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Leaders: Nonhelema

Encyclopedia Womannica

05:41 min | 1 year ago

Leaders: Nonhelema

"Hello from Wonder Media Network. I'm Jenny Kaplan and this is encyclopedia. Will Monica are women of the day was a great warrior and leader of the Shawnee tribe. Who deftly let her people through a time of great change and turmoil? Let's talk about non Halama. We don't know the details Of when non Helena was born but it was around the seventeen twenty s probably in western Pennsylvania. We also don't know much about her childhood besides the fact that that she seems to have come from a prominent family from the Shawnee tribe non Halama story really picks up in the late seventeen fifties during the period of the French in Indian war by that point she and her brother known as Hook Alaska or corn stock. We're living in the Ohio valley the Shawnee had moved there under a pressure by increasing white settlement corn stalk become a prominent shawnee chief and warrior as a quick reminder. The French and an Indian war was the North American portion of a larger war called the seven years war in North America. British and French colonists fought as each side attempted to further expand in their sphere of influence. Native people also took sides. The British basically one like other sibling duos in native history corn stock and non Halama lead together during peace and war for example at the battle of bushy run in seventeen sixty four non Halama lead warriors warriors alongside her brother. That battle was part of what's known as pontiacs rebellion a fight between native Americans and the British who were hot off their victory in the French and Indian war. When rumblings of revolution began to take hold across polly's cornstarch and non Halama decided that the best strategic move for the Shawnee people would would be to support the American settlers over the British? This was a risky move. Considering the perceived military might of the British Horn Ornstein was assassinated in seventeen seventy seven but non Halama state the course with the support of her husband Mulugeta who was also a prominent leader and warrior when non Halama learned that some Shawny had traveled to join the British at Fort. Detroit she responded by rushing to warn the Americans of this development she disguised too revolutionary soldiers traditional Shawny garb so that they travel undisturbed for Donnelly to warn of the impending attack. Those Shawnee who had allied themselves with the British destroyed. Non Halima's cattle as payback non Helena and her people move to escape further trouble but her work for the Americans wasn't over in seventeen. Eighty non halama guided and translate it for Augustine Dila bomb a French ex PAT soldier who was tasked asked with leading a major campaign against British troops. And what's now Illinois. Sadly not Halima's loyalty was not rewarded. In seventeen eighty six non Halama and her husband will loofah. Both elderly by this point were captured in yet. Another war the northwest Indian war. That conflict was between a Confederation of Native American tribes with the support of the British begins the new United States though the Americans who captured assured non Halama and Milan were initially ordered not to harm them. One of the men you mcgarry felt differently. mcgarry asked Melinda if he'd been at the battle the blue licks blue didn't understand the question but repeated battle of Blue Licks mcgarry took that his confirmation and killed Milun Tho- with a Tomahawk Non Halama tried to protect Milun thaw and was injured herself before. Another man tackled mccarey non. John Halama was then taken to Fort Pitt and held there while there. She helped compile a dictionary of Shawnee words and their meanings in English. She died soon. Even after her release non Halama lived an extraordinary life as the world around her change dramatically. She married three times CBS twice before her final marriage to Melinda and she also had sons with two white men a son named Thomas with the British Indian agent Alexander McKee and a son named to Mantha. With an American officer named General Richard Butler Samantha also became a great warrior this week of Encyclopedias. LUPITA with Monica is brought to you by the great courses plus is drive to learn something new every day. I'm guessing if you're listening to this show. You feel the same way. That's why I'm so excited to tell you about the great courses plus their online streaming service thousands of lectures on a huge number of topics. It's like going back to school without tests. Though I'm sure you're trivia skills will got a boost in the spirit of this episode. 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Shaniwar Wada

Haunted Places

44:03 min | 5 months ago

Shaniwar Wada

"Due. To the graphic nature of this haunted place listener discretion is advised this episode includes dramatization of graphic violence harm against minors, Abe ISM and suicide. We advise extreme caution for children under thirteen. Sophie was going to bomb this place on tripadvisor Shawnee War WanNA looked nothing like the bond sally film. Her mom made her watch before they came to Poona to see the real setting of the eighteenth century epic. She was promised a palace of mirrors instead, it was mostly gray and weathered with small windows that only let the light in the topmost levels the former location of the Mirror Palace itself was commemorated by a metal plaque that now only offered a view of shipping container. So these MOMS still ended up she was the kind of person who actually read the cards in museums. Sophie ducked out early to grabber Nintendo switch from the car as she headed back through the main courtyard. She saw something very strange. Sophie had already been let down by the courtyards appearance when they arrived in the solid film Priyanka, Chopra dance through the large open areas with colored sand India's singing sweetly about how her love at finally returned to her. Let there is no Priyanka this muted courtyard. Only, very small boy trust in traditional garments. She wondered if he was some kind of plant. Until he burst into flames. Fire licked the white fabric as the boy skins fizzled and melted his mouth gaped wide as he wailed somehow he was standing upright through what was clearly overwhelming pain. Sophie rushed forward to extinguish the flames but she ran right through him leaving only the sensation of searing heat of feeling like running your fingertip over candle. Confused Sophie Call For help her mother and the rest of the tour group rushed in. By the time they arrived. All. That was left to the boy. Was Ash on the ground. Welcome to haunted places apart cast original I'm Greg Poulsen. Every Thursday I take you to the scariest serious te most haunted real places on earth. You can find all episodes of haunted places for free on spotify. And every Tuesday make sure to check out urban legends. These special episodes of haunted places are available exclusively on spotify. This week join me on a supernatural journey to India's Shani Wata an early eighteenth century fortified palace built to house some of the Murata. Empire's greatest warriors and discover why to this. Day. It's Coming up, we'll begin our journey into the historic fort. A. On the western side of the Indian subcontinent, there is a city called Puna with an estimated population of seven million people. It's the eighth largest population center in India. As the informational technology capital of the country known as the Oxford of the East due to many universities and technical schools scattered throughout the city. At the near center of the city on the Bank of the Muto River is a majestic eighteenth century fort called Shawnee war water. was home to some of India's greatest warriors and politicians as well as some of its most dangerous betrayals. The death and destruction tied to the fort has left behind shadows Phantom pushes and pulls and disembodied voices crying out for help. These spirits are the last remnants of the Fort's storied history as a series of fires have ravaged the building itself. In order to understand the loss experienced by both these spirits and the culture they came from one has to die far back into Indian history. If South Asia can be defined by anyone conflict. It's the region's ongoing religious wars between Hindus and Muslims long before the British and Portuguese arrived and exacerbated these problems the countries we now know as India and Pakistan were divided into smaller kingdoms who fought for religious and cultural dominance. During, most of the eighteenth century, the Indian subcontinent was dominated by the Mughal empire. Muslim. With its origins in modern day, bekker's can. In seventeen twenty the head of the Murata Empire appointed a twenty year old warrior named Bagio belong to succeed his father in the role of prime minister or pay Schwa-. Balji raw was determined to fight his way from Poona to Delhi in order to expel the moguls and claim all of the Indian Subcontinent Taza State. It. Is Nineteen Year career as a PATUA. He never lost a battle. As, his grew so did the power of the Pay Schwab US eventually superseding kings they were expected to serve in terms of power and influence. Ten years into his campaign to expand the Miranda Empire. Mogae row began building a seven story fortified palace called SCHONE WAR WADA or Saturday fort in seventeen thirty it was completed in seventeen thirty two and would serve as the seat of the patients power until European imperial powers forced them into decline when he wasn't in the field Balji row stayed with his wife, Kashi Pie and their sons at Shawnee War Wada the garden. So the Ford provided an idyllic place for children to play and the many halls of the palace were lot in the region for their decor. This included both intricate teak finishing San wall-paintings of the Ramona and the Mahabharata it is at this point that the historical record gets controversial. Body row married Mustang any the daughter of the Rajput King Shot Sal and his Persian Muslim concubine. Unheard of for both Hindu and Muslim rulers to take multiple wives. However. mustangs ties, Islam Islam, and the lack of official approval from both body Rows Family Yen Kashi by presented personal and political issues. Some claim that the marriage was a political match meant to thank podgy raw for saving the Rajput Kingdom. But legend has it that body route fell in love with the princess after she broke into his tent in men's clothing to ask him for military aid. The story says that podgy row gave Donnie a dagger perhaps not realizing that doing so was a sign of marriage in Rajput Culture. Whatever the truth was? Followed her new husband Ashani Wada or she faced a chilly reception from her new in laws. Macci rows mother and brother refused to acknowledge her and body row ended up having to build a separate residents for her. Believe it or not. This period was in many ways the most peaceful era and Shinawatra's domestic history. Kashi was shy but her husband podgy row told her he liked her that way. It was as though they had a secret world, all their own. No one got to see the playful side if his wife but him no one else would know her talent at weaving beautiful stories. Life was hard when he was away 'cause she would practice her dancing at your crafts. She would gossip with her sisters and help her mother-in-law. But generally, all was quiet until Baiji. Ron returned when they reunited he would sweep her up in hugs and kisses and senator giggling around their apartments with Choi. Then, he went away again and after a while. She began to see things. Warriors bathed in blood headless children women covered in Ash at screaming. They walked the halls of the WADA wailing without sound before disappearing again. Abelson nervy better husbands conquests were necessarily bloody. Kashi was a practical woman, their steps she could take to the spirits to rest, but she would need her husband's participation. Kasey rehearsed what she would say about. How she would sound rational like someone who should be believed and helped. But before she could seek assistance, he returned with another wife. Must Donnie was a beautiful Rosh peut princess and a warrior herself if the rumors were true. But was shy, how could she compete? She met her mother-in-law do the talking her husband's family directed enough poison astonished to kill a Cobra while Kashi steeled yourself for a difficult conversation with her husband. She told botchy round that she didn't mindless tiny. She was a kind girl if almost stubbornly naive thinking her mother-in-law except her but it was the spirits, the boots that worried her. She tried to methods provided by the priests she invoked Lord Krishna and Ganesh CI Burnt Turmeric and left out steel and iron and water goes supposed fear all of them. But the spirits didn't seem troubled sometimes even appeared in the small fountains around the compound Kashi wondered aloud at the problem was that the spirits were Muslim perhaps their gods were not as helpful to nonbelievers Balji around laughed at her and Copter Cheek. funnily, the arrival of his warrior wife had clearly upset her more than she would admit Kashi stamped her foot he wasn't listening to her if Must Donnie made her husband happy she could bear it but she couldn't bear these spirits wandering through the house they would frighten their son's. Balji route asked if their sons had seen the coasts 'cause she admitted that fortunately they had not. Mogae row told her that they were only nightmares. He would lie down with her tonight Tim they would get to the bottom of things. 'cause she lay awake as Bauchi snored waiting for the spirits to come but child came first teetering about without his head. She squeezed forearm trying to rouse him. But he did not win. But child settled at the foot of her bed neck tilted slightly to the side as if studying her with is that were long gone conscious breathing became shallow. She tugged on body rows arm again still he did not wake then came the soldier blood clinging to his arm and close glistening Crimson in the night. His Armor Clinton he raised his sword it's swept out like a flexible read swirling at a circle until returning to rest 'cause she pushed her husband hard. But he merely rollover. Next came a woman, her head covered caked with black cash from head to toe. Only the whites of her eyes glinted darkness. Kashi begged her husband to wake the ghosts crept closer and closer lowering their faces to hers. Coffee Gasp and ran from the bed her nightgown fluttering behind her. She stopped short when she reached the hallway trying to take comfortable night from the small. Lance. The quarter was deserted. She took a moment to catch your breath. No need to be the pay Schwab brave wife when nobody was around. But she wasn't alone from long. A. Woman appeared at the end of the hallway dressed in white flowing fabric her long dark hair spread over her shoulders. She was regal and unearthly. 'cause she had never seen this spirit before she hoped it was a heroic spirit or God herself. Perhaps the mother God is poverty had come to save her marriage. But as the woman drew closer. Conscious breath caught in her throat. It was must danny. Qazis cheeks were hot is she didn't want to show weakness around her rival, but must danny looked frightened as she was. Kashi asked her what was wrong the great warrior Princess Breath was quick. She stammered out the word. Ghosts. Kashi embraced her and told her that she could see them too. They held each other a long time each knowing the great warrior could not see the dead he left behind, but they did and in the sharing. They could find peace. There are no historical records to show what Kashi by thought her husband's second wife but she later race must johnny and Bobby Ross Son after masonic staff. If nothing else, it seems her perception of the new woman was more forgiving than body arouse mother. Body. Browse rain was a rousing success but his sudden death from a fever at thirty nine shocked his family and kingdom. It would be an omen of things to come violence and early death awaited many of his descendants and the pay Schwab would fall within one hundred years. His descendants would never reach his glory or his body count. Up Next, the story of the Murata patient was gets even bloodier. Pi, it's Greg. Park cast has a brand new series. Sure to become your next podcast obsession. It's called medical murders and exposes a dark and disturbing diagnosis that not every doctor wants to extend. Your Life. Every Wednesday medical murders introduces you to the worst. 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Head to simplisafe dot com slash haunted, and get a free HD camera that simply safe dot com slash haunted to make sure they know that our show sent you. Now back to the story. SHAWNEE WAR WADA an eighteenth century four in palace on the western side of India was built by one of the greatest generals. The country has ever seen botchy route the first. Though. The fort was truly glorious. The violent legacy of its builder would echo along its walls as the years wore on leaving a lasting supernatural impression following g raw the first sudden death at thirty nine, his son biology body row also known as Nana Saheb ruled for twenty one years. During his reign, he continued to expand and enhance Shawnee war. Including additional gates, bastions and other fortifications. But the Golden Age didn't last but not a saw heads oldest son was killed in battle. So rule eventually pass to the pay, Schwab second son must have row the first the new Schwab faced war on several fronts including from his own uncle. Ragoonath row Ragoonath row was under house arrest under suspicion of treason when Mata the I died of Tuberculosis H twenty-seven this left Nana Saheb third son Dorion row to ascend the PATUA thrown. But neuron raw was seventeen years old when his brother died. Ragunath Rao was appointed as region until Ryan row came of age in the next year. New Ryan Ross. Soon, heard rumors that is uncle was planning to depose him. He placed him under house arrest as soon as he was able and the threat seemed to be contained, but the young patient wall was mistaken. Flower petals rained from the sky, the clash of cymbals and tinkling. Bells. Shots of the old and young the smell of jasmine build the air standing above all were large sculptures of the Great Elephant. God It was a day of celebration. The water had never looked so beautiful. Intricate, patterns of colored sand covered the floor the faithful walking on art as they celebrated Lord. Ganesh New Ryan raw was overwhelmed by the joy around him. You almost managed to forget his anxieties about being a new ruler and that he'd locked his uncle away for treating. But there was nothing to be done. If you couldn't respect the pace law, he would have to observe the festival on his own from within his securely locked chambers. The king wandered through the crowd delighting the bright is of the children around him. One small boy wave to him a cousin of his you recognize the boy from the Royal Hall. Peeking. From behind his mother's hip. The little boy was running through the throng when he should be walking. But now Ryan didn't blame him. There was something about running seemed much more in the spirit of things than solemn prayers. He had never experienced the true freedom of childhood. He'd spent his life learning about military campaigns in laws rather than playing pretend. Just this once he wanted to play. So the pay Schwab did what no other pay Schwab would he locked mischievous is with the kid then he began to chase him. Ryan raw raced across the courtyard weaving through the crowd to follow his laughing causing it felt like freedom or just a moment neuron Rawood would reclaim the childhood never had the crowd started to thin as the child darted through various corridors. Contest no one knew the water a better than the Ryan Russillo after all the Patua quickly managed to find the right shortcut to send his cousin straight towards him. He hid behind a pillar then listen for those small footsteps against the floor. When they find the approached, he jumped out of his hiding spot and scoop the kid into his arms the child laughed, and then he stopped abruptly. Confused Neuron replaced him on the ground. The second child small feet touched the floor he was off running again. Doreen Romantic. Chase him but he felt a hand on his shoulder. He spun around clutching the Hilt of his sword. Instinctively. But he wasn't the only one armed a group of Rajastan soldiers surrounded him blades raised three Ryan rows mind world as he tried to think of what offense he could have given the Rajdhani rulers to send their warriors to his palace. They were meant to be allies. His thoughts are interrupted as one of the men finally spoke. He said one word it was a name one that Ryan row had known since he was small when their family tie only meant to bond of friendship and duty. The name of his uncle. Guna throw. What are the blades sliced Gash into his cheek? He thought back to his uncle's lessons. So each choice should be made with as much deliberation as possible new Ryan row hadn't listened he had acted quickly, but rashly, he'd let his uncle get words to his allies. Now, he was surrounded by assassins. He did not cry out rulers only yelled battle. He. Closed his eyes taking a deep breath centering himself. The guards repeated his uncle's name in unison chanting almost like an incantation. The Ryan Ralph felt the click of their blades pressed into skin a cruel necklace of metal keeping him from moving the Ryan Rod considered calling for his guards about the festivities were too loud. The crash of the symbols and the noise of the crowd would drown out any hope of rescue. There was one more option though new Ryan round didn't want to take it. He would appear week it was better to die at the end of the blade than be marked as a coward for the rest of your life. He was only eighteen. These walls had been his only home. He barely had the chance to travel across Maharashtra or a continuous grandfather's flight to Delhi. He hadn't even figured out how he would leave his mark on his people. He didn't want to surrender to his uncle such weakness wants displayed was never truly hidden again. Was it worth living? It couldn't be pay Schwa-. Perhaps. He really was just a boy like uncle always said, he hadn't truly lived yet. How could he make such a decision? Defeat tasted like hot blooded violent his mouth Narain Orion Ross swallowed he shut his eyes and the soldiers he could free regatta throw this instant. He heard the rattling of chains had his plea worked perhaps the soldiers had moved ahead to begin to lift the chains that bound his uncle's door. Verein Rob promise that he would free regatta th-row and his family just as soon as they put away their swords, one of the soldiers laughed. Ryan refuse to acknowledge it. For Guna throw was family. He would forgive the Ryan Ralph acting foolishly he could be reasonable. He'd put aside aspirations to power in order to repel invaders before. The chains rattled again, his calls were being answered blades bit ever. So slightly into a skin. In between ragged breaths to row told them to wait ragoonath row was coming. They said, they didn't hear anything. Nothing could save new Ryan Round now. They had been told to kill him ragoonath rows orders. But that didn't make sense such avert violence had never been part of the power struggle and Shawnee war. WADA. They were descended from the Great Balji raw they fought with honor. The soldiers did not care. The Ryan. Ross, green for his uncle as the blades pierced his skin. Blood, flowing down his neck and chest the rush of pain that flooded this system forced him onto his knees. The swords bet slightly but they did not give the Ryan Ross War. He saw guna th row through his hayes of tears. Is Former regent was strolling up to him chains broken as if by. Magic. The Ryan Ross. Scream for the guards to stop. Ragunath row was here he was here he would tell them it was a mistake. To guards turn, but they didn't see anyone. Ryan raw pointed with one shaking finger he begged for them to acknowledge Guna, th rows presents. The man was free of his chains. This could all and now. But the man in Regal Dress trolled towards him. dorion realized Kim been mistaken. Is had never been that tall or well built. You wear the armor of Bauchi row but never filled it. No one could. Their ancestor cast a shadow of greatness over the forty built. There was no mistaking this. This was botchy row the great general the great ruler returned from the grave to witness to Ryan browse shame the guards did not acknowledge his presence. Somehow. This was worse that his death either dying before his greatest hero or realizing the vision before him was a lie. Both suggested he was too weak to serve as pay. Schwab, the soldiers lowered their blades from his neck to his chest. The Ryan raw tried to plead his case one more time. Is Words were drowned out by the cold ruthless bite of metal as the sword slid through his chest. Botchy rows gaze never wavered. As his grandson bled out onto the floor, he turned on his heel. And walked away. During the Ganesh festival of seventeen seventy, three a group of guards loyal to Regina throw made their way into Shawnee. War Wada legend surrounding the incidents say that Guna th row sent them a message to hold new Ryan row to prevent him from escaping. The story says that we're GONNA rows, wife Ninety by who was also imprisoned with him intercepted the message and changed the word hold to kill. This was easy as the difference between Holden Kill in David Nagamori, the script used to write in Muratti is only one letter when the young pace while realized the danger he ran for Regina, throws residents within the palace calling Khakamada bought SPA or Save me we will never know if we're gonNA throw did not hear his nephew or if he simply did not care. To this day visitors at Shawnee War Wada report that they can hear the eighteen year old PATUA begging his family for help his screams carrying through the halls on the wind. Coming up. We'll discover that there is more than one way to die in Shana. Water. Casper's Labor Day sale is here get ten percents off your entire order now through September fourteenth with Code Comfort. Offer Expires September Fourteenth Twenty Twenty at eleven fifty, nine PM Pacific Time excludes the element matches bundles sense sale items limit one per customer and order lease see Casper Dot com slash terms for additional terms and conditions. This episode is brought to you by health spot. You have a lot of great ideas ideas to reach new audiences, create better content and improve your systems, and you understand that you need to move quickly on these ideas to create the best possible experience for your customers and grow your business. So it's time to leave that clunky complex and time-consuming cms in the past where it belongs an upgrade to cms. Hub No more waiting days for an update feeling like you're site is outdated or worrying about security cms hub from hub spot has all the features you need built right in. So developers and marketers can work in harmony. So if you're next great idea involves having an engaging dynamic and secure website. Let's cms hub take the pain out of managing your software so you can get back to what you do best. Customers learn more about cms hub at hubs spot, dot, com slash spotify. Now back to the story One of the most notable deaths in the halls of Shawny Wada was no ryan row with third grandson of Mogae route. The first he was killed by his uncle Ragoonath rouse hired men on August thirtieth seventeen, seventy three in an attempted coup. derain Ross assassins carried him through one of Shawa, WADA's five gates or watch and cremated him by the Moola River in the dead of night. The southgate. The assassins used was once called jumbled Wada than was used by the WADA's concubines after the pay Schwab murder, it became known as the Ryan. Skate. The potential succession to the pay Schwab was in crisis the Ryan rows murderous uncle was technically the next in line but the late was wife Ganga by was pregnant providing potential air that would block his claim her supporters spirited her away from court to keep her safe from reprisal she gave birth to her and neuron. Ross son. So why Mata Frau on April Eighteenth Seventeenth seventy four. A group of Neuron rows advisors formed a council to protect the pace whilst interest while waiting for. So why to come age this council was headed by Nana vs a master politician who was called the Murata Machiavelli by the invading Europeans and invade they did. The encroachment of the East India Trading Company into Mirada territory ignited several wars and the pace was power remained at risk for almost all of the wise childhood. He would come age in an era of crisis. It would be his job to decide when and how his people would resist. British influence. At least. It should have been. So I'm out of round never knew his smother. He had heard the name, the Ryan Raw many times but the man remained a mystery to him his father had been murdered before he was born his birth was inauspicious. It was supposed to be a time for fanfare trumpets and professionals on elephants but his mother had screamed in pain and anguish and kept screaming long after he'd left her. So. Why had grown up afraid of his regent not a Fatma vs Nana was a shrewd leader but a smile was too large a tiger waiting at the jungle. The rest of the council reassured Sawai that not only meant harm to their enemies to repel the Europeans and captured Delhi. But. So I didn't believe them. His father had been killed at the hands of the man who led for him. There was nothing to stop non from killing Sawai to hold onto his power. So I knew this somehow even before he learned how to read. At night, he could hear the sounds of cannons and the screams for vengeance. Occasionally, he heard the cries of his father. So why wanted revenge he wanted to fight the assassins had taken his father from him. Surely. Nero. Would have been a good father to him. He wouldn't have feared him the way he feared Nana. But Nana. Let's Hawaii take his place as Patua with little complaint he merely asked to stay on as a trusted adviser which so I could not refuse though not could pressure him. So why was the real descent into body row? The people would rise up if anyone hurt him. From. The is essentially onward. So I was plagued by nightmares, swords clashed and chains rattled in his dreams. So why would wake in a sweat certain that blades around his neck? But. On the night of his nineteenth birthday, the dreams of fear and helplessness burned away a golden presence filled the darkest edges of his mind. His fear was gone. At he had a new purpose. Nana had wanted to change the murata scape do connections with the British but so why was not interested in making ties with the country across the water? His focus was on Deli on bringing his father and grandfather's dream to life. Sometimes. He swore he could feel them beside him telling him to create the greatest Hindu state the world had ever seen. But there were rumblings of unrest in the water whispers behind his back people did not share. So Why's vision they faced enough war from the invaders why did the young Patua need to seek it out truthfully? So I could not fully explain why he was compelled to this caused. It went beyond wanting to prove himself to his father. It was as if there was another force working alongside him, encouraging him down his path. He could feel their next to him as he walked the perimeter of the Wata the gardens word full blue water rippled through the Lotus Fountain at the very center. It was the only blessing data carried over from Sawai birth. It was built in his honor and he loved to look at it. He felt a gentle hand on his shoulder as he got lost in the movement of the water. So I reached up to catch it. But he only felt air. He had never known his father. He didn't know how tall he was or the weight of his grip. But somehow he knew that his father was here that they were one of the same a guard called wise name and the intangible wait Anish D- is momentary peace no more. There was always so much work to do to keep things running sometimes he wished for a simpler life one where his father was still alive. A voice in his head told him that his father could come back. So I stopped walking. He couldn't feel his father's presence anymore. But the voice was still there telling him that a little sacrifice would be all took to restore things. He could hear the fountain as though he were right next to it. The repetitive sound of the water was soothing. You wanted to wash himself in it and take refuge from a hot summer day. If he climbed to the water, he could wash everything away. Perhaps even his own existence. So why paused? that. Wasn't a thought he normally had. The voice agreed with him. It wasn't like Sawai at all, but it's the why wanted his father to return? He would have to step into the water and let the gods decide what came next. His Path was clear. He told us written knew that he'd like to bathe in the phone and headed up the steps to the ramparts. The guards approached puzzled and concerned. So why paid them? No Mind they were confused the fountain was in another garden had his father's gate one of the guards who knew him from when he was small called out to him. So, why unsheathe his sword in held it up to the man's chest he reminded the guard that it was not his job to question the decisions of the Patua. The guard agreed but still tried to protest. So. Why struck him with the Pommel sending the man stumbling back? So, why would not be stopped by his own guards? You could never trust a hired man anyway hired men killed his father. So why climbed higher and higher? He did not remember the garden being so far removed. The air here smelled more of brick dust that flowers, but he could see the bubbling fountain floating above him. What a pleasant thing to build a garden in the air Is Father must have loved him very much to give him such a gift. So why climbed until his legs ached he was so close now a soft breeze blew the hair from his face. He felt serene. The Fountain was almost within reach. The world would begin a new as he bathed. He felt his father step up to meet him. So, why did not dare turn his head in case the sudden movement scared his ancestor away. He could feel the man. Even if he couldn't see him. They stood together on the WADA's. Taking, in the silence. The Ryan while whispered that he was ready to take over for so why he would protect him from the night Peres as he had in the past. He only needed to bathe in the waters. It would all wash away. So, why not it? He was ready he could not manage this without his help. NONA was too good at convincing the others that the British would take care of them. So why and his father knew pedder. Water Splash, the fountain. It looked. So inviting ready for Sawai declines himself and come away with a sense of renewed purpose. So why removed his shoes the world shifted around him? He was no longer in the garden he was standing on top of the water. The land stretched out for miles in front of him. Guards below cautious. So why to turn back around? So. Why shook his head? The Fountain returned only a few steps out of reach now. He felt the pressure of his father's hands against shoulder. So why apologized for taking his time? He took one step. And felt the scrape a brick hundred feet he looked down to see grass. Which version was real? So I, took another step the pont was. So close, he could taste the water against his tongue he stepped again. But it wasn't water that greeted him. It was air. He was falling from the safety of the water. He felt the wind rushing around him. People were screaming time seemed to standstill. The shrinking figure of neuron row smiled up at him from the top of the water. So. Why hit the ground? The. Last thing he saw. The spikes on the front. Gate. So. Why Mater proud died by suicide in seventeen ninety, five at the age of twenty one is ghost has been reported to appear in the Wada's ramparts just above his father's gate where he fell to his tragic death. But there's another sadder legend tied to the young pay Schwab. That's why tried to drown himself in the Buildings Most Opulent Fountain of Fountain built to entertain him. A toddler. So. Why's mental health history is lost to time rumors swirled buddy was hoping to defy advisor a of. Just before his death but his true mindset is a mystery that will likely never be solved. We do know that. So why was succeeded by the son of his great uncle ragoonath row who styled himself as Balji raw the second. The second Balji raw wasn't nearly as popular as the first thanks to the rumors of his parents role in the PATUA assassinations. He would eventually be deposed only regaining his office by signing a treaty with the British in eighteen to. The Glorious Reign of the PATUA had begun with the botchy row and would end with one as well. The entire Murata Empire surrendered to the British by eighteen eighteen. Shahu water itself was wracked by a series of fires beginning in seventeen ninety one wearing away at the fourth, most impressive architectural features bit by bit. In Eighteen, twenty, eight, an unexplained fire burned the entirety of the ports living at reception spaces to the ground. The inferno was reported to a burn for a whole week before the damage could be controlled time and colonial neglect did their worst ashes scorch marks are still visible on the walls Dawson's claimed that the disembodied running footsteps and dark silhouettes, other remains of the fires many victims. The two thousand fifteen release of a big budget. Bollywood retelling of the love story of Balji Rowan Tani has created renewed interest in Shawnee War Wada. Tourists finally appeared to be returning to the storage site even if it's greatest architectural marvels are long gone. But when a structure is built for war, what remains when its original builders pass on Is there anything beyond the screams in the night and the dancing shadows? The local government set up a light and sound show to play from the massive fort to bring some life to the darkness. 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Shawnee Thornton Hardy - Autism, Neurodiversity and Yoga

The Flow Artists Podcast

58:21 min | 4 months ago

Shawnee Thornton Hardy - Autism, Neurodiversity and Yoga

"My name is Ron and this is the flow artist podcast. Every episode we speak with inspiring movers, fingers and teachers about how they find the flow and much much more my co host Joel Stern I would like to out of these wisdom traditions, Yoga and mindfulness from India and Asia we also wished to honor the traditional custodians of the land with this podcast is recorded. The were people of the Kulin Nation I hope you're well, we're back from outbreak. It's been a busy few weeks. I'll talk about their a little later but joe and I are really excited about the guests we have coming up as well as our guest today. This episode features conversation between Myself Co host, Joe Joe and Shawnee Bolton Heidi Shawny defied Yoga Therapist Educational Behavioral Consultant, and the author of avenues for autism in special needs. Shawnee specializes with working with. Niro. Diverse children and adults, and we're pretty excited to speak with on this topic is just one of the aspects of Yoga we've started to learn more about. Joy have just started doing accessible yoga training with juvenile, Hayman and other amazing teachers where loving learning from experts in this field. Where so passionate about and also. A chance to connect to global community with still in lockdown, and it's nice to have something positive to focus on. As. I mentioned earlier, we have been busy working on projects including one that we've just launched thrive north side. It's not one hundred percent related to yoga but is the way that we can help support independent businesses in our local community where sharing stories of local businesses and the people behind them, creating a directory of support services and sharing articles about sustainability, digital marketing, and more. This is made possible with grant from Arab Council, and if you're based in this area, we would love to hear from you. You can find us on Instagram facebook and via new website thrive northside DOT com only link to all of these out nights. This episode brought to you by our sponsor Yoga Australia registering teachers and training courses to ensure that everyone in Australia has access to Quality Yoga tasers. Or. Let's get into our conversation with the Shawnee Daunton Heidi. All Right Sean, thank you so much for catching up today. It's marvelous to get the chance to speak with the pets we could start with you telling us a little bit about your background and where you grew up. I WANNA. Say thank you so much for having me on your podcast is giving me an opportunity to share. I have an interesting story behind my background how I grew up I actually grew up in the mountains in Montana. In a little round house with my mother, my father and my two brothers. With, no city or running water so They're unique experience unique way of growing up just surrounded by nature. and. Lived in that. Home in the mountains of Montana until I was about thirteen. So. Really found a deep connection to nature and deep connection to the outdoors through my experience growing up that way. And was yoga also applauded that what you discover your Galeta. I discover. Yoga. Until later on actually I would say that that I I to say, yes, Yoga was a part of it because there's so many elements of of Yoga and not just the physical of Yoga. I think that deep connection to the world around us as is also an essential part of Yoga. Actually didn't find the practice of Yoga until later on in my career and leader on into adulthood when I was living in San Diego and was the mother is going through a lot of difficult transitions in life. And had experience a lot of illness and a lot of anxiety and. Went. Through a lot of trauma a child. And a lot of. Illness and disease manifested through I. Think those experiences that I had as a child and So I actually was referred to yoga by physical therapist for a back injury for Thurston intense back pain was going through and then took my first yoga class and that was just really The beginning of it all with taking that first class and and just noticing experiencing and feeling into my body and just feeling a sense of peace for for that period of time. That was how I found yoga. How Yoga pound me? Wow. So it sounds like from from that early childhood does like the beauty of connecting with night share and just being in that wonderful natural environment really. That felt like something you re connected with when he began doing yoga in your light life but also. Yoga was a tool to help you process like some of the hard times and some of the trauma. I'm wondering what drew ye to working with Davis children because I can already feel if he seems that might be unfolding there as well. Yeah I think. You know I think it's interesting because it's difficult to say that there's one. One thing that drew me to working with. You know neuro diverse children and adults. I think really my path and all of these merging pass kind of brought me into this onto this one path that I'm on now but. I think my experiences I had as a child and as a young teen and some of the challenges and traumas that I went through. There was always this innate desire within me to work with children and to be a teacher in some capacity. Used to line up my porcelain dolls along the wall and and teach them lessons and remember Levin to read stories to my younger brother and just having this knowing that I would be a teacher. From an early age that was really never a question for me in terms of what I wanted to do in my life. But my path in working with children with diverse needs happened when I was living in Boston. I. Moved to Boston when I was seventeen and was on my own pretty much when I was about thirteen years old but. Decided to leave my small town in moved to Boston and. I had a job as a preschool assistant. and. I always speak of this young boy's name was Austin because he really was one of my first teachers or even gurus if you WANNA call him because he back then that was years in decades ago was no more than twenty years ago that I was working as a preschool assistant and there was very little understanding or or education around autism. And there was a young boy named Austin. My program food just had some unique. Ways of interacting with the world around him. He struggled with social skills. He struggled with communication and an struggled with self regulation and. There was just a connection in bonds that we had with other and I really wanted to find ways to support him in to help him. Right. He had a single mom as a mother that I felt really drawn to and connected to as well. And he really truly is that the the person that brought me onto this path and gave me the passion and desire to want to to learn more. At such a beautiful story and I guess what we should do now is just A tick relate what the term neuro. Actually encompasses because autism is just one aspect, right? Yes it is one aspect and really. What diversity is just really a variation. In. The human brain regarding sociability regarding learning attention communication. Sensory processing and other mental functions. So really it's just a diverse brains. It's diverse ways in which our brains learn diverse ways in which our brains navigate the world. and. So you know there's there are references to neuro diversity or diverse sprains, typical brains. and. Really what I have found in my my many years in, it's almost going on. Three decades knee having worked with children. And adults with no neuro diverse springs that we all tend to be not diverse in the way that we take in the world we all in different ways. and. Neural diversity really it's about celebrating that our brains our brains are different in the way that they learn rather than thinking that they need to be fixed or that there's some type of cure that we need to find that it's more about embracing diversity and embracing the ways in which reigns. Learn and navigate the world in different ways. And that just seems like what Yoga is in terms of the body and in terms of the brain, just learning about acids learning about how we owe hiking information and how we moved through the Welsh. Yeah and that's I think why I became so passionate about weeding in my many years of experience and passion of working with. Children and adults of diverse needs and abilities. And we integrating Yoga because I found in my own experience thought that was such. A big part of my path was learning so much about myself and learning so much about my own. Thinking and behavior patterns in my own nervous system and the way it responded to different triggers and stressors and the different ways I learned and Yoga. Really was a a window into that for me. And I really wanted to share that with the children not I was working with at the time. Thought that it would be a wonderful. Complementary tool really in in the other many of the other approaches that I used as an educator in its behavior specialist. And so yeah, it's just a beautiful blends of integrating yoga with neuro for sprains because it's so much about just accepting ourselves, accepting our our our strength, our differences, and realizing recognizing that we are whole and perfect just the way that we are rather than. Feeling that we have to be we fix ourselves that we need to change. It's more about embracing that whole. I, think. Such a beautiful message in such a beautiful message to have shed with year at a really young age when probably a lot of these kids are going to have appointment syncing what a specialists and doing tests and doing all these things that makes them feel more different just to get that message that we're all really unique and we're all hall as we already. I guess within that are you sharing some practices teaching these kids that can be really helpful to help them navigate the world to help with self-regulation would you like to go into a little bit more of what you share eating your classes end how the kids find it helpful. Yeah, there's so many ways that using yoga as. kind of a tool or support for self-regulation. So many different ways that it can. Be Helpful but I think some of the primary ways that yoga is supported as. One by just getting children to be connected to their bodies. We know we're learning so much more about trauma. We're learning so much about more about stress and how when we are in a heightened state of of stressor when we'd may be experienced significant traumas and I do look at many of these children is having had experience trauma in their life they're navigating world that they're very sensitive to. That in a on a social level, maybe they don't feel accepted Ed's, and so they have their own level of trauma that they may have experienced and so. The foundation is really helping them to get into and connected to their bodies. So the I just body awareness. And getting a sense of embodiment of. I'm here. Here's my body that says, this is me I'm I'm here in this space. Also, many people with newer diverse brains can really struggle with sensory processing or sensory integration and have heightened sensitivity to. Sensory Stimuli internal or external or have. Maybe not even be able to feel those sensory experiences so they can be hyper or or hypo under over responsive. And so yo, the can be a wonderful way to kind of teach them how to be the pilot of their own planes and really learn how to regulate or down regulate their nervous systems. Tune into what's going on internally, just building that interception and that awareness of what are the the sensation of feeling internally, and we know that self awareness is the foundation of self-regulation rate. So we I have to have that self awareness that connection that that capacity or ability to tune in, and then we can learn how to regulate. We can learn how to up regulate or down regulate. So I work a lot with the nervous children's nervous systems, oliver, nervous systems or different. In the way, we navigate the world's. And it's really about. The way that I think about it is it's so much about just empowerment getting children to be able to connect to their own internal sensations, highlight their own planes and be able to develop healthy boundaries around their bodies end. Their brains and in the ways they navigate the world. So using a lot of different reading strategies, movement strategies, movement that's empowering to them and and that can be different for each individual person. Right so it doesn't necessarily mean that every single. Specific Austin I would provide an empower an internal felt sense of being empowered but just giving them to tune into that and really feel into now what what types of poses are breathing strategies feel good to them or empowering to them or help them to up regulator down regulate depending on where they are in their nervous systems. Sorry knowing that in the room, you've got all these different individuals and as you're saying, some of the might beginning Tony much sensory input. Some of them might be not really connecting with some senses. Had you navigate that as a tate shy in the class to kind of even structures that a clear enough for kids to in a knowing that everyone's gotTa really different sensory experience going on. Their practices that generally seem to resonate with everyone or as part of the teaching journey just finding these individual wise that different people can connect to this practice whilst you have enough of a collective hall that it just doesn't become really confusing for everyone. Yeah. That's a great question and always the challenge isn't it with with. I think teaching any yoga class that we are trying to meet the needs of of anyone that shows up in what I always say even in my trainings that I lead is thought we can't meet every need of every child, but we can meet one need of every child and so when I have a group of children in front of me, what I try to look at is, what is the what? Is a need that I could meet through the this sequence through these different breathing strategies. What is a way that I can support the whole group in in the approach that I'm teaching or in the sequences that I choose or at the pace that I'm teaching and so always into consideration each individual that showing up, and then trying to find a way that I can make it meaningful for the whole group. And sometimes it's it's really beneficial to do more one to one when you have children that might need a little more extra tension or you may need to get to know them a little more to understand their needs, and so it's a combination I think of looking more on the individual level, and then also the collective because the socialization is such an important part of getting these kids in classes together. This is a big area that so many. Children with neuro diverse brings. It's it's really a struggle and oftentimes stay they might miss out on more of those social opportunities and so as important as it is to look at the individual. The collective is just as important as well. And is code self love and acceptance will say something that you might we've into your classes. Yeah. I would say that's actually the foundation is really every class is. Again just going back to the foundation of Yoga is is. This recognition and understanding that we are all whole perfect and then also really helping children to see that they have a purpose in this world that we are all here we all have a purpose and you know that they are their lives are meaningful that they're they're meaningful that they're important and so many of the children I've worked with over the years might tell them that they're my teachers they teach me so much about. My own self and about the world around me, and so a lot of it is really about helping children to tap into that south self-empowerment, build up their self esteem, their self confidence, and really teach to their strengths knows. So many of these children throughout their lives, their their weaknesses or their. Areas in which they're not like other people their differences are so often pointed out that it's just a lot about talking about how their differences are really wonderful and how. They have a rule to plan this world. And that's really the foundation of of my teaching in anything that I do to help children to really yes. He'll feel love for themselves and to see see their purpose. Such beautiful message at Sei beautiful and it just everything that you're saying really comes back to like Oh. This is just the message. This is what Yager is all of us and I think that I saw you had a statement about it was about Niro diversity and about how. Everything that he lynn working with the population that you work with is absolutely applicable to the wider population because we're all Niro diverse and. What you might see in your classes might beat the volume turned up on of those particular challenges in particular struggles but it's also kind of pat of being a human being and just cheating into by what makes us different, what makes us unique and how that can be a strength as well as. Struggle in line. I agree and I think I, think so. I think for so many years. At the focus has been sort of. Put us in a you know put people in a box than and get us to sort of be these cookie cutter people and I think realizing so much more that our differences are what make this world, a beautiful place and Many people with Noor diverse brains have contributed so much to our society and to the growth of our society. And I just think that Ya? It's it's it's really embracing. Everyone's differences when anyone comes into a yoga class, it's it's recognizing that we're all different and really trying to steer away from that idea that we need to. Look a certain way or we need to be a certain way. It's more about how can we experience this in our own bodies and and find what really works for us really tune into what, what, what serves us the most and what helps us to grow, and what helps us to tap more deeply into who are as human beings. Such a beautiful message I guess they There are some challenges with working with this population like a friend of mine works in disability was narrative is kids and she gets huge at work quite a bit like an that's a challenging part of job. Had He navigate dealing with behavioral challenges and things like violence, which is probably a uncontrollable outburst at the time Like not something that that child would do deliberately but also is not acceptable in your class or in society in general like how do you navigate that? How do you navigate that feeling of helping the child few hall and complete while also being relief them on important boundaries with them and not escalating that situation Yeah. Will I think a lot of it is? About how how you set up your classes in in the first place. I'm a behavior specialist. So that's my that's my foundation in my work that I've done over the years is really working with children with be the most. And in the school district here in San Diego and aggressive behaviors and other really challenging behaviors. The first thing that I think is just about being proactive. If you are having classes that you gather information in advance if you're teaching. Children with diverse needs that it's really important in impacting a him side, which is non harming her yourself, and also the the child that might be coming to your class in the other children is that you gather information in advance and know whether or not that child is is really. Prepared to be in a group class or if it's better to just offer some individual sessions and develop a relationship with the child where they seal more of a sense of connection felt sense of safety with you in the learn some poses some breathing and they and they build up a sense of self confidence and self esteem before you. Just place them into a group setting if that's something that is anxiety provoking for them. Or challenging for them, and so I think a lot of it is about. Really. Setting. Them Up for success. And so oftentimes I always gather information in advance if I'm if I'm teaching a class with children with diverse and that's that is a question I ask is about Aggressive behaviors and so it's not about wanting to. Keep that child out of of being able to participate. It's more about helping them to have a sense of success. Because you don't want to retire the come into a class and for them to that experience a negative experience in the classic. If it's something that you could maybe create more of a as a safe container around at the beginning and then integrate them into the group setting after you develop more of a relationship with a child and so much of behavior is about our own. Our own regulation, we are the CO regulators and so building not foundation of of a safety and trust and a tune-in. Is Really Helpful. So knowing that information in an advance and really. Having a good idea of whether or not that child is able to be more of a group setting or if it's better to start more on an individual basis. And then some of the strategies that I put into place means so much of it is about really teaching to their strengths and. Finding those things that they are most interested in maybe even teaching to their interests, many children with diverse brains oftentimes. You find a topic that they're interested in and teach to that topic, and that can really engage them and keep them part of the group. Trying to focus on the. The positive behaviors or the. Behaviors thought are supportive to them. Rather than focusing all the energy on the behaviors that might be unexpected. So there's it's a really deep topic, the topic on behavior I would say that it's a lot about scope of practice as well. If you're a person that's used to working with children who have more challenging behaviors. And you feel sense of confidence and being able to to find successful approaches in the class that's different than if you're person going into teaching Yoga class and you don't have any background or knowledge around how to best support a child who might have more challenging behaviors. So a lot of it about is about education and knowledge and training, and really gathering those tools before just delving into teaching a class with with children who might have behaviors because you really want to set that child at for success you also want to set yourself up for success as well as a teacher, right? Absolutely Yeah I'm curious how has awareness around your diversity and autism evolve since you began doing this work? Yeah. Oh, it's evolved. Significantly and I think I get asked this question so often in terms of. Again asked many questions about my my thoughts about the prevalence of autism and the increase in numbers and what I would say mostly, what I've seen has has evolved and changed is. Our awareness around autism. And because we have more awareness because we have more early intervention or more. Understanding of how to diagnose a child with autism an there's more awareness around it. So of course, the prevalence is going to go up in that sense right? If we don't have awareness twenty years ago. But we don't have the correct ways of of. A really assessing child's for autism then we're not gonNA have the same same amount of prevalence as we do now where it's more. Yeah it's more. It's something that is definitely part as early childhood intervention. I also think there's a lot of awareness just in general in society around autism we have a lot more voices of adults with autism or I wanted I wanted to name this that. Some individuals with autism like to be referred to as. An adult with autism or child with autism and some individuals with autism should be referred to as autistic like an autistic adult. So I just want to name that right now because I think that's really important that we honor that. That we honor that. Different people like to be referred to in different ways, and so if I if I say an adult with autism, it's just for. The use of conversation, but they might want to also be referred to as an autistic adult. So that's important clarification than I wanted to make. And I think that there's more media around it. There's more television shows where they're including people with autism. There's a sesame street character of a of a young girl with autism to help educate other children about them. And so there's just a lot more in our mainstream media. There's a lot more understanding in the education system. There's a lot more understanding in the medical system OFA child's apparent brings her child in and they're having some challenges that they assess them. So I think that there's yeah, it's grown so much because. People tend to have more awareness around it. Sorry I'm just curious as a particular reason that people prefer the distinction. You mean in terms of people with autism yes. Yeah. In and so you know how the fortunate opportunity of being able to develop relationships with adults with autism and to really you know I think that's so important that. To prevent ourselves from kind of moving into that direction of evil ism that we really honor how others want to be referred to in terms or disability or their Noor diversity and so many. Adults on the spectrum have communicated that. Autism is part of who they are. It's not. Something that they carry with them or that they they don't have with them at all times. It's really part of their their whole being of who they are. and. So they like to watch it's important for them to be referred to as autistic rather than a person with autism and you know I think in disability world community. People prefer different ways of being referred to in terms of a person with a disability or disabled person. So I think it's matter of preference in it's important that we we ask that and that we honor that no matter. What our history is our background is I think oftentimes as educators were taught to speak person first language, which would be a child with autism but there are many people in the autistic community or the autism community that that prefer to be referred to as as autistic individual. Ron here just talking about out patriarch page paycheck as a way that you can help support the podcast for as little as one dollars. A month hiatus get access to extra special content as well as the listing on our website. Shoutout on the podcast we just head out episode with Marie Be Ryan transcribed thanks to the support of Patchy on members. So if you'd like to help us with a small monthly donation, just go to patriarch dot com slash flow out of podcast and join the fun. If you'd like to support us in other ways, you can share the SIPASEUTH on social media, subscribe to us on Apple podcasts or spotify or just reach out and latest. Thoughts on this or anything else or at least get back to our conversation with. Shawnee. Actually. Just watch the TV show love on the spectrum, which was a really great example of that because what would you do? You have thoughts I oh, I just love. No, I love that show. Yeah I I watched it as well and it was it was a great. It's a great show just showing the challenges of of. New People on the spectrum may face in terms of relationships in developing relationships with others and So. It was a good a good perspective I think into that. Absolutely and I like. Seeing people's language around how they self identify with something that I really noticed in that Shari as well and It was just a great example of what you've been talking about with Niro diversity how these things that. These differences that we all have really shape as a human being in shape offering adding to the world and like they're out gifts but they also what Mike Mike. Mike at Passage three life more challenging and I think it's just sorry beautiful that you're connecting with people at a really young age and just. Giving them some more tools and similar tools for self understanding and self regulation to that can draw from through their whole lives and I think everyone I know who is really good into yoga kind of. Say things like, Oh, I, wish I knew about this when I was a teenager or I, wish I knew about this kid on. Track to see a whole life. KNOB. -solutely and I think that the earlier we get children connected to yoga and more in tune to their bodies and more connected to. Like I was talking about their interception connection to their internal sensations, you know we can help children ten have more self agency right and you know children are. They are a community that really is. Not often given a lot of power, right? And often their boundaries are quite often crossing in particular children who have disabilities her children who are neuro diverse. And so it's really important that we're teaching children needs these things on and I say the same thing I had I known or had these practices when I was young, there's a lot of research out there. That is growing on the benefits of yoga. And Mindfulness for for children in you. There's not a tremendous amount of research on for children with autism or neuro diverse brains, but there are a few studies out there but there's growing research and we know we know from our own experience how supportive it can be in our own lives. So we can teach children these tools early on imagine. Imagine. I think some of the challenges that they might be able to navigate with more ease and it's just so much about helping children build resilience and capacity because we know we can't keep. Children from suffering we know suffering a part of life. It's more about helping them to build that capacity and teaching them about their own in the. Internal resilience that they have within themselves. Think these practices released support that. Absolutely and find that. Generally respected and people are referred to us through the Wadi the wider medical system and the education system as being a helpful intervention are helpful support system or is rising awareness of this whole sorry part of your mission. Why I think it's a combination of both seeing that yoga is being embraced tremendously by professionals in the field who work with children facts. I am so blessed to get to connect with pediatric PT's and occupational therapists and speech therapists on. netflix mental. Health practitioners. Nurses. Immune I've had people from all backgrounds who work with children coming to my trainings with a desire to just have more complementary therapies a desire to bring some different approaches to children to help them. Again I think the main focus behind it as building that resiliency helping them to. Learn how to be more regulated and so many people that come to the training of course have experienced yoga and their own lives. But I have many people who come who've never experienced yoga just have a very strong interest in finding other modalities and one of the things I love about Yoga. Is that it's not goal-oriented in so many therapies a child has a goal and they do these practices or these sessions where they're. They're engaging and more of a kind of goal oriented practice but with Yoga children are meeting so many. So many. Milestones and our building. So many a building in so many gaps in their development through just a natural state of play, and that's what I find to just be. So intriguing wonderful about teaching yoga. So have people really from so many different backgrounds that are are interested in integrating this into their own practices whenever that might be. So I think there's a great deal of interest but I also, that is part of my mission is bringing more awareness. And ways in which it can be integrated into so many different therapeutic. Practices and modalities. So that's that's a lot of what my trainings are. It's really about empowering people to see how they can weave that into their work that they do with children. And I asked this leads into your other leg because you're not just a yoga teacher, your the founder of us knows for him and special needs and founder and director of Yoga therapy. The youth said if -CATION program which same like fulltime jobs in. A always have such a big vision to create these foundations training programs for teaches or is it just something that evolved over time as you saw the age? I I start with saying that I'm just a dreamer. Am, I just have a lot of passion in my heart and. I think it's just a natural progression it's never been. A. Lot of. There's never been a question behind any direction that I've gone, and I really think that that's part of Dharma's part of my my Dharma and my purpose in this life. I know not everyone is so fortunate to be able to kind of with with such ease. Move on that path. But I really feel that every experience I've had in my life every challenge of restructuring every triumphed has really led me in this in this direction. It's Two decades of of working as an education behavior specialists with the children, diverse needs, and and my yoga training and my passion for learning more about Yoga and and neuro science, and really really having a foundation in understanding around not as well. That's just brought. Me brought me on this path I. was teaching actually full-time. and was a single mom and. Really. Felt like I I needed to do something different I needed to do something more I wanted to. Expand. This. Outside of just being a small classroom, I wanted to be able to. Actually helped this momentum grow. Actually wrote my book while I was teaching in my program because the strategies I was using were so successful I did my thesis project on the effects of Yoga N- attention on task behavior. For children with autism adhd in so I was doing I was actually collecting data and. And And just seeing the benefits and affected how for the children that was my motivation to write my book, and then I wrote my book and I saw how excited people were about that wanting to learn more. And I worked as a consultant with parents and other educators, and so it was just natural for me to teach adults as well and I always knew I wanted to be a teacher doesn't matter what capacity I'm teaching I just love teaching. and. So that's that's really how this all came about. It was just really natural progression. I did have to take a giant leap and left a seventeen year career with benefits and. A consistent paycheck and kind of had to move out of my own way and do it. But I just felt this really strong desire and now I'm so grateful because. Do. Get to have a wider impact I get to teach share with. Adults who bring this into their community and I think that's the the greatest way to help this expand as by passing those tools onto others. So they can bring it into their own community and share it with. The families and children in their area. I'm really grateful and somehow it was just a natural progression in that way. That sounds served beautiful and hearing you talk about it it sounds like it just unfolded. But I, imagine it was a lot of hard work and because so much of what you do is about self regulation and Modeling, that self hit I I don't think you can do the work that you do if he likes Charlotte up flustered because you just didn't like answering emails or not slept because he'd been writing your book or looking at your own kids are you must have really had to draw on self-regulation. Planning. And Life. Skills to. Bring all of this to fruition while I'm always going back to that and I have to say that. I am still working on all of those things just like everyone else in terms of of balancing my life and managing time wisely, and but I really had a vision of how I wanted to create my life. How I wanted to live my life wanted I wanted what I wanted to spend my energy doing and I spent at least two years meditating on that and visualizing manifesting imagining. So it was a lot of a lot of intention. That put into that. So it wasn't just an overnight leap. There was a lot of a lot of me released sitting with. and seeing how I felt about it but it's a lot of work. Definitely is is a lot of work but I feel like when you do work at his. From your heart, it's it. It doesn't feel the same. There's there's not the same level of I think exhaustion that you get from maybe doing something that's not not as in alignment with your your heart. So. But. Yeah it's hard work. It's still continues to be hard work to own your own business to and to. Yeah stay regulated through everything it's I. Think the biggest challenge is being staying regulated. I've had a lot of actually really significant trauma happened in the last four years. And so it's it's always coming back to my own practice. Coming back to myself because I think we can't. We can't do this work for not taking the time for self care and our own self reflection and our own. Sitting with our own feelings and and and learning how to be with our own selves right. So you know that's something I say so much in in the trainings is that we need to be doing our own practice whatever that might be know someone's practice of Yoga, might not be physical awesome practice it may be. Gardening. It may be. Spending time reading it may be spending time in nature whatever it might be that we fill our cup and. So that is something that I definitely continue to come back to. It's not always easy and I'm certainly not to have it mastered that. I'm working on it. It's a work in progress. And that's just brought to mind something else that we would just briefly chatting about before we started the interview how much life is changed now that we're living through a global pandemic and how all of this work had to Gary, on line, and for me personally, I find teaching online a lot more tiring and energetically dining than I did find teaching in person and. I'm teaching adults sorry. I can only imagine what it would be like with all of the extra sense relies that you would bring into a physical practice that you'd be i. all of these are the tools that you can draw from a now you're teaching from screen which he lied to talk a little bit how your work and your life and your teaching has changed. Yeah I mean I would say I'm not as much teaching group classes right now because my focus is so much more on trainings and so I have not been having a pivots so much with teaching children. Through, group classes although I have. Done some recordings and classes for different organizations and that type of thing to share. I do private sessions and it's definitely more challenging and that sense to navigate. Technology. It's I was just talking before we started the interview about really feeling. That connection to the residents of room and the people or the person in front of you and and being able to be in the same space with each other. So it's it's a big adjustment but. I think that if we learn the right tools and supports in working with Neuro diverse grains, children with diverse needs if we use those same tools and supports and whether it's the technology or in person not. Dot. is going to help us to navigate. Having having more success in those sessions than. If we just kind of try to go into zoom session without using I think when I'm referring to is. Using visuals using props and supports that support their bodies. Using, whatever type of languaging queuing they need in terms of what their communication level is your weaving all of those things into your online teaching just like you would do in person and that's really why develops might toolkit that I created is. Because it's a visual tool and there are so many people with diverse springs where they're very visual thinkers and visual learners. So, as long as we apply those same tools and those same. Approaches to our online teaching. I don't think it's ever going to be the same. I think that's part of you know what a lot of us have been experiences. This was kind of working to our own emotions about things changing in that way. We can ever be the same to be online versus in person I think it's just a different experience and. Something that we have to embrace it in that way. Now with my online teaching in my trainings it's definitely been something that I've had to adjust to I have the same. I call it zoom. Zoom, hangover. There's a different. Level Energy, that that comes from that but but I think once we surrender ourselves to the fact that this is kind of our new a right now be. We can learn tools to to have that same residents resonance in that same connection in two minutes. Just in a different way. And have the obtain any positives that have come out of moving a lot of your teaching online? I would say the the biggest positive is just the accessibility. There are so many people around the world that are interested in learning these tools and. Thanked me and said, you know I've wanted to come to your training for so many years have been watching this training, but it's cost a lot of money to travel or to you have to you know someone's going in person you have to wait for them to come to wherever you are. So in terms of my trainings, I finally accessibility is just it's huge and then accessibility for children there are a lot of children and families. Who, are in very rural areas or whose families are just overwhelmed by taking their child into to another appointment or another meeting or driving to another. Studying. So there's so many wonderful opportunities to embrace technology in a sense in being able to offer these resources to families and children. Who may otherwise not be able to access that you have many children or adults with disabilities where it's Were may have some autoimmune challenges or Children who have difficulty going into new settings. Where you can teach from the comfort of their home and eliminate a lot of those barriers or challenges that they might say. Yeah that is a Greis benefit, and we will definitely link to your book and to your. Is it say l. m. m. will calm calm. Calm. That's yes that that the meaning for that is the see is center. The is assessed. How am feeling? The Ala's let myself breathe the AMAS move my body and the other end this make positive choices. So it's just getting children to. Connect to reading and moving and. And tuning in and then really. Knowing that that can help them make positive choices for themselves around that. So that's that's the meaning behind that. In case you're curious. So beautiful. So. Yes I would love the. APP for if you share that resources, it's a great resource and was created is really the the desire for. Parents and other professions work with children to have some tools to now to just bring in some more approaches and more complementary approach. In helping children with self-regulation and body awareness and sensory integration all those great things. An all those things that would just come up in every yoga class anyway even if you aren't particularly seeking out to work with this population, the thing that I've just noticed coming back again and again is that we're all neuro diverse like these old tools that we can learn and draw from and just enriches as as a cha and as a human being because we have more resources ourselves as well. Absolutely I do believe that it's really are our responsibility as a society and you know if we are yoga teachers, we ate we take on a certain level of responsibility to. To make the people that come in our classes, you know help them to be seen heard loved and valued and not just that's been that's my foundation of. Of, you know anytime I teach a class whether it's children or adults that everyone that shows up and they see the seal loved heard scene and valued. So I think it's our responsibility to learn these tools. You have people say I don't work with children with special needs but I'm interested in it and I say well, you if you haven't yet you will and it's important for you to have the knowledge and understanding of how to help them steal included. It. So yeah, I think it's yoga teachers. That's But. Our responsibility and I think as a society to provide the support sin accommodations to help people with neuro diverse brains thrive in this world. So. I just nearing back what you said I think it's really important that we learn these tools. And so I'm really interested to hear about your creative prices both with writing your book and creating the Toolkit Kit. I. Now you're an educator as well, but I imagine as yoga tapes. So much of what you do would be physical with your body and drawing on all of the different sensory inputs. Was it a bit of a challenge taking that back just to the written form or was that something that kind of floyd site naturally since you're sorry immersed in this work Again I think. So much of assist I've I love writing so I've always written since I was a child. So writing was a natural thing to me and I as an educator and working in special education I always had to create my own resources. was like you when you work in that environment you, there's no resources out there. There's no textbooks. There's no curriculum designed to meet all the needs of the children that you work with and so. I've just I've created curriculum really my whole career. And so I think it was just a natural. Progression for me to feel sensitive of. Confidence in the ability to do that just because it's something that I've been doing for so many years. And I. I've always had this belief as an educator if it's not available to you if the resources isn't there than you just have to create it yourself and so. That's that's really I think it came out of a need for for me in a sense to create some curriculum that was in alignment with what I was teaching, which was basically that we should be providing visual tools supports an auditory and tactile, and all of these things that help children feel more sense of embodiment because we have kids at learn. So many different ways that we really should be providing those supports that. Help them feel successful and help them to understand and process what we're teaching. So it was a really natural progression. It wasn't easy like I said, I was working fulltime building this business. I was a single mom on I was writing a book on the site. And you spare time. Spare time. So yeah. Now, when I work on a project, I think back to that may think okay it's you have nothing to complain about just think about that time you got through that period of time in your life when you actually wrote a book during that time. So yeah. It's my love of love creating curriculum I. Love Writing I, love sharing. Knowledge and I. Just Love the connection that comes from that. So. He was just a natural again, just part of the journey. And I. I always had a dream of writing a book and being an author so. I wanted to make that dream come true and it was on topic that was really close to my heart. So. Felt fairly natural to be able to write it actually it was more because based on the experiences that I had with with the children over the years. So it really came from. A lot of experience in having applied those strategies than my own setting I was working in. Beautiful. I've just got one more question and we save it for the end of every episode. So I'm just wondering if you could distill everything that you've learnt and everything that you teach down to one core lesson, what do you think that one thing would be? I well, I worry comes to mind and I. Think it's just compassion. Compassion. For ourselves and compassion for other people. I think when we come from that Lens. It just. Opens our mind in our hearts to. Our differences, human beings and. Just helps us feel more connected to other people and. I think it's important for us to recognize differences because for many people, that's how they identifies being different, but it's also important for us to. To, just have an understanding that we're all were all humans. We're all connected in some way, and if we can come from compassionate lanes, I think it just changes. Changes. Your. Whole Outlook. In the world and changes relationships with other people changes how we feel about ourselves. So I would say that's probably the deepest. And Life lesson or word or whatever. You might say that that applies to to my life and my work. They think when we come when we come from compassionately can't we can't judge other people affording a place of compassion. and. We can't gender selves a place of compassion as well. So, it's constantly working with our own compassion for ourselves than not that brings about that compassion for other people you're out on A. Beautiful Beautiful, practice to embrace no matter what we're doing in our lives and thank you so much for sharing that beautiful message and sharing everything that you shared today and all the wonderful work that you do in the world really loved hearing about it and speaking to year. Is the anything that you wanted to share with Olea close off. Now I just WanNa say thank you again for letting me share and her allowing me to to. Speak About my work and. Also, I think just the message that. Anyone can do Yoga I. think that's the main message is that it's it's. There's a lot of preconceived ideas about out there but if we share these tools these. Supports in teach to neuro diverse brains. We can make it accessible to anyone. With my last message absolitely. Thank you so much for having me on. Average. Yeah. Thank you so much. And you guys take care there in. Australia's one of my favourite countries. That I. Love it I love the people I. Love the land to love everything about it so. Wishing you all well. Hopefully, they'll be a time when you can come back and visit I i. now I I know I mean I imagining envisioning dreaming of all the places that I want to travel take travel back to so. I hope you enjoyed our conversation with the Shawnee. We Buy Lind so much and we are really inspired by her approach. For our next episode, we're speaking with daisy from feel free yoga, daisy aquarium, Odi woman on Google and Sydney and Teachers Queer, and Trans and by talks yoga classes online. INSTAGRAM profile Disea- bossy betty is fun colorful and welcoming to all his daisy look. Episode in two weeks time now things song is by robots by go so and as used with permission get his music from go so dot band came dot com. Thank you so much for listening Joan I. Really appreciate you spending your precious with US Idaho nowy big big love.

