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126. After Grenfell and advanced Sheffield

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126. After Grenfell and advanced Sheffield

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I think was that a lot of them died following the safety advice given to kind of, you know, if you stay in your homes, you will be safe that just turned out not to be true whole load of incriminations follow. Those talk about whether the promise the cladding much discussion of my poor quality maintenance of council housing. And the fact is happened in, in the roll bar of Kensington and Chelsea, which is the single richest local variety in the whole of the UK. Oh, thing made it feel like this was kind of this event was symbolized the tipping point. And I'm national debate about inequality. And what we what we owed each other citizens and two years old. He's fair to say that almost nothing has been done to, to actually deal with any of the any of the problem. Of the info for highlighted. No one's been been particularly held to account for it. My guess today, thinks that the fires of symbolic for all of us other reasons they're also kind of typifies problems that may going on in the housing sector for a lot longer than the last two years. Jones engines yourself. Yeah. My name is Joe Hopkinson. I work at the university of Leeds and research in different, dimensions of the housing crisis, and how's it privatization for over twelve years? And I just recently written a book called safe as houses, which tries to bring together what happened on the night on the fourteenth and the, the fourteenth of June and Lincoln to different aspects of housing is managed maintained produced. So let's start with with Grenfell. I mean, we'll did the event suit of mean in your mind. Well, I remember waking up that morning and my partner said that's been this terrible fire. It's a council block in London and I kind of said while. Oh, you know that's not much of a surprise as it. I will see the time it didn't realize the just how many people were going to, we're gonna die and what the implications of it would be. But at the time it wasn't really I was kind of very not surprised at all. I got text message that morning from a resident on another council stay in London who drew attention to the fact that the company, the main company that was involved in and Grenfell refurbishment was also a company that had been refurbishing homes on her state, and they have been raised in similar problems over many years with the quality of the work. The attitude of the contract is the fact that the local authority just did not take any interest in what they were saying regularly passed them around different contracts. And you know, she was just kind of like saying, oh my God. This could have been us. We could have been, we could have been burned alive. We could have been killed. She was devastated for the people involved, but she was making the links, and so that. What it means to me, not disaster happened, and obviously, is ongoing the ramifications of it drew attention to the fact that there are council states or the social housing states, private developments all over the country that will have some kind of, I think fundamental safety faultline, some, some huge weaknesses in how those construction process taking place, which renders those residents in those homes, potentially. Well, the homes dangerous and the residents potentially their, their lives at risk. That's where it continues to infamy. I keep looking across the revelations that keep coming out every week, we get another tower block this GOP some kind of flammable cladding some kind of pork compartmentation that's been, there's been done, or it's been broken during refurbishment works. And it just seems to me that we aren't even close to the almost like beginnings of opening up the scale of the, the dangerous world, that's been done over the last fifteen twenty years. I mean, I think one of the things that I found most haunting about the Grenfell story was off towards the emerged that they were posts on, on like the community forum, basically saying, you know, we are worried that this kind of disaster could happen because if the systems are in place to. Yeah. I mean, I guess my question is, you know, we need to be careful not to say it was the fault of a specific contract is the vote of a system. Right. So given that it's a systemic problem. Would you have found those kind of posts and community forms for any counselor state because this is this widespread? Really? That's a really good question. I really good point. So the grandfather action group have been blogging about that refurbishments game for years. And in plain sight, all the evidence was there and no paid any attention. If you go to any regeneration scheme, and he referred from project involving a group of residents, you will probably find a blog a website a Twitter account that is making allegations asking for help, and before Graham full no was paying blind, but nose to any of this after grow full suddenly, we are almost like over overtaken kind of incredible saturation point now of the number of people coming forward. Saying this happened to us this happened to us now they points to a systematic problem. And I feel the systemic problem is not easy to sort of say, well, it started here. This is why is what is the way it is. I think you have to go back many decades and start to see this kind of unraveling of what effectively emerged in the post war era of a kind of a control a regulation, Bill environment, where there was more of a priority around the safety of buildings, and the regulatory systems and inspection processes that were created, and evolved did a good job the job, and they did maybe do now of ensuring that homes developments construction is safe and there's a bit of a paradox in some respects. We've never had higher regulations and higher standards of the Bill environment. And yet, we've, we've also never had a thing or for a long time, this kind of era of self-regulation system of self-regulation, where the very people are very companies actors are. Benefits and property in from construction, regenerator, and so on or effectively regulation monitoring their own work. So when we talk about the systemic issues, one of the main systemic faults is the we've allowed people who profit from development to actually affectively Martin earn homework to affectively sign off that they have met building regulations that they've met contractual standards that they've met safety standards that happened over period of thirty to forty years under under neoliberal policies. So, okay. I mean this surprises me bit because to be blunt, ballet issue in the problem was going to be money. It's the counselors do not have the money to spend on this stuff. And when they do they don't necessarily want to prioritize this over things, and because because of a phenomenon phenomenon called residuals, ation council housing has gone from being a ten year for ever unto being tenure of lost rezoned. And it's you know, people just don't care about council tenants because they're poor basically is all. What was going on here? I'm surprised that we're in the inter regulation. Yeah, yeah. I think because let's be clear of steady cuts and how residents council tenants in particular treated, and stigmatize and seen as almost like an underclass of people not to be cat about. That's definitely a factor. That's a factor in any regeneration scheme. The I've looked at, but I think when you've got now, lots of brand new private developments all coming forward. Residents wealthy people people who bought flats in new developments pointing out hundreds and hundreds of defects in the building pointing out that their homes are worth nothing. The council them the couldn't get a mortgage now to move or someone couldn't get a moist Beiber flat, because of the defects, because the Cloudings combustible, but also because of so many different things that are problematic with the way the things been Bill. This is not just about class, and it's not just about a stereotype is about how the Bill environment is regulated. And in. My own research. I was looking specifically at these schemes so you have counselor states being taken over by groups of private contractors, and the whole point appear fi. Actually, we think of it as a way of hiding money off the of the public accounts of kind of transferring, long-term debt as interservice payments that we've made to contract as over time the heights public that the other point appear father is some without talking about, which is, is a model, self-regulation regulation. You've got all these contracts who are given contracts by the main contract to the special purpose, vehicle was takes over the council. Stale takes over the school Ospital and then you think will who's check in the work of their contracted. Who's check in the word the special purpose vehicle, the one that's got the contract with the public sector. They part their contract is that they will self certify self monitor self regulate their contractors now, of course, building control. Local authority Bill control will play a part in some of the some monitoring some of the construction, if they choose to go with local building control, but they can also choose all the contract is approved inspectors, you don't need to scratch, the surface, very far to see a lot of very cozy relationships between, you know, the, the regulatory world and these companies, so there's a whole sort of self interest is the whole serve, I think, competing and conflicting interests in as part of just, just basic regulation, which we just come very badly wrong because we've failed to separate who's going to actually monitor from who's doing work. He's got confirmed. Too cozy and readily between developers and regulators, I should spell out for international listeners, the PF I stands for private finance initiative is kind of public private partnership arrangement that was very popular with the last labour government, generally, it's fought because it meant you could spend money and not keeping you current account basically used to rise about PF. I quite a lot. Back in the day. And one of the things that always struck me them. Was it suit of didn't matter how badly the big firms like capita or Surco could screw up curly? Yeah. These guys would always get contracts because you know that just weren't enough. The market just wasn't competitive in there just weren't enough of the players out there, if you kind of, like removed or the companies of massively screwed up. He did never market anymore. So it undermines his own argument that you can get competitive pressure working your favorite. There was no competitive pressure in so much of the tender in procurement appear fi contracts. You know, there was if you just look at the housing contracts it tended to be two main consortia, the had, they're kind of preferred contracts as they got most of the contracts, there was no real competition. Now, residents would say we were kind of stay to kind of be really favorable and thing that this, this contract was the battle, we should go with them by by the council officers as well. I mean, the idea of self-regulation is kind of. It's not as ridiculous as it necessarily sounds because if you kind of make it someone's job to like, you know, meet certain standard. But if they turn out not to be meeting that standard. You can come down on them like a ton of bricks. Then you could sort of see it working so ways the no enforcement mechanism here. I mean it's one thing to Mark your own homework, but there's nothing to like, and then not be any penalty to sort of giving yourself too many marks. Yeah. If see. Absolutely. So again, PFI embodies, this idea of the, the kind of the contract, private companies will take the risk in if they if they made a mistake, if they don't obey the law, if they don't build a quality project, they'll be punished in my research on these on these schemes contracts, don't get punished, the don't get punished because again, remember this these layers of this lays of self monitoring the going. So when when the local authority is looking out the performance of the contract is they're getting a spreadsheet in a report. From the very contracted. That's effectively in charge of doing the work saying, we have once again, exceeded all of our performance targets were a hundred percent on this ninety five percent on that is all fantastic. So local authority doesn't then go in and say right we're going to we're going to see if what you're saying is true, they accept the word of the contract is us thirty on austerity in the sense of the term since two thousand ten but just the fooling kind of council budgets and expertise is that factor here because once upon a time like counselors had massive in house, housing games, and they will have the expertise cove. Look at those numbers and go. This is nonsense. She just talking rubbish whereas now they don't necessarily have that. I'm being a council housing. Officer is a very different job. Absolutely, there's no, there's no doubt about it. But that's a stereotype isn't isn't again. Isn't this day? I think you have to go back again. Nine four all the way forward from ninety four owns. We see waves waves of gradual hollowing out of local authorities ability and capacity to be the local police force of the Bill environment. Now, what are they doing? Local authority, building control. The pumps are competing with the private sector for contracts. What were they competing on? Is it going to be quality? Is it going to be like rigor? Are they gonna be going around over the behind the backs of every single building and say, you can't do that you can't right? The going there to help get those developments signed off as quickly as possible. So the requirements on on on local stories, and other approved inspectors from the private sector, is much lower the expectations are very low. So that's why you cannot contract to facts. We know that they're never really going to get properly checked up monitored. And told you can't do this, this needs to be completely redone think they operate in this, an environment where they have carte blanche to kind of costs Kirk Costco. Costco. Maximize and you know, maybe once in a blue moon that might get might get caught out. 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So instead, we'll get to aquatic advanced manufacturing parking shadowed and pretend that this relevance to the topic regulation, 'cause 'cause that's fine. Hello, bill. How are you? I'm good. Thank you. How you doing? I'm good as ever learn show, the listeners of marveling at the quality of planning because. But certainly could be the case of the next accidents. But it's going to be fantastic. But this one is going to be great to. Yes. Yeah, the I hope so inch Sheffield has been inquiry advanced manufacturing park, which is kind of a world leader in that kind of thing. Sheppard is also. I think I'm Ray saying the before of a better word poorest. Major city is the poorest of the core cities in the UK. What's going on there, then how's it going? It's amazing manufacturing. Why not feeding into kind of a wealth full of people Sheffield, lots of great question? You're not exactly why we decided to have a look at this piece, because we thought that much going on here because it doesn't seem to know those two narrow seem to clash against each year that saw Sheffield has got the advanced manufacturing park on it in particular. It's got something called the advanced manufacturing research centre now, people in policy get very excited about this. Because what we've seen is that big companies, I Boeing Rolls, Royce and more. Recent McLaren of all invested in the partner located there. So it's what's going on you. This is a great thing was trying to get an elsewhere, and all of a sudden we're seeing advanced manufacturing parks popular across the country, who says, okay. Well, let's go into this in more detail. So what what is? It. Well advanced manufacturing research, and that's the key. But of it is a collaboration between the university of Sheffield under industry. And the key thing is. It's a big shed on their between Sheffield and Muslim, where they've got this open innovation model. So these big companies come in share ideas information. It's like what happens in city centres, these sharing of ideas and bits of new information? What's happening in a big shared? It's a massive son. Pit the within within you stuff. There's no plans allowed, but the companies went into spurt of good. Well, actually, we understand that, but it's, it's the value of myspace base eruption of being builder to show information and ideas and the goat with, with phantasm you innovations, and that's why the park and being very attractive to pull in these sorts of companies and has been a success as it was old. And yet as I said, Sheffield is, is not, not writhing. I mean, it's a very fine play Sheffield but it's not if you go to many of the big core cities what you often find is there these, these, like very prosperous enters. But then again. A few minutes L so you can see Stewart poverty, their Sheffield. I don't think you really so the field of prosperous city centre either. There's a lot going for it. But it does not a place is is doing particularly well right now. Why is why is the success of the manufacturing partner translate into the economic success of Sheffield? It's really interesting to so. Yes. Sheffield is definitely Porteous below its weight number of issues at city center particular performance. Well as, as the big cities, you see and occupant of a head scratcher thing in terms of thinking about why Sheffield beatable even attract in these big money factor, and firms, what is it that was offering these handful of businesses that or the places on its be able to trap them in why and the two things seem to be. It's the Auburn innovation model in the in the research and what we set of by the by the university that's a key distinguishing factor. And it's also the link with university in terms of being able to supply new graduates, on your push graduates of which grip a big of funds will, we'll know already. Role who won the won the show last year. He was a physicist missed it be businesses dot they manufacturing part where he loved the great. So he read five before we start recruiting was so to the great Baker. This is like urban economic sold was suddenly hits, hits, popular coaches amazed and violent at by drag. Well, that's the next to the expert isn't it? So stay tuned for that listeners. So what that means is other is actually despite shooting skills in the broader Sheffield city region, not being fantastic. Compared the areas the visit lease this pipeline coming from the university. Now the pipeline is small, but that's because the advanced manufacturing park is also small, so yes innovation happening. Yes. Getting lots of policy interests. Yes, is having a positive impact for Sheffield, which only around about five hundred jobs. So in the context of the broader Sheffield economy, it's very, very small. How many of them in the Sheffield city region have millions eight year? You're talking certainly seven figures into. When people out of there, so hundred jobs. No, it's, it's a drop in the ocean compared to the size of the overall Konami which impart talks to them why I think you can have these two competing narratives that you got very successful par but actually set in the context of popzette Alexis less successful economy. But the good news thing is that it will chef in house developed this, it is an engine for growth, engine to create new jobs in high-skill jobs in particular. It's on its own is not enough to turn around the Sheffield economy. That needs to be limited inventions, to which are the, the combined authority in the log authorities are thinking about release, it is a step in the right direction in house developed something, which is trying to change the structure of Sheffield's economy. Okay. So. Own talk briefly about like shampoo itself again, but let's let's stick with the manufacturing, poverty, and who's benefiting format if anything is creating these might notice and benefits, but they're not visibly maycom of Sheffield wherever they flowing to this is a Rudy important question. I think when it comes thinking about who's going to pay for it, what it means for more than national industrial strategies with which lots of people are concerned about the moment so that there are jobs in the Sheffield city. Megyn not are, you know, creating new innovations at a high paid in high-skilled. This is a good thing for the Sheffield economy. It means all of a sudden, you've got Korea. What unit is there to attract people into key people there. I'm clearly the people who've got jobs benefiting, too. But when you look at where there was an invasion of being applied, then not just been applied to Sheffield's, you know, they're being applied Rolls, Royce, for example applies from its innovations. But, but it's planning Soderlund, or some of the new innovations in which things are happening in Sheffield core. And applied in its plant and broadening in north Wales. You know, it's, it's a very much a case, particularly manufacturing worthy, new ideas created a knock whether than going to be applied, because the idea is part of the process in the money fuck you part of the process tend to be separated now from Sheffield point of view, that means that it's not catching a hundred percent of the benefit of what's going on. It's pretty capturing the best benefit, because it's the new ideas still occurring in Sheffield Marvin. So the more sort of routine just putting stuff together, whereas capture move onto percent of the benefit of the process, but that's important from a policy point of view because the question then is that this would mean that it should be the Sheffield mother-in-law authorities or Sheffield university, or the Sheffield combined footsie one hundred percent of the Bill that if the UK go move, one, sister, heaven is a good thing for the national economy. We should be encouraging. It, it also means that national government is gonna have to put some skin in the game to try to encourage them of this stuff to innovation happens in places places a dead important for this process. That wouldn't happen if we didn't have this close string of activity in one in one place, as really important for national policy recognize but it also doesn't mean that then play should the places where the Kurds she put one hundred percent of the Bill, because the spatial impact of Asia, quite spread in those strikes me the, if the real benefit of the manufacturing park is kind of a National Center of excellence. The idea of, of a cities, copying. It feels like a bit silly light. It's probably not actually you just kind of dilute benefits over the RAV and grown to over cities. I think that's fair assessment. I think that's very fair. What we've seen is a number of cities off the biopsy. What's happening in Sheffield quit their on advanced manufacturing parks, which amounts, pretty much to we've identified some land on the edge of town, where going to loosen planet regulations to get some new sheds built on here pressure, which is going to be lords of advanced manufacturing, that two things first is that you're not going to get this activity occurring every way. With very much the fact that it has to close to in particular police to get innovation. Going means it's not going to be spread out everywhere. And the second thing is, I think a lot of places probably haven't taken heed to all of wine is Sheffield has been able to capture some of these benefits. So if it's places in the grid southeast of it's somewhere in Oxfordshire, for example, then, you know, it's occurred because what is got lots of high skilled workers, and accused got a number of other high school businesses that already, particularly in more sports. So they've got a number of natural advantages that can try to police businesses in pops in places elsewhere in the couldn't you with week or Connie's. They haven't got lots of high school workers. They haven't got lots of brothers of innovated money faction businesses already located that. And they haven't also thought about what the university ungulates and this in China, get universities involved. And so then it means that there's a mutual less compelling reason for adventure, manufacturing businesses to Gordon, those weaker economies dot sweatshirt failures really broken the mall in particular, it seems like by getting university involves by. Avenues open innovation model in its in the research center being placed in its advanced manufacturing pop that's been the difference to track those types of businesses it, and Konami of the profile of Sheffield compared to Konami of the profile of many of the cities in the north of England. So just to wrap up the section as we saw the star Sheffield. I mean I get letters from Sheffield. Now I belie- shed Sheffield is punching below. Punching below its. Wait, why what's going on? There was it was it struggling compared to even visit you probably the bracket web light in leads or Newcastle. That Sheffield struggling Kunst back to a lot of what we spoke about before terms of what other benefits like different places offer if your high school business looking to stick your pin them up you looking for high school workers principally, and then what we describe a knowledge network for the high school businesses. And you say this in the center of Manchester the Senator Bernie the center of London, Lord of high service business in particular, clustering, when the central cities despite them being Louis expensive places to business. Sheffield is not currently of those benefits to the same extent as the places, and so if loses out to go to the place in terms of try and his titan investment in so what are they need to do is improve skills? Principally improve the attractiveness of the city center is a place to do business attract in those go service businesses in particular, as well as high school serves as businesses and until. It crops that and makes them more compelling. Offer them, what other places in the UK off. Then is east to struggle to a great extent. I know that policymakers Luke level offering Hilo about this are trying to put these funds and plates, but fundamentally that's why we're seeing forms of Sheffield over the last ten fifteen twenty years that we have competitive with the places in what we need to say is actually Sheffield punching above its weight in the future. Not only to people who live in the round, Sheffield would also make them bigger contribution. The national condom use. Well, is it? I mean, we show that ruled geography is in effect to hear me Sheffield is clean dove. That the thing that makes it beautiful. In the middle of the low of very fine hills. But it means quite payment Niaz to get to bed to a little over seas. It's none of the major north south or east west Ron's lens, despite that Manchester is thirty miles away, we'd take hours to get there because there's, you know, the pen in the way is that affect to do we think you look skeptical just going to repeat your spiel? Well, this is the big thing about about how north of powers real pitched itself, is it all of a sudden William Sheffield, Manchester together the book before much better. I just I'm not clear as to why, why a business would come and locate in Sheffield, because the links to Manchester, a better when we're going to fundamental challenge on skills. And if we look at particular gonna transport connections. Yes, transport connections between Sheffield and Manchester on grades would connections between Sheffield Leeds it pretty good, especially by road. It's very easy to get between the two connection between Sheffield aluminum from real perspective. It's just over two hours. Importers advertising, this sort of the time and doing not only many times, we self the corrections of the couple of very good and indeed connections to the cities in the east of England by ruining particular are pretty good too. So I'm skeptical about the argument. I really don't think it's going to be a real sort of decisive factor. In terms of why businesses would look locate arrow not. Okay. So on, on the whole thing skills, mammal and trains. Yes. That's a tragic into this week's segment. Thank you very much. Thank you. Train. False solution. Like can we get back from from where we are now to a point where we have generally decent like mechanisms to kind of regulate housing because as you as you said, it's not just social housing like some of this, some of this also applies to privately built homes. Absolutely. The solution is always in Australia for what I think what we need overseas. Some kind of long term strategy of, of government. They'll be interested in regulating. The Bill environment be interested in taking on developers, and, and the construction industry and that's not straightforward. Right. So, I think in the short-term, we gotta make a decision should local authorities be should they return to being the kind of monopoly of, of controlling regulating. The local Bill environment on on another people who are very good. You know, building inspector's he would say, no local it shouldn't be shouldn't of the monopoly. But I think we need to have some kind of. Body, locally and nationally that is independent from construction from the interests of construction that is enforcing standards and laws and regulations. So that's what we, that's what we need getting to that place. No easy because, you know, twenty years or more, where local forests have increasingly competed with more and more private contractors for building control work means. How'd you reverse that kind of situation? A how'd you how'd you Nabl or remove or reduce conflicts of interest within the systems? That's, but that's one of the things that's got to happen. Another thing again, is the idea of health and safety, and we have a health and safety executive, which is all about health and safety at work in the workplace, it's had its putsch slashed. So what does it do? Basically, now can't really investigate the kind of things that we might want the health and safety executives to vest gate quickly and urgently. We need a health and safety executive not. Just for for workplace. Incidents occupational health. We need it for residential health and safety as well. We don't have that body, which body to local with the residents Goto who can they go to if you're a worker, and you think something very dangerous up in your in your workplace you can report to the health and safety is active. If you're invested in and you see something very dangerous up tunes construction, Nelson safety executives not interested. They said, what we can't really intervene in our area of regulation trading standards conflicts of interest between trading standards on the local authorities that may well be the landlords involved in this world. So again, we got lots of conflicts of interest, we need some kind of national independent regulators type body and system that is going to cut through some of this stuff that people can go directly to think it's absolutely ridiculous residents have to go to court to fight months and years, and call to try to get their home made safe seem to be completely bombing. But this a problem here isn't there, which is like. You can't really get people excited about regulation. It's not it's just. There's more of your now. But yeah the coming alive. But like generally speaking, this is a problem in many more areas and MRs just it's much easier to get people going here. What do we want? Another bloody bureaucratic body is to go. Yes, what we wanted decent regulation of this particular sector. So how'd you use of win more political debate? Well, I think the debate in a way is, is being one of this spin since grandfather, and Grenfell was, you know, we don't wanna tragedy to, to actually bring about some kind of change. You don't want it to have to be like that. But I still think that we're in. We're in a appear to time we're in a moment where, what Grenfell done is brought out, thousands and thousands of people into into into housing struggles and struggles I for housing Justice across the country, there's no doubt about sir. All those groups that used to be kind of like mumbling wind and not get anywhere. They've been empowered by the fact that now you have to listen to. People what they're saying. You can't just push it under the carpet. So there are lots more people involved in housing politics now than there were a few years ago. There has been an absolute explosion of groups, lease whole campaigns tenant campaigns. This the rise of acorn taking on the the private landlords. You've got generation Ren, which is doing good work as well. You've got all kinds of like new campaigns for council housing, this loads of loads of activism now and I think, I, I was thinking about, how'd you create the umbrella structures to bring those different groups together to be in the -ffective political voice. I know there's a big fight going on for some kind of national tenants voice, which was, we had very briefly national tenants voice in, in, in the end of the labor government of two thousand eight nine ten, there was abolished by conservatives, that's been no effective representation of tenants of the national level, since then there's real efforts to try to get that back on the problems of courses at the house and sociation set to is now dominant and social housing and is being. Identified named and shamed. All kinds of practices that we saw Grenfell so it and they don't necessarily want their residents to be very empowered on these issues. So obviously, there's a there's a pushback on that. But I'm quite hopeful that, you know labor the labor pie for whatever else is going on with the pipe moment is handled in policies are Stein to move in the direction and the gain momentum on and they've moved they've really moved to the left. I mean you know you look to labor pie manifesto under at Miller band, and you compare it to the last one, and you compared it then to the social housing Green Paper that they produced and their latest announcements, you know, then move it, the move in every announcement is moving, and they're doing that because they're seeing that there's actually a big political pressure going on the grassroots level in constituencies across the country for folks just a completely different way of looking at housing. We should be wrapping up, but eulogised very quickly. Tell us a little bit about the book. Yeah. People might be able to get it. Yeah. So how can they get it? Well, the can they can go on the monthly university press website, and the confined, it their book, miscall savers houses, and basically what I'm trying to do that. Book is make the links between Grenfell all of the revelations that came about how the residents tree it and different regeneration schemes particularly in London. Don't under this kind of model of self regulation, which was PFI those a particular model of regeneration was used. And again, just show how everything that was present at Grenfell is present in every single regeneration scheme. The residents go through. They get the same accountability vacuum. When the trying to seek redress the call nowhere to go. There's no regulation body that they can appeal to that. The court processes are incredibly difficult to deal with it talked about the profiteering that gets this. That goes on in these schemes the amount finances, being effectively extracted from the public purse and is off shored into taxations from the from the ultimate owners of some of these PFI. As it also tries to set out some kind of gender for, for change, which really ultimately boils down to we need policies. We need we need. We need governments are interested in the commodification of house. We've got a very carefully take how speculation from Hauser. We've gotta go to somehow think of housing, as a social service again, a not as an asset. So be speculated on. And, you know, if we can go anywhere near to that kind of agenda, then again, I just I think that in the future things like Renfrew just were apple Stewart. Thank you very much. Thank you. You've been listening to skylines the podcast from symmetric the new statesman city site. Presented recruited by me, John edge, and produced by Nick Hilton, you can find skylines every two weeks on ITN's Acosta or whatever-ever app. Used to get you your cost Moyal there. Why don't leave us a nice review to tell other people it really helps people discover the show and on the Negline maniac? So the more people can get listen to this Beverley who see in two weeks. Thanks for listening. Brooklyn registry.

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Episode 4: Winds of Change

The Bobby Bones Show

13:19 min | 6 months ago

Episode 4: Winds of Change

"This on the job this season we're speaking with folks who are finding their professional stride in a tumultuous job market and learning how to double down on their skills and their experience to overcome challenges. We'll bring you inspiring stories of people making themselves essential and important skill set in any economy. Will millions of jobs have been put on hold in the wake of cove. Nineteen many jobs in the energy sector have remained all over the planet. There are people on the ground who continue to work day in and day out to make sure that the world keeps running. I spoke to one of those workers in Vermont wind turbines line the mountainsides and power homes all across the state. K., opening video from GOPRO. In a machine room. Going up latter. Usually when of interviewed people about their work, I get to go on site and talk to them in their environment, but since the pandemic was in full swing I got to see this environment through a gopro video. Wow we are on top of the turban. Cooking in a harness. I will say I'm pretty happy to not be recording on top of a wind turbine that is literally above the clouds in this video. Oh my God. My stomach just got cousy. He's looking down the turban. And the clouds are passing underneath. Oh my God! I feel like for people who haven't like walked up to a turban. Realize how big they are! That's that's the first thing you everybody first instance like. Yeah they look that big on the highway? All the highways a few miles away. This Jim Jim slicer site manager for the Sheffield win former In case you're unfamiliar, the wind turbines. Jim Overseas are the tall white turbans. You might have seen a long coastline or in a valley, Jim Overseas sixteen turbans in the rural town of Sheffield, Vermont not far from the Canadian border how taller the turbans that you work on the tower height is an eighty meter tower, so about two hundred seventy feet, yeah, and then when the blades pointing straight up that blades about foreign twenty. Wow and in order to do maintenance. You're going to the top correct. Oh you can see the other turbans. Wow, they're just poking above the clouds. Clouds and the big white turban spinning in the distance. Really Majestic, they are. Adding their beautiful me. Allow people to say you know it's ruined. The view of months US landscape and I get more to come up here. Say I just think they're beautiful. Look up at. I think the great. That is absolutely crazy. Here we have sixteen Germans who make forty megawatts, which is now for fourteen to sixteen thousand homes. Pretty much generate enough power of the entire Kingdom of. Basically just a few Lakers of land that have been used. The way wind. Turbine works is pretty simple. The wind blows the three rotor blades spin, and that gets converted into Electricity Oh. Yeah, at ten months win. These things are making POW, and my twenty to twenty five mile an hour, windsor, Max for news. Clean. Renewable Energy has definitely been politicized over the years. There are plenty of people who say that moving towards green energy like wind and solar is taking away jobs from work in fossil fuels. It's just opening up a whole new workforce and swim the fastest growing careers out there and a great thing Ford is it's let's blue-collar Jefferson's nap to have a college degree, mechanical, electrical knowledge, or background or anything like that you can get your foot bar and. Perform this job. I asked Jim what a standard workday looks for him, but he says that that's not really a thing for this job, and that's one of these I like about. This job is never the same job every day. You're not going in the car new same thing. Jim Has a team of three people, and besides maintenance on anything to sixteen individual turbans need their tasks changed fundamentally based on Vermont's intense seasons. All the say that when you're working job that depends on the weather. It really gives you on your toes. Standard isn't really word. Jim Groping cranberry Vermont. He was an outdoorsy kid, a very similar upbringings in my own Vermont fishing riding bikes all summer with friends. We played a lot of sports. He later ended up joining the military and went into the air force, doing flight testing, developing and testing our nation's bombers and their weapons. That's wild. Differ favorite plane. Still say my my love is the B. One bomber s been lot time without one of its quite a negative Sydney's. After the military, he worked very different contractors. He did rate our operation and testing for special OPS aircrafts. And then he did a stint at Boeing in California. He was living into hatch P., where there are thousands of wind turbines, and it really piqued his interest. Definitely I'm one hundred percent. Renewable Energy to get away from fossil fuels, not just interpret solar. All those things. That think it's really neat thing, and then no more three hundred feet off the ground. Generate this power just from the wind. Still. He kept working on planes. He and his wife eventually moved back to Vermont where he was working at the Burlington airport as technician. Three years in he saw a wind farm was being built in nearby Sheffield, and was looking for good tax. After twenty five years of working in aviation, he decided to weighs options. Here's pretty comparable. Hope not scared of Heights. I hadn't been before. It is I. Guess I'll find out doing this. Job. For two years of age. More Jim Story after the break. A strong work ethic. Takes Pride in a job well dime. Sweats over the details. This is the kind of person you need. Express employment professionals can help finding the best people requires more than sorting through applications. You need to conduct a thorough search. Express understands what it takes to hire the right person. It takes real. People. Real interviews. Discovering the talents you need. We find good people. Matching their skills with the right jobs. At Express. We find people for jobs in companies of all sizes and industries from the production floor to the front office. Sometimes finding the best new employees really is about who you know. Express jobs. Get to know. Express go to expresspros DOT COM to find a location near you. Jim became site manager for the Sheffield Wind Farm in two thousand fourteen. He loved showing off the site, giving tours to schools and terrorists. He especially likes explaining everything. The farm offers to people, critical, green energy or people who might think that the turbans detract from the landscape, the majority of the people that you take up. There are usually fifty fifty on the fence. They're not really sure. I like these or do i. not like these you. Like best when you see that white ball finally click on like. I get it. Yes, these a lot of sense I really like these. In rural communities like this all over the country wind energy has been insanely beneficial over the last few decades. Jim and I both grew up in communities like Sheffield. Where a lot of multigenerational farms are doing everything, they can to hold on in a rapidly developing world. There's a lot of hesitation to give up and sell land to developers and places like this, because a lot of times that means giving up cultural values and making way for newcomers who don't really care about the area. Wind. Turbines haven't popping up all over these rural communities and allowing for economical development without all the unwanted change that usually comes with it. Farmers who have ample land can invest in a wind turbine that will interfere with their crops and will be a consistent source of income that they can use or sell. Some farmers can even make up to fifteen thousand to twenty thousand dollars a year off of one turban, precious capital that they wouldn't otherwise have. Schools have huge tax incentives to host wind turbines, allowing them to upgrade facilities and get kids the resources that they need and in rural communities like this where those are specifically the problems that had the hardest wind energy is often a perfect solution that will keep on giving as long as the wind keeps blowing. As towns like Sheffield get on board with wind energy, all of the US. The growth of this industry continues to be a major job creator right now over one hundred twenty thousand workers now have wind powered careers, and with more turbans, being built that means more factory work to build them. All this rapid development has made the occupation of wind turbine technician, one of the two fastest growing jobs in the entire US along with solar installer. On top of that America's veterans play an important role in creating this highly skilled workforce, the US wind industry employs veterans at a rate sixty one percent above the national average, providing good opportunities for men and women who serve our country when they leave active duty. All this to say, wind energy has proven a stable source of prosperity in plays that tend to get left behind as the world moves forward as one farming couple in Washington state said about their turbans as long as they're turning were earning. For Jim, the wind farm in Sheffield not only accomplishes all of this, but it also creates a sort of modern ecosystem between locals and wildlife. The entire property is a protected bear habitat wildlife up here. We have bears we lose. We have year with everything up here. You know it's a par. The town also gets paid a lot of money each year to host the wind farm that money goes a long way and getting resources. The town really needs like equipment for fixing roads power lines. These sixteen wind turbines do all this while cooperating with the natural landscape that has long define the culture here. I'm proud of what we do is a good feeling for us. Burlington Vermont is hundred percent renewable the city? And the power we producer, they actually purchased power from us, so we're part of that renewable portfolio. They have to have bragging rights to have their city one hundred percent renewable. Not only did BURLINGTON Vermont reach its goal of being a one hundred percent renewable in two thousand fourteen. That was the first city in the entire. United States to do so. Jim Gets to be a part of that. Talking to Jim that's a feeling you get that not only. Does he get to do a job? That pays well a job that he's great at, but it's also a job that sincerely contribute to a more sustainable future. Do. You like your job I love. Early. I think it's different every day daily. Four o'clock already going on. How do you feel when on top turban one time a year? January, when it's twenty below in the wind's blowing I. Think it's the worst damn place in the world. I don't want to be there. Take a nice summer day. That's like seventy five eighty degrees in a light breeze. You can go sit up on top of the cell and have your lunch Davos gorgeous view. You're on top of the world. There really is. From the job I noticed gray. Thanks for listening to on the job brought to you by express employment professionals. This season of on the job is produced by. Red seat ventures the episodes were written and produced by me Otis Gray. Our executive producer is sandy small ones. The show was mixed by Matt Noble for Ideation Studios at the loft in Bronxville New York. Music by Buddha sessions. Find us on iheartradio and apple podcasts. If you liked what you heard, please consider rating and reviewing show on apple, podcasts or wherever you listen. We'll see you next time for more inspiring stories about making yourself essential as you discover your life's work. ICHEON.

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MFM Minisode 171

My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark

23:40 min | 8 months ago

MFM Minisode 171

"This is exactly right. Hello Oh come to my favorite murder. The MINNIE's owed are you ready. Are you ready? Let's get started? Oh okay let's just do it. Let's okay we're gonNA cut you clap. Clap you WANNA go first sure this starts. Hello Corn Queens adorable pets and Stephen in Parentheses your doorbell to back. When I was in college I was home one night and I turned on the news to see a story of a young college female who a- fought off an intruder with a sword as as he assaulted her. I normally don't watch the local news and I remember thinking. Wow you go girl and thinking that she was a total bad ass who amidst fear decided to fight back. The next day I went in Nice and early to begin my shift. A host at a popular chain restaurant friend. Who hosted alongside me came in a bit late and frazzled. I'm so tired I complained to her. As I began to recount my previous day. I'm tired too. She sailed someone broke into my house last night. I ended up beating up chasing him off with my dad's sword. Oh my God. My mouth fell open. That was you. I saw your story on the news so she began her harrowing story in the middle of the night. She had woken up to pressure on her chest. And the smell of cigarette smoke move and I'll stab you. Voice said in the darkness. She could make out the shape of a man holding her down with one hand and holding a syringe has other. He instructed her to remove her clothes as he removed his shirt and lowered his pants. He began to assaulter as she laid there. A million thoughts began to run through her mind. Is this really happening? Do I die like this. But what reverberated through her head and stood out to her or two simple words fuck no. She looked up and saw her father's sword hanging on the wall above her bed. Her father a trained martial artist had given her one of his swords year prior and she had hung it up as decoration in her room. In one quick decision she kicked her attacker jumped up grabbed the sword and began to beat him with it. He reached out to grab the blade and she drew the sword down slicing open his hand as he gripped it. He began to back out of a room. She continued to hit him in the scuffle. She was stabbed by his needle on her hand. She was able to beat him out of her house. And down the street she naked and he with his pants down at his ankles and bleeding from his hand before running back into her house to call nine one one right within a few hours. The police were able to find the man and made an arrest. Apparently he had been stalking her home for a few days looking into her windows and waited for when he seemed to know her roommate's would be out of town. He had snuck into her house earlier that day when no one was at home went into their attic and waited for her to come home and fall asleep. What A CREEP. Holy couldn't hit yeah. I couldn't believe that here. She was telling me the story about why she was tired. Wouldn't amazing strong courageous person. She was this five foot five college student and her dad's sword telling this guy to fuck it. In fighter flight. She fought she did end up being tested for all the things from being pricked in her hand. Negative to this day she still gets minor. Ptsd from smelling cigarette smoke and But she's a bad acid. Made a beautiful I for self. He went to jail. And I'll never forget her courage in the face of one of the scariest things. A woman can face stay sexy. Hang Your swords. Always check your attic. Cj all my And I'm like I have chills unbelievable. What a bad ass. I love it so much. It's so good. Swath swords sorts. Also everything about like. That attack is scary enough. Yeah the the idea that someone's holding a syringe and you don't know what's in it can't be good. No cannot vitamin B. and you're not Liza Minelli that's crazy. Meaning Okay Go. This is a nineteen eighteen. Spanish flu story. Hello friends. This crazy. Pandemic has reminded me of a story that is at once totally integral to my family. History and at the same time is rarely brought up in conversation because it is rarely discussed. I'm sure that I will get a few of the details wrong so please forgive me for that. We do forgiven in one thousand nine hundred and the Spanish flu hit hard. At least seventy million people died worldwide. It was of course crazy and awful. Naturally our current crappy situation made me think about a lot of things change but some things don't anyway in one thousand nine hundred thousand. My grandfather was an infant and his parents brought him to Mobile Alabama to visit friends and introduce them to the baby while they were visiting tragedy struck and the people they were visiting names unknown and my great grandparents names also a known all died very suddenly from this awful flu. Oh my God. Before they died they gave the baby my grandfather to a neighbor to try to keep him safe. Stay safe and he did not get sick. Here's where it gets wild. The neighbor who took my grandfather and didn't know his name his parents names or where they were from. Or even the neighbors which is pretty damn weird for Alabama. We usually all know each other since it was nine thousand eighteen. There were no social services. There was no way to locate any family etc so my adopted great-grandma Mrs Sheffield. Did what any amazing lady would do. She kept the kid she named him. Joseph Sheffield and raised him as her own along with her other kids. My grandfather had no idea about any of this until he was sixteen and needed his birth certificate. At which point my great grandmother had to fess up and tell him the whole story. It's crazy to think about the twists and turns of fate. If his parents hadn't come to visit their friends if they hadn't had the foresight to give him to the neighbor. My life would be totally different or more likely. I wouldn't exist at all. My grandfather stayed in Mobile Alabama married and raise three sons and a daughter. I am the daughter of his youngest son to this day. We have no idea where my grandfather was from or what his birth name was. My last name is Sheffield as it should be. But whatever my grandfather's birth name first and last was it's lost a history. Thanks for everything you do. This podcast has changed my life in more ways than you'll ever know if you choose to read this please use my name in honor of my great grandma there a bad ass lady who was almost definitely the reason. I'm here today. Exo EXO Sarah Sheffield. Oh Nice that touching yeah guide gone twenty three and me and find those relatives but what about like what a crazy situation where it's like. We all have this terrible flu. Can you take the baby next door neighbor area? Not Next of kin or family or or anything. It's just like whoever's closest that's how bad it was probably. I was probably this split second. I can tell him getting sick like thinking. It's going to be temporary. Just take the baby while we're sick and then it wasn't temporary now it was not no Okay all right. This one has no subject line It just starts obviously love you guys. Thank you for helping me except and begin to tackle my anxiety. That's all there's no there's no hello Just straight into like look. We know this is a give and also this okay. So my dad has the worst and most hilarious luck ranging. From that time he went to get out of my bedroom and ended up accidentally letting another bat into a baseball bat. Oh and then he says I grew up in the countryside of England God that's fucking like get the bat out now. Here comes the second best or your dad is a vampire so your dad is a delicious mango. That bats love to eat. I don't eat okay. So basically she said from that time about the bats to when the bomb squad was called. Because he was quote parked suspiciously in a car park but the most amazing thing that ever happened to him was when he was arrested for carjacking. Spoilers he didn't do it. Thank you spoilers plural. He didn't do it. Let's get into it so my dad used to run a weed control business which I had to read three times weed control. That's beard. He's in the he's mcgruff. The Crime British is. He's okay he ran a week andro business and he was sat in his van with the dog on his lunch break. When a police car pulled up an officer gets out and tells my dad that there's been an attempted carjacking in the next village over and my dad mind coming over for a lineup. When my dad gets to the lineup he looks to his left. And right and suddenly has an uh-huh moment he was the only person in the drive-by lineup. The car owner drove by and said yes. My Dad was the guy that tried to steal their car. The next six hours of my dad's life became a bitten saying he was bundled into the back of a police. Car are sweet. Dog was put into the Police Kennels and my dad was processed and put into holding and finally they got around to interviewing him. The interaction went something like this. Sir You match the description of a carjacking and have been identified as the suspect. The description is of an unshaven man. Approximately five foot nine in his mid to late thirties. Which my dad replied. Well I'm six foot two in my mid forties but I'll give you one out of three. Yes after Dad Right. After a bit more back and forth the police officer begins to get annoyed and sternly says. Sir I need you to understand how much trouble you're in. The suspect stopped the car with both hands and we have a full set of ten fingerprints. At this point my dad begins to laugh control. Ably what like this? My Dad says he holds up his hands. My Dad only has nine fingers. Oh my God. He lost one years back in a work related accident. The interview ended pretty swiftly after that and my dad was released with no charge. Oh my God. My Dad is absolutely one of my best. Friends has always used his loss of digit to his advantage. Mostly for good humor often quickly removing his hand from closing freezer doors and the supermarket to look at the person next to him in shout. What have you done dad? Dad Jokes what have you done? Has He brandishes his four fingered hand but this is the only time. His lack of a finger has proven his innocence. Thank you for bringing light into my long commutes. Stay sexy and remember sometimes nine fingers. All you need no-name that was great but yeah. I love how good that joke story and also just thank God that it turned out that way because you how many stories do we know of of There's no laugh. There's no missing finger simplicity. There's no jog. And then that person spends forty years in jail. There's no dog Dawson. Saddest of all and the saddest part. There's no dog okay. This is like those dogs though friends. Look up with your comb. George George is she mad yes. She's fine okay. This is called. Lock your windows. Hi a while ago. Maybe a year who the fuck knows with self-isolation for rightist. I know you guys were two story where someone broke into a house through a second story window and it reminded me of a story. I've been sitting on for years one night after glasses of wine. My mom casually told me about this incident from when she was a teenager in the seventies when she was living with her mom in Oklahoma. My Mom's room was on the second floor and had a window at the same level as her neighbors. So you can look across and see into each others rooms. You get the idea. I do one day. She was doing homework at her desk. Which is against the opposite wall from the window when the phone rang it was her sweet old lady neighbor on the other and told my mom. Katie dear try to stay calm but there's a man on a ladder watching you through your window trying to stay home. Cavalier Katy Dear. I know this might be the first time you've dealt with this not mine anyway. Now known stand up screaming. My mom somehow managed to keep from losing her shit and calmly got up looking behind her and walked down the hall to my. Grandma's revenue inform her of the situation. My grandma quickly called the police. But that creepy motherfucker booked it before the cops got there and then to go. Check out the ladder. He left behind in his haste. They also found all caps a fucking butcher knife next to it. Oh that's an ominous S. Not Funny Anymore. No that's how this show always goes out light laughs. Oh can you believe this and then boom that's right? I never see it coming. No sadly they never caught this guy but he didn't come back after that day as if this weren't already creepy enough after the whole tobacco was over my grandmother and for my mom that she had found other items beneath her window over the past few weeks such as polaroid pictures of her and flowers but was told by the police that nothing could be done without threat being made. Sorry a ladder up to a teenage girls. Window is a threat. The nights the threat you pay being peeping Tom being step one in usually a sexual assaults situation yeah that would be a threat but this is also what year was. This is probably in the seventy in Oklahoma. Oh right right okay. Yeah so that was back when peeping? Toms are hilarious. They're like Gretz normal. Everyone does it. Oh boys will be. Boys are Nice exactly Of course I had a million other questions like what other treasures the do left behind. But my mom was. My Mama has refused to talk about the whole thing since at least now. I understand why she's always so paranoid about locking the doors and windows and closing all the blinds at night. He think you're safe on the second. At least I do on the second floor but ladders exist we gotta get rid of Ladders Guy Ladies Fan Ladders to sign our petition. Thank you for being awesome. Humans and supporting the mental mental health field by normalizing seeing therapists. Eye an associate marriage and family therapists specializing in trauma with the goal to one day. Have my own practice working with first responders because as we all know this population see some messed up shit and need slash deserves so much support. Stay sexy and lock all your windows. Yeah wow I mean who needs fresh air? I lock your windows. But then also don't be afraid to put that shape down. Yeah that's really the 'cause I mean like yes. Window should kinda remain locked right. I should pull it apart advice. We give it. 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I took care and Georgia's advice and use my quarantine induced free time Corinthian induced Hornet teen induced. Free time to ask my parents their hometowns and boy did my mom and dad deliver. That's so smart. Yeah ask your parents for. There's if you don't have one of your own okay Lovett. While they had some real gems this story was the most lighthearted and perfect for a pandemic. My mom's cousins Cheryl I have a cousin Cheryl My Mom's hasn't Cheryl worked at a Rural Idaho. Convenience store in the seventies. She was manning the cash register alone one night when a guy came in and started skulking around the store so threatening yet it's like it's like shifty eyes and your shoulders are up a little bit. Yeah you're a greasy. There's a grease element. He eventually approached her and asked her for a can of peaches that was behind the counter and then in parentheses I guess. They kept the canned fruit by the cigarettes in those days. That is super hilariously weird. She turned to get the peaches and when she turned back around this. Perv had his penis displayed on the counter. Something about laying pianist. Surface is so gross. That's gets you and both ways because you don't WanNa see the peanuts and you don't like the germs that will eventually beyond that peanuts totally convenience store counter. It's also almost jewelry store like like showing I hate it. I hate to pull out your jeweler's Loup and look at the penis I want to and then you're like that's not a diamond. I was promised Giacaman With near-superhuman reaction speed. She slammed the can down on his junk. There was right. There was some disagreement between my parents about the size of the can but as Mormons love our bulk. Food storage so. I like to imagine a giant seven pound us. Mormons love our bulk foods. We learned much such a good little tidbits factoid. 's Okay. He passed out giving Cheryl Times a call for help. Yeah he passed out. That's how bad that was for him. Hell Yeah don't put it up there if you can't handle big can on it The first responders arrived. She was giving her statement to the cops while the paramedics loaded creepy bastard onto a Gurney when she got the part about the peaches the EMT started laughing so hard that they dropped the Gurney and broke creepy bastards arm. My God that's hilarious. I know you'll love story where the PERP gets his. Just deserts so I hope. This story brighten your day during. What's otherwise a dark weird time? It did your stay sexy. Hoard canned fruit instead of toilet paper. Rachelle only idea of this Mormon girl who's like probably absence seeing a pianist before and just new to react like that immediately. Incentives Yaish I love it smash it well and also. It's like you know if he was a sculptor the vibes. Were you know she knew something was about to happen? And so like just like whether it was a place to knife on the counter or a note that said give me all your money or his own penis she was GonNa Smash it with a can. That was her reaction that thank God. Thank God it was number three your shell. That was amazing. Thank you so much Rachelle. Love it Levin Rena Smash Story well any more stories come on the Adler we laugh we love and we learn what's right This is not a murder story but at meet cute since you asked for them it says right. We did shortly before the pandemic took over all the things. I had a dream about someone. I hadn't talked to probably five or more years. He and I had a brief fling back in the day but neither of us were in place emotionally the let it be anything more than that after the stream. I felt an extreme nagging sensation that I needed to reach out to him and see what was up and how he'd been. It took me almost a week to mull it over and decide to send a message but I did. He answered immediately began catching up. Two weeks later were facebook official. And honestly I'm still in shock and awe brothers high school best friend. Hey girl and the Hannah friend of the family. And I can't help feel like my mom who passed away three years ago heard my heartache over numerous unhealthy relationships and nudged me in this direction wanting socks. But we're making it and honestly I think I might be losing my mind if we hadn't met at the time we did. Stay sexy and follow your dreams question. Mark Eight Oh. I love that. Kill me quarantine. I have gotten texts from people that I don't normally talk to that. I think we would normally feel weird texting each other because it'd be like I'm not trying to. I'm not trying to get a hold of you. I think that might be an LA thing of like. I'm not asking you for anything. I'm just saying hi. I don't have time for lunch or coffee. I just want to check and see how you are. That's weird an enormous day. 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Liverpool Shine vs Sheffield

