20 Burst results for "Shell"
The Bancroft Brothers Animation Podcast
"shell" Discussed on The Bancroft Brothers Animation Podcast
"These awards. We're propped up by these images of success, but like this was created in a living room of a walkthrough apartment in Brooklyn. It was not like we're stressed out. We work at Pixar and everyone here is super talented and there are like imagineers all over the place and we just have to make sure that we're competitive. Like we were like two or at least one of us was like me. Like a stoner on a couch, like not that it's not that hot talented and not looking ambitious, but like there was zero pressure behind me in fact, what I was bolstered by was the truth of my own failure, which was that I was about to get fired from SNL and it was like, I don't know, how do I just have fun here? So how do you create a character in that environment? You just be the thing that feels good because so much around doesn't feel right. So much feels like rejection, so much feels like you're being defined as minuscule and not important and as excluded and so I was just like working with softening into what was sort of enclosing on me. And we created marceau by just Tapping into feelings that I was feeling and putting them into a vessel that I felt was completely impenetrable. You can sneak Marcel kind of past any castle guard, no one that's true. You know, like, that fine to create a vehicle that in your own mind, your critic isn't going to come for. Yeah. But that character gets developed is because, you know, on his face and I don't actually mean his physicality. I just mean like who he is when he's there for apparently he's not in the race. He's just some dude on the side and I just needed to find a vessel that could hold what I had. And I think that also taught me a major lesson generally about the creative processes like how do you find these sneaky vessels to hold precious, you know? A lot of times, if you're a creative person, you're going to face risk and rejection over and over again. And your most precious stuff can suddenly feel like contraband, like you have to sneak it past your most, you know, eagle eyed internal critic. And how do you just get past that? And so that's how we did this is like, I was lucky enough to have dean somebody who's just interested in having fun and who is always engaged in the creative process, like dean wakes up and he's there. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's running it on and off. He's waking up and he's watching movies. He's waking up and he's thinking about how to be in his artistic life. And I am the same way. I'm just, I'm like a different person, but I'm the same. And so we were just doing our thing. That's so funny. I love that it started. So I really do feel like the best things kind of come from that personal space. And it's starting small like that, like you said, just leave us a cag. Freshening up the weekend, getting out of your head space that you were in already because the SNL stuff that you just kind of started riffing and having fun, right? And so many good things come from come from that. I will say that this, I've heard from so many people, I told you I gushed a little bit off microphone before we started, guys. About how my daughters are deeply influenced by you and just love you. My daughter, a little shout out for Caitlin, who read your book and my daughter Sierra to big, big fat. Anyway, oh my gosh, I gotta say, there's so many poignant moments in Marcel, and maybe you can help me out with this. Does that do you think is Marcel Jenny is Jenny is Jenny a little Marcel is Marcel, a Jenny that you want to be? I'm kind of interested in that dynamic too because one thing that dean mentioned is that you're so good at philosophizing too within the character of Marcel. And therefore audiences are really connecting. I know my daughters again really connected with Marcel because he'll take those little poignant moments and talk about life or how he sees life and it's so charming and real. And I'm wondering if that's the Jenny coming out in those moments or how did you come about creating that character? Yeah, I think it's, you know, I think Marcel. Has definitely has a permanent seat and like also like birthplace in my own psyche. But he is a, what is the word, he's like a. What is the word I'm looking for? It's like when you measure your soul. Oh, a mirror to your soul. Well, I was gonna say when you take something down to its pure elements. Okay. In essence, yeah? Yeah, that's right. He's like that's pretty good. He's looking essential thing in me. He's one essential thing that I have, but because I as a person, I'm also like a female human living in patriarchy and I was raised up and in and there is a lot that has also affected and conditioned me so that I can I can really be like just not as confident or focused or just like generally relaxed as Marcel can be. Not that he can't feel stressed but like I just have other concerns because I have a different body and I am a different size and I live in a different world but you know when I'm by myself if I were not disturbed or affected by the world that I was grown up in, I think yeah, maybe I might be a lot more like Marcel all the time. But he's definitely like a big part of how maybe I would be if I could just like. How I aspire to be all the time. But because I'm like a people pleaser and I'm a performer and I'm all these other things I can't really be like him all the time but being Marcel is like a great relief to me. Yeah. Like some people are like, oh, I wish I could just say screw it and like move to the Woods. Emotional version of moving to the Woods. He's like, he's like, I could be like. I feel like you kind of did that in real life, too. Didn't you, Jenny? That's true. I did move to the Woods in my way or move to the ocean or the Woods by the ocean. The Woods by the afternoon. That's a good place. But he's just, he's like a part of my psyche, you know? Yeah. That's certainly kind and warm and giving and also kind of confident at the same time. It's going to be an interesting that I am. That's for sure. He really is and I think, I don't know. I think he's seen less of what I've seen. So he's able to be more confident. It actually kind of like speaks to what I find to be the most annoying, one of the most annoying things that people can say to other people is like, just be confident. Yeah. I think being confident is very conditional. For sure. Yes, it is situational. You're right. And so let's talk about the writing process because you have a co writing era co writer on this. Is that basically because it was, I don't know, I don't want to call it Lucy goosey kind of in the script writing like where there was a lot of ad lib kind of. It was kind of an improvised kind of thing. That's what dean is that true. Yeah, or is it very structured in the script and you were actually in the screenwriting process of it too? We started with improv. So dean and I
News, Traffic and Weather
Fresh "Shell" from News, Traffic and Weather
"By Friday were in the low 70s and will continue in that pattern through the weekend. I'm Kelly Blyer and that's your a look at Northwest News Radio weather. Some relief at the pump for most of us. ABC's Dave Packer reports. Gas prices have been one of the biggest drivers of inflation so the latest news from the U .S. Energy Information Administration is welcome. The average price of gasoline in the U .S. falling for the third week in a row. You're paying just under $3 a gallon down nearly 4 cents from last week but about a penny and a half higher than this time last year. the Some of cheapest gas in Texas where drivers are paying around $3 .30 a gallon bucking the national trend California with three consecutive weeks of price increases and drivers shelling out an average of $5 .90 a day. Dave Packer ABC News ABC entertainment ABC News ABC News ABC News ABC News ABC News ABC News ABC comes after Taylor Swift's heiress tour concert film is set to theaters a week from Friday. Beyonce's film debuts December and speaking of Taylor Swift there was a lot of Taylor
The Bancroft Brothers Animation Podcast
"shell" Discussed on The Bancroft Brothers Animation Podcast
"Boarding and then when we were designing characters at Kirsten's house and Daniel and his directing partner, Daniel were, I forget what Kim went. But my memory is that we were both in their backyard working on our movies simultaneously. Drying and they were like writing the other across the yard and it's been like such a, I don't know, like so weird but beautiful and I don't know, senator just like great warm feelings to think that like they also then ended up both of our movies ended up being a 24 releases that premiered at the top by the same year, but we're released around the same time and now we're having this like blessed experience of having our movies so you gotta go with your Sundance and well not send that. But anyway, some of these film festivals, him having his film, you have in yours. Is that true? Yeah. We were both at south by getting to be with our respective movies, which was never happened. That never happens. The universe is aligned. I go to film festivals. I don't invite Tony. Many times. But I've been his boss. So it's okay. I get him back in the end. Oh, I already got you back. I'm your boss right now. So you guys, this has been such a pleasure. And we want to be when we want to honor your time. Like Tom said, hopefully we'll be getting Jenny on too and she'll be able to finish this off. So thank you guys. We're so excited about this for you guys. Marcel, the shell with shoes on. If you guys haven't seen it, go out and see that movie. It's about to win the Oscar for best animated feature, predicted here. We'll see. All you gotta do is say, because we called it, all you gotta do is just the very first thing you say. Just want to say thank you to Tom and Tony. Anyway, that's for this win. For this win. Baby browse is too big, Tony. Okay, so yeah, yeah. Have fun for some first and foremost, you guys. And dean, last question. So can you give our audience a little something about Leland stitch? Is Chris Sanders coming back as the voice? Gosh, he has to. He
Cloud Security Podcast by Google
Fresh update on "shell" discussed on Cloud Security Podcast by Google
