20 Episode results for "Shanley"
A letter to a Suicider . Tanisha Katyal . Episode 214
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163. Sharing a Snack: a meditation and story for your bedtime routine
"The low our islanders. Today we are happy to share a favourite story and relaxation. With you before we begin. We want to remind the grown-ups who are listening that hundreds of be calm on our island episodes are available on patriots looking for a particular favourite story or a special meditation. Want stories about dragon or episodes read by a male or female narrator. You can find just the right story and dot com slash our island now. Let's get ready to relax Hello away islanders. Let's see if you have everything you want to be. Calm on our island. Are the lights in your room. Dim are off. Do you have your favorite blanket or listening buddy before we begin our story. Let's relax by taking three deep dragon breaths breathing through your nose filling up your belly and then out through your mouth imagining that. You are breathing. Fire ready deep breath in and out again deep breath in and out last one. Fill up your belly deep breath in and out today the air will help you feel calm as if you arresting on a cloud. This is all pretend and you are very safe. You will start by focusing on your feet slowly. Move up to your head and end by thinking about your entire body ready to find your cloud warm and sunny sky. The cloud is soft and fluffy like a giant pillow. The breeze circles you as you lie back on the cozy pile of fluff Think about your feet focusing on how they feel your feet feel warm or cool. Has they float on the soft cloud to you. Feel the breeze washing between your toes. Does the win. Tickle the bottom of your feet let the cloud float your body up and breathes like a dragon in and out focus on your legs. How do they feel let the cloud support them. Your legs are light and floating. Just like your feet relax and feel the warm breeze world around you has the soft cloud gently rocks you back and forth back and think about your back. How does it feel relaxed into the fluffy cloud and preve- like a dragon in and out the soft cloud hugs and gently rocks. You as you float in the air. How do your hands feel your hand is open with your fingers. Spread out allowing the breeze to circle them. Feel your hands. Soften as they float on the warm cloud your body is light and calm hugged by the comfy. little cloud. Think about your arms. How do they feel. the wind. shanley swirls around them. Has you rest your arms on the fluffy cloud with your feet. Legs back hands and arms. All relaxing noticed the lightness in your body and float focus on your shoulders. Feel them soften as they settled into the cloud like a dragon and doubt the cloud. Hugs your body gently and rocks you back and forth back and forth think about your neck is relaxed and soft. Feel the winds sway. Your head from side to side as your head rests on your cloud pillow and choi feeling of comfort has the cloud gently cushions your head. Loosening your jaw and your forehead. Soft breeze world around your face and body relaxing. You even more now. Your whole body is floating as the cozy cloud supports your feet. Legs back hands arms shoulders and neck. Relax and field the cloud hug and rock you back and forth and forth wrapped in the hairy blanket as you continue to float. Let's take three more deep dragon. Breaths breathe deep in and out breathing in through your nose and breathing. Fire out your mouth again. Deep breath in and out last one. Fill up your belly deep breath in and out. Great job everyone. I hope you are tucked in nice and cozy okay. I think we're ready to begin our story. Let's be calm on our island. Our story today is sharing a snack. The curious dragon pure doubt from cozy cave and yearly. Watch the sunset. The dragon could hardly wait to return to the animal. Sanctuary explore some more the From the sparkling train faded into the distance and the drag and knew it was time to go. The dragon stepped outside. The cave stretched its wings wide than lifted up off the ground hovering above the forest. The dragon looked for the train tracks and then followed them once more. The dragons smiled and passing the beach. Wave to benji the bucket and paul of the blue penguin. War mayor surrounded the dragon above the beach. Land and then slowly. The air began to cool. The dragon smiled and waved to bow the beluga whale and princely. The penguin as the land turn white covered in snow. The dragon followed along the tracks until the white snow melted away and the land changed to green and brown. The dragon looked for the peaceful pool of water and landed in the sanctuary oliver. The elephant rested with his heard. He heard a noise looked. The dragon had come back. The little elephants smiled happy to see the dragon again. The little elephant hopped up and ran over to the dragon. The dragon felt a little worried at the site of the elephant. Bounding forward at full speed. Oliver screeched to stop and wrapped the dragon and a big hug with his trunk. The squished dragon smiled and began to wiggle out of the little elephants grasp. Oliver noticed that is great. Big hug it made the dragon feel uncomfortable and apologized sorry dragon. I was just so excited to see you again. I guess i overdid it. The dragon gave oliver a gentle smile and took a deep dragon breath. In and out. The flames flickered into a winky smiley face. The dragon felt happy knowing that the little elephant was so excited the sanctuary was another fantastic place to visit however. The dragon decided. It would be best to remember the little elephants. Big hug food and remind if not to squeeze so tight just then the dragons tommy rumbled. Oh it sounds like you're hungry. Oliver said then oliver's tummy grumbled. He smiled and blushed. Feeling a little embarrassed hyg. Sim to then. The little elephants said i know perking right up. I know just where to go. Follow me the hungry dragon eagerly followed the elephant over to some colorful trees. The trees were splendid with leaves as soft as feathers taking a closer look. The dragon could see some beautiful orange fruit up near the tip. Top of the tree. Oliver smiled and said you're going to love this. The fruit is very sweet and juicy. Then the little elephants stretched his trunk up as high as he could but oliver couldn't reach the fruit. The dragon started to spread. Its wings easy to fly to the top of the tree but the little elephants seemed to have a plan. The dragon waited. Oliver looked around and found a couple of rocks. The little elephants scooted them up over to the tree and then stood them up on top of each other then. Oliver began to climb the stack of rocks. The rocks wobbled as the elephant reached up to the top of the tree. The dragon over to be sure. The little elephant didn't fall. Oliver wrapped his trunk around two pieces of fruit. He carefully climb down and handed one fruit to the dragon. The hungry dragon looked it over. It was a lovely orange fruit with a blush of read. The dragon took a bite of the fruit was just as sweet and juicy as oliver said. The dragons smiled and finished the piece of fruit soda oliver. The dragon smile. Thank you to the elephant. And then oliver signed to and said. I guess i'd better get back to my heard more you visit again. The dragons smiled and nodded. Yes then the dragon waved goodbye and left to find the sparkling train for a ride home just in time for the starlight ride. The dragon climbed aboard and road home to the enchanted forest. The dragon wave goodbye to the friendly train and trudged home reaching the cozy cave. The sleepy dragon crept to the soft bed of moss. A tail curled around the peaceful dragon and grateful. Thoughts rolled through the mind thankful for the tasty fruit. The dragon was very grateful to have such a clever friend. The dragon was even thankful for oliver's tight hug with is closed. The little dragon wrapped arms and tail around in a tight hug then relaxed taking a deep breath in and out. The dragon relaxed into the mossy bet with another breath. The dragon calmed and smiled. Then one more deep breath in and out the dragon's mind quieted and drifted to sleep dreaming of the feathery tree with the beautiful orange and red fruit. Thank you for joining us to be calm on highway island. See you next time and
A Crystal Meditation for Calm
"Hello and welcome to a very special episode of the love and light live. Podcast I'm your host Ashley Lady. And this week. I'm doing things quite differently. You probably notice. There's no intro to this podcast and we're actually going to be skipping over all of our regular segments. I just found myself for the past few weeks with everything. That's going on really needing some extra support and I'm sure that all of you out there listening have been feeling the same way. It's been a really challenging situation for each of US dealing with our current world health crisis and I think we could all use a little bit of extra support kindness compassion so for today's episode in lieu of our regular format. I'm just going to be sharing something. That is really deeply personal to me. Going to be sharing crystal meditation for calm. I think this is something. We can all really US right now to get ourselves back into a place of center and alignment. If you'd like to download this meditation to listen to over and over and over again over the coming weeks and months as you need to please visit the website at love and light school dot com slash blog. And you'll be able to download this episode of the podcast right there. I hope that you find peace. Balance Alignment and calm with the special meditation and until Next Week. Many many crystal blessings. Hello and welcome to this crystal meditation for Com today. We're going to be doing a meditation with crystals to help create more calm and serenity in our minds spaces. I'd like to invite you to take just a moment to grab two of your favorite crystals crystals that make you feel really calm. Peas take a deep breath in Hale. Take a moment to pick up your crystals one in each hand. Close Your eyes to get into a place of stomas focusing on your heart. Chuck Robb the very center of your energy field. Take another deep breath in and as you listen to the time of this bell. What all thoughts slowly Feel the energy of the crystals begin to warm up in the palm of your hands. Very gently pulsing at the same rhythm as the beating of your heart. Feel the energy growing and expanding outward down to your fingertips up through your wrists your elbows all the way up to your shoulders into your neck your face back of your head up to the crown of your head down your torso through your belly down your back towns here your waist and your hips your pelvis down the fronts and backs of your legs to your knees down your shins and calves the heel of the foot ball of the foot to the very tips of your tomes read this energy in deeply and exhale allowing the calm soothing energy crystals to fill your physical body feeling your body Shanley polls at the sames low rhythm as your heartbeat then you feel yourself in grounded connected to the Earth's energy allowing any access officer energies to slowly leave your mind allowing any energies that aren't serving you to move down through that grounding cord connected from your base chocolate to the earth feeling this energies lowly leave you. I'm burning yourself. Lightning the energy of your aura. Feel the area at the top of your head your Crown Chakra the into slowly open up and connect with universal energy. Feel any access. Thoughts worries concerns. Anxieties stresses fierce. Begin to leave your body and your aura through this opening at your crown. Chop Gra seal. Them being gently pulled out of your body gently extracted and moving into the universe into universal source. Were they move into a bright white light where they can be transmuted and dissolved back into positive energy energy? That's for your highest good. Feel your attention return to the place of your Heart Chakra and take a moment to place one or both of your crystals over the area of your heart holy place with your hands in your other crystal if you have one extra right in front of you on the floor and breathe deeply here allowing your heart center to bill with a calm peaceful stable energy of your crystal just reading here at whatever pace is comfortable for you taking a few Braxton an ex hailing feeling yourself return to send her ceiling yourself. Find Your own inner calm feel ready you can once again pick up your other crystal them in your hands just down at your sides or resting the backs of your hands comfortably on the tops of your thighs. Feeling the weight of your crystals in your palms grounding you again into your body feeling yourself become relaxed comforted and nurture by the energy of your crystals and feeling gratitude whole scene from your heart. Choco down each of your arms down into your hands sending this gratitude energies trait from your heart to your stones taking a moment here to pause and thank your crystals for assisting in finding that place of inner calm when you feel ready you can set your crystals down in front of you slowly. Stretch your arms. Week'll your fingers begin to wiggle your toes and when you feel ready gently and slowly open your eyes and return to the present moment. Thank you so much in crystal blessings.
Filmcast EP63 - Wild Mountain Thyme
"Welcome to the no budget. Film cast where we dip into the independent from universe. Stylish those little films that you might not have heard about elsewhere we agree with our panel or will our panel agree with that. Teach other tune into find out. My name is milo denison with me as always armor most excellent coast clermont. Hello in coffeen. Are claire what did you four system wash this week this week. We all finally got to watch. Wild mountain time deliberations. Now guys no. I've been looking for since the her divulges. It was good for christmas when the trainer came. And of course it's really excited. You think oh my god. And you irishman starring. Emily blunt jamie dornan. Christopher walken on jon hamm and then they said it will be on the eighth of january so obvious again yes. The eighth of january comes along. There is no sign of the spit him. A google looked up. Everything was blocked. An iceberg on filmmakers wants to watch this legally. I wanted to pay money to filmmakers to watch this them. But anyway i forgot about this and then collar here. He texts me and he he said oh. My god clair's turkey from april. May think he texts me the next day saying. Oh gee blocked in arden's you know. So then i was like oh god they really don't want irish people to watch this. And they said oh ours. People get to watch it later in the air in the cinemas cinemas opening in june. At the time we didn't know when they'd be open but they backtracked earned release tish on the apron arden's so we all sat down and we had a watch party last week to watch the joys of renton the wild mountain time is love story about anthony. Riley player jamie dornan. An rose do play by emily blunt and as a rosemary is kind of going after a unpaid and she she really likes them unto keeps rebuffing her for some weird reason which comes out later. Which is the most craziest crazy thing which we won't reveal here. And then anthony's cousin comes along in the shape of jon hamm and he and he falls her rosary. She kind of likes him and they go to new york revisions and very strange things happen. So it's a romantic comedy sess- in a accident where exactly set and was filmed in mail. It's based on a play. Could outside one and gar. We run a broadway. I think it's a success on broadway years back and it's written and directed by john patrick shanley and the play. He also wrote the place. Jon prosser shanley also wrote Do very famous. It was reading a play but very villain with meryl streep and forget for me as an artist person watching this have seen the trailer trailer was an awfully worst. The accidents looked a lot worse than see this. They weren't as bad you know. But what are these actors doing swim. I do not know critter walkin looks like an electrified Describing the family balloons. They're in their mid thirties. Everybody jamie dornan. It's crazy they're These characters brunt has a weird week needs to win contacts and jamie dornan the damodar. In what is he doing playing this food. More or less goes around with a metal detector and a weird coast and but it's bizarre crazy burning on parody but then it doesn't really work jobs fox flash but it wasn't as bad as i tossed. What do you guys think of wide. Open american academy nightmarish. So you probably have different days in american. Yes so having lived in ireland. I at least have that experience of live there for quite a number of years and i did not encounter anyone who reminded me of these characters from this film and i think that's a good thing. So yeah you've got a group of very talented actors across the board. All being terrible usual christopher walken. You're right. they must have had some kind of electric stick of zask in order to get him to say these lines and with his somewhat attempted an irish accent. I'm assuming that hollywood irish You mentioned at jamie dornan. Who is irish but was using the wrong irish accent in this film. It's just across the board. It has no redeeming qualities. I am sorry claire. I know you think it was better than you thought. But the thing is john. Patrick shanley has made good films in the past right. He did joe versus the volcano which i loved. I know a lot of people didn't like that film. But i did really like that film. And and and Out there what's with other film that he's the one that you mentioned. I can't think of the number of the us and know moonstruck moonstruck which is awful film. Actually i know. Everybody loves to instruct but i actually passionately hate it. It is also an extremely boring. come but anyway. I think the directors guild needs to revoke his his membership. He should no longer be allowed to write and direct films after making this film and no one should ever hire him again to make a film. That is how bad this is it has. It's it's okay. I mean the writing is terrible. This story plot let you mentioned. There's a twist at the end. That makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. The dialogue is terrible. The the cinematography is terrible. It's so cliche wanna be look at ireland cinematography at also slash. This came from a stage. It the editing is even terrible. There's cuts in this. You're like what in the world are. They thinking cutting this like this. There's a scene with her dancing. Where like starts off with her shooting. Some birds then goes to her putting record on a record player to like dancing outside but then it has this music running through the in just the way it's chopped together doesn't work at all of the the the costuming. There's literally the music i know. The music has won a few awards. Even but it's so cliche like via linney. Frapp the song wild mountain is scottish. If i if. I if i'm correct here. So that's the song that this movie is based on that is saying in the movie isn't even an irish song like they couldn't come up with a fucking iris song Hughes in this film it is utterly utterly horrible and utter garbage will will will. I'm just to move to read. It has won an oscar for best did win a lot of oscars i know. Everybody loves moonstruck. I think i'm the only one in the world had doesn't like mint struck and i don't she remember because it's so boring and nothing happens if you wanna fall asleep. Watch moonstruck Well this is probably today. Hey my know yes claire. How much does it cost us to. Host this podcast. It's free free. Yup one hundred percent. No chuck as we use anchor dot. Fm anchor is a super easy way to make a podcast for example besides offering free hosting they offer other services such as creation tools that we can use to record the show on a phone or computer and not only. Do they do all that. They automatically distribute on casts. Boris so it can be heard on spotify apple podcast and many more often partha. And there's more more for yes more most podcast. Advertising services require each episode out thousands of downloads for sponsorship now with anchor users can make money from podcasting with no minimum listeners. Well it's everything needs a podcast in one place. Sure is all you need to do. His download the free anchor for go to anchor dot. Fm guest starred in it. It's one of the the most watch films the twenty twenty one. I'm mainly to trailer which that's that's kind of went viral home. We got what the heck is this so it was it was like he wanted to see see her battles and so bad was it became the way the first of all. Let's talk about the positive Grass we stand the joke. Yeah but like the accents. In from the tranny community mitigate sasser they okay and maybe they were just use them. The acting was okay. I'm and i didn't think they were. Were miscasting the rose said but we're ending as it was boring to those those. It was decision extended soap opera of unrequited love news convincing than any way and it was it was hard to most extensive feeling towards caring for hydro and as you said the completely bizarre it's so bizarre like actually just wanted to review here review because david ehrlich said this sometimes enchanting but always demented soda firm of banter and blarney couldn't be a broader caricature of irish culture if it were written by the keebler elves and directed by a pint of guinness and the leprechaun museum of ireland. They responded even we think this is a bit too much so that was just a yeah so museum environment things too much. you know. it's too much good. It's it's another one is about. The whole thing is essentially one river dancing leprechaun short of a fairytale really. I think that was the only thing that was missing. It is river dancing. Leprechaun's yeah actually rainbows in pasta and other since shoot in there and the same for instance on the lake with the boche. We have no idea what that was just for. A laugh is just to make a mixed like there's one bizarre scene as well where she's done to swan lay close new windows like just geared. We'll sequence you know it was just like oh my god and then we won't say what it is but holy mother of jesus ba- gara an top the morning then it'll twists slush economies jumping. The shark shark. It's like going to the moon in to known me is crazy. like bizarre. Just move was. It was an irish poets nine hundred eighty s cuckoo and believable bizarre. Who president it almost seems like every rape relation you can ever think of ever this revelation not be do And then of course all american thing and it's like irish people earned happen at trinity. You know we we we go to. You know we're we're not. We are in a first rose country so when she goes new york. It's like she's never left firm and the costumes were there from eighteen hundreds. I wouldn't say nine hundred fifty s eighteen hundred zero. It's bizarre since you watch this film. What does this actually take place in because you rents a mercedes stream the airport. But it's like a nineteen sixties era. Mercedes yeah they write a horses and you know it's the nobody has a mobile phone at. It's just there's so many different things from so many different generations. Her singing songs specific cringe. Cringe-worthy very crazy you know was does market for it somewhere from divert from the beginning to the end farthest cringing as i said before it was based on the plane and site moving on them i was looking up some reviews that was was going to read a quick Exert the new york times. Charles issued and mr shanley's lyrical writing. I'm flawless production lab that gave such consistent pleasure night that was new york times infinity to we are times scripted. As mystifying that was clearly unjam become across as as an extended play at times could most of the last half hour just to price occasion. Yeah yeah. I can see it as a play. I mean it makes sense that it was a play like. You're right so many of the scenes you can imagine being on a stage with the dial you know sitting around the table having conversations that of stuff but even then by really surprised that it worked so well as play like i mean. I don't know what changed for the film that made it terrible but it probably does point to different audiences. Maybe american audience to know about how the actors agreed to do this. And how do they respond. When the got the dialogue of the script. I love to know so no holiday. Great holiday grainger. She was originally play. Any boone's character movie. She dropped out and she read the script on how to say some designs united. We're talking to the quiet man. And i think they were trying to tap into that sort. Avoid letting somebody pointed maybe was that quite man was cheek to this is leading destroy. Take it more seriously here. Well the quiet man was made in. What nineteen fifty five fifty six like that so it was made with very different style. And era of filmmaking worked. Then i mean that that have made more sense for that era like i don't think you can make the quiet man today and have it look like it did. Then you know. Like i it. It wouldn't work and so it's fine if that's what they were trying to do with this but it didn't work at all this into that vibe and the fact that wouldn't release in ardant for so long i think 'cause they knew rice or new like he knew. Listen even warned Markers yeah will. He made twenty million. Yeah i guess. Yeah and i'm sure as what you like to write the pro there are. I'm sure there are. But i'm not one of them wrong with their own to each their own. I will not fault you for liking this movie if you do. I just do not available on amazon youtube and google play and apple everywhere to rent with definitely. Just check it out and let us know what you think. You're irish are not irish. You know if you like is or haters. Think it's the weird everything we know what you think. Yeah okay so call you want to go before me or go. first them. it's it's it was a play that was extended to film bush. Really should have been compacted into your containment buried. So we'll give windstar. Yeah the only redeeming quality in this film is that if you turn it into a drinking game you will get drunk really well. There's a lot of things which as in things that you can make up to turn this into a drinking game however that is not enough to make it a good film in so i kind of want to go zero stars but i'm going to be somewhat considered because they have a good cast. Who did a terrible job. But a good cast in the last. So i'm gonna go one-star just be nice so it's a film that you go to see with your friends. I love to sit in the cinema. This people's reactions a but definitely go see your friends. It's not as bad as a trailer i to be put is. It's quite actually a. It is a quite boring. They could've hoped it looks less boring in the trailer put. There are parts that lagged so much and another friend of ours said it was really boring. Actually fell asleep. May labus you know. But it's it's bizarre cliche with though amazing actors which i can't get my head around why they're in this Yeah i have to go with. One-star is just for the efforts and the actors those new definitely the lowest. I don't think. I've given anything one-star on the show and who you have call. So this is this worse than your other one star or no the other one you give a half started in one was worse. I won't know okay. you're giving it a high one. wow well nobody's audience. We apparently did not like this film. You however should see it and make your own decision and if you like it more power to you definitely definitely let us know why you liked it by reaching out to us on social media. Instagram twitter and facebook. We are at nobody show or of course. Leave a comment to the video blow if you are watching this on youtube and we will leave by saying this. If you already said that part and with that we will stay. Stay tuned to see what we are watching next week goodbye. I wrote down a natural. That's that's slowing later thousands.
Meditation: Healing Raindrops of the Night
"Welcome to sleep meditation for women apart of the women's meditation at work with your guy katie. Hello and welcome. I am so happy that you're here with me right now. If you're listening for the first time. I hope you really enjoy this meditation and encourage you to search through old episodes to find other that my call to you. If you've been listening awhile thank you. Thank you for your reviews and apple podcasts and the other podcast players. Thank you for your emails and thank you for sharing this. Meditation is brought to you by neutral. Did you know that thirty million women are impacted by weakened or thinning hair. If you're among them know that you are not alone and neutral has you covered. Neutral is a daily supplement that can completely transform the health of your hair. No matter your station. Life neutral has a solution neutral. Women is ideal if you're experiencing thinning hair caused by stress. Dieting over styling and environmental toxins while women's balances formulated with additional hormone support for those with thinning hair through menopause and their postpartum formula is perfect for those months. After childbirth neutral is physician formulated to be one hundred percent drug free. They use medical grade botanical 's and consistently effective dosages. So you get the most reliable results you can grow thicker healthier hair and support our show by going to neutral dot com and entering the promo code m m to save fifteen dollars off your first month subscription. This is their best offer anywhere. And it's only available to you as a listener for a limited time plus free shipping on every order. Get fifteen dollars off at neutral dot com and u. t. r. a. f. o. l. dot com and use the promo code. M m. have you been thinking about starting a podcast. I've been hosting my podcast on anchor for over a year now and i absolutely love the ease and creativity of their tools. It's free to use and is made for the creator with features that allow you to use popular music received messages from your listeners and even receive sponsorships. So if you've been wanting to start a podcast go to anchor dot. Fm to get started today. Three and listen to the raindrops. Outsi- relax your body and land. The raindrop hill. You tonight. he'll you're my heal. Your body heal your so so come and then fight your body to snuggle and settled deeply into your bed. Close your eye and open your senses. Peel the sod layers of she him blanca around. Us they caress. Your skin tastes the crisp air. The night has you drop your tongue from the rue of your mouth. Relax your jaw. Listen to the chin till rhythm of the rain drops outside and it and buy it symphony to heal you tonight. Tra i draw pre let your body relax and further into your bad water. He'll and tonight she comes to you. And millions of precious drops of rain. Ready to touch your skin sues here har and soften your mind. Dropping water. wears away the stone krisha said so preheat his and search yourself. Sir ch for the stone those places and side of you. That may be hurting tonight. Baby in pain may be feeling anxious or worried or cover in fear breathe in and lack. Cheer bre fine. They stone these parts of us at want to control. Forget or want to fight. I need parts of you at want to cry. One to her or want to shrink peace stones her part of you into serve. No shame mayor ready to be. He'll so breathe deeply beautiful in tune in to the sounds of the rain in feel e train. Dra visit shanley lands on those rocks. Oh over and over and slowly dissolving them slowly releasing them slowly healing you let the raindrops hill. You draw of magic at a time. Draw forgiveness draw of connection. Try of la indo or until the last bit of stone his gone swe tree beautiful.
Episode 34 Norman Jewisons Moonstruck (1987)
"Tweet. US. But not with not with like inbox spam to atwitter like we go yesterday. Did you see that from some prostitute? Yes to. Podcasters who talk about films. Yes. He. Pro Welcome to celluloid junkies this month where literally and we're going to yell passionately about things share and love and freshly baked bread as we discussed Norman Jewison Nine, hundred, ninety, seven romantic comedy Moonstruck the Moon. Is a little like love you marry me I will marry you I will be. In Love and Loretta. You Love Them. They drive you crazy sometimes while you marrying johnny is a fall. It makes you act a little crazy. Okay, I don't care I can't take. This. Romantic. Bite on your neck allies going down the toilet arrives open my friend I have my. I'll see. You haven't set any. Ruined my life raft possible. It's COSMO's moon. Why? Don't want to talk to. BOOT that phrasing mood now you thought I. Love You what? Snap out of it. Confused they see there's nothing new under the Sun. But under moon. That's another story eleven. Loretta. Awful God that's. Share. Nicholas Cage in a Norman Jewison film. Struck. If not ninety seven belong to any one person in the entertainment industry, it surely belonged to share. The singer turned actress was at the peak of her artistic and commercial success with two films released in a year's final months on a new album as well. Her Thurston five years. But, share had always been a headliner bid on sold out musical to or in the tabloids where she was a permanent fixture. Thanks to a never ending array of high profile relationships and her no holds barred attitude. Share had acted in some films with partner Sonny Bono in the nineteen sixties, low-budget productions like wild on the beach and good times, and she had taken the lead in chastity. A film produced for her as a starring vehicle bombed at the box office and sold a couple in over their heads with the federal government owing more than a quarter of a million dollars in unpaid taxes. She didn't return to the big screen into rubber Oltmans. Nine hundred, eighty, two comedy-drama come back to the five and dime. Jimmy Dean Jimmy Dean a well reviewed mildly successful film in which Sharon some Florida's. The following year she was in Mont Nichols drama superfood based on the real life of. Would a nuclear whistleblower who died in a car crash while investigating wrongdoing that the nuclear plant which she would. Silkwood was a major departure for share being her first out now traumatic role. She played the Lisbon Dolly Pelata coworker in housemate Meryl Streep's Karen Silkwood and would earn an Academy Award Nomination for best supporting actress she lost to Linda Hunt in the year of living dangerously. She went one further at the Golden Globes winning that same award. Shares film was now in full swing and she would next tackle the role of a down-to-earth bought nicknamed rusty the mother of a young boy with cranial diaw physial displays you an extremely rare disease which causes disfiguring elements to the skull in the Peterbilt Denisovich. Feel. Mask. She received almost universally claiming her role earning a golden. Globe nomination this time is best actress and winning that same award at the Cannes film. Festival. The academy had different ideas. And file to nominate her. She responded in her own unique style, showing up to present the award for best supporting actor that year to the seventy seven year old Donna Michi wearing one of the most outrageous dresses ever seen at the ceremony, a midriff baring Gothic black sequined gown with a towering feather headdress that almost would have been out of place at speediest Suare. I had the idea mostly because the academy didn't really liked me share said they hated the way that I dressed in that I had had young boyfriends. So they I wasn't serious. So I came out and said, as you can see, I got my handbook from the academy on how to dress like a serious actress. The lack of acclaim from the Academy for Moss. Kit Share hard. She had stated many times in interviews that she loaned to be thought of as a serious actress, but unfortunately found it difficult to compete against stars like Streep Sally Field Diane Keaton for dramatic roles. The Washington Post called who missing nomination a SNOB and the Chicago Tribune in original review of the film said a second nation scenes assured. Aguirre after lighting with breathtaking ensemble share starred in three films. I came the witches of Eastwick in June accommodate to by George Miller and starring Jack Nicholson alongside Susan Sarandon and Michelle Pfeiffer. Sixty three million dollars at the box office triplets budget in the first of what would be three financial successes. Suspect which followed in October was not one of those the film directed by Pediatric Specimen for Nineteen Sixty eight bullets starring. Steve McQueen was a commercial failure. Starring shares a public defender who is assigned the case of Death Homeless Vietnam? Veteran accused of murder the screenplay via into an advertently comical ending that for some reason, I still love to this day. The, second financial success for the year was in fact, surfaced album in five years. A self titled Record released two weeks off the suspect spawned the top ten single I found someone and became her highest selling album to date. Second single we all sleep alone narrowly missed breaking into the top ten as well but the album was certified platinum by the would lead to a major revival in otherwise stagnant musical career. Third Success was of course, moonstruck. The screenplay the moonstruck began when John Patrick Shanley set down with Sally Field McGraw to pot for her. Meeting at the Russian tea. Room. In Nineteen ninety-six field said that she had read the script for Shanley's upcoming crime drama thought of corners and liked what he'd done. He said off to write her a script on SPEC which means without any guarantee of money as he liked to own his work and ensure that if produced, it was given the treatment at deserved. Shanley drew upon his own ten year marriage and divorce as inspiration for the screenplay, inserting both autobiographical and observed elements into various characters along with the usual autistic fiction. Shanley who had grown up in the East Bronx had good knowledge of New, York and its inhabitants and wrote to his straits. He also came from an Irish family known for their hotheaded nature and lively philosophical debates. He was educated by the Irish. Christian. Brothers went to Nyu and began a degree before dropping out joining the marines. He eventually returned to Nyu and completed a master's in educational theatre. From there he wrote for the stage including off Broadway production such as Denny in the Deep Blue Sea and women of Manhattan before tackling a screenplay. But the character he wrote for Sally Field Soon, found out was easier imagine for her on the page than it would be visualized onscreen. Shanley admits he was a little naive because I didn't realize how literal the movies are about a human face. Field nevertheless shop the screenplay around with her star, but there were no bites. Shanley eventually met with director Norman Jewison who had expressed an interest in the screenplay. As, we'll see he's Shanley essentially, interview Jewison for the to direct his script hoping to find that Jewison would realize the writers. Vision. They clicked and Shanley determined that Jewison quote wasn't a lunatic giving him the screen plan adding an close the studio for which Jewison produced a wouldn't be allowed to Al Shanley for rise. They eventually read the script together and agreed on every word before production began. As the new time said Mr Shanley wasn't unreasonable though he had written seven dogs into the script when the dog trainer insisted that seven dollars would be completely uncontrollable he settled for five. Norman. Jewison. Was a major name in Hollywood but probably dumb, his most acclaimed twenty years prior. He made some comedies at the start of his career including two Dora stay before making the Cincinnati Kid to mixed reviews starring Steve McQueen. The financial success of that film led to a big production nineteen, sixty, six's the Russians are coming the Russians coming accommodate that grows over twenty million dollars and was nominated for best picture. This allowed Jewison to branch out and do some more personal projects in nineteen sixty seven. He made the bombshell film about race relations in America south in the heat of the night. Sidney Poitier Plays Virgil tibbs, a police detective who is stranded south of the Mason Dixon Line in Mississippi and faces immediate racial profiling at the hands of a local police force. We pin him as suspect for murder that has recently occurred. He isn't guilty of course, and later in the film slaps a white man in a position of power. The slap heard round the world. The film won Best Picture. He followed up a second successful Steve McQueen vehicle the Thomas Crown Affair with another best picture nominated film in Nineteen seventy months fiddler on the roof and adaptation of the Broadway. Musical. The film deals with life in a Jewish community prior to the Russian. Revolution. Maybe it's because of his involvement in this project that Jewison is often mistaken as Jew even though he's a canadian-born Preston. Part of the reason, he wanted to make historically significant artistic choices which do his time in the royal, Canadian Navy during. World. War Two wearing he visited the American south and encountered racism and segregation. To of Jewison projects in the nineteen seventies encountered protests the first of which was mad up the Andrew Lloyd Webber Tim, Rice Musical Jesus Christ superstar. Some Christians had previously said of the Musical Judas was portrayed as too sympathetic. The criticisms of Jesus were offensive and the project itself was blasphemous Jewison film version wasn't immune to these attacks. The second controversy came with nineteen seventy, five year old a science fiction film was decried for its over violence and branded with an r rating in the US and a restrictive AA rating in the UK. After, being contacted for the rights to the sport portrayed in the film a fictional one of Cole's Jewison stated that he was shocked People WanNa to create real sporting leagues based on as the movie was made to show the sickness and insanity of contact sports and narrow Lula. In the nineteen eighties he tackled even more serious subject matter I with another look racial segregation in nineteen, eighty-four soldiers story, and the following year with Agnes of. About a young man who gives birth and mood as a baby. With Sally Field Out of the picture share was brought in is the lead for Jewison production of Shanley screenplay. The cost was fleshed out with a plethora of extraordinary Italian and Italian American actors and actresses as well as rising star Nicholas cage most recently seen in his uncle Francis Ford Coppola's Peggy Sue got married and the COEN brothers raising Arizona. Others included Greek American actress Olympia Dukakis and Brick John Mahoney the latter of whom went on to further success in the ninety s Sitcom Frazier. Production on moonstruck began with eleven and a half million dollar budget in December of Nineteen, ninety, six, the cost and crucial for five weeks in new. York's little Italy. In Brooklyn's cobble. Hill making sure to include several landmarks and many locals in the filming. People in New York are such natural at desert. It was wonderful said, Jewison. Later, you know everyone's during New York these are the kinds of things that the city like this office that you just can't get anywhere else. Filming move to Jewish Hometown of Toronto Canada during late January of ninety seven. When many of the films interiors were shot over the course of the next six weeks and on February thirteenth coincidentally a Friday and the nod of a full moon that either bode badly for the film success. They came in under budget at ten point seven million dollars. The film opened on December Sixteenth, in New York Los Angeles and Toronto making it eligible for the upcoming Adamy, award show before opening wide on January Fifteenth Nineteen eighty-eight. Finally. got. Her true also goes revenge. Share Lewis. Luke de Love Moonstruck I. Love It. Awful. When did you first see moonstruck remember exactly the first time I I saw it I remember the fest I didn't absorb how great it was. I thought Oh. That's nice. That's curious of that film was so well liked because nothing really happens in his fumble officed back. Then I'm really didn't pick up like the intricacies of the dialogue because a very subtle genius Moonstruck, and now I love an my appreciation and love for. I think as I grow yeah I think I was very much the same i. think it was just a film that I must have caught at some point thought that's good fun. Of course. I love share. Can I just ask you? Do you find it strange that as a gay man when you first met me that I was as distanced from Cher and Madonna as I was then and still not really because I feel like until recently when you've developed this really bizarre fixation Taylor Swift, you've always had conned of highbrow taste. It's only recently that you've self to bathe in the MUCK shall we say? Suwaidi wait a minute. You don't think that share and Madonna are great artists. No, I do but they're certainly something a little bit campy a little bit filthy about them which I think is part of the reason gay men drawn to those people because somebody who can express that sexuality as a woman so freely so openly is always something gay men are drawn to. The appeal of Moonstruck. As I said, it's hard to describe. It's like a contrast between the film's cadence and