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"sheriff steve rains" Discussed on Mornings With Gail - 1310 KFKA

Mornings With Gail - 1310 KFKA

04:16 min | 1 year ago

"sheriff steve rains" Discussed on Mornings With Gail - 1310 KFKA

"What gets us is crime sir because particularly during a time cova and well thanks to the legislature. Basically knocking the legs out from under law enforcement. Well yeah we've seen a crime on the rise i mean. How many times have we had that conversation with the likes of weld county. Sheriff steve rains or lamoure county. Sheriff justin smith or soon to be former a greeley police chief mark jones all decrying some of the legislation that has been put in place that bay basically instead of taking a bite. Out of crime enables crime to take a bite out of us exactly. Yeah growth migration and crime. I think goes along with both of those Would what i'm talking about. Not everybody coming in is evil. What i'm gonna. what are you saying everybody coming into. The state is criminal. Know what i'm saying is population grows law enforcement has to grow with. It has to keep up with it. And there is a movement now that and they need to derive or they need support. Yeah there's a movement now derived from politics it's rooted in politics to do the opposite cut back on law enforcement. Although some of the as as crime increases in states that have done that seems to be changing a little bit. Oh yeah funny. And a lot of those states That were on the fund. The police bandwagon have done about-face. Yeah and that's a good thing. It is definitely keith. Wineman none presidential well to in loveland. Now here's the deal. My guests is. You're looking forward to a long labor day weekend. At least i hope you are. I hope that you can get out and enjoy and put some of your worries in the rear view at least for a few days. But i would suggest you have some time. You might wanna think about those retirement years to which you might say we'll gail. I'm like decades away from retirement. Come on now. Well that means you are perfectly positioned to get that retirement plan not only made but put to work of four you because the longer you have that plan in place while the more likely you'll be able to tick off all those items on your retirement bucket list. Nowhere better to do just that. Get that plan in action than we keith. Wineman presidential wealth in loveland. And all we have to do is pick up the phone. Well two things give you a call and ask those questions. Because i know you got him quote one of my favorite movies the right stuff. Is that the deal. That's the deal that's the deal and you never change the no that's got but so the add a little bit to the deal and gail happy right. It goes to answers to questions and here is just a little bit more detail on the deal. That's exactly what you'll get what you won't get as a sales pitch and what you're likely to get is what i would do if i were you. So and how about that at nine. Seven zero seven seven six seventy five hundred level and office presidential wealth seven seven six seventy five hundred you name call over the long weekend. Question occurs in conversation with friends family. Get it on the voice mail. If you wanna call back give me your name and number. I'll give you a call back. And i will answer your question may or may not use Questions like that. On the air. Which i do all the time i get a lot of these and i absolutely love them. So your questions. you'll get answers. You will not get a sales pitch. What you will get is what i would do if i were you. Good deal keith. Whiteman presidential wealth loveline. Thanks so much. Seven forty five now northern colorado voice. One a three one thirteen ten. Kfi k. everything you need to know about northern colorado is unknown cone weekdays at nine northern colorado's voice..

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"sheriff steve rains" Discussed on NoCo Now ? 1310 KFKA

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08:32 min | 1 year ago

"sheriff steve rains" Discussed on NoCo Now ? 1310 KFKA

"The court seeing something like this well and that's the whole problem is We just don't know and especially if these things go to a jury trial With the anti-cop sentiment that seems to be Becoming more and more pervasive out there. You know cops aren't giving a lot of leeway and it's not necessarily what you knew what you should have known We just don't know and to be honest with you. Law enforcement is a tough gig. It's it's a it's not a. it's not an easy job it's a. It's a tough. It's a tough job each and every day we're faced with very challenging events and this just makes it that much harder. The job's not gonna make any Any law enforcement officer rich Unless there happened lesser lucky enough to win the lottery And then to take everything. They own input on on the line on virtually every call they would respond to It's just tough and you know again. We act. I think we when i say that. The sheriff's office law enforcement in in weld county in colorado. I think we tend to act with the best interest of the citizens in mind But you know sometimes you get it. Wrong cops are human. They make judgment errors Just like any other human being. But essentially they get the death penalty for this In their career and in their personal finances if they if they make a mistake and tell against them in court zero four by four. Vip guesses while kennedy. Sheriff steve rim. So let's go back and talk about house bill. Twenty one twelve fifty that you brought up a couple of big things here that i that i was interesting Now access to internal affair records What kind of an impact is that going to have an police agencies. Well so the fact that that's outlined in this bill is kind of strange because they passed the bill a couple of years ago that gave public access to internal affairs files already It does make officers You know their their history. Their mistakes are out there for the public to see and a little more accessible. So that's something that i've worn laughs from from the day that They get higher. You know your mistakes. We'll be open for inspection for all the see so Don't be an idiot. I don't do stupid things It does change the way in. Which again officers are going to interact or are they gonna take as many risks as they as they might have in the past probably not You hope hope not. I guess But that that particular provision in the bill. I think a good law enforcement officer doesn't doesn't sweat that so much What that does though is that. It provides an opportunity for us to Well provides an opportunity for an officer who may have been in trouble on one agency to maybe not end up in another So that that might actually be a good provisions in this bill talking with well. Sheriff steve rains the other. A couple of changes. Brady lists and bodycam footage. We talked about bodycam footage but First of all starts off with For somebody who who may not know what is a brady list. And what is this telling. Now that you've got to do with it so essentially at brady list of for your listeners is is someone's found to made a an untruthful statement if they've if they misrepresented something in a police report if they'd given misinformation On the stand if they if they basically told the truth and the course of their employment then that is something that has to be revealed in court to the defense saying hey. This person has a character flaw. That has been has been noted in their history and defense counsel needs to know that now that not only has to go to the local district attorney but also be reported to the post board for determinations of of whether or not that person can keep their post certification You know it's it's a much bigger step here Again how that plays out. I don't know we're gonna we're gonna do the best we can at working through tugging with the sheriff steve reams as well And i think that could be a little bit of an issue as well. You know not not a whole lot of clarity. You know in theory some of these. Don't sound like that that big of a thing right but it's the implementation implementing these that could be the issue. It's the judgment of the post board. You have to be very careful. That's overseen by the attorney general phill wiser. So you know what is considered You know what is considered. I guess one of those things that would take someone out of a law enforcement career at by the attorney general's office versus local law enforcement. The you know the hiring agency It just it creates too much authority in my mind to the post board We don't we don't tolerate people who tell untruths at the sheriff's office we terminate those folks anyways but You know i. I think that's something that should be left to the police. Chief the The sheriff to make those determinations not not an autonomous post board that's Let's put in charge by the governor. There is one point of this bill. I wanna make sure we get to and And and that's the removal of a county or a city to be able to indemnify their officers for that. I twenty five thousand dollars of of a settlement or of a a A finding against an officer so if a civil penalty is assessed against an officer under senate bill to seventeen the county the city. Whatever hiring agency could say. Well we'll cover that twenty five thousand dollars if the officers is found at fault house. Bill twelve fifty removes that ability so Again another chilling effect. And we'll probably see Another exodus of officers leaving the of colorado. When i was just going to bring that up as well you know i. It's not really appealing appealing job for a lot of people to to be in law enforcement the way that it is. What are you seeing this effect on on. Not hiring numbers and things like that and the number of people join police academies yes each and every day we've lost some really good folks on to go to other agencies and other states. We've lost some people that are just flat out walking away from the career. And when i say we. I'm talking about this sheriff's office. But i speak with a lot of the police chiefs and other sheriffs in the area and two person Most every agency is experiencing these same problems Weld county was in the unique situation. Because the commissioners had agreed to indemnify Who acted in good faith against civil penalty but that is no longer or something that they're even going to be given the opportunity to do so as much as i hate to say it. I'm i'm sure i'll lose more good officers that will walk away from the career and at this point know as much as i hate to say it i. I can't blame some of those folks especially if they're in the the you know the early parts of their careers and they can shift gears and go do something else. I'm assuming many of them probably will well and yeah like you said. It's it's hard to blame him with with this continuing on here and you can see the trajectory that we're headed unless something changes pretty crass typically one last part of this that i wanted to get to is the police radio encryption. That's gonna now also be accessed by media. This has been on bills that have been unsuccessful in thousand eighteen. Nineteen twenty twenty. Why is is. Now i mean. Is this just the democratic. Hold that we have down there. The state the state legislature or. What is going on with this. That wasn't even an original part of this bill and you're right. This has been a an effort by one particular lawmaker over the last three or four cycles. this got thrown in as an amendment and the way it reads if you encrypt all your channels. Then you basically have to give Access to the media to that encryption At the sheriff's office actually in any agency in weld county There's no agency that encrypts channels You might have one encrypted channel. I swat usage or whatever so this bill won't necessarily apply to law enforcement agencies in weld county but it most definitely will and in denver and aurora and the metro area where they have all of their radio channels encrypted to try to keep media from beating them to the calls for service that they're trying to respond to You know those that encryption is no longer a method that they can use to.