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40:04 min | 11 months ago

Liverpool Shine vs Sheffield

"Welcoming solicitation of ESPN ESPN. Thomas Shirt Robson Stevie Nikko. In Dot will be with US shoney's the kick things off in the primarily Liverpool take on Sheffield United Liverpool came up trumps flying in this game Van Dyke to Robinson plays into siler live live will make it one now after just four minutes second early on in the second half Salah with beautiful. Possibly veto is excellent ball through Samana. Who would make two new to livable? Looking what victory means thirteen points separate Lipponen less the city and the top of the table plus Liverpool have got a game in hand. Twenty Games two points. Today wasn't one of those this gains why you could say oh. They were lucky things when their way they played. I just like champions elect today on a different level and planet different style of football to anybody the else the I've seen in Europe because we see a lot of possession football Liverpool on front and back giving the ball away because they wanna play boys over the top. They WANNA play forward. You Got Ford runners even when molly plays that border son. Stevie said what a pass is from from salad most players will be looking backwards. He's trying to put it through the eye of the needle. Eighty two and he finds it. The passing Alexander around the pass in from Robertson. The passing Van Dyke for the first. Yes the right wingback falls overboard up but it still a forward pass and a four would run and that's what liberal do better than any other side. I've seen throughout Europe over the last two years. Do you know what what we've seen today. Unless Cutler weeks weeks it Kinda makes a mockery of clock complaining about the Finger Paola. If nothing else I think the pool have been doing things acquit code and a man of peace and the last the full weeks previously. So I mean. Where's the ceiling for this team? Quite honestly it must be so fun. You experienced appearances for Liverpool. Imagine Guard to Trainings Fund. These sort of games on just everything clicking everybody on the same page we think the key he is. You're actually not thinking everything's common naturally. Everybody's not actually tune with each other. You know as I said. They seem to begin quicker in quaker. Karen I'm wondering if changes he's not just rotating the team plan the same similar to the players all the time so the understand what's required of them. They've gotten understand with each other by now. What is going to be played what runs going to be made? It's been brilliant from. Let's bring kids go on you step on the field you know you must be a nice feeling loved you know man. I would never come in dogs. The shows wish you happy New Year Dark Live poll continuing to make fans very a happy in twenty twenty. Yeah happy new year to everybody there as well. Yeah They're just such a finely honed machine and I I remember Yoga Club last season calling calling them his mentality monsters and and I think that's what they are they even if I have a slight off day. They still seem to win with something to spare. And it's a fabulous statement. I think before long. We're going to be asking the question. Is this the best team ever in the history of the Premier League and think about the Champions League. Who's GonNa stop the winning the champions Champions League as well unless they hit some kind of office in the in the primarily? Because I think they're gonNA have a one by maybe late March and you can tweet your question into extra-time in like everybody else This is a sign. Eleven of course Robertson on the left. You you've got Alexandra we're on the right. And you look at the top assists. I I lost the seasons Alexander honored and Robertson. Why does that work so well? Why are they so effective going forward and why is it so difficult for teams to contain them? Sure well because you got a front three whose movement is an absolutely exceptional to give your basically a lane and midfield players who looking over the Over the shoulder to see where the front and if I deliver full of so much possession because of the middle of the field the swale how those three in the middle to get the bowl not just three but particularly the two guys and they have time to pick the head up and pick players out and pick posses out and she'll why you've seen you got the quality that half right you still have to have the quality but they've got so much time in space depict policies. Oh not just because of the ability but the front as far as movements consume how difficult is it to emulate for example coach watching Liverpool. I'm like right. I want to play like them. Well you need debate the puzzle. You know you you you again. You need the movement of the fun. Three let's look at Manchester United. The problem with them away from home the movements not good you can't see that about livable. Show so everything behind falls into place you could be in the medal and then you get to white guys whose left and right foot vic and they can stick stickball in to a degree maybe half a yard either way but then sit down so the movement of the Ypres. That's what gives the full backspace because not an outside right. He's an inside right. That keeps making. He takes the fullback even within the Senate House. Not sure whether it's money does exactly the same on the other side. So when they get the Switzer play it leaves acres of Space Alexander Arnold to break into and Sheffield united plagued with a backfire today. Not with a back. Three and two wing backs pushing on so many Switzer play. Alexandra honest Tom on the ball. Robertson's Tom on the ball to whip bozen. I Love I love people. She must be what we are. We're playing against us because defensively you cannot stick doc. People have tried to put Marcus on the toolbox but that means acres based on the medal will the front fees to kill you so any course what they saw as is going to keep things tight and then when it goes way you get quick as you can't. Unfortunately he into gains these stop. The formats getting forties is the only coach. That's really stopped liberal plan and he played with a strange system. It was almost a lopsided back three with the fullbacks pushing on and they stopped Alexandra on Robertson getting the ball but he's the only coach to do that. We might see the weekend. Fans of course reveling in all of this Manchester United fans. Not so much because not only do they see that but arrivals front title. They've got their own problems at the moment particularly with Pope and now this is what you have to say about his absence from the start against Bernie pulls two games now where he's been involved became the bench both so he's been out for a long time so I wasn't. It wasn't the right time to bring in in today. Now that was on December the twenty eighth after that we have the MEENA RYO quotes throws coming out and saying pump is properly mismatched united. It's a cop out of touch with reality and without exporting project. I wouldn't take anyone there. They would even ruin Maradona `Maradona. Pele Amal Dini Pony to club and a squad one like you vents as well as but for now this is what song shot say yesterday off. Today's Today's quotes from saying three four weeks ago about how he's GonNa be out folk. Let's see he's been advised to have an operation by his people. He'll oh probably do that. In what do you think well. It's been an unhappy marriage. I think more or less from the stuff. Isn't it between Pool Poker and and Manchester United United. He hasn't performed at the kind of levels that not just united would've expected all anyone who saw him play. The World Cup would have expected and as RYO or Manchester United without without. I think he's in the divorce court isn't that doesn't seem to be any relationship there. I think United I've got a maybe just cut their losses on this and look at it and say is this guy really contributing and pulling in the direction we want the club to go in and I think the answer to that has to be no and if I was pulled poke really ought be thinking now about sucking rioters. My agent. January transfer window is well and truly open. You can catch up today with all. The latest goings on over on the websites. This volume was introduced in the premier league this season. It's caused quite a debate. This dog had to say regarding offside its backing of August okay. Declared daylight outside aid can't be implemented soon enough pretty sure it will be talking tweet you back then maybe it will be in. Listen the back page of the time. Suggesting there's new pressure overhaul of the offside law to introduce this daylight description in it was efren. Of course who is the president's mind said I don't think the tolerance of one or two cents side for example is enough. We will propose a change to fat suggestion as obviously the the line is too thin that it's too accurate if you make little thicker thicker than that will make it easier. Full Lavar to make the decision and this was something that was asked about than me manages meeting in Neil Geneva we spoke about and we came up with an idea that just make align thicker so this this kind of touching that means that I think for me plus I didn't think one through but hopefully other people did that but for me it plus gave to give us a little bit of football back I think the thick align with the only clear or your tolerance so in and go all have to adjust through that adapt to that and for defensive lines is important for offensive. There's a bit more space so I would like that. Why do you stand on and all of this? How would you fix it? Well I think what we've been watching is faintly farcical. Recently some of the decisions I think of the Norwich go the got disallowed against Tottenham mm-hmm the Aston Villa one the other night against Burnley very very stupid flying in the face I think of what the fans perceive is just as neutral perceive perceive. As justice there's not a a tribal thing I don't think as well so yup I still stick by that idea that clear daylight or something you can see with the naked. It is something you don't need to measure it. Millimeters over the prison or a slide rule. Look at it with the naked eye. If you can't determine that you you can't see see is off side with the naked eye. Well it's level and should count as onside. Because I think was happening at the moment is wrong. It must be wrong when all the fans are chanting things like this is not football anymore. Stephen should different. You meet the lane. Thicker was I was GonNa Change when the margin of error. Then I suppose is great and let me get straight so the fact that the technology we have no is telling you whether he's off say a roadside is not good enough for people. Is that what you telling me because I don't understand what is the way he said. CNN thing is well. We have absolutely destroyed Defend and the way. The rules have changed over. Twenty twenty-five years taken can defend the game completely. And this is another one is going to take defendant because all you're GONNA get it's teams defendant deeper and then it's just a free for all in the middle of the pocket and she's will run up one and run up. Run up the other so I mean you kind of have always for goodness sake if I can tell you that it's off say the Ron Sade than accept and and move on because if you WANNA play move rules again then forget defendant. Let's just games ten nine. Is that everybody. Well what we cut. We can't tell L. whether it's scientifically accurate because WHO's measuring at what point. The ball was last. Played that putting all kinds of lines down about the player who is deemed to be off-side but when was the ball actually loss played. If you'RE GONNA split it down to find a margin it's it's an inexact science so there are still going to be an exact excite stevie. Stevie have you been happy watching the goals that have been disallowed in the last few nights and over the festive period. Because some of them have been a false. The BENEF- Sade by is it off. Say You do not say solve Sade. They have one in billion pet is offsite. So that's fine. So why don't we accept that and get going. Well when was was the bowl last. Played exactly okay. So if you if you unless you make this unless you make this line a food wade you still go argue when the bowl was played in played and if you meet the lane yard wait as I said defenders have no option but to stop dropping wheel off off and then well what does our that. That's nonsense you will get rid of defending your show. That will be a consequence of this. I you one hundred percent. Well if I'm a defender if I've got a brain domke I'm going to give the guy because I think he's running in behind. I'm going to give him a little sliver. And then I'm I'M GONNA make sure to get back because I don't want the lanes though on the referee messing up if I know that it's daylight or you're gonNA make the line whatever white. I have no choice but to get myself goal site and not means I'm going to be deeper and deeper and deeper Depot it's it's what you have to do as a defender if they moved the goalposts Roy has got to be. I think Stevie I respect totally your opinion obviously is a top professional footballer. Footballer of the Year I haven't thought about things. He assigned all the right things. Ah If you might you bet lies it would certainly make it easy Typically you judge and I think the defense would have then you have to defend half of you know whatever it is the thickness of the line. They're not GONNA have to go two or three yards back. They go slightly further back and defend probably go side of the plastic roms. Step up the way off side but you've just said they'll have to go slightly by so recently were getting defense to drop deeper and deeper and deeper and deeper things. Go to Shuki GAM outside. Anyway everything's going towards forward players we can't tack. Would you be happy as a coach if if somebody was off side by two two millimeters. You won't be really happy with your defendants saying because that's gambling to trump playoff side if it's two millimeter. Somebody's offside surely the line is going to be a big thick hold lying Steve. Thick called line the ethical line thick. You can't argue with the consequences of that as a defender he's GonNa go deep really doesn't even even if it's just a little thick shatter by fraction action going to go deeper. That's that's my whole point about this particularly okay. So you've and you've actually. They said well we will go a little deeper so when we went this whole thing go new stall eradicate defendant note tight. Offside at the game like they do in hockey talk the defendants Israel. How would you fix stevie? Does it need fixing just quicker for me. The problem is the time it takes doc lane and shall we say them for me. It's all say the not but it shouldn't take detainment. Take up half the time that takes Ray. No then people will. I'll be fine. We're final Phil from you donkey. Anything I think this is I think that not happy with it as being applied at the moment because they think it flies in the face of natural justice and perfectly good goal is to all intents and purposes level of being disallowed and. I think you're GONNA see a change in probably quite quickly. Mark Oakton is written about it on the website whine Varas being such a problem in the premier league in its first season checking out over on the website Marino. Offense hasn't quite had the effect the Spurs are hoping for when he took over from Chino he has amassed more points per game but in fact defensively save go was In what have you made especially following the Marina. Well I can notice the difference with a low of the new manages that clubs the Tetter Nigel Pearson Spring to mind. But I don't see any difference. A tool in Tottenham Hotspur. I and I think he's got problems. I've played eleven games. They've had one clean sheet in that time and he looks to me like he's got a problem now with two of the Stella Awards of the defense over over the last few years Yan Vitton and Toby Alvar aalto. Don't look like the players they used to be. I think they've let in two or more in seven of his eleven games aims so far and of course we saw. We saw the Pantomime Villain Marino reemerging. Didn't we at Southampton after the recent charm offensive way was He was booked he was having a go at the opposing bench. He was moaning about the ball boys. He was moaning about the way Southampton won the game. So he's back to type again and I'd taught him although they've got closer now in terms of points to the top four than they were when you took over you look at them and they don't they don't convince you do they. Stay Amy every time I ask you. What's wrong with Spurs you talk about a sense of my? Is it fixable well as if you change your personnel personnel pros. It's not you've got to get rid. Yeah absolutely pass the best. We just want a new contract. Whoa go figure you know? Plus you'd be thrown you through ruined oriented rate bike. Who is going forward and right now? You're playing a kid who kind of looks a place you. You could argue that going. Forward the better on the Marino but is that just a case of dormant before protein Aleph that was inevitable. All kind of snow fans WANNA hand. I wouldn't say yet to get rid of out viral and the moment because the the choices that they've got the other to the house to played really poorly against Norwegian was taken over half time. And then you've got sensors that look. Somebody's got too many mistakes in him. and He's lost these companies company. I can dispose off the way he was going to be. Somebody could attack the ball in the as go to bid a PAC- wasn't bad on the bull but that all seems to have deserted him so it's really difficult for Marino now. He's going to work a hard with these players. Come until the end of the season and then look to maybe change it. It's a roller coaster. Ride no matter who you support in North London but frost fans the moment moment. They're on their up on top of that victory against Manchester United. Put them in the top ten nine Adrift Chelsea in Fourth. What have you made the tax fact? Okay I think he's done well so far he's been saying all the right things in terms of trying to build a few bridges with the fines and he's program that was talking about we play for you to try to make you happy and there has been a big breakdown in communication really between team and fans in recent years going back to the later stages of of the vanderveer about artists. Come there and you can see a different level of passion and intensity in that performance even when they lost against Chelsea. You can't legislate the band. Leno did in that game with seven minutes to go. They were defending well and look like they would hold on. They ended up losing the game and then neighbors intense again against Manchester United and won the game got ahead and they defended it pretty comfortably in the second half as well so they look like that going the right way better attitude but I think he's still needs a couple of players in doesn't think too if they're going to make any kind of move towards the top four probably too much to do Steve. You picked united to win this game again. I think a personnel problem arsenal defensively. You can tell well defended old owners say hello. Hello Oh you've all sees Landau and Moustapha from Norway Against Chelsea threw the ball in the back of the net is going to continue just when you least expecter and the fact that you defend against the Manchester United team who going forward away from home. They don't scare anybody they really don't make you look at look at Liverpool. Whatever the final thought by sitting when what three in the three and four different posses to play when you look among United Arsenal Gabe? They've got maybe to posses one short and one to decide you're going to break anybody. Don't ever made our snow. So I'll tilly Oslo's is a pest and they'll problem defensively also going in now I'm just going to say I mean I noticed an improvement okay. Slender evidences insist it so far but I'll tetra certainty worked some kind of change the moment now be interested to hear what stood as a keen student of everything Austin national ever a long long period that causes a former player. What do you notice a difference theory? Absolutely in terms of their organization that distances between the players is better when the bowl there was a couple of moments when they were attacking and the front four were trying to do their bit and the two central midfield players just stood their ground. That wasn't happening on the Bloomberg Bloomberg. He wasn't happy under the to fullback Scott good positions rather than being beyond the ball. They were ready just in case the ball was lost. And it's the most important thing is that distances between applies when you're defending if this to gripe the opposition can play through the moment on the Mikaela setter. They've looked far better in that area of the gun like a team. Full sleep better resurrect. If it's a better game just prediction room just reminded we'll be back tomorrow. Stevie we'll be in the studio with me. We're joined by Mark Anna Frank leboeuf bullets we can this is the third round of the FA Cup. I'm once again in the US. ESPN exclusive rights holder. We have all thirty two you might. She's lying few here on. ESPN plus some big names in action likes of city against qualifier walls against Manchester United. Less Against Wigan the pick picking Games on Saturday on Sunday Chelsea forest borough taken on Spurs and of course it's the Merseyside Darby and Monday. Old School clash off so so against Leeds. In the fact that it's done and dusted regarding the tie to England with suggests that maybe there will be more focused people taking the FA Cup little seriously this year. Yoga and Klinsmann Club. I should say thanks. He's done industrial with the title. I get your drift. They're a long way clear You'd like to see all the manages taking it very very seriously. I'm pretty old fashioned. I can remember a time when the FA Cup was the biggest thing in town on the nation stopped for the final. It isn't like that anymore and I'm afraid you're going to see too. Many premier league teams really should be having a good crack probably playing a lot of their squad. Players allies giving them a game. I don't like that at all. I'd like to see teams like wolves who got the semifinal last year and to Manchester United. Do they knocked out in the quarter-finals Russia giving it a real good go this year and Everton as well now pretty safe in the middle of the table. They've got Liverpool. What crediting Liverpool put out? Carlo Ancelotti is First Merseyside Derby. I wonder if that might shock some fun games then. I'm doing that game. I'm at Liverpool so I'm looking forward to as instead uh I'm looking forward to not put in a really strong so that Liverpool probably put some youngsters in Campbellton GonNa win that Merseyside Derby and I think it's GonNa be a tough game meters around a great side in the championship attention when you're struggling. When the manages not under pressure for his job spurs go into Middlesbrough if they lose that marine would be under even more intense pressure in his job but in in terms of people? Criticizing where it's going so that's a massive gun. I'll be shocked if you doesn't put these false team. Oh this is a guy who haunts trophies down. Yes you'll see this. This is an opportunity to win a trophy so I would expect them to have much a foster living with you. They don't those Stevie I they don't I'll bet you they play foyt the back and bring in a few of their squad plaza. I've seen it before. They think the the top four is everything making the top for their six points. It's off the top four so we'll have a little radio in charge you with marina in charge. I don't think he'll be a full-strength Tottenham. I'll tell you what going forward will because it ended a day don't matter whether you all real for MDL's the Jews not let grit. Let's take a look at how the scent who's going to win it. All three to one neighbor the spurs them at seven Chelsea Eight. y'All but agree with the fact that mentioned the city of good a good chance because we're talking about seems that want to go and win the things that the Nosey within the league now these Johnson the Champions League want to do well in the FA Cup last season and as long as like decent sides at every opportunity. I would like to see the likes of Chelsea. Even though they wanNA see probably Koshen the premier league a few years go. Can I go and win. The they're an excellent saying put everything into that as well. I think Lester will will have a mix listen. They made nine changes and beat West Ham. I'm not only they've got a strong squad even the ones that don't start all the time. So they'll they'll have a strong team. Anthony Fancy Yeah should should go. Well if Brendan Rodgers takes seriously because yeah they've got they've got a real good chance in it. I mean I love I love the Romance Dil of the FA Cup. Well I mean what a Thai for Port Vale from from the fourth tier to be going to to Manchester City. I think that's great. I mean a lot of people watching it. Maybe in different places weren't even know where Paul Viollis is the second team in stoke and great for them. I have to have a great day and who've pumping in the very unattractive drawer against another team from league one fleetwood away that we all the FA Cup hasn't got romance right the way through but that game. We'll be on. ESPN plus so there. You say puppy against Fleetwood you can check it out and of course also and plus. We've got the ailing exclusively and see Melvin City Z.. Against Western united tonight at three thirty after the winter break. Sarah returns on Sunday. They and Monday just reminded these Games available on. ESPN process Rome against Torino on ESPN news. Big matches including Napoli against into Milan and also but the twists now a Similan against Doria Zlatan Ibrahimovic as available to play in that game. It was confirmed today that he completed that free to malign from mls a lot of excitement of course about the returns as lat time for fours. Latin I'm where we had so much success success but he's coming into a team very different to the one that he left twenty one points. That's all they've got so far this season eleventh in the table they've only managed age sixteen goals in the last seventeen games to align G.. We boys in eight goals scoring go. Yeah I think he struggled so right goes has he gonNA get high up the filled Millan on a very good side at the moment. There's nobody that's willing to run beyond him. The only way he's going to score lots of goals I think millennials one is if they get high up the field get crosses into the box or get rolled into the box in and around the edge of the box you can turn players get shots Mila. Not that good aside to get the ball that hi up the field into the top third of the pitch get crosses into the box. Twenty one games remaining freycinet landing season. I set the liner eight. I'm going to. I'm going to go on as well. Well well I just always says the problem is when they're not so far out the dog he's GonNa have to get himself from one area of the field and to the penalty talks right and he doesn't have the legs to do it an Italian fashion. We're he's not GONNA defend those all random sean. Don't see how we get the goals. Meanwhile it was also also confirmed today regarding news. Italian seems Kaletsky will join us. That's next season but from now until the end of the campaign he will remain an owner loan at Palmer. It's very close. Of course the top of the table between you've an inter in fact you couldn't separate them regarding points bookies though still l. very confident that you will go on to retain that title making nine consecutive wins the robot. Where's your mommy stood conventis? I think Concerned Good job with Inter but their time struggled to play with the real fluency that he would like when they switch play up to their wing backs they look good outside when they get into the front Likud plays with these back to go much but needed at the start of the season. He's working well with Martinez. I still worry about their back three. They've got some good bless Kurnia but I think the key player is going to be best on the youngster. Every so and he's going to have to come into the side into that back three if he plays well and I think he's a good player. I think they've got the chance. But you've still the bedside from the fact that into the on the Champions League Europa League off so they can focus on the title. Will that prove a difference maker well. I'm not sure that being in Europa league initially puts out second-string get rid of get knocked out sooner and then you've got twenty one games. Twenty one finals base Shuman. Even the event is going to go away in the Champions League. We don't know that yet so they could get the next round who have got the experience who have got the understand. Who've got the the the the the know-how win titles inventors and I think they're going to do it to go against event? I'm just thinking if they get themselves. I mean and has fought season at Chelsea. That's exactly what happened. He was not involved in any competition. He gets himself this. That's the only only we can do it. I'm not ready to say yes. They will do it but as they can get themselves out of the Europa League. Yeah then absolutely liaison. Where's the weakness they feel a figure that you seeing experiencing for me? The weaknesses is in the middle of the room for what I think. If they can sign somebody from the middle of the park block the two wing box three in the middle. If you can get some of the to sit in front of two defensive midfielders I think that would help the cock you a big time and looked Ardo the one hale for events are so far this season is of course being Nazeer. Beaten them twice. They're only six points off the top spot they do have a game in hand hand. We completely disregarding them. It's not a mistake. I think it would be a mistake to completely disregard. Know exactly what they're trying to play with the threat the button McGLADE. They're winning by. They've got immobile as scoring goals. You keep running in behind you look at good side at the moment Malinkovich savage is coming back to his very best as he showed when he scored a goal. Against you've insist insist that were good side with a good manager. But I think they're just be a fraction short or the other. I think the tool when they play the big boys in the big games they leave too many any gaps and that will be the the serial podcast of course will be with you throughout twenty twenty if you want to catch up with some of the latest emphasize you you can do so via the website over on ESPN extra time obviously always available on on Youtube Channel. Where we stay late to answer some of your tweets? We got time actually just to address one now robot. Would you agree with me the outsides. It did more in two weeks with. Ask them all eight Manchester United in two weeks. He's turned the defensive side of the game. Remember early going social the brantly for a few weeks everyone smiling. Mvp Yeah they did well. They turned it round from when the Josemaria all the plasma Giroux most when he became the manager that was the real problem WHO's GonNa take which comfort I think maybe outed might take also further than only gonNA social as much united is further not that much higher at the moment but this season Laura? It's yeah so I mean they were in the fact that mentioned it so badly. Don't you know I thought talking about the both we've talked about between a commencing Q.. Who has his own little natale? Then I'm quite happy. Nothing pass along against any other say it does become Xiaogang. I would say if they losing the Cup against wolves on. I think he could be on these seriously by one game. No one guy but lots of problems That's if you're wondering about robots wise wearing that band-aid check out extra time and we'll say goodbye back tomorrow Welcome into extra-time dramatic day in the ESPN. We've had police and the ambulance in attending to share it Robson. I'm really into the the blood. There's a lot of off long from Steve Nicol Basically always on his phone did never. I didn't know you object camera. which is the one that move around on the crane more strains with blunt it was? Yeah Yeah. I didn't think he'd be W that was worried. Blood coming out of an old man's head the less less less if I'd have been protected wasn't just the best but you say this happens often when you walk in the door. You told us when you get older you know. Hey you lose sense of height you know you must know six two. Yeah I'm five eleven. I'm six foot one. Hitting the heads fairly similar tweets. Is it fair to say that will be our prime suspect. If you can clock does indeed indeed get kidnapped by this guy saying isn't over because anything can happen like alien kidnapping. Yes yes. I absolutely magnificent today in even if he gets kidnapped this they're going to win it online. I if it'd be guess kidnapped is all over. Ah The story then I mean he said hey look. 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Carrie Sheffield: Making Bold Moves

WSJ Secrets of Wealthy Women

21:35 min | 1 year ago

Carrie Sheffield: Making Bold Moves

"Are you hiring with indeed you can post a job in minutes set up screener questions than zero in on your shortlist of qualified candidates using an online dashboard get started today at indeed dot com slash W. S J that's indeed dot com slash W. S j. I'm Kerry Sheffield. I'm the founder of bold, a bipartisan digital television network on the web, we are committed to bringing the country together to in conversations that inspire and empower people. You should treat uncertainty as your friend and to not think of it as something to be avoided or something to shrink from but uncertainty is actually the condition in which you must succeed. It's not a condition that you avoid it is actually going straight into the fire because if it was easy someone would have already done it. This is secrets of wealthy women from the Wall Street Journal, helping women empower themselves financially now Veronica dagger writer and political analyst Carrie Sheffield founded her own digital news network, bold. Tv she explains how the media industry continues to be a challenge for women entrepreneurs. And how she forges ahead anyway, carry you had said as a child you grew up in poverty, would you tell us about that? Sure. So my parents are very devout religious Mormons, and they in my early childhood. Didn't think that we should have a lot of the materialistic things because the things of the spirit were so much more important. And so we lived a very transitory life. I went to seventeen public schools and homeschool in my early age in particular is when we had a really high, poverty, my parents were on welfare at one point. My brother was born in a tent when we were living in a tent in a camp ground, and it was really trying to to follow my dad's beliefs, and that's what we did. So it was a lot of chaos and a lot of interesting moments. Alright a book about it. I did that affect your view of money. I think that it because as I said, you know, the concept was that we were really supposed to speak after or seek after spiritual or spiritual riches that money was something to be almost in some ways afraid of because it was a corrosive influence that the bible says, you know, the love of money is the root of all evil. So I think there was the sense that. If you were seeking or chasing after money that you were shallow or that. You were worldly or that you didn't have up. And so I think that affected my perception earlier in my young adulthood, and I had to kind of reprogram myself to say, okay. You know, what I think money could actually be something that is used to help the world. But it's it's like anything else like a tool, it's like technology technology can be used for good or could be used for evil and to to really empower myself to see that money isn't something to be afraid of. It's just making sure that you know, who you are. And that you're using money for for good. How did you reprogram yourself sick along time? But one thing that was really helpful. For me was I got into the concept of stoicism and stoicism isn't ancient school philosophy. The teaches you that life is really about how you react to things instead of about you know, that threes like life is you know, only ten percent what happens to you in ninety percent. How you react to it. And I the more I read about stoicism in the more. I. Learned about this concept of you know, you are the master of your university or the master of your thoughts. You're the master of how you respond to the environment around you that really empowered me. So that was a big part of it. And so I would recommend not to all of your listeners. If you're looking to reprogram yourself to know there's a formula in a book that I read ABC there's an activating event there's a belief about that event. And there's a consequence about that event. And so many times people just think of the world as it's all happening to me instead of which isn't activating event, and then they have a belief about that event. And the c is the consequence or the cognitive process about that event and most people skip that be part. They don't know that they actually have a the power to change their beliefs about what's happening. They think the stimuli and their emotional response or are basically interconnected, and you don't have control over it. And so the more I understood and was able to kind of break down that formula, the more power defaults to think about money that it was something that didn't have to control me. I could control my. Response to it. You were raised Mormon than left the church. How did you get the strength to do that? So it was really hard. I wrote about my experience in the Washington Post family pressure. Just because you know, my ancestors had helped found the Mormon church, and there are lots of aspects of the church that I still admire still have lots of family who are still in it. But for me, I just felt that the concepts and the belief in the afterlife of polygamy that was that was a big sticking point for me as a woman. I just didn't think that it was inherently fair that I in the afterlife extensively could just be one of many wives to me that doesn't sound like heaven that just sounded like hell, so and I didn't even have the option to have multiple husbands. If I wanted not that I wanted them. I just thought it was inherently sexist. So that was that was a big. Thing that I didn't like what I think even more broadly than that. I had issue with the way that the church talked about it's it's history and its founder. I felt like there wasn't transparency. And there wasn't an encouragement of honest open dialogue about the church's founding. I felt that they whitewashed a lot of things that are happening in the early days. And and created these mythologies that were not given the full picture to people, and I felt and it's interesting to see that a lot of younger people. Now, you know from my millennial generation they've felt the same way when we discover things on the internet that our church leaders didn't tell us and they're true. And we we we are the library, or we, you know, you know, just do some actual research that isn't from the official tux books from the church official handbooks, there's this huge dichotomy of what the church teaches you on what the science and the historical facts are about the founding. So I just felt like in some ways I've said this before that it was almost like Richard Nixon with the the break in with Watergate that the cover up was in in some respects worse than the crime. A lot of observers say that's how I felt about Mormonism that, you know, the founder was human, but they whitewashed on a lot of his his flaws and things that he had done that were in my opinion, pretty questionable. So I just didn't like that the whitewashing of it. And so I I didn't fell like I could continue in that environment. And so also, I'm a journalistic training. I just I like to ask questions, and I think the church is trying to open up and be more transparent about it. But I just I have too many questions, and I also am not the biggest fan of of how historically they've treated LGBT Mormons. And that that upset me also about three years ago. You started the online digital network bold. How did you know you want it to be an entrepreneur? Well, I've heard a lot of entrepreneurs. Say this that it really came out of frustration with the current offerings and just wanting to fulfil a need there wasn't being met. And so for me, I didn't see a place where we had digital news conversation that was socially native that was speaking to the millennial generation and was giving messages that were outside of what was in the current offering. And the current media environments of of how just combative things can be what role. Do you think digital news networks are going to have in the overall media landscape? I think it's tough to be one of the first movers. And you know, we've seen that. I mean and even the bigger established brands see this too. It's it's that migration of advertising dollars. There's always that lag time it was the same going from radio to network to cable and just that slog of of the revenue and so. From cable than to digital and are fierce headwinds, our technology companies because that's where a lot of the the revenues going is to your Google's in your face books. And that that's a whole other ball of wax that traditional media companies didn't have to grapple with and the constant tension in some respects frenemies, or, you know, working with tech companies because they own a lot of the the pipeline of of how to reach people. How do we have leverage as as content companies? I think Rupert Murdoch has not been shy. He's very bold guy and how he's negotiated and and been very vocal about his views of how the content companies should be compensated for it. They're creating do you think the online digital networks replaced cable companies? It will probably be just a bit more. Like what we have because we still have traditional network you've got the three CBS NBC ABC, and then you've also got cable. So I think that cable. Will be around. It's just that we'll have more digital players to and what that constellation will look like we'll constantly be shifting and evolving. We still have radio. It's just in a different format. It's Pandora or it's streaming and it's on the web. So I wouldn't say replace entirely. I think it's will supplement it and be alongside it and the socially native aspect. I think is is a whole other new dimension. Because it does give the viewer in the consumer more power and more choice, and because of the niche affiliation of media. This is where the problem of people just getting into their own echo chambers. That's what I'm concerned about from a societal aspect. Coming up Kerry Sheffield explains how she stays true to her vision. Despite all the noise. This podcast is brought to you by plug into the present a campaign raising awareness about electric vehicles. The future of driving is here. It's easier than ever to drive electric with a variety of models to choose from more and more with ranges of over two hundred miles per charge electric vehicles can take you just about anywhere. You wanna go? Learn more about electric vehicles at plug into the present dot com. Nor listening to secrets of wealthy women. From the Wall Street Journal women have a more difficult time getting funding for their start ups. How did you do it? Well, it's interesting. I would tell your listeners who are grappling with these issues. Even if you're having a hard time finding funding for your startup think about it this way that you have a purpose for what you're doing. And the purpose is very valuable, and you don't want to auction that off to the highest bidder. And to also not confuse the ability to raise money with the ability to create a successful company, the venture capital model in some respects, especially in the content space put such intense pressure that we've taken the opposite route we've really grown organically and bootstrapped and been able to find sponsors in real time and grow organically. And and yes, it's smaller. But I compare it to you know. The they SOPs tortoise and the hair that if you can grow your company sustainably, you're going to be there for the long haul bold faced a trademark dispute with two giant media companies which bold one what trademark advice would you give to other entrepreneurs. Yes. We were profiled by entrepreneur magazine about this dispute and the editor in chief said what I did was stupid. So that's a great ringing endorsement because he was right. And and so if I can help any of your listeners with their trademarks beforehand, get out in front of it. It would be to file a trademark before you launch. So what had happened was we had launched and I knew about the concept of common law trademark, and I never expected that these two enormous companies with a combined market cap of twenty billion would one day try to take my company's name. And so it really was a miracle is one of those David versus Goliath scenarios, but because we had been so effective at driving the new cycle and getting newsmakers and just proving ourselves as a brand we were able to defeat this dispute. So if I had to do it all over again, I would've filed the trademark for bold TV as additional streaming news network before. For our launch. That would be my big advice for you just do it. You know, I once you start your company there are so many moving parts and that just ended up being on the back burner. We were very lucky, and that's what they said in the podcast that it was the IP lawyer onto talk about the case. And he said it was exceptionally rare that we were able to pull out this victory. So protect yourself filed trademark before you launch some women have given up their startups because they've had a difficult time keeping dates or having a personal life. What advice would you give them over way? I don't know if I'm your girlfriend this. I was I was actually just named on bumble most inspiring New Yorkers list, and they did this big multimedia campaign, and you know, they hired us people on their list to do their photo shoot. And I actually had more luck with their business up because they have three verticals on bumble bumbled dating bumble business and bubble BFF, which is platonic friends, and the one guy that I liked on bumble ended up moving to the other side of the world in another country and married someone else, so delete the the dating vertical, and and we actually ended up hiring someone on the business vertical for bumble. So I guess in that respect, I'm not the the best. Example. But I would say from my experience find a guy who understand your purpose because that's why you started your company, and if you don't have that partner who really is completely understand you. They're not going to be able to. They're not gonna be strong strong enough. Like that that song? Are you strong enough to be my man, it takes a a man who has incredible depth tuber state that so I'm still looking what's your advice for women who are struggling with the uncertainty of the startup life? Yeah. I think going back to what I mentioned about stoicism the one of the concepts. They have is. I'm more not which means to love your fate. And a big part of that is to love uncertainty that you should treat uncertainty as your friend and to not think of it as something to be avoided or something to shrink from but uncertainty is actually the condition in which you must succeed. It's not a condition that you. Void is actually going straight into the fire because if it was easy someone would have already done it. So you're the whole reason you're doing a company is because you're trying to do something different and innovative and that inherently involves uncertainty, otherwise, you know, just stick to the regular job. You learn that people believe in people who believe in themselves. What do you mean by that? I had someone tell me once that bold was bad for students brains. And so to to sit through that sort of meeting at keep a smile on your face. No matter what they're saying. Because there's there are other people in the room decision makers who are still listening to you. And maybe maybe you're you're not going to be in that division. But there's someone else who who if you believe in what you're saying you will break through. So it goes back to the math really the statistical odds of your company succeeding are pretty slim. What you can share. You have all these great stats here at the journal of how many businesses fail only. You know, ten percent perhaps survive. See you have to be kinda crazy to actually believe that you're going to be in that ten percent much. Like, my different clay can on American idol to believe that you will be that one and people voted well, he came in second. But a lot of them voted for him because he believed in what he was doing. You see women? Often get intimidated when it comes to money. What do you mean by that? We sometimes think of money as lesson key. You know, myself coming from very traditional, you know, Melfi male world background that I didn't think of money is something that I was necessarily going to manage. I know like I have five brothers, and they were allowed to have jobs outside the home paper routes of things I was not allowed to have a job cited. I wasn't allowed to have any income coming in even though I wanted to but just was not allowed. And so that was one of those mental patterns that had to get over that somehow men might find me intimidating if I knew how to manage money. So I think that's part of it. I think also, you know, we often times we'll take the mommy track in and there's nothing wrong with that at all. But if you're not the primary breadwinner, it's it could be a different calculus in terms of how you think about money and so. So I think to again think of money as a tool, it's it's it's value neutral. It's all about how you pro- Chit. I think that could be empowering for women. What's the biggest personal finance lesson? You've learned. The power of diversification. The power of making sure that you really understand an investment because what had happened was I had gotten some of inheritance from my grandfather at each Twenty-three. But given that I had grown up in a lot of trailer parks and not being exposed to having a job where money I had no idea what to do with it. And so I put it into one of my uncles his investments, and I had I had didn't know what I was doing. I was so preoccupied with with my job, and it was an I love my uncle, and I still love him. I, but I had not really taken the time to understand this investment. And it was very speculative risky investment. An ended up losing a lot of the value of the investment. And it was a big wakeup call for me to realize how much I had surrendered my power, and to was part of actually why I pivoted my major in to business at the Harvard. Kennedy school. To study business policy because I realized how little that I knew about money, and how I I actually thought of people who thought a lot about money as going back to my childhood programming that they were superficial. Or they were kind of wasting their time when they could have been in my case, for example, focused on public policy and politics and serving the world. But if you don't have the financial means to do it, you're not going to serve the world. So so it's really finding that balance. You said you're a registered independent who often votes Republican. What do you say to women who say it's in conflict to be a woman and a Republican or vote Republican? Yeah. Well, funny story because I have said this quite a bit that I'm registered independent. I decided to become a Republican because of Cavanaugh I was so really distraught about what had happened with Cavanaugh because I felt like the most fundamental human rights of right to trial and evidence Sherry process as was outlined in things like the. Magna Carta dating back centuries were being called into question. And I think that the Democratic Party has drifted so far to the left in these past couple of decades that I decided to become Republican, and yes, you're right that there are a lot of races in the media, and in our political dialogue right now that say that if you're a female Republican that there's something wrong with you that you're not a real woman. But you don't care about empowering women, and I I would say to them. Let's go get some coffee. Let let's talk about this. Because I believe that Republican policies are very powerful for women that, you know, as as a businesswoman to have a strong private sector is really the the best way to promote human flourishing for both men and women and for children as well. But you know, we're we're bipartisan Brandon bold. So we debate. That. Time now for your secrets. I'm Gary Sheffield, the founder of bold, and my money secret is always live below your means that way, you will always have enough. Thanks for listening. Be sure to check out more episodes of secrets of wealthy women on apple podcast, Google podcasts or your favorite podcast provider and be on the lookout for upcoming e book based on the secrets of wealthy women podcast. This episode was produced by Tanya boost does on Veronica dagger. Thanks for listening.

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Why We Need to Talk About Environmental Racism

The goop Podcast

53:11 min | 6 months ago

Why We Need to Talk About Environmental Racism

"Hi I'm Elise Lennon Co host with Gwyneth of the podcast. Today's guest is Riana gun right I sat down with her in Washington DC pre quarantine, and before the killing of George Floyd and we had a fascinating conversation while today's conversation. And others like it will be critical as we think about how to build a more at future, we have many other relevant podcast episodes for deepening our understanding of anti-racism privilege and trauma. We also have a note from our editors on the website about all the ways to get involved. Before, we get to my conversation with Rana I. WanNa give a quick shout out to our friends at Dr Sheffield's who helped make today's episode possible. Yes we know brushing. Our teeth is important, even though my kids don't quite believe me yet, it matters what kind of toothbrush you have, and it really matters. What kind of toothpaste using Dr Sheffield invented and started making toothpastes in the eighteen seventies. He was the first one to put it in a tube. Today Dr Sheffield Certified Natural Toothpastes SOS free and made without harmful bleaching, agents, fluoride or artificial preservatives, and it certified by the Natural Productions Association, but that doesn't mean you have to sacrifice taste or texture. Toothpaste comes in eight different flavors, including ones for kids like strawberry, banana, mixed, Berry and chocolate. I'm learning with my boys. That toothpaste flavor is a major selling point to learn more about Dr Sheffield. Certified Natural toothpastes had to Dr. Sheffield's noxitril dot com is also available at any major retailer like CVs and Walgreens. Don't hold anything too tightly. Just wish for it. Let it come from the intention of real truth for you and then let it go. The Mayo soul is like it's unbound limitless, but we will use words to limit ourselves when people stop believing that somebody's got your back or superman coming. We turn to ourselves and that's where you become empowered. Courageous participation attracts positive things. I'm GonNa Paltrow this Goop podcast bringing together thought leaders, culture, changers, creatives, founders, and CEOS scientists, doctors, healers, and seekers here to start conversations, because simply asking questions and listening has the power to change the way we see the world. Today is no exception a letter. Leesville you in on her extraordinary guests. All right over release. Riana gun right is the director of Climate Policy at Roosevelt, institute and before that she was the policy director for new consensus. Her work has been focused on developing the green new deal. Today we break down everything. The green new deal entails and explains that you cannot have a conversation about the climate without talking about environmental racism and creating a plan that is built around equality as its primary guiding light. She explains what barriers occur when poverty intersects with race, the creating millions of jobs is one thing. But how do you make sure everyone has access to those jobs? We talk about her. Thinking and strategy plan for the development and execution of the green new deal. Riana explains that at the center of it all is justice and equality, and once you decide no person as expendable, and no community is expendable. It will change how you solve problems as we're. GonNa Bass. The price of progress cannot be a person. Other people will tell you that there's no barriers to getting that job, so if you are actually thinking about that when you are designing. The vision when you're trying to figure out what you WanNa, do then you will not. See that it's much harder to see that later because it doesn't happen on accident, you don't bump into it. You create it. Let's get to my conversation with Riana gun right. So let's talk about the green new deal your baby. Yeah it's it's. I've always struggled with that. Not Not that being my baby, but we live in a world where. where, so many of our narratives are like? It was a lone genius who act into the night, like had an idea verse into the world, but it was a really collaborative effort, and my role was scoping it Mike when I came on board before, and this was before the sit in. Pelosi's office I was brought on to to help develop the green new deal at a new think, tank call new consensus and other than a World War Two style mobilization for climate. We didn't actually know what that was and we didn't know. How do you? An economic mobilization is a? Fancy way of saying instead of relying on markets, we rely on public investment, right? We and we actually use the economy particularly the consumer economy to turn the entire economy in a different direction. Yep, right into change industries that we participate in like to change jobs that we do and what sets it apart is that it's like a concentrated effort often when you're changing economy, a happened gradually over years, and and it's much more of an effort to like change. The economy all at once, yeah? In coordinated policy coronated initiatives through deep levels of partnership between public and private and federal state and local, so basically the opposite of neoliberalism. Essentially a lot it was and so we didn't actually know how to you. If! You're going to use that. SORTA model how to use it to reduce emissions. What sectors do you need to work on? And particularly we knew that it will always have justice and equity at the center. So how do you design these things to have more equitable outcomes to in fact, help dismantle things like. Environmental Racism. Racism more broadly and also when you are talking about transforming an economy, you inherently run up against a lot of the inequities in the system, so if you're talking about creating a lot of green jobs, a lot of that could be in trade tar. You'RE GONNA. Get Women. In them, we know that women participate in trades at lower level. So what are the barriers there? How do you actually allow that to happen? You just inherently have to deal. How do you if you're in create millions of jobs? How do you make sure people who might not have had the best education have access to those jobs right? How do you make sure that folks who have left prison? have access to those jobs. And, so we were, we had to figure out. How do these all fit together? How do we tell a story about it? That makes sense to people like. How do we message it? And how in fact? Do you decarbonised with equity at the center because a lot of decarbonisation policy disallowed of climate policy, mainstream climate policy that come to the four people have been far mental justice movement been talking about these connections for a really long time. But a lot of the mainstream didn't think about equity, or was a second thought, right, and so allow the solutions that we that people had decarbonised. That actually won't get you a more just economy. It'll get you the same economy with less carpet. So right and you know as you mentioned we have more. They're more people who've been incarcerated than there are people who have college degrees at this point. Yeah, so and we have this massive. You know, Diane. There's no middle class obviously disappearing middle class. More and more families falling into poverty. And it is a race issue. First Class Issue Second. It's a gender issue. It's a disability issue. It's I. Mean we're also even talking about highly. How do we help? Trans folks get these jobs right because that's another barrier especially, if you're talking about maybe doing more sort of stereotypical trade I how how we make sure that Trans folks have access to their. How do we make make possible for them to? You know to get training to enter and so there's just a lot of things that inherently come up because when you. I think we often think of economies as things that. Are Sort of self perpetuating systems that exist outside of us. Interest like go and go, and we also think of them as natural whatever economy we have right now. Just that is, that is what an economy is right, you know, but the fact is like it's designed right the reason some people get certain types of jobs more than other people. That's a that's a matter of history. It's a matter of law to matter of the sorts of leadership that's allowed in those spaces as a matter of incentives in those spaces, and so if is going on you, just essentially, you never get out of those questions until if you're trying to lead an economic mobilization. There is no not dealing with those questions, not dealing with those questions dealing with those questions right, you just means whatever we got is what we're going to have. And so there was people because people often ask why think about equity. There's no way not to write unless you're saying all of the inequities that we have now. We don't mind them continuing to exist right and. And as you said, we think about the economy and this natural thing it's, but it is just what it is a self-perpetuating right, so you're just grinding people into these levels of poverty, all these fence line communities or differing the mojos from environmental degradation pollution, and then you think about the impacts of that on I q an opportunity I mean just like the evidence of blood. In communities of Color, and what that does to those kids, yeah, I definitely pain as a child. Did you I did That sounds so Dr. also. My Grandma's GonNa be like. Don't tell people that, but the truth was that there was an older house next door, and and I tell the story because it's like a fairly normal story I think in a lot of cities were housing stock is old. Right and where people don't have the money to upgrade the housing right, and where people don't have the money to. If they're renting out a place to repaint, or they might not remember when it was less painted, they might think the paint was fine. So essentially it was like an older building next door and I used to like to eat the paint sweet sweet. Unless we as a kid and I told my grandmother, and she actually owned the building, and I don't think she knew there was lead paid anywhere around anymore shaved thought she had got rid of all of it, and I told her and she was like. Oh. No, do not eat those paint chips anymore. And she like re painted it the next day right, but but that stuff happens like I was in Detroit most of the housing stock there is old. That's where I worked. For the last two and a half years and That stuff affects children in ways, and it shows up down the line, and the worst part is. It's a pro, you know. The effects of lead were that you know decreased cognitive function and or Difficulty dealing with anger like those things manifest. Those kids get in trouble at school. Maybe they enter the school to prison pipeline, and it's not to say lead is the only thing, but it is a factor and the saddest thing is, it becomes an individual problem when it was actually a systemic properly, start out with right and so many you know. Industrial Sites, etc. Toxic waste dumps are put on reservations they're in. They're always placed in marginalized community es. They're not in the middle of Brentwood. Which is where I live in Los, Angeles? And so we don't, and it's. It's one of the things we'll never really understand the impact. Yes, but they're certainly impact, and then you look at those communities, and this affects poor whites as well, but like this these communities and complete decline. There's no jobs they can't. There's no education right or there or there is, and people are working really hard right to even to make the best of the education that is there to help the area economically develop but the fact is that. Poverty particularly and Poverty Intersex with race. It creates such barriers. Yeah, and I think that's one of the reasons that the green deal takes equity so seriously is because. The barriers to participating even say there's an explosion of a million jobs. If you are poor, the barriers to you getting that job to if you're poor and black, or Latino and much record, and have a record or your undocumented right, though the barriers to accessing what people will tell you just open, and if you don't take it as your fall is actually in fact, not open just like I. Talk So one thing that's the green new deal. Resolution advocates for universal healthcare and a lot of people after came out, and we're talking about people who worked on climate forever. Wise healthcare in this. Why would you do something like this, but the fact is so. Say like The two biggest green new deal plans from presidential candidates propose that they will create ten to like. Upwards of ten million jobs. Right up of ten million jobs, and the like the Senator Sanders Senator Warren plans, and a lot of those jobs will be dispersed across the country right because. When say even just transitioning to renewable energy the the base where you want to generate large quantities of energy are now going to be dispersed around the country. You have high sun in the southwest. See might want a lot of solar. You can do offshore wind off the. East Coast Rhode. Island, etc right and so, but to build those things you will need people right, and this is just one example. Other jobs will not necessarily be so spread out, but the fact is. How can people move for those jobs one if their healthcare is attached to their employer? And then to if you're on Medicaid Right Medicaid has asset limited, you cannot earn or have assets above re pretty nominal amount, and still have medicaid, and there's lots of people talk about the downsides to medicate a lot, and they are real, but the fact is. If you have a chronic condition, medicaid is the best health insurance you can have unless you can get gold plated health insurance, which most people can't on the private market, and so if you are someone you know with a chronic condition are your child has a chronic condition? You can't take that job unless I. Job has really good healthcare right right and so in fact, but you will be told right. In the public and other people will tell you that there's no barriers to getting that job, so if you are actually thinking about that when you are designing. The vision when you're trying to figure out what you WanNa do then you will not. See that much harder to see that later. 'cause equity doesn't happen on accident. You don't bump into it. You create it, yeah. So, when new is the idea than green new deal like this and I know many conservatives call it. A fantasy, right and many I'm sure meaner things, but. You can sort of take. And Pass it to whoever? Might emerge and say this is the idea like. Let's go for the I. Don't know why we have so much aversion to sort of like. Let's just go big. I don't know why that's well. It's been I mean part of it is that it's been a con. A concerted, effort! So. It's also it's really I always think it's really interesting. Conservative say that it's a fantasy because since the sort of. Creation of the neoliberal movement. which was a conservative push which started like after the new deal in a lot of business, people are like Nope, don't like it not fan, right. It has been a concerted effort to sort of build. A neo-liberal market first conservative ideology, because that's not always what we had ray, if you think about the new deal, and after there was a big relief in public investment. Keynesian economics sort of which is part of that is that the government should? Pick up the slack in the business cycle. That's the role. There was A. Commitment to full employment, it was just a very different set of beliefs about what is natural and should be, and and in like particularly in the neoliberal sort of movement, really heated up. No fifty sixties, but In about half a century, they have dramatically changed the way that we do government. Right the way that we do regulatory process. He's the ways that we allow the first questions that we ask is. How much will it cost? How much will it cost? What's the role of the market? Does this protect the market right? We have unlimited money going into politics. All of this was. A campaign over time and one of the things I was part like a key sort of. Tentative neoliberalism is the government can't do stuff. Right the government is there to correct market failures when the market cannot do, government can do, but in all other conditions, government should do the very least a could do because that is freedom. That enables maximum freedom so. It's really to me. It's like why would people think that you could do more? When most people have been inculcated over the last fifty years to say? Why go big government every time government goes big. It's a disaster. which isn't true historically, but if that's what you hear over, and over and over, and also every time, the government does do something big, and it doesn't go great which. Everything does go well the time. Obviously, it's like blast it right like we're talking now about. People want more innovation, right? How do we what are? What are their breakthrough technologies around? Carbon emissions. Like what can we do and the fact is that? To get those breakthrough technologies, you have to invest at the early stages ray, and but after Celinda, which people who don't even know what solar panels are can tell you what lender is and that the government failed right, and that was one that was really one grant, and tore a package of grants that had a lot more or investment I was one investment and a package that had a lot more investments that were successful, but now there's a generation of politicians who are afraid to invest in green technology. Because what about Civil Indra. And so as not really super surprising, but in terms of green new deal, the hope is that yeah, that we as a collection of movements as a collection of like. Policy. Thinkers can help develop. Can Develop. Specific policies and proposals to support an incoming administration to do these things because we don't have unlimited time right the other thing with climate is that the timeframe to avoid? Some catastrophic that we cannot roll back is closing, and it's closing more rapidly than we think like. The last assessment was eleven years. IPCC report last year one. We're down a year and then to. We're still finding out about feed that Luke's that we don't know about. And also as things continue right as I. She'd smell and release intense amount of methane, which have a bigger impact I. think methods like. I'm going to get it wrong about say four time, but it could be like. Even more four times the impact of carbon, so this is a really potent greenhouse gas and link as the earth warms, ice sheets melt. They release nothing right right perpetuates. Feedback cycles. Extreme and we don't yeah. We don't understand awfully understand. We know that the hotter the ocean gets the less you know. It can absorb heat the hotter. The world gets right ads as ocean acidification continues, so there's like all these feedback loop, so people often ask me like well after ten years. Is All wash no right every bit of improvement. Is Good, but there are not close, but there are points where if we don't stop it before then we. Can't go back or it'd be much much much harder to reduce emissions down to a level where those things are happening. And it's just such a different I think orientation to. To chain, Lou, a friend of Mine Bracken Hendricks where I work with talks about how part of what is tough for people to wrap their minds around and climate. Is that often? If you don't do nothing, the status quo continues right. That's how most people make decisions if I don't do. Anything was going to happen is going to continue, and it's a very different orientation to say if I don't do anything, things will get worse rapidly right. And we can't really wrap our heads around that. That can't be true if I stopped walking up just in the same space I don't. There's not a cavern that like widened around, and then I fall into it. and. That's where much more of the former or the latter than the former. Yeah, I think it goes back to that sort of. What's the responsibility or role of the individual and sort of this whole American mythology that like? Jewels well, if I'm poor and I end up in jail like I, fucked up. Yeah, and then the same way with climate change. Like what power do I have? It's it's sort of a shifting of consciousness away from these are these are individual actions to like. This is the collective cyclical complex community that we live in and we are. We have to do this together. And the these. Yes, there's there's. Personal responsibility sure to appoint. An only two point two. Yeah, because most of the admitted, here's our giant corporation Yes right and and all US and China I mean we're screwing the rest of the World Oh. Yeah, oh. Yeah! In terms of the thing is though that eleven years timeline, so there's fair share accounting it's is essentially. People who emit more carbon or have historically have to do more so if you're actually talking about fair share, yeah, the US our timeline is far shorter than the rest of the world, and it should be right. We have more resources we have done. A lot of the emitting and we are responsible for things that we have done and every moment that we extend. We're actually taking from someone else right. The more time we spin, we're essentially saying okay. Island nations like. Sorry whenever comes your way? Honey, get me twenty fifty in our political world. Who? We can't do it any faster right? You're talking. We're talking about our political reality as though it doesn't affect other people's material lives. We'll get back to a gun rights and just a second. Our editorial and product development teams like to stay in the know when it comes to which clean products are best at home i. try to prioritize ways. I can further detox and clean things up. 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It doesn't capture how precarious it it doesn't capture temporary. It doesn't capture if it's GEICO. It doesn't sure if it's minimum wage, it doesn't serve any of the. And Green. Jobs are not necessarily good jobs right because no job is inherently a good stable job, you make it that way or their of protections are required to be that way investing in infrastructure and industry of the United. States to sustainably meet the challenges twenty-first-century, securing clean air, clean water, climate and community resilient, healthy food access to nature. So this is essentially about remembering that the environment is bigger than emissions. Yeah, right? It's about clean air clean water. It's about the physical environment that people live in. It's really easy to talk about decarbonisation and not talk about environmental racism. Because there, there is a there is version of sort of tackling climate change that doesn't say in fact, petrochemicals on the Gulf coast cannot keep creating cancer clusters. Right exactly right. You cannot continue to do that and into that is about recognizing that, and then promote justice and equity by stopping. This is I. Think this. I love to swim straight fire. From Justice and equity by stopping current preventing future and repairing historic oppression which is a recognition for us that really when? One. That was sort of a principle that we're working on, and I write the resolution that came from Z and senator. Markey's office did a great job and The principals I, we all sort of as you're developing. The green new deal agreed to which that. The price of progress cannot be person. Or another person's pay. Because, historically in the US progress has meant exploitation of someone and usually people of color, right and women and Ney indigenous folks, and and that isn't. To us because a lot of the creator of the deal come from those communities so for us. It wasn't really. Progress is not to say. You know like Yes World War mobilization did raise wages for African American workers. Yes, the new deal did open up some things, but the fact is we also live with the legacy of everything that we didn't get right that and so we just and. We just really wanted to see. That went to keep a commitment to equity at the center. How does it change the solutions that you come up with because often people say you know well. You have to make those compromises. Maybe but often we tend to be done. Make that commitment. We didn't create. We didn't look at solutions that didn't allow the right. If you say no one can be. No one is expendable. No person expendable, no community is expendable that changes how you saw problems, course and And when you think about cost, and because you know, there's always this this overstatement of cost for instituting programs that then invariably end up, being not only for cheaper, but then the savings like you think about the impact of all of these you know going back to Ladd or other contaminants in what that's done to. We can just talk about flint right like those communities of color in terms of their ability to succeed at school. Get good jobs to businesses economically developed a community that could. Who's new new jobs and industries who wants to come into a place with poison water exactly and then you think about I'm reading tightrope by Nick Kristof Shell route on, and they're they one of the towns that they look at as his hometown and Oregon and just the. The number of kids that he went to school with who have died fallen into math. Noga jobs. You know these are people whose parents had union jobs were were climbing out of poverty into the middle class, and didn't necessarily have a high school education. We're still had opportunity. Yeah, and and not book I think. Paints really compelling picture for for the cost of what's happening throughout the country I mean as as the middle falls out and we have, is it? The three wealthier at Jeff. Bezos Bill Gates Warren. Buffet have more wealth than. Fifty percent of the people in this country. Yeah, I was just someone just but I saw it on twitter, so I'd emphatic, but someone I guess someone did the math and we're like. If you got seven thousand dollars, was it every day sent? The pyramids were great at. You still wouldn't have as much money Jeff. bezos yeah, which is why why yeah, and that's the question that I think. Motivated I mean motivates me personally personally, and I think motivational out of work on a green new deal is. What? Why? Why are some people allowed to amass so much more than you can use in? A thousand lifetimes. Right while other people are allowed to struggle what? Is it possible to. Try to fashion in economy where. that. Doesn't happen which we know, it is possible, but more than that. Essentially I guess the question I we were circling around was like. If, you take more communal view. What is possible? How does that relieve pressure on what you have to do personally? How does that make people feel like there's less scarcity. How does you know and it? Also you know it when you think about I, think we? Particularly privileged way people. We want to believe that you know. We grew up in this mayor talker. See and we you know we did it like we. We built this. We created this, and then you know it's obviously a fallacy of you know. This country built I on genocide than on slavery slavery. We you think about the environmental devastation in terms of people's personal health, or to succeed or access to opportunity and sure like there's of course there are people who succeed despite all odds in this country. Who then we hold up as. An example of like, why aren't all of you dilettantes doing the same thing? And of course there are people who take advantage of government programs sure, but like the that somehow somehow we think it's fair a right. When white people do it right because if you think about like to say the housing loans, they came out of the GI. Bill Ninety. Eight percent of those loans went to white people that was essentially just welfare for white people right, but we don't consider that welfare, right? We don't think about the ways that most actually tax credits benefit. Upper middle class white. Folks the way that our Texas don't Miss. Set up benefits. The wealthiest folks upper middle class. Folks get hit and different in some ways, but. No, whether it's like homeowners, tax credit, or whatever the our system actually quietly benefits. White people in particular and ways that we never call that assistance. We never call that help. We just call that natural right earned earned right, and it's funny that you mention. Like exceptions being picked up because I have worried especially after the green new deal sort of got traction and more attention I have worried about people holding me up as an exception I come from Inglewood in Chicago, and which is now mostly known for gang violence as one of the poorest parts of the city. My family had lived there by the time I was born had been in. In the House for almost forty years now that house has been in our how our family for almost seventy years, and I grew up with a lot of people who are now in jail, working minimum wage jobs. You know struggling to to afford childcare because they work at minimum wage jobs right who do not have the life that I have and they were just as smart right they. But you know for various reasons mostly structural, right, overwhelmingly structural, and so I have never wanted to be an exception because. Yeah I. Made You know I'm in a different space? I've had some success, but to say that it was all because I earned it as complete bullshit, and the fact is, that shouldn't be the hunger games to build a decent life, right? Which is what if? It had truly felt like. Getting to where I got to feels like the hunger games, yeah, you know like as a tribute in my community rallied around me in ways to like. Make sure that if One of US made it like I was gonNA. Make it yeah, and then to be held up as an example of like, see see now you can do and is like that is complete and total and utter and I. Am Not. Sorry to curse, but there's no other way to say it is bullshit. Yeah, they are valuable people. There are people who may me who I am, and and it's also horrible for the people that are held up as exceptions like the amount of survivor's guilt that you have the things that you sacrifice the ways that you can't connect with the people that you should grow up with because they're. They're now. You're here and it's hard to translate and it's. It's lonely and you're constantly traversing spaces where people. Aren't sure why you there aren't sure. If you should be there tell you. They believe you should be there, but truly think that you didn't earn it the way that they did right spaces that. Success means. How well do you adapt to this? Not how well do we change to me? You yeah horrible horrible. It's a it's a an and I. Say that just say it's. It doesn't work for anybody. Right at all and. We just like cannot continue to go forward this way. Yeah, I mean theoretically it works for. What like the top one percent, but then you even you look at what's happening in this country and like the epidemic of Loneliness Depression Like people are getting what they think they want at those levels, the only defined that it's empty. Yeah, and like the things that you have to do to sustain it. Yeah, to sustain that level of. Of. Success and I don't say that because you know I think successful people are better. It's not that it's just. It's more that success in this country is a is defined by type of relentless. That doesn't allow you to be fully human. Yeah, you should not rest right. You should not rest. You should be connected. You should be responsive all the time and especially for women. You're supposed to do all that. While also weighing three pounds and eating air and Kale and going bar class, which is just yoga but worse. It is just like Bar classes like let's just make female. Rosie's into a workout just like going to work really hard, but. Very little feel very passionate about this because I just went to a bar glass. with my friend Mike Wise, this is oppression as a workout and it's just so. Suffocate, but we don't care about I shouldn't say we don't but. The narratives don't capture that. We don't capture how many people? Do. You know take prescription medication just to make it through the day. Yeah, and like. I entered recovery for an eating disorder like. Five months ago. And so much to do with like. Trying to just keep it together to be successful. Without ever asking, what is that mean? Yeah, and so for me alive, the green new deal sound really fuzzy, and sometimes we'll do at is about climate is about transforming our economy, but. At its core. It's about trying to make. America a country. Where there's. Whereas easier to be the best version of yourself. Yeah, right where it's easier. To feel respected as a human to be to have a country that tells you that you're valuable instead of your only valuable, if you earned this much money, or if you look this way, or and you know, and and those are big lofty goals right, and it won't happen through the green new deal loan. No illusions about that, but the fact is we already are in a place where there's so much feeling. There's just so many feelings of scarcity. There's never enough you never have enough money. Never. You have to compete for everything, and that's partially because we live in a country where you do. Everything's on the market. If you can't buy you, don't you? Don't get it. Healthcare you gain buy you don't get good education you can buy you. Don't care what are. You can't live in a good enough place. You don't get it right if you cannot afford it, you don't get it and we're just heading into a much. More resource constrained world and. It's that sort of mindset plus actual resource scarcity. It's already causing conflicts in other parts of the country and other parts of the world right I was just watching video that I I'm not gonNA say the lake 'cause it I'll probably get the name wrong, but one of the lakes in Africa. In the last ten years, ninety percent of the water has evaporated. I think it was something like. Tens of millions of people rely on that, and so now there's a way more conflict over because it shrinking the amount of water shrinking. They're still you know fields that need to be watered there still agriculture, and he's happened there still community need to live, and so if we aren't making that easier to deal with, we aren't making it easier to live in a resource constrained world. Then we are not doing our duty. It's just we have to try to be a best versions of ourselves for what is heading our way. Also it's like trying to balance that the fear and anxiety that just like the very idea of stokes like resource constriction, right with. Another what I think is a m- the myth of scarcity, and I think it goes to what we're saying about like Jeff. bezos are. Getting to the point of feeling like okay I have enough like. How do we just get to a point? Where we feel like my needs are met and anything more than this is not actually an equally happier 'cause. Isn't it like? The research is that essentially if you can meet people's basic needs, and whether that's true like a universal basic income or whatever that might be. Their happiness doesn't change as they accumulate right more right. Of another colleague of mine, Daniel, Donna Cohen talks about switching from. Was He. Call it public. Switching from private necessity in public luxury to public necessity. Getting the wrong either it ideas essentially that right now you have to buy everything and the create intense pressure, and if you want a pool or something, if you want anything, Nice you much less the basics you have to go out and get it and the public sector just there to like do the bare minimum, but if you switch it right if there are beautiful public parks with pristine community pools, if there is more public luxury plus the public meeting, the necessity what kind of spaces that create people? Right when all of a sudden what you are earning, yes, it helps you live, but. You don't have to work so hard because some of the things that you need as a basic human are. Met Yeah Right, and how can that change the decisions that we make politically ray? How does that change the ways that we? Want government to function allow government to function what is that? Just, like how does that change who we are now operate as a society totally if there was some sort of just safety, not right. Is that an antidote to the feeling that we all have. Which I think is maybe it's just my own anxiety. But I don't know but that we need to stockpile right that lake. There is no there are no pensions. There's no one to catch you when you get sick. There's no paid family leave. There's childcare obviously like I have a ton of privilege, and like I still feel like you're yes and get together and barely holding a. That's the thing that's fucked up. So but if we had a safety net where people and we we believed, and I think that a majority of people it's like I think that. The percentage of people who commit fraud on snap programs. So it's so low. There's no benefit. I started working welfare policy, so I used to study this. The levels of fraud are so low because one. Is generally not worth it to risk losing your benefits, because the welfare system is harsh. Yeah, there's no I mean do that ramp. Give it back. You're cut off completely and so most people are willing to take that risk to. You know if you're talking about a ten F check. Your is not that much money to begin with. You know mostly bar committing fraud for that. Little money and to the are like three. The systems are so Byzantine anyway that figuring out how to defraud them. Is. Crazy is is so difficult to the paperwork that you have to do. Yeah to get on Medicaid. And they are going to try to defraud Medicaid when they're also regularly running your Info versus the irs tax base. They know things before you know they'll be like. Oh, we heard you gotTA raise. Right because they're cross-checking with the IRS database, right and so. If. People would allow that fact and then CH- believe that people WanNa have purpose they wanna you know lead live where their a value to communities and to their families. That's what. Makes US happy and feel connected. Yeah, and and we all get. We all feel like okay. There's I'm not going to be destitute. I'm not gonNA live on the street. I'M GONNA. Get Healthcare by need it. If I'm addicted I'm not going to go to jail. Put in recovery. God amazing to think of what we could accomplish. Yeah, and and it's and the thing is like for all the things that you're saying they're not free, but this is that we have right now isn't free. Pay Either way eventually, and I think most functioning adults. No this just like in life you pay up front or you pay at the back end, but you're gonNA. Pay You know and so you either have these inefficient systems or you have bigger systems. You know that. Say like universal healthcare that. On the surface looks like a big price tag, but when you dig into, it actually is cheaper. As a system and most people will see savings ray. But you know and collectively we'll see savings if people aren't. Waiting sick from diseases for decades and decades or don't only have access to emergency rooms, which means that one what is often preventable has gotten to a stage where now you need more intensive more. Expensive Care, an Er visits are way more expensive than going to. The doctor, yeah, just a doctor's office or you think about the impact of prisons and. Keeping people in prison, who perfectly you know done some small fraction or the dollar bail that they can't find anyone to go and meet. And you think about people. There then not being able to get jobs or losing their jobs. and. How much more productive would it be if we didn't incarcerate people for dumb stupid thing or things that are primarily people of color or things? That are you know? SOCIOCULTURAL or You know health related right. A lot of people are in prison. I've had people my family imprison. Essentially because I got. Into drugs right and they get locked up. Because essentially they're like you said they're addicted. Yeah, that's not going to help or you know or people are selling small amounts of drugs, 'cause there's no jobs around right and you have kids and it's easier to. It makes more logical sense to sell drugs for however many hours a day and be able to be at home with your kids and taking care of them, the working a minimum wage job where you have unpredictable shifts. There's no money for childcare right like. So often that we label as quote, unquote bad decisions. We don't know people's lives when they make those decisions and most people are trying to make the best choice they can at any given time. Yeah, you know and. And I think that. So often we particularly, when people have less privileged or less power or have done something that we stigmatize, we forget that. Most people like none of us really go out to try to make the wrong decision, but your decisions are constrained by the situation that you're in. By the options that you have available to you, and you're just trying to make the best choice from a set of choices, but I think. The choices in this country and I think it's sometimes harvest. Wrap our minds around. The choices depending on literally where you were born and who you are. The set of choices options that you're making a choice from can be so radically different. Thanks for listening to my conversation with Ron a gun rights for more information on the green new deal had to G P, dot org, and for more related episodes on deepening our understanding of anti-racism privilege and trauma had to Goop podcast page. That's it for today's episode. If you have a chance, please rate and review hit subscribe to keep up with new episodes and pass it along to a friend. Thanks again for joining I. Hope you'll come back for more and in the meantime you can check out google dot com slash podcast.

