also again. Brennan highlights the fact of look at my wit a bit spin around. That's so grants she looks so Goddamn Fishy. So she looked so unlike how she normally paints and it totally worked for her on the way and I totally agree. I thought that I wasn't even looking at what she was wearing in the grand said. I'm not a drag race judge so if I had if I were a judge of course I would be looking at what she was wearing but I was. I was focused on what she wanted us to see. And the that she was able to keep that ball spinning as she's walking like in the wiggins and coming off of her head because they love heavy shit look like it had some pounds on it. So I I was. I thought it was. I thought it was women's call. Thought it was funny. I thought it was a reverend. I thought it was all the things that I like about. Rackham soccer to begin with and that they could not get past the dress. Which didn't dad by the way it's not like she came to looking like it'd be one thing if like the dress which is a disaster but she looked good. She looks fine. She just had let me tell you. I think she was in the top three for this next part of the challenge. The second look basketball wife the Buji. Oh my God this is. What's the mark? This is what basketball wives wear. Go GO MOM. Go No that that. That's it that's it that was that was that was the the basketball wise outfit that. I was like okay finally I was like. Finally somebody understands what is going on here. Understands what the fuck they're trying to do here with the synergy with the basketball wives and vh one. They finally understand rock totally understood what was going on. She walked out there and address with her. Boobs are titties out to hear when basketball wives when when women who are in this. I'm not trying to be overly stereotypical but I'm talking about on this show in this timeframe in twenty twenty when women are trying to get a ball or on this show. That is what they do. They go out there and they'd get himself on titties and they get himself some ass and they stick it on themselves and they get like Plumpton talks and you pumped up to here and they get a man and then they're good you go bitch. They're good to go. I couldn't even believe they were coming for her Patty. I know her padding. I'm losing my voice. I'm screaming so I know her patting was a bit much but everything about her was a bit much and considering the challenge. This was such an over exaggerated version of what a baller wife should look like. I thought it totally nailed. It and I can't believe they weren't. They weren't more there for it. We know what baller wives look like. This is it look at the makeup. The hair she looks sexy. I couldn't believe that that Rocco Look Sexy Liana. Yeah I'm scrolling the pictures now I think that for that category Her look was my second favorite next. Jesus that's exactly how I called it I everything about it was so good apart from the padding the padding critique again that it looked really box I get. It sits a little too low. It's not like it sticks out. It's awkward but I thought that in comparison to everything else that was so fantastic about the look. I was ready to excuse it. I was like what that's fine. I'm over it. She looks so fishy. Her makeup is so good. Her hair is perfect. The outfit is perfect. It's like the perfect length titties are out like every put together with. I was living for it. I loved it so much. Yes Oh my God I the only thing that is wrong with it for me is like I mean. I understand what she was trying to do. In the she wasn't like left with a lot of material so as far as the coordination of the balls. That was the only thing that it was like. Oh this kind of it's kind of making my eyes jump everywhere but aside from that the function she designed that skirt and everything. I was like so sad. Destroyed it also. This is so beautiful I like. I love the stress. I loved the way that it fanned out down towards her legs. I love that you could see her legs through the train legs that it had like this little circular opening at the bottom. I liked the heavy shoulder pads. Let the balls were also in her hair like the walk that she had she was doing and she was just being very very extra and quirky. I just love everything about it and I just I. I thought that she really took took the took the challenge to task and unlike sad that the judges didn't like it that much okay. Here's what I would okay. Here's what I would have liked her to do with the last leg because I actually liked it except for the bottom so either she needed more weight on that bottom piece. That hangs down because the way it moves just looks destroyed from the rest of the exactly. I think she was also didn't have enough time to finish putting balls on some of the strings so I think that also could have been part of it. What I wanted her to do was cut that bottom piece off and then stick balls to her tights so then it continues to go down her leg instead of stopping abruptly. 