rhythm, and it's characters who sort of beat and they have a lot of morbid ideas and compensation throughout the whole film. But the film itself kind of Bounces, and feels very frothy even though all of these people in this community, a kind of very dark and sometimes even morose that lends. itself to the screenplay because it's not just an out and out Roy mandate comedy, it's grounded in reality is well nothing. So remarkable happens in the film that requires the explanation of the moon just a few kind of serendipitous coincidences and things like that really won't moonstruck is about is about human interactions and his family and Shanley does a really good job teasing what's funny or charming out of ordinariness. And just little quirks and rhythms and. Phrasing is everything in Moonstruck what we respond to his how these characters phrase their thoughts. Moonstruck in nineteen eighty-seven must have been like air freshener after the politics fatal attraction he is a movie about a working woman who's closing in on forty and isn't a hopeless case and it promotes passion over domestic security and. Kind of casual sex. Okay I don't care. What do you think of? Nicholas Cage is lying on. The bed fucking love that line. Instead of I'm GonNa take you to the bedroom isn't that interesting? I like the specificity of it. From the first always thought it was very intelligent metal film over the years I've kind of drawing comparisons between this screenplay with Woody Allen which I've talked to you about before Woody Allen characters usually very different than these characters that are often can self effacing and also the sabotage their own relationships. But. There's something about the wheat and intelligence in the screenplay that you don't find in a lot of romantic comedies and especially you don't find them in the romantic comedies that were coming out a decade after this, and in the last fifteen, twenty years as well to be moonstruck is defined as to be affected by the moon and become mentally unbalanced romantically sentimental austin fantasy or reverie unable to go act normally especially as a result of being in love. In the movie, there's essentially two major romantic relationships ships in the film. This three I guess major relationships in the film. So loretto Johnny is the Least Roy Manticore Them Loretta and Ronny is obviously the center, the focus of this movie, and there's Rosen Cosmo as well. So that Loretta parents. There's a series of from lose, which is how Loretta and Ronny Begin and that also includes Cosmo and Mona as you've mentioned and Rose and John Mahoney's Perry. So these are also really important in shaping the narrative but then not the film's focused and on the sidelines then rose's brother Raymond and his wife Rita. So there's a whole bunch of relationships and you could also put in the is Johnny and his Mama Yes which is a pivotal relationship as it turns out Loretta is portrayed as a bit of dowdy accountant slash keeper at the side of the film, and this profession is typically associated with risk aversion or comfort that old adage of good in the handy's with two in the bush. And we. Wonder because of that, if she settled when it comes to Johnny. She even has to force him to propose properly and that interactions are obviously quite labor how we will both have. To. Chino saw. The special fish. Office or the pitch tonight not before the plane ride. Babo we'll have the medical siegbert they'll give you a base for your stomach eat that oily fish go up in the Air Sicily you'll be green in your hands on his wedding. Your look after me but she thirty seven and she's getting married to gain whose marriage was cursed as we know she's a widow because her husband was hit by a bus because father didn't pay for the wedding and she wasn't married in a church William Days Essay moonstruck or how to ruin everything. He wrote Johnny satisfies. Loretta is half conscious. Wish to put a sexual desire to slate that relationship is definitely a conflict but I always feel like to her sexual desire to sleep Maine's the she had some kind of sexual desire before. I. Don't really get that from Loretta I this. Movie where is the sexual desire that she had? It could be that she that being with? Johnny, it will eventually put it completely to sleep like kind of on its way out because she sort of knock had passionate romance for what two years I think. It's been since a husband died and presumably she's not really been with anybody since then it could taper off if she marries johnny and just kind of cuts temptation away. Well, he's definitely the right person to do that because in this movie, He is portrayed as dislike sobbing Mama's boy with no idea about how to romance anybody. Daniella I don't know he plays him really kindly this huge sympathy for Johnny Yeah. He's a lovable buffoon. You can see that he means well, he's got very warm is he is meant to be a full and he is because he's so warm. It's not cool. There's this reaction from Loretta parents man she says that she's marrying Johnny I'm getting married. Again. You did this what before him were up? The guy died and what killed he got hit by a bus no bad luck mother and I were married fifty two years nobody died. You will married what two years somebody's don't get married again Loretta it don't work out for you. Cosmic doesn't want to pay for the waiting again because he doesn't like Johnny and as she said Roses just glad that Loretta is in love and she also the question you love him. Getting married. Again. Johnny. Come here I don't like. GOING TO MARRY HIM COSMO You Love Him Loretta. No good. When you love them, they drive you crazy because they know they can. And then along comes running who instantly embodies the opposite of Johnny, the fire and the passion that Johnny's obviously lax and of course, there's this a strange relationship and that's that kind of hot headed nature that I was talking about before they haven't spoken to each other Johnny and Ronnie in many years because of what runny perceives as a slight, which is an utterly ridiculous lot but quite comedic in the movie and it allows Nicholas Cage to. Give just such a at amazing performance in this saying and it reminds me when I watch scenes like this that he's in why I think Nicholas Cage has the capacity to be a brilliant actor. Do agree he's great in this movie. He's absolutely great. I mean lately, I've seen a couple of things he's done and it almost feels like he's lost his talent but I don't think he has lost his talent I just don't think they're writing drills. And they're trying to kind of mainstream him and it doesn't work because he has this kind of torture Zane equality raising Arizona which came out this same year. I'm not sure if you've seen that one but he's that kind of same zany tortured character in raising Arizona. Yeah. When he's great, he's amazingly great. I would say it's exactly the same as Michael Keaton? If you put Michael Keaton in a row with the character supposed to be sorted out, then it doesn't read as real. Bad blood between Johnny. Yes I that's not Johnny's fault. To find. Justice. I lost my hand I lost my bribe. His Johnny has brought. You take my heartbreak. Nikkei Nick Cage in this movie really is sort of Romeo if Romeo grew up in the Bronx. And everything about him is sort of there so that share can bounce off of it. He he almost feels a little unreal to me while I watch the film in a way that she had dozen do him sexually appealing in this movie? Yeah I know. I get you in the whole Bermuda the pig life say ooh. Daddy tank top while he's doing the bread. Our. Christmas let's talk about that because that's like my favorite quote in this movie where he says Chris. Brandenburg knife. He tells the story to share about what's his slot with Johnny, which is the he was distracted and his hand got cut off in the slicer. and. So after that his films I, left him and he says I lost my hand lost my bride and now johnny has his hand Johnny has his bride. The most augmented man I have ever no. I'm in love with this man. But he doesn't know that. I never told them because he could never love anybody since he lost his hand in his girl and that is just my favorite quote of this movie. There are so many but that's my favorite. It's so absurd will this is my favorite quite. There are three kinds of pipe. There's the kind of pipe you have, which is garbage and you could see what that's gotten. Then, there's bronze which is pretty good. Unless something was wrong and something always goes wrong. And then. which is the only fight by US it costs money. It costs money because it saves. That's a good line I always forget about that scene fucking lost it. That was the biggest laugh I got out of the movie this watch that's in the young couples bathroom, and then he's repeating it in the next scene to impress the. My? Sorry. So good all of these lines they feel like throwaway lines and absurd lines at times, but that old used to elevate the characters. So this this line that I love in the bakery there. I mean. It's silly line intended for laughs, and that's what gets. It does also get across this lack of Roy Manson Ronnie's life and naturally then guess if taking it literally, this sets him up to later become moonstruck. and. That's the start of this relationship between Ronnie and Laura even though she so hesitant to accept it at this point. After. That scene she takes him in and she cooks him a steak and tells him he'll eat up bloody so that it feeds his blood and then she diagnoses him dome was a trap for you. She caught you and you couldn't get away so you. You chewed off your own foot that was the price you pay for your freedom you know johnny the do with it. You did what you had to do between you and you, and now now you're afraid because you know the big party was a wolf that has the courage to bite off its own hand to save itself from the trap of the wrong love I WanNa talk about rose and Kuzma and their relationship their heads a very dynamic portrayal of relationship that has been going on for fifty years. I don't know how old they are in the movie but he go imagine that are encroaching on the seventies cosmology is dating another woman Mona which rose obviously doesn't know about but she has her suspicions and so she's always on this hunt for why Men seek out the women. The beautiful thing about this relationship for me is that it's so human. There isn't a big scene where rose confronts him and there's no violent arguments between the two the conduct been married too long in that Polsat point and so. What happens instead is the he goes listens to his Vicki Carr record and she says things like now is now he's GonNa listen to that damn record. When he comes to bed, he won't touch me that kind of show you that mature about these things and there's certain things that you put up within a marriage and hope that they go away. You hope they proved not to be true. especially when you hit a certain age and I think I think that relationship is portrayed in a really beautiful way. I actually think that the relationship between rose and COSMO. Is. So good that it borders on being frustrating that it's not the main story and that shared story isn't shrunk down Olympic. Jakarta's is phenomenal in it. Ask a question. Women. I think it's because they fear Jeff she poses the question very early on about is it because men fear death of just before that Loretta has spoken with her dad and he gives to clues that that is the reason. The first thing he says, I, can't sleep anymore. It's too much like death and then he has his great moment with Loretta worries like. This is all this guy is thinking about is he's he's hitting appoint his life where it's getting closer he's getting scared and he's trying to grab the things at the expense of the people that are most important to him and the people that have come who've come three for him and who are getting older with him and as is human nature in an. Extra Marital Affair I mean you get these joys and this immediate happiness that you don't necessarily get with somebody that you know so well, and these things the stoic man there are things that cosmo does with an full Mona that he hasn't done for rose obviously hasn't done rose for such a long time you know my mother guest my father was in somebody. Mona. Pizza cheap goods. Who Am I to talk? How can you ask me that? You. Make you feel guilty guilty? I'm guilty of what? Only. God Can points a Finger Loretta? So Loretta has of course on the gun her transformation here and she's no longer this daddy accountant that began the movie. But this gorgeous woman who's prevent presented herself differently for Ronnie than she ever did for Johnny. Sorry. Can I just say one of my favorite lines is when he says Mentions. A heritage headed done. So in this scene, obviously running is now no longer the baker, but he is this well dressed lover of the arts and the first time runny wouldn't thought that this was possible. The movie is uncovering that true selves in at this point, this is the self that they have hidden behind pain and misfortune previously. So the pain of the slot, the hand losing his bride and Loretta losing her husband. You look. Beautiful. Had done. Thank you. Sort of weirdly contradictory because in that first scene, it's sort of like my life is over I lost my hand I lost my chance at love and now I am relegated to this dirty bread basement make lows, and that is my future. Then he sleeps with share and suddenly his life you know it's been team again that's a good analogy that he's stuck in the basement he's stuck in the dock the. Whole, the sweaty mess he even lives above the bakery. Yeah, and his speak melodramatic proclamation of all. You know my life is over is actually really thin and weak compared to share. It's very hard and very instilled belief that her life is over because she's actually marrying Johnny and voluntarily consenting to a sort of climatize life while Loretta is out in the open with Ronnie, she doesn't really care who sees her. COSMO is hiding. He doesn't WanNa, be seen in this circumstance and when he is saying, he makes a quick and very uncomfortable getaway. Half. You're engaged and you married. Daughter I won't have like a couple top. All right. So What does he say to them like? This never happens. To Loretta. She. Rose as always is nothing but authentic and it's kind of refreshing. The date with Perry. It feels platonic from the stop for variety of reasons. He's obviously interested in young women and she seeking answers for a why a man chases other women and we'll get to that reason soon. But that interactions a really easy which is something she no longer has with COSMO. You're a little boy and liked to be bad. To, my apartment. You see how the other half left. I'm too old for you. I think the most wounding moment in the film was when he says to, how will you later for him as a personality disorder? Not. Too Young. I just got You know how to hurt a guy. I, don't you older you Nottingham Business Sorry. I. Think she. Wins Him pretty deeply at the end of that as well in Hawaii in her righteous kind of why he keeps saying it's freezing out here. You know I guess I can't come upstairs. No why because I married and he then says again, it's freezing out here. Clearly hoping for that invite this is a bit of vindication for her. She's feeling unwanted and by the end of the state, she is wanted by somebody who she doesn't necessarily have any interest in and it's not something that she would have pursued anyway. Even if she did meet somebody, she had an interesting. So really the only person I think that comes out of this series of dates looking bad is cosmo. But this this funny citing where. And Perry walk past COSMO's father who is credited as the old man. I don't know if we ever get his name WHO's out walking his five note seven dogs. She explains to Johnny afterwards he's got the wrong idea and that's all she says Roy's doesn't refuse. Perry. On moral grounds she refuses because it would go against her in nature I love when he asks have why he can't come up says she says cannon by twin twice back. Because I know who I am because I know who I am fantastic raisin I love that it isn't righteous. I love that isn't moral. It's just not her. Johnny comes back from Palermo, and this all leads directly to the final scene, which is said at the Castellinis dining table and everything comes out. So Loretta feelings for Rani and vice versa the breakdown of her engagement to. which he ends up initiating funnily enough and rose finally confronting COSMO about his extramarital affair followed by his acquiescence and Subsequent Declaration of Love you've got this setup. The old comes together in the most Italian of settings which is around the dinner table with the entire family and that even though his family's been going through challenging periods since the film began, it ends with unity family unity. And embracing Johnny into their family as well, which is going to be is going to be the brother-in-law and a really important and very noticeable line. That kinda sticks out near the end of the film is when Loretta says I, need my family around me right now because there's no acknowledgement of how much these people meeting to one another really. I can't marry you. What if I married you my mother will die the hell. Are you talking about we're engaged? What are you? Talking about a promise okay. He proposes because my mother was dying and now she's not johnny a forty two years. Well, she's still running your life and you are shuttled does love his mother. Or Big Lie. Okay because I have a rig right here. All right. The engagement is off time. You will see that this is the best thing time you'll drop dead and company a funeral in a red breast. What? What The ring by the end of the movie, we've had this complete one eighty with these characters loiterers happily in love no longer settling rone's been redeemed for the slight. He felt by taking his brother's fiancee he finally has his bride. Johnny. is still part of a loving family that includes his mother and now his brother Ankles Monroe's have rekindled their romance. So everything that happened played its part in bringing them together like this. The good thing about this movie is none of it feels forced Noah. I. Mean You competitive with the movie like pre to kiss so puts his wife like they kinda low to high concept kind of movies coming out in. The early nineties in the early eighties and it's really nice the subtlety with which is films been made even the movies that have been made over the turn of the century as well. Those movies that were made in the late nineties and early two thousands, and some of them are really fun and really enjoyable notting. Hill as engaging as it is has nothing on the script of Moonstruck have someone ended up playing. Occurs. My sister is under the. Plane at it's GonNa Explode. I don't believe in curses. Into let's talk about superstition because that plays a big part in this movie. Yes. The film is filled with philosophies. Some of them a- true romance is torture best avoided. Don't be polite with family unless you mean to insult them. Getting married, fast, and easy will bring bad luck. Men Cheat because they feared death. And like a little adult that loss one everything is temporary, do agree with the philosophies yes otaru. Every. Single one of them. Some of the superstitions that a prison obviously roses questioning why men seek younger women all other women and Johnny tells the story of Adam and Eve God took a rib from Adam and maybe now maybe men chase women to get the rip back I mean I hear that story I think what that's. That's gotta be such as much sense when he says it. Obviously. To read a believes that her third marriage file because her father didn't pay for the wedding was married her husband die. But what you don't know is I think I had bad luck. What do you mean where we got married at the City Hall and I I? Think he had left Mary, you do see a reverence to bad luck in a scene with the dodd that opening saying because he says to her I won't come. You gotta you gotTa give me away. The first time. I had bad luck. No. Maybe if if you gave me away and I got married in a church in a wedding dress instead of down at the city hall with strangers standing outside the door and maybe I wouldn't have had the bad luck. For the dad to acknowledge that you know it's like, okay will this family really does have a very ingrained belief system? So maybe maybe my nature does drama, you'd told me I have to go with it. I can take hold of myself and I can. Say. Yes to some things and other things that are going to ruin everything. I can do that. Loretta and Ronny will have a short lived future together. Do Really yes. You think they're going to get divorced or dead or something but. You know it was like we talked about the attraction episode how that kind of passion always has doomed feature. It's pastor in order to be passion Luek, I'm I'm glad you didn't make moonstruck too. And, then there is the other big kind of philosophical. In the movie which is the wolf and the hand is really the first big saying between running Loretta where they discuss their thoughts and feelings toward life and love through a series of guess what you could call euphemisms. It echoes an earlier scene during which the shopkeeper and his wife discussing how he looks at another woman. I. Know Wolf and everybody I ever met and I see a Welfare Young Loretta says that Rony is a wolf and he chewed off his own hand to get out of a relationship which he thought of as a trap. By doing this, she's turning the accident in which he lost his hand into a choice that he made rather than Janis foe. So now he's alone because he's scared that another relationship will bring back that both and he only has one hand left. That's why there's been the woman since that wrong woman. Okay. You're scared to death of what the woeful do of you try and make that mistake again what are you doing I'm telling you life stop. Oh. What do you think the wolf is it's a it's a lot of things. It's Canal T. It's Hell we look after ourselves how we defend ourselves desire I think it is a sexual desires well, words from this movie that confound People Online when Nick Cage 'cause Loretta applied without ahead. Without a thought. So the idea is that she's kind of walking blindly into this marriage in his life is a lighter moment where he says playing it safe is just about the most dangerous thing a woman might you could do. So the idea that Loretta has fire burning inside of her and to make any decisions that would still that file. Dole. That flame would be disastrous for her when she's talking about him and his foot I mean I've heard. There's been Freudian talk about the film and that that represents his paints but I think that's a little outdated and bit dull. I don't really know what she means when she says a wolf without a foot neither do I that is an interesting line. The first time she called him a wolf is after they go up from the bakery the second on that this reference comes up his after they've slept together. He now instead of her describing him as well. He describes himself as a Wolf I feel like this conway and more generally characteristic why as well but he also says that doesn't make. Her a Lamb Loretta is a wolf as well. Yeah, and I guess the connotation of a lamb is the when it comes to a wolf is the dilemmas helpless and it's prison really only to be devoured would and Lauretta is none of those things they both have that fire in them that long for something more that lungs felt like true crazy adrenaline pumping romance there's another quote and it kind of ties in with what you assigned that maybe they do have doomed romance. I love you. Not Not, like they told you love is. And I didn't know this. But loved Olmec things Nice. It ruins everything. It breaks your hot. It makes things a mess. We aren't here to make things. Perfect. SNOWFLAKES Stars. Not Us. Not Us we are here to ruin ourselves and. And to break our hearts and love the wrong people and and die I mean the storybooks are bullshit. Would you come upstairs with me and and? In my bed. Part of the reason for shared success as an actress in the nineteen eighties was. Took these roles that really downplayed her celebrity and instead in films like Sucrose Moonstruck, and particularly in mosque she played is very down to Earth woman struggling with the complexities of life. What's good about this performance on Sharon screen generally talent flashy Sheila's is polling Kyle Right about share as Loretta that she's devastatingly funny and sinuous and beautiful and thought that those were good descriptors for her in this movie the share of ten knees off the moonstruck when she made the she released believe and she released the believe music video and she was so obviously affected by plastic surgery at that point. That is not the share of moonstruck. Anybody is equating to it's like she was a different person in moonstruck. She was ten years later and she is today I mean she looks like she does today except her face moves and you can tell that God did it. And she's not wearing an outrageous white week sue could she plays a lesbian? Yeah. But she almost disappears in that movie I feel like she's really good in Silkwood, but it's not shares me the it's Meryl Streep's movie. She made silkwood mosques suspect the witches of Eastwick moonstruck that was pretty much it for the eighties The next one was mermaid. She apparently spent a long time after winning the Oscar trying to find a vehicle for her she was employs talks and she reference to view on Letterman that she was going to film called fatal beauty which I think we'll be Goldberg and being. And then after mermaids which was nineteen ninety, she had a cameo in the Playa which was a Robert Altman movie and she had a cameo in Predator pate and then she was in if these walls could talk, hi, my name is Sharon mad doctrine do abortions and it's a woman's right to have an abortion. She also directed the segment that she was in I, directed the segment about having abortions and cast myself as the doctor. That's the thing she's directed. Then she was in tea with Mussolini in one, thousand, nine, hundred, nine, she was burlesque, and then she was Mama Mia. something. Not Like That especially face. Look about twenty five years old. Romantic comedies obviously been a big part of Hollywood especially as far back as. The adult romantic comedies. Really, began with Hepburn and Tracy in the thirties and forties. They do those screwball comedies but I also did woman of the year and romantic comedies that were actually about the romance and that were sophisticated and well written. But, then they took a dive in the fifties because they had Doris Day rock Hudson films they would charming but they were very innocent and Cornyn a little bit teenage jury, and that's way Norman Jewison got his start as a director but you do get great ones through the fifties like Roman holiday and just a couple of films that were of a high across. Around the time light breakfast the lost great romantic comedy because there's a gap of about seventeen sixteen years through the sixties they wouldn't know movies that you would say, okay, that's true. I. Don't remain to comedy I mean there were films like charade in the Common Thicke, right but they know what you cool. bromance movies. You know charade has a whole sub crime plot and the apartment has a suicide attempt in far more involved. But then a puff not you had like a movie in the park which again sort of like it's good but it's not kept and Tracy and then there were Elvis movies that was in the sixties. But then in nineteen, seventy, seven whole came out and that was woody Allen he he not only makes a profitable romantic comedy. He sets a new genre benchmark. So I think that one when any whole came out, it was like this. This is the way to do romantic comedy click two years later he did Manhattan. So when you say genre benchmark humane, just an exemplary example of that genre is that. What you're talking about. It's sort of like when psycho came out and changed Torah I think that any whole had that effect on the romantic comedy genre there was a seventeen year low, and if you look at any whole, the genre went through one more evolution and that was when Harry met Sally Nine Hundred Ninety nine twelve years later what when Harry met Sally did was it took the overt intellectualism of? Any whole out of it and made it a little bit more without wanting to sound like, I'm down on putting down because I love when Harry met. Sally. But it just took the things about woody. Allen that were a bit idiots idiosyncratic for a commercial audience at took them out of it but it was still like any hole and when Harry met Sally is how romantic comedy movies and made today. Although when Harry met Sally still probably feels more intelligent than most romantic comedies. Today I'm only talking about what I would call good romantic comedies through the eighties. You've had this huge number of teenage kind of romance? Films Direct to by John Keys and they were super successful life. silly. It feels like there was a lot of movement away from romantic comedy as a self sustaining genre the thing that moonstruck and. Having, common is they're extremely literate and that has been great deal of attention pay to the screen play. But then of course, once you had when Harry met Sally, you got pretty woman and he had a romantic comedy became major box office and obviously the emergence of Sandra Bullock and make Ryan Julia. Roberts. When Harry met Sally was written by Nora Ephron. Who wrote what film that shares in? Didn't know this until I was doing research for this podcast, but she wrote Silkwood would. Share I did know that. He never put her together with that film. No not anymore because she is so intrinsically linked with that idea of the romantic comedy. She would obviously go onto riots sleepless in Seattle. You've got mile. Jillian Julia when Harry met Sally that was hugely successful ninety, three, million dollars. Pretty woman the next year four, hundred, sixty, four, million dollars, and that turn Julia Roberts into just a an overnight success. ballpark figure out much. Six full nights days to. Four thousand Six nights at three hundred, eighteen, hundred, you want days to two, thousand, three, thousand done. Holy. Shit. Sleepless in Seattle in nineteen ninety three, the first period Tom Hanks Meg, Ryan Two, hundred, twenty, eight, million dollars, four weddings and a funeral the next year, two, hundred, and forty, six, million dollars. So, from that, you get all of these stars dialect stomaching vehicles because that's such a popular movie. So you've got as you said Julia Roberts you've got Meg Ryan you've got hugh grant on the side of things. Notting. Hill was released the same weekend as the phantom menace, which was first star wars film in more than one and a half decades and nothing he'll went on to make three hundred and sixty, four, million dollars. So I mean. So the genre had by now become this money-making machine. Most of the films could be made these small production budgets. The biggest part of any of these productions was the fee for the stars. Johnny. Take your. Leave nothing. You'd nothing but the skin over bones. All right. Anyway we've turned down enough so and usually talk about the release and reception. Will mean struck opened in limited release on December Sixteenth Nineteen eighty-seven the same day as MGM's although more expensive antic comedy overboard before going wide a month later. It was a second strong dose of chef audiences that year after the celebrated release of the witches of Eastwick six months earlier. Marine struck debuted at sixteen on the US box office in its opening, and that's unlimited release but shut up to number three upon wide release then remained in the top ten for twenty consecutive weeks. Word of mouth and critical acclaim tuned moonstruck into an unexpected hit with a gross of over eighty five million dollars. It became the eighth highest grossing film of Nineteen Eighty Eight and the biggest owner for MGM overboard finished in sixty. Fifth Place. Roger Ebert. Called at the best comedy in a long time while conceding that the film worked as a madcap ethnic comedy. He also noted a certain bittersweet yearning that comes across as inevitably romantic polling. Kale wrote Moonstruck isn't heartfelt. It's an honest contrivance. The mockery is Gideon Monster designed for grand. Passion with its special lushness. It's a rose tinted black comedy. The Washington. Post called it a joyous love story of the principal actors. He said they're an irresistibly of bake couple cage playing on the edge where he likes it share creating a fairy realist captivating yet cautious. Over Mitchell of the New York Times liked the film but noted the process whereby Loretta and fall in love is less appealing than the lodge family drama unfolding around the CASTELLINIS. Kitchen Table Moonstruck was nominated six Oscars including best picture and at one three Shantha. Best. Actress. Olympia, Dukakis best supporting and John. Shanley. For best original screenplay in two thousand, eight, I, if I ranked moonstruck as the eighth best romantic comedy of all time. Best I'm surprised that overboard wasn't most successful when I was growing up at just always seem to be on TV? It's a great. Great Fun. It bummed when it came out but it's Well regarded now, even go to remake a couple of years ago that nobody saw no under the Sora. Was Goldie Hawn no no had Anna Farris in it. Oh Gosh, and they reverse the role. So I think it's the man that has amnesia because I guess I told that was progressive. NFL is kind of a fun actress. Not. Yeah. We'll leave that day. So you ready for a quiz. Yes. I'll start if you want. Okay which filmed share by her own admission most want to do after moonstruck. Was it a maybe she was in to get made. Yes let somebody else she devil. Oh, a yearn urine timmy that movie what did she wanted to be married fish. Yes you wanted to be married. Fisher money's Mary Fisher and I live by palace in the see. That's good. GonNa. Give you half a point just for that. Presented John Patrick Shanley with his Oscar for best original screenplay Eastwood. Was Audrey Hepburn and Gregory Peck. John Pepper. Thank. Everybody whoever punch to a kissed me in my life. And everybody who I ever punch dog kiss. Let's say on that theme name. All three major national awards that John Patrick Shanley has won during his career he's won an Oscar. attorney. Annika Globe. He's won an Oscar for Moonstruck, a tiny food doubt and the Pulitzer Prize for drama. Doubt how much older is share to Nicholas Cage? I think share is twenty years older eighteen when they made the movie share was forty one and he was twenty three. Yeah. She had fought him and apparently they got along like you said but still I just think that you never think of the age difference when you watch moonstruck and it's twenty years practically I heard that she found him don't WanNa, use the word difficult to work with. But she said that he was a strange kind of person to work with. Share Toma Jewison before they stopped, I'm difficult I'm very difficult. She said about herself she's the common denominator of all the stories of from old the sets. That's True Vincent Gardenia who played cosmetic has serene was also nominated for an Academy Award for best supporting actor in nineteen seventy, three's bang the drum slowly which moonstruck cast. My also appeared in that film LBJ Caucus. Daniella was Olympia Dukakis. You sounded so sure of a is good. Doesn't it? If you've got it right? I, would have done your research on that one has anyone got anything right? Well, I said twenty years and it was eighteen saw feel like that was close enough and I got two out of three of the one you said. So that's close enough. What that's not but yours is. Off. So, two out of three, hundred, sixty, seven percent and I said twenty years and it was eighteen. So that's actually ninety percent. Go blow out into a sock Damian. Lunatic. Wow I, kind of caught my God. Okay. So what is shares ruining sherline sock as Ian of your such A. I. If that is the easiest question, you could ask me I would have no idea and I don't know what Madonna's real name either Madonna Chick Attila I'm going to say sa- county to county. See I kind of there was somewhere the ghost of it was in my head. I one I have two more questions. One of them a share had previously auditioned for Nichols film before Silkwood but been turned down a role that eventually went to stock channing. What was that film I had never really of this movie, it's called the Fortune Star Jack Nicholson Warren Beatty in nineteen seventy five what that sounds like when we should seek. And Don here's one fully which superhero role has share apparently twice come close to playing the poison lady that scholars Hinson plays. In fact, and I'm not sure how much I believe this but cat woman I in Tim Burton's Batman returns and more recently in Christopher Nolan's the doc not rises although she. Denied the latter rumors who's GonNa plan old division of an hathaway's character I don't believe either of them. There's no way. Share would survive. The Batman returns set q imagine trying to vacuum pack share into that fucking dot so you lost. A love. Bite on your neck is coming back this morning. What's the matter with you? Your Life's going down the toilet cover up that damn thing. I can. Tell you give us your writing four point five out of five. To be exact I think probably the test of a great film is that as you age it kind of a it gets better. It's like a fine wine and and I can honestly say that's true. Of INSTRUC- I'm with you I give it four and a half out of five i. just feel like everything hits the right now with moonstruck. Lean. Struck instructs you could say and that's the end of our episodes Luke. When you tell us what would be talking about next time Brian Gibson's nineteen, ninety, six courtrooms, thrilla the Jura. Starring the inevitable to more Alec Baldwin. With an early appearance from Joseph, Gordon Levitt and hush. Do that we're doing breakdown David has some very decided ideas about to me more on her onscreen presence and social impact on I'm sure he can't wait to those thoughts with us. Did, you pull the juror role I clicked on the link to the movie I've actually picked, and then I had a list of movies and I thought it would be really funny to say. I'm scared to announce this movie but I've kind of picked for you. And for me because we love Brian Depalma's Carrie nine hundred Seventy S oh. This is my favorite harmony say pressures on Damian. One of those autistic horror movies ever made well Thank you for joining us. Thank you. Thousand. A. Bad. Oar. saw. One user. New Law. Budgen. Soon. Schooling me produce back in. Love.
Mi TV Android Stick Features & Mi Android Stick Leaks Tech News - Phenomenal Guruji
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Touch: Our Most Efficient Regulator
"Let's talk about touch on. Most of isn't regulator hi. I'm Dr Catalina. And this week's episode of sex marks the spot I want to talk to you guys more about touch and the what the power touch does to our body touched from as well as ourselves and how it serves to actually regulate our bodies but then also how we can expand our energy so I one of the things that we have learned is that as humans as mammals touch serves as a way to protect sends signals of safety so when we're thinking about stress and distress and our bodies being tensed all of that is because our body is trying to protect itself. So think about what happens to our bodies when we're actually stressed K. Your heart rate tends to increase your muscles tense. Everything's tries to get smaller. That's your body's natural defenses. It's natural protection so what it's looking for again member in one of my earlier videos about poly bagel theory. I talk about the three systems of our body That actually is it's automatic win. As of protecting itself the first system as mammals and as social beings our body wants to socially engage so touch is a form of social movement when we receive touch from others. That actually is an opportunity for our nervous systems to get regulated by others. We've different studies in humans as well as other animals have shown that being S- purely by being touched by another person heart rate decreases cortisol levels decrease oxytocin increases again. Oxy Tour Tocine is the chemicals in your body that actually make you feel secure and loved and connected all of those things happen surely by touch and when you think about relationships the one thing we know is that this happens within a context and this is the thing that actually where humans tend to really panicked mess up a lot of our automatic bill makeup where because humans have the ability to actually stay in dangerous situations what our bodies begin to do is actually confused and it tends to think all touch if there's any type of trauma or episode where touch no longer felt safe particularly in the context of any type of physical or sexual abuse. Our brain immediately begins to learn touch bad and it's going to again withdraw so one of the things that we want to do. When we're thinking about touch is begin to teach our bodies touch is safe and positive K so one of the things that I recommend couples to begin to do is actually begin to just touch each other's hands studies have shown that purely by couples who hold hands or when a couple is one person of the partner of the is actually some distress or sadness or fear purely by a partner touching their hand. Actually we know that that actually league immediately decreases their arousal. They immediately will feel a bit more safe and we know that that can actually be conditioned over time so that individuals become more and more comfortable with touch. And that's where couples can. We can lean in on the relationship to actually support our partners by using touch and again this is not just sexual touch. This is purely grabbing. Someone's hand or putting your hand on their shoulder k. Again non sexual touch is another way of responding and showing that responsiveness holding space for that person to tell them that you feel in here. Their emotions that fosters a sense of safety and in safety we can then feel connected to ourselves and connected to others. Moreover our bodies don't have to keep on chugging charging Chandi they can actually sit down calm and use that conserve that energy to fight other battles rather than feeling like your body has to protect itself constantly cake so when we think about touch we also know that that touch certainly actually while regulating our body can come from but also ourselves so one of the things that I tell clients when they're feeling aroused or stressed is to put your hand on your heart and immediately by placing your hand on your heart protect preferably skin to skin you immediately. You're feeling your Hari. You're noticing your chest expanding and you can apply some pressure so that you can actually begin to self soothe self cuddle. We know that that is also a very efficient way to regulate our nervous systems and to make our body feel safe so both touch from a partner and to yourself. Those are both ways to efficiently regulate your body reduce your razzle and make your body feel safe now. Let's bring this more into the bedroom. Where may is masturbation month and so I want us to talk about how we can lean in on touch in how we before in the stages before we get intercourse with our partners but then absolutely in our self pleasure beginning by gentle touch and using touch actually as almost a body scan to check in with your partner so that they you're touching them in different places throughout their body. What you're doing is actually queuing their focus so that they can begin to connect and appraise assess where in their body. They're feeling any pressure any tension. They can release the pressure with. You're also doing is doing your own assessment. As far as what feels good. What doesn't where's their body at. You're using touch as a as an assessment and a means of connecting and also laying the framework to gradually get their body more and more relaxed when we're thinking about sexual our sexuality in harnessing our sexual energy one of the things that really needs is is real accession and the sense of safety so by gradually using touch again doesn't even have to be massage but literally just touching gently over the skin but starting being very mindful of how you're doing it starting from the head going through your arms going through different body parts again doing somewhat of a body scan doing that with your partner absolutely can prepare the stage so that you can gradually introduce that sexual connection now particularly during masturbation ones In yourself pleasure you can absolutely do the same thing when we think of Self Pleasure. We often just get in there and go now. I remember you can take to start off with the body skin. Start TOUCHING YOURSELF. Shanley self soothe of your body. I using touch to connect with yourself and then explorers. Such valleys recipe. Harness that energy. And then what you see is immunity in prison for his all levels decreased muscle tension st trees overall. Well being improves so I hope that you guys will try some of these self touch and touching your partner exercises to connect and with yourselves. So you haven't already subscribe to my Youtube or follow me on instagram and feel free to reach out with any questions. Have Juicy Week guys? Stay safe and healthy cheers.
Interviews - Juliet Landau - Directorial Debut A Place Among The Dead!
