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"shawn fantasy" Discussed on The Big Picture

The Big Picture

13:01 min | 5 months ago

"shawn fantasy" Discussed on The Big Picture

"Baseball Barbecue hosted by Jake Mints Endurance Shusterman. They're bringing the good the bad and the utterly bizarre corners of the baseball world and everything that makes it special. Draw the off season. They'll dive into the rabbit hole on some of their favourite fascinations from homerun Derby to baseball brawls and much more wants this is an returns. They'll break down the latest. Mlb News and developments. You can subscribe to Baseball Barbecue on spotify or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Shawn Fantasy. I'm Amanda Ovens and this is the big picture a conversation show about the movie. Everyone is waiting for. I'm talking about an audacious story. That is stoking conversation about the future of the theatrical experience a visionary film that Features Movie Stars Extraordinary Action. High-stakes the works. I'm talking of course about unhinged starring Russell Crowe in theaters around the country July. I just kidding. I'm talking about tenant. The sci-fi Crime Saga directed by Christopher Nolan and starring Robert Pattinson. That is expected to arrive as of this recording in theaters across the country on July seventeenth or is it ten. It has been touted as the movie that will reopen Hollywood that can salvage what has been tremendously difficult period for theatrical Exhibitors Theater. Workers Actors Filmmakers Craftspeople People Studio Employees Journalists essentially every single person who works in or is connected to the film industry television streaming into perpetuity. But movies still need theaters and so there is an extraordinary burden on. This is one of the signature communal events in American life. Gathering in the dark to be excited terrified thrilled. Everything that Chris owns movies do at their very best and yet Amanda. It seems completely impossible. That movie theaters will open two months from today. I've spoken to people in and around the industry over the past week to get a feel for this moment and everyone seems very confused. How are you feeling about the burden that is placed on tenant right now? I do not think that anyone movie can save the movie industry or that. It is fair to expect anyone movie to save industry or ruin the movie industry or reopen theaters. Or give us all our jobs back or that is put on tenant that said. I definitely don't think it's opening a too I. Just what are we doing? What are we doing? I completely agree. This just seems like one of the most obvious and difficult conversations in this into throughout much of cove nineteen and obviously this is very low on the list of important concerns regarding all the ramifications but for the purposes of this podcast. It's a huge deal because everything has really grind ground to a halt with the exception of trolls world tour and a handful of netflix releases. And Scoop He. The the movie industry is just not moving forward. There's no production happening right now. And with the exception of a handful of drive in movie theaters seem to be doing pretty nice business right now movies are at a standstill and you know. We got a report over the weekend from deadline about the stakes involved here with potentially making at the re entry film and the report stated that Warner Brothers needs eighty percent of the world's theaters to be opening to make tenants successful. I suppose that could also be true for just eighty percent of the theaters in the United States. Open to to make the film successful. This is a film with the two hundred million dollar budget and a lot of expectation even before there was a global pandemic and it certainly just doesn't feel like were close to being able to have experiences like going to movie theaters. I agree with that to me. It feels a little bit like a game of you know. I don't want to say chicken because I do think everybody's taking their responsibilities as seriously as they can. There's obviously like a lot of information that no one has but it really seems like on the one. Hand Warner Brothers is waiting for the local and state and regulations to be like okay. No you're movie. Theaters will not be open. That it won't be possible and I think the movie theaters that those local state regulation bodies etc. Like frankly have better things to do on or not worried about when movie theaters are going to be off and it's not the priority so it does just seem like a game of waiting for someone to blink. Finally because we're getting closer and closer to July seventeenth and it just doesn't seem like this systems are in place for this to be possible especially at the scale. That Warner Brothers has indicated that it needs in order to make ten successful. I thought a really interesting thing in that deadline piece that you mentioned was that it said that eighty percent of cedars need to be open including New York Los Angeles and San Francisco which are three of them major movie markets in the United States and three very large cities that have taken different approaches to how to manage this but are not immediately throwing open the doors to every single business establishment. So just from a practical sense. It seems like we're running out of time. I agree I as residents of California. I think it's safe to say that you know I'm grateful for how the the the leadership and the state has handled the pandemic but also they have been operating with an overwhelming sense of caution in all these issues and that has been met with some frustration by business owners by people who just want to go to the beach. But you know it. We're talking about two months. It's not a long period of time and the cases are still obviously piling up in this country. And so you're right that just from a very practical perspective. It seems unlikely at best that the theaters are going to open. And we'll get into this as we get deeper into. This conversation about the expectations are on this film and the expectations around the industry in general but the domino effect on this is is just extraordinary for what we talk about on this show every week and you and I can probably come up with top ten list until the cows come home and have a lot of fun talking about old movies and I cooked up to more ideas for stuff. I talked about last night and I think that'll be great to do. But the lifeblood of a contemporary film podcast Is Contemporary. Films is new films and the conversation that stokes new films and antennas is one of those movies. That if you if you if you dig this show on dig what we're doing and care about movies the way that we do it is. It is one of the key movies. It's one of the five key movies. It was going to come out this year. It is the kind of movie even though I personally am not always the biggest Christopher Nolan Fan. They're fun to talk about. You know they're they`re. They're really a gift and ten is an original film and it's trying to do something that even the movies that we have to drag with us through every conversation or the star wars movies or animated kids films as far as big tent pole stories. Go this is really the biggest and most unique in its way and so there's really there are no good answers. I mean you mentioned New York Los Angeles and San Francisco through the various reporting. We've seen that. There is there are already some guidelines for what a theater could do to open. Texas several weeks ago had the opportunity to reopen. Its movie theaters in some theaters that open. But that didn't mean that. Any of the notable studios. We're going to release their films into those studios. So that's the first thing the studios have to agree to start putting movies out. We saw last week that the forever purge the fifth purge film from Blunt House was taken from off the date of July tenth and is now indefinitely coming out. And that's just GONNA keep happening. You know the movies that are around attendant are also starting to move or starting to see August films move or starting this even September movies. Move into twenty twenty one and so because of that and because of these these guidelines that we're GonNa talk about. I seems unlikely. But I mean you. You cited some checkered seating here in the way that we would live in a movie theater if this were to happen what what has to happen here for this to work. We don't know what has to happen and this is what's interesting. Is that what? I'm in. A site? Checkered seating is a like a phrase that has come up in a lot of the industry reporting as as the trades are speaking with theater owners and trying to put together a Some guidelines but everyone is still figuring this out. Nothing has been officially announced the general understanding of what checkered seating is. And I'm quoting the Hollywood reporter here. Is that cedars could end up leaving every other row empty as well as keeping empty seats between patriots in alternating rows and and I think there would be a reserve seating element there. There is a reserve seating element to a lot of theaters already but enforcing where people can buy tickets and where people can sit and this seems to kind of be the consensus at this moment. In terms of what checkered seating is then there would be like increased sanitary measures throughout the theaters. Though you know. I think that'll be senior by Cedar Standard as to what they're doing and how they're enforcing it because there aren't a major guidelines coming up from above at this point so that to me is such a big question is like if even if the theaters are allowed to open. This is like an extreme amount of legwork. You know this is just a completely new involved. Expensive system that they have to put into place in order to allow a lot fewer theater people into their theaters and that takes time and resources Before you even get into questions of like quote consumer confidence or other issues. It's the same issue that is facing many restaurants around the country. It's the same issue that's facing. Many stores many businesses in terms of when they open. How will they manage the intake? And how will they manage the personal interaction that is necessary when operating a business? I think there's there's anxiety about running your credit card to recruit a card reader right now and concern about being able to sanitize your hands and wash your hands and Where mask and you know. I think there's also obviously an additional layer of liability concern given that if these movie theaters do open in July tenant does play and people go and there's an awareness of the film if someone if one person walks out of a movie theater and contracts the virus from another person who has gone to a movie theater. What does that mean for the movie theater? What does that mean for the filmmakers? What does that mean for the studio? What what level of responsibility and financial and legal liability to they have. I don't know. This is uncharted territory There is a this is a free country to some extent and given that. I think it's probably arguable about whether or not Businesses should should accept blame and responsibility for someone becoming sick in an environment like that It's not as if the movie business is the only business that is struggling financially. And so even though. That's the big focus of this conversation. Every business is going to have to consider these. I think that's completely true. I think there should and there's well and I just think that when we are trying to understand how Movie Theaters and studios are evaluating these decisions. You have to keep in mind that they are probably trying to do the math of what liability they're willing to accept And how they work it out against the procedures that they can put in place versus how they can put it against their bottom line And it's I I eh. Tricky dance and uncharted territory. So let's let's talk about that. That's the sort of uncharted territory. That comes with the checkered seating that you cited you know the economic feasibility of this is another factor. Obviously the budget on tenant is huge and the budget on a movie like Milan which is scheduled to come out shortly thereafter. Those are these are big movies that need not just one viewing repeat viewings from from fans film. That need you know Friday and Saturday nights sold out? We've seen like I said Dr in movies have been you know modestly successful. I have seized. The wretched has gotten a lot of press very small horror movie. That is you know. Made Eighty five thousand dollars across twenty one drive in locations. That's okay but eighty five thousand wooden cover the catering on the production of tenant. It's a very small sum when we're talking about these massive releases so in that deadline story. Anthony Del Sandro reported that the public comments by Disney Chairman Bob shape pack and cinemark executives cited that Making this theatrical business sustainable at thirty to fifty percent capacity is unlikely and with that checkered seating.

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Beastie Boys Made a Movie. We Made a Beastie Boys Podcast.

The Big Picture

09:03 min | 6 months ago

Beastie Boys Made a Movie. We Made a Beastie Boys Podcast.

"I'm Shawn Fantasy and this. Is the big picture a conversation? Show about Beastie Boys. That's right beastie. Boys made a movie beastie boys story which is directed by Spike Jones and available to watch right now on apple. Tv plus. If you're like me and worship Beastie boys you need to watch this movie later in the show. I'll be talking to add rock. And like diaw Beastie boys about their movie history their favorite fruits. How they're doing in quarantine. The New York Knicks documentaries that they want to see a bunch of other stuff as I tried to keep them focused on our conversation. A really love these guys beastie. Boys are my favorite band ever and it isn't even really close so to talk about them before we get to them. I asked the VIC Ferrari to my Alessandro Allegra. Join me it's Chris Ryan. Hi Chris. I've always seen myself more as a Nathan Wind Guy. I've been waiting my whole life to do this. Podcast so let's go. I'm very glad you're here with me. I can't think of anybody else. I'd WanNa have here other than you. Except maybe Mike the Inadequacy and they're coming later. So when I say beastie boys what's the first thing that pops in your head Chris? Probably the invention of cool so I think one thing that we've talked about a lot over the last twelve to eighteen months. We've had a lot of Quentin Tarantino podcasts. We've we celebrated a lot of his movies on the watchable. We talked about them on. Big Picture Podcast with him and something that comes up. Ally is kind of how he gave us a vocabulary or language to through which to understand culture and understand the world and I think the Beastie boys are equally responsible for that in both of our lives in terms of introducing us to so much music and so much other culture that wound up becoming just part of our like way in which we relate to the rest of the world through these like Kung Fu and exploitation movies through rap Reggae punk rock weird funk like all like it just basically made collectors and fans out of out of us at the risk of stepping on music exists. I wanted to ask you why you think you. And I to some extent to are so interested in figures who are all about basically like recombinant culture. You know who take all the disparate parts of stuff that they love and smash it all together because that is the thing that the movie and then returning to all of this music that I listened to over and over and over and over again in my life that I have thought about is like wow they really just jammed all the stuff they liked together to make something new like. What is it about that? The second part of what you said is the most important thing. Do you think about the people that we really respond to. Wu Tang clan quitting Tarantino. Beastie boys it means we're very basic very and B. It's the most important part is finding the second thing the thing that you're GonNa make out of all this shit. And that's what makes me so excited is when someone uses all these postmodern tools in these reconstructs. All these things out of this of Cultural Ephemera to say something else. Wootten Klan took all those Kung Fu movies and took all those samples but made something that could only have been made in Staten Island. You know back could only have made the music. He made with the experience that he had. And the Beastie boys could only have been the beastie boys by combining bad brains with run DMC. Yeah and I feel like it's not a mistake that so much of what we do at the ringer and so much of what you and I have been trying to do in. Our lives is basically celebrate and be enthusiastic about the things that we care about and I feel like these artists are the same way if you if you think about Beastie boys and you even look at the way they tell their story in the movie. It's just we really liked was the clash and grandmaster flash and Cheech and Chong and we were trying to find a way to make all those things make sense together and I feel the same way about what we do every day I feel about you and I love the NBA and we love Top Gun and we love. I love deb's I don't know how you feel Dad's but You know just trying to find a way to make all those things fit together so I feel like I have aped and tried to copy a lot of what those guys do. And I feel like a kinship to their their mission their creative project. Absolutely I mean like you and I don't mean to make it sound like you. And I are the Beastie boys here but you know. I think that we use the Internet the way other people would use a sampler right and we draw in all these different media. We'd take youtube videos. We take a picture and I think it was probably more the case before we started working professionally together in an editorial capacity but we would have like tumblers and blog spots and you were just kind of like throw a picture Steve McQueen up in an article you were writing about those face and it would have some sort of relationship and I think that that was our way of continuing along this tradition of mixing and matching different pieces of culture to say something about yourself. The thing that you said that I think is probably one of the most important parts of the movie that will nocco very remarked upon because a lot of it is going to be spent talking about. Yok and it should be because this is very much I think an image to him in a real moving tribute to their friend but when Mike D says in the beginning of the movie that he was just this weird kid who found the clash. Not only is that like. That's the origin story for a lot of people. Who like they find that one band? Whether it's the dead or the clash or you know run DMC. Whoever it is that makes them think that they are now. All of not alone in the world the clashes like a really really important. Template for the Beastie boys because they are basically A Crossroads Group A marketplace. At Crossroads Group. It's where all these different cultures are coming. And they're setting up their wares and you can pick and choose off these tables and then you go home and you make something out of it. And that's what the clash did too. I mean you can make a lot of arguments about appropriation. And whether or not the people who the clash were taken from or or paying homage to properly compensated for the work that they did And the same thing could go. For the Beastie boys but I think a lot more people know about Lee Perry. Because of the Beastie boys did not you know and and that's like a really really important act in culture. Everything is about timing too I think about when they hit the scene and who they were working with and on the one hand I guess there's an appropriation question. I think they've moved past that so effectively because they were just literally there with Russell. Simmons and Rick Rubin and run DMC making music together and they were a part of something that was essentially punk at the end of its first true like lightning rod phase at the end of the day and and rapid the Dawn. You know I mean. They weren't there necessarily in in the parks in the south. Bronx but you know one thousand nine hundred. Eighty three played on the radio. Yeah Yes yes. And there's that great moment in the movie where Africa is asked about cookie. Post by one of the members of the Beastie boys and you can see like they're they're they're they're in the moment and they're going to dense area and you know performing for white people introducing them to wrap it away and that couldn't have happened if they if it was just five years earlier five years later. The same is true for the class. You know it's like they arrived at a time when the world was ready to hear rock and try to play reggae. And what that means for the future reggae. There's something also about this specific approach to the world though that jumps out to me. Which is it's not. Just this is what we like. It's this is what we like and I don't care if you don't like it and I don't I actually don't care if you don't get it because when I think about the things that I knew when I first heard the band it was you could fit it inside of a very small box. I just did my cultural reference points. The music that I knew about the the records the comedy everything that they were throwing in. I wouldn't say that I discovered them because they were sampled for three seconds on a on a record on policy boutique but they were a window. You know I had never heard of Sadaharu. Oh until I heard the beastie boys rap about him you know like there's so much in their music the sampling the lyric writing even if it is in their songs are very rarely like high minded. They're not necessarily pursuits of big ideas. But they put big ideas in front of you. Just by dint of what they were interested in and I I liked that kind of take it or leave it quality they bring to it and I feel like that really comes out in the movie too. Don't you think yeah? It's only a couple of people are lucky enough to have other people care about the thing that they care about. You know you can. You can play the game and you can try. Ride the wave of what's popular at any given moment. But it's so weird because what the beastie boys did especially once they move to La. I think wound up having such an incredibly profound formative effect on all the culture that comes after it but it so it winds up being underrated as as to what a zag that was how crazy it was for those guys to be like. Yeah we'RE GONNA LEAVE NEW YORK. We're GONNA leave behind rapper. We're going to go to capitol from Def Jam. And we're GONNA work with these two producers that basically no one's ever heard of an assemble these like really out there incongruous samples to build together a new sound that we're gonNA use to define us for the next couple of decades. The only thing I wanted to talk about because I think is probably also a reason why you and I like them. Much is that and this comes across very much in the movie much

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Top Five Mark Wahlberg Movies: Say Hi to Your Mother for Us | The Big Picture

