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Shinsuke Nakamura, Carmella, & Shayna Baszler - Notsam Wrestling 204

Sam Roberts Wrestling Podcast

1:46:55 hr | 2 years ago

Shinsuke Nakamura, Carmella, & Shayna Baszler - Notsam Wrestling 204

"Today, I'm not saying wrestling, we've got exclusive interviews from the WWE performance center, which Shinsegei nakimora Carmella and shayna baiser will talk about the announcement of WWE crown jewel from Saudi Arabia. The return of Brock listener completely breakdown, Helena Sal, only a couple of weeks away from super showdown. We got a lot to talk about. So let's get into it. His. Introducing your host from New York here is Sam rulers. It's been a busy one. Welcome to not Sam wrestling. Busy week, busy, busy. We and you get to reap the rewards of all of it this week here on not same wrestling as well as over for the not Sam shells on patriotic exclusive content all coming from the performance center. This week are not Sam wrestling. I'm so excited last week, Stu Bennett. I thought was great. I didn't get to promote that podcast away. I usually promote these podcasts because I've been so all over the place. So I don't know if there was like official Twitter post, the episode went up laid on YouTube all over the place. So if you haven't for any reason, if you didn't get to hear the interview with Stu Bennett formerly known as Wade Barrett, make sure that you check that out on last week's episode. And of course, I redid the top ten list the top ten faction list the WWE put out very, very controversial list that they put out a couple of weeks ago. I gave you my list of top ten factions last week on the podcast, so go. Back and listen to last week's podcast. If you missed it may post that video of the top ten factions just so everybody can see it because there was some controversy and I'll get into that here on not Sam wrestling this week. But first and foremost, it's, of course the interviews I was down at the performance center actually a week ago. If you download this show the day, it comes out. I was the performance center a week ago today. So two k games sent out a whole bunch of us probably about thirty of us down to the performance center to see everything that was going on with the WWE and to talk about everything that was going on with the new video game WWE to k nineteen like a week before we were going down. Just got an Email saying, hey, Sam, would you want to come to a to k event at the performance center in Orlando checkout, get a tour of the place to play the game. Do interviews bobble by said, yeah, you know, the whole point of not Sam wrestling is to provide the ultimate wrestling fan podcast experience. So I said, not everybody's gonna. Get this Email. So I would love to go down to performance center, get as much as I can out of it and report back to you share that access with you. And so that's what this week and next week will be all about. We got a whole bunch of interviews to podcasts worth, so we will be playing some of those this week and some of those next week. And I'm really, really excited about it. First of all, I got to be hands on with w two k nineteen, and it's awesome. I play these games every year. I get them every year Smeg from the smackdown vs raw days. I mean, I think the first so I even had like the the Nintendo games, the WWE Nintendo games. The first game that I remember being super super excited about. I was gonna say was in your house for the first PlayStation. But I remember before that, I think the first wrestling video game that I was super excited about was probably raw is war for Segi Genesis. That was the first game. Where you could go outside the ring and they had foreign objects. You could hit people with a chair or a bucket. That was the first game that I think the first game there was a female character in loon of Sean was in that game. There was battle Royal mode. So you could have all kinds of characters. And it was all characters from like the ninety, four ninety five era of WWE. I loved Roy's war for Sega Genesis, but I've pretty much bought every game sense them in your house. Wrestlemainia the game. I think you would reverse the order of those to. You know, smackdown I think was the next series of games of the smackdown series. Of course, the sixty four games. Let's not. Let's not forget to mention when t h q. Lost the WCW license and picked up the WWE license. And what started is w. w. w. o. revenge became first wrestlemainia two thousand. And then arguably I have this argument with people maybe the best wrestling game of all time. No way out for sixty four. My preference was wrestlemainia two thousand, but I think most people's preference was no way out for sixty four. I mean, people just love that game for me and maybe it was because it was the first wrestling game I ever played on sixty four wrestlemainia two thousand just has a place in my heart. And really it's because that game engine wrestlemainia two thousand and no mercy was one of the funnest wrestling video game engines of all time in the sense that it wasn't necessarily about career mode or create a superstar or pay per view this or that or whatever it was just the funnest game to be able to pick up throw into exhibition mode. One of the. View wrestling games that I was able to play for months and months and months. If not years, simply an exhibition mode funnest game to play on player. It was awesome. Smackdown starts coming out, ran the PlayStation two era than it went into raw versus smackdown, and then it went into the to WWE twenty eighteen or twenty sixteen WWE fifteen, whatever it was into the two k. era which is where we are now and I've got them. I mean, you know if I went through all my stuff, I'm sure I could find discs for most of these games that have come out. I've got them all and you know you upgrade every year and you. You figure out if there's much of a difference and I will tell you, I got to be hands on with two k nineteen, and I actually felt a difference. It felt different from k. eighteen like this year. It's actually it's a fun game to play. I've played. I had hot dog with me in Orlando. You know, my my young boy hotdog. And we played an iron man match. We played a ladder match. We played last man standing. We played regular. I beat him every single time, all of them. And he tried to make excuses like, well, it's because Bob odds because this it's because that I beat him in every match type. I beat him with Brock Lessner. I beat him with Robert Gibson, you know, I beat them across the board without issue, but I was having a good time the entire time and it didn't feel like I was playing a polished version of the old game. There's all this stuff that they threw in like a zombie triple h and a big head mode is real. I don't know if you guys know about this the first time I remember big head mode was in like NBA jam, but you can actually turn on big head mode and have superstars competing with heads that are like the same size of their bodies, just massive heads and amazingly fun mode to play because you get to see all the detail in the facial expressions of these guys and girls. So. That was fun. So many superstars and I'll tell you and I was looking at like the the DLC content announcement and at first I'm like, super excited, right? Because I'm sitting there going. I get to play game because of all the WWE signings. You get to play a game. Now, who would have thought a couple of years ago you get to play a two k. game with the war raiders with ricochet with Leo rush with e c three, you know, with every Gargano is in it. Everybody. All these recent signings are all in it for the life of me. I don't know why chump is not in it. I have to imagine that there's going to be some kind of announcement of some kind of content bundle that chump is in because everything that I've seen like, you know, I don't remember. You know, obviously I didn't play with as every character at the performance center, but I don't specifically remember him being on the menu unless he was and I just skipped over him. I don't think I ever play. His champ. I didn't see him in my mind's eye and he hasn't been announcing he's not announced on the downloadable content unless he's like a secret character. There's something there has to be something up with ciampa being in the game because I don't think that there's been an official statement from two k. on it. I didn't get one anyway, and he wasn't announced in the downloadable content announcement this week, so I don't know what the deal is, but certainly I would feel like game is incomplete without to Moscow ciampa, but there's a lot of fun stuff you can play and we did once you can play at the white compound, like that's what you can do like backstage brawl and instead of just being like, oh, do you want to do it in the parking lot or the locker room? You could also decide to do it at the white compound. You know where they did like the new Davis is the white family, all kinds of stuff. And I know like what hot dog did was he played as Matt hardy at the white compound, and in his little imagination made pretend like it was the hardy compound. So. So much stuff, and I can't wait to see what the final final version of this game is like once it finally comes out on October ninth for PS, four and XBox and all that stuff. So I'm very, very excited about having an in my home and get him to play it as much as I want. But that was one of the topics of conversations when we talked to some of the people that we talked to the beforrade center. So we go into the performance center and we get a tour for coach Amato. Sarah mono and coach, Matt bloom, head coach bloom, and they get to show they show us around. We walk in, we go into the big, the big meeting room where they have this amazing, huge, solid steel, two ton table that stretches across the room with fluorescent lights and like cage chain link cage, wall ceiling in this amazing room that we're in this giant room where they get together and and and had these big meetings and monitors and everything. And he starts talking. About all the spots that they have for watching tape and how valuable they find watching video of matches with coaches, so they can point out the details of what's going on in these matches. Then we get to go back and we'll get to see the the medical room. You know that super super state of the art and giant where people go either with serious injuries or light injuries, or just training or whatever. Just just, you know, the top of the line sports medical room that they have their, we get to see what was really interesting for me, the commentary room where they go and they can record commentary to monitor. For any show you can imagine. And Michael Cole actually can tap into the room from his house so he can help train the announcers of tomorrow or the young announcers, or whatever from his home. And I know that Tom Phillips does a lot of that too now and is there in Orlando and ends up, I'm sure in that commentary room, I saw the green screen room where wrestlers can go in and practice promos and and come up with characters and do all kinds of stuff. Just shoot promos until they're blue in the face. The giant Jim, of course, where everybody's training. You know, when I was there. I mean, this is really large Sullivan and Johnny Gargano, and and and Zilina Vega and all these people Kylo Riley all training in this Jim, this is really where the superstars train. And then of course we go into the main room where they have like seven rings setup practice going on, and all of them did. Different practices. Different rings do different things. There's one ring that's specific for practicing aerial moves. There's the the one ring over here. It's just an amazing amazing place. So we get to see this whole tour, and then we sit down. And they put on this three match show for us where we've got the headline was Cassius Ono versus Stacy. I don't remember Stacy's last name. I followed him on Instagram recently because I was very impressed with him. I follow him on Instagram over the week, but it was his first match ever and he got to have this match. It was the mighty versus the street prophets. Lacey Evans had a match. It was really, it was really an amazing thing to watch these people perform for like thirty of us media types that had been flown into watch this stuff. They put on a great show, and then we spent the rest of the day interviewing superstars as well as getting our hands on this game. Now, I will tell you for the people that are not Sam shells for you that are signed up at patriotair dot com. Slash not Sam wrestling. I was, you know, using my iphone to take some video of this tour that we got to the performance center. So the superstars and hall of fame level shells at patriot dot com slash not Sam wrestling. They were. Promised bonus video. There's already a bonus video up of Joey Nella hanging out with lyla Garrity the labrador here in the not Sam studio. I'm posting another video today and less. It was already posted yesterday of the tour of the performance centers. So that performance center tour is going up for the not Sam shows on patriotic as well as of course, all the videos from the interviews that we played today. The podcast goes up early and add free. There's bonus shows that go up at least two, three, four times a month, all kinds of stuff going on over patriot dot com. Slash not Sam wrestling to me. It's very important that this show stays independent. It doesn't become part of a big conglomerate doesn't become part of a big network. It's just us doing what we do and the way we do that and continue to create content and continue to build the community and continue to flood people into the not Sam wrestling discord room that super super active all the time. In fact, it's a place that I went this week to try to find or to ask ideas for what people want to hear about in the state of wrestling. The way we do that is through you guys signing up and becoming not Sam shells over patriotic dot com slash not Sam wrestling. So you'll be able to check out all this content. I right over there, but we're going to get into the interviews now the interviews taped at the performance center, and we start with a guy who I was kind of shocked when I. Realized first time on not Sam wrestling first time on this podcast, ladies and gentlemen, he is the current WWE United States champion. He was hanging out at the performance center as part of this to k. nineteen event. He is the one and only I can't believe he's on the podcast. If you had told me I it just so cool. Shinsegei nakimora then not Sam wrestling interview. We're the performance center with Shinsegei nakimora. It's two k nineteen day Shinsegei what's the half's. There since you thought of now. On the my name on the. I don't know. Is that Japanese because I can't really reading that. Yeah, you can. Oh, you can see this. It's the shine a glaring the camera. That's all. That's all that is well, welcome. Did you spend a lot of time in the performance center? Yes. Next you did? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Go the. Two thousand sixteen I join a annex t the they'll almost every day. I came here to take crass Nick, not across. So I was in. That. In the jam also the Crossley watching my match or other methods. Matt's also, I did the promo code author here and John's PC show. Yeah, which is kind of amazing. And I don't think people would would would think that that would happen because obviously you'd had a hugely successful career before you got here, you're entrances were already famous. Charisma was already famous. So we're there, we'll what at the performance center were you able to add what you already knew how to do Co. the soul, moving from Japan, we'd family is kind of a huge things things to allow that can eat to get like a social security needs to get dry vice hands. Also saw need to find that score. Then the Potman so things to that out so that if I became just died extra two main roster no time, right because you'd be on the road all the way to just stay here and put your saw. So inex- schedule that could weaken that Cosandey every Sundays off. The was amazing movie. I got Nick asunday all's poss- time in my Kerio. Right? Yeah. Like you'd had like. Oh, before this. So I had like a regular tho- I've had. I'm doing Rick regular job. Now, weekends soda cow, so I could go to school look at, look in Nick, my daughter staff, so I've entered the cross thaw just one year. I spent a timing and extent, but the. One the of awesome full me, especially in your personal. I've been so do you. I mean, is that the fact that you upright your whole life? Right? And change your whole lifestyle? Yeah. Do you tell WWE like, look, I'm very interested in being a part of the WWE, but this can't be for two years. This has to be long-term because we can all move here. Change our entire live get and then moved back to like moving back to Japan would be a colossal pain in any kind of short term. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Aw. I've not enough. So I, I wanna spend the so my life my time here. Yeah, so so I I, I don't fear I, I. Achieve yet right now all on you to prove myself more. Yeah, just just maybe a fifty percent of me. You've only shown fifteen percent, or are you doing. Eighty five percent still improvement needs to go. All right. Well, when did we start seeing this eighty five percents. That's why you need all the time. Right? So I took, I took. I took a lot of time to adjust. Yeah, yeah, I see. So w that'd be like a TB by then the hell show. I think kind of this other say, like a kind of. The style knows as on the style, that kind of foam? Yes, yes. Yeah, you had to adjust to the platform of what what it was that you're doing it because I guess people don't really realize that WW there's wrestling and there's WWE and that's a completely different product right also. Yeah, an and the. Kind of smackdown wall much much difference. So you get to smack you get to you get to the main roster and you're like, okay, I learned a lot. But now I got a whole other earning curve. At work. Oh my God. But also stare at a changing a lot. Maybe a annex t change allowed. So when rested. And so, yeah, now new calmer and also that India status come in over also more Asians and Europeans Moeen in Chanel wise, then it'd be by the go to the also like a kite keenum because schedule next Steve, I'll changed. Oh, I see. Yeah. Curriculum. Yeah. So everything's different. Everything different. Do you feel like when you started doing the the, he'll stuff that you've kind of been doing since wrestlemainia that you started to kind of figure out more how to her personality and Acton do all that because there was definitely. I mean, you could feel it. I'm sure it change in not only you, but the way people perceive you. Yeah. So. I like changing. Yeah, goals a phone. Also saw to say, so what should I explain about. Yeah, kind of thaw investing also in. Kind of. Entertainment. So most important things is like a giving impression so that like changing to the heels, gave a huge a. Huge impact. The wrestlemainia. So. Also now I feel comfortable. So I've he'll go. The I can show like is detail my personality. And it didn't. You know that low blow? Yeah. I mean, it's easy for you to do. You're not gonna hurt yourself to mobile. There's very little risk. Great. Finisher. And it is synonymous to would being a bag. I've anybody's like, oh, what Shinsegei up to the minute you do the low blow it say, okay, now we know. Boo. We don't like him. Does being a video? Are you a video game guy? Just thinking I like you as that much time to play video games, but maybe you do. I don't know I to spend the time at the nature. Like surfing. End up friends with James Ellsworth over surfing. Actually, I've never. I've never seen his soften. The Hawaii fell into go soften the same beach. Okay. See you on the water. I couldn't find him. Sausa-. Okay. Okay. Let's see. But I see the his standing on the ball. Does it get to your kids like video games, nature people to both because I would. I would imagine, you know, not only coming to the states is going to change your whole perspective on anything, but now for the first time, seeing your dad is a character in these video games or watching one your entrance over there when the screens right now, let's got to be a pretty wild trip, especially for the kids. Yeah. Yeah. But the. Yeah, I the game lot when I was a kid. Yeah, not like Bish home. That'd be no games. Even the kinda. Hottest making the throw these you'll be resting. Yeah. Yeah, because I pray that out resting BDO games, but the I didn't touch I I didn't touch the video game long time, right? Maybe now the new school would be like a wrestling Bideau game and maybe too complicated to bring. Yeah. Combination of, hey, imagine how mccown fos, Nintendo just to button eight. No. Just forward be? That's it. Yeah. Do you do you have a favorite opponent that you've had in WWE because I mean, people look forward to different things, and that's part of the excitement of you being here. It was like, you know, working wrestlemainia styles or something fans wanted to see it for a long time, but you working with John Sinoe was like, that's one of those matches. You never think is going to happen. Do you have a favorite favor upon then? Yeah. Yeah, saw. So if they can stop story almost ABC day wrestled is same opponent. So that's. That makes fit in like a, it'd be it'd be rested a is my favorite. Now. I'd have to wrestle with Jeff Hoti doing right now, and you just keep getting better getting better also. So getting better, which means I understand that what he thinking, what he feed him. So that's why get it sold. I like the Soviets AB body, right? Yeah. Doll Viga Asia styles, Jones FINA and around the autumn anymore. Right, right, right. Right. Did you like the the theme music change? I kind of thought the theme music change was brilliant because it's still a cool theme. But yeah, sing along. You know what I mean? I talked to have been. Yeah. So why? So she chained music put on the RAF, right? Yeah. Japanese wraps. Even even even me Japanese, but some Nick redick's couldn't understand. Yeah, but the saw been since idea of us also. So. So you'll be here thought you. I saw the people can make along with me guessing along with me so, but they're still okay. All the ass tried to think. Sounds like some people some audience, try to remember the redick's Japanese, rob. You don't even know. Okay. You want. You deserve this. Can you along? No problem. Well, since gates fun to watch your success and I'm, I'm loving this incarnation that we're seeing of Shinsegei nakimora and I love knowing as you told us, you wanna live in America. The United States, it's very, very fit. Her name is. Yes, right there somewhere. Yeah, absolutely. Thanks a lot, man. Thanks. Knock America. Nakimora is a hilarious, dude. I don't think we've begun to see how entertaining he can be an thought. It was really interesting how honest he was about the level of improvement that he thinks that he's capable of showing. He thinks that we've seen about fifteen percent of what he can do. That's eighty five percent potential improvement in nakimora and you know, people do talk about this. People do talk about this idea that we thought a certain nakimora was going to come into the WWE hasn't quite gotten there. And I think that's what nakimora is telling us. So very cool to hear him. Acknowledge that let's move right along couple more interviews to share with you from the WWE performance center. We're going to get to. Shane obeys ler, but I, I got to go face to face with the woman who went on the WWE network and sat there at a table next to myself and the birthday girl. The first female fulltime commentator of Monday night raw, Renee young and told me that not only was I just like the internet trolls are, but I'm actually physically like a Norfolk troll like a troll doll, like a treasure trove, like the troll from the movie. They can do all kinds of crazy things with their hair. I wish I got to sit down and confront face to face these so-called Princess of Staten Island Carmella, and we got into my theory about what our truth was able to do with her character within a single episode of smackdown. Let's move right along before we get to. Shane obeys ler it's Carmella. There's the camera. They're too busy, Instagram. Luckily fixture Heffer Instagram. So you're camera ready. Perfect. We're the two k. nineteen event here at the performance center and it wouldn't be a performance center media event without Carmella Carmella. What's the half's? I mean, it's so cool to be here. Yeah, it's really cool. I feel like so much has changed in my career my life since I was last here, so it's really cool. Yeah, you know, I interviewed you here once before and we were on much better terms. You would not insulted me publicly. People were not sending me troll memes on the internet. I would never do that to you. I'm pretty sure, and it was on television, so that's what is it like to be back here? No, it's just so cool. I remember. Yeah, we were in the middle of the ring wearing a high, doing Charlotte crazy. How much has changed. But yeah, like last time I was here as a manager, right? That's what I was doing. I barely got an opportunity for matches on TV or a never wrestled on a takeover. And now I just. Gosh, this last year has been so crazy. Did you think you're like, you know what I'm managing right now, but I'll get there. I'm going to end up being the women's champion. Always knew that in the back of my mind, but it just seemed so far away and it just felt like I knew it happened some day, but it just it was like a distant dream that you never think is actually gonna come true and it did so on one level. Right? You've got your dream coming true. Yeah, you win a championship. You'd be Charlotte twice feed Oscar twice, but you got a huge percentage of the fan base being linked, but you still can't wrestle off course. Is this like you go like you, don't you guys don't understand like these accomplishments that I've you. There's nothing that you can do that's going to take this away from me. Exactly. That's exactly what they can't ruin it. They can't. And I feel like it's a testament to my hard work is a testament to the performance center as well. Everything that I learned here and it doesn't matter the and I don't want it mean and disrespectful. I don't care what the fans thing. It's not about that, but I feel like I know how hard I work to get there. So that's all that really matters. And I want money in the Bank. Twice twice. Okay. And then I cautioned to become champion and I was cheering and no one can ever take that away from me. Right? And my name will always go down in history as the first money of the Bank. Luckily you'll remind everybody of that too. So that's not an issue. Do you miss working with James Ellsworth who. Guy was. Facial definition wasn't quite we surprised when they brought them back like when they were like is so cool. I mean, I I've been saying it's just really cool. I feel very fortunate to have had the career path that I have. I started. I was a manager for Enzo and cast and then drafted to smackdown Jim, my own thing for, but and then I had James, then I was on my own desert champ and now I get to be with our truth. I feel like I have this really cool journey that I get to show all these different sides of Carmella. I was talking about on the podcast and it's amazing. This is our troops power within legu- spent months getting everybody to hate you. Right. That was that was. And you did the work and you did it well, right. And you were successful. And then in one television episode or truth is like, hey, Carmella come join me and everybody's like, yeah, it's weird and like I'm not doing anything different. I'm I'm still Carmella, but it's like, I mean, I'll take it. I'm just having a blast. Then it gets a rap. Now I'm a rapper. Did you know that I didn't realize that by trade by trade, I didn't really. I didn't really. I mean, I knew that there was like some hip hop culture in you realize we're full on rapper now. Yeah, I'm gonna dropping album real. Yeah. Wow. That'd be really. Wow. That's giving Elias competition. Oh. Has nothing on me. When you're rapping employees, would you do freestyles. A little bit, yo, yo, yo, check at once ticket twice. It's lay on the Mike Choubey eaten white rice j just say, Leah. I meant Mela shoot quick. Sorry, you're the realist papper there. It's okay. Well, I also think though that like when you're a bad guy really, really well, and you make the transition into good guy is almost like this thing where fans are waiting like just give us a reason to cheer you because you know what I mean? Like I think they just love to hate me so much, but it is what it is. What do you like better? I mean, I've only been doing this for like a couple of weeks, but I was a good guy next tea. So to me, it's more just Carmel is still kind of the same. It's just, I guess, a situations that put in and there goes my phone and it just depends on, like, I guess, who I'm up against like if they, they love Becky Lynch feel like if I was against her, of course, cheer for her and hate me. Do you look at what's going on with Becky Lynch being like, oh, I got to be ready for situation like that. Because obviously Becky Lynch is like, all right, I'm gonna go out there and I'm going to be the, I'm going to be the villain. And everybody's like, no, we don't care. We're going to here. Becky is so justified in everything she's done right. So that's why she's getting cheered. People are like, no. Oh, that's not fair, but he's been screwed over time after time after time for years now. So then she finally had enough, right? Everyone can relate to that. Do you go? Well, you know, there was a third person in that match. If everybody could remember that I was the former women's champion of, and that's okay. I think I, I mean, I'm going to be honest, I think as sold a show in that match. I mean, I did the most so they can talk about Becky like you talk about Charlotte, but I mean, I still look the best. Fabulous. So he did the most and you look exactly. I think what people really like about us, your humility in their relate ability and just the down to earth nece that you that you come to the table with every single time. Do you. So when you go right and you accomplish all your goals which you kind of have in the last year. Do you kind of leave yourself with like, okay, I'm in it now. Not the women's champion anymore. What am I new goals? Like? What is the thing that fuels me going forward for me, it's just constantly trying to improve and you the best joke around and say, I look and do the best. But honestly, I just feel like whatever situation I want to do the best at it and just keep improving, like I was champion once, but I want to be champion. Again, I want to be the best rapper for our truth. I want to be the best that whatever it is I can do and I continue to just, you know, people can hit on me or down on me whatever they want. But I just know that I'm working really hard and try my best who were the people because we're here. It's a performance center who the people that really helped you evolve from athletic person to Huber star WWE, superstar. Gosh, everyone here. I mean, of course, Sarah motto has been was the best coach. She really helped me so much and allowed me to like have my personality. And she, I think she knew that I. Use that to the best of my ability. And she would no answer here do this here because you can go out there and do the moves all you want. But if you don't have some sort of connection with the audience and you don't have that personality where people are like, oh, I hate her. Oh, she's cool. Then you're not really going to get the reactions you want. Right, right. Obviously dream was such a huge influence with our promos and for me characters, most of our mouths. I hope the law and I always credit Byron Saxton. He helped me as much as you know. He hates me now on TV, but he helped me so much coming up with the Carmella character and the little mannerisms, and it just like brought it to life. Nobody ever mentions Byron Saxton away, let I always credit him because he helped me so much. I came to him and I was like, had this idea for Carmelo. She's like this mafia, mob, wife, Princess, and he was like, and then we're just talking into going over a promo for promote class Moore sitting in his office. Is that Carmella is like, yeah, and then I'm like, he's maybe you should do a problem on page because she was an XT women's champion at the time. So yeah, that's a great idea. And he's like page, what is that? Like a book a something page and I was like, oh, this is Carmelo. This is exactly what I want, and it was just like snowballed from there. He's amazing. Did you think when when when you were standing when you were part of the takeover. Barclay center. The first one. Did you think that that was going to be the biggest thing that you ever did in that moment? I mean, because it was so like it was such a departure. I think people almost take for granted that annexed runs in arenas now, but that first Brooklyn takeover was such a special show because it was such a departure and it wasn't even supposed to be a full arena show, but it was like the the loyalty to the brand in the talent that was on the show, made it. It kind of forced the hand to be like, no, we're selling the whole building out. Did you realize that there were still more moments to come after that that would that would Trump that or. Oh, I don't know. It's so crazy to look back at that time and NFC and how it got to where it was. You know everyone that was here was putting in the work and on the grind all the time. And then when you you're there and you're seeing and you're feeling is moments all never forget when we were at tick over London. It was kind of the same thing, but like everyone was backstage and it was like, whoa, like we did this. It was as not one person in particular. It was everyone's efforts and everyone coming together. To like, follow their dreams and just turn it into what it was. It was like super magical. And everyone was just like, this is nuts. Is there anybody in an exterior may young class agreement on the main roster that you haven't wrestled yet that you're like, that's my next person. Oh, somebody that I really liked to work with l. a. love to work with Sasha. I think it'd be really cool. You know, I think we both have big personalities and we never really got to have an opportunity in next tea. So I think it'd be really cool. Well, I heard you already you. I think pleasantly surprised that you're ranking in the game. Yeah, I haven't eighty. That's a solid b. if nine inching towards a plan Carmella I will take it right. I don't even know what I was last year. Public fifty. You're doing eighty. I think the two k. nineteen represents where you are going into two in one thousand nine and I hope that sense. I feel like I've been flattering and some of my statements that next time we speak, you'll be more flattering towards me Sam, you know, I love you. I just love. I put that on the record. I just love to give similar hard time and this is the best. It's tough to argue the troll thing. It's really tough. Thank you. Thank you. I really do enjoy Carmella now before we get into the interview with Shane obeys, ler you guys know, right? We all go to live events. All of us go to wrestling shows. I would think that everybody listens to this podcast either has gone to a wrestling show or wants to go to a wrestling show. Even if you haven't been to a wrestling show, you've been to a concert. You've been to a sporting match. You've been to a comedy, show Broadway, whatever it is. We all know the trials and tribulations the perils of going to live events because we don't want to leave the house to get tickets. 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Like when you're using gaming to decompress because that's the only thing that I do video games. It's just like shut my brain off, but I think sometimes like if there were a camera on me right now, I'd be like, okay, I kinda got a at least be aware of it. Right? Like it's not full decompression, you're performing, you know you're, you're doing something for an audience. What were your? What are your games of choice right now? Right now I'm playing octopus traveler on the switch. Which is kind of a turn based kind of final fantasy. Ish. It's made by square. So same same developers, and then I'm playing Paladins with a group of friends almost every night, and that's a like overwatch on steroids. So it's, it's, it's it's awesome. Is it mind blowing? I saw you looking at your entrance for the first time earlier. Like is it mind blowing to see you and like the like the characters are. So like I know you say, like every year, like they're more and more detail, but some of this stuff is insane. Like I literally was watching the game play and like you think, for second like, oh, this must be like an interstitial video and you're like, oh, no, this is a straight game plans. Like to see me recognizably me because I was like anyone would try to create myself. Right. And then like even on some of the earlier games there weren't women yet. So I'd try to create what I think the male really, but like so it's pretty wild to walk in and see. Me in the menu and it's and it's like I can point and be like, that's me like, yeah, that is definitely right. And it's moving like you and it's and it's and it's. Yeah, and and and it's better than any creative players that you've ever done. It's amazing feeling a lot has happened for you since coming to WWE like really pretty quickly like coming off for the first may young where it was like, oh, cool, shayna bazars here because you, you got a reputation for yourself on the wrestling circuit PWG did a lot of that, and and you know, people were excited that you were here. I don't think anybody realized how quickly coming off of may young. You'd end up like a super Don dominant annex t women's champion. You're you're in the conversation all the time for who's coming up to the main roster baba. You're in this video game. Like it's gotta be pretty wild to have this much stuff happening this quickly. It's it's interesting because you know, obviously I didn't have like the traditional path that a lot of people have to get here. I came up through MMA. And I spent a lot of time of sixteen years and may and. You work hard. It's like wrestling in that you have to kind of give your life over to it. And the unfortunate or I previously would have said the unfortunate thing is that it never may. The time where I was really, really knew it wasn't it didn't. It wasn't popular. It was like before women were in the NFC. Right? Like, and by the time, all that sort of paying off, I was kind of like falling out of it. And so it's weird to you get kind of got kind of little payoff for work so. Right because I mean, that's that's a people forget like before Rhonda did. What Rhonda did Dana white was literally going out and saying there will never be winning in USC. You can quote him. He said, there was no. Yeah. And so you know, for the majority of Miami career was just working your butt off because because you loved it being good for the sake of being good. Yeah. And so it's it's it's cool to see and it's not straying from my mixed martial arts path at all being trained under Josh Barnett and Bill Robinson, and those guys in catch wrestling four, my Emma. And if you kinda know the history of how this all comes about in catch wrestling, you have to kind of like, do the mixed rules kind of play stuff before they would allow you to do professional wrestling. And so to kind of be here, it's it's the pass of, it's like the natural progression of my martial arts career, and then have it finally pay off and it's like you work for so long with such little payoff. You forget it. It's. It's not a, it's not supposed to be that way. Right? Gonna pay off some. So it's cool to in on some level, right? Like the sixteen years of 'em may not paying off. This is the payoff for that too. It's not like you did a year of of of performance enter stuff, and now you're a wrestler, like that's all part of what you do now. Yeah, absolutely. And I think if I would have done it any other way, I wouldn't be who I am and what I am in the ring outside the ring. I wouldn't be where I'm at today and you. It's such a cliche thing, right? Like everything happens for a reason. But yeah, seriously, like I, I wouldn't change anything. And in those moments, it's like, man, I lost. I want that back. I want to win, but if if it would have gone any other way, it wouldn't be quite the same. And I'm was there any intimidation on your part when you find out like, okay, I'm gonna go right to the top of the women's division. Like I'm going to be the Representative of annex t and the women here I'm getting the title I'm going to be dominant his champion. Like that's a lot of weight on your shoulders. It's. It's interesting because having the title and representing in the next title is very revered in its history and highly regarded. But on top of that. The style of wrestling I bring in the way I would come against through catch wrestling and and billion, Josh. It's not a thing that's it's not a style that's like super popular. Like in the WWE especially amongst the women. I, I mean, you know. So I think even more added weight to that, is that what I'm representing as far as my coaching and how I've come up, you know what? You have to prove to people that this is like something you're not. This isn't what you're used to seeing, but it's really good. Yeah, exactly. And it's and it's and it's it's taken some time, but I think people are starting to, you know, people are starting to see an end. The fact that I've stayed true to my lineage and not strayed and started doing backflips and stuff just to get people to to to think. I know what I'm doing. It's it's that is almost more important to me than the fact that the NFC title is so revered itself. Yeah, yeah. When did you really start to feel comfortable in an x. t. like in an annex t ring, like I know what I'm bringing to the table. I'm I, I know that people are aware of my style and are here to see my style. Now. People are buying tickets to see it like, when did you go like? Yup. Shayna baiser is here. It's it's, it's really cool because I think in MMA I had such a negative backlash of the fans after one of my losses that I learned. That's not the majority, you know, they always talk about the vocal minority on social media. And so I think coming here, I knew to kind of just put put away. That that aspect. I, I know that when the crowd reacts, so when I'm in the ring and I'm like, bending his arm away, it's not supposed to go. And the crowd can collectively gasp. Like I know you mean like rice, and I think that's, that's. That's where I started. I think one time I was doing this. And maybe I just got so used to people not understanding what it was or whatever. But I remember I did this in the crowd gasp, and I remember having this kind of weird. Inside out of body. I don't know how to explain it, but I remember being really. Inside. So then you know, just being confident in what you're doing. I think the crowd reads confidence more. If I if I were to like bend someone's arm and then be like, right, they they would be able to tell. But if I'm just like right then then they know. So I think just realizing that has like catapulted. There's that great moment that like they replayed one hundred times with Dakota KYW right where she had her elbow and just the just the going backwards because you know wrestling fans, whether we know what we're looking at are not our conditions, WWE fans to be like, this is the way about moves. This is the way wrestling moves look. So when somebody like you comes in and is moving your opponents body in the way that like I haven't seen, no, that's not supposed to be the way it is. You know, they talk about like in the attitude era, they said that that that wrestling really gets good when people go like why? No, it's to show, but that's real. And I feel like your style brings that element except into the ring where you know, you don't really traditionally see that. Right? And I think that's just the again, going back to like how how I came through or not changing anything. I always I used to tell Josh that Billy Bill Robinson had passed away before I started doing pro wrestling and I trained with Billy for Emma may and I would say to Josh lake, I'm really bummed that I didn't get a chance to to train with him now that I'm wrestling and he said, it's Billy, you would a train you exact same way. And so I think. Just that just that I have learned to do things in such a way that it's your, you'd be hard pressed to see me do something different way in a may if you to look it up, then I do it here. And I think that's, that's. I, that's why I'd say it like, I'm the reality that you meet when you get in there. Right? Right. Do you think that your success the way fans responded to you encouraged Rhonda to think realistically about this to try. This is like, yeah, this is something that I've like. Obviously, she grew up a fan, but seeing you succeed at the level that you've been succeeding at two that make her go like, oh, there's a spot for women like us. They're actually truthfully. The fact that that I was so happy and having so much fun doing what I was doing. Turned around onto pro wrestling more than than fans and things like that. She, you know, she was in a spot where she maybe it was a little jaded and I had that too. Just she was on a much bigger scale obviously than me. And so I think her seeing we had similar paths and then seeing that. It's like kind of nerdy, but like seeing my final form. Yeah, actually happen. And then like I think that's what did it. And she always said, she's the one that said, you know, if I hadn't ended up losing on the ultimate fighter where I was like expected to win that whole show up losing. I wouldn't have gone to stay at her house and just had wrestling on every night, and that's kind of how she got back into it, you know? So it's, it's, it's just what do you watch and when you're watching wrestling every night at that point in your life, like when you're like, you know what? I need to decompress from all this because that's another decompression tool, right as rest. That's that's. I mean, the same for me fighting was not allowed to be talked about when we were done training, right? Let's turn on w network or whatever it is. What were you watching to take your brain off of things. At that point in time, the girls. So like I just have watched wrestling forever. Yeah, the girls started watching and it was when Daniel Bryan was doing the story line with the Wyatt family, and so they got really involved. And that's what kind of got them. And then it was specifically one day Rhonda I think was gone and had a fight and me and just left at home marina, went with Rhonda to help her weight, and we weren't going to like a day or two later because there's a whole mediaweek before fights and stuff that we didn't really need to be there for. And we were just sitting one morning and the house was empty, and just turns me and goes shayna. I want you to show me historic pro wrestling matches, and I'm not joking. We spent. I hope to the the computer tower up to the TV and we spent from nine in the morning and we only stop to eat and get food until probably two AM and I'm showing her old school like WWE matches old school world of sports stuff. I'm showing her Japanese like a cure Hokkaido and all these like old school Japanese matches. We watch documentaries and just like went on this endless black hole, and I think that was the day that everything chained. Bats. Awesome. Yeah, I've had. I mean, there's nothing that a friend who doesn't watch. There's almost no better feeling like show me something cool and you're like, oh yeah. Yeah, you just start going through stone cold and undertaker stuff or whatever, like whatever it is. Like what level of education do you want on this right now? Because I'm ready for it. Well, evolution is of course coming up and this is a, I mean, this is a real good time to be a woman in this business. That's good at what she does. Is there anything you know you haven't been announced as doing anything on volition when that gets announced, there's going to be an all women's pay per view. Is there a fantasy match in your head that should you be on that show? This is the match that I want to have on that show. If I have anything to say about, I'm getting a crack at the title again, the NFC championship. Yeah. So if if. I'm going to be stirring the pot in whatever way I can try to get that. So we'll see is the four horsemen versus four horsewoman fantasy match that's been talked about for years? Is that something you you like, oh, yeah, I really want to or is that just sort of if they want to do that? I mean, we're the team and they can't even decide they're not even getting along right now. If they want to pretend that they're a team in, we'll be able to get along long enough in the ring for us four that haven't ever had a dispute in the time we've known each other and have actually train together and actually live together moving together, not fighting with each other, right? That's like unheard of for buried people. You know. Yeah. Like just if they, if they for whatever reason think they can keep their stuff together. I mean, they're going to counseling to be friends. That's a great point. We're saying I'm such a fan of of what you do and it's so fun to watch. You just get better and better and better. So congratulations on being in into nineteen and thanks for talking shoes me in the menu. Did you see what you're rating was by the way? Yeah. What is it. Okay. Are you happy with that? Okay. Room for improvement in two case one? Okay. Okay. All right. Well, now to k. knows, thanks here is Sam rubber boots. So thanks again to two k nineteen for inviting me and a bunch of us down to the performance center. Like I said before, if you want to see the video of the tour that we got of the WWE performance center, then you've got to become a not Sam Schill at patriotair dot com slash not Sam wrestling. Of course, this podcast goes up at least twelve hours early or so and add free. I over there and the videos of everything are going to be available. I patriarch dot com slash not Sam wrestling, although you can of course keep listening to the podcast for free and the videos. Eventually not the tour of the performance center that's going to be exclusive to patriotic dot com. Slash not Sam wrestling for the not Sam shells, but the video, the interviews, of course, as always will eventually be up on the YouTube channel, the Joey. Giannella was Betsy Joey, Ryan, the Joey genera and Simona Joe interviews both went up on the YouTube channel. They've been on patriotic ever since those podcast episodes came out. But both those interviews went up on the not Sam YouTube channel this week. So lots of content going everywhere. How about that Carmelo rap. I think that that Carmelo rap needs to the free style needs to be its own video that goes across social media. Especially, you know, she did say, Leah, I think, but who's counting, right? What difference does it possibly make? It's that we know what it is. We know who she is. We know what she meant by it. Let's not. Let's not be detailed. Picking a little details nitpicking. Everything come on. She's entertaining, Shane obeys lawyer. It's so cool to get to talk to Shane because I don't think. I mean, we all know that she's a wrestling fan, right? Like we all know that I could tell that she's having fun when I asked her about her success in wrestling being a motivating factor for Ronda. Rousey. The question that was in my mind was because in my mind before I'd never, I, I'd say Hello is I exchange pleasant? Pleasantries which Shane obeys later before that interview. Obviously I've, I've, I've said Hello to her backstage in events and things like that, but I'd never really had an extended conversation before the conversation that you just heard was shayna and my assumption in watching the way she worked in knowing what I know about her history. My assumption is that she's having the time of her life. I don't see how you could be on trajectory that chain obeys Laura's on and not be having the time of your life. So the question in my head was it. You having the amount of fund that you're having doing this? Was that a factor that pushed Rhonda Rousey to become a superstar now, I didn't want to ask it that way because they didn't want assume that she was having fun. She hadn't told me she was having fun. So that's why the success was what pushed Ronda Rousey. And so it was so refreshing and amazing to hear her come forward with the information. It wasn't so much the successors. The fact that I was having a good time doing it, which is great and something you got to keep in mind like somebody like Ronda. Rousey financially doesn't have to be a WWE superstar. The UFC fights that she had were big money fights. The movie roles that she got big money movie roles, and by the way she's. Talented, athletic beautiful. She could easily maintain a career in acting if that's what she wanted to do. But she came to the WWE and I mean, I, if you're watching programming, I think it's obvious to me that this is not either comparisons and I was on the shining wizards podcast this week, and they, they talked about Ronda Rousey being the female Brock listener. Ronda. Rousey is not the female Brock Leser, and I think that it's an unfair. Comparison that's made only because she was also a dominant m a fighter. The same way. Brock listener was dominant may fire. That's kind of where the similarities end Ronda Rousey loves wrestling. Run. A recipe loves WWE, Brock listener in no way, shape or form loves WWE. When you look at Ronda. Rousey a young girl can sit there and say, one day I want to be like her. She's a role model. Brock listeners not a role model. He's a freak of nature, Brock, listener and Ronda. Rousey are two different things. Ronda Rousey is wrestling on raw. Brock listener is maybe wrestling in Saudi Arabia. If you give them a huge payday, let there's no to me. The only thing that Ronda Rousey and Brock listener have in common is that they both came from UFC and to think that if Ronda Rousey was intended to be the female Brock listener, why would she smile when she comes to the ring? The reason that Ronda Rousey smiles when she comes to the ring is to remind us that she is not a monster. She was actually a human being that is getting to live out a dream that many of us watching would love to be able to live out nothing about what Brock Leonard does allows us to vicariously live through Brock listener because the reality of that guy is not the reality of any human being that we've ever encountered. Ronda Rousey is there for people to live vicariously through and she happens to be Unal, eat level world athlete, you know, but she's not. The intention is not to portray her as some kind of genetic freak the way it is for Brock listener because I think Ronda Rousey. And the people behind Ronda Rousey would like her to be relatable to people. So I think that that was a great addition to the conversation that chain obeys are brought up. Is that Rhonda's here? Because she loves this stuff and because it's fun to do, and it's the same reason why Shane is here and really the same reason why Shane is successful is because she's enjoying what she's doing and it's clear, but I love that conversation. I mean, we've all had and we could probably do a whole show. That's really what the captive audience bonus show. The pops up on patriot dot com slash not Sam wrestling is all about is showing somebody who normally wouldn't be watching this stuff. Some of your favorite wrestling matches. There's not one of the great pleasures of being a wrestling fan is introducing other people and friends to some of the favorites stuff that you've watched maybe for years maybe for months, whatever it is. But I mean, you know, I've had I work on series with Jim Norton every morning and. I had my buddy Troy Kwan who's a producer on the show. Also, you know, how does the production for this podcast, the intro out tro and all that stuff. High animal over the house wants, and he's not a wrestling fan. He goes, show me something cool and I just got to sit there showing him stone, cold match after stone call match after stone, cold match, and he was blown away and it was one of my favorite things that I've gotten to do with him just because it's so much fun to show somebody who's not familiar with the stuff. The cool stuff that wrestling is to get to do it from your perspective as a fan and to get to see that energy get transferred over onto him so much fun so much fun. So is great talking to everybody. Nakimora Carmella and Shane obeys ler last week at the performance center and next week here on the podcast, we're going to have even more interviews from the WWE performance center. I did want to touch on before we get into the state of wrestling Cody Rhodes had a quote, come out, I believe on Twitter, where I, he said somebody said, are you a healer face? And Cody Rhodes said, I'm a wrestler. There is no more heels in faces. And I think that that's true outside of WWE because and I think Cody would probably agree with me. I think this is what he was getting at. It's guys that aren't necessarily exclusive to one show where there's one storyline because the story line, quote, unquote of the Cody Rhodes character and the young bucks character is something that is in ring of honor, but it's also outside of ring of honor. It's something that goes over to all in to new Japan to being the NWEA champion. Now it goes beyond ring of honor. I think when you're a bigger part of the wrestling world as a whole, there's going to be nights where your heel, there's going to be night for your baby face. There's going to the different crowds are gonna react to you differently in different situations. So I think in cody's situation and guys like Cody, he's right, did Joey now is in there everybody in the elites in there. You know, MJ f might be the exception to that because m j f is the one sort of solid obvious. He'll in all of that, but. Think I think Cody makes a great point there, but he made an even better point when somebody asked him, you know, somebody said something about the fans being the ones that ruined the shows when they bring their beach balls and blah, blah, blah. And Cody said they can bring a thousand beach balls. They can boo everybody that they're not supposed to boot for. It's up to the performers to get the fans out of that. And I think there's one hundred percent true and I've said that on the podcast before that you can point out when a crowd is not the greatest crowd in the world and when they're a better crowd, you can. There's definitely that that's a reality. But the truth is that a great performer has to be able to get past that. And I think that that's what cody's point was, and I think that it's absolutely true that in any art form that is being made for a crowd, you can never blame the audience when something's not working, especially if it's consistently not working. You know, at the end of the day, the reason it's not working is because it's not being presented in a way that is is entertaining because. Wrestling is not in a crisis when it comes to fans, you know, there's, there's a lot of wrestling fans and there's a lot of wrestling to get cheered. So of wrestling is getting booed or getting a wave or getting beach balls while, you know, I would never hang out with a guy that brings a beach ball to a wrestling show, and I would never hang out with a guy who sits in an audience and tries to make it about himself. Your job is a performer is to first distract the crowd from the guy trying to make it about himself. So they're all turning to him and going like, what are you talking about? Dude, I'm enjoying this. Leave me alone, and Secondly is to get that guy out of his own head and force him into the show that that is being put on in front of him. So I think that's a great point by Cody, and I find myself agreeing with him. Now I hope that you'll agree with me when I tell you what time it is, and it is time for the state of wrestling. It's now time for this week's state of wrestling, you bet it is. Time for this week's state of wrestling. Thank you very, very much. Now I wanted to start to state of wrestling segment by the way, of course, this segment is available on video. The only place to get the complete video of the state of wrestling if you wanna see me. Yep, uncontrollably about wrestling for a while. The only place to see the entire video is if you are a not Sam Schill at patriotair dot com slash not Sam wrestling and the video of course goes up same day that the podcast gets released. So check that out. I wanted to start this week by talking about how I started last week and that is with the faction list. So I did the top ten factions. I redid WWE's top ten faction list, and there were a couple of factions that I didn't mention that I meant to, and it was brought up to me a few times on Twitter. Number one, I actually didn't the von Eric's. I didn't put them on the list because I don't think the divine Eric's our top ten in the sense that the von Erich Riveria very important for the world class. Territory in that time, but I really think it was the free birds and the influence of the free birds that. Kind of brought wrestling into sports entertainment. That's why I think the, I think I think the influence of the free birds traveled far beyond world class and that era, whereas the von Erich if I were doing a top twenty factions for sure the von Eric's are making it. But for me, not top ten, the Heenan family with the other one. And I've written down the Heenan family, and I meant to talk about the Heenan family and why they weren't making my top ten list. And that's because you know, I said most of the three man Team New day demolition teams like that. I don't consider them factions because they exist as tag teams. I don't consider the Heenan family a faction because for the most part, the Heenan family was referred to by commentators and it was the the group that linked Bobby Heenan with everybody. But you didn't see like Bobby Heenan would not come out and cut promos with the entire Heenan family behind him very often. Very. Very seldom for survivor series. Yes, he didn't stable would come together, but very, very seldom with the Heenan family actually act as a stable, free birds always together nation of domination, always together corporate ministry, always together every week. Those factions stay together. Heart foundation shield n. w. o. DX when they come out, they are representing the faction every single time with the Heenan family. Those were individuals that happen to have a manager in common, and that is not to me a faction because they did not each individual member of that faction did not work for the end goal of the team. They just all happen to have the same manager. So for me, the Heenan family is not affection, and that's why it didn't make my top ten list. If we're gonna talk about managers, Bobby Heenan is going to be number one. You know, it's just factions were specifically what we were talking about. Let's get into talking. Let's get into. Story number five, this week, and that is my rundown of Helena. Sal. Of course, Helena Sal, went down last Sunday on the WWE network. It was free for new subscribers. The replay is now free for new subscribers. So check that out. That's a good way of selling it right. But you know, I was I was, I don't even want to say pleasantly surprised by Helena sell. I think that WWE is really getting good at creating these dual branded pay per view. I think when WWE started with backlash earlier this year, not the greatest start, but I think they're really figuring out, okay. Who do we highlight? What match order? Do we put it in? How long should it be? This one was actually under the main show pre show course was an hour, but if we're just counting the main show, it was actually just under it was about three hours and forty five minutes, which is about it was felt like a good time to me. The show felt like it had a good pace every match on the show mattered. Of course, there were people conspicuous by their absence in Ballard, not being on the show. Lots of people not being on the show, Sasha banks, Bailey, but you couldn't look at that show and go, yeah, and I would take this person off to put this person on. Now, if we start to go down. The matches themselves. I thought that the pay per view was very good in the sense that there were many great matches. There were many very good matches. You know? I mean, I it makes it sound like there were one hundred matches. There were several great matches. There were several very good matches and some okay stuff going on. I thought smackdown came out the big winners of the night. I thought everything smackdown did work to a t. I mean, look at the three big matches that smackdown presented, right? Not even bringing up the tag title match from the pre show. But if you start with the Helena Sal match that opened the show to me. By far the better of the two Sal matches Randy Orton, Jeff hardy in a match that people weren't even sure why. What was in a Helena sell brought the house down. It was one of the most brutal matches in this era of WWE and for anybody that was worried about Randy Orton in the sense that Randy has been around for a while, maybe some fatigue setting in for Randy Orton. You know, some of the storylines he's been in haven't been the best. The ginger Mahal story was it just went on forever. The brave y. It story didn't pan out. Anybody worried about that? Randy Orton was made again, not that he needed to be made, but Randy Orton was made in this match. I mean, that ear spot with the screwdriver and the and the extended whatever. It's called cartilage stuff in Jeff Hardy's ear where he put the screwdriver in and started twisting it even if there was no danger, even if it didn't hurt at all. Even if Jeff Hardy's years have been like that forever, it looked amazing. It looked awesome. The last spot in the match. I thought it was good. You know, of course wouldn't have been better if it were timed a little bit better. Sure. But did Jeff hardy did rainy Orton and Jeff hardy? Not match on time on purpose? No, I think if you ask Jeff hardy and Randy Orton Jeff would have rather jumped a little sooner or Randy would've rather jumped off the table a little later. So would have looked a little bit more, but regardless scaling the top of that, Helena, Sal, and falling down through the table. Not something that I believe has been done in. VW before there was a similar spot in TNA, but not something that's been done in WWE's Helena south format before, which is a big fan of that match. And I think it did a lot to bring Randy Orton forward. I'd love the whole pacing smackdown show this week. You know, I watching it. I was like this. One of the issues that raw has is it feels formulaic. I know. I know I can set my clock to raw when the undertaker comes out. I know I'm like, oh, it must be nine. Like I don't get lost. I don't. What time is it or ten whenever it is, I know it's the top of the hour. You know what I mean? I can set my clock to exactly how raw is going to run. Whereas smackdown is especially this week I was like, I don't know. Like I figured I was like, I, you forget, that segments are coming. You go is Samoa Joe and AJ or I'm sorry, AJ and Andrey. Are they just gonna take the rest of the show? Are they gonna? Do. A forty minute match because I could see that happening and you're like, okay, and then there's the other men. Then you go. It's nine, forty, five, nine fifty. What's next? And you go, oh, I forgot there's the whole Becky Charlotte thing, and just the timing of the segments and wear stuff lands on the show. I just thought I think they do a great job of highlighting everybody in the two hours and keeping it in such a way that you're on your toes, which is very important in wrestling. And what reminded me of that was again, the Randy Orton segment, you know, Randy Orton being in the production truck, they just gave Randy Orton to to our show, not three hours and they're trying to highlight everything. They're trying to have great matches and promos spots and stuff that's building character and all this stuff. And they give Randy Orton three minutes if that may be too in that production truck and clearly right away, we know exactly who and what Randy Orton is in that moment, you know, and and that just it stuck out to me is great. We move on to the WWE championship match between AJ styles and Samoa. Oh, I thought it was a great way. First of all, the match itself was incredible. No surprises there. I thought it was a great way to bring them into super showdown where there's an excuse for a third match where traditionally it's like, oh, AJ one, this one, Samoa one that one. So now we have a third match where we find out who the real winner is. Instead, you've got creative finishes on both matches where it didn't leave you flat. You know, the disqualification at summer slam did not leave me feeling flat where a lot of title match disqualifications do and this one where it's like, yeah, technically AJ styles one, but technically joke could have won. It didn't leave me feeling flat. It left me curious about what the next story was. You know. Smackdown has run into problems in the past with putting on match after match over the same matches over and over again. I thought, you know, as I said before, the Randy gender stuff got old quake and it was not good AJ nakimora eventually we got tired of seeing people kick each other in the dick. I think you know, it brought us to a great character place for nakimora. I like where brought him, but in terms of being excited about the actual AJ nakimora story, I was like, I don't need to see anymore dick kicks. So the fact that they're now going into their third pay per view, because let's consider super showdown a pay per view. They're going into their third big pay per view with this as the title match, and I'm not fatigued by it. I'm excited about it especially since it's a no holds barred match. I feel like the story is just been told beautifully. You know, I talked with Samoa Joe here on the podcast. You can go back a few episodes and downloaded if you didn't hear it or check out the video on YouTube. Right before summer slim and talked about how for me, what made their stories special was that they're not relying on history for it. What they're doing instead is telling a great story about age as family and Samoa. Joe is coming across as more villainous than he ever has. And the whole thing they could just say, hey, these guys have a history. Can you believe it's happening and WWE, but that's not where they're going. They're creating a great story that's got us interested in it. And that is what has allowed us to carry this three pay per views. I believe that they've actually learned from the nakimora experiment. The nakimora AJ styles experiment, I should say they've said, okay, like this match was kind of built on their history. And while it's exciting, it's not enough to carry a WWE championship rivalry. So what are we gonna do create this great story with the family and Joe and I just, yeah, I was a fan of it. I thought it was great and seeing Samoa Joe vulnerable after the match seeing him, lose his cool seeing him upset. I thought that added a layer to Samoa Joe and actually made it so that even though AJ you could argue that he lost that match because he did tap out psychologically for the first time he's gained an advantage over Samoa Joe because we saw Simona gel mentally vulnerable in that moment. So I thought I thought it was just great and Charlotte versus Becky, of course, is the third big smackdown match, which I think those might be the three best matches of the paper of you to tell you the truth. That's how good night smackdown head. And I. I thought Charlotte versus Becky was a great match. I loved the way it ended. I loved it. It kind of ended out of nowhere. I liked it Becky one clean, and there was some people saying that that was the moment to turn Becky face, and I don't think so at all. You know, I think if Becky had a given up on this, he'll run at that moment, then it would have made the last month even more ridiculous because she turned on her best friend. She keeps saying she's being slighted. She's not been giving a chance to Charlotte trying to push her into the shadow. So when she does finally win, why would she then all of a sudden be friends with Charlotte. I thought that the the idea that she not only would not shake Charlotte hand after the match, but then goes on to smackdown and attacks her and tells her to put the belt around my waist. Call me Queen drops that bitch word. Again, I was like, yeah. And now that she's the champion, she's actually lost some. Mm sympathy. So I think the idea of making her a, he'll is a lot easier when she's the champion. Then when she's not, nobody could boo her as champion because I mean, nobody could when she wasn't champion because she kind of did get screwed out of it. And we wanted to see his champion now that she's champion and she's not being nice about it. There's a little bit of a reason to Buor. I still don't think many people boo her, but I think that that's fine now now it's okay. I think we're actually in a pretty good place with the Charlotte, Becky thing. Raw did good. I thought Rhonda and Alexa was good. My my only hang up and we'll talk about the cell match a little more as the stories progress here on the state of wrestling. I thought that even though Roman won the championship at summer slam the fact that Braun had come out promised to cash in and then not delivered made it. So the end of summer slam felt like what I thought we were, it's over. To I felt the same feeling. I felt the same feeling at Helena sell when Brock listener came out, jumped both of them. You know, even if. I feel like it would have been better if Brock listener because we've been for weeks. Mick Foley was the referee. He went through the cage. He went off the cage like he took the most damage anybody's ever taken. He continued the match, Jeff hardy fell off the roof. Randy Orton insisted on pinning. I'm finished the match. You know, that's the whole point of Helena, Sal. That's what we were leading to. I think what I would have done and it would have gotten the same result, but it would have left you feeling a little less like was have Brock Leser, throw Roman reigns on top of bronze, Stroman. Say count and make Mick Foley count as Roman reigns, who's out like a light technically pins Braun strowman so he wins the match because now you've got a scenario where bronze mad because Brock legitimately cost him the match, and that was his money in the Bank cash. And it wasn't a no contest Roman one and Romans mad because that's not the way he wanted to win. He doesn't need Brock's help to win this match. Now you're saying, why would Brock. Do that. Why would Brock put Roman, keep the title on Roman and that's because Brock wants to the same way. Roman took the title from Brock Brock wants to take the title back from Roman. So Brock doesn't want brunch drum into be the champion, although he doesn't really care. He just also kind of knows it'll piss off Roman to just throw him on top. It was really just his notice to them to say he's back and we'll talk about the fact that Brock is back later on. But that's my only thing that I would have changed up about Helena sell. That's how I would have changed that ending just so you left at least even though it wasn't a full victory, at least you left on an ending to the match, not sort of like logically, this doesn't really make sense. You know, story number four, zero five. Live is on Wednesday nights. Now some people like it. Some people don't like it. Of course to five live is taped now. They're not gonna change the show name to two, oh, five taped to five. Live is like now live. It's like five alive. It's like is five actually alive? No, but it exciting. So it's. Alive. So I think that's how they'll use the word live, which is fine. Who cares. I don't think that there is anything bad about this move whatsoever. You know, I don't think. I think the idea of two or five live was on USA then I would say keep it on on Tuesday nights right after smackdown. But when you've got, so now you've got mixed match challenge coming on. Right? So the idea is what you're asking WWE is asking their audience to do tune in to smack down on the USA network. As soon as it's over, grab your computer, go to Facebook to watch mix match challenge as soon as that's done. Turn on the apple TV and watch WWE network. It's too much. It doesn't make sense. It didn't make sense when they did it. The last mix match challenge. She can't just send your people from place to place to place to place. So instead they're making it easy, mixed match challenges on Facebook. You probably got your laptop out anyway or your phone. You're tweeting while smack downs on open up. Facebook, there's more matches for you. Okay. That's easy to five live. I think he's going to benefit because you're already sending people to the network. You've now got a block of programming. You got to five live, then annexed t then the may young classic. So. I think it's going to benefit the network in the sense that you've got a Wednesday night lineup now programming that his new wrestling WWE wrestling shows WWE meaning the overall bracket not the main roster, but like may young into all that stuff. So you've got, you've got a lineup, you've got a reason to turn the network on, and it's not like just because you know to a five live is one hour, you know, are you gonna turn on the network for just one hour, maybe some of you will, but a lot of people won't. But what if I told you there was three hours of wrestling on, I want to check out the lineup and it's three different shows. That's fun. So I don't think there's going to be an issue. I don't think spoilers will be an issue with two. Oh, five live. I just don't think that it's that type of show. I also think that the inclusion of some of the two five live stars on raw is going to help them immensely. You know, I think. Drake being on with the authors of pain, I think is great. It's great for others a pain because they're finally winning matches and Drake is doing a a really good job in that position. But I was so happy last week we saw vignette and I was hoping it would end up being something like this Leo rush who we talked about Leo on the Joey generic podcast, a few weeks ago which you can download her watch on YouTube, but Leo rush did so incredibly well. This week on Monday night raw. I was just over the moon, happy for the guy. I mean, everything he did from coming out and cutting that promo to jumping on commentary to doing the spots where he's doing leap frogs and flips and everything it is so easy up until and who even knows when Bobby Lashley put him up on his shoulders and he fell backwards who even knows if he did that on purpose. So he can do the full sit up or if he's just that good and in the moment was like, let me save it. One day I want to interview him and I want to ask him that his first night on raw, did he fall off his shoulders and save it? Or did he do that on purpose just to show that core strength because my God, it was impressive. But I thought Leo rush did so so well on raw. You know, there's been some question about whether he's going to be like a heel manager for Bobby Lashley, but no, no, there is nothing. He'll about what we saw from Leo rush on raw. I mean, every you had you could not not love what you saw from Leo rushed the way he can escape the bad guys jumping over Kevin Owens and and doing flips off the ropes and going under legs and stuff like that. It's just it was so fun, so fun. So even if he is a, he'll onto, oh, five, live a little bit. And even if he does have an ego about him, I think he's going to work. I think it's going to do wonders for Bobby Lashley. I think he's going to be able to be a baby face on raw, and I think that it's going to bring is two to five live on Wednesday night. So I think it's, I think it's kind of really good. For everybody involved speaking to people involved story number three. This week is a meeting that reportedly all the wrestling websites are saying, all the dirt sheet says they were car saying that there was some kind of meeting taking place between impact and WWE up in Stamford this week and kind of everybody's been theorizing on what that could be. And. It could be a lot of things. You know, I don't think. WWE is gonna buy impact wrestling, you know, I don't think that there is any. I don't think that there's a huge. Value to the brand at this moment. I think that the brand is building right now. You know, I think ever since Don callous and those guys took over TNA the TV that they've been putting out as much much better. But I think he's got a long way to go before we sit there and go like, oh, WWE wants to buy TNA. I do think that there's a high likelihood that the WWE might be trying to buy out the impact tape libraries, cause. I mean, think about it. You've got Eric, y'all, Bobby rude, Samoa, Joe AJ styles. You got stuff from Booker t, you got a ton of Kurt angle stuff. You got a ton of Bobby Lashley stuff. You have a lot of footage from current superstars. You know, and it's been referenced and it's popped up in like the table for three. It's popped up on DVD's. Like I think that there is a scenario where WWE may be trying to either license or buyout footage, but that's what I believe the meeting was about. I believe, in my personal opinion, I have not talked to anybody about it. I have no idea. But if I had to guess, I would think that the meaning is about video footage because I can't. I mean, I guess it could be a talent exchange, but I don't know amongst who you know WWE is so good at acquiring talent at this point. I don't know unless, and you know it's not like it's going to be a relationship like WWE had with CW because WWE would send newer guys to e c w to get used to wrestling in front of crowds, and maybe wrestling a little bit on television and then bring them back, but they've got an x t now. So there's really no reason to send anybody to TNA to learn how to wrestle on TV because they can learn how to wrestle on. UW ETV now with that x t. So I think odds are this was a meeting about videotape footage, but really, really interesting that it's happening. And I think it goes back to the point that we've made on the show before about WWE's willingness to work outside of the company, and you see that all over. You know, I think we've talked about it with the art of rob schamberger. Who does the watercolor paintings that are now does prince and t shirts and he's at the WWE events and package. With Mattel, action figures, he's an independent contractor. He's outside of WWE. He was a guy doing watercolor paintings of wrestlers and WWE said, do some of these for us. You're not going to be a WWE employees per se, but we'll pay you to do some stuff. Look at Sam Robertson. Peter Rosenberg, the last professional broadcaster and Peter Rosenberg showing up on the pre ships, not WWE employees, not voices of the company coming in being outsiders and doing this look at Patna. Kaffee doing the same thing. You know, look at the way WWE has handled the the additions of guys like AJ styles and Samoa. Joe even Bobby rude acknowledging their past embracing their past. You know, I think that the the WWE's far less of a bubble than it ever has been in the past and they're far more willing. Look at the DVD's they've put out to see 'em punk, the Kevin Owens DVD's that had ring of honor footage all over it. WWE is far more willing to go outside of itself than it ever ever ever has been before. And its left us in a position where who knows what can happen. The world is are always Stor you have is getting mentioned on a regular basis on WWE TV. Brag listener could walk into the octagon with the universal championship. You know, it's not. It's not sort of this is WWE world and we don't acknowledge anything outside of it anymore, which I think is good because you know the world has opened up. Now the internet has opened up the world. Completely. So there's no way that you can insulate yourselves, right? There's no way you can insulate your audience to only know your product. So instead embrace the stuff that's going on outside, and I think that's what WWE is doing. And that's why I think that if anything, this is a meeting about footage, let's move on to story number two. And that is couple tidbits about super showdown. Number one, show Michaels and Kane being added into the triple h undertaker match with Shawn, Michaels triple h is corner and Kane is an undertaker's corner. Now, ever since Shawn Michaels did the segment on raw people have been speculating if Shawn Michaels is going to wrestle the undertaker wrestlemainia or at the at the crown jewel show. If it's going to turn into a tag match it, whatever. I don't think any of this is setting up a show Michael's return necessarily. You know, I think that I think that the Sean Michael segment on raw, it was just people wanna see Shawn, Michaels return so much that it almost and to some extent did overshadow what it was actually supposed to do, which is just sell you on the fact that triple h versus undertaker is a big deal. And that's because Shawn Michaels vs undertaker is arguably a bigger deal. Some people argue that Shawn Michaels versus the undertaker is the greatest WWE match of all time because wrestlemainia and I'm not even talking about young, Shawn, Michaels vs undertaker. I'm talking about the end. I'm talking about wrestling twenty five, twenty six. That trauma goes versus undertaker is the best. Match in the WWE's history. So of course, people are gonna wanna see that match again and you know, I don't. I, I don't think. I don't think if Sean comes back, that's the match that he does, but he might. I mean, if Sean does come back for one more match, it's going to be a match that like it has to be good. He has to trust his opponent. So maybe these guys trust each other. Maybe that could happen. I still don't think it's going to happen. You know, I think if Shawn Michaels comes back for one more match, I still my vote is strongly in the corner of doing a show. Michaels Tomasz. Oh, ciampa match. That's the match. I think Sean should come back for if he comes back for one more match. I don't think there's going to be a show on undertaker match. I don't think this is leading to anything between Sean and the undertaker. I think this is all just hype for the super showdown show in Australia, which is fine. I don't think that's a bad thing. I did it. It certainly adds a lot of star power to the match. I do wonder what they're going to do in Tennessee when they're mayors in Australia with a big red mask on, but. Cool to see Cain there. I do hope Kane comes out old school. Part of me wants to see Cain, come out like, you know, bad blood king nineteen Ninety-seven came. That's what I wanna see. Cain come out as you know to really honor that. Oh thing I certainly I, he'll probably come out in his newest attire, but he will certainly be masked because I don't think anybody wants to see corporate king come out with the undertaker. He wants the brothers of destruction Kane come out with the undertaker, but I think it adds a lot to it even if it's not setting up for show Michaels match. You know, what are the entrance is going to be like to Sean, get an entrance. It'll probably be, here's what I think Cain gets an entrance. Then Sean gets an entrance. Then hunter gets an entrance. Then undertaker gets an entrance and seeing all that back to back to back to back is gonna make you feel like it's an even bigger deal. Now we talked about AJ sows versus Samoa. Joe being added to that show as no disqualification match. The other match that was added to that show is Daniel Bryan versus the MS with the winner, getting an title opera. Unity at the WWE championship. So. You guys know that I booked Daniel Bryan in the MS to perfection a while ago, right? And it all. And in combination with the world title WWE championship MS versus Daniel Bryan with MRs champion, I still think MS needs to be champion. However. I would not be at all surprised and you gotta give me a week. I will make my full. Super showdown predictions probably next week on the podcast. But I would not be at all shocked. If Daniel Bryan wins the match at super showdown and I'll tell you why number one, you gotta stadium full of people international show you wanna baby face reaction. You know, you got to imagine. Roman reigns is going to be Brock listener. That's a baby face reaction. So maybe you'll have it there who knows what's going to happen between AJ and Samoa Joe. But if you have AJ and Roman winning their title matches, technically you've got your baby face reaction, so you might not need it from Daniel Bryan. However, I just worry sometimes and maybe I shouldn't be making predictions anymore because I worry sometimes that. It gets out there right? Like you know, the prediction gets made. It gets out there, and I've heard now since I've made that prediction. I'm not saying I came up with it but says I made that prediction or since I did that fantasy booking. I've heard other shows say, this is what you clearly need to do. And when I hear that coming from everywhere I go, if the WWE likes to do one thing, it's the one thing he didn't think was going to happen. I could see. Samoa Joe winning against AJ styles. Daniel. Bryan finally, beating the MS Samoa Joe beating Daniel Bryan at survivor series or crown jewel. Yeah, crown jewel is before survivor series. So here's in my mind right now today, and I could change all this next week. Here's what I would have happened because everybody's talking about Daniel. Bryan losing to them is again. So let's throw everybody for a loop. Daniel Bryan beats them is at super showdown becomes the next in line for title opportunity. Samoa, Joe beats AJ styles. Now you're onto something. Okay. So you're not doing the big baby face versus baby face? AJ styles. Daniel Bryan match, but Samoa Joe's got the WWE championship. We go to crown jewel a month later. It's Daniel Bryan versus Samoa. Joe. Daniel Bryan loses to Simone, Joe, because if Dana Brian wins that number one contender ship, then you're left going like, oh my God. What happens next? Which is kind of a WWE wants. They don't want you to be able to forecast these stories, you know miles out. So Daniel Bryan loses to Samoa Joe. You might even have some interference from the MS, but I don't necessarily think that you need it Samoa Joe retains. He goes on to survivor series. AJ gets his rematch, but the MS earns his way into a triple threat. So it survivor series is now a triple threat between AJ Samoa Joe. And the MS, the MS pins, AJ styles in that match. The Miz becomes the WWE champion in that match at survivor series. Now, Samoa Joe is in a rage because he didn't win now Samoa Joe because because he didn't get beat right. So we're going to do a heel versus heel thing and Samoa. Joe is actually going to kind of become a baby face for a little bit in the sense that we're going to have sympathy for them. So Malla Joe is going to fight them is in December. The MS is going to cheat to win Samoa. Joe is going to move on to fight them as again at the Royal rumble. The MS is gonna win. Again, AJ styles is going to enter the Royal rumble to get back what's his. And then we need to figure out who's gonna win the Royal rumble AJ styles or Daniel Bryan, we still get to the Royal rumble with the MS as champion. But now the conversation is who wins the Royal rumble, Daniel Bryan or AJ styles, and you know who wins the Royal rumble, some dude from raw and we go, what. A raw superstar wins the Royal rumble. We'll figure all that out later setting up the universal title-match. Maybe it's an Brock listener win. Who knows. Then. At the elimination chamber pay per view. AJ styles and Daniel Bryan fight to see who's going to be the number one contender. And I think at that point you'll be so mixed up in between who's who that we will actually be able to have a conversation if MS beats Daniel Bryan at super showdown, we will all be able to clearly see where this is going from now until wrestlemainia. That's not what WWE wants. If Daniel Bryan beats the MS, everything is mixed up and I've just took you on a road that will lead us to February where we will now discuss who's gonna win AJ styles or Daniel Bryan, which is the match that we want to see at wrestlemainia and we could figure it out then. But that's what I see for super showdown. If you ask me today, Brian beats them is then at super showdown, but he loses against Samoa, Joe who wins the championship only to lose a triple threat match. Even though he was never beat. And the MS picks up the championship at survivor series. Hey, I'm just one man who knows story number one this week is Brock is back Brock made his return at and we've, you know, we've gotten there by the way, read Helena, sell. If this showed been done over the weekend, it's all we would have been talking about. I'll tell you this about the red, Helena, Sal, because we didn't get to earlier. I think it looks less dangerous because it looks like a WWE property in that it's something that WWE made. So to me, it looks less familiar which to me makes it look a little, less dangerous, but whatever we'll maybe we'll talk about it more next week story. Number one, Brock listener returns. I thought the Brock listener return was great because people didn't expect it. You know, there were rumblings online that Brock was backstage at this pay per view. I think that they let that leak on purpose. Nothing most things on the internet. Arly dump purpose. But I think that was leaked on purpose. So that people would tune in and be like, no way. You know, a lot of people were acting as if after Brock lost at summer slam. He was gone from WWE and I think that WWE wanted to implant that in your brain. I think for the first time we don't really know what Brock lasers contracts. Data says. Even Dave Meltzer was saying that, like I think, man, I don't wanna site did Meltzer because I don't know for sure. And I feel like I, I don't know. I don't. I don't have any ill-will toward Dave Meltzer. I don't want to sign him, but I think there were dirt sheet reports that Brock listener was leaving after summer slam, and clearly that's not true, you know, and I don't think Brock listeners leaving anytime soon. You know his, his schedule might be a little bit even more. Touching go here and there. We'd never know when he's gonna show up, but I think that that'll be better for the Brock listener character. You truly never know when he's gonna show up. You know, maybe he's just back for this one match, right? Maybe they just wanted something huge for the Saudi show and they wanted to put this on. Keep in mind the last time we left Saudi Brock, listener beat Roman reigns, and Braun strowman ended the show holding a big green championship title up in the air. So it could happen. But I think it's a good thing. I think that it adds unpredictability to the show and it lets us know that it any moment brought could be back crown jewel. It's amazing because I had heard that this might be happening that there was a early November Saudi show that was in the works, and I kind of. Was like doing it in my head. I'm going. So now the idea of it and it actually is happening. We're now in a position where on Monday night, Ron and Tuesday, smackdown smackdown live. We are promoting. We are selling people on super showdown evolution and crown jewel. I'll tell you this. Anybody that has to do those networks cells where they go subscribe now because it's free for new subscribers. As of the beginning of October, as of super showdown. This is an easy sell. You could super showdown and crown jewel and Evelyn all in one technically, calendar month. Unbelievable. It's going to be interesting to see how they promote that. But maybe this is what the new face of WWE looks like. Just content content, content content, you know, I think it's, I think it'll be interesting. You know, as it pans out as the weeks go on, I think you know it's clearly strategic in the sense that ever Lucien and. Crown jewel can be promoted separately because clearly different superstars are going to be at the two shows right? Like the men aren't going to be at volition. So when we watch raw and we see Roman reigns in Braun strowman telling a story, this is going to be settled at crown jewel. When we see Alexa bliss and nyah jacks, or whoever it is, I'm just using women as an example, tell a story. This is going to be settled at volition, you know, I think in that sense, the storytelling it'd be much easier than it normally would. If you've got two big shows a week apart, but. You gotta tip your hat to just the level of production that the WWE is able to pull off. It's mind blowing that they're able to do as much as they're able to do. I mean, I can't imagine being a member of the WWE crew the behind the scenes crew that people that make all these shows it's more nonstop than it ever has been. But for a fan, it's as good as it ever has been because there's just so much stuff. I love it. I love it more better. More is better. And I hope you've enjoyed the show if you feel like more is better and you want more content from not Sam wrestling then hit us up on patriot become a not Sam shell at patriot dot com. Slash not Sam wrestling. We will see you next week right here on not Sam wrestling to Lou. Everybody. 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Where Is Shayna? - Notsam Wrestling 298

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Where Is Shayna? - Notsam Wrestling 298