'cause my concern is that if she cuts it off then it just is to Sharp of a cut where it looks than her legs are just kind of stuck on so continue to stick balls down. Your legs. Faded down to your shoes that I think I would have been very happy with the luck because I was not nearly as down on it as I think the judges were Brent. I was probably the most down on it of the three of us. But I'm not nearly as down on as the judges were because my biggest critique was that it had no sense of purpose with the look and by that I mean the colors of the balls and the size of the balls. Were completely random you look at somebody like G G good okay. Who had a sense of what the colors of the balls needed to be and where they needed to be on the outfit. She didn't put him on every part of the outfit they had a a story and a texture of how they were situated on the garment with rock. She just literally like dumped them all over like Michelle said. It was like the cat one for this outfit. You know. That is my biggest problem now. I heard another critique then didn't bring me more rounds because I think it was my friend Jimmy Pink on Youtube who said that the colors and the overall aesthetic of this look along with her makeup go with her. Anna may sort of look that she is known for. And even though. I don't agree with the like complete assault on my eyeballs. That his this outfit and the color saturation of it. That it does feel very anime and that she did what she did pretty well. Now I agree with your take. Liana the construction of it especially at the bottom is particularly poor. Also I don't know if you guys saw the back of it but the back does not look good. She like just. I can't basically a Italy either. She's done something asymmetric or its off kilter because it doesn't look right at the bag. I just think that it just the I think. Here's the thing in the judges. Is I think that they thought that she literally just took her outfit. And put a bunch of glue on it and then just took a bunch of balls and dipped it in. That's what it looked like the lab because they couldn't see anything more than than I don't think they particularly like Rackham. This is my read on the situation. But I'm guessing that Russian doesn't really love her because she cries everything and You know she's a crier. Whatever I'm not coming for her for that but she does seem to be a handful and I don't know maybe they just didn't like her but again she had no business being in the bottom three no business being in the bottom two and you know the good thing about her is that she gets to be a rob G dot oddest now with the rest of the Queen's and Rupa's drag race. I can't remember the queen last year. who was the queen last year. Who got sent home? We Love Well. Ya Scarlet was one. That was definitely one. There was another person. She was like an older queen. I way way what what whatever it was Shogun. Yes go home. And they'll live sing. Oh my God yes thank you. There's always one queen in every other season who gets a raw deal and unfortunately for rock who I absolutely loved in his cute as a button as a girl and a boy It was her this time and I really I feel bad for. I just feel like the editor trying to eighteen. They should have reserved for Rocco. Because she's the true quirky one. You know what I mean like I agree. Yup She's the one that's got talent where I feel like. She could somehow sneaker way into the finals especially if Cherry Pie makes the finals and they need somebody to fill that spot with the fifth place. Finisher like to me could have been rock them. It really could have been and she is unique in such a fun and indistinct way like I just. I really really like her and I want her to come back. And I'm sad that she's gone so go to my summer. I didn't really sad. I was stunned by the way you know. I just a little behind the scenes stuff. I did not watch the episode on Friday night because I was busy. I can't remember that my parents or something. I wasn't watching it but and I stay up social media but I had. I had saw something that somebody had sent me and it was a tweet from rock and rock. The tweet from rock them was to the Queen and knows spoilers but the to the Queen who went home on this episode. I just want you to know that I really don't like you very much. I really hate you or something like that and I was like. Ooh that sounds shady sensitively on in a mine and I was like Ooh. This sounds the sounds spicy. I can't wait to see but I have watched the episode. Don't spoil it for me. And then Liana Rollback. She doesn't really hate that person after all yourself. It's so funny 'cause he sent it and I was like what do I say? I don't want to say I don't WanNA spoil it so I'm just going to let this play out like he'll figure it out soon enough. Once I saw she was in the bottom two. I saw a figure it out. I was like Oh this this feels. Like Rigor Mortis Bench Rigor Morris. Yeah all right. Let's move on. Let's talk about Jada. I'm going to kick things off. Because Jada second look I literally wrote down. Verbatim the quotes basketball wife is about a feel. She looks put together an. I'm a basketball wife in my mind. Oh my God living living for this look I think she was. The person