"Hi this is juliet landau. And you're listening to the geek. Cast radio network quick and making vampire documentary grabs. Maybe rough only thing i know for sure is that he is a detailed and meticulous. Psychopath you hanish way of taking things to the edge not to see quested the flame. You like a don't with bone this snake. Just come on. i'll talk to you. He's beating you into his world. Stop you think the evil. Give that god coffers. Cyber exc hello and welcome to get cast radio presents. This is an interview series that we hear decastro worker. Doing over various shows that we produce also be syndicated on altered geek and studio two thousand nine to avar shows that we produce. I am your host for this evening to you. If you and mike coming to the studios tonight is juliet. Landau misled does an actress director producer and writer as an actress highlights include her role. As on just wheaton's buffy the vampire slayer and the spin off. Angel co starring in. Tim burton's ed wood as loretta king. She played the recurring role of rita. Tedesco on amazon's number one series bush in two thousand fourteen. She played that in season. Five of that show. She is recurring as cordelia. Hey wait a second. Different show. Different character on. Tnt clause juliet just her visionary feature film director oriole debut apply among the dead which i have just recently seen. And wow we welcome miss. Juliet landau to the show. How are you doing hi. I'm i'm really happy to be here. How are you doing today. I am doing wonderfully And i have seen your direct royal debut place among the dead. And it's very interesting and i will get to that. I have several questions down the line here. But i did. You always want to be an actress. Did you always want to be in acting. You know. I was a ballerina to begin with. So i have a dance background then. I started taking acting classes and really loved the verbal communication getting to use physicality as one aspect of a character but also getting to use dialogue and have a discussions about conceptual ideas and an all of that stuff and so then. I got bitten by the acting bug awesome. Yeah okay. you've played a numerous amounts of characters on your career looking at your filmography. You've played all kinds of characters. Like i know i've played up the whole jerusalem thing because that's mainly where i know you from an like i said you offer. I'm like my buddy. Steve told me i was like. Do you not know who that is like. I'm like dude. That's yeah we need that interview because wo- would be such a pleasure dr. What are some of your favorites out of your characters that you've played over your career. Gosh why would say right now. Jewels which is the character that i play in my direct toil feature debut a place to the dead. And it's right now. It's first window of distribution. Also loretta from ed wood. Jr russillo of course On buffy and on angel. And then. I think i'd have to mention a couple of theater roles. I loved playing. Roberta in danny and the deep blue sea which is a beautiful john. Patrick shanley play and blanche in a streetcar named desire which is one of the best roles ever written which characters were the most challenging for you. every character has its challenges. But that's really what's fun about what i get to do Each role is sort of its own puzzle. Its own recipe of ingredients. And and so. I don't know there. There's always a moment with with the character Where it all starts to coalesce and come together. I think you mentioned Read it to disco on boston. It wasn't a challenging character but one of the things that was interesting is that i think when i started it was hard for me to to to not be at at arm's length and sort of have some preconceived judgements about the characters. She was a character who was married to a man on death row. But as i started to do research about the real women that are involved with with these men and it's quite a a phenomenon. There's actually a believe it or not. There's dating sites for men on death row there's there's all kinds of things that I didn't know about prior to to getting this part But what was sort of interesting is finding at the end of the day. It was almost like a long distance relationship a traditional long distance relationship. Instead of it being across you know countries or states or locations in that way it was Inside of prison outside of prison. And i started to realize how most of us could relate to having had at least one relationship where we sort of fell in love or like with the idea of who the person was rather than the reality of who they truly were or are and so so it was interesting to start to crawl into that skin and sort of see the elements of it that that are very human and we all can relate to. Yeah that's it's always kinda crazy when you you have a picture of somebody in your head and then you see the reality. It's like they're nothing like that absolut absolutely. It was funny. Because i actually rita one of the things i asked was We had The second in command of south central homicide for twenty five years consulted on on my film place among the dead and so when i was doing I knew south from before. And so when i was doing a bar a bosh i called him and said well what what do you think about. You know you've come into contact with a lot of these wives and girlfriends and stuff. And he said julia. I put them behind bars. I don't really hanging out with them once. There wasn't there there. It made me laugh. Okay i just thought you might have a take. That would be interesting. He's consult on the police side of it. But i can't really talk to you about that side too much. Yeah okay so kind of think. I know what the answer is going to be to this. Because it's kind of well. All of them are because it's just how could they not be but i know some sometimes some are not so which characters were the most fulfilling for you to play. Oh gosh well. I mean all of the ones i previously bench and i would have to say we're incredibly fulfilling but there is nothing like the theater and doing the run of play so i would have to say roberta and danny and the deep blue sea. Because it was we were originally gonna do a six week run and we ended up doing a six month run in los angeles which is not a theater town yeah so it was incredible because of the rave reviews and audience response and repeat business and all that stuff we we ran for six months straight we every night we were more than sold out like way past capacity had to add seats So that was a tremendous experience and and also Blanche in a streetcar named desire. Just because it. It's so profound in the way that the you know the all of the dynamics of the character so i i would have to mention a couple of the theater roles just because you get to live with them over such a such a period of time and they get to grow much like when you're doing either a series regular recurring role you get that experience Obviously i got a an experience to live for a long time. Withdrew scylla and that was you know really really something to absolutely you mentioned. Your syllabus is the only question. I'll ask about her. What was your favorite part of playing that role because it seems to me just as a viewer of that of that series and of that of those two series that character. It seems like you had a lot of fun doing that i did. She was a delicious character. And i think what. I responded to most was first of all the writing. Joss is a brilliant and visionary writer and creator and i You know the character of drew was multidimensional many times you get villains in their one or two dimensions and she really had so many different sides or she had this epic love affair as well as being a a diabolical character. She was very childlike jewel. She was you know clearly not the most stable mentally of all people or all all vampires included So i think it was the fact that there was just there. Were so many colors to her. And that was. That makes it really fun for an actor before we get to a place among the dead again. When steve told me juliet landau and i'm like hey that's tullow from just like oh good e. a enjoy the voice acting side of acting the most i love tala. It's definitely one of my favorite voice of voice acting roles and also there was a character named la bella that i did in the green lantern movie The thing that i enjoyed the most i would say is that it really even further expands your range in for the character of la bella I i would never have been cast in real life in terms of physically for the character So you get to play roles that you wouldn't necessarily be able to because of the limitations of your age or your type or all of those things that you can transcend with just your voice and you could play with modulating it and you can play with accents and you can play with you know all that kind of stuff so i think that's my favorite part about it and i think my second favorite part is that you don't have to go through any of the primping part and you can basically practically be in your jammies and you know you don't have to have your hair done and often you're either Sometimes you're recording alone in a booth but often you get to work in a semicircle with a group of actors and play off of one another in the moment and that's really like a dance and it's just so much fun. I remember a couple of number of years ago. Now we got to interview Jason marsden and they had mentioned about the the same thing that you're talking about about the voice acting in you know basically you know you don't have to put on a suit and tie or anything like that and i'm like really really jason. Prove it the day after we recorded that interview. He tweeted me a picture of him and his pajamas at a session. Fourth under cats. Eleven is funny. Though i think. A boy st- lois lane in a in a project. And i think that may have been the one i went. And somehow the publicists. There didn't tell me that it was. They were going to be doing the ep k. Of the you know That would be filmed on camera while we were doing it. And and i actually generally go to voice recordings somewhat dressed and stuff and for whatever reason with scheduling that time i was. I think i came straight from the gym. I was sweaty no makeup. My hair was a mess. I walk in and they were like. Do you not get the memo. What memo overshooting on camera today. No are you kidding crazy. And they actually like we. Can we can reschedule your bit. I'm like. I think that might be a good idea wearing like this. This sweaty tank tough. I don't know if that's like this sort of lowest lane persona. There will be the best so so that was funny because it was a one time that i actually showed up assuming i wouldn't be seen and But it ended up working out anyway. No worse things have happened. I think that was justice league throne of atlantis. I think that's right. Yeah that's what i'm impressed. I'm impressed. I also love the character. That voiceover wise. That i love is the little sisters in bioshock. That's a particularly. A fun was a fun recording session and the character was you know was incredible. And how she fit into the game for cool very cool all right now. The thing that everyone's here for a place among the dead your new film. How did this come about. How did you go about writing it. With with devon and the whole the whole thing what what was the genesis of this removing explores the repercussions of growing up under the sway of narcissism and evil. My husband debra weeks deb. Who you're talking that he co wrote and co produced the movie with me and we both come from this background. We wanted to make a movie that we hadn't seen before talk about something that isn't covered in films and really isn't talked about in society as a whole but there is a yearning for if you type in narcissism for search the numbers are staggering has nine million one hundred and twenty thousand videos on the subject. Google has seventy million four hundred thousand results and when you type in psychological abuse It has one hundred eighty eight million google results. of course were getting at this through art and entertainment Right and how was this with with being your direct debut. How was it being on that side of things. 'cause most of the projects you've worked on at least to my knowledge you can always correct me. You've been the actress. You've been the person playing a part that someone has written for you so with you and your husband writing this and crafting this and you directing everything to go along with it. How was that process for you. How did how did that work in your brain and all that you know. I had directed to shorts before but this was the first time directing a scripted narrative in it as well as directing it which means that you're switching between subjective objective constantly while onset. At least the thing that's interesting in terms of this movie is it is crafted in a way that it's entirely scripted but we wanted to blur the lines of reality so there's part fact factual stuff in there. There's part fiction and part fantastical. And i play alter ego version of myself. As does gary oldman. Ron perlman robert patrick lance henriksen josh weeden and bestselling authors charlaine harris and anne rice appearing for the first time ever scripted movie and even the interview sections in the movie. They're all fo interviews. they're all completely scripted to seem spontaneous and so so it was definitely a. I'll put it this way. It's definitely a bigger workload. It's funny. I just was shooting a movie again. As as solely actress and even though a pre covid protocol safe set the director Passed away from covid. So he was particularly You know it was. It was really low down But the thing that was funny as even when you're shooting really long hours on on film sets. You often go sixteen seventeen hour days. It actually felt like vacation compared to when you're wearing so many hats because you you know you're one component of the whole you're not making every creative choice as director and producer your their first. You're leaving last. you're busy. Went looking at footage after the work day. You're working prepping for the next day. you know. it's basically a twenty four seven twenty four seven gigs. so it was funny because I i was like. Oh the few jobs. I've been back recurring clause and all of that stuff and it actually feels like a really being essentially. I'm in hawaii or something because so much so much less work you know. Even though there's work obviously obviously yeah so with the covert precautions and protocols and all that and everything else how his that how do you feel that his chain. I'm sorry i didn't on this to you before. How do you feel that has changed. Hollywood how do you feel that you know. Obviously it's for the best. Everybody needs to stay healthy but like as the the creative part of it or whatever how much of a hindrance is like. What's the difference between before and now. Well i i agree with you. First and foremost everybody needs to stay healthy and we all need to take care of one. Another the thing that's been interesting for us workwise at this juncture is that we've been doing something which is you know. We made this movie a for a number of reasons. First of all to make an entertaining film but also to give voice to what has affected many to to invite the audience member to become the participant to To open up a dialogue about this subject. Which is is needed right now. We're wearing a time where there's an escalation of narcissism cruelty evil actions bad behavior so one of the things that's been interesting in this time period is that we have doing something that has been very much in line with the vision of why we wanted to make the film and i in having the this kind of conversation and so what's happened is we've been our distributors modern films and they do Events a screening events and so we started thinking about well. Why don't like our premier Why don't we talk to new york comecon. And we ended up being sponsored by new york comic con and that cosmetics and one of the things that was was incredible is that i've been to comecon done a lot of panels and the whole structure that is that generates later ticket sales but this made the film available right there. There's a hub virtually where everyone from all over the world and we've been having that the center streaming Our screening events streams. The movie watches. It together has a q. And a. and then we interact about it right then and it's it is a brand new way to reach the audience and with the closures of cinema everywhere as well as the general direction. That movies were going in before. Cove it This will be some aspect of the future. It's it's the water cooler cinema experience which has been lacking culturally. Everything's been so spread out. And disperse people watch stuff at their on streaming and there's no sort of coming together to talk about it Other than people separately doing blogs and and so it's been kind of incredible to get to actually be in the moment when people are watching it together and ben having these discussions on a global level. And so that's something that i wouldn't have happened Pre covid and in thinking about how to do it. And what's been extraordinary is every single interactive zoom with the audience. The entire audience has stayed and these zooms are lasting for hours. Every time it's been just so profound and so powerful in the movie it's self. I mean when i was watching i was like this melds like you said so many things. It's since about. I would say two thousand eight two thousand nine a true crime fan. You know watching investigation discovery. Or i've seen every single forensic files episode multiple. Talk i can. I can hear the first sentence out of peter thomas. His mouth may the disease. I can hear the first sentence out of his mouth and know what it is. And i'm like okay. No i can't deal with that episode right now kind of thing. But your movie melds that kind of thing in with an actual fictitious universe. And i think that is so interesting paul. Kahl thank you you know we. We chose to use the the you know. John referee number of reasons. I mean first of all. It's an entertaining genre. If you type in vampires there are two two hundred and seventy eight million and google results and same with when you look at true crime like the result the numbers of of results are astounding. And and so we wanted to really in our film. You're never quite sure there's a character you're never quite sure. Is he a vampire or is he a serial killer whose emulating a vampire in the way that he murders like. You're talking about in terms of the true crime you know. We wanted to lull the audience into a sense of safety to explore unsafe and radical ideas. It was a way also to bring in my history And my connection to buffy and angel and also the other characters and actors histories and the vampire felt like the perfect metaphor for the ultimate narcissist. And whether he's a serial killer or whether he's a vampire the traits are the same That was what we're really sorted. Why we're using the that this particular thing and that's why we married married in the way that it that the way that it's constructed. Yeah i honestly think the van lake if you think of all the universal movie monsters. The vampire is probably the only one you could. You know. really accurately say that it's also it could also be serial killer kind of thing because i mean the mummy just unwrap it frankenstein. You put a back in his head. the wolfman you shave him. He's fine now. I know that you're talking about the zoom Audience watches and things like that. You've actually we're going to be. I'm going to actually have this up december eleventh. You've got an event coming up saturday. December twelve yes. We are doing it with along with wales comecon and i. It's the another interactive event and we will be Streaming the movie doing the qna and having the interactive zoom. and so. yeah that's amazing. I'm excited that you're gonna be posting before our next event so hopefully everyone can listen to this and then you can go check that out. All the links will be in the show notes for the interview post. You know as can say one of the things. That's been so fascinating. Conversations is how much the film is resonating And and how. Many people have started the conversation with things. Like i've never told anybody this before. But and this particular part of this dialogue made me think about that. Which is exactly what i was saying. Wanting the viewer to become the participant in in the movie is that's what we're really looking at is that self reflection and The whether it's in in in the case that of the movie it's familial narcissism but Whether it's an ex-boyfriend a wife a family member. A boss a coworker a friend or are world leaders one of the things that keeps emerging and all of these talk backs is how people start saying it feels like we're talking about one person no matter what like these traits are so much the same that i feel like you're talking about my ex husband or i feel like you're talking about my girlfriend or i feel and that's Been one of the things that that has been a merging from these discussions because everybody. Hey you know you're you're approaching topic that everyone has some sort of. It's sad to say but some sort of experience with yes. I don't think there's anybody in on our entire planet while not experienced some form of evil sad that is to say but it's out there and waller does suck you know we all have things like the first thing i thought of as i was watching it was i know i am so self deprecating to the point of my depression just go even further than it already does right because i i just i always say oh. I'm the worst. Or i'm this. I'm not in the in the last couple of Because this you are my first while not my first but the first interview. I'm actually producing by myself in over a year because my computer had been in storage for the last year. So it's like. Oh god i don't wanna hear this up. I don't wanna screw this up. Oh my god. I am and in a few of the episodes that i've been recording in the last couple of weeks. I'm like a- at some point in the episode. It's like it's okay. i'll fix it in the editing. I'm the worst. Podcast are ever anyway. So it's not like anyone's gonna listen to this but people should listen to this one but you know that it's so what you're sharing is exactly what we've been talking. I mean devon. I talked about the fact that we had never seen a film where the voiceover sounded remotely like the thoughts running through our minds. And you know we did some studies on this and even from for people that come from the most healthy loving stable backgrounds it turns out that eighty percent of the thoughts in all of our minds. those voices running. Those tapes are negative. That's a huge amount of derisive. Inner monologue going on and so what we really wanted to look at it. Especially if you come from this kind of background you're not your authentic self and you let those negative thoughts and voices run you and lead you to destructive choices The whole point of the movie is that there is a different way as an adult. You can make different choices. You can break those agreements because we all make agreements especially in our formative years and you know it with our families we make those agreements and then you operate out of those agreements to a point but as as adults we can say no. I'm not going to do that anymore. you know. Obviously in the movie my alter ego is not doing that. She's letting the unconscious run the show. She's letting those voices lead her Hopefully i'm not doing that in in in life anymore. But i did for a long time and so what you're sharing about the thoughts i mean that's one of the things that people are Are responding to so strongly. Is you know we sort of pretend. that those thoughts don't exist and what's been people feel. I think liberated to say. Oh my god i have. I say i'm terrible. And i screwed this up and drive myself in this way that you know isn't mansion if we spent even twenty percent less than that like we had twenty percent more energy instead of having those negative thoughts to what could be positive contributing to the world. You know what. I mean like you know. And it's and it's so interesting of what what you're talking because because in distilling where do those thoughts come from. And how many of those are actually legitimately my thoughts or how is that. How am i running that from something else that you know. I was either told her that. I made this agreement on and It's sort of interesting to step back and look at that and say And one of the things. That was interesting in scripting. it is devon. i sort of pooled. We are our backgrounds. are are so similar not socio economically not location wise. But in every other way. And that's the thing that we're finding is that it. It doesn't it crosses all all boundaries across crosses all parts of the world all of that stuff but what was interesting in in in doing that and recording that this stuff is thinking at. I like wow you know. It's sort of particularly revealing these ugly thoughts. And oh you know. People are going to think whatever they're going to think about and the thing that everybody's been saying is like oh i have those all the time. Those are my thoughts. I felt like you were recording a lot of my thoughts the narrower. The narration really does drive the film those well as obviously the rest of the pieces that drive the film but the narration is. I feel is a big part of it especially when you get towards the end. I don't necessarily want to spoil it for people. But i'm gonna say there is a scene where your character is in a room by herself and there are times where like for me like i try my best every day to wake up and do the best i can but if just one little thing. All's it takes is one little crack at it just ruins the rest of my day. There have been times where i'm like. I just want to be in a padded room and just scream for hours on end. That's all i need. I just need to let it. And there've been times Cup last year. Whatever when my When karen my my wife and i were out loot we were living in illinois at the time I slipped and fell on the ice. I just laid there and screamed for twenty minutes. Because i couldn't move our gosh. You know so. It's like all of these emotions. All of these feelings hurt. Yes we want project the best self we can however also takes and also it takes us one bad day and it just it just one of those things where a a switch flips. And you're like well. This day is sunk may try to get it to be still a day after that sinking moment routes sometimes you just need to go to bed and just let let it let that day go okay. That's that day. let's you know. Continue on to the next one. Well it's interesting to what you're talking about because how many of us have had a moments in a room alone where you're having an excess or whatever of emotion you end up in a room on your own when you've had that that day when you've had that bad thing that thing that sort of set you off the wrong direction or feeling like you know it. It's another thing that's been so interesting as i had a woman. Write me a letter. Who is a bafta nominated hugely successful Producer and i didn't know her prior. She saw the film and she said you know. I've never told anybody before but this was this was my mother and i spent my life basically and she's had all these amazing deal. She's put together like all this incredible stuff and she said every day i would wake up. It's sort of what you were describing. I'd wake up and it was like crossing this abyss to feel like i deserved to actually do this. And some people have an easier go visit. Some people don't but for me every single day and now it's gotten easier. It's so amazing that you're right you're you you've Directed this movie and at this movie is having the kind of response that is in the discussions that it's having because if i had seen a movie like this when i was younger i maybe would have had this discussion way before the like. You're the first person i've talked about it. And obviously it's great to know. You're not the only person that that you know. And i would have never known about her from looking at her life on the outside that would say every morning it was like crossing an abyss right because we don't always even though social media has even though it has its toxicities. It's giving a voice to everybody but most of the time on social media. Most people are trying to not be their real selves right. Most i mean i. It's just a defense mechanism. They're put you know it's like you know you have to fake it to make it. Well that's not always true but sometimes most people do that just because they don't they feel as if it's going to be too vulnerable to share what they're really feeling or it's going to be too. I don't wanna say one of my looking for it's gonna be too controversial or you know it's it's gonna make their family and friends look at them in a different light it's like you know I don't know it just. It just feels like you need to be able to have that outlet and i think a place among the dead is going to give people like you've already said in view that it has given people but once more people see it. It's gonna show people that you can talk about these things and it's okay to share these feelings with whomever you need to share them with whether it's a stranger whether it's your family whether it's your friends spouse children whatever it's you know. This is something that. I am a lot of people say this. It's not just me but you know it's okay not to be okay. Yeah and it's have. I mean and obviously you know you pick and choose who who you want to share stuff with an all of them but maher talking about something where also there's been a stress sort of on the superficial right What sort of material is materialism and what people have. And what how people look and you know and it's nice to look nice. It's nice to have things that you like but really that's it and that's the level of of what sort of out there again. We're dealing with something when you're talking about superficiality that that links back to narcissism right like you're you're you're not going deeper and not having like the true human connection about all the other parts of ourselves that we can connect on and that we can share on that we can try to make you know the short time that we have on the planet You know an experience where we Contribute and connect and communicate. And do all these things that hopefully help one another yep absolutely so a place among the dead. You've got the premier tomorrow december. Twelve twenty twenty. Can you give us the details on that. Please well yeah we. We actually have done the premier already. But we're doing these that's okay. We're doing this. These were doing these series of screening events and they are interactive and. They are amazing as we've been talking about and the best way for people to To to check it out is to go to modern films which is our distributor so modern films dot com slash. A place among the dead. Were also playing right now at lumley virtual sit theaters in the us and we will be worldwide. Pov vdi will be coming soon. But we're going to be continuing doing these interactive events for a while as well and so The the tickets and info is all available at that link. Some some anything else. You wanna say about the film before i close it out juliet. I don't think unless there's anything else you wanted to sort of ask me is. I mean this was a really incredible conversation. It was it was I know this will probably never happen considering what happens to them. But how would you approach your silla if she ever came back. Ooh i don't know it would be interesting to see what the what the storyline would be I it would be so great. I got her co two issues of the comic book. The w comic book about drew It'd be really cool to see if drew ever got to have a either like a soul or a redemption story like what she would do with of all of the damage that she had created. A i'd be it'd be kind of interesting to see what what that story line might afford. So I don't think that maybe absolutely all right. I would like to thank miss. Julie atlanta for taking the time to chat with me here in the ski castro presents interview. You can visit our website and it'll have links to the modern films website and everything else can connect with all of that for a place among the dead until next. Time unleashed a geek in you. And i will see you soon folks. Hi there this is juliet. 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What are you going to do when i'm gone. And from my gut. I exclaimed fucking cry and tears began to war shown my face dramatic. I know i was missing her already and she was sitting in front of me. We joked through it. I back and still manage to have a good rest of the night. I drove her to the airport a day later and had a sweet goodbye. We haven't talked much since to which i say. No shit i. i'm trying to play it. Cool not be clingy or desperate and give her space. I think the crying resulted from a few things being fresh out of the pandemic ailing things for the first time in a year. I tend to attach quickly. I good dating experience. Maybe ever but did i blow it. Is the crying a terrible red flag. I've been by friends. That feelings are feelings and nothing wrong with and there's nothing wrong with them and as long as she didn't freak out it's okay. I still feel like it was too much to put on someone after only knowing them for three days but like i said it came from the gut and just poured out. It's hard to gauge because of my limited and sparse experience but this felt like a really special connection. I'm not really sure what i'm asking by writing this but just wanted to get your perspective on how quickly you can get attached to someone that what the question mark desert and just wanted to get your perspective on how quickly you can get attached to someone so many more details but the To the story but wanted to keep it brief. I appreciate you guys know. Lysa and all the pennies and pailler's also their new pen pal casey. I forgot what fake name. I use the last time i wrote in. But let's just say sincerely your pal eric guys. I need to see something right off. The bat say anything. Yeah i am crying from are truly crying on my mother's grave. I have tears. Gosh cornea surgery. And i'm recovering. I don't know if i'm fresh off. Hand where eric or connected do something. It's just too emotional as my responses to emotional. So i'm right there with eric with two emotional response. Here's what eric rowe. It tells me but it was a whirlwind movie. Nora ephron like this was a move ruin romance. i'm out of this. But also i love the. He's worried about his like she just broke up with somebody four days ago. Yeah she's everybody's got red flags it's yours well can you. Can you swim. Pass them or should you. Or how much do you like. Flags their flag people right. That was a red flag. I love that color. I love object. I'll go right toward a red flag. All right right to zero casey rory. Nobody ever talks about. And i would assume it would be this white flags like nobody's ever went on a date with this guy he described what does family does for christmas. Total white flag. My family does the same thing. No one ever says. What their flag. When you're surrendering but isn't a red flag. Stop isn't a white flag. Come on we're not no one. No aggression with my wife is i give up. Yeah but so. What should it be like. I used to go right. Green green checkered flag. Can we bring green flags. Like i went on a date with a person right. I was kind of nervous about holding hands. They helped my hand on my green flag. Maybe ignoring some green flags from merrick. Some red flags on erickson. Let's be honest. Look here's the thing you. I and i know this is a dr seuss quote but The factory flags him green. Sorry i grew green and red flag on red flags. But the fact you know you don't be sad it's over be happy. It happened all something like that. The fact that you got to make out on a balcony. I cannot describe to you how special that to hit you. You're you're just out of a pandemic you're in new york at a party already. Sounds eric's here. She's here from here in. La she's your from your in your in a major city balcony by how party everyone's vaccinated hello and you're you met someone and they're like look. I'm here for a few days. Do you want to make this happen. I mean i understand the emotions and you're definitely right to have them but you do have to take a step back and go. This was such a special. Just just this tiny this moment in time. This is probably not the person obviously saying things. That i think are maybe gonna make you feel better about this but there is a world where this you will have. You've come a ten year relationship. You might have a lot of these. And i think instead of being upset i think really celebrate the fact that these these moments are are happening because for me it reconfirms. You're a great person. There are people that are attracted to your energy. They're attracted physically attracted to you in a romantic intimate way. They're attracted us to you. Socially i have a feeling you're going to experience a lot of these and i'm only addressing this because i think i attached to quickly as well i said i love you to my wife. Two weeks into dating terrified. Green flag green flag checkered. Very kind of red. Even when i said it she was like what and it was like back immediately was backpedaling of like. I'm just kidding. I really like you but i- attached to quickly so i do understand that but i i'm only saying this other because i think you're gonna run into more of these and i think instead of making them emotionally exhausting every time you might experience these big feelings. I think it's worth stepping back and going Maybe i'm going to get a bunch of these these moments. Maybe i'm gonna have a lot of these connections. And i can only put so much into it or or. Just say hey. I'm going away wherever this wave goes. That's where that's where it goes and not not get so into just met. You already want to picture what our life is going to be like in a year. It's hard to do that when you are someone who quickly attached to someone. But i'm only saying coming out of a ten year relationship. Cautious go easy. I think some of his some of his emotions were kind of dammed up and the dam opened up and like you a lot comes out. It's also you guys. Call me out casey. Call me on this. I feel like it's an analogy for physical therapy like when you see someone learning to walk again. That's not where they're going to walk around the rest of their life. That's just the place where the hallway. Yes and yes. And that's and so this was sort of like a little physical therapy for relationships. This isn't like the big. You're not running a marathon here. This is just a few days of just kind of getting back in the saddle to keep inflating my analogies. But i also but i also like really mean what i'm saying like you're saying look at this is like wow. This was a physical therapy session. But for my heart my emotions i kinda got a little bit of it and it and it went a little too hard. Maybe i haven't really found my rhythm again and my emotions were a little bit more than i would have liked them to be in on anything wrong with them and you just kind of go. That's a good thing because the dynamic world is coming back right we just spent over a year being a stagnant world. If you're doing it right and so like you can be overwhelmed. By the dynamics of the universe you met this person and you stood on a balcony and then kissed you've and say mid conversation you'll just like. Hey zack morris timeout. Do you wanna go on a date. You just say. I love all that you're into it. I don't have that in me. I also think that it's kind of it is a metaphor for the pandemic in that it's the pandemic and sheer very similar. It's like we're coming out of this thing and we are having. We're transitionary period. Getting this girl is is a is is that as well as i just think weird things are happening. And we're all just kind of like my wearing masks. Am i in my outwear. My and we still want so think so badly to land on our feet. After this. And i don't know but as i say i agree with both of what you're both saying but as someone who hatches too quickly and really can put a lot on on a little. I think it's hard to hear that because even still i do eric listening to this as like put. Could it still work. That's what i was gonna ask. You was that if you're her or you're just on the receiving end of that at all are like whoa buddy. I think i'm a little like whoa. Because two years. But i am a little because i just think it's human nature we we want people who pushed us away and i will not go to that. Very red flag. Man discusses that club. But i think that it is human nature kind of i think when people come closest and that's what's terrible humidity. I think we'd all love to be the people that are like when someone came to me. And i went towards them full throttle but like i had to chase my husband for so long. It was horrifying horrible. You still chase him to the bathroom. And i missed him. I would say. I missed you when you're in the bathroom and these things here early in the relationship where you like missed you when you were in the very early. We had known each other for a long time. But all to say i'm with you eric. Being i see this in myself sure. Yeah yeah it's coming from a live perspective that i wanna bathroom. Is i think if i was bathroom missed in i'd have done. What would you then be in the bathroom. You've got to hurry up in here. Because i'm hurting her. I think she's too fragile out there on the bottom hurting her. I've been done for ten minutes. I'm scrolling instagram outta here. We've all of us know about all of us know about airports and l. a. We've heard of them. Is there any part of her. That was like whoa. But i need this ride tomorrow morning to the airport. See it's cool but we do need to leave at eight. I just check a bag. We have to check a bag. Do we do. Also can. I say the biggest red flag is if with love like an. If anyone was anyone would have been still talking. This is this is all we have our higher. She would be calling she would be interested. There would be communication. She'd be making up reasons. They're also casey. Don't you think it's entirely possible for you to doing entirely possible that there is very likely a world in which he never has an emotional release outbursts right and she's still kinda goes a little when and he goes. Hey we had a really strong connection. I never cried or anything. So i can't figure that he could go. No yeah we did but like you got out of a thing. I just broke up with somebody a week ago. I was visiting friends. We had hotel life. Hotel life is never real. We just had a good. We just had a good hotel. You she also still text him at the old guy like. Of course i think guys why rory saying like in that moment that it happened. I think so. Because i think also this is the beauty of what this is that and i. I hate that. It does feel like movies and tv shows. Put it into our mind. What the expectation is of these moments and how they're supposed to unravel in. That's how you meet the the one but but realistically isn't there. Something just contributed for your work in romantic comedies. I did one hundred percent but there is part of me that thinks these beautiful moments to really start seeing them as these beautiful moments and knowing that two people sometimes you just connect for this very brief period of time and that you both want something different and there isn't enough time i in this space to maybe find out that your wonderful together or maybe find out that you're an actually an impossible relationship and you could never fucking work. There's something beautiful about knowing that. Let's say that the two of them are truly impossible and would be the worst two people in a couple. You've ever seen right like that. Even to people in that position can have two days together. three that can be romantically beautiful. And it's romantically beautiful because they're not looking traffic. I hope we have children at the end of this. I think if you go into it with that expectation you can walk away from feeling so much better and more excited and willing to accept the beauty of the next one. That's gonna come. That may be lasts for three weeks. Or maybe for bay or potentially out of nowhere. Because you weren't looking for it anymore. Becomes the one that lasts the rest of your life. You know what i mean. I think the ego we want the choice you know we want to be the one to say. No but i think where you are. I love what you're saying. That's very beautiful. It's like sometimes we're just meant to connect in the same way when people get divorced. I sometimes think why is it bad. They had those years to get to be like this failure. You know i'm people look at it and be like you're the best person for me in my thirties. Yes and i'm so glad. I had that decade cheated on you yes greenfield but like but like there's a time to be able to look at it like wow. That was a great time. We had in each other. Yeah can i say one last quick thing of course do you. Are we in agreement. That sally is the greatest rom com of all. Do like okay. Okay close close. Second for me is returned to me. But that's a whole okay. So i think that's part of the magic of that movie is that they kept coming in and out of each other's lives without ever seeming. Like it was gonna happen. I mean that time they see each other in the airport. He recognizes her boyfriend and walks away. And it's like the the universe was like if this is going to happen it'll happen but yet one of them could like force. It was like no. We had that time. And that tyner. Yeah we had that time at that bookstore and that was just kind of like just good enough now knows eric. I'm not trying to get you all worked up again but in six years you could run into her again in new york or something. It'd be like oh my god do you wanna get dinner. And then maybe you'll have another two days or maybe you'll have two years you'll have twenty minutes yes can i piggyback onto that very quickly. I'll know go for get very weird. I hope this really okay. So when i was pursuing my husband he wanted nothing to do with it. I stumbled upon by that. I mean i went to a bookstore and self help section. And i got a book called the power of change by marianne williamson gift change. Excuse me go with me every not talking at this juncture about jesus okay. I'm trying to whenever someone says that they're about to talk about so. There is a hear me out everybody thinking. At that time i was so into him. I did not know. I will die. If this person doesn't like it was so desperate and in my head and of course that's going to repel on so to your point about the universe one alley and accepting what that was. There is a prayer in that book. And basically what you say. Is you just say. I'm turning this relationship over the universe. I'm releasing it. One hundred percent completely may may this relationship take the form that is of the highest good for both of us and about saying this prayer released this person. When i tell you a year later we were engaged and asking to leave it there. It's very weird but sometimes you just literally have to release something we have. I think it also allows you to just put it into neutral and go down the hill. But you you were like i'm meet your you see like victim about ad. Yes no one wants a bathroom door. Knock that many times. Nobody wants to do you need in here. No i just need to know you're in there. I'm still in here. Scrolling my final thoughts. Very quickly on our i love that casey i really do love it so much and i think it goes hand in hand with what you said about divorce like. I'm i'm forty now. I'm certainly not even close to who i was at twenty. I'm certainly not looking for the same thing in someone when i was twenty in a relationship. The reason i'm a successful relationship now is because my wife and i have grown. It's truly insane that any marriage really works but we have grown together as friends and we still enjoy company. Do i sit here and go. We will always be this way. No i wanted to be this way so you know we both work at it but there's a reality that one day something happens in something changes and and we're not who we are and then i just want to say this eric enclosing on the crying. I want to say don't ever not do that. Because if your experience in that moment and your emotion in that moment is to cry what you're offering to that person is absolute honesty about what you're feeling anti moment and that is the thing that is going to cause the experience with whoever someone is going to go. I really appreciate and love how honest he was in that moment with his emotions and that is going to be the spark that starts a great foundation in your relationship. So if you deny it and you go on a craig's this personnel freak. Somebody out you. You're so great that even when you freak the person out and they still like let's make a joke and let's keep hanging out and trust me partner or no partner for your life. You should always rather be opened than closed. I always same. Let's get you get is. Oh all right. Eric eric eric eric. Thank you so much for this great first letter. With team coco new pen pal. Thank you we wish you. Well sincerely your pen pals daniel van kirk rory scoville and casey rose wilson and we are back. We're back folks. You heard it in the introduction and we just want to talk about briefly but our guest today is casey wilson who you know and has a fantastic new memoir a book out to ucla memoir or a book like are those. Do you say them as the same thing. Same wa became so ridiculous. Have a memoir. But it's really just speaking of nora ephron kind of collection of comedic essays then. I was inspired by her for them. Largely i love it. I am doing the. I'm doing the audio book. It's the of my presence. Casey wilson as personally reading it to me. She comes over and read this book. It is so expensive. What i'm paying for this experience us baxter. All everyone's But i just wanna say it as someone who's listening to it it truly is so great and i'm always astounded by people's their memory of their experiences. Because i feel like maybe i've just smoked too much pot in my life and i can't remember the details gonna ask this to like. Did you feel like once you started. You started opening up a whole bunch of mental boxes that you maybe didn't feel like you had ready to go or or maybe when you outlined are just kind of started the process of you doing when yeah does it end up finding way more than you thought you would in the process of doing so just always. This is not. I don't think it is bragging. I'm just always had a good memory. And these stories have been so burned into my brain as horrifying events or just unbelievable. Funny things i mean. My brother was saying he's like he posted something on facebook about the book. And he just said if you have mukasey since second grade like you just get ready. She will have remembered the weird thing you said and it will appear i i. I am so astonished by that. I'm i also so jealous of because it truly puts you there in someone else's experience but also the way that you remember it and the way that you tell it and specifically make it this this very entertaining Story ask as as you say. It's it's so great it's truly like someone is just telling you like. Oh here's like whenever someone i all. I have a story. It's like that feeling when someone tells you a good story and they go. This is a story from my life if if you haven't heard it To our listeners. You need to. It is called the wreckage of my presence. And it's i'm currently listening to it and it is awesome. It's truly really really great. The way to keep it fun and entertaining also going like super like personal about like your loss and things like a vulnerability. Yeah yeah but it's like more. I don't know. I like how it's like entertaining at the same time. I did kind of want to do a bit. Not i don't they. Don't think the word but just talk about grief and loss and everything but obviously make it humorous but some of those books in assists with no knocking them. I absolutely love this genre. They're more comedic. And and i just thought i think i'm gonna just try to tell my story and it ended up being i guess is what i'm saying a bit more heartfelt. Maybe than i had thought going into it. Because i do comedy and this is just going to be funny and so it kind of took its own course in that way. But i think that that's why also like we're so glad to have you be a pen pal with us and part of episode because so much of this show is kind of the same thing like we will go to very heartfelt and sincere places but then just because of the nature of who we are and also like who you are going to inherently. Have some comedy to it. Because that's how we waited. We we have tried and a few people have accused us but they're liars of trim they're liars. Thank you course absolutely all right here we go. This is our second letter of the episode and it comes to us from very special end. Hello boys sounds very aggressive. Sounds like a line from chicago. Hello hello world. It's been a while since i wrote in. Its adam shanley here for all of our new listeners. That are just joining us. Adam shanley is a fixture on this show He's the keeper of the compendium of all the hashtags ridiculous hashtags that we do but he also He also runs the facebook page that we ever told him he was allowed to do. Know a miller community. He's a pillar of the community. And you're going to get to hear him Going to get right to the point. Depression fucking sucks. It's real and it sucks or maybe it's just that being an adult sucks. I don't know maybe. I just expect that life should occasionally be filled with things seasons that bring me joy and i remember being a kid and having that time around christmas when everything felt magical or in the summer when the days would last forever and there was always something to look forward to. My family used to have picnics and big family. Dinner every sunday. We're sicilian on my mom's side and birthday parties and just visiting with family. Why did he need to tell us about this this as he rubbing it in now my grandparents what did say that now. My grandparents are gone. now my grandparents are gone. My family is scattered throughout the country. And those gatherings and those times that feel special are completely gone from my life. I haven't felt feeling in so long. And it's depressing. Fuck literally. I'm depressed clinically. My body hurts. I'm easily agitated. All of that just wanted to check in and say that maybe the after pandemic is going to be worse than the pandemic also wanted to write in. Because i haven't in a long time anyways ever had meatball subs sincerely your powler. Pallor adam. shanley toasts script. Now i'm reading this back in telling myself i shouldn't say in this but i'm gonna the shan man you want to work backwards. Let's work backward. Jc ever have a meatball sub. No i haven't what. I don't think i have and i love meatballs. We've had we talk about roy added. It's called aranka okay. And it's a meatball sub with mayonnaise on it from subway. Do with that what you will. Actually that don't do anything. Don't do anything with in college. That was a goto when it was fun. We've had listeners. Try it and they have backed it. I've never had a weird order. Casey now because pickles on a sandwich. What'd you say. Sorry just like turkey cheesy no nothing weird but i do love jimmy. Johns as aforementioned first off shanley. Sorry about the depression. Her cannot i. Cannot i can't do anything about. I can somewhat relate to it in the many ways that there are these small depressions that i think we all feel and then there's also massive ones that that some people feel and then there's a extremely overwhelming very different stages of depression. But i did pick this letter. Because i do relate to that type of depression you're talking about about being an adult and your perception of what the world and life is because you definitely transition out of you know almost feels like a wonderland once you start to realize what the world actually is and we start to realize how it actually operates and you you think about injustices or or how we got here are the systems that are in place that you had nothing to do with that. Define your entire reality. It is massively depressing and it does become difficult to try to figure out. Well how do you navigate the joy in that with a child. I think about it all the time i think about how to pass on those joys that i had as a kid even though those joyce still landed me in a place as someone who is depressed about being an adult and with this perspective i mean how old adamus. He's ninety seven so he's had a good time. Good run off your ninety. Seven grandparents are going to be gone. Forever brag yes. I would guess adam shanley is thirty three years old. That's cillian so i That what this thing is. That what he's saying is that that is just such a commonplace thing. You have a sunday meal and that's the reality. Various jersey shore anarchy of new jersey yes. I only watched that speaking of case. That's the best season ever real housewives in new jersey. That's the best run of that show. Oh absolutely because they are real family so they really had to get together and fight whereas all the other runs versions of the show. Are contrived like friendship gatherings where then someone can be mad but real house. Oh do jersey was like well. You guys already. You're getting together every sunday anyway. So we have. No production costs sprite on the show. We just have to watch you all fight about the most dark of all time right. Okay not alone in that hundred percent are you guys is Relation to shoot that specific type of. I understand the question here where you're gonna. What's your relation to that specific type of depression. Because is it depression or is that this specifically about just getting older is is it. Just getting older. Is it truly just being an adult where you go. Oh you're not necessarily depressed. this is just. You're facing reality which is depressing. I think it's that mixed with the pandemic ending. My therapist told me that her clients have been almost more depressed coming out of it because it's the same as any p. t. s. when you're in a trauma you'd not processing it and similarly she said there's been a lot of grief post-election for people which is near out of a fighter flight and you're sort of now just emotions are dropping in on people like this is what my body was going through for people that had perhaps like a more traumatic or tough pandemic. So i'm just reporting that that this is probably as my as my therapist. Trimmers would also say it's in the marinade hashtag in the marinade in the. Can we take that hat. Can that be a hashtag. We're stealing from her doctor. I was just having this conversation with some family members of mine saying that like when your child every like everything is highlights right like it's birthday parties. It's summer it's rollercoasters. Theme parks fireworks. Yes like christmas like you kind of live and highlights and then when you get older you start to see the daily grind of life and a lot of people kind of go like these constantly like we all have friends constantly traveling or like. I can't believe you guys went away for two days to paris. Whatever like once we got there we knew we'd have twelve hours and we just made the most of it and we came back like there are people who i know this this friend. I have a cousin who did that. Oh my god. Part of me was like good. How are you guys who makes out on a balcony. Dot is right and so i think for some people. Though i remember my family was so close growing up i remember thinking like how would we ever not the close and then into my twenties in my thirties. I started to see like branches go off in different ways and some branches fall off entirely and and and be like. Oh this is kind of how it happened. Then there's queuing on take takes people. But i'm just saying i think it's gonna take a few down. I think it's also cyclical so for as much as adam could be like pan. We kind of had all this togetherness who's to say that in ten years. Maybe you have some nieces and nephews or maybe if you want you have childrens children of your own and then eventually they have kids and you kind of get back into more depressed than yeah. But i think that it's just kind of a thing of like transitioning from childhood and like what i don't even think about what my future's going to be like to while i'm part of a grind and is this the life i wanted or where all the good times i felt like. We're happening all the time. But you just were you know the graham. When he saw summer lasted forever. I still think you do your big beach. Dum dumb. yeah i just. I don't know. I think that it's some of that. I think it's growing up kind of like being part of the machine of the world in life. Timmy sounds also chemical depression. To be honest. I just want to give the six straight up advice of that. I've had to do it. Just get on medication. Because i think if you can't get yourself off the bottom you then can't do all the things everyone is going to give you advice to take a walk. Like if i could take fucking walk. I would you know and and not just for a specific friend and i hope she heard that but to come and sit with me after my impression but there are periods. Where you're like you're so in it. I do think. I kind of resisted medication. I'm just such a proponent of it if it can help you. And i don't know what i'm hearing in the letter again not therapists but is someone that could possibly be in of needing some medication. Yes and i just think it'll help you look at the world differently then you can take the steps that i think ultimately make you feel a lot better but it's hard to take those steps if you're this down what i'm hearing. I think so. I think so as well. I think that. I think all. I always think i always say you know. Of course that therapy is always such a great I don't know if it's always the first step is definitely an early step to consider in these situations. If you are experiencing that. But i think if specifically talking about those things that you miss as a child i recently did somebody that i was going through that you know. My my father passed away a year ago and something that i was just recently thinking about was how many siblings i have. My dad worked at the post office. And yet i still can sit here. No that i have all of those highlights that you were talking about whereas the kid. Oh life can be these highlights. I feel those two and i. I sometimes think oh man. Those are though i have those highlights because my dad created those opportunities for me to have them and so i think constantly am i focused on myself and what i wanna do to create these highlights as an adult for myself or do i want to step back and try to make sure that i'm the same father who you know we go. And we i find my kids interest. And then i lay into it or try to generate new interests and other things that she doesn't necessarily know about to try to create those highlights as well and i think i think what happens is in specifically of the instance of this paragraph saying. You know what happened all those things that you loved when you're a kid. I think i think someone was helping create those opportunities for you to experience specifically with your family getting together on sundays. I know that this is not necessarily the case for you adam. Maybe but i'm in a position where i go. Well how do i create that. How i'm now in charge. I'm now the adult that has to get in touch with everybody to go. Hey we're gonna have dinner together on sunday we're going to go get some pizzas and we're gonna go to a playground and that's where we're going to have dinner so we can create that experience going crazy night out. We put out a blanket. We drink listings. I mean specifically with friends in ohio but we drink some wine and had pizza on a blanket while our kids ran around played on a playground and it felt like an amazing experience. We all will remember. I think and this is. I'm obviously speaking away from the clinical depression version of this but just getting older perspective. I think as you get older. You do have to create those opportunities. And i know i've said this before but a lot of times you're not necessarily creating opportunities for yourself. Sometimes if you create those opportunities for someone else you might find so much joy in in that experience when you weren't focused on yourself and that's more for me to hear and for my wife to listen to a know that i said she doesn't listen. She does not like the show. She doesn't like it. Like we are memory makers at a certain point and i think that's the struggle into adulthood of like wait fuck. I think we're all just like i ended adult like it's like running through my head a million times a day even as parenting on account of this. Why did this happen our here. But you're right. I think the more rituals and m- memories you can make on your own with with friends. I think that's really good advice. Better agency in your own joy in that way. that's good. i'm not joking. That was agency enjoy. I'm serious that's really joy in. I'm not sure steel that that's your neck special connected with people which is what he's saying is very real and it can like really hard. Yes we love you adam and your sicilian and we never knew that and if we did you would never be charged a facebook page. Red flag right there. That is a red flag for us. Thanks adam adam. We love you if you if you need someone to talk to. Obviously we are here and you've already written us a letter but you know that we're hearing we love you and Yeah if you need any any help in some way. And i say this in a loving way but unfortunately you do have my cell phone number and i know that you're going to reach out and and i dread that but i am here for you so warm. That was so warm. That was i love him. Adam i'm hoping for the best for you in sending love agreed. Yeah ending love. I think that's the best you can do. Agreed sending you some want to recommend my book as a bomb. I have to do this but it is about depression. And i only as it is about the depression and the transition into adulthood. And it's truly not a plug. It's like wait a pastime. If you're not feeling well she is can you talk. You didn't work recording. You were like watch how i do this and you go. I'll see you guys i well. It's hard to take advantage of someone's depression to promote a block. It didn't yes. They still if to take advantage of. Its adam shanley and he loves it burning for you adam adam. That is the truth as to people who are Listening to it reading this book that is not the you did plug it. But you're right you're right you're fit in this moment. Perfectly right adam. We love you dearly. Reach out when you when you need us we're here for you And we wish you out sincerely your pen pals roy scovill daniel van kirk and casey keeping a day.
