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Hour 3: Ross Dellenger

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Hour 3: Ross Dellenger

"We want the best of both worlds. We want a hybrid a smarter. Hybrid cloud approach ibm helps retailers manage supply chains with watson. Ai while predicting demands with ease the world is going hybrid with ibm visit ibm dot com slash hybrid cloud fried passionate and patron tree of college. Football leaves here. The paula finebaum. Show our to podcast back. The second half the program is live. It is national signing day. Better college football reporter out there than our next gas. Ross dellinger from sports illustrated. He has written today about the ever. Slow changes of college football especially under the heading is brought into change a wage college. Football is facing a recruiting reckoning ross. Great to have you on and it seemed like a normal day nick. Sabin got all the siamese and everybody else was left to watch but Before we get to your piece just your reaction on a fairly quiet national signing day. Yeah it is. I think we're probably going to see more of this as we as we go through the year too it's just it's signing day is going to be quieter in quieter In already worst pretty quiet because the december national signing period but now you throw all of the transfer portal stuff With coaches holding spots for transfers and in the bigger news has been has been transfers. You know so not only did the early national signing day in december Kind of cake Take the spotlight away from the old school signing day but now you have transfers doing the same think at last check do we have. We have a number on how many tennessee players are in the portal. Well the number. Last week when i did compilation for that story you mentioned was nineteen And i figured there'd be tops in the nation but they are not They're number two Western kentucky has twenty one players in the portal freight a freight ask. What's going on there. But i'll look into it after you're off the air. Let's talk about your piece today. And and every time we talk to you you you you. You have your handle on on where college athletics is. And where is it going so look ahead as you report have reported on this subject and and what is likely to change in the future right. It's to put it simply politics. It's a mess It really is a messy situation right now when it comes to roster or management's It all starts because of the the influx of transfers. You know when when there were reports were out there that the ncaa was gonna pass the one time. Transfer exception and allow allow players to transfer without that one year sitting out penalty. Obviously players jumped in the transfer portal and their or at least by my count around thousand scholarship players. Transfer portal and about fifty percent of those Do not have a home right now. There could be hundreds more joining the spring and the summer when the dog officially pass it and they will pass it by april Shane lyons The d. one Oversight football oversight chair tells me they will pass it by april so you'll you'll have a bigger influx. What happens there when you get more transfers out there. They had fewer and fewer homes to go to You you've got transferred from the power. Five paul dropping down to the group of five or the fcs. 'cause there's not any room and then there's some transfers and the poodle that won't play football again. I mean that's been documented In fact i wrote about in lsu player who two years ago with no transfer portal in. Never play football again. Because there wasn't a spot for them so and wives and their spot because as you mentioned scholarship limitations. The ncaa has the schools can carry eighty five scholarship. Players can sign twenty five new players a year only can't get go above that twenty five and because of the influx of transfers there's talk of increasing or just in some way that twenty five man spot because what a transfer does all there's so many of them What happens is if you if you get a transfer day. When they leave that school they. They're in a way penalizing that school. That's an open scholarship. That school cannot fill In an adjoining their new school. And they're taking up a to precious twenty-five chinese you know initial counters. They call them. So there's a lot of issues for sure going on ross. I realize some of these players in the portal maybe encouraged to find a new home but but some of them are players on scholarship and probably will would've remained. What is pushing all these young players to jump in the portal and sometimes hitting the ground without landing. I think overall it's just something about society these days as well. Paul it's a In every industry right every walk of life in journalism There is like there is a Im- wanting immediate Satisfaction immediate playing time in this case. And i think you know. Athletes are arriving on campus. And wanna play mealy if they don't they're going into the portal In hoping to find a place where they can play immediately or just hoping to to better their situation So i think that's probably the biggest reason but you're players are certainly pushed out programs. That happens all the time. in fact. that's why the ncaa a few years ago. Put the limit on those twenty five to twenty five man limit on there. So coaches would do that. Less Push out players So i think mainly Kids are going into portal. Because of they weren't playing time you know they want to better their situation a lot of times. They don't understand There's not rule to better your situation Now it's not everybody. You know a lot of players go in the portal. End up bettering their situation but right now Just by the numbers. I was crunching You know there were i think. Three hundred power five players in the portal right now that are committed to another school sixty percent of those Have to draw level to the group of five or they. Fcs so It's it's just you know. The spots are few Now coaches are adjusting their recruiting how they recruit because of the portal They're gonna leave spots open. Some coaches are leaving Half of their twenty five so twelve over thirteen spots. Open for transfers Now what does that do it. That's a ripple effect on high schools and junior colleges. If you're not gonna sign as many of those players you're not gonna develop at many of those players these four year player so there's a lot of troubling issues that kind of lie head rush with sports illustrated raw. She live a in the shadow of the nation's capital and yesterday of course ea sports announcement There's so much conversation about what's what's what are what are the next few months. Look like especially with significant legislation. Well it's funny about that. We just seconds ago posted a news story it s dot com about the latest on the nfl and Iowa the state of iowa becomes a the latest state to pass eight in iowa law and the big significant part of their bill. That was introduced to say. I misspoke there. They haven't passed it. They introduced it. Iowa had in the biggest significant factor in that in that bill introduced iowa. Today is it has a effective date of buy one like florida's so all states are rushing to pass in iowa law so their state schools are not put at a disadvantage this summer because right now it appears that federal legislation is not gonna come in time By this summer and right now the. Ncaa is obviously delayed. Its own legislation. So it's almost like a free for all for the states and it's kind of a race to the summer rose not to turn you into chuck todd but why not you. Your your wife covers the capitol. You're you're right. They're keeping up with the the house remaining democratic. The senate essentially democratic now. That's a fifty fifty tie with the with the with the vice president. Breaking that tie does that mean. It's more likely. Does that mean does it mean anything in relation to legislation for student athletes. Yeah we wrote about this a couple of weeks ago at after the basically after you know biting everything was sworn in and all the all the senate had the change over to democrat because it's a unified democratic government. Where you you mentioned the house senate in in in the white house You're going to see in. I o bill. That is not going to be. Just you know it's gonna not be narrow. Republicans were wanting a narrow in the ncaa to was winning a narrow bill that gave the ncaa protections that had a good pet restrictions on athletes will democrats bills are much more broad. They're gonna cover healthcare they're gonna have include revenue share and so it's just opened up a lot of different issues here when you brought in the bill. Obviously it takes more time to pass it. It takes more time to debate it. it's just gonna take more time in as in that story A couple of weeks ago. As senator chris murphy and richard blumenthal told me They do not see in oil and congress even moving an inch until after biden's first one hundred days so that puts it at In april at some point in april. And you're looking at then. You have debated in committee subcommittee. Then it goes through committee for vote. Then it goes florida debate. Then it goes reconciliation process with the house if it's on the senate or the senate if it's the house there's a lot to be done so it's it's going to be I think you know as chris murphy said it would be a surprise to him if they get a bill or college athlete bill because again the democrats when they barat bill. So it's not just going to be an eye on To have a college athlete. Bill my desk by the summer. It's just. I don't think it'd be possible. Congress a couple of other issues perhaps more pressing. Ross great to have you on as always a fantastic job. We will talk you very very soon. You gotta ross dellinger joining us fantastic conversation there. We will continue more of your phone calls at eight five five two four two seven two relatively quiet national signing day. Alabama is the headline of course with nick saban and maybe the best recruiting class of all time. John told us out about two hours ago. We are coming right back. You're listening to the paul finebaum show. Podcast do own or rent your home. Sure you do. And i bet it can be hard work you know. It's easy bundling policies with geico. Geico makes it easy to bundle your homeowner's or renter's insurance along with your auto policy. It's a good thing too because you already have so much to do around your home. Go to geico dot com. Get a quote and see how much you could save. Its gyco easy visit. Geico dot com. Today that's geiko dot com. We welcome you back. Don't forget tomorrow danny. Sheridan orr rejoins the program. We'll get his take on the super bowl and of course look ahead to next year's college football season danny will join us tomorrow afternoon. And let's check in with dennis. Who is up next. Hello dennis bomb dennis. We're doing great Listen i grew up in the sixties all bear bryant and auburn play and I never have locked alabama. I'll tell you why. I'm happened to be an auburn fan and In my opinion the reason to bear was so successful he had if you remember like what are your key players on the sideline and he always keep his players fresh during the game right dennis. And that's because the recruiting restrictions were so different in the are today one other thing In my opinion that Never be another quarterback. Joe name he if you remember. When he came down obama he could tell the football thirty or forty yards so hard acre raffled out ball down the field and its own players. Couldn't even pick divall start with. No i agree. Joe name was one of the most unique players In college football history. Thank you very much for sharing those memories. Nick is up next in florida. Hey nick hey paul. I've got a couple of questions for you hope. Let me get both of them firstly. Just when you thought it couldn't get any better for alabama in two thousand seventeen you got this class Seventeen those guys could probably by a small eastern european country money. They're gonna make or already have made now. My question is The carpet bagger over at the cal. College my over under two years. Do you take over the android. That one i would take the over so okay okay. Good now. my second question alabama basketball I call it a couple of years back. And i participated about avery. Johnson should be fire because the alabama basketball team was underperforming. Now we've got this guy nato and you know. Let's take that oklahoma game and let's just say that's an anomaly. The are we going to be able to keep him. Can alabama back up the brinks truck. A give him a contract that we can keep data oats. I never thought we would be in a position that somebody will come and steal from us. Well unless it's football of course. Yeah i'm trying to think back in my history of alabama basketball which goes back to the eighties. I remember in alabama coach ever see him. Newton retired and became an athletic director. But i don't think anybody was out there. Trying to steal in alabama basketball coach in the past nato is in regardless of how the tournament goes. I think we'll be a coach in demand. So that's up to greg byrne and i would. I would think greg bourne. We'll do everything he can to to ensure that nato's stays right where he is. Thank you for the call. Sean is up next sean. You're on the air from tennessee. Good afternoon high paul hair. Okay make sure you can hear him first time caller a big fan of yours Think very highly of you. And that's wanted to get your opinion on Kirby smart georgia football Do you see kirby maybe at some point getting national tidal and As far as They say do you see that staying on top. I mean i don't see any other conference that can compete with them for years to come. But i just want to get your thoughts on that and i appreciate you. Thank you very much. Appreciate the kind words i i. I do believe Curb smart is going to get a national title at some point now. When is that. I think could be pretty near and no. There's nobody out there right now in the same time zone as the sec. David is up next in texas. Hey david you're on the air. Howdy hey i just have a couple of questions are mainly about alabama As i understand it no players this year lost a year of eligibility that right. That is correct. Yeah everybody gets a bonus year or a gap year so in theory. It never happened. But in theory the whole alabama team come back and play. Your could about half of them have already announced. They're leaving your. Yeah they could. They could line up next year with With with mac and devante and Dickerson nagae and dominate again. If those guys wanted to pass up fifty one hundred million dollars but next year or this coming year we have somewhat of the same kind of a mutual depending on the quarterback situation the running back of robinson the my cat he is hall here the heart. So he's already proven that and then Waddell can rehab to ninety percent is better than anybody around it. So have david price young is going to start off theoretically as the starter and it was hard to get a good read on him last year. You heard a lot off the field. Maybe he didn't quite live up but you know he was playing behind a great player and he'll he'll have his shot. He's five star player. One of the top quarterbacks we've seen in a while so. I don't think anybody alabama's fretting over that drew is in knoxville. Hey drew its going. Well thank you. Hey appreciated droop. Questions about tennessee football but the higher the new ad. You'd think that was probably that was a good hard. Everybody thinks oh. Do you think have catch more of a helping hand or you think it was the right person for the job. Well i don't. I don't think it was a very attractive job. Drew pending ncwa sanctions. And i think. I think the job was offered to a couple of other people and got turned down and decided you know what i'm not to turn into a circus. I'm going to hire somebody. I know i can hire and i know i trust. And that's why he brought in josh last week with apple with occurred in a strongest allies. And everything do you think they take a step back down into next year. You say well. I don't think i would say that. Yeah i think hypo can can prove to be a good recruiter certainly He had no chance to do anything this year. And as as ross dellinger said you got seventeen players in the portal and the number of them have already made declaration. So i think what the program needs right now is just some stability and i think about three years down the drain and the idea was for for jeremy. Pruitt to calm everyone down. After the turbulent finish of butch jones and now that's blown up that's gone and Program