"Today I'm not saying wrestling. We've got a couple of things to go over from Friday night. SMACKDOWN, extreme rules, approaches, and we try to answer the age old question where on earth is Shane Obeys Ler. This is not sam wrestling. Is! Introducing your host from new. York here is Sam rule. has every dude. Out there. Hopefully you had a great weekend. Hopefully. This is the way you wanted to start your week. I don't know. Maybe you got a week off. Maybe you're workin. Maybe still working from home. Who knows is world that we live in our wacky wacky world, but. If. You're a United States listener. I hope you had a good holiday weekend. I'll be. It's fun with the FAM- Maybe. There's somebody's backyard you could be in without a mascot. I don't know. Hopefully Hopefully, he had a good time were welcome. And what a beautiful time! It is to be independent. This independent wrestling podcast. Not Sam wrestling no network here, baby! I mean you know. As independent as one could be when technically? I work with WWe Four Sirius Xm there are corporate overlords involve. Let's not pretend. Let's not fake the FUNK, but still. I can run his mouth all that I want welcome. Welcome was busy holiday weekend for me. That's for sure so I've been trying to rebuild a nine, hundred, ninety, six and nineteen ninety-seven. In! My Toy room just at some point. Look and maybe talking about this publicly. Won't be the best thing, but if you guys are wrestling action for your collectors than you know. The hasbro market, the WWF Hasbro market. The actual figures that existed from about. Nine hundred eighty nine. Until the end of ninety five or so. I have just I mean. Skyrocketed beyond the point of reason. Like, it's over. It's over for Hasbro collectors. If you're thinking about starting restarting your Hasbro collection now don't bother unless you've got bill gates funding you because. You'RE NOT GONNA. You're not gonNA be able to do anything unless you're independently wealthy in a way that I can't even imagine and even if you are. I still can't imagine spending that kind of del on it. I was thinking at one point about trying to accumulate. A mint on card collection and have allowed that collection to just kind of exist as it is non complete as. Buying more now. In This Day and age is insane, however, when I look at those prices, go up. I truly think that it's only a matter of time before the bone crunching action Jack Specific wwe action figures start to skyrocket as well. They're already gone for more money than they used to. And I think that it's just a matter of the collectors of those toys. Getting some cash so disposable income. You know that's that's going to just continue to happen with action figures I think that the markets are just GonNa continue to blow up as. The stuff that you bought as a kid. You old enough to be able to afford again. You get old enough that you have a couple of dollars and you WANNA. Start Collection again so. I went through my jacks figures from like ninety six, ninety seven. And I didn't realize how chewed up. They all were because I played with them so much. Even though by then I was like twelve, thirteen fourteen. You know I was still out of control. So. I've been re buying a bunch of them and I made a pretty pretty good dent. My first project that I'm working on right now. is re-getting series one through five, and for the most part of your rebounding Jacks bone-crunching figures. You really have to buy them in the package and then open them even if you want them loose because. The joints get loose so quickly. It's really tough to find them loose and in good condition, so you really gotta buy them in the package, but I was able to find a whole bunch of. My series four is complete. I think I'm halfway through series one? About halfway through series three. I got a lot of work to go. I think I only got one or two from series two. So. There's still work to be done series. Five is I'm working on series. Five's not going to be tough series five. This is not. The most sought after series right now. But I'm working on that so I got a ton of figures. I went to like three different stores all over. Long Island like I drove all the way out there. And went to three different stores over the weekend. Getting figures from ninety six, ninety seven, then on Friday I get home and paying off a being a part of the wwe elite squad. Was Mattel paid off in dividends because I had a pile of boxes waiting on my doorstep from Mattel. And they sent me all the new wwe masters of the universe figures, and the Castle Gray Skull Ring, which is just like the best for anybody that grew up in the late eighties early nineties playing with figures like you open these basically because Mattel owns the licenses they made. WWe versions current day and legend WWe versions of the old he-man toys. So like you know Mattel senator to me and I they they made Castle Gray skull ring. With John Cena and triple h that come with it. And I was able to give that to like my three year old son, and he opened it up and like you watch this three year old play with his. And these figures for the first time and you remember like. I forgot. This isn't just about grownups. You know trying to find the best condition figures to put on the shelf like. Look at the amount of fun this. He's at the for playing with them I was like man. This is what it's all about. And then Mattel also sent over the new Mr. T. figure which my son wasn't able to. One thing on because that is a collector's item in my God is a beautiful with the chains and the rings the fabric Cammo. Jacket the whole thing he's dressed like he's in his Wrestlemainia, a training gear and he comes in like a box that is, it looks like an old clam shell vhs case. It's really great. It's so cool, so that was so much fun. Watching all, but I can't wait to see what Mattel's got. Coming up at San Diego Comic I know we don't end up talking about figures and collectibles that much on this podcast we mainly talk about you know topical wrestling stuff, but. I mean you come down into the not Sam Studios, and it rains wrestling toys on you. When you walk in here so I just don't ever forget it. There's always some kind of wrestling action figure collection being built in the background as we're podcasting here. Speaking a podcasting, we also. Curious about it. We're not going to spoil. The results to the great American Bash. If we the, no, you don't even know for sure if we know the results I'm very much looking forward to Wednesday last Wednesday was great I'm looking forward to this Wednesday. To pay per view quality wrestling shows head to head free cable. Wednesday night Ed just so much fun to live in this era. But. There was some controversy because apparently an annex t talent went on his instagram and instagram's out the result. To the main event of great American Bash. which and there's a whole story behind it, but I, mean I went off on it on my patron podcast on on the Thursday, Not Sam Thursday edition this week. For the not Sam shells. We went off on it, so you know if you're not Sam show you know my exact feelings on it and if you are really curious about it, you can, of course sign up for less than a dollar a week at Patriae, dot com slash not sam, wrestling. Speaking of purchases. And money being spent. And it being a good time to be a fan allows made over the weekend of WWe's purchase of evolve evolve. A big independent organization a place where a lot of talent came from. They've been a group that has been in a cooperative relationship with the wwe annexed specifically for a long time. A lot of talent came from evolve into Annex T. Boston. Theory is probably the most recent one but I mean a ton of it You go and and I mean you can go down the list. Malcolm Givens Timothy Thatcher. Shane Strickland. You know you swerve Scott. Isaiah Swerve Scott you go down the list and there's a ton of talent. The came from evolved that ended up in annexed T. Actually has also been loaning talent to evolve. The annex talent at evolve shows doing autograph signings and stuff like that just adds some star power and keep that organization afloat I. Don't know if the inspiration was look you know we look back at. You know the mid to late ninety s and the working relationship. The WWE had with E C W where. The wwe believed that. To keep the industry healthy. With smaller organizations that were not competition, but we're cooperating. Would become a great source of talent and make it so that it was easy. I don't know if that was the inspiration behind it or if it was just I have no idea but I think it's I. think it could be a good thing I think that there's a lot to be done with having evolve. Officially. Owned by WWe I don't think that evolve will continue to exist as it did so for people who were evolved fans. That's the bummer. The plus side is we saw? The one evolves special on the WWE network. I think that the the evolves special is what led Austin theory getting signed? By WWe showing up on T. and getting fast tracked right to the main roster. I think that. We will as fans the reason we will benefit as fans is because I think that evolve. Will be the first. Separate Promotion to be available on W network I think that that is. Probably, definitely where this is going, assuming wwe tape library, which I can't imagine, they would buy evolving not by the tape library. I think that. Evolve will probably be the first organization that ends up on w network that not an official wwe product, which is something that a lot of fans are waiting for I think that. There's a lot to be done there. Just because wwe now their roster has such a history outside of wwe. You know I think. There was a time. When TNA's Tape Library for example. Would not serve benefit wwe at all. Why would you bother? Over the past few years. If you look at wwe network specials, they've licensed out TNA footage many times for many different specials. And if you look at the talent, they've brought in. A lot of the town they brought in. The main History on. National television in the United States comes from impact and TNA. Look at AJ styles. You look at Samoa Joe you look at guys like that and you realize Oh. You know even Jeff Jarrett. If you WanNa really tell the story of Jeff Jarrett having TNA's tape library. Is really important. And I think that impact is in the position where they could. Sell. Not only the tape library, but the intellectual property of TNA. You can call. It TNA affected their now known as impact. What if they sold the TNA portion of it? You know every now and then they do. Those like Retro Shows Shore. What are they just stop doing what they said. wwe. You can have. TNA and you can have our first. You know however many years. Of Tape Library. And we will keep impact. You can't have impact. The name impact wrestling stays with us. And the LAG 'cause. Impact wrestling. If you look at impact wrestling today. TNA even five years ago. has very little to do with impact wrestling. Today I mean the company did a complete about face. In order to survive. They're completely different company now than they ever were before. I don't think that they're tape. Library is all that valuable to them to be honest. You know I mean I guess they probably make some money off their off their library in terms of their network. I know they put on Best of paper views every now and then, but because you know, the DVD market is non-existent in wrestling, and how many subscribers can impacts network possibly really have? I feel like the smart money would probably be in trying to sell that library WWe and sell TNA, wwe and just keep impact wrestling. And Ring of honor might think about doing the same thing. I think the two most valuable tape libraries. The wwe can acquire for their network would be early. And early ring of honor. An entire generation of wwe talent came from ring of honor. From. Punk all the way up until Adam Cole. Until that point I would say get it all. And put it on the WWE network. You know imagine if you were able to go back and see the generic. Kevin Steen Hammerstein ballroom ladder matches on the WWE network to really cash in on that history of the athletes that you now have in wwe. Imagine if you were able to go back and watch CNN, punk versus Mojo imagine if you were able to go back and watch. Joel McGinnis versus Bryan. You know how much more credibility you could add to Nigel McGuinness as a commentator assuming he comes back to annex. If you could just direct people to turn on the WWE network and you can watch the best of Nigel McGuinness in. Ring of honor and who knows maybe TNA stuff. Have you get that library to why not? Why not? I think that that. That's where wwe focus should be in terms of expanding the network I. Don't think that people will just watch. Other promotions tape libraries for the sake of other promotions tape libraries, but I think if the other promotions tape libraries. Are The history of the current roster. Then then I think you've got some real value like evolve for instance. When evolves tape library goes up. You're going to be able to see assuming it does. You're going to be able to see so much matt? Riddle the story of Matt Riddle is really going to be told. Because truth, be told. I don't think he ever really. ACHIEVED AS POTENTIAL IN NEXT T. He was never serious world title contender. He never even held the North American Championship. The only title he ever held next, he was the tag team championship, and even then. It was sloppy because his tag team partner was not able to be back in the country, and he only lost the title because that turned on him. He didn't reach potential next T. Those last couple matches with Thatcher. That was a good example of what Matt Riddle is capable of you know I think seeing Matt Riddle, I show up in those matches. He had with cash Asano. And I think the last couple of matches had in the fighter pit, and the mashed before that he had with Timothy Thatcher. I think that's where you start to learn what Matt Riddle is capable of. But you didn't see that much of that in an xt and I think that having evolves library and showing you those other moments Matt Riddle are going to be really really crucial to making Matt. Riddle a star on smackdown speaking of smackdown. There were a couple of moments on smackdown that. I thought smackdown overall was a very good show I. Think I'm liking the direction that smackdown are headed him. shocker. Sam Roberts Schill Scoops Roberts hack wrestling journalists likes what's happening, wwe. We'll guess what. If that annoys you, you should have stopped listening to this podcast years ago. But you know, and it's not like I'm just saying this now because it's what's happening. For weeks if not months I was saying that there needed to be less wrestling wrestling that there were too many matches that this wasn't going to work in the cove era of WWe, and now that that these TV shows are far more fast paced. We're dealing with quicker matches were dealing with more angles were doing more promos were more storyline heavy on both raw and smackdown annex. T for that matter. It's a huge huge positive. There were. Two issues that I have a smackdown. The I was Matt Riddles Promo. Guys. It's that time of the year. People are feeling a little more frisky than usual a lot of skin showing. You're going to be expected to be able to perform sometimes at a moment's notice. There's nothing less attractive than when your partner comes up to you and goes. Hey, let's go. I'm ready to be physically stimulated, and you have to sit there and say I can't do it. I'm exhausted I. Don't have. Have the confidence whatever reason it is, you never have to worry about that again. Yes, those days when you were always ready to go, can finally be back in nine. Oh, I know because I lived the same life that you do when you're obsessed over a hobby, you're sitting there. You're watching and hours and hours of wrestling, and then your partner comes up to you and she goes enough is enough Sam. Enough of this wrestling stuff. It's time for you. To leave me physically gratified. I can't sit there and say like I can't do that I've spent so much time in front of the TV. You can sit there and do that. No, that's when blue comes into play. Yes, blue brings me back to the. Young Man I once was see. Blue is the first Shula bowl with the same fda-approved active ingredients as Viagra cialis. You can take him anytime day or night there chewable, so they were twice as fast on a pill, full stomach, empty stomach, and none of that stuff, matters and blue shoe is prescribed online by licensed physicians, so you never have to go to the doctor's office. You never have to wait in line at the pharmacy and it ships right to your door in a discreet package that means there's no awkwardness. Nobody knows what you're getting. Nobody knows what your issue is and. 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Matt Riddle is certainly off the beaten path, okay? But people get it nobody I'm sure there are some people, but nobody number is sitting there going. I wish he would go on TV and tell me a story about why he doesn't wear shoes. The Matt Rio explaining why he doesn't wear shoes promo. Sounded like it was written by a person who wears shoes all the time Matt Riddle explaining why he doesn't wear. Shoes sounded like he was written by somebody who sleeps in their shoes. A person who wears flipflops all the time and never wear shoes doesn't have a long winded explanation because they're chill. They're not sitting there writing a thesis about why they don't have shoes on. Their just chilling and now we're in shoes. Hey, why don't you wear shoes? Bro Thing. That's it. Matt real answer should just be bro. Hey Man. Why don't you wear shoes? That's what it should be. It should be backstage. Kayla or Rene or Charlie or Sarah, or whoever's back there Sean, Mooney mean. Josh! Mathews Kevin Kelly. Whoever's back there should run up to Matt Riddle and go. Man I saw a welcome to smack down. A lot of audiences is wondering. We see you go out there. You wear flip flops all the time. And you don't wear shoes. Why not? He should just look at him Bro. And just keep walking. That's it. That's Matt. Riddle. I will tell you this about Matt Riddle. When Matt Riddle is I in annexed I? Saw Conversation happened backstage and I won't tell you who it was with because I don't betray the confidence of these private conversations, but somebody Matt Riddle is Matt Riddle on and offscreen. As a great guy by the way. He is walking around backstage. He's got Sudan. He's got a hat on. He's got flip flops on. Somebody goes hey. Man Welcome. You know and this is not like an official. This is this is just somebody giving him advice and he goes, you know. You got a good face. I don't think I. Don't think that you should wear that hat it hide your face in your hair. You have such a good look. Matt riddle goes. I know dude, but it's got a thing. And that's it. That's literally what he said in response, it wasn't on TV wasn't part of a character. It was just Matt Riddle. Being Matt Riddle and that's the Matt Riddle that should be on TV Michael Cole should say. What's with you not wearing shoes? And match your just go. I. Know Bro kind of my thing. I mean all you have to do is watch Jeff's Macauley. In Fast Times at Ridgemont high. No shirt no use no dyes. That stand, it's so simple. Matt Riddle is Jeff's Collie and by the way Jesper Coli, even though he was the rebel, even though he didn't do his homework, even though he missed prom, 'cause Mr hand was making them study history the whole time Jeff's Was a baby face. Nobody watches fast times at Ridgemont high and doesn't want to be the Sean Penn character. He's the baby face of the whole movie. That's who Matt Riddle should be. Method shouldn't even know why he doesn't wear shoes. Matt riddle goes on instinct. He goes on feeling. He'd be marches to the beat of his own drummer. But when you've got a guy like that. Who is able to vocalise? And is able to conceptualize why he's not doing this stuff. You're actually going against his character. He's a burnout from high school. Hey Man why don't you go to class? Thing man no. Smack downs would've said well, you know. I tried to go to class once, but I felt like the real learning happened out and already you're like what? Who would have thought you would have been so wordy? I just that. Irked me because I think the Matt Riddle thing could be so fresh. Could be so kind of relevant and new and young and it just. Don't. Turn him into something like you don't have to make it so that every single person understands. You know. You don't always have to cater to the lowest common denominator. My other thing about smackdown that I didn't love. Was the Jeff Hardy and shame angle? It's not because it's distasteful to tell you the truth. Because as I talked about on this podcast for years. That stuff does not bother me if it doesn't bother them. If I found out that you know Jeff, hardy was being held against his will and forced to participate in a storyline that was exploiting his personal tragedy, even though he didn't want to. I'd be like Oh that sucks, but if you're a performer and you want to take your real life that everybody knows about and turn it into your performance. I'm like more power to you when I go on the radio and talk about what's going on in my real life. I don't expect anybody to be like. Oh, we shouldn't be talking about this. On the radio I expect people to go like. Oh, it's really interesting. This is really real. This is raw. This is what people want to know about you know. My only issue is that it feels like the exact same storyline. That happened with JBL and CNN punk several years back. You. Know The let's get the guy who doesn't drink to drink. Story I. Don't feel like it's being told in a different way. That's all I. Like Shameless Jeff Hardy, being paired up. I don't mind it getting personal. I wish more. I really liked the angle. They did a few weeks ago with the car wreck and all that stuff and all the players being involved. I wish that that had been spread out over the course of a few weeks. Because that was really interesting to me that I really enjoyed. But. I felt like. Jeff Hardy beating up the waiter. was extremely similar to the raw segment from several years several years back when. JBL is trying to get. punked to drink component holes the shot of Jack Daniels and then he throws it and Jbl face I mean it was kind of exactly the same thing that Jeff. Hardy did to the waiter, except he dumped it over the top of his head, so I just think it's a little too similar. Also its nit picky but I don't know that that was what I would put in the main event. I would probably put that. You know midway through the show, but I also you know I. Just Freshen it up a little bit. You know what I mean. But all in all you know. Finding stuff to complain about it I thought I thought I think. Both shows all three shows TV has been better in my opinion. Quite a bit better actually. With the storyline stuff! However. There is a question to be raised. There is a question on the mind of a lot of people the last time the last time that we saw. Shane Obeys Ler. was. May Twelfth. The Year of our Lord Twenty Twenty may twelfth She was at a match with Natty and she won Ju successful. But that was it I. Guess it must have been right after money in the bank. I WANNA. Say unless it was right before I don't know, but you know right around money in the bank. We Shane baiser leading up to Wrestlemania, we saw wrestlemainia leading up to money in the bank are money in the bank and that was kind of it for Shane Baseler so the question on everybody's mind. Where is Shayna Baseler? David Meltzer was reporting that a vince is grown weary of her, so he's taken her off TV. Obviously, that's a possibility. It's also a possibility, and this happens that you've got certain talent that is predestined for the main event that if you're not gonNA have them in the title picture. It only weakens them to have them at all. And so that could be what's happening with Shane? Baiser a could just be that. She's being held on the sidelines until there's a big storyline for her. Either of those two things equally possible or various other possibilities, but the point is. She's not on TV and to me. It's getting pretty conspicuous. I think that the conversation came up this week because becky lynch or last week I suppose because Becky Lynch was on the balanced podcast and she said something to the effect of. Wanting to lose the title to Chenab as Ler. And that not happening. which I thought was interesting. You know I did not mind becky winning Shane Baseler at Wrestlemainia I think becky winning against Shayna Russell Mania put becky in another new category. And if the year the becky has had his champion. Has Been like nothing. Any other woman has had in the history of wwe. Her keeping the title for a year, even Charlotte. Who has you know I? Believe is the greatest female of all time. Charlotte has never held the title anywhere near that amount of time the fact that Becky held the title for a full year, and then kept it going after Wrestlemainia. I really says something effective. She's still even though she's gone. Never never lost the title. That is that is when you start getting into Hogan territory and I think that's what? Not Losing to Shane obeys did for Becky Lynch. It took Becky Lynch and it made it so that she was. She went from being. The most dominant. Champion and wwe at the time to in the conversation of all time. In, the conversation of female equivalent. To Hulk Hogan. One thousand, nine, hundred nine, you know. Becky mania running wild so I'm actually completely okay with that decision. And Who knows? When the decision for what was to happen at money in the bank was made. You know, let's keep in mind. The money in the bank ladder match was taped weeks before the pay per view so even if you're saying well if becky made the pregnancy announcement on raw. And then left. Clearly, they didn't find out that day. Clearly, they knew at least the night before which is true, but. The match didn't actually happened the night before the match happened like three weeks before so. Did wwe no three weeks before. Did wwe know when OSCO won the money in the bank ladder match that Oscar would become the women's champion, not just the money in the bank holder or briefcase holder. Who knows we can speculate all we want. We would have to ask somebody very close to find out and I have no idea who that would be. But in hindsight. When I'm thinking about it. I would have preferred as much as I love. Oscar Oscar is one of my favorite. Women wrestlers of all time. She's on my list with Charlotte and bone Ikano. Probably. This is my list in no particular order. Charlotte becky both on the list. Oscar on the list Bull Nakano on the list. And then if I had to add a fifth birthday, so. I. Don't know who the fifth would be so. I believe that. Shane Obeys Ler. Being Roy Women's champion right now. Would have been amazing. Because, it would feel like. The title was being held hostage and nobody could get it from her. It would feel like. You had becky who as dominant as she was. And is great as a champion as she was. The reason that she worked as a good guy is because she walked into all these matches vulnerable, and she really had to fight and scratch and claw to keep that title Shayna obeys lawyer on the other hand, just steamrolling over everybody. It's like Oh, no, becky's left. And now we can't get the title away from Shane Baseler because she's this whole other this June. This anime stuff that none of us know how to contend with. You wouldn't have that great moment of Oscar and Becky in the ring together. But. I think that if you take that moment out. Having matches where you've got the entire women's division. Lining up to each take a shot at Shane obeys ller. I think that would have been an amazing story to tell over the course of a year. And you've got enough women to do it. To you eventually get to Oscar but even Nyah Jacks, and with with Shayna she so different, and clearly that character has no friends on the roster. Clearly! You don't need to do only the good guys fight Shayna. I WANNA. See nyah Jacks versus Shayna. I WANNA. SEE NYAH! Coming in Jack isn't a good guy. Nyah Jackson's sitting there going I hurt people to Shayna you see what happened to Cairo. Sane I hurt people, too. Because as much as the Internet was talking about Nyah Jacks being sloppy, the WWe completely cashed in on that and allowed it to. Add to her heel. Persona was the right thing to do when the Internet is trashing you for something like they know. Absolutely added into the character absolutely. So. I would have loved to see Nyah Jacks versus Shane Baylor because how Shayna obeys unique offense going to be able to stop. The irresistible force ejects. You know. I would love to see Shane obeys. There'd be the one to put Charlotte on the shelf for a little bit. I would love to see Shane. Obeys versus in Italian in championship scenario where an Italian like I've got the most wins on the roster. I'm going to be the one that steps up and the list goes on and on, and this is not something that you do once a week. This is something that you do over the course of several months. To pay per views against NYAH JACKS A pay-per-view against Charlotte are pay per view against an Italian next is Oscar. Nobody's ready for Oscar. You go back to the to the that both of those women had an annex. T and the dominant title runs that they both had an annex. T and now we get to see that you know I just think that that would have been such a compelling story and I hope that there isn't faith lost and Shayna baseler. Shayna. On, TV. And I think that that is the woman that he and I. Know You're sitting there. Going like Becky Lynch even comes back. It's not going to be for another year right, so we've got plenty of time to bring Shane obeys lower back. And make her the person that becky has to contend with. Which is true? However I really think that. If. Shayna had an entire year of destroying the women's division. Then becky comes back now now. You've got a monster. The he has to contend with. Now. You've got somebody that Becky has never. Never had that kind of challenge against. When you look down the roster, the raw women's division. Is In, a very interesting spot, you've got becky. Biggest Star who's on the shelf, right? Becky is going to be on the shelf for at least a year. Oscar. Winners champion. Charlotte On the shelf for who knows how long And then really I mean the conversation goes to. The Italian and Lana Natalia obviously starting something with the I've got the most wins and kind of cashing in on the amount of time that she's been there. You Got Kyrie Sane who. Rumors are that she's retiring soon I don't know if that's true or not. You Got Jack's. who were you know? We're kind of already seeing we're seeing we're seeing that. Play out and then. In terms of the spotlight people you got Zelina Vega I mean Yeah Zilina Vega. Who she got a spotlight on her, but she's not wrestling even though she can russell. I like the raw has got the the women's tag team division shining, so you see Sasha daily on Raw. You see Election Nikki on raw. You see the iconic on raw. It's interesting to me. Is You've got this entire next generation crop of women on the roster right now? That are for whatever reason. Not being utilized at all when you look at the women who aren't being utilized. It does make you scratch your head. Because if you add the women who are not being utilized. To the women that I just said and to the women's tag team division that's featured on raw. You've got this women's roster. The likes of which I don't even know if you've seen with men. That's how good they are I mean you've got ruby riot. WHO. People love the riot squad. There is a groundswell of support for she's one of the best female pure wrestlers on the roster, and she's eleven since she returned. which is a weird use of Ruby riot? You got live Morgan. WHO. I mean just go on twitter. I'm afraid to say anything bad about live Morgan 'cause. She's so popular. People Love Live Morgan and whatever she was doing in those promos about finding her identity. It seemed like it was working. Because there's something that people love about live Morgan. She's she's very relatable to people. Then, you've got. Shane obeys learn who has completely disappeared off the face of the earth. Maybe. She's somewhere in the upside down I. Don't know where she is, but Shane obeys ler is. New Maybe on that active roster is becky and Charlotte are both gone. Shayna is among the most valuable female commodities. You could have in wwe right now. And then. You've got somebody who's just recently called up. Who is as trust me when I tell you is as popular as anybody that you've got. And who tells stories in the ring? The people truly believe in and makes people believe in her, and that's Bianca Bel Bianca. Belair has been invisible since she got a raw. She's been on main event. She showed up. She was with the street prophets. And then she was gone. Once Viking raiders things start. You never saw Bianca Belair again and she's been on on main event, just doing matches and I don't know why I mean there's always reasons. that. We're not privy to. But. When, you tell me that you've got a roster that is. Bianca Bel Air Live Morgan Ruby riots. Shayna Baiser Peyton Royce Billy K. Nyah Jack Selena Vega Lon. Italia's Charlotte Becky. That's like an all star roster. Then you go over to smackdown. And, you've got Bailey and Sasha banks. That are now on all three shows because they're the women's tag team champions and to me putting the tag title on Balian. Sasha was the smartest thing that you could have done because Bailey and Sasha. Is. Maybe the best act that you've got on television right now. Bailey and Sasha are are the peak of both of their careers right now in terms of entertainment in terms of matches in terms of storytelling. We have finally gotten to a place. We were at this place with Bailey and Sasha where there was almost a feeling of exhaustion, because people were just waiting for the turn to happen. They knew the term is going to happen. When is the turn happen? You keep teasing it. When now we've gotten way past that. We've got an over that. Hump and you don't even WanNa see it. As? I said I've said I. Remember. Patriot on podcast or I said this on this podcast, but. When the Bailey Sasha turn happens. It's going to be rockers level because Bailey and Sasha are. Yeah it's tough to argue that they're not the best act on TV. Right now you put them on annex. T twice and twice. They've one in the ratings. Against A W, and that doesn't happen every segment. Here's a reason for that. And I'm not shocked by it. Sasha pinks versus Shirai had every right is the best match of the of the of the night on any show more of the maybe the best match of the week. There's a lot of matches every week. It was the one that I was most looking forward to. Not just because I, knew the match going to be great, but because I knew the story was going to be great, because I love watching Shirai perform, and because Sasha banks and Bailey are the best act on television right now. And then you go down the list. On smackdown! You've got Lazy Evans which she's coming into our own. Dana Brooke into Meena you know. And then Mandy Rose and Sonia Deville Sunny developed not it out of the park with her promos. And Mandy Rosen an Otis is i. mean talk about some of the greatest acts on TV. Right now man. If you told me coming up this week, we're going to have a segment where Sasha and Bailey. Talk and we're going to have a segment where Mandy notice. Talk I'm watching that show. because. Those are two amazing acts. mickie James Ember Moon on the disabled list then then. On the people you just don't see on TV much anymore. Carmella, who to me is one of the most entertaining people on TV. You Know I. She's such a good. He'll. The reason. That, she was, so she got Ellsworth, not the other way around, and you cannot convince me otherwise. It was not yet. Carmella did not have ellsworth dust sprinkled on her. Carmelo was sprinkling Carmella Dust Analysis worth. I the criminal Ellsworth combination was amazing, but that's because Carmella played it so well. Then you got Naomi not being used. That one is boggling my mind. Why Not Naomi one of the best athletes, one of the most popular wrestlers one of the person who's got consistently great matches, she could do great storylines. An Annex. T, the roster's ridiculous. And annexed T. they're kind of using everybody right? Ear Sharia Ripley Mia? EMT Knocks Dakota Candice Laura Raquel Gonzalez. Shots Blackheart Zeile Lee on TV regularly and then in the bullpen. You've got Leah. Chelsea Green Justice Duke Marina. Chevallier. Casey Kevin Zero. Cayden Carter and then you'll see vignettes. Mercedes Martinez on the way. So I mean there's so many layers to this women's division, but I think that. The wwe as never. Quite pulled off except for you know in small instances here and there. Is. The multiple female storylines going on at the same time, and I just Reggie's rosters. You've got these insanely. Deep Rosters. Keep in perspective. You're sitting there going like Sam. It's twelve people insanely deep. That's a bit of a stretch. When talking about a women's division, having twelve people that you can count on on each roster. That's deeper than we've ever seen before. There is no reason why you can't have. On raw with as many people as you've got. There's no reason why you can't be telling a story about the TAG team championship with the ICONEX. You can't be telling a story about Oscar and who has who's ever challenging her, and you also can't be telling a story about live Morgan and Ruby riot, I mean if I'm there right now I'm putting. Live Morgan and Bianca Belair. On a team together. Because I. Feel like those, too. They're just very relatable. People Love Them. I'm putting them on a team together. They're gonNA help each other out I. Don't know the landscape is tough for us. You know and they just have each other's backs. Eventually live Morgan turns on Bianca Air to join back with Ruby. Riot Ruby riot and live Morgan. START PICKING ON BIANCA BEL air. Until Bianca Belair recruits whoever she recruits. To be on her side, she could pull somebody up. Bringing Shazi blackheart. To team alongside Bianca Belair whoever you want a team alongside Bianca Bel but I mean right there. You telling me that for a month two months live Morgan and Bianca Bel Air as as as friends. Wouldn't be great, and then people wouldn't tune into watch. Grudge match between live Morgan and Bianca, Belair just what if he did that, what are you GonNa? Pay Per view match. Who was not for a title that was Bianca Pellerin live Morgan. Finally, settling the score, it'd be great. It'd be great. And? We, finally answered the question like. I. I want storyline answer. I don't want I want to look at all these people you got. And I. Want I want to hear stories about them? I WanNa see the personalities. I don't want Shane obeys later. To reappear one week. I want to know where she's been. I want the answer. You have to answer. Sway while I want to get the answers. You know. I want Shane Baylor to disrupt something. Maybe, make Shane a maybe, Shayna baseler is the hacker on smackdown I don't know. But you know I, wouldn't I wouldn't mind. If, she showed up on smackdown just as a swerve. Why not? have. Chena baiser interrupt. Lacey Evans Mandy rose or something like that I. Don't know I I would start a story line. And have Shayna baiser interrupted. Just something that Shayna Besar has nothing to do with. Just have her. Come out and disrupt because that's why Shayna. Should be around Shayna. Basically should be around to disrupt. And she is I mean she ultimate disruptor. Choose, so. Her what made her next title run? So unique. was that every opponent that she had? People wanted her to lose. Nobody believed she was going to. When people got mad at me for saying there's no way beyond cavalier's going to beat Shane obeys. Ler shouldn't even be a takeover match. They got mad at me because they wanted. Bianca Bel Air to win. But. Nobody actually thought Bianca Bell. It was going to win. Same thing with me am when medium versus Shayna Baiser was a takeover match. People wanted me am to win. But nobody believed me and was going to win. And the list goes on and on and on. You know to the point that when Ria Rivoli finally showed up. It was almost like wait a minute. That's why Ripley felt so different. 'cause you finally started to see this character where you're like Do you think she might actually be able to beat Chenab as ler. That's really rare there is. Nobody as I looked down this list of performers. There's nobody on raw. And nobody on smackdown. Can pull off that vibe, even Nyah Jacks. Should be the one person who you think can, but she can't pull off that vibe. Nyah Jax comes across as difficult to be, but not unbeatable. Shayna baiser can come off as unbeatable. And that that is a rare quality, and that's equality that I think you have to cash in on. That's equality, because not only. Is it a quality that bills a great character. When you have a character that can be unbeatable, you can sit there and and be captivated by them. I mean there, are you? Do you do run this risk of the audience getting sick of it right? I'm tired of seeing this person that nobody can beat and that's true. You have to know you know. The timing has to be is in a certain way, and maybe that's going on here. But not every character can pull off unbeatable. People who don't understand wrassling think that because it scripted, you can just take any person and make them win all the time, and then they're unbeatable, but that's not true. We know when we're looking at something, and it doesn't feel real and we known. We're looking at something, and it feels very real. And that's the way it feels with Shayna baseler. You Watch her. And you're like. Don't think she's beatable. After she beat Kyrie's sane to begin her second and t women's title rain. That was when people stopped believing that she can be beat that character I'm saying. That's a character that she can easily bring the raw. It was. I mean I think I? said it on the bump. It was a foregone conclusion that she was going to win the elimination chamber. Was a foregone conclusion that she was going to win money in the bank and then she didn't. I think that. That that's the quality. That Shane needs to cash in on I think we need to find out exactly where Shayna was. Exactly why she was gone. Maybe training. Maybe. She didn't feel the competition. Was Up to standard. But then she heard on the Internet. That she wasn't allowed on TV. Then, she started hearing rumblings. That she was being kept off TV's her, she's here now. She's here to answer to those criticisms. And then spend a year with nobody being able to beat her. You know people will believe it. Not only do you get to build? This character does the ultimate villain because she's so difficult to beat, but eventually eventually timed perfectly when you have a character like that. You get to give somebody the opportunity to be the ultimate hero. When you can build a villain that people truly believe is unbeatable. You can eventually find somebody that people want to win so badly. That, you get to have that moment you get to build the hero who does the impossible and once they do the impossible. There's nothing that can stop them. Except losing the Championship to Charlotte, Wrestlemainia that could stop them in a hurry, but We just won't do that again, right? We just won't do it again, Hey! That's my thoughts. Hopefully we see Shane obeys slur again very very soon. Looking forward to a strong week of professional wrestling this week. Thank you. Everybody will see you next week right here on nauseam wrestling. Don't forget if you don't WanNa wait an entire week for another episode of not same wrestling head over to patriotdepot dot com slash not same wrestling right now. Become a not Sam Shell for less than a dollar a week. You'll have access to a bonus episode. Every single Thursday another not sam wrestling. We'll see you then give I everybody. Thanks for listening. Follow not sale on twitter, instagram, facebook and Youtube. Rate, review subscribe this has been.

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The Man Comes Around - Notsam Wrestling 284

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The Man Comes Around - Notsam Wrestling 284

"Today on not Sam wrestling the man. Becky Lynch is here social distancing. Be DAMNED OF COURSE. She is on the phone. We're going over everything that's happening this weekend. At wrestlemainia the era of empty arenas continues and a whole lot more. This is not sam wrestling introducing your host from New York. Here is rubber boy. Oh boy it's official even if these days starting to blend together it's a Monday. It's time to start this week. At least in the context of wrestling in what is going to be no doubt one of the most interesting weeks in the history of wwe. Let's get things started. Welcome to not Sam Wrestling. Five days away not six days. Five days away from Wrestlemainia five days away from the first ever to day WRESTLEMAINIA. Who would have thought I mean? You just never know the context of things coming that old Be careful what you wish for scenario this two day wrestlemainia thing was in a lot of people's heads Months ago starting in January right after wrestle kingdom for some reason this year and maybe it was. Because you know I feel like the last two wrestlemanias. Maybe three have been crazy long. But last year's Wrestlemainia was the one that was in New York and not only went so long but everybody in New York was stuck waiting for like two or three hours outside the meadowlands for hoover's and trains and stuff and it went too late and then the train shut down and it was. It was a nightmare not. Wwe's fault that one oblate that one on the Great State of New Jersey but maybe they were just mad because WWe would never say New Jersey but still a hassle for a lot of people for some reason. This year was the year that People started talking about how after wrestle kingdom between two nights over in the Tokyo. Dome why not do Wrestlemainia that way you know is there was a conversation that was happening in in numbers this year and I didn't loved the idea because I mean you still have to sell two stadiums worth of tickets. You know what I mean like I. I don't I don't know why you would I doing to in one weekend. Seems like an awful lot. Even though you're like well they're already doing a seven hour. Show why don't you break it up? I guess you can do to three hour shows with one one hour pre show before I don't know but it seems like really complicated especially since they already have the Ray Wrestlemainia was already set up. Was it already is not only is already two nights. It's already five nights. It's already smackdown or I'll hall of fame into smackdown into takeover into wrestlemainia into raw. You know you've already got your five nights who knows where this will lead next year. We can only assume and when I say assume I mean. I really hope that next year by the time this all rolls around That things are back to normal and wherein stadium in Los Angeles where we're supposed to be but when that happens you know what will have changed. How will this one go over? And and will the possibility of of wrestlemainia being two nights. Continue like there's all this history that is being written as we speak you know and and we are going to take as things normalize. I'm sure that the positives of whatever this experience is will be taken with us and some of the negatives worked out against you know things are going to be different coming out of it for the better for the worse. I don't even think we can speculate on next year's Wrestlemainia the same way. We can't we can't speculate on the night. After wrestlemainia let alone the year after Wrestlemainia all we can do is sit there and look forward and know that there is going to be a wrestlemainia this year and it is going down Saturday and Sunday. It is a two night wrestlemainia. There are what is it. Something like fourteen matches announced for Wrestlemainia. And we'll go over them and then we'll see what happens next. I would imagine the on the podcast. I mean I'll still be doing new podcast every week but I would imagine that more and more will be doing podcasts. Like we did on Thursday the Patriots on Thursday. Not Sam Thursday podcast. I went over my top ten wrestlemainia matches of all time. I'm assuming once Wrestlemainia is done. There may end up being a lot more history and lists and just you know talking about content that may be available on the wwe network because who knows who knows who's going to be able to run any semblance of a new live wrestling show After wrestlemainia but all we all we can speculate after Wrestlemainia or we can talk about. What's going on this week I know that a lot of there are people. That are are bummed out about Wrestlemainia but that I think you have to be bummed out about the state of the world that we're in right now. I mean that you just had to be bummed out about the fact that we're in the middle of a global pandemic every aspect of life has changed as far as how history looks at Wrestlemainia. This year you know. I've heard people say well. This is clearly going to be the worst wrestlemainia ever and Bob and it's like I don't. I don't think that's how we're going to look at this year's Wrestlemainia first of all. It may not be all that you know. I came on with the blazing hot take on last Monday. Show that edge versus Randy Orton in an empty arena. Match would be a better match than had been in the stadium at Wrestlemainia and I completely stand by that. Maybe now more than ever. Especially after Randy's Promo Randy had another promo of his life on raw by the way Kevin Owens and Seth rollins being in an empty building leading up to the match anyway so much better than had been in front of an audience. Seth rollins delivered the Promo the best promo that he's had since he turned heel on Monday in that empty building. And I don't know I think we'll talk about it with Becky Lynch there is. There is a different way of telling stories when you're in an empty building and there's a different way of cutting promos and there's just A. There's something that feels more real and feels more raw and some stuff is going to be a lot worse but some stuff ends up. Actually being better. Seth rollins has shined. Randy Orton has shined. Edge has shined these guys that? Can you know that that that have not only been every possible scenario conceivable but just the these are the guys that are the legends of the business? These are the guys that regardless of what you're GONNA do. I should say the people because it's not gender specific. These are the people that are just going to make it work and when you look at Wrestlemainia there are people on this show. They're just going to make it work now. I came out last week and made my list of matches and Peter Rosenberg. Whose with me last week was right. Maybe I should have gotten that podcast out quicker because I said on the podcast you could do. Aj styles versus the undertaker in a graveyard. But I don't think so you know I don't really WanNa do it that way. I could see them doing it that way but I think it would feel more real and more personal if you just did it on the street. That wasn't listened to. They went with the with the bone yard idea. I'm assuming that's very similar to a graveyard. All I could think about was maybe it would be where the hyenas hang out. In the Lion King you know the elephant graveyard slash boneyard. Maybe that's where it'll be. I don't know if you remember last guy said that the John Cena fiend match it could happen in the firefly on house. That's an idea but for me I prefer to just to happen in the ring I feel like putting in the firefly funhouse. We start to get away from this Idea that Bray Wyatt is a human was wronged by John. Cena as human and that story that started to be told in that Promo that the two of them had a couple of weeks ago in the empty building. They decided to go against me. They said No. Sam We liked the idea. We'RE GONNA go with firefight house. I said okay guys okay you earn to firefly funhouse. I'm sure it'll still be good. We'll do firefly funhouse The ladder match is now going to the tag teams for the Tag Team Championship. So that's not going to be between Charlotte and Rear Ripley but still for as much stuff as came up on the show last week. I would say that you know I was pretty pretty spot spot on enough that there were many asking all right enough of this Sam. Who's the source and I said the sources my brain. It's just understanding logic basic wrestling logic when you can apply logic to a place where there is none. You're a big winner. And that's what I'm able to do I suppose Let's talk about Wrestlemainia and I'm sure there will be more to preview on on the Thursday Patriarch podcast but based on what we know. Now there are. It's interesting there are few spoilers out there. I haven't heard any haven't seen any reliable spoilers from in terms of results of matches. I've only seen spoilers in terms of people who were supposed to be on the show that are not going to be on Wrestlemainia And who replaced them? I would imagine that those spoilers the fact that those spoilers are getting out that I think is being done on purpose by. Wwe The fact that we're getting spoilers of who is not on the show and who's replacing them but not who's winning matches and not giving away big surprises. I think that that's that's being done intentionally. There's some intentional leakage. Happening and I won't talk about all of them because I know some people are avoiding spoilers altogether but I think it's pretty well known that you know I mean Ryan Sat and put out the rumor or put out the news breaking bulletin which I would imagine again came from. Wwe To some extent I would think That Roman reigns is going to be part of Wrestlemainia just because He's a compromised immune system because of The cancer and everything that he's gone through the leukemia and so he just doesn't want to be part of it right now and you got to respect that But I was very interested on smackdown to see that there was no reference to it that watching smackdown. It was business as usual. Roman versus Goldberg at Wrestlemainia. I would think that the reason that that was left is because there will be something this week on smackdown the clarifies what is happening going into Wrestlemainia. I think that People are just left really confused with so much news coming off of. Wwe Is apparently wwe spam a ton of time at the performance center last week. Basically taping everything so these little droplets of news that are sneaking out of the performance center. That stuff that really in front of our eyes is GONNA play itself out over the course of two to three weeks so I'm still kind of waiting for it to play out but I think it'll be interesting when it does a couple of notes by the way I was very impressed with an x t on Wednesday and it was the first time. Wwe Did a wrestling heavy show in an empty building. And I thought annex t show is really really good so you know hats off to everybody that performed on annex t on Wednesday but I thought that that was. That was one of the best. Empty buildings shows the. Wwe is done you know. I think that They're definitely been shining moments on both raw and smackdown for the most part in the PROMOS. I think some of the guest commentator spots have been good some not all but some of the best comedy guest commentator spots on Ron smackdown of in very good. I think I think for Ron smackdown. Really the shining moments have been those promos annex t it was just really cool to see these people able to pull off two hours for the most part worth of wrestling so. I thought it was awesome. Let's get into what is scheduled for Wrestlemainia. So you've got and also how about you know every year for Wrestlemanias? Wwe has their wrestlemanias store and they put out four five six t shirts of the top matches on the show so all the top wrestlemainia matches have their own t shirt as well as the I was there. T. Shirt and just you know. One Hundred Fifty Wrestlemainia hoodies and just tons and tons of specialized merchandise. That really. I mean I know that some people buy it online but I would think for the most part. It's people who were there. I mean. Look I've worked the last three wrestlemanias Anna last three wrestlemanias. I've gone to the store and bought a whole bunch of stuff. This is actually the first wrestlemainia that I will be home for Since twenty I went to resume twenty nine. Obviously that was in New York. I went to thirty in New Orleans. Thirty one in Palo Alto thirty two in Dallas. Thirty three was the first Wrestlemania that I worked on the KICKOFF SHOW FOR AN ORLANDO. Thirty four was back to New Orleans. Thirty five was back to New York. All three of those I was on the kickoff show for now thirty six. I'm with the rest of us at home watching but it's an experience we're all going through. I think that I think that's the way history will look at this as as just a moment like oh do you remember how crazy it was when this had to happen you know. I think that this will be wrestlemainia with an asterix next to it as apoe like you wouldn't rank this the same way you wouldn't rank. Hey how good was the two thousand twenty. Nba season? Well you know. We'll put an asterisk next to it because it stopped halfway through. I don't know I don't know what would have happened but we'll talk about it historically but we can't really run. Its rank that on what's better. What's worse and who knows who knows how good some of this stuff will be so. They haven't announced at all what matches are happening. Which night they've announced fourteen matches. So you would think you're getting seven matches per show more or less right. Some might be longer than others but more or less. They're not doing Any battle royals which make sense. In a world of social distancing it becomes a little bit hard to control everybody. That's in Everybody that's in these matches you know. When is a battle royal? Hey guys if I can interrupt for just a moment you've heard me bring up a couple times throughout this episode already but the best way to help support not Sam. 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Tell them no when he said this has got to be on the biggest stage voice that we don't need it on a big stage that to me. I mean you hear commentators say. This match is a wrestlemainia caliber match. This match could happen wrestlemainia. This is but that to me is the most creative way of leading an audience. Know that something is wrestlemainia worthy without actually having to say it you know. I just thought that was a cool. Little thing that they did for Gargano and Champa so re-really versus Charlotte logic would. Have you believe that this match is about putting a spotlight on the new and putting spotlight on an xt? Right this match the logic of it would have you believe that. It's all about making rea- Ripley. Look like a million bucks and she gets her moment but that said I think Charlotte flares in a little bit of danger. Charlotte flair is in this dangerous spot of believe. She's the best women's wrestler on the planet when you combine everything best women's sports entertainer on the planet when you combine athleticism when you combine in ring when you combine promo when you combine personality when you combine a star factor it factor. I think Charlotte is the one that has it all. I think that Charlotte is as a female equivalent of John Cena. I've said that from the beginning. I believe it now more than ever but I think that something happens when you're as good as Charlotte that You run the risk of people taking that for granted and the fact that you can lose matches and not lose any of your star power you know. I think that's that's John. Cena story is all about the bray. You thought that about him but bray lost enough matches that he lost his star power. I don't think that that's a risk with Charlotte but I do hate to see that type of talent be taken for granted you know. I I personally would be much happier seeing Charlotte win the NFC championship. I Want Charlotte to win the annex t women's Championship and I want Charlotte to go to annex t and basically hold the place hostage by the way she doesn't have to leave raw charlotte can show up on raw with the NFC championship and everytime she's on TV. It's just a commercial for what's happening Wednesday nights on USA. But I think Charlotte's should be the next women's champion coming off of Wrestlemainia. You know that that that now I mean. Look at what you've got after that you know we're we're sitting here right. And we're getting ready for this Annex t women's ladder match. That's happening in two weeks on Wednesday. There's a gauntlet Second Chance Gauntlet match Zay Dakota kyw a Lia. Everybody that's lost matches gets a second chance right. We're assuming that somebody of those six is going onto the ladder match six way ladder match and let's be honest. We're assuming that the winner of that is GonNa Face Rear Ripley at the next takeover or whenever that matches allowed to happen. But how interesting would it be if if Bianca Belair one that ladder match and Charlotte one at Wrestlemainia? Everybody's been asking. What do you think this is gonNA lead to Bianca Bel Air in Charlotte Unique Bianca? Bel Air you know up until three weeks ago people were wondering if Bianca Bel Air would find her way into the match was Charlotte Rea- Ripley. I went on the bump. I it doesn't make any sense. She lost both people. She has no business in that match. But I think it's a hell of a lot more interesting to have charlotte walk out of Wrestlemainia with the women's championship and have either e or Bianca. Belair or Dakota Kyw if she wins the gauntlet match or whoever wins the ladder match going on to go like okay now my next challenge Charlotte and by the way now. You've got Ria Ripley. Who wants another shot at Charlotte? And you've got the winner of the women's ladder match that wants a shot at Charlotte. Keep in mind. You've got entire annexed to women's roster that's not too keen on Charlotte coming in here and taking the division back you. This is our time not your time so I think that there's there's much more potential for storytelling. I know you guys want that moment. Where Ripley stands tall at Wrestlemainia? But I wouldn't mind seeing reassembly after work a little bit more for something. I wouldn't mind seeing Ripley. Have some setbacks and have to come back from them. Shane obeys ler is the has the longest combined reign of any annex t women's champion. You know why it's a combined rain because at one point she lost a kite. Saying we don't really talk about that but she had to struggle. She had to fight back and then she went on Ria Ripley. Basically has this reputation of being you know the future and being the most bad ass person ever because she beat the person that's beat the entire women's roster okay to be the man you gotTa beat the man but it's not the same as being the person who beat the whole roster. She doesn't have the same energy. Shayna baseler Katrina. Baiser went through systematically destroyed the entire roster. You know I mean it's it's to me it's a shortcut if rea- Ripley just goes in she beat. Shane obeys lower than she beats. Charlotte she goes. Okay now. I'm the I'm the just the Queen of everything will you haven't beaten all just because you beat the people the beat everybody else doesn't mean you beat everybody else so. I would like to see that setback happen. I would like to see Ripley. Have to go all the way to the back of the line but take a few steps back at least realized that now not only has she lost the annex t women's championship a Wrestlemainia. Not only issue blown her opportunity to really shine but she doesn't even get the next opportunity because there's a ladder match that she's not involved in. That's the way I want to match to go. I Want Charlotte to win yet. Brock listener versus drew McIntyre. You know I think when I talked to Peter Rosenberg. I'm with him. I think that I think that this I think brock wins this. I think brock should win it. I think that drew should come back at Summer Slam and get his moment. You know and I get it. It's not the same as getting a moment wrestlemainia but this is not the same as getting a moment. Wrestlemainia you know. I think that I think that there should be some chicanery you know. I think that we can get there without making drew. Look worse and again we can spend some time now. Rebuilding DREW MCINTYRE AND REALLY MAKING. The people want it. But I think I think drew once once we're back in in buildings that's drew in Arenas and stadiums that to me is win. Drew should win that title. I WANNA hear Boston. React AT SUMMER. Slam FOR DREW MCINTYRE. Finally winning the championship. I also WANNA hear Paul. Heyman show up on raw on Monday. Go see I told you. Drew McIntyre would never be brock listener and by the way drew McIntyre will never have an opportunity to face brock listener again. And then drew's gotTa figure it out between now and August how he's going to get that opportunity But that's that's I want brock listener to win that match because of the situation because of of of the circumstances I think it would be better for all parties involved. Goldberg versus Roman reigns of course It would appear that that's not happening And I have heard rumors about who? Goldberg's opponent is actually going to be Either way whoever Goldberg defends his title against at Wrestlemainia Goldberg should not leave wrestlemainia universal champion. No matter what the scenario is no matter? What's going on in the rest of the world where there's eighty thousand people in building or zero people in building? Goldberg should not leave. Wrestlemainia with the championship at all Universal Championship should be back on smackdown. Even if we can't do live smack downs for a little for a few weeks for a month forever long. It's going to be. We should at least know that the champion will be on the show wants. The show is back I don't think Goldberg should leave. The performance center Orlando as universal champion at all not one iota and I would talk about like Oh who do you think should should face? Goldberg one scenario somebody because I think I already know who's going to face Goldberg but one scenario that I saw somebody put out. There was how interesting would it be if they made it? So that the winner of the fiend versus Johnson gets the shot at Goldberg. Which would be interesting. It would be interesting but you know I don't know if it's necessary. We got into this mess. Because the fiend was the champion. You know what I mean. I don't know how quickly we want to get back there. A six pack challenge has become a fatal five-way becky. Bailey is defending the smackdown women's championship against Lacey Evans. Naomi SASHA BANKS INTO MEENA. I don't yeah I don't I? Don't here's there's there's a few scenarios for this. That worked fine for me. I don't think this is the moment for lacy or Naomi. I think Naomi should get another crack at the women's championship at some point. But I don't think this is the moment for it. I think it would be really interesting to put the title onto Meena but I think really what you have to do here is have Sasha Tournai Bailey and get that title you know. Sasha banks is the biggest women's star on smackdown right now and she's not the champion and that's Bass ackward if you ask me. I think Sasha banks should turn on Bailey. I think Sasha banks should leave with the title I think going forward. Bailey is a good guy again but not hug Hug Bailey. It's it's you know we're we're finding that comfortable middle ground where Bailey is just a human being. You know But that's the way I would do that undertaker versus AJ styles. I mean this seems pretty. Cut and dry to me. Aj was very disrespectful. Aj brought up pictures of undertaker with a tiger. Aj brought up the man's wife. I think the good guy beats the bad guy here bad guy. Aj styles will be fine. You know I think Gals and Anderson get involved. I think cain maybe gets involved but at the end of the day. I think the undertaker tombstones AJ styles on a pile of bones in the middle of a bone yard and And undertaker undertaker wins this one like I said before Kevin Owens versus Seth Rollins. I to tell you the truth. I wasn't psyched on this match until Monday. One week ago was when I started to get excited about this match. And that was because of Seth rollins Promo Seth Rollins. Promo set things up. Perfectly to say that Kevin Owens is owed a wrestlemainia moment. I think when Seth Rollins is a bad guy and when he's on his game there is nothing better we got. We got a reminder of why we all thought Seth Rollins was the guy and not Roman reigns when he was a bad guy the first time we got a reminder of why I mean. Here's what I want you to do. If you're not sure about seth rollins. Here's what I want you to go back to. When he was injured. Okay go back. Twenty was injured years ago. His return was messed up. He returned as a bad guy. Even though his his injury it was like triple h levels of disappointment for the fans meaning when triple h got injured and he came back even though when he left he was a bad guy when triple h returned it was like he was the biggest guy in the company. Seth could've been that way to go to the wwe network and watch the documentary. That was filmed on seth. While he was recuperating I challenge you I challenge you to tell me. He's not your favorite wrestler after that documentary. That is the Seth rollins. We need to get back to and I feel like that's happening here. I think Kevin owns sh- probably will and should win this match. I don't think you know you spend your time on. Tv pointing out that a guys failure and fails at Wrestlemainia and then he goes to Wrestlemainia and fails. It's tough for him to come back on Monday and say I'm still good though right because I would say no clearly. You're not very good Kevin. But if you win you go well. I guess the curse is broken. Isn't it and that's what you WANNA see. So Kevin Owens in that one. I've heard a lot about the MS and John Morrison versus the new day versus Usoz I I would probably let Miz and Morrison retain you know although they haven't done that much as champions to tell you the truth and I know wow. They defended against every tag team in the Elimination Chamber. Yeah yeah streep profits versus and dry Angel Garza. That's another match that I've heard stuff about but Yeah I would think that the prophets win in that match. Just a classic. Let's put some bad guys together and have them lose to the good guy. Tag team champions Alastair black versus Bobby Lashley with Lana ouster black. Elias versus King Corbin. Some point BANCORP has got to start winning matches right guy who loses every match and then is still like. Oh he's gotta face Baron Corbin I think Barron Corbin's gotTa make mincemeat out of allies here. He should especially every threw him off that podium. I really hope I really hope this is all Baron Corbin Intercontinental Championship. Sammy's aim versus Daniel. Bryan again this mess should be on on grappling. Matt's this should be in a grappling. Jim this should be a traditional Greco Roman style wrestling match withdrew. Gulick as a coach and says. Ro in Nakimora coaches. I think Sammy's ancient win. This match actually I. I think I yeah I think there should be a there should be a same Zane specialty I mean. I think that Sammy's Zane as an annoying bad guy. It's it's like you have this guy who can be a great manager and also it's imaginative. Bobby Heenan didn't represent the intercontinental champion. Imagine if Bobby Heenan was the intercontinental champion and then like Rick Rubin Hukou made shore that he retained that title all the time it would be so obnoxious but in the best possible way. I love this this twist on an old classic for Sammy's aim so I want him to keep the title here. And then of course the peace deras e stalls edge versus. Randy Orton last man. Standing empty arena. They're gonNA tear the house down. I have no doubt about it. This this one hundred percent for me is going to be the match that steals the show. Now look something that you have to keep in mind is. We've now got a two night by the way this hosted by Rob Gronkowski keep in mind. Now we've got fourteen matches that are going to play out over two days at an empty performance center. Everything that we've seen from. Wwe On television so far save for x t has been a lot of magic dust. Right every show has had at least one if not to pre-tape matches from all shows Every show has been promo promo heavy and every show has had maybe two matches total and those two matches are usually like four minutes long so I think the wwe is going to have a lot up their sleeves for wrestlemainia. I I would imagine. We're still going to have lots of surprises. Did I talk about Becky? I don't think I think I skipped Becky Lynch. I skipped two matches Becky Lynn versus Shane. Obeys Ler it's one of those things. It depends on what you WANNA do here. If you WANNA keep becky lynch like I see. I see Charlotte John. Cena I see becky lynch like Hulk Hogan some people say like Stoeckel. I'd say like Hulk Hogan I see becky lynch like Hulk Hogan and yeah you have that moment you know you have your survivor series. Ninety one moment where you really WanNa get the undertaker over and he beats Hulk Hogan you could do that. You could have this moment. Where all my God? Shane obeys largest tapped out. Becky Lynch there really is no stopping her. Or You could have Becky Lynn. I my instinct is to have becky win. I think it would be a lot. I think it would do. A million thousand hundred things for. Shane obeys to beat Becky Lynch it would make her. It would put her on top immediately but I mean it almost goes back to Ripley. I would almost rather see her. Continue to prove herself. We haven't seen her that much since she's come to raw. I mean. She took out everybody in the Elimination Chamber. But I'd rather see her. Take out everybody in individual matches. You know I'm not ready to see. Shayna baiser do that although I mean you have Shayna. Baiser beat Becky Lynch. And now she's got to have the big comeback possible. You know I'm I'm not I I'm kind of I feel like Wrestlemainia Becky. Lynn should have the moment to stand Haiku. Right now. I've got Charlotte winning bad guy. I've got brock winning bad guy. I got Gobert losing which is good. I got a lot of bad guy. Entertainment Kevin owns but in terms of main events edge. Beating Randy Orton. A lot of bad guys winning at Wrestlemainia though for me so I feel like you need to give this one to Becky but I am going to sit here and acknowledge that if you add shine a win. It really does make Shayna for Monday night raw and then by the way in the interview that we do this week with Becky Lynch She does hint to. Maybe something that could be added. I think for Wrestlemainia this year and then John Cena versus the fiend has got to be the feed. It's definitely got to be the So what I was saying. Before was that. They haven't done a ton of wrestling heavy main roster wrestling heavy matches at the performance center in front of no audience. I have to believe that there's GonNa be a ton of pomp and circumstance. I have to believe that there will be a ton of surprises. I have to believe that there will be a ton of tricks. I think this is going to be a very very creative wrestlemainia. I don't think that this is going to be two nights to three. To four hour shows of wrestling matches would know audience. I think you're GONNA see all these matches or some interruption of them. But you're going to see I think you're gonNA see a lot of tricks you know and we still got an episode of raw and we still got an episode of smackdown to add stipulations to these things. I still think Daniel Bryan versus Sammy. Zane must happen on a grappling. I still think Elias versus King. Corbin must happen in a concert hall. You know I still think Kevin owns versus seth. Rollins should be in a cage. But that's me that's me I'm optimistic. I think it's going to be really interesting. Memorable show So yeah that's what I'm thinking I'm looking in the discord room and soak it. Says I'd like to see Becky win. But not what the disarm her maybe multiple. Beck splutters you know. I think it's one of those things where he's got a win on a roll up. You know what I mean I. I don't think that Becky should win. I think she should win. In a very similar white you know you know how she should win with the exact same pin that she beat Ronda. Rousey with that's how becky should now Chenab as ler shoulder should actually be on the mat but I think she should win with the exact same pin just because it would make everybody talk. It would be poetic. It would lead to this moment and Shane obeys our could sit there glaring at her from the outside. You know I and then you could have a great return match with. Shane obeys ler wanting to avenge her only defeat. You know what I mean. I think it could be more interesting to have becky being the only one that can beat Shayna than have Shayna being the only one that could be becky But I think she should pin her the same way she pinned Ronda Rousey with that kind of back. Row thing But yeah like I said. I'm optimistic for this thing. I think it's GonNa be interesting. I think he's GonNa be different then. Think it's going to be memorable and those are the only things that you can ask for in wrestling. I also I would love to make I. I could be doing something cool this week. I want you guys to make sure that you're following me on social media because I don't want to jinx anything and announce anything too early but within a couple days I should be able to say something So make sure that you're following me. Not Sam on twitter instagram facebook. Wherever because once it's one hundred fifty percent confirmed. I'll confirm it with you guys but I don't. 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I can't even believe you're doing this phone call right now and I've looked at like what you're doing as the world is turned upside down. Do you feel like you have slowed down one iota or Yeah a little bit but in In the best possible way they think. Sometimes you're so busy going and on The don't really get a chance to to think about everything that's going on Gives you sit back and get a little bit more creative and think of when when things like this are happening. What can you do to us? How can you? How can you make story go for it and then it gets front way? How can how can you push the envelope in in ways? That people aren't Aren't doing so I think that's what That's what I can complain and I think when you don't have those obstacles you you don't think about them. Yeah that makes a lot of science especially I was thinking like when you've got somebody that you had a triple threat with but you really don't have a ton of experience with in the ring you know you've had a couple of confrontations yet the Triple Threat November. But beyond that. You really haven't had time together to figure out who you guys are in a match. Is that something that weighs on you. You're like okay. We've got to figure out not only what this chemistry is. But now what stories can we tell when? There's no audience in the building absolutely and the thing that Shane as well as she's she's such a technician and she clearly skilled she's she was a top cage. H Wider for ten years straight Pioneer for women's MMA she's Held the NFC women's sham being shipped. For God I don't know that the combined longest rain an and she has a huge skill set. But we haven't really seen much of it on well. I haven't witnessed coach of it first time because always high is yes. That's triple threats. We didn't put a bunch and Took me and a little bit of a wall and then I smile during the back of the head with a with a chair and she'll apart from that there's been no feeling out process this is going to be Is this GonNa be interested in the ring? Wrestlemania others well. It took him up to cool I think for me the fact that there is no find somebody who flies from that energy you feed off. The energy to the people are are what got me to wear a out for them. I don't know that I'd be doing what to do it So that's going to be interesting but I didn't so something that I've talked to sit back. We evaluate home. I rejoice GONNA use like five As opposed to like just launch. Yeah what was it like when you first stepped in the ring on raw for an empty arena? Promo because you're right. I mean I think that that you and your whole style has been kind of reacting to and giving the fans something to react to like. There's that kind of course. And that's why I feel like you've been able to maintain for the last year since last year's Wrestlemainia on this level where the fans haven't turned on you like they're still riding with you pretty much on the same level that they were when you were the underdog who just needed this opportunity when you get in there and it's like okay. I'm going to deliver this Promo. This is what I do. This is what I'm good at but now there's not an audience so like I can't draw the line and have the audience either laugh or go. Ooh Or cheer or whatever it is like these catchphrases that you've kind of mastered you can only assume that they're working at home right. Yeah that's the hope and I think that's what you've got to be a little bit more folks and really think what your message is what you want to get across the nuances that you want people to pick up on and you have to read anything that you have to be hero in. Remember that even though there's nobody there there's millions of people watching at home. I'm a needle breaking that needing escape As if you give them out of it it does require a whole different A whole different set of concentration Because we are used to riffing off the crash okay. That didn't work out. All right. All right there with me on this okay. They didn't know about okay. Maybe we're just here so So now we're really just going on instincts. Would we feel it's right? Yeah and it's kind of I feel like where you figure out who the really great performers are because there have been moments where you go not only did that work that might have worked better in an empty arena than it would have in a full arena just because people are adapting and people are now working directly off their instincts. Did you kind of have in your head okay? This is this is going to feel like this is how I need to change things up or was it when you got into the ring and you let that first sentence out and it was quiet behind you. Is that where it clicks in and you go. Oh this is what this feels like. This is where we're going from here so I think I've had a bit of an advantage because I personal like a came from the independent work you use to performing in front of nobody in of step in and I it's been as quiet as if there is no nobody in the crowd at maybe some time so people wish you can hear everything that they aren't saying maybe they're not so good still Yeah I think that helped as well I also think You know I got my degree and I think we would have to do those things or ghetto helping makes any noise and And you have to perform this Say things but it's also just it's talking and it's it's what I feel and it's It's my mindset. The amplitude school at their vocalizing. What you just have to make sure you do it in an engaging way. It doesn't third to become monotonous. Yeah Yeah and yeah you have confidence that your point has been made even though there's nobody there letting you know we get what you're saying right. Yes hopefully I hope two points. That I'm making are intelligent and articulate enough. People get so whether there is a credit for now. Yeah I mean it's interesting because I feel like it makes it so that storytelling becomes even more important than ever before right that the that you're watching. I'm watching at home and I'm going okay now. I'm getting now I'm really. It's not just energy that I'm watching. I'm getting sucked into what's being said. I'm getting I'm listening to the stories being told and now I really start to figure out motivation and I really start to figure out the wise in all this Jackie and I'm that's the most interesting part eventually it's all about the nuances and yet people tune into any show for its the nuances and I The nuances of stories coming back. So the more we keep telling that and Keep doing that that that I was thinking about the ability. That all of you really especially now but it's just part of the way. Wwe works the ability to kind of go with the flow and change on the drop of a dime and just figure out what today's set of circumstances. And how are we going to work with? Those made me think about like a year and a half ago before last year's Wrestlemainia when everything changed a week before survivor series. When you had this match that was at the time going to be the biggest match your career with Rhonda Rousey it was. I think one of the first times that people were going into a pay per view going. That's it's a women's match and that's the match that I want to see the most and it got cancelled last minute because of injury But it ended up obviously working out for the better because of what it ended up leading to at Wrestlemainia. Do you think when you think back on that now like a year and a half later. Do you think if you had had that match at survivor series with Rhonda in twenty eighteen. I guess Do you think wrestlemainia would've been the same last year? Well that's a good question It's so hard to tell I think would have Everything that I quote to get into that much I I really. I think that was what they want it. That was what I think. I just found way If there's one thing I feel like I was thinking about it and it's For finding the way to adopt to get into positions that have wanted to give. It's not always work that for the majority of the time to to Baker one really has and it's like you see a path try clear that leaves to get there but it so crazy just the entire year and a half from from dodge from launch for the two thousand Eighteen Wrestlemainia two thousand twenty today for instance the but a lot of things that have happened so interesting but it's all a pet adoption and survival and that's what humans are so great at the I'm that's what you've gotta do a performer. Actually yes that's something that that played into your head after you won the title last year that okay. I'm not the underdog anymore. I'm not the People's choice that can just never get ahead. I've gotten literally everything that I've wanted. I got the main event Wrestlemainia. I beat the biggest star in the company. I literally want both titles. There is no more opportunity that I could sit there and say I deserve. I'm not getting now. I'm getting it and now I've got to live up to that That that that level. And that's a moment where a lot of people if they're not ready for it if they don't change and they don't adapt as we're talking about fan start to turn on him. That's when it's like. That's almost like that that moment when your favorite band goes from this independent band to the band that everybody likes and then you go. Why don't like him anymore because now everybody likes him did you. Did you think to yourself over the last year? I have to keep changing. I have to keep people on their toes because otherwise I'm GONNA lose them. Oh Oh yeah. Yeah all all all the time I stocked with everything like okay. How do you tell this story or you know? It's it's you've seen in the ring with. Flies is different you like for example. Wrestling Sasha. I'd already rash look at different but is it different. This time How can I get people to care about this you on themselves? Why should they care about this? Moore? The same with off got global about the one like it never beach that is all of this falls. Visit Hopping the Oscars one person. I can never be an what do I have to do to change to a dot learned in this journey. And how can I show the people that Okay Kalin this? I've changed I've got I've moved on a throne of course it's with all of their support all their health and and I think a lot of that is is listening knowing your audience but also not want people are are entitled to change their opinion then there They might they might turn our view and they might You might not be for them anymore. They might want somebody fresh in my want. Somebody I that. That's okay that that the your reasoning for for adjusting. What you doing it has to feel right and feel okay. This is where I'm going. Is this the purpose that I want to to follow? Is this a story that I want to tell and you have to think okay? They people love me and they're gonNA look whatever I do and let me serve them. What is the best way that I can entertain instead of the people that are going to hate me how can I entertain them? How can I make them to me? That's just not Jimmy. You're not you're not ever that's like that's like chasing after the boy. You just like you. You know it's like how can I change me? It's just not gonNA happen to you. Know I think you have to keep thinking okay looking like my son for what did they want to see? I how can I serve that? I I think that's yeah and there are some times. We have to go to wrestlers and you have to look at them and I know you want the fans. But they're just not that into you right now. They're just they're just not that into you. Not that yeah it's damn somebody else. There's nothing you can do about it. Do you have a favorite match moment story anything in the last year that you feel like since winning the title like that is that is something that I'll put up on the metaphorical mantle. You know. I think it'd been Being like three or four I. I think I really proud of much at houses sell. Sasha beat the hell out of each other Creative pose a different story and then when it came to Oh I Summer slam wrestling heard a home country and not really having a lot of time and both of us being the inside saved rich How'd do you had you? Had you make people care about this without getting bored and submission which is always hard because you know what False finishes in dot regard the one to take. Oh No So it That was tricky and that was a child was and I was really. I'd much too. And then and then Oscar just finally getting to be her and then We had a match on raw. Do much before. Shannon from Camden did a big chunk of them. A Walk about that was three segments. And I think we had Because we haven't worked together a lot right and I think you just saw Rebellious adopted on. Learn each other's bodies better and We're able to put on a better a better Much Have a hell of a fight by the end of it when you go into this match with. Shane Obeys Ller for Wrestlemainia. Are You thinking to yourself? Not only do we have to make this a great match. But how do we remind people that this is Wrestlemainia? Like you know what I mean. We're we're so used to Wrestlemainia being in this these stadiums full of people where everybody's around all weekend and just the world looks different. It's it's it's it's not the greatest timing in the world for for what's going on globally to be happening at the same time as Wrestlemainia but the show goes on as best it can and it almost becomes completely reliant on you the performers to remind US watching at home this is wrestlemainia. We need to give you that feeling that you're used to have you thought about how does how do. I translate that feeling in the energy in this circumstance. I think the word that you just use the energy. It's not energy that you feel that That tentative and why it's so important to you why is this so that you hold onto this championship especially now especially in a time where people people need something to be traded about Something to look forward to and the fact that we're able to still get the mess ameinias very psychotic On the fact that okay. They can't be here with their watching at home because they can't be here. I think. Keep that in the dot of knowing but they're all tune in then I you have to bring it more like this is. This is your time as a performer. Where you really have to give them what they need. And what date is there especially this crazy? I think you find that realizing like this is so important. Why do you want to win this this championship? So bad? Why do I need to retain this Kathy? Chips about Think overnight and fighting with your whole heart. Yeah Yeah I mean I think I think that's it. Whose idea was it to put the becky low key graphic on a t shirt with you in the crown and the sunlight's isn't for coat and the title. Whose idea was that to make that. A T shirt. Oh that was So they sent they. They sent me right right. The next day they had they had low key on the low key. Becky written taken off at that age. Just the image by itself. It's just it's so cool. Yeah I haven't gotten yes. I like it a lot. I think it's a good idea and it's the second time in your mugshot was a t-shirt too. I feel like that's that's now the second photo from the TV show that they've just been like okay. Now this is a t shirt it is actually pretty good What happened to face on the I? Guess that's what it is that great little face. What happened to the Becky Lynch truck so on a couple of weeks ago looked awesome? Felt like you know if somebody was like. Hey here's a not Sam truck that we want you to drive in you know this week. I'd be like this is great but I'm GONNA need to keep this truck and drive it everywhere because you know there's no better clout in the world do you. Did you make any effort whatsoever to keep the Becky Lynch truck? Oh you'll see it again. Not It again. Good you will see it again. I also I hope so but still necessary. It's an unnecessary monstrosity. Right exactly every every championship should have their face on a truck. Every every chance I think so. I think absolutely what happens to you when you when you slow down. Because I'm sure a lot of a lot of people have said the thing that you don't understand once you become a champion in the WWe. A world champion. It's a totally different ballgame. You know. The the schedule's not only the matches being on every show the media that level of matches. Just it's non-stop non-stop non-stop and you've been doing that for a year. What happens to you when you start to slow down when you travel less when you when you end up in a situation like you said where you you have begun to slow down and go back into your brain a little bit. Yeah we'll we have to write in but it's probably one of those things where it's it's it's it's painful at the beginning but it so what need is so good because you get so So busy doing But you never get to to sit and be with yourself and okay. How how are you feeling how? How has the whole year? Thank you And so I I. You know 'cause you're so used to being on the go on the go go have a good time and and I think sometimes you get exhausted and go God. I'd love a minute and then as soon as you get a minute. You're like no. I'm not working or whatever you know so it's constantly having to have it to buy those two sides. I mean the first First Week was a bit of an adjustment. Not Leasing on the Friday. And they'll go and work back onto do have shows and we're not gonNA do appearances and all of them getting counseled And and then you go okay all right well let me let me sit back. Let me study some more arrests than let me. Let me watch matches. And and Let me let me ride by what they want for the future and Let me We'll catch up with with with most points that I haven't talked to you. Let me say from people and all of those things that are also. Sometimes you know you can feel like you neglect what it's all cocoa and so it really is. It's been cooled that to be able to be at home and Cook Coke. Hey a cook every meal and And we don't get to do you know also it's it's little things like that. I think he appreciated you know that you can't. There's nothing you can do right like because they feel like you can. You can often get that on-scene when like you think. Oh what should I be doing once? You're GONNA be doing work harder when the answer is look at the moment really you can do this. You can start eating. Whatever you're upset drink potato you know. Yeah Yeah and remember like the thing about being a superstar is that you forget your human being sometimes every now and then you gotta start being a human being again and then you can pull it the superstar card after that. Yeah which is not for too long right right right back on. What before I let you go. I need to know what did you say to Byron? Saxton in the ring. You're the first person that got to speak to him. I feel like after. He took a swift swift. Nut shot from stone. Cold Steve Austin and then a stunner and I watched that and I saw you right before you took the beer. You look down and I'm assuming you said something did you say something to Byron. I said sorry about you. Sorry Sir what's going to happen then Bed Who knows what I what I senator to access. So many periods. Yeah that's right that's right. Well Look Wrestlemainia is going down Saturday and Sunday two nights. The bigger. It's the first WRESTLEMANIA. That's two nights. Do you have a preference. I mean after main eventing Wrestlemainia. Do you still have in your head. I want to go on last now. That it's two nights doesn't matter which night you're on. Do you have a preference where Becky Lynch and Shane Obeys Ler Lands on the card? Or is it just a scenario where you WANNA steal the show just scenario or want to feel the show and have a good flaking? That's all I WANNA do I just WANNA go there. And our people forget about what's going on in the world with five and And Walk Out of there. That's that's what I want. Shane Obeys Ler. Becky Lynch Saturday Sunday. Wwe Network Free for new subscribers wrestlemainia man. It's whether whether you feel it or not you will by the weekend because it's Wrestlemainia. Nothing can take that away from us. Thank you so much becky lynch thanks. Thanks for listening. 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Who Owns 2020 for Raw, Smackdown & NXT? - Notsam Wrestling 272

Notsam Wrestling

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Who Owns 2020 for Raw, Smackdown & NXT? - Notsam Wrestling 272

"Introducing your host from from New York. Here is Sam Rubbers Boy what a we had been for wrestling. Welcome to not SAM wrestling. I think the yeah the first franchise show as we call the Monday. Show the franchise. Josh show the first franchise show of twenty twenty. First podcast. Twenty twenty. Sports went up on Thursday Thursday. Not Sam Thursday. Hopefully you've had you had enough time before the weekend started to consume that amount of content because has man if you're wrestling fan. That is that I think is what twenty twenty is going to bring even more so than twenty eight team brought even more so than twenty nineteen brought the burden on the wrestling fan of twenty twenty is going to be to consume the amount of content that we consume. Of course you know people they go If you if you like wrestling there should be something out there for you. But let's be honest most wrestling fans don't want to watch something they don't WanNa find the one form of wrestling that appeals to them most wrestling fans. Just because of the way we're designed are the hard core ars most wrestling fans WanNa watch it all and that's the predicament that we're in because because it becomes very very difficult for us to watch it all with the WWE network with the fight TV APP with new Japan world with the independent wrestling DOT TV TV and smart mark video all coming together. There's just so much going on and there's very you've now the only excuse you have to miss anything now because it's all become. I'm so accessible. The only excuse to miss anything has become. I just didn't have time. There's only so many hours in the a day I'm trying to. I'm trying to have a life. I'm trying to live a life but you know what we're not really living a life unless we're doing our best to get as much wrestling into that life as humanly possible of course smackdown on Friday which was full of returns. A couple of turns and many returns. You saw the return of shameless show. The return of the USOZ saw the return of John Morrison which is really stacking the deck for smackdown. He'll turn for the MS is I mean. That's what smackdown was all about this week and then Friday night late night and now I feel for you. UK folks you always hear from the UK folks folks that will tell you every pay per view for us in the middle of the night any of the UK folks that WanNa Watch pay-per-view in the middle of the night. I WANNA watch pay per view live because of the time difference. It's in the middle of the night. Okay once a year we in America get to complain about that as well. And that's wrestle kingdom. I saw some people I mean I was driving me crazy. There are people on the West Coast going Agata. I got a pot of coffee on. I'm ready to stay up to watch the whole thing. I'm like Oh all you gotta do stay up till like two three in the morning and you can watch the whole thing. I knew it was bad on Saturday night when I was in bed with my phone own with the fight. TV APP falling asleep watching Juiston ligers last match because that was one of the earlier matches on the evening and I said this is going to be tough. I am still all making a grand effort to try to catch up. I'm so far behind on everything wrestle kingdom. I've been trying to go to the the MUSC- staff. Of course the Will Osprey match inch the Jericho match the main events. You know there's a lot there's a lot there the lighter stuff just because it's history it's fusion ligers retirement a lot there. That was late night Friday and late night Saturday earlier. In the evening Saturday I was on the independent wrestling dot TV APP and promotion called IC- W I think impact championship wrestling. Believe it or not but I see W New York here in the states not I c w from the UK. I C W view New York in the states put on a show that was called no-holds-barred volume one and it was all the matches. Obviously they were no-holds-barred but it was beyond that because they actually replaced the ring ropes with chains so it was a standard wrestling ring except instead of ropes it was metal chains means and then they had the You know the platforms on top of the Corner Post. So that 'cause it's going to be real tough to your top rope maneuvers when the top row is was actually links of steel chain so they had platforms there to do that stuff but they adapt matches. They had razor boards. At one point one of the matches they had a aboard the wooden board made of hand saws so it was like handsaw that were blade up laid out across across the wooden board so that they could just slam each other or throw the board onto somebody and getting saws thrown on you. It was grotesque. But that's the stuff that I sign up for. I like seeing that stuff. Tessa Blanchard and a match with Nick. Gage Nick Gage by the way is death match legend. I'd let's get him on the podcast sometime. Because I've been watching Nick Gage for years. He was a part of Jersey all pro when I was doing commentary over there but he had had a no holds barred match with Tessa. Blanchard inter-gender no-holds-barred chains for robes. Mind you Tessa. Blanchard came out victoriously and then call out amazing red for the next ice W New York show. Tessa Blanchard is just on fire right now. Nacro Butcher came back. He had had retired. Actually I think I did commentary on his quote unquote retirement match a few years back and think he came out of retirement last year at George Spring Break Lake show but I mean he. He looked to be an old man when he came to the ring at this show at no-holds-barred and I looked him up. He's only only forty six years old. I couldn't believe what I saw. He's only forty six years old. But I guess death matches take a lot out of you made me watch the wrestler slur against so I could see Nacro butcher in their explained. To Mickey Rourke Randy the ram how staple guns work in wrestling matches. I don't know it was. It was incredible but it just made me realize and he. He ended up giving his choose death t shirt to slack slack. The death match man at the end of the evening again. Another slack is becoming a legend in his own right on the east coast. I don't know if he's all over the world yet. I know here on the East Coast. He does death matches all the time so anyway huge weekend of wrestling But today day I wanted to do a special not sam wrestling show. I promise you next week. We're going to get back to our usual format but today because there's only so so much time that we're going to have to really analyze the year before it happens and I know we did a best not a best of but a twenty nineteen eighteen and review show and we did a twenty tens in review show with Wade Keller. Last week on Thursday we had to update. There was so much topical stuff happening opening but today instead of doing a traditional not sam wrestling interview which again returns next week. Of course I wanted to talk about twenty twenty and what I think twenty twenty should bring in the wwe and who specifically twenty twenty should belong to. So I made a couple of lists that I thought we could all discuss here today on the podcast. I made a list of its list list of three people. It's actually four lists of three people. I have a list of three people who I believe would be key signings to the wwe. I have a list of three people from raw a list of three from smackdown and a list of three from annex t who I believe have the potential to own a twenty twenty two have. In some cases a resurgence in other cases a first coming to the wrestling world world in the Year of our Lord Twenty Twenty. So here we go. Here's what I'm thinking. I think I'm going to start with and we'll talk about different superstars but the people who I think will have a successful year but will kind of continued tin. You'd be having the year that they've been having. That's not so much what I'm talking about. These aren't the only people who I think will have success success. These are just the people who I think will will change things for themselves. This is going to be a chain even more successful or the first success in some cases so I believe in twenty twenty. There are three signings that I would like. WWE specifically to make. When I was thinking about who I think? WWe should bring on board. I wanted to keep it at least somewhat realistic so oh I avoided people certainly anybody on a contract with eight w right because this isn't just super super super fantasy. I also avoided people that are under contract with ring of honor and there is one exception to that. And that's my caveat. That's my fourth under the three. I think right now out of everybody in ring of honor ending. WWe should bring in somebody who I think could be ring of honor champion today. Somebody who I think is just so different and so interesting and just just piques my interest. Every time I see him. And that's Jeff Cobb. WWE W. E. should have jeff Cobb on their roster. I think that that he's not like anybody else. Based on his size his not only agility ability but ability I his amateur background for whatever reason everything about Jeff Cobb in the wrestling ring compels me and that's why I think you should be there. He's technically on my list because he's a ring of honor guy and I didn't want to do a whole bunch of ring of honor and guys who are locked up under different contracts And even though I say that the first person on my list is clearly under a new Japan contract. Everybody says that we'll all spray or would not everybody but a lot of people say that will all sprays the best wrestler in the world right now punk tweeted out something to that effect and and I you know it's hard to argue that opinion. There is a gift going around of Of a back and forth that he had in his match at wrestle kingdom and you could you can certainly sit there and go like this is unbelievable. There's nothing like this. Can you imagine putting this on an even bigger scale but to me somebody who I would love to see in the wwe. Somebody who I think bleeds. Oozes exerts charisma is Takahashi. Ah She hero Mu Takahashi I. I've thought that since before you got injured you can go back. I think probably two kingdoms ago I said the exact same thing but I I think when I see Takahashi there's just there's an instant is to the TV screen. I want to see what this guy's going to do. And it's not just because he's incredible in the ring it's because he presents this character that goes beyond language barriers. That goes beyond sort of I. It's just interesting. There's something something instantly interesting about this guy. And I would like I mean I think that a mouthpiece I think he'd be good as like somebody's somebody's second. That would eventually betray them and become the first right. So let's say like even even in a drew McIntyre. Have you drew McIntyre who was all business and Takahashi who is at his side just kind of pulling the puppet strings but making it seem like oh I didn't know. Oh no you're the boss. You're the boss. But he's sitting there pulling the puppet strings. I would love to see something like that I think that he could instantly fit in to the wwe. Even if I don't know what what his level of English is but I don't think it would matter. I think that that you you as soon as you see that guy on the screen as soon as you see him. Walk to the ring as soon as you look at the pink hair Erin for jacket and the tights and the whole thing. You instantly understand what you're looking at and I feel like that transcends winds anything that is the entertainment value that is the factor. I think he's got it. I think it goes beyond the ability to have a five star match ranch. I think he goes beyond the ability to cut a great promo. I think it's that intangible people talk about the tangible all the time and all I see is the it factor and the intangible from Takahashi every time I see him I go. Can you imagine how great he would be in in the wwe. And I know a lot of you guys go. Yeah I can imagine they would screw him up. That's the a lot of people's opinion on what. WW does and that's fine. That's not my opinion I'm a wwe. The person I think that when you had wwe's production value when you add they're they're sort of sculpted the grandiose nature of everything that they do. And I wouldn't even put an X.. T. I would move him straight to the main roster I would instantly give him character. It wouldn't be like. Oh here's this buzz worthy signing from New Japan. Let's see what he does. Hey guys just Gimme a SEC here. You heard shortage on smackdown this week. Saying rise to the size was his catchphrase rise to the size. Well if you want to rise to the size and when I say size I mean your peak size than what you might need is blue. Yeah blue it's going to allow you to rise to the size that both you and your partner want in your genitals to be and it's going to allow you to do it all the time you're gonna be like a teenager again always ready to go whether we have a d. whether you have confidence issues it's all part of a plan that can be undone with a little bit of blue. 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He's here because that happens so often people who have like outside buzz they come in. And you're like Oh. Those are the guys from Japan and then it takes six months before any kind of traction bills up and you're sitting there scratching your head going what happened. And it's because that due diligence wasn't put it in to explain to your audience who and what this person is so I think you instantly give them a place you instantly give him a reason for being and you put him right there. So that's my number one number two and this is also a pipe dream because at this point he could go anywhere he wants and at this point he's got friends basically everywhere. You could make the argument for him to go absolutely anywhere. And that man is the villain Mardi girl I think I I. I think that marks Carl should go to wwe. And I think the wwe me should get Mardi girl. I think that look. Let's be honest if he goes to e W he's not going to be the number one guy if he goes to a w Kenny Omega is not the number one guy you'd sit there and go of course. Can you make is going to Kenya. Omega isn't even close to the number one guy over there he's like an attraction you know the way they've set things up it would be cool but but number one. It wouldn't shock anybody because people would kind of expect that because of the history of being the elite so nobody would be shocked number two. He's not ah the biggest star in the league so the fact that the elites not the even the biggest stars on TV and he's not the biggest star in the elite would lead me to believe he would not be the biggest guy there however this is the one guy annex t was on a run for a while of getting buzzed about people and having them show up at takeovers when Matt Riddle showed up in the audience of takeover a year before that when Adam Cole ran through the crowd and showed up at takeover when these moments happen. There's this buzz that collects about both the next he product an an annex. T has done an amazing job of turning everybody. Who debuts that way in the stars if you had Mari Ari skirl show up at takeover wrestlemainia weekend unannounced? As surprise he is instantly the the biggest star in annexed instantly for sure for sure for sure you know I just don't I he would be. It would be run right into Mari. Scroll and annexed stack so well right now that you wouldn't even have to go well okay. That means it's going to be martyrs girl versus Adam Cole right away. It wouldn't be Adam. Marty Scroll for example right away. I mean by the way that would be interesting because the bullet club history. We would get there but we can do Maurice girl vs Tomasz. Oh Chop Tampa. We can do. Marty scroll versus Finn. Ballard we've got all these new Mardi girl versus Johnny Gargano. We've got all these matches because that roster is so stacked right now that our main event in caliber matches that are not your next championship match. I mean you've got well actually you've gotta takeover in February I believe before wrestlemainia takeover. So you have Mari Scroll come out and shocked at the February takeover show and then at Wrestlemainia you do Adam Cole versus to Moscow CIAMPA marks Carl versus Finn ballor earlier. You do fin ballard versus Johnny Gargano Tomas O.. CIAMPA versus Mardi skirl to Moscow chompers Amari Squirrel and then Adam Cole versus whoever Keith Lee. Imagine that imagine if you go into Wrestlemainia weekend with takeover that's Adam Cole versus Keithly Tosoh CIAMPA versus Mardi skull Johnny Gargano Versus Finn Valor Rea- Ripley versus versus. Whoever and I've got my pick for Ripley down on this list I mean there's no show in the world can compete with that you Mari Ari skirl onto that list about your main event? Seen an annex t right now and Keith Lee fin ballor Johnny Gargano Tomasso also Champa five five right. They're not to mention at any point. There's a sea of people the Cook it turned into the next guy. You can still got velveteen dream. Whose Velveteen Dream was going to say velveteen? And then I said dream after it so the emphasis was all over the place but you still got the velveteen eighteen dream. I think Shane Swerve. Whatever swerve Scott is going to? Ub a main event guy. I think swerve Scott is one of the best signings he made in two thousand nineteen. You Got Him who you haven't even scratched the surface with yet. You Got Trevor Lee. You get Dominic di Jakovic waiting in the wings Damian priest waiting being in the wings dude that roster and exte- is giving you the potential to put on wrestling shows that there is simply no match for anywhere in the world and you put Mardi girl on that list for both annex t and Marty skirl you got something unstoppable. I believe I think it's Im- both both parties interest I think Mardi scroll becomes a much bigger star and I think he becomes an even bigger brand personally. And maybe I'm annex t homer and I just love the brand so so much. The that's where I'm going with it and that's true I got my biases but I mean I think it'd be amazing my third signing for. WWe On this list is killer cross killer cross can be very very interesting because he's well known enough thirties and notable signing. But he's not so well known that you can't shape him into a very interesting character. He's got an amazing presence in the ring. He's got an amazing raising style because he's big but he moves quickly knows how to use his feet right. He's got that stare. That makes you believe that is Jay's got. He's got a coldness is to him that you can't make up. You can't have anybody do that I think he's he's he's when I see him. I look at a guy who has incredible potential. I look at a guy who could be a lot of different things and I look at a guy who have people like Shawn Michaels and triple h and Terry Taylor and Albert. And all the people connects t started to get their hands on him. Norman Smiley boy. They can turn him into something special. I think that the killer crosses the type of guy that could go to annex t and become a completely new entity and I think he could be so successful that and this is not an insult anything. He's done before but he could be so successful that you've forgotten everything he's done before I didn't kill across by if he were to get signed early in this year and get on. TV You know within the first six months by the end of twenty twenty you would. You're talking about a guy who you would forget is not. WWe homegrown. Because I think I think he'd get encapsulate. What A? WWe superstar superstar is so those are my three people. Takahashi Mardi girl and killer cross I think would be three blockbuster signings for WWe in twenty twenty I think that if they were to get signed by wwe they could run things and it would put wwe and even better position in terms terms of the product to get put on every week. Let's talk about the people who are in. WWe And who. I think should capture this year like a lightning bolt in the sky. And I guess we'll start with an x t since we're talking so much about xt. And I think the obvious people to say will run. Twenty twenty or keith Lee and Ripley. They are not on my list. Not because they won't run twenty twenty but because number one very obvious and number two. They're already set up to write like Keith. Lee is already. He's already been elevated to that main event level in annex not rea- Ripley has already won the annex t women's Championship. It is a given that going into two thousand twenty rea- Ripley and Keith Lee. Are the female female and male superstars who have rise in the last year to that level if anything their accomplishments would be the journey. They took in two thousand nineteen to arrive arrive at where they're getting to in two thousand twenty I don't think when you're looking at who is going to dominate twenty twenty. I don't think it's fair to say well who's dominating eminating January that's who's going to dominate twenty twenty also. I don't think it's very interesting conversation to have on a podcast because Adu- so that's the only reason those two people aren't on my list. Dominic di Jakovic also not on my list. But also we're talking about you know Dominic di Jakovic and Keith. Lee were neck neck and neck since October right the on the first episode of an x t on USA it was dominic Di Jakovic versus keithly and that rivalry kind of took place until right around November and survivor series. Hit Eh brought keithly to whole new level. The Dominic di Jakovic has not gotten to yet dominic Di Jakovic as we just talked about is not not in the main event seen in annexed right now. He's one step away from that main events seen so that's somebody to look. Could he get to that. Main event seen very very easily Willie. We'll see the thing about it. Is there that roster is so packed with so much talent that it becomes very very difficult to break through and let's say a Mardi skirl a killer cross a Jeff Cobb. Let's say somebody like that shows up an annex t they would get elevated very quickly coming with some buzz would they get elevated past guys that have been working there already. It's possible so annex t is a unique beast I in that way however I think Dominic Djakovica somebody with the potential to make a big impact in two thousand twenty but not somebody who's was on my list. My list of top three goes like this number one and I'm not sure. I don't think that this person will make there impact in Annex T. I think that this person will make there impact outside of annex t but right now they're an NFC superstar and that's why they're on this list number. One is Shayna baiser. I think Shane Obeys Ler. Losing to rea- Ripley was not about. It was about two things. It was obviously about elevating rea- Ripley but I do not think it was about Shayna baseler taking a back seat in an xt and allowing that title to be moved throughout some new talent. I think that it was about Chenab as later freeing herself of the annex t women's championship to go off and start doing some new things there is a was not. It is not coincidence or accidental. That at the end of survivor series. Even though Becky Lynch was in the Hogan position even though Becky Lynch had her hand in the air at the end end of the night Shayna bazalar won the triple threat match as I predicted on kickoff show by the way Shane Baseler won a triple threat. Match with Bailey and Becky Lynch okay. That didn't happen by mistake. Shane Baiser was a huge part of teas dominant run at that survivor series to have ever lose the annex t women's championship a month later I believe has to mean bigger things for Shane Abuser. I believe the Chenab as are will absolutely be in the royal rumble. I would not be at all shocked as he Shayna Baiser win the royal rumble. I do not think I believe that Shane Obeys Ler will be competing for a women's championship at Wrestlemania. I do not think it'll be for the next. He Women's Championship. I think Shane obeys lawyer. will either be competing for the raw women's championship being chip or for the smackdown women championship. When you look at a superstar like Becky Lynch Becky Lynch is in this position now now where she is not an underdog anymore? She is not that scrapper. She has proven her dominance over the entire women's roster she has proven that she is the dominant force in women's pro wrestling in the wwe. She needs these challenges. The reason this royal rumble match with her an Oscar is so compelling is because she hasn't been able to beat Oscar but one would have to believe that Becky Lynch is going to beat Oscar at the royal rumble. Who is left to challenge Becky Lynch you've got two options? Either Ronda Rousey needs to return to the WWe to challenge becky Lynch which is very very possible. And or Shane obeys ler needs to resurface. I I mean you felt the electricity when Shane baseler Mbeki Lynch were nose to nose heading into survivor series. The last time I felt that kind of energy was when it was Ronda Rousey he and Becky Lynch that we're getting ready to compete at survivor series. The year before the match that never happened. We still haven't seen that one on one. Becky Lynch Ronda Rousey match by the way however I think with the Rhonda history as well as now with the history that was leading into survivor series between Becky I am between a Shane. Obeys Ler. Shannon is Poi- position. I'll say to be the next threat to Becky Lynch and to be a credible threat to becky lynch. I think twenty twenty. That's what you're gonNA see and I wouldn't be shocked if in twenty twenty we saw. Shane obeys later. Beat becky Lynch. I would not be shocked if Shayna Baiser were the one to take the women's championship from Becky Lynch Becky Lynch would do well to have a challenger that she cannot defeat. Becky Lynch would do well to have a tree that she just can't climb and I think Shane obeys. There may just be that tree and that's store you could tell it would take six months at least the first six months of two thousand twenty for you to tell that story wrestlemanias until April. Shane obeys livers. Is Becky Lynch. I mean look you could tell a similar story with baileigh shore I could see. Shane obeys winning the smackdown women's championship at Wrestlemainia. But I I really think that chain obeys ler is the challenge. Becky Lynch needs in the raw women's division. And that's why that's why. She's on my annex t less because she is an annex t superstar for star but I believe she will ascend to brand new heights in twenty twenty A second person who I believe will ascend to new heights in twenty twenty. Honey you look at an x t and you look at the roster that they have and you could say Adam Cole is going to continue to write and then go will continue to rise but I think Adam's Coal Anna Nicole's twenty twenty will probably be about consistency. Cincy you know I think Adam Cole's twenty twenty we'll be similar to Roman reigns twenty twenty for example. I think Adam Cole is the Roman reigns of annex t he could go the whole twenty twenty keeping the NFC championship around his waist. Wouldn't shock me. AMCOL is the face of that brand however he's not on my list because I think that that will be more about consistency than it will be about raising to brand new heights. I think he rose to new heights this year because of the rise of annex t which nobody could have predicted because of the move to USA. But I think the guy I'm looking at to be the next guy on the annex t roster to really rise up is Damian priest formerly known on this podcast as Damian me an archer Damian priest I believe will be the superstar to rise. Either to the next T- main event unseen or to show up on raw or smackdown as a big star. I mean if it were me I would seriously reconsider allowing Damian priest to go on a three month four month run in an annex t just beating everybody and then at the raw after Wrestlemainia I would have Alastair Black. Say You you know. Nobody has beaten me nobody. I'm still looking for a fight. Have Alastair Black beat everybody leading up to that and then have Damian. The increased walked down the aisle and say Alastair Black. I'm here to answer your challenge. I think dame priest and Alastair Black together would be money I think if you build Damian priest from now until the Monday after raw as this unstoppable beast in St you're dealing with something really cool. Aw who knows. Maybe you can bill Damian priest to the point that you've got a Damian Priest Adam call annex t championship match at takeover Wrestlemainia weekend. Maybe there's a lot of ways you could do it more than one way to skin a cat as they say. But you know I think you could spend the next however long building up Damian priest in annexed tea and have him show up as a surprise to challenge Alastair Black on raw the Monday after Wrestlemainia. And you're on to something if you do that. I think it could be really really cool. My third pick for Annex T to take over twenty twenty it is going back to the women's division where we started with China baseler. And this pick. I know the first to picture like well. You don't even have them staying at St and Damian Breeze could stay at annex t I mean I think it would blow people's minds if Damian priest were the one you know maybe come summer to finally take the NFC championship off Adam Cole. I think that'd be huge. You go that direction too but I think when you look at the women's division something that really did by winning that title from Shane Baiser was she injected new life into that title. I think that Shayna baseler being so dominant over the women's division really did leave us to the point where you know you'd go into takeover going like yeah it's going to be a great match but of course there's GonNa win. That's why I said it. On a takeover kickoff shows every time I started twenty nineteen by saying what I said about Bianca Belair. Everybody was gas. Believe you said that but it was true. Nobody thought Bianca Bel Air was going to beat Jana baiser. Nobody thought it was going to be Chenab as their nobody. Nobody thought Shayna Baiser was going to get beat by any of these people after she beat tidy saying to start her second run as annex t women's champion. Nobody what he thought anybody was going to beat her rear ripley finally defeating. Shane obeys and winning. That title means Unity for a lot. More women on that roster. You can tell a story with Dakota kyw where she climbs those ranks. Franks Dakota could be the person to be rea- Ripley defeating rea- Ripley is not defeating. Shane obeys to coach is not beating Shayna. Baseler on that roster's beating Chenab Baiser as our separate ripley. I suppose but Dakota this new attitude of hers. Maybe she's the one to be Ripley maybe teague inox and Knox comes back and she pizzeria Ripley May Bianca. Belair has what it takes to beat rea- rippling but to me. I believe that Ria Ripley. Winning that annex T T- women's championship opens the door of opportunity for everybody but especially for my pick in the women's division and to have the greatest rise of twenty twenty and that is e o Shirai. I think that you keep. EEO Shirai away from that Annex Exte- women's championship for a long time and you have e o b e o Evil Yoshahara is just as good as it gets for me. An Annex T television the vision there is no reason in the world. The you can't turn Yoshi Awry into the most credible threat on the annex t roster to the women's Championship there is no reason in the world. Why you can't over the course of several months get to a point you were you present a match that is rear ripley versus Shirai? And you've left us all thinking I don't know of Rio Ripley can be sure I. I think this has to be done after Wrestlemainia mania I think you can start now but I think this has to be done down the line I this might take all the way to summer slim. Keo Shirai away from that women's championship and you have her beat every body to the point where there is nothing you can can do but give her an opportunity at that women's championship and that's when you look at Ripley and you go. If she can beat her. In the meantime maybe you have rea- Ripley just squeaked by Dakota kyw Dakota kyw almost beater maybe guy does beat her and then Ripley wins it back the next week on TV or something like that it just so you can show that Ria Ripley is beatable. re-re please title. Rain should be dominant the way Shane obeys title. Rain was re Ripley's tidal range should be very very vulnerable. Vulnerable Real Ripley's title rain should feel like it could end at any moment. As as amazing as Ria Ripley is we should use this opportunity to show how incredible entire women's roster is and and make it so that when you walk into a takeover special you do not know who. He's walking out with the women's championship. And that's where Chirac can come in and that's where I can continue to have these great performances and that's where he can become the most credible threat to that women's championship. Maybe even win the women's Championship and leave twenty twenty in such a greater position. I mean if Shannon bazars the champion Yoshua is not beating. Shane obeys later. There's only so far. Ao Can grow shame. Basler is not the women's champion champion of annex t anymore the sky has become the limit for Yoshii in my humble and personal opinion. And I think that you could end up in an opportunity where there is no stopping. EEO Shirai so those are my picks for annex t chain obeys Ler Damian priest Yoshahara. Shane baiser icy going to another roster imminently Damian priest could go to raw to challenge Alastair Black could stay on an xt x t to maybe win the next championship over the summer. I I see staying put in an xt and becoming an an extremely dominant threat to Ripley's annex t women's championship as we continue to break down. What twenty twenty could be in? WWe I WANNA remind you guys not Sam. Wrestling is a completely independent. Diy podcast and the. Why is yours truly the last professional broadcaster? 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Finally the crown has been placed on the king's head. Here's who I think. DOC will turn things around in twenty twenty and I say turn things around specifically in talking about my number one pick and this is gonNA shock people because you would think that this superstar is just simply go under remained consistent. But that's not true because twenty one thousand nine hundred in my. My opinion was not a good year for this superstar and based on the changes that we're already seeing. I think twenty twenty will be a much better year. I I think in two thousand twenty. We see the return to the dastardly. He'll ways of one. Seth rollins. I think seth rollins wins is going to go back to being in a place in twenty twenty where we look at him and we go. Wow this guy could be the guy. The main face of the company when Seth rollins cashed in his money in the bank briefcase wrestlemainia thirty one. Yeah Yeah I wrestlemania thirty one. Wrestlemainia push play button and Palo Alto when Seth rollins had his run as WWe Louis champion and he was a bad guy. People looked at him like okay once. This guy is good. He's going to be the biggest star in the company company. Things started to go wrong with rollins after he got injured. You know they put together that package. That video package it wasn't. I guess. It was a whole special that they put on the w network. This documentary of Seth rollins recovering from his injury is like two years ago or more more. Maybe at this point and I thought it was the best thing that I had seen since the triple h video when he was gone with his quad injury when triple h came back from his injury he was the biggest good guy in the company. Anthony when triple H in the early two thousand two thousand one two dozen to whenever it was when triple h came back. I WANNA say two thousand one any announced he was going to be in the royal rumble and he did it at that raw Madison Square Garden. They had sat there and they had advertised. This is triple blazes return. This is triple agents. Return this triple H is return. They waited until the very end of the show. They went to commercial break. They said triple H is back next. His music hit when they got back from commercial break. He came out in his leather jacket with his denim vest over. It didn't wrestle. He didn't do anything except announced he was going to be in the Royal Rumble that year the ovation that triple h got when he came back after that leg injury and it's because of the work they had done and on the on the promo videos it's because of the work they'd done showing triple h is recovery is because the work they had done giving people time time and reason to think about all the good work triple h had done both is a good guy and bad guy in wwe and made it so it was undeniable when triple h came back he he was the biggest good guy in the company and people were ready to cheer for him. I felt the same way about seth rollins and when he came back he came back as a bad guy. I was there when he came back. He was cheered when he did that. Surprise running I think it was in Long Island. He did that surprise running. Everybody lost their minds but he was a bad guy. Even though you've already shown this special in the wwe network about how amazing this guy is. There is no way you could watch that special at that time. And not have seth rollins. Be Your favorite wrestler. Seth rollins was my favorite wrestler after that documentary aired. I said that's my favorite wrestler. The whole world said that when they watch that and he came back and we were expected to boom and it left US befuddled. A left US confused. It left US disappointed. We through our hands in the air are we waging like we just didn't care and muddled everything in model seth rollins eventual. Good Guy. Turn it muddled the whole thing to the point where now. So you're left with a guy who is a good guy but he's giving brock listener a low blow at Wrestlemanias so he can win in the opening match. And you're like this isn't the moment wrestlemainia mania thirty one was the moment resume. Thirty five was not the moment. I think seth rounds is GonNa do work in two thousand twenty that leaves ready for him to finally have the real moment moment. I think Seth Rollins is GonNa do work in twenty twenty. That leaves US remembering why he is our favorite wrestler. Seth rollins is going to return to that. Dastardly Seth rollins is going to make us appreciate appreciate him so much that we have no choice but to sit there and go that guy's the best wrestler ever we just love him and that's when we can start to have the discussion again about maybe he's the guy but I think he's going to have a return turn to that. In Two thousand twenty. I can already see the seeds planted. I love everything. He's doing with authors of pain. I loved the stuff with Kevin Owens. It's it's finally finally working. It's the first stuff that that sat around has done. And that has worked since like before Wrestlemainia. WHO's almost a year ago at this point? You know. I think the stuff he did with. Becky Lynch didn't help matters You know it was just. It didn't work for him this year. I think it's going to work for him. In Two thousand twenty round is my number one pick on raw my number two pick is also has to do with the same storyline but I think there is an appreciation for Samoa. Joe The likes of which we have not felt before Samoa. Joe was only beginning and to kind of flirt with the idea of being a good guy before he got injured and disappeared for a while. Now that he's back. We missed him because he wasn't competing eating. We found out. He's excellent on commentary. Were we we want to cheer him anyway and now. He's giving reason to cheer. I think Samoa Joe as long as he's been wrestling and as long as his career has been I think semo Joe is going to have the best year of his career in two thousand twenty. I think Tim O.. Joe Is going to reach new levels. Also I think that the conversations that we had about Samoa Joe and that I've had on this podcast with Samoa Joe about never. You were not supposed to be this guy you know. We talked to Joe and we go. You weren't supposed to be main roster superstar you are supposed to be on raw. You weren't supposed to be in the scene. You were supposed to be a guy who worked in st but then still worked indies. You weren't supposed to get to keep your name. You weren't supposed to get to keep your look. You weren't supposed posted. This wasn't supposed to happen this way but he came in and he was undeniable from the from the jump which all of us wrestling fans knew from his work in ring of honor from his work working. TNA from everything that you've done before we've been sitting here going. Of course. Mojo should have been here years ago Jodi in sweat it. He came in he was undeniable and things worked out. I think Simone Joe has improved. I think Simone Joe has has has refined find his craft in a way that a lot of people didn't even realize he still could and I think Samoa Joe is going to have the best year of his career in two thousand. Twenty Sim. Oh Joe is going to be looked at as a potential top good guy in wwe. I think by the end of twenty twenty twenty. You'll be looking at Samoa. Joe and Seth Rollins as to people who could potentially be the biggest good guys on rock. That's what I think about Samoa. Joe I think and sit there and you go well you know. What do you mean Samoa Joe? Ever Years Been Samoa Joe's year that's true but it hasn't really. I mean gene. Samoa Joe is that how many title matches. He's lost all of them. He loses all the time he loses constantly. He's just really good at making us believe that he could win. Really really good I think twenty twenty is the year that Samoa Joe starts to win. I think at twenty twenty all of us who believe that he can win. You are going to be proven true. Because I think he's going to start winning a lot of matches in twenty twenty. I think he's going to continue to be undeniable and he's going to raise the level could be a very good year for some. Oh Joe I think Samoa Joe is GonNa have a year in two thousand twenty like. Aj Styles did in. When was it twenty eighteen twenty seventeen whatever was that like super hot year for AJ styles as WWe champion? Aj Style. By by the way just tells US still having amazing years but there was a year when I believe they just house was the number one performer and wwe twenty seventeen or two thousand eighteen. Probably twenty seventeen. I think Samoa Joe could potentially have that year in twenty twenty if some oh joe stays healthy and he stays on course and and I think he will stay on course. I don't think that's a risk. I think you could be looking at Samoa. Joe Having being the top. WWe superstar star by the end of the year and number. Three is another person who you would think would go on my list of guys who are just going to be consistent but for me it goes beyond that number three on my list is somebody who's been in. WWe forever by the way ww front row in the discord room says rounds as a top level performer. But I never clear on how I feel about him to your point muddled is the right word. Exactly we're going to seth. Rollins is in a position. Now where we're going to know exactly how to feel about him. Seth rollins. We want to kind of boost. Seth rollins. Because it's like what are you doing. Dude Seth Ron give us reason to boo. We is leaning into the way. We're kind of feeling about him. And I think that Seth rollins performances focuses are going to make the way we feel feel so connected right. Because that's when you really are onto something something when there's a feeling in you and it feels connected to what you're seeing. Sometimes we feel a certain way about you know superstars and we feel away about them but it doesn't feel connected to what they're doing. There's a disconnect I yeah I feel this way but it's not doesn't really reflect what he's doing. I don't know that's the muddling seth rollins is getting out of the mud and he's good enough. Performance is going to be able to do that. Somali Joe Schmo does always always good at getting us to feel a certain way about him but Samoa Joe has been at a seven for most of his. WWE run between seven and eight. Samoa Joe is going to be a nine nine and ten territory in two thousand twenty in my opinion and somebody else who I believe is going to have another hot. What Year in two thousand twenty? Potentially somebody who I wouldn't necessarily think that I would have feld anyway about somebody who I would think in my head. I'm like okay. I think that they've already had their best years. And now we're just GONNA have this performer around have big matches and maybe put people over. I'm rethinking all of that. I think. Twenty twenty could be a marquee year on raw for Randy Orton. When I saw your and go over to raw? I was confused when I saw Randy Orton. Start to turn into a good guy. I was confused but the seeds that I see being planted and the feeling that I get from Randy Orton. Which is the number one thing? I base these decisions on. How do I feel when I see these performers in an arena or on the television screen? I am more interested in Randy Morton today that I have been in years years. I don't feel like Randy. Orton is just there there too like I felt like for a long time rain. You weren't was being used as almost an in-between guy like what we've got this person and we're not quite ready for him to get the big story that we're counting on but we don't want to start something new. So let's do something with Randy Orton for two months before we hit this really big story and I think that's a position. Randy Orton was in Rainier. Let's between story lines. Let's let's have him do some stuff with Randy. Randy's get them over and it'll be good and that's the way it worked out randy got people over and it was always good because rant and is incredible but I think that twenty honey twenty is the year that we remember to care about Randy Orton. And it's interesting. You look at the guys on raw that I'm calling out and this isn't the case in the other rosters but on raw. I think we're GONNA see. It's going to be a rent a career renaissance for all three guys. Seth Rollins Samoa. Joe and Randy Orton. I think rainy Orton is is actually going to get to a place where we get hungry to see him win the title again. I'm interested in a rancher J style story. I told you that last week I told you that on Thursday stay I'm interested in rain. Yordan versus AJ styles. I KINDA WANNA see Randy Orton win and I kind of want to see him go. Further and further you know oh I wanNA watch the royal rumble and think to myself. How great would it be of Randy Orton? One of Randy. Orton won the royal rumble and went onto wrestlemainia to face brock listener. All of a sudden I have faith that a story could be told that I'd be interested in that match and if he asked me that last year the year before I would tell you know that would be terrible if if it happened. I'm sure the match would be decent but it doesn't feel fresh. It just just didn't feel fresh now. I feel like you can get something fresh. There's something about Randy Orton right now. That feels fresh fields rejuvenated. And maybe it's because he's a good guy and he's been a bad guy for all this time time. I believe in Randy Orton and I think the twenty twenty is going to be one of those years for him. The people talk about for a while I. I have complete and utter faith in that man. Randy Orton going into this year. I think it's GonNa be really really good for and I. I think he's going to pull some stuff out that we haven't seen before you know I. I love the angle that they did on raw last week. It was so perfect because in encapsulated the character. That Randy Orton has been building for the last it all these years that the viper the fact that he pretended to be injured and then busted at Arco out of nowhere. That's the Randy Orton that we've all gotten to know. Except he's e- The character has been tweet and the story shifted so that it makes sense. That Randy Orton is a good guy. It made sense. It felt logical if felt like randy. Orton had a reason for being a motivation. And I had a reason to cheer Randy Orton. I think. Twenty twenty it's GonNa be a big year for Randy Orton. I I really really do. Bigger than the last however many years form I think it could be. I think it could be major rainy. Orton could have a better twenty twenty drew MacIntyre but I mean. I adore the idea of a randy. Orton drew McIntyre rivalry at some point this year. You put a nice story behind that and and I think you're off to the races. I think could be really great. All right we got one more or less to go down. And that's smackdown now look Roman already talked about. I think Romans going to have another incredible year every year. That Roman has is incredible. I think it's easy. Just say the uses are going to be standouts in twenty twenty but that's because we're excited about them they literally just came back on Friday and you know it's hard to believe at this stage career that they wouldn't have a great year. USOZ are incredible. But I don't I don't know that he's going to be any better than some of their other years Daniel. Bryan's going to have a really good year but I think he had a really good year this year. I don't know that twenty twenty is going to be that much better than two thousand nineteen. I think he's going to continue to be one of the top stars on smackdown. I think the fiend is going to continue to be one of the top stars on. smackdown is a big factor. I think the MS had a very very bad twenty nineteen and he could turn around in two thousand twenty or he could continue to coast. We'll see remains to be seen. I'm glad that he the bad guy again. I'm glad he had a bit of A. He'll turn on smackdown but we'll see we'll see how it plays out but my picks are not based on what happened this week or last week. Whatever my picks are overall feelings and the way people could grow into this decade? I mean into this year my number one pick for smackdown. Somebody who I think could have a very strong. He'll title rain. Somebody who hasn't in all their time on either raw or smackdown hasn't had that definitive definitive. He'll title run. That I think could run the roster if she was given the opportunity to have it is Sasha banks. I Sasha banks as women's champion of smackdown on to me. Sasha banks is the number one woman on smackdown. Sorry Bailey I think. Sasha banks is number one on smackdown right now I think and she added a tremendous return tremendously impactful return to wwe over the summer I think the story of her being gone one is a great story when we talk about the stories of Twenty Nineteen I think the fact that she came back is a bad guy and has this ego about her only adds the legend of the fact that she was gone and why she was gone And and I. I think that Sasha banks needs to have that title honor you know. Honestly I wouldn't mind I should banks doubled turning on Bailey. I think of if Bailey were a good guy with attitude it would still be fine. I think you could now. The you've had barely turn. He'll change the hair change. The attitude got rid of the whacky warblers. I think you could turn Bailey into a good guy and have her not be a hugger. Don't bring back any of the old stuff. Just be this Bailey with attitude but ever be a good guy. I think it would be the best thing for her. Quite frankly and I think if you had Sasha banks turn on her and then take the title from her. I think he got money man. I think Sasha banks is a natural. He'll that original boss character in Annex T. It's just one of my favorite characters actors of all time. I mean you guys remember if you guys been listening to the podcast long enough years ago. I couldn't stop talking about how Great Sasha banks was on and I I think that a two thousand twenty revamped version of that character the boss the bad guy. He'll is exactly what the doctor ordered for Sasha banks. I think her taking that women's championship hostage and not letting go of it holding the entire division hostage because nobody can get that women's championship off of her. She's running around telling everybody she's the boss and nobody can prove a wrong because they can't get the title off of her to save their lives. I think it'd be money you know. I think she's she's she's got the potential to be one of the strongest if not the strongest villainous women in in the industry you know I think probably. Shane obeys lower. A little more. So but a different type of villain I think Shayna bazars more of a a monstrous undefeatable villain and Sasha banks is more that chicken villain you know what I mean more that personality based villain whereas Shayna baseler is more brock listener. Type Villain you'd Seth Rollins type villains. You've got brock listener type villain. YOU HAVE SASHA BANKS TYPE VILLAINS SHAYNA BAISER TYPE VILLAINS and I'm ready to see Sasha banks really go into that she cannot be the top bad guy wrestler women's wrestler on smackdown Orrin. WWe until she's she's got that blue title around her waist and she's going to win the title this year and I think she's going to do it as a bad guy and I think she's going to. I hope she brings a reign of terror. Down on smackdown. I think could be really great. Somebody else who I think should be a bad guy I think. And this is a caveat here. I think if this person goes to the dark side if this person turns he'll and really a bad guy really i. He'll he'll I think this person could be really really successful. I think they desperately need it and I don't think they're ever going going to go higher than they are right now. As long as they're a good guy and that person is Ali I have been waiting since Kofi. Kingston took Ali's spot in that elimination chamber match to Ali to finally for him to finally get fed up. You know Kofi had this the dream come true run and Ali got nothing nothing and the opportunities that he has gotten since then haven't panned out. Ali has every every reason in the world to be bitter. And that's the Ali that I wanNA see. I WANNA see Ali upset about the cards that we're dealt to him. I WANNA see Ali. Just get fed up with it. I don't WanNa be the light for anybody. I want to see Ali because when you are trying to help everybody there's certain tweaks that you can make and everybody's dealt with this in their realize you've got people that are are nice as people and they're always there for you but there's this personality type of a person who is quote unquote always there for you but it's really easy for them to become condescending. It's really easy for them to sound like they're are. They think they're better than you. You know what I mean. There's a such a fine line and you've all dealt with it I've dealt with it when you've got somebody that's there to help you Out Let me show you how to do this on on worry. I got your back on this and when you don't really need help man I don't mean I got this sorry I didn't know. Oh excuse me. It's very easy to take that personality type and turn it into something the thing that is unlikable and condescending. You don't have to do much to Ali onto turn into this dastardly villainous person all you have to do do is push those traits on Ali. Those traits that Ali is now the light right. Anybody that says I'm the light and I want to bring you guys into the light. I WanNa be the light for you. Guys is one step away from being the guy who's like I don't worry I'll be your light and you being the guy going. I don't need a like I already have. I M my own light. Nobody asks for your health. Will you know what you do need me. I'm better than you. Ali is is as a character is two steps away from coming across like he thinks he's better than people so why not lean into that. He clearly needs a refresher on things. You know what I mean. He's he's he's not aw. People are for lack of a better term. A little bit used to him. He's not surprising people. He's not this guy like oh you can. The only have potential for so long before you have to execute on that potential. Eventually potential goes unrealized and Ali is in that territory. Now where it's like. Yeah I mean he's got all these traits but he hasn't gone to the next level. He's exactly he's been stagnant for a year so clearly we need to make a change and I think the change that we need to make is to have volley come out and to come across like he thinks he's better than everybody Ali coming across like. He thinks he's better than people. I think he could easily do it. And I think he become a bad guy pretty quick and having him do terrible things. But I'm doing this for you. Don't you understand. I'm doing this for you. Why you mad at me? I'm helping you. Don't you understand you've got to learn this lesson somehow. I'm here to teach it to you really now. You're my teacher I you know I just. I think that that's what I see rally. And if he goes there in two thousand twenty it could be a great year for him. I think he could be one of the top bad guys on smackdown. But that's the attitude that he's got a half that grading attitude my third pick for my people who should own. WWe Twenty twenty on smackdown. Is Somebody look my fantasy. For the Royal Rumble is to have covy Kingston win the royal rumble and go onto wrestlemainia to compete compete against brock listener. I think the fact that Kofi Kingston's dream come true post wrestlemainia season the fact that it has gone and sort of by the wayside like yeah. I guess that happened anyway. Moving on is a tragedy and I think that the royal rumble and Wrestlemainia is where we can make good on it. You know what I mean. We haven't even there hasn't even been a conversation about the idea that Kofi Kingston should get either a rematch against brock listener or a title match against the fiend. He's just back to being in tag team matches with the new day. So I'd like to see Kofi Kingston have another rise. But he's not the guy who's on my list. My number three pick for smackdown is somebody who I think is due and is do not quite as much as Kofi was in two thousand nineteen but not that far off either. I think twenty twenty could be the year of Biggie Langston. I think big he could have himself a year in two thousand twenty. I think twenty twenty is the time when biggie needs to stand out as a single star in annex. T twenty twenty. Is the time where we have to put all the pieces together while we not only realized that big is very entertaining. But that he's stronger than just about anybody on the roster they can destroy just about anybody on the roster I think twenty twenty is the year that we need to remember that. He's a big man that's capable of tremendous incredible things. Not just gyrating not just doing splits and maybe it means changing the gear a little bit. Maybe it means a lot of things but I think twenty twenty twenty year that we start to realize biggies potential because we simply haven't gotten there yet doesn't mean breaking up the new day. I don't think that he needs to necessarily Zarrella turn heel and turn on the new day. Bob But I think that Kofi Kingston got to be the breakout star of the new day in Twenty nineteen and I still. I believe that Kofi Kingston should be maintained at that level. But I also think biggie links to big e Langston. I think biggie needs to have a twenty twenty twenty where he gets to be the breakout of the new day where we get to be reminded. That biggie is quite the draw in and of itself. I think I think twenty twenty should be the year of biggie among other things so there you have it those are my lists. It's my nine people who I think should own twenty thousand for the wwe are. Shane Obeys Ler Dame priest. EEO Shirai Seth Rollins and Samoa. Joe Randy Orton. Sasha Banks Ali and Biggie and if wwe could have they're picking anybody to join that roster. I'm going with Takahashi from New Japan. Mardi girl the villain and killer cross Mari Scarlett I believe is not signed yet yet and killer cross. I believe his unsigned at the moment. So there you have it. That's where I want see hope two thousand twenty is going. I'm going to get to your emails next week. Not next week. Thursday nights and Thursday. I will get to your emails so email him in not Sam Sam wrestling at gmail.com. Make sure you're checking the youtube channel. 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Monday Night RAW Recap: Baszler Bites Becky