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La 'Timidezza'  Spesso una Scusa per Non Agire

Comunicazione Emozionale con Ema

03:30 min | Last month

La 'Timidezza' Spesso una Scusa per Non Agire

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Radio Diary: How One Cafe Maintains Community Amid LA's COVID Surge

On Point with Tom Ashbrook | Podcasts

05:32 min | 4 d ago

Radio Diary: How One Cafe Maintains Community Amid LA's COVID Surge

"Support for on point and the following message. Come from kyko do you own or rent your home. Fortunately geico makes it easy to bundle your home and car insurance. It's a good thing too. Because having a home is hard work go to geico dot com. Get a quote and see how much you could save magnet taco. Bardy today on point. We talked about los angeles county and the kovic pandemic over the weekend. Ellie county became the first county in the united states to hit more than one million cova cases since the start of the pandemic of course had a terrible toll people's health and their communities and the economy as well so we turned back to shawnee. He's owner of niebuhr design interiors and flower boy project a cafe and flower shop in venice california because we wanted to get a sense about how his life and his his business has changed and he told us that business has dropped significantly but the flower boy project. The cafe is still open following safety protocols. We have one gentleman in particular who is wheelchair bound and had a surfing accident and it was just like someone who just sort of passed all the time and always said hello but now we were in this moment of. Hey how are you taking the time to have a deeper connection and sean told us. The cafe actually has become a comforting community hub. Even as the corona virus continues to spread. And it's touching. His employees lives touching his family's life and really the neighborhood itself. I mean we are sort of like a copy shop where it's something you go to every day. Pickup flowers Sort of very neighborhood community. And i think people have been extremely supportive and happy to see almost like a. You know a staple that they've been able to come back to. Everyone has been very mindful of the regulations and cautious with with the people that are coming in and getting coffee and flowers. I do know that everyone is paying attention to everyone in this very supportive and checking in especially because i think everyone knows someone who has kobe or is one degree away from someone who is going through covert. There's another friend employees. Who currently has it. He feels a bit like shame. It was interesting that he kept saying that he was sorry and he did say that he didn't quite believe covert and i said the how could you know how could you not in hindsight now sort of looking back that he felt foolish. Perhaps that he didn't believe in that now he has it and he feels ashamed that he didn't fully understand the gravity of the pandemic in at how much we were all at risk to bring it home. It's we have a. We've had a babysitter. She's very much in the. I don't believe i did this. I believe in cunanan. Believe in all of these things. And i don't believe in covert. I've been struggling whether or not. Should laurie still come and watch the kids. But i don't want to not talk to me. She says trump's going to be in president. Don't worry about that. It's okay i'll make you bet. And she said well you know. I don't have enough money to bet you okay. We'll better dollar that being said. Laurie will call me and say. Hey hardy boyz stock and bond. It's going to be route. This is laurie. We're going to be fine are you. Ok what we currently have now with the bars being closed and restaurants being closed. It's the best thing that could happen. I don't see any any other way forward. I mean in areas that are less affluent. there is a tremendous amount of street activity vendors selling things on the side of the road and still sort of commerce happening because in the other neighborhood center more than middle class and wealthy. You're not having and so you know we can continue to have the less fortunate coming down with the virus. But i think most people can't see that like half of the population is completely isolated and the other half of the populations trying to figure out how to get to some semblance of of reality in their day to day. Life dots problem. So how do you mitigate against. How do you deal with you know to mess. That's shawnee niba owner of need design interiors and flower boy project cafe and flower shop in venice. California he's one of the people that we talked to in an hour. Long conversation about the coronavirus surge. That's going on in l. a. county right now. You might want to check out that conversation to. It's in our podcast. I made me talk this is.

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Le Assurde Credenze dell'Uomo Sensibile ed Emotivo

Comunicazione Emozionale con Ema

04:20 min | Last month

Le Assurde Credenze dell'Uomo Sensibile ed Emotivo

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I Want You On My Face with Shani Darden

Glowing Up

49:02 min | 2 months ago

I Want You On My Face with Shani Darden

"Hey caroline. Hi esther i'm really really today because we have a gas that we have been trying to look for. I think just about forever and probably part of the reason why we started this podcast to talk to people like this Today's guest is probably the most famous celebrity as She's got her own super chic a Spa or you can go get facials. And she has the most sought after skin care brand she. I've been. I know so much about now. It's to scare her She works with the shay mitchell. She works with Christie teagan jessica alba. All the click really cool. Famous people have not been regular few people in the really cool ones. Welcome to the show shawnee darden. Hey girl really nice. Oh that that was really scott magic hands. She's got enters shawnee herself a statement for having the most beautiful skin in the world. Oh wow thank you. Thank you i have to say yeah true. Also i was i. I was watching a video of you giving facial end. I have not like felt more relaxed by watching ever in my life and i'm so i'm just like i need. That's what i need. It's almost like when you see a commercial for taco bell and you're like oh i feel like that right now is exactly that like i need. I want you on my face a lot. I want you on my face like that. That's great so coming. I feel like in the videos. I've seen of you giving facials. There's a lot of interesting tools happening. I want to say. I've seen like an arab be out at points. That's an oxygen dogs and has blue and red light. It's magical it keeps you young forever it helps to regenerate your cells and then the blue light kills bacteria and read boosts collagen skin. My favorite. I wish i had one at home like your work. Is your part the most famous facialists. That's ever walked the earth and part possibly a witch dabbling in horse. Yeah i get. I people tell me that because like i can make people call me and so i think i do have some powers. Oh i'm so scared of you. It's not even a joke. I'm ready to be like a match. Like five hundred and fifty years old. Like i am that all to girl. I not sorcery. Your an angel is probably the better term for it. it's fine. I like which to. Which is we love. We love h. I have a question for you to get right to it. Because i've been watching you and i found it seems to me like the shawnee dardenne like most important skin care advice out. There is two things. I think. And i want you to tell me if i'm right or wrong. And what else would add it. Seems like sunscreen and retinal jet. Yes to of my favorite. So i try to get everyone on the retinal if you can go on one. Some people can't handle using retinol People with really really sensitive skin but typically most people can so retinal is. What's gonna keep you young. It's gonna keep the wrinkles away It will help to reduce them as well. Pigmentation blemishes boost collagen. The scan and then sunscreen is just so important. The sun sun exposure is what damages are scanned which causes the wrinkles. Causes the sagging everything. So it you can stay out of the sun and wear sunscreen every day. You're you're off to a really good start and You won't have as many of the problems later on in your future. Not of not to get too into the nitty gritty but like what's the optimal retina per week black race. So it just depends on your skin type so the more the better of course but some people just can't tolerate it so it's about finding the right retinol for you. So that's that's why i that's why i created. Both of my retinal is was. Because i used to work for a dermatologist and i was obsessed with retinal because everyone was using like a prescription strength. Retinol and i got to see how amazing it was. And i was working with a few petitions that were in their sixties and they just never age. They didn't have a wrinkle but their skin was so sensitive so it was like. Oh i really wanna make a retinal but the just as effective but not. That won't cause all the irritation. So that's how it all came to me creating my retinal where i became obsessed. Yeah it seems like the word on the street like when i type your name into goal so many things come up about your retinol like it. Just it's like every article is about. How just everyday like another person is swearing by it. It's really crazy. And i want to ask because i'm someone who's been really shy towards retinol like i'm pretty fair pretty sensitive. He's a red was. I'll call it like it is i. You know i i'm gonna have to undermine man i'm happy to send you i. I want to add. That would be amazing. But i want to ask you like what would you say to someone. Who's a little bit. I'm thirty two. Like i'm i'm just a little scared of it but obviously it seems like it's it's the real deal. What would you tell me. I mean everyone's scared of it. In the beginning i think the reason. Why is 'cause people think of retin-a and people using it night when you were in high school in your friends that were breaking out using retin-a and they were peeling looks crazy and i think that's why people are afraid of it But it's really not scary at all even prescription strength. Retinol isn't scary. It's how you use it so you could start with once a week An ad a date each week and use as often as you can tolerate so if you got to three days and you started to get dry then you could just stop there for a while into your skin. Started to acclimate to it. And then you could add more days if your skin could tolerate it so it's actually not scary. Even a prescription prescriptions can make appeal can make you really read and the thing is start with once a week and see how you how you do. You know what i mean that. Yeah that's kind of the key. She saying you can't just jump into it. Man up is what johnny are. Not up and up impulse ought to retinol. Yeah i also. I'll also you both threatened but i'll send you the more gentler form. Which is the text reform in. You can try and just try it once a week and see how you do. I think it's going to be perfect. Okay i'm so excited to like i like i'm growing up like i feel like i'm really life seriously by starting. You haven't even used at once. Did your house more now. it's time it's time for retinal shawny. Are we taking retinal down the neck. Yes and your chats x you say that. Yeah the only thing i can say is like you buy a bottle of retinal. And they're it's they're not cheap so you run out quicker when you don't when when you're just when you're using it everywhere but it's really important. I feel like you'll appreciate this. Shawny so i come from like a super acne family like it's just my birthright my heritage. Everyone my family has acne and my dad will get bulk retin-a and has been getting it from like weird she. I love the s like folk prescription websites and for christmas for years. My dad will give me a whole retin-a love christmas like goal. I loved him but so great. Yeah see and is strong but people can some people can handle it otherwise. Same thing you just have to build a. I'm a different retinol is. It's just quicker to use a prescription is just faster. But then you have the irritation and so then i have a Over the counter retinal and then the next would be a retinal politics which is even more gentle. So it just depends. There's a write off for everyone. The really is only. goldilocks golden. Goldilocks mentality but with retinal. Yeah okay. So i watched one of videos where you gave someone a facial and you talked about a lactic acid peel as kind of being this like perfect glow up treatment for like a red carpet event. You know an eddie s and i was made me curious because again like coming from the perspective. Someone is pretty sensitive like is that. Is that something that like. I should be doing if i like. Have a photo shoot like is. It's not how often what's your. What could you tell me more about that. It's typically once a once a month but you can come in more than that. I have like a lot of people that will come in every couple of weeks or right before an event Lactic acid tends to be more hydrating. So it's really good for all skin types. It's great for someone even with dry skin and they're not going to dry after doing appeal. And what it does is it just removes the dead layer of skin cells on the surface and it just gives you a really nice glow so yes. That's what you definitely want to do. And then you kind of become obsessed because you know your skin starts to look dull over time so once you you get a night's professional appeal then. You're glowing again instantly. Your skin doesn't seem to get dull over time. And i always feeling myself. Oh i'm in the studios to. I'm just always feeling. Is this why you got into being the most famous facialists of all time just to. I just always been obsessed with skin since i was little. I don't know like my calling or something. I it's been going on since it was about eight years old. I mean i didn't know what was my calling. Then i've been making face since i was little. I used to have rashes and always go to the dermatologist. So it's been thing that's been going on for so long So i'm just lucky that i that i actually figured out that. That's what i was supposed to do. Wow and are you guys are open and doing services in the pandemic like what does that look like. now we just spent We open once in a closed and then we can. I don't go in that often but there's two other girls that work Almost every day now because they were they were not working for so long. But i i usually only go in once a week sometimes twice now and when it's all over i'll go more but it's just like hard to like worry about who's being careful. Amy and also fifty mass and shield. Annoy your at home right now. I have to ask your like stunningly gorgeous. I can't get enough of you. What are you doing to stay. Fit kind of a left. Turn question here at home. Fitness routine like i have to ask so i don't normally exercise but now that i'm home i walk. I walk all the time. And then i also have the peleton so i have to be. That's also just to keep my anxiety down. It was a new thing for me. 'cause i'm going crazy in here you know i'm here all the time. I have a two kids. So i just started walking And that's all they do. I'm definitely not at all like there's no part of me that spit but i'm getting exercise. How and the peleton we had just got my my husband actually got it to us and he never uses it and so i just started doing it because it's year and then i don't have to go outside when it's too hot But nothing exciting. I wish i was in the editing like workout person. I want to be but it's so hard. My god i feel so seen and really just like i don't know how people get into it and how to get fit just seems really difficult by walk his life. I'm pretty fanatic about the walk and yeah yeah well. Esther knows. I tried to go by the salma hayek method which is what is probably be s. But there's this one from high she's like actually don't exercise but i know how to hold all the muscles in my body in such a way at twenty four seven. I'm constantly activating muscles. So when i walk. I like fool. Myself into thinking of maximizing were talking in my stomach and like squeezing my ass. I call it. The second monster makes fun of me. I'm gonna to try to do that. I hate that by another time. I'm gonna try. That's so interesting. I'm really gonna try claims that she saw the special trainer that like really teaches you to like i. I can't imagine how tight in your arms. And you're just sitting. 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Like i have a little steamer that i use but otherwise if you don't have a little steamer you could use a wash cloth or just out of the shower and then use an at home peel and then you could do a nice hydrating mask. And that's going to give your skin like a refresh gonna blow a little bit more. You're not going to feel so doll and it just good and it's also good for people that can't afford to get facial the name so there's things you can do at home and also i feel like i feel like i'm not sure now but definitely in the beginning people were really into doing everything by wanted to know how to take care of their skin. Find a routine. I don't know if everyone's still feeling that way now but definitely in the beginning we were all about like what can i do. So it's a good thing to add into your routine. I love that. Because i feel like that's kind of like this. Self care self actualized dream is like it. When i picture myself is the person i wish i was the person like. Eds square of dark chocolate every night for dessert instead of like a piece of pie like that person who also doing this sunday night at home. Fan time yeah like. I've never figured it out. So you're saying like do a little steam cleanse massage. Would even and you can do it whenever you want. I would do it at night. That's just me but like you could do it in the morning. It just depends what you're doing. I wouldn't suggest like peeling your skin in the morning in going outside. But if you're not leaving wine on your it's good to do that. It's good a routine and get on it and this is the time it's the time to do of girls that guava every day or semi. Not like it will. It's my albatross. It's i know. I should use my microcurrent. I'd like a little new face. You know yes. Love them. And i know the answer to the microcurrent and i think i've seen you say this interview has to be consisted. Yes it has to be. It kills me having. I i always forget this but i think it's you're suppose they want you to use it thirty days solid. It could be less. And that's to get your skin to start boosting collagen so after that thirty days and i could be making up thirty days but after that then you can start using it as maintenance. I personally think you can just start using it. You don't need to use it straight every day. I think you can just start using it. Just try to use it three times a three times a week. Try also keep by your bed so easy. 'cause then you have to right right there. You think microcurrent us like over. Let's say you put on your night retinol. You've got to do it on like a like a face mask the like Wake up in the morning. Wash your face and do your microturbine. You make it sound so easy. Listen if you don't want to do any of those things it's fine mid at least have a good skincare routine. I if you don't wanna use a device stay out of the sun have a good. Am pm routine. Use good active users can use a really good vitamin c serum. And then. you're good but just make sure you're doing those things and just remember like if you never used microcurrent would you be fine. Sure if you stay out of the sun and If you stand on the sun and you wear sunscreen no-nonsense breath jerry. I'm a simple person. I don't have a a full. I don't have a twelve step thing. Minus i three things in the morning and three things at night. Maybe for the eye cream but like i keep it pretty simple very simple. I'm very lazy. i'm not lazy with retinol. And i'm not lazy. Something super simple on diverse. yeah. I don't i wouldn't go to sleep with makeup on and i'm on it but i'm definitely not doing fifteen right. There's no reason for simple. Yeah three steps oxygen orb. When needed kidding you can keep it. You can keep it really simple. Stay young forever suzy. Where where do you stand on like. Where do you like all the different lake. The things that a lot of celebrities do of like the clear and brilliant different laser laser. Should i be getting now. So i'm not getting what i'm really bad with the laser thing because lasers i find can be really damaging so it just depends for what you're doing it for a lot of lasers for pigmentation can actually make it worse after you've done them so. I don't think that i'm the best person to talk about it. Because i i have done that. I've had things happen. And i've had bad things happen so i think that you know if you could prevent If you could prevent having to get them done later that would be great There are things skin tightening and things like that that i think some of them do work. But you really wanna make sure you're going to the right person and you definitely want to actually like my thing is is for someone that's getting laser know someone that went to that person and you better see the results wild thing because everyone's doing them and it's i just think you have to be really really careful host on that. I like. i like that a lot. Megan also everything so fast moving now and we always have something new. There's something that's always knew. I've gotten to the point where it's hard for me to even refer people to places because it's like. Oh this is the best thing and then we find out you know a year or two years later that it's a disaster so i think you know i'm into like old school. I think it works like try to keep it as simple as you can telling you all just didn't lay out in the sun and we were careful about that. We would kind of forever this egg flour really. Wow wow on board. I'm so onboard salon. Going on this on sometimes are we own know. I don't know why i go like listen. I go to hawaii. And i lay out on the beach the full day but i'm under an umbrella. How about that. And i wear a hat. Yeah so what sure you can do that. And yeah a little sun is good but like laying out as you get older. You will see and you'll be like why did i do that. And it's so hard to reverse. Sunday image so hard saying sorry Aren't so scared. Hey also like mr are you. It's almost hard for me to focus on what you're saying because your hair is so no rosa beautiful. Like i know is the first thing. I really obsessed with here. You can't be perfect really well. I am so many extensions than it's crazy so doesn't it's not all mine. Sure i paid for it. But i have a hair pro like i like air really loved hair but like i don't want it like i don't know how to do my hair. I can't help anyone with that. But i'm into it into hair play. You could teach us all a few things. I can't teach you about hair. I continue teach you how to buy it to go but and send you to the people that can help you put it in. But i can't like. I don't i don't know how to girl there. Wow okay skin. Your skin question personal question here from me. Your i noticed lately that i have very dark under is so much so that because one is worse than another and like literally i'll be facetime with a guy friend in there like dua black. I and i'm like oh my god this is so bad and i'm just curious is there is there hope. Is there anything besides conceal ler like to help. Reduce that darkness under the is. There are good eye creams. That can tell a lot. But i will tell you. It's typically hereditary entity is tricky and so there is a few things that people do like. I said there are some great eye creams that i love. There's one by cosmetics. That i love. That's an icbm that's really great and it sort of instantly brightens the under eye area. Which i'll i'll i'll send you samples so you can try and then there's another one that i love by is critical that spilled with peptides. It's really raining there. The two that i've found that really make a difference but as far as light changing things. I'm gonna tell you honestly that you it is about good conceal. Her and i wish that i had the answers. And i know that a lot of people use filler under their eyes and basically why they're doing this kind of raised the skin so you can't see it as much i don't think it works but at all and also then you're stuck with filler in your face and i don't think that that's great later on when you get older so i would go the eye cream route but i will say it's just it's one of those things people always say. There's a miracle that i would. I would know. There is a miracle for sure. Yeah yeah but definitely a good eye. Cream is important a fast if you had one piece of like salient advice for people that struggle with hormonal acne. That's it's my cross to bear like a hot tip. What do you tell. Your clients are so for me. It's really about using the right products for your skin type and so people get lost with that. And so you always wanna use products at somebody else's using you should stay away from oils and some people will tell you that they're great. They always caused congestion. I don't care anyone says they always do it. No i can see it on the skin. I always know when a client has gotten into oils. I always know So i would say to stay away from oil. And so you get on a gentle cleanser you're not using your using oil resents on oil free moisturizer then it just depends on your acne. How you're gonna treat it. Like by retinal could were. You mean need retinol and then an acne serum something with like colic salicylic acid or. You might need a prescription. I hear you. But i do think that you can. You can find something that will prevent it. I think you may always break out here and there but you can just about finding the right now. Oils is like ding ding ding. You just hit something in me. I feel like i've been sold. This oil lie oils are good for everyone. Why make them work for you. It's so good for your skin using oils and you've just freed me from this. Print is also they just for me. They just sit on your face. I don't understand it. i've never had an oil. That actually made me feel hydrated. They make me feel globally but not hydrated. And i and i can tell even someone with drier skin. That has like an oily zone. I always know. I just saw client recently. Her skin looks beautiful and covered in black heads. And i knew that she had starting to using oil and she didn't care she was like i like the oil. She's not breaking out. She doesn't normally break out either way and she was like. I know that. I have black heads in my notes but i don't care and i was like great abuse. It 'cause your pores are larger there so you know it's a larger molecule. It's large it's going to go in and it sits in your skull. You don't need to tell us we understand the science for sure. Yeah so i. i'm not a fan. I never but it scares me to like. I would instantly break out. If i use any oil so i don't there might be an oil out there for someone but i i need to see. It never happened because there are oils. That are You know considered non genyk which means they won't count the pores. However i think they all clogged the boars. They might not make you break out. But they're gonna clog report. Do you feel the same way for dry skin folks. I don't for me. i don't. I wouldn't tell someone with dry skin and no not to use oil. If you found an oil and it's working for you i just personally think they just sit on the skin. I don't really think they're giving you much of any hydration. So i think a great moisturizer would be better but i would never say. Don't use that. You know a lot of people like it. They like the way it makes their skin low. And i get that. Yeah a coal each their own on. Yeah do you really believe in and stand behind those like crazy light masks that i'm seeing all my friends really yeah. Led therapy in general. You seem to be like a pretty big. Yeah pretty big big on. I think amazing i sell the dusty mask and i also sell the light stem handhelds and both i think are amazing light stem. It's amazing really. Yeah they're amazing. You just have to put the time. And that's the only difference. I mean one is so much. I mean the desi. Mass is almost two thousand dollars And the light stem hand-held. It's probably two hundred fifty and then there somewhere around there so it's just the reason why the death see would be better. Is that you have to do less work and the hand-held you have to put it three minutes her area so you're doing that all of your face and it's kind of like the new face where people will start they. Stop illeg when you're attacking me right now like well. That who know what the deal people do with the device all devices they start them and then they love it and they talk about how great they look and then they forget. I'm like just put it back at your bedside like they were. Oh what wasn't what. What do they do. New face is like that's microcurrent. So that's Level electric current that is like exercise for your muscles. What led light does is so. There's several different lights but red light is more aging boost college in the skin. So it plumps your skin. It reduces fine lines and wrinkles than blue. Light kills bacteria so for act now so those are the two main lights that everyone uses. How does light do that like i. Don't i thought light is like bad because it's like creating damage So it's infrared light. an led light. And we've been using it forever. Honestly like they use infrared in hospitals. And so we've been using it for so long it's not new. It penetrates deeper into the skin. And it's just that now we have better technology. So it's it's not a new thing it's just now we have the mass the now we have the hand out whereas the old machines were they were just crazy and made a ton of noise. But we've been studying light for so long that it's definitely like not a new scary thing. It's it's not uv it's not uv light so it only improves the skin while what do know when it was used for in hospitals I don't know where they where it's completely us. I know that they use they. Use it for babies with jaundice infrared light. So i mean been used forever. It's like. I said it's a new thing but i'm sure they use it and many different areas and also led light red light and there's also like red light beds they have them in a lot of Doctor's office for people after surgery 'cause it will speed up healing. Yeah it's not like a make believe thing. It's it's real i really i. I love your approach to things. Because don't you feel like she like is no bullshit like knows to not talk up the dumb shit like i just lanos what's real. I'm very very at peace. They'll say good. I know 'cause it's it's scary especially in la. It's scary hair because it's like you don't know what what to trust are believed and i feel that way myself and i've been in i've got like i said i've gotten to the point where it's hard for me to refer people anymore because it's like i don't even know what that new thing you're doing is now like how long is this going to last so i just tried my hardest to give people on the information they need and like i said i've been obsessed with skin for so long. I'm i'm i think i'm doing a great job. I'm forty six years old right now. I've been using retinol since. I was twenty something so and i've never been i. I had a son moment. A little small So and my mom is like. I don't know how old she has. Sixty seven sixty eight and barely has a wrinkle. she's white but she she nabbed najer has been in the sun never and so normally you know with her skin tone she would age. She would age a lot quicker but now we have the same skin. Wow wow so. I just try to give people the information that they need but it is a lot easier than everyone makes it out. Well i mean besides the fact. That is sugar daddy. Two by two thousand dollar light and ask. I'm like plotting key fans in my mind. Just you're you're just gonna keep using your hand held you're going to actually use it and once you're actually using it then you can get the sugar daddy help with the words. You don't need that yet because you're not even using the handheld. I don't deserve deserve the mask yet. Let's move in together and share one shared custody of two thousand dollars mass idea. No not at all support for this podcast comes from. Wg you do you wanna more skilled and effective workforce. 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I really standardized friendship. I love all the posts. And i'm super psyched. We'll tell me about the base shawny darden collab- which i like his looks so cute and cool like we tell us more about it yet so You she had already come out with her Her bag line already started. And i think they just started doing other bags other than like the suitcases and i needed to make travel sizes because people have been asking for so long so i just went to her and i said could we do this in so it was just kind of a kind of made sense because we're friends and We kinda just collaborated on what i needed. And she made it happen and that was it. That's but it was so fun. It's so fun to work with her. 'cause she's just she's just easy very easy non like she's so not l. a. In any way we forget that she's an actress juices like chill. Yeah i totally agree. It's like she is. it's just. I was so intimidated by her. Because of like how big and powerful. She is especially on instagram. Than once i start hanging out with her i was like. Oh my god. She is so normal. Like it's so normal. It's very refreshing Yeah yeah it is refreshing. It's nice to have that. You don't see that and i feel like she's still remain that same person like she's so close to her family. She loves her friends and she's just simple yet. So i didn't realize that the base launch the is your launch also is your launch of travel products. That's exciting yes. Yeah it's so funny. I was just saying that today. When i was in the office i was like i don't have my own like i. When do i get where they are but yet so people have been asking for so long and so yeah we finally I finally have travel sizes. Which is pretty amazing. The retinol is still a large bottle but the other. They're all miniature sizes. I'll send them to you. They're very cute. I'm very proud of how they are. That's why wow she loved. Many's many great. Oh done addicted to me. Horny for many years. I i mean i'll just send you everything then you guys can decide. If you're confused you just email me and then we'll go through it so you're not confused of what you're doing because they feel like there might be some confusion more to send it all to you and you're like where do i start stupid. What blue light was so right. Yeah we'll just we'll go slowly slowly beside for you. I'll make sure that you guys are using the right products. Gosh you're too kind. You guys i feel like i wanna do a show entitled. We've i've never do this with guest shawnee. I feel like you're going to appreciate this product. I got on instagram. Esther youtube so i'm a face i'm i'm not even aside sleeper on like a face smushed sleeper. It's my worst dirtiest face habit. You really can start to see. Like i can feel like that side of my face is gonna start getting fucked up and got targeted a face sleeping pillow. Oh are you able to do it though. I can't i can't make myself trying their look sleeper. It has the events of your face in the divet. So now it's amazing really makes the i can't take a memory and there's big dividend show and like i wake up my faces shoved so deep in there but it's like an undisturbed i'm i'm proud of you. Maybe you should just move onto trying to sleep on your back and said do. I need to train myself. I read this interview with turn ackerman. I think where she's like. I trained myself over many years to sleep on my back. I mean i've been actually trading myself. I'm doing. I'm doing a lot better. Syria gives us a shiny. There's nothing i. Just now. When i wake up i make sure that i go back to it which i never used to be able to fall asleep that way but now i do but i wake i try to seek my back whatever i wake up no matter what face is dug. Deep into the you know i. I don't know how people on their back the whole night. I don't think i'm stamina back the whole night. But i'm now doing it longer like i go to bed on my back baby steps i knew Go ahead sorry no you go ahead. I was just say whitney company. She puts the big. She puts big earphones on says. She can't remark. I know she's genius. That's really smart. Really smart pain whitney coming on. No i think that's so smart. I try that. I have such a heart like falling. Asleep is such a scary. Like hard thing already that i i can't an rules like i have to just do what i do and i'm going to have this much face in. This is going to be what it is. Yes yeah. I don't have any problem falling asleep. It's like take seconds. I just don't persona for you. Just lay down and it's done. i appeal. it's just that. I don't sleep so i wake up alone Oh i to know this. What is shawny. darden's morning coffee or beverage routine. I order starved Starbucks every morning time. Yeah so i have a coffee machine but i don't like it so now. I just do starbucks that. I do a decaf. I don't drink caffeine. 'cause i'm crazy and i would decaf almond milk lante every day of my life. Wow that was thinking of cutting back like it's such a waste of money. But i'm just gonna go with it for a while so funny because like let's be honest i'm gonna be honest. It's going to be honest. i've said three times. The almond milk at starbucks is bad. I love you but it's bad. I respect that for sure. Starbucks starbucks is bad though is an ama- starbucks loyalist as well so like this is a really tough area for me. Like i know they maybe have some kind of questionable labor practices right on the other hand like. I'm gonna use that starbucks app. And i'm gonna hit my four hundred points going to get a free christmas like right. Yeah it's it's a battle. I i've always made my coffee like i have a coffee machine. That's great and you grinded and all of that but that it this changed maybe two months ago. Maybe someone gave me one. I see and then. I just was like oh i think i want that. Every i love that go back can go back to making my office but it just made me happy late. Yeah yes and also. I was doing a lot of juicing before and i just it's too much sugar and so i was like i'm just gonna stick with by decaf so much labor. Yeah yeah clear. Out of like a gritty. i don't wanna do it. So that's that's where i'm at. I'm going to stay this way for a little bit longer. I support it my current starbucks order for any what for all those thousands pupil the same right now esther by the way is it cold brew nitro nitro cold brew with cinnamon. Oat milk foam extra sediment milk foam for me. Were all your disgusting. And i will copy you okay. I feel like we got everything there is to get that we need to get. I don't wanna keep you any longer i will send you. I'm gonna email you both and get your address as i will send you lots of effects leasing. Shawny thank you so much. I've never had no. I'll say you just make sure when you when you get when you get them. Please email me so you just use things. And then they don't work for you and you're like i don't get my butt and it's not working yet. Yeah i don't want you to do that. You're going to email me and then we're going to talk about both of your skin types and then we're gonna make a routine Honey what did we do to design your the coolest person i've ever met in my life. I'm mike. I know i'm favorite thing to do. Make you everything. I'll keep you guys young forever. Yes oh my god. Thank you sean. I'm really excited to get to know you with us. Thank you guys. It was so nice meeting. You both teams. Oh nice meeting you. Think a great night starving. A podcast network.

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Phenomenal Guruji Tech News Episode 12 - Telegram, Pubg Mobile, Jio, Asus, Realme, Swiggy, Zomato

Phenomenal Guruji

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Phenomenal Guruji Tech News Episode 12 - Telegram, Pubg Mobile, Jio, Asus, Realme, Swiggy, Zomato