isn't isn't isn't a rough spot doesn't mean they can't when six or seven games next year. The schedule is not that difficult as it could be a lot worse. I trying to say there could be oklahoma on the schedule or oregon. as there. There was a couple of years ago. Pittsburgh is not is not a school. That's gonna scare me. Let's check out. Bob bob up next in mississippi. I hey bob you're on the air but yes. This is bob from madison mississippi. Let to we enjoy your show down here. Thank you. I have a question for you. I will you be on back on the sec nation. This fall that's a good question. I i think. I'll have to table that Question for a few months. Okay i second quake in its jim from tuscaloosa. Ever be back on your show That i can't answer you But i certainly am not anticipated intimidating anytime soon. Oh okay well. Let's find bomb. I really appreciate talking to you. I'm a first time caller. And i really enjoy your show. Thank you very much. And i believe the last caller mentioned wattle. I'm pretty sure he is on his way out of here. Great conversation we are speaking of alabama and it has been a very alabama centric program. Nick saban speaking in tuscaloosa and we are going to listen in on that coming up here in just a moment. You're listening to the paul finebaum show. Podcast we welcome you back here on national signing day and i realize some of you maybe just getting home or getting your car. It's been a busy day especially here on the sec network. Talking to many many coaches from nick sabin down. So let's begin listening back to some of the comments of today other seems to be the biggest day of the year when it came to recruiting but now we said a long time ago if we have an early signing data over kind of become the sonning date and i think that's kind of what's happened but we have fifteen of the players that we signed in december here on campus already which is a huge advantage for them and for us to be able to help them develop this semester academically and from a football standpoint but You're always pleased I don't think anybody's over. Said they're not pleased with recruiting class that they have but in this case. I think we got a lot of really good players and we got players in positions of need. You know we've obviously lost some really good wide receivers in the last two years and i think we have a pretty good group from that standpoint. It's always great to get a a quality quarterback We've got some big folks on both sides of the line We needed to add up the secondary. So we're able to do that. I think we got some guys that can rush the passer which is always something it's You know intriguing for you defensively to have multiple guys that can play those different roles on third down so You know we think we got pretty good players and you know we'll see how they developed which is always the key. I think you know for college. Football players was. How do they develop coach. You said you got most of the class signed during the early signing period player that who wasn't signed during that period was running back kamar wheaton. Who is now officially signed dodgy. Harris moves on. You still got a lot of talent in that backfield with jase mcclellan. How does kamar wheaton fit in well. He's an outstanding player. He's got great speed You know. I always say speed kills. And he he certainly has it. I think he'll be a great complement to how we can use him In our offense relative to some of the other backs we've had you know we've always played multiple backs here So that's something that's really important for us and coach you know recruiting process is an important one. But it's just a part of the puzzle. Obviously getting great players on campus and then get him to play. Great players is a different story. And you've done an outstanding job of got through your career. I mean how do you weed through and find out the right character and locker room fits at. How much more difficult was that this year. Doing it pretty much predominantly in a dead period. Well i think that most of the players that we were able to recruit this year however we knew quite a bit about even before. Kobe showed us down in march so they'd been in camp before they'd been here on campus before we knew him. I think the question is this year. Coming up has been a much more difficult proposition. Because we haven't seen those players almost at all you know in some cases next clark lee for me. The pitch is pretty natural. Because you know this is this is obviously mama mater and benefited from my experience here for the entirety of my career. But this is about why not vanderbilt. This is about a place where you don't have to compromise. We have such unique product in this league. And it's and it speaks to the to the right kind of people when they're looking for The best both on the field and in the classroom. There's really one option. And that's that's vanderbilt. And i think as we transitioned here in college football and things become a little more transactional when you started talking about name image likeness and things like that people are going to seek that which sustains and what we offer here with this university has always offered is an educational experience that will carry a lifetime. But what we're going to build within that as a football program that demands excellence. It set high high standards and expectations and that wins on the field. And i'm excited i. It's to me when i get to take that message on the phone or eventually when we get a chance to go into living rooms. That's going to be something that energizes me. And i think if i'm doing my job well here. We're building the future leaders of our country within these walls are coach the so. Let's go to live right now. You recruiting me. i'm from alabama. Got great grades. I'm up. I'm right there. Which your best recruiting pitch if you recruiting. Somebody like meet today. Let's let's put you on the hot seat. No that's great. Listen the the first thing. Is this vanderbilt. Football is the biggest guarantee college. Football right. this program is gonna deliver you two levels of success that you and i sitting in this living room now can't even imagine we're going to build a program that puts all the resources in the force of this university behind your experience when you think about the power of that brand behind you. There's no way you can't reach your highest level but even if we fall short of your goals on the field or when you're when you're career finishes as as you reach the nfl and go beyond that career we're going to set you up not only with the network that's going to support you longtime and allow you to continue to earn to take harry family and continued to impact our society. But you're also going to have the skills you know. We believe that education is not just about the degree. You're education's abound engagement and just like anything. What you invest in it. You will get back in return. And so not only. Are you going to experience that on that campus but this football program is going to be an education as well in the work we do within our walls is going to be important. It's going to be something that you carry with you for a lifetime. And so we we believe in building pros here we this is. This is the place to build a pro football career. Because you're going to learn to do things at a high level that are hard and when you hear that you're going to add value to organizations no matter what those organizations may be next. He lied drink which the state of missouri we're able to keep nine players inside the state In and our top ranked guys inside the state and in for us. That's where it's always gotta start We've got to hammer home our footprint in the state of missouri. And get those guys here first and then you know. Obviously you go out to where you've had success before we've had good success with espy and several others from the state of florida. And so we we. We dipped into florida. Got some guys. We dipped into tennessee and got some guys You know so so. Been able to to continue to expand our footprint. Thought we had an ice did a nice job getting into denver colorado and getting art and walker of a very good defensive linemen. we really feel like an impact. The game john jones and other guy that we got out of texas and other defensive lineman that we feel like can impact the game so Did a nice job of really staying within our footprint establishing those pipelines coach. You're a unique and difficult position of trying to put together your first full class. While being in a dead period the entire timing. How did you just to that. And you know we're looking forward. How is it putting together a class now. Starting to think about numbers with academic freeze through the ncaa transfers every piece. All those things together. I mean the very first thing. I challenged our staff co would hit. Was we have to be creative. And we had to be creative and how we created the experience for these guys to come on campus whether or not it was a virtual tour or however other ways that we could do that explore whatever avenue we could within the ncaa rules to be creative to create that experience so that they could Have a sense of what it would be like to be a student athlete. Here at columbia they would have a sense of what it's like to play For these great fans at ferraro field in that was really what we did And we were able to connect You know with the parents with the players To create those connections that ultimately led to sign in these players. And so i think creativity was number one. You know as we navigate moving forward. I think we all have to be flexible. it's really going to put a squeeze on this twenty two class and we're going to have to next job of managing our rosters In how we go about you know bringing people back letting players continue to graduate but maybe move on somewhere else in in all those things but You know. I challenge our staff. Let's let's worry about first things first. Let's get these guys on campus. Let's develop these players Let's have a twenty one season In in and then go from there last year at signing period we we had no idea what was so who knows what the new challenges will be this year next. Step shane. beamer. The vibe in this building. It's a place i think i believe our players enjoy coming into each and every day. I know our coaches have enjoyed being around each other as well and we. We did a little bit here in a short period of time and can't wait to see what this task going to be able to accomplish going forward when we have a full year to recruit and sell this place coach when i watch you and all the publicity and everything that's been going on down there i can't imagine you've been given the keys and the full of the longest lease of anybody. You're your your president. The former players of all in cassette. So many great things about you. And how you are is such a great person when it comes to selling and being a part of the south carolina program. How does that continue to grow now that you have the foundation you have the keys and everybody is just talking about how great of a person you are in a leader of men has the ultimate compliment of that has to be so humbling for you. Not very much is a mentioned before during this whole process was so hopeful that this opportunity would work out. But i told my wife one day back in oklahoma that if it didn't work out i was i was going to be absolutely crushed of a good one. I've said publicly. This is my dream job. I'm in it as a family. And but i told her i said if it doesn't work out i'll be crushed but it's just been so rewarding for me as a person to hear from so many guys like connor. Shaw marcus lattimore. Alshon jeffery you know those guys that reached out to melvin ingram during the process and just told stories about my time here and into me roman. I wasn't doing anything special. That was just trying to treat people right and and stay humble. And and that's what i try to do my entire career and and i think now's we go forward people see what a special place this is. Why had such a strong desire to come back to south carolina and now going forward hopefully will be able to open these doors back up and have a packed williams brice stadium in the fall so people can see what an amazing passionate fanbase. We have fear in before that. Hopefully we'll be able to open things back from a recruiting standpoint where we can get young men and their families on this campus to see what an amazing football program we have and what we're building but then also would an amazing and beautiful university in city. We have the live also and go to school there. Show a compilation of what has happened already today. On national signing days pretty much over we will continue to talk about that more guests to come as we head for the final hour here in a few minutes. It is wednesday and thanks for being a part of the show. You're listening to the paul finebaum. Show podcast welcome back nicole back only a few minutes as we wrap up our number three. Let's check out bob who is up next in georgia. Hey bob how you doing well. Thank you listen sam. Bailey was coach brian. Help for a d. did you get that name. Thank you know. I i i could see sam. I just couldn't remember his last name but Thank you for sharing that. Not a listen. Do you know of a writer by the name of joseph goodman. Yes joseph fairly. Well well did you see the headline. He had out here tennessee. The only loser on national signing day. I have not seen what what was it about. It's about as recruit a kid. Didn't it's an oxford alabama rock taylor. Yeah he he apparently committed to tennessee. And i don't know there may be more to that story. I really don't have the whole short. But i know that he withdrew from tennessee withdrew from the offer yesterday. His coach oxford's of big time football a high school. Football power in alabama apparently was very upset and said he would never send player tennessee again. Yeah the coach keith. Eldridge threw him under the bus. Big time and relationship to this thing. I just wondered if you knew if it was pretty accurate because of the reporter. 'cause you know and i know what happens with people saying what they say and i just wondered if if that was a true story now it did happen but you know i will will say this in defense of of the university of tennessee bob. We don't know whether there were mitigating circumstances. And i there may have been nothing other than they didn't want him but there are also could have been an issue so we'll we'll dig a little deeper. I'll i'll call. We had we had we had goodman's boss on earlier. John paul t and he did mention the stories. So we'll look into how about that. That's great. I'd like to hear about it because if he did he really. You know i'm not at fantasy fan but I want him to be presentable. I guess is the best word. I can come up with. Because if they're not it makes the whole conference with that anyway. Thanks have a great. Thank you very very much. Michael is up next. Hey michael you're on the air. All right had very how are you this. You were talking about The bear bryant story against georgia tech guy the forum. So i did some research and looked at it and listening to you for years. Now you covered brat bryant. A little bit but sec. What is your opinion. Brian is a man and then football coach winds that where was despicable. Was he straight up and getting a bad rap or what. Well let me start by saying this michael I covered coach bryan. And i was in his office a number of times but i was in no position to really know him very well. I was a young a obnoxious sports reporter and he was the greatest coach of all time. However i do know many many people who knew him were close friends family members and i i happen to think paul bryant as a man while while however however flawed was a great man who who who desperately wanted to help people and influence a state in a country in ways that we've never seen before one last quick question from the research that i did after you said that on the show yesterday. Was that the reason. The georgia tech left the sec. Because he wouldn't apologize. Yeah i do believe it had seventy i. I believe it had something to do with it. We'll get into that in a minute. Hey thank you for the call. Thank you for listening to the paul finebaum. Show podcast the paul finebaum. Show airs weekdays on the sec network beginning at three eastern. Do you own or rent your home. Sure you do. Fortunately geico makes it easy to bundle your home and car insurance. It's a good thing too because having a home is hard work. Give co dot com. Get a quote and see how much you could save. Geico dot com easy.

