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NCAA Corruption Trial

Outside the Lines

00:00 sec | 2 years ago

NCAA Corruption Trial

"Stunning accusations. John Miller Miller was paying the Andrei Eytan ten thousand dollars a month, overwhelming and obvious evidence. You haven't done anything yet. There are multiple coaches who have issues in their pets on just AFC analogy of Arizona. What more do you need? Swing. Swing amiss. Big-league impacts helping improve the lives of people that kind of stuff is important kind of stuff hunting. What you see change your perception of abbey sporting events. Get this. This is outside the lines Ryan Smith here three-time all-star World Series champ. Anna Wainwright on a mission. That's bigger than baseball. That's coming up. But first our big story today a bombshell in college basketball recruiting trout going on as we speak in New York. It's been like peeling the layers of an onion. With each successive layer, smelling even worse ever since the FBI. And federal prosecutors announced the arrests of several figures in college basketball, including assistant coaches and shoe company executives for their alleged roles in steering kids to schools in management agencies in two thousand seventeen implicating several big-name programs in the process coach Rick Pitino of lost their job. And then three of those figures have been sentenced to prison time for their roles and yesterday more damning evidence revealed federal prosecutors played to a jury a recording of a phone call obtained by wiretap where former Arizona assistant Emanuel book Richardson told an aspiring agent Christian doctrines that wow. Cats coach Shawn Miller was paying star center. The Andrea eight and ten thousand dollars per month while he was enrolled there. You know, what he bought per month Richardson said on the tapes allegedly referring to Miller what he do Dhaka's. I told you ten Richardson replied, allegedly referring to paying eight he's putting up some real money for them blank talking sit. Now, Arizona has since released a statement saying it takes the information presented in court today. Very seriously, adding it remains committed to the highest standards of integrity and ethical conduct which includes competing within the rules of the NCAA and Pac twelve conference. They added we will continue to cooperate fully with the NCAA and with other ongoing investigations. Okay. So let's talk more about this with ESPN's college basketball insider, Jeff bordello? He's been on this case since the beginning. Jeff, what more did Christian is one of the defendants in this case. What more did he have to say? Well, he constantly said that he did not give money to coaches. He said that he did not think that that was a smart business plan on how to build his agency or built his aspiring agency with his business partner, which turned out to be an undercover FBI agent. He said that in one circumstance, which I found sort of amusing he and Creighton assistant coach pressing Murphy stock and said that he and Creighton coach Preston Murphy, invented a player to go into a meeting and try to procure money from an undercover FBI agent. They ended up getting six thousand dollars in Dawkins alleges that Murphy gave that money right back to Docklands who put it into the Bank accounts for his aspiring agency. So throughout Wednesday's testimony. He continued to say that he did not give money to to college basketball system coaches. He did not think it made sense in order to build his agency. So to me that was sort of the most interesting thing is that he continued to deny giving money to assistant coach. Okay. So he's saying that he wasn't giving that money. But it seems like there was a lot of talk about amounts big amounts that were paid to a lot of different people trying to get players to play for their programs. Yeah. Arizona. Former Arizona assistant coach book Richardson throughout this week. He's been caught on wiretaps mentioning different amounts of money. He he alleges that LSU coach will Wade said to him I have three hundred thousand dollars for nausea read. They mentioned yesterday on a wiretap that bowl bowl who attended Oregon and only played about half the season would cost two hundred thousand dollars. So they've been throwing around around a lot of money big figures for for some players. Most guys are in the fifteen thousand a twenty thousand dollar range summer, you know, two thousand dollars five thousand dollars per month to family members, two brothers to handlers things like that. But there are big numbers being thrown around for some players so much of this being laid bare in this trial as we've seen before. So what happens next in this trial? Well, it seems like it's coming to a close Christian Dawkins is expected to finish up his direct examination and cross examination today, and then Merle code the co defendant. It does not sound like they're going to call any witnesses. And if they do that'll happen probably tomorrow. And then it looks like we're they're going to go into closing arguments. So this trial could and if not tomorrow probably on Monday, okay? And Jeff we'll keep an eye on this. And we thank you for doing the same. Jeff bordello? Thank you. And we're joined now by Paul finebaum hosting Paul finebaum show, Paul. When you hear the allegations. You look at Arizona response. You hear what Jeff talked about what the other players and the money that was being talked about there. What does this say about not only Arizona and LSU, but also about college basketball? Right. And it says it college basketball has become a sewer, and there is simply no cleaning it up and headed not been for this case in the previous case, we probably wouldn't have known about any of this because it's clear to me. I think anyone who is being reasonable about this at the NC double A just doesn't give a rip the NC. Double A does not have an enforcement department or division that is capable of looking into this type of stuff. So instead, they crane their neck looking the other way and all this malfeasance goes on and we all act shocked. I mean, I I literally fell out of my chairman ago Ryan when you read the statement from the university of Arizona, I mean, I don't think any of this is a surprise to them. This has been going on for a couple of years, but they keep hanging with there, man. Shawn Miller because he's capable of getting them to the promised land. And that's really all that matters. Now in college basketball. It's getting to the final four having the experience of Virginia and Auburn and everyone else. There had and and and and Texas Tech as well and trying to win the title because it's pretty obvious. And no one in this sport really gives two hoots about playing by the rules or following the letter of the law, but as information continues to come out, don't you think Arizona has to say, look, we got to take a closer look at Shawn Miller because of the blowback that could come on us. Well, listen, I I mean, I'm I'm in a state of shock that he still has a job. But instead of of rectifying, the situation Arizona's is simply waiting for another skeleton or body to fall out of the closet, and and and and I think that's emblematic of what everyone's doing right now. Ryan, I mean, I I deal with LSU fans a lot on our program. And and they don't believe any of this because they love will wait Arizona fans. Love Shawn Miller and administrators just don't wanna make these these decisions. They're they're they're they're sticking to the letter of these contracts, and until they absolutely have. To pull the trigger. They will not see I find that. So interesting, and I we know fans are very much in favor of their teams. It's not a surprise that fans want to support Miller want to support Wade. But I just wonder if there is a sense from the program about what this could mean long term in terms of the image of the program, and what they are trying to project the as far as the image. I I don't think fans care about that one bit. And and what what fan say Ryan is pay everyone's cheating. It's a it's Amateur Athletics. And listen, that's an that's an argument that I get and we can have and we have had that that they should be paying the player should be paid. And and and I think that there there we are. We are so desensitized to any of these allegations that fan simply are are not shocked. They're not really bothered, and what's amazing is that not only are the fans not embarrassed. Neither are the administrators and don't even start with NCWA officials because I mean, you know, they meet. Formed a blue ribbon commission when this story. First broke two years ago has anything changed as anything happened in college athletics. Other than the stink getting worse and the cesspool getting deeper, so when you look at this ninety foot, you know, you stand away from it. And you see what's happening here. You make the good point. Who cares? Does anybody care about this? What argument do you make to those fans as to why they should care? Well, I would I would make an argument that that universities are built on many different building blocks. But the most important thing is school can have is integrity, and to me as long as as long as Shawn Miller is in Arizona that school has no integrity, and you can start to make a similar case at LSU. So if you're an administrator or athletic director LSU just got a new one he's making close to a million and a half dollars a year. But you know, he says he told me the other day that, you know, we'll wait is our coach until he's not well in other words, he is our coach until somebody shows evidence. I in is in black and white right there for the world to see that that he was giving someone money apparently an FBI wiretap is simply not enough anymore. It is stunning that you even mentioned that in. It's got to this point. You wonder what will make things change in college basketball, Paul? Thank you. My pleasure. Thank you, the one hundred and forty fifth running of the Kentucky Derby is just two days away. Now set to run without the favourite and a surprise development Omaha beach was scratched from the race on Wednesday due to a condition that causes difficulty. Breathing force will have surgery in the next few days, which will sideline him for two to three weeks, Omaha beaches jockey, Mike Smith who wrote justified victory at last year's derby and route to the triple crown chose Omaha beach over derby, competitor roadster and now he's a man without a horse in this race. But he said he'll be quote. Glorified cheerleader rooting for roadsters connections big time, and he's happy in the news about Omaha beach. And that his injury is not life threatening. The no doubt they'll be watching horse racing. Premier day over there and San Louis Ray training center this weekend. We're four derby winners have trained and on December seven two thousand seventeen tragedy. Struck on that day, the lilac fire swept through San Diego County burning more than four thousand acres in the path of its destruction was the thoroughbred training facility home to hundreds of horses and dozens of trainers. Joe Herrick was one of those trainers while trying desperately to save his horses. He barely escaped with his life. He recounts the harrowing moments in this preview story which runs on east sixty this Sunday, we want to get back out to our ten news. Breaking news tracker, cloud that smell really just building up the atmosphere properties down here with animals with horses. And I'm sure people are just beginning to hear about this. Still miles away. All these embers were landing here and there, and we were running up and putting those out. Hazy, and then we turn around and it's already starting to hit the Mearns. When everybody saw that we realized it was we're in big trouble. There were two hundred horses in their stalls. The only way to save them was to turn them loose NATO. Joe move quickly to free lovely finish. He's just I gotta get the spill out. Does I'm going out the stall you get a hold of her, right? As we turn to go out. This big fireball comes over the wall and hits us. And I just went like this and grabbed onto her held on real tight, and she launched his right out of the stall. When I got out into the open. She just launched herself again and took off. You know, I looked around and I'm like smoldering. They turned around to go back in. In you know, there was no backing away. Can that story lovely finish airing e sixty nine AM this Sunday? Well, coming up he's a World Series champ. He's a three time all all-star, but some of Adam Wainwright's best work happens away from the ballpark joins us live next. And now I thought from Geico motorcycle it took fifteen minutes to click on the banner ad entitled, you won't believe what these child stars look like now be dissatisfied and kind of said about how the child stars look. And now your computer is plagued by incessant pop up ads on this can't be to add insult to injury. You could've used those fifteen. Click made minutes to switch your motorcycle insurance to gyco. Geigo fifteen minutes could save you fifteen percent or more on motorcycle insurance. Here's more stuff that matters Celtics general manager, Danny aines, suffered a mild heart attack on Tuesday night in Milwaukee. At according to a statement from the Celtics released today. This is the second cardiac event for eight who suffered his first heart attack in two thousand nine he's expected to make a full recovery. Led by stars. Hilary night and KENDALL Coyne show field more than two hundred of the world's world's top women hockey players announced today that they will not play the coming season in North America. The announcement comes one day after the Canadian women's Hockey League shut down after a twelve year run leaving the low-salaried N W H L is the only women's pro league in North America. The hope is that not creating a void. The NHL will form a women's league much like the NBA did with the WNBA at ignoring the advice of the court of arbitration for sport. The I AA f president Sebastian Coe said earlier today that the new guidelines for testosterone levels would be immediately instituted for the fifteen hundred meter and the one mile races in the ruling. Yes. Today, the asked the I AA after delay the rules in those events due to lack of evidence. Two time Olympic champion caster Semenya had challenged the wwltv's rules, but her appeal was denied. Purple got it. Brock him out. It's hard for me to lay my head down at night. And know that she's drinking water the color chocolate milk and not doing anything about that. Kind of stuff is important. Kind of stuff means a ton to me. In today's b-block, Adam Wainwright's mission short, you may know him for series clinching saves and the and the World Series in two thousand six or maybe it's twenty win seasons. Multiple Gold Gloves, silver slugger award. Not to mention finishing top three inside young balloting four times, but perhaps Wainwright's greatest work comes off the field. The fourteen year major leaguer has traveled the world supporting and raising money for numerous charities, including operation food, search and water missions international, helping communities in need. And now he's advising other players on how to realize their passions for helping others, his nonprofit big-league impact raising more than three million dollars to fund dozens of player led campaigns, and he's just getting started. So let's welcome amid Adam Wainwright with us. Now. Adam people don't realize how big of a fantasy football fan you are. But as I understand it. That's really how you got involved in helping others and doing all this charity work. Thanks for having me on. Yeah. So I think just about everybody in the country plays fantasy football nowadays. But it's a good. It's a good fun time. Everybody's doing it anyways. And I had run a golf tournament fill the previous eight seasons. NFL like everyone's doing a golf tournament. I wanted to do something different. And so we got into the fantasy football was standing in the outfield. One day was skipped Schumacher. And and a couple other guys. I said man, you know, why don't we do a fantasy football fundraiser? And they said what would that look like, and we so we sat out in the outfield and talked about it for a while. But you know, it was just a jumping off point for doing something fun for fans doing something fun for. For our players something that was unique and different. And it was a good experience and something we were going to do anyway. So you might as well raise money doing it. But it's led to so much more and can be more proud of where we've come from that start in two thousand thirteen and you talking about the so much more. Now, you're vising other players on how to get there charity organizations of things they wanna do started. How do you help them get from idea to reality? Yeah. So charity is something that is very important to me. It's something that I think about constantly just about every single day. I was in a great mood at the at the field the other day and miles. Michael's looked at me and said. You're really fired up today. What did you do? I said went out and serve this morning. He said charity work fires. You up doesn't. And I said, you know, what it really goes. And so I just know with our platforms that we've been given a major league baseball. It would be a shame to get done with your career and look back and go man, I wish I would have done this. I wish I would have done this what whatnot. So a few years back, my wife, and I were looking for what was it that was going to be important to us? What was the charity initiative that really when we laid our head down at night really had us thinking had as motivated and had us excited. And what we came to is the basic essential needs food water and shelter. Now. I know that there's players around this entire league and people everywhere that they're looking for that charity initiative, and maybe they just don't know how to get started. So what we want to do it big-league impact? One of our biggest missions now is empowering other players to go out into their communities and into the world. And do what they feel like means something to them something that hits home something that special to them something that's important and. What we try to do is as a staff we look forward and say, hey, what is it that you wanna do? Okay. It's Ronald McDonald house, or it's cancer research, or it's or it's basic essential needs or whatever it is. And and if they don't have anything we have a template that they can follow. Yeah. We're going to food here. We're going to do water here. We're gonna do shelter here. We're gonna do medicine here. And maybe it's in the dominican-haiti. Maybe it's in Saint Louis. Maybe it's in the city there is. But maybe if they have something like, you know, what I always wanted to serve in this way. Then we'll reach out. We'll contact those people. We'll get the the people together that need to happen. We'll help put on the event, and it's all what it's all about is getting that player to realize their platform to go out and do incredible things that they feel like they want to do anyways in their communities. Well, I'll tell you what you certainly are doing incredible things just in doing that in your other work. Thank you so much for joining us. And by the way, congratulations on the adoption of your son Caleb. Good for you and your family. Thank you. Sure. Thing. My friend. Thank you very much. Thank you. Well, some Knicks fans have tried to run James Dolan out of town for years. So who's suing him for not being around. All right. Sportscenter at six from Philadelphia was sage in Kevin gonna look at which player is under more pressure tonight in game three or Joel plus woes with the latest on the Laker search for a head coach and can to improve his draft stock this fall sportscenter after PTI on ESPN and the app and then game three between the raptors and Sixers with the series tied one apiece. Eightieths turn on ESPN ESPN deport does end the app. NBA countdown gets kicked off at seventy. For years fans have griped about owner James Dolan, whether it's tossing legends like Charles, Oakley or threatening to ban a fan for life for heckling him in a game in March, Madison Square Garden CEO and Knicks owner has redefined the phrase persona non grata at the world's most famous arena. So isn't it ironic that he's now being sued for being away too much? That's right. According to multiple reports Dolan is being sued by Knicks shareholders for wait for it. Spending too much time on the road with his band shareholders singing, the blues like well Dolan because they claim he's been paid seventy five point six million dollars over the last three fiscal years. Now, an average similarly situated CEO they say only average seventeen million during that period with the next closest peer to Dolan making over forty three million less than the juke joint playing crooner. So whereas he been cutting records and singing songs, they say say, he's just a part timer at MSG. They say because the band JD and the straight shot of his it's always road tripping fifty shows in six countries in forty one cities in two thousand seventeen alone not to mention cutting their six album that year with seventh on the way now and the the Dolan family, not taking this sitting down MSG saying that the claims are quote, nothing more than corporate harassment and the family adding that the firm's filing suit quote represent the worst in our legal system, basically saying that they're trolling and adding of a similar suit and don't get they'll in two thousand fifteen they lost, and they will lose again, we will never settle or give into this corporate extortion. But what if he did settle and let bygones be bygones, see it? Now. Knicks fans MSG corporate boardroom famously defensive owner turning the other cheek right? I'm coming back. I'll go to every game. I'll be involved in every decision. There's nobody better to recruit the likes of Kadian kyri. 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Dan Patrick Show - Hour 1 - Seth Davis (05-03-19)

The Dan Patrick Show

00:00 sec | 2 years ago

Dan Patrick Show - Hour 1 - Seth Davis (05-03-19)

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Patrick broadcasting from the Mercedes men K jolly. That's true. This is Dan Patrick welcome to the program. It's a Friday. And that means it's a meet Friday traeger meet Friday around these parts before we set sail on this three hour cruise want to put a bow on yesterday's show. And a couple of things came out. Obviously got a little heavy in the second hour of the program. And I was asked yesterday why I decided to reveal my health condition or what I've gone through the last almost seven years, and it was two fold. I wanted to let you know. I was having issues with my memory case in point even yesterday before the show, I couldn't remember Michigan state basketball coach and the danettes or look at me like Tom Izzo. I couldn't remember his name couple of weeks ago. I couldn't remember Albert pulses name. I've had these memory lapses. It's called brain fog or chemo fog with the condition that I have right now and auto immune disease and being treated with what is called light chemo. And I just wanted to let you in on it that I'm. I've struggled with it. I think my delivery is a little choppy of had hard time focusing. I haven't read a book and a couple of years in the reason being I can't stay focus long enough to read a book as sad as that sounds, but I did want. I did want to let you know sort of where I've been with this. I kept it quiet kept it quiet from even my children too. A deeper degree. I didn't let them know about the depression that I was suffering. They found out yesterday. And that leads me to the second part of this. And that is I was lauded as being brave by letting you inside being transparent, but I wasn't brave because I didn't ask for help. Didn't tell anybody about it the brave people come forward, and if I can help one person with yesterday's disclosure, then this was well worth it. Because the people who come forward and ask for help with depression or if you're on meds right now. And you don't feel good. You don't feel a certain way, you're not quite sure then ask. Ask I was on prednisone. And it was terrible. It was a great drug and a terrible drug. I didn't ask enough questions. Ask questions the brave people come forward. And if it helps one person come forward just to ask questions to get help. And don't be afraid, you know, depression, you know, doesn't discriminate doesn't discriminate doesn't care who you are. What you do how much money you make you know, nothing. It comes after you. And it stays and it can go deep and it went deep with me. But you know, I'm not brave. I was cowardly that I didn't come forward that. I didn't ask I didn't seek help. So those who do your the brave ones. But if it helps one person it was well worth it. And I do want to emphasize I want to reinforce is. I'm in good. I'm in good situation. Now, it took a long time to get here. It took chemotherapy to get here. Believe it or not. But I never thought I would. Ever embrace the day when they say, hey, you got a couple more days before you go in for another IV when they put chemo in you. And I look forward to it because I felt better feel better ninety percent of the pain is gone. It used to be the other way around. I hated getting out of bed. I needed to come in I needed to laugh, you know, and I was able to do that. But you know, it got to the point where it was. It was going to be like this the rest of my life. I was lucky. You know? I I ask enough questions. I actually went to jail, Colorado. This deadman clinic to ask about stem cell research. That's where I was I was actually going to go out of the country. I was willing to do that with stem cell. I was I was at the end of my rope. And that's when this doctor said hospital for special surgery in New York asks for this, doctor, they're doing different things there. And when I went in and she said, it's chemo, but it's light chemo, and I go what is light chemo mean? Like, okay. And she said, you don't have the same side effects. I said great, you don't lose your hair. You're not nauseous, but you'll have brain fog, and you'll have headaches and she was right about that. But I'm in a great situation. Now, I'm healthier never been in better shape. I feel healthier and I'm alive. You know, so. I'm surprised you guys were you guys have been pretty serious about this. And usually I you know, I'm getting roughed up a little bit. Is it too soon to make jokes here polling? We sprinkled a few in yesterday our three we let it bring a few minutes. Right. It was it was tough on everyone here yesterday. Because you know, we don't we none of us wanted. We we've seen a lot of what's going on in the past seven years with our own eyes. And so I did it yesterday as a good day. I didn't tell you guys yesterday. I did give Seton a heads up right before I was going to announce this. I said look get ready. I'm going to go heavy here and Seaton's looking at me like okay to call up Robert Kraft or something we thought was like one of those. No, no. And I thought if I told you I probably wouldn't do it. And I just made up my mind, he said, let's just go just get it out. And it's move forward with it. And hopefully, you'll understand L if there are mistakes made or I forget things or you know, it's gotten to the point where. I will say something at the end of a segment go over to the other side with the dannettes, and then paulie has to remind me what I teased that. I'm gonna talk about when I come back. Focus is really a big issue. I told the story yesterday I forgot how to start my car one day. I went to the grocery store and forgot why was there, and I'm the one that was going there for salad dressing. I came home with all ABS. You know, the our whole situation. I just couldn't I couldn't come up with his name. So there are those moments. But I'm no hero. I'm not brave. The people who go forward come forward who are willing to put themselves out there. You are the one to be lauded not me. I just told you what was going on. And I hope I can help just one person out there though, want mclovin, by the way, I have thing. That's huge relief. I must have been a big issue with the chemo. And they said it wouldn't affect the hair. I think we all can priorities we can all clap on that one on breathing a little easier, America's happy more than thank you with that. The first thing they said to you, by the way, even before they got into any detail. They said you won't get nauseous because there is another treatment where I'd give myself or I take pills every Friday. And then you take it anti nausea pill on Saturday. And I got I don't wanna do that. And they said, I so this this Tim is the drug that I take and I have the highest dosage, and I said what what? Is going to happen. She goes, you're not going to lose your hair. I said, I'm not worried about losing my. Dad? Yeah. Okay. I was slightly worried about losing my hair. Do you think the doctors realized that modern medicine has no chance against your head of hair poll question? Would you rather have nausea or lose your hair, nausea? Yeah. I'll go. Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. Yes, paulie? We got an I'm sure you did too. I'm sure you more than me. But I got a ton of notes from different people from all different places. Just a smattering of people who reached out to send well wishes and aerial Halawani. Chris long the football player Scott van pelt called the grounds crew at Pinehurst resort who watches the show every day. They're like we wanna make sure Dan's, okay. Half the staff and the Howard Stern show reached out and I could go on for about an hour. But just Larry Beal who I'm sure you haven't hung out with. Here's from sports center. He reached out said anything he could do unbelievable amount of people. Yeah. It was. It was humbling that the these people are reaching out. I should have announced this a while ago. When. I was in real trouble. Because now, I'm feeling better. And people are saying prayers, and I'm good, you know, there was a time. They were pew years that I was not doing well, I was in a dark place. But now, it's a cloud is lifted although there is a cloud in my brain. But I can live with that. I got five more treatments. That's it. And I've decided that I'm doing five more. And that's it. They said you're going to do twelve year of this. And then that's it because of the memory losses. What's key really disconcerting for me? And that's the one that scares me. They had me doing crossword puzzles, I'm telling the LA times, crossword puzzle. I'm horrible at crossword puzzles horrible. But they said you got to have your mind stimulated. What do you do for living? I said, well, that's not going to stimulate my mind. If you've been around the guys I'm around that's not going to stimulate my mind. Yeah. Took a shot at you guys did. Yeah. So what I guess someone is feeling better. Yes. One of my favorite notes from JJ watt. Tell Dan all the best what a champion tough guy and he offered to declare any one of us. It would help put you in a better mood, which is very thoughtful. I know you like that fritzy's hurting on the inside. So I wouldn't want JJ. We don't have to add to it who had a tougher day yesterday me or fritzy I'm gonna say, it's at least a push if not slightly knee for the right all kinds of stuff about me. But that's okay. I don't need. I don't need the attention that. But I think that if we really write everything down and how it affected everybody over the next several hours price slightly me. Fritzy goes, you know, I'm the one that has the medical issues, and I go, I know I'm sorry. That's my thing. I'm the one. That's unhealthy. I'm sorry. Because we must have off thing that we bring to the table. You know? Gets dressed up in costumes among many other things that he contributes to the show everybody pose the snarky thing seeing the, you know, the boy band good looks and stuff. You know? I got the Crohn's disease and everything we were in the market on Bala shoes, you do go. That's my, you know, just don't make any kind of announcement today at tomorrow. It's like oh. By the way, I run to the bathroom a lot. And I guess. Get some kind of intestinal issue. Let me have my you can have it all the other days. I just had it one day. And I only had it for about eight minutes. That's all you can have it back. I don't want it. You kind of started day to. Okay. But I was just. Yeah. Wants to be fair. Right. You kind of taken this too. Yeah. Luckily, it's the weekend ahead. Okay. Yeah. I'm not going to be around. You know, what if you guys want to commit on Saturday? I'll be more than happy to talk about this on Saturday. You said we could make jokes. Now, we did we did have an alternate alternative version of the show open that we play. Yeah. Seton knows more about it than because you played if you listen on radio, then you hear the show opened on TV. We don't play that. But sometimes it pokes fun at people. Bob schmidt. Who does this is genius? He did Email me yesterday. He said, hey, I just want to say I love you today. Because tomorrow when you hear the show open, you might not like me. All right. Let's let's hear it. Mr. day on an emotional, Dan Patrick show. There's something I wanted to bring their these moments that I have had memory loss at what point during this. Can we poke fun? Yeah. Absolutely. It's all over for business. Today again because forgot yesterday on a volume ocean. Dan, Patrick show. There's something I wanted to bring up. I'm kidding, boss. I don't joke about such matters. Thank you suck up. But probably wish that you could forget this. I've actually brought food into the restaurant and the YMCA really hungry, and you have to go in the bathroom at the same time. Oh my God. What would you just I'm not sure which reveal is more upsetting? Broadcasting from the Mercedes, man cake. What the hell's wrong with you? Here's Dan Patrick. Yeah. We do. Well done. Oh, you gotta laugh. I mean, that's what got me through the last six years six plus years. We laughed so much. It was so important to laugh because there were days when I did not want to be here. And I'm sure there are days when you didn't want me in here. Given the move that I was in. But I'm in brother. Thank you. I was going to give it twenty four hours made the enough. And look at the top ten o'clock. I was gonna wait till ten twenty eastern and give it a full twenty four hours. But it's twenty three hours. Yes. Mclovin. You know at a bookstore. They say do not bring merchandise into the bathroom. That's real. Yeah. They don't even feel the need to put up a sign. Do not bring food into the restroom that should be obvious to most people. But I remember living in Burbank. Gotta got the big foot pizza many years ago. I think Pizza Hut dominos, while had distinct Bigfoot pizza got home from the overnight shift that was starving that the big foot pizza big bag Lay's chips, a two liter mountain dew. And I was watching Saint by the bell. Like, it was like one in the afternoon, and I had a license my hand, and I had of unto the bathroom, but I didn't like putting it down. And next thing you I'm like, oh, I have pizza with me in the bathroom. Let me doing. This is not good. But I continue finishing the crust and dude my business and what back to the couch. So I feel like that's the first time. You did that. I'm thinking time. It's not the I remember this one time in Burbank twenty years ago that I took food into the bathroom, and I'm going to be as it's not always pizza the food shavers. The venue jaylo main thirty seven year old man watching save by the bell. Welcome to the program. If you like get in touch with the program, you can there's twenty six but still it's wrong variety of ways Twitter at DP show. Eight seven seven three DP show, Email address DP, Dan, Patrick dot com. And we say good morning to be our live dot com. It's streaming free and direct TV's audience network channel two thirty nine. We'll come up with a poll question here. We'll recap last night's action in the NBA bucks. Celtics nuggets in blazers tonight. Chris Simms from NBC sports. We'll stop by the man cave. Mitch trubisky. The bears QB will join us. Seth Davis CBS sports the road to the final four. He will join us coming up with this college basketball scandal that's going on mclovin. What kind of question? Do you have for me? I let's Joel Embiid. There was debate last night about how good he is. If you had to bet a week's pay do you think he is headed towards a hall of fame? No. I think he's wonderfully talented. I think he's got a great personality. He's got everything you want. He just can't stay. Healthy. He's only played in one hundred fifty eight career regular season games. That's not a lot for a guy who was drafted back in twenty fourteen. Does he have the talent? Yes. But that's where Mark Jackson last night said the following. This guy's been dominant absolutely dominant. It will be a crime. If he leaves this game barring any injury, not being compared to the best big men. That's ever played this game. He's got to be in that discussion. It would be a crime. If that's not the case. Well, Jeff Van Gundy just about jumped out of my TV saying that hold on pump the brakes he brought up shack king. David wilt Kareem. Patrick Ewing is a long list there of big men. Joel Embiid is really talented. But he's fragile if he stays healthy, then I'm gonna guess he's on his way to the hall of fame. But you know, there are a lot of guys who've had great starts and not great. Finishes. They couldn't stay healthy. And Joel Embiid is great as he was. He was injured in college at Kansas. But footwork first time I saw on. I remember coming in. I saw him on Saturday. I came in on a Monday. And I said this kid Kansas reminds me of a Kemalism on his foot work is unbelievable. He has more range than came. He's bigger than a came. He's not a better player than it came. But he's a defensive force offensive force. And he's got a big personality, but you know, to say, it would be a crime if he's not up there among the greats of all time, and I got to see a little bit more. And he's going to be first team. All NBA. You know, if I said, you could have joke at us future the Denver center or Joel MB who would you take because they're probably around the same age joke, which is not going to get slower. He's as slow as you can possibly be. But he's unbelievably great all around doesn't have the per. Analogy is Embiid. He's played for the nuggets. So he's not on primetime TV lot but joke, which is every bit the player numbers wise that Embiid is he beat scores. He blocked shots, he rebounds. He's a great passer. Either wonderful player. Embiid makes highlights Jokic just makes his team better. And you watch that Philadelphia team is I did last night. And I go why can't you be like this all the time? They drive you crazy because you watch and you go if they play like they could beat Golden State. They have the talent to be Golden State. Now, they don't have the consistent game to be Golden State because when they have a bad night, it's a bad night. Golden State can have a bad night and still win. Yep. Polling just to give a little perspective Hakeem allies wanted age twenty four third year in the league. Same exact Embiid twenty three and a half points per game eleven and a half rebounds, three assists, and three blocks and beat is at twenty seven and a half points per game, thirteen point six rebounds, three point seven, assists, and two blocks. And he plays three fewer minutes a game. If you look at Embiid stats are right there with allies one at the same age. They really manage them beads minutes. He's only thirty three and a half minutes a game. And he played sixty four games this year. It feels like that could be it for the rest of his life, like sixty five games, sixty five games. And you be happy with it. The numbers are up with scoring in the NBA. Whereas when? Team played. It was a little bit more knock down drag out stuff in. It was more physical game nowadays, it's wide open. And everybody's shooting a three it feels like if you go to the hoop. You're not gonna end up on your rear end. It's it's a different NBA. And now as far as scoring goes, I would expect him beat average more than Kim allies one. But it's a different NBA. And if he stays healthy he's going to be a great player is going to be up there. Let's just start with Patrick Ewing. I mean Embiid hasn't played hint got to a conference final. How about we wait a little bit? God we want to hurry. So quickly to have a coronation. Patrick Mahomes is a wonderful player. Boy, it'd be a crime if he's not a hall of Famer can we use the same analogy here? I think he's played one great year. How about we put a couple together here, the mclovin, you know, the thing on joke it, and this might be this might be the most unfair thing I'll ever say, but how many European stats stuffing centers? Do we see win fifty games and go out in the second round of the playoffs? There's like six of them like, Richie and bound Tunis. Like, I don't know. I got to see him win in the playoffs. I don't for some reason he doesn't scare me against like view. Joe kitchen, the Sixers and you had him beat on the nuggets. And what are we talking about? I don't think it Embiid sets the the tire defense on that team. But but what would you do in Denver? He it'd be nice player. I think both teams would be very similar spots. I don't think I could replace Jokic on the Sixers and take away Embiid, then they're equal. You're saying the teams would be probably the same right now. But I think Embiid has a higher upside because. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, he has the ability to do things that not a lot of big men can do. Well, I think a guy like joke. It's he's got to prove he can win a playoff series. Impede be beads. Gotta prove that he can stay healthy. But to say, it's a crime. If he doesn't end up on the crates. I of all time his point was his that kind of talent which you've always separate see does. She has wonderful talent incredible talent his footwork is unbelievable for a guy that big he's on the ground like seven times a game. I don't really worries. Yeah. He's a little bit reckless. We'll take a break here. We'll talk to Seth Davis. Seth tweeted out something yesterday. He might want to take it back because he's talking about this college basketball corruption scandal, the trial that's going on. And he said, you know, maybe college basketball is cleaner than what we thought. No, I don't think. So I think it's still dirty. Whether you're these guys get popped or not and is Shawn Miller in trouble does Shawn Miller coach again at euro-zone whether he's guilty or not feels like with his name being dragged through the mud here. I wonder if he's going to be able to continue coaching. So we'll talk to Seth Davis want to do a pit stop with him. We'll take a break here. Eight seven seven three DP show, Email address TPS, Dan, Patrick dot com. It's twenty two after the hour on this meet Friday back after this in the Dan Patrick show. 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That you're watching once again, go to bet the I and use promo code D R wanna one get this limited time one hundred percent bonus cash offer. It's only a game until you bet it on GSI. Only I think pulled the curtain back on the timing of my condition. My medical condition yesterday. We're two weeks away from the sports Emmys and we've never wanted. We haven't has a show. Yeah. And paulie thinks maybe the timing. This might be our year for the sports Emmys, they call it genius, Dan in the business. What it is. I mean you had yesterday because I wanted to do this a couple of weeks ago in paulie goes, no, you can't do it. You gotta wait. You gotta wait. So we can time this out even if you don't have that medical condition. It doesn't matter just say it because we can win a sports them. Thank you, Paul. I believe you're telling the truth saying the timing. God bless you. Would a sports. Emmy change us, though, I said to Seton the other night when we went to dinner, I said, I don't know is it better that we don't win this foretelling. And and he goes, no wrong. I don't we want to be the underdogs. Like if we win the sports EMMY, and we beat out pardon the interruption and some of these other great shows. Yeah. Pulling why don't we try out winning and see how it works? And if it doesn't work out, we could always go back to lose. Like, you know, let's go back. We probably will. Yeah. Fritzy? I'd like to walk around the everywhere up and down the streets and everything and maybe change my license plate till I go to the bathroom with it. Yeah. I already put in something for their you know, you any if you go by the stall at your the sports Emmys, and you see the EMMY down there by fritzy's feet. Strange things. Yeah. Like you bring in pizza into the whole slice down through the crust. Down through the crust at that point. All right. Well, come up with a poll. Do you have a question? Mclovin. I started with Joel Embiid will be a hall of Famer I have some other questions. I want to ask you a question because you're you're the shooter. Okay. Would you rather have an injured finger on your non shooting hand or blurry vision which would affect you Moore's shooter this random question, so whatever Steph curry going into game three or James harden going into game three I rather be Steph curry, I I'd rather have a banged up left hand. Instead of blurry vision. How much has the left hand do on a show? I feel like it's pretty important. Would you always tell us to be careful about our left hand? You don't think about it until you have to think about it? And then that can be then there can be a little bit of getting used to that you gotta get acclimated to just feel. He's gonna have a bandage on. It is going to have a taped up. But I think once you start to get into the flow the game the blurred vision, that's something completely different. Because I don't know of James harden is going to be able to get that. Cleared up. He he's going to be playing in game three. But the hand I think Steph curry once he gets that feel and how it feels on the ball. Then I don't think it's going to be an issue. But I think in the beginning of game three it might. And does Houston target that hand. I mean this physical game. It's a physical Sears. I was wondering this before we get to Seth Davis. Do my clippers win more games against the rock of the warriors in the playoffs. Then the rockets to because the clippers won two games does Houston win two games at least two games against Golden State. And right now, you probably go I take the under but the clippers beat Golden State twice in the playoffs. Yeah. Fritzy? I don't see the rockets winning more than one. I think they could avoid the sweep corner right now ended five you warrior, your fans. Don't worry. Thank you. We'll settle on a poll question. Seth Davis is kind enough to join a CBS sports college basketball analyst, and he got roughed up a little bit for his tweet about the FBI investigation into college basketball, the pay for play scandal, and this has to do with the Kansas is involved in you got other programs. You got Arizona involved in this. Seth Davis tweeted out for two years. The FBI used every investigative technique at its disposal to dig into corruption in college basketball, and the biggest fish they caught. We're Christian doctrines, Jim Gotto and book Richardson, maybe the sport is actually cleaner than we thought. Were you joking about this? More than. Let me tell you something you do do do. You know, how exhausting is being this modest guy on Twitter because it is a it is a fulltime job. That's why I'm not on Twitter's. So you can be the smartest guy on Twitter. Right. I I was not joking for first and foremost. Let me say it's it's running joke between us when I say, you know, in my spot saying, I love you. I do love you. And I thank you for what you said yesterday bringing in your radio family to what you're going through. And I'm praying for you. And I know you're going to be just fine with all of this. Thank you for doing that. Here's here's my point. You know, we talk about I use the words college basketball. Maybe college basketball is cleaned everything. Who are we talking about when we're talking about college basketball, the guys that I need Kristin Dawkins? Jim Gado, these assistant coach or they college basketball. I think the most people think about college basketball, we're talking about players and had coaches, and if you go back to the press conference at the southern. District of New York held a year and a half ago. They made a big show of this thing when they had the initial rats. We have your playbook. We're taking the whole thing down. I am convinced. And I know this based on my reporting that they believe that that was only the beginning of what they thought would be a process that would lead to the big names. 'cause remember now they are they're not differentiating between NCW violations in federal crimes. They are saying that committing these violations is crime because you are in effect defrauding the school. So the only thing that I'm trying to say, I didn't say college basketball was corny, but they have wiretaps and informants and tools the end state could only dream of having and what have they really turned up. Like, what pro have they turned up? We have book Richardson and assistant coach for Arizona telling Christian Dawkins who is in Spiring agent who is a known liar and is committed now seasons on a lot of levels against employers and the like saying that some Miller personally paid. As the eight and ten grand a month. Well, they wiretap these guys phones. Why don't they have shown Miller on a wiretap saying these things if the southern district of New York, you'd think they wanna put Chris Dawkins away? They thought they were getting Shawn Miller they thought they were getting Bill south. They thought they were getting. So if they had this evidence, Shawn Miller would be a defendant in this trial. So look, I'll believe anything. Oh, believe that it's possible that show did this. But just show me the proof. So meet the evidence there's finance records. There's wires transfers there's Bank statements. This guy has access to all this is so Miller such a good money launderer that he can hide pain a player. Ten grand a month and Kristin Dawkins talent, book Richardson. Yeah. Sean told me this barely knows Kristin Dawkins. He's not a big player in the space x Miller's pantheon eight and ten grand a month. You think he's going to tell that to Kristin Dawkins said it? It under oath though, Seth he said it under oath. Well, I made people I under on all the time. You know, he's an well. Kristin Dawkins is saying, but why isn't on the wiretap? No, where's the corroborating evidence? And if the FBI believe, that's sure wise, and so the defendant here, so well, okay. Let me ask you this though Cetin. Let me ask you think de'andre eight and was paid to go to Arizona. I'm answering that question with my a quote from time crews from a few good men. Don't tell me what I know. Tell me what I can prove all believe that all concede that it's possible. Okay. I'll concede that it's possible. Okay. I'm even think that it's likely I made it think that it's finally probable show me the Pru. And that's fair. Still when people say, well, yeah. Oh, that's and that's all thing. Okay. A year and a half the FBI wiretaps. He's his phones. And I know for fact, it's showing Miller's on wire TAT's because they have to be notified by law. If you're coming to wiretap, even if you're sending something benign, so I'm just saying this is what they have. This is everything that they had this notion that these trials are going to happen. And all these crazy things on wiretaps are gonna show up. I mean that only happens on on TV. So that that's what I'm saying here. And you know, so me the proof on these things, and and and low follow the facts, and that's why go wait and still the coach. LSU? And that's why saw Miller still the coach at Arizona because there has to be an actual findings. So in the NCAA moves in and all this. They're able to take the evidence from the trial. But they need corroborating evidence. They can't just pick Kristin Dawkins word that showing Miller told him that he paid the eight and for them to have an actual during that era Zona can act can sit by so Miller's contract because of this. Finding your now fire we're talking to south Davis, CBS sports college basketball analyst and a great writer great author. I'm also curious about this because there has been documentation of an ask price for Zion. Williamson at Kansas, correct? Well, again, when you say documentation, well, there is a report there there was a report. Right. That there was there were say, okay. Then there was an asking price for Zion. Williamson to go to Kansas, correct? That was stated on a on a wiretap between somebody and a Kurdish towns, and who was an assistant at Kansas. So whether or not we don't have the actual has we have someone saying I heard there was asking what we have to. Remember is that everybody everybody in this mix that they don't have these agenda. Let so again, Chris and is somebody who's trying to fill an agency because he he fired from his own agency because he was caught using Elfriede Payton's credit card to from Italy run. A forty two thousand dollars of overcharges how anybody charge gets up to forty two thousand anyway, just taking rights to Alaska or what he was doing. But he's he's a liar and a fraud on a on a lot of these levels. I think what happens is a lot of these guys talk to each other and say, I don't Patino, I know so I heard going getting ten thousand you gotta give me twenty. So I'm get us on. There's a lot of that stuff going on now where I believe that money. Of course, I would believe that what I. Leave that Marvin badly got money. Of course, I would believe that don't tell me what you don't tell me what you know. Don't tell me what you believe tell me what I can prove at the end of the day. That's what this comes down to what is the evidence. And what can we prove? Thank you sat. That's great to talk to you. Dan, patrick. I love you. Thank you for having. Thank you bunk. Let's set Davis CBS sports college basketball analyst. I I understand what he's saying. You know, you you wanna have that evidence? What I'd be surprised with any of this. What I be surprised the under eight and was paid at her. I'd be surprised if he wasn't paid at Zona. I'd be surprised if these kids had Kansas weren't paid by somebody somehow I would be surprised if Zion Williamson or his family was not paid for him to just stay in college basketball for a year. I'm not surprised at any of this. But I do think that college basketball while we want to say, oh, look at these, you know, pillars of integrity on the sidelines. There, you know. John wooden is the pillar of integrity and a lot of people's minds in code, the coaching basketball, even coaching any sport. And he looked the other way when you had a boost you had the, you know sugar daddy there at UCLA. It happens. Because their their motives that are there, and they're not always altruistic, and you have people with genders. You don't get coaches who come with players. Hey, if I'll bring in this kid got bringing the assistant coach he needs a job to there's so many people involved in it, then there's so many layers to it. I'm not surprised at any of does anybody get popped for this? Maybe not it doesn't mean. College basketball is clean or cleaner than we thought. We'll take a break. We'll come back. We got our poll question here and Mitch Trubisky. He will join us coming up. Oh polio. It's talk to Mitchell Trubisky. Do have one question for Mitch Trubisky. I think I mean there's so much to ask him. All right. Then maybe a great how grave a runner. Are. You real hardcore stuff any cold like, Mr. biscuit. Oh, yeah. We talked about that right before the draft. Yeah. He's Mr. biscuit. Do we know why he's called Mr. biscuit? And he also said it's Mitch or Mitchell yet, we people are more is mom wants Mitchell. He said you can call me Mitch like Daniel Jones. Ooh. Is he gonna stick with Daniel? If he was Danny Jones will he be thrown for four thousand a year think so Daniel Jones just doesn't sound like that's not scary gay manager. How about Mr. Jones? Stor tunes and for too familiar with that song? Yeah. Just that line though, that is no. Counting Counting Crows. Yeah. Yeah. Adam, you should know. Adam dirt's little hardcore for fritzy likes a little lighter than that. Just like Adam dirig- dated Courtney Cox and Jennifer Aniston. That's I think at the same time time. Yeah. At the same time you pull that off. Like, what was he thinking that he let both of them go on his cO bit that should be paragraph one and second he was in a rock band. That's pretty popular. I don't know if I brought that up to at the all star game in Milwaukee. But remember when we set next we sat with him. It was the the night before the all star. Yes. Like, I m g the agency had a party, and we got to go. And he was hanging out. He looked miserable. He looks sad. He was behaviors fan any. Yeah. 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I believe that. Geico could save you fifteen percent or more on car insurance. Play. Of the day. Check this out Sivuth. Joe? It be faking three. Hey ram St. bills a slam. This is over Joanna is with Bill detail in a playoff. Sixers radio network ninety seven point five the fanatic little this is how we do. Joel Embiid puts an emphatic finish on his big night thirty three and ten Sixers go up to one game for Sunday afternoon. All right, mclovin. I'll let you have the floor the numbers sweeping the nation. Go ahead. You're European big man stats. Well, you said a joke. It is better than no, no, I said moving forward whose career would you want? Embiid can't stay healthy. He's a wonderful taymor talented than Jokic. Okay. I'm gonna tell you to two sets of such tell me who's who. Okay. Twenty point eight points per game, twelve rebounds per game, three point eight assists per game or twenty point one points per game ten point eight rebounds per game seven point three assists per game. One dumbest game ever. I'm just gonna tell you. What is Nikola Vova? Check Bucci Vic Vuckovic Orlando Magic. The other is Nikola Jokic. Okay. Joe catches the second one. Averaging. I got Jonas Valent unison here. Ari Rudy go, Barry and his cat or. He's not a big mission feet. He's a shooter. He's not a big, man. That's his style. Plays also big. And then there's the Montessori bonus. There's a lot of European centers. If you call them think they're a stat stuffers. They have not except for pouch assault. A lot of them have not one titled Guber. Neither is Joel Embiid night yet. I mean, come on. You saw what happened last night? He's got an unbelievably talented team NBA Twitter declared the Sixers the favorite to win by every night. They changes day our show into the Sixers after they win. And so down on them after they lose is Rudy Gobert on that list. Yeah. I have go berries crazy. Go bears fifty point nine points per game twelve point nine rebounds per game. That's like an two point zero six per game. I didn't know he was so good on the glass. I just saw this sportscenter get up, and I take all up a year over the last year April. So the month of April, though, shows are all up. Signed to get up to him. Yeah. But we weren't on the air in April. Do think there's any correlation here between these shows get up and say saying last April we were on the air. Yeah. And now this April we weren't. We were not so yeah, you're welcome. Yeah. Greenie. You're welcome. Stephen A give you a little boost their even Randy sky, d Scott Randall case, Scott and sportscenter friend of argument, a little pop there. You're welcome. That's what we do play of the day, by the way, brought you by Callaway they made a little compression, low spin tour ball, others tried to say, but they can't do at chrome soft is the only ball with the graphing infused dual saw fast core for serious speed and unbelievable greenside control order chrome soft today. Callaway golf dot com. Did we settle on a poll question actually have up there? Do you think Joel Embiid is headed four hall of fame career, which I know kind of silly this point I'll let's see fifty four percents. No, I I couldn't care less. You know, if you got to see it. Yeah. If he does it great, then he'll be a hall of Famer. But I can't sit there and agree with Mark Jackson sabia travesty of he's not a hall of Famer. I think it would be sad though. Because that talent it'd be it'd be wasted talent. But but why Joel Embiid and not other has more Jackson ever said, it'd be a crime. If this guy doesn't end up being a hall of Famer they say that about Greg Oden. Profile. No. But the owed have Embiid skillset, not quite, but, but there are a lot of their guys who've had a lot of talent. But I don't know if we've singled around go be a crime if they're not a hall of Famer, but a guy like buoy or Sambu Odin had all that talent. They never got it started like all Hardaway. It's a crime. That penny is not one of the great civil time along with Grant Hill like that's criminal that they were injured and probably in grants case it was criminal in Hal his injury was handled. Yeah, important. I see what you're saying though. I felt like B was never gonna get started. Then he gets started. And he's really good. I know he's still managing minutes and games. But he's really entertaining. Really good. But you hold your breath every time he goes down or you hear oh, he's going to miss a game for just to be cautious. You like on now. Here we go. If feels like it feels like a Derrick rose situation. Yeah. He's another player. Yes. Mclovin. I think it's the center thing too. We put expectations on the great center not as much anymore. Yeah. That's the thing. But I think it's sort of a left hold over from the great era of center. 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"The Paul finebaum show podcast is brought to you by capital. One capital. One is reimagining banking offering account with no fees or minimums that can be opened in five minutes capital. One. What's in your wallet capital? One NA member FDIC. But pride, and then pageantry of college football leaves here. This is Paula finebaum show. Our to podcast. Walk can be back. We are. So glad you are here and great to have you on board as we continue. Take your phone calls at eight five five two four two seven two eight five a lot of guests coming up and quitting. A look back on the the last couple of weeks in New York when the federal trial into the Adidas case seemed to go bust, according to many experts, let's get back to the calls and love to hear from you about red dog is up next. How are you ready dog? Hey, Paul area. We are doing great. Thank you. First of all, I love your show and only second time caller. But I just wondered I apologize. I'm coming late to the show. But I don't know how much people have already been talking about. But forgive me. But is is everyone else getting his sick of the Mullen show is as I am. I mean, I mean, you know, he is anyone really is quote here, you know, when Justin feels decided to enter the transfer four. Oh and go to how stay he came out with his, quote, if someone rated already I have not heard about it now. Okay. He came out with his Twitter when he says, I think we did a poor job recruiting if guys coming in and then immediately walking out the door because it was something different than what they thought. It would be and we lied to them enduring recruiting are we sold him on a dream that. Wasn't true. So we just taking a shot at the dogs because feels had left. Well, you know feels played a full year for the dogs before he made his decision slee-. Well, now, you know, then today it comes out, you know, you, you know, in last few days he lost his quarter one of his quarter tie his top recruit. Oh, yeah. Now, he's lost these top cornerback. And so I think karma is kind of a bitch. And I'm sorry. But I mean, you know, don't you send this kind of come in? I mean how how long will they before? Even the Florida folks start turning on him. When all this stuff turns sour. Well, listen I nobody's turning on him yet. I I can tell you that. I was you know, happened to be down there couple of weeks ago, and they're about as unified behind him as c can be, but no he exceeded expectations and they believe right now. But you know, after one year a lot of coaches all a lot of fan bases believe in head coach. Well, I think it's great to quote, how many thousand days it's been since Georgia has achieved a national championship. But I think it's also kind of interesting quote Hemi days being since Florida be Georgia fair, fair statements. Listen good to hear from you. Drew is up next. Hey, drew. Welcome to our show on this Thursday afternoon. Hey, buddy, what's going on not so much? Are you doing drew? I'm doing great. Hey, hey, hated that mystery yesterday being in Alabama. But apparently you were not able to get out there. I I hope that is the see sometime soon when you come back to Birmingham. I was I was I was calling just to ask you I figured I hadn't called in a while. And I thought I could get through this time. I was wondering why do you think all of us over and fan have become so complacent with mediocrity. These days. Through. That's a great question. Yeah. I was talking about talking about Zahn yesterday. And he seems way he seems unfazed by. But you know, he's not necessarily the issue where I think is well here here's what a couple of weeks ago, Danny Sheridan came on here and was very critical malzahn, and I didn't hear anyone really even take exception or issue with what he said. And I think some of that is because I think Auburn fans right now have a have a lower level of confidence in in mouse on they they really are tired of the fighting back and forth. Well, it's it's very disappointing. Because you feel like mouths on goes eight and four that year. They'll given the key to the city. Well, I disagree with that assessment. I think that was on is in a position where in sometimes you it does depend on the games that you win. But if he loses Alabama Georgia if he loses to LSU and still finishes eight and four I don't think anyone's going to give them a key to the city. I appreciate it emits on a swimsuit droop. Thanks for the call. Let's go to Columbus, Ohio. Are man. Jeff is calling next. What are you got Jeff? Not much far. Jeff you there. What's going on Paul, Jeff? We are doing great. Thank you. How was your Dallas? Mr david. Well, we were down in Birmingham doing interviews with saving mouthwasHon Kirby. Smart. We had about we did about twelve interviews. We will have tomorrow for the show. That's nice. That's nice Hayes was just on TBS idea or the head cheerleader Georgia. What's that guy's name? My griffith. Is that the same guy that used to be the head cheerleader, Tennessee? He was he was an acolyte for Butch Jones. I do remember that don't you? Yeah. That guy is he's supposed to be a media member or poor. I mean, the guy whenever scully's all the the full crappy use a few about Butch Jones was going to get over the hump at Tennessee. I mean, he's on believable. I've done research. Such a Homer that guys that his. I mean, I see this Jeff. Would you differentiate him with many others in the media these days who who write for fan websites? Yes. Okay. I would never see a guy like Tim May or somebody up here like that basically through Chad that the other coaches and stuff, I think was was all that stuff. Like that that that sound a is for guy that's writing for bra at schools website, or whatever, you know, his website, or whatever I mean. And how could he goes from one school to the other like that? But within the same division of a conference that makes no sense. Well, you know, listen, I have a theory. Maybe I maybe I'm either to close to it or too far removed. I don't know really which one, but I think I think without getting specific on on Griffith. I think it's indicative of the media today that that the digital has taken over things to such a degree that if you don't get people to read your stuff or could talk about it or. Seminated here or elsewhere. You will not last very long, and you can interpret that any way you want. And I'm not, you know, I've been on board with that. I've been talking to you about that for the last two years Yano. I mean, the the Sali's the laurel in this guy. I mean, they do stuff out there and see us it sticks. I mean, if if it if it does like, you say resonated with the fan base there whining about it doesn't matter. That's what I'm stumped me so much last year about the urban Meyer thing because guys opinions are taking us sacks. I mean, come on this guys out there spewing stuff about towards him toward his opponent and people are listening to this. And there's there's thinking this guy knows what he's talking about any online only here's doing is trying to get clicks listeners millennium park realize how does how does this differ from everything else in the media nowadays? Whether it's cable news or or cable sports. It doesn't. And that's what I've been talking to you about the media ESPN. It's all about guys opinions. What people try to take him? As fact, and they're gonna listen, I'll put on something I'm not gonna name the shows. But I'll put something on in at some point in the morning just to get a at least a perspective on what has happened. And you can't you you you absolutely cannot find out. What happened right? If it's it's a it's over the top. I just don't get you know. But hey, come when you have a guest host on won't be guys supposedly quit the show seem to want to call in. When the when the when the substitute teachers in the house. I mean is that as Jim when they're talking to you? Now, you got I mean, if you don't see much control your poppet that he wants and Lynn when the substitute teachers in. Yeah. I know I don't know. I mean, obviously, I didn't hear the show yesterday. But I heard our boy called in. I don't know what he said. What did he say? Yeah. I didn't really miss to either. She's not worth listening to. But he's sure cold him on the substitute teachers in and the and the and the main guys out, but and then I wonder if Larry from Shelby don't even come on Larry at Jones's in Larry quit the show because he wasn't treated, right. Remember, he he had one of his boys? Call it a couple of days later, and he was not happy with the way we was treated because ki-be AC was giving him a hard time about the Alabama game. So Larry has done what he always does he quit. So Larry's head and he's quit to show about twenty times. And you know, what we don't really care. I mean, he's a good caller. We like to talk to him. But you know, we're not we, you know, we don't have a welcome wagon service that goes around neighborhoods trying to talk callers into calling the show again if you don't want to call that makes room for somebody else. That's right. And then you can take sesame Paul about the buckeyes. I'll just I'll just keep coming back and take the more shots. I mean, that's just the way. That's what it's all about. Isn't it? Listen, he's a quitter. What else can you? Right, right. I I just wanted to get the facts, right? 'cause I just didn't know what to believe that Griffith guy all over the board was what does tell towards, you know, being a Homer and all this time to humor just didn't make a lot of sense to me. But you're the good, man. Great to have you on. We'll talk bit about the college basketball scandal that really didn't seem to accomplish very much Gary Parrish. One of the top basketball writers in the country and talk show hosts he'll join us next to listening to Paul finebaum show podcast. We will talk to Gary perish at the bottom of the hour about what didn't happen at the trial in New York. And what's is the state of college basketball changed any? Meanwhile, it is up next in Auburn. Hey, paul. Hey, ed. Hey, if you remember me I used to call you quite a lot in Birmingham in the early eighties. And and I've met you several times the last time I saw you was it books of million here and tiger town local Lanka. Remember four. Remember being down there sheriff? Yes. I was just gonna tell you. You know, you're asking about the mood of of all people about Gus malzahn. And I'm just going to tell you that, you know, it's hard to hear that. I'm sorry. I've been in front of the hospital. It's hard here to say anything bad about him. Because the, you know, the local talk shows they will so much to you know, to keep positive spin. But in my opinion, I think he's put Auburn in a bad position. Is he in four years Paul he signed twelve up at CYP loan and they've got five offense sublime and next year. They're going to be seniors. So you know, I've never heard of anybody sign that you offense. But I think last year I think he he blew the LSU game. Think could coach him would have won the Tennessee game. I think they were lucky. Win the Texas AM game or your Bannerman. Yeah, they were and you know. A little bit went to Auburn and everything like that it this is a makeup break year for him. And I I don't see it happening. And they said, well, the schedule in my answer to that is well, if he would have done a better job, the schedule he shouldn't be that far behind the other teams that he's going to have to play and they're going to have to play Florida this year instead of Tennessee, they're opening with Oregon, and they've got the rest of the SEC west. And I'll just going to let you know that I for one, you know, I just have a hard term seem to turn out. Good Paul, you, listen, I I think when you look at Arbonne you have to be objective. You can't just bring up well everytime. Auburn is expected to do. Well, they I mean that that's that doesn't matter. Maybe it happens. Maybe it does the difference. Here is it Auburn will be top twenty team. So this isn't one of those years when people think I it's a five six win team. So it. Listen, even if they negotiate the schedule moderately will in win eight games. That's not enough. No. I don't think. So we'd Paul, and you know, like, I said, I don't know hate the ban a general eight anybody. There's a lot of people round here that I remember when Bama was going through hard times. And you know, you gave them what they you know, when they had a coach that wasn't doing right? You said he's not doing right. That's that's not gonna work. But I I just want to tell you very good to talk with you again. And you know, hopefully, I can get back in soon. And we're told me it was good to see your couple years ago, and it was through there, and you please stay in touch because I think I think that is one of the intriguing stories of the college football season. Thank you very much. We'll have the Gus malzahn with us tomorrow hotter about what he expects. Walter is in North Carolina, Walter you're you're next good afternoon on the program. Hello, Paul Walter, first time caller longtime. Listen, how you thank you very much. Great great to hear you Paul. The reason why I'm calling in today is just basically those decommitments that we have. But those two recruits going into the transfer Puerto, and basically, you know, I believe coach Mullen. I don't know the problem is, but those kids are not. So once they get on campus. What do you think Paul? Yeah. I mean, listen, we haven't talked much about it. But I've read the stories, and they're pretty confusing him in the, you know, the one is the best recruit out of Mullen. God that there were issues. And and I I don't know if it's if it's if if it's view into the program that something's wrong, whether they're isolated, but but they are going to get a lot of attention and the attention will be negative. Yes. I think he has to start winning first. Then the kids will be sold into the atmosphere. Yeah. L listen. I don't have any problem with with going around the the the circuit. Which is what these coaches are doing right now. I talked to Kirby about yesterday. He's on the road every night and getting your fan base excited. But you you you it's it's not a wise move to try to take out. Your bitter rival who happens to be in the top four right now over the last three years. I agree with your call. Okay. Well, Paul thank you very much. Thank you. Great to shore. Yeah. That was that was interesting there. We had a realistic gator fan. Enjoy that moment. Ronnie is in Georgia next. Ronnie go right ahead. Yeah. Hi, Paul Ronnie. I'm calling from Tom Downey Thomas feel my lifetime dog fan season ticket holder for thirty years now. But and you know, all the preseason hype about us being top three five, whatever. But I've got some reservations for some reason this year and not only our schedule's pretty tough. But I I'm just wondering what do you think? I mean, I I know I should have a great offensive line. We get Jake prom back. I'm gonna backs we should be. Okay. But I just don't feel it for some reason. Like, you're not alone. I've got friends who've seen the team in practice, and and they can come up with the same things that you can. I think I haven't. It was feeling it or not. I I really like what Kirby has done. He seemed pretty confident yesterday. We talked about Jake from. I think that's where it starts. He's got the the compliments around him. And I think what you have to if you can choose to believe or not to believe. But if you believe you have to say, we're going to be great because offensive line is is deep the recruiting has been phenomenal. However in this may be where you're going. You you go through a coaching upheaval like he has gone through with coordinators leaving for whatever reason, and that is a difficult thing to to deal with regardless of your talent. Yep. I agree. I just don't see I'm concerned about the explosiveness on offense. I think the defense will be great. That's Kirby's strong point. Absolutely. He's killing recruiting. But I'm worried about that explosiveness on offense. And we're really going to have it. Why out you know, and slot receiver and even tied in? Now. You know, we lost some guys that pros early. And I'm I'm really concerned about it. So I'm just wondering I thought about it all your show, thank Bainbridge native, and and live there all my life until just now recently moving over here to Thomas fill, but and watch Kirby playing high school in his dad cokes here. But but anyway, I appreciate your show. What? Oh, and thanks for taking my call. Rodney stay until you got a great hear from you. And one thing you're you're going to hear tomorrow, I'm not trying to upstage the whole show, but I talked to both Kirby and Mullen, not mow into it Malegaon, and saving and they're all in in unison about the transfer. The not not import. It'll but the the players that came out for the draft and did not get drafted that is that is becoming a huge story, among coaches and Kirby told me. That. It's it's it's the it's the secondary agents that are causing the problem. It's it's not the mainland guys. I mean, the people they whose name you have heard. I mean, they're being they're being pretty open and honest with players they have to be for the reputation, the coaches are being honest, but you've got these you got these rug merchants out there who who who need who are trying to meet a quota with their bosses at CA or wherever whatever organization they happen to work with. And that's why they're misleading players. And it is it is taking a toll Alabama and Georgia have have big numbers. Other schools have numbers. It's a real problem. Anyway, lots to do on the program today. More of your calls eight five five two four to seven to eight five. We'll talk a little bit about the college basketball scandal. What it means when we come back. You're listening to the Paul finebaum show podcast. Welcome back. We're glad you're here show for weeks. We've been waiting for this trial in New York and finally ended with a predictable verdict yesterday. But what does it really mean? Gary perish pining today in his column on CBS sports had much to say. And always a great thrill for me to welcome. Gary perish to the show. Gary. It's good to have you on really enjoyed what you did in that piece. And and for those who haven't read it or really don't know what all this is about. Let's start with the trial the the verdict. And and and and really what happened because I mean, I I was led and you're leading and we all were led to believe this was going to be a seismic change in college basketball. It doesn't seem like anything really happened. It was wild to go back last night and read a lot of the stuff that was written and said back in September two thousand seventeen when these risks arrests were initially made, and June Kim, the acting attorney general in the southern district of. New York held this press conference where he announced to the world that he's got the playbook of dirty college basketball coaches, and even you know, instructed, you know, people who are operating, you know, outside of the rule book or law that they'd be smart to call him. Because you don't want us calling. You cyncially saying we're about to wreck the sport and all the dirty programs that certainly what he suggested certainly the way he presented himself. And here we are. Now, nearly two years later everybody who was arrested has now either been convicted or flee plead guilty to federal crimes, and I guess that's interesting. But it's no heavy hitters at all. It's it's minimal players. I mean, you know, minor players in a corrupt system like who. Really cares. If neural code and Christian doctrines are found guilty of anything. They seem to suggest that they were going to expose some of the biggest programs and coaches in the sport. And they did that to some degree. But if you and I are talking right now, there were still only one head coach who lost his job because of anything connected to this. And that's Rick Pitino. We'll wait. It's still the coach at LSU. Shawn Miller still the coach Arizona they'll sell to still the coach can and it really does feel like the federal government based on the way presented things in September two thousand seventeen they way over promised way under deliver. Listen, let's let's say the the feds out of it for a second the Gary. But based on what what you know? And you watch this very closely from your purchased at CBS sports on TV Enda on their digital platforms. Should those three coaches? Remain employed, still they should have jobs after what we think, we know. I mean, I think Bill self maybe because he actually does have plausible deniability like even TJ guests. No, the Dita's consultant when he was asked under oath. If they'll sell knew he was out there. Buying players for canvas TJ gas. No, testified Bill had no idea and nothing to do with it. Now, you can choose to believe that or not. But at least Bill can always say they had teas gas Nola on the stand under oath. He had no motivation to lie. In fact, the every reason to tell the truth, and he said I had nothing to do with it. I think Bill is fine. We'll be fine. But we'll wait is on a wiretap expressing frustration that he's made a quote strong s offer for a of prospect, and he was upset that the prospects. Handler Heddon accepted the offer yet. And the reason he figured out the offer had not been accepted. Yet was because a will decided to cut the family in too much in the handler and not enough. He goes on to explain that. He's done bills like this before for players better just as good, and they weren't nearly as complicated as this one is turned out to be and I know that will subsequently denied wrongdoing to his bosses LSU. And that's why he got reinstated. But there's just no believable story. And I say this is somebody who likes we'll wait and his known him for a long time. But there's just no believable story that explains the way the words that were caught on that wiretap. So I'm frankly surprised he's still the coaching at LSU and with Shawn Miller. It's just crazy to be. I mean every coach that was on his staff during this time period has been accused in some form of of rules violations. One has been arrested charged with federal crimes pleads guilty to federal crime. And also on FBI recordings not only admitting that he was buying players so much so that he was nearly broke from spending his own money on them. But telling you know, Christian Dawkins that Shawn Miller balked de'andre Eytan in Raleigh Aachen's, then was paying eight and family ten thousand dollars a month. You know, just from a common sense perspective. We know that there was a market for Andrea. Because he was arguably the best prospect in the country. We know Adidas was trying to buy him for canvas. There's no believable story that has him going to Arizona for nothing and two different people are caught on FBI recording saying, in fact, he didn't go to Zona for nothing. He went to Arizona for a lot of money, and Sean was directly involved. I don't understand how a university could continue to employ somebody who runs a program with all of the stuff. I just described attached to it. But on the other hand, he does have the number one recruiting class in America set to enroll, and you know. Sometimes outweighs larger issues when it comes to deciding whether you want basketball coach or not, obviously, let me go back to shoot for second and agree with you. And we'll way but not not only does the administration seemed to be all in you have a new athletic director, Scott Woodward who said, well, he's the coach until he's not. But it just doesn't seem like they care and even beyond that now realize fans are fans, but the fans just get the become outraged when when someone suggests something else, and I I'm maybe because I swim in the SEC waters. You keep expecting someone to say something. And by the way, I forget you. We haven't heard anyone whether it's a Commissioner of the SEC, whether it's college presidents, whether it's athlete directors. No one seems to act like this is a big deal. No. And you know, and now the instable a they'll continue to investigate I'm certain at LSU at AirAsia at Kansas at some other programs. But the way is not. Great at investigating this stuff. They don't have subpoena power. They don't have access to people who don't wanna talk to them. Like all of the players who are who are alleged to have been involved in pay per place game. Whether it said, Arizona or LSU or anywhere else. They're all out of college. Now, they're not going to talk to you Christian Dawkins is not gonna talk to the NC double A. And so I don't know that the incident lay is going to be able to take these issues any further than they already are. And you're exactly right. The silence from administrators or the the the cliche statement said mean nothing is is a terrible terrible. Look and from the fan's perspective. You're exactly right like fans, get outraged. If you suggest that maybe you should think about changing your basketball code because fans are fans, and I you know, I understand that. But I guess where I sort of draw the line because I'm a fan of things myself. My advice the fans would be like. If you want to say, I don't care that my basketball coach my basketball program was cheating because I assume most great basketball programs are eating like, I can I can get down with that. And then nod my head and respect it on some level. Just don't be dumb about it. You know, don't try to pretend. This is what Arizona fans are doing right now more so than any fan base. They really do think that their head coach has done nothing wrong. And there's just so much evidence. To the contrary it really is impossible for sensible person to reach that conclusion. And and Finally, I hear this all the time and you from this was coming from mainly LSU fans. I don't talk to too many Zona fans. But but they essentially say, hey, why should we get in trouble North Carolina got off? And I know that's connecting a lot of rather strange dots. But that seems to be one of the things out there. Yeah. Well, North Carolina got off. There's a loophole in the rule book, you know, as long as they wouldn't acknowledge. You know academic misconduct academic fraud. Then the incident of lay is in no position to charge them with academic fraud. The incident delayed can't tell North Carolina that it had fog classes, all North Carolina would ever admit to was that they had easy classes, but it's not a violation have easy classes, especially when non athletes, take those classes. So I agree with the general sentiment that it's insane. That North Carolina was funneling proc- student athletes into these sham classes and keeping them eligible to win basketball title after basketball title, but they got off because they had great lawyers, and they found a loophole in the rule book at LSU like it's just never been a defense. Whether you're with dealing with the incident of leg or a policeman who pulls you over on the interstate. Hey, I know I was going ninety and seventy but that other car was going ninety seventy two. Well, that's you. There's still going to write you tickets, and you're gonna. Have to move on like other people do this. We think and get away with it is not an a good defense for you. When you get caught. I don't believe for a second. That will wait is the only head coach who's broken level one rules. I don't even believe is the only one in the SEC, but he just happens to be the one who's caught on a wiretap talking about it. And that's why LSU in the position. It's in right now, you mentioned Miller's recruiting what about Wade does. It does has it seemingly had any impact at all on him. I know he's still in for one of the top players in in the south. It's still available. Yeah. He seems to be the favourite for five star prospect print 'em Wofford out of these state of Alabama. And so I guess the answer to your question is is no it hasn't had a real impact. I think the most surprising thing is like Arizona. Literally right now has the number one recruiting class in America. Even though it's still not crystal clear that Shawn Miller is going to survive this scandal. And it's undeniable that Arizona's. Going to be hit by the play in some form. Even if they can't tie directly to Shawn Miller, you know, the postseason ban type stuff is certainly on the table for Aaron AirAsia. And yet he's still been able to secure one way or another, you know, five star prospect after five star prospect of will seems to be picking up right where he was before the scandal ever surfaced as well. So I guess, you know, we talk all the time about you know, fans don't care about this stuff. Maybe it's also true that prospects don't seem to carry either because the same schools that were getting the best players before any arrests was ever made September two thousand seventeen here. We are in may two thousand nineteen and those same schools are getting the best players again. Unbelievable. Gary perez. I'm sure the NCAA will appoint another blue ribbon commission to solve all your problems. They're great. They're great at coming up with committee. They don't know that the committee's ever accomplished much, but they can they can put committee together pretty quickly a great w on Gary always always sees him. Yeah. Thanks. Thank you. Gary parrish. One of the great voices around from CBS. We'll take a bright mortar. Calm after this to listening to the Paul finebaum show podcast. Your home is important. That's why gyco helps make it easy to save on homeowner's insurance because home is more than just a place home is where you have a cute little reading nut for those rainy days when you want to curl up with a good book, but you don't even read. So you just sit in there during thunderstorms and scroll through means on your phone and laugh in the darkness. The Geico insurance agency could help protect the dark mean filled corner you call home, call Geico in see how easy it is to switch and save on homeowner's insurance. Walker back. It's been a good one. Gary Parrish, Kim Braden later on. We've had some really good gas in still time for you to be heard as well. You can give us a ring now. Eight five five two four two seven two eight five and Joe is up next in Huntsville, Alabama. Hey, joe. That was amazing segue for mister Peres there in ironic that my question aligns with the news talking about miss really seems to have his finger on the pulse of what's going on with NCW basketball. I cannot agree with the sentiments anymore. My question comes however, 'cause I know how much we all love talking about the ACC down. Here is how do you feel on Satterfield higher level? And how do you think he affects that culture during their program around? Yeah. I I think he's really good coach and he's a code. So a lot of people have thought about and would like or would have liked and I think that's a good spot for them. I mean, Louisville has got a lot of good things going for it. And so. I I think I think they desperately needed to change. I mean, Bobby portray is good to coaches. He is is you would just just run run the program off the road. I agree wholeheartedly. Sorry. It seemed like you wouldn't his buddies Patino and jury it's left town so to speak. He kinda checked out. I think there might be a lot of little might disagree with that sentiment, but I've been around that program meal majority of my life before I moved to Huntsville, I know what very well might they didn't group in the shadows of the clock tower woke up from whistles from that program. You know, so the morning things like that. And to see, you know, everything that happened typically from the basketball standpoint, and how it just, you know, quickly affected program that in my eyes skyrocketed across Silvio, the previous fifteen years, or so, you know, it was really kind of a hard blow for me if I cross that back was like, Wow, I've been preaching his rhetoric about the school. And you absolutely made a liar out of me. You know? So I felt that the dismissals. Voter-rich and Patino, we're justified. However, you is just like Shapiro said those guys now, they're they're not gonna to the NCWA. And the great thing about the scandal. That was in the Binion was you look at the guys that are now in the NBA from that from the twenty thirteen championship team like Gogi Zhang and like. Mitchell when Utah excuse me, those guys are pillars in their community. Go Zhang, I can't speak enough about him. And he goes back and forth to signal all the time for programs. He has both over there to get their world country basketball program started. So, you know, that's one of the great things always felt about Bettino was he raised leaders, but to think. All this was going on his nose. You heal? Your line yourself. That he didn't know anything about it. You know what I mean? So I'm with you. I think that Satterfield hard was justified from a culture standpoint for Vince Tyra, and I really really hope the whole the whole, you know, ship rights, right? This way. Listen, Tom Jurij for those who don't know him always had the reputation as one of the best athletic directors. And. Yeah, I mean, I I don't know enough about what they had. I mean, I mean, sometimes you just have to blow the place up. And I think he he's a he's a victim of that. But what he did there in putting the infrastructure was amazing and that school from both of football in about ETA basketball standpoint, we should be able to profit for a long time. I think so too particular with the massive addition to the football stadium. So Satterfield is is inheriting state of the art facility. And I really hope it helps to drive, you know, more more four five star recruits who that school meal. I of course, that's growing up as a little fan. Always kinda get mocked for this all you had to forgive me. I always kind of looked at Louisville football as an extension of Alabama football and all that sensor smelling better. He'll he'll fire up. Now. Now now, you know hall of fame coach Lee Corso to bring in Howard Schnellenberger to take us from a division two program to a division one. And of course, we all remember the infamous spaghetti bowl from ninety three. They'll be no one about what was going to win. You know? So I've always felt that you know, Louisville. Yeah. Engine of Alabama full reign. But Texas guy that by the way that game was in ninety that was I happened to be there. Remember it? Well, it was a Howard Schnellenberger put one on Obama wore up against the break. Two more hours to go.