who in my opinion best was able to understand present and just captivate me when it came to the basketball wife category. I mean I just was blown away by what she was able to do. I forget what she does that I just saw. I think it was Michelle that she disarmed Porsche when she was walking down. That and of course it's it's eighty by the fact that essence all is a black woman. Okay so it's sort of like she's really really feeling the fantasy there but just the all the dress the hair the scarf all of it all of it all of it honey. It was just great. It's great and of course I love. You have go ahead. I'm sorry I thought you were done. Go I go. I love the fact that she she came out for the for the sport look with with an actual Jersey on everything with the ball and everything. It was very masculine but at the same time very feminine to like it was just. I just fulfil. She got the best of both worlds telling the story. The entire like if you came out as the basketball player and I then she came out as the Basketball Wife. Second and then for the third look. She came out as like the bath that the basketball wife in basketball player took together at the end of a long game. God and in her third. Look I mean Oh my God. I was stunned by this. I really thought she was in trouble. I really fell for the at the editor's trying to like she was in trouble. She was running out of balls. And the Queen's regifter giving her the side either Coochie Coochie looks and I was like. Oh no because like I really love her and I don't want her to be in the bottom and then she comes out and she absolutely fucking nails. This was stunning. It was everything I watch. She looked so fem and I love the fact that she owns it. She calls herself a female illusionist. She's a female impersonator. She does it so well. She's just like I'll I'll totally admit it. Anybody who's listening to drag race knows that this is just totally my style of drag everything about the Shia serving. I am living for and not only that for the for the elegance challenge but for the the Jersey challenged the title nine the first look her socks match the sequence of Her Jersey and the socks are not droopy like other people and the truth is fitted in such a way that still makes it look feminine. Which is what she's going for. And the Headband. Is there sparkly as well and the JERSEYS SPARKLED? And she's a terrible basketball player but besides that besides that she was absolutely great the second look. Liana said it. She absolutely owned it. I mean it was my number one. Look at the night in that category. She just asked. She's so good when she's out there walking the runway and serving it to us bitch and then that third look the way she holds her hands in the way she does her legs and as a boy. Jada is pretty Bush as day. Guys Go away your guys than that. Queen and she is stunning as a boy and to see her. Go from being a boy to the female illusionist on. The runway is absolutely spectacular and totally stunning. I am I could not stand her anymore. Okay I think for me. I mean look. There was a little bit of the literal interpretation of at least the first two categories and. I think that that's something that you know okay. Is this like so outside of the box? No not necessarily but the way that it was executed was so top notch that I think it doesn't matter like if you're going to do something so amazing it's fine and then for the last look that she was the fact that she was able to pivot and go from. I was going to do this long gown to know. Now I'm doing this very bubble bath kind of look. It actually even makes sense. Where they're being the short dress. I mentally I mentally like elongated it in my eyes and looking at. I'm like totally would not have worked. I Seriously Liana I. Can you agree with me? That this is example like the difference between her and rock him and like aiden when you have a sense of purpose with the balls. She like look at this picture. And tell me that she doesn't know how to place balls in such a way where they land perfectly on the garment when you want like the this shoulder should be higher and you want this waste to be narrower and you want this side it'd be bigger like and you. WanNa little show a little jingle here like everything about where the balls are placed is done so well and when the ball's needs to be bigger like on the shoulder. They're bigger when they need to be smaller around the waist. They're smaller everything about this. Just works from head to toe and like the way she did her hair. It's like Calgon. Take me away. This is just. She took US bitch. That's really was really was all right. Let's move on. Let's talk about. Let's talk about Britta My favorite second basketball live look to I. I don't even know my worst. But the fact that she said. This is the take on Kim Case Meg gala draws and it looks expensive. Brent looked cheap cheap cheap. Then there's nothing there's nothing worse seen in my eyes in drag race then going on the runway in something that looks goddamn sheep because even the Queen's with no money can come out there and make something