"Hi there, welcome to the Cloud Security Podcast by Google. Thanks for joining us today. Your hosts here are myself, Timothy Peacock, the Senior Product Manager for Threat Detection here at Google Cloud, and Anne Hunchuvakian, a reformed analyst and senior staff in Google Cloud's Office of the CISO. You can find and subscribe to this podcast wherever you get your podcasts, as well as at our website, cloud.google.com slash podcast. If you enjoy our content and want it delivered to you piping hot every Monday, please do hit that subscribe button in your podcasting app of choice. You can follow the show, argue with your hosts and the rest of our Cloud Security Podcast listeners on our LinkedIn page. Anton, this is a fun CISO episode that's full of growth lessons, leadership lessons, interesting stories of migrating to cloud and one of the strongest endorsements of cloud as both risk reduction and business velocity improvement I think we've gotten on the show to date. What did you think today? I think so too. I think that we should not lament that the episode did not cover how to improve configurations of your cloud armor or how to run SIEM or any of this. It's a really good episode with a guest who experienced some of the lessons that clients are learning today, but eight years ago. So it's really fascinating that it's like for many companies, his past is the future and that makes his lessons hugely valuable. Hugely valuable and his advice is applicable to both CISOs all the way down to people who want to get started and get promoted in our field. And so maybe with that, let's turn things over to today's guest. With that listeners, I'm delighted to introduce today's guest. Today we're joined by Jeremiah Kung at AppLovin. Jeremiah, thank you so much for joining us today. I'm excited to have you here because we have something in common. We've both had the East Coast to West Coast experience. I started my career in Washington, DC, and I swear to God, the people I worked with at the startup I worked at First Shape, to this day, if I get drinks with them, they rip on me for wearing a suit to my interview with them. So the East Coast to West Coast interview, the whole thing is very real. So what's your take on that distinction aside from costumes for interviews? Yeah, I totally get it. I'm not a big fan of wearing ties either. It feels like a weak pair of hands slowly strangling me all day long. Yeah, for me, it's more of a metaphorical one. I was born a West Coast surfer kind of guy for the longest time, but career wise, especially making the moves, working for bigger banks, which I saw them as East Coast, let's face it, the bigger banks are New York, North Carolina. It's very suit and tie, very more button down, very much more about the controls, the frameworks, the committees, and infosec has to give the go ahead further than it goes to production. West Coast being out here with places like Palo Alto, where innovation is rampant and it's wonderful, you got to move fast. So you live by the speed and the velocity of your releases. And if someone's slowing you down, they're going to keep you from getting to market faster than your competitors. So it's a very different approach to information security. I remember earlier when I started speaking about this about a year ago, you can tell all sorts of funny stories about being at an East Coast company. And you know, all the red tape you have to go through and everyone kind of sighs and kind of agrees with that. But you know, at the end of the day, the West Coast, you have other risks you need to be aware of too, as well. And it's about trying to find that balance and attending to what the risks are. So the fundamentals don't really change, but out here, you have to innovate faster? Innovate faster. And I think really what you need to understand to have is a clarity of the risk, right, to really understand what the risk is. Coming from a big bank, of course, losing data is a huge thing, operational risk, regulatory risk, and there's all of that layers that you need to go through. With the West Coast, you really need to kind of understand, okay, how's this company making money? Where's all our data sitting? And you know, what are all our attack surfaces? So I think this is a basic step for anybody information security is to really understand what the asset inventory is, including intellectual and data assets. But it's not just small company, large company, though, because it sounds like if you're in the West Coast startup, your risk of just dying, the risk of startup going kaput, deep in my heart, I think it's more important than cybersecurity risk. I'm joking about it. But ultimately, I understand if I am a startup guy, the startup going out of business is a higher risk than security issue. Of course, security issues can also drive you out of business. Yeah, I get that. But that's not just what you're talking about, right? There are other issues. Yeah, absolutely. Other issues on that, because operational risk is again, if your competitors beat you, and you lose market share, okay, yeah, regulators are going to come after me or something like that. But it doesn't really matter. I'm out of business. What's the big deal there. But at the same time, if you do get breached, that's going to make you lose market share as well. So you need to kind of figure out what that balance is. Okay, that makes sense. So let's shift gears. This was actually kind of a cool intro. And it introduced the whole concept in my mind. Now I kind of think, hi, are you East Coast CISO or West Coast CISO? Maybe my greeting for the foreseeable. One other thing we wanted to explore, and this may have something to do with this cost dimension is, initially, when cloud computing public cloud showed up, the default stance from any CISOs was kind of slightly negative and, or maybe strongly negative or get this cloud out. I'm not allowing it in my company. So this was probably like a good number of years ago. Now, certainly this changed, and we see a lot of CISOs embracing cloud. But here's the thing. We hypothesize that there are CISOs who are active cloud fans who kind of want cloud because it's better. And admittedly, we have a CISO here, Phil Danables, who is of that type, but he joins Google Cloud because of the belief, presumably. Now, are there other CISOs who think cloud is just superior for security and they're driving cloud adoption as opposed to resisting it? What is your take on this? Yeah, that's a great point. I've seen both sides of the coin. I've talked to people on both sides of the coin on this one, and I'm kind of obviously in the more cloud-centric side, but I'm a little bit more in the middle to the left of that, if that makes any sense. I'm very pro-cloud. I think it deals with, very efficiently, a lot of the old concerns that you would have about security, patching updates and Vone scans and Vone updates and all that other type of stuff, because you can spin these things up so quickly, the fixes and release it out there. It's not, back in the old days, some guy with a CD running around from every server trying to load and update patches and stuff like that. You know, that's such a funny thing to pause on, because maybe this is my youth speaking. I sometimes forget that people had to do that. And I think for a lot of our listeners, it's hard to appreciate that, yeah, really, that's how it used to work. If you had to patch something, it wasn't Terraform Apply, my new version. It was a dude with a CD in a server room somewhere. That's crazy. Oh, yeah. Yeah. And if you were in a freeze period to try to do patches, you had to go through all sorts of updates and things like that to try to get in, and it gets all sorts of approvals. I think the dude with a CD is the least of your problems, is the talking to all the layers for making a change, submitting requests in paper forms, you know, ideal bureaucrats. I think the dude with a CD would be like, dude comes in, sticks a CD, and does the patching. That's fast. No, no, no. But some of that still exists, right? You still need change windows, you still need approval. So maybe here's the question is, how does Cloud, for you as a CISO, change that part of the equation? What's the non-technical changes? Improved. Not changed. Take the pessimistic stuff out. How did Cloud improve this for you? Anton, I think that's known as leading the witness. Okay, fine. Yeah. I feel like you're trying to give me what the answer is there. But I mean, I'm already on that side. It's really the visibility. Because, you know, being at Apple, we're strong partners with Google Cloud and being all in Google Cloud, I can really see where our assets are, I could see trends over time, I could see the logging and the monitoring and all the alerts and the phones all in one spot, which is very nice. But I get it, not every company can be 100% in the cloud. I would imagine that a bank, you're going to at best be some kind of hybrid approach to that, depending on the size of the bank. And I could see and outsource a lot of the running around changing. I just had this question the other day dealing with some audits. Hey, show me when's the last time you changed and rotated your keys and how often that is? Well, being in Google Cloud, they do that for you. And you guys do a random rotation of that. Whereas AWS does it to make sure the keys are rotated every 365 days, according to NIST and TIP standards. You guys do a random rotation, which it could be two weeks, it could be 365 days, but at some point, those keys will be rotated. So that's kind of the intelligence behind to keep it random, to keep it fresh, to keep it on top. I appreciate that from a security perspective. And I don't have to rely on a team to constantly run, again, running it out and changing keys and this and that, even at a cloud level where you have to, you know, you can just terminal in and do that. This is just handled for you. And as we moved more and more to Kubernetes, more and more to serverless environments, these old ways of needing to do security become less and less impactful. But then again, there's always a new attack surface that has yet to be discovered. New problems are going to come and show and raise their heads from a security perspective. We're just on the way of discovering what those are. Yeah, that makes a lot of sense. So I want to go back in time a little bit to maybe when cloud was newer for you. I understand you were part of some big migrations back in the day. What did you learn about doing those, quote unquote, right? It was really lucky to be with Capital One 2015, 2016, sometime when they were deciding to be the first big bank to move everything 100% into the cloud. So famously cloud forward. Yeah, very cloud forward. Yeah. So how did that go? It was a lot of sleepless nights, a lot of work, but it was really interesting. It was great to be part of that team to really learn how cloud can mitigate, how to move quickly, how to combine the teams. I think one of the things that I found to be the right way of doing things was they took a very strong two in the box approach, really kind of a three in the box approach. And what they mean by that is for those teams to move forward, the development team would have one lead that was the business lead and say, hey, this is what the customers want. This is what the industry and market trends are looking at. And then there would be a tech lead say, okay, this is what the teams can develop and how long it's going to take. And then I kind of squeezed my way in there to become that three in the box, the security perspective to listen, okay, this is what the business wants. This is what tech can provide. And here's the risk and the risk we need to mitigate. And to have