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Monday Night RAW Recap: Baszler Bites Becky

"If you don't know Sirius. XM THAN LISTEN UP Commercial Free Music Plus sports comedy talk and news. They have it all and right now you can get your first three months of Sirius. Xm outside the car for just US one dollar go to SIRIUSXM DOT com slash to see offer details and to subscribe offer available to new series. Xm streaming subscribers SIRIUSXM. No car required. This is the busted open podcast. You can listen to the full show Monday through Saturday from nine. AM to noon eastern on Sirius. Sex Him Channel One fifty six welcome to the busted open podcast. This is Dave Greco. Today's episode wwe. Hall of Famer. Bully Ray and I talk about Monday night raw from last night and especially that segment that everyone is talking about the one in between Chenab as ler and becky lynch the Shayna really have to take a bite out of Becky Lynch and did it need all that blood. And what did it really mean for. Shane obeys are also get into Becky Lynch as well. And what does Becky Lynch now mean to the. WWE Universe after Wrestlemainia thirty five and more importantly what does the WWe universe mean to Becky Lynch and we also get into the most deadly weapon in all pro wrestling the pencil. We do all right now. On the busted open podcasts. We had our thoughts yesterday about what we saw Friday on smackdown on Fox and how there really isn't a lot coming out of a smackdown completely different good or bad when it comes to Monday night raw so let me ask you believe what did you think of the overall show last night. the overall show to me. I I didn't particularly think last night show had a flow or maybe it was just me. Maybe it was just the way I was taking in the show. There are aspects of the show that I liked and aspects that really left me scratching my head and as I said jokey leader started off the show Shayna baiser biting becky Lynch on the back of the neck drawing blood like I didn't get it as a fan like if I sat when I sat there and I really thought about it. I'm like okay. They probably think Shane is just too plain. As a you know former fighter who's just going to beat at the Shit Outta Becky. We need something more. So let's have her biter on the back of the neck satellite shocking. That'll keep people on the station Blah Blah Blah. I understand why they do it but as a fan I just don't think I was into it because much like Rhonda. Shana is a credible bad ass. And all I need to do first first of all seeing Shayna Nail Becky in the back of the head was good. She puts her down and then seeing. Shane amount becky and just start laying haymakers makers into her head man. That's all I really need. Because that's what Shane Baseler is known for. And then we get the bite. and and like I said Dave. I wasn't quite sure how I felt about it. I know I didn't really like it. I don't think I hated it because it's a very sports. Entertainment Taint thing to do. She writes she kind of reminded. Me of Freddie Blassie. Remember Freddie used to bite everybody back in so Yeah I never thought thought I'd be comparing. Shane obeys to Freddie Blassie. Very happy but you know you. Freddie Blassie was like the biggest heel of that time and and that's one of those. He'll cheating tactics tactics that he used when it comes to. Shane obeys lawyer. I kind of looked at her a different way. First of all when you do something like what we saw in. And it's so funny funny before raw last night. I was watching Youtube. I was watching old. Kevin Sullivan Dusty Rhodes matches from Championship wrestling from Florida Larva. And you know Kevin Sullivan was the anti dusty roads and you know the golden spike and everything else. But they had a long drawn out. Blood lead feud between those two and as the feud went on between dusty and Kevin Sullivan. It got worse and worse. What Kevin Sullivan would do to St Roads and again you knew? The dusty Rhodes character the ultimate baby face. And you knew Kevin Sullivan's character is you know that satanic just Absolute dark he'll. He'll shane obeys our Shayna. Baseler again is somebody who's on an xt. I know we've seen her a little bit on the main roster especially around survivor series. But but you would agree bully. There is no feud right now between Shane obeys ler and Becky Lynch so the people watching that show they really don't know unless you're a die. Hard and exte- watcher. Let's put an X.. T. Aside for just a second. If you're somebody who just watches Roy. You really don't know who shane obeys. Lawyer is if you watch an xt on a weekly basis you do know who shane obeys. Shane Baiser as this. You know complete bad ask that is beaten everybody with that credible MMA background. I don't understand why they use. Shane obeys of the way they did last last night by having her bite. Becky in the neck that's also. WWe's Fort Jenner tape. It really is. They probably looked at her Chris to Vanilla or two plane with just beating somebody up probably too similar to Rhonda. They probably WanNa do something shocking and there there you go. That was shocking last night. Listen I guess it was shocking enough for us to start off the show about it. We didn't know we were going to start off the show. 'cause we never know could actually talk about until we start talking. Yeah A- and so it shocked us. I mean I don't know. I think a lot of people were shocked about. I mean I'm GonNa go right to the twitter machine really quick because this this tweet just popped me. This comes in from Tampa Bay Viper he goes. Don't forget Dave and bully becky also stolen ambulance. went to a medical facility. Ability was able to steal the ambulance again and was driving under the influence of drugs. Yeah I mean listen. There's there's a lot that we're GONNA get into today. And obviously you know Becky Lynch is usually over the last year a big topic here on busted open both good and bad and she deserves to be and we're going to get into some comments made recently about herself and how she should be perceive when it comes to the wwe but you know when you're you know one of the biggest stars ars in your arguably the most popular star in the wwe then. Obviously you're going to be a big topic on a show like ours so we're GONNA get a lot until becky aspect of things because again when it comes to becky. I don't know if it's good or bad or if it's too similar to like what we've seen from stone cold old. Steve Austin I mean. It's there's a lot and we'll get into becky in just a bit. Bullets concentrate on. Shane Obeys Ller. I think it would have been so much better. Header in my opinion bully if Shayna Baiser after that twenty minute match with Oscar which was a great match to just lay out. Becky Lynch H.. Hey becky Lynn. There's Becky Lynn. Says went through a grueling. Twenty minute match with Oscar. And she was probably you know and she was. She was blindsided by Becky. Lynn Chu who is A. I mean blindsided by Shane Baiser. Who's a credible athlete? I would've loved to just seen. Shane obeys lower. Lay Out Becky Lynch and of segment event. I wonder what's going to happen. I think that would have been a much better end to what we saw. Instead of what we got last night I agree with you. I would have liked Less is more. Keep it simple and play to. Shane is strength. And I almost would have liked to seen at the end of the segment. Shayna a standing over becky and you could have got one line out of her where you know. She could've told Becky you were expecting Rhonda. You got much worse You Got Shayna and then you know your off to the races. The biting things it takes me out of it was I shocked yet was shocked in a good way. I'm really not sure. Because in order to get that much blood out of a human being by biting them you got to really sink your teeth down into that neck. So if that's the way they want to go I need to see the back of Becky's next week or during the week. I need to see stitches in her neck. I need to see bite marks folks. I need to see blood and poss- all back disgusting stuff that comes with a one human being biting another human being well and again again like now. It's making me wonder what kind of character they're gonNA present with Chenab as ler because I would. This is something that we've never seen from. Shane obeys there and again. If you're you're gonNa go this route. This is something that you probably should have done while the two are feuding that there's that much in person where she's going to bite somebody in the neck like that you know whether it's out of frustration or just anger but there's not enough of a story between those two where you get the outcome like he did last night and on top top of it. You would think that getting a big Gash on the back of your neck like the one that Shayna baiser delivered Tabacchi especially by biting her. You would have gotten a lot more out of than what we got. This kind of reminded me a little bit of the conversations that we had about the green missed from Oscar. You know like where Charlotte and page were almost more annoyed by the green missed and actually selling the fact that there's this acid poison. It just went into there is. It's the same thing with Jana Basil last night. Becky seem more annoyed. That like I think she actually mouthed said it got beeped out. It's like did that pitch this bite me like it was almost like what the hell was that and then they're trying to look at it and she's like I'm fine. I'm finding. She beats up the ambulance corps which one by the way wanted to people that are was just wanted. The ambulance was extremely high. I don't know what it was. But she was. Anyway I digress. Then she she beats up. Everybody jumps into the ambulance. Ambulance drives herself. Hospital gets herself. You know I guess. Because she's Becky. Lynn says they have to wait in the Er like most people do drives get herself. Stitched up comes back and then like less than an hour later. She's in the ring you know calling out. Shane obeys lower. Like let's go like it's almost like that had absolutely no impact to Becky Lynch. What the hell you got a problem with Dave? I did that twenty years ago and it worked like a charm. I gotta ask what went to the hospital beat up the ambulance the Er the doctor the medic. The Guy who swabs the deck took the ambulance drove back to Ron whooped. Everybody's ass this is you know. This is We had stone cold. Steve Austin in studio and stone cold said Becky does is it needs to be me. She just needs to be her but man some of the things they're presenting on Monday night raw are very reminiscent of what we saw from stone. Cold Steve Austin twenty years ago and I can if I was a fly on the wall. I wish I was a fly on the wall but I can probably tell you when they were discussing this whole Shane thing mm-hmm they probably said we need something. We need something different. We need something shocking. We need to do something that is going to have people talking. She can't just beat up becky. That's that's passe. That's old actually. It works perfectly for for Shea Nut. Because that's what Shayna is known for to me. The last person that needed anything with Shayna because she's such a credible bad ass. She just looked she is not that I mean she looks at she accident she walks. She talks it uh-huh but in the world to the wwe if you're just a wrestler or if you're just a fighter they're probably gonNA look to tinker with you and and give you something thing we are talking about it whether people liked it or not. I'm not sure and that's why I sat down that tweet this morning. Did you like it to you love to hate it. You like get the hell out of here I you know. I don't WanNa see this any more and I'm genuinely interested in hearing what the nation has to say this morning and you know what. I'm not even saying that it's bad it wasn't for me. I rather I've seen seen an ASP meaning because we know who you know. Shane obeys lawyer is but if you're going to go the route of her biting her in the back of the neck if you're going to go back that route that something like you said is shocking. Oh my God wow then have at least becky off TV. I Dunno for the rest of this show. Michelle returned the same show ready for a fight like so. The shock factor is gone before Roy even signed off last night. Bully if if you get bit by another human being. Don't you need to get a significant amount of shots. You can't I mean I would think you gotta get checked by a doctor you you you know. You're probably a WHO knows what Kinda shot you're gonna get but for for a cut that deep that Shane obey slurs face was full of blood. I would think that it'd be more than just a couple the stitches in your right back to Monday night raw before the show signs off. Maybe when Becky got to er she was like it's just a flesh wound. I'll be fine. I don't know like with that much blood to me. It's going to be about the follow up. I'll tell you what I'll even put my own personal feelings on the side. I'm going to say I love the last night. It was awesome. They did the right thing with Shayna. It was perfect. I I absolutely am so into this story all right now now show me this week. Show me the bite marks. Show me the stitches. Show me the follow up. Show me the rabies. Be Shots show me what. Show Me Becky on the mend. 'cause I WANNA I wanna see I wanna see the repercussions of this bite. I need to see Shayna. Uh Teeth marks in the back of Becky's net and again even if you do after the way she came back last night. I don't know if it's going to have that much significance against the one thing that I was wondering when that show signed off and again overall I thought it was a good Monday night. Raw last night is that was that segment more about about Shayna or more about becky was that more about getting Shayna over with a different type of crowd and saying that this is a legit bad as you. You want to see in the ring with Becky Lynch. Is this more about becky lynch and saying hey you know what this is just another victim just another obstacle in her way because to me. They should have presented. Shane obeys. Learn away where she came out looking like gold. Because you need to have a credible opponent for becky lynch and with the biting now that you've went there it feels like you have to go there again right well. I don't know how you top it. I don't know you know where you can go now if you just shut off your big shot right off the bat last night. What I'm saying is the next time we see Shayna baiser? We're going to expect her to bite someone or bite right becky lynch again. Yeah probably and I don't want that I don't want that from. Shane Abuser. Because bully you and I talk about we love realism and pro wrestling. Obviously something like this to me is not realistic. Maybe somebody could present it in a way that it is but one thing we do know is that Shane obeys. Lawyer is a credible athlete. I think the wwe w. e. needs more credible athletes in that ilk Allah obrock listener Allah Iran rousing. I think Shane Obeys Ler. Is Probably Bley presented at least presented on annex better than Brock Enron. In the way that you know she's not the mainstream star like Ronda. Rousey where people are going to have to perception option at everything's handed to her and she's not brock listener where you don't see him each and every week you know we know there's more to. Shane obeys or than what those is to could present on a weekly basis. I'm not saying that Sheena bazars onboard credible athlete or a bigger star. But you know what I'm saying as far as like a lot bitching and moaning that you get from a lot of the WWe universe you're not gonna get with Gina Baiser. I think that's Kinda thrown out the window after what you saw last night in my opinion one of the things that I'm extremely willing to do is give them. The benefit of the doubt just gave them the benefit of the doubt the first night after the firefly funhouse house. We weren't quite sure what to think. And it's all about the follow up. So let's see what they do with Shayna and becky moving forward and let's see if this biting thing makes any more sense and if it actually has legs if not it was just a shocking moment to get us to talk about it and we've just spent eighteen minutes talking talking about it so I guess in a way mission accomplished by the wwe. You're hearing catch busted open. Live Monday through Saturday from nine. Am To noon eastern eastern on Sirius Xm Fight Nation Channel One fifty six or on demand with series. XM APP. We were just talking in the break. And you're in you were saying and about how they're presenting Becky as a superwoman correct. Yes well last week. Didn't Becky tell us that she she had like superpowers. She did like she can see she has is in the back of her head and she can see her. I guess that's superpower superpower had an expiration date of one week because she didn't have is in the back of her head last night no Shayna bazars able to get into that ring and attacker though. I think I think most people after getting that by would be dazed for quite some time. You heard her scream but by the time she got to the ring apron she was telling all the you know all the ambulance personnel. And all the mets back off she was fine. I'm okay there's you know get off me and then you know poor people that are actually trying to help her endure do their the job getting her into the ambulance and getting her to safety. She beat the shit out of And then stole the ambulance. which is you know I guess would be a crime and then you know driving out to the ambulance by yourself? Getting a little as she said getting a little Novacaine and getting stitches and driving under influence lintz of whatever they gave her at the hospital. She came back to Monday night raw but either way she's fine which is good. It's good to see that Becky is fine. Becky took a handful. Oh perks a shot. At Jackson made it back in time for for the show. You know they can use this they can use. This is in the back of my head thing for Shane of Promo. I mean Shayna could look becky dead in the eye and I guess your superpowers don't mean Shit in the eyes in the back of your head must be blind because I blast right in the back of the head and I bet you right in the back of the neck and there wasn't a damn nothing you can do about it so they could bring that forward. Also what do you know what I what I pop for. You mentioned the one. EMT last night you said the hot emt. Tom Right how about one. Becky jumped in the ambulance the EMT actually hit the back of the ambulance like they do in real life. Let them know. It's okay to drive away. I'm like why are you letting her know it's okay to steal the ambulance silence. I mean I know. I know I'm having some fun with them. But that just popped me. It's like okay. You're going to steal the ambulance Dicko Girls. It don't don't stop at Any red light on the way to the hospital. They did do that. It's like the back door shut it. Go ahead you're clear to go. It's little things like that. You know if you were to shove down one. EMT The other emt jump in and speed off like you're actually stealing vehicle. Okay I'll buy into it to campaign can't be anybody around. They're hitting the back of the ambulance. Doan okay you're good to go girl. Good luck best. Luck in your future endeavors. We'll see by the end of the show. Yeah it didn't take Jake long because I guess it was. How long was she gone for about forty five minutes to an hour less than an hour that the whole thing took place so again? If you're getting Shayna Basil and you want the Baseler to make an impact. And maybe that was their way of having Shayna baiser make an impact by biting Becky Lynn's and drawing blood and seeing that visual of the blood around Shane obeys was mouth. Because we do know when it comes to. Shane obeys ler bully she always has that mouthpiece. It's in her mouth at all times. Whenever she's fighting you know she's always got that mouthpiece in there to see her spit that out and take a bite that so unchain obeys law Reich and maybe maybe this is what we talk about and maybe I'm jumping ahead so please stop me if you think I'm jumping ahead but stop? These are some of the concerns that we get when it comes to certain people that are on an xt and then going to the main roster that they have have those changes in character now. I'm not saying this is a change in character but this is obviously something that the old chain obeys that we knew and have seen for a long sometime. Annex t would never ever do Annex T. Shane obeys ler would always just kick. Somebody's ass no apologies. Had that credible Emma background and she was a champion for a long long time. I again I don't know if this is a character change but these are some of the things is that we talk about bully when it comes to when you're on annex stay and they need to do a little something whether it's a little dressing or just a little like a little change change in personality to make you more sports entertainment on raw than the pro wrestling show of annex t if it was a one shot what deal one time deal where they were going for shock factor where change is trying to get back attention all right. I can deal with it but if she comes on. TV next week and goes that that if she goes that eighties route of Shane base or an I need to taste blood taste. Then I'm not. I'm sorry I can't buy why in you know because you're not going to run around biting people. Y What happened between the last time we saw. Shane obeys and now that all of a sudden she's got a blood fetish. And why Becky does she have a taste for Irish blood so so the only thing that would be acceptable for you. who was that? She just did this last night. To like shock everybody and grab everyone's attention yes and now I would not go back to the bite at all if it was me and then I would only bring the bite back around when it meant something so almost like forget about the bite is is if it shocked everybody now. We're going to shock people by forgetting about it and then when the time is right we go back to it and honestly if you think about it you could make the exclusive not going back to it because becky's already recovered from it. It's not like we're waiting next week to To find out if Becky is okay after that bite from Becky Lynn's we know she's okay. She came back she called out. Shane obeys later on the same show. When it occurred? So you could do that bully. You could easily move off of it and go forward in another direction. I said I just WanNa see a visual. Follow follow up if she was bitten that bad in the back of the neck someplace this week on dot com or or on on twitter someplace on social media. Show show me the bite marks. Show me the bloody black and blue because if you bite somebody that hard. There's going to be significant bruising significant black and blue there's obviously a puncture wound there because she was bleeding. See when you take something like this and you go so far with it. I don't don't have a problem with it as long as you follow it up and make it credible so if you follow it up and you make a credible I'm totally on board and I'm saying to myself. Wow that that's shameless bat. Shit crazy she. She bit a hole into Becky. Lynch's net and see this is where and this is where I get upset because you're right no matter what I mean Shayna bazars bat shit crazy for what she did last night. I mean there's no animosity there's no longtime there's frustration and anger like even even if she did this just to shock people and get people talking. She's bat shit crazy. 'cause she just be another human being in the back of the net to draw enough blood that her face was covered with it. So she's batch crazy I don't want bat shit crazy. Jane Obeys Ller. I want the credible bad ass from annexed T. That's what I want. That's the person I WANNA see. Go up against Becky Lynch. That's what I want to see at Wrestlemainia. Not A bat. Shit crazy person. That's biting people so in the neck I listen I understand your point of view To me like I said it's about the follow up. Remember when the inner circle broke dustin arm. Yeah how long did dusted wear a cast for for sold it for weeks and weeks. That was the follow up. Remember when in Jericho stuck the spike in Moxley Gee. I wonder where that idea came from but remember morning did it. Yup He Hawksley. He's still he's selling it a new Japan over the week and he's still selling that I and that's because that's the story that's leading to a pay per view where getting a follow up on on injuries so you don't just think something happened one week and then they forget about the next week if memory serves me correct did an angel. Garza is DDT Burrow on the concrete last week yesterday and actually showed the replay. Where you know? thea pulled up up all of the the the the protective outside the ring pulled it away. said he was able to do that on the concrete. Yes and did we see Umberto last last night. Yes we did. I'm sorry but if you D on the concrete I should not see you the next week. At least that's the world pro wrestling. I come from but again we we saw becky on the same show so there she is whether it's medics around there to try to get into an ambulance weather. She wanted to or not. She's fighting people. She came back on the same show. So you're not selling anything and here's why I know they're not going to sell a bully because of where the bike took place to buy took place on the back of the neck. So becky's hair is going to be covering that wound. So it's not like she's GonNa come out and she's got a big black and blue on the side or anything like that. It was the back of the neck declares going to cover it. You're never gonna see those wounds that you're talking about. I understand what you're saying but do you understand what I'm saying. I believe people we need to see it if you see it afterwards if then gives the bite credibility now the bite means something and Dave. If if that if you were to really sink your teeth into the back of somebody's neck draw blood puncture their skin and make them bleed. Do you know how long it would take for that wound to properly. He'll go away. I don't how long a long time that would cause major ager scarring the black and blue. That would go on with last for a while so I understand what you're saying about the hair being down thus we never need to see what I'm saying is if you want me to believe it and make it really credible I wanna see it. Flip your hair up in two weeks and show me the black and blue in the scarring at at the very least at the very least Dave next week. She should have the gauze over the back of their neck and the back of her neck entirely highly taped up. If there's no ause there and if there's no tape there you're telling me you're leaving expounded exposed puncture wound open to get infected. Make a corona virus boiling over from China and dive into one of those holes Sirius. XM fight nation celebrates history month every day two PM Eastern on the Aachen Barack show oh the show reflects on the life and legacy of different influential African American athletes such icons as Mohammed Ali. Toby Bryant always be my heart. I love you guys. 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She's really kind of generated a lot of what we saw pulley in the attitude era and I know that that stone cold said she needs to be becky lynch and not like stone cold and I know a lot of people compared becky Lynn Stone. Cold Steve Austin. And whether you saw her like that or not. I think you can really compare a lot of what we're seeing from. Becky Lynn's now to Stone Cold Steve Austin Eighteen nineteen twenty years ago. I've been saying it from day. One I mean she's the she's the female version of Austin and then everybody wanted to chime. Go No you're wrong. She's really Conor McGregor. Now we got the night night last phone call caller saying oh no it's more of the Rock. I actually see a little bit of everything thrown in but what I've seen the most of is stone cold. Okay so yes she won the rock bottom okay. She's calling people dopes as opposed to rocky Cole and everybody brownies stealing the ambulance and coming back doc. Very Steve Ask. The way she talks about people reminds me of Connor. These are all mega stars. So you can borrow a little from this one a little from this one and a little from this one you know. That's a good thing when it comes to Becky. There are times where I absolutely love Becky. And what she's saying. And then sometimes it's not necessarily cringe-worthy because I think that's wrong it just I'm just like oh no. The only only person that should be producing becky lynch in the WWE is Paul. Heyman and of story. Paul understands becky better than anybody else in that company and how to make and bring out the best in a character like becky if they would just leave her alone to him. I can tell when his fingerprints are on and when his fingerprints are off of Becky Lynch and I think when you talk about Paul Heyman your days. I can't think of anybody else I would want near. Becky Lynch creatively then Paul Heyman. Do you really think that Paul Heyman told Becky Lynch to say I have superpowers. And I have is in the back of my head. No now and if he did Paul call me so I can chew your ass out. Yeah and this is where and I love Becky Lynch. Everybody thinks I'm not becky Lynch fan based on some of the things is that we talk about here but I always liked by baby faces to be relatable stone. Cold was relatable because everybody hated their boss and he was given giving the middle finger to the boss. Everybody wanted to do that. Becky Lynch right now for me is not relatable now. I know with a lot of female. Well a lot of women. This is somebody that they look up to. Because she's ultra-confident she doesn't take shit she's dominating she's she's taken what she wants. She's taking what she deserves. But as a character and a personality to me when there's no sympathetic figure in her and also you couple that with the fact that that she doesn't really give a shit about anybody but herself it's hard for me to relate to somebody like that. Am I off base here. Am I wrong. Because I'm I'm willing to listen if I am. How could you be wrong? When you're using the number one word that I always use when it comes to successful pro wrestling characters relate relatable relate ability if you can relate to something you're going to be able to sink your teeth into it? Take any storyline that you ever were able to invest into it. It becomes relatable a love triangle. We listen why are we enjoying Otis and Mandy so much everybody has had a woman Um and they they loved and they didn't think that they measured up and they doubted themselves and didn't have confidence enough. Everybody's been in that position and if you haven't having been in that position you at least know somebody that's been in that possess yes so when we got stories like that that relatable it's easy to get into so right now you find yourself in a situation where you were on the Becky bandwagon back in the day but now not so much. Because she's not relatable anymore right. Yeah and people are GonNa kill me on this which is fine fine but I'm just I'm just they kill me about my power rankings. To the point that people want to be fired yesterday. Because I had cody at number one. But I digress that we have people so stirred third up yesterday. They they weren't deleting their twitter accounts. Yes amazing amazing. I guess so. I guess we're doing something right but a wrong. However you want to relate to but this reminds me a little bit of Hogan back in the day one one of the things I didn't like about Hogan his reign as WWF? Champion is that he beat everybody and nobody could come close to to him. He was the champion for a long time and it became unrelatable. He didn't become that guy that was like. Hey your vitamin say your prayers. Let's be this guy. Am I even talking about the goody Eddie goody two shoes that a lot of people said that he was it. Was that the point. That Hogan to me wasn't relatable anymore because at first it was like all right. He's doing doing it for the fans he's doing it for these ohka maniacs. That's what he would always say right. You know he wanted to beat the iron sheik because he was doing his Oga maniacs. You know he wanted to be you know King Kong Bundy and destroy that whole Heenan family because they were evil and he was doing his for his OCA- maniacs. I mean Becky Lynch isn't doing it for anybody ourself like I don't really talk about you know I. I don't really hear her talking about her fans and that she's doing it for her fans she's doing it just just for herself. Which is fine? I'm not begrudging that at all but that's where you kind of lose that emotional element if hey if I'm not not included in this because hey we are in this together you know we were the ones that were cheering for you. When you weren't getting those opportunities? We were the ones that you you know turned our backs on Charlotte flair. Because you said hey she was the chosen one and she was you know ric flair's daughter so she was getting the opportunities that she we didn't deserve that. I deserve we were with you during that period. You know we were with you. And we were the ones that were killing bullying La- Greco whenever saying that. Hey you tapped out to Oscar and you you force your way into the rumbold and maybe it wasn't a three count against Ron drowsy. In that main event we were behind you. We stood next to you and we said No. She's the one she's the one that we love. But who does becky love because judging from the character and personality I see on DVD each and every week. She's in love anyone but herself. She's not relating to the people as she wants did it. Now it's more about her than about us. I wouldn't you say day. I would say and again if anyone has an opposing opinion. That's fine. I WanNa hear about it because I'm struggling bullied because I want to cheer for Becky Lynch. But she's not giving me a reason to cheer for Beckett as a matter of fact that I was having this conversation with Gabby before the show and Gabby agreed with. Ah We've found ourselves cheering for Oscar last night. Then we were Becky Lynch 'cause we all love Oscar and if they're trying to present becky Becky as cool and cocky at times like a couple of weeks ago we were. We were comparing her to the rock because she called everybody hopes and rocky called Everybody Jubran. There's nothing inclusive about Becky's entire act. No matter how big rocky became all all he had to do is sit in the middle of the Ringo the millions and the crowd chant and millions right then and there bang in that second second in time the Rock and his fan base where one because I say something and you say something back and we're in this together Steve. Steve could say something. What and the people say what what what what was interaction? They felt like they were a part of it with Steve. If you're a becky fan what do you feel like. You're a part of right now with becky. I don't know I don't have an answer for you. I don't see how a Steve or Iraq to people that were kind of comparing her to because the wwe is forcing us to compare her to them via her her actions. You see how there's a big difference between those two megastars and her being collusive nece is missing. Well let's let's rewind to when this all started where you know. Don't forget that in that feud with back in Charlotte at the start bully and we were on the bandwagon that we didn't want it this way a is they wanted Charlotte to be the one that everyone loved and Becky to one the be hated. And we're like man. They're missing the boat on this. And you know everyone's everyone one loves becky. They don't love Charlotte because Charlotte's the one that's already one been on top and his getting opportunities that she'd deserve because at the time. Becky was entre present right so so she reminded me a lot of Daniel Bryan because Daniel Bryan was somebody that we wanted to see in the main event picture and wasn't getting the opportunities and they were giving it to you. You know triple H or they were giving it to a returning Batista. You know. And he wasn't getting it and you talk about getting something that was inclusive. I mean my God those yes chance that you heard everywhere from those crowds Dan. O'Brien and then Daniel Bryan won that championship. Unfortunate we'd never really got to see where that was going to go. Because then he got injured and altogether the other at one point he was out of pro wrestling. But with becky right now. It's almost like you know and again. Maybe maybe it is like to. I'm dominant. I don't need to take shit from anybody. I don't need anybody else. I'm an independent person and I don't need anyone and that's fine. I'm not saying that there's anything wrong along with that if that's who you are that's great but when you do that and you're saying I don't need anybody else it's just me it's I what there's no I in team now. We're no longer a team. It's it's not all of us against the world now it's just you and God bless you good luck but I don't feel like I'm a part of it anymore. You're and wrestling fans WANNA feel like they are a part of somebody's success. There are superstar correct. Yes and Becky is the one on who basically told everybody years ago. That if it wasn't for all you guys I wouldn't have got to the top stress. No it's no. It's true so so I don't mind somebody going out there on their own and saying I as long as they've been saying I from the beginning thing becky has been saying we and us from the beginning and now it sounds like it's too much I and that's why I think she's losing a couple of people and this is where I go back to. WHO's producing her? Whoever is with with her knee needs to realize? I think everybody knows that that Becky is a diamond in the rough over there she truly is. I wonder if there's is too many cooks in the kitchen with her. I would've signed her to one person. And One person only and that is probably and that's the one person who in my opinion understands characters and personalities and how to bring the best out of somebody's natural personality and natural actual character and that's Hayman I mean it's like not even a to me. It's not even like I don't even have to give it a second thought or like you said it's it's similar to. She's becoming very similar. You know we. We make the comparisons to stone cold. And I'm just making comparisons because there's nobody like Becky Lynch but we're trying to just compare it in our world. She's more potent than anybody. Nobody else like I see more a loner. Yeah like a loner. Like I'm doing this on my own. I don't need anybody. I don't need your help. Don't I know you're trying to help me but I don't like like your help. I don't need your help. Leave me leave me alone. I see more for being that independent punk character than any other character that we've been talking about during today's show and that's fine and Dandy but the more she becomes that out on the island by myself. I'm GonNa do this all alone. I think. That's the more she. She distances herself from her fan base. Yes people will still love her and still be inter but not the way they were and if you watch the reactions does she got good reactions. Of course she does she getting the same reactions. No she's not hot. And there's a reason why you and the girl were talking before the show and you wanted to see Oscar win. What's the reason you liked? Oscar maybe maybe it maybe Oscar is the new up and coming in. Your is just the way Becky was back in the day. Maybe now almost seems like Oscar is the underdog and for a straight up. Shoot in reality. She's become the underdog and the wwe because she's so freaking good meanwhile they don't give her what we think she deserved and and we talk. Talk about like becky being that baby face in two thousand and twenty because this is in nineteen ninety eight and this is not nineteen eighty-four but when you look at pro wrestling sling bully obviously pro wrestling fans. Don't just watch raw for three hours on Monday. They listen to our show and they read on the Internet. So if you're doing all those things like a hardcore pro wrestling fan does then you're a hundred percent right Oscars the one. That's a bit of the underdog here because as we know Oscar super talented. And ever since she was in that match at Wrestlemainia New Orleans she is kind of gone down that slope downward onward as opposed to what we've seen with Becky Lynch where now she's on top of the mountain and it's easier to root for the person that's on the bottom working can their way up then the person that's on top of the mountain because the person that's working their way up is relatable Oscar to me is somebody that deserves a lot more than what she's has gotten and I know that you could throw out the tag team championships. That in the eyes of the WWE. That really doesn't mean a lot. I think everybody would say say that. Oscar deserves to be in the main event at Wrestlemania. Because she's dad damn good and right now. She's nowhere near that especially really bully. After the loss she took on raw and the first hour of the show. So you're probably right. The reasons that Gabby and I are rooting for Oscar last night because she somewhere more near the position that Becky Lynch was eighteen months ago. Then we're becky Lynch's now to dusty Rhodes ever go out on his own. No he needed the help of the people and and that's it and that's it all of the people that just brought up all of the megastars Iraq and Austin a dusty Rhodes they were always inclusive. I'M NOT GONNA compare my myself devante any of those three guys but we made sure that our act was always conclusive. I don't know what's inclusive about becky anymore. I'm not talking about like a signature move or a signature spot or a signature. Saying I'm just saying that from the beginning Becky said it was about her and the fans all held back together together. And we're going to get to the top okay. Cool you're at the top. Have you forgotten about those people in deer yourself again or if you really really want to get deep into this whoever the hell is coming up with the stuff that's coming out of her mouth make sure for you right for her to be endearing to her fan base. Just always make sure it goes back to the fans hands be who you are but also remember where you came from Michael. You're hearing catch busted open. Live Monday through Saturday from nine. AM to noon eastern on Sirius. XM Fight Nation Channel One fifty six four on demand with the series. XM APP when we're talking about Becky Lynch and what she feels she deserves and that doesn't matter race or gender. If you're the top person company you should be baking top person money. The and that's our goal right now and I think she's proving that point because you know outside of maybe a brock Lese. I don't think there's anybody more popular in the WWE Bwi than Becky Lynch Roman reigns included. And then you began to tell us something. You're appealing behind the curtain a little bit. Please continue if you're in the wrestling business business. You're obviously you're in the entertainment business. But what business are you really in the art of what you're not in the entertainment business you are in the entertainment business but you're also another business and this is what dusty us to push every time you always want to be doing something you you always want to be doing what you WanNa be pushing your brand selling selling selling so if you're an entertainer your salesman. Okay no different than like a car salesman salesman so if you're a car sales when you go in you ask for a raise your boss is going to say. Well why should I give you a raise. And what's the number one thing that you can point point to as a salesman to quantify your race look at my numbers. Look at the amount of cars I sell and look at the amount of money I gross on each excel. There's my heart numbers. Give me more money. What does a wrestler have to quantify and justify a raise what what numbers asses in seats merchandise sales? How do you know what is in what seat because of you by the t shirt that they're wearing designer holding up so it's not an ass seat? It's a t-shirt sell merchandise. Merchandise is the the number one thing that a wrestler in point too because they can turn around and go look at my merchandise. Check that you cut me this quarter it's for X. amount of dollars allers and that's for like and you get like five percent or ten percent whatever it is in the wwe five or ten percent of your merch whatever. Now let's say. Hey becky listen I know what merch sales look like in the wwe. I've been very blessed to be a part of that company and get those merch checks four times a year. Still do God. Bless Vincent man so if you're getting five or ten percent of that merch cut imagine what the company's getting right but you're still able to quantify and justify based on that number what other numbers is a wrestler truly privy to well you we've we already talked about the numbers for merchandise talked about attendance ratings on the show that they're on. How do you really know what rating you've done unless you can get your hands on the quarter hour rank thank readings or if you can get the minute by minute which used to be a thing back in the day so if you could get a hand get your hands on the corner our but then in a Boston turn around and go well? There were two segments in that quarter hour. How do we really know that the people stayed on the channel because of you and not the other person but if you can get get the minute by minute breakdown now you have something that a boss has to listen to but getting those numbers not easy so the one number is merchandise? And here's the moral of the story. It really doesn't matter what you think. You're worth breath and it really doesn't matter what they think you're worth all that matters is what you can negotiate make sense because they're going to start high when I say they I'm talking about any business okay. I'm not just talking about the recognizes. They're gonNa Start Ho. They're we're GONNA start low. You're GonNa Start High and hopefully you meet someplace in the middle this is why say hey the. WWe likes to control their stars a lot more than they ever have. If you're steve or if you're Iraqi or if you're John Those are the biggest three names of the past Twenty years yes. Yes you can. Basically Walk into Vinci's Oh and brock. I'm sorry my bad brock is actually brock is the best example brock. Trump's them all you can walk into the office you can go and slide vintage piece of paper with a number on it and go. That's the number and that's it and I guess what Becky is saying that she feels hey main event at wrestlemainia thirty five life. I walk out there and I see all the Becky Lynn signs and I see all the becky. Lynn's t shirts. Why is my check this where I see other people on this roster where? I don't see the shirts I don't see the signs. I don't see them in the main event and they're making more more than I do. How how does she know what other people are making? I would think that probably people talk and people not not when you get to those numbers. They don't one of the first things you rest perkins. Sorry the first things. You're talking one of the first things you're taught in the wrestling business. Never discuss money with your fellow wrestlers. Do you know why why it breeds jealousy. It's poisonous this one time. Roh Dog came up to me and said and it was the deadliest versus road. Dogg and Billy Gunn and against the new age outlaws. We had we had a paper TAG team paper match on pay per view. Whatever he goes bubble? What you get for that match and I actually I I sell into the trap and I don't know why I said I got this much road? Dogg said that him and billy got double. I mean even we're like what the hell we're in the match to. Why take it right? I started up an instant now. Maybe he was rigging me and it worked or maybe he was telling the truth because he's like. Hey man you guys deserve is just as much as we they do. Now it's up to you to go fight for your money. You're always fighting for your money too. I think Becky Lynch is right. Now is worth as much as just about anybody else on the roster. Yes now it's Becky's job or Becky's agents job to go in there and prove it and negotiate it. She can't go in there and go. Well I'm getting X. amount of dollars but you're paying so and show X. amount of dollars they're going to say how the hell do you know that. How do you know it's true? How do you know they're not working you? You can't go by. What other wrestlers are making? And if they're not talking then she's probably just looking at her own paycheck. She might be saying you know what before Wrestlemainia thirty five and before I saw the t shirts with my name on it and before I saw the signs with my name on it and before so the long lines at you know Wrestlemainia the access. I was making this much and now looking at my check and I'm still making this much. Why am I not making another number? That's much higher because of all the revenue on bringing in for you you then go negotiate that when your next contract comes up and up because a company has no reason to pay you more once. You've negotiated a deal well bully. Why don't we bring our myself into this? You know you and I have had conversations. We went we went from millions. Two Thousand House. No I get your point. No but you know where I'm coming from in the fact that this show started from nothing for years as I did this show for nothing extra. Just did it for the love of doing this show. I need you know. And that's not just something I'd say that something that's hundred percent true and then you know. I started making something which I was appreciative for. But then this show blew up with the help of you and mark and Tommy. Obviously I don't sleep on that at all and then you get get sponsors on the show and then we get moved to mornings and then we go five days a week and then we're on for three hours and then at our ten year anniversary party the day stop people from coming in and the guy who owns the bar is about to call the fire marshal because he's afraid and then you know I'm thinking all right I'm on the easy street. Think I'M GONNA get a big race happening. I had to put the ball in motion. I had to turn that wheel emotion for them. Appreciate you have to force. They're not gonNA just no one's and this is a life lesson for everyone. Unfortunately it should happen but unfortunately no one's ever going to say wow. You're doing an amazing job here. You go it's not gonNA happen. You have to force their hand for that to happen. And that's what Becky Lynch is doing. I mean right now at least outside of the ring. She's saying wait a second. Why am I getting this when I should be getting that well? That's because what you negotiated. Now maybe she's what she's is really talking about is like payoffs on shows so like I. It would take me too long to break down. How a contract is laid out within the WWE? This downside guarantees which every wrestler in the world should thank Eric Bischoff for because he was the first one to throw out downside guarantees but then can you make payoffs on the houses. So let's say Becky Lynch is working on a show. The same show. That Roman reigns is on right and Becky semi main in Romans main and let's say Maybe a Roman reigns made one hundred dollars for for the night and Becky made fifty dollars for the night. Maybe becky you're saying hey I deserve the same pay off on that show now. I understand. Stay in her argument because she can make a case for. Hey look out in the audience half the people here have my shirt on and if half the people here have my shirt on. There's a damn good chance that those people bought tickets to see main so my payoffs on the houses should be higher but if she's talking what about downside guarantee which means the amount of money you are guaranteed by the WWE for one year to make if she saying that number should be higher will then you should have have negotiated a higher number. Don't don't bitch about it now. You had every opportunity to sit across from Vince. McMahon or your agent had a chance to talk to their ancient Blah Blah Blah. Whatever and say this is how much money I wanna make now that this is the case with Becky Lynch but she's making it public? She's saying verbally that you know what I wanna make more and she should and you know what everybody should because I think there was a misconception for a long the time because especially in the wwe. How women's wrestling was perceive? It wasn't that long ago how was only just a few years ago. Bully where we're women's wrestling in the wwe. Was the bathroom break us. I'm sorry but it's true. That is not the case anymore. As a matter of in fact probably the women's matches are why people do go duty arena and buy a ticket and that's why you saw it in the main event at Wrestlemainia thirty five so if there there is a difference in the page structure when it comes to Ben and women that needs to change now because i the the men for the most this part are taking a back seat to what the women are doing no argument if you want more money go negotiate more money. I will we'll tell you this. I've had two instances with the wwe where I was unhappy with the payoff. I went in there and within five minutes. I got my money. Johny voice your opinion as a professional and you do it respectfully at twice for me. It has worked. Now when you get to contract negotiation time any company WANNA DO THEY WANNA THEY WANNA try to keep payroll down. Yes what do you want to especially as a performer as a wrestler. I mean look at what we put our bodies through. Look at what we put our families through and you can put family family before your own body if you're not on the road that many days a year and I did it for. I did it three hundred days a year. It was six years straight straight and then like two hundred and fifty days a year every other year and guys that came before me did it even more you always feel like flare saying seven days a week on twice twice on Sundays. You basically never saw your family so if you're GONNA put your body through all of that all of that struggle and that pain and forget about in the ring. The ring was the easy part. It's driving in the cars. It's sleeping in different beds in the hotels. It's flying on the planes that I don't care if you're flying first class you're still flying on a plane and dealing with the airport portrait dragging your bags and getting on a plane and Blah Blah. It takes a toll on you to travel takes more of a toll on you then anything. So if you're GONNA put yourself through this and you're an independent contractor with no 401k. Or this or that you have to rely on. You have to do it all yourself at set yourself up for retirement which oh by the way you never know when that day is coming because your last match can beat tomorrow and you'd never know about it true that's why you've got to negotiate the most money tomorrow can be your last match because you you might have an injury that doesn't allow you to wrestle anymore and tomorrow could be your last match because you become a victim of the most powerful tool and the entire wrestling business. Do you know what the most powerful tool in wrestling with the pencil. You how I talk about you know if if I had the pencil. That's that's what I that's what I talk about creative and creative that I write down. The Pencil is the most powerful tool in pro wrestling. Because one side of the Pencil can make you a millionaire and in an instant the other side of the Pencil can put you in the poor house. 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The Rise of Keith Lee - Thursday NOTSAM Thursday

Notsam Wrestling

56:42 min | 8 months ago

The Rise of Keith Lee - Thursday NOTSAM Thursday

"Is Introducing your host from in New York. Here is real hers. Happy Thursday and welcomed a Thursday not Sam Camp Thursday not just on any Thursday Turkey Thursday here in the United States of America. It is Thanksgiving Thursday. And I tell you based on Anybody that knows. Their history is very high high-pressure time to do a wrestling podcast. Historically speaking Thanksgiving is some of the big. It used to be back in the day Thanksgiving night Christmas night. Those are big days for wrestling shows like territories would run wrestling shows even. WWE would run survivor series as for a period of time on Thanksgiving night. It was that theory that you know everybody was off work. Everybody was exhausted of seeing their family by the time the evening joining rolled around right. If it's Christmas you've already opened all your presence by the afternoon fits Thanksgiving. You're having Thanksgiving dinner early. So one seven seven. Eight o'clock rolls around. What are you doing where you gotTA head on down to the local arena and see the wrassling show right so now I feel like More and more more in the last. I don't know five years or so. Maybe thanksgiving is probably more than that. Maybe ten ten years but in the past several several years. We'll say Thanksgiving has become a time when wrestling podcasts. Drop started with you. Know the famous call Cabanas and PUNK podcast Hyde cash dropping on Thanksgiving and so on and so forth. There's always something noteworthy happening so there's a lot of pressure on yours truly the last professional broadcaster. But we'll find a way to get through it. We're coming off. Of course the Luke Hawks interview that was on Monday. Why you guys are off work if you're in the states if you're not in the states and I'm sitting here talking about Thanksgiving and people being off work and all this stuff and you're just getting upset come to the US baby it's great? 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King Baby I am the content king speaking of being the content king. I cannot believe I am flabbergasted that in this day and age as we start to draw close to twenty twenty nine thousand nine Right around Thanksgiving of all times. I cannot believe that people are still booing. Me Or Ah taking massive dumps on me on the Internet based on my takes on the kickoff shows because let me tell you something. I'm literally right every time I mean think about it. I had the weekend of a lifetime. I was hosting annex t war takeover wargames is pre show on Saturday with Pat McAfee. And Charlie Caruso on Sunday I was part of the survivor series kickoff golf show at ringside right along with Jbl and think about this stuff that I was criticized four. Okay the first thing that was criticized for I loved having the Mike's on for the Arena for the NFC takeover wargames pre show. Because I got an instantaneous reaction. What did I get an instantaneous reaction? For what do people booming for. What did people tweet about the fact that I should never be on? WWE TV. I Take Matt Riddle. I will not beat thin. He came into an X.. T. is all potential and is still simply potential. He is accomplished nothing since coming to annex. T he he lost defend valor. I was right next week. Dakota I talk about terrible. Pick her own team. Me didn't even bring her to smackdown what happens mere hours later. Dakota could not even an hour probably less than sixty minutes later Dakota Heard me remembered. Oh Yeah teague. Inox didn't bring me to smackdown. Oh Yeah when the team was first formed. Rea- Ripley was like. Hey Dakota kyw hit the bricks teague inox was just sitting there looking at me going. You heard the lady and allowed me to go. She's a terrible partner. Sam was right. Let me turn on her and let me steal nibras right offer or gangly legged. That's decoding said anyway. So I'm right across the board would take over Dakota one hundred percent the right thing. The first invasion show when the most of the smackdown roster was stuck overseas. And you know. All these annex t superstars showed up to really make an impact. The tag team that we saw was teagan. Knox six and Ria Ripley teague inox Dakota kyw literally were such attacked him. They had a name. They were team kick. They were just on TV two days before that. But still teague inox picks re Ripley. That's insulting so Dakota Kyw heard me she said you know what at this point point. I am a bottom of the barrel pick. I put myself in that position. Let me take myself out of that position so boom I was right there. Then you turn around then people are all over me. 'cause I went on survivor series kickoff show and what did I say Shayna Baiser is not going to get beat. She's better than Becky Lynch and Bailey really. NFC's Women Division Women's division right now is the best it's ever been. That means Shayna baseler being the best woman in the women's division. She's the champion is better than Becky and Bailey. Because becky and Bailey were both in a women's division that was inferior to the women's division that chain of bazars the champion of so. I said they're not going to beat her and what happens. They didn't beat her. Shane obeys won that match. I was right again. Then I get all kinds of crap because I go. You know rose and a lot of trouble because who knows where Owen loyalty lies and Seth rollins is a terrible leader. He's the worst team. Captain out there and the fans are giving him that reaction every time he walks out and boom. What happens team raw loses? And Seth rollins shows up on raw the next night and he's a terrible person. I was right again literally. Every take I had on these kickoff shows I was right but somehow I'm an evil man. Get a life get bent Willia- I even got a reference to call them myself. Scoops Roberts Okay Scoops Roberts was there. He was in effect and it was ready again. What can I tell you you can be mad about it? All you want began denied the facts. Kenya speaking Seth Rollins. You know It it was nice to see I thought raw in general this week a lot of stuff it was nice to see some movement you know. I thought that the the movement of the seth rounds character was exactly what it should be you know. He's that we've talked about it before but GREAT VILLAINS DON'T CONSIDER THEMSELVES VILLAINS GREAT VILLAINS are are fighting for what they think they think they're the heroes you know. They're not trying to break the rules. They're not trying to destroy anything. Their their their motive for what they're doing is in their opinion justified. Seth rollins as of Ross still considered himself the locker room leader and had to tell L. The rest of the roster that they sucked now to the rest of the roster. Seth rollins comes off like a toolbag legged jerk. I believe it was on this podcast that I said Siyam punk is wrong. When he says Seth Rollins shouldn't tweet? We should see the Seth rollins that we see on twitter on TV not the other way around. We shouldn't see more of the Seth rollins that we see on raw. We should see more of the settlements that we see on twitter. I said that. And that's what we're seeing. I'm very very happy about it. I think it's a really good decision. That that Seth rollins that sort of a defensive cocky competitive give slightly do she. Seth rollins is the one that we're seeing on TV now and he's there to help people that they suck when they suck money. That's great great so I thought that was good. I actually appreciated the movement in a lot of rousseff storyline and rousseff kind of losing his mind and beating the crap out of Lashley you know. I thought that was good. There's something about knocking over the set on Monday night raw. That is getting get people people every time it gets me everytime rousseff kicking over that pillar or that's cylinder or whatever it is just made the whole segment for me and you could hear you're the crowd. You can hear the crowd losing their minds when he did it. That's what made it work just that one. Little additional kick in that that metal tower thing tumbles tumbled over and all of a sudden. You're like Oh this is serious. I thought it was awesome. I thought that was great and I thought it was funny that it really goes to show. Oh how little details can change everything that that is it's usually usually. The problem. Doesn't lie within the concept. Usually the problem lies within the execution of the concept most concepts you can make work to some degree the execution can be tricky sometimes and I think the execution in a lot of the Roussev. Lana Lashley Story. Segments events has been poor leading to this one but I think the execution in this week segment where roots have knocked over. The Tower was good. I thought it was good execution. And Lana coming out and saying you know he's a he's a menace to society. He's a danger to everybody. You know I'm I guess I'm interested in seeing where it's going it's gotta go somewhere right. TLC's coming up. It seems like a pay per view like TLC would be a good place to have a grudge match between route seven. Lashley kneeling problem is all the paper user dual branded now so a lot of times. You don't don't end up. Getting those grudge matches a lot of times. You end up getting you know because of all the title matches because of all the stars you have. You wonder if there's going to keep pushing off route seven lashley in pushing off Rustaveli Rustavi. Lashley part of me was a little bit scared. That did they were just going to do the match on raw this week and cut their losses because at this point we got to see it through. You've made us suffer long enough. It's been two months of this. You have to see it through. I WanNa know where it's going now. For better or worse yes and I can make my prediction of which of those two. It'll be Mad Hardy coming back in during the J. O.. Beata Buddy Murphy. I think it's I think it's good on on all counts. I think it You Know Matt Hardy was trending. Everybody was talking about the fact that he came back. I think it's good for Buddy Murphy. Because he beat somebody with credibility. I think it's ultimately good for Matt Hardy because it's like. Okay where's Matt Hardy. Go after a loss like that I was happy I think you ray. Losing it survivors finally having this high profile rivalry it has paid off. I think that it's a good thing that ray mysterious now is the United States champion. Because it's like you have this high profile rivalry with brock listener and your son and like let's be honest. Brock listener has has now beaten up Ramos and his son and his son's Godfather who happens to became Velazquez. He became Velazquez in a minute. You you know. He beat Ramos Zero and his son at the same time. That story is over so you kind of have to take the gray right. Now that the spotlight is on him and let him shine. You know now that the spotlight is on Ray. If you you don't take advantage of that you run the risk of you know all that being for nothing and at the end of the day Ray looks worse. I think ray actually looks better for the whole story with brock listener and now that he's the United States champion. I think that they're really. They're utilizing Ramos Stereo. What I liked about the seth rollins segment to of have you back to that first second besides the fact that that you know he was showing more personality that I think is realistic? Realistic to have the audience is responding to him. I liked that it showed that there were some at least some ramifications vacations to survivor series. You know if you watched annex t this week last night You saw there were a lot of people. Were wearing t shirts you know. I think Beth Phoenix wearing anyone. I I li wearing one on twitter. I don't know if she wore to the ring or not. I don't remember but I think she went into the ring. I don't remember but it was the annex T it was survivor series and it had the score on it kind of just braggadocious t-shirt about how annex t mopped the floor with Ron smackdown I thought that was good. The fact that Ed rollins like the motivation for Seth Rollins to turn heel is what happened survivor series. I thought that was good. You know coming off of survivor series. Last year smackdown lost like every single match and we got to smackdown nobody cared. Nobody said anything about it. No I mean I guess they did. Shane McMahon did a thing if I remember correctly but it really wasn't. It didn't lead to anything huge. I don't think I kinda like so the AARP. Seth rollins things interesting because they're going to have to do it differently. The you know granted J. and J. Security Jamie Noble and Joey Mercury very different from the A. O. P. The AARP OPR. These big MANTRAS men in those guys are kind of playing the characters of corporate weasel so clearly very different but still. I think that they do have to walk a fine. Fine Line if you're GONNA do stuff with the AARP alongside seth rollins of making it different from what it was before. I think it's genius ends. It's a real subtle thing and I don't know how many people picked up on it but I noticed the when the authors are paying came to the ring on Monday night raw to mop the floor to destroy dismantle and embarrass Curt Hawkins Zack Ryder. Who by the way will never ever and should never get that title shot that they were supposed to get last week but when they came out to humiliate Curt Hawkins Zack Ryder successfully. They were not wearing thing. They're Kevlar vest that they wore before they started doing this current story they were not wearing. I mean you know they kind of had the padding on their legs the the tank tops on you know what I mean. They weren't wearing the Kevlar vest and I thought that was really smart. Because the Kevlar vests are very reminiscent Emily Nissen of the shield even when they wore them and then x t I was like okay. This is like the next version of the shield like it was very reminiscent of the shield. The fact that they joined Seth Rollins in that same night I feel like that decision was made purposely where they were like well. If they're gonNa these two are going to join South Rollins we don't want them wearing. Kevlar hoeveler because we don't want people thinking. This is the shield to point out. We want people thinking. This is something different and I don't think people are making comparisons to the shield. Just is because it's hypothetically three guys but other than that I don't think people are making that comparison so I think it was successful and I'm a fan of factions. I think factions are are very under utilized in this era. And I think when they're good they're great you know. Look at the shield look at undisputed era. You know I think that I. That's why I'm advocating advocating to do some kind of barren corden royal family faction bad guys specifically bad guy factions are really really really good. Historically you get stars out of him you know look at the nation of domination. I don't know if you want to dive. Deep into the disciples of apocalypse in Los Body. But you know you talk about the nation of domination you're talking about the w o you talk about. DX You talk about the free birds you talk about the horseman you talk about. You know everybody the Varsity Club for God's Sakes There's merit to all of these and and and even when you're doing like the Heenan family it just made guys that maybe didn't have that kind of buzz about them. All of a sudden people are talking talking about them. Because Oh we'd better pay attention. This guy is part of the Heenan family. I think the Brood even the brew while the Leader Gang Langrell didn't flush out. The Brood brought all the is to edge and Christian so I and the Ministry of Darkness The corporation and I think factions are great. I think factions are really really good and completely under utilized right now And hopefully we're gonNA see Moore also when you have factions and you have somebody who's not in one for instance yesterday annex t fin ballor knocking out with Tomas O.. Champa laid out and taking the victory over him still laying out Adam Cole. The fact that you have that faction where air if thin Baylor wanted to he could easily easily join the undisputed era and have four guys watching his back back but he doesn't want to. It makes even even bigger statement about being a lone wolf if there are factions that you could potentially join to be alone regardless of that I think is an even bigger statement than otherwise and now you got raw where hypothetically you've got the O. C.. See and you've got the Seth rollins authors have pain factions both going on. I think that there's room for lots of room for both of them and more and they're great. I mean there's so many guys is on the roster now anyway it can only help. You're not going to do a gallows and Anderson match on every episode of raw but you could do something with the OC on every episode of raw you have AJ styles wrestling Galveston or center on the outside. You have Anderson Wrestling Styles and gals are on the outside you know it gives gives tv time to everybody. There's just so many benefits to it. I think it's great but yeah so I thought it was. I thought it was a pretty decent raw. Aw You know we've been on a string of Roz where I don't think enough has been happening on those shows and would this one a lot was happening so I thought it was really good I'm speaking of really good when you talk about the whole annex t envisioning first of all I think the whole annex t invasion angle was success will no more I guess when we find out what the ratings for next he were this week I thought was a better show this week than W although i. NCAA WS whole show. Like I said that's why we don't talk about it too much on this podcast because you know I ended up watching so much. WWE staff that. I don't WanNa give half asked review of a show that I haven't really watched so I don't think that's fair to anybody involved. But the fact that Andy Williams from every time I die and Virgil or on that show makes me think that the old school Sam Robert show that I used to do you want Sirius. Xm Is the feeder system to that promotion. But I digress will no more as as to whether or not the invasion angle is successful for an xt and the survivor series. Wins were successful for annex. T there's no doubt in my mind that the reason annexed next t one so by by by such a large margin Talim large margin sent cha the reason annexed he won by such a large margin Arjun survivor series was because they're the lowest watched show and I think. WWe just wants to increase the visibility and the cachet of that brand right so they make them look like a million bucks the same way. They've been making him look like a million bucks throughout this invasion angle. So last week we had really great ratings for an X. T. but that was also an episode that had the invasion stuff going on Viking raiders revival. Becky Lynch Seth Rollins was a huge show. This week it only had the annex t guys on it but the guys are all bigger stars this week than they were last week because wargames wargames and survivors and more specifically survivor series. And you know I was thinking about and I talked about it a little bit at the top of the show on Monday Sunday but I was thinking about who really benefits from from the invasion and the month lead up to survivor series and really servive or series weekend. I think when you talk about who benefited the most throughout the entire month. Probably Adam Cole I am Cole probably comes out looking like the biggest star but when you look who benefited the most in just the weekend the wargame survivor series weekend and who moved the most you know I think Adam Cole might have benefited the most but he was starting in a position. That was already really really good in terms of who moved the most from starting to finish point this weekend was for all intents and purposes the birth of the next level of keithly. I mean gene. Keith Lee comes out of this whole thing looking like a hundred million dollars. I've we've talked on this podcast before I had a conversation with Adam Cole about it about how cool it was to have multiple main eventers in annex t right when Finn Mbala. I showed up and you're looking and tomato chop is demanding a title shot but Finn Baylor clearly can go straight to the main event but Johnny Gargano is always ready for the main event event. Adam Cole is the champion so right there you've got four main eventers good to go at any point. You could boost velveteen dream up there if you wanted to. But he's in the North American title picture after this weekend. You can add Keith lead to that I mean. I think that you know granted you're still in this position where both thin Baylor and Tomasz. Oh CIAMPA want title matches with Adam Cole. But you're next. Takeover they announced is February. I think February wrote it down February sixteenth in Portland. It's going to be a standalone event. It's not GonNa be Royal Rumble weekend. They're not doing a takeover royal rumble weekend. They're they're doing one as a standalone and I think there's a real argument there. The Keith Lee may be the Guy I who is in the main event match with Adam Cole on that show and are just looking at the discord room for all that all the Patriot members are in and WWe front row. Who is a huge advocate for women's wrestling which I love Says in his opinion rea- Ripley wasn't even a bigger win for survivor series. Weekend and I would kind of put her with Adam Cole. I think that really was already on this path to be the top female good guy in annex t before the invasion stuff ever started you. You know I think the minute. She was announced as a fulltime annex t roster member. Ria Ripley was okay. She's she's going to be the one. That challenges Shayna Baiser. I mean back in January Kan.. When people were asking me like after you said what you said about Bianca Bel Air on the kickoff show if Bianca Bel Air doesn't deserve kickoff match with Shane obeys lawyer who does Ria Ripley? Really at that point the Annex T U K women's champion was already the person that I was going. She is the one to go one on one with Shayna Baiser as real competition so to me shoes already there. I think there's more is on her but I don't think that her position has moved. Necessarily I think that what she has done is cemented herself at the top of the next women's division and with her help there are more is on the entire next women's division. I think Keith Lee is a guy that you didn't you certainly before survivor series before war. Games James you're not having conversations realistically about keithly being in the main event of annex t you might have had conversations about how you wanted to see that you might have had conversations about how you could see that happening at some point. But you're not sitting there if I told you the end of the survivor series. Men's ends match was Roman reigns and keithly shaking hands a month ago. You wouldn't believe me you'd go. I don't think so you know. Keithly was just in a rivalry dominic di Jakovic and it was just like these guys have good matches together. So we're going to have them wrestle a whole bunch and show everybody it keeps these always been popular and he's always been like potentially intially great but with all the stuff going on in that main event seen before Gargano injured within ballor back with riddle with Chapa. You know what I mean when you're when you're making that chart of who is Adam Cole. Going to face next at a takeover with his title on the line. You'RE GONNA CIAMPA. You're GONNA FIM Valor. You're going riddle. You're gone Gargano whenever he comes back. And that's that's kind of the list. I right now you could easily put keithly at the very top and I don't think you could put them lower than second place you know I think at this point. It's almost like you gotta say I think thank it goes chump and then Keith Lee and maybe in the other way maybe in the other direction and that's great because we finally have some blood now annexed were not only do we have all these different potential opponents for Adam Cole. But you've now got a guy who's never been in the main event of a takeover you know we've seen to Moscow so CIAMPA main event many takeovers all johnny wrestling was doing for two thousand eighteen dollar created the main event of NFC takeover as a big deal. Keith Lee has never had that opportunity. We've never seen keithly in that position and he's going to get there man. I mean it was magic survivor series. The moment survivor series was so good. That as much as there was excitement for the Shayna Baiser Becky Lynch Eh Baily match. That should not have gone on last. The men's elimination match should have absolutely gone on last. The men's elimination Manasian match was great. There were a couple of things that you know. Were kind of like Oh. I wish they hadn't done that. I wish they hadn't eliminated Walter so quickly. You know a couple of things like that but ultimately especially at the end the story that you start telling the fact that Seth rollins gets eliminated. I out of the last three guys when you got seth rollins lends Roman reigns and Keith Lee. You'd think it's going to be CIAMPA and it's Keith. Elite right chop is in there too. Do He gets eliminated. You're like what the hell is going on now. And then keithly pins. Seth Rollins keithly pinned seth rollins at survivor series. He's and then he's in there with Roman reigns and Roman reigns beats him and he should have because Roman reigns is the man nobody should ever beat him but Roman reigns beats him and people just love what they've seen and there's a handshake between the two of them and nobody's sitting there going like. Oh you know. Roman reigns is just trying to put a little bit of shine on onto Keith Lee. Everybody's going like I reckon I recognize these two equals. I'm ready to see a Roman reigns versus key match. Now you know. I've listened to people who are going like well. The rumor is any again into one of these like links that you find on facebook that you think is real gossip. I think somebody posted it in the discord room. The rumor is that keep lease GonNa Vincent Guide to take the title off broad Glasner. Let's let's let's all slow it down a sec you know. I've heard a lot of people. Advocating the key lease GonNa win the Royal Rumble. This year. which you know I? I don't think that crazy definitely have next. He representation in the Royal Rumble. This year. And I could see that happening. You know I did. The Royal Rumble is going to get much much more interesting than what the same way survivor series. Got Much more interesting because now whoever wins the royal rumble is going to get to pick the universal champion the WWe champion or the St Champion. You know so it's like are they going to have a match with with the fiend. Are they going to have the brock listener match match or they joining up with an X T. Like you know there's so many great possibilities for anybody that wins that match. I'm not ready to sit here and say keithly will win the royal rumble. So you know I I. I don't know that he should if he did. I'd be thrilled. I wouldn't be mad but I'd love to see him. Build a little bit more in annexed tea and get that takeover main event match because there is no takeover between now and the royal rumble next takeovers a month after the royal rumble. So you know and I think getting a title match with Adam Cole. Great anex television. But it's not the same Keith. Lee is going to go to raw or smackdown at some point and he is going to be a big star. I mean the think about the week not only does he bring the house down at war games. Not only is he one on one in the ring the final two at survivor series. He was one person away from being the actual sole survivor at survivor series. And he was in there with Roman reigns he pinned seth rollins and then you get to Wednesday. He has a tremendous tag title match and he gets one of the greatest his wrestling gifts of all time. Adam Cole. Running down that island catching the shoulder block. That sends him nine hundred thousand feet in the air careening into the first and second row at full sail university versity incredible. That gift is going to live forever. I already saw people saying you know me at the Thanksgiving table me reaching for the mashed potatoes me trying to get the stuffing before my brother me. You know what I mean like people are already meaning it for Thanksgiving and it just happened when they were doing that. Twenty minutes before it's it's memorable forever and it's one of those gifts that like you could show it to a non wrestling fan and they'd be like that's not real. That's amazing looking. Did that that powerhouse Keith. Lee and the abilities that he's got he has just hit. Hit a home run with every single opportunity. He has gotten and that to me is going to be the story ory of this weekend. This weekend was the rise of Keith Lee this weekend was the world getting to know. Oh keithly because the truth is there are not fans. The weren't that familiar with keithly. Not Everybody watched not every watches independent wrestling. You know not. Everybody was so familiar with keithly when he got to annex t and before next was on. USA keithly wasn't doing that much. I China next tea and even when he was on USA keithly was really just wrestling Dominic Cova and then he ends up somehow on this war wargames team and you go okay. I guess Keith Lee is there and Keith Lee goes oh no you're gonNA realize that keithly is there and he goes on and he gives the performance of a lifetime man. You know I I think that he just just totally crushed it. Just nailed sailed it on all levels and it's so cool to watch a star rise like that and to know that because of the way do things work in annex t we can have pretty good faith that that momentum is going to be built on you know I already felt the momentum being built upon based on what happened at survivor series. This Week on television I thought it was great. Thought it was really really good. Congratulations to keithly and to keithly fans because this is your all moment this is it's happening. It's happening for keithly and I don't think there's any anyway you can. You can deny what you saw especially at survivor series. I just don't think there's any way you can deny what you saw. And you know what he's a natural actual born good guy a guy that size. That's not normal. But he's a natural born. Good guy you look at his face. you believe him but you also Kinda WanNa hang with him. You don't look at him and go like Oh. I hope I don't ever have to fight that guy. You look at him going. I hope that guy has my back. I hope that that's going to be my body. That's going to be looking out for me. That's a great asset and keys got it in droves does he's doing great man he is doing absolutely great. This was to me no doubt about it. This was his weekend Speaking of the weekend And the weekday continued. Some people were surprised. Siham punk was not on Backstage and he tweeted tweeted. The dentist stamp mem- I was booked while I wasn't booked. Terry I've got other plans. I'm not going to be there because I wasn't booked. Somebody just come up to see him. Pumpkin I can ask him if you want to referee the main event I'd rather be in the main event breathe. See A punk not on backstage this week but I I think that was as the plan from the beginning you know. CNN punk is not a host renee. Young and Booker T.. Are the hosts of backstage. They're the ones that theoretically radically are going to be there every week. And everybody else kind of rotating you know I think. CMS PUNK is more official than Samoa. Joe Page or Christian in the sense sense that he's whatever he is a contributor. Whatever is deal is but I don't think it's anything anything more than that? I don't think he's anything suspicious. Che's It was interesting this week that they were. WWe was going out of their way to not make people feel like CNN. PUNK PUNK was on his way back into a ring. There were rumors that Seth rollins got in trouble backstage for bringing up. CNN punk in his opening promo on Monday night raw. Of course course if you Follow it along with the N.. T. Media call triple H said on the media call that that he was after takeover over that he was going out of his way nope no conversations had been had and of course everybody wants to see it he knows everybody wants to see if a no conversations were being head and he said that when everybody wants to see something they tend to say. So you're saying there's a chance But he said in the media call and this is true that he told me you that the when I announced that that the mystery shoppers mystery partner invitation that the person was in town was in Chicago but I didn't know who they were or if they had accepted that he told me that I told him. Roberts don't say Chicago because everybody will think it seeing Donkin. That's true. I said Hunter Scoops is going to go out there and let the world now this dude in Chicago the Champa the CIAMPA invited Vita Aaa. You looked at me. He said Sam as a yeah he said don't say Chicago. Just as here you got you got a boss. You got it Mr H.. As Pat Maggie calls him that Dope Pat McAfee but yeah so they are going out of their way to make it seem like it's not an inevitability and I think that they are hedging their bets with that. Did I in my opinion. I don't think that anything's official. It's just all hypothetical edical and wwe and the people that run things. WWE are smart enough to know that is probably going to do stuff with them. Yes you know I still stand by that. Firmly Siham punk is probably going to be doing stuff with. WWe wrestling. When I say doing stuff I mean wrestling being in matches? Inner Ring Probably Wrestlemainia. But I don't think that those commitments made. I don't think that that's official abet. Those conversations nations hasn't even happened yet and so instead of creating these rumors that it might happen. You look. There's always the chance that it won't happen and we don't want to make people think that that there's something going on here that there isn't so you know I think it's smart on their part to to not ought lead anybody on into thinking that this thing is happening because it's not happening until it's happening that just kind of the way it is I think that the best storylines going on and wwe right now are happening on twitter. The best storyline on twitter. Right now is the love story. That's blossoming between Dana Brooklyn Batista. It's actually making me not want to crap on Dana Brooke and boy did I. It's making me not want to bury Dana Brooke. You know you shouldn't be burying the talent. 'CAUSE I go you know what. I don't need any trouble from Batista teased. He's the animal for God's sake Earlier this week but East tweets out that he single again in kind of like AAC. Now the hell did this happen. You know he just tweets out. I'm officially single and I'm like OK Batista Getting back in there. Okay Petit Sta setting up a little thirst I trap for Yourself I see you. I see what you're doing. I respect the game. What I didn't expect was that he would start? tweeting shirt. tweeting not. DM tweeting shirtless pictures to Dana Brooke. Now dannebrog been playing it cool the whole time you know and she responds. It's in a very friendly way that she's looking forward to meeting up with him but it's not overly flirty whereas Batista is just shameless about it. I really respect. How Shameless Batista is? I think that if if you are after a woman if you want to date a woman you know I I think you have to be polite I think the chivalry is not dead. I think that you have to be chivalrous but I think you have to be shameless nameless too. I think that most people don't realize that women really respect for the most part in my experiences. I've found that women respect guys that are shameless. When I was pursuing my wife Jess I was shameless about it? I made it very clear what I was doing. It wasn't like you know that's how you when you're not not shameless. You kind of get trapped in the friend zone. Sometimes but when you're shameless when you're like oh no I'm looking at you and I do not want to be friends. Women kind of God like I find that they respect it unless they're not interested in which case you know. I'm not saying the B. Shameless but also be considerate. You know maybe take a walk. If they're not interested but Dana Brooks responding thing and it looks like you know. She said she's happy that wrestlemanias in Tampa petits design Tampa but Batista's trying to get Dana brought to his Jim. Now like Batista's trying to get Dana Brook to do a leg day at his gym. Batista wants to see Dana. Brooke do some squats at his gym. Batista is a big Fan of Dana Brooks squats and the results that those squats have yielded. Good for Dana Brooke. Good for Dave Batista. I respect it. I'm here for it and I want to be involved and be aware of every every piece of their information of their relationship. I want them to keep me up to date. I would watch a Dana Brooke petits to reality show ten times out of ten. I think it'd be great. You know who would have thought Dave Batista Has Been Eyeing Up Dana. Broke this whole time. Good good for her I mean she's obviously super into fitness. He's super into fitness. And I guess that's his thing I mean he's he's a Geeky he guy too but maybe you want somebody can lift with then you know do whatever else it is that we need to do. I know he can get some blue choose if he needs them. One of the things that one of the things that people have been buzzing about on the Internet has been What's going to happen tomorrow on smackdown down a new member has been advertised for the Firefly Fun House and I don't know exactly where this rumor started? But maybe it's maybe maybe I think live. Morgan tweeted something. Those kind of mysterious and then there was like advertisements being made that tomorrow. Our Friday on smackdown down. Now tomorrow there would be a third or new member a new face in the firefly funhouse tune into smackdown. Does he a new phase in the firefly funhouse people that along with live Morgan's tweet and started saying like. Oh maybe it's Morgan in the firefly funhouse then. There was a rumor going around based on a tweet that wound. That was even more heavy tweet. That went from a twitter account that was reportedly a wwe seamstress and she's sent out a tweet that was a video of her sketching gear for a female member of the firefly funhouse a female companion debris y line people are like. Oh my God there it is and I was like in that going like what seamstress is getting fired. Why would you tweet this out like this only to realize that the twitter account even though data verified I check was a fake twitter account? It was not a real twitter account it was not the seamstresses twitter account by any stretch of the imagination. It was a fake twitter account so the sketch was faked. The whole thing was faked right. Now that doesn't mean live Morgan. Rumor isn't true just means that that piece of evidence is not real evidence. I can only tell you what I hope because obviously I have no idea I don't want another human member. I want another puppet. I don't the need for there to be another human member of the Firefly House when you have a guy like fiend who's basically indestructible. Nobody can beat him. Nobody can keep him down. What does He? We need another person by his side for. I don't think the fiend ever needs to have anybody with him. The point of the Phoenix that he has no loyalties. You know I think the Bray Wyatt should exist in that firefly funhouse if you want to add another person to it. Make it in puppet form when you added the the boss Poppet Vincent Man Puppet. Everybody lost their minds. When you add you know people love this sister Abigail Doll people love the vulture doll? People they get so upset every time the Rambling Rabbit dies people. Love the puppets you can add as many puppets as you want. Keep adding puppets. But I don't think you should add had people you know the last thing you WanNa do is dilute this amazing story that we've been watching unfold and as much as bray. Wyatt keeps winning with no sign of stopping insight. It's still cool to see and I still get excited when he's on TV and I still WanNa watch his next match. So Oh you know that's what I would say. That's that's that's my gut although I'm ready to see whatever gets announced and to see if it's cool you know I'm ready for it to be equal. 'cause it other than the finish for Helena sell everything has been good to me with With the character other than the Helen South Finish And while we're talking about cool stuff to make sure that you tune on that. WWE network because that undertaker stone cold interview is something man. You just never see the undertaker like that and just to see him talk about stuff to see him talk about. WHO's nervous about his debuted? Seem talking about Coming out of the American bad asked to see him talk everything. Everything is just his relationship with Vince. McMahon to see you know all all this stuff it's really great see stone cold light up when when they talk about Buzz Sawyer you know I just thought I just thought it was so much fun to watch. I do before we get to emails. I do want to Senator shout out to the family. We we lost a very important listener to the show. This I guess we lost in this month we just. I just found out this week that he passed away. Mark in San Diego who has been a loyal listener of mine for years on the radio came over to the podcast. I was a big part of the of the discord room. Though we have for everybody who is a member of the Patriot page which is a big part of the Nazism Wrestling Community And he passed away Unfortunately which is a real. Bummer summer and I know that a lot of you guys are listening. Knew Him and you know our justice bummed out as the rest of us are He's just I straight up dude dude. One of the most supportive people as far as listeners. Go that I've ever hat around me. But at the same time. If he didn't like what I was doing he would just say flat out. And that's a quality that you don't see too often and you know and it was in him and he's just he's a good guy when this news came out everybody that knew him and I had no idea man the community that he had built with listeners. Both on the radio show and for this podcast so many people. He was talking to him on the phone on a regular basis. He would just you know. Get to uh-huh people online exchanged phone numbers with them and call them and have conversations with them and everything you know. NBC E touched a lot of lives so rest in peace to mark in San Diego. It just a great great dude and really a bummer. That he's left us and way way too soon Let's get into some of these emails before we wrap things up From Patriot page which you can be a part of Patriot dot com slash not sam wrestling For only less than dollar week. Four bucks a month you can get the podcasts early. You can get a mad free and you can get access to the discord room in bonus shows and the whole it's a it's a good deal. Joey says Sam. How do you think will remember November two thousand nineteen? When it's all said and done it might be the start of a new era and I'm excited that Awol it a fire under wwe because survivor shares was awesome? And I think we can expect more of that. You know I think that as I Said before I think that it will have keith lease stamps all over but I think I think that we will this. This will be the launch of Annex T. I think I think more than annex t coming to USA. I think that the energy that we feel about annex t based on what we've seen in November will kind of be attributed to annex t debuting on USA. But I think that this at the end of the day historically shortly speaking November twenty nine thousand nine. We'll be the month that made an x T. I think so you know and like I said it impacted raw too and I'm sure a lot will happen on smackdown but in terms of what was the biggest change. That's what I think Mitch emailed in if you WANNA email if you're not remember member of the Patriot on page. That's fine you can still contribute to our questions and whatnot you on email us. It's not sam wrestling at gmail.com. Just like that YouTube YouTube page YouTube dot com slash not sam wrestling Not Sam wrestling a g mail DOT COM. This is sent by Mitch. I'm a fan of Bray. Loved the new Gimmick but it has me thinking the When the time comes for why it's finally lose? He is going to get screwed over worse than any wrestler in history or his opponent will have to build an iron Tiran suit. I feel they have made him seem so invincible. The any clean loss will kill his character the NBA very unrealistic. How do you feel about that? You're killing it on the pre shows. You're the heat. You're getting reminds me of the nineties bobby. The Brain Heenan on commentary but with an edge. It's awesome awesome. Keep it up. I don't want to Put it up on a pedestal. Like that but I appreciate the compliment you know by your brain. Heenan his the goat You know I think okay I don't think there's any reason to be cynical about the Bray Wyatt character until there's a reason to be cynical about the bray white character. I think it just. I think it's just you right now. He's GONNA plow through everybody but eventually there will be somebody that can somehow figure out a way to get a victory over the feen and I talked about the horror movie analogy last week on the show that the fiend is a horror movie monster. You know horror movie monsters spend ninety minutes of the horror movie destroying everybody then somehow some girl find some way to kill that monster. But guess what they're ready to make a sequel and when they make the sequel ready for that monster to come back and spend another hour and a half killing everybody so if the scene follows the rules of horror movie movie monsters eventually he'll be able to take a loss and come back. Maybe not just as strong but still strong. There's some good horror movie sequels. You're probably thinking. Yeah I'll come back Jason X.. Jason Space now. WE'RE NOT GONNA go straight to ten drew checked in You didn't have a question or anything. But he's a youth pastor in Kansas and I helped bring him in closer on the same wavelength as the kids kids so I appreciate that drew. It's always great to hear stuff like that James sent an email to not sam wrestling G. DOT COM. Hey Sam have you heard this theory. The fiend causing a change in his opponents when he defeats them fim balanced rollins both turned heel and Daniel Bryan seems to be turning face again kind of makes sense with the he or heard gloves to do. You think there's something to that or just a coincidence. I think. Probably just a coincidence with Finn and with Sath because sets change was actually a month after he. He lost the feeling like those scenes. Those seeds weren't being planted until survivor series early in the night after survivor series. So that too much time had passed for me and Daniel Bryan was already kind of turning face before he faced the fiend and Jerry lawler's the same and he got attacked. So you know. I think that that's a really interesting concept. And I kind of enjoy that as a concept but I do think it just a coincidence and a lot of that is because that would be a very very difficult theme to maintain. Hey I appreciate you guys being part of the podcast this week. 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Rhea Ripley is NXT Women's Champion