look like it's absolutely fabulous garment where they come from money and they have money or they had money or their old money or whatever but this look terrible. I didn't like anything about it. And the fact that it looked so different boy she is just talk about Roy. Line on that personality. That is what she's doing and I think that's why she thought she was totally safe. Why she didn't even prepare ellipse because she thought she would stay but honey someone said she needed to use the filter for this look. This was a mess. I mean look look. Here's the thing it's fine. It looks okay. It's not offensive to me and I'm reading so condescending but she is a Queen Anne that okay. She is like she came in here like she owns the place. And it's for her to come out in this. This is a meet-and-greet outfit. This is what you wear to meet the Queens okay. This is not what you're wearing in the second. Look on Paul's drag rates on. Yeah it's it's the first. The first look was the only one that had kept my attention the belittle the Basque look. Yeah it definitely was more on theme in some of the other girls so I'll give her that but still it looks rather pedestrian and then a gesture. Nhl The the Corn Apple Pineapple. Whatever the fuck it was at the end was just like yeah. She is resting on her personality. But it's like girl. I don't even know why you would want to do that. Because the personality that you're being edited with just pick on. Zane every week so like just a bad thing all around you know like Oh my God. That's so funny. Yeah when your personality is pick on eight and I it's like maybe a problem and I think that's what's frustrating to is because I don't know maybe it's just because I have high expectations because she's well known in New York. She's a queen that Roy like. Oh my Gosh Britta is here. You know exactly so. I don't know I don't know what to make of it. You know who she reminds me of reminds me of vinegar strokes from the UK season because it was somebody who was like really well known big name but then when it came to actually performing the looks and it just it just it's not. They're not quite there. We talked about. This is like you. This is the Olympics drag. Not Everybody who is a fabulous drag? Queen is good at the stupid little challenges that they have on drag race. I'm looking at this last. Look right and it is literally the ugliest thing. I don't even know where she got those shoes from. They literally looked like biscuits. Okay I don't know not only that but I don't even think this color is particularly flattering to her particular color of skin. It just it is jarring to me. And the fact that the judges couldn't tell whether that color of yellow was a pineapple or corn should say something and for her to get defensive about it. Like bitch just take just own the criticism all right like I didn't even like her makeup. I in fact I thought that Herwig looks so cheap like I'm willing to give her credit for the first look because I felt like she got in her closet at home that she's like. Oh this is sporty looking so I'll wear it which I'm sure some of the other queens but it did not have any wow factor. There were no sequence. There were no. It was not juiced up. It looked very like you came on ru Paul's drag race with that people out of her mouth. You either of you know I look. I was at Honda Baseball but it was like hollowed out. It was like the skin of a baseball which I wasn't quite understanding. Why she did that but okay like she ate it and spit out at skin or like. She is a baseball and so she would. Rather I'd rather go with my fantasy. There was a condom. Let's just go with that okay. Okay let's go at that. That's funny yeah anyway. To make a long story short this queen absolutely deserved to be in the bottom two eight lip synching for their lives. And Yeah we'll get to the lifting. But I'm Kinda bummed that she's not out because I I would have loved for. It's been a big wake up call to the rest of the Queen's because I feel like they can still rest easy that she survived but if if Britain had went home during this episode. I feel like the rest of the Queen's would shaking in their boots I also don't get her obsession with the wearing the tissue boxes on her shoes like this is not the first time her pink look last week. She had the same thing where it was like. She had the shoe and then stuck a bunch of stuff to the shoe so look like she was a kid clumping around and her mom on shoes worst. Okay let's talk about Christo. Let's take a break to hear a word from our sponsors and we are back a mind. What did you think about crystal this? I loved crystals for look. I mean okay. I grew up like two blocks away from a bowling alley so I spent a lot of my time bowling. So maybe it's been a stodgy factor hitting me. But I loved that look with so retro would still so Glam and so fine crystal always has a lot of fun when she comes out on the running you can just tell the she's just like this is like their favorite her favorite part of the day and she's just having a good time it was like she had a ball. She rolled the