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2020-10-05 - KSR - Hour 2

KSR

44:02 min | 3 months ago

2020-10-05 - KSR - Hour 2

"You've worked so hard for all the things that have. The salary the status success. With that image, there's a drink. One to one why want to loosen up wanted to take the edge off How do you know what a drink is more than just a drink? We get it. We can help. Karen's grandview program has been helping accomplish people just like you regain their lives. Talk to. Visit Karen Dot org slash grandview. Welcome to the second hour of Kentucky Sports Radio on Talk Radio Tenny. Now here's Joe, back to Sports Radio Bible to five seven, one eighty, this segment is sponsored by court physical therapy. They're proud to be the official Sports Rehab Have Provider High Schools Throughout Kentucky Athletes No sports and exercise can cause pain but it court physical therapy everyday pain should not slow you down our clinicians will help Taylor base to your need sixty locations around the state in clinic Tele Rehab or Rehab at home no doctor referral as needed checkout court dot com. Ko Rt Dot Com Kentucky's all time. Overtime Record Ryan is three and eight. The three wins are Alabama and ninety seven. lsu In oh, seven and eastern in seventeen. So we only do it every ten years. And, only gets the big boys lsu. An eastern Y- Ku that drought we save our best for the big boys three and eight is we're record that's like so that that goes to show it does feel like. It can be frustrating the game that people have written that I think is a good example of sort of a random comeback is when we beat bobby portray no in Arkansas with Randall Cobb do you remember that most most people have left the stadium and with heartline and COBB? We came back that's right. Yes. heartline through the past Randall Cobb I'd forgotten about that I was there in that zone matter of fact, remember is seven. I WANNA say with like four minutes to go and we drove down scored got a three and out and scored again quickly. Yeah I believe that's a good call. Good call. So. I still feel like we've had more painful ones then. I mean it's two three, two, one, four, two, one painful losses to good winds. Phones I did want to note. What did Friday Night Ryan when I went to we had Friday on the show the Jackson County coach who came on here and talked about his game against Shawnee that they played in the West End, the Louisville and I was sitting here when I got back to Louisville Friday and I was like you know what I want to go down there my plan was really to go See the start of it when the team sort of at the beginning watch a little bit and leave. But I went down there and and Shannon you're a little guy. Have you ever been to the area where Shawnee High? School is yeah. I've been there win. I can't remember I'm sure I've been there though in years past. Well, I have not been. Yeah. I, mean. Unless you're going to Shawnee high school I don't know what you'd be doing down there I mean there's just not a lot there. But it's Something over there. Well, there is but not next high school but yes, there is a Shawnee Park over on the if you keep going down there but it's on like thirty four and market or something like that. and I went out there and Ryan. It was a fascinating thing because when I got there, there was almost nobody there i. mean there was Jackson. County. Brought probably forty or fifty fans out of school bus. Mostly I think family members of the players Shawnee had probably. Seventy five people there. But there wasn't very many there. But I went there to watch these two, these two places play, and if you missed show Friday Jackson County is on the edge of Eastern Kentucky is the most Republican County in the state aid is also one of the poorest counties in the state. Shawnee is in the precinct voted for Hillary Clinton more than any precinct in the state, and it is also one of the poorest places in the state. And these two areas besides the fact that both have struggles. Probably have on paper very little in common, but they played this game because Sean. He couldn't find teams to come and play because people were said they were worried about safety. It was one of the best experiences that I've ever had and I mean that. Right for the game, they brought the two teams out to midfield and the coach of Jackson County gave a speech and it was an awesome speech and as I was watching it, I thought to Myself Man I. Wish. America could hear this last quickly started filming it. And you probably at this point have seen it was on my twitter. It's now gone viral I think it's been seen a half million times by now espn contacted me and asked me if they could use it I don't know if have or not or if they will. But I gave permission, we'll see if they do at some point. But. Basically, he got up and said, look the world says we got nothing in common but we do. We're going to show everybody tonight. and. Like I said I planned on staying a few minutes I ended up staying for the whole game. These two schools I think it's fair to say neither are great at football. They mostly lose I. Think Shawny has lost fifty five straight games. Jackson county's record has not been great. But those kids were as into that game as I've ever seen, they were intense. They were passionate close it was competitive. And I was so proud of everyone there. It was senior night at Shawny and as those players would get introduced the Jackson County fans from deepen APPALACHIA got up and cheered every player. At the end of the game after Jackson County had won the Shawnee fans gave them an ovation. When do you see that almost never but they did. And when the game was over at on the field, the two teams hugged each other in a way that's not normal for these kind of things and I watched them have conversations. I listened to these kids from these places. Say We gotta do this again they took a group picture with all of them hugging each other. And I found it to be like one of the most inspiring things. I've been around. As the course of the game went on after I sent out that video I think there were people in Louisville who just wanted to be there because there weren't that many people at the beginning of the game by the end of the game, it looks like the crowd doubled. And when it was over, you know Jackson County had to drive two and a half hours but nobody was really in a hurry. Some local business decided to buy both teams pizza they sat around and ate pizza for a while. And Maybe, my favorite part was the media showed up by the end of the game. And at the end of the game, the media was interviewing these kids and you could see how excited these kids were because these teams are very good. They don't get interviewed very much. And they were in the excitement on their face of even being interviewed by television station. It was just awesome to see and I want to those two coaches from Jackson County from Shawny deserve all the credit in the world I talked to the Shawnee principal they're going to Jackson. County. Next year and they hope to set up a partnership where these two schools will play each other in a lot of sports. As a way to continue to sort of you know interact with each other. oftentimes when you turn on television especially in the last few months, it just feels like we're all at war with each other all the time. But in the real world, I've always believed we have more in common than we don't. And if I was ever wavering on that. Friday night at Shawnee high school was proved that we do. and. I needed that sort of uplift I'll be honest with you and Ryan it was one of the coolest things I've been a part of in a long time. Not just you need it. We we all need it and he's sixteen seventeen, eighteen year old kids. Are showing US life lessons that we can all learn from I. You know we talked about this and the previous two I. I love this story. This is going to be one of my favorite stories in a long time. Don't care about football don't care who wanted to game but what they're showing us these kids from inner. City Louisville and these kids from rural Appalachia Kentucky. Come together and play football. They just WanNa play Football Matt and. All black team and an all white team it doesn't matter they just WanNa play, and so they're teaching us life lessons. We can all learn from and I. I love it and you need to see match video of coach Alex Story Pre game speech because it'll give you chills it's off and if you've seen that video and you didn't see the picture that I sent out after look for that to where all the players are kind of you know their arms around each other for a picture after the game. I hope we can see more of this happening. Eighty dollars the I can't remember who said it. I wish I could remember there's some famous. Quote. That's basically like the cure for prejudice is interaction with each other. And I completely agree with that. and. I watched a man from Jackson County. A Big Dude who was wearing overall. I mean wearing overalls Shannon in West Louisville right and he was standing there with these two African American women and they were having a conversation for a long time. and. I was stayed at Charles Booker now is like that group of people never talk to each I you know what I mean like there's not a scenario but they were laughing and talking to each other for a long period of time and Shannon thought see that's what's got to happen because like that conversation otherwise would never take place. That's really cool to hear. That's not like you said that's not something you see in West? Very often Guy Jackson County Jackson County is all for the most part you know like that just is not something you see and I I just really want to say my appreciation for coach Hallaq and I'm sorry I've forgotten the Name of the coach at Shawnee but he deserves credit as well. The administration's it was just a really cool night and I hope that nationally somebody picks up that story I mean, he's got a lot of play here in Kentucky I hope he gets picked up nationally I I talked yesterday to Scott Van Pelt about it and he was excited about it but he was like I'm off right now. So I hope somebody picks it up because it deserves to be picked up. It's a good model for the rest of the country whose name Jalen. Harrington, is the Shawnee? Sherrington. Yes. co-chaired. Whose Neck Jason Jason Jason. This is a this is baby matt. How're YOU DOING EMMA? Baby how are you? I'm doing good a couple of things I noticed from the game. It's the little things that make the biggest difference now we all know. About the AJ rose and him being the senior that's what really hurts because it lets us know you know you gotta be disciplined. You're a senior and you're supposed to be a leader, but there was another time. Miss. Started the game with a huge drive I mean they ripped off like fifty yards and then we stopped them on like the second down. And Josh Paschal. Starts talking talking about and I'm thinking to myself. This isn't the time brother just ripped off fifty yards next play they get a first down there was another plan, the game where forty four, who made a lot of good tackles fourth on defense. He flicks after stopping somebody at the goal line or not the goal line at the line of scrimmage, but then the next play. Oh. Get the first down. So it's like, okay once the teams plenty to us and you're jogging to the sideline, I understand talk your smack, but we got to be a lot more disciplined. I mean. If we take care of the little things, you know we can salvage the season. That's I'm with you. Completely I appreciate Khan I totally agree with all that we talk too much and accomplish too little I'm all for talking you know there are some people who say talk trash that's just not the world we. Live in now and you can wish it was different, but it is these news go out on the court sometime people are all talking trash. It's fine I'm alright with it. But if you're gonNA talk you gotTa Show Up. You remember a few years ago Ryan Willie dyed his hair blonde and John Cal Perry said if you're GONNA die your hair blond you better play well, right Yep you'd better back up now if you're going to talk like especially our defense, our defense talks a lot more than our office. You're GonNa talk you better play. And we're talking and we're not play and I can't talk anymore. There's a couple of dudes on defense I'll watch talk jamine. Davis played I thought very well if he wants to talk I'm okay with that like you know Clinton Bohannon Marquand McCall thought did a pretty good job at knows if they WANNA talk I'm okay I don't want to hear our secondary say a word Like they should never talk we need to win and they need to get some interception. We haven't created a turnover yet like I want to see us do something right before we start yep it. Yeah and like you said, they were flexing and after they were just given up long plays give up a touchdown two minutes and thirty seconds into the game you better shut your Yap burn stop somebody I, for you say who was the dude was is What I can't pronounce his name, but the do the stop third seventeen. If he wants to talk after that play, I'm okay with that was a heck of a tackle. That was a great tackle. Yeah was but the rest of these guys, what did you have flex and Yap about when you're smoking almost every play? Who Tat who talks trash after a fifty are road. Bosnian, fat. He's the only person I know who does that Assistant to the Regional Manager Slam? With the With the trash talking five, Oh two, five, seven, one eighty at Kyi sports radio here Shannon I. WanNa, can I get an AD in here? You? Sure you can. You give me permission. As man has the relief valve on your water heater failed. Not yet but I'm sure it's going to eventually if it does it'll poor gallons of water into your basement or maybe you'll have an electrical shortage in your office that will cause smoke and water damage or maybe you have a musty odor like Ryan Lemon that indicates you might have a mold problem Ryan. What would you do then? I Call Shannon. No, you know you call sir, pro what would you? She Ain't going to do about it I'll tell pro Shannon doesn't know serve pro dot com they'll come and they'll make it like it never even happened one call to bring your home or business back to his good as news S. E. R. V. P. R. O.. That's one eight, hundred, zero pro. Pro Dot com make it like it never even happened. Don't call Shannon call certapro franchiser independently owned and operated, but it's there for you at serve pro dot com we'll take a break gary. Back. To. Talk About Jones in the crew called the Clark's pump and shop phone line at five, Oh two, five, seven, one, eighty, or one, eight, seven, seven, nine, four, hundred, eighty or just the Kentucky Brandon or tweet of the day by tweeting Matt at Kyi. Sports radio. You're listening to Kentucky Sports Radio on Talk Radio. Back taking sports radio. Seven, seven, two, seven, seven, four, five, two, five, four. Rights, Matt. Don't you think we should have more games where teams from eastern Kentucky play teams from wool I thought about that Ryan I would love to be able to do like some sort of bowl like preseason ballgame to set up three or four of those matchups that'd be really neat something to think about. I. Mean I. Don't know how you do that stuff. I talked about doing one of those sort of Boll Panoramas and then covert hit you know it didn't happen. But that would be a neat thing if you could. Yeah I think it would be awesome. Have A double-header tripleheader. Some some facility it'd be. One year you do it in the mountains when you're doing Louisville, right? Yeah. That'd be great. That'd be neat. Bobby Bowden just tested positive for cove in nineteen ninety years old. So prayers to bobby about by bad was one of my favorites when I was a kid Kentucky football stunk in the nineties and I kind of picked Florida state. Ryan is my second team and I really liked Bobby Bowden. Really Cares Guy Yeah I think most people have respect for him so we wish him well. I do want to give a chef. I can't we have our guy loyal listener. He calls in a low double D, he's in the hospital right now and always listening right now. So we want to give him a little shoutout to hope he's feeling better soon. Yes. Shout out double d you get better soon and we hope to hear from you soon. Rights Matt I was Sad Shannon wasn't here Friday. Does he have a big conspiracy theory about what's going on with the president? Do you have a conspiracy theory feels like you're always a conspiracy theory know what people actually believe that he doesn't have the corona. Virus. Kinds of things I don't think I think it's ridiculous to say he doesn't have I. Think he has it. Of course he has. Yeah he hasn't. So what's the conspiracy theory? I. Think I think they thought you might think something we no no no I think I think that's on the up and up I don't think he would fake that. Yeah I don't either he doesn't like to seem weak. He May. He may fake signing a piece of paper, but he's not going to fake. Been Funny Yeah they did you see that Ryan? They showed him Oh. Yes. Signing. and. It was a sharpie and a blank piece of paper which I liked. Yeah. Yeah I. Thought I saw the. Conspiracy theory out there that he was going to use these experimental drugs and come out you know healthy like, okay. See I told you. We were going to beat this. I am the hero we've got the drugs to be no, we're he'll definitely do that but that's not a conspiracy theory that's just who he is. If he beats this, which I hope he does he will brag about eating. That's what he does I mean that's of course, right? Yeah. Do you think let's make a prediction? Do you think they'll have any more debates? No. No. Can you drive with you? I don't know how you can do it now with. So many of the not just him but his staff everybody around him seem to have had to do a virtual debate where you gotta on. Mute them when they're in the same building. Can you imagine? It would be even easier. You just meet their screen I mean they do it on. It. Don't you think round the Day on his. People get mad if you museum. Bias. Somebody that'd be. Commute I just I know you have a time when your time's up it's an odd I got. Yes. But what if what if somebody interrupts don't interrupt your how you GonNa Interrupt? You don't have a Mike. You're saying, don't turn on their mind until it's their tire you go. ooh interesting. It's not that hard conte on assume that actually could work course it could. I don't know I. Just don't think they'll do I don't know how you do it. Right? I mean, they're saying they're going to have the vice presidential debate this week. Ryan I think that's kind of irresponsible too. Don't you? Yeah I was surprised when he said that just because somebody like I said it's been around the president, but it's not even just that he's next you don't. Like he's next in charge. Yeah. Try You would want to protect him more if he's next in line with thank you would put him in a bunker like if I was in charge of the world. Wouldn't you put Pinson a bunker right now? I'm being dead serious. I'm. Not even kidding. Wouldn't you Shannon? Maybe, he shows up to the debate in a has met suit then. I series until trump is like fine, right? I think I think you have to protect the vice president don't you have to protect them? Yeah. I don't know if you throw them in a bunker necessarily. Him under a room I'm just saying like he has a bubble of sort Scott. WHO's next after that Pelosi but they haven't they haven't done anything with her either. Got Chuck. Grassley like eighty six and like mowing the grass I don't know. I don't know all these people are so old in there pair. Everyone is so old when he young blood in there. Or something. Tom It gets less appealing by. WHAT'S UP TOM Man I never played football and I don't I don't understand the celebration ever. Claims but I gotTA say one thing I hope our staff never does. and that's the turnover chains and. Allman I. First of all, we'd have to get one. We haven't gotten a turnover so there's nothing to do. Yes but the turnover chain I don't know but they had a ole miss had a touchdown chain. See I like you and I disagree on that I think that's got Oh. Was it. At this trophy mentality. But it is. It's a trophy they earn. 'CAUSE THEY GOTTA turn over. Their job. Well I mean you get a I mean you have a job and if you get a bonus, isn't that? Would you say if your boss wanted to give you a bonus don't give me a bonus. It's my job. Sorry I just I just think that's just plain or play. Well I appreciate the call I. Disagree with that. I think those are fun. I didn't think it's funny that old mrs go get the bag. Did you notice that? The Guy who scored go get it no. No the the guy gets turnover gets a bag. It's supposed to be like a bag of money. Trouble for cheating Oh. Yeah. Yeah turnover chain. Overnight, we'll take a break. Thanks for listening to talking. Sports. Talk. To the White, House press secretary just tested positive. Kaley? mcenaney I think. They're all going to get. Yeah I, mean, they don't like they were mask. And I'm not saying they wouldn't have got it. But they're all gonna get it. So maybe they do need to throw him in a bunker. On saying. Look at how many people got it, and it looks like it all came from that one event on that Saturday and have you seen the pictures of that via the? Everybody tested positive and they're all surrounding Mike Pence. have. You seen that like they're all like? have. Basketball mask on and they're all sitting right next to Mike Pence. So if I am worried just about America, you've got to go protect Mike Pence don't you? Family like my pants, but you've got to protect the man you are. Politically Traits a bigger issue than that? That's why like. You. Know I mean I know there's an election coming in. That's unfortunate but like the continuity of government. Is is more important than this election as strange as that sounds to say, but it's the truth because the worst thing that could happen to this country is a vacuum of leadership. So you gotta, go protect him and that picture on they all have it all around him. Here's a decent chance. He might give it a try. You would think that you want to protect him, put him in a bubble somehow because he's our next in line. You bring up the point about the debate his debate on I would not send them to that debate I just I don't know how you do that. But what do I know? I'm not in charge of anything what you think of Jimmy Butler last night. Insane I mean. All of a sudden just decides like, Hey, man I'm going to be Lebron for one night and just everything. I mean like insane forty points how about this only the third player in the modern era to score forty points in NBA finals game and not make a three. Wow realize the other two are, let's say you to or smart who the other two people three point line start in like the seventies who are the other two people since the seventies to score forty points in the NBA final game and not even attempt three. Kareem Kareem is one well done and WHO's the second I want to say Jordan Jordan shot threes. Yes. I thought cream would be harder. You should get the other one. The other one to me is pretty obvious. Magic. Show. Shower yeah everything about shock me check taken either. But the thing about cream shack is that that's not even their games. So like of course, they didn't take thirties but butlers actually perimeter shooter and still scored Forty Ryan without even taking a three. And he hasn't been. countered onto kind of store scoring. Then all of a sudden last night is like, okay look guys. I'm going to step up tonight and take them to win that game with both Bam androgen. That's I mean Kelly Olympic had barely played the whole series. He comes in there and he's draining threes I mean that team I really enjoy watching that team. You talk about a group of people. I don't think they'll win the series I still think Lebron idea with but you talk about dudes who the whole is greater than the sum of the parts of the Miami Heat the perfect example of that. Yeah. No dynamic superstar on that team they played well, Tim Duncan Robinson for crying out loud their starters played. Shane and Dunkin Robinson played in college at a D. three school like. Ranchi. Literally. There's a dude in the NBA finals that went and played at a school like transit. US Don't see that in the NBA maybe a major league baseball, but you don't see maybe. Yeah. But not in the NBA, right I, mean like go watch Transi plays center this year and tell me which of those dudes playing in the NBA. It's an unbelievable story. It is an unbelievable story with these heat and like I said I don't think they'll win. They might win one more game but I think they probably lose in five but it was remarkable that they won that game last night. Now, the baseball divisional series what do they call this divisional series Ds the they they start today we'll play. Let's see the roads Pack I. Don't WanNa hear you. WanNa. Hear it listen they made the playoffs. That's. Mad You Myself Ryan could put three of us up there. We could've scored zero runs in two games we could have done that. I don't have enough I don't have time for. What we need to focus trash-talk last two days he was gone we didn't. What is the head is we have the Yankees play the reins. Who you got Yankees or raise well, I picked the Tampa Bay lightning parents live down there somewhat to pick the raise Tampa raise. Okay. Shane who you got raise. I'm taking the Yankees. You know what I did the other Night Ryan I listened I. Don't think I've talked about this on the Air I listened to the Yankees talk about that. Listen to the radio game the other night you may have the pre-game show because you've talked about it. I don't think was okay Sr.. Told you off the show anyway. Yeah, the Yankees. Color Announcer Shannon is like a seventy year old woman. And she's awesome. How long has she been doing this? She's been doing it since like five, and before that, she was like sort of like their sideline reporter but they car caller Ma Yankee She's the only color commentator for any pro sports franchise on radio that the woman there's a couple on TV like Carol Austin did although now she's at Duke but endorsed Burke but on radio and I listen to her and I was like I thought she was great. So anyway, just just a side note I didn't even know they had A. Female color commentator and they do. So I'm taking the Yankees Youtube. Got The race as Astros Ryan. Astros after all their controversy in the trash can gate here astros are back in it up taking them cheering for like the evil astros they're proven everybody wrong. They can still play Astros all right Shannon I'm still on the as. A picked them to go to the world. Series. All the way it did tell me one person that plays for the as Ricky Henderson Jose can. SACO. You. I don't know anybody. Who Simeon Is at first or last last name Okay Trevor Siemian. I don't remember his first name Simeon though. Simeon Rice. Football. I'm taking the as as well. So so you so Ryan Has Yankees Astros Shady's. Raise, Astro race astros she didn't raise as and I have Yankees as all right braves marlins Shannon. I assume you'll take the braves oh. Yeah. About Thirty Ryan who do you have? I'm going don mattingly the Miami Marlins Stay Hall you're just because the cardinals aren't that's right. I think the braves I remember for the braves. Now I, mean they go back on the bandwagon aren't you bet? I gotTA, pick shut up. Care I got to pick US UP MONEY. So I mean of the other teams I'll I'll pick the braves and then finally padres dodgers I'm at this very moment where padres sweatshirt that I bought. It I'll take the Padres Ryan. Who Do you? Pick padres, beat the Carta dodgers the best team in baseball. I don't think he's lost twenty games this year. Yeah, they have a lot of players. So there you go. There's your baseball preview who's next. Let's go. Darryl Darryl, how're you dare? Taylor. You doing good. What's up? A couple of quick thing I love to play in Patchy is the Because, person Spradlin is based feeling boy and I. Don't know if Y'all know this story Jacob Rice but he's a Johnson central point guard that Latam to the sweet sixteen, the all time games played later, they'll come to see us allegiance. He got an offer even though he did all that and school never offered, and then they went to moorhead played in in a merely an he. Kids up there in. Princeton Spradlin seen one day ended up giving him a spot on. New Routes. So there's a kid on moorhead who got an offer by playing intermurals. Yup Persons Bradley noticed. Mural. That's a great story. That's what everybody that plays intermurals ride hopes will happen and it never does happen and it happened for this kid and what's his name again? Gay Cabrera Jacob Rice I liked that well good for him anything else darrow. One more thing. Yeah I've been meaning to tell you this for a while you know I bought probably five copies of your for family and Friends but. I just want to commend you. For. The story that you talked about you know your sprung and. It really hit home and I WANNA to give Larry be tell out. There making the main yard. So you had the humble you detailed story and you know I really appreciate your. Well. Thank you. Sir that was. I thought it was important and I appreciate the call to. Talk about that in the book and I I've had I've had so many people note what that chapter about Taylor, county how it helped them and that was worth writing the book so I appreciate you. Noting that and by the way Ryan the paperback comes out. Tomorrow. I don't really know what that means. Exactly. I. Do know that the hardcover came out during coverted. and. Now the paper bag is coming out while the president is in the hospital. So timing has not been great Ryan for either of the of the book releases. Will coming out perfect time. If you're starting your Christmas shopping and you're looking a little stocking stuffer. To do media I once again had a big string of media to do at once again, it all canceled barrel. Hospital. Yes. Did it really? Yeah. I. Mean it is well. I do have the Andrew Yang podcasts. They comes out this week. So okay, good. But I had like seven different things setup Shannon and then they all this weekend we're like listen in the hospital so we're going to have to cancel that. Push back the delays the book a couple of weeks. Well you can't like. It's like all the bookstores already had they already have it. You can't. You can't do that. So well, it's fine. I mean the book sold pretty well for the books sold so well at the beginning that like it exceeded expectations and like the first two weeks. So it's all good but you know my ability to to to have to wear a suit and get out of this hooded sweatshirt has gone away for the rest of the Week Well Janet every time I WANNA do this my phone stops. We'll do it when we get back, let's take a break bags Kesar more. The chaos are blue lights across the bluegrass county by county virtual tour presented by the Kentucky off of Highway Safety after this to talk to Matt Jones and the crew called the Clark's pumping shop phone line at five, zero, five, seven, one, ten, eighty, or one, eight, seven, seven, nine, oh, four, eighty. Now back to Kentucky Sports Radio on talk. Radio Tanny so this. Really. With the pro football focus or whatever it is. They rate every player in college football every game. Okay. They give them a rating on. Did you do what you were supposed to do? All Right? Terry Wilson was the second highest rated quarterback. Josh Ali was the second highest rated wide receiver and it has just come out Chris Rodriguez was the highest rated running back. and. Yet we lost. Like I said, the problem was not the offense. Ladies Gentlemen Boys and girls it was right across the other side of the ball our defense defense look really think about that. I mean. We have the. Second Highest quarterback the second is wide receiver and the highest running back and we lost Shannon. Last two we beat them on paper just not on the field I mean you look at the stats everything would point to Kentucky winning what do you make of Chris Rodriguez being the number one and not Aj Rose Ryan. I I'm surprised I mean I knew he had a good game. Is he definitely our best running back. Do you think he is our best running back? Would you make Rodriguez the number one? He's he's our best guy. He's the guy. I mean, I know the staff loves AJ Rose I think he means a lot to the guys but Chris Rodriguez is our best running back. Text machine seven seven, two, four, five, two, five, four, one person writes Matt. Can you believe Kentucky's favored three points over Mississippi state that seems crazy to me. Doesn't seem crazy to me. I mean look. Here's the thing about Kentucky. Fans when we're good, we always think we're better than we are when we're bad we always think we're worse than we are. The reason we're at three point favorite is on paper we're probably even with them and the Games at our place I mean I know Mississippi State Lsu but then they lost at home to Arkansas so which ones the real Mississippi state I don't know if you watch K J Costello Oh against Lsu have thought he was fell quarterback. Arkansas he looked worse than anybody I've ever seen. So you know it is what it is. Now the big difference is lsu played man and Arkansas played zone. We play Zone A lot Ryan. So that's probably a good good sign for us but if I'm Vegas and I'm setting that spread I probably make. Kentucky. The favorite by small amount and that's what they did. I was surprised Mississippi State only scored fourteen points at home against Mississippi State. You call it. You said you wait Mike. Leach just. Seventeen point favorite and I to me that there were two games that I invested heavily in this week and I had a great sports gambling weekend. But the two games I invested heavily in Tennessee over Missouri. I thought that was a slam dunk and it was and then Arkansas Mississippi state I just I didn't pick Arkansas to win but I thought they'd cover and Ryan. They dominated the game. Yeah not only covered one dominated the game at home. Starkville Misano Man Mike Leach is the king of great game, terrible game great game, and that's why people wonder. Sometimes, why has no top programme ever hired him Ryan that's why schools like Texas Tech Washington State Michigan Mississippi State. They want guys like that. But if you're Auburn, you don't WanNa do like that. You gotTa have a dude who's consistent. So. Philosophies that he's GonNa have a great game against us well. I think what's more likely is he lays a or against us and then goes and Beats Auburn. I mean that's kind of. Case Yeah. Yeah we'll see if they beat us they won't be fun. Game by game at seven thirty, right So also, we'll know the time of the Tennessee game right after the show ends as well. WHO's next Steve Steve? HOW'RE YOU Steve? Matt well, for me. I have Rodriguez I because I would say, Aj rose is unavailable because he's been running steps all week. So you have, you'd have gotten some punishment there. There's no question he would. He would have not carried the ball the rest of the day. I would met him like Eddie grand met him and said you better pray we score because your career may have just ended. And could I talked earlier caller said he was he's a senior you just don't. Don't do that moving. Lucky wins you brought up the Eastern Kentucky game. That was a lucky win? Yes. It down two touchdowns in the fourth quarter to eastern. And Dorian. Baker the highlight maker. made a rare great catch on that one catch Steve He made I. Think you're right on fourth down was insane. The catchy made I think it was the one that sent the game to overtime. Yeah. Yeah. He doesn't make that catch the game is over. And they lose to eastern and as it was beat eastern and lost their next five games. So That was that the year. was that was year they charted out they'd be they'd be South Carolina in Columbia. Road Win for students here we went to the bowl game. was that year we went to the tax layer. Twenty five twenty you said twenty seventeen, he was twenty fifteen. So we didn't do we not go to a bowl that year right? We were five and seven Gotcha we were three and one going into eastern. And one to go to forty, one four, and then we'll also next BOB Games Gotcha Gotcha. All right. Well, this appreciate. Steve always good to hear from you know the season started Ryan when I hear from Steve He's he's eight. Yeah, he's A. Look at the game caller. I like it Yup, Steve's back, and you bring up that game and that that scenario brings those. Horrible losses back into play we lost five games. Right losing eastern would be the most embarrassing thing in the eastern was better than us that night I remember they had one guy that got drafted. Right? They had this sense of Lonzo he just dominated us. The Best Player on the field he's transferred from Ohio state I think yes, that's correct. WHO's next? Steve WHAT'S UP Steve. Hello. Yes. Okay. Yeah. Well, you know I I tend to my first UK football game. It stole field in once as nineteen seventy. And I've seen some really ugly office. But I have to give copes, coach stoops and his staff. A. Lot of credit on what they have done it Kentucky. he's been there eight years they've improved every year they've gone to four straight bowl games. They were in three and two, thousand eighteen, and they were final ranking twelfth in the AP. Everyone Expects Kentucky to play football like Kentucky is Alabama. Will we're not Alabama but we have come back. In football were good now. Facilities, are I Reich Coach stoops runs a really good. I. Agree with all that but we did just lose ole miss. We did we certainly did and and I was sad the way it happened. Our defense has gotta get better when you have a twenty eight fourteen lead and you wound up losing like that at home you know that's that's something that you do. But everything we play is GONNA be tough. We're all she say opponents none of them are going to be easy. Everyone's going to be a dog. I agree with all that, but we did lose and I think it's. But it's not the end of the world is not the world but. It's not the of the world and I hate to cut you off but I gotta I gotta go. We just gotTa live. It's not the end of the world, but we did lose and it's okay I think for people to be frustrated. But when it comes to insurance, don't be frustrated make the right coverage at the lowest rate possible. You can go to trusted choice dot com whether it's life home or auto insurance this Kentucky Independent Agency will customize a plan to fit your needs trusted choice dot com if you need life home. Or Auto, and you're like, what do I use? So confusing, there's all these commercials there's people what do I do trustedchoice dot com will help you figure out the right one for you. That's what they do. That's how that's how they succeed go to trusted choice. Dot Com are ks our game of the week this week we will hand Ryan to Owensboro for Owensboro Owensboro Catholic and we'll see Gavin Wim set the number one ranked quarterback and one of the biggest recruits coming out of Kentucky at the quarterback position in a long time. Yeah big rivalry there owens borough owns broke Catholic Gavin websit getting recruited by everybody. So that'll be fun. Be Fun. Coming owns were going Thursday night to see what Owens Bro has to offer she. Just. Probably that mad mushroom pizza the X. though Tim that's the most likely light barbecue. Moonlight. What else did I have? Some Well, never mind whatever it is it'll be a began.

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AEE 1476: Dont Apologize For A Job Well Done

All Ears English Podcast | Real English Vocabulary | Conversation | American Culture

17:42 min | 2 months ago

AEE 1476: Dont Apologize For A Job Well Done

"This is an all ears. English podcast episode fourteen seventy-six. Don't apologize for a job. Well done welcome to the all ears. English podcast downloaded more than one hundred fifty million times. Are you feeling stuck with your english. We'll show you how to become fearless influenced by focusing on connection. Not perfection with your american hosts. Aubrey carter the isles. Wiz and lindsay mcmahon the english adventure coming to you from arizona and colorado u s a and to get your transcripts delivered by email every week go to all ears english dot com forward slash subscribe. What could be the result of a lifetime of apologizing. When you make statements at work in american culture it could cause a lower salary lack of promotions and it could make your colleagues respect you less today. Listen to this second episode in our series on language trends in twenty twenty. How's it going aubrey. Good to have you on the show. I always loved being over here. How are you good. Good doing well been visiting some family on the east coast so leaning in that ocean air is always a good thing. When you're in a landlocked state get away from colorado and you'll actually be a little closer to an ocean anywhere whichever direction you drive. You'll get closer to an option. That's true so i don. I love certain these fun questions. Do you find it easy to talk up your accomplishments at work like if you had to fill something out that asked. What did you do well this week. Would that be easy for you. I think more now than before you know at my age right at this point it probably easier than it was. When i was twenty five for example but not necessarily easy i would say a little tricky loaded. At least there's improvement rate. That's nice you can see you're doing better. I'm terrible at it. i re. I still have a hard time. It's much easier for me to think of something that someone else did. Well that i work with or sort of in general something that went well. And if i have to sit and think what did i accomplish do perform. Well it's for some reason. There's this block interesting right. Whether or how i was raised. There's this tendency to not focus on my own accomplishment. You know so we were talking about this about ten episodes ago guys in the first episode in this series. This is your crash course in language trends in two thousand twenty and we talked about how it is cultural. But it's weird. We have this weird juxtaposition in american culture. Were in some ways. Were self promotional right. You have marketing commercials and messages everywhere but in other ways we're totally not great. It's interesting and we wanna do a different take on it today. Because from this conference we learned some interesting information about why. It's so vital to avoid apologizing as a business professional and this really ring true because we have been creating this business. Course which is amazing. If you guys haven't checked it out go to all ears. English dot com slash business. But this is so key because like we talked about last time it is very cultural and depends a lot on how you were raised but no matter what your culture and how you were raised. It's the same for you. Once you're in the business world that apologizing can be very detrimental There's the gender aspect here to of course right. Yeah this is man guys. We try to in our business curriculum. We try to really bring you real topics like current topics. That people are actually talking about not archaic formal language from the textbooks of the nineties. So this is why this fits in really nicely with our business curriculum. Aubrey here exactly rate. Sometimes it's just so important to realize we don't want to minimize our contributions or ever question our own ability. We have to realize how that presents to other people how they will respond to that or or how that makes us look and it might even keep us from getting a promotion totally until this episode. Today is inspired by a talk by someone right speaker that you got a chance to see. Her name is shontae street. She's a business english coach and yes was fascinating at so much great information and so this time we're talking about what she said about why. It's so important to ditch the apology as a business professional and how to do that. Concrete ways what you can say instead of apologizing awesome so guys go and check out online. See what she's up to for sure but we're just gonna give you a little synopsis than kind of our takeaway from that. Talk right our angle on it here. So let's get into it opry. Yes okay so you may find yourself at work. Starting everything you say with. Sorry or an apology right. You may say sorry. This might be a silly question. But or i'm sorry. How the minute ray or oh i'm sorry but can i make a comment here. I don't want to disturb anyone. Wolf s i know or i'm not an expert here but or for example when a boss compliments you for meeting a sales goal you deflect bat and you say well it was a team effort exactly and you can see. I know as you guys are listening to this. You can see how this could be detrimental but you want to really be reflective here and think about. Do you do this right. i think it's very common. You're not alone. A lot of us do this. Especially at way. Oh and it's so hard for example you know for our listeners. From japan i mean. I know because i worked in japan for a couple years year and a half saying something like well. It was a team effort. Is i think almost required in japanese combs room. Must you must do that right. That's my understanding. At least i think it's challenging. As we cross cultures we learn a new language. We have to figure out that other culture. And what's gonna look good and what's not gonna look so good in this other culture exactly and that's why shanty street was talking about. What exactly is the trouble with apologizing in the business world because we may have students from japan or from other cultures who who do show more humility that might not realise what could be the effect here so she gave four points of uae. What can happen if you're apologizing at work okay and this is this is kinda specifically in american culture. Then right i mean we can kind of narrow it down there. Yeah i would say so too so the first one then. Aubrey is people end up. Not taking seriously. And this is what she shares. So if you don't believe you're ready for a senior position than no one will think you're ready. Yeah it's so much about what you believe you can do. It's like if people don't know you all they have to go on as the tone of your voice how you how seriously you take yourself exactly right and then if you don't take yourself seriously they won't either exactly and the second one is. You can actually irritate. People are saying sorry. This may be a silly question for example they may think. Then why are you asking it right. It's that they might even if you have a sassy co worker or something. They may actually say that to you. And that would be embarrassing right yeah. Do you hear the motorcycles in the background. I don't know if you can hear very faint but yes okay guys. We have a traveling podcast today. I'm recording on the south shore and this is a noisy street. Sorry for the noise. If you love this podcast and you wanna hear more episodes like this one then. Hit subscribe on your podcast player. Now don't miss a single episode. Go ahead and hit subscribe now and thanks for listening to all ears. What's the third reason aubrey well. It can undermine your credibility your shining a spotlight on your language skills. Maybe if you're apologizing and saying three. I may make mistakes in this presentation. But hopefully you'll understand me right. Think about what. You're shining a spotlight on. You might be the expert and the message that you're going to share in a presentation or an email is vital for the people in the room and instead you're highlighting your language skills and maybe they'll pay attention to that instead of your message. Yeah you know this makes me think of. When i was living in boston i used to do. A lot of tutoring for like phd. Students at mit and a lot of them were international students. Right of course they weren't there learning english but my student benoi from france. He was always so worried about the how perfect his english was with. The fact was he was an absolute expert in physics. And what he knew was amazing. He had the expertise. That's what we want you guys to remember. Don't like degrade or downplay your expertise by focusing on problems with your english. I a loss for the world. Yes and there's a reason that speakers are introduced by having someone share their credentials. We want to know why they're an expert and why we should listen and so if we apologize for language skills where undoing all that credibility that was built. Yeah it makes me cringe. I mean so much. This particular guy knew how deep his expertise were. But if you distract then people will focus on that you just you basically tell people what to focus on as a base on the words you choose exactly right okay. So we have a fourth one right. And that is tricky. That it can perpetuate and continue. Or maintain hierarchies in corporate cultures. So about this rate. So if we're always humble and we don't speak up then people will overlook us. It can work against us if we're not seen as competent enough for a promotion and you may be frustrated that you you know your expertise and your skills and your experience are being looked over. Aren't being recognized but it may just be because of the language were using is not letting people see that you deserve a promotion Absolutely that's dangerous so then over the course of we want to talk about you know earnings over the course of a lifetime right and everyone wants to increase their earnings rates with their family. This could mean thousands of dollars. Yes yes exactly right you. You could deserve a raise. You could deserve a higher salary but if you aren't willing to ask for it or if your boss is complimenting you for a while done and you are telling him oh it was really the team. He may second. Guess that promotion right. Yes we kind of have to find that balance of how can we make sure. Our boss knows it was us. It was the team to. But they want to know what's your contribution. And i want to add one interesting point here. Another reason that i could see for not doing this. Is that the words that we say. Teach us something about ourselves so like reflects back on us and it becomes our opinion in a sense. This is a little more existential right. If we're always hearing ourselves apologizing this way we start to degrade what we're actually contributing so it becomes the way we think of ourselves. Guess selfless filling prophecy. Yeah okay so we have an activity here. That's going to give you guys concrete examples of things that you maybe would say that. It contained an apology and a better way to say it. That eliminates that apology right. Yeah we love to get specific on the show. So let's do it. Aubrey what should we actually say. Okay so i'm going to give something that contains an apology and then lindsay. You share how to say that without the apology. Okay all right. here's the first one. Sorry this may be a silly question. Okay and then. I could say i have a question and we can do another episode another day on why we should say i have a question right not going up a whole 'nother topic especially around women and gender. It's the question exactly. Yeah you have the right to have a question. Just say i have a question. Keep it simple. Shanties advice was to assume that someone in the room has the same question as you but isn't brave enough to ask. This will give you courage. So it's like you're speaking for everyone in the room. Who might also be thinking this. Oh that's really good advice from shawnee here. It's kind of like tricking yourself into thinking a different way. That's so good right exactly what. Here's the second one ready surrey for keeping you waiting okay and i would say instead. Thanks for waiting everybody. Exactly right a holiday for keeping people waiting. You're putting yourself on the defensive and you might make them think you've wasted our time instead right. Acknowledged that they waited for you and thank them and then if you merely thank them for waiting how can they now be angry or blame you instead of being annoyed. The psychology is totally different and the level of respect will remain high on both sides. Oh my gosh. words are so important. It's all about how you frame things ugly. It's like two completely different. People here is right. Yes and two completely different levels of respect and admiration and think about which of these people. Are you more likely to take seriously in the meeting. That's about to start absolutely. Yeah we have another. Yeah okay so i would say i'm sorry but i i'm not ready for that promotion okay and i could say instead. Thank you for the opportunity. I'll need some support angela. Sales team would be perfect. Because i love that because maybe you aren't ready for this promotion or not. You can still do it if you have the support you need so instead say thank you i can do that. I'll need some support and suggest who could help. Yeah it's so good it's instead of saying what's missing instead of like negating ready. I'm not this. I'm not that you're saying what you need right. 'cause positive way of saying it so good yes okay and here's another one often. You're going to have a chat if you're on zoom call. They'll be a chat and there may be questions that come up in that and you might find yourself saying sorry. I'm just going to check the chat I would say. I need a second to review the latest comments and questions in the chat so instead of saying. I'm sorry i need a second. Just say i need a second and again totally. Legit totally fine. I there's no need for an apology there. That's your task. You're expected to do it. Don't apologize and she mentioned that whenever possible. Remove that word. Just we do that a lot. I'm just going to do this. Just remove just. I'm going to do this. Yeah that's so. Good that's good all right so we do one more. Yes okay last one. Oh if someone yeah all right. I just thought of something. We actually did an episode on that. Sorry i just randomly thought of that guys. But there wasn't episode on all english about just and i will see if i can grab the episode number here for you. Yeah that'd be good. I haven't heard that one. I love listening to the older episodes. I try to put in the blog. Post blog post. And i'll let you know what that episode is about using or not using. Here's the last one so if someone compliments you for a presentation you just completed you might say i spoke too fast and i forgot to share something and instead you could say thank you. What do you find most interesting about this subject so here. It's interesting because you're continuing the connection. Exactly this is a lot like our previous episode. Where if you apologize and mention flaws or things you wish you would have changed could create an awkward situation. They might have a tendency to end the conversation in walkaway whereas what you said you definitely be like. What do you find most interesting I love it. I love it connection connection connection so good guys. Make sure you go out and hit. Subscribe to this podcast. So you can get the next episode in this series. And what should we leave our listeners. With here aubrey. Well think about this for yourself. If you do find yourself apologizing at work realize how this can make others perceive you. You want to own your abilities. Your skills and talents and practice accepting compliments and speaking to colleagues at work without apologizing. This will make them take you more seriously and it will make sure that you aren't overlooked for those promotions and those salary bumps like lindsey was talking about Yeah keep in mind. What is really at stake here by the end of your career. What's at stake and it's really just a matter of habits again. I think it comes back to habits because once you start doing this a few times it'll become automatic and you'll forget that sorry is in in your vocabulary at all exciting. Yeah i think you guys are going to start noticing it a lot more in your everyday conversation and at work. You'll probably hear colleagues apologize. It's going to be interesting. You should definitely pay attention and then come back to the blog and comment. Let us know if you're hearing this a lot at work or if you're realizing you do it yourself and what you'll do to change it. Yeah so good all right all right here. I'll see you on the next episode in this series. This has been great. Thanks thanks take care bye. Thanks for listening to all ears english. If you're taking. I'll this year. Get your estimated band score with our two minute quiz. Go to all ears. English dot com slash my score. 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52. Integrity Tests

The Long and The Short Of It

19:45 min | 1 year ago

52. Integrity Tests

"Hello listeners if you detect joy in my voice. It's because Pete Sheppard is coming to New York City. I can hear the crowd screaming Jenn. It's true it's true. I'm coming back to New York City and in celebration of that and in celebration val one year milestone of the short of it. We're going to be doing another live podcasts. It'll be happening on the seventh of October at seven PM Eastern and if you want to sign up come alone joining the frivolity you can go to the law of the show podcast dot com slash live. Thank you so much for making this year. A year possible listeners we literally couldn't and wouldn't do it without you if you found value in this podcast and and there are people in your life who you think might also find value in it we would so appreciate it if you would take a screen shot of your phone right now and taxed the image of today's episode to a friend and encourage them to listen and finally if you haven't already please head to our website the longest show podcast dot com sign up for a box of goodies which is a weekly email containing links to resources questions books podcasts and ideas all uh-huh in relation to the week's episode. Thanks for listening. Hello Peter Hello Gentleman. I've had a couple interesting experiences. Is this week that have led me to believe I'm being tested and I thought maybe we could talk about how one might pass an integrity test integrity being one of your core values let's do it. This is the long and short of it. Okay Jim. Woven I think of you as Queen Integrity so please talk to me about your tests okay. Hey I'll give you the short of it. Instead of the long of it I feel like three tests were put in front of me this week and there was some some sort of like possible prize on the other side of the test. If I chose to step away from my integrity so the first was that on the other side was convenience so there was a test put in in front of me with a client that I was developing a keynote slash workshop for and I had had the choice to either do the really hard thing or to go the convenient route and so I had asked myself some integrity questions to make get decision there. The second piece was a business proposition that was put in front of me where the prize his was money but the offer was not at all in alignment with anything I would typically say or I do so that was put in front of me and then the other was simply a personal issue with a friend and what is right and just and whether or not my opinion is popular. All of these things have short period of time and I was like what is happening here. These are juicy so I've heard you say this before. I can't remember if it was on the podcast so maybe for the folks at home who may not have heard you describe. How do you think about or define integrity very good question. I believe everyone in has integrity. The question is are you in your integrity or out of your integrity moment to moment. We're we're never going to be perfect but never going to always be a hundred percent and integrity with ourselves but for me. I am an integrity with myself when what I believe what I say and what I do are in alignment. Sometimes people take issue with the word believe so you could think about this as when what I value what I do what I say are in alignment or where where what I know to be true and what I say and what I do are in alignment. It's that internal compass that intuition and the things that you care about show up in your actions and just to call out having heard you describe it and describe the tests that were presented to you that being in integrity isn't necessarily easy no Peter. It's not it is something that you have to work for and and commit to so the thing that was really easy for me to pass the test on was the money test that one was very very easy because essentially someone made an offer. I something they thought they could bring into my a studio and the thing was completely out of alignment with everything I stand for so is pretty easy for me to say no. I'm not interested in that but but it got me really thinking about how tempting financial reward can be and if I had been in a different position in my life where I was like. I really need did that money. Would I have sacrificed my integrity in that moment just because someone was presenting a profitable opportunity to me so I recognize that my given circumstances contributed to my ability to say no and I'm curious about myself like I've definitely been tossing it around since then like if I was in a different position. Would I have said yes so what I find interesting thing about hearing you say that is I would actually imagine I would assert that for most people. That's the hottest one and so you said that was the easiest easiest one for you the money I actually think that so many of us full out of integrity with ourselves when we chase money when we chase status status or a promotion or a project that's going to pay US really really really really well. Because such is the society diety we live in where everything is focused more money money money and bus stuff stuff stuff that I actually think that one would be the hottest one to to step away from to step back into your integrity and move away from the Shawnee money. That's been on offer well. You know what's funny. I have this sort of. Is it a catch phrase that I use. which is it's basically like the essential question I asked myself? Can I put my head on the pillow at night saying being I'm proud of that so I imagined the scenario and then having to face my students and saying thing yes. We brought this into our space and immediately. It was like a no I could. There's no way I could put my head on the pillow at night and go oh. I'm really proud of that decision so that's what made it so easy to say no to the money the convenience one on the other hand. I had to actually Shirley. Ask for some accountability. You might recall. I asked for it from you. I sent you a voice memo stating my intention to do something really that was much harder than the convenient choice and I said to you. This is the intention I am choosing inconvenience. I'm choosing discomfort. I'm choosing risk and then I'll report back. How it went so the way I was able all to actually stay in my integrity in that moment and deliver the best possible content for the client was to to find myself some accountability. There was not easy I think for whatever reason sometimes we create. These stories that we need to go alone will go it alone and that are many of us. I know so many high performing people that struggle due to ask for help or ask for accountability like that's almost their biggest fear so it doesn't surprise me that you found that one difficult because I I mean I myself from time to time. Find it really hard to ask for help. There's this pressure. We put on ourselves that we need to do it ourself figured at us so often the asking for help is we can you. You know all of those nasty stories that come with that well. The reason it was hard is it's sort of hard to describe but when I was thinking of what it would mean to choose the harder option. I couldn't in that moment see what was in it for me. I could absolutely see what was in it for the client but I was. I was like why am I doing this to myself. Why would I put myself in this position and to take such a big risk and step into this discomfort on the other end of it. What am I getting out of. At that time. I genuinely could not see what was in it for me but because whenever I go and I work with a client the commitment men I make is to show up in service. I have to choose the thing that is of service to the client but the added Bonus Cherry on the top at the end of that experience experience was and you might recall the next voice memo I sent you was oh well. I ran with this idea. I had no idea how it was going to go with completely risky and I think I landed on something that is so much better than the thing I had intended to do. In the first place is that this has the potential to turn into something I use over and over again with other clients and I never would have landed on if I hadn't given myself permission to take this risk so I wonder if built into the experiment. We've done an episode on experiments before the built into that is there's always something in it for you so while you weren't clear in what was in in it for you by running an experiment and risk stacking in a way which is another episode we did you created a situation where whether it was always going to be something in four whether it was the learning that well. I'll never do that again or actually. There's something in that. I think that is what it was in it for. You and I would say what was in it for. You was being in integrity with yourself. That is why you did it. That was what was in it for you. I think just to reflect that back booboo. Yes thank you for that. The third scenario WPRO is where I feel the most proud of my outcome but it was really the hardest and that is is making values and morals based decisions that are perhaps not popular dealer or don't trend and in this particular situation I had a friend who was dealing with a really really tricky personal circumstance and I had to decide how I was going to support this friend and ultimately Lee. The thing that I had to ask myself was what are my values and and what do my values look like an action so that was the first thing I definitely had a hard conversation with myself. When I say hard I mean I was hard on myself but it was also just a hard conversation around. What do I even value and if I put my values values into action. What does that look like going back to. The House layer of the golden circle like this is where the rubber meets the road the tests that come your way they really make you fight for what you believe in and then the other thing that was ultimately the thing that made it easy so you're not easy but easier to move through the tension was. I've been toying with these vision exercises recently. Where are I try to find a way to articulate. What does the future look like in my vision for the world and one of the ways ah to that is I look around at what makes me angry. What pisses me off what is not okay with me and then then. I imagine what would the world look like if that was different or better and so I was thinking about this in relationship to this friend and going what is it about the world that is really bothering me right now and then what would it look like if it was better and imagining the better the world was really for me the key to saying if that is the world. I envision then I really only only have one choice in this matter if I'm going to show up and integrity with myself that really helped. It's still hard but it helped me to say. I'm going to support my friend in this way and at the end of the day I can absolutely put my head on the pillow at night and say I am proud of how I showed up in this situation. So what does better look. I love that as a question question. We'll do a whole episode on what pisses you off framework and I also think what's interesting about hearing you talk about all three of these examples and this idea of stepping into our integrity is that we have a choice to do so and you use the word choice quite a few times but I think this is so underappreciated and undervalued undervalued so I'm just GonNa say it out loud as I think we have a few episodes that everything is a choice and in any given moment we can choose news whether to take the easy road or the hard road and there is a phenomenal quote by of completely forgotten his name. All I know is that he's a Polish powerlifter and the quote goes a little something like this easy choices hot off hard choices easy life and I think there is so much wisdom in that because everything just describe was a hard choice and I think the easy life pot comes in the fact that you can now rest your head on the pillow knowing that you acted in integrity with yourself of course I had to Google Google it. His name is Jersey. Tim Jersey Gregorek Jersey Shoutout Jersey if you're listening and so John What does the post test feeling look. Do you have what Bernard Brown coals of Vulnerability Tapie Hangover. Do you feel calm. Do you feel happy. Do you feel sad. How do you feel post test. I I feel like I have strengthened my I own personal sense of leadership when the business thing was going down. One of my colleagues at the studio happened to be there and was sort of watching and I thought after that I was like I'm glad he saw that because I think I really stood up for what we as a community believe in so so that felt good in that sense in terms of the personal situation when it comes to leadership in personal life if to me. That's you know all about being a parent and I thought to myself I look forward to the day when I can tell my daughter this story and and the thought process and how it was all handled because I would want her to not necessarily even come to the same conclusion because she has her own values but give herself the space to ask the hard questions to really dig deep into what she believes in so that to me felt like okay as a parent. I'm definitely stepping up as a leader there and in my work equip my client. I definitely helped bring them to a better place than where we started which you know helping people step into a better future. That's also an element of leadership so I think the integrity piece strengthened my own belief in in leadership which you know choosing leadership is very challenging. You're constantly sticking your neck out into places where it's vulnerable to be so. I don't feel vulnerability hangover. I feel more like a sense of grounded nece. and I like it I do too I do too so I think what I'm picking up to. Summarize is that when we are confronted with tests we have the choice to step into integrity which will unlikely. AP Easy and ask ourselves the hard questions because the quality of your life is determined by the holy questions I believe and off the back of that we can choose to lead ourselves and others through said difficult tests the that is the long and the short of it

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SurvivorAU Know-It-Oz | Week 9 (Ep 19 & 20)

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SurvivorAU Know-It-Oz | Week 9 (Ep 19 & 20)