Busted Open

43:08 min | 8 months ago

Rhea Ripley is NXT Women's Champion

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Jericho going up against jungle boy. How Chris Jericho once again is getting somebody over? Also we get into the main event of a w view and the attack of Scu and the young bucks with the dark order. Who are they? Did that segment come off. We'll talk about that. Also talk about eighty w an NFC who won the night and differences between the two brands. All that right now on the busted open pocket man. You started tonight for annex t with a takeover quality main event. Start the show with coal and Finn Vinh Bowel or and then you finish with a takeover quality main event with Shane Obeys Ler and Maria Ripley two amazing matches and now coming out. You have a new women's champion INRIA Ripley Irene. Listen Bay they say less is more more in pro wrestling and ninety nine percent of the time. They're correct so here's my breakdown on Raya Ripley. She's fucking over there you go. There's my take that's the end of that. That's all I have to say. I mean the way they set her up last night. For success. Success was perfect. I mean you if you WANNA take notes onto how to get a talent over. You're just watch that last match and I'm not necessarily talking about the match. I'm talking about what happened after the match with the crowd in the ring with the with the fans holding Ria Ripley up on their shoulder. That is how you get someone over you. Endear dear them to the audience after that shot last night after they went off the air. It's impossible for fans not to feel like they are apart of Ria Ripley success. She went out there. She looks the part. She's got that factor. She looks completely different than everybody. Nobody else she's got the size stature. The work rate and she went out there with with Basil last night and had a great match. A psychologically sound match natch one little hiccup that. I'll talk we'll get into but for the most part great job by both of those women and I really believe that the sky's why is the limit for Ria Ripley because when it comes to having that look and presence. She's she's she's there already. I mean you can stand her face to face with Charlotte right now and you have have something you could have her looking down at becky right now and you have something you can have her looking down at Sasha right now and you'd have something that's how far along rea- Ripley's and she's twenty three years old like she's just starting to be this over when in terms of pro wrestling bully. We talk about all the time they usually takes a while to reach these kind of heights. Look at look at somebody like Daniel Bryan. How long it took him all the work he got to put him before? Getting that moment at Wrestlemainia. Thirty re Ripley's twenty three. She's going to be doing it for another ten fifteen twenty years if she he wants to. It's amazing and you know we'll get into later because there's a part of me that thinks it might be a little too soon but that's looking back on it. Because I got caught up in the moment I got caught up during the match. First of all I always complain about that crowd. That's at full sail. That could be a little too smart for their own. Good even when there's a heel and face in the ring it seems split down the middle. How do you know Rio Ripley's over because you didn't have that last night there was nobody? Nobody cheering for. Shane obeys last night. Everybody in that building was behind a Ripley and you know you always talk about bully. WWe Is a baby face as company and they love. Those baby face champions that they could get behind. They have it with Ria Ripley. There's no doubt and the crowd last night was was was phenomenal. I thought the crowd last night was just as lively if not livelier than the AWA crowd. I mean that W cod was on fire for that first match. I felt they might have dropped off a little bit live and we do have somebody that tweeted us last night. who was in attendance? You said he's in a call into the show today to give us a firsthand first hand account. That'd be quite listen with Ria. It's just I mean there's not I didn't really I don't see any holes Holes in the game in her game right now and they're doing a phenomenal job of protecting her putting her in the right spots but she shining with they had ruined the leadoff position. Clean up no matter where they put her on that card. She's doing a great job. There was a part of the match that I had. I was scratching my head a little bit and I don't think I'm looking to deepen to this because I thought it was pretty obvious like to to get your take on it. Dave the get towards the end of the match towards the Finish and here is Shayna baiser. Who is a legit a fighter? Karan's yes a- bad ass Yup. She's got a rear naked. Choke Andrea Ripley. Yes she hooks folks. She Hooks to hold and she's got it cinched in these women are doing a phenomenal job of working that rear naked. Choke you you see rear ripley able to get to her feet. But then she asked the crumble back down because Shane Baiser cinches the whole back in you see Ria kicking around but then she uses her legs to kind of great viner. You see RIA get up to her feet again and almost make it to the ropes but Shane drops down pulls her back to the middle. They're working this hold so so well. They're working this hold as if they had been working together. Gather for twenty years. The progression of Ria finally going down and finally getting and choked out and the progression of Shayna cinching it in and cinching and more and now really having it hooked to the point where now they do the old old raise the hands and all of a sudden Ria is able within an instant to grab that referee and that was fine. I didn't have a problem with that. Because that's that's that burst of adrenaline. That went through rea- Ripley where she grabs Aref. And here she comes. She's GonNa get out of this she's going to get out of this and then all of assange she rolls back and the minute she rolls through and she's able to break the hold she's right back on feet and she starts stomping in a mudhole. Enchaine obeys and that's the part I did not like because if Shayna baseler a legit shoot fighter a legit bad ass as a rear rear naked choke on you for what seemed like a good minute or so. There's no way in hell. You can pop right back up and start stopping a mud mudhole. If she would've if real would rolled through popped up and then dropped like a desperation leg right across shane his throat and and they were laid there on a double down. That would have been a lot more believable to me show. I think I think they through all of that. Great work it out the window in that moment in time like I said I don't know if I'm picking because it was really obvious to me. I just wish they they would have sold the credibility of the hold from the credible shoot fighter a little and boy. I thought the same thing after she rolled out. Now I agree a kick to the head like you said it's just a sudden burst of energy. Get that kicked Ed. They both fall to the mat and exhaustion. Because obviously reas gotta start selling what just happened and speaking of selling I have to give and I did this last week as well and he did. Another phenomenal job on commentary last night. And that's Nigel McGuinness. Nigel McGuinness just from what you were describing was phenomenal on that call. He's begging the referee to go to the arm because he was actually afraid. Afraid that this is going to do damage to Ripley. I know we always talk about Mora Moro so over the top but I think you've noticed and unless we go we go off on Corey graves making those comments but since corey graves made those comments. I'm really starting to pay more and more attention to what Nigel. And I'm Beth been doing on commentary. They've both been great but Nigel. McGuinness has really stepped up. And you go back. Watch that match again and listen to Nigel. McGuinness McGinnis you can't find better commentary than what Nigel gave you last night on Monday night I took to social media and I put Samoa Joe over for his work behind the desk when it came to. Aj styles versus Randy. Orton and I believe. Joe Lynch so much credibility to that match a guy that it was in the trenches had been in there with both of those guys especially AJ styles and the way he was describing the hold especially the calf killer. Joe was doing a great job job of bringing me in an almost helping me to feel the pain. That Randy was in at that very moment by the way he described it conversely Nigel Nigel. Just like you said off the charts with the call me be a bit better than Moreo in that situation because Nigel Joel can bring me closer to the action with his knowledge of what it's like being in the middle of that ring so to me as announce wise this week. Samoa Samoa Joe and Nigel. McGuinness stood out head and shoulders above everybody else because of the credibility that they can lend to the action going on in the ring. It's just like in football. You know. Now we're getting closer to the postseason when you have guys who've actually played the game. Listen you have the season veteran play by play day but when you have that guy like Tony Romo Tony. Romo's been no situations. He knows what it's like to throw a touchdown to win a game. He knows what it's like to throw an interception. Believe leave me as a cowboy fan plenty of time. He knows what it's like to throw an interception to end the game. He's been there. He knows how it feels. Nigel McGuinness like you said in. That moment knows what it's like like to be in that position and he actually was concerned for rea- Ripley's health and that's why I think it brought a lot of attention to what you just said. Bully when you have. The commentator are actually concerned for rea- Ripley's health. And he's like he wants to go to the arm because this may be the end of that match and then five seconds later later. She's up on her feet and it's like you said she's kicking. Shane Obeys Ler. It's a it's a bit of a glitch. It's it's definitely a bit of a glitch and what it does is it hurts. Shane is Holt. And it hurts. Nigel's credibility because here's Shane of the legit bad ass with a rear naked choke. That obviously didn't work. And here's Nigel showing this concern. Four Ria Ripley. Who's been in the rear naked choke putting credibility beyond the hold putting credibility on his concern? And then all of a sudden boom we just pop out of it and we just went to the next thing like I said it's it was small but it was glaring. And this is this is the little things twenty or twenty three year. Old Woman should be sitting down with Shawn Michaels ankles and hunter and learned from this moment. A great great learning experience for her in that moment if she would have rolled through and just like dropped a desperation Hogan leg across the across. Shane obeys with his neck. SHAYNA would be forced to sell and RIA could've went back. Act Down to the selling the chokehold and the credibility would have been there and again. She's twenty three. She's only GonNa get better. which is amazing? Because she's at the top of everyone's game right now as most of us have found out the hard way getting into debt is easy. Getting out is hard especially especially if your credit score isn't great thankfully now there's upstart dot com the revolutionary lending platform. That knows. 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Shane obeys has been your annex. exte- women's champion. That's why that that win is so significant. That's something that the main roster has to do a better job of the longer you keep. Keep title on the champion. The more special the loss is GonNa be and they do that so well on an xt bullied. I think that the main roster can take a lot of notes from what's going on exte- like once again after watching an x t last night. I find myself saying to myself self. Annex T is by far the best brand underneath underneath the. WWe umbrella right now. And here's the crazy part. The talent on raw and smackdown technically is superior to the talent that is because they're seasoned veterans. You've been working for a long time. But this just goes to show you the differences in head coaches and how head head coaches use their talent. There's a reason why Bella Check has six Super Bowl rings because he knows to get how to get the most just out of his talent. Listen the Patriots have won. The super bowl would not necessarily the best individual players at every position right taste hundred percent but Bella check knows how to get the most out of them conversely you can take a head coach who might have a resounding adding resume but doesn't know how to get the best out of the players on the on the main roster. I'm not seeing nearly nearly the I don't see matches with as much drama as we saw last night. Like with Finn and Adam Cole Cole was so much drama in that match the false finishes were so good and so credible not only could I hear it in the crowd but I felt it within myself and I find myself laughing at myself because I'm getting sucked in. If you if you can can get me to buy into something you can get anybody to buy into something because I can see past the smoke and mirrors but the drama last asked night that they gave us in those matches. And I know we're sticking to the took coal and Fan Valor and Ripley unchain. Ah Baiser but throughout the whole night right. They did a great job with a priest and Killian Dane even Kushida versus the grimes grimes match. All of these matches. Good job if not great job with creating drama Why can't we create that same drama on the main roster? I gotTa tell you why Bali early and maybe we're getting a little deep but I think it's a conversation we need to have because what you just said is the biggest point of all annex t to me too is the best product at the. WWE has there's no show in my opinion that comes close like an annex t is head and shoulders above Monday night. Raw and smackdown. I I I would love to see what we see on exte- on Monday night raw but it will never happen. Here's why bullying I think it explains a lot of what we're kind of puzzled about when it comes to the main roster like you said getting drama. Annex T is a pro wrestling show uses all those simple elements laments that we've been used to for decades as pro wrestling fans the simple things I think that sometimes raw and smackdown back down almost too clever for their own good like it's too much of a variety show raw and smackdown are not pro wrestling shows. Am I wrong by saying NAT entertainment show. Yes and I think that's what the beer sports their sports entertainment shows that peppers in pro wrestling and I think they've been peppering in a lot more pro wrestling. Don't get me wrong. And normally we come on the show and we talk about the quality of the wrestling matches on raw and smackdown down. But I haven't seen anything on raw or smackdown that comes close to what I saw from Finn and Adam Cole or Rear Ripley and Shayna baiser now. Maybe we are getting those kind of matches on raw and smackdown but the crowds are as enthusiastic. Maybe the crowd crowd at full sail is superior to the crowds at raw and smackdown. Whatever it is perception is reality and the perception? That's coming across loss to me. Is that the talent in annex. T is doing better drop better job telling their stories and psychology in the ring and the crowd is more interested. And this this is what makes an x t a better pro wrestling show at times than a e w when it comes is to the in ring product and you gotTa go beneath the tip of the iceberg to know this it comes down to the agents it comes down to the guys and the gals there that are helping. The talent put the matches together. I see Shawn Michaels fingerprints anger prints on a lot of things. It's glaring to me when you have people like Sean or hunter and I believe hunter has his hand in just just about every single match whether it's one idea whether it's being an agent for entire match when you have talent like that and Dan Road Dogg. Think about it Sean. Road Dogg and Hunter as agents. Those guys know just about everything there is to know how about the psychology of match how to put a match together false finishes entertainment which one of those three guys does not knowhow to tear the house down. None of them. They're all they all know how to do it. Exactly and now. They're instilling all of that knowledge into the performers and you see see it coming across in their matches and that is an incredible team effort right there now just last night. Did I see TAG team matches. That listened to the referee and adhered to the rules. I'm hoping that the talent talent in e w especially younger talent. Start listening to the billy. Guns Start Listening to Jerry. Lynn's start listening to the eighteen Milongo's because if you WANNA have a great wrestling match and understand the psychology of the moves in the middle of the ring. I'm sure Dean Milenko can help you with. That couldn't yeah of course if you want to know how to be really really entertaining. I'm sure Billy Gunn can teach you how to do that. Percents one hundred percent and everywhere in between these guys can help. So when I'm watching some eighty w matches I can tell that those wrestlers are going out there. Just doing what they think is the right thing to do. And I'm not saying that they shouldn't do those things I'm saying that they need to listen to the veteran voice. A little little bit more to help them with their psychology. There needs to be somebody that says all right settled down like I love what I saw. But here's where you can make this a little bit better settled down. And I don't know that they're if they're listening if they're not listening. I know that everybody made a big deal but Jericho having closed door meeting and everything else I like that about you. Know getting these guys. Hey the honeymoon periods over now we need to step up the small things and as we're saying those small things at the end of the day are gonNA mean a lot down the road and then going back to annex t and how you said they can build the drama nothing on annex t is silly nothing on Annex T. He is wasted especially back when that show was just an hour long. They didn't have time for Filler. There's no filler. Like you always say no. You know no filler. All killer. That's it's kind of like motto. It seems every single Wednesday and you mentioned Kushida and I'll go back to that cameron grimes because she match if you look Coscia. He's got that back to the future. Gimmick right if he was on the main roster they would make sheet all about that Gimmick you would forget get about the man who's the wrestler and it would be all about the gimmick. I think that's the biggest difference between annex t and the main roster the biggest difference between the main roster an annex t comes down to two people dave and you know it comes down to Vince McMahon and his vision and triple leitch and his vision and the other night. I went on social media and I talked about how creative must not be listening to the pop that Matt Hardy gets when he comes out and somebody went on social media. Some dude he said I it how people hide behind the word creative when they really mean. Vince McMahon man. If I truly meant Vince McMahon in that moment I would have mentioned vincis name. 'cause I don't hide behind anything. I was making a blanket statement about Matt Harvey and creative listening because it's all of creative because there's so many people involved there with creative when it comes down to the visions of the shows. It does rest on Vince and hunter. Why is one show? Technically why is the and I don't think annexed is the minor leagues. But I'm just GONNA use this term. Why is the minor league show? Perceived moved to be so much superior or so far superior than the major league. Show if you don't know Sirius. XM THAN LISTEN UP Commercial Free Music Plus sports comedy talk and news. They had it all a lot of people. Think you need a car to enjoy Sirius. Xm But you don't. You can listen outside the car right now you can get your first three months of Sirius. Xm outside the car for just just one dollars just go to Sirius. Xm Dot com slash busted to see offer details and to subscribe. You can listen on your phone at home and online that Sirius. Xm Dot com slash plus did offer available to new series exemptions subscribers siriusxm no car required fear of the dark fear of the dark order and we saw them after after that main event last night. On a W Bowie. What did you think of it? I liked it. I liked it I first of all I liked the match between Scu and the young box as you mentioned earlier. I love the fact that The young bucks did lose and the young bucks are just seeing the beginning. Everybody over at this point because I think going in they're regarded as the greatest tag team right now and then outcomes the dark order and again. You're seeing it bill to get bigger. You saw the two I guess Enhancement Hansen towns from last week that lost now in the ring becoming a part of this group and Jr talking about what was around that bend in the arena. Lina with join dark order DOT com. I don't know who would do that. I mean that's just crazy going to a website and joining the dark order but simple to do that. And why do I have a funny feeling somebody on this show want to be a member of the dark. Maybe you don't know you never know but anyhow anyhow I really liked that and again. They're building something of their own. We talked about like everybody knows Jericho. Everybody knows Moxley. Everyone knows Omega. Ah They have to build their youngstown. They did it last night with jungle boy in the first half of that show and they're doing it with the dark order in the main event last night couple of hits couple of Mrs with dark order last night and I'll break down first of all the dark water week after week. I've been talking about on the show. Because as they have me intrigued and they had me invested with all the great vignettes that they've been doing kind of reminds me of scientology judge and the the cult esque feel that scientology has and the the the the mind control all that scientology has on people. And I'm getting that vibe from the dark order and I've loved what they've done by keeping the dark water off of television lesion lot of mixed emotions last night when it came to the end of the show I saw the creepers come over the rail. Okay Bat that looked cool I see Scu and the bucks who just went at it now standing back to back with one another because they are friends and they're going to protect each other and I see all of the creepers jumping the four guys. I don't know who the creepers are. Now I know that four guys in the ring are very accomplished pro wrestlers who can defend themself. Now I get Chris Daniels sitting the ring now. I get Kenny Omega hitting the ring. Now I got cody and Dustin hitting the ring. The numbers game really doesn't come into play after all of these guys are in the ring. I have these. Nobody's under masks dropping every legitimate bad ass in a e W now I know they're trying to get them over but am I think that the guys that are underneath these masks are stronger and more accomplished and better fighters than those nine guys that were in the ring by. Here's the thing bully. That's I'M GONNA I'm GonNa go on the other side. This is where I disagree with you. That's what I liked about what I saw last night because the dark there they want you to fear the dark order so the fact that these creepers can beat the shit out of like you said a Kenny. Any Omega Cody and Dustin Rhodes you know. If if here's the thing if if they all if they all ranted ring and and ran the dark order off then that's like the chicken shit. He'll that's not what the dark orders supposed to be there supposed to dominate right. Now I agree with you. One hundred percent but the the sides hides were equal. You know what I would have loved to have seen a second wave of dark order. Once the the first wave of dark order hit and then all of the w guys were to even the odds now it would have been even now the two remain dark order guys come out okay. The Evil No. I'm sorry I forgot the other dudes name and they announce announce the rest of the dark order and now there would have been this massive flooding of more dark order guys. I would have liked to have seen fifty fifty dark order. guys the understand what I'm saying. The first wave hits and now here come all the baby face runnings to defend their friends but now how to masterminds come out and a second wave even more dark order guys come and hit the ring to lay everybody out. I would've layered appeared that because since I don't know who. The dark order guys are under the hoods to me. I just wrestling fans. Who Haven't been accepted did their whole life who have dedicated themselves to the dark water? Am I to believe that. He's wrestling fans or these. Nobody's are tougher than the bucks tougher than Esi. You who tougher than Kenny. Tougher than cody tougher than Dustin. That was destroyed but numbers game can always win. I would have loved to seeing the second wave that massive wave of dark order guys. That's just what I would have done also last night. Was it about initiation right. Yes you had the to quote unquote job guys getting initiate into the darker. They had earned their colors. They had earned their stripes types. They had earned their cut before they could put those hoods on. I would've loved to see. The two guys getting initiated. Do Do the final act of violence like the dark order should have held up one of those sacrificial lambs they could have been Matt. Nick Cody Kenny. It didn't matter and then the Alex the Alex Kidd does the final blow to one of them turn earn his right to finally be initiated in and after he I don't know kicks in the balls then he gets his mask and then and the other kid does something dastardly to another one of our beloved baby faces and then he gets his mask. I didn't feel like the initiation revolved around those two guys. Those two guys felt like they were part of everybody else and got lost in the in the shuffle. So those are the little changes inches that I would have made last night in the dark order to make it feel bigger and more of a spectacle. Did I like it. Yes that I love it not really but I did love the way they went off the air I love the way they all were huddled together and there was. They were chanting their their mantra or whatever they were saying altogether because in that last scene I felt like the dark order was one. And that's my take on the and I liked it. You had the blood on his hand and he's holding up Matt Jackson's blood on his end. That was a cool way to sign off. And then I go to social media Kinda just get a feel and and there's people who liked it and people who hated it and I think a a big reason why people may not be connecting with it is because it's new and they don't know anybody in the a group and it's something that's just different and I think it's GonNa take a little while for people really to start the buying and I think a w's done a tremendous job with it the vignettes going into what we saw. I liked the fact that they have this website. That fans could actually join the dark order. I mean I think Aka W is doing everything right in the concept of. What's going on with something? That's brand new to Asia. W anybody who is saying that after last night that they don't light. Listen if you don't like it you don't like what can I tell. You can't tell you that you're wrong the trail and the way you do but I will say this when dark water order I came on that show ten eleven twelve weeks ago I said who are these guys. They don't belong here because they look like glorified indie guys who got the job. Because they were friends with the bucks basically that's what it was but they found a way to hone this story and get it over through vignettes yet through storytelling it through Tareyton development. It's about as old school as you can get. They've done a very very good job with it. Last night we get our we get like a reveal and we get our first taste of dark water and despite the fact that I liked it I thought a little bit more thought could've went into getting getting them over to. I think they got over last night. Yes do I think they maximize the potential of them getting over. No because like I said that numbers game to me was glaring too. Many strong baby faces getting beaten down by basically an equal number. Uh of creepers if I get a second wave of creepers led by evil and his partner. Wow now it's like how many of these guys are there. And that's where the dark water can say. Our numbers are much bigger than anybody knows. You have no idea how many dark order or already a part of us and because you don't know who anybody is and you always talk about like when Roman reigns is getting beat down like nobody comes out. Obviously we had people come come out. But there was somebody that we didn't see in that whole scenario and that was hangman page and again great storytelling. Because we got the first opening match. That's where hangman page and Kenny Omega tagging they lose the match and you could see the dissension. We know that hangman page is no longer part of the elite and now we get to the end and we're hangman pages. Didn't even come out to help as fans again. A little bit of a cliffhanger there too that makes you on a tune into next week and if memory memory serves me correct. Was it page. Closed Line Omega by mistake. Yep so why would page so upset Omega. Didn't do anything wrong. Peijun agent Omega made. It seem like Omega is the one that closed line pages off but it was vice versa. So I'm not quite sure. Why pages so pissed now? The other thing. Oh Alex what'd you. Yeah well also too. I don't know if you guys caught this. But after that match at the open of the show during the commercial break with the picture in picture pock kind of goes to the back and goes to Jack Michael eckel Nakazawa which gets Kenny. All up in a rush and he goes into the back once he gets back there he gets met by the Luther Brothers again and hangman actually helps him there. He helps helps fight off the luther bars and he's sitting there with Kenny. WHO's beat up really bad? But then that's the last we hear of Adam page for the night so it's almost like they came to a truce but when it came to helping with at the dark order pages kind of like you know what this is where I sit out. Maybe he had a redeye brother. And you know maybe. Maybe he wasn't in. He had a plane catch. But here's where it's good storytelling. And you know you can always go back to this to hangman page. got that got that opportunity early going up against Chris Jericho. Oh I E W champion baby. Being the first eighty w champion when this show started in week one didn't happen and let's face it hangman pages kind of on the outside looking in when you look at that inner circle of of cody and Dustin in the box and and Kenny Omega which is you know hangman hangman pages. A little bit on the outside looking in when it comes to that to that core group so I can understand some dissension. Another good story that was told is that we saw Christopher Daniels. What was that two weeks ago not exactly a stellar effort in the ring that came into play last night where now you're starting to see? Maybe maybe Christopher Daniels is starting to doubt himself again. I love the fact. They took something that a lot of people on social media absolutely killed and now how they're playing it out where Christopher Daniels could be doubting himself and then also comes into play on commentary with Jim. Ross Jim Ross has been getting a a lot. I think it's unfounded I. It's it's it's it's completely disrespectful but a lot of people have been hard on. Jr when it comes to his commentary and he has has that he plays into that he talks about that on commentary again a lot of realism. And what we're seeing in Asia w from week in and week out and you know it's unfortunate what goes on with the whole JR situation. Sometimes people are hard on him despite the fact that he's doing his absolute best work. He's doing a good job. Bob The bottom line. I like Jim. Ross a lot better than w than I liked him with new Japan because it's more on his wheelhouse of storytelling and not just talk about moves. Unless Dave when when it comes to social media I mean I think you would agree with us like social media has made too many people comfortable with disrespecting respecting other people with no consequences. You know too. Many people are disrespecting one another and not getting punched in the mouth for it. That's the way I look at got it. You know you just go out there and say whatever you want you know with no repercussions I want to get back to the dark water for a second. You know the points that I've been making about them is only is is if I would have done it to make them better. I think this gimmick has legs a lot of legs I can see this. I could Z.. An entire arena of fans wearing dark order masks. I could see people pledging their allegiance to the dark order Allah you you know. Join the dark joining the dark. What I like the little subliminal messages throughout the show? They're taking an act that nobody gave a chance at the beginning including myself and they're getting it over. I like it because there's so much potential. There's so many options nations with it and when you have wrestlers that you're not quite sure what you should do with. You can always make them a part of the dark order order but come on last night with the initiation they. Wouldn't you like to see the Alex Reynolds Kid and the other guy have to do something where the spotlight was on Them to complete their initiation. Yeah and it wouldn't make sense in the whole initiation process. You have to do something even a little bit extra like in that position. Dan would have given them a little bit of a spotlight but then again. Here's a guys that we're losing and now are part of this and probably are going to be people that were gonNA remember their names and talk about them on a weekly basis acis. It was built as an initiation last night. and to me if you're gonNA initiate guys let's let's it's not so much about putting the spotlight on them mm-hmm as much as this spotlighting the initiation and what. It's like to get the mass. I like that bully if you highlight the initiation in process. That's something that you could see more on a weekly basis. You're absolutely right. Thanks for listening catches Monday through Saturday. I'm busted open from nine. AM to noon soon. Eastern on Sirius X._M.. By Nation Channel One fifty six then busted open podcast.

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"If you don't know Sirius. XM THAN LISTEN UP Commercial Free Music Plus sports comedy talk and news. They have it all and right now you can get your first three months of Sirius. Xm outside the car for just US one dollar go to SIRIUSXM DOT com slash busted to see offer details and to subscribe offer available to new series. Xm streaming subscribers SIRIUSXM. No car required. This is the busted open podcast. You can listen to the full show Monday through Saturday from nine. Am To noon eastern on Sirius Awesome Channel One fifty six all right welcome in busted open nation here on a Saturday his time for another addition of bust. Open radio here on a weekend. It's the podcast edition. I'm euros Ryan McConnell. I got Mark Henry joining me. Well he's not joining me for this preview right now instead cut the very trustee gabby on the ones and twos. Gabby we have a great podcast lineup for our fans today. First of all mark and I get into Daniel Bryan and the feed. And that's I mean. That's understandable. Understandable is the main event of last night smackdown. It is also the title match heading into Sunday. Excitement is high would say I cannot wait to watch this match On Royal Rumble. Because the fiend signed the contract with blood. Guys there's a lot of terrifying it's terrifying. It's real it's well as Edmark says and you'll find out in this podcast. It's a bit of an old school approach to pro wrestling which we always love here on busted. Open speaking of things. Mark at has thoughts on Lacey Evans pro last night. Gaby first of all Everyone on this show loved it. The problem I think with Lacey Evans isn't so much lacy racy it's more piggly this continuing narrative of her heel character. Bailey a I should say gabby. I'M NOT BUYING IT I. I'm pretty sure you're not Buying and I guess we'll have to wait and marcus thinking. Yeah Yeah I mean Lacey Evans. Promo last night. I was almost in tears. It was emotional. She's a beautiful baby face. She's limitless as mark mark set but Bailey not buying so much we gotta see what's going to happen between these two. We gotTa Start Start Calling. Stop calling other limitless when we know damn well there's only one person who's limitless in the WWe universe and that is the one and only Keith lead from annex t he world rumble winner not really sure but we do know one thing annexed. He is on fire liar and as always here on Saturday. So we're going to give you guys our weekly winner Gabby you heard from mark. But I'm very curious. We'll do it right now. In this little podcasts preview. What was your weekly winner? From this week I weekly winner was the same as yours guys which was don Don Don an xt reasons as to why you guys both pick. That ought to listen right now here. I'M NOT GONNA get away call. That's what we call it. Tease at speaking of teases. You're going to get all of that in this next hour including a royal rumble full preview. Because well it's royal rumble weekend and that's what we do right here on busted open radio. Let's get it going. Brian Getting stabbed in the hand and inciting contract in blood bark. We were talking a little bit before the show. We both agreed. That was our favorite moment from smackdown last night. And what I really liked about and this is something you really hit on it. I think you're spot on it. It had that old school feel it had that I know it had. I don't WanNA use the word fun because obviously it wasn't fun for Daniel Bryan but it just feels like one of those moments and that's when I'll say this is what I really enjoy about seeing bunk on backstage he. He's very critical but he also has talked about at different points. It's how moments like this. You have to suspend disbelief and you have to Kinda almost. What would this be like if you were eleven years old again watching pro wrestling? This is what I feel like. Those seminal Oh moments mark that that fans will look back on for years to come and be I remember that was real that that's what it took my interest level up in even other notch for this Daniel Brian this fiend Showdown yeah I'm excited man. It's been a while since Those are old school match that the had like that old school type of field to it and I think that like the stabbing the hand. Yeah and sign on and blood is like nineteen eighty eight. I mean it was. It made you go. Why can't way to see how this is going to play out you know? And it's hard to get that feeling now. What also feels like something the fiend would do right? I mean we're talking about a psychopath and we're we're we've been talking about. I mean this started in the summer mark is has been a thing. This thing has been going on now for months and months and months. It feels like that was the next logical step like he's been a menace. He has been a terrifying force of nature right. He's withstanding dozen kirbs Thompson. He's become you know the champion and he's doing incredible things. There's no question right but that that that that horror story sort of I dunno side piece to it all the the next step up in serious next to the next level the blood and guts of it all. We need to kind of get there and I feel you'll like that was one of those moments where you like all right. You really paid attention to it and as you said it had that old school field but it but it was good to see that that danger level kicked up a notch. Yeah I wanted to see that I don't I don't want this to be I don't want the theme to become a normal occurrence. Hopefully elite at the way that this ends the fien kind of disappears Because I won't. I WanNa really really good saga but I want to see. I don't want it to be trivialized and I think that if you get too much of the fien We'll start to get bored with it and want to see him. I'm have typical normal matches and this strap match is not typical or normal There's so many things that could be done done. Because of the fact that they're linked together and is as for lack of a better term. Oh you WANNA get real will last night it got real. Yeah did obviously. We're talking about the blood on the contract but also the the whips from the strap like that was if you say that was real and it just I felt like it took this rivalry to another level. I mean on some in some instance right but I still don't. I still don't know no how Sunday is going to go. Mark because on one hand adding to the the calming thought is that the fiend is going to rain until until Wrestlemainia like. That's the moment where you would have. The fien be conquered the biggest stage Miami. Everyone's watching it's this continuation or this this this closing of the story that it is run for months and months and months on end but you know as well as I do. Mark is something's predictable. That's all the more reason for Vince and the WWe to throw us a little bit. Of A swerved served to throw us a little bit of a curve ball so I could also see on some of Daniel Bryan going out and being the foil that the fiend found sound right or the the the thing is that sort of attitude that sort of you know strap me down. There's nothing that you can do. I've taken it all. I've seen it all. I'm generational wrestler. I'm going to show you you were dangerous. I'm GONNA show you. What violence is? I'm going to take it from the BINGO halls. I'M GONNA take it from you know the American dragging I'm GonNa show you what pro wrestling can be. I just and that's what's exciting. I don't know where Sunday is going to go now. I actually think Ryan that you watch a horror movie and in a horror movie. There's no oh real affinity for the monster. You WanNa see the moss to do what chase you wanna Wanna see the monster hunt and as it gets wrestlemainia. Don't you think it would be better to see a monster hunting rather than and standing with the title. It just doesn't make sense so you know when you start saying okay. Let's break this down and make this a story that we can really think our teeth into Dan you. Brian has to win. And he's the guy at Wrestlemainia Nia that not only fain is honey but brock listeners hunting or whoever wins the royal rumble. or I mean me there. There's such a multitude of things that could happen With that happening and I think that that's what will happen. I think that Dan Brian will find a way a really sick and creative way of not allowing the team to. He's already said there's no mind games he said you match. I told you before you match crazy with crazy. And what does he done. He has went completely unorthodox in his delivery and he's attacking the theme. He's going after the fan. He's he wants to be in a strap match tied to the theme. Come on man like that's that's that's what was needed and that's where we're going to get. Well I as we're sitting here talking about the fiend and Daniel Bryan. I guess my question would be mark is that about. I don't know I think it was two weeks ago. rambler rabbit gave a a teaser in one of the packages that we're doing in the firefly funhouse house route like Daniel Daniel. The fiend does have a weakness. And I'm going to tell you about it and obviously rambling ramic gets done away with before he can get the the words out but I guess mark on life support right right but the teas there is that there is a weakness to the fiend. There is a way to beat the fiend. There is the secret out there. They're the only Bray Wyatt in the fiend and the people in the firefly funhouse. No we haven't figured out what that what that weakness is so common logic at least is to me. Mark would suggest that we kind of got to know what that weakness is before the fiend has conquered. You know what I'm saying like that's going to be the key to conquering the fien now. Maybe Daniel Bryan finds that out through the of course this match. That's entirely possible I just I don't know man I feel like I feel like defend is going to retain for that reason. I think we need to find out what that weaknesses I. I think. It's the element of surprise. You take away the fiend and Daniel Bryan. I think is figured it out. Like if you have the fien able to appear in disappear. That's an unbelievable weapon and it Kinda invokes votes A nervous feeling The Mind Games if you will To perform that he's facing Dan was gonna be tied to him. Six feet away. He can't disappear. He can't go nowhere and I think like with that now Daniel. There's there's no surprising Daniel whatever happens. The Daniel is going to happen to him if they jump off if they they climb and and Go Up to the top of the tron and jump off. They're both going to jump off. Yeah you get what I'm saying. Dan Yeah if if the if there's a scaffold or ladder of If they fight to the end of the Earth if they jump off they both go together so I think that that's that's kind of like the secret like you take away the element of surprise and you making a ground base match and you match crazy with crazy and see what we get. I like I like another thing that I like and I don't know if you saw this Daniel. Brian's got a new shirt out as we sit here talking about Daniel Bryan and he's got this new release. He sent a tweet out yesterday and said today. My new shirt has come out one that. WWe made out of organic cotton and recycled materials. And and thanks to a partnership with American forests a tree will be planted for every shirt sold. It's a great shirt and here's what I liked though about this Mark is that. Okay okay. Good I'm I'm glad they like being in an environmentalist and trying to save the planet is now a baby face move because swift. He was healing and he was doing the new. Daniel Your Bryant. They made it to where like trying to save. The planet was a bad thing. I just I just got bench that I'm glad I'm glad saving the planet again is a baby face. Move that I just the caveat that makes me happy heading into royal rumble. You know what that's something that I hadn't thought about That is a very very unbelievable. Take Man I look at you. Look at the big brain on the big brain on Brad. Now now you're GonNa be doing movie quotes and man and we also speak in a movie quotes you have set some people out there. Mark Andrew. I don't know if you saw this tweet from an account out there that said Eh tagged you. Most of us work Monday through Friday. The show talking about bad boys was sold out in every theatre last week and in yesterday this afternoon was the first chance to watch it for a lot of people. There was no need to spoil the movie like that Mark. Come on mark. I didn't spoil the whole thing but I listen you. You GotTa have have your priorities intact. Sir Or Ma'am. Whoever sent that tweet out that's up to you take a day off you? You probably went out God liquor up and all of that stuff that people do on the weekend like now. Have your priorities straight. Go see the movies. He's that come out when they come out so you don't get the spoiler alert when the man delorean came out boom. I watched it the same day that the that it came out. Every Friday when star wars came out boom I was at the theater that night. Like so. Listen that's all you don't put it on me. It's been ten days it's been how dare you call yourself a real bad boys fan and you've waited over a week to see the greatest movie of Twenty Twenty Michael You're hearing catch busted. Is it open live Monday through Saturday from nine. AM to noon eastern on Sirius. XM Fight Nation Channel One fifty six or on demand with the Sirius. XM APP the attack Bailey on lacy mark. This is something Listen we're GONNA hear from Lacey and a second with that great promo she cut in case. You guys didn't hear it last night but we've been talk about it. It's always best when you can mix realism into the business of professional wrestling. The more you can be yourself for the more you can pull from real life. Experiences The better for your character. You're in the better in the long run that you're going to be especially if you can be honest about it and and and we saw that last night With Lacey again. We'll hear from that. That's Promo in a second but I do you WanNa start a little bit with Bailey because this is theoretically a major. He'll move right just going after the kids. She's going after the kid she's going after Lacey. She's getting impersonal. She's attacking you know our history all of those things even with all of that said mark an Gabby you can chime in on this. Well let me actually let me start with Gabby Gabby did anything Bailey. Doing doing in the last couple of weeks because you've been critical of this he'll turn. I've been critical of this turn. I still don't think it's catching on. I still don't buy it and for me that's problematic. Is there any party you gabby. That's coming around to this. Not really and I. I'm really trying I really am. You know she came out and attack. It's just like one of those things I I don't think it's ever GonNa catch on for me just because I'm on attached to her as a heel but on the opposite end lacy is gaining such baby buffets momentum that no question so it's almost the opposite end of the spectrum so to a certain degree because Lacey's becoming such a baby face. I guess it's just making. Can you dislike Bailey. But I don't when there's a good he'll I still like them because they're hill. You know like Bailey as a character at all because now just like I just one I see Louis like I don't even care the fact that the oh go ahead mark this this this whole thing with lacey though is bringing is bringing a Bailey to the forefront as A. He'll I mean like the even the stuff with her daughter Her being able to come out and have some intensity in in in the match is the best that has been this is the best version of Bayer we've had and I think is growing and is because of who she's got the work. Yeah I gotta be honest Lacey. Well well I will agree with you on this mark. It is the best that Bailey has been as a heel and that is in large part as you just talked about the the absolute success. That lacey is finding as mega like a baby face. But I still don't think it's good mark and that's a problem because we at least as far as I'm concerned right like because it gives Gaby Right. We knowledge that Lacey is doing incredible working baby face but if it's still and again yes this is the best. Bailey is ever been in terms of yield. But it's still not resonating at a level as which it should when you have this mega baby face like lacy and I mean anyone could heal against that So I that measuring stick. It's not enough for me mark. It's just I I have a lot of. It is the HE'LL WANNA one is not happening with right. WH- Bailey's doing and the number one thing is. They need to start right away as soon as in this match that they have Bailey and Lazy AC somehow in in this with this match Sasha is going to have to be like what are are you waiting on. beat her already. And there's some kind of thing between those two where she goes. Why didn't you beat her? When you had the opportunity to Peter and and and then they make up give them let these two heels? That's supposed to be best as friends. Get into it but not get into it and hug and now you get heat from. We're we're almost got it now. We didn't and you take it away. That's that's what gives eat and that's not being done is why we don't feel the way that we wanna feel about Bailey Well that's what the show's all about going to give a heat and levels and the level of heat right now on skill to one to ten is about a four and should burn is should fine. Yep I was just GonNa say this is tailor made for a niner. It's in especially with the work Lacy is doing it. Speaking of the work lacy is doing. Let's hear from Lacey last night Lacy Evans on smackdown. I'm cutting a baby face promo whereas talked about a blending the realism and the and the real life Storytelling that can. They can so very much benefit any any wrestler. Well it just so happens. That Lacey Evans has a lot of real life to pull from and she pulled from. Its Last night this was Lacey Evans down. Well I didn't have the easiest upbringing growing join up. My father suffered and worked so hard with a diction and depression and he lost that battle. And it's something I I deal with every single day. It's something that I use with this platform in this company to show the entire world that it does not matter the cards. Oh you were dealt in your life that you can stack that deck in play. Whatever you set your mind to and I'm not done because that is the hardest part about being in this position is knowing what they're doing knowing what the world is going through knowing that I have a chance to set the proper example and show them that it does not matter what you're going through you can make it and I made it and there's it's nothing that you can accomplish? If you set your mind to Lacey Evans. Yeah man that heavy duty and and it was great from the standpoint that now you know why she was so effective as a heel. And it's not. It's not that that's who she really was. No no no no no no. It's that she. He is so clearly dedicated to being a pro wrestler. Mark you can speak to this. You hear a promo like that. This early in this young woman's career this bodes so well for her future in the sense that number one she can deliver a promo like that period that she's willing to go there that she's willing to share share that life experience and bring it to the public and make it a part of her character but number two that she delivers it with that sort of emotion with that sort of levity and can hit you you in the fields as they say right Lacey That was a benchmark moment for Lacey Evans. Lacy feels a responsibility to not only herself. And what she's done. She said I made it. She is a success she is known owned by millions of people from where she came from Rome. It should not happen. It shouldn't happen and she's telling people full stop having parties. Yes didn't go right for you. You weren't born with the upper hand. You don't have anybody nobody to rely on except for yourself. There's no safety net if I fail Get caught and I'll bounce back. People like myself people lacy if you fail you really really fail because there was nowhere else for me to go those no other place for her to go. And there's a there's more people like that than there are people that have the safety mechanism in case of emergency urgency break Glenn. We'll fix all ship. That's going on with you. Yes yes that's all of those people rise up from it. I did it. There are other people have done it. You can do it. And that makes us successful baby face But it also makes a great deal. Because I'm GonNa tell you something about success. Success feels good success. Success is Gratifying glorifying you. Get attention that you wouldn't have got you feel special you get VIP treatment and before you go back to not being to being exit -nificant or being not thought about you rather somebody else take pain in order for you not to. And she knows what that is but she went to the military and she made a name for herself in the military. And I love the fact that she's inspiring not only women she's not only inspiring young girls but she's telling some of these men get off your ass and don't be so down on yourself that you let Everybody else would be affected like I did. You can do it and I love a message and I love where she's coming from. Yeah I and and I'm with you I just a again it. Just it had the perfect feel to it and it was delivered with conviction and it pulled from prior experiences. It's everything that you want in a good Promo Promo ad and it takes a person wrestler in in a an athlete to be able to execute in Lacey Evans. Really well done really well done last night on smack that which and Baker. WWe burnt right. Sure we always will always shit on the WWF booking and While they missing the boat doing this they got it right. They got it right. Why why why is it? We don't see all the tweets of men that segment relates. The Evans was really strong. I'm so proud that the wwe had gave them the time to be able to do that right and not try to rush through it and gloss over it the the whole the whole meaning for that that whole segment was to get that Promo out everything else that came with it were secondary and they did a hell of a job with that and I always want to point out when people do a good job absolutely and I. I don't think it's the people I saw plenty of people Praising lacy did last night. I think it's the issue of social media. I think it's an issue of just the Times that we're in in the way we have to digest information I always felt that they're not just now. But I'm just saying it's amplified now that the negativity always sticks around a little bit longer. You hear it a little bit louder. Because it's easier to latch onto a specially in twenty twenty. But but mark I don't I don't think there was many people out there. I the only critique I've heard about Lacey and this character and I listen I I think it's a fair critique but I think it's also too early in the character to really latch onto it and that is this idea that they're gonna make her another other Hogan that the that she's just going to be this kind of embassador of the military and she's GonNa be this pro America figure where they don't focus enough on that backstory in the personal stuff if she's went through you know what I'm saying like she's going to be a mouthpiece for the United States military. That's not exactly how I see it and also I mean how are you. What are you going to not mention her military? The experience in in in in the case of building her baby face character. I think that would be a huge mistake. So Yeah I don't think there's a lot you can say negatively towards Lacey Evans in this whole all this whole development of her baby face character. No not at all I mean she. She's a tailor made for even if it was even if it it was what she was meant for is the beam take on the beacon of being a star wars for the military right good. That's fine nine is good. That's all fine and good but I see more from her. I see her being Atypical baby face. But also we'll see her being the baby face. That is not going to be out there crying every week. She's going to be the baby face. We're going to see you're gonNA slap her face and she's going to strike strike fear in the heart of you when you do it and you talk about comebacks brother. I see that woman becoming Ricky steamboat. As far as a comeback. She's got it. I can't wait to see her because I want to tell a look that that that passion please show me that in your comeback. Show me that when you when you fire up. Guy Risk is so rocky. Johnson had the best S. fire up in the history of fire and turned up the whole point of him putting his fist on his head and pulling down to the ground. Like I'm taking the veil off like this is who I really am. That's what I WANNA see out of her and I'm GonNa tell when I see her and hopefully somebody that's a friend. Friend of hers is listening to this show and will let her know that. That's something that's coming down the pipeline but as a baby face. She's limitless Ellis. She's she could grasp from anybody. And be any baby-faced style baby phase that there's ever been and you can't say that for everybody pretty baby phase right now. WWe If you don't know Sirius Xm than listen commercial free music plus sports comedy talk and news. They have it all a lot of people. I think you need a car to enjoy Sirius. Xm But you don't. You can listen outside the car right now you can get your first three months of Sirius. Xm outside the car for just one dollars just go to SIRIUSXM DOT com slash busted to see offer details and subscribe. You can listen on your phone at home and online that Sirius. Xm Dot com slash busted offer available to new series Xm streaming subscribers versus Siriusxm. No car required. What time is it Winter what's the landscape of pro wrestling is involving which means more options for fans so many cities Mark Henry and rhyme. mckinnell are here to answer the difficult questions. What what was the best show this week? You're the weeks over so get over. This is the busted open weekly winter. We had a week in pro wrestling. Obviously we're coming off a few hours removed of smackdown. It was a fine show so it was a fine show but it was a typical. Go home show not too much right to to build up. Obviously the payoff is going to be this weekend. Raw continues to be great rate I'm absolutely loving Samoa. Joe and Kevin Owens as this baby. Face wrecking machine tag team. I don't know what the hell they're doing. But I've been been loving that but mark is so often the story here on weekly winter. There's just there's two companies or two companies but Brands that's really seemed to be head and shoulders above everyone else. And I think it's the way they construct their matches very match centric very in ring centric in terms of their storytelling. And that's a W T and mark I've been going back and forth on these two. It's seemingly it does it pretty much feels like every week that it's either one or the other. Yeah yeah it does You both shows are in such a war type of mentality and I and raw and smackdown are trying to see who has the best. Entertainment value and power. Is that force that we look at as the nostalgic field pro wrestling and air nine. Then we'll get a sprinkle from one of the other companies They'll just put together such a hell of a show that they get into running. But this week I think there's more of the same rain is coming. A common occurrence is the AWS connects. Yeah I'm I I'm having a hard time picking and even up until right now. There's there's there's this real very real part of me that wants to give it a tie where I just want to say you know what They AINU close. I know I can't. I can't because let's ricky bobby except it's no hell no rookie. Bobby wouldn't accept the spirit animal for this is what we say every single week. If if you're not first you're last so man hi This is so tough. I guess I'm going to say an X.. T I know this is like the most half assed like lack of conviction type of unveil for weekly winter but it just it it when you enter into show right with Keith Lee holding a title. I don't care what that title is. It could be Burger King Champ. Do not give a shit. I am fully invested tested in Cleveland fully invested in Keithly and to see him get kind of his first tip of the CAP. That moment was just a little too strong for me to ignore and if I was going to give a w that means I would be giving it to. Aws a week where keithly won his first major title. I'm not GonNa do that so just based on that alone mark. I have to give the nod this week to to annex t and keithly really walking away the big winner what say you will. This is not the first time that we've agreed now I feel exactly the same way and that show was strong like well. No you know you had other elements of the tag competition that I've felt like we're really really strong Anytime can you get a showing from imperium It adds an element of danger to the show that is A reminds me of the four. Oh horsemen like you always felt like they're going to work so good together as the faction that the tag team is going to be tremendous. The individual wrestlers matches are going to be almost a given Strength in numbers so that definitely definitely in x t was the show for me And as good as a w and raw smackdown empower word this week If you're not I alas yeah and and Mark Listen. It wasn't just the Keith Lee win that made Annex T so enjoyable obviously we've got a continuation waste of the dusty classic and a moment that I really loved On Annex T was first of all I love the Browser Weights Matt Riddle and Pete done just. I mean my favorites. I it to begin with you know how highly I think pete done. We've we've had discussions off the air about Pete Dunham. I'm very much I'm very much in the corner. A Pete done and I've known Matt Riddle title for for for years. Obviously going back to the U of C We did a story with the Did a story on them for Yahoo Sports before mania in fifteen sixteen sixteen. Whatever Edna maybe seventeen I dunno my timelines are all screwed up? I'm terrible with that stuff. But it was when he was wrestling. wrestling Tim Thatcher in evolve Prior to mania a few years ago in Texas I believe it was Just to see them together is awesome they they fit and I really liked. I really liked that Promo that they ran with the grizzled young young veterans Out of the UK. I love the conviction that was delivered in that. Promo Br more specifically as I'm sitting here glowing about Pete Dot in Matt Matt Riddle. I love what I'm seeing from. The Grizzle Young Veterans Mark like their new their fresh. But they're not acting like their new right they act like they belong and that is a that that is a huge huge notch in their belt and it should be a big confidence builder for them going forward. I really love this show but yeah going back to the grisly young veterans. I love that Promo always always hate it when somebody walks up. act very comfortable and Like there Familiar if you will they just just hey guys what's going on man. I'm seeing all the time and I'm like who the hell is that. That's the way the Grizzle Young Veterans Treat people in a wrestling since they go on the ring and they work like you know me. You know who I am is kind of like that. Kevin durant thing when they was like You know me I am like they very comfortable and they russell like grizzle young like grizzled veterans but there are young and they have time to develop before they start getting that kind of feeling But they still go out and they perform to the hill every week. Yeah and another thing that we gotta look on. Was this a continuation. Obviously Shadab as they're getting eliminated Last week in that bad a royal she comes in and it has that That beat data shotsie blackheart which I mean marquis. We had a listener calling. I sorry I forget your name Powell but He called it a little bit earlier in the show and and pick Shane to be his winner of the women's Royal Rumble. This weekend I tend to agree that tend to agree It does feel like time it. Well it feels like our time and annex t on some level is coming to an end Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe I'm wrong. But the point being is is every time she's on TV see that's must watch TV. She just has an aura about her. She has a believability about her. But yeah let's go to that you just said Bark what was we will get back into the rumble. Right now. As I mentioned Shayna Baiser Sir. You don't think she's GonNa win. Okay that's fine. Then maybe you think if because here's right if it's not going to be Shayna baiser which is fine I will. I will contest that. That is a complete possibility than it has to be Ronda Rousey because I just feel like that's the story of mania is incomplete without S.. Out One of them you know kind of they're not the original however you WanNa look at the four horse women right They had their vibe. They decided they wanted to be known as a four horse swimming. Then obviously you have the main roster for horsewoman with with Becky in Charlotte and Sasha and Bailey But I just those are my two picks to win the women's rumble. I think Shayna. I do think it's going to be Shayna but if not I think surprise of Ronda Rousey could be in the cards but mark. It sounds like neither one of them are on your list. So so why. Don't we get into it. What what's your prediction for that Bro? It's all about Nyah. Jack's Jack and she starts throwing throwing people like a discus. I mean she shot putting people is GonNa look like a track. Meet the field awesome. That's great you know something about that I I you know. I think you know being a larger size athlete is going to be hard for them to get rid of her and is going. This is tailor. Made for her to go in there and Use her size as a weapon and get rid of people. When it's convenient and don't put yourself at risk so I I am and I think the surprise factor of her being gone on injury is going to be a good feel good moments everybody to see a comeback. Well I don't disagree and do you expect Jack's return I I. I guess I see going more in the way of how your first royal rumble went mark. Right where the entire locker room teams up on her and essentially they. Okay get on the same page and they acknowledge acknowledged that listen. We can't get any of work done in this ring until we dispose of Nyah. Jack's now I think she'll be used for the pop. I think she'll be used use to grab excitement and she'll be used to when she hits the runway. Everyone's going to think. Oh well there's your clear winner but you know how it is with these rumbles marked so often. Is it the air so I I should say so. Rarely is the big person who wins right. It's usually it's not the behemoth wins because they get tagged up on. I just feel like that's going to happen with Ni- you know what I mean in and also I don't know if that's the story. WWe wants to tell going into mania. I don't know if you want it to be the NYAH jacked story. I think she would be much more us much more more effectively. I should say as the danger threat as the palm like you said they bring the emotion she brings the danger she has another layer to that that royal rumble story. But but I don't think she's the story after rumble. You know what I'm saying We agree to disagree. I just think that there's a lot of options. I do. Think that chain basinger This is also a time to create issues between between of the rustlers and the rumble has done a great job of that in throughout history Somebody may get eliminated and feel like like unjustly and that person is poking fun at the person that they just eliminate a negative as dumped out and those to start fighting on the floor like I. I think that stuff like you have. You had those those guys go at it you know on on Monday or Friday Maybe Wednesday so you know it'd be pretty cool to see in the women's about a raw Nine Jack's come back but also I like to see Shane of Basil in there. And then maybe that's the one that we get maybe Shayna Basil says. Hey I don't I don't care where it is but we're not done. Maybe maybe I'll see you on Wednesday at N.. T. or maybe I'll see you. You On smackdown Friday like I. I'd love to see it. But it's just a matter of making those bookings kings and putting people together and letting the stories being told by what happens in the battle now well. I don't think you're alone in that. Pick Markelle ARCA. Gabby it sounds like you're you're sitting here talking to be very emotional I it sounds like you're in agreement with mark. Listen I love ny and that was you know seriously. Start with listening which I didn't realize. Listen Up. Listen let's go guys listen up dumb ass right now as if you're not listening to your headphones on your kind of you have here. I could hear you quite clearly jersey. Can you hear me when the show's on. I scare you when your dreams. Yeah Yeah so he was actually my pick for the rumble because I would absolutely love to see her common as a surprise off injury. She's a bad ass and she's always been bad ass as you know when she came in the Royal Rumble and she kicked ass and like Oh man like I popped so I was like what like especially you want to get into this whole gender gender topics women and men whatever. Nyah breaks that boundary. At that point she is the example of it and she's awesome and I don't really see anybody with her her talent and her demeanor really standing up against her and you know you can make a storyline out of her with Becky. She Bust Open. Becky's knows like let's let's go back to that. Let's see that happen. And that changed everything for you Lynch but then what happened tonight. She got hurt. She went away for a little bit. Like I could see NAI against Ronda. I could see nothing in fact. There's so many things that if the storylines happen correctly. Nyah is limitless as something that Mark said about Lacey before I think limitless is the best word for her because I could see her beating down anybody and it would make sense awesome. Let's come back I think this will be the point. Where where they build the Rhonda and What I've been hitting the head many anytime now? our champion at inex- t- that Rea- are Shayna. Shane obeys the whole roster covered before. It's over it's just them shaking man. I can't even keep stop shaking. Don't call paramedics yet. I'm not that bad energy drink yet. Now Oh man. I'm my in my my brain. I'm seeing little flowers and star. Orlandini Gabby Gabby get your get your finger on the emergency button. We have of emergency button for mark as what's going to happen now. That's my new job. I gotta get an emergency phone drink by the away. I told you not to have it. You don't you don't need energy drinks man. You got me. I'll yell at you and get you hyped. Ryan is Hugh. Yeah exactly Dave exactly. That would be my gimmick if I ever if I ever debut to the wwe. I'd be the human I gotta take. That would be over. Yeah Yeah exactly. I don't know what the antidote is to that. I Want Brit doughnuts. Cornbread sure yeah your stomach. Let's get some help me. Let's get this man. Tell me Phil is underneath underneath. This is it so food and bring me some collard. Greens and cornbread. That'll make all right easy easy easy with the collar. You Oh man. This is not good I am in Texas. We need I mean so many good so food places here Oh Gosh it's like it's not like Austin Austin terrible Franklin's and all the other men I mean I'm talking about so barbecue you get some good barbecue here too. But is that a premium here in Houston Mike. What you're hearing catch busted open live Monday through Saturday from nine? AM to noon in eastern on Sirius. XM fight nation in a one fifty six or on-demand with Sirius Xm APP. I got a few names for you and I'm very curious to get your thoughts thoughts because we've been talking about surprises. There's only a couple slots yet to be announced in terms of the royal rumble. So the surprise factor. Listen man it better be big because because there's only a couple of slots for someone give you four names. I want you to tell me who's most likely to pop. WHO's the most likely to be a surprise entrance in tomorrow's a royal rumble? First name is sting. Second name is stone. Cold Steve Austin third name is C. M. Punk and the fourth name is edge out of those four right stings. Don't cold punk edge. Who Do you think we see most likely in two thousand four hours at row rumble? Aw I would say sting eggs and see him pump. Remember Steve Austin. Yeah yeah yeah all right so who would you like to see. Who would you want to? It was just say who do you. Who Do you think is most likely like realistically in terms of most likely and and my favorite two different things all right so lightly? I thank thank you to be. I think it'll be edge okay and Seem pump he good for business man. There's so much stuff that's happened like there are people that want to see him. Get his ass kicked care like Conor McGregor like like He. He's talked bad about wrestling when when people want to see him get his ass handed to him And then there's people like you see 'em punk is the only one polarizing enough that's willing Elena say what it is and he can go word-for-word with Paul Heyman and get in a ring and wrestle move for move with brock listener and do things that outsmart the big guy do things a to try to get the big guy tire Counterbalanced if he has to cheat he will cheat. If you ain't cheating gained trying to win which I really don't subscribe to but in pro wrestling fits the bill and see 'em punk fits fits all those box. He checks all those boxes I. He's absolutely a licensed to print money and I think that would be a huge moment if he were to you know surprise surprise entrance in the royal rumble. All right so mark as you look at the list of potential winners I mean. Obviously there's brock listener. There's Roman reigns randy or yeah drew McIntyre's in there. He's been mentioned by a lot of people and then he got you know some maybe some oddballs in there they could are certainly some of the best wrestlers in the world some legends. It could potentially get it done Ricochet Shea Ramos Stereo. Aj Styles Barron Corbin. Even there's just there's so many names in there. Sure Bobby Lashley the roster is stacked as it's really ever been. This is in my opinion the greatest roster the wwe has ever assembled so when we look back. Twenty years from now I have a feeling rumbles like these will be Definitely held in high regard. But let me ask you a question mark. Who needs this win the most right like? I'm sure you could say that realistically weekly about everyone that I just mentioned like everyone could use and could need a royal rumble win but like who truly needs it. Who needs it for their character? Who would did you like to see for that reason? For whatever reason whatever your reason may be who needs this rumble win more than the others. You know what I think that He's been in Canada away from wrestlemainia prominence The last couple of years in these shot. Norma thank is brand New York. Yeah I I think that Randy going to wrestle mania is a big deal and the brock listeners. The champion Dan and you know him and Brock had a hell of a match where blood was everywhere. Got Hit with a cable or the bail. I mean is is is it was a bloodbath out there so I think that that's the one that I think would would benefit the most For being in that big time primetime wrestlemanias spot You I can also say the same thing You can see the same thing for Drew McIntyre like creating another player. There I don't think we're going to get keithly Keith. Lee would benefit he would they will automatically make a bonafide on a five superstar and help another brand. Because if Keith Lee was the guy that one and he said you know what I I want the next tidal title and you have that match at Wrestlemania Bro. Listen print money and you do you kill you. Serve more than one master Mr you you you get a great match you big up. IN X T as a brand and you you put their title at the forefront of wrestling like. There's three things that served in instant. So yeah there's multiple global things that can be done so well. Yeah and we talk about like who needs it right like and and and we brought up the name Ronda. Rousey as we switch over to the women Kylie I could see her being a surprise entrance but I could also see her helping Shane a win right like pulling someone out or maybe going after her such already has beef with right. I mean Rhonda's got beef with a few people from from Charlotte to Becky. Whatever the case may be right like I could see her interfering but point being as as I get on the women and more specifically Ronda Rousey? That's kind of what I say like who needs it like Ronda. Rousey doesn't need a royal rumble win it. Would it'd be nice in terms of accolades at something. You could put on her future hall of Fame Induction Plaque whatever she won the royal rumble in two thousand twenty but my point is is mark as she she can come back at any points and get a royal rumble pop. She can come back on raw. She can come back on smackdown she can come back at any point and you're going to get that juice out of the squeeze you know what I'm saying. So that's why I'm holding off in terms of Ronda Rousey potentially winning the royal rumble. Because I don't think she needs it not really and I also also think what I would like to see is kind of a rocky to Type of deal Iraqi. Three type of deal where Hey I'm GONNA help you out but you don't own me a favor and you see Rhonda Help Hell out and then her shane a baseball owner a favor. Right and and that that favor been How about you and I lock up after it is? Now that you're the champion and Print money you can. Just you know get a printing press and just I'm I'm only gonNA print hundreds because that's exactly eh you could do. We run arouse and Shane obeys all right. So let's look at the rest of the card outside the rumble. Obviously the title batch that Everyone's talking about the fevers Daniel Bryan we saw last night. A Bray Wyatt bleeding his own blood. You made me bleed my own blood Bray Wyatt Hi. It's signing the contract in blood it adding that extra sort of danger element and as you said mark to start to show adding an old school element to its fans will remember and kind of just very simple but very effective Pro Wrestling match itself. Really I mean listen. There's only really two schools of thought here right. It's the chase does Daniel Bryan's chase end in twenty four hours at Royal Rumble and then have a continuation into mania as then the fiend takes on a different role actually chasing Daniel Bryan or does chase continue into mania mark. Where were the fien stays champion and someone presumably Daniel Bryan will have to? They don't try a little bit harder and a few months bro. We we can sit here and flip the coin on whatever option I I'll rather see Daniel Bryan but I'd also like to see Randy Winn Rumble. And and we get we get Daniel Brand New York like I know it might not be the most It might not be the most climactic match but that just like my favorite wrestlers guys just because of the storytelling. I'm well I'm I'm still very old school in the sense that I wanna see the best story be told and we both know that both can wrestle. You know what I'm saying. And that's that's what I would like about it mark and I get very excited but the idea of a Randy Orton. Daniel Bryan match for me for someone who listened all due. Respect to Randy Orton. I think he is one of the best of his generation. But I also do think that Orton has found himself. The last few years different points kind of like what seen a was in like ten or eleven where it was very formulaic. In his match delivery I had seen that match before I had seen the move set before. He's so good that it's easy for him right. I I feel like Daniel Bryan would test him in ways and listen. I don't think we get a five star match. Necessarily out of those are well. That's the thing though. They have the capability and randy. Oh man the to see him tested in that way and as you said Mark I'd Tatum do I believe in I think there are fans out out there. Who Don't believe Randy Orton is capable of putting on a five star batch and has the same Roman reigns can do it examined race can get it done? It's just a matter of what the situation you put them in and I man I read without getting into it With you about what I think about. What the The common fan thinks about Roman reigns Shoot mark is not randy. Orton is not Roman reigns when it comes asked to Whether he'll be a good guy or bad guy he can do whatever the hell he wants to. He's the Viper Roman reigns is almost pigeonholed. Engine hold into being a baby face so you kind of know what you're GONNA get. Randy is a surprise and a point grey point to is two different different things. Well you just threw something. They're a curve ball little. Maybe now you're out there thinking nation right rainy or Daniel Bryan is that something I wanna WanNa see. Maybe not but now I'm thinking about and you know what maybe I do. Maybe from the reasons we just said. Let's test Randy Orton. Let's get him in there. Truly one of the best of a generation against what are the best generation Asian and Daniel Bryan and that would be a very unique story to be told and I can't say it would be particularly predictable right like mark. You pointed out. Maybe something would happen but I think it's one one of those things that would throw people for a swerve. So maybe that's something we should keep our eye on a mark knows this stuff. Mark knows aside and he's backstage you never know was not gonNa go away. I'm not I if if I thought are heard something. I'M NOT GONNA say it on the Air I'm not gonNA know. I might spoiler alert for bad boys. But I'm not gonNA spoiler order for us. Well that's good and I and someone who doesn't read the dirt sheets and really likes to remain as In the in the closet in the dark as you can and possibly imagine I'm definitely cut from that cloth. I I hate mark I truly do I I it just. It doesn't yeah. I don't even keep up with injuries that much because I like to be surprised. When the wrestlers come back I tried to watch pro wrestling through as much of a child's view as you possibly can so Yeah the from that standpoint. There's a a lot of exciting possibilities coming out of this weekend and obviously not just the rumble but the title matches. We're talking about the fiend and Brian. But there's two other great title matches every actually more more but For the for the to be specific to this conversation. We've got Oscar and Becky we've Got Bailey and Lacey. These are true. Great Women's title matches Mark. Which one are you more excited it for God man? ooh You know what man. I think that the scene and Dan Brand is is going to be something that we will talk about for a while. No mark but I was talking about the ladies between the ladies which women's title match remorse looking forward to between Oslo Lacey Becky Lynn Engine Oscar for women's Championship. man that that's that's hard to be even though I love for. Yeah I love this I love to see Lacey and and Bailey go at it But that's I think going to be more of a fight and yeah Anything anything can happen in a fight but when it comes to the story there's going to be told between Becky and Oscar. That's that's that's my cup of tea You know how I feel about the emotional side wrestling pool. Yeah that's that's why we watch right and so the the more emotion that you can bring the better and Both of these stories. Actually I said you know the build between Oscar and Becky has been really really solid. The bill between Bailey and lacey has been really solid despite are are perceived lack thereof heels. Tendencies of Bailey. And it hasn't been really believable. Gabby Gabby touched on. I've touched on it but that's not really. The point. Lacy has done such. Hey great job building this emotion that we're going to be tuning in for lacy and can lacy walk away as the champion. Thanks for listening catches. as-as Monday through Saturday I'm busted open from nine A._M.. To noon eastern on Siriusxm by Nation Channel and fifty six the busted open odd cast.