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Hour 2: College Football in Peril

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Hour 2: College Football in Peril

"We're back on get up and how about this moment from yesterday nationals hosting the Orioles Man. That's grounds crew having some technical difficulties getting the TORP on the field. That starting pitcher Stephen Strasburg said I don't know if you can call it a rain delay more of a tarp until eight. The game was suspended. It will resume at Baltimore. On Friday. Meanwhile this is something that I'm very excited about how about that picture greedy I'm back on the radio starting a week from today noon Eastern Coast to coast will also simulcast on ESPN news I'll be back with you on the radio for two hours every afternoon starting one week from today. Again, I'm on noon to two eastern time than Max. Kellerman will take over two hours from two to four that. That should be a lot of fun. We can compare suits and other things of sports conversation and he'll be followed by dynamic new team should go McKay and Mike Golic Junior, who will be outstanding starting weekdays. Four o'clock. Eastern on ESPN radio shows will be simulcast on ESPN news. I'm very much looking forward to that, or we'll have plenty of time to talk it between now and then, but right. Right now is not that time as I, welcome you in top of the hour Mike Greenberg in Bristol, get up on ESPN on a very, very significant day developing news this morning from the world of college football where the plug may be pulled on the fall season more discussions will be held today after the commissioners of the power five conferences held an emergency meeting yesterday to discuss the possibility of. Of cancelling or postponing the fall sports season. This hangs in the balance. Literally as we speak in. As you can see, we have a terrific group put together here, and that's just the beginning. We will have Desmond Jalen, and Davis, and more as the our continues. But Heather Dench, we start with you and all the information. What are the most important things? College football fans need to don't right now. The conference commissioners of the power five met yesterday, and while there were no decisions made multiple sources throughout those conferences have told the ESPN that they want to have some sort of collaborative effort on this. Now, it's starting with the Big Ten and PAC twelve. It's important to know that ESPN learned through sources that the majority of big ten presidents are in favor of postponing or cancelling the season. They're not sure if everyone else is ready to go along with that right now, we are watching the PAC twelve because they're university presidents are expected to meet on Tuesday and be presented with some significant medical information from their medical advisory board that could be extremely important in how they determine if. If the season will be played or not. So the Big Ten and PAC twelve at least from our sources appear to be the ones leading the charge and the university presidents are the ones who are making these decisions. Not The commissioners I'm told there on eggshells about the unknowns of the possible term implications of the corona virus on the heart. The question is if the big twelve SEC and ACC would want to go along with them or if they're hand would be forced to if that happened the partial answer to what is my next question heather. If indeed, the decision is ultimately made to significantly postpone or cancel the season when you boil it down, what will the reason be? It would be because of the medical advisory boards on each of these conferences saying look, it is no longer in the best interest of the student athlete to go forward this. I. Have said from the beginning that the corona virus, the governor's state local medical health experts. These are the ones who are dictating the decisions. The university presidents will have the final call and I have been told they are on egg shells about the unknowns. So regardless of if. If the players want to play regardless of what they want to do in terms of the pack twelve or the The sec excuse me the ACC, the big twelve. It is the university president who had the final authority over this, and there are grave concerns right now about myocarditis a heart condition. Yes. We saw that come into play in a situation in baseball, and we'll see if there are others one more for you have quickly and that would be. I feel like you're telling me that the conferences want to be united, but they are not really unified in their goals or at least their beliefs right now is that a reasonable way to put it and if so then what should we expect to happen? They're on different pages I. think that's fair to say that look not everybody is ready to pull the Plug Jackson Warwick. Notre. Dame's athletic director. Told me yesterday my view is if we change course, we better be able to articulate a reason for doing so to our student athletes, there are People Shane Lyons West Virginia said no one has talked about a plan if the season is canceled and we can't look at our coaches and players and say I don't know if this happens. There are a lot of unanswered questions. The question is if the to power five conferences, the big ten in the pack twelve, decide to go ahead with this and either cancel or postpone. Would the others follow them and I think that's what a lot of those meetings. This week are about every presidential group and all power five conferences between now, and Thursday are supposed to be meeting to talk about this. All of this is developing around us. As we speak, Paul Finebaum as we take all of this in as someone who lives in a world filled with college football every day of the year, what are your thoughts? It's just frustrating to to think about this. Now, the the college football leaders, Greenie are looking for some explanation about why they may shut down the season. The explanation is they never had a plan they have been clueless from the beginning. They've told US repeatedly, how collaborative they have been from. MIDDLE, March until the middle of the summer. Well, they have not been because the big ten went off on its own, the rest of the conferences have been. been scrambling, there's not leadership from the NCWA and the complete in at the end of the day complete mess and ultimately there will be a domino effect if the big ten in the pack twelve shut down, Sec, the big twelve in the ACC are going to have a very difficult time saying, well, the hard issues up in the big ten in the pack twelve don't apply or not applicable us. They will all fold up tent if to do. How do you have a college football playoff with three of the five? It's completely shatters the system, and ultimately in Booger, McFarland made this comment earlier today. It's not only the problems with players speaking out which they don't want to hear, and they really don't WanNA listen to in spite of what they say. It's the liability issue. I, think the lawyers, every university and every conference, we're going to be the last line. Defense that when when the commissioners finally walk down the hall of the President's finally walked down the hall and say the General Counsel, can we afford to do it and I think most of will say, no, we can't afford billion dollar lawsuit that's ultimately going to shut this down. So there are so many different factors involved here, and so many of them involve money you would like to think and do believe that people do genuinely have the best interests. Interests of these young people, these young men at heart. But there were financial considerations and that can't be overlooked with that as the backdrop. Dan Laos come to you as a player and one whom I as I've gotten. No you. I know how much you love the sport much. It has meant to you and your life and how much college football means to you to this day. As you hear this whole conversation, what thought go through your mind. Greedy one. Why does every conference have their own medical advisory board? Because there could be differing opinions like what happens if one conference medical advisory board says x and another conferences says y who are we to believe what conference you know like? What what conferences opinion of their medical board gets weighed more heavily, there should be one uniform board controlling all of the conferences and communicating to all the conferences, what the medical reality of it too. So that's that's an issue. issue. Number two in heather mentioned that there might be some significant medical information coming forward. This is not some information that you should keep to yourself like this is not a contest to see who can get it I. If one conference gets significant medical information than every conference, need that information and they're all should make their decisions upon that, and then I think the heathers comment of the coaches and. And players have any concern of if the season is canceled, there's no plan. That's a big deal. Kyla. Hill has sent out a tweet. Kyla Hill is one of the best tailbacks in America. He's the tailback Mississippi State. He sent out a tweet saying I don't WanNa. Go back, home I, want to have football season because I know what it will look like if I don't, there's a reality to. To that, and so if they are going to cancel the season, they better make sure that the student athletes stay on campus and allow them to have the complete care that is set up for them. If the season was the case and the use of facilities, there's a reality to this stat. These players are scared for what could happen if they don't have that structure of college football. So. There's a lot going on right now, the lack of leadership is embarrassing the lack of leadership in the NCWA is embarrassing that we've had to rely on twenty year olds to kind of pushes to the forefront, and now it's in the face of all the president administrators, Booger McFarland. Again, I feel Beckett sort of run down your credentials. You're one of the top host we had on the SEC network. Forever, you played at Lsu, you know this stuff backwards and forwards, what in your mind? What are the most important things in this discussion? What I'm thinking of the day, Greenie I think we have to make decisions that are going to be in the best interest of the people that are actually going to be playing because they can't make those decisions and those are the student athletes and today is point about what are these kids going to do? We often referred a college football players as student. Student athletes well, guess what if they can't be an athlete and fall? Just go be a student. Okay. Well, that's in person if you're university has that whether it's own line, just going to be a student. Okay. Go be a student a BB responsible student and adhere to whatever the code is at your particular university. So Greenie, this is a very complex. Complex, situation and ultimately I laugh because we're talking about a football game, we're talking about lean football. This is a game. You know when you make it to the NFL, you get hated King's ransom to play a child's game, but we've turned this into big business and that's the reason why every talk show in America, that's the reason why we're talking about. About it because this is not just a game, this isn't two hand touch it to park. This isn't flag football. This is big boy business coaches are making eight, nine, ten, million dollars a year, and a lot of people's lives are going to be affected by the decisions that people ultimately make into Paul's point. I think you can talk every coach in. In America, you can talk the ad, but this comes down to the University of blank, blank blank, university. And they have to go down the hall and they have to talk to those lawyers and they say, can we afford if this happens? Can we afford it and that's where the buck is GonNa stop and I feel for the kids because if I were. were seventeen or eighteen. I WOULD WANNA play, but you know what? I'm not thinking about it seventeen or eighteen. I'm not thinking about what it's going to be like when I get thirty thirty, five years on the long-term term ramifications and unfortunately greenie somebody's gotTa make those decisions and I think those decisions are going to be made with the money that we. We all are thinking about in my an automated I. Think the season is GonNa be postponed or cancelled, and ultimately all gotta live with. We will have to live with that and we have to find another way to entertain ourselves own Saturday. Yeah. We all know that football players going to want to play some times to use an analogy from an entirely. Entirely. Different area if to take their helmet away and I'm not suggesting that that's what they need to do. Now, I'm not I don't know enough of the details that are in all of this, but that would be the analogy I would. I would think of Heather, do know all the details on all of this? Give you the final word heather dench. I WANNA follow up on a point that Dan made because many many people ask where is the leadership from the NCWA Double A. and I've asked NCW president. Marc. Emery that and his response cannot be czar of college football. It's impossible because you're talking about division, one, division two division three spread from coast to coast, and the reason, all of these power five conferences do have their own medical advisory boards is because college football is a microcosm of what we're seeing from the pandemic throughout the entire country as far as a state by state response. Response. That's why we're talking about the PAC twelve because it's different there because of their schools in California and Arizona and the impact that the virus specifically has had on those states where you can't throw a dart without missing USC STANFORD CAL UCLA Arizon-, Arizona State. They are in a hotspot, which is why their particular medical advisers and doctors are saying to them hold on a minute because this isn't good. It's an incredibly important point. I'm glad that you made it. Paul Finebaum. I changed my mind. You get the last word having just heard that. I want to say one thing we're we talk like nobody has been infected yet greenie that all these things that are going to happen once we start to football season may affect these young men for the rest of their lives. Countless players have already been affected and infected I. Mean we've heard reports Clemson, lsu thirty, five, forty. I've heard a prominent school in the country has more than fifty or sixty. So the problems already they're. Ending, the season's not going to solve those young people who have already been infected seems like everyone's getting concerned a little bit too late. But that's college athletics in one more point about what Heather said about. Mark Emmer. It's easy for Mark Emmerick to pass the buck, but he's the single most influential person at least image wise and perceptively in the system in intercollegiate athletics, and he hasn't offered one thing. He has been a complete embarrassment and part of this is his fault because he has not spoken out. He has not said anything but passing the buck. Dan I can see you're you're egging to get in here I got fifteen seconds go. Listen, you're I don't care if you're in hot spot or not. Like there is either medical information that is significant. Long term impacts from this virus on the health are not, and if that's the case, the decision is very easy. Make the right one. If that's the case hotspot or not. That's why we need significant leadership. Twelve, I don't know why said egging itching to get in or I was egging you on I somehow. Egging get in and and obviously that's not English. Meanwhile, as we continue what happens on. Saturdays, if college football is cancel Adam Schefter has very significant reporting on that. It's something you will find interesting and important to you will join us next and then then later, but the college football season on the brink desmond, Howard Jalen rose, Reese Davis will join us to talk about it. That's at the bottom of this hour nine thirty am as we continue, get up on ESPN. We are back in a moment for golf. I. Insist we talk about golf that's brought to you is ziprecruiter and I do because yesterday was Sunday at a major and there isn't anything better than that. Tiger Woods is general rule would like to see him playing late in the day on Sundays and said, he was playing early because he couldn't buy a Friday or Saturday played a lot better. Yesterday was good. Thursday was good, Sunday. Sunday there is on the par-three seventeen. He would make that for Birdie, who would shoot a three-under sixty, seven yesterday finish one under for the weekend, not a factor, but maybe something to build on going forward. Meanwhile, yesterday was wild at one point. They were eight players tied for the lead on the back nine of a major and the one who pulled away was this man twenty, three year old Colin, Morikawa, from Los Angeles. Northern California yesterday in his homestate. 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Meanwhile, I'd love to spend more time talking about that, but we have major developing news this morning as the plug maybe pulled on the fall college football season at some point soon, more discussions being held today after the commissioners of the power five conferences held an emergency meeting yesterday to discuss the possibility. Of cancelling or postponing the fall sports season, we've been talking about it a lot this morning and Adam schefter. Our NFL, insider extraordinaire has something that I think, NFL fans, all sports fans will find a very interesting part of the story shefty. Go walgreens, NFL sitting back and waiting to see how this all unfolds in college football. I think there has been some thought given to the idea that if If, college, football goes away. Nobody wants that to happen. But if it does the NFL then after I think baseball wraps up in late October in the NBA mid October and hockey in early October. In the presidential election, there will be a span. There will be nothing else on the sports calendar, but the NFL, the NFL already controls the sports calendar, but it's possible. It could move even more games. Games to Saturday. Another is a sports broadcast Dak that was brought into place that will prevent Friday. Night Games made an early in the season, but there are exceptions that are made to that act in two thousand five. When Hurricane Welna, it Florida, they moved up the dolphins chiefs game to a Friday night. We're living through a global pandemic, and so this potentially could be an exception. We'll see how. How the League views that there's always the possibility that the Lee could flex some of its games and again as teams prepare on short notice, they do it for the playoffs teams wrap up on a Sunday and then they schedule game Saturday, and Sunday the next week. No reasonably could move some games to Saturday afternoon Saturday night primetime and take an even bigger slice of the sports calendar Pie. Incredibly, important point, and again, one that I think all fans will find interesting. The possibility if there is no college football that those windows if he will on television could be filled and you bought the point earlier shefty. There aren't fans travelling to these games aren't fans going to these games for most part to it's not really negatively impacting anyone unless it negatively impacts the players, booger. Is there any problem with that from a player's standpoint, the? NFL possibly moving games even to Friday's. No, not at all Greenie in to stand we. Been discussed with Thursday night football saying the amount of that players get hasn't been adequate enough, but I get it. Usually, teams only had to play one Thursday night game. You put games on a Friday night or Saturday night, and I know ahead of time and I came plan my week and I knew exactly what I'm doing when I have to do X. Y Z to prepare for that game. I think it'd be great players love. Love standalone games. Players love to be the only one on TV. That way everyone around the country is watching on Monday or Thursday or Saturday greedy. So other than a maybe a day or two lack of rest, I can't think of any negative thing that would that would really deter the NFL from doing that. If there's no college football season Daniel be hosting NFL live for us this year, you're ready for Friday night. NFL, action. Did you know gyco is now offering an extra fifteen percent credit on car and motorcycle policies? That's fifteen percent on top of what Geico could already save you. So what are you waiting for baby to let you sleep in? A. Sleeping in another half hour day. Thanks Sweetheart. And you'll change yourself to. There's never been a better time to switch to geico save an extra fifteen percent when you switch by October seventh limitations apply visit GEICO DOT COM for details. It's your home speaking and you to do me a couple of favors. 