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"sheriff steve rains" Discussed on NoCo Now ? 1310 KFKA

NoCo Now ? 1310 KFKA

05:04 min | 1 year ago

"sheriff steve rains" Discussed on NoCo Now ? 1310 KFKA

"Cops aren't giving a lot of leeway and it's not necessarily what you knew what you should have known We just don't know and to be honest with you. Law enforcement of a tough gig. It's it's a. It's not a an easy job it's a. It's a tough. It's a tough job each and every day we're faced with very challenging events and this just makes it that much harder. The job's not gonna make any Any law enforcement officer rich Unless there happened lesser lucky enough to win the lottery And then to take everything. They own input on on the line on virtually every call they would respond to. It's just tough and you know again. We act. I think we when i say that. The sheriff's office law enforcement in in weld county in colorado. I think we tend to act with the best interest of the citizens in mind But you know sometimes you get it. Wrong cops are human. They make judgment errors Just like any other human being. But essentially they get the death penalty for this In their career and in their personal finances if they if they make a mistake and tell against them in court zero four by four. Vip guesses while kennedy. Sheriff steve rim. So let's go back and talk about house bill. Twenty one twelve fifty that you brought up a couple of big things here that i that i was interesting now. Access to internal affair records What kind of an impact is that going to have an police agencies. Well so the fact that that's outlined in this bill is is kind of strange because they passed the bill a couple of years ago that gave public access to internal affairs files already It does make officers You know their their history. Their mistakes are out there for the public to see and a little more accessible. So that's something that i've worn laughs from from the day that They get higher. You know your mistakes. We'll be open for inspection for all the see so Don't be an idiot. Don't do stupid things It does change the way in. Which again officers are going to interact or are they gonna take as many risks as they as they might have in the past probably not You hope hope not. I guess But that that particular provision in the bill. I think a good law enforcement officer doesn't doesn't sweat that so much What that does though is that. It provides an opportunity for us to Well provides an opportunity for an officer who may have been in trouble on one agency to maybe not end up in another So that that might actually be a good provisions in this bill talking with welcoming sheriff. Steve rains the other. A couple of changes. Brady lists and bodycam footage. We talked about bodycam footage but First of all starts off with For somebody who who may not know what is a brady list. And what is this telling. Now that you've got to do with it so essentially at brady list of for your listeners is is someone's found to made a an untruthful statement if they've if they misrepresented something in a police report if they'd given misinformation On the stand if they if they basically told the truth in the course of their employment then that is something that has to be revealed in court to the defense saying hey..

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"sheriff steve rains" Discussed on Mornings With Gail - 1310 KFKA

Mornings With Gail - 1310 KFKA

03:00 min | 1 year ago

"sheriff steve rains" Discussed on Mornings With Gail - 1310 KFKA

"Colorado democrats in late. April formerly introduced three widely anticipated. Gun control bills. Now the question is is this the right tack unfortunately sadly we see this it's almost like clockwork. After a mass shooting and that you have congressman on the federal level on down to the state level saying. We need to do something but will these bills particularly senate bill to fifty six. Will they have the desired impact in stopping mass shootings 707. Now thirteen ten. Kfi thirteen ten kfi. A. dot com northern colorado's voice mornings with gail from the auto collision specialist studios joined this morning by weld county. Sheriff steve rain share frames. Welcome back to the show again gale. So let's talk about this in the global sense i understand. It is a very sensitive topic. But am i wrong in that assessment that Well it's been said that those in congress are very good at one of two things doing absolutely nothing or overreacting. And i think we're seeing the trickle down effect when it comes to these gun control measures because it in the aggregate are they going to achieve their desired intent in stopping mass shootings. You know. I think you hit on a very good point You have legislators that feel like they have to do something and so they come up with these grandiose ideas that hey we're going to give Local governments the ability to regulate firearms With the idea that you know someone who's intent on on conducting a mass shooting is gonna care what the local gun law is. And i know that the concept but these legislators is that well if we just make it harder and harder and harder for people to get guns. It'll be harder and harder for the bad guys to get guns and you know i guess in theory that could be correct but that doesn't mean that someone who wants to commit a violent act isn't still going to figure out a way to do it but it does mean that the citizens who wants to protect themselves will not have that same means available to them when gun laws become so restrictive that you just can't carry on. I think you make a very good point. let's work through these three measures. That again were introduced in late. April starting with that senate bill to fifty six again. A measure that would allow local governments public higher education institutions special districts to an act gun control policies that are more stringent that what is written in state law. Yeah i think the the easiest way to explain. It is in the summary of the bill. It says the bill permits local government to.