that conversation was invaluable because you got it from every angle. You didn't just hear what IT said that I can only do so much and why is the business wanting that? You got to hear it from the business exactly what they wanted, how they wanted to do things and why too, and why this was important for the business. That makes a ton of sense. So what were maybe some, for people in a similar boat in the future, how did you get effective at communicating the risk to people? How did you help business understand that? How did you help IT understand that? What was it? The saying that they say, fools talk, cowards stay silent, wise people listen. And that was really kind of key for me on that one was at first listening to the business, understanding their pains, understanding what they were challenged with. This really helped me to assess my risk and also come up with mitigation plans that would work for the business. Again, same approach with IT is understanding, okay, what are their pains? Where are they coming from? And this way I can come up with what the plans should look like with considerations for everybody across the board. Okay, so... Wait, wait, wait. Sorry, Tim. I am kind of curious about it, but I'm nervous that we are kind of reducing all this to effective communication only. Is this... Sorry, this doesn't sound very right. But the point is that effective communication clearly had a huge role, but there are other pillars for success because a huge migration of the first half of bank to the cloud had other tricky elements, right? Yes. So that was another one. What we had was a very strong partnership with our cloud partners at the time. They had been sitting and working with, especially since there were no frameworks, there was no really references. I remember even the regulators at the time were sitting, okay, that's great. You guys are doing that. Can we just sit and listen to see what you guys are doing so we can kind of spread this out with the rest of the banks and standards out there? I think the key partnerships with your vendor, your cloud vendor specifically, was invaluable, providing advice and having that back and forth feeds. I remember working with one particular tool. We said, hey, this encryption standard is not really up to snuff. Could you guys work on that and develop something? And sure enough, I think within two or three dev cycles, they had something that was what we needed. To this day, I find that to be an ideal approach, working with my cloud vendors or just any vendors that I have. I appreciate those who will sit down, listen to me and hear my complaints and do the whole listening and coming up with an approach. I think almost all my security vendors I'm using, as well as the cloud vendors with you guys, have that type of approach. Okay. That does sound like real magic for a lot of more technically minded leaders I've met. So this is solid. This advice is worth the price of podcast alone in my mind. So to sort of progress further, like you mentioned that you learned those lessons quite some time ago and many companies are still learning them even now. And for some of them, cloud is with the future, funny enough. So now that you've went through all this and other lessons, how are you approaching securing cloud differently given the lessons? Like what are you doing better in 2023 regarding securing cloud compared to the original lessons? For me personally, it's a little bit different. Talking to some of my peers who still haven't made that jump, they seem to have that lack of trust of having their data set somewhere not on a server that they're under control over at some point and at their own personalized data center that they have, their own physical security, own the HVAC systems and all other type of stuff. They want to have that data. Okay. That's an approach. It's going to be tough to scale over time. I think one of the things that I found to be very successful here that's helped is reading a lot, a lot of reading, a lot of talking to other peers in the industries and a lot of vendors going to these discussions to stay on top of what the recent threat is and what the other trends are and what the solutions are out there. I think that's key. We're a community and that has to be pushed forward if that makes any sense to continue to talk to folks. I think sitting in your own little silo is not going to work very well. Well, I don't think I know. Yeah. I forget who it was on the show, but they said that security is a team sport. Yeah, absolutely. So I guess on that thread, actually, I want to pull on this a little more. I often joke with CISOs on the show that what they need is not another piece of technology, but rather a family therapist to help their relationships with other teams. What advice would you give to other CISOs, security leaders on first building better relationships with other teams, and two, how to get out of the saying no mentality and into that real collaborative listening mode? Yeah, that saying no mentality. I've talked to some CISOs like that who said, yeah, I'm looking to hire and I need people to join my team because I need them to get out there and say no as much as humanly possible. No, people don't actually say that? Explicitly said that? Oh, wow. Yeah. I just remember I stopped and I looked at him and I said, how are you doing, man? Are you doing okay? Wow. I can imagine his life was pretty miserable. Maybe if you're working on a highly top secret government project where you got to hide the alien bodies, maybe. That's a good example. Yikes. Yeah. I think a family therapist is a great way to do that, to work with their teams, but I think really at the end of the day, it's not that hard. Everyone wants to do a good job when they come to work, hopefully, and everyone wants to get along with their work base. I think the thing is just the key is to be available for them if they have questions. Try to initiate those conversations and also learn when to back off. Everyone's busy. They have a lot of their own success metrics they have to shoot for, so if you can be part of that formula, great on a day-to-day basis, but if they're a little too busy for you to come back at a better time, pizza and beer is always a good way to go as well, but I think it's just trying to be as value-add as possible at all times and be understanding that everyone's trying to get their jobs done as well. I think that's key. That's good advice not just for security leaders, but for PMs as well. One of my favorite pieces of advice for PMs I ever heard was framed as bring the donuts, and I think security is kind of this way too. With PMs, nobody invited you, and they can get along just fine without you for the most part, so you've got to really understand where they're coming from and what value you're bringing to the equation if you want people to work with you constructively. Yeah, it's knowing your role. Security can be a value-add and can be positive for the business, but a majority of the time we're kind of a cost to that business, a necessary cost and maybe, hopefully, a helpful business benefiting cost, but at a cost, nonetheless, people aren't usually going to go to the company for how secure it is, especially on the West Coast. It's about how much money or how handy their product is first. Security is kind of a second thought, but we can definitely work together on that. I have heard some pretty inspiring stories on this show and in my professional life of how security helps teams move faster by taking, say, risk out of the equation or automating away some risk, and so I think maybe in cloud, due to its nature, there's unique opportunities for security teams to be helpful there. Oh, yeah, absolutely. Usually, if you're already moving into the cloud, you're kind of taking a fresh start, and that's where you can really do the security by design. I get it. If you're on mainframes and you've been around for 30 years and now you're the new security person, it's really to go back and difficult to do security by design from the start, right? You're kind of retroactively trying to find fits here or there. But starting fresh into the cloud, it's like, okay, we could do this by design. AppLovin's been great about kind of doing that with protecting their data by saying, hey, I don't need a lot of sensitive data. We're going to try to use our own attribution formats and other types of formulas to grow our customers' business without taking on a lot of that sensitive information. So that helps reduce the risk, again, secure by design. So this is good, especially excellent. Okay, Tim, you can make fun of me for saying excellent, but this is excellent. However, excellence hasn't spread uniformly, right? And you do see people who are still in the saying no mentality. And regarding architecture, we do see a lot of people still stuck essentially in the 90s regarding architecture. They want to lift and shift, or they're even debating whether this new cloud thing is for them. So given your experience, what's your best advice for the leaders of these organizations where either the CISO is blocking cloud or maybe even CIO doesn't want it? So basically, they are not getting any of the benefits. And when they start doing cloud, they do it in a very on-premise way, the lift and shift way. Yeah, that's a tough one, because you're really trying to tell somebody to change their entire point of view. Yes, that's exactly right. Yeah, you need to have that aha moment, travel to Damascus moment for them. And I don't think I could give them individual advice to have that aha moment other than travel the world, talk to folks and, you know, experience and see what else is out there. I know for AppLovin, when we jumped over 100% into the cloud, our business just naturally spiked because of the efficiencies, how quickly automating compute usage was with that intelligence to go up and down for what our demands were. That's amazing. And, you know, again, that's a strong partnership with Google on that, having just an incredible team that really kind of jumped to everything that we needed, which was fantastic. Not easy to find in the industries all over the world. So that was really helpful. But I think they need to talk to people who have those success stories and just to see what it is. I think at the end of the day, if those folks would talk to the business more and to see what the business needs, they'll kind of start to see, yeah, that it makes sense. That's where we need to kind of move towards. But that has to be that personality of I got to get out of my silo. I got to talk to people out of my comfort zone, because you may not be a business person. You could be a genius infosec person. But if you don't get the business and have that background, it's going to be difficult to travel far. Yeah, that's for sure, Drew. It reminds me of that saying, if you want to go fast, go alone, if you want to go far, go together. You really can't go far in security unless you can bring other people on board. And that's