"Yeah. Beauties new all in one hair-color kits, make it easy to color your hair at home, get everything you need to call her putatively radiant results loved by professionals, open to everyone. Sally beauty. Hey, what's going on his thick identity here just a quick nerd at the top of the podcast about a couple of things. First of all, it's been a pretty big week in the identity household. My pregnant wife ended up in cost flu. Everything is absolutely fun, but it's definitely taking some time away from the regular schedule of alive. So we've had to kind of jam this interview with Luke in when he could do it. And also the only time that I could do, hence why it's a little bit shorter than usual to good good good amount of time and now, but also it needed to be kind of feeding amongst him on his way to to calm and try. And so the other little note, I just wanted to make note of ease. The audio is not great in pods, had to do a little bit of push for auction. But yes, if you can excuse the poor, sound quality. Of this podcast. I think the fact that we get to hear from the great Luke makes up for. So there's one of the little thing that you can enjoy at the end of this podcast, I have a little treat for you. The great Evan Johns who you heard earlier in the season recorded a previously on survivor in his great j. o. b. impression. And I've left that for you guys at the end of the pod carts just as a way to kind of. To enjoy and to say, thank you for all the. And I just feel like there's been a lot of support the season from the listeners, and you guys enjoy a really strong finish to the season and we're in two weeks. Yeah. So enjoy hearing from Luke apologies about the sound enjoy hearing from Evan and I look forward to hearing what you guys have to say about. Thanks IGA. Hello, everyone. Welcome back to another week of the survivor Noda's on your hose. Nico, danza, and we are here to discuss all things ustralian civil. And before we get started, I'm just going to give you all a warning. Maybe if if you're listening to this with kids around maybe. Maybe don't because there may be some swears along the way because I would like to now use that opportunity to welcome my guest. This is someone who a lot of you have wanted to hear from. I've wanted to catch up with as well because I had such a great time shot into him last time. He is the king of the jungle himself Louis toki. Afternoon, this news. PG on the thing. See, I was always thinking. One hundred zero percent chance that he. He doesn't swear in the oval and he doing what they would I walk today again, never apologize. Swearing as one commentator said, look, we are glad to have. You can say, whatever you want on this podcast, because everyone is just happy from Matt. I've been good. If you've been what's in oversee, just comeback Disneyland. Jerk. Kids. Big hollow that I'll go to experience which of Jerry by the survivor going to. Thank so it was amazing, chimps. Good. You love Disneyland. What would you favorite rod. A lot. Those a Qasr rod, White House pretty sick. And then those guardians of the galaxy a sound like a big kid. Right. I think I think the secrets, I think everyone knows. You're kidding. I think. The us. You went to Disneyland's going to check. Millie, really good speaking of big kids. You're going to have another kid in your midst. Congratulations night. Just having a baby. Number three. Dan us, I think. I'm gonna go get away. Did you ever think he's ago that you'd be a father of three kids? No way in hell. I see. Yeah. Oh, a lot being a follow on good in final, but I never thought on the the. Out what am on now thirty to thirty one, something like that. And then now got three. So. Minute survivor. Well, any fatherhood tip she'd got you send them my way. Look. You've already sent me a couple in messages over the last couple of months of we want. We want to share those on air, but. Well, look around would love to hear your take on the season before we dive in. I wanted to see what are your thoughts because you know it's not that long ago that you play. This is the lightest season since you played and how you feeling about the status of lava at the moment. Look what I've gathered in heard or hurt. The extra brightens are out from Lhasa, so which is. I can't believe that. I can't believe that more people are watching season three than the which you'll season, which was in large part to you. One of the most entertaining seasons we've ever seen. So yes, the writings have been ugly. What always see, you know, we're still in the early stages as a brand, the industry. So a lot of. I lot bringing the the nineteen. Elvis, maybe has woods. Has been probably massive standouts where you can sit back on all love that character and all that press the win. You know, you've kinda feel like there's a rice with like a whole little horses in their own eyes denies. You know, my sir. Yeah, I'll still think it's been good, but still haven't watched as closely as what we should have because of being very busy. Yeah, look. That you will. You would be such writings poison for the for the show. I like. It was near. Maybe this. When people that actually look. I don't think that's the case against the cat. So look, we've got a lot to get to this way. Some new Sophos started us and I'd love to he'll take on it because you're someone who I think that what what was great about your game? You always just took everything in your stride and you never took it too seriously, but you always found a way to make things work. So there was a lot of new stuff happening this week with the Dead Man Walking his love your take on it. So what was your initial thoughts when Jonathan says those words. It's going to be trouble counts going to be a little bit different this week, and this is what it is. What were your first got got thoughts. All like when he said it was going to be all winning mentioned about the dead men looking wrap the whole audio at Sean gimme. Let us into the mind of Luke tikey because I think it's a pretty scary place. Wait on that. You know, like for him he survived because I said, you're a Dead Man Walking, so they voted him to be dead men walking. That's how it happened by. Yeah. And then he's obviously gone to if code him in the middle of nowhere, those trae mile. And then they've sent him straight to exile and he's come back, immunity, lost me, and then go voter. Got kick in. I'm just wrapping it up. So then I'll go to ROY my head. Because all of lot of watched little bits and then miss things and they're not the kit. Then I had to change it nappy. Is calling. I don't know how it is just yet. This. You. But yeah, I think a think when you're injured on survivor, whether you've got an injured leg oil, you know, like you have already been classified as you'll garner ex-all and the numbers coming back from that. You can't just be like, will maybe char and get the numbers. You need to lock need to law. Why not? Yet promptly creates a law, you know, to swipe and kinda sick that people are gonna like Ghauri like, oh, this thought Steve coming back. If he won that meteorite when you come back, you really really need a shake up. Because when you come back, you just as eve and everyone loves to win. Two numbers are like, that's why no one saved Teague as much as even if those a few that was still even friends with. Bin Laden like an, it's makes me closer to the. They've won higher up on the looting and this even if you move in a bad position, people think like that because they just want to be an little sometimes. Just want the number. Yeah. So you you break in a wife in the pack, sign new that you want to be the top dog. That's you really pushing to to to take the sport, and you wanna be this or not just fall into this. If you get too many people that just want to be a number within, then sometimes you end up. A whole lot of numbers at the end or whatever. So with with the Dead Man, Walking twist specifically like one of the things that we know in Australia and Slava, you need to have these kind of known elimination episodes. This seemed to me like an interesting way to do that so that they can kind of Pat out the episode's odd. I thought it was interesting. I wouldn't want to see it again, but I do think that there was. It was an interesting way to do this. Do you think that the show did this because Teagan wasn't saved all those days ago and then therefore they needed an extra episode? Or do you think that was? This was always on the cards. Now, all of on believed to some degree that the action shore is I have all full matted at before the show starts yet. So then because this I was on fim because you know what we've already planned that was supposed to happen. Might be if Bibey lock on, but maybe they could bring, you know, say for rinse, the dead men will remain early. Oh, could be other where the mainland my what we had a shift certain is, but that dead men will debate apply in the book that was lark in in the game already before it started off still today needed to make necklace. So of course, they will. To lost Audela that would like to have served this like TV you know, it's all about writing. It's all about, you know about and I would love to have maybe a Gill castaway initi- Crosby not exile all suffering that because I'm self a still fuel are. That was it was a good little different because you put on more Nick if you if if one that you would see some great TV 'cause I'll be over there where sticks and stop and really make this our little trial by myself. You. This is one of the questions say you would you Danes to be, you know, the Dead Man Walking. What could you? What would you have done? If you were stage, they've said you'd law to get out of give what, what else could you do if you Steve, in that situation when you've been separated from the and you can come back and say, they've told me that if I get started out in the two one vote, but if loss evolve to within August to choose someone to in well, whatever you get. So easy to believe. And they think that it's, you know, I think I think Steve say, what was your biggest laws on the thing? And he could only mention to, which would just pretty much like voting someone out. I'm being told what with that person said, oh, you made it to not announced that she'll be a slob. The guy? Yeah, that means that you've just been a truce trip tools the whole game. So come back with vengeance spot bushy. Going out, you'll, you can the goes to see a sign that, oh, run back, said Sean. Just told his source Sean, incite onto the bus Ardia. Yes, just not the way he is not who he is the United States and never going to do that. And I think that's why he was maybe a mistake Kosti, but he when I say he could recite because he's Boileau follows to share venture insight. They could be family friends and stuff in the end, his help with chard. Would you probably cost him again, we'll you'd say we're what bring. Know other that he might file up. You can make it fire and do nothing. You know, it's just, but I tell you when trailing savant, sometimes we'll you need. You need a toll card. And I think the biggest thing about this being said about him, he hasn't talked much in then on top of he hasn't laud much United and. If he gets five stars for my shit. My. Does everyone love my sheep. Nicely. Well, so so one of the things, so it's full. Judas having you own at this time that you voted out of the final seven in this is the final step. Sorry to bring that up. But you know, the final seven traditionally is one of the most interesting votes because it's like that swing the full versus the three and stuff like that. I just feel like having the like what you said about having a Dead Man Walking earlier or something like that because I just feel like it robbed us of the really cool vote off, which is the seven. And unfortunately it was you last year that is a time when big things usually occur. We kind of went straight to seeks in a way. Exactly. And I like you could, you know. I walked is definitely differently. These next come blurts could be very predictable. They can be very, or they need something to lot mix auditor by lot. Yeah, I think that the other thing he does is it kinda creates the two episodes will pretty much mirrors of each other. It was the same thing is like, is it going to happen again, like is I'm on a combined gonna stick and verdict Steve again. So that was kind of a little bit boring. Just kind of fed. So someone on Twitter, right? That it kind of fear that disenfranchises the minority kind of just makes them on field it as even less that they can do. I, I was on the pinion. And if you watch the, did you watch the jury villa this week? We've stave having a guy started. The only the only real interesting thing was that it seemed like the jury was like, could not believe that Steve was actually voted asked simply because he was not a threat anymore. And this is what I wanted to talk to you about. It's very clear that they. Wanna get Steve app. Right? And it's very, because that's what Brian wants. Brian seems to be kind of in a good Spall. Arkansas, where run will be the person that makes it to the end, but never wins. And you know that she's folk because he's not doing jury management. Yeah, they he ever so good good on your mic into the second, but you're going to be like that Russell in America where you can make it too far to one hundred tons by you'd never gonna win. Yeah. Unin seeing for him and he's doing karnal not the repay of what look. People lot where you kinda you soak. He's probably so comfortable now where he thinks he can go on the run of immunities and we all believe that we can actually think is he's a big boy is he's oversee Supra coordinated through all the years of footy. And if he goes on the run, we've got an auto in his pocket. He's gonna win all the challenges. He's going to end up in the final and he's going to lose in the form of us how AUSSIE gone them. Yes, you on the I I take your point. I just didn't think he's gonna make it that far. But I do one hundred degree review that he makes it to the end. He's not winning. Sucks. If he does Mike, the end will all be lot. Will you play that pretty well? You've had that Nick lies, you know, you've managed to vote out the gods to be to think that muni I'll be the strongest threat and all the challenges win. All the challenges by the thing is is accurate. Lucky law said, you lose widened brother, you'll at PR. Yeah. Interesting. Yeah, he's, he's definitely played really well. Like why better than I thought he was going to play based on how he was playing for the first half of the game. You know, he's, he's, he's on his perfect swing. Three times. He's had a munity twice. He's got an auto keeps the gills on his side like it seems like he's playing a really good game, but is that how you have to? Is that how you have to get far in a strategy and sevada Dunstan playing into the merge? Is that what you have to do? Your will. Now because everyone plays their rowing guy, but auto want to get to the end and lose. Yeah, it'd be nothing worse like nothing worse, just right to the end and moons will still you came sec. You've as far as I'm concerned because you didn't mean. If anything, it probably makes you worse that you're such a good game to some degree and then go to end and lost. Yes. Yeah. Doesn't that make it even worse because you have lock fully underestimated that they're people that student to have like thanking me wrong, that people will pray, shut the game play. But if they generally a think that you're that over. And most sign he isn't it, but it looks like the viewers may be the jury, whatever a not. Sorry, why I've got so many more people in front of you to give the yet all. I'm always bad that game by someone that's really put himself out out there and maybe an crude from the bottom to the top and then knocked back down to the bottom and then curled back to the top lock, I like that store unite. Feel like he can maybe beat Monica, but even that I feel like there are people that are so annoyed him ninth. You Shane, if Shany's on the jury and Brian's at the end, there's no way she's voting nuts, Neta voting. Steaming. Steve's never doing a. And that's, that's your whole trauma. Darlings fat with. So if you're a hotel for things, no way you allies Iraq. You've really shot half your tribe in the food which is as foreign, but you gotta do it in a gracious. Why? Automate some very, and then if then goes, you win in Iowa, unless you're, you've got the gift guide is low at in under start, see it one thing, drinking net. There's any part of him that wanted to just be lost guy. Or or think he wants to definitely get their end maybe the best. But I even that just like joke, he wants to be out of sight out of twelve guys on the season. I was the last mile long last mile. Don't think is necessarily that think that he's trying to position himself. Well, where like if Steve is the early real like physical yet Cal, a guys and he knows if he could take them out within his go up onto goes to contend to you at all of a sudden like the gills shine. The old one is probably you could say, maybe her is the best out of luck than Fanilo than shawny than Monica is in. Like when you put them all together as in LA coordination skills, whatever. But there's always wanted challenge where it's like holding onto a pole. She's going to shoot him in the food unite. You think he's been funny, you eve always provided great comedic. Did you have you been locking what bronze and bring. Level is pretty hilarious. You know, all this large largely. He's white wile. Yeah. Yeah, Arkansas. Aw, Occidental's on the funding his jokes hostage arms Larisa gills obviously farming funny as well. What is in certain people right? Different skews or when you're out there, something realized like a lotta people found Michelle on to be annoying or whatever. I'm really had robbed, but authorities Larry's didn't came. Everyone be locked, but she doesn't do anything about came. I'm not. It doesn't wire me luck. It doesn't worry me that look, if you'll if you'll sabotaging or you being fully lacked annoying. Whatever like, yeah, that's the stuff that could annoy, but all of never been too much phase. If someone grabs ten sticks in someone grabs twenty nine walk. Well, that was a huge deal of night. Look, if you would Shane and that I would. I would definitely vote you off and if you if you didn't kill buddy. Yeah, that's five would polices coming for him in, oh, but I always did not did. And, and for me always. Trying to protect people from people like that because it was cipher instance blue if it wasn't a good from our game, if it was someone that wanted out, we to be like they don't pick up. Someone that wanted trout lot Mark fruit or whatever it within a little alliance or whatever I would be. He can't is. Sticks. Yeah, yeah. So it totally by to how you made to. So if it was someone that was knowing me, I'd be like, I'm so secretive not doing any work. Yeah. And then they'll say, wait a minute, plus we shouldn't matter. Great. I'm gonna just want to talk about a Dead Man Walking his little bit more right? So so I think that there was a huge. There's a couple of huge miss misplace by the the majority, the remnants of the Mighty Ducks, whatever that would call themselves. So Brian and Monica and shawny and Fennell. Now there was some debate about who to put it on, and it seemed like the gals wanted to put it on Shane, but Brian was really pushing to put it on Steve, but it just doesn't make sense to put it on Steve to me. For the me does, don't you think that the right move was to put it on shine because Shane is not going to win immunity, right? So so being Dead Man Walking doesn't stop you from winning immunity. You can still win immunity, right? So if if Steve doesn't win, you'll, he's going to be your target. And that means you've just voted the personnel who in the second travel council is doesn't have avoid. It would have made way more sense to vote out shine. She's going to be there for the next two voids. There's nothing that she can do because she's not going to win immunity and you're not gonna they're out so you can get rid of the other threats and then you can maximize the longevity of getting to two votes with that person doesn't have vote like they're now back to square one. It just seemed really strange human. Sign, look for scientists, even there. There is like amazing for like actually give a mad because on. Early down exactly though old of cut a recital Sean out, because you know if you cut out one of the gills all probably would have gone shine on block. Look night wanted shine. So if take signed by either y, one of them probably steam because then you still sell the staves a big threat in in United and by Keisha buffet between noon grub. I'm what what are you someone Christian offs? This question I have no idea. Maybe. The onset. If shunning was made the Dead Man Walking and she still had the vote, still, would she have been able to use it. If she had the voice too. It would have been interesting. Why not? Yes, that's that says, just because he's Dead Man Walking like you should be out of just Playa while knee site that you know that right. It doesn't site that you're not devoid steel. So just, you know, in the end thumbs up of comes down on the Dead Man Walking. What are you. A lot because the thing is is like you remember, you said Stephen, the person that Ali talks. You know, I'm telling you if all went over there and I had dead men walking. Oh, on a mock more foil on the bait who probably be like twenty foot tall. That be even if they will look in ira- island that would be out of theme. Of on Zula in front of that Lila on come back and I would just be going on my Cup, a lot of say, lock up, ain't even a clue. I get it at this time. Kate me in, you know, and then get the clue and we can turn it will something like that. Like just yet. Yeah, it's good. That's good. I like it. So one of the other things, Luke was Monica. This was like Monica's week the emergence of Monica, Brian. What are your thoughts on Monica sofa all even this week. Oh, jeez. She's coastal out. I think she's had struggle. She's as many up so downs, like some other fires. That's why I'll try to sign a lot of the plies left Howard at many up slowdowns other than by shawny Fanilo. And you know that really had to struggle Encarta Savar properly, you know? Yeah. Auto on auto, I think because having on how many times has learned his name come up. No-one exempt she has has, but he's this. But is that like and this is an age old survive and discussion rot that just because you've coasted through and it's been easy for you? Is that a bad thing because you haven't played or is that a good thing? Because isn't that what you try and do on survivor lock you? That's a good thing of course, but that's sign you can. That's why try to argue that. That's that is a great stretch. It's yet. Yeah. Is it a Greis how you gonna argue that you did anything. Be, then you know, like not like not decide as much, but there was on stage that was our debt or debt had signed strategy as as Monaco is in just be a number. The one term she had to be middle swing Bari. She can say she's emotional valid issues. Now going to be the, the post in the really dishonored someone rather than just someone telling me who to vote, you know. So she had to choose a way and those one, Tom, where debt was the exact same. She was locked all on the middle on August to the side, and then we blonde saw. Always like you. You know, you said, you know, for, for instance, overseeing oughta has said it, but like, you know, she told Sean on with you a hundred percent. And then she obviously told barn on abused. So you know, unless a debt Khanna did instead, she said, will on all my mom on trial. By the way she was always the the is it. I'm happy to just as long as the smoke may and I'll just you just tell me how to vote away to some degree earned. Yeah, and I think this is what people do. Right? They see that like sevada history. Someone like, Sandra, you know, he's won twice is it said people say that she's won because she anyone, but me, but she had y more levels to game than that, and you conscious come in and just say anyone but me like you have to do a little bit more than that. And I don't think that it's gonna work out for Monica because she if she. Does just say that then that's dumbing down her game a little bit because I actually think she's done a lot more than that and audit. Think she's really aware of. The oldest show is going to great lengths to hide what she's doing. Have you felt like her road head voting record is? I think perfect. Every time she is voted correctly. Now you're someone who voted correctly a I, if I ever is that rod you'll ever ever on the ans- answer on alerts three, three. But the thing is like us to fuel lark burden correctly. That's fun. That's what some people think. That's a great thing. If you're voted correctly, but have out Mike push your arm push for something. Yes, it's not as good as being is not as good as being the person at the top, but in. Or incorrectly. While Stu off on the complete opposite of black earning correctly is the most perfect. The strategy in the perfect thing, whatever. I'm like, how about just run the risk of losing but to try to get your personnel? Because I, for instance, yeah, you get it wrong, who then you have to learn how to scramble and see if you can go back and say all of our stuff on this or whatever, like are just like, I understand it's, it's definitely a strategy is a strategy. You know, I think there was one time where just just just have run for yourself. Nightlife yada, get one out that you won't out, you know, for sure. Sure. I think I think that's a really good point. And it's interesting to have the argument because you know, Twitter has been obliged this week with people saying, all moniker is so dumb and Monica doesn't know what she's doing. And then there's the other side of people say, no, no, she's voted correctly. She swung back and forth. Three times always in the majority, always getting out who her and Brian wanted people coming to information. So there's definitely a debate raging, and I think that you have to look at the facts on the table that she is always voting in the rod spoil. It doesn't mean that she's going to get any credit for that because many of the times other than the loss, three, she has just been told what to do. Yeah. And her just flipping over to another saw discount, believe. Saif rinse. Like I just can't believe someone has gone to come together and just let's get rid of the rain. I know. I know it is hot on because you use Lenny. Nate too, but like they're just has to call it way. Point where you get rid of the loop ought to some degree. It really opens up the guy, Tom, so he's, he's what I think about that. I think that Shawn was bitten once and I, I flipped on her then the next time they came back and voted with them. So they kind of empowered to think, okay, that was a one off thing that did their back with us that was for the Dead Man Walking to his after that ought to the Dead Man Walking twist. You should know not to go back to that. Well, like she wasn't going to come back, but she's proven that she's to flip flop e and it seems like in the preview for next week she Sean and that are going to try and get with shawnee and Fennell to overthrow Bryan Bryan Monica that needed to happen at that. They're that needed to happen at the after the dead men walking when Steve went home in my opinion and Sean needed to take that information and say, look, guys vote with us. There's no threat to. Us to you later on because Steve, Stu, convoy, so gets out next week, right? But for Newsweek, let's just get Monica area like it's it's no. Would have been a good way to do it, leverage, leverage effect that he conflict. Yeah. The thing is is like exactly the pot way. You know, the one thing I can call about a guy is is I think he's brought over. They're putting their names on on us alliance today, like bronze gals. Oh, the. The. Anyone can anyone can. I'm losses it like it's such a strong strength in the game because it's nothing better than having a name for launch. Yeah, it can create that feeling like you're part of something. Claim to Sean. Because I just feel like when Sean was like signed to Monica, like of you, everyone thinks you're on. I think you'll smart was so cringe with. Cringe-worthy and and that's why site like Monica's is not not domino. She's very aware what's. She's rethinking. Yeah, I like all just Kate. Like what's the word like humoring. You'll like deep down off your like should have to think that she's just humoring Sean to be like, yeah, on all spotlight. Blah, blah, blah. Because it's such an awkward conversation. You like to sit there and say that other people think you domino think you're very smart Gill. Like it's like, I'm a grown woman. I'm not a seven year old kid for diva. She was trying to kind of peel to her like in insecurities kind of thing. She did stay on embarrassed and stuff. Well, you're completely on the stand that moods Mer and her trying to do that. But I still feel like you're still saying you're dumb, but I think she's embarrassed because she was like on a robbed. She was not science. She's embarrassed because she's dumb. You know what I mean? It means if I told you to starts jot down, a half often starts skating and you landed starting to face your arm embarrassed, but you don't know. Hey, that doesn't mean you dumb. It means you just had shown it signing and you look idiot. How good was look like? She was rafting all the way to like jury villa or something. Probably the best of the whole. Cease going. So. She should start a rafting company. Could get lost. Funny. Like, and then when she was like Carter turn, it felt like Botha hand guy in like that were like, oh, and and the other one's Khanna like going the same way. So they're going guesting. But like in that moment, all my go-to, how upset would you be if you were and like all the cameras, just like what chain you ever on waiting and you can't spin this giant banana ram. It's. It's. McQueen matter in the in the early stages of the game or whatever. If you if someone other than to say, for instance, that was stave or whatever. It wouldn't be funny. It'd be like we need to get rid of him because he shit. The difference Steve's oversea like where she's now that that doesn't even come up because it's more of a numbers guy netted edited benefit. Now it's a benefit to be lost on the on the RAV because neyla I can be heard. It's like, maybe maybe that's what you do. Maybe when you get to the fun, I'd also just like completely stuff up every reward challenge because it doesn't matter. And people will think you're so-so so bad, like do it in the most dramatic fashion so that people aren't worried about you exactly get lost in the book. Exactly that know. They've never never going to worry about you in the in the challenges to where the net class I saw. Look, it's crazy, man. The guy in flips try. Sorry. Hard to a lot of it is locked to some degree, but a lot of it is like he will that aren't able to create opportunities for themselves. Like needs to be out of cry, an opportunity and that. And you only though I you do that is belive. He's writing a law, but I'm still struggling to get that from the season when Benji was like really throwing them out of there. Yeah. And he was maybe doing too many like he fought to me. The. Before we move on from Monica, I just wanted. So what is it? Why, why, though is the showing giving her such a bad edit? I have never seen someone cry, and while they're crying, they're getting the dodo music in the toll like it's usually it's usually like no music all the like sad violins to really kind of emphasize how sad that she was getting like the little ding, symbols and stuff while she was crying and talking about how you know it's hard to hurt people. It's like, what was the show doing this to her look like? What is it. Because I think the show loves a can ugly. Mix it up? Yeah, it makes it up like that gives them gives them something to go is under Slough off. Think that she's getting the patriot of ink. She's getting the edit wishy lands third full. And she hasn't been a standout other than the funny moments. Whereas the bellyflop was to stand up to him. On the belly flop and get raw. Time. I feel like if she was better at articulating hisself than someone said this to me on Twitter, that maybe she would be getting Bitta because she is. She has been in this really good spot for three weeks, two weeks in Iran it, but she thinks she knows how to sell and it's all about. It's a TV show. You're gonna be out of sell what you're doing and the we'll come along on the journey with you. I think she kind of like maybe what you say about peaches, kind of collapsing under the white of the game. And while she's doing the right thing in the game, I don't think she knows how to articulate that. So it's because like you said, yeah, the highlights. What are we going to remember? We're going to remember her getting lost in a big banana and full falling flat on five. Oh, five years? Like assuming cheese, like. She's still barely well on the Mark. I love see side by she hasn't. She hasn't created, you know, might be massive time at other than those moments by she still has. She's done was she's had to going exactly what state did buddy at the, but doing what you have to do, not going that extra. Sometimes why you get those, we'd edits and it can't like you can't hide yourself or you're not yourself. Sorry, you can't like copy disappointed if if you're traveling you're not in not in. Yeah, you given the show anything to work. You need to give them options to which why they're going to go, how they could sell the episode. They could read it as is a guy also TV sees you if you if the the savant you nothing the Gulf war and you come second or they're going to give you nothing. On the automating because you got nothing signed bags. Just feel like Lou is. She comes said, that's what she go. She got that third know and that's, that's what I sees that third on from the beginning that she was my Winnipeg before the show started. I don't know why. At least she still this. And that's one thing about since since the merge is said that she's going to come second people now who is not going to take to the end. And I think that people are going to take it at the end and that she gets zero votes except maybe against the people that hype, if it's her born, it figure grabby through the end. She's going to be, what is it that is that she because if I do tune it's going to be who's Americans you go. Warmer and more on blank right now, rob Russell and Natalie Nedeli not Natalie. What's the look? Those were Sandra poverty, poverty poverty. So she would be the poverty who Russ loop if it's a tune and instead of its grabbing her on my God. No one has Amit compared money. Get a poverty before. Really would because poverty was actually really, really loved playing the game. I think that the better comparison is Natalie that Natalie who went with Russell Russell Brussels, everyone over and then every vote, a phonetically. Yeah, but I'm not signing the end guy. Mom saying that poverty stuck. Why Ross and on k.. That comparison. You buy shoes be, you know who to give it to Russell poverty if it's to give it. So that's what I'm saying. Like if she has chosen to go, that's while in what head Arctic rob in his head, he's like, I'm gonna get rid Steve. I'm gonna split up the gills and then it hopefully plays auto get side, win. The laws challenge the we've Monica, lawn commodity wins. I mean, I could be story. Oh, God on. I think we need that. I feel I get mad Christie lodge from from Monica ready. So I don't know if we need another Christine. We've had one was flying, but we don't need to. So let's talk about just before the second travel council. The plan is going to be a to to to Monica and Brian and Monica, and shawnee and Fennell said they're going to do to to, and then whatever the other two that Sean shine vote for, then they'll do it on a river, and it worked out really well, but you can send that that was opening the door for Monica to flip, and that three vote was then going to be enough. Yeah, that's definitely a chance for happening, but it didn't. I just felt you've got to be happy with, you know, that's how confident he is pretty really wasn't confident because he sent schone goes splashdown her. And when she comes back for the Bush's, not all we would just getting changed. Is there any merit in this idea like you told me run? Is there any mirror in Bryan in that moment is feeling knock right about Monica and she wants switch. You don't want to give her that opening with the two, two, two. So we tell Monica that we're voting for Steve. And instead you Fennell at Brian vanilla and shawny over if you're Sean. And in the three one of will still be taught. Yeah, that's true. That was tricky. Off, think like personally, all to just put all the numbers, probably on one person. All like a lot of sometimes I do wanna risk of for the the auto and stuff, but is is sometimes stuff as long one. Like you are very risky player. I think that's in a lot of these people's ruled playbook. Yeah, sometimes splitting that can be more riskier than, yeah, I guess that's what we're saying that it's is. It is pretty risky as well. So that's why I'm just like look about all of us because then then what it does is when you start splitting at all, that's when are coming. You know what I mean? You know what? That's just say. You join. Exactly. You know, or test or whatever. You know what I mean? I think that the weed thing about this was that Sean in her pitch to Monica. I think that Sean calculated wrong. She goes to Monica. Lew. Brian's plan is to get rid of Steve, then get rid of Shane, then get rid of me. You're basically telling Monica that if you stick with Brian, you're going to the top four is like you're not incentivizing her to come with you. Oh, completely. And that's why our say from episode, the biggest like folk that they have. Like you how, how some people don't want to law will you? You had a perfect truth to come back and sit there and throw grab onto the boss while saying, we had a chat to him and said, you're gonna vote out. Are you gonna vote out Steven? He goes, yes. I'm gonna vote out Stephen than we asked about the goals and we told him about us to and he said, start wire on voting next. Yeah. So you can easily start grab on Taiwan about what does that what you said? You know? Well, I'm just repeating what he said, you know, and then you don't have to lie just pretty much just trying to under the bus sign that he's planning on. Split news up next next. Okay. So one of the things I thought was interesting is. Again, another full of harebrained schemes this week. I don't know why. I think I was just trying to make it more exciting than maybe it was drinking. There was any sense that Brian could have would have played if he really thought that Monica was no longer with them. Dragon, he would've ever played his auto on vanilla. Why hell that to harebrained scheme. No wife. Again, there's there's no way you'd risk it. You'd give got lots how many, how many times can you hold it for now? Two more terms. Yeah, exactly. Would you ever play audible and someone else Lou fool, you know, may probably could. And would. I'll probably would be honest like by, that's that's may just like you. Being like enjoying myself out there. Do one of the one of the questions, and I think I asked you this, maybe daytime, like, do you do you feel like the pressure of playing the game, or do you kind of go whatever works works and what doesn't doesn't like, and if it'll blows up in my face, then big deal or do you, do you actually feel the pressure of the game or is that really how you approach it like, oh, well. Audit feel the pressure of the game all on. My in my other sit there and guide like you might after the guy like damn. In the in the heat of the moment on just like in China, enjoy myself rather than because that's really when you leave the guy when you come sick or you come, I will you come force whatever you want to be out to go one, join it rather than men. I've come back bold. I agree. I agree from space you on. I definitely feel like I tried to straddle that line of stressing out too much, but also just go. And do you know I'm playing survivor. I'm going to swing for the fences and I tried that and sometimes it works. Sometimes it didn't, and I feel like that's what some some of the players in this season have been doing, and it's made them really memorable and greatly parts of the show. And it's worked out in some regards, but I feel like a lot of people have been afraid to do that. But regardless the season has worked out in a way that it's been pretty interesting, so I can't blame it too much. Yeah, one of the things that a lot of people go in Nick is not about this week was the sanctimony of the. Do you wanna just explain what's happening in the background for the listeners so that can exert. It sounds like you're building until Pedo. So. Got the Mexi making. Now, I think funny. Alexa catching trying that Luke is as graciously slid us slid us in on his commuter works. If you're hearing. Doodo. So funny like measured if I like like something happens a little, try that like anymore. Like like a crash, you'll it got stuck in under a tunnel or something. Yeah. Or someone tries rub me or so. Well, you've got you have thousands of listeners who can be your witness if you need a religious police reporter. So a lot of people were saying it was very sanctimonious the way that shine and Sean were behaving and they were kind of talking about them as the good guys, and it was very kind of being Shane's like biggest fan this whole season. And I think that Sean is going to win, and I'll be very happy with Sean win. But I do feel like that they were kind of strutting that lawn between, you know, that kind of season one mateship that got a lot of people's noses out of joint and a lot of people like you better talk about this this week. Did it kind of did it kind of did you think of that while while you were watching it in terms of them saying Brian, such Eliah and Brian is such a cheetah, and it's like, that's what everyone's doing. Did that kind of come up to you if anyone can kind of relate to? This is probably you know, Incas you all the snake right. Man, screw the good God while act. If anything, anyone who's that cod, I actually go completely guide style like all time. Think a laugh at that way. And then kinda love to say that personnel to be us. Because if you're going to sit there and side, we're good and they're bad, like oil guy on the mainland, get him out. If you can, you know, you hadn't probably thousand chances to get him out, but you never did. It just seems crazy to me that they did the same thing to Lydia and now and now this. Yeah, engine oil, if you if you didn't like me that loan or whatever, and he's so knowing, well, why didn't you get him out earlier? Gave him out when he got a chance, but you chose to choose the Nydia because she was strong, but now he's a mowing, so he's needs to go. I saw whatever, whatever, really searching. That's why went Sean says it. She goes real. I really need to voice. We've me for her guy and my day in here. Yeah, it was. I mainly really feel see when Brian said that he was the king of the jungle. How did that make you? Did you hear that or not. At least that is when when did he say that? He said it in the second episode. So each come as coming. He's coming for your crown leaf. Oh God, God. The king, the king who saw. King of the. While sounds he at least he didn't try untrimmed his lands manscaping cell phone on on TV. In. Around this time that we award the dandy. So this is the three points to the best player. The two points to the to the second fire one point to the therapist player. So you know, it's been a pretty close race between Sean SRI between Benji and Matt this whole game, but they're out now and now we've go Sean who's kind of bubbling away at the top of the pile. But a few people who have the capacity to catch it of the three people. All the people who votes to give me your three votes. So only one three later. All into a bar. Yeah, me too. I think. So what what? Why? Why? Brian this week. Because a is as put a name on his Lawrence grabby skills. He's obviously an in law from them earn stuffing shunning somehow, you know, you being super talk with someone from a different Trow is is what linked to apply. You know, you need to find the connections across trou- across the champions contenders between cares anymore. And my only because he's gone out in the last man. That's what he wanted to do. So he wanted to do that and did it. So what about your two points? Because I'm going to give mine to Monica. She feel like you know, for we spoken a lot about what she how she might not the way to the end probably. But I do think she has done a lot of good and a lot of people played pretty poorly this week. I think that Monica is also a really good liar like she looks people straight away and says, one hundred percent hundred percent. So I'm going to get much you go, it's Monica. What about you. Allwood give more onto its oil automotive. Ostensibly thing that she probably deserves invite ninety one, but I still feel the Shula and Sonoda. Sanal off. Okay. So who you give him to give it to go Leyla or like, what should I. One, eight of the two Shaw. You can make the rusoff. That's fine one to them and they want to Monica. So what does it mean Fennell and Fennell and showing you that you think has been. Was worthy of the the point is. Well, they're both student? Yes. I been knowing that they're like glued and not one time as as dawn on anyone's split. And what about your one point? You said Monica. Okay. Well, I'm gonna give him at one point to show any because I think that you know, she wasn't the target and Fennell was, and I think is because of her social capital. And again, so I'm gonna go one point, two, shawnee. So as the as the numbers in do, it's definitely got a bit of a playing field opening up here, so that's good. I know that you know, you're busy on you either work, but I've got a couple of questions that I'd love to see from the from the listens if you'd love to honor to them for us. Have you been doing any creeping in the bushes, lightly. That's from like I thought stock or even. Yes, I've LeMoyne Jason wants to ask if you, if Luke who is the king or Queen of the jungle, this seasons out of everyone try with king of the giant our side. Well, you Benji. Outside him, dozens aid manage to like doing new. His incurred like all, which is a scientist on grade, and then he managed to like get off the first two or three. Mike's, yes, he's and the Queen would have to be. For me. Starting. Love shine. Queens shine is I'm all set. Say show asked, would you be willing to play again for old-style season. And what would you change in your strategy? Because these apparent in question Luke because I don't know if you saw there was a poll on the Estrela and saliva superfan group of all the pas poss- players and Luke, you sitting very clearly at the top with nearly full hundred votes of the person that everyone would like to see back. Did you see this. So I kinda like super oughta know Luke, thanks everyone. As far as you want wants to see me that if I was going to play a game on, or you know if I'm was like you set goals for yourself and started the guy as on trying to do that and get set of dolls, and to see how they. No. So our award on June curry, Ernest, Ernest, Nick, comes back. Stays. Think you on your own. Jonathan Lilia says, would you want Indian food as a reward. It will go straight for you yet. Grubbies pants are going to get a little bit grubbier. Oh man. Yeah, that's like veggies. Vanni ground. After Indian fade? Yeah. And Christian says, shooed exile have had some advantage to trust shake up the game. So you've said already that exile and you can lie and come up with your own advantage, but do you think the show should have made it that there was an immunity auto clue out there or something. I think there should be selling there. Even if it's like. Something like on like something bad you have to do while you're there, say you say, okay, you already struggling out there, but we're gonna make you really struggle out there. You can choose to really struggle like to the point where you break up and you then get reward United Site. It'll take down to depths of like whether you have to eight like a wiles surprise. Struggle. You like all mad audit. All of that Cade on Wales pain in. Comedy dance. Of rivers that lot would test your, how much do you want to win the guy on the way? Oh, pain is strategy. I know. I know. Well, I know. This mute. If like you did it and the the, the actual war was like. Right. Just appeal of you. God. Oh my God. Well, league last question. Last question, you know, you've just come back from his trip from from Disneyland. Who from these cars would you bring with you on a trip to Disneyland? Oh. Hurry Sime because she's old and I don't know if he's done it. So if you're not old, you could be have many years in your loss in could be lot. You know. You know, everyone come with head on why you wanna bring Shane, right? Because you Huby like the mother that holds the bags while you get to go on all the rides. Got those live big swimming, sold old, a little bag. Leaker live. Why is it? Why is it? This was actually a question from from Jason gates. It was the same. Same question. He asked the Disneyland question. Why is it that you can get away with saying things that any other survival, any other person could never get away? And I'm sure you know that you have this ability just seems like the reaction to you saying things like my first instinct is the law. But if someone else said, I'll probably be a lot. That's so dumb. What, why tell me tell me how you have made that happen because if you could bottle that I think you'd be in a really, really good position. So what is it that you, how do you, how do you do. Look at it comes, it comes with like you want to learn more secret potion. Now I'm on my artist are. I could never replicate it if I tried. So there's no me trying to steal your secrets to do. I think everyone's going to be in United States every everything. Everything has its moment. You need to know how you can push it and then what I'll try to size. I'll take payment to the edge of the cliff and and then I'll bring him back in Iowa or whatever, like you just have to type in need to. That it all comes from a place of like on, like there's never, there's never any like that and ten. All members sign joy about someone else I fly. So just for pure Huma and because all I, I'm gonna good Tong. Luke, I, if you could ever run a call one day, I'll gladly sewing up. I think I could get away with a lot more work than I currently do. So. Go on Louis. That brings us to the end of the podcast. Thank you so much. I know that you are clearly in-transit to to work. It's not easy to kind of like the giving up your time, especially how busy you are coming back for American kids in everything. I know that the listeners really appreciate it. We need the people trying to create turn. I'm sure they tell you kids to be caught doing. Is this the people that are going to mug? You'll this the judge? Okay. Well, we need we. We didn't hashtag for this episode and on. I think we can go past Wales. Comedy names. Males pain is is going to be one of the most terrific hashtags we have ever had on this show, and I think it's appropriate. I think it's appropriate. Go to for having us. Where can people find you on social media to keep up with you? It's really different tack. What is original Urgel tag. It's taking on a year. So this is on instead, have you ever thought about joining Twitter. No, I haven't got enough social media. Instagram keeps me busy busy enough. Luke, thank you so much. 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Episode 142: Private Robinson on Pawnee Rock

the memory palace

09:28 min | 1 year ago

Episode 142: Private Robinson on Pawnee Rock

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That is Evelyn dot com slash memory ever lane dot com slash memory. This is the memory palace. I'm nato. Having left seeing those behind private Robinson said out a news first mission into the west along the Santa Fe trail, so many, Americans traders trappers in scouts and soldiers had done before him. Since misery, man, had I carved out the route in eighteen twenty one afterward had travelled north that Mexico having freed itself from Spanish rule was opened for business. Now in June of eighteen forty six private. Jacob Robinson of New Hampshire road out with the first Missouri mounted volunteers one of five hundred new recruits eager to cross the continent, and take the south west away from Mexico, the March fifteen miles a day, most days following the hoof in footprints of earlier, expeditions, the rutted paths, carved out by wagon wheels now green, Dover and Wildflower Kansas unfurling in all directions. The shush of tall grass, the buzz of summer bugs, the air, private Robinson, right? And private Robinson. The son of newspaper man could ride. He wrote a shout of joy ran through all the ranks is they inhaled the clean air, the green and sunny prairie, he would remember a thousand miles on. That rush of relief that feeling of being finally three as the confinement of the Ford marching, and sir all the drills and the dust now behind them now replaced by open fields, and endless sky, an air suite with primrose lavender and prairie flocks distant campfires, the sounds of creeks in chickens in entourage of civilians, accompanied them Cooper's wheel rights, and varies in the like men in some women who knew the trail, we'd waited its head looking to attach themselves to a wagon train who can pay for their particular expertise or provide safety in numbers for a trip through country claimed by the United States. But uncontrolled for the volunteers, everything was new when they were making good time on flat ground, the Rockies the desert, we're still just stories. They'd heard. Did came upon places where native bands spent the nights before fresh prince extinguish fires tip grounds were tented starting horses had lane. They'd pass farms in villages in gardens of the tribes, leading other lives here. Other languages in English to learn by the shawnee and Delaware from other travelers, and Jacob Robinson the private the writer son would see at least one of those communities tribe, whose name he didn't note, or didn't know and thought they seem to enjoy a better way of life, he'd ride out there and the wide wild prairie with the flowers, grow the birds sing in nature is decked in beauty. Then the one his own people had brought to the continent. Then on the eighteenth day of their deployment some five hundred miles into a trip that would take them three thousand more, and what would become the longest marched by an army since Alexander. The greats the March that would take them to the foot of jagged peaks that stretched heavenward and left the easterners dumbstruck that would have the marching for days of ground that shuttered in crack above cities, Doug by prairie dogs over San that burn their feet through their shoes. That would see two thirds of their horses. Dive exhaustion of, of malnutrition, or felled by coyotes and the night, so others, wander off and take to the wild the March that would see them fight a Mexican battalion twice their own size in win and take Paso, and another as much as four times their own number and take Chihuahua, and we'd have them sailing to New Orleans and up the Mississippi back home, one year in five thousand five hundred miles later. Lindmark appeared in the distance Ponti Rockland at the edge of the rise up from the flat of land impressive. In that context, though, it was little more than one hundred feet at its tallest point, no taller than these, no tree, for decades, likely centuries. It had been the site of battles into peace councils between Comanche in Keila in Ponti and Cheyenne into rap. Oh, but by then when the men of the army of the west came upon it, it was mostly a sign that you are going, the right way. The place to find some shade on route to Santa Fe in water you horses at the creek that ran beside. There were many names chipped into its face. Some painted in a mixture of tar and animal fat left by travellers pass that way before. And so, in July eighteen forty six private Robinson climbed Ponti rock. Maybe to find a good place to carve his name and not knowing that, just a few years later, another travel around as way to claim his own plot in what would then be American lens. Right. That there were so many names in the rock that there wasn't room for his Robertson climb that knowing that a town would be incorporated, right there called, Ponti rock. Stop on the railroad that would roll through there just twenty years later, not knowing that the shawnee in the Delaware, and the unnamed tribe. He so admired at the edge of the frontier wouldn't be there for much longer. Was it the rocky was climbing with someday? Be shorter by maybe forty feet because it road crew would need that stone in the next century to pave part of the prairie and lay down. What would be US highway fifty six that can take you from Kansas City to Santa Fe and eleven hours and change, depending on traffic in private Robinson reached the top of Ponti rock and looked out to the west vast in unknown and saw a herd of buffalo a quarter million strong. The grand aside I ever beheld every acre was covered until in the dim distance the prairie became one black mass extending to the Reisen going on forever. This episode of memory palace was written and produced in stuff by me, with engineering assistance from, Elizabeth, obair research assistance from allies, McGraw, the show is, proud member radio topa from pure X collective of independent podcasts trying to keep the medium free and open a so many investment firms in media conglomerates look to put up a parking lot. You can find out more about the other radio shows, including our friends at the truth, dynamite show of audio fiction, which just launched a new series that you just might love really Toby dot FM. To find out more as always, you can follow me at the memory palace on Twitter, and our Facebook or drama line at Nate at the numbers dot org listening. Radio. Ex-.

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Amandla Stenberg & Yvonne Orji (ft. Who Dat?)

Who? Weekly

1:17:39 hr | 9 months ago

Amandla Stenberg & Yvonne Orji (ft. Who Dat?)