The Big Picture

15:27 min | 8 months ago

Top Five Mark Wahlberg Movies: Say Hi to Your Mother for Us | The Big Picture

"Unfortunately this Shithole has more fucking leaks in the Iraqi navy. Fuck Yourself. I'm tired from fucking your wife. How's your mother good? She's tired from fucking my father. You have a job Tom. I'm a firefighter. Oh God bless you a hero. I'm not hero. We'd all be here. We could use the petroleum. No excuse me Christmas. Utah a lot of fucking money. What did you do? I mean if you take away nothing else for my class from this experience let it be this. If you're not a genius don't bother right. The world needs plenty of electricity and a lot of them are happy and they can help. It really can't be that we can always do. Better let me keep trying. If you guys keep trying I'm shawn fantasy and this is the big picture. A conversation show about Mark Wahlberg. This episode may break the all time record for big picture dissonance later in the show. I have an interview with Kelly. Reichardt the writer and director behind independent film classics. Like old joy. Meek's cutoff in the new film. First cow which might be the best movie of Two Thousand Twenty so far. I hope you'll stick around for that but I were joined by the frog. Sheriff Chris Ryan. I heard that Mark. Wahlberg actually dropped out of first cow. He was gonNA play the cow Alao. But you're already doing animal. Humor here on driver too is calling. Chris. You're here because you're a fan of Mark Wahlberg work. He's The star of a new movie. That is hitting Netflix. This Friday called Spencer confidential. I think gets his fifth film with Peterberg. The actor turned director of such films as lone survivor and deepwater horizon. This is a very strange movie but I think it's going to be a a very watched movie because the corona virus is scaring America into staying inside their house. And so I think that there's a potential for a lot of viewership of this movie. So we're talking about Mark Wahlberg one of the most resilient and persistent movie stars. I guess of the past twenty five years so let's just start with WHO is Mark Wahlberg. How did this happen? That Mark Wahlberg became one of the signature figures of movies in the twenty first century. I would not say I'm a fan of Mark Wahlberg as like I'm a I'm agnostic as a citizen. Yeah I would say that. I am very interested in the way that he has conducted his career. Which is kind of a weird throwback to a studio systems our he makes three to four movies every eighteen months somehow and just releases them at like a hugely prolific rate at. I'm fascinated by all the little pockets of his career that he has created where he repeats. You know he goes back to these little micro genres that he and he works a lot of people over and over again by the way he kind of has conducted his career to me is almost unique among Hollywood movie stars anymore. I mean most of the time when people achieve a certain level success. They just like see in three years for my next blockbuster or award fodder and he's just like nope. I'm grinding out. Family movie violent action film and then every once in a while Raunchy comedy and it's just like pretty pretty like unique among all Hollywood stars so I'm fascinated. What do you make them Amanda? I was fascinated when going back to you. Remember how many great directors he's worked with and how many actually excellent movies he's been in. Chris was asking me how much we watching I had to do for this podcast and the answer is a lot. Because I wouldn't say that Mark Wahlberg stays with me besides certain shots that will certainly be discussed on this podcast but he especially I guess in the first decade of this century just goes on a tremendous run. I really from Boogie nights on and works with a does a lot of really great movies and then kind of decides to just become like the Peterberg comedy guy in the second decade of the century. And I it's a really interesting shift. He just Kinda decides no. I'm going to do this now. And it's very fascinating to me I can't really make sense of. I also is Christmas talking about his efficiency. Just pulled up his daily schedule. Do you guys remember the days? Will he wakes up. Like four o'clock in the morning posted this on his own instagram typical daily scheduled to thirty. Am Wake Up. What don't you forty five prayer time. Three fifteen am breakfast. There's a lot of work work. He's golfing from seven thirty to eight. Which is the golf people? And there's a chamber recovery at nine thirty that takes more time than golf workout number two lunches and our so our meeting slash work calls also an hour and he goes to bed at seven thirty PM and which in Los Angeles for. I'd say six at least six months of the year. That is still broad daylight. Yeah Yeah Su. There is real efficiency baked into this. He's clearly very deliberate guy. He's making choices. And I think that pertains to his daily life and also his his career. There is clearly thought going into this. It's not a type of thought. I can access. I still don't know why you would wake up at two thirty and I don't know why you would do like five deep water horizons. There's a rumor that he has a routine. I think you. I'm speculating here. But I think he's a member of Wilshire Country Club here in Los Angeles. My husband told me this last night and he likes to play alone. He likes to play. And that's why he's playing so early in the morning and he's trying to get in like a quick nine or quick eighteen. I don't know five days a week which I'm who among? Us would love to do that if I could wake up before five. Am I would do it. I'll tell you I would love to do that. I'll tell you something else I am. I find golf to be social and I get crippled like when I play by myself. I'm like all the neurosis is creeping like. Should I take another shot now like it really playing golf? If you're not playing with anyone can just tell you. He's got three snacks on the schedule. Including one that takes an hour and a half from eight to nine thirty. Am is snack after seven. Thirty to eight am golf. Probably a euphemism. Oh Okay so you think. His sessions are ninety minutes. So you're saying to jump off something. Amanda said You know who? He reminds me of a bizarre way Cruz. Where it's like that run. Where cruises like I'll just work with Barry Levinson Stanley Kubrick and Steven Spielberg and every great director at it seems like I'm just the most important factor in the whole world and then one day he wakes up and says I'M GONNA make action movies for the rest of my life? It's very unlikely though. I mean his origins restraints obviously member of this very well known family. He's from Massachusetts. He starts out as a a rap artist and ultimately becomes a Calvin Klein M. C. An. Mc Yes we watched the vibrations video. Recently I took my top five twenty two. Would you make of good vibrations? And and how did you feel about the funky bunch all these years later? It's just really bizarre that this was a thing that we lived through. Who is the funky bunch? I I still don't know who's in it. Were you in a Chris? Thought it was the backup dancers. I mean yes. That's who they were but like do you know anything about them and where they are now. I was pretty. Yeah I was pretty. I was pretty authentic back then so I was. I was already listening to deep deep newer. Grab I love talking about the early nineties with you. Can we talk about the Calvin Klein ads for a second really really important? You're almost put these on my list. And it's and my honorable mention boxer briefs. Yeah I was still a boxer sky back then that was not interested in the product. Would you just tear the ads out of the magazine? Crumpled them up and throw them in the garbage. I think that the those are the signature moment in his career without the advertising campaign he would not have become weirdly Tom Like sub Tom Cruise but he you know. He soared to a of fame on that ad campaign. They're just extremely important. Ninety s imagery obviously came as also in them. And that's where the whole K. Moss thing starts Them Hating each other. Great early celebrity feud they're very important that's all and also it looks great. I mean he and his image was of basically like a tough guy with a bad attitude whether that was true or not he obviously got into some altercations and his his personal history is pretty complicated. We're not gonNA spend too much time talking about on this show. But I think that he basically leveraged his complicated persona in the public into a movie career and if you look at the first few movies that he makes replays these kind of like weird intimidating Undeveloped YOUNG MEN. You know in the basketball diaries in. Ryen Russillo favorite movie fear And even in boogie nights. There's something like violently adolescent about his his persona which is very different from the kind of actor and movie star that he is right now so a lot of times. I think that we could. You could write like a series of essays about how much actors of his generation have attempted to mimic the kind of like rough and tumble blue collar upbringing. That Walberg apparently had like how how often like DiCaprio Damon or these guys have tried to be like no I'm Jim Carroll and he's just a function Carol I'm the real thing but it's weird like even in his authenticity. If you WANNA call it that he still lacks like any kind of emotional intelligence or psychological depth to portraying those things and you could write all these essays. But you could just watch the departed. Because that's what this does that. Do you need that from an actor? Do you need to feel like this person is like in control and has that depth that Chris was talking about? I think I do ultimately. I think that there is a reason that I gravitate to Matt Damon instead of Wahlberg. And I think that you not just because of the departed and the Boston. Bill will talk about that a lot as a comparison but I like I said I really remember a lot of Walberg performances. Even though he's been given a lot of great ones and I think that's because they have a I don't WanNa say surface level. That's unfair. They're actually a lot of depth but they aren't the emotional depths and I think I personally don't hang onto those. I think I'm always wondering how in command of the Ark of his career. He is because you pointed out he makes he's. I mean he's just been a lot of great movies a lot of movies that are going to stand the test of time and it always seems like he's being cast the way that a lot of young actresses or cast as the. Nayef as the like the naive and innocent who gets corrupted when put into a system and like did someone in a room. Say That to him. This is your lane man will early like you think so. Well I just don't think that he I think he's largely in charge of the movies that he makes. Now he's like. I think that the movies that we see our movies that Mark Wahlberg once made for the most part and my suspicion is the reason he made that transition. Amanda was referencing about just mostly doing action. Comedy movies now is because those movies are more fun and easier to make for him there either like a physical challenge there like a day on the set whereas making boogie nights as hard Russell Smart. Yeah I think that he is both like sinking very strategically as the schedule would suggest and also like not over thinking it i. That's the VIBE. I guess sometime at the end of the day he's going like it very much is what it is. He is a very Surface level or just immediate actor. That's that's what you're getting and so I think he wants. He gets to produce the movies himself and make the decisions. You just kind of like. Yeah action comedies. Got There before we get into our top fives and I think we should figure out what we mean. When we say top five if it's five performances or his top five movies because there's some complexity. There is a very strange celebrity. The the nine eleven thing is you're staring right at. It's just hanging over my head as I think about him as a public person. So in twenty twelve Walberg was quoted in a magazine interview regarding. What would have happened if he had flown aboard American Airlines Flight? Eleven on September eleventh. Two thousand one. He'd been booked on a flight on flight. Eleven but his plans changed the day before the scheduled flight and he cancelled his reservation. Walberg received public criticism for stating quote. If I was on that plane with my kids it wouldn't have went down like it did and there would have been a lot of blood in that first class cabin and then me saying okay. We're going to land somewhere safely. Don't worry Warburg apologized for those statements. But they're actually the sort of thing that kind of inform his public persona and when we watch him in an action movie. We think that he's the kind of guy who's like I would have kicked some ass on nine eleven which I don't know if you like complicates the quality of the films that he makes but I can't get stuff like that. Outta my head once I've read or heard about it and I feel like we've referred back to it even in a joking fashion over the years right. Yeah it is definitely one of the top three things that I think about. When someone says Mark Wahlberg schedule yeah nine eleven yeah and the last night of prosthetic but like you know. I'm human beings. It's the point of the movie full movie as leading to that so yes I agree. It's funny he is both. I think very funny as a comedic actor like entirely humorless and it's that some things he's in on the joke on some things he's just kind of being like no I would have save. I would have stopped nine eleven. Which is just a ridiculous thing to say. And that's the joke of Andy Sandberg's say Heidi Mother for me. Yeah you know portrayal of him is this is like he's kind of total rube but also not. There's something very elusive about. Whatever's going on with an entourage thing it's like. Do you watch entourage because you think it's completely ridiculous or do you watch entourage because you think it's like six awesome representative drama and I dare to say that Mark Wahlberg is like Yup? That's how it went. I you probably think you're right. Insulin entourage Ari comes on and it's really like Whoa but most but he's like that's accurate me. Like Vince is very much living my experience. He's like we should make a show about it. I think. I think that you guys are right. Do you think that this should be five performances or top five movies I choose? I don't know I don't know where I landed. I think I did I tried to be interesting here but I I wouldn't say that any of these performances leap out at me except for my number one and number two as like excellent performances. They're more like movies. I really like was he ever given a truly great performance. Yes I I think. There's one and a half great performances on this movie and it's just a half is the end of boogie nights. No no I. Well that might be the case now. There's another movie I still did performances but I think they are. They are a little bit also an award for the movie knowing how best to use him right. Okay well then let's get into it. Let's go into our top five Mark Wilbur performances slash movies number five Amanda. Why don't you start us off? This goes out to Bill Simmons and apparently to right who I still have never met. Hello Ryan. I'm going with fear. Why not whow revisit? Yes I did okay okay seen Djing

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"shawn fantasy" Discussed on The Big Picture

The Big Picture

08:26 min | 8 months ago

"shawn fantasy" Discussed on The Big Picture

"Shawn Fantasy and this is the big picture. A conversation show about the wonders of movies and music. I have a very special show today later. In this podcast I have an interview with Robbie Robertson one of the founding members of the band a significant figure in movie history as well. Who HAS COLLABORATED WITH? Martin Scorsese over the years. He has a new documentary that he participated in the basically tells the story of his life and the work of the band called. Once were brothers so I hope you'll stick around for that and inspired by that conversation. I had to invite on Ringer Staff Writer Rob Villa. Who is one of the funniest and smartest people I know about music? I Rob She's we'll thank you. It's an honor to be here of course alot rob you write about music and movies at the ringer as well and quite deftly and I think the use of music in movies has always been frankly an obsession of mine and I suspect that you are also a sophisticated thinker about this idea. Is that fair to say? Sophisticated is a strong word. But let's go with your role with your a guy who has a functioning brain that watches movies with music in them. Is that fair to say Aisha's? Amd during sonic the HEDGEHOG. That's the way I would describe my relationship with music and movies me I was that guy I feel like there's a lot we know there's a there's a conscientiousness about choosing songs in movies now because we grew up watching scorsese movies and then the movies of all the people who watched. Martin Scorsese movies and start making movies of their own and so the use of the pop song. We're not talking about score here. We're talking about pop music appearing in films you know what is your. What is your sense of? Who Does it well and sort of what goes into making a good choice for something that's really obvious or really obscure. I think the obviousness I see a lot more in prestige. Tv generally like that's the plate. Like any use of radiohead. Almost across the board. Like I I like a lot of Westworld but just the way that Westworld is uses those pop songs you know the old style piano version of pop songs. It's just you're just sort of leaching off that songs energy like the the cash that it already has and you're just sort of stealing and implanting it into your TV show or your movie like it's there's a difference between stealing a song soul and like taking a song and building a new universe around it like sort of recreating it in re-energizing it it's a it's a great point. I'll never forget the moment I watched the pilot of Ozark. Which is the last the last episode of ours. Ozark that I've ever watched and at the end of it Decks dark by radiohead began playing and I was like. Oh this is that JOE now. I mean no disrespect to say Chris Ryan. Who's a huge fan of that series but actually that choice indicated to me what the creators of the show thought they were doing and it wasn't for me you know it just didn't Didn't click with what despite liking radiohead and Jason Bateman and. I knew that there was a pretentiousness that I was not going to connect with their What do you think makes for a good song choice in a movie? I think it has to be at least a little unexpected. It has to re- contextual. Is it a little bit like I? There are instances where obviousness is what you need and I think there are a few of those and my list here but I I think. In general you need some element of surprise some just more gratuitous are just more surprising way of using it than what you would expect. Do you think it's important to saying something about character or the scene itself or because one of the things that that Robertson said when he and I talked which I thought was interesting was the he really likes the contrast he moments. That's the moment when you take a very sweet song. Said it against a very violent moment or you take a very sweet moment and give it something more braces and that's obviously a hallmark of a lot of the people that are best known for choosing songs and movies you know. Think of Quentin Tarantino or fincher. Scorsese are all these people that I talk about endlessly on this show. Do you think that the that music can play such a profound role in telling a story in that way? I think so. I mean you can go too far in that the phenomenon of every movie trailer now using like a really slow down creepy version of a pop song like you think. Fight THE FI. The fifty shades of grey beyond say series. You know like I suicide squad. I think did that. You know you can go too far in that direction and and just use it entirely as irony like. Here's a really sweet song to contrast with an ugly thing. But Yeah I mean. That's that's sort of an overused tropes at this point at the time in the heyday in the early reign of those people those directors like. Yeah that was a really effective use of contrast. So we're here to do a top five list. You'RE GONNA share your five favorite needle drops in movies and I'M GONNA share my five favorite needle drops. Now I don't know your picks and you don't know my picks you almost ruined this podcast by accidentally sharing those picks and I would like you. I'm I apologize profusely and I apologize for my choices. I think this is going to be yelling at me in the next twenty minutes. That's my concern. You know what my concern is is just being too basic right. There are some things that are sort of undeniably signature moments in movies and music especially in the last twenty to twenty five years when when I think this phenomenon has really picked up. Steam and my choices are not songs that were written for movies. They are entirely songs that had previously existed before the film came along. Is that true for you too? I think in all but one case my number five. That's not true but I think that's an important thing that you have to have a prior. Ideally you have a prior relationship with that song that the movie changes. That's what makes a really good moment for me. Not all of them but that's the platonic ideal. I absolutely love that. I probably have one song that that is out runs an opposition to that idea. But that's a great call. So why don't we start? Why don't you give us your number? Five needle drop my leg. Twelve is four hundred black grape. So I could later. Replied is brick. Ross one hundred coffins. Django unchained twenty twelve. I want you to picture a rick. Ross Fan in twenty twenty it's Pete Townsend I would. This is a classic rock figure at this point. That is amazing. I am standing by this so I'll be one hundred percent honest with you. It's no secret how much I admire. Quentin Tarantino movies and his relationship to music. I think that this actually does not work at all. And it's one of the things that holds me back from truly loving Django unchained. Like I do all of his other movies. So make your case for why pudding Putting Mr Rosie in the middle of a of a slave rebellion story made worked for you it jumped in my mind immediately because I think to. Jangle might be my least favourite Quentin movie. It's my least favorite experience. I do not enjoy watching. This movie at all which I think is intentional. At least on some level I just I just cringe all the way through it and so this moment. This thirty seconds span is like my respite in the middle of the movie. This is my favorite scene in my least favourite Quentin Tarantino movie and. That's that's striking to me. I mean obviously there are fifty to one hundred viable Tarantino moments. Stuck in the middle with you. You know the Dell phonics and Jackie Brown which I just as easily could have said but it's so incongruous in so gratuitous and so wrong to have rick Ross at this exact moment that it's perfect within the context of a movie that for me strikes me entirely is like Retu- it's an incongruous and wrong like it's just it's my oasis in the middle of a masterfully unpleasant cinematic experience. Where would you say one hundred black? Coffins ranks in the Rick Ross Song inaugural top one hundred top one thousand. Wow Wow top five hundred. Let's compromise and say there are four hundred and ninety nine superior recross songs but still recross is five hundred best song. I will take over. Like whatever like will lose Everts Fifth Best Song Fair enough out of you and I were on the front lines of the Rick. Ross wars we should go and children all about it if it were b. m. f. and Django. I would've loved it. That's all I can say it'd be too much that'd be overly gratuitous feel free to interrogate my choices as well though. I don't think this first one will be well. Maybe maybe it's a little controversial. My first pick is not a song. I like the song placement. I find to be genius and that is I got you babe by Sonny and Cher from groundhog day..