Iron Man 2 - Caravan Of Garbage
"This podcast is part of the planet broadcasting network visit planet broadcasting dot. Com promo podcast. From great night's hello everybody. We're back for another caravan. Garbage continuing al flight through the iron man trilogy mason continuing that what i said yep i stand by what i say and do and everything else. That's happened with all i will do. That's how you become. A success was tiny stocks maiden speech companies like. I'm going to be continuing work. my father. he's gonna be very proud of. That's right so you become a billionaire and if it were could continuing to leave a like in this video that would be terrific loves. Yes because that's certainly helps get this video off the ground speaking of mason. Yes tony stock. He's back he's hot off his appearance. Incredible hulk caviar. Yeah as a real bumbler. that's all. Yeah he's put on these big tolman shoes for saints with gwyneth paltrow. Well that's what i was gonna say so in the past. That was the first that you're going is getting honestly the first thing i was gonna die. Because it's it's it's in a segment in the past. I've given linemen to a bad rap. Joe and when i think back on it and i go online to what a disappointment and i think. There's only really three things that i have an issue with about number one. Who is the tiny stock bills. A new element by looking at his dad's old same pock. He's looking at a magic. I discovered a new element in it. Which is fascinating lifted. therefore it doesn't work and he also does it in a way in the like when you watch an episode of csi and it's just like test tube spinning and it's and it's like did it in but there's no actual ni- like nothing is really happening. He's just turning a laser onto another thing thing. You know to be fair though. He puts more effort into this than he does figuring out time travel traveling knocks it out on a napkin on the way and yeah and and it sort of makes me wonder what would happen if like how it stock was building this sacred into his pocket for his son. Like one of the vendors decided not to book in a missing guy. Do i run the popcorn stand. Set my own one up okay. So that's that's number one number one issue this movie now but to issue with this movie. Is that it. It predominantly about tony stock. Maybe he's going to be in the avengers but then and it's all phila- at you know he's future involvement in the avengers and at the end he's just not in the avengers but in the avengers at the start of the avengers. He's just in the avengers but that's not really john favelas fault. That's more way as fall for not turning that around somehow well that and also there was a lot of heavy marvel involvement in this like john. February is a pretty pretty jovial guy like shot his mouth about your obey the situation like this but apparently there was a lot of behind the saints friction between him and the marvel higher ups. We'll talk about some re-casting that's going on. There were some people at marvel who are no longer there and this really lanes into the like. We're building a universe year. Yes in a way that the first one didn't what was the third thing third thing. Is tony stocks huge bell-bottom trials just every say every full like every like full body shot of him. He's got these big. These big fled pantaloons. And it's obviously because he is like he's not as tall as the character is supposed to be in there put lifts in his shoes and the white you can write that is you have these big. These big boots calcio cut jane. There's a moment where he's replacing painting on a wall of whatever steady up on a bitch you say. Then they're right band and look at these days there would just be there will be like a role in the in the crew and it'd be like visual effects tailoring and i would just cut it down in post shaw but but back then you know only had a me one hundred million dollars or whatever was such slides rot but other than that still up. It's it's it's like you. It's better than i remember it being and what got me thinking about also was. There's a lot of changes to mahba characters especially early on which i think people will more okay with because they weren't as popular for example they changed jarvis to a virtual assistant situation. But that was mostly. Because i didn't wanna do a bruce wine. Alfred kazan bam again. Exactly all dot ie batman movie which one who's decide we don't know what continuing the saga of the the other thing is. He's more of a jokester wearing the comex. He's he's pretty straight straightened out. I mean he's a drunk but he's like straight narrow iran show in terms of personality and also the identity thing which is apparently an improv. That changed the course of this entire saga. Because a lot of people just don't have identities. There are exceptions spot men but they just completely threw that out the window. And i don't know where they if they did that. Now people would be as open to it if you did this with a character like batman and he's first movie or or even any of the movies where he just did a press conference and what i am but i'm not mad and the police will only audience alike. Well he's a rich so yes we have to let them get away with. We'd stop him but he knows krav maga. I think i mean batman daily does come at a press conference in the dock. Naught and say these batman but but it doesn't happen but yet do you think they've leaned more wife from that. What do you what do you think the is now in terms of dmc. You and probably influenced the marvel comic book universe extent because obviously in the comic books. Originally tony stock. I'm n was his bodyguard. But they've gotten rid of that since then. The whole world is tiny. Stock is on man in the comics now. I think they've probably leaned heavily into that. Obviously nick fury. As we've mentioned in previous caravans garbage yes It was originally a white guy. Yes he has since been replaced by his. Who is a black guy that works basically always think about. His name is also nick fury for each area. Then bring up the junior very often. I want to talk about the nick fury thing because there's been talk that like all we based on samuel jackson. The idea was that like we're going to get him in. And you know this is kind of elway to let him know what was going on. Now people talk to his people they just did it this interviews with samuel jackson. I found one recently where he's like. I picked up a comic and always in the comic. Yeah and apparently there was a lot of apparently though a lot of contractual problems. At the time i said i bet i mean even in. There's an issue of the ultimate comics. Where nick fury is asked who would play him in a movie and david hasselhoff. The character looking exactly like samuel jackson says we'll samuel jackson. Of course. yeah so. It's interesting that that did come true. Yeah i believe. The the oddest on that comic book at the time was quite fond of photo. Reference will say shaw and that's rising pricing. Yes well isn't it. that's right. I'll speaking costing this movie has a cavalcade of fun gifts guest on so many laugh. Olivia mommy's in this weekend saw x. Men movies correct kate. Mara who gave the best performance anyone's ever given in a fantastic full movie best. We're gonna movie a movie. Some of the the great. I am no longer this day. I am the light. Great gary shanley. This book brings in a great performances. This sort of gray smarmy Just just had it up to here. Santa light. It turns out to be a hydra agent. I actually think. I was watching some behind the scenes stuff that speaks to this that they were already thinking about the hydro twist resting because they kind of like some stuff coming up with whatever and i'm like well it's only four years out at this point you know so. That's not entirely possible that they would have plan to some of that out. It's true but yes sorry. Gary shandling and bill o'riley still alive somehow. Yeah it is well. Speaking of terrible people elon. Musk makes an appearance. That's i'd like i said. Did i say cavalcade of stars tony. I'm thinking about an electric jets. You know he's actually just thinking about. It's just a regular jet. It's going electric fence on. Its i pull people what it is you know. I think i think that's how he actually comes up with his ideas. Like a great inventor. He came in and said electric jet and then he ran out of the room and then we decided to build an electric jet. Yeah anyway look into it. He's not is real-life tony stock in my opinion. Just a real dog of a oblige again. We know this big fans of him out there. Just look into it with a bit. Just look into it into a little bit here. What do you think about the fact that they sort of did the david in a bottle storyline sort of that one. Say well to be fair. The original opening when we see tony stock for this. And those delays saying you can find. He's drunk throwing up in a toilet and then he jumps out of the plane and pepper potts is there and she's like what are you doing. You're drunk and he's a little bit drug. Is he drunk but he's also polite polite employees drug at mostly die. Dr not but any one of us is that if we were being constantly polite empoisoned. We wouldn't be drunk all the time. I'd be doing it all day. Might uh speaking of though we have a service go big sandwich where we have a book club where we actually recently did damon and about a webby talk thoroughly and extensively about that story. Oxo you wanna you wanna you wanna do you wanna tiny stock is going to big perm. He's got a mustache sipping about on his on man roller-skates salvador absolutely so. He's made his match this time around by by a big muscular. Hgh infused russian man with very exposed chest and arms off most of his head. Mostly mostly the head. Well that's what gets me the ted. I just think though he's not a great villain. I think mickey rock was huge at the time because cd because the rest i mean he is a great actor and apparently he bought a lot to this role and he had a lot of these ideas. In terms of the looks of science. Boyd's different boyd's the bird was his idea for real at like the tattoos were all him and the russian accent and the phrases that he wanted to use but sorry aboard the aboard the boyd. Yeah but apparently there's a lot of that was so i feel like just going. It's it's fine but you know what was it supposed to be. I don't know but this is. This is a great is it. Is it really butts. He's right. And i'll stand by these sane until the day that i die until one of elon musk's we'd fans comes in and shoots me till you dragged on a shuttle and put into one of elon. Musk spice mine. That's right the racetrack. Saying is one of the best things in the hands down without question. It's a a great action sequence and it looks right because i think this is one of the one of the few mobile films filmed on film. Yes looks cried. Kala's gripes if that's what we say that's right. It's always free phil. Don't film it. Just it just looks. Great the the slow mo whiplash to and those guys you see like the got the red outline what it's like to see through it that being said there is a moment where he flips tiny stocks it flips upside down numerous times and then a bunch of qasr crash directly behind whiplash and. I'm like this would be an entirely different movie and cinematic universe if both of them are just being absolutely obliterated strike which could very easily have happened like whiplash flips over the car. Tony stocks head is separated from his body and he's like Did it and then just just a bunch of like formula one. He's very casually strolled up. That racetrack isn't he. But that makes said moment. That just really sold for me. It was in the trial. Is the suitcase armagh. Which is a nod to the fact that he's armor is used to be guy sometimes and the white unfolds random and it's like klickovic lacking over ovaries lames and i also love the fact that this emergency suit that has some of the on men abilities but not enough a lot of the time. That's also that for me. That's the base looking in my opinion. That silver centurion look fantastic. It's by favorites. I think this. And maybe this is one of the reasons that again. Let's raisin after the after the big tony stock. Booties that they put this in the trial and again it's it's the it's the the calculation i have to mike of do we leave some surprises in this film. Do we put something exciting. Try to draw people in. And i think i made the wrong call on that and imagine if you'd say you say the suit engine if you not seen any trials and you've watched this movie see happy walking around with that little brief patient in the broadcast because yeah could've am wouldn't put up for that silly because it's since it's in the comic just like a bunch of montana mixes his montana mix. Maybe when we're plush it'd be like quickly through the briefcase headed titi philosophy headed by that lies a whip but then he puts the suit. You'll be like god. But the the fact that they had had to throw that in the entire activation sake with your trial. And that's the you know the reason that looks good as why they had to do that and it. Just that's raising number four. It's a great well. It the mock full suit and speaking of mania had discussions in the about whether or not the suit can fly. And i've done a little bit of research. You said it couldn't i said could right here. We go on e. signing happy throws it to a mets economically. Fly mason. i'm gonna. I'm actually writing this year. Okay i'm actually. the motte. Five suit is an emergency only and this is only equipped with the basic. I'm an arsenal naively hand. Mounted repulses about lack of heavy weapons. And it's lot light. It can still fly however it cannot reach high altitudes spades and is limited in its white can carry during flight but it does have the advantage of fly which means he can fly. And there's a little asterisk and it says flight can only be sustained if he's been picked up by allies with. Hey question question question. Did you forget that one thing at the still. You know what i'm talking about you get back. You're like oh my god. I can't believe. I forgot that one thing in the store. But did you know that. Now you can get snacks drinks and household essentials in thirty minutes with door dash door dash connects you with the restaurants. You love right now and right to your door. 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Don't forget that's code. weekly planet. twenty twenty one to twenty five percent off your first order with jordache subject to change terms. Do apply for racetrack. All right i see your point. It's it's i don't even remember if you actually said that that might fade like something that i built up in my mind. I said the governor robert a rolling relevant public. What i also like about this. I think it also speaks to literally every other suit that he has something happens to which he then upgrades in the next one right so in this. He gets whipped electrocuted and it just drops him and then the follow up suit in the in the avengers. It absorbs electricity all that so every time something happens to him. There's almost always the next one is something better. For example in infinity war. He makes shields out of like the nanotechnology in the suit and it weighs down but in n. Gammons elisa she exactly so there's always something his improving on so in the next one It's just a big block. He's just get at it. Yeah well yeah. It was a ball but it just kept rolling. Just got a bunch of called stakes in it to put on his via. Yeah but about that flight there all the rice drag. Because we're still on at one. Not if i was supposed to be a bunch of minor villains initially you know like you crimson. Dynamo's and elon. Musk deer. But i love l. Hit like he's instinct is to just build a whip suit just to make him bleed a little bit and then go you lose. He didn't lose like he won. And everybody knows that he caught. It doesn't know what he's doing like. Let's say aliens coming. It doesn't matter this interaction of it but whiplash wants the headlines afterwards to deci on manha faucet again against through on the skinny. This taste like a real dummy yet again. What about this lot. Bison go on to. You attribute this to i'm here. It's made deal with it on. That's rhody that's righty new. Righty neurology So i've got a bit of trivia here in regards to this Recasting go on demand so entertainment. Weekly climbed the direct jon. Favreau had not been happy with how it's performance in ironman often ray shooting cutting saints so when it was time for the sake well fabra when colorado justin theroux all surprise everybody that a surprise. I didn't know okay. purposely reduced how it screened on Which leads to ask him for. Pike out of eighty percent have refused claiming that the reason for the pay cut was to meet robert. Danny juniors reported two thousand percent salary increase. apparently around ten million jada was sort as a replacement. But do you remember old friend. I capelle mutter. We talked to. We talked about it but we talked about the humans that picture and makes that ominous noise. I don't like it. It's not an edit. It makes this noise just expand. We don't he can't fix it. He's tried all manner of editing trick. You have a walk pasta like a new stand. And it's not gonna win humming disarming noise. I come on is in the pipe. So allegedly told a disney consumer products executive that no would notice because black people look. The signs is so also the whole report out reported in two thousand fifteen that he attended the premiere of iron man in disguise to go undetected. Because he's really weird about being in public and bank saying i'm once complained that journalists at a press junket were allowed to sodas instead of one. He's a billion edge bodily. He's a billionaire up. Anyways i think the war machine role being beefed up in this is interesting is an interesting counterpoint. he's also got military tactics when they're working together is like all up. And you go down there and tony stocks just like is back to back this shit. I got that laser. The worst wants to do that. Show just shoot up. Repulses together blast. I told him to sleep. I guess you know what i mean. Yeah i think. I think it's go. It's pretty cool. Yeah that's okay so they should have put that in the trail. sam rockwell. How yet what. A drain bass great addition. I love his little gun. Montage yet on these little speech Yeah i wish. I had more to say improves death little. We'll see that's the thing. I think he does more with less. Tony stock needs dancing. Girls in the ironman suit fireworks. He's just out there dancing the the average white band they bring him back. Yeah also they should ease the one thing. The one the the one issue i do have like the fifth humane okay. The fixed issue is. I think he'll be better if he was more competent. Yes you know what i mean. He he's meant to be this kind of doc rival of tony stock. He's got to be a guy who if tony stock hadn't grown a conscience would be. Yeah that this is what he turned into. But he's just kind of like a like a real blowhard he's not that competent enough. Because i guess you could keep him funny and charismatic. And you could keep the little dan hood also maybe he knows kung-fu. The dance would have evil intent right. My goodness he's someone that they they. They should have kept going. They did. Black widow is introduced in this movie. But it's fine and they don't really do anything with scott hanson. It's talked about. How like the. Tom was griping looking back. It's like was it automate. And i think like her fight. Scene is is pretty solid. But maybe the cameo should have just been hawkeye sized like in thaw. You know what i mean. I think it's just an extra thing that they put in here that you just don't really need for that character of right now show show show anyway. Greatest hair in her. I've heard you say that before. I fly great against the best hand. We'll think about it. We'll continue to will agree to disagree. What do you think about. The inclusion of john slattery though lock john slattery. Would you kiss him. You're probably gonna kiss him. Everyone is gonna kiss him. he's something i don't like going. I don't like he's triangle ach reactor. I don't think it's a well. That's all i got tossed for the vengeance. Show that like it anyway. Whatever is the thing what what what was again. Obey though it's going to be how. How else do you know. I was going to say how do you. How else do you illustrate. A new element is the fundamental forces of the universe. He's become as unto god. He's created new new element. You know making an octagon get a triangle. You ignoramus about it all in this video. Albert einstein said you make a fundamental new elements triangle. That's what he said. Triangles and more important than knowledge. Is that true. Yeah i knew a lot of things including how to cheat on his wife. Listen mason samuel. Jackson made a nine picture deal for this. Did you did you. And then he very quickly read through these on like picture all of them. I think he's he's been putting movies on even mob movies of this. It's true i think the nick fury subplot again doesn't really work because it just kinda does feel tacked on and get ready for the avengers. And he just really spends the entire time nagging tiny stock. Doesn't he disliked. We thought about putting in the avengers linemen could be in the advantage. But you cobb in the bench when a like you but we like. I unmanned not as good as i. Okay thanks for being in this movie. Man really cool. Now it's important. We've been following him every every step of the way he but he is era evaluation of you. I need you to read it out loud and the up and up and scott. What absolute mopus todd. It's not the little things mason the segment of the show where we just. Here's something is something something for nothing what we say we do. I go to jon favreau. The asian man new hens vanco the false papers in russia in order to get to. Monaco is a member of the ten rings. The terrorist organization stock and in the first film. The organization is is reported. It's it's on mets nemesis. These the mandarin. That's the boss. Big ten rings revelation. Little pigs play another little thing. Tell molin is in this. Sorta allegedly supposedly read that. He's the the little boy. He's wearing the ironman mosque As stock expos being attacked by the hammond drones. And i'm inside job kid a that's that's that's right. Apparently i forgot to mention the cabinets. Only because people kept saying. Hey jon favreau is that. I think tom holland did it was. Like ole miss defy keeping us club canabal. You know i meant to before you movie fly. please please. don't even have to pay me for the next movie is twenty five a little right. So what do you think about the captain. America's shield fine. Yep fun reference. good it apparently the though. Because it's not the original captain america's shield apparently. The nod is to the facts that how it stock was linked to the super soldier program. So that was the the id that we'd make that connection and we have right now. Also there's other nods. There's a project pegasus crate which is also referenced. In captain marvel palace come from a thing that exploded interface. Whatever magical pegasus mythical based that's right and there's always in that spy ship or whatever holding the pegasus. I'll really go base. Is it okay. I'll these it's real hot or at least you go to all the powers of the pegasus. Great this is all black panther reference because in one saying there's a there's a map in the background and that's like something going on in africa. What is it like. that's what's going on. Then here's something for you. My sin in the original ending whiplash is revealed to have survived the explosion. This is from day. Little bits and attacks tony and pepper before being killed by righty. The ending was changed to a more ambiguous situation in case mava wanted to bring back whiplash future movies as of june twenty twenty one. There are no plans to do. He exploited right failure. Ambiguous to me. It was a surp- arpad up. That certainly would have pulled out of it would have gone down the drain. I got to ask you though gone. Many on mason on mason's famous segment. I mean it's it's the real thing it's the real deal. It's the one three four. That's the that's the one. They man on a helicopter. More they mount on arnold schwarzenegger Might not arnold schwarzenegger. No yes arnold schwarzenegger. Wow yeah bottle looking pretty good blown up some cows but again It's an impossible It's an impossible yardstick. I have which is just give a saint like a bunch of people being chopped into soup. Yep yep that's what. I want to say we're going to give this one mini gun minute out of my segment. One many gunman as well so made the segment but obviously not the highest writing very well and neither was this movie mason. And i'll tell you. Why was that again. It was the seventh highest grossing film of the year that it came out so similarly to ironman want. It wasn't a huge box office draw. It was made for somewhere between one hundred and seventy in two hundred million dollars so a much bigger budget than the first and it made more six hundred twenty three million dollars but again what i like about what they've done with the that didn't go didn't make a billion dollars pack it in pack it in the autumn. And you got a bill to make it a billion and we'll talk about mobile next week. We speaking of next movies. I really always liked the post credits scene for this. It's the thoughts hammet situation simply for the potential of getting aliens and spice and magic and stuff and there'd be no hints towards that would say the man who drank a grain liquid and he became a big grain man that sees origin and then we saw a man who was drunk and then he fell into the desert and to assert whatever shows his rj. And now we're doing space. People you think hoax origin went drink. If you take a big grain drink it was big so water white. Yeah okay. now you're right. I was miss berra absolutely right anyway. I loved it. I love i love. I love how we had calls. It was in this movie. did you like. He's fit better much better. But i like the little back and forth you had with stock. The i'm gonna go. I was busy doing stuff. Now gotta do all the stuff like just two very old suspicious man having an odd conversation. And he's like well. We need you stock but know that much of golf and do seven seasons of my own show so after beat up people at that mini mart. Yes that one right. Yeah yeah hammer or whatever. It is anyways. It's been caravan garbage. You do this every week and you might be like. I wish i could say it every week but a little bit early. Guess what you can go to big sandwich. Delco you sign up early also bonus stuff. We mentioned book club damon in a bottle. There we do bonus podcasts output. 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Death Stranding Directors Cut Details - Kinda Funny Games Daily 07.09.21
"What's up everybody. Welcome to kind of funny games. Daily for friday. July ninth. Twenty twenty one. I'm one of your host. Greg miller alongside formerly of the hollywood reporter formerly event now independent contractor metric shanley. Hello patrick former in my name. It sounds like i'm not doing anything at all. It sounds like i don't know what you're doing. That's the whole the reason you're here band misery and i'm also washed up. It depends on you know. It's like glass half full glass. Fm exactly are you a pessimist optimist. I'm the litmus test for all of that. Patrick how the hell are you. It's been too long. I'm great great. Thank you so much for having me on. I appreciate it and it's a pleasure. Of course yeah. When you took over over at the hollywood reporter doing games coverage down there you and i of course went out for drinks in l. a. and we got talk games and had a great time and then when you went. Vince started up. You went over to vent. And i got to come over there. Be on the show with you and talk about games over there and have a good time and now yeah. Talk to me about what you're doing now right now. I'm in between. I have officially started a new job. I just signed with new genetic. Can't say what it is yet. We will find out so nice. Everybody i got good to dave. Had some awesome hires lately. People that i know and people who did great work elsewhere. Alex steadman is really awesome. So i'm glad to see her over there every. No it's not him but it is now it's like if i just named sites we can keep just throw out and we'll see well that's awesome obviously It's great to have you see what people come in that. You don't know you don't know the co host that well i need to know what you're playing right now. What your favorite game of all time is and what your game of the year. So far is god both of the all three of those really right now. I'm playing some not a good below zero. Which i've been playing for quite a bit. I started it. But i see people who start playing. Yeah should i. Is that a sacrilege entity that was my that taste that just made was played time. It's great you got to punch sea monkeys in the face and catch penguins school. Greatest game of all time has to be. And i'm saying greatest game of all time. Objectively knows a subjective question but i'm answering objectively and its final fantasy seven the original. It's unquestionable really. When you add them all up it has to be the best game math. What did you do the numbers. I liked it a little different. I thought the i don't want to spoil their territory. But it was a little confused by the i guess jerry cartoon now right. Yeah exactly integrate. I like it and cosmo canyon part. Not cosmo canyon. Four condor jesus. It's my favorite game. Amortised scream this read enough as some list over there. i'm talking about. What was the last question that you asked me right now with game of the year. Twenty twenty one for you. Oh god asked me ratchet clank right. Okay excellent excellent. i asked you did. I don't know. I think it's a toss up right now. I think there's a lot of great games out there that you can have. It reminds me a lot of the. What was your goddamn. I'm only twenty one thousand nine right where it was like. Hey there's a lot of cool shit out right now. But there's not the run-away away. Oh it's clearly got or clearly read did clearly spiderman. It was like you had this thing. I think you could make a case for eternal you can make a case arash clank right. I think the list can go on. You can make a case for village. Like tim continues to make right like there's so many great experiences have come on hold on real quick Dark knight. the chad is keeping me honest. And tell me. I forgot my superman. Light god dang it. Greg i can swear i guess unless you want all right well. Then shit brig. Oh my god hit the switch. Greg did you do find it. I couldn't find a kevin was buried back behind the book. I've never had to do it on the fly like this. I've never been called out about not gotten that battery pack for your proton pack. Well what kind of mood are you in today. Kevin are you in the you're gonna give me shit for everything mood or you. My friend kevin. Because i never sure which kevin i'm getting. Oh my god. That's a little baby to shift for everything. I've been too busy to take it off the wall. Take off the back. See how because you sent me a link inviting me. I'll help you with heaven. Come over anytime you want. And do this. Never over right patrick. I feel like a kid whose parents are arguing with each other. You know every something's going on. I'll look into this weekend cabinet. All right i swear in order for you the company card but i don't remember if dc batteries that was that was that was the main stopping alert both though the medicine they're doing to you know what i mean patrick enough moment proton. Pack like glad. There's a lot of things going on. But they're still so many other game news things to talk about like death. Stranding director's cuts details seafood getting delayed. And why it's getting delayed and of course everything else from playstation state of play. We're gonna talk about all this and more because this is kind of funny games daily each and every weekday and variety of platforms. We run you through the video game. News ne- no bat. Do you like that. Be part of the show at patriot. Dot com slash. Kind of funny games of course over on patriots dot com slash. Kind of funny games. You can write it with your questions. Comments concerns squad up requests in everything under the daily video game son. of course i'm patriot. Dot com slash. 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So we and set the record straight for everybody watching later on youtube dot com slash kind of funny games rooster teeth dot com and listening on podcast services around the globe each and every week day housekeeping for you. We have announced when we are going to debut the new studio. When will we begin working out of the new studio. I will save the actual date for you to go watch the video. You can get it wherever you get your kinda funny content us on twitter. It's on instagram. It's on both youtube channels. It's over there. Tim did a great job with the navy. Degrade job with it. It's a fun little short video to get yourself hype for when we're going into it. I would roll the trailer now but then we will get dmca claiming of your whole thing. Patrick you know what i mean is shut everything down these musicians. If you use my song you gotta pay me. Get outta here with not about that life. That wasn't enough for you. Remember of course black widow is out which means you in review is returning today. We are recording that episode kevin. I don't know if you know. I forgot to ask him. I assume that's going up as soon as possible. That's one of the ones we're gonna record this afternoon on friday and then hit the button right. Yeah i would imagine you have to imagine and by black widow. You gotta get that out there. Yeah what do we do. We care about it. And if that wasn't enough remember of course then. Next week loki finishes up. So we'll have one final loki reacts and then we're gonna do loki and review and take the whole series and put that into the mc you in review giant lists. Lots of stuff's happening for you. Of course. I don't need to tell you all about this especially our patriot producer. Blackjack who knows all about it because he supports us over on atrium dot com slash kind of fun games also supporting this episode of the show are expressed. Vpn and honey. But i'll tell you about them later for now. Let's begin the show. With what is an forever will be the rope. Report it did. They did it. They did it for some new. This big rosen. Now i'm i make. I might be cheating patrick. I say four items on the rope report right but two of them are breaking out of the playstation state of play. Obviously state of play was yesterday so you got the main story of state of play and everything can happen. But then i thought they were big enough that they needed to come out. Will you give me that leeway. I will reluctantly. I appreciate it. It's my better judgement allowing you are adjust god and your fair and i appreciate that. That's all i wanted to hear. We will start over at the playstation blog. Where j bore from kojima productions writes about death strandings director's cut in some actual details of course actually had stated play. We saw more on it. We got a release date. But let's let j. take the stage deaths. Trainings director cut is packed. With a ton of new content enhanced gameplay features we are introducing new more weapons. Ah let me try this all again. I'm asking water. Kevin asked patrick about his colors. So what's going on with your colors. Seen a lot of browns tans creams. It's pretty for the desert collected. Just keep that sand motif going. Am i want to understand all of the. Yeah but also the photo above us blue. You have some blue hints. I liked that blue on your at the beautiful composition credit to my wife. Yeah risk good job. This is what rubik's cube green and the blue. You know that you see in that all right back board the playstation blog now than have coffee mouth death straightening director's cut his packed. With a ton of new content enhanced gameplay features we introducing more weapons equipment vehicles a variety of new modes missions and areas to explore expanded storylines and enhancements to the ui. We will also be adding new online features including friend. Play leaderboards more news on that coming soon. Then he talked a little bit more. So i'm jumping around. But for starters the content that we're introducing to death straining director's cut was all built and developed from the ground up following the launch of the original death stranding everything from the firing range area to the additional missions to the all new fragile circuit racing mode be aim was introduced new content that would further expand the world with in-depth stranding while enhancing the core gameplay experience. The new content isn't simply bolted on. Either it's been carefully woven into the core game experience and will be made available through discovery as you play. Most of the new content is fairly easy to find though there are some bits and pieces. That will take some time to find. Lock although i can't go into too much detail about the new missions and extended storyline at this point. What i can share is that a few hints. Haven't added the latest trailer. We've released to give a few clues as to where you can as to what you can expect. We'll have more to share in the weeks to come though. I can't confirm now that all of the half life and cyberpunk twenty seventy seven content introduced to the version of death. Stranding will also be available in-depth stranding director scott. Well i know around like all right playstation four console. Save data will be transferable. We wanted to ensure that players no matter where they are in their journey could pick back up relatively in the same area as they left off when playing on playstation four while also enabling players who have already completed the game to the ability to jump into the new areas where the new content and equipment can be discovered playstation five features. This is written. But it's what you'd expect. Experience environments with the dual sense wireless haptic feedback get closer to the world. That stranding with bespoke adaptive trigger resistance. Here sound effects. Come to life in three. D audio requires compatible headlines. I get into the action quickly with the playstation fives ultrafast. Ssd and near instant load times. Choose from to picture modes performance mode with upscale four k. And up to sixty frames per second or fidelity mode in native four k. Both with ultra-wide in hd our support backs. Here's what a lot of people are asking if you already own the playstation. Four version of debt stranding. You can get the. Ps five director death stranded director's cut digital deluxe edition upgrade for only ten dollars or ten euros. Mr shanley where do you wanna start first off. I guess a top. Did you play the stranding. Did you like stranding. i did play it. I didn't dislike. It is that are too vague. I didn't think it was great. But i enjoyed it. I guess it just. It was a bit too much walking for me frank. Yeah if the words rocking simulator gonna be thrown around. This is a game where literally. Ucla walk sure this hiking simulator right down. Slippery slopes and things. Yeah i don't know. I like the weirdness of it. I thought the performances were very good. I just i. i didn't get into it the way that other people get into it. I did not think it was the best kojima game that i play. Let's put a sure. And i don't see many people beating their chests for that. I remember i. I enjoyed deaths training. I had a lot of fun with training. I when our review. I was very clear that yes it is a walking or hiking simulator right and i found that tranquil. I found that meditative i. I enjoyed my favorite. Parts of that. Game are the are cool. Get from point a to point. B all the way over there right. It was more the cool. Now there's this boss fight you have to shoot and it was like well. This isn't i don't feel like this is what the game has been nor. Do i feel like this fits with what i've been doing but on the side of it. I enjoyed the article. I'm just taking these packages over and now it's it's like a you know a ups simulator. Now it's raining. I gotta worry about these packages get destroyed. I i didn't have lasting power. Or have i thought much about it since then. I'm sorry back to you. Know it's a weird juxtaposition in that game of like you said walking and just balancing packages and then look now your flooding the giant flying wail blind. And then you're back to walking around and looking out for rain. It's sort of like if you may microsoft flight simulator in halfway through the game like godzilla showed up and he had like maneuver around godzilla. Shoot like bullets. That's how i feel with training. It's two things happening at once. Let's put it so now. What about this director's cut from you as a as somebody who's played it. Does it give you any reason to go back. Are you interested to get back into it. I think that there's a lot more than i expected to be in. This new contents applauded for that. I think director's cut is a weird phrase that is being thrown around and games right now and it's kind of a new coat your thing that we're gonna see i. What's the difference between this and just like expansion packer. Dlc it's it seems the same to me and yet they're calling it a director's cut. I'm happy with the price. I will leave it at that and say that ten dollars seems fair but i do not like the trend of director's cuts to be honest with you especially games update for years. We have games for free that just update all the time now dollars. Gay marriage spend sixty bucks on why i mean i think you know you can see through it pretty quickly right like i keep saying i keep saying since yesterday right of lie director's cut so much. Nps i love you right like when we get the third one then. We can finally say yes. Playstation is pushing with the director's cut being label trend. Director's cut for playstation is very clear right. It's because that shit we got we got. We got beat badly with this smart delivery from xbox in so rather than keep offering up the. Hey it's the playstation five version of this game have people go like put over here. There are no version and not in this one they get to do it and guest director cut. There's more packed into it. There's something going on to your you and they are offering value. I think the closest sushi director's cut. I can't fucking wait for. We're going to be all about iki island and all that jazz. I'm not saying. I'm not putting them down. I just think would not not having my third one yet to prove my point. I think that there's a mantra inside of like cool. This is how we're going to get around people be like yours double dipping. Oh this is how can you put out last part one again. Remastered when you already have it remastered and it's backwards compatible. It worked and people by the thing. Is everyone criticizes the sticker that keeps slapping on a things but people. It's news so i might as well pick it up so if it's working i can't really fault them. I do think that goes to shimano. I'm glad you brought it. Up is a little bit different because it seems like there's a lot more content there but that costs thirty dollars now. So now what's the price. The price seems to be all over the place. I think they are gonna do the last of us part two director's cut off. So i think the third one is already in the chamber. They're just waiting to pull that trigger. What about bloodborne. And that's what we started. Tim got me percolating. Yesterday i would be more excited. Because i love bloodborne right. Yeah death straining. We were talking about this yesterday. On the state of play reactions. Of course you can watch reactions youtube dot com slash kinda funny games and it is that thing of i enjoyed deaths stranding i i remember at the time being like man after the holiday rush because it was you know review season. I'm gonna come back and try to platinum. This and i turned it on at one point but it was that traditional. I turned back on my way. What was i doing in where what what do i need to do. And so i'm going to turn it on again here. Because i wanna see the playstation five upgrades and i wonder if if i run the new missions. If it'll get me up to speed again to then actually go. You know what. I'd like to go through and play more of this but of course it is launching on september. Twenty four thousand dollars yesterday's As well and so then you get into this well. September is going to be crowded. October's right around the corner. Like am i really gonna spend time going back to this old game and then just and it's weird thing of like do new missions sure whereas like ghost. I feel like is an old game as well of course but we'll be this giant new island of whole new trophies for me again and it's less old at least they'll drop you relatively close to where you were the last time you picked it up. Which is the vegas description of what he's talking in this game and it's going to be no matter where they are in their journey could pick back up roughly the same area your kind of close to where you're talking about. I found that very strict. What about this. What's listed here. That would actually get you. Excited about. Jumping back in is there in content that other than not. Ps five and seeing the upgrade. What's new here. That's going to make a jump. They can raise me see. That's the thing where it very much is a. I want to see it. I thought the game was very beautiful and playstation four. So what does it on playstation. Five right i want to get in there and see the environments and get caught in that rain and have fun but then it is the none of the stuff. They're putting at the end of the post. It's all the top right where they're talking about more weapons equipment vehicles new modes new missions new areas to explore expanded storylines like all. That sounds like something that could be really cool. My hope would be again to what we were just talking about where it is like well bosses. I don't remember like the combat felt weird. It didn't feel like that's what you know saying puerto mergers would be up to you out there in the world. If it suddenly is that i come in and cool here. Three new guns and they don't break the game that's not what i mean but they make you feel empowered of like okay cool. Now i'm gonna go take on these mules nominee do that. Because i always felt the way. I played it to be very defensive in vary like i'm going to sneak around this kind of stuff and do it if this is trying to make it more of like cooler making it a bit more actually. We're trying to get more of that. Into the vein. I could be down for more of that. I think we have to ask that. Question is what kind of leaves me on the fence right here. I wish if there's a lot of information that was all very vague and did it. Tell me what was going on here in the and it's such a difference from i feel like what we got with ghosts right. We're go site. Director scott was so easy to spell out. Granted they're going to say. Oh it's brand new island with new sores new missions new animals and stuff like that and here they're talking about you know more missions more areas to explore but as jay goes on you can still see you know kajima is influenced right of just like hey like we don't tell you what's going on in this thing. Hey easter eggs for what you could go fine. And the game. That's exciting. that's cool. Go deliver some more packages for jeff. I'm about it. Yeah i forget what. I remember the half-life and cyberpunk stop let's see what that's all about. Yeah it'll be something. I'd i turn on transfer my safe for but i will be interested in myself grabs me. I just do think it's funny that this cost one third the price of the ghost shema one and yet i feel way more secure spending thirty dollars on a ghost shema upgrade than i do here on kissed director scott because i know what i'm getting at least to some degree here i feel like it's the role of the dice. It's only ten bucks. Whatever if you have it good for you. God bless you. They do sound like they're gonna talk more about it right so it. Is that thing of the marketing tease right there. Marketing scheduled how they talk about this. You figure you got a lot of time before you get over to september twenty fourth so for them to talk about this whereas ghost is like we're in august. Here's everything you need to know. We'll talk about legends of a little bit excited. We're gonna get nine minutes a game play from the director's cut of in the next day to play. I guess just be walking. He wanted to be able to complete the mission. Now there's no dialogue. it's just walking falling down a hill dropping packages and then at the end and conan. O'brien god forgot about him. I've forgot that conan this game number two on the rope. Reports seafood's ben delayed of course independent game key. Toss up the trailer for this is one that the february event had caught. Everybody caught a resides. it's the kung fu game. It's when you're going through you as you at yesterday's trailer from state of play Showed us showed off a lot of the as you fail in the missions. Your doing you actually age up Everybody been superstar for this. It was. It's been one of the bells of the ball in terms of people talking about playstation games and it was announced to be coming out in twenty twenty one however yesterday at the end of their trailer. They actually said it's coming to at twenty twenty two now early. Twenty twenty two. This was accompanied by a tweet around the see through account. That'll read here while you watch some stuff from slow cap so slow. Clap the tweet read. We were hoping to release seafood before the end of twenty twenty one but this won't be possible without compromising quality and having the team punch for months neither which is acceptable. Even if it's even if it's for the best we're very sorry for the delay. Thank you for your patients This is the one that. I saw a lot of people bummed out about obviously being fled because the game was awesome. As you see it here as you go through inches brawl around throw people off of the buildings thrown through things as you'd be the people club But obviously following up on that tweet from slow clap right. Take all the time you need and don't make people crunch patrick Yeah it's nice to see so many of these types of messages across the industry lately. There received much better than they used to be. I think there's more of an understanding on both sides of this equation. Now that people are not. I need my game. There's still those people. There's always going to be those people but generally people are on the side of we don't want you crunch. We're ready for the game whenever the game is coming out plus there's such a wide breadth of games right now and you really want seafood. So let me preface it with that. But i i have enough time. You yeah one hundred hundred percent right. And i feel like you know i get it. I totally understand when a game gets delayed. You being bummed out about it. Because i remember being a kid reading. Gm stuff and stuff start slipping you start getting mad like oh man people making this are lazier. Whatever and now you know to be an adult and understand how you know work life balance to understand how this is going let alone to understand. Covert right which around the playstation blog. from a slow clap Felix had posted this thing where he's talking about the delay a little bit more detail right. And this is what he writes the cova crisis and the subsequent lockdowns. I've been a huge challenge for everyone and although we were lucky lucky enough not to face the important revenue losses that many businesses have gone through situation did create some real challenges for us since march twenty twenty. We have had to adapt to changing Changing regulations switching the whole team to remote working while we continue our development work and we often velocity as a consequence remote working has its advantages but losing daily informal interactions between team members can also be hard to manage. We still felt earlier this year that we can make our original plan launch date but as the deadline grew closer. It became clear that we wouldn't be able to do so without putting the quality of the game at risk or creating huge pressure on the slow clap team. Neither of these options were acceptable to us. We're very