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1: Greg Marshall Should be FIRED

Jeff Goodman Basketball Podcast

59:27 min | 1 year ago

1: Greg Marshall Should be FIRED

"All right time to welcome everybody into the inaugural Goodman Hummel podcasts. We did go with Goodman and Hummel Rob I'm sorry. On the UP, this is this is trash well listen until until you start to lower your demands moneywise. Wise. It's going to be Goodman and homeland right was I didn't follow him on twitter until like three nights ago and he's mad at me. I think doctor said that I. So we're on the brand new field of sixty eight media network. This is the first podcast of many that are. Coming National Pods we've got team specific pods got Eric, even door coming up with an interview with not even an interview, the conversations with Jim Boeheim. We've got Dan Dick cow doing the Gonzaga one talking to Adam Morrison some great stories. So make sure you check them all out on the field sixty media network but for now I'm Jeff Goodman he's rob. Hall a Robbie Hummel I you know. I don't know what to go with is still. Want it's. Is it the crazy thing was like my parents coming riding? Breaks down to where like a lot of my friends call me rob people that I don't know like well, our morality and it's it's whatever I don't Matte painter goes rob I think yeah, it does. He, always did he never call your? Is Rarely. Maybe. He said Rami how? Other name purdue but A. Yellow, we'll talk about the future. We, we'll say those out here. He's. He's always he's always good for a lap. Thanks anyway the Goodman at Hamill podcast we'll have it every single week. We'll bring you the latest Info in college hoops. We'll have some hot takes we'll have insight will bring guests occasionally. We'll also have the two of US rob is is the case this week and we'll talk about whatever's going on to college hoops and there is a ton to talk about today, which is crazy. We're five weeks in from the start hoped full start of college basketball season on November, twenty fifth but some news broke Thursday and involved Arizona and an evolved John Miller. My Alma Mater I'll be forthcoming here my alma mater that Plenty I know, well, listen, it's not like purdue we're not squeaky clean. Not, many can be. That's right. That's right. All those Indiana while not all the Indian schools but most of the Indian school release. squeaky. I WANNA. Ask you are you surprised taken this long for Zona with the I mean we're like Rally GonNa rears removes you know where I was. When this whole thing broke it's so crazy. So my wife and I went. We went three two months ago we went to Newport Rhode Island. In the last time I had been in Newport Rhode. Island was September twenty, six, two, thousand, seventeen I was there for Celtics Training Camp I woke up that morning was ready to go do a sport centre hit about Kyrie Irving and how he landed in Boston think about that. That's when this whole thing broke when. He's played there he's left. A long time ago with covert and I mean, it's it's amazing to me how slow the investigations go especially when you had the FBI I know the FBI has necessarily been super helpful the incident but like it's amazing to me that it could take three years to finally be like all right. You're gonNA respond to these allegations like. Gets it it really likes I get. You WanNa, be thorough, get you. But like this is out, of control. Part of the problem was the FBI basically I think told them or maybe didn't tell them but they wanted to wait till the federal investigation was done. So they could get all the information they wanted somebody else to make life easier for them safely with with with journalists whatever they want. They don't have the people to do the investigations that are qualified. I've said it for years they need to hire ten former FBI agents and Pam all two hundred and fifty grand apiece, and then maybe those those scarce some some coaches until then nobody's scared even after all this shit still nobody's really scared you could probably argue the right now it's back to what it was maybe worse in some cases. That's very. It's incredible because runaway people were scared shitless you can tell the people were terrified. To for their way, we of like crept back into, it's it's the same old story now. So, aren't to recap it athletic broke South Davis broke five level one violations. for which is. The most significant a violation you can get They are allegations One of them was a lack of institutional control by the school. One of them was a lack of our coaches control by Shawn Miller now. Says Okay what happened here was book Richardson's their assistant ended up going to jail for three months for taking twenty thousand dollars in bribes and also allegedly. Pain forty thousand dollars to a high school coach to get Ralph fiennes. academically eligible. We don't know if that's confirmed or not, but anyway Sean Miller's fingerprints never really been on this other than an ESPN report when I was there, which was inaccurate in my opinion I felt like it was inaccurate in which. There was a conversation about the Andrea and getting one hundred thousand dollars. Involving Shawn Miller and Christian doctrines we never really heard that conversation we heard other conversations which Miller on the Christian doctrines memory. Call it. But now the big question becomes what happens Oklahoma State got a one year postseason ban. For something similar probably at a little bit lesser level in terms of the assistant coaches and what he did. Lamont Evans. But ultimately, something similar the difference being Shawn Miller here obviously, a much bigger name it might point wasn't really the Heke just the head coach he wasn't there not. So. Anxious. Going forward like. You can't fire. You can't Shawn Miller can't be fired today because right now allegations of what he did, but I would not be surprised if six months down the road. When when this investigation is done and I think you need to go into there's no appeals process because of the way this is GonNa go down you can explain that but in six months we very well, we very well may look at this and say shop needs to be fire. That's that's a very good possibility but we'll see this is this is just the first step is. More Hulu. Now, the NCAA has to prove which as is going to be easier said than done I'm sure I'm not sure they have to prove up that and that's the thing with the. Ask Dug in the way your people have dug in. Would have been like they. They feel like they don't have to prove anything and I talked to the head of this New Independent Accountability Resolution Process I R P Okay I talked to her a few months ago and I asked her one point question I said, okay because they're trying to make it look like a this is completely independent. Been told there are still being trained by the Blah and I said okay. If this is the case does this mean you're innocent until proven guilty? As in a court right as in a court of law and she responded with no, they still look at it pertaining to the NCWA rules. So why is it going to be any different? The only difference rob is that they can't appeal. There's no appeal to this process if you're golden route and Arizona's going to go this route, they've actually. Their lawyers have have put for that. They want to go this route which honestly explain. Why would you ever go this route? If it's the NCAA people is this new or you take yourself out of the appeal process which seems like it's been a way to actually can escape through some step because the other the other process sucks to. I might as well, try try the new processing maybe it's better because nobody's gone through yet remember it's Memphis. NC. State Kansas Lsu are all going to go this route before Arizona so Arizona's going to kind of see how hard those schools get hit but my tank is if Oklahoma State got hit with a one year postseason ban, Arizona's getting at least that all those schools are getting dead at least that for the most part and the difference being in this one, they could get more and also Shawn Miller get suspension here I mean he's going to get. I always said I felt like. I, forget what it was but. Paris Matt Norlander Bordello and I all on a text threat. I said, let's do it. Now, what do you think all these schools are going to get? We probably did this two years ago and I think two years ago. My guess what Sean Miller would get like twenty game suspension but I didn't think they'd get a postseason ban. Now I completely changed my to based on what happened Oklahoma state I think they're all going to get. They have to get a year postseason ban right and then. What do you do? John Miller, what do you do if you're Arizona? Do you fire him? If you get a one year postseason ban and he gets twenty game suspension rob do you make a move and you? You just fire him at that point? I don't I honestly, with the way to Arizona has defended Shawn Miller I don't think they will live with that. I think they would let it ride. Be Interesting? Boy. Eighty I think I probably. I. Think you'd have to do it but they have they've gone to bat for coach Miller every step of the way they have they have. Now it's starting to hurt him recruiting finally they got. Two years ago they picked up Nico manion and Josh Green. Zeke. Analogy it was a little bit less heralded but they got lucky this year. If you look at the roster, it's like seven of the thirteen players are international kids off freshman. So I think it started to catch up with them. I think ultimately, they either make the move with him or here's one forty rob. Here's wanted to watch. He's boys withstanding. Very very close. And your own just just. Go to the pros being it out of there I mean that's what he should get on stand behind. then. So right right where it's like it's coming down at USC Seahawks job and care, and it's not like Chicago can't coach I mean he team Xavier were awesome. Is Teams Era Zona before all this were really I mean he he can really coach. So it's not like he won't be in demand. He's also he's got the demeanor for that. This is what he doesn't. He's alone is a little high strong he is high strong but just wrong I mean he recruited me and just from being around him a little bit I really think that the NBA is it's so different if you're an assistant man, right right you're live is awesome. no-blame falls on you. All the grunt work goes to like the video guys like the guy. Basically, just like present, some information I honestly believe Jeff that. And I think there are systems to do a really good job in the NBA. But one of your main roles there is being just a sounding board for the plastic and under because you understand most of those guys have played or coached to that level give what they're going through. You have to kind of be that guy that can kinda help some of these dudes through. This is not necessarily as much as you'd think I feel like you have people below you can do my buddies a video guy for the Lakers. igus driven now e learning I mean he's trying to move his way up but I I really now it's paying off I mean there's an NBA champion now but like I I really think that he he could flourish in that role and eventually you get you get hired the NBA regardless of what look at lose look at all the situations we gotta get higher than that of estimate she's in college isn't I agree with you in a lot of ways I think Shawn Miller you're right he could. He can relax a little bit as assistant coach The pressure is not unusual you don't. Only do basketball. Yes you like the game you love to coach perfect. Yeah. Yeah. So we'll see we'll see what happens there. Obviously, it's going to be something as I said, that is still going to take months even without the appeal. You're still talking about a time line. They'd probably concludes either right before the final four. Which Arizona's not going to be in the final four or probably may not be in the tournament this year to be honest they got a really good player coming in a freshman from Lithuania who is terrific You know I have my Lithuanian sources, I mean you're there for my trip I'm huge Lithuania. Yes. Huge. I'll at some point, we'll go through the whole story of how the SPA. That they. Put. US. What's What's Man. You're testing me right now I can't even remember the name of much of an impression on you. Yeah I look. We help cities. Yeah. It was lead game. When I was in Russia, we played Lithuanian team it was Inaugural Cup Group and they had a bike track around the court like a velodrome rails. Iraq bottle. It is to give birth town, Rob. Had One Restaurant Tango Pizza that's. Nothing it was nothing there. and. Then you wonder why some of these dudes that are from the stage play High Level College, basketball go overseas I can't do this I. Have to like Mike I have to retire and I I was lucky like I played in pretty big cities and you're still as for guys to play high major. College. Basketball it is really difficult to transition to Europe because you're used to the gear and shoes, you get your adidas or Nike under armour my first year in Spain we were mercury. Mercury is like a voted on my grandparents shitty boat up in. MINNESOTA. Like the ten horse. That's murkier right. or or even like a the treatment, the trainers team doctors, the facilities, my first year as well. I had to put the baskets up and take them down everyday practice because we share the gym with an indoor soccer team. So May William Buford? What am up every every day it was it's just different. You know you're not I. Think is the play at the mid major level in low major. They're not used to that stuff. That's. Near you stuff like that. All right. We'll move on topic number two. None. Other than Gregg Marshall in Wichita. October ninth rob was the night that the athletic and I broke the story about all the allegations involving Gregg Marshall. that he punched Shack Moore's in October midnight madness that day October of two, thousand, fifteen that he choked on assistant coach Collins the the next year that he made racist statements Native American? Kid on the team poor a chandler. Told them get back on his horse and made Indian howling noises. Body shamed a kid. I'm not going to say his name and I kept it quiet. But his that told me, he was in his basement for the last three years. So. Emotionally, distraught from everything he had gone through playing for Gregg. Marshall. Shack Moore's anti-taylor both told me on the record. About. The the punch the investigation started more than two months ago. Tooth Kini was the the firm they hired. But. The problem was rob that none of the kids. None of the players from that year two, thousand, fifteen and sixteen we talked to I was talking all these players and they were saying listen we don't trust. The law firm. We don't know whether they're pro. Marshall. We just didn't get good feel. So nobody really talked to the investigator until in the last maybe week or so. So that's why this investigation has dragged out now sources tell me. Last week. Monday Tuesday. Multiple players finally spoke to the investigators. And multiple ones recounted the incident with Jack, Morris. So I think something is coming down here soon, it's gotta be I mean again two and a half weeks in at this point, the investigators have all being information now on the record. But. It's going to be interesting to see what hey listen. He was never suspended. He's still coaching the team. The team, which is so insane. So. Insane. You should be fired in honestly to me. Just from reading the stuff that the Wichita State Kid said Yup. I know guys named Sheldon Bailey. We played it up the winter up your guy. Now he's actor on high would really good dude. I I've done these old. Because we found something for NBC last November for the Olympic experts around three, and he was one of the guys that played we were demonstrating the rules with. Brought would guy that's Milanovic staff. So you think he's he's lebrons body double in like space jam to. Talk ten years like he's. He's really he's a really career in terms of going to Hollywood but like. I read the athletic article about he was in it and some of the other Windsor. Kids. To me. I think march to be banned for life from coaching like in the DNA, he should never coach again and it's because When you have these kids that come to your school. You have a responsibility like. They're in a way these kids are they can make you so much money like you look at it he's paid three million dollars a year. Plus his team have won, he's a good coach. Don't get me wrong but his players had to go out and play a great marshals not making three point shots from the bench like let's be real about the players have got to do it. But it's it's one of those deals where like you have a responsibility to all those kids to give them not only a positive experience whether you win or lose but to help set up for lives when you tell me that there's a kid that for three years has been sitting in his basement emotionally distraught because he was body shamed by his coach I'm not I'm never going to be somebody that says you should like your head coach all the time. There are plenty of times where I left cracks like man. was kind of an asshole let I. Didn't go to purdue for him to be my friend. Is he my friend today yes? Am I glad he's my friend today. Yes but I want him to hold me accountable. I wanted him to make sure that I go from a teenager to an adult and I want him to make me a better play. So I wanted him to coach me hard and he did he coached all of us heart but there's GonNa be times are. Hearing a story. Pretty sure about Gordon Hayward I heard this through the grapevine. Mark Bartlestein Representative Represents Gordon and Europe mate. and. I WanNa say David Lee took Gordon out to dinner one night when Gordon was like a rookie. And David leaves talking to deprioritize guys well, and after dinner mark it up David Lee was like you know which just been. Evenly goes man. Mark. That kid is screwed up. He likes his college coach. He likes press. Brad is I mean look the nicest dude of all time but that's like it's not unusual for guys to be like man my couch because he could be a jerk but this is so beyond that like this is so far beyond what should be acceptable. To me, he should be fired and he should never coach Division One college basketball ever again. Rob I talked to like thirty seven former current players, coaches and like three. Defended Great Martial again most off the record and I tell everybody every reason well, nobody went on the record. Yeah. Because the guys who played there for four years come back in their revered right and they make money there they do camps they signed autographs and as long as Marshall is the coach yeah they're scared I mean this guy's got power right winning breeds Power which breeds fear and a lot of these players they're not putting their names. Fred Van bleats not gonNA come out right now in in in go after Gregg Marshall Ron Baker is not going to do it neither landry. Shamet, none of those guys have come out period which I think is telling rob none of them have come out to back great marsh. It's not jittered. They're saying he did do this. It's them saying he didn't do. Foot to me as the if somebody cannot dramatic painter instead he was. Abusive as a coach. Ma I would not be able to stand by that I. I would you go crazy right but all my teammates we would all come out and say, no, he's not. About to six at his maddest. I. Know What what he is like when he is really pissed and it's not. It's not bad. Not, bad. You know you've had about a half dozen that predate the Shack Morris. Team. In Two thousand, fifteen sixteen that have come out terrain Murray played in the League Joe Raglan Ramon Clemente. But but again, it's a small small percentage and not one since two thousand fifteen. Sixteen has come out. To Tobacco Now who has backed them rob Tom Devlin. Tom Devlin is their second biggest booster Charles coat their biggest booster, Tom Devlin you stone renna center. He came out and wrote a basically an editorial letter to the editor where he basically said I stand in support of great. Marshall. And then a Guy Bob Geist I think the I'm pronouncing it right from Pizza Hut. He also came out and they wrote something him in another guy, and again they're buddies with Marshall I get your buddies with them. But how can you condone to me? You're not it's not ninety eight, five right? Bobby Knight Indiana. That's over with key condone that shit like me. Again, the guys that I have people are like, well, you've got you've you've got it out on Gregg Marshall. You've had it out against them and I'm like, no no, you gotta understand great mercy never done. One thing to me Billy Gillespie never did one thing to me but you know what? When you hear these things going on Yeah Hell Yeah, I'm GonNa go after because you've got these kids like. If you're not going to and other people are in the media aren't GonNa put it out there. He's going to keep doing this the I again I've called like four Wichita state. I am he's been nothing but nice to me and I've been there. Sure. This is happening. He's gotta go colorful days of follow. 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So but man I, I don't know which way it's going to go right now I do not get you like what player would go to which such state after this year's Eve what they say about that rob here's what people have said that to me they're like, well, how's he going to be crew? My deal is Ron Baker was WOCKA. WOCKA. Question Grow Marshall gets the most out these like. A lot of debates he does a good job but. But. Still if you WANNA win at the level that which does state has been winning at, know your one hundred percent. You're not just GONNA. I mean Ron Baker is a great example. Yeah. The exception. He is not the norm of the walk on's you guess that's right. He's he's player and he plays High Level Euroleague basketball like if he can. If he can keep doing that with walk on's then Gregg Marshall might be the greatest coach in the history of the plant. So why do appreciate that example that might not be what he does with every walk on that comes to wish US state. You know what you want to be out of Gregg, Marshall keeps his job. You will want to be at the Peachey I'm next year in July when I attend the peach and see Gregg Marshall and I sit next to him does Marshall it might look like that clip from. Canada. When Wichita totally. Punch Jack Morris. Bring your body is like. You. No I'm. Not Gonna Give, you got the South Carolina. I WANNA ask has anybody said what happens to practice footage from the I mean I'm it's been. Outta here, but a player at said to me one of the players I talked to said that the the that he told them to destroy the tape I can't confirm that I don't know that for certain how about this one rob there were boosters in there there are a couple boosters in there I don't know who they were. CBS CBS was in there filming Metal March. They were in their yes. Now they may have they may have turned off the footage by then because usually when those things happen I've been in enough of those they get what they can. They don't usually stay till the very end of practice. Time. So stay with the. Shooting. They're nothing like they're doing like the most basic, right Yeah. How about that? Wow, that is. So crazy crazy soprano ago. I. I love to think about myself in that situation is a player your teammate gets punched by your coach. Like? And then he gives some half ass apology. How I don't understand like how how these kids and I get it like your he's in a position of power. He's you're eighteen to twenty two. Told me like what am I going to punch a? Back I'm just saying that go to the, but maybe they're like the hammer tied I can. I think they probably were that point. Maybe are I don't know. I just think it's it's so crazy that all it took was a all right guys L. happen yesterday. We move past it, and then everybody just is like okay like salon. Right, that's a while. So Gregg, Marshall still employed. Pat Chambers is not pat chambers. The official word is resigned rob. You didn't resign. He was obviously fired for stoute after an internal investigation that started back in July when receiver Bolton abuse now Diana's state. Said, they had a conversation and within that conversation Chambers said I. WanNa, lose the news around your neck. And obviously, that is not something you say I I don't know the last time I've heard the word news come out of anybody's mouth and that spurred. An internal investigation it's been going on since in the timing was a little bit strange in this one. But outlet director Santa Barbara. told reporters that NC Double A. Matters were not a part of this but she did admit that more allegations came out through the investigation now according to my sources part of it was. Just, a lot of people didn't like pets Amer's period at the. Coach both coaches, administrators. Players and when you do these investigations, right if you do right. Now, you're talking about thirty or forty people, and if you get a pattern of verbal abuse or things of that nature that's enough to cut ties sever ties with McRae. He had his best year by far of his tenure last year they were. Tournament. Ring store have been a second weekend team. Yeah. Stevens was a stud as a base. He's a good player I think the surprising thing to me was that seemed like this was all water under the bridge like light apologize he kinda got by the university. Rocher. Boldest moved on to Iowa state like clearly like you said, you should never say that like that is but I always got the feeling doing their games the guys in the team last year like that chambers. I'm surprised. Now I can see where coaches might be like man he has worn me out 'cause he's intense. Yes. He a little mice. He can be a little much. Yes, he is. He is bring the energy at shoot around at the game I'm sure their practices are off the chain. I can only imagine but I will say that like from being around fat I, Kinda thought that like the players like while they thought he was tough. Kind of they liked him I always got the feeling that they they lights. So I'm surprised you yeah. I. Agree with that. I've never been like. At. One of their shoot arounds I'm kind of I was satisfactory because he's one of the guys this leftover in the big ten from when I play why always enjoy talking to him and I get it that there's more allegations of this than yeah. Like Penn, state's got to do what they have to do but I was I was surprised with timing like he said in I just was surprised I'm surprised to hear you say that I would not have thought at least from the player standpoint. The day would have said you know that we don't like him or or the there was more but maybe we're not there Rodney wonder that comes out who knows what was what those allegations are. You wonder how much the past issues at Penn State contributed to this with Jerry Sandusky and all that you wonder if You think that their their school as a whole right now as. Sean anything exactly. That's a really good point. But but at the same time, compare that to Wichita state where it's like winning is good enough Penn State winning they're finally getting to the NCAA tournament there they win the nit three years ago like they've had some say they've had some pretty good success considering their history and they've had good players. They were talking contract with him. Rob They were he made one point one million which was by far the lowest. Aid Coach I would say that ten state. To me this job when Mitch, the Least Basketball in the conference Yup and what you're committing the least in a league with Michigan State in. Indiana Illinois. All these schools that are really really good. Steak likes good luck. He he had done a good job of building the program he'd gotten filling. Well he got he got a longer leash to rob. Let's face Muslim. He did you made it. Awesome. It's like planned blackjack with like forty bucks versus a thousand. Let you can. You can withstand the. Thousand Dollars. So he did he had he had some bad type states. Now I will say this my aunt and uncle live in stakeouts really I don't. I shouldn't say, I don't know how much they give me my uncle's a professor there i. don't know if they give the university, but they have courtside seats like off the floor at any other big ten school. That's reserve somebody who's given like six figures. Having to expect arm like they're it's somebody that's given big time cash. Yeah. They don't just GonNa. Guess they're not giving six figures maybe they are. Getting they're not even think about how robbed even right now they know pass chambers was fired after Losing Indiana and because my my aunt and uncle are pretty clued in like my aunts into the the basketball program. So I'm guessing yes but man when I was playing Penn State was hard to play out because there was like fifteen people there and we always played them over like Christmas breaks or president weekend. Where there'd be even less students. So you're in this arena that's really nice seats like sixteen thousand and like you can hear the eight kids behind the TV people screaming the whole time because that's all you can hear him the arena I mean, I've I have played there in some abysmal appetizers. Next week will go through. Maybe maybe we'll do a little hallmark. Next week will be come up with your top three candidates that you would hire to replace. Pat Chambers Penn State and that's your homework for next week. That's. Already got one but that's time I. WE'LL get off till next week I will try. All right. So the big thing, right? We Got College hoops starting up November twenty fifth. I'm trying to debate whether I'm going to go to Orlando maybe I'm GonNa go to Mohicans on placing blackjack also catch him games you're probably not the smartest thing to do to catch Kobe but you know who knows Son and not going to let you in. It's funny. So both have said digging GonNa let selected media in. Now, I don't know if I'll be allowed to go in like downstairs or you'll be upstairs and you can only zoom interviews afterwards, and if that's the case I don't think I'll go anyway. My point it all this is. It took a long time to get these. so-called bubbles in their novels. First of all, they are not bubbles by any stretch of the imagination. But it took a long time for the SPN and Mohegan. Sun To get a core group of teams that is sticking with going to those events. Okay and now rob their endanger fallen apart and the biggest issue right now, try to explain it simply the biggest issue is that teams. Majority of them are in the our in the SEC seem big twelve big twelve in SEC teams. If they had a player test positive in the past those players do not have to test again all season. Okay. So five months, six months whatever it needs to be. While you're big ten ACC other leagues including the Mohegan Sun Event, and Orlando will go by the CDC guidelines which are if you test positive, you have to test again after ninety days right? So. These schools like Baylor like a Texas tech who are coming to Mohegan Sun in Orlando are scared to go because they've had positive tests in the past and they're afraid if they come to Mohegan. Sun. And somebody tests positive. Again, they're shutdown for fourteen days can't play again. Right. That's the issue right now what air to things about that at all? I know that the they're like they're conferences that have a lot of money. There's to have some money. There's conference on a lot of money. But to me the NCAA needed to step in and be like this is the deal. This is what we doing. Why is it so hard? Why can't we do that? Like why can the NCAA is not be like listen I get it like Did we have. Very a very wide array of resources in terms of money but this is what it is like if you WanNa play this is what you have to do, and then we have to talk about this like so that's my first point my second point would be. Isn't it on these schools? This is a public health crisis like. We don't know if you can re catch the virus because it's only been around for like seven months, right? Or maybe a little longer than that now but to me. Wouldn't you be doing your players a disservice? Not just because maybe they'll get it maybe they'll get really sick yup. I kind of have an issue with that as well. No you are really putting your players out there and saying, we really don't care yet. We just want to play and win, and that's all that matters and I get it. That's kind of this. This this has been for a long time. But to me as a former player that is highly disappointing that they would not coaches and athletic directors and the civil a would not just be like look. We don't know if you re catch it because this is a brand new thing. So you have to retest them after ninety days even if they've had and then we wouldn't even have to talk about this and that's part of the problem. Right? Some people believe kids it doesn't matter right like the they're they're going to be fine. So why are we worried about this? Let's let's play ball like I talked to coaches all the time. It's funny. So I started doing you're GonNa get you're GONNA love this. I started yesterday for the hell of it. texting coaches twenty five guys that I knew well, not gonNA say who? on the record poll is tested on the record poll who are you voting for Trumper Biden? I wanted to see what the responses were. Big Helmet. So I of the twenty five, you guess take a guess how many even gave me a vote of the twenty five like like five algae say five didn't even get back to me. So twenty of them got back to me with a response of those twenty. How many do you think actually said on the record? Yes. This is who I'm voting for. Like two five. Yes. That's broken. All five or Biden. A really. Rely On. You. Think our get do think I would get one one coach to actually admit they're voting for trump on the record. No. Not One Not. Spicier that. Out of three hundred if I if I pulled three, hundred, fifty seven, do you think I'd get one? No because I think that. With, his policies I think that the kids recruiting already look in the I be like this is what I'm doing be tough, but it's funny. So so a lot of the coaches have told me I can't even say Biden. Like I have one coach. Tell me I re tweeted something. Stan van Gundy tweeted I. Don't know if you follow Sam ban on on twitter I. See every once in a while upset follow like the NBA he crushes trump crushes. So I have one coach of a power five conference say he tweeted something of? Of Standing, Gundy, that was anti trump and the next day he had a big donor column up lasting. Let that's probably the problem. Right? Because if you do that, you've got guys that a lot of money you are trump guys. are going to be. Mad. You do the other way you've got players who are coming from. Maybe, not always the best backgrounds and they're going to be like, why would I go play for this? Like he doesn't get what I'm going through. I guess getting back to my, where would be you'd be it'd be a tough position either way. Right your coach so most they're just. Sticking out of it. But when I talked to him, it's interesting. The difference of a lot of people some will say off the record that they're voting for trump. You can tell a lot of times who they are because a lot of them again or like listen I just WanNa I wanNA play basketball I just WANNA have basketball and I, think trump gives us the best chance to have a season an my take. As you said earlier is aren't we in it for the student welfare at the end of the day? How are you gonNA feel? If somebody luckily, we haven't had anything college football. We've been really fortunate. We have melted it. All it takes is one dude you and I are over you know maybe we're be overbearing here and and worrying too much I don't know but I honestly did think by this point with many college football games have been played up thought we'd be looking at something major that would happen. So thank God, we haven't in Navy again maybe kids wins. Size on the. Precipice of caution because the dies he's not coming back. And you're going to feel pretty Goddamn shitty. It took him out there when he had already tested positive and or he was in earn your school senior saying to his parents I'm going to take care of him and send him into adulthood with a degree and with the building blocks to be successful in now he's he's gone no question. No question. We got NFL, Football College football. You may not be at a game this year, but you can still be in on the action at met online NFL futures, Kansas City chiefs, still the favourite plus three seventy, five ravens plus six hundred seahawks plus seven hundred Tampa Bay plus thousand the packers plus twelve hundred in the Patriots falling quickly plus four thousand bet online is going the extra mile. To make sure you can get in on everything imaginable the season from game spreads and totals thirteen player and coaching props that unlike gives you options to wager than anyplace online. You can get in on their season opening bonuses today and start off wagering on win division and championship futures head to online today and take advantage of all the great sign up bonuses but online your online sportsbook experts. All right. Let's move onto a happier topic. I'm sure we'll talk we. We've talked negative look listen we've got Sean Miller. Here and so on. So Zona workday this is this is like rookie transition program where they. Raised the worst speaker, not not bad speakers but the most depressing speaker that's us that's rival right now author I nausea how he lost one hundred, million dollars in Chris Aaron how aid slade while high on drugs in the NBA and Jason Williams who killed his limo driver that's that's the type of space. This is what this odd. Awful. I gave you some homework. I gave you We're going to do a little like mock draft with with the NBA draft November Eighteenth Finally rapidly approaching. It's been a long time here. I. Gave You the homework. who would we take. For the top five picks in the draft if you are that team that general manager, who are you taking? So let's start with number one, your old team, the Minnesota Timberwolves around the clock I've cut around Rosen full circle on GM. Now I WANNA quack I really struggled with this issue. With. It if listen if you don't struggle something's wrong now I, know I I ended up going Anthony Edwards. Jesus I. Who would you? You got the Ngelo Russell Ari, they're gonNA take Lamelo ball and stick them together. Yes. Why? Well, because I think the Russel's more score than facilitator. Facilitator I'm not sold on the Lamelo Ball I'm not. Arbiters, Dad, it's like literally like. Seared into my brain that he is gonNA screw 'EM UP I. Don't I just he's already them up. He's already screwed him up but be not like you witnessed but I I wanNA, Anthony Edwards. Could your building crying towns you're building around Diangelo Russel? Yes. He's more of a score than point but I'm like at least you have a wing now. He came through here in Atlanta Yeah. He tested Petri around working out A. Years. Now, there might be some other stuff in I've heard as much hap-. At the end of the day, he has the highest ceiling because that dude walked in and he looked like a fricken middle linebacker university. No Clutch. is put together. The is blocked out I'm doing my work out. He was touching twelve eight on vert deal like that. He is a freak this. So I now I know you love the ball family but I I WANNA Anthony Edwards I'm going Lamelo I'm going Melanie. Lot. which is crazy. 'CAUSE I. Seen two years ago. I. Was like there's no way. This guy goes number one but honestly, I, think he's got a good shot number two golden state. They've also got a seventeen million dollar trade exception rob. To get established player if they record, I could totally see them like drafting somebody and dealing. But if we're not like taking that into account, I was I was between Danny diva from Israel mcabe and James Elisa. Wiseman gives them something that they've never had and I just man i. saw him play I was there for the game where he was like playing the not playing the core many showed up like it was total chaos it was awesome. But. I ended up going while is here. Because I'm like dude, he can protect the. Rim. You put him in pick and roll with staff and clay and lava. All my God. Did he's David Robinson body wise no you eat by won't be like skill. Wise. What he was telling he's more like an Andre, Drummond. Like from US skillset perspective right now. But man thing about that role into the rim when you've got staff coming off. Like that ad is that's terrifying. So they're going to keep the pick. I ended up going why because that? Me Too. For All the reasons you said, and then he gives them a big time rim-protector. And again, run the court and never really add like thinking about their centers cave on Looney Institute Even. mcnew winner I guess you're talking about dude, the race shocks your. Kid, to lay I, think draymond would be good because Momma probably get up on his ass a little bit and get them little tougher. So I yeah, I like that Art Charlotte. They got the number three pick they need everything other than a point guard. This is where I went. Lamelo. Your boy said that our. Got Dante Grant Got Zero Gier. They need a lot of parts. You still got like you know miles bridges is there PJ Loxton there but I just think you talk about his vision is passing he? He is elated that but this this did shoot across the jet. Left to right his hands on the side of the ball like. Mechanical issues there from his jump shot. It's not one of those deals where he's not making shots, but it looks good. It looks bad and it's not going I. Think is percents worsening Lonzo it's ernest evidence of. Twenty five from three like that's off talking about this he's to come up picking her. They're under and under every year go under the Fridolin like that's what they're gonNA. DO IS NBA they're not dumb like there's GonNa let him shoot so i. If he can if he can get that then that he's GonNa have a chance, but he's got a lot of work on a jumper. I agree I agree listen I. Tell everybody if the number one pick and it said it before and I don't want it. I want no part of the night we get. This is a terrible year to Carabobo year. Old. Torch No. I'm going OBI top and at three. I think he's yeah I just honestly I think people are sleeping on a little bit. He is wrinkly. Yeah I think he's the most pro ready guy totally but I think that they don't drive on. I driving the back of the candidates to end up being a star for us. It's the dumbest thing ever when people are like, well, he's twenty two but you're gonNA have to contracts at most is days it'll be what twenty eight. You're going to get him in his prime like He. He's a great. Adventure this was a twenty three year old drafty. Exit played for nine years in college Know it's tough. You get you get labeled into that and obviously top is a lot more athletic and a lot more healthy than I was but it's it's tough to overcome that as a senior I just think again, he's safer use safer pick. Anthony Ebbert. So I still got Anthony Edwards on my board right now number four. So Chicago Chicago four, I want Danny at. COBB I think he is a good fit for them. The other kind of Said, the Point Guard position with the with Thomas sat around ski in Kobe. Wide. Levin is your star the Frontcourt Scotsman pieces with with Markkanen who I think you hope Jim Bill gone like goes back to not being terrible again and then window car. So I think when you look at their need, he fits perfectly three kind of point forward that can bring it up. He's down there working out to do and he's a talented dude man he's all six nine weights offering. But yeah. Just the fact that he's played at the early level I think when you've done it there people don't understand that level of basketball is Dan near the NBA You don't have the athletes probably the NBA does, but the skill level it's they're like those teams you look at the Jessica's the Real Madrid's the macabre is the world like you've been seeing that she was sixteen years old. Yeah. So I think you see why Luca Danni and he's a great town like the I'm not saying to be Luga Luqa I think people slept on the fact that he was really player the year. That's that is an unbelievable achievement for anyone. If you're thirty nearly player of the year, you've you've done some some good things basketball is but I think Danny because of what he brings the table, he fits perfectly with the Bulls. So I won't have me too me too and having he pitch billy Donovan's offense to. Five Cleveland. They need. Almost everything I. Mean what thing they probably have our our young darts regards. Yeah he's standing. There has garland. So I, WANNA. I WANNA. Always stop. Oracle. He played a day in like his skill said I. Think it's GonNa be interesting to see because he can be so effective as a ticket talk guy obviously because the way shoots but also rolling to the basket and like short rolling. Thing about all the ways that he can get you in pick and roll. If you'RE GONNA hedge it, you can pick and pop up going to switch it. He can easily like he can. He can catch it back somebody down play out the does even short roll and handle it and make decisions like there's a lot of good things about ob topic can do. So I I do agree with you and I I would hate it Charlotte. At three I really I don't think that'd be like an egregious fit plus five men to you can play with a smaller. As even from when I was in the League I my last year was twenty, fourteen fifteen. The League was a lot bigger than like you had guys like Jason. Thompson playing the four Amir Williams playing the floor trying to rebound the four. When you're six eight to twenty you've got a mere Williams at six eleven to ninety, Crash Mad Grown man game, and now you've got you know draymond playing the five minutes nobody types you know. The thing is we don't have any great local scores in the league anymore all the fives are wising. Andre Drummond, their Jordan ramparts actors, numbers to who would you save the best guy in the league. At throwing the ball in the glock, it'd be like, go to work give us a basket. Boy. Is Probably Joel Embiid, but he's trying to. You Right. He doesn't want it. They're gonNA like, Akeem, allies you on post movie to death or shack just posed up in pushing the rim that doesn't exist because of. Until we get that again, the answer would have been Zach Randolph. Zeba was A. Monster on the block. But now we don't have a so we can easily qualify there's nobody I mean this honestly, you know who I thought would be that guy who hasn't turned into it as Jalil Okeafor. Yeah, he's the dinosaur. Eating is a dinosaur and that you gotTa have somebody that's really mobile that can run up and down guard picking and roll, but also get buckets on the block and so far we haven't seen that. So obviously, you know who I took at number five, right? For Cleveland. Who? Not Anthony Ebbers. Geez on my board. I'm not getting this kid. He's sit in the green room forever on your draft I'm taking Isaac Core. For. They need, Hey, who needs defense more than Cleveland? He's. Going to be the best defender drafts he talked about body. I'm Anthony Edwards is the core of us and of course, GonNa work his shots not gonna be great but I think he can be three in the guy who's just a great defender who will turn into a shooter because he'll work his ass off I went between honestly a coral and on Yakima Congo to be honest I think he's like one of the dudes accomplished some other dudes that he's totally flying under the radar people even college basketball fans do not. That's right. USC He stuck out there. They don't win much. You don't watch PAC twelve games. Nobody knows who he is the crazy part about this he and Lamelo on the same team Chino hills high school like their freshman year before. This lattimore was the coach. Dennis Latimore is I don't know Dennis Latimore started his career at Arizona I. Think he transferred maybe to Notre Dame. He became the coach of course. Lavar. Right away didn't like the way the offense was going to be designed he had never. Played a game. He already was getting fights with lattimore and he pulled that's when he pulled them. Yeah. Thank thank God Dad was normal. Ridiculous Star. Right now you're in your got a a very nice artwork behind you over there is that did you draw? At thing I could ask I'm Atlanta. I'm working out down here for the three hundred three stuff Olympics for two months just by this P. three places awesome. Gets famous for the one in Santa. Barbara the NBA. Embassy guys trailing out of there but they built like an east coast hub. So there's a lot of players here. There's a lot of guys who are working out. Might you go to the California on rob like the weather I mean the weather's probably good in Atlanta now though. I mean honestly it's eighty degrees every day. I've been shot like I'm from Chicago or the Skyline Area I skyro- now and I I had no idea that into November it's like sixty degrees down here. It's so much better. Now Pay Nice Trust me I'm in Boston Chicago Boston the same thing. I hate the snow at this point. So I, there may be a move in my future color Atlanta for. I'm close to trust me when my daughter gets to college a year and a half. A big decision to make where we're going we h staying here. I'll tell you that much now I hear. What we got the first Goodman podcast in the books again, make sure you subscribe. It's on the field of sixty network. You can follow us on twitter rob what's your twitter handle ragging on? Easy. Just yeah. Mine's Goodman hoops, and again, make sure you pay attention to the field of sixty eight. We're GONNA roll out a ton of good content over the next few weeks brand new pods coming to you eric even Dorf against Syracuse Dan. Dick out interviewing Adam Morrison. We've got everything that you're gonNA want coming here on the network and again Robin I will be back next week and hopefully it'll be a little bit lighter version is news I college hoops. We'll we'll get a gallon. We need some games we need some gain two. Games. Robbie safe down there and we'll talk next week. Sounds good too.

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Mornings with Keyshawn, LZ, & Travis (HR 2)

Mornings with Keyshawn, Jorge & LZ

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Mornings with Keyshawn, LZ, & Travis (HR 2)

"Oh, right. Friday. We don't in orange. Thanks to everybody who is out here this morning. We are packed grows ways to start your signal Demayo weekend. Perico in orange. Gotta started. I'm afraid of the answer. John. Seventy ruled very responsible seven AM. You guys ready? Those. Rose. You guys are slow ready did mind you gotta get on board. Drink in front of me. Let it sit there. We ready. We win. No, not feeling he his head center. Not show might not be all right over there. We might need a cyst load of key. What do you think he goes up? Travis we are at the city. The outlets of orange five freeway and city fifty seven Chapman. You'll king. Just wanted them things that didn't go down right now. Dow, right, but it's still there. Yup, come about. So you're not swallowing the tequila court. You know, what else is good at doing stuff? Rosh? What? And it's six fifty eight in the morning and Orange County. The top keys Doppler looks like fifty three cloudy outside its national lumpy rug day, national what not be wrong day lumpy rug. Like, you keys headline is presented by sprint. Tutzman went to. We're still radio. Keeping you live. Kakha doodle do. You don't wanna look my life. So yesterday, we were talking about the ocean Ryan everything in the ocean and the little seahorse right about this. And I said that this giant seahorses down below somewhere in the surface. Okay. Right. It's grown to a point. Where you didn't know we go now near in this really big. So it happened with a. Boy, looking shrimp like potato shrimp like creature eighteen inches. They said it's it looks like a trip creature roaming water, and where did they find this creature in the middle of the ocean? And you told me yesterday seahorses like this right shrimps are like that too. Right now, shrimp was eighteen inches. I understand. And then Holly got one down even bigger. But you realize it's eighteen inches eighteenth feet. Yeah. But there's probably one down there eighteen you don't know. What's at the bottom of the dam ocean? Shrimp, don't come up and bite. You. This enough of them. They do something gang up on. They might gang up on book. I think if somebody was getting eaten by a swarm of shrimp, it might not it might be just a deadly members shrimp like creature. They don't know exactly what it is. So if peaches you bite you and all of a sudden sums poisoning there. You're toast. Bacteria start to grow. And also, you talked to tell you stay planet ocean. If you want to so you rather not getting oh, I'm with you on the deadly animals on land and in the see, but I'm not afraid of shrimp and sea horses, and now you of a giant ill. Yeah. I don't like that. See that's the same. Because he'll is on the the one that they found in ocean was like the size of a book. It was huge. I'm gonna find it again. Sure. What's harder, you're gonna walk? It won't be like Keith Gustavo. Like, you won't be ocean explorer dingo England who still. If he goes pass my way some getting out. Walk out to get to the waste, and I'm done you travel. I mean, you know travel abroad, if you went down to the ocean, one time in a big man, I had a couple of cats with the what they call them harpoon. They was right there side by side with their little fin thing that you scuba diving gear. I felt good because it was their native land their country. They're from there under screw where you I was in Borbor or. Yeah. So they understood their country and everything that they were doing and and I'm fine. How much do you have to pay for the escort? And under the sea. It was I mean, it was a couple of hundred bucks. No it wasn't. It wasn't terrible. But you do that the things that actually do each. You'll never see common now was down there. Good fashion. I was good. I would say she redoing the Sierra listening ks PIN laws. So how did you feel when you shower with Warren fat? I mean, that's a creature a big creature and shower insight, and he don't give him children show in. You was okay with that. Now, we don't do talking in the shower. You don't talk. No talking to show. You wonder why way over here Travis? That next what about an egg on heart? So we got the rules for the shower. So you shower with more in his room with south. So so there's no talking to it. What about I contact? Can you make eye contact shower? Then I don't I don't look first of all attention who was making what I got in out shower. And that was it, I wouldn't know conversation. If to be laying good catch on. No doing it. Why are you so preoccupied with key shower routine because he showed with more men than anyone in this room? And I think it's fast. I agree. I think it's fascinating. That's not true. So if I had some so my backing, I left it, and I was getting you wouldn't listen I. At horry. Just I. Unbelievable, man. See what happened? You got the shot. And now he's now he's feeling it alert loose it. Yeah. Great great. All right. Lock it out. That was keys headline today. All right. Sodano? So he'll be here later 'cause we're here all day long. We're Ken Mason, an island noon to three and then Saddam show that gel and with Trudell Moore's force in show pre and post yet Kirk Rams. Yes. Jim. I actually really good. So hold on you give flipped now. You used to tell me like now, you don't like it any good. It's good when you talk. All right. All right. So Christian doctrines is the guy that is on trial for paying college basketball players. We talked about it yesterday key that Shawn Miller allegedly was playing paying the Andre eight and ten thousand dollars out enough. I agree with you. Doc was testifying yesterday. And he was asked whether or not he thought that paying players was criminal. And he said, no, you can't defraud a school. I don't even know how it's possible. It's ridiculous. You know? I simply put I agree. I we talked about a little bit yesterday. I don't know who got the raw end of the deal in this transaction beyond Remillard got some money where deandre eight and I should say the under eight and got some cousin probably. And maybe it's not as much as you could get on the open market. But it something he's getting ten thousand a month. Shawn Miller got the player that he wanted the university gets to have a marquee basketball team. They got the number one picking the draft. They got what they wanted the guy that was running this sports agency business was trying to get what he wants. He could get Eytan his client. Everybody got what they wanted. I don't understand where crime took place one it. It's a crime because it's against the law the law, meaning that the government saying you can't. In a fear with the US government properties state schools things of that nature, so falls under the FBI. Shit college kids be paid up some Lutely. Absolutely. It's not even a question at some point time. Yeah, they're gonna get around doing it. We don't know when they're going to do. They're all on happen. But the way they're doing it the way they're doing it makes it, okay? It makes it illegal. It makes it a legal for them because they're trying to benefit off of an amateur status as a professional so as professional status. So the agent the runner is paying a kid through the head coach to make that drought. So that they kinda stay separating half some space in between if it was just a coach paying player directly. It wouldn't be a criminal case that was their thing happened that Shawn Miller Andrea eight yes, but Chow millage not up for charges as a criminal case. It's the other guys for charges in a criminal case because they went from outside of the school to pay a guy, which then like I said early on is gets in the way of whatever. The government says the state rules are with the universities. If if that wasn't the case, then in only reason why. They're making it a federal cases because government funds are used to universities. They get certain grants whatever to run an operating the university. So that's the reason that they step in into say, oh, it's a federal case. It's been okay. Plus, I'm sure somebody in there is looking to be share for something somewhere. Some voting political thing going on there usually people are going to be put out because they didn't get their taste. They didn't get their taste along the way. But here's the thing. Does anybody think that players like the Andrea and players that are going to be the number one thing Zion? Williamson or you go to football. We're talking about to attack of Lopion the number one picking the draft next year at Alabama. And all the guys are going to be first round picks there and all these guys that are five star recruits going to this school or that school. They're getting paid. Anyway, somehow, someway, they're getting what you say to their families are getting money or an uncle or a cousin or an aunt or some-. Somebody's getting something that we just have to pretend that it's not happening is stupid too. To whole family move from Hawaii out Alabama. Think about right from Hawaii Hawaii loose Alabama, Alabama, right? Yeah. That's not for free. Bama. Of course. It's nothing free. But. Though, but throwing shade Nick Sabin specifically. It's college football. It's college by anybody that generates money SEC college football, because the pack twelve don't really. Best around like, no, I'm not. Have the Pac twelve packs will. They are not into pain players in football. They're just not they're not in a pink players. Probably why they don't make the college football playoff. Probably true. Yeah. They're just for whatever reason everything is on the up and up on the Pac twelve. Like really believe that where's Reggie Bush right now. But that dad nothing to do you got to understand the case it had nothing to do with the university. Do something out marketing agent that funneled the money to Reggie's family care, and he didn't get his money back. So they. A whistle blower. Sadat on. I'm me Jeeva. But is it true, though, we have an extra cheese when Sodano shows the extra who cheese case. Thank you. Casey. I gotta write that. Yeah. Case we need a chief us on. I just find you can think that the pact. Will I think the reason Seasprite better at it? Maybe they have telling you gotta believe me on this one the Pac twelve give nothing in football. They're not giving anything I'm a living witness nothing. Giving you one rid center saying, but in the university, someone's the second always always talking about the university. I'm not talking about. I'm not talking about the answer. Larry people. Okay. Then she could be. You can be good. That's a good one. You. Montana is looking out for players. Yes. But but it's nothing. Okay. She on minimum maybe organ in Washington, SC and UCLA aren't funneling the money directly. But somebody that is in operating in Oregon and Washington UCLA Essy's best interest is getting. Guys getting money to wear. I got a guy. I got a guy. Go see guy. He'll he'll take care of. Yeah. Absolutely. And the whole point is the money's getting where it needs to go. The money's getting to where the guys want to get it to we're still pretending to do this silly thing. Go see go. See Tommy down at the dealership. He's got some for. He's got some for. He's got a package need pick. Well, next, you guys wanna see key take it or shake it. Shit. On. Come on, Janice. That is coming here. Thereto in orange. Hang out with us. We are here all day long. All that's coming up next. This show of the people is with the people this morning in orange at El Torito. That's right Travis whereas Jorges, where's he gone to the restaurant? Where are you? Oh. Uh-huh. I think hor he's got went to the deep the restaurant. That's okay. You know, key these pictures that we brought you're making a US skinny feature. Oh, happy. He tried to get you back off as well. How many years ago was this? Let's turn on your mic last year. No it wasn't. Last year win. No. It was the last time. I was just going to say where do we have to go to get you dressed like that today you or your PJ's because there's nothing I mean, I'm here. It's more than time. We women. You really shouldn't touch people like that. Well, there's much airs too much going on in the world for you to be doing stuff. Right. That's because he likes to take. It are shaking. This could get interesting. We've got a room. Shake it. So this'll be good. Let's start with the Zona cardinals key general manager Steve kind says that Kyla Murray will start the season opener for the cardinals take it or shake it gotta shake. At the same time. At the same time. When you draft a guy, I overall you have no other option on the bench. You would look like a damn fool not to start him play. Whoever Brett Huntley. I mean, come seriously, you there's no major veteran behind Kyla Murray in this was set up this way on purpose. So the kinda Mary could be inserted into the lineup. Usually when you draft a young quarterback. You have a veteran widely guide here to be up. Teach him showing some in that certainly would be bread Hon. I get Brett Hundley not that guy. But the run the risk you run key. And I wonder is you go back to David car with the Houston Texans a million years ago where he was the number one pick overall and they put him behind a terrible offense of line on a terrible team and got his brains beaten in and he was never the same ever again to you. I understand that Hunley better to beat up Brett Hundley on a bad team beat up column Murray. Yeah. But it's even though you're as a rookie, you're gonna take your lumps. You don't have to fold your tent though. And I think we look at car situation. He got spooked over time of getting hit. He thought he saw something that wasn't there. And kinda Murray is young guy who seems a little feisty to me seems like a guy who understands not to worry about the way he's going to be perceived. If things get off to a bad start. He's gotta just keep humping along the way. But they had no real other choice, but to do it. No. They gotta do it. All right. So the next one and this one goes with the Rams key. Are they getting ready for life without Todd Gurley? Take it or shake it. They're getting ready for post girly already shake. Chore? Getting ready to move on from Todd Gurley. They draft hinder sonata miss MiFID. But that doesn't that's a backup role. There's nothing. There's nothing there. There's nobody on there. He's he does not threatened by them drafting a guy threatened by key. I just wonder again, and until I see him look like the girl we saw the first fourteen weeks of the season, I'm worried because you go back to the end of the season you go back to the NFC championship game. You go to the Super Bowl Todd Gurley was not Todd Gurley. That was some guy wearing number thirty. But that wasn't girly. No it wasn't. It wasn't girly at off. When you look at him throughout the course of the season in Dallas game, the long run. He showed a little bit of birth at the end. But Dan, never really got going again throughout the playoffs. He kinda was just there. He had a couple little runs. We okay. But obviously something was bothering him will never really truly know unless we get a sidebar with them because the Rams are gonna say anything they're not going to say anything. And maybe we'll never truly know keep it. I wonder if we get into week seven or eight and he's played a handful of games and the games that he plays are ineffective. If you don't he nobody has to say anything at that point. We just know you will know and you'll know here in June when they go to mini camps. You'll be able to tell when he's out there, and they get a little Biro footage. You be able to walk around. You'll be able to understand if he's limping you'll be able to see it. All right, next one. Let's go to the idea of changing the overtime rule. Stephen Jones from the Cowboys supports changing the rose every time. There's an issue in overtime. We talk about wanting to change this stuff. We saw New England and Kansas City last year in the AFC championship chartered. The chiefs never got their hands on the ball. New England winds they go to Super Bowl. They win the Super Bowl take it or shake it changing the overtime rules. But will they change it to I give both teams chance take it or shake? Take it. Thank you. I'll have the opportunity it affair shared and move up and down the field to see where say if you score three. I'll get an opportunity to go. If you score seven I get an opportunity to go forever like college. No. Eventual somebody's not going to match. It's not gonna take a long time. Why not because you look at it? For instance, there's gonna you're gonna get a stop. You. Don't go. Touchdown touchdown touchdown touch less. Let's play a football game. But both offenses get to touch the ball. Even if it's a touchy. I just don't want it like college goes forever or think about what happened last year, Patrick Mahomes, who's the MVP the league through from nine hundred shied away going to never got a chance to touch the ball. That's not right. Should a call. Techy? We can always go with. If Pat Mahomes reached out to me, and they did out ahead to tape on the on the like point frogger. Yeah. The tape on the coin that they use and throw it up. Yank. Right next one to attack all the quarterback for Alabama is as of right now as we sit here on may third, which doesn't mean a whole hell of a lot. But he's projected to be the number one pick. If you're one of the teams that's projected to not be. Tanking for to take it or shake sake. Take four guy in football. Because there's no telling how this thing ends to get hurt to a may have a bad season. Anything can happen in your relying to be the number one overall pick you have in broken down any film or always tell you coaches haven't seen him play it only people Seaney player scouts scouts. Don't make the determining factor who gets drafty. They compile information. Give it to the personnel. People personnel. People make that decision, but they haven't had an opportunity as a staff off into coordinators head coaches to even see to a plate live. They haven't seen to spin out the football. They don't know when you get into the off-season you get into the early Januaries or better yet after the combine you get the private workouts going. This is win quarterbacks in per in press coaches much. Kyla Mary did with cliff Kingsbury in Stephen condo. They fell in love with him. Anyway. But that's you know, it's fast. What it is. If you get Zion. Williamson. You got a chance to go from terrible to pretty good. But I know Diane is though because I'm watching him on the court in football, Alabama is so successful. They got six potential first round picks right now they mock drafts. But they're so successful with all their talent. You don't really know. What it is. It's like the USC everybody. Oh, USC USC will. Yeah. You would be very good. If I was playing alongside this guy this guy, this guy this guy this guy. Oh, yeah line. And I'm spitting a ball out. You're gonna look good. I mean, that's just what you're going to be John David booty. And look like, okay. He might be real good pro football prospect looked like it looked like a dry d look by. Workout is is the very quickly. The last one two hundred players have announced that they're going to boycott the women's professional Hockey League. If they don't get a subsidy of the NHL, take it or shake it. Wait what? Does the women's Hockey League? You didn't know they're not gonna play if the NHL doesn't start giving them money. Yeah. Due to the quit with wait. What was shaken? The same answer I want everybody get fair shake at the end of the day, shake it again, you gotta earn your shake. You can't just ask for that. That's going to work. It's not gonna work Johnny boy is added again. What is he doing with the raiders? We are here at El Torito, orange that show the people with the people come on out drink specials. There's food coming up next. We are here at ill Carino in orange his APS STA Friday. Thanks, everybody. Who is coming out? We're gonna be here all day long. Yeah. The birthday you got this one key. No, neither do I. Come out guys. Really? I know this one Frank. 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All they are the Friday is presented by the all new to cut a platinum but beer for the boldness. I've been opened up right now gonna open up right now on the crack crack shocking. He messed up the reader jogging ki did you like Greece the movie? Yeah. That was young. I hated it. Chris was all right. Then that's not true. Greece in the drive here. Yeah. But I was young. Or in the Trump? Now, we didn't put us in the truck Maxine under- a blanket of backseat under the blink. Yeah. The two ways. The two ways. Now, they went witness in LA. They I went in the trunk. Yard. Talking about movies. All right. We're talking about tease. To try to Karl Joseph key raider safety was expected to have his fifth year option picked up Jon Gruden was talking him up about how much he liked him. And Johnny boy did what he does. He says one thing he doesn't another the curl Joseph is not going to have his option picked up. This is another example, your guy doing what he does just the death for the moment that Gruden geese and kudos watch out. Right in the back. Just what he does in. Why this? Who is he's just that's who he is. I mean, coach grew is is a guy who, you know, perfect situation in Tampa comes in does just enough in time when we was elevating our play. Anyway, gets us over the hump. We played a raiders we'd beat them in the Super Bowl. And then everybody thinks oh, he's a great. You know, he's the guy. He's the guy we fire we fire rich McKay. And then the next thing we go on in the team is totally different drafted different type of players getting rid of the players the veteran guys that was there. That's how John runs in organizes a team. He doesn't want anybody to be bigger than him. He don't want anybody to get in the way of what he's trying to do. And that's I mean, you saw draft you saw the draft. I mean the draft was his draft. If after he has his fingerprints all the this is the part. I don't get though that players key. You can't be the only guy that knows what he is. Does the entire league does every player in that raider locker room know what he is? Oh that that's how he rolls that. He's saying one thing and doing another or their guys in there that are buying in his act. No, they start to you. You buy in the beginning. Medine the color start to show, and you start to understand who we really truly is. You gotta let you gotta let him get there though. Because if you if you are a middle of the row player that's running around snitching on everybody else in locker room. He's gonna patch on the back of these like you because you give him information from the locker room Marcellus Wiley. He like you. But if you're a guy that you're going to be able to sniff those guys out you're going to know, which is are running it upstairs. You're going to know for sure for sure, but you don't know what they run upstairs, you just know gonna watch you know, when somebody walks in the room to get real, quiet, right? Change the subject, right? Real quick. Oh, man. Lisa down allure, Sodano preoccupation. Chris is something else. I mean, I'm glad it worked out the way yesterday. He was impersonate me at my blue reads should've chewed into it by the chew wouldn't do it. I'm glad it worked out the way that it did. Worked out for everybody. Yeah. Worked off everyone. Yeah. I just don't get into work. Happy in the morning. Good deal. It is a good deal. The Lakers need a head coach. And there's somebody that might be the ultimate decision maker. We are here at L thereto the show. The people is out with the people in orange coming out spend the morning with the state is gonna be here all day. Long. That's coming up next. Hey. L thereto in orange coming out. Get your Cinco de Maya weekend started the right way. There are all sorts of special got two days for fine. Or for four dollars. So come on out and start your weekend with us. Absolutely. Look at all these beautiful people with their teachers. What are we at Miami? Oh, what's her name? Ingle of TOTO. Would you get for us today? Well, we. Denting Mexican breath today, we have a Mexican potatoes. My Chaka, we'll CI l'aquila's bacon choice. Oh, and also we have menudo. Best for. You're welcome. And I'll see you sell total. The nudo. Yeah. Good hangover cure. My mom. I just I like to pick the corn out. The big could go into the peace corps in the Minu fissile go to this. When you got a hangover you need that works. Absolutely. We're gonna get some of this, Karnataka sliders. Okay. Let's do that. Read happy hours may confront made from scratch daily everyday. They started three PM today here. It's all day long. So come on. We're here the stations here all day as well. All right key. So the Lakers have some holes to fill. They've gotta get an executive what they've gotta get a general manager. Maybe they've got to get a team president. Maybe we'll see where rob fills in those jobs. Maybe he keeps them both. Maybe he doesn't. But they need a head coach as well. Here's Eidan which rouse gave talking about the Lakers coaching. Those are the two candidates at the Lakers are planning to choose from to make an offer to there are so many people in that Laker organization involved in this decision making process from ownership into senior management general manager, rob Pelinka, and there are cases being made on both sides for Tyler. And for Monty Williams. I think the sense in LA is I Lou will take that job if offered but Monty Williams they're in a bit of competition with the sons. He will seriously consider that job liquor fans may not wanna hear that they have to compete with Phoenix organization into disrepair that it is. But they're going to have to compete for Monty Williams. They have to compete with the Phoenix Suns for anything is a little alarming that I mean. We've entered a whole new world where somebody can look at two different jobs in one is the Phoenix Suns in one is the Lakers. And the sun's actually have a decent case. Well, the Lakers job is just a hard job. It's not an easy job. Because the Brian James is sitting there, then you get LeBron James. And you assume that they're going to go out and get a second guy this beast, whether it's a Kawai Leonard or Trey for Dame litter, whoever that star may be you've got to deal with that. So you know, when you look at job just like, you know, Laker job is rich in history. And it's in all the great things. But do you really want that stress level because you know, what it is? It's win right now. It's this is what it is in Phoenix. You can kind of lay low chill out build it much. Like, let's. Philly like Boston. Like Brad Stevens, you could build like that. You know, you build like Philly, you can do both of those things and you could sit tight if you if you take the Laker job you pretty much. Pretty much. You got two and a half years at the most. Yeah, you got it doesn't to have years to get something done L. She going to be walking. Here's the difference. And it's as simple as the opening press conference for both of these jobs. If you get hired to be the head coach of the Phoenix Suns your press conference is to have questions like how long's it gonna take for you guys to get to the playoffs? What do you think about the under eight, and what are you going to do with that number or that that first round draft pick when we know which part of the town or you're gonna live in you show up at the Lakers press conference. The first question is you're gonna get LeBron championship before he retires or you're going to be able to beat the warriors next year. Are you going to be able to do what you haven't been able to do in six years, you can get the Lakers back to the glory where they're competing for? It's tight Lou. Will you let the brawn James call place. Right, right. Does. He have the free time out at anytime. Go back to LeBron's last year in Cleveland key Tyler ended up in the hospital. He did know. But was it was it just a funny because I don't want people to contribute. The bronze to him ended up in hospital polls to they definitely could be connected. No. But you almost saw you know, it's not. You know, it's not the shoe being. Hills issues in the stress of being in the environment. Yes, you know, coaching coaching stressful situation. That's where the Lakers. Yeah. The Lakers are a totally different dynamics. Which brings you back to the LeBron piece of this whole his perfect tie. Ludo? You come vacation with three years, you straight. Get a check for three years on vacation get to the playoffs finals, whatever the case may be you're fine. What we're another. If you a new has no real background relationship with LeBron's that could be a tough situation on your entire you think they got this lined up. You think they got back pocket that whether it's rob or Jean whoever else is saying we're gonna hire this guy. Whether it's money Williams or tied Lou that they've got it figured out that they've got the executive that they want. It's all done. They're just waiting for the moment to announce all the stuff or they sitting there to hear rotel it. They're sitting there half the rooms for half the rooms for money Williams. And they haven't figured out what they wanted not think I think is pretty much done. And I think it'd be tie and an executive from somewhere tile Beedi coaching executive from somewhere. Come in. In one of those two semi vacant positions. So why not here, then if it's tied Lucas this member when they hired Barnes got last time, and it didn't work out, and they interviewed Byron it was something different times and the kit bringing you could tell that the Lakers were not reluctant to do it. But maybe he wasn't their first choice in the kept putting it back. Putting it back. Putting it back. If Tyler is the guy they want. Why isn't it done right now because as head coach you've gotta get you've gotta get assistant coaches on board. You've got to have conversations which are staff to try to figure out guys a waiting on the next job to feel like a guy like Bichon. Who is a good friend of Tyler who was a assistant coach with the Lakers is he going to Sacramento or see waiting to see what? Ty gonna do and stay in LA. So you got all those different dynamics going around right now. How about this tweet from Jeanie Buss last night with her and magic at a dinner the two of them sitting in a table. Looking like, you know, best friends like they've been for thirty years. Yeah. Like that. I don't dislike it. I just don't really believe it. No, no. No. No, no, no. At the end of the day. Something was said we've talked about before. No, we're that something came from. We'll never know right now until gets written in the book, but magic certainly felt the need to drop the bomb on him when he walked into that presser, and whether it was Jeanie debt had emails kind of leaked out there or whether it just happened to be in bad Email inbox because he got there from some other sorts one of two things happened. She either was part of sabotaging him or didn't defend him. When someone else was trying to sabotage thinking more on the defense. I you remember the song we play. Over here on the radio. They'll work. Are they? Is taking on water dinner last night. So it's okay. It's all gonna be okay. Don't worry. So as magic hanging off the side of the door in this. Allergy that we're talking about. I I get it. They've known each other for thirty years. They've had a great relationship thirty years. Magic is basically a member of the bus family at this point. Sorry. But I I don't know man that the way that it ended and again magic fast Ford in the moment, it looked like magic and really screwed that up the way that he quit the way that the whole thing went down because people awaiting the pound for sure for sure, of course. But it also even if people were waiting to pounce on him. He gave him a really good reason to pounce high. Did the press convert exactly but you fast forward a couple of weeks? And all of a sudden, you're looking at it. There's remember a rat. Remember what say when he did the press conference? I said he likes them. So there listen, right? We just did to what it was. And then all of a sudden it came out a couple of days later, it was the Email that was passed along and somehow got in his inbox. His when Jim bus was a part of the mix after Jerry Buss died in genie. Jim we're kinda sharing the the controls of the Lakers in all of the he. Eat went. When things weren't working all of the heat went towards Jim Jeannie finally got rid of him. Got rid of Mitch Cup chat. Kind of got rid of that last old guard a bunch of PR guys and everything kind of went out and okay, fine. We're back to it. Now. Really? I mean, not not much has changed. It's about the same. As it was they got some cap space. Maybe magic better. It's a lot better one about same amount of games. Yeah. But but the, but the reason they struggled this year. And we all know that the injuries caught up to I don't wanna hear the estate in surround the brownwood shooters scoring what part of the problem. They just got injured at the wrong time in from there. The trade rumors came in the little puppies couldn't figure out what to. Little could figure out void not pay attention to it. It just play basketball. They got so caught up in consume with having being shopped to another team and having a move to another city. That's the basketball, but the front office situation is chaotic as it's been a really all right or the Rams preparing for life without Todd Gurley. Plus, you know, what's next? Oh, yeah. Shots. I don't have it. Four shots. The shot coming up work good at El Torito in the show of the people is with the people who'd be here all day long shot shot chart that's coming up next.