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You don't Bobby Finger What was the? Um Did you forget how I'm trying to say. I'm bobby finger. I'm Lindsey Weber and we are joined today kids not your turn yet. We're not cutting any of this. He seemed like she like call at Huda. Let me start over. We're going to you guys. It's a pandemic. And we give bobby break like. I am so sick of hearing all of this like criticism. Okay in case you couldn't tell. This is another episode of who we are joined by me not to so and Johnny Hilton a via Zen caster. Thank you send castor We're all over the world. That's not mention that he's role. Who that is. You do not get credit bobby. Keep it together. Employees like we are being reported by Beep I put. I put a blue bill box. Bluebell carton on our instagram today. Because someone called about common cold in about Neopolitan ice cream and everyone's like first second. I thought this is blue. Bell Spun and I was like. Oh Yeah I shouldn't have put a brand. I shouldn't put brand on the grid. Can I gave the brand free advertise out there? Because then the brands reach out. And they're like you want some free Blue Bell and you're like no. I want your money like I don't want the ice cream but I do want well bobby. This is the problem with that. It's like seventeen steps forward. And then you post a fucking brand on the Grad without talking to us. I thought you were on my team earlier. And now you're against me just like on your team but now I was on your team and then I realized and yeah like get bothered listening the this experience everyone being virtual everyone being offered to everyone being remote. We've always tried to go against us but now fully like we gotta do more of these because this is working for us. This is working. We're fine fine. This is fucking. We can't go this far. That'd be the best episode of ever go this long between who? That's because we're you know far apart. This is working so for those of you. Who Don't know who that is our I would say annual semi annual monthly. I don't know our semi regular semi regular. I think it's been less than we were in that hotel room. Yes and we got champagne. Oh it's our semi regular installment of who really focusing on black. Who's with I mean on? Shawny with us and we talk about black whose Or just anyone we WANNA talk about literally. We talk about black people because let's be real a water the black whose are just like they're black. Them's that this audience things are. Who's that's exactly the case. That's why we have you on correct so we talk about black black them's and their who our audience there for them. They're them's which great. What do we have a peer? I she would just get right into it. I mean in the spirit of the show if we're GONNA if it's GonNa be a show about black whose let's get the. Who's out of the way so we can focus on where the WHO's I? My favorite tweet in the like in quarantine has truly truly been this. It's an announcement from a website called gossip of the city that I've never heard of that is like Hashtag. Azalea and Hashtag playboy card. Cardi welcomed their child over the weekend and someone and someone quote tweeted it. Someone that I follow tweeted with an unspeakable evil has been. These are my favorite announcements. Because nobody knew she was pregnant they was like suspicion but no one cared enough to do the research or like actually call and ask or the photo also. I was on. I was on Metro Dot. Co Dot UK and their source for the actual pregnancy is a website. I've never heard of it said back. In December Hollywood unlocked reported sources. Close to the couple of confirmed that he was six months pregnant. Hollywood unlocked. I mean at this Johnny Otani? Are you just president? Obama over there editor in Chief. Papa would unlock backer put at least one point. Five into that type. Wait we're talking about egg. Not because she is a black who but because so with whom she has Possibly welcome this child is Playboy Carney who are the Wa- summer from Playboy Cardi? He had like was making sounds on his last album. Here's the thing with playboy Cardi. Yes just make sounds. He is also not consistent so everyone is obsessed about the disturbance in the forest. Because it means that like you know he's not going to deliver a music And also your you know it. Like who cares about this weird. I'm just like how did these people are having a baby. And why am I even hearing about it? We weren't they robbed like. That's the only news that I remember about them. Is that a few months ago or a while ago. They were robbed and it was really bad and they were both like. Oh my God but the news that people got from them being rob were. They're dating. They live together. That was like what we got from that. Which is truly iconic over three hundred and fifty thousand dollars of jewelry also arrested on gun charges earlier. This month enjoyed Atlanta. Well you know. Welcome to Igloo. Valia and playboy Cardi's baby so that's the that's the news for. It doesn't doesn't have a name right now. We don't even know if it's confirmed we didn't even have a birth date or ab- size or anything just said over the weekend the tweets. You guys the tweet. Responses are pretty amazing. Someone is like what the hell is this baby going to sound like and then again they just make its first. Words are going to be a win. Win Win Win Win. Oh my God that's literally. That's what someone said. Bobby someone said someone said I love Cardi but the baby will have the worst voice of all time and someone in win a week so we know we know win coach and someone else said this baby versus the grimes baby question. Mark the grind people be in a super truck and run. That today is going to win. This baby was abby. Has All this technology deal with? I'd be afraid of the grind. Oh my God another tweet says you know what that video of her rapping sounds like they make a good little do and then and someone else. My favorite reply is this inexplicable one. I have a sneaky suspicion and a strange sensation about this whole situation. That's like a universal. Okay great I mean this has turned out to be great news for us. I'm going to start responding to cheese tweets with. I'm crying news news. I need to immediately unlearn for two hundred dollars back. Thank you don't worry it won't be brought up. I wouldn't worry about it. I'm crying. Thank you to Hashtag Playboy Cardi and to Hashtag igloo Azalea for providing this. What else you got here. What else is who we on this list that you claim. Well if we're GONNA talk about a baby. Masha llah because is usually a deed and Zine Hadeed are expecting a Muslim babies so I'm excited about the modern with Ramadan. These pregnancies is that like a thing. Muslim power the power of that announcement. What's what was his. What was his demeanor? Have some sort of. He didn't fully leave the church but didn't he make some comments about like how he doesn't really like practices his religion anymore. Like he's not. He doesn't identify as Muslim. Zane headaches. Ain-hadi. He said he didn't there was. He had some sort of weird new relationship with relations with religion. He was like. I'm only like partly Muslim. Now what did he say? Oh He's just non-practising because he didn't want oh I don't want to be defined by my religion okay. I thought it was more dramatic than that. Yeah no one was defining you buy your religion. Zane had first of all relaxed my other. Fatal were barely defining. That's true well. One time I'll never forget this usually interview. I will never forget. This interview. Went because she liked definitely dabbles in like like the minute that she realized that like being Muslim something that would give her an edge over the calabasas girls. She started dabbling but there was this like interview where I forget. They were talking about something serious and then she whispered and she goes well. You know my boyfriend is Middle Eastern. And you're like he is half Irish and half Pakistani like nominal eastern things. That shocked me when I was reading about that. It's not shocked but I was like yes air so young they were. She was fifteen when she started dating right when she was twenty. Now that's like it really does feel like small town. America exists in Calabasas. Where you just get you have your baby with your exists on the Deed Light. Pennsylvanian farm where they're currently living right now with the rest of the Yolanda. There ought to be informed. This is all this is all Kylie's honestly like the minute that you let like teen. Pregnancy thrive all of the other? Teens will think that it's okay. And she found herself pregnant quarantine and she was just like you know my good friend. Kylie like didn't graduate high school is doing this and then everyone is cool. 35-billion-dollar just bought a thirty six dollars. She's doing okay. I don't know if you've read that. She's the youngest self made billionaire entering year. We we have the Rita. She bought a thirty six point. Five million dollar resort her only hills that is I have a question about. I have a question about Kylie. Have you seen pictures of Travis Scott recently? No I've only seen him in fortnight. Really know what he looks like. He has so many fillers in his face. Like it's actually wild. Jeez so weird I mean I think that's Chris impacts like you can't date or have a baby in her family and she's not going to send you to her doctor by it was a real. I haven't seen that. Oh Yeah No. His face is lifted. He has a new knows. He's definitely has a great dermatologist. So you know. There's a lot happening there but the face is it is funny to me that like one of like a barrier to entry to joining the family among all. I mean beyond every other thing that it would require to meet these people as okay. You're going to need to get a lot of surgery because this is a family that loves getting. We look like if you want to fit in. Yeah we all have to look like each other. We have to have the same. Everything is family including our doctors including Durham's including our everything dentists. It makes you wonder when like like who's like the first child of theirs. That's going to have surgery. It's his it's GonNa be home. It's GonNa believe Mason or leg. The thing is that like the technology has gotten better so I really think it's not surgery. It's a lot of yes you're not. You're not you're not it's casual versus it's just casual needles. Why like Kylie without the lips right now is so it's so surreal air? Like wow like you know the old faces creeping back in and I love it but it is truly nuts. The boyfriend and husband aesthetic also follows the same. It's wild right can felt like pressure to really. Connie is like a whore cracks here. We can't talk about it. He's like I just heard about him for the first time in a while and I was sort of like oh right. Connie exists like I feel like Kim is alone in that house with You know her well Organized Pantries and sinks and like the babies and I forget the cons because he did an interview where he was like. Don't forget I'm very rich. Like he was like I'm rich again. I'm very rich you know. He's a billionaire. Yeah there was there was there was pr about how. He's a billionaire. But I am trying to follow the money trail and it's a very murky so I think that Shawnee should get the times on it because it smells okay so as someone. Who'S A finance expert? Your financial advisor. Bobby what could he be that rich conceivably on because with the fashion make enough money because I thought was one of the things about fashion brands. Like it's really hard for them to actually be profitable but like make. What do I know like is it? I mean I don't think that he's making profit as much as like they like adidas throws a bunch of money on him so it's still spawn like even though he makes his own true. I just but the thing that I am questioning is the timing of that announcement. It's not the actual deal. Yeah it's very possible. That Adidas is foolish and giving me too much money but just no. I'm just like we're literally in a global pandemic on his announcement in the pandemic is like. Hey all I'm rich. It's like really. We're all watching ourselves become enrich so this is really. I don't I don't buy it and also I'm just like of course. You're richer Mary to Kim Kardashian. All you have to borrow some from her and your mind so what I'm curious about is over. All the artists who like live on a knife's edge things to live nation and their live performances like everybody summer like all. These artists are going to come out. This summer broke all these big towards. That's why nobody wants to put out there albums because they can't make that tore money. Which is all the money poor Taylor swift which is like shortsighted. I get it but it's shortsighted because we're going to have a glut of albums in the fall and we're really cool. What a too many a glut of albums and Chromatic nowhere to okay okay. We can't get into Gramatica here. Let's not let's hold off on the chromatic. I saw little black. Whose would you call her? I saw I was looking at us. Weekly uh food which is one of the funniest verticals on US weekly and speaking of Kim's cabinets very them e. cabinets but I saw did a cabinet tour and it was really because he is without a doubt extremely rich but enter cabinet. Looks like the cabinet of a rich person but it's also like sort of cluttered like you can tell. She didn't get the home edit like she didn't she didn't hire the helmet. It's just like a normal rich person's cabinets and I was like. I don't WanNa see a rich person's cabinets unless they were really expensive. Like unless you hired someone to do this. Just put the Lincoln there under playboy Cardi and stuff. It's less California closets. I'm going to shop. Shawny GonNa ask you something and please. Don't cancel me. Is it Tia or tomorrow? That's married to the white man. And which one of them is on the TV show? Why each me? I love it you think I know the answer to that. Look Tia. Maori That or are they both married to a white man. I think they're both married to white man. It's only one of them. That said she was called the White Man's horror though. Oh Yeah I'm like basically my question is which one is the white man for. I don't know why you guys are laughing like this direct quote from yourself like I don't creek. I remember this. I remember I just completely. I hadn't thought about the longtime I think was Tamara. To IOS husband is black to Mara's husband is I believe White Adam Housley Okay Royal Housley. Because they're not because they are not friends. The last time I checked in on them wasn't a very early episode of WHO DOT and they did not follow each other in the now and so they're like that's like old year old girl who follow God they do. They do battling lifestyle content. I mean they're all over each other's place because they're both doing the same type of stuff online. I mean pantries and chillier. They're twins lifetime movies. It's funny that the only photo the only photos of the two of them together on T- on tomorrow's grid are flashback. Fridays like it's just old photos of them as children. There are no closer to them in the same frame as adults. You're saying they're not friends. But in two thousand nineteen there were headlines that tomorrow was drinking tea as breast milk for healing properties. You guys remember that I guess like. Here's what I'M GONNA say about. Tia and Tamara and whatever Taj Mallory is that they were the og new. You're going to say they had like they had a moment and family or whatever but I really think that like black people egging me like we don't give a shit about Tia as like J. or not we care about their contat zero to eighteen. We do not care about their content like in adult era. And so it's sort of the. Let's journey just in new trailer. Jordan is mobbed. Bobby was like journey. And I'm like let's talk about just see like Jesse's been back in the headlines again like Jesse still like he's back in the headlines. Journey a divorced journey. God's divorced so shout out to journey good for you congratulations. She's keeping the bell or do you think she's just going to do you think. She's going to remain journey. Smollet belt or demon. She's GonNa strike the Bell Bell Anymore. There's no drop the bell. She's got a doctor go. I was I was just saying we're going to talk about journey but then obviously Jesse I don't know what is just season the news weights not not not to stop you but you were going to say something about Tamara. That's why that's what I WANNA go back to. Oh I was just saying that. They're not really in the culture. I feel like they. Yeah I feel like they're not really part of because they wanted to become like they're like low rent they're like Louis I get it. They WANNA be like lifestyle. Mommy bloggers essentially okay. Who's next are we moving on from the small? Edits the small? It's do you add another small at you. Want to discuss comedies. Mullets are there. Well we could do jockey as up to. Let's see. Hey what's up guys? It's more Housley. And this is my husband Housley. We are so excited to announce our new summer series called that House Li Life. If you falls on social media or you see on television you know. That's all about family and friends whether it's in southern. California here in Wine Country. We love getting everyone together. And what ensues is usually love and chaos. Invite you to the House Li Life. Hi Guys. What's up to you? Maury here so I am really excited to introduce my youtube channel. Maurice quick fix we all have those little dilemmas in life. That could use a fast and quick solution. Any kid would love to have this. I mean I would love to have this so whether it's a week night meal for picky eaters or organizational hacks to manage the clutter simple beauty solutions for windows running late. Mom Mom mom. I want to move onto the topic. I want to go to Rashida Jones. I know this is controversial. Because she is them and then we're talking about her. But I do think the realization that you guys had with her and this new show was really funny to me. I mean okay. So Rashida Jones's in a new netflix. Tv show people have a lot of very strong feelings about the show. You can Google Hashtag block AF reviews and there are like you know there's all sorts of reviews about it the thing that I really all sorts of personally I was on. I'm just saying people have feelings. I personally like have not seen. I have not seen the show and I probably won't and so like so for those reasons like the reviews didn't really mean anything to me. The thing that I thought was like insane coming into reading coverage of the TV show was that we like you know like when you just realize that you personally are older than you think you are. Which like every day in your mid thirties. I feel that you're like Oh my God I could be a hundred years old or it could be twelve years old depending on who? You're talking to you but anyway my moment of being like I am a thousand years old was when I realized that like one particular section of the Internet have been fighting all day because they thought that Rashida Jones was like Was playing a black character and they were really offended by this and then come to find out. It's because they didn't know that Rashida Jones is black and so that the brain explosion Emoji that was me one hundred times over and I just had to log off I was like I can't I you know I'm like I'M A. I'm a young person so I cannot be part of this narrative but it was truly. I didn't know that there are people who were old enough to be on the Internet. Who Do not know who Quincy Jones's and who all has like icon. Children are and so that was truly vein to me. This however reminds me of as slum what iconic moment where Rashida was like twenty fifteen inches of the sag awards and the TNT correspondent complimenting her and on my guy for she was like. I mean you know I'm ethnic amazing thank you so much Emanuel Ungaro while a class and beautiful so you've just come off like an island or something very tan very tropical. I'm ethnic so that's first of all you're you're icon Iq the fact that you're like the TNT's awards like like my mind. Our show they were talking to Juliana ran sick. It was about three minutes into their conversation. All My god of course it was Juliana. Ransack WASN'T NAMED DANIEL. Defoe Chinese from Afar Justice Justice Juliana who has other issues earlier Tan so anyway it's younger people who just had no idea. Oh Yeah it was. It was truly like watching someone I watched. Like many someone's over the course of the day realize that the Jones in Rashida Jones is Quincy Jones. And that like the idea that Rashid I would be anything other than the name of a black woman I mean. Here's the thing though that I will say in defense of those who are like. What is that her biggest roles parks and REC and the office she was not playing a demonstrably black or even really a person of color agree. If that's what your reference point is you might not know you might just think. She looks very tropical My favorite Rashida Jones character is in My idiot brother my idiot brother. Our idiot brother hold on. How is that movie all right? Here's the other thing is that I will say that having watched black AF and an owner of some strong opinions about it which I think it's both it like many things in this world. It's both good and bad. I will say that. She clearly relishes the role that she's been playing and she's sort of like the highlight of the show to me. Do you like something out of like. Oh like she's actually finally playing like you said it demonstrably like black woman on TV for the first time I just yes mean. She's an EP for the show. So it's clear that she helped craft the portrayal in a way that I think she probably hasn't had the opportunity to do so in most of her biggest roles do you think. All of the Angie Tribeca fans jumped over and are really interested. I what happened Angie TRIBECA. Are there anti tribeca fans? I don't know who the fans of that show but I remember that when I was watching blackish for like ten minutes. The one actor that I thought was hilarious. And blackish like went over Angie Tribeca and I was just like Angie Gimme my dude back so but I also only watch. I also only watch blackish for literally ten minutes is can you Barrasso? Who were them? The creator of blackish and Black AF. Who Okay there we go. I think Kenya is well. He's a he mixes it up so much black twitter and like in like he takes up an outside proportion of he's he's living rent-free in a lot of people's heads so I would I would just serve like being known to like a specific segment of the Internet. Probably means that you are not a- them William Battle that yes it's like if you're if you're a like a figure skater and you know even though you're a big one there's only space for like one figure skater in everyone's mind who isn't into figure skating right like that's tough so it's your if you're talking about like show runners show runners right. It's like okay. Who Am I going to know? Who am I going to remember because it depends on what shows you're watching which is always a case right and I mean this is what I will say in fairness to Kenya Berra's also that like he does not have You know like this is i. I WanNa say this first acting credit like like significant and so I think that the question of like are you or who or them. If you're a writer it's like it's not fair. It's not a fair question to ask because the point you know like he didn't get into the thing that he was doing to get famous. I think I always question like the them ness and like Hummus of someone on what their ultimate project is and if the project is famed than it's you know it's fair for it to be on the table so unclear about a show. I think the weirdest thing about it though. Is that the Anthony Anderson character on black ish is based on him. He wrote it based on himself but now he's doing another show based on himself but he gets to play it. So it's it's weird that there are these two versions of himself on television right now. Like one for network television one for like you know one for Television. That can be like. Tv is my favorite. That is my favorite thing of the Kenya. Barry story is like he has exactly one story and he spun out in five over and I was like that is. I have a lot to learn from that. We also have the the the what are the other spin offs. You have the one. That goes back in time mixed. That's three plus to me. There's the one. Isn't there the highschool one. 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Guys is next Huda episode so I just finished washing their hands touch Not Great but reminded me of my Member San and I just have a question for those of us who remember the time when she was our social like social warrior. Princess of the day she was she was grow. I know she's uncovered teams of those things. You did the go. Cash crop corn rows Video that went like super viral when crashes the boxer briefs. I think that was around the same time as being the biggest thing and she was going to be like the person on the Horse leakiest into battle and then I just feel like she went away. I mean she's been doing stuff but like she is out there in the ways that Yarra she heating is love. And both my question is did a man with Stanford walk so he could run Yes because I feel like they definitely switched batons. This is a weird question. I have I do think that they are Nisha them. Who's I even though? Your is on like the free forum shows and Blackish is like a huge show but I still feel like if I were to ask any Any of my friends who don't watch shift so I consider her so I mean shoddy. Can you guys talk a bit about the baton passing the happen between them I think and also am I right? Are they both? Who's let me know okay? So here's my first thought upon hearing that is that I think it's a really agree GIS case of erasure. These two are. It doesn't matter what these two are doing because then day out here. Doing everything caller you miss the point. I'm just kidding. Thank you so much. For that caller. 'cause I always love to get a very well thought through? Call the point of who that is always to go back to India or patriots because remember because remember on the first who that Shawnee. We were both in day our growth as fans. I know I am fully in the tank for I have to say. I started skeptical and now. I'M HER BIGGER SCAM. Gre- go what I'm going to say is that I think that's Zendejas. I just looked up all of their ages and as twenty three A Man Louis Twenty. One and your is twenty. So they're all very young but then as like a little bit ahead of them. I was reading an interviewer Amanda was saying that she's basically got off the grid which I think is true. She was very online and the last couple of years. We yeah like stop using Lezo. Do that weird movie. That was like everybody was kind of like making fun of that was so bad that Romania where she played a she literally yeah warehouses. Were Hands Tall. Okay that fell that kind of pushed her because that was just such a leg made fun of me is that no I mean. I think that a couple things happened. It's just up in the sorry. She also got caught up in the Hague give backlash for being light skinned at being fast enough in that film and I think that was hard on her persona that and the and the non living. I also think that people try to project too much on these kids like you are not GonNa Catch me dragging twenty three year old and a twenty year old. You know like I would never drag Sunday. I'm talking about others. Who Actors were discussing here but like you know there is something to me about this. It always disturbs me. When someone is like Omega like this person like your Shahid's entire Internet persona as that's right where people are like. Oh she's quitting James Baldwin. She's like doing this. And this and that and clearly I'm like I want a young twenty something year old to thrive but I also thought it is insane to have so much. Scrutiny on who someone is at that age and expect them to kind of fulfill some weird fantasy that the public at home. How's my we let these girls like grow up and do what they WanNa do and you know and and and frankly like just explore a couple of other things there are. Aesthetic is all very different. Like I think that you can tell that like you know Amanda was trying to do some like edgier projects. I don't know that that panned out for her or not. But I also think that when you've been famous for as long as those girls have been famous backlash always. Yes so young the backlash. He's always waiting for them to do anything with their like film choices or who they are or whatever it's true to the point where they're over exposed you know and I think that if you look at the kind of films that zendejas doing which bigger blockbuster kind of things In some way like her career like she's just made like better. We are chess moves. Yeah you know. And it's because she's had different opportunities from all of the And so you know I. I don't think that the comparison is fair except that they're all young and also it's nerve-racking But the last thing I'm going to say about this. Is that if you have never read the twitter thread that this woman Hania Angus did about. When she was alive tweeting hands touch. I cannot recommend it more like highly. I'm pretty sure if you go like wear hands touch like life tweet. You will see them. Is it as big as people say it is? It is right. It's a trainwreck. Oh Yeah I mean I. I love the live tweeting so much. I watched the movie and I how yeah like. Every moment of the movie it was. It's truly like must watch TV. Don't give Itunes your three ninety nine but if you can find it for free somewhere like please. It's also just like there's always a trap with up and coming starlets where it's like. Somebody gets put on a list of like up and coming up and coming this and then like people are looking for them. There will always like what happened to them when they had literally. One big breakout role. Everybody wrote about them as up and coming and then maybe you didn't see them again because you weren't watching the stuff that they were doing or they were doing something ended up being different than the quote Unquote Trajectory. That like the tabloids gave them or said that they would get like. I'm just it's this happens every time. We're like on a list of ten up and coming actors and actresses like you're GONNA get two or three that you ever hear from again maybe right. It's like look at those like young Hollywood colors hair from the last twenty years. Who were who. I think the other thing I think about is you know when I was twenty. Twenty one twenty two three three my mind about who? I was changed like every other day. Like every other hours the expectation that you know your choices that you're gonNA see on stable trajectory upward until the end of your life is sort of like it's really unfair thing to put not that. I'm saying that's what the caller was doing just thinking about sort of how we view these really young celebrities. I know all of this Jacob Tremblay eraser like all I'm saying speaking of like nondescript like white boys I'm looking at where hands touch and I didn't realize that the coast are the white Nazi in Wareham such is the guy who was in nineteen seventeen George mackey. The Star No. It's not so you can't really say like it. So it's not like this movie. Was such that killed a career when literally the next year this guy went on to be what was for a time. The Best Picture Front winner. Front runner hat is slow. I do think that one one trend here that is that is true is that I think that. With the young male actors no one is ever asking them like any kind of like even tenuously intellectual yourselves right and then with younger actresses being some sort of activist or having an activist cover is definitely a way to distinguish yourself and I find that especially with like young actresses of color. It's a thing that they got asked about over and over and over again so like George. Mckay's career is not going to be derailed because literally everyone is like who and he never says anything he just goes on from having rural today. Looks like everyone the wave? Yeah yeah the wave at like an Emberg like goes on to be someone. Who's part of the conversation is that she gets asked about police brutality she gets asked about. You know like she gets asked questions about Queer staff and about the you know like whatever and so there is more scrutiny on the actresses and there is more room for error for them and also people just like you know people think that it's charming when young people have opinions but the truth of it is that we actually don't give a shit up and so they put them in this like Kinda box where they have to have opinions about things they have to. They have to stand for something and then the minute that people are like. Oh you're twenty four. That's not really cute anymore. we don't care or they say something that nobody cares about. We just like cast them. Aside in. No one is asking Timothy. Shallow may about police brutality. So you'll never know what the deal that man has done. You know. He's like doing woody Allen Movies and come out of it like pretty unscathed and it's because of this double standard isn't the flip side of that then that you get punished if you're a man who speaks out I'm just thinking about who dat fave Nico Tortorella Amish think. I don't think that he's been punished. First of all I also think that the issue with Nico towards the guy for how to gory. He's not getting punished. Either he we. We lovingly mock him but he traffic's off that stuff he still quite get. He gets quite a lot of attention for weeding book. You know he loves to read books. I Know Lindsay. But you know the thing I went on Matt Maguire's and seagrams recently and I'm to my. I'm of two minds about it like I think. On one hand there is a really like men who get famous for talking about issues mostly affect women is something that is you know. My eyebrows always raised them out. But I also think like. I really want to question my own impulse about that because I like part of the battle of any kind of activism. You have to have all sorts of people buy into it uniting donating and so. It's a net positive that someone like a map. Magori is talking about body positivity in his talking about feminism. Or whatever in general. I'm like that's a win. Then there's also like Hollywood cynicism of it all where you're just like. Are you talking about stuff because you mean or you talking about it because it's a way for you to take up more space to get more attention and I do not know what is a map? Macquarie's heart so I will not speak to it but I do think that men are not incentivize general to take an active as mantle. And I think that that is. It's a thing that makes them pretty like bulletproof when it comes to like dragging NPR and all of that stuff because they're just like not telling you what they think. And at the same time I do think that there is a really strong impulse to raise your eyebrow the minute that they do it if it's about something that you traditionally like don't think affects them and. I don't think that it's fair. I don't think that it's fair to talk about the issues that might Magori cares about issues that are only issues that affect women unit. It's like it's so hetero normative and dumb and stupid and so I just think that he like he's an interesting example but at the same time like I like. I read these media interviews all the time and men just do not get us at the same rate right questions about activism as women no and also. I think a lot of times. It's both though like it's a little bit of both because if you're famous you do crave that attention. Naturally or a lot of famous people are are very much like drawn to the spotlight and want that attention and I think I think it can be a mix of both is what I'm saying so it's like I when I look at Magor. I'm a little bit like I know. This is great but like how much are you enjoying this? And that's where the cynicism like clicks in for me personally and that's why it's a little bit. I think I think you're right. Because then they're actors like Brad Pitt. Who are people who do a fair bit of like quiet kind of activism? Just like do it. Just doesn't he's not like trying to score like PR points off of it or you know whatever he's like produced so many iconic block movies and no one is really like. Oh my God like Brad Pitt. Made like all of this black cinema possible. Because he's not really looking. That's not the validation that he's looking for it so I do agree with you about the cynicism but I think that you know if you're a critical thinker you should probably also I always questioned my own. Cynicism I'm like is coming from a place of just like not liking this person because they don't really respect celebrity or is it because it's actually true and I think that the the truth of it is. The answer is somewhere in the middle. I mean who weekly where you can tell. We don't respect celebrity. I'm just joking. Why because it's but you're right. It has to be in the middle because even if you if you are smart enough to have the impulse to want to discuss your activism. You're smart enough to know how it will be perceived and that it will be perceived was cynicism so like like the type of person who's going to do that understands the results of that thing and understand that one of those results is that it might be good for their career. You know like it once once you like the Jimmy. Yeah meal at all. Yeah I mean the Jimmy. Love at all. It's funny because I'm just thinking about. She went on some rant recently and she said something about how you how you get forced into being over exposed and I think you could make the argument that she is constantly waving her arms round for attention but at the same time. There is a point to be made there. I mean is it but you think that's true though like I was watching talented Mister Ripley and the other day and Kate Blanchett came on the screen and I was like Oh my God cable. Iconic ACTRESS thought like whose body of work I love. I don't know anything about that woman. I don't know where she comes from. I don't know like what city she's living in. I don't know who she's married to whatever and hardly a different path to fame you know and so I think that it is. She's also older. I think it's hard to compare anybody over like thirty five to people like it's just it's such different ballgame. Now I mean it's a different ball game but I also think that it just it depends what they're trying to do. I also like I'm GonNa say a shady thing where I think about part of all of his backlash also is about a lot of these. People are not smart enough to talk about the things they want to talk about. And so that's the other thing. That riles a lot of people up. You know I think that if you just had celebs we're like Oh yeah. I WanNa talk about abortion or I want to talk about healthcare or whatever and they could hold a conversation that was nuance or you know. Just like sounded like they weren't complete idiots. I find I feel that people would be more forgiving towards them. And so it's just hard in this moment because what they're in the business of is warning attention and we're all like the world is falling apart so. I really don't have time for an idiot. Who wants attention right now and Sarah tenuous need to take a risk when you step up to talk about stuff like that and you are not as confident in what you can say and how to say it and I and so. Why even take the risk? That's the tough part and also one of the things that makes it especially rootless as as the celebrity but also as the just the consumer of celebrity. It's like it's it doesn't matter to you like if you decide that like oh you don't like Amandla anymore or you don't like Matt Magori anymore. It's fine because there's five more people behind them that you can stand instead so like like to you. It's it's easy to just write someone off in two seconds. We'll do we do we move onto. D- do we move onto Sean. You said you haven't spent a Lotta time on instagram. Do you WanNa talk about the the verses battles. I mean I'm happy. I'm happy to hear about it. I I am so fully. I haven't that on instagram. You more than a year really. It's my way of keeping myself from me. Overexposed shoddy is truly the best celebrity of our time. Like she knows exactly when you really really. So I. I've seen some of these. Like quarantine lives in quarantine whatever's but I have not mostly seldom versus winter. Like I didn't really see it on instagram. I thought on twitter. I which I thought was pretty cool because so versus you know like it's yeah. It's like happens on instagram but people can't really interact on instagram. And so they've been. I think the first one that I watched was Lil Jon versus t pain. I think that was the first one and I just kind of happened onto it and it was really. It was like early days of quarantine and it was truly a ton of fun like it was just like like little. John is stuck at home. Pain stuck at home they are. They are going through the same ship and then within five seconds Swiss beats realized that he had a winner on his hands so the thing became a little more branded brand and and people started talking about them. And they were. They were really. You know the whole thing off The one verse says that had everyone running to twitter because just like on the instagram platform. You can't really have. Conversations with people was baby-faced versus Teddy Riley Twitter Food Sylvia or right and also Teddy Riley essentially took it so seriously that he like he fucked up because he tried to have a real productive which as we all know. Instagram does not allow for real production. So all that happened. Was that the that the match descended into chaos because there were so many tech issues and so the audience and baby face were all left being like. What is this man? Yeah and it was like it was truly it was truly insane and I think we'll go down for me as one of my favorite moments on the internet because everybody was watching the exact same thing the rain which is so rare just keeping the instagram stuff going. Is there like. Have you seen any specific black? Who's that have been doing a little too much? Instagram live or doing it. Well like what has been your take on black. Who's on Scam Live not counting this? Instagram likes clues are going through the same thing that the white whose are doing where they're all scrambling for relevance you're just like if you had nothing to give really but like it's like the scam is exposed and like my my favorite person on live or like on instagram. Just been like Angeles Simmons because she is a spiraling out of control and you know like or like famous shoe designer Angeles. You know who is in Bikini like telling people to be body positive as your or your muscles. Listen I love I love runs and I will now talk about things that Yo Gotti has a huge crush on her and keeps trying to his shot publicly and like every time he's on his shows. He's like Angela like Angela and she like will not. Yeah it's so I mean it's so nuts I am fully like I'm still on instagram but anytime I see alive I just have to like I. I just can't be a part of the lives. That people are people are saying that they're really enjoying are the MEG. The stallion lives which I believe it because she is just genuinely like a delightful person to follow so but I just you know I just think that with when the world is falling apart impulse not to be like how are people that are richer than me and people who contribute less than me living and so I am. It's very hard for me to to just like to even make fun of these people because all I am is like furious furious. What are perceived speaking of lives? I have this on because I didn't know that this happened. But like Tiffany. Haddish was like maybe with like went on a date on bumble with or digital date with common. There's like a whole thing with them and then she was live ing. Who is common nod dating? What's Communist every black woman? In Hollywood tiffany was like live ing with with Gabrielle Union and then revealed. That common was there which made me. Mad. Because it's like I get that. That's like an narrowly funny and good reveal but also like. Why is he in your house? Like this is not social distancing like get him out of your house. You're you're showing your shock. Haddish's not social distancing curbs. Look like just like this reveal is like not a satisfying revealing this time. Like that is not what you're supposed to be doing well. Okay here's the real tiffany haddish. T- that actually I want to discuss. That has nothing to do with her. Social distancing but like is kind of a minor scandal on African twitter and. I don't know that other people are talking about it. We're tiffany haddish. You now as you know has become famous in the last couple of years and is really like reaping the benefits of all of that. She is also like connecting with her like Eritrean roots and in doing that. The girls trip actor has become like bff with the dictator of Eritrea and so they have been using her basically do propaganda and she's just like fallen for the whole thing like I think and so she like went to air trae. I was like posting all these photos that are like. Oh people say Africa's poor look nice it is and meanwhile this managers killing thousands of people. She like Like a video chat like facebook live or something with like a small young activists are fucked it up and then like somebody wrote a really good medium post. They think about what that experiences like like she just wasn't engaging with any of the human rights questions that were even though she was like putting herself out there to answer the question. She wasn't actually answering. The questions. Right is that she wanted to talk about how wonderful trae was without engaging with like the pros. It's really I feel like they're so many of these stories like Miki Manashe taking money from like an Angolan dictator or like. There's always Jaylo took money from another dictator and all these celebs. They get so rich off of it. Which is one problem for me. But the other thing is how easy. It is for these governments to just do propaganda using like dumb celebrity instagram accounts. And everyone speaking of this is like Casey must graves partnering with WWF Rha My former colleagues buzz. He knew that a huge investigation about how WBZ funds militias end up killing people in and around the parks that they maintain so NC. Your it's all fun and games until you're like. Oh yeah you're literally in bed with evil people but I think I mean it to go back to that to the stuff about. Eritrea is that like I think they must know or people. Like maybe tiffany. Haddish doesn't really understand the broader implications. But maybe people around her do and I think they must do the map calculation there had Brits like. I don't think that people are going to or fans or just people in general are going to look into this sort of stuff like I think. They know they're going to get away with it because this is sort of complicated like geopolitical stuff like that. Maybe they know that the barrier the entry is like slightly slightly slightly too high that no one is really going to care earlier. Replies are GonNa be like yes queen and then like every like twenty user pilot will be like a little fucked up and everything celebrities. Do like that kind of so. It's hard to know when the thing is the thing you shouldn't deal with because literally everything you do. You get ten comments like yes queen and then you suck for whatever reason you know no matter what do right and it's just like I don't know it's like the air traffic it obviously. I'm super like attuned to because it's like an African thing but it is truly. It's wild to me thought this is actually very harmful like it's not a thing that's funny. It's actually very very very harmful understand how you're being used. You know like that is. That's like there was one thing when you're doing. Pr FOR OTHER WAY. And then you. Also gaslight you gaslight people by pretending that it's not a thing like if you read the exchange that Tiffany Haddish was having with all these like these airtran American kids who were trying to educate her. She was very much like again. I was like this is the problem of trying to have a nuance conversation with someone who might not have all of the tools to do that as you know like. Air Trans Nice and maybe if I go there you know like it'll shine a light on it and there's also just that Hubris of just thinking that the attention that comes with celebrity is something that is always good as like no all you've done is like Rehab a really evil man no thing right but yeah that's true and then there's something kind of sad 'cause 'cause she clearly wants to engage with like her culture her history and whatever and then it's a mess and that's probably disappointing and also when yes and then she has to do extra work and she thought she was signing up to go hang out and what a great opportunity in. It's like not quite so it's always complicated. It's complicated I know but like it's complicated but like this is actually a really good transition to something else. I've been like reading about and this like so did he. Now things like did he has been very good quarantine content. I have to say so. There's disagreement in this chat about that. I like like. But here's the thing that I was gonna say that's about it on one hand. You're like did he like please. Don't talk you and your children should dance forever. Because I appreciate the dancing the minute. He like shares his actual thoughts. You want to scream and this is the problem with people who just got all this attention. They think that what they say matters and so did he has been going on about speaking about politics. He knows what he's saying and he's like urging all black people to withhold their vote essentially and the like. I'm less worried about the implications for the election. Because I like. I'm like if if diddy is like your barometer for where you're getting your political news. We have way more problems than duty himself. But they're like just really illustrates celeb- thing that drives me nuts. Where they really? It's like just because a lot of people pay attention to you like doesn't mean that you know what the fuck you're talking about right. Well that's yes. That's the endless debate about being famous yet. Totally but didn't did alike invent voting. A voter die remember. Remember remember voter die and then nobody on the voter dia campaign was registered to vote and it was like did IPE Perez and then like I forget who did a cursory like search for all of them and none of them had registered. So no thank you but Jamie Fox is like mad at diddy and so he like did a whole instagram post about it and I was like wow Jamie Foxx coming in hot. He was just like stop it with this. Bullshit Johnny. Is there anything that you WANNA talk about? That's not how much you love. Westworld any other topics that we haven't had. Here's the thing I didn't want you to talk to us. Worlds I WANNA HEAR. I literally Glenn literally after about it. Because I won't be violent. Here's the thing as you know. I was a huge booster westworld season. Three as you guys were screaming about how bad it was. I was like no. It's actually good. And then I was like two episodes by and then I just caught up. And it's horrendous Steve. Thank God fighting it for so long. I was like the first six I was like. This is great and then and then. We're in denial are. I was even all in on the movie seem episode drug drug. The party I was like this is great. Brilliant say tional I love it and then and then I just watched the episode as it. I just watched the episode where where delores Slash Charlotte alike gets blown up. Sorry Spoiler Avenue. I was like this is terrible being of Tessa Thompson who? I don't even know how to answer that question on top of that. She like I mean from her very first scene she was acting like she's in everything and she's marvel too so marvel and marvel makes you a huge so she's good in. Marvel. She's good. You know what the first the first two things I ever thought. Tessa Thompson in one was Veronica Mars. And she was bad in that and everybody hated her. But in retrospect she was fine and then to was she played chief. Webber's niece on an episode of which is literally how Shawny if sh- if you're on Grey's than Shawnee remembers you you're literally I know every guest of Grey's so she played two Webber's niece who had ovarian cancer and then they recast her. I think when she died like was a totally different actress. Why did they recast her? If she died when she just two seasons apart appearance who were the other black. Who's in Westworld? So there's Tandy Newton and I would still say she's a who yes she's the best part of Westworld but she's a who absolutely. That's so crazy to me because ten days jen like in my life since like one of her for Florida every which way he shawny Hoodoo. I always confuse with Tandy Newton. You know this because one time we were watching a movie I was like. Oh that's handy in and it was like another black actress that is a foreigner and you were really mad at me remember. I am mad. Confuse anybody with any. She's married to one of my personal faves. All Parker all parker the writer director of the best exotic myrtle and the best exotic miracle. They'll do and MAMA MIA to here. We go again. It's it's funny. I just googled. Actresses look like Tandy Newton and the number one actors. People confusing for is fucking. Zoe Saldana. Who I yeah. That's exactly who it is. She was a holy show. He's not he's in the Dubai spawned with Gwyneth. Paltrow Kate Hudson it all comes back to the true is in the Dubai Spahn. She's in the Dubai spawned Sir. It's it has its own. It's like its own movie and it's a Dubai spawn starring. Kate Hudson Credible Zoe. So Not Tandy Newton I want to go back to US world other black because I thought that one thing that that was what struck me about. Westworld is also like it's secretly had a majority black cast without sort of. I think that was another thing I loved about it but I Miss James Marsden. I'M NOT GONNA lie Jiffy. He might be back he might be a robot but now show just either even though you have like all these sounds at people not to make this about westworld but it's like the show just has a way of like like sucking all of the good favors you like the the the good feelings you have about actors or performers just right out of it because like Jeffrey Wright is not great at it tested this these guys. I'm screaming I just Google westworld black actors because as you know I'm never going to watch the show. Okay Jeffrey. Wright Fair Test Thomson Fair. Lean Away Michael Kid Kid. Cutty just there in the new season at my boyfriend. The football player Marshawn Lynch. What is happening in the new season would say is like? I think worship Lynch's portrayal. I think no good terrible terrible terrible hair cutting is great not acting and cutting MacAulay was good. You guys here's my kid cutty story. A million sundance is a million Sundance's ago. I like actually been dying to share. The story is he like I was at a party that he was on. This was so many years ago. Like in the hipster runoff era like or shortly thereafter. And so there's like seventeen black people on this mountain so obviously you see them in your leg. Dots could cutting who that is. But I I really wanted to introduce myself but mostly I was dying at how he was going to introduce himself. I was like what is he gonNA say like? I'm like I'm cutty or whatever and I guess get a movie at Sundance and I didn't know and and he stuck his hand out and he was like hi. I'm Scott and I screamed because I had never met another black. It was ask. That's Gutty gluttony. Everything he's one of those people that's good at everything he does don't you don't you remember the iconic. Hbo TV show. He was on how to get in America. You don't Verita who's really talented. God you know how to make it in America remember the drink roster Mazda and also he was out there like spelling hoodies drink. How good how to make it in. America is truly one of my favourite TV shows. And I'm still so mad. The big cancel that it was. Hbo Let's HBO. Let's westworld spend a billion dollars each episode and had made it. America could only get eight episodes or something i WanNa do is when I knew. Hbo Wasn't serious about their block. Viewership I was like this is crazy. We love this show. Please bring the show von Orgy. Speaking of Westworld blocker. Hbo We Yvonne. Orgy is also on Westworld. She's on your play. Call last. Call Lindsey Bobby. This is for who dat. Well I mean you too but I would love to have until you've on orgy. That's why didn't she hop? I'm watching the crisis. Insecure have my thoughts on the show. But that's not for this call. I don't just wondering. Why did Yvonne Orgy not become you know what I mean like? I should really good on the show but like I would be. I think she's doing one movie. I don't understand it do if you have thought please do share. But I'm going to say to her the same thing that I tell the fans of everyone who's like how come my favorite actor and pop and I'm like 'cause y'all fans did not do the work to make up. That's what was going on here. I love that. Yes blamed the caller. I'm just like whites. Although here's what I'll say it actually cheer. This reminds me of our earlier conversation. Because she had all these headlines about being a virgin until marriage remember and like and then. She broke up with her boyfriend. Ray like recent right but it just felt like that became the lead container around her the her story in a way that I just think. It's such a delicate. It's like I. It's such a delicate dance to to set up what your story is and women get pigeonholed really quickly. If they say something. That sounds even remotely interesting thing that she's might be suffering from. Is that like she sort of the straight man of the group like Natasha Rothwell. Who is also sort of playing against type because her whole thing is like. I'm boring as hell like. I am not like Kelly at all. And then you have. Ray who's a character and then it's like vons role is to be the army and she's she's Nice. She's doing the least showy performance even though she has gray everyone on this show is good. But it's like I think she's suffering from the fact that like she's the least of a character of anyone on the show so it's like she's the least fun to watch even though she's great so it's like I don't know it's like it's easy to it makes sense that. She's not the breakout because she's not doing the breakout character. Also think it just depends right like I like the way that I know who Yvonne. Orgy is is that she is Her like had this other. Sitcom that was about her like Nigerian American family. I run first Gen so I think that she also strikes me as someone who wants to really be in control of the things that she makes which is not everyone in Hollywood and so I I imagine that that's harder to do. I think that for as much as we're like. Woo Diversity or whatever it's still pretty It's it's not like super easy for someone who has a very Nigerian name is like a darker skin black actress to just like pop. Like I think that that's something that's worth mentioning and think about like what roles would even be available to somebody who looks like Yvonne Orgy at her age. It's why Tessa Thompson plays all the black women unit. It's like just like any like any time. I see a movie script. It's always like she's always in the running for for being on it and that's not a knock on Tessa Thompson. Thompsons a great actor. It's truly about like what is the imagination of people who make television and movies. And so I just. I think that it would be I like. I can understand why it would be hard for von Orgy to have the kind of career that she wants to have but at the same time. I'm like it. It's hard to have this conversation like not knowing like issue turning down stuff. Is she being offered stuff is? Is that show? Bob Loves Albert. Shola Sean how did that Azer? That's you know like that's the bullshit that like is available to like dark skin. African actresses like. You're kidding me on her instagram. Because I was just like I pulled it up and I didn't know that she she taped an HBO Comedy Special. Like is that out yet. Did I miss it like fueling? Everyone on insecure has comedy like. How's the Comedy Castle? That like that other really bad actress on it has one that was awful. And then What's her name a man one other friend? Yes the really annoying. Yeah the skin. See A friend. Yes I mean. She's been around for ever. She used to do better tackling headship. She's yeah she's she's now a talking head on the real. Maybe you're one of those shows but yeah I don't know I I find always this question of like why aren't certain like wire certain actors like not doing more stuff as a like. That's a hard question and tell it's like you don't like I don't know what the ultimate plan is right that they want to do. You don't know what they're getting offered or not getting offered. I also I also think that there are people who are perfectly happy having this one stable job that they have you know just are. Rip To that That one grey's anatomy actor. That was his only job forever. What's up Alex Karev? And now his name is Jason Timur the injustice. Yes some people like. I want this one job. I don't want more shit and so it's fine. Okay so her comedy special. Update is not out yet. It comes out this summer. Supposedly she taped it in February. So that if you're if you're wondering that's the deal but that's all right. I'M GONNA Watch. I'm excited me too. Me Too and also thrilling finish out. Hbo Forgive it for being like just giving everyone you know. It's great that it's on. Hbo same with insecure. Like keep it all together so people can find it people who wanNA watch it. Get Mine I hate to backtrack but this reminds me of this and I because I wanted to ask. Question is Ray and photographs reminded me of this. Didn't even see the photograph. The Valentine's Day drama stabilty now. Where did that movie go? That movie disappeared and I was certainly. It's certainly you can rent it now but you can't. All I've heard is that it was good so maybe I'll watch me to. You can't rent it yet. That's what I'm saying and I'm like it says that it's on Amazon prime. It says I checked on Friday because it says available on Amazon prime but it says nineteen ninety nine. And we're not paying that. Oh it's it's not available. Bobby Bobby didn't you just spend twenty dollars on the rhythm section so honestly to keep it? No but even an offense five bucks five. Wow also WANNA watch the photograph because Lil. Rally is in this and his like nobody like outside of Meg. The stallion has had a better come up than Lil. Rel how I love. We should end on that okay. Oh my God he's also he's also in that Britney runs a marathon movie that Amazon. I liked Pitch Amazon. You guys can I tell you what I watched the other day that I love. That has nothing to do with her. Weekly is the Australian man. extraction movie. The hemsworth rather is a good. Okay listen it. I'M GONNA sell you on it. Because it was such a low day of quarantine like it was truly like. I Like I looked at my zoloft and I was like this is not doing it. I was having such a day. I'd cried like twice that morning and I spiraling out of control and I didn't know what to do and I turned on Netflix. And I accidentally like like you know how the credits just aren't playing and you're like Oh this is annoying so I guess I committed to it and it was truly the adrenaline rush that I needed. Like if you want like Shitty action movie where you're like the say. It gave me the same. John Feelings that I have where I was like. Yes keep blowing things up keep killing people like it's just like that was the only thing we're getting. The hemsworth brother is great in the kid is obviously annoying ten points in the movie. I was like I don't care if you don't extract this kid to be honest because nicest thing anyone could ever say that that's the nicest review any could ever give up this movie is. I like on a really bad quarantine day. I think that like one should explore watching this movie because it just gives you the perfect dose of like like like oxytocin. It's like yes. This is what you need so just take it. I'll take that. That's a great review. Okay before we end this episode. Let's do this sooner than lake six. Thank you for being with us. This is amazing as always. Let's just do it again later? Whatever we'll just sit another doodle. Thank you for. 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Why Faster Internet Isn't Worth It

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Why Faster Internet Isn't Worth It

"This episode of the journal is brought to you by lincoln jobs linked in uses their knowledge of people's soft skills hard skills to match your job listing to the most relevant event qualified candidates to get fifty dollars off your first job post go to lincoln dot com slash the journal terms and conditions apply. There's a commercial shell running on t._v. Right now it's verizon fios internet if features two sisters who really loved to stream videos we streep so much judge a lot of times. Alissa is watching t._v. On her laptop using her phone also using her title task the point of the commercial aw if you and the people you live with have a lot of devices love going on the internet and stream a lot of videos you should be buying more internet speed feed and verizon is far from the only company using that message. Here's a commercial from xfinity. More devices more apps more streaming today. We need more speed than ever to stay connected so we're making the best in home wifi experience even better we're giving our customers faster speeds including them in our most popular three and a half years ago to reporters at the wall street journal set out to answer the questions. What are these commercials selling you and do you you really need it and in an investigation that is the first of its kind that involved researchers from princeton and the university of chicago and a panel panel of over fifty journalists around the country. We finally have the answer those internet packages that provider sella's faster make make basically no difference welcome to the journal our show about money business and power. I'm i'm kate limbaugh. It's wednesday august twenty. First speeds is how the whole businesses sold marketed to you. They sell packages based on. You're going to get up to one hundred megabits. Per second are three hundred five hundred gig of it and we're told that you need speed to do all the things you need to do on the internet. Shalini ramachandran was one of the reporters working on the project when you buy internet for your home or apartment usually you're offered a bunch of different options for speed those speeds are based on something called megabits per second and the idea is the more the better they're telling you that you need a lot of speed in order to be able to stream a lot of stuff we were looking got an advertisement from cox communications and they're saying with lower tiers probably surf the web doolittle email but in order to you know really stream a lot. You're gonna need a lot more than that and we see this kind of marketing from a lot of folks where the sort of lower tiers like yeah. You might be able to send a note to your mom but if you really want to stream a bunch of stuff if you have a household with multiple kids. You're going to need our big packages. Whoever's selling you this. They're well aware of what pursuing you but you don't know what you're consuming. That's tom grader who collaborated with shalini for this story in april of two thousand sixteen xolani and tom. I started investigating whether it's true that the bigger the number on your internet package the better your experience using the internet shawnee and tom particularly hickory wanted to figure this out because they saw another trend happening in the u._s. More and more people are paying a lot for internet. We were coming across people who have massive missive internet bills and it's like why would your internet bills be so big and few people understand what they're getting when they pay that bill we have some numbers from this industry tracker called the lightman research group and they said that average monthly spending on internet bills in the u._s. was sixty six dollars and twenty five cents last year which was up sixty four percent from twenty tab so over the past decade. You're bill's gone up sixty four percent and the question was what speed you actually need and what do faster <unk> speed do for you when they first asked this question. It seemed like something they should be able to figure out so they got cracking and quickly discovered. If you want onto measure your internet speed. There's an app for that. We found some app that would measure your data and we thought this was going to be great. It was not perfect it measured the device and so it was like measuring your electrical usage the lamp or the water usage the faucet like we needed to get to the source wear. We're your meter actually is basically the happened didn't do what they wanted. It only measured one device at a time but tom shawnee wanted to measure. All of the internet being used in a household speed. Testing software is just such a debate area. There's armies of nerds hotel you. I bet what you did is wrong. If you do it one way or the other way so like once we kind of dug into the space where like if we just measured off your phone or something that people say well. What about your computer. What about this what about what about your other device. It didn't take long for us to realize that we probably needed an academic or someone who ed 'expertise n._s. Okay we need to a networking researcher who's like looking at this and can create proprietary software for us <music> bringing academics into reporting at the wall street journal. It doesn't happen often but this internet speed question which started out as simple as what am i paying for. It got a lot more complicated so shallow knee and tom needed to call in the big guns nick teamster. Who's a very well known researcher in this field. He was at princeton recently and then went to chicago. We found him because he's basically an expert who some into hearings at the federal trade commission at the federal communications commission at all of these places where leaders thinking about internet performance can mean so. We reached out to him to ask him well. Can we measure this as possible. And how long do you think it'll take now. Of course we initially thought it was gonna be like three months but what ended up happening was is that technical problems like this are really hard to solve like so hard to solve that theme stir and his team of researchers had to build custom software and hardware hardware to put into people's homes and connect to their routers to track their internet usage and figure out how that related to the speeds they were paying for goal was to get as comprehensive view as possible. We were looking for a variety of locations whether it states regions but also differences in the people who are using the service we wanted single people married people families with kids people with roommates. We wanted to make sure we captured all of that. So tom and shalini set out to recruit people who would let them measure their internet usage the guinea pigs for this experiment. It was a big group of wall street journal employees. How many people were part of this project about fifty. Six people were part of the project at different points in time. How did you recruit them. Lots of cold emails phone calls to reporters and colleagues that we don't know our editor sent out notes to bureau chiefs around the country and and said hey could you guys ask your reporters to fill in their speeds and providers and allowed reporters were like what why are they asking for this the seems personal and <hes> and some some great colleagues or happy to help out once shawnee and tom had their research subjects. It was time for the participants pence to install the home brewed setup. Did it feel somehow weirdly personal to be like installing devices in your colleagues homes absolutely it was i mean we had had we talked with so many significant others boyfriends had a lot of conversations people's wives and husbands who like we thought we'd be interfacing with the reporter but they're saying well i my wife handles all the cable stuff so i'm going to kick it to hurt installed this whole thing so we pretty quickly figured out that the best way to install all this was video chat and so it was became like facetime and skyping and so can't do that in the middle of the day because the people aren't home so you're doing it like at night landscaping with your colleagues spouses yeah it. It got quite personal times. We lost the people. There were people who <music> this project was a pain in the butt hard configure out how to do it so i had to call tom tom and turn him into comcast tech support. There was a couple devices that to be head to connect for this experiment. They were kind of weird. Looking within ten is and everything in these blinking lights. My husband was not very keen about the whole thing having a device house that will monitor everything we do. They had to do this experiment where we tried to max out the capacity. You had to change all the shows at various points in time so it wasn't like you could just kick back. I can watch raiders of the lost ark from beginning to end. This wasn't really a couch potato activity. It was a living room science project at one point. I was racing from our basement meant to our bedroom with screaming child trying to stop and start televisions and i have to say it was one of the least enjoyable experiences of my life <music> so let's get more into the details of how you did the testing there were two kinds of testing active and passive what was passive like the passive testing lasted about a little over three months and what it just meant is when you're streaming or watching t._v. Or whatever it's it's collecting your speed information from these set of applications that we had decided on netflix youtube amazon and a number of others others that proprietary software that the researchers had made was looking at speeds in in other sort of indicators of quality so when passive testing. We're just measuring these indicators for your house based on whatever you're just normally what was active testing. The active testing was like a stress test. We wanted to sort of max out the pipe of people's houses. We had people start a service and then start another service on another device in another but device at another device so you're laying on top stop and then we also have them just blast like every device they had stream everything at once for ten minutes. Tom and shawnee were also subjects of their own experiment. First of all had had to find seven devices which is not that easy. I had my wife cellphone. I had an old phone that had working on wi fi. I had two laptops. I had moved a desktop computer to our living room because i needed to stream over the tv. You get to this point where you feel like. You're in like a best buy shopping t._v.'s. You know what i mean. Because there's so many screens we want people to max out there and use every ban with heavy thing that they could think of and we we recently just wanted to fee. If you pushed your pipe to the greatest capacity you could possibly think of in your house using every single device opening up tabs on your laptop. Stop what happens. What happens to your internet when you stream t._v. Shows and movies from seven different devices all at once that comes after the break. This episode of the journal is brought. 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Internet speed experiment <music> certain people in shali and tom's experiment pushed their internet by streaming as much as they possibly could at one time and even even then most people streamed everything just fine and they used only about seven megabits per second of capacity on average just to put that in perspective the majority of american homes today pay for speeds of one hundred megabits per second or higher according to industry research firm kagan providers are pushing customers to upgrade even further to go up to two hundred five hundred even one thousand megabits per second and in tom challenge the stress test. No one not even the most aggressive users got past a medium speed of eighteen megabits per second the the overall median was just seven so let's pretend the internet is like water. It's brought to your house via physical pipe buying faster faster package basically means. You're buying a bigger pipe but what tom and shalini found is that it doesn't really matter how big that pipe is because you only ever need a trickle out of it people with speeds of over one hundred megabits per second use an average of less than six percent of the broadband pipe they pay for so one person with three hundred megabits per second streamed at a median of seven point two megabits per second during her seven stream test. That was the only using two percent of the capacity she pays for here. She is using seven devices like i can't imagine a scenario beyond the stress test in life in which you would use more yeah i mean the funny thing is most most networking experts say you know what uses your full speed capacity when you run a speed test and you try to test for how fast your speeders and that's when it pushes a bunch on just stuff into your pipe but otherwise it's actually kind of hard. I mean sometimes you might use to say. You're downloading a bunch of stuff at once. Maybe like fifteen video games or something. That's where you will probably see okay. There might be some benefit to me if i pay for gigabit downloading that that fifteen gigabyte file will be faster than if i pay for fifteen megabits per second but i guess you have to ask yourself you know. How often are you downloading big files where but we'll really make a difference and if you had to summarize the findings of your investigation what would it be in a sentence. If you're paying for a high speed internet service. You likely don't need better speed the amount of speed. You need to run a typical household and you know even if you want to. Six of your streaming at once is much lower than what you thought. It's the hundreds of megabits per second. It's not in gigabit. It's actually quite low. These results show something really different than what providers are telling us. The providers say if you want to stream lots of videos you need more speed. Tom and shani's experiment proved that simply not true but there are other ways to quantify v._r. Experience when we go online is not just about the sheer ability to stream seven videos at once. It's also about the quality of that experience like for example startup time meaning the time it takes a video to start from the moment. You clicked play so they tested for that to basically what we found. What is the difference in start times for netflix videos amazon youtube across all these speeds from slowest to fastest was barely visible so for example on net flicks. We found that the people who subscribe to the premium more expensive two hundred fifty megabits per second and above packages only experience of benefit of point six nine seconds faster load times than the people who are on the economy cheaper tiers of fifty five megabits per second and slower. This is about the time in this experiment where you might say hold up. I know you set up the proprietary software. I know you worked with ivy league researchers but when i wanna watch a movie on netflix or read an article on a news website it's slow and if it's not the internet speed what is is it well. There are a ton of things that can affect internet speed things like your device. Whether you're router is up to date how far away you are from your router and tom and say you need to remember what your internet provider is able to do for you. In the first place what a internet service provider sells you a hunter megastore second. What are they actually guaranteeing or or purporting to guarantee. They are saying that that line whether it's cable or fiber that line to your house your house from there it's usually connected to some sort of neighborhood known which is connected to other houses in your area. All of your house is this kind of hang off of one node and then their bunch of different knows all over the country that connect also two other central office's what your being guaranteed is only only your link from your house to that neighborhood note. The rest of the internet is sort of up for grabs. There's a good metaphor for explaining what your internet provider is. Actually giving giving you imagine driving to work. The first step is getting out of your driveway. The next step is getting to the highway which connects you to your office in this this metaphor. Your internet provider controls your driveway. You need that driveway to connect to the bigger roads but even if you have the fanciest driveway it's not gonna help you get to work any faster. It's just driveway. You are buying access to your service providers network. They do not have any control on what's going on in other parts of the internet. If there's a slow server in california your spectrum internet connection in york work no matter how fast it is isn't going to help the problem in california this wall street journal investigation is the first experiment to conclude with strong evidence that the speed packages sold internet companies are in almost all cases more internet speed than consumers could possibly ever use the reporters also note that paying for higher speeds doesn't actually make your internet faster because your internet provider only controls a critical but small part of your internet experience so what got in the industry to this point one explanation says americans are watching less cable t._v. and more netflix cord cutting is really affecting these cable and phone companies that provide providing both internet and t._v. People are starting to say. I don't want tv. I wanted a string of bunch of stuff and he was forcing the providers to figure out well. How do oh i make up for this decline in those cable t._v. Side and what's very different about the internet from cable t._v. Is that for cable t._v. You might call up the cable company and say i want h._b._o. Showtime i want another d._v._r. Or another outlet in my house there there are bells and whistles that you might pay for but with the internet those bells and whistles don't really really exist so companies are looking for ways to upgrade you and that comes in the form of selling you higher speeds so he reached out to the companies after we got the results and they didn't contradict our reporting but they said that the reason that they are giving faster speeds and continuing to market these fast speeds to consumers is that they see a future where homes will have lots and lots of connected devices using a lot of bandwidth and these hugely fast speeds could be useful at that time they talked about applications like online gaming ultra h._d. Streaming twenty four seven security cameras when tommy shali reached out for comment the company said consumers do need fast speeds to support all the devices in their homes that are connected to the internet and that if consumers don't have that many now they may in the future but the researchers from the wall street journal study say that having lots of devices and streaming content just doesn't have that big of an impact on bandwidth usage. I think the most important thing is that people just know what they're paying for for me. I have twenty five megabits per second and i ah to who call my service provider to request the speed. The people who i spoke to definitely thought i was crazy because few people call a slower slower speed but i've found that twenty five has been more than enough for for me and my wife and three kids and there's a decent amount of streaming and activity activity going on in our house hopefully just understand how internet speeds work a little a bit better and will understand when a service providers coming to them with an offer or they're signing up for service or they're changing their service. They'll understand what what they're paying for and whether they're actually going to get any real benefit from making changes the wall street journal are continuing to investigate internet pricing do cord cutters pay more for internet service. Do people in rural areas areas for a certain demographics pay more than others. Do some regions have more discounts. If you wanna participate send your bill and speed to check kamai bill at wsj.com. 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Australian Survivor All Stars | Week 3 Exit Interviews

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Australian Survivor All Stars | Week 3 Exit Interviews