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"sheriff steve rains" Discussed on Mornings With Gail - 1310 KFKA

Mornings With Gail - 1310 KFKA

03:25 min | 1 year ago

"sheriff steve rains" Discussed on Mornings With Gail - 1310 KFKA

"Saw that that play out yesterday and sadly we lost Boulder police officer. eric tally. Who performed heroics early. Who ran as you all do in lawn paceman do you ran toward the danger. Instead of meant as many of us would do away from it and his death hits the law enforcement community. I can't even imagine how hard it hits you. I know i was watching the procession as they were taking officer tally To the boulder coroner's office and the the procession of police cars emergency vehicles was just heart wrenching. Like i said it always brings up memories of You know past incidents that that we've been involved in you know. I always go back to the loss of deputy san brownlee when one of these since happens and You know it. It opens wounds for all of us. And and you watch and you know that the people that are there on scene or are struggling and all we can do pray that they get through this and continue to fight the good fight and just you know hope to the public understands. That law enforcement is out there doing a really tough job. In in a time where we've been demonized by many of the people at you know in our state legislature on a national level They turned the cops into the bad guys. But despite that Those same cops responded yesterday very heroically and one paid the ultimate sacrifice. Just talk breaking well. County sheriff steve rains a thank you so much for all that you and your colleagues and law enforcement. Do we certainly appreciate you now more today than perhaps ever thank you. Go well county. Sheriff steve rings seven fifty six now. Thirteen ten kfi k. While the whole sports story northern colorado the state in the country tune into the whole show weekdays noon to two and thirteen ten. kfi k. If you miss any portion of mornings with gail go to thirteen ten k. Dot com to download the podcast today..

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"sheriff steve rains" Discussed on Mornings With Gail - 1310 KFKA

Mornings With Gail - 1310 KFKA

04:57 min | 1 year ago

"sheriff steve rains" Discussed on Mornings With Gail - 1310 KFKA

"Colorado and the weld county sheriff's office have indeed resolved a federal lawsuit. Conserving the covid. Nineteen pandemic and measures to protect jail inmates. But funny when you realize that well according to weld. Sheriff steve reams. The settlement actually covers things as he has long told us that they were already doing before the lawsuit even got underway. Imagine that seven hundred six. Now thirteen ten. Kfi a thirteen ten k. f. k. a. dot com northern colorado's voice mornings with gail from the auto collision specialists studios joined this morning by well county. Sheriff steve rain share freeman. Welcome back to the show thanksgiving's around me again. So was this much ado about nothing. Well i you know. I think you can look at the lawsuit and you know if you want to read it for for what it's worth you know you can make whatever whatever you want to out of it but the true intent of this lawsuit was to try to send a message to me and the sheriff around the state That you know the aclu basically wanted us to release inmates. And i was as. You'll probably remember very vocal that that was not the role of the sheriff. I try to advocate for the release of inmates and So this lawsuit started and You know it. It's been several months in the works now and and ultimately we've gotten to the point where we're agreeing to continue to do mostly everything we were doing when this lawsuit started right. So that's why i say again. I'm not trying to be flipped. Or to diminish the import of this lawsuit and the response to it in any way shape or form but to me. I tend to take things down to the simplest common denominator and it seems like a whole lot of sound and fury targeting u Signifying nothing because as you said these things were already in place but you get to the real end game and that was they wanted you to release prisoners. That's correct in fact The only thing that's on the list The that we're required to do that. We weren't necessarily doing as far as screening inmates and trying to take precautions for inmates. As we have to specifically identify a certain class of inmates and say these folks are medically vulnerable and take the same precautions. We were using on every inmate and now only apply to these. Folks that are medically vulnerable You know from the start of the pandemic and in fact. We had conversations as far back as february twenty seventh of this year with my jail staff..

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"sheriff steve rains" Discussed on Mornings With Gail - 1310 KFKA