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"The Paul finebaum show podcast has been brought to you by the Capital One sabre card earned four percent cash. Back on dining and entertainment two percent of grocery stores and one percent on all other purchases. Now when you go out you cash in what's in your wallet terms apply. Cried passion and patterns re of college football leaves here is the Paul finebaum show. Our one podcast. We will get this show rolling. Some big news from Baton Rouge. Have you heard not a surprise maybe a week or two ago would have been but Scott Woodward? LSU graduate grew up in Baton Rouge. But hired two of the biggest coaches in Texas. Am history. Introduce earlier. On campus. Let me be clear in very clear, I'm not solely backing Dallas shoe because it's my alma mater did not return because this is home to me in my entire multi generational family. And I'm not in. I did not come back because of the pull of any one individual. I am at LSU because I believe in who we are and what we can accomplish together, and I stress together. And because LSU means so much to me in a means so much to many people here in this. Great state. Some very interesting comments there about why he returned LSU certainly some people in college station none-too-happy it was under three weeks ago when he introduced buzz Williams to great applause and great praise as Texas AM's new basketball coach, but he returned in the heat of the night rather stealth hiring. And we'll. Talk to Scott Woodward coming up here momentarily. Meanwhile, great Sankey Commissioner of the SEC new in the news in an interview yesterday. Sankey is still not sure if the transfer portal is a net positive when I'm concerned about is that we're like seeking reasons whether there's a transfer role or not we all should know the same information to be able to make decisions. We assume the movement the freedom is healthy. I think we need to track the day to see when young people move from campus to campus. Be for whatever reason are we assessing the right educational outcomes. Forgot there is an educational component to all this. Anyway, I think it depends on the situation there Commissioner if we're talking grad graduate transfers than I think the educational part of the equation has been satisfied for others. Yes. Our players just leaving school for better opportunity. Of course, they are. Let's let's be honest here. No one's. Justin, fields, not Georgia. Because he said, you know, what I think I'm going to Ohio State because I like the curriculum better. Jalen hurts and go to Oklahoma Oklahoma's your graduate transfer because she thought maybe I'll get a better education and Oklahoma considering he already had his degree at Alabama these are pure athletic decisions, and let's quit acting like they're anything. But. This is what's coming up on the program today. Scott Woodward, the athletic director at LSU. That coming up here in just mere minutes. And then the react to that from one of the leading talk show host in Louisiana. Matt Muskoka from ESPN Baton Rouge earth. Smith junior. He went to Alabama and did quite well, he's expected to cash in big in John senior who did one of the interviews with Gregg Sankey yesterday was part of that conversation when thank he talked openly on on a myriad of subjects, including we'll wait that will certainly be a conversation. We have with Scott Woodward about we'll wage future as there are continuing explosions and headlines coming out of this case in New York. No will Wade no Shawn Miller, but football was mentioned for the first time today, and we will talk about what was said. And by whom coming up here in just a couple of minutes. Eight five five to four to seven to eight five that is the number to get in to talk to us. Let's check out, Dan. I in Louisiana. How are you? Dan, paul. Thanks as always thank you kind of like a done not to smart about the whirlwind situation. I wanted him to be fired. Awhile back. But you know, if you've talked to Scott Woodward, you know, I'll I hope he ask him, you know, and tell him, you know, we need a total tracks fair see transparency, you know, to make an informed decision about all of it seemed like the bullet principals to judge FBI LSU and will Wade. You know, just need to. Have transparency. Well, listen, Scott Woodward. I'm sure has already said, and we'll say here today that he will look into it. I mean, there's nothing he can say right now, he he doesn't have all the facts, I wouldn't buy long-term stock, and we'll wait I think he is damaged goods LSU fans may be happy that he's back at least some of them. But I mean, he got battered during this process, and the fact that he hasn't talked since he was reinstated and probably is being prohibited. From talking makes things even worse. I mean, if we saw if we if we saw him heard him, maybe we could believe one thing he says, but right now, I don't think he has any credibility to you know. No, I don't see why the FBI chose to protect him from, you know, testify. Well, I don't know if there's so much the FBI is that the federal what was he in? Well, he and Shawn Miller had to say in this case was fascinating to you. And me, it may not have been germane to what was on trial there in New York. And I think you know, judges and lawyers especially judges, you know, trying to keep the facts of the case pertinent to to what's being adjudicated versus just turning it into a three ring circus, which it already is. But it would have been much more. If Wade had testified. Thanks so much. Thank you, my sense of it right to have you on. Appreciate it. Don't forget Scott Woodward who is now will ways boss, we'll Wade's happy about that. Will join us here in a moment. Mark is up next. Hey, Mark hateful. Wanted to get some insight on some would this transfer portal. He'll hurt leaving going Oklahoma and field going on up to while state. Yeah. Would just Tommy Stevens thing coming out and morehead had him under his control for two years when he was up there the offensive coordinator for Penn State. You know, he's not saying he's in a goes here. But he's not going to say anything until after he gets his degree in mate. What do you think the chance to be mended up Mississippi State on? Yeah. I I don't know the answer to that. I would think pretty good. Listen, I wanna make it clear the graduate transfer portal Certa speak is different than just to transfer portal. I mean, if you graduate you should have the right to go wherever you want. I mean you've earned that you can dispute whether it's a good idea or not. But I think it's a great idea you serve your four years. You get a degree. That's why you're supposed to be going to college. And I think that's what the Commissioner was insinuate. But. I the most of the conversation is about the normal portal where everybody throws her name in there because they get beat out of a job e may not like it. But. What's wrong with it? There's no there's no rule that says a coach can't leave point eight to point d and I just think he gives the the athletes some freedom, which in my mind, they're entitled to appreciate your call very much a good to hear good to hear from you. Logan is up next in Alabama. Hello, logan. Go right ahead. Thank you taking my call today. Oh, I was going to act you have you happen to see the new thirty for thirty on the on junior. Ceo yet. No, I haven't seen a thirty for thirty in some time. Okay. Well, I was just wanting to really get the what your opinion is on the whole concussion settlement. And you know, how it is changing the game of football. And how it will continue to evolve as we to your more out about what what was your takeaway? I'm interested. Well, they up up. I've had my fair she's with concussion. So I like I try to relate to that as much as I can. But of course, those guys what they go for their careers with the numerous hit it, it's on a different level. But I think it is something that does need to be discussed with everybody with parents with future athletes. I think it's something that needs to be always about a lot. Well, I I do believe without having seen the junior CEOs documentary. But knowing the story that is the biggest issue going right now. It was the biggest issue in the NFL. It has not quite reached the level in college athletics. But I think I think the day is coming very very soon. Hey, thank you very much for the call. Appreciate it. Matt is up next. How you doing today? My friends what I've met much although and talked about a new athletic director. And we're not yet there director the temporary one ARCHE so come. Yeah. I think they should make in the permanent Arthur director. I mean who else can you find as an Aggie men, but are quite long? Why why why would you do that? Matt. Well, aren't you soak is a good guy in who knows you're gonna find you represent the values that they name Varkey soak them, and I don't think you could find maybe an director be one at Clemson. Here is. Think there's quite a bit of momentum for our see. And I don't know sometimes if you don't have a clear choice, and sometimes you don't I mean, you get four candidates, and you look at them, and you go, you know, what none of them are any good. I kind of feel that way about the NFL draft. I've looked at the list today with some people, and there's nobody I have to have. So maybe our see is the best choice for now. And you you you limit it to to two or three years. And and you you hope that someone emerges maybe someone on the staff, maybe someone in another position, you you really never know. But but I I I know where you're coming from. I think it's a fair point. Let's take a break. More to come on the program, including a conversation with the new athletic director at LSU, the X from am still hard to get used to seeing Scott Woodward and LSU. Used to be there. He's air again. And he's coming up next. You're listening to the Paul finebaum show podcast. And we welcome you back. We are glad to welcome to our program, the brand new athletic director, see if I get this right at LSU joined his few weeks ago from somewhere else. But first of all Scott ward. We're thanks for being here. Congratulations. I know. This is a very special time for you. Thanks for having me, Paul. So. Let's start with the obvious. We spoke to you. If you weeks ago from college station since then much has happened. Tell us about your life the last couple of weeks. Yeah. It's been crazy. It's been it's been a world. When I is you we talked awful lot and Paul. A very very difficult decision. They have a very very close group of friends that I made in a hurry. And and college station and Aggie lands, a wonderful place and always have a special place in my heart. And I have like I said some very close friends that that that that very difficult to say goodbye to everyone knows your roots are in Baton Rouge. It's where you grew up where you went to school, and it's understandable. But, but it's also I'm sure an awkward situation in many ways having to leave behind so much good work that you've done and and take over under less than perfect circumstances. Yeah. It's always a challenge, you know, Paul. But you know, there there is great opportunity in there a lot of very very good things going on and and in Baton Rouge in and I couldn't be more excited. But yeah, exactly. I mean the same transition from. Friends in Seattle to to college station. It's difficult in they are hard decisions. But I'm really looking forward to the challenges, and what we have here at LSU growing up their selling peanuts at tiger stadium working there. Did you ever think about hey, I may come back here one day athletic director and never did Paula? I mean, of course, you know, I it's it's something that I've had moments of time. But you just never know how things come and go, and frankly, I was building my dream home station. I've had my poor wife and a rental house for fifteen years now twelve and Seattle in three in college station where we're getting ready to move in. Frankly, in may, so you know, really know, but you know, it's always something in the back of your mind that could be special, but certainly not not this goal in life where I want to do this. It's just it was very our gang. And that's how how I live. Hopefully, can they pick it up and move it to. I wish but I couldn't afford it. Probably. Well, the realtors in college station to deal with that and Baton Rouge. But, but I I do want to ask you about leaving there because we were here not long ago talking about your latest higher, and I think I joined many around the country who have praised you as one of the truly pioneer athletic directors who made to the best hires. We've seen in a long time. I know you have to have some mixed feelings leaving those two gentlemen and many others behind. Yeah. Paul no question about it. They were hard conversations, you know, buzz, and I don't know each other quite as well as JIMBO and I, but they were understanding and in the end got it. But you know, that's the one thing, you know, that promised when I came into the job in college station is a promise of folks that I would leave the place better than I found it. And hopefully, I did and and hopefully they'll. They'll they'll be well for for most days out of that your except when they play the Tigers was was this something, I'm assuming I know the answer. But I'll ask it. Anyway, it was just something that came about fairly quickly. Yes, it did. Paul. I it was it was in a flash. And you know, had a lot of hard hard conversations and a lot of hard thinking to do in a hurry because you know, it's just not much style to drag things out or leverage things when it comes to me, personally and. You know, I made a decision with my wife, and my two boys, and and and did it, and that's that's how I like to do it. Frankly, I'm assuming since you took the job they were on board. I'm sorry. I'm assuming since you took the job they were all on board with. Yes. Oh, yes. They were. They were asked a lot of questions, but they were on board. I know you've been asking a lot of questions already since you landed. But I think the most pressing seems to be about the basketball coach will wait everyone knows the back story. No one really knows where it's going from here. So maybe you can lightness. Yeah. Unfortunately, I can't because I don't know you probably know more than I do. But I'll be briefed on it in a hurry. And you know, I'm one hundred percent behind coach Wade, and he's our coach tilles not. And and when we get the facts and see where they stand the facts won't lie. And that's that's how I approach them. And that's how I feel about it. I I know that this is an easy question to answer but decisions like that to the ultimately lie with you. You know, the they do, but they become bigger than you. And there's a lot of collaboration. I worked for president and have a board. And and you do these big decisions collaboratively fall. You know, how I operate, and you and I've discussed it a lot of times. But. They do become bigger than you. But in the end, you get to where I've never been in a position where I've had a had a decision that wasn't that wasn't collaborative in. We'll do that again. On coach you're on. Ed, always Ron certainly he's coming off of a huge year expectations are high, but people always like to point to athletic directors, not specifically you, but but all all on new athletic directors as wanting to have their own men in there. So that leads me to the question about what is his future? Look like. Yeah, it's could I couldn't be more excited in excellent job. Coach owes you Ron's done. I looked at it from obviously a few hundred miles away from from college station. He's done a fabulous job. And I'll look forward to to get in behind him and helping him do what I know how to do. And and help LSU be great and do even greater things. And I cannot wait for that process. Because there's no sense of ownership with me. It's all about who's the LSU coach and what I can do to get a thousand percent behind them sky. You mentioned being. Involved often, if not always it was collaborative efforts. And I think that's the way most athletic directors operate. However, I bring this up because in recent years there have been several well-publicized incidences where we're LSU seemed to be in its its own world its own its own feifdom some somewhat separate from the other thirteen members of the SEC. I'm not asking you to come with any degree of specificity on that because you were somewhere else. But, but we're we're does L asks you fit into the SEC ecosystem. I hope I hope in a good space Paul, and that that begins with Commissioner Sankey, and and and Mark Emmett the two leaders of organizations and governess as well as relations with everyone in between in those organizations with you and the SEC network and how we do things. And hey, I hope my actions have spoken louder than my words, Paul and that you can. Expect going forward. So and they have I'm interested in now because this has been a very quick turnaround. And you have unfinished business in in college station. What what what Scott Woodward's life light for the next few days if not weeks? Yeah. It's it's drinking through a fire hose, and even though I know the terrain here, and I don't need directions. It's still I need to get to meet a lot of new people all been gone fifteen years, and there's a generation of Tigers at I'm looking forward to engage and get to know. Finally, I mean, there are a lot of cliches that have gone on in history about momma calling and being home. But what does it feel like even though it's your only there temporarily until you can move. What's it feel like to be back in bed Rouge? Yeah. You know, like I said I in my comments, I said Thomas Wolf says you can never go home again. They've never been to Baton Rouge and you have on a Saturday night. And there's nothing like the passion. There's nothing like the spirit, and there's nothing like the love that this state and the the alums half of this institution. It's it's quite special is a great student of literature. So great to have Thomas Wolf quoted on this show sky. Thanks for being here. It's such a pleasure to see again. Thanks for having me. Always you bet. Scott word, we're the new athletic director at L S year. You gotta get used to saying that. Well, thanks where break back with so much more on this Tuesday afternoon. You're listening to the Paul finebaum show podcast. Welcome back guide you here. Let's get some reaction. From in Baton Rouge to the big announcement the other day and the press conference today. Matt moscow-new coast to an afternoon show. Everyone waiting to hear what will be talked about in Baton Rouge today on ESPN radio. Matt thanks for the time. What has been the reaction over the last four or five days to the hiring of Scott Woodward? For the first time in a long time around Baton Rouge. It has been unanimously positive. You gotta understand some context that everybody here knows who Scott Woodward is he's a Baton Rouge guy went to LSU who was part of that great sort of rebirth of LSU football in the early two thousands with barked Emerton, Nick Sabin, everyone followed his career for a decade. Plus it Washington. They watched him go to Texas A and M and do great things there and leur JIMBO Fisher and people. Here have always watched out over from foreign thought, that's the native son who left and done good, and sort of waited for the opportunity to get him back here. And a lot of people are just in a sense pinching themselves that they is here. Matt we ask out about it. He said it happened in a flash show. What what really went down. I mean, how how did Scott Woodward ended up getting that call and why and how was Joe leave pushed out so quickly? So I did ask that question today at the press conference, and I think rightfully declined to discuss specifics of the time line, but best that I can decipher is that this was a couple a couple of weeks ago is when maybe all of this started the transpire to gauge interest, and in clearly it was done without Joel livas knowledge because he's no longer in that position. So I think LSU be it through intermediaries works in back channels to gauge Scott's interest whenever they realized that that he wasn't fact interested they proceeded to get a deal done, and it pretty stealth like manner, and but Paul I mean when when you look at recent history around LSU when we can talk about the end of twenty fifteen with less miles than the uncertainty everything that happened with JIMBO Fisher at Tom Herman LSU's mismanaged a lot of these situations. The fact that on the same day that Joel livas ouster was announced hours later less than an hour later. It was confirmed that Scott Woodward was in. I mean. If you and I have had so many conversations over the years Kuala of situations like this that LSU is not handled. Well, this one was flawless in. It's it's got a lot of people feeling like maybe this is a new day where LSU was moving forward with what seems like a unified direction. What was the last straw for Joe alita? What was the tipping point that got him out of that job and into whatever job? He currently is in. Yeah. So I I it makes so much sense to say the will wait stuff. Right. But at the same time, we'll wait it's been reinstated. And Scott Woodward today said we'll wait coach a sports one hundred percent. So I think from the periphery that's an obvious one. I just don't think that there was a straw that broke the camel's back. I think so much of it was timing. Call and baby f- to understand how the the political system in Louisiana works. Now politics is intertwined with everything. But the bottom line is there are people. And I don't mean fans, I mean influential people I mean, four members I mean boosters, I mean people at sometimes operate in the shadows who want to Joe Aleve gone for a long time, and they finally garnered enough support to be able to do it. And I don't minimize it. All the fact that part of it happened because Scott. Woodward was available and willing to come. If Scott wasn't willing to come. I don't know that we're having this conversation today, and let me let me check a few boxes here. I with with will Wade. He's one hundred percent behind him. But what's the next? Shooter drop if there is a shooter drop for we'll wait, right? So that that that'll trials going on in New York. It started on Monday. We'll wait and Shawn Miller is we know they will not have to testify which means any potential evidence will not be admitted into court either. That's a win for four. We'll wait. So palming save something being leaked potential evidence that we don't know yet exists being leaked that could be a smoking gun or something further than what we already know or you'll pending an NCAA investigation, which very likely will come after this federal trial. Remember that the federal government asked NCA investigators hold off on any investigation until we've completed this this trial. So I I'm under the assumption that the NCAA is going to come snoop around. I mean, it would only seem logical that they would be calling me in another thing to keep in mind. Is that the president of the NCAA is Mark ember? Scott Woodward was Marc Emmers chief Lieutenant whenever it was LSU chancellor. Emmer higher Woodward to be as flooding director at the university of Washington. I I don't know that that necessarily suggest leniency, but it can't hurt. No, I it can the one thing I think it can do even more than promote leniency is. Emmerick can certainly tip off Woodward to which way, this is going sure. And they're in it's worth mentioning to paulie, there's very close in the sense that Scott, son, married. Mark Emmers daughter. I mean, that's pretty cool. I've seen. I would imagine some conversations have probably already been had. I I asked Scott today is his thoughts on on the will wait situation. And he said that he he sort of deferred and said, you said, you probably know more about it than than I do which I don't know that I fully believe it was point. But but at the because clearly if you're Scott Woodward, and you're gonna take that job you're going to have that conversation first about how you proceed, but but I can I can respect it. And I can certainly respect him standing behind. We'll wait who's been reinstated? At this point until something further comes out if something further, what's what's the likelihood of will Wade being affective right now in relation to recruiting first of all. That's a great question. I and I just it's hard for me to answer in. No. But what I do know is what we've seen that wills a really affected recruiter. He's got great guy. Great people skills, and he's a relentless recruiter. And he cultivates a lot of those relationships. My assumption is as long as he's here. And in good standing that. He'll be able to pick up right where we left off the the thing that I know is that will in the staff by extension were telling prospects, just just hang on until this is all resolved. There's a five star Ford out of Alabama. That LSU is considered a leader for was supposed to announce his college decision last week and held off until presumably to see what happened with will. Wait when when you just sort of read some of the circumstantial evidence that's around. I guess it suggests that that that some of these prospects are are still considering LSU's. I the fact that they haven't tipped or or pop for another school is an indicator that. They're not completely off on on LSU. And finally Matt in relation has got word. We're I mean Edwards Ron is expected of a big year the tip asus of last year when he wasn't and did if he does. Well, then I don't think it's really matters. Whatever your answer, isn't this question? But if if things don't go swimmingly for at ores, Ron hat is the appearance of Scott Woodward changed the calculus. Scott made no bones about it today. I mean, he said we will win SEC championships, and we will win championships. I mean, there's there's. There's no misgivings about why he's here and what he's coming here to do. But but you're right about it. He's coming off a ten when season PS two bowl. He found a consensus five recruiting class, and they're gonna be a preseason top ten team right there on on the level of it. I mean, it would have to take a bottoming out for for things to go sideways with football. I mean, if if let's say they're projected to be in that ten win range this year, and they hit eight let's say to go eight four, then I think you could have the conversation going into twenty twenty that it's like, okay? This is a make or break year. I it's really hard for me to see that that come in Paul. I mean, this this LSU football team has about as loaded a deck is they've had in a while. And and they actually have a favorable schedule this year too. I mean, it's it's more likely they build upon the successes of the other year ago said Ed not the guy that the among the the the catalog of coaches at LSU that I think has as much to be worried about right now. We'll make sure we bookmark those comments. I thank you. I said right now there was a caveat. No, listen, I think everyone's thinking the same thing. Which is scary. If you're in LA S fan, always great to have you on. I know you ever showed to do. We always appreciate you making time for us. We'll see you soon. Thanks, ma'am Moscow. And what a difference a year makes when when LSU was expected to barely break the six or seven win, Mark. And now everything is just going along swimmingly. We'll take a break or more calls at eight five five two four to seven to eight five big first hour with Scott Woodward. We are coming back with you. After this listening to the Paul finebaum show podcast looking back. Glad you're with us. Let's get some calls going here and start with TNT in Baton Rouge. How are about? Hey, I'm good. How are you? Fantastic. Thank you listened to your interview with the stock Woodward. And I thought he was a good end of you. You've like history, right? Yes. I do. Okay. Well, I could go Marie. Of the one that Robespierre quoted the Marie Antoinette. But that's not good. I could go. Could quote, join Jacques Rousseau on his on the developmental stages of emeals that wouldn't fit, but one that might fit would be Emil. I mean, yes, Emile Zola's shot when you get a state friend of systematic anti semitism, and he did it with forethought. He used the officer Dreyfuss as his bay study. And he argued it effectively, and when I hear LSU referring to referred to as a third world country in a country of upstanding, citizens like the SEC I want to cues you of of anti LSU as them. But convince me that that comment was necessary you and I had spoken about this deal with the four hours Joe. And you your argument at the beginning was now, wait a minute. This is a caller driven film. The caller didn't dry your comment you made that comment unilaterally and I'm not angry. I'm just amused that you did that. And was wondering why did you say that that's a fair question? The the reason I uttered those words were specifically directed not so much toward the university itself, but toward the now former director of athletics, it was my opinion. And I won't bring out everything on this program. It's got Woodward knew exactly what I was talking about that Aleve a operated that athletic department, and they're for the university because he was the Representative of it as a separate entity. Did I need to use that phrase? No, I didn't it was probably a little over the top. But I was trying to make a point that LSU is in much better hands today. Then. It was a week ago. Right. And I understand what you're saying. I really agree with the the manner in which the athletic who administered under leva, I think it was time for change at the same time. I'm not so sure dot Woodward. Understood what you said, he just overlooked it. No, let let let me let me assure you. He did because I know Scott, quite well, and we've had many conversations off camera, and he he made there was an he answered the question, and I may be been one of the few people that understood the answer. But he said something specifically in his answer that address the question, and I and things TNT you understand. I'm just gonna leave. Maybe I shouldn't have brought them to the table. But there are some back back room occurrences that Aleve. A either did or didn't do that that that that would was aware of. And I knew what maybe was too inside baseball because this is a. A program. That's that's if you can't under if everyone can't understand them, probably no one should try. But I I will I will certainly withdraw that that statement for future reference. How about that? I thank you for that. And and own Maximus gone mad Madonna was on this show. And he asked the question about the backroom thing and start very deftly told him back a matter. This is not the appropriate done. So he should have said that. But anyway, thank you for letting me express my opinion, and I respect what you have to say. I think your your your remorse. We're very Dell. And thank you very much. We'll see great to have you on Eugene is in Georgia, and you are next up. The Hello Eugene. Hey, call going on, bud. We're doing great. Thank you look here on door you show. And thank you for letting me go you big George Budo fan, and I have to commit that. I've never been a gym from Tuscaloosa. Fan. But I apologize. Whoever did the programming Saturday just dropped the ball in. I have to MIT him. They're more on. Which program you talking about the the Georgia game. Yeah. Geeta game. Yeah. We missed the first quarter and a half really a blowout. Softball game were door to ladies softball beat Tennessee and to you're saying you're saying that Saturday afternoon a softball game. Preempted the Georgia spring football game or quarter and a half. It did I didn't realize that. Yeah. And you had to record it. I headed recorded case I missed the very first of it. And I went to check it and that was soft ball. And I must say Eugene, I was unaware of that listen sometimes live programming runs into other events. We've all been. Subject to that. But considering the importance of the Georgia spring game. It was that that's hard for me to believe. But I trust that you you you were watching. So I'm not going to dispute it. I just didn't realize that did go to Google and Google it go. No, no, listen. I I believe you. Yeah. Once one thing about I am an employee of this network. I do not run it. I have no authority other than I walk in here. Like any other employee? I'm not a manager. I'm not an executive and today. I'm glad I am. Neither thank you.

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"The Paul finebaum show podcast is brought to you by the new Capital One saver card. Earn four percent cashback on dining and entertainment two percent on grocery stores and one percent on all other purchases. What's in your wallet? Cried pack then patron Torri of college. Football leaves here face. The Paul finebaum show. Our three podcast busy show. We talked about Nick Sabin hip is he still is going to be a hipster or is he going to be laid up with a hip surgery. Let seems to be the conventional wisdom down in Alabama. What about will weigh certainly has taken center stage and all the different spring games? Eight Friday and Saturday, we have gotten a reaction to some if not all of them. Let's continue with more phone calls and rights is up next. I have a little trouble with that connection. We will get back to that. Call on a minute Ray is up next Ray, go right ahead. Going off ball. Hey there, buddy. Good afternoon. I just want to Tigers Mazen eight game. And it was great, man. And you have a nice time. We'll thank you. I appreciate trying to be trying to welcome in spring. Now that the masters is finally over good to have you on RJ is in Kentucky, and you are next up. Hey, R J a pow apology from last week. I what what what did we what did we get into? Isn't that Mark stoops and Kentucky house comp him down? But I I won't Jesse because he was trying to you know. Whole ground with Marston. And you know, what watching that blew hot game Friday. Even it changed. It changed. My I mean, Mark suze don't leave ever be a ACC contender. If he wins to make games, you're I think everybody would be happy. But the blue light game. He really chart Terry Wilson, and they gotta run back name smoke. Hey is going to do some smoking had did you did you get to watch? A. Yes. I did. I'm not sure I saw Nuff was going home while it was ending. So I I got home right as it was ending. So I didn't see much, but I plan to go back and review it. Okay. Appreciate you. Show. Pollen. Apologize once again. Hey, listen. I wanna make it clear to you. And everyone else RJ. No one knows me an apology for anything we talk and as far as I'm concerned when we hang up we hit the reset button for the next show. Thank you very much for saying that though, and let's continue with more calls. Tim is in Orlando, Tim, go right ahead. Just curious how you felt that any of the SEC spring games. Wow. You'd any of disappoint. You know? How did you feel about? Hate to rank them because I I can, you know, eight I have not really had a chance to spend a lot of time with all of them. If I had to say a school that impressed me the most maybe was was am I thought that team looked a little more complete than maybe I thought JIMBO would have them after one year. I liked what I saw from Florida. That was a quick snapshot Alabama. The defense impressed me Auburn the two young quarterbacks. Have impressed me Kentucky. I think look solid. I'm trying I'm leaving someone out. But those are just a quick snapshots of four or five or six games. Just wanted to see what your hasn't was great great to hear from you. And you know, again, I we try to have experts on who at these games and who were on the field or in the press box. I can assure you I've been spring games. I've even coach in one or two, and I didn't know what was going on. Because unless you know with the coaches are trying to do. I mean, I know that there was a situation. I think in the Alabama spring game. I believe it was two who who did not look very good. But all of a sudden he got hot. I think he was up against this. Some there were some twos. Threes and fours in the game from the defense at the time. He was doing he did he he didn't do a lot against the ones. That's what you have to keep in mind is you know, who's on the other side. Most most quarterback can do really well against subpar competition foster in Austin. You are next up. Foster you there. Apparently, not how about Jimmy. You are next up. Good afternoon. Jimmy. Hey, how you doing? We are great. Thank you for the call. I got a couple of questions on a what do you think about the perseverance of Felipe bay frame, and what has spent -tations us for fans can have from them all year too. I like Philippi. We've got a lot of conversations about him lately, including one with injury Adelson the other day. And I I think he has grown into a good quarterback and a leader. And I am pretty high on the Gators. I mean, I'm sky and the Gators now if they didn't have toy Georgia be even higher. Right. Right. I think other liens though. I I don't see too many games where I wouldn't like their chances. I'm on. I two more doors the game, and that's all in the net. LSU's it I I'm a little area. But I just remember that they do play at Baton Rouge in Auburn. They have at home, which I think is a is a good is a good place to play Auburn Auburn. I think I've said this probably a couple of years in a row, but Auburn may be the most mysterious team in the SEC. I mean, they could challenge Alabama for the top or they could just be a disaster. I don't know which one thank you for the call. Let's continue with more calls right now. And try bright Bryce again, I think we tried him a minute ago, and it sounded like he was underwater. Bryce, you are you above order now. Out of the wind. How are you? I'm well. Thank you for the call cool headed question for you. Jeff problems new contract at Purdue in the big ten. So you've got hair bow and then Penn State and then him he stayed in the big ten pay. Now, I saw that pretty amazing. I wonder if the million I wonder if the same agent did that that did the Rick Barnes contract. I mean, thirteen and thirty teams not too good over two years for thirty six million knows. And I I'm a I'm a fan of his, but yeah, I mean, there are two different ways to get paid you either get paid on what you've done Barnes, Bruce Pearl or what your projected to do Brahm. And I. I mean, I I get the feeling now that athlete directors are like people that run the government. They they have an unlimited budget. They just spend it. We'll find it somewhere. And it's a matter of keeping the talent in house. I thank you very much for the call really great to hear from you. Richard is up next in Baton Rouge it Hello, Richard. We are great. Thank you. Hey, I wanted knowledge you say nimble verbal virtuoso. How you like that? I like that. I'm I'm thinking about Kansas side, whether to play Wagner or Beethoven, well, Blake seventy six from bone that would be well that would be much easier to conduct and they mentioned virtuosos by there's a room for you that seventy six trombones on a clarinet, right? With a hundred and ten. Posing in rows of the finest virtuoso, but you stand alone. Let me say that. Thank you very much. That's I'll I'll put that one down. Hey, I'm calling about the railway station and the way that speaking of member verbiage the way that the verbiage is being handled that in. Nobody knows anything about the will weigh situation. Yes, are sly permanent little comments made about we'll wait that off potentially career doing. And I wonder why do we do that? Why is there you know, that they have been you know, just to be fair. They have been incidences that other. But the big blue blood in basketball is no Stiglitz Kentucky. And I don't wanna leave litigation. What we saw with the the one where they spent the money in the in the video box. Yeah. I don't wanna really the gate. You know, please. I don't relitigate DJ fluker. Either. However, the lack of even handedness or should I say, the speculating with no fat, but injures the LSD fans psyche, and certainly essentially injures the career of real, wait. What if we're way get let me let me stop you for one second. Because I mean, you you may be completely right about everything you're saying, but. I mean, we'll wait was suspended for what five to six weeks by LSU. I mean, I mean, it's easy to blame the media, but his own bosses, and I know it sounds convenience say, well, we got we suspended him because he wouldn't cooperate that. I think there's probably a little more to it than just that. Yeah. Okay. So the media had in my mind had every right to speculate on the end of will Wade because the university did very little to support his likelihood of coming back. Now. Clearly there were some reporters in Baton Rouge. Who were right? They kept telling us here that the university was trying to find a way to get him. Back was is suspicious of that. Yes. I was was a suspicious am I still suspicious? I am and part of that comes not from just a rush to judgment. But depending and listening to people in the industry who who felt like they had a pretty good grasp of the situation. Now, they may not have it's entirely possible. But it's also entirely possible. We still don't know very much about why he was suspended, and we we know even less about why he was brought back other than he went out and hired an attorney who had represented Bruce Pearl in the past. And Shawn Miller in the past and in his attorneys resume. It's quite interesting to note that he he is very good at what he does in fact in the attorneys resume he talks about getting a an NC double a charge against an SEC football program dropped as part of his ability. This is a very good attorney. And this attorney clearly played hardball with LSU in LSU once we'll wait showed up made the determination to reinstate him. Now is he is he is it what he coach next season. I don't know. All I know is he's been reinstated. And I hate to run we are up against a break. But we were going to find out more when we talked to Glenn Guilbeault that is a right around the corner. Cried passion, then Patrie of college. Football leaves here. Face skews. The Paul finebaum show. Our three podcast. With get onto the big story of the day, at least in the SEC, and that's will wage reinstatement. Glenn Gilbert, always great to have have on Glenn. Always. I'm sure you're you're maybe you knew about it in advance. But that that late Sunday night news dump on. We'll wait good afternoon. How are you? Gary did not know about it. I mean, I thought something happened on on Monday. But no that was that was a bit of a surprise to thirty Sunday knife right after the master's ruled a really nice day. But you know, it was probably it was probably the right decision for LSU in the short term. We'll listen we've all tried to speculate in very few of us, especially me know, what know anything. So that's why we want you on to help us better understand how we got to this point. And where we go from here. I have to question every day covering LSU. Now, I think really will Wade folly wise up and and met with LSU, you know, if he'd had done what he did Friday if he'd done that back in around March ninth or tenth he could've coached LSU in the SEC tournament, and and maybe gotten a better seat Costa and through the NCAA tournament and probably would have had a better chance against the team. Like like, Michigan state, but any hired a better attorney, Steven Jake Thompson just hired that person a couple of weeks ago who who defended Bruce Pearl, Shawn Miller, and and and all of a sudden coach Wade was was meeting with LSU, and he got his job back really, really nuts. Very little has changed tween now and in and in March, you know, so he could have he could have been reinstated back in March. So where does this put him though, especially with this looming trial coming up is he still in on that is he out? Do we know anything? Are you know, the the he's he's possibly going to have to testify in in this trial federal trial starts on April twenty second that came out in February that he may have to testify, and and you know, he wasn't suspended for that. And I don't think that really would have stopped him from from being reinstated and in March, but you know, something could come out of that. But you know, there's a chance he may not have to testify, and it it depends. What he's what he's asked. But regardless of what comes on in that. I think the NCAA and the FBI are gonna continue the FBI, particularly it's gonna continue to investigate and then the NCI NCAA after that. So you know, sooner or later, you know, LSU in Wade or going to have to pay the piper so to speak if he did a legally recruit survived a smarter and other players. Does it seem like this was a short term legal game where if he did this then LSU would do that? And you're you you alluded to it there. But you're putting off the inevitable trying to figure out really what's to what his future looks like. Yeah. I definitely looking at a short term situation right now, you know, he can start recruiting on busy prospects on on Wednesday there in on some really good prospects. There's one in Birmingham, Alabama actually that LSU has a really good shot at friend in want bird from mountain brook. But I think they were looking at at short term. And and really the thing is, and I think the way schools view the NCAA now, and what AirAsia did in keeping showing Miller in a very similar situation. Miller got up tonight. Everything that's kind of what we did. You know, you take your chances on the NCAA, and and it's down the road. So you know, you you worry about that when that comes up. So in the meantime, you you keep your coach you try to win. Whereas if you fired your coach, you know, you might look better in the eyes of the NCAA down the road. But your program will suffer in the short term. You know, what else you wouldn't have a chance to get these players coming in and keep into players thinking about the draft that they didn't have weight right now. So they took a short term strength. Is there a sense of relief in Louisiana or has there been so much damage done that it's hard to really figure out what to believe in this case? Oh, there's a big sense of relief from Nellis you fan base. But I think it's a little naive. Then in a way. I mean, they think it's okay. You know, they think it's completely over they think they're coaches back, and that's it. Whereas really, you know, it's it's kind of a short term solution. You know, it's it's not over. There's still an ongoing and seeing choir of of Wade and engine author smart and the federal investigation is still going on. But you know, LSU fans kinda don't, you know, they don't believe a lot of stories even though it's pretty black and white. If you read those Yahoo the Yahoo sports report. But no, the LSU fans are happy to have their coach back though. I think some of them do think that you know, why why don't you? Why? What did you do this back in March? I mean, that's what I'm thinking. Why didn't wait do this back in March? But LSU pants are flaming LSU for that. Not wait, which is kinda crazy. Do you think as much criticism as he gets Joel Leyva had has had any other choice in handling this procedure the way he has? And it's you know, he he he's got to be smart enough to know what's around the corner, or what could be around the corner. Wouldn't you agree? Yeah. Well, his contract loans out of the year. So he might not have to deal with it. It might not be. But you know, I've I've not always defended leave, but I think he's handled this extremely well. I mean, you know, they always shoot fans disagree with me. But I I make a leave us done what he should do. I mean, he should have suspended way refused to to meet with them. And wait also he didn't give a leva an accurate picture of what was going on when the leaves spoke to him back in October. When the first tapes about we'll wait came out in in his recruitment of of another player also Provincia who ended up not coming to LSU. And so, you know, I think leaving LSU has done the right things. They're you know, they were correct. When they said Wade broke his contract by not meeting with them in in March. And and they kept the door open. You know, they've kept the door open for over a month is the meaning they had Friday was the same meeting. LSU wanted back. In March ten March ninth when or March eleventh when they could've gotten way back in time. So I believe it's done a very good job considering what he was up against the way is the one who messed up his chance to coach his players in the NCAA tournament. And if I'm willing to wage players, I gotta be saying, hey, crate, you met you got reinstated. Why didn't you do this back in March you could've coached this tournament? Glenn, a no you it's easy to blame lawyers. That's who you allegedly believe or depend on. And we know we know Wade change lawyers. But is there any other explanation to his behavior from back then until now? Well, yeah, he did. He did change warriors. Michael McGovern was in New York City criminal lawyer who is it buys him not to meet with LSU back in March. And then there's new lawyer Stephen j Thompson from Chicago. He he changed things. But still weighed mate that says wading hired that lawyer and listen to them, whereas common sense should should've told them. Hey, I need I need to be with my boss right here and the end, but you know, he made a mistake. But he did apologize yesterday in his statement. So hopefully does realize minimum state. Are are we going to hear any of these people talk to the media beyond statements? I don't think so no I was told by somebody at LSU last week that this was not going to be a press conference situation. Yeah. They they don't want to answer the obvious questions. You know? You know, what what did you do with your day? Smart coach, wait, what do you mean by strong s offer? What do you mean by piece of the pie? What do you mean? By the word deal. You know, he's probably not going to answer those questions, and you know, a lot of times when when something like this happens schools are moving toward just releasing statements instead of having a big press conference. Glenn? I know you've you've alluded to there. There are more curtains to look behind that at some point. But if you had to take a wild guess will Wade be coaching next November when the season begins. Yeah. I think he will be coaching. I think he's following the Shawn Miller blueprint. There was also one tape talking about a financial deal for player and he's still the coach that zone. I don't know how much longer he will be. But I think Wade is gonna continue as coach and they're gonna cross that NCA bridge when it comes up. I actually you will he should he be coaching next year. Well, you know based on the information, they have you know, that I have that. I've read I would say, yeah. But I would think if you know if more information comes out more damning information and LSU, you know, should have more access to to some of that information quicker than than the general public. If they keep funding more information, you know, because again, remember Wade, sending October. That's it. And then this came out in March with with smart. So if there's another revelation by Yahoo. And and more information comes out, then I think LSU's got, you know, realize, hey, what are we doing here? But you know, at the town LSU's been multitasking. I mean, Dave looked into what it would take the fire Wade with 'cause too. So they're they're they're prepared to to move in that direction if something if there's another revelation. But right now, it looks like he's gonna coast. Do you think out? This is a tricky question. I I know I know I know what the view is inside the state is anyone they're concerned about the way. This looks outside of Louisiana. No, I don't I don't think they care about how things look outside anymore. You know? And if if LSU fans to say, oh, look, look what that schools do look at this school through. Hey, look, what your school's doing, you know, and and LSU has historically had a pretty good reputation for its NCA compliance department. But you know, I'd say they've taken a hit by this, particularly if he remains coach, and and there's more revelations, but you know, LSU's only been on probation basketball once but ball twice, which is which is pretty good. But you know, this is not something to brag about you know, they they looked like any other school right now. Arizona, you know, Auburn, of course, almond fired Chuck Person, though, you know, LSU hasn't hasn't fired anyone they just did suspension. So, but you know, LSU can't look down its nose on anyway. As if as if they could have before that, you know, they're just like Arizona in this situation, which LSU people criticize. As the world turns. The by version. Hey, keep keep keep to then. You know, there's another. Yahoo store could drop at any second. Yeah. I don't know what. The odds are in Vegas. But I bet you could get you could get some money on one on happening. Hey, thanks, Glenn. One thing's for sure you always have a job as long as Joe Aleve is the director. But he did do with this. I think, but you know, he's he's probably he might be looking forward to to leaving in a year now. Yeah, I enjoy. So his contract runs out. Is there any reason to believe he's going to stay or go or or do you think he's out? He's he's on his way out. I think that he's got some fans he's got some detractors. But it's it's coming up on a about a year away, you know, July of two thousand twenty you you'd think if he was going to get an extension. He he would have already gotten it or pretty soon. So it's gonna be interesting to see I I will tell you. I I don't remember at LSU having an athletic director, who's younger than fifty you know, in a long time. And you know, it might be nice refresher to to have a younger athletic director. I'm sure I'm sure king. Alexander's listening to your comments invol- dealing note that Glenn come comeback soon. Thank you, very very much. Thank you. Great stuff. Some really revealing stuff there by Glenn. We'll take a break more of your calls right here. And we'll talk to Todd Blackledge in the final hour about Alabama spring game coming back with more. Cried passion, then patron tree of college. Football leaves here. The skews. The Paul finebaum show. Our three podcast. Glad you're here. And appreciate you. Joining us. Let's go to Fred next in Texas. Hello, fred. Today. Rub. A happy Monday. Thank you. I want to talk a little bit about this wheel Wade situation. Then there was one thing that was saying that the end of the call with grin in. And basically what he was saying was that, you know, the people in Louisiana have a waiter. They feel about this that may be different than the way that others view it and I've wanted to dig into that just a little bit. If I can because you and I talked about this. And you even though you Philip brother from the south. I don't like that you get the wheezy feel that some people have on this. I want to try to explain it, please. Then there was at infidels of a certain age. They'll remember this name sheriff Jessil also from real perished in the sixties and seventies. In was very youngest Sarah thirty one years old, he visited was brought up on federal charges of extortion and criminal allegations, including the fact that he used the deputies cars he says clause. To the the ignorance the DOW Chemical because he saw that they were license plates. Go from Arkansas, Tennessee, Texas, all around and not enough, Louisiana. He was acquitted. Whether it was his whole jury on every single charge against just a law. So when you wear for election, businesses, slogan, your fought, you know, he's right was if you would never was bear. God what is Fogel from sixty four. We the of people look at what's happening. They'll say we're not gonna let somebody from the middle district of Louisiana. Some additional New York. Tell us how we're going to judge one of our old people. And when you talk about the tape and you ask the right question. What about the take? What about the violation that appears to be taking place on tape Paul if you Anna sports fan? Yes in yourself. Really? Are we saying that violations of sports Lewis caught on tape should have his own the fainting counts? Because of the first thing they're gonna sit January twelfth let twenty nineteen saints Rams game. When it was violation of sports will was caught on tape. And yet nothing was about Monday. Let me jump in here quickly. I mean, I lived in Louisiana with Edwin Edwards was a governor. I I'm familiar with the state. I I didn't live there long. But a year was enough brother legally understand what you're talking about. But, but I you all I don't need to educate you, you're an attorney. But there is a difference between criminal law and NC double A law. And I think some people are getting that confused. No. Well, listen, the two of us in John Hayes could get will Wade off on a criminal charge. But that's there's a difference though. Between the way the way things are going to come down from an NCWA. Now, I think Lynn said it best. LSU's gambling right now that the NC double A is so incompetent that they'll never be able to make this stick. And by the way, that's a good gamble. But what about LSU's reputation in the process? That's what I ask you. Well. I'll I'll read you ask too far because one of the thing they glance it. And he's either maestro. He knows that program inside now, and you know, the history as well, he mentioned that there was only one instance in which LSU's basketball program had had NCAA sanctions. And that I believe he had to be referred to a mess to Earl situation. Right. Went back to the NBA in the ninety. And here's the deal about that LSU had three I think three or four basins, and what happened Lester Earl the plan for those who don't LSU player who allegedly was paying about sixty six hundred dollars the Sheila while it was LSU something along those lines and Brown and at the prime assistant goes Johnny Jones were implicated in it. They were eventually both of it. And Lester Earl vote a three pays apology that was envy evident newspaper that said that NCA told him unless he gave them something on coast Brown coast Jones when he transferred to university of Kansas. He would only have one. A year ago they will ever. Listen. It's really. Oh, man. I think you're right. And and I think LSU is is is doing this the way they feel like they they must. But I'm willing to bet you that. It doesn't have a good ending. We'll talk that they have to be seen. And I wanna be clear I'm trying to explain the feelings. The sentiments of people who are who have called in charge in the support of the coach and those who have even sat on the sidelines. But I can't let you go. Without this one thing that has to be integrity in any system and people have to have confidence in it. If they don't have confidence in it. It's at that point that they begin to say as like we don't care because then you'll hear Rick Latinos name who goes name. Okay. Allina all this. And so I think that's part of it falling. So I'll leader with that you having a great show. I just wanna hear somebody answer that question. No. You wouldn't about raise a good question. I think right now, they're so there there's such a lack of integrity across the board with the NCWA, not not only from certain schools, but from the top does anyone really believe or trust the leadership of the NC double A. And I think there in lies the skeptics. We are up against the break. More to come on a very busy Monday. Todd Blackledge final hour. Your phone calls are next. Cried passion than patron tree of college. Football leaves here. Face skews. The Paul finebaum show our three podcast. Welcome back. Glad you're with us. And how about Stewart in Montana Stewart? Good afternoon to you. They fall. Are you good? Love your show. Thank you very much. I'm alive blow guitar Theun. Wow. I love college football basketball. And love things today is has been for many years is how come the NC double is able to the they're ruining our our sports. They they don't have any common sense. They put in its replay. We all know that. The visuals are human and make mistakes, but I'm very upset with Virginia being the. The winner of NCWA when I over veal and the replay shows than double dribble would have ended. They'd calls a double dribble that happen. The game would have been over. Okay. Say guy. I they got back and check the replay. With would. They've also seen the Auburn foul right before the double dribble. Well, you know, but they in the replay. He was no the of after the overtime, the she's a three point Charlie. Listen, let's not get hung up on that. That's not gonna change. So I mean, I I agree with you. The NCWA is pretty. There's some pretty shady characters up there. Well, you know, they use in as they use. It's the replaying tennis and baseball they baked mistakes, they change it. But anyway, I think Vinci's AA is not for years as up in three leading the college athlete properly. Well, I I think about that there then there's certainly high number of. Lawsuits that would support that. Yeah. Again back into the replay. You know, it was incidentally, may be but in the in the way, it'd be I mean, these are these are these are. I mean, you're getting the NCAA confused with basketball rules, and and I'm not looking to. I mean, the game's over. I'm I'm happy with it whether the right team won or not is is really Auburn Auburn should of you know, if they hit they could've victory won that game. There are plenty of opportunities to win that game. Thanks for the call hate to run. Let's check in with Wayne in Memphis. You're not you're up next. Hey, wayne. How 'bout college football analysts fall does Tennessee or any of SEC school have any of these college football analyst on their staff? I think they do. I don't I don't think anyone has the number that that Alabama does. But but everyone's able to everyone certainly capable of having as many as they want or at least within reason. So Tennessee has one other words. Yeah. I I don't I mean, I know that Alabama's a really good question though. I don't I don't know about. Other schools. All right question. Number two. Major Applewhite and Butch Jones. Are they analysts for offense or defense or everything? I would think the major Applewhite Butch Jones our offense of analysts. Three. Are they involved in recruiting at all? No, they are not do. They question. Four in the last question. Do they get paid anything? Right. Are they just own their batting their time as they collect from their college is separated from listen. I don't want to make this. They're they're paid a a small number compared to other coaching salaries. It's large compared to what most of us make. But I think it's because of you know, they're still being paid elsewhere. I mean, Butch Jones being paid by Tennessee, major Applewhite is being paid by Houston. So you have to keep that number fairly low. Otherwise, that's the contract. You know that? Okay. Well, that's all I thanks to good stuff. Nick is up next. Nick, right ahead. How you doing man? We are. Yeah. By the way, I mistake. I I put you our Dany brands the other day, and I meant to put you on with Cuba because you don't like that would Rams that was Danny brands. I would keep AKIs here today. What was they want to put him? Oh now clad a with him. What do you have manic? I don't know. I don't know of by mail us. Well, because I think on talk spring game to his performance the all the coach now that what I wanted to talk about one dollars day. What it felt about the game? I want to ask what invoked by Dr. He looked average. Wait a minute is Nick starting to quarterback controversy. Maybe I'll be good defense. You like MAC? Matting y'all last year was an may paid. Well, so what? Well, they should have been MVP this weekend. They gave it to metric they're saying Mack. Jones can meet a top ten defense. I'm john. He was laying NASA number one day fans way. Then the game especially over to listening to the Paul finebaum show podcast.

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Also, if you missed last hour, I mean, I how do I put it except just flat out saying it WWE superstar page was here to talk about fighting with my family, a film based on her family and her and she said that she could that she's fine as you know, her wrestling career is over right as she point out. She said she's fine that her her neck was still attached. So that's good Brockman said, something smart. S? This just in said be careful I can come over there. I'll put a wrestling move on you. I asked her what wrestling move could. She actually still do. She said that she could kick a guy in the nuts and make contact and he would not feel it. Mike. Okay. We took a break television. Only segment. She did it about del tufo, Brockman, Brockman went down like a sack of potatoes. But. Apparently there were no potato sack. You were you were falling selling. We'll don. That was all our two that's called content. Twenty-first-century content. Okay. So on eagle is about to join us here on the rich Eisen show Zee on the phone line right now, he said he's got new material take that for new material on eagle back here on the rich Eisen show. How are you? I'm very well. I had a very short stint in wrestling. I was the iron Sheik. Very. The iron Sheik was one and done. At one and you couldn't sell it. What happened? I entrust us the testing the test. I was that was the enemy. Gosh. That's how you doing everything. Good life. Good for you. Yeah. Okay. Great. You did a fantastic job on the traffic. Thank you serve every single year. I know that's the equivalent of a broadcaster giving birth. And you did it two hundred and fifty four times I gave birth to hundred fifty four times. The contraction started at ten minutes and then down to seven and then down to five for the rest. That's basically what you know. No, no appeal to me. By the way, that's a big word alert idea at that meeting. And I got three come on. So in all series, though, the your I imagine your schedule is is beginning to calm down after calling nets games and that season's over, obviously. And then. NCWA tournament games. You're you're just you're making some some playoff basketball rounds right now. Correct is up eggs with yourself. Okay. The the nets Philadelphia series in the first round in New York for yes series and went five games. Nets gave him a little scare and the first game. Philly got its act together. Great game for that could have really turned the series into something else. But seventy Sixers held on there. And then blew out the nets and game five all and all really successful season for Brooklyn. Definite moves in the right direction. And now an interesting off season and with TNT, I I gotta sign this Philadelphia. Toronto series, the first two games games three and four on ESPN ABC. And then Greg Anthony Roz Gould on would a and I are back for game five in Toronto next Tuesday, which reeks of being pivotal the game fives or either decisive there either decisive or pivotal. Taught him broadcasting school that if you're gonna say game five you've gotta have either decisive or pivotal. There's no other before there's no other. There's no other it's either decisive or pivotal. There's that's the math. That's the only math. If you get to a game five, and I'm you don't graduate without that vernacular. No must you must in a same in the same way. Anything that happens in the UK? It's across the pond anything that happens in Australia's down under otherwise, we're we're fired. It is in our contracts. One hundred percent hundred percent. So that's why I say it reeks a pivotal because the way the first two games mapped out. What what are the Sixers able to do? Do you think in game two that that might be repeatable tonight and and moving forward? Yeah. Much better job defensively on Kawhi Leonard thought Ben Simmons took on the challenge there. Double teams were smarter better rotations defensively against by. And then problems for Toronto Jeter. Rating offense if it wasn't Colli Leonard in in game two they got a little bit more at a Kyle Lowry. There was a come to earth moment for PASCAL Siaka who was fantastic and team one 'cause sold did not give them much ofensive Lee. Their bench has been a no show so far daddy green didn't shoot it. Well, so Toronto still put themselves in a position to possibly force overtime, and and maybe come back and turn it around in that game too. But if Philly a lot of credit I thought Brett Brown handled things really well from game one to game to didn't push the panic button. And there's usually this this reaction is overreaction after game ones varies because you form a very strong opinion. And the reality is that Philadelphia has a lot of talent a lot of pride, and they're still developing chemistry. This group just didn't play all that much together. They basically play. Laid a grand total of ten games together before the postseason started. So this is still a work in progress for a team that made bold moves and a GM Elton brand that swung for the fences. Yeah, I know Tobias Harris being such a crucial edition and obviously with injuries. Is that is that really the number right around just ten games? This unit is played tha that's amazing. That is Martin. You know, look the process was such a big part of conversation. The way that Philadelphia did it, and I think they realized that some point that they needed to make some bolder moves if they wanted to truly compete at a pace that the fan base expect expected they've waited long enough. He just looking at numbers. It's it's scary. To think this team was was a ten win team, and the fan base stayed patient and understood for the most part that this was going to take a lot of time before they could really get it going. There were forty seven in one ninety nine before they busted out and won twenty eight games in two thousand sixteen. Right. That was the first sign that that you thought to yourself. All right. Maybe there's something here and beak got healthy. Ben Simmons, obviously got healthy. And then last year. Year. They were fifty plus win team. They went fifty plus again this year, and they're they're going forward. And there is the east is wide open, and they should feel that way rich on eagle here on the rich Eisen show. Of course, it all just comes down to when you put it in a blender can can you beat the the warriors. When all is said and done in Golden State now ten wins away ten ws away from going back to back to back which team. That's you've seen in front of you. Has the best chance. Do you think to knock them off in that you can go the rockets coming back from an to whole which is obviously a big task. I was really confident in Milwaukee the team that I saw down the stretch of the regular season that I saw in the first round of the playoffs obviously game. One of this. Boston series was a bit concerning. They had some bumps in the road in game two and then third quarter. They flip the switch, and we'll see if we've seen their rough patch, and whether or not they got that out of the way they have to go to Boston two games. Now, they're against a really confident group even though they're not one hundred percent. And no, Marcus smart still they've played with a fire and finally feels as if all of the the big plans that were put forth for the Celtics. They've they've seen the vision of Brad Stevens. And it's beginning to to form again. You know, this Toronto team is is very good. But any team I bring up is just going to pale in comparison to what Golden State bring. In the firepower combined with the experience combined with the coaching. It's really hard to make a case for anybody else. And this hasn't been the smoothest road. But with that said when they get to this stage. It's it's hard to debate. They are truly the best team in the NBA, and it may require Kevin Durant going elsewhere until we can start having a much deeper conversation about what team could one day replace convinced. He's going anywhere. I I'm really I'm really. Yeah. I'm not I I know that what the reporting is in the latest thing isn't I know in our last conversation, you were saying that the nets are preparing themselves to be a an actual viable destination. Come July first and the reporting over the last several days is the nets will be considered by the top athletes that are available top free agents that are available as if that is news. You know, I'm not convinced that that that he is he he's he's no longer the guy who joined the team that he couldn't beat. He's no longer that guy. He's the back to back NBA finals MVP. He's got the best chance to do it back to back to back. Why in the world would he break that up going into a new arena? I'm sure they. Could come up with some sort of finances that makes them feel special? And why leave that why in the world leave any of that is what I think it's gonna come down to. Yeah. I agree with everything that you just said, it makes all the sense and all the logic that you laid out, but I think Kevin does be to his own drum and is a bit of a complicated guy not in a negative way. But I think he has some alternate views on this. Now that doesn't mean that it's automatic. And he pops up somewhere else because he wants to create a new image and a new era in some other city. I do think there will be some some serious discussions. We we haven't even seen Golden State make their case they still have business to take care that's part of making their case that's part of making their case the next when a champion. And as long as they can actually come to work and live with one another over the stretch of another eight months, log, you know, to me, I I don't know it just seems to me. Why would you this? This goose's land, platinum eggs, you know. And I don't know. I don't know why they would do anything of and just do their best to keep them together. And they've got the the coaching staff and they've got the front office and ownership that can make their case with another trophy inadequate. They will I think they will think that the part that we don't know and even reporters who have gone out on a ledge in made or Lord statements about what's going to happen. They don't know is the day to day interpersonal relationships and dynamic behind the scenes of how these guys interact, and what the feeling is between the core group if they have another run in them, and I'm not talking about another. Year. I'm talking about another three four years together to go out and try to make legitimate history. And until this season is over and this championship. Run comes to an end. I'm not even sure that they've dealt with the idea that Kevin Durant knows exactly what he's gonna do. Right now is is laughable. I don't think he does. I think he's also in a period of trying to figure out what his future is. And what makes the most sense for the next phase of his career? Well, if the Knicks do get the first overall pick if the the Dolan Carmo somehow does not drag them asunder the night that the ping pong balls are put in the Torino, and whatever they put them in Zion winds up in the hands of the next then we might revisit this conversation. Maybe do that very fair. You know? All right. I so you're are you are you just office weekend? Are you just like hanging with family this weekend? Is that what you do? I don't like to publicly admit that. But yeah. My mom. So nothing do. So what do you do? I mean, do you golf do you play golf? I mean, what do you do? I do not you do not go off. Okay. So what do you do? I mean, do you. I. How? Probably binge Brock Meyer. I'll probably do. I like I like that. Yeah. Are you a game of thrones guy? Are you game of thrones guy? That's a that's a tough subject. I am not. I am not. Hey, gee, OT guy. See not. And you know, I love television the history. I just never got into it. And I don't see myself doing it. Can I on time soon? I'll give you bench. Barry on HBO of you've seen that. Oh, yeah. Yeah. I'm a guy. I'm up to date. Okay. Okay. I'm very up-to-date. Okay. All right. All right. Very good. And I appreciate you watched on sorry yet. I'm sorry. I of course, I have I've been on it up a soda that. I know you. He worked freight handing out goldfish at a at a kids party much to the dismay of all the cast members. Yes. Which I would never do. That's a fun show. I would never dare get you. All right. Well, again, I appreciate now that we are on our live on the rich Eisen show. I appreciate the brio with what you read the pros. Lot of synergy. Also, you know, what a rich lanky lefty. That's another one that has to go alongside never say. Like writing a lake. Well, it depends on what sport depends on what sport. Okay. In basketball. All well. Well, in baseball, lefties are crafty. Crafty lengthy awesome. You know, what I mean crafty, right? Randy jump. That's one of the many reasons why Randy Johnson was such an outlier there was nothing crafty about him every other left every other lefties crafty, all of Nayna, Tom glavin, glavin crafty, right? We can't going on I ever even saw lefty grove always clear. He's crafty. That's what I'm saying. I and you take care of yourself have a great weekend. Man have a great weekend off you thanks for the call them. I'm going to start game of thrones right now. We'll see about the NBA finals. That's I eagle everybody. The best ideas. I love the greatest how about that. He had no idea. We're going to talk about the WWE is that a stock line from the iron Sheik. Do you think he just came up with that? Or that's something he uses I feel like he's used up. I think feels funny got it. You just throw it in there. It was a delightful way to start. They professional lead pipe wielding professional. Fantastic. If the Knicks wind up with Zion all bets are off, man. Yeah. Then we can have a different conversation. When is that? When is the gets the draft lottery. It's two weeks. I'll Zoro richeisenshow researchers gonna look that up because in Chris Brockman zoo news update, the Dolan wormhole forms. I promise not to be young into the gravitational pull Tuesday may fourteenth day may fourteenth. Oh, baby. You're gonna hover outside the mole. Please do me a favor in the break about to take at look to see if JD in the straight shots as playing on may fourteenth somewhere, that's part of the I know I know. I know I know what story's coming. I know what story's coming about dole. Great. You know, Google like predicts your searches I have searched this so many times mall after his type in J D in the first option JD in the straight shock torn. Oh, yeah. Those cookies have been dropped on that on that device. I bet they have Dolan wormhole cooked, by the way, great fantasy team Dolan wormhole cookies his next tour data's may thirtieth. So he's all okay. We're off on a commercial break your phone calls. Chris Brockman news update when we come back. Everybody's got it to do list. Drop off the dry cleaning pick-up some milk. Here's an idea. 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A check on our poll question capital. One is reimagined banking by offering savings and checking accounts with zero fees zero minimums and one of the nation's best savings rates Capital One. What's in your wallet approval required? Capital? One NA member FDIC, Christopher what do you have over there, which NFL Team New expect the most improvement from in twenty nine thousand nine Arizona Cardinals seven percent Jacksonville. Eight teen percent. The jets twenty percent Twenty-three percent raiders thirty three percent. Jimmy Garoppolo in the forty nine. Everybody loves James g I need to see it. I it wasn't materializing before he blew it. It he didn't blow out his knee in the first nap of the season last year. No is the second second or third week. It was it was on a play where he should have just got it. There is still a lot to be seen. So that means again five wins from them from last year would be a nine. Seven season that would be a huge leap forward for them. But for the Jacksonville Jaguars to go. From five wins to ten wins. Is is very simple to see the defenses terrific if the offense can perform better, which ration-. Seperation? I don't think it was. I think it was a breakout where they ran the football. They had an identity, and they stuck with it. And they were healthy. And the defense was terrific. And then last year. They beat the giants on a road week one beat the path. And then they beat the pats the next week in there too. And all and Fornet goes it's for that got hurt. And then so their offensive line gets hurt and Bortles gets exposed. And then the defense begins to crumble. Fornet comes back does stupid stuff on a field like getting ojected out of a game in buffalo. Yeah. The team in London while I was there so banged up on the secondary that wind couple of didn't even pay their bills in the middle of the night Coughlin. Couldn't even send them home. Marrone? Couldn't send them home and had a plan. I mean, it was kind of a mess now his midseason in you could see it was going sideways. Midseason Jeff Fisher. I I would choose the Jaguars in that one. That I would do, sir. What's a successful raiders season? To go from four wins to nine wins would be remarkable five hundred season wouldn't be bad. Either. A five hundred season where some of these young kids that may act drafted, and I I wanna just against say this too because we had Ray Ratto on early and he thinks that and look again. Mayock is the general manager Gruden runs the ship. We all know that. But those draft choices that may often all over the Cleland feral one was had Mayock written all over where he loves the kid and Gruden might fall in love with the kid to and see the same thing that Mike did three Clemson guys all high character individuals that they got there all of them. So I I don't know if it's, you know, it might be like, hey, John. I think we should take this guy and John's like, okay or Gruden fell in love with Cleland feral. I I would probably think it's totally different. So that looks that looked like a Mayock draft to me, and we'll see if what he's been talking about for the last fifteen years about how you build a team. What is important actually because what he did is he put into practice what he has preached sitting next to me for decade and half. Which is why you would hire somebody like him. It's got a news update. Brought to you by Honda. Please. Rochman with a special live report drunk men with the new Honda Civic. Lana brings you the news funded drive civic SA the versatile civic hatchback the record breaking performance of the civic type r altogether. There is a civic for every enthusiasts. Head to your local Honda dealer today to find yours Chris. What do you have, sir? All right. Let's start with. We started the show with today. Rich, Arizona Cardinals. We had Steve come on earlier in the week. And you ask them point blank is Kyle Murray the week one starter is maybe a silly question. But are going ask it column calamari week one starter against the lines Steve gifts, you did not stutter. Ended up to one overall to to ride the pine. I mean that that's as honest an answer a straightforward answers. Yeah. And it makes logical sense. Josh Rosen and everything you would get rid of Josh Rosen. The last thing you're going to do is say Murray's, not ready. What last thing you're going to do is just say, well, you know, what Brett Hundley beat them out? And you'll be like what then why did you get rid of Rosen? Exactly so cliff Kingsbury was on Jim Rome show yesterday and Rome asked him the same question. We'll see, you know, we're we're still working through all those things. You know, we have humming here who are very excited about, but we'll see where that kind of goes. Yeah. He just doesn't want to come out and say competitions over before his first go round with a bunch of guys you wants to have I'm assuming what p Carroll's been saying for years, which is always compete. Everybody's got to compete. Everybody's job is up for discussion with the exception of Larry Fitzgerald's David Johnson's and Patrick Peterson semi. We could name a couple on every team that didn't sell situation they had to Jackson. They didn't draft a quarterback in the first round or the second round. They brought in a third round guy. And he just won the job. That's right. Because Pete says anybody who's on the team is a number one overall pick. If Brett Hundley beats out Kyla Murray. There's a big problem. Huge problem. Miss shouldn't be a competition. There isn't when they drafted. I mean, Steve com did an excellent job of supplementing. The idea of what Kingsbury is going to bring to the table with Kyla Murray with the rest of his draft. This is drafted for column. Or should we just move on? I mean, he just I, and I think kings various said almost as much as time date in another interview during our show to like, I said, he just doesn't want to come in and basically say to everybody guess what there's no competition or competition isn't nearly as important. What else are feeling left out of the headlines? Jerry Jones talked to the Dallas Fort Worth telegram, the fourth telegram talk about next year, everything we're about right now is improving from where we are. There's no reason no tangible reason at that we shouldn't be expected to be better than we were last year. Do you see the Cowboys improving? I do man I'll tell you this. You know, what the laughing stock of last year was? From the giants the laughing stock one of the top not the one of the if I had to name the top ten laughing stock moments of last year like this. I don't even know if we do it. But one of them was when Jerry Jones says that we're not too far from the Rams offense. And everyone's like, okay, Jerry, it that was kind of a okay, Jerry. Yeah. Got it. Just because you have tape on Austin. And you want to think that your offense is building. Well. Zeke. Is pretty damn good. Okay. I think more people were laughing though at the play calling. I understand that. But now they got this kid Kellen Moore. Who's now going to be calling the plays for the first time. Now, he's got his own little I shouldn't say, he's got his own wonder, Kende offensive mind. He's going to be the one dialing it up Daqin and Jared Goff are in. Obviously select company Goff is one more playoff games. Just this past year. He won to. Right. Dak is one one. And cooper. Let's see what else they can add offensively. Let's see what Gallup dozen year to witness is back. Take on Austin. Is there? Are expected to be better offensively and defensively. They're one of the fastest units out there period. Man. That's no joke. Dallas should win the division about that. Let's start there. Yeah. Don't you win the division? But start there Noah for the eagles. I love for them. But Dallas should win it Dallas one at last year. I understand when Scott hurt, but okay, Dallas should win. It. Yeah. They wanna playoff game last year. They should get to the NFC championship game this year if you're Dallas if you're the Jones family NFC championship game. That's the next step forward. That's better than last year last year than they last year. They had a chance to make it couldn't get past the rent. Packers saints. I understand. Okay. I understand what I'm talking about right here. But the Cowboys have young dynamic quarterback that should be improved. They've got one of the best all around running backs back there. They've got Cooper who looked amazing. He's one of the best route runners in the game. He still young stud. They have an offensive line that is top ten in the league. And you could make a case their top five when they're healthy. The defense is fast as fast can be. They got pro bowlers all over the lot there. They got young kids. They got a coach prove it now. And they got a new play caller that's going to take it out of the hands of. Who everybody refers to as the Clapper? And and the previous administration is history offensively they should be better. Twelve and four better. Why not? This is it like when when is going to take that step up. He wants to get three in front of his contract for for an annual salary. And I shouldn't say when is he gonna step up? It's like the has been stepping up. He has been improving his first, you know, sending Tony Romo into retirement year. Was so shocking. Right. And it was so that it has been it's been less. Of of a skyrocket. It has been more gradual than he was in his first year. But that stands to reason. I'm excited for the Cowboys. We'll see we'll see. We'll see. Okay. Are you feeling? Okay. All right by asking that we're going to dance around the worm hole. Okay. So a story in the New York Post yesterday first reported by pitchfork James Dolan's being sued by MSG shareholders, claiming that he pays himself too much money and spends too much time on the road with his band JD in the straight shot so poor. According to a report over the last three fiscal years don't paid himself nearly seventy six million dollars more than CEO's at similar companies with average about seventeen million dollars at the same time period of self seventy six million dollars also claims to focused on touring and recording as the front man of JD and the straight shot in two thousand seventeen the band performed fifty times in six countries and forty one US cities. Now there are tornado available on JD and the straight shot. Hold on a second may through the end of August. Okay. But taking one step at a time here. So I understand if you're a shareholder in your life. That's an absurd amount of money. But that's move that that aside. Yes. I'm telling the shareholders of MSG you don't want this guy making decisions. So let them go play with his harmonica. Let him go what you need them unless they're saying for him to pay that much money at the very himself that much money that the very least he needs to put down the harmonica. Yeah. Couple of the quotes are pay is excessive and far from fair, especially since he only works at MSG time. Okay. As far as the Knicks is I I'm concerned with the sports teams. Let him go. Get him out of there. Have we determined? He is not performing on the night of the of the draft lot. Okay. So he is not. But they have made the right decision to send Ewing there. That's good. That's good. That's good is good. Mojo earliest short as may thirtieth in Atlanta, Georgia. Okay. Now, I was scanning the tour dates to see if there is any way, we could possibly, you know, maybe show up take one in heckle, whatever you mean, take one in. I don't heckle. I don't heckle come on. Well, rich, you might want to be who you might wanna clear plans on July twenty fifth. It's a Thursday this summer JD and the straight shot playing the troubadour here in West Hollywood, California where I once appeared as a member of steel panther, correct? No, no, no. No, no. That was the ri-. You were. Sure, it is on next, Dan. Right. The sea from Craig? Yeah. So I'm just saying you can go to Craig's and then show up at the troubadour. We make some signs we come in caused disruption will Kevin be there. Oh, he Kevin probably travel. Kevin. Don't travel. Kevin look like me at the door. It's part of the coffee house tour with MAC Kosta and Matt hockey coffeehouse tour. I've been in the troubadour. There was no coffee he'll twenty fifth. That's time. The troubadour many many many moons ago in the coffee little whiskey and. Oh my gosh. We go. What do I do there? What am I going to do? They're taking up. First of all, I'm not giving in my money. I'm a to you're supplying. I'm not giving him my money. So he could look look how popular a great my music is showing not doing that. And the one who I do what are we doing? I'm there. We heckle him heckle him. What do you mean? Heckle him. I don't another. I don't really like I would spend my time. I'm I'm a father of three like, I'm actually leave the kids at home. What am I going? What are you going to? I'm going to go heckle, James. That'd be pretty funny. The Nick so the Knicks. It'll be forum. So I can go to continental take our money. We need to come up with a better plan. If he's coming here to Los Angeles. We've got to come up with a better plan. Should we stand outside or just like just say that we're from Mike del tufo, you're now you're Mike Delvecchio of Stutz come of some magazine, you want interview on his on his music, and then we get a video camera, and we shoot it. And then daily show style, you start asking him about Fidel, and all that sort of stuff and see how it goes like that. I know we shouldn't walk through the front door like this little little little out here. But something like that like more next level scared of Kevin. Kevin's going to be going to beat there. He's here in LA. No, or we just say come on in and vitamin vitamin. Let's talk. Oh that would be. That's all. I would love nothing since some shot. I would love nothing. More than to ask him like normal really pointed questions is a Knicks fan than I want answers to to try and have a raprochement between him and Oakley. Yes. Raprochement with him in Oakland and have an and bring them together. So I can feel comfortable about going back to the garden. I'm more than happy to have him sit in this chair. I wouldn't I wouldn't I wouldn't badge the witness. What if we offer him a chance to play song here? Yeah. Okay. Butter them up a little and then and then suddenly we get subpoenaed by this lawsuit or something like that. I don't even know what that means. We'll quash it. That's another good fun. Where quash quashes a great word. I like squash. Yes. All right. Let's take a break. Time calls to wrap up this Thursday show. You one more autumn over there. I just a fun one. So there was a there was a winter winter fell wedding sorts last night in Las Vegas. Sophie turner. You know, she's engaged Joe Jonas. And so after the billboard music awards last night, they rolled into a chapel and the whole religion city, married. Inveighing got married by an Elvis impersonator hip blow, the DJ documented the whole thing on his Instagram live account, the official photographer what? And they got hit night. Is that right, correct? Yeah. What a life. She leads the Jonas's leave. Dip, low leads words. I never thought I would ever say which which Jonas brother wedding. Do you prefer courses? Other brother, married preoccupied Chopra. Oh, wow. Does your fair multimillion dollars? Multiple weddings, combustible, weddings or shock in Vegas. Please. How Priyanka comes in the truck on Thursday night football when she sings the open that was the end. Yeah. Do you know she used to do the in my city opened for Thursday night football way, back in the day? I waited back in the day when we had our own big snazzy opened that not many people like for the exception that was Priyanka doing it. And it was like different attorney form, whatever it was funny. Like Mariucci would just be all fired up for the broadcast. And then she would come on the screen. Like like, a chicken parm just showed up. All right. Let's take a break here. Congratulations to the happy couple walled. Afraid did not show up. Correct. I don't think. Thank goodness for that. All right king did. Okay. All right. Your phone calls when we come back. Hey, it's Ross Tucker from the Ross Tucker football podcast out under review show with hosts Damon. Indeed your podcast one presented by pedal in line dot, h get the odds news and insights from real industry insiders. 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And it's wins ticket to nothing lead ring yard how about that. All the way up top right there Jonathan scope for the Minnesota Twins air now eighteen and ten right now to beat the Houston Astros second twins going this week. And it is. Well, we're well if if what happens when you go to the stadium, and there has been saying things happen. It's too bad. Scopes, not a Yankee. Was that because the the calls out? Yeah. Scope, I'll tell you what Susan that home run was Minty fresh. Scope Minnesota Minnesota God scope cleans the basis. A three run pallet cleanser for scope. I'll tell you what that swing is Minty fresh breath. Great friends. I Greg in Tucson's been hold on for a long time. What's up Greg in Tucson? Let's get him on the phone. What's up, Greg? How are you doing? Well, what's going on down there in Tucson, man? You tell me no it's been twenty four seven for the last few weeks where the last year, but what I wanted to kind of talk about was because we've been getting full access to the the trial. Okay. What I what I kind of here is that these guys who are being indicted are using the players names to maybe funnel money from the shoe companies. But not actually the kids aren't involved, for example, when they. In or they threw out the name atan a year ago. The FBI came to town and interviewed eight and Miller everybody. His parents in cleared them the FBI did. So I I don't think that's a new story as of yesterday. I think what's new is. The fact that Miller, according to this phone conversation was the one who was basically there was no middleman. There was no buffer to use. The godfather to phrase is not a lot of buff. You think there'd be a lot of buffers? But if the F B I came in and looked at your your Bank, records and cleared you and said, there's probably there's no way we can tie Miller to you paying you like year ago. Why is that interesting now, I don't know his maybe the phone conversation was just on earth to Grega. I have no idea. Yeah. Or just the fact that we're finding out about it or the four I don't know the kid who committed to. Arizona in Philadelphia that ended up back playing for Villanova quarterly. He was in on the same topic. He was on the same wiretaps name that he had accepted money. But when it came down to it when he transferred back to Villanova. They vetted him, and they found out that the guys on trial actually took the money and never gave him anything and he was cleared to play. And he played last year. We'll Greg I honestly and thank you for the call. What you're pointing out is just that. There's a lot more complex than whatever we're reading about in the headline stack right now. And it's up the NC double A to figure it out and clean it up and not leave it up to the FBI anymore. All this money. That's out. There can we at least create your own investigation division with teeth. Can we at least do that with all the money like, let's just take the money and create your own damn enforcement? And let it loose. Higher higher Muller to figure this out. I'm serious like hire somebody of that sort of caliber to set up your enforcement division and not leave it up to the feds. Crying out loud. Thank you for taking in this edition. The rich Eisen show. We had a fun show today. Ray Ratto page in on eagled. You want to review the the final poll question results over their chart. So we're looking at NFL to start which team you think had the biggest improvement in twenty thousand nine hundred forty nine hundred win that thirty two percent. I know you said Jacksonville finished at seventeen percent. Okay. And then two big birthdays today in the celebrity world, the rock turns forty seven David Beckham turns forty four whose career would rather have the rock one that one pretty easily seventy percent. I go was fun with the WWE page. A superstar page was here in stupid in studio tomorrow when you some money Hank Goldberg Zena, call in and get some winners to the Kentucky Derby Omaha beach with the dreaded EPO. Gladys problem? I think there's a day after his stud rights for sold for what twenty two million bucks or something. Like that. Looks like Omaha beach won't be able to run in any of the triple crown races. Trouble breathing. And Mitch Trubisky calls in tomorrow, she Mitch Mitchell rich, it says Mitch here should we just find out once and for all when we speak to him to Mike we should Chicago Bears quarterback chosen atop the quarterback draft that had both the Shawn Watson and Patrick Mahomes in it and everybody in Chicago's happy with Mitchell. Just shows you how good are year. 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7 People to Follow on Clubhouse and Why