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"shawn fantasy" Discussed on The Big Picture

The Big Picture

11:34 min | 9 months ago

"shawn fantasy" Discussed on The Big Picture

"Shawn Fantasy. This is the big picture. A conversation show about the Academy Awards. The time has come to predict the Ninety First Academy Awards. Amanda how are you feeling about this. I feel terrible as always I just. It's being wrong in public. It's my number one least least favorite thing. It's even worse than being wrong in private. We will closely tally. All of your failures on Oscar night. Because I'll be tweeting at you directly every time you get a choice wrong and then we'll also be rehashing. Those wrong choices here on the big picture live immediately. After the telecast which. I'm really excited about on Sunday night but before that we do you have to We have to pay it to the prediction. Gods and we're GonNa go through all twenty four categories here. Yes we are now. I'd like to preface that by saying as I worm my way through the back nine of illness. My voice may go at any moment here. In which case you're GONNA have to really carry the load cliff booth style okay. I was going to say that. That's just a good summation of Oscar season and at some point to talk myself out and officer does flailing filing in the dark possibly in silence. We're we're we're just trying to get to the finish line. I am hopeful that this will not be an immensely boring. podcast about predicting the Oscars because the Oscars may be boring. I will say this is by far far the easiest year in the history of my life predicting these awards okay. You know what. It's nice that you have confidence does not this and in life. Yes it is now that means okay. That means I couldn't logically see making any other choice that doesn't mean I feel that I am right okay about I guess I feel feel the same way. There were more categories that I could kind of fill in but I there are still so many to get wrong. It's just an opportunity to get things wrong. I can't had over emphasized how much I hate that. Feeling when you would finish an exam in ninth grade at the end of it when you and your classmates your little amend etes would would gather route and chat at the at the cafeteria table would you say. Would you be the person who would say. Oh my God I failed so bad. I didn't know anything. I failed. No okay okay no because I find that obnoxious and also because I had to have like my personal confidence that I was still going to defeat all of them. Were you sitting alone like a sociopath at the cafeteria table. No okay. I had some friends but I don't know we just talked about cross country or something. Well that sounds riveting okay. Let's go back to the Academy Awards. which which is the reason for this podcast? We're GONNA start at the beginning and at the place that we sort of blasphemed earlier on the show which is with shorts. I thought we were respectful. I I want people to go back. And listen and hear what we were saying which is not that they should be cut from the show and not that shorts aren't deserving but it is a different French exercise and I just think the it was interesting to try to get into the mind of what these winners would be because I think you're evaluating on different terms because it's a different type of film so let's just make a separate thing for the shorts and let everybody have their moment philosophically I agree. It's one of the few things about the sort of workaday nature of the Oscars that you and I ultimately agree on. There are three different categories for the shorts. There is best documentary short subject. Best Live Action Short film and Best Animated. We'll start with best documentary short subject. A very few people have seen these movies. I've seen some of them. I'm not going to pretend like I've seen all fifteen. Nominees Germany's shorts category. I just haven't I haven't had the time and I'm a bad person. I have had her but I have seen some of them I've seen some of them as well feel solid about. My choices will run through the the nominees for this first category in the absence by using John and Gary Byung Cam learning to skateboard in a war zone by Carol dicing her life overtakes me by Christine Samuelson. And John. Hatice Saint Louis Superman by Sri Mantra and sign ECON and walk run cha-cha by Lord. I think the overwhelming favorite favored in categories learning to skateboard in a war zone. As my pick that is awesome attack we can move on directly from there. Okay well I just don't think we should really make an attempt to talk about the quality control of these categories stories because we're just not the experts if you expertise are actually a ton of great pieces. I was reading some stuff on wire this week. About which of these shorts are serving which are not. There's a lot of great writing about the shorts. We respect the filmmakers acres. who made the shorts? It's not Medi Best Live Action Short Film Brotherhood by Mariam. Jabbour Nafta football club by the neighbors burs wooden window by Marshall Curry Saria by Bryan Buckley or sister by Delfin Gerard. I'm going with the neighbors Wendo. I want with Brotherhood. Okay that is the that's the oddsmakers favorite Brotherhood is. Yes yes so do you. Is there a reason why you you may may change. Because the neighbor's window is is the oddsmakers like upset favorite. What is that called? When it's the there's a favorite and then the underdog I guess so spoiler well in a group of five I was wondering anyway? It's number two and I think it's been in the conversation it's and it is accessible and and I just really do feel like especially people who are voting on these are sometimes just clicking through and being like oh I guess like this one I like to football club too and I feel like that has a chance I wouldn't wouldn't rule that out yet We'll have to wait and see. The oddsmakers are usually right in the shorts categories but it can't be guaranteed because these are highly unpredictable predictable because unlike a lot of the other words. We'll talk about here. There are not a lot of guild awards that predict these words. This is really the only three categories in which we have no no data to present ahead of what you know sort of what is leading the race. What is leading the charge? So we're flying blind quite a bit. which part of the reason why we're not gonNA spend too much time analyzing final category Gorriak shorts animated short To Sarah by Doria Kusturica hair. Love Matthew. Cherry Kit Bowl by Rosanna Sullivan memorable memorable by Bruno. Colette sister by CK Song Hair. Love is far and away. The favourite yes in this category. Matthew Cherry is very active twitter user. A lot of people know oh him used to work for Jordan Peele and monkey productions is a very short. I will be surprised this one out of all three. I would be the most surprised if it didn't win. I also picked love and it made me cry and under four minutes very effective I two can respond to animated films. Wow Yeah Erica. An incredible transition to our next category best animated animated feature the nominees are how to train your dragon the hidden world. I lost my body clause missing link and toy story for what did you go with. This was a last minute change and I. I don't know whether I should admit this. And the podcast bobby. Cut this if I'm breaking a Balazs but I haven't been advising a close best friend of mine on possible bets possible upsets and close friend. Yeah no it's it's a friend. The you know a friend who listens to the podcast and identified this category. I did go toy story for because I'm trying not to over. Think things but it does seem like it seems like there could be several no spoilers. Actually there's a lot of arrows pointing at clause right now. Yeah clause just won a BAFTA clause one Annie Award Clauses clearly admired tired. Mommy animating filmmaking community I don't WanNa Toy Story. Movies went to movies. Come out. That was kind of my reasoning toy story. Three was nominated for best picture which feels like a thousand years ago but this is truly one of the most storied movie franchises ever. This sounds like a silly thing to say about a toy story movie but it is a fact there have and four films are hugely successful. The characters are beloved ingrained in popular culture. And I genuinely think toy story. Four is very very very good animated film and might might mark the end of a certain period of Pixar because not just the machinations that have happened over the years with Disney but obviously all of the sort of incredibly fraught stuff. That's happened with John. LASSETER over the years in the development stage for these movies. It's just if you look at the Pixar movies that are coming There are a lot of new properties and there are a lot of new voices that are getting to make those movies toy story. Four is old school tried and true early. Two Thousand Steve Jobs Era Pixar. That's where it comes from and and I think they're going to recognize that we could be wrong. We're GONNA find out we're both going to a story for best documentary feature the nominees. Are American factory. The Cave you've the edge of democracy foursome and honey land. What did you choose? I chose American factory as that. I'm not feeling confident. I'm not either but I wanted to die on this hill because I love this film. We gave this film best picture we really did Alternate Oscars about that this morning and I was so happy. What a lovely little title space? That was where we just got to talk about the things we liked terrifically. Well made movie. I think All of the movies in this category are are well-made. I shouldn't be surprised by how overwhelmingly serious every film is in this category every year and how issues oriented a lot of these films are it's been interesting to see. I thought when the nominations were announced honeywood play spoiler spoiler the fact that it has representation in this category and also in the next category. We're GONNA talk about. It's just unusual. That's never happened before. And so that shows a lot of support for that movie. I thought that would play spoiler over the last couple of months. Foam seems to be gaining steam for some just one at the Baptist over the weekend. We'll have to wait and see my my choices also American factory. This is part of what I mean here about saying. This was an easy choice to make because it seems like a logical choice. It's an American story. Also International Scott Got Barack Obama's thumbprint on it which I think is key weirdly meaningful. You know we. We never talked about Kobe. Bryant's passing on the show and I don't think there's a ton of reason to but obviously. Kobe was an Oscar winner. And you know some people love his film but it was a lot easier to understand his film in the purposes of his film that won best animated short. I think it's called your basketball because this was connected to Kobe. Bryant and I think people will actually look at American factory and think of Barack Obama and correlate in the same way like that is how this business works in many ways. So I'm going American factory if you told me Any of these films were GonNa win. I genuinely would not be suppressed. Don't don't bet on this category advice this category also just the nominations itself were a bit of surprise is because Apollo eleven which had been so dominant at so many awards coming up to the nominations is not included. One Nation was also in the mix and is not included so it could go a lot of different ways and I guess my strategy throughout is has been to play it safe to go with the most obvious choice and that's important because it's been like a pretty obvious yes award season thus far but we could easily be wrong. The Oscars always has a couple of surprises as it always does now. I would prefer if those surprises happened in some of the later categories and then some of the earlier categories for the sake of national entry but in all likelihood this year they're going to come in categories like this let's go to best international feature a category will not have any surprises whatsoever. The five nominees are Corpus. Christi Honey Land Les Miserables Painting Glory Parasite Yes parasite will win this award. Award parasite is a winner. This is the not the last time. We'll talk about parasite on this podcast. We can continue to go forward great visual effects. This is the category that I like to call. Sean doesn't know anything I think I get this wrong every year. That's because you always pick marvel movies and they've never WANNA love moral. Yeah congratulations not not Without some questioning questions some of their choices and frankly their visual effects are sometimes not. I've never good.

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"shawn fantasy" Discussed on The Big Picture

The Big Picture

14:43 min | 10 months ago

"shawn fantasy" Discussed on The Big Picture

"One hundredth episode through watchable. podcast Quentin Tarantino returns the third and final movie and his three part series with us in the final episode. Bill Simmons Sean Fantasy discussed with Quentin one of his favorite movies. The nineteen ninety crime thriller came of of New York. Make sure to check out this special episode and follow at Three watchable on twitter for highlights of all one hundred episodes. I'm Shawn Fantasy and this is the big picture. A conversation show about the most most anticipated movies of twenty twenty men. And we've been talking all about the movies of Twenty Nine Thousand Nine on our various Oscars awards conversation shows. We need to look forward now. The reason we need to look forward is because new movies are opening and they're not these dingy horror movies that they try to open January third and trick people into thinking might be decent. Here's there's actual big budget studio movies with movie stars this weekend. We have little movie called doolittle and a little movie called bad boys for life. We've seen both of these movies. He's rolling GonNa talk about one today. We'll talk about the other one later next week. Hopefully you will have seen that other one after that but mostly we're GONNA be talking about movies. We don't really know that much about other than the names and the titles and we're talking about why we're looking forward to them. Let's talk about the big picture aspect of movie going in twenty twenty. I'll just say as I've mentioned at the end of the year last year. The little worried about who will people go to the movies this year. Do you think that I'm justified in my concern. One hundred percent. We talk about this on every other podcast that we make now for the big picture because moviegoing has been Ben. I don't even know if I WANNA say in a state of crisis but it has been changing and the way that people consume movies has been changing pretty rapidly and dramatically for several years now but this feels like the come to Jesus Year I agree so obviously twenty. Nineteen was deeply loaded especially by Disney with mega event movies. Not just the vendors endgame not just Star Wars Skywalker but the lion king and Aladdin reboots Dumbo reboot toy story. Four came through. There were a lot of movies. Movies that Disney at least perceived as moviegoing events now in addition to that we got a lot of great fun stuff we got once upon a time in Hollywood and parasite became a box office success. And we'll the four versus Ferrari and did very well. There's always going to be surprises. I would guess that the movies that we're going to talk about here and you're gonNA choose ten and I'm GONNA choose ten. They'll be some some big ASS. Hits hits among those movies but the movie is not the schedule is not loaded like it was last year. I think there will be a distinct or of panic panic around. What's going on at the box office? Pretty much by April or May I think we have our first taste of the panic. That's coming though. Yes yes so this week you and I saw the movie do little which stars Robert Downey junior as Dr Doolittle Let me say this movie is terrible. It is terrible will in a way that I have not experienced in my adult life and I was in a deep amount of pain watching it. I don't think you had negative reaction to the movies I did though well L.. This movie is very bad. Let's just get that affront if it is not a successful movie but I do kind of put on my. This is a kids movie helmet at some point eight and I think I'm not looking to be as rewarded on a deep emotional or cinematic level as you are or once. I realized that the movie is Robert. Downey junior talking to animated animals. Sure here's my thing. This movie makes cats look like grizzly man. Like it's really true. I think that I had a better time doolittle than I did at cats. That's astonishing still worst experience that I've pat movie in like five years. There was no plot and it was creepy people singing weird songs about what kind of cats they are I like I can't I know I've said exactly that five times but I will never wrapped my head around the fact that hundreds of people sought that that was a good idea. The wanting one thing. The cats and Dr Doolittle do have in common is that they are both based on previously existing Ip. There's been not one but two different iterations of Dr doolittle over the years. Of course the very famous nineteen sixty seven version with REX Harrison. And then Eddie Murphy came back as a doctor doolittle of sorts in the I believe in the early outs. This version has had some trouble in the reason. It is so bad ad will the reasons it is so bad manifold. Let's start with some of the production problems so in April twenty nineteen Hollywood reporter had a report about the struggles of the making of this movie. They wrote the new photography lasted twenty one shooting days not including new postproduction work according to insiders and came after an overhaul courtesy of Chris. McKay the helmer the lego Batman movie. Now Chris McKay was not the original director of this Dr doolittle movie which I believe was originally called the voyage of Dr Doolittle. Yes and it was written and directed directed by Stephen Geoghegan Listener. Stephen Geoghegan wrote and directed a movie called Syria which does not in any way resemble the story telling the joke writing the the general disposition of doolittle. Those two things have nothing to do with each other. It appears that Stephen Geoghegan was just a little bit out of his his depth in making a movie like this teach on report. Sources say that it's become apparent to the studio and producer. Susan Downey Joe Roff and Jeff Kirschenbaum. Last fall that the movie budget at one hundred and seventy five million dollars needed some surgery. Geoghegan is known for his Oscar. Winning work on layer dramas traffic and Suryana is his first time tackling visual effects heavy production. That was also comedic in tone own. Self they bring in these new folks Chris McKay among them. Also I believe the writer of the teenage mutant Ninja Turtles series was brought in to Do some script doctoring. Bring didn't help I don't think we need to recap necessarily story. It is technically a voyage. doolittle does go on a voyage. Why do you think they've changed the title? Because I have no idea. Maybe they're just hoping that if all you hear is little. Then you'll think of the other. Innovations I have Dr doolittle and then go see a movie when you say you. Who Do you mean? I people with children people who go to the movies. I don't know. Would you recommend this movie. The parents parents with children. I don't know what your life is like or what your parents rearing is like. I really don't. I don't know what you're looking for in a experience with your your children. We don't have to talk about the entire movie but can we talk about a couple qualitative issues with the film. Fire Way you turn to me about twenty minutes into this movie or maybe it was like seven minutes but it felt like twenty. It felt to me like nine hundred. And you pointed out aghast that Downey junior performance was dubbed not just align here there but literally his all of his voice work the entire film the entire fell. It's very obvious as you're watching the movie s and I also have to say the dubbing is. I turned back to you and asked whether other Robert Downey junior is supposed to be Scottish. or whether there were some troubling racist elements to his voice. It really is all over the place in not got a great way. So the dubbing does not achieve anything additive to the movie. We can only speculate what had happened. My guess is Robert Downey. Junior is an adventurous actor and he likes to. He likes to make choices certainly felt like he made a choice in the original shooting of this film used a certain voice or accent and then they the production decided. This isn't going to work now. It's possible that there was even a sort of production error like it wasn't properly recorded. Yeah that'd be incredible mismanagement of this movie. That's in play. But the other actors that appear in the movie and we should say a great many quality actors appear in this movie up chief among among them Michael Sheen doing his damnedest to play a compelling villain and my beloved. Jessie Buckley shows up in this movie. With two lines of dialogue. She sleeps on a bed. Basically throughout the film Talladega how. That is Jessie Buckley until about sixty minutes. And it's very strange. Antonio banderas shows up Antonio Matarese Oscar contender Antonio Banderas. Who is fine but none of those figures seem to be dubbed? They all seem to be using their natural speaking voices. And there's no eighty are in play here so the whole thing is just absolutely confounding and it is highly distracting as you're watching the movie every time you see Dr Doolittle onscreen and he is on screen all the time because he is the titular character. You're like why. Why is the track sink? Not Correct with the film. This is a film released by a major studio. How did how did this? Hundreds of million dollars spent on it. I don't really know it's it's it's staggering and an unfortunate You wrote down here that the dramatic climax of this movie is literally a Dragon Fart. Which is true spoilers? I guess I often as people in my generation do misuse the word literally. But in this case it's literally what what happens. It is literally what happens and I just I I was in and I was in pain in the eightieth minute of this movie. I was like God Damn Emmett. I'm supposed to be alive.

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The Most Anticipated Movies of 2020

The Big Picture

09:19 min | 10 months ago

The Most Anticipated Movies of 2020

"I'm Shawn Fantasy and this is the big picture. A conversation show about the most most anticipated movies of twenty twenty men. And we've been talking all about the movies of Twenty Nine Thousand Nine on our various Oscars awards conversation shows. We need to look forward now. The reason we need to look forward is because new movies are opening and they're not these dingy horror movies that they try to open January third and trick people into thinking might be decent. Here's there's actual big budget studio movies with movie stars this weekend. We have little movie called doolittle and a little movie called bad boys for life. We've seen both of these movies. He's rolling GonNa talk about one today. We'll talk about the other one later next week. Hopefully you will have seen that other one after that but mostly we're GONNA be talking about movies. We don't really know that much about other than the names and the titles and we're talking about why we're looking forward to them. Let's talk about the big picture aspect of movie going in twenty twenty. I'll just say as I've mentioned at the end of the year last year. The little worried about who will people go to the movies this year. Do you think that I'm justified in my concern. One hundred percent. We talk about this on every other podcast that we make now for the big picture because moviegoing has been Ben. I don't even know if I WANNA say in a state of crisis but it has been changing and the way that people consume movies has been changing pretty rapidly and dramatically for several years now but this feels like the come to Jesus Year I agree so obviously twenty. Nineteen was deeply loaded especially by Disney with mega event movies. Not just the vendors endgame not just Star Wars Skywalker but the lion king and Aladdin reboots Dumbo reboot toy story. Four came through. There were a lot of movies. Movies that Disney at least perceived as moviegoing events now in addition to that we got a lot of great fun stuff we got once upon a time in Hollywood and parasite became a box office success. And we'll the four versus Ferrari and did very well. There's always going to be surprises. I would guess that the movies that we're going to talk about here and you're gonNA choose ten and I'm GONNA choose ten. They'll be some some big ASS. Hits hits among those movies but the movie is not the schedule is not loaded like it was last year. I think there will be a distinct or of panic panic around. What's going on at the box office? Pretty much by April or May I think we have our first taste of the panic. That's coming though. Yes yes so this week you and I saw the movie do little which stars Robert Downey junior as Dr Doolittle Let me say this movie is terrible. It is terrible will in a way that I have not experienced in my adult life and I was in a deep amount of pain watching it. I don't think you had negative reaction to the movies I did though well L.. This movie is very bad. Let's just get that affront if it is not a successful movie but I do kind of put on my. This is a kids movie helmet at some point eight and I think I'm not looking to be as rewarded on a deep emotional or cinematic level as you are or once. I realized that the movie is Robert. Downey junior talking to animated animals. Sure here's my thing. This movie makes cats look like grizzly man. Like it's really true. I think that I had a better time doolittle than I did at cats. That's astonishing still worst experience that I've pat movie in like five years. There was no plot and it was creepy people singing weird songs about what kind of cats they are I like I can't I know I've said exactly that five times but I will never wrapped my head around the fact that hundreds of people sought that that was a good idea. The wanting one thing. The cats and Dr Doolittle do have in common is that they are both based on previously existing Ip. There's been not one but two different iterations of Dr doolittle over the years. Of course the very famous nineteen sixty seven version with REX Harrison. And then Eddie Murphy came back as a doctor doolittle of sorts in the I believe in the early outs. This version has had some trouble in the reason. It is so bad ad will the reasons it is so bad manifold. Let's start with some of the production problems so in April twenty nineteen Hollywood reporter had a report about the struggles of the making of this movie. They wrote the new photography lasted twenty one shooting days not including new postproduction work according to insiders and came after an overhaul courtesy of Chris. McKay the helmer the lego Batman movie. Now Chris McKay was not the original director of this Dr doolittle movie which I believe was originally called the voyage of Dr Doolittle. Yes and it was written and directed directed by Stephen Geoghegan Listener. Stephen Geoghegan wrote and directed a movie called Syria which does not in any way resemble the story telling the joke writing the the general disposition of doolittle. Those two things have nothing to do with each other. It appears that Stephen Geoghegan was just a little bit out of his his depth in making a movie like this teach on report. Sources say that it's become apparent to the studio and producer. Susan Downey Joe Roff and Jeff Kirschenbaum. Last fall that the movie budget at one hundred and seventy five million dollars needed some surgery. Geoghegan is known for his Oscar. Winning work on layer dramas traffic and Suryana is his first time tackling visual effects heavy production. That was also comedic in tone own. Self they bring in these new folks Chris McKay among them. Also I believe the writer of the teenage mutant Ninja Turtles series was brought in to Do some script doctoring. Bring didn't help I don't think we need to recap necessarily story. It is technically a voyage. doolittle does go on a voyage. Why do you think they've changed the title? Because I have no idea. Maybe they're just hoping that if all you hear is little. Then you'll think of the other. Innovations I have Dr doolittle and then go see a movie when you say you. Who Do you mean? I people with children people who go to the movies. I don't know. Would you recommend this movie. The parents parents with children. I don't know what your life is like or what your parents rearing is like. I really don't. I don't know what you're looking for in a experience with your your children. We don't have to talk about the entire movie but can we talk about a couple qualitative issues with the film. Fire Way you turn to me about twenty minutes into this movie or maybe it was like seven minutes but it felt like twenty. It felt to me like nine hundred. And you pointed out aghast that Downey junior performance was dubbed not just align here there but literally his all of his voice work the entire film the entire fell. It's very obvious as you're watching the movie s and I also have to say the dubbing is. I turned back to you and asked whether other Robert Downey junior is supposed to be Scottish. or whether there were some troubling racist elements to his voice. It really is all over the place in not got a great way. So the dubbing does not achieve anything additive to the movie. We can only speculate what had happened. My guess is Robert Downey. Junior is an adventurous actor and he likes to. He likes to make choices certainly felt like he made a choice in the original shooting of this film used a certain voice or accent and then they the production decided. This isn't going to work now. It's possible that there was even a sort of production error like it wasn't properly recorded. Yeah that'd be incredible mismanagement of this movie. That's in play. But the other actors that appear in the movie and we should say a great many quality actors appear in this movie up chief among among them Michael Sheen doing his damnedest to play a compelling villain and my beloved. Jessie Buckley shows up in this movie. With two lines of dialogue. She sleeps on a bed. Basically throughout the film Talladega how. That is Jessie Buckley until about sixty minutes. And it's very strange. Antonio banderas shows up Antonio Matarese Oscar contender Antonio Banderas. Who is fine but none of those figures seem to be dubbed? They all seem to be using their natural speaking voices. And there's no eighty are in play here so the whole thing is just absolutely confounding and it is highly distracting as you're watching the movie every time you see Dr Doolittle onscreen and he is on screen all the time because he is the titular character. You're like why. Why is the track sink? Not Correct with the film. This is a film released by a major studio. How did how did this? Hundreds of million dollars spent on it. I don't really know it's it's it's staggering and an unfortunate You wrote down here that the dramatic climax of this movie is literally a Dragon Fart. Which is true spoilers? I guess I often as people in my generation do misuse the word literally. But in this case it's literally what what happens. It is literally what happens and I just I I was in and I was in pain in the eightieth minute of this movie. I was like God Damn Emmett. I'm supposed to be alive in the world. A little community harrogate that his bad movie. But I think I said to you afterwards. It was no less sensical to me than say Melissa sent. And I think I probably turn to you more times during the listen to it was like what the hell is happening opening. And what are we serving like the children of America