Mornings With Gail - 1310 KFKA

05:52 min | 2 years ago

"sheriff steve rains" Discussed on Mornings With Gail - 1310 KFKA

"Well if you've been working from home you know that sometimes you have a few technical glitches to contend with and such is the case but joined once again by Weld County. Sheriff Steve Rain share frames. Are you back with us? I'm sorry about that. No worries it happens. You know. It's just the new normal that we all have to contend with Cobra. It's always something speaking of it's always a something We were talking about this. Aclu potential witness in the case against You wanting for a parole violation in this assault case This man from Windsor Still on the run but it goes to the question and it's it's a matter of public safety as we are seeing in mates prisoners across the country being released early because concerns at least. That's the cover story concerns about Covid nineteen and you just have to wonder how many innocent people are going to be victimized as a result of this. I don't know that answer off the top of my head. Obviously if we did we You know we. We wouldn't be in the business of law enforcement because you wouldn't need us anymore but You know unfortunately when all this started and Basal you and many other organizations started pounding for inmates to be released from custody. I mean it kind of flies in the face of I think what most people view is logical And you're seeing the effects of some of that now With this in May from my jail. Christopher Vercelli obvious the advocate for his release but he got out early and You know there's been a very tragic incident. That's that's spurt from that where A young lady was fortunate not to be killed but she was very badly injured. And then you had the case DOWN IN DENVER WITH CORNELIUS. Haney that That took the life of a of a young twenty one year old woman and Who knows what other cases we're seeing around the state. I mean it's kind of as they rise to to the attention of the media that we learn them so I I don't think this can be a good thing In the long term. And you know as we've learned more and more about covid nineteen we start to realize that You know maybe the reaction that we took early on is not necessarily the most appropriate one on any number of levels some twenty four now. Thirteen ten K of k thirteen ten. Kfi A dot com changing years. Before I let you go this morning but certainly do appreciate your time. It was a come kind of a double whammy for you with this Aclu court case. And then the Denver District Court judge dismissing that lawsuit on the Colorado Red Flag Gun Law. work through that and The question is Do you intend along with legislators to take another swipe at it well the rocky mountain gun owners had filed a lawsuit saying that The law The reds like law was passed properly and unfortunately judge disagreed and said it was still a constitutional law just because it was passed. Incorrectly doesn't mean that it makes it unconstitutional. So I don't know exactly where that goes. I'm sure that The Rocky Mountain gun owners consider an appeal but the Red Flag Wa in general is one of those things that once? It's on the books. It's very hard to undo until someone can get court standing or standing in the courts To take this thing as far as it needs to go for. What do you need to get standing in the court? Well essentially someone has to be damaged by it or harmed by in order to have standing You know getting judge's interpretation of what harm me. This is difficult because you just have to file and see if the judge Basically agrees with you As you know I've been red flagged or at least attempted to be like three times. I would give me enough standing to take this into the federal court system or not but we're GONNA CONTINUE. Continue to look at every awesome and the first chance we get to take one of these things Forward then obviously. We'll do that but I don't WanNa do that at the expense of someone's rights being violated either so now you had mentioned that the ACLU has not that down any. What do they want from the Weld County jail now or they continue to demand and They want special reports generated. They want us to basically report to them. on the status of each and every inmate The deemed medically vulnerable. They want us to know how they WANNA know how we're treating them the way they're being housed. If there's any empty cells in my jail and it's it's overly burdensome they're constantly asking for information they're constantly You know basically trying to defacto run the jail and you know I have. I have a huge operation and just catering today C. L. U. Is Not something that that you know my staff or I have time for. So we're we're doing the best. We can work through the process that they continue to push And we're doing the best. We can to protect every inmate and officer inside the jail But that's for whatever reason. Aclu provides no No trust in the fact that that's exactly what we're doing so We'll continue to fight this battle out for a while and see how it goes loud county. Sheriff Steve Reams. Thank you as always for your time. You Bet me on again. Go seven twenty eight now thirteen ten. Kfi A thirteen ten KFI K. A. dot com mornings..

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"sheriff steve rains" Discussed on Mornings With Gail - 1310 KFKA

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13:07 min | 2 years ago

"sheriff steve rains" Discussed on Mornings With Gail - 1310 KFKA

"Kale. Fueled BY GREAT WESTERN PETROLEUM. Only thirteen ten. Kfi WELL AS THE STATE CONTINUES SLOW. Return this very judicious return to whatever the new normal going to look like. We had a state park camping resuming yesterday. But those decisions on reopening restaurants are going to come in late May Colorado Eagles season has been cancelled and alarm or county is set to modify. Its mask rules as more questions are swirling about really the wisdom of wearing a mask because just take a gander around you as you get out and about. It should going into stores or wherever you may be and those mask. Orders are in effect. Just watch what people do. They're putting their hands on their faces more than they usually do six. Oh seven thirteen ten. Kfi A thirteen ten K. dot com or so gail live local. Fueled a by great western petroleum this as a judge rules against Weld County. Sheriff Steve Rains in the. Aclu'S CORONA VIRUS. Jail dispute was a personal. Is this a political vendetta against a Weld County? Sheriff that has been very outspoken. On any number of issues you decide cuyler meade riding in the trip. A federal judge has ruled that Weld County jails handling of cove nineteen has violated inmates Constitutional Rights specifically the Eighth Amendment Weld County. Sheriff Steve Rims was the defendant in a class action lawsuit and District Court brought by the American Civil Liberties Union of Colorado on behalf of several inmates plaintiffs who consider themselves to be in the high risk how to door category for the pandemic which I actually started to appear inside of the jail. In mid March now reams was ordered by judge. Philip Bremmer to take several steps including instituting new policies inside the jail to curtail the spread of the virus and compile a list of medically vulnerable inmates currently held at the jail. Here's the question for you this morning. Nine seven three five three thousand ten eight seven seven three five three thirteen ten dropped me attacks on our thirteen ten. Kfi Text Line at three one. Nine nine six. Why was the weld? County jail specifically singled out when the spread of covert nineteen throughout jail. Populations is pretty rife not only in