Success Unscrambled | Blog Traffic Tips | Business Success Stories

20:53 min | 9 months ago

7 People to Follow on Clubhouse and Why

"Hello and welcome to the success on scrambling podcast. This is alvin and my focus is to help. When thousand creative field enterpreneurs would extend years become more visible using simplified. I'm a fun getting programs so that they can scan their business quickly. One percent of their prophets time and resources to help reduce women illiteracy eventually gaining the time for him but they need with their loved ones. Today's episode will be looking at seven people to follow on clubhouse. And why so. We can only looking at every everything that you need to know every every one that you need to follow on cup house and fifteen things that you can do after you join so other stood in the kitchen looking through the window. Contemplating who to follow on clubhouse. A strange sight greeted me about a quarter mile away. It needless garden. I notice a mon- tugging on a blue rupe prior to this. I remember hearing what sounded like a chain saw in the distance justin. Another unusual site met my is another man appeared to be zip-lining deng this particular blue rope. I was transfixed for some time. Because i was waiting for the pool. Bali that i had the rice cooker to finish. See it was making a bit of a mess on the kitchen counter. So i didn't want to leave it unattended. More about these two men later in the story so you wondering if it is worth your while to join the post bandwagon. I joined just over a week ago. And i was wondering the same thing for many weeks until i finally bit. The bullet and decided are showing Which led me to acquiring an invite so in this episode. I'll tell you about my experience of joining on using klaus as well as the best people to follow on that application. So what is clubhouse. Anyway well to put it simply. Clubhouse is shamir up that is designed for live voice only communication. What mixed cousy is that. It allows for live conversations to take place inside these specialized rules. Think of it as the ornate Version of facebook groups us in sonoma's synonymous quit rooms. The unique attraction of this voice only app is that you can show up as you are a network with like minded people in real time so at the time of recording this episode the puck clubhouse app is only available on apple's vices like ipods. The phone does paul davidson andrew. Han have indicated that they want to grow their social network slowly. Hence the reason why you can only join on an invite only basis after all. They only have a small team so it would be difficult to manage the technology if it grew exponentially will for a short period of time. Enough of that background just to give you a background history. So what fifteen things to do on couples after joining house it may initially strain since you are not able to see. The conversation. sticking mesa nike do on facebook. Groups is extremely important that you have your volume on an tuned up on your mobile device. One of the first things you do when you join couples to enter a room with a topic that interests you. I have a few examples in the show notes showing you what rooms look like when rooms infections in session. Looks like which. I have over if you head over to. Success unscrambled dot com followed smash follow on clubhouse and that's followed dash on dash clubhouse so what at a few things that you can do during your first few weeks on Number one or here's a list. Should i say a beta profile. Join a room. that's infection. Listen to conversations hop on stage naked socials. Follow people on on of interest statue when room a room Or friend find people in clubs to follow. Join existing clubs. See what's coming up. create an event. Invite your friends promote your business and create your own club into too quickly to worry. I'm gonna go through each one one by one when i first joined couples. I didn't think that it was possible to do a lot on false. Only up i mean what can you do however as you can hear there are so many things that he can do apart from just listening to conversations so number one up data profile. One of the very first things to do after joining House is still update your profile at a head. Shot of yourself and place what you do in the first line of your of your profile. The first line of your profile is searchable on the app. So complete this if you want potential clients to find you carefully. Us solution focused words for example. If you're your business coach place that in your bio okay. I'm a to join rue by the we have a screenshot of my political profile on clubhouse in the show notes had with the success. Unscrambled that come forward slash follow on clubhouse and that's follow dash on dash trumpets. Okay number two joining room my honda. You'll see my handle there as well. It's index showed screenshot hop in there is just ought success on scramble. That's s u c ss on s. c. r. e. m. b. Unscramble all the led. Okay joining a room. As as you heard in the previous screenshot there are many conversations happening on the time on couples. Twenty four seven. I just couldn't believe it because when you think about it yet one in different time zones so when people chatting ivanhoe people chatting at midnight time on close. I'm thinking like only. We don't get tired because i wouldn't do that. But when you see the conversation happening you join the joined. The up after you get your own petition me. You simply click on image Allow you to enter the room unless after joining you be surprised to see A quote. But i could see referred to as a page with many photos of people. I do have a screen in a show notes and obviously have blocked out the faces of the people in the room. But i have an example of what it looks like. These people are participating conversations because we're listeners. The photos with a green and white stars at those moderating room. You'll also notice that some people have a microphone. Icon on the photo while others. Don't those with microphones at the ones on the virtual stage three listen to conversations depending on the size of the audience of the audience in the room. You may you may feel better. Just listening in conversation. If you had the long enough you will hear the main speaker of the room. Say that he or she will reset the room. This means they will accept the expectation of the discussion. And sometimes how much longer the room will be in session. Why the room in the room. You may hear a very impressive conversation and feel that you need to network with this specific person kick on their profile and check them out it it if you've stove feed impressed to connect with them. Just click on instagram link. And send them diem. You can also always leave the room by clicking the leave quietly icon which is so cool if it is you have to a number four. We have hop on stage so why listening to conversations. You may hear some someone talking about the struggles in business growth. They may be looking for funding visibility. In-depth business or they may be may be looking for help with something at home. It could be that. They are overwhelmed with a challenge. If this is something you can assist them with this raise. Your hand and one of the moderators would bring you on stage. Sometimes the feature to raise your hand is switched off. Because they're just way too many people in the room and understated the same time sometimes has thousand people on fifty people on stage a ticket time in rotate through all of them before. Been all of them. But all of the people are not moderators before getting to nothing. More people on the stage number lincoln. Link your socials so before hopping on a stage it is super important. show that you have connected. You'll social profiles. Instagram is the most popular choice to connect your profile on Clubhouse yulia absorb instagram twitter. When you help on stage introduce yourself. The full thing that happens is that people will check you out. I know it sounds like dating but this is just the way the app works. If you don't have your social proof connected then it'll be difficult for them. Potential clients departments to conduct you. Compass has new. We need a on the actual platform of messaging people within the app number six. We've got follow people on of interest while listening to conversations in a room you will also notice that. The are experts in many fields. This is a great time to start following people who can be of benefit to you and your business just take on difficult to Profile as c. Bear on head with a profiling. Guests tick the follow button of included. A screenshot again in the show notes headed with the success. Unscrambled dot com forward slash follow on clubhouse and that's followed dash on dash clouds so unlike facebook groups the ability to build the no lack of trust factor is exponentially faster on clubhouse. This is because you will know pretty quickly those who are great at what they do after listening to them. Speak for about an hour and number seven. We've got started when soul. You might be going danny thinking. I'm very unique. Um i dunno know that. I can't find anybody they it so if you're not really happy with competitions that's happening go maybe you just want to know step out eventually cricket club so what she can do. You can feel free to start a room citing. The room is really easy. I've into a screenshot in the show. Not just kicking that button starter. Room is always agree but outside of the rooms to stick on that and it will give you up to start a room either open. It's open to everyone subtle that social stuff applause room so bear in mind that just because he started a room doesn't mean that people will flock to automatically what you can do. Is this little plus button inside of the app once inside of a room that allows you to pink people into the room. So am that's one way to get people start joining or the adoption is you can co host a roommate collie which is number eight. If you're starting a room makes you feel nervous than another great way to get confidence in this area is gonna co host. Of course this will need to be arranged in advance in my experience getting three to four people to moderate. But you makes it more exciting. All four or five of you can advertise the event in that funds to your communities benign. We've got fine people clubs and conversations so finding your next co hosts could be as simple as doing a search on clubhouse apple. People is your business especially accountant. A coach marketing consultant already on the app. Do a search using a magnifying glass. You will be able to see a list of people on clubs that are available on the app to find compensations. Scroll down and pick a topic that is to your composition. You want to engage in a number ten. We've got join existing clubs so not us. You are getting to know your way around the app. It's time to join the club. Who depending on the room you join. You'll notice that of them have a greenhouse at the top others don't have that greenhouse greenhouse represents a A club on you can decide to join the club by clicking on the house you'll be brought page. Looks like one speech on the show notes on who actually give you instructions to the one in the show. Notes shows the social media. Genius club on tells you to up to get up to be accepted into the club's click the follow button a mic. You're following a To the fullest. Listen this sibu an act. Nineteen keys the second person listed so once follows people than they will actually invite you to into the club so the following on joining different things when you follow the covid means you get up sort of get updates but when you when you actually am joined the club then you sort of belong. spam specific circle. I suppose that keeps you. Even more exclusive exclusive his ity into that particular club. A number eleven. The see what's coming up once one to intentionally time in your diary to listen on conversations on clubhouse culture lists of what's coming up in the next day or so on the calendar ikea calendar icon. When you find something you like simply click the balch on you will then be given the option to share. It copied link or added to your calendar k. Evan could a speech in the show notes. And then if that's not good enough then what you can do is you can create an event while you are in the calendar section on both. You'll notice that there is this possible. Next to the calendar you click on that and We be directed to a page complete details for your future event. The difference between something a room increasing event is that event will be sometime in the future whereas we start to room. It starts immediately. There's no sort of warning so to speak now. Titina invite your friends. What better way to enjoy clubhouse experience when you do it with friends or business besties when you sign up when you first sign up on the app you'll be asked to share your contact on your phone and by let might scary. The only way to invite people on the app is by having their mobile number which is considered apprehensive simply click on the e mail or influence symbol to invite people to join you on the and then a fourteen. And i'll explain what invites if you're looking for a vital expanded invites later on so another thing that i found fascinating about clubhouse rooms. Is that several of them in cars you to promote your business. Now you may initially find strange but this is such an welcome change compared to facebook groups. They are some rooms when you hop on stage you introduce yourself say what you are hoping to achieve in other cases. You may be looking for a collaborator approach mental on affiliate marketer to help opera business whenever meet a plan. A- is posting a room on. You'll see you'll hear about literally to own shin encourages everyone to come on stage and promote what they do a number fifteen we've got create your own So if you ultimate dream is to run your own club on clubhouse ben listen up. Here's what you need to you. Need to have hosted three rooms couples before you can apply to create onto after you complete this requirement. Then you head over to your profile and click the icon goto. The frequently asked questions section and kick on. How can i sought a club at the very bottom of that section. You will find the club. Requests form just completed and wait so who to follow clubhouse if you are in a rush of feeding warm and you're wondering who to follow papows to get answers to questions euro feed people. You can follow if you want to ask an expert on instagram engagement. Then follow kate. Cool again of lettuce creature issue notes had were to success unscrambled dot com forward slash follow on clubhouse and that's follow dash on dash out. If you're looking for a business coach take business in seven figures than don't hesitate to check out. Ginny elizabeth again left the details in the show notes. If you need to get your business is seven. Figures gonig strategies on facebook and follow shawn miller screenshot shuts if you're based in atlanta and you need a local business champion for black and japan's than follow mimi. The planner she's good for other things as well. But that's a specific thing may meet a plumber. Planner Enterpreneur looking on an entre. Special brand strategist who has an extensive background. Tv ads. Follow charlie fusco and listen to answer questions on. She give you some tips and tricks. Do you need a to find a virtual assistant position or virtual assistant agency than follow timbre belt show on clubhouse and send her idiom on instagram I have again speech in the show notes. That would you like advice on becoming a paid influence on g than checkered brent. Coma again of leftist details in the show notes So how do you go. Get the couple's invite a young couples yet. Nope you confront invite well. Everyone on the a friends looking for invite to clubhouse are five days to find invites get onto couples in seventies. Let's check inside of your facebook groups especially with young oaten and look for something colon club house. Train couples invited train. You can join a specific. Facebook group called house facebook group at left link in the show notes. She can take a look at that Klaus the name of the facebook group if you are on my email lists abby sending weekly up man mentally updates when i have invites available And it feel free to leave a comment on my my last instagram posts. Indicating that you need a clubhouse invite you can send a dm to your business best e on instagram. Letting them know that you're looking for clubhouse invites and number six you can leave a five star rating on this podcast. Send museum on instagram on. I will enter your name into had to be one of the lucky people to get an invite at a time of this recording of this podcast episode. I have tree invites available. So don't delay. I have tree invites beatable. And i have decided to give it to his yet. So give me five star rating on this podcast and for medium. And i'd be able to give you that invites. You just have to be as quick as possible. But currently the platform is only available or open to people with iphones ipads when you need to share mobile by number in order to get invite to anyone to send you an invite to cutouts so several social media platforms have launched fill out of existence. The last year's tiktok obviously didn't Out clubhouse just seems to be here to stay so because many successful Syra business cereal. Business owners actually using it also. They have several multiple six seven. Eight figure business owners who have said a cup house has added value to the allies. It could be that the timing is right because well clubhouses providing a way would be to meet a net look live Even doing something like a pandemic so club hospitals offers many event valuable features and topics to suit nearly every need when it comes to information so back to that guy with a blue rope in his hands. It so happens that he was pulling deng. He's twenty five foot pine tree that was sort of cut to a certain extent as i kept watching the kept pulling on eventually. The tree yielded on keam crushing dung. And yes ice creamed. My eyes welled up on a bit. Because i felt this side for the tree. I was so bad but it toward that way. I live once once upon a time was a forest of trees at some point. And you know what's you know. Cutting all trees to live. We have to live off the land and unfortunately some trees to be cut to build houses so over to you you already and clubhouse. Are you planning to joy at some point. Leave me a note in the comments and give me feedback of your experience couples if you already there. It's whatever you do. Remember to subscribe to observe the success. Unscrambling podcasts way. You'll be the first to hear what's happening in the internal digital marketing world. You'll positive review of this episode. And podcast is fighters keeping it alive running for the next twelve to twenty four months of. 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Hour 4: 4/29/19

The Paul Finebaum Show

00:00 sec | 2 years ago

Hour 4: 4/29/19

"Plants capture CO two what if we could help industrial plants capture it to thank you. We could help lower emissions. It's one way. Exxon Mobil is helping industrial plants be more like plants, Paul. The Paul finebaum show podcast is brought to you by capital. One capital. One is reimagining banking offering account with no fees or minimums that can be open in five minutes capital. One. What's in your wallet capital on NA member FDIC? Cried then patterns re of college football leaves here. The Paul finebaum show. Our four podcast final hour has arrived within a busy and a lot of conversation about Nick Saban and his recovery from the surgery a week. Also, Ed ash, we'll wait we'll talk about that in the member and Ashok was with us, and he had some really fascinating things to say about Davos Sweeney and some other subjects as well. I was actually completely ready. Takeover the SEC in the first round would've been nine. When the first round was over with because I just kept seeing all these players getting taken. And I was like, oh, wow. I can finally write something different on Monday after the draft. And then I take a look at the numbers. And I'm like, oh, the SEC still had the most yet again. And the ACT was just on the cusp, and then totally fell off after that. But I built people complain. And they hate hearing about it. But the facts are just there yet another year, the SEC leads all conferences and break its own record with sixty four total players taken this year in the draft. And we see it on recurred national signing day both of them the top players go to the schools the top players coming into the draft. Come from the the best development for the NFL is in the SEC. I think the thing for dab. Oh. For whatever reason we ended up listening to the wrong at Asha of conversation there. He was talking about Nick Sabin and Davos Sweeney. He mentioned that Daboh Sweeney is going to go down as one of the top five coaches of all time. So we posed the question in a lot of people have responded in their answers, Nick Sabin love. Anyway, sometimes you hit the wrong button. It'll be doing we'll we'll also talk a little bit later on about the story with will. Wade the story that simply will not seemingly go away. Remember, it's been about six weeks since the first conversation about will Wade came up the revelations on the the who tape and now there's another one. Of course, Wade was suspended. He didn't cooperate with university officials. He was reinstated after hiring a new attorney and today in New York more revelations, a former Arizona assistant who's been convicted testified that will weigh told him about a three hundred thousand dollar deal to land star forward. Nasr read this going on. This wasn't a secretly secretly recorded FBI video that was shown in federal court the coach in question is. Richardson he can be heard on the video discussing the offer for the five star recruit at a New Jersey. Now, the video captured Richardson speaking with a crooked financial manager name Munesh sued who who had gone into business with Chris, Chris, doc, doc engines on the original tape talking about your smart trying to land future clients by phone laying payments to top players and their families. So it it finally comes down to Richardson said that Wade. Had approached him informally about leaving Arizona for a job at LSU to help. The Tigers land read now the two were going after read and those are the two top choices Richardson said into video that Wade told him look, according now from the video there's a deal in place. I got three hundred thousand dollars for him Richardson said that he told Wade give me half of that. And I'll make sure he goes there. We have yet to get any reaction from Wade or LSU. What they say could be very very interesting. Sid is in New Orleans, and you are next up. Good afternoon. Hi, this is sit from gentilly. Lewington rates have your arm. Okay. This is all hearsay positions. I mean, I got my lawyer is Johnny from Charlotte. He even told me that this is all hearsay. There's no proof on any tape. Anything like that that Wade made any kind of deals these people portrayed him insane. This. Did this person from Arizona job at at LSU? No. Okay. So let's say Johnny from shell met is is the last word on this. You may be right. But let me ask you this. This is now two times. We'll wait has been captured on a a wiretap trying to buy a player or trying to influence someone to get him played. Do you think this is a good look for LSU? It's not a good look, but his voice on air. Said we don't we've only heard two right now. I mean by the time this is over. There's no telling what we're going to hear. All right. And he I mean by. By by the way. I mean, we'll wait is not a crime boss that you're trying to convict for for for whacking some guy. We're we're just we're just having a conversation about this guy's integrity. That's all we're talking about right now. Okay. Let me ask you this question. You commu managed anything? I'm sure I can't because you only person that has answers. But that'd be instead he went win. He went and changed his contract and put up put all his ships that if anything happened to him he would be easily fired. So why would he do that put all his chips on his side less? Maybe this is all. People making up stores. I mean, I don't know maybe he's away. So let me ask you a question. When his lawyer was trying to get him his job back. You think he do say, he sure did you think he had any leverage? No. But he could have he could have just sat there walked out. Yeah. And he'd been fired. It wasn't. He got job back because you know, we'll wait and his attorney were probably rolling the dice that. Maybe none of this would listen. I don't know what's going to happen. We'll wait. And frankly, I'm sick of talking about it. But I do know how he looks. And you know, I mean, I have yet to hear. We'll wait issued a statement today saying this is all this is all hearsay. Hearsay? I stand that. Can I go to another topic, please real quick? Why what he has his down coach, oh, which which you did a few minutes ago. How did I down coach? Oh, when you said anybody that compete where they were talking about competition against Alabama. And you said somewhat it since you know, maybe he might be the most competent it must. I thought I was complimenting coach. But anyway, apparently, I'm not going to get through to you on anything. Thanks for the call, though mad is also in New Orleans. Maybe I can do better with my second trip to the big easy. Well, I tell you I'm gonna I'm gonna ask you to do something. Can you read it on your monitor out? Yes. So what is your wife's name Colette Hilep sleep? And right now she had to work to jazz fest yesterday, and we will cuddling up enjoying the day together. And she's gotta take me to the doctor. So she's a home who who was playing. That's a famous jazz festival in New Orleans, isn't it? Oh, lord. Yeah. That's one of the Rolling Stones cancelled. And then they went to get frequent knack, and they got sick to and then they wanted to get Paul McCartney because he's coming down here. But that was last I heard of it. I don't go anymore. I'm like real convalescent the last three years, you know, I wanna follow everything on the media. You know? Well, I hope hoping okay? But we got a record puppet. I've wanted I want you to wish happy. But when she gets up, I'm gonna say you've missed ball. I I'll put it on record. It. Happy to say to say just say happy birthday collect. But after you say that I wanted to make a comment about the coaches, sweetie. And and been in Brian. Okay. Ready? Got your own. Yeah. Well, first of all that wanted to wish co at your lovely wife. Happy birthday hope she has many many more. And it's always great to to hear about you to down in New Orleans. Oh, man. Thank you. You know, a lot of people. Remember Duke Ellington's birthday today. Expellees? With so few. I mean, you know, maybe three four hundred thousand people know about glads, but it's not the same kind of numbers Louis and Duke and those kind of guys get but anyway, thanks to asking. But listen, I called you today to out to talk about talk about Davos Sweeney. I think he learned a lot of his stuff from rich Rodriguez. Rich rod is truly a great coach that will never achieve the level of data. But I think he's about a one coach Bill Walsh went to hang beat army was at the game. And he said I have never seen my offense run. So well by EMMY coordinator in any quarterback talking about Sean getting you know, showing? But anyway, but I think he picked, but he didn't pick that up from Jean Stalin. So I love one of my favorite coach. But but but he didn't pick that up from him. You better believe that he picked it up from Richard things that people don't get the accolades to deserve. But I do also too. You know? Bear Brian latte. When did he did he coach bay Pirelli two? I know coach George Blanda. And I know he coach remember, I think he did I I was so young, and you weren't even born probably. But, but I know he coached George bland, I know, he coached they stable. I know he he he coached show name is obviously his term. So I'm just saying that, you know, and saving, you know, he turns out coaches at every university. You know, there's coaches look say. Save it third coaches. Probably you know, he's got one of the coach in Georgia. You know, coach here, they have the other places. Always somebody cuts to save and getting on some wet big dot down. What's his name at Texas now? And so you got all these people. But anyway, I just wanted to say I wanted to say that and yesterday, a friend of mine, and I would talking old time basketball, great story will Chamberlain. He could never make five shots. They put him in group therapy. And and so, you know, everybody, talk and discuss and they've worked with each other. And he said at the end of the session at the end of the session. Everybody could shoot foul shots better than me, including the psychiatrists. Thank you. Thank you. Great to have you on. We'll take a short break. We have forty five minutes in change to go. And we hope you'll stick around. Book fried packing, then patterns re of college football leaves here. The the Paul finebaum show our four podcast back. Glad you are with us. So we began to show from breaking news out of New York involving will wait another player in another middleman. So we'll talk about it in a minute with a guess from New York where we have this statement from Jason drowsy, he's LSU's interim vice president for strategic communications. This is quote, we are continuing to monitor the situation due to the fluid nature of the matter. LSU will refrain from commenting until further notice. Mark schlabach joining us in his career as a reporter. He has heard many comments like that. I won't push him on the interpretation. But Mark as we say Hello to you. Great to have you with us. And I know the day mostly involved AirAsia and allegations against Shawn Miller, but we are particularly interested in in the the comments in relation to. We'll wait. I from my understanding it didn't take up much time. But it certainly was another player another day. Good afternoon on. How are you? Yeah. I mean, not a lot of detail. It was former then Arizona assistant coach. Emmanuel book Richardson on a recording of a meeting. He had with was with many sued financial adviser who testified today who was partnered with Christian Dawkins and an undercover FBI agent. And he said during that call that at one point we'll wait attempted to hire him. And he said, you know, at the time Arizona LSU both recruiting Nausori out of New Jersey, of course, ended up with with LSU. But Richardson said way told him look there's a deal in place. I got three hundred thousand dollars for him. And at that point Richardson said shoot another word for shoot. Now, you may have and I'll make sure the kid goes. So I'd heard Nausori and the fast I'll tell you that I had not heard three hundred thousand dollars. Okay. Listen, mark. We've already had some pushback from some fans who are saying, you know, go prove it. That's my job. It's not your job. Your job is to report what you understand to be the truth or what's being disseminated in that courtroom. When you're covering it and other times what you can personally dig up and cooperate. But I mean, you add this to the previous allegation on we'll wait. And where where does that put us with will, wait? Title. That's the question for LSU. I mean, if without the statement, it's a fluid situation, we've seen similar statements from Kansas and Arizona, and some other places throughout the last eighteen months, you know, there is transcripts of a call involving. We'll wait talking about a strong ask offer for recruit. I don't know. What more you need? I was talking to Dan Wetzel about this during a break at the federal courthouse today here in New York in we just both scratching their heads and say, what is the standard to fire head coach anymore because it seems it almost seems like the only way coast gets fired now as if he loses in the first round of the NCAA tournament doesn't make it. It's just that. There's a lot of these coaches there is so much smoke at some point. You would think school going gonna step up and do Southcenter center? The NCAA is gonna come in. I think it's a very least Paul I will say this at the very least these. Coach's not only we'll wait and not always Shawn Miller. I think any coach including Bruce Pearl that had an assistant coach involved in this who either pleaded guilty or was charged or you know, there's there's guys like Corey Barker at TCU and breast and Murphy at Creighton who were never charged but were accused of taking bribes, those coaches, the very least I think you're going to be facing charges from the NCAA sell your to monitor their staff, and perhaps even though you're emoting atmosphere compliance and people who have defended coaches in a fast and still to think coaches today of told me that they feel like that is going to be very least these coaches my face. I I don't wanna miss on. What you just said. And they'll come back. We'll wait and the second one you mentioned Bruce Pearl and there he just got a brand new contract for going to the final four. So just make sure I heard you correctly. And I'm pretty sure I did you're saying that he's he may not be done with the NCWA yet. Again, I think any coach bay. Some people. I've talked to any coach who has faced had an assistant coach who accepted bribes is going to prison, or you know, in the case of TCU and then Cray, Lorne overboard charge. But there's evidence of taking bribes. I think those coaches could be in danger might be in danger of. You know failure to promote an atmosphere of compliance or failure to monitor your staff. And and look I mean in Pearl's case, look all people defend him to the earth. But Joe I took bribes gave it the players to players eligible for year. And then the guy he replaced him with is involved to lead you lane his own bribery scheme. So I think I think there may be some exposure for Bruce curl as well Mark last crush on Auburn, but considering the Bruce parole was was put out of the sport for three years with a show. 'cause would would that have anything to do with this in terms of his his endangerment? I can't answer that Paul at this point. Then again, I'm not I'm I'm not saying Bruce Pearl's gonna be charged, but I'm just saying based on people I've talked to attorneys, right? You know, anybody that has an assistant coach and Chuck Person to have more money than any other system. Coach charged in the scheme. You know, I think you know, if you wanna barometer. Look at look at the two players the players who have been disciplined in this thing that kid painting this Sousa at desouza Silvio desouza Kansas suspended for two years. And they didn't even have knowledge that he know about the payments to his guardian and then the Juan Hernandez at Miami. I think cook seven hundred and fifty dollars and was suspended for an entire season. I mean, some of these cases you're talking about fouls, and tens of thousands of dollars involving the coaches. So that'd be here. Very curious to see what the what the NCAA. Ultimately, does let me go back to and and wrap up on you had a busy day, and you got more to do in terms of will wait. So if it stops here, I think we we both would agree. He is in he's certainly in more danger than than than he has been in. But the, you know in new your it's hard to guess, but in terms of him specifically are there more witnesses? On the dockets that could implicate him. They finished up. They almost finished up with the direct us Mony of when he said it was a government witness today to finish up with him tomorrow. I think they're bringing in somebody from Southern Cal and associates to tell us how USC was victimized in this. And then it gets interesting after that. I don't think they're gonna be any more government with this is the defense attorneys half the decide if they're going to allow if they're gonna put Christian doctrines and Merle code on the stand. And I think that is when coaches around the country will get nervous if Christian Dawkins testifies later this week, I think there's a lot more employees in terms of wiretap calls and other than other evidence in terms of pass statements, and that sort of thing. So that's when it could get interesting for guys like, we'll wait and they show a Miller. I think she'll Miller I think the Arizona stuff would probably more play just because there's an zone assistant coach charge in this case, you know, will Wade I think they're probably gonna still face a little bit of uphill battle just because. You know, we'll wait, you know, as you really aren't involved in this case in terms of the bribes. But you know, the Lawrence hear anything about Sean though, and we weren't supposed to hear anything about. We'll wait. But somehow it keeps that's the money. What are the what are the probabilities? I realize your report or not a prognosticator, but but in terms of Dawkins testifying and what would be the rationale behind putting them on. I would say that over the last five days of this trial, the tapes and other evidence that the government as put on the record has been very damaging to him in terms of his fence that he wasn't bribing these coaches he was only doing what the undercover agents told him to do in terms of funding his business, and that was to give these guys money, and he said, they didn't influence, it resistant coaches don't influence any anybody. I think the calls and text messages, and those sort of things that have gone on the record last five. As if really hurt him, and, you know, his attorneys, probably feel like no only thing they can do is just put him on the stand that telling her side of the story. And if that happens then. No telling what will come out of his mouth, you could be fair. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I think then maybe the, you know, his his attorney Steven Amy it said a while back that it was going to pull back the curtain on college basketball's, ugly underbelly. And I think by putting talking on the stand. He wouldn't have a chance to do that. Okay. Mark. Great stuff. I really appreciate you coming on. We hope to talk to you. Again this week baseball Marsh label a while some dynamite conversation there about what is going on. And what could potentially go on in this New York courtroom, so draw your own conclusions on that one? We will get your phone calls after this message. Pride packaging, then patron tree of college football lives here. This is the Paul finebaum show. Our four podcast. How about Howard in Florida? You are next up Dr the head Howard. Hey, Paul either. Yeah. Listen, thanks for taking my call, my wife, and I had rape fancy. We started listening to you before you, Wendy ESPN. Well, thank you very much. Isn't that first time call them in? But we really appreciate you knowledge game. And the purpose of the call today is just comment. You know, you you saw I feel like you slipped you slam. Clemson you indicated they had to go through Pittsburgh, you know, get the championship game. And listen, you know, they beat Notre Dame. And Notre Dame was. But certainly a lot of people thought was a good team. And then you know, both teams Alabama Clemson showed up in the national championship game. And they all knew the implications. They all new high important, it was and clips dominated. So that's just my colleague, let me offer this. Yeah. Our first of all thank you for your kind words. I I have said this before and I and I'll say it again. I I did say what I said. But I I would say that if Clemson was in the SEC last year, they would still be the national champions. They were the best team in the country. They may be one of the greatest teams leave ever seen. So other years, it may be different. But but not last year. Right. And listen, I'm a I'm a Florida state graduate. My children went to Florida. My wife's from Florida gator. You know, like I said, she's a great fan of yours as well. And and we respect you. And I know the SEC is good. But. I'm glad you. We have this conversation the other day when and it was on. I I do think Clemson some years has an easier path. But you know, Florida state is one reason why clemson's path has gotten easier because of the decline of that program when when Florida state was at its peak in in in the in under ballot and later under JIMBO and two thousand and thirteen and fourteen it was pretty tough to to get past that league. But it's a lot easier. Now. Yeah. And I'll agree and hopefully, Florida state it'd be back at you know, and I know we've had the discussion about the top five coaches. I'd certainly put out in that round. But listen Paul, thanks for taking my call. Howard. Thank you. And thank you to your wife for the kind comments. And I'm glad we could clarify some of that Randy is in South Carolina. Your next up. Hey, Paul, thanks for taking my call. Thank you. Eight ball victim Clinton fan been watching program all day. Okay. And got a couple of comments make first of all about bad. Both. Obviously, we love death. He's a great coach. He's eating better mate. But to discuss putting him in top five of all time best football coach. Right now, I think is a bit early. He's only been a head coach for eleven years. He's built comes to football pope into level that we had looked could never have match. But I think would probably need to sit back waiting by ten fifteen more years for when you discuss at do. I think he'll be discussing you Deauville ride. He probably the number one by that by thanks to do that. Well, you're right. And I agree. I mean for for ten I mean, you know, beating saving twice being in the championship final four four straight years. That's unbelievable. But you you don't know what's going to happen from here. I think I do I think you do. But that's that was my reaction to that. And I. There's there's so many great coaches who coached twenty five to forty years that we would be disrespecting. And I don't think that's fair either. Exactly. Well. Paul is infighting talking about Clemson skits, whom how easy it is get to the playoffs. But you gotta admit that it end of the day. You got to beat the best to win the championship. Your thing clumps has done that. Now, also that I asked you this. And I mean, do you agree to the fact that Alabama three fourths of the year last year has set to and probably the first team offense. Well. By the way, if you think about it, Alabama schedule. Who who did Alabama play? Until now, I I know some people are gonna come back with LSU was the top ten team. They were. Yeah. But you know, they didn't really look like a top ten team when Obama played them so out side of LSU, which was a top ten team. Georgia was a CIA was was a non schedule game Alabama against Louisville was laughable. They beat. They beat am at home, which was certainly another tough game. Auburn was average at best. They Mississippi State on the road. Or is that game at home trying to remember think there have been at home? But I mean, they played a very pedestrian schedule until they they got toward the end. Exactly. Yeah. In own ask year guarantee. A Clemson would have had the same record with Alabama schedule. Yeah. And I won't ask you this Paul is the roles I is outbound was ACC in Clinton was in ESI. Do you think it being indifferent? I think the criticism would would would would be just the same that their their schedule is is easy. But by the way. I think you have to be honest about everything. And you know, I think people get confused when when when someone makes a statement that the ACC is not as good now, if you know, again, if this had been one of those years that Clemson would have played Notre Dame. It would have been a different conversation. Ultimately, they did play Notre Dame but not during the regular season. So I I think it's just depends on the year. Sometimes, but you you can't take anything away from Clemson over the last four years, they they have earned it. They they did play at AM last year, which is a credible game. It was tougher than any non conference game Alabama played until the playoffs. Thank you for the call. We're up against the break. We still have a few minutes ago on Monday afternoon. Book pride packing, then patterns re of college football leaves here. The Paul finebaum show. Our four podcast walkabouts. Is speaking blaming the door not to overfill this. But you know, the perfect a lot of LSU fans that are snickering. Well, the latest allegations against will wait having proven anything. But I just wanna share with you some of the headlines that will be disseminated tonight and tomorrow from Yahoo sports was pretty reputable website headline of a story about Pat forty Pat, Pete Thamel, and Dan Wessel, just mood. LS shoes. Will Wade faces another serious allegation? I was just reading the beginning of it. Because I don't think after that you really need to hear much more. But this comes coming coming across just moments ago. A third inference of LSU coach will wait attempting to pay for a player in recruiting emerged in federal. Court on Monday LSU has issued a statement the statement virtually says nothing and says we will not be commenting anytime in the near future. And with that. Let's move on and grab some more calls Perry is in Louisiana. Hello perry. Welcome to the show. I'm glad to be all. Thank you. Thank you very much. I first time call in eleven appreciate it very much. I'm not talking to Paul. This is Paul right here right here. I'm paul. I didn't recognize your voice on the phone. Well, thank you. I'm gonna I'm I'm I don't know could be just three and a half hours of talking to people that it's it's gone down a few octaves. You've got that. Right. Listen. I do love your show very much. And I had a couple of question concerning. This will wait situation. The first one is. Where did the three hundred thousand dollars come from? And then Secondly, if I was going to pay that kind of money to player, it seemed like I would want him to stay. Thank you for a little bit longer than a year that that is a great question there. And by the way, I realize a lot of fans are going doesn't make a lot of this doesn't make any sense very little of this God in the answer to your question. I don't know where the money's coming from unless it's being funneled from some other source I in their in their recording. The the the Zona coach book Richardson said that way told him in relation to gnaws read. Look there's a deal in place. I got three hundred thousand dollars for him. And according to the recording Richardson said he told wait in response, give me half. And I'll make sure the kid goes her. I do not know where the money, I'm not even sure I could come up with and you know, and I know LSU basketball. This is not this is not an organization that were cash being thrown around with with any degree. Regularity. I've never heard it will all this. Exactly, exactly. And I mean, you know, I'm gonna be LSU fan. Always been you know, all my life, by the way. My name is Kerry is not airy guy to dip their periods. Kyrie's go. Okay. But either way I'm just glad to be talking with you. And I'm excited to hear some more conversation about all of this. But whatever the situation going to happen. It's going to happen. I mean, we've lost a lot of basketball players have been recruited bringing our four grand backed up to a kid. You're right, Terry. Right. Sorry about that. Thanks for the call. This is not going to have a pretty ending. There's no way could. I realized LSU redid the deal where they have every right now legally to fire him for cause. And I'm sure some lawyer in Baton Rouge is probably checking that right now just to make sure let's continue with more calls in Michael is in Arkansas, and you are next up. Hey, michael. Hey, how're you called? Thank you quit. Thank you. Thank you before. I get into the whole greatest of all time story for Marken. John college football season's coming up. Get a okay talk using Tammy's voice for the best. Call the way. Okay. Smelled her graduate? But going back the disgraceful time. Paul. I think you're probably close to my age. I'm fifty nine that discussion needs to be in a fifty year. Increment you can't compare. Yeah. You're right me too to mix saving look at it. And it's no insult to say that Newt was better than than Nick or nNcholas better than me. But let's put it in perspective. Let me know what is the because you know, for for the two of us in this age group. And I mean, it starts maybe with bear Bryant or people like that. But you know for John and market. They didn't see Bryant. So maybe it starts with somebody else. Call call your call. You're you're exactly right. That's that's what I'm talking about thing. I'm fifty nine. Okay. Let's just say I'm sixty to make the math easy. Okay. I remember watching football when I was ten years old far as my memory is back. Absolutely. So I've got fifty years of reference. No, I can see the highlights. I mean, it's like Keith Jackson that the best colour ever and Lindsey Nelson and stuff, but you can't compare them to vernal quiz and herbstreet because you you get little bits and pieces and highlight reels anytime, you're gonna have a discussion of greatest of all time, if it's a movie take fifty years can't compare citizen Kane godfather now, it doesn't work the the technology and everything changes, call LA. Love your show. He very Morgan. Jon Morgan, John really, it's Tammy's voice to kick it off. It's okay talk. And it's the best call the week during college football season in honor of her. Do it Paul Michael. Thank you very much. You know, I think the only way you the only people that are I mean, I people call us historians. Those of us who've been around long time, but I don't I don't know. I did cover a couple of air Brian games. But that's about it. That's about the extent a year or two of it. But I didn't see him. 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"Yeah yeah yeah can't buy food. Pay him six hundred. Ken show we alive everywhere. On the iheartradio app. John will be back next week. He took a week off. Here with turksancacoes. Ever marcus planning or big vacation. I'll have another one in two thousand twenty two. I am a planner or my god well for a year from now. I'll tell you why. Because i was supposed to go to japan last year. And then the frigate pandemic it right and so now it's been rescheduled for twenty twenty. Two little brain never stops now. Weighing midnight must be a pleasure to. I'm not be at home. Maybe it'd be a big news today or maybe not. La city councilman. Mike bonin has announced a plan to remove two hundred people from the ocean. Front walk in venice. He claims that beginning monday. He will send out professional outreach workers to talk to the individuals to get them to take housing and he's lining up housing and tomorrow is going to ask for the money from city council allegedly five million dollars. So if you do the math. That's twenty five thousand dollars. A vagrant supposedly. Some of it's only short term housing interim housing. And he says it'll probably take six weeks. I think he's reacting mostly to the recall and to sheriff deputies presence in venice i really don't and by the way you claiming no-one forcement operation. It'll be no police involved. This is about housing not handcuffs. Typical bonnin dance fashion. This is probably just another dance. He's trying to do to get some positive publicity as he faces the recall effort. I'll be talking about that next hour with venice resident here on the john and ken show. We turn to another one of california's continuing calamities. If it isn't the drought. And i guess these are kind of connected. It's once again. The threat of wildfires california governor gavin newsom governor tippety do as a plan to spend a billion dollars in wildfire prevention. I'm gonna talk to professor. Char miller pomona college is the w m keck professor of environmental study and analysis in history. He's been on our show before about this wildfire problem. Welcome back to the shell professor. Miller how are you. I'm doing very well. Thank you all right so you know. I saw a story in bloomberg news that they had sent out a team of twelve. A crew of twelve to begin to try to clear out some of the brush in the in the forests of california to have some effect on the intensity of these wildfires. Twelve twelve crew members. Don't think that probably gonna cover a lot of land. Is it it. It might cover twelve acres And california has a hell of a lot more than that in terms of forest and chaparral that are you know in jeopardy And all of the people who live in those areas. There's a fascinating piece and high country news today about the eastern sierra With don't tend to think of as a fire zone but man Attack the folks who live in mammoth Are very very worried as they are up in bishop and elsewhere because the you know their it's been dry it's been drying out from since the nineteen eighties for goodness sakes And this current drought Is really quite scary. So i mean. I see you quoted in this story saying the plan to actually do. Vegetation management shouldn't be the priority here in other words. We talked about this a lot. Lashed out even trump wait in about raking the forest clearing out some of the dead trees. You're not a fan of this. Well no i did it. Let's be nuanced if we can What i'm a fan of is targeted clearing in and around communities like mammoth lakes like right would down here in southern california idyllwild. Big bear Because that's what we're worried about. We're really worried about the communities that have nestled into these fire zones. You know to go out with a rake. I saw a bulldozer and clear away wilderness. You know deep away from where human beings are Seems to me to be spending money in the wrong place. Which is why. I've got a problem with newsome's Billion dollars Not the billion. I like some of that change But but that it's really targeted at Reactive so they're gonna be taxed and all sorts of things if they're going to buy matching taking that money and pouring it into communities in and around and napa which has been burning like crazy lake county which has been burning crazy and down here. Obviously we gotta fire in the los padres national forest currently So if we were proactive and did stuff before the fires came We wouldn't need all the helicopters bulldozers and the firefighters themselves would be given A little bit more buffer room to work with. So i mean the thing you're talking about is clearing defensible space and communities bagley. Explain what that me though. you know. there's a couple of ways to think about it. Anybody lives up in wrightwood. i'd awhile big bear Knows because everybody's been talking about it. If you clear out one hundred to two hundred feet and i'm a big fan of two hundred feet not one hundred and so you know some parts of the state only asked for twenty five feet which is like ridiculous but if you clear that out It gives you you know. Honestly we want people to be safe now and if if one hundred feet gives you time to get in your car and get the hell out of there. I'm all for one hundred feet. I would say. Go two hundred out from your cabinet or whatever it may be That's the kind of work that an individual can do a community Then can do more. Because you know it's it's gotta town boundary that it can work on and so what you wanna do in these targeted situations is Clear these forests in a way that we still keep the forest. But you know you might take out snags and other kinds of things that that are generating. There's a recent report out from the fourth service which actually says and and i'm fascinated by the resolute the the result which is it's actually less to force than the things the houses bring with them like propane tanks automobiles and the like that really are the accelerate for fires. And that just scares the hell out of me all dog. I wanna talked to about the history of all of this. I'm talking to professor shawn miller. Pomona college didn't show many times before but while and of course the gloom and doom prediction is that the wildfire season. If you want to call it that the wildfires coming up here are going to be extreme. Because the drought is a lot of dry brush all over the state. He's wm keck professor of environmental studying analysis in history at pomona college. More coming up right here on. The john and ken show can't fi six forty. John and ken show john kobylt. Ken chiampou alive on the iheartradio app. Coming up we told you for years. The toll roads are nothing but a bureaucratic mess in a way to grant money from people for roads that don't cost nearly as much to build when they continue to take the money or decades to follow an orange county grand. Jury was very critical of the orange. County toll roads and of course they say you can get a jury in a grand jury to indict a ham sandwich but we'll find out more from corporate carson after the news at four thirty about this report that they issued on the orange county toll roads toll roads are always completely just another consumer ripoff. We're talking to professor sharmila pomona college. To w m keck professor of environmental study and analysis and history about this one billion dollar wildfire prevention plan of governor gavin newsom. 's and now if i heard you correctly professor miller we were just talking a few minutes ago. You're talking about the need for people to have defensible space. A couple hundred feet around their properties so they can get the hell out of there if a bad fires blowing through. I got the impression from that and you realize that wildfires are going to happen and we go out there and try to clear all the dead trees and brush. This things are still going to burn when it's really about is making sure that lives are saved. I mean were you as i maybe not you because you studied this stuff but i can't believe all the people that are moving back into paradise place. That is burn. How many times in the last ten fifteen years. Three times and ten years. It's it's it you know it. It boggles the mind. I get that we're sort of nesters and like if my nest is gone i want to build it and i would like to build in the same place but i i think a little precaution might lead me to say you know what i really want to be near a fire hydrant and get you know. Get down to chino. Chico or someplace like that Yeah and you know. That happens everywhere. You look at what the santa. Monica mountains burn. They rebuild the oakland hills. Burn people rebuild and and you know firefighters will tell you. It isn't just that people are rebuilding. They tend to build bigger. It isn't just that they're rebuilding in places where there's only one road but the road is never widened but the fire trucks as models have gotten much wider and the cars have gotten much wider so it becomes a hell of a lot harder to get out and get fire trucks up so i got no. Trade is something noble when they rebuild. It's because i'm not gonna let this. I'm gonna come back stronger than ever. I deserve to live here. I mean i really. Some of these places are nice. They're quiet probably beautiful surroundings but but by the way what about the insurance companies. I think they have a role to play. I think that's i'm glad you raised that. Because they're paying for this and at some point you would think look you guys don't repay peop- you don't rebuild houses and flood plains wind god's name are you rebuilding them and fire zones. We have a lot more fires than we have hurricanes. Now i understand. There's a state plan right. If you can't get insurance for fire protection you can get into like. We have the state earthquake coverage. Yeah the same thing. Yeah it's expensive so that may be a disincentive to rebuild But you know insurance companies Really need to be proactive. In this as i think the state should be and also city and county commissions. Why are they green lighting. Developments Like the centennial project up in fort to hone which is sixty thousand. People once built that. La commissioners you know green lit and sixty thousand people on a high. Severity zone does not strike me as really good public policy. Well you know what they run up against. We housing shortage in california. We have and you know. We love our single family homes. So that's why apple are still building out. Nobody wants to be loved. Yeah yeah but we may like And then we run like hell when the fires come and wonder why that's happened. I see him the story here. Insurance companies paid out twenty six billion dollars to homeowners after the two thousand seventeen in two thousand eighteen fire seasons. Yeah yeah so think about last year which was even probably double almost triple the damages as twenty seventeen eighteen You know if i'm a. Ceo of i dunno athletic or whatever. That's not a bottom line. I wanna see yeah so just to reiterate though this idea which has been talked about for the last couple of years that we need to go in and clear out the forest that that's a lot of dead wood in there but you said if it's deep and far away from where people have developed and build homes. It's probably not gonna make that much difference it won't and actually it's a healthy thing for the forest to burn And because you know by a biological agent and forced many fourth need fire to actually regenerate what what. I'm desperately concerned about. I mean take take the billion dollars that the governor has announced half that is going to fire suppression so airplanes helicopters and the like four percent is going to defensible space percent. So something's wrong here We're willing to throw money at stopping fires once they've started but we're not willing to throw money at stopping fires before they start and i think public policy wise one cheaper and easier and more effective. And that's the one we don't do well professor miller. It's always a pleasure to talk to you. Thanks for coming on. Hey my pleasure. Thanks so much for having me. Professor miller at pomona college and wm keck professor of environmental studying analysis and history and always right on the money although if you earn a bit surprising there he's all in favor of just getting people that live in these high fire danger zones to build out defensible space so when that big fire burns through they can at least escape in time if they have a couple of hundred feet around their property that are cleared out and the money that they always loved. Talk about all the equipment. They're going to buy john and ken show here on. Kfi john and ken show kfi am six forty. They got us live everywhere. Everywhere will follow you on the iheartradio app. You can't get rid of coming up a few days or any moist line. 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And of course next hour the mike von announcement that he's gonna move two hundred people off the ocean front area of venice beginning monday over a six week period. Once five million dollars to do this we're gonna talk to corbin carson now from. Kfi news keeps an eye on the news out of orange county. This grand jury has issued a report that basically says it should be the end of the road for the toll roads. And if you've listened to our show we're familiar with toll roads because we did a radio show in new jersey for years. Things are controlled by toll roads and basically they spend a lot of money to build the road. They collect money forever from people and build a nice bureaucratic structure out of the whole thing in the grand jury of a problem with all of this. Let's been corbin on to talk about their report. Gordon yeah can. This is the second grand jury report from county grand jury in two years. It's seventy pages of a report. But it's really all summed up in the title. The title of this report is twenty eight billion for two point eight billion road. That's because the grand jury estimates that by twenty fifty three the to transportation corridor agencies in orange county will have collected twenty eight billion dollars for toll roads that cost two point. Eight billion dollars to bill mostly of course thanks to interest and you know there are several recommendations in the report starting with asking the tci to come up with a plan to retire that debt by twenty forty instead of twenty three and that was the original maturity data. The initial debt offering. That plan would need to be developed by the end of the year and come with annual progress reports. The report says this plan would allow for completion of the ninety one express connector and some other projects that are currently in the planning and result in a debt service savings of approximately one billion dollars. Also there are two transportation quarter agencies in the county. Like i mentioned that oversee state route seventy three to forty one to sixty one and the one thirty three. The grand jury is asking why are agencies very yes they're recommending merging the foothill eastern and the san joaquin hills. Tci to save money and finally the grand jury also recommends the agency eliminate impact fees that are played by developers once the debt is paid off until then those fees should go to paying off that debt and those are those fees that are tacked onto new developments in member cities collected and then sent over to the ca for whatever they do with it so the title twenty eight billion dollars for a two point eight billion dollar road and then you start to talk about the debt. If they've taken in twenty eight billion why is there any debt they should be able to take that off the the the the twenty eight billion that they would have taken in would be by twenty fifty three. That's what they're estimating and and really what's interesting is. Is that the report really questions. The public benefit of the tci from its original purpose when it was created in the eighties that being to create these routes to decrease traffic for those who pay but the endgame being that the roads would eventually be turned over to cal- transit freeways and the would cease to exist. But here's what is super interesting. About what the grand jury says on that It says although a debt free tci would be allowed to go out of business. There is no law requiring that it does in fact when asked by the grand jury about an eventual shutdown of the agency. Some mta management claim to be surprised by this supposition. This new attitude is a complete reversal of the tci's as public statements over the past three decades. But basically saying this essentially would go on forever and we and we've heard that with the controversy. There's been many complaints that the tci money on lobbyists and lawsuits that. It's essentially a self-perpetuating bureaucracy. With no end in sight there was that ongoing fight to pave the to forty one route through san clemente that led to lawsuits. And eventually san clemente pulled out as a member city but that also means the city loses. It's one vote on the governing board to have a say what's going on and they would say whatever that's worth and then city officials say they didn't agree to tolls that go on forever the tci into backing off that to forty one thing and they're committing to i think in an extension of the toll free patrol parkway but there again would require another at least one billion in new bond debt issued by the way according to the grand jury and with that commitment a whole list of additional complaints. I continue to go on. But i should also say the. Tci points out that in the twenty twenty one grand jury report and the grand jury before it. They found no evidence of fiscal mismanagement tci. Yeah they say To some extent the region o- on the says they're pointing out that the grand jury says to some extent the region owes its success to the toll roads that were built in the absence of government. Funding You know they list other things like that. There's plenty of inaccuracies in the report. In the grand juries report that the assumption regarding how the boards may operate over the next thirty years is kind of not fair seeing as decisions on that have clearly not been made yet and then the implication that the boards are not already developing plans around there is stability that that that is also inaccurate in their in their view and that they you know. The tci has ninety days to respond to this report. And we'll see what they say all right so if in thirty years said the year twenty fifty three they will have taken in twenty eight. What are they now again. It's still a two point. Eight billion dollar road and we go back. We this for people you build a road. That's the main thing to do. You do have to maintain it but what happens. With these toll agencies. They build up this big bureaucratic. They've salaries and administrators and sometimes even have pr people. I mean it's nonsense. It's a road. Why united on top of that in on top of that. The the question is first of all that there's arguments about how much this actually solves a bottleneck problems. You mean you have this new ninety one express connect with that. I talked about the you know. There are several transportation agencies will collaborate on that but the as the one. That's gonna you know fork over two hundred fifty million dollars for it and the question is you know. At what point in twenty fifty three or whenever will the will will the agency be able to say no to this millions and millions of dollars that comes in each year from these developer. You know fees from people paying for the tolls and that's the idea is that it's never gonna wanna shut itself off. It's a continuous source of income. That just kind of goes around in circles in. Nobody really knows where it leads. And of course. That's the argument that that people have been using to critique but again we'll have to see you know what's the endgame here. Well what is to be done with this report. I mean if there was somebody that was going to act on it. Who would that be. The orange county board of supervisors or who. Well you know. A couple of the supervisors are even on these panels on these boards. Right right right so you know. Lisa bartlett or serves on the foothill eastern transportation corridor agency board that you talked about right. Yeah and she was talking about even if the She was she was saying that even if this. Tci goes belly up. The state would take over and the fees would still be charged. And you know they were saying that the roads won't be free that you know they would rather maintain local control. At least a you know supervisor would rather maintain local control over the reasonable rates that are being charged by the by the a as opposed to other toll roads in the country. But to your point again this is just like you know we. We've discussed the. Oh the orange. County grandeur reports on the jails and other areas. They have to respond these. These these institutions have to respond. But there's no real authority beyond that. There's it's not like the orange county grand jury can say you know this is it the. Tci has to shut down. It's just you know an inside. Look from a third party that you know the the courts put together these volunteers to come together and take a really in depth. Look at some issues that affect the community so it just becomes a report where we can get an inside. Look into what the as doing again the second report. Nothing happened since the last one apparently. And we'll just have to wait and see if there's enough pressure put on this for there to be any action corbin. Thank you for that report much. Appreciate it sir. Thank you curbing carson. Kfi news covering the orange county grand jury report on the toll roads in orange county which is nothing but a scam. You build a road you charge people tolls forever. Eventually you can pay off the costs of building the highway. But you don't wanna do that. And now they're helped out by the fact that there's been a war on the car going on for quite a while here in california people like the idea of tolling because they think it discourages you from driving your car more coming up. John and ken show johnny ken show. Kfi am six forty live everywhere on the iheartradio app. This new jersey school board has reversed. Its plan which they had to remove the holiday names from the calendar. Simply gonna put down day off instead of christmas. Or brought you sean. I don't it didn't take long for them to reverse their decision because the outrage was you they voted eight to one to reinstate the holidays of the school. Count stuff we deal with now. It really is one insane world cup. After five o'clock. Jody meet his goal. Apparently he had announced that by july fourth they wanted seventy percent of american adults to have at least one vaccine shot Admitting we're gonna come up a little short of that mark rumbelow alright. Abc news we'll be on talk about that. We'll also talk about This guy by the name of peter. Zack you need to know about him. He's the something called. Eco health alliance. They're the ones that took the money from the. Us government dr fauci department and turned it over to the lab and wuhan which may have used it along with other money that they get To come up with covid nineteen they may have been doing a little research with the bat viruses and it may have escaped the lab. You know about the lab league theory anyways in the news for a lot of reasons. But he's the one that tried to kill the theory then covid nineteen came from the wuhan lab and apparently he went further. the matt. We'll explain coming up next hour here on the john and ken show. Lapd chief. charlie moore told the police commission today that the city of la is experienced eight fifty percent increase in shooting victims this year about every month. We get the same report. Were running ahead of last year's pace eventually will probably meet last year's pace ticos. Once the pandemic began later in the year shooting started decline and its continued into twenty twenty one. A total of six hundred fifty. One people have been shot in los angeles year to date that compares to four hundred thirty four last year. The city's averaging twenty seven shooting victims per week back last week. Twenty five people were shot in the city and lot of it is shootings. they're saying that sex assaults robberies not so much the but it's the guns is is that the affected the stimulus unemployment money people are buying guns and going out and shooting. I'm sure a lot of it is gang related but Meanwhile on the topic of public safety they're having a mayor's election in new york city. Apparently the turnout today is poor. And what the reason is rain rain. Apparently people did get too early. Vote last week and the turn it was still kinda But today's the day to vote and apparently the turnouts pretty poor. The number one issue among voters in that city like it probably is becoming. Here is public safety If you've been following this shootings in major cities around the country are off the charts chicago. New york los angeles all experiencing the same problem cities like atlanta baltimore shootings homicides way up in new york. There is a guy running. Lose a former police officers name. Is eric adams. He's considered the favourite when it comes to people voting over public safety. You don't really know what people are voting over. And plus they're doing something called ranked choice. Which i guess we'll eventually come everywhere if it if it be if it remains popular in new york this is actually where when you look at your ballot you can put your top choice followed by your second choice. Your third choice. Your fourth fifth choice. And then they have a method of going through that and determining who survives for the runoff winery. Wow so there you go. We don't want you to just pick one guy if you have feelings for another person is just ranked them all gets really nuts but as i told you it looks like a low turnout so you know that city is overrun by homeless and crime but people may not be responding to it. They care so much about the presidential election record turnouts. his at biden is that trump. How much does that affect your life. Seriously all right. It's just a figurehead thing for most of us in our daily lives but who runs your city. Who runs your town makes all the decisions even who runs your state on taxes and public safety. That's what you need to be voting. It's lost on people who just care about who's president because that's all everybody talks about. That's all the coverage is the celebrity president. We'll be talking mark remillard. Abc news for kfi. About how this. The president joe biden. The white house is admitting not gonna make the vaccination goal. They had by july fourth. John and ken show here on. Kfi debra mark has the news now.