ball. It was just I loved it was it was super can't be and I loved it. The second look Well maybe it's maybe it's basketball daughter own which is a little to me. I don't know I don't know it looked like it wasn't done like I feel like there was something that she was missing. It just wasn't villagers like missing that extra edge but she had a lot of fun energy which was great. And the third look was just like chucky cheese ballpit in a bad way okay. I hear your critiques. On the second look because it felt like she was trying to do something outside of her comfort zone which I one hundred percent applaud her for and happy that she did it but I do get their critique that something was off. I don't know exactly what but something was just not lake quite Perez Hilton e- enough for the look. Hard coral comparison Harris held after missing three days of sleep in like a couple of lines of cocaine. Okay like that was. That was not under Paris Hilton. Yeah what did you think about the third leg and I wasn't a big Fan. It just felt like it was a what was it the Carmen Miranda. Yeah where she just had a kind of a Mexican outfit that she wanted to show her heritage from and she's just like a bunch of shit on it. I mean that's kind of how it came off like I get. Did they make all of this stuff? She actually make the thing. That's around her shoulders. And all of that or they made they made one in to believe in the second one. They made one in three in the second wife brought. I think it may be the last one and the last one. Yeah they brought one in six. British didn't make that thing that she was wearing. But yeah this was a little ill-fitting points I don't know if you'd like. Take a closer look at it but I it's maybe needs to be like brought in just a little bit. I mean if you're gonNA wear a body like that needs to be at least at least on the waste anyway. I know that's address but like everybody sit around the bodice part needs to actually fit you and it doesn't the balls are somewhat okay placed again. This is the difference between her and people like you know Jada N. G. G. and people like this queen crystal because the ball seem a somewhat random with with both the color and the placement of them. There is some direction to the balls and like she. She only has them on one side of the outfits and so she's she's trying in that area but it does seem like it's totally working again. She seems like she's at the bottom of the class. I approach plot her for her makeup. But she's not long for this world. Let's be real. I don't know I okay. I think first of all I'm higher on the third look than the two of you are. I thought that this was kind of cute. I thought it fit with her. Sort of a herd of makeup. Styling Best of you. But that's the thing Liana Kinda cute. That's what you see down to local drag show okay. We're looking for the Queen's who came out and fucking wowed US okay. Those are the ones who came out and said this. Look at me okay. And this did not do that. That's I. Guess That's why I'm coming from. Yeah but that's how you felt. Here's what I will say was I. Well Oh my gosh. I can't wait to see more of this no I I did. I did like it. I thought that it was cool for her to take the Carmen Miranda inspiration to build her gown to go full. Chiquita and I think is one of the judges said and I liked it. I think she was safe. I don't think she necessarily deserve to be in the bottom because I actually really liked her bowler. Look I thought it was so perfectly pinup e and to come out and actually roll. The bowling ball was so cool. That was probably I thought so. Too mentioned the second outfit was a little off so i. I think this was fine. I don't think though that this was good. The Best Sir her hair for the allegations. Look the best that it's ever looked and it's purple hair but there's the hairline is great. I love everything about it. Also her makeup is still a lot. But it's it's coming down so I'm very happy with that. She's asking taking that. Come she she she would feel like she's wearing no makeup in this in this Picture but to me. She looks like she's still wearing tons of makeup. But I can tell it's less than what it was. And the lifts are not nearly as accentuated as they were like the joker. Absolutely okay just Brent. Let's talk about just Jan. I would do these. Judges have against James. I know right. I'm asking this question. Honestly like did they think Jin wasn't going to be very good and they cast her on the show as cannon fodder and now she's surprising them and she's going to have to really earn their like. I thought this was the week after the last couple of weeks where John has been knocking on the door knocking on the door that she was gonna make it and I am really shocked that the judges just called this safe. I'm going to work backwards. So the first the third look the elegance a look is probably the most high fashion of any of the outfits there on the runway. It is a weird sort of Elizabethan. Meets the future meets like alien or something like it's it's so cool with the way this sort of texture and color and light