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431: Neil Grant, BBC Radio Sheffield, part 1

The SodShow

29:57 min | 1 year ago

431: Neil Grant, BBC Radio Sheffield, part 1

"Yeah back. I'm back okay. Are we going to go to a recording according okay just yup the second nail the lower amount but it was the classic donovan style interruption. I call me peter donovan. Donna guinness actually picked it up. Whatever you want me to go being calmer snipping. Call okay all all right. Let's try this. Let's try this ladies and gentlemen welcome to the sato garden podcast. I was say it's a fight offer noon. We've been here before. It's happening to me for far too long stages game but you are. I don't allow a poster. You're very welcome to another episode. Soda decent show garden podcast for anything. You need sort show on twitter facebook dot com forward slash show. Do people still use thing it's on the instagram's and all all it out on my guest. Today is <hes> well we know each other by reputation but how we met or when we lost mess i happened during the middle of a interview with kate gold on press. Stay at chelsea to one thousand nine hundred on. Here's dot little a bit of it for guinness over. Obviously we will initiate a point of chin. Yeah indeed garden is for green fingers got b._b._c. playing delight group. What year is this in nineteen ninety one great song yeah okay talk now known to you or maybe you couldn't pick it up. Neal was the voice neil grant dot is my guest who you're about to here in a second and he was the voice in the background and he sent me a note afterwards because i'd forgotten all about it because welcome to peter's head saying <hes> <hes> i'm really sorry for interrupting your interview with kate but neil it's excellent voice again. How are you. I'm good. Thanks yeah. That was a funny that you don't remember because youtube really thinking about jumping onto a met with kate. I wasn't thinking about jumping onto a network eight because i'm scared out of my wits at put a polite term on of heights high. Whatever kate decided we should punish on dot was dot not neil for those who don't know you. I'm aware of heavier twitter bio reads but what is it that you would do that would be best known for <hes>. I finally got on they. Ask us sheffield. <hes> i do a dumb phone on radio sheffield in this area so they do not fourteen years. That's how most people in our industry only for wearing floral shirts with you know people go. Oh you'll really ooh okay well to clarify niyaz reference to sheffield. That's bbc radio sheffield doing for and i would be regular <unk> an irregular. I should add listener to most of the local b._b._c.'s because to tune in op. If you're into your mobile at fallen things allows me listen isn't to pretty much anything all over the world including <hes> a good friends in ninety point nine in salt lake city. Neil talked me a little bit about what you do in the garden center on ver- unison home. Don't get me wrong. We have a plan of where i want to go with this conversation but when i he say garden centers <hes> at least for me growing up. They seemed to have started a lot of them anyway. If i go back to the eighties where they were in in back gardens stay where at the sites of houses and then all of a sudden they sort of <hes> boomed more so on blossomed into something that became quite grand and with more than one cash register or till behind a wooden homemade bit of eh shelf and then they turned into something that is autism car-parking spaces basis. Let's call it yeah well on the big island. Is you call this. The most of the garden fences <hes> actually formed out of nurseries production nursery so they talk to retailers and then people wants to come punks and so on and and really with the advent of <hes> plastic pulse really in the sixties and seventies they made need the paper goodbye planets when they wanted them in the spring off to wait until the winter so <hes> and then people want more and more that one of the big reasons come into into the very much lifestyle and some of them with massive call pox as that the people don't go all year around lot. My grandfather used today so so what you do with the stuff in the winter what you do with them. It'd be automating ulta as an industry is as big problem now because people don't give them. The ultimate advice does that i saw in the way that used to some do but not many so bust. That's why so much lifestyle going back but actually she she goes. She'll be just pop up when you when the weather's reasonable when you wanted to do the international garden center congress about five approximate years ago if i remember it correctly and i was brought on tour speaking with garden centers from australia and germany and the united states etc but one of the things that i know here there was there's a huge big deal made out of again talking to garden center owners over course does treat as they were explained to me that they wear little mon- on his wife. I just and saved up enough are off the mark out by the house to as we said now it is no longer jimmy's garden center it is jimmy's amis lifestyle and garden center day crystal jewelry. They have cafeterias. It's not a cafeteria. It's now a restaurant. You've the sweetser furniture. It's got everything. Is it a case of garden garden centers hot to do this because plant sales on the decline white at all of this happened outside of the off season once a bit of both plan says actually probably we certainly over here as big as i've ever been <hes> when you do the job properly but the walls changed breath over the last thirty years that forty years is overheads have changed dramatically so you'd go minimum wages you go hiring shows go heating bills that completely different in the sense that they used to bring us. The used a little cost the whole year pretty much. I mean you could make enough and going through from the spring. You can't dude. I need just too many heads because every time you shopping face overhead so lot of environmentally is now a lot of guns around the countryside on mains lanes drains and started to come in over here and the water authorities. You have to register it. Also the excise becoming professional businesses really decide go ahead. How big is your own garden center neil. How many staff do you employ. Do you have in ratio of plant sales. Let's say to both save crockery but that's ought to correct her. Let's say accessories to crystal under jewelry etc where <hes> employees about sixty people mental full-time law part time and that just you know people with families particularly suits them. I've got about twenty fulltime stuff coffee shop. <hes> <hes> not coffee shop anymore so restaurants six about two hundred <hes> <hes> keeps us busy. That's about to the business and turnover terms but plans also still <hes> outdoor turnover and house plan a growing and becoming going from one or two cents about three or four percents again so <hes> wasted very much focused on plants. We're actually planning notice. I'm not you know every time a new. Laurie comes in a little crowded around. What's on the school. When actually i mean there's nobody in the garden center in the plant they all out looking at the new delivery but i actually the essence of a gun even wade last on you've got to still uh-huh gonna look after them because if they still have one thing that we can be unique outlook enough to plan doing it well. How did you brian as being a bit different. Do you tell you deal with the rest of the rest of but in general if i was to contrast you with say flavor garden centers within a fifty mile radius eighty s of you. Is it a fair suggestion that you may be renowned. Let's say for being a place to go shoot. You want plants for your garden yeah. I think there's a few in the area as well well but <hes> yeah we we particularly a lot of effort and extra stuff and then i just build that up because i think one of the things went guns since it started heavily on the yankees boom is was they became replace absolutely everybody <hes> about men often some garden centres went down being. Let's say good value for a better word. I'm so we're putting off the people who who wanted to things that have been back and eventually could also people who knew they could buy cheaper parts now a dog installed or the the molecules on with scientists say government sent to become more focused on who their customers are to be unless you can't deal with everybody. You know you got a busy day in the week over the weekend. In spring you just can't cope with the number so more and more people are still the same. We'll just it goes to not suit them okay and they live with that stuff and not have these calls so he's getting multiple professional. It used to be just like a blunderbuss scotto everything as far as you could get one of the points that you made their neal was on the houseplants they've gone from a warner two percent or four percent well a politician listen in peter's had says you but if i'm to look at the media for ore of houseplants and how much spoke about on how much it house being ah inverted commas millennials and small spaces on london and all of those things that seemed committed if i pause dot over there on the righthand side of my brain might model oblong glenn gaza if you wanna use the word and sound very intelligent and i contrast with a transplant we had maybe ten years ago to the point. We made all fair or at at least i was. I gave a talk on garden. Trends of three hundred years of card and trends is what it was in fact when i looked at that i took to grow your own own epidemic or pandemic as some people call. The point that i may to was there was a moment of time where mcdonald's were given away. Grow your own kits would hoppy meals on. I set my head this peak saturation now. It won't get any higher than this one two. We've always gone to grow your own or being war frugal. Let's call at times of recession of economic studies and when the boom comes back instead of bringing becker packet of carrot seeds. It's we bring back a bunch of flowers. Have we seen another one a damn implant sales number one and number two one and two percent to three and four percent. Actually it doesn't seem to tie in with the media for or well. It's it's never been house thompson galvin fences. There's never been a very big department <hes> because it it just it tends to be small the values of low. I think the one thing that's different with this change with the the growth millennial interest is haunted as the publicity hopelessly. That's being given because the people who were reporting of the same age and so they got into it i live in flats probably in london but actually how the across the the english speaking world so on instagram before it was hitting the newspapers it was big and i think one of the differences now white might carry on one ever millennial down <hes> the house plans. Things will be still very important to them now. If you remember in the eighties nineties we have certain big swedish companies simplifying our houses completely and they would need to check out anything collect dust on the house plans well with fell fell into that as well and and the only thing these country gums enters ignored them and they didn't push them hard enough but it's so exciting and we're finding not just millennial it's all age groups and we in buttle government classes and workshops for people in the age group goes right from classic. Millennials rights retired people. There's no it's just people having fun. I think that's the difference they're having to play and i'm starting to find things to sell or interesting as well going onto the grow your own. It's i like to think about that started because it looks like a good thing to save money. It was never gonna do that because you come produce things at the right time. It became a fund funded industry didn't back it up because people started. They didn't get good results and we didn't pick up quickly enough so we went and showing them how to make you better. I think he's growing again now. Slowly not for economic reasons for lifestyle reads again so oh you're gonna. You're you're not far off effortlessly. We had a <hes> well yes well. I did run out a pounds for me surp- more so than did euros but we parked to one side you had made the point that you think that started because it looked like a good reason for people to save money and i was never gonna do yeah yeah okay okay. You can grow things to save money. If you've got an allotment then fair enough you could you could probably give yourself food for a lot of the year but for the majority people didn't have a lot of very big government now so they were grown on the patio but they didn't really know what they were doing and and we didn't back up with trying to help them and i think that's after a big impact for gardening. Now is the the lack of knowledge out. There is is immense. That's the right way of putting it <hes> but the thing about growing again i'm thinking growing your own and he's coming back again as the controller what you're growing the biggest thing for me if you can get kids to start growing anything that tomorrow is also plan then you start to get them into becoming milk pile normal way of living <hes> but but i think as an industry both from you know riots at the chelsea flower show and right down to to <hes> to social media pages. There's not enough concentration paid on actually showing everyday people how they can have success. It's just too much trial and everything too many people when you look out some of the ah facebook groups <hes> giving advice is just plain wrong advice and if you step in his professional you just get pilloried. People just have a go at you for being globalists' list which is coming to me and for representing the chemical industry and stuff for the paper just <hes>. There's a lot of misinformation out there. It's funny. You should say that neil neil because i was mildly <hes> choice in my words here but reprimanded. Maybe a good word for suggesting that ice sterilized realized my pots and by my heart cultural education milton baby fluid r. j. slew one of them is always how i would have gone. There is what i would call good husbandry where you sterilize your potsy us clean compost you to the basic extremely well. You sterilize your secretaries. Yes you only take when doing coatings for example. You only do from good clean stock. You're almost heading towards when pruning and apple tree where it stood a movable of dead and diseased would immediately basically and then you go to the shaping of said tree for example in this sterilization of pastas. That's something that you would recommend or is it something that you stay away from how absolutely because i mean but basically husband dean holds guilt you have not changed you know when it was terra cotta pots and there's an apprentice your job into into cleaning laney parts which i'm amazed that people carried on relied. I probably didn't have a choice <hes> and actually it'll become more important when we as we're getting more and more transfixed about the problem of plastics in horticulture will end up with pulse. We wanna keep a limited time so we're not to sterilize took away so <hes> but we're gonna have to use things the way things patriots the at the moment over here they must have impact on big discussion russian about recycling and apart from the right materials. She's absolutely right but he seems to have grit the retold of the people in the media yeah whereas all kitchen cobras a full of nasty chemicals and plastic bubbles which nosy pay much attention to so this little mix of looks good news and bad news go even though don't think people really intended but we gotta keep the bicycles wouldn't do that otherwise well. We'll want us to many any diseases anyway coming in <hes> let alone the ones. We've already go. The point that was made to me. Neal was on stage by gentleman who has a garden centre when i said about sterilizing pots now i was to host of two stage undecided. I said well this is my education was to do it this way. You can choose used to do it another way if you wanted and he said well disci- hus- improved is what i was suggesting not suggesting what i was saying which is correct in my head which we're weird in agreement on but when when did this all this all change if you don't or maybe for listener at home neil maybe clarify what happens if he used dirty compost reuse compost which you'd think you're doing a favor to yourself for saving a few barbara being a bit frugal and you don't sterilize your pots. What is to knock on effect. Adopt us well particularly. After even cutting stage is the what i don't think many people know is new gardens particularly is that they're solvable diseases diseases <hes> pizzi fly talk through those little things which kill routes so if you're gonna start spend all when we home we spend most of that a bunny at propagation time so be pulse compost seeds stuff the expensive part of the process if you're putting run you healthy into soiling the top of the pathogens in there the pumps and they're going to thrive. I'm from dental then never going to flourish in the whole lot soccer. It's like it's just like drinking kid. I mean if you if you don't change nappies not gonna thrive <laughter> you if you don't feed them probably noggin inside and i i'm one waste waist implant growing into things people at the time because they go get in you know they're not <hes> pity i the thing that i learned this thing clean and so now you get the funny thing my dad years ago tried to grow some six say and didn't work and being hof sculptor she he decided to raise the compulsive the german eighty two the second time and every next of germany to go six but i mean generally that's not is stuck the point don't need when we when i i speak about good husbandry and dot famous book dot iheart going through college which was the principles of horticulture in a nutshell it was dead bible of yang's literally debt principles by definition that you should follow but once you've got those clicked inside your head everything else seem and to follow quite simply afterwards and it's only when i think the famous one that i would guess on twitter a lot is my seeds grew two inches tall dente keeled <music> over undyed and you would know that as dumping off which comes from the basics really very basics of not sterilizing your c- trays and or using dirty compost phenomenon if you aren't aware of us but it's quite simple to understand if you have studied horticulture and you've got that in is that the bit that's missing neil in the inverted commas to information. That's being put through the those basics is based on nutrition is just as simple as the spending of soil types. <hes> shade in the gum patriot oil related people on my phone and say when you're learning to cook you you. I have to get some basics hygiene. One is listening to make things but comedies on all kooks alkyl. Two ru now apparently wants to make you can make all sorts associate the please. Don't ask me to tell you how to do just about it but if if you people start to understand that you get a few basic cooking skills you could go on and do as much as you want if you got a few basic skills hygiene rural the you know how to do things went to do things <hes> i mean it keeps me in a job on a sunday because people can ring and i must have questions and i say to. I don't know just just ring in but people they want the big home the for information now. That's one thing about millennials. Just accept you do it now. They wanna wanna know why do it now and i think that's good but identity how we're going to as an industry known as nations get about basic noise bucket. I mean my wanna into big inspirations in my life ago. When my grandfather who had a classic victorian garden greenhouse small baseball plot a little bit of grass tracy paving even patio paints those days we were never allowed to touch anything but this thing was a work of art and then we lived the good life t._v. Program in the seventies seventies which just made me think there's a different way of doing these things now. There's this we were brought up with a bit of knowledge. We have family. Only around. People are wood lin from the people in the next allotment but we've got a massive gap that doesn't exist anymore and if one is an industry we can keeps showing lovely things at chelsea and inspire people chelsea and cardiff and you know tom and chats with but at the same time we got well feels today. I call them do that. I'd love to do but i can't do it because the noise and mess. I'm a big concern of mine. It's only there's a pardon my head's neil which says competed on again not to make me sound grandiose and greater on for i am de l. Kuopio et cetera et cetera but when when i take my career heaven grown plants by bed cliche bingo you say at home age six haven't on my first garden aged nine and worked truecard centers on landscaping from sixteen fifteen fourteen birds having been out cutting grass at seven years of age whatever way you want to take it to horticulture four years to go and do what i wanna do do and then i've got a eight gentlemen infected happened last week who apparently watches youtube videos on how to garden and he's telling me that no i know you're wrong because i read this or saudis or watch this on the internet. I suppose with the the phone in on number one number two being the face of your own own garden center which you have operated ruin for an elongated period of time. Are you told at any point in time that you're wrong because of x. Well not right the face as much but you can pick any decisive somebody you can tell that i believe you say to people you. You don't believe what i'm saying. 'cause i'm allowing ba- signed up for some time and you know i'm not push them a bit to say if i will. What is it what we're not connecting them <hes> <hes> but i think that's the filming a massive problem that <hes> experts generally i gather from the media interested so you know because they can invested interest all the time. We're not interested. I just wanna people up with clemson particular plan side. I mean the amazing plants out there. That's why we end rabbits. It's always deliveries going to just not about but yeah. I think it is an issue <hes> but <hes> you have to build trust with everybody. I think the the stopping point for everybody nowadays the next is i trust you prove yourself to me. <hes> so fourteen years on the radio probably starting to do you got. It was actually the question. I wanted to ask very very start. But when was the first time you ended up on radio and how does happen well. It happened <hes> when i happened to bump into the curator of the botanical gardens in sheffield who knows they do the half hour government program like a magazine crookham. It's some things a lot now and he told me into the garden center on think he could see the i'd go good horticulture knowledge <hes> well linden my wife and i'm rich like recruiter called genetics and i and anybody me to do snippets on that and then some got that fight it and somebody else did the <hes> the started a phone in unfortunately the presenter was ill and they said can you come and cover. I'm and i'm still at fourteen years later. So i think in all these things who you know all all the time and he's gone to and which is why i'm still in sheffield and not doing anything okay national because national coming i'm laughing which w have you dabbled pulled into the shell side things neil outside of two reporting from there. I have <hes> worked. <hes> students. Take on us interest replacement. You probably did for nursery and so recalled along. We'll just have to just on the fiftieth. Golden arrow arrive as reputed that <hes> the nursery end laws was their original muster before the new story <hes> i worked for two days on the chelsea's chelsea's times with students and met people george harrison and lots of well-spoken people who have no idea they were because that was a big shot window in those days and we will take you in order to dispatch having them done radio. I've also worked with rain evison on that show stunned to chelsea a couple of times it never down the <hes> <hes> gum producing side but <hes> the more i listen to your show. There's no way i'd ever into doing it <laughter> but i love this show. Why what is made you turn around and say no. I'm glad i never on nor do i want to when it costs you time wise all these shows clash with the busiest. He's time the gum. The gum senses take something to forty five percent of the annual turnover in thirteen week period between march and june. Ah you know how the show has sort of come thick and fast particularly towards the end of about period. I mean i'd look too but i think it's the more i look into the mola. I love listening to you. Watch people monk gregory <hes> the more. I realize this is a specialist yelp great. If you start <hes> and you can build up but i you know i i'd much rather come on them nowadays and give opinions but yeah one thing i would have would the fancy doing it but i i do wanna bring. You just a little bit sideways neal if i can. It's not a bear book star terminology terminology but at gripe not a gripe. I don't get irate. I tend not to get upset. I have four sisters treaters onto lower of the middle child. I'm quite as this mon- attorney. Hoppy is how i would note it on my twitter bio at the same token unless you rob my philosophy which has made of karnataka's on cornflakes. You're pretty much safer department while you're out of dare is on has been a lot of reporting but from the monte dans and yellen pitch marches of this world who attend come out and say well children should garden more. I would see that on two levels which is number. One lie daughter nor nor your daughter is reading the daily telegraph north guardian so you can say all you want but does headlines seem to be directed to the mom on the dodd routed onto the a daughter or the person under twenty years of age. It doesn't really make a difference book congratulations. You've just got an entire page to yourself with photograph you at the top of the earns you kahan set up the national children's gardening which says as far as i'm concerned pretty much depth same thing except for neal grant tens not to grab the headlines as appraised relatively sanely yeah. I think i think you have just for one minute. Dot is is where we are going to leave this episode. Just for a minute neil will be on per probably interest show style. You say not next week but the week after and we will continue on this impromptu. Shall we could have discussed a little bit more <hes> into usual. What do you do for a living type thing and where did did it all start but maybe think because myself a neil know each other a little bit better. It allows me to skip on past. I give you the listener a a little bit more of what you wanna hear a hope you enjoyed it and if you're stuck for anything outside show on twitter facebook dot com forward slash such oh such a com on it's available in all could podcast stars et cetera et. Cetera have a great weekend those that say in degraded dorsey. We'll talk next week uh-huh.

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EP 55: Find Yourself & Ask The Right Questions with Gaffer Andy Lowe

The Indy Mogul Podcast

50:53 min | 3 months ago

EP 55: Find Yourself & Ask The Right Questions with Gaffer Andy Lowe

"Filmmakers my name is Ted in welcome to the PODCAST episode Fifty Five. Now today, we are talking to a division admire. With their films out there in that film is annihilation which given seeing already is the SCI fi film directed by outs Garland who was the same person I. Think such as x Makia and depths. Now, you haven't seen the film already it is stupidly good, but it is also stunningly beautiful. So we were talking a little bit about one the lighting that actually went into the show that if you want to learn a little bit. More about that head on over to the Youtube. Channel orix ideally breakdown of the lighting actually when breakdown scenes independently. But today in the podcast when we talking a little bit about how he became, Kaffir how andy actually went up from starting in Sheffield London and working on bigger projects along the way, and likewise when it talked about a couple of lessons they learned growing up on set things that he would actually pass on starting. So without much further. Do you guys episode fifty five of the control the podcast? Let's do this. I think this before, but we have a lot of annihilation fans here. So we're super excited to talk about annihilation. And he looked at the show. It's it's good to hear. Great. Thanks for asking me to come on my excited to. Talk about talk about an isolation it's quite nice just to think of because it was for sure. Yeah. I guess a few years ago but it solve interested into like you know. Think about to go back and solve look at it and think about what we were doing at the time and. I guess how things have changed in the industry since sunny solve interested for me as well. So you have really happy to talk about it. What do you mean by the way that? Oversee with everything that's going on in the world. Has a lot of things have changed but annihilation was before that. So what what, what, what do you mean I guess? Because so much of the work I do now is. I've through. Netflix. Streaming services. Are Disney On Apple and. Amazon the I think at the time. What happened with? An isolation as far as I understand. Probably, facet people who can solve say exactly what happened with the release of it but Because Netflix's bolted from parliament. It was all big deal that it was a net flix film suddenly and. From memory and I might be misremembered a little bit but that was a big deal at the time but now it's sort of Oh that's pretty standard. Practice NETFLIX's buys movies. Young. Now. The practice seems to have happened with. Corona virus that films Just gone straight onto the streaming service. So at Disney on the site, you know they just skipped the faces because nobody will go to the bits until you you know the way dot changes happened. So quickly I guess I guess relations I have. Three and a half years ago four years three and a half years ago the shoot. You know that's not that long, but it feels like. We've really shifted into that. Well, that's yeah it's interesting because it's such a it's such a visual film you know like the visual style of annihilation is so move like burned into my brain. You know even when we were talking about it in the movie came up, it's strange to hear that it was three and a half four years ago it doesn't feel that long ago. Yeah. I still remember the visuals very clearly. Exactly. Mortgage. On the yeah shoot I have to take I took a dial. Party at the weekend, and then we did maybe even just three days of the shoes. So I always know exactly when she wedding your wedding in the middle of. Yeah because it was very near the end. We did a small wedding and then like a big policy. So the. Game, everybody together and having the Party and then also getting married but we didn't know the ceremony was quite small. So we. And then there was three days left of the shoe and I. Think a lot of shop. I think install yelled at all. Parts of it at least I'd have to look at the schedule maybe for memory I. think we were pretty much shooting. Too because you've got you know, yeah, we did shoot story because you've got the full five main Kaos. Almost because of this kind of like. Hara. Element of it I I guess they get killed off WanNa time you. saw made sense I guess as far as scheduled to start with. The whole cast and it's slow move forward with the story because I travel through that will as we were. Traveling with. Them and you shot it all you started all chronologically was kinda logical. Exactly. Because it makes us always like a really I've only ever really done it. Twice I think it was an isolation and England showing story older. As. Well, because partly because of the way that she went but also because of the the young in it that it was baffled him to understand the story. I could see that the story of annihilation it it could be pretty confusing if you're shooting it out of order. As a crew member though I feel like you'd be particularly interesting and a deeply there's a benefit shooting things in order in that way and she. Thinks that they want for the actors and the Director? There is I. Don't think. Teams I guess because they move through different. Well different different zones different locations. That we would just go okay today in in this. Location select whenever there was a school when they find. With a swimming pool is. Go The I. For like three or four days, and you just shoot all of our stuff together and then okay. Where are they next just okay. Now they go. So the next saw back in the jungle of the forest kind of. You know which you in there for three or four days. So there's no I. Guess there was no good reason not to. Because it wasn't like they never go to places I. Guess on other films I've done. That's just. If there's A couple of different story threads. That you don't. Go all the scenes. Because I, he'd never go pop to where they came. Solving remembering how we did it. If I'm remembered it roll. Right I you're. You're right. I can't think of a single scene where they come back to a location in an isolation. Yeah maquis. Actually and they just the end the beginning of the in the hospital so that stuff I think we. On the same day? No. So. This stuff with Benedict Bond I. think they reshot the ending because I don't think it from memory. I don't I was involved in that pickup shoot I. Think there was like A. Just where just rebuilt not set. and. So we feel like as a as a lighting team that you know grip and lengthy feel like you guys could walk through and be able to say, okay, we'll yesterday you know daytime looked like this and we're going to I feel like. One had sent us a bunch of kind of plots and being on diagrams of all the planning that went into the actual lighting for this kind of film. But did it feel like there were things or like little visual cues or like letting things you can do that changed and evolved throughout the process of the film because I feel like in the same way that when you're you're director, DP you if you get to watch the story unfurl in front of you from day to day. I can see the there's like a benefit there. was there any kind of benefit like that for for lending I think? Generally seat. That the gaffer would be also involved in this, you're looking. You're always thinking about the time of day. That it is in the story I even if it's not. Scripted that it's one particular time you know sometimes scenes we'll say that evening Dusko morning and obviously day and night, but sometimes. It just as. And so we could kind of work I. What does that necessarily mean in you need to? I. Guess You would break I would in the. Cloud. From break the script islands off look like okay. Well, if we said this was later in the day, why is the knock on effects of the story? For that Actually you might come unstuck an overview art. I guess. You know say the scene sites so to go back to an isolation. They count and they and they come out of the tense. and. You would assume that it's morning because somebody waking up and getting out of a ten slept over I, know can open it ten but I guess to think about how you might I remember whether we said that was Molineaux. No. I. Think you could say that actually weirder if it's not Mormon. And somebody's got out of A. Ten they've been in and she doesn't know she's like. disorientated. and. So are you saying that the chronological like the daytime? Nighttime. Order of scenes to a certain degree, it was almost like you could kind of throw some things out the window a little bit and be like it's okay the. The. The Go. Yeah. But you. Then you need to know the scripts and decide. Okay. Well, that'd be fun if we if we. Have someone getting an avid ten in the moment he would have a low sun coming in. Yes. Streaming in through like Oh if we put the Sun Haya. We put the light that's creating the sun high. Then it's all weird and not fits annihilation. Witness the. Camel a high. Almost, top-flight some I can't remember whether we did this because we won't. This is me solve almost. Going through that decision making process where you might. Be. Interested, can we do that but then you might look script and Oshawa five scenes they need to travel. Need to trouble. Needs to suggest that they've walked for eight hours to get to the next place. and. When they get to the next place, we know that it's mid-afternoon. So all we can't do that. Should we need? Okay on this time needs to be low and it needs to be more normal maybe so I think for me the. The. The saw them. Going through the script for you to kind of be looking for. As far as like I guess clues, things that you can try things that you can. Do and I guess the advantage to go back to I. Hope it's not a question about. The story all side of things. To the advantage of I guess you. You know that you're not. Going to shoot yourself in the foot I. Guess because I know one of the jobs occasionally you might like something we've done a disc field and then subscription. Script changes. Made the You know a scene you haven't felt yet the either before or after, but relates directly to that save. You Know My. Time of day then you might have. A. Problem. So the is. Really messed up the continuity comes in Utah Yeah Yeah because you've been a bit you know you. Bold and all yeah, we could do this but I. Think probably just yeah. I think you can just be bolder with it because you saw no yet whatever decisions you're making. Them and then. You don't necessarily have to worry about the. You know the. Aftermath. Of It. So yeah, that's so interesting because you always know the last place where coming from and we always kill were coming from here. So this will be. We know that these things connect. We're not so worried about everything matching and continuity. That's interesting. I, we're getting. We're getting deep into annihilation and we're having fun with this. Before, we jump into that on the video segment there's other things I want to talk about but. My last question for an isolation before we we come back with the videos. Was the. How much of it was shot on a stage versus location because I I really can't tell when I'm looking. Exteriors Yeah it's okay. If you don't remember I I do I do because. I would say. It was Off the top of my head, my feeling memory would be about fifty fifty. I, think every day and I can tell you what in is that went on the stage. Because obviously, all the activities with exteriors while locations. So the interiors was whether. The school. College in the UK weather swimming pool lives. What else did we go? And then were you guys actually in the forest for a solid I? Guess you could not really afford that was the. Challenge as opposed but not necessarily other than trying to create the lights it saw. I think it was meant to be Florida. And it was all shot in west London. So they never know it was not shown except West, London. except. For the NC quiz where we went to Norfolk, which saw very east of London up on the coast. And so. That was I guess the challenge was trying to make these places looked like. Yet Florida America basically the US. Auditing for Sean, but it was all. Yeah. There's a couple of wet pinewood studios and London. There's another big area COUPLA, which is you know the reason it's called Pinewood is because black pockets full of pine trees there's lots of pine trees and this all Rhododendron Bush's is a few different. Love it was shot and a couple of other difference of those. Great Windsor Park is whether saw swamp? So you guys were on a studio lot but it was it was like a wooded area with. West of London which at an. Yup. A few kilometers wide and. The. Of Area but all either Pinewood. Oh in West Westland of the exteriors. But Yeah I think. So they're all the Davis because I guess half the film is exterior. In Syria that get a house with a side. The the questions are popping up because I have a lot of questions about the softness of how you got that look outside with the lighting but. I'll come back to that a little bit. Let me rewind to I think the thing that I think a lot of people isn't that it's It's You know how did you start your career into into lighting and becoming a gaffer because I know a lot of people that are very passionate about lighting that listen to this and I think the the entry points and the ways by which people find this career there we have never heard the same story once. Yeah Yeah. I guess in the UK that was always the traditional was that you would become an apprentice lighting company. And then they would get you qualifications and training in and you would learn the equipment just mainly by loading trucks. But when I started, dot was start up traditional route. which most electricians took with starting to I guess and? And so there another way in which is now. Imagine. It's now the more common way of people getting in, which is actually A. But there's different routes in one common ways that through film school. Three students I went to university in Sheffield in the north. Of England and studied did film studies Salvage you'll on his joint on degree, which was film in English by the end did straight film was why graduated with and so in towards the in the final year of that. I started working on some short films and some. Some music videos? Ball Volva free because I was at university still. So I could saw. I didn't need to like. White yet think of a career. Yeah an I short films. And then the next shelf the week later. was a spot wasn't electrician. Yeah. Then just then finished university. stayed in Sheffield for I. Guess Another five or seven years, but started to look for work and kind of. You know would get. You know days on. TV jobs there was. Quite a lot films hopping and chef in. Sheffield, at the time. There was a real. It's still really strong film symbol. There's a phone call the full monty. That was done. was like a big success with Sean Sheffield and not dodge that was happening while I was at university I think shoot. There was loss of people wanting to come. So there was there was lots of chances of work calm. You know interest in films. Interesting. Projects to be. Around. Starts in Iowa. You know it was exciting and. Yeah when You know qualifications went to college qualifications and off you know. Because this is all pre this is all pre university. This is pre post just post university so I guess two years. I saw. Not drifted into by was doing some of this work before I finished university. So this is all after. I guess of new what we're going to work as the electric lights and technician in. You know in different cities on different shoes just walnut who as a week at the most if he could find out solve work. Because I wasn't a well known didn't know that many people and you get to know a few people get more days. But was also doing. Other shoots in mainly Sheffield as gaffer but like low low small budgets off occasionally pay who often. Yeah. Just something to cut your teeth anything. Did you study lighting and college or was it well I. Guess. Or? Because the coast I did was actually mole. FIT, theory. Majority like theoretical film studies, but then hard. Element of practical filmmaking. Wish you basically in the final year, you could make a short. Ten? minute. Film I think we have like you. Even like five rolls of sixteen mill saw give him and that was your stock needed to make a film. With the mold but like a few hundred pounds budget. And so that was the side of it. So there was a small element of filmmaking all not coast, but there was also what what the Schultz I worked on. My final year with the. Ma. Shelf films the masters. Jones and they were always looking for, and so you know like I guess like any film school they have like you know you can be Director Dop Produce Making Study Siren than that. They don't have. You. Generally, don't have crew. No, there's not a gaffer film school. You know you got. Going on all the film. So Ueli I saw what's on I. Guess You know Maybe ten or more shelf films like back to bike generally as. But just on the shelves so. I almost thought like I go. How did you? Yeah you. A Gasping Film School Program Yeah I did it. Sorry. Oh, that's amazing because you just go and work on the films. Also you weren't even enroll. No. I. Actually because the weirdest thing. Was a lot of the cinematography students they were into the camera that you saw have just come along and do the lights in and maybe. Whatever because all the count Yeah that was not obsessed but that was. So many DOP's I know so many do fees the just the only care To stop waiting scares them. Yeah. Yeah. Not Not all for sure but Yeah. Weirdly I. don't even know how they stop them but I ended up even being the. On. Wall. No. Maybe two short films for the film school because they didn't. You know I guess maybe like six alright direct says and only five zero ps something. So they cut it they didn't have. So I ended up shooting where to even though films go ended up in a couple of. Things which but that was hilarious he. To issue or anyhow that's an awesome deal. Yeah. So you can make mistakes, they didn't there was A. I guess the next part of the I don't know the all region story of me. Was the Side to get what there was A. Basis that Sheffield because of this low budget Film seeing the assault happening where but where people actually making features that were released and. You know getting. Hot putsches the I know there was a couple of produces I got no one of. WHO Is Bobby Ryan. Who's like half of what films made this is England. Yeah. That was a really low budget short film as it. I think the this film school, the Masters Degree to film the gift, solve a both beast the grudge people that graduated just before I started working was really strong gear of people like so. Much tighter. Annihilation that Vo. potty. Dop of the relation was was from the year from Sheffield Scene Yeah. Robert. Graduates and I think a year before. He graduated I think left a move to London and was doing commercials other features but that was basically The GOP from. Bobby was the producer that was woman postseason agenda WHO's the director. David. Mitchell D was assigned ricotta that there was this little group of really strong. Year I guess I'm they've all gone on to like caviar careers really successfully. And this show especially. Sheffield still seen as a really strong independent film scene and was it just starting when you were there? Yeah. I guess it must have been before because it had a you know a good a and a good saw be a good university of Lincolnshire, it has the university yeah. Yeah. I. Guess Because of. The success of the full monty than the. Not really held, but the full monty must've come from. Somewhere else before. That I wouldn't have just happened like. They did the full months, the film saying I. So I don't I guess because my university time I don't. Really know chef is like just before then. It definitely Definitely. has always had a good. Independent. Saw I've. Seen Yeah. So you know I guess there's a city I guess it's Always. been. been part of the city dot seeing I. Guess. The culture. Two cities and those like you know there's the city and there's like the arts quarter where all the people that Sheffield. Up and then eventually the the rich the rich people live there and then. All of I don I haven't lived there for like ten years I wouldn't say what it like now and they. So maybe a super gentrified and you know like everyone else that you never know. Yeah. That's definitely for the time. I was that was like a real. It was really part of the city. So. Yeah. You're working. Yup, continue. Link we've oh polity. Yeah. Got Group of people is they made a low budget film together. Called Jelly. I suffered Koga some of it. They shut it in late two weeks. Trump's whenever they could get the money together. We'll get them all together but yeah. shot. So I knew vote from that. and then. Bobby who produced. This I guess what I was. GonNa say was that. He. was really good almost like there's some things he said to me joined that she will join that time always really stuck with me which the one was. Thinking about doing light low budget stuff that you can make mistakes and nobody really knows do Korea. Nobody's GonNa know that you know. I forgot to SOM-. BYGONE NOT STAND ON JELLY BELLY. and T to make sure you don't. Just, follow it just a little bit. You know but nobody's. Really. Cares. But put somebody's on blinds is important. Quick PSA, for? Everybody. Please thanks. Let's. Health and safety. On also. I think, bobby? Advice that Bobby gave me that? I if you're going to work on low-budget no budget so But. He's a budget for lives. Try and get something you've not used before like from the lighting I speak to the Lighting Company and say, no I'd like I haven't used this. I'd like to try that. Can I have one of those the puck is just so you can see how things work can get you. Hums learn something I. Think I would. With led lights I saw more important. Than ever this is. This is tungsten Kina flows like. The lights were. Pretty base and our basic but. Those three types of life. But now with led this every week, there's like a knee someone alerts now thing. So really. Yeah like I really got. So when you. So basically, it sounds like a couple, the the class above you moved to London point and started working on projects as well. Did you make the move as well or no? I think I stayed in. Just. Kept working you know. Because it was probably a good time to be. In Sheffield There wasn't. There wasn't. Anything. So, there was like you know you try and get something some welcome. So there wasn't necessarily at least when I was starting. My career I like to move. On because you know these are the cities that you could go and work in. There was like a film added in. Liverpool like this is England eventually go. As I started to become known I saw I did a low budget film and Liverpool. And then through that. This is England which was like a big break. At, the time by. The time didn't quiet. This Donghai big about film is going to. Be How successful how much is going to change things. But even that. So again. Like to go back to our Ryan from Wolf that was more. So that was the link. From the you know the really low budget film I did with him, which would probably be like five years before. I was done on. This is England. Then will happen because of the success of this is England. That MOM's. Shoes. So I was on the film I want some liberal was called deadman's collins film that they did the full. This is England shoes. which is another thing those fell. Because of that success that Wolpert with those two films. They then You know they were doing more films and then for a while, I was a gaffer. Did loss of walk film. So I probably did not maybe six eight, maybe ten even shoots with wall. As. They were like really on the way up and so I was in. journey. As well and then not so me move into London. So this is like the you basically a crew of people within. Yeah. Yeah. Ended up getting bigger and bigger projects you're part of that. When they made the move you moved with them. Production company based in Sheffield. Then decide to do everything they did wasn't Sheffield. Wales and Scotland and then carjacked London as well so that Was the time moved. To London not so is it always was always guessing? Was it always being a leading technician then? Yes, you finish. stowing. Yeah. My story now, the thing every. Is. After, the university I'm working. You know smaller. The Sheffield. Stuff. I'd always seemed like I. Would you know eventually I'd want to be a DOP fanatic hoppy gaffer book my career like albeit eventually something will kick I. Hear a lot of people say. Ashim. Yeah. In a few years once I feel more confident on one side light. No things once I've got more experienced, something will kick off. Later I'll merge the two. Yeah exactly. Yeah. I'll I'll step into being a dop and then By the time. I think. was still I when after this is England, I wasn't a phone call full lions. Thing I was with a brilliant director co Christmas who's like Nine over here. And I can only remember exactly where was we were shooting in Spain. and. About Party Jovan this shoot over that just having drinks and the ball and chatting with him and I said, you know he asked me what you've. Just us. You know. Was it do you think you think you will be dop to start Awhile. And I experience. When You for the? For something to happen on new I remember exactly what he? said he said That was called Lol Crawley. There's a couple of days you know like we I've been working with Eric Wilson on Koa new did this is England? Christmas. said. You know like those guys they don't question India's I just go I wanted to be the I'm going to dop they just saw. Gone with it. Be. The case for everybody. So this is just My version of the. Show I don't have that like. I don't WANNA try. It you know that thing but I'm just I'm pay. That's what I'm going to do and I was. Thrown by that. So maybe think Oh what do I do if I'm not going to be what do I do but then I saw about it was like, oh, but the thing I never questioned never even thought that was being Augusta like us. Sitting I always did and wanted to do, and then there was A. A little. Light Bulb went over my head and I was like Oh never questioned being Gotha, and so then I think that point is when I was like Oh, that's when of. The really good. Enough is great I really enjoy it. Every aspect of job I get something I will. And I just. I don't know maybe. been maybe something will eventually. Convincing myself I might. Be I don't think I gotta be honest to me I. think it's I. Think it's the most interesting workout. There is lighting film, but that's you know it's everybody has their own things that they think are more interesting but. I don't really tell you that it's a job to nobody really knows that it's the thing that you can do when you're starting and getting your feet wet. And because it's so higher just feels like this is the natural progression. It has to go an end with being a DP, but it's not true. I feel like there's a lot of gaffer's that we talked to that. Just that is what they love, and this is what I want to do and I don't want to go do this part of work. The same way that a lot of GP's don't WanNa be directors or anything like that. Maybe, everyone has the. Version of the I guess. That's where I think Mike where I'd like to be, and then as you start your career as you joined the industry and you saw maybe learn how the industry. Was a bit more. You're kind of like. It's not quite what I imagine you know. I don't even know where the way I've heard this from but you know when people, Start Ri-, not everyone wants to be an owner director. The to. What I want to be in the film industry what do you? You don't know anything about it. You think that's all that you cannot direct their the on. Then you start and you know it was like. You know it's the film industry as a whole industry whole. There's other jobs here than acting directing and eating top Rahman in an apartment. So you know there's there's a there's multiple avenues and there's a whole middle area that people can work. Can I ask for as when he started coming up, do you have any mentors or anything like that? They help bring you up and for people that are kind of getting their feet that? WanNa be able to work on bigger jobs and I think a lot of people that listen to this podcast especially are it's a lot of aspiring filmmakers. So you know there's a lot of feel it in the comments this eagerness to like how do I love Alaba? How do I do bigger work and? Guess, what were what we're some of those keys and moments and things that were helpful for you guess mantles. Those. So when I did this Film Jelly Belly and I said I co gathered at the other guy that was the Gotha we solve. You know because it was they shut it in Chung. So there was a couple of we'd worked together who advocate do what days? was. Called Dave. The the gaffer in Sheffield at the time. I guess when I was started it know very much about lighting equipment a there was a small. Independent Film Saw Studio Production Place. And I did causes and I went into like a show of course online and Dave was teaching the teaching lighten on. Dave's way of teaching lights. It wasn't like. It wasn't like. This is how you know a soft lie or this is a hard line or light. His way of teaching was like how to not embarrass yourself on the set. So he would say okay. So this is like a flagstone. Sometimes like what hard so woven because. They get stuck versity and so if. You're in that situation with stoke and people are watching just turn your back and they won't be able to see that. Collapse. To not. Look. Stupid. 'cause don't so that yeah, I guess I remember after twenty years. So that sort of. Stuck with me. So funny. There was another guy for that. I worked with a lot in. Sheffield On My side broadcasts, offshoots select sports, and you know news item they have a studio of on. Location Yeah there was a the gathered. Under the day fetching pave Kozo was always was a big influence. Saw Valley on the way he got the I think I saw do things that way cannot have hey, his voice. In my head when when I'm doing things when I'm asking for things 'cause yeah he suddenly died guess five or six years ago. Sorry. But yeah, I can still hear hands sometimes. You know. When I voted tips are these more theory tips or are these more turn your turn your back so the producer Tuffah. This is what I want. This is the way we're going to do you know straightforward I guess you know you have high expectations. Of you know if he told you to go and set up, you know in the kind of commentary bulbs. You was expected to know because you've done it before. He was you know, Oh, you should have seen like you know if you come in on like. On the jobs, you should have paid attention to how it was done now so. He made us pay attention I, guess because you know. You know you saw new AV to explain things too much to you. would. There was something you hadn't done before wanted w saw lent his way of doing things and he wasn't. He wasn't like a sergeant major or any soft like. Strict but you saw new the way that he should would want things done. Yeah. Okay. So that was an influence as. A big influence. Yeah. Just to like learn how you do things like you know not. Not. So I guess not just too many questions ask questions but not like. You know it can be annoyed if someone's hate Yo di generally. And your warning. Wanted. Yeah I. think that's the same music efforts. You don't WanNa be asking loads of questions. How would you want? This done they say we wanNA. Soft Light. You know you. Can. Look at high light should be you know Work with look good. Yeah. Yeah you don't need them to tell you how to listen they. Process. I, WANNA I WANNA jump into an isolation but the thing is I want to ask real quick. So things that you've lit though are. Kind of vastly different in style right? I mean like. I know you're part of the teams on a twenty eight weeks later earlier on and then a working on. Things like Paddington, and then move from that to annihilation which I can't think of two more different movies. Pretty. Similar. To me there are you kidding me? Already. Actually there was. Maybe a quick who was a funny. Version yeah. You Know I. See Cgi them so that you treat them. You're right there. So. When we started. Annihilation just maybe we just started to shoot. And We're talking about. With involved dop, he might not remember this, but we all remember Al team because we all sit around and he said something similar conversation came over Fanie said God I hate I hate that I can I swear throwing? Okay on the PODCAST. Yeah. Of course of course. Yeah I'm sorry I thought you were in the middle of the quota thought rob was saying, can I? He said. God I hate up. Movie. And we want some Partington Jesus that's a bit. Strong. He really didn't like Paddington while why is he? So like it? He said it may be worn twice I caught up and. WHO'S GONNA Really if having. To. Really work. Against Potty he was what he didn't. Confused and so you said, you hate that batmobile became. The Reverent Leonardo DiCaprio As well okay. I thought he did it like. Nobody. I to jump. Always. Really. Yeah. Sorry. Go on. Do you feel that you feel like there's there's always a link between a lot of the films that Link this just saw three you like it's your work. Do you feel like as a gaffer, you have A. because. That's the thing. Is that when I you know the body of work that you've done so to me as an outsider, it seems so different right like what? CGI bear. One. Thing that Paddington and Annihilation having common and then the crown right like. I wonder. Do you feel like as a gaffer you have like a certain like that. You do bring some kind of through line that there is sort of a fingerprint of like. More details we hear this from yeah. Yeah you know. I think you take a lot of your late. I. Guess you take your cues from the GOP and the I guess the thing about the UK for the last few years has been. You know those. Kind of been a shift it might be shifting back a little bit maybe but where. A lot of predictions for a while you know the GOP would come with the director or They all they would come from outside of the UK. Cloud I guess they would come without you. You know they would come without the crew and the production give. You, know which crew up It was a UK production. and. As Gotha. For a while joy, I got some wet with quite a few. Different DOP. Bob and maybe for like a few years I was in sync with just one the which was irate Wilson they shot putting and we did. We just worked together all the time. But then there was solve a spell where you know. Different abuse were coming in and so you. Got To. Their style might be slightly different employees. Slightly different would be very different qualified wall that taste was but. You can't. Again. I guess the thing if you have the GOP tally knew how to do things all the time because they just don't have the time they got away with the director. Department. Of Defense. Excused from them, but then go and do your. Work yourself figure it out yourself and so I guess. There's like a through threat in the. Making decisions and as you in the know each other like a trust saw forms and y'all you solve understand while they like and don't like Ben. than. US less less questions and you can offer more. Mo- solution. To them with like okay. This is a weak where she in this scene I thought we'd do like this. Is Not Okay and I and I know from previous things that you've kind of like these sort of looks. In the back. Yeah, exactly. To offer this, you might have done it. If annihilation again like a week before we did another without side, we did we want to do some of the same thing and then you just get like a yes. Oh Yes you great. You know star ordering the equipment think of the Labor and all that. You know then decisions come up tonight that if it's a no. And there's no that thoughts than you sort of have not come sation. Taking not all make decisions based on that new information but. I think. I guess. You're still making your own decisions not way saw the threat is solve. Through you I guess through anybody will. No matter what you're going to bring, you're going to bring your your habits. Just your decision making like this quite interesting. I was looking at an isolation again, I can solve remember. Exactly the decision I was surprised looking at it again, high much at least I think I can remember because I think it's because you've made those decisions yourself because you had to do the. Same decisions again and. A. Different person you might know more. Have more experience. Created. Utah up the same ideas. You know so. Yeah. I think. That's definitely hopefully there's like a threat where you also in the you know in the in the shoot, it should be. Finished project you know. I. Would I guess that would apply to everybody? Hopefully, every crew member would have something. In it. I'm excited about it. We should go jump into this film now. Okay. I usually ask one question and the last question I. Always this is. If we're sitting here and Allah annihilation the louvred windows behind you just fly open and you get sucked into there and there's this crazy shimmering effects and everything is wiped and all of a sudden we're sitting down and you see yourself. In College Gasping one of those ten films that you were giving at the time and you're helping out and the saddest cleared because everybody's left for lunch and it's just you sitting there. Maybe you're you've just turned your back and you're trying to close one of these dance to make sure that the producer doesn't see it. But the producers, not even there. He's over at lunch and you have a minute to walk over and. Give some advice about what is what is to come What are the words that you would say before? Of course, you know the whole effect where is often were sitting back here. Probably say you should go get lunch because everyone else has got lunch. And? Interiors. because. Look just pay attention. Why are you not looking around I'd probably have this is what David Gafa would come in and be like you're not paying attention. Everyone else has gone to lunch at your just tire. Looking around the studio, go and get some lunch because you need to eat. You know there's a whole afternoon become. You might go home. You know if you're hungry, you'll just get tired you know made the decisions you know so I guess I. Don't know that's probably strange. I think something like. Yourself. What are you doing? This is this is a long run a need to watch your health. Yeah I guess I guess like. Another thing I remember from when I was starting and I don't know. Where I had this I think in the film I heard I remember reading something that really stuck with me, which is there's nothing in the film industry. The Yukon, there's no secret to the film industry. There's nothing you can't explain within five hundred minutes. You know the pollen industry there's just lots and lots of these little things that you have to. Loud. So if you like. You know if if You know. Young. LITTLE, May. Didn't know the difference between daylight and tungsten lies I could explain that to them in five hundred minutes. I couldn't explain lighting the whole of lighting is you can't have to break it down component pieces and nothing you have to break filmmaking down into its component pieces as well but don't be intimidated by the whole thing. Yeah. That one thing you would say to to you back in time I think that'd be so many that you just kind of like I've always relevant al point I think would be. What I'd. Say because it's just too much to solve tryin some of you've just got to. I guess you just have to try and understand as much as you can. But you never don't be don't be intimidated by the big thing know that there's a bunch of little puzzles. As I stepped up on the on jobs. The the thing I took from us the Joe Bigger is like that. You don't. The equipment doesn't really change. You know there's just more of it and there's more people but not let. The still lies I recognize either led now all tungsten lives. But they don't particularly there's not. You. Know. Different light different types of lying. On My. SMALLVILLE news. Lighting. And that's also tasting. You know experience however I don't there's not like. Again. There's not a secret to it. annoyingly. No I I love that. So just you know again, we very often on this show, but it's so instead instead since there is no secret. Shut up and go get lunch. Didn't just go go get some lunch take care of yourself. It's GonNa be fun also because if the And, the director DP and the via fax supervisor into each other at lunch they might be having a conversation. You can over here to know what's happening later so I've always thought is like not. Again. Even Joey, like way where you position yourself. You know I often lights if he saw with maybe with the department. Locations, depending on the the shoot because then you're just revived and you're in those conversations with them. You saw. I can see I can see the that I don't know why I just love the idea of just someone rapping a rapping cease to enter flag stand and then just a future version of them shows up and is like hey, go on. I. Could See yeah, I, can see what you're doing. Don't think don't think that's not got noticed attorney. Just, makes him oil. Guys there. You have it. There's episode with Andy Low t-thank think technician. Now if you liked this episode, don't forget. We've got that upset over on Youtube where we actually do full ending breakdown of a bunch of scenes from the movie I had my mind blown a couple of times which means that it was a good day because that doesn't happen that often lighting and I learned a lot of really cool things from this brilliant brilliant person. So if you like the subset, go give Andy some love Tom Thank you for coming up the show it was an absolute blast hanging. I also own announce real quick that we also have the indy mogul read it, which we officially just launched up again. So if you WANNA be a part of the community if you've been listening to this and for whatever reason I don't know what you're doing out of your. Mind listening to this voice all day if you WANNA. Go hang out and read it instead. You can actually see us we're going to be hanging out on Youtube on that. Read it channels you can see us over there poster filmmaker means plus your stuff racing posting some exclusive content as well as taking questions for upcoming guests and kind of announcing new people that we have coming onto the show which there are many team killing it. There are some really really cool guests coming on. That last head on over to ready dot com slash art slash indy mogul with alive I I. I've said thank you so much for listening. Guys put together having absolutely amazing day staying safe. Of course of course, we will get you in the neck.

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#SHUARS REVIEW [EMIRATES CUP] Feat. @Angeell_Gabriel

Up Gunners NG

09:40 min | 5 months ago

#SHUARS REVIEW [EMIRATES CUP] Feat. @Angeell_Gabriel

"The, Own. A gratitude Philo goodness funds are Krizner's John Deed. Also don't put in the all right all right. My name number change my name to remain at Ngondo. Get Wings engine fly. Bush Marta. Meana fly ball Ark Angel Gabriel all right relationship. Monsanto before a game will help off on Sheffield United yes, so good game. Good game more see. kudos today scored wouldn't make a Lotta a selectively used for the spectacle game. On to an extent, I must see a d. kind of Pleased to? Michaela Toss selection for this FA Cup, yes, to an estimate, the kind of pleased because. Right now forget this epic up now. One of the best opportunities to get to go into the. European competition as happened barking. Boo, because right about down our position for the. EPL Nudity to encourage it so I see. Every opportunities matters laws about now assess additional unity. We asked not really really need to utilize to Mitchell yes. European. Feud bore European competition favorable for us next season as it happened. Alright are going by dispatch Aguirre happen with an awesome Sheffield, united. I do so massively impressed with the performances of the modern decor Maitland Nice yes. I do impressed in performances McLean is I never saw it coming. You can drag into something yes. New Forgets. Hector Bella, rain. Now false choice of arsenal when it comes to the position to play to the forget, midland is was giving opportunity to plead up article opposition when Hector Villa renew date, but the question is when to bellary came back. We see a little bit better difference. That Hector Bellary really really need to. Occupy in possession you understand, but from the look of teeth right about now it seems as do. Michaela, Nuys. McLean is is doing e kind of well right now. I like what today hopper for low wing, it Iran truly truly shows the everybody to work hard for me to hold onto the Foster Jesse now. The competition up allowing very very encouraged I really like him, but guess onto I notice for a particular game, and for that particular wing especially. The Colombo between mechanize on Nicholas Peppy Black Yes for a look of Montauk say hundred percent. And Nice budnick juicy. All fifty percents over hundred. Be Like the performance up glowing between Midland nights on Nicholas. Fifty percents of one hundred like it tally. Ideo key blackety all right. Because midnights is on Nicholas Peppy. Get a kind of collaborative kind of boredom. Plead up clubbing while like on. Despotic log in really really prove Assi. Nicholas because in lots to offer instead arsenal. But. I wonder. Old, distill wound up because. I don't know if he did consistent enough to prove to. Also yes, he really was wide in for us. No. No No Forget Fox's Sheffield, united. Fantastic team decision at least for this is. The focus of before born on the. On break because of Coronavirus Sheffield United. We're doing perfectly okay. More comeback the too good again. Yes, before before leave shifty tonight. They've neurotic sister position for inside. Premier League. Mistaken. So the MINUTIAE of credit. For inside Premier League. So I just sit there moss. It threatening team. You almost done now on an important NBC Michaela to win this particular. Give them to be very nice confidence for Arsenal homeowners. Michelet, it as who but added who, because victory brings a lot of confidence in the team. Now. It's of our midfield. Yes, I'll meet in a week Medicare of accurate bottle extent one wanted to give them hundred one hundred percent in because Sheffield united. We're not good in the midfield. Actually speaking, yes, there were not too good in a midfield so and it's what you do for climate feed. You would be like if you put in small, you could be like you put your best. But I still like me. michelet still walk on midfield. The confidence of our midfield is a kind of locking now committed the substitution he made. It was the kind of encouraging Bodine I- wasn't to encourage to it's. Removing from that. Particular game. Yes got, so cadel said. We're removing ALEXSANDR. Lacoss it for particular I can give us a whole lot of problems. Because creativity. Experiencing. Our in line became a problem for awesome Bokassa not get a best time of a game, but I still kind of happy, because inasmuch as visit to get in the best game as usual for this for the return of this is in. At least we saw new performances from the boys took it about Nicholas. Talking boss Dinosaur BIOS Deccan about wheelock. Yes, he did before muscles outstanding the game. So I kind of happy now, the performance only rotational it on the rotational inhibition. Elude Wiki. Week I would assume are peasants performers it? Rotates. Now Comedian Dennis very good fantastic goal. Yes, giving us a victory Goo Samson a very nice for him, because it was as a morale booster for him one and it will boost in in confidence in the seem no forget the goal, no one of the most par amounting when it comes to a team kind of plea. So ourselves Don Ilan also now a morale boost to call a dinosaur bias for a particular game and just see right now. Don't qualify for fall and hopefully. Would not be calm for the semi finals. Boats from a look of these. It seems as do not Nah Nah. Manchester City would meet. Yes, the draws out no Marchesi to the meet. Eurostar Right now, using a much as I do good meat, I will like Asna. Go Up article argument fearless Newt. Zuhdi kilos nephew. Far from the mono to go ahead of my should us a hold of my shuttle. Sorry, my shadows and showed us. I will see like two more for the one will happen between Calcutta on Matthew Gwyn doozy. Indiscipline, want promoted with fist by so many US and also. Money just so on extent, still really need to. 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Falcons Injury Update - Wed Oct 21, 2020

The Falcoholic

10:52 min | Last month

Falcons Injury Update - Wed Oct 21, 2020

"This is the VALCO hauling podcast the official podcasts Atlanta Falcons on the espy podcast network W. This is the injury update. The tober twenty-first for the upcoming Falcons versus Lions Game Week Seven of the twenty twenty season. Let's start with visitors Detroit. Lions. They come in with a record of two and three. They are our next seen north opponent our third one so far this year we have the packers yet to go at this point. We have faced the bears of course, the Vikings who gave us our first victory in week six on the road. And they come in pretty banged up and actually some of their injuries are notable. They're ones we should pay attention to as the week develops because these are guys are stars and their impactful starters. So let's start with the players that did not practice on Wednesday I up defensive end trey flowers with a wrist injury. This is going to be a big impact if he cannot play on Sunday, he is their best pass rusher. He is one of their top tier guys on that defense and. Him being out is going to be a huge advantage for Atlanta so. Definitely a name to keep an eye on he he had a big game on Sunday. In their win and honestly, this could be something where with the Falcons injury woes so far the season. Him Missing would be a huge benefit to the offense. Next up starting wide receiver Marvin Jones junior within the injury Again, he played on Sunday and. We're GONNA have to see how he goes through the rest of this week. With this falcons. Secondary. Aj Terrell. Kindle Sheffield Oliver. This is a big deal so you cannot go on Sunday again, this this is going to favor. The Falcons defaults as they're trying to find their stride after that impressive game. In Minnesota, the certainly WanNa follow that up at home against the Lions and taking out one of the top receivers for Matthew Stafford is going to be obviously beneficial. Center Frank Rag now he he may actually be the best offensive Lineman for the lions. He is the number two ranked offensive LINEMAN PER PF. And he's a part of this crucial. Offensive Line. That's keeping Matt Stafford Cleaner this year than the has been in previous years. He is out with a groin injury did not practice on Wednesday. So again, another name to keep on the list to see if he is able to make the game or not. Finally, a name Falcons fans will recognize cornerback Desmond True Font with a hamstring injury He hasn't played since week four and right now he is having his worst season ever by PF score like he is in the red, he is at the very bottom of the list for coroners in the League undoubtedly related to his injuries but. Probably, an indication of his declining. Abilities as we saw in the tail end of his time here in Atlanta frustrating for a player who I think was very, very good for the Falcons for many years he is out and obviously they're. Having to rely on their backups at. which could favor Julio Jones Calvin. Ridley. So Desmond Font not participating on Wednesday. The only player that was limited for the lions was wide receiver. Danny. Amendola with foot injury and guard Joe Doll was a full participant with Gordon injury. Now onto the Atlanta Falcons who come into the aim at one in five obviously the own five start got GM Thomas to Mitroff and head coach Dan Quinn fired or Morrison in his first game on the road with some extreme complications during the week got the first victory of the season with an impressive road win over the Vikings and obviously going into this week right now Marlon Davidson John Kaminsky are both on the COVID. Nineteen I are list no updates on their status. As of this point given the trends in the NFL I will be surprised if either guy participate to this week more than likely should they bounce back? It's going to be next week before you'll see either of these guys back in practice. So let's get those names out up front as for the rest of the defense only two players missed practice on Wednesday. The first name will be no surprise to Falcons fans unfortunately the defensive end tap McKinley with groin injury. Honestly I don't know what to tell you about this injury. At this point, he is consistently missing games. Now, they did try to get him back in a couple of games ago that lasted, I think all of two or three series at best right now, this injury is becoming highly concerning and it's frustrating for the player because talk is in his fourth year, the Falcons did not exercise that fifth year option and he is a free agent after this year this is really his year to prove to the Falcons to the rest of the NFL that he is a player that is worth. A big contract is worth bringing in to be a number one number to pass rusher. It even worse was his first couple of games. He looked the part he was beginning to really come alive as a pass rusher and this is incredibly frustrating. It's frustrating for Falcons fans but the player even more so. Still. Not. Practicing. Obviously. We'll. We'll see how he progresses during the week but I feel for him. Because at this point his health now is becoming a major stumbling block for his NFL career. Defensive Tackle Deodorant. SNOT was out for rest. So hopefully, he'll be back We need him in there obviously with Marlon Davidson John Kaminsky both being out on the covert list. The defensive line depth is getting a little bit thin. Limited participants on the defense great news here safety Jalen Hawkins finally was limited participant with a concussion. He obviously did not participate for the past couple of weeks and this is good news. So He is beginning to progress progress out of the concussion protocol. Obviously, you don't want to see these guys rush back from a concussion. But good news to see him finally back in practice even limited. Corner Kendall Sheffield is was limited on Wednesday with foot injury. He had a rough game this past week he's honestly. I think for all the flack that is as Oliver gets on this team from fans in a lot of it is deserved. Sheffield honestly is the weaker of the two. Especially, if you look at the overall pro football focus scores between these players right now is oliver is you know he's up there in around in the sixties low sixties which puts him in the mid range. The sixty first ranked out of one, hundred, twenty plus cornerbacks. Kendall Sheffield is in the low thirties. It's thirty, two point eight he is ranked one twentieth of one twenty-one. He is literally the second worst corner in the League. and that's PF APPs. So take that for what it's worth. It's one metric to measure by a BA- right now. Oliver. Gets all the attention from fans. Honestly Sheffield may be the one that struggling the most and obviously he was out. were limited participant on Wednesday. Defensive, end. Dante, Fowler, we talked about this last week and. He had a better game Sunday against the Vikings I think overall the entire defense clearly performed better than they had in recent weeks. Fowler has been limited with an ankle injury almost the entire year starting from the cowboys game week two and at this point. It's a big question on whether he is going to ever get off of this list. He's essentially been limited with his ankle injury for the past two, three four weeks and I. It's honestly I. It may be until after the bye week before we see him come off this list. It does make you wonder if his performance which has been lacklustre so far it makes you wonder if his performance is being held back by this nagging going injury. Let's hope he can clear this list gets a full participation and finally end up off the the injury list altogether otherwise, this investment that we made him to be one of the top tier pass rushers for this team is GonNa look. Like. You'll spend money. Onto the offense. Only, player that did not participate in on Wednesday was wide receiver Julio. Jones with hamstring obviously, he played on Sunday had fantastic game. I. Think even for fans who are used to seeing him He looked a little bit slower than normal I will say he he clearly. Julio Eighty percent is still better than ninety percent of the receivers in the League. Obviously, you will take him at eighty percent. So I I suspect the team is just trying to make sure that he stays healthy as possible to make the game against the Lions on Sunday. I wouldn't read too much into this is probably just them. Monitoring his health putting him on a pitch count I suspect he may not participate all week and he really doesn't need to. It's clear. He's got chemist with Ryan there's no issues there as they showed on. Sunday against the Vikings. MARTILL painting obviously, we'll. We'll pay attention to how this develops. But at this point, I would expect him to play especially given how he looked on Sunday. Limited on Wednesday wide receiver, Calvin Ridley and wide receiver Brandon Powell both were limited with an elbow injury. No News on that but the fact that they're limited they're they're probably gonNA. Ready to go on Sunday and finally wide receiver Russell Gauge with shoulder injury he was a full participant on Wednesday. That's the injury report from Wednesday October. Twenty first is always you can follow me on twitter at alcohol. UPDATES on this podcast, follow us at Soccer Hollick. Don't forget to check the hotline COM daily for a write up updates on the Atlanta Falcons. Back. Tomorrow for the Thursday Injury Update Grey Day.