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"The Paul finebaum show podcast is brought to you by the new Capital One saver card. Earn four percent cashback on dining and entertainment two percent on grocery stores and one percent on all other purchases. What's in your wallet? Cried passion, then Patrick three of college. Football leaves Keer. This is the Paul finebaum show. Best of podcast. Hey, we say Hello to you on a Thursday afternoon. We have made it to April four th and we're knocking on the door the final four, and I know you're all excited by that. And we are to spend a lot of time bouncing back and forth between studio and Minneapolis. But let's start with some headlines and get you updated in the headline and E L dot com. Just malzahn. Please turn your sound down. Is Auburn becoming a basketball school? Or is this just a diversion from football some diversion going to the final four. I think getting the final four means you get to bring your fans, they get chance to experience it. Against found a four. Let's me know that all the work that I've done so far is on finally paying off in this put everybody on notice history being able to be the first Auburn team ever to compete in the funnel four as a team that we realized that we're not done yet. We feel like we can we can win these two games. It'd be national chapters. We won't be favored in any of the games. But it wouldn't be a complete shocker if we want it all. Well, meanwhile out in Texas. He's counting on buzz to lip program. Light years ahead that is buzz Williams. He's the new coach you'll be formally introduced later today in Aggie land. Meanwhile, Fayetteville would you like to come to work for us? They would like to talk to Chris beard who wouldn't. He's one of the hottest coaches in the country. Would he dare leave Lubbock after a final four run? Maybe a national championship to go and succeed. Mike anderson. Stay tune one person who won't be is Kelvin Sampson. He is staying put he was a high on the list of hundred year check they worked together at Houston. But he's not going. He's reportedly about to resign where he is. So that's where we are on this Thursday afternoon. We have a big show we have a even a bigger show that we can tell you about. John Hayes is here today. Your phone calls. I, and if you don't know the number by now, I will give it to you for the final time you have to memorize it or you can never call the show of your eight five five to four two seven two eight five eight five five two four to seven to eight five that is the number and we begin with Jack in California. Hey, jack. How you doing? We're doing great, Jack. Thanks for the call. I got a couple of days ago. I heard you make a little comment about North Carolina and ROY Williams and jumping about next year early exit. This year looked like the year. I didn't pick to go all the way three seniors had a great point guard. And what did they happen? And what's going to make all all the seniors graduate? They're all gonna play it in the frozen. I think appoint guard just he's gone Roy's got nothing nothing left. Going to become it's time for ROY to say, you know, what I've had a good career beat the rap. I didn't get nailed and the NC double investigation. Maybe I should retire. This is my suggestion what he's his last appearances have been dismal last year getting bounced out in in his home state against a text them. And this year just getting run over. I'm other son. He's he's he's got a great resume and they were a top four team all year long. But sometimes you can begin to see the windmills tilting. And I think they are toward him. Tony is in Florida. And you're next up. Hey, Tony, April, thanks for taking my call. Thank you. Well in for Lewis up lists months years. Actually, it's first time caller. So you're doing a great job. And by the way, I'm another vol for life. So although I'm living in a hostile Florida country. You're gonna magin well that makes two of us. I'm living in Florida. But but I'm VFL are. Yeah. Yeah. God bless you couple of comments. And by the way, I that. Discussion with right Thompson yesterday. Thank you, all and I'm going to get the book to 'cause the dreams I'm gonna order that on Amazon straight away. Couple of comments about the what happened in the tournament to this date, those elite eight games were absolutely fabulous as anybody's a basketball fan would would would would commit to. And and mitt to one of the comments. I think shocking is that anybody who thought I really was a fan of the law. You know, raw Brad and that kind of stuff and metallic Tennessee fan. I I didn't think Barnes was going to get them through. I think Bruce Pearl could've taken that same ball team to the final four. But I don't think bars is good enough bench. Coach to do. What does an be my might not agree with me? But I know I agree with you. And I sadly, I do and I'm a fan of Barnes. But but I think unfortunately, the Tennessee basketball team didn't get where they should have got. I think that was the final four. Team. And I think once again, the March epidemic has struck rich re re Barnes and listen. It's not. It's a it's a common theme. And at some point. You know, some coaches are good at various things he is terrible tournament. Coach. I am. May sound like an overstatement I based out on where I expected him to be. I mean, he's better than most coaches, but the inability of him to navigate the month of March is really an issue if you if you want your your team to to get very far in Tennessee should have gotten farther last year, and they should have gotten farther this year. I totally agree. I think the interesting observations to make about them is that like Duke. Teams can scheme for you. They can put together game plan for you. And that's basically no guard the paint, and and and try to put somebody to slow down bone and guard the paint so Williams, and and for some reason, I don't know if he was absent without leave. I love I love Admiral. I really do. I like the name great guy on that. The all time the all time basketball name, it is it that in basketball homes. You know? No. Yeah. Memphis player wasn't he Memphis Baskerville home. Yeah. Best real homes is like right out of Sherlock, Holmes. His mother probably only read what book. Now that yeah, we should do that one day when there's literally nothing going on which isn't today, but I would say Baskerville, and and Admiral or two of the great names of all time. They are Admiral. What I I think they would have won the game and he showed up for half of the game. But it went a game. Yeah. He he apparently he was disappearing late. Yeah. I think he maybe maybe he's hurt. And who knows what the it didn't didn't indicate that. But maybe he's already played out better in the second half. Certainly one more comment about I'm a big fan of started go on that. I got off the tangent a bit, I digress. But I I would tell you that I predicted Duke would not be in the final four. Even those ion is an unbelievably incredible remarkable talent. He's just the most amazing thing I've ever seen him. He's from from the planet. I mean, he's just forty five minutes vertical. Leap for his size is an equal play in the NFL. L and he'd be be a world. Probably it probably didn't like hit. But that'd be the other thing. But just thinking guys biggest gronk rock with faster more agile think about that. What that would look like at a tied in. But I think anybody who game plan for them. You saw the formula just pack the paint and keep the ball out of his hands as best you can. And you you Bank on leading RJ Barrett. And Cam reddish was absent without leave beat you because they can't they were terrible outside shooting team. And they have been all year, and this everybody who knows college basketball knows this you do I know 'cause I've heard you talk about everybody knows college basketball knows that guard blade wins at tournament time. That's what that's what wins in the final four. The teams that have the best guards are likely going to win. That's why over and has a really as a punchers chance. They really have a good chance because they probably have the two best guards in the tournament. They certainly do it to to say, hey, we're up against. Right. Thank you. Forget again really enjoyed the call. You're listening to the Paul finebaum show podcast. Bob. Hope he's joining us covers the Arkansas scene for as I mentioned nearly forty years, Bob. I know you're working on a bunch of stuff. We appreciate your time before we get to what's next was Kelvin Sampson seriously in play as we said Hello to you. Well, I can't say on equipped Qabli because you know hundred year check there and say as being pretty tight lipped about it. But I gotta believe he wasn't strong consideration. Just because he's a really good coach he has a prior relationship with with hunter, you know, their friends, and he wasn't on the hiring process at UH. And he I think he would have been a really good coach here, but he stay in Houston. So where is the search as of Thursday afternoon? Well, I wish it was like the old days with coach Frank Rosalyn more forthcoming with big. But what I was told by somebody pretty close to the search was that, you know, Chris beer from Texas Tech is was their top choice. And he's obviously still busy coaching his team getting ready for the final four. And I think it's a day where they wanna hear him to they want to talk to him have a dialogue with him. And at least, you know, hear him tell him. No, you know, they don't wanna find out later. Well, gosh, maybe you want to consider it for whatever reason. So I think they're still wanted to talk to him about it. And my guess is he's indicated he's the least listen, I why any twin wanna listen. And then after that, I'm sure they have another list coaches that that they would go to if if Chris beard, you know, did leave Texas Tech which would be very hard to get into leave their. Yeah, bob. Let's talk about beard for a second there. He's been in the state of I remember correctly wasn't. He a Little Rock. Yeah. He was head coach one year at Arkansas Little Rock at a phenomenal year. Thirty and five went in and say, turn of the Purdue. And I ain't got no time lost Iowa State tippy, you know, V job for a week or something in Texas Tech. And he said great success there, especially the last two years in a lead a they never been there. And now final four obviously for the first time. So he's had incredible success. And he was a really under the radar guy. He came to Arkansas Little Rock from from Angelo state down, Texas. So listen, if if tech wasn't in the final four, maybe it would be more realistic, but you may very well have to wait 'til Monday or Tuesday. And then even later, I don't know we both have covered sports a long time. I'm trying to think of a of a final four coach who has left afterwards. I'm sure it's happened. But as you pointed out, it is difficult if if not beard where. In who? Well, I think there's still some people, but it would be interested in this job. It's not the job was point twenty five years ago. But I think it's a good job because of the fan base the league you're in facilities. But you know, and I couldn't tell you for sure this would be the guy or rank them. But ending some logical. Choices would be somebody like Eric muscleman whose at Nevada you feel like he would come to Arkansas, obviously Steve off or got fired this season at UCLA v still very -ccomplish coach as almost an six hundred wins multiple INSEE bids. He's a guy, you know. He's the guy that might be able to get you know, you you hear there's been a lot of smoke about Gregg Marshall today at at Wichita state, and we turned on Alabama and big money. I guess when they hired every Johnson, you know, you so your some people like that. But it could be somebody, you know, like Allegheny body at Brad Beal coming here as a football coach for years ago. So. I'm sure they're they're a lot of coaches have your checks talk to. But it's gotta be somebody. That's a good fit. Somebody. That's good and somebody will come here. I interested. Relation to beard. I know we're going back. But I mean, it's hard to it's hard to imagine him leaving now. But what is your view having seen the pinnacle of Arkansas basketball seeing it now, I mean, what type of job is this? Well, I think it's still a good job. I mean, but like I say it's not coming off a final four appearance like, you know, last it's hard to believe but going back that two thousand two is known rich and his last season where they didn't go the tournament in the last twenty years. They've had six say bids, which is really hard to believe if you think about it or or whatever it is since two thousand one whatever that has up to six bits told never gotten past the second round, Mike Anderson one two for Trump games on Pelfrey one the first round game. And that's it, you know, and this was a program, and then nineties was going to you know, three final fours one at all a loss in the championship game went to a lot of Sweet Sixteen. So it's it's definitely taken a fall from there. But you know, that they can offer a lot of money because you know, the SEC money they've got a great array. And even though it's twenty five years old. I think it's still great arena. They've got to practice. They just opened a few years ago. Mike anderson. Him. You know, wanted that the good Sugata really hungry fan base. I think it's the second best fan base in the dang Kentucky. You could argue Tennessee's. But it's right up there. And you know, and they've got a lot of wealthy boosters. And they do have some tradition here with any sudden richton having success. My cash didn't do a bad job. He just didn't win enough. I guess you'd say keep the job. So I think there's a lot of pluses here, but there's some obstacles to overcome. You don't have a big match or creating base pretty good high school state, but it's not a big state then produce a ton of players you have to go out of state to get enough players. And and you're talking about coming into the league when it may be deeper veteran deeper than it's ever been. Me ask you this. And I hear you loud and clear, and I I have a similar view. But if Arkansas is all is all these things that you you say, they are in most of us think they are then. Why has the program been so average for the last twenty years? Well, I don't think they hired to write coaches. I mean, there's a lot of talk when when known rich and was fired, but they might be able to get Bill self, and you know, different feel totally different things. I live in a great hire could've made it. They know of them was here for oh. That's right. Manning, it sure he was here for twenty four hours. But he was the guy they hired, you know, to replace fan heath, and and he's I was on had hill you and back to Creighton for a couple years, and he's had a really good run at Oregon. I think if he would've stayed or he would have been very he took the job. He was he introduced officially. Oh, yeah. He had a press conference. And you know, and it was kind of weird you kind of wonder what was going on. 'cause they call the hog which I was they always do at Arkansas when do anything, especially when they hire. Coach any kind of got this weird look on his face and he stepped up to the podium. I was I was coming spring football. But I've seen video of it. And he says something like, I don't know my friends at all Mahal would think about that. And you're thinking, well, who cares? What your personal? I think the coach and is apparently he hadn't talked to his daughter about it, and she was a teenager. She was crying because you know, what kid wants to move away from all her friends. You know, I mean, he may never lived anywhere. But I'll Muhak I think she was thirteen or fourteen or something ideas. Is kind of a weird scene. I think he had buyer's remorse pretty quickly. And by that night. I think he was calling his president chancellor, whatever they have Creighton and say, hey, can I get my job back? So, but, but I gotta believe he would have done a very good job here, and, you know, going back to stay, and he's stand went to two straight and say tournaments, basically put together the team that John Pelfrey took then you wanted to welfare and more patient with STAN heath, what would happen. I don't know. Stan what's up floor and had some success? I think he's coaching the G league now. But they I think you gotta have the right guy at Arkansas. Now, you know, Kentucky or North Carolina, mama. Why did why did they pull the trigger on Mike Anderson who was fairly well liked by most people, I think Mike was very well. Like, I mean, Mike still a lot of good things here. And like I say he didn't record. I think it was one six nine one. Oh, two. I think the big thing. It's back to is. This was his eight season they'd been the three and say term, and I and for certain people that wasn't good enough. They thought the program. I was is better than it is. And before the season they were picked finished tenth in the FCC tied for night. You're saying okay for you know, we've seen this place. You know, Ben Simmons. He was at UCLA. He was the number one pick. But they they didn't go the NCAA tournament Marquel know for marshalls and everyone pick a couple years ago. And I think his team went thirteen games. They'll staff got fires. So so and that's how Michael porter jR. You got the Missouri. He only played a couple of games there. But yeah, I don't know. I think some people had elevated expectations. Maybe they felt like, you know, the best Mike was they were going to do is make the tournament and win a game or something lingo. But you know, he took you a be Sweet Sixteen took Missouri. Really they, but he just never could duplicate that high level of success at Arkansas, unfortunately. But yeah, I mean, I've got my attention. It did a good job here. And he did a lot of you know, he cleaned up. The academic guys. Very rarely got in trouble. You never had a losing season. But he never got to Sweet Sixteen either. So I guess. You know, I think for a lot of people might get a really good job. And they wish would have been retained the other people feel like he had eight seasons. He didn't take it to a high enough level time to give somebody else a chance. Bob whole covers the scene out there for the Arkansas democrat because Bob best best wishes. I know it's a it's a pretty anxious time as a reporter trying to see which way the wind is blowing and where the planes are flying. But we will talk to you soon. I hope. Okay, thanks for having me on thank about. Bob standing guard. Watchmen in Arkansas. You're listening to the Paul finebaum show podcast. 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You hope Kiki's not hurt too bad. That's what ROY Williams saying. Oh, okay. Well, that's pretty cool. That's great. I mean dentist realistically, what do you expect coach to say? Hurt though. No, no, never walked again. And mean, come on be real here. Okay. You know? I I think as players have been taught pretty well. Okay. Great. I will never do this. Again. I am. I am expunging ROY Williams from lexicon. I've never heard that aim. I don't wanna ever hear it again to listening to the Paul finebaum show podcast Aaron Torres. Joining us from Fox Sports in talking about the final four and coaching. Aaron thank you very much. Great to be reconciled with you again and. Let's let's talk just first of all about the final four. We get. We get to deepen the weeds just your impression so far. And what do you expect this weekend? Well hall for all, you know. I appreciate you mean great to catch up. You know? I think my big thing is look, you know, there were certain points in the tournament where you could maybe see a narrative going one way or the other just an example, you know, I was in Anaheim last week and even before Texas Tech, you know, was lights out two nights in a row, you could get the vibe being in the locker room that maybe they were playing a little bit better than a lot of people realize. I think my big thing being here in Minneapolis today. I think all four teams are focused cliche. We get it. But I like, I I don't think any real result would surprise me. Right. I mean, Tony Bennett on the podium today said that they haven't seen a team with the size and speed and quick maybe outside but the speed in the quickness of offered Texas Tech play well, Michigan state playing. Well. So I think that's kind of my big takeaway is sometimes you get to this final weekend. And there's an obvious team that the team to beat. I don't know that there is one this weekend. Even though obviously Virginia's the number one seed Michigan state coming off that win. Gets do talking Aaron Torres from FOX about the final four and just let me just talk about Auburn for a second. How weird is it to see Bruce Pearl at the podium in Minneapolis, representing Auburn. It was you know, it was funny because while he was up there. I was thinking whatever it was eleven years ago. Whatever like this guy's career almost ended over barbecue. Right. And today he obviously got the questions about last season. And did he expect to survive? Let alone be on a stage like this. But like, I think even the most optimistic person even the person that believes that Bruce Pearl, and and by the way, I love being around Bruce borough. I think he's a great coach. I think he's really fun. Gotta be around. But I think even the most optimistic person, you know, was worried one about his future at the program. But then to how the negative headlines of the past year year and a half would impact his ability to coach his players ability to folk it being around those guys today. But like it was the exact opposite. You know, what I mean, they took that really bad loss to Kentucky in the in late February. I'm sure you guys have talked about it a lot this week. And the guy that that kind of refocus them that you, you know, the banality of this season started. Weighing on them. And they started to realize like, hey, we don't have very much time here left to make an impact and legal market this skull, especially the seniors, you know, horse Spencer was talking a lot about that today. So it's obviously shocking one because it's all burned basketball period too because Bruce Pearl the situation there, but when you talk to the guys I really got the impression that I don't wanna say they expected to be here. But maybe that they're not surprised that they're here at the same time here, and let's let's stay right there and ex- expand this beyond Bruce Pearl in the SEC because we we we have buzz Williams being introduced formally in about an hour in college station, Arkansas talking to Greg Marshall, they no idea whether they can rest him away from which toss state you have the Vanderbilt with an opening LSU presumably will have an opening as well. But just a some thoughts with Cal now signed up for this lifetime and eight others. What do you make out of the SEC right now? Yeah. You know, I I said it on social media yesterday at Aaron underscore Torres. And a lot of people got mad at me certainly from ADD country. I think this is the best collection coaches in college basketball. I really do. I believe it's something like of the, you know, fourteen schools, and frankly, there's only twelve schools that even have head coaches, I think like seven or eight of them have either been to a final four or an elite eight many of them, including obviously, John Calipari multiple. And in look everyone's at a different stage in their career Mike white at the beginning. Rick Barnes is more towards the end. Bruce pros more towards the end. But I looked at it yesterday. And there's only two coaches in the SEC right now who have never been to the second weekend of the NCAA tournament as a head coach one is NATO who had buffalo in the top twenty all season long. I was just scrolling your Twitter feed. Apparently a lot of people in Alabama think he's the Nick Sabin of basketball palm. Yeah. Yeah. I saw those callers I won't go quite that. Far. But obviously what he did is incredible. And for him to be kind of the young guy. That's gotta prove himself. But then kind of the second guy is Kermit Davis. You've never been to the second weekend. And he's a guy who owed by the way took ole miss from last place last year into the tournament this year. So I think the league is healthy as it's ever been like you said, we'll see what Arkansas vandy and probably LSU do, but it is an unbelievable collection coaches. And I think that's only going to continue to be the case as the next couple does get built and Erin to coaches who just got fired Billy Kennedy and Mike Anderson. Both took teams Anderson took multiple teams to the second weekend. So there is that let's let's let's let me ask you about a couple of other situations, namely LSU that has been one of the most bizarre stories of the year in college basketball on the eve of what looks like a serious run by the Tigers will Wade gets jettisoned. He still hanging in the balance. Has not been fired LSU fans thinking should be retained most reasonable experts think he should be long gone. What do you think? Yeah. I mean, I think I just kind of side with, you know, look, I mean, whatever you think you did. Or did not do if you're we'll wait. And you know, I like, well, I've been around them a little bit. I I'm sure you have to call. You know, when you meet with your boss, and you repute refused to pick up their phone calls. I don't really know what they're supposed to do. So I I actually think LSU is probably doing this the right way waiting to see what gets presented at trial potentially on April twenty second. But you know, I'm in the camp of you know, I supported we'll wait, you know, I when when this allegation, I came out, I said, look, this is a report of a recording that as best we know. Nobody's heard. And you know, I I kind of said like let's pump the brakes, you know, ESPN at a similar story was Shawn Miller last year. And I know, you know, I'm not accusing anyone of anything negative. But but some of that turn out to be incorrect. And so I said, let's pump the brakes, but I also kind of a realist in the sense that I'm willing to hear. We'll wait side of the. Story. But when you're not willing to meet with your bosses, and I know there's lawyers involved, and there's people probably advising him. But when you're not willing to meet with your boss, it's hard for me to be you as much of a sympathetic figure. It is just a bizarre situation though. Call for all the reasons you mentioned one the will Wade aspect of it too. Devante smart. Get eligible for the tournament and NCAA tournament three school goes on the run. So it's been a fascinating, you know, four or five weeks, whatever it's been in Baton Rouge. But I I think other people have said this on your show, but I would be stunned if we'll wait was the head coach the next time LSU takes the court in November December here in Torres from Fox Sports air, let me turn over to John Calipari. The best known and easily considered the best coach in the SEC. May maybe for long Bruce parole wins the national championship. But I have to ask you about the quote, unquote, life time contract, whatever that means. And especially the timing of it coming literally hours after. Losing to Auburn in another elite eight. Yeah. No. It was weird. And obviously, look, you know, and I lived in LA. And I thought a lot was made of you know, the offer from UCLA being insulting. You know? I don't think that the million over six years is insulting insurance imagination. Even though through was a little bit of a pay cut. You know, I'll be honest. I I don't know that I really have a problem with this from Kentucky's aspect, I know a lot of people seem to think that it was cow. Pulling power play, you know, using UCLA is leverage. But like if you're Kentucky if it does allow you to not have to deal with rumors every year to not have to deal with NBA teams coming after him too. By the way, not have to deal with as he approaches. His sixtieth birthday. You know recruits. Wondering is calbury gonna leave before I start my college career before I end, my college career, look, you know, this guy in and you know, this ball you've been around him is this guy is the perfect guy for that job. In terms of all the responsibilities not only on the board but off of. As as well as anybody that I've ever seen. And I I would say anybody that I can imagine in college basketball. So you know, you would hope that as this thing wind down six seven eight nine years from now Calipari has the wherewithal where if he does take a step back on the court that like I said he has the wherewithal to say, okay, I'll step aside before it gets ugly. I I don't know that I really have a problem with it though. I mean, it it's a perfect fit with the coach in the school. I know you wanna win another national championship or two, and you expect that, but I mean, look, you know, statistically, there really has been no better coaching college basketball during that stretch than calbury. And if you wanna make sure that he's yours until the day. He steps away as you said fall his lifetime in the next one to like, I really honestly have no problem with it. Let's end where we began in Minneapolis take us through Saturday and Monday night whose whose left standing Saturday and then late Monday night yet. You know, I I'm going to be kind of cliche. Here. You know, even with all burn today. They obviously start with Virginia that early game. You know, I I'll be honest is that even Bruce Pearl kind of about the to mo- KiKi injury. And how they didn't really have time to think about how are we going to strategize. How were we get a game plan without one of our versatile and most important players and at the same time like Kentucky didn't really have time to kind of do that. I think now that Virginia has a week. Look, you could say what you want. It's not the sexiest kind of style of play excetera. What I do think that they have Dave kind of go over it, how to limit allburn, etc. Over my late in even shoot that well against Kentucky. So I like Virginia. And then in the second game, you know, Michigan state, Texas Tech. Like, I said I spent a lot of time on Texas Tech at the west regional last year. Put something about this. You know, just says Michigan state, you know, they played good defense. Just like, Texas Tech. They got a little more pop on offense. And frankly, they've been over achieving all year they've lost several several guys injury. So. So it kinda cliche. It's kind of boring, but I do like the two favorites the one seed in the to see that are here to advance the Monday night here in great to have you on again hope to see soon always fun to chat. Thanks have a good day. Great stuff Aaron tours outstanding writer from Fox Sports, and we're up against the break. But before we do that. There may be some news coming out of Baton Rouge. Ross Dellinger nobody covers that scene better. Now. At sl saying that LSU, and we'll wait or working toward a meeting and initial step and potential path to a reinstatement sources tell us. I wait has a new attorney Stephen Thompson who also represents Bruce Pearl in Shawn Miller, he is leading the effort. So we'll try to get some more on that story. You're listening to the Paul finebaum show podcast. Jeanette in Mississippi Hilo Janette. This is Janette. I would like to hear Paul. Been fun nam to say one good thing about boosts Pearl. He has won almost the championship national championships and nothing good has come about him saying anything about Bruce PERC. Hi. Wow. That would really be hard for me Ginette to say something good about Bruce Pearl. Why is that? You tell me. Oh, I'm sure I'm curious. I'm curious what you've been listening to pretty much for the last ten years when or fourteen years since I've been talking about Bruce Pearl and had been close friends with Bruce Pearl. Well, I'm not you. But if you've been close could you say you've been goes friends when you never say then good about the guy ordering where where have you heard me say about him? I'm really interested in. That's why not to you say is a shofar say is back up in there, you come out now, and you can't support you're going to support a Jinya. I just heard you. Let me let me let me offer. This. There is a big difference between how one feels about an individual. And I've already said how I feel about Bruce. And I think most people that know, me and know him know how we feel about each other in predicting a college basketball game. Well, I understand why you can't because it's a chip in ships is coming from Auburn and John. Janette might my when somebody asked me a question, my responsibility. I think is to give an honest answer not to tailor the answer to specific fan base. Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe my career will die on the vine today. But, but I've always believed very strongly that objectivity and speaking honestly versus maybe a polar cater what's not one sided when somebody says who do you think is going to win a game. And I offer an opinion. Okay. I cannot pull in Auburn. Well, see I never said I wasn't pulling for Auburn. I simply said who I think is going to win the game. There is a big distinction. Okay. Well, I just like to hear you say one thing about allburn while I'm gonna say because I'm going to say I'm gonna say true things to genetic. I have two words for you. Okay. Okay. War eagle. M is up next. You know, Paul listen to Jeanette. I'm not sure what she's been listening to. I mean been more than a comma dating to Auburn in sands and especially coaching the basketball team the football team. And when people ask your opinion, you give it you know, it never bothers me. We've been talking for a long time. You're only listen, I think maybe I I think there must be I think there's just too many homers on radio and television who give disingenuous takes and when somebody by the way, I love Bruce Pearl. I think you, you know, we we have known each other since he arrived in Knoxville, and the very first time we met, you know, what our conversation was about. Not said Paul you've gotta do me a favor. I know we just met we've talked before on the phone, but but you, oh it to me to change your mind and embrace lane kiffin as the Tennessee head football. Coach Bruce was at ten I said, I don't think I could do that Bruce. But I mean, he, you know, listen, the Jeanette I don't I really don't know what planet she's living on. But you know, when somebody says who do you think is going to win a basketball game? And you give an opinion you, you know, I'm that doesn't mean you're not. I mean, how would I why would I not only pulling for Auburn, and then and, you know, Las Vegas and all the professionals have their picked Virginia doesn't bother me because overs got forty minutes to prove everybody's and that's and that's it. I'm not I am not an expert in in anything. I just offer. Opinions. That's all that's it. And that's what everybody's gotten. Everybody's got one. And then you know, it most nobody uses them to you know, yesterday them. We'll use mine today yesterday when Jeff calls did Bama Nick step outside the line. Did he step off and bite off more than he could ever possibly chew? Listen Bama, Nick, if you call in you might want to start with some of the newbies like Linda somebody like that that was way that wasn't fair. I meant you remember whenever back in the day when you know, you'd have small small cities, and they would have what was called tough-guy boxing. Yeah. That we just gave us like back thirty years ago or twenty five years ago, Nick walking in and take it on butterbean. No, it was more like walking and Cam Brady say Marcia, Marcia Marcia, and he fell out no more. I mean, how many times is he walked into ring and had his lights not doubt. I don't know that he's got any lights lift. Please don't do that. And listen, Paul. We helped me with this. I'm in. I'm going to be making you're going to be key. No, you need to say something you say something, and this is for Bama, Nick. And I must say, hey, you say, hey, okay. Say it. Hey, hey, you. Hey you. Get off my cloud. I'm always were there. Hey, one last thing before you go is there if we were paring Nick in a in a tournament. Is there someone we could find that? He could he could whip. Well, regain be Keith Richards because Keith rich is going to be forever. Yeah. I mean, I mean, I'm just thinking of somebody like you talking about bam. Bam. Bam next. Oh, linda. Okay. Suddenly start crying. You can't live to or sugar pie. That have a great afternoon, Paul. Okay. Great to hear from. You're listening to Paul finebaum show podcast. Some breaking news from Louisiana. We're about to get to it. We gave you the the headline of Ross Dellinger's latest in Sports Illustrated, and we want to welcome in Ross right now because this is according to him fairly dramatic shift. Ross always great to have you on. We we we talked a little bit about your tweet. We we've already your story, but it's a it's a complicated situation that has been going on now for nearly a month in Baton Rouge. We'll take it from the top. What is going on down there? Well, yeah. Just to I guess you could say to to bits of new information had kind of a merged relaxed day or so number one. We'll wait at the new attorney and the turning Stephen Thompson who might not be familiar to your listeners, but his other clients are very familiar at all of Bruce Pearl in Shawn Miller, both kind of caught in this deal similar to will Wade situation. So that's the first bit of news. The second bid is that Stephen Thompson, just as he did with boost Pearl eventually, and and you did with showing Miller, I think is agreeing working towards a meeting with his client will wait LSU, so we'll waive last attorney kind of honestly shut the door on LSU and in that led obviously to suspension we're now under. I'm now understanding that Stephen is pushing toward a meeting. So now that doesn't mean everything, you know, we'll gonna be reinstated. I think he's got to cooperate. And as you know, all this is not just in LSU investigation. It's an NCAA investigation to the NCAA and LSU has said on record is going to be involved at every single interview, they do, and as we all know NCAA investigations drag out. So it's not something that's going to be quick. But it is a positive step in a long process here. It is positive positive Rossmo. But let me ask you. I mean is it too late? I don't think so in his funny 'cause then goes home with you last week. And and you asked me if it will wait, whatever, you know, be be LSU would come back to the coach again. And I said, you know, I feel like relationship is irreparable. And I did I felt like that in and still you know, way kind of feel like that. And I see where you're coming from with that question. You know, these two entities have kinda loud. Not I don't wanna say grenades at each other. But they they've they've kinda called out one another in the media will wait with a statement a couple of weeks ago and LSU kinda gave like an ultimatum to them in public and the media. So it's been weird. It is it is a bizarre situation, but I didn't intimate. We'll we'll would changing attorneys, and that seems to be part of the difference here. But it it should be noted. You know at LSU administrators have wanted to meet where we'll wait for for twenty eight days. And they have wanted to meet with them. They have you know, I don't wanna say bag, but they they really have pushed to meet with him. And they tried to get him to understand his former attorneys to understand how important it was just to come in and meet and it took a it took a lawyer change. I guess by will to to get this gone. But it's it's obviously a long way from being resolved. Let's go beyond that nugget in your story, especially concerning a lot of the emails, a potential other coaches. I know it's a long story. But would you mind highlighting some of the other nuggets? Because there were there were plenty to go around Ross. Yeah. Yeah. We did a just, you know, old fashioned public records request for emails full from to LSU's president athletic director, Joe leave president f king Alexander Indian the board of supervisors in got got, you know, most of them were angry fan, you know, disgruntled fans threatening or either planning to pull their financial support and let we'll wait was is reinstated. A lot of them demanding that Joe Aleve enough. King step down a lot of the same things. We saw in that Kenneth c game on on on television. You know, just an Email forum. But one Email struck me as. It's really interesting fall. And it was an Email from an agent or from a sports agency that represents Mike Davis. The former Indiana head basketball coach she's now at Detroit mercy, and he it was an Email to Joe leaving verge ause berry the associated who does a lot of hiring, and it expressed my Davis's interest in replacing real weighed in the Email came ninety minutes. Well way suspension was announced. I couldn't help me do the same thing. You just did when that came across. And I got that in my inbox earlier this week. Hey, Asians, man. They don't mess around. They don't waste time. No. I mean, the the old line is. I mean at least let the body be cold. But but my Dave is considering I mean, he's had quite a path through college basketball. So I don't blame him for wanting that job. Well, let's let's try to chisel all this down. Then it's not easy. And I realized you set a lot already if you if you look at the story quickly, you tend to maybe believe there's a resolution not far around the corner. But but realistically, what do you expect to happen next? Well, I mean, they're gonna meet, you know, wish I knew at time line for that. But I do not it sounds like it is going to be soon within a matter of days, maybe even hours, so they're gonna meet, and that's it's just the first step in a in a long process. So I mean, it could be it could be weeks. You know, one thing is, you know, devante smart when the LSU guard when he was withheld from play for an investigation to look into things with him. It lasted a week that was an expedited deal in a little more narrowed focus than we'll wait investigation would entail. So if you look at that if that was a week and it happened during the season with expedited this thing, we will could last several weeks, you know, it could in in which would needs to be said here, and what I've written in the story. A couple of times it is imperative that that he fully cooperate, you know, with with the NCAA and would LSU win. He comes in to meet, you know, it's just like somebody told me earlier today. Yeah. He walks in the door. All the sudden, you know, we're going to reinstate him kind of thing. He he's got to cooperate. It involves documents tons of interviews all that stuff. So we're we're always off. I think but it certainly is an initial step and in maybe him returning. Ross final question, assuming they do me, and you know, with his new attorney who's dealt with some difficult clients in the past in terms of what they were facing. How do you expect or what do you expect? We'll wait to say to them when they ask him about what's on those wiretaps. Boy. Yeah. I wish I knew that answer that that's kind of the million dollar question. What what is he going to say? You know, I'll tell you. He's got a he's got an attorney that is well versed in answering those type of questions, right? I mean, Shawn Miller was in a similar deal, and Bruce Pearl was in not as much the center of the deal. No, his assistance were more involved. But Stephen Thompson has a a lot of experience in handling those types of questions, and I'm sure right now as we speak there is communication. It hasn't been communication between Steven in. We'll wait about how to handle those type of questions. But I don't know what he's gonna say. Because certainly the transcript is damning. And you know, I think that's a big reason why up until now who, you know, his previous attorney had had demanded that he'd not. Go in and talk. But that's certainly with that one thing in the story. I haven't mentioned on here Paul is that you know. And I felt a kind of an NCAA expert at didn't quote him in that story. But I kinda wrote some things he told me NCA investigation expert of we'll wait continue to hold out in not speak. He could be he could be hit with a an ethical conduct and failure to cooperate with an investigation. And we all we all know what what that brings. And that's the dreaded show. 'cause so there was impetus for him to get in and get going and looks like you know, action is is accident starting the ball rolling. Great stuff. Always a always fun to to not not fun, always informative. I should say rod maybe fun for someone to catch up with you. Great story. In sl. You can read it on dot com. And we will talk again, very soon. Thank you very much. Ron ross. No problem. Thank. Yeah. Listen. You can go out and hire new attorneys every week. But are you rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic or you making significant change? That is the question. We will try to answer that in the in the next hour and forty five minutes a little bit of news. But I would say just an opinion near Ross is more knowledgeable than I am. But he's still long way from being reinstated. I think you listening to Paul finebaum show podcast. The Auburn Tigers just two days away from taking on the university of Virginia. Let's get back to the calls at eight five five to four to seven to eight five and Tim is in Cupertino, California. Tim, Paul how are you all my legal? This is not just some Tim. This is Tim cook. The CEO of of apple, and of course, everyone's favourite Auburn fan, Tim. It's great to have you on. And I can only imagine your level of excitement for your alma mater. I could not be more thrilled. And you're not really which the best to coach Pearl and the entire team. We are incredibly proud of them. I got to such a kick out of you the other night. I'm not sure I would call it sparring. It was very good natured fun with the chairman and CEO of. I think it was Cisco who is a UNC. Chuck Roberts is a UNC fan. I haven't seen you too often. Battling with people on Twitter about college basketball, which you know, it was Carolina and it was over. And so you know, it was a it was such a sweet victory for us. It was it was amazing. Listen, I I think it's pretty well established. You've been very busy in the news. But I I am interested because I've seen some of your tweets just if you could take us back to both of those games and how you were able to consume them. And and I would imagine you were quite quite excited. And I know very proud o- on on believably. So yes, so I was yelling so loud. I think my neighbors thought that something that happened to me. I remember when we sat down with you a couple years ago, you told a similar stories about some Auburn football games. But I would think by now your your neighborhood is well aware of your of your phantom. Would that be a fair statement? I don't know about that. You know, it's not every day somebody yells war eagle and people don't exactly know how to react to that. In california. How what are your plans for for Saturday in terms of viewing this game Saturday? I'll be watching on TV, and I plan to be there impersonal Monday. Oh my goodness. Well, that's a that's a pretty big scoop and a major commitment. Well, listen, I know you have a lot going on. I don't want to keep you. But I can't thank you for sharing your your excitement with the rest of the audience on the program, and we are going to be watching very closely. If Auburn gets his I've got by the way, when you were at Auburn, I'm trying to remember the program in the in the eighties was just starting to percolate if I remember right before Barkley got there and Barkley really went when he was there. It was he really started a huge change in. And and we're back to that. Which is fantastic. I've I've seen you interact with coach malzahn, I I'm interested in your thoughts about the Bruce Pearl because he has been such an inspiration. It's a classic case of someone who was on top got knocked down. And is right back rolling toward the final four today. Yeah. I think I think BRUCE'S unoriginal, and there's nobody quite like him. And I think he's energized the program like no one, quite frankly that I've ever seen in Auburn history and has brought the basketball team to to be a contender. And I think we're all proud of him in in terms of just an I'll I'll contain this to Auburn. But you you are such an interesting fan, especially for someone in your position. And I brought up to the situation the other night because when she does get together, I realized there are far more important things to discuss when when when when those meetings occurred, but. When you're with a CEO of of another major company does athletics enter into the conversation. When when there was time, you know, take I think sports is still a great unifier. And so it's one thing that we can all rally around and people put their other interest aside to either fight the other side or to hopefully, join forces. And and so yeah, of course, sports always comes up CEO's are people too. They they love sports too. I'm glad you said that because I think so too often we end up, you know, we we see and you've been, you know, so prominent lately with so many of Apple's new endeavors, and I've seen you with people from every walk of life. But I think sometimes we forget which you just got through saying, but but I know you're a sports fan because I watch out here and I listened in. You're always so complementary to to all programs when when you get the opportunity so again Saturday, you'll be watching Monday night, you will be in the arena. That's have you been doing national championship game. If assuming Auburn wins I have been to one before I I saw Duke will win back years ago. Yeah. And Indianapolis, you know, I I I wish spur this here on our network, but you do have a degree from from Duke as well. I do and you know, my bracket had Auburn and Duke and the final. That's amazing. You would have been in quite a quite a predicament. Tim if hip Duke could advance in Auburn it advanced. But you know, the way I looked at it. You can't lose. That that that is pretty remarkable. I I know considering your your your Duke fan as well you when the Carolina game was over. I'm sure you. You got a big smile your face. It exactly exactly. It's like is like Auburn beating Alabama. Well, that does happen occasionally to listen. I can't thank you. I've had as you know, a number of surprise calls in my in my career. I don't think I've ever had one quite to this to degree or extent. And I will never forget getting a call from Tim from Cupertino, California knowing that was you best wishes to you as always in. And I hope to see you Monday night in Minneapolis. I hope so too. And thank you for all you do. And thanks to all your listeners out there. More eagle where you go from Tim cook. Thank you, Tim hopes about well. Men. For those. We don't know the backstory marquee back who is the producer of the show. And I spent some some time. Couple of days, I might add with Tim cook about two years ago in Auburn doing the very first of our homecoming series. I had met him at J Jacob's house a couple of years ago with his nephew and. He's just one of the most fascinating people. And and what a cool thing that was. I mean, I I think it speaks for itself. What what he's done and the the impact and influence that he has on the world. Well, I'm going to have to find myself recover here. After after that one. That's really really really neat. Let's grab a Clinton next. It's tough fouling. Tim cook Clinton next in Rome, Georgia go right ahead. Good evening. Just had a couple of things ours. Wanting to mention just sitting here driving and thinking about Auburn being in the final four, I'm an Alabama fan basketball fans who and just thought about Cami was just kinda thinking, you know, I've listened you guys for years and just kind of thinking, you know, how she responded into Aldrin being in the final four. I I could just imagine her screaming and yelling war. Yeah. I have to tell you Quint. I thought about that Sunday, and it was pretty emotional thinking about because she she would've. She would found a way there promise you. I remember when Auburn went to the national championship game in twenty ten she she drove out to California, or maybe it was the. Where did they play for? It was Arizona. I'm sorry. Yeah. They they they they want an Arizona, and she drove out there without a ticket. And I don't remember whether she I think she did get finally getting the game. And it was pretty extrordinary hearing those stories, but I'm I'm glad you brought her up she so special to this program, and we miss her every day. You're listening to the Paul finebaum show podcast. Hey, it's Dan Patrick here to tell you about the Dan Patrick school. The sportscasting up teamed up with full sail university to create a sportscasting bachelor's degree you work both on and behind the cameras and you build skills for the future of sports. So you can connect with audiences. No matter where they are or how they're tuning in learn more about full sail. Universities Dan, Patrick school to sportscasting by going to full sail dot EDU slash ESPN. We have had pretty much murderers row here in the last few minutes. We just got a call from Tim cook. The CEO of apple talking about his beloved Tigers. And now we have dick vitelle who was a made official yesterday that he will receive the lifetime sports. Emmy and New York in may, and the dicta we can congratulate you to the end of time. But I don't think we'll do Justice. Congratulations again. Well, thank you pull really cook on it. I would love to listen cooked. Favorite? We could switch back accounts. Yeah. He we we we've got a little bit over the years, and he just called us out of the blue the he said he's going to be in Minneapolis Monday night. If is if the if Auburn can beat Virginia, which is I guess where I'm going to ask you next gives your view of that early game in Minneapolis. Well, I'm doing that game. You don't do the first game Bill due to second day. But don't do the TOPIX a Monday night. You know, I think really paper right now, obviously, you look off burn rely solely to your bullshit leadership who's Pearl got sick and chance obviously after five years to issue, we could dot coach the collegiate level that he took advantage of it who would ever believe I put it up on Twitter pool. Think about this would ever believe in a better of about ten days that offer look at football. Now, we're not talking Bo Jackson avenue in all we're taught to basketball that they would be Kansas, Kentucky and North Carolina. I think about that. But believable what they achieve and you kinda amount. I thought for sure gets could took up trouble because that will keep on the inside to try and battle with spikes washer. Did I thought it only chance would have we would make at least twelve threes. They advertise about Olympic Gabe. It makes. Agrees that game. But they're going off the charts route at Harper with the fifty points. But I think it'd be tough for them to do just that tech line. Defense of Virginia Virginia's gonna definitely slowed down. They're not really get up and down to court, and I think back to be a little different. Well, you don't those kids out? Now know you can't everyone I think thought Friday night at the after the Carolina game that oh KiKi being out was was going to be critical. But sometimes dick, and I'm really interested where you are here. And you know, the the quick turnaround. You just somehow will your way to victory, but with the week to prepare it will be a different situation as you said just I want to get your thoughts on on Bruce. Because a lot of people wondered, and I know we talked about at the time when he went to Auburn because it it seemed like a long shot. It seemed it getting to the final four long shot for everyone. But what makes him so unique in and especially from a motivational stamp when he? Seems to get these players believing. They can do things that maybe they shouldn't be able to do. Well, that's a good analysis. Right there you give all he really does that ability motivated. He's everywhere he's ever been whether it be southern Indiana spoil, he's won every place has been took Tennessee pixie over year to the Twitter was there, and it was his mistakes that really cost about job better. I think it'd be there forever. Be made those mistakes the NCI paid his dues. He get a second opportunity for people get second chance. I really am. I I think like we have a tendency when a guys down at out we beat up beat up, and we don't let them come back like Tinos going through that right now. He's like his case. Think about it. I put a quarter to a lot of people don't agree with me. But that's cool. I can understand that you know, he's never been in swish record rested. He's never had a show course rich number out of storage. We have a set off five years about coach. But yet because everybody he should know. What is he should have? No, he's like a rise. He's already paid to use his coaching life. And I would like to see a spoon give him an opportunity like they get Kelvin sips and roll call. But it was situation provident yet as well. But yet used to give a chance and he took advantage of it. And a CPA groups I salute guys the ticket what come to your way instead of being up. I love people. I love people. I mean, she didn't because because you we've been spending a lot of time here on this program talking about the Woolwich situation. We don't know everything. But what we know is pretty pretty scary. And I know you've offered him opinions on that as well is that a different situation. Then Rick continues, totally. Different totally unique because he's on tape with the FBI little talk about Lisa, go assistant. He's on tape. They're talking about the fact talking plenty football players would have been sleazy dying back on the edge. I mean that is serious stuff. But I mean, I I hope appraisement things we're not being able to believe the, but I can't see it. I just cannot see where he's not going to get penalized seriously about that. And then you know, really to brand what I would talk to the other day. Really? When you think about LSU the routes the fire immediately unin slip supported Asian. He refused to go to meeting with the president yet. They didn't do that. They suspended a I think the spinach really, I don't know. I was really disappointed to hear the fans enchanting Joel must go. What what it can be? I mean, guys guys sit right? Think he said this by thirty centers. And you know, I I thought it would a job, and I was on radio heated here. Up at LSU. They really do their job. And I like Bill issues Blair's light thima flights the program for years of the deal Brown. But I'm only affects stop me saying, we'll wait created his own problems. But just listening. If listening read his comments, we have heard the actual is boys who read the comments are unbelievable. Yeah. I I read about your your appearance down. There it sounded like it got pretty heave. But that's one thing about you, dick. I mean, you give your opinion. You're you're passionate. You've always have been. And that's why I think you know, you being honored in New York, and you're in your in your being outed, so many other places because of what you've done, and and the fact. I don't wanna hurt anybody. I really don't let that guy. Have you talk about a class review? It's chaotic I also play Minneapolis into fads the whole bit there so friendly so great. But I do it interview ready whose pull twice to sit. If you promised I would do it and play plane landed just type by duty interview here pork with ready for this alleged alleged of all time at journalism. Sid Hartman, you know, cinema shirt to what was maybe maybe to open. He just turned ninety dollars. The look he makes me say like a diaper debt that he's new he's by two zero ninety nine go, look, I'll be eighty ready for this. I would it be eighty and another was another month another I'll be eighty or eighty. Oh my goodness. About twelve eighty. I can't believe it. I can't. I mean, I'm interested because I mean, dick, you're seventy nine years old. You don't seem like any of that phases. You. I love people. I keep in shape. I I love being around. You know, really people ask me now writers, you know, what seems to be a key part of lead is Tuesday as energy pressure for what I do whenever you do something you love, it's not working life while the work, man. You press coats factory came all sweatshop. They walked the wolf from six to twelve basically that was his job security doesn't work. What about till up? Get up get paid Saturday a Monday it quits to be on the ESPN at tonight all over the world talking about the states took it about a game. I love and get paid for it about could want to play about that. I've been so blessed look, but crap goes up, my friend get aches now little aches near the lakes, but basically what else third off at seven in the morning on sports center and a couple of band appearances to make glove you sign autographs and fix them money. Kit. You actually. Some for life. This isn't it? It's not really always morning grow to complaint. Rip people at people. I'm just not that kind of guy. Well, I'm gonna let you rest your voice because you got a lot more to do. But we always appreciate you checking with us addict get crew relations again on the on the EMMY and thank you as always you've been talking. I've been talking for something like that. I sit here and all I don't believe that Lee guys on that to listen Howard Cosell on bad and Keith Jackson. Oh my God. I look at that list that I I'd be getting sick. 'cause I never went on good casting thinking about something like that. But we're going to be pulled before I go, you know, I was going to get this out. More important reason money for kids battling cancer. It's going to be a special night of may ten. We the out tickets going crazy. Anybody wants to Mason could just call nine one three five oh five ADL, Dabo Sweeney. It'd be one of our headline is to honor. Basically all the money. I'm raisins for kids battle cancer. Anybody wants to vote a copy of my new book by mount Rushmore is the basketball just go to pick by tau on my dot com. And if you did what it rough copy, and every dollar, I just said another check with thirty six thousand already off to the foundation early seals of a book. So again, they can help me help kids. Always a pleasure. Dick have a great weekend in Minneapolis. Well, what would you do you go back a long way that you go back to my days when I say what you go. Oh, yeah. Now, I we'll sit around and talk about that one. Because it was a major. Oh, speaking to the right to speak to the team. I was in tears listening. I wish I wish the whole world could could listen to you. When you talk to those players. We'll we'll have pre sheet that buddy dick had a Ray weekend. We'll talk to you soon. Thanks, take care dig vitality and put a combination Tim cook, dick Flatow who would have thought. It's only Thursday. Thank you. For listening to the Paul finebaum show podcast. The Paul finebaum show airs weekdays on the SEC network beginning at three eastern.

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"The Paul finebaum show podcast is brought to you by capital. One capital. One is reimagining banking offering account with no fees or minimums that can be opened in five minutes capital. One. What's in your wallet capital? One NA member FDIC. Cried passion than patterns re of college football leaves here. This is the Paul finebaum show. Best of podcast. We welcome you back to the programs, but a couple of days glad you're here. And we had a great day yesterday in Birmingham. We'll talk more about that later talk to Nick Sabin, Kirby, smart Gus malzahn unit, and we will have some of those interviews for you probably tomorrow. We have a busy show on tap today. A lot of conversation of including Tim Brando, later on Gary perish talking about the end of the trial in New York. Some Georgia Florida conversation and been Kercheval from CBS sports. It's not a very interesting deep dive into coaching world. And especially we've seen the predictable. And even pro Zach coaching rankings. Ben is on something a little different for his website. And we're delighted to welcome to the program. Ben. Thanks, thanks for being here. So it's been too long. Listen, the easiest thing in the world is just two ranked coaches you. Chose the road less traveled. We say Hello to you. And please explain because I you did it in a way. I I have never seen before good afternoon. Thank you, Paul actually got the idea of you is back ago from Elliot off Espy nation and she's brought up. I think a really good point about ranking coaches, which is that when you're trying to just do your your regular top twenty five or top whatever, and I should say that sports dot com. We went ahead and ranked all sixty five power power, five coaches. But for me when you're trying to put one guy next to another sometimes, they're not always measured by the same standards. I mean, Nick Sabin and Bill Snyder when he was a Kansas state. We're not measured by the same six because they weren't doing the same thing. So for me, I thought maybe a more accurate way, or at least an attempt to be a little bit more accurate with to put them in different categories with others. I guess like coaches and not. Way. Maybe we can better if we're going to rent these guys to actually better judge them based on what they've accomplished. And maybe what the expectations are for what they need to accomplish. So so the top tier you you you call it the Bryant tier and to the surprise of maybe no one alive. Nick Sabin is number one there. Followed by Daboh, JIMBO, Fisher, Lincoln Riley. And Kirby smart, I would think after after Nick Sabin, Davos, the obvious one. How do you differentiate when once you get beyond the top two coaches? Yeah, that's tough because that actually was almost going to be a tear in and of itself because they are the two coaches right now who are heading shoulders above everybody. But I tried to twin just a little bit more than that. I hear based on coaches at programs that are looking to do similar things and have guys who even if they're very young in their career have accomplished a lot. That's where you know, Lincoln Riley and Kirby smart. Obviously, JIMBO Fisher has the national championship at four to state. You're gonna look to try to get something going more at Texas saying them. So I put him in there. Just because he's an act of coach with a national title urban Meyer would have been in that chair last year. Curvy smart, and Lincoln Riley or two of the more controversial picks because they've only been at a Georgia and Oklahoma for three two years. So for Lincoln Riley. It was well he's he's been to play offs already has two Heisman winners to number one overall picks with Cuyler and Baker. So in just a couple of years, and he's actually even in exception to a rule that I laid out which is I like to have coaches with at least three years of experience before I would even consider them to be put into a coaching tear. But I put him in that too because he's already done so much he's recruiting very well. I mean, they're always going to be near or at the top of the big twelve vine for playoff spot. So I think just based on his accomplishments. So far. He's he's earned a spot in that section. And then for Kirby smart. I mean, he's lost Nick Sabin twice. But man, he's led those games for almost the entire way. And then was a two time go by Loa throw away from winning a national championship a couple years ago. He's recruiting at the level, or at least near the level of favoring laughing other people in the SEC east, Dr back division titles won the conference championship a couple years ago. So I I think he has that program exactly where they wanna be. And you know, you're starting to see his coaching tree branch out a little bit too with no pucker getting the job at Colorado. So all the things that we've seen in saving it out Obama. And and LSU I think you're starting to already see out of Kirby, Georgia. Okay. There are never other tiers. We'll we'll kind of zip through them a little quick more quickly. The the next tears berry. Alvarez you have Peterson Gary Patterson Brian Kelly, David Shaw, what's this one all about? This one is just really more of a wide casting net. Who are the power five coaches who are winning and doing so successfully a couple of the people that I really under I guess under ranked under appreciated last year. One of them was Brian Kelly. I think when you look at the totality of his career. He he really deserves to be named amongst the the better coaches at that level, especially getting back to a playoff last year. I know I know they got beat by Clemson pretty good. But getting there getting there is a big accomplishment. And then another one is Pat FitzGerald I made the grave that day. I don't even know how I didn't rank and they're a year ago what he's done at northwestern is obviously incredible. So those are guys who were really just had a lot more sustained success, and those were two that I I really feel like deserve a little bit more praise than maybe they've been giving nationally. Those are really good coaches the next here his is a little bit different because we start we we call. This you call this the Howard show. Burger to your the great coach who was at Miami winning the national championship, and and ultimately, Oklahoma, Louisville and and FAU. This guys are all great. You have Bill Kark, Dave, Clawson, cut cliff and Jeff Mahnken at the top. But these are not well as well known as well. No because they're, but they're program builders, and you look at what Duke was before quick took over my goodness army was was just in a rut before just Mahnken took over and you get even down to the list a little bit. You get a guy like not rule Baylor. And Baylor was doing great when our brows was there. But obviously with the scholarship, you know, losses in guys leaving the program. I mean, they were just really really down in the dumps, and they were terrible coverings playing walk on the defensive side of the ball. And you know, he had been going back to bowl eligibility last season. So I think you get a guy like him and what he did it temple he's deserving. Some recognition Dino babies getting choose to ten wins. So, you know, some of these guys could be considered up enough coaches. But I think right now, they're really just more known as as program building type guy. The next one Lavelle Edwards. Great BYU coach who wanted championship. These guys are getting it done outside the power five. You have rocky long Tedford who's been in the power five. And then you had some very familiar coaches who are more rebound on the rebound like Charlie long. And of course, Butch Davis. So what what's the best way to describe this group? I think for buying large most of the not all of them. But most of these guys are probably not going to be moving up the coaching ladder. You mentioned some of them are kind of the retread Charlie Strong's, Jeff Tedford, maybe guys who at some point coach power five. It just didn't work out for whatever reason. And now there's there's sort of back in the game. But maybe at a place that's a little bit better form or you get needed guy like Brian Hartson who maybe he could move up the ladder. But he's doing very well, Boise state. It's home for him. He's going to be there for very long time. So these are just guys who are doing very well outside of this power five conferences, but maybe not necessarily looking to move up, but it doesn't necessarily diminish the kind of coaches that they are. I mean can need noon dot how God me and Tom Awo at. Navy? I mean, he's had a couple of slipping seasons. But he still the all time winningest coach in that program's history in probably could have had another couple of power five jobs as well. So again guys looking to accomplish maybe different things than high level power five guys. But certainly not any less of a coach I'll tell you about Kercheval about the way he is broken things down the next. I'm just fascinated by this Yano to your these are the coaches moving up, and you you start with Scott Satterfield who a lot of people have been watching very closely for years of mad Campbell. Who seems like he's already made it Brahm Norville Neil Brown. PJ Fleck who was the hottest coach of the country a couple years ago in lane kiffin who's been there a couple of different times. Yeah. So he these are the coaches who I don't necessarily think they're going to stay at that. They're, you know, either current location or they just got there for Golic and you'll Brown or Satterfield. I think these guys are the ones moving up. The coaching ladder. I mean Braun could could they have the red carpet rolled out for him at at Louisville. I mean, he could have been there if if you wanted to I don't think his job offers going to end anytime soon, I think you'll Brown wins at West Virginia. There's already been a lot of early rave about how he's really changed that program up post Dana Holger, San I think he's eventually going to find someplace where where he can go, and they'd have lots excess West Virginia is a tough place to win. But I think she's the kind of guy who can who can get it done there. So these are just the up and comers. And I think these are the types of coaches who they're in this tier now, but you in the next few years, you're probably going to see them in probably that more of that Barry Alvarez here the final one the gym nor the gym or tier juries out. And the number one guy. Here's Gus malzahn. We'll have him with a tomorrow. You don't want to be number one on this list, especially when you've been at your school, a considerable amount of time you've gotten a contract extension, but you also know. That if you don't have a big year, you will probably be working at ESPN next year. And on top of that. I think he was in the Barry Alvarez here. Maybe even last year. I it kind of goes to show how quickly those things can change. I mean, he's someone who is just you know season or so removed from winning the SEC west and his first year Auburn coached for a national championship. So the guy's credentials. Are are certainly there is the only coach not name Nick saving to come out of the west and in the past five or six years, and and yet here he is. And sometimes that's more of a just a reflection on the school as much as the coach and shows a lot of you know, what Auburn expects and sort of the power struggle and between now's on in the program and the board. And so sometimes it's it's more circumstantial than anything. But he he was number one just because of how absolutely polarizing years, we're really smart guy. Great offensive mind. But it seems like a at any given moment he's either getting a huge extension or is on the way out the door. Really good list. Been this time of the year. You guys that cover college sports for these websites. I mean, this is not one is roll out of bed and put together. This just took a lot of work. What other kind of things are you working on for the rest of the summer? Well, I mean, we're we're we just rolled out a whole bunch of other coaching rankings as well. You're going to be seeing a lot of features either something in the works right now on the back end. I'm trying to put together with saying L anger at Texas more of a human interest story. So definitely be on the lookout for that. And then over on the other end, I'm it's not just college football applaud and covered. I was covering the af when he was still, you know, there's a whole bunch of fallout from that there's more to their more to come there to well, listen that was a quick end. Ben, thanks, come back soon. We will look forward to seeing you. All right. Thanks. They'll take to listening to the Paul finebaum show podcast. I griffith. Joining us. And. Who better than to try to figure out what's happening with all this back and forth between Georgia influence, Mike, very pleasant. Good afternoon to you. How are you? I'm doing Well, Paul. I'm a little confused though. You're saying there's a a back and forth. What's the what's the back? I just I just hear Florida lately, I'm trying to figure that that's what I'm thinking. You know, you're you're right. And I'll tell you why. Because I I saw Kirby's more yesterday and very gingerly brought broach the subject to him. And you know, what he's he doesn't talk about stuff like that. No. He doesn't care. Look. They're focused on championships. Jordan's doesn't have time to worry about the other guy. Listen, I understand what Dan mos- trying to do. You know, he's trying to get everybody excited about four football. And that makes a lot of sense, you know, but I think they should probably talking about Kentucky. They need to be Kentucky for everyday beat Kentucky. Then they, you know, that's who they need to be worried about after they beat Kentucky then they can start talking about George again. You're saying that should be their goal right now. Well, I'm not saying that should be their goal. I'm just talking in reality. You know, you wanna finish in second place in the division. You gotta be able to be Kentucky. They used to do that every year until Dan Mullen got there. I'm not mistaken, right? My missing stuff. Oh, no, no, listen. Let's let's think about that for second grip because you and I can go back in history. And I don't know how many let's see probably there's no telling him any coaches they've been through that. Never. I mean will muschamp never lost to Kentucky. Spurrier obviously never lost to Kentucky even even mcelwain. Never lost to Kentucky. Yeah. So you know, that's what I'm saying. You know, and and I listen, I respect if Pau got gotta be completely transparent with you know. Okay. So I'm I'm out on his time. And I'm sorry. I couldn't do camera day, but I'm on assignment. I'm I'm gonna tell you where I'm at. And it's just the the irony of this interview will blow you away I'm sitting in the living room and pumping obese Florida right now with the best running back in the state of Florida, and he is going to the university of Georgia's names, can you MAC, plus they call them the blueprint, and I'm gonna do an interview with him today. And as Kenny goes to Georgia during the next couple of weeks, he's going to fly over Gamesville. He's gonna fly pass, Dan Mullen, and the roster that has zero five stars on it. And when he when he gets just past games, those go look out the right side of the airplane wave down the Carson Beck. Who is a twenty twenty commit? That is the number one quarterback in Florida who told Dan Mullen. Did not wanna play for him carry dividend Peabo he wants to come to Georgia. So fans can argue all day. Why sports writers can argue all they want. Then at the end of the day. The best players in Florida are coming to Georgia. And they're the ones that are gonna decide these gangs near you. In in in Griffin through your reporting and three your observation. Why do you think that is? Because they've got a championship program. And they've got a a great school. They've got it going the momentum thing, and we've seen coaches that have been able to build that culture. I think that's the key word culture. And I and it wasn't like Mark Rick had a bad cold. I think Mark richt, you know, it's widely respected and widely regarded as is one of the greatest coach of his of his era. No, he didn't win a national championship. But he wanted an incredible cliff. In fact, his clip was right there with Phillip Fulmer at Tennessee. And when you're winning what seventy four percent of your games, and there's no major violations, and certainly Mark richt is a gentleman Georgia was in a pretty good play. And and I thought, you know, jeeze if you're gonna if you're gonna make a change here. There's really not much further. You can go up. I thought Georgia took a big chance but haven't been around Kirby part now for season, and then to his press conferences and interviews the type of players that he's recruiting and see the buying level that he's got they have built a culture. Now. He's. Got a timeframe where he's got to win a championship to keep that buying. But, but I'm telling, you know, talking to Kenny MacIntosh talking to these other guys come they believe, and if Kirby tells play special teams now here if Kirby tells them to block, they're going to do it because they're bought in because of what Kirby has proven in only three seasons. And again, I wanna talk a little bit more about him. Because I think I don't think you can really add anything to what you said about about mulling you pretty well laid that down I respect. That's fine. Checked in mowing. I was you'll see how I was actually doing a little I was reading up on Florida a little bit kind of indirectly. Did you know James Patterson wrote a book on Aaron Hernandez? I did. Really really good read Mon was there them they during that air. So, you know, there's some Florida history there, and and and they were able to win even with you know, some of that stuff going on so Molin is obviously a good coach. And I'm really surprised that he didn't get Mississippi State. Did they play in the SEC championship game user? Let me know. I'm pretty sure Jackie Sherrill went to an SEC champion. He did. He sure. So Dan Mullen didn't to well. You know, what let's just say this fall. He's one heck of a quarterbacks coach Tim tebow is evidence to that. I will say that. Let's let's talk about curvy smart approach because it's cruelly different than some. And and yeah, I I got the feeling yesterday. Mike just talking to him again. I mean here his son of a coach he he understudied Nick Sabin. It's kinda hard to do much better than that. He but on top of that though, he has to be disappointed. He he he knows. He's lost a couple of opportunities. Give us his mindset right now. Great question, and one of the very first one of the things, I know about is the mindset, and I'll never forget we dust and last year right before you, and I visited onset, and I ran into Kirby smart in the hallway he had done his presentation and answered all the questions, which is one thing Kirby. Does that? I really appreciate is he answers the question that's asked of him. And I said coach I said, how do you you know, a couple of guys asked him. You know, how do you ever get over second in twenty six that he ever forget a game? Like that. Why isn't that bother you? And Kirby said Mike, I'm not gonna lose that game play. And I said, what do you mean? He said if I let that bother me or distract me now from what I'm trying to do next season. Then that game has beat me twice. And that that's Kirby mindset, look he's not going to get beat twice, but the twenty seventeen national championship game or some people might say, well, he just did and the SEC title game. But they didn't lose that game because they were still upset about a year ago. They had other. There was a different cast of characters, you know, Sony. Michelle was there was there. Winston there Smith what there was different guys. It wasn't like. Oh, jeez. Georgia doesn't believe that they can beat out. It's not it. It's just good football. It's Hearst coming off the bench and being a great player and towards the losing de'andre Walker to an injury in the third quarter. And all of a sudden, you gotta freshman there doesn't know how to play contain and hurts over there rolling around for fifteen seconds. You know, it's it's a break now, but t to get back to your question. That's Kirby's mindset. I mean, he's he's stoic. When it comes to that sort of thing. It's like there's. No time to look back. You can't let Bill saying you can't steal second with your foot on. I that's that's Kirby's mindset. I want to go back to that game though in in December. And certainly I mean, the bizarre nature of the quarterbacks is I mean, you could search history and not find something quite like that. But, but I've had friends of mine in coaching point to to the fake and say, he let Sabin get inside his head, you know, better than than than most. What what do you think happened there? Well, the same thing happened when they ran a faking it those you the same thing that happened when they ran a fake against Auburn in. And here's what it is. If you want complete buying from your player, you've got to show them that you're completely bought. And now, it's one thing for you guys. I was in all SEC safety, Georgia. That's great coach, the what are you doing now for your buying all those kids practice those special teams ball, they put it. They're asked to put as much into special teams as they are offense and defense into create a my that Kirby told those guys before the game if we get a chance to run it. We're running it. That's the head coach believing in you that's the head coach sticking his neck out for you. He's saying we're going to run this play. If you may not have known this, and I didn't but in the twenty seventeen game Georgia had a fake called against Alabama. It was an option in the punter chose to roll out and punt if the receiver was open he was gonna throw it. So Kirby creates a mind. That by letting these players know, I'm gonna I'm gonna have the courage is a coach to put my judgment in question and run this play. They didn't even care. I've done a story on this. They didn't even care that Alabama new the pick was coming. They put a formation out there that nobody had ever seen. They had. They Alabama did such a tremendous job two things happened. One Justin feels did not net the ball fast enough. And that gave Alabama time to recognize who was where if feels snaps the ball quicker that play work. But as it was young freshman quarterback. The moment was too big. He didn't run the play properly, and it didn't work. Nobody's calling them out. Right. You know, Kirby chose that play. They practice that play every week. So to answer your question. That's why he runs the fate not about Alabama not because he's scared Nick Sabin. But because he creates a mind that within his own team. And if you talked to those players now Paul, and I did they still believe in that call. They don't second guess the coach that by. Mike will let you go back to reporting can't wait to read the article and come back very soon. Remember about the blueprint? You're going to hear more about this kid, Paul. I'm really I'm eager to do. So thanks, Mike. All right. Thank you. My grid is joining us again if you missed the beginning of the call. I think you'll hear this comment over and over again talking about the the back and forth between Georgia in Florida. We have Kirby smart tomorrow on the program talking about his approach versus Dan Mullen, showing off the three Georgia's Florida national championships in yapping about. Georgia not having one one in since nineteen eighty this is what Griffith said after Florida beat Kentucky. They can start talking about Georgia. They used to do that every year until Dan Mullen got there. You're listening to the Paul finebaum show podcast. Let's go to Columbus, Ohio. Are man. Jeff is calling Knicks. What do you got Jeff? What's going on Paul, Jeff? We are doing great. Thank you. How was your Dale Mr David, man? Well, we were down in Birmingham doing interviews with saving mouthwasHon Kirby. Smart. We had about we did about twelve interviews. We will have tomorrow for the show. That's nice. That's nice Hayes was just on tedious idea or the head Chilean. Georgia. What's that guy's name my Griffith? Is that the same guy that used to be the head cheerleader, Tennessee? He was he wasn't an acolyte for Butch Jones. I do remember that don't you? Yeah. I mean that guy is he's supposed to be a media member reporting. I mean, the guy whenever school he's all the the full use askew about Butch Jones was going to get over the hump at Tennessee. I mean, he's on believable. I never short such a homeless guys that his I mean, actually this Jeff. Would you differentiate him with many others in the media these days who who write for fan websites? Yes. Okay. I would never see a guy like him may or somebody up here like that basically through chats at the other coaches and stuff I think as soon was was all that taking shots and stuff like that sound a line for guy that's writing for breath at school's website, or whatever, you know, his website, or whatever I mean. And how could he go from one school to the other like that? But within the same division of a conference that makes no sense. Well, you know, I have a theory. Maybe I maybe I'm either to close to it or too far removed. I don't know really which one, but I think I think without getting specific on on Griffith. I think it's indicative of the media today that that digital has taken over things to such a degree that if you don't get people to read your stuff or to talk about it or Decem. Eight it here or elsewhere. You will not last very long, and you can interpret that anyway you want and I'm not you. I've been bored with that boy been talking to you about that for the last two years Yano. I mean this Elise. The Lord in this guy. I mean, they just you stuff out there and see if it sticks. I mean, if if if it if it does like you say resonated with the fan base their writing about it doesn't matter. That's what set me so much last year about the urban Meyer saying because guys opinions or taking sacks. I mean, come on. This goal is up there. Spewing stuff of that Georgian toward his opponent and people are listening to this. And there's there's thinking this guy knows what he's talking about any all he's doing is trying to get clicks listeners of your life. How does how does this differ from everything else in the media nowadays? Whether it's cable news or or cable sports, it doesn't. And that's what I've been talking to you about that the media ESPN. It's all about guys opinions. But people try to take him as fact, and they're gonna listen I'll put on something I'm not gonna name the shows. But I'll put something on in at some point in the morning just to get a at least a perspective on what has happened. And you can't you you you absolutely cannot find out what happened right? If it's a it's over the top. I still get you know, but hey, come when you have a guest host on won't be guys supposedly quit the show seem to want to call in. When the when the when the substitute teachers in the house. I mean is that as Jim when they're talking to you? Now, you got can I mean if you can say, much control your? That that he knows cleanline- when the substitute teachers in. Yeah. No. I don't know. I mean, obviously, I didn't hear the show yesterday. But I heard our boy called in. I don't know what he said. What did he say? Yeah. I didn't really miss a Coon either. Did not worse listening to. But he sure can call him in the substitute teachers in and the and the and the main guys out, but and then I wonder if Larry from Shelby don't even come on Larry Jones's in Larry quit the show because he wasn't treated, right. Remember, he he had one of his boys? Call it a couple of days later, and he was not happy with the way we was treated because ki-be was giving him a hard time about the Alabama game. So Larry has done what he always does he quit. So Larry's quick he's quit the show about twenty times. And you know, what we don't really care. I mean, he's a good caller. We like to talk to him. But you know, we're not we, you know, we don't have a welcome wagon service that goes around neighborhoods trying to talk callers into calling the show again if you don't want to call that makes room for somebody else. That's right. And then you can take shots of me about the buckeyes. I'll just I'll just keep coming back and take more shots. I mean, that's just the way. That's what it's all about. Isn't it? Listen, he's a quitter. What else? Can you say? Right. I I just wanted to get the facts, right? 'cause I just didn't know what to believe that lesson that Griffith guy all over the board was what does torture. You know, being a Homer and all this humor. Just didn't make sense to me. But you're the good listening to the Paul finebaum show podcast. So for weeks we've been waiting for this trial in New York and finally ended with a predictable verdict yesterday. But what does it really mean? Gary perish opining today in his column on CBS sports had much to say. And always a great thrill for me to welcome Gary Parrish to the show. Gary. It's good to have you on really enjoyed what you did in that piece. And for those who haven't read it or really don't know what all this is about. Let's start with the trial the verdict. And and and really what happened because I mean, I was lead, and you are leading we all were led to believe this. Was going to be a seismic change in college basketball. It doesn't seem like anything really happened. It was wild to go back last night and read a lot of the stuff that was written and said back in September two thousand seventeen when these arrests arrests were initially made, and June Kim, the acting attorney general in the southern district of New York held this press conference where he announced to the world that he's got the playbook of dirty college basketball coaches, and even you know, instructed, you know, people who are operating, you know, outside of the rule book or law that they'd be smart to call him. Because you don't want us call the you essentially saying we're about to wreck the sport and all the dirty programs that certainly what he suggested certainly the way he presented himself. And here we are. Now, nearly two years later everybody who was arrested has now either been convicted or flee plead guilty to federal crimes, and I guess that's interesting. But it's no heavy hitters at all. It's it's minimal players. I mean mine are players in a corrupt system. Like who? Really cares. If Moore code and Christian doctrines are found guilty of anything. They seem to suggest that they were going to expose some of the biggest programs and coaches in the sport, and they did that to some degree. But if you and I are talking right now, there were still only one head coach who lost his job because of anything connected to this. And that's Rick Pitino. We'll wait. It's still the coach at LSU. Shawn Miller still the coach Zona they'll sell to still the coach K this. And it really does feel like the federal government based on the way it presented things in September two thousand seventeen they way over promised way under deliver. Listen, let's let's say the the feds out of it for a second the Gary. But based on what what you know? And you watch this very closely from your purchased at CBS sports on TV Enda on. Digital platforms should those three coaches. Remain employed, still they should have jobs after what we think, we know. I mean, I think Bill self maybe because he actually does have plausible deniability like even TJ gas. No, the Adidas consultant when he was asked under oath. If they'll sell knew he was out there. Buying players for canvas TJ gas. Nola, testified Bill had no idea and nothing to do with it. Now, you can choose to believe that or not. But at least Bill can always say they had TJ gas Nola on the stand under oath. He had no motivation to lie. In fact, he had every reason to tell the truth, and he said I had nothing to do with it. I think Bill is fine. And we'll be fine. But we'll wait is on a wiretap expressing frustration that he's made a quote strong s offer for a of prospect, and he was upset that the prospects. Handler hadn't accepted the offer yet. And the reason he figured out the offer had not been accepted. Yet was because will decided to cut the family in too much in the handler in not enough. He then goes on to explain that. He's done bills. Like this before for players that are just as good, and they weren't nearly as complicated as this one is turned out to be and I know that will subsequently denied wrongdoing to his bosses at LSU. And that's why he got reinstated. But there's just no believable story. And I say this as somebody who likes we'll wait and his known him for a long time. But there's just no believable story that explains the way the words that were caught on that wiretap. So I'm frankly surprised he's still the coaching at LSU and with Shawn Miller. It's just crazy to be. I mean every coach that was on his staff during this time period has been accused in some form of of rules violations. One has been arrested charged with federal crimes pleads guilty to federal crime. And it's also caught on FBI recordings of not only admitting that he was buying players so much so that he was nearly broke from spending his own money on them. But telling you know, Christian Dawkins that Shawn Miller balked de'andre Eytan in Raleigh Aachen, then was paying eight and family ten thousand dollars a month. You know, just from a common sense perspective. We know that there was a market for Andrea. Because he was arguably the best prospect in the country. We know Adidas was trying to buy him for canvas. There's no believable story that has him going to Arizona for nothing in two different people are caught on FBI recording saying, in fact, he didn't go to Zona for nothing. He went to Arizona for a lot of money and shown Miller was directly involved. I don't understand how a university could continue to employ somebody who runs a program with all of the stuff. I just described attached to it. But on the other hand, he does have the number one recruiting class in America set to enro-, and you know. Sometimes outweighs larger issues when it comes to deciding whether you want to basketball coach or not, obviously, let me go back to shoot for second and agree with you. And we'll way but not not only does the administration seemed to be all in you have a new athletic director, Scott Woodward who say, well, he's the coach until he's not. But it just doesn't seem like they care and even beyond that now realize fans are fans, but the fans just get the become outraged when when someone suggests something else, and I I'm maybe because I swim in the SEC waters. You keep expecting someone to say something. And by the way, it forget you. We haven't heard anyone whether it's a Commissioner of the SEC, whether it's college presidents, whether it's athlete directors. No one seems to act like this is a big deal. No. And you know, and now the instable a they'll continue to investigate I'm certain that LSU at era Zona at Kansas at some other programs. But the way is not. Great at investigating this stuff. They don't have subpoena power. They don't have access to people who don't wanna talk to them. Like all of the players who are who are alleged to have been involved in pay per place game whether it said, Aaron or LSU or anywhere else. They're all out of college. Now, they're not going to talk to you Christian Dawkins is not going to talk to the institute of lay. And so I don't know that the incident lay is going to be able to take these issues any further than they already are. And you're exactly right. The silence from administrators or the the cliche statement said me nothing is is a terrible terrible. Look and from the fan's perspective. You're exactly right like fans, get outraged. If you suggest that maybe you should think about changing your basketball code because fans are fans, and I you know, I understand that. But I guess where I sort of draw the line because I'm a fan of things myself. My advice to phase would be like. If you want to say, I don't care that my basketball coach my basketball program was cheating because I assume most great basketball programs are eating like, I can I can get down with that. And then nod my head and respected on some level. Just don't be dumb about it. You know, don't try to pretend. This is what Arizona fans are doing right now more so than any fan base. They really do think that their head coach has done nothing wrong. And there's just so much evidence. To the contrary it really is impossible for sensible person to reach that conclusion in in. Finally, I hear this all the time and from this was coming from mainly LSU fans. I don't talk to too many Zona fans, but they essentially say, hey, why should we get in trouble North Carolina got off? And I know that's connecting rather strange dots. But that seems to be one of the themes out there. Yeah. Well, North Carolina got off. There's a loophole in the rule book, you know, as long as they wouldn't acknowledge. You know academic misconduct academic flawed. Then the incident ablaze in no position to charge them with academic frothy. Inside of lake can't tell North Carolina that it had far, Jaylen classes, all North Carolina would ever admit to was that they had easy classes, but it's not a violation have easy classes, especially when non athletes, take those classes. So I agree with the general sentiment that it's insane. That North Carolina was funneling processed student athletes into these sham classes and keeping them eligible to win basketball title after basketball title, but they got off because they had great lawyers, and they found a loophole in the rule book at LSU like it's just never been a defense. Whether you're dealing with the incident of leg or a policeman who pulls you over on the interstate. Hey, I know I was going ninety in seventy but that other car was going ninety in seventy two will that's there's still going to write you tickets, and you're gonna. Have to move on like other people do this. We think and get away with it is not an a good defense for you. When you get caught. I don't believe for a second. That will wait is the only head coach who's broken level one rules. I don't even believe is the only one in the SEC, but he just happens to be the one who's caught on a wiretap talking about it. And that's why LSU is in the position. It's in right now, you mentioned Miller's recruiting what about Wade. Does. It does as it seemingly had any impact at all on him. I know he's still in for one of the top players in in the south. It's still available. Yeah. He seems to be the favorite for five star prospect print 'em Wofford out of these state of Alabama. And so I guess the answer the question is is no it hasn't had a real impact. I think the most surprising thing is like Arizona. Literally right now has the number one recruiting class in America. Even though it's still not crystal clear that show Miller is going to survive this scandal. And it's undeniable that Arizona's. Going to be hit by the AA in some form. Even if they can't tie directly to Shawn Miller, you know, the postseason ban type stuff is certainly on the table for Arizona. And yet he's still been able to secure one way or another, you know, five star prospect after five star prospect of will seems to be picking up right where he was before the scandal ever surfaced as well. So I guess, you know, we talk all the time about the fans don't care about this stuff. Maybe it's also true that prospect don't seem to carry either because the same schools that were getting the best players before any arrest was ever made September two thousand seventeen here. We are in may two thousand nineteen and those same schools are getting the best players again. Unbelievable. Gary barrett. I'm sure the NCAA will appoint another blue ribbon commission to solve all your problems. They're great. They're great at coming up with committee. They don't know that the committee's ever accomplished much, but they can they can put committee together pretty quickly. Great to you on Gary, always always fun sees him. Yeah. Thanks. Thank you. To listening to Paul finebaum show podcast. One thing that we have heard here over the last couple of weeks is just how great Florida is doing in fact after having visited there a couple of weeks ago, I came back sensing a major paradigm shift all the the back and forth of swagger was back. But in the last couple of days things have changed in our next guest. Matt Baker has taken a deep dive into that writing in the Tampa Bay times met always great to have you on. It's before we get to deepen the analysis. Let's talk about the build up, and how we got to this point before the before things have changed because Dan Mullen has has done a remarkable job. Good afternoon. Hey, all thanks for having me on. Yeah. You're you're exactly right. I think the first year and a half or so for for moan at Florida went pretty darn well. It's first recruiting class. Was was good enough. Given the circumstances. Then he goes out and wins ten games in the peach bowl, which is far out seeded, my expectation, then he goes and gets a top ten recruiting class in February and closes really well getting you'll that that George wanted getting the guy in Florida that Bama one the things seem to have been going pretty darn well, and then it kinda worth it all unraveled in the last week and a half. I think that's too strong. But the last week and have been really really rough for Mullen indicators. Okay. Well, let's take them one at a time because they have been they they it's been hard to keep up with them, including what has transpired today. Yeah. Yeah. The the first one was was Jalen Jones the blue chip early enrolling quarterback. He got a week and a half ago that he was entering the transfer portal. Then we broke the story that a couple of weeks before then just before the before the spring game. He had been accused of two separate sexual battery by two different women to half an hour apart both women claim to pursue charges. But, you know, they're still university aspect, and I'm still not entirely clear. What else weird I'd is in the process, but regardless of football perspective, he's never gonna play the game at Florida on than they had a five star running back and lakeland that they thought they were gonna get, but he ended up committing Clinton did. But then they had Brian Edwards defense tape backup defensive back is rested on the complaint of a misdemeanor battery the other day heard of grabbing his girlfriend by the net. And then today it comes out officially that. Chris steele. Who was their top route the twenty nineteen class four star defensive back is pursuing a transfer as well in a couple of hours after that. They lost out on number ten over over crew in the class, the twenty twenty one who had been committed to Florida, so bang, bang, bang bang. That's been the last week and a half in Gainesville. Meanwhile, we have spent a lot of time here talking about the reaction from Georgia on all the trash talking. And that was before most of this was known. I don't know if it's going to affect anything, but has has Molin had anything to say, I know we had lots of say when he got some of these players committed. He's he's been quiet for for the last bit. But obviously he's head his handful. I mean when one of their players is accused of sexual battery as Jones was I think you feel that you've gotta be able to wrap your head around and figure out what happened and what didn't happen and then with Chris fuel transfer. You know, he's we don't have to transfer portal where you can enter the portal. But until you go somewhere else, there's the possibility for return. So I don't know that Florida thinks they're going to get Christie back. But I think today they've been trying to do what they can't it to officially keep him from leaving. If there's anything that can be done if that Grinch can be mended at all. But it's kind of funny. I think fan when things are going, well, especially at Florida they like coach like Steve Spurrier who has a little bit of attitude in his fine. Take Chirpin a little bit and taking shots arrivals. But when things aren't going well like they are right now in Gainesville. You see the other side of that. Really interesting stuff met from a recruiting standpoint. Let's delve into it a little bit. Because what does this mean to that momentum? Because everyone talked about the ranking now you lose guys who played a pretty big role in in in getting that ranking. Yep. Flute and it's not good. There's no other way to spend it there. They had a according to the two four seven four composite ranking porta had the number nine recruiting class in the country in twenty nineteen. He take away. Jalen Jones, and Christy. They're down to fourteen which is actually where they were in loans first class and three spots lower than they were in Jim mcelwain final class. So to me, that's the kind of sign that things aren't going. Well, and to the biggest thing you mentioned Georgia, and rightfully so Georgia's obviously been the king of the and Florida's been trying to to make that ground up Georgia had more talent than Florida when they met at the world's largest after a cocktail party since then Georgia signed a better recruiting class in Florida. And now you take away two of the Gators blue. Guys from that class. In addition to a missing twenty twenty and a decommissioned twenty twenty one so career Bart Scott at rolling up there in Athens into gap has at least talent gap on the field has widened in the last week and a half. Not to go back to Mullins, I tour duty Gainesville. But but books, and documentaries, and and more than I can even fit into the segment have been written about some of the issues there from a disciplined standpoint, I'm not blaming Dan Mullen, he was an assistant you have to look at what he did at Mississippi State as a head coach. But but now the discipline has has reared its ugly head. Is this going to be an issue moving forward, especially on the recruiting trail? That's a really good question that I don't have an answer to yet. I mean, Brian Edwards. Again, he was the one arrested on on a battery complaint the other day. I he wasn't a guy that Mullin recruited. So I think you don't you know, you kind of take that into consideration. But Jalen Jones was a guy that that Mullin recruited that Mullen wanted is part of his, you know, his quarterback in the twenty nineteen class and wanted him to enroll early so you definitely have to take that into account. But there's still a ton that I don't know about those two accusations of sexual battery. We we've I've right through the police reports many many times but jail, you know, I don't know. Jalen this side of the story. There's things in there that are still not entirely clear to me. And I don't know if they ever will be. So I don't have a good answer yet on what this means in terms of how disappointing and we'll discipline. You know, certainly as part of Mullins pacifists stayed the Jeffrey Simmons thing is part of his past. And who he is coach in his track record. That's never going to go away. So I think that's always something that you can you kind of keep in the back of your mind when you're. Talking about Dan Mullen, indisciplined aside from that. And I realized we're talking about some of the issues, but even even a number nine ranking, which may officially or unofficially officially be at fourteen. Now, it just seems low for the university of Florida. What's your view of volunteer recruiting approach? And and and how does he close that gap even more because number nine great. But he's still seems to be coming up fairly short on on the very top shelf players the five stars here, absolutely right halt. Because he's not any completely Schweik Florida does not have single five star on its roster wishes. Still astounding to me, and I think Georgia signed I think five with the official number and this last class. So obviously, he he's even created fine. But find doesn't win championships. We know that you need a higher level guys in a bunch of them like like Bama, and like Clemson and like Georgia had been getting. So how did he close that gap? I think the first thing he has to do is do a better job of recruiting the the state of Florida. He's done fine. But not good enough. And certainly part of that is I n g academy down in Bradenton. They continue to have a tone of delete guys every single year and Florida's not getting him. It's been a years long problem that goes back to the Jim mcelwain era your ton of potential reasons why. But if Mullins going to recruit at a high level nationally starts in this state, and if he's going to recruit at a high level in the state of Florida, it really starts at IMG academy and a couple other. That's one of the bridges and needs to be sixty four going gonna challenge for national championships again, really gross stuff. Matt baker. Thank you, Matt. Really? It's nice it first of all it's great to hear reporter doing real reporting these days as opposed to typically typical. Nice nice to have you on. Hope you come back. You gotta take the ball, by the way, not to make too much. Just think about what Matt said there in the in the in the manner in the demeanor that he had versus some of the people we've had covering other teams in recent days or hours, I might add. You're listening to the Paul finebaum show podcast. Lesson Naples, Florida. You are next up on the air. Go right ahead. Hey, paul. Thanks much for taking my call. Thank you. You probably remember me. I coach once in about nineteen ninety six when I lived in Birmingham. And then I also have bought one of your books on Amazon one time. So we go way back. I was curious. You know, we're talking about the Denver station swear towards some punishment. And when when when players you don't get in trouble in that time of the year where you know, sometimes things go wrong. And some of the coming months, we'll see different coaches treat different, you know, circumstances in a wide variety of ways players get kicked off teams players get second chances. And I was just curious what it would be like to talk to players that are, you know, ten fifteen years out of having an through a circumstance of trouble and how they feuded on him. You're the coach Lawrence and strict, and it made them better or made them worse in life later on. And there's never been any discussion that you had or their books or any other shows that have kind of a look back on, you know, more disciplined is better or wider discipline is better. I'm just curious about you know, kind of out. Comes. Here's later for players when they get in trouble. I wish I could give you some anecdotal evidence. Most of the time in this goes way back to recent players who have been disciplined. Usually learn from it. And I think it's common sense. You could you could apply this to to parenting or discipline or lack of discipline in any in any Walker phase of life, those who get away with it continued to do that behavior you hear saving in other great coaches talk about it all the time. They're they're they're not it's not so much punishment that they've you. They're just trying to to alter behavior incorrect behavior in and it's it's very basic and those who do usually have good results and those who don't pay for it in the end. And by the way, that's individually and as a team. Well, you you make good points. I guess forever. There's plenty of you know, Keith McKean stories out there where things never got back on trial. And I'm sure there's lots of other great stories where players, you know, hair room, and they did come back up by. I appreciate you taking my call. I was just kind of curious about that. Yeah. I think it was great to hear from you. I I think it's really interesting. So you mentioned Keith McCann's, and I would say Kifah cancer would would rank among the saddest stories ever. Here's a guy who was an all everything linebacker growing up in mobile, Alabama, and he went to Alabama and did fairly. Well, there think he was the fourth player taken the draft. And and just some of the stories I've read about it. I think I've talked to Keith once or twice he may have called in. He may be listening right now. But just just absolutely tra- tragic. What what he did to himself? And by the way, you you hear. I mean, those stories are are not. Are not that rare. I mean, I I ran into a former NFL player today who played, you know, fourteen years in the NFL, and at a very high low at the highest possible level, and and that, and that's the I in you, don't I mean, there are a lot of those stories, but unfortunately, you you hear about the ones of players who are destitute, and you know, what why does that happen in part of it happens because fans don't care. I want to go back to Gary Perry said a few minutes ago, and I'm not I'm not singling out. LSU here or Arizona or anyone else. But but fans have gotten to a point just like followers political parties were they don't care anymore about right or wrong or integrity. They just care about winning. They just care about keeping the players eligible. If somebody makes an accusation against their guy or their team fightback. I mean, I'm a I'm a big watcher politics on television. Same way doesn't matter. I listen, I don't care which part of your your your with it. It it's gotten so partisan and that has now slipped over into athletics. Maybe it's been there for a long time. I just seem to hear it a lot more now. But if if some buddy comes out with an accusation against your team you want to react you want to kill that guy. You want to shoot the messenger as opposed to say as opposed to saying, man. Maybe we need to clear clean this up. Maybe we need to replace the coach maybe we need to replace the athletic director or the president or the board of trustees. But instead everyone wants to shoot the messenger. He's a hack. He does note he's talking about. Remember, what happened with Brittany Murphy last year, you heard it today from our buddy up in in Ohio. No credibility. I mean when was the last time one of your your favorite teams or your favorite players were attacked? And you said, you know, what that's really interesting. That's not good. You just got through listening to Scott. Matt Baker on who laid out a very clear comprehensive. Analysis of Dan Mullins, recruiting it all of a sudden things are going wrong. He's not the only one I just saw a story in the ethnic talking about the five star recruit his exit mysterious circumstances growing drama. That's what news media out about. I haven't heard any. I have yet to hear a gator fan in our audience, call up and say, you know, what this is a serious problem. Instead, all they do is pontiff Kate. And and speculate it's been eight million days since Georgia last one national championship. We've yet to hear gator fan. Call in and say, I wonder if we have a problem why is that? During the whirlwinds thing, we never heard one LSU fan say, you know, what maybe we have a problem I've covered Alabama being investigated attack the messenger and when attacking the messenger does a work. Call the NC double A Gestapo organization, which many did during one of the investigations that. I mean, I'm not saying we're not a part of that here. We are. We're talk show. We're heard all over the country. A lot of people call in and spew intelligent takes. And spew nonsense. But when was the last time you heard a fan a zealot of a program one of those who've been calling in running their mouths about. Dan, Mullen, follow the call and the conversation with Matt Baker minute ago, saying, you know, what that's a wonder why I wonder what's going on down there. That's a problem. Why is that you don't want to admit that your best recruit? Is gone. Your second bet. Recruit is gone. You're all Osho important ranking. Has left you. You're no longer number nine in the twenty four seven you're down to fourteen. You don't wanna admit that. Because that affects your argument about everything else. Why is that? Still haven't heard from the gator fan. I'm an always great to hear from you. Good evening. Afternoon. You know, when you say, this is probably one of the finest collections of coaches across the eight this e c all fourteen teams. Doing the best. They can right now. Getting catch your bear. What's your point? Whether it's fairly confident in their their building for the future, the ones that are building in the ones that are maintaining the maintain their will. And we say the future is bright in which each coaches, and I think what Jim called yesterday was because you know, Matt was talking about the some top twenty five coaches list, and he named alpha bunch coaches to me, and I said, no, no, no. And he finally, you know to replace mile zone, and he finally got to an seek coach. And I said, well, yeah. And it wasn't it. I would change on for another coach. It's just that that particular coach understands, you know, recruiting and playing football competitive football in the SEC, the with the schedules that everybody faces you know, I was looking at Alabama schedule some people say, well, that's a cream puff scheduled maybe cream puff schedule. But how many teams do you think across the country and all these other conferences could play. Mississippi state. Oh, miss Arkansas. Auburndale issue AM. In their schedule and be competitive. I'm not sure. But anyhow he thought that that was delusional that one day that that coach saving might retire because of health, and he might regret, you know. He might be we've seen it in the past. Bobby Bowden different coaches, they stayed a little bit too long. They got real competitive in their conferences, and they they were coming retired for themselves. If you will he thought all that was delusional fan speak, and that's why Jim called him. Because Jim, you know, he needs in needs breath of fresh air night. Jim needs to go out and ping. Have you have you ever? I mean is it possible for you? Why why why are why are you so concerned about Jim because you brought up a conversation? I didn't I didn't say I man I want you to call remember respond to it. I just I didn't know you didn't say that. But you brought conversation until I I'd heard that I heard that I had heard that he was complimenting your call. But apparently I had that wrong. Who met? Hear about man talking about Jim no gyms gyms. Jim is Jim. That's why go and then he call because you weren't there. And then I'm just following topic. You throw it out there just responded. That's all. I mean, if you need listen if you need somebody to run over in your car today. I mean, I in in your. Since I didn't hear yesterday's call them not gonna let it bother me. 'cause I I don't know one way or the other. But in you say you call every day, right? I didn't say a call every day. Do you call every day or not? Not every day. But you pretty quit being a quick being quickly. Dumber than than the sounding right now. I on average how many times would you say you call a week. Three and a half. Okay. Of those three and a half times has eighty of the have any of those calls. Not had a shot at Alabama shot at gym or shot at the at saving. Well, when when can you can you can you state rate, can you give me give me a single that either? You didn't read from a either you didn't read from a script or you didn't take her shot at one of those three people. When was the last time? Can you give me that? Can you give me the date? I listen, I'm following your topic the day before you left, you said he was going to test glues you go talk to save and and you were going broadcasts. Now, we'll do it tomorrow. Like, I said nineteen times onto the shape to listening to the Paul finebaum show podcast over under two and a half years. More saving coaches. I would think the somewhere there abouts under right at I I'd say under because I think he's outta there. Under drew over under two and a half years. Saving coaches over. I'm going over. I think that just whistle listening from you ended. No, no. It's not wishful thinking, I just don't see them dragging him out our Bama like they did Bobby Bowden at Florida state, and it's going to happen because he's not going to leave. They're gonna have to make him leave. He's always good. Hang on to say, you just said you think he'll stay less than two and a half years, and he won't leave on his own. You think Alabama's go fire Nick Sabin in two years, then they're not gonna have any choice because she. You. I mean, you believe they will fire Nick Sabin in the next two years. The guys losing it. I tell you. They have a good phone this year. I mean tell you I've listened to sports radio my whole life. I've hosted and I like you. I'm end, you know, I like you. And I like you that is the dumbest point that has ever been made wars. Right. Knowing know, how did you make you know, why? Because I believe that's the way it's going to go down. Well, what a great call yesterday by man. What what what also a lion call? He had today in in Russia. Well, I'm very shocked to keeping brought out where it could be exposed as as absolute truth. And what happened in fact, and I appreciate Dan playing playing that right there, you earn. It. You heard we own Alabama ears. Even though you live in South Carolina or wherever you live now. That's exactly so you know, that provoked me, but yon the ceiling, and I called, and I said met the guy is a food. He's been a food. He's been a, you know foul, you know, you asked him how come every time I'll get into you. I'll bet you it's recorded every call. He's made in his life on this show. Ninety five percent of them have been after I called for gets me some negative live just like he did while ago, but thing is is a complete food. He's a hater. That's what he is. He hates me. He hates bomber. He hates anybody that superior to his interior middle. Bill delusional cramp. That's that guy is sick guy. And he's a jealous guy. But I'm glad this happened. Because it exposed what a fraud one of phone, and would I lie as you just said this PU is you heard him say saving would be gone. He wouldn't be made. This guy is a clans ball. You know, what he was? But you play with him for years because he I guess excite some of the pricking idiots. Listen. I don't know. But I'm glad this happened. Just going, you know, you you heard his inability to answer a straight direct question. No. He can't do it. Because he he's gonna last all these he's I didn't get to these ball. And that's that's the royals. Also threw him off his script. Look, you could do this every day, and it would be a good show. And this is what you used to do you used to do that all the time when shaded I and even Bobby you'd expose Bobby like, it, sometimes that's where the show was great when you expose these frogs they phone Z liars. And now, you know, but thank goodness. You get you. Did it today for the first time? I think in I don't know how long it's been years that you've done something. Like this go down when you pit books. That's what he is. He's a bit book. I don't know. I'm just again. I'm just telling it like it is you told me, I'm a straight shooter. No. That's what that's what we want. We. I thought so but this is good because everybody now sees what that phony crowd is about lying and hate. I don't hate anybody. I don't hate you. I just I just don't like liars deceiver and frogs, and I'm like Trump I'll bite back when I get bit. Hey, by the way, I interviewed tubby yesterday. We'll play it tomorrow. Oh, I love time. Where is he told me his entire I said, so what's your what's your what are you? What are you running on these dr- Donald Trump? That's all he talked about does. He does he want my support. I mean, he he's he said we'll play the interview he said if Donald Trump does go does get elected. I I don't want to be a Senator. Told you one time I talked. I said what's the five years ago? I said, well what's going on with us? But he was here it, and, you know, he knew house dot gov who show so he made a big all of a sudden one day in the mail. I told you this. I didn't ask for nothing. I I wouldn't I wouldn't even have Elvis's autograph. And he was he rolled mine. But I'm telling you here comes invoked big rope. What do you call it fast mail deal comes in the knock on the door picture autograph about ups? Like I wanted it. Like, I asked Lord what you know. What I did. I hung it up and looked at it all day every day and not wait could the it somewhere in my house. Now, I don't know where it is. But I shouldn't say that. But I pretty state the photo there. I am out of line saying that thank you time for the phone. If you got any more since morale, take it wasn't. We'll go visit him in Washington. Exactly. All right. This is a great go. Thank you very much. Thank you. Jim. Jim lane on listening to the Paul finebaum show podcast. John is up next in Huntsville, Alabama. Hello, john. Hey, Paul, thanks for taking my call. Thank you, very. Yeah. Look ball, man. I know my opinion don't mean anything, but I've been listening to you. So she won't jocks in Birmingham AM station. Yes, they're Endo. I really I just think sometimes I think you export Jim. I really do. I think GM, and I and look man, I'm not a college educated guy have nothing no about mental health. But I know this gives a very insecure, and I don't like bow polar. I don't know. But I just think it's time to take advantage of that, man. Sometimes you go from a man your show has been fantastic today. The guest you've had and the college you've had. And then you go to Jim someone's like, you go from a fantastic informative show to Jerry Springer. And I I just I tell you it really turns me off. And I know why I've probably represent very small portion of your audience and always T tomorrow and all this t to they quit. But I just don't think it's right to tro GM or not not saying you do but callers and. Because. I just I just I just think mental health is a serious issue. And I just don't think. I I don't know. I'm not smart say say, well, okay. John. Let me let me let me stop. Okay. First of all. We have had a good show today. We we've got into some various topics, and and I I'm not I I really appreciate what you said. No, it's heartfelt. And I I'm thinking about what you what you're saying right now because it's not so much intent to to exploit him. It's it's just it was more. It was really the I man call. They got me going. It wasn't the gym call. I felt like, but but I I can't tell listen, that's how you feel. That's how this is being disseminated than I've got to think about what we do here with look at this. Like, I say, I remember, in fact, I read you Berman I'm from host. And I I would read your Birmingham post herald articles, and before you went on radio right eleven and I'm not saying, I'm expert you Paul but Paul finebaum, man. You're you're fabric of my life. You know, you know, come two o'clock. I drive a truck for wherever I stream Paul fan ball. And and therefore respect you always we'll, but I just feel like the GM things get little carried away. We'll join you help me because I don't want to do that that my we first of all we don't need to do that on this program. You you you you've described the the history of the show we've been on a long time. And before I ever did the first radio show. I I did what I was in newspaper guy. So. We're we're we're not doing this to save the save the show, and there's no reason for us to to to resort to anything that sounds like a cheap trick. I didn't see it that way. But I'll, but I'll talk to our guys and see what they thought Powell. Thank you so much and have a great day. How appreciate it John. You'd be safe out there on the roads. Okay. Let's we have X exploitation is when we we try to have fun here. I mean, this is a long show every day and a lot of you are getting off work or you're doing something else. And I mean, there's enough dreariness up and down the the television and radio dial. So that's what I mean. I found Jim to be entertaining. He's a straight shooter whether you like it or not and today, I thought he made a lot of sense. You're listening to the Paul finebaum show podcast. We have Tim Brando with us in that is the gift that keeps on giving. Timmy, b it's been too long. How are you? My man. Only today. So I'm fired up and ready to go. You know, I'm usually a little more spicy when I'm just with you on the radio. All yeah. Tim, listen. I I don't you know with you. I don't even I don't even wanna waste a subject. I just wanted to just turn the machine on. Well, look, I think this I now I don't have to do what you do on a daily basis anymore, and frankly, I want no part of it. But I'm always giving and caring to those that do have to do what you do every day, and it's not easy to do four hours of of radio each day or three hours of radio. And when you had the television platform, are you really really doing radio Justice or TV Justice. I don't know. But I know this you're working hard to do both. So God bless you for it. I'm here to provide a public service for the Paul finebaum network today came here we are in. We're we're working our way toward the middle of may the conversations remain the same. And and I I someone who has done it and has done this at the highest level. I'm really interested in in your view of the whole thing. And it goes from the interactions of fans. To the coaches to the way the media now covers I mean, there is a lot to chew on here in the middle of may. Well, once the tornadoes left here and headed to Alabama and Mississippi where you are. You're hope everyone's okay in and around of those states because we we were cleaning up a lot here at home and had some major Florence. And we're hoping that we don't get another wave of it tonight. Matter of fact, I was listening to your sell on the podcast as I was walking the golf course today because occurrences close me guests standing water. Oh, did I was getting my power walk in? We should not eating. And I thought I'd do that instead of the treadmill, and I was listening to your conversation with one of your callers about a previous guests that you had on like that or is writer now for a website. Yeah. My end your your accuracy on that. And the perception that you're caller head with regard to that is I think the major of that we have just with the narrative daily not just in sports, but obviously news, and now it really has spilled over into sports tries might I think we both come from an idealistic baby boomer generation that used to say, well, I I'm getting away from that. And going into sports because it's the toy department. I don't want to deal with the grim realities of life. Well, guess what? Now sports has become such a part of the entertainment value of our country because the entertainment business has gone to hell in a hand basket. So now, we're looking to live sports. And commenting on the drama around live sports to supplant what you know, the Dean Martin Jerry Lewis debate was about in the late fifties and early sixties when they broke up, you know, who's better Martin Lewis. That's that's what's happened in our country. Call and we seem to have the same conversation. Maybe different names involved, different coaches, different players, different scandals different circumstances. The stories remain the same. And I think it was you that was what's quoted as saying people don't necessarily people may be sports fans, but they don't prefer talking about sports over talking about other people. So people talking about other people seems to be still invoked. That's one thing that has stayed with us. I think since gates is that people do prefer talking about other people than really sports themselves. In gym. I do think the lines are crossed. I think people flip from FOX to CNN MSNBC SPN. And I it's it's it's just one screaming conversation after the other with partisanship. That that there? I am by the way, I'm not begging for the day when you know, we we do right down the middle. But, but I I think I think sports is worse than than the news channels. These days can be it can be the the post draft narrative. Really? Oh was sickening to me. I just was sickening to me. I mean, what Daniel Jones dude, anybody my God. So that's he's a serial killer. You know, what's really that bad and poor Archie manning? He's sitting at home. I'm sure enjoying things and happy that you know, one of the kids that was in his past academy manage to to be I stick with the giants. And that is is who is going to get the tutoring. And all of a sudden there's this vast manning empire conspiracy that moved this kid up to number six in the draft list. I mean what you know, just I mean charges of the decision being race really all that is out there. And by the way, I'm not pointing fingers at any one individual. That's doing the commentating here. It was across every network anybody. That's got a draft show was talking about and it it's just it. It becomes really bothersome. So you say, okay, I'm going to find a movies your blazing. Saddles sounds good. I'll put that DVD back in. Whenever you get really upset with our culture today. I was just a long at the in Dallas at the father Nelson celebrity onto they do have a good day of golf on Tuesday. Dallas national before the rain screaming and and the tornadoes in such Wednesday morning, and I saw Bubba. Gilliam? Burton Bubba Gilliam who was in blazing saddles. And of course, was one of the five offices at Utah in that movie about honeymoon in Vegas. And and Bubba is one of the all-time great character actors and he used to play in the Kenny stabler classic all the time mother's day weekend down at on clear. We were having a great time. And I told him he said, Tim, you have no idea how big glazing saddles is every year. I man. That's when I when I met you in the early nineties blazing saddles wasn't that big. I said well the same was candy. She Caddyshack was, you know, a B movie when it came out and then twenty five years later, you know, you're not. Oh, man if you didn't watch Kevin shit. Search through. Hey, by the way, I'm glad you took over there. Because I was about to indict my own network because I was Ellsworth through Paul. It was everywhere that day the morning after the draft. I basically had to turn the television off where I was working at this morning, and I looked up and you should the Lakers trade LeBron. I'm like what? That was Stephen a Smith lead item. I mean help et must it be when you're to this deep appoint in your playoffs and you still can't make game five or game pivotal game. Five still is base three because what a terrible. Well, you know, maybe you were to worldwide leader at pretty close to the beginning. I mean, you you you hosted sportscenter. You did all the shows. I mean. I mean, what was it like back? Then Paul I even did the NBA today back then that was a daily show that they had to to try the lower the NBA to come over and be part of it. You know, I remember after the third day. I did it. I was a guest host that. I said I enjoy my stay on the NBA today. I'm taking the next week off. But but honestly, you know in the nineties and in the eighties. We were just really was more meat and potatoes back, then I tell people and one of the reasons I love Scott van pelt so much s VP is is I think the best out there. And it's one of the reasons why sportscenter show does. So well is because he has an appreciation of history. But is really hip, you know, he's really current young people really dig him, but he's respectful of his elders. You know, you're not gonna watch a Scott van pelt show without some reference to you know, Chris Berman is or maybe something, you know, Bob, we might have said or even last night. I got tweets late at night from some people saw him this morning. There was a shot in a Premier League game that went off the post, and he went iron unkind and said to me. Be if you're up how you doing, you know. Oh, that's Scott is and he he I think engenders a level of entertainment and enjoys in sports on a daily basis that I don't think we have enough of during the rest of the day parts, and I'm okay with the culture conversation. I think that discuss how sports can help our culture is really a good thing. You know? I think Jason with lock on our network on this one doesn't nice job talking about that on SF why? But they're just it just seems that the the yelling and screaming, and the let's be upset about something. The let's get offended somehow some way and express offended. We are it does take over the day. And I think in our generation, maybe we were just lucky maybe the clock was on our side because I think we were just more meat and potatoes back then it's the first game of a weekend series and Philadelphia game three of fourteen game homestand for the villa. And how are they doing? You know, months having those conversations they the the introduction of social media, and you're very active on on on Twitter. But it it just seems like it. It's playing a role that I I'm not saying it shouldn't be important. But it's, but it's overwhelming and influencing almost everything it is and into a point where when you wake up in the morning, if you're trying to get your sports news. There was a time. The Paul what I used to think I get I get a better more unbiased report via Twitter that I could television aren't they those days are gone. Forget it and and just to the straight reporting of what happened overnight in a game. I it especially when we're talking about playoffs. Now, I do get lost in in the NHL in the Stanley Cup playoffs. Because it's it's kinda like just the brutality of the sport the excitement level for the people. In the fans game seven is unlike any other game seven at any other sport. So you can kind of get lost in that. And I and I really marvel at what doc Emrick in those guys do over on NBC and NBC sports network their cable with the hockey because they can really live in the moment. And hockey is a sport that has to be covered in the here. And now, it seems that especially with the NBA it's more about the packaging than it is the game or the soap opera surrounding the players as opposed to what players are doing what to help eighteen win a game. And oh, by the way, we'll this player be a max player in his next contract or not max player in his next contract. Paul. I really don't care. Whether a player is a max, I wanna know about my team. See it would we were growing up. The Lakers may have had. Very west. Who was the the emblem? Okay of the NBA his silhouette still the implement the NBA, but it wasn't just about Jerry West. Okay. It was about the the on samba of players around him tap Hairston. Jim mcmillan? Oh, by the way, will Chamberlain and Gail Kubrick's. Will you know, all the players that played with that team? And when Chamberlain played in Philadelphia, he had how Greer while Jones new Jackson Chet Walker, and we'll chamber we knew all the players were on all the teams. And to some extent, we talk about it. Well, the people say they go after Michael Jordan say well, it all started with during not really Scottie Pippen was a really good second banana. Okay. A hall of fame. Top fifty all time second banana and guys like Steve curr could make some serious shots and Dennis Rodman was one of the greatest defensive players and all time rebounders the NBA's ever since. So the team concept has been lost. I think especi-. In professional sports today. That's one of the reasons why I think you would I love to swim in the pool, but is college athletics, and we have to guard against inequality in athletics going this way. And that the presentation of intercollegiate athletics, not be preparatory totally to to to what lies ahead like I love the notion that we have to talk about where player's gonna be drafted. Lisa a freshman for Christ sakes. We don't need to let joy the college game. And this kid's a marvelous college player. And so that's that's one of those that I've been I've been beating the drum about that for a long long time. Why do we do that? Well, I think you're a newspaper man, I think it started with the print business becoming on the wane with the emergence of cable television and game starting late and then deadlines being a problem. And what did you have to do to sell papers you had to sensationalize in some manner? And I think it was the point that you made to your call. Or when I was listening about these websites that are basically fan websites. They're they're they're they're basically feeding it's a feeding frenzy for the base. Okay. It's no different than Donald Trump. If you wanna say Donald Trump going to the panhandle of Florida when he wants to take all of the attention away from whatever's going on in the beltway or Nancy Pelosi or Shurmur doing the same thing with their base. Okay. That that's what's happening. I think from a from a news standpoint it began with print when they said, well, if we don't sensationalize we can't. Sell papers. And if we don't sell papers that I'm going to have to go abroad to get a job. I'm gonna have to, you know, my my my my younger brother Kurt who's named after by the way and got his masters in journalism in Tennessee. That's what he's been doing. He he's a layout editor he was once in the UAE. He went on to the Anwar, the former Burma and now he's in Hong Kong because there's no money to me bait here in print journalism. That that is one hundred percent true. And and I I wonder though, Tim in in terms of the industry is not only reading for guys like us. But people I mean, we had a guy on earlier today. He came in prepared to offer a Twitter comment. I mean, he he knew exactly what he was doing. He I I'm willing to bet he had it. He had to prepared. He had written in front of him. But that's what happened to you. Do you do interviews all over the place? And if you do an interview and something, you know, gets blown up. I mean, you you're interested. I mean, you pay attention to it. Now seems like people are just are just saying things just so somebody will pick it up. Right. Exactly. Yeah. And and. That that that's it's it's all about what can bring the most attention. And that's all that matters. And depending upon where you are. And I I tell this to young would-be broadcasters all the time, I say, you know, enjoy the journey, but understand that the more you can do and the more different positions. You're put in the better off. You're going to be don't go out there with this notion that you're going to change the world with one statement, or you know, one headline because that statement or that headline could be misconstrued and could cost you the job. You know, it's, but there's this insatiable appetite to find what is wrong with anything. That said even if that's a compliment, you know, saying something, I I guess today, by example, I did applaud Georgia for upgrading its schedule. And by the way, or since I think you're seeing these announcements of of of new games and home in homes, we've powered schools you being one of those Oklahoma's got one is no Joe Castiglione announcement about a week ago. The games are going to be played in two thousand twenty one in two thousand twenty five. So it looks good. But it doesn't change things in the here. And now, but the reason this is happening Paul is because the a dis now know that it's it's gonna happen. We're going to expand to eight and finally strength of schedule is gonna matter. So you better better work on that non conference schedule. Even if you're in the mighty SEC. I try by the way, I talked to Greg sank yesterday. He's not having any of that conversation. No, no. No, this is this is not a call. This is not somebody somebody asked the question. It's winter is this a trend, and I said, no, it's it's it's public relations. It's PR in the sense that you're saying, yeah, we're upgrading our schedule. But we're doing it in a home at home with our game on the road in two thousand twenty one you know, when say look at those games that Obama's put together in the near future. But Greg Byrne knows savings not going to be there for those games, or at least majority of them. But it looks good. You know, it's good. It's good press. Georgia's doing it more quickly, and I get that. And I applaud that. But immediately a fan from LSU writes back and says, well, what about us? We're playing Texas. It no one's saying you're playing bat scheduled. I'm just applauding someone who made an announcement trying to strengthen there's that's all. And that's the issue is that we live in a culture today where regardless of what is said, positively someone thinks there's an angle it's like every. Nobody in our businesses a con man in no one can legitimately say something. Nice about anyone without someone thinking something's up. You do as we wrap up you do respond to people on Twitter, which is which separates you from a lot of people, including myself, by the way. Yup. Yeah. Yeah. Well, because you know, that's that's who I am as a human being if you've ever run into me at the airport, if you've ever seen me at a grocery store with many people will especially this time of year because the wife sends me out or maybe even at a Home Depot to pick up some Iroquois grow. That's my second job this time of year. And listen, I don't start the dirt. I just dump it. Okay. That's all our too. But if you meet me, I'm gonna have a conversation with you. And if someone reaches out or says, something to me or references me, I'll engage them, whether they have twelve followers or you know, ten thousand followers doesn't matter to me, and I will give him a chance. And then the, you know, sometimes I give them a chance to a fault. But I give them a chance, and then I move on. And and once it becomes what it normally becomes or at least fifty percent of the time. I wind up locking them. But I I do believe. Yeah. You don't mind block? You don't mind. I even though you're not really well known person you will block someone on Twitter. Absolutely. Yes. Absolutely. Because I if I continued the conversation that would matter they're still going to say what they say about me behind my back. And that's really what Twitter is you know, we've all gone to. There's an old saying about your neighbors. You know, the guy across the street got a a promotion. He became president of the Bank as opposed to vice president of the Bank that maybe the guy that was across the street was not happy because he didn't get a promotion of two weeks earlier. So he says congratulations when he became president. But then when he became the CEO that really sort of pissed him off. But he just he you know, he congratulated him. But then he went back, and he told his if you believe here he got that. I mean, that's the world we live in all I'm gonna continue being who I am to everyone, regardless of what the culture is doing around me. But I I I don't have to see it. And I and I don't wanna see it necessarily. Because once they start talking about you in a disparaging way, or particularly your your kids and your family. I'm not going to subject myself for them to that. So I've locked them. I thought right away. And I don't think twice about it. Tim Brando on Twitter. Tim. Studying that up, Tim? This was great really to me. I had a million questions for you. We'll do it too. But I I really wanted to get some pre you'll get a little bit of perspective here on a fairly quiet day. And then we did. And I know the audience enjoyed as much as I did. Thank you for coming on. You've got it. You know, you're always welcome to to to call on me anytime when you need airtime to fill my friend. Thank you very much him. Okay. About Tim Brando. I I thought that was interesting what he said, and we we have different views, but I still loved him and respect him. And he he said right there, I'll talk to anyone in. But there is there is a conversation out there, though about p people who block others on Twitter, especially when you're a celebrity, especially when you're well known and give for him. He can do it. Every once I I've never blocked anyone because I just feel like I have a program everyday where I engage and. It is a dark hole sometimes to start going back and forth on Twitter with people, especially when you when you have new earthly idea who they are at least on the program. I can hear them. We we have some semblance of an understanding. Thank you. For listening to the Paul finebaum show podcast. The Paul finebaum show airs weekdays on the SEC network beginning at three eastern.