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Breaking Down the Ring January 5th 2020

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Breaking Down the Ring January 5th 2020

"You're listening to the PODCAST DETROIT visit. WWW DOT kassy's detroit dot com for more information this episode of breaking down. The ring is brought to you you by Charlie. Illegal Group Estate Planning Estate Planning is for everyone. Whether you're worth four thousand or forty million dollars estate planning can help protect you your a family and your assets while you're alive and well to register for an upcoming workshops today go to Sean. Illegal Dot com slash workshops or call. Five eight six to seven three seven one five seven again. That's Challah. Legal Dot com slash workshops or call. Five eight six two seven three seven seven one five seven ladies and Gentleman New Year Newbie episode for you. We are not going to talk anything about wrestle kingdom fourteen. We are not going to talk about things that are upcoming. We're going to get all of that next week. As we become live from the podcasts at Tri Studios here in Royal Oak there. But this week we're going to do something that nobody else has done. A best of twenty nineteen and a decade show when twenty nineteen and a delegate gate is over. We're going to get all that and more this week as we window. You don't know what sixteenths awesome. Hey this is. Professional Wrestler Professional. PODCASTS are boom boom van name. Is Jill Lacrosse. SMOKE CESS COW. What's up guys Nafta Machine Brian? Kay this is Ryan from pro wrestling. Tease savvy or not listening to the art of wrestling. But humidity's enjoy. It's because you're listening you are now listening to and you're listening and you're listening to listen to break down the ring breaking down the ring breaking down on the ring breaking down the breakdown. The rain down a witch true. It's Dan Ladies and gentlemen. You are listening to the most inappropriate motherfucking show in the motherfucking world and the motherfucking twenty. Twenty down listening to breaking down that rain and we are hearing grow. Something is dismayed Semitic nick and me friendly neighborhood knicker says case season case and me the almighty anyone. Mikey him. Self may look man. This show is going to be crazy. We're starting off twenty twenty with some power not with three Rs. One are because we're not trying to trademark infringe. You know we're going to make an impact was is a song to go get raw but yeah three. W WE'RE GONNA you're through twenty twenty. It's the roaring twenties. Okay okay. I'M GONNA smack down some bitches. Malay- it down while smacking right and look man I'm GonNa go on you bitches estimates men's line because we're definitely stereotyping smitty in twenty twenty. He kicked did off by stealing. Share it it was funny as tight as a stereo. I had just every old Halama. Okay I thought so look all right. Here's the deal. Let me fuck and talk it to myself. How are you? I'm great. Thanks for asking just saying this. Everyone does the best of the year before the years up. It's annoying right if you buckle. Both Obama voter dye well. That's because they didn't invest of impact. Of course there's shit is done but the problem is not all this shit is done before the year ends trite. NWEA had a show New Year's Eve December thirty first. What happens if one of those matches was the best fucking met you've ever seen in your life life crackle so proclaims we'll have a fair to knock that out of your decade or best of year? Fucking oh this is the best selling album of twenty nineteen in December. Third is what you're calling what there's a couple of albums coming out how you know the frozen to sound checking on blow to fuck up hitch the first. When did the the goff stay off the soundboards because everyone was listening to Z.? They were finishing each other's sandwiches in summer. you're building snowmen so I wanna do something different Dafur. I wanted to do a best of twenty nineteen nineteen and a best of the decade when twenty thousand nine hundred a decade. Were fucking over now. If you WANNA be a fucking nerd and go to booker authorities until twenty twenty one. You knew there was the one now motherfucker. It was zero. BC BITCH ZERO AD. Whatever it is for Christ though would make decades nine years? There's no no Sir zero. Zero's no sir no Sir that it's twenty. Twenty is the last year of the decade eight and it starts in started in fucking twenty eleven ten years. But that's what I'm saying. It's like no one's like MC Hammer. You can't touch. This was the best song of the eighties when it came out in nineteen ninety now it was one of the best so somehow this place chain the first decade ever was only nine years. That's what it was the first decade ever ever nine in years I wasn't even a decade a decade data sh-sh-she initiate so. Look we're going to get I I'm also fucking blabbering because he's still not here and he said he was coming but he's going to be late. A problem is like at least this fiancee's Natalie. I guess that's good. Yeah yeah that's a good thing right. There was a major fuck facebook posters. Like all right. Here's the news. It was a little nephew. I'M GONNA BE A big cousin shirt and I'm out shit in my house. It was another sister all right. Cool all right so look we. Let's talk about the categories. We're going to talk about what's up guys chemo. She'll be watching. This ignorance. Alexa bliss has not ignorant how he mainly thought man all right guys so I love the fact that we finally got periscope chats happened. Look at this Shit Shit Alright. Best Male Wrestler of Twenty Nine Thousand Nine Best Female Wrestler of Twenty Nineteen Best Match of two thousand nineteen the best pay per view of two thousand nineteen right best rand in twenty nineteen favorite moment of twenty nine thousand nine hundred and the worst moment of twenty nine thousand nine. That is what's going on that we're talking about for the year for the decade. We just have four categories. Because it's a lot to talk about top five wrestlers of the decade men and women all together. Maybe if you pick a girl top matches top three matches of the decade your favorite moment of the decade and the worst moment of the decade Smith. I want you to give me your your number three on your list of best male wrestler for twenty nine hundred three here number three dog. I oh man. This is still stereotyping. Wait on hold on hold on. I'm sorry before we start. We need to toast with a little bit of the way we have it. Put up on the fucking cameras face. Almost get closer. You step away year. Look that's that's right. We got a little bit of the bubbly so open it face it that way because there's no nose mouth there's no fucking in technology over there and I don't trust no fucking. Yes Lana Lashley. Getting married is the best moment. Uh of two thousand nineteen very glad to the best moment of the deck. That's from Jesse from pro wrestling scorecards. We all know how Jesse that's the best moment ever in pro wrestling out of any wrestling promotion ocean that's ever existed in the face of the fucking planet cork smells like jam packed PAG near limited above. Thank you smells. Turco's balls really. Oh my God he has the balls of the bubbly bubbly balls. I don't know if you want your balls bubbly folks. I don't know if you want that all right. Let's cover. Could you hurry up and bore. Jesus taken a year and a half the poorer fucking glass dog. Bullshit come Morman. Hurry up Auburn bottle. You're not drinking out of the bottle. Jesus Christ should've shook it before he popped. Jesse says you bet nick. Best moment of the year I decade by all right cheers. Happy Happy New Year News wanted twenty new a years. Same US as ACORNS. I'm just kidding. Tastes like Sham Patnaik Ignatz all right. Let's not bad not bad. All right many number three on your best male wrestler of Twenty Nine Thousand Nine hundred twenty nine t orange juice number three medal. Nineteen is cody. Why is he number? Three not the rest of the just everything. Everything is done in two thousand nineteen as a personality and in fact he's probably over guys in pressing right now. So you're telling me your best. Your the number three best. Male wrestler of the year is a guy not because of wrestling. Okay snick number. Three three my snicker. I'M GONNA go with of Snickers with my people Kofi Kingston. Oh number three on the year. WHY THAT'S A? That's a hot take brother. I wouldn't do. He's my five. Damn that's even hotter goes you know why yeah. 'cause me hubs Huzzah brothers. I would say he's number three because I mean number. Three is a prestigious. Yeah it's out there right but you're standing at the podium. I don't think that it would have happened. had other things happened so at the start of the year ear. There were a couple of injuries. That kinda squeezed him into that picture do broke it so much. He lost his first name. I it strapped him to the Moon Right now. That's not taking that much away from it but it takes a little bit away from me because while I think it was definitely his time it it was overdue. It just Kinda took away a little bit of the luster for me okay. All right My number three is no that's decent one. TV so much so my number. Three is is the current and ex champion Mr Adam Cole. May I have him at number three because a couple of things first off the match quality that Adam Cole has had this year has been spectacular. It's two out of three falls match. Johnny Gargano Holy Shit and how he acted in wargames how you know how he performed at Williams only then to go onto survivor series. which was post everything he did was seth rollins and Daniel Annual Bryan on smackdown and raw respectively? Adam Cole has been a match bout top contender right you. Just you look at this year. And you're like Goddamn Adam Cole is always up there. In a conversation that you're having right it's not the upper echelon because has my number two I think is the work right number. UPPER-ECHELON I'm just you can't talk about male wrestlers in twenty nineteen and not talk about Adam Cole. He's just too damn good and ex champion second ever Triple crown champion. You know right after Gargano. He took it from Gargano literally. So I just. I don't think that you can again have twenty nineteen conversation about male wrestlers and not have Adam Cole in your top three. In my personal opinion number two on on them. Best male wrestlers of two thousand Nineteen Anthony Christopher Smith. Oh me off all my government named on here like that and twenty twenty new year new main. No that's the name I've had my entire fucking lines you haven't any steel ship for you on. BDR that's rice some shit again now. Everyone knows where to find you snooze addresses seven to nine four six somerset actually know what street there's on Somerset is Devonshire go ahead Zeman. Healer Exceed My street right now. Two four eight three nine to number two twenty nineteen Jericho Jego number two. Why do you have Chris? motherfucking less champing on low better bubbly motherfucking Jericho number two for yourself. So many it just Jerry. Gold is like he's redefined just usually redefine himself in twenty nineteen head. Great Masters hasn't been great match with a lot of young guys. It's just during this damn thing. Jerry loves the young boy got himself in almost anybody else. He's been in. That rate went over all right. Nick the Dick me you your number Deuce for twenty one nine I and nine nine drop a deuce. I'M GONNA say Adam Call Adam calls your number two number two like you were saying the match quality first of all that match with Gargano in New York was fire fucking flaming fire fire. Fire everything leading up to survivor series with the matches that he had Ron smackdown annex t takeover survivor series. The things he did with undisputed era his promos is the way he's over what the crowd All of it just I mean it was a toss up between him and my number one and I could flip flop depending on my mood but definitely my number and my top three number two sounds good. Do you have any flipflops. I've got to pair two pairs. Nice me to burn money to pay for my number. Two is not anybody that all. Let's all Oh hello before we go. We're GONNA Talk Greg. Johnson posted his top three. So Greg Greg Number Three Adam Cole. I don't care what you know. Number to Kofi motherfucking Kingston and number one bray wife. Hot Take Their Greg. Hot Take but bray why number one of the year. My number two is a guy that is not wrestling in the states. Unless that company travels to the states Mr Will Osprey will asprey is a man who who in my opinion and in a lot of people's opinion has been in some quite a few of the top matches of the year right There is his performance grits. There's a g one climax that was really good. I believe he went nine. One in one I could be wrong. Maybe maybe I'm just thinking of the last night final record He is just been great His best best of the Super Super Junior's he won best one best of the Super Juniors and his match for with Bandido in that is considered one of the top matches of the year Especially actually the g one climax his match with Okada. It's considered one of the top matches of years. Well so when you're in two different matches with two different opponents and your your kids and these matches are considered some of the top of the year you really have to think. Maybe it's the wrestler to so we'll Osprey in my honest opinion worker in ring is the best male wrestler of Twenty nineteen but the only reason he's not number one is because he's not an it's kind of spoiler he hasn't trained ended his business. He is not he. He's amazing to watch. There's look he's amazing to watch but because he hasn't transcended the match quality in New Japan to be more of a conversation other than his twitter feud with Seth rollins. But that's because a global guy put you on to something right. He knowledge you. So Seth rollins kind of put we'll osprey into a bigger light there again great call because we'll pay deserves it so we'll raise my number two of the year again so greg did it on are comment so we WANNA know guys. If you're watching live you know we got quite a few of your We WanNA know your top three male wrestlers of twenty nine thousand nine. Who you thought was the best smitty? Your number one. And you're male wrestler category of Twenty nineteen is what actually went to Adam. Cole especially with everything he's on the improperly up saviour series bill. What kind of one of the things that kind of like just stuff? You GotTa do on an improvised tip pretty much on the. Yeah okay. That's explanation Nick. Your number one male wrestler of two thousand nine hundred. It could be a bit of a hot take for some people. ooh I'M GONNA go with Samir Sing. No she's is gonNA sing this break. I'M GONNA I'm GonNa say Jericho all right because to me wrestler encompasses. Compasses obviously entering work. Everything you're doing from your promos to what you're doing for the business to what you're doing to put other people over. I think that he's just one of the most well rounded people of Twenty Nineteen What he's done for a w whether you like them or not and whether do you think that they're going to succeed or not? He's definitely helped them get to a level that they're being talked about in the way they are a he hasn't put on some some of the best matches but he's put on some very good man this year. So that's why I think it could be hot. Take because you know he's not long lines of you. You know you guys had said like Smitty With Adam call. Obviously Kohl's put on some better matches but just as an overall package Chris Jericho for twenty nineteen all right My number one wrestler for Twenty nineteen is a guy that not many people have heard of But but it's just it's ridiculous. How good he is? And that is Chris Jericho if you guys have heard about this Guy Chris. Jericho is a w champion right. He's championship. Yeah they champion on No basically everything saying what everything you said for its spectacular what Christiane go has done for this business. And that's the only reason he's above Osprey is not because excuse accuse me Jesus is match quality because if we're just going who's a better match quality performer. Osprey all day right or match Raleigh. Michael Elliot will be one of my top three as well exactly. I agree so many But Chris Jericho has done for. E W what Hogan did for WCW CW right WCW. When Bischoff took it over? It was still world championship wrestling right. It was all right. It was floating water pretty much when and he got when he got Hulk Hogan it changed people started paying a little bit of attention because his whole Cogan. This is an iconic character right and then yeah brother. WW went on to be one of the best promotions for a couple years and then ww peon me and then they pete and Oh Kelly right yeah Kelly. WCW and drowned him to death. The listen molested yes. Shot on meet them in the ratings New Year. Saying fucking smitty talking. Call you Mike but it. I didn't Chris Jericho coming out and saying he was a full time member of aid w change that promotion ocean starting up. Let's be very honest him hitting that podium at that event people were like Oh shit I know that name and it's very well. They should without even having a match. Because in the last fucking decade Chris Jericho has switched himself and changed himself. So much. That you just I mean. Come on man. The festival of friendship friendship is. WWe stuff and that's something. Chris Jericho had to fight for because Vince wasn't there that day. Triple H is running the show and triple h was like no. nope not doing this doing this. That way and Chris is like. I'M GONNA call Vince because I got approval already for all this and had a call Vince. And Vince edit tell Mr Leveque back because that's triple h his real name. That wasn't here. Damage that festival of friendship is going to be good shepherd as Mr and Chris. Jericho is amazing. You hear Fauzi. I Love Toys Haka and so that that is all Chris. Jericho's remind and that's the thing it's Chris Jericho like you said Nick all the shit that he's done but his mind is something that you can see honestly out there in opening a w him as the champion is the smartest fucking call. They could've made because when they went to live television people. Like I know that guy. WHO's holding the bill? I Love Hangman. Page I'm not trying to shit on rampage kind of because that motherfucker still has watched shawshank redemption still still. It's twenty twenty pass Astle Wassall sink retention so I come in and on his post on twitter and I said and you wonder why you weren't chosen champion. I think we've found it. That's why you're not Tampa Shawshank man man you'll cowboy shit prison break shit spoilers but again Chris Jericho the name what he's done like Smitty said he is a guy that is putting so many people over you know what I'm saying and he is. It's look Chris. Jericho should be around your number one in any category for the best male wrestler of two thousand nineteen. And if he's not your honesty doing yourself a disservice I honestly because you need to pay attention do I. Can't wait to see what he doesn't. Twenty twenty I honestly can't think okay not can't he's already done stuff recipe fourteen. He won the match at Wrestle Kingdom. Fourteen over Tashi. Let's say that right. Yeah it's and then. He made a post put up on twitter. The forbidden door has been slammed. Shut because there's a talk with w but they got to work. I thought aw. JERICHO IS GONNA lose. Not because I thought that door was going to be open right away but a little bit later in the year so it's very possible that it happens. Look all I'm saying is Chris. Jericho is is doing things in other promotions in his promotion and he is your number one guy and he's making other people look good as well. That's smart wrestling smart. Booking by cody in the boxing of any any right and smart playing it up by Chris Jericho Chris. Jericho number one male wrestler. Twenty nine thousand nine. Mikey's lists the all Mikey ones list and Knicks list in my hip wasn't Smith though bump bump up burn minds. Many hates sharecropper anyway next category. We're going to talk about out. Is the best female wrestler of two thousand nineteen. What's anyway laugh at your new? Mount was was. He didn't tell me and I knew was number one was but I wouldn't know number three is sir Number three was real Ripley Ripley. Why Rea- Ripley Sir? Because Rea- Ripley we pretty much until the jail was kind of a run no for washing dishes on NFC UK as becoming The narrow NFC champ was that this year last year was the last year and this year not row NFC women's champion and then being a first person to wear both see women's championships. Is She also put on great matches throughout the last year. Okay what everybody. She's worked with Nick Nick. Nick Nickelodeon Own I. I gotTA agree honestly number three number three. You know she's done a lot this year. She's done a lot fast Not Too fast for me but I do like where she's going. I liked her from the minute. I saw her when One of the first times was when we went back back in was marched annexed Ian Royal Oak When I saw her live She had a match against Tony Storm. That was really good annexed. UK UK. She's just doing a lot of really good things for that division right now and she definitely deserves to be in that top three. I don't agree I find. I don't agree with either replacing even in my top three. And here's why because my number three is the girl that Ria Ripley took the belt off of Shayna Baiser Shane. baiser has been dominant in that. Women's division in annexed t the entire fucking year more than a year. Right Shane bazars been so dominant. That because of her dominance everyone wanted to see Ripley beat. Her career Ripley had a great end to twenty one thousand. Nine hundred right. She started off. Twenty nineteen seen dropping. The next to you A. K. Women's championship. I'm not saying RIA Ripley's bad. As a matter of fact she might be number forum your list but she wasn't dominant dominant enough to me not the entire year. Shane Obeys Ler was and again Stefan. What's up Stefan says love by they say Stefan Stefan if we want to know everybody speed? Everybody's top three male wrestlers top three male female wrestlers at twenty one thousand nine male l.. Wrestlers give me your best match man. We WanNA know everybody talk to me. Dogs in dog gets but yes Shayna baiser. I'm glad you didn't search search dogs and bitches almost but I was pitchy the dog but yes Shayna baseler in two thousand nineteen when. NFC came up and fucking did she. W W Russell people knew Shayna baiser right she transcended an xt not a lot right but enough to where it was transcending so. I can't say that Ria Ripley would have had a better end of the year if it wasn't for the Shane of baiser build in Annex T. So again that's why I would put Shayna baiser above rea- Ripley. I'm not saying you guys are wrong. I'm not I'm not even saying you rope. Deserve to have rea- Ripley in a conversation of the top. Because she does she doing. Five a guarantee rear ripley would be of our number two smitty. Your number two best female wrestler of Twenty Mother Fucking Nine Teen Charlotte Flare Charlotte Flare Look at you. All right makes me laugh my ass off at your number one then go ahead why Charlotte flare just shows Charlotte. She's one of the best performers probably of of a long time but I feel lonely reasons. He's my number two pigeonholed by the way the women's division is. Okay Nick. I actually have as my number two. Shane Obeys Ler. Okay for many any other reasons that you said because she had such dominant twenty nineteen Some of the best women's matches x t takeover twenty-five against Yoshii She had that match with Bianca. Bel Air Yo shrine carry saying that was insane and I don't think necessarily taking a loss you know I. It doesn't like knock you down a peg. It does something for rea- Ripley so she went out of twenty nine thousand nine with a Bang essentially so with that being said number two Shayna motherfucker bays learn Nice. My number two is a girl that is doing something that no other girls girls women are doing in professional wrestling right now and that is being in the number one spot for the main title of of a show of a promotion Shen Tessa fucking blanchard. No number two for me not wildlife. I'll tell you while after the minute when my number one number two for me because again what she's about to receive number two and number one is because if she does win this hard to kill this coming Saturday if I'm not mistaken Impact if she becomes that first woman to win impacts top belt that transcends the business that is something that nobody's doing not a single person is doing however she hasn't done it yet that being said the talk of it is starting to start rumblings when it happens it'll totally change things but right now Tessa Blanche one work rate spectacular. Usually watch any fucking match. Tessa Blanchard has and you can go man. That's a really fucked Gail Kim Kim and rebellion. Look all I'm saying is you need to fucking pay attention to Blanchard if there's any reason to start watching impact wrestling right fucking now. It's Tessa Blanchard. There's a bunch of other things going on rich. Swann has having amazing career and impact wrestling right now. Sam Callahan is running. Shit is impact world champion right now one of the best. Here's the business. Look there's so many other reasons that will keep you hooked. Why am I not watch? But if there's anything that you need to pay attention impact wrestling for. It's definitely blanchard watts. What she does it hard to kill this Saturday even if she loses it's a fucking feat that nobody is doing there's no women woman woman woman any the promotion anywhere citing for the number one belt? This also be the second time in her. Semi Carolina may have been in a pay-per-view together biggie band baby test supplant your mind number two female wrestler of two thousand Nineteen Smitty. WHO's a number one female wrestlers test is? She's allow here breaking those Gladis Gladis shattering those proverbial glass aliens and if she went off. Saturday is what you said is the best way is a game changer. For the business. In general She won't be the first woman to vie for top championship because Psychic John Grandma actually one but look underground was We've found and I was shit show and a half afterwards but this is also impacts been around for a while and this is something that's never been done eh in a promotional along promotion Nick your number one female wrestler. Well not as exciting as Tessa Blanchard. Only because I probably would have given her an honorable honorable mention. Because I'm not as familiar with her as you guys but based on everything you here which is factual evidence that she should definitely be on many people's lists number one. However I'm going to go with I? I'm sorry just I from what I'm familiar with. I gotta go with Becky Lynch okay What she's helped do for that women's division over the last year in wwe? We specifically As a I guess at this point you could call her a female female version of stone cold not to his not to his level but just as a character that she doesn't take any shit shit from anybody whether you're a face or heel. She has improved. Mike skills tremendously for me going. I am not saying she's he'll but just her whole attitude and demeanor the way it changed over the last year or so has improved helped improve those skills. She's good in the ring I think she's great but again. It's a whole total package for me so I had to go becky Lynn's number one and I'm in the same exact doc. Plays A. You're number one becky Lee and the man the reason again just like you said she's transcending the business right now. I one of the first three women to ever main event Wrestlemainia. Yeah the woman who won the man who won wrestlemanias main event for the first time matter how she did it she did it she one. You don't have to talk about the ending. But that match itself suspect was was good was really good match but it was also history making something that did transcend the business have were business. That's what I'm saying. And that's it is Jericho did that with a W. A. W. Becky Lynch is doing that again with wwe. There's a reason becky lynch is all fucking over the place right. She is first female email face. It a company deservedly where she is because of her mic skills because of how she talks because of the match quality is she better than Tessa Blanchard in the match quality. No not to me. I'm sorry she's not but Jericho isn't better than we'll osprey domes- quality in my opinion. Either the bottom line is though becky lynch is doing stuff that no one else is doing being in that is getting people talking. You can shit talk all you want about someone. WWe stuff becky Lynch. I believe is still the only titleholder from wrestlemainia to still have their belt. I don't want to have one of them because he was making. She warned about regimen. She may have lost this women's championship but that raw championship. She took at Wrestlemainia and still has it. Becky Lynch is just really good really good and really well rounded and making everybody talk. The problem is the key Lynch face a www K.. Two hundred twenty. So there's also that you got your negatives what does stupid stuff outside of it think about it. Every time that we've watched the pay per view right that that tag matches bad but I don't think that's on her. I really don't i. We all talked about it we. TLC match it seemed like it went forever because it seemed like there was a lot of things that had to be put in on the fly when Kyrie saying died right so it's not all her fault. I don't think it's any of those four woman's fault it's something happened through it all off and they're like Shit Damn it. It's a very put together. So Lynch yourself has been in every any match. She watched pay per view. There are matches you want her to lose took on Sasha banks a couple of times like. Oh Okay Sasha to win. But you're not pissed. She still the champion a lot of times like God damn it just because when you watch faces faces you're not supposed to be mad at the champion still. You might want him to lose sometimes because you didn't kind of sour on them but becky lynch you're like but then you're all right with it and this leading up feud with Oscar Royal Rumble. Kimmy thank you Lynch i Oscar and tell me that's twenty nine hundred brought me into twenty twenty. Thank you God damn. I can't wait for the Royal Room. Because of that January twenty six we see a be dealt with us big commodity path so again three two and one for the female wrestler her very giving I just I want you to recite it so we get your number three is a real number two Charlotte Tessa. Nick Rea- Shane Abi and Becky Glitch. Asia and China bazars my number three test number two. I'm Becky Lynn. The reason I was laughing. Because you don't have becky on this list and I don't understand why she is. What was the I'm just when it comes to meet him female wrestling. I feel like women are pigeonhole by just still being looked at as women. They're not look under the same namely as some of the men are. I gotta I gotTa say wrong there man because of what Becky's doing outside of it it's if you're you just said it she's the first female L. Face of the company that you're right there you're no longer pigeonholed into under the men. Because you're you're above every man in that fucking company so I feel feel like you're fighting your own arguments. I've watched I watched stuff like the Mexican stuff. It makes me want to watch impact where they have women. I'm an actually out there fighting on par with the guys. Okay and I think that's what I mean by the head to pigeonhole. Because she's not fighting men. Do you want to you. Want to put these women on the same level of men have them in there with the metal. Always WanNa see women fight men do. I'm not saying you don't always have to right so while it's doing great an impact. I think it would be shitting W we did we. Yeah I think the best you get your mix Max Challenge. WWe Land of fucking huge dudes man. You get a woman like Cima Callahan's five foot eight it dude five foot eight. He's a beefcake he's five fucking eight you start you tell me you want to see Becky Lynn's by Brock Lesin wasn't by Braun. Strowman Roman rain this. Hey did you put Ronda Rousey there. Maybe we had Roman maybe not even Brock Braun. Sorry Ronda Rousey will definitely take on more than any other woman in wwe period read but your top dudes your big dudes i. I can see becky first. Bray thank you first. Brad liked to watch right but any other match man with those top pop guys. There's there's a couple of female wrestlers that could could right toe to toe but yeah some of these bigger dudes like that. I I think impacts promotion for the Inter gender because again. There's there's some people that don't WanNa see intergener- at all the hate it makes everything look fake and I'm just like the minute minute. I think a woman can't beat my ass and up in as sorry. The minute regular I think Serena Williams kick my ass right. He's not a fly. Why is she's a she's a fucking tennis? Wear and I might kick my ass. I know that as a man so I know that women can beat men. Impact is a great promotion promotion for I think. NWEA is good promotion for some of the guys they have in there. I'm not saying all this because I think Nicole does is kind of a bigger you know but I wouldn't mind seeing Alison Kay take on on fucking Aaron Stevens. I wouldn't mind seeing Alison Kate take on a couple of the other people in. NWEA or Thunder Roosevelt. Ricky Star. She's an MA fighter as well. You know so. It's there are certain women that can do it and I honestly feel that impact is a great thing for gender I think. WWE's horrible failure gender. At least if on the top level and so that's that's why I think your argument holds no water. And that's fine. I understand your opinion. I'm not even saying you're wrong. Here's many normally say wrong. I understand your opinion. I I don't think it holds water because of the difference in companies and what they have built as big guys DOPP. Starr's top people. Honestly I would like to join Greek. I Brian Jordan graces and amazing wrestler. I think she's amazing on impact and I yes. I agree I would love to see I would love to see her take on a couple of the dudes all all right. Let's move onto the best match of twenty nine thousand nine hundred number three matches number three smitty. Give it to me baby. I actually had J. Koto Bucci Jiwan climax final who Jay Briscoe Bucci and GM climax final. Okay why do you feel this. Does your number three the match quality in general now Kota Kota Bushy usually is really flashy and just had a strict straight wrestling match. Were Jay white in A. J. Watt is one of the most underrated heels professional wrestling right now. J. Phenomenal in ring. Hinted talking guys when he was done it was a message that was worthy of the final Nick Kofi and Daniel Bryan Wrestlemainia so good yeah Great Great Story Line Great Build. I'M NOT GONNA lie. I knew that they wouldn't take it away from him but there was a second debt. WWe Had me sitting on the edge of my seat thinking that it was possible that they could take that match away from Kofi leading up Daniel Title Bryan is Great in the ring. Coffee's great ring it just was a great story and a great moment for wwe and a great moment for that community. You know what I mean and get an. I'm just saying you know like. WWE has been one to not give you know the black stars that chance for me get at from time to time and to put him on that stage. That was a great moment. Got An when you see the look on Xavier Woods face. I mean he was crying when they were at that was Akra. That's a really great moment was hard to even put that at three. But I'll be very honest there. I don't think I don't think we're GONNA have a single wrong answer for the best match because the best match match something. That's one hundred percent pure opinion based you. Can't you can't say that this matters more than this match or matches better than that. Because there's a lot of emotion involved in these matches right. I'm very honest. I don't think it is but I would. I would not look at your idiot if he put that match his number one right right because I also agree that is way different for us as crazy as crackers versus the African American community. Right you saw. That was crying. Orion would go swimmer their wrestlemainia party at the beat up like it was even us man. Like we had to take a second and regroup ourselves. Just get back to what we you were supposed to be wondering grabs you like that right. That is that's what it's supposed to do yeah. Sometimes wrestling have amazing stories. Amazing MM finishes and I agree. That match was really good. One I will say though as not even in my top three wasn't in my. It would be somewhere what I will say that. The emotion of this matches the reason why it was number three for me and Dan at double. or nothing cody and Dustin that match watching it live. I was there live re watching it again on pay per view it. The emotion of watching those two brothers who have two thousand fourteen was it they had a match in. WWe right it was fucking stinker. So it's not like you went into a double or nothing thinking okay. Cody and doesn't gonNA be show stealing nope they were and they. It was one of the things that made you go. WWe needs chain stuff because Dustin Fifties Zina's fifty. Yeah Code eases younger brother. Right upper thirties low forties. I don't know exactly what their mid thirties. So so these are two guys that should not have a match. Steel it steel show stealing match right but they did because there were things in this match. Catch that we're amazing. A Canadian destroyer. You know the blood in bust-up Does so plus no one else sees the bottom line is that Ah Sarah One guy. Let's be very now two guys 'cause I would never in my life. Think cody Rhodes is going to have a show stealing match. I would think cody Rhodes is going to have a good match. I will think it's going to be damn near blemish-free but I have never once in my life even watching even watching stuff post. wwe where he did have more freedom have gone. Goddamn cody road match the fucking best male wrestler of the year right. No I haven't personally. Smitty has on his list of top three male wrestlers in two thousand nineteen because of the things. He's done outside of the ring you know so but this match watching it. Everybody who watched it you sit there and and especially at the end you know that somewhat end. So that's why it's my number three match codeine Dustin double or nothing Smitty your number two jotting Oregon over Adam Cole. Two out of three falls and exceeding over New York why it is what it was one of those pretty much almost blemish-free matches and it will over an hour and I really it was one of magic emotionally invested. You Nick My my number. Two was cody and Dustin. I didn't see that match in two thousand fourteen. You've mentioned Many people I think you're slime matching summer slam like pre shore right. It'd be good and to be honest. I wasn't really all that overly excited excited to see it at double or nothing. I just like okay cool. There's more all out then all in you could say that. See what she did stupid but by the time the match started and by the time we were halfway through and by the end of the match with that Promo well I mean everything just blew me away and that right. There was one of the moments that I was like. Okay if this is the type of shit that we can expect to to see from e w then this is going to be big so at that time. Yeah Definitely that was the match. The night that's the matches of the year My number two is exactly what's mini hesitant number. Two Culverts Gargano. Two out of three falls take over New York. Same thing somebody say I. I really can't go into any further of other than just it was it was classic. Finish to great feud and definitely deserving of ending and what has transpired since was a great call by triple H in annexed t four annex. So I won't even go any further into that that because I think somebody encapsulated that perfectly number one best match twenty nineteen smitty. What she has at three and two I was is that mostly invested in the match was great as well what the roads rather versus? Those are nothing nothing. Ah We suggested this like I was like trying my best to get something that that was the first came to my head when it came to twenty nine the best match. I kept roaming through the websites and I'll start looking at magazine. That was good. That was good but nothing capturing me as much as especially the an Dan Promo and The the finishing the build a bit like dust is like this is my last ride does my last the lake the store it it was just almost perfect and right next category made you think this is what. Aws is going to be now even. Ah I can't agree that it's an eight of US coming up shortly. I think w earth is. Set the bar to have a either you at times. I represent our nick. Your number one match of two thousand nineteen my number one matches. What you guys had number two Call Gargano For me this this one I for some people especially me I wanted to see Cole with that title and had CIAMPA taught gun injured. I don't think we would have obviously seen it as soon as we did But the match quality both dudes worked tremendously in the ring. There were so many close falls in that match. That really brought you off your seat in a way that you really get when you watch sports you know that I just was completely invested in one of the matches of the year. You're that had me more excited than any other. I mean it just it was great fantastic. Curently see too much more because you both at the nail on the head Nice. My number one match is a match that also has my number two male wrestler of the year in it and that is because each go Kada verse we'll Osprey at the g one climax This is a match that you could watch not knowing any storyline for new Japan. And you will sit there and see how it starts off. Technically strong with counter with wrestling moves moves into high spots that work with with the match that have focus a storyline in them. Two spots that you. I don't think I've personally personally have ever seen so. If you don't know anything about new Japan Okada's finisher. Is the rainmaker clothes on gets behind you. He wraps his his left arm. To get your right arm. Yeah and opens you up and brings you in for a clothesline with his right arm. And that's his finisher at ripcord finisher so that sets up one of the best counters I've ever seen to that and it's because it's will osprey will osprey turn that into a standing Spanish fly. He literally adjust flipped over and connected a Spanish. Fly on the fucking Matt. He didn't jump from a rope. Nothing and I'm just like Holy Shit. That may ECE I have ever seen in my life. Randy Orton countering the fucking curb stomp into an Arcadio. CEO At wrestlemainia thirty one. I'm not if I'm not mistaken. We launched them off selves back. Because I accept cash in one because that was the opening match to the main card wrestlemainia thirty one I believe is what if not wrestlemainia moment one of the best counters. I had ever seen everyone at the time when you look at it like Holy Shit. It's the Best Arcadio right. 'cause randy is known for our nowhere are Cao's because they're supposed mostly counters. His finisher is basically a counter. Her well Osprey does that Arcadio cutter but he jumps off the bottom the middle roller because Oscar and then hit the hits hits the fucking cutter and he hit one. He jumped off the barricade and hit one in this match. It's it was the end of this match was one of the best finishes to a match. I have seen let alone the entirety of this match. Everybody needs to go fucking wash this match right if we don't know when it happened it was July I twentieth of this year the middle of the year and the g one climax so if you have new Japan if you don't have Japan find it July Twentieth Kazuko Kata. We'll offspring watch the match and I dare you to tell me it's not one of the best matches you ever seen. A lot of people ranked really high this year. I'm really mad that I agree with Dave Meltzer. The pest mentioned the year. But it's just so good to walk hard all new Japan right but at the same time I knowing that Dave Meltzer has a hard on for Japan in a w is the same reason why I hate agreeing with him sometimes. 'cause I don't WanNa feel like I'm falling into Meltzer but I can't argue. It's a damn damn good fucking match. Okada Osprey g one climax all right so let's do a quick rundown of your top match top three matches of the year so many number three two and one three versus white g one climax number two two out of three falls Gargano coal. Let me see take over New New York number. One Cody Dusty W. A. Kofi and Brian Wrestlemainia number two who was Cody and Dustin at double. Nothing Number One Adam Cole. Bay Joining Genoa next he takeover in New York number. Three cody and Dustin double or nothing number to call Gargano two out of three falls takeover New York and number one. 'cause excuse Kolkata. We'll offspring g one climax. It's going to the best paper views of twenty nineteen number three for you smitty Number three I had survivor series. Okay survivor series It was isolate. It was like a breakout for an see coming onto the network. Television was nice breakout for them. there's a lot of people that you probably know I know of that might get some major exposure and got over real heavy guys like keithly girls like we are Ripley like both people got some Nice Oshawa throughout the whole weekend especially at survivor series. Cold cold done was fucking fucking instant classic. Nice all right nick number three double or nothing lot of hype going into it and for me. It started off a little. It was unfamiliar because I wasn't really too familiar with a lot of the faces in there but make sense all right But the build throughout the whole paper you just kept getting better and better better And then all the talk about Moxley is he or isn't he. And then you know there was There was a time at the end of that Jericho match which against Omega where I did think okay. He's not coming because Jerry was in the ring long enough to where it was like. Okay they're about to go off the air here here. This is and then all of a sudden camera pans to the crowd that was one of the moments of the year and it was Moxley and I did I marked out. I was like Holy Shit. It this is happening. Is there that all compass really good pay per view. It might number three for their nice man. My number three three hundred. Nineteen is Wrestlemainia. this wrestlemainia historic as we said it many times earlier the triple threat women's match to Main Lina Vent Wrestlemainia Kofi Kingston. Getting his win over Daniel Bryan and I agree one of the better matches of the year. Then your Bryant definitely put on a clinic with Kofi Kingston in that match starting off with so. Many people wanted to see seth rollins beating brock listener to kick off Wrestlemainia. What a way to start at fucking pay per view that pay per view was really good top to bottom? You can remember the first match you remember stuff in the middle and remember the last match and that's what any pay per view. You should be something that takes you on an emotional roller coaster has its good. Evan flows up and ups and downs and think the fight the fiend his entrance. That's the first time we saw that whole cane twice you can't wrestlemania again. In Twenty nineteen was one of the best paper views out there period. Many your number two pay per view of twenty nine hundred number two was was wrestlemanias Wrestlemainia in I was more so lately said the emotional investment I had especially with Kofi winning and that moment alone. I don't think I until I will make a Washer. You know I don't remember anything else that happened on that show. It's an I'll have to go back to low and making watched it in that in. What if you get into motion capture me mostly us out of all the rest? I've watched over the years and are just I'm just GonNa make a moment to capture me and keep me invest in invest me that much to your product that special special and that's why Wrestlemainia like you had the one moment we're GonNa go back and watch like Oh that was. That was still pretty. That was so good. That was still good but that one moment that one wrestlemainia moment in the event I liked the main event in good botch finished. We go to be dead horse but overall problems you could your number two nick. I do have to agree with both of you. Wrestlemainia three Oh sorry Wrestlemainia for me number two like you were saying you know. Start to finish rush kicking off with a bang. Seth rollins halfway through. You know you got Kofi winning the championship and you know it just not only because it's Wrestlemainia but it it really was something that you know a flashy wrestlemanias or a little bit. They fell a little short for me just a little. Yeah this one definitely Was One of the better ones we've seen in a long time. So I definitely got my number two My number two is a pay per view that It came out of nowhere. Like you weren't expecting anything to be this good from this company But it has in its. NWEA's WWL into the fire. I think Top to bottom what a great show. That was NWEA definitely came out out of nowhere this year with their youtube. They started with power on Youtube and late into the year. But it doesn't the reason Ria Ripley didn't touch my top. Three is because while she was still really good in the latter part of twenty nineteen. I think it was basically based off of the bill of someone else I think without. Shayna baiser rea- Ripley cannot have been as good as she was. NWEA had nothing nothing. There was no build or anything from the past like the only thing that they had that happen in this decade. That made any sort of major significance. Is when Cody Rhodes had the NWEA title it after all in right like think what Nwea they made meant major mentioned again right skirl kind of you know he fought for the title. But nothing at the Sean that cody and all all this had at all in but then. NWEA power started and it felt fresh felt new and it felt retro but but new so it was weird and then into the fire was just St- every storyline that power built into the fire finished perfectly. There wasn't a you can't say you watch in the fire and go. Oh that was weird. It was great job by Corgan. LA- Ghana Maureen all those people involved at NWEA including a champion house in K.. Nick all this Aaron Stevens it was it was beautiful. It was a beautiful thing. Masterpiece love wrestling to watch top to bottom and again like an arcadio out of nowhere and you Never WanNa pay per view for twenty nineteen double or nothing all right w another hit my number one because what we still don't know what to expect to e w at this point and like I said earlier a set it set the bar. I think a little too high for eight w like start to finish. There was not one METRONET card. I can really say that I this. I didn't enjoy as it up. On the cody. Cody versus Dustin tag match rather than The Bucks Omega Jericho. For the title. The pairs of Moxley. It was so there was so many great moments and so many great matches that went on throughout that Oh show so inch finish neck number one I have to agree with what you had a number two with into the fire And it wasn't at first but then I went back and watched it again. It was still great. Don't get me wrong but after watching it again. Yeah when you really think about what. NWEA did this year. Such a short amount of time. Hi you know what they start like in September early September and the bill that they had with The different matches and like you said they. They put a stamp and close the door on those story. Lines in a perfect way Everything in in In a grand and scheme of things like a total package again that they're doing and put into that pay per view was spot on all the way down to the price. You had a chance to get it for twenty bucks and if missed it is only twenty five. That's the price you paid back in the day for pay per views were twenty five bucks had four of them ear and that that to me again as as a whole even the ending at the end with the surprise of skirl coming out I mean it was great Agree agree yeah. You're right but my number one is actually spent. He's number three and that's W. W. Survivor series because what that to me signified was a true change in wwe. I understand that it may have been. Hey we gotta get more is on an xt on Wednesday. So it'd be w vince is a man that is best when his backs in the corner right and he can come up with some of the best stuff. You can argue that. Vince is worse own worst enemy but he's also is best fucking friend because he has to sit there and he goes. I have to do this after this I have to do. This can't lose. I don't WANNA lose. Don't want to be the bad guy regardless Vince wants. You can say Vince loves playing. Vince is the best he'll in the business has ever right. You can make one of those arguments but at the same time. Vince wants to win invincible. Put anything over that. He knows was he needs to put over for Fan Service and I'm sorry survivor series was wwe fan service and and well put together. Fan Service like you said Smitty Colin Dunn Instant fucking classic even after wargames right. Great fucking mashed. Watch rea- Ripley keithly. These are people that looked strong. But also put over by other people. Seth rollins is one of your top guys. Definitely your top guy on raw keith. Lee pinned him. Roman reigns may be keithly but God keithly looked amazing against Roman reigns fucked spirit bobby auto race. It is beautiful. What survivor series date is? It made you think. WWE maybe turn into corner and then TLC APP still you're at survivor series. And the end of it you a really fucking happy you were. You Sat in your chair and you go and you just sat back I. The reason is number one for me personally is because while we have events that we do for the big four. We don't really get to watch much of the show. We keep an eye on it. Obviously because we have to know and stuff but I was excited to sit down and really watch this and then even re rewatching it still had all of the emotion of all partially watching it. I haven't done that with any other. Pay Per view right at all this year. My rewatch is never been as good as my original watch. And this one was and I've seen into the fire a couple of times and it still good but but never once encapsulated what. I did what I felt when I wash it. It's still up there. I'm not saying it can never. I'm not trying to say it sucked at all in any point because I watched it on my mind so really good. She was like you said Nick. Same with sets many about Wrestlemainia survivor series for me. The second the Second Watch again in the Third Watch. Because I've gone back can watch it again. I've just been man. I am so happy. Ww gave this this year. Because without that I would have a lot of doubt I mean if you're looking at Ron smackdown back down. You have a lot of doubt about w but survivor series. So does the best they do and these big pay per views gives me a lot of hope for twenty twenty twenty in wwe. Because I don't think any of us are going to think. WWE's atop three and our next category but sure as shit could be if they keep doing what they did survivor series and some of mania. There's a reason. WW Some of our top pay per views this year man. It's not like they suck overall. They're really fucking good when they have to be and I hope in twenty twenty. Vince feels he has to be good because we can have some of the best. WW product product. We have had since the ruthless aggression era the attitude era in the golden age of wwe. F- whatever it was almost bound for glory on his list. Many run back your three two and one best paper between nineteen survivor series wrestlemainia double or nothing nick. Double or Nothin' Wrestlemainia into the Firefox Wrestlemainia into the fiber into the fiber her to the fiber new theme song for Fiber Dot Com into five five fiber into the five spire. God damnit almost said it again number three wrestlemainia number two into the fire and number one survivor series. Best paper Twenty nineteen now. We go into your best brands of two thousand nine hundred number three for you. Smitty impact wrestling okay. Why actually really fucking surprise you number? Three I was expecting to her one but go ahead of threes again. Because was it a match match. Quality is always on point. Weather's two weekly shows or pay per views They consistent new fresh storylines the destroy the character storylines very well In a e even have a part of it where you have like a Jo say tickle what type stuff they make it work okay also also and you so badly and they also have one. I think one of the best. He'll factors in one of the in probably the best selling professional wrestling again. lovie okay number three a e W W.. Okay there was there was a lot to You know like we had set a couple times early day. SET The bar high. I was covering nothing. There was a lot of hype going into that. Pay Per view for quite some time And there were a few low moments you know. We weren't really too thrilled with fight for the fallen or a firefighter fast. all out was really good And full gear was really good and you know some of their most of their TV spots since they started in early October. Were really good so I I'm hoping for more out of them. That's why I definitely can't put them as two or one because there is only a handful of great moments Ban Number three for sure all right doug number three for me is same. As Smets. Impact wrestling impact wrestling as overall show is spectacular tackler. It's it's something that when you pay attention to overall is you just just sit back in your ear enjoying it and you can't really have many bad things to say about and from the stars that are getting over from the stars that that are already there have been over and other companies. It's IT'S A. It's a great melt of everything so that's why it's also my number three Smitty your number two. I see Jesus Christ the same fucking lists and probably why do you I think the same list. An INNOC- twenty nineteen was a survivor. Series the climates of a coming out party for an all right to their many loves a good climax from coming out. I am cracker Rosengren right into the new year. Same Smit words. Mikey Gaidar. Not that there's anything wrong. With what was he like you. Ah One of the best facts to professional wrestling undisputed era yet guys like you got you got some rising stars in guys like keithly confused velveteen dreams been hurt for like the second half of the year. He's the T- still somebody talk about. Throughout the year yet. Another put companies put bovine putting over the Joshi like you gotTa Sarai Qarase. Ain't had a good run. Their Shane obeys ler is been a really good. This is is a salad Brian. It's been a solid brand for a long time and this year. They finally gasoline shine. Nick Nick what's your number. Two Brown and Purple Fruity Pebbles. I would the doctor. I should be always create that much. fucking colored sorry African American food and X T is my number to all the things that so many just said their pay per views reviews second what altered when you look at their level of their their paper views off shine nearly anything. That's out there right now. Their weekly television product though shows are pay per view worthy more often than not The majority of their talent is is just top notch. I mean from top to bottom. You really can't find many things that are wrong if any what that promotion so keep talking. I got up children so yeah man I I And coming up to this year I hadn't been as familiar with an x t as you guys have. This was really my breakout year. Coming out of the closet and climaxing with an x t so Yemen and X T. I like the way you twist that not let away you twisted right so apparently in number two as well Mikey yeah. It's probably because of the same reason. You guys Sorry I'm trying to fix the Microphones Zeki Gaulan because the studio skype thing doubt so. I don't know why but I'm trying to set up so a microphone could be on next to my phone. My phone side of what is out of. Yeah but that one's way more difficult to get to because of all the wires and shit. This one was difficult to handle a little. Somebody feels about all that he take all right. I'm waiting for you to call my phone. And then hopefully this will work because it's right there all right guys. Eight of Annex T for having one of the top matches of the year to have one of the top reviews of the year even though it wasn't in my number three annexing eh takeover New York was still really good. And you have to. You have to think man. Annex T E every pay per view every takeover was better and better and better and better and better and then takeover New Orleans happened and now every takeover house goods compared to take over New Orleans right. NFC takeover New York was back fucking tagging. It was it was the fucking fucking it was actually if Wrestlemainia didn't have all the emotion it gave you take over New York would have been the pay per view of that weekend right. Here's the like what the reviews I don't think he's airways I think of as networks special steel. That's why I say we're here with us. I actually looked up paper views. Now man big shows big shows twenty one thousand nine hundred show. Yeah so annexed number two because of those reasons number one smitty new Japan pro wrestler. Who He didn't say it? They don't have this. I interview with your newspaper wrestling. I I like those tournaments. I like a a pencil. The attack those tag term like the business super junior's the g one climax. This year was fucking phenomenal The Best of the superheroes phenomenal music. He's involved in anything that climaxes and out of the closet. Let's it's like they'll just like they had like up meltzer's heart off a new Japan Academy some hard year. Hard on climaxing in coming out. Bari's take care. There's the pitch as who has a slow curve. There was real easy to write down main street lagging Louis Topless will will Osprey Osprey is killed it Japan this year Kodi Bush's who finally made a commitment to new Japan. Man Killed it this year. Dues Make Commitments Tetsuya Naito. I can't pronounce his his name Right. Now Czuczka Okada Jay Whitewater say underage heels and professional wrestling today Like the talk to talent goes in bullet club. The girls like stuff like that. Yeah all right. Are you done that one nick number one. You sure you want me to do this. I know you're gonNA blow my load but go. He's got asthma. Ask You got it right to save that Z.. Snow Gelo those bitch a whole fucking bottle at your own house aims. Save the last of that frazee. Damn you're a Dick a look. He's A. He's Joe Selective racism as selective date. You always select dig anyway keep homecoming. NWEA came out fucking nowhere. They came out of that closet. And they just splooge foods all over my fucker base and Smitty lifted up Top Fuck you. I mean you only come coming become on you know like the taste do you. Don't know he's never ever tasted it. Always shoots right into the back of dethroning every come good okay And W as my number one they They did come out of nowhere and honestly up until fuck a couple days before you were. We're like hey man watch NWEA. I had no idea that they were going to be such a force and and be something that I mean I just was like okay like this is just for me out of nowhere and I've been hooked ever since every weekly show into the fire. I'm ready for hard times coming up later this month. I said I was done. Start laughing have have. You did whatever I'm nearly every character on. That show has me by the balls else. It just I can't really say enough about it. I'm very impressed with their champion. Nicolas I wasn't too familiar familiar with him literally at all up until four months ago Mr Mickie James and Why why what? Yeah that's really. Yeah no shit okay. He's not really commute. No no no the guy from our was but I I really like his character as a heel but he's like he'll with a heart full if there ever was one adorable but yeah. NWEA WWL top to bottom number one promotion There it's not a wide margin. It's not a big gap is not a big hole in between these two guys I mean mean between Mwa and an X. T.. It's a narrow margin Nick I agree with you. One hundred percent is the same as above annex t for me Smitty your points on new. Japan are one of the reason why it's my number four overall because I agree. It's a great fucking promotion to watch. Gosh I don't think yeah but I don't think anyone can be would be wrong in any of our lists same as the best match of the year certain promotions do it for you you and Nwea is the one that really did it for me because while New Japan kept with what they did they still didn't do more than what they did the year before you know what I'm saying and I feel like that was a huge misstep Them I don't think they truly recovered enough. From the loss of Omega leaving leaving to to where they have stepped up into the Upper Echelon Same Annex T. I think annex t is still trying to get out of its own shadow. Granite did a lot man jumping up to USA and everything network. I think it's not bad. It's great fucking overall. NWEA did like Nick set in such a short amount of time. It's it's truly. I don't think it's it's something that could be done again. I really think it's one of those moments in history realize. Wow that was amazing. That is a once in a lifetime thing to watch and and I'd be shocked if I watch something else a grant again interviews been around for years but they've had since was a belt where belts. The champions fought in other promotions to end their belts championship wrestling. Hollywood was like the last place in of ship title four-minute of ring of honor. So that being said there was there was NWEA titles there was no in Wma promote promotion and then power happened and that was it. Set it off and into the fire was another great moment the pay per view wise. They just they did great man very happy that Nwea's around and doing doing what it's doing so that is why it's my number one promotion. Best Brand of twenty nine thousand nine Smitty. Give me a rundown again. So I had impact connects T.. In New Japan Nick. Hey DUB AMEX T and n w all right right and me Impact Annex T. NWEA as well Next category the favorite moment of twenty nineteen eighteen all the other categories. We had top threes. This one obviously. I highly doubt we're probably going to have the same things smitty. What is the best thing about wrestling alling to you in two thousand nine hundred? And what is your favorite moment. My Favorite Monitor Twenty Nine thousand nine hundred is Kofi winning the WWe championship at Wrestlemania. I cannot reiterate how much that meant to me as african-american in general so long this company I mean so long as wrestling and thirty years old. I've never seen the. WWe championship does the company's been around almost sixty. Something years is the first time they put their title uh-huh onto a black man if you want to rock the rock claim some on before queen black anytime there's different. There's there's a difference of four flash African American nothing NEPOMUK from Ghana so he has a village with Africa naive American advocates Africa. But they put like me he from Detroit continue. I am doing just that emotion that emotion beat out the double or nothing and everything else. What's that came throughout the year? These that group that ran into star but that was just a big. That was the biggest one for Nikki number. One moment of twenty twenty nineteen honorable mention. Jon Moxley now my number one moment. But that's honorable mention and showing up at AWS AWS governor My but my biggest moment And you guys will disagree but I think Jericho winning the title at at all out was for me. It was like Oh thank God because you know I know that we have ups and downs that they w right now they're in S. learning phase with trying to establish their identity and who they really are even though they think they are one thing but they're they don't really prove that all the time If they wanted to keep the momentum start a momentum whatever you WANNA call it. They had to put a title on Jericho at all out and they did and for me. That was like that. That's the start of something good. Even if it takes five five years ten years it will also nothing life and that helped being mikey worth three rows away from that. That's a history making moment. TV Lot taught us that belt. Shout Zebras Zebras. Starting to pursue quick side cast. Zero's just read because they've done all the impact belts. They just was repainted. Them All impacts that all the bells went from blue to red now man. Zebras did a great a fucking job. That's what the hell access. Yeah that so. That was my moment of the year. Just another one of those things. That was an all encompassing being there and it was hard you know maybe my mood might. In a week I could feel differently about one thing or another but to me. That's one of the things usually a little bit menopause manpower. Yeah Man in the House you can only get hot flash since he's missing all showtime sorry. We Love Y'all way more but My say Jeez teasing accuse how dare you be anyway. My favorite moment for twenty nineteen. I'm Roman honorable. Mention is Roman. Hit Remission in February. I thought that was a great real life moment Definitely was major but my favorite moment of twenty. Nine thousand. Nine is what led into my favorite paper view of twenty one thousand nine and that was the smackdown show right after Saudi Arabia. I said it earlier and I'll say it again Vince. Vince McMahon when backed into the corner is one of the best things wrestling has. Vince McMahon wrote that smackdown show on his plane when he found out that his wrestlers weren't making it back. That smackdown show is not supposed to play like that and we all said it was probably the best smack down in the last ten years in the decade and and I feel sure easily of the year but definitely probably one of the last ten years maybe even more what that smackdown did is an excited. Did you have ignited you and it made you so happy to be wrestling fan because you are watching a real invasion ish you know everything let you hope that invasion of WCW would have been to wwe with but the big stars were gone. They want over. They didn't your goal because they've seen Gobert. I'm making money. I don't have to be there. They were getting paid anyway. Why would you want to go and put your fucking body on the line when you're going to get paid that money no matter what you're gonNA fuck in in void the contract you currently have to sign one with? WWe right fuck that. I would have sat back to. I'm not even arguing that all Hogan Nash All all everyone every big name that WCW had so bitch every big name that WCW had that did not show for the w the invasion into wwe is is what you got with that smackdown after Saudi Arabia. Big Name's Shayna. Baiser Adam call your top guys are. They're doing it going going through it so to me. My moment of twenty nine thousand nine is the smackdown after Saudi Arabia the is here lays Hulu version of the show. Give you the WHO version. We're GONNA ask your questions and you could just give us your hoover's because we're gone through every category up into the the best moment of two thousand nine hundred we haven't done the decade yet. Okay so your top. Three starting at number three male wrestlers of twenty nine thousand nine. Three two and one Write Anything Down Adam Cole number three Number two would be Daniel Bryan MHM and number one would be Kofi Kingston okay number. Three two one is three two and one best female wrestlers twenty nineteen would be not. Shane obeys ler number. Three REA- Ripley number two And Becky Lynn Number One best match of twenty nineteen nineteen. I write this one down. Just give me your number one unless you can rattle off three to one number three Walter versus pedone takeover New York office. Aw Yeah number. Two would be the extreme or the elimination chamber math. Wait takeover you mean. Are you talking talk about Walter. I Tyler Bates versus pizza. New York over New York and Number One would be Kofi Kingston Verses Suitcases Daniel Bryan Wrestlemainia. Okay top three pay per views three two and one of twenty thousand Survivor series number. One Number two would be into the fire and a number three. You would be double or nothing. Okay and you're go. Three two and one best brands of two thousand nineteen and x number one raw slash smackdown number tubes. I mean and then Awa number okay and Your favorite moment of two thousand nineteen. Why then you're all caught up favorite moment? Twenty Nine Thousand Nine is when Kofi on the belt the rest media historical moment Great Match Great Bill. Everything everything that culminated in that moment. Do you have an honorable mention for moment. Honorable Mention for a moment would be the invasion of smackdown. All right now now. We're getting into the worst moment of two thousand nineteen final category for best of worst of year. Smitty what is the worst moment for you in two thousand Nineteen Helena. Hello Brian Versus Seth Rollins. Okay why every everything in my butter after watching this talking about this right now. It was weird because he's a bottom pretends to be adopted. He's dully bottom nick. Worst moment of twenty nine thousand nine the wedding this past week. Really Yeah I I like the Lesbian Eggo. I fucking loved everything about that when I felt really uncomfortable. Most in fact we've planned a lot of my wedding around that you'd can't. I just hopefully lot of makes me angry. Her MIC skills are getting worse. Oh it's not the fact that she doesn't use the Russian accent wall not only that I mean it's always let him talk she rubbed off Lashley's black fucking makeup all over face and it just it was a real l.. Shit show I mean it was. I guess you could say it was so bad. It was good but it was the low point of twenty nine thousand nine hundred z worst moment of twenty nineteen and not to be dead horse but definitely the hell in the cell ending The the the no contest Helena just made no no science and by far the worst thing. That's happened this year. Outside of lot of only using Russian accent when she says the word. Russillo Russillo Sir. My worst moment of two thousand nineteen is something that has killed a promotion for me and that's the officiating and w everything there hasn't many single time and we have come on this air including now and not had something negative to say about the Awa officiating from people staying outside of the ring too long to do people being blatantly hit by outside people in front of the referee to referee. Not Calling a three count. When someone's shoulders didn't come up off of the Matt It's it's just so every time I wanna Love A. W. something happens with officiating so blatantly bad that makes go god. Damnit fix this so to me Awa officiating is the worst thing about twenty nine thousand nine because again it made me go from we all set double or nothing. Set such a standard such a bar that we were even kind of like all right the efficient use a little off but still fuck yeah. Let's see what they're doing in. But that was okay for a pay per view right not not in every night and it's slowly slowly killing off to the point where even Chris Jericho held a team fucking meeting said. Hey Honeymoon's over over fix this shit it's not making sense and it's not because again with all of this is the first fucking company is going to be the most the biggest uproar in fucking world and he's going to be healed. It's going to be the biggest. He'll turn in eighty W to that point one. The Raffaele calls a D- Hugh. When did he do that team meeting meeting? I didn't go home December. Yeah good but I mean. AWS turning into spot fast. And that's kind of killing it for me too. Because is that just the rafts. There are other things with that promotion. where I'm like okay? I was excited. You know kid on Christmas like you open the box and then it ends ends up not being what it was like the off brand of the twin but no-one battery yes. That's a much better the job this stirs dis. Of course you've got these mom dad you suck 'cause dildos all all right now we're going to go into the decade top five wrestlers of the decade the top three matches of the decade your favorite moments of the decade and your worst moments of the decade. Again if you only have one for the moments or you have honorable mentions. That's it's fine as well so we're going to top off smitty number five. Who is your number five wrestler of the decade two thousand ten two thousand nineteen two thousand ten thousand nineteen directors down? I hope so five for five. Two one five five five. All right Mike Elegant okay. Why because my elbows are torn up? In New Japan start up in a pro wrestling he's still fraternal Wesley. Know of like no matter where he goes. He's hi caliber match set Guy I can never ever complained about Michael match. Uh and that's longer than ten years at this point now Nick Charlotte go the woman. She's been the most consistently good woman woman on that whole entire. WWe Annex t raw smackdown whatever roster. Multiple title runs She he had a brief stint as a face. Here and there that worked at worked But I would definitely say just to throw women in there. I throw at number five because she is so okay we so by just what your last sentence was number five just because you wanNA throw him in there or because you truly truly feel number file. I truly felt out but I did want. I wanted to have a woman in there but she out of the five that I picked. She's number. Five Okay Yep Z.. Bought et I don't even know if I'm doing right. Johnson Johnson. Everybody Johnson and I am championship reigns in the past ten years. So he's got to be on the list somewhere and he's definitely not number one so he could be like. You're not first. You're last I for me. Number five is Adam Cole. It was number three for my two thousand. Nineteen but Adam Cole. I ever three time. Ring of honor champion. He's L. Multiple Championships in that company. Bullet Club member high profile connects champion triple threat triple crown winner to the second one ever. The things he's doing for that company now is something that he was doing for ring of honor when he was in ring of honor. And it's just making it better everything that he has touched rookie of the year in two thousand ten. He's literally been wrestling this entire decade. Only and he is this good good in two thousand nineteen going into twenty twenty so number five for me overall because of what he has done Adam Cole. Bay Smith AAC number four Kofi Kingston Cova Kingston over a decade. He's held that make car together for. WWe The it's been one of those guys that helped make together me for the longest finally had his moment this year There's probably one according to move. He's probably one of the most titles titles over a decade one or the second most titles over a decade and go vs just probably the epitome. You've what are probably the most successful like black superstar fully maximum starting to be history. Nick I I would have to go with John. CENA my nerve. I mean whether you love him or hate him. I mean he's been one of the faces of that company in some shape or form for the last ten ten years he's got tons of title reigns. He's doing a lot of really good things in the community over the last ten years. So he's an overall encompassing superstar superstar number four Z. All right fine nick. I'M GONNA go with Charlotte. I mean she I mean. She hasn't been wrestling his whole decades debut in two thousand thirteen with sunshine. She's held the women's championship ten times. She's held the UNAC- St Championship. She held the Divas Championship inch at one point and she has champion. She has been your top superstar in the women's division. Your benchmarks so to say four D.. Entire fire time. She's been wrestling so she's got to be on the list. My number four is the idea of rock and Roller Chris. Jericho Chris Jericho. I started off this year Fighting with his tag partner big show and since then has held top titles and wwe he he has held mid card tables and wwe. He's held mid card titles in new Japan wrestling he's held top titles in eight. E W Chris Jericho no matter where he goes changes the the fucking Game New Japan got some of its biggest buys and biggest attendance. Because Chris Jericho announced he was attending a wrestle kingdom. A few years ago and new Japan caught more fire they had some magnetic kindling with bullet club. And the bucks and Kenny Omega and all of that there was the smaller kindling when it was. Aj Styles in the bullet club. But the minute. Chris Jericho showed up in new Japan. A full-fledged fire burned for that company and Chris. Jericho has done that when he said he was signed. A W everyone was like. I'm watching eight W Chris. Jericho got that title. You said it yourself nick. Top Hop in your top moment of the year Pucca Sad Z.. Is because he's got none of the bubbly and even have a bit of the bubbly wasn't even good. Yeah this shampoo. Uh He didn't Smitty and he looked out of it though. It was just like a cat but yes I haven't been drug this year yet. So you know it's forty billion so yes Chris. Jericho has my number four overall wrestler of the decade gate. Smitty give me your number three number three. It was your number five was Adam Cole. Okay why US pretty much like you brought up. Because he's only been in a game for ten years and he's accomplished so much these at first three time. A reminder champion was part of Bull clubbiness peak pro because in the PUC. I think that's one of the old man. He had a mega cody. And all those guys with with the bullet club and he's always always been a great hand for the Panama City Playboy. Hey boy. He's always got whatever gimmick like. There's not too many people that get your own fucking name over. Maybe I nick your number three. My number three is under five as well. I Adam Cole I've only been familiar with him for a short time. But I've done some research and like you guys are saying he's been around the block and everything. This dude touches terms the gold and he's in in that short amount of time to be skyrocketed to the top of all these different promotion. She's been in and be such a prominent the character. You cannot put them in your top by. This is so weird that the son of Michael Cole has done so much. Despite who is very what I was GonNa fucking came to me. Who's your number three Michael Jackson for all the same reasons they they just said? I mean I'm not going to be at horse. They've covered it. Adam Cole's number three my number three is a hot fucking take and it's going to Piss some people off and I don't give a flying fucking fucking shit. Rock Essner is my number three sure. He is not wrestled this whole decade sure. He barely wrestled this whole decade. But it for the most part a strong majority brock listener has had a match of the night card moment in I annual Brian. Aj Styles. John seen things he has done the undertaker's streak alone shot. Let's rock listener. Her has changed a lot of structures brock listeners. Contract made a lot of people go. I can work less and get paid and yes it happened. You paid way more. There are people that are working less now in. WWE and are getting paid the same randy. Yes it's and it changed changed when you had a star like brock. Leser come in and do that other people's like well. I do this much for the company I should also not have to bust my ass as much and yes you said it brand New York when he wrestles he's great. It's not wrestling as much anymore. But still really good so broccoli to me but ran is one of those people that have done so much is that I mean not saying that. Brock hasn't but Braxton had a different kind of draw in itself but with guys like Randy. Randy's dawn everything. The thing there is to do so rainy Kinda gets to pick and choose what he does. Now Yeah and that's fine and he can because the money because of the money that leser pulled then Number two for you Smitty Decade Jerko. All right Chris Jericho just the fact that he's reinvent himself three or four times the just over the last four or five years now said you think you like no matter where he goes. Does he elevates whatever he elevates whatever companies in and that's all right nick your number two wrestler of the decade. My number two is brock for everything you said I mean he's a huge draw. Still to this day You you know. He the fact that he ended the undertaker's streak whether you like it or not. I totally agree with what Z.. said that right there puts you on this list list His title rains his. I mean his just overall presence when he's there is big because it's not like okay we'll Brockman gone on for a couple weeks always there All right cool. And he's like okay. Bronx here let's fuck and do this what's going to happen. You know With Paul Heyman at the helm. Yeah yeah he's up there and the only reason he's number two is because it was lack of bid card totals Z number. Two as. Well no I I might. Number two also elevates every company he's ever been and that's a j styles he I mean no matter where or he goes he is one of if not the top guy and it's been that way for as long as he's been wrestling almost so he's definitely gets the nod and number two curse. My number two is a guide that has been running new Japan for a very long time. And that's because Okada the guy whose name Smitty can't even say Kucha Oka- Cuckoo Calcara himself has of many the best matches of the year involving with Kenny Omega. This year with Will Osprey can't deny the amount of titles that he's held the language that he's had them as well he is John Cena of new Japan. He is their face he is unbeatable. He's unbreakable he's untouchable and they he's still when someone does it. It makes it even that much more special smitty and I were talking the other day at work about how this match coming up at the second night of wrestle kingdom NATO has never had the big belt and it's like the second second reign no he's never wanted item. GP literally literally than Google it. Because it says it's a second reign with the title is second with the I would intercontinental. No when I looked at up yesterday a second the rain it's like it's V rain intercontinental title. But it's his second reign as I looked up new Japan champions and under under the last. It'll tell you Naito Championships. Yeah I do too. Yes I was GonNa say I just looked up to at the other day. I don't know what his first reign was. But it saying it was the second reign as big champion so okay but even then I swear to God I did not. I did not know that he held it. I always thought that just missed him. He held it for his first. First Time for seventy days in Jesus Christ where in two thousand sixteen April tenth so he lost it the two months later but again. Maybe that's why I don't speak our talking about barring it aside him winning at wrestle kingdom to hold the intercontinental and the I W GP heavyweight championship over. Okada is does that make naito like the equivalent of ultimate warrior. Now Yeah okay made it such a handover like warrior from Hogan. That's what he talk run. It put Naito over more because it was Okada that he beat Czuczka. Okada has just I run the fucking gauntlet in new Japan pro wrestling. He is just been there guy and he has been putting on match after match coach of the year quality candidates consistently no matter who his opponent is so you constantly have to say that Okada should be in your top top five to me many your number one wrestler of the decade phenomenal. Aj Styles. Why where AM I? REC- your number one and I'm not number two like he was my number one because Lee. He no matter where he goes he becomes a top tier star. And he's a he's the draw is he's just about a big withdraws Okada His Maxwell for icy title what would Nakimora wrestled keenum nine His Matt is matches and wwe even though even on the car he's great make Rj being great top guy. He's got some great accolades. Jericho is a good brother is pretty much. He's like probably almost Ziegler Jericho on where he goes places. Nick your number one wrestler decade. I actually had Jerko. I'm was my number one. He ended the decade on top Everywhere he goes he's he's very well recognized and to take a company like a W I don't think they would be anywhere near ear where they're at now without that dude at the helm Things he did in WWe He reinvents himself constantly and it goes over over really well. It works Yeah Jerko Art Z.. Who is your number one number one wrestler Ben Around Awhile but you know? Does this thing elevates companies see Chris Jericho He. The the guys are all in amazing talent. He's gotten a clipboard over. He's gotten the word it over scarfs. Jackets light bright doesn't fucking matter he does it and he and he doesn't at the top of his game no matter if it's two thousand foot pain two thousand nineteen yet. It just the catchphrases that he comes up with and gets over and the people he gets it just his matches clearly. I mean as he's gotten older have have fallen off a little bit. But the psychology this guy has the knowledge and the physical. You know that's going to happen regardless but his is just his mind is creative. Mind for this business is just. He did a fucking frog splash last night. Ladies and Gentlemen Chris Jericho did a fucking frogs. Okay a guy you don't have to. But he does agree with these oil. We just talked about. How does the Rose Bus Canadian destroyers that fifty? That's that's more. Yeah Sodas Ricky Morton. So He's dinner. said all that means is that anyone in this room can do a Canadian. The person knows how to flip backwards. START WITH SMITTY My my number. One wrestler of the decade is right in line with committee's. Aj styles the exact same reasons that everyone has said Aj styles is on their top five list. Why eight hundred number one to me? Because I don't think anybody could have done. And what he's done and still give the match quality over everything because while Okada's doing great at number two with his match the year contenders every year. He's doing in one company. Aj styles over this decade has done it in TNA. New Japan are W W everywhere. He's gone he's at match of the year quality contenders and held top titles in these things. I can't argue it at all no matter where you put if AJ styles is in in your top five wrestlers of the decade then you need to stop washing fucking whatever the hell you're watching A.. Watch yourselves full Charlotte out and put it in there. Then they think nerd you know. Aj Styles had had a match of the year contender with stink. Start two thousand. Yeah and then in two thousand in sixteen seventeen seventeen. He was in the Royal Rumbling at Rob Match of the year with John Cena again. Just great stuff. Now we're GONNA go into our top three matches of the decade Number Three Smitty. What you've got is unpopular opinions on these ones That's number three was with a time of a Tigers Michael's at recipes. Twenty five or twenty six. Twenty five doesn't count. Twenty five is two thousand nine. We're starting in two thousand ten. So twenty taker versus Michael's twenty ten of retirement match. You had a retirement match. The wrestling probably is my favorite of all time. And just his last rat and have the match will take her second year street and there was a thing was the best way to say about it. I'M GONNA rain. which is not if they said fucking Saudi Saudi money because it wasn't his last match? Saudi money pays bills all right number three another popular opinion Sammy Zane and Kevin Evans from two thousand sixteen battleground. Oh Wow dude. That was at a time when I that's right. When I started to to get back into wrestling I was only watching the pay per views at that time? Few pay per views before that were in twenty fifteen But that match natch it blew my mind the way that these two worked so well together there with such good chemistry. beat the fucking snot out of each other. The match went good. I WanNa see it was a little over twenty minutes. Great Fuck match a little suggestion of if you want. If you actually like those guys chemistry look them up on Iraq Amata Ladder Wars Kevin Steve Versus Generic Oh okay Z number three match of the. My number three match also includes Sammy Zane but it would be Sammy's versus Shinsegei and Shinsegae's annex t debut voice Partly because up until that match it was a long time had passed that. I've seen a match that complete and it was. It made knock more look like star. Not like he does now on the main roster here but that match was just awesome. Yeah knock more angry with him. Coming over from New Japan one of his last matches was was with NATO and it was for for the icy bell and that was a classic and him coming into an xt. Great Fun Kalsi. All of them were great calls because I agree background forgot about And you can't argue Michael Tigar in any top match but my number three is something From New Japan and it is the fourth match in the the CZUCZKA Okada Verse Kenny Omega Series. And it's the one at dominion in two thousand eighteen. Where Kenny Omega finally? Beat Okada Four. The I W GP heavyweight wait championship in a two out of three falls match They went into this match one one in one and it was a fucking wrestling classic. I I could not when re watching it. You know. We talked about it. Back to the days like Meltzer's is fucking. Blew his load on stars for this match right. It was I'm GonNa give you all of these thirty seven star eight star whatever the fuck. It was And we were like man. You're an idiot for saying it's that much but at the same time I I also would have understood the five star because to me that I think it was one of the obviously. It's one of the best matches the decade one of the best matches of all time in my opinion It deserves to be up there and Omega finally getting that title that he was alluded him for so many years. was a great finish a specially to see quota Bucci who came into the business with and the young bucks who part of the elite that he's in the business with and getting even more over holding him up was a great finish. A moment went to that match. Smitty number two match of the decade. You know number two okay and you like Kenny Omega Chase that typhoon ad for game or a year and a half two years and he got it even though he was supposed to come in as as he'll match kinney was so so over that there was no he'll yeah it was pretty much a face on face match at that point and it it was I would say there's nothing as flawless in his world. Yeah destroyed the match ups like King. All he did was hit that one we angel and he couldn't get cooking. Get it for some reason have started to match like you that one of the most devastating move. You've got the surprise roll up. Yeah so it was a really stands out the decade neck number two match of the decade. AJ AND DEMON FIN TLC couple of years ago The match was Kinda thrown together last minute and and they fucking put on a show and I was excited for that match. It was one of the ones I was looking for to see in the most. Wouldn't you know finally got announced and it exceeded expectations and I went back and I watched some of the matches that they had over new Japan and Fergal the book room. Yeah and it's I just. I was really glad that. Ww put that together the way they did and and it came through Z number to match the decades John Cena vs Daniel Bryan Summer Slam. Two thousand thirteen official birth of the S. movement Daniels over clean. And that gets robbed by Randy Orton afterwards but the emotion invested in that match and you could just feel it in I mean I wasn't there but like watching it. You feel the emotion in the crowd and everything so plus it was really good wrestling match twenty thirteen. Yep Yep For me the number to match of the decade is Sasha Banks Versus Bailey Takeover Brooklyn twenty. That'd be iron woman man The one no no one. We're baileigh finally took the belts So again another match that culminated in a story that had been built for so long. Sasha already being part of the main roster and going back to that it was just a match that fuck in they on TV. He W W television. They're talking about the women's evolution and things like that but an Annex T. Those girls did it already. You know this is an Italian Talia the four horsemen of next. T- were rocking the fuck out against each other with each other no matter what and I feel that this match did so much for wrestling for women's wrestling for everything on a mainstream scale because we you can't deny. WW did not. Let's start the women's evolution in wrestling. I truly believed that's TNA thing with Gail Kim and all them grows over there Awesome Kong buffet it. WWe Did on a much grander scale. And I all it's been a theme of date it's as if it transcends one company into mainstream stream this did it and it's from annex t that transcended so I had to give that number two sweetie. What's your number one rookie wine like the story? Like Eighth Story. Love Bailey to death as one of the most even those stat. Wise She's held that's McDowell awesome of most of the year. But this is where like this was Bailey's coming out like Bailey's a real force to be looked at it's at this company company in general not just in a future. She's a she she's more than just her but stop. I love that ass better the bubbly. Nick what's your number two one match of the decade Kofi Daniel Bryan Wrestlemainia. This year. I think the story leading up to it the way they inserted Kofi into it. It all worked flawlessly the way like I mentioned earlier when we had that smackdown or accident. Yeah and I I really did feel at some point. Maybe they will take that that chance away from and they didn't and the motion that was in that match great fantastic Z number one. Match of the decade. My Sean and taker team that up Shannon taker. I mean just by US last time. I got to see Sean Russell on a high profile match and left it all on the table. So it's great match of the series of especially like in this decade of takers wrestlemainia matches still still this day. The best match easily easily right agreed and he had great bounce a triple H to follow the two years right but motion every like just when you add up everything like the in ring. Work the storytelling D.. Motion the moment like it. It was all just there. Yeah and then. That's just furthering your point with. It's not like because when you can think of takers. Current run of matches where there was hit problems lackluster but he did have really good matches after this one. It's not like he just had injury. Old Guy Moment matches to where there's nothing to compare it to in good wise. That match was really good and I fully agree the of the decade takers best mania match. Yes my number one match is something that caught everyone out of the blue while he was not in my top five wrestlers and he was mentioned by you. Guys Mr Johnson did put on a match with a guy in money in the bank. Two thousand eleven. That's my honorable mention for number on fuck off the roof. Cm punk winning the WWe championship campionships when storyline wise had not signed a new contract. Even though he signed the day. Oh shoot wise day off so that story never was wrong then in twelve o one. The next day he signed them morning of of money in the bank Alka and got that belt and put off. It was just one of the best matches. You truly didn't know how many times in wrestling are you watching a match that high profile. And you don't know what's going to happen. That even played it off after like the fucking the end overall the following day. And then you're like okay. Seen It. Yeah it was it was great array WanNa and then took it back and it was. It was a match for the ages and for the long long his time was the last five star match that melter gave wwe until annexed takeovers in a couple of years ago. So you're talking like a good seven year run where not not a single mention. WWE had a five star. Eighty nine hundred eighty four. If we're doing a top five that was going to be on my list. And so was taker and brock just for the moment right right now. There's not. That was a good match. Yeah but for the moment of losing streak and all that it it would make the time. And that's why are we saying earlier. Man these these matches I know so many US some hot takes too. But there's feelings emotions in these matches that change how it it's looked at for. We're not talking matches technical standpoint. We're talking the best match us over the decades if Seoul technical standpoint I dared there'd be a Tyler Tyler fucking. Walter was one of my honorable Memphis for a bolt here in a decade. All right give give me your favorite moment of the decade in wrestling. And do you have an honorable mentioned before you talk about the honorable mention. CFO pipe bomb. They put a lot is back on wrestling at a time where people were not watching Milka. But I'm still GONNA say Kofi winning that title still still throughout the whole decades. My favorite moment okay. Nice Man Well before we started the show I said it didn't have it wasn't a match I think for wrestling as a whole. WW introducing the WWE network is is such a step forward and it's Kinda fallen short for me because I I still think that people more people could be watching and I know it doesn't make a lot of sense but I i. I didn't watch wrestling for the whole decade. You know what I mean so for me to say user was my favorite moment of the decade Giving more and more people this easier access and that started a fucking trend of and all the other shit that I didn't have I mean that just is a huge door for wrestling fan and I don't think that I mean there's obviously wrestling moments. That are better than that. Of course but when you look the decades Z.. Your big moment of the mix over here. Taking notes of our favorite matches. I I was that I really did. Yep moment of that decade hands down is brock beating streak now I I don't I don't think there's been a bigger shock in all moment of I mean not only the decade but I mean up until that point like like nobody believed it. I didn't believe I mean we were. We were silent. We're ascending b-dubs completely silent. Like what the fuck just happened will end. That is something like as an adult. That doesn't happen to me in wrestling. Because I know my like as a kid of course because I was naive and I you know believed half the shit on the screen as an adult like I still like. The story story are in the creative. And all that but this is a moment that definitely caught me and if you can catch me and make me be like what the fuck like. I didn't think that was going to happen. Then that's a good moment. That's what would have been. I would have said because I knew it happened and then went back after the fact you know within the last three years and and watch that and even though I knew it happened and it still caught me like the whole the whole arena was island like everyone would just call it their mouths and your honorable mention that one hundred percent I see. What is your on a an honorable mention? There's something else that maybe moment of the year would be. I mean the the next thing would be Kofi. Okay I'm as far whereas like historical value in shock and not that. It was a shock that he won. But you know what I mean. Shopping my moment of the decade I let me give two honorable. Mentions stuff that I I really wanNA mention these because there's things that I thought because it's all emotional moments moments Daniel Bryan returning being able to come back after concussion problems for as long as he had them was something that when you watched it you fucking teared up Yep Mark Henry's retirement speech retirement speech. Oh the salmon jacket jacket where it turned out he fucking hit Johnson any hit John Cena with the fucking world's strongest slam. I think might be one of the better swerves of all time in wrestling history because I want to sing. Fuck a person that saw. What about what about retirement and edges retirement and when I'm thinking of moments that's another one like when I'm thinking of moments I'm thinking of Positive coming and that's how Daniel had to retire. Tiered Sean fucking fucking shit as I was thinking it would be like the announcement of E. W 'cause you knew that was a game changer in the industry but but isn't it kind of early because because it's already kind of fallen it hasn't really changed anything other than it's changed the way people are getting paid but also locking them into long contracts of sitting at home so my moment of the decade though goes to something that truly did hit every emotional corn I had and that was cody winning the NWEA title at all out all in Raleigh and the fact that he was now holding a title that his father held that another generation. Pass that on. It's one of those things in wrestling that got. Charlotte is a top tier contender gender. But she'll never hold the world's championship like her debt. I mean maybe he could come around do that but currently. It's not a very likely possibility in anybody's children I it's it's dusty Rhodes is number two on that. NWEA title number one being flare right so now again if Charlotte comes through and runs an NWEA and she holds the NWEA tidal title bone. It's these echelon of your offspring and your kids are doing it and I'm just like cody doing that. Hit so many emotional levels for me that I could. It's as a fire changes you. You know what I'm saying because you're like man. Imagine my kid doing something that everyone thought I was one of the best fucking beans like Michaela coming in here winning the BDR bell right dot or fucking podcast. Fuck you get better than me. Yeah you're right. Cody winning that belt in defer this decade was just you can argue it's recent and it holds more but but I just feel like that's spectacular homage to dusty. It's so it was real. It was great. Okay Smitty Gimme your worst moment of the decade because man. I can't wait to hear these really. I would hope so worse. Sousse hundred right. I've been saving worst other Dick. Come back come back to the only one time the final fucking thing. Committee's not ready for it. One thing since New Year. Same Smit this the worst. Yeah I even told Nick in the beginning of this I was like you've coming. The worst categories like shit fucked me because it was the most difficult thing to figure out in two thousand nine hundred and the decade but man. I love the one I picked nick. What's your worst this is GonNa? It's probably hot take gender Mahal becoming the WWe champion. And I say that because not very long before he became the champion he was Priyanka. Joke jobber and you know there have the people that have worked their way from jobber to below mid card to mid card back down to jobber and back and forth earth and have paid their dues and gotten these opportunities and still didn't get a title shot that have way better work rate than gender Mahal that way way moreover either way he'll or face way moreover than he ever was and they're just like here you go and then they took took it away from him whenever he lost I think it was. Aj style as as other imagery. And we really ain't seen him since I mean for the most part he's a fucking ghost really see sing brothers right REC- gender at this so to me. What a big fucking waste of Zillow in India deal off the ground for me and for me as a fan waste of fucking? I liked it. I liked it because I thought he was pure as fuck in an old school. He'll be up. I got real heat fly. I like that run not go away. Corbin had for awhile. He's from you kgo eight five. Yeah Z.. Worst moment of the decade An olive wrestling the floundering of TNA. Okay I mean they finally impact is finally gotten on their feet again. It took a lottery building but Anne Hardy it. Well yeah but it was. I mean week after week they were you know taking money from tail and say we're losing this. Dixie wasn't helping dixie. I mean really the worst moment of the worst thing of the decade was probably the floundering of TNN mini got something Ah The misuse of talent and wwe. Okay in general There's a lot of guys that had gotten so over right. Have had the rug pulled under a mobile dickey There's a lot of guys that problem. We thought that that company never never listened to the fans for their own interest. First this stuff like that. I guess we the worst moments most worst thing monitor decade so yours plays into Knicks. Mine plays into scenes Z's the beginning to me of what happened. TNA before it came back and it's really funny that you you mentioned the Hardee's because the biggest problem with me was Jeff. Hardy versus Stink ochre Stinger Jeff. Hardy came to the ring drunk. Fuck metal all you haven't bursting victory three road two thousand eleven. It's bad. Was it signified everything that started to go to shit. Shit wasn't that. What what Dixie jared came out and pretty much tolstoy's just roll them up or something like that something maybe before the match paving? Hey you can watch fucking youtube. I actually haven't minute Glenn. Close ten minute clip. Why because the matches like four minutes of it it was an absolute? She'll absolute fucking shit show. It was like Matt Hardy versus edge if they were both drunk and high it was bad to format it definitely started. What was the absolute tried to stay around? And what's funny is Jeff Jarrett or it is the one that was like all. He's wrestling drunk in the ring. And then you know a couple of years later who's entered Rehab none other than double Jay so housing housing eleven three road. TNA Jeff Hardy versus staying the worst fucking moment of the decade honor oblige in the return and fail of the angle career. He came back out of retirement and it was great and I was happy and I marked out and then he had a couple of matches is an hour notice. He's stopping George Shoreline. I E one of those matches was good. That's like that first match back. When he was with the shields horde his next x match we all said well my God angle moves like that for this run? We're good and then he didn't again. Yup I was okay. A lot of people were pissed off at Corbin finished them. But Ah your back man. Sorry on his back and he put over Corbin and one of the top heels and it's just another thing that long list that Corbin says when he comes out that gets them he right. He doesn't Mitch the retirement often anymore but he used to be he always got so much shit. Yeah I was GONNA say dog. I'M A I'm a golden glove winner Blah Blah Blah and. I retired colonel and got him heat and then he started his little list of like. This is what I did. And they boo him. Yeah which is really funny that that was part of one of the pay per view that all of us were like the top fucking pay per view of the year. One of the moments. I'm ladies and gentlemen. That's it for us next week when we come back. We're definitely going to get into a lot of the stuff that's going on. We're GonNa Talk Wrestle Kingdom we're GONNA talk impacts all five days of it. We're going to have a conversation about the upcoming bill to royal rumble. Broil rumble again. We're at a huge party with our boys knock three counts at Buffalo Wild Wings in downtown Detroit January twenty twenty six second floor huge fucking party come on who you shoot so big. We're going to build a wall around eight. No one's GONNA be lead in if you're committee is not allowed me. 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Royal Rumble Reaction and Q&A - Notsam Wrestling 275

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Royal Rumble Reaction and Q&A - Notsam Wrestling 275