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Local Hour: Best Condiment

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

00:00 sec | 2 years ago

Local Hour: Best Condiment

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Both ways stand up at your next of for the right reasons with the black talks to get twenty dollars off your purchase. Visit the black tux dot com. Enter code. Oh, dan. That's the black tux dot com code, Dan. For twenty dollars off your purchase the black talks premium rental, suits and tuxedos deliver we begin with laughing at Jonathan's Oslo. This that the Miami Heat. We're going to win their next for and that they were gonna swamp the Los Angeles Clippers because the Los Angeles Clippers were the most fraudulent team in the NBA. And what happens is an absolute boat race happen at the AAA. Dwayne Wade confused at how this jersey thing is going. I thought we sabotage that it goes against like you swap jersey with a random player, and sometimes maybe not even so random from the other team changes the game changes jerseys with Jason Williams, white chocolate, a king stirs. He I might add even though they actually played on the same team down here a little bit bizarre. The stations are weird. This team is absolutely a five hundred team when he says they're going gonna win the next four. He should say they're gonna win the next two because that is precisely half of four, and that's what this team is half. Good half bad five hundred and I'm sick of him. So like, do you think Wade has these all planned out? Like for the rest of the season was Jason Williams. Text him at the beginning of the season and weights like let me see where I can work in. And he's like, okay, we're playing the clippers. This was planned because why would Jason Williams randomly show up with an autograph Jason Williams jersey to Miami Heat game. So I don't know how this actually happens does. Wade reach out personally does he have a person that does this is at the organization, I'm imagining that it's all filled out. He has a person for every game the rest of the season. But if some big name comes in and is like, hey, man, I want to switch. He's like, oh, I got to fit in. And then it's like oh sorry. I'm just trying to think of like a random like kion dueling. Sorry. I was going to do with you in a couple of weeks but blank, just we'll just we'll just take this photo back in the locker room. And no one actually has to see we won't post it. Well, he just didn't want anybody for nearly clippers. He didn't want anybody in that team. Why doesn't he start trading jerseys? Like, okay, he didn't want anybody from the clippers but someone from Los Angeles. It doesn't have. Be that sport anymore because now we've shifted exactly what exactly this point. It could be anybody like Alexander Barkov. It just switched hers. He's with barky. Didn't he hit him in the head is at one time? So he should Switzer's. He's with barky Patrick Mahomes coming to a heat game, we switched jerseys. That's cool. Right. Yeah. All right. So let's talk about the exciting thing in the market because it's not the Miami Heat. I'm not watching these heat games. And I thought I would be all in on this one last dance. I'm not I'm not watching him at all I'm so bored by this team, so bored by this Rosser, I'm over this entire just treading water experiment. And I'm not even talking myself into. Hey, if we get you know, the Sixers in a seven-game sample, we can play them. I'm not doing that this year, folks. Mark my words, I'm not doing that a barely watch playoff games. I swear to God him. So over the squad. I feel like you watch playoff games. No, I'm over this squad. Dude, I'm over it. I haven't watched a game a game in such a long time hadn't had the interest in it. The only one that I was interested in watching was the Lakers game because it was the last answer with LeBron. And it was on a ten thirty. I was like, Nah, I prefer sleep. I prefer sleep them watching this historic moment. I watched last night until messing her came on. Then of course, I had to watch that. Oh, are we doing taker? Today, I think so we got it prepare. All right, citing. Letdown last night. Why Margaret show was revealed? Okay. Like, she. She falls me on Twitter way. Way. She follows you on Twitter and random she a fan of the show. I guess she was in faceoff. Yeah. It was one of the ones. No one. I didn't see that name. She was not guessed it all in massing. He usually she was what was her character. Oh, man. I've gone blank. It was the poodle. I think she was just as a poodle whose dresses, a poodle voice good. It was not great. It was one of the weaker ones. And yes, she known guests there. I thought it was my Ruta up up. See? Okay. You just a little sad choked up about it. I'm sad to see Margaret Shogo voshel. Why rude? But honestly, I'm just here to make sure that it's t pain like, that's really I'm kind of out on this Messinger show. Like, it was good the first couple of episodes. But now, I'm just only watching it because Bill he's gonna want to talk about it. And like, I kind of just ridiculous. It's it's such a ridiculous premise for show that I'm just I'm losing interest. And I just wanna make sure that the monsters pain, I think those entirely to make sure you're okay and talent shows and television like there's going to be a new one of FOX believe in. What why have you seen doing this? Okay. Rob Lowe is hosting a game show. That's called mental samurai. Did you see the promos for this? I don't really know what it is. Because the promos I was watching the biggest sports book they were all on mute. But the contestant is in a chair, and this chair is like swinging around like crazy. It looks like an arcade game and just augmented reality. And there's joy six on the chair and the person's just swinging wildly. And rob. Blows a weird choice to host a game show. It just looks really cool. I'm not sure why it's called mental. It's gotta be like a bunch of like mind things, but why are you in this orb? That's just like minority reporting all over the place to make yourself dizzy or to make it look cool on television, obviously. But you already had that with Roblo. He looks like a game game show does. But it's just I can't I okay. Forgive me. Roblo I better than hosting game shows. I didn't think that we read the hosting game show part of your career once he was getting roasted I feel like that was one. It's like he'll do anything at this point. No, the roast is an honor Bruce Willis, just got roasted. Although if my point probably would do anything, but I really you're an old soul. Yeah. Are you surprised that Rob Lowe is hosting game shows now? Are you surprised that Alec Baldwin is hosting game shows? No, I'm not surprised by Baldwin. He has had working relationship with NBC, and he's not really hosting like it's a one off like mental samurai looks like a show that can be picked up on and have multiple seasons when Alec Baldwin does. It's like the occasional special. Right. He does the right to game. He does that. Yeah. He doesn't match game. And it's like the occasional special. It's not an entire season arc right? Right. Yeah. I've heard Alec Baldwin interviewed it, and I think he does all those game shows just because he's really into his family right now. He just had a bunch of kids, and he wants to like be able to be when you do movies. You have to go places and with when you have a show like that you can just be in LA. Yeah. You know that he's going going to be in this live version of few good men who's playing the Jack Nicholson role. So NBC has done the same with like Peter Pan where they do the live musicals oxes doing it with rent. Yeah. I think was Greece one. I think Greece was one back. Yeah. And there was a Christmas story on FOX. So they're not going to do a musical. They're going gonna do Aaron Sorkin version of a few good men the play version, which actually south beach sessions out now J K Simmons has an interesting story about Aaron Sorkin play. I in working on that. But Alec Baldwin's going to be playing the Jack Nicholson you can't handle the truth roll. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know what the rest of the cast is. But that's going to be because it's live and you're watching a live play with presumably starpower because Alec Baldwin last. I checked was the only one that was announced. But that's going to be really cool. I'm in on that. I love a few good men. You like if you're really into the whole odd musical thing. Like, I've heard of all these that you just mentioned I don't think I've ever watched one second of any of them. Really? I think they must rate. Well because other networks keep doing them. They're huge must rate. Well, I saw the one with John legend that was. Too bad. I didn't see that one. Yeah. It was a. Was a networks. Also, do this number one. You can sell the hell out of it. It is a huge moneymaker as a presenting sponsor. It's great. But it's a ward bait those shows are very hard to do. It's why occasionally we'll do one of those mega casts because it's an easy non nomination. And I'm just trying to get that. Emmy kid. Well, you get nominated for twentieth. Wolf in it. I don't think. So right. No. You can't. No. That can't be a Tony Tony has to be on a live sage in front of an audience, even though those television programs are that was often audience. I know, but Tony I dunno. It's the theater that's not the theater is James r is pretty good. I'm not digging this. I mean, hell like you just decide I can score fifty points every game. Like, I I'm Kobe went on one of those runs to where he just chucking it up. But I'm with Dan's teammates, hate him. Right. James harden? Yeah. Now now, I think so I mean, I just feel like that can't be fun. It's not fun. It's off on watching it. I'm down. I'm down on basketball this year, the only person that that will stop if I'm flipping through the channels, and there's a game on the only person that I'll watch well Lillard my favorite player in the NBA, but he's onto late. So I can never watch him. But Greek freak I like that sort of throwback style. And it's with someone. That's obviously, it's his nickname. He's a freak. But I like. That he's doing it sort of the old school way drive into the hoop, man style. I don't like this Chuck and up from three nonsense. It wears on me. I saw basketball played at the highest level with that Spurs NBA finals win over the Miami Heat. And then the the warriors took that blueprint, and it was gorgeous. And now, I am so bored by it, you go Lillard favourite, I go Westbrook. As far as like, non heat guy. I wanna watch down with that ROY his your favorite. At the Gobert. Lebron even though he's internet. That's true. I can't give them that. It was fun for a couple of years. We mentioned poodles before and this and I saw this earlier walking and this is random sorry before we get to like the canes and all that portal, they mentioned poodles because Margaret show was the poodle in the mass singer. And she has since been eliminated people walking your dogs in public put him on a leash these people that they feel real confident in their their their training like how well trained their dog. Is you've read about experience because any time I've seen that. And I see it often. There's a lot of people that do that the dog's always good. I know. But I always like dogs are animals that are not like, they're smart. But they're not that smart, or they're very smart or anything can draw their attention. Like, I I just don't like, and especially other dogs could be around. And then like your dog had ended up getting just put your dog on a leash. You're not impressing anyone. All right. You get your dog's really trained. It's you mentioned that because I went to the gym two days ago. And there was this massive massive like Chow Chow Jim at the gym with. The dude not on a leash just sitting next to every rack and he went all around the gym. And this dog was massive Lieven hair everywhere. That's the weirdest thing I've ever seen bringing your I guess he wants a conversation starter. Like, what is it didn't have like the cool vest saying support dog don't pet me which also always hurts me because I always want to pet the dog. So I don't know if he was inviting a yeah, you can compete the dog. This was a huge dog. I've never seen. I've seen like a great Dane before. This was the second biggest dog I've ever seen and it was just at the gym chill. I thought it was like some dude wearing like a mink because it was cold outside that was just lying on the floor. I get closer to the machine and it's a dog. Does this happen normally dogs to gyms? I've never seen. No. I'd actually go to the gym home. I'd seen at one time before, but it was like a sleeker dog that looked like a service dog was wearing that cool bad ass vests that those. Service dogs. Do I wish I had one of those vest as music human? I wish they make service vest for humans. The service human I would rock the hell out of a service vest anyways. I seen one before and it was cute. And it was somebody that you come. It was a regular at the gym that I would see all the time. And it seemed to be a one off. I'd never seen this dude before I don't like them. I don't like this very inconsiderate. The dog was leading a trail of hair. The things you see in KENDALL. I don't need. If you live in Kendal. You know, exactly what Jim I'm talking about. If you have been in KENDALL, if you had just merely driven by the Bahama breeze. You know what I'm talking about? How is this possible things? Like, these one Glen, I moved the Broward you shouldn't be allowed to bring a dog at the gym. If he's not wearing the bad s service dog best. It's a rule. However, this dog was so large and hairy. He would have to wear a human vest. There's no service dog best made big enough. It would have to be able to profess made for a human. This dog was incredibly large. You would have to step over the dog, by the way could boy very good for best. Boy, you could step over them because you had to he went to move. He would move, but the owner bad owner terrible owner does a badge. Terrible. Don't complain. Quito love talks owner bad terrible owner dog was so big used probably walking out there. Right. That sounds like a joke. Even I'm happy. I'm happy you took the hack. I'm happy. It took the hack on. He was on a training. And honestly, you go in the dot dot dot, right? Made me smile a little bit because you knew your phone or ability. But I have to do this to you. You now. Now. I would now have the visual of a dog working out though. And that's funny to me like dogs squatting like at the squat rack like a big dog, especially when John show, right? Geico presents unhelpful home improvement how twos a slippery bathroom floor can result in expensive hospital bills. So today, I'll show you how to cook a serious fall by filling your bathroom with thousands of plastic balls. Just nail a piece of plywood across the doorway and dump in two thousand multicolored plastic balls, you could try to protect yourself with a bathroom full of plastic balls or you could get liability coverage through the Geico insurance agency. Visit Geico dot com and see how a forcible renter's insurance can be done Libertad. Hey, gravy vampire? I'll stop laughing up. So. Gravy vampires? Good, right. Stugatz. I don't even know what it means. Exactly. Like, what am I doing my just showing up while you're eating gravy? And I wait for you to consume it, and then I attacked her neck. So I could get the gravy as it goes down. They suck the gravy out of people. Okay. But I wait. I just hang out at like golden corral waiting for people to put extra gravy like out of this extraordinarily niche, vampire work. He sees the show with the stugatz on the ticket. So we were talking during the break about Jason Williamson more because when when we were growing up Jason Williams was the coolest talking about why chocolate not the murderer. Anyways, that Jayson Williams? I wouldn't want to emulate the other Jason Williams. So Jason's not the one that was the greatest college basketball player ever and got no motorcycle. Yeah. You got something in your throat UK. But what's the matter? You were just inhaling meet six is that what you know? Why was sprinting Billy I have sand in my beard, my knees, bloody. And I'm a real mess. I haven't been able to get all the sand out because we ran the sprints. I injured myself, and I fell down you sound like you're about to die. So go ahead. Take five, okay? Follow lebatardshow on Instagram. If you wanna see why Dan sounds like he's about to die. So I would Jason Williams. And I and the funny thing I got zero handles on the basketball court, but he had the cool commercials. He was an electrical wire that just landed on the floor when he broke into the NBA with the Sacramento Kings highlight reels white kid doing an one stuff the by the fake behind. The back pass is going to the layup. The bounce off the back of the elbow pass wide open shooter the fake between the legs man, he was the coolest, and I would try and practice and fail and fail because I had small hands at the time. But I would me late him. But it got me thinking who on the courts or on the baseball diamond. Would you guys emulate because when I was a little kid in little league to I would do the Gary Sheffield like bat speed thing. Just because he was my favorite baseball player at the time. Even though I didn't have to be to do that. Yeah. I did the Gary Sheffield Jeff Bagwell who's my favorite player like getting down squat and low you would squat that low. Obviously not in games. But like when I was emulate like that's not how I hit like in baseball. But like we don't have your own since you didn't. Oh, we never played the game with your friends. It's like guests dancing. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's what I mean. I could probably do that with nineties baseball sciences. Like, we can we can go on his batting stance guy. Still thing. Oh, you didn't think? So he was a YouTube sensation. Yeah. I think I followed him on my space is he still thing. I don't know. He would do it with like a broomstick, right? Seven eight six four five six four eight three seven. If you want to call in and say who you imitated who did you invitation Billy? To good question. I think everybody down here like when they were playing around the Gary Sheffield, not necessarily like in competition. But just because it was so different. And then there was like Craig counsel post Marlins where he did that like weird thing we'd have is battling way over his head. And he had like that weird like tic where ski pushing it up even higher do that yet. It's straight out backyard. We played wiffle ball and it never ended. Well for me. I I had enough time catching up to the baseball with a normal swing. I don't know how these people were timing it with all these weird intricacies. That would help them time. It just wasn't a good athlete. Barry, Barry Bonds Sheffield did that because his hands were so fast. That's the reason that he had that. Stan. Yeah. Yeah. No. He had to do it. Low down down. His incredible bats beat. It's the stuff of legend, Gary Sheffield. Did you guys love Gary chef, but I want to be clear on this. Because they've got they've got their little guys like Benito, Santiago, Gary Sheffield's, the best Marlon ever is. He not dare, you know, that's not true. Best hitter Miguel Cabrera. The best hitter. The Marlins have ever. No, no, no. But in terms because he was here long who's here longer. Gary Sheffield Cabrera probably Sheffield, Gary Sheffield's, my favorite Marlin. I don't Mike. I think you had different sensibilities growing up because I think it's more. These guys were arrested distraught to Benito, Santiago. I think you actually people hated Sheffield. I mean Stanton on an MVP for the Moreland. So saying yeah sentence, probably I tell them was wanna say young one year want to definitely one of the more talent. And a lot of people didn't like Hanley. But as far as talent I'd say Miguel Cabrera Hanley or that's why I want plant. Hanley playing shorts. Sheffield is a hundred times the player. Hanley was yes hundred Timea player Sheffield should be in the hall of fame is not just because of that bond stuff. Yeah. But Hanley did win that batting title Jeffrey Loria rewarded them appropriately chore, it I would say I it's Gary Sheffield for me is my number one number two is oddly or he can. I still have a cannot can Cantu t shirt baseball reference doesn't even have Sheffield and all time top twelve players for the Marlins. That's not a Cantu. Not at the top. All you want. Another top twelve. I'll give them to you, Dan. And now, you're asking all right. John Carlos Stanton. Okay. Hanley ramirez. This one you're not gonna like Josh Johnson. Louise, castio Dontrelle Willis yelich Cabrera cliff Floyd Uggla, Kevin Brown. No. In terms of it can't be in terms of excellence. Sheffield's the best guy they've ever had. I don't think baseball reference does things in terms of popularity yelich. As more production than Gary Sheffield. I think this is this is based on war. So y'all has an eighteen point six war Stanton's at thirty five point two war. This is done with analytics right here. Gary Sheffield greatest Moreland baseball. I think I'm done with them to. Yes, he was he was so feared he was the best player on they walked them that entire World Series year. He was terrible. And they walked him every time in the World Series and the playoffs because everybody was terrified of him. You remember that catch that he made in Cleveland huge moment in that playoff series as. One of the top five catches and more Orleans history. You would agree top-five catch? Now. Chuck car has probably all tell five catches was incredible nineteen Ninety-three moorlands recap tape, and there was a whole segment based on cars catches and it had like the best nineties music and grabs. Bring in Stanford in Gundy, he's right now eating some sort of egged sandwich. Ask him his opinion here. He's eating an egg sandwich on camera. Just ask him as opinion. 'cause he's going to have opinions on what we're talking about. Your mic is hot. Go ahead, and give us your opinion. Gary Gary Sheffield Marlins we've been talking about like the greatest Marlin ever, go ahead. Hold on. Listen to Billy's list of Marlins who are better than Gary Sheffield. Go ahead and do it. Okay. This is baseball. References lists to be clear, and it's based on war. So Gary Sheffield not in the top twelve for Marlins franchise history. Number one Stanton. Then Hanley Ramirez then Josh Johnson weeks. Castio Dontrelle Willis Christian yelich Miguel Cabrera cliff Floyd, Dan Uggla, Kevin Brown. Mike Lowell Marcelo Cabrera that low. There that long he didn't play there that long. That's that's the problem. I mean, he started there, but he didn't play there long enough. So we're talking about only what they did with the Marl that I didn't think that's what we were talking about. I was just simply asking who radio talented Marlin ever. And it's gotta be Cabrera. It's gotta be Cabrera total package, but I think Sheffield second. Yeah. Sheffield or Stanton. I would say if we're looking overall at their at their entire careers for sure I mean, Sheffield's got a second or third. I know what gave I wanna play. I wanna go around the diamond and build the dream more Orleans lineups subjective. Of course, like just your favorite Marlins. Not what you think is the best lay them out. What you think is the best because we could all put even though ugly versus Louis Casio who's the best. What are you doing subjective? Because my favorite catcher John Baker deal with it mines, Bob Natal's. On NATO, and it's either Pudeur Benita guess who centerfield Hudson, Wisconsin. I don't like the way Mike playing. This aren't I. Felt so bad for Mexico because it was a great moment for him. But I was really sad for him. So like the last game in pro player stadium. They did like they welcome back like all the Marlins, and they did like this reunion, and then they named like based on fan voting like the all time Marlin team ever, and it was based on fan voting, and they voted Amezaga like best favourite utility player. Whatever at when they gave him like his trophy, or whatever it is. They were handing out he was like crying. And he was so thankful to the fans. And I was like he was he was the best Marlins utility player every played every. Now that was Mike Mordecai. I saw him. A good one. Remember that bomb that might be Mordecai hit that that today's one he destroyed the comes the whole Bordman thing. Medic Mike Mordecai came against that giant Kyle Farnsworth throwing a hundred seventy miles hit it off the Ivy league. And Chicago Benca losers are saying we just lost a Mike mortar, cotton's Bartman, Ivy league Brad banks. Didn't right Brian, right? Yeah. You guys are completely ignoring Lenny Harris. Remember, Lenny Harris, right? I do. And like he's he's good. I like Leno. He's the best stand. He's not. He's the best. He said. He said. Over the good. But we talk to your best. Are we talking to the greatest of all times, stop it stands here and argue with sitting it out get in here and argue back. In these deals in. It's not like they're tradition is that long or that. Great. So this isn't that hard. Okay. It's really it's really not that hard. You got Pudge behind the plate. You've got. With them. Great. Then you got Derek Lee at first base. Take that whole I'm gonna I'm biased, but I'm going to take that whole. Two thousand and three and then they'll take the whole infield. Okay. All Gonzales Cass, THEO. Breed. You gotta go rent. No Hanno Hanley's the shortstop. Wow. What you're right. You gotta go with Hanley shortstop. That's a good call and Mike. I have love. Oh, my God Alice a magician out there. It was a crime that he never wanna go glove for this. It was just Marlins bias because the league I'm telling you hates the mind the tiny Brown guy who played second base. I'm forgetting the name. He did it for like a year and a half tiny small medium Bonifazio bears. Center fuel v o was a kill VO kill veal trade it to the pod. You remember what you know about kill? You said, you know, anything about Kalia Veras. But you don't know. Why are we talking about guys like this? If we're talking about the greatest Marlins because he's up there. Clearly Lewis cats like career leaders are you anymore? Simple Lenny haired. Oh, right. And you remember we had the hitting streak going. Thirty five games over ugly, ugly. No, you're right. I love Dan. I'm. At the home run record for a while for this team. Now, where's the most prolific home run hitter? Stan I got a great Louis. Casteel story for you. 'cause he'd like get on team flights and forget to bring his clothes, and he the the cultural transfer was so difficult that he wants set off a fire alarm and a hotel because he thought it was a shampoo dispenser and one time during that hitting streak a lot of people were were talking to him and asking him questions, and he didn't know anything about baseball history. Nothing at all. So there in Saint Louis, right? And they're they're telling him about Lou Brock, and he's got no knowledge whatsoever of Lou, Brock or anything. But later he was introduced to somebody. And as he shaking that person's hand, they say to him, you know, this is and he says Lou Brock. It was STAN Musial. Bets. People have confused them in the past best closer Marlins history. Let's go. Let's fight. Because I know a lot of people are going to go out. And then a lot of people are gonna go Rodman. Armando Benitez had a helluva season. Right. I had forty six I think one year Todd Jones. Oh, forget about loop. Yeah. That's a blue blue pertinent that names the name, slipping my mind, but who's our guy that got us in the World Series. And he's in jail. We traded Adrian Gonzales or being can you say that sentence against and who's the guy? Who'd say the whole Senate guy who helped us get the World Series. And he's in jail and goes way. Somehow less embarrassing than Julio. Didn't he tried to set fire like a migrant worker, they don't feel comfortable laughing about it? It was pretty serious donlevatar rapid on here. Dan. I'm gonna take you for ride. Dot yourself. In is what I meant not strap it on one hour. I meant yourself in here dance to God's listen support choice of words for phrasing. But I meant strap in because there are several big words coming up in this last story. Go strap scrap anything they seize show with the stugatz on the ticket. It's the same Van Gundy Thursday, it's also the shipping container. And what do we do with you on a Thursday? Chris, Cody, we talked to you. I thought that was Tuesday shipping container. We thrust with you. It really depends. Yeah. It is more of a talking, but we have same Van Gundy with and he's been kind enough to sit in with us here during the local hour now before the holidays in and I went back and forth. And I was playing heat Homer. And I was touting Justice winslow's development, and then he didn't play so well afterwards, but then Gordon drug it's got hurt and he got moved into a starting point guard. And it seems as though Justice Winslow has taken the next step in this new position. Stan have you pivoted seeing the new Justice Winslow? Well, I certainly been an improvement. There's no question about that. And I think that you know, they they've done a good job finding a role for him that seems to fit him. Mm better. He's playing with great confidence. You know, we can get them into offense and stuff. He's not your typical shot creator, nor is he a great scorer, but he sort of Jack of all trades in very tough guy, and a great competitor. And he certainly helped him here when they've had so many injuries. He's also become a fairly respectable three point shooter. Which was the thing is game that he had to work on the most. And then he started playing a little bit and you saw improvements year-over-year. But when I'm most impressed by and when I actually thought he had the highest ceiling four because he actually gets to the hoop with relative ease. He's big and strong as quick he's agile, but the touch around the rim was always such a concern with him. And it seems even that is improved San. It's improved a little. But if you look at the numbers, he still, you know, very low relative to the rest of the league in his ability to finish. So that's a problem. His three point shooting has gotten better. You know, he look he's at that point. Where a lot of guys get to win they improve a little bit as three point shooters. Is you know, I it's relatively easy for him. Because he's not a good enough shooter that people actually have respect for shots. Nobody closes out. He can shoot every three just like you shoots him before the game in warmups stepping into them. So if he continues to shoot, the three better and shoot more of them. It'll be interesting what will happen when people actually have some respect for shooting and close out on him a little bit knowing what you know, and we're joined by saving money Thursday professional reset everybody, knowing what you know about heat culture, you were with Pat Riley is an. For many years, and you know, Eric, so well, and what this organization's all about. How do you think bind closed doors? The Miami Heat brass is talking about the waiters right now. Yeah. Th that, I don't really know. Look they've done a great job with guys like that who other people really don't believe in. And they've brought them in and they've gotten them in shape and had them lose weight. And then they find a role for them and everything else. So so they've done pretty well with guys like that. And when waiters I cane he was great. And now, this is the tough part. I think a lot of teams go through it is he's coming off an injury. He wants more of a role. They're not ready to give him that. Or don't think he's ready at this point. And you're going to have some conflict at look the one thing with the heat. Whether it was when they went through some problems with with Whiteside, or whatever is they don't make rash decisions or real quick decisions. They'll let it play out in. We'll see where Dion waiters is, you know, later on in the year if he gets back to where he was. Two years ago. They've got a guy that can really help them. I mean key really get too mad at a rational confidence guy for being a rational and confident about his ability to bounce back from that type of injury. However, he was starting to get out of shape after the initial injury, and he tried to play through it. I don't know if there's a correlation there he hasn't really worked himself back into that pre injury shape. He's not even really close right now. There has to be you have to sort of give a little to earn a little trust back. Right. Especially with this franchise. Yeah. Absolutely. Right. And I think the one thing that the Miami Heat have probably done better than anybody else in the NBA is the IMF asus on conditioning. It's huge to them that they've helped a lot of players improved a lot of players with their attention to to their conditioning to their fitness and initially. That's why Dion waiters made a big jump. When he came. To miami. And he is not there right now really to no fault of his either when you have injuries. It's tough. You're limited in what you can do and everything else, but the heat aren't gonna totally buy into Dion waiters until he's back at a lot closer to one hundred percent conditioning. I mean, that's just that's just the way they are. And I think it's been a great thing for them. I promise we'll get back to the phone shortly with anybody. He he's gonna use basketball expert. This is the local hour. Let's talk about the local team for just a little while longer. Gordon Dragages coming back from injury. We add Jonathan's ads low on the show earlier in the week. And he suspects Gorn Dragoj, especially initially, we'll work his way off the bench, and he might just end up being bench player because you can't stunt the growth of Justice Winslow at this point. Because now Justice Winslow is arguably become your best asset. Do you agree with that approach? Now, I have I have problems thinking that that's the way the the heat are going to go long term. Look Justice winslow's done a good job. They found a role for him. He's not close to gore and drag it as a point guard, not close Gorringe, Rog it, she's outstanding. This is a heat team that wants to win wants to be in the playoffs. I think they're going to eventually at least once he's truly healthy get Gordon drug. It's back into the into the starting lineup. I'd be surprised if the heat wanted to go another direction. I mean, they've done it. They've done it once they they tanked wants to to try to you know, right before LeBron came so so they've done it. I think if they want to go that way, they would look to deal drug. But if he's there I can't see and drug. It's being a backup to Justice. Starting Justice Winslow is a commitment to taking as opposed to trying to develop someone that's. On it's become an asset. No, no. I don't think starting Justice Winslow at this point has been tanking that that's been they're they're trying to find their best option. Understood. In place of drag it once drag his back healthy, you're saying your best chance to win is sorting Goran Dragic, and they should put winning ahead of maybe developing someone who could actually become an asset that can maybe be a piece in netting USR. I look. First of all, I think you're really overplaying Justice wins. These played. Well, but if you think Justice Winslow is going to be like a key piece in getting you a star. I mean, I think you're you're way off base. He would be salary to throw into a deal. Maybe but he's not bringing you back star. We're not we're not talking about a rookie a guy coming out of college. I mean, you know, look, he's a decent player. There's a lot of people out there that would have an interest in Justice wins. I hate Justice Winslow. Why did you stay Justice? When don't at just it's just you guys you guys love him so much. I mean, you're going to trade Justice Winslow for who who's the star? Russell is Justice. Yeah. Oklahoma city's going to take Justice Winslow as the key guy. Just and to Tyler Johnson for Anthony, David. Yeah. Yeah. That I'm sure New Orleans would be very very interested. Probably gonna have to. To make a salary contracts out. I love I love the local hour because you know, and then it's not just in Miami. It's anywhere because especially the trade ideas that come up like, yeah, we're going to trade Justice Winslow in Tyler Johnson for what? You were right around the time you were coaching. I was trading Wayne Simeon for like all star caliber players. Yes. And then what guys will do like is they'll tell you, look, I did it on the trade tracker, and it works, and I'm like, wait a minute just because the money works the talent doesn't want. I don't know if I've got the timing right or not. But I'm pretty sure at one point on local radio. Here we traded some Walker for Michael Jordan. Do you think so out Samaki when I was in my in market? I did not think he was as good as Michael Jordan. Shame. That's bull. Shave bull take when I say, Wayne swimming. Do you think salmonella because I do? No, Wayne Simeon. Look, he he just really didn't wanna play NBA basketball. Good guy character decent player. He just really wasn't that interested in the NBA. And I happened to seem five six years ago at Kansas was really happy with what he's doing. I mean it. It's rare everybody thinks that the NBA is this dream thing. But but Wayne Simeon just really didn't wanna play NBA basket and named some others because Johnny was like that name some others that you coach that didn't really wanna be. They didn't love it. Yeah. You know, what there's actually a lot of them. We had a guy in Miami. That we picked in the second round. When I was there, Kim Johnson out of Ohio State was the all time at least at that point was the all time leading shot blocker in NCAA history. Any really did have great timing and athlete's ability and everything else and. And you know, with the heat like with a lot of teams, if you're a young guy, you come in early to work out, and he would be he would be laid all the time. I remember Bob mcadoo saying to him one day. Hey, Kindy, you hate money. And and Kim say what are you talking about? He so well with your ability if you would just worked and do everything you'll make millions of dollars in this league for a long time. But you you won't even show up on time and kin wanted to be a graphic artist. You know, that's what he wanted to be the NBA. He was there because he had the ability. I I think you see it more in big guys to be honest. A lot of them, you know, we're sort of pushed into the game because of their size and not because they had any great love of the game and play it for the money and everything else, but their hearts, not really in it. And who's the player that you coached who used to be late the most that I liked to them out so late late to the facility leased? I know who knows who is late the most who was late the most. Oh, well, Kim Johnson was was was one was the one in Miami that I. We asked the question staying give us another name. We want some of the juicy stuff from you who was late most often other than this Ken Johnson, the graphic designer that we all feel you just made up. I didn't make. I don't remember can John that's sort of the point is these are the guys you wouldn't remember he was a second round pick who didn't want to put in the work. We didn't really have anybody else who is late very much when I was in Miami that I remember I mean Alonzo was probably the second most in being late, but it would be like a minute here or there. It's not like he was a guy walking into building an hour after practice started. All right enough of stand. What's your go to Chinese food takeout? Order. Sweet and sour chicken whole little fried rice. You gotta have you gotta have the fried rice. There's no question about that role combo or spring roll egg roll egg roll guy, not an Ed grow guy. No chicken or pork on the fried rice. Chicken. I gotta go pork fried rice there disagree. Is that is that the go-to takeout like if you're ordering takeout? What are the top three places you're going? Well, I mean, I'm doing Mexican more than than anything. Now. The thing is I I don't have anybody at least where I am. Well, I can get it delivered. So have to order that and go pick it up. But but I'm gonna do that. I've got an Italian place. I liked the same way. And then it all we've done a couple of times lately as Indian food which I didn't hadn't really eaten a lot. And and I love it. That's condiment going because you mentioned Indian food and the curry sauce at a chicken kitchen should is worth consideration, garlic, salon show, alcoholics Alonso's, I actually my go-to. What is your favorite condiment? My favorite condiment. Yes sauce. Yeah. I know what I know what a condiment is. I mean, I'm not I'm not that bad. But look, I don't really have a pheno. It's it's interesting. I've never thought about a favorite condiment. You don't look like a ranch guy. I like ranch you have put a couple of things on the poll here. I a couple of things at lebatardshow Instagram and Twitter, chicken fried rice or pork fried rice. And are you disturbed by the idea or the visual of Indian food moving through STAN Van Gundy? Great. What's your favorite condiment? Sauce, billy. What's your favorite condiment? Ketchup or mustard probably now catch up ketchup for almost anything sour cream, a condiment. Would it on the poll or guys you gotta put that on the pole for? Yeah. It is a of. On the fat guy. Absolutely. Yeah. I mean, it goes it goes on baked potato. I guess it should be well known. I love Sarah taco. Which one's better. They can bits aren't a condiment. No, no, you know, salsas like the most popular condiment, and we're disrespecting. That's not a. That's not a condom. It's a salsa. I'm just telling you it's replace catch up as the most popular in the country. Do you agree with sue? God's sugata. Take earlier this week that America makes better Mexican food than Mexico. Well, I haven't been in Mexico. So I can't really never been in Mexico. No, I have not. You're not missing anything. I like Passover tacos, you cut up pineapple I like tongue tongue Passover tacos. That's stand pass for Mexican. Because I feel like he was one of the drug lords could he could do in the mustache thing. I can tell you for sure. I don't know if for Mexican but for Hispanic because when we used to practice in coconut grove at LaSalle high school in Miami going out of there. I mean, I'm going to say once every two weeks somebody would start asking me for directions or whatever in Spanish. That I don't speak Spanish, and they would get like very upset like I was lying to him or something. Like, I didn't want to give them directions. Like looking at me. Like, of course, you speak Spanish, so yeah, I could definitely pass for Hispanic even in Miami wacky. Sing you've ever put on popcorn because I'll start the bidding at hot sauce saying. I put saying no, no, no, no, no, listen to me. I'm very like I love popcorn my favorite snack by far. You don't mess that up by putting anything on it except salt. No butter. None of this other Bs. Butter. No, no. And do not give me these cheese toppings. All of these are. That's it. That's it garlic salt, garlic, garlic salt, truffle salt, garlic salt, like just so what type of popcorn though lost? You kettle corn guac? Headcorn? It's too sweet. I don't. You get the sweet and the software Vado oh fat. And I love the movie. I love the movie you like this discussion upsets me, it does like popcorn is not meant to be messed up the way, you you. You've been in Chicago several times you mean to tell me you never strolled into Garretson end the world famous cheddar popcorn. I just had. Why would you put cheese on? Why wouldn't you on everything? Always makes everything better straight. You don't mess up your popcorn. No. You are closed minded. You're closed minded. I might be close minded. But this is like you have to decide in life where you're going to dig in and take a stand. And this is where I progressive. He is so boring. Listen to him listen to him. He's just so can't if so risk averse that he can't add a little extra anything to popcorn has to eat it like the originators made it. Yes. And listen. I mean, I know I've tried the other stuff. It's just basically all of that stuff is just ruining popcorn best chain restaurant bread. Cheesecake factory Red Lobster. I'm going Red Lobster. She's factories. Not good macaroni grill. I'm not talking about good long lobster yet. The are you kidding me? Dan, be careful. My God hair about you San apples. You are on the wrong side of history. Right. I would back off. I don't know chain restaurant. I I like the cheesecake factory, but I'd probably go like, I I don't really have any of them that I love, but I'd probably go like Chili's pumpernickel Hilly's chilies have doesn't have bred Dave chips in salsa. Mike. Remember the bread roadhouse. Oh, okay. Nothing tops of biscuits. Stan have against Red Lobster. I mean, like I love seafood, but I'm wondering like you've never had a simple stuff. You'll never have the triple fees. Scampi? You don't wondering if that seafood. Yeah. That's sorta you got it. For the seafood you go there for the cheddar biscuits, you go there. And then you you have the seafood Athol listened to old worldly culinary foodie. Stan Van Gundy, who's never been to Mexico like each he likes his popcorn and his salt. Do not listen to him on matters of food tastes. I wanna do. Every segment today about food with standing on a second to the Wayne Simeon take that same Van Gundy doesn't butter. His popcorn is the largest upset in the history of this show.

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Justin Sheffield, U.S. Navy SEAL, Afghanistan, Iraq, Somalia

Veterans Chronicles

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Justin Sheffield, U.S. Navy SEAL, Afghanistan, Iraq, Somalia