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"shawn fantasy" Discussed on The Big Picture

The Big Picture

13:49 min | 10 months ago

"shawn fantasy" Discussed on The Big Picture

"I'm Shawn Fantasy and and this is the big picture. A conversation show about the Academy Awards. They're here. Amanda the Ninety Second Oscar. Nominations have arrived. How are you feeling bright and early on this Monday morning he I do love it? I don't I don't love being here this early. I was saying to you before before we started recording and it just felt like a disclosure before we get into this podcast. My outlook at this hour of the morning is never the best. WE'RE ARE GONNA be flying fast and loose. That's what happens when you record it seven thirty in the morning. We're going to do our best to not make any mistakes. Some mistakes were made by the academy however will be talking about some of them the snubs the surprises houses. Some of the Nice things that happened with the nominations this morning. It's it'll be a robust conversation about what will be happening on February ninth the Academy Awards. Yeah there are some good do things absolutely absolutely some baffling things. Where do you WANNA start? We start with the big picture. Big Picture let's do.

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"shawn fantasy" Discussed on The Big Picture

The Big Picture

13:49 min | 10 months ago

"shawn fantasy" Discussed on The Big Picture

"I'm Shawn Fantasy and and this is the big picture. A conversation show about the Academy Awards. They're here. Amanda the Ninety Second Oscar. Nominations have arrived. How are you feeling bright and early on this Monday morning he I do love it? I don't I don't love being here this early. I was saying to you before before we started recording and it just felt like a disclosure before we get into this podcast. My outlook at this hour of the morning is never the best. WE'RE ARE GONNA be flying fast and loose. That's what happens when you record it seven thirty in the morning. We're going to do our best to not make any mistakes. Some mistakes were made by the academy however will be talking about some of them the snubs the surprises houses. Some of the Nice things that happened with the nominations this morning. It's it'll be a robust conversation about what will be happening on February ninth the Academy Awards. Yeah there are some good do things absolutely absolutely some baffling things. Where do you WANNA start? We start with the big picture. Big Picture let's do.

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"shawn fantasy" Discussed on The Big Picture

The Big Picture

13:49 min | 10 months ago

"shawn fantasy" Discussed on The Big Picture

"I'm Shawn Fantasy and and this is the big picture. A conversation show about the Academy Awards. They're here. Amanda the Ninety Second Oscar. Nominations have arrived. How are you feeling bright and early on this Monday morning he I do love it? I don't I don't love being here this early. I was saying to you before before we started recording and it just felt like a disclosure before we get into this podcast. My outlook at this hour of the morning is never the best. WE'RE ARE GONNA be flying fast and loose. That's what happens when you record it seven thirty in the morning. We're going to do our best to not make any mistakes. Some mistakes were made by the academy however will be talking about some of them the snubs the surprises houses. Some of the Nice things that happened with the nominations this morning. It's it'll be a robust conversation about what will be happening on February ninth the Academy Awards. Yeah there are some good do things absolutely absolutely some baffling things. Where do you WANNA start? We start with the big picture. Big Picture let's do.

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The Snubs and Surprises of the 92nd Academy Award Nominations

The Big Picture

07:03 min | 10 months ago

The Snubs and Surprises of the 92nd Academy Award Nominations

"I'm Shawn Fantasy and and this is the big picture. A conversation show about the Academy Awards. They're here. Amanda the Ninety Second Oscar. Nominations have arrived. How are you feeling bright and early on this Monday morning he I do love it? I don't I don't love being here this early. I was saying to you before before we started recording and it just felt like a disclosure before we get into this podcast. My outlook at this hour of the morning is never the best. WE'RE ARE GONNA be flying fast and loose. That's what happens when you record it seven thirty in the morning. We're going to do our best to not make any mistakes. Some mistakes were made by the academy however will be talking about some of them the snubs the surprises houses. Some of the Nice things that happened with the nominations this morning. It's it'll be a robust conversation about what will be happening on February ninth the Academy Awards. Yeah there are some good do things absolutely absolutely some baffling things. Where do you WANNA start? We start with the big picture. Big Picture let's do it okay. Problem in the big picture do you. Yeah I mean maybe we'll start with the most honored movies that seems like the safest place to start first and foremost first and foremost the joker comes to us with eleven nominations now. Were you surprised now. I wasn't either. Let me tell you something about joker people in the academy love. I love that movie actors. They love it directors. We learned clearly. They love it craftspeople. They love it. Composers there in up and down the board and you've only got one acting nomination for this for walking Phoenix. So you can see how it's it's diversely. Spread across the entire voting body any significant takeaways from joker being the leading vote getter so to speak in this in this race. I didn't expect it to be the leading nomination. I think I expected that to go in nineteen seventeen which is a little bit recency bias and also just because I expected nineteen seventeen to grab every single technical nomination because that's it is Zayd technically accomplished movie so joker winning denominations thing is not what you want it is. It certainly changes the narrative. Maybe I mean it'll change what we talk about this morning. I don't know how much it changes the results on the on Oscar night. It's interesting. How as you prepared to speak about joker you pulled your hair back to a pony tail resignedly? I people know what I think about best and I want to stay right here and right now. It ain't going to change. I think that this is an intellectually bankrupt movie. I think it is the emperor's new clothes. I think that anyone and who thinks that this movie is better than parasite or once upon a time in Hollywood or little women are uncut gems has bad taste and doesn't know things about movies straight up and we can do that for for five weeks or we cannot. I'm at I don't really have the energy to do it for that long. Yeah I don't think that that's I don't think we'll be negotiating that until the movie potentially wins Best Picture which you know not always as the most nominated film the likely best picture winner but sometimes it does happen. Tends to happen with noisy movies. Like Lord of the Rings the return it at King Joker ochre is kind of a noisy movie. This is a billion dollar movie and having this many nominations having this kind of box office having this kind of awareness and having this kind of admiration from from the screen actors is. That's a pretty significant thing. So if we saw a joke best picture win on February ninth. I wouldn't be shocked. I don't know if that's what I'm ready ready to predict at this point but I wouldn't be shocked. I neither and in a lot of ways. It makes a huge amount of sense in terms of the academy has refused to WHO ACKNOWLEDGE COMIC book movies or Superhero Movies for years the academy has been trying to update itself to chew reward new types of movies too like to be current to be younger and that the end of the day the score says he caused play. Look it's tiny. Batman man movie winning Best Picture would be academy esque thing to do. It's true and it would be one year after Black Panther which sort of ushered in a lot of these conversations. What else has been honored here once upon a time in Hollywood and parasite the Irishman? You've mentioned those ten nominations for each movie. I don't think a huge surprise there for once upon a time in the Irish Ryan parasite is excuse me once upon a time in the Irishman ten as nineteen seventeen. Let's just talk about those first four gets parasite and I think that is. This is kind of standard operating procedure seizure. What we've got here is three people who made films who have been hugely recognized in the past Quentin Tarantino? Martin Scorsese Mendis as you said the reasons he buys of nineteen seventeen creeping innocent all weekend thinking nineteen seventeen the presumptive frontrunner for best picture. I don't know if I still feel that way right now. A couple of little chinks in the armor that will take a look at identify whether or not that's still the case any big time takeaways from the ten NAM's for all three of those movies are taking things for granted I am. I know that I'm taking granted. It's fantastic once upon a time in Hollywood got ten nominations. It's fantastic. They got ten movies. Nineteen seventeen very impressive movie. We're GONNA talk more about it later this week. It is less surprising that got ten nominations. You know I I saw someone on twitter describing this as a real like wars and cars years which every year at the academy is that you know the nineteen seventeen is the war part of that but very well made movie I it. So that's good. We shouldn't immediately jumped to all of the griping even though I certainly have and the reason I did that is because Joe got eleven nominations and I really don't WanNa talk about it this early in the morning but there are a great films that are being recognized there are among them is also parasite and little women both of which pulled in six nominations. Yes which is interesting. I am not surprised by either of those things but it is. It is a credible accomplishment. And I think a Lotta people on any kind of film. Twitter sense are frustrated by some of the joker recognition ignition but parasite getting six Oscar. Nominations is insane it is. There is no precedent in ninety one consecutive Oscar categories or excuse me ninety one consecutive Oscars for something like this happening so I take some solace in parasites success. So far I live is my favorite film of the year or was it. Yeah I think I put it at number one very early. It's definitely up there and put it on my decade. Let's no this is an amazing film and like and Bongino hoping direct nominated for best director. That's very exciting. And you are completely right that it was it has become such a quote lock or we we we were so sure of it that we are not like Kinda rejoicing especially in the parasite of it. All little women is the same way. There are a a couple notable omissions in the little women. Nominations that maybe put a sleigh damper on it which we will talk more about but you know it did get nominated for best picture. Sure thank the Lord. I thought that was the one where I was. Just GonNa not show up this morning.

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The Snubs and Surprises of the 92nd Academy Award Nominations

The Big Picture

10:16 min | 10 months ago

The Snubs and Surprises of the 92nd Academy Award Nominations

"I'm Shawn Fantasy and and this is the big picture. A conversation show about the Academy Awards. They're here. Amanda the Ninety Second Oscar. Nominations have arrived. How are you feeling bright and early on this Monday morning he I do love it? I don't I don't love being here this early. I was saying to you before before we started recording and it just felt like a disclosure before we get into this podcast. My outlook at this hour of the morning is never the best. WE'RE ARE GONNA be flying fast and loose. That's what happens when you record it seven thirty in the morning. We're going to do our best to not make any mistakes. Some mistakes were made by the academy however will be talking about some of them the snubs the surprises houses. Some of the Nice things that happened with the nominations this morning. It's it'll be a robust conversation about what will be happening on February ninth the Academy Awards. Yeah there are some good do things absolutely absolutely some baffling things. Where do you WANNA start? We start with the big picture. Big Picture let's do it okay. Problem in the big picture do you. Yeah I mean maybe we'll start with the most honored movies that seems like the safest place to start first and foremost first and foremost the joker comes to us with eleven nominations now. Were you surprised now. I wasn't either. Let me tell you something about joker people in the academy love. I love that movie actors. They love it directors. We learned clearly. They love it craftspeople. They love it. Composers there in up and down the board and you've only got one acting nomination for this for walking Phoenix. So you can see how it's it's diversely. Spread across the entire voting body any significant takeaways from joker being the leading vote getter so to speak in this in this race. I didn't expect it to be the leading nomination. I think I expected that to go in nineteen seventeen which is a little bit recency bias and also just because I expected nineteen seventeen to grab every single technical nomination because that's it is Zayd technically accomplished movie so joker winning denominations thing is not what you want it is. It certainly changes the narrative. Maybe I mean it'll change what we talk about this morning. I don't know how much it changes the results on the on Oscar night. It's interesting. How as you prepared to speak about joker you pulled your hair back to a pony tail resignedly? I people know what I think about best and I want to stay right here and right now. It ain't going to change. I think that this is an intellectually bankrupt movie. I think it is the emperor's new clothes. I think that anyone and who thinks that this movie is better than parasite or once upon a time in Hollywood or little women are uncut gems has bad taste and doesn't know things about movies straight up and we can do that for for five weeks or we cannot. I'm at I don't really have the energy to do it for that long. Yeah I don't think that that's I don't think we'll be negotiating that until the movie potentially wins Best Picture which you know not always as the most nominated film the likely best picture winner but sometimes it does happen. Tends to happen with noisy movies. Like Lord of the Rings the return it at King Joker ochre is kind of a noisy movie. This is a billion dollar movie and having this many nominations having this kind of box office having this kind of awareness and having this kind of admiration from from the screen actors is. That's a pretty significant thing. So if we saw a joke best picture win on February ninth. I wouldn't be shocked. I don't know if that's what I'm ready ready to predict at this point but I wouldn't be shocked. I neither and in a lot of ways. It makes a huge amount of sense in terms of the academy has refused to WHO ACKNOWLEDGE COMIC book movies or Superhero Movies for years the academy has been trying to update itself to chew reward new types of movies too like to be current to be younger and that the end of the day the score says he caused play. Look it's tiny. Batman man movie winning Best Picture would be academy esque thing to do. It's true and it would be one year after Black Panther which sort of ushered in a lot of these conversations. What else has been honored here once upon a time in Hollywood and parasite the Irishman? You've mentioned those ten nominations for each movie. I don't think a huge surprise there for once upon a time in the Irish Ryan parasite is excuse me once upon a time in the Irishman ten as nineteen seventeen. Let's just talk about those first four gets parasite and I think that is. This is kind of standard operating procedure seizure. What we've got here is three people who made films who have been hugely recognized in the past Quentin Tarantino? Martin Scorsese Mendis as you said the reasons he buys of nineteen seventeen creeping innocent all weekend thinking nineteen seventeen the presumptive frontrunner for best picture. I don't know if I still feel that way right now. A couple of little chinks in the armor that will take a look at identify whether or not that's still the case any big time takeaways from the ten NAM's for all three of those movies are taking things for granted I am. I know that I'm taking granted. It's fantastic once upon a time in Hollywood got ten nominations. It's fantastic. They got ten movies. Nineteen seventeen very impressive movie. We're GONNA talk more about it later this week. It is less surprising that got ten nominations. You know I I saw someone on twitter describing this as a real like wars and cars years which every year at the academy is that you know the nineteen seventeen is the war part of that but very well made movie I it. So that's good. We shouldn't immediately jumped to all of the griping even though I certainly have and the reason I did that is because Joe got eleven nominations and I really don't WanNa talk about it this early in the morning but there are a great films that are being recognized there are among them is also parasite and little women both of which pulled in six nominations. Yes which is interesting. I am not surprised by either of those things but it is. It is a credible accomplishment. And I think a Lotta people on any kind of film. Twitter sense are frustrated by some of the joker recognition ignition but parasite getting six Oscar. Nominations is insane it is. There is no precedent in ninety one consecutive Oscar categories or excuse me ninety one consecutive Oscars for something like this happening so I take some solace in parasites success. So far I live is my favorite film of the year or was it. Yeah I think I put it at number one very early. It's definitely up there and put it on my decade. Let's no this is an amazing film and like and Bongino hoping direct nominated for best director. That's very exciting. And you are completely right that it was it has become such a quote lock or we we we were so sure of it that we are not like Kinda rejoicing especially in the parasite of it. All little women is the same way. There are a a couple notable omissions in the little women. Nominations that maybe put a sleigh damper on it which we will talk more about but you know it did get nominated for best picture. Sure thank the Lord. I thought that was the one where I was. Just GonNa not show up this morning. Yes so there's something interesting about the parasite. Nominations to be one is that the film was recognized in both best editing and best production design. which are you know? Chris categories and on the one hand that's kind of impressive and shows a broad sense of support amongst the academy. No acting nominations for the movie though. Oh No song-ho none of the other actors in the film were recognized. There's a maybe a case to be made that this is a kind of acknowledgement of like a film mastery mastery but maybe not the same kind of Hollywood is star mastery. That movie like the Irishman or once upon a time in Hollywood receives. I'm not sure where I fall on that. I think it does feel like progress to me to some extent the little women thing you make a fair point which is that on the one hand brilliantly made movie with wonderful performances. It's great that it's nominated for best picture as well. The absence of Greta Gerwig In the best director category something. We'll talk about a little bit more here on kind of what that means. It's kind of dangerous to draw mega conclusions from the Academy Awards. There's only eight thousand people in this group and a lot of them are old and weird so you can't we don't this is even though. This is the sort of the definitive document of movie history story in terms of achievement. It is one of the wonkfest award recognizing bodies in the in the world Academy President David Rubin noted that what makes makes this special is that this is the people who make movies voting on. What is the best movies? And that's part of what makes the ostrich great that's part of what makes them kind of terrible is because there's an insularity into some of this. The parasite recognition is something that makes me think. Maybe this isn't such an insular body anymore. Maybe there are a lot of international voters. Maybe this is changing changing. Maybe the the way that we look at international movies changing in our American culture. I think that's certainly true. And I and I do think that the economy trying to change itself and how we talked about the movies has evolved enough that we were starting in a place where we expected parasite to be nominated expected. Little women to be nominated we were talking about whether uncut cut gems would make an end and the fact that. We're all kind of bummed out about the fact that uncut gems got snubbed. which it your? Maybe you're not supposed to use the word snob in that context. But let's use it always it got snuck. Uncut gems was snubbed and that I think that that in does indicate some some progress wrestle. Change some different lineup than we would have had five years ago and a different approach to the movies on the flip side we can. We can only only addressed the world that we live in. And I do feel because we've been having these conversations for awhile and because it was such an exciting year in a year that has parasite parasite the Irishman once upon a time in Hollywood uncut gems. Little women the farewell. What am I forgetting? I mean all kinds of movie. Sure but you know all vendors and games okay shirt KAZAM. Great Active Pika Chew. Well that was this does I can't help but feel that. This is a disappointing configuration of of that list of movies. It's not totally disappointing. But there is something of. We got our hopes up enough. They are kind of like. Oh yeah this is still the academy. And they're still going to be a lots of nominations for the more traditional types of movies