"Introducing your host from from New York. Here is rovers coming to you from Huston in the very rude state of Texas. This is not sam wrestling a very special post royal rumble episode of Nazi wrestling. So look we're just coming coming off the royal rumble and I did I opened it up to. QNA so we'll get to all that. I opened it up on twitter Hashtag. Not Sam wrestling. So many go through the Hashtag tag and look at all those cues and give them as but man. Let's talk about the royal rumble. And I don't WanNa take away from worlds worlds collide worlds collide tremendous. The eight man tag was just above and beyond what anybody could think it was. I Dot Andy Sheppard. Did a great job on the kickoff show for only doing his second kickoff show I thought he did good but the royal rumble was to me so far above and beyond what I thought it would be so firstly you know I like to pay attention not just to how I feel about shows not just even how the fans in the arena feel about the shows I get this unique unique position of getting to hear how wrestlers feel about shows and about matches and and one of my favorite things to see is when the wrestling fan comes out in people that work in wwe because because realistically speaking. Ev I mean anybody that's got a job where you started off as a fan whether you're maybe a writer and you know you grew up journalists or I'm sure athletes get the same thing or anybody any industry that you work in that at one point you were like oh I would just love to work in that industry you grew up you know just really having such great admiration for the people in this industry when you do it as the the job it becomes a job becomes your day in day out next thing next next but there are moments in wrestling what makes wrestling special. So is there a moments in wrestling when it will draw out that fan and you even if you're an adult even if you live eat it sleep breathe wrestling. There are moments where the magic comes back and you see that in wrestlers and people who kind kind of work backstage in. WWe And it's not all that often it's gotta be pretty special but the royal rumble is an an example of that. I felt like I was watching the royal rumble this year with a bunch of fans and it was all people who work in. WWe because we all had the same reaction that I would hope that most of you had you know I posted something on twitter. And there's still oh people that were kind of I duNNo. I got memes in response. And sometimes it's difficult to read memes because I'm not as annual and it becomes very very difficult goal but like when I post this was the best royal rumble in years and I get a response of Steve Carell from the office cringing. I assume that means I disagree with your statement. I can't see how it would mean. I agree with your statement but I can't see how you wouldn't agree with that statement I made but let's take it from from the beginning so getting to the kickoff show again at the royal rumble. This year with Booker T and Rene and getting to walk the isle. Oh and to stop our truth from entering the royal rumble and and to be the a panel. Let's be honest between the two panels. The number one panel channel was so much fun and when I tell you by the way that everything that the three of us did on that kickoff show it was off the cuff. I can't understate or overstate that yeah. I can't overstate that. I can't overstate how off the cuff. It was to the point where some of those segments were not even in the plan some of the segments that you saw on live TV literally it was us and the producer talking right before and going. Let's do this and then doing it. But when you when you get to work with Booker T and Rene young you can pull off stuff like that. And that's my favorite way to do things when you can just trust the people that you're working with and you trust trust the producers that you're working with Mike Mansouri and you can just go off the cuff and have a good time doing a show like this because you all know what you're doing doing and you all know what you're talking about. It's just so much fun. It's it's almost like radio. I mean that's why when I do these podcast. Almost never edit anything I recorded boarded. As if it's live I love doing live radio. I love doing live shows with wwe. I loved the the you know. The Kickoff Sherzer live and I love when we get in a position. Addition where it's like. Hey here's what we WANNA do. Let's make sure all the tech works. Let's make sure the Mike's work you guys. Good Okay we want okay. Let's go and we could just go. Oh and that's what we did. I mean even with the truth stuff. Just go just be yourself. That's why you know everybody says Oh. Oh you're he'll turn and they were booing me in Houston and all this stuff. When did you win? When did they make you turn heel or SAM's doing a bad job of being a heel? That's that's not how I he'll is supposed to act first of all the idea that you want he'll to act in a way that's comfortable to you so that you don't dislike them is not a heel if you want a he'll to act like an eighties wrestling. He'll so that you know what is in that way. You know. You'll boo but not real not really boo. That's not a he'll he'll is somebody that you actually don't like and secondly of course I'm not a he'll under the baby face. I'm not a wrestler. I'm not a competitor. WWe comes to me and they go. Sam We want you to be yourself. We want you to be the same smart asset. You are on the radio we want you to just state your opinion. You don't have to worry worry about it because I'm not interviewing people I don't have to sit there and be just sit there and give me your opinion. What do you think of this? Do you think Brock Doc Listeners GonNa win the Royal Rumble. Yeah I thought he would. I was wrong. Anybody beat brock listener. No Do you think that Daniel Bryan's going to beat the no of course I don't think that and here's why you don't have to dance around and you're supposed to put people over. What does that even mean? Put people over. I don't even know what anybody's talking about anymore. Nobody knows what they're talking about but that that was a thrill as it always is to to kickoff show matches great and dry day going over Umberto talk radio and shame defeating shortage but the royal rumble pay per view itself. I thought the energy regime in Houston maintained for instance last year did not maintain so by the time the men's royal rumble closed the show last year. The crowded kind of died. I'd off but there were a couple of things that has a pay per view. The whole show did very right number one. They kept it to four hours and who would have thought and and in and it was only two matches instead of three matches on the kickoff show so it wasn't an overload. It wasn't an over stimulus it wasn't as some people would say too much much birthday. It was just the right amount of birthday. Who would've thought only a few years ago we lived in a world where pay per views are three hours and pay per views with three hours? Oh and pay per views user three hours. That's it to get to a place where we're like if you can do a big four pay per view in four four hours then you're on the right track but that's what they did. Four hours was perfect for tonight's row rumble. Show to get everything in and get everything right. Four hours was perfect and every match mattered. Every match had a purpose. Starting with the Roman reigns means bearing Corbin match. You know if you're GONNA do a falls count anywhere match in a baseball stadium. You might as well pin a man on a dugout. I don't let's see why you wouldn't and Roman reigns getting the decisive victory that he needed you know. I thought that was the thing about that match. That Roman reigns who Who since he's returned hasn't gotten a title match? He hasn't been in contention for the universal championship or the wwe championship Barron Corp beaten them. A couple times Barron. Corbin's got his number. He needed a decisive win. Overbearing Corbyn in this match. Any he got it. I this tells me it might not be over but I thought between him Baron Corbin which I think it should be. I think you know the story's stories been told But I thought the match was good. I liked Roman reigns his attitude now and he had the attitude in the royal rumble match to because he got some booze. It wasn't like the rain of booze that he used to get but he got some booze like enough that you really heard it in that stadium but he was mean you know. He wasn't kind of being charming. He wasn't smiling like he didn't look like he was worried about being anybody's poster. Boy He looked bad ass at one point. We're getting ahead of ourselves at one point in the royal rumble match when he's going back and forth with edge and he's getting ready to spear edgy shouting. It's my time and it wasn't in a cheesy way. And it wasn't in a way like he was trying to gain the audiences support. It was in a fed up way it was in a enough like he was frustrated that everybody was happy. That edge was back because Roman felt like he hadn't gotten his just desserts and I thought that that was cool. I liked it. Roman ed was mean. It's like not worried about about making sure that everybody liked him that he was just an ass kicker and that's what I think Roman has to be. That's what he was tonight or whatever you're listening to this at the Royal Rumble So I thought that mattress great going into the women's royal rumble match I thought that the mattress paste. Well you know I think that it. I think that the thing about the women's Royal Rumble match and people booed Charlotte. And I guess we'll go right to the end end because I thought the one of the best parts of the match was Charlotte's Promo either. The finish was interesting because it almost became a thing where Charlotte one because you really thought Shayna Baiser was GONNA win when everybody thinks that somebody is going to win. I do think it's better that they don't win. You know when the Bait Vegas betting odds have Shane baseler winning and the Internet. Thanks Shayna bazars GonNa win win and you know we talked about it on Thursday on the podcast that when I was going over my top five potential outcomes for the royal rumble. I said you know Shayna is number one because show probably be the one that wins. But I wasn't even like it was my prediction. It was just the prediction. It was what everybody was kind of thinking. So I like that chain a didn't win but still look dominant. Look I think that if you look at that Royal Rumble match the two people that really came out shining more than ever was bianca. Aca Bel Air and Shane Baiser. The whole first half of that match was all about what a star Bianca Bel Air is. That was a crystal clear that was what that match was built to become the first half was built to be a showcase for Bianca. Belair and I thought she rose rose to the occasion you know. She ended up getting eliminated with through a very dumb mistake by going to the top rope. But she's inexperienced you know. I think that there is a good cohesiveness happening between the brands. You know we say well. Vince controls Ron smackdown and triple h controls annex. T and it's two separate but there is this agreement and familiarity with everything that's going on where it's very helpful to annex t that Bianca Bel Air looks super strong in this royal rumble. Match number one to get is on the product and number two. I think the Bianca Taylor's performance in this royal rumble match lens a ton of credibility to her match with Rear Ripley takeover. In two weeks I think that And that's I don't think that that's the kind of cohesiveness that you might have expected without feeling like annex t is becoming becoming raw and smackdown light which it doesn't feel like that's what's happening so I think that that's a very good thing. I thought there were some fun surprises. Kellie Kellie coming back molly. Holly coming back Naomi was amazing. That's not a surprise. I'm really happy to see. CEO Me Back Who else was there in the women's match Oh yeah I thought Santino spot was funny. I guess some people probably won't like it but I thought the Santana's spot was funny. And how impressive was Beth Phoenix. The Copeland family shined at the twenty twenty royal rumble. And who would've thought that is a sentence that we would be saying. The Copeland family shined bright leg diamond. Anybody that's wondering why Beth Phoenix doing commentariat annex t first of all. She's pretty good commentary second of all what allows her credibility is what we saw in the royal rumble. Why Beth Phoenix is in the hall of fame take a look at the royal rumble? The length of time that she was in that ring for somebody that doesn't actively wrestle at all any more was incredible she. I feel feeling Beth. Phoenix could be an active competitor today. If she wanted to be the emotion that was all over her face throwing the Talia out. That was another another thing. There were some real long-term stories that were told in that women's royal rumble. Match Santino Morella and and Wrestlemainia from nine ten. Eleven years ago and kind of hearkening back to the story of Beth Phoenix. Six and Santino. I think it was two years ago. That Natalia eliminated Beth Phoenix kinda turning on her and then Beth Phoenix Cenex gets her revenge. This year. I mean how amazing was it that the final three were Shayna. Charlotte Beth Phoenix. And while I I don't think anybody really thought best finish was GONNA win. It's only because we know she's not an active competitor. If Beth Phoenix wasn't a commentator and she you just come back for this pay per view I think people might have believed that she was really going to win. If you said pets have you said today. Oh Beth Phoenix is coming back to be an active competitor. Nobody would scoff at that especially after that. Performance issues bleeding. I couldn't tell why she was bleeding. The whole time but bleeding from the back of her head so yeah I thought and then Charlotte winning. Here's why liked not necessarily why like they're winning. But why I liked what happened when Charlotte one the booze that rang through that stadium the minute maid park in Houston Texas were similar to the booze that rang through the Wells Fargo Center in Philadelphia. When Roman reigns one the royal rebel and I was at both shows what everybody says about that Roman reigns? Moment is Roma turned heel. Then I'll Roman should have acknowledged the crowd out in flipped him off or Roman should've said regardless of whatever you think I'm going to Wrestlemainia Blah Blah Blah. But instead he just you know tried to keep being being a baby face. And that's the whole problem with Roman reigns but how about the fact that Charlotte who was already kind of half a he'll anyway Charlotte just already healing out on the whole audience. That Charlotte said it doesn't matter what you think 'cause I don't care because I'm going to Wrestlemainia I like you. You know people try to immediately put wrestlemainia together. As if it's happening in three weeks they go up. Well I guess we're getting Charlotte and Bailey or up in Charlotte and Becky like the person who took the smackdown women's championship to Wrestlemainia. Last year was not the person who held the smackdown women's championship at Royal Rumble before Wrestlemainia. We've got this show in Saudi Arabia. Ah the end of February. We've got elimination chamber in March. And we've got many episodes of television many many episodes of television. So there's plenty of time for stories to be told and there's plenty of time for title changes to happen. I would imagine the Becky Lynch is GonNa Carry the women's championship to Wrestlemainia. But you know I could absolutely see Bailey. Losing her women's Championship I don't know you know. I wonder who I would have Charlotte face. You know because I am kind end of in agreement that I talked about this on Thursday. I don't think we need another Becky Lynn Charlotte match but theoretically could probably be built to be compelling. They are the two best. That's why I don't have a problem with Charlotte in theory winning the Royal Rumble. Because as I said she was one of my top five potential outcomes. She's do a win when you look at that list of which women of won the Royal Rumble. It's weird that even even though there's only been three now it's weird that Charlotte did not win. Either of the first. Two Charlotte is as is close to A. I don't want to say a female Hulk Hogan just because Hogan was such a cultural icon but Charlotte is when she's not champion. She's kind of the uncrowned champion. Charlotte is the face of. WWE's Women's division. Becky Lynch is probably a bigger star. Becky Lynch is certainly more popular but in terms of long-term Stars Charlotte is right there and it is odd that she hadn't royal rumble before this even though there's only been two And it makes sense that she would win this one. I wouldn't be shocked if Shane Obeys Ler. Were to either work her way into a triple threat match. And instead of doing Becky Bailey. Shayna you know we did Becky Charlotte Shayna you know. I wouldn't be shocked if that happened. It feels very similar to the main event of Wrestlemania last year. But I wouldn't be shocked to see that happen. I I also wouldn't be shocked to see. Shane beat Becky. I mean not becky. I would be shocked to see Shane. Dana be becky. I wouldn't be shocked to see Shayna beat Bailey and still do a Shane of Charlotte match. Because as much as I want to see a Shane Obeys Ler Becky Lynch match at Wrestlemainia. That's showdown at Royal Rumble. That face to face between Shane obeys lawyer and Charlotte. It just looked like I dunno all these thoughts came into my head when I saw Charlotte and Shane obeys ler together. Like like this women's division that we know it today was based around was built around Charlotte. Charlotte was the star. You're that the modern day. WWE Women's division was built around and Shane obeys. Ler is the spoiler. Shane obeys. Ler is the polar opposite of Charlotte Charlotte. But she's on beatable. Shayna baseler has the ability to come in and take advantage of of two division that Charlotte built. And there's nothing charlotte can do about it. That's the story that started formulating in my head when I looked at Charlotte Arlit and Shane obeys. Learn together. And that's the match that I kind of fell in love with. I would love to see us. Get there somehow although you could do if you're gonNA leave the title on Bailey Bailey versus Charlotte and then becky versus Shayna but I do feel like Shayna. UNIVERSES CHARLOTTE is match that I wanNA see. And then maybe becky and I wouldn't mind seeing becky and Sasha banks to tell you the truth maybe they do the old flip flop again. Who knows who knows? But that's the thing there's a lot of time between now and Wrestlemainia and I think that's why some people didn't like Charlotte winning the women's royal rumble is because there isn't this clear built in story leading Wrestlemainia. You know what I mean. There isn't this clear are built in. Here's exactly what Charlotte is going to be doing. But I don't think that's a bad thing I think it's okay to tell that story between now and then especially because Charlotte didn't say which title she was going to go for. Who knows? Maybe she'll go for the next tidal. We'll see ripley versus Charlotte. We've seen crazier things by the way. I did not hear of any confrontation backstage aged between brock listener and Matt Riddle. I know that the websites are talking about it but didn't happen around me if it happened. Daily beat Lacey Evans. I wasn't I wouldn't say I was surprised by it but I also wouldn't say I was not surprised I could've seen that match going going either way but I kind of like the Bailey won. I kind of liked that. She's having a longest run with the title and especially since that happened after the women's royal rumble. It wouldn't fit into my story line of having Sasha banks when the women's role rumble anyway. I thought they did a good. I thought the crowd was interested. Did I loved the strap match between the fiend and Daniel Bryan. I mean Daniel Bryan is very very good at taking audiences on a ride with him I think. WWe Did a very smart thing in keeping the red lights off the match. And I don't know if that's going to be a permanent thing. No more red lights or if that was just for this but I think that the reason or at he's one of the reasons why this match specifically didn't have those red lights is because of the red lights had been on. We wouldn't have seen any of the welts on Daniel. Those red welts that were just raised across his chest and back from that strap. We wouldn't have seen any of it in the red light so so I think that was smart and I just think it's smart you know. I don't think anybody I think the majority of fans are not into the red light being on throughout the match matching they did the same thing with Kane when Kane I showed up and they were establishing the character. They had red lights on his matches but then once it became a little bit more serious and he was having higher profile profile matches. It was like okay. These matches aren't just about showcasing. Cain we're telling a story now so let's take the let's take the red lights off and they did and I think that that was the right call but I thought that matched it a lot for bill. I think Daniel Bryan still leaves his a main event caliber guy and I think the fiend looks even more unbeatable than ever. And I don't think the people really take into account. How much Bray Wyatt has improved? Not that he was ever ever bad. You guys know. I've been a fan forever. But because he's wearing that mask we almost associated him as a totally different person. But Bray Wyatt and the stuff stuff that he's doing now is so good. It's amazing but I thought I thought that match was good. I was happy the fiend one. To tell you the truth because it made it. So that what I said on the pre show was right and I love being right. Becky Lynch retaining against Oscar. That was another match that there were moments where I was like. Oh my God. Is Oscar actually going to win. Is Oscar going to win this match here right now. She going to be the raw women's champion and I don't remember who tweeted it. I would love to give you credit for it but I don't remember who you are. Somebody said like couldn't. Couldn't you have done Oscar winning the title from Becky and then taking nap to Wrestlemainia and I guess you could have. But I think that you want becky going into Wrestlemainia to be this becky Lynch you know I. I think you want becky. The champ going into Wrestlemainia. I think it's actually a more compelling story to have becky not as this unbeatable baby face champion and then maybe have a great obstacle in front of her like they were pointing. They tried to make Oscar. You know the one great obstacle in front of Becky Lynch when in reality Oscar had more had more of a reason to have a grudge with becky ski than Vice Versa in my opinion but I think that that's probably more of a story that should be told. You know I don't think that you can pull off with the amount of work you've done to make becky this huge star. Since last year's Wrestlemainia I don't think bringing her into this year's Wrestlemainia Samania as an underdog would work at all. I think she's got to go in as champion and I loved the idea of Becky walking into Wrestlemainia with the title. Then she won at last year's Wrestlemainia you know and then and now be can she hold the title for over a year. Well in order to do that. She's successfully defended against whoever whether Shane Obeys Ler. Whether it's Charlotte you know. There's plenty of people that could potentially face becky Lynch wrestlemainia. And that's definitely only something that I think is going to start to take shape as the weeks go by and then the royal rumble match itself. Man I was talking about the last great royal rumble match was only two years ago I thought twenty eighteen was really good but this royal rumble match was the best in in years I think. Twenty Royal Rumble match. It's already on my top five for sure and I think it should be on just about everybody's top five I would love to. Maybe maybe a on Thursday or something. I'll pull up that list that that guy emailed in ranking his all of the royal rumbles of all time and the order in which he liked him and figure out where twenty twenty fits in. Because I definitely think it's gotta be top five. I mean what a journey we went on so we go in and brock listener comes out at number one and just start dominating dominating everyone and I love that they did for a good amount of time you know I thought obviously when allies came out as number two I I said okay. That's slim pickens. Unfortunately allies doesn't have much of a shot here. But I thought when Eric Rohan came out at number three I said okay. Now we've got a big standoff standoff. Now it's time now the rings are GonNa Start to fill up and it's going to be a little bit tougher for brock listener but he gets knocked out. John Morrison gets knocked out. You know it looked like I hit. The John Morrison took was nuts. MVP MAKES HIS SURPRISE appearance. He gets knocked out. I mean there were a ton of just just one. After the other I loved that you know Kofi got a little more time in their. Unfortunately Kofi got did dirty again. But when when Biggie Kofi Kingston and Ramos Stereo together and it's like Kofi and his friend Biggie and Ray mysterio Kofi and ray the two people most recently that tried to conquer after the beast and just weren't able to get the job done well now they're together. They've got brock listeners. Number they got the experience they know what they need to do. And they go in there and they. You can't get the job done. And you thought that they would when they were doing the Trifecta when Kofi at him. And then Biggie lessner and then they ended up on the ropes and the six one nine nine comes in and then brock able to get back up and throw all three of them out. I mean poor biggie. Forget about this is not his appear to be a single star. I don't think that's going to have to come later. But Brock for as much dominating as he did in this match the guy. If you really pay attention to what you're watching the guys ability to sell is ing credible everything that you think is happening to brock. Listener feels real brock. Makes you think I think that it's real. And it's through the way. His body reacts through the way he goes down like it's all every time he gets hit the you feel this wave eve of momentum because the crowds like Oh this is it and you could see on his face. He didn't expect it. His facial expressions are perfect. Haven't when Keith Lee came in and they go nose to nose and even though Brock's calling him a big guy there still some doubt inbox is and when he gets knocked down with that second shoulder block he. I can't believe it I was like yeah. Perfect it's all in Bronx face so good then when drew McIntyre finally comes out. That's another one talking about facial expressions there was no acting in drew. McIntyre's face yes when he walked down that aisle and he was just staring a hole in brock listener and you felt it and then he got in the ring and you just watch brock listener. Just destroy everybody and just about everybody was smaller than him. And you realize how big drew McIntyre actually is when he's nose to nose with brock but I'm sitting there going and I was literally about to ask somebody in the room that I was watching the show in it did ricochet get eliminated in the camera. Didn't catch it and then all of sudden boom kicking the Dick kick in the Dick and I know what you're saying. The rule of thumb. Sam Is the good guys. Don't kick in the Dick and while they don't ricochet clearly you know it's not a one on one if if you're doing ricochet versus brock listener it's going to be a fast match and it's not GonNa it's GonNa be a fairly one sided so I don't get mad especially since ricochet got kicked in his Dick on raw. I don't get mad when I see ricochet addict kick in the Royal Rumble. Especially because what it led to the kick brought going over the top rope and the crowd losing their mind and and it was so effective so effective and it goes back to what they've been doing withdrew as well. You know over the last us a couple of weeks on raw where this gradual baby-faced turn has been happening where drew hasn't really been changing as a person but it's making it okay to Cheer Forum and all of a sudden because that's the attitude that's happened when he does this move. Everybody loses their mind and I thought it was great. And that's when it number whatever was fifteen sixteen seventeen maybe eighteen the royal rumble actually finally starts. There was a party hard to me. Going water lasts forever. You know and I think that I think that people had a lot of of kind of negative expectations fair or unfair. You know I think there was a big assumption. Going in that case. Alaska's is GONNA come in. He's going to eliminate brock listener. We're going to build a came Velazquez brock listener match or came. Valencia is GonNa come in. He's GONNA eliminate eliminate brock listener. Cain Velasquez wins the Rombo like we have to realize we're not doing came Velazquez Brock Listener Wrestlemainia. I don't think we're doing drew McIntyre brock listener the fact that that that those seeds were planted and now we have a real will match that it's not just oh well this guy won the royal rumble. So now he's GonNa get a brock listener match. It's already I've got to see this match. I WANNA to see the story. And they're going all the way to wrestlemainia without drew McIntyre ever getting a WWe championship match or or Universal Championship match. So now I'm already sitting there going. Good Lord we've got a match here where were you can't call it. There's no reason to say that brock listeners. Not Going to win that match. He wins all of his matches. But there's also no reason to say that drew McIntyre isn't going to get his crowning achievement. Especially because what happened at the end of the match but we'll get there because the match kept building I thought corporate Baron Corbin got some wonderful heat by eliminating Matt Riddle so quickly dude the return you think you know me. Did it edited at a mazing and some people were like yeah. We all knew that was going to happen. The same people that reported edge was returning. Also reported page page was returning also reported. The undertaker was going to be in. Houston also I mean you know. You can't just take credit for the stuff you get right because you've got everything else wrong. The same people saying edge was coming back where the one thing came. Velasquez was going to be in the rumble. You know what I mean. It's like you can't you can't just just point out the things that you got right. If you're not getting the majority of the stuff right that said edges return learn was huge. He's in tremendous shave and I can't believe how good he was in the ring and I like I like I of. Yeah Okay Okay I liked it. Edge got eliminated because when edge got eliminated. I'm sitting there going. I would be okay of rated R. K. O.. Got Back together but I would it also probably be okay. It's interesting that Randy Orton. Edge appears to be the first program they might be doing based on the royal rumble because every person listen edge ended up face to face with was a dream. Match Alastair Black Roman reigns seth rollins drew McIntyre. Aj styles all of it. But nobody is going to be mad at edge versus Randy Orton and maybe that would be good for edge as he comes back. I don't know anything about edges deal. I don't know if it's going to be full time. I don't know the length of time. I know that there have been rumors around but I don't know anything about it however I would think that because he got eliminated from the royal rumble because if he had won the royal rumble. There would be this thought that maybe edges back to do you know a royal rumble. The wrestlemainia run like some guys do but because he got eliminated it really makes me feel like edges back edges back and I just think that's phenomenal because we thought he was never going to wrestle again. I can't wait to hear the story of how edge found out. He was able to wrestle. Again of of why hi is able to wrestle again of the the whole thing is just. It's so amazing. I'm so happy to see him. I love the older. He's got. He's got a little gray in his beer that he's not fixing. I'll be never fix it. I love old man edge. He's more than he used to be. You've got old man's strength. I think he's I. It's awesome awesome. It's awesome and I can't wait to see how edge the wrestler interacts with the stars of today. It's going to be really really good. Seth Rollins is performance in the royal rumble was phenomenal. It was terrific. I think the the move that was made a lot of things were changed change in the royal rumble. Heavy machinery wasn't in it Buddy Murphy was supposed to be in it. He wasn't in it and it was never explained. Why Rousseff and Bobby Lashley was explained? Why they weren't in it but there were a bunch of Switcheroo made so guys like Shelton? Benjamin could be in there. It could be some surprises. I thought everything that was done seemed like it was done for the right reasons because again this was an amazing amazing royal rumble match. You know I I love the Buddy Murphy. And the authors of pain helped eliminate Kevin and Samoa Joe I loved it. Alastair black that got thrown into the mix and now it elevates him is one of the top good guys on raw. It was a really creative way to get seth's goons away away from ringside and you know it made it so that it made sense. Seth rollins got eliminated right away. He's a true bad guy. The transition has been made and it should have been made. I thought I thought seth was perfect in his role. I thought it was great and then at the very end right. I'm watching this thing and I'm going something tells me that Roman reigns is GonNa win this royal rumble match. Something tells me that the majority area fans that are in this building and that are watching on television the majority of fans I think are looking at this going. This royal rumble match is incredible. This is awesome and I was literally already thinking. I wonder how they're gonNA feel when Roman reigns wins. I wonder if the match is awesome enough off did it could sustain that finish and then when it didn't happen they when Roman eliminated edge. I was like okay here we go. Oh when drew eliminated Roman I went. WHOA WHOA I really could've sworn Roman was GONNA win? And I see the cheers ears and the people in the stadium are actually cheering. The good guy. When was the last time that there was a stadium? Show that the wwe put on the fans. They all went home happy. It's crazy. What are we walking into in two thousand twenty seems amazing? I can't wait but I just thought that everything went. So well. You know we look forward towards Wrestlemainia and you got a question mark for a lot of people you got a question. Mark for Roman reigns got question mark for Charlotte. You got a question mark for Becky and Bay and Bailey got a question mark for Daniel Bryan. You know I still could see the fiend versus Roman reigns happening. You know Roman reigns might win the elimination chamber or something something else. I could still see the fiend versus Roman reigns being your co main event but clearly we're going with drew McIntyre versus brock listener. I mean that's the takeaway from Royal Rumble Anyway and based on what we've had so far I can't wait. I think it's going to be great. I think you've finally finally developed a challenger worthy of the brock listener match and man. You know for all the people that that were going knowing. You've got drew McIntyre. Why don't you just make a main inventor I if it goes forward if it goes as well as it's going going right now I would say it was worth the wait? I would say it was smart to wait. So yeah that was Kinda my my takeaways away from the Royal Rumble. Pay Per view and match itself. I I was. I was very very happy with it. I thought it was really cool. I already see Reports about edges Return and everything but these are just from websites. I was looking to see if it was a quote from an interview. But it's not so I won't acknowledge that but I did open up the floor on twitter twitter. I told you guys to Hashtag not Sam Wrestling and I would answer your questions. Let me click latest and let's see Brock says what happened to. Aj style after the spear from Edge. I thought he was eliminated. No this person and says no Sasha banks tonight that was a surprise. It was weird that you wouldn't at least be Bailey side. I don't know why she wasn't on the show tonight. Andrew do you think edge will have an upper mid card or main event match at Wrestlemania. I would think Upper mid card. That would be my guess. I don't think when when I think main event for Wrestlemainia I think last last match I think title match. I don't think he's going to have a title match at Wrestlemania which I think is good again. I mean I think that edge maybe maybe it Wrestlemainia you're thirty seven wild as it is. Maybe then he'll get a title match. No I think that and I think that's wrong you know. I think that I think that edge. We should spend some time reacclimating the audience to who edges. There are a lot of people watching wrestling thing now. They weren't watching wrestling then so I don't think there's any reason to rush edge to the main event of anything Greenie says why are there only to one or two people realistically who we can see when the rumble is it because booking is so predictable because no one is over nowadays like pick people who and no offense to you buddy. I'm sure you're good dude. I don't understand why you watch wrestling when you ask a question nationally that it makes no sense to me. That is such a negative question. None of it. I mean on so many levels. I find that question problematic. The that you're literally if that's how you feel you're Lord simply watching the show to complain. There are many talent who's over and I could sit there right now when you were watching the rumble. So when it got down to the final five you could have seen any of those five men winning that match and none of them were brock listener. I mean let's think about it without even stretching without even stretching. Okay maybe not Randy Orton. Although why not Randy Orton. But maybe not Randy Orton. I will put Randy Orton in the category of AJ styles where their main eventers any at any point but maybe maybe based on the storytelling. That's going on right now. They're probably not gonNA main event Wrestlemainia this year. Okay that's fine fine. You're telling me one or two people you got that Royal Rumble match and you're still. That question was sent after the Royal Rumble. Magid already happened. You're telling me because I'm assuming I don't even know who the two year one or two you're thinking of was a lot of people thought. Drew McIntyre would win the royal rumble. He was one of the favorites to win the royal rumble. But it certainly wasn't obvious I came up with five very easy very reportable outcomes to the rumble and I just pulled him out of my ass. Okay like you've got brock listener. You've got Roman reigns. You got got drew McIntyre you got seth rollins you got edge. That's five right there right there. Easily easily easily could win the royal rumble. We none of them are stretching. If you WANNA start getting into You know stretching and telling stories then you go into Kofi Kingston you go into big A. I mean there's a Biggie Biggie. There's so many like I couldn't. I don't agree with that at all. Especially this year this year of all years. There have been years in the past where. It's very obvious who's going to win. But that's not even how did you. How did you wear this question? I'M GONNA pull it up to exactly how you worded it. I I mean because booking is so predictable because nobody is over. I don't know what you mean by. No one is over nowadays make. There's plenty of stars I wouldn't that's not even somewhat true and booking is predictable like there have been times where booking is predictable. There have been times where you're it clearly. This is where they're going. But I just told you coming off of the Royal Rumble. Other than drew McIntyre versus brock. Listener you're WRESTLEMAINIA card. Heart is still all question marks. So you know. I couldn't agree with that question any less possibly not not Sam writes in. Sam Do you see the. WWe Women's tag titles being long sustainable as one set between all three brands. If not do you see a D. unification of the belt I or merging of Ron smackdown roster into one roster show one singles in one tagged. No I mean I would see the women's tag title is a floating title still If anything it would end up on an xt exte- which is kind of where all titles ended up going. I think annex t the new cruiserweight championship itself. Look so much better but I liked it. They've rebranded so the annex t logos on the cruiserweight title the annex t logo is on the NFC UK champion because keep in mind the entire tire. Time that Pete done was champion. And even when Walter won the championship he was not the annex t UK champion he was the WWe UK. Champion so I see the women's team title kind of staying as is for the time being anyway. No one roster Mr has enough women on the roster to have exclusive rights to the tag titles. That's why it's split split amongst the three. I do think that annex t needs to see more action with it. I think that the the you know. The KABUKI warriors need to come down to annex t but at the same time. Who's GonNa beat the Kabuki warriors at this point randy says holy crap edges back? What do you realistically see him doing? A wrestlemainia and beyond the a part timer like undertaker undertaker triple H or. Does he return fulltime. I think you're GONNA see a run out of him you know. I don't think this is a Batista thing. I don't think I think that we're GonNa see edge Comeback Jack. I don't think he's going to be back for ten years but I think that I think is gonNA come back. I think that we're going to get some time out of him and then eventually whether it's after a year maybe it's after two years whatever it is then maybe if he still has it in him and still has it in and wants to do it then maybe he becomes a part time person. I don't think there's anything wrong with becoming a part time person by the way I think we as fans king greatly benefit from that but yes I don't I don't see him going into undertaker triple h mode yet and clearly. He's been training really hard and clearly. He's gotten himself into tremendous shape. So I think a lot of questions are going to be answered tonight on raw but coming off of the pay per view I feel alike. Edges Backpack Eddie ask the same question Blake says. Hey Sam is he wrote his Mattie Ross sexy or what I think he meant maybe Rose Jeff says favorite and least favorite pay per view of each decade in history The eighties my nozzle in the eighties. That's not fair. The nineties my my favorite pay per view anonymous is that there's way too much there sandbank says Sam did a great job over the weekend. Keep up the great work. My question is what was your favorite part of participating in Royal Rumble Weekend Probably doing the kickoff show with renamed booker. I love doing the world's collide kickoff show as well but I think yeah. I had a a lot of fun. Doing the kickoff show was renamed booker. That's probably my favorite part and then getting to watch royal rumble with the crowd for some of it. I did go out onto the floor and watch with the crowd met some cool people got to get to feel the ambiance of the whole thing and then to watch it you know in the locker room and see the wrestling fan come out and a lot of. WWe folks is really cool. Sean Who Do you think edge is GONNA feud with? I'd love to see him in K. O.. Work Magic it's all DRI matches with edge. I don't think he's going to be. He'll you know I think too many people that are happy to see him back. It seems like is a pretty good chance. That Randy Orton is going to be his first feud would if I had to pick or if I got to pick I mean I think him and Sath could probably have whatever really great story line. I think a match between Seth rollins and edge the build up in the right way. I think that could be really really special and this is another one Brian. You think we get aj edge wrestlemainia looks looks like that where they were trying to set up before. Aj got hurt in the match. Yeah I don't know what happened with. Aj in the match itself. You know I did see him. I mean I saw him walking around after the match. So you know but I I mean I don't know what that means. So that's I would love to see. Aj and edge but there was randy Orton stuff going on too. So I don't know this one. Yeah another one styles. Todd says it does the fiend continuous run into mania with Daniel Bryan. I Dunno I think Daniel Bryan needs to move onto something else. Maybe you can go back to the fiend. Eventually but the fiends beaten him twice now so so I don't I don't know I mean you really definitely beat him tonight he definitely beat Daniel Bryan at the royal rumble. So I don't know what argument Daniel Bryan would have to get a rematch or anything CNN punk says wouldn't Shayna ben a better choice to win by eliminating Charlotte well it and maybe set up a whole force. Women versus four horsewoman angle. People keep talking about that. I know you know I know if Shayna Baiser had eliminated Charlotte. I mean. Becky is a good guy. CHARLOTTE GOES IN BETWEEN BAILEY'S A bad guy. Sasha Banks Bagai. They're in two separate brands like I don't I don't need to see four horse. Women Versus Four Horse Women. I WANNA see Shane Versus Charlotte. It I want to see Rhonda versus Becky eventually when Marisha fear and Jessica Duke are. Are you know the wrestlers that Shane Rhonda are. I would love to see them in the mix too but I'm not. I'm not sitting here going like we need to see this person tag match immediately. Like it's an eight person. Tag Match. Singles matches are better so no. I don't think that at all and and I think that Charlotte eliminating Shayna makes it so we WANNA see Charlotte versus Shayna. You know. I think that the story between. Here's why it makes makes sense. That Charlotte would eliminate Shayna in my opinion especially after the aftermath of that is that Charlotte is not a good guy who overcame. Shane obeys as long. We're going back to this story of of Charlotte. Being the poster. Child and Shane obeys lower. Coming to spoil her and Charlotte got lucky with the elimination. Shane has got something to prove to Charlotte. Not the other way around. So when Shane shows goes up for her match with Charlotte she still has something to prove to Charlotte if she eliminates Charlotte from the match. Then Charlotte has something to prove to Shayna. But that's not the case it's the other way around. So that's why I think it made sense what we saw. Adam says y'all Oh meltzer and the others and apology itchy. I don't think so personally. I don't think the reports ruined edges return as it was well. We'll believe it when we see it type of thing. Oh Yeah I mean I guess that goes back to my original point the beginning of the show Tony gunk says. What do you do with Daniel Bryan at Mania? It's a good question. That's a really good question you you know. I mean I think that Daniel Bryan versus shameless is a very real possibility. I think that I think Daniel Bryan versus Darin. Corbin could actually be very good. Would you know I wouldn't. I wouldn't be shocked. If that's the direction we start going in Daniel Bryan. I would probably do it. I would probably start to build a compelling story between Daniel Bryan and Barron Corbin Ryan says why Charlotte not that. She's a bad choice. Just not the one I would've made I think I explained that Let's see mark says says how the hell do you have a stretch with pin falls or submissions. Yeah I mean that's not the traditional rules of a strap match but it for this scenario at least we're not sitting there going okay. Well it's you know it's decisive. I think that the reason they didn't do touch the corner posts which are the traditional strap match roles. Those are that the pin fall was extremely decisive. There is no arguing who the better man was at the Royal Rumble Lance. Who was the the worst winner in the history of the Royal Rumble and Y? Let's see Let's let's see I. The winners are generally. Okay I mean I. I don't know that there's been a really bad. The Royal Rumble winner you know. I think historically it's Alberto del Rio probably didn't work out the way they wanted him to. And I don't know shameless is run. worked out exactly how they wanted it to you. Know I I. I Guess Hacksaw Jim Duggan. Even though he's the man he wasn't exactly a main event or we'll annex T or next to UK be at WRESTLEMAINIA NFC UK will not be a Wrestlemainia. I mean they'll be part hard of WRESTLEMAINIA weekend but they're not going to be on the paper view I would imagine. We'll see one annexed he match potentially at Wrestlemainia. I wouldn't be shocked if we didn't but I would hope that we you would. If you have a wrestlemainia moment what would it be and who would it be with. I probably be somebody probably be Bianca. Bel Air beating me up. Who Do you think we'll main event Wrestlemainia who you want? Who is earned it? I mean everybody's earned it you know no. I don't think it's any of our spot to say. Well you didn't earn it you know. I think drew McIntyre versus brock listeners. A pre strong wrestlemainia main event. I think people would be super into that. Ah Jeff says did you prefer royal. Romo's where managers could stay at ringside or where managers were sent back. And when will Katie Lindahl. I'll be back tweet Katie. Tell her to come back on the show. I'll have her back anytime I I liked the managers not being at ringside that way. It's special. When like Seth rollins brings out you know his faction with him? But I do like you know like Robert Stone came out with Chelsea Green in the royal rumble. I liked it. They show up at the entrance way and then and then they send their client to the ring. I think he gets complicated. When there's managers on the outside I think it's too much Any plans lands for you to win the twenty four seven championship. Maybe a surprise running tonight during the women's Royal Rumble match. Well I don't know why being the women's Royal Rumble match but I don't know you'd have to ask. WWe Attorney plans. I don't think they're any plans at the moment for me to win. The twenty four seven championship triple h comes over to you and he asks. Hey Sam I really want to be on Wrestlemainia but I just cannot decide on who my opponents should be. Please help me book my Wrestlemainia match. Okay who should triple ages wrestlemainia opponent B. Now I'm just seeing this tweet so I haven't I haven't thought about it. let's see triple ages wrestlemainia opponent Kevin. And Yeah. It would be Kevin's I like the idea of there being history with an exte- history with Kevin Owens being a part of of the authority yet Kevin's versus triple H it. It would be my wrestlemainia match and yeah you. Just tell the story of of Kevin's being used by triple H and him. Having enough and I think a Kevin owns triple wrestlemainia match would be awesome. And Uh finally how does it feel Dylan writes having the most heat of anyone on the roster. I don't think I have the most heat. If anybody on the roster I did find it interesting that Houston decided to boo me as soon as I open my mouth at worlds collide. Anything Dow is necessary But I think that there are people. I don't know if I have the most heat of anyone on the roster after I think Baron Corbin has heat if you want to look at somebody that's got a amazing amount of heat Barron Corbin is your guy I mean. What a role model? That guy is Thank you for being a part of this week show. Don't forget Thursday. We'll be back email not sam wrestling g mail DOT COM. You can be a part of the show and we'll see you then hope you guys enjoyed the royal rumble goodbye. Everybody thanks for listening. Follow Iraq not Salem on twitter Instagram facebook and you to review subscribe. This has been taught Sam wrestling.

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Royal Rumble 2020 - Best Case Scenarios - Thursday NOTSAM Thursday

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Royal Rumble 2020 - Best Case Scenarios - Thursday NOTSAM Thursday

"Introducing your host from New York here is rulers. Well Welcome welcome welcome. Think my headphones are jacked up there super-busy on one end and I hope that's not what you're hearing right now This sounds terrible. Welcome to not seem wrestling Thursday. Not Sam Thursday to be precise uh on this beautiful wonderful royal rumble week. What a time to be a wrestling fan It's all happening. Visiting we have finally made it to Royal Rumble Week. The start of course of Wrestlemainia Week. I'm hours hours away from jumping on an airplane heading out to Houston Texas. You can catch me on the wwe network this weekend. I'll be on the kickoff show for the Royal Rumble on Sunday but also worlds collide on Saturday. Let's not forget worlds collide. Let's specifically not forget worlds collide because I'm on the kickoff show and if you don't remember the pay-per-view itself is happening. I doubt that you'll remember. There's a kickoff show but there is a kickoff show and I'm on it and I'm very excited about it and I mean you're taking imperium versus the undisputed era you're talking about mustache mountain versus diy. It's going to be a tremendous show. Tony Storm warm versus rea- Ripley. I mean seriously how can you go wrong. So it's GonNa be a great weekend definitely check out both shows on the wwe network as well L.. As the kickoff shows those are important too so I figure today since it is Thursday not Sam Thursday. There's Day and we didn't get a chance to do state of wrestling Because we decided to devote that time to the Dan Mafa interview on on Monday show. which by the way if you haven't heard the whole Dan Mafa interview? Make sure that you listen to the entire thing. Because his story about how he got into ring of honor and how he found out that he was signed to ring of honor is one of my favorite stories ever. So if you haven't watched her or heard Heard that show yet definitely check it out and I say watch because so much. Content is available at YouTube dot com slash. Not Sam wrestling The Dan moth interview you video of it will be up on that channel as well as clips from the state of wrestling and Thursday not say Thursday all interview videos every re-pot cast in audio form goes up on the Youtube Channel. So check it all out and do it and do it quickly and rapidly and often and hit the subscribe button and and do the whole deal so I figure today we will talk about the Royal Rumble of course in its entirety. But the way I want to do it is I think I wanNA give my top five outcomes of both the men's and the women's royal rumble match is is because this year's royal rumble. More so than most I think is extremely unpredictable. There are some people that I'd say. Oh I know what's going to happen. Roman reigns wins. He goes to Wrestlemainia. He gets the title. But that's been every royal rumble for the last five years. Some people say I know what winds brock listener makes it all the way to the end Cain Velasquez eliminates him or Tyson. Fury eliminates him. They go on to wrestle me. I know what's going to happen. Don't get your hopes up but but really I've already laid out three different scenarios. That are all obviously this is what's GonNa happen three different. Obviously this is going to happen. Obviously we don't know what's GonNa the happened do we. So and I think that that's partly because things are changing a lot I talked about. This is a lot this week. It's royal rumble weeks. So I've been all over the place I was on busted open on Siriusxm I was on Wade Keller's podcast And some of the stuff we've been talking about is how how much has been changing right now in. WWe You're talking about the landscape. Still kind of figuring it salve out seth. rollins is a bad guy. You know Really all of these storylines all come together to the point where the raw leading in in two royal rumble had very little to do with the royal rumble. The main event had nothing to do with the royal rumble whatsoever. So we're left in this position where we're still guessing and I think it's a good thing I'm I'm is made me look forward to the royal rumble. A whole lot more. So let's start with the men's men's royal rumble. Here are my top. Five potential outcomes for that men's royal rebel top-five potential outcomes for the men's royal rumble. And these are the so these are the top five people who could win the match and I would be happy by the away if any of these five come true in the context by which I'm presenting them to you okay. Are you ready for this. Okay here we go There I don't know there couple of X.. Factors to talk about of course but we'll talk about the X.. Factors let me get into my top five. Let me get into my top a five okay number one my number one pick to win the men's royal rumble. This year is Kofi Kingston Kofi Kingston winning the men's royal rumble would come out of nowhere. Kofi Kingston had the best eight months. Twenty nineteen that anybody could have possibly Sibley asked for starting in February going all the way to October February March April may June July August. Yeah eight months or so. Starting in February going to October Kofi Kingston had it all including a trip to wrestlemainia where he won the wwe championship including multiple successful wwe title defences including representing the company. Has Its champion and I think doing so. Well some people didn't like him as champion. I think those people are haters with a capital eight. I thought he did great. I thought he had the best post wrestlemainia season last year of anybody. Unfortunately that season was dried up by the time October came around and he stepped into the ring. For thirty seconds with brock listener on the Fox premiere of smackdown down and brock listener. beat him with one move and took the title away from Him and Kofi Kingston hasn't been anywhere even remotely near the The wwe championship or any talk of it sense especially as we lead towards the royal rumble. Now he's even further from it. He's back to being in a tag. I team he and Biggie. Or the TAG team champions of smackdown new day is back to being a group where now no one of the individual is bigger than the faction action which wasn't the case. When Kofi Kingston was the champion Kofi Kingston was the standout obviously he was the WWe champion go? Vacationing has done interviews. where he he said Based on his performance on smackdown he doesn't think he's entitled to a rematch. He doesn't think he's entitled to argue the result clearly he lost and that's true true he clearly lost however why there's been no explanation as to why he lost. It was just one bad night if he was caught not once in a position where he wasn't prepared that happens. Everybody has an off night but if you expect us to believe that that that is what happened with Kofi Kingston. Then let me tell you. He deserves to have another night. And maybe he doesn't can get I mean the automatic rematch clause was thrown out the window doesn't exist in. WWe anymore so how else is he gonNA get it look. He is never come remotely close to having his revenge against brock listener. If Kofi Kingston I believe the wwe fan base is ready willing and able to accept Kofi Kingston back back into the main event seen however it has to be done through a grand gesture you know in all those movies where you want to win the girl's heart and so you gotta a jump up on the table in the cafeteria and singer song in front of everybody. That's a grand gesture that something that the whole world is going to be talking about that something undeniable. You can't sit. Darren go man. How did he get that girl? Well are you going to jump up on a cafeteria table and singer a love song. I don't think so. That's what Kofi Kingston needs to Kofi. Kingston is in the Royal Rumble match. He's not even being talked about as a possibility to win this thing but if he won this thing I don't think people would say what that doesn't make sense they'd go the old Kofi back. I miss the old Kofi and I think people do miss that Kofi. I think there's there's there's a bitter sweetness with Kofi Kingston Right now the when we look at him regardless of successful this tag team the new day is we know you're the champion and you lost in thirty seconds and your entire reign was forgotten about. Nobody talks about Kofi Kingston in that context anymore and it was one of the number one moments of Twenty Nineteen Kofi Kingston. I need to get back there. And I think the only way to do it is to eliminate brock listener in the royal rumble match and win the match go under Wrestlemainia and have your rematch at Wrestlemainia Kofi Brock the sequel I was GonNa say Kofi Brock too but people don't want to remember that Kofi Kingston fought brock listener on one of those WWE Network specials and that match was actually a little longer than the smackdown. title-match believe it or not so I think this would be the the third match between Brock and Covy but will call it the sequel. Certainly it's only the second. Wwe Championship match between Brock and Kofi. That match needs to happen Wrestlemainia and the story that needs to be told between the Royal Rumble in Wrestlemainia is that Kofi Kingston learned Kofi Kingston. Knows what he did wrong. Kofi Kingston is is finally ready to win. There's no pancakes Wrestlemainia. There's no I'm not coming out of a box of cereal this year. I'm not doing a skit skit in the ring where I dance around. And all the legends dropped their finishing moves on me. How resume twenty-nine Kofi Kingston? He was doing the Primetime Sam. I'm Robert the last professional broadcaster job. He was sitting up there in the bleachers hosting the kickoff. Show none of that anymore. When Kofi Kingston won the WWe championship dip it was not a fluke? It was not a moment. It was a new precedent for wear Kofi Kingston is at in his career and at the royal rumble. He reminds ends. Everybody okay so that's my pick number. One covy Kingston wins eliminates brock listener goes onto wrestlemainia to face brock listener. Pick number two in my top five. Men's royal rumble winners his controversial but bear with me on this. Follow me. Roman reigns Roman reigns is my number two suceed to win the royal rumble this year. Follow me on this okay. Roman reigns and Roman reigns is not eliminate brock listener. Brock listeners. Already eliminated by the time. Roman reigns comes in because the Roman reigns story is not about brock. Lessner a non interested in going to Wrestlemainia and doing Roman reigns versus brock listener. So don't think that that in this scenario the men's royal rumble match is the match that starts the royal rumble pay per view. It's is the first match of the night that's not insane. There's two royal rumble matches. There's all kinds of title matches. The card is loaded. I mean you've got a a andrade versus Burto for the United States Championship. You've got Bailey versus Lacey Evans. Women's Championship Short G. Shame as you get the falls count anywhere match between Roman and Kim Corbin urban you becky verses Oscar. What if you start start you start with the men's royal rumble match and I know you're GonNa sit there and you go but you got you got Roman reigns in King Corbyn in a false can anywhere match later in the night? Yeah Romans still going to win that match. It's not a big deal. The reason you start with it because when Roman reigns wins you have a bunch of fans going. You gotta be kidding me so now. Roman if he's he's either going to face brock listener is ner or we're going to have to watch the fiend loose Roman reigns at Wrestlemainia. You have got to be kidding me. I am kidding you. That's not at all what's going to happen because the reason we did it. I was to not spoil. What was going to happen as we move later in the evening to the fiend Daniel Bryan n w a universal championship? Strap match in the four corner posts. Are I touched by Daniel Bryan Daniel. You'll Brian wins the universal championship from the fiend. Now the strap match is a very unique match in the sense that you can win that match without actually long-term longterm damaging your your opponent Daniel Bryan can win the universal championship without making the Fien seem any weaker. He doesn't have to pin the fiend gene. He doesn't have to tap the fien he doesn't have to be you know. Have the Fien Dan down for a ten count in the last man standing scenario all he has to do is hit. Hit those theoretically if they're doing it by regular strap match rules is hit the four corner posts Walhi strapped to the scene. You can do that and still have the fiend look justice his fearsome has always Daniel Bryan wins the universal championship at the Royal Rumble. And when he wins the championship unshipped. We realize maybe even Roman comes out. Because what'll happen is Roman will win the royal rumble and Baron. Corbin will jump immediately really after and we'll start the falls count anywhere match immediately after the Royal Rumble Roman will still slug it out. He'll pull it out the whole first hour hour and a half of the show is dedicated to Roman. Daniel Bryan wins the Universal Championship. And we realized that this year Wrestlemainia. It's the match that we've all wanted in forever. It's the match that defined the middle of the last decade. It's Roman reigns verses Daniel Bryan and you don't have to turn either one. He'll it'll happen naturally. It's that's I believe. The most compelling match for either of them quite frankly if Roman reigns wins the royal rumble in the first match of the night. Give it up give it a beat. Give it a second. Because in my scenario Daniel Brian is winning the title. And then we got Daniel. Brian and Roman reigns going to Wrestlemainia one on one. And Whoever wins that match in twenty twenty whoever wins that match you're GonNa they have a barn burner of his show. I think those two guys are going to bring out the best in each other. I think those two guys are GonNa tell the best story getting to Wrestlemainia and you. You know as much as we all want to see. Daniel Bryan win. I think he'll he'll end up putting on a performance so good that win or lose he'll be elevated did the moon and Roman reigns will be that confirm main event or I mean I think Daniel Bryan versus Roman reigns is almost like Hogan Warrior in a sense. I mean that wasn't the greatest match in the world but I I think that was a meeting of two icons and I think that that's that's kind of what you're looking at with Roman reigns versus Daniel. Bryan that's why Roman reigns my number two pick. My number three pick is Keith Lee. There are five spots and this isn't the punk pick is very very different. That's why the scenario so important they're five spots in the men's Royal Rumble match the unclaimed twenty five names have been added to the match. Five spots are unclaimed. My number three pick keithly. I'm backstage this week. See 'em punks pick was keithly and he said that keithly at such a showing survivor series that he wanted to see Keith. We get pushed to the moon. Get into the royal rumble match eliminate brock go onto wrestlemainia and beat brock listener and become the WWe champion. I I disagree. One hundred percent and here is why if keithly won the royal rumble eliminated brock listener and then went onto wrestlemainia India. And said I want you Brockman Wrestlemainia. Let's go you would elevate Keith. Lead to the moon seemed punk is right but in the process you would damage annex t and everyone next now personally. I think that one of the reasons keithly. They won the North American championship on next. This week. Might have been to kind of let you know he's not GonNa be in the royal rumble. This thought process. I went through. who was before? He won the North American Championship. However this whole thing still works with him? As North American champion can lose the title on the way to Wrestlemainia because keithly wins the royal rumble. He doesn't just elevate himself. He elevates the entire annex. EXTE- brand. Keith Lee my number three pick wins the royal rumble. And then he announces I get a championship match at Wrestlemainia Brock. I don't want you. Maybe says that when we it's not gonNA be brock listener. I already eliminated brock listener. I I don't need to prove myself to brock listener and then the fiend starts licking his chops. All right keithly. You're all mine baby Wrestlemainia I I am GonNa tear you up. Yeah but that's the thing. I'm not interested in the Universal Championship. I'm not interested in in the fiend. I'll fight the fiend off fight brock listener. But I don't want either of those two titles because Keith Lee wins the royal rumble. And he decides he wants to go to Wrestlemainia so mania for the annex t championship that the North American title is not enough for him. He wants to go to Wrestlemainia and he wants to take on the next champion. Probably Probably Adam Cole and what you're left with. As a scenario where the Saturday before wrestlemainia you still have takeover but on Sunday the grandest stage of them them. All Wrestle Mania Keithly Adam Cole annexed championship main event level Wrestlemainia Nia match. That is how you get people to tune into an X.. T. These scenario of keithly winning and going on to face brock listener would be great if st were a developmental territory that is aired on the wwe network but t is the WWE's third brand. And I only say it's the third brand because it's the newest in chronological order and he is. WWE's third brand but annex t is on national cable all television USA every week in Primetime for two hours. Annex T is a viable oh revenue stream. It's making money for wwe everywhere you go an xt Is the third brand annexed. He's not developmental anymore. There's no more call up call over. There's this there's that okay. If annex t is the third brand then why when given and the opportunity is everybody's I moved to leave. Why when given the opportunity with Keith lead decide well I'm getting the hell out of here? I'm going to the into the real shows. It can't happen you need to get people watching an xt. There are far less people watching annex t that are watching raw and and smackdown the answer to that could be makes them stars on Annex t have people on e. that are stars. How do you get it stars on Annex T? It doesn't mean have Seth Rollins Show UP TO ANNEX T. Every week doesn't mean have Becky Lynn Show to Annex T. Every week doesn't mean have Roman reigns to a pop in it means go to a pay per review like the royal rumble may keithly look like a million bucks make keithly look like a superstar and let the world know that if you WanNa see more of this guy. It's Wednesday nights because I don't want an extra to become a full-fledged just third brand I want an xt to remain separate. I don't WanNa see tri branded pay per views. You know we take for granted that Ron smackdown are just you know on these dual brand pay per view event. X T were a true equal with Ron smackdown. And everything is the same and these papers become try branded. You know what we're sacrificing takeover and. I'm not willing to make that sacrifice everybody that ever said. I don't want Vince to get his hands on Annex T I want triple eight to maintain control of it had better not want an xt to become equivalent to Ron smackdown. Eh needs to be just as big just as good but separate annex t needs to be a separatist organization and in order to do that properly the superstars next to you have to have pride in an xt and we. We can't say well. Let's elevate Keith. Lee By putting him in contention for the WWe championship. We have to say is. Let's elevate the annex t championship chip so that when Keith leasing contention for it it makes him even bigger my third pick is keithly winning the royal rumble and not going for the wwe or the universal championship but instead going for the NFC championship and going for that match at Wrestlemainia number. Four and again stay with me on this brock listener. Brock listener is my number four. Pick maybe it. It wasn't a prediction. Maybe it was a spoiler. Brock lessner is my number four. Pick and I know what you're saying already Eddie has nothing to do with cave. Alaska's has nothing to do with Tyson. Fury has nothing to do with any of those people. The reason reason brock listener is my number four. Pick is because when brock listener wins. He's the WWe champion. So what's he gonNA do. I'll tell you what he's going to do. He said I won the royal rumble. I'd get a championship match. Yeah that's true. Who Do you want it to be against them? The fiend I want to be the WWe champion in the universe will champion is the Fien Beats Daniel Bryan at the royal rumble. I think we're pretty. Well cemented that the fiend is unbeatable if brock leser walks into the royal rumble. After saying nobody buddy in the locker room can beat him and he walks in at number one and he goes through twenty nine other men and leaves the royal rumble as the winner. Then I think it's pretty cemented. The brock listeners unbeatable but if you've got brock listener whose unbeatable and you get the fiend whose unbeatable one of them has to get beaten so we put the feed the beast and the monster the beast and the fiend to gather one on one title versus title winner take all at Wrestlemainia people talk about defeat versus Roman reigns people talking about the versus the fiend versus that the biggest match the fiend could ever have is the fiend versus brock listener and to me is the way to go for the fiend. I think if the fien were lose to brock listener it would be okay for the fiend. I think the A beep brock listener. It would make him but when you walk into Wrestlemainia when you walk into that stadium when you turn on the wwe network and nate tell you it's the fiend versus brock listener. You can't tell me you know who's going to win that match. I mean we're going back to now brock listener versus undertaker wrestlemainia. Thirty territory. Where you thought you knew who's going to win that match but now you don't because that happened this can happen? You walk into that match and you do not know who's going to win and you do not know how they're going to win because both guys are unbeatable. Brock Listener wins wins the royal rumble. But instead of going after a celebrity or a legend or Roman reigns or anybody else. Since since he's already the champion he wins the championship match and he picks the universal champion. The feet that's yes my number four pick with brock listener winning the match. My number five pick is a dark horse. My number five pick is a pick that I'm making to allow the royal rumble to make a new single star. Let's say covy Kingston comes out. He does a couple of things he gets eliminated. There's another new day member. What if he were to come out eliminate brock listener and win the Royal Rumble? What if big e were the one that went to Wrestlemainia to challenge brock listener for the WWe championship? What if big ee hunted for vengeance against the man who took away the dreams of his best friend? What if we take a serious look at what biggie versus? Brock listener owner actually. Looks like people have been saying it forever. Blue Vin wanting biggie to have a run whether it's a good guy whether it's as a bad guy. Here's your opportunity. Fortuity Biggie. Eliminates brock listener wins the royal rumble wants his match with brock listener. Can you imagine wrestlemainia. Thirty thirty five Kofi Kingston wins the title Wrestlemainia. Thirty six. biggie wins the title. Can you imagine the pressure. biggie would be under walking into Wrestlemainia in in a wwe championship match last year. Your New Day brother Kofi Kingston won the Debbie Championship. He beat Daniel Bryan this year. You're the one with the same opportunity except now you have to be brock listener the pressures on 'cause Kofi Kingston has proven that it's possible muscle if it's possible biggie. Show me that you can do it and this is. This is the moment that we see if Biggie can can become. That singles breakout star. That's my number five. Pick Biggie to win the two thousand twenty royal rumble. Of course. There's lots of things to talk about with the five open open. Spots Cain Velasquez his name has been thrown around. Obviously that's going to have something to do with brock listener right Tyson. Fury's name name has been tossed around. Who knows who that's going to have anything to do with? Let's talk about you. Know some of the legends about the undertaker. The undertaker is always a possibility to be in the royal rumble. Maybe undertaker will be there to names. That have come up in some conversations and I was talking with Wade. Keller this week are the Rock and John Cena. Both those names have come up as potential entrance in the royal rumble. I think that'd be huge. I think you've either one of them. One walking into Wrestlemainia with brock listener verses the rock even Johnson John seen of I would hope it's John's University Brooke instead of John Cena versus the fiend but either way if Johnson or the rock came out for the Royal Rumble Minute Maid Park would turn upside down. It would be the damnedest thing you ever saw in your life but how about this the undertaker if John Cena or the rock come out I think you want it to lead to a title match with Brock Listener. But what about the undertaker do we. You want another undertaker brock listener match. I would say no. So what do we do well. Here's what I think. There's two scenarios I was talking about on busted. Open this week people wanting a sting undertaker match at Wrestlemainia. I don't there's one scenario. Reo where the build to the undertaker versus sting would be cool and the undertaker comes out. Enters the royal rumble eliminates brock listener. Brock Listener looks up at the undertaker. The undertaker looks at brock listener. CAIN VELASQUEZ COMES OUT STARTS BEATING UP BROCK DOC listener and they're in the entryway looking at the undertaker is stink maybe sting even enters the royal rumble eliminates undertake or something like that. I love the idea of the undertaker eliminating Brock Glasner. We think that's going to lead to a brock listener undertaker fight but Cain Velasquez. He has made his presence known as entertainer stands alone in the ring. There stink staring back at him. You wouldn't get goosebumps. I would get goosebumps for that. But I told you I don't particularly want the undertaker versus thing at Wrestlemainia. I would love to see that. Maybe at an international pay per view but not wrestle me. There's one name that is it did not make my top five. Then name is drew McIntyre. And here's why because. How great would it be if the undertaker came out? He eliminated brock listener. And the cameras. Just a close up. It's a close up of the undertaker Acre and Brock's looking up at him and undertakers. Looking down at him and then from the side well here comes. Drew McIntyre's tires foot in the undertaker's face drew McIntyre eliminates the undertaker quickly. The undertaker comes comes out. He eliminates Brock Leser. Before the next participant even enters the match drew McIntyre eliminates the undertaker. Let's go buddy let's go now. You're talking now. You gotTa drew McIntyre Undertaker match ready to go for Wrestlemainia. That's the mash that I wanna see for for both those guys at Wrestlemainia and I drew McIntyre doesn't have to win the royal rumble. After that. There's one hundred things that could happen. Your honor taker could pull the hulk. Hogan and dragged drew McIntyre to the outside Kofi Kingston. Do a trick. The Roman reigns could eliminate drew McIntyre if he wants to go on to face. Daniel Bryan Keith. Leak yet. Keyed Lee at eliminate drew McIntyre once. Drew McIntyre has eliminated the undertaker. The work has been done and we do that. Like you know right around number. Twenty two thirds into the match that what you've got plenty of time to eliminate drew McIntyre and it has nothing nothing to do with the story that we've told story that we've told still stands just some ideas I have for the men's royal rumble. Let's talk about the women's Royal Rumble. The women's Royal Rumble. A lot less known because in the women's Royal Rumble match only five participants have been named the women's Royal Rumble Match confirmed earned Charlotte Flare Alexa. Bliss Nikki Cross. Sarah Logan an Italian. That's it you have to imagine. You're going to have annex t representation you have to imagine you're going to have legend showing up as happens. You know in the in the women's Romance as we've you've seen many a time before. So what does that mean. What does that all mean for us? Well it means that I can come up with a few different scenarios of my own. I can come up with my own top five outcomes that I wanna see in the women's royal rumble. All match the first my number one pick I believe is a safe pick. My number one pick. I believe is actually pretty likely to happen. A lot of people were surprised that Shane Obeys Ler has been on TV. She's in the women's battle royal couple of weeks ago and she's got a couple of other appearances. They thought that she was going to lose to rea- Ripley and then ride off into the sunset and end up maybe on raw smackdown or maybe as a surprise appearance in the Royal Rumble. I believe that the reason Chenab as there has been on. TV is because she's going to be a surprise appearance in the Royal Rumble. I think gift Shayna had just disappeared. Everybody would have known she's GonNa be in the rumble the fact that she did not disappear. The she's been on. Annex T I think is a red herring and get the old Swerve if you will look over here and look over here look over here. Boom Tyler Bait move. They're trying to pull it out. It's not working for me. I WANNA see. Shane obeys ler entered the royal rumble win the royal rumble and go onto Wrestlemainia to continue what she started with Becky. Ledge there are not many credible challenger to Becky Lynch's raw women's Championship. She's beaten just about everybody. Eighty and theoretically in my scenario she will finally beaten Oscar at the Royal Rumble. Who is left to challenge becky lynch the Queen of Spades AIDS Shayna baseler? That's WHO's left. Becky Lynch has never dealt with anybody on the level of chain obeys before never never. That's my pick Shane. Baylor wins the women's royal rumble moves herself to raw. Because this is different than keithly. Shayna baiser has already already done everything a person can do next. I don't think discredits an X. T. at all for Shane obeys the royal rumble. Because Shane Baiser will be going to. She already has an issue with becky. Becky Lynch and she's got no unturned stones in annex t Shayna Baiser goes to the royal rumble. Because is she has unfinished business with Becky Lynch Shane baiser goes to the royal rumble because she has dominated the xt women's division and she would like to hold a different women's championship. deanship chain of baiser goes to the royal rumble because in November survivor series ended with Becky Lynch pudding. Shane obeys those through a table. Even though Shane Obey slurred won that match she wins the royal rumble because of the reaction of the WWe universe when Becky Lynn. Shane obeys there were nose to nose. That's why Shane obeys. There goes to the royal rumble. Wins the rumble and wants to go. Mino Amano would becky Lynch at wrestlemainia number two option number two for the ladies Royal Rumble match. Sasha banks hear me out on this one Sasha banks here's how this goes for me at the show the show of shows the royal rumble. We've got Sasha Bailey. Defending the smackdown women's championship against Lacey Evans. Lacey Evans Beats Bailey. We go backstage. It's not just GONNA be a run in. I actually want to see the politicking happen. Sasha Sasha banks has been tweeting about how much she loves Vince Nonstop Everson. She came back. She's been talking about how great Vince is. How much money? He's he's giving her her relationship with Vince. The whole nine yards so we go backstage and we see Sasha banks politicking taking with. Vince McMahon himself. Sasha banks politicking with Mr McMahon and Mr McMahon decided to allow Bailey who is is no longer the champion and Sasha banks to both be in the women's royal rumble match. The match comes down to Bailey. Sasha banks and Shane Obeys Ler Bailey and Sasha banks go after Shayna Sasha Banks Steps Back Bailey is actually able to eliminate. Shane obeys. Were strike that strike that right now because I don't want to even be a seed of doubt halfway through the match. Sasha Eliminates Bailey. We don't even wait till the end. We don't even wait till the final three Bailey doesn't make it for no reason whatsoever ever just because the opportunity presented itself Bailey Eliminate Sarah Logan. She's sitting there on the rope catching her breath. Sasha pink scoops her up and throws over the top rope sorry honey. All's fair in love and war. Sasha banks wins the royal rumble after Eliminating Bailey. Sasha banks goes to smackdown. She tells Vince. I don't WanNa wait until WRESTLEMAINIA. I I want that match. Now I want my match with Lacey Evans. I wanted it. Elimination Chamber Lacey Evans. Says I'll fight you right now. Sasha I'll fight did you tonight now. We can elimination chamber. We have the Sasha Banks Lacey Evans title match at Elimination Chamber. Sasha banks wins the smackdown women's I championship at Elimination Chamber. Bailey is now starting to develop some sympathy because of what Sasha did to her starting with. What's actually did to her at the Royal Rumble and her character morphs into a nice middle ground between the overly positive hug it out Bailey and the overly negative? I'm bitter about Everything Bailey. Bailey returns to just being a person. She keeps her hair the way it is. She keeps her outfit the way it is. She keeps her theme the way it is. She does not bring back the bailee buddies. No side ponytails no hugging. She's an adult dammit. But she's a relatable adult. She's a cool adult. She's an adult that you actually want to hang with. Bailey becomes a good guy again not in the same way. Bailey was before but in a new way. It's the new version of Bailey as a good guy. And that version of Bailey warps. That version of Bailey wins the elimination chamber match. So guess what she doesn't want becky lynch she wants revenge on Sasha banks now we leave the Elimination Chamber and we head to Wrestlemainia with Bailey. Aley who has finally found herself for real this time chasing the evil betrayer. Sasha banks for the smackdown women's Championship Sasha Banks Pick number two big number three for the royal rumble. It's just something I'd like to see. It's a returning page. I'd be happy with page versus Becky Lynch or page versus Bailey page age versus Bailey might make a little bit more sense. You wouldn't have to turn Bailey Into a good guy after all have paid going after the Evil Bailey and Dan page can win the smackdown women's championship Wrestlemainia and have a big parade if pages healthy enough to compete. She can be a mystery Addition to the Royal Rumble Rumble. And she can win my number four pick. This is another obvious. One if she is available and interested bats woman on the planet. Ronda Rousey Ronda Rousey returning to the royal rumble to the women's role rumble match the same spot where she debuted two two years prior Ronda Rousey winning that match and going on to Wrestlemainia one year later to get her revenge enj on Becky Lynch and I would build the Ronda Rousey becky Lynch match almost like the Rock Johnson a match where you really start to drift into shoot territory I would. I would talk about the fact that Becky the did. The RHONDA's shoulders weren't down. I would talk about. I would have becky say that Rhonda can't work. I you know all kinds of stuff I mean really get personal really dig deep and really tell the story with this one. Ronda Rousey is my I pick my number five pick and I'm surprised that this isn't more people's pick is a woman who is in the five that are listed as officially competing in in this match. My number five pick is Charlotte and the reason my number five pickiest Charlotte and I would put Charlotte with Baileigh not with Becky. We've seen Charlotte versus becky enough. But I picked Charlotte because this would be the third women's Royal Rumble Match Oscar one. The first Becky Lynch won the second at some point. We've gotTA GIVE CHARLOTTE A royal rumble. Win She's GonNa go down as maybe the best women superstar in the wwe of all time at some point she's got to win a royal rumble and the only reason why she's my number five but she is number five on that list. I think the story I'm in love with the most is the Sasha banks story but that's because it's so detailed Chenab as they're still number one so and and let's not forget while I don't know that I necessar- necessarily see her winning the match. Nyah Jax Nyah. Jack's possibly making a surprise appearance in this year's Royal Rumble Jumble Women's roll rumble. Because that's the thing people have also said. What if Ronda Rousey were in the men's royal rumble match Ronda Rousey were in the men's royal rumble match especially if she won that Batmans Royal Rumble match? It would damage the entire women's division for the same reason keithly going on to face brock listener the damage an xt. So I don't like that at all. See 'em Honk is a name that people are throwing around. I don't see 'em punk. I think it's too early. I don't see him in this. Royal Rumble match. It could happen. I don't see it happening. I think he will be back in a wwe ring. I don't think it'll happen at the royal rumble. We have a bunch of emails. How's that I'm GonNa get to Not Sam wrestling at gmail.com But let me get to the discord room. I if you WANNA be a part of our discord room you gotta sign up. Patriot dot com slash flashed not sam wrestling for less than a dollar week. You can be a not Sam Shell and you can get full access to this discord room. That is open and popping twenty four hours a day seven seven days a week. WWe Front row. I love the Shane Pick. Because it also adds a chapter the Horse Women Versus Horsewoman Story. That's right. Shane obeys can also get vengeance for her friend and Ronda Rousey coach in the discord room rights. You know we still say main roster annex t but it doesn't really fit anymore. What if we said? Vince is roster slash shows and hunters roster slash. Shows would love dots from Sam. The only reason I don't don't like that is because I think it takes away from the people who are actually on the shows and it makes the people running the show seemed like the biggest stars. Also theoretically rob belongs to Paul Heyman and excuse me and smackdown belongs to Bruce Prichard but I mean you're right. Those are vince his shows does yeah. I just don't think those shows should be defined by the people running them. I think you just call it an xt. And you call it. Ron Smack that's all SVN Ojo says. I got a question for Thursday. Not Sam Thursday. I've heard a lot of crazy theories about the men's rumble from Rana returning in the men's to see him punk eliminating winning listener. Yeah we talked about that. Just now does the fact that people are predicting such crazy. Things make this one of the most anticipated rumbles in a while or is it just Roman overbrook and everyone is just ignoring the obvious. No I don't think people are ignoring the obvious at all. I think this royal rumble match. I don't think most row rumble matches. I would come on here and do. Here's my top five potential people to win this thing. I think this year both royal rumble matches are as open ended as they've ever been and I think that's the way royal rumble mentioned. Should it'd be. I think it's really really cool. All right let's get to. The e mails not sam wrestling at gmail.com was coming from Brad. I know it's only early. debuted at a e w beating extend the ratings someone expected given that viewers can watch and extend the WWE network without any commercial interruptions also. What's your opinion on the idea of undisputed era having a female member Undisputed era. I don't I don't want to have any more members male or female. I don't think they need anymore remembers. I think there's a real history with the undisputed era. I think that that is a brotherhood that lasts way outside of annex t outside of wrestling so I don't think that should be messed asked with. I don't think it needs anymore members male or female As far as annex t getting beaten the ratings because viewers can watch wwe network. I think that that's Baloney. I've heard heard people make that excuse but you can it's the same thing as Dvr. And I know you're saying on network doesn't have commercials you can fast forward commercials on the DVR. You Doc in you can. DVR Eighty W as easily as you can find annex t on the WWE network so although I guess you get hit points for the DVR. You don't get points for the network. But no I don't think that that makes that big of a difference Brian writes. I have a tradition every year after. TLC I watch every single rumble match. What a tradition? This year I decided to mix it up and rank everyone and was wondering what you thought. I didn't include the women's rumble okay. He really did rank thirty two royal rumbles. I'll just go through some of them. Number One one is ric flair ninety two. I think that's a pretty safe bet number two. Is John Cena in two thousand eight and that's one at Madison Square Garden right anything. That's an okay but Number four zero one. Where's ninety nine fall on this list? Ninety nine is number twenty seven. You know I disagree with that because I love ninety nine. He's got the Shawn Michaels Royal Rumble as the worst royal rumble. Ninety five and. I don't think that's fair. Because it gave us the royal rumble. One foot rule gave us the Shawn Michaels rule the Shaun the nineteen ninety five royal rumble has one of the best royal rumble. Both finishes ever because nobody knew that there was the one foot rule. You heard Howard. Both feet must touch the floor but he didn't really get that so. I don't think that that should be a way at the bottom. Ninety three is is low and I think that's okay because yeah yeah. The Star power in ninety three was week number. Twenty nine is two thousand fifteen. That was a bad one. Like I said twenty seven ninety nine. That's not affair Other than that maybe at some point I'll rank might. Maybe I should have done that. Maybe I'll do it for next year or something. I'll ranked as if you guys want me to get more into this than hit me up. Not Sam wrestling at gmail.com or at night. Sam On twitter. If you really want me to rank this and I'll give you Brian's rankings and do the whole thing maybe I'll do a Patriot special or something. This one's coming from Jordan big fan of the show on the work. You do so big in fact. I invited you my wedding two years ago when I was married on the today show officiated by the one and only John Cena. I guess you weren't checking your DM's back then. I would. I wish I gone. Look you sent me pictures. He really was married on the today. Show by John Scene. Dude I woulda gone. I don't know how I missed that next time. Maybe when I'm in marriage number two Anne stone cold officiates a hit you up again. Please do thank you Jordan Let's go to Dangelo your ideas and stance on almost every everything is fresh. Revolutionary Canarian backed up by facts are no disrespect. But you're Seth Rollins had Abed twenty. Nineteen theory is insane so Roman is my top of my top five wrestlers and wwe today and I hated rollins and thought he did nothing of note until the never shuts up seen a storyline e. I mean I never rounds but Oh wait I think we did this. Oh here we go. It was a reply. Okay I'm sorry. I'm sorry I'm sorry. Oh eight did we do this Tuesday. The twenty first of January is that when it was sent. No No. I guess we didn't do it. I read it Here's what he's saying. Rollins at a great twenty nineteen royal rumble winner. Beat Brockett Mania B break again. At Summer Slam won the tag titles. I got engaged amazing showing survivor series. Then the money he'll turn lastly leader a leader of my name. Architects have pain authors. have pain And he's at Lacey Evans. Should have been on. Your most impactful superstars listed twenty nineteen. I don't think the Evans should have been on that list. I I think she has the potential to do it in twenty twenty but she was not one of the most impactful superstars twenty nineteen She had a great debut. She was not that impactful and she had one storyline storyline and the thing is with all that stuff that you just said up until survivor series first of all guide engaged has nothing to do with him being wwe superstar. I'm not talking about his personal life. but won the tag titles and this was sent before raw. So he's not talking about this run. beat Brock twice royal rumble winner. Her he did all that stuff and still nobody cared. That's how you know set rounds had a bad twenty nineteen said there is I was GonNa have a great twenty twenty. It's off to an amazing start. It's the best thing on right now. I'm so glad that he embodied Murphy won the tag titles Monday night. Masai is the best thing on raw but plot his two thousand nineteen was terrible and I would. I would love to have a conversation with you about all these facts only go to my argument. He did all these. He's great things and nobody cared. Except for you which I can give you. Respect for frank says Always enjoy the PODCAST After listening to your last week about Tessa Blanchard do you think part of impacts thinking about giving her the title was to beat. WWe W either the punch no seems to me that would have been inconceivable hill for Charlotte flair to climb. No there are wrestlers that I could see. WWe winning the female wrestlers winning the traditionally men's championships but I don't think it had to do with beating. WWe The punch. I don't think that's even something on. WWE's radar right now. Well I think it's just impact trying to differentiate themselves in the marketplace and. I think that's a good thing David Lot emails this week. You just a quick thought on the rumble. Wanted to get your opinion with all three rosters being so amazing. Do you think it's time that we should lose People we know won't win tag. I teams comical spots and legends. I know I don't think so because I think that you need a kind of ebb and flow. Oh of the match. I don't think you can just have thirty main eventers come out and just one after the other after the other after the other. I think that you need all those different elements and I think that part of what makes the Royal Rumble. Interesting is that to a fan. You could sit there and say maybe our truth is going to win the royal rumble and go to Wrestlemainia may be Tucker is going to go to Wrestlemainia you know. I think you need some spots for that. You're right. It's less and less with all the talent that they have and I also think that it's your one opportunity of the of the year to have these kind of surprised novelty act show up for a couple minutes in the ring and then get eliminated so I like them all so I disagree Carson. Hey Salmon's the fan emails top five questions since it's row rumble. Week what are your top five royal rumbles also ricochet said you see in his problem with brock listener. Yeah I heard it and I appreciate all you guys Oh case not Carson. Sorry Cason I appreciate. All you guys send me tweets ricochet do not say you see you see brock listener. The nobody talks like that. No one says you see when they talk back to anybody ever before a fight before dinner before making love ever top five royal rumbles in no particular order. I'm putting putting nineteen ninety nine on my list no matter how much you guys hated Nineteen ninety-two obviously Two Thousand Eighteen When Nakimora on What else was good? Two Thousand Eight I think there was one in Madison Square Garden and not two thousand is an island like other matches that I like the matches. It rumbled two thousand way more than the actual royal rumble match Let me go back to that other list. Actually real quick. That would help me. Those are four and then I would say maybe maybe two thousand ten an edge winning. Maybe maybe maybe ninety one but those are definitely my top for Okay we only got a couple more Mike they range from our questions a couple of weeks. Ago Bracken Kinda and dry day detonated. I'm glad to see factions back. I've been talking about factions forever. I'm so glad the factions are coming back. My question is do you think anyone else should join satisfaction and if yes who do you think is a good good fit. I personally think it would be cool to see. Shane obeys. Joined Seth but a crazy thought would be what becky loser title at Rumble. Then on the next raw turns he'll enjoys her and joins or man No I don't think Becky is gonNA turn heel anytime soon. She's the biggest baby face in the company and should be. Also you know. The Seth Thrones Becky Lynch relationship thing doesn't work not interesting I think she baiser could be interesting. But Shane abusers to dominant tasers should be the head of her own faction more than part of a faction. you know. I think it'd be interesting. is if Alastair black were to maybe we start getting screwed over something like that and get fed up. I think Alastair Black eventually turning heel and joining seth rollins faction might be interesting So thank you Mike and I got your message there and I guess that's it. I had one more e mail in the box but it was offering me to bundle and save money on Hulu blue which I don't want to do because I already subscribe with a different email address. Thank you all for being a part of Thursday. Not Sam Thursday. I can't wait for the royal rumble. I know that you're as excited as I am. And I will see you on Monday for another episode of not Sam Wrestling. Go by everybody Thanks for listening. Follow at not sale on twitter instagram facebook and you to rate review subscribe. This has been wrestling.

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Breaking Down the Ring April 19th 2020

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Breaking Down the Ring April 19th 2020