"Welcome to veterans chronicles I'm Greg Corrobos our guest. This week is US Navy veteran Justin Sheffield joined the navy in two thousand and soon pass the grueling tests to become a US navy seal for the next fourteen years he served our nation in Iraq Afghanistan and several other locations around the world is now the president and CEO of the All Eagles Oscar Foundation helping veterans dealing with. Post traumatic stress and traumatic brain injury is also the author of the new book mob six, a seal team, six operators battles in the fight for good over evil and Justin. Thanks very much for being with US Jagger story with us today. We appreciate it. Thank you so much for have. Ma'am honored. Well, let's begin with the beginning of your story where were you born and raised? San Angelo Texas I'll be surprised if you've heard of it it's one of those places there's no interstate anywhere really around it. So you got to be going there to to go to it but it was a great place to grow up man still got my parents are still out there. A West Texas you know. Excellence is there a history of military service in your family? Unites Great Question I was actually just talking to somebody that brought to my attention how? The military is a family business. So to speak and I was thinking about that, there's quite a bit of military in my family and I think I would have gone and anyway. But I mean grandparents virtually every war we've been in lots of cousins. I have a huge family. My mom had seven brothers and sisters so. A lot of cousins than I think. Almost. All of them went in in some capacity pilots and rescue swimmers in all kinds of stuff Long. Answer shorter I've got a lot of family in the military to my brother. When did you first get interested in serving in the military and specifically as seal A young kid I didn't really know what I wanted to do but I love the idea of the military silicon a very young age my brother He. Remember, him always wanted to be a fighter pilot, and so we always were looking at airplanes and trying to look the insides of cockpits. You know I could say that it's because of top gun but I don't I don't even know if that was was out when he started to want to be a fighter pilot but anyway you know. So along growing up man, we just we love the military. I. Didn't really know it was my my parents were not in it but their parents were. And side knew a lot about it. I feel like stories and whatnot, and then, and then I had family like I said, that was in the military. But nothing like Navy Seals I didn't learn about until I was about a young teenager. My Dad gave me a book and he actually bought a book that I ended up taking in reading and just loved it and it was about these guys in Vietnam. You know how the unity became navy seals and they're under Kennedy I believe it was. Made that happen and then and then. A little bit later Nineteen eighty-one still team six came about all of it was extremely interesting to me learn about how difficult it was just to make it. I didn't really know it probably would have picked up a book about Rangers or something like that. I could've gone that way honestly but it was seals and I was just I was in love with the idea of how hard it was for some reason. and maybe a personal challenge or something but. but I came in to be Navy. Seal nine eleven hadn't happened yet. So I was like man I just this is what I WANNA do. It Tried College I. As, I, say in the book I got trouble. And made some really stupid choices but I got a second chance and man I took it. I wouldn't change that. Of course I look back at change a lot of things about my life. You know I've made some mistakes and whatnot but the decision to go in Mana definitely wouldn't change it I'd encourage regardless of what people feel about the wars man we need. We need people like the ones that are in our military right now, need people that continue to volunteer go do that and and it was a blast. How soon did you go to buds training? Once you joined the navy fortunately when I was going in there in two thousand, I had signed up in ninety nine and. There was a thing called the seal challenge program. That's what it was. So you could go in with a contract saying that you at least get a shot to go to buds during boot Camp I got to try out and I, made it. I made the trial equality physically to get into buds class and then I went to. A school which not to confuse it anymore. It's just basically you're learning a job to do on a ship. For when you go to fleet and you can pick from a myriad of schools I was A. Specialist, which is up on the bridge weighing in their navigating and I was given a bunch of choices. I. I wanted to be a medic. A hospital corpsman is what it's called the navy but I had a i. came in on a marijuana drug waiver that for whatever reason they're like that is not even you can't apply for that one. I got a school and it was at dam neck which is the naval base that. On. The northern side of it is where silting sixes, they own that whole side. So it's like I'm not even at buds yet. I'm just a little butthead basically and I'm looking down the beach and I could see deb group down there man and I was just like I. Someday I'm GonNa be there you know and the weight. which is probably pretty arrogant. When I sit here by now that was like already thinking seal team six I wasn't even through the first day of buds yet but that's kind of how I was thinking you know ultimately to me a mind and I want to be a seal team six sniper someday. That's that's where I gotta get that I went to buds right after a school and yeah man, the rest is Kinda history I didn't I didn't quit. So let's talk about buds and and the mentality and everything else How did the reality of buds compared to what you were prepared for at least you thought you were prepared for going in. You know it started out I. was I think like most of the guys air just excitement you're like, wow, we're really here man this is what we've been hearing about and remember the first time. It got sit to the Surf Zone to get wet and sandy man were out there and we were all laughing and we're having a blast and then and then you're out there for a minute like of is this GonNa end in then you start shivering in the cold sets in. and. You might get out for a minute and you're back in it. And then. You know in the pain starts in physical exertion starts in doesn't really stop you know so. I had a blast in the sense like internally that I was getting to go through something that I just I never thought I would get the chance to do and but extremely difficult like they they. They definitely want you to quit. They make it very easy to quit nobody's GonNa be all stay in their Camman. You got it. You got it inside you reach down and find it. There's none of that. It's the bills right there guys. We got a hot meal for you go get some sleep. we'll take care of everything if you guys want to walk out of the water right now no big deal or you WanNa put the log down and Leaguer team? No big deal I know it hurts your neck it's that kind of stuff. So what was the difference? What's the difference between those who? Endure and get out and those who decided to tap out. It's a lot There's guys that that a lot of guys get hurt in buds. I. Don't know what? I. Would have done if I got hurt. More seriously than just the normal day to day grind on your joints and bones. That is just it's painful start to finish. Thank God the water is still cold I. think if it wasn't there'd be a lot more injuries honestly but A. Lotta guys get sick. You know I saw a lot of pneumonia in hell week injuries, neck injuries stuff like that and obviously takes you out. Now. There's also a lot of guys that you know it sounds awesome right Navy seals sounds cool like you see some stuff or you hear about jumping are gunfights and all the stuff it always looks cool in sound school it is terrifying some of it in it's extremely. Physically exhausting. And that really wears on you after awhile man I mean it doesn't matter who you are saw guys come there that were just. Absolute performers stronger than me. You know just genetic specimens of human beings that were in my class even quit. And I you know I could only speculate I think some of it. Some guys have stuff going on at home. I mean everybody's got different reasons but. When when it's really made easy to quit something like that. If you've got anything else going on, are you giving yourself sort of a mental second in other words like well, don't make it through this. I've got this other thing that's also pretty good. You're probably GonNa go do that. I mean, that would be the advice I would give a young a young guy that segment I want to go be a navy seal. So I don't have another option don't go in there with like. Well, if I don't make it at least I've got my degree and I can go do this. It's like no man. You're going to do this. This is going to be who you are and for me obviously I fall back on my faith I. Feel like I was in prayer from start to finish but. Also I was that way combat and it's not like levitated through the target and I could see bullets coming I. Mean we still got to go do it right? It's hard core. So you know why people quit there's so many different. a lot of them were pretty valid. Honestly if I if I was in their shoes, I could see something like that. But I, wasn't and I never even thought about it like I was just like I can't wait till this is over but But it's it's true. You know you've heard like as guys quit you Phil Connelly almost empowered like you're taking their energy or something, and when you see a class, go from one hundred and fifty people down to like thirty. You know what I mean in a matter of weeks you're like, wow, know we really the ones still here because it's I mean it's painful and it feels like you haven't even gotten started yet. But anyway it's a special place. There's no doubt about that I haven't. It's been tried to be recreated and other units, and I think they do a fine job especially in the air force with their PJ's in CCD program pretty hard core pipeline there as well. But there's nothing like bud man I mean it's. legit. It is and oftentimes most of the. Amazing stories come from hell weakened and portions like that. But you talk in the book about other parts that are perhaps even more responsible for folks washing out like the dive as explain what happens there and why so many people don't make it out of that. kind of like in first-phase physical conditioning as where you're running around, you're learning how to be a team player. Honestly, they're just grilling that in your head you will do everything as a team nothing is by yourself and you just get used to at least having one person with you call it a swim buddy. Second Phase that's Hell Week is ours was the third week. I. Think they've moved around just to try different things but. You have seven weeks. I believe is was first phase. Then you go into second phase, which is dive. You're continuing on with everything that you're doing for physical tests. Every week you have timed runs time swims, conditioning runs all of them, sand pants and boots. mean run. Forget what it was a six miles a day to eat right and then on top of that your time stuff of courses all this stuff. But diving starts, and you start with open circuit scuba. which is your basic. You know mouth PCC bubbles everywhere big tanks on the back. We call twenty s we put those on with not being in the water and do how will we call duck walk which is you put fends on and you basically do lunges around. It's it looks absolutely as ridiculous as it sounds. And it's absolutely miserable but but diving is is obviously one of the things that we we do and it's Difficult to do. Well, we're talking about diving at night time with with draggers with closed-circuit right with these German. draggers is what we use and there's no bubbles and you can't dive as deep because it's o two zero to becomes toxic past about twenty feet or so after period of time you know you'll start twitching. Ultimately. CONVULSING PASSING OUT IT'LL kill you. Pretty interesting stuff at at serious depths you actually read helium because of just the way the pressure is and and the way the air works under pressure but. Anyway. So you're learning everything about diving, but there's a portion of it called pool cop short for pool completion, and it's before you get to go to a drager in start learning navy seal diving stuff why we're doing it. We're going to blow up a ship to sneak in at appear whatever. You basically go down and they and they try to recreate really horrible situations underwater where. Normally, you would be freaking out really bad and possibly kill yourself your swim buddy and your team if you're on like some sort of uphold I where the whole team is diving into climb up a ship. One guy has a malfunctioning because there's a lot that can go wrong right underwater. We're talking and it's not like you can just be like all right I'm out of here I'm going to go to the surface and gets America's this is a working anymore. So there's a lot you have to learn. And it's all by process. And by numbers and you know you'll go down, you'll be down. You'll be breathing on the bottom of the pool. Let's say you're at twelve feet you're down there and you've got your weight belt on. So you're down at the bottom and you just breathing and one of the things as an instructor will swim down. Take your mouthpiece out immediately. So now you're breath hold, you'll take your. The hoses of your of your mouthpiece and everything he ties him in a massive not ties him onto your manifold of your tanks. Your mask is gone that was gone I equals your mask off. So breath hold at the bid. Pull your weight belt off the they just totally then they'll start spinning your round and you're on a breath hold right. You can't go up right without your breath your. Your lungs will end belies, right. So you're always breeding or letting air out if you're moving up right in diving, there's a lot of things that can happen in their. All scary, right. With, jumping. If it doesn't go perfect. It's go. Really Right. But. They do all the stuff to really see what what what guys do underwater and it's very much a mental thing. I remember Feld, my past, all five things and I fell my last one because when I went down to kiss the bottom of the pool in into go up. You're basically you've taken everything off now you're swimming to the surface for your final thing. I. Actually put my hand down on the pool deck, the bottom of the pool of the push off and that push off. was they considered that me freaking out so they feldman had to do the whole thing over again which I did my crush it, but it's but if I had a failed it again, I would've out of buds. That's how serious it is a while San in. You have five different things that you have to pass in there. All they all get progressively harder to do and more. You know you just gotTa really hold on mentally and you know you're you're on a breath, hold every one of them. So it's it's. It's scary man any do lose a lot of guys in. It's sad because I remember guys still think of right now especially one of them that he had been to buds before. Any failed because a pool calm. The student already been through Hellwig. Twice you know what? I'm saying like hardcore and he failed it again and it was just like Dang I would love to work with this guy, right but. Because of just when you get into the teams. You know you're out in the ocean there's no bully there's no safety. There's none of that man it's you and your buddy, and you better know what to do when he goes down because a happens right and You know we've got to save our buddies lives or you're going to die tryin but. Going through this process is what gets you there and then and then sort of second phase really kicks off after pool comp after proven that you can be counted on in and really making situations you start getting into the dive profiles and you'll be planning your own dive with through swim buddy and. You know we swim these things called Tack Boards which I talk about jumping because we have we jumped to they just sit on her chest while you're under canopy but in the water holding this thing out and I'm not looking around, you're not looking at anything anyway. Because it's dark. It's a bit Costra phobic if your customer phobic, it's it's been difficult for guys that are to kind of get past that and in. You know we're we're working on our accuracy were working on our pace There were keeping time. We figured all this stuff out exactly what the turns are and if you do it, right. which all of us do you get to a point where you hit the exact ship every time and there could be fifty ships in a row and it's nighttime and you're coming from a totally different place in the water and you hit the right one every time, and that's what they're looking for. Justin. Let's take a quick break right now and we'll be right back with much more with Justin Sheffield US Navy seal on. Veterans Chronicles. We're back on veterans chronicles. I'm Greg Columbus honored to be joined today by US Navy Seal Justin Sheffield. He is the author of the new book mob six talking about his time inside seal team six and just talked a lot about buds training in the first segment but let's talk about what happened after that you got married and then join seal team eight shortly after nine eleven. So that's quite a sequence there what's going through your mind when you see how the world's changing and and what does that mean for seal team eight once once the war on terror it started. Re Question. So you know third phase got through buds graduated was on cloud nine, right? Like all of us were just super excited will go through another six months or so. So qualification training that's taken the butthead bud student to be actual tactician, learn how to shoot and basically jump into a platoon. because. That's where you know after that, you're going to your seal team. So went to Fort Benning Georgia. To army. static. Line jump school. Horrifying experience just because it's Fort Benning Georgia. Really. But then came home and got married and. Nine eleven happened and I got married four days later. So it was. It was I will never forget that day because we were both Kinda were were trying to. Focus on each other but there's a lot happening we knew that. My honeymoon. So to speak was going to be driving across country to our birthplace ever together. And checking into silty mate. So is a lot. It was a lot to swallow and I think it was good that way because When there's so much and it's overwhelming. Just start going step by step and But it was awesome and so I went and checked into silty mate and thought for sure that they would call me to go. And I was just a new guy realize real quick they. Had Zero. Know Care about what I had to say or anything I was just a new guy. So learned real quick that. Everybody. There was was also a buds graduates nobody was impressed and basically shut your mouth and show up on time with the right gear and the right attitude. but you know until teammate my first platoon so we We deployed down to Puerto Rico and I got real good at Texas Holdem They have some bad ass casinos down there but I, mean, we were pissed man we were good. We're getting Jackson and you know out the I mean the the ocean's beautiful out there Three months into that I went down to Columbia. Now teaching dudes that are literally living in the jungle, how to do jungle warfare and I'm a new guy is ridiculous and mind you guys are at war right now some man this is embarrassing I'm going to go home. Nine eleven has been going down by this time we're in Iraq already, right. So time had gone by so two wars going on a navy seal, my buddies disliked. So you went to Puerto Rico. What? Are you really you know what I mean it's embarrassing. But it ended up working out. Great you know silty may was awesome I got my chance to try out. For for silting six in my second platoon. So went to sniper school went to another platoon and now in Germany and Afghanistan and I basically left Afghanistan a couple of weeks early to go to green. Team. That was an five. Talk about a couple of things about joining seal team six first of all, you talk about the back to back physical tests that are required to join how difficult was that even after having gone through buds so just to get in. Yeah. So the the the actual physical test to get in is is definitely a little bit harder than the one to get in buds green team itself. I think they call it selection. Now it's very physical I was surprised at that. Actually I thought it was going to be more just you. Know, were checking out everything you are as a tech. Titian ran dissect your personality like can you be here? Can you be at this tempo very physical being our runs there were way longer than anything I ever did the regular like a seal platoon for example but the the tryout, the dam neck PRT I mean it's legit. You know you're the swim has longer I. Don't remember exactly how long the swim was, but it was probably double what the trial for Buzz Buzz and you gotta make it in a very fast time. PULL UPS or more pushups or more shorter times. The Rod is longer and you gotta maintain a pace and it's it's tough because I was twenty five I was one of the youngest guys go over there. A lot of guys a lot older than that over there and you know they don't care about your age. It's it's definitely a young man's game getting there. I'd say now saying that I have seen some really hardcore human beings that are way older in their thirties late thirties even that went through buds and have gone to deb group. In they're just you know they're studs man like I'm forty years old right now. I heard just waking up in the morning Matt. There's no way I could redo that stuff but But anyway yeah. It's very strenuous physically harder surprising. But I was ready man I had been in Afghanistan and just doing eight miles a day around the around the base at altitude. So I was pretty damn good shape. I. showed up. Obviously. So. When were you deployed to? Afghanistan. The first time was in I. Guess it was the beginning of two, thousand, five I left in a October of a four. And when all over Europe basically then Afghanistan late December or early. January. And there for about three months described what kind of work you were doing there I know in some cases, you can't get too specific but what types of missions your ass? Right. So it teammate we you know looking back it was it was almost buffoonery i. mean we were flying into Kotor in the daytime in sixties and faster open into the snow like right next to the target landed on the accent or doing what we the best thing we could come up with. Right. There wasn't really. A, we were still learning off Vietnam tactics. You know on my first platoon, second platoon started getting everything going to night vision than it's you better have a suppressor on your rifle. We're learning these things quickly usually by. Unfortunately by blood and geyser. What was great about the seal team's is the you know it's very unorthodox in the fact that we can take a problem and be like look. Let's get out of the military mindset of of. This square box. Let's. Figure out a way that we can do this whether it was weapons or. or or a way to come in or whatever it was aspect wise of what we do we could we had delinquency to kind of figure it out. And do what's realistic and logical after that deployment in Afghanistan I mean it was a lot of village full village sweeps I mean we'd go in and clear whole village yet people wind up we'd have a source we're looking for one guy I mean it was it was crazy. The rest of them were a Dev group that was very much very different over there. After that lots of combat, how would you describe the Afghan fighters the Taliban ran or others that you face there kind of fighters were they and how did you adapt to them? So what are the ways that we adapted to Afghanistan as a whole first of all the fighters were have respect. For, some of these guys as as able as they are some of them are very good hardman. Okay. These guys up in the mountains are hard guys down South or hard, and obviously the woods up north. I've seen guys. Get Online and take on aircraft come in with zero fear they would try to close the distance with us so we couldn't draw on them. Okay. So we'd have to fight on the ground. In up in the mountains generally what you're doing anyway because there's just the trade is insane there I mean the Himalayas there's no mountains like them just the jagged gnarly. steepness of the terrain and these guys are there they have perfected I mean they've been out there. Think about the history there Genghis Khan Alexander the Great I mean I'm talking way back but obviously. You know let's go back to the seventies eighties made. Russians I mean we're walking by old Russian hope tank hoax right? Halo hoax side of a hill. I'm like Damn Dude like we're going to the same place these dudes did and probably the guys hundreds of years before it's just a, it's a wild place. in a lot of these little villages and tribes up in the mountains men have their own volition. They're not Taliban at all. They're just trying to protect their stuff. You know what I'm saying it's kind of like what's going on in our own country right now it's like. People will come together in the community and be like look if something goes off, you know call me or or let's get together and they're kind of formulating plans and that's what these people do. They're protecting against. The Taliban is unfortunately what they do is they'll come in and completely take over. But I did have respect for the fighters I'd say the Taliban guys are definitely the best Some of the guys in Pakistan were pretty legit as well. Kinda of them together even though they're not but certainly more organized and and using the terrain much better than like say for example, Iraq was. there's fighters. But they're not It was just different. Most of them would run when they're facing us and in a lot of ideas, lot of explosives and stuff like that. You know we've lost buddies to that kind of stuff obviously. But Respect, you know I have respect for them. Justin let's pause one more time. We'll be right back with Justin Sheffield us. Navy seal right here on veterans chronicles. This is veterans chronicles I'm Greg Columbus to be joined today by Justin. Sheffield US Navy seal for fourteen years. He served this nation in uniform and we're learning about his time in combat will also learn about a hostage rescue mission and the mission that he's engaged in right now related to American military veterans and just in just a couple more related to. Your combat one of the things you wrote in your book and I think this is very interesting is. That when you got into combat, things seemed to move in slow motion. For you and you hear elite athletes say that I've heard other soldiers say that it. Would you chuck that up to fantastic training experience where you can kind of see unfolding even before it actually happens what is that indicative of to You great question definitely happens and I think I think experience in training certainly help you navigate but I just think it's this You know. Obviously, I can't speak as a pro athlete and what happens with them but sort of BIS quote unquote. That you get into It was easy to do in combat. I'll be with you and I think others may say the same thing 'cause I'm. You know I wasn't afraid to go into combat like I was a seal team six sniper. So Mike, that's my that is my game. So to speak, it's not a game I. don't mean it like that but. But when the thing kicks off, it's like it's killer be killed. These guys are truly trying to kill you. Or you're trying to figure out what's going on whatever and you know in a gunfight. They don't last that long in especially when you got, you're talking you know ten twelve guys versus the same right I mean everybody's shooting like to start going down quit. So it's just it seems like it takes forever. Don't know how long we were shooting for example, on the hostage rescue Minoza line online firefight but I mean, it was probably seconds less than a minute. It felt like. It felt like forever and what's crazy about it is those moments. Some of those they you really can hold onto you can hold onto the sound the smell everything because you're so heightened the your awareness, your alertness everything is so engaged. That maybe that's why slow down a little bit but you couldn't do that all the time I mean some of the best sleep over got is on the Hilo rideout. Saying is we were done. You know what I mean because you've been so like, Oh, I'm so on the whole way in, for example, I mean. Walking walking point is legitimate whereas you out mentally as well. But. I think you know I. Don't know if that's a good answer, but it's just this level of heightened awareness that just allows you to really slow things down your completely focused on everything you're focus opens up a little bit. And you know fear is gone, all the stuff has gone and you're just in the moment if I die I die I'm going to do everything right I'm GonNa, protect these guys, and I know it was a cool thing. I, think it was a blessing from the Lord really the way that I would handle it mentally because I'd always want to be in harm's way out. Have that urge like if there's going to be something dangerous let me go. With these guys back over here and I think a lot of guys feel that way you know what I'm saying. Absolutely. Wow. You've received Silver Star. Tell us a little bit about your actions that. Resulted in that honor. There's a lot of guys got a silver star that night it was the hostage rescue. I got to be the jumper that's the first one out of the aircraft and talk the stack in on bearings and so on. Built up a little bit here. Justin have the whole story here because this is one of the few fully declassified missions that you are on not only led this. Hostage rescue of an American and a Danish, but you actually tactically organized it, and I believe this was in. Somalia. So just give us a little bit of the setting and then continue place. Sure Yeah. So two hostages got captured in Somalia two thousand eleven really at a at a rough time for all of us. We had just by the biggest loss in history and that was right on the hills of the bin Laden raid. So it was a roller coaster of a year. And these two hostages got. Got Taken and we got the word the GOT Tober on my birthday actually. that they were taken American female and we would listen to approve life calls and just train train we're like. How are we going to get in here? WE'RE GONNA go by water by land stay over day. We just we looked at everything. And the jump option is is a lot of times. It's the most dangerous, but it is the most clandestine and that's how we ended up going with and I said, I'm not the only one that plan this. There's other obviously planners team members involved with everything but being a team leader is It's it's really in my mind it's the place to be at that place. There's there's higher level there's a troop chief, and then you've got the squadron master chief but. As, far as you know where where I liked being was was team later for sure but Because you are, you do have sort of tactical command, which is a great place to be if if that's kind of what you do, right. So. Lead to lead the job I was just actually trained in up a new guy, earn a newer guy to be jumper and of course I. I couldn't let this one pass you know. And and we landed a high winds amine the odds were stacked against us a believe her book is impossible as it's what is called them. That was a great name for it for for my side of things certainly 'cause we had a solar flare that night bad calms Super High Winds. Over one hundred miles an hour under Kanthi than then we turned into the wind. We're going backwards to land guys get all over the place, but we were good everybody was good to go everybody. Made it grace God we got compromised. coming in and the Swiss. These guys were way more heavily armed than than any of us really gave him credit as like this kid a joke right were these seasoned operators in a Mike Davies Samaya. These guys don't have many things in five. AM's as are built of machine guns. Everybody had an AK. Multiple RPG's these guys reloaded the bear and. Once, it starts it. It went very very quickly Basically, I had two guys all wedge off me. I was in the center, have my snipers on the flanks and we move forward and a wedge formation. kind of a line online firefight and it was just guys did exactly what we had talked about that was you're gonNA. Accept Rounds for this hostage if you get shot whatever like you're not you're staying in your lane this isn't I wanNA kill bad guys night. This is like we've got to get these people alive kind of thing and everybody I mean it's not like telling people that. Some No. but it's a different feeling hostage rescue. 'cause you're you are walking out herb jumping off that ramp willing to die right then. You're not anyway but definitely, for hostage Shrike, we've gotTa have that mindset because otherwise it's going to it's GonNa make you maybe do something or hesitate. Because of the danger that you would normally do in a combat situation. Right if bad guys are there, maneuver might step back get behind cupboards like hostage rescue. When it says go go go until you rescue or you're dead and That's it. s sounds Kinda knuckleheads, but that is literally the mentality that you need to do this correctly. because otherwise your fear will get you some. We'll get you right especially when you got guys dumping. Ground belts at you, right. AMMO so I ended up going up a dumped a couple of guys. The first guy shot a hit. He was on a PK hit him in the shoulder does head fell onto his gun I shot him in the top of the head, his head exploded. and I was literally having this conversation with myself is a movement through in I. Shot another dude ride but ended up being right beside her. And everybody's engaging right now, moving forward at one of my buddies yelled her name she poked her head up. From a blanket. And she just. Hit by the way it worked out she was right in front of me. Probably twenty yards or so so. I had dumped. Spent thirteen rounds if I remember correctly. rapid succession semi barrel was extremely hot left. My gun there jumped on her body being another team basically teepee to honor. Were you know, but we have body armor. So we're block in her head talking to her please come down. You know it's OK. We're American we got you. picked. Up and carried her the way we came. For. Several hundred yards in. Anyway. It was a it was a success. It was amazing and the geyser everybody performed God was definitely with the there's no question just a lot of a lot wet wrong and nobody got hurt. Does not add up but. Thank God for it. So in that end, you know it was like that was kind of like our super bowl in my mind say that a lot feels that way because You know guys have done. Hostage rescues there. That's what we do and. Man Is it a good feeling when rescue somebody I can't imagine being on the other side of that but. it's it's good. It's good that there's guys like this for Americans and for our allies because if it's a Brit- will go you know what I'm saying I mean. If we're asking, it's one of our allies I mean these are our brothers. So. Wow did she say anything or was she just too traumatized even? Now she did she I think we've calmed her down a lot I taught I had got to talk to her for a while there on the ground and just tell her that she's asking about our family asked about her husband at the time. She didn't have kids or anything like that. Just got two awesome family beautiful kids now and. You know she scared man she's been out there over three months 'em and You know. We were worried she you know we didn't know what kind of shape she was going to be in but it is is definitely a almost a fairytale story in my mind just you know where the Gi Joe guys go jump in and rescue the girl and and it just worked out amazingly and The mostly just commoner down you know. We're talking Justin Sheffield former US navy seal. He's the author of mob six and just in one of the things that I think folks are going to find very quickly in your book is that it's very honest. It's very real and one of the things you talk about at various times in the book but especially towards the end is the more difficult side of. having served in such intense situations and everything you've gone through and lead to a point where you are very, very close to taking your own life. Once you were back home take us therefore for a little bit just to explain which were going through and I know there were two different things that really helped coming out of that in addition to your amazing wife, of course. Was a specific type of therapy and one wish your Christian faith. So just walk us through that difficult episode and and and how you came out the other side. Yeah. Thank. You, you know I think part of this is these wars the longest may be in our history and. Wouldn't know. To take a break or how how things would affect you or whatever in them. I think mentally I was I was spiraling quickly physically I was done as well. May I've got some parts in my back now? So I can walk around and it's awesome. Where we're at just medically but. When you when you're at a for me, I was at a place that was doing well I. Mean I was. Is Far. As I'm concerned the top is not like I was trying to make more rank or anything like that. It was it was where I always wanted to be in that. Definitely a hard and fast gets taken away. I mean, it's weird when you check out of the command I mean I I. Remember I had to go back for something and they were like had been there ten years I still had the escort me. Of It's like you don't exist anymore. And It's hard. It's hard because you're in this team right in the last thing you WanNa do is leave released the last thing I wanted to do so I think mentally that was tough. Being home more I was so used to being gone all the time now I'm home and. I've got little kids trying to raise in the best I can. medication I mean there's so much medication man I was like Ambi- sometimes. and I think that's part of the problem and that's what we're trying to kind of. You know adjusting guide of the military end guys and buddies and people that listen to this. It's like just be very careful what you take because you're GONNA get prescribed all kinds of things I could go get oxy right now from the va because of the pain level but. I choose not to choose to use other things and and I think it's just educating people but certainly. in a very depressive state and to me I mean I had this thought of suicide for a long time. I mean, I was like soon as I know that my family is going to be okay I'm out man I was done. And it was kind of that mentality and I could wait for it and I think it's part of it's fill. Mike. Failure. Part of it's just physically was hurting all the time and am in own. It's just. And then there's a big part of it. That's just. I don't know what I'm GonNa do failure a loser You know you say you hear. PTSD, their shame with it. Doesn't matter who are and that's part of my. My job is to talk to vets that are going through this that WanNa keep it very secret because they're terrified it's like I'm not gonNA look toughen more not because I've got this problem I can't. You know in Ptsd it's not something you can just make up it's like. Their situations you can get in and nothing ever makes me WanNa hurt anybody anything like that but it makes you very it's almost like you're there again right. So you're sweating in your I can't sleep I can't whatever I'm having nightmares again, all of this kind of thing I mean it's It's this state of being that's just not good man and I don't. I won't say that it's curable but it certainly treatable and I mean time and space away has helped. But certainly, like you alluded to some of the stuff we're doing with the foundation and it's just phenomenal results you know multiple friends. Teammates. From all different branches of service, we've treated I've just seen the same kind of results that I had and the spouses say the same thing I've got my cell and so back this is the guy married. and you know they're not it's not like it's a cure. You know what I'm saying but but what I'm saying is guys are sleeping again on their own instead of taking some pill for sleep or. They're able to focus instead of taking something like adderall or some other deal like that, which is all of that stuff. I wouldn't tell people just throw your meds way like it's good for a little while right it helps it certainly helps me for a while but. What are we talking about here? How many guys are really killing themselves? There's lot I personally know several you know more than a handful of guys that I personally know have killed themselves I. Knew Them. and that's just that's third. I'm talking about the teams right now. Right so go military wide it's crazy and I think part of it is this feeling you're you were on top you're at war and then it's over in your home now the said man so I was just I was just shooting people human beings right fearing for my life. Now I'm home and I'm sitting here in your in your living room or wherever you dislike now I'm supposed to what? In in the way that we are now I mean. I could be overseas by nightfall, and now maybe in an engagement by tonight, right if I was leaving today for deployment. So to speak same thing coming back like you might have just been on an op pack your stuff up at now, your home, all of a sudden because we get on a plane and you go now you're out of that world and in this world, which is totally different. I think all of it has an effect and you looking back I shouldn't take some breaks in there probably. Certainly physically. I should've taken care of my body and. There's this thought I guess this feeling I certainly add I think other guys have is just like we're going to go and it's always we either die or just can't go anymore. You know mean mentally physically whatever it is but You know just there's shame. Shame there you feel like a failure of felt my team I can't cut it anymore. I was just this guy that they relied on now I, can't even be that guy from family or for them or anybody it's it's easy to get to suicide. If that makes sense it absolutely does and just in one of the great things about your story and one of things about the book is once you. Found the help that you needed a in some cases through therapy and also through the strength of your faith and your wife and and all those resources that you had You decided to go help others and that's where the All Eagles Oscar Foundation comes in our last couple of minutes here tell folks about the mission of the foundation and how you minister and how you serve those who were struggling. Awesome thank you. All Eagles. Oscar to call son you WANNA, hear coming off the battlefield. Are. Okay. And, we started this foundation because when I went through this treatment, there was nothing for us to pay for it. So. There's other you know to add some validity. There's not just all Eagles Oscar now there several other veterans that have started their own to raise money for this because the the treatments rather expensive. To Eight, thousand, a veteran and. So when other veterans get a hold of us? Usually by word of mouth, we hear about a guy that's rehab or he's you know about. You. Know Kill himself or whatever. If they're willing to commit some time is it takes some time takes four to six weeks than than we take care of it man in I've seen some amazing results for me personally. We are all definitely GONNA die. Mean to sound morbid here. But that's a fact in a lot of people. They don't pay mind to that. They think about their retirement when they get old and how they're gonNA do whatever their hobby is and they don't think like actually you're you're at some point which you have no idea when. You'RE GONNA. Cease to breathe in the skin with your head. And you know the Bible obviously says that we will continue on because we're created and. We're GONNA go somewhere. So I I you know the Gospel. Message, in God Almighty himself. You know is is I will give him credit to while still here as well. I battled that for a long time. Can I kill myself? Have I you know I haven't even been given God a chance to quote unquote fix me or or It's like I, I gave up. And the Lord definitely did not let me give up and it's it's troubling because I have friends and family who who really rally. Not I had people that were would love to see me kill myself to bad people out there that just they want people to hurt because they do but friends and family I know not everybody has. And I had some good ones in and To include my kids so I had a lot of reason to not do it but you're you're not thinking that way. I, mean I was in my closet thinking about blowing my brains out you're not stinking properly. You know what I'm saying like I'm not I'm thinking that I'm going to do everybody a favor. By leap like a mad. person. Not, a good dad like they're gonNA be better off without me. That's just the mindset that that I have to talk people out of like, no, you're not man. It's all good like we love you. You don't need to kill yourself. There is help there's a lot of life to be lived and we need you know Veterans Irv. especially. This Day and age I mean you're talking about very productive human beings in our country that get out ended up doing amazing things for other people. And you look at the array of foundations like mine that for different things, guys on their legs off or. Whatever it is, there's so many things because guys get better in their like I've gotTA help my buddies I've found something just like were teams. It's like I'm not going to hold this thing in just I'm going to get better screw everybody else. It's the opposite. It's like man look this works try it out I'm a huge advocate for cannabis use. CBD's legal in Texas I grow my own medicine at CBD. It's not doesn't make you high, but it certainly helps with pain innings, -iety, and stuff that normally I'd probably could get a pill for and and I've just seen that also help me in other veterans. And it's something that I think should be looked at pharmaceuticals are making entirely too much of the being veterans but that's a whole nother conversation itself. But All Eagles Oscar, we take the vet we put him in Brain Treatment Centre and Magnetic. Resonance therapy is what we're what we're treating them with a electromagnet tend to a specific frequency in it. Pulses re period of time in overtime and influences neurons misfunctioned back to everything working and they can see it. You can see it on any G. it's amazing. Like if I showed you a picture of my brain when I got there to over the course of the time I was there he'd be like this the same brain. So it is amazing results The foundation we're not going anywhere in the lining in shorter. So one of the major reasons why did this number one is to preach the gospel of Jesus Christ to let people know that there is hope and were made in the image of God by creation and he loves US and the other thing is to let veterans know that we have hope like there are some answers here. and it's not killing yourself I'd say. Thank, we've lost more vets killing themselves in combat. Pretty horrible. So When do something about it? That's all is sobering beyond description. The work you're doing is extremely encouraging and obviously. Your own personal stories is very motivating as well and Justin. We thank you for sharing that. Thank you for your time today and we of course. Thank you for your incredible service to our country. We really appreciate it my honor man. Thank you very much for having me. You Bet Justin Sheffield US Navy veteran US Navy seal author of the new book mob six, a seal team six. Battles in the fight for good over evil he's also president and CEO of the All Eagles Oscar Foundation. I'm Columbus this is veterans chronicles.

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Episode 18: Gary Sheffield Plus The Labrum Explainer

Pinstripe Lanes Podcast - New York Yankees (Unofficial)

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Episode 18: Gary Sheffield Plus The Labrum Explainer

"And episode number eighteen of the pinstripe planes podcast is brought to you by the Yankees injured list. The I L because at the rate that it's growing it may have an advertising budget soon enough. Welcome to the pinstripe lanes podcast. Here's radio host and lifelong Yankees fan ralphie overs. By the way, big change this year from the D L to the I L we'll talk about that. And one of the players on the affirmation. I Al with one of our guests this week on episode number eighteen inside season two of the pinstripe lanes podcast. Hello, I am ralphie Aversa spent opening weekend up at the stadium cut a couple of games caught opening day, which was cold. But a lot of fun big. Thank you to our buddy. Eric who his seats are awesome? By the way, section four seventeen up in the grandstand. But row one so you got a beautiful view of the field. No one in front of you. He's close to the isle. He's in the shade the entire time. So a game like Thursday, maybe not ideal. But those hot summer days that will be absolutely perfect. Hopefully, get to join him for a few more games. Thank you Eric for that. And then we had quite the adventure. On Sunday had a whole squad of people with us spent way too much time at. Stadium pizza on one fifty seventh and river did eventually get my calendar for calendar day and make it inside for a little bit of the game did leave early and look we don't normally breakdown. What happens on the field? Anyways, win loss record so on and so forth, not ideal. What's been happening more? So though, the injured list that has continued to grow from Severino and Sobat thea to Batanes us in Giancarlo Stanton. And of course, Miguel and do har- and the latest Troy to Lewinsky calf strain taking him out of Wednesday afternoon's game against the Tigers were taping this during the game. So we'll wait to see what happens that. Hopefully, it's nothing too serious now that we are expecting to low to anchor our lineup. But I mean, nothing. Not fair. Jay's few more Uber rides. I guess up from northeastern Pennsylvania to the Bronx as Tyler way did when the news of Miguel and do hires. Injury broke earlier this week couple other quick notes real quick what I liked what I didn't like opening day. What I liked grandstand terrace level. They have added a bunch of beer stations and bars. So you don't have to travel all across the stadium to get or have any special access to get a mixed drink. So I love that. When I didn't love was seeing the lines from the soccer field. Still on the baseball diamonds. Is this Joe Robbie is this Candlestick Park. Or is this the big ballpark in the Bronx the boss rolling in his grave. I'm sure on opening day as the lines the midfield lines and the goal lines. And the the boundary lines from NYC FC who by the way. I haven't been to a game. I probably won't go. Now after that. That was just that was brutal. Not a good luck. Yankees wrapping up their first home stand of the season. They had down to Baltimore this weekend. I will not be going. I will be in in Vegas. So don't cry for me again. However, if you are going pickles as they must game must pre-game stop definitely gotta hit that up. And then if you're looking for something else to do while you're in Baltimore this weekend. Especially if the weather's nice, I haven't looked forecasts. But go to fell's point lot of great spots around there, including low fills where you can order yourself natty, Bo and take part in a little free pool and dollar jello shots and away. You go on that. Okay. Great podcast for you on deck. We mentioned all of the injured Yankees, including and do har- a small tear of the labor in the right shoulder. What does that mean? And what's the prognosis? We'll try to get an idea of it. Although he's not treating Miguel. Of course, he is a huge Yankees fan and a doctor of physical therapy, host of a wildly popular physical therapy podcast as well. Called the pine cast will be joined by Jimmy MacKay next. And then after that interview, we taped recently at the David Ortiz celebrity golf classic. Yes. The golf classic the benefits big Papi's foundation. He helps out kids with heart disease both in New England and in his native Dominican Republic, but a number of Yankees throughout the years have supported him in that including the chef man himself. Gary Sheffield's, you will hear from Gary Sheffield and our sit down conversation with Mr. Sheffield later in the podcast all out to get to on episode number eighteen inside season two of the pinstripe planes podcast, Jimmy MacKay, doctor of physical therapy joins us next. Welcome back to the pinstripe planes podcast. I am ralphie Aversa the Yankees, I l continues to grow by the way, it's not a D L anymore. This year. They changed that to the injured list throw to Lipsky, obviously as we tape this podcast got pulled out of a game. He's got a calf strain apparently. So they don't know what that's going to entail. We'll have to wait. And see of all of the injury news, though. It seems that the biggest involves and maybe the the longest from an implication standpoint involves Miguel and do har- the Yankees sophomore third baseman basement had a great rookie campaign. And of course, Sunday at a game. I and our next guest was at on Sunday while sliding back into third base and do har- apparently suffered a small tear of the labor m- in his right shoulder. What exactly does that mean? Well, that's why we bring on our next gust of the pinstripe planes podcast. He is a doctor of physical therapy. The director of communications at FOX rehabilitation and. The host of the PT pine cast, which as of last month surpassed one point four million downloads. He is Jimmy MacKay. Jimmy. It was great to hang with you in the Bronx this past weekend. And thanks for joining us today. Yeah. Good to be back, and we hung out for a little bit longer with that rain delay got to pre game the pre-game just kept pre-game ING. Yeah. That's basically what happened and something I came to to realize I don't know if you did your clothes, smell, like whatever cleaner. They use it stadium pizza. You know, I didn't even notice honestly by the time. I got home. It was a couple of we had a couple of beers. It was a prolonged hang at stadium pizza, which I have always been a huge fan of it's on one fifty seventh right around the corner there on river. I would say this the past couple of times I've gone in there. There was a very interesting smell in first of all it's it's not the cleanest place, and you pick that up by walking into the bathroom. However, there is a certain cleaner they use. And it's it's not like a flowery smell. It's like the same type of cleaner. You would expect like has met to use something like, really? Bad happened in there. And basically like after being there for three hours in waiting out, the rain delay like we did this past Sunday. My clothes smelled of that. So I would say moving forward while I'm still a fan of stadium pizza. Not maybe the place to hang out for three hours while we were there taking advantage of three to ten beers the Yankees, I thought were staying loose to injuries came of this game on Sunday at least two that we know of one being Giancarlo Stanton. Our guest from last week on the podcast who suffered a biceps strain and is on the ten day. I l and then of course, and do har- who was on third base slid back into the base completed the rest of the game. But then as we later found out suffered this small tear in his labor them. So Jimmy first things first what is the labor them? So actually, I want to start with something you brought up, and I wasn't planning on talking about which is the change between D L to I l and that goes, the as a physical therapist that talks about what people are able to do physical thera. Purpose might work with with athletes. You know, there's there's PT's on the medical staff for the New York Yankees. But physical therapists work with all people of abilities level. So this is actually a language issue. That's right in the heart of of my role to physical therapy is they're they're talking about disability being people who who might be born with with something that we've preclude them from doing something versus an injury. So they've actually separated that so now. Yeah. Now, referring to it as the I L now, what did we Ridgely bring me in for the labor them. That's whatever he wants to know. So the shoulder and the hip are both ball and socket joints. I think we can really visualize that if you ball up one fist, and you and you cut your other hand over it. That's the ball and socket. The hip is a really really deep ball and socket when you hear someone dislocating a hip that's a devastating injury. Just like Bo Jackson when he dislocated his hip which led to his career shortening injury. But the shoulders also technically a ball and socket. Joint. And it's but it's not as deep as the hip. So I was I was taught it's really easy to visualize. It's more of a golf ball on a Gulf te- that technically is still a ball and socket joint. But it's not as deep and the labor comes in as kind of a gasket, it's this cartilage ring that helps to deepen the golf tee around the golf ball. If we're using that analogy for the shoulder and the issue with the labor, MS throwing overhead, and this is where you get a little league coaches trying to limit innings in players. It has a lot to do with elbow health. But also shoulder health is that labor is this cartilage ring that helps deepen that socket. It's also prone to throwing overhead injuries, and it's really dangerous and professional baseball players because it's so gentle it does heal itself. But not as well as most of the rest of the body. So hearing that they will try a conservative approach with this with this labor Minju. And again, I'm not treating so I'm not one hundred percent, sure. What the extent of his imaging was saying. But hearing that it's it's it's labor injury isn't great. But don't run to season ending just get the next couple of weeks. We'll we'll be pretty telling in terms of what he's able to do. And you did mention something as well. Which is you're a great PT trying to stay warm. You know, you're hearing about the calf injury from two wits. Get you just mentioned the bicep injury from Giancarlo which will get to those could be due to staying warm or not staying warm because we'll wrap the two injuries together. The bicep actually attach is right next to the Laborem. So if you have a biceps tear or labor mich- view one could look like or feel like another we have Dr physical therapy hosts, the PT podcast TIMMY McKay with us here on the pinstripe lanes podcast. I'm ralphie Aversa. All right. So covered a lot. There is in by. The way great visualization. That's the best I've explained I've I've heard the labor MC explains. I actually know what it is. And you talked about the conservative pro approach at least for now that the Yankees are taking. I mean, what's typically speaking and again because you're not treating Miguel you can't speak specifically to his situation. We did hear however about Greg bird who basically, and nobody knew this went to the same thing in twenty fifteen nobody realized that he actually had a small tariff his labor him in twenty fifteen took the conservative approach was able to rehab it come back, and then had that big impactful year with the keys in two thousand fifteen the dollar to that story, though, is that he eventually did need surgery in twenty sixteen so with that overhead motion with also the sliding motion with the shoulders. I mean for me, I look at this at I almost think that it may be inevitable that he needs surgery and do har- am I wrong to think that so I was actually listening to some of my colleagues has guy. By the name of leading Macri, no works for the guy. But that a Mike Reinhold and those two guys have been affiliated with the Boston Red Sox, and Dr James Andrews who pretty much invented Tommy John surgery, these guys know baseball, and then no upper extremity, and they said, listen, there's evidence out there that if you take an MRI of most professional baseball players because these guys have been thrown baseball since they were five and six if you take an MRI of most of these guys with or without pain or symptoms. You're gonna find a tear. Okay. So this is really something that are good at which is which is education. Just because you find something on imaging doesn't mean you have to rush to surgery. So the good thing is right now, the Yankees are pretty stacked. Right. They have some people that can slide in behind these players, and these are these are high value players, so we're not going to rush these guys back to service. So I would have to say, no, not necessarily. But you just gave the great example of bird who they wound up finding out. He did have a tear but needed surgery, my guess that. At tear that they found on his imaging was probably there for a while. And you could image a bunch of people like I said, and it really is they're going to act on it based on symptoms in ability versus what you find on a scan. Because again, if you scan me believe me man, you're going to find a lot of stuff before we wrap Jimmy anything to add on the Stanton injury. Or no stand injured right now, I'm looking at by biceps injuries and especially a tendon injury. And again, I don't know the ins and outs. But I would say this is going to be short-term. They're probably going to reduce his workload for a little bit. He's going to he's going to do some non baseball. I'm using air quotes non baseball work, which means staying in shape, but they're probably going to limit his throwing as well. So again, these things can come together in terms of where the labor actually is where the biceps tendons because the biceps has two heads where it attaches one of those attachments is near the labor them. My guess is they're just going to limit his activities for a little while. My guess is you'll see him back in a week or two doing some D H work. Hopefully. We get a little bit warmer. So some of these injuries, hopefully, hopefully decrease, but I don't think anything major for Giancarlo. I'd say fingers are definitely cross. Right. Put the hopes and prayers in terms of that labor ministry, again, he is a doctor of physical therapy host of the PT podcast, which you can find a PT podcast dot com or wherever else you find podcasts, including this one. Of course, the pinstripe lanes podcast, Jimmy MacKay, great hang last week. And hope we get to do it. A few more times here up in the Bronx. And as always, thanks for the knowledge, I want to be back on the show. And when we bearer of good news. It's all bring some good news. The next time when these guys are making full recovery and we get on with the season like that coming up on the pinstripe planes podcast. Gary Sheffield hang on. Welcome back to the pinstripe lanes podcast. Don't forget, we're at pinstripe lanes on all of your favorites social networks. Okay. So I went this past fall down to the Dominican Republic for my first time to the David Ortiz celebrity golf classic benefiting the David Ortiz. Children's fund big Papi is a very first of all he's a great host. But also he's super carrying and he gives back, and I know it's a little weird gang podcasts and them talking lovingly of Ortiz here. Look, I hate them just as much as any other Yankee fan imaging the baseball lines. But you know off the field. It's a different story as you'll come to here with our guest this week. And so poppy has found Asian. He uses it to help kids who are battling heart disease both in New England. And in the Dominican Republic, it's a great weekend that he has down in his native Dominican Republic a lot of other athletes and celebrities stars from using and movies. I'll come. Down a lot of big sponsors as well. There's a great live auction. And it's just a it's it's it's great that a poppy does the work that he does with his Dacian. But it's also be great that he shows off the Dominican Republic his his country in in such a great light, and such a great fashion. And I truly enjoyed my time down there with him and his crew end with everyone in the DR while I was there, of course, a number of athletes participating in the cause and a couple of former Yankees one, of course, being Johnny Damon who may be the only athlete that can walk into any restaurant in New York or Boston and have a drink and or meal purchased for him and his crew. But the other being somebody who probably wasn't too beloved in Boston. But I enjoyed his time as a Yankee for sure, and I know a lot of my friends did as well. And then of course, was former Yankee number eleven Mr. Gary Sheffield and was interesting. I started off my chat with Gary by. By recalling time in two thousand sixteen may of two thousand sixteen it was poppies last season in the bigs. And I remember going to a game a Saturday day game in the Bronx the Yankees ended up winning. It was one of those like four o'clock first pitches on FOX Yankees Red Sox. Poppy goes oh for four Yankees win. I'm so pumped up. I'm like, you know, what I'm buying tickets. And I'm buying good seats because I want to be close to the action. I wanna be able to boo poppy. And I want him to be able to hear me, boom. So I buy tickets for Sunday night baseball the next night at Yankee Stadium. I'm about twelve rows behind home. Poppy, you, you know, how the story ends to for four two home runs Red Sox when and I feel like that was a pretty good summation. Good microcosm of what it was like to be a Yankee fan ruining against big Papi. I asked Gary Sheffield, what was it like to be a player in the opposing dugout playing against? Big papi. It was frightening. You know, when he came up to the plate, especially when the game was on the line as a as an outfielder, you notice big lesson hitter standing up there, you know, Jorda time ball's coming at me, and my way so I've seen a lot of ball sell over my head, and you know, and I say him balls sell over the head. So at the end of the day, you know, big Papi's always been threat with the bat, and you know, plan against all the years that we have you know, we always respect his game. And we always respect him as a person. Yeah. You know, I I find that very interesting to the fact that you know, you do have a lot of former players whether they were teammates or not that come here to the Dominican Republican have come throughout the years to support this. Why is that because he's a people's person? And you know, he's Bruce out the energy and the love that he has and he received it back from all athletes because he puts out good energy. And when you do that as a player your peers. Respect you for that. This my fourth time here. You know? I once I started seeing the difference that he was making kids lives, you know, especially, you know, you know, been been, you know, in competition all these years, and when you know when baseball players give back we feel like we're part of the family and doing so I feel like just come here. I paid my little small part of pitching in an I'm an I'm forever grateful for that. You have a poppy story from your playing days, you could share now. Well, actually, I went over in. No, New York fans in Boston fans, don't know this. But I actually went over his house in Boston before game and had dinner with you know, a lunch with him and his dad his dad was in town. He wanted me to meet his dad, so he brought me over there yet his family over there. And we hung out before game. Is that one of those things especially in the in the height of the rivalry is that one of those things where it's like, you have no problem doing it. But you gotta make sure no one sees you getting it exactly, you know. We know what it derive means to to the fans in which ought to respect that. But at the end of the day, the players don't hate each other. It just when you get between the lines. That's when you know, I wouldn't use the word hate. But that's when you take the rival know series but off the field, we'll human beings talking with Gary Sheffield here in the Dominican Republic. Of course that David Hart teases annual golf charity. Classic. Huzzah, Huzzah, TV get going always going fine. You know, I'm having a lot of fun with pay. Joe? I'd never thought I'd be sitting on TV talk page. Oh and hanging out at big Papi's golf tournaments. But you know, they want say to note, he's guys they're wonderful guys hearted people. You know, good family men. That's what I'm all about. So you know, when when people putting out divide and live in the lifestyle that you're living. You want to be a part of that as well. You know, I I think about you. And it's there's somebody else I think about when I taught players making that transition into now good media analysts. I think Apollo Neil is well because both of you guys weren't always considered in the media's very outgoing people. We'll just put it put it like that. And yet now you've you both become very good on television. What is it been like to to see the game from a different side now? Well, because you start on the standing when guys struggling you know, what they're going through. And basically, you you know, how to you know, bring the the reality to the fan. Dan and get defend engaged on what's going on with that player. Whether he's playing good always he's playing bad. We'd never tried to always try to deal with a player how wanted to be dealt with. And if an F, I if I'm talking about a player in I wouldn't say negative way. What just telling the truth about his play this nothing wrong with that? As a as a player. I wanted somebody that critique my play, and if they talked about if I was playing bad if I was planned bat while I'm getting mad about them telling the truth, and I think that that's the way all players want to be treated wrapping up here with Gary Sheffield, others a silent auction for the charity. There's a lot of great memorabilia items. Do you have a what what's the one keepsake? You have from your playing days. I got a Hank Aaron jersey signed by Hank. Aaron when I signed to go to the Braves, it was it never dawned on me that this is demand that my Granddad was talking about all these years. And then I finally get chance to meet him and talk with him. And he was just a great person. He signed Josie for me when I got there. And I never forget it. My thanks to Jimmy MacKay of PT podcast fame. I thanks to Gary Sheffield. And of course, everyone at the David Ortiz children's fund my thanks to you for rating reviewing and subscribing wherever you get podcasts. And of course, following along at pinstripe planes on all of your favorite social networks. I'm ralphie Aversa. And this is the pinstripe lanes podcast. Let's go Yankees.

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Episode 66: Big Maple Meets Big Apple

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Episode 66: Big Maple Meets Big Apple

"The. Todd as five ago, the body love these Aaron Boone the leader this person out of the. These. The first. Portrait roy? What's up? What's happening? Welcome into another dish of the short porch a special offseason traded ishin of the short porch. I'm your host hubs the barstool Sudi does have first time at a longtime. Tommy, smokes Majko's. What's happening? They've got. What's up? I am. I'm having a crisis right now. He really down Instagram story. I my full behind the scenes video is out threats. Fifteen second preview on my Instagram store with swipe up I had it done. But interim was down like all morning. So it was never uploading. And how put a million different times one of the ones that I applauded forgot without the link. And right now, I'm uploading one. And I think I forgot catch link again. But I'm not sure because it's taking forever to go. It is. I want one question. Yes. Are you gonna cry? I just gonna keep growling and just growling before I don't know if you realize like video recording. But that was bad. Well, the reason you tuning in the reason we're doing the special podcast a day after we just there last one we've been a trade the cash cod Brian Cashman, the dark Lord at his finest goes and gets a starting pitcher. We need a starting pitcher. When you multiple starting pitchers. We got one James Paxton Seattle. Mariners big maple the pacman come into the Big Apple. It's a great nickname. The house is all time. We change Paxton. He's pretty fucking good. There's some pros and cons of this. A big comma gateway Justice Sheffield is our number one prospect, we had Sheffield's podcast. We are the only players should have been on this podcast, Josh Rogers, and just Sheffield have both been traded. That's not great. We're kind of in the works of getting void on this podcast. I'm not sure if that's a great idea for gonna have people avoid coming on like the plague. Yeah, we're we're pretty close. We're gonna work to have Ryan Ruko in like a couple of weeks. I mean is he just going to get fire from? Yes after coming all time. Maybe that would be the real curse. But James Paxton is big time. He has a potential to be a true as people who are disputing that. The numbers back that up without a doubt. He's very cheap to the payroll. He's the perfect wet dream guy that come on the team with perfect wet dream guys a huge in terms of staying into luxury tax. Oh, yeah. I guess let me finish the sentence. Yeah. Uber would be up there to write him in cl-. Yeah. Like those guys he made four million dollars a year. So he's on arbitration next two years of free twenty twenty one. Yeah, he'll get probably make ten this year, but Justice Sheffield departing. I almost think this is more of a testament to not that paxon's the bigger get. But that's chef there's a problem with Sheffield. And I and we're not here to trash I feel at all. The best. I literally route every time is out there. I just think the organization gave up on him with control issues and how they legitimately never improved. We came up his shorts. It was. I think it was the biggest red flag on September. First when his name just wasn't there as a call up, and he came back came up a little later. But the fact that like he wasn't ready by September first date entrust this. They his stuff is all time. And I love the whole, you know, he's kind of stroke. He's a lefty Stroman the fact that he's short, you know, people can't him out for that. But he's Deepak law. Punt packs a big punch in in his small body. But I wish the best it's very clear control issues Cashman, and the analytic department did not agree with, you know, those and they didn't want to didn't want to wait long enough to see it come. It's that like they may think that just the Sheffield might develop into a good pitcher. But he's he's not going to be that within the next. We're looking right right now the he's are in win. Now Mody went quickly from a quota. Rebuild to let's win a World Series every single year mode. James Paxton is basically he's what just the Sheffield could. Yeah. But he's that now. So I don't mind. I don't think I am. So on the trade, but it's not because we traded Justice Sheffield like I think just the Sheffield was kind of a necessary piece to move for starting pitcher because just Sheffield is a guy who could become a very good starting pitcher one day. The inky is need a very good starting pitcher today. So I don't mind including Sheffield in the deal. All the other two guys. Not big names. I know twats twenty two prospect of things that we were going to lose Wanson right to be put on the forty man roster almost immediately. I think it was almost hit a day or to be put on it. Otherwise, they're gonna lose him to the rule five draft. And they just didn't want that wasn't. It's better. Is it Dylan hate till Tate type thing they because they were gonna lose him. Anyway. So it's really a one for one when it come. Looking at this. It's not a big call. I just would prefer trading Sheffield for another pitcher. I look I'm I'm torn on James Paxton, but he could be great. He could be but he's to a degree. A half a question Mark is that fair to say he's Pouvaana ask it's von so. So obviously, the biggest all his numbers and his starts an emerald. He's healthy. Top Blake ten to fifteen pitcher in baseball. That's how good we're talking here. The leader through no hitter sixteen strikeout game this year had two hundred two hundred plus strikeouts. And only one hundred sixty innings. Those numbers are great doesn't walk anybody. So he's not going to nibble he attacks you. He's got a fastball that goes up to ninety nine. He's he's big time. And he's a lefty you wanna sack as many left. He's in that Yankee Stadium as you can because you know, hurting threat socks a little, but it did. But in general like you want as many left in that ballpark. It's going to help the most the obvious downside is that he's injury prone. And it's happened really his whole now there's a good side to it. He's never had Tommy John. He's never had shoulder issues. It's all just weird straight. So I got a list here. He's had a bad. Lot stream. He's had a bed finger tendon strain. There's been a bruised. Elbow of verse forum. A strain for him, strain, peck, lower back, inflammation, all that shit. It's shit. A little bit is like he's had all that is he do for an arm injury. Or is it just was it just like a weird string of flukes because he did have a hundred sixteen this year. That's not great. But it's the most he's pitched in a while and remember reading, yes, he changed something up his diet or anything. He did get injured less did get injured. It's very concerning that the fee is very high risk higher award trade, the high risk is that Justice Sheffield d comes this guy. We, you know, we thought we were trading for when we got Andrew Miller and all those people, but the downside, and obviously if he packing it's her the downside is that thing about the bright side. Think about all the prospects. Cashman is traded recently. Can you think of one that really like got us? No one's ever a superstar. No one Dustin Fowler's it like and he hasn't done anything. Really? He's he's been serviceable. Billy mckanie hit a couple homers. Like, can you think in Iraq? I really can't think anyone we treat it away. That is really like turn into at least recently in recent memory. Solarte's? He's at least an everyday player now. That's it. But he's been on a couple teams in my he's not. I mean, he's not like a superstar by any means. One include him short. Yeah. I'm drawn a blank can't. Yeah. So I trust Cashman that he knows. Someone from the bullpen. Some of the became a bull. Really good. Mark Milan-San ended up being pretty maybe Mark. Whatever cash. Mark mouland. When he knows I trust Cashman to know when he went to let these prospects coat just off his his his track record. Right. So obviously love Justin. I'm going to refer him and Seattle one hundred percent just like I refer Josh Rogers in Baltimore. But it's, you know, Cashman set if Cashman doesn't trust it, and maybe it was gonna take too long to get him where he needs to be. Maybe he's just going to max out as reliever in his career that could very will happen people projected that because he's more of a to whatever. But the whole Paxton thing the upside is that the free agent market was thin. We knew that coming the top guy was Patrick Corbin near Dallas kaikal. And then it's really drops off from there. It's it's not ideal for the Yankees to be this offseason with this much money to spend in having not the best names out there. Then you're looking at the trade market. How much does the Madison Bumgarner costs you probably a fuck ton? How much Corey kluber toss you probably fucked and he still on the table kluber. I think would now just you have to send her down and do too harsh Sheffield package is off the table. Obvious think Cleveland wanted Sheffield back. I think they hadn't him. So I see that happen too often to bring guy. I I I don't think they knew what they were getting they knew what they had in Sheffield, and they traded that guy away already. So they weren't trying to I don't think they wanna do that. I will say fuck I just totally lost my train of thought. Oh that the trade market. If you had to pick a guy who had the highest potential who would cost the least. Yeah. It's it's packed at one hundred percent because his stuff his little there's a fan graphs charts that tweet it out of his percentiles from twenty. Sixteen in two thousand eighteen and the numbers, you know, V low era a v exit stripe strike percents k percentage walked percentage all the shit. He's in the ninety five percentile, basically, I saw someone say like if you extrapolate some of his numbers till like six hundred innings or something for the past three the fourth highest war pitcher in baseball something along those lines can stay healthy. This is gold, which is the inky need another if in their rotation dots said, you kind of had to take the gamble with how the market you have to the rotations. You have to take a gamble, and you know, like Patrick Corbin being your top guy. You're going to get the offseason is not going to cut it. Yeah. And there's I mean, they still might get Gordon. He wants six years apparently. And they wanna give a four on four and the maybe settle in the middle. Maybe go to five, but he wants six that's the thing though is signing Corbin or even a half is then you're three lefties. I'm also saying it your chance have three lefties. That's why won't kluber to kind of be the right? That's one hundred percent. But I just think it's gonna be tough to. I think we both have agreed that there are going to get to starting pitchers one via treat in one via free agents. Yes. So the trade, right. So I mean, I think horrible. They've talked about. I think I think you've all these is a classic. When we got Chapman. And how the cubs blood Chapman's arm in October. And he kinda like had a shitty Chapman for a little bit or came back. But I just fear that you've all these are also he's just he's a red sock. Like, he. Phases so easily. Yeah, we'll say it's very nice that the Astros apparently could have had Paxton if the gave the number one prospect chose not to which kind of mirrors the Garrett Cole situation of last year where we were in that boat. And we didn't want to give up her certain guys and the Astros did. So may you know, Cashman's kind of hoping for that too? He went he he decided fuck like, let's Banda are probably last year for core. Frazier was like one guy, but I feel like they wanted to end or two and that was the first one Glebe which ever was. But I do like the move. And I kind of caught me surprise because it's it was November nineteenth. I mean. It's like I didn't think we're going to get anything till dissemble. It was clear they wanted to address it quick. Yeah. But overall, I'm and Jared cross will tweet like, oh, the Red Sox killed him less ship, blah, blah, blah. That's not true. I mean, his our as against them a bad start last year, but his career four starts and like a two to four twenty two the thing. I really like about James Paxton, he doesn't walk anybody. He has walk anybody. He he's like in tops in baseball instructor in strikeout-to-walk ratio last year two hundred eight strikeouts. Just forty two walks at his phenomenal numbers. You want that ratio? Is you don't want anyone Nivola? That's almost that's a five to one issue. That's like unheard of Kersey whenever you're four pitch like in high school and shit. You aim for two to one. Oh, I never all our get hit. I wouldn't walk. Okay. I put over the plate. Let them head fielders. Make a play pitcher. I was a lot of Delon now debt like the fact I really wouldn't get hit hard, but walk shit. Oh, fucking walks. I tell you Greg Maddux. I love walking off guy. Dad would freak out. I remember one time. I was I came in from centerfield like someone loaded the bases with like, nobody out and I came in and like relief. And I remember the way running in from centerfield like in my head. I was like playing enter the San man dots. How it felt just because like usually, you know, when you pitch your coming out from the dugout or something the way, I was running in feel and I was like so pumped up first pitch at someone. I knew that. There was going to go one or two one three ways you gave up a grand slam. You tripped and fell the L few bound. Were you hit some of this? That's awesome. But overall, I I like to trade I people I was a little hesitant at first. And you have to be with those injury concerns, but he's never had anything crazy series selling. He's had Tommy John like that. He hasn't. Yeah. At this almost prefer for guy has had it because it's like you get out of the way. But when you have string of injuries I liked homage on the not be one of those. I'd like fair it's just it's bumps in whatever three hundred sixteen last year. It's not ideal. But if we can get that up to one eighty five two hundred that we that's unbelievable. He's cheap Pranab for two years of free agent twenty twenty one and he slides right up there. And listen, we get all he want. The next year is lost. Unless we Luis Severino. Returns to form the key to office. Who do you think the opening day starters sevi- still savvy or someone on the team right now? I mean, they go get kluber. Then I think that would be the only guy that can I don't think Paxton is going to. Either. I don't think they want to put the pressure on pure opening day guy. He's done number two. I think he's to over Tanaka. That's a good three. That is a good Severino pitches to his capabilities, Severino Severino. Paxton Tanaka is a good one. I agree. And then you throw in who's your fourth guy. Patrick Corbin be pretty fucking good fourth guy. Yeah. Still again, the Fs that worry me, but I guess degree every pitcher. Life is a big if who knows if like we'll be back here for the next podcast. Come that helps. It was. I don't know how much we can talk. Jay's Paxton PA. I think we kinda exhausted that but real quick, you know, the city of for too long. We're getting here do do a little something here. But morosi tweeted out today that we're back in on Harper. We've had discussions it's unrealistic. But like it's being talked about us in him at first base. That's fucking cool. I I tell Frankie's like I can't I can't take this shit one day. We're out in the one day. We're all Machado and that's the season. That's why I like to I like, my brain just going eighteen different actions. I'm just going to be so upset if like after all this just blue ball. We don't get either of them like big is free hit the market in forever. I will say making a move on November nineteenth like that cash worth thanksgiving show up with Cashman's like just just got his feet up on his fucking chair right now everyone's home for thanksgiving, Cashman's, not going home early Cashman's Cashman's on the phone. He's calling GM like cast. It's like six thirty on thanksgiving. I'm eating dinner crasher just serve Turkey. I'll give a fuck Corey kluber. I will say very. That the Astros are in talks with propulsion don't like that not Paul Goldschmidt in the middle of that one. No. And also Saint Louis talks good go to Saint Louis everyone. Go to go to the NFL Cisco, the I do not need policemen on the Houston Astros of another thing. Screw janette. We've been talking about him constantly, you pretty much the driving force this you brought him up. He is not attending reds FanFest everyone else's. He's got some other shit to do. They pant put him on the have to wonder wonder if he's going to be treated this Sunday. I will make a prediction I think I don't know of GM's will operate this weekend. I know Cashman, we'll pick up the phone. But so of GM's are operating this weekend this week the holiday I'd say Sonny gray is on the reds by the next time. We do a podcast like next Monday. Yeah. So I think they just wanna get decorative, and plus Kashmir's me cash from you know, you're at the bar you tricking lot. Once you break, the seal, whatever, I think, Cashman, just broke the seal on the off-season. Yeah. Let's fucking go. You gotta strike while the aren't I mean, you have to I don't I hate when the offering toy January February was last year. Yeah. It was really weird, especially free market. Wasn't as strong the hitter hitters wise. The pitchers are thinner. But so I think it will. You know moves like this will set the tone. Of all, right. We gotta get going. Yeah. One hundred percent fuck was you want to mention nature and Beltre Jim beltway retire today. I one of my favorite non Yankees in baseball. Not like of all time. But like, you know, the last ten years whatever like he was I love the shit. He did you know, he wouldn't he wouldn't let people touch his head anytime. Andres would call him off for a fly ball. He just stare the fuck out of down. You kidding me? He throws people. The do just like had a ton of fun. The he had a he was really good. He's a surefire hall Famer things. First ballot three thousand hits just shy of five hundred runs. One hundred RBI one of the best third defensive their baseman ever the best play twenty one seasons never won a World Series. But he was in one. I someone brought up the angels. He wanted to play for the with the ranger. He wanted to play for the angels. And they wouldn't give him ninety six million dollars for like five years. Oh, yeah. Never ended up playing for the ain't. No. But he wanted to play there. And the angels said, no. So they ended up giving Hamilton all his money and pools like all his money and Belcher is by far the more predominant Bill trail until the end was productive to seventy three fifteen sixty five seventy eight thirty nine season baseball and. To seventy three like, I would've loved that. On the this year, just a solid hitter. Oh, yeah. I I I don't know for some reason I always remember that forty eight home run season with the dodgers is always sticks out my one Twenty-one hit three three that was like the I remember really hearing about Adrian bell trae bonds. Okay. Because you're forty to forty near before that two seven and for don't remember peace ball, really by remember that forty-eight home or near be like, oh, so you didn't Volterra. Guy. What did bonds to win it? Let's see. This is the oh one throw four was like ridiculous streak. They could be p of six forty every year for bonds was three sixty two with a what? Oh, my that's gotta be wrong. He had a six oh nine. He's like consistently ever was six six nine on base percentage commercials over three eight one of the things I do when I'm bored is I look at Barry Bonds o-on throw four stats his on base percentage. One of four is five fifteen five eighty two five twenty nine six oh nine people for years to stretch four years where you get on base more often than you don't. Sade hit her nine home runs in this four years. Crazy, sucks sucks rebel trae. But no, I there was a story of when he was at Seattle for like a Cup of coffee used there for couple of years like four or five. Felix Hernandez got word that whatever Belcher when the shit. He liked to just like the entire Betham. It'd be like silent. And let just have peace and quiet and anytime feel when he was there. He would go in the stall next to start talking pissed. I love peace and quiet when I think most people are like why would hear my roommates in college talking outside the room? I'd run the sink the whole time to cycle like drown them out. And have like the white noise of just running water. And they are you running the sink the whole that's hilarious. What team do you most remember him? What I think Texas. I guess Seattle. Dodgers wasn't paying attention to the base. Right. I wonder who go in the hall of fame. I guess think he wasn't the World Series arranger. I mean, it was more the tail and, but yeah, no. I guess ranger. I think I think you definitely ranger. Yeah. I think yeah. I know just hit the most hits in a season as arranger eight years at three hundred seven with the daughters five with Seattle. It's rare to have guy his caliber spend at least five years with three different teams. Yeah. Boston will always regret. That's one of the Red Sox fans like bigger grits letting beltway walk from that twenty Eason. But yeah, I think he's I bow. Hall of Famer played the game hit you'll you'll hear today on like, everyone the talks about it the same sentence like just play the game that you you know, that you hoped everyone else would like just had fun and play clean, even though. I think Doug Gottlieb once accused him of doing steroids because he's from the Dominican helix. Doug Gottlieb, but still. Credit card number forget. So so all the credit cards. Yeah. But played instead IRA to and never got caught with anything. I think that's. Yeah. Never did. Obviously, shadow L agent BELTRAN always wish you were Yankee flick a little bit at some point. But never happen. But for sure fire hall of Famer the Paxton scourge in it may be on his way, Bryce Harper. Maybe do this has been a little trade special offseason edition of the short Lee will see you next. Into a coast company gets in last week. In listen to having kicked in these one. Nice diction. Nah. I gotta catch Michigan show that I'm getting with young pity cow many sins. Get the hint shit. Great. Four. If there's a God. Going down.