one of the things we've talked about on another show, I think, a CISO episode, talking about the challenge of developing people who've excelled for their technical skills as they rise in their career to then excel on non-technical skills. What advice do you have for those people to make that leap from I'm great because I can understand X.509 to I'm great because I can convince the person down the hall that our interests actually are aligned? Yeah, that's a great point. So even on my own team right now, I have people who are very smart, very technically have done some great things, and they want to get to that next level. So for me, to that level, to try to help coach them along those lines, I recommend understanding all the different domains and then having a very strong relationship with the business and spend time with them. I think peer mentorships and things like that to do exchange programs within the company are also very important to understand how the business works and just spending time with them. I think that's, I guess, it's almost like what a social CISO type of thing. It's just very social, and it's really about getting outside of your shell and understanding everyone else's pains and what their goals are to win for their game. That's really kind of at the end of the day, yes, technical, that's good. You need that, absolutely. But it's all about people, processes, and tools. It's a three-legged chair, right? So people are so key, and I think I find a lot of the really, really smart infosec folks tend to focus on the tools, and everyone ignores processes, right? No one wants to document anything, but that's also very important too. So those are the kind of key aspects. But this sounds like hard work. It can be, but it's really depending on your personality types. But it's really not too hard. There's a lot of great classes out there to kind of coach yourself through, and just the ways of thinking about stuff, which is good. I read this great book called Superforecasting, which was, Phil Tetlock wrote this, and it was really about a way of how to think of things differently. You don't have to be highly educated. There's these experiments that are to use folks to become, quote, unquote, superforecasters. Some of the best performers, one of them was a housewife who just had a high school education, but because once she learned how to use the little levers and stuff to do the math on this, it became about how did she see things and how she thought about things. And it was about, okay, most people would see an event and automatically change their opinion about something broadly. For her, it was about, okay, that changes my opinion a little bit towards this direction. And then she would gather more and more data, and each time it would move the dial to the left or to the right. And eventually, she was able to call out, yeah, in six months, this is going to happen. And she was right. I think it was close to 87% of the time. People like that had that kind of approach is really helpful. And I think, again, that kind of breaks down from what we were talking about today is about seeing the trends and kind of seeing the forest of the trees and then looking at every piece of information. And they'll just stick to one piece of information, which might be legitimate, but have that kind of shade your whole approach. You got to see all sorts of factors to kind of come in and see at the end of the day. And I think if you do that, you're going to see that cloud's going to be, for most cases, not all. Again, if you're hiding UFO bodies, okay, maybe not. We'll see that it's an advantage. Well, Jeremiah, I hate to do this on such a note, but I have to ask you our traditional closing questions. Sure. First, do you have a tip to help people improve their security when migrating to cloud? And two, aside from super forecasting, which sounds great, do you have recommended reading for our listeners? Yes. Super forecasting was a great one. I read another great one recently called American generalship. I'm just about finishing it up right now. It's pretty good. It's ideal of how to become a stronger leader and a stronger follower at the same time too. This kind of helps you coach of, okay, this is how I can mentor somebody. And this is also how to be a good mentee at the end of the day. It also has a lot of really great military stories in the background on that too. So fun stuff there if you're a fan of the military. And I'm sorry, what was the other question? One tip, one easy to follow tip for people. Yeah. I'd say try to make a new friend inside the business. At least once a month, have these one-on-ones and have a cup of coffee. I think it goes a long way. I remember getting on an airplane ride home from one of these other team events, talking to sat down two folks that I don't normally work with and got to spend five hours instead of watching a stupid movie, sitting there and talking about their business and what they're seeing, talks of AI and how they're using co-pilot and chat GPT and all that other type of stuff. It was really fascinating to hear their point of view of what they saw from a line of business that I didn't normally do a lot of work in. That's a fascinating answer and fits with the theme of the episode, which I think might be listeners, go make some new friends. So with that, Jeremiah, thank you so much for joining us today. Thanks guys. Really appreciate it. And now we are at time. Thank you very much for listening and of course for subscribing. You can find this podcast at Google Podcasts, Apple Podcasts, Spotify or wherever else you get your podcasts. Also, you can find us at our website cloud.withgoogle.com slash cloud security slash podcast. Please subscribe so that you don't miss episodes. You can follow us on Twitter, twitter.com slash cloud sec podcast. Your hosts are also on Twitter at Anton underscore Jovian and underscore Tim Pico. Tweet at us, email us, argue with us. And if you like or hate what we hear, we can invite you to the next episode. See you on the next cloud security podcast episode. Bye.
The Bancroft Brothers Animation Podcast
"shell" Discussed on The Bancroft Brothers Animation Podcast
"You got a data making. He had one day. That's right. But I'm so glad that it did because what it did was it made me solve problems and figure out how to get that short benefit so much from the fact that the background is live action and breeze is actually blowing the curtain and you have this little character and he's the only thing that stop motion in the frame. That totally informed where we took the character after that. And the movie. I remember I spent the most time figuring out how to create a shortcut on my computer so that final cut pro could recognize when my hand was coming into frame and make and choppy edits. Oh my gosh. All these key commands and it worked half the time. That's pretty impressive. So there's also children's books. So I think sometime after the short Scott really blew up, you guys got a publishing deal and did a couple books? Yeah, yeah, Jenny and I co wrote a couple of books. And then I worked within oil painter to do the illustrations. And after the first one, and then the second video I think we just released because or maybe third one, because we have another book coming out and we wanted to make a little companion piece to it. But yeah, so we did two books and they're very beautiful. The illustrations are all real oil paintings. So I highly recommend it. I feel like every process you do is the hardest way to do it. So how can we make this even more complicated, right? I'm going to do what do you call the edit animation? For this, I've seen some of the behind the scenes things. And I got to just tell you guys, it's amazing the process you went on. Not only did you bring in other artists and other animators, set designers and builders and stuff. But it really still has the flavor, very successfully, I would say so it has the flavor and spontaneity feel of the original shorts that you did dean. And yet the feature is so, so much larger and scaled up and what I saw. And yet it still feels kind of wonky, you know? And I say that in a complimentary style of like it still has that very handmade kind of handcrafted look to it. So Kirsten, did you work with how large was your team? I've seen that you guys actually made large scale sets because it really looks like it's just shot in a house. And it's not. A lot of it is inside stages that are specially lit and with twice upsets. So why did you choose that? How did that help you? And a lot of times there's a lot of replacement animation being done on Marcel too, right? Yeah, yeah. A lot to talk about there. Yeah. Just 5 questions. I know this one. The whole process. Yeah. Enjoy that. Yeah. Yeah, if you see any of the behind the scenes, like, yeah, it is kind of, you know, basically shot the movie twice. Once in live action for all, not all, but yeah, some of the background elements and then like you said, once we get on the stop motion stage, we had already planned on rebuilding and recreating a lot of those full scale, real world spaces. But I think we ended up building many more than we had initially even anticipated to make them to make them animatable into stop motion sets so that you could get underneath them, the access was okay for the animators. Many reasons tie downs, whatever, to recreate those spaces, also just integration, you know, like a lot of times you would just do interact more believably with the space and the world. And it necessitated rebuilding the whole set. I think we thought we could get away with more how they do any CG hybrid movie. We thought we could get away with live puppeting the interactions
The Crossover NBA Show with Chris Mannix
Fresh update on "shell" discussed on The Crossover NBA Show with Chris Mannix