"You're listening to the PODCAST DETROIT visit. Www DOT best detroit dot com before Information Ladies and gentlemen boys and girls children of all ages listen watching paying attention to the most inappropriate pro wrestling show We're GonNa talk so much today. Aboud stuff man. There's so much stuff going on in wrestling even though there's no crowds which is crazy because you still. Ww still setting up for the money in the bank pay per view but at the same time they have to worry about wrestlemainia due to code nineteen things going on in California which will get into more releases from the. Wwe came this week by. Also there's some fallout from that B. Six things superstars are saying to shirts that these guys have going up on pro wrestling tease now to help support their career. Which are doing amazing. We're GONNA get into all that and more this week as we break the window. Knapp your hey. This is professional wrestler professional gas. Boom Boom Cabana. My name is Jill across South L. What's up guys NAPA MACHINE BRIAN CAGE? This is Ryan pro wrestling tease. Sadly or not listening to the art of wrestling. But you made these enjoy. It's as you're listening. You are now listening to and you're listening to the breaking down the ring down the ring breaking down the ring breaking down the breaking down the ring which true. It's the answer once again. Ladies and gentlemen you are paying attention to the most inappropriate pro wrestling show in the Momma fucking Wa. You're listening and watching and paying attention to breaking down the ring. We are your ring. Group is a little bit of a delay here. Christ you're on a delay is a little lag okay. Nineteen eighty all my keyboard himself. Nineteen wave and the best intro. You've ever given yourselves to give you that bucket amazing Look we're going to start off talking about a dark week in professional wrestling A dark week for wwe because wwe released quite a few wrestlers producers man Cova check so still immune. Wwe released quite a few people this week and therefore it caused a major buzz around wrestling fans the people who are very close with them in family and in a good friends. And we're going to run down this list again. We already talked about it earlier this week. Especially right after it happened because we were getting We wanted to get the reaction of us and let you guys know that we're paying attention. Obviously you don't just do this show. We pay attention to the entire week even though we only do a weekly show so the names that were Originally when we talked a Leo Rush For wrestlers. Start off with Leo Rush. Eric Young. He'd Slater Zack Ryder. Curt Hawkins Drake Maverick e C. Three Luke gallows and Karl Anderson. Sarah Logan Eric Rohan EPICA and Primo. Maria might canals no way Jose and rousseff. For the producers. Kurt Angle was actually released. The restaurant furlough so that means a comeback when wrestling back at They're able to pay them like this. I guess or have full live shows where they need. Need these people on the road Billy Kidman Mike. Rotunda Pat Buck Finley. Shonda Vary Scott Armstrong. Sarah Stock Shane. Helms and Lance Storm The coaches that were released Crisci eight an English was the announcer that was released and Mike. Ota was the referee. What happenstance slowly after that Were Andrea Berg from creative I think we may have spoken about her on the show. A quick little blurb that we did She's the one yeah. She's one of the oldest and Mandy storyline then Jerry Soto was in announcer. That was furloughed. And then Serena Deeb was one of the coaches. The women's coach was like Oh and maybe furloughed. I don't know Far As far as wrestlers that were then let go Dan Matha Dorian Matt is who is Dorian. Mac Listen Marino Nick Colorado. Who is Nick Garelli? Tyner Conti got fame in the second. I believe it was may young classic. And that's the one where Renee young and Talia made jokes that they had a kid. And that's who it was in our county Mars weighing Caesar Benoni Tino Sabah. Telly CACHES. Onell Hussein Ala Gall Edgar Lopez for sale Kirti. Marcus Gomez Muhammed fifteen and rocky. So there's been again quite a few of these wrestlers that were released. And there's a lot of fallout nick with the new names. Obviously there's some A few that most are not probably people in the system but then you have big ones like caches. Ono who was gone around with an x t they even let evolve use caches. Ono. Then there's Who had a decent type of little bit tag team run ish until there were some injuries on TV And so now we're getting into a few mornings that we know. Is there anything on there or any thoughts that you have on some of those bigger names ish names being like oh mostly just cash on? Oh I'm not really familiar with all the a Lotta the other names. And and where? They've been But I think catches definitely under be so that to me is the biggest one that sticks out right now Smitty kind of stick out to me was Arousal yeah I can hear you I. It's funny how you had a lag earlier and all of a sudden you'd answer right away when I asked the question. It's time no 'cause like my my second phone hotspot in it's taken to catch up to catch up chromebook but The PERAZA rouser like Nixon on gals. It's been around the block on indy circuit in our was surprised though they let her go especially especially the fact that she's the Charlotte off the last couple of weeks. I guess now it's more of We're kind of sitting here because they're still announcing these layoffs. They're still talking about things that could happen in the future. And there's been a lot of stuff that's come out saying that. Wwe Isn't just releasing them because they need to make money. It's more so that it's to keep the profit margin as large as it is in releasing these guys. There was an article I read that they have saved over a million dollars in payroll. But it's not like wwe wasn't making profits and they actually showed one of their biggest quarterly profits in Ohio. And to wear W W was making like four million dollars on this. So the release of these people was basically just to save that profit margin rather than on my God were. We don't WANNA go into black. We have to actually release these peaks. Some people so they're just more releasing people just to say. Hey No we still made all this money on your thoughts and feelings on that. Well you know we kind of talked about last week or not last week but when we When we went live earlier in the week It's it's a businessman you know. And they gotta do what's best for business to quote. Mr Mr McMahon what's best for business was more triplets. Definitely thing you know but you know what? I mean it just and I I hate to see all these people losing their jobs being released whatever their case may be but they're going to do what they gotta do. I don't know about that. Whole feel excused. There's some guys on the payroll that don't even show up most of the time that you don't you'll use for events and you paid them more than a million dollars for a showing so Kind of impartial about partisan. Excuse what do you mean like more than million? I mean brock listener and Gobert sounds like that. Why PART-TIMERS MORE. I'm GONNA go ahead. I'll say you pay part timers multi millions of dollars in USA. You couldn't all these people that don't make nearly as much to say you'd say to save a buck okay. I'M GONNA go with Goldberg's done until the next time. They were her contract with an whole reason. He lost at wrestlemanias because the contract that they worked head. Goto by Wrestlemainia Brock Listener. You think brock listeners should have been like. Oh Yeah Yeah what why? I've always said old statement. Wac's dependence on the style of ratings. Is the data run out? What you'd you don't develop anymore stars and you got to depend on the pass forever. Scattered over future are glad we brought listeners. Broad Westerners do not of his prime right before the UFC Bogra's twilight for the last four or five years when he went back to the UFC or before it went to the first. He was fine when you see the first time he came back. He was kind of the trial of his wrestling days. You wouldn't try for residents the last five years or so the Okay why why do you say that? I remember watching dimmer. Brock's original off you were Kurt Angle. And I put on a major match as as a match broadcast back. He was the one he couldn't hit his shooting star. Press any almost broke his neck that one that was yeah great match with a lot of people. `specially Kurt Angle back then. When he came back it was like it was entertaining. What he was doing a Soup Lake City the First Samurai suplexes and all that and then if after a while it just got still brock. Listener has had quite a few good matches with quite a few good people including AJ styles and Daniel Bryan and these are all matches. That went longer than normal because he wanted to work with these smaller guys because he believed that drew McIntyre has put over brock listener in this feud in that Jesus saying that him and Brock had some of some amazing chemistry and they put that match together in a great way. Even that match Wrestlemainia was good like it may brock was coming through looking like a fucking beast as he is and then drew came out with. Klay more after claimed Moore after claimed Moore after reversing that force at five and nothing was bad about that match. Was it to the other matches. He's done yup except for the loss part brock listener. I don't figure anywhere past his prime. He's still wrestling at a high level but he's worked to contract to where he doesn't WanNa wrestle that law I nick. Are you in any agreement here with many know the way? I'm kind of looking at looking at it as a and I could be wrong. It's Kinda like WWe. Is its own sports franchise like they're the Yankees and well. Okay whatever. I just threw that out there. Sorry they're the they're the PUCK and San Diego Padres They're releasing a lot of these guys that they can release to free up cap space and not to say that. That's exactly what's going on. But that's the way I'm interpreting it So brock listener being a seasoned veteran. He's still able to get in the ring he's still able to get on the field he's still able to get on the ice. You still be able to perform you still able to help the younger guys out. Get them over So no I don't think that they should have released him. Because that's almost like you know. Steve is our man in the later part of his career. Who could still play and still put up numbers and still help team. And you're just GONNA RELEASE RIGHT. I mean or you know taking that same I like that analogy smitty. You're saying that brock listener doesn't matter on television anymore when he is technically still a huge draw. I mean it's I think the problem is is a kind of he may have lost a little bit of luster but hearing that it was brock lessner dramatic entire Wrestlemainia. That was big talk right because everyone was hoping drew would go over judy brock listener anytime. Brock is in some sort of anything. It gets people talking. You might be on the end of Just a wrestling fan but I seats me. It all makes sense right because I I get that brock lessner might dominate. But at the same time we have asked for quite a few things that have changed since Brock's last major run with a title. We said we WANNA brock there more often he was. We said we wanted up brock to defend the title more often. I didn't care about that but a lot of people talked about it. He did brock. Listener was a major force going into wrestlemainia going into royal rumble at the Royal Rumble match. All brock listener was there when dramatic entire. Couldn't be because he was out of the country traveling and when they brought him back they needed to Corentin him for fourteen days are long that the government wanted so brock was on Monday night raw damn near every week doing some sort of promotion for Wrestlemania match. When half the other half couldn't that usually was the opposite way nder? Brock's I run with a title so I guess I'm just kind of law at at a loss as to how you are saying. That brock doesn't matter anymore. Brags losses luster a long time ago. Okay brock. Listener is the exact same age as a j styles. Brock listener is still eighties. Those laws wrestling contract most likely when his W E? Okay okay. So what's your point on that? He's wanting this her down. Maybe disciple Bra as will many there are. Oh you're talking about. Aj styles last wrestling contract. Okay I thought you were talking about proximate but again why why. I'LL BE ON C. There's a huge difference of Broccoli's Rene J styles. Aj styles would do the exact same contract brock listener. Had if it was offered right he would if you until Jake styles that he could wrestle for this amount of money. Disa- monitors ages styles. Would totally do that. Because eighty thousand one family right. You gotTA assume so. As Brock last broadcast a love is kids especially his daughter. That looks just like So if AJ styles could sit back and not wrestle as much or as often but still get paid a pretty fucking penny. I'm pretty sure. Aj Styles would take that contract especially if the involved in major storylines showing up every now and then to build it and put it there edges inches reportedly making what was what was the edge was announced as making nine five million something like that for five wrestling dates and twenty five appearances over three years. Thank light debts. You take that dude that's WWe paying you because they know your name and you they know you're a draw may not hit with all of them like all of the audience. There are some people who are watching it going. Who the fuck is edge. But we're watching going holy Shit. It's edge some people call back to the whole nostalgia thing goes just got approval. My whole w depending on the style juror are they depending on the style or is edge back after nine years and he still drawing ratings. That's not depending on what you just said. There are a Lotta people that are probably watching right now is going to fuck edge. Hey we who alleges I holy shit edges back but That's that's that's how excited to watch an. Were you excited when I came back then? I'll feel good feeling but I wasn't really excited. You weren't excited because why I just wasn't i. I was edge fan but when he retired I finally got over it when he came back to get over when he came back and like. Oh I was going to be honest. That was going to be a one off. Thing is if he says in his like he's about like don't WanNa get hurt again because that's always a possibility in this industry so I will never put my expectations. As high as a lot of people will return Mexican. Wrestlemainia was kind of put me off the edge boat even more. Wwe has had nostalgia part of everything for a very long time. There's that you've built wise to build further nostalgia so let me ask you like five ten years online. When he's got really can't go. No more on his copies roster. Do you think they're going to keep pulling back to to offer waiting for VO quite as pop? Who on the Rosser? Well let's look at the roster. Let's talk about how some of the Knick you had a point I'm looking this up. Well I get what? Smitty staying when He said that eventually the nostalgia factor that tanks going to empty. Because you know I've mentioned it a few times before in the past how. Wwe Is You know average viewership age range is getting older and older and older so yea like in ten fifteen years from now when guys like undertaker brock listener. Aj Styles Navy You know a lot of these guys you know can't come back so you know right now. Who's one of their most over guys? You know okay. Let's just say drew McIntyre this is an example so in fifteen or twenty years. I don't necessarily think people are gonNA look at him the same way and get excited as excited to see him as they are for edge. You know well in ten years. Drew McIntyre will be forty four to yeah Canadian. Now I don't mean just fine but they're still guys from that are being made to look strong. Keithly is one or go those guys from annex t they came they put in the rumble they put in different matches and keithly looks like a fucking mammoth beast. That will be handling. Wwe Down the line at Cole was put over quite well every time he came out from. Annex T as well Eventually Vince is going to have to step away now. Granted isn't GonNa be within the next two years. Don't don't fucking CARE. But he has been shown to have put guys over. Granted this bet. There's quite a few talent that haven't gotten over very well in. Wwe from call ups from annex t but look at ways the street providence are being used right. Now we're being used very well. You Know Bianca Bel Air is put over like a fucking beast. As far as the women's division goes. I finally decided to put her to a manager away too quick on role or they're putting her into a role of getting her on. Tv really quick in a good way similar to what they did with the straight profits when they brought them up and just had them cutting promos all the time it was you keep them on TV. You make them entertaining. You Make People WanNa get into it and then eventually you put them into the spot where they desert right now to the raw tag team champions. We are watching them. Cut promos week after week after week after April view after week after week after right for like three months before they did anything and from those prompt. Most I'm referring to really doing anything. As far as skyrocketing in the tag team image will identify learning lesson about beer in a hotel and it was under one team before putting the titles on them. You really you really think that you really think. Ww Vincent Man has learned his lesson undestroyed tactics. No okay so let's go ahead and get that logic out of your head. Does that's what you were just trying to run with. That was an open they would they? St Profits is not as first time. They is something not similar. Like what they do. The Viking raiders where you pretty much had them dominate the tags individual put the title on them so when they lost it. They much lost a lot. Almo- almost all the steam ahead behind him coming up. I don't think the Viking raiders lost steam. They were just unwrought two weeks two weeks or last week yeah. It was last week on Monday. They just they looked fucking amazing. Okay so after that loss. Titles what you'll have Viking raiders doing after that had nothing to form after the also saidles or you just kind of throw if you pull them off. We've always talked about. We've always said that. Wwe is either really great at making you not remember certain things or really bad or destroying teams pulling them off of television shortly after their loss even though there were sometimes you saw them and they were still very dominant in certain situations Still had them. You still remember them but you pull them away and then it's like all right. Where are they and then they come back. You're like fuck. Yeah this is about to be fucking bat. A they're about to go at it and they'd Gone Cedric Alexander and Ricochet if. I'm not mistaken this week and a team but it was two guys that were put together and they had a good few segment match against the Viking. Raiders didn't look weak and the Viking raiders. Still look strong there. There's still a whole you can't you can't complain. Smitty that people are being pushed down your throat. And then get mad when they're actually using a teen or a wrestler correctly. I think they're using the Viking raiders. Really well neck while and right now I mean. Things are just so up in the air with that company with everything. Yeah that if the Viking raiders aren't on TV for a couple of weeks or you know whoever the fuck you WanNa say is on TV for a couple of weeks. And I don't think that mean me personally. I'm not going to be quick to well. Let me misusing them now or now. They're cramming them down my throat and you know I just. I think it's just we're in a weird state right now to make any kind of call like that. It's important so okay. Then so many. How do you feel about this? Is I guess we decide casted away from WWe releases? How do you feel about the new day? When in the smack tactic titles this week again impartial about it is for the first time. I wasn't excited about a new day win like some like you know. I'm a big fan of the new day and a big fan of biggie. Just for like I felt like that was the title. Change does have a title change at that point. Everybody knows no real the fact that commentator. Oh now new. Their eight-time Champs significance in that title. Change Okay so but are you in the same thing of. Why are these guys running with the belts when we should be putting future stars up only all star tag division and I really see where heavy machinery and they got them already in a storyline somewhere? Okay so who do you see as a singles line? A singles future star early on mainland old sorts of things. Do they have done annexed. He really okay. So how are you done now on complaining about using this altar? When you don't have anyone to us right now that is standing out about the crowd. That's what these are playing like. Ten twenty five to fifteen years down the line who's going to be that nostalgia factor that you pull the ratings. I just that was the whole point. Those was just not GonNa Happen. Until your privacy vets step away to make legends that comeback to wrestle in ten years. Sign giving us the people that you bring back in ten years are the people that are stars now and let running things now. Aj Styles is one of those people that you could bring back in ten years to have a fucking match because of AJ styles because in all honesty a lot of people have stopped wrestling the way that they used to so their careers can last longer. there was. There's somebody in everything that you can bring back in ten years to have POPs and put in spots simple as that. There's there's no running out of things. The people that are winding down like wrestling man is is you had rick flair going. Wwe Till Wrestlemainia. What twenty one. Twenty Four. And then he still went on in. Tna in rest in rick was like sixty then if you need to pull out things for these people and Rick. Rick was sixty wrestling after wrestling. When you're on the actual role. These mats aren't a lot of gigs. I dived plane crash right like Rick Flair and he was still putting on good match. That match will sean in Him. His retirement match in WWe was an amazing match to watch wonderful had so much emotion and things. That just happened. That normally never were pulled out it you can't. The nostalgia factor works right partial. I don't think Brock Nostalgia. That's where this all started from. You said they should've gotten rid of brock. 'cause brock contract is done and he's lost in a stalled or he's out of his wrestling. Prime Minister Brock's not nostalgia end one hundred percent nostalgia but that's because he was gone for nine years. Edge would still be going right now if he didn't get his injured as he got in my honest percent. I believe that okay. So then the only reason it's a stall is because he was gonNA do to injure right. Kurt Angle was nostalgia when he was brought back to wwe and they use them for a little bit and then they moved off but he wasn't done in matches or anything like that because he really manager or something like that road manager. So you're telling so you're the you're nostalgia. Argument is what I'm saying is bullshit because you're saying that the people that they're using now our stall when it's no they're the stars of the industry right now ten years from now. We'll be nostalgia. That's who use while the mainstay. Because I thought you were trying to talk about how. They're not making stars right now. I'm just like really. What are you talking about Not can think of is Andre. Who's Andreotti made to look like fucking bad ass right now? Right Andrade were relatively new. Drew McIntyre is relatively return. Is this whole new? Persona is dramatic dramatic entire. Looks like a fucking bad ass right now. Ria Ripley was just wrestlemainia defended NFC championship. We said how amazing they made her look in that match. So flare is a current star. Right now becky. Lynch is a current star right now. Bailey Sacerbey's these are girls that were in annex t five years ago that are fucking running things right now there are stars and they are younger stars and they are stars that came out of WWe's developmental cysts. I if you're looking for people that you wish they were putting up more. Sometimes they just don't get overman in sometimes I'll be very honest www destroyed but at the same time people get over how they get over. Rea- Ripley is one of those people that is out of left field than it's coming through looking like fucking tanker truck. I say that because I actually I did I watch UK. So that's the only reason I can't of go like I knew it's not about who you knew was coming. It's you just said they're not building stars now and they are building stars now. What is the only place they are really doing? Is All smackdown not exceed? Because we are Ripley like. Let's say she did her to run an INEX- case you do in Iran and then also wrestlemanias and I thought it was already told you feel like putting a show with the slapped interface with entire see. What is the vision but I'M NOT GONNA go into that one but you built her to look so grow inexorably pull up onto the main stage. You give an ill. That wasn't a big. That was smart. If you want to get into the next crowd compared to a you always you always say this the NFC crowd is way smaller and way more intimate than Raw or smackdown wrestlemainia crowd right but we also said that the Women's division and next seas way better than anything on both Rosh nightgown no. I'll say they're utilizing it better. I won't say it's better outside of the four horse women who really utilize proficiently on at one. Rosser also now proficiently to where the point. Where like. Oh don't feel like they're just don't against one of these four women outside of the four horsewoman. Yeah Well Ruby. Riot was getting a great run there before she got injured. Okay so she's been done again. She's got come back to be thrown into a storyline you. I'm sorry. I wish she supposed to have a title shot already. Not Supposed to know if you Dick Squat. The whole storyline with her. What those those riot squad. They Know Rise Squad. They national resulted somewhere outside of just eliminated chamber where they are just got there. S Tore Up. I fucking Shanab as released. Sarah Logan this other between eliminated chamber into wrestlemanias. The amber moon was great until she was being showcase quite well until she was injured. Nine Jack's came back is being pushed really hard bianca. Bel Air Right now. Looks Amazing. It hasn't done any large magnum. Nicky Cross are now the women's tag team champions Alexa Bliss. It's still being Featured you said who bliss the. I'll give you the list for sure. Niger what is it? What is our dunces coming up to our besides have oh six hundred really weeks weeks ago. What are you a really risky? They put more manager position. There only put her in. She had minimal time aside that six hundred tag the first she also it was a restarted is a massive restarted. Three fucking times which stupid. Yeah in fresh ways but she also in a singles match against Selena Vega where she was showcased lifting her up just as she normally does she fucking looks like a God damn bad ass in the royal rumble. Before she was even called up. What are you talking about many? She's been ron raw for two weeks. How are you saying? She's not getting the push getting a push per se. I think what not to look what you're saying. What are they doing with anyone? Outside of the four horsemen when Bianca. Belair ran through that. Fuck in a royal rumble. Looking like a piece was tied for the most eliminations with Shane. Baseless I fully agree that they shit the bed when Shane didn't take that title. Also becky at Wrestlemainia or they way ended without having Shane and just take a deep cute Shannon. Taking D Q. I agree it made more sense than taking that role up loss at did make her look weak at the end the Wrestlemainia but even still she looked rough in the tough in the royal rumble. She looked like a beast. Goddamn Elimination Chamber. Now you need to start building your up because you kind of made her look weak some guessing. I'm just kind of your sitting in a moment. You're a a a thing where you're saying this isn't happening but it's not happening at a way you want it to say you're saying it's not happening when it actually is. Are you like still again? No I stopped allows okay. I want him for Lakers. I switched ideas which falls over from your mom. Hotspot response what I say. Could you stop you? GonNa Statement or question. I did ask lagging. I said No. I wasn't lagging and I did finish my statement. I said because it's not happening the way you want it to your saying. It's not happening but it is. I just named off five different women that they've put outside of the four horsewoman on. Wwe television including major acres is a I'll give you Alexa Bliss for sure. Nothing Nikki garage discount riding the coattails of Alexa at this point. 'cause they had nothing else for her. She's got her she's got it she's a two time women's tag team champion of what was about to say so as much migrating rockets never got official title run. I got oh I can't I me personally. I can't get too mad about things that are happening with a lot of these people because now we're over a month into this whole thing and they're kind of slowing things down as a whole anyway. Like right you know you only see maybe three four matches night now even on a three hour episode of raw and they they're just kinda putting things at halt so like you know for me. I'm just Kinda like no. You know I'll be honest. There are some of these that I loved. The fact that I'm getting spore segment matches with allistair black and Apollo crews. What fucking match that winning right. This is actually something. It's might be a huge blessing in disguise them having to go without crowds in with a very limited staff because again you saw how well Apollo crews looks on that raw then the qualifying match wanting to bank right. Then you WanNa fucking cut in this week and you saw a Sony Deville and mainly rose. The Promo that Sony. The bill cut on her. Mandy was amazing. You gave her a microphone and you didn't have any interruptions. It was just them talking sitting back going. This is wonderful. Watch got more women that are in a major role on something right now. So Mandy Rose Nikko Nick just disappear. Tissue Miss Neck. Remember when Nick was awesome? Good time wasn't three seconds. Ville all right so we'll get out of this but we are going to go into something. That is Nick Walker. I push the button on my air pot in it So let's go on to something. That is a major thing so again we were just talking about it. This no crowd lightly staffed not as many people having matches go for quite a few segments and is working for things on raw and on smackdown annexed has always been good In our eyes but now there something else being majorly affected this year we saw wrestlemainia go two nights for the first time they said it was the biggest wrestlemainia too big for one night and that was because they had to figure out how to work everything during this cove in. Nineteen Krona virus pandemic. Well there's another problem with this state of California has announced that they weren't going to do large gatherings of sports or anything like that concerts and stuff for a year. They announced this In late April mid April Within this week's art it's only April nineteenth delayed probably announce it in the middle of this week that we are going up They said a year till mid April while yeah so because of that wrestlemainia thirty seven in Hollywood is looking like a what the fuck because that's supposed to be going on March twenty eighth. Two Thousand Twenty one which is a couple of weeks before disband supposed granted. We don't know anything right. There's a A vaccine said to be about a year away as well. Okay according to what the scientists are saying you know vaccines are yet to develop them. You have to test them and you have to get. It's very possible that they could be approved. Faster is testing is done on a wide scale. And there's a lot of results and everything looks good. There's also a possibility that it won't be so currently in I'll read this Wrestling we love wrestling Here's the article written by Josh Gad. Non I can't pronounce that night. Oh look there's many many many can't hear whatever is still much larger whereby charges but I was just saying that like wherever you put the stuff we can hear everything. So we've been here on the yourself So here's a report resume. Thirty seven is scheduled to take place at so fi stadium in Inglewood California on March. Twenty Eighth Two thousand twenty one but as noted earlier this week that may not happen either due to the ongoing corona virus pandemic or the potential so-fi stadium construction away. That's crazy Angeles Mayor Eric. Garcetti confirmed on Wednesday. The city may not authorize large events for one year which would be well until twenty twenty. One it's difficult to imagine us getting together in thousands anytime soon said Garcetti Corona virus briefing. We've got many many miles to walk before we're going to be back in those fire. Large gatherings such as concerts and sporting events may not be approved in city for at least one year. So if I stadium also announced the Grand Opening for July twenty fifth and twenty six was pushed back to a future date. Twenty twenty one russell. Gold reported earlier today. The WR begun researching a plan. B for an alternative venue to host Wrestlemania thirty seven case. Wwe is not able to put on a show in California. The report noted. It's too early to speculate on exact locations or details. This year's Wrestlemainia thirty six move from imaging same Tampa Performance Center I Guess Nick. Start OFF WITH HUMANA. Either construction delaying opening either crooner buyers pandemic stopping it. W W should look for another city to do this in something. That maybe wasn't his isn't it. Hit as hard possibly could be opened in functioning. California was was one of the top three states for a very long time as far as cases right. Currently I think Michigan is above. Michigan is like top three deaths and everything that is pretty fucking horrible but I think California has fallen select number five in cases which means obviously they're clearing up because the dropping down the line but all these other states that don't have as many cases so maybe. Ww Look there should wwe even still be pushing forward with this year's Sir man. I mean right now the way it is. I don't think that you can like okay. My thought process and you know obviously by any by any stretch of the imagination. I don't know what all goes into planning this shit but you know my first thought is OK. Well we're scheduled to have this March twenty eight th. They're telling me that they're not going to reopen all this stop for a year. Let's try and push back till April twenty eighth. We'll just push back wrestlemainia a little bit this year. We'll kind of reconfigure some. Thanks here no big deal. I don't know if that's feasible but I'm paper. Initially that sounds like the way to go but I think that you have a very small window to figure that out so like come the end of. May If you don't know some more details to help you make that decision. I think you have to go to a different state Because from what? I've heard California's the only state. That's Kinda come up with their decision so I I think you have to go to another state and pushed the California back to twenty two especially considering they're not even done building it and they don't know when they're going to be done bill I will say that. According to the guidelines for opening states that has put out by the President. I fully agree with it right. these guidelines make sense? There's there Phased opening state there's four phases. Each phase is determined based on two weeks of before you get to phase one. You have to go through these fourteen days of guidelines and that's fourteen days of cases are falling hospitalizations. Following deaths are falling consistently declined for fourteen straight days. And the hot before you get into phase. One hospitals have to be every hospital has to be working at a non emergency style basis. Like it's just normal operations it's not like. Oh my God. There's seventy five percent. Beds are filled with normal regular hospital operations. So that's before you can even go into phase one and then apparently each phase is supposed to be taken those same guidelines for fourteen days. So you can go fourteen fourteen fourteen. Something spikes back to shit. Let me work phase wanting bending how it is as a fucking plan. I think that makes sense. Because it's all about promoting everything going down and opening as that happens so it's very possible that when California hits these phases and by the way face three I wanna say it was when they started saying they can have a large larger. Gatherings face. Four is when everything's Open Open. You gotta think each one of these is about two weeks. So that's you know about two months. Opening period of everything stays fine. Everything goes down and then you're back to being normal. I guess right now you would call it a in about two months. So let's say California hits that right hip that and not in two months because obviously they're one of the hardest hit states so they're probably not going to even be able to get into phase one until June maybe July depending on you know how how it looks so they're two months could be September October. I don't think has to make a decision until. Wwe is ready to start selling tickets. Which I believe if I remember correctly this year for this Wrestlemainia didn't happen till right around November. I think they put it out like yielding to advance with a ticket packages. They put the package is up and then they put the single tickets up and I think the single tickets went on sale December. They gave a month because I was looking at him. And I was like this and then like four weeks later. Those packages are gone. Watch and then. They had the single tickets for sale. What's many other usually put up on a light post on about the packages for Wrestlemania after Summer Slam? Usually don't they sometime around there? They announced that they'll be going on. They didn't go on sale. That early won't because Walnut we got as a matter of fact no after summertime royal rumble packages. Because that's when we start looked into those because we were thinking of doing these bachelor party at the royal rumble so yeah so it was a royal rumble August yet. A push that rumble. So Nick I agree with you. I think that. Ww should be thinking about this. But I don't think they need to do that is early as you said. I think this year was obviously a way different thing for wrestling. Tickets were already sold packages ready so people had fights obviously everything I think. Ww Meek you get away with looking at things weightings out as long as there's no tickets to sell you or they're not going behind on selling tickets if come October November when they're putting everything and 'cause obviously you gotta okay. This is the layout. Here's how we selling. Here's the tiers. They gotTA figure that out when they start going into that in detail probably about a month ahead. I think that's when they have to look at California's not ready to say they're opening up into a phase four by then I think. Then you've gotta go okay. Who IS FOR SURE? GonNa be ready to do this and maybe go there so I agree with you so many. What do you think A thing I agree with you guys but I also think that demand many years he probably will decide the move mania before he pushes it back pushing it back switching it switching going to a different state or for other they'll probably switch to a different state before like what would you say it'll be smarter. Push back if need be but I think they're probably more likely switch states if they came in response fast enough. I had mentioned like the idea of them pushing it towards the end of April. But I'll so okay then many will start off with you. Give me a state that you think would be okay to switch to obviously. I'm not saying go do corona virus research or anything like that but we know what states are Major New York New Jersey Florida Louisiana California Michigan. Obviously here What's one that you're hoping or you would think is a possibility for them to relocate to They got the headquarters in Connecticut. So maybe they'll go somewhere out there. Maybe make it close to home in the area. That is infected Connecticut. Yeah Not New York. Still right over. I'm trying to. I can't find the maybe somewhere like Denver. Oh my high stadium. Do something out there Okay Nick What about you short answer? Detroit I think I like the idea of Minnesota the new Viking Stadium has really Nice fucking huge and I think an agenda yours so you know the weather can be a little sketchy out. You know in the Midwestern area so I think that would be a good spot okay. I'm just wanting to look up to cases and everything like that news about DC somewhere Pennsylvania Pennsylvania still one of the higher ones right. Now I know that it's actually number four right now. Michigan is number six as far as cases Zoolander Kelly now Yup Connecticut's actually in the top ten because again it's over there. Colorado Colorado is under Ohio. Which is way down there with only nine thousand cases. That's possibility I like Colorado. It's good call same with Trying to find Minnesota Minnesota's way down about whisk gray or green bay do ambled cold wrestlemainia broke when he talked about that'd be weights and Co. There's obviously states that are in the lower parts that are not Arkansas he's real wrestlemainia. I'm trying to how my mind. Huge stadiums that they could sell and like I. I run a lot of college stadiums through my head but then you run into the issue of bleacher seats and I don't necessarily know if that's going to be very very good for the Hawaii because I've never. I've never done anything in a way. They that's true they haven't done anything in a why now in Hawaii is way too early at five hundred sixty eight cases Alaska even lower two hundred. Twelve chases WAI L. Also maybe even take it to Canada for you know man. I've been saying they should go international frozen mania for a while. Even like with your McIntyre being your chance go look like there's more possibility going to Europe again. I'm I'm in agreement with you. I think that if they move it they need to move to a state. That doesn't that's not going to be a problem. That is very possible to be as open as possible for this. I think it'll kill it if they're now Somewhere like it's crazy to look at on. What is much as I would want them to be in the Mid West. I wouldn't want them to be in the mid West late April until late wrestlemainia. You know I feel like that's kind of setting yourself up for failure only like I would love to announce Michigan's big house because Michigan's big house would be the greatest attendance period. No College Stadium. Bigger Artie hold over. One hundred thousand fans just for football. Y- then put in the seats on the field and that dramatically jumps that number one hundred twenty thousand people if yeah and you destroy your own but again that's assuming arrested meeting could be held in that kind of what right. It's a huge problem so I agree with you that they will say. Don't just don't believe it until I said don't move it immediately. Just they probably will remove the last the next month or so. They'll make that decision even be. That's not even going to be a discussion until a couple months down the line. I'm so bachelor releases Let's talk about some of the fallout from these releases and things like a couple of MC put shirts up on trial wrestling teams melodies a major w stars that are now free to put their own merch out there Zack Ryder He. Slater and Drake Maverick have already put some stuff out on pro wrestling cheese. Good brothers as well. Good brothers as well So Zack Ryder had the biggest selling shirt day. When he had the Hashtag not there from his release tweet to Matt still here not there then now his not. Their shirt was the biggest selling should of day at pro wrestling tease Are you guys excited for to see what these guys are doing? Outside of it or like do you think they can be a real good thing nick. I'm pretty excited. I think it definitely could be a good thing. I mean some of these guys have a good amount of talent that they can hold their own. They might not have been over as over as they wanted to be with a wwe crowd but if they're utilized in a different manner and they they have a whole different angle going into another company. Yeah I mean it's I don't WanNa say it would be a game changer. But it definitely GonNa make things a lot more interesting in the next six months or so reminded me a tweet me Say Zack Ryder. Goes eight W TEAMS CODY FOR THE NEXT YEAR? Co crews in the top ten shirts sellers of the week on pro wrestling. Tease Mac Cardona. Who's from an owner Zack? Ryder number. Four number ten is Heath Miller. He Slater. I got fired shirt now. Now it's what's great about this because obviously it's in the style of the kids but it's I got fired There's really there is no t shirt higher than riders outside of a mystery. Grab bag for eight dollars. Then there's a grab box Grab a w grab bag mystery shirt for ten miles and then the league champion. Bandanna from Chris Jericho which is only fifteen writer. Shirt is only twenty bucks like even even throw the twenty-five up there Mo- shirts a twenty four ninety nine. He threw his twenty. He is Twenty four ninety nine and technically again even in front of him those three things and then a botch for four bucks. So there's one two three four five. His is number six shirt overall for shirts. Specific shirts to buy to get your number one shirt being writer Makmur donor and your number two number six shirt being heath rockstar. Spud is down there with spud twenty four seven shirt. Obviously playing you know. Wouldn't it said Maverick? Twenty four seven a gallon Anderson Good brother shut down there as well. Bryan as well what? Brian Myers Curt Hawkins. He has one as well. Yeah but it's not in. I'm talking about the top selling shirts. That's why mentioned it because it's not in the top selling so again you have at six. Was He loving? Plus for fifteen sixty seventy eighty nineteen is spot so three of the top twenty seventy shirts of the week so far since they've been put out are these guys that are were just released smitty. Do you think so. It also came out this week that these releases anyone on the main roster has ninety days ninety days. No no compete. Clause is in effect but I believe they're getting paid for it as well. Exceeds thirty days pay annexed. Tea is thirty days. Thanks her just going out there. It's many I was going to So may draw anyone on smackdown and they were released ninety days thirty days for annex. Pay Like Amnesty. You've got people are reportedly getting paid for thirty days. I don't Ross. Mike is Nothing. It's nothing has been nothing I saw has been said about that. I am so if you're even if you're just living off old. The T shirts not a bad little. Give it to have her. What do you think if they can keep some? Yeah until this over. It'd be a good thing for them but then are what is it. What is this all this all over the world like the worlds are always there in wrestling world so much out? There now I I never really thought about. If it's IT opens. Yeah so I got about the whole. Zack Ryder thank him. format Cordona headed. I actually see him. And he w somewhere because he's friends with cody and how they pretty much get their friends in there home. So yeah I mean sell the shirts and I I do agree with many of the world is kind of their oyster moving forward and you know I know we talk a lot about. Oh this guy could go to www. But I don't really hear impact being talked about too much and I did well. He and but not as much as like you hear. Us mentioned a W W way for these places to go impact seems to me to be like an afterthought or even like new Japan from well. It's my understanding and correct me if I'm wrong but new Japan obviously isn't where they were a year or two ago. You know what I mean. So guys like Galveston Anderson going over there. Even some of these other guys that have a lot of talent go over there and and try and build that brand more. Yeah there. There's a lot. There's more wrestling going now and more opportunity for them to make a decent amount of money in there ever was or so when everything opens back up. It's going to be wonderful just to watch. Hopefully some of these guys get put into a spot where they are able to just shy. Yeah Yeah just just just explode not so much shine but to truly put their talent in the spotlight now. I think that that's different than shining only because not because I want to argue. It's many I agree with what many said but you can like okay. People can get a chance to shine. And that's fine but I don't want I don't think they should. What they can do is just a chance. I think it is them to have career setting momentum similar to what drew did when he was first line drouin on the indie scene and made himself a star to where WWE was like. We need to bring him back and then they kept going with his star even though there was close to it is now. You're wwe champion. Champion came to the main roster flow got injured. You know things like that But again to the point is he truly made himself stone. It wasn't just a chance to shine and I really think. Look the guy who set the bar for getting yourself over over is Matt Cardona. Zack Ryder. He did it on his youtube show before. Wwe Even thought a fucking two. He got himself over. He was the internet champion. Had himself a belt made and everything I can just imagine the ideas that are slowing through. This guy's head right now is one already. There is one thing that I wanted to mention game stream and on mixer and he spoke about the comes. Marin gotta go gotTa go to twitch Oh game is streaming like. He's a he said he was doing. Makes her mike generic go twitch like everybody else so he says that one hurt really bad he's talking about gals engine. The only way I can explain. Is that these guys are my family and I couldn't take care of my little brothers. I didn't manage to do that and I feel responsible for them. Being released. Its devastate. Nick what are your thoughts about eight hundred? I get worries common from You know those guys have been you know attacked for a long time and and you know they're good friends in the ring. Good friends outside of the ring so I get where he's coming from but I mean he also. I don't think he should really take that much of the blame because he doesn't have a whole lot of polling. Ww Two In a creative aspects so like oh well have them do this and let's do whatever we can to push these guys and get them over. That's not really up to him. I mean he can kind of put in to Johnson and you know give his thoughts as best as he can as best as we know that he's able to but I don't think you should get down on himself too much about it and again. This is another blessing in disguise for them. They might be a little upset that they're losing their jobs with wwe but you know they did really well in new Japan and now they're going back so many agree with nick pretty much agey kind of a little bit hard on herself about them. Getting released I but also for like this opportunity from the refined passion for the business instead of just being there. This is just being somewhere. Eight eight eight years high stocking companies. Well he say he w upset anybody. So let's move on to. Wwe upcoming review money in the bank. There's a few things that are set officially for this Ron Stroman verse Bray Wyatt for the Universal Championship Bailey versus to Meena for the snack championship. And then we have some of the money in the bank ladder participants set off for the women it's automatically already set the OSCO Fazlur Nyah. Jack's Dana Brooke are going to be in. There are no standard record going to be in there on the next match Lacey Evans. Sasha banks to see them goes into the money in the bank ladder match then. There's another one that's to be determined And then Daniel Bryan is the first one announced for the men's money in the bank. Then we have a Ramos. Zero or Murphy Alastair Blacker Austin Theory Apollo crews are. Mvp Drew Goulash King Corbin. And then there's another one that's to be determined. Let's start off with the women's money in the bank ladder match many. Who are you thinking? Is the smarter idea to the smartest idea to win in the bank. Briefcase for what? What am I holding on for? Oh 'cause he's leaving all right fine. He wasn't leaving. I was kicked out of kicked out or something. Now we have the whole time. I wasn't leaving 'cause like literally just like my screen just went out and I had lower back on. Oh Yeah did you have a chromebook? So the smartest person approach put that on Then we've become the money in the bank best to put on. I go up insulin. He'll so Well let's say we're you know. Become wait probably Nyah. Jacks with with the case probably will make sense and especially US away to somebody jump shows over catching on Bailey right. Yeah I kinda like that night. Jax Idea but I don't know I I wasn't you know a year ago. A huge Lacey Evans Fan by any stretch of the imagination. But I think that I think she's also a good choice for it because I think that she starting to get a pretty good fan base at based on what I saw the four. This whole thing happened You know I can't really judge that now because there's no crowd reaction but I liked the storyline. They're doing with her. I think it it would work. I mean not to be too cliche. But the all American marine coming up getting the chance with the money in the bank briefcase I. I think it kind of makes sense. That's a good steal good story for where we're at right now. So I think Lacey would be a good choice. I think baiser would be a great choice. Unless you're going to put that belt on baseler really fast at the summer slam pay per view. Shayna baiser taking that money in the bank case in stalking whoever the champ is becky specifically right now I think Shayna baiser would play a great stocking role. Similar little rock listener played when Brock Wesner held up briefcase. It's like he spoke to sell up. You brought to the box on box so Shanna Besar. I think we'll be a great person has stocker. Because she's just this fucking killer. I like Shayna Baiser. And which it as a group the shaded thing to lately with Niger. If you WANNA to have her stock boat like lakes that will brock when he had a show Saturday. Both champions think like would accompany Shayna. I don't see you're having a reason. This Dog Bailey. Or whoever's out champ time are they that holy? See that you're talking becky. I don't get some of the smackdown with a shampoo already. What are you talking about what she talks back now? Champion for? Who beat Shane a pin to win? That table threatened match. Who did Shane a pin to triple threaten survivor? Series Bailey Bailey Bailey? Yeah there's it's there's a story line setup automatically with that I already beaten you. I can beat you again. He did Bailey in table. I could see Shane a going for one of the titles. Come Summer Slam without the money in the bank briefcase and then whoever has the briefcase trying to cash in an Jane Abi and like no fuck that and her just destroying everybody to take the title. Fuck the money in the bank. Statistics all that. That'd be too. I kind of think. Also also I think even. Sasha was if Sasha qualified saucer with the case makes sense going into China slow-burning this whole sausage slow-burn this whole sausage. Turn on Bailey. Thing yeah so the women's Actually. There's a lot of has really good like anybody. Would that case pretty much like central? Yeah. It doesn't seem like I mean I don't want to say it doesn't seem like anybody's thrown in obviously Oscars Maybe we'll finally think of something with Oscar. Put with this case. Dana Brooke seems like your. Yeah but again. It's not like they're out of people in there that are just going to be thrown it in either match or have never been thrown into these notches. Sometimes people they throw in the end up blowing really good. Yeah and they get over. And that's what we said before like nightmare. Look you can argue it all you want but there are matches that put you over and noticed where the crowd jumps behind you. Granted it's way different trying to figure it out now because at crowd has gone but at the same time. Look at the chatter on the Internet. Look it's not like the crowd is dawn. It's just the crowds now in the arena. You see the chatter on twitter who these people are talking about. Sony Ville Blue Wall. She tried it right. So it's just that Promo on in person he'd been holy fucking Shit Sony the bill she gets older you know. And that's what you're looking for now. It's you're looking more for the metrics of the social media and what people are talking about but she got over just in a different way for the men's money in the bank match. Dick Nick will start with you. Daniel Bryan has already confirmed. And you either got mysterious or mercy Alastair Blacker Austin Theory Apollo. Mvp Drew Dulack or Kim Corbin. And then there's another to determine one who's ninety mention. Let's just go with the names are mentioned. Danube-rhine me and the only one that's for sure in who you think would be a smart person to put that briefcase. That's hot so I WANNA see Alastair Black goal for the title. I don't I don't know if I want to see him win the money in the bank. I just don't necessarily know if it like kind of fits who he is but then again perfectly well then on the other hand. I'm like well. Does it really matter because it? Kinda does like I'm kinda split down the middle so with all that I will say alisher black for sure. I'm a big black fan and I'd like to see what he does. I think it's going to be a slow burn within. He's not going to be somebody that just like. Oh Fuck Dan. I'M GONNA jump out whenever I want. Go It's GONNA be a real slow burn. I think it makes a Lotta sense for him. And he's also my big but I think it makes much more sense for him because he just jumped out. Come knock on my door if you WANNA challenge me image to. I'm GonNa come after you now him with the money in the bank coming after people. I think it would be genius. Smitty I really don't know. Yeah I WANNA know. Who's all in the match I like? I like to see also black win Is a any of the names that are listed even the ones that are set com this or this person who of the names listed? You look at going. This is the person that I would love to see this person to win. I want I would like to see. Probably we'll see stales play going again on it gets Buddy Murphy Oh even. I felt like Murphy's gone like they're gonNA put mysterious there but I would like to see everybody Murphy. A shot the experiment. Just have experiment like they have an expert with the money in the bank as before right so. But that's a you think of all these people listed Buddy Murphy should be the one to win a liked to Novi. He's gotta go still agree with allistair black because there's also the factor that the last qualifying matches on spent. Yeah but we also don't write down because he's taken Austin theory which is going to be a good match man. Oh I can't wait. Can't wait awesome theory man. He was on our radar from when he was in fucking evolve wrestling and he's woo is good. He is good as booker. T. Chucky ducky quack quack. Well that's not booker. T. UP BOOKER T. That's something that Booker T. stole from a comedian. Not Booker. T. He is a big stowed at bucket. Second Lag. That's not booker. T. Weird to me that he got that over and it was a comedian and I used to watch on Def comedy jam. They used to do more at what the original which one Chris Tucker who need him. I just knowing John. That's it for us. Latest gentleman boys and girls children of all ages. Maybe the next week did you hear about the rumor. Is it the whole climate corporate ladder thing? They have money At headquarters on. That's happening that in a cinematic tau style mashed up the money in the bank matches so pretty much they got to go. There is going to start on the ground floor. Derby headquarters would have have a race. Set up on on top of the roof and had the climb ladders against briefcase. Okay that this is what the money makes this year again. It's rumors we really. Don't go into rumors for sure it's like I saw the smackdown. They said that this is what they're going to do. Yeah they announced down. How do I miss them? Start from the ground floor. It worked the way up Up to the top of the headquarters Nicole corporate ladder match. Yeah climbing the corporate ladder cool. She's getting rid of the name because it was Jericho's idea we'll talk more about this hopefully next week. More things coming in for the money in the bank. Obviously things are going to be going further into stuff. I'll be honest. I'm kind of over. This crowd shows hate watching them. They're annoying to me like I said before. I think the crowd is fifty percent and I think then there's the other fifty percent that's made up by little things. Performers are like twenty five percent cameraman and everything all that setup but I think the crowd is majority of this and it's getting painful to watch wrestling without a crowd. I appreciate the shining moments that are in it. You know starting to Bills Promo the Apollo crews Alastair Black match but man things like you know other parts of it is just like I just wish. There was a crowd for this moment. You could definitely tell where it's missing so we'll talk about it next week. See we got going on Ladies and gentlemen thank you so much for listening so much for watching makes you go to breaking down the ring dot com if find all of our social final emerge and everything that we are group's many Roenick nineteen this ladies and gentlemen again. Thank you so much for listening for watching week out.

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Breaking Down the Ring September 18th

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Annex T had its first low debut live event on USA USA the first hour of it before it hit the network for the final hour. Do we have new champions. Do we have new number one contenders for Shayna Bazeley the women's championship we will get all of this and more this week as we break down in what opole year search for us hey this is professional sure wrestler and professional podcast. Colt Boom Boom Cabana. My name is Jill. Lacrosse case is the smell scarlet guys machine Bryan Cave. This is Ryan from pro wrestling tease savvy or not listening to the art of wrestling but you made a decent joints because you're listening. You're listening to and you're listening and you're listening to bliss breaking down the ring right down the rain breaking down the ring breaking down the breaking down the rain down a witch true. It's true you are listening listening to the most inappropriate pro wrestling show and mother fucking world y'all listening to breaking down the ring way crew. The new undisputed champ the whole who Athen Joe bless you nickname with Nick Nemeth all right this is smitty and me the Almighty one Mikey himself Joanne. EG GIG tighter on on nick. Oh Man I know I don't WanNa Ziglar again right into it. Luckily you need to you need to be all Robert Rude close to Laurie needs to bring back that creepy mustache to know that's all Reuss Reuss of del Rio Ladies and gentlemen. Thank you so much for tuning in remember remember remember remember the eighth of September. Sorry just kidding. Remember the sixth of October City because curls. That's mother fuckers the sixth of October sure it's the same day as WWe's. Helena sell pay per view but it is our debut Sundays Sundays show starting at eleven. Am going into one PM every Sunday. Now we'll be moving from Wednesday's because wrestling is changing changing and because wrestling is changing we are changing Monday night. You were going to get raw continuously as it's always been but on Wednesday Wednesday night starting with an x t is going on on USA and then on Ta ws weekly live show will be happening and then of course starting starting October fourth Friday night you get smacked down on Fox which is kicking off with a huge. Wwe Championship match you. Ge- edged edge championship match. It's going to be Brock lessner taking on Kofi Kingston as Kofi defenses. WWe championship against the beast east in Kearney so yes then we are going to go on Sunday Sunday morning afternoon. Wherever you're coming from eleven am eastern standard time but again if for some reason you slow it to early for you? It's a little bit too late for you. Because you listen to us all around the fucking world thank you to everybody broacasts loyal. We'll fucking listeners out there and fucking Australia. You know everyone else in Vegas. You know this progressing scorecards. They listen to us but fuck. That's three hours off of us. That's still super early dance to begin up at eight so again. Ladies and gentlemen you can still subscribe to us on our apple podcasts and we'll be coming to spotify soon. If you describe to us on our podcast makes you comment. Make sure you rain. US Five Stars shout out to Jesse Shadow Shout Stefan all paying attention to leaving ours comments on our youtube and on our facebook right now what's up everybody so let's fucking get into it man were going to kick off with the big news everything thing going on right now with an x t the first hour was live on the USA network kicked off with the fatal four way women's match it was Bianca Bel Air L. Shirai Mia Yelm and Candice Larae fighting for the number one contender ship for Shane Obeys lers annex t women's championship and what a great fucking match that was you know some of us a lot of drive here obviously drive here but some of us a little bit little bit house no so many he would never drive here. Fugger doesn't even have a license so joe you're taking. We're GONNA start with you. You're the fucking champ bro so. You'RE GONNA fucking kick this off for us. How did you feel about that fatal. Four way women's management well. L. Only saw the first five minutes of it really yes. Oh did you so you don't even do you know at least one one. No I don't Oh candice law. Raise your winner and taking on the chain of Baiser for the title. No it hasn't been announced yet if I had to take a fucking guests for when it's going to be probably tober second during another women's championship match don't say it's. I don't know if I'd bet money I would probably bet on that sub Craig Sandy. How wow well just the first five minutes that you're able to catch Joe? What were you thinking about. Was it the smart partway to kick off. NFC's I show live on. WW ON USA network it's not the first live show it's their first for those extended because they've done live on USA before I thought it was a bold move to kick it off with the women's match so basically for history purposes the first ever annex t show on USA the first person you saw besides triple h was Shirai and that can never be taken away from her so that's I don't know I feel like that's really putting the ball not only in her car but in in the women's Vince Court for that brand so I think it's the I think it's a big statement bold move and a big honor for all the women in the match nick so this match went off. There're error a lot of talk on twitter and everything is it's also the first ever annex t match to have a commercial break in the middle of it and see. I didn't see that right off off-balance until a lot of people were talking about this on social media and is known for being on the network you go and you get that action action and that action stays in that ring and then you get breaks in between which are small ads and everything but it's kind of like watching a paper you get the wwe ads which is exactly but so now this was your first commercial break which a lot of people have given shit to wwe about many other things before that being said our how would you do. You feel like this is going to be. Maybe something they should try to fix and maybe go back to the old way of just commercials in between or or adds basis ads based and W W is going to do it. USA wants well. W W is going to do a USA wants. I don't like it. I've never been a fan of it even when they pulled the the match into the corner of the screen I I don't I still has for that. I still get up during every time and I don't. I don't like it. I think especially with the being very show they they should have kinda shied away from it. What was good about it. Being their first show. Show is the fact that it still looked like an x t sure there were subtle differences. The stage ramp is a little bit wider. The area outside of the ring is a little larger It's not as so enclosed as close. It is to a barricade as to the ring and the announcers removed from right there at the stage to I guess hard Cam side. It should be because the cameras facing it so to the left. If you were like the hard cam ever turn left you'd see the announcers Beth Phoenix Rancho McGinnis and Marlin all of their widened around the ring so they could fit. I'm assuming I don't know exactly what dimensions change but a lot of people were like is the bring bring bigger nope. Ww used a twenty twenty ring for a very long time now and has always been the same ring not changing so little tweaks tweaks nothing major Z. Smart on triple ages part to still have feel like it was even though it is slight changes yeah I mean we we as wrestling fans like the annex t brand for what it was if you if you make too many too many changes then you fall into the category of all and Scott his hands on this you know what I mean. You have to keep your your distance from the other two brands because that's the one thing you're known for as being different. I personally when I I watched it. The first things I saw an thought were one triple h there's always been smart. You know the way he's done this the way he changed to five live when he got his hands on it triple. H is you know Pun. Not intended attended a a very cerebral with how wrestling should be. He's a huge fan of the old school wrestling which is why he got war games for Annex T see which is why that he puts on these storylines that are just so good that so many people are involved in so the fact that he made tweaks but nothing to where everyone's like. Oh my God this is so much I thought was genius as well as how I thought he was really smart with using these four women to kick it off. Bianca Bel Air is a wonderful talent in the ring. She's a superpower house for a woman in her in her stature actor. I don't want to say like for women but for women in her stature because she's tall but she's very petite still as far as her power. She reminds me of Zarro. It's not the biggest bill but she can. He's very strong for fucking genius. That's a fucking amazing comparison. Yes looking at her. You're not GonNa think oh she can totally press slam a woman the same size as her but she can you know and yes that's spectacular so putting Bianca Bel Air as one of your ah your strongest talents putting ill shrine in there as Joe. You said it best man a lot of people talk about how Great Charlotte Flares says but L. Sharia right now might be the best woman in wrestling diesel. Always people always mentioned like Charlotte Flare Air and like lately a lot of you hear a lot of Tessa Blanchard. you know people mention them to as a lot of being a maybe the best women's men's wrestler to be going today. You never hear Eero E. Oh sure I in that conversation and I think she should be in that conversation fully fully agree with that and then of course Kenneth Ray is just the lovable one and that lesson and we're not discounting me Yamile. I'm a huge fan of hers. I Love Me Love Me. Some Mia Mia Yelm just had her shot at the women's championship came up short I wouldn't I wouldn't have minded either. Four of these women going up against Shayna baiser candidate will raise up for her bianca only because I've already seen it a couple times but all all of them except candice have already taken on Chenab as later you know what I'm saying so bianca you're right had but one of them was was a triple threat match as well and you know e also in that triple threat match and Yo sure I had a one had a one on one match so candidate is the one to to finally be facing Shayna baiser. I guess the question is is candice. Lorraine Nick probably the could she be the one to finally finally take it off of Shayna baseler. I don't know man. I think it's possible but I just don't well well. There's a couple different ways. I could look at it if they do have that match which is looking like they'll have that match on the same night as eight. WW's I think it's possible if they don't the no. I don't think so not yet Z. Same question. I don't think it's believable right. You've had Shayna Shayna run through all these women with I mean hurry neo Shirai really good matches. She ran through the a m. She ran through Bianca Bella Belair there and then here's Kansas Laurey that stands like what five foot nothing and I mean other than I mean you would have to give her like that ray mysterious Keratin but it's just not believable like a believable matches. Chena baiser beats cancer in thirty seconds. I resigned like from from the way you build both of them up so far but I mean it's it's wrestling storyline so they probably will. We'll have like David beating Goliath but I mean to me. It's not believable Joe. What are your thoughts on it will will. I mean speaking of storyline storyline why she's got candice. l'oeil that is has to whole three things working against her. She's still got uh you know a blood feud with e o Sharon lurking in the background and then Shayna baiser has heard to cronies that can always play a factor so storyline wise cancelled the odds stacked against her big time and I don't see her coming out of this one on top. I agree outside of bumbling interference between from the other three because it might might not even come from Shofar and Duke could come Yoshahara could come do something you know yeah and she's always lurking in the beker. Yes so I mean Kansas would need a lot of help to get this this win. A possible sure probable no not. I don't think we've seen that early friend recently in the past has been Ryan while we all see saw so how that went so she doesn't really have friends unless Dakota kyw was to do some Kinda run but she's not top another small malpas. She's team kick though right teeny. I don't see Dakota standing up to any three of those Chabrier Dryer or Duke or shift here. I mean you almost have to have candidates like get her ass kicked from multiple like episodes or weeks or whatever and then just have her snap and has like some kind of mean streak to make it. Even you know somewhat believable yeah it's it's kind of. I guess the whole Bailey thing you know like Bailey as as far as the only reason that this title run finally caught fire for her is she kind of did a little turn and is running roughshod on people doing all the things that everyone wanted her to do with a fucking kid riddick against God Damn Alexa Bliss a year ago but the the difference is she's still playing the same character now. She's just Oh. I'm not really good guy but does he'll ish things which makes her even more. He'll that's how they should have done it. In the first place because Bailey's characters kind of always going to be the way it is so I didn't really thanks it's our I'll just saying how they they didn't really change Bailey's character. They just changed like a couple of things she doesn't ring like taking the the pat offer for hitting her with a steel chair stuff like that where but she still claims to be the same person which makes her a he'll in her own right right moving on from that. Ah Prophecy was laid out by Adam Cole in the beginning of the year and he said Two Thousand Nineteen raped undisputed era. We're going to be as he he said draped in gold and the last annex t show. O'Reilly fish took the annex t tag team championships tips off of the street prophets and then this show ended with Roderick strong verse Velveteen Dream for Velveteen Dreams North American title undisputed heir. Come out a little bit towards the end of it. Dream forgets knocked into the REF. Then dream fights off Adam Cole and Dan Kyle O'Reilly only to hit be hit with roderick strong's finisher. He kicks out of it. He gets up. It's a dream valley driver. He's going up top. Bobby fish jumps up on the apron. The referee is distracted by Bobby Fish. Adam Cole hits a super kick on dream knocking off the top rope into the middle of the ring and then roderick strong hits finish around him again one two three the prophecy is fulfilled. The undisputed era are completely draped in gold annexed. Not Champion is Adam Cole. May North American champion for tea is Roderick strong and your annex t tag team champions. Are Fish Oreilly undisputed era every member holding all of the men's titles the only thing that would change this is candace laret went completely heel on Johnny Gargano joined undisputed era as the first ever female showed that in a couple of weeks and then the undisputed era would have all of the gold a match that was legitimately SPEC fucking tackler storyline wise action wise move wise. It was great. I understand that I don't think Z. Or Joe have seen this match yet another result right yeah because we talked about it nick. You and I our watching it so let's have a conversation with you. just tell me how how did that manager for. I only caught the last five or ten minutes of it but I'm definitely going back and watch later but it was a great match and it's really interesting to see stable. If you WANNA call them faction whatever whatever to have them all draped in gold as over as these guys are one way or another no matter how you look at it. That's old school booking. Though that's that's awesome. I'm really happy with it outside of the Matt Z. Let's let you said it yourself. You went right into where I was thinking of going. some of the best factions stables have all been have all held every title for many many years if not every main title but like even like the nation of domination had like the European champion the icy belt and the tag belt yeah I don't I think the nation of domination is great stable. I don't think there are considered one of the best but even back in the day though they at one point had four out of the five titles titles right so my thought processes is obviously triple. H is running this right and I don't WanNA compare them to evolution because my frame frame of mind is evolution was built on. Here's your current star. Here's your old school. Star and here are the two that you're gonNA bring up smoking or horsemen thing. That's exactly Kluwer I'm thinking with this is as I'll take a beer root. Beer is the undisputed era this generations four horsemen Z. odd I would. I mean the closest thing you're going to get to other other. I mean all right so there were like eight different variations of the four horsemen throughout the years but going to the original where you had add flares the champion Arn and totally relate as the champs and then why am I. Why am I blanking out here. who was the other one well? Anderson or the more popular choice would probably be Berry Wyndham okay yeah but Barry Windham didn't hold cold title right or several titles. I meant during the time like the four horsemen no and neither did aren't Anderson though either I mean it was always flares. No I meant like he might've had the title draped in goal like everybody and the main title someone had the second. I'm sure that happened at some at some point it or another with Barry in there yeah okay I mean but yeah going back this would be the closest thing to that. I mean obviously they're all a lot smaller than every guy mentioned but yeah that would be the this would be. They would be the benchmark benchmark for annex t going forward like if you're going to do another faction in annex t ARA's going to be your benchmark. I don't think those for live in quite the nightlife that the old old four horsemen well the question. The question was Joe is is the undisputed era this generation's for horsemen. I do as far as I'm concerned you. Four horsemen is your greatest stable of all time and that is if you're going to make a stable that is your benchmark stable but like you said Z. GOING FORWARD WITH ANNEX T to have another stable do something they have to be as good if not better than one undisputed areas currently only at this exact moment as they hold every piece of mail gold and T so joe is do you agree with that are are they the benchmark in stables right now in St. Maybe even in other wrestling our weight new Japan like are they now now better. Do you think undisputed era is moved above bullet club win. Bullet Club was at its its popularity absolutely not I. I'm I'm talking. I'm not obviously on. I mean even the bull club right now pretty fucking sweet. I'm I'm not talking like in popularity. I'm talking about as these are. These are your main guys right now. This is how it's really starting to go off. Is this as good as bullet club's best members. I'm even going. We know that one. I don't think so I mean that's members. Currently our best members just overall overall no okay. How about currently that's maybe that's tossup? I Dunno climbing they got they got Kenton now and j white and Thomas Tonga Really Really Eddie Cantor as I tommy when he was in an xt or on the WW roster you got injured so much that like I started out as a huge Fan China hasn't it kind of just well. He's going back there to make a resurgence harder hitting style and he couldn't even stay healthy and a soft style like. Ww that's fluky shit though he can't blame that on I mean injuries happen no matter what kind of style you're working so okay so like in the ring yeah they compared to the four horsemen but as far as like their lifestyle and the image they portray and aw as fascinating they are as characters nowhere near no Noga so but ring style brings del yeah they're every bit as good all right so and but there are they the benchmark then for annexed stables benchmark for. WWe Stab- know your badge sparks going to be like your your DX ax evolution DX. I mean the corporate the Corporate Ministry Gorman there's just so many censored but I mean I mean your your your badge far as your benchmark for making money is probably going to be your deacs and your benchmark for in the ring talent is probably going to be evolution because it was triple h Batista Randy Orton and Rick Flair like yeah. You're not fucking with them. The I mean frantic see but they're also the only stable in Annex T. I believe there's nobody else that Stephen like put anything together to Kinda China feud with them right and if they have they moved up like sanity has moved to the main roster incense disbanded what other stables have there been throughout annex t besides besides sanity and undisputed family that was in its infancy though well yeah but I mean it. It still counts silence. I think that's Uh Nixon love with these. fucking DILLARD's delights donuts that was that was named Lamont Gelo. Let it be no. I did you see what I typed in our chat in the in the on the thing that's what you went enforce. These Jones spectacular always all right so annex t draping gold how long undisputed air draped in gold Vin X T joe. Are they going to hold throughout the rest of two thousand nineteen no no they just move belts around too fast nowadays. Don't I don't care who it is. WHO DROPS I call the dream. No probably probably rally the tag belts in my honest answer. I'm going to go rod because I still think he's going to end up being outcasted and like the of the group I think he's GonNa turn on them or they're. GonNa turn on him eventually. I think that they're going to hold it through two thousand nineteen all four of them all four of them. Are we going to bet on this because you lose money on these kind of bets it's fucking the end of middle of September October November December. We had at least one more annex t takeover correct doc and got to compete with aws they won't get ratings might as well consider. October second kind of a takeover takeover in all right because I to our show on USA taking on aws man. I'm not saying I'm going to bet on this. Twenty Bucks Six Okay Twenty Bucks that undisputed muted era holds the title belts through the rest of twenty nine thousand nine. Yeah Yep I see it and NFL if Adam Cole drops next title. It's at mania weekend. If there's whatever they're going to do with it all right so moving hang onto. WWe Pay per views clash of champions happened over the weekend quite a few title matches quite a few title changes the kickoff. Show so drew gulag retain against Humberto Correo and Lindsey Dorato Aj styles retained against Cedric Alexander Dolf Ziglar and Robert Rubin Seth Ron and Braun Strowman to become the new raw tag team champions smackdown championship women's Championship Bailey defended against Charlotte flare. The new day lost the smackdown tag team championships to the revival and revival becoming the first ever tag team to hold the annex t raw and smackdown live live tag team champions ships twice right. No they held each belt twice they have not this is the first time holding this number but they held raw twice. They held an xt twice but they're the first ones to hold all three of them up next. Alexa Bliss and Nicky Cross defeated needed Mandy rose and Sony Deville to retain the WWe women's tag team champions ships Shinsegei Nakimora defeated and Ms Ho continuing to be the intercontinental champion w him only Kid Sasha banks thanks Becky Lynn by disqualification after Becky Lynn swung the chair and hit a referee and they fought all around the arena and then Becky Lynn's got a ten thousand the dollar five ten g's dog Eric Rowan beat Roman reigns with the help of a returning Luke Harper in the no disqualification match after after Kofi Kingston defended his. Ww Championship against New York and continuing to be Your W. W. E. World world champion until October and then universal champion. Seth rollins second defended forth worth all else in the Wednesday then universal champions. Seth rollins defended against Braun strowman after giving Braun on Stroman four curb stomps and pedigree only to walk up the ramp and be greeted by the fiend who then put a mandible claw on Seth rollins to close close out. WWe clash of champions we filled our pro wrestlers scorecards you can go to pro wrestling scorecards dot com fill your own out for every pay per view the wwe he wants the NFC ones and yes that includes an X. T. U. K. as well as a WS pay per views. What's he had a question about that so if if to all five live is really getting canceled that mean Drake Maverick is Dow officially in the poll to be on the show. We don't know yet if it's cancelled yet. caressing scorecards said that they were. GonNa Adjust some of the scoring things going forward after this pay per view because after I get screwed by a point thanks Daniel appreciate it. Didn't you drink man I would've I would've gotten those points to shut up making sense this change for a dollar. No I don't WanNa make sense and then the OC didn't come out with Aj but I couldn't pick them because they were are on the card which was dumb Daniel Daniel fix it. No they outcomes agent at this time. It's like managers talk. You would think even. WWE put that well. I think for a while on the graphics was that won't be there that being said Joe you with one hundred. Seven points are brand new crew champion. We'll yeah what did you think about class champions man I like some of it. Some of it was just okay so. WWE consistently puts out decent pay per views in two two thousand nine hundred nineteen the only ones that aren't Saudi Arabia once weird by what people watch. There isn't a single of the ones that cost the most else to there isn't a single bad. WWe Pay per view in two thousand nine hundred nineteen. They're not amazing but again. WWE's consistently consistently good not great at spectacular good. I was a little disappointed at. Aj and Cedric on the pre show thought that deserved a little bit better. Yeah what would you watch out for. I don't know we'll see that you can we can always say always feel like it deserves something better but what what would have the probably the women's tag the Mandy Rosen Sonia Verse Bliss Nikki so so. WW hasn't featured the women's tag on anything until bliss and Nikki and the first real defense for them well. I mean they haven't they haven't put any steam into a so far. Why do that. Shit what the fuck and cruiserweight yeah I mean. How's that any more relevant than a cruiserweight title especially when there's two sets of women's tag belts two sets. There's there's only one set of women's roles. The smackdown aren't there. No I was just the one yeah still. I still don't think the way they've pushed it. Wouldn't they made regular the way they I mean they didn't put much value of. They took it off. Sasha and Bailey quick. The ICONEX never did anything with them. So why are they all of a sudden. You know mid the mid upper card material. I don't know because if if you don't start put put pushing it. It'll never hold value and that's kind of what they have. A problem with is we all set ourselves ourselves. The minute they started putting all these titles like somebody's GonNa get fucked in the ASS and they're gonNA lose a lot of importance and those women tag team belts were the major. You're one that lost everything. There isn't a sink us. Look at it and until Alexa and Nikki had it no one not did. Nobody cared heard about it. I'm sure you know people like Oh the Connex could've you know fellow Blah but they carry a long time but they never defended it even with page. Kyrie's sane an Oscar trying to fight for it. Nobody cared social media didn't care when they fucking went over in Japan to get that match no care and and nobody was really talking about it even when they tried to do something with it then when Alexa Nikki got all of a sudden you got some semblance semblance of conversation regarding the wwe women's tag team championship so therefore what you have to do is you have to stop that flame name. I think putting that on the pre show would have heard it now at the same time I wouldn't have minded watching seth and Braun on the pre show lose the raw tag team championships. I would have thought that would have better better better one because then of course it also extends how much longer they have to fight. I just don't think out of principle you can have your universal champion on the pre show but going back to the women's tag titles part part of the reason they don't get recognition though is they don't really have tagged vision. They just kind of other than like you got your your. Mandy rose and you're in Cairo Zane and whatever the other one's name is but did you put Manny Rosen Kyrie Mandy roads and so neil and then you have to say that though he said man you say so ah no and then you have Kyrie's sane and whatever the other one oh whatever they have the same chest all they have have the same accent. There's a difference but I mean you have like three or four established teams beyond that you're kind of just pairing people together not so there's no real competition over really cares about the belts period thousands knows my only bucket but and that's why. I'm saying I totally would have. I don't think it should the whole in the whole way. The the start of the tag belts happened with Baileigh Sasha having them. They're supposed to have like some prestigious st just run puts value to these belts but then that rug got completely pulled out from underneath them and the division itself so the the bells have been suffering ever since then really the you put him on the economics but they don't feature the iconic could feature connex actually a legitimate eighteen eighteen th but I haven't. I haven't even seen them since they lost the belts. COULDA had the MS and Shin Scan the pre show for swamp for for that I mean there wasn't a whole lot of build up to that big. I mean if it wasn't for the IC Velde would say yeah but that's the only then again they. They haven't put much importance on on that belt in recent MO- most recent history right cool shit they just started putting Shinsegei back on TV and he's been holding the boat for a while right there the problem with your class champions pay per view. I mean a lot of people forgot about that. fucking show dude like we fucking show it. We talk about it with fucking at Buffalo. Wild wings just like we're doing hell in the cell on October sixth but even we didn't talk much about it because even the buildup to some of these matches outside of your main title match and even the Randy Orton Kofi Kingston lost steam towards the end of it. It's it's a problem that. WW has with their championships so therefore if you're if you're always consistently not doing things certain championships a pay-per-view showcasing all of those championships is not going to be something that anybody gives a fuck about because it's something that they they haven't cared half of that about half of that stuff for months right like who cared about the cruiserweight title match. Probably nobody less you have the network. You know what I mean because that is the only a place that is featured we already talked about how the tag titles for the women aren't really featured. They just started featuring tag teams on both Ron smackdown down again which I think has a lot to do with the new regime taking over. The seat belt is back on team. You know what I mean like. There are making steps to correct these problems but they they should have pushed this pay per view they should have done like hell and then that pay per view and put more emphasis on all the championships going going into pay per view called classes still wonky tag team take team division wrestling. I mean the throw the belts on on bronze they take him off and and established team throw them on Brown and seth take him off Brandon. Seth and throw them on a team. That's only tagged together like two times ziglar and rude like flip flop and that's it's not even real tag team wrestling. That's not a real tag division but come October eleventh when they have their draft again. I think we'll see they're going to be exclusive to one brand or another. You're going to see more consistency all around going on. You don't know that I mean I'm hoping I'm like I'm already reading about pushback against Paul from Vince at that might be another reason why cedric in. Aj was on the pre show because I I've been reading a bunch of reports saying that Paul wants to put cedric in Vince just doesn't like him and now he wants to bury them and that's why he beat them bad two nights in ro any relegated the pre show. You know I'll be honest. I don't fucking pay attention to the church sheets because 'cause I don't give up. The jerseys are going to say certain things certain things are. GonNa come true there cheese. You're gonNA say other things. Other things are are are not. GonNa come true. I go by what I see and what I see right now Z. Y. You're talking about how they're putting finally putting some importance on these titles was it just now because it was class champions. Are we about to watch. These titles. Not just tags the belt. Is it going to start falling again to the wayside. I hope not but you have a solid point. See you completely. Don't go at it because we read we read reports from other sources on the show all the time so I mean those are technically be considered dirt sheets for lack of a better term sheets. It's usually because of something that hits on twitter big and then we'll go and it's then it becomes something big enough to talk about where we will go to a dirty to have a conversation Asian about I will melter is reporting on what I just said whether that holds anyway with you or not. I don't know it holds weight with some people and others doesn't hold a lot of it with a lot of people right now. because it's the same thing is how. I feel about bleacher report bleacher report used to be a very biased wrestling website and they got a w. We always on www worst fucking thing in the world to their bias them yeah and it's it's I'm i. I have zero problem checking out on some huge stories. I will say the Cedric Alexander thing. I didn't hear about until and we don't fuck no I'm. I'm all over social media so I didn't hear about that until you said it yeah was was added here about it either and I I don't read. I don't read a lot of the stuff I see but I see I'm in a bunch of differentiation group so on my timeline on facebook alone yeah it'll just it'll just come across yeah. Just whether I'm looking is as admiral whether I'm looking forward or not exactly but I haven't even seen that report. I've seen it a few times actually so Z. You went back. You rewatch clash of champions. What's what stood out to you as the big moment minus with Seth rollins. What was something that you will holy shit good for them or great fucking move? I mean honorable mention Braun strowman high risk yeah. That was fun to watch he's going to die. No Oh I did okay so I'm not used to going off the top rope without the ring imploding right so that was kind of weird they reinforced it beyond that I'm going to be completely honest with you man. Nothing really wild me or stuck out like there was good matches. Don't get me wrong there. There was nothing that completely stunk it up. There was nothing that stood out and was like ooh that was awesome. It was just a little bit better than a normal raw neck. The Luke Harper moment wasn't like wow but it was like oh very he got off the couch because anything I was reading before it kind of made it seem like he was benched yeah and done innocence so when he came out there and especially not wearing their gimmicky you know bludgeoned brothers fucking tights and all that crap and some pussy dazzled pancer Sir for frilly pants so that was kind of cool. I guess but other than that it was just kind of like all right. Nothing too crazy even realized realized herbert I I thought rowing hit him and then it went back and say Oh oh that's not rolling. That was lou carpet Adam. I thought that was a good surprise because I did. Nobody saw that coming. I did JOE JR no and I'm a big harper fan and I probably would have been a lot got more happy not knowing everything that's been going on with his contract situation him asking for his release and having that not being granted and not only not being granted they attacked attacked another six months onto his contract for the time he was injured and then just sat on the bench until right now but like like I said all that being said Ed Kinda sullied his return for me but it but it seems like they brought him back to put him in like a not a main event picture but a main storyline. I believe what I hit anything. Involving Roman reigns is considered some sort of main events. That's what we don't know how long the Roman Ruin Fuse GonNa go though I mean I'm not saying it's GonNa the long time it's looking like it's going to be Daniel Brian and Roman reigns versus Lou carpet or the bludgeoned brothers without their Hammers Eric Ron going over on Roman reigns with something. I thought needed to happen and I was very happy. Ww did that right but I would be happier. Had Ruin gone over clean. I mean granted. It's still clean because those deke match boy without help from another person. That's not GonNa Happen One. I don't yeah I agree with you. It's not going to happen to doesn't fucking matter. Even Roman reigns has been beaten by five dudes and still went out on top five five so let's not it doesn't fucking matter. I the amount of people involved in beating Roman reigns. I'll take something I don't care but it just matters that Roman reigns took a loss in the center of the ring. We've said for a while now that if you you want to get those Roman reigns booze Rohan re rains needs to look beatable. He needs to look like you're not making him. The undefeated always going to beyond top of stuff guy. You have to make it just like anybody else. When Austin got big it was because he was being beaten and then he started he austin lost titles. You know what I'm saying. Austin didn't fucking run a year with a belt. He didn't have a punk type run. He didn't have fucking Johnson type runs awesome went for a couple months and then fucking McMahon did something and it cost him the belt to which she then fought back for the he was always in the main event pitcher but he wasn't always winning the main of because the money was in Austin chasing the belt and it's an antibody chasing a belt you so you wanna make somebody look like it's a good run for the main event and nobody is bought into if they look perfect it so Roman reigns losing. I thought was a great move on. WWE's part Vince who never decided it doesn't matter bottom line is Roman reigns. Taking a loss was good. It was good for business best for business. If you really want to get this guy over you want to get back into your main event without the booze. Make people want him. They're they're good job that storyline was so long and drawn out and just speed bumped in hiccuped and like changed throughout the way like I totally wasn't even invested in it at at all by the time it reached its point. You know I'm different. I was yet was anything perfect no but there's been a fuck dude. Even the Kofi Kingston title went Wrestlemainia was not not perfect storyline into it but it was still great finish for it and stuff with this didn't take me out of it mainly because it also brought in the people that hadn't been showcased yet. Buddy Murphy was made to look great fun when they finally fit him into something something because they're not doing all the championships. You're going to see buddy. Murphy look good and he has going to have a following and now Eric Ruin looks last like a goon in more like an actual actual talent like an actual player in the game now instead of just some guy on the sidelines. which is the exact opposite? WW Did for Braun Strowman Lebron's stroman taking that loss. I don't care how many curb stops. I don't care how many finishes he took. The bottom line is Braun. STROWMAN has fought six times for a universal championship deanship and not want it at all loses all credibility like he's no longer a monster like I mean I like. You said it doesn't matter how many curb stomps took you still let them do. Five curve psalms or how many ever it was and you still lost when really in reality looking at the size difference bronze should a beach you in a minute and a half no matter who you are really right bronze good at throwing grappling hooks though it don't take that away from really big Cello Bronfman and Robin plumet make is there any salvage for bronze showman right now or does he need to just go away off TV for a couple of months yeah thinking thinking these needs a break. I mean the coolest part of that match was him jumping off the top rope like you said he's lost his last. It's that Ben that many six yeah I mean that's ring around four of them are against Brock Leser. Five Verganza guns listener figuring three half once again south than who were the other two. I think probably Roman reigns Romans overmatched. Oh that makes it okay yeah 'cause they had those back to leave and come back like a super. He'll just go for a while. Do you think coming Joe. Do you think I'm coming coming back. If he goes away and comes back. It's a super hill this and then you finally put a belt on them. Does that help if almost have to and does it have to be the universe about. Could it be the mid amid car title. No no you know to be your midge ever see the icy belt on Andrei or you know come come on other than the big show but they fucked up his entire but your your mid guard belts are more the way it used to be. Was your mid card belts. Were for your best worker and then you're heavyweight. Championship was for your biggest draw. That's why you never see Hogan. Have the belt Hogan wasn't your brassed worker but he was your biggest draw so we had the heavyweight title then you guys like Brett and the new generation who was your best worker but he became your biggest draw so oh going back to the question Joe if you pull Bron away for a couple of months and he comes back as a monster heel and he finally gets a belt the belt is his credibility somewhat restored if you and then if you give him what can you do to bring Braun strowman back from the grave buried him in so basically you just have to push him as a monster no more no more typical budget. He's gotTa be scary. He's gotTa be no one can fuck with them. I mean he's got to be unbeatable and even that and that might work for the masses but that wouldn't work for me. Honestly they've got to work for you. Probably nothing think I think that I can't I can't put the toothpaste back to the the problem with this wrong. He's tipped over too. Many ambulances enthrone too many grappling hooks and done too much tickle shit and tagged with too many cancer knicks. I'm done. I'm done for good. checked out but their biggest problem is they. They keep trying to push braun is like this lovable monster not only not a loveable monster but they're trying to legitimize his wrestling skills but he shouldn't be wrestling match. He should be in like a brawl or he hits a guy like six times and then it's over because he's huge like they need to have him going there and dominate they don't need him to go in there and have actual wrestling match with south rollins. They need to have him go in there and like just beat the living shit out of south rollins Nick. Is there anything that that salvages him for you for me just what I said and that wouldn't even make me be like okay bronze back cool and now he's a fucking asshole and no that's a last ditch effort you think I could see bronze an asshole and at least not now like me you took him off TV for a year and it doesn't help that he goes on like social media eighty and stuff and shows off his crooked trucker flat brimmed hat and his nipple ring and Shit like that completely takes himself out of character and takes any believability way from self on his own despite what the company does to him like you don't see undertaker on social media do Shit Kevin Owens played into she's supposed to use social social media to enhance your character not take away. I mean not fuses all platforms to be the super. Don't use social media to pull the curtain back. Use it to enhance enhance your character to put more into your storylines. The company's doing a too though with right I know but bathrooms Bethune the South Mbeki getting engaged in like Jackie they do that thing with the Charlotte and Andre to show them on vacation and shit like that like like the company as well as the superstars need to stop using social media to pull the curtain back in time I agree I think they can get away with some of it was some some of them but when you look at you had the white family and look at the rest of them now they're all still kind of somewhat in that same water even Bray Wyatt doesn't go on social media and pull the curtain back on himself the only one I'm no. I'm agreeing with you nick. I think some of them. It's okay with your faces yet. You can't a little bit not even that. Y- I don't mind the Charlotte Andrade stuff because the andrade stuff with Selena Vega is not there together. The Andrade Selena Vega is Lena is his manager and she's propelled in Charlotte and able heels it works okay understand but still there's again. I'm I to me. That's not the same as like a the monster none. When your gimmick is a when you are when you are a Gimmick Charlotte's not a gimmick right on okay so seth rollins Becky Lynch. They're not gimmicks fucking brown a gimmick undertaker a Gimmick Bray Wyatt a gimmick. These these are all people that need to abide by what they they need to stay in K. One hundred percent fully agree with that you need to be your gimmick if you're a gimmick jeff as an example and a few as Mister Nice Guy Fucking Shit on America's next Great Baker and then he's an asshole on TV yeah if he was super nice to people on social media. I mean that would be an M. JFK fatty because even in even when we were in the interview with him at star cast he would kind of like like ease up a little bit and you'd be like Oh my God he's showing an ISO- and then just like a snake bite in the fucking like the cute dog. You're depending that ends up biting your face off. I agree social. Media is either your best friend or your worst enemy when you're in the business of professional wrestling but you're also taking on a company now that uses social media of the the way it should be used for wrestling so they like. Awa uses it the pro and the proper channels whereas wwe if they're gonNA compete the long term even though the Juggernaut should learn how to play that game as well. I think currently the reason. Aws doing so well is mainly because there's no real gimmick in aws outside of the Lynch browse like the source outside unless you stop right dark orders John McCain on social media fuck here terrible so again when the only real gimmick you have is m j f who you can just Brian Corp.. The fuck out of you know back everything. It's it's fine because cody is your level. I the bucks is you're lovable tag team. Everyone Loves Kenny so on and so forth anything else with them in their instance. What about orange she's gone. She's actually no longer with. He's no longer with the company. They released her on all during for Hurley's. got some medical issues or something but orange cans auster smile she goes he. DDS So okay Orange Cassidy is a pure gimmick right love him but he's pure gimmick. His social media doesn't break and he's now eighty w your gimmicks are orange cassidy and the lube rose Lucia Sorus and fucking MJ consider I. I don't even consider MJ F A gimmick if Mj F- went to me he's just a Dick Dick and I mean those occur in real life all the time right but he did something that wasn't Dick Ish he would kind of be breaking character right yeah well just because he doesn't just because he doesn't show opposite what he shows to the public and social media doesn't mean that his act or or whatever he's doing is a gimmick. I think it kind of does though like if he if he stay if he stays in character form to me a gimmick is like the the undertaker like the repo man. That's a fucking game. I don't consider the attitude aired started blurring the Gimmick for sure Um but I M J. F is dude wearing a scarf using his real name. That's a fucking gimmick to me just because he's addict everybody all the time and doesn't stop being a Dick that it doesn't that Yamashina the rapper was that a gimmick free whereas edges John Cena trying to be a rapper because that would be kind of like the same thing that's his legal name and and he did fucking rap and he was doing only had an album. I don't really consider that a gimmick either. Okay Weird 'cause. I totally them yeah one hundred whatever's out of the when I say the way I think of Gimmick and any type I've heard it is these are things that your portraying your character to be twenty four seven but now how you are twenty four seven sure like put the best characters are not gimmicks third their own personalities with the the volume turned up and that's turned up would be Jimmy. No it's not dude. It's just an it's like an extension it an exaggeration of yourself mixed coal which and that's what I see in Nj yea even Austin said he's that was his gimmick it s to Austin calls everything a gimmick. I consider Austin a gimmick wrestler. Maybe when the ringmaster the ring no I I fully agree that. Every one of them is a gimmick because if it's not you personally one hundred percent of the time it's sure well then every wrestler in the history of professional wrestling Gimmick. Yes I agree I yeah I would too. I would agree with that. Wholeheartedly now granted again. I will also agree with you. Joe Dat themselves turned up a notch but and the reason why it's a gimmick it's it's because it's not what they do in their everyday. Life Austin doesn't go oh around again. I'm GonNa sit here much couch and I need a drink two beers at the same time boom fault although I wouldn't put he's pretty much still talks the exact same way time as has winnings in the ring. That's his vernacular. Oh Yeah for sure I mean show. Michael's is now bald that he's not a boy toy anymore or by. He's my heartbreak kid all right. Let's move on to the things that happened this week on raw and smackdown especially what happened to start off smackdown smackdown kicked off with the FDR Ko losing again Dan to the new day but after the match Broccoli Music Hits and Outcomes Brock and Paul Heyman mean to which Heyman says Brock wants to fight Kofi Kingston on October fourth the first ever episode of smackdown on Fox for the WWE. The championship coffee says I've said since I won this. I was fighting fighting champion so you're on Knicks Kofi done now you shaking in his boots. I don't like the fact that they did it the way they did. Did I would have preferred just me personally to see some kind of open challenge on October. Fourth show and here comes brock listener because I'd medically figure consume. Their Brock is going to win the championship so I'm just saying okay. Yep and there's brock all right now. I know what to expect. Leading to your first ever six men Man Helena cell match or six man tag match. Joe Is is Kofi done yeah probably He. He probably had a longer run than anyone WANNA. Give them credit for so yeah. I think I think so. I think mostly because that's what Fox wants they want. Brock talks about that one brock had the briefcase. They were saying he was going to cash in on the first night but everyone's like. Oh to me. That would have been more excited but this is the reason you didn't need the briefcase on Brock in the first place all broadcast do show up and say I WANNA title but they're gonNA gotta give him time. I thought they should've kept the briefcase brock longer actually because that was actually pretty fun. I'm in full agreement with you that I feel like brought coming out and demanding. This match negated the reason. You put the money in the bank on him. I'm that was my very first thought when he came up. I'm I have no problem with him cashing into introduce Saudi Arabia I'm really upset that it was used just for the Saudi match you know it's a was weird seeing heyman on smackdown. Let's eastern on my thinking something wrong. No it was it was after one before summer slam cassette one at back at Somerset so what was the pay per views voice yeah yeah extreme rules. Corbin and Becky and then after that match brought came out and yes exactly yes so but again if brock did not do that and he did use it to cash in for the first episode of smackdown would have held more weight room. Yeah I at the same time. I'm okay with the fact that Seth lost that. Belt Stephanie's lose lose the belt. That was a pouring fucking title run. I think co Visa Boring fucking title run right now you know I thought he should have brought the Crou-. I mean the crowd disagrees with you because so you've got the crowd behind fucking pumped up. Austin left and right and he still lost. Oh no no. I'm just I'm just saying Koufi is still like seth is kind of fizzled sold out like everyone's kind of bored with whereas Kofi you were kind of bored with Kofi but fans and the kids still no I okay. I want to stay in that mid pitcher. I think he deserves it. I think he's great in it but when the story line is going to be focused on this long title run I think some of the best title the title main event titles were when you had those titles go on somebody for two or three months right and then they drop it and and they get it back. You know what I'm saying at some point here too if he holds it long enough he's GonNa have to turn he'll just so they can write new stories right and I kind of wish you would have dropped the two months ago or even yet. No fuck that two months ago I wish he would have drafted two months ago Randy Orton and then beat Randy Orton at clashes champions to finally beat the demon that was a lingering for ten years only the den and have vowed blocking blessing coordinate on slot now with the way you just described that then I would thing okay. Maybe Kofi is going to be brock right now. I'm thinking no way I'm like he's already. He's held the title sounds Wrestlemainia this this is it this under the road and whereas if he would have dropped it to Orton and won it back from Orton that I'm like Oh. He just be ready now. He's going to face brock listener faulk right uh-huh you just said what you said was then it plays into the route of now in yeah and so therefore there's more intrigued. There's more interest in it. Many said he's done via the Fox route and minorities what what has marriage or even make sense in messages if Kofi drops it to brock listener on the first ever episode of smackdown on Fox. Does it back anytime soon Z. Okay so after watching the six man tag match before Leshner came out. My first thought was oh all coffee is not going to defend the title at Hell Sal. It's just going to be these six in the cage. You know which kind of put an end to that fusion move on then listener it comes out. I think he's GONNA lose. Obviously we all think is going to lose it back. Maybe rumble. I mean I mean the thing is if you lose it if he loses to Brac on that first episode on Fox. I don't see him beating brock for the belt so I think either fired the draft because it'd be the following week the the fourth and the eleventh you might split up the new day now. Kofi goes to raw and can fight seth which would be a good match up Tom for the universal championship but if you do keep around I don't I don't see him taking the wwe championship off of Brock Leser if if brock beats him for it. I don't see him getting it back. I could see a big e beating back listener. I just don't see Kofi. Doing Joe Joe. You're asking if I if you get back soon if he loses it. No I don't do you think he's done as well like when I say what I was saying earlier. I meant done as in as your. WWe champion Oh period yes. That's a tough question yeah. I don't I mean this. This run wasn't even supposed to have it in the first place it just kind of happened. you know by happenstance and then it was a good feel good moment at wrestlemainia unless some extenuating circumstances like that come across the. I don't see Kofi whole the title again I think this is kind of a one off for him and you made it kid missile six-month around though yeah I are Cetera yeah. That's probably a long run than anyone would have thought that he would have has seven months. A lot of us. Were thinking he would hold the summertime. I mean when he first took it. That's what we were talking about. I personally still feel it's fifty fifty and the only reason I feel it's fifty fifty on him. Retaining raining on smackdown is because you gotta pull Paul Away from Brock. You're not putting Paulin bowl shows this could finally finally be that break in that in that relationship Paul turning on him and then obviously leaving leaving going into raw and then only for the draft to happen and brought to go to raw now. I I thought that too because they've kind of and I don't know if they're purposely herbison doing it or they're just happenstance but the telling Paul get in the ring now like you know like stuff like that so so they are kind of planting seeds whether they're meaning to or not they're still planting seeds for came into turn but they've also teased it. So many times uh-huh well brock's contract has been in limbo limbo past couple of years. I mean I would like to see I would like see Brock without Paul can't even imagine that honestly. I don't see why Paul can't do you know his a a duty seen running the show and then just just be a performer on Friday. He's an on air talent on on Friday. Yeah the man behind the scenes on Monday. The McMahon's have been doing that for you and Paul wants to do that schedule unless he just wants to stick to one or the other other but if you pull Paul if you break them up right and then they do the draft is it pollen Eric Bischoff drafting there your heads of creative you would yeah so nice because when they had eric on the paper he was like Oh. I'll come join us over at smackdown so for sure. It's going to be Bischoff then you gotta think if Paul Causes Brock 'cause brock that title he's not fucking drafted into raw but if he doesn't in cost them the title Braxton number on traffic it's very now the main title comes back to and the universal turns Blue Yeah or if Eric somehow universal title gets the first pick in a just you know snipes brock from Paul Right off the bat you gotta assume Breathalyzer is going to be top two young especially for if if Paul and Brock are the heads of you've you know Ron smackdown respectively and they're drafting against each other and so wouldn't that just be a kick in the balls from Eric Paul Storyline unwisely took your boy brock right off the bat. What do you think about that. Paul could be their break-up but I don't know if that plays a storyline wise it does at least for the draft but understood but to have something continue with it because even still outside side of this draft and because we know that their heads creative. It's been said they're not gonNA be on TV. I thought Paul is GonNa. I read the Paul is going to do that and still continues role on TV with brock's advocate. That's I mean that's what he has been renewed and then even then it could simply playing indicate fake like there's still i. I think that there's still intrigue in Kofi retaining because of that be and that's the only reason I cacique Kofi retaining is the all the entry comes from no one thinks he's going to retain so if he does people be shocked right but now have they have they. They said what they're doing with the champions. Though like other champions GonNa stay exclusive are the champions is GonNa be the jump brands like I don't no no. They said that everything is exclusive to where it is all right but the only thing that would that doesn't make sense and that is your women's tag team champions of what do you mean everything is exclusive to where like the brands like their raw. Champions can't be drafted then yeah. I would assume that that's that's weird. No I thought they're having a draft and if you're drafted your exclusive to that brand. I don't know if that means that champions can't be drafted. I just I just can't seth can't go to smackdown because the bell thread. That's that was my thought I do that. Versus the balloon reversal in blue meany will be the inaugural champion should be Blue Teesta yeah but I mean if they are exclusive exclusive to each brand because that's what they said like. There's no more there's there's no more Geico God no more wild card yet will year on your brand yes but they didn't specify if that still carried for like your your main championship maybe you have like the US belt on one and the other but you're to champions can go back and forth like I. I haven't events seen the parameters for this. I just know I'm barely even knew there was going to be a draft. They mentioned it on Monday and I'm like one the fuck this come up. Oh the yeah this came up like a week and a half in the wild card. Rule is no more right yeah eighty six completely so you'll stop seeing people on both shows exactly they'll be exclusive to whatever brand they are drafted to from my understanding of what is going to happen on the eleventh yet where drafted that's where the fuck you stay so there's a lot of fucking variables right and we'll honest- honestly they're already doing it. It's coming off that with Foxman. WWe's the BLU brand is your number one show now and we'll be because Fox's demanding them have certain stars which Fox's also giving them network television and billions of dollars but you're you turn on channel. Two you can you got. WWe On Channel Two do right isn't gentlemen. You don't even need cable to get smackdown now. It's literally you get. You can buy that fucking. Hd Antenna for thirty five dollars at best buy almost had radio shack. They're out of business. You could buy that thirty dollar antenna and you get. WWe smack down so it doesn't fucking matter how long USA has had Monday night raw and why that's how wow that's the flagship show it's not reaching as many people as smackdown his so the majority of things that are going to lead off will lead off with smackdown now well. It'll still be a battle the ratings to see you who's the bigger show and let's face it. Not as Peop- I mean more people are going to be going out on Friday nights and not watching wrestling as they would be on Mondays. It's a it's not a good night to have any show really if you're a TV show I'll be honest. I don't think when you have the show really matters much anymore just for the simple fact of DVR's for the line. I guess for the the live live ratings not the what do they call the other three read up to three days after there's another term for Dono. There's I know what you're referring to. Don't know what the yeah. There's there's a way they log and there's another term for it but I guess for the live ratings. It's it's not a good slot to have TV show. I I just I I feel like you're about to see a lot more emphasis thrown toward smackdown than you then. WWE has even tried to throw its way since the first Branson transplant when Paul Heyman's running smack down and making it better than raw that being said speaking of raw we got rock rock kicked off with Seth rollins coming out announcing that he's taking on the fiend Bray Wyatt inside Helena sell in three weeks and then there was also a women's rally women's title match now for inside Helena cell sites. I want to focus on the universal championship match Joe. We just talked about how Braun was made to look foolish fighting for it six times and losing six times yes. Bray Wyatt has been a WWe WWe champion has held the top title in the company but with all of this flare all of this fanfare the trying to aura that you have with the fiend right now now how you're you you get it. We know that you are like fuck over this shit stupid but at the same time time you've been kind of in on the fee not like sold as this is going to be the greatest fucking thing in the world but he doesn't win at Helena cell doesn't doesn't matter how he doesn't win. He doesn't win hell in the cell. Did you just shoot that character in the head. No I don't think so. I don't think it's as much I mean obviously no pun intended with. Aws Wins and losses matter but I think with that character that character can lose but as long as he's still demented psychotic doc extremely scary and he's constantly tormenting people he'll still hold value but main event value yeah because he always the what effector with him especially the way they've been threatening him through the shows lately like he could just come out like nobody nobody safe when when when the fiend is around you know what I mean so you can have that element whether he wins or loses neck. Do you feel the character is shot in the head shot dead if he does not win the the Universal Universal Championship. No I would agree with Joe. I I think that you know if you had him submit to Seth Ron's on some level and it Kinda makes him look weak. I think think that factor that plays into it but I don't think that that's I don't see the fiend submitting anybody right so that would be the only way and and again like he just said. I don't think that's going to happen not just he's so bad ass but he like he's so crazy that maybe like pain. Just doesn't register. He would think you would find it funny or something right so with that. I I don't think you can. I don't think he'll lose steam. You're not shooting him in the head even if he loses stick to Sakhalin one-two-three and we move on from there. He's going to be around for a long time and the way that they're implementing him. In these shows is and it's kind of like like Novacaine. They're not cramming down your throat but it slow and steady and I don't think that they're going to do wrong with him by any that means right now. I'm the exact opposite figures I feel like the with this push with this momentum that he he has the problem with him. Losing is then you piss fans off again and the fans want him where he is. The fans want to see him. Get that bell and if you do that again if you take it away from everything that I it just brings up bad memories. Bray Wyatt was everyone unwanted bray way back in the day they wanted him against undertaker to beat the streak and he didn't and they wanted him against John Cena to beat the belt to take title and he didn't and it's just so much more bad memories that you bring out that if he does not win the Universal Championship at Helena Sell I think you shot Bray Wyatt enhances the character not the fucking gimmick. I think you just shot your wrestler. In the head and nobody is going to believe you will ever give him. I any type type of real momentum because while he did win the wwe championship it was kind of a fucking short short forgettable lackluster run right and you only know he did it because they talk about that he wanted you know you don't. I beat Randy Orton for it. That's what I'm saying. It was like very short run meaningless you so you literally have to go. How did he win. How did he lose it. This is something that is hot. Super Hot with the fans and if you kill that if you don't give him the win outside of him forcing himself not to win as in he just leaves the cage instead of taking making us do some sort of supernatural thing even that no there's no way he can lose this match a hell on the cell. He has to become the universal championship otherwise I think you alienate enough of the fan base that you just hurt the gimmick. I think he will I'd. I'd still don't think it would kill him but he never find no. What this company Dude. You never know aw especially with what you're you're taking on a company that is talking about being for the fans and you're taking the hottest thing. The fans have Right now away from them the fucking I pay per view after their debut show you kind of I feel like you just lost everything you built with that moving on Becky and Sasha banks inside Helena. Sell Sasha says cut a promo. Oh saying Becky I want you at Helen. Sell for the raw women's Championship Becky then come back and cut a promo saying. I don't WANNA face. You Hell in the cell. I WANNA destroy you inside. Hell in a cell in Sasha's Ben in the Helena. Sell Matching Charlotte. Flare wants got destroyed yeah. Is this ashes redemptions Z. Yell thing it is I mean they. The issue was her not not being in the spotlight was her issue to make a long story short. I think this is it because just like Kofi Kofi. I think it's time that back you loses the belt mad saying she has to lose it for longtime but I think she eventually Ashley has to drop it because even her even her run is getting a little boring so if you give her a new arch nemesis that isn't Charlotte flare then you have something to go with for another six months I think becky's dropping quickly and Becky's getting drafted to smackdown in Fighting Bailey for that title and Charlotte's moving to raw with this draft. I think that you pull her out of it. That's a if you're not gonNA draft. Champions and champions are going to be stuck to where they are and you're GONNA hold. Let's just because again we're speculating but if the speculation comes up your this brand's champion you're staying on that brand. You're not leaving if Sasha wins at Helena Cell and then the next Friday is the draft starring. Shashi your raw champion. If you're not draft champions back he can go to smackdown hell every fucking smackdown fucking promo had he's nick with Nobel with Fox. Yeah you know we were talking about that last week so becky they wanted brock. They wanted the undertaker they they. They had list of demands of they wanted. Roman reigns like Roman German rain probably GONNA be on smackdown because they because that's what Fox wants but at what point does like USA you get a say in who they get or do they not do they don't do they. Just get the leftovers. I and what's left of raw. It's what I was what I was saying when you stepped away that's fine smack that Donald Saving hard smackdown is your number one brand now smackdown your network television snag which has got to be driving. Vince insane no not for the money's making now for the Stock Foot Still Roz baby and he's always made it known that even when smackdown was beating them in the ratings Russia's still his number. One show doesn't change is gone now now that fucking. HDA ANTENNA GETS gives you smack ember Friday night raw and Monday nights the Friday night smackdown. GonNa turn red. All of a sudden can't can't can't have this buying range explorer. I do like the Bray Wyatt promos with the Little Devil McMahon and you just feed some money and he goes great it did but I'm making all this money alright so maximised is it finally is time. I think it kind of goes back to what you're talking about with. Bray and shooting somebody in the head thank you would shoot. Sasha had if you had all this build up her coming back and right near blue fucking head in that fucking wig man just so she if she does win the title then you go into you know her are being on Rodney. She GonNa lose it again because again. She's never defended this title that she's ever had once. She's what had four championships never defended at once so yeah. I think it's time to put her in that is that is that true. Yes successfully. She's never successfully defended all yeah okay. I'd I thought he doesn't she's ever had. She's never successfully independent champion. I know that nobody I it made it sound like she had forfeit the title but yeah. I think she's got to go over. When the title otherwise bench does she have to die or her read really dumb with Blue Hair Bell now look man bloods and crips making Purple Purple. Give the cruiserweight title. Joe Is Sir. Does the ROB belt lose relevance. If becky just goes to smackdown and never tries to fight for it again at least within these first couple of months or is Sasha strong enough to carry and keep it relevant to where becky had it a month ago and then three months before before that you're saying if if becky loses it to Sasha and then goes to smackdown and then doesn't get a rematch before she goes to smackdown does Robert Loser Relevance. Is that what you're saying. Yeah No. I don't think so well I mean I guess it depends on what they allow. Sasha to do with it or what Sasha does with it but I don't think that's just a a death sentence in its own. Oh I'm not saying de Sense. I'm talking talking about like we all say that the title doesn't make the person the person makes the title right Sasha Has Star power to carry that title. Okay Yeah I would love to see it. I think Sasha does deserve to be given all the credibility I think she finally deserves to be given the ability to defend a championship at least fuck. I mean once man she. She's one of the top girls in that company. I think she's she's been there for a long time. She's done it. We've seen her in great matches over the two years. I don't know why they haven't booked her to defend her title successfully at least once. I'm not part of the writing team. I don't know that because they were booking King Charlotte to win it nine times there won't k. There you go but yeah I mean that being said she's still an established star stone established champion still establish top of the card women's division wrestler so I think as long as they don't get silly with it which we they can do right it is is that she can be a credible champion. It won't lose any clout or steam zero. I had a thought but I quickly realized my thought was because Becky's run has lost. Some seem some steam itself so awesome in in well you you know south has in her but that's another story for another day. Hurting Seth likes to come in the man her title Ron on has but the man likes to come in him. We all know who wears the pants in that family okay so it's not South Ron's by the way in case you're wondering it's not him speaking of pants in the family and this'll be our final topic before we sign off we gotta returning superstar on Monday night raw and he's the real father of Maria Canals Bruce. Have Mosca the married Russa uh-huh is apparently the father of Maria Canellas baby to the point where even fucking Michael Colson not two seconds conspicuously asleep absent instance wife Lana Happy Rousseff is back but pissed putting where he is or do. Do we just kind of wish this would all go away zeal start with you. What do you mean by although I as far as we don't want anymore Maria Mike Canales any type of thing thing even if it brings Russa back I don't see it's one of those story lines that it's kind of entertaining entertaining to follow I mean it got a little ridiculous this rehire crashing entertaining a little bit yeah because you're like all right this is this is kind of funny are there clearly clearly burying Mike Canales but he's on TV so that really a burial but yes it. Is You know who who'd he who'd he fight he thought ricocheting first and then Reagan she beat him and then came out and destroyed him good God. I don't know man I I. If I don't see it I mean I won't be upset but if it continues I mean I don't mind it kind of like the undertaker's career. Yes I got a mind seeing them but if he doesn't ever my thought fought the undertaker though is it's not really over until he gets put away in a casket for the final time but anyways so with Maria and Michael. Show obviously she's ready to pop because she got significantly bigger since last. She's been on TV so I mean she after she has the kid. They'll oh come back. It'll look like reuss if that could be entertaining. They put the baby baby could be entertained please. You've have you just got your diaper. Now is like Lana GonNA fight a pregnant woman Joe. What do you think you wish the Maria. Might Cannella stories go away or are you happy that least got Russa back on TV. I mean I don't really care honestly I. I think it it makes them real great. She's she's been a million bucks throughout this whole thing but what it does for Mike Bennett's career yeah. He's fucked he. I don't see him having any any kind of credible future after this shit really silent rousset looked good and then I was Jack Yeah rose always intimidating figure but now he's like cotton big now. He's fucked. That's great. That's great that doesn't matter all that matters is how they book him and they have booked him like shit for years so so to me this just more. You're going to Zilly rousseff booking. That doesn't need to be done when they could have booked. This guy is a monster like they showed of or fucking time or kept the Russillo Day thing Roland because that was over as faulk but he got that going on his own so vince hated it so yeah but he gave it now. He gave Maria Callas rousseff night. Let's hello. I'm nick how you feel about this whole thing where you first okay blow your mind that it was Russa. That was the real father no I I wasn't expecting. I wasn't expecting that. I was just like Oh boy yeah. Okay I with joy. I don't really care. I mean if it's their cool. That's cool too. They don't take up too much time with it but everything they've ever done with. Reuss of they fucked up that does disappoint me a little bit because you like this does not feel like Paul Heyman booking to me. I'm sorry it just doesn't do original baby. Daddy storyline felt like Hayman but you are cutting down yeah yeah and then this but this is the gender Titus O'Neil fuck yeah. This sounds like this sounds like just typical. WW tickle reminded me of a food fight seen from a holiday yeah yeah you're exactly right. Yep some stupid barbecue or someone gets a play food. In the face yeah easy three holding the cups goes so doesn't matter to anybody could go away tomorrow and no one will ever be the fucking gruesome shave his moustache. Tomorrow that's for sure. y'All also needs to lay off the spray. Tan sounds really like bronze stash and then it's a gimmick but if you also though if you're going to bring him back like that like he's clearly in better shape he's going with the new shorter hair more mustache why not why not change the Gimmick in the music a little bit like give him a new new entrance of some sort just to make it feel different. I don't want to write for the baby. They could also do it down the line. I mean they do it next week. Let's be very honest the first thing to get the notoriety to get everyone recognizing it right away. The first thing you have to do is play his old fucking shit and we'll city will sorrow oh. I thought he was in Seinfield. What is the deal. This is Ara came out to Russell Street clothes. He went to annex t you cage eating not and now he's back or he went and showed up. I don't know if he's going to be in the next two U. K. competitor we'll. I have to find out but that's that's enough for us next week. 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WWE Creative Problems Continue

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WWE Creative Problems Continue