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B.I.G. Interview | Mark Johnson, Voice of the Buffs, On Pervasive College Sports Issues

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B.I.G. Interview | Mark Johnson, Voice of the Buffs, On Pervasive College Sports Issues

"His niko medved the men's basketball coach of the colorado state rams. You're listening to the hall show on thirteen ten. Kfi thirty four minutes after the hour. Welcome back to the show. The whole show powered by energy were live from the collision specialist studios joining me now. Mark johnson the voice of the colorado buffaloes and mark this this story today i know you tweeted out moments ago arizona. Well finally happening arizona. Wildcats fire coach. Sean miller as we all know about this story that's just contents like a snowball just continues to get more and more as it goes but i wanted to get your thoughts on this situation and beyond really well. I'm not surprised that ultimately happened radi. I'm kinda surprised how long it took to be honest with you. And how selectively is what. I mean by that. Is you know. we're sitting here today. Looking at the firing of shawn miller bought at kansas. Just last week A lifetime contractors. Give it a bill self in kansas was in the middle of this deal as well. So it's interesting how things have kind of unfolded and how selected can be. I always harken back to the great line. Jerry tarquini and years ago when he was you know it is nonstop battle with the aa one. Time said win. Kentucky cheats western kentucky is put on probation and and i think there's reasons why we all struggle against but what we're seeing here today and kind of contradiction of what happened last week compared to what happened this week Scratch your head a little bit. Yeah no question about it. I know you tweet it out to the axe so to speak starting to five. This is something we thought would happen at some point. Mark but man. This story really was just absolutely crazy. But what was it back in two thousand seventeen this entire thing about bribery. And all this stuff. I mean we've been hearing this about other schools to and mark. I fear that these are just the ones we know about i. I can't imagine how many these we don't know about well. There's no doubt about an interesting is within the kind of the circles of college basketball and college football When i have conversations off the record conversations with coaches they'll actually joke about who they know he's cheating and i've been told i had to coach told me one time years ago. I want you to think about this for a second. I had a coach. Tell me years ago now. This is a fifteen twenty years ago. Okay so long time ago. That what he was a young coach coming out he was involved in a meeting At one of the coaches conventions and wild coaches were discussing. And everything's a couple of the older. Let's say More prominence longtime coaches kinda scolded the young fellas about how they were skirting the lines if you will within college athletics and as you described it to me he said it was a little bit like You know when the the old old school mafia kind of looked at the street gangs instead. Hey you and understand how we do this okay. I'm not upset that you are breaking the law. I'm upset how you're doing it. You're not doing it with class. Expect like we do and it was that kind of mindset where we talked about. So you know there. There's a lot of this going on with always understood that there are programs that flat out cheat their programs with flat out. Do not treat We know that in college athletics. And it's interesting to me that you know here. We talked about the Kind of Contrast between bill self getting lifetime contract last week miller getting fired and we just celebrated of course. Usc which wasn't a middle of this thing as well making a run in the tournament just a couple of weeks ago as well and you know and you could hear the national folks on television. Praising andy enfield doing it the right way and let alone like you gotta be kidding me and and so it's just interesting. How we're how selective we are about this stuff and you know it's just apparently was the shadow was was on shawn miller today and then the last couple of months here and so he's he ends up getting acts where these other guys. Nobody's going to touch him at this point. Apparently and it's just such a crazy story to this one specifically but again we've this has been a lot of strange things. I mean i go back to louisville situation two years ago a little bit different of a situation but still we're trying to entice players to play for a program whatever that looks like and in this case. It's hey we'll pay if you choose this if you choose this school if you choose this agency once you go to the nba. I mean so many mark somebody convoluted plans to this man. I mean the other thing. I think about two with the transfer portal. I was going back and forth you today. Are we going to see more of this just in kind of a different capacity. Well i think the one thing. And i'm not sure if i've said this that one of the reasons we're seeing so much activity in a transfer portal right. Now is the kobe nineteen deal. Okay and the fact that You know you didn't lose. Europe eligibility and so coaches are sorting out their roster. Trying to figure out what it's gotta look like you have a balance between going to bring back a potentially a sixty or senior. If you had a redshirt season early on where i've got a younger crew that's coming in who might be equally as good from a talent standpoint. Now the experience to make sure the young guy gets the experience so i'm going to allow seniors. Take off and go find some other place to play and so i think we're seeing In exacerbated transfer portal this year as a result a bat. I just caution. People don't base your opinion totally right now on what the transfer portal is based on what. We're seeing right now because i think right now. It's not steroids now. Two years from now sitting here where things have settled down. We hope from a coach standpoint. And everything's getting back to some Some sense of normalcy. Then i think this thing will still be active to some degree. It's just not going to be what we're seeing because you know you wouldn't have for example. Let's take the university of colorado right. Now you wouldn't have gerardo horn. Dallas walton deshaun schwartz out there having the opportunity to transfer because their careers would be over. And so that's why you're seeing so much activity right now in the transfer portal. So it's it's an interesting i think Probably a maybe a future of of college not clear on exactly what it's gonna look like. But i don't think it's going to nearly the wild west news right now. You know you're two for now do you think. And maybe they have this mark some kind of a a because it used to be when we started transferring right there was. You still had to kind of prove or give a legitimate reason. It can't just be because you're mad at coach or whatever you have to give some roadways. Now it's pretty much. You know anytime you want and i can see benefits for the transfer portal. No question about it but but i also think i i wanna get away from coach yelled at me and i don't like that i. I got wind somewhere that another program might want me there instead. And that's that's another thing i worry about. That's what i want to be careful of but right now. Is there really any way. Is there really any way to govern this or is it. Just hey whenever you want to transfer just just transfer jumping that. Well there's a couple of aspects of what you're talking about number one is. It's become incredibly easy to get nervous about. Talked about this other shows and taking some eight percent kind of thing. But here's what i nervous about. It's the noncommittal aspect of this okay. And and that's what i get what i mean by that is we've made it. Just you leave because the wind blew the wrong way that day and i get nervous about that. Because if you've got something going on your program if there is a a legitimate you find out you got there and there's just a personality conflict between coach. You can't work okay. I understand that. I you know things are gonna happen right If if you know. There's some immoral unethical things going out of your program. You think. I don't want to be part of your coaches abusive. All these kind of things are legitimate reasons to jump. What i get nervous about is kind of the message because we're already seeing a lot. These top level high school kids that committee played at three or four high schools over the course of their career and then they go to college. You want to start shopping around about you. Know what i my guess is there. There's a young man says we're talking men's basketball or college football. That hasn't learned a whole lot about commitment. What but commitments mean. And so then i think to myself. Well you know the next step in life You know what yeah. I got married last year. I like the fact. My wife You leave toothpaste tube off or whatever it is. I'm just going to jump ship and go find somebody else. You know that that leads to a lot bad habits in life. And that's what i get concerned about. And so you know that's number one. You're talking about tampering. Remember the Oh you're have to help me with the name. There was a big kid at south dakota couple years ago. That was one of the best scores in the country and they came into play colorado Mike dumb. I think his name is every call right and and i do know that that he was being courted. There was a lot of contact being made from other schools because he was going to graduate after his third season and could have been graduate. And i'll tell you something. I don't i don't need to You know talk highly about tat boyle everyone agrees with being really colorado. You're into that. But at the end of the ballgame tad stop during the handshake line and send to mike down. He said mike. Congratulations on your career. Listen if you plan on playing another year not going to the nba. he said. I recommend you go back and play for south dakota those fans deserve to see you for four years and not be cheated out of a final year so he said i hope if you make that decision to come back to do instead of like a lot of coaches were doing. Hey mike Getting hotter. I use you and so you know there's too many of those guys that are willing to make a deal with the devil like that that are trying to entice guys in some form or fashion out there and that's a dangerous precedent to set college athletics. Mark likely you. And i were going back and i just wanted to be perfectly clear with the new transfer. Puerto rules coaches still can't directly reach out to players but what's to stop them from you know from getting third party. Fourth party fit whatever to let this player. Beat a certain stud player for a team. That's maybe in a smaller conference to let it be known. Hey kind of like she. Somebody told me that i. He's interested in how what's to stop them from doing that. There's nothing and it does sound like a little bit like you know back in high school doesn't go till hotel susie that i gotta think she's to right and there's a lot of that going on and you don't what's happened because and i'm not sure the average fan out there understand this. The high school basketball coaches have been taken. Totally out of this equation. I don't know people realize it or not. I talked to coach. Is tama talked about this many times. So that much. Do you talk to high school coaches. He goes out rarely rarely. If ever do you talk to a high school coach anymore. It's always the you guys and those guys are involved and we well know because of what we talked about shawn miller and the thing that went down the fbi into stuff with the nc double a. who was in the middle of that issue shoe companies. Okay and so. I don't think people really realize kind of what the driving force behind that level of basketball is right now You know they're so to point a lot of times what can happen is You know i'm a. I'm a coach. That i you know i. I go by sneaker. Company from my school is is x. And i've got a great relationship with the aau coach who is also sponsored by the way by team acts by sneaker company officials. Say and so what happens. A lot of times is I look around the country and go. Hey you know there's pretty good player over that program. I talked to my guy with the same go. You know what that Kind of like you would ever think about transferring. Well you know. i'm not making contact with. But the coach who still has contact with that kid because he was important in his life and help guide him. The first time he went to college also makes a phone call. Checks up on you know You know young manda and and they have a conversation and go. Hey by the way Coach over a program be Likes you if you ever think about transferring things are not going real well and so. There's a lot of that going on and ready. Here's another thing for you. Think about this second. There are plenty of coaches out there. That have told me that when they start to identify a player on an au team. They'll take a look and see who the sneaker companies that sponsors them. And if it's not the same as my school chances. I probably can't get that. Kid i mean think about. This is the kind of stuff that i don't think. The average fan thinks about a lot of times that are behind the scenes that people like tat boiled and the guys that are trying to do it. Right are out there. Battling trying to navigate because it's You know it's thirty other underbellies th that side of it to just absolutely blows my mind. The other thing. I would worry about is coaches if a coach gets onto a player if yells at a player. And i'm not saying that you know every player in college nowadays. You know kids these days can't take it. There's plenty of them. That are way way more mentally stronger than than. I could imagine. But i do worry about that. I was told by a division one coach former division one coach. He was getting texts and calls from parents asking. Why did this why he did that. I mean this is the d. one level and that's where i wonder does it get to the point where it's like. I don't like being yelled at. I don't like being benched. I don't like running laps. Because i turned it over three times in a row. I'm leaving. That's what i really worry about. Because a coaches constantly looking over your shoulder then eddie. Highschool coach coaches listening than new sports. Understands what it's like the parents now. You'd like to think at the power five college level at as high as he is since you're dealing with young men at this point in time even though you know i call them kids because their kids to me. Because i'm old but they are young. Eighteen nineteen twenty twenty one years old. That may be mom and dad wouldn't be involved in that in fact My son was a college football player. And i made it very clear to him Said hey listen You got a problem with your coach. That's none of my business okay. You're going to be doing what you're supposed to be doing or not doing what you're not supposed to be doing and make sure you're following guidelines with the team now if it crosses over into abuse or immoral or ethical conduct. That's a different deal. Then i'm here for you but you're a grown man. Now you're gonna take care of yourself. You gotta deal with this by by the time you get into the real world. You're dealing with the boss out there. He or she is going to be tough on as well. And and you're gonna have to deal with that kind of stuff. I'm not here to you out and make life easy on you. But that's not always the case and when you're and this is what i get nervous about you know we see with especially the highly regarded guys right when they had the big presentations on where they're going. They're so much hoopla and everyone's really important you become social media stars and then you get to college campus. You're a freshman and nobody knows who you are. And you don't see the figure to the court because you know i'm not nearly as big and strong as the guy who were juniors and seniors and all of a sudden you kind of get unhappy and then all of a sudden. You're you've gotta rolling and you're looking elsewhere. Those are the things that i think you know lessons learned from that kind of stuff. Am i going to persevere. Am i going to get a fight through and compete. I mean look at mack jones. He was sitting behind to nfl. Quarterbacks in alabama and he persevered and ultimately ends up winning national championship and be first round nfl draft pick. He thought through and competed. And i think they're a great lessons. Learned from that kind of thing. I think it's a very It can become a very messy situation when you talk about this. I just hope that as we progress with this the nc double a. is really sitting down and saying. Hey how wild do we really want this to get but as you said who knows it might. It might slow down in the next few years mark. Always appreciate your insight on this. Educating me like i said. I get confused very easily. Does not take much to take years. Mark appreciates has always been will afford catching up with you next week. Mark mark johnson. The voice of the colorado buffaloes their love talking to him and i saw them just to be short. I'm like hey so so. Let me make clear here. Coaches cannot in any way directly. Go up to a player and say hey you were really good last year. If you're ever looking to make a change let me. no no. They can't do that if that ever gets found out. It's tampering but there's nothing to stop a coach from letting someone else no you know. Hey rumor has it that this guy. This coach really thinks you're stud player. I think you're amazing. Fewer to find yourself in the transfer portal who knows man who knows twelve fifty one time. We're going to take a short break. We're going to wrap up our number one. I got a lot of stuff to get to today. And we haven't even scratched the surface nuggets postgame stuff rockies postgame rockies. It was a fifty minute delay or whatever due to rain and then we go thirteen inning so it was a late night. I stayed up a watched. Only to witness the rockies. Lose this thing but there again some positives you can take time. A- bags were pretty bad. Teams twelve fifty one time. We'll we'll be right back. 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The Omen

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The Omen

"And. I think we're. Oh, we are welcomed eilly questionable. I'm Dan lemon talks. God's wasn't ready to start the show you catch every day ten to one eastern ESPN radio and also stupidity. Not gonna ask him. What he likes on the show today valley? He says about side for the gets up. They lost the places when down the only score fourteen points Dame is Damian Lillard. I don't know why he would do that in Spanish and call him dominate. I don't think anyone calls them that in Spanish. This is a nice story with the trailblazer. CJ McCollum after getting into a whimpering match with the Golden State Warriors being unfair was told on Twitter. Hey, win a playoff series and his responses. We're trying Jennifer's now they've won one and much as I wanna make this game last night about them. It wasn't Denver was terrible from three they were six for twenty nine if they play that game again and again against any team remaining in the playoffs. Denver will lose that game every single time. And I'm actually with you the nuggets should be concerned. They should be encouraged that they have held Damian Lillard and Chet. They really should be. Because no one's been able to do that. They should be concerned about themselves. They scored ninety points last night for the second time in his place. The only did that three or four times during the regular season. They should be concerned about that supporting. Because if Jamal Murray is gonna play like Jamal Murray played last night. This is not going to win that series. If he plays the way he didn't game one eight fifteen twenty three points and supplemental joke could do the nuggets chance to win this series important point. Nobody cares. That's good. I mean. Late you want the warriors rockets. But no, I will do it for warriors rockets that will not do it for this ever. What it make more sense for to signed with the nets than the Knicks. The Knicks fan would be really funny expecting him to come to New York going nearby. A better situation with their roster in every way, and it's amazing to see how the Mets have mismanaged so poorly to get in this position. They were offering contracts to people like Tyler Johnson, they got lucky two or three times. The people didn't take them up on their offers. And now they only have one MAC spot in the only advantage. The Knicks have is they've got to MAC spots available. So drink go there and create an instant with another superstar if that's in the planning, but the only way we'll know that. So if it starts to happen with the nets because Durant planner, and he's running a business is if you see them trade Deandra Russell now because then they know that he's coming go to the nets. I dare you want validation go to the nets. I dare you to go to the nets where you will get zero validation. Certainly not from me. Dan, you go you go to the next. But the exact reason she just pointed out the Knicks are actually the first time capable of saying this. They are set up to sign two free agents heels, and they have the pick. And that is very important if you're Kevin Durant and you're looking at. Hey, where should I go? Should he go to the team that has to get rid of every single player in order to sign me and another guy or trying to go to a team? They can just slop the in. I could play with superstar and maybe Williamson. That's where you go. You go to the mecca you go to the next win the championship. You win one. There. You will get all the validation you've been seeking since you went to funnier. If you did this to the Nixon went to the nets lease Durant so much fun. You. What is your Knicks? Yeah. Actually his job. You gotta be bleeping kidding me. We've got wiretaps involving hymns to sing. Basically. This is coach saying ten thousand dollars a month. That's what it costs to have eight on the team. I can't believe that we are so immune to the business of corruption that we've arrived in a place where it's no big deal that sworn testimony will show you that to get a starter at Creighton. It's going to cost you about one hundred ten thousand dollars. So what he's doing might actually be something that's not punishable with his job because it's such a dirty part of doing business now as all this F B I reporting is showing us we all know, everyone is doing this kind of garbage. And if you've got a famous guy who's made you better at doing the garbage stuff than others. You might be able to actually withstand this allegedly doing all this garbage. Look at me be responsible. They're listed Shawn. Miller. Here's the funny thing about this entire story. Dan, I've been operating under the assumption that this is going on in college sports Pacific. College basketball and college football for my entire life. And we finally arrived at a point where you have a coach wiretap who's admitting to paying players. The Andrea eight ten thousand dollars a month yawn. No, one cares. And he might keep his job at why would he keep his job? He literally has the team the best thing that money could buy and he's never been to a final four. Why would you want to be your good? Why is got so radioactive reds screaming at his television into a final four. He's paying players to not make it to a final four fire. The you see show Miller will hear about this. Sean miller. Oh, that's right. Sweaty. It is Shawn Miller. Oh my God. What FBI wired so my God. Oh my God. Are the biltrite to make it more expensive to tell Kate? Okay. This is funding for a few different reasons. The bills have been really awful across eighteen years. They got the only quarterback that got them to the playoffs. They got rid of him. Otherwise, they wouldn't have a single playoff game in eighteen years. But it's also the tailgating party anywhere in the NFL that I believe I can accuse of having a drinking problem. The things that happen that tailgate are irresponsible and dangerous in the NFL doesn't want the liability. So while this looks like money, grabbing that doesn't behoove the bills as bad as they've been. I understand whether trying to clean up something because people are doing stupid, embarrassing stuff. 'cause they're drinking all day outside the buffalo stadi- if not the first onto bills trying though Dan they have done this before they charged one hundred dollars it prevented. Absolutely nothing. People are gonna tailgate people Drake and the Bill should be ashamed of themselves. These fans, and they wanna let loose on Sunday. They have come out to that stadium in the cold weather forever watching that dress. Football team. They going to be the bills to be paying the fans that come out to the state even tailgate they should be providing the alcohol. Horse poop. All the bills should eat that so won't be able to see any more videos like this one here. Don't make me throw up. Okay. This. I thought it was gonna be yes. One hundred dollars. Tony. That'll be one dollars. One hundred dollars drunk idiot that cost to one hundred dollars that fool. From cash. Yes. Jamison, of course. There you go number nine one dollars ninety four. That's right. That too. Just go. We are now approaching seven hundred dollars. More. Are you kidding me? Why would the NFL trying to get rid of someone's clearly going catch fire? Eight hundred dollars. Schuch baseball teams line onto the jeopardy guy. Bobby what is the name of this grinning freak James host dire. That's right. Everyone knows this because he's rigged the whole system. He's basically ruined jeopardy's better at it than anyone's ever been. 'cause he's sports gambler with a sports past and one of the things that he wanted to do was learned from Billy bean and THEO Epstein how to do baseball stuff. This is great that he can actually be someone now that baseball has to pay attention to because he's doing things with numbers in his realm. Maybe he's got something to offer a team that's trying to find some winning in the margin. He's gonna pour les. His success on jeopardy into a major league baseball job. I mean, I- outraged that is ridiculous. Why would you hire him? He has no qualifications other than he knows to take the big numbers. I the big dollar amounts. I so the daily doubles worth more money that makes you qualified knowledgeable. He knows all the jeopardy. I think the question is why would this guy want to work for major league baseball team? Why we want to put in all the hours? I mean, why would you wanna do that? I just right out. Jan. You've won like one point four million dollars. You can rack up there put that money away. And then this guy is so good at gambling. I'd rather spend my time gambling on baseball. Then working for baseball team that seems like a lot more fun. He's been banned from Las Vegas casinos because his betting on baseball has been so good. He is a probabilities expert. I would give an innovative mind chance. If for no other reason than maybe thinks differently. Maybe could spot some trends. There's no reason not to do this for a baseball lover who just wants to play around and was once willing to work in baseball for an office for free, and I would tell the innovative mind who can gamble for a living not to work nine to five. Gotta check with the best one the one that will be ever to be to rose. You gotta check with Joe show. He's a master Pete Rose. Joe rose. Spurs v morning Joe host in Miami. Nex highly questionable do spaces like this. What's going to be in there, though? What is going to happen? Oh, my son's TV shows cent that by or Neto sticky. La a short worth taking. Do play the game. Just remember that the Lakers make the playoffs. Do you quit you give us topics eventually quit? He's just going to remember that every day we've done this before. Question if we should be paying more attention to these joker pass on my father loves to take the nicknames. It doesn't say joker there. But it comes out smoothly over here with the nickname. Should we be paying more attention to Nikola joke each this is like the seven time? They've asked me this question to just throw it to some highlight of a guy who doesn't look very athletic. But does mazing thing. Yeah. Was it between the legs between the lines? It was wasn't does low it down. There is. Yes. The answer. The question is we should be paying more attention to him. But we will not be paying any more attention. Because the only question we asked around here is whether he gets enough attention. Well, I tell you one thing that was very impressive. But if I say, we're there who he would have three guys late. Passy ball all gone right through there. Because he small that's right. These big joke. Do you question wish it was more demonstated for these fan? We are in a situation here where we are halfway through this show on the worldwide leader in sports, and we have not covered a single baseball Fehr ball. However, we've got to to show you hear from a dodger giant game. Here we go. Once this first one. Second innings. All right. I got this. Oh, wow. We dropped them. No. You can't draw on them fry decision. Their fries. No. That's a porta session. No bad choice there. But see the other one. What's the other foul ball? Third inning. Something else happened. Same fan believe it or not saying fan. Are you kidding me? What are the to replace it with some nachos? And know somebody's got not drew cheese of their bold spot pizza. Casual she remitting. Listen to me now. Now, they're serving. Man that you can give up on that piece on those fries and that dog you gotta get on your Nissan. You've gotta eat them. You know, even the floor their go for you. Hell they're very healthy. You know, and and hell. I tell you one thing you that stuff of the four and you're stronger, you know, that you don't have to worry about dollar G any type of the seas. You know, they strengthen your immune system. Infomercial for food on the floor and the health benefits of germs. Question. If these cats curiosity was justified curiosity was a bit of an adventure there. But it was fun to write long wasn't it. Let's see if this cat's curiosity was problematic. Was this justified justified? They love boxes do spaces like this. What's going to be in there, though? Oh, no. What is going to happen in those? Oh. Oh my God. What the hell you gotta be. Why what what what no? Time to play began hate when he wakes himself by snoring. Too loud Lee. No, you tell us what to watch on TV tonight is quite the prodigious snore. Look at that nose. Ladies and gentlemen, Bill for snoring. Tonight on ESPN raptors seventy Sixers. Yes. Poppy, the head coach of the Sixers Brett Brown. He perpetually looks like he's just been laid off in the high pressure job look at him here as he talks about Jimmy Butler. This was James Butler. That was the adult in the gym coach came in here. And he said this wasn't Jimmy about tonight was James Butler because how mature name is James, literally, Jim. There you go Brett Brown doesn't know the names of his players and also looks really he's been drinking all day to high pressure job. Just got all lost thousands of dollars. Got you intrigued after a win, right? That's right after victory on the road against. Yeah. Sure. I'm intrigued is the NBA playoffs. I intrigued you intriguing CC police. I haven't prediction for tonight's game. He goes in those note that what he's going to happen in the game. But they got a big prediction for tonight. Okay. So it's just to be clear to recap. It is a prediction that does not reflect what is going to happen in the game. Go ahead, buffer greats grapes greats. Great Lakes, really. Joe? Ago before and game and my father. Okay. There's my father's prediction only belief was that bad analysis. Dusty? They haven't been cleaned in seven years. My father says they were a little bit does a little. Different studio with the refrigerator that nobody's clean seven years. Right now on why the end of resin Mets. No. But how about we check out the end of the reds game yesterday with Jesse Winker? What did he do? Feel why these the left field? He's up one nothing too. Outs way to go Winker. All bye. Bye. Bye. It's fine. You can do that. When you are Damian Lillard. Less effective when you are red and your name is Jesse winger. No reds game around here in ten years. I don't blame you. That's that's how about you gone to are. You intrigue all see intrigued. But what he did the other day. These guys crise man Jesse white. The other day. This whacky Jesse Winker. Oh. Maybe thank you. That's like me on a diet. What I shouldn't. He's crazy. He turns out such as do that. That's true. That's right. Streaming on a and E dot com. Billy the exterminator. Oh, you know, this is one of these animal removal shows they're dangerous here. We've got a situation involving B's. What happens right there guys? That twenty two years I've been doing this, and that's a second largest he's ever seen had to entry points. One low one high about fifteen to twenty foot, and that was completely filled with these we knew we had our work cut out for us usually a job this size. We wear be suits. But because of how high in the tree this is I think we'll be safely out of their flight path down here. All right, man. Ready to fired up because we don't wanna get too close to the nest. Once we start blasting Ricky, and I are using long flexi hose, which we are going to catch to the fodder. Suddenly are quit started malfunctioning instead of shooting a strong bog full of chemicals. All that was coming out with a bunch of hot air. Kelly ring children. Let's regroup that not. What did possibly go wrong? Right. I could've worn a beekeeper's outfit or I could have dressed like a member of poison. What could go wrong? Scott's. You intrigue. Yeah. I mean, that's exactly the way. But it Billy the exterminator. Honest to God, really? I was in motley Crue forty years ago, you intrigue all CC. But I know someone who needs an exterminator. Who right? Oh. That's right. Yes. And then going. Bothering filled with fire anybody in that body. The water is not gonna help your working there. Oh, that's only have today. Thank you for what every day ten to one eastern. It's the biggest sports radio show anywhere in America. Check it out. I say America. Are you going to be back tomorrow? Yes. Plumpy feel real bad. Poppy. First thing happened or family alone.

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Hour 3: 3/8/19

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Hour 3: 3/8/19

"The Paul finebaum show podcast is brought to you by capital. One capital. One is reimagining banking offering account with no fees or minimums that can be opened in only five minutes Capital One. What's in your wallet, Capital One and a? Cried packing pageantry of college football leaves here. This is the Paul finebaum show. Our three podcast. We welcome. You back to second half of the program on the final day of the week. The SEC has had one of its best basketball seasons in modern time. Maybe it's best with three legitimate final fourteenth. But one of those teams possibly the SEC champion could be going down in flames amid a scandal. Tonight will Wade the head basketball coach at LSU has been suspended indefinitely. The school announced late today. The decision comes a day after FBI wiretaps intercepted phone calls between Wade and an aspiring business manager in which way to express frustration about his inability to close what he described as a quote unquote, strong s offer for a recruit the statement came mid after. Soon by f king Alexander Joa leva the Commissioner of the SEC has added to that statement and the future of weighed up in the air the future of this basketball program hanging in the balance Glenn Guilbeault covers the team for for the Gannett news service down in Louisiana told us about thirty minutes ago. He does not believe there is any chance. We'll wait will return as the LSU basketball. Coach more of your phone calls at eight five five two four to seven to eight five. We'll get Seth greenberg's reaction coming up shortly. Let's go to grant and Baton Rouge grand. Thanks for the call. Appreciate it could after noon, dear. All just had a question. So we recently heard about what happened with Missouri with their and a sanctions, why should LSU suspend weighed when Missouri who cooperated still seems very harsh sanctions. What's a fair question? I think it comes under in Missouri case, they adjudicated it, and they got blindsided the problem with any NCWA matter. Grant this. If you if you have reason to believe someone has done something wrong, and you allow them to continue you put your self and even greater jeopardy. Now, you you could simply say we don't care prove it in this case, they the tape is. So is so incriminating in relation to potential NCWA violations at the school, the integrity of the school is bigger than one person. I can't give you a perfect answer on that. But that's that's that's what they are thinking right now. Let's let's limit our exposure here as opposed to exacerbate the situation. Thank you, Paul. Thank you very much. Great to have you on. Let's check in next. I think Ben they'll try them. One more time, Ben go right ahead. Are you there? Yes. We are. Thanks, ben. All right. Thank you for taking my call. I just had a western about I understand like FBI had a wiretap and everything how does the FBI actually get involved. I thought like this was just an NCAA. No, well, hold on this a bigger story. This is about a Dita's and and their relationship with college sports. So that's how it started. Oh, no, the NCW couldn't have figured this out if you'd give them a seeing eye dog. I mean, they're just not that smart. So this this is a this is a gift from the the FBI to the NC double A because of something bigger the corruption of of Hugh of shoe companies. And that's how all this started a couple years ago reporting, oh got caught up into a Shawn Miller Bruce Pearl's program was implicated when with one of his assistant, his assistant coaches, it has not touched Pearl yet were directly, but he certainly is been living under a microscope for the last two years. So does that mean you really only need to worry about your program? And if you're you have a deal with Adidas, no, listen, you can't, you know, doesn't it means that if you're the president of the university, you'd better be concerned about everything that goes on your ultimate Lee responsible. And if you it's one thing to have plausible deniability is I had no idea, by the way, this university has been aware of this since October. I'm fairly interested in finding out. What if anything they have been doing? There's not a lot of evidence. They've been doing much Joe is up next. Joe go right ahead. You're on the air on this Friday afternoon. Hey there Joe. Hey, paul. Hey, how you doing? We're doing great. Thank you. Well, I'd like to champion on the thanks for taking my call, by the way and happy women's international day to all the women out there because what's on your mind. Joe? Okay. I want to talk about the LSU thing at what point. I mean. Joe lever at what point does he have to start taking responsibility. Well, ultimately, he's going to take responsibility his contract's up next year, and he made this higher. And I know one thing I if I was an independent council down there. I'd be I'd be like trying to find out. What what exactly did you do? Did you do any due diligence? Did you did you check out rumors? And you know, now everyone's saying they heard rumors about will way. That's what I want to know. I'm not sure whether he'll be around after next year. Anyway, it's pretty obvious. He's not particularly well liked by many people. He's gotten away with the doors Ron higher. He looked like a genius with the we'll wait higher that is now being smeared all over his face. Oh, yeah. Well, I mean things like especially with the you know, what have more or less miles and then over here on and now they I don't take them to women because it just seemed like he don't know when to hold them and fold them. I mean, but that I mean, the host goes I mean. The shouldn't ho school or the trustees or whatever even go to the highest point on the clinch. I mean, they gotta know something going on the crushing holidays. Thanks for the call. Joe does does anybody take responsibility intercollegiate athletics where you just try to get away with murder and hoping to catch his you Cody is in Kentucky, you're on the air. Hey, cody. Hey, buddy. How you doing? We're doing great. Thank you. Cody there apparently coat. He's not there. Let's go to Reno in Tennessee, Reno go right ahead. Hey fall for having me. Thank you. I paul. I wanna talk about tomorrow's game with Tennessee Auburn at how this could possibly be of huge trap game for the myth because if penalty does not come in focus tomorrow, and they are focusing on. What's what's up ahead? They could be in trouble. Yeah. I think it's first of all I think it's a dangerous game. Anyway, auburn's got some injury issues. But this is a. This is always been a tough game. Overlook. This has always been one of the toughest games. I think on the calendar because I mean, auburn's one of the tougher places to play Bruce parole, Scott added motivation. So yeah, I I would totally agree with you. I think it would be a hard game to win. Not a game. You want to overlook? They're they're they're not overlooking. I mean, they know where they're going. They tied Auburn last year for the SEC championship. They know all about Auburn like if they can win tomorrow, they can get they can they can they have a better shot to one seat if they loo- L. Yeah. They have to they have to win the more. They can't lose that game. Right. And I got one more question. What come over ATS shoe and has some shots one day? I would love to on my way. Just just just reserved a bus to to that part of the state. Hey, thanks for the call. We're up against the break if you'd like to call us, we can fit you in on a Friday afternoon that has been jammed packed with news, especially the will. Wait haven't really heard a lot from LSU fans about this yesterday. I'm told when I was traveling that many were thinking this was negative news fake news unfair news. What about now? Do you? Do you think LSU made the right decision today in suspending we'll wait or do you think it was the wrong? Call. Eight five two four two seven two eight five a lot more to do on a Friday afternoon to listening to the Paul finebaum show podcast. Well, we welcome. You back. Manda busy one glad you're here. Eight five five two four to seventy eight five. Elmo returns the show Elmo. Thank you very much. Greg. Yeah. Well, I'm here. I'm here. I can't believe it. Are your on tinies? I tell you that was quite a quite a real. Oh, my goodness gracious. Oh, I call this show with opinion. I don't call to ask a question. God, God only knows all these horrible questions. Lazy intellectually? Oh god. No, I call with a pinion. Check this out Paul thank put on your thinking cap. Remember when when all of this broke last year and burn at at Alabama said he was going to conduct an investigation. Right, right. Well, yeah. It took twenty four hours. Right. And he decided he was going to fire the director of basketball compliance. So after a twenty four hour eight sauce investigation. That's the only hand in Alabama that role now shortly there after all down this can be double and triple check with David rid bath. He tweeted that Alabama better be better be shaking in their shoes because the data's Rutter gained the director of basketball compliance over one hundred thousand dollars. That was never brought out Paul, but David ridpath brought that out, and I I would rent, and I know you do too. I do. So we're going to all have to sit here and wonder what was a hundred thousand dollars four was it for the director of compliance to keep his mouth shut or wasn't for director of compliance to hand out to the walk. And I will close this out by saying to ball. Our our friend, Bruce Pearl. Aide better be he'd better be shaking to down there because there's just a matter of time before before his number one assistant that as going to have to roll on him and that those transcripts gonna come out. Because Paul we're not that stupid. That that they had coach and top person Pearson would know would know all this going on and burst Pearl. They'd know a damn thing. We're all smarter than that. All that's all. I got for you. And I'm gonna call you again. If if it all right? Thank you very much. You raised some really interesting points there in the in the parole case seemingly disappeared, but none of this stuff. Disappears embarrassing day for the SEC, especially down in Baton Rouge, clay in Tennessee, go right ahead. Klay, welcome to our program. Yeah. Hi, paul. Yeah. I read the transcript, and it's pretty obvious that he, you know, there was intent she conspiracy, whatever. But you're something else that transcript that, you know, no one's brought up and I'm not trying to be too self righteous. But every other Senate contained in expletives right now out of his mouth. And you know, it's it's hard for me to respect someone like that to a grown man that supposedly professional. That's the talks like that. And I just think it shows a flaw in his character. And you know, I've been excited about the season all year, and but obviously that is coming to a close as far as we'll wait involvement. And I just think they need to pay with him and move on and find someone more tiger by by the way. I totally agree with you coy. You can you can tell a lot about someone by how they speak when no one's paying attention. It's it's an Oakley Shayo leave it to that. But could hope or a convicted felon or a convicted. I mean, there's just no. Cincinnati. You can't I'll give you the legal explanation. You can't fire him yet. But because you you there's a lot going on there and you need to keep him on a string. Because the one thing you don't want him to find too much religion. If you follow him, I or cash drift, can you? Remember someone else who did that you're the you're the guys who who who have backed him now for the last six months while this case was churning. So I I don't I don't think they really know what they're doing. And you know, I had I don't mean to be too cynical. But I'm going to be you know, let's not give LSU too much credit today for doing the right thing any idiot could come up with this conclusion that he had to be suspended. I mean that that took no imagination whatsoever. After yesterday, any reasonable person thought less LSU is running a bunny and CLYDE operation. He was not. He was not coaching Tamar. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I I've just fallen on the rat last night everyone's trying to tie split. Hairs and saying, there's no, you know, absolutely, Gle proof or whatever. And I've been in a mean, SAF noon, and I side to flip on your show and find out what was going on you As found out on. Thank you very much. Great to hear from you. John is in Chattanooga next as we roll on on this Friday afternoon. Hey, john. Hey, paul. How are you? Well, thanks for the call you, sir. Yeah. Long long-time listener first time, I've had a chance to speak to you huge admiration for what you do. I went to UT Paul graduating ninety one but actually have actually in Alabama now going to the Auburn Tennessee game my buddy lives in Madison. And he called me back in early January said, hey, I've got this ticket to UT Auburn game. And we went to high school together and west Knoxville, but we're going down tomorrow and looking forward to that. We're actually sitting next to the Auburn students sexist to this ought to be interim or you're on then I won't be fun. Oh, yeah. Yeah. It will be and how ironic that we're sitting next to the over suit at section, so it'll be fun. But I I wanted to chime in on this. We'll way you know, being from Chattanooga. The best thing that happened to UT Chattanooga, Paul with when we'll wait left and went to polish off too smart. You know, he was at Lisa. You and went down you teach nigga went back to you is the head coach with smart went out to Texas. And then a fellow that he was hard at LSU, and I've had fallen this case for the last year. You know, we all knew this was said, it, I I can't believe that LSU hired fired him, but I'll say that exploitative rant. He went on. That's the same. We'll way back UT. See these see you the same way and I see on the sidelines year the day at the Florida game. You know, see the the guys just trouble, you know, LSU. I just got what they say. You know, I I'll tell you what here here's the. Here's what here's what they're up against though. I mean, I I'm beginning to read the tea leaves Ross Dellinger who's a very good reporter now for Sports Illustrated is reporting that this I try I'll try news with a straight face. He said the school the school officials were were blindsided by the who report because after speaking with Wade earlier in the year, he assured them. What had already been made public represented the full extent? Now, are you supposed to take a basketball coaches version of the story or are you supposed to do diligence and have some independent cooperation if possible? To now. Now now now now they're clearly trying to fire him they're going to they're going to claim he he misled them, and and then he'll sue them. And it will be a bloody war. Oh, yeah. And and I don't know if you'll get into show cost penalties. I, you know, we had Pearl at UT as you know. And then you know, you got into his mess. And now he's down there at Auburn. It looks like I and I'm telling this thing is just get started with a belief. Shawn Miller when he has to testify in way to weed in there that'll? Well, yeah, you're right. I mean, if you following any of this nonsense in Washington, it is amazing. What happens when when officials are faced with going to jail they suddenly start spilling their guts. How does that amazing? How that works. It is. Well, I listen, I just wanna say again, Paul how much I'm so glad and thankful. I was able to call you. I only work here in this hour, and I'm on central time right now that worked out because I just got my buddies place, but just wanna tell much free say, hey, John. Thank you very much. Really? Appreciate it. Hope you have done more, by the way Dellinger continuing to report that I wonder why Wade was suspended. So when the university calls him in this morning, according to Ross Dellinger under the advice of counsel. He refused to discuss the issue or disclose anything more. That was the case. Remember, remember, Bruce Pearl was in that predicament about a year ago or year and a half ago. We all thought he may be fired. And then amazingly. That story just dissipated as Auburn moved on toward an SEC championship. So where's the SEC? Now this once this this once great league like yesterday morning with three potential final four teams now in the crosshairs of the college basketball world with with a very ugly scandal, I'll tell you what I cover this league have covered for a long time. This is potentially one of the nastiest. I have seen in a while potentially. I should say, of course, nobody's been found. Guilty yet. We'll be right back with much more. Listening to the Paul finebaum show podcast. Let me tell you about Pete who loved hockey and always wanted to play in the NHL Pete played since he was three and begged his mom to let him stay on the ice by some nights. He even slept in his hockey skates. Pete practiced and practiced until one day when he was forty seven p realized he just wasn't that good. So he threw his skates in the trash. But then you heard how Geico proud partner of NHL good save money on car insurance. So he switched and saved a bunch. So it all worked out. We welcome. You back to the program. It has been a day of dueling statements. We we heard from the the LSU administration we heard from Sankey. And now we've heard from will Wade. But what does the statement really mean? We'll just releasing a statement saying I cannot comment at this time on various media reports except to say they do not begin to tell the full story. Okay. Let's try to find out what the full story is at least from a competitive standpoint. But with Seth Greenberg who about two weeks ago on this program alluded to the possibility that this would haunt will wait throughout the tournament. When no one else was talking about it. Seth Greenberg joins us. Seth always great to have you on. Let's get right to it. Your reaction to everything that connected to we'll wait and LSU and the impacted potentially could have. Well, I think I'll shoot made the right decision. I mean, I don't think they had any other decision to make. I mean, the accusations weren't just that exist. So I mean when you have multiple reports, and you have multiple audio tapes with someone basically offering illegal the distance to prospects to get in with prospects to negotiate with prospects. The matter which that will wait with talking about your smart, quite honestly. And they and the language he was using. They don't print those type of images unless they've been verified that you know, that poll I mean, that's that's the basis of you are at your person foremost. Reporter, you know, that that's gotta be vetted. So to me LSU had no choice, and you know, I give them credit for doing the right thing, the the institution the athletic department. You suspend them with day, you go, and you investigate it. You get all. The fish possible. But there's no way in the world. Let me ask you this both. He was a player, and you had those type of accusations. They wouldn't have played the player. At kansas. So how can you allow him to coach Steve? On the player situation. We don't know really much more than all the statements that have been released. But do you think you'll play Tamar smart? I think he will play tomorrow because he asked us to suspend suspended or than I was suspect that they expect to play him. And I think, you know, from what you know, again, these audiotapes that have been released the information on the tapes that were released I it didn't sound as yet that he actually accepted anything like they were Gucci stage. And it seemed like they were talking about a third party that was involved in it. So in less they come out in the next two three hours. I suspect that he would play. But I would think it would be hard for will to then turn around and coach this show man if he is to come back because let's face it. What he said it was pretty disparaging about Abacha base. Bart. I think players resilient Bill. And this is the one thing players have short Tertir your short term memory. I mean like players they they move on quickly. And when that ball goes up, they're gonna go out point. And that's what they're gonna do that. Whether it's they've created a cost. Play for their embattled coach or they they're playing for 'cause saying that you know, what I don't like what was said. But we're gonna prove wrong going to go out. We're gonna win a championship. Having said that last year Zona was in similar situation over what happened that I read on the internet, right? They got beat by buffalo. We'll let me get to what what happens on the court because Wade won't highly unlikely he'll be almost impossible to believe you'll be coaching in the NCAA tournament. What does that do to this team, which has been not only amazing all year, but had to be considered one of the most dangerous teams in the tournament there to lead a final four good team? And now you're handing the ball to to an assistant coach they are talented enough on any the night to beat any team. I think that moving forward Nance up by tournament. I mean, whomever takes over the reins at this point because studied that for I keep things status quo. I keep things simple. I would basically use this to create a cause I would be extremely demanding in my practice sessions, hold everyone accountable and really challenges team. And I think that's what a coach needs to do in this situation. It's you can't hide from it. Just like you can't hide from investigation. But you could also use that as a rallying cry to get everyone pulling in the same direction. I would think that's what they would try to do. And I think the athletic administration has got to step up, and and and someone mystery shops Agila leaves gotta be with that team and say this is what we did. This is why we're doing it. You know, we'll behind you guys one hundred percent. But, you know, this is one of life's lessons that what are those things is an acceptable unacceptable behavior. There's right wrong. You know, whether you like the NCWA rules or not intil, they're changed you have to abide by them. And and at least you have to buy. Vitamin and you decide not to buy them. If you get caught you gotta pay the price. And that's the reality of the situation. Seth finally on that. I mean, everyone wants to knock the NCWA is as you alluded. But when when you look at what we've seen here. And this is this is not the end of it. This is tapes have been revealed by a news organization. Whoa. What does it say to people when when they read stuff like this and how pervasive is this in your estimate? His personal. This is just a typically iceberg. They're slowly. But surely releasing this information, you know, I think this is a slow, drip. If you if you really want to be honest about the situation, I think that there there's an underbelly of college basketball you can win without cheating. If you don't like the rules. I understand that. But they are the rules veto by by them. Does it difference between looking after a player at buying a player? There's a difference between having a kid over your house for dinner or giving him twenty bucks to go to a movie his girlfriend older, you don't have to worry about that anymore because cost tendons, and, you know, the number of players get the Pell grant and going and flat out just you know, trying to to I wouldn't use the word bribe because that's too strong. But persuade a player to come play for you. And and enter into a contract with per se the amounts of money that we're talking about I'm I'm extremely naive or these amounts of money were. Talking about the just wrong. It's just it's just wrong. And everyone says I noticed dude athletes, you know, that worth more look what they're doing. And all that they're getting a lot like just use an example, like Zion Williamson, he's been great for Duke dukes. Great for him. Those kids are the plane hill shoot they've been great fareless shoe, but you know, what being part of that that that program and the exposure that they receive you estates. They're playing on the context they're gonna make the network that they're creating LSU's going to be good for them. So I believe in Olympic model. That's what I really believe that people should have the opportunity used or likeness because I don't think it my opinion that it would be what people think it would be. And I and I used the Olympic Lotto's example. 'cause when he lifted some around how many people are really signed these huge endorsement deals with these and insurance companies, and and and restaurants and fast food companies about three or four that's about don't make. Don't major corporation Paul is going to take an eighteen year old kid and make the face of their company. There's too great a risk. Why do you think like a state farm? Wade still James harden. And and and Chris Paul and those people are well into their careers. Why because they actually know the character of the person that they're dealing with. So would they be a car dealership, maybe that might risk using someone or would just be a legal way of cheating by saying y'all I'll enter to a personal service contract with you as you can be Representative of of our company, but we're really not going to use you because you know, what happens if something happens in the door. What happens if something happens, you know, a DUI or or some other type of incident that could be a reflection on our car company are stockholders. So I can see some smaller organizations within a local town getting involved. But I couldn't I can't see a major corporation set. Maybe shoe. Pretty, you know, really get involved in this thing, and and quite honestly, shoe copies. Their MBA guys that just merchandise Bill feel so I mean, how many guys are we really talk about that move the needle how many you're football guy. Your sports guy. How many guys in the last five years in the SEC? Have moved the needle in basketball or football. Hell, yeah. Hardly. Hardly any. So I mean, like, so do people think major corporation, the, you know, McDonald's. Wendy's Chevrolet an insurance company is gonna take any eighteen year old make the face of an organization. I don't think I mean, maybe my way off. Now, your data on as always Seth what it would fantastic conversation tough subject, but appreciate your honesty. We will talk to you very very soon. But we'll be watching tomorrow. Paul. Thanks so much for having great stuff. Seth Greenberg the best as we take a break here on a very active Friday afternoon. We'll wait suspended indefinitely the feeling by most. He's not coming back to LSU their fate with the NC double A, probably not as severe as his future. We will get your phone calls Morocco in the final hour. He interviewed Harvey Updike. Remember that name? Some of us have tried to forget to listening to the Paul finebaum show podcast. Welcome back here on a Friday afternoon. A lot of news from LSU. And none of it is good. Nathan is in Memphis. Nathan thanks for the call preciado. Good afternoon. You'd have made. I wanna talk about LSU's baseball program. You know? Yes. Wet by Texas last weekend. And I know that's not the LSU news. That's really big today. But you know, I'm Kentucky basketball fan because I'm reading, you know, raised by mom this Kentucky basketball fan. But I think the state of the baseball pergram still doing good shape. We've got his own tonight, actually, Nathan interrupt. But I mean baseball season is in its embryonic stages. I wouldn't get too caught up on the other. Yes. Or are you know, ankle on do points? This guy has been there forever. And I really hope his leadership and guys like Breyer and has they're going to step up later and season. It'll be interesting to see where at you know, ACC tournament com. Fred is next in plano, Texas. A hey, Fred go right ahead of a take a macabre and. Come station the other day, and there was a term that came up, and you were a little taken aback that I included Tennessee. And then I'm going to use it for another purpose today. We talked about blue bloods, and college basketball, and I tell you Paul the reason that so many LSU fans are bothered by the store and the way that it's breaking is because of this you've had several stories for major media figures come out and really up on LSU. Coach wade. Hey, Fran ARA. Hey, Fred, cut the Bs. Okay. Let's let's talk about what's on those tapes. I don't wanna hear a space. I don't want to hear sermon. L S issue fan. Are you are you are you happy with what your head coaches is saying on those tapes? Heck, no, okay. Why don't you wanted to why don't you deal with that? And all these other extraneous Becca garbage probably will tell you this garbage. You pay the treasury of the people listened to you for one reason when we have people like they respect it coach by pale say, the pay wasn't embarrassment the LSU, but just three weeks ago tweeted, they rip Latino deserves a second chance to say Rick Pitino who had a prostitution scandal and his university paying staffers one. Why don't you talk about your coach is opposed to worried about Rick Pitino? Okay. Well, this is what I'm trying to get to or your. You're doing is off you skating the issue. It's a great use of I've copy station, by the way, he has a point Paul. If this would be a reported in talked about the same way that talked about when the blue bloods, Fred Fred answering this question. Go ahead is will Wade an honest coach or is he is he a cheat. In your opinion. To find out. What do you think you got? You got an opinion right now. Listen to those tastes alone. Have you say just on the tapes? It sounds as if he was doing some things he shouldn't have been doing. Hey, hey, thread, deuce guy's not going. This guy's not going twenty and a fifteen mile an hour zone. He just blew right past the stop sign. They can't find it. Because he ran it over come on what I you pay. But as an attorney, I'm not gonna Joe that's all I want to say, hey, I'm I'm asking because you know. I mean, I don't I don't know the guy that well interviewed him half a dozen times. It seems like a nice guy. All of a sudden today. Everybody thinks he's got a bad reputation, by the way, I didn't hear that. Until today. Did you I had never heard it never not one piece. I I mean, it wasn't in the universe. And I wanna go to something you reported Paul actually, I guess you would say something Ross Devonshire reported about the reason that he suspended, and this is what made this news big day, he suspended now one of the reasons that he may have been suspended, which of course, still is that he wouldn't speak to LSU is because he may have been concerned about bridging attorney client privilege. Let me say exactly what I mean. And you know about this runway. I don't blame him for talking to them that bingo because you and I both know if he says things that university and the university does not have a joint defense agreement with him. Suddenly, the attorney client privilege is breached it's exploded and not pay us cannot become. I I don't mean to jump on all these great reporters down there. But every time one of these reporters say a source tells me that Wade was asked to come in. That's coming from the university. They're spending the story to make themselves. Look better. That's bs. And it's one of the reasons that people are so frustrated with what's going on with Mr. leva the the decision to to do this today. When Tober this story broke. I I won't ask Joe liba. Of course, he won't ever answer a question because he knows more than everyone else. What what what did he do in October to check into the story other than hey will anything any truth to these stories? You know, exactly what he did. He looked at me say, well, I don't have to say anything yet. So I'm not gonna see anything and the story kept leaking. You know, what he did? He sell the messages, and he said Hibbard, no reply to delete did the SEC check into it or they just took we'll wage work. I don't think I think that's the SEC had a totally different position on the SEC Bill is visit and if you know differently to me, this is what they do not know what their what their role is. You know? The sitting back in the minute. Big can't wait to get involved in the more suddenly get in suddenly they have a press release today. And when you look at that release Paul you saw the holes in that released in you. It'd be it it sounded we'll put that together who who puts it that way. I will tell you this. I know Greg Sankey moderately. Well, that's statement didn't come out without him signing off on it. You can Bank on that. I'll be with this. And I don't know the answer. If you're if you're LSU, and you're looking at the situation, probably great great interview tweet beat you have to say to yourself if anything else that we must do. Now such a sitting the player, and they say the decision for not to sit the player. I don't think they're going to sit the plea on the right now, you know, you're right at this late hour, they're probably not going to. I don't think they will. It's a shame. And if you know what she's saying you upset, but Paul are all asking that for people who are reporting on let these facts come out and trying to say it's going to be this is going to be that it's hard. But I'll tell you we do kind of feel as if would be put on a little bit. Because the fans we love school the with objective two, and we see what's going on. We see what's being reported. But we don't like it. And I'll say I've been like what I heard. You don't speak that way, your leader min. I know the job is to win. But spill. LSU and the people of the south. They do have a certain code and standard and eat behind closed doors. We we expect our coaches and our. Cones now is to sell your coach out and act like a dozen stick to you. We'll talk a little bit Harvey updike's returned to the national scene. Hopefully briefly after this.