"shawn fantasy" Discussed on The Big Picture

The Big Picture

14:42 min | 10 months ago

"shawn fantasy" Discussed on The Big Picture

"Down with Greta. Gerwig to talk about her new film little women on the big picture and Adam Sandler and Kevin Garnett appeared on the Bill Simmons. PODCAST talk about the newest film. Uncut gems happy new year from the ringer. I'm Shawn Fantasy. This is the big picture a conversation show about the seventy seven. Th annual golden in global wards. Amanda here we are once more. We think we know what we're talking about. Enter these things with great confidence even knowing that the Golden Globe boards are famous famously. wonky messy goofy silly stupid and they have shocked us once more. Nineteen eighteen seventeen has won best drama. which I don't think either one of US predicted we in fact you did not pick that I think we thought all four of the other contenders had a good story story? I I do want to say you and I washed together and you. I believe pitched picked joker on our podcast Dixie Irishman. And at one point you shared with me that your wife was going with marriage story and and we watched a two popes commercial and I was like well it could be two popes and you said you. We've now talked about the possibility party of four of the five winners which means it'll probably be nineteen seventeen now. Look you and I are very lucky to have these jobs. We are but I do not claim to know anything like. I'm just going to put this on the table here. I don't I don't know anything. I know people who knows stuff but I don't know anything and this is an example of having any confidence about doing any of this stuff. I thought a lot of Adam. Sandler's character from uncut gems. When that moment happening where I was like this is what must be like to be an awful gambler? I think I went like four for fourteen tonight. Some brutal number. I think you and I are luckily tied at four hundred fourteen. I just WanNa remind you that I very confidently set on the podcast. I I think I got four wrong. That's true and I thought that would have been impressive. It's only get four rowing and four wrong would have been absolutely extraordinary. You would have been going straight to the damn. Am Bank on forum is tough interesting. Telecast tonight I actually thought it was quite a dull show for most of it. There were some head-scratching picks. There were some entertaining speeches. Let's let's we'll get back to nineteen seventeen and all the races. We'll go through race by race but before we do that. Let's just talk. About the telecast itself Ricky Gervais returned earned as the host fifth time he brought a a unique energy the show this year an energy I would describe as fuck all. He really did not seem to care. Think he literally did describe it as that multiple times when he told the audience to go fuck themselves. He was mercilessly bleeped. Throughout out the night He really had the attitude of a person who would be happy to be anywhere else but at this award show I'll be honest. I know it's not cool to set kind kind of enjoyed it you did I. I kind of enjoyed it not because I thought he was funny or useful but just because it was different. I've never really seen that before. There was a train wreck vibe to it you. You kept cackling at like you. Would just he would say something and it would be silent and then and then you would react to the fact that nothing was happening but him just like melting down. I love the idea of people who work at network or a famous person in the audience watching just like quietly recoiling at everything happening onstage on stage. There's something kind of joker ask about that and I I thought your race was kind of like fake provocative. Most of the night and a lot of the jokes. We're kind of like ooh look at me but not actually with anything deep to say about anything which is a lot of his humor in the last five to ten years but he definitely succeeded in bringing just the sheer shear nihilism to the performance. Yeah and I thought that was the one thing that was a mistake. I don't really care about Ricky Gervais xl. I didn't think he was very funny but I wasn't offended ended. My main thought process there is monologue was like oh I really don't like comedy like I don't like the active comedy or anyone who thinks that they're a comedian. It's just like not for me so you know. Yeah that's that's how I spent my time tonight but bio for you by the way comedy. Not For me. It's really not just don't care. I don't think it's funny but I agree that the show is boring and it felt like purposeless a lot of the time and some of that you remarked as we were watching all the commercials for like whatever weird. NBC Plane Show. They were debut and it would say when it was airing on NBC would say like an streaming the next day and there were commercials for Peacock. Doc and Amazon and ethics and all of the platforms and it was just very clear that this is a network. TV like dying right in front of our eyes yes it was a stegosaurus. Soroush slowly falling to its dinosaur needs so hiring someone to stand up on stage and be like this doesn't matter on the one on hand it's true it really doesn't. It's very putting his finger on the truth of the thing but you know they're still trying to get people to watch the show for three hours in order to cover. The advertising is and and to save their network and it I just did. Your Vase just reminded me of like this. Like this is an outdated form like. This actually has no relevance it didn't make me feel feel bad about committing my time to it though for some reason maybe that's just a six drain of my personality. But I I never felt like well I do. Think the show at Townsville purposeless. I didn't think think that his like ruthlessly blase approach to everything. I I just I. I liked it. There was. It was not the same old like back patty glad handing and and also the same Tina fey and amy poehler ask like were above it but will also do the show Biz dance thing you know that. That was raised a characteristic of their three times hosting. I think all of which were pretty fantastic. I I love them as hosts but the tonality of their hosting was always like. Isn't this stupid but also I will perform for it. This was the first time I ever saw anybody in this job. Go like fuck it. I don't care yeah I guess that's interesting as a one one time thing. I don't think you can ever do it again. Right couldn't run it back. Yeah and he swore up and down that he would not be back. I just I understand that reaction. I spent the whole time being like I'm being reminded so many different ways that I have complete control over what I want to watch now and what I content I want to take in and I just. I really really don't need to be listening to ricky surveys right now. which is now because she was defending me or because he was spectacularly unfunny? I was like I don't need this it's a great point I wonder how what what percentage of humans who are watching television. I chose actively to just throw on a streaming service instead of watch this award. Show which is what they would have done. Yeah say fifteen years ago to fascinating thing anything else else to say about your vase. I mean he really just gave his monologue and then came out. And kinda deep side his way through a couple of introductions and that was really the whole show that is true I they will say that the only kind of provocation that I was like I'll give him credit for or the I will remember is every time he would just yell back at the audience. Yes.

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2020 Golden Globes Predictions

The Big Picture

11:09 min | 10 months ago

2020 Golden Globes Predictions

"I'm Shawn Fantasy and this is the big picture of conversation show about predicting the results of an award show do not respect. That's right Amanda. The Golden Globes are nearly here. They are the conclusion of one of the more fun weekends of the year. We'll have NFL wild card weekend starting and then Dispatch the sped award. Show Fun for you nightmare for me. I will go straight from the eagles which my husband is too invested in into ricky surveys haltingly. Golden gloves so prepare for Sunday night attitude from Amanda yes I will be preparing for a weird attitude likely from ricky traverse one of the more more unusual figures to host an award show in the last ten or twenty years. He's back hosting Golden Globes. Were going to be predicting the results of some of these races which are chosen by ninety anyone mysterious foreign journalists Jervis was selected by these people to host the show in part because he has been the host of some successful editions of the Golden Globes. Last year was a different kind of Golden Globes humira call was hosted by Andy Sandberg and Sandra did not recall that. Until you said just now I think that I thought that that it was going to signal a new way forward for the Golden Globes. I don't know not necessarily a more progressive way forward but just the different kind of approach to hosting Alaska races back. What's your take on these days? Why are we still doing this? That every that's kind of where I am. I just like no thanks. I've moved on. I think we as a TV and awards. Washing washing community have moved on feels stale and it and he's feels like just kinda trying to hold onto whatever influence he had like ten years ago he still has a huge following and I think he's still a very successful comedian per se but he feels very fake controversial as a professional. Now where sort of everything he does is more of a provocation than a joke. which is not really where you WANNA be now famously on this award show? He's quite sharp elbowed he takes shots at celebrities as opposed to patting them on the back as many Golden Globes hosts have in the past I guess this is fine. I you know you think like what happens. When crosses the line and we have an outrage moment how will we handle that in this otherwise very convivial award show? I don't think people will care either will be the requisite op-eds or takes or whatever and perhaps that will distract from whatever terrible awards. The Hollywood foreign press gives out You know and maybe we'll put all of our anger into that and then we can just have an award. It's show maybe that's maybe it's a nice way of of dividing the components. Do you think we're queudrue vase was up for the joker and joker think he was auditioning against Joaquin now down He. He was auditioning for the Penguin. You know in the new one because everyone wanted to be the penguin You know this is a movie podcast broadcast but there are also a bunch of TV awards at the Golden Globes I. I haven't really paid much attention to the TV awards nor will be really prognosticating but yovany any sense of what's going. Go down here. TV was what were the big shows. Twenty nine thousand nine six session and fleabag will though shows win awards. What succession might succession session is nominated in drama along with big little lies the crown killing eve and wait for it then learn? They say that I watched the last year in the morning. Show who do not believe on the critics who came late to it and we're like wow the morning show is really become an investigation of me. Too Culture friends a dog wrote the last so it's more nutshell but anyway I still watched all of it. You could see it winning but you could also ASSOC- You know the crown seems like a very obvious when you can also see succession winning because the Golden Globes likes especially in the TV area to To get out ahead of the emmys succession has not yet won the major Emmy Award. This would be an announcement of succession as sort of the next great television. Show on Prestige Steve Cable. Whether that's still the case given the way that Netflix Amazon and all the other streamers have kind of barreled through the doors now is it will be interesting to see You know this. This is really weird. Best TV drama actress Jennifer Aniston. Olivia Colman Jody comber Nicole. Kidman Reese Witherspoon. Two nominations for the morning show. There are more billy crap. He's nominated for the morning show. If Billy Krupp wins for the morning show I take back half of everything I've said sad about the Hollywood Foreign Press Association is very strange. Maybe that's enough on TV awards. What else do we really want to make any sense things for succession fleabag everything else? I don't really care about. Let's let's start with something movie wise that I think is very relevant to this show. Do you think that this award show in. General is impactful on the the Oscar narrative in general or this year. Well let's start with in general. Yes I do because it just seizes attention and for a certain amount of time at a crucial moment and the awards are as much about attention economy as they are anything else. There are a lot of movies to see. There are a lot of voters who haven't quite quite caught up and I'm like oh I guess I should check this out and and sometimes I think it's reactive. Something wins and people are like I don't know about that. I'm GonNa make sure that I invest the other way but there isn't a fanfare around it. Everyone shows up for these. And it's televised and I just think the timing especially you can't help even if you're like this doesn't matter. I'm an ignoring it. We spend so much time talking about it. I do think it matters so last year of course Green Book won best drama and Bohemian. Wraps he won best musical or comedy though. I would argue. That Green Book is a comedy and Bohemian. rhapsody is neither a musical comedy drama. Those two films obviously competed heavily in one quite heavily heavily at the Academy Awards. Do you think that the results this year will sincerely affect the Oscars. Yes because the award season is much shorter this year. Nominations are in what voting begins today. That's that's insane. That's it's so fast and it's so compressed and I do feel like everyone is feels like if they're playing catch up. I'm still playing catch up on a couple of the Non Marquee categories. And I just think people will use this as a bellwether and also has an instruction action will of okay. Now I gotta go watch these three or I didn't like that this one so I'm going to do this. I don't know that it's one to one but yeah I think they're important. Would you argue that this is the most consequential Golden Globes in recent years. I guess so. Yes how strange. How strange I who have devoted so much of our lives to this it is? How do we let this happen? And I think you and I talked about at this early in the morning when the nominations were announced of. How have we allowed this group of people who tweeted airlines to become the major Oscar deciders? It's a very curious thing. Sometimes they do get stuff right. Yeah and sometimes they do vote in a manner that I think suggests like a clear lear narrative will be taking hold on something you know this year. There's an expectation. I'm getting ahead of myself. There's an expectation that Brad Pitt will win supporting actor. Brad Pitt is the consensus sensus favorite among almost every person. I've talked to to win best supporting actor that may not ultimately be the case. Maybe Al Pacino comes by. Maybe Joe Patchy comes by maybe Anthony Hopkins uh-huh bye-bye who knows it's a stacked category but among all the punditry for both the Oscars and the Golden Globes that I've read everyone agrees it's Brad Pitt. A part of that is because he's Uber famous and the famous is usually awarded here also the ingenue is usually awarded here. The morning show is sort of an ingenue at the at the Golden Globes this year. Wow maybe maybe a young performer. Who has never been who's never had a chance to win something before we'll also win here tonight to start with our predictions? Yes okay the first category. We're GONNA talk about his best motion picture foreign language now. This is notable because there is no universe in which this can reflect the Oscar nominations because there are two candidates here from France so are can also with a farewell will not qualify as foreign language. The first nominee is the Farewell Pedro Motive Painting Glory. Selena Gomez portability fire Bongino host parasite and lodge lease loomis Where was your heart? Tell you about this category category. I think this has to be parasite I think so too but okay international body. They've chosen to films is from France and they've basically chosen in American production a CO production and the farewell which is very popular seen by a great many people. They've been campaigning quite a bit. Yes also Pedro Almodovar's all trail possibly the most celebrated non-american filmmaker of the last twenty years. Twenty five years. Maybe it'd be overstating it he's in certainly in the conversation top five. That's all true. All Great Films Parasol is not eligible in either a drama or best picture drama or best picture a comedy Because it's forty which because that's how the Golden Globes work and Bongino is nominated for director and parasite is also nominated for screenplay I wish to signals to me that they really like parasite and this is the place where they can award parasite so you put your finger on something interesting. which is that people tend to look at the number of nominations especially amongst the small body like this as a clear indication of preference over other movies so once upon a time in Hollywood us five nominations at the Golden Globes? That must mean. It's a front runner in every category. Do you think that's true. Not In every category but I think that it means that there is interest in the film and that it will probably win something. I'm also kind of triangulating and and my picks because I don't think I think that they do try to actually sprinkle out awards among the movies that they do like so new spoilers but like I think this parasite parasite will triumph because it may not want other places interesting. I too am going with parasite. I think it would be insane to not go with parasite though I will be devil's advocating my way through this whole conversation. It's always voiced finds you podcast and live life with you Sean. Best motion picture animated amandus fever category frozen to how to train your dragon. The hidden world missing link Toy Story. Four and the Lion King which I find to be the funniest nomination here because the lion king was not submitted as animated feature to the Academy Nevertheless LS Globes has decided to nominate here. I would think twice. Sorry for yes I think that would be the only answer okay. I think that's the only truly beloved loved Film on this lineup. I think that's the only both critical and commercial success that tends to be the kind of wins. Best animated feature which is one of the more interesting features Church of the animated feature categories to me. Is that very rarely do films that are not commercially successful win there but all also also. You can't just be commercially successful. You have to be a masterpiece in the zone which is why pigs are winding picks ours when one almost every year at the Golden Globes since its inception except for last gear when Dino at one now I suck Spiderman Song. Oh Yeah that was a good movie. I was a great toy story. Four th. That's boring category. Hopefully they put that one up

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"shawn fantasy" Discussed on The Big Picture