"If you don't know Sirius XM, then listen, up commercial free music, plus sports, comedy, talk and news. They have it all. And right now, you can get your first three months of Sirius XM outside the car for just one dollar. Go to siriusxm dot com slash busted to see offer details and to subscribe offer available to new series, XM streaming subscribers Sirius XM. No car required is the busted open odd cast, you can listen to the full show weekdays from nine AM to twelve PM eastern on Sirius XM bite nation channel one fifty six. Welcome to the busted open podcast. This is Dave Greco on today's episode WWE hall of Famer bully Ray. And I discussed this week's extinct, and we take an in depth look with one of the hottest topics in the industry right now, the WWE creative process annexed, the announced that when they're hottest feuds, shayna baiser, and he'll Shirai with take things to the next level in two weeks inside of a steel cage with this Gus. Why potential spoilers on social media are creating an issue for the brand? Plus, sits Jon Moxley interview with Chris Jericho drop last week. All anyone has been talking about is his frustrations with the WWE creative process. Now, Batista has weighed in on this issue coming off of his last run with the company. We'll tell you what he had to say and more right now on the bus at opened podcast. The oh sure I and get a challenge, Shane obeys. Ler. That annex t women's championship in two weeks in a steel cage, now it's funny bully, because I'm watching an t last night, and I'm a big fan of yoshahara. I saw as actually going to tweet about oh, and then I go to Twitter. And as that announcement is being made the taping of the cage match is taking place. So I you know, I go to hashtag annex t and everybody's tweeting about the finish of the cage match, and on my own by God. I mean you talk about the fleeting here. I am watching a story being played out, and first of all, this cage match is being taped. It's not gonna be next week. It's going to be two weeks from now. So now not only do I know that the story is being played out over the next two weeks. But I now know the finish of the match I mean, is there any solution to this because honestly bully, it's? Not as easy as saying, you know what while I'm watching annexed I'm not going to tweet. I'm gonna put my phone away. But when it's out there it's out there. I mean, this is really something that here in two thousand and nineteen could be a major problem. But Dave hasn't really been a problem for a long time. Remember when raw went live one night, and then tape, the following nights raw the same night following weeks raw and then you'd find out what the what the, the spoilers were on the internet. I mean this has been going on for a while. I think it's definitely. A lot more of a problem in two thousand nineteen with the speed of information with Twitter, just like you said last night, you all of a sudden you look down, and you're, you're getting the results right there. This happens with any tape shows I mean ring of honor, tape shows like months out and all the results are up. And by the time, you, you see it on your TV, you know, they, they've probably had another pay per view by then, you know, raw how to do it back in the day to save a buck. An XT probably has to do the same thing. They tape a bunch of shows. There's really no way around it. And honestly, the only way around it for the fan is to stay away from spoilers. But what makes this one even worse is even before moral made that announcement about the cage match. People are tweeting that the cage match was taking place now before moral, even has the opportunity to announce that a crowd that there's going to be a cage match usually. No, there's gonna be a gauge Matt's, because some of the. Things there'd be in tweet out. And it's the timing too. You're absolutely right. Bully. You know, sometimes with raw and we know, from when they're overseas day tape earlier in the day, and you have to stay away from social media ring of honor impact wrestling for the most part is taped. So you, you know, you, you have to find a way to kind of, you know, sift through all that stuff. But the crazy thing about annex t is, they do their tapings bully the same night that their show airs, which is really unique and is a pain in the ass. So as you're watching the show, maybe want to tweet about the show. If you go to the hashtag, annex t you have people who are at the tapings, especially now that they're doing a lot of tapings at house shows. Now, you're talking thousands of, of people instead of hundreds of people, it's a major problem for annexed, it, honestly, ruined my experience watching that show last night, it really row ended for you yet, did well, you get used to it because I don't think anything. Is going to change unless annexed was to go live every week? Don't necessarily see that happening. But I mean I'm not shocked. We've been dealing with taping situations for a long, long time, as you said modern day when WWE goes to England you got to stay away from it. So, yeah, they ruined the cage match for you last night. But that's just the way it's gonna go. Dave. So really no, I don't I don't think there's a solution. The solution go live every week. If you're live every week, you'll never had this problem is the fact that annex t is taped or ring of honor is taped impact wrestling is taped does that make you not wanna watch the show, knowing that there's a good opportunity that reading, dirt, she or just being on Twitter, every day. And you're gonna find out these spoilers and here's the thing. Like most of the time, when it's a dirt sheet, they'll say spoiler alert even sometimes tweets. But when you go to a hashtag for annex t and people are tweeting about the taping that's taking place, you know, for. For something that's going to be two weeks down the road. I'm wondering forget about if it's ruining the experience. But do you just stay away for like an annex t takeover? You could just watch takeover, not even watch the weekly show. And I'm just wondering if there's fans out there that don't watch the shows knowing that it's taped as opposed to being live. I don't know. I just what I do know is it is, as impossible as it's ever been to stay away from spoilers because you basically can't go on your phone or social media without coming across something. You basically have to leave your phone by its side, not pick it up. Not click on, you know, not click on social media, and I think clicking on social media has become the, you know, such enormous everyday. Wake up, you know wash your face brush your teeth check your Twitter. Yup. You're right. And that's just the way it goes. It's become the news. That's where we you know, back in the day, we used to wake up in the morning and go to work. And buy a newspaper and read the newspaper or you would wake up make breakfast, your children, and watch the news. Now people wake up and they omediate -ly turn on Twitter. Alex god. What he got it without, you know, who else has this issue stand up comedians, the comedy like they've been having these issues with people taping you know, sets that they're doing at some, you know, dingy club somewhere putting it on social media. And then these jokes that stand up comedians are working on in these clubs that try and get ready for their Netflix special or you know, for their HBO special or whatever their tore they're doing where they're gonna hit all the big arenas. The whole thing get spoiled online, because people film it in the clubs. So what they started doing is they created these, like almost like pouches that they'll put in the club. And when you come in, you sign an NDA that says, you can't talk about or tweet about, you know, the show where what you saw her any video and you put your phone in this pouch that seals. And the only people that can unlock it are the people. That work at the venue, after they show is over, how I never even heard, I wonder if they could do that, at, at an annex t taping but at WWE probably wants the social media. Interaction. I know what I mean. I it's a double. You're right. It's, it's a double edged sword because, you know, you're gonna get the spoilers out there. But yeah, you're right. I you know what? I noticed it to bully. I was I was at a baseball game this past weekend. And you know there's been a lot of controversy about foul balls. I understand why where people get injured from foul balls. When I noticed that there's foul balls and I was just watching, you know, back in the day, if you went to a Yankee game and there was a foul ball. Everybody would be trying to catch the foul. Boy, everyone's trying to grab the catch the foul people don't pay attention anymore. There's a foul ball. The people get if they're on their phones. Not even watching the game they're staring at their phone like you're right. The phone is become such a part of your life. I don't know if I it might sway people from not going to a taping of an annex t show if they know they gotta give up there. Phone for three hours. I mean, the cell phone problem is more than just a baseball game or a wrestling event. I mean you have people looking down at their cell phones. Whether driving in the left lane at sixty five seventy miles an hour. You know, I it's a huge problem. But you're right. You know, just people are looking out walk down the street. Listen, we're in New York City, you walk down the street near city. What does everybody do looking down? You used to look up to watch where you walking now everybody's looking down at their phones, getting back to the spoilers. You know you said that. You'd like the WWE wrestling companies, they actually like it, because they liked the social media interaction, and if it's going to be spoiled anyway, why not spoil it yourself. I remember when kiss started their end of the world tour this year, me, and velvet, or like we're staying off of social media where not gonna, you know, I don't want to know what the set list is. I don't know. I don't want to know what the stage looks like I want to be surprised and shocked when I get there, but then it's like this, this hundreds of different videos posted of what the set list is, and what the staging look like, and it's kiss releasing all the videos, so it's almost impossible for you. Not to see it. You know, and I have a big I'm a big problem with spoilers in the wrestling business like I have a major problem with it, and I guess, I've kind of made a compromise within myself like if a show is taped and. And an internet site wants to tell you Kate Hughes, the results from the show that was taped. Well, I guess you can really find that anywhere these days, it's when it's when, like internet internet site, go out of their way to truly spoil things for you like surprises, or people that are backstage. Those are the spoilers that I can't stand. And you know what bully, I think there's an audience and not just a small audience. I think there's a large audience that wants to know those spoilers. I think there are people that go to dirt sheets or or go on social media. Hey impact. Wrestling is having a taping. They wanna know what happened that those tapings because, in a lot of ways that saving, you know, saving time of having to watch the show. I don't know. You stopped and there's the problem. Going to save me the time of having to watch the show, would you ever would you ever twenty years ago, wanna save the time and not watch Monday night, raw course not? So then why would you wanna do it? Now, the whole idea is to watch the show because if one if more people were watching any one particular show shows wouldn't have the problems that they're having you take impact. For example, there. They're on a channel right now that basically nobody, nobody gets nobody knows about why have they been relegated to that station should it more people. Be watching their product. So that, that to me is a bad example, Dave because you want people to know. And this is this is what FOX is basically demanding of the WWE. Absolute must see appointment TV on Friday night. You have to be in front of your TV on Friday nights to watch smackdown. Because if you ain't watching it live. Five basically, you ain't watching it. Yeah, I this I think this is a fascinating discussion because it really hit home for me when I was watching an XT last night, because I do my best with impact wrestling with them L, W with ring Avante or just to completely stay away from spoilers. And for the most part, I've been able to do it. But last night while watching annex t it was like a punch right to the gut everything that I was watching didn't necessarily have to mean I had to watch it because I already knew what was going to take place, two weeks, down the road likely you're hearing cads, busted open, live, weekdays from nine AM to twelve PM eastern on Sirius XM fight nation channel one fifty six or on demand. The Sirius XM app now it's one thing for for me to come on the air and talk about creative and, and bully, obviously, you being a large part of the WWE for many years. But somebody who is just involved with the WWE sat down. A Ryan sat in a pro wrestling sheet. And that's Dave Batista. And obviously day petits had a big match at wrestlemainia thirty five with triple h returning to the WWE after having a main event match at wrestlemainia thirty with Randy, or in and Daniel Bryan, and he was asked about to create a process, and Alex Mets, our producer. I believe you have that, quote, from Petit STA yet. Dave said the following when asked about his issues with the creative process currently in the WW the creative process, I still don't get it was a nightmare to me the last time I was there, which was in twenty fourteen and it seems like it's become worst. They're just I feel like they don't have a clear vision, a long term vision. Everything is week to tweak, and it doesn't seem like they stick to a plan very much. I don't think that guys, I'm going to steal this from somebody, but Jericho pointed out something to me that makes complete sense. And he said that John CENA is the last guy. He's the last guy who's going to be over like he is. And it's because the performers now they're limited their hands are tied. They can't go to war, like we used to we used to go to war, and beat the crap out of each other, and earned a level respect from the people, and it was just like a diff-, and it was just like a different level of respect. It was a different level of getting over. We had more freedom. We could be more full of piss and vinegar, and we could be more on the edge and the guys are just not given that freedom anymore. Yeah. South miller. Yeah, it sounds like a lot of what you say week to week when we talk about the creative process with the WWE. It's exactly right. I yesterday I think we talked about how wrestling normally in the past was book in reverse. Now it's book week to week. Never used to be like that. Too many people not a clear cut vision. Seena lasted Mohicans. So Batista has been there for a while. Jericho's been there for a while. I was there for a while. You have three veterans all saying the same thing. Got it. We were in a court of law. We would we would basically be called expert witnesses. Yes. An hour. Testimony carries a lot of weight. Ha enter way joke. Let's break this down because I think that I think that quote. Is very telling and the first thing he said right at the beginning when he answered that question he said the creative process, and he said nightmare, and he was referring to two thousand fourteen bully think about it. I think creatively, as we are getting closer to wrestlemainia thirty was a lot better than the creative process that we see now in two thousand and nineteen and he was comparing, what was going on in two thousand fourteen as a nightmare. It's worse now five years later, then he talked about right now, and he talked about, not having a clear vision, not thinking long term, like you were saying they used to go in reverse not thinking long term when it comes to storylines as we always say bully on this show, not connecting the dots. No continuity. Why because Dave Batista said because they do everything week to week so something that they may have come up with weeks ago. They might throw it away side because they're booking is become week to week and then something that was a big topic on our show yesterday was about the lack of superstars, and he mentioned just like you always do. About John CENA, bully, and that he is like, as you said, the last the Mohegan, we're never going to get that superstar like John sina. Then he talked about the current roster and how they're limited and he brings up this keyword into comes time and time. Again, the key word is freedom, and how the wrestlers don't have the freedom. Now, you also mentioned getting over. I don't know if he meant he did he say the word get over. Can't get over. Can't get over to go. It's I've told you this story based on first hand accounts, attitude era, Dudley's, basically, do whatever the hell, you want Dudley's back in two thousand and fifty two I'm my account of the situation is one year after Dave was there. And what I went through. I can I can tell you that what Dave is saying is one thousand accurate. For years. I heard stories about how the guys in the Gaza WWE couldn't get over. And then I got back there. And I was like, wow, they've handcuffed everybody. Strictly what comes out of creative is what's done. And I don't think that that's ever the recipe for success as a wrestler. You're a creative artist. Nobody knows how to be you better than you know how to be you. So that should be a collaboration between said wrestler, and said creative member. That's the way it used to be you think people hand, you think people handed rocky a piece of paper rocky collaborated with Brian Goertz on everything. Collaborative effort between talent and a writer, Austin say in everything. Hey Hardee's Dudley's edgy Christian. A lot of say in what we did MC Foley lot of say in what he did they listened. Mobile listening. It's the way that they want it done. Now, they are breeding a generation of wrestlers, who are going to do what they are told. But why bully like I understand, like this is what they wanna do this is this is their benchmark now. But I think you would agree a big reason why the WWE is as big as it is globally is because of the things in the decades of the past. Why would you just completely change things like I'm wondering bully, and this may sound like a ridiculous question. How successful would raw and smackdown bay? If this was new, if this didn't have the history behind it, if it didn't have the memories of an or the necessity watch because it's kind of built into watch ROY every Monday if this was a new show would this be a show that people would want to watch, or is the success of this company, based on everything that's happened prior to them going with the way they do things now, I think history speaks for itself, you. Tell me when the company was cool and successful as compared to now is the is the company, cool right now know as a company successful right now, it is successful. Correct was. It's cool back then yes, was it successful back. It was both. So they're losing their coolness factor. They're losing their edgewise. Are they losing their edge because they don't have those mega stars anymore. This like I said, I always try to compare apples to apples, especially when it comes to the WWE what has worked in the past and what is not working now. And why? They want the letters W w e to be the reason why you come to a WWE event. They don't want you to come to the WWE event just to see Seth Rollins than set. This bigger than the company, they don't want you to come there just to see Becky Lynn's Becky is bigger than the company Roman Charlotte. Nobody will ever become bigger than the company again. Because if you become bigger than the company, you can say, no. Hey, rocky, you want to come back to this year's wrestlemainia? Nah, I'm not feeling creative. Vince? Thank you note. Thank you, John. We're going to Saudi Arabia wanna go. No. I don't like the political atmosphere there, I'm not gonna go, hey, Daniel Bryan. You come to south you coming to Jeddah. Well, Johnny going, I feel the same way he does. I ain't going Sammy. Nope. I ain't going Kevin Sammy's, my friend. If you don't wanna go. I don't wanna go. Hey, what the hell is going on here? Everybody saying, no. They don't want that. Do your higher ups wants you say. No. Dave. Now, of course, not exactly for the longest time. The boys have had dude, guys like X pocket row dog and triple h and Shawn Michaels. Kevin Nash and razor Ramon, all those guys. That's all they said was. No, that's how they got. So over. Squeaky wheels got the oil, they don't want any tweak wheels the more you know what they do the squeaky wheels. Now they changed them. Is this going to be let me ask you this? But the way things are going with the ratings and the subscriptions that network. Do you think this will change because I think a lot of fans would say that this isn't working the way. I mean, if Becky Lynn's never got that punch in the face from nyah Jax only changed the way, we looked at that main event at wrestlemania thirty five Dave WWE answers to its investors, and to its advertisers. The only thing that's gonna make things change is significant drops in stock reported quarterly losses in dividends network, subscription's going down ratings going down and competition. We've talked about the competition that w has currently brought to the table, how has eighty w been able to compete with the WWE so far financially. WW. We wanted Kenny omega. Kenny went to eighty w WWE wanted the bucks. The buck's went to eighty w they wanted hangman page hangman went to e w they're losing the financial battle right now to talent. Dean wouldn't even look at his contract, and I bet you there was a hell of a lot of money. I bet you it was a really big number, Dave guaranteed seventy seven figures. If he wasn't making seven figures ready. They're, they're, they're, they're losing little battles right now cracks in the wall, but battles are going to turn into big battles. But let me ask you this, are they really losing those battles. Because you say, all right. You know, dean Ambrose didn't want to sign didn't even look at the contract. He's like I'm outta here. You know, they want to Kenny omega, but you know what? Kenny O make is like it doesn't. It's not a good fit for me. I'm going with a e w the, the bucks all down line. But the way that the WWE is doing business right now today, even care about that. I mean my God, if they had Kenny omega in the WWE, they call him the cleaner because you have a mop with them in or squeegee have matter about what talent you miss out on is if when they come to your company, you're going to change him. Anyway. But here have every right to change talent into what they wanna do. They never changed AJ styles. They would be foolish to change a guy like Kenny omega, they'd be foolish to change guys like the bucks. And I guarantee you, if they ever got it too heavy no negotiations. Those changes would never be made the same way we told WWE you can't make any Dudley's without without me and Yvonne's consent otherwise it would have been nine hundred dollars. Let's just make him a deadly Powell. Put them stupid classes on them. There's two sides to the story. You're right. The WWE is losing many battles right now. I mean, come on, man who doesn't even look at their contract, you know, it's going to be a monster number, and you don't even look at it old school, recipes retell, Dini's, nuts, guys, like Kevin and Scott and razor, whatever they'd be like, how come you didn't look at you contract that would have been a perfect negotiating tool against the w because if WWE offered you a million, you have turned around to eighty w and said, hey, man, I'm getting a millionaire, I need to million from you. He didn't even wanna look at it. That's how bad he wanted out. He didn't even want to be tempted. That's how badly wanted out, it's almost like a person who's recovering from alcoholism, who doesn't wanna drive past a bar just because they don't want the temptation, they'll go around the block and out of the way. When have you ever heard of a talent, not even looking at a W w e contract because they wanted out. So bad never heard of it before dean, Ambrose, he go, that's telling shit right there. Dave, if he don't know series XM, then listen, up commercial free music, plus sports, comedy, talk and news. They had it all a lot of people think you need a car to enjoy Sirius XM. But you don't you can listen outside the car right now. You can get your first three months of Sirius XM outside the car for just one dollar. Just go to siriusxm dot com slash busted to see offer details and to subscribe, you can listen on your phone at home and online that Sirius XM dot com slash busted. Offer available to new series XM streaming subscribers siriusxm no car required. They're called WWE superstars. But how many superstars are they're really in the WWE right now? And are we ever going to get that face of the franchise? It's also a question that was brought up to John CENA recently at book, con two thousand nineteen that's. Right. Book on two thousand and nineteen where John CENA was on a panel. And he was promoting his children's book, elbow, grease. And he was asked about who's the next face of the WWE. I think the dynamic of the program is changing for the longest time. I think if you consider WWE aband-, there's been one front person of the band, I think that dynamic is changing, and it's because the audience is too diverse, I think older, males or watching, it younger kids are watching females or watching it, the audience is so diverse. So with the diverse on it's tough to universally, please someone. In the eighties, you had a family oriented program in hoagie, was the front man in the nineties, you had eighteen to thirty five year old males income? Steve Austin, and Dwayne Johnson because they hit right down that wheelhouse. And then there was me, but even myself, as you know, went through a polarizing stage where half the audience likes you and half the audience doesn't. So I don't think. There's a universal figure that will lead the company forward, I think as the company grows and especially expense globally. You're going to have like a super friends of the WWE, which is like people who are essentially fighting for equal share of popularity. I think the, the band, essentially will now have ten lead singers of every different race creed color, sex S necessity. So I believe that I was kind of the last of, of that, and I think that the landscape has changed so much that it's more of a group effort rather than individual effort. What do you think of John CENA's super friends, as far as the frontman, or I guess, ten front men, if you will the band when he comes to? Hey, the product is so diverse right now it's almost impossible to have one leader of the band first things. First, I've been saying Johnson is the last for how long now Dave a quite some time for a now. And now we're just hearing him admitting that he's the last, yes. Just one. Just one of this is not about. Hey, I told you so but I'm just saying if a guy that's been around his giving you information based on firsthand experience. It's probably true. John is the last as far as the super friends common. That's what I said earlier about Seth Becky Charlotte and Roman. They're your super friends. I don't think you need any more than that, too. Strong men to strong women, and then everybody else falls into place. He talks about how the audience is more diverse, now, I don't know about that, Dave. When has the WWE audience, not been diverse? I will say this. There's been eras where they probably had more of a popularity with a certain age group. But I think it's always for the most part appeal to every age group. If that makes sense like, like in the mid eighties, I would say, the WWF was geared towards a younger generation kids, and there was a lot of kids watching. But I don't think that meant that everybody stopped watching when it comes to the attitude era was more geared towards eighteen to thirty five year olds. Absolutely. But I still think other age groups watch if that makes sense. Yeah. So it's I think it's always been diverse of religion of color. Absolutely. It's always been diverse. Yes, it's always been diverse. Maybe they don't want to hook their hook the wagon up to a one specific color. Is that is that what it means? Why think a one percent specific gender? It's like one of the reasons rocky works, so, well, you know, especially when it came to color will Rockies white Rockies black Rockies Samoan, rocky was a hodgepodge of many different things, and everybody could relate to him as far as ethnic background. Correct. Yeah. But I think I let's what's use, your example here. Let's use the attitude era. Okay. Stone cold was extremely over a the attitude era. So is the rock. So as leader like I think you're, I think you're that's super friends comments. I think it could relate that to any era. But usually, there's going to be one, one kind of leader of the pack, so to speak. So you have lead you have stone cold Steve Austin you have the rock. Yeah. Have the Dudley's Yavne Matt and Jeff? But then it's going to be one above everybody else. I think you could say that about the eighties with HOGAN HOGAN was on top. He was your champion he was. But there was other people that the fans were attracted to it just all it was just all ogan. I'm looking HOGAN more as a super friends character. Hogan was a superhero back in the day, but he still had Randy savage. You still had Jimmy snook. He's dogged, Ronnie piper super heroes. Big fan of the hall of the hall of Justice hall Justice and the legion of doom. Yes. With Austin Austin had something that a lot of people today don't necessarily have in. That's related -bility wrestling today is all about relate ability. Who did not want to drink a beer and flip off their boss? Everybody wanted to do that everybody, and that's why Austin was so over today. It's about relate ability, and I think it's especially like different body types, and, you know. Characters when you look like a guy like Kevin one it's not a traditional body type. Right. You'd say that there are fans who can look at Kevin O engine relate to him and go, hey, man, I don't exactly have muscles or apps. But if Kevin can do it. I can do it. You know, you look like a smaller guy like Daniel Bryan. Hey, I'm not a big dude. Daniel Bryan's on a big dude. But he became the world heavyweight champion if he could do what I could do it. It's all about that. Relate ability factor who has that relate ability factor? Right now. I can't think of anybody on the roster right now. I mean, it's hard to find that same relate ability factor. Because if it's not about a coolness factor. It's about a related -bility factor. So who is the cool kid or the relatable kid in the WWE, I'm sure we could sit here, and we can go down the roster and say this person is either cool or relatable. But not as cool or as relatable as the people in the past because they're not being pushed like that. I mean I I'm not blaming the guys. I mean, that's the thing like I mean, the attitude era, like you could say that. All right. Stone cold Steve Austin was the face of the attitude air. But was he really when you have the rock you have Mick Foley, yet, the undertaker for crying out loud feed has been all of them? All right. Was bigger than all okay? And this and you could say that about HOGAN in the mid eighties to correct. All right. Because there was so cold as who attracted most of the fans. And like you said was that personnel? That you were attracted to in that relate ability factor. We could do that. Now. I mean you, I mean, you would think that you want to you? Call them superstars for crying out loud, his they're not called pro wrestlers in the WWE. They're called superstars who on the roster is a superstar. They actually Dave, I always go back to these moments. And I talked yesterday and they spoke a little bit today about those Austin, esque moments moments that take people to the next level, propel them into the stratosphere they've given them to branche Stroman. Why haven't they given them to set the Rollins? Why haven't they given them to Becky Lynch? They're not the same moments that these stars from the pass of gotten Vinci's dumped a gazillion dollars into a Braun pushing over dump trucks, and limos, and this, and that, that's all of the same thing, the same stunts they used to do with Steve. They were trying to propel this guy into the next stratosphere anyway, at an but I'm sorry you said the injury. But you put all that time and effort in, you know, he's in, he's in the battle Royal in the pre show, wrestlemainia thirty five my point is they're trying with Braun. Why aren't they trying with these others? I haven't seen. I don't know when I've the most memorable moment for me with Seth Rawlins's his cashing in of the briefcase. Yeah. That's what comes to mind. Not him beating Brock this year. The cashing in of the briefcase to win the championship. That was Seth moment to me. I want some more. Seth moments I want Seth I want Seth to get the Steve push. Well, I mean judging from the comments from Johnston. I don't know if anybody's ever gonna get the stone cold Steve Austin push. Well, that that's what I'd like to see for the people who are deserving of it, and who have earned it. I wanna see the Steve rock push for, for, for Seth and for Becky and for all of these people who are there, they're right there. They're already there at the top of the mountain, if they can't, they need that extra little boost to touch the tippy top get behind him. Give him that shove. Give him the rub anyway. You possibly can you want to bring in a Goldberg good? Have Seth beat Goldberg. I'm spit ball. No, no. I listen. I think we, we are because we're trying to figure something out where it's when you have a when you have Johnson Assane there's no more faces of the franchise. It's all super friends, and you have Dave Batista, who's had his last baths, match two months ago. Is this like somebody who retired twenty five years ago is a guy who is just in wrestlemainia, thirty five saying that the creative process is a nightmare and it's getting worse. There's no next level in the WWE the top people in the WWE right now have nothing to work up to, there's no next level. There's no stars back in the day stores had mega stars to work up to now. Every store has at their plateau, who is Charlotte flare going to work with to make her better. Nobody. There's nobody better than her. If you want Charlotte flair to get better in the ring ever start working with men. Obviously, it's not going to happen. I'm just saying who is Seth going to work with to be better. You know, he's got to get set in the ring with Randy Randy's the only one there that can make any of these guys better. Randy can make Seth better. Randy can make. Roman better AJ can make people better. But who's gonna he'll make them better in the they'll make them better in the ring, as far as wrestlers concerned. But when it comes to character and personality and knows nothing to bounce off of. It's, it's tough gave when I was in. I'm just real quick. When I was in TNA, and I got to do with the angle with HOGAN and sting. Yup. I was salivating. You know why I got to be better? I got to be in the ring with guys that were better than me, bigger personality, bigger characters, I finally had something to work back up to if I'm a top dog and WWE. I don't know who I have to look up to work up to maybe I have to beg Vince to get into an angled with me. Thanks. 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Wwe backstage last night. Mark Henry has been built to do this. This is what he does. A great analyst on Deputy Vecsey also us right and also we get into what took place on raw from Monday. Randy Your Matt Hardy and Chenab as Ler and Becky Lynn. I feel this is Deputies WAY TO SAY GOODBYE. Thank you for your services and hopefully we see you seen squeeze out so we get into diva on divas. Our very own gabby gets into. What was the hottest angle on smackdown? That's Otis and Mandy and doffs and she covered it in only the way she does with style and Finesse. Gabby style all that right now on the busted open. Speaking of last night was so cool and watching impact wrestling got to see you in the main event. Elva Promo and then I turn on. Wwe BACKSTAGE AND MARK. Henry was a guest on wwe backstage and he talked a lot about Keith. Le- let's listen. Courtesy of F S One Mark Henry. Talking about keithly speaking with keithly on. Wwe backstage last night. Every podcast every radio show. I've talked about how I feel like. You are transcending the business as relates to the way big guys are portrayed in it and how does it feel to be able to bring back the big guy match and I call it a big Guy Magic? Because there's no big guys leapfrogging on Dragon plunger of the top in the ring you name it you get it done like how does it feel to be bringing that back honestly man? I think before all of that for me. It's it's such an enormous thing to just have someone such as yourself even speak my name in such a manner because of who you are and what you've done allows me a platform than an opportunity to percents. What Keith Lee is and the fact that you even think that I'm bringing back this big Guy Magic as a special experience here that come out of your mouth is something that I could have. Never fathomed before this moment. So it's special man. I don't know how you have the only You earned that. That's something that is has come to you because of the work that you put in. I'm not saying that because I'm trying to big you up or because you're holding the title right now. I'm saying that because it's true good job by Mark Henry on. Wwe backstage last night. Tommy you know a fabulous job by Mark Henry. Thank you to Fox and F S One forgiving. A nice little graphic. This bottom graphic. Did you see it said host of us? That's right debit every playing a little nice with us. I got a call mark out. You know he comes on this show. We could see him through the screen. He doesn't dies beard. He's got that and I even told him on the air man. You GotTa just die. That beer comes out back on television. His beards on-ice and GRUND. He trimmed it at at Booker. T. Oil that booker always pushes on show. All is grey hairs gone. He's wearing a vince. Mcmahon ask suit. And he's out there he's all like you know he's prime he's primary great analysis gray. CouldN'T BE PROUDER. Why he's not doing anything with the XFL because I think you great Commentator for the xfl but man. He's looking A. I told you I told you a long time ago that Wwe they're coming for us. We got the Wednesday night wars. We got the bully. Going on the bump now marks either slowly slowly coming after us. I know you get your. You'RE GONNA be living like Tommy Dreamer three. Cw Man. You'RE GONNA start taking this personal. And maybe he could instead of saying radio and PODCASTS. You could have dropped. Are I mean you know? He's a couple of things here because you're covering a lot of ground. Would you always do so? I'm going to try to kind of organize this into certain little topic said we need to address first of all not going to get on Mark Henry for the beard and the soup because that is TV and on here. It's radio so he doesn't have to look is best because it is radio. I agree with you with mark on the job that he did last night on. Wwe backstage east phenomenal. And I love working with mark though You know I only get to work with them one day a week he does. The Saturday show does a great job with Ryan McConnell man he is custom made for TV to like he in that setting like the one last night he really thrives he was. He was phenomenal. And you are also right. I mean the fact I day missed the boat not having him involved with the XFL. Somehow some way he would have been perfect as either a commentator or sideline reporter or something but they really missed the boat not having him more involved with the XFL. Now you brought up something. That obviously has been something. That's been on my mind Ever since Matt Camp Jump Ship and that is the fact that the wwe you know. I vote I go and they get MAC him. Matt Camp Leaves Completely Forgets About Us. See does his own thing with the wwe used this show to catapult himself to being a part of the bump on Wednesdays and my house hardcore. Yeah and House of Hardcore Seeing victims of shows you what kind of person he is and I'm still waiting for his. Thank you and I'm I'm sure at some point. He'll call me and thank me for all the help that I gave him. Catapulting his career to being on the bump. Then the bomb with my camp pilfered bully ray pilfered and bully. Ray makes a comment about me. Matt makes a comment about me then. A real dig about you Tommy Real about you. And they laugh you know they`re. They're drinking their champagne cocktails all their high flute and friends there in Connecticut. A little jammed pay cocktails all the jokes and everything on us and then. Wwe backstage last night. So this more Henry Moore canneries doing the wwe and again out in La. It's a little bit different. They don't wear socks so they got the suits with no socks and shoes drinking champagne cocktails and making jokes about busted open and then barks like you know. When when I'm out of Radio PODCASTS. Bit mentioned about busted open. Mark take no offense to that. I know the game. You know it's like all right. Maybe could have said he could have said they're like hey when I'm hosting busted open with Dave Greco Dave and I always talk about keithly but he chose not to go that route or the number one show here. Yeah number one show with a bullet you know but the WWe seems to seems to be the trend now. Tommy you warned me about this. You said Hey man when you start to get successful watch out for the WWE. Mac Camp Poli Gray Marquette. Nery I mean what? What's next what why possibly could be next the wwe? What game are they playing with this? Show what could be next because I know there's another torpedo. That's common towards this show. I know this is not the last person out. It's a bully. And then they'd go. That's Matt and his bowling and mark. What what could they possibly do? Tommy at least I know I have you if you want to feel fresh. Look good and smell clean. You don't need a whole makeover a lot of cold hard cash you just need grooming products from Bravo Sierra. 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Talking about a he'll ran the or and and once again. What Randy or did to Matt Hardy on Monday? What away the start Monday night raw you talk about crowd reactions and I thought the WWE did a really good job of getting some of those facial reactions from the people in the crowd. But once again Tom we gotta talk about what took place on Monday and Randy Orton. You know like you said you're getting these real reactions from people number one. We all love Matt Hardy so much And if you're not on social media and you just get lost to what happens at the show who's a violent act when if we go back to the attitude era or EC. W We had some amazing moments but you kind of become numb to those violent acts but a violent act like that hasn't happened in a long time on Monday night raw and I do think they are stepping up a little bit because competition is knocking on the door. You know the week before we had the bite by sh Shayna Basler And then this week. She dropped the s bomb on television. So it's getting a little more and that's interesting. Because Vince McMahon said in the conference call just two weeks ago that you know they mentioned about eight e w in about maybe having a bit of an edgier product and he said no we were keeping the course. We're not changing our product at all. We're not looking to be more edgier and you'd have to say the last two Monday night. Raw have definitely been edgier. Well shocking that one thing said and the other thing happens you know that whole we're not gonNA see other wrestlers from other brands wrestle on other shows after survivor series. Yeah and we see it every single week so that should not surprise you. You know when Alex goes there he's GonNa see all some of those frustrating. Maybe change that just like this show will never change until you die and we'll be pulling the microphone out of your dead hand same will happen with Vince. Mcmahon he will go. You'll have to pry the company out of his dead hands. I also feel that you've already court recorded episodes of this show Postmortem and you'll interrupt this show. I know you've already done this. I've actually recorded evergreen shows that you know top ten. You know most popular baby faces of all time. Top Ten most hated wrestlers of all. I've recorded those types of shows so that when I do pass on which will be soon when I get more and more news outlets is just gave me just about twenty minutes ago. Live on our air. Instead of telling me off air maybe give me more notice than two and a half days but It's GonNa be sooner rather than later but I have those shows in place at least cover a little bit of time while I'm gone. No I feel like you're GonNa just one day go on a rant and then be like I'm so happy that's Simone Johnson took and retired Charlotte flare from the wwe at Wrestlemania. Forty eight. Like I know you had this all in your head. I know you have it. You're crazy. Well forty eight so that means that it would be what roughly eleven and a half years from now at any Wrestlemainia third. I WOULD BE I. Would I would be sixty now. You'll live longer than that. I hope so I give you till about eighty though. No look I said this on the air before no la. Grech male has ever read sixty. Would you never say that to me? I will cry a lot. I love you. I'm not a treacherous traitor. Like Alex is GonNa sit and urinate on your grave and posted on instagram. Alex actually said he loved me yesterday. And by that turnout. I still love today. Oh Yeah Yeah Champagne cocktails high. Hi My Santa Wrong. I'm not a professional those Hyphen Newton. Upbeat tights I read your. So what did you think of the segment? What did you think of what he did to Matt Hardy? And where do you think this is leading to and also another question is? What's next for Matt Hardy? A lot of questions coming out of that segment from Monday night. I feel that was the the Dubai to Matt Hardy from. Wwe and did Matt. Hardy deserve better absolutely but you know. P- it it will be remembered and I just think it's Matt's farewell for Randy Orton Randy Orton and you know by like a true professional. That Matt Hardy is he goes out and does what he is told and I was actually worried because I I love the next nap on the rope and I was like. There's no way he's going to take that Arcadio and there's probably two people in the wrestling industry. That take a face bump as good. And it's matt hardy in our own bully. Ray They just explode to that Matt and Matt just did a great job and helped elevate the heinous viper known as Randy Orton. Who is amazing and cots without you know Matt Reinvent Himself? Randy Orton has pretty much. Been this same in the sense of. He's great both ways. And this is Randy Orton. He's a great baby face. He's I feel he's a better he'll but he's he's pure money either way but he's always told you. Like kind of like Steve Austin. You don't trust the rattlesnake but you never trust a viper and you don't randy is just such a great. He'll where it's going from there. You either have to introduce another person. Maybe here comes Jeff. But I don't think jeff is cleared and then finally it's you know we have to finally see the return of edge. I would fight Randy Orton heartbeat for my buddy edge. Bully to bully you know obviously some historic matches with anti Christian. Unfortunately because no Christian is not medically cleared spoke to him. He called he was listening to a show. He listened to the show a lot. Now so I don't want to talk about him either. He's my Alex. He's turned on me many times but W gave Christian reason to turn on you. I never gave Mao. I never first of all I never gave Chris. I never gave anybody any reason to turn on me. I never have always been good. The beauty of Randy. Orton is what you just said like you. He could be your most popular face and he could be your most hated heel. And that's why you know this is working because people love to cheer Andy or they love the Arcadio. They love the pose on the ropes and for him to get everyone to hate him like he has man. I I say it on the show all the time. It sounds crazy to say. He's under appreciated but he really is when you talk about the best in the world of pro wrestling. You don't really say Randy and people start needs to be saying his name more when we talk about some of the best of all time because he was so damn good all the time and now when he goes for the ARCO doesn't get the pop it gets like no because they know the moment he hits at the matches over and they're almost mad. Yup Randy's been a star for a long time. His head's been in the right place for a long long time and that comes with maturity. And you know I can. I can never ever have enough praise for Randy Orton. I've known him since day. One of WWE. And I love the whole thing. They're showing on the network for the ruthless aggression. 'cause you're watching everyone come up but and I do feel randy. Orton is under appreciated. For how great he is. Because you don't you don't say his name in that regard but that's okay because the people that the insiders to the wrestling industry know how great he truly is if you don't know Sirius. Xm Then listen up commercial free music plus sports comedy talk and news. They had it off. A lot of people. Think you need a car to enjoy Sirius. Xm But you don't. You can listen outside the car right now you can get your first three months of Sirius. Xm outside the car. For just one dollar just go to SIRIUSXM DOT com slash busted to see offer details and to subscribe. You can listen on your phone at home and online that Sirius. Xm Dot com slash plus did offer available to new series Xm streaming subscribers siriusxm. No car required Becky Lynn. Shayna baiser hot topic. Everybody wants to talk about especially the Promo that chain cut on Monday. Look at you lugging bags. Your hard earned cash around for something that you're never going to get to do. Let me tell you how this is really going to happen. I'm in the Women's Elimination Chamber match the winner of that match. Gets to face you at WRESTLEMAINIA. The Elimination Chamber match is held in a cage. You know where I came from. I'm a cage fighter. Everything about this is laid up perfectly for me to be the one that takes a your title at Wrestlemania so I'm going to shoot through every other competitor in that cage. You know better than anyone that I'm willing to do that if it makes you feel any better. I didn't plan to do that last week. I just did it but imagine the things that I do have planned becky. I'm going to tear the Living Shit. Wow strong words Tommy from Shane. Obeys s-h-i-t were dropped edgy on USA? But you're allowed to do that told you after nine o'clock after ten o'clock gets even worse but Yemen there She's coming after what you're GONNA do. It puts the champion at a disadvantage. It sets up the table for WRESTLEMAINIA and It it's good. I like it. I like it a lot. I think Shane obeys ler is a credible credible credible challenger to Becky Lynch which if Becky Lynch is your top woman which she is you want to put her at those disadvantages. Put Her at those where she looks vulnerable. And if she's either GONNA kick ass or get your ass kicked but she's going to keep on fighting because she's the man baby and the one thing that I liked and tweeted about it on Monday when I was watching the show. Tommy is the fact that I was a little nervous about what they were going to do to. Shayna baseler character and with her biting the neck. And then you know Becky saying she was becky. The vampire slayer is little nervous. But obviously I think she did a good job of tying up that and saying hey you know what I'm only I I didn't think about. I just did it and I kind of liked that little edge to Shane obeys are so I think moving forward. We're going to get the. Shane obeys that we were used to seeing on annexed. And that's an ass kicking woman and that will be one hell of a fight. Hopefully it happens at Wrestlemainia with Shane. Obeys are now being off couple things now. You Look at the Elimination Chamber match that set. I think looking at WHO's participating in that match. Shane obeys or you would have to say is probably going to be the winner. Oscars involved in that and they've been that road with Becky Oscar. Many many times. The tally is been is a part of that match. And the live Morgan and Ruby Riot. And there's obviously a story there and then Sour Logan the only one. I could really see winning the Elimination Chamber match and going to Wrestlemainia to challenge. Becky would be obeys ler now. It is early to build that matchup and they've already showed you a lot. Do you think it's going to be Shayna baseler ambulance or do you think that somebody else might become a part of this as we get closer to Tampa. No I think if we're looking at the women's division we have Charlotte Ria and Bianca doing a three way for the title. And for Becky I think becky if if this was my company booking it phenomenal job becky versus Shayna and you can bring out the four horsewoman you could bring out. Rhonda maybe even goes on Becky side. If you're bringing casino always had Her Goon squad with her. So there's a lot more places you can go with that and I think for the money as well for fans to see that matchup is I I'm interested in that matchup. I think it's very very good. Mike what you're hearing catch busted open live Monday through Saturday from nine. Am To noon eastern on Sirius XM FIGHT NATION CHINA. One fifty six or on-demand with the series. Xm APP. All my God. Oh my God. Did you hear the crying of the people that was? I can't even get into that yet. We gotta talk misses first but someone that was on Ms. Mrs Was Actually Dolph that bastard. I'll talk about it now. So He's good friends with the MS whatever so the overall theme of Mrs last week was the big gender reveal baby number two from a number two businesses and Mike really really was pissed that he was not told the gender he was trying the whole week to get it out of the envelope that her sister was holding onto she was the keeper of the gender. She knew and she was the only one. Maurice didn't WanNa know Mike Mike to know so. He was trying the whole week to like get the envelope and like secretly get it open and like when they had the list so they have a little shooting. Confetti things that come out either pink or blue or voyeur girl. He stole them him and Dolph because DOLPHINS BASTARD TO HEAL. Yeah took took him with him and he said listen. We're GONNA WE'RE GONNA. We're going to sneak it and do it released. Yes so they popped it open and out came yellow confetti and it said you're Boston. I knew you were going to do this. But what's he also actually did the Confetti on the wrong side so it went right into his Um cooling area where he's the babies were made that section of himself like shot out like shot out of a cannon hit him right in the gut but so I asked you guys as the men. Do you feel like you should know the gender before everybody else when you're the father and it's happening because I know gender reveal parties are very big deal. People take them very seriously. How do you feel about the knowing not knowing of the genders With my daughter we knew beforehand because I wanted to prepare. I wanted to make sure that you know close in the room and all that was done before we had my abigail so I I wanted to know. The last thing I wanted to do is have agenda. Reveal Party For me I I had. I knew I was having twins. I did not care and I don't care about gender reveal parties and also for science babies are not made from. The man's abdomen knows it from there from the Little Ms. It wasn't a little miss. An kids are here. But I'm just saying You said the abdomen hit in the Gut asser because he he would hit them wherever the babies I know you first and then I said the guy. Thank you cleaning out of time. And what's there? They have girl right. Yes they have a daughter Annie. Monroe MONROE DOT EU. What set you up. Girls Daughters all respect for your series exit. What is the point of the gender reveal party exactly? It's just a reason to have a party people about what you're gonNA get free stuff from people at the baby showers reasons to work to work extra. S- another reason to literally have a party. I think it's something else I think social media I think people want to put it out on twitter and instagram. And try to get likes from it. I think what they do to reveal the these abstract insane events where they the one that I saw where they crack the egg over each other's head and they're all hardboiled egg except one and one has the color in like the yolk or no. It's in a blue egg carton or a pink carton. They're all hard boiled eggs but the one that's not hard boiled out of whatever car in is the gender of the baby smash them over each other's head. I actually like the way that rebbe and Matt did it. On on impact wrestling with the whole with the smoke and Matt didn't know and they revealed the gender of the baby with the smoke like after the final deletion. I thought that was really cool. Yeah I do yeah I like I like when it's a baseball and the guy and the guy has to hit the baseball when he hits a baseball it's supposed to explode in. That's the core of the baby but somebody gets hit with it. And so those are those are funny. If you've ever watched the fails like the Gender Party fails on the Internet. You'll be ours because people that can't swing or they can't open it or like the kids. Let go of the balloons before you got to open the thing so you don't know what color the balloons are in the box and stuff. It's really funny or when the guy finds out it's actually somebody else's baby that's always a good one too. Yeah I mean fad but anyway so also the mid says he wanted a boy very very badly because the daughter and they said if it was a boy they would have been done. But if it's a girl they're going to keep trying. Is that like a guy thing like you always want that one boy so you can like like have that kind of thing about it or are you happy with just I. I was ecstatic with a girl or a boy. I was fine. I love my daughter I would I have. I don't need Daverson Tommy. I agree And I always tell my daughters. They're lucky that they're not boys because they probably have been wrestling probably would have hit them with steel chairs or my a heel would have attacked them near thirteen. And then that group would have come after me typhus diapers. Why did you blade your son? Because they're in the business. Mr Davis Richard DREYFUSS. Donnie Davis Go. Talk to my producer. Dickey Mr Davis all right. So as we had started devan divas with Otis Mandy and Dolph the triangle that broke. Everyone's heart Dolph was on Ms Mrs. Because he's just terrible human being and he's friends with Ms Course but that whole thing that happened on Valentine's Day on Friday on smackdown probably ruin my entire weekends and I'm not GONNA lie. I had a great Valentine's Day really great things. I got some things in the mail. I got chocolate. No we're not friends so you hear what happened to Gabby on Valentine's Day aren't you interested? I am I am too long. Pause said mostly everything. I'm not thinking no I'm not interested. And why isn't Huey Lewis in studio looking up? Either top one fifty. I I mean Tommy. Don't you WanNa know absolutely well? We heard your daily advice on Valentine's Day. So how did you celebrate Valentine's Day so I got a package when I got home to my apartment of a beautiful bouquet of flowers? Every bad is holding their breath. You cannot say you got a package on Valentine's Day special okay. Every single posted that sets up. Additive is all fake. Bundle of how? `Bout you gotta give. Yes now anything I say is going away. You've got a special delivery package. Yeah and what was in that pack? Yeah it was so beautiful bouquet of flowers who sent me the flowers as I got them. The girl who delivered it was like. Oh we mess up your order. You're supposed to be getting a big thing of chocolate. Covered strawberries too. I was like okay. Well where are they like a more excited about the food and the flowers overstretch delicious? They are hours. Yeah I was like. What do you mean you mess up the package? And she's like well you know we have its downsides eight like it was a normal thing that was going to be okay so Mike Nine o'clock at night. When are you going to bring them later tonight or tomorrow morning? I said No. That's not gonNA work for me. I I need them right away to walk so the next day. It didn't get Chuck Cup strawberries so now I had to pull out my Jersey Card. I had to call up. The place calls a whole big thing about it but I got an extra dozen chocolate covered. Strawberries and I got a whole big box chocolate truffles on top of the other so I ate a lot of chocolate covered strawberries in a very small amount of time and a lot of chocolate. So whoever sent them to me probably doesn't even like me anymore because they're probably gained like five pounds. Well I think you still look beautiful number one and number two. I'm sure they still do like you. Were it was a nice? No okay wasn't from Tommy. I know everyone thinks he's super nice and romantic he sent me was from Dickie. Go Talk Tommy. Put some banana peels doors fall in love. Happy happy in can of Jif. Yeah Oh the it was all over my doors like handling and try to get in and people call the cops say this about the whole Otis and banned these stuff and I was very angry and I voiced that on social media on Friday but I will say this he was laid. The Guy can't be fashionably late. That's still jobs. Yeah so that's a badge. He in my opinion Otis failed on Friday on Valentine's Day. Would if how about this we have a twist? What if Dolph was there with the girl. She's always with at the same restaurant Sonia. And what if he likes it? Excuse me Sonia. I'm going to the restroom. And then he saw her there in Dobbs double dipping. Someone may have done that on his prom one year. That's a whole other real story. Yeah the real stories Ataba. Jaber cadence office would workout. But you know what I mean. The reactions that got was wide. Wwe sometimes does magical things because you heard an entire sold out arena of Vancouver. Just go no because they knew you. Despicable faster dolf. You have evil intention. I'm lost in your eyes. She didn't do anything wrong. Did something wrong? If I'm waiting for a date. That was all she did was say. Hello and another guy comes. He's not sitting down at the table. He sat down co-workers. Listen we'll pull up another chair in the three of us can sit there. He is wrong. She's right wrong yet. She let him sit down and the guy was pouring drinks not going over. Who was the one who she had to apologize for it? She felt so bad because he stepped on his AAC Dolphin. The first place. It's an open. Your Co Workers. They apologize okay. You're you'RE GONNA have to know you're GONNA have to watch on Friday or are you. Are you going to watch Friday no matter what because you're captivated with the story lines on working Saturday so either way I have to watch Friday? Wow too bad job by mandy badge off by. And she's not she's a rotten apple show. Otis go go back. Go back to the fruit store and find new. Okay so let's Turkey. He could do better Bazo. He's got his best. The best friend there are good though. He didn't give him really good advice. Either whole Turkey single to Burma. Watch for crying out loud. Maybe it would have been on time or giving him a ride given Mariah guy at a walk. You obviously did because everywhere yeah now. It's true our cell phone so you look it's employ tax mandy and say hey might be a little late uber and the flowers are pretty shitty to You know maybe you know. What do you buy them at the a pay? It's not about the expensive things it's about time spent together and he was. He obviously was to have enough time. Because and you're at a time. Gabby also how segment of diva divas. Thanks for listening catches Monday through Saturday. I'm busted open nine. Am to noon eastern on Sirius. Xm Channel One fifty six. 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Breaking Down the Ring May 10th 2020

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Breaking Down the Ring May 10th 2020

"You're listening to the podcast visit. Www DOT PODCAST DETROIT DOT com for Information Ladies and gentlemen. Let's talk money in the bank. Wwe second pay per view with no crowd and they have brought in a match that seemingly could be something that the wrestling world talks about. We'll get into predictions for this paper view and more this week as we don't no sixty Professional wrestler professional has boom boom Cabana genus killer. Cross what's up guys. Brian Ryan from pro wrestling thieves. Not the art of wrestling but even enjoy your your list and you're listening to the breaking down the rink with breaking down the rate mortgage. It's the answer. Ladies and gentlemen you are listening to the most inappropriate thrown wrestling show in the world. You're listening to breaking down the rain and we are ring. V zillow ninety over there yet and the whole. Mikey Mikey and sells homes. We've had a show We are doing a whole bunch of fun. This week were talking. All of the greatness that money in the bank pay per view Z. If you're gonNA keep moving stuff around go on mute so we can't hear your shit slide and of course we have so much other stuff going on thank you dave. We got everything going on this week. Talking money in the bank our predictions for pro wrestling. Scorecards you go to pro wrestling. Scorecards Dot Com right now. Fill out your own money in the bank scorecard. The great thing about this is when you go to the money and debates scorecard on your website it will now give you link to a digital Beta test. They're still spots open. So you can go right for Peres scorecards to US Beta. Fill it out in the great thing about the Beta is it puts you in the pro wrestling scorecard community and then in that group on the website you can see your scores up against everybody else. That has filled out a money in the bank scorecard. That's all that's the great thing that's going on right now Guys they did something different this year with the money in the bank well mainly because wwe is doing something different issue. Everybody they did they. What the fuck was that? Summer Sneezes Christ. I think it's easy move that this time wasn't everything picks up Bro. Because I'm W W is doing something different. Which actually makes this kind of a a try? Watch for this money in the bank they gotta get viewership. Because let's be honest. No everything else is dropping viewership except smackdown this week for the first time since crowds have we are dealing with a different style. Money in the bank. Both money in the bank matches are going to be going on at the same time for the men and the women but this time they're happening at the WWE headquarters and starts from the lobby on the ground floor and worked your way up to the roof and then on the roof. The is where the ladders and the ring are and you have to climb the ladder to reach the money in the bank briefcase being suspended above the ring nick. I'm going to start with you when this was announced. I'll be very honest. I was like. Oh okay they're finally doing something different and it makes me intrigues. How did you feel when you heard about it about the same you know? I'm definitely bored of the Magic and the performance center in front of no crowd and I mean it's not to say that there haven't been a couple of decent to good matches but I I like the idea I I just. I hope that they love a good ladder match so I hope that you know them. Climbing the tower all the way up to the top floor doesn't take away too much from the actual ladder match itself. Z. When you heard about this what were your thoughts I was in streets yet. It has potential for disaster. Bought going back to Russel Mania with fire miles and that bone yard match. If it's filmed something like that than I'm intrigued. Bassy with a do also. Both matters are going to be going on at the same time yet. So I mean that I mean these are all just adding the elements that we've never seen before so I'll give it a try but it has great potential but it also extension for failure so see what happens. Light Fair Joe Is this something that when you heard about it you were like oh great more typical but or is it. Hey Wow this is actually a reason for people to watch this. Even the let's be honest. No one's really been watching. W I mean people have less and less people watching. Wwe If let's actually take a vote right here how many of you have watched a full episode of any wwe. Besides maybe going into the show this week since Wrestlemainia Nick. Yeah I've watched either raw or smackdown. I have not watched both in either wake committing. I've watched one episode of smackdown because of the trade with the menu. Rose Otis you to build a story week as well. I zeke Year talking about any show except for shows that happened this week. Have you been trying to keep within this week? I watched everything a weeks leading up to nothing. Not a fucking thing and Jill and then go into answering the question to. I've not watched anything at all this week. And since Wrestlemainia I'd probably between Ron smackdown. I probably caught less than two hours together. I didn't know that I'm sorry. I I didn't know that both matches were going to be taking place at the same time until he just said that So as far as like intrigue I gotTa be honest. I'm I'm really detached from the product right now I haven't watched this little or this leased or whatever since maybe the two thousand nine two thousand ten era was. I missed that long. So I'm about as detached now as I was. Then which is. I'm pretty much watching everything except for. Wwe which right now is isn't a lot because the pandemic so just pledging w annex t So now that you heard Z. said that both matches are going on at the same time and they're going from the. Wwe headquarters starving going up until the the re of the headquarters. And then that's where the actual ring will be set up with briefcase suspended. Is that something that intrigues you? That makes you think man. Maybe this is something that I would want to watch. Because it's so different now I it's probably going to be more probably GONNA be a more a cinematic approach like they did with the boat. Imagine the fire. Live funhouse match which. The funhouse match was was kind of entertaining. I don't really care for the bone yard match But it kind of seems like the more rustling they do during this pandemic the more it might sway to that direction and I'm just not into that style like on a regular basis. You know when when Matt Hardy didn't it was cool in different and original and now it seems like a lot of stuff the WWe in this format they're presenting as like it's their original idea when I feel like they're just kind of stealing Approaches from Matt Hardy at Lucia Underground. Well this isn't the first even Matt. Hardy DIDN'T START. Cinematic matches matches in the past even. Wwe that had been cinematic style matches underground started doing it like bringing to the forefront. I'm not going to say yeah. Go with a deletion stuff because they always have dark universe with people like bill and Rosemary is stuff like that. I was watching out of that. But that's what I'm saying. Just we weren't watching a lot of it doesn't mean that it wasn't going because like I said even back in the nineties. Wwf cinematic style matches. I remember reading an article that was poignant because as everybody when the bone yard match devonian matches night one. Were giving Matt Hardy. All the props in the world is they. Look W W did they took your thing. They took your thing and then someone came out with article that. I WANNA say if I'm not mistaken Sid Vicious was involved in it Some sort of cinematic match. They pulled up when I was like. Whoa it just wasn't popular because it wasn't popular. Wwe when they put it out there they made a test. Nothing really can happen from it so it wasn't until I want us just like you said we've underground you know what we're doing cinematic style matches and Matt Hardy Really. Got It over into mainstream because health. When Michele started four years ago the main thing we were talking about when Orlando Christopher was one. P put it onto us. He's like you gotTa Watch them Broken Brilliance match got to watch the final delusion and we wash it and you're like Holy Shit and it was. It was something different. It was something better that we haven't been seeing and it was something that brought our forefront of these cinematic style matches. I agree that with wrestling. Not being a crowd affair. You know when I was asking you guys what you watch. I watched smackdown this week. I watch I watch bits and pieces of raw throughout the weeks and I'm talking five or ten minutes. It's not like I've spent any real time paying attention to wrestling because it's boring to me. It's all the same people. It's all the same even more so than before because we're arguing about someone. Having repetitive matches every week on wrestling on raw. Now we're like Jesus fucking ridiculous but now they have to do that because there are people who are wrestling. Roman reigns not on television. Sammy's Zane not on television. There's a lot there's wrestlers who are not on television because of this pandemic and because they wanna stay safe even worse than it was in the main the main problem with this because there were some who had problems. You know The MS was one of six. He had to stay home. Daniel Bryan went and quarantined himself. After all of the tapings for everything which was like three weeks before tapings of Wrestlemainia. So that's why all this other all of that happened so wrestling has been getting kind of It just more repetitive than usual and without the intrigue of everyone being involved it has become just boring and monotonous at least to me a seemingly so to us and everyone else because again since wrestlemainia ratings have dropped dramatically up until the smackdown which is the first rate or all rising ratings. It was under two million last week. This week was just over. Two million and raw has now seen a lows. That are record-setting non-holiday viewership spur off like it was like a a Christmas. Episode of Raw is has less viewers. That what Ross. Putting out right now. So it's crazy but as always we do this for the ring. The ring crew do it for our ring true championship which I currently am. Suck Nick mother-in-law's Income Dan. You midget stripper. Still even cordy leave me alone so we're going to go over. A pro wrestling scorecard picks for this again guys go to progressing. Scorecards DOT COM. If you go there he just your own scorecard for dish and then on top of that you can sign up for the digital Beta and it'd be a part of the pro wrestling Scorecard communities so we're just going to start off from the top with. This guys are great as order anything. So let's start off with this. The kickoff match they were announced Jeff Hardy versus Zarro. Nick what did you put for this and why? Why do you think everything's going the way it is I Have Jeff Hardy by pen for aerial moves six SCISSOR uppercuts yest- outside interference I just you know it just seems like this is going to go. Jeff Hardy's way I know What do you call his name? Shame has been talking a lot of Shit to jeff hardy so I figured he would go over on CICERO and by Q. Shameless might pop in there and causing interference. Something like that. Which means I gotta change from the. Dbq sorry Oh okay all right a also jeff already Bible paying five air moves. Sixes are uppercuts. Yes outside interference. They just going to be a bit. There's going to be able to build or jeff going into the natural matches have a shameless and we see shameless at some point with throughout the match or after yes I was pretty much the same thing as smitty here got hardy winning by pinfall or aerial new girders six and. Yes to interference. I have no idea of my actions are because I don't have it right in salt like you fought zoo. Have some ours other buckets. You know what I can pull up your extras thank you. Because I don't have an extra device to pull it out on all right. Anyways I picks is our wedding because I think shameless has been a good vault. And it's going to be the reason. Hardy loses his first match back after whatever that little docu series bid on fucking smackdown ones and that lead to the feud with the Jeff Hardy in shameless I can't go card. I think I had like four areas moves in while the other one outside interference so yeah uppercuts and uppercuts. Oh number of Albert God side put like six. I mean these aren't true number. I already out my third arts my answer so it says it's in on the thing is just for it's not letting me Look I mean hey you know what I'll just have you. Did you ever change any of your Logging information on it. I am brains. Yeah but I don't think yeah. I'll be very honest. I think we also have the same baton. No I changed my yesterday because I fucked up and couldn't remember and there wasn't saved for some reason. Oh look at you. Being all are worded he's Cajun I should probably not yield this password out loud them. I mean again if you wanted. They could always score better than I do. You have three area Moose. Five uppercuts yesterday outside interference. Seattle's within one. I SORTA got a point. I'm yourself. Hey that's all that matters. Let him let him enjoy his life. Okay Cheeses Pete Christ Monkey Ball. Just got me a fucking monkey. No he added all so it didn't sound his bad. You know what now now? Yeah we did this because you jumped all over it while I was still talking deal kick your ass right now sir up next is the WWF. Hey Hey I'm bringing back okay. We're GONNA back porch. Really Nice by the way is wonderful. I fucking cleaned it. I got seeks and chairs on it. There's a table you can sit there and enjoy yourself right. Morton Barnaby Imports Monkey. I'm GonNA fucking Porch Monkey. You understand me. Smitty W. W. Jevon ship matches next drew McIntyre defending it against the Messiah of Monday nights. Seth rollins all I should. I should give off my ticks I also have jeff hardy willing over by pinfall. Seven aerial moves three offices Uppercuts and yes to the outside interference. Okay W championship drew McIntyre Seth Rollins. We'll start with Smith. I got drew. Mcintyre win by Penn match time of twenty minutes of former falls yes outside interference Joseph Let's see here. I got drew McIntyre winning by pinfall eighteen minutes match time seven near falls in Yes to outside interference all right Z. All let me let me try and guests in grew told me if I'm right. Okay well I was. I prefer to just tell you so you can also describe why you went with these numbers but yeah so. Drew McIntyre pen saul clue minutes. What's the other letter? The last week I saw in Will there be outside interference. Yes yes fears an three near false. You had five near falls. The other ones were dead on twenty two minutes. Pinfall drew McIntyre So why are you going with the with these numbers? There be Mr Rob a big twenty two minutes to its it Seth Andrew So. I don't think that they're going to have a short match. But I also don't see them going thirty minutes so right Smack Dab at twenty two and normal put twenty two minutes. It gets me some point so I want with that. As far as You know false finishes or two counts failures. It'd be quite a few of them. I mean there's either going to be one or there's GonNa be like eighteen so any number works so that case I like to. You're lucky number for points. Just like disqualification is my unlucky match. Finish when you pick everything for Q for almost like solid year you have pretty bad rankings. Numbers everything if one three right. You go to the hall of fame. It's like baseball. Nick got drew McIntyre by Penn. Seventeen minute match time. Seven year falls yes to outside interference I thought about having this going as a d q when I started doing it. Just because they didn't know didn't really think that they would want to. You know make surrounds. Look all that week right now. I mean there. It seems like he's one of the top is on raw right now. Maybe extend that to you in a little bit but then I thought about him right now fucking ten fall and I don't see them going over twenty minutes. I don't see that happening. I think the money in the bank match is going to take a good chunk of time on the news so I don't see very many if any at all going over twenty minutes. I actually agree with you on that. Nick I do not have this match going that high in time. A tire life pinfall. Sixteen Minute Match Time. Six near falls and yes the outside interference. One of the things with dramatic trying to push right now is they're also trying to push him like with the devastating finisher similar to the F. Five and things when they're trying to get that over similar to what dirty deeds was for Jon. Moxley formerly Dean Ambrose in the WWE. And I agree. I think that this money in the bank being both matches going on at the same time. Normally you're going to get about twenty minute matches out of that so this could be a forty forty five minute match especially because it's going from the ground floor of WW headquarters to the fucking roofs so you never know what they're gonNA do for. All we know the basket start at the beginning of the paper and at the ending of the various this that was my thought process. I think it was already shot. And they just probably gone up between the shoulder gonNA show bits and pieces of both matches now elevator. Shafts bathrooms as one partial shit like that. And it's very possible. I need to think about that. Going the entire fucking Patriot. Missile ultimate fours is it. How many forces it the it's the entire fucking www but does anybody know how many you know stories? That is or no okay. Well let's just assume it's I mean that's GonNa you got eight people on one side and eight on the other seven and seven hundred fourteen people running up and take the minute. The ads whites match that they're doing so next. Match is the smackdown women's championship Matt's Bailey with Sasha banks by her side bending the superfly Jimmy Snooker's I'm not gonNA make their job. We watch way too. Moore's dark side to me. She's out to mean for the smackdown women's Championship. Joe Star started off. Got Bailey winning then fall three area maneuvers not be over ten minutes really know all right. Z. There's only three extras fall. Type aerial moves and match over ten minutes. Yes or no siege against against Ahead Bailey. By Penn Fall. Three area moves And hold on help me out or the other two more well the match be over ten minutes yes or no Think I originally put gasoline so to no no still. Yes yes it'll be more. I'm Nick Bailey. By penn. four year you'll move suggests over ten minutes ten minutes in one Smitty Bailey. Piss off three area moves. What last minutes? Because honestly if you're watching a match she's she got you played the pay your power game but you really can't go long. He can't go. But how are you going to have Bailey Suave Than ten minutes like after she's been like kicking her head off I don't I don't think it's a splash if it's less than ten minutes. I think it's a squad within three. I think if you get good wrestling I don't think to many can go more than ten minutes. I'll be very honest will say that's but see that's a lot of people right. You got the reason she's going for the belt is because you don't have enough people in there to do something with when you want this money in the bank match as well you know what I'm saying and so therefore you brought in me to make her somewhat and made her somewhat viable going into this. I don't think her losing under ten minutes is a bad. As long as she's made to still look strong within the mets spa she can get involved causing trip has happened to her. I'm changing it under ten minutes. Bucky I hope it goes ten minutes and one second now. I'm the same way I had under ten minutes now so nick. What are your columnist. Did exactly that it was gay. Did Me Damn Right? I heard I have lower by pinfall. Three area moves in. No the match will not go over ten minutes and that's just what it is. I honestly I see your pointy but it's to me. They're coming has had a single match where she looks like she should be going more than ten minutes. I'm not saying it will go about ten minutes. I definitely don't think it's going to be a two or three minute squash match sir to Meena hasn't had a match that through seeking even still Kinda Russell Lot alone probably go two minutes but if it does go ten minutes which side you know my answer the way it is no final answers and shit want if it goes fed minutes. I guarantee there's four boxes at least. Oh Yes for sure that's that's a DAS. I like it. You can hear me in everything. Even though I'm not by the computer she's going to slip and fall and hit her head real dark talking you know. Okay bless you thank Susan G Christ so I know optics? Failing is anyone sink that to Meena might take this like. Is this the final Fuck something up when you get to me as you knew snake worshiping. I don't think that's yet. I don't think that that's common. But not now. If she does take it it'll be some kinda dusty finish and Bailey about right there. I think there could be a seed planted tonight but I don't think it'll be the final Straw. Well there's our business plan to maybe see. Ooh We're going to garden here of. Sasha Banks Nurses Bailing Michigan. Your Buddy Skin. Yes you are. You can buy seats anytime you. I have a garden kind of by the forty year old. The forty degree weather day. Eight days ago yeah. That was the day that I turned over my garden. It was freezing outside. It was so cool smackdown tag team championship match. Next is a fatal four way. The New Day of Biggie and Kofi defending the smackdown a tag team championship. They won against Lucia Shahar House party. The forgotten sons and MS and Morrison. Hang Logo. There is one two three four five six extras for this. One Z. You're going I. It's time you can remember. This all will try. I will try. You know brain cells. We don't get along that's nice. So who do you have? Winning are as listens going to be tough At one point I had every team bought the illusion. House Party when a landed on the new day retaining he. What is the next thing false? I penned fall. I got this many shuttle who makes the fall. I think I put Tolsey who takes the wisely blake because he was taking no matter. What odd our number of aerial moves? Oh a free giles. Fires in this match my expression air for like six you four. Oh Yeah can you change that number for me? Yeah what number would be Just ladylike okay near fault one. Six four five six YEP and will the cheer be used as a weapon. No no so you said you went on Thinking every team could win this match except for House party but then put that Wesley. Blake was for sure taking the fall. No matter what did you for half a second I was like maybe the forgotten sons will have their time. And then I'll pick it in a minute. I was going through the the extras and that says that's as quickly as the forgotten songs. Got Though like Oh. No Wesley. Blake is definitely taken this fall so then I had Ms Morrison up there and the next year by the new day. I don't really know why. But this is one of those matches where this could be like your shock and you get the the forgotten sons win. The championships are forgotten war. Or you have Ms Morrison. Take it back. When the new day concede with Graham sounds vascular? Anyway you know Pat. Yes honestly not arguing. Why are you so sure it's going to be? It's going to be one of the forgotten sons. Take in the fall. He had it been blake not not cutler While the my only options were Wesley Blake or Jackson Reicher slaughtered. Even though Jay Cutler's the end this Jackson raiders on the scorecard and Jay Cutler was not online I duNno was wasn't cutler not the former. Chicago bear quarterback that's now single caller. Had Him take the fall? I'd definitely of people definitely had intercepts to match. I came up with Wesley. Blake because you know everybody needs a fog guy. Then he's been. The fog is synthetically. Has He really forgotten? I always thought it was cutler. I'll be I wouldn't cutler with run. Ever I measure watch soon Jay Cutler calm in Iraq will out on admit kicks in why I gotTa tell you. I was surprised that the forgotten sons were in this match. Because it shows how much I have not been watching like when you really forgot forgotten Sunday night. Fucking forgotten all about him. He had no idea they were. Even there. Morrison by me and they're pretty easily forgettable tons. Morrison making the Fall Steve Cutler taking out seven moves seven aerial moves and eleven near fault so I guess the only one small way but everyone else is like confidence season Kovachev. Good I feel good. I'm fine I just like half an hour like right before we did like our voice. Artist got flipped because he's the only one that was able to get in the scorecard before it went down on pro wrestling scorecard. I the four went down. I just filled it out at like three thirty fucking more. Ditto laying Nhl Ninety Four. Three thirty yeah you were. Super Girls is E. R. K. Don Good I can breathe now. Great yes welcome to the show. I mean she's Holy Jones. Smitty what do you got for this team A new day has the black guys win. Why now if I had said something about animal it would have been super fucking not just me ripping into a normal Tirane okay. So Kobe makes the fall. Grandma takes a ball boost ten near false seven yes it. Shares will be used as a weapon. At the chairs meeting they're there's going to be cutler and blatant side the match Shares WHOEVER YOU CARE. Reicher them already. This is an delimination mess. This is a true fatal four way. Correct it's not losing your gone. I believe as far as I know. It's a traditional fatal Forbes. So it doesn't matter chair on there's No D. Q. Right up did also like I think to lose your house. Fires a fall team at this point? 'cause you have to but it seemed to fucking obvious but also the thing about the forgotten sons is like. I've been watching. Bits piece of smackdown guide on smackdown for the last couple of weeks since they'd be what they've been pushing. La- house party ever since let's say Dorado took that spot at elimination chamber. Also which is far. He's never really been. They haven't been features have forgotten sons status. Don't forget them. Joe What is your call on the smackdown tag team championship winning Butler taste ball. Eleven aerial maneuvers Five near falls and Yes to chair being used as weapon. Joe You don't have headphones and do you know that's what I can hear the river when you talk. I was wondering who it was. I could not couldn't tell okay mine. Enron weren't working is a bad stupid. No it's not too bad. It's just like a little a little bit. Not as bad as Z when he moves around because can be featured. He's doing see. Why fucking the mute yourself breath? Just I've been eating well. I appreciate that 'cause I don't really know how to be able to attack your screen. And then the other features I have options so much not anymore all ever mastered was a visual background and I went with it. I didn't really look around. All right for me I also have the new day going over. I just I will say good then done. Sorry okay I will say I agree with you those. This was one of those matches while I was like man. I feel like he's going to be super flip. Flopped around changed up. Made a little crazy. It's GonNa be the smackdown tag team match. But I ended up going with new day winning by pinfall trophies making the Fall Steve Cutler to fall twelve aerial maneuvers. Because of how many fucking teams are in this match with fucking Morrison Russia House party in Kofi Plus Big Egos through the fucking itself so I have twelve for the aerial moves eight near falls and yes I also feel a chair will be used as a weapon but yeah I did anyone else I Z. Said it so? I think he probably just went. Hey Black team kicking them. Jewish you know. He's like Ms Mizzen Morzine or New Day Heavier. Oh by the way to the world on their shoulders and did Obama people. Of course all right there smitty I go for you Did you have any problems taking this? Did you think new day was gonNA take it right off that no? I didn't think the black would win at all because heard black people. The views and opinions expressed bringing question. Did you did you think that new day was the ultimate for sure or did you have a hard time picking this? No I picked Ms Morrison yet. I think what they're gonNA have a nice little run with titles Not Too much longer but I did it first one and I did want to go with a new day But I I just I feel like they have flip flopped the new day having the titles too many times for me in the last six eight months. They've held two separate times. I believe the new. Hold the belts right now because the smackdown right after yes. I haven't been watching the deal. Remember how there was a triple threat ladder match at Wrestlemania for the belts? Another one on smackdown in this. I miss took a loss to biggie. Yeah all right after after putting putting the other guy in your four for what seemed really wants. Okay so then yeah. It's too soon for the new data. Lose the title so GonNa Win. Dais GonNA win Copays going to knicks back to like the black people see so basically. Nick just did exactly what I said. Everyone was doing no flip flopping around Sir thanks man up next Universal Championship Braun. Strowman verse Bray Wire. It's not has not been the fiend. It's Bray Wyatt and is taking on. Ron Stroman Nick we'RE GONNA start off with you. Are you sure? Yeah I've Got Braun. Opin seven-minute Match Time or finishers. Yes to an appearance by the scene and yes to Firefly Shit House segment do all right Shit House Shit. House used to be Shit. House Latrine Mikey's frozen on my screen. I I almost prefer him that way. He's got a look like he's trying to push out a dunk virtual background a narcissistic at that point then. All have you met Mikey. We may have lost him. We lost Mike. We won't be live still Where we're way 'cause I wasn't paying attention. We were guided. Missile Championship picks. Oh Hey guys very what the fuck happened there? You had image on your screen. That looked like you're taking a dump your shrink like that cool. I'm glad I'm back. What's crazy about that? As Dave made me the host. Because you know I'm cool. I wonder if that affected are streaming all lives. We live this whole time. Yeah it never a flipped during that. No that's good 'cause man. I was worried about that. That was crazy. I went up all of a sudden I heard go. Mikey Stroz into my screen. Oh Yeah I something popped up saying. My Internet connection is unstable which weird. It's never happened before and then I just went away so now you guys are reordered so the order. I was going going be different now. You used to be on the top of my screen. Now you're all the way down at the bottom. I don't I don't even with this place. Yeah you're on the other page Z. Took Place Online. I'm the top might straighten now like again he's throws. This is like moving up. You're my space top five up a notch. He's frozen like this on my screen kief owes. He's not even minding oblige into black screened. I got him doing this fall. Universal University title. I have bronchial streep now it's Z. Now you're next after that after Z. Okay what do you got for the university? Jimmy's man. I have bronze Stroman by disqualification yet. Why this match it made sense for. They have to. They have to continue this one since. Roman central doesn't exist a broad by D. Q. What are the other sessions matched Put that at Lake Fifteen not evident ten. Oh three ten minutes. Finish three yet. Appearance by the fiend yes or no yes and firefly funhouse segment before the match. Yes you do. That's exactly what you had correct. Smitty hitter Brosseau stroman winning by Pinfall Matt Sean. Eleven minutes three finishers. Yes appears about a yes of firefly's funhouse segment before the match. This is one that I really do not care for. Feel like nobody wins. This one no matter who wins or loses why because of brave gets gets back now broad. Is it like bobby. Transitional Champions just FUCKED UP LEBRON IF BRADY LOSES Repeat what has been happening brave for the last pretty much longer decade but prey isn't the fiend in this Nathan. A FACTOR ON SOME PEOPLE. It could be a factor to me not so much joke. I got bronze winning by D. Q eleven minute match. Time one finisher and yes to both appearance by the fiend in The funhouse segment. I Have Bray Wyatt winning by disqualification. Eight minute match. Time to finishers. No To the appearance by the the fiend. And yes. Yes the firefighters funhouse segment before the match. I agree with using this. They're going GONNA continue this one for a little bit. And that's why I also believe that. Disqualification is going to be in effect but again I have thought the reason I've used his qualifications Many feuds we're GONNA continue this time it seems like a foregone conclusion because it's not like anything else is after it's also money in the bank so depending on when the matches fall somebody. That wasn't even in the championship. Match could walk out the new champion. That's true I think I think this cinematic experience is going to finish off this paper view though I agree saying if it does happen to fall before they're matched there's no better time than to beat up broad stroman after you know the scene out no sells everything the point Up next another match that was just added to the card are truth versus. Mvp Ball faulk. What is in two thousand seven? Actually I really what I read this. I actually Kinda recap some Ross for the last couple of weeks. Of course it'd be p segments. Pick Man Z. You're starting this off. fall tight match over ten minutes. Yes or no in prematch. Promo yes or no. Are The extra that you'd have to guess all right while when to enhancement talents Russell each other. It's really hard. Pick a winner. Because normally I would just pick the guy. They were wrestling Iwa. Would that be p other swamp although I did this? This one was hired to pay back and forth Throughout new just 'cause either one could use the win are truth. Hasn't had like sixty eight type in the last couple of months for titles or anything like that and yet but not in like legit matches like in the parking lot on some previously reported bullshit. He hasn't had an actual real match that he's worn the longtime fair Smitty Smith Kishi Smith has a MVP win about pinball. The match does not go over ten minutes and yes or prematch. Promo every P hasn't Over the last couple of weeks raw and he's also been a manager for To College Exceed Right now. And we kind of feudal with a ricocheting Alexander so I can see those guys interfere in causing truth to match joke Got Our troops went in by in fall to Being over ten minutes and yes and prematch prompt all right nick got MVP pinfall not over ten minutes in to the and I have MVP winning as well by pinfall match over ten minutes and yet if Yes for the match over ten minutes and yes for the prematch promo many. I'm kind of with you on this except I think this is finally the time where the rumors of them turning somebody to get him. Major Ceviche time happens. I think Apollo crews is finally going to do is he'll turn and joined the MVP stable and you're going to see him featured more which is going to obviously why MVP is going to get the win Now we get onto the money in the bank matches or start off with the women's match So for us as they have done this differently there is. They have things for the money in the bank women's match they have things for the money in the bank Men's match and then they have money in the bank Combine because obviously both matches are going on at the same time. The men and women's match so one match will start in both matches. You start at the same time however they could both finish at different times like one masking me going into four or five minutes longer than the other word because someone's Reach their briefcase. So we're going to start with the women's match it's if you guys are paying attention scorecard. Of course you gotTa pick your winner of the first wrestler a roof. I touch the case. I climbed the ladder last wrestler on the roof last touch case and not win and will the case be cashed in during the paper view events. Many were starting off with you I got Shayna Basil winning first restaurant a Ruby Lacey. Evans I touch the case will be lacey. Evans I to climb the ladder Be Carmelo last restaurant. Roofs will be Jack's to touch the case in in. No the case will not be cashed in Ernie event. All Right Joe Got Evans. Winning First Wrestler on the roof is Oscar. I touch cases are Mela later. I Got Dana. Brooke last wrestler on the roof got. Shane obeys ler case. Not when I A- Jacks and no to the Cassian Snick I've got Shayna baiser winning I wrestled on the roof as Oscar. I touch the case is going to be Carmella asks who's GonNa Climate. I last wrestle around the roof actually have Shane last. Touched the case and not win Lacey Evans and the case will not be cashed in thinking. Remember this one on different. You are going to be easy for me because I big. Shane obeys layer. And then I just went down the list. So first question would be Oscar case tonight. Oh you're actually wrong. I attach the case who would over. I said well you did Such the case. Spiders first wrestler on the roof is the next one. But you didn't go in order yet because on Carmelo right now. Your first wrestler on the roof is nine. Jack's Oh and then from there it goes Oscar Comrade Dannebrog. No Oscar Carmella Lacy Evan so I and touch cases ASTA I to climb. The ladder is Carmella last wrestler. On the roof you have lacy Evans and lasted touch. The case and not win is Dana Brooke and you have no to the cash. Was He made his random picks money in the bank who knows. Dana Brooke could be the last one to touch the case or before everybody else especially already touch Cheetahs Hog. They had so much work done to her face. She doesn't even look like Dana. Brooke anymore or I. She say she had her lips definitely done and she dropped off a lot of muscle. Mass small sees had boats boats in our jaws. All here you can tell by the way her face shape but anyways still wouldn't mind -tainer boobs anybody's Sir. Also I'll say at margin I have and the only one pick this oscar-winning Lacey Lacey Evans is the first wrestler on the roof. Carmelo is the first touch case. Shane obeys the first climb. The ladder last wrestler on the roof is Dana Brooke. Because your lips held her back lasted touch the case in seen bays and the case will not be cashed in during the event. So I've been thinking Shayna Baiser was going to win this match until last night. They realize how obvious it was. That fainter bazars probably not GonNa win this match. Nestle much that it's obvious but at the same time I feel like there's more involvement from people. Then Vince in this. Now just because of how fucking stupid and crazy especially with Paul Heyman helming raw and I think it's a smart idea for Oscar to stock or eventually you get asked Shayna because I can see. Shayna going through coming out summer slam with the belt not needing the money in the bank case to have the match so I think More long term. I think Shane is definitely a short term. GonNa be an tile picture. I think it's the smarter to have somebody else with the money in the bank case rather than just Shane Obeys Ler. So that's why I went with Oscar. This guy's everything fucking else is like I mean here's an throw it at the dartboard. See what sticks you know? This is because that's just how it is. It's a money in the bank match other extras other extras for this. Seemed to be like they're gonNA be a lot more fun. Let's do the men's money in the bank match now. Jolts right I got Aj Styles when this thing who turn their fan. Because I can hear it. I haven't moved not you every no everytime joe talks. You can hear it. So whatever's going on outside. It's not good. I got Daniel Bryan first wrestler on the roof. I touch case Baron. Corbin bursts to climb the ladder Ramos Stereo last on the roof. Elster black Last touch case not win Otis and no on the cash in all right. Nick wait job. I'm sorry AJ elster black winning age as the first wrestler on the roof. Corbin is going to be the first time Ramos. I declined letter last wrestler on the roof. Daniel Bryan Last touch and that win Barron Corbin. Zd WanNa guess you to tell your picks AJ styles. I one on the roofs Or I one on the roof. I think I had Barron Carbon yes. I believe it was Daniel Bryan Alastair Black Plague audrain I to climb a ladder authors. You're just GONNA run down them off. I climb the ladder Remember just regularity our been you have last. Larsen on the roof is AJ styles. Daniel Bryan will be the last touch the case in not win and the case cashed in during the event no either Because I picked I was going to pick. Yes because of the whole Braun strowman and Bray Wyatt match but then I realize that age as wrong so that wouldn't work entertainment. Smitty your cakes. I have also black winning first restaurant roof and the first person says Barron Corden the first time the ladder in cereal last semester on a roof is Otis last out Wednesday. O'brien in no case will not be catching during the event. Can you hear me rose again? Cervical difficulties breaking down. The ring was an end a little early today. Guys snare really think that that the either case would be cashed in tonight. No well if I get fine this go away permanently. Sorry off Mike. What are your picks on? The last thing I said was smitty. What are your picks a you asking you to repeat them? I understand I'm I'm saying the last thing I heard. So many of my six alastair black winning Barron Corbin being the first wrestler on the roof. I touch the cases also bearing Corbin. I climb the ladder. Aj Styles last restaurant on the roof. Otis car they will affect our then playing the fat card so smitten the only other one who pick that obviously and last test the case in not win is AJ styles. No the cash. That case will not be cashed. In during the event you know Otis is not going to be the last one. He's going to be the first one America. This fat ass is GonNa take the elevator you pick baron Corbin sir. I know because it's just the he'll move to be the first one on the roof. Not Jecklin that's why as well So THAT MEANS SMITTY. You saw that dumb shit. They did on Friday when they gave the ladder. They literally took off the bracing. So the minute is soccer. Stopped on a thing broke. Look like a real ladder is pretty stool. Congratulations W still fat shaming people. All these years we're kind of mixed right alison. Aj because I think Z. Has Aj Joe? Had A J. If I'm not mistaken Allaster I have Alastair Smith. Who did you say one? I've Alastair so it's a pretty big crowd. Aj was thrown into. This changed a lot of the thought process on how this match was going to go because Aj was pulled back quickly on raw because everyone was going away injuries sicknesses all this stuff and they needed to pull they were apparently. Aj was supposed to be off until like summer slam time to sell. Yeah Yeah exactly. Another brought him back early but didn't even really mentioned the burial or Adam change anything he just turned back while normal. He said he was not a Zombie. And he's not a ghost in his promo not Zombie not a ghost. I'm just phenomenal. Congratulations guy you just. You're Jesus southeast buried. Jesus exactly exactly money in the bank Combined let's see this one is a lot. He's Nick your first. All right. Got Three desks being destroyed Yes to an elevator. No two arrests are going to the window Yes for Blood. Yes for either match enters a bathroom. Yes for enter gender moves I think the men's matches going to end I I put one minute between match finishes. 'cause I kinda liked the idea that they would. Both you know kind of end back to back really quick for match time. I did initially have forty one minutes but then you know I don't remember who it was brought up a good point that this thank you go the entire length of the show I. I'm still not sure but I put one hundred ninety two minutes. Remember the the leather strap matching their like ended up with like something. Lashings going like that. Ira Z. you're nuts What are the questions ago? Number of chairs or number of deaths are tables. Destroy other up with three. You'd rather be an elevator used a change. Flora Gesture Wrestler goes to the window. Yes or no okay. So that's the one I wanNA stop on real quick because I know because I'm assuming like that's like somebody's thrown out of the building like that's the way I took it cubicle. Windows down each floor They said that they could end up in Mr McMahon's Office. They said they could. There's there's more than just like the. I don't think anyone's going to go through a glass wall. Not Yeah any window wasp but I also believe that. No they're not going to bleed because ww doesn't lead you so Wyoming. I'm saying unless you have like an undertaker situation where somebody happened to get knicks while taping. And they couldn't fix it. You're not going to see any blood. Unfortunately although this this is the perfect scenario for and then lie Matt's Time Total. I think I put forty five minutes hold on. There's more weight does either match into a bathroom. Yes or now by put yes who inter-gender moves? Yes or no yes match the ends. I men or women or men because men are superior. Oh How am I right now? Use It? Opinions expressed by breaking down the ring. Let's just hit that drop. Just views and extending. No that's our next year. The views the rematch finishes five minutes. Yes and match time for both matches to complete forty five or fifty five minutes. I'm like It'll actually sir. You hit fifty Girl with a many do the same for Ahmadou. Yeah Hundred Ninety one okay. What's really funny about that is you. Can Price is writer? But it doesn't mean you're getting the points that he's not getting okay. Okay okay. One hundred ninety one ninety one this way if it's one two hundred minutes. I know not how it works. They're just help. The pit popular right. That's state or neutered deserve version. Snaky their I have five tables desk being destroyed. Yes you elevate. Us change floors and say once again plan cart wrestler does not go through window may change that 'cause office windows like die. Hard situation is not a die. Hard situation some say yes No wrestler bleeds amass interest the bathroom. Yes yes intergener- Moose Women's match first time between finishes nine minutes and I had to split ninety minutes for match time. 'cause I'm thinking like duration of shows will what you realize it's not just segments and then combined together like that mass starts at the beginning of the show ends at the end of the show. It's three plus hours one. Yeah if you're going ninety minutes I feel like you're completely out of it. One eighty five eighty. Five is what you're searching to you written down or are you doing all you're doing? I'm on the phone okay. One eighty five host Hoti. You'd think for money in the bank combined takes place are tell us I got five tables. Yes to the elevator district Z. About Window 'cause there'd be plenty opportunities to do that up and down the hallways But I do agree with the Z. On the wrestler bleeds part. That only happened infants truly accident accidental. And they can't edit it out but this is wwe and they love toilet humor so it will go into a bathroom and there will be inter-gender moves also agree with Z. That the women's match will end I because it should time between finishes three minutes and I just to pick forty eight minutes in case it doesn't go the graceless show. I was GONNA say `I deterred everybody from picking a normal Matt Sti- except search and it's going to my picks. I have seven. Is the number of desks or tables. That are destroyed. Yes the elevator will be used a change floors. Yes wrestler will go through a window. Yes there will be accidents Blood that will be shown during this match. Yes either match going to the bathroom. I wish there was an extra will wrestler. Get swirly outside of the same thing. Yes there's GonNa be inter-gender moves. I have the men's match ending I because I think I think they're pushing women more holidays and time between match finishes. I have four minutes in. I have forty one For my match time. Because that's just what I believe. So let's talk a little bit more about this match. This match is being done at the W. Headquarters for one reason. One reason only two reasons treats and the fact that they're leaving these headquarters like they're getting a whole brand new fucking building so they have no problem with this being fucking destroy right It's an and that's like they've done things in the headquarters of four Steve Austin having fucking you Mercedes. Yeah you know in office things like that but this one that they're actually destroying a lot of things and going through the entire fucking corporate structure. Nick we're talking about how this does this. Bring out things to people and making them WanNa Watch but are you like. What are you gonNa be the craziest fucking thing done in this match the craziest thing done well. Jim. They're gonNA do the cable. Jim Spot again properly. I don't think they'll they'll pull that again You know I think the craziest thing that they're gonNA do. I don't know if they are going to be able to actually throw someone off the roof or through a window but you know there's going to be a really high spot probably around the same height as like Helen Sal Change I'm softer style and I don't know where I don't know who you know. I read a couple of things throughout the week that someone said. Oh yeah they're planning a high spot. And Vince McMahon said he would do the spot or you wouldn't have somebody else do the spot he couldn't do it himself and he did the spot So yes some kind of high spot is going to be one of the craziest things in the match. I don't wear where but committee you should go back to the What you're how you're leading back because it just made your head disappear and it was hilarious. Earlier he turned his head towards his wind over there and he just fucking news the headless Smith's Mond Z. What do you think could be one of the craziest moments Not sure I mean you're likely to see somebody thrown off. The top of the building Atlanta returned raw the next week like most the next night like nothing happened will. Aj still took a couple of weeks not before a WCW. Somebody was thrown off the rue. The giants was the models. Yeah he was thrown off the roof of the beginning of the show but still laid backs in the main event. Face Ofo Yanomami selling BARONI. Yeah Yeah Yup exactly. They said he landed in the river but he actually landed in a parking lots in the video they shouted Haredi Selena. Making sense right would never area got you? Say some our words as my ribs are up. Next are the unscheduled appearances. All Nick started the last one right. Yes did you okay? So yes he I think I had no particular order since day. Nakimora still there what I get reminder drew Dulack Becky Lynch Gronk Xavier Woods. I would like to change. Gronk sir famous okay. I'm I'm having some stomach issues so I'm leaving a little early today. Well we're we're almost done. We're done after this fucking picks anyway so you gotTa Poop Poop. You're GONNA go poop. See you guys later poop. All Shit was wondering if he was like video go away and that he was going audio audio on. I would have been like in gross here. Scheduled appearances drew lack mandy roles. Becky Lynch might Ford and Bianca Belair. Joe Got Kyrie's saying shame as Buddy Murphy dolls. Sigler Mandy Rose. Murphy's listed with a rollins. Yeh Murphy Dot Com okay. I'll replace him with since gain hackamore. Nick I've got shinsegei shame ass- Mandy Rose Alexa Bliss and Ohio. Luck Judge Lynch. Okay Joe Down Joe. Did you failures out digitally. We did it pop up like when you had buddy mercy didn't pop up read. Yeah did okay. Yeah so that's why I told you that was the last one. I picked a still highlighted. Okay ACID POPS. Up is a red person So anyone who's paying attention to Obviously checking on our picks and on the digital. That's one of the good things about it. If you pick someone that's already counted for scheduled periods. It will show up as a red thing so it saying hey. This person's already scheduled. You can't get any points if this person shows so that's another good thing about being a digital Beta tester for progressives still actually like on that one because I actually changed that that particular pick a couple of times. Oh No it was a bitch. That was the last one I changed. I just thought I was still on it. I have becky Lynch Montas Ford Mandy Rose Apollo crews in Angelo Dawkins as my extras in this ladies and gentlemen again was put also almost put gronk but I put dulack instead. Okay Ladies and gentlemen. That's it for us. This whole show was about just the money in the bank predictions. Enjoy money in the bank. Tonight we will definitely be discussing this next money in the bank. Pay Per view next week and while they're leading into their next pay per view seeing if they're done anything spectacular to make people intrigued again or if they've done everything they've already done to make people just go the crowd to watch wrestling again. Make sure you go to progress and scorecards again if you go to progress scorecards dot com. You put that money in the bank. It will have give you options and download a PDF download a PNG file or become a digital joined the digital and I'd definitely say joined the digital over four hundred. 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