jails prisons Colorado deed across the country. I really like to have an answer to that quick question because it seems to me. There's a lot more in play here in court. Reams had disputed claims that the jail was mishandling the virus claiming several measures that have been put in place including screenings visitor limitation and instituting a policy of so called family units. This this is where by inmates spent time exclusively within their own small groups. Here's the thing with this novel Corona virus even the public health officials. You had Anthony Fauci yesterday testifying remotely of course to the Senate and things that little chippy between Anthony Fauci and Senator Rand Paul will get to that in. Just a few but the problem with this novel. Corona virus is the fact that it is indeed novel and we have had to adapt and the just and advanced to the best of our ability. Not only in our own lives but indeed in institutions look at how it is ravaged assisted living facilities and nursing homes yes. Prisons are hotspot to anywhere. New York City was ground zero for the spread or yeah new. York City and the surrounding areas was ground zero for the number of Kobe nineteen cases and the mortality associated with them. The death rate associated with them veterans homes. Were hit very hard as well. We're not even talking about that where we are but the rest of the nation. It seems to me that attention needs to be paid to those facilities as well but you look at the number prisons in jails across the country that have been stricken with cases of covert nineteen and of course covert nineteen has no socio economic preference whatsoever. It's not only the prison population by. It's the people that work there. The deputies the people who are preparing the food the list goes on and on I just for the life of me can't understand as everyone is trying to adjust and adapt to a new way of living. A new way of doing things haven't even talked about the food processing plants. But you also know in Weld County alone swift and the meat packing plant at last check. There were what two hundred eighty cases there? We're all learning together how to best cope with the spread of a very very contagious virus. So again ask the question. Why was sheriff? Steve Brings singled out when this is happening. Far and wide across the state indeed across the country. Bremmer found that quote reams has failed to take adequate measures to protect members of the plaintiff class from Colbert. Nineteen given that. They face the risk of serious illness or death from the virus. Accordingly plaintiffs conditions of confinement violate the eighth amendment to the Constitution and plaintiffs are entitled to a limited preliminary injunction to ameliorate these conditions. Okay Reader's Digest version the eighth amendment it prohibits excessive bail excessive fines and cruel and unusual punishment. This has been interpreted by. The courts brimmer noted in his ruling to mean that a prison officials deliberate indifference. And that was the accusation levered Levied Against Weld County. Sheriff Steve Rims. This deliberate indifference to a substantial risk of serious harm to an inmate. Violates the Eighth Amendment's Bremmer went on to cite farmer? V Brennan Hundred Ninety four and helping the mckennie nineteen ninety-three. He also noted precedent in his ruling from Shaney the Winnebago County Department of Social Services. This was a one thousand nine hundred ninety nine case that the eighth amendment quoting from that particular case requires that inmates be furnished with the basic human needs one of it which is reasonable safety. Well it appears to me. That sheriff rains was attempting to do. Just that. By the time of the hearing said Bremmer Reams had taken several steps to reduce. He actually admitted it. To reduce the risk that inmates will contract cove nineteen in jail acknowledging the jails isolation and quarantine procedures for positively tested inmates quarantine procedure for new inmates. Entering the jail the family unit's procedure and the locking down of the jail for twenty three hour at a time to are working with a facility that by its very nature a. Let's say an intended for comfort and I don't mean to sound cruel whatsoever but unfortunately and this is what we're dealing with in the meat packing industry as well. These institutions are built for a specific purpose. Unfortunately enter code nine thousand nine hundred highly contagious easily spread novel corona virus and everybody scrambling everybody's doing the best. They can in order to stop the spread of Corona virus as was admitted by the judge in this case rimmer went on to say. Rene's has also provided inmates with mass and cleaning supplies. What seems to me that sometimes your options are limited. Indeed this would be the case but to say that. He exhibited extreme indifference to the safety of the jail population. It's ludicrous and it's a big butts brimmer also found. The record indicates that reams has not instituted any specific precautions to protect medically vulnerable inmates. These inmates older individuals and those with certain underlying health conditions have an elevated risk of serious illness or death should they contract covert nineteen. Rene's testified he went on to sage Brimmer at the preliminary injunction hearing that he is aware that covert Nineteen unto these individuals despite continued knowing that elevated risks reams has not ordered the jail's medical staff to identify. Those inmates who are medically vulnerable to in nineteen as a result. Reams not aware of how. Many inmates within the jail are medically vulnerable. And he doesn't know where those inmates are among other findings of error on the part of the jail. This and a thirty nine page ruling. Bremmer also noted that the family groups concept is not clearly or consistently implemented in an era of hovis nineteen. You tell me what is clear and consistent as we continue to learn more about this corona virus each and every day and each and every day all of the all of the knowledge everything we know about this virus. Don't wear a mask wear a mask. Don't wear gloves wear gloves. How does it spread? You can catch it through your eyeballs and rubbing. Your eyes won't make it go away right. We're all confused. Were all trying to learn. And it seems to me that within the restrictions that he face in this jail share frames did take cautionary steps in order to protect his inmates. So are we gonNA see a slew of these lawsuits across the country? I mean is this. Just the tip of the iceberg. Seven three five three thirteen ten eight seven seven three five three thirteen ten so brimmer saying that the family groups concept not clearly or consistently implemented this and with talked with sheriff rooms about this several times this as he made it abundantly clear that he set up within the jail. This family group of concept in. It's a family group right. They didn't fraternize with others. Outside of their cell group seems to me. He was trying to the best of his ability to take the appropriate steps in terms of isolation and quarantine. What am I missing? Here you tell me nine. Seven three five three thirteen ten. Let's see orders. The Kurt The orders of the court where technically sevenfold but a number of those orders were procedural to main actions. As Steve Reams was ordered to take were as follows. Honor before may eighteenth to five PM. Chevron's was ordered to compile a list of medically vulnerable inmates held at the Weld County jail. Who have one or more of the following conditions and again it's all of the underlying conditions Being Sixty five years of age and older having.