The Big Picture

10:46 min | 1 year ago

"shawn fantasy" Discussed on The Big Picture

"I'm shawn fantasy and this is the big picture a conversation about where bernadette went. Where's she going into. That's a great question. There are many answers to that there are we're going to get into those questions and answers well. Maybe some of the answers not all the answers necessarily. The answer is very obvious. That's what's the problem okay. We'll get there good point later in the show. We'll have a conversation with the filmmaking trio radio silence. They have a new action thriller horror comedy called ready or not that is a really really fun film coming from fox searchlight this week so stay tuned for that but first amid is back from vacation amanda how was hawaii it is a great state enjoyed a lovely time. I really we were on the island of quiet which was is always beautiful. I recommend it. Thank you to everyone inqui- including pierce brosnan. Who was there wow we didn't see him but he lives on kauai and i we were definitely like using his instagram to you. Now go to various beaches and there was like a new market that opened g stocks pierce brosnan pretty much. I you actually did was my husband because he was like i'd like to go to this market arquette where it because pierce brosnan and jason momoa. We're hanging out together. Who am i god island like on the north shore where we were and then my husband was like we gotta go see what this is about. You think those two guys are friends. We try to figure this out actually. Have they been in a movie together or is it just kind of famous famous people on the north shore of hawaii kinda come together they had played golf which i think also sparked my husband's interest in golf. We don't know if they had played together. Do they play golf all together and then they were having drinks afterwards. This is fascinating t._v. Market on the north shore which new you know what this means this means. Lisa bonet was also in hawaii. We didn't see her. What a shame. Anyhow we're here to talk about movies and movie stars. This weekend was an interesting weekend at the box office and here's why in a movie that it was not a sequel and not a superhero movie was number one and it was not blinded by the light the bruce springsteen owed food from grinder chata who we spoke to last week and it was not the aforementioned. Where'd you go. Bernadette richard linklater's new movie. It was a movie called good boys which i'm almost one thousand percents earn when you have not seen. I haven't seen it in part because you waved me off it. I saw this movie south by south west and i just didn't think it was great. It was bad. I just didn't think it was great and on the other hand when i saw our boss bill simmons sharing his son ben's takes on the movie i realized that of course there is a huge judge market for a movie like good boys in that market is thirteen year old boys which is the audience of many movies in fact most successful movies in the world are seen by thirteen eighteen year old boy so i shouldn't be surprised by this weekend's outcome. I assume you weren't either no. I think it was very clearly not for me which is fine. We movies are for different people people. It's one of the joys of living in this current age that there's something for everyone <hes> it was very clearly not my interest and it's also not surprising that the thing for thirteen year old boys is made money. That's the world we live in and this is just kind of like a very clarified version of that yeah and it seemed like a particular underlying beneath the <hes> struggles of book smart which is theoretically shooting at the same audience but didn't quite have the same level of success now. There may be some reasons for that may have been some marketing differences france's between say they sold books marcus good boys. There may have been some gender differences. I haven't seen the demographic breakdowns of these two movies but whereas good boys is basically super super bad but pre highschool book smart was super bad but female and i think that that's at least notable yes. I read one break box office breakdown that said it was over fifty percent men who went to see this movie which is not surprised. I seems plus. I don't wanna ed. I think the numbers speak for themselves. I would not underplay the gender difference in this and i think i love ben simmons. I'm glad agreed to. I'm at the movies and that's kinda. Worry i'm with it. I feel feel similarly blinded by the light struggled to find an audience. I think there's probably a number of reasons for that i i it's possible that there's a little bit of a classic rock fatigue thing happening. In the afterglow of queen you know rocket man did well but not great <hes>. This movie did not do well. Here actually didn't do that great in england either which is notable because it's an english production it's english makers english actors and you know bruce obviously does not appear in the movie nor does a person who looks like bruce appear in the movie but the the struggles of a movie like that to are are kind of notable even though that movie does. I don't know if it hasn't necessarily classical comparisons but where'd you go. Bernadette is where we're going to focus our energy for most of this conversation -sation and i did read that this is the lowest wide release richard linklater's career which would later of course the director of dazed and confused and slacker lacquer and the before trilogy and a myriad of other incredible films. Honestly he's really one of my favorite filmmakers and i come to this movie not not having read the novel by maria simple i come to it blind other than knowing that it was supposed to come out a year ago and then it was supposed to come out in the spring and then ultimately came out in august which historically is never a good sign for a movie it comes to us now and i'm going to say right at the top. I liked it. I enjoyed it as as well. I think i both understand the aura of problem or disaster movie. That was surrounding it. I think there are parts of it that really work and parts of it. That really don't work you can see that you can see the struggle of acting on the screen in real time we talk a little bit about the texas a particularly difficult book to adapt because it's made of it's not a written in a linear narrative way it's emails and and faxes and diary entries and it's basically in a pistol every novel but from several different people simultaneously and in chunks and in several several different formats so you can see all of that happening. I thought it was really interesting. I spent a lot of time thinking that it was made with a lot out of care and that if they made all such movies i thought a lot about netflix movies during this that don't seem to be made with the level of of craft and thought and time that's put into this. You could see that people were really trying hard to make this work and maybe it didn't totally come together but i felt the effort so help me me understand having read the book if you think that some of the things that did not work about the film and it's a mixed bag i it was definitely more positive than negative to me. I can see that there are some some sort of narrative strands that don't work some tonal things every once in a while. You're watching it and like what kind of movie is trying to be can't quite put your finger on it but from the book perspective is it just because 'cause adapting and a pistol. Every novel is so difficult in this narrative format or is it because they made some significant changes to the tax that then kind of shunted the story because that's that's what i've absorb absorbed that there have been some they made some choices against the cortex that then hurt the movie. They did make some major choices specifically. I'd forgotten there is a whole subplot in the book about the l._g. Character who is played by billy credit in the movie having an affair with the the admen men as xu lin sue lin who is also in the movie but has a much reduced character and she's a lot more present in the book and that becomes an aspect of it. I had completely erase that from my memory of the book so i didn't experience it is like a major loss didn't big difference to me is the book is a satire and it gets to the emotional emotional place that this movie does well but it's coming at it from essentially the opposite perspective. I thought i was surprised that richard link later decided to make a movie about you know artists and creativity and finding yourself through it because that's certainly a seam in the book but it's at no point. Does anyone say i'm an artist and i need to create. Which is the worst dialogue ever said the anytime. Anyone has to proclaim themselves artists. You're not an artist in my opinion <hes> and but it's clear that that's what he related to and developed in the in the movie. The novel is much more about family interesting so yeah i mean let's talk just very plainly about what the movie is about. It's about a woman inverted at fox played by kate blanchett who is an architect who has not really worked in twenty years ears and she has moved to seattle with her husband who works for microsoft. He is a sort of ted talk giving tech wiz. They have a young daughter named be who is on the the precipice of going to the boarding school and bernadette hasn't worked for a long time because she finds herself in what we can't quite tell as either sort of a personal crisis or just a she's just decided to receive from society a little bit. Has she developed agoraphobia that she had mental illness. Is it more of just as kind of block around what you can do because of the disappointments of previous as projects that she has worked on and so it is a portrait of a family mostly bernadette and i guess the thing that has been explained to the burns at kind of vanishes for a long stretch of the the book and she doesn't really vanish for much of this film yes no. I think that's a i know that that's been a talking point and it's a bit of a simplification. She does does go missing at the beginning of the book and technically in the movie she does as well because it starts with like the antarctica snow caps. It's like i think my mom went away because x._y._z. and the book is framed. Similarly it is primarily told from the perspective of b. and beating like here's what happened and here's here's how my mom went missing and then as much there's a lot of narration and then they're also chunks of the emails from bernadette say to mendiola the virtual assistant who become an identity theft and it was interesting. I went and read some of the book last night after seeing the movie and they do you take some of those emails for them and put them in the movie when she's dictating. That's that's reading verbatim but those emails are in the book from the very beginning so you are in her head throughout and then there are people writing about her contemporaine asleep so she's missing but it's not not like she's not a character. She's really present throughout the book obviously as soon as you turn that into movie you have to totally it's that's one of those things that's really impossible to do in a movie in the same way so they just make the choice to linear like narrative is it and.

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"shawn fantasy" Discussed on The Big Picture

The Big Picture

10:38 min | 1 year ago

"shawn fantasy" Discussed on The Big Picture

"I'm shawn fantasy and i'm and this is the big picture a conversation show about the truth and lies in hollywood fairy tales amanda. I have returned from vacation. I have returned from sweden and i come bearing gifts great. I'm here to talk to you about the sturm and drang surrounds once upon a time in hollywood among other things on the show. I was hoping for something from the acne outlet but this is fine. Let me tell okay couple things about sweden okay before we get to deep into tarantino land one beautiful country yeah lovely people care they all speak english and whenever you say english to indicate ak that you only speak english because you're foolish american <hes> they say of course they all say of course <hes> because it is evident that they all speak english and it's easy for for them wonderful people. They're the acne stores little disappointed <hes> that's too bad. Did you go to the outlet. The famed outlet the two of the studios all of which i found found a bit wanting okay it is time for acne right now and also fashioned in general but we don't show okay. We'll get there some point probably over dinner but now now we're gonna talk a bit more about movies later on in the show. I have an interview with the writer director andrea loft who has a new movie the kitchen coming out. You may know her name. She was nominated for an oscar for writing straight into accountant and now she has a new film with melissa mccarthy and tiffany haddish and elizabeth moss in theaters at this very moment but i think we need to talk about a couple of things. One of them has to do with the academy kademi awards and the other one has to do with gwen tarantino as i mentioned and there's a little bit of intersection between those two things so in my absence from the united states of america. It appears that people people had some takes yes. There are some takes about the tarantino visit a thing that you did that. I really admire actually. Which is that you you stuck around. We celebrate your birthday earth day and also quentin tarantino day and then you just left and we all had a discourse without you really aspirational clouds and out of the cloud that that next week on more on on your way and you also celebrated a birthday while i was gone yes leah season. That's amazing you turn fourteen years old which is so exciting citing work right here benjamin buttoning all the way back to the spider verse and yeah i mean i i i did purposefully kind of align my vacation for the getting getting out just as the tarantino of it was happening now. That's probably overstating the little bit but i sense that there would be a discourse. Yes we were quite busy without you. Yeah on the internet. I i see that <hes> and i'm proud of everyone for stepping up and making their voice heard about what a brilliant end or socially irresponsible movie this is i. I want to try to have a conversation with you about this. In a way that does neither a hard defence of the film nor a difficult judgment. I'd like to have a nuanced conversation. Yes yes because i think there's a way to communicate about this. In a way that is thoughtful while not letting things off the hook so i will say i always find the nature of internet discourse course is people yelling at each other much as we do on this podcast and it can always be great but there was also a level of conversation i think had both in some great writing on the internet that and also people i have been talking to you that i found really rewarding even if people who really did not enjoy this movie or had issues with it. I think you and i both just had a very strong reaction. Positive positive reaction to this movie and i saw it again and felt the same way. I have a real connection to it but i do think that there was a level of conversation that for me made me think thank more about what i do relate to the movie and what i don't and made the experience much richer and i think that came from a lot of people who didn't really like get so that's it's okay. Certainly it's a it's okay for people to not like things even not like things that i like. I bring it up because the movie has clearly become ahead. I wouldn't say it's a mega hit but it's done quite well as first couple of weeks and box office releasing. I kinda like tried to shush you a little when you asked me about it on this show about the film i was kind of like let's not get to into whether it's going to do well because i don't wanna put that tax on it because it has been such a challenging summer and movies like this in particular are be imperilled at the box office which is we've talked about frequently and it turns out people are interesting tarintino. They're interested in brad pitt they're interested in leo and they're interested in hollywood and this story and so the fact that a lot of people are seeing it that means that a lot of people will be sharing what they think about it at a higher volume and so it was interesting from afar to watch the take cycle last night just two days or five days but eight days eleven days. Oh wow there's a new piece about bruce. Lee's representation in the film and it's the fifth piece about at this you know obviously the vagaries of digital media create a kind of hype cycle around things and sometimes it lasts longer than others this one i found fascinating because clinton really overload his movies with things and that gives you a lot to dissect. What was the kind of the key thing that stuck out for you about the discourse as it was unfolding after the movie opened well. It was something that i got wrong because i think you asked me on our our initial reaction podcast you you asked me to predict the discourse and i totally got it wrong but i especially got it wrong with respect to the portrayal of sharon tate and the women in this film which it has been an issue since the movie debuted and the first press conference at ken and i i think i knew that it would be a talking point but i had such such pacific expectations for what we would see and basically i thought we were gonna see a very grotesque reenactment of sharon tate's murder and we didn't and i was like oh okay not so bad and i think that i assumed that that would kinda and and people i think rightfully had a lot of thoughts and reactions to the rest of the portrayal of sharon cake take character and also to the other ways that women are used in the film which has it. I'm i'm always four. We should always talk about that. I thought that there was a really great piece by alison. We'll more at buzzfeed about tarantino uses women characters in his films are generally very thoughtful and you know he is a a director who has leaned into the kind of male nerdy fantasy aspects of the movie so i think it's really important to examine that i was really surprised by the in cliffs characters wife death stuff because it's very short and i i just i didn't really think about it that much. Which was a mistake on my part. I failed eldest media forecasting. I'm sorry you don't have to apologize in at least not in this space. I also really liked alison piece. I highly recommend that that's probably the single best snoop post once upon a time in hollywood piece that i've read and the reason that i liked it because i think that achieved what i'm trying to achieve in this conversation which is it was really nuanced and there were moments where she wrote what about the sophistication and the sort of like almost the emotional dedication that he has to a certain kind of female character and then there are the other times uh-huh where he writes things that seem so flip or so fetishistic or so like sometimes hateful and the person who can write jackie brown is also the person who can kill cliff booths wife in that way offscreen and the trickiness the complication around that. I really admired that. I i don't think that one of the tricky parts of this is that there's a desire to indicate that characters are heroes in all movies like we're all doing the joseph campbell thing and i don't know that cliff booth is a hero and so. I don't know that necessarily were meant to valorize him now. He does something that could be perceived as heroic because he he he kills hippies who were going to kill sharon tate in his imagined universe but there's a there's a there was a lot of work and a lot of the pieces and certainly in a lot of the very bad tweets and there were so hominid very bad tweets as i've been catching up on. Let me tell you guys your tweet. Suck even still the desire to put intention on characters actors where they can't necessarily locate it is a tricky game and you can do with every movie in every book and there's no way to really know i agree with everything that you just said and i've been thinking a lot about this because you know this movie is in a lotta ways about has bands and people who didn't quite get their chance and in some ways restoring storing and in so that doesn't make cliff like a hero or a cool guy but there is real power in casting brad pitt it in a movie and making a movie about him and so there's like the hero has sketched out in character and there is what we as an audience see and respond to and we're all very swayed by movies. I'm super swayed by the movies. They have an immense ability to lionize someone. It's very hard to make a movie about out. The villains in movies become the characters that we love and relate you so much because there is something about putting someone up on the screen and <hes> the way that we've learned to receive characters and movies which a lot of ways once upon a time in hollywood is about that it just gives them credit credit and endorses it in a way and it it's not even if it's like an exact a explicit endorsement but we learned behavior as we learned uh-huh standards. We learn what's cool. We learn what to aspire to from movies and so. I didn't think i did think twice about cliff booths ex wife but i thought about it in terms of a comment on brad pitt's own life and i was only thinking about it and celebrity terms. Which is maybe a referendum on how screwed up. My i brain is when i'm thinking about things but i didn't think twice about it but i have been thinking through my own. I say not indifference but just the fact that i didn't think about that at all when watching the movie and what that says about how i invest in characters and power of the movies and what i'm willing to look past right and are you willing to view your characters under the terms of zero-some game because you and we did a remarkable is about reservoir dogs recently. There's so much language in reservoir dogs that is distasteful. Some of it hurtful the carry the way that the characters talked to each other muslims a a bunch of white guys is really nasty and you know we always talk about on the relaunch. Ables like has this age well. Has it not aged well. That's a that's a such a fraud car category because and i've been guilty of having this kind of a conversation the past the trickiness of it is.

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"shawn fantasy" Discussed on The Big Picture

The Big Picture

15:57 min | 1 year ago

"shawn fantasy" Discussed on The Big Picture

"And finding the human story. I'm not I'm not too concerned yet about the bells and whistles of the action because that's sort of my thing but it's like like really what is the human story and how are we going to love these characters and relate to them for two hours. I'm Shawn Fantasy.

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"shawn fantasy" Discussed on The Big Picture

The Big Picture

12:17 min | 1 year ago

"shawn fantasy" Discussed on The Big Picture

"I'm Shawn fantasy editor in chief of the ringer. And this is the big picture. It conversation show about ghosts ghouls, and expanded universe's. I'm joined today by the ringers chief paranormal investigator. Chris ryan. Hello, Chris many people say that I looked like the guy from Jeepers creepers, is that a fact now. I mean that guy had a tough beat. You know, he was basically made of other people's body parts. So I think I I'm I'm doing better than him. Chris, you're here to talk about Jeepers creepers, because that's what you always talk about when you talk about horror movies, but we're also here because this week a movie called Annabel comes home comes out in theaters that movie is the third Annabelle film, and I believe the seventh possibly the eighth film in the conjuring universe later in the show. I have a very cool conversation with the writer director Gary Doberman, who has been the author of many of these movies, and this is his first directing effort, so very clever, and interesting all in one night, all in one house kind of a movie, and it had me thinking a bit about the state of horror movies this year last year there was a. A big topic of conversation. When John Krasinski had his directorial debut with horror film, quiet place, your before that we had Jordan, peels during to'real debut, of course, get out, and there was all this energy around hormones, it, of course, last year came out that was one of the biggest horror hits in the history of movies, this year has been a little bit more, even tempered, there was, of course, was us, which was Jordan Peele. Follow up to get out. And there've been a smattering of horror movies throughout the year among them escape room, which is the low key, one of the bigger hits of the year. UCS eight I didn't there's a bunch of her stuff from this year, that I think, fell in and around the thrones period of time that, like, so I kinda missed but I've been I, I still probably seen way more movies than any sane person should this year. Yes. You're the way that you consume or movies may be different from the way that I do it. I see a lot of movies in theaters obvious. But you have you watch a lot of VOD hor. Yes. Me and my wife really love horror movies is like a like, if we're home on a Friday, Saturday, kind of thing and what we tend to do is just troll. I tunes horror, genre page, and look for it usually on, like recent discoveries and we actually go through really, really funny very tweak two thousand nineteen process, which is try to ascertain, whether or not it's a movie of any quality without giving away anything about it. So it's essentially looking around scanning the reviews, but not reading them, and then playing enough of the trailer to determine whether or not it looks like it was shot in a guy's iphone on a trip to Palm Springs or is actually really good. And you just have to like dig into it, and we've gotten pretty good at it. Sometimes we'll get about thirty minutes into something. It'd be like OSHA. This is a bunch of, like Instagram celebrities who can't act and we just kind of have to turn it off. But more often than not, we find some good stuff on there. We just watched a really good one this weekend, actually. Okay. I want to hear about that. Let's just say that there are three categories of horror in two thousand nine hundred number one is the tippy top kind of big studio glossy. Let's try to make this an event to it chapter two. Coming out later this year. I think Dr sleep also feels falls into that category. That's the sequel to the shining. Mike Flanagan is directing comes out later this year. I think uh certainly falls into that category. When we saw us at south by south west, it was notable that universal chairman, Donna Langley was there or used to be the domain of the disreputable, and now it has become big business. And very respectable, I think the second tier is, and this is not necessarily a qualitative analysis. It's just the way that these things are organized is, I think sort of the blunt house style still a big studio, but smaller smaller budget, a little bit sharper around the edges. Little bit more rough hewn very high concept usually very fun. Usually also part of some sort of expanded universe in many ways, earlier this year, they released happy birthday to into you, which is a second film, in that series actually quite like that movie, I think pet cemetery kind of falls into this category, which I aspire to be maybe a little bit glossier than it actually was. But that was a paramount movie. Not too many people saw bright, burned by thought bright burn had a couple of cool moves during the superhero construct to, to make a movie like this. And then the dead don't die. We had Jim Jarmusch on the show last week ostensibly a small movie from focus, but, you know, shitload of famous people in zombie movie, and then that third tiers the tier that you're talking about, which is whore movies are among the easiest to make on the cheap and all you really need is a good idea. Maybe a handful of creature effects or or, or blood effects, I guess, or even just go sounds, and you can make something pretty impressive for very little money. I think that there's a rule that applies to all tiers of these movies that you're talking about, which is essentially the horrors, one of the most reliably successful genres of our modern era. So whether you want to say it starts a paranormal activity or whenever you think the horror boom kinda starts. I think that there are a lot of things that wind up getting dubbed horror movies. They're essentially just like a filmmaker had a story, they wanted to tell and whether or not, they shoehorned it in. To a horror story, or whether or not they kind of always envisioned it as a horror story. And there's no Trojan, horse involved, if it says horror on the sort of genre topic bar. You least have my attention for me. And I think there are a lot of people out there like me. I think we've talked about this before on, on big pick, where it's like being scared is just still one of the most basic call and response things that you can do at a movie theater, or at home watching on your laptop, or on your TV. It is still one of the most fundamental, and like primal experiences. You can have with a story, and there's a lot of like, oh, well, it was funny, but then the story fell apart, or it was the action was great. But the story was stupid for all these other genres, but horror, you allow a lot of like it doesn't really matter as long as I had a couple of scares, and what happens because there's that, that leeway, you see, so many different kinds of filmmakers, making so many different kinds of films within the horror tent. Yes, it was interesting to talk to Gary about making animal comes. Because on the one hand, I think you could say a third NFL movie like is this something we really need? Right. But those movies are so malleable, that you can redefine what kind of movie it is every time you make one all three NFL films. So basically taking place in different decades. They're all kind of period pieces in a way and they all aspire to a different kind of thing, they're all secretly kind of about face the rechristen films. Yeah. Under under the surface. But this new one, I think really effectively makes it sort of like a gallery of horrors, kind of movie where you have a series of artifacts that are haunting a house, and, you know, it doesn't seem like it's necessarily that expensive, even though it's released by big studio. And it does give you the thing that you're talking about it gives you a few good scares. It makes you feel safe. You're kind of around people that you don't mind being around the way that it ends is sort of satisfying. But also, if another one never happened. That'd be okay. If got five more, that would also be okay. It's oddly, not larded with the same continuity intensity. That comes with the MCI and there's some. Really, satisfying seems like they're also working at a certain margin, so that they've never gone out past the Patrick Wilson VERA for Megan level of star. They've not incorporated, some whole new like level of special effects, they're essentially, like just really good jump scares. Yes. And you can do that at a budget that works and have moderate success, and have that moderate success. Be really, really beneficial for the people who are making it. Yeah. Known as a shamed of it. There's nothing Gary even said he's like I like creaky floorboards as a storytelling device, you know, there's, there's something so threshing Hanukkah. You know what I mean? Like, yeah, well, yeah, they're sure it's not it's not that far away from some of your your Ardy your filmmaking. But what are some movies you saw this year that you really like? Yeah. You know, I mean just stuff outside of the list that you gave us and, you know, I think what's interesting now is also like seeing things like velvet buzzsaw or even like us to some extent, which are kind of psychological thrillers that are being presented as horror movies. I would say, you know, I just saw two really interesting different versions one is a, a movie called starfish, which is kind of a post apocalyptic thing where a woman goes to a funeral of a friend goes to sleep in her friend's apartment that night, wakes up the next day, and there's something has happened. There's been some sort of like alien invasion or something. It's basically a mystery for the rest of it. The reason why I'm not very clear on that is because it's really like a meditative, like Terrence Malecki wonder of like one hander of a woman in an apartment, kind of like going through a bunch of different belongings and sort of try to figure out what happened, but it's like very fetishistic about, like all the objects and cool, like kitschy knickknacks that this person has in their apartment that you realize as the story goes on, is kind of a mystery box to sort of figure out what's happened to the world. It's not that scary. Although there are some scares in it, but it's like an example of an indie filmmaker shooting something. I think it looks like it's like Montana, or Wyoming. The woman, the star of it is the character is a radio DJ. So she's just kind of like going through these tapes that her friend has left behind so starfish was pretty interesting. The one that I really liked which is admittedly like a little bit pulpy is this movie called headcount, which has a really good setup. It's just a bunch of teenagers getting high in the desert on a weekend away, and like what is essentially Palm Springs day, tell each other ghost stories around the fire pit one night. And one of the ghost stories comes true. Because they tell it it's basically like a Candyman type of thing. They said the name too many times, and it's got a real twilight zone. Feel to it. It doesn't the scares are releasing -serily good. And even though the CGI isn't that good? I would if you're looking for something small like that headcount is really excellent. Those are two two great recommendations to films. I haven't seen work and you get those Aisin's both on tonight since. Yeah. And so you watched approximately thirty seconds of both of those trailers, and said, I'm so headcount has the setup that my wife and I will. Literally, watch anything of if it's like a teenagers on a camping trip story like we're in. I don't know why it's just always like been my favorite like from Friday. The thirteenth on. It's always been, my favorite genre, or Hugh, a horror movie, sort of a horror fan as a kid. Well, not really like it didn't bother me. But I remember going to see sh- shocker, you remember that one ado, and, like kind of being grossed out, and like just a little bit like this is beneath me and stupid. Because like when you're a teenager, you're trying. At least I think one thing that was a real hallmark of being a teen back, then, was like you were always trying to be older than you, actually were because you didn't have a lot of stuff being directed directly at you. So I remember, just kind of thinking it was pretty stupid, also horror was considered like trash back then. And so it wasn't like I didn't have a lot of friends who were like. Let's go check out like this. Like let's go. Check out this cool. Blunt house movie. It was like every like six times a year, there would be. A real it was pitched as a piece of shit. You know what I mean, slasher movie? Even if it was like a good west craven thing when you would see what was the name of the west curving one like the serpent and the rainbow or something that, and you were just building what the that, and then like, your dad would be like no, you can't watch that. Yeah, it's funny that you point out shocker 'cause shocker came out after a nightmare on elm street. So if a movie like a nightmare on elm street and original move shoot success, not just cult-like but like genuinely authentically into the culture came out every movie that the person who made after that would be a big deal. But Wes craven had six or seven year period where he was still basically an underground overground film air. Some of those movies are good. Some of them are not the serpent and the rainbow. I remember being pretty good. That's sort of like a Viseu. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. It's, it's totally terrifying. Yeah. It's, it's a funny thing that the Jonah has just changed so much, and what we deem respectable and not respectable is unique because you know, there's a movie we're gonna talk about next week that you and I saw together called mid. Somare. How do you pronounce a summer midsummer? There's I know it's mid Somare, but like you feel too pretentious saying, is that the problem? I just don't wanna hit the same pronunciation, every time where I'm like I have to do the right intonation. So I'm going to let you get it. Right. And I'll just be the ugly American and that works for this movie. It's very true. If you want to hear more about mitt Samara, please tune into the show, next week, Chris, and I will talk about..