sorry for about this delay as gamers ourselves. We know how frustrating this can be and as an independent studio working multiple years on a single project. Delaying a game can also create financial risks. So it's certainly not a decision that we took like lightly but at the end of the day our top is to make the best possible game a hugely entertaining in policy experience. And we'd rather ask our fans to wait a little longer than planned in. Release something then release something. We're not totally proud of so. Of course go get him. Yeah totally fair. I think with any game that has hype around it. That hype is going to sustain itself unless we're talking seven years on even it's fine to delay games. I think everyone is kind of on the page of we don't want people to kill themselves making these games and i'm already excited about this game. What's a little bit more weight and what we saw yesterday from. This game. looks amazing. So i am. I'm totally fine with this. I was a little surprised that this game all games would be delayed just naively because it's an indie game. It doesn't seem to be as involved as some games but again. I think there's such a. I talk about this all the time. But there's this Mysticism around game. Design that i think a lot of people don't really understand what goes into it or how much work it takes the polish these things off and so anything that can break down that divide between the developer and the game audience to really understand what's going into this. I think is good for the industry as holistically and i think that every time this happens and they're just upfront about what's going on. It pushes that courtroom afford one hundred percent. I talk about this all the time right. Is that modern game. Development is being open and it is sharing and it is over sharing. I think in a lot of ways obviously not financial is how much you're paying people or whatever stuff like that like those kind of very closeted l. Let's keep the team together kind of thing but in terms of what's going on like audience will always be. I feel like totally behind. Hey we're trying to make this game better. It's when there's no nothing it's win. The game gets delayed in. There's no statement and nobody talks about what's happening. Why like just to hear them to come out here and be like. Hey yeah cogan all by fucked up. Everybody an hey. We're not doing crunch right like now. Yeah that's what you want from developers. You want them to do. And i think you know i always looked to recently. My example is a three or four three in halo infinite in the way that like you know the when they had their big delay and it had been quiet then to pivot and delay again another big delay. But this time around be like. Hey here are blog posts. And here's our and talk about. And here's we're going to say about it even filling interviews being honest of like. Hey it's still coming this year it a holiday released but like we are literally trying to pick between two weeks and that's what it is. It's not that we're thinking we're not gonna make it we're gonna make it. It's just like those kind of conversations go so far to demystify what game development is totally. I think when it's a bigger ship. Something like three forty three or microsoft as a whole xbox as a whole it's harder for them to turn because this is not how the industry has been going always. This is a more recent development whereas these indie studios have an easier. Time being upfront and telling people what's going on. There aren't as many shareholders employees. It's not as big. Ibm in operation. So i get it. From both sides. It is nice to see people like phil spencer to come out and say things like this. He's he's great. Always very open on these types of issues I don't know. I feel like. I'm repeating myself but it is good for the industry when we see stuff like this. All of that said. I do want seafood and the game looks so bad and started before. I wanna talk about the age mechanic in this game because the school members do okay. So if you're not aware you age every time you die in this game but you don't age infinitely you get to a certain point and then it's game over in the not anymore. You've got to start all over again. I think that's such an awesome game mechanic and you don't get weaker as you age. I think they deliberately pointed that out. It's sort of taking from old kung fu movies at several. You like a wise and master by the end of it. That adds this element to this game. That i think i'm the most excited about that. And seeing it. Because i die all the time because i gotta suck. Oh yeah. I know. I'm gonna i'm gonna die a lot in these levels and i think i'm right there with you of what a cool mechanic and watching it last year yesterday not last night but during the state of play and watching him die than age die than age. I was thinking. Oh man that's going to be interesting. Balance of you're talking about is you're gonna get weaker. Is he going to become old. And feeble or whatever. That's not the case. I'm gonna read you two paragraphs that over here felix walk. Kung-fu the mastery. That comes from a life of training and practice in the aging mechanic in death and the asia mechanic and death are also central to the trailer in seafood. That concept inspires both the main characters drive and philosophy. And we want to make it part of the gameplay experience itself players can make mistakes try again in learning the process. We wanna make that experience smooth and fluid players will be able to restart instantly when they died. Anki going forward until an unstoppable force. Like an unstoppable force of revenge you cannot age eternally however eventually you will become too old and have to start your path again. You don't get weaker you h on the contrary Like the old masters of classic kung fu movies as the main character becomes older. They have more experience skills and knowledge to apply to the fight like true kung fu kung fu student to reach your objective. You'll have to improve practice and perseverance. That's awesome that the more. You're dying the more actually. The game is unlocking free to go. Screw screw around be stronger. Yes a smart way to kind of handle like. Oh you aren't very good at this game. So let's make it a little bit easier for each time. You die but do it in a waivers reflected in the game play in the design of the game. I think that's really cool. If i'm reading that correctly which is how i choose to accept it. That's how i choose. That's the truth. I'm accepting all right. That's how it is then ladies and gentlemen number three on the rope report. Let's get into the state of play. Recap of both seafood and deaths. Rainy came from this. But if we want to go blow by bobo blow by blow through the actual show. Gosh it's been a long week. Patch is the little stenographer. Sound that we started the segment with is that only at the beginning. We doing for everything. Because i gotta go. I realized that. I could kind of spin it and we gladly do it again. I kinda wanted to see okay. Well let's continue. What is an forever will be the rope report. They did it they did. They did it. They more story much better did. We'll we'll look into getting this global senate thank you thank you. We will need that. we will need. You'll always know where you are. It's great it's invalid. It'll be bugged calm so going through it right. State of play started with mosque book to. That's right there. Announced moss book to the sequel tomasz on playstation vr. They did not give a date I had a little follow up interview with the developer. After the fact of course polly ark and there i my first question when they let me go as like psychosis the ps vr game. And they're like. We're not ready to talk about that. But we are excited to work more with dual dual sense for urgel shock for will show interest. They were referencing the same controller layout they had for the original moss. We'll see what happens there. But no date Anything other than a trailer was new environments into look dope because moss's dope we also got arcade gidon from ill phonic. That went into early access. Yesterday it is a run around. Have some fun shooter that you can play playstation right now it will see a full release in twenty twenty two and then tribes of mid gar was shown again we've seen tries to guard the gearbox conference. I think we saw somewhere else during three as well. It's a game that i should be all about what something about. It is putting the off the not being all about it. Patrick and i just need to play. I'll just play on. It comes out and see. Is it because you've seen it fifty five times or is it because vikings are everywhere right now. Nothing doesn't have north mythology in it in some facet. I mean that could be could be a part of it you know. I don't know. I think it's the art styles just isn't doing it for me but i think everything they say about the game plan you know what about you. Did moss archaic tribes do anything for you maas absolutely did and i'm not a big. Vr person famously threw up on a carpet at a press event when i was playing. And that's exactly that's my claim to fame. Yeah i wanna play. I love red wall. The rebel books. I was a big fan of them. When i was a kid. And this just has that vibe to me think it looks adorable and awesome and cool and if there's something i had this conversation yesterday if there's something to get you into vr. You know it's such. It's such a hard thing to get audiences who are not in vr in vr. So i want a game to make me forget about throwing up on that carpet. Getting in their moss to might be that game. Yeah i loved moss. one I thought it was a standout of course kevin and i did a playstation vr. Show about it here on kind of funny games that you should go check out but on it. Nobody vomited because marcus mazdas in. Not the good way. I guess but like isn't a very simple way where it is you know you have the scene playing out in front of you. You're sitting there holding the controller. And so like you can move in and like going closer to the scene but you can also sit back and play it pretty much from that perspective yes. That's better the game that i was playing. I was in a canoe and was kind of doing this thing. Back and forth kayak i dunno some type of water vessel and it was not great and i during the three press week so i think i was maybe drinking the night before so it wasn't this guy over here partying you know. They come. Patrick partying shanley. Do call is from there. The next three games we saw fist. This is forged in shadow tack. It's coming to playstation four playstation five on september seventh then hunters arena which is a fighting game mixed with a battle royale foreign policy. She five going to be a playstation plus game on august third and then seafood like we just talked about hunters arena. You're all about. I am because it blends genres. I love seeing people do new stuff with what's popular rather so fighting game and sort of like it looks like an emo to also the same time and then a Battle royale all mixed together. I just want to see what it is. Honestly the art style. I think it looks fun. It looks like something i pop into. I don't know. I just like i like when people kind of like mixed up like a chef in a kitchen greg. Sure yeah mash up the genres. We know so well right. I don't know why chef in a kitchen. I don't know what else a chance. Whatever really wanted to. He's one of those alleys chefs. He's just cooking and trash cans. No yeah that's the thing for me where it doesn't speak to me but i do like the idea that it is this battle royale biting game that sounds like something blessing would be all about interested to see what happens there next year. The were jet the far shore. We finally got to see this game in action. of course it was in a european magazine edge. I think recently but we learned about may the main character talk. There was a narration over. It is the spaceship was flown. All around for me personally with it right. It spoke to me. Because i love no man's sky but every time i've tried to go back to noman sky the base building resource management. All that stuff. Like i don't wanna do this. And they were very clear. It's not focused on combat or resource extraction. This is about a chill space game of exploring a planet and see what's up. They called exploratory adventure. Twenty twenty one. Ps five and ps four. Did this debut of footage do anything for you a little bit. I think they said during the presentation that it was. I think it used the word. Chill specific or that. I'm kind of into it. I don't mean this as an insult to a mobile game to me. I do not think mobile games in this sold by the way. And that's another one of my sticking points that i played with leg but i do think it looks like just something you throw on the end of the long day and just kind of zone out for like an hour or two so it was not the most exciting part of the presentation to me but i thought it looked beautiful. I kinda am excited to see what the story is. Because i wasn't expecting a deeper story and look like not say like flaw flower or rhyme. Don't have stories. They obviously do. But the crux of those games sort of exploration walking around you know and just seems to marry those two the storylines and that relaxing game play type of feel so i'm excited to see it. Yeah yeah me too. And you're not you know the mobile game comparison. You're not far off right. This is super brothers. Who had done swords and sorcery right. So that's where they had broken out and found where the studio had broken and find all the success. So i think you're apt in your comparison there demon slayer this a two from sega demon slayers come into place issue four places five on october fifteenth and then another look at loss judgment worth. Yeah dude lost judgement. I mean that should have been the nine minutes that they showed nothing against death. Loop but blast judgment. Looks frigging amazing. There's a corgi in it. It people sources say don't forget in doesn't that game habit as alley it's all over the place and also look gorgeous like if somebody you know they. They always go so far above beyond in the yakuza slash judgment series. Right of getting that. Facial- facial texture down a seamless running on place. You should five. I thought gorgeous. Yeah i thought it was live action. When i step it was judgment i dated and i think it was one of the last reviews. We did at hr. When i was still there. If i'm correct. I can't remember time line anyway. Gave it a rave review. I'm i'm happy to see the judgment series kinda flourishing on. Its own outside of just the accusers. Especially yeah as they've now given the beat him up stuff from yakuza just to judgment you coosa will now be turn based like yeah. I'm excited of course. Of course then it was already talked about director. Scott september twenty fourth and then. Yeah we ended with nine minutes of death loop coming. Fourteenth definitely is the same thing we've been saying forever. Game looks great. Just give me the game. I didn't need the nine minutes. I kinda didn't watch it with my full attention because i'm ready to play Definitely i don't feel like i need to see more definitely. Yeah now. i'm on the same page with you. In fact my friend and the coastline back as he deliberately did not watch the footage because he was like. I seem too much of this game. I don't wanna see anymore. That i just wanna play at this point. Stop ruined into format exactly. That senate looked gorgeous. That doesn't take away from. Death was just like fine line. You need to walk like how do you market a game and you sold the whole bunch of people. But she'll try to get that out to the mainstream is tough right. Yeah we have question related to this about the reaction to state of plays from the nato biologist. But patrick shanley before we do that. Remind you the nano. Biologists submitted this question over on patriots dot com slash. Kind of funny games where you can go to be part of the show just like nano did of course over there you can get the show at the post show you can get all the other shows and all the other post shows and all the things that you get all those shows ad free but guess what jack. 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That's honey dot com slash gains. The one the only banana. Biologists rights into patriot dot com slash. Kinda funny games just like you. Can't it says hi guys and happy. Friday i off congrats on the new studio announcement. Second was yesterday's state of play sony's big summer event. Everyone has been hoping for or was all the disappointment fan caused. I thought it was a good event. There was some cool reveals and good information was shared to us but with twenty twenty one being an extension of all havoc wrought by twenty twenty. Should we expect a big twenty twenty one event from playstation. Xbox nintendo basically showed us. What twenty twenty two is going to basically. They showed us that twenty. Twenty two is going to be the big year for gaming even if twenty. Twenty one's good prints these for now so. Should we expect the same thing from playstation. Patrick did you think yesterday state of play was a disappointment. No i was surprised to read that. No i mean. They told us what it was going to be. How do you be disappointed when you know what's going into it. Only people were disappointed with the people who kept spamming ragnarok question mark exclamation point and even though they literally told you in the description the video. I think it was a disappointment. We saw a lot of stuff those varied. I think it could fit right in with this year's e three if it was their sunny felt like doing it and then we forget they just did a state of play right before he three two in. May that was just one game but sure. I don't know the thing that i'm confused by in this. Was this sony's big summer gaming event where we expecting a big summer gaming. There's rumor there's been a rumor that yes playstations. Going to do a big august event. But it's like the when we started getting wound up about rumors. Like i feel like at some point with rumors. We started doing the whole taken with a grain of salt kind of thing. You know what. I mean in the same way. Everybody granted bloomberg's reporting on the nintendo switch switch pro. We think it's going to be something and it's we're so used to everybody right when things leak which broke switch pro comes out you know. The lead switched comes out all. It's kinda like this salesman. Avoid the hell. So everybody's still is expecting big playstation event but to your point like i'm not expecting it but i'm also not saying it's not going to happen. I think they can easily do something about that. They need to tell us what's going on with horizon and if you're releasing horizon this year i would say fuck. Yeah you're doing another being state of play that is hey here it is again. Here's the new feature you need to know about. And that's why we're going that way with it but if you're not then do you don't need to do that. And again that's playstation four found so much success with hey. The fall is the third parties. We don't need to worry about what we're doing over here you are. You're exclusives and you know the first party stuff will come in and it all come Starting in the spring of next year and so like the state of play thing yesterday. If you're bent out of shape and you're disappointed if you if thing of was the disappointment fan 'cause yes but he's asian told you up what you're getting what you weren't getting in so like if they're going to do that you can't then be mad about it. I do think to tim's point. Yesterday that does suck the hype out of the event. But then hopefully it minimizes disappointment. Yeah i think they're in a bad situation there. I think you have to tell people this because people keep getting upset about weird things like this. You can be nintendo and drop a surprise at the end of it but you also leave yourself open to people just screaming at you. If you don't have what they wanna have in there. So i don't know i see both ways. I would like if there was more surprises to events. however i'm not feeling the barrage of craziness when things don't go people want them to go. I just. I don't trust anyone ever any type of leak at says. Nothing and no one greg and because of that. I'm never disappointed. Because i get when i get and i'm all right. I'm lazy and laid back. You know. I don't hanging ash matthew mcconaughey about my game announcements alright. Alright alright. fans keep getting disappointed. I stay the same disappointment. Level always despite mark ruffalo hawk. I'm that's my all right. Yeah i think it's the same thing there. Should we expect the same from nato biologists that xbox xbox and nintendo were. Here's what the big thing for next year's no but i also think that's because playstation handles the so differently with state of plays that they do at almost quarterly and i'm feeling a bit there but you understand what i'm saying. They do regularly to an extent where they aren't in the business right now of. Here's our big conference and here's the big thing and not to mention you kind of know. What next year is going to be. I still think next year will be horizon. I don't think horizon hits this year. I think i agree with you. I think they will be saying next year. They're going gonna release god of war in next year. I don't think will make next year. Like i think you're gonna continue to see that domino effect on everything else. I party studios are working on. They'll continue to do that but they'll continue to things like this. That will get you hype for littler things. I mean the main trend right now. Is that everything you think is going to come out. When it comes out actually comes just a little bit later and if horizon was coming out this year. We probably already have a release date. That's my opinion on and to you know to what we were talking about earlier. I really appreciate it. Herman hulst interview when after the rising thing where he was like. Listen we're aiming for this year it could. We might not make. That goes on way to be like listen where we have all. We have the possibility of hitting this year. But we have the possibility of not. And i think i love that openness again. That's what i think. Development in general should be. But it's one of the reasons. Xbox is so successful right now in terms of getting fans behind them getting industry goodwill behind them. Is that spencer as a human being. You know greenberg's a human being. They talk about games and they talk about things so yeah let erm and say. Let her and say. I don't know what's we're trying. That goes so far. I agree number. Four on the roper import. Let's talk about g- inching impact. We're going to go to liam wiseman over at iga dot com who says impact to add new city cross. Save in more this month. Mi-ho me hojo's free to play anime style. Juggernaut just keeps growing as the latest update has been announced revealed in a press release. The new update brings a new city and region to explore new characters bosses in more the version. Two point zero update titled the immovable. God the eternal youth yukimi you see mia euphemia introduces the brand new. In a zuma region ruled by the electro arcand in zuma is across the sea from the main will regions that have been released so far according to the press release locations found within in zuma have completely different cultures creatures and mysteries the feature that perhaps has the most potential to shake up against an impact is the long introduction of cross functionality allowing players to spend spread their place allowing players to spread their play across multiple devices and keep their progress as game that is available across councils. Pc and mobile. This is a handy feature letting players choose. When how and on what device they wanna play version. Two point zero launches on july twenty first in brings with some additional features for players on the playstation five including dual cents haptic feedback support While will also offers will benefit from improved character shading And more feature optimization across a functionality against an impact is currently available across pc ps four ps five in mobile. The game was originally set to launch on nintendo switch but has since been delayed and we haven't heard anything about switch version for a wild now. Did you ever play. Yes very briefly. The sounds that impact directors cup by the way if it was playstation exclusive. That's what they call it. Yeah we'll they're missed. They missed the boat on that. Yeah a little bit. I wasn't superindent like gotcha mechanics that much but people love this game. I'm just blown away by how successful this game is and that people kind forget about like all controversy when this game was launched in that they were afraid of it like harvesting data and being used for all that. Too vaguely remember that. Yeah yeah just moved on from an announced just the juggernaut i think it's like the third highest grossing mobile game. If not of all time is probably not all the time but the last two years. It's number three. I think honor kings is number one and punching mobile still number two but regardless game just cranks out money in anything that you can keep having players come back to or attract new players for for game. If you know living service like this. I think is a smart move. It sounds like there's quite a bit here. I wish i was more familiar with the game to honestly you know imron loved it. I remember or played. A lot of maybe runs a weirdo. Maybe he didn't like it but in iran. If you're listening to jump in the or the dischord and then i remember shuhei like i saw a tweet about a two. And it's like you said like it was a game that everybody's playing for a while. So i i know that it does have a thing and i was reading on cocoon today. They had an article up about how it was more. Obviously an an an op. Ed about this. This is the real game changer. Of like i put hundreds of hours into pc. But i want to play it on my console. But i don't want to restart on my council so they have this ability there to be able to transfer over and go like yeah totally make sense in good on them for doing this and you know getting in their for their audience and just as a wider trend I think we're seeing more this already. I think we're gonna see a lot more of a game of pop on two different platforms and what that does for the game developer in terms of trying to make revenue or just reaching a wider audience. It's so useful. It's i mean if you wanna talk about a game changer for the entire industry. That's one right there. One hundred percent and i love to see you know what i mean. I think it's so awesome that we're finally seeing cross play. Cross save the ability of people thinking of their games is platforms rather than what platform. They're all in having these silos walled guards while we are live. Patrick we have breaking news. Oh my producer. Kevin breaking news. The gloves out destroyed it all of south. America's just lost your wife gonna come here so pissed. I love you. Rubik's cube rubik's cube. I'll breaking news from the one. The only jeff keely jeff over on twitter is putting out the information from net flicks. The witcher season two will come to netflix. On december seventeenth twenty. Who and recap will back at it. Like a bad habit cannot buck in wait. I love the witcher season one into it. Yeah big time did you watch it. i did. Did i watched it early. Because this was back when i was at hr and i got to talk to a lot. Yeah i get this horrible to admit. I've never played the witcher three and so i know i felt a little. I was one of the people who kind of came into it with fresh eyes. Okay implanting oh my video game knowledge on me. i wasn't. I was the biggest witcher person. So i played. You know what you're three for. What thirty hours. Which of course is not it. Actually game nothing but i caught some of the references but overall i thought it was really well done story really cool. Show did well. It's coming. greg december seventeenth merkley calendar. Here's the problem patrick. December seventeenth is so far away. If i wanted something more immediate say what came to the mom and pop shops. Where when i go. Well greg on the official list of upcoming software across each and every platform as listed about the kind of funny games daily show host each and every weekday do tutu. Yeah now today. Monster hunters stories two wings of ruin on switch and pc. So what how. Cocoa cocoa needs help is a games cast reference. That's sweeping the world by storm. Everybody tweeted anti cortes. Tells coco shirt. All right andy. Cortes imagine earth xbox series x slash s and xbox one blue fire xbox one beasts of marville island on xbox one police stories on xbox one swords of imagines online on pc by q. Hundreds of melodies on switch shopping mall parking on switch kevin. I need a chairman for shopping mall parking lot. If that's me managing a parking lot. You bet your ass on buying hope. It's getting the cards and putting them back to the chorale when all of that. It's like you know like getting people. Taking people told me people. They're parked bad stuff like people out and give them little tickets. Of course we just we just wanna we need that. God complex i get off on it. shopping mall parking lot. Kevin is looking for the trailer fantasy cards on switch. Connect bricks switch black skylines on. There's a new disarm app launching for showdown test servers today. What the golf gets a big switch up date. Oh yeah today but it wants to week early by accident which is also twenty levels. What i just said. I thought kevin. I'm sorry yeah oopsy for sure. That was a funny press. Release like things happen and this is out a week earlier go. Grindstone has released a new themed area and more in the free. Lost layer. update grey zone gets a major update today on steam and then gamespot reports a new max. Rate event is underway and poke lawn sword and shield What this is it. This parking park the cars. This is like the weird course. Yeah no carts just driving the cars through the points. I don't know about that. I don't know about that information whatsoever. Don't like that one opportunity. The good news is though patrick. You and i have just pitched a game that some indeed have out there right now can hit us up and give us sixty four percent of the prophets filing filing a copyright. Thank you very much. We'll call it the real shopping mall parking lot this anyways back to this pokemon pokemon associated with the galar. Curry metals will appear more frequently. In the max ray dens across both games and you'll even receive some version exclusive food items. Help you complete your curry deck decks. It's available until july eleventh. The new dates for you. Such art genius artists simulator enters early access on july fourteenth. And then i ask an access games to ask this. I'll say ask us anytime. Access games announced today. They will reveal a new slate of new titles. Present new looks previously announced titles. Live stream gameplay special guests all at the all access event taking place on their official twitch channel access games on friday august six beginning at nine a. m. pacific time. 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Hey if and only got delayed once you are correct damage. Sorry i made it sound like to delays. But what i meant is of course when it got pushed from holiday i think we all thinking first half of twenty twenty one of course and then they're like no holiday but i got that one. I screwed that up. I thought it flat i great dinkic know where they're coming for you buddy. I see one in here. God damn wall. Don't worry about it. this isn't a you're wrong but kebabs wants to get us back on noman sky in writes in the expeditions mode of noman sky. Smooths out a lot of the grind by giving big rewards for accomplishing tasks. It's super superority. You should give it a shot. Maybe i will. But i probably won't. Oh yeah here you go. You're dead in the water right now. Forever into writes in and says the dog shown in loss judgment is a sheba e new not a corgi. Oh my god and a fool coward gets me you. Also you called fist forged in shadow tech. But it's actually forged in shadow torch either way it's not a great name but fist is coming soon. Only going to hear your cable rescue dog fact of all the facts wrong. That's when you got this one. That's what i always like shame Biologists has here new date from rooster teeth next. Ruby game has been announced that rt exit home ruby aero fell with is a collaboration between way forward arc system works in rooster teeth. It comes out councils and pc's and twenty twenty two. Well there you go and they just put it in here a. L. w. t. gaming says again. Not a you're wrong. But patrick you're very entertaining co host. Great job man. You kill the today nice. I appreciate that between a guy just blasted vitamins. Guy guy dog dog super annoying. This fucking moron. I agree the patrick. Fantastic on this episode of kind of all. Thank you so much. I know it's hard. You said you just signed an employment contract. Do you know when you'll be announcing it. 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175. Bumper Boats: a calming meditation and kids story
"The low our islanders. Today we are happy to share a favourite story and relaxation. With you before we begin. We want to remind the grown-ups who are listening that hundreds of be calm on our island episodes are available on patriots looking for a particular favourite story or a special meditation. Want stories about dragon. More episodes read by a male or female narrator. You can find just the right story and dot com slash our island now. Let's get ready to relax Hello our islanders. Let's see if you have everything you want to become on our island. Are the lights in your room. Dim are off. Do you have your favorite blanket or listening buddy before we begin our story. Let's relax by taking three deep dragon breaths breathing through your nose filling up your belly and then out through your mouth imagining that. You are breathing. Fire ready deep breath in and out again deep breath in and out last one. Fill up your belly deep breath in and out today the air will help you feel calm as if you arresting on a cloud. This is all pretend and you are very safe. You'll start by focusing on your feet slowly. Move up to your head and and by thinking about your entire body ready to find your cloud warm and sunny sky. The cloud is soft and fluffy like a giant pillow. The breeze circles you as you lie back on the cozy pile of fluff. Think about your feet focusing on how they feel your feet feel warm or cool. Has they float on the soft cloud. You feel the breeze. Washing between your toes does the win. Tickle the bottom of your feet let the cloud float you're up and brees like a dragon in and out focus on your legs. How do they feel let the cloud support them. Your legs are light and flooding. Just like your feet relax and feel the warm breeze world around you has the soft cloud gently rocks you back and forth and think about your back how does it feel relax into the fluffy cloud and breathe like a dragon in and out the soft cloud hugs and gently rocks you as you flowed in the air. How do your hands feel your hand is open with your fingers. Spread out allowing the breeze to circle. Feel your hands. Soften as they float on the warm cloud your body is light and calm hugged by the comfy. little cloud. Think about your arms. How do they feel. the wind. shanley swirls around them. Has you rest your arms on the fluffy cloud with your feet. Legs back hands and arms. All relaxing noticed the lightness in your body and float focus on your shoulders. Feel them soften as they settle into the cloud like a dragon and doubt the cloud. Hugs your body gently and rocks you back and forth can fourth think about your neck is relaxed soft. Feel the winds sway your head from side to side as your head rests on your cloud pillow. Enjoy the feeling of comfort as the cloud gently cushions here head. Loosening your jaw and your for the soft breeze world around your face and body relaxing you even more now. Your whole body is floating as the cozy. Clouds supports your feet. Legs back hands arms shoulders and neck. Relax and feel the cloud hug and rock you back and forth kim fourth wrapped in the area blanket as you continue to float. Let's take three more deep dragon. Breaths breathe deep in and out a breathing in through your nose and breathing. Fire out your mouth again. Deep breath in and out last one. Fill up your belly deep breath in and out. Great job everyone. I hope you are tucked in nice and cozy okay. I think we're ready to begin our story. Let's be calm on our way island. Our story today is bumper. Boats sunshine streamed down through the club's sparkling on the calm water. All the boats rested their slips waiting for their captains to take them out to sea for the day manny. The motorboat waited patiently in a slip next a weekly. The wave runner. The little wave runner was still asleep. Enjoying peace of the harbor. Manny looked over to see if teagan the tugboat and sandy. The sailboat were awake. Teagan was already out and about seeing if anyone needed help. Sandy was up to and she sighed deeply. What's up. sandy manny asked. It's a beautiful morning. The sunrise is beautiful. There's just no wind. I won't be able to sail with everything is calm. Sandy said then she realized this was the type of weather that manny preferred. The sailboats smiled and said it is perfect weather for you though. I guess i can trade off some windy days with calm days so you can have a chance for some fun to the motorboat smiled back and said we do tend to like opposite types of weather. Well we both like sunshine. Maybe we can hope for a sunny day. 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CrossHair: Your Automatic Pair Programmer
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So philip can you start by introducing yourself man. I'll just pay on the primary deb on for my day job. I work on maps data for google. And i got introduced a python in the mid two thousands. I joined to start doing news aggregation and so Was the thing back then. Just starting off by putting some purba type stuff from java python started and so that led you down the path of using python fairly regularly. I'm sure and i'm wondering if you can give a bit of an overview now the cross air project is and some of the story behind how that got started and your motivation for putting your time and energy into always been interested in come software verification and proof assistants. Wait atkin to win. A sale to was a thing which has and more recently. I've been excited about a product liquid haskell which is a refinement type system that what you say even more things about gresko code that uses a thing called. Nsm peace over which is amazing technology. That lets you do all sorts of deductions. And i was really curious about trying to apply some of that technology. And so i had a few missteps and things that didn't work out along the way the current about find some of that intelligence by uncle. Can you give a bit. Of an example of the types of use cases that it enables or some of the ways that fits into the overall development flow at maybe some of the other tools in the python ecosystem that it might either augment or replace in many cases can be used alongside existing tools. Though one of the ways you can use it to put your conditions in the contracts and the parties you want to buy inside the doctrine you can do that alongside your dot tests so you can add some examples than also specify a properties that should always hold about Nice energy there. There's other works in space gear. So if you're familiar with property testing tools there's a product called hypothesis. That also is in the face of trying to figure out like oh like what's true about my code. And how can i verify that. It's going to be true for all imports. And so this is very much the same sort of thing that australia's funds do and one of the places where i think we'll see some convergence offices a probabilistic kind of tool wary for random data at your own and prosser tries to be a little bit smarter but the probabilistic approaches is better in some other cases in the long run. We're going to see some convergence around that it's an interesting to dig into and actually had the hypothesis developer on the podcast. Awhile ago and i'm curious. Sort of what. The relative strengths are four contract-based development and prove theorems versus the probabilistic approach where it uses the type system to generate randomized data to understand when things break. I think there's two axes here. So you can talk about contracts. You can talk about property testing and then you can talk about separately. Grandma's than symbolic purchase Actually all four cases are possible. For instance. i haven't talking with hatfield. Dodds who is one of the corporate investments and he is interested in using Like using some across to demonstrate hypothesis tests because the same engine can be used for both and conversely. I've been looking at how to get more randomized testing puts into verify prosser contracts and so you can actually imagine for these narrows and they all have different ages in. This event is in some sense. The property testing and contract distinction isn't actually that important in some sense. The only real differences. The contract is like an intrinsic part of the function. You're writing whereas the property tests serves sits outside the definition of thin but in some things. That distinction isn't isn't terribly but the way in which you try to verify property symbolic or this or randomize approach does significantly change how effective the tool is going to be in terms of trying to figure out what we're doing so some typical things that are great for randomized purchase. Are things like where you need to hash value. You're doing some complex manipulation of a thing another example of like. Oh i'm gonna take the string of a number and figure out what the third characterize and as you do more of these complicated computations it gets harder for a symbolic engine jaundice. Stand like oh okay. The third character. This is a three when the original member of like these other numbers so the more those things he on heart gets symbolic and sometimes just throwing lots of random data added more effective. So i think the ideal solution will ultimately craig aspects of both of these systems to work actively going on right now in terms of the categories of problems or ways that the program might violate expectations. What are the types of constraints that you can impose by using cross hair and adding these contracts and being able to discover ways that the contract is not being met by the code. That's actually implementing the logic. Basically a contract can verify anything. You can write in python code so when advantage over some other systems. They'll try to narrow. The language used to describe the properties of your program pressing doesn't tell you if you can run python code. It will try to find some way to make. I think return false no matter what. That code is fun since that is fairly freeing or the paint on velvet brand in terms of you can express. It doesn't mean that everything you can express concern is going to fine. So there's plenty of things you can right where do have honor examples. That we simply won't be able to find. It is a bug finding tool. It is not a real software verification. The other sorts of things that it can handle are things you might expect. There might not thin properties. That might wanna test might include things like run time or another thing. People talk about his termination. Prosser does not do a termination verification or anything like that right so you have. It solved the halting problem. No and so the only way we get around that is by setting like yes. Sometimes we can't do it and another category of tools. That i was thinking about in terms of you might use in the same breath as crosshairs something like pedantic where you have this validation that the inputs to a particular object are going to match a certain set of types and that there are these validations that you can execute to ensure that the values are within a certain range or meet a certain criteria. And i'm curious how you see things like pay danton crosshairs either coexisting or obviating. The need for each other. I go they obviate the need for each other actually did try hide-and-seek with prosser recently and it doesn't work for reasons that i but probably maybe get into later. One thing you might do is use them together so when there is not really doing is anything about the tech systems. That are built into python. Already though you can use the type checker you can use pedantic to get into your system in terms of chats. You are bleeding a little bit into author law in contracts. Have this thing called variance. Which are related here. Which i just things four type of data we expect these conditions. Always be true so getting the way. They're he's like oh. This always has to be an engineer. But you can also say like this optional fields should only be present when this is up to this other valley and so when when you get to that kind of level of constraints something like And in variant really helps you. The concert supports multiple contracts systems. Right now and there's not really any reason. Medic can't support arbitrate constraints that are specified in other ways. And so if you had to hide antic constraints that you custom coded like it would not be hard to adapt prosser to understand that as an in varying extent of that type. Because we aren't you do that you can do that. With at least two out of the three contracts syntax is doing a bit more into that. When i was looking at the documentation i saw that there are these different levels. Are ways that you can specify the contract going from simple assert statements so just feels very natural and runs the risk of possibly being optimized out. If you use the dash flag when you're compiling your on byte code and then through to the three one six format where it's embedded in the dock. Straying or using a decorator approach where you say. This is the contract being applied to this function. And i'm wondering if maybe you can talk through some of the trade offs of those different approaches and the relative strengths that they have historically contract implementations have been a runtime thing though the system that we integrate the decorator based system for instance called. I contract is a system that normally is intended to just run at run time and it does also have that risk of being optimized apathetic flats. Crossers doing a different thing. It really is not intending to do anything at the time. Your code is actually running in production is meant to just be run as a developer. Almost as a static analysis tool to crosshairs really meant to be used as a static analysis. Sometimes we a lot of those if you are using cross exclusively serve. Don't want your stuff to tend to make it to production. Search statements are a really nice way to get started because everyone knows the servants. And there's no one's gonna look at you funny having. It does make some assumptions about how they work in that like. Your function is expected to lead with a cert. Statements in those are intended to be preconditions. And if you had some leading thirds than you're sort of implying to cross hair that you know this function isn't gonna throw an exception or hit a later. Assert that turns fossil basically long as you get past the leading hurts. Serve like implying here that this is a function to run for all inputs. Because you've already done all the checking you expect to. The other contract implementations Decorator based ones are a little bit more fearful of the asserts ones we think of as sort of a gateway drug to contracts and at some point. You may get to a place where you're like. Oh i had this class and and i needed variance. I wanna make sure. Every method of this class maintains the vary not sort of like a little bit annoying to do with the asserts. As you find yourself meeting a little bit more power you might wanna serve upgrade to more feature contractors mutation and your point about using it as a static analysis tool more than a runtime validated. Something else i wanted to understand as is this something that you expect to validate the inputs to these functions at execution time or is it more adjust a development tool that hooks in with your other lenders in your test executions to make sure that the code is ready for production and then once it goes into production crosshairs handoff. Yes that's absolutely the case very much. Want cross hair to running in production. We do lots of weird things to see. Interpreter can make all the symbolic analysis work. Actually monkey patch larks loss of the standard library and do all sorts of things that are seen on specific and not something you would want to run in production on so when you run cross hair check on your code. That is its own process injured states on process. And hopefully tell you useful things about your code but only the intended use case for crosser and when i was going through looking at the documentation. It's always fun when you see a warning that says be very careful using h you told. Ram tree because you will destroy your system about this actually pretty good at getting coverage over ear code and so it will be more sneaky than you might imagine in terms of finding interesting inputs functions and it doesn't know which interesting input they're battling with from the grid actually more recently i have been working on an integration with yvonne. Three eight has some auditing capabilities. Which basically allow you to block a lot of these side effects. You can't do it in a way. That's like perfect. Sandbox saying is expected to cover a lot of the common cases and hopefully make a little bit more in terms of using these contracts as part of your development process. I'm curious how you've seen that influence. The overall design approach of the software system that you're building and some of the ways that it influences the way that you think about a particular problem space there are alive opinionated people about this the original contracts idea. I believe him out of programmers Fall and in texas often referred to design by contract like it comes with a design philosophy. There's no reason that you need to have a design philosophy around it so if you just want to verify some thursday events just you know just back by you can adopt some design philosophy rounded. I mean the original incarnation. The idea is like you actually write your contracts with you. Write your function something. This is not different than test Like regular tests. I never lamented function. The differences of course that the contract sort of like specified almost instantly many test cases. That's the thing. I will also say though that like one of the things that i personally find very different i think about interfaces a lot more so one of the interesting things about interfaces that typically we think of them as i take things of types and return other things types but when you think about them with a contract and then think about flying that contract across all of the implementation of that interface you get this really powerful kind of like multiplication of the value of your contract because basically like once you specify contract on the interface every class that implements the interface needs to also have these kind of behavior operatives said specified. And you've only had us five months and it's sort of magical for me personally doesn't get a lot more okay. What are the core interfaces. My system in in what are the properties that go beyond just weather the types that the methods expect interface driven design. Something that is an interesting thing in the python space because one side. It's very dynamic and flexible and you can do all kinds of duct taping then on the other side. You have a lot of the sort of scale ability issues that come with that. And there are libraries such as dot interface to be able to bring in some of the same ideas as job interfaces to say that this class and these functions have these interface types and then you can create a concrete implementation of it and so it's a useful design tool but it's also something that's somewhat fraught within the python community because of the tendency to want to be very dynamic. I think the right way to think about a process contract interfaces that you're applying tests to your class. It's a it's a. It's an easy way of tessier class absolutely and that also leads me to wonder how you see the trade-offs and sort of the level of effort that cross air saves you in writing the tests that you're creating for your software and sort of some of the types of tests that you might not bother writing because they're covered by cross hair or you know some of the types of tests that you will focus on writing because crosser doesn't cover editor because it frees you from writing some of these more baseline tests. You know. This is where there's a lot of great literature on property based testing a lot of similar challenges in the advantages. so sometimes there aren't good universal properties site. You can write like that seem obvious. And so having a couple of unit tests after really helps where you're just saying like. Here's some complicated computation between two into jurors. The only way to describe the baby driven thing is actually to just implement a function and so there may not obvious thing to right there and so that's where unit tested is perfectly reasonable but there are some tactics for writing contracts antibody based test that. Don't come to developers. Naturally you have to develop a little bit of a sculptured in example here is you're always looking for. Can i compare the behavior of debater. This function baby. Some other function that i know is correct. So he ever like reimplementing. Something copy contract tests are exactly what i so perfect. Because you haven't oracle you have this thing you know the after replicate that behavior. There are other strategies to think about one is called metamorphosis testing where you basically say if my input changes in this way i expect output to change directionally and in another way an example of a function in that averages. A bunch of numbers and i add the number. That's bigger than the result expected new result to be bigger than it was previously. That's another way. Balakot property tests could be writing a good example of this is just like i need to function that takes a grain test. Score produces a great letter so gives the test if it's ninety five in writing the unit test for that is sort of annoying. It's like okay. Well so if it's glow sixty s and maybe he'll do check for every letter and if you really diligent we'll check some boundary cases mayo right to test for whether it's out of the range of valid values at all in a contract mode can really get away with very little. You can say like ok if it's below sixty bennett's s and eventually all those cases drag don't have to worry about whether you didn't get the bad number that didn't give you and then you can test like oh actually like this metamorphosis style like if i add ten points to any letter i get the next letter and actually those two contracts are enough to fully specify the function man assuming appreciation that anders like says the input numbers in the spring. So you're uranium fewer tests and getting basically like this kind of perfect coverage of the Power of of property based testing in contracts. And that plays into the that you should make invalid states unrepresentative within the program and i know that some people will talk about using things like higher order types for being able to handle some of those types of situations and this is where cross hair as you admit in the tagline starts to bleed into the idea of type systems. And i'm wondering if you can just talk through some of the capabilities that cross hair adopts from those types of approaches or from the ideas of higher order types. Yeah absolutely so. It's really interesting to me. How much of computer science. The field is hurt obsessed with types. I think it's important to remember. That types are really just another way to help us. Make sure code does what we expected to so in some sense. Tests aren't really different. They all have the same objective. One thing. that historically academia has this assumptions that things should be decided what your type checker should be able to tell you. Yes or no that assumption has has led us into this world like okay. We can make our tax system more expressive but we also have to put these boundaries around these boundaries often mean that the type systems themselves are are understand so we have this thing of like. Okay get more expressively but we actually make the system fairly complicated and not very user friendly and instead of having that by cowdery you can ditch st liked Decide ability part like okay. Maybe sometimes it can't tell you and then you get something like her which is like elliott. Yeah it's easy to understand very expressive. Sometimes i can't tell you the answer. So this is a big part. Apply excited about author because alive. These dependent types still aren't making their way into to mainstream programming. It's sad because very expressive. I mean so very interesting ways that we can get that versity retained the kind ease of use digging a bit more into crosser. Now can you talk through implemented and some of the ways that the overall goals or design of the project has evolved since he first began working on. It initially was sort of interested in fuzz testing. And so i was trying to figure out to do these contracts or property based tests based on some of the modern sensors which are a whole. 