"Took me one million pounds. Chicago cyber however Shannon Gauthier. Getting you ready for a week. Three exit interviews as a complete spoilers zones. If you haven't seen all the way three definitely check out now but we do have interviews I with Abby and then about sixty minutes you can skip through if you want to Lydia so those are the two interviews. We have this week. I do an interview with John Scheduled for the weekend. He couldn't do any from a from a work perspective. I'm just probably going to put that one into the week. Four exit for any of those and have them all together. But I really really loved my chat with both Abby with Lydia so I hope that you guys enjoy and we have a lot of other stuff coming up a recap of Bayden is coming up as well so for weeks three so a lot of content. Who you guys check it out and I will see you on the side Miami so nice to charity you going. Good good thank you. I'm sorry to see you go. I think he played a great game. Actually gave my awards for best player of the week last week. So they're thank here. Yes it's A little bit crazy. It was financing pool. Like yeah blindside. So I had absolutely no idea it was coming from the conversations that I've had so yeah it's pretty crazy. Yeah I mean so much discuss you had so much Pailin Makuta so I WANNA ask. You seem to adapt to gameplay quite significantly from your first season. Can you tell us about that shift especially going back to play again so quickly? Yeah I don't necessarily feel that I played too much of a different guy. I just feel like they were more kind of overarching moments in those does that you know. I really made me look like a bit of a dictator and stuff like that You know I guess my game plan. The first time was to really be an asset to the tribe early In terms of physical strength. Because that's when you know winning. Those challenges really is people. Do buy into the game changes. So I'm watching it going ffices early days. It's a little bit. Yes winning the challenges and avoiding job account so but then when you try swapping and mood happing happens. It's a real different shifts From the game through to the individual Sorry going back to having played. Does this time and really just trying to be an asset It was more about me surrounding myself with the biggest physical and strategic threats in the game and trying to eliminate all of the social threats. Because he's street tells us in. You know it's that it is generally the threat sitting there at the end you know. They're the ones that really try. Eliminate all of the physical and the stage pie before they get too deep in the game. so yeah it was my strategy just to try and have as many shoot around. May in terms of your strategy and cool you know fly is That was the way that I wanted to go about it. And it wasn't necessarily The white I made it out. We may get schone because I hate you would. But they use the Oregon The wake may just because I could recognize that she's one of the best. Social Game Pie is that we've saying sorry. That's my reason behind that. Yeah that's pretty clear to me. Abbie people women seeing that you actually complimenting Shawny by talking to her I think they probably weren't looking hot enough but it was pretty clear exactly right and I've just been on everything about you know just saying it's not about physical strength. It's not about physical strength and I'm like I know I'm actually going off. Because of his social drink so yeah it was It is very frustrating. When you can't give you know these startling public in the audience the full picture of what you were trying to do but That's why I've actually thoroughly enjoy it all of my limitation interviews because you can actually talk through things that are happening and why you were doing things in win Yelm. Sorry that you've had that reaction or no one deserves it but again like the shows making a narrative and kind of probably shoehorning People just take that and I think they run with it too ugly degrees which is terrible. Yeah no I definitely has been really tough like you know. I'm the biggest advocate for strong women. The you know and not just strong as in physical I'm Talkin boss. I'm talking everything woman out then just to be staying cold like a woman. Hyder and some of the comments that I've been getting. It's just really quite the fighting in that sense. I'm so sorry to hear that your Pie. One of the MOST ICONIC FEMALE ALLIANCES OF HISTORY. Anyway doesn't see it. I think they probably have an agenda that they're trying to push rather than seeing the reality of what's happening so you're going to work so you had a lot of control in your first tribe. Who Do you think would have gone home? Had you gone back to tribal council after the Exile Travel Council? I was sitting in a really good position. You MAKUTA You know I had an excellent alliance. We'd some fantastic people surrounding me and once again you didn't say too much of their alliance but the cool alliance from that group was leading a sham myself. John Lee and nick was actually with us so But obviously the way that they showing that you know with with Harry and schone And then Yeah Harry schone. We're working with us on the Atta And then obviously shawnee became a target for the rest of us kind of I don't on But Yeah I recommend if we were to come back off the accelerate the demand if if Sony. Oh if they both went to Exxon you've gone back to tribal council and not swapped. Who Do you think would have been voted out after that not swap. Let's remember he was the fine of you the athletes and then you think you still had nick and Harry and that was it. Oh it would have been Harry for sure okay. What was your relationship like with Harry? 'cause you just play with him come back around tribe within what was up. Yeah Yeah My relationship has is is great Bad Harry is a kind of that. He doesn't actually apply we. Did you into like hey? Doesn't coup shots. Hey White see you to approach him move and he'll decide if he wants to go with it or eight thousand. Sorry I hate whenever orchestrate a moved Saw Harry top of Playa that you really want to keep it arms length sorry intensive the group and the crew that I was working Makita Yeah it's shown that Kinda gone and and potentially one of them come back whatever it might have been the result Harry would additionally be on the chopping board and they would say that comes back from exile we have been before as Zach. Ovid's active been more on the US in Harry So basically with the Sean Evora. So we went to tribal council and I had Got Carrie and mix on board for the vote. Yes they didn't want it to Wanted to sign the game for the game. But 'cause we were working to get it was a case of even tightly. Dasa gave me me Michelle. I got I got them Henry. They gave me Shawny Harry I'M NOT SURE WHICH. Whi Nick voted on the split but how to Johnny that and I went to You know there's so much that happens. That isn't Charlene But Yeah I think that I would have loved for Zach to come back into the game. I really really thought that you know. I'm speaking my mind but I thought that that exile was pointless You know I really wanted to say Zach and showing battle it out to get a c one of them come back into the game and one of them base in our and I was really banking on the fact that hopefully Zach was gonna come back because I really enjoyed having him around once again. We've my game plan of keeping the strategy and the physical applies around he. He was the one that I wanted to Cape in terms of that particular art I gave me Shawnee so we had to give them Zach as well and that's when the two of them went to exile. Yeah you know going back to the Henry void. Ob was a five five split. And you've said that you knew as in Henry and you. You voted out Henry. If it's funny hadn't played the IDOL. And you had revolted at the Thai. Shawny would have gone home. Would you would. You have flipped and take allergy thing. Henry might have gone wrong. No yeah if it went to a Ravar Henry was always going to guard Yeah so I think we. We had definitely discussed that We're comfortable with the the split. The sleep vars having you know sitting on H. Playa But if it was come down you know we had divide again. It definitely would have been. Henry is to win and that was you know relationship with me in an Harry and whatnot. That was just a show of you know that we could work to get a As you said it's such a game of compromise and even Tyke. Sorry you know I was loving working with making particular sorry Yeah Yeah No. He's like right. I agree So you know getting to the swap you obviously get. Dashon is there and you feel quite confident in like the Lucky group working with you. Why are you so confident that they would go with you? They sold it. Sorry well to me and you know. Lucky I had filmed. It'd be you know the the entry stuff team and just not the way we're able to talk much or anything but just got a really good vibe off at somebody that I would love to have worked with So I yeah. When we landed on the Metro I knew straightaway that we wear a little bit of trouble. I was trying to hide it Because the lead here with breaking the law But Yeah I knew that when you look at the five of them so there was matt. I K- Lucky Brooke and Flake This is off switch was. Yeah Harry. John schone Lydia and myself who very fractured. We've obviously just wanted. Schone OFF TO EXCEL. So when you either way we'd never going to repair that relationship Yes I it was just really hard landing on that vodka knowing that you You had to you know really work hard to make something happen. I thought that the lucky guy for him personally. He would have had the same gang plan as me. And you know if I'm older the discussions we had it was very similar of it. He's a strategic threat. You know hey needs stories. You know Authority physical threat. I should've said he needs those other people as she would seem as well so. I thought that I had really felt that to human. And he made me believe that he was a hundred percent on board. Sorry on sorry funny watching lots not knowing the compensation that had and then seeing become the sanctions that went on behind you back. I mean you're pretty dumb by the swap and obviously the twist shawny coming back so. Ucd sweated you went wrong old. You feel like it's pretty much like a victim of circumstance. Yeah I feel once again. There's so much that goes into the game. It's evolved like Joan Grain boss Out of that baggage Jonathan's great like happy days. I would still be. You know a lot of my My alliance members and things probably would be Hunky Dory over at the gray machine buck audrey buff. I landed on that. H We'd Lucky and as policy and then you know having schone won't expecting to the game in much. I've I knew from that second that I was pretty much screwed so it certainly is just a you know. I guess the situation when the circumstances that kind of messed up my game. Yeah I mean you had a rare experience of going back to play again so soon so physically mentally. What was it like going back so soon to play again? It was without a doubt the hottest thing that I've ever done. I'm sorry you know you have that forty six die experiences. Yes you know on one. It was the greatest thing I've ever done But yeah having six weeks in between and then backing it up and going again mentally for me. It was too soon You know I actually had a conversation with my partner on the Sunday not which was Alafaya before entering the game on the Monday and you know I remember it so well because I was just crying and I just can't do these Like what am I doing. I don't want to be here You know and that's really hot as well because that was the loss kind of you know point of contact had been made before I went in the game and he just thought that I would land on the beach. I want to be fun. I needed to get there and then I would be sweet but I really wasn't like I just can't finding myself going because he pipe before I just kept going off. Gosh it's only ten it's living it's only twelve and I'm screaming stop crying. To be honest. You know I do Walstein. Piece of pointed to get voided at day. Sixteen like you know I personally. I really did expect to beat food but I also I look at it as a bit of a blessing in disguise just purely in the white feeling because it was too quick turnaround so me personally. Yeah I can imagine. Only a few plays in history of had that shorter turnaround off the plane. Especially as many as you did like that is some heavy stuff on the other side with any. Was anyone that you didn't get a chance to work with that. You were really looking forward to working with. Yes my boy dave. I was Dave with his ruth. And that's the thing like I actually. Kinda applies last night and what I leave with me which started out. Just as a bit of a sounding board But diving I like. We've got such a good relation and he's like one of my brothers. You know not that I have about that but you know he's like a brother to me and You know I really do. Think that if we got the opportunity to get to the Out Their anti again in that we would have created some. Yeah we would have done some damage. Which would have been fun but Yeah probably just yeah. Just dive in Yeah he's he's such a huge player and unloving his guy meal stuff. Yeah well you know it was a little bit more time now like if you had the opportunity to play again if I had the opportunity to play again I would do it in a heartbeat You know I look at two seasons in a year. Probably think that's a little bit too much. I must say I struggled but give me a year BRYK and obviously to go again that I am. I'm sacred holding out for Australia. You Miss America or something like that I would love love. Love love to play Yeah along those lines that would be sake. Yeah we'll have you honestly I really I respect you going out there again so quickly. I respect your game so much like if anyone doesn't see it even worse sending you hate or at attacking you in any way like honestly if the hate is like your game was great and just don't even listen to the noise. No thank you so much I appreciate it. Thanks so much fee Fi. Li- thank you so much for coming onto RAV. Has podcast massive massive night last night with the vote and fi making him so sorry to see you go out that way? Goodness I know Inter Indus Sunday a memorable. You know I'm just looking at your season. I feel like there was a lot of your past season as well so just kind of going back to the beginning. Can you talk to us a bit about your relationship with Shane? Coming in for the first. Vote Shane on. Yeah I haven't had much of a relationship with shame with very different people way on completely. Different wavelengths And it didn't really take much to get paid looking at her And things site Suggestions really of like Not so much aid or anything like that but just the fact that. Hey she doesn't like so tuna arise and She's constantly looking for those and you know she's just You know everyone had is on her. She's already wanted to gain She didn't need to win twice. Sorry I really didn't tight much You didn't even have to twist anyone's To get majority on already shine from. From the show's perspective. It was a lot of like revenge from your perspective. Was that really a pot of it? Oh was it more just like very easy. I it was very easy I start. It wasn't even so much. Revenge wanted to wet could tape that no one can work with. And she wasn't one of them say it was just Yeah pretty simple decision in the end. that also. I kind of felt good to be blonde son like that. Got Ya Ya look. You know talking about like to move to math and we saw kind of you guys didn't work together but you have worked with in the past pre blindside in the last season quite heavily. So what was that relationship like coming onto the swap? That was tough because I haven't really We kind of live in different states. We haven't really had the opportunity to just Kinda Hash it out as you know it was done afterwards and So I was worried about that. Actually because On paper would be playing that kind of rivalry between A- On the outside as well and I actually wasn't coming off to him I would love to have got him out at some point in the game but I realized those in a very precarious position after the swap and so I went to him and say look I could tell he will not having a great time here like he was miserable. He you know block on that volume of Bait and He didn't really like the alliance that he he was up against off. That was really obvious. And I said Look Way with together before I've gotten obey fund. You like I'm not coming off to you You know you've got. I mean if anyone it would be You know he he's obviously. I was always loyal to him. It was he was the one that broke the alliance so I kinda pleaded to him. That way saying maybe we should just stick together. A hit and part of some of these guys that you really like and And start working together. They weren't anticipated. We can play a risk But maybe that would be a better solution. And I was dead serious about that because I was struggling to kind of make headway into that Baca. Click Shawnee. We just started out. And you know Harry Flip Straightaway. Um with Shawny and was targeting me and and maybe I it was. It was a sticky situation and In the end Matt obviously just went with the numbers we going and then that just sit through. You know pretty much out of control not much. We could really do that. Yeah mostly previous Abbey bottle after it was the fall. Yeah 'cause I lucky lucky to me said math off you and and I knew what he was doing. I've been playing that kind of rick between us so I went to not straight away. I said look I'm not coming off the ongoing operational nature. Not only we just started out. I don't WanNa work with their anymore. Like I don't WanNa say it's She's the one that we won't at you know and She just walked back into the guy and she's such a huge social threat. I talked to her from the get go you know and I and I wanted to out of beginning. Because she's such a social threatened a huge threat to apply like me. Sorry That that was the tree and Any Honda just say at all. Yeah we'll Cobra Dog Lofton and you know I I think it he. He was just like sitting idle. He had security in that he was not going to play it on. May obviously and and try and Mike and move he just wanted to. I think everyone at that point wanted to survive until merge which was still away off. You know I really long way off. So yeah it was frustrating. It was like being in the school yard again and And Not really having anyone to play with and we had some confidence that you know pay. We're going to show me that. Not but her angelie had flipped it kind of going in with most social pliers like I K and and flick and And Rookie and my decision that were gonNA divide between May and abby and and it was supposed to be me on you it But in the end I kind of broke change advice. I wanted to kate main and that'd be went behind. What was the reasoning? Then for changing it. They wanted to work with me. I wanted to find a way that that could happen but at the same time they wanted to tell you the fine line invite with the same. Tape invitingly yeah. Abby came on the X. Yesterday in her final words said she was fully blindsided at that. I wear abby went harm. Did you have much faith that the lucky contingent was gonna come with you or did you? Did you feel like you would get kinda getting at that? Point at that point admiringly option. You know. I had to appeal to them. And the best ways to appeal to the unlock. I obviously appealed to as well. But he didn't have the numbers behind him so I said to him. Let's make a move. Let's try and get Harry and Shawnee onboard wherever we can get on board obviously johnny was with me and bright up look lucky and broke That would have been good because I feel very strong power couple by that stage and it was obvious that was one option. He didn't really WanNa make a movie said to me. You've got an idol. Then then I'll be willing to make a move but if you don't then I then I talk like a cable fair. You know probably would do I if I was in the same situation So this the next it was at least two then pressure lucky and Brooke and I in particular to flush out Matt so idle at least some splits invites onto him socially auto at with replayed it or not Odd stalemated the sacrificial lamb and At the same time that Flushing Arnold. I went really into that audit which offering on stand. I don't really understand why they would just split it on John and I and not try on flushing Ottawa. Though that just boys my mind especially set it up perfectly was running around. I was saying you know. May you know I. It was blatantly. Obvious running around looking for auto you know and it was perfectly set up For them to not at that point was your relationship maybe but fractured with them. Having voted against what you thought you were voting with them at the abbey void and they didn't vote with us over there but of disconnection. Now you feel like you could have worked together quite seamlessly moving forward. If they'd been up for it. Yeah totally like I think I could have It was you know and I think considering it I just don't know I didn't in the end Something that cost them but because it wasn't a risk to them if anything it just as Matt which is what I wanted anyway so i. I don't really know why they didn't go for that auction Which was just on me and and that we intimate John. Off On that just makes sense. Was there anyone from that group that you've got on with particularly well like having gone to the beach and we're really working with in particular we slow you. Kind of appealing to the AK of at all. Yeah I really got a long way. And he's definitely someone that I developed a really good relationship with me in the Khuda ends on new. That was my wife treat. I did I tell you wanna I got onto the beach. You know if you're a friend of Nick's then you're a friend of mine he really popping up and you know. I I kinda got along. Really really well. He was kind of a number cruncher. in the alliance And obviously he changed his fight on that first night and opted to go for abby rather than rather than the May and had discussion about that and and him kind of me off to the right and said that that's what I had done was targeting me But I I like the Abbey. Sorry he was someone that I I definitely could have worked with But I also night. He wanted to play with the loss of Harry. Which at that point in time you know that damage has been done. Harry was just really invested in Sunny And the other stories that before the swap Waited we add riding alliance and it kind of never got showing but Harry came to me with a proposal. Harian nick did and Shawny To join their lines and that was in Nick Him Harry Nick Sean Sean Myself. I thought I'd say some alliance with people kind of on the fringe of that and didn't really soupy. Like you know I. I thought about it and I'm like no way man. I'm sorry exposed leaving only on a physical kind of Playa They're all social strategic. I'd be the first one that they would draw under the bus if we got later in the game and I wanted a more balanced alliance. I didn't want to obviously Lonzo. Didn't want a strengths based lines or an athlete by Salon. Or anything stupid like that I wanted to. I wanted to wear at the table. I felt lost and so I often a compromise and the compromise was that they sacrifice Johnny and Oh sacrifice Abby and bringing Lee so they may lay Sean. Huachen definitely trust and then it would be Harry and nick as well nick off trust as well. Harry is never really sure about And so everyone agreed and they go to and she went to exile and then And then the next day it was it was what we got back then into Varma Giannis World Scene. Harry's flipped at that point And aligns with with whoever they could just not us which would have made more sense because we would have had met on aside if we just kept Mukunda and that and he would have gone for that but Yes I I killed it by just a bit. It was it was an awkward situation And you know I could have really worked with a lot Brooke but shoot controlled by lucky. Yeah it's really hard to work with people and you've got to vote them out and they come back in the game like that's you know that's an awkward thing so trust because it doesn't work and yeah and Yeah and she's young. She's she got rot in amazing. Social Pie you know. And we're all working. We're all trying to get into the majority and her and Harry manage to talk through that ethic making moment something we've never seen before. Obviously you know you get down which is enough in and of itself. She didn't have to go make fire. So like what's running through your head at that time. I'm actually pretty calm. I'm not opposed to making fire. I could have made by with full. I probably didn't practices hate to come coming into the US on did the previous season and it wasn't a problem and It was just a really strange thing. I set up everything I K- fout or obviously nervous as hell having to trod. They'll go looking at you and and I got a fit the fifth and Blah and just it just didn't take off a stuffed up. I don't know exactly what I did wrong now. Don't be what my tapei everything's fine. A should've not put the end inside imitation Some Haas on the outside of the taste off peak it up then and and blow it in nature and my flying so I was Kinda stuffed up And then just started panicking. Abc's getting close and then by that stage flint atop a finger ring dumping like a good night and then a Lotta people that voted for Fadi. Then we're trying to cover their off so I was throwing a lot of help to maybe and I was getting like nothing and and that also affected me too you know and I kind of just let them in and you know. We got lucky in the background. Saying she's losing it. She's leaving spiraled out of control Yeah and I've never felt so a gutted and under pressure and and and there's just a horrible situation today in obviously felt like overly say awhile on anyone's Day so it was. It was weird because it was something I wasn't too worried about and then it was my undoing. I got out and Far Out of couldn't slate I was just like five five five old on and just going through it. You know in my head didn't got Hyman Yeah just went upstairs. The couldn't slate and the middle of the night and it was. I got McLean Tally Graham. I had some cannot line so I just kind of unraveled. It still tweaks from outside. I mean we have to five places that I mean. We still have heating by. I'm I'm good with and The sleep is always looted different. So yeah got mostly intact and also blogger. I've gotTa do this otherwise I'm GonNa go crazy so that we nice sheet five minutes. The fire was it was just like it was just one of those. Things just didn't work on the night everything was just felt like I was. It was all against me and I guess you know going and lots at that point had seven strike lessons and in my fifth as in like I was going to grind alliance and we want everything and SOC that makes a difference too you'll need obviously You know I have certain continuous losses. You out lies on the pressure to play really hot. It's not off knit relationships or you know it's just all heavy games and so Yeah that that's probably won't be Dan as well. You know like just that constant Law Than just going to travel council brutal. Yes sure by the time you making Fi. You've Lost Abbey. You've been on the wrong side of a slop like that's a lot of. That's a mental load as well. So and heavy. Blackie was a really really good physician like a winning. Not wanting to be like an obvious can. Threats are really downplayed. The physical side of myself. I was helpful but not I didn't want to stand out audio. WanNa Heroes. You know I'd let me do that. 'cause she's GonNa what line fever she loves it you know and that was that was strategy like I did that on. Earth is just kind of sticking the middle and and I really up that social side of my game. You know I've really making You know I really sensible con of propositions and compromises and things like that that paperboard into and I did really tough. Don't blame the fire as much as a bad swap and stuff because that's just unfortunate and that's just the luck of survival and rock comes into it at some point. Yeah definitely you just lost question for you have to go. Would you play the game again? I Dunno I you know I last time ran I said yes straightaway because as much like unfinished business this time around. I'm like Oh man I I don't know I just want to have the experience again. I'd WANNA WANNA play the game but not not for the TV sort of things. Do you know what I'm saying? Like just doesn't experience like if someone who's running like hey once he is survivor to come and play on. Be there in a heartbeat. But it's not the thought of seeing so I just don't I don't Wanna be reality style loved the law. I just love the experience about a love. The gang for exactly what it is and that is everything. It's a social it's the strategy it's the physical man and he's sorry physical It it's full on and I really love it. Love the challenges buy. Yes for the experience. You know There's nothing nothing will literally do. These like San Made Saliva Melvin survivor. It's not on TV. Go for a weekend freak. Some fans out by being that compete in that kind of survivor fakes but it was amazing to it. They'd be thrilled to have you. I'm sure I want to be on a deserted island. This is like you know. It's probably not what you're saying. Yeah probably probably not non hardcore enough but thank you so much of the podcast and sorry that worked out that way. Well done for everything that you did on the season. Thank you thanks for having me. Thanks so much bye there. You have it everyone abby an Lydia as I said we booby getting John but I didn't want to delay the whole exit interview podcast of the week. So I'm just GonNa put that was week four and we will hear from John then so looking forward to that as well but I really enjoyed both of these tasks especially with Abby who. I think has really been much maligned on social media. Probably more than she then she needed to be so I really like getting her perspective and Lydia's as well but yeah all the contents coming out. Bayton on the Rehab this week that hopefully be up soon global this week not doing it for week two but should be back with a special week three which I guess I can announce it will be Mike from the latest season of Africa. I'm really really excited to chat about that with him. 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BSWA Chanting CD with text | Metta Sutta, Three Refuges & Five Precepts, and More

Buddhist Society of Western Australia

19:13 min | 5 months ago

BSWA Chanting CD with text | Metta Sutta, Three Refuges & Five Precepts, and More

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Facebook Moves To Prevent Antiquities Looting. Critics Say It's Not Enough

NPR's World Story of the Day

06:53 min | 6 months ago

Facebook Moves To Prevent Antiquities Looting. Critics Say It's Not Enough

"His facebook doing enough to stop the trade in looted antiquities. FACEBOOK is announced new rules to crack down on that aggressive trade. As we're about to hear some people used the social media site to sell ancient artifacts. They haven't even dug up yet. We should note that facebook is among, NPR's financial supporters. We covered all the same NPR's Jane Arraf has this report Kamenica ruin. My medically. Heavier. Video posted on facebook of an elaborate Roman era mosaic, the mythological figures and animals in colored glass and stone are still vivid two thousand years later. You can hear the voice of the man describing it, but you can't see him. Then, the video pans out to show the mosaic offered for sale is still in the ground uncovered in a field of dirt and rocks. I, mean they're showing to you in situ. This is the from an archaeological excavation. That's Amaral. Azam, an archaeologist and professor at Shawnee State. University in Ohio as Syrian. syrian-american says, the mosaic is in northwestern, Syria where there's been fighting and looting of antiquities for years. Mosaics are very common item that are often offered for sale on facebook either on individual pages or in these groups that are dedicated to either selling of looted antiquities or these groups that are dedicated to basically crowdsourcing information on how to Ludwig Lud- as is the CO director of the Authority Project Authority, Arabic means antiquities, but the acronym stands for antiquities trafficking and heritage anthropology research. The organization is tracked at least ninety five facebook groups dealing in looted antiquities many from conflict zones including. Syria, Libya and Yemen facebook has prohibited the sale of things like drugs, guns, and wildlife on its pages. But until recently, not illicit cultural property, just late June. The company announced that it would add historical artifacts to the ban tests. Davis, IT -SECUTIVE director of the antiquities coalition. An organization aimed at combating cultural racketeering calls it. A good first step now is particularly critical time because the Cobra nineteen crisis, it hasn't spared anything including our cultural heritage and above board dealers, galleries, auction houses, even museums there on shuddered on the international black market is staying wide open for business and in particular facebook never shuts down facebook, which also extended the Bantu Instagram, which owns declined interviews on its new policy. Davis's stopping looting isn't just about antiquities, the US government, the United Nations pretty much all of the world's international community is an agreement that looting and trafficking is helping to finance terrorism. It's also facilitating other crimes like money laundering, and there's a documented connection to atrocity crimes including genocide. These groups say the problem is that facebook relies on complaints from users to alert to trafficking. It doesn't actively look for band content, and if it does act on a complaint and takes down opposed facebook doesn't preserve it. The company did say, would preserve the post if asked by law enforcement. Meanwhile Amaral. Explained that knowledge is irretrievably lost. When facebook deletes the posts, they're not part of documented collections that have been excavated probably by archaeologist photographs, and there's a record of. What has ever eyes on these items. When you see this picture on facebook and once items soul, it disappeared because it's looted, any may never be seen again. This is a video posted on facebook from upper, Egypt of an elaborately painted Sarah Office for sale. Inside, is a mummy human remains, thousands of years old. It's one of about a dozen pose that as a Thar co-director. Katie Paul have reported to facebook as violating facebook policy. Since the ban came into force screen shots of the exchanges show that facebook found that only one should be taken down. We focused on post that explicitly said for sale in Arabic were in groups that said, integrity for sale said things like how much or price to make very clear that these were explicit sales of these illicit items. Some they've reported are both into quickies and human remains, which facebook also says, it bans I open up on my computer. One of the pages that poll reported it's been up for three years. They're shipping rates and prices and an amateur video showing what they call. Tibetan antiques. Just, any antique. So host after post of jewelry and objects made from human bones. Here's one with six views of a human skull. Another one of jewelry. Hashtag. Skull, Hashtag Bone, Hash tag, human bones, hashtag human bones for sale. Unfortunately, the sales of human skulls artifacts made of human skulls were left up and deemed to not violate FACEBOOK's community standards. The post was taken down only after NPR asked facebook about it. A points out for us, sellers with shops on facebook. The company charges a commission. FACEBOOK doesn't have an artificial intelligence program for antiquities like it does with other bound items and it doesn't hire experts who can easily recognize looted antiquities archaeologist. I'm real. points out that the company relies purely on user complaints. Can you imagine how much worn formation is on the back end of all this that they have access to? This is a multibillion dollar entity and they won't invest in cleaning up their own side. They're going to rely on to people who have day jobs who spend their evening scarring facebook for evidence of crimes. FACEBOOK spokesperson. Chris, Davis acknowledged that the company needs to improve it system. A former was one of the organizations facebook consulted with in devising the ban on antiquities traded announced in June. The conservation groups say that doesn't do much good unless it enforces its new rules. Jane Arraf NPR News, Amman Jordan.

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SurvivorAU Know-It-Oz | Benji Wilson Deep Dive

Reality TV RHAP-ups: Reality TV Podcasts

1:21:49 hr | 2 years ago

SurvivorAU Know-It-Oz | Benji Wilson Deep Dive

"How do you feel about your office? Is it just a space for employees to work, or is it a space where your employees do their best work when you're in the right space, it can bring your team's closer together and be were the best talent wants to work. When you're in the right space, it can make your life easier, whether it's a new q. or a satellite office with we work, you can find a space that works for you visit. We'd Akot slash space matters to learn more. Everyone and welcome back to the survival nodoze on your host, Nick danza, and we have another deep dot of for you here to wrap up season three all shredding Slava champions vessels contenders. And this is someone who I think we all really needed to talk to really needed to get their opinion. And I am to have on the podcast wrap himself Benji. Good raffles is good. How are you going? I'm good. Thank you so much for for coming on. I feel like I have no idea because I reckon it's like Neely a year to the job that I was like speaking to yo Sista doing the exact same things. Welcome. Good to have another Wilson on the podcast. I'm slowly working through family. Excellent. We, my dad next as I think I met you at the finale he's absolute legend is the good guy veggie. Tell us how you feeling. It's right now. Everyone should be settling down to stop watching the newest episode of survivor, but it's all over. It's been about a week. Oh, so how you feeling now that it's all done. I feel great. Yeah. I mean, it's all done on she. I'm very over at the moment but excited to launch myself back into view one loss time. So this is your farewell to. It is my farewell tell you did the rounds and this is what I to to end with the big bang. So here we all I'm very, very on it very own. It does feel good because also like it just finished on TV couple of weeks ago, but like the actual survivor event finished full months ago now. So it's a very long time, but a good time we were talking about just before we started recording. He's that Benji more than others. You've been on this journey for two years, almost cause of analysts on know about any other place. But after our played in my season Ed, my family will over I was over at like you then launched back into with your application and then going through that process. So you really haven't come out of the bubble to us in a really long time. So I think you're weld in your rights to say over and you wanted to kind of take a break. So I'm glad I'm very glad that you gave us a chance to kind of chatted allow. Before you pulled the pin. Yeah, yeah, me too. Should be good also. Well, Iran, now I think the the listeners would love to be jealous to hear the sound of those waves are in the background. Necessarily thought I'm on the beach in Hawaii about fifty meters from the water, and I'm on a family holiday, which is being really cool, tomorrow's my last day for seven days with my nana's is a yearly Wilson retreat and we'd take my nanna. It's like a special thing. She looks forward to Olea and some of come on it and it's been really enjoyable. Well, you know, I think it'd be safe to say that that is a little bit nicer than the beach. You ended up in Fiji? Yes, a little bit, you know, when they bring your code coconuts with a straw. Rotten maggots inside the throw is Ken away from camp. Just by a little just a little bit. She's a little bit. Of so Benji I wanna get. We wanna go through your game because there's a lot to kind of cover, but I want to start from the very beginning because can you just explain your history with this show, like in terms of watching the show, just give us your background. Yeah, I think you'll appreciate this because I am. I've always been a huge fan of survival ever since you know the Richard hatch first season. I remember laying in my parents bed. What was it like two dozen one or something crazy like that. Watching the first season just I have no idea what's going on. My dad explained like why people leave and stuff. And from there we literally watched like every single season. I don't remember how we watched it. My dad probably tell her that in some immoral foam. He's perfect for these game. Exactly. And yeah, we watched every single season the US and then I heard it was coming out in jail, and I got so excited because I'm like, because I'm a confident guide enough to see from my game play very lucky. I'm a sweet. I'm gonna play and yes. So try that first season. Try that second season analyst got on. Exhibited pump for her. And I says, like, it's going to be next season. I'm going to being at the finale Messa we're announcing season three and I was just like, cool, that's, that's. That's my time to shine. And fortunately, I was lucky enough to get on season three in just being a fan. I was just like so surreal the whole time, and I just wanted to go out there and play big and do the opportunity Justice. I think he definitely did that. Man think he definitely be satisfied that criteria. It's crazy. I've never heard of someone. I've not heard of someone having applaud failed to get on and then getting on the season off to four straight allience survive. I feel like that's a pretty story. So perseverance pays off people. There are so many will. How they audit and get on the first season given up. So Benji you are the like you are the inspiration for? Yeah, knows it was cool because the first season I got. Not that far a couple of phases through the application process. And then second season nothing and I was actually thought it was going. It was my accent that was throwing it off. I'm like, oh, they don't want someone with a strange accent. 'cause I wanna make sure everyone's like fuzzy and then and then also Jericho who. Maybe I'm wrong with that. This is the play again in a win. Well, third time. Well, I didn't take your spot in the first season. Maybe probably. Did you probably. Okay. So let's talk a little bit about this analysts connection, and we end before he gets yoga, and we do have a lot of questions that came in. So this might be a good way just kind of clear that cleared up for a lot of the listeners. One of the questions that three was people wanted to know, how did it actually help you not about getting on the show they had to you out there having someone so close to you having gone through this recently? Was it a in? What was it a hindrance? It very well could have been hindered. So it's it's a very unique thing that happened in. It's almost hard to explain in a sense that it was very beneficial in a lot of ways in the sense that like one motivating me because like when you're out there and it's not easy like, oh, Annelies is being Hanley's pushed through this. This is done really well, and it was just super like comforting to know that. And I also kept asking people like who got voted out to exile island, like last season and just hearing people say, analysts's name was hilarious, jerk. Inside joke, but also once again, very comforting to have these people know analysts and know this person who's very important in close to me my life. So in that way, it was very motivating. Because it would have been this inside joke with you and let you could look at the producers, maybe. Him awake come up. Keep doing that. The office. The third wall. Yeah, I mean, strategically it also, but in the same sense that every season is so different. And if you take like a lot of advice before I went on there from a lot of people who I do respect and people have played the game before, but if you take as hot advice survivors such a flexible random game, and if you try and have this concrete structure that serve, rigid doesn't really apply to your season and you can go home based on those based on what you go into the game. So it was great as a foundation. Things like even like the weighting side of things like, you know, you've been out there. You have to wait a long time between actual challenges and tribal councils and stuff, and just being mentally ill logistics is very helpful. And yeah, it was definitely a definitely a benefit to have someone so close to me played before. Will you worried that once the show I found out that once the penny dropped that you would get booted off the show you'd get booted from the process. So. Yeah, fun story. Not sure if I'm to tell a story, but here we go. So I got on about a month before I was flying out, but when I got on the phone call, congratulations, you're on. I wasn't really excited because unlike I'm gonna get kicked off because they don't know that my sister. And I was just waiting for that phone call and it came week later and I picked up like it and she is everything to tell me. I'm like. Say you found out. It'd be waiting for this and they're like not happy with knee and and that's strike two or three really wants you on. So you stay on. I was just like, so prescient when I heard that because I'm like, okay, and that's when I, I like those like them invited me on. It was perfect too, because I mean, I did put in my original application just not in the interviews or in the group stuff. Which is what they said. Like we did check back and see that you put it day nam we looked over it. So you went technically Heidi. You're right that she was just. In the application says, Namie family members, and I did. I had a name. And that's as far as all went with it because it's played almost because unlike if they know how to family member, there's a lot of like Benji characters that they can easily sub into show. And I was like, if I have a sister out there, there's like cool was put. The person tells me once I said, we want you out there and then I found out it's much friction the replace me. So I think I think actually at that point once you have gotten had gotten so far, I think it was actually maybe a benefit and the fact that it showed your capacity to law and did, and I think that would have been impressed. But then in some sick way, I think that would've actually enjoyed. I agree with that and I gave her the strict one and it's like, don't you play survivor with us. Well, sorry, let me play. Come close. Last question about the analysts connection. Did you ever come close to actually slipping up out there and and letting it be nine that not only had you was your sister, but she applies of all that and that maybe you knew some of the other place from season two. No, never. No, never. What is pretty good. I was on my best behavior. Very, yeah. You know, it's not beneficial at all other things that less live at times beneficial business. This one's ice doesn't send you any way at all. So I even like grubby who went everything to monitor the idol. It's like, it's like, yeah, that doesn't benefit me at all. So it would have been hard like you Emily gripe imagine if someone had said something bad about and you'd have had to really tried to. How. Mean which one. Well, okay. Well, that's a lot of fans wanted to know about. So that's good. Let's dive into the actual season so you get out there and then you go to say you were so electric in the first five episodes. What what happened? It was the weirdest the weirdest yet. Again, we had a lot of questions about this that you know you weren't in the show for five or six episodes, and then you end up, we'd like the numb the most number of confessionals you are all over every episode, your running strategy, it was fantastic to watch. But if you had told me that that was going to happen at the end of season episode, five, I wouldn't have believed you what. Who is what happened? What happened? I don't know. I don't know me. Like you weren't part of the story at that point and it wasn't until later on that you were going to come in because a lot of people expected. Sorry, suspected that it was the shows have punishing you for the analysts. They know. Interesting. So yeah, when when I got back and started watching the show, I was like really appreciative of any screen time because it's on health. It'd be like, okay, yeah, I won't. I won't. My story told because it's twenty four stories always favored the victims. You know, like Shane star gets told really well, but monitor had a big story out there that didn't get seen at all. And I was like unprepared to not even be seen because I didn't play survive a Flynn, the TV side of it. I played club experience. And so if I ever says on like, hey, this is cool. Like I thought I was getting started a lot even though I didn't get it confessionals every time I came on like. Me Ingala waterslide. The gift that in it. So I was caught with the first six. Cool. I know I had a couple of big moves. I know I got he's and Teagan and ninety Raj is unlike Roby's a good looking dude, and they may just give those moves to him. But even in that sense, it's like. I didn't care. I didn't care what happened. And when I went out there, I, I. Laid low in a sense of strategy for the first couple of weeks because I nation, but it's every place of Streletz of governor there. I Russell hands, Matt, Dyson, even Stevie who was crawling around and confide was still alo-. Alo- is gonna go home. But I didn't. I mean, I also talked to very big game confessionals at that point, but I didn't do anything. If they showed any Mike investments that like what was talking about, he hasn't done anything that is like automate game. I'm running the game and just. Yeah, like Benji. What have you done. So it's sorta make sense that they didn't. And there's so many characters with twenty four people. I get the best two loss. So you mentioned confessionals. You talked basically you spoke a lot of smack, but like in a good TV where you've had the godfather thing. It king in queens of the contenders, the Mighty Ducks painting a masterpiece Benji. Can you come to my English class and teach my students how to use a metaphor. Jing out there. I'm a big fan of medicalised visual personnel earn in menopause, and I speak in metaphors. So they're handy tool and apparently that good for TV to all night, they, they really sucked them draw. I didn't like it. Did. I did come up with a new one and you hear like twelve times episode, God, I hate myself right. Great. So you mentioned before Teagan. So let's get to this kind of pretty big. This was your first big storyline and this was the whole Teagan thing you decide that you're going to get out Teagan she's the Queen, he's the king. What was it about Teagan that made you want to do that? And why did you come up with that lot. Yeah. So I'm going to go back a couple of votes because yes, so the motivation behind it. So we, we had a tot three me type, four muzak, Stevie, and Robbie. Antiguan and heath, and general who great move and go into Stevie who was really becoming like a clutch player for us for us. Boy is going to give us the numbers because it was. It wasn't too much of a girl boy dynamic, but you know, we had a tight four and four out of a Levin is pretty strong. So when I got rid of Stevie sorta like shocked me a little bit and like, oh God, it's like a slap to the face, like wick, bro. You're on survivor. This stuff's going to happen, and I was really fortunate to have that happen to me because it's like, okay, cool. Now I want to stop playing and then phosphor little bit to the Genevaux unlike cool man here to have fun. That's the number one reason about there is to enjoy myself and make big moves. You know, take advantage of this insane opportunity sound like time to make big moves and what happened. The Jenner vote. Everyone's like cool where voting advocates. Obviously she's injured and I thought I thought he once again was going to pull a false one and get rid Zach now award about that. And next saw. So again luck a little bit paranoid about like losing Zach. And then I'm just left with this is mean rubbing. We're probably next to go after that. And so like with Geno vote, I really had to just like hope that it wasn't gonna go that way. But as members sitting in trouble council being that coup this time to make like if I play and I was going to write Zack's name down and just be confused. So it was going to go over. It's jenex f. a. one on sack and a record like sorta pit tea and Zack up against each other, Ron and Essendon Chow counseling like doubted myself. And I was like, what? If this is not the vote and and it's a split vote and zachos because he won't vote or summit. Then I started having these terrible disempowering thoughts in my head. So I wrote down Jenas name and I went back to camp that nine just had so much regret because it's like a play to have fun. And here I am just following everyone else fall in the rules, and that's like not me so. After that is just so motivated to do something, you know, make it bigger. That's a respect back from myself because I really whipped off. And just the rest of the game was just like, okay, what are the cool big thing can do like game saying, I wasn't out there to win. That was out there just have fun and play. The sound like coup first big thing to do is get rid of the towel couple. He's in Teagan, and I mean, we're, we're losing the challenges and heaves a big dude. Sound like cool. Let's just Teagan and. We went off to Teague and happened to be a twist at that point in time which made my saviour returns that much more exciting. Look, you know, surely survivor. They love to say people, seventy s you'll you'll system or a