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If indeed, there are all these vacancies and television schedules, there are very few things preventing the NFL for moving into them as we continue the very latest on this developing story conference commissioners moving closer to cancelling four all sports including Football Desmond Howard Reese. Davis. And Jalen will jump in with their thoughts as we continue next, get them on ESPN. We are back on get up and this developing story is source telling ESPN THAT ACC athletic directors are meeting this morning amid growing concern that the college football season could be halted before it even begins commissioners with the power five conferences held an emergency meeting yesterday to discuss that possibility, and we have been getting perspective on this all morning long, and here they are the stars of our Primary College football show. College. Game. Day Reese Davis and Desmond Howard with us here. I would like to hear your thoughts as obviously you were falling. This is closely as anybody we've had heather with all of our information this morning, what is your perspective? As we wake up this morning and feel like the college football season really may be hanging in the balance. Greenie. I think the biggest thing that I tried to get to with several people I spoke with last night is what caused the sudden about face? It was just a couple of days ago that we were releasing schedules and getting specific about how games will be played, and then all of a sudden this pivoted to the power five conferences considering not play. It's really the first time that is let me. Feeling pessimistic about the season actually occurring from the very beginning you and I have spoken about this. I've felt as if somehow some way that. The game would be able to be played and hopefully safely there are so many. Additional issues to this about how the testing is being conducted. The quasi bubbles, maybe for lack of a better term that most of these players are in at least at the highest level of the of the games in weather. That is an acceptable way to try to limit the spread on on campus there, there are a lot of issues, but it seems that college football of the leaders in that sport had determined that this was of course of action they can undertake. The pivot surprise me a little bit at least how quick we have pivoted due to the potential for shutting it down. What answers were you able to get? Those are the right questions. How did it go from the big ten releasing their schedule on Wednesday to their? Apparently, they're presidents having conversation on Saturday morning talking about canceling the season. What answers have you gotten? I'm not sure any that we're totally definitive. But one thing that seems to have popped up is that maybe the fact the ten was attempting or is emptying to start play a little earlier than than some of the other conferences which necessitated going into pads a little earlier which perhaps. You know made them more nervous, and then you have the other issues i. think there's been a player in that conference at Indiana who has heads and cardiac issues that they believe. There's been linked to his positive corona virus test and case that he has dealt with, and all of those things I think bring into other questions because her obviously, there's still a lot of things that we don't know about the virus, but then there's also quite a bit of data that. Shows that young people that age are not as susceptible. So the question becomes Greenie, once responsible. What's right? What responsibilities to the institutions have to let the public about what they discovered at least in terms of their testing. So all of those things I think are are factors, and perhaps for making some of the president's really across the country. But particularly in the big ten, a little bit skittish, Desmond, all of us who work in this industry are on social media are hearing from some fans who were saying, well, why is it that they're able to play baseball and they're going to be able to play in the NFL and they're able to play these other sports and not college football? What? What is the right response to that question as? Well the right response to that question green is that when you look at the the Great Revenue Generating Sports, which is what college football actually is a four billion dollar industry. The power to be in college sports and college football, they have a decision made based on student athletes. Now, when you look at the NFL NBA, you look at Major League Baseball, they all these are grown men who make millions of dollars who have a union, they have a union that looks out for their best interest The players are northwestern tracker former union in two, thousand fifteen and they were denied. So the players don't have a union. They don't make any money like the professionals, but yet it's a four billion dollar industry, and so the reason why the powers that be the president's these universities they're starting to look at this differently because then if they're student athletes was NCWA, Marc Emmers been trying to push this whole amateurism for years and years. If they're student athletes that you have the thing consideration, if you're not going to have students on campus, how you going to bring the athletes on campus? Then that's a whole big problem that they don't. Don't want to address. So there's a big difference between the professional athletes in college presidents, they have to deal with the decisions that they have to make based on student athletes. So reese, if I'm a college football fan all those who were watching and and are interested in and where this is headed, what things should we be paying attention to? As this week goes on what what questions will you be asking you watch college fans paying attention to to try and figure out what's going on what happens next. I think because the big ten seems to be one that's out in front of this, even though as head Dan pointed out rightly, none of the conferences want to be the first. Nor do they want to be the last to you know to postpone or cancel the season, but I think look and see whether the season is further delayed while they decide to push the start of their season back into September that to me would indicate a willingness to at least try to continue on and push on and play. The Desmond. Your short time here. Desmond brought up a lot of a lot of very interesting points in great points in one of the things that I've raised with. Probably half dozen to ten people over the last couple of days is whether the player organizing efforts from the pack twelve and the big ten had an impact on this change of thinking, and I initially suspected that was. So at least according to the people I talk to that they certainly care about this, but it has had the impact at least in Deir judgment, the people I talked to of. Of slowing down the season, but you know the one thing that someone pointed out to me last night is that while they desmond is correct, they don't have a union. There's certainly some revenue issues green at United talked about a number of times over the years that we feel like the players should have more freedom in that regard. But at one administrator said to be last night, you said you know. We're looking out for them. He said the basketball players wanted to play the tournament this spring, and we did not think that was in their best interest. The baseball players wanted to play and we didn't think it was in their best interest. He said, and while the revenues important. I'M NOT GONNA. Lie To you pretend like it's not. He said, we are doing our best to act in the players best interest now, sure some. Some will take exception to that, but I thought it was interesting point because it was certainly some you know as it pertains to revenue, there was some revenue loss and basketball as well back in the spring or no question that is overwhelmingly outside of football where they make the makes almost all of its money guys I have to leave it there for the moment. Thank you both for your perspective. This obviously is something we'll. We'll continue to follow this morning and beyond, but I do want to get into the NBA bubble because there is a big story there, the seventy sixers dealing with major injury issues for both of their stars I. The team announces on Saturday Ben Simmons is going to undergo arthroscopic surgery on his left knee, and he is likely to miss the rest of the season. Then this happens to Joel embiid last night you sort of. Of Look, at his foot there against the standard, slightly blocked out by the graphic, but he turned his ankle in the first quarter. He played six minutes last night into not return. We'll see what that is. Maliki Andrews has been in the bubble. For us, outstanding Jalen rose's here with perspective Maliki. I will start with you. What are the sixers saying about where they go from here with both of their superstars momentarily down. Well they're still hoping that for Joel Embiid, it's going to be something short term rather than what Ben Simmons is facing, which is definitely long-term. But greenie Brett Brown has this saying, he says, it's all about how the plane lands on April fourteenth. Well, now, April fourteenth is August seventeenth, and what he's saying is it is all about how we are playing and how healthy we. We are when we get to the playoffs. So in terms of how healthy they are there in a little bit of trouble here Brown is saying look we need to rely more on Al Horford. He knows he needs to emerge step up for us if we are going to have a chance to make a run in these playoffs and also they're looking their guards, they're. They're looking for Alec burks or looking for guys like that to continue to step up like they did against the blazers even though Damian Lillard went off for fifty one points. That is what they're going to need to have even a chance to continue to push forward and they know that they know the uphill battle that they have to face here. I'm so Jalen this this. This is something that we have been talking about from the moment. We launched this show, and before that the process as we look in this thing, coming to what appears to be potentially a screeching halt in the bubble I. Know you've never been a huge fan of the of the combination of Embiid and Simmons and your opinion, is it time now to break them up? Is Tom Considerate Greenie just think about it like this this time last year Damian Lillard in the playoffs showdown. Oklahoma. City Thunder, broke their team up to the point where Paul. George is not what clippers in Russell Westbrook is. Now what the Houston Rockets did you see the Oklahoma City Thunder got for Paul George when they traded him to the clippers they got. Got So many first round picks, and of course, you don't want to just give up on. Deng superstar in Joel Embiid when healthy and Ben Simmons and all NBA performer. But those two players are your best value play, and of course, if you surround those guys with thirteen verses of Jj Rettig, they'll be able to knock down shots but in salary cap. With both of those guys are still under Max contracts. Tobias Harris has one hundred, eighty million dollar contract, al. Horford has one hundred million dollar contract. The only way you're going to be able to get some maximum changing your Rosser is to one of your best gas off for those players are still under contract for the next couple of seasons. This is the team and I, appreciate Maliki professionalism going deeper to the box score and telling Telling me all of the great, the shape Milton can do and some great. These role players can do. The best thing they could do be in the east because if they were not in eastern conference, they did not play up the expert cases. They wouldn't be in a place first off second without Joel embiid. I. Don't Care What Plane Brown flying there get eliminated the first. US That's very well put I. Need One more thing from the two of you while I have you here, and that involves my twitter poll this morning which turned out not to be quite as compelling amongst everyone who voted in it as I expected it to be. So these four players are all twenty one or younger of the four of them, Zion a Luca trae young. John. Rant. Again, twenty one or younger Jalen rose, and you can cast your vote on on Espn Greenie on twitter Jalen rose. If you're picking one of those guys to start your franchise with which one you taking. I want to go with shooting. So that leaves Luca and trae young the you WanNa go with height Lucas Taller their trae, young John, Moran Shoots, Way Better Than Zion, any breaks down the floor and makes everyone around him better. Clear answers. The guy that has given US thirty plus points in his last couple of games wanted those games gave us over twenty bores. The most recent game nineteen assists. That's Lucas dodges WHO's basically Basically led this mass team to a playoff spot. All of those other guys have amazing promise shot the Jaama Ramp Alina not in points and an assist and I believe they would have made the playoffs at Jaren Jackson. You heard they need to give trae young some help down in. ATLANTA. where he shown es superstar Potential Unlimited Range in Zion, Greenie, I hate to remind you of something, but the Pelicans didn't make the playoffs. When the Pelicans don't make the playoffs. Jalen gets a Taylor suit from one Michael Greenberg and I got a new show coming out congratulations at twelve noon so. Having, sue shells shouldn't be no problem buying one man Assu. Okay. So I. I was wondering if you'd be too big man to bring that up the day that it happened obviously not. So we talk about that. But interested that time that I have remaining here, Maliki. This question when I put it on twitter, and then it's a runaway over eighty percent of the people voting for Luca. What? What of conversations are you hearing amongst the people down there in the bubble? Greenie I pose this exact question when I knew it was coming up on the show to a couple of folks around the League, and I'm sorry to say that they also did not believe that it was in any way, a tough question, Luca Danni, it's finished in the GM poll at the beginning of the season as one of the three players that folks wanted to build around that. GM's wanted to build around only one of those players on that list while all of them are talented is going to finish top five MVP MVP voting, that is Luca Danni, and so you will. You will not find a GM who wouldn't want to build a franchise around him. Fair. Fair enough. The whole thing was a runaway. Maliki. Outstanding. Thank you, Jalen. Stay close. I WanNa ask you about this college football stuff as we continue and I want to make sure that everyone is aware that coming up later from the Disney bubble. It's possible preview of the Eastern. Conference finals, the box of the one seed, the raptors, the two they played tonight, six thirty eastern on ESPN and the ESPN APP. Our coverage begins with NBA countdown at six. Meanwhile, ten, a matter of days. How did we go from schedules being released to college football on the brink of cancellation? We will have the very latest on this story as we continue in just a moment you're watching get. On ESPN. Back with our developing story, this morning on get up commissioners of the power five conferences held an emergency meeting yesterday amid growing concern among college athletics, officials that the upcoming football season and other fall sports won't be able to be played because of the coronavirus pandemic. Again, the college football season is on the brink. Heather. Is Back with us here. So much of reporting heather has come from you. So I would finish up your portion this morning by asking you, what are you watching next? What should college football fans we paying attention to? As this develops over the course of the day and the week. The. Big. Ten and the PAC twelve tomorrow I. Think are the two things watch? We reported last night that the majority of big ten presidents have expressed that they would be in favor of cancelling or postponing this season. So they turn to the PAC twelve presidents are meeting on. Tuesday. I'm expecting that they are presented with some medical information from their medical advisory board that will be key in determining whether or not. They decide to cancel or postpone the season. So if those two leagues make a move, then the question is do the rest of. Of the Dominos Fall. Okay. So obviously, you'll be keeping an eye on that four US and we'll be keeping an eye on you. Thank you very much. Outstanding, work all day long. I. Want to bring this quad back in here and Jalen. We've not had a chance to hear from you yet on this. But of course, you played a different sport at the very highest level on the college level and you obviously follow this closely. What is your reaction to this possibility? The college football season, perhaps about to be cancelled because of the coronavirus. Mike. So very many. I would love to see collegiate football this year in Dan and booger and Greenie know y'all can't wait to see Michigan beat Ohio State. but I don't anticipate the seizing taking place, and the reason why is if you're not going to put the players in a bubble and they're gonNA travel from city to city playing against one another, they're going to be multiple cases continuing to happen look at what's happening with Major, League Baseball. The same thing is going to happen with the NFL. You cannot ignore science, but here's the difference to professional players. Understand that there are millions of dollars at stake right now in my bank account. So therefore, I'm willing to take that risk as a collegiate athlete that is not able to go to a campus is sit in a classroom. Why would I put myself in a position for not only cast a corona virus, but the after effects that come with the corona virus to play collegiate football when they're not gonNA help me and they're not gonNA guarantee my insurance in any way shape or form. So I don't anticipate collegiate football season being played under these circumstances. Let me go to your fellow Michigan man here, Dez. What's what's your reaction? Well agree with Jalen. Cinema's about Michigan beat no House Day. I do agree with that part I. Think he makes some very good. Points you know, is about the the medical information that's coming through this coming down the pipeline. I tell you what Kevin warned the Commissioner of the big ten back in July July ninth. When they made the announcement, they will only go to conference only schedule. He had said that you know we also prepare not to play the season if the information dictates that and then saying, we will go along with what we get advice. We get from our medical experts, my good friend, David sailor the. MIAMI, of Ohio saying that the MAC had decided to cancel their season because the overwhelming evidence they get, it was a unanimous vote to cancel the season the season because of the medical information they get from their experts. So it just seems that this point Greenie, the pivot was made from. Schedule that was released last week. Then a couple of days. Later, we postponed the council, the whole season based on medical information that the big teen is getting at they received. So I believe that these menas is GonNa, go on because respiratory issues or cardiac issues that that that people who have tested positive initially, but then eventually tested negative that they've suffered afterwards. Afterwards is the reason why I think they're starting to pivot towards not having season. A booger McFarland. You've used the word liability on the show many times this morning and it's it's a word. No one enjoys hearing because it's the least fun part of anything, but it may be Bogor to the point. You've made this morning, the most important piece of all of this. Without a doubt Greenie I think. On the surface playing football is fun. Playing football would be a lot of entertainment for us, but behind the scenes when it comes to the liability, somebody's got to be responsible. If something catastrophic happens. If something catastrophic happens down the road, Greenie, think about the NFL, the players sued the NFL for billions of dollars because they basically said, you know what? We didn't know the rich of what boring out there. Playing football at this level would do to us and nobody told us in the NFL said, okay yeah. You kind of got a point there. We gotta pay billions of dollars and so everybody understands people have seen it. Now, you come to college football who by all? Accounts they aren't as rich as the NFL. They don't have the billions of dollars that the NFL does, and now you having each member institution saying, can we deal with that? Can we deal with having a billion dollar lawsuit by multiple players against US ingredient quite frankly to the answer is no. So at the end of the day, I, understand we all WANNA play we all WanNa. WanNa Watch, but the buck stops the person that's responsible for the biggest of dollars at the universities have to issue out in this case, and that will be the lawyers and I don't think they're going to sign off on this Dan Orlovsky. A final thought from you. I can feel your passion all morning long I. Know How much this means to you? What are your thoughts? Where's the transparency? Where's the transparency from these conferences? Desmond brings up a great point that Miami Ohio in the Mac decided to not play their season because of the overwhelming evidence they had with the coronavirus. Are they the only conference that has there's evidence is. Like, they had the evidence to make that decision the how does every other conference not follow suit with that same information? That's where I'm asking. Where's transparency gave them brings up the point of if these these college athletes don't WanNa play. I think a lot of them do, but I think what we're seeing a lot of them going, we WANNA play. But if there is transparency, if we're make sure there were medically covered and we're going to get taken care of and not only just the star player Trevor Lawrence, but everybody is going to get taken care of the right way they. That's where we're seeing these stars stand out and. Say, is this. Are we going to cancel the season for cases or the long term potential because we got data that says cases don't necessarily right now affect his age group drastically. But if there's information that comes out that there's a long-term concern about this, this conversation is over like if the conversation is over, if that is the situation. Now, this was a day that we really could've used three or four jailing final thought go. Well, the last part of what you said Dan and I love you very much. That's not accurate because the cases of young people have been the numbers are extremely high in the lingering effects for those cases could be damaging in the future. Yeah. That's one of the things they have in. Turn absolutely. I, would love to again. This is day we could have us four hours, but I take is gonNA come along and they will be talking about this and just GonNa few minutes they'll have two hours with their perspective Max Stephen Continuing the discussion on the fate of college football this four that's I. It's less than five minutes away or just five minutes and change away right here on ESPN. Tonight another ESPN two WNBA double header for you from the IMG bubble in Bradenton. Florida, you'll see a riquet grumble wally and Nick Greiner. In the early game, there was the mercury take on the wings. Then you will see the storm and the sky in the nightcap starting at nine eastern time. That's tonight on ESPN two very quickly. Let me show you the results of my poll. This was not I. expected this to be close, eighty, four percent of you say if you were starting a team with one of these stars twenty one or younger, you'd start it with Luca Danni the conversation about college football continues with I ache here on ESPN right now.