"I'm personally, and Daryl Morey, credit to him, has a much bigger appetite for risk than I do, I don't know that I want to put Joel through another season like the Simmons one with Harden for a team that I think is a cut below its two chief rivals in the conference. So I think if I'm the Sixers and I'm looking back at what can I get from the Clippers, can I get a first, maybe it's not Terrence Mann, or maybe it is Terrence Mann first and a player that can be a rotation piece right now and I'm betting big on Maxine and Embiid kind of being my top two guys, because I just don't understand at this point why is it worth keeping Harding around when I don't think you're going to win the conference anyway. Well, Terrence Mann would get me interested because I think Terrence Mann is a legit prospect. I don't think Terrence Mann is available, at least not in versions of a deal that the Clippers have talked to the Sixers about. Look, I don't know what options the Sixers have other than bringing him to camp and telling him to just play. Because the only other option is doing a bad deal with the Clippers that effectively makes this year gappier. I think with James Harden, you give yourself a puncher's chance to compete with the Bucks in the Eastern Conference, and maybe even better than that. If Harden plays to the highest of levels, which he'll be motivated to do, I would imagine, to get a new contract, you've got Harden, you've got Tobias Harris, you've got an improved Tyrese Maxey, you've still got Joel Embiid. You've got enough to compete with the Bucks team that's going to have to figure out some things with their rotation as well. They need to flesh out the depth of that team. Brooke Lopez, I wrote recently that he was ageless and he looks that way, but who knows, maybe he takes a step back this year as he's 35, 36 years old. I just don't know what choice you have if you're Philadelphia than to bring him in and hope he is professional. I saw some pictures circulating on social media of him at a nightclub. Did you see those signs? Yeah, Daramore is a liar. I mean, it's like, what are we doing? What are we doing? Maybe he has something to do with that. I don't know. He probably doesn't, but that's just the kind of circus that I don't know. That's the thing. Don't you think, Embiid, if given the choice of dealing with some drama and having James Harden or no drama and really not having much of a chance to compete this year, don't you think Joel Embiid would choose the drama? He strikes me as the kind of guy that would choose a chance to win over all else. It's a good question. I don't know where his relationship is with Harden at the moment. I think Eileen, yes, he'll put up with the drama, but he's always trolling on Twitter. I don't know that you can take his Twitter too seriously, but when he's like, this was a fun offseason right after the holiday trade, I'm sure there's already a level of frustration for him and the season hasn't even started. If they get off to a slow start, there's going to be all these questions. He's also dealing with all this in the wake of the Jokic title, which is not directly related to all this but will hang over Embiid. To an extent, I just don't know that the juice is worth the squeeze. I think they'll have to determine how much of a chance they really believe they have to win with Harden and Embiid. They got Pat Beverly and Kelly Oubre, but it's not like they made any major upgrades this summer either. To throw them into the fire against these Bucks and Celtics teams that already felt a little bit better than them. I don't know, man. I'm at the point now where I honestly don't know. If it's going to be a gap year anyway, why not just punt on the Harden experiment and not have this circus follow around Embiid for an entire year? Winning is why. A chance to win is why you keep Harden around. Embiid's going to turn 30 this year. If he was 23, I might say punt and wait until next year, but you can't just throw away years. Especially with a guy that may not have the kind of longevity the Sixers hope. He may be 32-33 and be just a shell of his former self. Do you think there are any teams out there besides the Clippers that would take on Harden? I'd probably call Miami if they strike out again and say, would you take Harden on for one year? Would you give us Kyle Lowry and one first round pick? Philadelphia, if you take Daryl Morey at his word, they're not going to do a deal unless it makes them the same team or better. There's very few deals out there that would do that. If you were able to acquire Lillard, I would have understood that, but other than that, there's no deal out there that's going to make them measurably better. Acquiring Marcus Morris and some cap filler doesn't do it. Acquiring Kyle Lowry at 35 doesn't do it. They'd have to make a reversal. The Sixers would have to decide they really just don't want the headache. Everything we know about Daryl Morey is that he doesn't really mind the headache as long as it gives him a chance to win. Right now, I think the Sixers' best move is to hold on to the guy. As we've said many times in this podcast and the offseason, call his bluff and say, look, if you don't want to play, that's fine, but good luck getting a long-term deal and free agency this summer. It's not going to happen. If you toxify this situation, after you toxified Houston, after you toxified Brooklyn, you're not going to have much luck getting a $20, $25 million per year deal. You're probably looking at exceptions from here on out. I think that's, basketball-wise, the strategy that makes the most sense. Let me ask you real quick, while we're here, the wake of these trades, media day starting up, would you pick either the Bucs or Celtics to win the title as things stand right now? I would still, until I see evidence otherwise, Denver is still the team to beat because I think Denver will have enough organic growth with Jamal Murray, another year removed from ACL surgery. I think Christian Brown will be better in year two. I think they'll have enough organic growth to overcome the loss of Bruce Brown and Jeff Green. Plus, Jokic is still very much in his prime. I think chemistry is going to matter, too, because there's so many teams out there that are just going to be incorporating new pieces from the Clippers, their guys back in, the Suns, a whole bunch of new guys, the Grizzlies without John Morant for 25 games. Same thing in the East. The top two teams are strong, but there's a lot of moving parts there.
The Bancroft Brothers Animation Podcast
"shell" Discussed on The Bancroft Brothers Animation Podcast
"Had one day to do it, and I chose animation. It's interesting because stop motion so many live action directors. And I am primarily live action director, even though I know something about animation now. But so many live action directors, their first movies, whether it was when they were a kid or when they were like me, made this short that it's all, it's always stop motion because it's the lowest bar of entry, technically not technically, but financially, to make something that, you know, feels that has a little bit of worldbuilding and feels like you get your creative satisfaction. And so yeah, there's so many, very much more successful than me, directors I've talked to, like, yes, stop motion, like the first ten shorts I made Ross thought, though. When you had a great thing, there you already had this cute, adorable voice, right? That Jenny did. Was that so was that hotel room experience that you were saying? Was that really the first time she'd ever done the voice or the first time you heard it? That was the first time she'd ever done it, which I could say that it was, she was surprised by it too, because she had just gotten done on Saturday Night Live where you're sort of staying up all hours of the night working 24/7, just trying to ring every drop of comedic potential voices, characters, get out of yourself. And that's how you find the gold. And she felt completely spent and was like, I've already everything in my arsenal has been pitched as a sketch. And so she was shocked when she found a new year. But at least she found something that she could own, then it's not Saturday night live.
On The Verge
"shell" Discussed on On The Verge
"Quick one today my friend. Good morning karen bradley here with the morning message but on this role lately really leaning into edges and boundaries in my own life. And so i share. What's happening with me so that perhaps it sparked something in you. I do these morning messages. Because it is my passion and i feel like it is my purpose to do what i can to help others realize. They are limitless potential to help others. You trust your own intelligence. Trust yourself trust your bureau brilliance. Trust your intuition trust and what happens when we start to go inward and we start to trust ourselves. It gets uncomfortable. I always know when there's a breakthrough talked about it last week. I always know when. I'm on the verge of breaking through something because i get so damn uncomfortable. It's there's an agitation in my system. There's a like like a creepy crawly on my skin. Kabeer who was a mystic A believe he was a sufi mystic. He said the pain you feel is the breaking of the shell that encloses. You bam right the pain. You feel the discomfort the agitation. You feel maybe feeling right now is the breaking of the shell that is enclosed you. That has held you back and held you down. That is weighted. You that is that has made you speak through vales do barriers that has made you play small so just to recognize. That is it's huge. It is huge to say well. I'm uncomfortable there. Must be something going on. There must be something moving through me kind of like a butterfly. Coming out of a chrysalis. I there must be something like a snake shedding its skin when we can recognize it and not recognize it as something that someone else has done to us to make us feel bad but actually a shifting and evolving an emerging within that we just wanna listen to and you can ask what is this. What is this all about. What do i need to do to allow this process a more smooth transition or maybe sometimes you can't. We can't force the rose to blossom but we can sit with it and we can tend to it and we can be kind to ourselves. I knew a few weeks ago. I was i was ready. I was ready to pop. There was something happening in me where there were these extreme emotions coming up and incredible unsettled nece a negatively an irritability and when i looked i live. I was like what are you. What are you doing like your free girl. You know you're free. You've done it but yet still there was another iteration ready to come forward and it did who big time last week when i made the proclamation. The manifesto go back and listen. If you haven't. I will no longer play small. I will no longer not trust the voice within and it had to go through such incredible discomfort to get to that. What is ready in you right now. You don't have to answer the question. You can just ask it because asking the question. It like a weakened something within like. She's listening he's he's here. He's paying attention. Just pay attention to you the breaking the pain you feel as the breaking of the shell that is enclosed you. The old iteration. I i am now carry two point. Oh i'm no longer the version that you may have even heard from me in september. Who knows what's coming next. So i invite you to sit with that today. I invite you to sit with that until lean and as we talked about yesterday to make sure that you have that that dare dare yourself to be big to be bold to do something out of character today or maybe it's totally in character but you have held it back. Boy i am enjoying these. I hope that you are as well. Please let me know email me. Hello at carrow. Bradley dot net. I can't tell you. I how much i adore hearing from you. So please do that. If you'd like share this with a friend check out the show notes. I've got a bunch of free stuff there and don't forget to go out there to be bold and brave to dare greatly today into not play small. If we could all do that together boy we will live our authentic magnificent lives. And what a beautiful world. It will be shannon..