'nother talk if you can get into those and then i. I saw some liberty hassles up in this volatile Like okay maybe. They're some combination of these things that would be effective so offer you a lot of missteps by to talk a little bit outwear. We are right now. Basically what processor does is when you're function takes an jerk. We could see. Not an integer gives you a python object that implements all of the integer like. There's a inside of it. It doesn't actually have value yet instead. What it does is records. What sorts of things are done to it and what things are asked And records those in a way that we can feed into the tesol foreign. It's sort of remember those same and then when we get to where we need to make a decision we need to take out. We have an if statement. Basically we just decide and reserve designed randomly. What wait ago but we recorded in the sauber that we took that breath. Because now that we've made this decision will never make another decision. Contradicts to sort of remain consistent with ourselves. Even though the we haven't actually picked values and so the objective here is just explore different execution paths through your and really. We're just looking for some goals in so our contract limitation with this means is. We're trying to get past the preconditions and then we want to try to get to a place where the post condition returns false. We get there then. We can ask the software for country values actual inputs that correspond to this execution hat and then we can report a counter example to these. There are a lot of de height mega work. But that's basically in sometimes referred to these values as their quantum python by these their values. That don't know what value they hold yet until you observed properties without them. It's definitely an interesting way to look at it and the sort of symbolic approaches interesting and analogous to people who may have played with things like sim pie for symbolic mathematics and sort of the algebraic capabilities of just having some unknown value. That you work through to figure out at the end what the concrete implementation is interesting. How you're able to wrap please based type instances with the behavior of those types without actually assigning them a specific value until you absolutely have to gap -solutely in terms of the other projects that you've looked at for inspiration or guidance. I'm curious what you have been able to pull from them. And some of the examples that you've used either inside or outside of the python ecosystem. Are you mentioned liquid haskell already but i'm wondering if there's anything else i also hinted at a lot of allen with fuzz testing lately. Fussing really interesting because it's become more intelligent than just sort of throwing random beta things. There's a lot of work into guidance for the testing which is sort of understanding what execution paths your coast taking as you give it Example example zeppelin butts and then. You sort of like tally. If i can get to this new space then i'll work on different inputs. Looked like that input. And see if i can get to some place that have been before and this is rising effective and also was. I think pretty influential me. The other thing. That really influenced the current. I this is. There's a book called the fussing book which goes through a lot of details around the funding as i talked about but also fussing with symbolic components to it. There's a term that is very similar to what crossroads called Execution where you are running is sort of combination of concrete and symbolic run some aspects of your program in concrete means and summit in smaller. So this idea of systems are hybrid and especially systems that can scale between the two depending on a problem. And you're trying to do. I think is really compelling and in some ways is the future of how computers help developers on the point of contracts. I know that there are some other libraries in the python ecosystem that provide a way to be able to design and enforce these contracts. And i'm wondering if you can give a bit of a comparison to the approach that crosshairs taken and some of the trade offs that are present in the choice of the different libraries. And what makes crosshairs standout from some of the other options in the ecosystem. Is that almost all the other contract libraries you find out there will be intended for enforcement. Run pressure is very much. Leslie not can see some extent. I don't see cross sarazen alternative to a contract you know. It's a couple of sin taxes and it's actually not too hard to write it for more. There are few other contract libraries. And i'm hoping that maybe someday prosser will be able to statically. Check all right. It's just another tool to help you. Sort of verify. Copies of their programs. One way program is a contract. So that sort of the way i see it. S definitely always good when you can sit sort of above a class of tool and integrate across all of them rather than having to put somebody into a choice between one or the other yes and so for somebody who wants to get started with using cross hair and implementing contracts in their code and being able to validate statically. The head of deploy. Time that they're code is validating the expectations and the in variants that they've defined. What does the process of getting started with cross hair. And how does it integrate into the overall workflow of writing a program. So i definitely recommend if you're starting out to start out in the assert based mobile talk about few different modes and so the way do this. Is you just set up some assert statements at the top of your functions. These represent the preconditions whether it's actually true and if you do this Assume that the rest of your function should execute brackley raise exceptions and should not future asserts. Events shouldn't be able to return false. And so this is a fairly lightweight. Way to do things because you can just install You don't need to import anything to your code. You just had some way actually learn. Prosser is actually a couple of different ways there is in the integration for mets. Were working on one for vs code. Hope to obviously add more than these up. Very lightweight. checking of Events there is another moon of running inch where you run across their watch and you can give it. You know your whole directory tree in look for things that match the pattern of things is looking for and it will sit there and chew on it sort indefinitely and so is much more like a feather will be more effective but sit there and consume a lot of resources by your stuff for a certain arbitrarily. Long amount of time was do in terms of some of the other capabilities. I noticed that in one of your recent releases you added a diff- behavior capability for being able to validate the functional equivalency of different implementations of a given method. I'm wondering if you can just talk through. What was your motivation for. Adding that capability and some of the use cases that enables beyond just the creation invalidation of these contracts. The weird thing about crawford. It isn't necessarily specific contracted at some level. The engine is just a thing that is like what inputs can provide to this python code and get to the gulf state the surprising number problems that you can like compacted at description and so i started thinking about like okay in my day to day job like what sorts of do i need help with so some of these things are just very simplistic things like okay. I did some refactoring. How do i know that. I didn't accidentally change the baby of the program. Defames command is basically just a new version of this where it's like okay. Run the old version around the new version and assert that they are the same because you provided the same symbolic inputs. And then you can. You can make a fine countries candidate say here. I gave you these numbers to function in a different result. This is pretty handy and actually get worked three command that allows you to serve materialize old version of your code and so you can do some tricks in this debate. You're working on your own changes. Which i find the most used Also use it. If you're making a small change to one pieces of them you wanna make sure the other main flow of your program working. The same answer can run this behavior on that. Even though you've made this other change that you hope to be unrelated and then you use when you want the behavior to be different but you need help finding test cases that you should be adding so because this thing can tell you here are the inputs that give different. Your those inputs can be useful to help you. Just add unit tests. There have been a few other tools that have seen along the lines of like the gab scientists project and there's a python equivalent whose name is escaping me for being able to say. I'm changing the implementation of this code. But the actual logic and behavior should remain the same in being able to run them side by side to make sure that have the same outputs or that you're comfortable with switching to the new version before you delete all the old code and so this is an interesting alternative way to go about it as intrigued. When i saw that in the release notes you know in some sense. There's an analog here between the scientist is. I believe doing this sort of run time of year. It's meant to do like a watch. And then you can run them. Both and tax introduction as he is very similar to how contracts sort of have historically worked in and process. You know like that same capabilities trying to bring closer to developer and more like a stat analysis tool in terms of the actual development of cross hair. How much do you dog. Food it on itself as you're writing the code that enables you to validate these variants or validate the functional equivalent. See a functions idea my head that we would use cross hair to verify itself in the beginning. I was frightened to do this. Because when you have a bug it's hard to know whether a bug in the original system where the system that's checking itself but more recently we actually had started to the tests where we are we are just using crosshairs to parts of itself. If i mentioned that we like monkey patch large swaths of the library. We do actually run cross hair on some of those patches to ensure that they had the same behavior as the native seat python versions in terms of the usage of cross hair. What are some of the most interesting or innovative or ways that you've seen it used or that you've used it yourself. One sample excited about is is using this for tainted analysis where you want to understand whether some input to a piece of logic isn't actually read by that logic the strategy here is you say like oh if i provide a symbolic input for the value that i don't want read and the different symbolic value on the second iteration. It doesn't matter that those things are different. The end result should be the same. If you can come up with a way to kind of make those two inputs different and get a different result than you know. The logic did something to which i thought was really fascinating in your experience of building. The cross air library and evolving it and bringing in new capabilities. What are some of the most interesting unexpected or challenging lessons that you've learned in the process using tesol which is the proof of that underlies processes tricky challenging basically the language that these chills us. Coalescence is very expressive. You can say lots of things but it doesn't mean that this hour will do reasonable with them. And there's very little intuition like humanistic intuition about what are easy. Our problems and that does not map well to what the solver actually treat disease and heart problems so actually like learning how to use us from g. Solvers effectively in practice has been a larch aspect of the learnings me this project. Some examples of this are like avoid. Quantifiable is in your logical expressions. Other things are like when you bridge different theories like if you want to get from integer to floating points and back incredibly art for in a peace offer to do so. You often need like some other tactics. When you're you're doing that sort of thing. I completely unrelated. Learning part of this project for me has been around just community development. One thing i tell people now a lot is like don't be afraid to email people. There are people out there who sort of care about the thing you care about and care about things that are related and i think a lot of us are. We live in the social media world. We're like oh we have to care about like lights and things on like big big broadcast to lots and lots of people should like eventually find it like really more valuable to like just trying to develop one on one connections and find those places where people are really passionate about finger passionate about and so much traction from just sending abbott blue email to summer just really interesting. I can definitely relate to that both from running the podcast and being able to email people to say. Hey this project that you're working on is really cool. Let's chat about it. But also as an outgrowth of that but also just in personal life of i've got this problem and i see somebody has either similar problem or somebody has built a library that i'm trying to us understand more thoroughly. Sometimes it's easier rd rather than trying to break through the noise in their community slack. Channel to send a well-thought-out to say this is the problem these are the specifics of it. Here's what i'm trying to do and give them an easy way to provide an answer without forcing them to do a lot of were so at the same kinds of behaviors that go into filing a well-crafted bug report. You know being able to say an email you know either. I'm having this problem with the project. Or i have this idea of how i might use it and hear some of the other things in the toolchain that i'm trying to integrate it with. What are your thoughts on the viability of that. Yes yes definitely wanna make it easier for the person and experience has been if you are making it easy for person your time to talk to. People have been so willing to chat serve amazing absolutely particularly people who work in open sources. They're doing it because they enjoy it and because they want to help people and so giving them an opportunity to help you and making it easy for them to do so there a high probability that they will actually follow through on it and so for people who are considering using cross hair and they want to be able to provide these in variance to their programs and try to identify potential problems in their logic. The cases across eras the wrong choice. I ll sort of mentioned that isn't experimental tool definitely has bots you. You may find boats. Let get through some basic constraints though. I don three seven and up. Cpi on league we actually hook into some internal stuff there. Another thing we mentioned is it is not meant for over the side effects so do not wait contracts around code that will write to the disc for make calls of things that once you get past those physical like very graceful restrictions there will be cases where it will perform better or worse typically will find that crosshairs best suited for checking smallish hunts of code it can check larger runs. You can run up for a longer period of time. Basically you will start to lose effectiveness as you scale up when we get around. This is that if you build contracts for at the base level and at all levels of the thing all of the call stacks connection make use of some of the subcontracts build up enough contracts you can actually overcome some of those challenges are regardless as scale may find that a probabilistic approach is a better one and features. That are coming engine working on collaborating with People end in the ideal world. This could all be transparent in terms of whether you're getting probabilistic testing are symbolic or combination of the two. Which is a very exciting avenue future today. When you run prosser you're mostly going to get the aspects of the small at one thing that symbolic are executing are really good at is getting past days. That are tricky for randomized to purchase. Get through so like if you need to check that the response that the person typed in in their input field was yes. The stimulus section. Very hard to randomly generate the string. Yes but several get through that kind of condition very quickly so it is a little bit hard together for what approaches will be really good. Which aren't so if you do want to adopt prosser treated as you're also contributing to the community in terms of coming up with test cases that may work and maybe you won't work but i can credibly grateful for china and as you continue to build cross hair and use it on your own work. What are some of the additional features or capabilities or improvements that you have planned for the future of the project that we haven't already discussed there's infinite amount of work in terms of handling more cases symbolically so basically a lot of cross era is about kind of like making sure that we can keep things symbolic as long as possible as soon as you get concrete than it gets hard to get past those conditions. So for instance there's a number of functions that you can collins strings right now which could be implemented symbolically in the solid by art. I think a lot of the work is just in continuing to lament more and more those basically see functions in the cellar though basically you know. There is an arc around just improving the effectiveness of the system terms of how long we can keep value symbolic the other are. I guess i did not appear as though is just doing more scaling between concrete boggy solution and definitely ideally interactions. We want distinct to be easy for people to us and so we want to meet the developer where they are. I have to tell you using cross hair on e. Max you do get to this point where it's almost like you're pair programming with someone right. So what does this function due. I say like oh it. Does this type in my contract and i work on it for a little while and then the idea to show what about this case. Did you know that's the future that are did want to say thank you for having e max be the first implementation that you have support for because as a fellow imax user. I appreciate that very good. Yes well for anybody who wants to get in touch with you and follow along with the work that you're doing. I'll have you add your preferred contact information to the show notes and without l. Move into the picks and this week. I'm going to choose a movie. That i watched over the weekend with the family called the war with grandpa. And it's just a hilarious movie. Great fun for the whole family. Just watch it and have a good laugh. I'll just leave it at that. And so with that to you philip. Do you have any picks this week is him acc chairs and recently put in a hammock chair into are. You only need to attach it to one point in the ceiling. You have good roster until he just like everything. I do in the hammock. Chair is like twenty percent better to read a book. You can ask coach everything in the hammer tears better. It's it's a very specific quantity all right. Well thank you very much for taking the time today to join me and share the work that you've been doing on cross air very interesting tool and one that i look forward to experimenting with on my own code so appreciate all the time and energy you put into that and i hope you have a good rest of your day. Thank you so much. Thank you for listening. Don't forget to check out our other shows. The data engineering podcasts. 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Hotel Nerd Podcast w/ Galleghost
"Welcome everyone to the hotel. Nerd network brought to you by anchor was anchor. You say is an easy way to make a podcast like this one for free. That's right. I said it for free and only that you can record from the comfort of your home on the pc or on the go with your phone. They have everything you need to make a podcast in one place. The best feature is that the even distribute podcasts for you on multiple platforms so you don't have to stress on getting your content out there for the world here. Thank you for a free and easy. Way to make a podcast. Download the anchor app on your mobile device or go to anchor dot. Fm to get started. Please sit back and enjoy the show. Right surfer now inch full had time to deal with no work schedule. But it is what it is back to work in these flown-in so get really claimed but with said. I'm chris austin in this hotel nerd. And i'm joined today by gala ghost a movie trivia slowdown pro- Going to be asking a lot of questions slowdown today. So if anybody is in in wants to chat with us out of you want to send a question. Some sunday nations in stream labs. I have the link person above my head so that let's get started and I i have for you is added you get involved in industry like what. What was the bug that trigger. You'd wanna get into these with the industry you mean with the schmo. Don a film industry slugging okay. Yeah yeah probably. the biggest. the big bombeck high in terms of the industry was i remember. I was bad Letting us hold. And i watched terminator two for the for shanley six or seven years. Since i was a kid says i was way way way way saw then. I literally spin. Like i wanna do that. Why do that. When i'm older and luckily that box at me that blu ray box. I actually had like all these special features. That s who was almost a film school primer before going to film school so that was definitely a big inspiration for me and just going forward with every single new movie. That would come out. It was basically just like a film school the box type of thing. So yeah. that's probably. That was probably a bug that had a going into the industry f. I was wanted do that all over again and just wanted to create something like that and yet and then i went to school in chicago and earned of air. We're on a open. Probably one of the biggest things will to was working on my first set over in chicago as well. And that's that's kind of. When i'd solidified myself moses like yep yep i definitely want be industry so did you have. Did you live in chicago for the gesture of films for or did you stay a little longer. No i definitely stayed a little longer chicago. I live there from two thousand six all the way up until two thousand and Fourteen so that's about a good eight years or so. That was down there. I'd i four years. I was there definitely going to school and stuff live apps commuting back for between Chicago in these coast over in connecticut. Where where i'm originally from and then afterwards I was starting out more sets. And i'm starting to get on more projects and stuff like that so like yeah it was. It was about eight years or so in good. Six of those was alive. Set work and stuff like that would be stuff order interesting. Big of stuff as well to did you. Do any of the chicago shows at all like fire. Pd med avails the other one. Actually i worked on Sirens it was ghastly show that they were producing it a remake of the uk show. That was the that was hardly one of the bigger out. Once i work to but also the does well even though i had no. I never seen this glimpse of show for our on it. A shameless was another one. I worked on it. Became this giant huge saying cromwell's of living under a rock that point and your semen show you so he that My first day working seven pm at We see photos with hvac all over the place and one of my buddies were on the show as well as like. I'll has created show loonies visas rain and then so knowing what i know from william h macy before that show you know. He plays like global off on cool type character where he's lovable dust right. He probably plays a data on the show. My buddies he does. I'm like go. Yeah he's probably he's probably a lot hashtag father goals and then he just looked at egos. You've not seen since the show have. I'm like nope and then it's right. Afterwards the orders plays. We watched the first season. I was like oh my god zoo. I'm working on You know Beginning but apart from that. I work on a couple of shows there in in chicago. Probably the biggest one that i work done all right. You got a great story. Sure gilbert or a so the probably the one of the first sets that were on. This well was back in twenty two thousand seven and i had really bad insomnia at that point up being a college student in also my first year away from being hallman not being with my my my my friends now just to start off by herself sensually so was around like twelve the morning or so. I decided to just walk out my door. A walk over to a door. Tories were in downtown chicago by the way too so i just decided. Oh you know what. I'm just going to go over to seven eleven and get a quick drink and so i walk over at. I walk over eleven and then as long coming out. I run into one of my buddies. Who's Who i had a development pre production class with and he's standing outside the building just looking depressed and looking just angry and stuff like that and so i recognize nine mealy white up there and i was like hey man go have to morgan on a set right now like honestly been here for like over for sony hours. I'm just ready to go home. I'm so tired and leading. Like i could see the exhaust on his face like a shit. Well I'm not doing anything right now. i can't sleep. There's possible way. I could switch places with the totally would and then he looks at me. His eyes go wide. He's like way you actually would do that. Mike yeah and so he so he pulls up his radio radios production coordinator in the Coordinator shows up in me. A couple of questions. Basically like you know experiencing had concept stuff which had none so. I still have no idea how i got set. And they give me this paperwork and the paperwork is massive. Nda they're basically says whatever you whatever you see on the set you talk about you will not talk about the rest of your life in europe streaming but but it's been a couple of years now thinking point but so they give me a giant at ea and then I see what the title is in. Its worries i kiss okay says anything. That's why whatever they're probably treated as secret Polly some big talent over there and my buddy goes home and the project warriors walked me around the sets and i keep seeing that worries. I kiss everywhere. I don't know what the hell it is. And then the Nears his mere front of this tent and then he basically says are your job. Today is basically just the guarding the stats. Basically making sure that nobody shows up in front of this place. Nobody nobody none like no industry in sergei. Be around this area whatsoever. You basically have to man spot as a like okay fine. Whatever he's like first off do not go into the tests. Okay right. I totally fine until we find so. I'm about an hour and a half into basically starting my first day off the set and still putting it together and about an hour and a half later giant guy in a black suit with pointy ears pops up either ten and i realize it's the dark night. Are you know dead serious. Oh it's it's the dark knight that would literally my reaction. I just had there would be like. Oh yeah now and then and then right then there it. It's snapping the all of this is why and the as is why they had people guarding the set in this why they had all the stuff all over the place and the scene of the shooting that night with the With the the parking garage that opens the home because the original was the original batting so a yeah yeah was originally dogra. Whatever exactly at that one. And because we're right next to a parking structure the entire time and i was just like okay. Well it has par for the course because like you know in all these sets over kaga you oh it's probably another film school of all these small independent projects and stuff like that and by this point the The the film production per shown in chicago. Just booting up as well to like. This is like dark missing. Kick the doors wide open like there was some ajat here but afterwards late we got like our gone after dark nile. Todd wanted at work on transformers which was oh my god. That was hellscape working on that project. Hellscape watching it to be honest goodness. But but you know. But i'll only sets you meet a lot of people and you see the same people over and over again used circa melville repertoire. And that's how. I got to sirens and shameless at that point as well twos is because people just kept saying over and over again may go and you know when you pull up a recipe. I'll go back and and will russa. This guy must have been through shit so he probably does ways now. Was it bail in the suit. Can you answer that without yet and get yourself into trouble. It's fine. I was murdered. A bail is actually physically in the suit or if there was a body double that was doing all of the stuff. Forum there was a there was a vital that That would be on sat. That would basically do the sense in all that other stuff swell well to just whatever he couldn't do There were two people. There was there was two people wearing the suit at once. But for the tent that i was assigned to guard there I think that was a me from what i gather. I think that was pales. But it's because you know the the And all that other stuff like having a couple sites they don't tell you to avoid somewhere unless there's talent there so that's probably the baby but from what i was told later on. Is that apparently. After i worked on batman for like maybe about a excuse about three weeks a month or so before i had to shift occur at home than go back to the east coast in my god. Probably one of the biggest disappointments Probably one of the biggest for my life was just They had offered me. Because i was working. Great with crew is that night was a night alan. I basically just operate onto our sleep. I was just like british going in the next day and also the stuff. I got a call from my production coordinator in basically said. Hey jimmy up for nakedness. This may not necessarily removing. But would you be honest day for the rest of the shoe. And by that point i was still going back and forth between chicago in east coast and the problem was that i wasn't established enough out there in chicago where i had a buddy stay wet. That was making that much to get my own apartment and stuff like that. So i i basically just had to. You know just a man still estate-linked when i think about it. I had a. I had to pass on the opportunity and stuff like that and then a couple of my friends that were on the set were all taught. Were texted me when i was working on my shade movie. The're job back over his east coast and they were text me just like oh my god. We just saw luxury in the costumes. Oh we were talking about the somewhere. Apparently got trouble because pop. Rock snagged a couple of photos ledger in makeup. I remember that number one that leaked your leaked in. The couple of photos came on escape or early. Go up in dallas sal. That was that was in part because of my friends because they were missing shooting the Shooting the tumbler chase sequence com shooting the sequence in the problem was that you know whenever you go down the sets and stuff like that whenever you do like any of these high speed chases like just imagine for every single shot near as moment where about a half a mile away with carson Half mile down this where you basically stop the shop and if you can imagine. Pa's running up and down the street and stuff like that and then some of my friends who decided. Just take some skateboards with them. Just to kind of make it easier. and then Apparently ledger saw that. They all had skateboards obviously decided to start chatting with them. Start writing on the board and those were shot Rasi was on the skateboard. His people are just going. Wait a minute the jokers escape would be. He's not he's not in the coat. Was that me like oh my god. Just the scrutiny that people had to go through in orbit do these movies Nerds like me. That's pull things like that. And then and then sometimes just like actually just a lot more simple that is not nearly is not nearly as complex as people make it out to be at certain points. Mostly this on. I find that to be the case. That generally tends to be where it's just because there isn't a story behind me there is but it's normally somebody has skateboard the accurate keyboard Fuck it anymore. Yeah exactly yeah the movie. Oh yeah i have nothing to do with the movie and it's just you know. Sometimes it's certain things happen and then you end up all over the place but comes with the territory with certain things like back but yano but apartment he liked just. The whole experience was great. Learning spirits overall. I mean even for even for the week the three thousand there like it was it was still like for someone still going through film school at the same time as well in seeing what the process was and seeing how crews nobis thing you had a a in in school Interject face yet. What will that without the thing. That was the thing that i now. There was the nelson health now. Later on was the i spoke about this to by my counselor at the at the college. Use like wait. You're we were. You're a we're not setting i'm late Yet usually okay. We're going to give you the list of lately. Like us just like like hugely he apart on me like this this This gray word of advice officials like get on as many sets as you can. Just just whatever comes along if you had time take it. Because here's things that i'll i. People like known even actors needed some eunson creatives and stuff like that lake. The one thing p. sometimes people just go into a dangerous going like well. How can this help you out later on. And sometimes you just have to use come in. I mean sometimes you just have to be nice and just dedication your time and just try to help out your filmmakers Sometimes as often sometimes it doesn't mean in my case. I mean i was just i was just buddies with with a guy oriented Wretched class and i just ran into him. And i just went over sale item and chat with them and stuff like that ended up getting beyond dark. Meat and dark may ended up just People on a crews working on reshoots for wanted in just working all transformers later on down the line like it's you don't know exactly how the pieces are gonna fall in play. You just have to know that wherever wherever the piece have be ready for whatever comes and sometimes there's going to be really big stuff that lease on layer down the line to be stuff that doesn't pay off but it only takes it only takes one thing going only that one connection for just everything. The fall play i can. I can attest to that. Because i'm basically doing it right now. I reached out the one day that rocca had to step out and narcotic came on as the online and you as the first one i put the thing out and he reached out and he goes. Hey i'm free. So we got our chronic on that bright resells said. Hey can we were out. So we work something out. He gets l. kincaid beyond a body. Spo bread would reach out to me today as a. Hey what are you when you have an open slot. It'd be like we can figure something out. Even if i'm working late today i work this morning. I will pull basically a double to make it work to get you guys back on because i love love brenton key on our episode that we have with them that was great orient holyhead. And if i if i can just put this out Just even stephen. Friedman brief moment as well to me like near chronic gets nearly enough credit as does just skirt area. I know that even as a rookie fan. He doesn't get enough credit for what he does. This call any late late. He he's gonna wind credit for for for the editing and for basically being cooled is well to absolutely rightfully should. But it's it's it's still still feels like still feels like people just need like like i have so many things thank for for eric. Any particular narcotic and a like he's has weather nice people. I've ever met might heartwise late so i guess i got that vibe. When we talk to him like he they need me a great burson just as roman share meal west and shit big some marine about some about stuff i get that off of that. Just talked to him for the hour and a half or whatever it was absolutely it was called lake like i heard the story on. Sem not too long ago where owns this game was at night roxy where gt was talking about. Holly no gave by the screenings. He always had his. You always have a plus wine and stuff like that and then He would always go to. Here's girlfriend debuted Screenings with and then. And then i started thinking about. Oh yeah when. I first moved to. La like the eric was always plus. What some of these. Because we to some of these screenings together like eddie. Wanna go. Check out the screen right after work and stuff like that and it was just funny. Because i remember one day particularly. That's also the thing too. Is that whenever whenever you bring your net whenever you harper's may people as you can. Eventually you know far twenty people been rightfully should in one latest relate probably probably the biggest joke between Some of my buddies right now is that they're just like while arteries like every ten seconds was just like well. My buddy in the industry is talking about this. Restocking about harry's this and then it's just like well you everybody that works at worthies right. Yeah i do. What's over a loss. Right and i'm like yeah i do this just because when you're invincible when you when you talk to many people as you can and you try to be as you can be two people as while to you know it's it's it's it's just a bigger broadening net and then the thing was that it was so funny you went. Eric went to a screening of something over on the fox lot and it was so funny because like literally were standing in line as we're standing in line an old friend of mine sees me in the middle of the line of who's running the screenings that Whole friend of mine sees me early. Comes and goes entrees. Like oh yeah. This is my friend eric. Also this stuff and then he takes off. And the eric looks migas. Wow you really do know people. And i'm like People i met in school in that. We've all kept in touch. No that's that's the key thing about this industry. don't be an asshole. Ad said the game exact hue. I openly asked on twitter. I asked christian about us. The logo whatnot for doing thumbnail. I didn't wanna use any of his intellectual property at all without express permission and i even did a snow by to have him answer. Like i basically forced enhancer out. I didn't wanna use it without his permission. Because su i am it for the day Next day or two. Afterwards as well and i did do it for that. I did that. Because that's his property that's his baby. I'm not messing with it getting permission before i use. I ask you for permission to use your picture. Gay for I had john make thumbnail. And because if i have somebody on on. What are your permission for use lightness ugly mentioned before us your logo. I would expect anybody to do for me. It's common curbs. And i'm new to the game in. I've only been doing this of the year. So you said. Don't be an asshole. And i i definitely i mean. Can i be agile absolutely like to be an asshole at off. Yeah but it just at the end of the day. I'm trying to build a network. Is that basically what you're saying to network and eventually you'll know too many people. I'm on the ground level of building the network right now. Light both figuratively and literally. Yeah anybody is using for pr to do that. I'm not it's that's who i am. Yes and there's a fine line walk of that as well to you where it's just The you know wait. Wait wait wages. He said so. People think it's Self-promotion pr is also new. You want to report out that that that that someone's coming on board and someone of summertime to shut up in you know it's it's gratitude this while is that like absolutely so yet are so probably the biggest thing you could serve from from jesse my story of chicago's don't be an ass or Nice and albion's. If i would get somehow get where you are in august. Use this as segue to be on down her. She say i wanted to be a he'll that i don't know if i could pull off because generally an asshole i feel for the asshole. Ibm so yes. But i'll tell you right now probably gonna need puke afterwards because a See how much you can say but I mean with the russians. Have going on stuff like that. Just actually ethics I'm talking to one of the majors. Rick four route four got traffic and one of the questions that kept popping up was your cells. He'll or do you see yourself as a face and there was a question. I really had to think about because like at the end of the day a lot of people wanna be alive. People are more comfortable being the face. Were just trying to be the hero if that makes sense but when i think about stuff flake wrestling when i think about stuff like my favorite eras of certain wrestlers like some of the stuff from the air with with With an uncertain at the end of late. Three attitude era. Like you look at macho man stuff like us flat out he'll lately. Here's a bad guy. And that was when i thought he was at his peak and that was just him played over the top. You know and that's him where where they struggle between handing all. And i started thinking about you. Know what honestly like mainly We face but same time. There is a good lions. Be walked with when you go. He'll and it takes. It actually takes a certain amount of talent to be able to do heal properly as well tune. You're getting booze or vn people that hate you really fast. You're doing your job and you have as many people think is like it's like all you know if you're he'll nobody likes you and stuff like that but you know if you walk into a crowd of people people were doing you all at once. You have control that room now about you say about getting people to dislike you really fast whatnot. So your opinion again rookie. Fan here. so i've been hearing brandon had upstart person. Now he's basically doing whole. Burn it all down you. Would you say he's doing it right or do they use day a little bit too far. The reason i'm asking. Matt is i. Listen to spn afterlife last week and Jay said about a secretary who who said it j. He went he might end. He asked or it was your hand or his producer went and asked for him and beyond and they are really snide mark. Saying now and as i said doesn't mind that he said no it's the way he said no is lies in a paraphrasing here. I could be doing anything else better than this. Earth of long deadlines lay could've just said now amanda this that he took it to the next level and a character for seven or is that worries yelling like all out. I'm going to plead the fifth on that one. Fortunately had to plead the fifth up at one booth from but from everything. But all i will say is hannah right now. He's if he's going. He'll is doing everything i mean. He's he's doing everything. He's taken exactly the right steps. That's that's that's all. I will say if it's real or not real. I'm going to add to plead the fifth on that one. But i'm just going to say from what you're seeing right now. That's kind of. That's kind of where i'm at as well too. So it's me i. I like what he's doing again rookie. But in from all on cnn. From everything. i've been told to do to complete flip. I love that like it. W w what. The cnn like years ago made him go. I'm the guy i am champion like. Fuck you. I basically going to pleat renegade. Yeah i would love that. Because i love the the flip on the head now if you would ask me to do that. There's no way dallat pull off to act to heal. You tells faking. It i just. I can't do yet. And there's there's a certain thing to I mean no-one one no one ever flat out. Says they want he'll or something like that right off the bat. But it's also just kinda just trying to find a way to work that crowd. I mean like a pro probably probably stolen what am i. one of. My favorite bits is I was over. Its tackle was lacking spectacular back in december and the minute robert net shows up. That audience is boo him. Way just hard. And he's working that crabs. Y'all you call on. The grave is top of best in the took away at robert does in. Its when he turned heel last year. That was that that was like that. That everything he did was was pitch for on that front. Nord if you want to be. He'll heated everything. They succeeded everything. So right and it was kind of something that that it's cut something that's interesting to watch. Like you seen the robin on other stuff. Like on the other jesse guess on seems like a fairly reserved guy but when you when you put him in on john camp is show in easy is really level. Oh yeah i mean especially when when is going off on his rants about pants and stuff like that and then all of a sudden. There's there's rob like just be calm and collected and i remember one of the comments of is like russia getting award for be the most patient i love. The play in is when you look at that that guy. That's on that show. And you look at rob burnett on slowdown. There are two completely different. People there to hide scenario but the thing is it's also about working the crowd. It's also about working. What can your angle as well too. And you know if you know in just i mean for life at word. Probably one of the biggest lessons virak learn is well was just be authentic to yourself and just you know just just just do what comes naturally and there's really great video online were the rock was basically talking about how How when he first showed up on the scene. He was trying to be the face in the audience. Flat-out flat out was having it like he got a. He got booed winner. He would win a match like his gimmick was necessarily there he was always. He was always very thankful to be there. That not only made the audience hate him a little then. So vince mcmahon just caused them up and tells them well. When you come back the season we can do your one or two things. We can keep shutting you down people's or we can turn you here or we can turn you into a heel because people want to you anyway and that's me you was sore this like you know. Just that was big lesson troops leaning in and just seeing where where where things go naturally. I thought he was amazing as a heel because the based on trying to be face he guy even more me something even more like we were two admirable villain roth if that makes any sense mean just the fact that he just did not give a crap and he just he just denied give a crap and not give crappy fry if anybody liked him. He knew that he was the best one he knew. That was the most electrifying man in sports. Entertainment like yeah. It's now open. He had standing does like everywhere. Yeah exactly the same thing with kurt angle to you. People you suck every time he showed up to cm song and now now we all you suck as a term of a deer like he likes like like me like like we chant you suck because we love it like like i was over was over at a zoo. Grant was called no mercy not too long ago about two or three years ago over here in. La and the minute that angles face shows along on the titan tron. You know you just hear four thousand people in houston just you suck but you feel you feel