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WV Senator warns against electing Caputo - "a complete socialist nut"

Tom Roten Morning Show

29:22 min | 7 months ago

WV Senator warns against electing Caputo - "a complete socialist nut"

"WBZ A online eight, hundred W. Dot. com. Wednesday morning September twenty third twenty twenty forty nine right now Milton at seven. Oh Four. Thank you for tuning in and what a welcome back to the program Republican State Senator Eric Target Morning Sir. Good Morning Tom How are you today? I'm doing great. Appreciate you coming on I I'd seen where you had been speaking about the Blm stickers on West Virginia Mountaineer Helmets and wanted to get your thoughts on that because you've got that situation you've got West Virginia basketball apparently leaked from one report I saw putting black lives matter on the on the floor of the Coliseum we're hearing from a Marshall University professor on Zoom. She hopes all trump supporters get covert and die What do you make this this and should these universities who allowed this to continue receive taxpayer dollars? Well I would I would rephrase that is that universities that receive taxpayer dollars should not be. Engaging this kind of behavior. And I think Jerry. Gilbert, Data Marshall has even said as as much when he came out opposing S and is starting texting action did take smack in and I think is contained take some action with that regards. But my Is the whole continuum of the events. and where it could end up if we don't come out and say, this is not acceptable. So in something to distinguish you know there, there are a lot of people that. Are. are favorable to or within. What they consider to be black lives matters movement. Whose you know their their intentions and their heart is in the right place for that started with the murder. George. Fluid and peaceful protest out there and that's where that's where their hearts go. Problem is is that black lives matter globals? Actually they're a self proclaimed. Marxist group right and that group has been. Know intimately engaged in across the country. In burning cities. There have been officers assassinated in in in these riots and even outside of the rights. And there's been an officers that the protest half an emergency room doors in hospitals our country. Blocking people to get into Ospel. So why in the world? Would we use a state institution? To promote that level of ideology. And if we're GONNA if in the so just at the you know the outset of it if you have A. I can see a student. Somebody in there as a teenager saying, Hey, this is something I relate to and they're wanting to go out and say you know promote that racial justice as one thing. But when you have PhD's that run a universal, you understand what's really going on and they say it's okay to put B. L. Am. Right next to the flying W. V.. And say this behavior is okay that's not acceptable. And then to go beyond that is that it's what I'm concerned about is is so ingrained within the culture of our universities that a that a biology professor feels that it's acceptable to get on and talk to a biology students in class using university resources that our tax dollars pay for. That is now these two universities are flagships of our state. Won The world within that culture makes it. Okay in head of professor to go out and say that caused the death of support of the president of our country. So does that continuum start at when you say that this movement is okay and then it goes to this and what? What's the next step? If we don't say something. The next day. People inspired to go out and do what we're seeing across the rest of the country. Yeah. It's very concerning and and I agree with you even if I disagree with with a message or what have you a student at Wvu holding a sign on their time on a sidewalk or public area saying whatever they want to say, that's fine I have no problem with that. I'm a proponent of free speech but a student athlete who is more than likely there because of a scholarship and and then takes the. Sacred logo and the sacred helmet of of the university and puts B. L. in on their That's a slap in the face an absolute slap in the face at the people who have fought for freedom at people who are on the front lines every day our police officers and and hardworking mountain years everywhere, and and I just cannot believe that that Shane Lyons or coach Brown or coach Huggins would allow anything like that to take place. At Wvu it it's does not align with West Virginia if and I think you're right I. Think a lot of these people probably have not done the research about exactly what be L. in is black lives matter it was founded by. Self proclaimed Marxist. It's a socialist organization but even if you don't know the the history of its founding, you can look and see on social media on the news every day at what they are doing in cities all across America. Yeah I mean, and that's and that's the point, and so we have western university who gets more than one hundred, thirty, one, million dollars. In state. Tax Dollars. A year. You Have Marsh University you get more than sixty three, million nearly sixty three million dollars from tax payers year. It's Using a state institution. Any state institution is just wrong. Invade. This message for to have this culture. Yeah But flagships of our state. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know what if the university sanctioned this or not, but they actually took the Marshall in which is A A logo that that you have to have if you're GONNA make t shirts with that logo you gotTa have a copyright you gotta pay for that but they've taken the the Marshall Em and use that in B. L. am making their own logo to show that Marshall's align with them. Now, there's something wrong with that that that just should not be. I saw that and I didn't know if that was university sanctioned still don't know actually that was brought to my attention yesterday. and I don't know if that's the university sanctioning but it but it does bring to mind is that if you had you think of the the use of taxpayer dollars to. To Go and support anything that is a political ideology. So if you had any body who is running for a seat in West Virginia. And they stuck up the billboard and they had really big on Shirt Marshall University or they had really big on their shirt. Wvu. You think you wouldn't get a call from the legal department university in two seconds pull that billboard down. And the reason. Is because they get taxpayer dollars. Yeah well, if you're running for reelection Eric and you use the marsh or WB logo or any. University. Logo in your campaign you're going to be slapped down on that. Right, and this is this is this is no different and it's actually it's. Different because. Of the violence has been associated with around all this you know in what we've been really really blessed West Virginia. To not see this coming into our borders at this point. Yeah. You're right into it doesn't. It doesn't mean that it cannot happen here and so you know some of the people that have emailed me around this conversation some of them. Respectful some not. but some of the was respectful and ask we'll know where do you think you already think you to come out and say this legislator you're promoting this is your own ideas. This is not my own idea or sixteen other senators. WHO said this is not right. There's a lot of my constituents come out and said, this is not right. Thanks for speaking up reality because it's when is it okay to speak is it after an officer gets assassinated in the streets of? Huntington Is that when we should speak that this. This is just it it just it blew my mind when I saw the professor go back and they'll walk no should have spoken before it ever got the discipline and you know this is getting This is coming at a time where I think a lot of West Virginia parents and really parents all over the country are starting to have their eyes opened up about what's going on on college campuses anyway. The indoctrination the amount of money that they are paying to to have their children indoctrinated rather than educated and I hate to paint a broad brush with a broad brush there. But let's talk about What's going on right now in many colleges including West Virginia online learning where you're paying as if you were your your child was in the classroom with person to person learning, and it's not the same. On, it's definitely not the same in most schooling, and now we're talking about the university level here but also within K.. Twelve more southern K. twelve. Is that most education especially, this provide a public manner is directed to them the middle the spectrum, right? It's it's it's the the way that most students learn. And they have programs for people who are on the edges. Students learn. And? Most students learning through a virtual environment at least from what I've seen so far is is completely opposite of way that that program has been designed. You know there's problems with his with teaching the middle. There certainly problems with teaching only to the extremes of how students might learn. And it's There's there's there's challenges all around that was. Just, the virtual environment side of it is just in West Virginia. the connectivity side of things as our problem we. And the technology. Saab, we have so many. children now who are being raised by their grandparents. You know. So and I'm I'm I'm forty eight years old. And I know that when the latest technology comes out and I've been used to use them math, I've had for five years and something's changing I gotta go in and have somebody helping with on the new stuff to go through Tried doing that. And having a six year old have they're? Trying to figure it out. And then the six year old no one that migrates depend on this. Yeah Yeah. Besides being educated comes from that. Yeah. Well Yeah West Virginia clearly and you can blame some of that on the terrain I guess maybe but but West Virginia clearly is not prepared to be a work at home school at home virtually state. We're just not We don't have the infrastructure to do that I. Don't know what it's going to take to fix that problem. but certainly, it shows that we're way behind. I agree with that and that that issue is not lost in is absolutely fixable. And I think in the next few days, you're probably going to see. a plan that shows just how it can be done. So it's a we're we're real several that are seeing that the how we can get this done in a not a very long time out or getting very excited. About that being able to get fiber across the state of West Virginia so Well I is that something that legislators joiners is something that that that's being done by private industry. it's a private industry won't be doing it yeah. Okay. Well, let's let's talk about the legislature and plans there because you know the the House has said we've got enough votes to have a special session. you folks in the Senate have not gotten enough votes to have a special session. But yet we're six months with executive rule and you know we're supposed to be three separate but equal branches of government and we're not hearing from the legislative branch. Now I know that Governor Justice has talked about a suggestion box and he's been on conference calls with I don't. Know if you've been on one but but certainly Senate leadership and House leadership that's all well and good. But that is not anywhere near constitutional. We need to have a Republican form of government and whether or not you agree with Governor Justice as executive orders or what little he's done with cares act money one, point, twenty, five, billion, the need it needs to be done legislatively. Yes. So I I want to to you know me I think from conversations we've had on the radio and four, and after your shows Yup and. Nobody is more frustrated. With the living under an executive role than than I am I just, I just don't. There's so many populous, motivated, and arbitrary rules that have been laid down the heads of West Virginians. In an election year that is Is just beyond it's like upside down world and so so I have that frustration I understand this frustrations. But what I, what most people don't understand is the roles. In the the. The House and the Senate and the joint roles relative to appropriations money and how that could impact if we have a legislative session at this point. And this this is. The part I have a problem with it's one of the reasons I've not signed on petition to call us in is that you're right there's one point, two, four, five, billion dollars. That is essentially a leverage tool. Override an appropriations veto with any. Any. Any session. Override the veto takes two thirds of the House and the Senate to ride a gubernatorial veto on appropriation. L. This is on the backdrop of. An two years at officer within the legislature numerous numerous numerous bills that we've had to water down. To get an eighteen sixteen vote across the line. In the Senate or to get even more watered down or not even be able to get it across the line to get fifty one votes in the house. So in the Senate in order able to override anything around that money. We're GONNA. Need at least twenty three votes. When we've had eighteen senators typically who would get on her onboard on our most conservative bills In the House sometimes, they only get taken up and committee when we get it out eighteen sixteen. And I mean. We're talking bills even about. Moving, an inspection sticker who happened to have it every year to have it every two years. We're talking about votes that we tried to get removed the tax on vehicles and four wheelers drops. You know. So that's stuff that to me shouldn't be terribly controversial. Now With that backdrop and understanding that. Now. You go in and we say, okay, we're going to start in this election sock on. This is this is where the problem comes in. The first place is landing and all election year. Is that this would end up spending millions of dollars for a special session. That and special session that we're anything's on tables, not locking normal special session when the governor calls when the legislature calls us in anything on the table, any bill can be introduced. It's not agreed upon bills at you're coming into you can't hold that bar rules. You cannot hold an agreed upon. This is the narrow scope of discussion coming unless the governor creates that narrative scope of discussion when he calls us in right So with that in mind and you have one point, two, four, five, billion dollars leverage. All you have to do is look the federal government to see how that rolls out the federal government spent three trillion dollars. On stimulus package and much ain't a lot. Millions and millions and millions and billions of dollars went to fluff. Democrat nonprofits. and the light right. So if we go in West Virginia and we go into into a special session. Where the Democrats know. That the only way, we legislation across the line with appropriations we have to have their vote on how to spend one point, two, four, five, billion. I I understand what you're saying and I've heard the governor say something similar the that he doesn't want the the Democrats to politicize this. But nonetheless, I I'm just talking about the constitution and the constitution clearly states that that we're supposed to have three equal branches of government and we're now six months and it really could be ten eleven months before you guys come back into session. It will be actually February of next year and that's just too long going through what we're going through without any other input other than the executive, but the second thing about that is. I understand that if the legislature calls it's open but why doesn't the governor knowing what he said that this thing would be politicized? Why doesn't he do a special call where he sets the agenda and he says, okay, boys, here's what we're going to do. We're GONNA take this amount right here and set up for this this amount here instead it for this, give me an upper down and that would that tie Democrats hands at that point. You know as far as I'm concerned I believe it would and that question is a much better question really go. Well all I would ask is since I don't have his ear that that you and and other leaders in the Senate and the house get with him and maybe direct him in that way because. I I just think that this has gone on too long and they're Timothy West Virginians getting frustrated with this I mean just look the color coded map. I. Mean What are the Bockel that has been? You know I think the governor had actually been using right or wrong and whether it was on purpose or not the daily Kobe. Briefings to his advantage politically for reelection up until the start of school. Now I think this is coming back to bite him because so many parents are so confused and frustrated over this Color Code All. So so you hit several things there and I'm going to touch on color code and sending one. The things is they will you know having the governor's ear what one of the things that I will Commune the governor on relatives the past sessions experience we've had with him past as legislative body. Is that. I have never been refused the call to the governor's off during this time. And when I call I have somebody at high level is listening and they may not always take up on the recommendations. But several times they have. And and some of those are not just my recommendations, better legislators and those things are for examples is taken fifty million dollars of that cares money toward broadband expansion The Senate sent in. A letter to governor about private school saying he stepped over the line has no no authority tail private schools, what they can and cannot do as far as opening. and. He's reached out and started working with the private schools and said, and letting them open up The on the Color Code System. Here, especially here in Putnam County, you know we've been in the Orange Morad Nov Gani hazard a swath accounts year-over-year together and I represented from Putnam County. Counties I represent have been really restricted from going to school and and have argued and argued argued with Governor's office on this on about putting. The control dams the local level with superintendents to decide within their counting. which schools to open or close as they have had by statute for long as I can remember. And instead of. A top down entire county being shut down when a breakout might even be anywhere near one side of the. And the middle ground from that and from my conversations and several others that have reached out. So you ended up in that gold collar which tried to put some them back into. being able to make that decision in and frankly. Candy was given a gold collar and then the superintendent on vice of local health professional said, you know we're not going to open its our choice. Now we're not gonNA it the they've been made the same decision. So it's not the main that the local levels not gonNa make a different decision. But the local board of Education. The local superintendent. That local health officer probably has a much better handle on what's happening locally than the state. Health Officer. For the governor. Raimondo. There's things have been listened to. And and there's there's other things that can go on and talk about where where. Things he took fairly quick action on things recommended, and there's things that just were completely saying, no, that's not gonNA happen recommendations as well. So there's been conversation. There is conversation it, but I agree with us that. They're absolutely has to be fixes and it's just not West Virginia this this is a problem across accountable. West. Virginia's these state I'm concerned about. Is that within statute that win an emergency. Declaration a declaration of emergency as main. There are powers granted to the governor under those. Those under that order. That should have been limited a long time ago, and I don't think that that past legislatures have foreseen that any declaration emergency would go on for nearly this long and has got to be put in check. Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. we're talking with state Senator Eric Are Republican Putnam County. It's district four want to get to just a couple more things real quick before we let you go the governor is said that he He's basically encouraging everybody to get tested I understand the advantages of that bringing down the the the percentage rate and so forth, I. But but I just don't really understand healthy people. No symptoms going to get tested and had somebody asked me the other day. Do you think that? There are federal dollars connected to that. So the more people tested the more money West Virginia gets the more positive cases. The more West Virginia gets is that true? I've not heard that. No if I've not seen that at all in the discussions around the positivity rate. and Tom this. This is even having discussions with. Less one with amongst the medical profession. A doctor physical therapy but I'm not a medical doctor. But in talking with the medical doctors who were having issues with the way that the school collar wheel was set up. one of the issues that they had was that. Is that if you're just going to go on the the operative cases per one, hundred, thousand people that you got in there. Based on testing. So what they were doing is that if you came in tested and your positive and based on one hundred, thousand population. There is a disincentive that even if you were symptomatic to go get tested if you're wanting to schools open. And that is real and that that was real. that. That was a problem. One of the things that and this is one of the discussions that have the governor's office where there was a move toward at least toward our position. Is that including positivity rate? Change, changes that. So if you have, if you have people if you're trying to get your schools open, have people say look we want to go in show that co bid is not as prevalent in our county. As as the number seemed to show uh-huh the more people who don't have for positive or negative test bring that positivity rate down to be able to show that. It was just a flip from. A A we put in a position that makes people not get tested. So we need to have it to where it's not disincentivize people tested. So you know it's the other way Ram. Right this is an election year and so I want to ask you about the possibility Of with Senator Presidio, not running for reelection. The possibility of Mike Caputo the man who claimed legislative immunity. After kicked in the door March. First of Twenty nineteen injured Logan Castro line injured now deceased delegates. Sharon. Malcolm, cursed her out acted like a complete raging lunatic. This guy could very well end up being with you in the Senate in twenty twenty. One. This is one of the things that Of told people that Any any French citizen listen. Is that if there was ever a year. At really really matter that you went republican right down the ticket. This is absolutely positively it. So when you say that Ronald Left. The Senate. So yeah one of the things that that I think that West Virginians have been proud of as they tend to have a a by large at least in Mark's Berenson's senator a moderate. Hope of modesty in their legislature. Well the last Democrats that we had there were moderate in the Senate. Roman go. It was probably the most. Or. Probably second and then third was probably a Corey Wando. Three of those decided they're not running again. So, what happens is that if you go out and you're disgruntled were a Republican for one reason or another. And you say we'll look I'm either not just not want to punch that button. or I'm GonNa Punch, for the Democrat side what you're doing. Is giving. A complete socialist nut. The control the Senate That's what that vote does So. If you're listening to dom show today meaning your extra paying attention, the I'm telling you. It is critical that if you are person who values life. If you're a pet person who values your second amendment rights. If you're a person who values actually reducing tax dollars instead of increasing taxes across the board to give entitlements out the WAZOO. You need to be going. Straight. Down at ticket Republican. Would you would you classify Mike Caputo as a complete socialist nut? Yes. All, right. That's all I needed. A good deal state, Senator Eric Tar Republican from Putnam County. Appreciate it. Thanks for coming on today. All right. Thanks, Don. All right back in a moment Tom Morning Show News Radio Eight, hundred W V H you.