No Story Is Sacred
"shell" Discussed on No Story Is Sacred
"Anchor the characters and it just builds itself. It's it's awkward as hell but you know what you have that line there you get it done I think you know the back back from the ad break is fine It could just be. You know in some podcasts. You do like the informative segment and then you have an ad break and then you go to the interview Yeah yeah and and thanks to casper mattress for sponsoring this episode and me. Andy's and i'm wearing a pair of me. He's now how about you. Bob owner of holly. How do you feel about me on days. Like what what is his name. What is The original star companies name. I don't think that's mentioned the company. That's it's hard to think of but it's really important. What it's almost like ashton actually do work fayek okay. I wasn't convinced disagreement to this fucking plan. That's treating it like. This is actually a real podcast and not a ruse well. Yeah i wouldn't actually say casper mattress or shit like that. No but says welcome back from the ad break when he's in the door That falls to the wayside will see. He's still he's still during the interview then murder them right the start. He wants to him to admit what he's done and a why he's doing the ruse. Yeah it's all fair. I'm gonna put this out. I want to see whether or not you ping on this for this The guy who teaches who is the number one. Shell game operator in america currently which i heard about on a podcast criminal. He teaches law enforcement. How to be part of this figure out this game and when it's happening and one of the things he teaches them is that There's only one person who's ever getting conned. It's the person playing everybody else is in on it. So if you look around and in your part of this thing and you're like well i'm not. I'm not a criminal. Then you're the one being conned. I feel like that's what you've got to take that step back so i wonder whether or not there's an element of.
No Story Is Sacred
"shell" Discussed on No Story Is Sacred
"Have you read it out in your head. Maybe both which now. I love you very much. Thank you very much felt. I feel like i did. I'm pretty sure i did. I've done by may not have done the entire story. I think i've done portions of each of their speeches and it may have only been in that first draft and was it before. Or after you edit that. Yeah it was definitely before i edited. Actually brent do it has brand new brand you. You can tell tech bro. Actually i robot. What actually often have an old school kindles so i had robot read it. You need to have the griffin inflection. I feel Because no problem kid prob. Thanks coming by and that's the voice in my head. See why. I can't do the reading one of these days. We'll get on. Zoom friend will be gifter all be the murder as it was always meant to be. You can listen as the author. Alex can listen as an outsider. How about that. i'll have to wear sunglasses. I understand that you need props for your character couldn't hear. it need you. Actually i do want you to we wearing glasses but like large vietor ones. I do want there to be joviality to you. Can we get 'em fake mustache. Oh in time. Certainly i have the spirit gum here already got. Not you brendan. I could get him the spirit. Gum can grow. Printing can go sta in about today after mustache That's a good point. That's that's a tough sell. But also i i feel like i should tell you guys right off the bat. My initial market. That i was looking at this for was was a podcast. Market was podcast fiction market. So i anticipate there being an actor who could do my work for me. Well we've learned that sentiment. We have learned a very important lesson. Now i alex i see your point and i see everybody else's point i just don't think it should be me. I mean it could start with you. I mean post sound and if it still doesn't have coming up. I would disagree pep because i value in a cold reading. Yes that why frequently actually is. You guys may recall it. Usually we have one or the other of us read off like the samples. Or what have you if we do it in the podcast of her own work a otherwise. We know our stuff isn't it don't have like have people like swap stories..
No Story Is Sacred
"shell" Discussed on No Story Is Sacred
"Do not do it all the time. What i see what. I saw that they were correct about my issue. But did you try to use the correction. They gave no. I added my own shit. They didn't know Problems that this person's too unlikeable. I kept all of his. I possibly made him more on likeable well. Because i'm like well. That's the point of the character so i added other stuff to try to balance it out. You try to try to you. Try to add context to a increase decrease as likability. Yes actually okay. Here's what we can do. Okay okay okay okay okay. This grafter his same asshole gripper self. We have the interviewer be more likable much. More it's a conversation style podcast. Which is the style of the times rather than pure like cereal. That's old news during so they're having a conversation and we're kind of like as the audience. We're like oh yeah we're like in this This interviewer and then we're kind of getting more information about this holiday switches Fake and may have been involved in this series of gruesome murders fires and whatever. But here's la reporter to. Yeah we're on the report it. But here's the thing. People who are on the side of the reporter clearly did not pay attention to the title of the short story because the title short story is a shell. Gabe shall pay attention to p. Where's the p. o. interviewer because they're the murderer. It's the podcast thinking. You know what i can we can. We go into in mind. That as i've already said i frequently would take stories me like well that's fucked and toss it out window. Let's pretend to point to you this time. So we're coming up. What what would you guys a. What's the one thing. I'm asking you to pick among the many what i said. What's the first thing you want me to you. You would suggest that. I fix or change. Change whichever it could be something that works totally fine. Now that you're like you know what to get all the other elements in place we're gonna change it a hundred to read aloud to the enters you know side of the story and just i just want you to read loudly inventor hers dialogue actually. I'm going to push back on that tiny bit. I think you are correct but not me. And that's because i already know how he's supposed to sound i know where all the pastas are. I know and that's the difficulty with a dialogue. Only piece is you can't do any funny stuff with you. Know putting in tags here and there are descriptions that can create the pauses that you want. Or what have you on the pushback. You my god you actually read it out loud yourself..
No Story Is Sacred
"shell" Discussed on No Story Is Sacred
"Yes but like also. Hey i wanna make cools things. Hey i made a cool thing way. What you're using it for. What the application. Oh yeah because like. I think one thing that are Drifter character could be focusing on as a defence Like a not medical device. It wasn't meant to be a caretaker for like you're trying to actually replaced therapy or anything like that. It's not a therapeutic. It's a companion. I know. I was just trying to think of that angle toy. Yes but he sold it to a medical company as we in this podcast. Has he been seen have multiple problems. I do want to say one other practical said what. Cut the line. The first thanks for to the interview added that later. Because i wanted to imply that. There's this unedited. Here's the thing. It's a partial transcript. It should start in meteorites. Okay okay okay. I got you. I got you a good. who knows. maybe there's a bit like the starting to wrap up towards the end of the interview. This might be a weird totally minor. Note with title we have partial transcript be within square brackets like. It's a like a bike that little sick notation chore by about that a problem. It's done the way read. Like the title of the short story is partial. Transcript subtitle choke. That is the title to me. It reads like you accidentally left something in dammit. Okay well okay. See what. I find interesting about this entire process. All of you is that this is the importance of one listening to your editors to getting outside readers and so forth because one authors are full of shit. I'm sitting here being like. I'm pretty sure. I know what the problem is guys. And meanwhile you got like you did not even mention that. It's the medical company that is a very real problem that you do need to fix by one window. I also write about my thing. It's just not at all the entirety of the matter. Here's the thing we're not necessarily right either so true. Which is why you editing. Things to fit what feedback you got is wild to.
Scale The Podcast
"shell" Discussed on Scale The Podcast
"Great to see you face to face man. Let's just tell me a little bit about your business. Well a better contractor were g. see that Currently specializes in the hospitality. Space hotels are oleo. Hotels that we work with is is was heavily leveraged into one client and we have a possible over the last three years to diversify you know the eggs in one basket can be a business killer so We're growing outside of that into more of a retail. Shell build out But the business that got us here we will. We will claim to that because it is a wonderful relationship in business model but being able to grow exponentially based on the relationships. And i know you understand as well as anything If you've got good relationships at are authentic You can have great partners and great partners. Great create great opportunities in any. Just keep that going keeping feed the wheel right and you guys are scaling quickly. I understand that you guys.