in the air that lake we all love that we all just frigging mullahs love. You were saying something terrible something that caught on but the minute that he stopped trying to be the hero and he said alcohol. Y'all we love more. So yeah it's kinda like austin the whole what champ on my god. I pissed off school with that. Blake answer on the. I think anybody. That's in our generation. Did that at least once a teacher will be talking in a positive go why it was either between or what the hell is the one at the rock which. Oh does that matter like that. What that's like like bike probably turn into a game with being a couple but he's back in them back bill school where it was just like trying to get someone to explain something as log as they possibly could and then just like you like you hear them going on a little bit a little bit of tanja in start getting into say. It doesn't matter no sir. Anne many of the tensions in at us. Oh stretches were earned with those chance w tribute. all that stuff unevenly. Jesus christ look at that attitude or were going insane at that point. So it's like back around around. I would love to keep going down the rabbit hole. I know you're pressed for time. John unfortunately had to be with us today because he had other prior engagements. He had two questions that he wanted me to ask you. Okay and the first one as she. I guess both these questions. I don't know if you really can answer. Because you might show your hand a little bit. But i don't know how comfortable you are doing that by his first action is at you study for a game slowdown. Like what are your methods Lakeway just bounce off each other like as a faction the oldest sit in a room and just roundtable table. That will obviously can't do that right. Now we'll get to that right now. But all i will say is i mean. I don't wanna show my hand too much on this one as well too because the technicians nations are going on right now and you. You never know who could be watching super points in time. But i will say We've we've we've kept in contact and we shared some tips with one another and even even conch. Andrew had been very helpful on that front as well to in giving me a lot of great pieces of ice and stuff like that but as far as the act of way we That's something that i'm going to have to keep up. That's the one two three four fifth by he. He wanted to see what your answer that. Yeah i mean but but but the thing is that it's different between all competitors and it's it's it's different between all the competitors want and finding out now is that it's it's i mean. What would certain ways that people train in certain ways that people Prepare for these events that it's it's a real art it's it's actually just like a real actually just like a real It's real motive. Prep that you don't think about when and you're just doing it in. I mean not not not the disadvantage leaks at all. Because even even doing that you can do in that live in front of people are streaming. That's that's talent itself right there. But let's try and figure out how to do that. Live when the lights are on you and off nellis are just right there just just feeding you the the questions and stuff like that. It's it's a completely different thing. It's absolutely it's not necessarily stagefright. It's just it's just it's just circumstances this also just you know one of the other things that people don't take into account the fact that when you're there live you don't see like a little tighter guard on the very bottom that has lake something that you can read the question of. So you've you've gotta you've gotta be on top of your game when you're listening to the questions all to you can't miss here anything because she miss here something that's gonna be e also that's also going to disastrous for us while too so it's just a matter of prepping for just one alive is going to be like then just Just trying to stuff is you can because i remember one of the majors was I spoke to mind managers over adam spectacular right afterwards. he basically said that you know anybody can do trivia. anybody can have all these facts. But the real keith. The real key thing is is seeing if you can do it in front of an audience and see if he can do for the lights because even if you're very comfortable even if you're trained to do that even if you're an actor even cheer what's her online personality anything like that. It's different when you go from the lights. It's different one year. Lives from when they're calling out the questions and you know you want us to jt because you thought you'd miss heart-stopping and it's the thing run. I mean there's tons of things that go into practice but as far as the details about certain things. I will say. There's a method. It's it seems like it's working right. Now it's great and others as different between All the factions right now. I hope that made sense. Let's try and Again i know me i if islas Be really sketchy on this one. But this is the second question. Are there any categories that you feel like you need more practice. Ooh that's that's definitely a big big hassle on the one two three four fifth. That's that's definitely a big. I mean i mean you know my one of my favorite character. Superman quit on blast on a newspaper that his weakness was kryptonite. He would have avoided a lot of conflict if he wasn't so brutally honest with closely in the mesa. I mean but yeah. I mean i mean as far as far as weaknesses go. I can't die too much into that. But i will say just hang on film school and just going into not only just jars i do love. But even some of the genre's i wasn't necessarily the biggest span of when i originally went to school lake. Certain directors is thinkers. Like okay. no. They don't speak me at all. I don't like eighty per saying all. Just in indy school. Fair type of thing because their goals boy stuff when you when you go into a and then when you start getting that knowledgeable medicaid you start getting that knowledge of just what. They're trying to do and see exactly what they're trying to tell you. It's you get a better appreciation for them. And that's of the way. I feel with movies and jarl where it's like. You know there was maybe one johner that wasn't particularly to hannah and now it's one of my favorites. It's and it's also one that i feel Is doing some drills with a with withdrew in inner cronica not too long ago and it was a pure jar. That was like okay. Yeah no before for film school. I not typically a big fan of the genre. The now just like all i can do is talk about the shop. So yeah. that's a you say your your view on like watching film That you love before. would you say that it. Turn your mind around on how you felt about. Pre film slopes the now or notably for for for film. And i didn't like it sometimes. It may need likable more. Because you see what you see what they're trying to do. You see what you see where they failed and where fail is where you learn. Some things in lake like easily probably still stay. I watch just batmobiles in general because he was called I don't think it's a big excel on the secret that what shot was necessarily the best allow there but the thing is that you can't necessarily just even if something's bad candy surly node wit and just feel like oh well. It's terrible because this without even watch it you kind of have to find the work. Good movies are bad. you have to go in. We'll help mind. You just have to see where they where they fail and where they were they do. Right in. Ami has filmaker. That's something that you directly to keep. The back of your head is why certain things weren't wieser things. Don't but intern been terms of studying for Schmo down sometimes. The questions that will that will get. You is the stuff that you're just not at that you're not naturally inclined to go see tears like holy crap this movie with this actor. I saw the billboards for no idea what it is you know. It's you know you're kind of in a dead debt right there and also you know they do happen to release sections while too. So that's that's that's something where it's important that mean training for Down you have to watch everything you have to. You have to try to watch because you never know when you're gonna get that slice on the wheel that you're just like holy crap I got this and it's my second spin so i'm kind of screwed so it's all it was as just keep an open mind when he might probably my biggest lesson is keeping up your mind when you're keep an open mind when you're studying keeping in mind for just any johner that you might not be into because the other day is sunny session use crying but you know you pay off and i just went on a long tangent right there about in your question was what this is the feel i have and on. Just like yeah. I can't actually directly exactly what that is. But i will say is that every movie counts equally. That's my point of view on that. I need to get a shout here to massive all away from at a gas or shown support allow exhaust in announcing love. Oh man that's great long way a long way from here. That's for sure especially from from sorry. Is this a long way from east. Coast right yeah all right now on the my questions hero. Quick this might be a heavy fisted one for you but who would you wanna face the most industry down right now. The way the rosters are set way. They're ostrich are separate now. Who wanna face off the most right now. That's a great question. Actually i mean there's a couple people that surly likely i like. It's it's kind of. It's kind of a little bit of a little bit of a kind of a little bit of a pat question on that one. Because like when i think of competing with some of these people is not necessarily like a all manohla. Take down type of thing. It's kind of more like late. Just kinda just thinking off the top of my head. It's like oh man be fun to this. It'd be fun to do before i do this. Particular this particular person You know. I mean in some of the people that i would love to have competed with at some point times on the more retire You know i'm a big shire will spanned so bad. I mean i mean. Honestly they i mean clark saw Kind of went off. And do you know she. She moved on from ish out now. That's something that you know. i have to respect. That's something that you know. It pains me as fan that she can't that she's not competing like that anymore. And it's just yeah. I i i will love to compete with her at some point but in terms of who set up right now old. I'm actually going to plead the fifth on that one because there might be. It might might happen or might not happen. I'm sorry i feel like all the questions that you're asking On that why but but in terms of. It's so tough for me to talk about that. Because there's a whole genre that for every person that i want to compete against. It was like a shot. Her that wanna go into them like omen degrades do shadow egrets shuttle competitor venues even doing something like that is showing your cards and showing what you can and can't do and i still. I still haven't on my first match yet either. So they're still Expectation that's going into that in still level of Just trying not to set yourself failure. That makes any sense and then just trying to just just Just come off as big of a surprise you possibly can do. But i mean anybody in general i mean like you know very is i mean be. It'd be fun to compete with I mean it'd be fun to compete with With with them with bateman. it's points you know he's big action guy the be fun to go against Wall will this is before. I got drafted into dungeon. But i i always had. I always thought it'd be lot funded company and smith's at some point but you know he's he's a teammate. Now if i if like what's called like a teenager while too and like you know just being on the same team with a that sort between country for me as well Yeah and any guys been up to me. And especially with his trendy. He'll last year. We like that. That would have been great Great act as well too. I mean in what one of my friends too. I mean i love to be a safari. And that's i mean. Just just the fact that you know. He's he. I mean like yet. I mean the lewis call b. m. became favor. He started going going to play at that point in time as well to you like like the. I got drafted A photo and like put congratulate. I put like nine. Congratulations not my job to just sorry. Just sorta as like a big. Thank you to everybody that got you. That like nra. Chronic meteor truths. Pick our as well More bearings other podcasts. As well where he was where he was basically saying. Oh you know there's andres guy that at some point i think he'd be strong competitor and stuff like that now. Oh man i'm like oh people you shout out stuff. I just go ahead and bank beards. I comment was great cincinnati. You'll see a front row seat for when the stock comes up and beats everybody like oh man this right now. We're on this. And so in that sense i think you could find it to go up against barbarians. Well like there's so many there's so many people that have that let's compete against and it's one of those things where it's like. You know what nowadays it's it's more of a maybe as opposed to you know a patriot if that makes sense right To now we did talk a little bit about this before we went on. Live here And again a. I apologize anybody that losses d shows. Keep saying until i feel like not anymore but on a rookie fan and trying to figure things out. The scoring system still feels a little wonky to me of how they do for the actions. I don't know you might be able to explain that to me a little bit more. Because i know christian was talking about it here. This match the star wars matchy was explaining how the one team went from dead. Last the six in. Like there's like i guess. Ko you get more points than tika or tko two. He'll get the most points. I'm starting to get the basis of it. But i'm not quite there yet now Pretty much for the most part. That's exactly how it works. I mean like that it's It it just takes a little gain used in terms of in terms of with the scoring systems like honestly. That's that's kind of the way it is and i know as as a future competitor is wall to. There's certain things. I'm trying to figure out as well but it's it's all just in august in you know it's it's all just in just murphy yourself as much as you can try to understand as much you can from from the from from the said thing but for the most part For the most part. I think that's exactly how it works. You get certain points for doing certain things. I knew the trade offs. I know Trading in drafting also a place logo. Rolling that i believe. But i'm as as better. I'm also figuring that stuff out as well too. And i think probably one of the biggest things for me is at the end of the day. You have no control over over the point system. Orange what happens. You know the only thing you can do owning concern yourself with even for myself just going in and trying to play as good games possibly can because every measure i watched so far or listen to almost all back from the start and i've been watching all of season seven. Oh it feel if feels like every match. Everybody is everything and that's great. I love that especially now day of age where we don't have anything else greenwich Huge fast fam- lived die breeze nascar in my house but that still doesn't feel the need for the sport and i feel like slowdown philly nutty. Oh yeah absolutely lake. Mean i can't i can't call it a little bit of crap for this When i revealed that. I'm okay people. I'm i understand the hated football team. patriots i know. I know we keep winning. Also the stuff. But as new england. Myself i i have to represent the homestay like you know what i mean. Act to represent where i'm from you know there's a lot of things i don't necessarily agree with with what they've done in certain people that i don't agree with what they've done as well too but you know mostly your as fell patriots. Fan here Your thought brady leaving. It's gonna be interesting and it's going to be interesting you know. Brady you know. I mean in terms of the patriots. being able to win In the future. I don't know it's it's kind of it's kind of a double is kind of a double double sided thing. Because at the same time i feel that i feel that the patriots have the every had they definitely had mason street and you know radius legendary in in that sense as well but the time it kind of feels like this was going to happen at subway. It just kind of feels like time is caught up with that in terms of bringing leaving. It's it's it's gonna be. It's it's interesting but same time. I've i've always had that notion the back of my head that whatever happens mayor if a players greater not something you're gonna get traded or they're gonna they're go somewhere else. I mean server jaded because of the fact that Now's is a big michael jordan fan. And then he got traded off to washington. And that was something i was like. Oh man are all you know. You can't get too attached because these players are tradable. In the sense. I honestly and johns in the chat here so again. John's going to hear this. I'm one hundred percent for brady on bias. I hate ready so much. He is such a cry baby. And i hate bella check so much. I think the nfl dark city so the nfl home. That's great yeah. I mean and you're that honestly we we all. We all hate change until all of a sudden. It's the best thing that's ever happened. That's that's why. I'm kind of like that's kind of i. I can't say we go into the app for or against brady leaving because who knows maybe might be. The best thing that has happened to the patriots might be the worst thing that has happened to to the patriots but saint time. It's you know who knows by this point. And then also you can't eat as much as brady is getting all this link. Meteorology him in all this like no praise and stuff like that despite certain things of course it's it's It's it's you have to sorry avocado. But but that john john has gone sorry finding answer in full detail. The questions that you have as well but yeah But you also realize that that their team as well and that you know as much as one player can you all the credit and stuff like that not the of the day. I don't think brady would be without his team behind him. So you know it's it could be a good thing can be good thing. It could be a bad thing at. That's jane but for myself personally. I'm always change. Why honestly i see us having a lackluster year. That's even of the nfl off the ground. All things considered But just last. I heard the nfl was appointed again The season going unless all the teams who be on even keel. Yeah i totally totally understand. And i command Man for much. Because i put goodell saint postal as i put bella jack i hate them. People that are both lords of the nfl. I would say that. Goodell is main to Belgium starved cities. So just of eight months. Threw me for val check in tom and Goodell that trio. I hate them all trinity. Yeah and that's that's totally understandable on that front as well is diaz. I see us not winning the division. I don't see us making the playoffs if we do. It'll be a wildcard knockout round one outright there in wild card and observed inside we will. You were playoffs. I decided that by jim mora playoffs by i. Honestly i think the bills take our division here because the bills were strong last year. I see i see the bills taking art division this year just because of all faiths considered really true so i know as patriots fan. That's also going to be another reason for them to burn. My hotel has would but on the apple. Sorry i i went there. I kind of that was just hanging there. I had to take it. All jokes aside Thank you for being on. I appreciate it. Yeah he's been nice for having me on boardman. Amin awfully honestly it was funded up and stuff like that but i kinda feel like i questions that were asked. I'm like shit. i can't hits her. Live at stuff right now. It's nice death. Awesome lei that. I had when you said what that was like. That would be my reaction alive if not s out. Oh yeah no. That's that's that that's particularly fond. Why because no. For the longest time. I couldn't tell story to anybody because you just feel that no nda's also stuff you feel like Come out and be like those. Just they just don't want you to speak when when it's in production that's basically about it but yeah it was funny. That's so my roommate. See no i worked on it lately. I would come home and they just assume our well. What's her name. And i'm like did you get any credit in the credits. Not no no. That's that's the thing. Is that with them with a production sent. You hardly ever get any credit lake. It's mostly goes on credit as as much as the credits go on like ten or fifteen minutes or so to realize that for every one of those names that pop up there's probably Ten or fifteen different names are right behind that that are basically just like all this is also somebody that had credit all probably been wertheim nearly as much or the other thing too is. Sometimes you can't can't necessarily onscreen like oh the second unit caterers valley or like oh the second unit. Pa when there's twenty of us like you know what i mean. It's it's a slippery slope slippery slope by me. I didn't get credit for for any onscreen at that. Was that was probably one of the probably what one thing that me and my buddies. We'll talk night for the first time. Well you never know you never know. Let's for your name and stuff like that as remember. Cnn and i sat in my job on the ground. Just stephen just just haven't experienced that movie. And i even looking for my name and then be my buddies. Were talking about it right after. Oh we've got to look for your name in the credits like a fine. That's fine just. My favorite scene in that movie is where the joker gives blood hospital off. And it doesn't bob right away he goes. Oh yeah actually actually I came back into town on the day of the shot. Actually and my button when i came back in the town that was That was when the school that was when the school semester expect startup and also stuff that was actually a candy factories that they were gonna turn out and basically they got a big got permission from state we start from the city to basically turn that candy factory into a into a into a hostile and then they just blew it up. They basically did. The city's work by blowing it up sufficient works all right well. I know you're presser time. I just sit here and talk to you for however long by offering were are right now. We're pushing ten minutes. But i know you do and so so you cannot fix for a second. I'm sorry i was saying that those great talk that we had tonight. Hopefully john join us next time. Joe love to have you back. Maybe maybe even like right after your first match on slowdown. So i'd love to come back to back to shut up above you. Guess right so. Where can everybody find yet. You can find me on. 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But yet they much have a good night stacey Hopefully this pandemic los various To observe point in normal. Yeah so when you get back to to a studio matches and hopefully your debut sooner than later cross-strait shit. You have a good night guess.
S3 E182: Planning Your First Poetry Book
"Hello and welcome to the strength to be human podcast with your host poet and playwright mark antony rossi in this our third year we continue to explore the meaning of being an artist in an ever changing digital world. Now without further. Ado here's your host folks and welcome back to strength to be human. This is your host poet and playwright mark antony rossi this is episode one hundred and eighty two planning your first poetry book island number requests for this actually but i've been meaning to do it for a while anyway so i'm happy to finally get to this. I know this'll be a show that a lot of people interested in who had just trying to put their books together and and once they get some tips. Oh at least some direction. And that's what i'm gonna do Will we have a number of sub topics in this thing. So it's gonna be a you know a little bit more involved in than than usual. I keep in mind. That as as i have experienced in this opic and of done all this or already and work with other people who've done their first books to it doesn't mean that everything i have to say is the final saying how to put your your first book together depending away as you can go about it. I'll give you some of my ideas and suggestions. Obviously if you wanna go by in a different direction. You can do that as well. It's just important for you to know it's not like you're doing my way or the highway is really no such thing as always different ways in different pats so always keep that in mind and i was like remind people that so they don't feel that trapped avowal can do with this way. I should well. You only can maybe take some of the stuff i say us and maybe some that you can't that's fine. Okay now i will point out to you. Oh i what what things. I'm talking about our standards in the marketplace or in In the craft of poetry and putting the book together to have nothing to do with my opinion. That's what they are and other things that on my opinion and i'll point those out as well. Okay now the first thing is is one of those standards. I a- poetry chap book which is far different in a poetry book has anywhere between fifteen to maybe thirty poems a lot of times it stops at twenty four i think this for the the manufacturing sake of putting it together so it's a good chance that that's where you're going to be stuck at about twenty four less okay but a poetry book is four different It's usually between fifteen. Sixty poems is a few books. You know the have larger amount as standard practice in most publishing places they easy start at fifteen usually end around sixty or seventy usually doesn't go much farther than that. It's a lot for folks to read and times unless you and we'll talk about this on the show but unless you have really written from the scratch of a certain theme you know. These are all poems about my travels in france or these all poems about the The death of my loved one or these all about my thoughts on nuclear energy. Whatever then it's a lot to ask the person to go through when oftentimes. There's not always a cohesive tied to all all the different material. I mean it's it's well as well possible that you could be putting together a book of fifty poems all different from each other other than maybe they've been written over the last couple of years but other than that so that's always possible to so you've got to keep that in mind as much as possible. Okay and member. When you're putting this together you'll also have to consider the The reader and when you consider the reader then you also considering the editor who is also usually the publisher okay. So that's usually the standard all right. So that's tell anybody. He wants to try to put together a poetry book. That's really what you should be going towards. You know trying to do all those work in having forty poems and putting them out there to publish a you might get rejected because you didn't have enough work for them to consider okay and They might not tell you that they might to say you should have known reject you know why some i mean some might but you know most editors don't tell you what they would they really thinking so keep that in mind okay. Fifty to sixty poems. At least that's the general standard right now. The next thing again. These are going to be standards as well all right. I'll give you my opinion too. But you know i've seen this across the board okay. A lot of the publishing places don't really want you to have any more than half of the poems already published. Sometimes they literally say third so it could be a third to a half You can check out. You know if you'd like various passes you know. Nc requirements that. Shanley what they are. They don't really wanna put you know a book out venture to do that into the marketplace when so many of the poems are an individual magazines that people can read for free on the internet. That's usually the reason for that. So it's not a good idea when you're putting together a book if we have more than half of it already published because you're going to have to put an acknowledgement page and they're gonna notice that okay so you don't want that. And if they have e book version of it as well that that platform might notice it automatically because they have a robot that check that out and then you'll be in trouble that they won't be able to to publish the book version of it so it's another thing you want to consider and be careful about rank. I know it's a. It's a terrible quandary. Because i mean you wanna right good work and anyone can get the work in. The visually published a helps establish who you are. And ironically they'll tell you in in the criteria you know we'd like to see some of these poems published help you know lend weight to you know what you're doing in in in in in book wanna put out and they cetera et cetera. But then want you to go to for so. It's a weird weird balance that they're trying to have you do in the end you don't really know i mean you could stop at you. Know fifteen or twenty poems. You know being published out an individual magazines and then stop for a year or two to get the book published and god forbid if it doesn't get published. That's all that time has gone by that. You can get anything else. Published those individual sitting there now unpublished. So that's the chance that you take with that situation just as much you to take the chance that you know You went too far. And and now you've got people who are going to reject you because they think too much of your work has been put out in the public and now it's not the most fun choice to have to be making all this. I say that. I understand You know the frustration of all. That's that's something you're going to have to be looking at and came because you can't you can't fudge you know the acknowledgement page only. Put some of them that you got credit for and then leave of his out like they're not gonna know 'cause you know it could be found out you know as talked to the editors they might say hey i publish his poem bubba and it's naming on the page and they didn't notice and they're going to be upset that you know you did that. And of course. Like i said if they have a e-book version now automatically notice you're putting on the acknowledgement page That you've got ten poems published in the platforms. Email them saying yeah. We got like sixty here. I go book practically. So that's why it's much harder to disguise their in and becomes a problem because then it's just a matter of integrity. Then we've screw that up. I mean us burn bridge or two places says never gonna deal with you again. That's this one down tubes so to speak. So i don't really recommend that just going to have to make the choice about what you feel is the Is the best way to go. Is not really clear. Answer there other than you know if you want tavern book published especially in print. You'll even any book these days. Now you gotta be able to Control the things that you get published. Maybe other works. You have outside of this book projects that you could put together already. have written. That yugoslav met so this way keep getting things published and you know keep going that route but at least it won't be part of the book. You can always do that as well. But it's gonna be really up to you about what you want to do. I suggest though that if this is your goal then that's really the best thing to do is is to follow. What the with their suggestion. If you wanna rule of thumb. I go with you this way. okay If you have a book of fifty poems i mean you really should have any more than like maybe maybe fifteen of them twenty at the most published. And that's it because you think about it if you have fifty boom book twenty five hundred at fifty percent. I mean you already like password a lot of them even like so you know if you go sixty then at least it gives you more room. I guess i guess you can get you know twenty five or so looking so strange but that's generally the rule you know. Try to keep it a fifteen to twenty and leave it at that all right next. It's essential for whatever whatever version you're going to get this thing published that whether it's print or e book because it's totally essential but the all day want us up to formulate a table of contents. So you need to do that and make sure that you know it's part of your book you don't have to have uncovered you know And some people include some people. Don't that doesn't really matter but table is really really a professional courtesy. A kinda shows that you have a lay of the land on the book. Also it'll help you internally when you put in this book together because you need to now sort of figure out both The poems that my have some of the theme that you might wanna lying together and then also there are certain poems that they might have a certain weight or gravity to them and others. Don't and immediately you wanna be able to Offset each other in the perfect example. Is that you know if you have a more light-hearted home than maybe it should be followed by heavier one. You know and and that kind of route you don't wanna give people too many lighthearted poems and a hidden when a bunch of heavy stuff later and it's the same thing with you know with the heavy stuff on and they'll like what the heck i went from there there so it's important to try to try to give it some balance you might wanna put a couple to have a certain streak of theme over the moshe no You know level and then others that that that don't dislike you kinda. Give some wheel space to your work and and it gives a lot of people. I feel both in the marginal and intellectual sort of breathing. Let them have a breather from that. You know either breeder software might be too light hearted. Maybe it's kind of heavier stuff. That's in the middle. That's what you wanna do. That's the kind of the table of contents. And that's the kind of setup that you want to do in the book this way it breathes on. Its own you're not. You're not taxing people's you know patients so time rain else. You don't wanna do that because in the end oftentimes On book sites. Selling your book. Particularly if it's an e book version d'eylau the the perusal of the book to for free to check out so many table of contents and maybe even a couple of the first couple of pages of it. So i mean you can either. Somebody turn somebody off just by having arranged in the wrong way and they reading it for free on all nuts too much. I can't handle this and now they don't want to buy it so in many ways you arrange in this way is is also an an a strange kind of way a marketing tool but really in the end. It's helping you arrange things in a way that allows the reader to be able to make a connection and stay with that connection rather than jumping off right away saying this dislikes to fasten. It's gonna make my stomach spoil you know or i'm getting dizzy from this or It went light. And then what the heck happened. You know so. You don't wanna have some of these sudden these sudden movements because it means that you're not putting it together correctly and that really can be a big turnoff for for reader and maybe even for the editor that initially reading the book. It's not their job to re ranger stuff. He had this number seven. Could be number four. I think wanting hp that they're not doing that they're expecting you that you've done all this ready you've done all the work and as supposed to be ready for them to check out so if they noticed that it could be reason you get rejected for that and then you have to live with that. So it's important to try to put that together and arrange it in a way. That's gonna make it more accessible. Oftentimes people will send it over to a friend or to heck. What do you think about this ranger read redesign. We think should be here blah blah. Sometimes having a second opinion is a big help in. That really is so. Keep that in mind okay. In order to be able to have a project that makes that makes them real emotional of not intellectual sense. You know because unless like i said unless we Lets you put something together from completely from scratch. We won't have to worry about that because it really falls into order then you. You're really tasks to have put the water yourself as sometimes that's not easy because sometimes you might. You might be top heavy in one you know. One former one category another and i've known plenty of writers that said mark got like seventy poems but i think maybe only forty either them really going to kind of fit. What i'm trying to get done here and the other thirty won't so now leads me. I have to be me right in ten or twenty poems. Which is a real possibility that definitely happen. And you have to consider that because the arrangement has now only seen emotionally available in intellectually in. You know why he's but it also has to feel natural in organic. It has to feel like already has the flow. Almost like you intended it already. So if it doesn't feel that you're trying to force that you know that might not read to wells to then you know you gotta deal with that so try to keep that in mind when you have to Arranged these make sure your arranged them where they make some real sense now. What i noticed is once people work on that arrangement to get that balance then really. They need to review the work itself. Because you'd be surprised. At how many people when they're putting together the first poetry book dear thinking in the big terms of does this flow. This is work is is a great title for the book. You know blah blah blah as much able contents. Look good is all set up. And that's important. don't wrong it is a it. Sounds like you're not supposed to think about that. But sometimes thinking in that big way you forget about what the most important which is that. Is the palm ready to go for the book. So oftentimes it's important to reread your works. Make sure that if there's nothing you can change your edited or spruce up. Make stronger than do it right there to not gonna have that time what you send out now you could be out four or five different places and again you still getting rejections. You'd be surprised they get back and look at it and go could prove that Different thing so a lot of times. It's not just about you know problem with the arrangement it could be a problem with the poetry itself because you could be putting in their poems. That may you You wrote a year ago. Some of them not even been published it so you haven't. We visited to look them. See if they need to be. You know amped up or ramped up or or changed or brought to date or upgraded at whatever time we wanna use. They might need that. And i know it's a little extra work to do but again they when you're doing it doing it now. Owning the artists and professional but in many ways you're doing as an additional investment for the project. You putting out says nothing wrong with doing that. But you should always look at that. Kathleen make sure that the work is solid that you feel good about it and make sure that the titles you know are or snapping poetic and interesting you know as you know area a chart. I'm really on top of people with titles. I don't think boring one. Don't like cliche ones one word ones that you know. We've seen tawny thousand times or any just because you have this project together in a chill book doesn't mean you now have the permission to be boring so having a poem called day or palm cold night or poem called dog or something. It doesn't exactly help you on trying to get this book together. You know people saying really know when they read this as an editor in saint camman. So it's real important that you also make sure that you got some work to add some snappy titles. It's not wrong and it's been done plenty of times before as long as you acknowledge it that you've got a poem published that was solid and people liked it and they published it but later on you when you put it in the book you feel that the title might not really carry all the way should maybe have a better title mind you can we title it. It's just that when you put it in the acknowledgements you don't. You're going to pretty much. Say you know Jimmy goes to the drugstore was published as you know big jimmy you know in this publication in this day and whatever that's all so they know that it was published as publishing in was with a different title. So you do that. There's nothing wrong with doing that. You know believe it or not. Sometimes editor is not so keen about a title when publishing something individually just loved the poem but the title could suck. Maybe and you realize later on and you don't want to have your project down the way especially when you got a credit you will put it in their own especially if you feel strong about the poem in itself so it's definitely important that you do that and make sure that when you do that not only do you have now but make sure it makes sense. I'm not really saying that. He should have been making all these changes because somehow change is the greatest thing changes make the book better or make the poem better. I mean they have to be changes that you feel warranted. The changed data that strong. That makes sense. Just not change for the for the fun of of a change. That's never a good thing either so definitely keep that in. Mind all right next over here after we've done Making sure how many poems we have they should that been good team and all of that and even make sure that you're adding them here making sure the tyler okay. Table contents all put together. Then you wanna do you wanna do a good good reader veg. Read it from from one end to the other again. It'll help you to find if there's any mistakes or if there is any any issues with the how it flows you know it definitely helps when you When you wanna put a final touch on everything because this way you can make some some slight or maybe even if you need to better oh bigger adjustments before you finally have this project you know put together you know in a in fashion now. One of the things that i noticed when people putting their first books together is dato at that the acknowledgement page we know which has all the credits from things that have been published before. They thought that that really is so like. Tell something about the the writer but you know in many ways. It doesn't it tells something about the poems in the book that will publish. But it didn't really tell much about the writer. I mean 'cause we think about it was really say you know jimmy. Did this poem. He sent it to this place and they published it. That's all they get from that. So i really find that. It's important to put in the back of the book. A little little blurb about about the author. I always do it. I always encourage people to do it. I really think that it helps that. They know a little bit about you. Know jimmy It used to be an editor of literary publication. You now went onto doing some musical shows. A he's written poetry has been published in a number of journals over the last couple of years and this is his first effort. You know if you have some theme with some some real project name for a dead. It's going into certain direction. You can mention that you know. I mean this is about you know endangered species in africa. Or whatever you know put that in tells a little bit about who you are helps. The i feel the the editor in the publishes. A little bit about you and may even help in your own marketing and of things. Especially if we're doing something. Okay so put that in there you know. Sometimes they give you an exact page count if they decide to accept your project and it could be that you know about the author page will literally take the the place of one of your poems so be it i. I still think it's a good a good sacrifice because the people should know a little bit about you they're going to be spending some time with the work and spend some money for it. I mean so when they should have something about you that makes no sense. I all right last thing about these these these projects and easy these i books is is marketing. Okay we'll talk about that briefly and hopefully met some of it makes any sense to you. I'm not one of those people regardless if you wanna market it or not it's up to you how you want to do all this and you know how what kind of impact you have. You're gonna find though that many publishes expect you to have some kind of a marketing plan. Times they won't even accept your project if you don't so i really think that it's important for you to have some kind of authors Page on the internet little website. Even if it's just a basic one so that you can direct people that might check it out to your book is is being sold. okay Lot of times they want you to have some kind of social media presence. Maybe a facebook page or instagram. Or something like that. That's important to do as well guy. You're going to find out that book reviews whether they be print or not all extremely important especially if you get Either the entire project just e book or is just part of its efforts or e book you got these platforms that have review sections. So you know you wanna be able to get people out of you copy which you know. The public can send over to them via email. They can download the book. Read it and they pray blurb in the interview section a couple of us especially if the positive they make a big difference on sales especially on e books. Not only me wrong book reviews for print. Books it's still important. Did don't have the same cells impact as as the books. Do 'cause they're much more immediate. By time you know a book review is written and sent out for somebody to get published. It could be months before the books already out for. Somebody evens his review on it. Seth one of the You know the downsides such a point it's not as immediate as as books but it is important that you stay on top of is making sure that you have you know you have friends or people in the writing world that had to do something on your behalf. Rang review reading a blurb getting some other people to knows about it mentioned in on their blog. All that sort of stuff. Hey do an interview about it on a show like this all even in a written interview so these things important. you're gonna find their important for the publisher because they have certain things they want you to do anyway and you also gonna find that important for you because it's a lot of work to put all this together it's a lot of work to find a publisher and always finding people in the end. They betrayed themselves. Everybody who's working to help them if they just sit around and do nothing and complain. Why is my book net. Selling will you. Job is to make sure that people know about it as not the publishes job. That's the rider's job. So you have to do that and you have to have a plan already in in you know going forward with that is An office website or having other people help you publish it. And put blurbs about it on on facebook and places like that you know have an e book platforms mentioned and all of that. All that stuff is going to be necessary to. Do you know if you have a little email list of people. You know that you stay in contact with you. Know sending them all email book coming out. His link is with the cost by von. Checking out please all. That's going to be necessary to do. If you wanna get a book out and quite frankly is much as work that there is volvo and planning and putting together and successfully getting a first book of poetry published without trying to sound nancy over here. If you're not willing to work hard on the marketing of it you know it could be last to because folks are not going to give you another chance in if it looks like you haven't taken seriously so it's really important that you take the marketing part of it just as seriously as anything else. Okay because this is not like the old days these days. You have to do all of this stuff. He's lucky to get publisher to do. So you got some out there. That are independent pretty much swamp out of people but they'll still read stuff. You got a lot of the academic ones la times. They have a window of a few months in a year that they do things understand academic publishers ten only academic people and they look at your credits and in your bio so she not that academic sh. You gotta have heart a chance of getting published. I'm not saying don't send it onto saying that that's something to keep in mind particularly since just about all of them want you to pay the money ten twenty five dollars just to read your book so to me. I always thought as a slap in face. And i gotta pay somebody. I read this and then i gotta deal with the fact that the overwhelming odds are unless you're not already in the academic world or the have all these millions of academic credits probably not gonna pick anyway so you spending money and time for nothing. That's something to consider. i'm not suggestion. Don't send it to them. It's your money is your time. I'm just telling you that's my experience. And that's my experience with lots of people talked to a regular basis. It's much harder to do. Because they're extremely prejudicial these things said fortunate but that's the way it is some people will go the independent route where you get it create yourself and come up a little oppress name and then you get a bunch of copies and you go out there and you saw him. He saw them in the garage sale. Or you know comic book convention or library or bar does all kinds of places you can sell books. That's what some people do. And that's how they make money back and more and get to get their work out. There is nothing wrong with that as well. He can go the book route. Which of course you know entail something publishing on the e book on not print book. Lots of people like to have their first book in print. They like to feel it. Feel success feel. It makes more valid than e book. I don't really feel the difference. Most of that has to do with us. Being used to something that's not in print but other than that it's to me. This is valid but the yearbook thing is much different because you know you have to have a good description written in there to get track people. You have to have a really wonderful cover. You know you gotta get make sure that link south is sending all different places when people the publicize so they can check it out and you know you could sell some copies and do well with it if if you like. But it's a it's a different. It's a different creature in different animal in the whole thing. 'cause it's much more Small at much more reactive you know have as much time to to impress somebody you know so to speak. Where is valid anti. It's a good way to start so nothing is definitely nothing wrong with that. Okay all right folks. Hopefully this helped you to kind of give you some some pointers on how you want to consider putting together. You know your first Poetry book understand. I'm not one of those people that say you know You've only written fifty five homes. You shouldn't put the book out. No you have a right to do what you want. And he's long as you understand as much as you can understand what you're facing the marketplace How you're going to market it what you're gonna do kind of interior you have does. It's really a personal thing to do. I mean by franklin and what's the point of writing for a couple years and calling himself a writer if you don't have at least one book out in your name to me so it's a natural thing to do you know it's almost this is natural as you know being american couple years and then finally saying you don't think we should have kid it's a stat natural so it's three and that's exactly what the book is. It's the both of your of your first poetic child so best to take care of and that in neglected or not take it for granted because you just don't know if you're going to have another chance so you want to do everything you can to make that successful as possible I folks in seoul next time on the issue a good evening there and hopefully this is definitely been helpful for you. I know a lot of people experts. I want to see whatever. I can do to be of some assistance since i do have a lot expansion on this particular topic and i wanted to do whatever i can to help so hopefully a done that i i guess. God bless marc antony rousey episode one hundred eighty two planning your first poetry book. The blessing good night Thank you for listening. Follow the show and support our efforts by visiting our sponsors at www dot strength to be human dot com or purchasing an e book at www dot so much publishing dot com.