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Hour 2: 5/18/20

The Paul Finebaum Show

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Hour 2: 5/18/20

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One of the points aren't gonNA bring about University of South Carolina shortening. There's some semester you know potentially because of second outbreak in the fall Not Me we were talking about it because two two words but right now taking care right now but the bank is this virus. Act that way so was a big build it sometime this fall again. We'll be back in some kind of issue but anyway the only problem was testing so far and I can see. Is that Every time we think that testing is now back to have a lab test. Came back with a thirty percents false negative rate which means that seven out of ten people jazz positive but at thirty percent three to ten five but they tested negative. But you're not okay so by the way wasn't wasn't that the one they're using it the White House it is and it's the one that was just a ten minute test. You're not right. And that's that's reminds me saying that that's GonNa Change. I hope that play college football. I've loved Saint College Football There's nobody Harvard. Get Kids on campus. Think you can do social business in a classroom. I was in college one time. I promise you you get eighteen. Nineteen twenty year old. I'm crowd is going to be awfully difficult to give keep them socially missed them so you know. I don't know which way we're going. I I think some people say just play and not worry about it and I think that's that's just their own mentality of the have and you know I'm Carolina fans in hundreds of you know a lot of the opposite team here. You know their their family treat on four much. So they're kind of in the position of you know let's go ahead and do it but that's just not let me let me let me address that. Christian I mean everyone. Here's some similar things in terms of of where the virus is and where it comes back and I think you just have to go along. I mean it's a really tough call and I think I think even better question Chris. How're people going to react? I'm like you I'm like everyone. I WanNa College football and I WANNA get I wanna I wanna go and start doing normal things but how many people are going to be willing to do that. And I'm not talking about just proving. Appoint this is not about politics. This is about your health in terms of what you're going to expose yourself to and more than likely you'll be fine but There are going to be some. Today's a really great day is probably the most positive day we've had since this thing started Ten weeks ago. But there'll be some bad days and I agree and I'm thankful behavior something that behavior they open flea markets here in South Carolina and one near where I live and I just don't pass going somewhere else. They were literally several thousand people. And a that. You can't do that and I'm not I'm not I'm not a an. Id physician. But I'm telling you that I saw a picture from New York yesterday. Where counted five thousand people walking past each other on the beach. Now I mean I might walk around South Carolina. I'm not walking around New York right now. Let's not outside of same things. You turned into facts and I mean you know. The bars are full. And they're not associate this now are and I you get a little alcohol in your social. Social Missing has opposite of back. No I I mean. There's a reason why we're doing better. And you and I both know it Right it's not. It's not going the opposite direction. I can't wait. I mean gyms are opening and a lot on. Tv gyms are opening in South Carolina. Right now they're opening in North Carolina in a couple of days. I mean who who doesn't who doesn't want to go back to a gym but know look around I though well I think you gotta be you. Use The problem techniques and people would wear. I've raised this bridge at all the time people get tired of hearing it but if all last but I'm ask we have the significant of fasteners right just that way so I know my wife said she was at a store earlier today In about thirty or forty percent of the people were wearing masks. And that's I mean you you just have to follow it. I mean you can. You can disagree with you. Know the direction of leadership and all that but those those guidelines are not are not in in dispute. I've heard ten if I haven't heard fifty infectious disease specialists all say the same thing. Where the mask right? And I think he's proven over and over and I don't mind rose. I don't like the speed of it on a bus to my taking. You know I mean that's just the way it is real dangerous now. I I'm worth I don't like to be told what to do. But disregarded doctor's advice often and guess what paid the price badly. Edward is up next in Florida. Hello Edward Hey Paul how you doing? We're well thank you very good. Well I work on a senior campus and we have all the spectrums of health care. independent assisted and skilled nursing. And Tomorrow WE'RE GONNA test somewhere between five hundred and a thousand people in two hours and we're GONNA have results back in forty eight hours. Oh how and So you know Looking at just kind of the fact of the situation that if you're under sixty years old it's really less than one percent so to me. Can we test football players and teams and get them around in a controlled environment? Where everybody should be okay. I would think that we could be able to do that. What I'm seeing. I think there's a pretty good chance you can say that. Not Based on any independent knowledge that I have or what you've told me. But the people in charge no the protocol and they were up there really upbeat now. Are they being upbeat because they have to be? I don't know but if it's doable and I think somebody else made the point earlier. Edward it's certainly a lot easier to do today as you you've laid out and it would have been six weeks ago or eight weeks ago and it's going to be even easier and a couple of weeks. Yeah no question about that. Now we know that sex and catastrophe cells. So they're not gonNA be any lack of since sensationalism from anybody anywhere but I think if level heads and People do their jobs and and let's face it if the people that are managing our universities aren't some of the most intelligent people in the country. Then we've got a whole another problem. We need to be looking at no. I think you're right. They have a vested interest in it. But I don't know I've never met a college president Who WOULD PUT I met? Maybe some athletic directors but been in the past or or or coaches. But I get to meet a college president. Who's going to put the football team ahead of the safety of students? You don't WanNa be that. College president has a disaster on your hands with with with anything cataclysmic in relation to the student body. I can assure you of that. Thank Paul thank you very much great to have you on really do appreciate that. Let's Check OUT DON. Who is up next In Birmingham Don. Hey how you doing Paul. I know you're doing well My friend is a thin razor's edge. These administrators are having the tread. Right now wouldn't you agree yes you. It's unfortunately. This is no longer just a Conversation about academia athletics. It's become political. That's true yeah Paul earlier I think it was Paul from From Auburn an Auburn guy was kind of wondering if he's GonNa try to go to the Games. I'm one that called you about two weeks ago and asked him. How would they Figure who gets to go and you ask about my level of You know level in the tide prize and I've been in it. I'm not at a high level but I've been in it for thirty along with my daughter is alive. She's celebrator thirty second birthday and I I'm just sitting in my nine hundred and for my son and myself nine hundred and forty dollars nine hundred and twenty dollars for two sets of season tickets and I I'm fully willing to try to go to some of the Games I go. I turned sixty six two weeks from this Friday. I go to my doctor the Monday two weeks from this Monday. Which is the first To see how You know about some things. I have some underlying conditions. But I'm hoping to try to go I don't know if I should heed his advice. let me throw this out there that I heard. Let me see if I can relay this A couple of weeks ago. You remember the four doctors who were being Interviewed by the Senate panel. Yes so do your your former state's senior senator who was a former president of UT was Sharing that and riding in his questions related to what can I tell the administrator of ut GonNa be the situation when he gets. You know ready to open up this stuff. You know in July August of this year and he said you know and they they were giving him data and so forth. Wasn't that ended. I was watching the MSNBC and chuck. Todd mentioned well obviously Senator The senator was trying to Indicate HEY WE WE WANNA be ready When we want does Mr Trump or what do we need to do to get the level of testing up to be able to be ready by this time in the fall by the time we need to go? And so you know. I thought that was kind of interesting. That was just his observation but You know Lamar Alexander was. Yeah I saw some of that. That was really I read Senator Alexander's comments after. Thanks for the call. We're heading to a break special guest coming up talking about some of the issues. The college teams are facing. We are going to be joined by rider for USA Today. Right after this listening to Paul Finebaum show podcast luckily back so great to have Steve Berkowitz on one of the truly outstanding a sports reporters and writers in the country from USA. Today just like all of us trying to understand the vagaries of the college football season among other. Stay thanks for the time and we really appreciate it. Sure no problem. Thanks a lot for having me on. Thanks for the. Thanks for the kind words. Well I mean it. It's a it's era to see someone that's as diligent in his work and craft as you are and I want to get on that because you talked about the subject in today's piece this morning about some of the hoops that the NCW has to with and there are a lot and we all want to see college football But but take us through the other side of it. Steve and in terms of what they need to do to make sure. It's it's safe. Well I mean the the the piece that had to do with with the comments that Brian hainline made over on evening on an NCAA. A twitter cast And we talked about some of the Did the things that you have to go through In order to have the football season or begin to start having practiced and so forth And keep in mind. I mean what what he's talking about here. Are you know recommendations. I mean this is a big difference between what you have going on with the Pro Leagues. And you know the the the Manual that the Major League Baseball put out. And what's going on with the NCAA is that you know. You have a central office in pro sports determining what's going to happen and that's a little bit harder for the Aa to do. This is going to have a lot to do with college. But basically he was talking about some things that you have to deal with with testing And the outcomes of those testing so for instance if you have Everyone being tested. And you have a player test positive. And then you do the contact tracing and then you quarantine everybody who they've been in contact with for fourteen days the kind of impact that would have on your ability to to run team activities as a for instance and stay the I realize We're just speculating here. But I mean will this be up to individual schools to determine the authenticity of these tests. And I'm certainly not suggesting anything although maybe I am but I mean this is serious stuff here and I know that programs have their best interests at heart but but how are we going. I mean what? What's the protocol going to be? Yeah I mean that's you know I mean those are all really good questions I mean I just you know how this is. GonNa work from school to school may vary. I mean and protocols may vary based on a lot of different things. I mean it may have to do You know their Their access to testing It may have to do with what's going on in their particular part of the country At a given time I mean there just a lot of different Variables there You know schools that have access to schools that have access to major medical facilities whether they're hospitals or rather medical units that they have you know maybe in a different place than others And as Dr Hoenlein talked about I mean there's a constant evaluation of of how accurate The tests are that are being developed. I mean you talked about like there's a huge difference in where we're at in terms of testing now than we were thirty or sixty days ago but even then when you're looking at test that there were being turned around in fifteen minutes how you know how accurate those tests. Dr and I wonder WHO's paying for these tests right exactly and it's going to be You know I presume that these this is not going to be an inexpensive undertaking in terms of requiring the equipment You know to do this. And the and the all the other products that are involved in In reading taking the test and reading the test and being able to process I don't see that being a cheap undertaking. I mean John's Wofford the Commissioner of the ACC said that the conference in the schools there over the course of their spring meetings last week. We're talking about this but they don't really have a good handle yet on what it would cost. No it's a I mean. This is all happening as bad news. Coming out all over the place. I'm sure some some of the audience hasn't this yet. You probably have a firm and the firm in baseball program is being cut today. That news came out. We've seen other programs who are who are cutting back. And if you're if you're just a smaller school and you're cutting programs to make ends meet and suddenly you're faced with a bill like this. That's pretty serious stuff. Yes no question. I mean I you know in schools are are you know depending on how revenues come along this fall Yeah I mean schools are. It's these are going to be some difficult decisions that that schools are facing the and then you get into the question of our schools spending their athletics dollars and you know what of these things are absolutely necessary in which of these things you know are You know or add ons and you know I mean I think by and large you know. Athletics programs will do their best to try to hang onto as many teams as they can. But you know a lot of this spins around. Whether or not they'll end up being football season And what the revenue from. That looks like so I mean that's it's you know it's going to be an evolving thing. No Steve Is. You talked to Steve Berkowitz here USA Today. Is You talk to people. And I realized that this is a moving target in. We're sitting here on the eighteenth. It looks a lot better today than probably six weeks ago. But we're we're still usually. This is usually the end of the calendar year and conference meetings are going on and I mean we're sitting around trying to figure out whether we're having a season or not and and I I know what everyone says but but getting past the statements of we intend to and we plan on and all this that you've already discussed me. What's what's your sense. Just talking to people. Both on the record off the record Gathering information on where we really are. And when we're going to know I think it's GonNa be. I think it's really difficult for people. Tell and I think folks you know not just college sports but I mean college is generally and keep in mind that you know anything having to do with college sports and how you're testing takes place in the broader context of what's going on on campus is generally And I think