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'Toy Story 4' is a Masterpiece. Is It in Pixar's Top 5?

The Big Picture

10:49 min | 1 year ago

'Toy Story 4' is a Masterpiece. Is It in Pixar's Top 5?

"You. I'm Shawn fantasy editor in chief of the ringer. And this is the big Pixar podcast. They conversation show about Toy Story, four and all sorts of childish things. I'm joined today by apparent at the ringer rob heart villa. Hello rub. Hello. How's it going? It's going very well. And I appreciate you being here. You know, some of my frequent co host on the show among them, amended Dobbins, and Chris Ryan are, just straight up assholes about animated movies, and I noticed that I need to have people on to talk about important animated films. And I think even before you were a parent, you would have been a thoughtful and sophisticated guest for this episode, but you are a father and so you are happenings moves to Pixar in, in deep way in recent years. Is that fair to say that's very fair to say very complicated relationship with these movies at this point? But yes, yes, so we'll talk about that a bit on this show. I think we'll start the show though by talking about the new Pixar movie, which is, of course, Toy Story four, I think, when Pixar I started about twenty or so years ago, I never would have guessed that. That there would have been a fourth installment of any of these movies, in fact when they started. They seemed like a new version of a kind of storytelling that didn't necessitate sequels if you look on the ring dot com right now you can read a really interesting column by miles Surrey about the state of Pixar and their decision to make a series of sequels over the last ten years, and what that means for their, their brand, and what it means for their business and what it means for their creativity. And in some ways, I think it's been really threatened over the last few years, you know, we were just talking before we started recording about the infamous cars, three, which I would say is not one of the more legendary. In the Pixar verse. But Toy Story four, I thought was quite wonderful. And I thought it hearkens back to what makes a lot of these films. Great and also push them forward a little bit, rob. How did you receive toys story for what did you make in the movie, I saw last night with my sons who are eight and five and sort of Iraq is sort of preview screening. And I my kids laughed more laughed, louder just more obnoxiously than at any movie. I think that I've ever taken them to know. So I by by that measure, I mean it was a huge success. And I thought it was wonderful, and I thought it push things forward, but also sort of hold back on that sort of classic Pixar idea that like the kids are delighted, and the parents are total emotional wrecks. You know what I'm saying? Like I it's sort of an impressive mass magic trick that these movies can do. And I think especially of inside out, you know, which was, my, I think I've written about this on the side a couple times now. But like my son walk. Out of inside out. He was five at the time and he thought anger was funny, and I was just crying mess, you know, because I just watched I just watch goofball island, which is like the visual manifestation of like a joyful kid becoming a sullen teenager, like depicted, on, like a giant theater screen, and it was just the most crushing experience like the way those movies these movies are designed to work on those two levels, and they sort of drive, the parents to the toy store, but also to therapy, like, I, I feel like this one was sort of uncomplicated, Katie just funny and delightful and I had it seriousness and had like themes that parents, especially it would pick up on. But like it wasn't working that dichotomy where it was sort of, like designed to upset me personally, you know what I'm saying? Like I feel like they can play with that a little bit. But they don't have to hammer at it all the time in every movie that they put out, you know, I could just enjoy my kids, enjoying this one, a lot more than I feel like the last. Several Pixar movies. Yeah. I agree with that. I do think though, there is this entire school of almost academic sought around Pixar movies. And if you want to, if you want to experience Toy Story four as an exegesis on creationism and identity and a cartesian analysis of society, you probably could do that. I absolutely. Yeah. And I think that is that, that whole divide is fascinating to me the way that you've underlying basically the pure kid enjoyment of something, and the way that adults are entertained, and even moved by some of their films. I feel like can you give me a little bit of a sense of as a parent? What it's like to see a lot of movies like this, not just Pixar movies, but animated movies or what's on TV or what streaming for your kids and what the balance is between this is secretly for parents. And this is actually just dumb entertainment for kids, so that they don't like break things in the kitchen. Yeah. I mean, I feel like I've seen every type of movie along that spectrum, you know, and I haven't hated any. Movie that I think I've taken my kids to even like down to, like rock dog or whatever, you know, like I it's the LEGO movies are trying to be adult and trying to be knowing and it feels like they are specifically pitched for the adults in a way that, like a lot of the jokes are going right over the kids heads, like I don't dislike those movies, but I think that the LEGO movies are a little too cute about that. You know, I've seen plenty of things like, you know, the emoji movie or the trolls movie or whatever. Which are, you know, have theoretically adult jokes, but aren't trying to work that duality certainly the way that Pixar movies. Are you think about four key who like the new protagonist are like the new cool character here in Toy Story, four four key spends the movie like having an identity crisis like ease? He's a new toy but he thinks he's trash. And like he wants to be trash like he's literally, a spark with pipe cleaner arms, and he spends the whole first thirty minutes of the movie is going trash trash. And like I think that's really profound. And my son just really loves the way that four key keep saying, trash trash, like he did it. My son did it all the way home whole drive home like. And it's that's a cool. Little thing, that's you know, the different levels, and you can appreciate it on without it having to be this comedy versus tragedy divide. You know, it's sort of typifies, you know, again, like inside out, or even like the last toys story movie, Toy Story, three ends, of course, with, like, the scene, where they're all heading down into the incinerator, and they all sort of somberly, join hands and they're sort of resigned to the fact that they're all gonna die like all these little toys, and it's you know, I'm sort of a crying rack, and like my sons are sort of mildly disturbed, but they figure everything is going to be okay. And it is, but, like there's a moment of like pure pesos on that level in this movie, and I was, frankly, kind of relieves like the idea that I have to walk into every Pixar movie like braced dad, this huge sort of existential breakdown, you know, as my kids, just enjoy themselves like at felt like we pulled back on that. A little bit. And I was grateful for that. I agree with you. It's it did feel bit like an episodic adventure, which wasn't a bad Yang. I think sometimes you can get a movie like that, where the stakes have been lowered from the previous film, and you're like, well nigh. You're just wasting my time. But inevitably when it's a movie about anthropomorphized toys, somehow, it's nice to just have something that is a little bit more fun. I mean you mentioned Toy Story three which, you know, sort of ends with that transition from Andy to Bonnie, and then inevitably Bonnie becomes the, the young child, who is the owner of all these toys. And so were reintroduced to a world that features some of Bonnie's toys, and then the toys from the classical Toy Story story, and then four he comes along on the first day school. I, I did feel in that sort of first day of school moment that I was getting some of those inside out vibes that you're talking about where it's sort of, like they have managed to metastasized the most vulnerable feeling that you can have in your life. That that's scary trust. They of school where like I don't know anybody and everybody hates me. And I'm afraid and I miss everything. Is comfortable around me and they zero in on it, and they show it to you through the eyes of a little kid. And you immediately feel a recognition. That is a storytelling power. That is often overstated about Pixar allow me to overstate at wants more like it's amazing how they manage to locate and isolate those feelings and show them to you on screen, and make you relate to them like I am consistently blown away by that. There's another one at the end, when there's the kid lost at the fair, you know, she's just sort of there's a little girl, and she's crammed between, you know, to food carts or whatever, and she's crying and like, yeah, it's the exact same feeling and I yeah, there's a conversation also I think it's between Woody and four key. And like I think what he says, like, you know, these kids like you watch them grow up and become a person. And then they leave, you know, they'll do things you'll never see like the whole point of these movies is that the toys realized that one day, they'll be abandoned. You know, one day, they'll fall out a favor and one day, the kids will run off without them and won't need them anymore. That's, that's not even subtexts. Like that's just that's exa-. Exactly how parents feel watching these movies, you know, I think that's always there. And it is really striking. You know, I mean, this is possibly the best movie I've ever seen with the numeral four in it. You know what I'm saying? As you as you said, like I understand sort of the dismay, or at least a concern that Pixar has become by and large, like a sequel factory, you know, but I I I didn't dislike incredible to at all. But like I felt like certainly this was a better sequel than any of the other sequels that we've had this year. Obviously, you've been talking about how terrible and how sort of lifeless, they are like this is just a one eighty from that. Yeah. They staved it off. It's, it's a pretty impressive single-handed job in a in a friend summer from hell for this movie to come along and, and gay ever. So briefly, I think I think pause things one thing, that's notable too, is, you know, we're talking about the human emotion that they're able to imbue into these films and into these characters in the movies directed by Josh Cooley, who is. Essentially a first time Pixar director, though. He's worked for the company for a while and the screenplay has two people credited, but the story has two four six eight people credited and it's a complicated list of people. I'm going to read it to you really quickly story by John Lasseter Rashida Jones will McCormack Josh Cooley. Valerie LaPointe, Martin Hines, Stephanie, fulsome, and Andrew Stanton. Now, the last two people are the official authors of the screenplay famously when this movie came together, Rashida Jones and will McCormack her writing partner were brought on board to write it, and they eventually left the project because they felt like they were not as open minded about new voices, particularly a woman of color talking about the way to tell these stories for Pixar Pixar, very famously has had some fraught history with, with John Lasseter, one of its co founders chief imagine ear for a number of years due to sexual misconduct allegations. And the company has I, I would say affectively weathered the. Storm, whatever that can mean an has moved on from Lassiter, who I believe is most recently appointed to a position on inside of sky dance, and they're animated division of paramount, but it's so strange to have an event like that happening

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"shawn fantasy" Discussed on The Big Picture

The Big Picture

03:55 min | 1 year ago

"shawn fantasy" Discussed on The Big Picture

"I'm Shawn fantasy and, and this is the big picture a conversation show about a whole new world. Amanda were here for a very specific reason, and that is because Aladdin comes out this week, twenty-seven years after the original Aladdin Disney has decided to reprise remake rethink recast, receiving Aladdin. We saw the movie last night, and we're gonna talk step by step through all of the things that they did with this movie. I imagine that, like you and, like our producer Bobby and, like, so many people that lived in the nineteen nineties Aladdin is a very important piece of pop cultural entertainment. Is that true for you? Yes. And it's always interesting when you watch the live action versions of these, or even when you go back and revisit something haven't seen in twenty to twenty five years how what sticks with you. And what comes out of the primordial ooze of your childhood, and for me it was definitely a whole new world which I was playing top volume. As you walk into the studio this morning. It's quite early, but yeah, the, the songs, especially and this was just a phase from ninety to ninety one. I guess it'd beating the beast through the lion. King is locked in on the Disney experience. It is a Disney, golden age, beauty and the beast. The Lion King, the little mermaid, there's a series of movies that happened over this time that we're beloved hugely successful sort of master the art of storytelling Oscar-nominated at times. There's there was a lot of credibility going Disney's way towards the Disney animation. And so we find ourselves that this interesting moment, Disney ever insert valuable IP is remaking all of their movies. We'll talk maybe a little later in the show about the remaking of Disney movies in general, and what it means to make something, quote unquote, live action as far as Aladdin twenty nineteen goes, maybe we'll have to just call it that, so we don't have any confusion, or maybe the fresh prince of Aladdin or something like that. That. What did you think of this movie is you and I saw it together and you walked out. And you were if I can quote, you, you said, I don't know what movies are anymore. I did say which is a great summation of this is a movie in the sense that it was made by Disney and is about two hours long and his released in theaters, and has a mostly discernible beginning and end the middle. We can talk about. But it is a combination of a lot of disparate elements that was overwhelming and at times enjoyable, and at times super confusing, and just does not translate to movie in the sense that you and I it's like part music video partner style. Jim sheen, by the way, that, that times really works, and we're going to talk about a whole new world like fifty times, you'll talk about. Yeah sorry still rolls. You know, you can't find a great songwriting. It's part a I guess this isn't conversation within a style job. But kind of updating commentary machine. Yes. And then it's part of money grab and all of those things are in it together, and I find it hard even now two separate my experience of watching the movie from those four things, which are kinda. Competing on the screen and in your head at the same time. But that doesn't mean that it's a disaster. It's not a disaster, which is kind of interesting. I would say it would be more fun if it was, like, whoa. This is the worst movie ever made. Yes. And when we saw our first look it Will Smith, as the genie there was a part of me that was like, whoa. This is going to be terrible. There's about ten minutes in the cave of, of wonder is that what it's called when he's doing?.