Oil and Gas Startups Podcast
"shell" Discussed on Oil and Gas Startups Podcast
"To bob a bomb and environmentalist but you know etc etc. I wanted to to pick your brain though because i heard your podcast about ashley watts ranch and the you know in the leaking wells and the like and I said hey not only happy to talk to you. It's a sixteen hour drive. So knock yourself out if i got so covered. Let's talk and what. I found interesting in these talks. And i'm going to still say it's anecdotal. I'm not willing to say this is for sure right but a lot of the concern from the left from the environmentalists is that they just can't trust us they can't trust the oil and gas businesses valdez. It's anaconda it's a macondo. It's that we covered up global warming research and the like and they almost justifying their mind the hyperbole surrounding ten years the climates. You know the the world's gonna be on fire because of climate change. Because i almost feel like they have to play at that level because they think we have and so you know it's i don't know if this is. I don't know if i'm ever going to be able to articulate the speech correctly or to create a narrative for it. But i do think just one of the things we've gotta do as an industry is show folks that we can be responsible that we can actually be a partner in this because at the end of the day i mean there's no doubting the science that co two levels have gone up in the atmosphere and it's raised the temperature and we've gone from call it three hundred parts per million to four hundred twenty five parts per million today and that's that's primarily based on burn hydrocarbons and man influences it's caused the temperature to rise and we do know if we hit a thousand parts per million rule all be walking around punchdrunk. Because that's what too much. co two. The air does so it is something we need to take seriously and we need to be thoughtful getting through but at the same time we gotta realize that quality of living in your life expectancy doubles when you stop stop burning shit and wood for fuel and you start burning hydrocarbons and so anyway i can throw that out there and i'll let you go on on trust and responsibility in the like because i just think that's that's got to be part of a solution from our side. Absolutely no absolutely. We need like i said before. We need to be more clear on what we're doing difficult. Conversations were there whether people are in agreement are not also think. That's that seems to be a hard thing for most people. These days is to have a conversation with somebody that doesn't agree You know you said that you're very easy to have conversations with people that don't agree with you. I think you knew. And i would be A small percentage that actually had that same mindset on the many people who used to be very understanding and have those difficult conversations that that would just slam the home on the house. And i think that's part of part of what we're being exposed to with media with those etc and the way we we actually live our lives I think it is a bit funny in a not done in a dance Alcohol you're when when organizations like the sierra worked mass deforestation so that we can burn biomass. We can burn would support me and for me. It's it's far from a supportive but it's this a little bit i to to what the things that actually happened in the day money is the is the aimed at bags and and people to basically say what's the narrative and that's not that's that's obviously not not a good. Yeah that particular situation. I will say that in an all the problems that that the world has happened in the co two levels increase in the temperature increase. Temperature is sea level rise. You know the list is very long. We never do discuss the fact that the population is doubling and tripling quadrupling. You know every ten years. I think those are those are accurate numbers. That's those are numbers hurts right the population as what we don't look at and consumption the amount that we consume ever talk about That part of it what we talk about as we need to shut down all the gas to build a new structure for solar windmills. And this is the answer. No this is not the answer. The answer is we have a realistic conversation on how we can do things cleaner safer more efficient and we all work together to put Solutions in place. Which means it. It's a mix of thing so mean a windows are great for a place like denmark. Where do get capacity from their windmills. Where they don't have a law. All the gas base to pull from solar is workable in my opinion in single youth says households that are away from the grid excetera but to say that one or the other is what we should go to and this is this is this is it is just an.
Newsradio 1200 WOAI
"shell" Discussed on Newsradio 1200 WOAI
"Shell kicking off your Independence Day weekend, and we're trying to have fun amid the news. There is interesting news today. There's some good news. And I ask the question. What's the most Patriotic American song ever and I have mine and we will play it and my favorite version of it tonight. There's always a few versions of great patriotic songs and you're welcome to call in at Triple 8941. Paige's as well as you're Well, you're welcome to share with us what you would spend the extra 16 cents that Joe Biden got you. In this year's barbecue budget. First up in San Antonio, Carlos is with us. Hello, Carlos. Welcome to the Joe Pack Show. I'm doing wonderful. How you doing? Okay. God bless USA. Lee Greenwood. Darn straight. Yeah, that's a good first is actually Bruce Springsteen. Yeah, because that's that's more or less anti American, and it's as racist he's talking about killing the yellow man. Yes, if you if you listen to that song or read the lyrics, you'll understand. That anyone who thinks that's a patriotic song is very wrong. So excellent. Excellent. Carlos before I get you out here where you can spend that 16 cents up I think I 11 my table with. It's like a sit down straight and and enjoy my meal. Wow, that's a really good use. And you know what? At the end of the meal, you'll still have the 16 cents. Oh, you know it. It adds up after awhile. Yeah, you can. You can even go invest it. That's great. That's great, Carl. Say hello to San Antonio for me. I missed that city. It's a great place. Thank you, sir. Appreciate you. Gail is in Oakdale. I'm not sure what state that's in. Gale. Where's Oakdale? Oakdale, Minnesota. Oh, great. Great. Welcome. Welcome. We're glad you're here. Thank you. Mike. Happy Independence Day weekend. Same to you. Now do you have a nomination for great American song? Yep. I love this song by Lee Greenwood. Proud to be an American. We heard that song The first time when we were visiting, Um, Nashville. We were at the Grand Old Opry and he was there. I am so jealous of you a getting to go to the grand Old Opry and, uh, and be getting to see Lee Greenwood. And it was it was he singing God bless the USA, the song that Trump place at his rallies. Yeah. Yep. Gives me goose bumps every time. I don't know how you you listen to that song and don't feel pride for this country. I don't know how you don't get it. It's really powerful. There's so many others, but that's two votes right out of the blocks for that song. That's excellent. Now. I don't want to get personal because I barely know you. But what are you going to spend your 16 cents on? I think I'm going to buy toothpicks before the price of them goes way out, Uh, way all the range, you know, right? What's going up? So that's that's It's just a terrible thing. It's so irritating to me, but thank you for being there being an early caller, Gail and I hope you have a great Independence Day weekend and celebrate the freedom that we still currently enjoy. Lot of people trying to take it away from us and re engineer the country. But we're not going to let him do it. God bless you. Thank you for being there, Gail. I'm getting a lot of messages to text messages from some of my knucklehead. Friends, Gail said, initially said, um Proud to be an American. That's the term she used in when I think of proud to be an American, I think of a rock song from a band that's kind of highly unlikely to be singing. Pro American songs from the seventies was the tubes who gave us kind of a tongue in cheek, but yet still anthemic. Celebration of America..
The big d zone
"shell" Discussed on The big d zone
"A lot of times and it does happen. So i don't know how i'm gonna be pitches at the ride over at the club. That may be my phone in the hotel i no. I'm and i'm not sure. I'm not sure unless you pass the golden bar divide and i always go to patel. I have a path. I have a bath as low. Pay for for the year. I'll figure out a way to do it. I'll figure out a way to because they have a they have a walkway. When i walked to the hotel to hotel back and forth though. Hopefully i can use that to my advantage. So i don't know. I'll think it's up to now. I have to have a meeting with the ceo. the bump heads and forgot. What the cat to do. Because i always take my citizens with me on every vacation that i go to. I always think about the citizens. Always take you all with me. It's like you're my companion. Because you know i mean i love you all i love you all. I love you all and thank you for putting up with me. Thank you for listening to the show i. This show is a lifesaver. Because if i didn't have this show i would be owned by now and known not tomato crews and not by the judge. I'm talking about where my wife is. My best friend is and what the lord is that home without this show i would be. I will literally figuratively did without this. Shell that's why even at the depressed person you know. They said that depression people are depressed. They lose their interest in things and even they said another question here. Lose interest in things. Is the flight dead. I was was a place that did not acceptable podcasting. Because this if a lifesaver the is a likely if my only way to get to talk to people in this st evil social that occurs. All god i think lightning the cars..