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Men in Blazers 08/09/19: Premier League Season Preview

Men In Blazers

21:11 min | 1 year ago

Men in Blazers 08/09/19: Premier League Season Preview

"This is rebecca low or rebecca. If you listen to sub optimal radio and you on this thing to men in blazers on the n._b._c. sports network it and this is the men in places cost off-season preview all you need to know ahead of the two thousand nineteen twenty campaign which jon ahead of us. We're going to break breakdown. The biggest changes welcome all on new friends. The new characters breakdown the three promoted teams all aching poetic beauty and all say sand lake to the season's player of the year and doubtedly yup mr maurice keen then we'll make our predictions on the top four and the bottom three. Oh one caveat yes. They say it's an audio version of our t._v. Shag which add in prime time one thirty pm on friday one admission. I also hate costs which are just audio versions of the t._v. Show but i'm going to say there's enough content in here for pretty much. All you need to know to we set up for the full season or wonder that is to come first. Proper cost of the season comes this monday. We really come white. Send us your ideas. Today's your tweets your ravens. Your hoops your fears your emotional experiences over this classic weekend on norwich and if you want to see this video davis legs may or may not feed. We'll be releasing it in chunks on twitter and instagram or we can't along so whatever team you support. Let me say this. I wish you a season of meaning of joy of making memories with your team with your family with fan base which ultimately i think is what football's will courage yes the men in blazers show wow season six raja on this the opening day of the two thousand nine hundred and twenty the premier league campaign the one day on which fans of every team can dare to dream even everton not so sure about that roger okay over the next half hour. We're going to preview this season which is catholic perched on the script. Writer scroll like an ethan and joel coen street hollywood executives desk. We'll meet new friends. Norwich aston aston villa sheffield united the percent bleeding talk which mid table team will rise to glory glory remain forced to drink from that poison chalice listen to this europa league jumpy on as and will make our top four predictions for the season ahead excuse to eat really pretty much but we want to start by talking about the big six or technically known the big five and awesome we begin with back-to-back primarily champions and lost his treble-winners matches to city team. It doesn't rebuild as much as regenerate. Yes one hundred points. Two seasons gave just ninety eight the last they keep adding to that squad splurging league-high league-high hundred nine hundred million dollars from portugal. You have a plan considered. One of the best right backs in the world show can sell from you. Venter's who pushed karate kicking kyle walker for spain welcome big unit rhodri <hes> the best road since strickland angelina who four years ago. We're starting online for 'em n._y._c. A._f._c. wherein the number sixty nine and is now suiting up for city proper dream big kid stream bank those three join a team that already has more elite footballers woah than lil mouse x. has old road remixes. They're all the silva's manado and dabbled sergio guero and who could forget razz and don't sleep on phil foden who pep guardiola just held as the most talented plan he's ever seen which came across as less praise and more widely time long no messy sub tweet but for me the key to the city season having katie fresh rested hard to pinpoint a weakness in this city squad sunday they defeated liverpool on penalties to hoist the community munc- shield off the big room but we have dug deep and found what may be their achilles heel look a dinosaur. This arose posted this video himself tinkling the ivories and displays field development. It must be said when it comes to playing rows. You're just a poor man's alexis sanchez. I'm chas ben folds five but johnstone's about naming looks like a dinosaur okay now push city to the limit last year finishing second in the primarily despite losing just once all season and they only won the body champions league raj liverpool football club last season ended with the whole team on the lash and that king of various jurgen klopp. He's had to play down a poor run of pre season results as a mere hangover his liverpool squad no major new signings despite the fact all their rivals has strengthened and they're saying fit for evil little run down after an exhausting break spent on african nations in copa apor america judy big question for liverpool this season david walk now the european champions then longest charming swashbuckling underdogs can they adapt to victory being expected. <hes> liverpool's titles lose okay raj onto a club that finished third season and won the europa league under now departed italian visiting professor maurizio saudi saudi speak of course about my beloved chelsea football club roach. It's a team that the whole of america will be watching thanks to the acquisition of christian pulisic nick from borussia dortmund and the whole world will be watching because of new manager club legend frank lampard and by club legend jimmy and why c._f._c. yes frank's franks ascension to the premier league manager say massive moment for m._l._s. right okay. It's not going to be easy for him with the inability to you know make new signings because if a transfer play the babies and play the american raj christian pulisic pennsylvania <unk> no. He's going to be one of the players who must shoulder that challenge. It's amazing amazing singer minute chelsea get raj. He looks like a kid who just got to chelsea. Kipah christmas and it's been sleeping in every night since trying it on gold. Speak kristie in the absence of his art never meant to be a replacement for but the belgians defection coincided with his arrival h- it means he's going to be perceived such that coupled with the size of his transfer fee the seventy three point one million big ones means the american will take the field with an enormous weight of expectation. The stakes are huge for how american tell them will be evaluated for years to come in the eyes of premier league scouts or we can say courage. Christie chelsea opened up by traveling to old trafford sunday at eleven thirty a._m. Eastern eastern time on n._b._c. s._m. What a w that would be and that is a perfect segue into last year's sixth place finishes manchester united back in december with the club in turmoil united lighted fired josie marino for driving insufferable and gave the wheel to club legend ali gun associate the norwegian led the club to at the 'fridgerator s. twelve game undefeated in the league but after fan ship toe lay into the job permanently they probably wilted winning just twice in ten games meaning they champions league night for the right half of manchester yes to this show yeah but there are some young new faces this season twenty one year old daniel james's tarik cohen fast iron saka unlike any united in recent new arrival united fan as a kid these actually excellence at football and harry maguire hundred and thirty five million dollars mixed expensive defender ever actually worth it when you calculate how that breaks down the square footage on his head allowed they did manage to get a report in one thousand nine million dollars from inter milan for we'll ramalu lukaku but one has to there are players who united fans would have liked to see gun before big rahm dot com alexa sanchez unless a footballer women and flushable flew another man who is still at the club pull lucille polka a player who's enthusiasm for united appears to be at j._c. Woodstock with me. Levels k. rods now to a team that have actually actually undergone massive change from last season by massive change. I mean they actually signed a player. We're talking about defending fourth place trophy when his new stadium builders and champions league runners-up something ham hotspur. Yes signed big boy player four them eight transfer windows. He's worth potential soaked. Englishman ryan sesson yawn and real zoology midfielder giovanni lo celso came in on transfer deadline day before them young midfield powerhouse dongguan dome belay and leon for a club record sixty five million and the kicked off the signing spree young leeds winger jack clark who because he was essentially taught them his first signing since social media would ever been invented if forced tottenham's communications team to learn how to make twitter video announcements this last time spurs signed. The warm body was back in the days. We just let the world know by fax pages rounding out a preview of the big six ever turn learn no. I didn't say big eleven arsenal finished fifth loss season and came runner up in the europa league on that unforgettable night in baku for people who we live in baku absolutely narrowly missing out on champions league football on both fronts under first year manager brunei emory lessees emory received the free pass a squat inherited a year of adjustment not this campaign ostlund spend one hundred seventy three million dollars over the summer most thrillingly a club record eighteen nine million on the potent twenty four year old ivorian nicholas pepe stick him in alongside handshake meisters obama yongan lack and you got the nipple tingling prospect of a front three three that scored seventy three goals combined season but squads are delicate creatures roger and arsenal have long been defensively more than brittle but they've addressed that i seriously with olive man boy cairn tierney from celtic and if the tough tackling scottish international doesn't stop them legitimate defense they're hoping opposing strikers because we'll be put off by comedy bits from david louise whom they signed from chelsea on transfer deadline day child avid hose. He's known on this show david l. o. Ell's how many people think let me strength to my inconsistent flimsy defensive line by adding daffyd louise but have come to believe american owner stan kroenke. He doesn't care at all about also staff light to him about which team owns. He's like what team do i own again in in britain a the <hes> manchester caesar what position away and we win we want good good this segment concerns at three new premier premier league friends who earn promotion from the championship last season we start with the pride of norfolk a team out there in the eastern angriest part of agricultural britain noord city. I love norwich are fined sixty settlements rural beauty. This isolated culturally fashionable town is famed for its overstock eddyville. Cathedrals brewing must've production mustard and a lovable yoyo team. You've been relegated from the premier league join record four times yeah over the all season they've refashioned themselves under a young german manager daniel falker who's remade the culture of the club importing plethora of his fellow countrymen too few tactical toco riga where the young british optimism british optimism since i left is that a thing nineteen year old phanom max erin thinks the club is now achieved the impossible muscle not only gaining promotion to the premier league but making the team and the city somehow a pale bastion as offensive term blurs park life life into a new club anthem faulk life serenading their team with joyous line all those germans so many germans. That's song is everywhere. They go to the team that finished second in the championship season like no other will participate in just their fourth ever premiership season and their first in in twelve years but they're a proud northern club with a great tradition sheffield united from the steel city that was once an industrial powerhouse until manufacturing my shattered shots in the one thousand nine hundred eighty s the club like the city is largely struggled in recent years and was languishing amidst the grim third tier as recently as two thousand seventeen until a childhood oil hood united phantom player turn master motivational manager chris wilder return to channel the passion. That's never left the club. I'm propelled the team to glory his captain. Thirty-three-year-old strike billy sharp another childhood united fan who calls himself just stop fat lod from sheffield and the two of them have against all odds propelled united's return to the top flight making it perhaps the most romantic local story to light at the premier league in its history wow and finally the team that came up via via the championship playoffs. It's the return of an old friend raj coming to you hang from bob good in the midlands england second biggest city aston villa aw sea america org prefigures and campaign worked just about two seasons too late the villa back a club whose chaotic decline was righted by another lifelong phantom manager dean smith. His family must have been huge u._n._c. Hoops funds right anyway. One of his assistant coaches is john terry heard of him dave yeah you used to be a big fan chopped in lead leg and he and smith of homeless the talent of a one generation local stall and my hat twin jet greely who captains a club health season tickets for from the age of four aston villa bat light peaky blinders carrying the hopes of super fans prince william and tom thanks with them where they belong to the top flight godspeed. Now your visits to all three of those teams will be chronicled in your promoted series which will air on n._b._c. On sunday september fifteenth on sunday september twenty nine okay raj. We love our new friends but we would be remiss not to pay tribute to some of those who r._s._v._p. No so so this is premier league policy wrath benitez of course deposit newcastle to manage in the chinese super league wonder what prompted that raj yes the premier league goes take it away the primarily gods giveth after rafter announced his departure from tyneside we receive word the man who single-handedly got through the first few seasons steve bruce. He's being joined on tyneside by former west. Ham striker andy carroll who returns to his childhood club bruce carroll the primarily dancer supply with a short chaser food and dragged okay. We talked about the big six. We've met all of our new friends. Now we want to turn our attention to teams that could shake up the primarily preordained order and make the leap from mid table mediocrity into the upper echelon along the philadelphia union. Maybe next year roger. I was thinking more along the lines of declan ricefield west ham that guy danny wofford recently assume gary k hills crystal palace all the premier league's portuguese diaspora and lost surprise bag wolverhampton wonders which team do you think we'll have a sustained assault on the top floor roger how would have said walls but that forward progress will be stymied by the europa league stumbling block fool's gold for any truly aspirational club leicester city funds though should be quite buzzing one of the most exciting young squats in the premier league featuring a glut of under twenty five hundred news including newly leap permanently signed your retailers and handsome james madison fuse the experience of kasper schmeichel and the alcohol imperviousness of jamie vardi <music> throw in the humble mothers leadership abroad. No delusions of grandma can make the case expectations in all they whites. Gaffe should should be skull and talking about hi raj. I noticed that for once you did not mention the words ever and ton in a sentence about teams poised to have a season of glory before a ball has even been kicked gibbs. I've learned my lesson about being hyperbolic him up prediction with the arrival of nineteen year old italian italian for no moisture and ninety seven percent show everton. They're gonna win this season's league title of the cancer and we're whoa beast team now. I'm going to keep it all to myself that because the last time i felt this great about everton season ahead winded lifting into the final game managed by sam allardyce so even where marveling at the new images released last week of everton's new six hundred eight million dollar stadium which opened in twenty twenty three it looks like a fortress in game of thrones dave. Even my first thought was this. I'm gonna see everton lifted trophy and that building in my life telling it's possible roger but only if another team and up ground sharing with everton cheer up the roads that point like our entire show up to this juncture has been speculation but to see what will really happen this season. We wanna turn to science ants by science. We mean pie. I we're going to take it by an predict which three teams will be relegated. What is your telling you rock. Hello pie talking road road but the button free or go to a place what black is a color known as a number of the season. We'll pay newcastle united despite the andre yet lynn having a player the season season crystal palace an old yeller of a campaign for roy hodgson and sheffield united the were sheffield since gary crystal still palace rod we only have one should have been going down and that is sheffield united sorry blades fans i also see brighton and hove albion after they sell the world's number one striker glen murray to manchester city january transfer window and finally i'm sorry fishwick burnley. They may take your premier league status but they'll never take away minivans okay roach the other end of the pie the part that will help you predict the top for <hes>. Don't lie day remember. This meat failed baked. Good sissy going back to back to back in second place huge shock mostly to spurs funds. It's telling them hotspur third plucky underdog champions the winners liverpool unenforced propel by the brunch the minute zego is this big as his prostate. It's the the city trying to win a europe police place. That's where the cool kids are gonna spy this season. That's the battle to walk well well. My pie brought must be from a separate batch. Let's call it the same gene batch. I'm getting a radically different truth in reverse order in fourth place chelsea football club in third place man united return to the top four in second second place. I gotta say i think it's going to be manchester. City rods that means this seasons primarily champions will be none other than livable football club above all the talk. This is the season you gotta walk the walk liverpool. It's your title to lose and if you thought clubs celebrations big last year this year's are going to approach u. S. women's national team level and yes even alexandra veteran meets the founder never not training mantles big pie possibly okay we know we said that was science but let's put bill nye and his friends aside for a second because today is the first day of the season glorious day these solar calendar year on which facts and data i mean absolutely nothing the dole in of a new premier league season this is really the first eight back in school everyone if we want turning up with a new cuts and that freshly bleach teeth for funds excitement levels to eleven for one day one day the only a share dreams of glory remain intact undented we can ignore the factor team selling that injury prone goal stuff strike convince ourselves. Just kinda resemble the form of better days and slap thirty goals. We look at long in the tooth defend nausea journeyman in yemen. You've played sparingly over the last few seasons but there's an established international who's won the league wealty weekend with us and we can persuade ourselves at the squad. We build its lovable. Book glaringly imbalanced hit will lost long bitten doth raqi cavalry charge as we approach approach. That's three hundred eighty games shine so brightly ahead of us over the next two hundred and eighty two days. Let's raise a gloss to make believe steve and magical thinking strike. Let cognitive dissonance rain once spore into the breach. Stay friends once more. There's only one thing to do for the first time this season. Let's turn out the lights. We should be careful of each other. We should be kind while there's still time.

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Moving Forward Instead of Moving On

The goop Podcast

52:19 min | 6 months ago

Moving Forward Instead of Moving On

"Hi, I'm Elise Lynn Co host with Gwyneth of the podcast. Today's guest is Nora mcnerney. Before we get to my conversation with Nora. I WANNA. Give a quick. Shout out to our friends at Dr Sheffield. Who helped make today's episode possible. Yes, we know brushing. Our teeth is important, even though my kids don't quite believe me yet, it matters what kind of toothbrush you have, and it really matters what kind of toothpaste you're using. Dr Sheffield vented and started making toothpastes in the eighteen seventies. He was the first one to put it in a tube. Today Dr Sheffield Certified Natural Toothpaste SOS free and made without harmful bleaching, agents, fluoride or artificial preservatives it's. It's also certified by the Natural Products Association, but that doesn't mean you have to sacrifice taste texture. Their toothpaste comes in eight different flavors, including ones for kids like strawberry banana, mixed berry chocolate. I'm learning with my boys. The toothpaste flavor is a major selling point to learn more about Dr Sheffield certified natural toothpaste had to Dr Sheffield's naturals dot. com is also available at any major retailer like CVs and Walgreens. Don't hold anything too tightly. Just wish for. Want it. Let it come from the intention of real truth for you and then let it go. The Mayo soul is like it's unbound. It's limitless, but we will use words to limit ourselves when people stop believing that somebody's got your back, or Superman's coming. We turn to ourselves and that's where you become empowered. Courageous participation attracts positive earnings. I'M GONNA paltrow. This is the Goop podcast bringing together thought leaders, culture, changers, creatives, founders, and CEOS scientists, doctors, healers, and seekers here to start conversations, because simply asking questions and listening has the power to change the way we see the world. Today is no exception. A letter lease. Fill you in on her extraordinary guest. All right over to elise. Nor. mcnerney is the host of the podcast terrible. Thanks for asking and she's also the author of a series of memoirs. It's okay to laugh and no happy endings most recently. She published the hot young. Widows Club in association with Ted. If you missed her incredible Ted talk, it's worth a listen as she explores how uncomfortable we are as a society with the grieving process and Nora as expert in grief, nor miscarried her second child lost her father to cancer, and then her husband to cancer all in the span of six weeks. Her late husband Erin was only thirty five when he died. Her grief, and the processing of it became the subject of her life. She started a support group called the hot young Widows Club and started writing, and thank God because she a necessary and often hilarious voice in the hard stuff of life. On today's episode talks honestly about death, and the messy and confusing feelings of grief how there's an expectation that if you have moments of joy, that must mean, you aren't sad anymore. Society often tells us that we will or should get over things, but the reality is that we learn how to move forward with them. Not Forget them Nora is a living testament to that. And the course of our conversation, nor it made me laugh a lot, and of course she made me cry above all she reminds all of us that are emotions are never tidy, and that sometimes the Messi -ness of them is what makes life most beautiful. I also WANNA add that. We recorded this episode by phone during Cova days after Nora moved her family from Minneapolis to Phoenix. It was right before the murder of George Boyd nor has a lot to say about that on her instagram. Nora Borealis I highly recommend you follow her there. If you do not allow somebody to. Truly to grieve and mourn the fact that they are missing milestones or missing human contact. They are missing just the stuff of life. Then you aren't negating the value of life itself. Because life is not just the beginning in the end, it is all these tiny things in the middle. All Nora take it from here. My brother as you know my brother, and his a member of the hot young Widows Club. Thank you for setting that up. But he was saying to sort of in the context of cove, and maybe you as it even had a conversation about it where he's like. It's really hard to get stirred about this. When you've just already kind of bent through the worst thing that could possibly happen. Yeah, it's it in a lot of ways. It feels like if you've experienced trauma or traumatic loss or even just regular, plain, plain, old grief, just the regular flavor of it. It does feel a little bit like retreading familiar territory. Even though we haven't done this specific thing before we've felt this uncertain, we've felt this sad. We felt this helpless and out of Control and useless. Because if you've watched some anew, love die, and you are as useless as I am. Which I as as my husband dying of brain cancer I was like I. Think when you dial, be a nurse. And he said you would be terrible nurse. Who you wants threw up when I was getting a blood draw, and I was like I was pregnant, and also I could see her poking through your skinny little body tried. It was disgusting. Okay, Let. Me I just wouldn't do gross stuff. Okay I would. Just Minister unto the sick in Gentle, non bloody as God. Dude, give me a break, but if you've if you've seen someone, you love really struggle and been able to do nothing about it. That's what this feels like. And so in a lot of ways people in heightening widows. Club people have just been through something. Awful are like Oh yeah. As as as a control and sort of spinning through space as you feel welcome, this is this is how it feels. This is how it feels to struggle and to suffer, and now sort of one's here, but a lot of people had been here for a long time. There will never be anything but this. This is the only thing I will ever feel I will I will never not be bone crushingly sad about this thing I will never be able to just take a deep breath and enjoy life. Nothing will ever make me feel okay again, and then it does, and it happened so slowly. You don't even realize it and man. And, that's what I really want to talk about. Because I think that complexity that is, so you you? We've through it obvious you express it so beautifully in both of your books and no happy endings. I loved this part because it's so. I mean there there. You make this point various moments in the book so beautifully, but it was this paragraph for you say I couldn't talk about my happiness without touching the uncomfortable truth that everything I have now is built on everything I lost that I wouldn't have this book. My last book a Podcast, this baby, my man and this big blended family, if I hadn't I loss Erin, and my dad and not second baby, yeah. Boom boom and I. It's strange because I think that the happiest days of my life to date were the my days with Aaron after he was diagnosed. because. We knew that things were going to be abbreviated. We didn't know how we were foolishly optimistic, but also we both had google. We Google that we knew three to five years was the average. If you have globalist Oma and we were so dedicated to pretending otherwise for each other, and with each other, we sat in his oncologist office. That I big meeting and we're like okay. First things I never give US A. And this is this a little bit grey's anatomy speak? We don't want like a a prognosis. We don't WanNa hear Oh. You have X. amount to live. We just want to be able to live, and that is what we did. And it felt so uncomplicated, which is so strange to say, but it felt uncomplicated because we had each other, and we that was the most important thing, and then we had Ralph our son together. And this little unit of ours was the most important thing, and then I lost Aaron and I. I lost our second pregnancy. which is you know my last chance at giving Ralph? But I thought that was my last chance at giving Ralph a sibling and. When I met Matthew. It felt like happiness could never be uncomplicated and it could never be. Singed with that that element of of loss and part of it was, it did feel like you know ill-gotten gains. It felt like something. I stole off the back of a truck La Ken you. Are you allowed to be happy, can I? Can I stand here and say look at this beautiful life I have and not acknowledged that that it came from a loss and. And you can, it's just that. I had this sense that. It! An. I don't know if this is just the way that I was sort of. What what messages about happiness that I absorbed that? Let me believe that it was all transactional that if I felt happy like what had I traded for it had I you know. Had I taken my my my husband Aaron and traded him in been like okay. Well, he will die and I will I will take this this new husband and I will. Oh, he comes with two kids. That's great. Okay, we'll also rescued. oops I'm pregnant will have that baby and look now. We need a minivan. That's not how it happened, but I could not. I. The worst part of me is. Is this feeling that I. That I didn't deserve it and. And that I had in some way gotten a better deal than I deserved. Because Aaron died like he died, he didn't get shit. Okay, look he. He lost a big time and I live without him, but I'm still alive and a part of me. It's still believed that life should be fair. It should be fair, and if anyone out of the two of us, should I bring cancer, it should be the person who is known to get into verbal altercations in the target parking lot. Not The person was. Easily F- you know are not GonNa Return that cart. Okay, all right. That's a choice. Honestly do that mostly at Costco because that's where the biggest defenders are, but. My happy place. Oh my God. I Love I. Love Deals I love Bulk. Nothing makes me feel safer than four four boxes of cheerios together. I every day I'm like. Do you think that this is the day I can go back to? Costco and my husband's like just go. I don't talk about Costco Anymore. It's interesting that you say transactional I also think that there this. This idea were so binary right and so there's this idea that you can't concurrently have emotions or that things must be. It's like here's my happy phase. Now. Here's my side now I'm GonNa get over, and I loved your Ted. Talk, about this I'm going to get over my dead husband and like compartmentalize that and that's in the past but that. were. Continual Wash and when Peter, my, you know, my brothers, husband died when we got back to New York because he died in San Francisco suddenly, and we flew to New York the next day we went to be with friends they're they're good friends. And it was like the it was such a roller coaster as I'm sure you can imagine. It was like we were laughing hysterically and then. Then people were sobbing. And then you're just moving through at all simultaneously in a way that is never tidy, and we like to pretend like emotions are tidying that there are maybe four of them when in reality like you can be feeling eight thousand things at the same time, and we're really bad at parsing that or allowing it allowing it without judgment of ourselves, and each other and. So I thought like this passage to sorry, I'm just going to read your mouth to. There was a version of me. That thought loving. Another person would somehow diminish the love I still felt for Erin version of me. That thought that if I was happy, I must not be sad anymore. And if I wasn't sat at any more than I guess I didn't love Aaron as much as I said I did, and like so much of that right like that, don't even posturing that this sort of protection of meaning that we feel like we need to do for ourselves and for other people. It's a performance. It is a performance and we all WanNa. Get we all WANNA get. Get a good review at it, and what is a good grief over look like yeah I could not tell you have not seen one. What does a good widow? Look like I assumed that I should be. I guess sad forever but I. Really Elise. I didn't want anyone's pity, and I was getting so much of it then I decided real quick. That was unpalatable for me that that I could not handle people's pity, so I would give them whatever version of me would just make them treat me like a like a person, and so I had maybe two or three friends who I could be absolutely honest with, but the vast majority of people in my life including. Many good friends including much of my family I. I was honestly I never considered myself an actress, but maybe I should try it because it turns out. All believed me, and they were like Norris doing amazing. Have you seen her? Also somebody said you will get. You'll get over this and you'll move on. And that's that's seems sudden, and then also yet. Another person told me don't worry great. You're still pretty. Wow, so you'll find someone else. I was like right here like. Is it you or what are we is this? I also could not read. Could not read male attention at all by the way I thought literally, everyone was in love with me after Aaron. Die But. The point that was that I just had never seen somebody grieve and I didn't know the depth of grief. I did not know how physical grief was I. Didn't know that I was having I mean I. Knew I was having Migraines. I knew I couldn't sleep I. Knew I was extremely erotic, extremely angry, also then in complete. Denial which I also would have said that. At least that's crazy I won't deny. My husband's dead. I was there but I was also. I was living in a way that was not accepting the loss. which was this performance of I? Get up every day. I! Put on. If I'm good to see somebody I will put on make up. I will wear an outfit like wow I mean. Her husband just died. Look at her. What a Babe I will write a book I will I will do I will do, and I will be the first person who makes it through grief without being too sad, because I was also under the impression that after. After a year, it would expire and just go away like software. I hadn't decided to re up and I would be genius. People would be like. How did you get through it now say Oh, well, so you just don't feel anything for one year and then it expires, and you've missed it. You've missed grief. You just forgot to get on the train and it sped by you, and that was the exact opposite. Grief was in my body. It was splitting my head open with these terrible MIGRAINES I. Had terrible stomach problems. I could not turn my head left or right, because my muscles were so tight I was clenching my jaw. I didn't realize that that was grief and I also nobody had mentioned to me and by nobody I mean nobody that I was listening to had said to me that I was grieving when Aaron was diagnosed that really migrants had begun like it had begun the day we found out that he had globalist Oma and that you know it was it was. It was a losing battle that we were fighting. It didn't just switch on the moment. He stopped breathing and it didn't switch off after we add that funeral. no absolutely and it's it's has to be reckon with I. Didn't Instagram live this weekend with Laura Day. He's an incredible intuitive, which also a medium although she likes to. Travel is that part of her skillset? And she told the story which I thought was so beautiful, so she has since she was born, seemed dead people, and she attributed it to a ton of trauma, and just something being wrong with her brain that she's able to perceive them like most intuitive. She thinks that we all have the capacity to some extent. And so her mom suicide added when Laura was fourteen, and then as an adult, both of her, her her brother, and sister both suicide as well, and she was incredibly close to her mother was. It happened two days after her birthday she was. Totally devastated and all she wanted was to see her mother. She was seeing DP as she called. I'm dead people, but not her mother and just felt so. So. You know extra trade. And and law, and you know abandoned. And she said that five years later she was with her. What would become the man who would become her first husband? And they were driving across the country and sort of an RV equivalent, and she was really happy, and she looked over at him, and her mother was there and she was like mom, you know. Where have you been like? I have been desperate for you and she was like I. I knew I couldn't come to you and tell you had grieved. And I thought that was it just made me cry thought it was so beautiful and so true, because I think you have to grapple with it right. You have to wrestle it sort of the ground. It doesn't mean that you admonish. It doesn't go away, but you have to. You have to do it. It has to happen before you can learn how to live with it and sustainable way and I don't know I. Just thought that was so stunning, and like you was imperceptible to her that she had managed to get to a place where she could then reengaged with her dead mother without clinging to her. So. It's not. It's so beautiful, so I believe in that stuff majorly, and I had this dream the other night I so rarely get to dream about Aaron or Dad who died right around the same time as each other and right before Aaron died I dreamed of my father, who was always doing a crossword puzzle in front of us like he he had hearing troubles, but also he just was very overwhelmed by all of his children together, and that was that was he just like to be of the group, but not in the group and. We were up at a cabin, which also never came as a child because he was like. I spent enough time in the wild in Vietnam. I don't really need to recreationally and really good points are. We'll go along with her mom and he was out on a the screened in porch, and none of us could get his attention, and there's Dad. There's dead. And he had already died at this point and Erin was still alive, and Kickin walked up to the screen in Porch, tapped on the screen, and my dad waived him in and Aaron Windonw and Up and I remember thinking like looking over there, and when I woke up and being like you're going to be okay. My Dad died I on purpose want to get the attention into to like guide you in and there and I every time I visited or every time I've had a dream of Erin has felt like a visit, and for a long time out dream of him and I couldn't get to him. He would be at a party. Party and people be accused there, and I would see him across the way making people laugh, being tall, being funny, and as soon as I got to worry, was he would disappear and two nights ago I, dreamed of him, and he was, he was back like he was alive, and he was in the hospital, and I rushed there and I was like. Why didn't you tell me? Why didn't you tell me you? Were here I I got married? I was like Oh shit and. And he hugged me. I got to like smell him I got to. Feel him, and then we went around Minneapolis and we. We went to places. We liked and I was like you have to meet. You to meet my family and here's like all I know them, and you did a really good job Norne and the called me Narnia chronicles of Narnia I've never had a nickname when I met him. Nora's not a nickname mobile name and he has like. Up. And nor was, and he said that like you said you did a good job. You did a really good job. And I woke up yesterday, and I felt so good, like I looked at my whole family was like I did do a good job and he wasn't I thought he'd be mad at me. I was like Oh shit I got married. I didn't know you were running back all awkward. And that also that plays into that same insecurity we're talking about which is like well. Who would you choose and yeah? It wasn't a choice and it never will be. The never welby. Don't you think he probably sent you? Matthew I a hundred percent think he's sent me Matthew. Matthew and Aaron are so different. And so sweet, and so there there's so much similarity in the way that they love people, but Aaron was a one man party, but not an obnoxious way, if you. If you showed up and you didn't know anybody, he would bring you in. You suddenly feel comfortable and I've I've never. I've never been comfortable in this situation. In my entire life I didn't go to a party in college. The first natives there because I had not gotten an invitation from the homeowner. Party. Watched legally blonde, which was the only dvd owned, and I really thought college is just going to be watching. DVD's with your friends. I was disappointed and Matthew is so shy. He is a human turtle. And yet the two of them. They they were in like concentric circles in Minneapolis at the same time, so one of errands favourite bands is. Comprised of I realized that somebody on twitter taught me. That's not how you say it so comprises who cares one of areas. That, I've obviously never heard of and he was like Oh. Do you like Cadillac blindside and I was like. Yes I will do that when I get home. That's Matthews friends so all these shows that Aaron was at Matthew as they're like. Aaron loved all these bands that Matthew was like adjacent you or like the he would also play at these shows in Minneapolis and I met. I met Matthew because of my friend Mo Co. founder of the High Young, Widows Club and we're having one of those. Did you want to hear the story? I don't know I'm just telling you this holster I love PAG. Listen to tell any story. Please I think that Aaron. Did Send Me Matthew and through. Mo- Mohan I would have never become friends in a million years. We did not frequent the same circles. She looks like Jon Bon Jovi. In the eighties, Super Hot I look. Like. Like I could be a land's end model if given the chance. Aaron was a huge fan fan of most husband Andy who is in abandoned Minneapolis and Andy suicide did and I he was missing and I came home from work because I was still working up until the very end with Aaron and Aaron was crying in bed and I thought Oh God, what happened and he was so sad because Andy Richardson was missing, and Andy has a kid, and he has a wife and. Aaron was sad for this man, but he was really thinking I think looking back like Oh God. This is what Noren will Ralph will go through. And so when we when everybody found out that Andy was dead. There is a fundraiser. Erin wanted to put a bunch of money in it, and as we don't really have any, but okay and I think you're seeing like Oh. God I hope our community comes through for Nora the way people are coming through for Mao and. I, he just had a lot of sadness about that and eventually Mo- introduced me to matthew and I was not in. It was about a year after Erin died, I was not look I did not want to date anyone ever again I didn't WanNa Fall in love. I wanted to one day. have sex with somebody possibly, but mostly. I just wanted somebody to like. Like change light bulbs, which was capable of I've been doing on my own for a forever, but can't someone else. These centipedes for me. Can't somebody else just you know? All I don't shovel anymore. and I met this guy and I was like. Oh, he's been through something like he's been through something. I don't know what it is just all these things always like they're leading us towards each other, and I don't know I now. That I look at when I look at the Sun I had with Matthew and the son I had with Aaron. It is like watching. My husband's hang out and. Ralph who had with? Erin is the entertainer. He is the leader. He you know he is. He is so funny and our baby. We call baby. He is going to be an insufferable adult meals for that. Reason and Matthew are like they're really good. Guess you know like they're gonNA audience. They're they're they're just. They loved to laugh. And an Aaron and Ralph love to entertain, and it's. It's very very cool, and so that dream did did feel like a visit felt like Aaron is And I always feel I. Do I do often feel him and I am I've made a point till it. Keep Him a part of our family too, so that we have a blended family. And is eighteen. He's from Matthews first marriage and He graduated high school again a non event, an event non event, and we removing in all this stuff and I have been after Ben After ben of Erin's clothing. His ironic t shirts from the late nineties early two thousands every every sweatshirt pair of shoes. And Yin opened. One is can I go through this and it's an yeah, actually like this is what I'm saving it for. And he picked out some of errands, favorite stuff and was like you I could wear these as like. Oh my God. 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Mary Balkam, a beautiful, beautiful, wise woman. She said to me we have a sacred responsibility to live fully in the face of our losses. Nearing it. It's a bitch though. Like Yeah. But it's true, and it's it's. It's sort of brings us full circle to this time right now, and I feel like people are understandably very scared, and and and stuck in fear right, and there's this idea almost like if you go out and engage with life or connector, touch life like you will die. And I think as we come out of this whatever it turns out to be whether it's post vaccine, or whatever happens happens, but I think that the also the lesson not like. Go Out and get Cova and overwhelmed the healthcare system, but like there is no point in living in fear and constriction. That is not not the idea the idea is like. How do we engage love and it's scary. You know as you know as a mom. When I had kids, everything changed all the stakes. Change right suddenly. It's like oh I can't. I don't I can't I. Don't want to die and leave my kids or as you start to. Attach, right love feel. Everything is sort of ratcheted up in terms of its the stakes, but that's also the that's the biggest source of joy, so it is the the cost of you. Engaging with life is loss like is an absolute certainty that you will lose at some point and. I think that. I see a lot of like This happens right. This happens in every kind of grief, which is like comparing and being like. Oh, you're sad that you can't graduate well, you know my. This person's dead and it's like yes. Those are both, but if we say that the only thing that matters about life is that it begins and ends, and those are the two biggest weight is like that that like that just at the those end points than what is the point? If you do not allow somebody to? Truly to grieve and mourn the fact that they are missing milestones, they are missing human contact. They are missing just the stuff of life. Then you aren't negating the value of life itself. Because life is not just the beginning in the end, it is all of these tiny things in the middle. It is being able to see your dad. Hold your kids. It is being able to go to the grocery store and judge the person in front of you for for for doing the extreme couponing in the express lane okay. It's. Not just the intersection of the things that we liked the things in the people that we love, but the fact that our lives intersect with so many, and I think what we have to figure out now is like what are how are the ways that we engage with life that honor the importance of all of it that are respectful to to to all people around us, and that also like foster connection and help us live fully in the face of this loss in the face of our fear in the face of something that is truly overwhelming and frightening, and it can't all be zoom calls forever. Because I am so tired of only seeing the front someone's face. True and I think that for all of us. It's it's. Acknowledging the messy and that it's never tidy, and it's never knee and we're never going to say you know you talk about this at length in the book, but we're never going to say precisely the right thing. Many of us are going to say the wrong thing, but as you say, you may be the person. He said the wrong thing, but that's better than being the one he says nothing. Nothing at all and I think it's that it's like sometimes we don't engage because we're uncomfortable. Right and I know you talk about sort of losing like people who stood up for you at your wedding. Who couldn't be there? When he died and losing? You know we just get so uncomfortable with the hard stuff in life and now and so I think we just assume that we don't. Use I I'm proud to have kept my eyes open when it would have been easier to look away and I really think that that's what's required to live fully. It's to stay engaged and to know you're gonNA. Fuck it up and make people uncomfortable, but that absent that you're. You're not really fully living now and I felt I did feel obviously extremely angry about a lot of our friend relationships and family relationships, but mostly I felt sad for them because they missed out like they really did. They missed out. It's such A. Powerful thing to be able to show up for people in their in the really hard stuff and I know in a time where I mean it is. It has never been harder physically to show up. Showing up by the way isn't. Primarily not physical plenty of people show up to a funeral and are like. Oh, I don't know checking their phones. Do doing whatever you know, the counting down the momentous until they can like. Make eye contact with you leave. It's yeah like. It has also never been easier for you to be. To Act, actually try to be emotionally present for somebody and I. Don't mean that you have to sacrifice your own wellbeing. Burn yourself down to a NUB trying to keep everybody else around you. Okay it, but you can. You can show up for the people around you who are really struggling. People have experienced loss and say I don't know what to say. And I'm so sorry. Yeah like you can do that and you can. Also, you can just say this is terrible sucks one gift that I think is always welcome. Is You know? Certainly one one common theme when someone has lost, someone is like I don't want to bring the person not because I don't want to remind them that. Their Dad died or their husband died, which is or their child died which? You're Oh, you're. There's never a moment when you're like Oh. My God I forgot like. And he died weight. But I think the thing that you can offer. People is stories and an opportunity. Yeah, an opportunity to talk and think about people who love you don't get to see and. That when Peter died the number of stories of things that he had done or ways that he had touched. People's lives are just funny drunken. HILARITY because they're not here to continue to make memories, and so there's a finite number of those in the world, and so the more you can add to someone's repository and show them of person that you might not even even seen her now I think dots the greatest get. It's like it's like these people every single person that you interact with being a little whore crux for you and and you. Like bits of versions of that person are stored in every person. They've ever met and five years later. When I get a message from somebody who I don't even know who went to high school with Aaron, and they found a picture, or they just remember a specific story, and they give that to me. What a present! Like! Yeah! A GIFT! You do not have to bring up the that the person died. We want to know. That their life mattered like you can bring up their life, and in fact, doing that is. Just the most soothing thing that you could possibly do. I want all of those stories especially in those few those first few months as ravenous I read every email. Erin head had in his in his Google inbox. Was that a violation of privacy? Probably leave, but you know what I found. I found that he kept a whole file on his computer and in g mail of that he was going to buy for me someday. I hope you bought them all for yourself bought a lot of one of them arrived after he died elise. Like, he had left a comment on this jewelers instagram way before the time and I mean this is like twenty fourteen instagram is not the same, and he was like all my wife's ring size and he had apparently like. I don't know if you've course. She figured it out and she sent it to me and it arrived on Christmas and I wear it right next to my wedding. Ring Matthew. Love the. An office he bought Taylor swift tickets with his mom's American Express right before he died, and they showed up after he died, I was like Oh got an also. We bought each other the same. Present a wes Anderson Book and they both arrived one I had ordered for him when he had ordered for me Mary Christmas now I have to use Anderson Books. I love that he's still giving to you the Maj I. Well, the other part of your book both books which are. Hilarious and I think you know you've managed to find to amazing men to love and marry which for a lot of people as A feet, a lot of my friends are struggling to find even one person that they deem worthy. Can you talk a little bit a love sort of all of the things that you say about love and what it really is how it's not born out of persistence or weed and alcohol, but like 'cause I my experience with similar to you with my husband where I was like Oh. This is just happening now. Lay I'm not persuading him. I'm not. It's just it's just done. It's just done. It's just like the act of deciding on each other, and then making Matt Choice over and over and I feel like. I I don't know what I thought. Love was, but I was I was like that little bird in. Are you my mother, but was like? Are you might boyfriend? It was like no. I'm a dirtbag. Your boyfriend I've told you that to your face and I'm like yeah, but I think that you're just like. Playing hard dig at and then an ear, and and it was so easy, and it was as annoying as all of you know as I do I. Know exactly how knowing this sounds a lease. We're like Oh. My God I just found him like he was just laying there a like a like a dollar bill on the sidewalk and I picked him up. which is kind of how it happened and yet happened when I was. Not Really. Looking and my twenty s were bruising. They were awful and I and I can't even. I was so sad and I remember walking home. From work in Minneapolis down to my apartment, I was calling my best friend Dave Gilmour and he was like you should be sad. You should tired because like. If. You were in saddened tired. I'd be so worried about you like you, you have you've had terrible experiences like what's wrong with like? What are you doing and? Aaron so uncomplicated, and he just liked me, and he was nice to me, and he did nice things for me right away, and I was like what's wrong with this guy and I remember asking him one. NATO's like so. Are you like sleeping with anyone else and he? His. He almost like fell off of his. He was like Whoa. What Only God? What did you ask that it was like? Oh because I'm supposed to ask like like I don't care, but I would obviously deeply care I like you like. We like each other like we've. He's like you're. My girlfriend has A. He's right, and there's no yeah, no totally totally like he he he operated on such a different plane than I did that that I sounded crazy to him and I think that that kind of love that kind of love let me be. Happy, let me you can't. What's not your formative again? You're not trying yeah, and and he liked things about me that I didn't even know we're likable. He liked that it was funny. Most boys did not love that there I'm the funny one, as but you never make me laugh. Okay, and he liked that I wrote he read my writing, which was bananas to be and he just liked. He liked me it was. And because of that I. Felt, after he died that I would, I would honestly have been okay I would be o k. For the rest of my life I know. He died when I was thirty one, I, do not I don't I don't I didn't think I'd had sex for the last time it was like if that's the last time I love someone. That's the last time someone loves me like that okay. Like I will not need that again because it, it filled me up and I always have that like I will always have that feeling of of like fullness in a way and I can I. Don't know I love myself as much as Aaron did on a good day and I was I was okay. Not having that again and I also felt very greedy, even wanting it like if i. if I had been like yeah, I'm ready. I WanNa Fall in love again. Like who who thinks that they they deserve that like. Like you want it after a horrible divorce. I share you can wanted after an okay divorce. I guess but like really you're going. Tell me that this was like. A life giving love you wanted again. Like how greedy can you be? And plus like most of my friends have not found even one person to marry like I don't need. I don't need to. And that's when I met Matthew and I tried to keep him at a distance, because so many reasons one if people knew that I was dating someone than they would obviously. obviously I think that I was a cold heart Ed faker, obviously Erin even like out in the everywhere would be welcome. You didn't let me it was such a terribly. Anxious time for me to feel it felt like betrayal. It felt like I was betraying my love for Aaron by feeling something for somebody else, and also I felt so safe around. Matthew and I hadn't felt like that in. Over a year you know like a about a year and I met Matthew and I didn't think that it was going to be serious intel. We went on one date. Like well Shit Crap I. I asked him about his life and he told me everything and tell nobody asked him. Nobody asks a a man about the divorce about like the betrayals that they've experienced like no one had asked him about this like it was. It was embarrassing for people involved. Nobody wanted to be the person who brought it up and I looked at him and I was like you have survived. I can't believe all you've survived. And no one had said that to him and I. Just remember looking into his big hugely dump blue is they're so big? They look like cartoon is and being like Oh crap like. Now, now together, and it's. It wasn't like this big like. Spark. It was like all it was like a reignition of something, and then he would come over on the nights the very few nights when he didn't have his children and I would just cry. Like I would just like I. Had I had a safe place to grieve, and to be sad, and and seeing him, and and it's like everything I lost with Erin became a truly obvious to me like minded, not just lose what we had. I lost the future we had feeling that that desire with Matthew also helped me feel the depth of everything that I had lost so after a almost a year, trying to avoid feeling deeply felt everything deeply felt love deeply felt lost deeply, and this man let me lay on the floor, and he played with my air and let me cry and Read Him Mary, Oliver Poems and. I mean it's like this man's coming over not for like some hot, so he's coming over for some hot tears. Took the name of the chapter we like I can't remember. It's like how to data, dad or why? Everyone should data data. Data 'cause talk about. This fantasy that we all have that we are untarnished, and we're GonNa meet someone who's untarnished and grow this light together, and that's obviously a total fallacy. We're all secondhand goods by the time we're. Eighteen, but but that like we can lean into that. There's a lot of treasure there, and you benefit from people who have experienced hard things. Yes, and if you are a person who grew up in the millennium, where like all media major drama was like about like X.'s and you. Really like dig deep into ninety s pop culture. There's a lot of like you know like what's going on with your ex. We're taught to be very jealous you know or Like as if it all can be quantified, and if you spent a little bit of your love and somebody else before like how much did you spend? And is there enough leftover FERMI and I've a lot of appreciation for everything that Matthew went through like a lot of appreciation for it and I think there's a lot to be said about building a relationship with somebody where they are not the center of your universe, and we will never. Ever be that for each other because we have kids and we've we've. We've been through it. We are not that dumb to think. I will get everything in my life from you, just you. That's all we need. Plus like a dad, any parent. Data divorced person I think I can't wreck or honestly a widow very also very good, because they've been through something and you need somebody who has like one processed it in a healthy way. It's a if they're up front about everything that they've been through like. That is something that you grow from. That is place that you like both you know. Step off from together and. Like because of everything that Matthew went through, he's not like people are always so considering. Is he threatened by air and I'm like? Yeah, he's very straight, threatened by like a tall, skinny dead band. You know he's just. If Aaron were here, they'd have the weakest little boy fight. You would ever see me. So much glaring now it's like he loves Erin like an end he loves me. I'm in errands MOMS neighbor's house, and today Matthew came over to errands, mom's house and they hug and Ahrends, mom and Matthews mom and my mom are all friends and. Sometimes they have lunch and they don't invite me. We're all a part of the same thing and. I really love it. That is not something I would have imagined. No little girl like is is laying in her. No little thirteen year olds laying in bed, being so I, meet someone, then Hilt Hillsdaie then I'll meet someone who's divorce, and I'll get to be like a step, and then it's like it. 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Ep 2.52: City skates, NLDD & weekend preview + bubble talk with Philly's Matt Freese

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Ep 2.52: City skates, NLDD & weekend preview + bubble talk with Philly's Matt Freese