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Warriors Take Game 2, Giannis Destroys Celtics and Tonights Blazers vs Nuggets Game

"This show is presented by Hulu. If you didn't know who has last bortz watch live games and all your favorite teams with Hulu. No cable required. Live TV plan required. Restrictions apply. Jalen and Jacoby on CNN. Shop because if we ever do y'all pop the strong. This week. These back, ladies and gentlemen. Yes. He is still Jalen rose. What? Doe. I'm David Jacoby. Cool. Check in. Sooner stage on Lamar. And we putting it on wax. It's been news. We are Jalen and Jacoby. What is it that? We do we. The. Very exciting day here in the Jalen and Jacoby studio. Not only do we have Jalen rose back. We have to special guests. OJ Jackson junior. Will join us later say junior OJ Jackson junior. And I'm getting join us later and also our former grantland compadres and current colleague Kirk gold's berry master of the shot chart insightful NBA analysts look forward to having them. And of course, we have the huge game to to discuss between the rockets and the warriors we will not be discussing the refereeing. The officiating will not be discussed. I'm excited about and the even series between the Celtics in the bucks trading blowouts in Milwaukee. But we start last night in the bay the warriors jumped out to an early lead and never looked back. We'll discuss the impact of the injuries to curry and hardened, but we start with a full team effort from the warriors everyone played their role everyone contributed. What did you think about this team effort from the Golden State Warriors? That's exactly what it was. And if you think about it, this is the first time in a playoff game were the Golden State Warriors have all five starters score at least fifteen points. Just think about that. This is from a team that has won three of the last four championships. So now that level of balance if the splash brothers don't go off have a big game. Usually, it's K D. If none of them have a huge game. Guess what happened in game number two? Andre dollar play. Really will green was really. And now all of a sudden you get a chance to clamp down defensively. That's what's getting underrated because playing against Utah. You saw a lot of Kim IX defensively, right? All hard and size back on. His bag forcing him. You're not doing it. Don't play in their straight up. We're gonna live with the isolation consequences. We're gonna try to contest each time. And it goes to stay worth did a great job of holding serve on hot. Last night was a real good exhibition of just exactly who the warriors are dream on green, getting assists. Being officiant. Clay, getting hot way clay gets hot for this that little period Steph doing extend things obviously he was a little injured with his left hand and Katie getting to whatever spot he wanted. It felt like it felt if they wake up Katie you're gonna get fifty tonight. We're going to give it to you. He could do it. But also, I want people to pay attention to the fact that the Golden State Warriors when they're not raining threes international scoring one hundred and forty points. They do all of the dirty work into thing that came to mind when I was watching that game was effort plays offensive rebounds. They had eighteen offense offensive rebounds where big part of this game and ten steals. That means you take fourteen more shots. Than your opponent, twenty four assists only twelve turnovers when you go deeper into the box score their level of effort defensively and just how hard they play is actually why they want. That's a really good point. Because we focus so much on the individual offensive towns, but offense rebounds were such a big part of this game. How many times they get it down to five and they actually get a stop the ball bounces off the rim, and they just don't secure the rebound end. The warriors will kill you off as offencive rebounds. Because your defense is set. You're not in front of your man, and they pass it out to passes. Then you look Claire step of the wide open three. Like, I said the adage for the warriors over the last couple of years has been strength in numbers. It's not that anymore. They're relying heavily on the five guys to started to gain the lion. Share two minutes. They're scoring the lion share two points. Like, these are the handful of guys that they're truly relying on of course. And they all played so well in the highest score from the bench was Livingston with six and then you had your Revco with four. They're not getting a lot of bench scoring, but they don't need it in this series. So one of the played a major role in this game. It could continue to play a role in the series is what happened to James harden now to be fair. He wasn't playing that well before Draymond green raked him in the eyes, and I don't know on the medical term for but it both of his eyes got raped and there's fingers in them and they had to go back and he's bleeding, but he came back and played pretty well. But he could not see let's listen to what James harden said after the game about the injury. Bertie see, but. Start to go out there and do what I can help. Team is can tell light so water rises. You had trouble with your vision on the kiss. He doesn't. Whooped out fairly deceit. Chris Bosh the gave him his hat. Is blocked us on bought came back. He played pretty well. If that's how many kids see amendment again. Here's the deal. He was over three with zero points before he got raked India scored twenty nine points when he got back would hurt the team is that he missed eleven minutes in the process. That's good point. If he would have been out there the entire game. You can't say that the outcome would have been different what I would say that it would have given them clearly a better opportunity to win a game on the road. But the bottom line is. And I talked about it on this show their game to steal was game. One. The warriors didn't take care of business against the clippers. They went to game six and needed to be in Los Angeles. I predicted that they should go to the bay area that Friday night the splash brothers play in that game. And both of those guys have injured ankles. You have. Find a way that Sunday not to complain to the officials but to take a game on the role when they didn't do it. They allowed the words to settle in not at trillion. Oh, too. Well, Steph Curry's ankle was alien in that clipper series and game one. But it was his finger. And there was a moment during this game that could have been a series swinging moment Steph curry was reaching for the ball is a freakish kind of play reaching for the ball. Pokes it out but his finger did the poking his finger potent self out of the socket. Jalen, I've had this located finger from basketball incident. I'm sure you've probably had a hundred how much will this affect him moving forward in the series? It will have NFL, but not a heavy affect on his shooting because clearly is not shooting hand what it will have an effect on his ball handling. Yes. And so here's a guy that is one of the best range shooters off the dribble that I have ever seen. It's going to affect that. Splitting picking ROY. Roles. It's going to affect that playing in tight quarters finishing at the hunt. When Goss swat net, you it's going to have an effect as the series continue to progress. Now. Fortunately for him being one of the best if not the best player on his team. He'll have to be elite every night it game too. He wasn't. No he missed a game four game one either exactly they've won three championships. And he has to be finals MVP not once and so it will have an effect. But it not going to have the kind of that. Injury multiple times win will he be back to normal. He won't be in this series. And he won't be throughout these playoffs. Because the opponent knows that you're injured too. And guess what everybody's doing whacking reaching that the ball? And he has it a lot what he's going to do is buddy Tate old school. But Dr king style, you get out there, and you perform I don't think that into days game where you can't be as physical guys are going to be able to take as much advantage of it as they could in the past. But for God that's a wizard handling of ask you ball. It's going to affect his ballhandling to good point look forward to game three of this series. But else look forward to news, and it's gonna stop them from reaching in. Christian McCaffrey, my favorite running back in the NFL. I'm not sure why these a white running. What do you mean? What are you talking about? He showed up to volunteer workouts with the Panthers. And it doesn't look like he needed to look at Christian McCaffrey last year versus Chris McCaffrey this year. What do you think about swell iota, Christian McCaffrey? I think definitely gonna call him in and make sure that he hasn't been using any performance enhancers. You know, the second that they saw that they sent a Representative to train it yet also topple because he really did. He'll familiar also can do. That'd be good for his game. What he's been jersey shore this summer song. Hey, Bahia beast. He run is running out of the backfield catching out of the backfield. You're going to have training camp for you in shape. Not as well as I was when training camp ended. Let's get people do want. You guys know it only live music, but that doesn't mean I don't love live events concerts comedy shows. Broadway shows kids shows, I take my kids to a lot of these things. It's a great way to eat up some time and also don't apparent that Harvey and just sitting in the seat for over an hour. But here's what's happened the ticket industry to buy tickets for these live events, and it hasn't changed in a long time. There's a bunch of big companies that have been around forever, and they don't really care about making the experience easier for the customer. Seek does exactly that what. Seek does is they go around and they look at all the different ticket sites. And they bring all the best deals all in one place. You just have to go to one place in that is seek seek. You know, your tickets are going to be guaranteed you can shop for tickets with confidence. I actually had the seek app in my phone. I've used it a bunch of times is the easiest way that I found a shopper tickets. Sometimes if I know my wife's going to be gone all Saturday all this open up. Geek and his look if there's something I browse for events. They're obviously worked if you want to go to a specific game if you want to go to a specific concert. But sometimes I go there to see what's happening around the city, and they never disappoint me. I just you. Seek to buy tickets for play for my son for his birthday. I'm very excited about that Shepton lion. King best of all listeners of Jalen. Jacoby get ten dollars off their first seek purchase seek supports our show. So we hope you can support them as well. Go to seek download the app on your phone use the promo code Jacoby, J C O B Y pretend dollars off your first purchase. You can use that for concert tickets sports comedy. Whatever you want to do. Remember put the seek app on your phone use the promo code Jacoby, J A C O B Y pretend dollars off your very first. Seek purchase joining us now on the podcast OJ Jackson junior. Thanks. So what you're coming through. Thank you for having. Appreciate you doing a press tour for long shot again. What's it been like it's been hectic, you know, I had to do post cities and four days. It's pretty rough. I take my first train from Philly to New York that was an experience. So whereas you are so LA. You know, it was whatever. Not to be. I knew I knew I was a rookie. 'cause I got on. I got on. And I started looking for my seatbelt. And there was like. The Trade Center the bar car. Sounds a little gnat have saved that was not that long. No, no, no. It's like an hour and twenty two first class. They did they come and bring you food. Yeah. It was good. Yeah. There go what? Delano goodness. You know, I didn't get no bubble guts. I was good. Okay. It's like being from the west coast outside they're selling fruit on the street. Yeah. For sure sell selling street meet. Yeah. Yeah. I would. That man can't do that. You know back at home outside of Staples Center. They always got the bacon wrapped just away. I can never do that. I don't eat first of all no on four. But I just never trust. This do with this. He shouldn't have you shouldn't be able to put your kitchen in the back of a truck and then drive away. Cool eaten it? Here's one thing. That one of my is like I feel like the the notable foods and every city are while the overrated like people come here from around the world would be like I wanna press on the hot dog from the street corner. It's like, you know, that pretzel is is hardest cardboard. Oh, you know that man that hot dog for eight cents and put it in some hot water. Let it sit there for ten hours. K ask him like did you make this support? Yeah. Go ahead. I can't do it. When I think in New York, I think I think I think of is pizza so I'll get some Bob piece out here like raise I love raise. But like, yeah, I don't know the cuisine. I try to stay away from I I got a selected group that I stay what does it been like to see your star rise? He started getting ready behind you. Walk to the mailbox pick up a couple of. That it's it's been dope straight outta Compton. I was in. I was in the middle of college. And my dad is like yo they taking this NWEA movie series. And in my head. I'm like, that's cool. Pop. Your quitting. He said in a perfect world, our play them, and I just had to step up to the plate. And it was just about submitted my family's legacy. Putting is on them that normally don't appreciate them. You know? So I I just wanted them to give my man his roses while he was still alive to smell them. You know, a lot of the times music artists after they pass. They talk about how great they were. Then the documentary come out, and then so I I just didn't want to have that. And then after straight out of content happen, they're like yo you act a little bit. And it was like all right. Well, let's take a series. Now, let's make a career and a lot of a lot of of course, he could play his dad at one trick pony noise was going around. I didn't like that. So every roll up picked after that. It's just show my range versatility. So speaking range of versatility. Yes. What did you say? His name was again Jackson junior junior junior makes me feel so old because. Dan, rather to me, we're family I wanted to take down memory lane and show you a couple of clips this first one is I saw it coming. This is nineteen ninety four day with acuity Tanner. Remember that we were in New York City. Nineteen Eighty-four how about that. Strong. Don mega. See we were on top of a building. And they have no railings. I'm not crying dangerous life that dads. I got another shot. I want to share with you. Put me on. Okay. This next one on the movie barber shop. Yeah. How about that? Classic ten is a little slow Q in these things. Hello. Trade. Right here. All we need. Good need a good. Coming. Oh, yeah. You. Shooting that Jalen rose, absolutely. Full bitch. Along fund should longshot too. Yeah. Love the so does throw enjoy his medicinal as much. I think he does. I mean, you know, we all dabble in extracurricular. You know, it was more of a meditation thing, I know Seth gets headaches stressful. No. So bill. For medicine for the man in you know, in his position, you know? He's a he's a survivor. He's strong. Whatever support he needs support. He needs. We had a coup after party yesterday afternoon for mayor. But yeah, I would say maybe don't do it never do work for showing up for taping. After that to party. What time they tape? It. Okay. What's about contract? Nope. Here entertainment sports network. I gotta be there. There's no way around but us going down memory lane. Yeah. I'm gonna tell you right now. You'll remember me Jalen rose. It was I forget the year. But he's at a is skew concert being Jalen rose. And I'm a little kid. And I'm like, you know, when you go on the Lakers, and he looked at me, and he said man, I'm trying to get there. And then my dad on stage said Jane say he trying to be a Laker crowd. Go crazy, whatever and not an attempt was made. All right. Okay. Trying to give me big checks. The Landau was Holland. Orlando was Holland. Emmy Senate Tonia was hollering bulls. Indiana sent the fax over at twelve. Oh one. Yeah. I'm like, okay. I got a good about this pops has been a trailblazer. In so many ways that I want to show you another clip over a lot of people's head. It was from the movie. Texas football, thousands of people. All the money. American flags. Right. Above your head. About the play the national anthem. All these people turn around like Daniel up. What? Stand up. Probably be so embarrassing. Stand up. You know what I'm saying? Budge wasn't had. Not twenty five years. That. Yeah. You sorta fro frozen affect you know, my dad has always had them rose, man. You know, he's always been the guy to make you think, and you know, recipes John singleton, you know, those two were they were do. Oh, you know, that we they always talk about directors being teamed up with actors, and John and my dad, you know, they they gave us some hits and classic. So the recipes John I four. Yeah. That's always that's always been my pups. No doubt about it. I got to ask you about somebody that you've actually done a movie with ochre. He's appeared on this show as well. A follow him on social media, you probably due to government name is Curtis. Jackson. Oh, fifty and what I learned over the last twenty plus years. He's somebody that you shouldn't money makeup set. Yeah. What are your thoughts on what you see from our friend Curtis? Also should media. You know? Uncle Curtis is I called him on the set of thieves. You know, we Jackson boys. Gotta stick together. He crazy. He is fifty cents short of another. He's real aggressive and just just the the villain. You love to hate. And the more you keep people like that on your side, the safer, you, I always say one of my. You can be mean if you're funny, and he's always funny. Like, it seems like he enjoys it. Like he's not like he like right now. He's coming after young book. He always it. Yes. Oh, yeah. Every day. Powered old of a million dollars of courage Wardi. How? Bugging him. I was like I gotta kill let me let me kill Tommy, bro. Outweight more white character. We can't kill them. Bring me on let me give episodes then he'd just be a random, cameo takeout. Somebody. So you know, you gotta do that you got to take a little bit from game of thrones. And start killing off these characters people love somebody that you have not worked with that. You hope to work with. Oh, I I four most ice cube seco-. Okay. No, no, no. If I just get mom on horn. The leader of the pack. This dude is a star. I try and keep it going you making. We're really proud of you excited for you, man. So, you know, you're here we're talking about the Lakers as you should. So you are a lifetime Laker fan diehard Laker fan. This this season was you know, wasn't it wasn't up to expectations. But like speeding tickets suite holder, all so speak about just as your perspective is a Laker fan right now after that season. Are you are you feeling pas about next year little concern about next year? The only thing that concerns me is you know, the positions in the front office. You know, just wanna make sure that's all right. But as far as what went down last year. No, you know, I was part of the people who just chalked it up as another year for going to Nate until they bring it up. So you know, I was cool with that first year being the chemistry year. And you know, what not LeBron get your film and done do all that stuff? Let this first season slide. And you know, when you look at things like Lonzo, Brandon LeBron only played twenty three games together. You know, we was bit by the injury bug. So heavy and people gotta remember when Kobe retire. Gary video retired and Gary video one of the best friend, though, it was a lot of things that went into but all these single digit championship teams, get your glory. Start you sale you cert- sale you heads we'd logo. We'll be back. What about those that didn't necessarily embrace LeBron James because they were still Koby stands out. I'm a member how house Mamba. Kobe stand twenty years, we'll do that. And we got to be a little bit more accepting LA LA. You know, you gotta be we've got to be one. You know? Lebron's whole thing is earn not giving. So you know, we got some earning the do. And it's you know, he's he's going to go down as one of the greatest of all time. We we do love the greatest of all times being in Laker jersey. You know, we do dig that we need. You just haven't played the least amount of games you've ever played in your career that don't help that does more projects than you ever. In the day that magic resigned from his position what was going through your head. Well, I was in Ralph's. Grocery store on sexually big brother, Daryl. He hit me. And he was like can you talk right now. And immediately. I'm like, oh my God. What did I do? You know, what did I do? You don't know what's happening right now. Then immediately after that, I'm right here where the, you know, tell me was going down to magic quit. Johnson. Yes. It was just couldn't believe it. I just I just knew something bat worse was going to happen. There's no way magic just quits his dream job as so you know, I was just have my phone in my head waiting techs Ramona Shelburne, please. Like, we just we've always been the best soap opera in the league. And I just need just need these good times to come rolling already. They will you know, the love admiration half your mazing parents. Yeah. What is it like to be the son of a mogul in this game? You know, it's difficult is is he's got his it's got it's great days and his bad days. You know, it's it's a gift an occurs because they have a they have an idea of who you are before they get to talk to, you know, before they really see, you know, what makes you tick. They have this idea that you could come in feeling titled fill like, you know, every movie said that I go on I'm the rapper son. Until till I show that nah, I'm here to I'm here to work. You know, I come to my call time an hour hour and a half early to prove that I'm here to work, you know, the utmost professional making sure that easily approachable, and you know, is is it's the game within the game. You know? And I got a I know that as a. Black filmmaker that I got to put in a little bit more work than then, you know, what I might see fit, and those are some of the things that even John singleton used to tell me is that you're going to have to prove yourself constantly. And you know, I got mama mentality. I'm down for any challenge. They throw him in a knock it out you pay. You did a terrific job in straight outta Compton pan. So your dad NWEA. My idea is boys in the hood to. Okay with you plan. Doboy the remix I would've if he didn't fade out at the end dad died and movies. Remember? How does he keep why does he fade away? And then when I started reading the bottom. He's gone. But you know, I'm down I'm down for whatever project. You know? My my dad would definitely be behind something like that a lot of people always ask me if I were to do another bio pic would I do, and I'm really thinking should be Tang movie. So I'll be so down to being Tang movie. Would you play? Gotta be method, man. That. House working on something big documentary coming out, I can't wait to watch. But I think there is some sort of like a ridge like origin story Tang. You know, it's just so many members. I know that movie be six hours long. I love the woo in. You are now here because you're promoting long shot we show these they're on. And Seth Rogan Rizza was at the after part. It's great. Yeah. The pound. I said what's up? It was actually talking about Hannah. May I wanna get a Adamy off the ground in a feel like his music would help lots. Would you now with longshot yet fell on longshot is a super dope comedy? You know, I'm I'm so lucky to be this early in my career and get to work. We Seth Rogan Charlene's the row, Andy circuses in the move Ghalem king. So, you know, I'm mellow screen with these types, you know, and to be able to hold my own. They provided me with such a good environment to to spray. My creative wings, the director Jonathan Levin. He does a good job of balancing, the comedy and pulling at your heart strings in the movies, really about Seth who's a political journalist. I play his best friend and he's down on his luck. Take them to a party that share them up. He sees his former babysitter who's played by Charlene's. And she's now the secretary of state she's running for president. And he's still like I love her. And I'm like, we got a bag this. So it's just you know, chaos. Ensues boys to men hooked it up. You know? I know that Love's a lot of things, and I read really deep into them and medicinal seems like something that he enjoys his passion extracurricular activities. Okay. Okay. I mean, he would never indulged him like that filming of movie though, right? Right. Allers? Green room. We're the most professional instead of long shot. Of course, this winners. Longshot come out long shot comes out Friday may third. The soundtrack is bump. And you gotta see it in theaters. That's one thank you for coming by. You're always welcome to come back anytime. You don't have to have anything to promote women. Know, what's your mother's name? I know she watch the show. A mama Kim is Kim. The kim. Jill Jill Jacoby supporter. We appreciate you so much, absolutely. Shout out Jalen rose after getting blown out in game one on their home floor, Milwaukee the bucks bounced back especially Jaanus attend to Cuco and Chris Middleton who had twenty nine and twenty eight. How do the Greek freak bounce back that frustrating game? One got points in paint won the Celtics did a terrific job taking away his straight line drives and crowding the pain, and the reason why they were able to do that is the bucks weren't knocking down there. Three point shot. Not the case last night in game SU they were plus thirteen from the three point line, plus thirty okay. Okay. Middleton had over twenty Bledsoe had over tweeting. Now, you create a level of balance. So that when he attacks you have to pick and choose your poison am I going to suck into the paint force them to kick it out to guys knocking down shots. Or are we going to try to contest a meta who the Greek freak is proven us? He virtually unguarded will go into the basket is they did it. Terrific Java spreading basketball around and doing something that doesn't necessarily show up on the stat sheet. They just play harder. They did. And it wasn't just the offensive end of the floor. They played some great defense, especially on Kyrie Irving who's four for eighteen from the floor, which is not up to standards for kyri. And they asked him about the burden that he has on him offensively with the Celtics. And here's what he had to say about is no extra burden. You know, this is what I for this is what Boston trader from before. What do you think about saying? There's no extra pertinent him in. This is what they traded him. Well, somebody tried to set him up with that question because you're asking a question about emotion. I'm just glad that he didn't feed into it playing a basketball the game that he loves is not a Burton losing game two is especially when you mentioned he only had nine points. But let me tell you something. You didn't mention Tatum half five. Gordon? Hayward had five pet probably going to be the only game this year all three of those guys points. I don't have the numbers of me. I'm sure it is like I can't imagine. Let's one of injured or something happens. Sometimes well as we look head to game three what adjustments to the Celtics need to make as the series goes to Boston. You gotta get those three guys going just talked about you also have to find ways to help him recover. I know we keep talking about it being either or but when guys are at the three point line. There's a way to help on the drive and still get out to contest run people off the threes. You have to play with a lot more sense of urgency than our saw in game. Two more similar to what they hadn't gained one. They played in game two like a team. We got our one game cows money. We know. And then the books came out with force. And it was like, you know, we we splits. Nice. Nice. Nobody's exact well, sometimes there is a piece of video is just so important that we need to really unpack. We have to go to the table. Jalen rose. There are few people more annoying to me, then the weekend warrior basketball pickup player like myself. Their lips to say that they would dominate against WNBA players. Oh, I watched w n gate w NBA games. And I would dominate them and d Brown's daughter and member of the Minnesota lynx Lexi Brown had deal with one of these people a a basketball player that played D two in college. Challenged her twit one on one game. Let's go to the table and take a look at some of the action from that matchup. So here we have here. We have him up a little steal from. Lexi. I love Lexi's. Just just everything everything about her demeanor through this. She got the lashes on she got to make upon as she'd go to the whole just the whole Darius more is the gentleman's name. She was up three now six six game on the line game winning shot right there. Jalen what message? Do you have for male basketball players that really think that they could be WNBA player? It's just ridiculous. It's one thing to feel like you can beat somebody in basketball with is foolish to think. Because you're a man that she's a woman you can beat her. Of course, that's just eighty ATI. And we get the chance to see her still the ball from hill. And if I'm not mistaken that's not the only game they played because the first time she dominated. Yeah. Well, there's a couple of cuts online. They don't really show his baskets in one of them. They played once to seven and she beat him seven six, but one of my things about this is this is we should be at a point where WMA players don't have to do this any more. You know, like like I feel like they shouldn't have to do this anymore. They shouldn't have to prove that people that are professional basketball players are better than people that aren't regardless of gender. Honestly feel like dummy players should stop doing this. It's like, you know, what we're not. I'm not going to entertain you with this game. And I disagree with you. Because sports is about competition. And it's about silencing your critics. And if you got us y'all could beat me in basketball, bring it on. I like this. She not only played them. But she shot him down and shut them up. She did she has some nice finishes to the non gather finish. When you just do it with with one hand. I love that shot. You Lexi, and what did you say, she's a professional basketball? That means that she's going to be better than ninety nine percent of the people walking. The face of the earth at her jewel. Absolutely. You actually wrong about that ninety nine point nine nine percents. People walk in the face of the earth at her sport in the courtroom today. There's an audio recording played from a wiretap phone call between former Arizona assistant coach, Emmanuel, book Richardson and aspiring agent Christian dockets. Now, I want to say very clearly Shawn Miller was not on this call but Emmanuel book Richardson did say to Christian Dawkins win asked then. The program or Shawn Miller himself was compensating. Dan, rain ten thousand dollars a month. While he was enrolled at the university of Arizona when you hear this information. How do you react? That's all that's kind of what I felt like to. That's it only ten thousand the last time. I checked coaches get multi millions of dollars from the school, shoe contracts. Appearances television radio got multiple streams of revenue, and I'm not here to advocate breaking the rules. But what I will say is I appreciate the tone of the public in the media has changed about this topic since I was in college. It's good point. I remember a day where people were like just shut up and be happy that you got a scholarship if I was you do whatever I could to get somebody to pay from our school. And then people start to realize how much money was in the game. And that these young athletes are. So I'm glad that you brought this topic up. But I'm also glad that the war. The world is in an uproar like they would be back in the day back in the day. It would be there'd be a lot more folks on the wrong doing from the players and the players family side, not necessarily the programs, and the coaches, and that's completely shifted from the players to the coaches. And now the whole organization the NCAA like, I the people that really pay attention to how this sport works, especially financially that ninety percent of them would advocate some sort of compensation for athletes. Now, it is it's easy to say that when you start drilling down on the details like we'll do the smaller sports ultimate frisbee team. Come to the same football team. Does like what is the proposed solution for this problem it to the last question is no? And that's and that's how life works. If your sport is in a one that generates revenue then you can't get paid that. That's just how the game works. And so we. We focus on the players that end up making it to the big time NBA to the NFL. But what about those that don't still sacrifice and help build programs and allow these programs to continue to be cash cows. There has to be some level of compensation and you call them student athletes. Okay. Well, why don't you give them some incentive to stay? Why don't you say? Okay. If you do stay and you do graduate. We'll put money in a trust. And we'll give it to you. When you walk across the state. I like that one thing I want to make very clear about this particular topic is Shawn Miller wasn't on these phone calls. Shawn Miller was their spoken about. But he didn't say anything. So he has what again the plausible deniability that he not do this. This is not mean that Shawn Miller paid ten thousand dollars down eight every month. It just means that two people said he did you pay attention to the journey of the NCAA tournament this year. Okay. There are multiple coaches who have issue. Use in their past with the NCAA. They did got another job. And so this apocryphal going back and forth about what's considered rule? Breaking that's so very serious that the university or the coach or the player should be punished aids in the league. Now, you can't do anything to him you act. Like you're going to a race the memories by vacating the wins. Nobody cares. People saw two games getting played up. So the NCAA eventually has to come to a modern conclusion that this model of not sharing the revenue the athletes participating is an outdated one. But since they don't have to they won't, you know, what people still gonna show up at the games course. People still going to be betting on the turn out ever since they don't have to they won't. It's a really good point. Really? Well, said Mr. rose, Draymond green. Well after game one member game one of the warriors rocket series. All we were talking about the officiating all your time landing space. I'm so happy that we didn't have that problem after game two. It was a well officiated game. No complaints from either side Draymond green after game. Two had this to say about the narrative of the series embarrassing for the game of basketball. A how much has been talked about about five hundred officiating like what about being your man? What about stopping your man? No one talked anything about schemes the last few days, it's all been about foul called. So I think both teams were just locked in on coming out and plan again to the best their billion and you've got to give credit to both clubs both teams. Jalen, I wholeheartedly agree with Draymond green. I'm so glad we woke up saying we're not talking about the efficient. Do think that discussion after game was embarrassing for the game. I don't think it was embarrassed him. But I also sense. A theme that people understand how to manipulate the media and Kevin Durant echo some positive things about the rest. So did Steve Kerr now Draymond green a K D? They get a lot of takes maybe before a basketball. Right. They going last it was rescinded. But he got they contest every call that's made against them. So they understand that. If somebody's going to be looked at as complaining about the rest we wanted to beat them. Not us. Yeah. Okay. They know that they're a better team the point when it firing off cylinders. We don't want to act like we need help from the rails. We don't wanna create no distractions. We don't want three of the last four championships. We're trying to win three in the world right now. We're not going to hear them making excuses, and then put it like the ficials cost them the series where we actually going to beat them on the floor nine o'clock tonight. We have game two between the blazers and the nuggets Nikolay Yokich places. Didn't have an answer for him in game. One. Would what do they have to do to slow down the joker? There's not much. They can do to slow. Him down nurture, even when he was healthy wasn't much of a defender Kanter can score. It had a really good offensive game. He's not a defender. And so the Yokich is long as he takes his time should be able to get the shoddy won't, but the key is they have so many long enough leading defenders on the winglike Beasley like creek like Barton that can bother CJ McCollum that's going to be the key. If they can hold him from having an amazing game Denver Nuggets take game number two. We are now joined by our current colleague and former grantland brother. Big shout to the podfather and everyone that were to grant land. Grantland those goals berry joins us in studio Kurt. You have a new book out sprawl ball -gratulations. Thank you about it. I'll be purchasing it with my own money. Do not want free one. I want to contribute. We'll talk about the book later, but I wanna start with Kevin Durant. We've all watched the first two games of the series. And you know, the rockets in analytics and yourself was so deep into this stuff. You work with the Spurs. You know, this stuff layups free throws threes. Lips free throws threes. Kevin ransack. Oh, by the way. I cannot just turn around anybody from ten feet. He's sort of dominating from the mid range. What do you think about his mid range game the layups freeze and threes works in last year? Kevin Durant who the best men range shooter in in the game right now he's hitting over fifty percent of shots for for mid ranch. Which league averages about forty percent Jacoby. And that's where those margins are too bad for for the three point shooters. So the fact that he's so good at that mid range. He can turn a valuable shot out of almost any place on the court, which is what he's doing. He can get to anyplace on the court and unstoppable, and nobody has embody what you just talked about as. The release to analytics bedded in James harden, and the Houston Rockets have owned this more than any team in the history of the league. Why is he the signature player for that? Stop. Well, he is the most analytically correct player. We have in the league. And he only shoots threes and free throws a lot of free throws Jalen when he won his MVP. He was the only MVP award winner to have more free throws than field goals at the time. It was award. The dude is led the league in free throw six of the last seven years as a guard. You're not supposed to be able to do that as a guard. But he does it because it's the smartest place the score on the court. You know, he he shoots eighty percent from the line. And he knows how to get those whistles. Sometimes it's really smart sometimes it's really annoying, but it's always analytically. Correct. So there is there's a lot of discussion about how James Harden's of Fisher the last few days and probably too much discussion about that. But do you think like this people that is anti James harden thing some of my friends that really love the NBA the hate the way he plays. What do you feel about? James harden hate. But it's not up to me. I mean basketball is is a lot of our passions. And people have different opinions. I I really appreciate his analytical brilliance aligns his game with everything that is smart and nothing that is stupid. However, some of the things that are smart. A lot of people think are in violation of the spirit of the game. You shouldn't chase whistles you shouldn't jump into contact regardless of whether you love them or hate him. You have to knowledge his brilliant. And I think the landing everything is really cynical. I think that was a step too far for me because that's a rule designed to protect jump shooters. And he's out here. It's like if a quarterback could could lure a roughing the passer play to get like. Right. It's like if somebody figured out how to hack that and get that like ducked his head and got head to head combat contact and got a fifteen yard penalty over and over. And again, I just don't like that. But again, it's not up to me. That's just one man's opinion. But you cannot deny Jacoby that. It's smart not here, the enthusiasm in your voice, and you talk about analytics, but I have to go into former player mode here and say when you do a lot of isolation by James harden does and when you shoot a lot of threes wanna play offs come. You can suffocate the three point line. I've seen the Spurs. Do a tool I've seen the warriors. Do it tool? Do you think while it, so very brilliant? Those your words that stock actually won a championship. I do think that if if it's executed properly. I mean, he has run up against a once in a generation juggernaut keeping them out of the finals last year because they went so cold from the line. And and to your point they didn't have. Counter. And when they started missing those threes and game seven last year. They didn't have a plan beat. And that I think is is is too bad for them. But I do think you can win. I mean, why not I think if you don't running up against this generational juggernaut and Golden State that they probably make the finals last year, and you know, coin toss with Cleveland. So you know, I think they can I don't think they will this year. But I don't see any reason to believe they couldn't get all the way they're not only do you have sprawl. You're also writer for European dot com, and you appear on television as well not just Jacoby. But your most recent post was about the reliance in the NBA on the three point line and the sort of geography of the three point line. And how it how it's been manipulated now. And how it started, and you suggested a lot of different ways to change three point line. Most of which are absolutely. Turns to design their own from doing ballparks are designed that doesn't make any say. Draw that moves well come on. Then however, there was one that I liked. All right. There was one that I like, and it was sort of adjusting the corner. Three walk us through. How your suggestion to just a corner? Three. You're only suggestions sort of made any logical sense in my opinion. Oh, speaking of logic to Kobe the corner. Three is not the smartest shot in basketball. It's the stupidest shot in basketball. Why do we have a twenty two foot three point shot over here? And it's four foot three point shot over there. So one idea sister. Hey, say, hey, what if we had just consistent twenty three point seven five foot arc which would be an arc. Yup. And we would get rid of the corner. Three the the most common threes in the game are still the corner threes, the easiest ones to make and every possession up and down a court has two guys or one guy just saying around Nick and dandelions, and I don't like it. I wanna see player movement. I don't wanna reward a guy for just standing out there. And it's too easy for these guys. These guys have the easiest buckets in the league. Now, I think he's standing around your defender chooses it to help on James. Talkers joe. Any bulk of PJ good, go get those get his money. He makes that corner three a lot because James draws in the defender, and he just catches the ball. And he shoots plenty of time to it's easy for PJ. It's too easy. Make him look. Whereas feed our take away some of that shooting space making move a little bit more. So yeah, I think that's one thing we can sitter the last thing I'll say a lot of people don't realize the three point line as currently drawn on the court with the corner three that was first drawn in nineteen sixty one when Roger marris was the biggest star in the same. Now. You know what I mean? Fifty years. Chances the line twenty nineteen is the same line. We needed a nineteen sixty one I think that's a fair point. But you know, if you if you eliminate the corner three, and you have it as you constructed it there's going to be so many out of bounds call. It's it's going to be so many of those. Yeah. Well, there's annoying things about it. I I would say like it's not up to me to just choose which of these ideas the league should endorse. It's up to me. I guess to throw out there. I put a little please you extend it, but you extend it. So it kind of when it gets close. It just ends the so there is no corner three L. So that's like if you go to twenty five feet, which was half the with the court. You have that sort of thing going on. I think that would be cool and like that would shorten the distance in the space for these guys to do it. But what would happen in the baseline to would anybody even go out to those corners anymore? We don't want to we don't wanna go back to a version of the sport. Everybody's jammed up in the paint Kirk. I think there's so much focus in your work on NBA basketball. But let's talk about what's really important. Yes. Yes. Pickup basket. There is so passionate about the you've written about the we see eye to eye on. And that's the way basketball is currently scored. Right. Ninety nine percent of the time and the weight pickup basketball should be scored a minister to hear Jalen thought. But please splaine. Well, you know, if you're out there playing pickup basketball, ladies and gentlemen, and you're playing ones into your terrible. What are you doing? Terrible shooters phrases shoot twos, which are twice as valuable as ones. And if you think these cartoonish margins are bad in the NBA on your pickup court. They're even worse should never shoe field goal. I should shoot three's all the time. And I'm a terrible shooter in ones in twos. But the margins are so big I'm supposed to shoot twos. All the time. Longchamps ridiculous. Jalen rose. What do you think about the adjustment of basketball? Which is currently I'd say like ninety percents games. I play are ones should be. Threes. I have no problem. Just first and foremost was in twos. Like it. Because you threes. I like ones into is. No, no big deal. Don't know. I don't wanna see a changed. Why not because I like it the way it is. My biggest problem is when you get to court where they play once in twos and you've pitched the twos and threes, and there's a wooden you talking about like an alien to score Lor. So you bet you basically just doubled at that school. Sixteen instead of seven. Thirty. Yeah. No. But you cannot destroy the basic economy basketball thank yous and threes and twos. You're messing with these marches. People like me are trying to exploit those margins. Exactly. I want you to explain some profit margins on your new book. Thank you sprawl. Tell us about it sprawl is a portrait of how the league has changed in the last twenty years we have chapters on harden and curry and LeBron in three point shooting and how power forwards and centers are having a harder time play in the play in the post game. It's just trying to capture this incredible moment in the sport. And how it's changed so fast and wears going where can people get anywhere? If you want to support a local bookseller, go do that. If you if you're lazy and you want to go to Amazon go do that Kirk. Thank you so much for coming through. We look forward to do backs out. What days it, Jalen rose? It's wednesday. What's that mean? Jalen rose. Hey. Women crush Wednesday where we celebrate the superior gender. Not just. In our lives, but all around the world, the more responsible more intelligent more more deserting, just a superior gender of our species, the ladies and the one of the ways we celebrate them is by taking only female voicemails, just like this one. Reggie what he got carry. My fiance is a loyalist near key or so we are getting married in a week and a half. And I thought it would be a boss move to call and give them a shout out and ask you to share your best marriages ice with us. So shuttle today, I can't wait to spend the rest of my life with you. Thanks, guys. Appreciate it. Best J? You bet a heard rating on it. Power move. No doubt. I've a lot of questions. I want to know details about the proceedings the ceremony where do you guys live? What are you doing? We have planned. She asked for marriage advice. I got one time ago with his wedding advice. Something's gonna go wrong. It's not whether or not something goes wrong. You said so so much time meticulously planets. It's kinda like me with this show. I spent so much time at tickets planning how it's going to go and then chilling. Rails. Not whether or not derail the show. How handle it frustrated? You know what I mean? You know what I mean about your wedding? It's like you've got so many meticulously details planned and relationships to seating charts and everything someone's going to show up. They didn't invite someone's gonna bring more people the catering's gonna do something wrong. You didn't ask for it? It's gonna go Rome. It's not whether or not something goes wrong. It's how you deal with it. And also, you have the rest of your life to spend with Jay. So you got to leave Jada in the party. You know, what I mean spent time everybody else. All in the same room. Joke. We kick it. Eighty years. But tonight, I'm hanging my boys. My colleagues your family. My family is only one night you'll have together and for the rest of your life. Here's my one piece of advice that I give people their newly married is as we stuck on being right when I had conflict with my wife, I used to be stuck on that. I used to be like, oh, you shouldn't be mad because of blah, blah, blah, or I'm right on this issue because of blah, blah, blah. Here's the thing. You don't have to be right. And also the other person's upset it doesn't matter. If they're rightfully upset just matters that they are upset in recognize their feelings. I would say don't be so judgmental and or critical and there's a fine balance to keeping your mate on their tolls and wanting them to beat the best versions of themselves, but nobody's going to ever be perf. No. And so when you continue to harp on somebody's weaknesses. They get frustrated with you. Yes. And you the people, you know, the most of the people that annoy you the most do doesn't know you strange that you bumped into subway, you doesn't know you. I knew show with five days a week. You know what I mean? So it's like you have to understand that that you only really get bothered by the people that are closest to you and the people that you love. So you have to have enough perspective and self awareness to understand that and focus on their strikes. And the reason that you love them not necessarily that. We can says I struggle with this every day, I really do with this every single day and also. Continue to keep a level of fun and friendship. Enjoy in the relationship to Nady. Yeah. Absolutely. Try to break them not knee anytime, you can don't allow things to fall into the whole home routine. Celebrate it and enjoy enjoy each other. Enjoy thank you for calling the issue a week and a half. I know you're nervous, and you're thinking about travel plans, and what you're gonna wear and this and that and the dress and whether or not uncle Steve is gonna stay in the right hotel because he didn't book or who is didn't ours. VP just you know, what's easy swept up in those things. But sometimes got looking your partners is like this is what this really about. This isn't about uncle Steve's hotel room. This is really about the two of us spending. The rest of our lives to committee each other to each other. Also don't have kids for a long time. That's my vice. Don't have kids for a long time. Put I'm not. I'm not endorsing that put that off. I'm not endorsing put that off. You know, different circles test. You can't be speaking to that. I need to have Jalen and auntie Molly give me Joey night off one night understand what it's like come over like five o'clock, and we'll come back like eleven AM the next day when I get off the role when the NBA finals hap, let's do it done. Kimmy does sometimes as she her rule is just like I never tell them to go to bed. Correct. Keep them up his late until till they basically fall asleep at account hooray. And then you have to struggle adopted. I'm never gonna do you know what we're they'll they won't hear no. Whatever you want. Yes. Yes. Yes. Can I have chocolate? Yes. Can I have cookies? Yes. I have. Yes. Movie watch whatever you want. We have it all wet. We have one female voicemail, but he got bit. Mt. From the two three formerly four one three. And I'm calling because I really need you guys to settle debate between me and my husband. Okay. So when you're getting dressed in the morning, and you put a shirt on do you put your head through the neck hole first, and then feed your arms through the armholes or do you put your arms through first? And then you're all right. We love you guys. Can't wait. Here's. M z and she sits first of all big shot to the phone one three my homeland, western Massachusetts sounds like she's from Connecticut, but the whole four one three four threes and under celebrated area 'cause show block under celebrated area code. So. When I put should on think, do you put your I think I put my arms through. I if this western on right now, I would probably put my arms through and then my neck. I haven't easy. My answer is really easy. It depends on if I got a fresh cut enough. Oh, yeah. Forgot about this. This is you got a fresh take. Yeah. I'm destroying. About. Destroying it? If I don't have a fresh cut arms. I okay, I wanna tell you something that I do that. No one else does. No one else does this and bigshots, my friend, Jimmy Horowitz, our friend who pointed this out to me. He saw me. Do it was way. This is how you put a shirt on. And he was baffled. Jalen you wear a button up everyday dress up. Forget it. You don't care about this show. You forget up also stopped me for pulling stuff over my head. So here's when I wear a button up unbutton the top three buttons. And then put over my head like a sweatshirt because I'm too lazy to unbutton the whole thing and rebutting the whole ignorant. See it's efficient if. You know, what it is? I'm gonna tell you what it is. What is it? You don't value your button, you're not spend enough money on you start spend a little more money on those buttoned up you. But all the way up and down till here. Nothing I'll spend money on that. Are you going to waste money go if it costs over ninety dollars, no way? No, no. No, no, no, no. The button up is not the star of the show. It's really not honest is not the star of the show Chris white button up forty dollars. It'd be looked exact same as two hundred dollars. I have one nice one. And it does little different still. I think I ain't got money for that. My budget. They're all right. I wanna thank 'em Z and Kelly for calling. Appreciate all your all your calls as always I wanna thank OSHA Jackson junior for coming through. I want to thank her goals bear come through. And I also want to thank our female callers. We always appreciate the ladies coming through for us on Wednesdays. Jalen rose will be on the road. We will have special guest co host tomorrow and Friday. Of course, we still have more shows that care. Guys. I load speaking office. There's talk about LeBron James Pollock Airbus my nipples seriously.

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2021-07-15- KSR - Hour 1

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2021-07-15- KSR - Hour 1

"From the bob. And tom show comedy broadway and lexington. Welcomes josh arnold. For two nights. Only june twenty fifth and twenty six in july eighth through the tenth catch. Taylor dominance a direct from her netflix's special quarter life crisis in from bt's comic view comedy central and def comedy jam. Miss arnez j. July fifteenth through the eighteenth. So thomson tickets colleague. Five nine two seven one joke or visit comedy off broadway dot com talk radio ten eighty. This is kentucky. Sports radio presented by stockton mortgage. Now here's matt jones. Welcome on in match. Jones on vacation in turks and caicos is that where is that. We'll actually i got a little birdie. Told me that matt jones whenever he goes on vacation is very secretive of its locations. So we're going to just drop different places. He may be coming back from each gotcha match. Jones's spending the weekend boston. He's saying it easy. He's in louisville but we are part of my take guest hosting were lucky enough to guess hosted the fifth straight year very excited for today show. We love the people kentucky where talk everything we're gonna have people call in we're also by the brought to you by our good friend. T j smith law office call. Tj he'll make them pay. We had him on last year. Hopefully he'll call back in. Yeah what he's doing right now. what he's up to. What kind of cases he's got he's working on. I actually have. Maybe a case he'd be interested in taking. I've got a lot of questions about litigation that tj might be able to help me make a back. I wanna know tj. I hurt my back at the beach. Can i sue god. Can i su sue the the ocean. Can i do. Give me somebody to sue because any time in america when you get hurt. It's somebody else's fault someone else's c. J. will make them pay. He'll make god pay so yeah Kentucky sports rate is brought to you by the t. J. smith law office called tj. He'll make him pay. We are part of my take. We appreciate everyone listening this every year. We do this. I know there's some people who don't like us. That's fine but i think a lot of people do. I'm actually not okay with the people that don't like if you don't like us. I want you to call in to know they reply on the tweet they say pass. Yeah they are not gonna listen. I actually have a log that i keep updated. So i appreciate everyone kind of. It's almost an attendance thing where see opt out. Yeah let's see. Oh ed rutherford ed rufford four too bad. You're not listening because we just shouted you out. He pass that's too bad. So if you follow kentucky or israel on twitter on instagram that sort of thing and you don't reply that you're not listening you're be included in the nielsen ratings. We're gonna sue. You're not listening right now. Yeah tell us we're jenkins the disparate and king hamad. That's incredible crazy. As i guarantee calls himself dip spit in kingwood absolutely lump said. oh jeez hopefully hopefully. He's listen. I think the dip spent in king is listening if we get the spin call and i will put an entire ten of skull my mouth odor. Title the dip spitting king all right. So we're very excited this. If you are a regular kentucky sports radio listener we would love to hear from you. If you're from kentucky we would love to hear from you. On the clark's pump and shop phone line. Five zero two five seven one ten eighty. I don't we do not want to hear from listeners. Of our sh- diehard lizards varsha. That have nothing to do with kentucky. Because this is supposed to be kentucky's day we play the best of on our podcast on part of my take the next day so for everyone out there. Please please honor system. We will know. The frauds clark's pump and shop phone line. Five zero two. Five seven one eighty. I'd also like to say that last year when we hosted the show we had. I think our best caller of all time. Yeah all was. Renamed gladys gladys gladys colon and admitted to shooting somebody. What in the nineteen seventies creek. But it was a hollow right. It was a creek anna hall. That's right no it was a holler howlers holler. And i think it was part of a feud so if it's in a feud it's kind of like international waters talk if it's a feud between two sets neighbors i minor standings that you're allowed to shoot somebody What we want to talk about this year so if somebody has if whoever can admit to the most serious felony that they've committed in the past on a phone call today. You will be today's grand winner. Yeah we're giving out so people who call in you. Get an option of two things. One you get either. A free papa dea or a bus ticket to tennessee. Well the second one was in the option was of us bashing coach k. For twenty seconds. So one of the other. Free padilla or bash coach k. For you so university of kentucky legend. Yeah we'll give you a code that you can go and get your free papua. I just wanted to other quick. Roll call bulls ben. He said this is the one day. I'll skip the show Hope you're not listening buddy and then chm ango much gaming many computers good time to not tune it so thank you. I appreciate that. We're keeping attendance. Let's talk a little. Nba though we had game four of the nba finals last night. I think we all will lead off with the biggest story is that coach. Cow wasn't sitting front row has losses juice. He was sitting. I don't know it seemed like you sing six throw and he was also sitting. They put an some young kid in a turtleneck. Like like some wise wise guy. I don't know is very weird. Who is sitting right. Say wiseguy young looked like us. Twenty two inch. Look like your typical brad. And he was sitting like a. Why would he sit him next to them. Brad doesn't get the he was sitting expert. Help okay got it. I haven't seen the picture. Yeah he was sitting cal his son. Brad and brad looked awesome. Swag is as every turtleneck. He's got his necklaced seats or they given to them when oppose. Okay yeah i mean listen. He probably would have gotten them on his own ad. They not been given to him anyway. I just wonder if if cow last night at any moment was like. Hey what's going on here. You're not allowed to play devon booker this many minutes like. Why is he starting. Why is he playing more. Twenty minutes because then booker was incredible. He did have like eight fouls but that's danger. If you do plan more than twenty minutes he gets into foul trouble. He's fouling everywhere. But it was an incredible night for devon booker They come up short. I think how do you think cows probably is a little more relaxed watching these finals. Because he got the monkey off his back with last year. Having his first coach player win an nba finals. That finally happened. So i think he's. He's just enjoying this. It is it's really good for him. You looks relaxed looking at coach. Jeff i honestly think he might be. He's probably thinking about retiring right now. Look face look at his face. He looked so happy. Yeah crowd that is the face of a man that knows that in about nine months. He's playing golf all day. Do you think though that he should have gotten better seats. No i don't think so. I think it should be. I think i think he's at a perfect place in his life because five years ago he demanded front row seats right. he really cared about excelling it. Everything right now. Kind of checked out a little bit. He's chilled relax. He's more of a like l. hang back. I don't have to be the number one guy i think. That's a great thing for the kids to have it teaches you you know what Being hyper competitive all the time and demanding success. That's not really what this life is about. So shot up to coach. Cal finally got a little perspective on life. St- doesn't have to absolutely murders kids. Yeah he can hang back and let somebody else win. We're just say hey. I think it'd be had more than one player out of the to rosters and yes but only having one. That's not really that's really validated of a front row. Here last year. At anthony davis tyler hero and bam the cow finals. Yeah it's just the devon booker. I think this is better for coach. Kyle though because he's got one guy that he can focus. I also think he could. I think cal can maybe take a little bit of liberties and say that you know pat. Contin was like his seventh man in like two years ago or three years ago. Obviously he wasn't but he feels like that right and and also played ten minutes off the bench for kalpa. These started four years ago was on the team for four years he could. He could rewrite history that one and also if this was like five six years ago. There's no chance that coach kyle would have andrea eight into arizona. He would've ponied up a little bit more money than shawn miller. But you know right. Now coach cal. He knows that your cheating isn't everything he could also say that If you had gone to college he would have gone kentucky That's the old lebron james. Who were lebron is almost he. He would have gone to like six different schools. He somehow has locker at ohio state and then also says that he would have loved to play for coach k. That's also also rick. Pitino sky that serve that is a strategy would say we actually are going to talk about ric patino. We love him and that was routine segment. Yeah we love him a rick. Pitino is a great coach. Top i would happen by coach in the history of louisville university. Throw it out there. I bet you my rick pitino stalkers listening to this show right now because that seems like probably something he would do so i have. Housing starts with you recently. Not within the last twelve months. Yes well yeah because during the ncaa tournament he hit up. Yes tell that little piece of asked co host. I'm watching him so for people who don't listen to our show. I have a person who has been stalking me. Light stock for the last five years. Every time i make a joke about rick pitino in a public setting they will text me and basically say i'm going to ruin your life if you keep joking about rick. Pitino part of me thinks there's like a five percent chance that just might be rick pitino texting from his computer. But it's been fun. It's been interesting to just kind of always looking over my shoulder. Knowing that someone out there is is watching my every move and now tease every move whenever we make fun of rick pitino so we don't make fun of rick pitino anymore because i value my life more than i do making jokes about fifteen seconds encounters i do not but i also do think separately that reputations a fantastic ocean at any college in america very would be lucky to have a guy like that not just for his on the court acumen but also for everything that he does. Teaching kids had roe into young men. Guess the well set. Well put so shout out get patino. Maybe get him on the pod. You know what they say like if you if you look at coach cows history you know one or two first round. Bus rick pitino. I don't think he's got any bus none. That happened early. No absolutely not. I i really do value my life so i really appreciate. You know what i'm saying is great coach at slick rick. We'll see we'll see if if rick pitino stocker. Does we have a. We're going to calls in a minute. We have billy football here. He's going to do the oral history of of the state of kentucky. Who's billy football. Football is our intern now. Fulltime member of the show. He is a former college athlete. Not not a big deal was recruited by kentucky lightly by mark stoops lightly. You can lightly be recruited by anyone. There were actually you met marks through in the van. So yeah you were lightly. Recruited by mark stoop billy had an informal visit with mark was blackout drunk. Win when mark stoops had visit with him. Billy was eighteen years old and drunken parking lot youngstown. Ohio when we were interviewing mark stoops the back of our van. He's left an impression. I don't know if it was good impression but can help a visit for recruit it. Can i back you up real quick. Just the phrase our eighteen year old intern was blackout back. Margot's we did not tell but we built not to drink he legal direct orders and that's why he probably never got that fulltime offer but it did march two. We are until bill. You can't be in the bar to be safe in the parking lot. And then we came out and he was like funneling appears with like tool. He's like yeah. He's a bunch of guys came to the van. They're like bill. You won't drink. And then i had no choice. I had to drink. You don't understand the cat. He got iced in that parking lot. And billy had to take a knee and billy was so drunk that we left. We left youngstown. I wasn't drinking was driving. So were driving on the highway in pennsylvania and are t the tires on our nineteen ninety-three van blew out going seventy miles an hour on the highway. We pulled over. We got out we looked at. Its hires billy woke up in the back seat. He's like oh we're here and the so. That was a good honestly about twenty minutes on the road and we had. It was such like a bumpy exit from the highway when our tire blew out billy for some reason thought that we were in a parking lot of a best western hotel when reality. We're getting buzzed by semi trail. Yes all right. Our we take our first break. We come back. Maybe we'll start the oral history of the state of kentucky. We'll get the phone lines filled up and then we'll start with the calls. Please don't including rick pitino on the oral history yes. please do. Not clark's pumping shop hotline five to five seven one eighty we. We will be back right after this kentucky. Sports radio part might take to talk about jones. And the crew called the clark's pup and shop online at five zero two five seven one eighty or one eight seven seven nine. Four hundred eighty or just the kentucky brandon chaos or tweet of the day by twenty matt at kyi sports radio now for more news on the kentucky sports radio on talk radio tony back part of my take takeover dougie sports radio. Matt jones is in delray beach. Florida for the next two weeks. We're filling in got a couple of guys who shot up real quick first of all james weather hole. Oh yeah he said he already turned us off your two minutes after. He said he turned us off. He said can i sue god. Nice choice matt. Hurry back so well. Let's talk around for a little bit. I also wanna shout out his bio yes. James weather hold god family concrete Bbn the country king on creek. James weather whole solomon is still be listening. I should still be this is we. Just shout out. Billy ready to go give us. Let's let's start the oral history of the state of kentucky by billy. Football once recruited loosely by mark stoops kentucky. He's basically a prodigal son of the state of kentucky was a two star recruit one for every ac that he had well kentucky fun fact isn't actually a state like massachusetts and other colonial virginia virginia commonwealth communist. Kentucky was once part of virginia because they were so far from richmond in kentucky and wanted to travel to the capital. They decided to make their own state. I actually think it was. It was a part of west. Virginia was a west west virginia. Wait so they basically were like the traffic is too bad. We don't really wanna do this. Commute exactly that's i love. I love the basis of what kentucky was built on essentially saying. I don't want to sit in my car or horse-drawn carriage for more than a half hour. Hike yeah my podcast. Don't go that joe. Rogan only has three hours of podcast. Listen to while i'm riding my horse to richmond. Let's just make our own. I think big at it could have been easily solved. Maybe if kentucky had faster horses yeah. They probably wouldn't have had to succeed. Unfortunately the horse capital of the world very local new york. Yep br. it's the horse capital the bourbon capital the barbecue capital and the grass capital. Yes lexington was at one. Time considered the athens of the west. I one time i still do. Have you ever been to lexington. It is actually a gorgeous gorgeous city. Keeneland is this is where i always find common ground with our listeners. Keeneland is my favourite race. Track to go to i. Did it is fantastic. I did the the bourbon tour of the buffalo traces cillari one time just outside of lexington. Wonderful place i tried to steal. Pappy van winkle I'm not any longer welcome back in the city of lexington or the surrounding areas. But i still love it. Yeah it's it's fantastic. Put some respect on it. It's still is considered the athens of the west. In my mind daniel boone yahoos on the forefront of paving the way for kentucky statehood and we know is that the guy with the raccoon hat. Yeah the he killed a bear rocket kentucky's not a state are going failed clearly. Daniel boone was the guidance that knife. Yes yes is daniel boone. Pickens the oklahoma state. Booster d boone. Pickens kentucky. Bluegrass is actually from spain. Oh why it's very cosmic saw the athens of the united states. It's most famous. Import is from spain. It is maybe the most cosmopolitan state in the united states. Kentucky was the largest producer of hemp in the united states in the eighteenth century ago. Very communist okay senator henry. Clay was considered the hemp. Pioneer and Is number one grassing kentucky really blue screen grasp baby soclean molly. Our kentucky was technically neutral during the civil war there. Some say it's the swiss so yeah again. kentucky is basically europe. I actually now. The civil war might be the one more that you probably didn't want to be neutral in. But i do respect anyplace it's like. Hey let's just see how this shakes out. Then we'll we'll hop on with the winters. There's an exclave of kentucky that lies between tennessee. Missouri called bubble land. So it's actually like forty miles away from kentucky between tennessee missouri. Okay how does it get in between two river. Is it just the bubbles in the river. It's literally like an exclave in seven enclave You can say that. You don't know no i liked this billy and further on the x. Clave part of it will like it's just it's totally separated from right but where where is it was like a hitachi islands between does actually is in. Who who owns it of say ten kentucky owns doug jones got it but yeah it's cool fac okay. That is a cool factor has been serious beef regarding kentucky state tree. The tool tree was the og state tree but due to a clerical error there were never officially made the state tree and then they changed it to the kentucky coffee tree. But then the tulip people got really mad and then in nineteen ninety-four it was reversed back after lots of lobby. Sounds that sounds like that was high stakes high stakes politics. You don't want to make the tool of people matt. To of people are a different breed. Tulip stands out there also. That's that's a big thing in holland. In the netherlands tulips kentucky's unlike other southern barbecue uses mutton as opposed to pork or chicken in their original dishes. What is the money is that is that like the hair on the side of your your face. Got it okay. The kentucky derby origins lie in meriwether lewis. Clark junior the grandson of william clark with the middle name of his partner louis so he went to churchill downs He went to england's apps in derby in recreated the track show what he thought was kentucky superior horses in churchill downs got it which hosted the first kentucky derby also fun fact. I don't know if you saw this yesterday. Big cat but There was a new york. Federal judge that nullified the suspension of bob baffert. I did see that said that. The new york racing association acted unconstitutionally by failing to let him adequately respond to claims made against him after kentucky derby winner medina spirit bill to post race drug test. So bob baffert. He's probably listening. Well he's going to be racing now at saratoga which is yeah but bob you listening. Kentucky's radio call in right now. Five zero two five seven one eighty. That's clark's pump and shop phone. Line patrick reed by the way is just a little golf update. Patrick reed is playing and his shirt is a little tight probably should go size up keep going we got a minute left and we're gonna take a break. Kentucky state beverage. Is milk milk milk real or how much bourbon they store largest in the world and mint juleps. They serve at the kentucky derby beverages milk. I actually think that's not a bad call if you had to do like one beverage for the rest of your life. I'd probably go water one milk's not so bad law things you know use for milk. I think you'd have to drink one beverage your entire life from rave really only has to be milk milk. Yes last one jif okay. Let me get a good one. They've all been good. They've all been great. We actually have to take a break. So bill you'll save your last one everyone We're gonna do calls after this five zero two. Five seven one ten eighty. We're gonna start with the calls right after this chugging sports radio part my take back condoning no bad young. Welcome back to kentucky. Sports radio presented by stockton mortgage. Here's matt jones all right. Welcome back talking sports radio. Pardon my take takeover match jones on vacation in malibu for the next two weeks actually heard that he's in national right now co hosting the clay travis rush limbaugh so dealer's choice on that one. We'll see we'll see how those rumors shakeout shut up bowling green kentucky by the way home and nap i think that's my favorite city in kentucky. Ranking i gotta go bowling green Also shout out our guy in the comments section On the kentucky sports radio website which still has not been updated. And i love that as probably my favorite feature of of everything that match jones been able to build with all the guys shannon andrew and everyone in ryan lemon can't forget him. He's my favorite they have. It's a time machine. You go back to two thousand four when you go on their website. Which i really do appreciate. It's kind of nice miss back when the internet was a little simpler but Running running gun. Four five four has left the same comment in three different comments. Section saying looks like an ugly contest to me talking about us and And then replies to his own comments saying that's called having a face for radio they would send a funeral procession up a dead end alley. I liked this guy. I don't know i i like. I don't understand how sending a funeral procession of a dead end out a bad thing. I think that's step one of becoming a funeral director. Yup yup so i yeah the spartan fan as well said i will be skipping tomorrow's show and then followed it up with so it's possible make a living at not being funny so they're not skipping you well yeah. This is in the comments section of the posts of the posts saying that were hosting. Yep so i just do a roll call cross the internet. I just wanna make sure that we have. Everyone accounted for. That's not listening. That probably still listening. So shout out. Those also make sure this is not exclusive to the kentucky sports radio comments section just any comments section that you're in right now let everybody know that you're not leslie. Talk sports radio. I want to see comments on the pro football talk section just saying hey just so you guys know began to your ugly and i'm not listening to the if you're on a adults sites comment real quick. All's pornhub canisters or the best. Yeah i also wanna shout. Humongous said i've lived in kentucky my whole life and milk to get his research from babies in fern. Did you get your from as you talk to ten different babies and ask them what their favorite nine out of ten babies recommend milk. That's actually fantastic. I think we have some phone calls shannon. Do we have some phone call. We have the lines loaded stewart. Let's rip through all right. Let's go to oklahoma. jared jared. What's up what's up guys. How are you doing great. What what do you call it in for today. I have a question for you guys so me and my brothers debate all the time if we could beat up somebody of every single age at what age would we get beat up so good that i could beat up every single ten and eleven year old in the world but i think i could get beat up at twelve year. Old younger brother thinks that he can get all the way up until fifteen. No chance know your thoughts on that we actually debated this on this show. Because i do agree with you. I think there's not a ten year old in the world that could beat me up. I will take any ten-year-old out once you hit eleven you start to run into some kids that are hitting puberty before everybody else. And i think there are plenty of eleven year olds out there that are bigger than me and outweigh me. So i think ten is about the code mike. My my counterpoint is always like you have to think about the outliers. Like for your brother's sake. Think about zion williamson. When he was fourteen years old he would beaten your brother up. What do you think about enter. Eleven year old. I think about like habib wrestling a bear. When he was six back. I would have beat me up. When he was nine. Like i just know he would've. We don't know what kind of bears where they could have been. Fraud bears out liars sports. That are always post. Some video of a six year old punching a heavy bag faster than i've ever seen an adult punch it that that kid. He's a six pack. What am i going to do. He's going to punch me once in the stomach and began spring for air. And then i think the rules matter to like what kind of fighter we talk about redoing. Ufc we're we doing boxing. Because boxing better bare knuckle brawl tackling. Is that legal. can i make them tap tackling. Biding yeah i would absolutely dominate the mining. Twelve year olds in the end to got to win. But i would i would. I would take out ten year old in the world. That's a promise. If you have a ten year old child out there and you want to have them come face off against a man. And i would absolutely punish them and put them into the ground. You let me know. Because i'll take on any ten year old. Hey twelve u baseball game last weekend and the kid i was behind the plate and the kid was about three inches taller me and i'd like to thank my so just kick my ass exactly. Do you want so. Thanks for calling in. Do you want a free papa dea or free coach k. Story so my friend. Kayla is a huge duke fan and i lurk giving us folk. Okay you want caleb. How bad coach k. Sex and how you talk. He's going to beat him in the first game this year. Well i don't know about all that. I just giving you a coach k. Story after leaving duke. Former in two thousand former star corey mcgee had missed accepting thousands of dollars from summer league coach marin piggy Those such payments would presumably have made mcginty ineligible the double declined strip duke of its final four appearances. That's funny because you always think oh. Cows the one who cheats. But it's really coach k. Well what you just said there. That was his assistant. Okay let's gay. Had no idea that if you're coach coach k. You don't really keep tabs on everything that goes on and that's true all right. Well thank you for the call we appreciate. And there's your free duke Coach k. story. I gotta talk to you all right. We got another one shannon. Yes let's go to piketty. What's up ritchie pike. That is my real name heikki. And y'all been talking a lot about college basketball coaches shannon's actually a big endorser of our car dealership conway heating eight ten thirty talking talking Who do you think. Would we see that again. That was an incredible incredible plug. Conway heating ford bardstown kentucky. Eight ten north third street. Nobody save like you did the first time like it's at the end of the car. Commercial out only wants a day. I get a little tired but so Who do you think would be the best used car salesman of a college basketball coach. But there's one caveat they have to wear big. Ben's walking boo boo. I think i mean the easy answer is going to be shawn miller on this one just because you can see him. Patrolling the light out there sweating through his suit. That's a man that was born to be a used car commercial. I'll go with frank. Martin i think frank martin you walk in. And he's selling you something and if you if he's not telling you something you're so intimidated by him that you will buy something just because you want to end the whole transaction on a good note. Well i went to university of tennessee. And if you're going to talk about somebody sweating through their suit. How you leave leaving. Bruce pearl conversation pearl. I feel like i feel like bruce pearl would be. He'd be tough. 'cause you get in a car on the test drive with him and he would have to like the the you'd have to get into a truck with him because a normal car would not fit his giant body. Yeah and then. He's like hey look glove compartments where you can listen to other people's conversations rat them out So you're tennessee grad. So rick barnes would would. I didn't actually. I didn't graduate but okay all right well. I appreciate that. The honesty didn't have to do that. He's rick barnes would would that be like you buy the car and then when the minute that you need to actually perform it just breaks down. Yeah yeah his. His definitely won't make it a hundred thousand miles but our baseball coach at tennessee. I think he would. He would be a mustang guy. He's going one hundred miles nine. We found him. So i like that. What about used car dealer in barstow kentucky tennessee fan. How smart is that. Oh yeah that they do you know what do you just let them like. I would imagine it's like a clown in dunk tank. You just kinda you throw a couple of jabs at them and then they eventually just donkey. Is that how it goes. Interactions that it's actually. That's almost exactly right. Except for i ride around in my orange golf cart. Let them throw water balloons at me. It's actually perfect. Because i'm sure every other person up there is a big kentucky guy. They wear their kentucky phantom on there. At least you stand out a little bit even if you're the guy that they love to boo you know. That's exactly right and all these kentucky guys you know. They're they're just age about what's the last time. They went to a final four. Oh now that's awesome. We got to look it up. And see. I don't have the stat in front of me thousand fifteen that long ago. Yappy right billy for that year. That can't be right kentucky's a great program. I'm sure they've been in the last couple of years at least have. We talked about calendar hockey yet. Because i think he's about the vote. Well i think it's just gonna retire. I think this is the twilight of his career. He's just enjoying himself right now. He wants to be able to go out and watch his kids play in the nba. Someday you'll know still has if they get kofi cockburn on on on this kentucky dow will be brad perry's named coach and waiting oak. No i would hope so. I think that coach cal should actually just name his son coach waiting. Then dare them to not hire after. Your tires changed his name legally to coach waiting. Well he should change his name to coach cal coach. Gal all right. We'll take you right now. You'll need to go. But i think he should get a tattoo given not earned like yes yes are just put a question. Mark at the end of his earned not giving. Yes yes piketty. thank you. We're going to give you a free papa d. so go to your local papa. John's and whisper in their ear. Free papa dea kentucky sports radio and they'll give it to you on someone else can use that so what else whispering. Someone's year that all right next. Call sheehan let's go to mark mark. What's up hey gentlemen how y'all doing great how are you. I'm so good. And i'm lexington resident and i wanted to know what you thought about kentucky stags handball club. This season wanted to see how they'll do in the mid west team handball. I'm a big fan. One of my boys on. The team is kentucky's tags. I was actually watching a couple of their games yesterday. It's a put up her. Shut up season for sir. You guys have all. The talent accumulates a matter of putting together on the same page. Frankly your captain has not been really shown any signs of leadership in question his ability to get over that hump. But you know what you guys have to prove it to me now. I'm sick of all the hype year after year. If the kentucky stack you watch these games you go to these games. It looks like it's just. I mean it's it's essentially just like intramural. Dodgeball is what i'm looking at. I'm looking at the website right now. I mean i watch all the games because my on. But i think there's about seven or eight you know you usually seems like might be way off but it seems like you could be on the team to if you just signed up and paid for jersey. Where do you wash them or do you have to be in person you got. You gotta go to the park down there. Usually they're not saying. Wait a minute you but we get three or four hundred stream. Oh nice so we but you could be on the team not on. Oh i told him. I the college it ain't. It ain't going nowhere. You could probably still play recreational handball in kentucky league even though you acl. Fifteen years ago. I wouldn't call recreational there at the top level of american handball. there wasn't columbus. We we just did you get it fixed. I mean i gotta fix but it was never the same. I'll i gotta play handball actually to i'll pass it out of my boys because they can follow the legacy that that i could. I mean the knock against you as you know. We've said it one hundred times about she just too injury prone to be great. Yeah i question your will if you can't overcome a little thing like a tornado. I mean you know what they say. There's there's a will there's a way and if there's a way there's where to get to the olympic but for me during the teeny teeny bit. I just think that if you're going to put it together you're goalie. Jacob roberts has to step it up this year and really solidify. So i was like right now. People are asking. Is he really the guy. I'm just confused at thanks for the call. I'm confused like that would be. That'd be me like saying like. Hey my boy i go out and check out my boy. He plays intramural softball on tuesday nights. Like i'm gonna go watch him play. I think you could play on the. I think you just have to show up in your on this. A big catholic kentucky stags their coaches from spain. They take this stuff seriously. There are my favorite part. I think about the kentucky stags is the team badge because it's got the handball it's got a deer on their kentucky stags and then it says there founding your you'll when they were founded the cat Two thousand nine hundred twenty twenty off by Show the dip spin king. He actually tweeted at me. Said thanks for the shout. I look forward to hearing. It went to get off work. So dip spitting king your legend. I don't know how you got that. I do not know how you got that handle but man your legislative spin king never listened to the show live. Because he's working yeah he remember he didn't bash. He said oh jeez. Oh yeah so so. That could be a good or bad. Oh geez we have no idea. I have so many questions for the dipped spitting king. What brand do you dip. How did you get your title ever dip too much. Is your son the prince. Yeah there's a lot of things all right. Let's take another break when we come back we'll get back to the calls Reminder if you are a listener of the show longtime listener of kentucky sports radio if you live in kentucky we love to hear from you. Otherwise sit out. It's a clark's pump and shop. Foam line five zero two five seven one. Ten eighty kentucky. Sports radio part might take takeover will be back right after this more of the chaos are blue lights across the bluegrass county by county. Virtual tour presented by the kentucky office of highway safety after this to talk to matt jones. And the crew called the clark's pump and shop phone line at five zero five seven one eighty or one eight seven seven nine. Zero four ten eighty. You're listening to kentucky sports radio on talk radio ten eighty pray and i. We're back to sports radio. Taking over part of my take match. Jones is on vacation in queens I think he actually said he's doing the five boroughs firs entire figure out which he wants to live in. It was interesting because that matt jones actually lives in new york city attorney secret and kentucky. Does it show from new york city every single day claiming that he's in kentucky city. So what are we coming. Back on the air by the way We're back on the air. Welcome back to the takeover kentucky sports radio metro zach and he's vacationing actually in kentucky. Staying there loves the dang place so much. we're very happy to be taken over from line. Four months of full right now they are. Yeah let's do it shannon. Let's go to the next one. All right let's go to james james. What's up. Hey what's going on guys during the break. I took a quick poll of everybody down here and barbara kentucky and they all like no babies adults all of them. Okay bill milk town. Yeah but revealed the town that love it needs to go on your sign you drive in welcome to the milk. Capital of the world home of milk. Yes yes i appreciate that. Thank you for doing that for us. i got one quick question for you guys as you know this week. We lost all macaroni. So i gotta do it. What's better show wings or nyc work. We actually had a big fan of boats. Hank where do you think night quarter wings watch watch wings. When is this. Is this a big. It's a big combo and barbara. Villeroy bell. yes. It's very popular in the truck. Yonis whitley county not only county. Where all about it. i'll go down wings or nightclub. You down to the dairy bar. And he talked about wings in nyc. Anki is red sox duke north carolina wings or. I gotta go night court. We gotta go. You got it streaming. It's strange this on twenty four. Oh nothing okay coach nightclub. So i if we're going to do. I think maybe we should do a moment of silence for the president of brazil bolsonaro. He's in the hospital with eleven days of hiccup moments. That's not dead yet. Silence showed maybe debt. He should probably just go upside down. Drink some water get scared. I don't know all right. We'll take you for the call the next one. Let's go to joshua joshua what's up. What's going on guys birth. Time long time. How you doing say who are out you again. Keep barking dog is no way. I don't watch his show way. What show okay. Nope nope six Don't really listen to pardon your take. I did have a couple of comments in the question. i I hawk no To enjoy last year coach k. Off retirement tour and they're back to the seller to seller for wheat. We see back to the south like. Listen i'm a do cater. And i really truly hate you. How old are you joshua hat. Billy research than that. They like started where they got has forever put really eighty. They didn't start out on top. Nineteen seventy nine. So you're saying you're saying joshua's everything. The coach case built is going to crumble in a day. And so we'll talk. Okay okay i also go watered else. Yup and Good now now saying to me. How much big cat hated on kentucky. All last year talk sired. He wasn't celebrating office and then he comes on arm and we hold on hold on. Are you the guy who treats the scene screen. Did you about every other thing. Okay okay do you do you understand. do you understand. The joke of the screen grabbed that you have. What does he screamed at. Is talking losing the georgia and the kentucky maine account just said brutal and then the final score. I was talking. We have a running joke now. No no no no no no. That's not me an okay. I we have a running joke on this show that it's always funny when you see. The team accounts have never heard of avenues. So it's deliver the bad news so that has nothing to do with kentucky all to do with the fact i best one yet because it just as brutal period. So you're talking fan no because you don't understand this guy never listened to show. He's just a huge fan never tweets me exactly the halls. Him hawk dots. You you understand that you think you think that i was making fun of kentucky when i was more saying like. Here's one of the best weird about you didn't tweet when duke went out me and he made fun of yes i do without. This actually is great. This is the mind of a die. Hard fan dude. When when duke went out. I reach tweeted every single. Tweet from the duke timeline. Being like you know staying in their season trying real hard. I tweeted about duke more than any team in the world. But this is actually a great joshua because when we talk about hard fans like you actually don't see me talk about anyone but kentucky greg. That's crazy all are upset. That's that's all right. I'm really just told me. I love guy show guys around here bad ass at the commissary got man rocking all right. I love it. I love the anatomy of like a die. Hard fan actually sees they have like blinders on To quote you. I don't know if our listeners know. Appoint a horse. Yeah but the blinders are on where every other tweet about. Every other team doesn't count. It's just the one time of year. You tweet about their my favorite tweet together. I'm sick of y'alls bias. Yeah exact classic media bias anti kentucky all right. we're taking our first break our one in the books. We're gonna do some more phone calls when we come back kentucky. Sports radio might say we'll from the chinese menu.