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"sheriff steve rains" Discussed on Mornings With Gail - 1310 KFKA

Mornings With Gail - 1310 KFKA

06:07 min | 2 years ago

"sheriff steve rains" Discussed on Mornings With Gail - 1310 KFKA

"Well indeed a C. L. Colorado thought they dropped proverbial bomb on Weld County. Sheriff Steve Reams. And yesterday he was more than happy to return the favor turning. Aclu Colorado's hit into little more than a Scud. Seventy eight now thirteen ten. Kfi A thirteen ten K. F. A. Dot com mornings with Gail live local fueled by great western petroleum. This as court documents filed yesterday morning clearly. Show that the Weld County. Sheriff's office was weeks ahead of the curve in its preparation for a possible Cova. Nineteen outbreak in the Weld County. Jail joined this morning by Weld County. Sheriff Steve Reams share frames. Welcome back to the. Show me out again. Gail you bet. I certainly appreciate your taking the time. So this was a twenty eight. Page response Titled the Declaration of Sheriff. Stephen Rene's filed Monday morning in the. Us District Court of Colorado This in response to that lawsuit Liberal levied by the American Civil Liberties Union of Colorado. Uh take us through it if you can sure. That's actually one of two documents that were sent in yesterday. There's another forty page filing With all the legal the legal arguments for why the ACL's ACLU's lawsuit Basically fall short but in essence they sell you They sound seven different inmates inside of my jail to represent as plaintiffs and they proceeded to Levy lawsuit against me saying that. I was violating the eighth and fourteenth amendments of these individuals by allegedly subjecting them to cruel and unusual punishment because I was keeping them confined in jail where they could be infected with Corona Virus. Because the because of the inability to social distance by more than six feet between every inmate. I mean that's that's summarizing their argument and I think anybody who just heard that goes to jail. Of course you can't social distance in a jail So our response is basically to show all the things that we've done in preparation for and in preventative measures of Corona virus and We find out about eighty four things at the time. We're still making changes in jail and trying to react as best we can to the thing that none of us really knew how to deal with But to this point I mean the the seven plaintiffs against me At this time none of them have tested positive for kronor up the Koran virus showing symptoms in fact. Two of them aren't even in my jail anymore. So you know I. I don't know what else we can do. as a jail we prepare just like the rest of the nation and unfortunately there were some people in my jail. They got sick We provided medical care to those folks and we've treated them accordingly. We've we've taken to the hospital When he needed treatment but my employees were also Impacted BY CORONA virus. So it's it's not like this is a a a virus that discriminates between you know. Good people bad people. Whenever you want to word it I you. You can go to the grocery store and catch corona virus so You know there's I it's just one of those things that once it gets in jail you know it's it's Very difficult to stop. But we've managed to To kind of quarantine every body away from each other and hopefully we've stopped the spread of the of the virus but in in the light of all this You know the ACLU finds an opportunity to file a lawsuit. Exactly was in your estimation your opinion. Was this politically motivated. You know. I don't know what their true motivations were but you know. I'm obviously an outspoken critic of Of what happens the master while there's You know I haven't always been pleased with what we're seeing come out of our legislature or some of the steps that are governors taken and I was pretty I was pretty upset when I saw the The the State Department of Corrections was using corona virus as an excuse to release prisoners. And I just think that that's the wrong thing to do. That's not what's in You know in the interest of public safety. That's not what what a sheriff should be. Doing is advocating for the release of inmates. If we can safely hold them within the walls of our jails and so that was the stance I took and I I. I'm certain that's what drew attention from. Aclu all right so you made these filings. So where does it go from here Well so we filed a timely response. nine o'clock yesterday morning and now the ACLU basically has until about five o'clock this afternoon to To respond yet again to the judge And basically explain why they still have standing for lawsuit You know this is kind of uncharted territory. Because it's not too often that Temporary restraining order attempt at a temporary restraining order an injunction is filed against the sheriff ordering them to release prisoners So we don't really know where to go after five o'clock You know I'm hoping that the judge dismisses the case and gives a summary Judgment and about our business but who knows You know there's. There's still some some work to be done here. But in the meantime we're going to continue to run the jail and we're gonNA continue to try to take care of everybody in there and do the best. We can in a time where none of us really know what the the absolute best method is for preventing the spread of a virus that none of us can predict or see absolutely well said closing in on seven fourteen. Now Thirteen ten. Kfi Thirteen ten KFI K. A. dot com mornings a gale fueled by great western. Petroleum joined by Weld County. Sheriff Steve Rains. I WanNa go back to your comment about the inmates of being released early..