self, like it's unfortunately, it was the person that you, you lied to get out, and it was absolutely like fantastic to watch then. Come back. So when she was she comes back there was that saying where Harran Haran Haitham lying in the show and you looked really worried, and I said that one of the things about your game is it seems that you are really good at lying, but when people confront you, you you look a little bit scared where you actually scared in that moment or were you kind of like, it's okay, I can. I can fix this now. I wasn't scared. We had a talk with heath and Teagan probably everyone was there publicly went for three hours year round. And it was it was twenty seconds on the show. As you know, like I think the underlying. I'm sure you understand this to to survivor. It doesn't matter really like the you tell the big moves you make is like it's just a social game. They just need the right pieces in the right place, and it doesn't matter what other people think of you. And I was like, cool. I know I can pin most of this back on Zach. Which would seem to work well and I, it doesn't really met on. It's going to basically pin this on on big on pause and. And the other thing is like what we have, shawnee and Fanilo we have me Robbie Zach, let's five and I'm not sure I was there nine at that point. Maybe page Teagan heath. We got the numbers like it doesn't matter what he's in teething and up stinking. And the whole point of that conversation was trying to just. Just docket. So happened while I can. No, I didn't have the target only up those conversations. The next was was heath and it was page and then Roby's name came up before me. So it's like I never actually felt the full heat that I should have. It was definitely was much more exciting having coming back and tribal knowing what was going on. So you mentioned Zack. Obviously, he is the lightning rod for controversy. He's opinions and things like that. Did you ever feel like, man, I'm going to be seen as guilty by association not by the audience that doesn't matter about that by like by the other players because he seemed like he was so highlighted by the gills. Did you ever feel like this is bad for me? And is that why you cut him in the end? What was your relation relationship with Zack in those last few days? Zac who really tied out that he was tied to Stevie. I was not concerned with people thinking about Morales was act would like Kumi onto with him in the sense that. I don't know. I, I guess I was very self aware about an bringing like, I just want to be associated everything that says, people who also close to me like shawnee vanilla. And obviously they don't always know and also like in the same way that Zach is incredible meet showed like pig, Billy polarizing guy who like rubs people the wrong way. Just five hundred his mouth. It's like a shawnee in Fennell. If we take, we're going to go so much further. It's only like aligning incentives in the way that I'm having a line Zak with the others. And only when sort of like that twist. Antiquing comes back and, hey, DJ is not having any of my my lies anymore. And shunning Fennell realize that they are now in the most powerful vision position in the game that is sort of when, okay, I sort of have to let go of this. The can't some polish guy. Nobody's really getting along well with that. Yeah. But yeah, I think it's interesting what you say about kind of luck, aligning incentives and stuff. I think that's definitely what you want to try and do and try and sell it. But like you said, you definitely have to cut by every once in a while and and you try and eventually do have to kind of cut by on page, here's well. Could you tell me a little bit about your relationship with page? And because it just seems so up and down. It seemed like she was with you guys, but she wasn't with the other guys and she wasn't with you either. And she was just kind of in-between. What was from your perspective about your relationship with patients. Yeah, pension relationships. Very interesting. Some of really good really well. My thoughts from the early days pages. She was very much a social butterfly floating between heath and Teagan floating over the strontium Fennell offloading, Evan and me, and Robbie, like she talked to everybody, you know, and room is got around from things that we were cleaning like overthrowing the Qing heath to back to back to the gills and back to heath. And we're like, where is the leak? And we assume that it was page. When turns out was general and we saw page compu- trusted at all. And there's a couple of small examples. Just info just leaking gun. I'm telling Robin page Ron. Rummy is not going to be like, I'm sure it's paid. Yeah, info keep getting leaked. So that's what made us really second guess page. And we wrote her name down because we trusted Stevie a lot more than her at that point in time and amazing blindsided by heath and tea and had made, and it's sticky situation, pages name, who did not see that common. They don't pretty close at and Stevie went home. What about close allies? So we had to really try and repair that relationship and pages. Also a name at that point in time was. Dragged through the mud by me and Robbie and and a couple of others because and like NATO is like alpha. Well, if they don't trust, why should we trust? And she sort of didn't really have anyone to tend to. So main Ravi is standing there with open arms then come on, come on with sorry. Hope you apologize. Yes, the mono ever have, but we definitely did did her duty at that time. Yeah. And she was just floating from then on in really. And what came down to the mayo her, like I choose. Well, around this time, he's also the time that you tell shawny about your job. So can you tell me first of all, there were so many questions Benji about what your job is and the books and stuff like that. Can you explain it a little bit? I before because then they can get more sense as to why you've told why just to tell shining crew. How far back should we go? Like what is what is your job? Like? You know, you said you're a millionare's this, what? What is it? What if you had to summarize it in one one couple of sentences? What would it be? Yeah, easy. So right now I do e commerce, so we help people create brands like for physical products. If you want to sell like soup plano's, you wanna sell microphones tablecloths. I'm just looking at things around looking around the road by headphones and laptop. Simulate. If you wanna create a brand and private label at said, put your own brand on, get it sourced in wherever you want saucy sauce in the US Austin China, and you create your own brand. We teach people to innovate on that brought. So if you're selling a soup, ladle ego through competitors with us. See that people wanna big soup ladle, say like, I'm going to function in my own big soup ladle that people want and sell it on Sherifi Amazon, Amazon, second biggest company world. Now there's cross a trillion dollars through two hundred thirty eight billion dollars of sales every single year, and it's not their products. They sell your products, four injure their customers. So basically I do that. I have about six or seven grands right now, and I've someone who runs at full me and we'd just growing those brands and I also teach it and you can find us on YouTube freedom formula. It's me and my business, Evan. And we teach people how to do this for themselves and make passive income, so they can travel the world, you know, spend more time with family and whatever it is they want to do in life. It's like they don't have to work a nine to five like most people do, which I give people like that option because I've been travelling the world for eight years just living off like different streams of passive income and and the book. Folks had books ghost-written because I'm a mock it. I really love marketing and I got hired to do someone's book marketing for them about four years ago when I five is year when I moved to Brazil, and I did really good for them and made them a lot of money. And I was like, God, I should do this myself, but I'm not a good writer. You probably on Nick. So I hide people who have been writing than me and then marketed their books on Amazon, and we had great success and made like. Grant money from that for about twelve months. And then I was teaching them how to do that. So I took the books down because I didn't really maintain them anymore. Babylon for about five years. The yes and now very, very interesting. Yeah, no, it's good, definitely unique, but definitely wouldn't interest gives you freedom, which is what I want. I don't like people telling me what to do. I was gonna say, I can't really imagine you let putting on a show until I coming coming to my work and well, I guess I could see a teaching kids actually. I think very, very good at teaching archaic. This is how we make money of soup ladles. Sweatshop. So why did you think it was a good job to tell him to a good idea to tell shiny about your income. And wasn't there. Yeah, I think it was great idea. Now. So Stephen comes back from exile, island looking, absolutely rabbit like she was out for blood. She she'd be negative three days. I started having feel sorry for, you know. And she came back and Anita told her what had to happen and everything. Okay. I have Robbie have, Zach. I need shawny because of with shawny comes vanilla. We have five over nine or eight. We got the numbers like, so as long as I go sonny's vote and mentioning how to hacked shoney's. Also, we had a alliance going from day to like we all because we're in the girls camp and the boys camp. It's like all of make sure your name size, chopping block commission minds as off. We need to check back in every now. And then one time she didn't believe me like Tony good. She's like whatever. Just giving us online. Sean tells me you good. But after that, like we had a very open dialogue. And after this thing happened with Teagan shoney's like, did you lie to me? So the thing I was like, cool. I need to repair this relationship because gives me the numbers and the pal. So I was like, Shona I didn't lie to you, but the have told you one line that's to be completely own a so myself too. I'm like, I know my life is in your hands right now. And I was like, I'm actually another graphic design of have a successful business online. And shoes, and she was like, okay, okay. And she's like, so. Sodas in as in, she wants to do. Tell us just like one of those soup ladle. Sodas, and she's like, get your news. I sell song. I'm like, okay, sweet. And from then, I'll like we just had a very strong transparent relationship where we watch each other's back and made sure each other. The safe in his name came up a lot and we looked out for each l. on that and it's very good to be honest, genuine, because I mean, even though I played quite a manipulative game, where lied a lot I did not. I didn't lie to like these people who I really needed, at least. Unless you need to start with something very genuine, you know, I'm sure you experienced that too. It's like people stupid like you need to stop from very genuine base and people really need to know who you are and it's not just what you save at. It's like what you spend your time doing, what he talking about with these people and you they need to understand, do you think they understand you? So they're not really scared of you. So being very transparent out there is helpful in I said, to Johnny like. I said to Johnny like, I don't need to win this money. And I, I, if I get on the jury, I'm going to vote for you and it's like coot once again, a lion, these incentives, she wants to take one of the end. It doesn't need the money or someone who's she can be like, this guy doesn't need money, juries like, yeah, he doesn't need the money. And that's China doesn't want me to go home because I have a successful job shot. He wants me to stay and take me to final two because I had a successful ago brought, so it'll make sense down before we get to the swap. That was one thing that had a lot of people talking and I think you know what it is. It's a little Mexican fiesta that you had a one person Mexican fierce it way you wolf into the nachos. Did you think Angleton it. Did you think that this would cause the uproar that it did because you on the radio gogo box so that like did you think that this would cause that uproar when you add it. A new, it'd be a good time forever. I didn't know. He's enjoyed himself. Now I didn't think it would. I mean, I didn't really see the uproar to. I don't not on social media that much. And I saw gogo box, but like I watch it that much, but I did hear as big and you know my interviews, everyone's like, what saw what the notches valley was big. Oh, speaking at walls, donors goddamn is a delicious. And it seemed like you the only one who saw the previous version season of survivor before you went out there. Like, did you how'd you watch like, did you watch seasons to prepare yourself and did not just happen to be one of them or how did you know it was in there? Yeah. What seasons I gonna play survive. I wanna watch survivor. So as soon as I went down as I wanted to get I because I was like going to get rid of that plate and tea and once again, she's very strong, very small woman. She, she outfox me got down at first and I was just fortunate that she didn't find it. But yeah, soon as I went down there. I mean, the nachos, pulling me in. Steve into them. And I was just like we found the cleared, honestly, Nick, it took me like. Hobie eight. We had a ten minute time slot, and I'd like to say that was probably the most efficient use of the. I found the anyone would do that. Found the clear within about eight seconds and did not take in any of those words that it was written done till eight minutes when they laid is like you have two minutes left and like, oh God, I have to actually try and memorize just because also transfixed by that food, it was twenty three days of that anything, but rice and beans. So. The last two minutes are still eaten us, cushion, pass that wall. But I remember as I always tried that. The the general consensus on it because that's you. What did cross mom? And it's like, dude, you can't read this clue and then go wonder, and the beach cannot find the idol. Like you need to know what the said been there. And did you consider getting rid of the play at all? Did you think that the napkin underneath would be. Can was enough. I've heard that people have skipped go. There was enough skeptical of like he'd sit you clearly works, but if did you think crap, I need to get rid of this giant giant Plata. Well, a thought ticking found the clear and he was coming off to me, right? And I was like, oh, so you're going to be like he did you see the clear it on the plate and he's going to be like, a, what would it? And it's like, okay, someone else. When when he's like, no, it didn't see it. But I did see the plate. So the thing is like coop plausible, deniability, the and they don't know if someone else has found include. A message. It was a massive pollen nauseous left at the little TV. Magic makes a look like Robbie's staring at the beautiful flew up in Switzerland in the wind that now is pretty pretty set in that plan. We get to the swap and you bring Sean Lydia and monarchy come over at that point ever have any plans of working? You said you were close with Sean in Fanilo. Why did you have no plans to work with vanilla and heath? And instead you through your law in with the Sean Ligier and morning, Casado. Yeah, I was never close to Fanilo. Was. Was. And I basically never spoke out of there. And since I mean since Melvin Mel is awesome. Like Dan Fennell, at least. All my interactions through Manella went from shawny. Is they just voted together and. Yes, always ever. Really close to phonology really have a relationship there and heath. And I definitely burn our bridge. Way back row. Now we, we go to that Teagan back and then we put all the verts on on he then he played his idol and he's very wary of what's going on is very smart guy. So, and I mean the the other thing that was gone through my mindset, a Lincoln merge, like seven was going to merge seven to five. I'd prefer to go like nine, three all like a eight four spent. It'd be small because yes, threatening at in real, I wanted to go small, especially if I could force some powerful relationships with someone like Sean who has a lot of power in that game and is incredibly smart on like, I'd love to sneak in emerge, nine, three yen, a champion Cousy three of them with God, all five votes before we even have to worry and start getting the champion says, like, definitely tried and true strategy. This year. Yeah. So that was my thought process. And once again, like relationships weren't strong with heath olefin Ella and they were with John and Monica, will it works because you get rid of to you in because you don't say. And you get rid of heath. But one of the thing that happens before merges that you find the auto and you find the auto at night time and you gross the ocean can use quickly give us a little bit about that because in my experience you all out to search for the at time. Production doesn't let you about. It seems like one of those things that if it's gonna make good TV, they'll go for it. So can you explain that a little bit. Yeah, yes. Also bottles at night since like they three us is side. No. I remember those torch is not one of the ones that tribal, but like one of those comes from the palm trees, you put it in the fire sort of stays late, but for like ten minutes and drops these embers. And I remember going out with the Kenyan man look for this idol and like taking these backtracks these woods and Fiji like combat anything, and then that guys got these not chemistry knows what's going on. And I'm from these Mba's behind me. Now think I'm hitting straight down this beach, like within the trees and host. Sudden I start seeing like Mba's in front of me. Was like, is someone else up looking for something? And it's like nominate. Right. On, jeez know. Humbly went home and I saw looking for Moran at dusk time because it is does get doc out there. But anyway. Yeah. So the problem with this idol is the tide like the tide comes in during the day out during the night at this time. And to go get this long journey today to swim out to this island. And when you swim out to an island on saliva, Nick, I'm sure you're well aware that's like you look in for. Bloodlibel reason that I'm swimming an island appall from the look for an idol. So like I'm not gonna gin day, just silly, huge, died on the back, and we're going to play the little at that tribal council and a model. Listen, everyone knows that I'm like dumbest make. And so I went out at night host feast was just full of energy, couldn't sleep. Moon was Brad. And once again, I didn't know anyone else seen this clue inside keep looking at that island. I came on island, Keith is going to going out there for any reason. I'd honestly just trying to out sprint him and the idol before he did. But not time rolls around the tides all the way out the moons Brad, unlike sweet. It's. Time for nine, I said to myself, I'm coming back to camp until the sun is up or have an idol in that park. During the boat sort of thing and of no second thoughts. Because once again, you follow and it's like you second guess yourself a lot of they like, what? If someone sees me what this this notoriety on the Adelaide not going to sleep at night out there on the idol took that forty minutes alone time and then came back in. Happy sleep. Very good willed on weld on that one. So Benji we at the merge and I wanna just kinda know like what was your plan from their own woods? Were you did you want to ditch the because it seems at this point that you do really ditch the contenders, all of them. Robbie, it seems like there is a bit of a kind of leave shunning Fennell out and you are trying to get in with the champions. Was that your plan at that point and follow up question at that point. What was your ideal funnel? Three. Yeah. Great question. So I'll give you a just every everyone of my thoughts that I can remember coming into marriage. Number one is as long as I have Sean Sean, my interests aligned, I will not go home because Sean is Matt's right hand lady and very smart woman who are no, as long as I'm looking for Sean, she's looking f- me I'm safe. So that was the number one priority. Number two on you ahead, Robbie ahead of meat. All the times I would love to have Zack onboard as well. As we said, we lost him. We lost a good man. In its citizens and. And then me and sunny was still obviously tight. Like I mean, I don't know if it shows up at means. Johnny is still telling the mostly everything and still looking out for us. So I'm like, cool, not going home. I have at least Robbie ahead of me if it swings to the boys and I know I have Sean. So heading to funnel three at that stage, not one hundred, and I want to know I wanted to wasn't. Robbie is. Putting credible game, didn't want to sit next to that, and it was it was published sunny. There's definitely. And probably money Monica. Right? Because because we also had the secret Popo lines and we were quite close, especially come merged on to. Did you did you no one? No. About your auto tow, like because you say like, all, you know, we tell each other everything, but like you didn't. You didn't tell your closest allies about your auto? Yeah. I was in auditions for survivor and the lady the Amelia who hosts it is like, please, if you find an at that, don't tell anyone let I cool if I get on to this woman proud and nuts aisle anyone. So when other didn't tell anyone because there's no benefit like especially like when when Robbie was getting voted out and has nothing I can do. I mean, you saw me run around the beach enough to trying to save him trying to get the numbers and it comes down to and he's like, dude, you have an idol. The KFI play, I go home complicated things. It would have been good for Sean in phonology. No, by the Idaho. On my elimination because I met a like just play your idol. Dole at sawed, right? But up until that point it was just good. It was just my secret. So before we get to ask you about that when we go Sam, but before we get that Lydia blond side and that would have been a great feeling for you, I see him, but you weren't involved in. It wasn't good for you, but at least it wasn't new. So not great feeling, but also in okay feeling, I'm sure. Yeah. So my favorite line of the season is when after league gets voted out and Roby. Another one. Along the lines of light? Well, who was. The head vitals. Yeah. Did you ever feel that you like what had to do a lot of the strategic heavy lifting for Robbie, or was it kind of like a shared thing? Definitely thing robberies, very intelligent. I mean, the ad can take to make anyone look little bit silly out there. I know. I know. Apparently. Yeah. Now, every very small, we always had a shooting star talks at nighttime, and we both bounce ideas of each other, and we saw shop and each other swords and. Advisor, not. Now there is a great guy and also like stuff like that that Lydia vote. Rub in Iowa. We had the bumpiest ride into merge, probably possible added that and more than anyone else out there maybe Sean as well. But like we always looked at each other because we had these grand plans, things are going to be easy, keeps TV. We get rid of Teagan. We sail into merge full bro, strong like, and every time it didn't go away. We always look like Cooman. It'd be boring if it was easy. Right. Like we'll just very optimistic. So Lydia goes home was like coup guess while we're on the bottom, but it'd be blind if it was easier. Right? And just fight us all like we're both very competitive with both like challenges and. Cool. The next challenge is get off the bottom one. One thing that this is probably who Mata say what you did rata wrong, but I think this is the one thing that I need clarification on about why it didn't work out because it seems at this point when Roby goes home, that with your auto, you can actually make this work. If you get you Roby, shawnee and Fennell get back on board and they split the votes. You can get, you can get it out. You can work this out that if you play the odd alone, Robbie that you will win the day in that vote, did you think about that in that moment? Am I rating that completely wrong? No, I'm right. And it's a great question because I mean, I asked myself that that how often as I'm running around trying to rally the numbers, the problem that I ran into is Robbie is was playing an amazing game. He was a big physical threat and. Won't rubber to stay around for that reason that Fennell doesn't finale love to see show variety, go home. And so it's sunny. And there were saying, is he playing an amazing game. Then if his supposedly he's LS wanted him to go home. An amazing game in the sense, he's a big threat. If he makes it to the. Well, I like Fennell and Johnny looked at me. Like, dude, we have. Opportunity to get rid of rubbing. It's it's like, this is this is like it's amazing. Yeah, but what can we do it later? Like like, nah, recalls too much stress and cost me wave. And then all of a sudden off, all three of us are on the bottom. Four of us are on the bottom as a tight contender alliance sort of thing. One hundred sent down if that plan was going to go down, but I could not get the numbers to help me. And how would you have sold that without telling them about the auto, which is something you didn't want to do. So I understand this was wondering how that kind of fit into all of them. Then the next episode is probably one of the greatest episodes of survivor mainly impact because of mostly I would say because of you and a little bit of wash Sean was doing was amazing as well because it was so fun. But tell me this is a biggest episode. What before we get to the trouble council and when you spook Sean and all that have what was the what? If you had to boil down the what was the one key in getting the Mighty Ducks together? What was the one key in in bringing over Brian and Monica was at losing Ravi that made them more willing to work with you? Was this something that you said to Ron Monica? What was it that one thing? Yes. I mean, the one thing would just be like incentives being aligned, and everyone was basically. I mean to go back a little bit like Lydia went home. Robbie went home and Sam also went home. I forgot the sandwich. Yes, Sam went home the day before that and that have the coal alliance was calling. The shots was Matt, Steve, Sean, Shane, and the top four and go Brian and Monica. Knowing like cou when asked and me and Chanel, both knowing cool worlds. The next it's like whoever they choose to be next is going to be next. And after that vote, we can no longer flip it. It's at nine and we've got five, and they've got four. Like if you wait one more vote and one one of them goes home. Say, Brian goes home. Who put the vote went out full full and we can no longer flip that. And there's no getting into that coal for alliance that these champions had. This is the only chance that we have to do this. And I mean, I was pushing hard for it and it will. It didn't take much convincing because they will also pushing for it because it's like this is Las chance aligned interests. I like it so. So before we get to what you actually say to spook Sean into playing her auto for herself, can you just kind of explain the which links funnel trouble council did Sean, no beforehand, not that she was going to save him, but did Sean know beforehand that Matt was going to go home? And if so, how did you know. Dear Sean, if you're listening, I love you. Yes, she did. You did no shot. Thinks she has. She's admitted that she did. She did. She had heard, she's she hasn't laws. She said that she had. She knew he was going home on it was getting votes or something like that. So, well, she said that on on the reunion, she said that it was just too too light before she could do anything. So I don't think that's a law, but how did she know did you did you tell her? So I told her that the swing was in effect because I mean, once again, we had one hundred percent open communication. That was the key to having such a genuine relationship with someone very powerful Kanafni. It's like, cool. If you want to jump ship with us, I'll look up to you. Like you have looked up to me. And so I gave her that heads up Monaco also gave her that heads up, so go into tribal. She was well aware that Matt was going home as exemplified by playing an auto foreign. So. This is the bit where you guys kind of got into this at the reunion and this is like seeing your parents fi. I was like, Meg guys during I love you when you do it. So what was. What was you say that she you knew she was going to play it on that, but she claims then she came up to that came to that decision in trouble council and I'm inclined to believe that she came up with that decision trouble council. So how, how do you rebut that and say that you knew she was going to do that. Here we go. Sean is an incredibly intelligent woman and her best move is to play it from that. Like running running the situation in my head this scenario head like it's it's on that episode to. I'm like, the only thing that could go wrong tonight is Sean plays. And would that going wrong Sean, maintains the power Sean, probably still looks off to me because she's stop using Ovech stability. Now, crossed me using my information I told I was going to match. She plays a fa- Matt, so I don't know. She comes back to camp the most powerful women in camp, and that's a great move for Sean Sean is a very intelligent woman, and she will always play the best move for her. So like walking into that travel council, I'm confident that Sean is going to play that for Matt because she's very spot. Definitely understand that one hundred percent. The only issue is that the way it was presented at the reunion, it seemed like you like, no, I knew that you were going to do that because you told me, whereas you're saying that it's like, no, I knew because it was the wrong move, which I agree with you. One hundred percent of the aggressive, our players should be going well. What's the play is best move, which makes it. It's really hard when you play with people who during this movies, so I totally understand that. But you see how there's a difference totally during travel council. Sean said. Like I Don Jonathan Nassar Kristen, she goes and that's why I'm going to play an idol for myself to not Jonathan twice. Maybe three times to. Yeah. And I had in my head that she's probably going to play out already. Okay. And like you don't. That's not what's doing child. Cal, let's talk to Jonathan. I'm gonna play Nado for myself as most of the time it's played for yourself. I'm gonna play my Idelson that something like this is about to happen so about to go down. So I was woke prepared when it did. So let's talk about what you actually said. Like I bet you have to say, I, I will say that that was. I would probably say it's the best move of all three seasons in strategy, and it was completely it was unin icon, speak highly enough of it because it was so new and I don't know why people haven't thought about really doing this before. I know we've had now, can these kind of done it and when do did it things went, did it to some degree. Germany, but I just thought it was absolutely fantastic. How did you feel when you were doing it? Did you think this is going to work? Or were you like this? No way. She's going to believe as I was Laurie. Like there's a fifty percent chance this works and as a fifty percent chance of dozen and Sean ends up going home anyway. So I mean, I was allies like it's raido die tonight. It's a big night no matter what just happened to go the best way possible in a sense. But also, I mean, it was like you said it was a great move, but it was also my worst move. I mean that got me voted out the next travel council like I made a lot of that gain that didn't get voted that gave me a foul. This one's definitely the flashiest move, but strategically speaking, it was my west move. Okay, coup. So what so obviously, yes, it's fleshing it. It looks amazing, but you're saying, now is your worst movie, which I really appreciate that. What would you do differently than nothing bro? We didn't play with regrets. I know you don't have spoken already auto play. The gets old that bub-bubba, but now with Hans told me if site another player is in that exact situation, if you don't want one of what could they do differently to win that game, win that round and also state stylized further on. Yeah. Well, that's that's a great question because I mean, I was at this crossroad day thirty seven. I think it was where at end Matt's trust, Sean stressed. Stephen chain were did not speak to them much at all. But you now though pot of that and and they needed those numbers and there's so much pressure on this big flip and everyone's incentives are aligned and ready to flip and everyone's going for Matty. And you know, they don't know if that's gonna plays idle or whatever, but. I owned the trust of the most powerful person in the game, and I have Shawn's trust as well, and they have to really strong allies and baning foaming Sean that the flips going to happen and I can stick with like, Matt thought I was going to be right and Brian's name down that night. And if I wrote down Brian's name. Then we have three people below me in that pecking order, and I'm sailing into top five and probably more than that because I know Sean would probably want to make a couple of moves before getting to the end. I mean, that's the boring way. It would have been too Paul on with them to get rid of Brian. Is that what you're saying that sure on as well as you another couple of rounds, but something else can then opened up with two rounds. I still got an idol in my pocket. No one knows about Sean relationship strong yet, and we can sort of make some magic happen from there. A small boring way. But once again went out to have fun, play big, and so I would do the exact same thing again would just play my idol the next round and save shoney's advantage for the round off to that twenty twenty hindsight. So what so you say the reunion that it wouldn't have mattered because regardless you would have played. The auto for Brian is is, is that true veggie? Would you have actually given up your auto for Brian? Because would you have done that? Yeah. Is that is that unbelievable? It's unbelievable. It's unbelievable. I don't know. He just didn't seem closely aligned to Brian to kind of give him. Yes, it would have maybe brought him closer to you, but it didn't seem like a slam dunk that you would have done that tossing that up or we you like all pleased. I make that decision because I mean, I just I, that's another big movie and I was out there to make those big moves on like cool if that's not going home, the Stevo Shawn's going home yet. So you know if if Matt had played his idol for himself and Sean and played for herself, and I play for Brian where at least taking down that that yet call for lines that was going to sail to the end. Otherwise, that's the loss tribal we can do it right. So I was very much cool if Ryan goes home and I had flipped, and I go home in the bottom, three destroying Mirela shit with net, which I worked so hard to build and destroy my shit with Sean renewables, flipping, but still flipped on her. That's a tough spot to being compared to if someone like, say Steve goes home, and then we've got Sean and Shane on the bottom, and I'm in the power seat of the Mighty Ducks. When did you find out that? Matt actually went home with an ostlund is book. Later that night, Steve, Steve, let slip. Okay. Sam. Super happy with yourself in. I was definitely happy with it, but at the same time as out of knowing Steve telling the truth. I don't know because I was also reading the rumor that Steve had not because I was trying to pin some votes on. Steph's way of throwing that he'd be off him and being like he had the auto and home with net sort of thing. That's funny. Well, would on that because it was such a good episode. It was bloody brilliant, brilliant. So we get to your boot episode. Unfortunately, we have to talk about it. Now, this is in this episode you guys have to split and peak trod pick people to play in the reward challenge. And when I spoke to Fanilo she says that not choosing Brian lost you the game, do you believe is. Also the game and definitely definitely did which inadvertently listen, you do, do you do you think that's true? Do you think he really was that annoyed by that. I think it's a big factor. My side of the story as like of course, 'til. I know. I know I have this advantage with Jani. We have the advantage and I know have an idol. And my next targets was Sean and Bryan saw my cou. I don't need to make make out with Sean at Anita relationship with Brian. I'm trying to work like too far in the future. I'm honesty and I'm talking about that fried chicken that Jonathan's talented, a main Steve Young fried chicken, delicious. And we're like broken out back at the back row of that on that, Matt while I was standing in the water and like, you know, I'm I'm a winless Steve. I'm bringing him closer because he's about solution, which leaves them with just Shane and like he's going to need another someone out here. I'm like, I'll be. I'll be true. And that's what I was thinking. And I also knew that Shane and Brian hated each other. So I'm like, there's a chance, a strong chance of Shane does not pick Brian, but she was smart enough to do that. Right. Well, that's interesting. You should probably like you said, probably trying to go too far in the future than than my show. Yeah, but you go to you. So one other thing that happened with you and Brian and this episode is that he has the necklace on and at at the well, you say that she's trying. She's running around trying to get you, but he actually not only is immune, but he's wearing the necklace. Was that as big as big as big of a faux pas as the show presented it or not. I mean, I do hate this question because this is like a lot of TV magic goes into survive of this is like sort of becomes you undoing. Yeah, and it didn't happen. You like, yeah, this is what everyone's Oscar is. Like, what did you tell Ryan? That's like. I didn't think that auditing key even tweets, but like, did you did you did you? We actually try to make it seem like he was going. She was going for him, but you just forgot he was wearing the auto? No, I didn't say at all. So what I said that Brian was like, dude, I'm the, I'm the villain at the moment. Shawn's coming off to me if I go home, you know who she's coming off the next Hugh on the, I'm trying to win his vote for that tribal council being like, did you want me out here? Sean, goes home with good. If I go home, you're next on the chopping block, and that was the conversation at at the well. And it made me look like a big all silly. Some stuff together. Dammit, you're about to go home with an auto. I think that would just trying to live the line, the full play, maybe. Shani's advantage. I absolutely loved what you did with this, which is kind of like you has power, but you were giving it a little bit of extra palace so that people would come on board with you. Did you did you think that it seemed like the problem with that though? It was that Jonathan then verified at tribal council that it doesn't have the power of giving two or three votes. It just says the power of stealing one. So do you think it was that moment that sealed the deal that brought them Monica, flipped back? Was it already done? Do going into trouble. It was done. Dale guns travel for sure. Like we, we knew we didn't have the votes, and it goes from us more perceptive of that then than we were. I still thought I'll say I was like, the only way I got home is because I, I. Brian had found the idol at challenge. So I'm like the only way that I go home, is it Brian places, idle shown. And then I go home without playing my idol. So like. What good, because she's sorry to give you some more context on this. This is this is my big mistake. I made a couple of mistakes out that made a few mistakes out of that probably a lot. But this was like the critical one that I made get back from the challenge. I know it's basically going to be five chance against three contenders like it's very clear and I say to shoot on Finola I don't tell them about the idol like. They're like, CU. We have this vote avenge. Awesome. Like what? Good because we're gonna play this advantage tight full. We're going to revote Ty. We're going to go to rocks and I know that the numbers are coming to me, so I don't have to draw a rock sound like cou I'm safe tonight. I just had to convince donate Fennell to go to rox full me. So I was trying to convince these two goes to put their life on the line for me, and that's where my focus was a never thought. And this is the mistake like we can't tire this in the second round. If the vote advantage doesn't apply. I and my head is like tied tie rox. Let's make sure that people are going to go to rox full. That's the big mistake is like it's not tight. It's like Thai lose and go home on your pocket. I didn't see that. Okay, that's very interesting. So veggie you give voted out and how quickly did how did it take you to realize that you had beaten analysts by one day. It took me from the ten fifteen minutes smashed down. Chocolate pods. Go wait in the car, and I was like, hanging on us. Yeah, you know, I initiated city days which is impressive. You know, it's funny. I was thirty seven, and then she on the podcast hanging made for beating me by one day. So now you get to return the fame feeding him whenever bullies you, you give me a call and I'll Steph not good. As well as she was thirty days. And once we go to that day mock berry like happy that I had the same experience as out there. So you go to villa, can you just we don't need to get into the minutia of, you know, lots of Jerry Lewis. We've seen the videos, but can you describe the vibe? What would people thinking about the people that were still left in the game? What was just a general vob about who was gonna win, etc. Yeah. So it's your real. It was amazing. Like I left the game and join the frat house, and it was Matt Rogers is just a top bloke. Here's Larry's Robbie, as you see incredible guy and like we just brought out we had. I think we have four days before anyone else joined us, and we just went to waterfalls and just hung on eight and go fat. So I love that post. I'm achieve your LA. But you know, we knew this Sean was probably the biggest game play left and. If I thought if she made it to the final two, I guess it's kinda cool because it's the first time I got speak freely about what happens. Other individually like, oh, if she makes fun of, I thought that if Sean made funnel to that, it would be, you know, nine votes landslide. And I've, I think up until the final tribal council, a lot of people felt very similar. So could you spend a lotta time with Matt Rojas? Clearly he was the deciding vote in the end. It seems he and Monica. What could you sense that there was that angriness maybe building that it in a soil something building against Sean already like, or was that something that was completely born out of funneled travel because show that came before beforehand. Yeah, don't think Matt bitter at all. Bitter. That's nothing. It's just I got. Yeah, I Gotcha. Again. Reasons. Why think he voted for Shane, do agree with them in the sense that he was he was close to both Shane and Sean, and they were very loyal to him and they're very, like close his friends out there and they both made it to the end. But one of them made a mistake, the cost him his game, and one of them didn't rand. I mean, why would you give it to the one that costs you your game and made that mistake when there's someone who's equally your friend whose loyalty the hallway is sitting and Hastings, she deserves the the million dollars. I guess that'll make sense, but devil's advocate would come in and say, that will shine wasn't with him at the beginning. He she kind of was kind of against that side while Sean wasn't and the other side and said that Sean plight it more dominant game. So that's kind of you know, he can vote. However he wants, I'm I'm a big proponent of people can do whatever the hell they won't live. And hopefully I get a chance to chat to med at some point, but it did seem that there was. All the reasons that kind of came into it, but which I understand. Did you send? Did you say that sarky going match game was one based on loyalty? No, I think that's the type of game that he does respect other. I'm very different. I like the big news and people playing the big game and make it to the end because that's just incredible. But I do think, yeah, match criteria based everyone base criteria based on how they would play. I'm pre- pretty convinced and he went out and played a very loyal. Like, I guess, honorable sort of game. And I guess that's why he voted that way. So who did you want to win at that point? I want to Taunton shy. I love Sean and play just says such a great strategic game even more than schone. Final full. The most at the moment that you out the moment that you know and I went out Sean Sean think was going to be my number one, pick. Say Sean and then probably shawnee second. Yeah. So going into final trouble counts who and you knew that it was shrine and Sean, it seems like you wanted her to win. You said that you will locked in we ever persuaded, or would you ever kind of like thinking about voting for shine roof. I wasn't. I definitely wasn't saying, and I think locked in going into the travel. It's like cool. Final tribals. Like how well can you talk about your game? And it's like, I've watched Joe game. I was there. I know what happened for loan of it, and I don't really need to be like sold, go game. I was. I would have liked to see Sean own a couple of things that she did with more confidence because it doesn't a sense discredit a big move. If you don't really like to really like open up to it, it's like, well, did you know that this was such a good move time if you really like this is a good time to get where Sean undersold himself in a couple of occasions. But I mean, she just played such a great game like I was not going to be this way to what was your view of Shane's game. Shane played an incredible win his game in the sense that come merge time. You making a funnel through Shing. No one wants to go home. She's not a physical threat associated Mitch, no strategic threat. Everyone wanted to be sitting next chain at the end and. Like everyone knew that Shane was always gonna make final two. So by that logic, would you say that Shawn lost the game rather than Shane winning in. Yes, right. That's a hard pill for Sean to swallow. Go to say. Yeah, yeah. But once again, you know, it'd makes no difference on Shaun's left. She played an incredible game as a lot of people that really matter what you come. You come in. Would you have voted for Bryan if it was a Brian, Sean, final two? And do you sorry, we'll get yes or no? Would you have voted for Brian. No. The only question I would have for Sean would be wise Brian sitting next to you like I would have lost a little bit respect for her taking Bryant to the end when. What I thought would be in a much easier person to take the end would have been chained. So that would be my only real, like what's going on there like. But I don't. I would not have voted for Brian John. So that's interesting because it seems like other people would have lost respect for her about for the inverse that like it was easier to be Brian, whereas you're saying that like you would have lost respect because it would have been harder to beat Brian, but she in the end, she lose respect through the way. Totally, totally. I feel like people's have like. Can have like favorites and then like reverse rationalize why the favorite. Favorite on their favorite? You know? And so do you think that if it was Brian and Sean, it brought shun had taken Brian, do you think that it would have been a seven? Two vote with only shown in phila- voting for Brian. Monica was very close to Brian, and she gave vote to Shane. So I think money if the tribal went the same way would averted Brian, but we have shown. Yeah, probably. Yeah, probably I don't know. I don't know where map what's his vote in that situation. Probably interesting. Yeah, it is an interesting one isn't it? It's definitely a definitely a very interesting travel council to kind of dissect, and especially when you put it in relation to the other trouble councils that we've had inustrial Ian survivor. I feel like it's kind of interesting counterpoint, and definitely it reinforces why you need to kind of own your game. So yeah, very interesting. Benji that's the end of your journey, but we've got a few questions if you wouldn't mind indulging the listens. Let's do it all ready. Okay. Let's asks on Twitter. What have you learned the most about yourself during the process of playing and then what she yourself back on the telly. Damn, that's heavy. I'll give you something I've learned enough. It's the biggest listen. So much. I think I think. Show you can relate to this knick and it's a little bit cliche, but just like what's important in life when you take away everything. When you have technology, don't have family done a fringe of business. You don't have exercise or whatever. It's like when you take everything away from you, what do he actually miss? And for me, I missed my family. The most and like it's everybody knows it. But once you're out there for forty days, fifty days and. You don't get to talk to your family, you realize like. It's such a opportunity that I'm so Krisha of. It's like, cool, I got, you know what it feels like to have everything shipped to win. I know that these times, like right now here in on in Hawaiian a family holiday, which has been incredible spending time with my family. It's like, this is the most important thing in my life. And the opposite to that would be social media, go forty days without social media. Jump back on all excited to catch up on everything that happened, and you realize that nothing happens like social media. So the worst, like trench thin and the dead, it's like the worst people. You wouldn't hang out with a life. You let you know Ma online for three, four, five hours day since I cool and non luck doing that anymore. And it's been really good just like relining what is important to me in life. Excellent. Okay. Well, we'll go for a lot out of the question. Oh yes. We're going to get deeper depot. Williams has Tucker Bill called to offer an endorsement deal. Well, unfortunately, not yet, but slide into the DMZ. Feel on of element. I am a big fan guacamole and they didn't actually have gawk Mellon nachos tension how hot I would've gone. Felipe patient. Fully Shimon talks about. He also be questioned about, you know, Malcolm being the person who asked people to change up the auto play, kind of like what you did and it seems like an obvious move, but basically is benjy a game changing. Now, would you consider yourself the stralia version of a game changer. Yeah, I think every time anytime someone in Australia plays now in, oh, that's gonna cross people's mind and it wasn't going to cross the befall. So colostomy is a game changer. Jessica fray says, who would stab each other in the back, I in a blood versus water between you and Annelies. Alice would try should definitely try I, but I'd say a common, grab the knife, throw back here in the face down thirty. I'd say a lawn to win nothing that ice no less in the. Seven, the back, God's concern for the one of those Plato's. The blunt force trauma. Me says, have you ever considered always wearing a black? I feel you wear it. Well, it suits you'll persona. Yeah, I really wanted to look like Skoll from from the liking and sort of pool that off. It was funny because Fennell kicked me in the face one like one night and the night after I went for the other eye with the stick. And then yeah, then how to fly my not to get any party stuff put in that as well. So my is didn't love the experience. Tubo question Jason says, how did you feel about the fan reaction to you? People often criticizing your accent or accusing me of lying to the audience about the game, will your finances? Did you find this unfair at all? No, not at all. I'll super appreciative that people were anyone who watches survivor and I didn't hang out with the negative people. I mean, everyone got negatively on there and if someone like shoney's getting people be negative to her, I can see why the cookie on upstart is getting negative feedback on him. So I mean, it's it's what happens when you put yourself on TV and I appreciate the people watch. I mean, they're entitled to their own opinion. Well, last question is from funeral Jennings she asks Benji, would you come back to play again? It's tough question isn't a Nick man. That's why I hated myself. It's so tough because it's like I've just finished and I'm like, well, wild ride. That's awesome. And like we'll talk about Elia now it's time for some certainty. Now it's time for something secure someone to hold me close. And. I think I would play in the future. Once you do get this sending once you. Once you go back to doing some cool stuff in real life and this is not just happened, it's not such a big experienced in your life then yet cooled semi out there. Again, the one caveat is it's going to be bigger and better like everything in my life is like, I just want to go be going to do better. I wanna just do cool stuff, and I don't wanna go out for like a an ordinary season. So I put put yourself out there. Nick, put some cool people, big game plays out, then we'll have a lot of fun. So I'd go back after that cool people versus game plays. This is this the second. Definitely definitely would know in the cool people. I think that's, that's that's obvious. Okay. Well, Benji, thank you so much for stopping by this was absolutely awesome. It was so good to chat through you'll season and just kind of hear all about the ins and outs. 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Australian Survivor All Stars | Week 7 Recap | Jackie Glazier