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The WTF Movies of 2019 So Far

The Big Picture

09:05 min | 1 year ago

The WTF Movies of 2019 So Far

"I'm Shawn fantasy an animated, and this is the big picture a conversation show about movies, I guess because movies are still happening in the shadow of game of thrones were having kind of a weird conversation this week, Amanda, and I are going to be talking about what I thought was going to be the best movies of the year so far, but as we went down the list, and we thought about what we've seen thus far. And what we wanted to see we realized that this has been kind of an odd year for movies. So we asked you guys on Twitter. What you wanted to hear talk about you gave us a lot of responses. Some of those films are brilliant. We've talked about some of them on previous episodes ashes purest white, for example, or or transit or us. We spent a lotta time on us shot. We spend a lot of time a long shot Apollo eleven. These are all fascinating brilliant, beautifully crafted movies. We'll talk a little bit about them here. And there as we're going through this. But Amanda, I think it's probably better if we talk about movies that confounded us confused us excited us and ultimately left us. Just wanting to talk. Yes. So here we are to talk. I'm gonna I was ultimately inspired by seeing dragged across concrete. Have you seen that movie? I have not because I think everyone in my life has encouraged me not to I don't think you need to see it. It's Dorothy by minimum as Craig Zoeller. It was there was some notoriety around it because Ahlers movies have a particular political bent, kind of free speech, a finding that some have perceived as very conservative. It's a movie that stars Mel Gibson in Vince Vaughn as to police officers who have been suspended and then spend their free time trying to stop a Bank robbery. Boy, it's larded with a lot of intellectual and political complications. It's not really worth unpacking here. You know, there's been some really good writing about it on the ring dot com. I would encourage you check that out Chris Ryan and Adam name and had a conversation about it on the watch a couple of months ago. And I think that was part of the reason that they spend an hour talking about it. And at the end, we're like we cannot endorse this, but also here all our thoughts about it. Yes. I walked away feeling the same way though. Less interested like less excited by what it did. But it does feel like an onramp into this conversation because there's a lot of cool stuff in it. It's very well made Zoeller is obviously an artistic person I do not agree with many of his ideas about humanity. And it left me feeling like I had both wasted my time and saw something unique. And I think that that's definitely a theme perhaps a segue to the movie serenity. Wow. Yes. So this was maybe this was among the most requested in the call for submission. I think it was the number one request. Why do you think that that was to be set up serenity in any way? Oh, gosh. I guess we how do we train serenity? Let stars Matthew mcconaughey and Anne Hathaway to bona fide movie stars which is of note and it begins as a kinda Morrish or Neo Noir ish situation on an island, and Matthew mcconaughey has a white whale of his own called tuna. And he also has. Some demons and an ex wife who needs some help. Then that's in Hatheway, that's pretty much it. He's a fisherman. He is he's got an habit pursuit of Justice the tuna that you're ferring to and he's got a first mate enjoyment, Han Soo and Hathaway plays that ex wife and he's got a kid. We keep hearing about that we see and his ex wife's got a husband played by Jason Clark. And this movie is hysterical. And I don't mean, it's funny. I mean, it is literally operating in hysterics the whole movie is the most pitched up over the top preposterously plotted movie of seen in a long time when it came out mile Surrey wrote on the ringer about all of it's absurd. What the fuck nece, and I didn't read that piece at the time because I didn't want to spoil for me. And it took me a couple of months to get around to this. And usually when someone says, you gotta see this movie. It is effing insane. I go quickly before whatever reason I didn't get to it. I don't think you to either. No, no. I watched it at home. Which we'll come back to. So Stephen Knight Ronin directed this movie. Stephen night is best known. I think for creating peaky blinders which is a show on Netflix. And he's written a handful of movies here and there, and he's thought to be a very well respected writer director in Hollywood. I I'm I'm just baffled by this movie. I don't understand what he was going for. I mean, let's just say that we're we have to spoil the talk about this movie. So if you haven't seen serenity, and you wanna see serenity, I guess I can sort of recommend it as an ultimate Curio in American movie going, but it's pretty bad rate. It's not I all of the hubbub. I thought this was a good what the fuck movie, and it does not really deliver. It's more just kind of like how did this happen? And how did this many people make it this far, and sink that this all came together? So now, we're going to we're going to spoil the reveal spoil away. It's video game. It's a video video game. And they carry the son who is referenced throughout the movie, and then like all shown like eighteen times throughout the movie is programming. This whole world. And everyone else is fiction of his imagination. And he's doing it to like connect with his fictional dad or something or for a father figure and to avenge his real life stepdad, which we should talk about the problematic aspects of that. But anyway to your point of what this was trying to do. I thought it was like matrix gone. Extremely wrong. Right. I thought that it was trying to engage with the idea of. You know, the video games, and the captured that they have on culture right now and imagination and that idea of the simulation, and what's real. And what's not and revenge and the game if occasion of life, I think that that is my most generous reading of what is going on here. I do not think it delivers on any of it. And I do find that kind of video game to real life violence aspect a little troubling. So I will say as a twelve year old computer geniuses evocation of what adult conflict is a what an adult's life is like an adult who lives on an island called Plymouth island, which is somehow tropical. I'm not sure if there is a tropical island called island. It actually seemed on point because when you're thirteen you don't really understand what it's like to be an human adult, and what it's like to have problems in demons. You know, there's a lot of complicated ideas in the movie math mcconaghy's. Character is a war veteran and Hathaway's. Character is a survivor of domestic abuse. Yes. There are some some really weighty females here. And by the same token, the like, I said the movies just kind of hysterical. The kid the actors are going so over the top in every scene and Hathaway, I think is more or less playing Barbara Stanwick kind of like forties. Fifties era kinda bombshell Dame who's trying to draw a somewhat innocent man into an awful plot. Sort of like the postman always rings twice, you know, meth mcconaghy's kind of the John Garfield going. But they're so pitched up and it's also happening on a boat, which is kind of a ridiculous setting. That's that. I I was just just really confused by how actively bad it was. And I know that seems like a simple criticism. But even if it was a commentary on the way that thirteen year old sees adults. I still thought it would something was missing. Does that does that make sense? Yeah. I will also say I I watched it at home as did you and it really suffered from that. And I would like to talk more about the context in which we receive all of these movies because I think it is increasingly important, but for this one you you really had to pay attention because it it was making logical jumps and giving pieces of so-called information that you were you saw the you're solving mystery. Yes. And I I suppose in a way you were more kind of on a on a video game quest, which as I I'm told requires a lot of focus, which is not what I give to movies. So I would I would. Honestly, look away for ten seconds. And then five new characters would be screaming about something that was like oh shit while I messed up miss something. And I had to rewind. And then it's not like the ten seconds that I missed provided any information or insight. It was just kind of jumping around. So I I actually experienced the real gaps between the ideas it like literally because I thought that I kept missing something. And then it just was never really there. It's funny. United spend a lot of time on this show talking about the movies. They don't make any more. They don't make built dramas. They don't make thrillers. They don't make rom coms. They don't, you know, all of these categories were always talking about lamenting, oh Hollywood is lost its way. And it's all big ten actions that piece movies. This is the kind of movie that we're saying they don't make any more movie stars leaning into a big showy part. It's high concept. It's not based on any IP. And yet

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Spider-Man: Homecoming |  Marvel Month

The Big Picture

03:34 min | 1 year ago

Spider-Man: Homecoming | Marvel Month

"Shawn fantasy editor in chief of the ringer. And this is the big picture a conversation show at least for the time being about the marvel cinematic universe. I am joined today by your friendly neighborhood, film critic and ringer contributor, Adam name and Adam Hello, how are you? Hey, how're you doing Adam? You are friendly and neighborly because we are here to talk about a movie called Spiderman colon homecoming. This is a latter stages. MC you entrant and unlikely one largely because for the longest time Spiderman was just not a part of the new and when this movie happened. It was a surprise to many in the fact that he was integrated so effectively into this universe. Makes it kind of a fun movie to talk about because it fits into the big picture and a lot of the things we've been discussing throughout this marvel month, but it's also just a hell of a fund standalone movie when I reached out to you a couple of weeks ago about participating in this project. This is the movie you chose. And I thought that was so interesting, and you never told me why. So why do you want to talk about homecoming? I thought it'd be just really good and confusing to talk about homecoming in the shed. Oh of the other pop cultural product called homecoming true came out this week. I thought that'd be really fun. I thought we were talking about beyond say, no this is perfect for SEO. This is great. No. I mean, I I like talking about this film because I think it's a strong one. I wrote about it for the ringer when it came out and thought that everything you said about it sort of returning Spiderman to the intellectual property fold with something that it kind of allies itself in a very clever way, the whole movie is sort of almost about like Spiderman trying out for the marvel cinematic universe and trying out for the adventures and trying out for the audience, and it it has that self reflexive quality at it's not obnoxious. Like most of the time. It's quite clever. I sort of thought there was something about it. I mean, all the marvel movies even tell me what you think of this there. They have to have all these surface differences and all these surface, peculiarities nudity secrecy, but underneath they have to lock together like a puzzle or voltron like you can't really make one different. And so this one. Kind of has the friendly neighborhood surface on the outsider surface in the underdog surface. And I found that all like, very charming and pleasant, and then the fact that it really is just a piece of product that locks together to the rest of them in this case didn't bug me. The way that it may be bugs me with some of the other ones. Yeah. Even just revisiting it this week. I found myself surprised that should Tari alien technology was a significant part of this movie. Which is of course, if int- part of this MC, you and everything that we've been talking about because the first time I saw it. I felt like I could have been any old alien technology could have been from an Amblin movie in nineteen eighty seven. You know what I mean? Yeah. And you know, you don't really actually need Robert Downey junior there. There's pleasure in having Tony stark there, and Jon Favreau, kind of babysitting him, and, you know, the the the parallels that has the first ironman movie because it becomes a very different kind of origin story. Like thank God. It's not a Spiderman origin like he's bit by spider. And there's and there's all that stuff. But it. About him like becoming an official superhero. Right. And there's all kinds of scenes that parallel the way that same story is told in ironman right up to the ending being kind of a parody of iron man announcing himself to the world, whereas, you know, here Peter chooses not to you don't need all that stuff. But and then the Qatari technology. You're right. It could be anything. But I like movie that simultaneously stands alone. And has these bits of connected to the larger story, and I find the way it connects larger story in some ways really witty like the cell phone footage of the big civil war fight. Yes. That's really funny. It's clever. I

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"shawn fantasy" Discussed on The Big Picture

The Big Picture

03:49 min | 1 year ago

"shawn fantasy" Discussed on The Big Picture

"I'm Shawn fantasy. And this is the big picture a conversation show about the Oscars. First of all I want to thank right for filling in for me last week man of thank you very much for hitting everything in the aftermath of the Oscar nominations which were largely predictable but also a little bit absurd. As I look back on them. I have a lot to say. So this may be a longer than usual episode. I think that's great as long as I'm allowed to cross examine your various if we can build that in absolutely great. That's part of the social contract of this podcast before we go any further though. Amanda, I want to ask you have you seen the movie the wife shot I have seen the oh man metoo? We all the wife. One. We now we kill the bit completely. Well, I want to say the Oscar nominations, and then the sag awards killed the bit the bits over. I know the bit is over in honor of killing the bit next week. We're going to spend probably more time than we need to examining. The wife will have a wife a palooza of sorts. Okay. That's great. I already have a lot of takes just like put them in the oven for a week. We'll be the the hottest. I can't wait a cat. They're beautiful chocolate. Chip cookie takes. I also have a lot to say about this movie. Even though I don't think it's an important movie. But that's we'll save it for next week. Certainly, not okay. Alerts next week wife palooza. So now, let's go to the big picture. Big picture. Problem in the big picture. Do you know what I mean? Okay, man. I think that the Oscars might be in a little bit of a state of crisis here and just a little. Yeah. There's many reasons for that you and Chris touched on this a little bit last week in terms of the nominations. Maybe we should start there and focus on the sag awards which happened on Sunday. And I thought were very confusing now the sag awards are not necessarily the most accurate predictor of the Oscar results, but they give us some insights. And boy, this was a weird one. We have to start with the most important award. Which of course, was best ensemble that's sort of the best picture award at the sag awards and Black Panther one. This is the first kind of major award by voting body of crafts people that Black Panther has one at all. So we were moving in this direction last week, you guys I thought very wisely. Identified the race AS Roma's versus green book. And I think law which isn't ridiculous ever say anything in public the moral of that. Well, I think and I think I think a handful of people did correctly identify that that's where we had gone. A star is born and kind fallen away there's a little bit of black klansman darkhorse conversation that maybe we'll hit on here. On today's episode. But Black Panthers win does something interesting. So let's talk about what the saga wards are. It's not just the Screen Actors Guild. It's after which is also a radio organization a radio union that also votes on this award. So there's a lot of people the vote on this award and a lot of people that do not vote on the Oscars. So we don't necessarily want to be tricked into thinking that this is I don't know biblical about what's going to happen in a few weeks. But it is meaningful. What what was your reaction to Black Panther winning? It Sarah action was great. Why not I Black Panther is great. And I think we all would have felt disappointed and bummed out. If it had gone through the entire award season without any sort of recognition beyond an Oscar nomination. So you know, what I loved that? They got the moment in the Senate is deserving. Also by the definition of best ensemble. Yeah. Pretty great pretty deep bench in Black Panther. And it's nice that everyone in the cast was recognized. So I felt good about it on its face. And possibly. That's how a lot of voters felt and maybe we don't have to over think it, especially as you noted some of the more casual voters in the sag after grouping. But my reaction what about how did you respond to it as the co host of an Oscar pocket, right? No. That's my second acted as a host of ostrich podcast is like lull white. Yeah. But but I'm going with the positive low..

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"shawn fantasy" Discussed on The Big Picture

The Big Picture

03:43 min | 1 year ago

"shawn fantasy" Discussed on The Big Picture

"I'm Shawn fantasy. And this is the big picture conversation show about bird box. I'm just kidding. This is this is the Oscar show man to Hello. Well, twenty nineteen happy new year. Happy new year to you as well. We're here to talk about the Oscars. But really we're here to talk about the Golden Globes. Because of course, the Golden Globes are this weekend. We're going to preview this lovely award show. Amanda, you're ready to do this. I am I have my picks and everything we have ballots. We want to know about your ballots, but I will share ours. Where should we begin? What category? Let's with your favorite category. Do you want? It you to just leave this in you put it number one and I run down here. And I don't want to steal your glory in the new year, Sean, so this is best motion picture animated, which is a category that I enjoy an a category that Amanda does not we'll talk a little bit about why you don't leader in the show. But let's just let's just go through these picks. We're gonna as officiant as possible. Because later in the show, we have an interview with Pavel Pavlovsky. The filmmaker who made a movie called Cold War, which you and I talked about last week on this show. Yeah. Beautiful film. Great conversation with him wants you to be able to check that out. So let's get right. Into those ballots. Here are the five nominees for. Animated incredible to I love dogs Mirai. Ralph breaks the internet Spiderman into the spider verse. Amanda, how many of these movies have you seen? Oh. Wow. That's pretty good. Yeah. Which ones I've seen incredible too. And I've seen dogs. Okay. Yeah. I love dogs is sort of the adult entry here since film. Yes. I is sort of complex movie that we have. I haven't really talked to anybody on this show about that movie. But we're not gonna do that right now. What's your take? I incredible stew. Okay. So I went Spiderman into the spider, and I I don't want to say too much about this because we're going to focus a little bit more on this category for the Oscars later in the show because there's that divide is very interesting. So let's just go straight to the next category. Okay. I can't even give me. My one-sentence reasoning. Okay. Yeah. Sure. Good. I just think that superhero buyer bias will work against spider verse in context incredible to his superior movie. Yes. But they don't think of it the same way. It's not a marvel movie. You know, it's not of it's not of the universe. It doesn't have the marble creep. And I think that voters brains can only expand so far right now. Let's hold onto that thought because we're definitely gonna come back there next category. Best motion picture foreign language here here the nominees. Yes. Caper no girl never look away Roma. Shoplifters one where is Cold War trail to whereas burning trail three this categories fine. It's it's Roma. Right. Yes. Because Rome, I can't compete in the best picture category. So the voters will give this to Roma. Okay. This is really boring. I find the the sort of foreign nature of Hollywood association. Yeah. Most confounding part of this. These nominees are super weird Roman not being able to compete in that category. Makes this even more obvious. Did I won't do they give this category out on television? They do they give them all out on television. There's so many awards because television is included, and we will not be talking about TV here, by the way. I honestly don't remember which is more a testament to the fact that I haven't paid attention to this category in past pastures. Shame on me. Yeah. I think they will give it out this year just because they didn't fix their rules in time. Yeah. An opportunity to get koruna. Stay a Netflix moment. Yes. Okay. Next category. We're going through sort of the soft early category as the beginning of the show. Yeah. Best original. Score motion picture your nominees are Marco Bill trauma for quiet place. Alexander does plot for I love dogs Ludvig goeransson for Black Panther. I'm really enjoying my pronunciation here. Justin, Hurwitz, I man and Marc Sherman for Mary Poppins returns. What he got? I went with Justin Hurwitz for. I man. Okay. Which is partly because I man was essentially otherwise ignored by the Highwood Foreign Press Association..

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"shawn fantasy" Discussed on The Big Picture

The Big Picture

04:00 min | 2 years ago

"shawn fantasy" Discussed on The Big Picture

"I'm Shawn fantasy. I'm Amanda Dobbins. And this is the big picture a conversation show about the Oscars. Amanda, we're back this episode two of the big picture's Oscar show, and what are we going to talk about this week? We're going to talk about big ideas with Netflix, big ideas with widows big ideas with the front runner, but let's start with Netflix with the big picture. Big picture. The reason we're talking about this is because Netflix is trying to get into the prestige movie game. Boy, are they and it's been a couple years. They've been making original movies people may remember beasts of no nation years back with Elba. You know? They may remember some wins in the documentary categories over the years, but this year really marks in the aftermath of some of their rom com. Success which maybe we can talk about a little bit big time. Best picture aspirations one of their first efforts debuted on Friday. It's a film called outlaw king started by David McKenzie. It stars one of our personal favorites. Chris pine, and it's a story of Robert the Bruce one of the men who attempted to and then ultimately did fr. Scotland from England's rule you wanted to be king. King. Now, this is the price you pay. We only win a few survive. Amanda, do you think outlaw king is a worthy prestige movie? No. I think that's part of the problem here is that I think it's a pretty worthy zone ad and watch a movie I think it's a worthy. It's Friday night. And I want to watch the people like fight on a battlefield. I miss game of thrones. I just generally like medieval stuff, that's great. I think it's perfectly acceptable in that range. And I think probably plenty of people watched it that weekend and kind of took that away. Like, hey, great. Okay. I watch bunch of teens dope. I do not think that it will win at any awards. And it's been interesting that it was positioned as a prestige movie. Yeah. It was debuted at this international film festival in September. It's funny that you mentioned game of thrones, our producer, Bobby right before we started said this just felt like an extended game of thrones episode to me kind of minus the dragons, I suppose. Yes, you know, there is some lineage, and I can see some of the rationale and they're thinking when they started production on the film because it literally picks up where Braveheart leaves off. I mean, it is it is the store. Three of from William Wallace to Robert the Bruce in that connectivity in that time, and I don't know it kinda like looks and smells like a movie that would be nominated at the Oscars in nineteen Ninety-seven, but not one that would be nominated in two thousand eighteen yes, it's beautifully shot. I mean, all of the vistas of Scotland looks great. It's a great travel advertisement. And how about that catapult? Yeah. And it has the big set pieces. It has Chris pine is playing. He's doing the resigned. Great man version of this character, which is always an Oscar favorite. And obviously also David McKenzie has some Oscar history himself he directed how hell or high water which was nominated screenplay years ago. Yeah. So I get it. But it also I can see why they positioned it as a prestige movie because so much of this is like, you kind of hope people will receive it as the way that you advertise it, and sometimes prestige movies or garden, sometimes they're really bad. And it is. Kind of I guess the cost of doing business in this game. They're trying to put themselves up for Oskar, and sometimes you win and sometimes you lose. But I don't really think this was a win. It's tricky when something is man, that's something that Netflix always has to fight about. Because it sort of always there. The lack of theater experience means that the, you know, the leverage this sort of stakes of experiencing the movie are pretty low that encourages a lot of second screen watching which is not great for the immersive quality of movies come back to that. You know, if you weeks ago, we saw twenty two July, which is Paul Greengrass story about the terrorist attacks, Norway, not is quite a long and intense recreation of this very tragic event in that too. You know, green grass is a lot of history at the Oscars..

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"shawn fantasy" Discussed on Channel 33

Channel 33

01:37 min | 3 years ago

"shawn fantasy" Discussed on Channel 33

"Hello and welcome to a special channel thirty three podcast my name is chris ryan i'm joined by shawn fantasy and on the phone driving around somewhere in columbus ohio is rob harv villa say hi rob hello say hi sean it's me we kind of wish we didn't have to do this podcast this is a special appreciation for the music and life of tom petty who we lost earlier this week to a heart attack and teddy was 66 ada we've kind of in the last couple of years lost some real like rush more faces in the music landscape bowie imprint sin and last month those walter becker from steely dan chuck berry yes chuck berry but this one felt atr nowhere it felt sudden and a really like blindsided in a couple of us there's a couple of pieces on the ringer these check out when you get a chance at most notably rapport villas just absolutely beautiful obituary for tom petty dow eat back and rob i mean i you know i don't wanna get too into the gory details but like with boeing we knew boy was sick for awhile that was like kind of in air tom petty was playing the high would bowl like two weeks ago you know i was there a week or yeah this was this this is a real shock and i think that has a lot to do with how we're processing it yeah exactly i mean i it sort of print like in that way that you could add no indication you know he earns super active you know you put out record with a heartbreaker if he got a goal free heartbreakers ban but crutch.

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