Oil and Gas Startups Podcast
"shell" Discussed on Oil and Gas Startups Podcast
"Lower carbon footprint and increase production absolutely. And so we'll always continue to look at oil and gas opportunities down my avenue. Investment in blue wear which is focused. On what most people think exploration but i'm like oil and gas is not away number. One and people are reducing their exploration budgets. But it's much cheaper to find oil than it is to buy existing reserves If you can if you're good at it so i'm like well. Everyone's going away from expiration. I think it's great bad because explication if you can use digital technologies to find reserves bam. That's a huge huge. Increase your value of your company. So i make bats an expiration because i believe that technology digital technology is completely changing the game there. Yeah that's a good point. It's kind of like you know you go into this manufacturing mindset of shale and the everyone just kind of you know expiration just kind of bastardize and you don't take all these new technologies and apply it to that process. I'm sure there's a ton of opportunities. One of the best stories energy tech ever. Was that one company that we talked by. Remember the name of it. But it was like thousands of the guy from worked nasr's jpl and he got investment from The newfield energy ceo and a bunch of other people but the jets. Yeah so you're like four hundred eighty million in multibillion dollar valuation oiling gas experience and he bought these these decommissioned russian jets and was essentially saying that he was gonna fly over basins and with technology. Be able to detect the reservoirs right and turns out the whole thing which was like just a scam essentially so but we do have the technology to apply and I just think that it's interesting that everyone's kind of turned their back on just conventional exploration. But if you apply some technology. I'm sure there's a lot of low hanging fruit there to extract value. Yeah i mean data you know again. We've said this a million times. But i think in twenty eleventh one of my companies coined. Data's the new oil. Yeah two thousand eleven. By the way i hear i read it now like well. That's been we've said. I love tree. The trading side of energy and so both power and and gas and i thanked trading. There's so much happening in trading and and the convergence of retail and and and and cell. Trang is a big space. That i i really like man. There's a lot of areas i would. I don't la mobility in terms of you know the whole the whole even My big investments mobility investment but. It's energy storage systems for maritime space. Okay but i don't. I i'm not sure you know mobility me like the whole transportation sector and and you know betting on what's going to be the right ev solution. I think he is more of a power business anyway like electric vehicles because you need to get those needs to be charged and ev charging platforms are really power. So i see that as more power power. But i think mobility. There's a lot of noise and hype around mobility now. Alon must at the time. I checked last week. You know tesla was almost three times more viable on on enterprise level than shell itself. Yeah so you know..
Oil and Gas Startups Podcast
"shell" Discussed on Oil and Gas Startups Podcast
"Loves the outside and believes that it's the energy oil and gas companies. That are going to lead the transition. It's a great place to be so for me. It's been incredible experience. I've met a lot of great people. Yeah i just had a a twitter thread go viral yesterday talking about the energy transition and talking about it from both sides You know you have a lot of people within oil and gas that are climate deniers and you have people on the other side that are just idealist in there's middle ground and it's possible to say hey i think that the oil and gas industry plays a vital role in the energy transition as you know evidence by shell and all of these companies. I mean really putting a ton of capital into new technology and and new startups. And so for me. I wrote a great blog on this. As you do. Talk lot about milton. Friedman's original in one thousand nine hundred seventy s article about this and it. Actually at the time it was about it was about pollution versus the environment same. It's almost like if you go read my blog. It's incredible. I trust me everyone listening. It's incredible this link. But if you actually and then click on the milton friedman link. You'll you'll almost think that you're in modern day. But it was written in the seventies almost fifty years ago. The same thing happens economics will ultimately drive what happens. Yeah and you need government. So i tell everyone is you need three actors to all participate for anything to change. You need society. So one of the things we know about society is we. Everyone says they want a clean environment. But how many will pay extra for recycling or pay extra for that water bottle that's made from recycled waste very few were. We actually know most people won't do secondly you need businesses to be there to do it but businesses won't do it unless it economically make sense because as i my blogs awesome ride is ultimately if you.
Oil and Gas Startups Podcast
"shell" Discussed on Oil and Gas Startups Podcast
"And we're still having the same conversations a decade later. But you guys faced in the early days and so and that's not just energy that's like houston a whole. The entire tech scene here is still very very fragmented. And some of the biggest initiatives without really conan buddy out that are happening in the city. It's kind of the same thing that you said. Htc it's very quiz by political hands in this pie bureaucratic very much a real estate play and it's not tech play. I mean look like an i again. I've been hot and cold on austin. And we go to austin if we if we want to on the podcast about my belief since. I did live there for twenty years but josh bears the mayor of austin. He's an entrepreneur. Tacky he's awesome. Yeah who's who's the who's that in houston fact. Everyone has tried to be that in. Houston's been sort of throw down thirty we throw rocks at us people including myself. Yeah it's like the the people that sorta ran the houston tech ecosystem are bureaucrats yachts. And there's a place for everyone. But but i've told them and they don't like the answer. I'm like that's the problem. You're trying to orchestrate something that news bureau ganic yet and you're trying to hold back people that are trying to build things organically yet. Will that will make it a better ekostahl misses. You have people running initiatives that have never built shit themselves haven't built companies and if you re single biggest brad fields book startup communities bedfellows. One of the founders of techstars. She talked about he talks about. This is that you'll have a bunch of corporations come in and they try to set up the community and it never works because it has to be led by founders the community has to be led by founders because they know what the they know what other founders they know what resources and energy. We don't have a ton of successful founders. Don't i mean that's yeah. That's one of the issues. We recruit back hundred percent. That's another thing that mean girl were talking about. It was like you've never had these liquidity waterfalls that silicon valley has. Were you know just like you were talking about a bunch of guys over. Adele made a bunch of money. In the you're reinvesting that into startups you're reinvesting wisdom and experience and it's just something that we've lacked here in houston and i think that it's a little bit better now because now we have content in the internet. And you get access to different things but it's still The boggles my mind to see that we have so much talent here in so many resources and we still struggle to stand up in ecosystem and obviously that's a main objective digital wildcatters is to build this tech community but has just It's just wild to hear from the man himself..
Oil and Gas Startups Podcast
"shell" Discussed on Oil and Gas Startups Podcast
"That basil's in them decide that they have to do something about it but yeah You know we saw this the other day. We posted a video on youtube Those a very balanced approach of how oiling gas is utilizing new technology to mitigate emissions and fighting global warming and we got hit with a fact checker on it. you know. it wasn't like a bad fact checker like this is false information but it was like. Oh this is global warming. Here's a source to learn more which is also funny. Because they sort they linked to wigan pedia. Which i thought was kind of goofy. But you already seen that like if there's any discussion around the topic of global warming or oil and gas. It's become a political conversation and you see not cajole but the the comments that we got on the video anybody who watched the industry loved it said it was straight line wasn't political. It was just fact based but we had a lot of people finding that video. And i just saw this. What about the algorithm. Who is the video being placed in front of because we get a lot of a negative things saying this factual you can obviously tell that. They are complete radicals on the other end of the spectrum knows all factual opinion on there is all factual percent factual. We're actually setting other agencies. That are not willing gas agency. Yeah and all that data. So i think it's it's definitely a risk. I don't think we're necessarily there yet. But it's already been attempted could oil and gas not just sites but like data essentially be platforms and. I think it's something that we we're going to have to struggle with and probably we're have to overcome the It's absolutely ridiculous that we're even talking about this honestly yeah But that's the world that we live in so we'll see what happens the more you know so good. Takeout t h e newsletter. That goes on for that to get ours as well roundup. It's world's greatest newsletter An let's get right into the episode. Was that welcomes walking by tournament. Will yesterday this podcast. We're joined with the infamous. The one the only the kirk cockburn the dangerous though g the g you really are like there's only a few people who have that title and i feel like you were probably more than most. I think it's like you probably think. Kemal farid i consider him another g. Yeah because he's been around obviously started married back in the eighties. But you does that. Sanford over gold original gang game. Serve but over gold. Is you know that works too. I think you've probably. I think through the work that you do is surge now a shell and everything in between as a fair to say that you've probably invested in more energy tech startups than anybody. I mean i'm over sixty in counting. So that's a lot. Who else has more deals now. I have probably haven't done. The highest quantity are in terms of the amount of money. I've spent but yeah. I spend a lot of my own personal money so it is painful. I can't wait to look on your face. You're like oh yeah. This is getting heated. So yeah aren't you. Tell us about like. Let's talk about. What surgeries i am. I don't even know where to start unpacking this. Actually let's talk about where you're at now ratio ventures. What do you do show so. Currently i have two jobs at shell. One is my day job. My day job is. I'm one of the leaders at shell. Ventures which is the global corporate venture capital arm of the company and invest in deals entrepreneurs that.