"Boom. What's up everybody? Welcome back to Sam's Army's episode. Two Point Fifty two and we've got all sorts of good stuff to talk about including rap reactions to the man city situation. And all the ridiculousness that comes from that fallout in the northland and Dangling Darby from this past weekend and there's a lot of games on deck. We'll follow that all up with some bubble. Talk With The Philadelphia Union's Matt Freeze. Great Guy even though he's a goalkeeper. And then yeah, so great episode, but I gotTa do quick message from our sponsor, which is Fubo TV. And I'm telling you this is worth giving a shot. I was one of those cable TV dinosaurs, but experiencing how fast and easy it is to watch live, TV or even DVR programs on my phone has really changed my outlook. This isn't like NBC Gold Best Access all access me. Where were you know you're seeing a very small slice TV? This basically everything on TV at your fingertips most importantly, they have a ton of soccer, which is why I would look for it. In the first place includes NBC Sports Premier League crucially beings, or it's for Lalita by silly s cable rider wouldn't even cover it for the last couple of years. And word is that ESPN is coming soon meaning. MLS Bundesliga Syria so that will come with it so if that isn't enough. WILL TV is even cheaper than cable, so give it a shot with me. GO TO TV DOT COM for slash Sam and check it out. That is Fubo TV dot com forward slash sent, and now back to our sack all right, so we are back with our our lovely lovely co host You know people you know and love for many reasons we got. I will start with Mikey Fowler. How you doing, Mikey? not great. Could start good start. We'll get into that. We'll get into that. Was it a little bit? I can see all sad face over there. Hey, bad about it. But also joining us. The third leg of the stool is Max Brito smacks how you doing. That was that was north. London related misery correct though yeah. Everything else is great. Though for it. Tough one I'm doing very well good to be with. You guys again absolutely. This week we got a lot of games a lot of game a lot of non game events. In fact, let's start with if you if you haven't watched if you ever want like four hours a game for the last three weeks, you're not doing your job, right? This is the summer of soccer extravaganza. This has been great I. Don't know what's going to happen when you know this sort of roll. What is it I guess it will sort of start to peter out right around when Champions League starts in August. And then August. I guess September We're GONNA hit a real withdrawal period. That's believable. Don't even think about. Let's not available, okay? Yes we got a lot of games, but let's before we get to the results and the previews. Let's start with the biggest news of the week. undoubtedly the Court of Arbitration for Sport. Came down from the clouds and overturned completely overturned the two year. Ban On man cities you know under two year Champions League Dan Essentially I out to start for me I. I'm shocked. I thought I said from the very beginning. I thought it was going to be reduced to one one year, but I thought that the evidence was just. You know ironclad Granted, you know. Obviously. They got off in my opinion. They got off largely on a technicality that basically. The found that like it had been over foot five years and you. A UEFA has this five year time period were after which they can't really get. Get you for whatever reason. I can't really explain that at all, but. Let's start with either. One of you guys who who wants to take this I'm just I'm shots i. don't even know what to say really about it. He's GonNa. Say that. Yeah to your point, Sam Court of Arbitration used to it in any sport when they arbitrate their hours. Cut In half for right. Goes basically telling you know you're wrong, but we're still gonNA. Find these guys a little bit, so they're not completely wrong, but even they. They lowered that it just as you see. Two groups are so far apart in how they viewed this to your point. I mean it's pretty subjective and loose some of the wording on these rules. I mean it's. There's money being. Directed in certain ways that we have no idea where it's going and so I could be forgiven, or you can beat. You could rule with an iron fist, but see them flip over that de quickly was. Was Pretty shocking and then obviously the reaction from Guardiola who doubled down and makes you look you know like all over their face, not a good look for them, but. there's been a great to hear from all the managers this reaction they kind of stick up for each other and step Guardiola Joe's embryo sort of sticking up recap and clock obviously. Involve his team is safe, but the guys who'd have much more of an issue with this Josie. Marino out of data all these guys all saul sharp because their teams could benefit greatly if it was lasting just one year. I I find it super super, super embarrassing for UEFA I mean. How much worse of a look could you have that you continue to like? I not going to believe a thing that way for says they're going to enforce or talk about change or anything to get closer to the middle line that I. Guess People want. Really where financial fair play was birthed from, or what objective was I haven't seen any execution on any of the ideas, and it just continues to be a battering for you a foot to get hit like it's just embarrassing time after time when these sanctions come down, the arbitrators come in, and they're just completely gone. It's it's embarrassing. I mean clubs I. Find It hard to believe that clubs won't feel emboldened by this to essentially just GonNa do rules. What are you GonNa? Do Right. So, what are you going to? Manchester City will be emboldened, and they are the ones deep pockets and Gary for the rest of the primarily like what is financial, fair play GonNa do with Newcastle comes in, and they're gonNA enforce a thing. Oh boy. Does. Very. Daddy warbucks. Yeah. You wish you had an order right? Yeah, endless supply of money. That's another thing this pisses off. The people like Arsenal taught him. It doesn't piss off Abramovich as much as would. Layer, the whole nother layer. Hold of the conversation of what is F F. P? What is it trying to do whether? It's actually doing that, you know. Is it trying to? Essentially keep clubs from mutually assured destruction in just spending themselves out of into Bolivian or is it just trying to keep the smaller clubs down like there's there's a lot of conversations to be had about? What are there six guys that they want us? Keep the payroll, right. But it, but to take a step back. It seems like absolutely like. Sorry will fly right in my nose. Like absolutely. Ridiculous, for for some of the PEP to come out and say like demanded apology just absolutely. Motherfucker you wanted about. Like. The rules deal with it. Did Well I. Think. He doesn't have to deal with it. There's the disconnect there. You know it was a it was a technicality, so all the fans coming at me on Instagram, but like I'll. We're exonerated this and now you work. You got off on a technicality and by the way I'll just point this one more thing out, so the Primer League is is doing an investigation of its own. And on the same thing, and it does not have a five year window, so it's possible like it's still yeah. I know it's it's let's Jazz Hans like goose terrified. It's still possible the city could get in trouble for this and then you know not to just come down on city like so many clubs poll sort of shady financial stuff that it's you know. Just consider does it may be bad Arse bigger, ours does the unfortunately PSG got to be a little. Good segue she talk PSG in. Be The. Conversation PSG now I think about that August? She had a game this weekend in front of fans in front of. Ridiculous Sell USSL here in the US for talking about in fans I think. USSL heads fans, did they? Yeah they did. Say. It was nice to see, but. Since everyone's so far behind with bringing back in the states. What's the rush chill? Everyone else is still months if not. Six nine months Abraham, having fans in this place, it seems. What's the rush to do this week? Join you Florida and Arizona Texas like setting records and stuff yet. We should maybe pump the brakes on that. You know it was nice to see I will say that I'd yeah. Let's go to the. Let's go. Let's start with the permanently. Let's go through rundown biggest game of the weekend in arguably maybe we'll just season. was sorry about this by was. Sheffield. United Bouncing Chelsea's. Kirby Ah, you thought it was going somewhere else in. The blades one three zero. They beat Chelsea I. I know you might be were were high Chelsea coming in this. I. Had Faith in Sheffield here? It going to be a blow out the other way I really didn't I didn't think it was agreeable. In fact, I ended as a draw, which in my mind was having faith in in Sheffield. Congrats to them. It's too bad because the you know. The conversation about top five is now out the window like top five dozen matters top floor, so this Sheffield win shift in the United Win doesn't really became a little bit less important, but it's still cool to see him win. The game will move on from that is I was actually kidding. The biggest game again was the Northland Dangling Darby of course again. The North London Super Bowl. I guess I'll let you go. I'll let you take this one like he'd had a few days to ruminate on. Tottenham 's to one. I think if if after A. Lack scores that goal I think. If you put five minutes even on the clock without a goal conceded ten minutes. We're looking at it completely. The other way game flipped completely completely flipped, and then we'll also I'll say one thing we from minute one when Cain pokes off like thirty seconds in an mortgage shot off like literally twenty seconds into the game off here. We fucking go because it was going to be that today. The Games where he's should bring experience where his value should come from his age and his leadership. He completely completely changes how he plays you. Shit were stopping with her. We don't have anybody who enjoys defending out of those three. They're like. I do I just don't I just don't like cyclic socratous about guy next to crisis or some of these guys who just like love. We don't have a single player on the field when we played against. You guys with anybody who cares about that, so that's it's GonNa hurt you when you make tactical mistakes as well with that not disappointing performance not disappointed in a lot of things, except other than the back threes performance back fourth performance. So leave a better be fucking. Pablo Albany, Paolo Maldini or trouble. Genuinely genuinely speaking, we don't have the funds to afford a centreback replacement and we don't have one, so that feels great, so that's it. We just can't have any Mike. You should have one. You should have one that cares at least like you said. It's going to really love it and I think that would make a big difference. Because on the song human. Goal so David. Luiz I WANNA pick on him, but there was a three times you could have had a slide tackle the lock that he was in front of media ran on site him. I go in there and he'd go around. Everett yet doesn't and that when you I wasn't prepared to say that, but when you said I want someone who loves it. It I didn't see the love right there. No, not at all and and in China. Martinez in China the burnt Leno, but the fact that those are probably the two most impressive performances are players that put in the most consistent positive performances to this club tells you all you need to know. Our goalkeepers have been our most busy at our most successful players on the field the entire. So feels great other than about it, but. not happy, not happy I know you're going to bask in the glory, but. You know it was, it was kind of I. Still wouldn't want to switch places when you. Listen I'm I'm I'm really not miserable. I'm not asking anymore. I, did I. You know as far as North London. Darby wins goes. This was like. is maybe the least satisfying of like. Me So hard it hurt. It hurt the other way of a lot. It would hurt i. mean it would have been maybe the most painful if we'd lost is I've got nothing else going for me like there is nothing else to like. Look whatever at least FA Cup. If you want to throw, throw you a silver lining. We'll get there. I'm fucking terrified scared netscape Liverpool I'm terrified of city on Saturday. Terrified, we will get there Yeah, you know just from the Tottenham perspective. It was one of those like quintessential Josie performance. It was like you know ugly workmanlike. Whatever the adjectives you want to use it was it was not pretty It was tactical. It was you know efficient. It wasn't fun I didn't really enjoy it, but hey I'm not gonNA complain for for for this week. Only I'm not GonNa Complain About Josie because we we needed that wind is to like. Stay saying deserve. There's really nothing else to look forward to for God I don't know. I don't even want to say because it's probably going to be too long for for me to. Jump out a window but yeah, we won that Game Gradstein. US were ahead of you for the time being. The along that lasts Yeah, so those are the biggest. I would say games from the weekend. You know where that leaves us in the battle for tap for the long time five. That's dead who they had a few. You know few a good good run for a few months. There the Liverpool city lacked in the top four. Obviously, Chelsea is basically locked in at this point even after the Sheffield united loss, and then you've got united and Leicester fighting for that last spots. Lester is upright now on goal differential, but I think ninety nine point. Nine nine nine percent of the world thinks united is GONNA. Take it to either one of you guys disagree. I say Lester. This week I saw. NBC Doesn't extended highlights I didn't watch this whole game. Thank goodness I watch those eleven and extent. I could not believe what I was watching. The US born with born as long lost one. I. Twelve game when they won last they. Bottom, they they've been on a point office I recently. Okay all right. They were just. They were terrible coming into. This game, and unless you're doing back, passes and goal goal goal at the end red card playing on the shoe and I was. It was just as employees I know there's no way Leicester City. States top four, especially with good teams around. That was lemon performance Negra visine horrible. And then choose going to be out for a mean like he's maybe done for the season, so like e should be he's he whack that guy. He's one of. Better players and he's GonNa. Be Dead On, and they're gonNA. Be Missing. It's huge. So unfortunately for Leicester they they had such a great season going in man. Corona! They're one of the few. There's a few teams that didn't recover well from that break. You Talk About Socio Dad being one of them unless they're being the other one and there were two teams over that now. We look at as overachievers in the first half. There's something to that. You'd have to be an interesting expose if there's definitely. Wasn't as you. See if lines up. Really? There's really guy was well. We didn't give a crap drink beer. Cares relegated. WE AIN'T GONNA go to the top for. They didn't think the season was coming back. Got a contract twenty twenty two. I, mean I we all thought that. Sheffield United is GONNA fall into that same bucket, but it's. It's almost more impressive the fact that they didn't. So the top four let's talk about the preview, so we got a lot of games coming up lot games as we were talking about. It's the summer of Soccer Extravaganza Games every single day, and in fact, four England, we have a game. Basically one game stands out for the next safe for stable future. We'll do say five so the first one coming on Wednesday arsenal hosting Liverpool that's. Pretty big for one of those teams anyway. Lester leading won. The champions. Leicester Host Sheffield United on Thursday another big in. this one's for you show Max. The West Ham fans. The hammers are hosting wofford on Friday. That is a winner is officially safe. They're out of the relegation battle. They're you know free to to celebrate another year in the in the primarily. Do. Any of you guys have peacock, too. Did you get become? Don't want to sign anything in the end though ideally. Confused on what's going to somebody who lives with watching things on the Internet and I've really known or grip. On NBC sports. I think it is I know Wednesdays Games on peacock, but. Yeah. I might sign up anymore stuff I'd scam exhaust my fingers hurt. What the could be completely wrong on this, but I assume it's basically NBC sports gold. Except for now they're going to have. All sorts of NBC programming, not just sports. They WANNA rebranded essentially. Okay, Mikey, all access got yeah. Exactly CBS all access their their version of that. and then we got FA Cup this weekend are hosting city on Saturday and nobody's hosting anybody well right away. Does this at Wembley? Yes, yeah, okay, okay, so hers little. City on Saturday. United Chelsea on Sunday so let's start with Arsenal hosting Liverpool on Wednesday. You know obviously on paper you. Know who should? Win this game. I don't even really have a lot to save embracing for impact. I am nervous. I am very nervous as Todd Fan. Because there's just no reason to think that arsenal should get anything from this. You won't play seventy good minutes, and then it'll go. Wrong I. Mean That's my prediction. Be. sportsbook I I would bet on that right now. Good call. Even. Suffering begins, and then I'll say that line. I'll be like we looked good Intel the mistake, and then have. Here said every Goddamn Week. That'll happen. It's true it's true. You make mistakes at least. Go bigger. Go home with you and better at halftime. It'll be tied. That's my prediction. Okay. I'm just more nervous about this game that I should be I. Just I'm lower ignore. The rules got nothing to play for we might. We might even rest for Saturday. Has Been I mean. Obviously the spurs game notwithstanding they'd be. I've actually. Blake I know. Retirement is at the FA Cup I think you've got to go for the champions, a couple of small ball gophers. You gotta go for this one I know. Probably Dente. I know and it's a deep team, but you know they've been. ME. Nort's, they look at the results now. The wolves, we obviously huge. Okay that's good. Not only know win this game and I'm telling you. If, we had beaten ton of I'd be the one pound my chest like bring me the champions Gregg champions, but I was. You should have seen on Sunday after the game ended, I sat in the room. Turn the lights off. Watch three movies in Iraq obviously I. Try and watch as much as I. Have not watched enough arsenal it'll. It's all cyclical. Start out again here. They'd be resolved. I did see the wolves game. That's pretty much one sheffield away. Yeah, it was great wolves. The wolves game one of the more impressive performances all season. move on. I'm just saying I'm more nervous than than I have any right to be feel like about that. Deliver for smoking because it's a ton van. We need liberal. Actually went it when we need somebody to beat arsenal, they never do. Ever Ever okay so lester. Holt Sheffield became on Thursday. Basically Lester. We've talked about their. You know careening off the highway. You never three games three games together and they're. I mean it's possible, but. These. CENTREBACK. They need wanted one start with yeah yeah? And should feel obviously as we've talked about. You know no slouch. They just make teams look at least the the big name clubs which I don't think you include Leicester City is one of them. Yeah, but he made. These teams look awful when they play him. And you know Frank Lampard worn out. You know there's something that they take a toll. When you play, so may not be great. Tommy I duNno Sheffield United does it yet. They're promoted the promoted teams like Norwich going right back down. Hovering in Europe in villa is like basically village. Sheffield United. Coming on of nowhere can't really can't really say enough that the how greatest season it's been for the. Picking them to go down Scott McBurney. Whatever GonNa Win Great. Just for whatever reason I don't like watching. They're just so. The lines are so perfect drives me bananas. Crazy? How tactically sound there? Yeah, nobody nobody has free roam. Nobody can do. A little looseness. I'm going to the one one draw in that game by the way, I. I feel like Sheffield United. Anytime they played good team? Just normally say one one draw. Blood, and then the so Friday, this this you can take this one MAC so west ham hosting Waterford in the official you know, be free and to be safe, Darby. Who got this one? Where both West Ammon Wofford were pretty much free, as it was until the Leicester City results, so that was no minor detail that was. I I actually watched that Game Leicester City were winning and I said all right good form. It'll stay off our back wheel. WE WALK FOR NOT SLIP on through, but not now it's not the case, but you. You get some opportunities. If you're west and they've been, they've been playing good. They played really well. Michaela Tony. Similar. He's like yeah, and then he four goals last game four goals. On it to them, and that's what they're going to try. And do you use the Guy Now? It's interesting because. You have Hallier was been injured and Antonio kind of these last two games been the guy and he does. He's interviews and he's the most delightful human being. You've ever seen in your life and you wish you had a beer with them. So hopefully continues because you like to see good things happen to good people and the defense has been well, but the best part about it. They've been scoring a little bit more I. think they like West Ham. Worst case time, but I think they should they win this game They have asked to bill at the end of the season so this. This will then they have not Manchester United as well, but this would just relieve all that pressure and I think Burma through to win two games. They're gonNA. Ask to capable so I feel safe, but this is where the good teams make an impression I think West Hammer and In that vein of form right now. At Bournemouth has a tough running, they play city. They play Southampton in the play Everton. So you know ever since I'm GonNa have allowed to play for South Africa's not going to have a lot to play for Southampton's a pain. The Butt like Sheffield, united to play against drink driving a red Visi, so wrote those rent stripes. SO THERE WE GO! That's the that's the league. Let's talk at FA Cup now so we're talking about Tattenham. We won the Super Bowl red sauce, but at the same time we what we win from that like hopefully avoid saying Tottenham's Day like hopefully I'm certainly not convinced yet, but arsenal. Even though you just got your you lost your super bowl. You still could win a trophy like you. You could legitimately win a trophy, so let's start with that game. Do you have any any hope at all? Liverpool the Liverpool. Hope stems from the fact that they're on the beach. Right and the city is. They've got a lot lot lot. and. They're gearing up for their ultimate test, which is can they win? The Champions League which is ultimately with that ownership group set up to do every year, but so once that twenty point gap widened up. I'm sure everyone's brain went to one place one place only let's get the double. That's what an FA Cup win the Champions League. Those ending the League Cup already right already so now you can have a successful year regardless of Liverpool, success and the team standing in their way doesn't have a centreback. So. Couple Brahim Sterling scoring every time he touches the ball and when he falls on his ass. With the idea that that team is humming on all cylinders I'm I'm mortified and debris every time he sticks his arsenal like I've said before. It's like when drug used to look at Arsenal. It's just like I kill Arsenal and that's Brunet that within five minutes, so when the posts and you're like fuck like. It'll end with two and an assistant to goals or something. So I'm terrified I think that one is going to be really ugly one, but then again Wembley arsenal very good record. There I'm super excited. Super excited I don't care what much Saturday. Interesting, I'm more nervous. Yeah, as far as which game I think that ourselves better chance against liberal for Shia for sure for temperature. Maximum anything stand out for me to that game or the game on Sunday with United and Chelsea. I just it's. It's a fun para. Games and I just reminded last last April. I woke my family. We have five days. We went to London and we went to. Paris. It was a quick trip. We never recovered from jetlag. Lower London were there and I was so tired. My wrangles hey, call Siamese works at I tv and he was receiving little game army there 'cause others is every cup semifinal so tired of my wife to go? She should go, so he took A. I took a train. I got to Wembley and I'd leave right before the. The game ended in a capsule void traffic because I was still exhausted with Man City at Brighton. And he sent me up Nice, and I was watching I. I just realized I was in every cup semi last year. It's the first time I resent. FA Cup game. Exit Chris Time I'd been wen-li stadium old or new, so it was very cool and the reason. I bring that up is. As I watched the one of the playoff games with Wickham. Kind of all over the and I'd a bio out of. MOATED, yeah, I guess are, and then he Wembley Stadium. There is still some magic to it. I've seen all these other stadiums and when they were empty, but when I was watching the Yankee tell it's Wembley or something. Cool so I look forward to that to to see it as a backdrop and. You last year you had Brighton and Watson. The semi's which is nice. APP Some of the smaller close abby, big score and a potential north London final or a Manchester final. That makes these kind of weekends a lot more fun for sure. They were bringing that point the idea romance of Wembley. It's definitely definitely exciting. Yeah, even. It just not even it's quiet an empty. Wimbley it's also. It's eight four. Eight forty five PM in England is. They're kicking up. An FA. Cup Semi it. Doesn't it feel like Fa cups daytime always always always yeah noon. New Civic time and I remember you have to wake up at six or seven on the west coast. See those games and. Semi. So Weird. It's different now because they don't. They don't have one hundred. How many thousand people that they need the traffic in and out of the stadium and. FA Cup. Sunlight Wembley's in the sun. No, I hear you. Yeah, I hear you I was at solves. Begin if we all got Wembley experience. That was at Wembley last year thrown by however many hundred thousand people, which is crazy about now, but I saw, it was first of all. The stadium is incredible. It's just. The game was not so awesome. I saw Waterford and City in the final. ABSO-. Just bits Mac. This crazy. We got two of the Manson legs. The FA Cup under our. Belts and that's the closest Sam's ever come to a trophy. It was it was it was nice. It felt nice fell. Real Nice L. Nice was excited experiencing not with the support supporters out there and I was by myself until I went in the states. I was walking around like this. Guy With no friends. But just watch soaking in the caller is it was pretty cool? Yeah, when we were movies. Amazing editor bucket list if it's not on their everybody listening I, have for the specifically I have Manchester. Final all Manchester. It's not really going out on a limb, but I think that's what it's going to be. I think you're right I. I'd go with that, too. Like arsenal has a shot, mikey. Chelsea I'll take arsenal chelsea. Let's just do the opposite of the tubular. Okay. Yeah Man City Man FA Cup. Fatigue. It could be a thing that would be lovely. It'd be okay. Let's do rest of Europe. I don't have much to say so LALITA. Really is now have A. They got a four point lead Barcelona I've noticed some. Chatter on the interwebs about Messi. Perhaps leaving again every time Barsha is focuses like it just always comes up I, don't I? Don't think he wants to leave. I don't think so. I don't think he. But. I mean. Animal. Him So. City being one of them, so maybe they'll. Maybe they'll just take their big nuts and swing him around their head and slam on the table by bessie this summer. Be like fuck, fuck all. You were just GonNa. Go by Vesey but number one I got two questions for you Max. On a Malaita number one is still like. To Win Champions League. Yes, that's my big thing. I loved that. Draw was pretty good. They great. It's. It's Atalanta. WHO's it in the round of? Who would it be in the quarters again? Going to blank. Oh I got you Is it. HAS PSG young side of the bracket. Is. Athletically Leipzig Leipzig. That's right so. I that's. At plus you avoid the big name teams, so it's really. The way. They're playing, but I- sticking without Letsie codes. Just because it's only even he's A. He's a mad scientists. I as a manager I don't think he gets up credit. It's not pretty to watch, but he just he finds a way and I think he's do why not they've been around there enough and Liverpool was a good stamp of approval. I think Liverpool result. Sure? Because a great bet, witness thing yeah. I took it athlon last time as my real, dark or most. In fact. Atlanta right, what is the number front online to to win plus fourteen hundred I saw today. Somebody tweeted at me. Action offering you that four months ago. I know that's crazy. It's crazy. What you guys, you guys have both fallen in love with I. Mean we've we've as? Many really is. As you guys seem to have really fallen for them recently both you there like the Houston Rockets. Aren't. It's such an IT's such an easy watch, but they're a little more sound defensively, but you know you're getting offensive. Shut lately. Golden. At turned on today and I was like fifteen minutes late. They're already up three ZIP. Messing with people. Like ninety three goals now in thirty three league games. And they the event is game they they destroyed eventers. But they killed them so They're just looked at the roster. And there there was on the getting. The game against the events is sixteen DIS field. Of the starting eleven there was one Italian Guy, the goalkeeper over sixteen that that played there were two Italians so they're from everywhere. This guy's brought them in Gasparrini. By the way, maybe messy goes to Appalachia how would. Other left-footed! They will set him up for success that deep. They haven't been out of lefties. Fun To watch them. They are even this game today. They arrested like four or five of their starters and backups came in. Lit Up Brescia I can say. I can't describe what's happening. That manager has been around pro it burnt awhile. He's not like brand new to the game, but I think he's just it's the switch has been flicked. Maybe like the way it did with Klopp and he's got this thing I. Don't need the stars I mean I don't need the superstar. Don't even need stars, but I get a hard working group of guys and a couple of guys who can finish. I'm good. I was telling. Is I said this earlier? Sam They could. Potentially this week, if enter, and lots of both win their games at the end of the thirty third week of the thirty fourth season, they will have a plus fifty one goal differential and being fourth place. He's. Would, be people. Murder. they're just one of the statistical. You know a novel. Italy's three or four games left ain't four games left, so if you're listening and you have ESPN plus take a look at their games, just the plates I've never seen it before a especially with that caliber. I WANNA make one of those guys but. No these guys would draw a big transfer. They're just. maybe with the exception of is author. Who the Columbia Drum surprise. He stayed around. Kind of thirties and Betas work young players. It's this. Hodgepodge guys that just click. That's got to be on the manager definitely watching that they played today. If you want to see the replay, they'll feel Oh yes, next couple of goals Galore they beat Russia five zero. I believe six two six two is what it was. It was fine. Again. I turn it off early. Don't forget. Champions League. They knocked out, Valencia in those two legs scored eight. And they played PSG. Who doesn't hard, very scored twelve, they might they might give up ten, but they might score that that might be the most entertaining game in the history of the sport, the way of shaping up right now and the way shaping up nil nil. Redo. It began talking. It's literally was literally. Impossible. One nils literally impossible. Yeah. Just circle it on your new calendar August Twelfth audibles at the lack of the PSG can't miss that game. Okay MLS is back. It is here. It is officially here. We're watching it every morning and every night. I'm excited I. Love It, you know. What are I think? We've all been watching the game I know that Max. You're probably contractually obligated to do so But what are what are your thoughts so far on the tournament on the actual soccer? Well coming into the tournament I I'm on board. I'm an Emma. Let's guy so I wanted them to. Strike while the iron is hot here and get hopefully gained some new France. That's saw when I pass it off to Mike. He said some before we started broadcasting that. You know what a smile on my face that he's. He's really that you've enjoyed it. And this is this is doesn't matter. Who Wins this tournament? It's just a way to bring your product at their games every day, and if people dig it and got some texts, although the text I got work because they liked it with the fake crowd noise, they don't. ESPN is not showing it, but some these guys more bells and whistles NFL types. But they texted me. I like it I'm into. It was the only thing going on. They watch their and I'm loving the idea that there's a lot of players. I'm getting to see in times when there's nothing else on in the world with sports being done I'm watching a Lotta mls at these time slots, and I'm seeing a lot of players have never seen. And I'm learning a lot about these individual personalities storylines, these veterans in the new kids. Learning about everything about us have never had the chance to immerse myself in because when they're competing with other things in other time slots I'm usually prioritizing molest near the bottom of my watchlist, but I'm giving the time to the league and giving the time of these players, and actually falling in love with quite a few players and it's. Happening naturally I really am I wash letter to commissioner. Garber I'm serious. I'm here. Yeah, I'm really enjoying it. It's this the chance to see things that I haven't seen before. Like little examples like Portland last night when you watch the Portland game, I watched the Blanco. I'd never watched. Play a full game before, and he was just like a step quicker. A little crisper played hard. I was like this guy's great i. really enjoy watching him play last night. I never said. That? was. Last night we're big. Speaking of air that would have been Monday night the Ucla of seats in the galaxy and certainly toy story, so let's talk about what stood out to me from the game so far number one new England has actually looked like the best team you think. Mike and I both agree on that. New England they just looked Chris right up right from the start. They look good They've got a dangerous attack obviously. Turner Goal So. Friend Columbus. Columbus looked pretty solid deadline. You gotTA. You gotTA. Keep in mind that yes, Cincinnati's. Seem to have issues at the moment. What Salt Lake Salt Lake was impressive to me. and. Colorado's team, too. So you've got that was good. Yeah, that's was a good guide. Call it! Soccer Coaches on the bench for Salt Lake now and I know he's one of those defensive guys, so I have a feeling by the end of this think they'll. They'll end up conceding the least. I like I like a real salt. Lake in the those kids are GonNa. Play hard, and that's what they are. It's mostly their academy, guys. That's why it's unfortunate Dallas couldn't make. It could be really played well in this. You're seeing with Ralph Salt Lake, and Freddy Juarez Young Coach They have just EPI Rossi coming off the bench in that first game. So this is an intrigue around them, and that's what you're looking for. Looking. Her stuff will make you tune in. Will so Chicago, got a big win against Seattle. interesting game Chicago looks like they're gonNA. Be a tough team to play against. I'm excited about that, but I. WanNa ask you Max on. l., AFC, so what? What's the deal here? In obviously Novella? So this is not the L. AFC that we're. We're used to, but what? What what? What's what's going on here? Three three draw with What was it, HOUSTON? Yes the Dynamo and Elliott Look Great. They just made three really bad defensive efforts. On basically four plays that they face defensively, which is unacceptable. I think you said twenty nine percent of the possession. I don't WanNa go to deepen the numbers. I think I will explain this point because there's such a disparity but twenty nine percent of the possession. Bad, defending on the set piece, which was the third goal, but then after that they came up so I. I think they can fix defensively. What I took away? They they did defend the main focus of my notes US really well. They had to do that stuff on the periphery that to fix so and I think the club said that we want to defend this guy because he can score goals, but in fact they could score three goals without Carla's belly is exciting development. They've been waiting for Brian. Rodriguez Ryan Rodriguez is on. They'll club kill me by speculated this. He's A. Forty million dollar transfer if he hits it here, I'm not maybe before Kobe. twenty, twenty, five million, because he's really good in. Uruguay and I talk to Uruguay He's our best young player I go. What are you talking about? You have feathered equal Valle. Verde planes around. He goes no no no Brian Rodriguez. He's the best prospect we have watched so those. I've heard that from two year. Wines that are in the in the media business so seen that guy he's really es legit, so, but if he goes bonkers, they're. Going to be the phones going to be going up because he's a very unique skill set, he can, he could be the most talented guy at this tournament i. know have my black and gold glasses it just you don't see prospects like that. Maybe I guess you'd say Martinez. He was a little bit older, but Barco but I think he's probably the top of the list I'm excited to hear that I haven't given enough attention to that now I did looking at. The AC Milan interest. There's there's this real deal here. There's Dortmund for little bit, but insist they wanna see him because they sold him. The Elliott see bond him. Before he hit, he started playing with your national team and he started with the national team, and they started scoring goals, and if that happened before the sale, I think some a European club. The jumped in this. There's no way so just good timing I mean that's. That's what emily supposed to be all about right I. mean that's the. That's the story of the League. Game we haven't even talked. About might have been the the best. At least most exciting was Toronto FC NEC, united, which unfortunately got postponed. but yeah, so who was it Toronto took a two zero lead, and they were eleven men against tents. DC was down two goals in down a man at them. L. S. baby boy two goals in the last five minutes to come. And Sneaker Point I was way goal was so class though. Delete. Nice. You want these games. To be memorable, that's certainly was you got to be a little patient sport, but There's enough young players, and you have the great veterans that good. It's not as good as these European Leagues. We know that, but there's there's enough class. Of interest to to draw even a bit of a snobby soccer fan. Yeah, well, listen. You're looking at him right there with. Mike is. All you. I watch everything. I watch everything now. That's the whole point. Is that the what's been great about this? Melissa's Back Tournament and I'm sure it was the plan. From the very get go is to take advantage of the dead air, and as long as you get to see a product in see the teams see the players. Start to get more familiar with the story lines with personalities with the rivalries. Then you buy in and you get in, and it's just. The quality is good enough that it keeps you coming back. Channel added, but it's good. STARBUCK's sorry about that seven. I will add this. They want to get the TV numbers up the numbers. Far Been Okay. It's been a nice little kick, but nothing great. You know, but I think they were prepared for that, but to your point. Do you start caring about it? They become more important. You still have two weeks for baseball of ten days. Baseball starts in the two and a half weeks for MBA starts used to have chance to really grabbed the attention of those people looking for something to watch, and then it's going to be single elimination which Americans we. SAW Tournament keep March madness. Exactly both speaking of speaking of single the nation playoffs. We W sal. Come up! We haven't talked much about it. I have been watching the Games actually been. They've been white entertaining I. Think People if they actually take the time to watch the Games, You'll get into it's you know it's the quality is not bad. CBS's actually done a pretty good job I wish they would put more on TV to make it more accessible. But yeah, so we're down to the playoffs now and then we sell single-nation. The big question for people haven't really been following is basically like. Is North Carolina Courage? Are they ever GonNa? Lose a game and it's not clear like they're. They're just you know they're. They're not coming out and beating people six zero or anything like that, but they're just sort of winning every game, and that's what they did last season for the most part so we'll see we'll see. Somebody can take him down. Unfortunately, my red stars have a doing. So great, but now it's everybody makes the playoffs in this in this competition so now. Has the same shot moving forward and You know we'll see how it goes playoff. Start this weekend, so you know everybody. If you get time, you should watch I. Give it two thumbs up. I'll watch I. Will I I haven't watch, but I wanted to watch. I watch little snippets here and there, but it has I got the CBS all access. The Games are there and you click and I think that's where they want to direct traffic. And I almost see that. Maybe that's something that you guys you champions, the CBS, all access, a hundred percent, a hundred or all the Champions League. You Get star Trek you get. All the CVS. All CBS shows I've actually. have an old the new twilight zone. I've watched a couple of those. I got it for the free trial in a for. No free shows. Shows I have more five. Oh, I haven't watched ups in God knows but guess what we're the minority. Love, those shows I guess I guess this is my grandparents passed away. It's probably the last time war CBS. Sorry, that was a shot at you. and. That's it. That's all we got this week. Tons of games tones of soccer you know. We talked about forgetting on. The summer is going to all of a sudden be gone, and we're going to get really sad a motor deal. But we're not there yet, so let's let's enjoy it. Let's revel in it while we can Mike, Max. Always great to have you on here. and everybody listening can't thank you enough and will be back with more soccer next week, so tune back in pre K. guys. Right next installment here of our profiles in bubble bobble courage series as I think I just came up with that name for it we now welcome on met. Freeze The Philadelphia Union. How you doing Matt. Good. Our pleasure, so you have now been in the bubble for going on like. Let's see two weeks or so at this point, so you know getting tomorrow marks two weeks two weeks all right, so you've gotten past like the ooh, this is kind of fun new adventures take. Of the experience and now you're into the perhaps into what the fuck are! We GonNa do today. You know type monotony. What's what's the vibe like within the team in your head at this point? yeah, it's. It's definitely not so much sooner exciting, and in like Oh. Like what can we do it for flying, you know let's go outside. Go to the. Beaches out for us. You know it's play. Volleyball Link announced kind of mortlake damned know, let's just get these games done. Let's you know obviously do our best during these games, but it's like a lot more business like now and it will. At this point we're you know we're worried about winning on not not just settling into this. You won't Orlando Mobile. Certain to get the first one. We'll get into that in a little bit. But before we do, so you know. I've talked I've asked a number of guys this. Coming into the bubble, you know a lot of teams probably had some. Group discussions about? You know playing in in general you know the the. How anxious people were how nervous they were whether they wanted to play it all. was there any like serious dissent among the the Union as far as playing at all? you just like descent to come down essentially. Were there people that were like I? Don't what to play. There are certainly people you know none none in particular is just kind of like the general attitude was. Damage. We gotta we gotTa Lever Families for. Six seven weeks possibly make it to the finals. I mean thankfully you know I don't. Know One. On the back home grown but Someone the Illinois think. Ten or eleven guys in my team have two kids and wife. Other people have lives that are expecting in. I think the general attitude was just not super excited for it but in the end the day you know. It's not really a decision. If, you know if the League has turned, we're going to be there. We're going to be fighting and I think you can have. You can see that in New York game. We'll give it our all. Yeah, okay so you guys had been in the bubble for. Let's say ten days of this point win. The obviously Dallas left or are. They didn't leave withdrawn from the tournament. Nashville same situation and then you know those were clearly cases that had come from outside into the bubble. Then there were the news just a day or two ago, the DC united in. TORONTO FC The game was being postponed because there was you know, apparently a positive test both teams. was that what was the initial reaction from from your teammates when that came down? side in here about it so I goes a morning game in essentially I think Toronto just didn't show up because they had they had. Other tasks or something on their team, so the game got postponed, but I heard about when I got out to lunch that in everyone's talking about it at the table, and then we were just kind of like. You know like this is obviously going to happen. At some point you know someone on one team is gonNA test positive. Or know inconclusive like I think that was actually it was inconclusive in if it's a certain days of a game, like obviously games, not going to happen. You know we weren't surprised necessarily, but it was like. Funny Weird situation where both teens the only two inconclusive tasks at that time where the two teams out of screen off that morning and and I'm sure that you know they weren't happy about hearing that they could possibly have grown. They were not being postponed. They weren't happy about you. Know I think the nine o'clock game, I? Wake that's. Again Five Am. DOING THE PRE game meal sell getting out to the field. They're starting to warm up and then they hear a shit you know like. Games canceled. I can really imagine that happening. I wouldn't be too happy about it. But wasn't so nobody was like well. Fuck bubbles popped I. I'm just going to get. To be fair like. Evans joking about that in the end of the day. Like obviously, some cases are GONNA happen here. and. As as much as you know, we don't want to admit it. You know they've done a very good job keeping US safe in. You know cleaning everything and You know pretty much ever in to roll so I I think he knew occasionally you know some random case is gonNA pop up. Some reads driver comes in you know. Bring one person, but you know they isolated. We weren't really worried about it. Spreading too much. I don't think okay well. Speaking of like eats and somebody going. Food NBA bubble so the NBA bubbles going on right now. Things are already popping off over there across the I dunno across the pool from you guys I don't know how far away there I mean I'm sure it's inserts. minimial of saying I don't even know I'm. Is Probably Pretty close to us? I mean the you know the funny thing about MBA's. That like they just create drama? This incredible and great, which is for the League but in its. Ever I mean there's always something interesting going on, there's always there's always news like whether. It's drama whether it's to meet citing or some showing not. Always drama. You GotTa give 'em credit that that you know they keep. They keep twitter. Interesting NBA twitter is a is a trip that they got like so what I've seen so far is a got girl saying that they've already been invited inside the bubble that gas beer chugging contests. They got the do got beats, and he now has to quarantine for ten days because he wouldn't pick up. Pick up food from UBER driver. Basically! It sort sorta seems like they're sort of putting. You guys to shame like the power moves only slash drama category Do you guys follow? What's going on with the NBA bubble and sort of see what they're doing me like him. We gotTA. We gotta like yeah. I mean I don I definitely pay attention to A. You know on twitter. Introduce you know something of its own. I, think I. Think it's Kinda just shows like the difference in culture of soccer basketball like. You know the whole. You're talking thing and. Publicly like inviting girls over the hotel I just don't really think that would necessarily the soccer culture as well as I mean you know as much as you want to like you know. How do you with thing I think like? I think. I saw I forget who it was on ESPN some video bit talking about how you know NBA. Players are Kinda like who are doing that kind of tone down to you know it's actually happening society right now, which is like people really really struggling for so many reasons right now we know one is cronin in like fact that like they're complaining about this safe, which is safe thing? You know you're getting paid. Millions of dollars like that. It's kind of like. I I don't necessarily think the ones that publicity. Wants not on themselves. You know and yeah, obviously the size to on things for the reason I think the you know is not necessarily probably. Probably GONNA promote. Your jogging inviting girls over in. The NBA sort of they got their their established. You know they've got their big ASS. You know there's a billion dollar corporation whereas you know, it's obviously big and growing, but it's it's not quite like NBA level yet. It's not it's not. Right, we gotTA. We gotta toe the line a little bit more maybe. Are you guys even like allowed alcohol inside the bubble. I think there's still there's like one or two stores. The store wine I mean I'm not going to be going debt Obama wine, but I'm sure that I mean there's no way that you know. How twenty twenty four players on sour many teams going forty five days without drinking. I'm sure someone know suitcases beer, some of that and. Now that I said that I just asked the question then I remembered. I saw post from Kellyn row of the rats. Right against all those fucking wine bottles. Right when you say forty five days, you probably couldn't go. At, all! But yeah, he's a big dude. Yeah. So yeah, that was. News on our team to. Also, have you guys? You guys got access to wine especially. If you guys win this game coming up. Today in fact against the Inter Miami and you basically punch ticket to the next round. I'm you don't do it, but just think about it. Think about starting some sort of like wine chugging contests give people. Get some. Going you know I feel like that's saloon? Unless bubbas exactly. I'll be the face in it starting you. That freeze Downing Viola Chardonnay. Calling out like three guys, and then you know it goes from there, you. Get them. Going out into. Okay so. Another tangentially generally related questions your yet listen. You're the one you're. You need to be the. US especially. If you win the game, then you guys basically get your your ticket punch. I know Jim Kern price the type of coach Really love something like that, right? From from a guy who just turned twenty one. Well at least you're twenty one twenty one. All right so tangentially related question, so I saw again related to NBA twitter I Patrick Beverley. you know he posted something. figures INSTAGRAM I. Don't know ahead a ton of shirts and I think I read somewhere that he was basically like going to sell them because if guys didn't pack enough like close, he's like look all Mike. We're going to have to come to me and get some close. Is there anything? Is there anything that you like? If you could just like, get a whole boatload of supply of one supply that teammates would pay out their ass for. What would it be right now? it'd be food specifically within the food category. B Candy. We been on lockdown as far as it's been chicken rice as symbols for the past thirteen days, and probably for another thirty to forty days depending. How long were here? So I think I think we all need some comfort food at some point the next. You know within the next few weeks. Apparently, if we win tonight, apparently, we're getting CHICK-FIL-A. Delivered Smart. Programme massive. That's motive that's. Going to yeah, that's. I listened the Chick-fil-a I would. I would do. Anything Trang gets chick-fil-a right now, so I totally understand. Especially you guys have been eating. You Know I. Don't know not microwave meals, but you know you've been. Good quality food, but it works. I'm not. It's not just. Isn't that fried chicken with the overly buttered buns and some chick-fil-a sauce? Okay, so you listen you're you're your twenty one year old guy? You're single You know you got a lot of friends. In the League I'm sure so I'm not going to ask you to throw anybody specific under the bus I'm not gonNA. Ask S you name names, but. If, there's a team that is likely to get caught. Breaking curfew either to slake sneak out to the bars to party or sneak somebody in. What teams are going to be? I don't know of even possible because there's secure. There's legitimately security at every entrance to this facility. If I had the tech. She this is a hard one. you know the issues? I probably would have said Dallas I. can't even I can't say Dallas now so right? To go with Oursel- ourselves enough home grown they're you know they're young? Guys there introduce something so. Like it I like it I've Seen Dallas. Those guys are doing porch. Put Patio parties with the Dance parties on their on their patio. is so sad actually I feel bad for them. But was so I was coming back from From, our corona timing gives yesterday morning. And we were walking back in. We passed the Dallas. Players as they were leaving to get their flight to go home. So I guess we're. They're released from their rooms. and. We're like. Ever really wanted you know. Having a number like Oh never mind. So it was like Moses parting the sea like doubts would come in between a bunch of other fires, and which is. I. Mean The the funny thing about that is that they're probably the safest one of the bunch at this point because they've been in the room like without added. That's actually actually. We were talking about the really actually. Guarantee to not have chronic. They haven't any salt. Team days shoot. Is. I was I was sort of following along some instagram stories. It was like I just felt bad. So, sad. All right okay so last question for housekeeping stuff, so one word to describe your thoughts or feelings on the MLS is back tournament. Word one-word. The tentacle. that. For a lot of potential for. Mystic but at the same time. That's not necessarily optimistic. I took that as An, Opportunity. Yeah, no potentials. Negative. You know we you know. Time will tell okay. Okay. Nice well done well done. Yeah, I me, being the you know as a Tottenham US national team Fan, who all I have is hope. That's like my whole life is based on hope. I guess I was just I. Like demonstrated my own like blind optimism by assuming that you just. By the way. That added the dark belly that one okay well done. Okay all right, so let's move onto soccer. Let's talk little soccer here, so you guys have played. Three Games Y- tough loss of Dallas. A crazy draw at L.. AFC The the returning. You know as you said before we got on basically the best team in the League, last season undisputed pretty much, and then you beat nyc one zero on the last Thursday. So, what have you learned about the team over those three games? You didn't really know coming into the season. Think Brandon parents our talking about this yesterday. I think I. Think First of all things like you know teams definitely starting to click you know when Ernst came in there was. A new GM. Ton Of player movement, new players, old players leaving you know, formation, change, everything, and so I think naturally you know it's GonNa take some time to click and start. Start realizing how to play with each other, you know strengths of each other things like that and I think it's really starting to click for us, which is Great So that's one thing I think another one is is You know the whole. The whole clutch factor meeting Joya has come up with. You know we're talking about like how many goals you score lasts five total in the four of them. Game winners just like like. Now we're tied. We're losing twenty minutes now. I like all the score now so he makes him talent. When you're you know when he when He. When he scores they're always big goals, and then the other one is is outside, probably not learning that. learn that I think we're you know tighter than we think we're. We're not necessarily like a hugely tight group off the field. You know everything like that. You know we're all friends and stuff no issues, but but I would say on the field. That just like is very apparent. Now that were You know we're bonding well and were like I'm saying you know clicking. In as not like not like a clicking right now. We're peaking right now by the museum on one game. I just think it was kind of like a you know an example of like things are looking good, and and you know. Let's continue on us on the same path that make sense in especially after a rough start in Dallas that we had to. Okay So the you know, there was some turnover on the team, not like massive, but some turnover there still some recognizable face as you mentioned. ALIBABA obviously everybody. All US men's national team fans know him know all about him. Under Blake is another guy that I think a lot of people know and he had credible by the way it's Villi. Leap told He was he? He saved Bacon. A couple of times but can you point to a team or two? That people perhaps don't know quite as well that They probably will sometime soon. Yeah. definitely I mean I think. Most obvious one that you know comes to comes to. Ones would probably be the Aaronson He is not necessarily. I mean his I nine nineteen still so. You get on the field year against them. You don't necessarily say you know. We gotTA watch this guy. He's in abused with pace. He's Gonna I'm also spent like that like. The Guy can frigging play like this issue. The movement he has you know these fast twitch muscles of like you know he just like he'll be looking down. Look up in immediately like someone's already on him that he hadn't realized. And he is that all Alzheimer's naturally. It's around in my. He doesn't even think about it. you know he's GonNa he's GonNa six season I can me towel, and I, the other one Jim Euro. I mean not necessarily. the most well known player on the team or you know in the League. You know not in most talked about the like. He is a game changer You know is a huge huge win for us. Getting him back the season. I know that you know the staff that a lot of work in that deal happen. We're really happy to have him. You can even see. Once civic with him versus maximum follows in. New York. where he lost the ball and that just absolutely destroyed him with the tackle not that it's hard to destroy him with the tackle is not the biggest biggest ever, but I mean just absolutely murdered him in cleanly and got the ball. On these get on target. You know just kind of shows like how you. How tenacious I guess he is and and I. Think People Are Probably GonNa see that pretty soon. Obvious Netflix and all star caliber fire, Okay can answers obviously a lot of people? aaronson sort of been on the edge of the national team picture for a while, but To be a kid. That's that young to be on, and just like consistently on that on that On that level is is incredible, so yeah, I'm sure he's won. A lot of people should be watching for should. We should be watching exactly. Okay so group you? A group has been a bit of a cluster. Fuck from the start. Six six teams originally I know you know as a as a fire fan myself I was like what the fuck is. This nonsense in the national. Yet withdrawn Chicago got moved into Group B so group a your with NYC. MIAMI ORLANDO. I. Guess, it's sort of silly to ask what you thought of the group when I saw it at this point because we're almost slower third of the way through the group Lanesborough. But. I'll ask you this so when you think of the group. As it stands now, let's say, would you in terms of the competitiveness or the level of it? Would you put it in the top half or the bottom half in terms of? The the top being group, a death bottom being as easy as get. Out said probably you know right in the middle I'd say like one step above the mental make sense like one two time outs I. Like six You know there's definitely. It's a strong group, but it's you know we don't necessarily have multiple. All Star teams. If that makes sense you know, it's like a competitive group I don't speak too soon. Obviously you know if two games left, but you know we hope to win the group but it's not. It's not like you know. It's a through park I mean this. You know, NYC. It's massively. They think they got I last year. In the East A us for I, last few games of the season for first in the East on, so I guess if you. If you look on paper it's better groups, you know. We had based on the finishes. Last year we had to in the top five I'm an yet. You know the new the new conning expansion teammates who has? All the all the craziest amount right now is my GM in Orlando's. Obviously you know not necessarily again the best on paper, but they always put up a fight and there. May Have definitely a new new look to their team. This year based on based on what I've seen sure so, who's got more motivation coming into this game against Miami you guys for the Chick-fil-a or them wanting to get their first dub? On meet Suka looks good looks good right now, man. I think I think. I think. I think I hope both wrote. I could use some some nuggets now since. I liked the spicy chicken sandwiches. Those are my jam. Sauces big. Needed chick-fil-a songs need the chick-fil-a sauce. Okay last question here so you guys are playing Miami tonight. Unfortunately, the probably won't drop until like tomorrow. So like we're sort of in this nether world period where where if I ask you about the game? It really won't matter so what I'm going to try and make lo lemonade from from a lemon here and. Play, it will do a role playing this will be. This'll be good for your career here so you can thank me later so basically out I'll ask you percent to be reporter, and you can pretend to be yourself which is should be pretty easy. and I'll ask you. First I'll ask you based assuming that you guys win. Your thoughts on the on the the win and what it did for the team. You feel how good you feel about the nuggets in the in the three points and moving on to the next. And then and then I'm going to ask you what happens. If you lost and you got well, I will ask you if you lost and then you know just. We're just GONNA practice. You know your media savviness here. You know you're young kid. You got a lot of years in the league coming up, so. Yeah, we'll just. You gotTA listen. There's no there's. Jump in the deep end here I mean this is the Kiddy Pool. Let's be honest, but. okay, so I'm I'm a big J. J. journalist here. this is this should be easy for me, so you guys great win tonight, you guys. Beat Inner Miami. Three one while done -gratulations. What are your thoughts? What? What does this do for the team? Definitely huge team thanks for the question by the way. To the team. The second wind in a row almost guarantees asking now the group You know definitely happy happy that we want. Ultimately we got one more game you know this is bigger than just out of the group. This is actual league points that were playing for so. Have, you win, but you know we're on to the next game win. For Third Women. While I'll give you at eight out of ten because he threw a thank you for the question there which is played. Using. Bad, bad, okay now, now, flipside, listen met. You guys played well. It was a tough loss. To one you know. It's you guys? You guys thought you played well, but you came out with loss. What what are what are your takeaways from this game? Where do you go from? Blue Question. Start get started. You know from here. You know we would probably take us like non a league game, so you know one last doesn't mean everything Definitely? GonNa go back to board and in lots of film and everything. Ultimately, we're GONNA have to stick to. What were you know what our game plan is? And I'm sure will. Click again, hopefully next game, and in another way then we'll get out of the group so not too worried, but obviously we wish we. Could you know go all the way with the W and no nuts? No Knox Fuck me. That's terrible. That's what. You got most of the cliches down there. You guys do practice practically. Is that like your media-training? Innate you know. You've been listening to other people Susan's. Contract, you've listened down. If people and you just like Kinda, you Kinda just. Like like ad-libbing. You know that matters. Answer your team. Your players name instead of instead of previous guys. There's only so many questions you can ask him an answer, so yeah, it really is just plug and play like Oh. You know we are on the Philadelphia Union. We've lost so I. You feel you know. I know right well. You Pass you pass the test Hopefully that'll come in handy isn't as your career progresses here. Seat Mad. Appreciate you coming on obviously best of luck tonight. The luck in the third gaming. It's Orlando and you know. Hopefully we'll have you back on when when some of this bullshit passes in emily actually have a little fun in digging your career and all that stuff. Awesome. Look forward to in base me. Perfect appreciate.