schools are doing the best to delay making decisions for as long as they. Can you know in the hope of having you know the best possible information on which to make Decisions but being Shane? Lyons the Athletic Director West Virginia who had the Division One football oversight committee was saying that. If you get to end of June New Orleans ally Then you're getting to a point where you really have to make some decisions. Otherwise there's looking at having to delay the start of the football season We're coming up on some play and some you know sometimes coming up here. We're decisions are going to be made along those lines just as schools are making decisions about how they're gonNA handle Students back to campus on a broader basis and on the athletics. And you know of this stuff. is potentially further complicated by the ruling. Today out of the ninth circuit in the Allston case about the kinds of that can be Permitted and how they can be limited or forced to be unlimited for benefits related to education. So that's yet another You know moving thing that's going to be going on in the background alongside everything else. That's going on BR athletics departments. Explain that one to two a Steve. As as you understand this stuff. Most of us don't what does that really mean? Well I mean what the what the decision today did was. It affirmed ruling. That was made by District Court judge in this case basically said that the NC Double A. has an association cannot Put limits on the benefits that athletes can receive. That are tied to education so this is different from the name image and likeness. Roy under sation but this is the prospect of athletes Athlete for instance being able to be told by one institution. That if you come here we will pay for you to go to Grad School at another institution Later on or providing potentially providing cash payments for certain academic achievements which is also. Potentially possible now. You know what the judge is saying. What they court is saying here is that you can't have association wide rules on this that Conferences could make decisions as long as they act independent of one another but the ability of the NCAA membership as a whole to have an a rule that applies the entirety of division. One is very very limited now under this now the NCWA attempt to appeal to the Supreme Court But as it stands now That's what you're looking at. And that potentially opens the ability of schools to provide additional benefits again puts even more pressure on the financial end of all of this. Yeah I'm not trying to be a lawyer here but if if you have football players being every day or every week and the average student body is not. Is that an issue it may well be? I mean you know. There's there's on one level there's the optics of it And on another level there may be liability issues with it as well And School General General counsels are you know are nervous about this came up last week at Senate hearings Around Education They came up last week about whether or not Colleges and universities can get some type of liability protection in the same way that businesses are seeking some help in terms of liability protection as people returned to work. It's going to be a busy summer and fall. I can feel it Steve thanks very much for coming by as always. It's great to have you on again. Probably appreciate it up Hope you're well all all your listeners and folks are well and Stand you know. Stand as healthy as they can appreciate that. Obviously the same for you and your colleagues. We'll talk to you very soon. Thank you Steve. Thank you great. Conversation with Steve Berquin USA about by the way it was announced. Today that Ole miss in southern cal will play at the Coliseum in twenty twenty five. Something tells me that Lane Kiffin won't need to use. Gps to find the stadium. He was wants to southern cal. Football coach we are coming right back. You're listening to the Paul Finebaum show. Podcast we welcome you back here. The President of West Virginia Gordon. Gay joining us at the top of the next hour Bryan is in Atlanta. And You you're next. Hey Paul thanks for taking my call thank you. Oh let me find myself. I was listening about two or three weeks ago when the cat dead thing this guy the girl lady called the end you re remember. Jim Jumped on and all that. Let me densify myself. 'cause I've got in three times now in the last year I'm Brian Mitchell. Living since nineteen fifty-eight sign Tom. Paul Bear Bryant came to coach to Crimson tide. Us born in fifty six. You missed most of his ears. Didn't you Paul well? I covered his last two years at Alabama so My experience with Brian was as a young reporter who who didn't who didn't realize How lucky I was to be covering him. Oh well I was just thinking about the age when you were sixteen. Seventeen years old. I know you went to Tennessee. Did you Follow bad real. You Know Oh sure. I'll never forget when I was with the school newspaper. Whatever year was Alabama played in Knoxville? I went into the locker room after the game. I had a cassette tape recorder for those who don't remember those. I taped the interview and I went back and played it and I couldn't understand a word he said and I when I moved Alabama. I got a little better exposure to him. I I did. I didn't know him fairly well I I. I was certainly not an intimate of his like the older sports writers but I did call him every week. We had A. He agreed because the the local newspaper I worked for was the newspaper. Read every morning primarily for the for primarily for the comics he later. I'll tell a story about that sometime. We they cancelled a comic his favorite comic strip. It's the newspaper called the editor. I can assure you the comic Strip was back the next day And so we. We talked quite a bit but did did I would I did. I know him very well. Know what's this? I'm eighty years old in kindly. Remember all those things. It was such a great twenty five years. And I'm I'm Kinda over the top Alabama Fan. Anyway you might remember my call on my birthday. I got some friends that live next to him up on Lake Burton and they when I got him to give him and his wife signed the football. It seems to me on my birthday so I'm not personally. But they got that done for me and I thought that was unbelievable. So but anyway the Talking about Alabama football you know bear Bryant had a couple of bad years if if you follow it. I don't know how you want your followed. I followed it very closely. You six five and six and four one and then all at once. He went over to the and found out about the wishbone darrow. Role all tall in wishbone in the seventies antle how many games he won Believe he won Saving one in ten to twenty. I don't know because I I think he won. About one hundred games during that stretch during the seventies but remember were only playing ten or eleven games while so yeah so I I would think Sabin clearly one more because not only did they have an SEC championship game. He had some years as many as to as many as three postseason games. And let me say one more time for hang up you know I know I remember. You broke the story on. What is his last name? Lang on the guy that in the past. So maybe these guys in Ohio and all that time give you a hard time about thinking you Bama. All homer whatever sometime. That's a pretty strong story when you call still. Yeah James You remember that. Yeah no I do. Not only that. I'm not going to run a recap my career but people in Tuscaloosa are very familiar with it and You know I was the ban the Bama stuff the Obama stuff didn't start 'til saving got there until then I mean there were times when I was a complete outcast as you probably broke that story. I did a lot of things Ray Perkins wants who followed coach Bryant. He he tried to me banned from campus. So there there were some rough days. I can assure you Brian. I'm really glad to hear from you you. You hope you're healthy. Sound to stay in. I work on. Tax Appeals but Lately we're going back to twenty nine. Okay I got one of the things so you know these all the calls and I know I'm not talking about the virus and all that today but all the fans can do is just wait like I said you know. I've called one other time. Tell You I think by July fifth or somewhere here right that we'll we'll know something definite with the fans just gotTa sit back and hope for football. You're absolutely right. Well great to hear from you my pleasure by the way Notre Dame just announce They will have students back on campus starting in August And they'll do this. You'RE GONNA see a lot of this. They'll forego the fall break and end the semester before thanksgiving. That's exactly what South Carolina announced. Today Bob is in Georgia. Hey Bob Welcome to the show. Hi Paul I'm ninety two years old well thank you. I'm glad to hear from you. Got a pretty good memory. I started over the nineteen forty five bucks a couple of my friends up to whoever springs and we looked. We talked to people that had infantile paralysis. And I'm sort of making a comparison between what that was then of course we didn't have TV. We didn't have very good communication and those days and the people there a lot or are in lungs probably got people today that heard our law and it was. I think I was there in. Nineteen forty five and about nineteen fifty five took that long before they got a vaccine that they gave everybody and United States to take. It was a pill. Some sort and it's GonNa take a long time the test and of course today you're dealing with the world you're dealing with. I don't know millions. And millions of people how long it would take the test it to produce it and put it out. I don't know how I've heard projections. I don't know what I mean. It raises a lot of issues right now. I think the testing CAPAC- capacity is increasing every day. And I don't know what it's going to be like. I think the colleges feel calm for confidence that they can manage it. Well you know everything. Today is much better off than it was seven. If you want to get a test today Based on what I understand. It's not that hard to get. You can get one that most physicians offices or hospitals or other places live in Harris County in Georgia and the county health department. Well anybody can go have a test or now. Yeah I PLAN. I'm interested Baba's someone who Who have seen. I guess you saw the felt a great depression. You probably didn't but but certainly you remember it World War Two and every I mean how. How do you view what's going on in this country right now? Tv against a lot of information and I probably get more and I read the paper. I read the paper and I read every article in it. And that's how I I graduated from October. Nineteen forty nine and I did have a full life. I graduated from Auburn. I went in the army. I worked for Chrysler for thirty years. And then I've retired and and today you got so many ways to help your education the receive things you know. You didn't have that back when I was growing up. 'cause there such a thing as TV long. How long were you in the service? I was only in for two. I got drafted. That was orient two years but I I had a good job. I was sent to Aberdeen Proving Ground. I was an instructor or the school. Well that's great. Well Bob I appreciate you sharing the information. We're heading to a break here but we will We'll talk to you again very soon. We're doing really well. Eighty eighty to ninety two year old. I'm starting to feel young as five to four to seven to eight five. The president at West Virginia the former President Ohio state and Vanderbilt. He'll join us here in a couple of minutes Gary Patterson head coach at Tcu as well as we are often running here on Monday afternoon. Listening to Paul Finebaum Show podcast GEICO presents. Not again another voicemail from your roommate man so I was in a rush to get to work and I left the back door open. Could you shut it. I lifted wide open. While you're there could you also turn off the oven and all of the burners? Never let me use the oven. I wonder why the Geico Insurance Agency could help. Keep your personal property protected. Like if it's your roommate's first time operating in oven visit. Geico DOT COM to see how easy it is to switch and save on. Renter's insurance we welcome you back. Great to everybody with us We'll talk to Gary Patterson shortly and the President of West Virginia and a few minutes who says we will have college football this year. First we've talked to a college president in a while. Ruth is up next in Knoxville Tennessee. Paul I'm a first time caller but I've been listening with my husband you every day since two thousand twelve. Thank you very much. I love your show and I have to say on a huge Alabama Fan roll. Todd thank you but the reason I was calling in I wanted to revisit because it Not Paying just briefly I heard that earlier segment with earlier caller and I don't retired nurse and I appreciate that you pointed out that masks are recommended by infectious disease physician The one thing that really bothers me is. I see so many people wearing masks. But it's down below their nose it's ineffective. Noor is nowhere. Exactly just take it off if you're not going to wear it correctly and so. I just wanted to emphasize the people that you don't just need to wear a mask and wash your hands and social distance. You also need to wear the mask covering your face. I'm in your mouth. Andrew knows yeah. I'm glad you mentioned that. I mean there's a reason why people in healthcare where mask Especially at a sensitive times and that's without that we're not talking about a virus adept when we're just talking about everything else. And I I don't understand. I mean I'm not going to try to understand the psychology of why people refused but it. I want you to repeat again ruth because I don't know tell me an infectious disease physician in the world. Who suggests your who suggests not wearing a mask during something like this no and you know these are just the basics of infection control handwashing Keeping distance between a sickle potentially sick people and wearing a mask properly in this virus is transmitted by the respiratory route therefore is though important to where that mass and it doesn't just protect you. Actually you get a little protection from it but even more than that you have. The CODE DID NOT CHAIN. And you're a symptomatic or haven't developed symptoms yet. You're protecting other people and you know people I've heard people say. Oh this is government oppression making me wear a mask no about being a decent human being and about caring for your fellow man and trying to prevent spreading disease to them and think about the vulnerable. Think about your grandparents your elderly relatives and neighbors and friends. Think about young young babies. You know we have a newborn baby a week and a half old straight across the street from us. I wouldn't go near that baby right now. I'm really glad you said that because I think I think I think people misinterpret council like this for being told what they can and can't do and that's not it at all and you can wash your hands a million times a day but if you don't have a mask on and you're within range of the virus it's you're sunk yes It just it just strikes me. That people won't do it and you know the other side of this is. We need to reopen our country. We need to reserve our economy. We need to allow people to earn a living so that they can see their children and the longer we don't follow these guidelines the longer we're gonNA have this around at high levels and so you know we got to present those people get through as we were heading to a break. We we have to leave it. I wish you'd call back every day at this time and say the same thing because that was words to the wise.