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He just for some context. Dr autry is the founder of a research forum expert x. zeh later in fortune five hundred company. He's a performance scientists. He's speak as also a prolific author. We're gonna be talking about his latest book. Spayed matters along with many other topics onto the show but with though that being said always like to start by learning a little bit about my guess. I'm wondering if we can learn a little bit about Maybe where you live. Yeah i live. In singapore right now upset over here with family now but otherwise. I was born in india but before coming to singapore i have been to many places and it has been quite a journey for me though right now. In singapore i at manager training center for a walk and i love this place. Yeah i can. I can see why given the buyer that. I've read through and all your information and your website. Why you have such a passion for this and why you created speed that makes a of sense and we're going to impact much of that throughout today's kobe and before we do that a little bit more you. Ud yelm sports or or hobbies. I used to play chess when our yet but lately haven't already gotten anything. I just to give the context that physically. I am disabled right. Can't walk because i got to polio. When i was six months old so it has taken away a lot of my physical part of the body. So all i work now and i have worked in my life or earlier is using power. So that's why you see a bit more passionate and In in learning yeah. That's my main field an absolutely absolutely now. Also know that you love movies. What's your most favorite movie. Movies are little bit more on a side by side and have been a great fan of classic back to the future Kind of series. 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But unfortunately i lived in a place where there people whatnot educate that there were not many medical or educational facilities and we're living in a remote area and nothing was accessible. Unfortunately i never had any guidance or mentorship in my early days Even the later in life it was all about me. What i was experimenting and that was the main reason why i kind of set this expert forum where i wanna be able to provide mentorship and guidance to people because that was the main thing which lacked in my life absolutely are into a lot of places around the world. I've seen that. I guess a lot of the countries where there's not many opportunities to get mental shape or there's no infrastructure. They seem to be the happiest people twice. That i think it's not about happiness a modal percents. So but she meant i would say because when you don't have any kind of bold mentorship you need to figure out your own ways you know that it's your race at that point of time and you out techniques out the strategies dark matter and what happens is part of that when you also achieve something but at the same time you'll have kind of forget out some vistim which you can share with of other people and that builds your network that biz your community. I think of deaths aware that happiness is grounded. Just thank you for the feedback. I meant having. Polio is a challenge in itself. How do you think that august contributed to the things that you're doing nowadays. Has it been a barrier or is it being enlightening for you to go through that experience. I think in the beginning to was a barrier. Because it happened to me. While when i didn't even know what it is so i lost my ability to walk well before the age of learning walk so essentially you can say i was walking like this is how i knew myself So in the beginning. I didn't know what it was but then when i started competing with the rest of the kiss and then after that okay i have something which is lacking so in the beginning year. In the early years It was a hindrance for me. Because i had bad about this. But later on ounce. When i figured that you know okay whatever it is it is it's gonna be it's gonna be staying there with me spotify personality. So what's the thing. I can really do better. So that's where. I come out realized that Might immobility possibly can give me the distraction. Free time against it and i can focus again. Read books and that's a wh- my journey to read books and learn of my own started. And i think i started loving marine being and learning so much that that became my mainstream. And that's perhaps the reason that we're i come of stretched my own boundaries. I started experimenting on myself because I talked to you know that could be my ex factor. That's what's gonna keep me ahead of others. Comparison is inevitable when you are young. You compare people compare you with other people so that far bottle bay question. So i think out of that equation. I begin to learn better. Also at the same time i wanted to seek. Guide learn faster than others because that gave me an edge to learn ahead of my edge and make my own place in my social network though. I think it helped me yet immobility. Why am today. It is a lot more contributor. Do what happened to be in child. I know that we have a lot of people on the show that get inspiration from guess and i suspect that you will be no different in this regard. You have people that turn to us. You know when they're down. They had their own challenges to look to you for inspiration for uplifting moment some words of inspiration i guess I do in fact. I have been always told that my story so inspiring motivating But my message to people have been that you know. I have my own struggles mean. I ate the has been difficult journey for me. I can't be your motivation or inspiration anyhow what you can learn from me how. I buy my own back how i gain. That clarity learned that technique because death technique is transferable learned. That and then we'll foreign your life. There's no point getting the installation because installations but short-lived any kind of motivation. We get It basically buses are very soon many warriors but gladdy is something that stays with you forever and that gives you the fuel to move forward so yeah people come to me and all the thing. I helped them to gain that galazi who you are what you meant to be at how you should move forward. Which direction joel forward. And that's wonderful feedback now. I know you've touched on books. And your love of books when you first started. Raiding what was. I book that you can remember funding. This might be quite surprising. First book i ever read in. My life was in carnegie's book how to win france and in our class. Yeah so interesting. Because i read this book at the age when kiss typically read comics but i was reading this book and i think that made the difference or different that that was the way to you know understand but lie and stay ahead and when you start with these classic your life take a different term. I was glad to have that kind of book at that time. Yes absolutely do you think what other classics. Heavy red and thinking very rich in those types of eureka. Yep i have a quite many books. Remain my biggest hourly year's all-star dale carnegie impact. Once i started auditing barney had all his books including the public's began don't Out to stop worrying and everything and stick. And then i begin reading. The books are something like that. Don't say yes when you want to say no so delivered more on our website but lately You know. When i came into the professional world i have been pulled off reading. Jim collins books because his books. I've grounded in research books like a great it. Pass you as an organization of the company. How are you gonna do not take an average company to a great company. What kind of is happens That was indebted. Those are the kind of books. I have been reading lately. It seems to me a lot of factual by statistics base knowledge base and mindset psychology. I'm wondering if you talk about mindset as it relates to the workplace and how how important it is to have guess to the riots monson. Now i think it's great go. San rica might say i think it's very foundational our existence I did this research on speed. The efficiency and i approached a seventy world class organizations. And i asked them that. The what are the factors that basically polio down mean. Why can't gain the speed when when you're struggling with it. So there answer was all simple is all about mindset because people have this mindset. They're limiting belief at the workplace. That will typically pull them back and in some cases this kind of boundaries. Around them. That i can't do it. I am not the best person to do this. So there are ways You know In which that might get developed in our circle and the way we work and also originates from some time. The organization culture is digit. And when gonna boettcher does not give you that. Flexability ships of mind in certain way many organization although as values. But what happens. Is that when you emphasize core values too much. You have no role for fresh air and that create your own kind of mindset now some argue us great mindset some may live with media kind of mindset but you might set is there whether or not they realized and more changes do not have any arguments because mindset. And we're going to take a very deep dive into your latest book shortly to go back a little bit just for the i. Guess the context of the coal and learn what your typical day looks like is. Is it up earlier you an early riser by nature. I am now but by job. Yeah my meetings Start early in the morning. So that's the reason. I need to wake up but i was given a choice that i don't have any readings than i wouldn't like to wake up early so but i am a late night. Our why can't stay awake until two. Am so. I work pretty late at night but Waking barley is a challenge for me to learn a little bit about how technology plays a part in in spade within the workplace. Because i know it does is there. Is there a place for technology. And and what do you talk about in terms of technology inside your latest book. A good question When i was doing research. I Rose to as i said best in jocelyn addition and i was the question. Pretty simple advocate. How did you speed up the development and focus on the broader strategies and practices. They have entrusting the i forget out. There were two hundred different kinds of technologies that's being used in different contexts to organizations Size matters right because some organization can invest heavily on one and a back analogy. Some other organization may not be able to in west that heavily so when i kind of looked at those technologies and then i talk all day. Were having five different kinds of technology. They were using and recently. I present A keynote at the conference talking about the health economic speed up and what it seems like is particularly interests context in the banda make and also in the post pandemic that can knowledge is arguably a big role and speeding up proficiency but a hit a caveat most of the technology or perations those which the implement those are meant for efficiency that means those are mentor tracking people. Those are mentor back into work. And the whole goal of those are acknowledges is to speed up. The work is to make it work. A more efficient maybe eliminate second manual work. Most likely technologies are never bar with the goal of speeding up the embroi- development so when we talk about speeding boy developmental speak the brokerage and see if i need to be implemented and unfortunately the technologies are purchased by central who are never going to be the use of those technologies because to use the employees working for soccer manager so there is a little bit disconnect there but to answer your question guests there are set technology that really were wonderfully some Great example have lately come about his uncle mental reality based headsets which are actually eliminating training together near her wiser ability to employees to learn on the goal right in front of the their machine or a government and they can learn step by step visit neck rock off just so. Those are be amazing. Technology's mantra for speeding up the development. I remember many years ago. Being a quality manager in robotics automation was always fascinated by the ability to remove human beings from the equation. And they did it very very effectively. Very efficiently and proficiently In terms of the types of training that. Us saying there will always be an element of humans in a process went Yeah it is. A human element is always there so bottle the guidance which i give this as if you are going to have technologies that knowledge you can definitely make a lot of patient and historically what has happened is that we have bought on employees all kinds of skills or range of skills so what we do is with stuff are tiny pregnant too much because we also adalah justice. Just in case evanger. Maybe this happened then. You're going to need this skill. So what do you do much. So what happens is we teach them so much if banter to proficiency so long now that was okay or maybe an industry to point dole but the industry quite dole. It's a different equation. Morally the technologies which are coming industrial. Won't my door metaphor efficiency. Those are meant before doing the daska which a human used to but what we are now saying machine can do it more accurately faster epi shanley and the outcome can be much your faster with those kind of technology so we should resolve human judgment pulled the paint which humans can do better more emotional judgment more situational judgement. You're talking a more critical thinking. We're talking about more complex problem solving. Where human enrollment is that key that which is a human and we should train on a voice. On those humanistic skill wind machines can do law automatically. It's wonderful. i'm wondering. Is it river a time where Slowing down is important as as it is speeding up. Should they be bounce. Got the ask. You'd said it right via rica. in fact that is foundational pensive of my book Speed matters There are kind of speech if she receives in today's world worker. Most organizational leader. There will do is. They will push for around greece. They would push their employees to get things done quickly. And there's a mad rush about speed and that kind of for strategies where you push for the time line. When would look for the days when will for completion of the products and dass quickly that is a short-term advantage of speed. It gives the impression that we have the speed but that speed is not long term. It doesn't give any competitive advantage but the speed we are talking about what really matters in our in addition is when you give the embroi- the ability to be able to do the pain first time right consistently reliably be deadly so when they reached that stage. What happened to speed what you gain compared to. Your competitor is long term and of course with background. Speed it just gonna excuse goal to that particular point or first time right a little bit longer. Need you may feel like going slow in the beginning. What happens is what we're saying is if you build your employees and were forced to go there. You don't have to rework. Joe customer satisfaction right on the transaction as higher. Your customer loyalty is higher. So you'll get a competitive edge compared to your competitors or might still focusing on completion of dass quickly so you you send bright That is another thing. Go slow but a goal first time right and data speed you again in the long run which gonna stay with you forever. That's incredible so thank you very much. Now i'm wondering in terms of All of this work. Now when you're training a group of people is it what are the what are the boundaries they are they better off learning about systems as well do you do you try to how to be proficient in a certain way you talked about doing it the right way first time every time is is there a focus on systems and process control. Yeah that's spa. That depends upon the job roles. Are system that us to the diplomatically. There and so the way. I kind of divided the bill find out is one kind of skills. We all imports in. Puskas are all these system process acknowledges tools what you're going to need to be about to do your job. But then there are what we call. Outward focus skill awkward focus gives our primary job role just again example in ben damage. We have seen it quite a bit. Professors job is to teach students. And that's the outward focus skill that primary skill. whatever happens on the technology space doesn't matter that skill is never gonna change. That's going to stay stationary. That means you mastered that. How could teach people. It's going to stay forever the deal. Because then you'll re consistent you'll meet. Reliable beatable invade. The performance will be proficient but on the other side. They are acknowledges and bandanna during pandemic struggling to use zone many of them but that doesn't take away their ability to be able to teach students but then three zone. Maybe tomorrow this is going to be new technology. Maybe someday we're gonna use holography technologies to teach our students so imports inskeep changing and what we're saying is if we for our employees on the skills they going to stay relevant much longer but what happens. Is that mistake as if we spent too much time. Training them on input. Focus gifts but input-focused cases where you're adjusting four point -o with machine. There's a lot of things you can delegate to somebody more and you can offshore a lot of you can outsource lot of things so these. These side of imports is can be automated. Can be outsourced done differently. You can possibly can hire an intern. Who can help you with a lot of processes. But you can't replace this kilo teaching when it comes to a job all the professor. So i hope i can offer. Divided gets right now and this is a very deep Conversation that we could have that could go in many directions to adapt To learn small businesses made him saw as businesses and the they may not have. I guess the skill sets or the resources or experience to develop training has about good question and i think that's the biggest challenge during the pandemic and spend every wasn't mandate. It's going to be much more crucial because We have seen that during pandemic of many of these small business owners big on a hard hit. Who many of them actually lost blinds and several bam. They were never trained for speed. So what has happened is they have lost their market share they have lost positioning so in postponed post pandemic then they will have this challenge to recover back their market share and that blind and the positioning bardo. This one. what we're saying is only you can do right now is speed and the speed we're talking about here is how fast you build the skill set of your employees so that they are consistent they ever reliable. They are blink first time right ahead of the competition but it's a big big question. We're talking about here. Large organization can afford to put millions of dollars a whole lot of these sources to make that happen but for a small business owners walk. Mighty addition is bad. Though you'll have to build something or speed enabling ecosystem now what i mean by speed and ebeling ecosystem is us what you already have your people your member. If you're a small team bay still gonna need to work with the managers. They're still need to work with the environment. What should have setup. They still need to work with the team. Because they don't work in isolation and they still work with some of the export either internal to your small business or external it could be consultant and otherwise and most importantly you also may have central or perform support system which you use so what we're saying is now all these elements together make the ecosystem. This is already there. Only thing is that you possibly never laboratory well. So now. what we're saying is that instead of training your employees uptrend. Can you change your technology in a way which allow them to learn on the go when they need it. So that you a diamond. The beginning as investors are more critical skills some ping which i can bow nor on the golden on what i'm talking to client. I don't need to learn the doctrine so that saves me dying. You're gonna die. I'm pastor that's number one number two what we're saying is in that ecosystem you'll always had managers for your teams. You'll have one or two or three super depending on how big your business both an order always there. So instead of you know holding them accountable. Only for operation of the business hold them accountable for big. Deep entrusting employs development. It makes a difference ran manager. Sit with employ day. How's your way Argued facing any challenger. Should i give this assignment. That's going to help you learn whatever you learn to lie in that context so it makes the whole difference because now live boise and that my managers with me so that pushes them forward White a big time and that we have seen If everything is equal in the resource gash on everything managers can be the biggest enablers off. They can be the biggest dissemblers of speed. So that's the you know the the are the ecosystem right so what. We're saying now laughing at them. You already have them use them. You talked about workplace culture before and ahead. Something come to mind. Often times employees will feel. They've just been given more work more content to confirm this two parts of this question. Should they be doing a doing some sort of verification and validation of their training at the end of of they're trying to say that they've actually learned the skill that's necessary and how do you get Where price tames to embrace. Trying really bryce. Yeah that's a good question in my research or what we get out. Is that Managers on in the organization. Those organised war already successful in meeting up their employees time to proficiency. They had different kind of behavior and part of that behavior was not bad. You have a computer training now. I'm gonna give you the projects which will help you. Apply those kids but they actually took entrust in well-meant even before the beginning of the training base had with training designer. This had with a trainer. What exactly you're going to teach my employed. This is exactly challenger what you'll be able to incorporate that and that's where law pinning happen hitting hands the way this doctor levin i don't need my employees to learn is my employees this and thus give which is which are necessary. So now what happens it. The discussion happens. Would they went by the manager not manager. Dick dash walked really his employees would need to learn and then also part of the some of the managers even sad during the first half. The of the jimmy brogan imagine when you as a manager sit with your employees in the same training program and boy would know that you care about. What's the going to make them successful. So now you don't try to them with a relevant training bottle that one. I demanded that you also decide that this is building content. there is. It's all memory based. I don't want you to learn this this one weekend download using a smartphone ablazing or other technologies. You can learn on the goal. I want you to learn these skills. Which are the foundation to your outcomes. Thank you very much for. Sharing are wondering about the i guess. The modus operandi is that primarily video nowadays or text based component. What's the best modalities for teaching. I think there is no one. Method can work because a human mind is what he complex. We can't really predict what kind of information is going to be. Better which way we learn differently Back but the thing is that if you got complex data Definitely put it in favor and But if you have something which you only need to listen and absolve possibly video or audio. Method can work better but in reality. What we're saying is don't stick to one macro issue alert to any information or still in second more than prior order different more. You're got need to kind of wash video even if you had an extra so what happens when you absorb the information the information using all your senses it get an order deeply into your mind and when you need it you can reproduce it and use it so that's also the key to the proficiency what how many different channels you are using to get these skills and ordered in your brain. Wouldn't incredibly talented individual you out all this knowledge. It's taking you so long to combine all of this. You've obviously taken the time to roy. I think is more than twenty books now. I'd love to just touch on that briefly. What are some of the topics that you touch on. Throughout your series of books. I write two books on different aspect. I'm not they just will focus on professional. I also on personal you give them. My my belief is this. As a human we are multidimensional. We cabbie lara bar expediency in our life. We have been son in our lives. We have been father in our life. We have been friend in our life. We have spouses and a lot of different roles. We play in our life at winder. We're not just. Manna does all leaders. So that's one of the identity. What the what we do. But away from work we have a lot of other sloping that shape us are multidimensional personality. So i picked at different pieces for my personality and can into books. I have written books on boy tree. I had it then. books are huge Audible books containing hand bra drawn. Four crates allow banks. And then i also written books on leadership. I haven't done On training and learning and no. I'm more focused on writing the book about the speed. How do you accelerate your bad On the goal there are some books. I'm standing which more about Coaching new offer. How do you write a world glass book. So i basically touch upon different the bar of personality what i do best and then i try to capture that former books so books monthly john right now. That's wonderful it's it's it's better to leave the knowledge that you've attained through your life rather than try and take it with you when you go and i am yeah. I'm wondering if you could if we're getting to the point of the co now's running. We can spend a few moments talking about firstly. Just very briefly. You're speaking how is the I guess the pandemic global situation affected that is starting at the door starting to open up again out. I think it's contact show depends on which country you are based in but the countries like singapore obiorah mandy. The impact is not that big of course international barca's Are still closed. There is a lot more opportunity. Things are opening. What's too late has been open under ever since from day. One of the pandemic but the in-person for speaking event those are coming along now literature. Restrictor jones for your needs to follow protocol and that a lot of logistics in wall. But it's coming along. But i guess some of the countries have already opened the light events. Imagine how heroic sort of people that are coming to see you. And i can't wait for people. Have that opportunity once again now. I'm can we talk about spayed meds. The book just very briefly in terms of is it a cover to cover raiders more resource book that you go back to and what will pay pool find inside this one football. I wrote this book. Specifically for bob bra peter ceo's and executives to educate them about how they can go speed savvy for the dimes dot com. So in this book. I haven't equitable both research inside and business pistol together. The book itself as a result of research would seventy best in class organizations during that i approach to eighty five world leaders from seven countries. These were the leaders or whom speed maggert a lot as a competitive weapon. We have seen that being on a lot of organization now struggling with ninety but at the same time a lot of other organization the airpods track. They have accelerator their implementation but dow mike gone decks for this book. Was that the why the by me was important because after the pandemic is all over several organization was struggled to recover their market share. That been your customer so they need to master speed so that leadership process is water. I covered in. This book will to make that speed as priority does want to stay relevant advanced gum. So in this book. I talk about how to prioritize it onto proficiency metrics of their teams and how leaders can bring that language of speed in that organization so i have shared a lot of alarming numbers began. More of leaders don't know how long does it take. For their employees to develop so from different industries have compiled. A number are shown them that. How alarming those numbers are. And then i have also shown that the how much action is positive. Well almost speed is possible in different. Gone dexter and when you do that what kind of business benefit you can get in terms of our revenue in terms of retention in the customer satisfaction and other business kpi. So that's the completer about three hundred pages book a lot of information and mainly meant for. Ceo still open up. There is other yonkers companies to open up to that idea that i never part about that recently. I just kind of deliver a keynote at a very large conferences. And the chief human resources officer said you know what this makes sense but i wonder why i never paid attention to this ever said education so said it's an amazing piece of work that you put together you turning some incredible work and it's a credit to you and thank you very much for all of that now when people want to Find you i guess. Where are they going to go and we can. They bought this book. This book is available in all the books. Sadler said he. Taylor also world but the i guess law of people these days by the song so it will available in amazon is available in paperback as well as libration very beautiful one jacket dead hardcover boca mostly most executive typically like those kind of boxer which they can keep it on this show so it is this book designed from that bang also Amazon he does Listeners can go ahead and buy justin you decide just been matters by dr romans and it will be. They're fantastic. And i'm i'm assuming that if they wanna touch base with you At expert ex they will go to speed to proficiency dot com. Yeah now that's a little bit of a hard to You know remember website. They can actually go to roman k dot com. That's my name website and it's going to lead them to export automatically. So that's the best place to reach me. Thank you so very much now. Every every anybody is on the corner there is looking to get their hands on this wonderful content and to learn more from dr autry. I'll be making sure that the links available below this pose no matter where you see it you definitely find those links back to artery and with that being said thank you so very much for joining me on the future business show today. Thank you so much it has been my pleasure really appreciate And more Water so i would like to appreciate your research gives you have deep dive into my profile and deal questions are wonderful thank you. Thanks for joining us today. If you enjoyed the coal then mike shorter subscribe leiva common shares with your friends and book your spot on the show at my future business dot com forward slash interviews. And if you're looking for solutions that will help grow your business then visit my future. Business dot com forward slash shop.
Interview with Nathanael Zurbruegg
"The. Welcome to the breakfast leadership show where we interview global thought leaders on business leadership in life. Here's your host keynote speaker bestselling author and chief burnout officer of the breakfast leadership network. I go eleven. Welcome back, I've Gotten A. Break down the and the FANEUIL. How're you? Hey might go to he hit today mushroom way well. Good stuff I'm glad that you're here too. So you've got a really interesting journey in your life and and the fact that you know we're talking to you quite frankly as a miracle based on some things that happened in your life that you. If officials, doctors and everybody else said, you wouldn't be able to do what you do. So tell us a little bit about you in this backstory of yours that is quite amazing. Yeah. Absolutely. So Right now I'm living intuitive Whitman and I've been traveling around the globe the Lhasa. Fears I an inch global inspirational speaker out working at Victoria's might Chapman taught to how people talk to leave the unlimited life that they have in themselves and? The reason I do that actually because of my story because our one year old when I lost my own kidneys, um which meant like. To Go to a show called dialysis treatment where she basically allay life safe increasement. Because if you. Don't have any kidneys you're not able to. Donate and intern the bodyguard tweet toxic and. I had to to stack during that. I three creates all ran. After two weeks coma the. Doctored caught my parent into the ice hugh to terminate my life and there was a time when there was no brain brain function anymore after two weeks of comber there were noting else get dr called do and. But something happened at that moment when the when patent said the Falwell. On the good. The good. Bye and deducted turned off their lives to put machines I started lately to call again. I confess back to live not chest end up moment like all Shanley I come back when back Tacoma and then but over a couple of weeks I recovered from that and there was absolutely no brainer. At that point. However, there was something later on when I had. To high blood pressure, wish from them medication from the side effects deployed a pretend of my heating your Mumbo charity I'm hitting pet it's working really well, we hitting it but it struggling bid on since fall yet out. It continued like. Quiet normal we dialysis treatment. Three times a week I do that. On then we'd five years on had I. I. I hope come close my life when my first. Kidney Transplant. Unfortunately on elastic phone twenty, four hours. I had under the kidney transplant we to yet. So seven years old for twin hundred years. And that was basically two time I could flourish in my life at never before in my life. Did. What it meant to feed myself. Feed by Michelle I didn't know what it meant like to be outside of the hospital to play fan try it hobeish and all that stuff after those two and a half years of having the Kim Twenty Plan Y. Flourishing Lot. Unfortunately the conic in straight back and lowest does kidneys. And the sad reality worse. I felt into deep depression for two weeks I didn't. Talk. Anything I didn't eat entertain almost didn't move. All I wanted to do to take my life. Fortunately going up really beautiful family. Now, beautiful home where my pantry like that they have to do something and at that point we had kind of. Professional pastoral care. Help me especially as one of my pilot to overcome the situation. Slowly I regain the emotional physical and spiritual strength there was another event I would like to share it. Now. Thirteen years old no actually eleven years old. When it happened might todd kidney twin plant. And that will only work for thirteen months before I had to go back to the life saving treatment. But wanting realized even though I had the best time of my life again and everything that I want. I should. Still. Sell trumpeting was missing. And for me. What I learn more basically do have. A relationship we. We chose one I'd call it above me conditional loving relationship. Noting that I had everything had with a kidney. It will certainly gun after not yet a rela- that. Moment in the highest point of light I really kept maybe they more to life than what we can get. By the medical business may be mentally physically whenever and So I created a started to create a philosophy and the believe to say that. Even though I lost my Turk kidney transplant, I'm going to focus on that everything we would come to fully good which actually happened over the last What is now twenty s Ternent. One the. Last kidney transplant and I've been to several other on. Twelve depression and now when I was about fifteen years old. But even though I've been through Four thousand, five, hundred lifesaving treatment by now. We still have to determine the week for the operations and. A doctor's action. Six Times by now, it shouldn't be a to walk tall amount to anything I really realized. Dad. Live. Beautiful and it is and that we can always. Quaid. Positive Kuwait. and. Hopeful attitude. Your story is inspiring Nathaniel and the that. Even, at a very young age, you knew didn't give up and your parents didn't give up and because you know you get a prognosis like you did when they said, okay, you know it's there's no you know brain function and you know we don't think he's going to live and they decide to. Shut the machines off and here you are today. speaks volumes to your internal, just your strength and with you know parts of your body not working like they should and all the transplant surgeries and all of those things and at kidneys are are crucial crucial component to. Being and the fact that you've had to endure all of those things and and overcome all of these obstacles is an inspiration to me, and I know is to people listening to this because. Everybody faces challenges in life, but my goodness am you've gone through a ton at a very Early Age. You're still young and you've toured all of these things and here you are today. You, know standing on top of the mountain and I'm sure you have your challenges to even today. Year. Your attitude towards life and the work that you're doing is is amazing. So let's jump into jump into and we talked about your book a little bit before we started. So talk about you know your book and and you know the stuff is in it and the other work that you're doing. Yeah absolutely. So I basically e book that you can download eight own my flip tight. Judo Chiyo on a personal website mcdaniel to book cone and Tell What the book actually about what I realized that. To how. My Life will audit people live at the four steps that we can take in order to relieve the unlimited life that is already Retain us because I believe that. Whatever we put into practice. Eight has already been done somewhere else or they're of course, there are few things that hasn't been achieved that hadn't been done yet, but they're reality that. mind. is so powerful in chills that we can achieve. To. Apply that is. In our at one in front of us and I, call it the step to unlimit Your Life I. I actually realized that on the on the word unlimit is not an English word, but I took. Why no create chomping me for me something like unlimited. It's already it happened. While you unlimited something you're on the churn of. And that's exactly what the book about it. A little book way practical your play and the four steps basically takes you from. To question yourself about who you are. So, many times in other people's lives or at while in my life I realize that. We are often so unaware of who we really are. In defense of. What kind of passion we have? What kind of? Why should we what kind of? Strange we have. These one part Kabuki Kabukicho. The second parties? Is asking the question what am I here for? So many people in today's world leaving alive by default by design leaving alive. that. Feel like a have to leave because somebody else. Might be under group pressured or I shall from media pressure or whatever it can't be. But I. Believe that. Those two question. Who Am I what I'm here Are the most. Powerful. Question we can ask in a life no one time. They always need to ask to be asked again even my shelf asked many many times and I still do it today when I feel like Mesh up or I feel like not making. Or something is wrong. I have to go back to myself and hey, what's in the that needs to change What what to would need white now, how do I adapt myself to? Get the PEOP- A. To what I however want to help them. The. Step page basically Kuwait Vision or a dream from you. Who Am I and what I'm here for? And you you can. Step all simple on the e book. By feeling they. Great. Great. Practical step Tajik by feeling out directly book. And Show, you create a premium but creating dream or Imagine team that will. Be that you should be do or have or want to be have in the future. There's an a because it might be peachy it might be Visu, but it doesn't mean it practical. So the forged it will be basically helping you victorious mentality to push through. Limiting belief Kush, troop that de extravagant limitation that you might tap in your mind in order to to. Create Dream but leave out the dream that you can be fully fulfilled and no. Fulfill in your car off but also fulfill for audit to how people. To make this. Place. That's amazing and I. Love How you talk about the Victoria's mindset and the self limiting beliefs because. I know that that limits so many people throughout their lives and even the most successful people that we see today. Struggle to the state with those things are no I do. But thankfully, can catch myself and say that's not reality. You know that's just self-doubt creeping in past traumas or things that happen and. And I don't let that. You know impact. We sure I. It's not. You're still gonNA feel the sting of it. It's not like you're GONNA BE NUMB TO IT and won't hit you at all. It's going to it's it's that mindset of recognizing. Okay. This is. Maybe. Even a minor setback in something or that didn't work out as planned. That's fine. Something else is GonNa come along little work better or all right. Well, this is what we have to deal with right now let's keep a positive outlook on it. In even times like this at the time, this recording were in a pandemic so. Having a positive mindset and just really. Recognizing. That, you know we too can overcome this particular situation that. So many of us are going through right now. GIVES US promise and hope and a better outlook on life. So the little things don't become big things. So, if you had one piece of advice for somebody that has self limiting doubts and struggles and concerns what would you tell them? Okay absolutely. Well, I think like what I realized is often that. Goes done define my fruit shoot what what we usually like that the moment we live. What we are. Shoot, down the you get a picture of maybe You drive into to know but. The reality that to. He's never. US along shooting gated there will always if you keep going you might. Go back on. Going walking to the left to the right, you might hit the wall you might. Hurt Yourself but. If you keep going if you if you. Keep. Going on working in the in that to know. There will not be on live on the end of the tunnel and you will get out of it and what it usually does. You might in to know, you might see all the black thing the dark teams. But on the opposite, you learn when you Get Out of two probably in a into a beautiful sanity of the nation. You. She was completely different. You appreciate more. You see that little things that you might not have seen before. I she's wanting inspire you. You would currency tuition will never be definitely, and because that we always be a better time coming here. What happened what you want do cushy maybe already now even you don't light. Switch you mind to. What they what can? What? Can I be grateful right now in that moment that I might not have had ten years ago and I still have right now. What we're my fruit luke late through some picture while down Audi recorded. T- you sell somewhere. What you want to be, do a half which in turn. Increase your expectation of the future and a hope and the quoting. As soon as you have a picture different pitching, you mind what it will look like featuring. You will automatically I say. Vaca- fully say automatically you take different steps to what your life and you. And you were. Have Excitement you will have hope you will get Pece back, your gats Detroit back and I think that's all all the different elements that you can apply already. Could. Strong. Difficult. Situation. That's amazing. Advice that I hope everybody follows it. So the fanny of loved our time today, where can people find out about you in this book and all the other stuff that you're doing? So you can get on their website. He Oh? Off Personal website nick, you trick cone we should have more of. My personal life and business website is more about distillery says is provide by on both touch where you can have. Yeah you condone wrote the book for Free and I would love to get connected with you. Awesome I'll definitely have that in the show notes. So Nathaniel, thank you so much for your time today. Thank you for for being a fighter in life and and coming out on top and sharing your story with with the world and inspiring. So many people that might be struggling with some things you know, give them hope and guidance on all this wonderful things that life vest offer. For having me. Thanks for listening to the breakfast leadership, show part of the breakfast leadership network visit breakfast leadership dot com for tips on empowering Your Business and your life.
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