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Australian Survivor All Stars | Week 7 Recap | Jackie Glazier

"Took me one million pounds. Chicago cyber how everyone and welcome to our coverage of Australian survivor. All-stars week seven. I'm your host Shannon Gothia to talk about that week. I think one of the stronger episodes I I of the season on some some heartbreak. They're certainly for me. And I think my guest is well so it's a big one to talk about and I have a great guest to talk about it. Another person who I probably would have been well served on the season itself would once they are not there. I would definitely take them from the podcast and does a great Jackie glazed yet. He thinks much venial are shunned. Think he service on this yeah world. Great Week Tower TAT around. Yeah well firstly. When I was watching that Sir Travel Council this week I was like this is like high stakes. Polka a perfect for Jackie. And you obviously know several people involved. You've played with Shawny who obviously you know recipes for the Queen but Sean and mobile. You've played with his well you of very interconnected into these dynamics shore and yeah. I mean an interesting nine Monday night as well. I mean her is about the odds and your. We definitely saw that plan Monday night. Yeah it was all related. So we'll talk about it But before we do Jaffe. It's a weird to be put casting here in the pandemic one of the one of the industry where I think working from home is definitely suited us But but a strange one I think for me because he feels like the world is on fire and we're talking about survivor still which is like it almost feels unnecessary even more necessary than ever for me. So how you doing? That's a week wasn't toss people in twenty twenty. But how are you? I'M A K. At the minute my My husband was in the states and I was due to fly there on Sunday. May We cancelled that flight. A week got he met on he was. We went supposed to come back to the ninth of April so we will enough. We acted quick enough to get him home. He missed but we know opportunity for the four day self oscillation. He flew in light. Non o'clock Monday morning so Mr by nine hours and we can't really self oscillate him here. We live together and it was just impossible. So we're both in lockdown amendment. So what better time to job podcast? I'm so glad we have things like her on TV. Otherwise I've been pulling my hair say yes a good time to have some good. Yeah I'm so sorry to hear about your trip like it's just been a crazy week. It was a lot when I was a time in my because I'm thinking about causing Tessa last week and it was bad. Then and like the way that it's escalated. I definitely have gone through some stuff this week of life. What is the point but then hear things like no anything? We need the distraction. We need the almost like the the trivial nets of this because otherwise it's just life bad sad really important news all the time. So Do this does bring that distraction for people in some enjoyment in some entertainment and like doing that than I guess like. It is important work. If we can get riled up about the show like let us get rod of about something. That's actually not important. I think that's important in itself. And so many people even use then knocks underlie south isolation people Ashley distancing themselves at the moment. They need that relief. You know the our fat rats and listening to podcasts and watching TV. As so I think we're doing a grosses hundred. Hopefully people will understand what my team has always van which is likely you can stay in your house and like how the directions of podcasts. Which is which is my whole life anyway but it sounds just like kind of government mandated. So we've really helpful to people in that way and at least it's like hours and hours and hours of survivor every week to turn on and at least for now that's not going anywhere future seasons. Tvd based on on the pandemic but so much to talk about hours of content. These three three episodes where a lot. What are your thoughts? Generally on the season Oh have positives about the season so many great return Kaas members and semi favorites back on the show. I'm really disappointed with some of the editing for production so mixed emotions that season to be honest. I feel that every single time we see the confessional shot. It really is crazy. I feel like a lot of people. Don't understand that you can criticize you. Don't even have Dave game but of his narrative and still love him as play like. I think the Dave is again one of if not the Best Australian saliva character. We've had I think he's playing phenomenal game. But that they have to be a gap between like he's mailing playoff but I also don't think he needs like double the amount of confessionals as an expert and then the same as everyone else combined. Which is something we've spoken about. It lent so yeah I mean I think the editing is something. We'll find the season and be like he was a disservice to many and into the service to the San Dives gameplay. I'm not taking any of that away. From human assigns confessionals own psyche is playing an actual actor or a character. It's not even like a real person. He sits there and he puts on a funny voice. Any plays out to the Cameroon on and I can try this not a dining doing. He's confessional today find. There's any real person behind the gist. But he is playing an actual character so I didn't get any enjoyment out of. He's confessionals anyway but I'm not taking anything away from his game play and the things he's doing when he's not acting onto the camera. Yeah I mean I actually do enjoy confessionals like I think it's funny. I do understand that as we said. The coach factor the fact is for the week doubling down a little bit on what he thinks works which makes it a little less genuine but it works for me like. I lost when the coughing stuff. I was laughing. The stuff I get is dramatic but I I like it. I and as I said I really liked Dave as a character a lot more than most characters on the show in its history and even is it gets too much as someone who's enjoying it so if you're not enjoying the confessionals must be like someone bearable fear because this is like the entirety of the season. Maybe man this team me. I just think sometimes I'm dislike. Aw so off like they just WanNa meet it which I really enjoy watching him play taking anything away from. He's yeah he's definitely putting in a great position to win and if I was on jury like he would have really great chance of getting my very easy to bomb too. So yeah and this might have been for me. One of his best weeks in the game which is a high because he's done some great stuff but like the fact that he can get through seven and six without playing his idol without needing it. He's now he's got an eye of the five. He's a short final four. I want to talk about what he did. Travel Council that I found so impressive. Even if he didn't play the idol on Tarzan so just like unbelievable. Play across the board for me. Maybe that speaks to maybe seems as allies should be doing and it's discredit them or it's a credit to him an as always it probably is both of those things but I'm just so impressed with his game. Yeah I mean I want to discuss how the auto to I'm curious about your thoughts on that as well. Yeah so yeah to be nice things to discuss matters and I wanna get your thoughts on kind of all the players. Let's start with the tribal council because I want to talk about it from pretty much. Everyone perspective Shawn's a big one. Varma Dave momentos en but look I. Let's Day on that train. I think it's been somewhat controversial. Because he does misplayed the idol ente- then there's a lot of objects let's say he could have if he played it correctly they win. There's no threat of rocks. If he plays both of his idols he also wins. Today could have assured himself that because if he plays around say chantal obviously they would be picking off between each other only so they would definitely win the day or he would have a very very good chance to sixty six percent chance of actually just played on the right person so he does have two items that will show himself victory but instead he plays the ones who what did you think about that move right so I mean. I'm curious whether he really thought the Guy Wants Tarzan at all. Like I actually just signed auto on maybe just off chance against Tyson. I think it's pretty much stating he wants to go to. Final two ties really wants to protect Kazan. Orcas thinking sending you're really clear message to the rest of the alliance that when it comes down to it. The he is wanting to take to follow too. I mean if I was Sean Connery truly going. He's not taking made a final two. He's taken ties at that point by the message. Dancing to me the first point So I'm pretty. I'm curious about plan the idol. Like that because I think it is making a statement to the recipes allies bit. No one seems to win. That have not. We just haven't seen it but I'll be thinking about point. The dates not taking me to follow through on any situation whatsoever. He's saying Taza. I think he's a smart anyway. I think he's protecting and he's really solidifying. Tarzans oil loyalty to him as well. He's got hard. Who's for Randy's neck? It's not a wasted ardal. It's an insurance. He's playing insurance literally and he's still he's got the individual unity and then one around his neck as well. I don't mind the play. If he's intentions are too tight ties into the final two. He really wants and protected and I actually think that's a smart as me. He's literally if he gets the two hundred percent guaranteed to win against Tarzan. I think he can go back to them and whether he did or not. Nobody can go back and say I just thought the votes were entente. I played it for our lions in the hope that I just took my best shot my best. Guess if who they were playing in four maybe maybe he can say he was tipped off to that. Maybe you could say that. Jackie was slipping. He didn't think she would flip on more. Sean who we saw last week. She still had that really tight. Strategic Connection with and then just say like four ties played for all of us to try and win the vote of the group and but I agree they could say like well why Tauzin and I do think it does reveal his intentions of how important ties and instant because I do think that that was widely. He was doing it as insurance to make sure he doesn't walk out of another tribal council with his number. One likes actress did going home. But the reason I'm confused is because then Sean the next episode when he shows where he's other idol is like. Oh He's going to play this Ross. He's GONNA use this for us to get us through and one of the big reasons. She seems to not blindsided to speak with him at the end. Which we'll talk about and it's like how can you? Because if he was doing the idol for you he would've played it on you maybe laws time council. And because he didn't you might have had to pick a rock but now you seem so sure. Use It for you. That's that's my whole point with this. I was watching him shops. I I mean if you so convinced that he shined his idol in. He's taking he's using it for the two of you then wouldn't you? That's signed world. Wasn't she registering to him? If if she wanted if he wanted to take the final toot he would have played the offer on Monday. Not like yeah. It's just like I understand. I mean obviously when you're at bay we've done see everything and and obviously he could have said telling her Tarzan's ninety spirit and that's why I did it or we don't see maybe. We don't see his reasoning behind it but it would be so many alarm bells for me sitting there as either or shine going. He's typing to the final two. Yeah and whenever he told them and what he clearly convinced him. Almost specially Sean. I think he's alive because I do agree that he will be going to them. I'm sure and say played it for us. It all ties them but I agree with you. In that he is playing it for his ally. He is making sure that ties on either. Isn't getting voted out or doesn't have to pick a rock and I think that does show his true intentions. He's just come back to camp and recovered so well with Mohan Sean. In order to like manipulate situation and make them think that he likes. He is as loyal to shot on. Molten Sean then to ties and when he just almost let let her go to Rox so that's crazy for me but I love the move. I love him playing it for them because I think assured that ties engine action which is so important especially if the numbers window someone who? I don't think we'll ever turn on him getting to a four like that means he has a number you can go to. Fi- he could be in a really really good spot service. I love assuring that loyalty from ties and I love making shorter comes back to camp and what I really really. Love is a numerical pressure. He put on the vote without using both of his idols with what he did. And what Shawny has said in her exit with me was really impactful. Was He devoted? Jackie meaning all of them. I would have to pick a rock and he also played the. I'd obviously ties ENSO's Optima go in thinking. Two of them are going to pick a rock. Jesse might have to talk to of Makuto. Didn't pick a rock forty percent chance. Oh go home. And he's now Kristie odds to seventy five percent. Which is Sean Senator Exit? Debbie was too much like that is a massive massive jump and I it seems that that was you know as much as sean can try to convince him. It does seem from Chinese interview. The that was the the deciding factor. So I think he's gone and put so much pressure on that voice so even though he didn't play the idol correctly mobile received the votes. I refuse to seat is an incorrect autoclave because I think he gets much out of it and he does win the vote from it so I think it's a little bit two-dimensional to look at it like well incorrect. Because it wasn't on the right person. Yeah I agree. I think it does change the surge dramatically and would have been crazy for that amount to St Quiz decision point but signed that when Chan's got a twenty five percent chance of getting a rock wise and she got into the rocks at this point. Vosa too tight She should be forced forcing into tate rocks at this point like get rid of them. Dada you know like I dunno by Schwab. Is she putting yourself in a position that she's convincing them that she's going to stick with the three of them and putting yourself in the middle light that and putting himself in such a precarious position when she only had a twenty five percent chance of during our anyway? And she's literally. I feel like she was really flashy concealing pedophile on getting rock like I. I completely agree. This has been something. I've been yelling about on twitter talking tribal. I don't understand John's mentality to the game because even her saying the last episode. I never want to sit on a jury. I don't get that I feel like she's already had the crying. Confessional hot it is to come second. I've always thought of losing at the final tribal council. I mean losing in a lodge lost by one vote would be the worst but she's still did lose tribal council. You've got an asfaw. There's no money for second place in Australian Saliva and it doesn't matter monetarily. If you come second Norfolk on seven and I think for her that she would be going out. Basically balls to the wall like make-or-break moves. Who is you go to the jury then unfortunate right like that's the end? That's really sad way to go out. But if you if you don't go to the jury then you haven't had to look three people in the eye literally say to them explicitly. So why would I not go with you? Oughta I would read the jury votes and then betray them so the has to be some sense of like you. WanNa be able to win the game. Like yes she she. She assured herself the next few days. And maybe many many more days basically get to the end. But can't you tribal council winning? And if she can't travel council winning the most point like she she won the battle of getting to stay but she's lost the war. I mean like. She's a gorgeous person on like bag on again. Klay on Monday. Not Too too bad. I need to say what needs to be said like you. Some lessons from Jose's and leg jury management like post merge is so important so important like managed the jury do not been too many maple. She takes the decision when uttering her favorite to not to the rocks dangerously when she makes a speech to the sharp shooter potentially is if they actually do trust what she signed to them is legit distrust her if she turns on Obama which she ultimately does end up doing. She's bending those those as well and ain't she managed to Tani Move Loses Trust with Tarzan as well. These are all in one chocolate cancelled. I'm disley chilly lack. I was like sitting there describing art. John Bike I just I just I just baffled by healthy I just I hate chinaware. Or what is you're GONNA play here? What is what is ultimately. You're in game sinking at this point and I could not come up with a single line that she was trying to take to win the season of survivor. Anything I think the Sean and might just be a crucial misreading of earn place in the game. Like even the fact that in the next episode kill alluding confessional with was like. I'm surprised you couldn't like my like audible. Groan from any isolated in Australia. But like she says she wants to take day to the end because he the shields the her so for me. That's a misreading of her place in the game because it's like you don't need shields of anything you have too. Many shields would move against of the volcanoes. Most anyone would have so many friends on the jury that the underdog story definitely going to lose again. Dave if anything you need people to sit next to it's the opposite over she'll you know you need you? Need goes so even her targeting Jackie for example. Like obviously Dave pioneering that move but that would be a concern for me. 'cause Jackie she can probably beat so I feel like she's looking at her game incorrectly. Like is it possible. She's thinking. Wow the jury are really really going to respect that. I convinced three people in front of them like a bull a move that I did that. Maybe he's misreading and I really do think it's a mystery 'cause. I don't think the world's back that I do think they would use their jury votes as a weapon against as obviously she's put on the table and as they promised they would so she may be thinking though that it's impressive rather than just like deadly. It's like me looking Danner Thinking Ace's that I've really got ice fool. That's the perfect. That's the thing that's so interesting about survivors like you. Making moves is based on like a crucial misread of your entire game. That's why it makes sense to us because like the fabric is wrong the basis wrong. Yeah I mean I had come up with a single reasoning. Find Monday nights. Trial shot whatsoever expose and to you holly how to how we can donate to that by understand at this point. I think that Shawn's understanding for game is the so muddled and I can. I can kind of see it because it's like it is so impressive that she's here he did only leaves by one and the win. Is Your Shane only beaten by one? Vote I know. It's a five hundred thousand dollars but it was sitting right there next to each other and chains. I wou and Jericho is out the door. Necks and a lot of premiums is a here in this endgame and players like Shaun and Shawnee have done really well twice and broke have made that kind of end game twice especially Sean. So that she's probably thinking really impressive makes a very threatening. I do see that rationale. He probably thinking that I played the middle the whole time. That's so impressive. Like that so difficult which it is. It is impressive. You do need to be skill to be able to look everyone in the eye and light of their faces while you stabbed him in the back. I do think that's impressive. So I think that she made over hiding her own game and not reading the jury to think like they're also gonNA take that so well. It doesn't unfortunately compared to some of the other games that are just right on their own merit. Someone like Dave. I want all the volcanoes. You have so many friends in the jury so while you are playing a good game and in some ways maybe have a great shot against some of these people like a more ties and at that point to Jackie. You do need to be looking at your game differently because we're not the biggest threat in this game. The fact that she thinks Dave is a shield to her shows that she thinks that the level of Dave and from an audience perspective. That does not sit well for us into Shannon. She lost season three because of a bitter Jiri Lie. She actually lost not because of her gang but because the bill was so actually she's alienated all of the jury again. The ways the Muslim leader. You know what I'm saying like chimed in our client Sean. Strategically to bring these. Sean Sean lost because there was a jury that Z. I've always liked like sean needs to earn more of how with why she lost like she put out the loyalty thing and then the is failed in that regard and they didn't want to vote for it. I mean that was definitely bit. Believed that in the could've want her game but like they were saying she could have done. Obviously she takes brine over chain gorge. She's GonNa win the game as well so I can see really really similar. Things happening here. I'm seeing a pattern. Where it's like. She thinks he wants to take day to the end. Like that's the wrong decision. That's why she's with Shane. Putting things out there that people can then use against are likely to with loyalty. She's now saying if I don't stick with you I'll lose your dream. Looks like she's literally. Put it onto the domain. It's an exclusive conversation so if it comes back to bite her she can't say that's like isolated from her actual actions in the game. Yeah I think. She thinks she's trying a different game of this. Still like some adjustments Polish being made. I mean we get a question. I think it was from Ed. Moses said issue would lose twice at the end. We're a long way from that which he be more like Matt Kimmel. Who Lost twice or more of a Russell? Amanda just didn't speak well to the jury Russell alienated people with his social game for me. If Sean goes down twice I'll be looking at it as like. She doesn't understand that jury. Ston she misreads the jury which I guess would be ironic in her profession but we actually a fallacy in the survivor jury so different from our real jewelry. Maybe that's where maybe that's where like she'd see. He's not seeing it like. Maybe she used to juries having to be impartial. He doesn't realize like the juries do not have to be impartial and they won't be impossible so maybe it's maybe it's a profession. Cloudy a judgment that if he loses twice at this point and it because he's taking day so far in possibly to the very end I will see it as she's mis-read jury if you lose his older optima votes because she thinks with a really strong route that will gain her actually like they're just going to vote for her. I will see data Saito floor and it's all about just the wrong read on that jury. I actually think it could be Sarah. I think maybe her profession clad in view of the jury because I think it all comes down to management. I think that's where she's got wrong and she's just misreading. How'd you should act where she's not typing? All the facets into consideration casses personal relationships and impartial. Yeah I mean. This is a court of law and China's sitting next to Shane and she's saying the jury like vote for like you know she giving mood. We won the most immunity who who has played the best game. I she probably does win. But that's not a survivor jury. But you would think that having lost in that way before would remind her. How different things? Juries Yeah Yeah that's my point. I think that because she lost due to I mean Brian was bitter as well. Promise that she would take him to to so he was never gonNA give him. He's by she makes promises and then she doesn't understand when you make when you you might come by that people China wear them. It's fighting blinds. People you know where he alongside with so much by when it comes to people they can't be beat around and MME necessarily see it as a great game clay. You know the the dist and and if you haven't build a personal relationship with people going to get their data like just ways yeah and I think that she will have to earn it especially if she loses unswayed twice which again with so far away from that but at the same time I heard saying she wants to go to the end with David is big red flag for me and then like looking at it against bow ties and who I I would have said a week ago. She should handily be at the final tribal council from socially. Tarzan is not super strategic with things that some of the bigger players wouldn't love that type of Gameplay and now like I don't know I don't know if she would be like a more than like she might I'm not saying it's a fait accompli. That she would lose but I don't think it should be as close as it is in my mind. She I think she could be. Attah's just by honor. It is an all-star season and I think that display an Oscar is not gonNA win new. A season by Saen. Juryman is that we do have rain. One day gun to credit I mean regardless of whether that things are moving a little battle alienated people not the fact that she's actually making moves. Give Credit and saw this. May I think she has a chance against Tonga rather than Thanh? He's the only person she should be considering type into out. That's the only Komo who we are more from online in a show like has very much alienated vodka. And they just might like Sean better. I don't know it's interesting to me. She's yet most very polarizing Schumer have some people that will be loyal to heavy canvas when she really does like so much she super nas but other than that. The rest are by the wayside. Yeah I mean you've played with moe and with Shaan. Did you get these sense what we're talking about that you get the sense of their game when you're playing with them back on champions beaches you feel like the game has changed. It's hard to get a raid on without agreed on most actual game as far as strategy wise When not hide because even before she got sick she didn't dislike around half and really nothing enforce car sick and she. I from what I've heard you. Connor dennison couple of at at now where it was just being editor Tacos and and being at the at the start and before she made any connections with anyone she by on at night. I didn't really make any connection with on a little. We definitely not friends I mean she left And Yeah I mean. I think she had some issues with her sister. In that as well lane was getting news from highland. That wasn't going well and then she got sick and then left so I can't really judge on her on strategy side of things because I didn't say anything produces obviously decided that they wanted to give her a second chance to come back in another guy side. Hey she is. And obviously you've seen more strategy psychotic compliant compare to the first season as far as personality wise. Yes seen a lot of similarities between our. She loves you or YOU PRETTY MUCH. Not Existence Right. That's really interesting you cannot exist. Danny David you play with. I'm trying to think what she left on notice. Yeah I mean what a couple of weeks kind of didn't that along with his and she doesn't really talk much reading or do so gene racing that Hong Razi like this. They play the game with her for weeks. Like you should get like if you read on her as a player after playing with weeks then like maybe they kind of shocking to me like maybe we'll kind of undestanding some of the discord that we're seeing online because if you're saying that you don't have a read on her at all from the anyone else that you played with that that is true of like people that socially since. I met this thing so distant because of the terminology. Darlie being used in the world but like that seems crazy to me all right. Let's face it you. You have thrown out on an island with people that maybe in everyday lives to connect with you need to connect with these people. Because that's part of the game and I tried to connect with their daily daily cheating reciprocate in any way. Yeah I didn't really connect with Commended Steve at all. It China to be honest. There's no love lost. I think on the Side Day. We just didn't have anything. Come on so there's people that you just start getting along with but still chine find things that you connect with them thinking that possibly you know you make major and they're going to be on jury you need to find something like he trying keep. I think that you'll always find something in common with sign if you say that she for and I'm a social person. I think when someone kind of isolates himself analyze ran under the shuttle makes it harder to. I feel like this. Conversation is more insightful than anything. We could possibly see on the screen. Because you're like illustrating what it's like to be juries. Living with someone they're going to have to vote for and like some Oh. I think you could get every single from her. People like Dave winds up on the jury of ties and does Shawn. Does Jackie. Good votes her. Like I don't really know her relationship with Zach but Lee was them and he. He could've voted for her. I don't know if they had much of a relationship but the thing is because Lee isn't there a way that the jury might second and how it unless book it's GonNa Lose Anyway. The way that the jury looks like it's going to be is with five vitamins. And they all feel. She doesn't have a better relationship with a Brooklyn Moves. But if they feel like you're describing now and if they've lived life dad like how you you're saying you did. Then this illustrates. I think better than we could ever see on the screen. She might lose a jury vote. Yeah and saying that Mos- a nasty to my face or anything like that. But I went on the season. Was one line bleeding like our car. Like I'm not familiar with that. And then none of that went on in my season whatsoever but she was just hard to connect with socially for many survivors survivors. The worse game to to be like love your hate you because you need to be just like consistently tolerated. I think because then. Maybe you'll get those journal Lloyd's so if you have five ultimas Wonka votes. That's a losing gay by sitting next to a ties and who they don't WanNa reward. Or if she's sitting next to sean who I could really see like a shawnee especially being like I promise you. I wouldn't go with you if you didn't go with us and I'm true to my word. I can especially imagine there to doing that. And she has her own people. I could still see a winning game for her. I just think that she's made it difficult for a self because it is a social game and as someone who can be introverted. I get it. But that's why we're one of the reasons I wouldn't go on survivor game and I do feel like you'd have to have those relationships across the even working together they will vote for you in the end and then it becomes a balancing act if you use them too much like Sean is and they feel betrayed. So it's about finding that middle spot between like not pleasing people off too much but also not making them feel like your irrelevant to them and they don't want to give that avoid. Yeah for sure. I think that it is part of the game. You know you need to have so true skills and you know you need to show some interesting people's lives you know like I could tell what about her family background and that fish at the end of the time that we'd spend together pre she would have no idea about my lawful anything about whatsoever because she had zero interest and I do think this is really interesting because I definitely sit on the line when I do deep dives with hopefully some of our allies you know if I sit with like a Dave you might always great relationship with Moe and he will tell me about it and he would tell me about in great relationship and that's stupid valid but the experiences of people who have that has to be valid in and of itself. Especially if you're saying that it's been across multiple seasons and it's just general approach to the game like vans validity in that is the liberty to the jury. I'm wondering if we're going to see that play out But I I want to go back to the thing we touched on which is Shaan mouths as you've said who worked from. Oh together. Can we put our heads together and try to work out. Like what how? She panicked in that moment. Does she immediately changed? Your mind was like with the flip-flopping almost like wouldn't wouldn't be surprised. Sean is she trying to get outta rocketing. A hands dirty and voting booth a friend like a reason like I need to know. Yeah that's thinking. I was like why she telling him to by promoter now because if she didn't WanNa go to the bronx she could've easily just done and done with after sitting down like you just thirty seconds ago and my whole yeah. Why didn't you do it because you don't want to get your hands dirty but ninety pretty much told Tarzan and if this doesn't work he's GonNa tell when you get to Ken? I mean how do you explain that why it just made them? Maybe she was panicking where you are tired and hungry and mentally exhausted out there on it and maybe it was just a really bad life at the united just seem like a bad day. I'M NOT GONNA lie. Definitely like feels like he changed a lot of games so it wasn't a good. I can tell you that much. Thank hurry like this by winning or anything that went on but I just like don is a really bad day official. He won't get many worse days without being rooted out like he might have had to pick a rug instead. She sold her entire game down the river. How does it get worse than that? And then adding that. The thing was just like just. Why why you if you do that. Why didn't you just write his name down instead? Because you know why have solidified with the tribe as well and would mean being moved that she could have had as many as well and Shaima. She's a game player. And that's you willing to do whatever it takes. Yeah but another must've been panic because like firstly toz never gonna do that like completely pointless exercise because he's not in threat of in rocks he's immune he's oil to mode than it used to sean and the most loyal person the game is ever seen so he's definitely not like flipping his work. Vote out for no reason. Only stands to lose is twenty five percent of Sean. If she kind of convinced them who is less close to than Mo like a different world was ties on the one up for the votes. Okay maybe she could now some. Oh He's a friend and her like titus connection the game it'd be like we're at. I guess I don't want to do it yourself. And like maybe Mobile Vasa but like house on is not doing. That Thomson is the least likely person who's ever played so switches we're on the report for L. Like have you met ties on definitely not doing this. But I watched him on both seasons now and are never seen him disloyal to any of his alliances in fact he's loyal to a fault. Yes I mean. Even after watching his first season you would know that this is not the person tomorrow these nice again. It's just a massive misread from her place. Where she seating? We've these people maybe she thinks she has signing Dan. We maybe had some discussions where the challenge is being funneled to in the we haven't seen in. She actually resuming believes bats both had planned on. I yeah maybe she thinks ties on tidal with her than with more but like Taza wouldn't switch to save himself. Bronx you know like Tas like would do the do the nail thing where you could see some way we'd be like I'll just go to the house instead of instead of turning on Mo- so she was never gonNa do it to try and protect. Sean this is one of the biggest mysteries again. Two Zero Music. Like what was she thinking to Mao to mow and then and then get obviously and comes back in and like is immediately telling Mohan Day which shows just how much more loyal to them than to her if ties mouth sitting in follow to Tarzan's trying to convince the jury to give the money tomorrow. He's a mean. This is what sort of person tiles any is. What makes you think that he's got a right? Demos name at this point. Why just as disturbed one? No reason for it okay so we could not figure out why I think I think our best bet is just ship. Panic is that it has digital media panic because and the thing is then mo comes back and doesn't believe Tarzan which is incorrect. But she's thinking about that. Sean will be loyal to them which was correct so like I actually credit. Mos- read that knowing that Sean stick with her but she's not right in not believing tie then but I do believe that. Sean is loyal to them clearly. Super-low if you had a shot at seven six we'll talk about. She doesn't take it and I just think he was. Maybe that desperate. Yeah I mean the things he had. Murray is to say convenience. Shans trustworthy yet. There's no alarm bells when John doesn't devolve the information the bad days auditory points win. So yeah I mean she kind gives Sean Opportunity when I kind of skipped ahead. But we're just talking about this. Mos Blind Trusting Sham said to her the Shan mouthed mode more. He doesn't believe that then they're the while chatting and she saying to shine Jerry anything else you WanNa talk about and then chance nine. Nothing Mike would. Days idle in China is reach idle me if I really thought this is the person that way got a two person strong allies that we have shown told me about the before I had to Kinda brought to and along those to me that she didn't. Yeah I mean it's hard to tell because we don't see enough of the motion relationship on the show knowing that they are good friends knowing that their relationship has been a cornerstone of the dynamics of pretty much everything since the swap. And that's never delivered to us as strongly as Sean and David Mohan Day getting the common denominator the lives of the we had diluted. I'm so it is hard to know. But yes sean disappointed thing. She wants to take Dave to the end. So maybe moist food. Does he may be a little bit. About how close that relationship is getting and when she wants to deal with that she will probably need to shine. Really wants to take Dave to the end because people have said like maybe sean trying to course correct and not take motor the end because last time she took a friend. Shane goal and she lost. But you also took the biggest threat in chain Gordon. She lost which Dave would be. So I think that not taking Mojo to try and correct the whole friendship thing in like Matrix thing would be the wrong lesson from las time. Yeah I mean their relationship. Being retain season with return castaways there are dynamics formed. Obviously that makes the game wish again and these friendships their relationships going into the guy that have already been formed. Think Knowing Marlon Shahnameh relationship asks on of the game knowing how close they are and I just feel very very interesting to see if either one of them counting Chela like I just couldn't see happening really bad really really close at the game. Yeah Sean to turn on Mo- To to take day to the end she would be betraying ally to make the wrong move. He's lying toting on Moore to take ties in which you'd be like link better traumatizing like she wants to take days so that would be shopping. But that's what she told us in the voting conventional. She wants to do. I don't see Mo- taking out shot if anything. I think she would try to grow for Dave kind of weaken that relationship days in a great spot. So we'll talk about that. What about the Sean in Mo- going for Jackie here? I think it's great for Dave as I said. The numerical pressures amazing miracle pressure was very helpful to shine and making people. Rox I I think that they all kind of benefited from that. But I'm just looking at like Sean and Mohan ties and thinking like there are so many people in this game that have such impressive resumes like all three volumes excited to well Dave. We'll be well. You want to keep someone in the game like Jackie who Mohan Chana. I think we'll have a good shot of beating at the end. Yeah I mean you would think within the kind of China about ten days to the answer to analyze them like intentions. I think we don't understand which makes it difficult. Go get get it. Yeah sure I think obviously I think the that. Make the decision believing that Sean was going to stick with Imam Mind. I would be thinking with them. Obviously what I'm going to go to the Roxborough safe. If Sean does keep a word that we will now go from minority to a majority if she does keep away to us and Fashanu game at actually makes a little bit of sense as well because a good on a resume as well. She's now got some votes. We the juryman visit as well. If she sticks with us she can make some news on day and Mohan and Ibon looks good for her game. So sticking lead us make some sense In her game made moving forward and sleeping back to her a lot and really make a lot of sense. I would kind of be trusting what she was saying because I would think he'd be thinking in my mind that if I was shouting at Kinda does make some sense. Yeah I mean I could see it either way. It's hot again to analyze what China should have done because at that point can chief position. But they're hoping this you've at least twenty six percent trustworthy and there is some sense as you said like Dave was immune at this final eight. And you would think that you would want a day that they have to take out David some points. You would think that it's like we'll come back and they said we don't need it for the whole time. We just wanted to work with us. A one void where Davis vulnerable. You could definitely see that that could that could be of interest to her especially because saying like if he plays the idol. Like we'll go home like there's no threat to her. It just is a short at Dave so I don't think they're expecting her to vote for Shawnee and say I'm going to you because I want to take day to the end like that. Pot is shocking but you could see from their perspective. They think okay you know. Some people Washington bids them. You can look at it like no. They drew that much out of her before. They reneged on rocks. They got all of that are gone in front of the jury for chromos herself to them for hooded. Talk about the jury works all of the stuff to make us off. You would think somewhat beholden to them and it was just kind of trying to probably take a threat of Dave and all of that all of the jury pressure to give them a twenty percent chance of turning an while it didn't work out and while her intent different to I think we all they could predict. I do see the logic there show and then it does. Work doesn't lend unity the following amazing vulnerable to have created the pissy storm. It's already Gari is kind of excited. She's and then. Did you think that she should have to end on Dave their final seven? Yeah of course I think that being is never going to be good for game once. She made those promises on Monday night. I think the gardening wave to win from that point is to die on her resume artemis pocket like especially after he should if she can take the chance of sending daytime with an island in his pocket right. I think that put something on her resume. Don's Ashley put her back in a position where she could actually win. This season have saliva. Why she's turned on her life. She's joined by. Then she's got. There's one of admiral materials while she's in a majority in at that point. I think that that's the only way after that speech on Monday. What went on and she's already turned. Tarzan. He's distressing her. She's kind of Jackie's already tend against their. Because you literally convene standing around to get rid of Jackie like in front of the Anti Semitic Jackie as well. That was really hurt any chance today. She she spoke like sending. Daytime with an auto. She knew it wasn't going to play it. Was he read it completely correctly like she she said. I can tell you bluffing. But then she did. She did confusing things with that information. Yeah and the thing is too I think if she stopped to away and gory dining with an idol she has a chance for. She has a chance to still win survivor by would she? Kind of redeems Monday night. I will be. I think it kind of convincing me because I like. I Dunno if she should go for Dave right then at seven because then I feel like okay. Well she would win if you've got to the end but now he's like what three volumes there? That is a very strong block. What is happening at six? He's achieved obviously probably pistol ties. Appoint by taking out Dave. I still think would come back to her but I feel actually outnumbered to a degree but she does have this perfect shot when she knows. He has an idol. Like I was talking to my brother about this and he was saying like in day. Show to the Idaho and it worked and brought SEAN CLOSER TO HIM. But it should have had the opposite effect like forcing her hand to take him out of that point when she knows he has the idol and when she's correctly read that he's GonNa play the island that this is the perfect opportunity so it was a golden opportunity but it does give me concern for her actually getting to the end and again. Maybe Sean should care less about that. And more just about making sure she can win at the end if she gets there based on her previous season on but like okay there are. I think there are other options. Like take churning such threat and you understand taking out Shawny. I'd just think that the way you do. It is like flush the Idol Cape Cod. Something you do like you you. I don't think the buffalo will be slow against you if you were to not with them. But you do flush the idol and then you and Mo- become a voting bloc intentions are and that's become a voting bluff. You go team up with broken with AK at six and then you can even split the votes and and Verge Dave then because I do my best bet is to be going to the end with ties and almost if he needs to work it out there. She's taking out all of our from our. She needs to be taking our day and an idol even though he's so tired with ties at an end has so much installation their word but definitely at seven. All Sakes leave now witnessed. She should definitely be taking the date at one of those. I think the issue is what she did on Monday. Night with. Alabama is literally. If she doesn't stick with them on this vote at least it just I just feel like she's her fate in like barely give her injury and she kind of. She said she's questioning whether what she did. Not This can happen and for about it for like had made wrong as day. You gotTa be thinking what happens if I turn on. Bama at this point one of the consequences and can I lean so far can get into the game now. I'm not thinking about. Can I stay in this game for another three more days on thinking? You can still win spa but a Cadillac rant. Actually to win and I just I just tonight hang on camerin not sticking with band. I sealed her but she can and she's not going to get in June the jury to this point. Yeah I feel like I have to analyze it in a vacuum because like her intentions. All she wants to go to the end of day account analyzed drums. What she wants she thinks. That's the best path then like great. Move like you've kept Dave in the game you've kept his alley in the game and you think those two things elevate your game and good for you so okay you can't you can't fault it. Based on that logic and that kind of what she where she thinks she is but if I was looking at it maybe a little bit more clearly from her perspective. I'd be thinking okay. Woken up didn't go to Rox promise myself to back them up. What the Hell Am I gonNA do? I would be thinking that two pods. You've illustrated you can either take out. Dave make that Hughes Move Obama and then yes you are in a tricky spot. You might get voted. Hung. Necks could win immunity. You could try and break up. Because at that point she will leave off migrant after two on Java in our own and want to go to the end together. Are you to try to wake up that group? It makes it hard Positi but you do have the biggest move. The game putting out David an idol in his pocket on your resume and you will definitely win. You have no John of being one of the very sad club of people who've lost at the final tribal council two times. No one wants that wants to be with Amanda and Rosalind Group or you can be thinking. Okay I have screwed over my jury chances a lot. I will go with an easier way to the end which is like to to focus on off now because that's such a group stronger of three to take up. Dave at a point and just to sit next to someone that even if I've pissed off everyone as you said before like maybe even then I'm beating ties in so that's my best bet is to just give myself a safer route or much more boring to the end and just hope that sitting next to ties. I don't even know is a NASA me. They'll hate voting for me. Like oh it will. It will be terrible for Buffalo for me. But they'll do it because it'd be worth to work for the past next to me and I think you could have been options for her not without the pitfalls but legitimate options but unfortunately neither oxygen was taken because when out onto the final five. No one flush Dave Seidel took a shot at him and just basle. I'm baffled today. Could get through this week without me. His idol I am just anything is there. Let's just say that. She got down to three and she would have been. Let's say it's her Damon Taza. She would have to win the final. I mean any challenge to get the power to think titles so I've diocese agenda by just seems obvious. From the way I ll passing oil to her like at least at that final Senate and she thinks she's only showing the idol to and that seemed to have really worked. I mean the thing is at what point into. She thinks she's she's GonNa be him there. We went to radio hazardous longest. The analyst can give you nothing more shocking and confusing to me than voting confessional Sean. I'm voting K. Could have been shawny voting for you. Because you're a huge threat go Mari. I'm coming for Dave next okay. I get it. It's not the flashiest move. You might lose some votes but I get it but the hardest say Shawny voting for you. Because I'm Dave he's my shield in this game and I'm going to take him to the end I know I just quoted verbatim because I cannot stop thinking about it because I analyze it because it's so divorced from what I understand is good game so every analyzing about who game now is just like in this vacuum of what she's not trying to do because our intention is to go to the end with Dave which is something we can analyze because nobody wants to sit next today the anger we are agreeing on these. We'll do no one should want to would would. I don't know on the show. Nobody should we should. We'll do one two. That's maybe we just haven't seen things. Maybe this causing people to like an hour into this and I'm saying I'm trying to come on here exit. I'm saying I stumped. I am stunned by this game. Play I am is Dave's game so different to us than what they are. Seeing their reason they think dave is someone that they could be in that it is. Is that the question. Mark that days game is the thing that we we seem confessional. We see all these moves we know. He's a great player and it doesn't seem like anyone even that mad at him. Do they think he's not that good. Do they think people will be angry at him? Zapped equipment is that where would you free here I mean come on? It's not giving you any ads to understand what especially Sean has been thinking these this way. Especially how do you think that she was wind back before? He showed her the island. What do you think of this what we think before? He showed that the aisle. That's also really good. Question Dot Com. Today I woke up to compiler questions I got a lot of like. What is John Thinking? What is going on I know either? We're all in the stick now that it's like what I don't I don't get it. I get the Sunday does seem my that. Really pull her in but the reason I think that she might have been with them anyway. Because so the next episode motels Schon. He was manipulating you. Own You about the idol and is that have been the defining factor in her sticking with day. You would think that then she would say well. Screw this we're going for days now. I mean they're having shot in final sixty could've blindsided him at six with moe they could have forced a tight end and she thinks that her game is so up in flames like she had room to make a move then and even after finding out that the idol thing was manipulation. She's still isn't going to him and he's not even at the final six like if anything that they have to date. And could sean out his name. Because that's how much not on the table Dave's name is it final six which is again like vastly beyond baffling. I just thought with all of this. Did you think that that was the defining factor which trying to analyze this? I I mean he was on the radar the target and then when he had the item and she thought. I really think she was surprised when Nevada. I think it surprised. She thought that he really had shown her. And they're literally was a bond between two of them and he had Shay than anybody else so I mean credited dates Guy Social. These game is there. He's making everyone feel so special that they really think that there's a toddler to between him and ties him and he he's. He's played brilliantly by all being and he sold it to think she. She read abroad that he wasn't invited. Then you know when you sitting in child cancel and it's it's you dow scene and possibly she just couldn't couldn't pull the trigger even if he plays the idol the voting to Shawny Unlike Aka said and ice. You'VE AQABA. Let's say the same as like if you played it on idol goodbye leads and there's nothing. I can do but we can only take the shot now so okay. If he plays the idol and Sean goes home. Then Sean into him anyway you either. Voting or voting day. Boy He plays. Alto and twenty goes but at least she takes Dave Dave Seidel with him. Where is the downside in? This is interesting. She's next. Yeah that's why I'm trying to think like where is Mo? Because if she has moe than she could join with lock my they could even split the voice on David Hyphen. She does have the numbers. But if mo if she thinks is more loyal to Dave and yet she could be next then again should she tariff next like take the shot during the as lose like six win like? That's a that's a better alternative. We we we talked about it a lot. When we spoke about Laurel and goes island he could have taken the shot and yet she might not have got to the end but in our pathogen seem like go to the end and get zero votes and she will leave a little bit more deadlocked than China's here and then she did get zero vote. Ads really being sure solid deny saying Dale David Islands pocket and. I really think that that's what she needs on a resume right. Now that she's by any chance of actually taking Tunheim it impresses the jury and Keeps Aka in Brooklyn Johnny against her Dagoba jury as well because she stocked with them for the vibration. Promise them Taliban already doesn't trust her any way. And I think Dave would be that bitter either going to the jury because even though you know she's winds are that he kinda does appreciate being moves like he said it all. It takes away from her either so she she solidifies a jury by doing it and gives her a chance that if she can make it to follow too she actually has a chance of winning whereas at this point in time even if you make it fun to you have no chance of winning unless you sitting alongside possibly Tarzan. Dave would definitely vote for her. I just think that he would then like they ever played together again. He would. That's I guess is revenge. So he wouldn't like you definitely. Would they need more angry at the contenders considering revenge against navy and Harry and didn't vote for Betaen? I don't know why that would be the case but no I think he would vote for her at the end. We spent a Lotta time now. Just kind of trying to think like what what is going on with this. I just keep picking on my mind. I picture out incline at the final flaw. Say to David right like we have voting you out or I am going at onset myself to the jury like I would rather go to the jury thousand times and sit next to you and get zero voids. Which is what would happen. And I think that that should be mentality exactly that which is like send me to the jury. 'cause I will not go to losing tribal council again you can pay me to losing Donald Trump castle again. Yeah he'd of Lean. I'M GONNA win. I'm not here to for you. See how I'm actually here to win it this time. So it's gotta go hi. This was her to China where she had an opportunity and she said yeah. I think we've praised Dave a lot to do twentieth done this week and like. I think he deserves it. I'm just a couple of things where I'm like. Who WOULD HAVE BEEN? Maybe a little bit better now. Like really peaking at it because he he did great. I think that he shouldn't have told. Schon and ties at like he was like evil genius. Plant Manipulate Sean. Because mode then goes to Sean and obviously tells even though that doesn't even work it could have maybe and I think he gave them a lot of power to go to them and be like I'm going to show Sean like he's like openly discussing with them whether he can test Sean that night which was interesting. 'cause like I think todd goals play your idol and even talk. I've been happy in day to get rid of the IDOL. But SEAN WANTS TO KEEP THE ITEM SO. I think that he may be was a little bit too open with them about his plans to Sean testing her and manipulating her and bring her in. Possibly but I think he's pretty much scientists that wants to fire four shots fisa talking. Well time preparing for that. That they assery at on Outta Gary. Because we were falafel. She's next yeah. It could be such a Genius Plan. My ties most sitting. I being like you should play tonight to test Sean. Which actually made some sense surprise about dies but he was like you do try and strong Schon and you just play your idol. You don't need it again. After this could have a majority which I actually truly believe is true from Tottenham booth perspective like. They aren't coming for days but I see from base to keep his idle because it's hard to trust that. But he's like then you'll know where she stands and that information would be probably maybe was an idol. But that's so telling. I thought that that made some sense for Dave thought. Can I strong on this to keep my idol? And to his credit he did do that. I love the move to shining like that. I just think maybe he gave us confessional. But how you manipulating Sean. Rather than telling that many other people in the game who can use it against you about you manipulation. Yeah Yeah I mean. I think that he'd bring Shannon and did keep loyal and that kind of cements Antanas final three which is obviously what he wants. Yeah but he's misreading because in Mo- tries to break that up by going to Sean. I mean he's difficulty. Complete right rate on ties at Anton will be loyal to Dave way beyond the game. I just wonder I would also think the chance at the bottom of that alliance but I do wonder where it comes down to him. Oh my because my kind of fishing for the information like you have anything else you WANNA talk about like Cuba's questing showing anything else. You want to divulge. Oh talk about so and then she just wanted tonight yeah. She said she won't shine tonight. She kind of was g. knew everything and she was in. Baden really understand. Why reasoning by? It didn't make any sense to me what you wanted to tell her. That you are in charge Yeah I mean I guess he just wants to like during cross Dave as much but they didn't do anything with an inflammation so confusing again. I mean I think she said it was about keeping Sean close. She's kind of proving to China. She's closer today than shines. So yeah yeah if anything. It should've propelled Shawn. Maybe WANNA make a move but it didn't But at the same time maybe it's just enough information to say like still be with us like it's not that much of a betrayal just knowing that like when push comes to shove number one dave and like considering. Sean didn't make them by know if maybe her final plans have been changed based on knowing about this this information. Maybe that could have worked. Maybe it's just the right amount of information that she gave her. But Dave as well and other things it was he took Tarzan and Sean and Mohan reward and left BOC mind. Jackie Becca camp and like yes. He made it work he covered for it. You want immunity. You put the American pressure on but I feel like you have to do so much. Good work to make up for a mistake. Go the same so unlock that. It's like it's just like minor points at this point but like I don't get taking ause. I don't see any reason to take on that reward. Because he's like the perfect person to go babysit them. He's never gonNA flip. You do keep. Your enemies flew with Jackie. You do try to pull her in. I don't know if it would have worked but at least the attempted there whereas there's no read like it should have been go straight up. Jackie Sean. That's so obvious. And then movie Motza third and then that's a group and vodka isolated invaded by todd. Me makes more sense. I agree I've seen on the cash like thinking wise to Anton would be like so. I'm saying a as well. He'd be Milwaukee entitled the girls the girls would be such he's Sky Q. Lack of course you should take the spy. Why did you take this care? So there'd be doing say obviously and he would trust him to to stay with the others. He knows that I wouldn't think that he was going to turn and that. He was the best person to say that they're saying two thousand back in the account. But I don't know why letter maybe you're decided that Jackie was disposable and in your own care about it. It's fine Jackie disposable. I just think like even also keep with you because then you better odds of blindsiding her. I mean their plan was contingent on Jackie voting with them so they could vote around in a four three one. They like came back and they were like. Wow Jackie buckner really wanna work with you. They won't give you a name. It's like what did you bring her in? Like even take around the reward. So you're trying to act like vodka alienating or like you've alienated her. I don't think it would have worked for Jackie but I think that there will be there. You could maybe be blindsiding her more. At least you've kept them apart and it's just like when the alternative is taking ties in which I see no strategic benefit to at all like you might as well. He was lucky to get so many. Got Off the tribe and he really could have made it work. I can't thinking what a stupid move leading. Jackie a cabinet them. Same Day does have again kind of on walking anyway and saying that I mean there is more time ass out of that reward for them to Jackie as well. You know what I mean like. It's not gonNA though right. So that's like a big loss season that overnight reward that Janine went on the Simon and they left what ends up being all the flippers. The elevated Harry Lucan Abbey was the defining moment of the game and like. It's not random that that didn't do Dave like his credit. He's put in an awkward worth that he still has enough loyalty from. His people want immunity like he played the he did great things to win the day. I think he made it a little bit more difficult for himself. Possibly by making like an era for no reason to give him a big task of possibly winning the void. Yeah I may. I've always said this about really lower by a deep thinking. Just does things a little off. The do tend to work out for the thinks things through and they just happened to work out like even the helping back washing idol when she was in Hawaii within because then it goes back in the wrong hands thinking we're going to flash an idol that was in Eurolines. When there's a chance it could in the hands of someone wasn't in your lines things like that. I think sometimes he just does stuff. Sounds time been generally think things through and he's as calculating as some of these moves playa to be. Well he just such a big game player that like everything he has everything he does is just massive like like even aligning with Mat. Rogers like it could have been the reason. He went home preschool. It might have been had. They not swapped but it also is the reason he didn't position now. It's the reason that saved him at the swamp that's very high variance. Even something like this a small thing like on taking them on the reward. Okay that's a small thing. But then he covers for it by winning immunity playing the right idol. Making these amazing moves voting Jackie's or that putting on the pressure. I think that's amazing. So like the way that he he covers for agree. Like something you think. Okay good is a bad is a risky. Like even sloshing Brooke Idol. I also I agree. Why would you put it back out there where other people could find it? But at the same time I've heard maybe she was going to play it on daisy which would have ruined his clan. So it's like everything he does is so massive that the Sunni posse with where your life is going to be very negative all very positive but to his credit he does end up maybe through a little bit of luck but also a lot to his credit he does end up getting a Lord positives out of it by just working that hard I mean. He's the Golden Gari. Taxes does tension to go on one hundred percent show. The everything is calculated psalms just things and in something is just. I just got lucky there. Some in this game there is walking bowl their various and the on fly from that and the and the domino facto the sliding doors from a Yukon always town. What's going to happen from one of those and you get lucky. Sometimes sometimes you sign and a distinct things played really well in today's hand he's made the right moves at the right time. Some have been calculated some heaven and you things worked out some things. I think have been locked but something like this is like. I think I think after credit him. Because yeah taking your three is on reward. Could be something and has been something. That is doing people's games by Dave's relationships and moves and the fact that he can then when an immunity and stuff that is to his credit the dozen wrote his gain. Everything you've put in place and everything that he achieved that that's to his credit but I just think that he gave himself a lot of work to be many. Maybe would have just been a little bit easier to just take Jackie and make it a little bit easier for yourself. But he wanted to hang out with ties at and he was like. I'll just make it work grinded. He got there and you got to hang out with todd so I think it was worth it for him to have that box with John. Just solidifies his alliance even find? It doesn't seem like a smart move. But how oil arms alliance like Sushi at. Tanti him it just another thing. The tying is you know. Ana everything that he does play me from taking now her role of everything but it just older house as well. So maybe that too yeah. Big Journey to you definitely like the also separated. Jackie from Sean and moved told about the plan like they could have been more connection that I was surprised. They drop Jackie as quickly as they did immediately. Vote for her when they were in on the plan. You know I mean. I don't know if he would know that and I don't know if it's intentional. But as a very leafy does separate Jackie from you know it would be under his watchful eye. They went on the reward together but like May. Jessie Coppola Sean. To vote with them they kind of do something the three of them and try and maybe through the middle of the game. I don't know if they would do that anyway but he does separate that. Where Jaffe maybe we could have worked with. Shaun but probably wasn't going to anyway. This is all like small mayes because Dave really does have the game on. Lock even like the little things you like. He's probably going to be fine anyway. But I wanted to talk about well heartbreaking week after a big win last week on Ross was like you know it felt good to get the mobile camp to get that group. Hug and by the end of the week we have lost Ata and Shawnee just broke now and I feel like this is now the end of that tragic plot which is really actually enjoyed investing in through the post merger. Think when I look back on the season that'll be one of the things are members like how much passion is suggestively as a sand have had for rooting for this minority minority that through circumstance also through the connection have not at any point have to turn on each other. They've gone through fighting and fighting. They stuff off. They would be one of the only pure wins on a minority winning void split. They Flip Jackie. They all the behalf to rock like they've had the win and they also had the devastating losses. Win-lose I've enjoyed kind of sitting on that. Titanic pay and kind of watching it all go down because it gave me really something to root for and invest in Ryan I. Yeah all of them. Last night was particularly had to watch I K- going home especially sign that Haydn to twist. We'll talk about twists. Yes okay chance to go back to so hang it Dr Joy to root for like having just you've item also challenges and they. Yeah this this thing end unless brew can continue just to smash these challenges and it's AH sadly say it's Brooklyn's I think that would be a beautiful into the Hawk which you have to win a lot of challenges and I think standing up and voting would be really beautiful to watch but what does does infamy. Is that connection and one of the reasons. I've loved watching this three especially who've been through so maggio exile and this week and everything what I've loved watching that relationship and just like the support that they've had for each other and that even if we're going to win like she's now Lawrence so that is over now and we think if she wins the next immunity she could split in half. Yeah I mean I it depends again on. I think they could just like they could. Just take off the top and then just three together and we have seen Tauzin Mo and Dave say Tauzin said. We'll just work it out at the final challenge so it depends if Moesha then you had to to to. But if Shah's on her own I could see Shabi at the bottom. Yeah I mean if she wins next one would be really interesting to say who they do. End Up turning on and whether does cause to split over whether causes three months plea if she can she can create to sleep and she's the sweet. Obviously Amash Beta scenario. Yeah I mean I love Brook- off the last episode of Brooke firstly so many things. I love all three of them and they brazenness in going to rocks and the fun of they've had with it. I loved the cow. Stuff who voting for more was like a brilliant Alpine group to to be cheering Vaca- and her own spot in the challenge. Way If ak wins especially like maybe if neither of them when she she could thrown onto the buffalo whatever but like it. Okay win she is. He's done that's and for her to be yelling for a while. She's going to be concentrating on our own challenge and according him there and like the the relationship and how she comforted him after via and how they acted offer the challenge like he's demonstrated from self as happy for her and like it made me cry. It made my mom cry. I think it was like one of the most beautiful of humanity and the game that I've seen and that's why I've loved those relationships and that just like true genuine bond for the scrappy underdog team who scrapped longer than they should have. And who did have to contend with turning on a job at before exile came along but he did actually goes through at the very least the whole post merge connected to each other and fighting and sometimes winning and sometimes losing honestly grateful to fan for that experience. Because I love watching that the thing is the old you know the thing is. You've seen shawny cheering on her. Move burned immunity. Then she's got high winds immunity. Your savage going increased you know. We've seen AK celebrating Brooke winning immunities as well kind of wedged into that ends kinda panel will how it gets down and hugs that you've seen the camaraderie between the three of them cheering each other on in the old days immunity challenges and knowing very well that any of them when I'm unity it does increase percentages to this human at the end of the day. I genuinely care about each other and I just shows what kind of people. That's why you know there's a lot by dre and to see some of these this way to them some of the strategy and some people already who enjoy and like that's totally fine and it's all subjective fan experience which is also valid? I'd like you do not see the lines to each other like Daniel. It was largely. Sean was exiled. Who's been there? Usually either an alliance gets down to the wire and then we'll have to ask. Khuda will soon find out or with these these these alliances that ended up getting along like at a point. One of them has to stand up and be like I'm going to you but I'll avenge you you know like it's so rarely. We never see them. Put their name down. I'm struggling to think of another example. Please guys do tweet at me. And I very rarely you guys to give you that information in tweets. But I'm interested to think and maybe I'll think about it after the podcast like who the other alliance that just manage like you're just circumstance. Circumstances never had to ride his name down on like the Camaraderie that that gave us I think was a really interesting very different structure to the post merge. I'm so I've had my if it was a season points haven't really enjoyed the season. I have enjoyed that. I've enjoyed reading on that team. But let's talk about the twist as you said which lose dom I think it was just adds to same plan for the votes already in the site. We know what's going on and conflict. This thing with social media gone on with the editing and and have production and China save plays and so forth and you can't discuss and warranted social media high and then twist for creating so much more high production China say which I just think it was unnecessary because I understand. Why twist was there then. Having the twisted possibly the tweeted this deal with if they couldn't decide unanimously. Did I go to rocks? Is that what was that was was going to be the case show. Yes so if they couldn't decide unanimously between the five of them then they would go to rocks and obviously the majority is very scared of that. Because if the rock she'll just sit there and watch ak make fire which actually would have been pretty funny to watch so I really understand. Why just didn't couldn't agree with any of that? Was the design knocking. It should be made. I think it should be made. I'll tie navy. Then they would they never gonNA let Brooke make the file one hundred. They would pick a rock before they do that. They go to Ross in the lease then she has a chance of getting the rock. I think what we need to kind of see what we can see if the disparity and finally the abilities like I know for fact from season. Three that Sean is via queen theme like she was amazing. If I so you don't want to pick the second. Is that loss you one day to the wrong because as you can do anything? Ties ends the provider until he could make a great fly. So I think those three of so threatening obviously one one fire challenge but she did say that wasn't the only time she picked up a flint. So maybe brooks thinking like it's a it's a gives them a better trough maybe more of a fifty fifty against someone like Mo whereas if a rock it's a it's a plenty of sunshine. She gets a twenty percent chance that Moggi exit fix that so ten percent really bad math on the fly and I don't think this is my domain but that's a thirty percent chance but just maybe making against the bow in a vacuum is a fifty fifty zero entreprise. Could I've never seen Kinda Ramaphosa Using using day in Khandu everything. He's a Golden God. You think he'd go fly. Brennan my share home. He's GonNa get scorch marks but I'm sure it can make a fire on literally. Nothing can. I'm sure they can do anything reasons as to whether he has made far yeah. Obviously I wouldn't want Tarzan or Schon fire. That would probably would ima- might have to that. I didn't really want to go fast. Thinking Ross on it actually put tomorrow question. Maybe we'll maybe yes. Okay this bad math and definitely not right. But if he's definitely GONNA lose to Toscano Sean then peaking Roxbury back because that's a forty percent chance that you out and then maybe like ten hostels fifty fifty against day if we're being generous. Tv AGAINST MO. That's still like sixty percent. Not Great for him and then he'll definitely win against broke. So I think if Moore was seems like a fair fi and did seem like it wasn't like wow most pun intended but like he did a second behind so it did seem like it could have gone that way and it was a pretty good bet but it was just like it was just a hot one begin actually surprisingly with In in in Cham Miles. He's fifty piece of flint to challenge. If they might have been five she's yeah. Yeah so I feeling. Fill EVEN WORSE FOR AKA Liz. In the FI Johnston right. It's like even more heartbreaking you suppose ritual of episodes are non me emotional state for it to watch can face it's fears which was really beautiful and inspiring but then like Brooke stuff and he's like the sweetness of it and well stuff and then like I think a few people have this question and it's another thing I would have the attitude. I am all that awesome today. Why maybe you'll know why this pushing the break the tag it did break the tag. And why did it break the back? She was run. You have fired. You know what he's done that she would be off to don and you break the tag. Because then you'd have the illusion of an idol which might be enough to scare them into splitting. Yes so it made sense like the twist. There was a lot like why did it have to be unanimous like he gave a lot of power to the minority? Clearly in there was like no reason for Brooke. None of them could have been she obviously immune anyway but like none of them could have gone home from. The fire is Nouri Brook to buy. I loved her bowl. And it's in that moment but gave a lot of talented eighteen broke but at the same time I do not feel it was for the benefit of Cain broke. I tweeted saying the Swiss was on to save a this was was made to help Dave and that might be a little simplistic because I bought. I mean is this twist was not to save whoever gets voted out at six. It does help them. But that's not its purpose because that person's probably going out and revolving door when it's not Harry's advantage which will get you to the next stage of emerge in exile. That will expose cracks. I've there's no reason that AK oh Brooke levels immunity which is immediately go home next time so it will help them to a the reason. I think we got this twist used to help. Maybe not specifically but D. Dave character last season. It was luke it's difficult for the Alpha players get to a final two especially in a fifty day game. That's why you donated final three and I truly believe that whether it was on the fly because of the advantage of being played or leading taken out or whether it was always planned this was his here. Try and engineer final. Three and I think that's what we just lost down and I think that it is to help a play date. If not dave himself yet to the end when it can be very tough to a final two zero more Alpha male yeah hundred. San Servando Richly. I came and he will accept anyway. So it would have been busted. Dave Dave now have to to Ronald to. I still think he can do it because he looks so much loyalty. He's through four like he's great but like he's GonNa definitely will. He'd have a better shot at winning. If it's a final three because then you just have to win one immunity oft have ties and work with him at four and hope to make and hope to win a fire challenge. Maybe against him. Oh to get to three and the next two people. He's definitely going to be so. Actually I think that if anyone lost from from using the FI I was dave more than because now he has to get to a final two. Yeah Yeah Yeah to be honest. Think with everything that's going on. In the Way People Ask me on Aka about tweets Dr Mike by Quiet about it can be the question of the season and other thing. I don't have the onset you Jackie but do get the show wanting to make a final three because it we are getting similar types of winners on is that hot take to get to two final two and it does kind of bar out these more alpha play as the production probably thinks is more exciting makes a really tough road for them. I just think this is not the way and unfortunately if it's going to be a final three we're going to need another non elimination per season and we haven't sold what to do eliminations yet. So yeah I think that I get wanting to three. But we need a better solution than to non eliminations. Yeah not only nations season these displaying. So yeah yeah I mean. They've had their hands tied weekly and would they try. Try The advantage with Harry. I think that was a really fun. One much like in the place like AK. Someone would have to volunteer for this challenge and this was obviously a nosy going home but in another world where someone's getting blindsided knows putting hand up because everyone thinks they're fine so they've given a lot of control over the players which is interesting. Yeah a whole Xsara with like Johnny Zaken in nothing happened. Just kind of a little VACA- Oxide Eastern. Besides what happened. Last night. They decided Little Island Holiday Inn like some again started the season. The progress you know. We've got some work to do on. Australian dairy forgetting FI challenge asks against third fire challenge. Why does a live in love fire so much all of the rations? Australia's like just love. Love Manufacturing Phya challenges. And like I think I hear about beans and rice and Jonathan tasted yes. The filing files lost its drama. Especially when it's manufactured we need to come up with a different the like we need to come up with the different. I love it like a Mazda shift. Kind of survivor. Thing is that you are being. We can tell something else will do that instead of fire every time. I mean yeah I liked. It doesn't involve physical. It's not gender. Physical Strength reminded our Daniel Easily House. It's just like it's it's too many late. It's it can be funny but it is by challenge for the full day life that we have watched and now quick break to hear from all sponsors and we are back right. Jackie I want to get too cheesy. After we analyzed the episode this week of episodes so take it away Jacobson Weinstein and MC color one two three point in continuing to what all right so the easy this week. I'm definitely giving three points to David because as I said the way that he was going through is baffling. I have to credit him to American pressure. I think he won that vote. I love the idol ties on and do not count as incorrect pooled. In shine shooter the idol. A couple of very minor misstep so we've spoken about the fact that he's through now to find five with his idol is crazy is genuinely crazy and he's never needed a plane idle himself and he had to idols. And it's the final five. What that is crazy. I'm going to give two points to mow on my life. Her read on shopping well to them which he has been she was right about. Jackie disloyal to them as well. I like to play the undercut. Dave and Yeah. I think she could definitely win against Sean or Tarzan may not definitely against Sean. But she had a good story when she is what. She's thinking of doing that but I also really liked that she she can get any of the blowback knowing about the date hasn't caught onto that and she like acted in that way. I think some issue with her saying that the vote was her doing because I feel like maybe she's like fifth in line that I feel like Shawny Sean. Jackie herself leaving. Mamuka maybe fourth but maybe not taking credit for the move and confessionals but I liked a lot of the stuff she was doing and I'm going to give a point too Brooke who as I've said such bookstand fan now I loved humanity who empathy or compassion. But give the points by. She saved herself with immunity twice and she just kind of represents Baca who I think did make the right decision with rocks and did the best they could and unfortunately with dealing with some difficult stuff with the closeness with majority with Sean flipping on them by giving her a point. Who Do you WanNa give your points to have to go to gain three points? And he does seem to have run any the lions convenience that they got into final to serve this point of the game. He's literally not to play an article for himself. He's got the game like Solo. It's impressive and even small mistakes don't even seem to matter because he's got game. Sala control so data. Entry points today Two points Buki just have. That is our against the wall in this week. Especially every challenge that you are winning. You are and to come through to think this way wasn't immune. Yeah it's tough to win. Any of the survivor isn't the only on always saying that it's not a bad about the game. Five still to come on his wings when you really need them like credit. A challenge wins an had she been fighting for them One hundred just GonNa give to AK especially in Iraq situation and understanding standing. Dave did change the odds for them and turning on Jackie what they really need to and keeping them all safe and getting back to camp with those silly tax. I think he does kind of you know he. He is controlling those three and listen digging in one of his boss is what they they attention to. So I'm going to block Dad Cray. I love the memorial. Should be point and I've loved. I wish we could have seen more of AIDS game. Know we've talked. Rows majority counted to the minority split. That he innovated. He's just doing stuff that I think is really hard to show in primetime and has made a lot of people in the game. Maybe some of the more casual view is I joined it and I think that's pretty clear curve inside that I take. Yeah it could. Like objectively can analyze. Dave playing the best but we definitely be have favorites can rule. That's what makes it fun. And that's what makes us fans and ostrich-like robots analyzing this and like Zeros and ones but Davis Duck definitely GonNa win the cheesy at this point. I don't know the exact numbers in front of me. I should definitely supposed to reach which I haven't been doing. But like he is well ahead of everyone and light if he doesn't win the game itself like he's got the consolation us. I mean like losing that UV. The Consolation Prize of that is winning the game. It's not the other way around the the things I have that on pretty good authority. I'm pretty sure. And even though I haven't mailed out. Lafayette prizes yet. I'm definitely GONNA do. It's like it's the honor that's important we Hasson GOP tweets. But before we do this is so random and I didn't know what to put it. I'd just have to talk about it because it will give joy so they do these videos on ten play which is like before and after the game like them right after leaving voted out and the day before they went into the game and like compare compare questions so usually like multiple Monday content on ten play. Pretty Standard Willing Justice. I just sound so funny. I don't know if anyone else who finds his anyone watched it. They were like. What are you gonNa miss and people usually like family? She decided family which was also like my F- rile like okay. Google fry was and it was like a cooking. Jackie says they see team. Yeah so she said that she was gonna Miss Freia and then like they usually ask like what. What did you actually miss after the game and usually people like food and Jackie was like your my toothbrush and my Afra and I was like. Oh my gosh. He'd really stuck with this thing. And then in the last movement of the video they're like they asked about a game and she is happy that Mat Rogers played an idol. And her and she's like yeah. I told him going to send him in Africa. And I'm like what is new. Is Jockey some sort of like multi level marketing scheme which he's trying to sell US Air Friars like. How has been such a big part of this video? I don't even know what an F. riders and I gave me more than anything this week. Have to get one salaciously online and then having putting it anyway to get anyway lookie soon now you want to buy it. I'm just wondering like is Jackie issue on some sort of marketing team. Because is that why she looks? So if you confessionals early in the game with all our confessionals fryer related is insane to me that in this one minute video about Jackie's journey. She mentioned three times like I don't know if anyone else is going to take this very recipes with information if the video. Go Wash Jackie you before. And after because it's largely about is how do you get a body Jackie's if you use their little yeah? I think she'd saved us the secret to her success. Does she like houses? It's just funny. Because he's played in the game for seven weeks. So that's why it's usually so different when they say like you know what did what are you gonNA miss. What did you miss? People like get very different answers because they've just had this like once in a lifetime. Experience between those two confessionals and Jackie was insistent on the Afra owned by. The people. Love this as much as I did because I I watched it like. I don't believe it's essential. Viewing it is essential sexual. Viewing I don't know I wanted to bring it to be able to engine. I don't know if this Saranda Mu get into the GOP tweets like alive. Because Jackie didn't get much of the staff but then kind of brought me in the end she kind of came across predecessors on slack wish Swiss Mrs Cheap Bane the whole time. He'd been promoting as I wanted the same thing I was like. Did she. Just get this attitude or lately now just showing this attitude like how did she get all of the SAS in like the last two episodes were more than all the other episodes combined breast? I mean it could definitely have been the edit who've been both could you know she? She definitely probably got a bit of life. Pepino step from taking out Zack. So like probably boys but yeah. You should worry villa to if anyone hasn't done that because five Zack. And it's like very are really interesting. Yeah they're like he's like not letting up on me about they're still any loss really finish. We love the tea. We absolutely love the tea. I always still the day off the West. This is this is. Why keep getting invited back? Jackie we love that. Anyone guests like a segment on their jury. Villa Shawnee wash the hair and like people do some stuff. Jackie segment was like making Lezak. So that was a lie and not actually made up. Then what are we even doing well? According to that in love and love the this has been a very very productive and segment of this all right so as a GOP tweet. He tweeted just sean is so sketchy. Does that count? While we're three nine. Just letting you guys know might just put it out there by wow. Sharon's not sketchy acid at all. She's like yes she gets you though. I think she's she's not at all. Yeah well that's the whole point. Nail Sean Down like issues. Like she's not an auto villain hero like her character is almost the most difficult character to define of any survivor. counteract robin any. Little thing is too. I think this is the one kind sleeping is south of people. Possibly will jail was having none of it. He also had a loaded tweets about a lot of tweets Greek. Every time Dave says all stars and was complaining that like the Basel Close Now we're kind of need a drink everytime GOP tweets about Dave talking about how it all started because that's how much she's tweeting about it Speaking of GOP by the way you. I Dunno if everyone is has heard this but he will not be able to attend the reunion on. This has been pretty big news this week that he couldn't get in from America before the isolation soon enough now he is going to be all shaw. Everyone was talking tribal slashes. Vote about after because we explained early home the board gossipy weeks ago with the bachelor the Bachelor Lucky Connection Offers GonNa like compare the stuff from the reunion and JP will be via satellite. So that is where we're at in March twenty twenty. That's like that he's not going to be obviously Fulla jail. Came back to Grad. That can be. I feel like what happened. James Madison on controlling trial. He could have had a run at it but the Bachelorette survivor stuff. Is Now fuse together. Much at this point that they were going to definitely go to Austin next but yeah J. new. Gop like this is just what about like you. He was carrying three like conned in half ages key losses. They will read the voice. Like it's all she can read it is. Gop GonNa read a via satellite. Likes I'm so confused but how this is GonNa work but we'll just got to roll with it because he's a crazy times are you going on. No because there's no audience violence ally me reading it. Yes down rain. Delay is at night from Sarah's intriguing. The gallon inside. You could do that. I was saying to James shows that we were like if feels like if all she couldn't have got in like at what point life James might have to call up and if James up like maybe liquid about the call up and I was like how many people would have had to pull out the Megan Gig with eighty like. Is it like every person who's ever played the game? Could we've made this work? That the travel restrictions autry if anyone outside of my own home that would have been good but yeah. I've only we could have just like gone down the line to like being like hundreds in line than I than I could have come out and I disagree. I think officers grab because obviously he's used stink things that would be good to have like a mock survive. X. Now they can just thinking like the world is crazy right now. We are containing things. We never never could have predicted a week ago. But the last predicted would be me. Who's the celebrity union because people have been logged out? I would have been like. What am I doing here? What is happening but no the reunion? Actually it's going to look very different to what we would've expected which is really sad because it was going to have an audience. Obviously jokes he was going to be there. I'm not sure all the contestants are even going to be able to get this so whatever happens. I'm probably better for spoiler because it's not live so it's probably in that there's going to be no unbearable cost but yeah just be prepared guys. Who had it happens? It's not going to be how we thought it was gonNA look think we should be science on stage on his capacity. Get in the room anymore. Also going down like very shootings. We do not have time for the position but we have the The is not attending his. Yes I'm not sure exactly. Who but I have a full house so yeah a little hug when the winner wins like you probably shouldn't. It's just a lot. I don't think there's any family there as well so I don't know if that's true. The finalists spot. Yeah everyone's been getting kicked out which is totally understandable. He's going to be very weird. It is gonNA be really strange. One people ride in with how many people you think I would have needed to get walked out of the finale to get in line. There's a TV show ride about like someone who becomes president because as in line and he's like the home affairs office or something like that Karma what it's called but that would have been like me getting a call up those three we could passive. Shouldn't ever as you are. Just shows a daunting everyone knows why am based on a lot of the comments of like through the F? Is this person that I get media so thank you generally saying that? Thank you that people would comment that two hours into the classroom. Probably do you know who I am? And if you're not you're probably commenting through the. I'd go a yes the people who are this fire to the podcast de words people. Yes okay I don't know if I have anymore some inappropriate. Gop tweets once. That boggles down. It's hard to get it up again. Just sayin throw that in there wouldn't be podcast without doing jail inappropriate feet of the week but we have many questions. Jackie we've had many questions over podcast. We also did questions. Hopefully that we can offer from our listeners. Rich batch after when was the last merged with no idols or in finance? If found so this is something. That is very indicative of the screening survivor. I think like season three had played and then if you found season for fewer play very early merge and then sound with the idol and Luke found the advantage by season two as well think about season one but like they don't tend to Haifa Rehire idols. Very late in the game liked Dave. Playing his at final seven would would not. I don't think Krieger another hidden whereas survivor. I think it would. I think the day especially this year is another idol in the game. I don't think they tend to really relied things. So I'm not so surprised that with Dave holding onto the idols and with the way a transplant goes. I'm not surprised that they haven't been any found for a while now. And even when he played and then Brooklyn Woking was thinking did it. Do you really think there's GonNa be another one place the slaying. The Guy was what I was thinking. I'm having loss I can go to a found it on whether they really gonNA put labs leading the US. That'd be one day and it would be found but I would. I would know that they're hiding it. That light and I think like as much as a doomed people. I was rooting for like. I don't think that they should be re hiding an idol. When it's late at seven when this Suwon in the game there's no need for that survivor. She take more from that and make them more spots through the post merge and kind of have a limit to be hiding them if played at six seven possibly even in a at that point kind of left the game. Play out yeah. Barbecue is Watson some playing the Middle Games work really well for people like Sarah While not so wealthy people like Sean Morris. I think the middle actually does were people shine if you Naga alienate people while you're doing it and I think that she might the middle pretty well on season three and she kind of garages kind of ten. Vida that whole loyalty thing. That was that one and pretty much. Brian Distinct on taking it to just. Just how many people you derailing been from little you know like if you can tie the meal there. You can't be super close to the people the from the middle to get what I'm saying once she you've you've make a close connection oil then when you last when Congress contact by Yeah Really Approach. Well you can be a swing. Vote and promises. You decided well here. I am swing broke. You can be a middle personal. Dining people are resenting when you die whenever the next time. Is You just pretty much? Put it out there that you wear. Is that when you you kind of looking people in the face killing I promise you one hundred percent with you and I will be with you. I promise you like and you're looking face doing that. And that's what causes issues. They've this stuff around this in terms of like demographic really does a very strategic guy. Doesn't you probably get just the game occupy Dave does it? They just think like oh. Dave Classic Big Player. Dave and there has been in the past. You know some stuff with like older women are like the Montage. Siga that people don't like when they betrayed them. Because you're meant to be the momument more nurturing he it's definitely gone against someone like a don in the past And might be that here in terms of like Sean does come across as genuine and not real and not so much like the strategic game. Playoff that you take it personally and that might come down to like your personality type by demographic so. I think that that's not divorced from this but I also think some of it is hurtful. Because if you'RE GOING TO SAY ICON. I move to you otherwise doing put me in the end and then you vote with them like well. Then you've laid it out there and she's sitting there at the final seven volumes. Eight Herat Tribal Council. Are we still good? And she's like yeah you know like she looks people in the face she's like Cazar classic line of like. Oh God you like. I'm going with you and that's on her as well but it also is probably a tricky a battle when you do have an archetype that people expect to be more mature and more nurturing and like as if gold one who got me. Yeah Yeah Yeah. Definitely at the students coming to pice in is while it does depend on the closest to that you are forming baseball's from a middle as well Thomas Lincoln Ostra. Jaffe have used the information that she told Sean beforehand that she was GonNa flip to fracture the alliance more. She was clearly out to wine so mistrust. Tell Dave and ties and trying to take off her. Maybe even make yourself look better. They asked me. She should've devoured emphasize that with the actual Christmas about this. And I think it will. I think it's actually a really good question that I wish I would have asked Jackie about in the exit because when they're asking is like so that storyline went nowhere. Like this is just acted like Dave never found out on it like Jesse Telmo in Shaw and they do have blood on their hands to say. Didn't vote for him. So when Jackie's in trouble when her name is out there and she's clearly with Obama. Can you go to Dave at that point and say just so you know like I told Mow and John Voting Kazak and they wanted to weaken you or they didn't like they didn't want that blood on their hands whether he believes hers another story whether she thinks the situation is dire enough that it warrants out? I mean she does think best case scenario. Is it tie so like? I don't know where she really getting voted out. Or She's picking a rock. It's not that great. Maybe she should have thrown moonshot under the bus and maybe she did try to win. We didn't see it and just been like you guys on his height as you think but maybe come with us and we'll take out John. Yeah I mean I think she definitely could a friend of mine. Who's a bus point eight? Even if she treat him under the bus when she thought she was going down child was well when China convenience ten on Hers Mile Down. Probably GonNA downs me anyway. Because the whole point was that Sean couldn't flip on Mojo at the unanimous vote because ties ends immunity. Picking off days. Picking a rock. There's no reason for them to ever flip on. Whoa Dave and ties and being immovable is what makes it really tricky. So it probably wouldn't have worked with. Maybe Jackie who have been like we all are. We can kind of raised I. There's no way that's going to work. But you would think that they would be more. Desperation I did is Jackie like where you can painting more than we thought the trump castle. She kind of indicated that she wasn't aware how much he was going to be. Allowed to talk wasn't aware that they were just going to go before he had a chance to make a pitch so just confused by the structure of it. But yeah you would think that if that point when she's on the chopping block maybe throw out everything including the fact that like you have this dirt on them. Yeah I mean I think especially when things happen. Charbagh cancelled in showing. He don't think I asked when the disappointing this things that happen was just really do need to say it did seem like he just sat there and just exactly which surprised me. I think she didn't go to Dave and saying to him. I think she thought she traveling with Melenchon at any point as well. Yeah I mean she. She didn't think she was getting casinos. At best case scenario. Tie like you'd think it would be more of a desperate situation. I don't know if that would fractured them. But a date has been so vengeful. That if he believes a explained and especially. Because you know he's always been a little bit distrustful of shines while black thinking believer ever. She's this year told them the numbers of slow tie. Then that lies. They're probably going to have to stay together for just like risky minority to this new four of Jackie by I feel like motive in done and maybe it was. We didn't see it many road ask. What would you prefer these? Non Elimination to is what age of extinction at least thinking objectively fit and giving all eliminated players up to the final chance rancho rather than random time to save so then people and ruining a travel counsel has never edges. Yeah so I think the only nation but I just think they need to be Honolulu that they need to be more Florida Not just sending someone to Exxon than just having them come back and then telling them which tribe they going to just looks too scripted to me and causes distress with the viewers as well Shied on the entire integrity of the Shire. We should The dairies On then just needs to be more. I agree no edge of extinction because that changes the fabric of Tie Game Way. Every word out lacks meaning. I mean you could definitely not much. I still would say no because again change of the fabric of watching just nominations would be my IRA. We've kind of come down on like maybe they should be doing during removal. I didn't hate Harry's advantage. There seems to be done. It's hot but it can be a little bit off and doesn't need to be extinction which I really think is the worst of the worst economy. Wasn't that Khan cannot be and just less controlled by the yeah. It needs to be more in the pies hands. Harry I think it makes the show more again just keeps the integrity of the Shard intact. Yeah I mean I love seeing what the producers are thinking when they do twists ankle. Did the files like all. I wanted to be three okay. Like I know what you're thinking. Production it should be more. Ceo Process all right. That's all the questions that I have. What IS THE HASHTAG. I have HASHTAG air. Friday confessional hosted goes assessed for this. Am I going to anyone in the world? Who was talking about this but it may be loft so we need to look at the time we go to go to buy wine glass without an anthrax this video. He's like just like the messenger wine. Just ask her why she loves. Air Freia Suma and did she know that so? This is interesting. This is getting the team to the flavor of the trial. I Love Jackie. Where can people find you all of this online tea and your possible airframe reviews coming soon? I'm just Jackie Graze and on Jetstar Glazer. I'm excited for the reviews. We gotta get some not be buying a fryer. Is that really? And if I give you Jackie's wife offer that's what they promise you. This is a big the no one else. Who'S GONNA I? I loved it. Maybe I'm a little bit delirious based on everything that's going on in the world but I was like this is joyful Follow me for all of these. All these takes in war at Shannon Gates instagram and on twitter subscribe to the international survivor. Half of SPIEL. You get all of my content who you guys have been enjoying it. Then it's hoping the social distancing to a degree so much content will be on that feed if you subscribe survive global this week with Machaca from South Africa is going to happen. We just missed a recording of of survivor winner. That was hopefully all my favorite song. Okay otherwise it'll be a sad podcast. Sit into music going to be out soon when knock anyone with a k? Because I think he's doing official exit press but we will him more length after the season. So it's okay so sean Jackie I will put that together and that will be out. I guess around the same time this podcast in the end next week greatly on a bars will join me to episode to episode week. And on the finale the week after so that'll be great love shutting Liana and talking tribal that everyone's chasing that out. We gotTA shorthand on again. This week we had a very heated debate about Ehud. Everyone is watching that. And subscribing to that point copied as well And Yeah thank you to everyone who is supporting Clinton Jackie. It was so great to get you on the podcast again to get your take on these players. You have that you've played with that you've watched the U. Connections to and get all your strategic insight as well. Thanks so much for having me and I just wanted to give a shout especially when the world is going crazy. Now is the time to be kind. Not Nasty he'd be a tweets kind about these discriminate on screens for entertainment. Nasi guys to attack on social media so keep it nice guys. Yes such a brilliant. Psa on it takes a little out of me not to respond to some of the vitriol at the end. I also like them especially really. Don't ask them about how much you hate them. I don't care I don't want to see it so be kind. And if you can't be kind leave me out of it would be my suggestion and my us. I don't know if this is. This is probably more for like for the rest of the twin up. But it's always a good message especially in these times. The Jackie. Thank you so much again. Thanks behind the scenes. Thanks he all you guys for listening and we will see you next week. Australian Super Larry Australia one billion pounds. This is rob sister. Nina thanking you for listening to this episode of our reality. 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