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"sheriff steve rains" Discussed on Mornings With Gail - 1310 KFKA

Mornings With Gail - 1310 KFKA

15:03 min | 2 years ago

"sheriff steve rains" Discussed on Mornings With Gail - 1310 KFKA

"This is according to a statement released just yesterday by the Nursing Home Fifteen surviving residents have also tested positive for the novel. Corona Virus Centennial Healthcare Center said. Fourteen of them are isolated at the facility. One is in. The hospital. Joined this morning by thirteen ten. Kfi News Director Troy Coverdale on Troy. I wish the news was not as grim. Yeah exactly and one of the things that you and I have talked about since well the last couple of weeks I should say about has been wire. The numbers so high in Weld County in terms of cases and in terms of deaths. Well we now know a good reason. Why the number of deaths are so high in Weld County as those devs? Yes that were announced yesterday. in regards to centennial. Make up a third of the deaths in Weld county to date from Corona virus and what. What an unbelievably sad situation. But it also speaks to Just how managing this as Ben. So tough for Pretty much everyone but especially senior centers as they try to deal with. What in effect was a sneak attack. On what what preparation could they have done? That would have prevented this. And I think that that's going to be question going forward that we're going to have to learn from but I don't know that they that there was a way that it could have been prevented. And that's the sad part of it given what we knew at the time right. And it's just I mean in so many ways. We are in such uncharted territory. And it seems as though every day with there's another Ah Tentacle of Cova. Nineteen reaching out into institutions and businesses. And well just about every area of our life impacting us and it's interesting because it seems to me the first outbreak in the United States it emanated from a facility in Washington state came from a nursing home in Washington state. Right and the and the numbers just Just speak to that as well and we have talked. Yeah they they are. They are but Y- as we talk about who the most vulnerable are in the Society for this virus. You know we. We've learned very quickly that it is the elderly and at the at the top level of that and the incident in Washington. And now what? We've seen at centennial in Greeley. Speak to that very much and when you're trying to deal with something that is a pandemic and in the case of the corona virus the virus that you've never dealt with In terms of trying to defeat you have no therapy for at this point. You have definitely no Way of being able to vaccinate against it at this point you know. As a place like centennial. Which at midst all of the healthcare facilities that are corporately. Owned Centennial's individually. It's a it's a individual center so that makes it even more More evident that you know there was there was not a good way. I think for them to understand. Even what was coming. Well unfortunately it was there as the invisible enemy that it is before they even realize that now. According to this piece I had pulled out of nine news. They said they are restricting. Visitation per federal guide guidelines and. They're screening all outside medical profession professionals who enter. But unfortunately it's already there. Yeah I hate to say it this way but the damage is done and and and that's the hard part of this especially for the families who have lost fourteen people when you figure it in and and not the way that That they would like to known that their family members lent But such as you know the nature of A pandemic is the nature of heavy illness. Like this essentially and you know the Mother Nature decides to remind us every once in a while but she still has the power to be destructive in ways other than what we think of immediately like weather and This is this is just amazing to watch even for someone who is a history buff as I am right. It's heartbreaking absolutely heartbreaking and I can't help but compare and contrast to our conversation yesterday this has the Aclu is going after while county. Sheriff Steve Rain saying that he's not doing enough in the Weld County jail To protect those incarcerated of course those portions own deputies as well but primarily. It's those incarcerated. They're not enforcing social distancing. We got into that entire conversation and we'll just let that percolate for the time being but it begs the question. What are assisted living facilities nursing homes doing and Who find themselves in that similar situation in that? How you affect social distancing in those facilities. How do you Separate elderly many of them with underlying medical conditions. How do you keep them apart from one another and the whole handwashing regimen and it's just so frustrating it speaks to the way the in many ways we live our lives here in the US especially and that means in some cases we are tightly packed together and it's not just jails it's not just senior centers? Think about just what. Your average day at a hospital is just the hospital. You took right out of my mouth. Troy. That's exactly what I was thinking it. It's A. It's a huge fight to try to have to put together that distancing it is not how any of these facilities were designed. None of them were set up to allow for six feet worth of space for every person in the in those facilities. No those were designed to be able to maximize as many people as possible that they could get into a small area and they get the virus is taking full advantage of that and being able to replicate that because of what we as humans have elected to do in terms of trying to keep people together more so than apart well and I just saw this flash on the screen. That New York's Cova nineteen cases top every nation in the world. And I can see a connection to the conversation that we're having because we're talking about facilities institutions that are Created in order to house certain segments of the population. And they're right on top of each other look at New York City. You talk about urban planning there. I wonder if urban planners are going to take a look at the density of populations. Because that's where we're seeing the most damage. It's always funny to hear people complain about how spread out communities are in say Dallas Denver. And you know and and complain about boy. Look at all that sprawl. Maybe the sprawls the better thing right make a very good point so it just and Monica I for a walk. The other day commenting on how tightly packed. Some of the houses are here in our neighborhood. You know I grew up on twenty acres Monica's family as always had a large lawn. The end the two homes that they have had. And you know you get used to that is it's a much different setup especially in our cities than what you see a ghetto and and it does make you think for a moment but yet you you understand why people talk about sprawl and why it's concerning to but what we've done is in some ways set ourselves up for the spread of a virus once again a pandemic situation well again wish. The news was better. Hey before I let you go this morning. I don't mean to spring this on you but we were talking about this yesterday. Just wanted to get your take on this as a over thirty J. B. S. employees have tested positive for cove nineteen. And of. Course there's been a lot of consternation about that environment as well as an employee's were saying we don't want to work in that confined spaces and initially J. B. S. Was saying no. We've we've got this under control and You know we're doing everything. We can to ensure a safe workplace for our employees but more than thirty employees testing positive. That's dumped double the number of cases that JEB SWIFT USA CEO Andrey Negar. Yeah Said had been found as recently as Tuesday morning. The cases are doubling Yup. It's it's Max of Well let's be honest. Cases are doubling. That's that's kind of again where this began in terms of how quickly it could spread. What it means is that you've got again a group of people that Are highly highly connected in terms of what they're doing on a day-to-day basis. I think the unfortunate part of this comes down to in the case of J. D. S. How do you manage the situation yet? Still be able to meet The desire for the demand beef pork exactly the demand. They've already shut one plant down. And so you're you're adding to the system and we've seen already what has gone on in terms of pressure to our supply chain Through things that are taking place. Does that make it right? That they haven't shut down the plant to to deal with the virus and it's spread. I know it doesn't make it right but there again What is the decision to make? And how do you go about making that decision Because there there's an awful lot to be discussed on that level As you deal with Death deal with this pandemic. Yeah I it it again. That's a case where there is no master guide for anybody in how to work around this situation now once again we find ourselves in. Well it's a whole new world these days as a result of Code Kgo. Lutely thirteen ten. Kfi News Director. Thanks much as always for just to keeping US abreast of everything. That's going on and keeping US UP TO SPEED. Certainly do appreciate it be well. Happy Easter have yourself a great weekend you too and again happy Easter to all of our listeners as well seven nineteen now thirteen ten k. f. k. the whole sports story in northern. Colorado the state in the country tune into the whole show weekdays noon to two and thirteen ten. Kfi K the latest on covert nineteen local news and sports. Were here with you thirteen ten. Kfi In thirteen ten KFI DOT com. Get back to this Situation in Greeley thought a little bit about it with our own troy. Coverdale thirteen ten. Kfi News director pulled this out of the Greeley Tribune piece by Tyler me because unfortunately we didn't have the time this morning with Troy to cover this in its entirety. But want to get your take on this situation as well because once again we're talking about the tentacles of Cova nineteen I mean. It has hydra alike ramifications in every aspect of our lives because this outbreak and it is an outbreak. You've got over Thirty J. B. S. employees who have tested positive for covert nineteen. You've got the health department Mark Wallace quoted in the story. Dr Mark Wallace Executive Director of the Weld County Department of Public Health and Environment Investing J. B. S. But what is the solution to this? It just all boggles the mind. Because now we're going to the food. Supply Rights Tyler. Meade Weld County's health department in a statement Thursday said that the department which acknowledges it is investigating The J. J. B. S. beef plant in Greeley as aware of more than thirty J. B. S. employees who have tested positive for cove nineteen department is also concerned about workers being at work while sick your member thirty percent. If not more of us are the so called silent carriers we may be a symptomatic. Maybe we have a runny nose or a cough and we attributed to US seasonal allergies or cold or flu but indeed could be carrying the virus now more than thirty is at least double the number of cases that J B s swift had said had been found. As recently as Tuesday morning. The statement from the Health Department read the Health Department continues to investigate the working conditions at J B S as well as provide health guidance on preventive preventative measures. The company should apply at their facility. Again what is the answer here?.