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"It's time to get up with bad blood. It takes blood, sweat and tears title. Whatever the blazers or nuggets show may have enough to challenge the warriors. Plus, speaking of blood the latest chains hardens I injury does Houston standard chains without the beard at one hundred percent before the twenty nine thousand nine season. Even begins should already be planning to tank for two. We've got to wait too early mock draft as we get up with you starting right now from our studios in New York. Thank you for starting this Thursday with us on get up. Farnum is here Laura is back low. Everyone's gun is ready to go. Dominique here we begin with doing and a half hours of our lives that we will never get back Linden. Denver last night game of the night and exaggeration. Here we go Nicola Yokich and the nuggets taking on Damian Lillard and the trailblazers pick it up in the second quarter, Rodney hood shooting a free throw and watch. What happens to Tori creek takes inadvertent? Elbow to the face in Downey goes. Accidental contact has been big the last two nights in the hardens is or a rearrangement of the knows. We see we've got some mess on the floor. And it's it's a nasal contusion is that it's exactly what that looked like third quarter at this past by MacAulay Yokich, take a look at that make them. This is incredible really is. It's one of the most creative fasters we've seen in the league in a long time that standing ovation is for Craig who comes back in wearing the mask on his face grab giving understanding. Oh, and he would not down the three as in trying to rally his team from wave behind you. See the score their way down put over two minutes ago who had led big believe. Now only seven Daimler didn't have a big night. But he does find Rodney hood in the corner for three Portland up ten under a minute ago. The lead is six it's Lillard again, taking it to the whole you tell me this is a foul. They call it on elite veasley in Beazley's building. It can't believe sands Lillard to the line. He missed the first he makes. The second you're gonna see on the replay here because you're going to see up one player fly into another. It's actually yoga shoving Kanter directly into the shooter all lines being very tough night for Craig who really bears the brunt of this the two hands shove. And here's the funny thing the nuggets get all upset about it. And you look you'll get back your screen to the left behind Murray here doing absolutely nothing. Trailblazers wind up a winner. Tough night. Denver. I think Torrey Craig is the unsung hero of the game. That guy's got some. He's got toughness. Hey, I'll go to war that kid any day. He leaves it all on the floor every night, and we can't pick our spots when we do that. You know, we can't pick to play like that for just a half and game two of the second route. That's gotta be for forty eight minutes. Now is the most disappointing thing about tonight. We brought in the second half. And the I was not there. And I didn't have enough in the second to get all the way back Denver assertive. He mentioned in the second half of too little too late. Their average field goal attempt was eight point two feet from the basket after the break in the first half. It was over fifteen feet away. So those are the obviously the worst shots in basketball. So let's take this to the table and stay in candidly. We tried everything we could in the meeting this morning to find something interesting about this game. It was just an ugly night really was for for Denver. I mean, they get twenty three offense of rebounds, fourteen of them in the fourth quarter and couldn't convert them we saw him working hard. And they just couldn't get anything done. But for Portland to overcome Damian Lillard having a bad night in to overcome Twenty-three, offensive rebounds and get a win on the road in the playoffs. It might have been ugly. But it's pretty to them one of these teams presumably will advance to the Western Conference finals, which means somebody's gonna have to take on the warriors. Is there any way that it's competitive against the way, they looked? No, no. I mean, look at look I love Lillard. Love CJ McCollum there. Ten of they're very this is our yearly reminders to say during the places are yearly reminder of just how talented they are. I think Kanter has been the biggest key for Portland during this run because. You lose nurtured. And then you bring in cancer and cancer the first possession. They dump it right down to low on the block. They start by initiating their offense down low. But the best thing I can say about the game. Last night was the pizza was really good. I had a really good last night. There was a bad night. All the way around Yokich is a great player. They didn't play. Well, lewd is a great player. He didn't play. Well, and all ends up with these teams being tied at one game apiece. Quick thought. Well, look, I mean, you gotta get Portland's bench credit though to Rodney hood big night last night in Zach Collins plan instead of Meyers Leonard plays really, well, Portland. Sean just saying with cantor has gotten into vantage in well, not an advantage over Yokich, but they've been able to minimize the difference between those guys what is Charles Barkley right here on this show said he'd likes Portland to win the Western Conference. King. But to win the west idle by either Charles Barkley, meantime as far as that other series is concerned Golden State Houston where the rockets are in desperation time headed home meeting a win desperately on Saturday night. They got some good news yesterday. They announced they expect a vision of reining MVP James harden to be fully clear by game three. He suffered a laceration inside his eyelid. Draymond green. Accidentally raped him across the face during chase for a loose ball and just want to put some numbers up here. Because I don't think that most people would have thought this to be the case, you think Kevin Durant has been officiant. So far James harden is not through two games. Stan Van Gundy both players scored the same number of points on the same number of shots. Did that statistic jump out at you? Did you know? And I think what happens is we see hard missing shots, but he's shooting more threes than Durant. We've talked about Durant shooting the mid range. And so the fact that and shooting threes makes up for it and officiency has. Been just as it was a sneaky, hembo, at our at our morning meeting when those numbers about, but I take it the thing about it is it's not just how shots are being taking the amount of dribbles that it takes for hardened to get to those shots versus Kevin Durant. Durant doesn't use a lot of dribble rip through jabs. He steps back to you. Don't look at the shot necessarily in the same way that we do in James hardware. He's out there. Dribbling everybody standing in his stagnant at the offense of into the floor. Like we saw game two for the rockets. Houston Rockets basketball so way, they played all year. And this happens in the playoffs all the time. Now when it doesn't go. Well, people want to criticize the way they played all year. We were celebrating James harden in Houston Rockets. This is how they play basketball. So look if harden really is helping ease able to do this is this the rockets last best chance, I don't think. So I think if you look to the future the chances are they come back with pretty much their core intact. It's Golden State. That's probably more without down to their last best chance. To get this three Pete in the whole thing because team could break up this summer. Here's the thing about the warriors because people will say to themselves. They've got such a great situation. You see James harden into your point he has to work so hard to get almost anything done. People will look at the words and say, it's the ideal situation for all of these guys. Why would they break it up and the answer to that to me is why did the Beatles break up? Why did the bulls in the nineties break-up? Why did check in Kobe break-up because at some point when you put all these people together each of whom deserves to be the best one in anything. They are doing the it just has shelf-life and you brought it up yesterday when we talked about Kyrie Kevin Durant playing together. Look, I mean, people will only sacrifice their egos for so long. Think about this from Kevin Durant's perspective. Right. We have talked a lot of Kevin Durant is the most unstoppable guy in basketball. But when the MVP discussion comes up for this year, it is all James harden or Jaanus his name never comes up because he surrounded by such great talent. So I think there is a little bit probably in Kevin Durant. Saying let me go somewhere else in proved the people what I can do leading the team with that. Same thing. You talk about your ego. Right legacy can can sometimes Trump to here now. And when you talk about legacy in the NBA, we talk about rings that we talked about championships while the conversation might be about James harden now if Durant state in Golden State, and if you know Steph and Klay stay as well. And they could run off, you know, four more championships, and all of a sudden Kevin Durant ends up with seven or eight rings when his career is over, regardless of how many MVP's we all know how talented is we see how so many individual awards. No. But team awards would then surpass some of those individual talents because the day we might not be talking about James harden, if he wins seven NBA title, but it will always be one behind Steph curry that's legacy will still people will always talk about it. They won before he got there. Now that's not fair. I don't think it detracts from Kevin Durant at all. But he hears that talk, okay and wants to combat that. And he's the guy he can't surpass if he stays there is Steph curry, and I think it's also worth pointing out in this conversation. I think the championship. Lebron one in Cleveland is worth more than both the championships that he won in Miami for that reason as far as because in Miami, Dwayne Wade had one one before he got there in he had one one as the dominant player maybe the best final series we've ever seen. Okay. Dwayne Wade in two thousand and six and so the brand move into Cleveland. I totally agree with you in winning it. They're all right. Speaking of huge, impending offseason moves potentially Kevin Durant role there in feels like most of the talk this year is focused on the Lakers and the Knicks, but Brooklyn net Jared Dudley thinks there's another team Katie will consider told Mark Stein. I would be shot if the nets don't get a sitdown. So what do we think is a better situation than the Knicks? I don't know look anywhere. He could go they're going to win. And so you're going to be relevant on a national level for the people here in New York. I don't care what the nets do that. How many championships would they have to win to surpass the Knicks in New York? This is a new Knicks town, I think born and raised in this city, in my opinion, most people's answer to that question. It could never happen. No matter what the here's the one caveat. I would throw into this when they played in New Jersey. I think that remained true they made the finals back to back seasons in New Jersey, and candidly, it fairly made a ripple in the city moving to Brooklyn. I think there could potentially be a little bit of a cash aid to that that if it really became these star Laden team and they were making deep runs into the playoffs. And they had the kinds of superstars maybe even more than K D. I can't believe I'm going to say this. But a guy like Zion Williamson if they somehow got him and again, they're not in that sweepstakes. That's not on the list of options, but a dynamic star who was sort of their own. I could see that becoming. I could see them potentially challenging. A little bit for local interest. The clippers are the place that I actually make more sense. I think the clippers on the biggest player here. And I think when you look at how St. bomber has orchestrated in change the perception of this organization, you've got the right coach you've got the right front office now. And now you have this caps based on a team that already has had success and has already gotten to the postseason you add in to met if they get coup. Why and Katy the clippers still LA from the Lakers. I mean, we talk about the nets, Nick. No the same thing. They don't steal. Still the here and now of the Lakers or maybe. But not in the frustration. No matter what happens the clippers cannot take over that town. I don't think so it's a Laker town. There's too much history there. How many you're going to have to win to surpass what the Lakers of I'm telling you right now living in Los Angeles. The frustration is at a boiling point with the Lakers organization. There is a there is such a look at dysfunction at the way that this organization has been structured in particular this last six years now of not making the playoffs and the window opportunity clippers to get their own building, which I know is very important to them. They want to get outside the Staples Center you have two stars. That can go build you a new building and have success you start creating to a younger fan base in Los Angeles. That don't remember the Showtime days. The only thing is I would say to sort of put a ribbon on this conversation. Into rain. You're contemplating your future. It's already risky enough to leave Golden State and leave behind what you have in such a good circumstance. Do you? Then. Take on the added risk of exactly what we're talking about. What can I actually make the nets relevant? Ken. I make the clippers the first team in that town if he and were to go there together or something like that almost every conversation. We had at the beginning of the season connected Kawai to the clippers that might be another added level of risk that he just doesn't have any reason to take. But then again, there's a little less pressure. It hasn't been done in those places. And so it would be celebrated more if you go and do it with the Lakers. It's been done before. What are you Kobe or Shaq surpass them the next with the clippers? You would be a hero. It'd be like LeBron and Cleveland to your point. Right. I mean that if you wanna title with the nets even throw the Nixon there now because of just how much they've struggled, and then the clippers if you wanna title three of those they have to be looked at the same likeness of LeBron going to Cleveland, and winning and Cleveland, the Nixon not wanna championship in forty six years guys. I I do think that that's a legacy that is not the hard to take this here for the moment. We got a million things to get to the bass. But I want to get us to the NFL because it's time for daily conversation about Daniel Jones contractually obligated to talk about this giants general manager Dave Gettleman continues to stand by his claim that to other teams interested in taking Jones. If the giants have not grabbed him at number six now gang Jones college coach Daniel, David cut cliff tells Sirius XM NFL radio he agrees Jones dot in there at seventeen. I know things that I can't reveal that he would have gone well before that never people that quietly had their heart set on. Okay. So there's been speculation that Washington could have been one of those other teams interested in Jones, we know the skins quarterback Dwayne Haskins with fifteen pick Washington. President Bruce Allen spoke with NFL network on Tuesday. And was asked about the notion that Gettleman new Washington's draft board. Here's what he said. I'm almost positive. Dave has no clue with our draft. Board would be I don't know which draft boards. He knows. But he doesn't know ours. Wow. Dominate joins us all I can say to that is. Well, I mean, I would've thought that was some code amongst these guys he could have said anything there and he chose to just throw Dave Gettleman under the bus. Dave got him in was reaching in reaching for a lifeline and Alan pulled it right out. Because he I think what's happening now is the public perception is STAN David gentleman is guy who we think is not very smart or not very good at his job. And he's pointing around the rest of the league and the other people think like this. So I'm not dumb and everyone else in the league. Like, no, you're dumb. I'm not coming down there with you. And it's it's sad. Because they keep trying to fight this up hill battle when they need to stop. The giants bed is not trying to fight this battle. Go ahead and accept that people disagree with you. I got this guy because I think he is the best trying to argue that someone else is gonna take them doesn't do anything, but undercut the guy himself. I mean, obviously, get them is going to continue to be asked about this to me every time he comments saying, well, other people would have taken me wouldn't have been on the board at seventeen it, actually. Hurting Daniel Jones to your point just come out and say, this is our guy we liked him for these reasons. And that's that. And we'll see the play on the field. I mean, it seems simple, and it seems obvious. But it seems like they're struggling to do. So and they can't they brought in. Cut cliff also as part of this process. No one knows the right thing to do in his, and I don't understand how you can lead an organization whether it's a professional company or it's a football team. And not understand simple PR is like this is not going to help you this point. Is you all self inflicted wounds? Sports fans and New York sports fans have been known to yell and scream and then change their minds like that. Remember, the kid who was crying when the judge the Knicks drafted Kristaps flu that same kid was crying when they traded him away. A couple of years later, if Daniel Jones turns out to be good, none of this makes any difference. They need to stop defending this. But I think it is interesting Bruce L and could easily have said, well, listen, I'm not going to talk about what my draft board looked like. But Dave, obviously knows what he's doing down there. He got himself a fine player. He could have done that. He do that. He chose not to he didn't do it. Because what I said earlier he thinks he's trying not to get grouped in with this David Guetta one thing. And I think that maybe they should hire you to do. They're going forward. Because the easiest thing to say is the point to that that Kristaps thing that's all say. No, you guys you can ESPN under the bus like they think, they know everything you think, you know, everything I'm a coach. I know what happens. You guys may think I'm wrong. But wait until a couple years. Let's bring a general manager into this conversation. Our front office inside as Mike Tannenbaum, and he joins us here. Because I want to bring you on this as a GM, Mike how aware realistically our teams about other teams draft boards when it comes time to make critical decisions agreeing look around the draft time, you try to collect as much information as possible, and you may get a sense of where certain players are going to go. But it's almost impossible to know. Exactly. Where a player will be. I think what Dave Gilman's try and say, hey, we have conviction about this guy. We don't know he would have been there at seventeen but the truly don't know exactly where he was positioned on the boards. And look you were general manager in this town in New York. And what I remember about you is that you said very little there's a great line in Hamilton where you says talk, less smile more. And at some point that's probably pretty good advice, especially when you are leading. An organization in this city. Well, I think there's a time and place where everything and you'll have to know your audience and some of Dave Gilman's comments. I think in the off season about the culture change and things like that, you know, around the Dell Beckham trade, I think his audience there was his locker room and his organization after the draft is time where you want to be talking to your fan base gain them excited. So I think there's a time and place for everything obviously, New York's when you have a privilege of these jobs. It's a tough market. But Dave smart cable guy who's done this job for a long time. And obviously, they believe in Daniel Jones, I agree with what you guys were discussing which is like let him go play. I think it's important that he goes out and plays. Well in the preseason if he does that earned the trust and confidence of his teammates. And then now set the foundation to go from there. So I actually think you'll people say we'll pre-seasons meaningless. I think in this case fifteen Jones plays. Well in the preseason. That'll start change the narrative, I saw the notes that you sent over as our staff was communicating with you. And I it is interesting because the giants have and Daniel Jones through no fault of his own is not only. Going to be compared to Wayne Haskins whom he was drafted ahead of. But he's going to be compared on some level to the other quarterback who occupies same stadium. Yeah. Greeting no doubt the threads of this decision. Started a year ago when they decided to take saquon Barkley over Sam darnold, and if I'm a giant fan, one of the things you want to be looking at are we better off which Sam darnold, and let's say Josh Allen the dynamic pass from Kentucky. Ironically from Montclair, New Jersey or are we better off with saquon Barkley, and let's say Daniel Jones, and I think overtime to see that play out. Do we want darnold and Josh Allen? Or do you want saquon Barkley Daniel Jones and look both young quarterbacks playing the same city same stadium. You'll see how it plays out. But that was to me the decision they made about taking down Jones at six this year. Really started last year when he decided to take Barclay not Mike. Well, Don, thank you so much. It's always good to see you. And just would put a ribbon on this conversation. You cover the collar. I feel a little bad for Daniel Jones. He's the one guy didn't do anything wrong sent draft. And he continue. He's continues to have to defend himself, which is not fair to him. It looked. They should have just said this is our guy, and we believe in. Empathetic guy understand I feel a little bad for him. But he's an NFL quarterback in the biggest city in America. This is the hardest thing he has to deal with he's going to be. I won't be the hardest thing. That's coming up. We'll take a break. We got plenty still to come here on get up, including standing Gundy, picking his top five playoff performers who is in. And who does it make the cut there is at least one name that? I think will surprise you. Plus sneaky, big news in college football that could impact how we crown a national champion, and candidly, it's ridiculous details on the way get up on ESPN. Get up his brought to you by Applebee's bigger bolder grille combos, and by corona extra find your beach and hundred. Half hour headed your way here on ESPN coming up in five minutes. Kevin Durant has he been the best player in these playoffs? Dan, Van Gundy countdown to five best, and there's some names missing. That may surprise you. There are new overtime rules in college football that make absolutely no sense. And I will explain why. And then the shoe about to fall on Shawn Miller in Arizona, and maybe other places all that more as we continue get ESPN. We are back on get up the floor one game in the NBA playoffs last night blazers even up their series with the nuggets and a game. It was not an artistic masterpiece, Sean, what was your primary takeaway primary. Takeaway from this game was Portland did what they had to do. They got the split in Denver by other. Takeaway was this Denver couldn't hit a shot. And a lot of these looks were wide open. Uncontested looks say we're just not officiant at all offensive -ly came out much stronger in the second half. When they got the ball down low. That's what they're going to have to do in game for Charles Barkley's, blazers get the split. They wanted the road next up on the floor warriors twos on the rockets stain Van Gundy game three Saturday night. Do you think the rockets win this one at home and make it a series? I do think we'll get a little bit of a bounce back from James harden. He's healthy. But I think digger they've got to rebound the ball and take care of the ball. They can't have that fourteen shot discrepancy that they hadn't get into the news. This morning is that they expect his vision to be fine hardens vision to be fine. I forgot rating across the is obviously they need him and his bed. Sean game three raptors Sixers. Tonight, Kawai Leonard has four thirty point games. This postseason does he carry them into a win tonight? There's no question in my mind that it's going to get a Winston against the seventy Sixers. I think he's going to get better health from his supporting cast. You didn't have a lot of that last time out, but he has been fantastic both ends and then buck Celtics game three of that series is tomorrow who has the edge, STAN Van Gundy and who wins the series. I think the bucks win the series. But I think Boston win tomorrow night. I think they'll get back to the way they were in game one and keep you on us from getting into the paint. But in the end, you you like Milwaukee in this series. I do I think it's I thought from the beginning was going to be a seven game series. And I always liked the home team in games like my walk in this. You've been writing Toronto back sort of bandwagon throughout this postseason. You like Milwaukee to beat there's something that they're going to be the seventy Sixers tonight. But yeah, no, I do do Milwaukee to beat the Celtics in this state what a year ago at this time all the attention in the east was on Philly and Boston this final winds up being Milwaukee and Toronto I think they'll be some really disappointed. Fans in those two big cities. Okay. It is time now for staying van Gundy's first foray into a getup staple. It's a fundamentalist. He would I know all your friends at the lebatardshow love these. So they're going to be watching very very closely. These are going to be the top five playoff performers so far stand. It's all yours. The one I really struggled with is number five. I'm gonna go with Jaanus. Okay. But I struggled leaving kyri Al Horford, Draymond green and Marcus saw off the list. So this one was tough the first four it was only for the order. But this one was tough. But I'll take you on and Janas generally leading his team. He has not been quite as good in this playoff as he was in the regular season. Correct. He has not been the attention. You have to pay to him to limit him opens up so much for the other guys. These all the first four were comparatively easy. Who's for Yokich? I think you'll kitchens been incredible. Both the scoring in his passing. He's the hub that you know, makes that t go. He's been fantastic doing everything inside outside. He gets comparatively little attention for how good he is the best big in the NBA. Well, I think you know, there's a couple of guys you could put alongside of him. But the fact that he plays a lot more games than say Joel MB, and he's got the most well rounded, he goes out there shoots threes. Nutmeg Paul Millsap last night. I mean, okay. Very good number three. Who do you have number three? I've got Damian Lillard struggled a little bit last night. Okay. But he's been fantastic. And what he did in that Oklahoma City series alone has to put him near the top. If a player opened a serious, we know that last shot from almost half court that wind up winning. But as Jalen pointed out, the very first shot of that series with Damian Lillard taking three from almost midcourt. If you're the coach do you like that probably not until? We do. Yes. Dave good starting Jalen said, that's the kind of shot that gets taken out of the game in the first ten seconds. No, no, no. Because again wallets in the air. You might be looking down the. Then it goes through. That's my guy, right? Who's never to number two is Leonard. I mean, he has been both dominant inconsistent. And he's been great at both ends of more for this Toronto. Is he you think about a Toronto team that made a huge risky move in the off season trade away rose been their best play for such a long time. And that backward was so close, and they never got a chance to try and go through this east without LeBron. The mood kind of pays off. Do you feel like Hawaii is the kind of player who can carry them all the way, we're going to see look this isn't really interesting series? Because both of those teams went all in on this. And we're gonna see how it ends up at the end of this. And finally number one. I think that's easy. Kevin durant? I mean, he's been phenomenal since the game to where he whatever reason refused. The shoot the ball. He's the only guy who's been able to limit Kevin Durant since then he's been unstoppable to the point that the other night, he only gets twenty nine points. And we're like. We think that sort of blase performing. All right. I look over at Sean liberty to kill me Yokich, Lillard, Leonard and Kevin Durant. What say you, I I'm just going to do this. Because those yesterday you said we give no love to the big, right? Let me see your list. Okay. Okay. Hold on. Hold on. Why is he four leads the postseason in rebounds assists, Asia looting fifty percent from the field? He is the heart and soul and everything that Denver is he should be here. Now, you have Dame Lillard and you're saying his numbers are fantastic. Right. Fantastic whose averaging more rebounds per game than Lillard shooting. The same percentages from the field as Dame Lillard Steph. Curry is Steph curry is it even on your list, and that is a tough one step Durant's been so dominate. But that's because their team is so dumb, and you're absolutely right. We tend to I will admit to this. You tend to take those guys for granted you could put you could put Draymond green on that list. The thing that's really left out. Here is the guys who've made a defensive impact Marcus all against to starts. So K Al Horford against Janas Wisey here because he hit he did hit the shot. He's had that moment. I think in the postseason hasn't had that moment. Not just a moment. I mean, it was really big game against an opponent who had sort of called him out all the time. And he put that away. I think these leadership with his teammates, you listen to what people say and Pimm now. James harden, although we start the show today, and he's a fishing bad. But as a fish insane the first two games of the series. He's taking the same amount of shots and scored the same amount of points. But the problem I have with James harden was his Utah series. I mean, he just wasn't great in a couple of games in that series that they had to win it with. Make him part of this list. I agree. Well, and you know, so we're only comparing the two games with the in Durant. But I think also Durant defense team on above Jane. I just don't think James Hardie. He's not even a guy really considered on my list to be quite honest. I know he's one of the list. It's a great live. As a member of do you think it's I think I take those five guys in win. I've got my my one I don't know who go to in three. I got my four and my five good. And this is. Game three raptors sixes tonight. Eight eastern on ESPN ESPN two ESPN app with that serve. His time to game peace NBA, canton, gets started tonight at seven o'clock eastern on the way, we've got sneaky big news in college football that could easily wind up the siding how we crown national championship. And it's absolutely makes no sense. The explanation. Yeah. We're back on get up in time for some sneaky. Big news bad news for the Indians. Corey kluber suffered a broken right forearm. Your Greenies reaction didn't feel good. That was a hundred two mile per hour line drive as arm was placed in a cast. He will be reevaluated today. The Indian's said the fracture is non-displaced meeting. The bone was still properly aligned he hasn't been quite kluber yet this season. But that doesn't help how about this miss this the NFL draft coverage lessees last week, but the NCAA football rules committee decided to revamp its overtime rules for this season and effort to shorten games. Here's a look at the new rule if they game reaches a fifth overtime teams run alternating two point plays. Instead of starting another drive at the opponent's twenty five yard line. There'll be a two minute rest period after the second and fourth overtimes and the rules for the first four overtimes remain unchanged. Mike Greenberg is very upset about this. Let him have the floor. And then I'm gonna tell you why you're wrong to be upset. Listen, college football overtime is already contrived nonsense. Okay. That's like that's like settling the masters, if they're even after eighteen holes by going to a miniature golf course and playing putt putt. And now they're going to put the ball on the two yard line. And this is how they're going to decide what potentially an important game. But yourself in a circumstance, let's live in a world where Alabama Auburn at the end of the college football season right up. Your alley over here. Rutledge to decide the SEC. What are they east of the west the west and to decide that and it is extraordinarily important. They had tie games in college football for a hundred years and to the best of my knowledge. I've done the research no-one died from that everyone survived that notion that a game could end in a time college football now, they're so worried about it. They're going to put the ball on the two yard line. And just say, let's decide the outcome of this one. And have that carry all the weight in the world the difference between a win? Loss or a tie by putting the ball on the two. I've better idea. What would you to the mascots arm wrestle? That's as a more reasonable way of breaking time after four ridiculous overtimes in the first place, Laura they've got hit I'm here for the mascots arm wrestling. But one thing that you missed here is the fact that this doesn't happen in less. The game gets to five overtime. Let me give you some facts here in the last five season four thousand three hundred twenty six FBI games. Only four have reached a fifth overtime. You're all upset about something. That's never gonna happen. This was put into place because of the LSU an Devin overtime game from last season. Which by the way, was the first time ever that two ranked opponents even played in a game that went over five overtimes this never happened in. When it does happen. It doesn't matter. They have to do this to make sure that player safety is paramount. They don't want these players who are not being compensated, by the way to end up having a play extra snaps that really are non important this. Luster tip of the larger issue, which is that this entire system is stupidity. I've got a better idea if the game is tied at the end of regulation play a little more football like do in the national football, play five minutes or ten minutes. And then if it's still tied let the gave end in a time. Yeah. I don't understand so player safety is not their number one concern, they might be rolling out there. But overtime. Ended the regulation in heaven time like having the players play even more three football. I think is is part of the problem. The problem is you have tied teams. And makes it more difficult to figure out the playoffs. So what we love difficult to figure out playoffs. That is fun. Let the game in when the game ends. If you can't finish it in regulation. Going home study for their chemistry exam. You have to you have to give the college football playoff committee. Actual records that do not have Taiwan. Why? Games into times. I get it. They're not actually having a compare metrics for who their top four teams are going to be you're in college football. You are comparing which the playoff era is fabulous because of this. But you sitting there Ed people in committee room trying to make a case for teams. And if you're looking at two teams at happen to be apples to apples, but one team had a game. It ended in a tie and the other didn't that's not gonna work. They're not gonna be able to with that. And bowl a tie is a reasonable outcome of a sporting event ended with a win allies Thai Thai Thai is no one likes ties, but it is better than this in my opinion. I would rather be able to judge a team based upon the game it actually played then put in some arbitrary put the ball on the two yard line. And let's make a really important decision based on the outcome of that one. If it's a tie, you can say the teams are equal or you can give a little edge to the waiting go. We decided that nobody at this set actually likes ties because neither one of you is wearing what can I? Sportscenter programme one more very quickly. One more thing. This game called soccer, right? They played. And all these other countries seems to be reasonably popular. To me that people at old every other country on planet earth seem to like that game ties shoes part of that sport. It doesn't seem to have destroyed them in many leagues. Also, don't even have a playoff blow. It also listen, no more ties on this show. And I hope neither one of you ever wears again. Sportscenter six eastern front Philadelphia with sage in Kevin they'll look at would flares under more pressure tonight in game three white or Joel Embiid plus loge with the latest on the Lakers for head coach and Kintu tongue of Loic improve his draft stock this fall, we've got more on him and our show as well after PTI on ESPN and ESPN. Now, let's get to the next piece of nonsense yesterday. Federal prosecutors played a recording of a phone call in which former Arizona basketball assistant Emanuel, book Richardson, told Spiring agent Christian doctrines that the head coach at Arizona. Shawn Miller was paying star centered the Andre eight and ten thousand dollars a month while he was enrolled in school when that news broke our own Jalen rose heard about it. And he had some choice thoughts on this development during his show. Jalen and Jacoby. That's all that's kind of what I feel like that's it only ten thousand the last time. I checked these coaches give multi millions of dollars from the school, shoe contracts. Appearances television radio got molting streams of revenue, and I'm not here to advocate breaking the rules. Put what I will say is. I appreciate the tone of the public in the media has changed about this topic since I was in college the world is in an uproar like they would be back in the day. I think that part of it at minimum we can all agree with and we wanted to bring everyone in on this conversation. Who was it? That said in the meeting today that perhaps this whole thing backfired that there was a belief that when the three I came out with this information was you who said that go ahead and explain that to the I think that was the most interesting point, I've heard made on I think what this came out the FBI was insufficient was everybody in the public was go. Oh. Doing what? And like now we've gotten to the point this came out yesterday, you know, hits Twitter and people are reacting to it. But they're like, yeah. Ok he should have been made more. What's what's next like this? This isn't having the splash impact that I think a lot of people in -ticipant that's going to have now there. That's from a public perception standpoint, it is not from a coaching perspective for Shawn Miller at Arizona. And or what the NCWA is going to feel about this zone on wants to keep Shawn Miller around though in greenie your point about who the actual victim is here because I think there's still a lot of people who are confused by this, but Jay Bilas explained it well to you. Well, that's the thing. When this whole thing's first came out when we first found out the FBI, pardon me gotten involved in this I call it Jay Bilas who was also a lawyer. And I said Jay in order for the FBI to get involved. There has to be a crime in order for that. It'd be a crime there needs to be a victim. Who exactly is the victim? It turns out the victims are the schools themselves. They are potentially being defrauded in they're being put it some sort of risk for. Losing money, and or other things by the fraud that is taking place and as a consequence the schools themselves are the victims in all of this. I've seen anyone running around saying. Oh, whoa. Is the university of Arizona because Andre eight was getting paid ten thousand dollars a month that Shawn Miller was getting from his shoe company. Sean, I mean staying you've been in the pro game, basically your whole life. But what is your position on? All the listen. I mean, you can't sell that first of all to the public. I mean, they're not stupid. Okay. So they're not buying that. Look what we've had is a lot of people saying what other people said with no proof. I mean, there was a report that we had a recording of Shawn Miller saying things that was over a year ago where the hell is that recording? Look, I'll be on shuns good friend of mine we worked together. I think he's a great coach and a great person in look if you're going to try to bring a guy down I want more definitive proof than a guy who we'd have no idea book, book Richardson could be. Disallusioned the guy we have no idea what his motives are. I wanna see something more definitive coach. If it assistant coach goes to the NCWA and said was for on that FBI wiretap, they're launching full-fledged investigation immediately. I mean that that's that's the perspective. They're gonna look at that. And go wait hold on. We've got a coach that his violating NCWA rules. Now, we can talk about the rules of the systematic change that needs to occur. That's a different topic of discussion versus right now. Is this NC double a violation in his Shawn? Miller going to be the head coach of Arizona. I agree with everything you said about John. I love Sean. I think is a great coach. But in the end of lay rules, you have an assistant coach is on wiretaps saying, oh, yeah. Man. My my head coaches paying ten thousand dollars a month for a player that is problematic player one being the number one pick in the draft. The rule is is unjust. So I'm not gonna fault anyone if they break it. But my question is what happened in March the wiretap not go through because they lost the buffalo. I mean, not the why the wire not go through them enough. You need fifteen thousand get past buffalo Buffalo's really good. Jim, that's Burke, number one player in the draft. But here's here's the here's the thing. Okay. We're working on rules in the NCWA that we're established in the seventies. Okay. When the television revenue the money stream wasn't even close to what it is. Now coaches work getting paid what they're getting paid. Now, the departments weren't making the tens of millions of dollars that they're making. It's time that we update the system the system needs to be updated. Okay. So along those lines college football still hasn't mandatory three year the players have to wait to turn pro. Yeah. I mean, I think that's that's awful. We can look at a guy like to in Lawrence. Winston there. Lots of guys lots of receivers. Maybe it's true of some positions. They cannot make that leap but players are getting better. I was a senior at Maryland. When Calvin Johnson went to Georgia Tech, and it did not take me long about the first quarter. This do should be an NFL. I shouldn't have to deal with him here. This is a problem that's gone on for a while. And I know it's it's been challenged before. But it should be changed. I think that the player assoc-. Nation in the NBA or in the NFL should get to the point where they removed that three year limitation on college player. I love that we've found Calvin Johnson video from his freshman year of college and that I don't see Dominic Foxworth anywhere. Pick put Calvin taking one off my back on TV day people. This table read about a decade ago took to court I thought he'd win and he lost that rules. Not changing anytime soon. We'll take a break coming up here in our next hour. Is it time for teams to tank for two would that be the right mood. Todd mcshay has his first twenty twenty draft. And we'll debate coming get ESPN.

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Arizona State scandal & CFP expansion update

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Arizona State scandal & CFP expansion update

"Welcome to the audible presented by trader. Joe's i'm stewart mandel joined by bruce feldman it is the middle of june bruce which is usually one of the quietest times in college football of the year. And i'm i'm i'm you know i've been as busy as ever been i. You are to. It's just been in explosion of news in college football. Let's talk about a pretty explosive story. That emerged on wednesday in terms of recruiting violations at arizona. State that You and are. Asu writer. doug taylor have been on top of so Herm edwards obviously has had an interesting time as the head coach at a issue and Look i think he really is handed the keys of his program largely to his defense coordinator antonio pierce. Who's i think has been promoted four times there and there has been a lot of chatter on the west coast especially over the last week about Some questionable recruiting Tactics and one of the things that come to light. As we reported at the athlete was that arizona state was hosting recruits on campus and in their building during the dead period that was imposed related to covid throughout. And this was like it was interesting after our story went up. I got a call last night which being wednesday night From a coach. Who's in the afc who said who's who's like we heard about this because we had two kids we were recruiting are recruiting who just matter-of-factly had talked about how they had been at asu. And we're like why you know. This was back earl much earlier in the spring way before this month started obviously And this coach made an interesting point. He's like you know a lot of kids most kids. You recruit do not know the ncaa recruiting rules. They do not know the recruiting calendar. They they just don't understand it. It's like something where it's complicated for high school coaches to know. So what you're doing is you're going to have family members in some cases recruits you know in on basically A somewhat of a secret That's probably getting out. And what we have found with duggan. I of reporting we talked to a bunch of former. Asu coaches and staffers. As well as. I've talked to a lot of people around the pac twelve and coaches around the country This was kind of an open secret on that was That was out there and so it got into a little bit as we reported of what one former. Asu coach described as a quote rogue culture and had corroborated that At one point a year ago. Asu for three assistant coaches. Were guys that this particular person said were of high integrity in wouldn't cheat And they were guys that were fired in. This person felt antonio pierce you know. It was really the one that herm edwards leaned on a lot and it was like basically these guys were guys that they knew were wouldn't probably do some of these things and they replace them with younger coaches who would kind of just basically do whatever they were told in that regard and which you've gotten some really really dubious Conduct in it and One of the things we'd report on was like this coach talked about personally. Witnessing an instance last season in the twenty twenty season Where ran into a recruit being brought up like backstairs by some recruiting assistance during coded. And they were taking him to meet meet up with her and this person was like it was blatant You know and so there. That's seems to be the tip of the iceberg here and one of the one of the Coaches i talked to today made the point that was like here. You're having all the stuff go in the pac twelve with asu and your you know it's it's out there now and it doesn't right now it doesn't right to the threshold of some of the stuff you see at some other like programs like people have made this comment to me in the conference. It's like it's not like arizona. State has had like a top ten recruiting class. They had the eighth ranked recruiting class according to two four seven last year. So it's not like yes. They landed jaden daniels. Who was who has been a terrific player for them. It was a big get for them. But it's not like they've been recruiting top ten classes in the wake of all this so it's gonna be really interesting to see how much of this pours out but i think it is going to bring to light. You know it's a really interesting situation. Because i know you and i've talked about this a lot over a couple years. When ray anderson the arizona state. ad hired herm edwards. He boasted about how they're going to do things a certain way and really look towards this. You know kind of almost like an nfl model and where her is delegating. A lotta stuff. Well the nfl model is one thing but the ncaa is going to view it. As head coaches are responsible for what goes on in their program. Now one of the things. I had heard from a former f. Asu staffer was. You know some of the guys who are deeply rooted in the nfl world but maybe new to college coaching. And that's that was the case of you know what's the leadership at a issue. Right now is they may not really they think these some of these rules are really stupid. They may not respect them and it sounds like they didn't care about bendon them a couple of things that that really stand out to me for wine. I mean you know for the most part. People are focused on the when you talk about a recruiting violation somebody trying to get an edge. It's a competitive advantage But in this case we're talking a kind of a blatant disregard for health and safety. You know all teams in the country last year. We're trying so hard to basically form a bubble around their football program to keep You know people from coming in that might Spread covid and i. We don't know. I don't know what the crime the order of events was here with when the recruits came in and went but asu had one of the worst outbreaks in the country. Last year. they had to cancel three straight games. Herm edwards tested positive. Half the coaching staff tested positive. I remember when matt berry the sportscenter anchor who went to a issue and clearly connected. There tweeted early on during that stretch that they didn't have enough guys on one side of the ball to practice so year. They were having massive cova issues. Amidst all that you know based on the description it was just kinda like free rein they're bringing in recruits and their families and having visits just like normal times they're hiding recruits in this in the stadium. Sweet during a game You know that. Put the players in the staff in the building endanger. And i think that because of that you know the ncaa is going to take a much harsher look view of this then just like you know they. They brought in some kids when they shouldn't have you know if there were just like run of the mill recruiting violation And then yeah the other thing that really stands out to me in your reporting pete damn has a story about this on yahoo Is you you rarely see a situation. Where so many people are so eager to dunk on the asu to to to out them like usually no. There's this unwritten code where everybody knows who's cheating but nobody turns them in or not rats them out you got if former Staffers there guys like you said they run off guys who didn't want to be part of this. Who are jumping at the chance to talk to the ncaa who were eager to let somebody know how shady it was there. And you know we like you said like what we've reported so far is probably just the tip of the iceberg in terms of this rogue recruiting operation. That was going on and yeah. This is where that that infamous press release when in and by the way for people who don't know or don't remember rare anderson. The ad there was herm edwards agent when he was an nfl agent so first he hires his former client and then they put out this press release. That makes a point not just. They hired a coach but they are going to invent. When i looked at up yesterday they called the new leadership model. A new model for college. Coaching with the coaches the ceo. Who is you know the leadership guy. The big picture strategy guy. It was their admission that her has no college coaching experience. And yet they think this is going to be great. Because they'll just structured in a different way where he is the big picture guy and the coordinators and the assistant sir. Maybe more empowered to run the day to day and based on this early description. I mean it just blew up spectacularly. So i think they're in big trouble You know without knowing all the full details yet. It just seems like when you got this when they when the compliance people are already the ncaa already they're interviewing people There's a reference and one of the stories to there being video You know well the video. So the video part of this. I can get. This is something we talked about. You know a little bit internally is their security but yeah so and one of the coaches has said one when the coaches has said look you know you're gonna get caught at this because their security video Unless you're gonna erase the security video which puts it into another threshold That is kind of mind. Boggling that this now keep in mind. This is not two thousand. Twenty obviously was not a normal season. So i know you. And i talked about this a day earlier about well. How could people not in the building see we remember. It wasn't like you're having the normal foot traffic. You're having the normal day to day where you know. Certain people are around. There's there's receptionists. there's admins whatnot. This is a little different dynamic. But you still have the security footage and so you know as Doug and i had talked about there. Have been You know what we have heard of this. This packet that has been sent A whistleblower in the program You know somebody had said to me. I don't know what's in the package specifically but what i've heard it's like three dozen pages and that there's some receipts in there. That could be very very damning and as you mentioned there is a lot and i you know this a couple of the people i spot spoke to who fit in this category. Who are not going to hold back and not going to lie to the ncaa when they get contacted about it and also in this point got made to me by a coach in the pac twelve is that there's a lot of kids that asu probably did not sign who were part of Some illegal recruiting tactics. Those players are going to likely get contacted and they are going to be told if you lied. The ncaa causes all sorts of problems for you. There is no just like the fourth of the former assistants. Do not seem to have any allegiance right now to the regime at arizona state. There's not gonna be much allegiance to to players who may have been recruited. There were part of some sketchy behavior and then they may be turned to. I don't know how long that process because that's not something here. We are sitting here in the middle of june Pac twelve media days like five weeks away campus. Six weeks away. I don't know how quickly this all ramps up. I don't know if it's like you know not to show our cards too much. But i know doug and i have a lot more in our reporting that like it's not ready. What a t-that but there but there's there's a lot of there's a lot more stuff that we have And i'm sure that there's a lot of other people who are also now in on this especially you know not to give away show too much of the hand but it's like we'll we'll talk about this for a second is. There's a lot of a lot of parts of this that have tentacles into southern california Recruiting and seven on seven and high school football in. So it's not going to surprise me fs some newspapers get involved in the reporting as well So it's you know it's it's pretty unwieldy in terms of where this story covers where it may end up going. What i'm it's gonna be fascinating to see is how does arizona state because again the ad as we just talked about ray. Anderson is really tied into this in a way that a lot of times a dis are but not to this degree. And so you know what happens in this and i don't want to speculate too far beyond that but you know we're not that far from training camp and this thing is really kind of exploding and again as our story that we that went up on the athletic on wednesday points out it was like it's they're direct ties to her involvement. I wouldn't try to predict how the ncaa part of it plays out. Because as as we've talked about a million times it's completely unpredictable and it might take who knows what it'll take them six months a year. Two years hour-long long to do that investigation. But in the meantime we've seen schools handle this differently but it's generally based on. How successful is the coach. You know we see in basketball you know. Kansas is going to protect bill. Fight for bill self to the death. Arizona tried to fight for shawn miller for years until he stopped winning as many games and then in football league. We saw ole miss standby hugh freeze during that thing until until he had his other scandal. But we just saw tennessee. Toss cheering for it aside Want some something kind of like this. You know once kind of similar where there was a whistle blower and suddenly choice but to investigate themselves so You know herm has given them optimism But it's not like he's really won anything significance yet. There was a lot of optimism that this could be their breakout season. But we haven't seen it yet and in fact you know. Ironically that thing that he has given the most That the that the asu fans have been most excited about is the recruiting in our starting to find out. That was a house of cards. So i can't imagine there won't be some some some pink slips here and it's just a matter. How high up does it go. You know their physician assistance antonio pierce and whatnot who are directly implicated. They're probably gonna get fire. Is hurrying to get fired. I think that depends on whether this gets pinned on Whether they can prove that he had knowledge of these things or that he was directly responsible for them. If he if he needs to be fired then. I think you've gotta look at the ad rain or sin. Because this was his higher heat this was his idea and you would think he'd be held accountable for it as well. So could be just a just a complete shake-up at asu. Yeah and again. I think it's it's going to be interesting to see how they handle it because as we saying it butts up against training camp and i don't know like can you suspend assistance pending an investigation. If it's you know again it's how quickly does. Asu kind of jump into this. Because they're already there's already investigation the ncaa's ordina involved. The compliance people at asu are already involved You know put aside just what it does for the recruiting part of it for the class of of twenty twenty two but just in terms of what it means for the guys on the field and then there's also the specter of okay. Well there are players. They recruited And have signed. What does it mean for their eligibility. Yeah potentially You know there's still. There's a lot of stuff that asu compliance especially is going to have to try to get to the bottom of and they're gonna have to. I don't wanna say they're gonna have to get to bottom in a hurry but the question is going to be as You know it's like we haven't mentioned this part of it. Also you have a new pack twelve commissioner. Who is starting in thirteen days. Right and you ever anderson who was pretty prominent in terms of the president of the school at asu Those were strong voices in in the pac. Twelve in a place where you didn't have a lot that's something else. I wanted to bring up real quick michael crow the president of arizona state some presidents. Aren't that involved in athletics. He is very involved in athletics. He is probably the most prominent voice in the pac twelve among the pac twelve presidents. a lot of people say he used the reason. Larry scott stay in power for as long as he did. And there's no question his his a. I've talked to people who Work at asu and that new leadership model that that press releases in keeping with just michael rose approached everything. Everything at asu academically always framed around how they're the innovators how they're going to reinvent things. So i mean. I think he was probably i know he was. This was not entirely ray. Anderson thing like michael crow was definitely involved in the hiring and approval of edward so And i would all the other thing. I was told is that you know. He was very You know made a really big deal. About how serious they were about. 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So last week the working group the four people who had apparently in total secret credit to them for keeping this a secret from the media for to spend two years Hashing out this. This proposed format as recording this. All of the commissioners are in chicago troop true days of meetings. And that's where they're gonna have their first. You know kind of open. Discussion and debate over what was proposed in the next week in dallas. That same group will meet with the presidents of a group of presidents who are basically the board of the cfp not expecting them to come out of those meetings having signed sealed and delivered anything Basically they just need to give the sign off and say you know we want. We want you to keep pursuing this. We want you to to make this happen so in everybody in the industry you know The nobody thinks that greg sankey in jacksonville brick and bow these very prominent figures would have gone on national teleconference with the media. Touting all the great things about twelve team playoff if they thought there was any chance that their presence were gonna come and say nah. No we're staying for. I think everybody expects this is the model and it will happen. But it's going to take all summer and possibly into the fall to kneel down all the details to you know have to rework contracts. Possibly with the spn and the bowls so it's a long process from here but in you know we've spent a lot of time in the last week making calls talking to people around the industry and i would i get the sense that it's very popular like they. They put a lot of thought into it and people are very impressed with the overall proposal. The one element that's kind of controversial and took people by surprise is that the quarter finals will be played at ball games. I think people assumed that those would be on campus. That bowl games which have really just can't quit them. Just can't quit the habit i mean. It's it's it's amazing because the bulls have is not the days of ten fifteen years ago john. Junker at the fiesta bowl. Running up those huge expense account like the bulls. Don't have nearly the power that used to and yet you know you listen to bob. Dole's be on. that call. Talked about the sanctity tradition. And yeah i agree with you. I think they can't quit them. My story the up on the athletic on thursday gets into some of the reasons why they people feel like they can't quit them. One is just flat out there and contracts with them until twenty twenty six and if they want to do this sooner they may have no choice but to honor those contracts but also you know just is you know as much as people mock the and i know you hate it when they do mock. The lower level bowls As glorified exhibitions or whatnot. It is it is important for them to keep that going and keep that healthy because at the end of the day even in a twelve team playoff. You're talking about nine percent of the fbi. Teams are going to be in this thing in any given year. And i would say it's an even smaller percentage of teams that will regularly go to the cfp so that leaves a whole lot of schools. That still need something meaningful to play for at the end of the year So it is important to them to keep the bowl system going and maybe they feel that if they if they were to kick the the rose in the fiesta and the sugar and everything out. Completely that the trickle down effect would just kill the other bowls That's a that's a. that's a possibility. I just get the sense that the idea of you know our colleague. Andy staples definitely leading the charge on this. Dan wetzel who wrote death to the bcs a decade ago. They do. They really loved the idea of alabama florida. Florida has to go play Wisconsin and the bitter. I love the idea of that. I think a lot of fans loved the idea. I think a lot of people love the idea of that. I don't know that commissioners feel strongly about that though. I mean does it. Yeah because the commissioners outside of kevin warren You know like greg thank. You probably doesn't love. You mentioned florida. Which is obviously. It's not you know there's probably worse weather states in his footprint in terms of that but like yeah it takes it puts them at a disadvantage to go. If you're gonna go play a game against wisconsin. I covered a packers. Vikings playoff game in january. I mean it's an awesome place to be but you know. I'm not playing in the game and i'm not somebody who grew up in a warm weather state. So it's i kinda get that part of it but to me. You know that should be part of football. It's part of the nfl and the bucks went up to green bay last year. one But the interesting thing about sankey being one of the authors of this is that i i know for sure that the abc's and his conference are probably more than any other not on board with it Because they look at this as a chance to you know college. Football tendency has been in decline for a decade or more. Even at the even the alabama's even the george like everybody has trouble filling their stands especially for those early non conference games and for them. If they're if they knew that going into a year giving any given year you know that they felt like they have a pretty good chance to finish high enough to host a playoff game that becomes part of the enticement of by season ticket. You know by your season tickets. You will have first dibs on playoff tickets but under this proposal. Yeah four teams that you would have to be specifically seated five through eight to get one of those. If you're higher you don't get one of those you go straight to the to the bowl part of it so i think it's very clunky and i think the logistics of it are daunting and i think that even if they do it they'll get three years into it and be like this isn't sustainable But as of now. I think that the support for it among the commissioners is much stronger than maybe people would realize. Let me ask you a question. An inside baseball question. You talked about this a little bit. Offline but i kind of pick your brain more on it Our pow ross dellinger of sl dot com had a fascinating story. He did two days ago. About how this has been in the works for a long time and it was kept under wraps and credit to ross four Bringing it to light. I'm curious like you know. We both talked to a lot of people in college. Athletics this was not you know there was a lot of people involved in this. Like how surprised. Are you that. It was kept under wraps to this degree. And like i don. I wanna i wanna take a question beyond that which is almost like what does that tell you about how we're going with. This is last year around this time. We kind of realized how fractured the leadership of college. Football was right. It was every man or every leader every person for themselves every conference for themselves right. That's to me that was one of the takeaways from all that And yet this was like seemed to be seemed to be a very concerted effort where everybody was on board So i don't know exactly. I'm trying to phrase the question to you but like what is your read on how they were able to kind of keep that under wraps the way they were and crew presents a unified voice on something that has rarely uniform. Yeah i think that it is. I can't emphasize enough how different this process has been that covered years and years of of. Bcs meetings you know. I can remember being at a at a hotel in south florida in two thousand eight. When mike's live i proposed they don't even call it a playoff at the time of plus one nobody would dare utter playoff I was in a covered. All the meetings in two thousand twelve. They lead to the fourteen playoff. It was nothing like this. It was all public leaks. They basically looked like nick there. I guess what i would say was very adversarial. Jim delany wanted. What was best for the big ten mics live. Obama was best for the sec and everybody had their agenda and it was just kinda. It was very college. Football is very disorganized. Chaotic kind of like what we saw with covid last summer. This has been much more organized. I think they picked the right for people to to. You know wasn't the. I think the whole group had been working on it the whole time it would have leaked out. You picked four people. They swore themselves to secrecy Lots of smokescreens. Along the way rick. Sankey up until this year every time you he was asked about it. I like four teams. I'm fine with four teams. And apparently all the while he was plotting out in ross one point they talked about twenty four teams so they did very good job of that and then i really do think i don't want to sound cheesy but is really the first time in all my time covering this that they put together something where they it seems like they genuinely looked out for what's best for the sport. Not just what's best for them because it's not best for the power five to give the group of five not only to give the group of birth but to leave open the possibility they might take birth from the power five if one of the power five times as to how is how is this. Aside from the part about homes home games vs bowl games if you're the sec. You go from having a chance. You're not you're probably not getting to your rarely getting two teams. Now you may get four. I think twelve teams is definitely better for the sec than aid. No question about that yeah. Twelve teams also. Good for everybody else. This trying to get You know i mean the big ten has his is a realistic one to send multiple teams. It's great for the group of five Last year they had to they would have had to In this in the in the playoffs so they found something that everybody. That's good for the sec. That's good for the big ten. That's good for the good for. Yeah it's it's seems to be good for everybody. The only thing that i i mentioned this before and i don't know how much this'll be an issue or not is just it's more games for players to play. And but you know. Look with an i l. there there's more visibility more opportunity because as we're talking about now these some of these games in late october november should have more marketability more visibility for them so. I think that's seems to be a win win. I mean i think if you're a player for for iowa and and you're not necessarily a high round draft pick and now you get a chance instead of going to the outback bowl to play in the playoff. You're not going to be all that worried about. I have to pay extra games. I think if you're you know Name the alabama star player or the clemson star player georgia star player. Who has serious. Nfl aspirations who is going to play in this thing maybe every year of their career almost every year of their career. You know that's a whole different. That's a different animal. And i didn't think that the commissioners on that call last week. I thought their answers. We asked him about player. Safety and length Their answers were not satisfactory. I don't think in this climate where i mean literally the day were reporting this. There's like the eighteenth congress hearing about and i l. and you safety athletes safety and is a huge issue on that front for them absolutely an end. The athletes obviously are more emboldened aware than they ever have been. We saw that during covid out there. They're very aware that they are kind of you. Know like all the lanes that they went through to play the football season last year warranty. You know in large part about we can't lose the money. We can't lose the money so to your point. I think if they do this they're going to have to find a way for the athletes to be compensated for those extra games and it may be that and i l. is the way to do that. That it won't is. There's we're not. You know nobody is remotely entertaining the idea of paying players a salary or anything where the schools are writing a check to their players. Or even if the ncaa's radio but could it be that that come twenty twenty three Everybody who plays in the allstate sugar bowl gets an gets appearance fee and i'm using air quotes right now. An appearance fee from That they're like you know police for one game that they're kind of like Influence or or folks. That could be a possibility but i. i don't think. I think they will be met with fierce resistance from congress state politicians. They'll be lawsuits if they just say all right. This is the system you could play. Seventeen games and amateurism amateurism amateurism. That's just not gonna fly in the current climate all the while that these the you know the these stories have been dominating. The news cycle in college. Football mean we talk about michigan and boesch becker. Last week in that has not let up there was another round of protests. And you're seeing more former michigan. Athletes come forward to say. They were abused by that. Dr to To two point two you just the horror. The fact that michigan had so many opportunities to stop this and didn't and now there's obviously in terms of the the football program aspect of it. There's calls to remove the bone. Becker statue and to rename becker hall. And i'm always a little leery of awaiting into that when it's somebody else's campus what. I'm starting to wonder about what this thing is. Where's jim harbaugh and He he had one comment a little ago. Constant you know saying defending rochemback ler boesch. boeckler is was his undisputed mentor The guy he styles himself after as michigan's football coach and as this goes on and as more comes out As the face of michigan football like he'll go to big ten media days. He'll get asked about this. How does he respond to this in a way where. I'm sure he doesn't wanna step by. He may truly believe that both dzhembekov did nothing wrong. But there's a danger there have going to bat for him and looking like you're just being completely on sympathetic to the victims right. I do think this is a unique dynamic in that. Like you and i talked about whatever parallels there are two penn state and gop. Turn aware you boesch amac or has been an iconic figure in college football and especially tied to the university of michigan. The team the team the team there are so many people not just former players but even people we we know you know in media circles who has spent a lot of time around michigan and so there's a reverence there well as people are trying to reconcile that it's it's kinda unique in that even though boashan bekker's been gone for a long time in. This doctor has been gone for a long time. You have a head coach. Who enlarge part was brought back to his alma mater because of his connection as affinity and all things both shimba cler. And so as we've seen. Jim harbaugh is kind of an unpredictable guy when it comes to what he says in front of a microphone to I i very fascinated by this dynamic as it's relating because we've seen a lot of former standout players at at at michigan people were now twenty years removed from their playing careers speaking up and the story as you know our story on site is. We're not quitting. Robert anderson survivors demand action from michigan Jim harbaugh is going to as you said. Gonna be back in the spotlight. Some people i've talked to about then the last week about how the sham boeckler story and how it's being handled by the college football media you know. I had this conversation with somebody on a last thursday. And they've like well it's in the tapping in the off season. And you know games are not going to be played for a couple of months and as you pointed out you know one of the not one of the only times. It's been in the news but one of the flashpoints where it was in the news where there was a press conference happen the same day as the cfp announcing that there was movement towards twelve team. Playoff at that. News comes and goes. The ugliness of the michigan scandal is not going away Does what what is jim. Harbaugh's answer's going to be to this when he is going to be asked about it and he is gonna be asked about it. I think he's going to be asked about it more than one. Time as you said big ten media days announced that it's gonna be In indianapolis like a month from now a little more than a month from now that is gonna come up. I mean bo- shambo goes not just any other former coach and his relationship with jim. Harbaugh is not just i made. It is much different and so You know does what. Jim harbaugh say. It's from the heart. Does that ended up. Inflaming the situation further in causing even more You know even more headlines. Even more attention because jim brandstatter who at least people in the big ten probably know of his a longtime voice of michigan football. He gave some comments. I think they were to the detroit. Free press earlier in the week. That certainly you know Inflamed a lot of people in terms of You know let question timeline of of shock. Sign as one as one of many of the accusers. And so how does jim harbaugh handle this publicly. It's it's going to be something to keep an eye on its i. I don't know how he'll handle it. But it's gonna it's gonna it's going to be a lot different than it's going to have a lot different impact than the radio voice saying something pretty much. Anybody else connected to michigan football. It's almost a situation where the current michigan football coach was when rich rodriguez was michigan football. Coach i give somebody from the outside. Who has no previous ties to that era Dower probably be a little bit less messy than a guy who played for beauchamp sham boeckler models his whole program after bo sham boeckler basically moved into the neighborhood that bo used to live in to try to kind of almost like get that same. Feel of what it's like. Bose existence was to coach. The the michigan wolverines. I mean it's really like It's a very unique dynamic. That i don't think there's quite anything like it in college. Football right now. And you've got unfortunately sadly tragically and hundreds of of Victims out there from this doctor and you know they weren't certainly weren't all michigan football players by any means but they now know or they've now heard from several of beauchamp bekker's players just his son who the family has come out and disputed you know. Non family member michigan football players. Who said they told beauchamp boeckler about this and we're disregarded You're gonna have a whole lot of people out there that if the face of michigan football tries to defend this guy or certainly worse than that tries to you know like like some other. People don't question the credibility of the people bringing these four that. That's not going to go well so i don't I don't pretend to know how that's gonna play out But you know to me that to me that's more. I guess you can take down the statue and you can rename the football building. Those things to me are symbolic. It's how does michigan football deal with this. This you know drastic Trap this this tragedy and how it's impacted the legacy of the guy who is the base of Was the michigan football for so long. You know penn state in many ways is still dealing with that or has been for a long time in terms of you know they brought in james franklin who has no Connection to that era and who has for years had to deal with the fact that they're still a fraction of that fan base. I don't know how big it is. That still reveres. Joe paterno and you know Resents that he does things differently than joe paternity to cetera et cetera. So this is going to impact michigan football. I think for a long time all right. Well we've run out of time for this week. We will open the mail bag next week. I'm sure you guys have a lot of questions about the playoff. Our encourage you to go on the athletic where we've written eight gazillion articles about the playoff including a qa nicole. Our back and i did with the subscribers and answered a lot of those questions. But we'll see next time.

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