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"By the way, John gos- rights million dollar mile was excellent. Okay. Time for fast track. It's brought to you by Rex Rex dedicated to helping homeowners Savy's and game changing technology a full service experience. And no middleman Rex cutting agent commissions by seventy percent to get started and unlock your savings. Visit sell with wrecks dot com. All right. John one side of the coin we've got the famous Michael Thompson wine came on the other side of the coin. Good ole two buck. Chuck call it in the air tasted the same to me tales. It's tails, cheap stuff. Yup. Go for the chalk people. All right. May this from the guardian Nastase plans for the first all female spacewalk have fallen through. And the reason is they don't have enough space suits that fit. The astronauts, which should have been a great leap for womankind has turned into a stumble after NASA said on Monday night, they will only have access to one. Correctly sized top spacesuit for females when the walk was scheduled on Friday. One of the two women on the mission and McLean will now have to give up her place to a male colleague in. She thought a large size suit would be fine. But after a space walk last week found that the medium size was a better fit and would be the most appropriate suit to wear. In and out of the international space station. So in other words, they announce this big female only space walk, right? They asked the women what size suit do you want? Yup. This woman screwed up size. Yup. And because the spacesuits were originally built for men she's out, right? Is this something or nothing? Well, it sounds like there was a lack of planning here on the vendor for somebody. Why do you when you don't announce it in the metoo era and say, hey, we're going to do this is kind of cool. We're going to do an all female spacewalk. And then when you blow it up the reason can't be she doesn't fit the suit. You look like Bo Bo's. Yeah. I don't I don't think it necessarily as any delay the whole spacewalk just say, hey, rather than kicking this girl out and having a men do it just say, we need more time. It's obviously, we're not we're we're we're literally dealing with rocket science here. This understand the only way it gets. There is for another rocket to fly up with another suit. Right. When they say, they need a few more months to build suit just too late for few months. Don't announce no we're doing the walk. But the girls out in the guys in on the all female space spacewalk. Yeah. I don't think it has anything to do with me. But it does definitely have something to do with bad planning, whoever who's ever in charge of that. What was that in that movie? The verdict I need somebody's ass in my briefcase. Right. That's somebody should get, you know, called to the carpet as a total aside the most mind blowing documentary I saw two weeks ago called Apollo eleven. It is all unseen footage. From the very first time. We set foot on the moon that that trip from beginning to end mission control. All this kind of stuff. I walked out of there feeling so patriotic. Armstrong's flight, right? It's a CNN documentary. And it is an theaters right now. It's fantastic fast track. All right. Computer clicked off here on the heels of major league baseball opening the twenty nine thousand nine season in Japan. The NFL is reportedly considering kicking off the twenty twenty pro football season in China. According to the athlete Lino league owners are discussing the possibility of follow of allowing the San Francisco forty Niners to give up a home game and serve as the host team in that game. The Rams are who are also on the west coast and play the same division as the forty Niners have previously shown interest in a game like this and could be a possible opponent. Having the game start the season would make sense as the teams would have appropriate lead up time to acclimate to the fifteen hour time difference as well as recover before week two of the season. What do you think of the idea of the NFL opening the twenty twenty season in Japan? I'm sorry in China. And what do you think of the Rams potentially being part of it? Hey, it hate with capital H A T E. E hate it. I don't understand this obsession with playing regular season games in faraway places. Like the time the dodgers open the season Australian Clayton Kershaw screwed up his back flying twelve hours back on a stop it that this is exactly what preseason games are for exactly what therefore to introduce our sports to in these teams. I don't understand it. They're obsessed with playing regular season games that count in places like London and China and Japan if I'm if I'm a ram fan. I would hate that. My team would have to fly across the world in the middle of a potential Super Bowl season. No what what are they doing? Stop it preseason game. It's yes. Regular season game. Terrible say followed the mud. Wait, wait with the money change. It was free season. Just regular wizards. I think it absolutely would would be televised. Dell's by ticket I went to London for the Rams game two years ago. I'm going to go to the Rams game in London. Again this year, it's a fantastic experience. And by the way, when you go if they played it in August. Oh, because it's it's there's a low leverage game. It's a preseason game. I barely even go to the preseason games at the Coliseum. Right. But the point is that the first teams to play in China are going to have access to four billion people. Yeah. And it's for example, the Lakers are going to China this year wide Brandt that they're going for a preseason game for two of them. And by the way, I love what the Lakers are doing instead of playing six preseason games here in cities that you don't normally go to they'll play to in China, and then two more here, and that's it. Right. But that's how you treat it. So you don't screw up your regular three seasons important. Yeah. I'll tell you this. The London game did not screw up the Rams season it rolled into a buy week. They beat the giant. Well, they want big over thirty four nothing. Yeah. And they built on that two years ago. I, you know, I understand the reason you want to sell a lot of merch in another. Country. I think you can still sell merch you can still show off your game. You can still sell out the stadium. If you do it in the preseason, then it doesn't take a screw up your regular season and make your players can on a flight for twelve fourteen. I'm completely cool with it. I would I would rather the Rams not do it though. I'd rather the ranch never you. I would hate his problem is the Rams have already gone three years playing one game out of the country little background on that when they moved when the Rams moved from Saint Louis back to LA one of the things that the other owners stuck them with was until your new stadium is ready. You have to participate in the international game. So that was the price of doing business. Boy, you know, we're not that far away from the twenty twenty stadium launch. We have one after next season. Yeah. One to be in the brand new ram stadium, which is going to be incredible Chack. All right Mace Amelie on oh Saleh. Sa was a soccer player who played for French team called Nanto's. I hope I'm pronouncing outright any en ES. But earlier this year Mantas agreed to a transfer fee with an English Premier League team Cardiff for fifteen million pounds. That's about twenty million US dollars. But tragically Saleh was killed in a plane crash before he ever gotten to Cardiff now Nanto's has filed a complaint with fica. That's the international governing body for soccer that Cardiff should still have to pay the transfer free Mantas field since the deal was agreed to it should be honored for now Cardiff is refusing to pay how should they settle this? It's hard. Yeah. I think they're point is that we basically like you always say players are assets. We sold you our biggest asset, and then planned accordingly with the money we sold him for. I mean, I think that probably the transfer fee still needs to be paid. I mean. Okay. Well, let's now let's look at it from the other side. Let's look at it. If you're Cardiff, look, this is an extra first of all, I agree with you. I think the transfer fee probably, you know, in a world of legal lease. Yeah. Should be paid. But if you're Cardiff can't you play this card. All right. This is extraordinary circumstance, right? The guy died do you not have a heart? The man is dead. He is obviously never gonna play for us. He's never gonna play for you. He's never gonna play for anyone. Let it go. That's a reasonable argument. It's we have a clause in our contract that I am trying to is it called force majeure. That is forced measure. Okay. It's nobody told me about the no it's it's boilerplate in every broadcasting contract. And it's basically this. Station. Earthquake happens today station gets knocked off the air for six months. There is no product. They don't have to pay us really because they can't make money in their business model is based on. They make money. They sell ads. They take part of that ad revenue to pay me. And you I don't know. I think you may have that. Reversed. Unforeseeable circumstances. Oh, yeah. They're prevent someone from fulfilling a contract. You're right, right. An earthquake might be a matter of fact, I think this would go for is your you went illness. No, if you and I die. Like, let's say you and I were at that remote yesterday. And you know, God forbid we are in the same car coming home. We built died in a car crash. They don't have to pay our estates your family or my family the remainder of our contracts because we're no longer fulfilling the contract, right? Which is the argument that Cardiff could make here. But it's a fascinating question because you could argue if you were the team that sold him that nana's. Well, look, we we agreed to sell them. You agree to give twenty million. We've already spent some of that twenty million on other things you already gave us a twenty million. Well, they didn't though you agreed to give it to us. But you never paid us. Oh, the trade never went through it went. There have been no funds exchange. The agreement was agreed to guy gets on a plane flying to the new team playing goes down. He dies. Oh my gosh. So it's hard. You can make an argument, Greg. What would you do? I am not sure. I have a future as a sports radio host because that's what everybody wants to. There is your nice Greg is hot take. One day. I was not not listen to. Okay. He was not. I it's a fascinating question. Lawyers would understand it better than me. I think we didn't depend on what paperwork exchanged between the where the signatures on the line that died that guy died. I think Cardiff could make the thing. Look the guy's dead. Let's you know, let's move on. But the tread. That's a weird story in it. Yeah. All right Gallup has done a series of pulling about paranormal phenomenon in one of the questions about astrology. What percentage of Americans? Do you think? Believe in astrology fifty percent right down the middle. Twenty eight percent. Really fifty two percent say no, they don't believe it. Do you believe in astrology? Okay. This is going to be a weird answer. I always kind of have. But I pay zero attention to it. I like when's the last time you honestly, read your horoscope? I don't even know where I'd read it. Well, you just go online. Couldn't you I suppose I used to be in the paper when I was a little kid. And when you were thumbing through the paper, you would look at always, look, I'm Anne. So when it says a moon child cancer. Yes, they would say something which I thought was weird name. Why would why would you label a group of people at cancer? That's not good. If answer. But I would always look at it. And if it sets like today's going to be an extraordinary day of change. Okay. Let's go. But since I stopped reading actual newspapers. Yeah. I don't think I've looked at my horoscope and five years, I've never believed in it. I always thought it was a bunch of hokum. But did you ever look at your horoscope when I was a little kid? But I would never look at it. Now, I can't imagine. Even now, I guess I could Google. But I mean, every once I've got a couple of friends they'll say, I'll do your charts. I'm like, I don't need any charts. Yeah. There are people who on people that would believe in them yet totally on this. We gotta we gotta do our two minute break here. I will look up both of our horoscope. Okay. Good. And we'll see if it makes fantastic. Red letter day. Mason Ireland back in two minutes with more fasttrack ESPN LA. I fast track rolling on Ireland's to you. First. Maze horoscopes. Here's mine cancer with the moon hovering in you're indecisive seven. House for the first part of the day. You may feel torn in two directions. Should you stay or should you go cancer? That's a question on the you can answer. But you may have an easy time making a choice. If you talk things out with the other party have a state of the union conversation about your bond or the two of you aligned on your long term goals. Make sure you're on the same page before moving forward will clearly if you were here for the wine tasting Michael, and I are not on the same page at all. Now, what is your Ashra hemming Eriksson? You are an Aries. So it's time to check in with your astrological. Oh, that's right. You just had a birthday. Yeah. Okay. Goals goals goals? Yes. Pursue your grand. Embiid with confidence this morning as the moon lingers in Capra corn and your career sector if you're working on a group project empower yourself to step into a management role. Yes. Lead with love and people will get on board with your vision die. Down the intensity this afternoon as the moon settles into merrymaking Aquarius in your eleven thousands of group f. Jim and a half days. You get to party. Jay house a celebratory happy hour with your favourite co workers, plus a couple of spontaneous friends could be the perfect ending this productive. Now, you could argue that the wine tasting was in of sorts happy. What did it say though at the beginning goals goals goals goals? My goal is to get through this show and go home that is my goal. Miam- Bishen of the day. All right. Here's my fasttrack. Question. ESPN is speculating that the raiders would be perfect for hard Dungs this year from John gruden's Cecchi persona to new general manager, Mike may ox recent television past two huge personalities on the roster in Antonio Brown and linebacker Vonk as Bertha CT. Yup. All the way down to quarterback family, man. Derek cars charity and church work. And maybe even a marshawn Lynch return some. I think that charity and church work is going to be they'll be light on that. In hard knocks. The raiders are one of five NFL teams eligible for the show. You're the other four Detroit. San Francisco New York Giants and Washington there's a bunch of rules like you Kevin to have you couldn't have been on it in the last ten years. You can't have a first year head coach. Right. You know? So these five fit all the criteria. But there's one problem. The raiders don't wanna do it. Both Mark Davis in Jon Gruden think it would be a huge distraction so much show that Davis said he would fire Gruden and then hire him back. So he could claim to have a first year head coach really that would disqualify them from being part of this. How does this end? Do you think the NFL makes the raiders do it or pivots to the lions? Niners giants or Redskins lions giants Niners liners or Redskins. There's only one of those teams that I think would be a good hard knocks. I think the Niners might be good. But the raiders is the best one. But think about. Garoppolo coming back injury Kyle Shanahan, John Lynch is very telegenic former TV guy. Yup. They've got a lot of people coming back injuries. They they have. I think they may be the pick. They can make it mandatory. They can then I think no one agrees to do it. They assign hard knocks to a team. Then I vote raiders ninety two rain is the most am by the way. I don't if I'm the Niners. I do it. Now to get it out of the way. Is there any established curse from hard? Now. I mean there. I mean, they're like some teams have great years. Some teams don't have great yours. If I was Mark Davis. And the raiders I'd be. Yeah. Let's let's reinforce our brand. At greg. Just made a good point every time. I've watched every season of hard knocks. I ended up rooting for that team. Yeah. Because they do good job of humanizing the the guys on the team. Yeah. And so it turns into a, you know, I I would do it. Yeah. Because you get storylines about a team, and they suck in right? Yeah. I the writers ought to do it. There's going to be a lot of drama around that team fouls. Check. All right. The movie rocket man about the life of Elton. John will be released on may the twenty fourth. And there is controversy. The director is a guy named Dexter Fletcher. And at the insistence of paramount a nude scene between Elton John played by Turnage for ten and Elton John's manager played by Richard Madden has been cut a source who worked on the bio bio pic told the Daily Mail two guys have a naked. Cuddle to express their love free other and that will be reduced to a fully dressed warm. Hello. So I always notice double standard. There's always some nudity in straight relationships in a movie, right? It doesn't really happen in movies where there are gay characters. What do you think Paramount's decision to cut the the scene in rocket? I'm trying to remember. And I never never I saw it start to finish were their love scenes in Brokeback mountain. Yes. Because that movie would be the exception to the run that was an art film. And but it went a lot of awards. Yeah. Yeah. I I mean is it a is it shocking to people that Elton John's gaze one of the most out celebrities in the history. It's it's kind of you know, he's well known for the way there's something you said in there that you know, who Richard Madden is right. No, you don't know. I am going to go to this movie on opening night. Really? And and you know, who will be sitting on my right? We'll be lease Ireland in my left will be Michelle Beedle away. Richard Madden is rob stop stark. Yeah. My wife in both love Robb stark. Wow. And so they are going to be bent, both Lisa and Michelle will be bent that the. With Richard Madden was cut. Yeah. Regardless of who use with. I mean, I think. I'm trying to remember where people were critical of bohemian rhapsody because there wasn't enough gay Stipe. And by the way, I heard that. I heard that critique before I saw I went what are you kidding me? I thought that was I thought it was he Freddie, Mercury was represented as as completely what he was. Yeah. I don't know how many how many more scenes indicating he was gay people would want. But in their make out scenes in bohemian rhapsody guy with guy out. So it it. It's strange to me that they would cut it out. I probably would've left in is it paramount that was insisting on it. Yeah. Paramount cut it. The only thing I think of is if they were trying to get a certain rating that could be it. So like, maybe somebody said to them like if it's NC seventeen or even PG seventeen and you want thirteen or an are. I would think this is an are. Right. And they wanted a PG trying to get a PG thirteen and they said look take that out, and we'll give you actually thirteen that may be I guess in your world. That's your old old world. It does make a difference in your box office. If what your movie is rated doesn't it? Yes, he thirteen movie and make more money than an our broader audience. Yeah. That's my only thought there. Yeah. I personally think they should've left the scene in. I would Richard Madden and turn Anderson. They should've left that in check. And I had no idea Richard man was in that movie. I might have to see that movie three times. Now that is by by wife would leave me for Richard Madden. If he even looked at. Oh, really? Yeah. My marriage no guarantee. Well, are you kidding? Just just no guarantee at all and beetle would leave ESPN if he even looked at her. Right. Would you like to move with me to England gone new host for NBA countdown? Right. All right last one for me in. It's a game. Sean Doolittle who is a pitcher for the Washington nationals is fascinated by old time baseball nicknames. So he tweets the names out on his Twitter account. I have a list of nicknames. Some of these are real that Doolittle tweeted out some of these. I completely made up you guys tell me real or fake, Greg. You can play Jay urine and Masons in. Okay. Here we go number one. Gabby Hartnett old tomato face. Greg, man. Is that real or did I make it up all tomato face for Gabby Hartnett feel like that should be somebody else's nickname. But I'm going to say that's real real Ajay. If you made that up that's a great one. I'm going to say, it's real to okay. Maze. I'm going to say that's fake Mason. I'm sorry old tomato face was indeed. And Gabby Hartnett think that's kind of offensive, isn't it maybe? Well, some of these might be. I'm just warning you in advance. All right. Pierce child's. All right, guys. Name was Pierce child. What's the use? What's the use? This guy would come up, and I hope that I'm really I'm going. What's the use of this guy? That's a great name. I say that's a real one. Greg Al go real pitch. Oh, who's up? What's the use? Offensive mace. No, no, not. No. That's not Steve hardly tennis ball. Head tennis head for Steve awfully Mace. You made that one. All right, Greg. Yeah. I'm going you made that one up Jay made up completely one hundred percent real steam, oddly was tennis ball Hannes fall right here, we go Harry Simpson. Greg Harry Simpson. Hangover hair Harry Simpson. Hangover air real or fake. I'm gonna say this one's made up. All right. Jay. That's a good one. I'll say fake I've may spring time. I am going to also go fake hangover hairs fake, complete his real nickname was suitcase. He played for seventeen years. Wow. All right herald trainer herald trainer Sundays only. Days only training. I'll say may you're going made up made up a Mace. I'm guessing he's a backup catcher, and I will say that's real Gregson Israel to Jay. You're the only correct herald trainer and thought you guys might get this hurled trainers nickname was pied piper trainer. In the hall of fame as a boy, he chased balls for his church team and was paid in baked goods while. So as nickname was pie trainer. All right. We got four more right now. Greg three J three Mason to Johnny Hopp. Johnny Hoppy, Joe p p Mace skipping a jump. I'm going to sit him for chatty. Skipping a jump hop. I'll say that's real. All right. Greg real gay just to be different. I'll say fake glad you were his nickname was hippie. Based around with sixteen five made the World Series called them. Hip hop. Corrales four Bergman three Mason to all. Right. Three more arly Latam the freshest man on earth. Greg the freshest man on earth. Real Jay, I'll say real Mace. I'll say. Real it, Israel, all three. If you got that. I have no idea what it means. Hugh mulcair. He Hugh Mulcahy Mace's nickname was losing pitcher. I am. That's a little on the NAS. I'm going to say that's made up. Okay. Greg. You lose hinge. I hope that was real. And the losing pitcher, by the way, Mason, you're out of it. I'm out. Yeah. J has six Greg five Stephen three the lessons are two and a half, so Greg and Jay you guys will actually Jay you have to go last. No, I ca I and Mason can go last. All right. Johnny dick shot. Johnny dick shot debonair dicta. She even. Demo go at true. All right. Greg L? I only way I can win by saying it's made up. Okay mace. I'll say that is aired dick, ladies and gentlemen. Your winner is Greg Johnny. Dick, shots nickname was ugly. In. He was a night. He was a nineteen thirties outfielder who called himself the ugliest man in baseball. So he had that working against him and his name was Johnny dick shot. Wow. Bergman nicely done done. All right. Tell you take a break come back. We'll do some name that tune. It is who we got is this who's funches that you are you playing. Funchess ventures is coming in. I don't think ever before has Michael funchess played some name that tune here. Michael never never. Well, you already have a better record than most of the tin cans. They bring in here everybody except Morales and Trish, Kinsey. I have a winning record again. What sometimes I play in a back when you guys are playing. How do you do? Beaches. Okay. Well, did you sometimes? But that's you know, I'm not under the gun right now. You're now, you're let's let's see all these songs have something to do with baseball opening day baseball opening day your name as your buzzer. Look. Okay. So if you know it they say your name number one. John, john. My Rolling Stones Rolling Stones. You had it though. Mike did. Yeah. Roma. Soames number start me up appropriate for opening day. Number two. Easy, flashing lights. Kind. Yeah, you're correct. Yeah. It's easy, right. Nick Knaw, flashing lights. Mason meets to hear the word con you. Guy wonderful one to one number three. Twenty five. That was close. Jason's funches. I demand a replay. What do you think? Brunton who is that? All I I'm okay and playing the syndrome that says says playing field, but go ahead. Okay. You to you you guys go back and listen. And then tells you. All right to one funchess HERE IS NUMBER four. Don, Sean Lennon, John, John. And I thought you said, Sean Lennon. Okay. Got it. We are to come centers. Michael. I did on linen. Whatever happens. You've you've been very respect. Thank you. Thank you opening by me back. Well, no, you already you've already qualified for that. Thank you, some of the bozos from sales come in here in Denver even open their mouth, no clue HERE IS NUMBER five. Fun fun fun NAT king Cole. Here's the bad thing. I just went to the NAT king. Cole play. Michael wa case that comes down to the appeal because if I win the appeal I win the game. Did you guys? Listen to it. You have a j. Yeah. I got it. You see who says, okay? I'm ready. Twenty twenty. That was close. Fun you here. I say John right before he says three three. Yeah. You can't hear me. Very clearly. No. You can't John. I think funchess wins John says his name, but funches fun fun fun. And and you know what? Squeaky wheel gets the grease that was good. Not a lot bigger winner. You know winning? You're now you're now third on the win. Your name goes on the wall until I play you again, do I get anything like you, get Abbas nothing. Some. Hey, no, no. You get a Dixie Cup of Charles Shaw wine. This out. Take it's Friday baby prize have fun. You really paid three ninety nine for ninety nine to ninety nine to ninety to me it tastes like the same. As the other show. He got another can of wines again of wine. Also, a simpler wine we should've put the can in the test. The can is to ninety nine also. Wow. So you spent six dollars on wines, six dollars on wine. Actually, right. Went on a wine spree. I know you don't have to spend when you're in a restaurant just pick pick a wine, that's not expensive align. Well, like when you go to a restaurant, and they you know, what I hate. I hate like when they've got one of those guys some name Bulent who comes over. Okay. That. And he's like telling you which goes with what meal it's like, it's it's just snooty to me. Well, now, I I'm telling you, this is a blessing in disguise. You never have to be the guy in the restaurant that orders like the super expensive one. Yes. Correct. All right. I'm trying to figure out where this is from. But it was tweeted out let me see if I can find out a little bit more. It was treated out. By guy named Bill hand stock is it is. I let me see if I could do a little more digging figure out where this might be from. I'm not sure. Okay. So do you remember where you live in here? I think you would just come at you maybe been here four or five years. Yeah. When Mike Piazza was traded. We were on the together to the Florida Marlins. Yeah. Okay. That's that's a very weird story. Do you? Remember that day? We were doing the show for Fox Sports west too. And we have created because the dodgers were starting at TV network there. And we happen to have as a guest Christopher cross. And we ended up showing Mike Piazza highlights while Christopher cross saying say ling- sailing away. Do you not don't? Oh, yeah. I remember players day. What do you remember who who came in the trade? Gee, biggest name in the trade coming from the Marlins to the dodgers was who do you? Remember? I remember this wasn't a Gary Sheffield wasn't Gary Sheffield and Charles Johnson Charleston for sure. Drake. Cantat zeal confirmed that I'm right? I'm pretty sure Sheffield was in that trade. So there's a new book out, and apparently Sheffield was on the phone with these guys. And remember that Pia was traded against the wishes of Fred Claire who was the dodgers room. Peter Guber the television exec because remember FOX on the dodgers had a directive. Young Gary Sheffield, Bobby Baena, Charles Johnson, Jim Eisenreich in men. Well barrios, but the jewel of that trade for the dodgers was Sheffield, right? Won a World Series in Florida. He at this point. He had remember he'd transformed his career in San Diego. He started in Milwaukee. He went to San Diego and became an all star. Right. Then he went to Florida. So he is included in this dodger trade, and that's the main guy they're getting and trading. So is probably the most unpopular baseball training ever dating. Like got blistered on that thing. You know, Fred Clarie ended up leaving over it. Yeah. Because remember he he said he said some reporter called him and goes, I hear your trading. Gotcha. To the Marlins and Fred said if that's true there's going to be two announcements. Yep. That trade and me leaving as general manager. Which is exactly what happened. Peter Guber cut the deal above Fred Clair's head. Yup. All right. So here's Sheffield's version of that story. I said t's talking to the dodgers, Nikki mind. This is the main reason Guber is doing this is financial. Yeah. Piazza was asking for so much money at the time. They they were trying to get TV rights squared away. They they felt like they couldn't pay pizza and make it work. They didn't want to give one guy at the time. Was it Peter Gruber? No, no, not Peter. Did I say Peter Guber, Peter Peter I take that with the FOX people eater churn heater churn. Exact not couvert Guber is the guy who now owns the dodgers and also cones the war. Yeah. So I'm sorry. Peter for screwing that up Peter churn was the guy who was working as the as Rupert Murdoch's number one at FOX. Wchs him and chase. Carey were working at FOX and Peter churn cut this deal. So Sheffield says this is his version that apparently just came out recently. I said I you got to write me a check for six million. Then you've got to buy me a house where three million then you gotta pay my California taxes up to one million. And then I'll sign that sheet of paper because he had a no trade clause. Right. That changed the mood in the room. They said we never saw that coming in Sheffield to why number saw this trade coming because he's limited Florida with no state. Yeah. Right. They told me that this kind of thing had never been done before. And they didn't even think they were allowed to do that. I didn't budge. I said whatever you gotta do to structure my contract. That's what's going to have to happen or I get my blank asked back on the plane and go right back to where I was they left the room and we're gone for about thirty minutes. Now, it's two o'clock and a game is inching closer the dodgers called the Marlins to tell them about what happened. And now the Marlins were pissed they were about to start a series against the cardinals. I got on the phone with Marlins manage it. I said f you guys I'm catching the Knicks flight out. And I'll see you in Saint Louis. They said, oh, no, no. We got this trade approved. And I said, no, no, no. You don't have blank. I have a no trade clause. And I'm using it. They were like, wait. What will will? Let's figure it out. And he got everything he wanted why? Because once they had pizza moved. They couldn't run the risk of saying. No, no, no. Because that was the whole key to the Marlins. Sure Martin has never had a deal to send the Mets. Yup. Key stayed in in Florida for less than a month. Yep. That's right. And and then he went to the Mets in two years in the midst of the World Series wins to the Mets for nothing. Yeah. Marlins. Got basically not a name that I recognized. They were the Marlins have blown that team up three times. And this is the only one who World Series. This is the third time. They've done it. Yeah. With this thing under jeeter. But that's fascinating from Sheffield. Yeah. That he's like, Nope. Not doing it. I got a no trade clause him. You know, the other thing that was weird. That day was that. I don't know anyone who thought peanuts should have been traded not one person like came sort of out of the blue remember, right? And so much that Fred cler who had been with the dodgers memory started as their PR guy. Yeah. And had been like a twenty plus year career, and they they left him out of the loop. He was then even tell him. No. That was an ownership dump. Right. And and it was all about that FOX had just bought the team from Peter O'Malley. And that was the first sign that this is no longer a family run team that you know, and then FOX sold the team to to Frank McCord. Yeah. And got him worse. Got even worse. You know? I was thinking the other day to what you were asking that question when we were at the restaurant, what percentage of dodger fans are happy with management. How is that? Not one hundred percent. They know what the other half looks like they know what it was like when Frank McCord owned the team say what you want about the dodgers being unable to win the World Series. They've won six straight division titles. They've gone to two World Series in a row. It's a crapshoot once the playoffs start and they've gotten to. Yeah. They've gotten to the World Series. They may go again, I may make it again. You know, they're the odds on favorite to go back to the World Series. The thing about the diet. I'm not mad at management. I mad at Kershaw for blown a four run lead in Houston. The the thing about the dodgers is that they are. I heard somebody say, oh, there's a Kershaw wind. There's no Kershaw window. There's not a Kershaw window that does not exist. Well, ninety more. There was one the window is wide open for the dodgers. If you go through their lineup, and you look at young guys like, Cory Seager? And Cody Bellinger, Mace what the cursor would refers to is if a pitcher is. In his prime. He can one guy can win your World Series, Madison. Bumgarner did it multiple times at the giants. Josh beckett. Did it one year for the Marlins? They're in in baseball history. Orel Hershiser did it for the dodgers in eighty eight. Yep. One elite starting pitcher can put a team on its back and carry him to a title when Kershaw was in his prime. He probably could have done that. But what we've learned over the past two World Series is he's not that guy anymore. No, he's not if they're going to have to do it by committee or Walker Buehler's going to have to get to his window early. And be the guy that does that they've got enough starting pitching now to win the World Series. I mean, you know, they are they're going at it without two of their five primary starting pitchers chicken strip today. Kenta my ADA, then you've got Walker. Bueller pitching on Sunday. And Julio reas who I there was what if what if reaced pops? Think about that. That's a problem us as workload issue. Yeah. But wait a minute think I just think playoffs. Okay. Assume that we're both right. And they're going to win the division and assume for the sake of this question that they handle the workload properly. Everybody's ready to go in October. You conceivably could have a stretch of games where you could have. Reu- pitching like he did yesterday. But I you would go bueller Kershaw hill, reu-, Oreos and. And you would you would you wouldn't even have more options. Get my ADA you'd have. I mean, they they could be really deep. I mean, they have Joe Kelley, they'd have Janssen, right? It could go into the plans better positioned at pitcher than they ever been. And the one thing I'll say, Greg. I thought last year that Julio reassess in the playoffs was fantastic. He was amazing in the playoffs. I don't think they're going to give him that chance to be in the rotation. Most of this year. Yeah, I'm expecting him to when Kershaw gets. Well, when when Richaud gets well, I think he shifts to the bullpen because I don't think they want to wear him down. He still what twenty or twenty one twenty two. I believe in. I mean, he's coming off a shoulder to shoulder surgery. Still just from that last year. He just came back in September of dodgers lineup is now yet for tonight, they're facing lefty. Robbie Ray I'm guessing HA Pollock moves to the leadoff spot. Reaganite? Yeah. I'm guessing Pollock Seger Turner, threes informatics Muncie, but only in the four spot. Probably Bellinger moves up lefty lefty freeze. His Bellinger key. K Chris Taylor in for jock in Russell Martin in frost and Kika being in that fourth spot. I totally can't see in the forced by him in the clean up. Spot a lot by the way pointed clarification that thing I read from was a player's Tribune article that Sheffield wrote a couple years ago. But that I'd never just never heard it before. Have you looked at Gary Sheffield's numbers? They are fantastic. Oh, yeah. Especially with the dodgers. He was amazing with the dodgers just alone. He had over three hundred home runs or what is it? No. He had one hundred and twenty nine home runs. Three hundred sixty seven Rb is a thousand PS he has over five hundred home runs for his career. He's not in hall of fame. I don't see on the ballot. I mean, he's been gone for quite some time. Now, probably not even anymore. He would people didn't really like him because of the story. John was saying. Yeah. That's an old player. She mean, an article that's fascinating. That. That Sheffield wrote about how did I never know that field is on the ballot. But he's only at eleven percent. Boy, what does the guy have to do. How many career homers five hundred nine? I think he might get in one day six eighty nine hits. So he's not I know seven career oh PS two ninety two career batting average almost lying hundred on base. He only at eleven percent because he was an angry guy and people didn't like him. Yeah. But those numbers will hold up over time. I he I saw him carry teams for like a month at a time. Oh, he was. I was a TV reporter in San Diego when he hit third and Fred McGriff hit fourth who is cousin and those guys get hot at the same time and they'd go on like ten or eleven days streaks when you're they finished top three in in MVP voting in the same year. And I don't think he don't wanna won it. I think I think like one of those bonds wanted or, you know, something, but they were really good. Yes. Sheffield's not gonna make it. He was at thirteen percent. Two years ago. He was at eleven percent this year. Four the steroid era. I mean, it's or maybe like right around there. Never. There was never any link between him and now form an Sanson drugs. I don't quite know why it's not inconsideration five hundred career home. Just BUSTER Nixon we. Yeah. Reach out to BUSTER. Hopefully, we can start with BUSTER next week. Yeah. I did. He hasn't gotten back me. All right coming up next. It's happening again. Purgatory or go, Tori. I saw George here. He was here. Earlier swilling wine. He knew he claims he could tell the wine right away. Tell this one right because he's a snooty. I'm on. I I'm an ESPN sideline reporter snooty. So George will bring in here next Mason in Ireland ESPN LA ID SPN LA, so many many people have tweeted us that Sheffield was tied to belco. Probably only has eleven newly big way. So that's why he's gonna fall off the hall of fame ballot. He was eleven so disappointed in you to still this wind over the white. So you're big wino-. I am I'm I'm more of a whiskey guy. I'll drink wine like the rest of the table is drinking wine. But at my house, my wife drinks almost exclusively white. Okay. My wife drinks, white you, but I drink reds. I'm more. I'm more of an Indika guy. Yeah. Yeah. Me too. Me too. I like indicative if you're over talking about we had a wine tasting earlier than your and Mason bought a three dollar bottle of wine and Michael bought one hundred seventy five dollar bottle of wine. Michael refused to even taste the three dollar one trash based, but George tasted. And he said he could tell the difference right away. Mason. And I thought they both tasted the same. You actually liked the Jeep model better nag to media bottles as said the same. You're listening to Caspian Los Angeles. Yeah. I've just never that. I'm not a red wine guy. Do you ever? Go wine tasting of that whole routine have never met. I have done it. I'm sure you do not do regularly. But I have done it. Yes, you. Yeah. I I've never done that. I want have you gone cannabis tasting on. No, I because I'm too lazy? Good up off the couch after that after that first hit person. It's like oh. By the way. I am with you. You can be high after one hit. Yesterday can be yeah horse. But you don't have to be it just depends on how strong it is that you're gonna win. It is exactly. So yeah. Are you drunk now? Not. Neither I told John awhile ago. I said I I got virtually nothing today. But here's the thing. Just I just. You told me that you've seen the movie screwball? Yes. Yes. Genesis pick. Yeah. And okay. So I was trying to explain to somebody. I had that in fasttrack earlier in the week. And I was trying to explain to somebody how he uses young kids as actors to play the people that were in that scandal the by scandals and it works. Yeah. So do you try and explain it better than I can. So it's a picture about a documentary about all the stuff that happened with biogenesis. And what happened was Billy Corbett who's the director who directed cocaine Cowboys and like three different thirty yards. He he told I remember having this conversation with the beginning. He's like I came across all these characters. Right. When I was interviewing them, and I said to myself, this is so cartoonish that no one would believe it. So he's like, obviously, I couldn't get footage from a rod of these guys. So he's like it's already kind of cartoonish in the way, they're describing everything that happened. I think I'm gonna just use child actors, and he did he. Found this kid that looks just like a Riley as but a kid version and all these different characters are played by any talk about is that the one with bully. Yes. That's for sure. Right here was the context in which I brought it up in fasttrack. Yeah. A rod has had a comeback of almost like no other ever he persona non grata in New York. He was percent of non grata in baseball. Once he admitted he cheated he his reputation like a lot of these stirred guys went out the window. But now look at him. Yeah. He is broadcasting in two different network, right? He's the only guy doing that. Yeah. He's pretty much a guest on every morning show whenever they need somebody big. He's marrying Jennifer Lopez. Everything is going, right and asked Mason the question if this documentary revisits all that old stuff and makes them look bad. Could he fall back again? I haven't seen it. You'll have I think Alex is too smart for that. Now, I think he can just kind of laugh it off. And just say like, yeah, it was very childish about that. And just actually use the right? You know, what I mean like us the pun that they use in the movie and blow it off. I think that he'll he would he will play that. Right moving. I think the the getting with J lo thing has been one of the big big factors in a rod to start broadcasting because you're right when he got on FOX and people saw he was not only excellent at the baseball stuff. Which look I'm not surprised. He's a huge baseball bird. Okay. But that he had a personality. I think that that opened things up. And then, of course, the jaylo thing takes you to a different stratosphere from pop culture sample. Yes. And good for him, man. Yeah. I'd say I say I like, Alex. I've always gotten along with there is always a road. Well. Finding a road back can be difficult. He found a roadbed. So Mason admitted that he made mistakes he's made a cool pulled after the fact, you know, it's not it's not high crimes that he's involved in the dodgers have just released their lineup and AJ Pollick. Is not leading off Mason. Do you? Are you looking at it? Yeah. Sure. Yeah. Sure. Anything yet? Okay. Yeah. Well, KiKi who had two home runs yesterday. Right. So jock is out of the lineup today. Right. Yup. They flipped Chris Taylor in and they flipped Russell Martin for Austin Barnes clipped, Austin Barnes for Russell, Mark. Right. And they flipped. David freeze for max Muncie. Okay. So I it at home runs out. Okay. Well, but I'm just saying Peterson to he's out, right? Right. Awesome. Barnes hit one. He's out right. Who is you just said another is. Those are the three. Yeah. And then the other but the other guys like Bellinger and Seger. They deserve every day at bat. Yeah. And and I think they're going to get them. I think they've established that they want Cody Bellinger to be an everyday player that was what what Cody wants to. And we'll find out like tonight's a good test. Robbie Ray is a really good left-hander who has given the dodgers problems in the past. We'll see what these guys look like against left handers. Like, I understand Muncie and freeze. They're gonna flip all year long. Right. Same thing with Taylor in jock. I don't know what exactly doing with Russell Martin and Austin Barnes since they're both right handed and they're going to establish. Russell Martin as chicken strips catcher, or whatever they're going to do a how they're going to divvy that up did that nickname catch on chicken strip chicken strip. All. Yeah. Matter of fact, when he when they had the nickname weaken last year. That's what he put it in the back of a shortcut. Okay. Who doesn't love that name? I think it's fantastic. But it's it's kind of like when you and I were talking about that happy hour every hour thing like that. That's the thing that's still being pushed. But it just hasn't caught on, you know, it's still being pushed. Yeah. And I think it's developing. Yeah. It's a. Developing thing, and John what do you think? Happy hour every hour. Do you like that trashy just going along to get along? Yeah. This is stuff. You're not a fan of that. I personally I love it. 'cause menas on the on the voice over I'm a fan of it catching on. Yeah. Me too. I wanted to Kemi to hasn't really ignited yet. I'm rooting for. Yeah. By the way, George you notice that you and Mason have fallen out of the leave. I know. Eski racket pool for Tennessee killed me essay. I wanted to punch. Rick Barnes and the Tennessee in the final dead, Oregon, almost almost mess you up. They almost pulled that off Virginia. My my final four is still alive. That's like the battle Michigan that loud crash. You heard was my bracket falling to the Grandi will crash Purdue doesn't make the final four. He's got Purdue going all the way to the fun. But if they do he probably wins it. She's no one else. It gets there. Andy will win. Yeah. Yeah. But you see that kid hitting threes. For Purdue at the end line. He was shot. I tweeted if he wins this with the three he's gotta change his name to Jimmy Chitwood. I mean, he wasn't even hitting the rim on everything's always wish wed on and guys draped all over him too. It wasn't like he was hitting wide open that funky Jamaal Wilkes release. But the first game I'm trying to figure out what the first game is time is Dukan. That's the only one four forty four. I no a select board. Yeah. Yeah. Six hundred forty all over Duke, those that's the team where I know players well three right Zion, Zion barium radiation. And here's the order LSU. Michigan state at four. Now, we do in these again, Georgia you only on for an hour did hell know, we're doing whole show today. Today's we have today. Well, that's right. Okay. And then Auburn North Carolina at four thirty then Virginia Tech Duke at six thirty in the last game is Houston Kentucky, which I think is going to be really close. Houston's Houston's thirty three in three Yemen. That's Kelvin Sampson. Right. Yep. Former Oklahoma coach, and he goes to the NBA for a while to by the way, the lines on those games. Go ahead. We now talk about gambling. Michigan state is a six point favorite over LSU. Duke is a seven point favorite over vodka tech. Houston is actually Kentucky is a two point favorite over Houston. Only a two point favorite. Yeah. Well, they've got one of their best players something or other is dinged up. I, you know, I'm a big fan of PD J seven around. I think he may be a lottery pick and Carolina is a five and a half point favorite. They're gonna they're covering that. They overwhelmingly I put ten thousand mythical dollars on Duke, minus two seven, you know, why you're saying because they just narrowly escaped so they, you know, free their player home. That's why. All right. How you guys doing on the mythical money lately? Bergman's winning really, but he came in last last year. So now, he's any put everything on the patriot. And the sue bet against the Rams so and now he's in under he doesn't know how to act in first place. So he's just stopped making beds. That's not true. I have been that are long-term. That's and I've been on Virginia Tech tonight term vets are because you wanna just milk. The lead is what's because. About college basketball the bed on it. On location. Reddish barrett. How how long how long have you known me Bergman eight years easily longer to that? Yeah. Longer than Carolina, minus two five and a half. Today puts a mythical money on it. I'm telling you right five km airline, mice five. There you go that easy. How taking advice from Sodano? Why like Carolina tonight five thousand dollars if I lose. No, I loved you Duke should've lost last week. You know that you that's the thing. I always think once you have the close call. That's when you get a chance, then you breathe easier for sure you're you're already survived. Once you're survived. One of those like I thought Virginia in the first game essentially survived. They were down like twenty in the first half. And in the second game. They were down twelve in the first, right? They've they've seen it. All. Yeah. Virginia's going to the championship game. But hey, when we come back, let's get into mcmenamin article with Saddam. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Purgatory chapter two next. Let's espionage. But after after it, she was an American Girl. Her name was Momo. Yeah. Wow. Those that was so loud in my ear right now. The purgatory bell. So Momo now joins us you you you always come in for the second half of purgatory. Yeah, I feel like you guys get paid extra for that. And I don't really don't don't get paid. You definitely need to work on that. We do. June. Twenty ninth is the last show ever. June thirtieth when you're done. Yep. Yes. That's the end the running clock. That's the end tick tick tick tick. Count them down. Oh, I'm in a good mood. Are you guys in a good mood? Why not? I got ten minutes show left. Baseball baseball. Baseball makes me happy. Eight home runs enough for home runs. Yup. I am. So I just drove by the stadium. I got stuck in some of the stadium traffic night's game. It was so happy Dodger Stadium is alive. Again baseball. Heaven. Yeah. I could hear the song. Like it's a beautiful day for a ballgame. I could hear it just puts me in. Well, it beats talking about the Lakers situation. Let's face. It. Does. Afternoon off. Yeah. I, you know, the the one thing I think the Lakers will be glad when Gers takeover the Fred tounge. Right. Because there's just nothing you can say about the Lakers other than the season was a disappointment. And they got to fix it. And Dave mcmenamin chronicle that today. Boy, David minimum really laid it out. Didn't he Ramona? What's your take on the zoo bots trade what I tried to explain what the Lakers were thinking? But why did they pull the trigger? Okay. So the version I've heard is that there were some analytics types who said, you know, this team really plays better with a stretch five. And then there was a search for stretch fives. Who might be available. Mus Scala is a good basketball player who fits that description. And the Lakers went looking for a stretch actually was worth simple net. I heard that they realized they were looking at their numbers for the summer. Yeah. And they could not pay what the going rate. Would become for zoo bonds. So then they had to make a decision is it worth keeping him on our roster for two more months in a season. We're not gonna make the playoffs or should we add ish? How much zoo boxes may one five this year next year? It doesn't matter. How much is it going to make? Well, no, he's unrestricted. No, he's not. I thought he was. Right now. He's restricted right. He's restricted. I mean, what's the market for? That's what you say afterwards. Right. Maybe I think that's what you say. That's like part of the reason why you can say, yeah. We feel good about this kind of a trade, but they weren't looking to unload zoo Bosch they were still trying to win at the trade deadline. They were still try. They still thought they were in planning the cultures were not interested in zoo Botts, or at least had not called on them. The part that bothers me is clippers consultant Jerry West got together for dinner with old friends who also at former Laker ties. He couldn't believe how zoo bots fell into his lap. The clipper sources said they never even called the Lakers to inquire about sue box. The Lakers made the offer in the clippers gladly expected accepted sources said those at the dinner table shared a hearty laugh at the Lakers expense. Yeah. There's a lot of that going on. Yeah. Way in part of it actually in clipper land. I mean, oh sure, you know, like, Jerry West is a Laker. I mean, he is you know, was the general manager here for a long time with the Lakers. And I know there was an interest in returning to that type of position with the Lakers win genie fire, Jim and Mitch. Yup. And that was the moment right there. Yeah. She could have gone with Jerry West or some of the other candidates, some of the other ideas. But the Magic Johnson was kind of always the choice with the best way to explain that. As you can't have magic. And Jerry because they're both ALPHA's. You gotta they would neither one would accept the secondary role. So even if Jerry was just a consultant yesterday consultancy a big oppressed. He does he does he have the say at the with the clippers to see calling the shots. Let me put it this way. What guys when Phil Jackson was hired to be the coach right because Dr bus wondering him to be the coach forgive me, the doesn't wind burp. Yeah. That was that was one of the. They had wine tasting. I heard a little of that three dollar bottle truck. They'd like to but Chuck more as a good stuff. I was so disappointed. But so thing that's nudie Mace. Think about this for those who say that he could just hang around anyway. And be as Georgie put it a consultant when Jerry caught wind that fill in gene were dating he left and everybody went what you why are you leaving your your Phil's boss, and he said not anymore. Well, why did Jerry West coexist with the with Meyer dot Myers? Well, I think who had final say he bobbed never has final say. So one person that I saw say, yeah. Yeah. It's like okay show. Linkup is one of the most involved owners the history with the T. So who's got final say with the clippers is Jerry West. It's Lawrence Franco. It's bomber bomber. Yeah. I mean, I think okay. Here's how I would describe the clippers Jerry West is bombers consultant that make sense like Jerry is around and available. Whatever. And this is how deals go that Michael winger, and and all the guys in the front office in Lawrence Frank, and and it in some degree dock. They still consult with doc, right? Do all the day to day stuff. And whenever they're about to make a big deal. They take two bomber. And bomber goes to Jerry West and says, would you do this? Yeah. That's right. And Jerry ways in and what I don't know is if Jerry would ever say, I mean, I think Jerry just tells him when he thinks, but if Jerry said, no, I hate that. And all of the basketball people wanted to do it. I don't know what would happen, then I think so far Jerry has has been in lockstep with what the other Momo, you think there was a Momo Momo. Do you think there was a moment? A moment when the Lakers could have brought back west. Yes. Oh, absolutely. And it was the moment at whatnot with magic. No. So it was it was neither it was a choice. Between either Jerry West or magic. Well, I think I've written this somewhere. I can't remember it was one of those articles that was too long eat probably going to aggregate it. Yeah. Put it on your podcast. Yes. The you know when Jeanie Buss wanted to reorganize the basketball operation staff. She sorta she had a few names ideas in mind, and a lot of them are former Laker greats. Kobe was one Jerry West was one Magic Johnson was another even Phil Jackson was kind of in that thought process of like could could that work. But you know, Kobe doesn't want to do that that's to the he has his whole he's making movies. Animation studio. Still under contract with the Knicks. He'd been fired if some something in that kind of a right realm. Okay. He there was still with the Knicks wasn't. He was just fired from the next. And so it was really kind of a choice between magic and Jerry. And I think you have to remember Dr bus told genie and told magic on his deathbed. My dream is one day for you and Jeannie to run the Lakers. Well, I'll take a page. I'll take that a step further. It was very important. There was this division of of jobs with the Lakers. Right. What the doctor bus wanted hit envision? And he put Jim in charger, basketball and genie in charge of business. Ingenious come to conclusion that does not work. We have to be Rony est group with me at the top. We have to involve each other in decisions, and we have to work in conjunction with each other. And once she decided that she desperately needed someone she trusted that would communicate with her. And that was magic genie. Of course knows Jerry and respects him. But doesn't have that relationship that she has magic magic. It's her age. They've been friends since they were twenty. Yeah. Since then. Goes this is a guy who I trust in an who knows basketball, and he's going to keep me in the loop 'cause Rhona comment on this. I don't think she could have been more out of the loop when Mitch and Jim website like she there is the to the point where I had Byron Scott quoted in a story subsequent story saying I had a personal relationship with Gina was friends with genie. But I wouldn't I felt like if I went and talked to her when I was coach of the Lakers that Jim and Mitch get mad at me that I was being disloyal to them. That's the division. That's how Steve and distrust about division. We should earlier will we know if the magic rob Pelinka era is successful by July the fifth to be the twelfth could be the twelfth. Yeah. I know we're going to have a really good idea. But I think it's going to drag out like that. I think you know, you look at last year hardly lashing. Through the first week. It's not like baseball where last three months till Bryce Harper sense. That's basketball happens really happens. But there's also trades to end. The Durant domino has to be the first right now. Yeah. And he might he might go on a recruiting tour. Some of it kind of depends on who the the biggest like what you say. Domino to fall is. Right. Did you think Durant Durant? First domino. Yeah. I mean, sometimes they, you know, they take three or four days to meet with all the teams rant coli Cairo's second in that conversation that he's a big domino domino. Yeah. These the key to a lot of it. Yeah. He's the key. Yeah. Key to a lot of it for the Lakers while and for the Knicks and for the Celtics exact all of them. Yeah. Yeah. Well, we're gonna find out. 'cause you're gonna bite somewhere two buck. Chuck. I mean, clearly, you don't need to buy came as I'm not fine the campus may both thought that the two buck Chuck was wine. Yeah. What's the difference Willis swell now? Yes. Willis world. You know, I'm not mad anymore. Ramona disappointed in them. I'm not disappoint. I understand that. I mean, look, you're one of those ivory tower elites. Convinced that we could switch wine on him through the dinner and. So if you go to Europe, and you like sit down at a table, they just they're like, do you want the house wine? Yes. Yes. Always you know, what it is. It's like the house one in Europe is definitely not good in the house while the house dare you disrespect Charles Charles Shaw, Charles Shaw, show family, and I will just become here's blood feud from your on what happens with me and wind tonight. Already seem a little sleepy less are yellow vet less than an hour. How much money would it have to pay you to get you to go to the Lakers game tonight and stay until the final buzzer. Oh, man. Who I how about this? Out of money. How much how much we does? He have to give you could use the money to buy weed. How what's it worth to you? It's worth about five thousand dollars real money or mythical money. Oh money. I'm so tempted to do it just because he he might turn it down. If I do it. He might I he would have tried to go home and watch the dodgers now. And he's already got it in his head. You're one of the few that came maybe I'll do it. Maybe I'll do a Kickstarter make Mason go to the Laker game five this time of year on Friday. Death March playing somebody could playing Charlotte. So like, that's probably not gonna get you there right on Kimball. Walker? He could he's starting to be the locker could be our next third level free agent. Yeah. Yeah. Could be our third Sarah guy. I actually I think that's a name. We should start talking about Jimmy Jimmy Butler is one I'm hearing Jimmy Butler Kimball. Walker come on down gather again together for the first time. It's time for you to go home. It is time. I'm I'm ready. Yeah. I came in today said I've got nothing. I listened to parts of the show was fine. John. Carey do. But it's okay. For parts of the US admitted that you had nothing today. I said nothing. Yeah. I got enough stuff. I'm happy because baseball is here. It's spring. It's beautiful. There you go. Jeff for you. All right. Excellent. That's all coming up who else is stop and Billy Corbin stopping by Greenberg. Yeah. Cool and Dave mcmenamin with story today. Oh, yeah. Dukes on tonight. Yeah. Zion. U R J R J Cam. We we might as well just do a stager here because we're way over the break. Yeah. That's bonus time for you. Yeah. All right. Stories over Momo, and George and a bunch of other stuff coming up next Monday at noon, ESPN light.

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A Day Full of Prem

ESPN FC

20:25 min | 1 year ago

A Day Full of Prem

"Welcome to a very special edition of the ESPN NFC podcast will be going all over the big results from across Europe Julianne on Laurent's but I it's Don Hutchison breaking down a busy day in the primary leak as promised. I've got my usual partner in Crime Don Hutchison here joining me. Let's talk about everything that happened. In the primarily today on Saturday starting with Liverpool now they were welcomed by newly promoted Sheffield to Bramall Lane today and you the blaze did not make it easy for the European champions that goal many would says lucky so. Can we say this was a lucky win for the right to look you in the Don Dhabi Sheffield Liverpool little too much. I knew because I've played it. It probably many a time Sheffield united. I forecast that this would be a hostile place for livable succumb. The atmosphere inside the stadium Alexis was amazing. I'll absolutely driving pouring rain. The wind was coming in from all angles any advantage. Sheffield's not Chris Wallace could get against. It's Liverpool were so if they were taken advantage of they played. I have to say some brilliant football. They opened up Liverpool two or three times. Liverpool probably over. The piece created the chances but this was not north easy work well. You'RE GONNA stop after the match said you know what he didn't care that. It wasn't pretty at the end came up with three points. That's exactly what they need us exactly what they wanted on. They marched so some would say that. This is what the champions are. title-winning side are made of so. Is this kind of a little bit of writing on the wall well. It's looking that way. I mean you know oh it felt I felt so it was so cruel and Dean Henderson letting that goal in because he was magnificent was the genie bottle on strike from distance and you hit it what are known for not one of these cleanest goalkeeper made a bad area but then pulled off. Some big saves but you're right. I think when Liverpool if they look back and hold the title of the season look at some of these results in general we have to Chelsea last week. We had the ground up result. We did exactly Prom Elaine. Well like you said that. Sheffield did definitely open up. Liverpool beaten exposed certain areas. They may want to work on it. What were some of those areas the areas where it was planning to see it was almost like source like Christie Waller Sheffield United we use in Liverpool's best weapons against them and they targeted Andy Robinson down the left hand side and they talked to Trent downright inside and basically changed tactics. Well Christy. Wall is an an an amazing tactician and what he was doing. He's basically not on purpose but every time livable we'll have the ball high blood the higher the pitch he knew that full box would be an advanced positions so every time. Sheffield ignored in particular they hit diagonal balls. Dan The aside the two center offs and the twenty minutes which really shouldn't against only McBurney runs down that side and likewise a little bit not so much with vigil Vandyke on that side but they were stool trouble in the tactics. Were amazing to watch Chris WADA's men well slightly off day for Liverpool but they came through with a three points. I could say slightly off day for Manchester City in in that sense but that would take away. I think from Everton in their match they of course even though that Everton went down this one perhaps the toughest. They did give city a run for their money in this one yeah well. It's like the plane forever and watching the atmosphere's whenever best Alexis they play with emotion whenever you talk about Goodison Park. What's it like playing now. What did I lead the side in the dressing room beforehand you feed off when you use the emotion of the funds and whenever they can outplay anyone by plane so slow tempo football never works. I've gotTA play high intensity football all and at one point one point took the game against two months city and plates kraken stuff exactly because I think we could talk about cities defense again being a bit of a weaker points in this one because as good a going forward. Everton definitely had a couple of chances. They could have buried yeah. Absolutely some chances doesn't look like Finan Dino. Dana are the answer if you're going to go from league or championship titles well so there'll be there'll be rushing through the locks of. Johnstone's an under the port. Try and get back as quick as possible. They're missing someone live and sent company. It's almost like you know. If you're an opposition play you can get automated. You can wind him up and you can get him on a yellow card like really really easy then you wind up a couple times during the game. He's vulnerable to a red has learned that position you know he's a central midfield plan by trade. ECON played fight. Opposition personnel is Forte's. Not The quickest anymore reads the game well and improved. I if you are a little bit direct and you play high tempo football in the final third you can open them up in area all right well moving on now spurs. I know you were watching that game. It was right whereas against Southampton Southampton took into Liverpool just a couple of weeks ago and they took it. Definitely the Spurs again today in this on your on call in that way of a wild game. I just want to know what was Aria thinking. I've no idea yeah and I don't think he knows that I it was one games where you just privilege to be on comes from from minute one to ninety it was a roller coaster and it was just happening and unfolding in Iran Bryson says Yo Yo Mc the first tackle which could have been a registered as a Taco could easy being read referee so of given benefit that that and give him a yellow then all of a sudden so a lost his head it was all do with the ball potentially being at play and Spurs thought the poll was played but the golden rule is you play to the whistle and all of a sudden at Borgo played him beyond any pulled a thing Brian Burton and it was ludicrous. How naive do you WanNa be cost your side in that moment and the game. What were you thinking. He probably wasn't exactly someone else. Who probably they had a moment of not thinking. Is You reason it's often. It's not often that we actually criticize him on this one because he's usually you're hanging your head coach because I know Oh i'm sure everyone has some dribbling skills. But why was he trying that at that moment basically gifting data equal is put yourself in the position whose closed down Donnie anying Zedong exactly the same to address a couple of weeks ago so you know the goalkeeper more snow is on his own yard line. You can't try to trick there and if you're going to try a trick make sure comes off yet loads of options to the left hand side and it was ludicrous bod professionalism it was it was shocking goalkeeping and it was just terrible to watch because 'cause spokeswoman comfortable at this point in the game so upton started the game the better in ten fifty minutes of the game and at times in the game they will hanging on to gift Saddam to goal when they will play him. Well was just ridiculous from the race. We have a word for that. It's shock a- strategic shock a strategic because only shock is capable of pulling off things that Joe's door shock. We know that you could be very check tastic as well but finally as I've heard lots of people saying especially around here when all seems to be going wrong with spurs on a lot has been going wrong yeah recently one man is always right and that's super hurricane as we'll just call him that because again he came save the day he was very short from minute one and I have to say about the Spurs plas- everyone's been looking at their temperament and character the second off to a man. They were absolutely brilliant. Danna ten men I mean he got pulled us. Some fantastic saves in the second often redeemed himself slightly but I've got to say on a on a professional second off performance and the amount of endeavor especially someone like Sasako played as an emergency right by O'hare went off their work right was phenomenal and if Tottenham play like that with theft jeff quality plays like Eriksson like sawn like hurricane and Lamilla they'll win so many games and that's what you want to see from top to see if they can dig into work hard. Nathan not in the second half wealth well if you didn't know before we're actually stood in. Chelsea and Chelsea happens to be a happy of London right now because the blues are not singing the blues. They got their home win. Frankie lampert brush shoulders off and the clean sheet. Is there any significance to that hotel thing so I think when you look at the starts at seven shots on target to to Brighton's non you you could quite clearly see the pepper and Brian Golan GRANDPA's. Men tried to play good football. I think when when all said and done you look at the performance and it was exactly what frank wanted he wanted to clean clean sheet he wanted a home win in the Perm League and you move on and all of a sudden Chelsea fans will look leaks have tonight. They'll see Chelsea six and that's not about to start the season now a bad. Let's start to the season at auto. We're having about star shows out here. It's been raining this whole time but stopped just as much arrived. I think he had a little talk with a weatherman Mandalay. You did as you do superstar. Thank you so much so we were trying so hard to give you guys the London vibe that it really came true and we try. I too hard because it's absolutely budgeting down with rain as the English say in these parts outside so we had to come inside because Giuliani wants to get his hair white and let's be honest. Nobody wants to see the a drowned Frenchman right too right. That's right all right so let's talk about what's going on around. Europe starting with the Madrid Darby which the end the word that I saw being used snooze fest and other Cagey encounter and another stalemate jewels wasn't as snooze e as everyone made it seem he was a big cage Asia although if you like the tactics and if you like that kind of position you would have you'd have loved is the third nil nil in the last five games between the two Madrid teams again again as you would expect and I think in the end maybe rummage Wedenesday. Dan will be the one with the most regrets because cameraman's Emma has a huge chance fifteen minutes before the end and yellow black puts a wonderful save to deny the Frenchman and to keep the score nil and point who knows at the end of the season might be worth law and I think he dan the difficult decision say these game would be very positive for him because of the way he's team was sorted sorted because chances and because they were almost able to score frothy criticism we give Real Madrid. They're sitting at the top of the table so I guess that's Kudos so that but something else that we we have to talk about now two names. Let's start off with the first one that we have been asking. Where has he been. Where are we going to see is none other than Eden Hazard and you know the boys on the show. Oh had said that if there's a game to really just state that you have arrived and you're here and you're going to be the Eden Hazard that everyone's come to love. It's this one but again went missing but but no yeah it didn't happen for him tonight against who obviously knows him so well. I don't think there was another right bike. In the hall of Lalita who would no so well so in a way was maybe it'd be unfortunate for his arm for such a big game to face someone dies face emerging in the permitting in all those years Tripura defendant defendant so went on him and I think for me. It doesn't really look still. Let's not forget how to didn't even look fit. Truth and fairness has had the preseason disturbed by injury which I don't think help for someone. WHO's already not super keen on fitness and running a large raining and you know that kind of player so it would come for sure but we didn't see enough and we didn't see anything from her tonight. We didn't see enough of him. Even delinquent play with Ben Simmons and you could tell they tried together because obviously do they spend I think a lot of time off the field together so dr relationship will get better be tonight. It was not green from him and and Gareth bed was probably of the two wings remedied the best of the two and and how was subdued of again by the Dan Twenty twenty five minutes before the end. Did you make out from him. I thought it was disappointing again. he's still very young and there's price tag which was quite heavy on his shoulders and I get forgivable. I guess maybe but still not enough from him. In terms of his movement off the ball blame between the lines at ourselves second striker secondhand benign. He's relationship with Diego. Costa is good enough. They don't on financial now if they don't play with each other enough and he had you had one good show in the first half again. I don't think that's enough for all the money pay it would come again like as there's no doubt that the John Day born again this is disappointing well moving onto Real Madrid's other rivals Barcelona. They seem to be getting it back. Another another winter Dan I win without messy so pretty significant there yeah no. We're not fade away from home as well which we we know. When we've we've talked enough about how hard they found going away Kalita from home from the season to do this season it was Ed Games without a win away and hit off as an easy place to go to their when they did the job travis called old away from home as well. She's and and good for him. Talk about going waiting terrorists. Stay good with an assist as well. I mean we saw our runs. During the premier emily glass weekend having an assist with boomers and this time he's test digging. I'm not sure mentor take it. We'll take it with his left foot but I think again assist as you think. Vulgarity is not the right amount for that team Mutola for that club however soclean sheets as well. You don't concede. Suarez goes away you win away. I thought the Alto and the young commissioned midfielder were quite well in that game where they control the game so there was there were positives again and in terms of content. I don't think it's enough from Boston. Lana all right. We'll have to rush through Barcelona because this is what I want to finally talk to you about again. Let's talk about your hometown team. PS. She another win and a win on the back of brilliance again from a certain Neymar and I mean of course he was assisted by Kilian Mbappe super-sub. It was something that one of course we know that he's not always going to be a sub knowing the class of him but name Oregon third game winner in four just he's he. I mean we should probably criticized. I decided more than for these performances your breathtaking how he's turn everything wrong amount of time because the pressure hard on on his shoulders coming back from this incredible summer where he did everything to leave to go back to celona became public enemy number one exactly the fans were not ready to forgive him really you remember remember the inserted him they had banners against him and his family and yet in the space of twenty days. Maybe he's done everything run completely with with a winner no spectacular as the one against hospital fire Keith or even the one where he would reprise in the box score that one but yet let winner again for one again and the other news as you said coming back from injury game since the end of August and as soon as he came on it was the spark it was something different he was full of energy wanted to all the time he created differences. He made he obviously made the goal as you said that you could have even incentive the other couple so Greenwich Ferraris before the Champions League and more big begins to come but he was again Audubon they mine. He's redemption. How do you see these two guessing along bopanna Japan of course Neymar for the rest of the season because we know off the pitch we have seen I think which has been Kudos Zimbabwe at least on social media you know bringing Neymar in his pictures and showing that everything's things are right. We must embrace him and of course if there's anyone that's going to move the fans over. It probably would be embarrassed. How do you see the significance of this partnership. I'm so glad you sort of you mentioned because my piece on ESPN AFC coming tomorrow plug easy easy yeah because there's a lot of there's a lot of sense from the club from name said if he's happy again the high in his hair like you know what I'm here might as well do my base. There's a lot of people I really liking this club in this team including an marchal variety as well spend a lot of time together and I think you can see the happinesses bike in him which which is great relationship between by and Neymar for what we can see and also what we being told off the field and and you know and and in in private private private environments is quite incredible special thing that's what maybe can lead to things this season so much from from those to imagine that Neymar mature something that we definitely we're not talking about the stars of this. Let's move over now to talk about intimate land because they are definitely flying in the city. Ah but Alexi Sanchez he was involved in a whole lot of everything. Today wasn't any jewels yes to sixty six for winter in the league their the best is the sixty six sixty seven season which is now when you were born. United Kotei. Oh let's check can get back to you and you only started ahead of Lukaku. WHO's on the probably more in terms of retaliation from content and anything else you could tell that Alexis was full of energy full of desire to do well. He was involved in the first goal scored buster. Ascendancy is called the second goal himself quite an amazing story considering thing for example how long it took him to school much united and already the impact is how to enter and then obviously ego sent because accenture doesn't do anything like other people. you know. We like to do things big. Su- guys thank you enough before the red cards of him being able to to bring something to that team for show and on your who's who is the master in terms of re making your player reborn if you own and nothing the Kunti Sanchez partnership will work well now for inter it's all about what's coming next. Barcelona in Midweek in the champions and then the big one against you've entered the weekend. Well you mentioned of course that. This is the best start since the sixty six sixty seven season and for so long we have been talking about. When are we going to see a proper team to push event us to the very last based on unpredictable city. Is this the best chance now. Can this team really go all the way yeah I think so and I think we we so of expected it before this holiday season. I think a lot of pundits were saying I this is the team without manager who can push us. All the way can compete with them and can maybe every winter time for the first time in eight years now. Since since you started incredible run of of of winning Sarah and the first few games have been good. Ah said he's six hundred six but not is one against your mentors and dust the only one where we know exactly what this team is made of and how far they can go because if they bu inventor's next weekend even if the drove the coast trouble if you know whatever how game goes we will know a bit more about how much inter can can push you into this season all right. We'll finally we have to talk about someone. You know quite well. Hugo the research into some Don Hutchison and I just spoke about this and Don and had to hang his head in almost shame thinking of what on Earth Lurie's was thinking of doing in the match between Spurs and Southampton. Have you texted him. Have you said may what's going to be with him. You need to wait because I know exactly. How are we feeling right now and I see him on Monday as well so I might not even take tomorrow or just keep a low profile and in a Monday speech like Henry Fonda with him. I know he's better with his hand with his wishing forego keeper deeper. Let's be honest is better still. I don't know why he was thinking on the piece of I don't even our record it in front of things but he got caught gift today to give to give them to give to the world of football because everybody's laughing you go your race whose World Cup winner. Let's Eh Cup so please respect however he's made those before I think this is our third score big mistake like that the spurs he had a couple of with phonic leading the World Cup final against Croatia dot one did encounter against Croatia dead. You kinda gets out on them because they still won the game and he redeemed aimed himself in the second half with to shoot saves so it was not all bad but he he needs to sort out the povey game and not just me but a lot of people have been telling named He's a left footed play she. They're more gifted on the ball footage. You know what I mean. I don't know I want to forget like I said shuckers traffic and it's exactly the what it was all right well as you heard Jews popular so he's got a date with you. Go to these come Monday. We're going to prepare for that. Thank you guys so much for watching today's show now Gills Gabon. I usually hit the clubs after nineteen London. Our young and Vibrant Gab is definitely young I wrote. I know you're not much of a wine drinker. Even though you French what so what are we going to. Do you know what what's the most. It's not the party is the after party and so that you're the right man. Oh Hey no after the show after the party and that's exactly what we're GONNA do guys.

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Andrew Goddard Book Requests

Set Lusting Bruce: The Springsteen Podcast

26:52 min | 4 months ago

Andrew Goddard Book Requests

"Hello everyone, and welcome to a new episode of settlers Bruce Your podcast. All about Bruce Springsteen is music and mostly EST fans. I am your host Jesse Jackson and joining me today is my new friend, Andrew Goddard welcome to the show. I just doing I am great. We just spent a few minutes talking about the weather. It's a little bit warmer there for you than you normally like where are you calling from? from citizenship Sheffield. Used to be really industrial states, lots of the American. I guess it'd meant lie in America you know young staff as it as it springsteen song you now. You know. We didn't do blast finish still. Finished model but we do were fresh. You know more called metals. Particularly stood. Huge city stalemate. Was Production us to confront chapter that ones that. Really. Important. If they come for me as well master wealthiest away with Sheffield pro ratio. I guess really quantity prone. City from there from the metal making we tell the world to make stale. I guess the other thing about Sheffield is music which is. What will really about today and? We must really amazing bands come out my city and it's always was a very historical interested music I guess the most impo abundance among ethic. Monkeys. Very nice and they absent very interesting lyrics Latin No angry Sheffield oriented lyrics southern got Sheffield. Owning said BAND SO I. Don't know no no. No, I, appreciate it. I. I was just going to say this is a not a typical set less than Bruce, episode Andrew's going to join me another time and we're GONNA do his full springsteen story and ask all the normal questions we normally do but today were specifically here is you need some help from fans correct. Yeah We're. The both got three threads to it but at lately I'm I guess I'm a girl Anorak. Against Really debry well. From the Gate Cola sales sometimes is anorexic would really into. So what I'm interested in his people bruce three whereas that were used in the springs I. Feel Right. Now. Fans three woods. So. The explanation. So Andrew What do you have a title yet for your book that you're working on okay off bad. In the state. that. Appeals. Goals you know. Snail City Girl Steel Sissy. We already got one one bit of our, which is the the chapter to outwit with Sheffield, which is they slide Cobra. Grains dramatic clock. Okay. But he's done as Dale city s why. Rather than. With that within pictures of Sheffield in the lateran. Grains show said. Now so outlooks important. So I think when we first start giant, we were talking about some of the really great artwork that was on as. walls and featuring Bruce I would really like to get some bitches that. In the book read a lot the link between out work and. While it music's about work. Isn't it? Yes. One of the spectrum of activities in that. Genre. So what you're trying to do with the book is the Kinda give a a fandom kind of perspective from not only yourself and other people right. But just the kind of share a an overall phantom perspective of what Bruce Innings. three threats to it again, my life story. Okay. But. Only briefly. I guess not going to interest many people. I'm rice but go ahead then shift Sheffield's music. Jeffey lucidity but. In in the world and you know. And then really Bruce Springsteen's music helplessly one of the Katie bits of this book around. You know for me Graham away that's where I met my wife. whereas. Braced for the first time. not support remarkably but that there was an act that which means out Max out. In two, thousand and one. So we. We've go. There's a lot of links between that, and then since then I was leaving going to brace I'm not saying that many shadows to be fair but I've seen him in quite a few different countries of stadium in. Germany. Stadium in Philadelphia. Gun The pilgrimage to break walk. Him In island? Stadium boss allowing about seven eight times a look that stacey it's really great licensed state Broza cavs, and the energy. Remember it was the first show on the reunion show. On the second I was writing from the Clarion. So update on the front of the. So. Yeah. I mean competitive with it funds Dow I'm a bit of an amateur I think when I stop talking to other dominy faith. So. At night I doubt that you know go cabinet on the. Talking about our doping on on the live album naively. Get the genuine representation of the. But it's a little bit more complicated than that in the real world and yeah, I thought that was really quite interested that is interesting in on one of the things I. Tell People Andrew when I interview them for this show is I do not believe the amount of times you've seen Bruce is a fair barometer of how big of a fan you are because. Based on economics based on geography based on time line, you just haven't had a chance. Now if someone you know is in the Jersey Philly area and I discover in like seventy seven, seventy, eight, you know they have had tons of opportunities to see him versus someone like me who lived in Louisiana and Texas is not as much or even you know another country. All right. So you you're you're wanting a couple of things from US fans. The first thing you mentioned a little bit but I'm GonNa ask you to repeat that three words for Bruce. So expand a little bit about what you're needing. What the funds they give him. I daily. At good The. Next a good explanation. I mean. I mean I've not come up with a good one down Mons not great. Well, I guy I now I I just met you make Jasko echoing TESCO jaw. And and this one as the dream baby dream. Now, that's not gruesome but these explanations amazing. The guy so we thought at Ropley Song. said it was a song one that a one at that vision of the some play days on funeral I'm thinking if that's not. A recommendation. Y You do something then I. Don't while is so stuff like that and how about if you will this with other ones? So he's got this is absolutely amazing how people thought about it right? That level of detail and and. So on I don't mind the normal ones alive you the other day Oh did want it And thinking. That's now Roman an unthinking us, absolutely stunning and. I. Don't think. I don't think this is the right answer but. What's more important is the next to the nation for the. No one I have. So they had the same thing with me. You know at the end of every podcast when I'm doing an episode, you know ask my guests this Mary get in the car and the defender Road and the answer whether it's yes or no is not important as them explaining their work why they think yes, she does or why they think no, she doesn't, and so I agree with you like if you Faith love and hope you know Well, why did you say Levin Hope as your reasons for? Having that represent Bruce I totally get. going. So is about the explanation that's that's in poems is about. It's about explaining why you do something rather than just do something absolutely now I mean the other one. I'm asking people to book violated. Eko Channel. Does in. Yes and she wrote back in nineteen, eighty six. It was. It was called reasons to believe in the number of questions I mean some of them are. outdated a little bit. But. I really liked those questions. And I think a lot to people's. Answers to those questions across love to go through him because the the intensive while the jail. Nice to get in a few different. I mean I've got I've got a couple of. Tribute bands the event question. Okay I've got a couple of you. The I now that being seen him a long time so. You know I'm GonNa, Janelle much dance his over quite a few started to compile a few answers the variety Bassett really big behalf again. Yeah. So to get people's answers to those questions, it would be really really great. Reveals more. Light you say it reveals more about finding than than than just. Just, the answer, the answer. No. Yeah. I'm really cool. But the explanation for the answers rarely full. Yeah and There is about ten questions and I'm looking you at sent them. and and I will include these in the show but just really quick just people might be curious. How old are you? What's your educational level? Do you live in a city server rural area? What do you do for a living? And then it gets to Do you believe Bruce's music relates to your working world? How long have you been springsteen fan and then he gets a little more specific in like I said I. Guess. the first time you heard a springsteen song in like I said, we'll include all of these In one that's always fun is if you're on a desert island with only one springsteen album which when when you want to be in wise. So yeah, always interesting. the the other thing you are looking in. You mentioned this a little bit is you're saying any street art work related to Bruce. Just. Sheffield we we've. I guess we go to different. Kind of tradition of doing scribbles on the walls but generally they've been very so you know what? We would feel facie. people appleby gold acts, and there's a few Sheffield. With specific tax But now it's really not minerals people paying. And some really interesting property on buildings lock right by jobless caucus one of the buildings with one of his poems on. Not, quite lot the connection between the music and the battery and. I like the images the ESERA bruce with Clarence one of the bitches yes. And I. Think. It would be really nice to see I mean I guess for my view like when I read about as I get the feeling that it was. it badly by the riots and. I mean I went to see and I think it was ninety, two, ninety three. On it was pretty derelict to be fair. It will share won't credit back. And I think you know the salvage stadium was up outsell the and I think it was great to go. But. I think he's picked up a lot now but really right to see it and I think the the other thing that up now is still on May be wrong book it seems to have stopped to develop a little bit librarian in the end. Up. Quite. Vibrant Gay community and I think as a result some some extra dimensions in. Assistant. Stuff. So I really like the way in originally was a fusion between black music and music. But you know the gay community is another way of expressing themselves, music and nothing. Could be another fusion as rape bucket round nothing. To learn a bit more about whether I'm thinking right or wrong it well, I know that Bella Pori has been on the show multiple times and she is quick to tell me that there is a. There is a pretty significant lesbian following a moose that they in a lot of ways he's become too many you know in a lesbian icon, which is I think really cool. You're also asking. You're asking. If someone has a springsteen tribute band in their city to reach out to them and ask them to send information do about. Yeah. Obstinacy if the running springs defines in south, America have not been out to find any be talking to a lady. Comes from one of the one of the so than citizen Brazil. She says that lives in big spring stink. So the Vandam there. Doesn't seem to be a tribute band this year. On know whether that's culture whether it's The symbol the reason behind it so Again I guess in the Sobe in China. Fan I would he'd Japan should. There's a big karaoke thing is well pass. On Your Web enjoying bruise so. Wise have been bruce adults. There is. Yeah I agree with you Andrew Chris. Bloom is from South Africa He's been on the show a couple of times. So I'll email him an ask Gambia knows of any tribute bands from that area you know, and then you're also saying Not. Just, street art any kind of art if you've done springsteen drawings paintings. You WanNa see. There I mean in boss along with his. So of Representation dolls. You know the couple of the caricatures have been doing. Yeah but I'm I'm guessing there must be at all rafted. Will this the fact that? I'm. trending in the book. Now I don't think so. You know the biographies of. A pretty pretty drive to be honest they don't really. I don't know I'm a I'm Ashton I'm thinking I'm a fan. An APP, I have some graduated thinking at times I think. I think one of not speak to the crazy seems to be on there is A. Different ways of looking at it. Yeah. The Nets. Yeah, and this September been doing this podcast for five years I have had. Over four hundred episodes were talking to different people about their spring fandom and So you know I've been lucky enough get people. comes out Africa Australia Russia you know a different European countries. All. Over the US. Oh, I hear you. couple of last things you wanted I think this'll be interesting. You said that if anyone has a spring steamed blog or podcast or something descend information, I will certainly send you a write up about my pod gas. Picture my logo kind of talking about it. and then I think the last thing the the Bramall Lane concert in. sonoma mediate. Could probably get if few business from the about is wounded if there was any fans with specific with him again. As I did have another computer at bad some funded fun email along the phone that when. All right and as a guy was replaced officer on the day and other people so nice. Few stories around that guns that probably will be published in don't. Generally Suggested that everyone now, because I'm sure they're going Gosh Andrew has a lot of stories. Why aren't you asking Jesse WE'RE GONNA have Andrew Back when the book is closer to be published and we're GonNa do a standard episode where I ask him are normal springsteen discussions an where reunion at the book. But. Today this is specifically were just looking for data. So Andrew, how did they send you this data? Basically email address. Okay. Let's give it to me. I'm going to be blown out but that's What my physical address yeah. but that the email addresses. A should be quite easy to remember see spa she. Real. So it's bust that she has which is spell. As a laugh. At. G Mail. Okay. All right that's bras and chef edgy mail dot com. That's B. O. S.. One way the first. Yeah, B.. O. S. S. B. A. N. D. S. H. E. F. F.. F. B. O.. That's An okay. Got It. Great it. Great Windy. You need this by. Well I mean I'm GonNa be Ryan, I, guess I'm. Going to be at least six months before proper draft. So okay any needs not enough critical. I guess the these chapters, the dance. Yeah. Three or four months from now but be Greg Okay. Well. Anytime. I'm not. I'm not saying you know don't do it now do it now the Sheriff Way Sooner rather than it be bad he's by. The not is Islam. And you're on twitter as well. Aren't you? Yeah I'm I'm really know been on Twitter Very Long Okay folks I'm still Avenue. Presence on there I also have a presence only Japan, which is the professional that. Yeah She's motivated rather than. Small Keep them two things away from each other. All right. Yeah. So your twitter, it looks like is at Andrew G. Four, nine, seven, seven, four, eight nine but would not easy to remember that's okay. And so. A website GonNa go and Organiz Yeah Okay we'll be a website now problem because buffs funds. Yeah. Okay Anything, else to share. I might really the other thing would be nice would be obviously thinking now what to do? But. It will be nice. If people gave some thought about excite was what you now The album thing if that one book that the on the Shell what would happen in an hour they were. So for me at this book is about is kind of lacking index. So it's a it's a coffee table book. Something you want to pick up every now and again it's not something you would have an read every nine. a flight through and it would show about Bateson it that you would wanNA pick up on go for south it's not just about race either I think One of the things that somebody again unswayed tell me and. I'm really not reading so few mania, but some of these things are absolutely doing. This guy goes you need to listen to that Taylor swift album when you walk Taylor Swift. Is Yeah it's quite good and I'll listen to it with up. You know what? He's all right. and. Then Eddie Manning's album and listen to that recently. That's fantastic. And you know all the mountain members have got stuff going on and they just give. Outside that and you you go I mean a lot about Morrison Eastman. Second best stuff. It's like gap. But Oh these little. You know these little guys it complaint chef we walk through when we say and absolutely these long while group. Record Day. Badlands is. Fan. Fan Collection in insurance from by you know Phil Phil Jones. We got that on record day. They they spend their a few years ago And? And they play completely acoustically. But the the with amplification NAB, we've seen him in a small cafe in chef weather's about twenty people and it's actually is to go rope up rowdy, out by. and. Absolutely stunning and then. There was another bandit applied at record is well Danny and the champions of the world lady were some, which is really why get the early While innocent. That sounds really. So look that somebody also them down in the champions, the world that rival check out sounds good listen to them. That's. All right again I've struggle to get anywhere really well, and it's just disappointment that the people of quality that John Doing the succeed at. One of the things. That the world is now the some competition in everything you're inslee very difficult again, bruce breaks that there is All right. So once again, I'm going to wrap it up We need We will have a list of carols, questions Definitely. Want your three words for Bruce and Y you pick those three words. Any original artwork any any you know photos you've got anything you want to share if you have a tribute band or if you do a blog more a podcast, send this to it and it's boss fan chef at gmail.com. In if you have any questions guys, you can reach out to me you reach on. Andrew. I'm glad to help in in. Thank you for joining me Andrew. Huma listeners can help you get to know what to do. I'm you know it's Used to speaking and they've stopped through. Don't conference conference us, but he's. You know that she subject you know. Get to. It's a different thing is is this is my lot bashing this is what I did for. I. Think this sounds like a great project and I can't wait to get a copy and and and enjoy all the different tales for now. Andrew Police be safe. Take care of yourself, wash your remember listeners, wash your hands season distance where the mask when you go out and. S. Not Accounted. Clued up. So yeah. Yeah. Andrew it is great visiting with you. Let's check back again as you get further along the book more alright and. Listener. Really, Greg all, right. You just her the fun talk hard rock music. Album raking. Band thinking joy spring lyric readings, story sharing podcasts. That is the one the on. The settling bruce is part of the southgate media podcast group. The theme for Settlers Bruce was written by David, Roseanne used by permission.

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