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"sheriff steve rains" Discussed on WHAS 840 AM

WHAS 840 AM

13:36 min | 3 years ago

"sheriff steve rains" Discussed on WHAS 840 AM

"Newsradio eight forty W. H A SIM, Leland Conway. He is the greenest congressman. In all of Washington DC. He powers his entire four thousand square foot house. With solar panels, and a diesel generator. And he drives a tesla. He's currently parked somewhere in West Virginia with his tesla plugged into the wall where he's stuck for an hour. Take me five minutes to refill my fossil fuel truck, but we'll give it over to him. Congressman Thomas Massie, what up dude? How are you? By the way, my backup generator hasn't come on in, like four months. So are you serious? We've been one hundred percent solar. And by the way, I got this far I'm about a third of the way to Washington C on. I would I wanna see another congressperson get this into their trip with nothing but solar power now in all fairness, I'm switching to call right now. I'm charging with coal here in West Virginia. Right. Okay. So the way you did that is you charged your car at your house, which is powered by a tesla power wall that you built yourself from arrest erect Tasse. So you, you powered it off that off the grid. So you got a third of the way to DC and then had to stop and plug into the coal fire power grid to charge your car to get the rest of the way there. That is right. That is correct. Where in West Virginia? Can you charge an electric vehicle? Probably about eight or nine charters in West Virginia. Now you can supercharge in Charleston. I actually drove past the first charger, and I'm south of Charleston, about sixty miles closer to Backley. There's a super charger down here and then I'll I can stop in Lexington Virginia or Staunton, Virginia. They're superchargers and their proprietary, tesla superchargers by way, you've got one. It's close to solving university sweet awesome. And so you, you, you are the only congressman that I know of that is as green as you are. I I it's tough being the greenest congressman. I mean, John Kerry doesn't like it, but you know too bad. I think he would like that title. All right. A couple of things I wanted to talk. I wanted to talk to you mainly about red flag laws. But I wanted to ask you is I know you're I know you're friends with Justin Amash, and I've got a lot of respect for him. And you know you guys are both principled guys. But he is saying that the president does needs to be impeached. You agree with your friend on that issue or no? Well, let me start out with saying he is a friend and I have a lot of respect for him. But I do not agree with him on this issue. In fact, I'm about one hundred eighty degrees diametrically opposed from him on this, because I believe, it's, it's the folks, like, told me in Brennan and Clapper the need to be indicted, that need to be brought in front of the court. I think they've abused the fights courts Comey admitted to leaking information to try and get this whole investigation started by the way, the whole thing is based on a. And so I'm, I'm one hundred and eighty degrees apart from Justin on this one. We'll just last night. Former congressman, Trey Goudy, who used to sit on the committee that investigated this stuff said that there's actually transcripts of the, I guess the attempts to spy on popadopoulos that skull paid him from any wrongdoing. And that apparently the FBI hid that information from the judges when they applied for a Faisal warrant. So I think you're right. I think when you if you really want to get to the bottom of this, which I'm sure that's what a mosh is wanting to do is to sort of nip a potential constitutional crisis in the in the bud. But you've got to go all the way back to the beginning of in. We're this rotten tree grew from and this rotten tree grew from the Obama administration and Hillary Clinton colluding with apparently the Steele, dossier contributor, who worked with Russian? So that's all got to be uncovered and punished before we talk about anything further. Right. You had the FBI in the DOJ working with Hillary Clinton's. Offer research folks to cook this whole thing up using actors. Okay. In any way you went, call at wiretapping spying. Pressed up against with an informant fine. To spy on Trump's campaign. Russian infiltration. Oh him. They were worried about it. Right. Yeah. And they, they gave that courtesy to people like Dianne Feinstein who had a Chinese spy as her driver for years, they gave the courtesy of his in. Hey, we, we, we think you've been infiltrated here and they didn't do that for a presidential candidate, which is kind of scary with the real reason I wanted to bring you on with red flag laws. They're passing in states across the country. I think Virginia just past one which you're about to pass through on your way to DC Maryland has one Colorado just past one. There are other states around the country that have been passing these laws. Why? Because the idea is that we're gonna if somebody thinks that you are kind of a little bit off your rocker or your dangerous to yourself or others. They can call police and say, hey, this guy's going to be taken away. The red flaw flag wall wall works in such a way they can take your guns away. And then you would get a chance to judicata it in court. Why are these laws bad because we definitely don't want crazy people with guns in their hands. Okay. First of all. Yeah, there are fifteen or sixteen states have passed as one, I recently sat down with sheriff Steve rain. He's a sheriff in Colorado, who refused, it absolutely refuses to force any of the because he said his people say, okay, not just his deputy the equal. He's trying to protect our sake because of these laws, not mention the end constitutionality of them. All right, if we're trying. If you're worried about somebody Leland maybe mentally unstable. Okay. Their books and there, there's a long, Kentucky to where if you reach a standard of proof, and a health professional agreed. You can commit somebody even against their will for three days in a mental facility. Okay. The absolute opposite of that. Offered to person that you're concerned about either danger to themselves or others. This. Sure we'd have to go in. Hey guys. Have an exhaustive list of all the guys, they're going to take some of the guns and they're gonna leave, and they're gonna leave this person. You've been a bad mental condition. Without anyhow, that's ridiculous. That's what the red flag walls prescribed now. In a bad situation. You think they're going to be less kated now that somebody and done a, a no not grade on their house. Refuses to do not grades as well. Right. And, and could potentially could potentially still have a gun in their house since, as you pointed out that we don't have a comprehensive list of all the guns people own could potentially still have a gun in their house. Now they're agitated now, they think the whole world's against them, and they go well what the hell's the difference, it's almost like you're, you're making a bad situation worse. If, if that's the case, my concern is about politics where, you know, you have a sheriff in a county or something that decides they don't like the politics of somebody who's coming against them, or maybe trying to recall him or maybe trying to do something that they don't like. And they could use something like this as a way of persecuting, those people. I mean, this is not just by the share in Colorado. Now, anybody who has ever shared it domicile? You don't even have to be related or married or anything, anybody who's ever shared a domicile with somebody is eligible to turn them in to have the guns confiscated anybody that's related to them within a certain distance. Anybody police agree with them? Don't have to have code Musavat just police says, you know what? Share your concern. Let's go get their gun. You mentioned window deputy walking out the person that could shoot them in the back, right? The person. And then there's a crash the burden of proof. What is the standard? The standard is more likely than not. Okay. That sounds good. Not. Not that the person will do something. The not that their risk. Heck. Kind of standard. Is that right? So you think these laws are unconstitutional, and we'll get overturned when when challenged in the supreme court. I would hope so I think the constitutional I can't tell you what supreme court will, I'm worried yet. The president has said he's in favor of taking the gun Spurs, that's a concern to me now, right? The details. I'm not sure what specific version. He's talking about. But version of a red flag while I have seen is unconstitutional. It's bad. And it makes people let's say and don't take my word for it. Listen to share in. Over half the sheriffs in Colorado agree with thing that it's unconstitutional and a bad idea now he's the only one who's taking a pledge that he willing to go to jail, before he will enforce wanted these right? Yeah. But what about keeping guns out of the hands of people really are a risk? I mean, is there anything that you would accept in terms of gun control? Like we would is there is there any? Let me stop you there. Now I feel weird asking the question because I'm to the right of the NRA, but I feel weird asking the question. But in the sake of fairness is there anything that you think could be done to keep guns out of the hands of bad people. Are there any tightening of the laws? Or do you think it's all just enforcing existing laws? I would be hard pressed to say that there's a gun law, we don't have that would make things better. I can't I can't imagine what it would be lately. So at this point, you would not, not, not even like. Like tightening up. The restrictions on selling guns privately from person to person, like if you let's, let's say you were an individual who sold the number of guns over the course of a year to people, you were not related to at what point do you become a dealer and need to get all the federal licensing? Taking care of. Define dealer in terms of number of firearms, but they never done that they have it gray. Okay, right. There. But if you go through a dealer, you have to have you have to do a background check, but the background check system itself is flawed. It's got all kinds of false positives, discriminates against minorities. No, I don't I, I am I am at a loss for words that you have to make something that I think. In a case where more gun control would be better. I can tell you this. I think we'd be safer with less gun control. If you got rid of these free zones, right, right? Well, I, I agree with that. I think gun free zones are part of the problem. I think we need to have someone armed in Kenner carrying concealed in every school in America. That's my opinion. Congressman massey. Hope you get your tesla topped off there at the super charger and have a safe trip back to DC. Thanks for having me on. All right. Talk to you later, congressman Thomas Massie. He's he is without a doubt fee. Most interesting congressman in congress. I don't care. He is without maybe I'm biased because he's my congressman, but without a doubt, the most interesting congressman MDC, your to your questions been have you asked, what is the grounds that just in a mosh wants to impeach President Trump on, what are the high crimes he claims that the president clearly, according to the Muller report was attempting to try to switch Justice and that, despite the fact that many of his staff members kept him from doing that, that we should prosecute just on the fact that we can aspertain from reading the document that he must have intended to do. So the problem for mosh is that he is falling for Muller's political play here. A lot of people still think Muller is like some kind of neutral actor he's not Muller either. His.

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