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"Today answers matter more than ever before. That's why IBM is helping. Businesses manage customer questions with Watson Assistant. It's conversational AI designed to work for any industry. Let's put smart to work visit IBM dot. COM Slash Watson Assistant. Cried, passion than patron, tree of college football leaves here. Is Paul Finebaum. Show our one podcast. Welcome you to another day. It is Thursday. Glad. All of you are here. We have a lot to do today including some very interesting. Yes, let's start which headlines that you may have missed overnight and there's a lot going on here. How about this the PAC twelve conference that most people doubt. has revised its schedule, featuring a mid September, start or the first. Of the power five just say we will definitely start lake. They have three different dates for the championship game. openers on September nineteenth. That's the third week of the season. Possible Ten Games By weeks built in flexibility flexibility, this is according to the PAC, twelve hotline very reputable source out there so we'll see store mandel joining us a little bit later on. He has some more severe doubts than that. Back in the SEC there is. Talk that South Carolina Cleansing WanNa play. Yeah, we knew that already but so far the SEC and of course, the ACC remain among those leagues who have not. Ruled out non conference game so. They WANNA. Play them them. That's a big time game. Meanwhile. While controversy, rains and Scott's skepticism. Is The word Georgia is working behind the scenes on plans for fans. Why not? Jack's Warburg's. He's in Notre Dame athletic director. You could say he might be the most important athletic director in the country. He wants delayed start. And play eight to ten games. You have not heard that from. Most people on this program, but that's where Jack Watson. That's he'll probably get all. That is really about you. Don't buying us a little bit more time to get a sense for what the landscape looks like out there in our country, we're GONNA, play, football, and I say that with the confidence based upon how well and how determined and disciplined our players are they wanna play, and they have shown over the last month, the kind of commitment the attention to detail the discipline to play in a very difficult situation there there's. There's a pandemic going on, and we all know that and you have to be safe. You have to be careful, but our guys have handled it tremendously, and I'm so proud of them, and they are so committed. They WANNA play this game of football and we'RE GONNA WE'RE GONNA provide them every opportunity to do so. That is Brian Kelly acknowledging that there is a pandemic and his guys want to play as if that will have anything to do with the final determination. Gets crazier every day. Does it not? Let's get moving along here. Enough of Brian, Kelly how the guest list Stewart Mandel from the athletic one of the top and most influential people in intercollegiate athletics does not from the SEC network will join US Greg. Tapper covers the high school and college scene out in Texas high schools are. Going there. Are they going out there? Bama announce their full speed ahead today and John Wilder who broke that big story on the PAC twelve he will also join us and We will continue to follow the the the way of college football was asking. Somebody asked me today I was being interviewed. What's going on in college? Football I? Said you're asking me. How would I know because it is so so confusing? You have the PAC twelve talking about starting late you have. Brian Kelly, talking like nothing is really going on new all his athletic director, saying maybe we should start late and play fewer games. You have the SEC the ACC in the big twelve. Talking my business as usual, you have the board of Governors. stole on target to meet tomorrow. Although that could change where there was some speculation, they would call the whole thing off, even though they don't necessarily affect power five, it is There has never been a more confusing time and I understand your frustration This is the time of the year we should be enjoying the games and talking about what is going to happen and instead we can't. Can't get anyone seemingly on the same page we will take your phone calls at eight, five, five, two, four, two, seven, two, eight five love to hear from all of you early in the show, always great We start locking down a little bit as we work our way through the afternoon Let's get to the calls at eight, five, five, two, four, seven to eight, five, and James is starting off in Gulf shores Alabama. Hello James. Hiller Sir I'm just curious. is the SEC just GONNA play itself. Out Service area question if they do should they say maybe pull man another king like say southern, miss or central Florida's something that fact. Well right now. I think everyone is just trying to get. The season started I. Don't think anyone's overly concerned about. ABOUT ANYTHING OTHER THAN Getting to the first weekend. The SEC right now has not deviated. But as you have heard many times on this program, nothing is written in stone, so the plan for now is to play the season. and we're games have already been canceled and many have already been scrubbed. Just fill in the blanks. However, you best decide. Hey, thank you for the call. I really do appreciate it. Let's check out Colitis or clean up next in Louisiana cleanest. Go right ahead. Hi. This is clear from Damn Springs Louisiana I'm Paul. I was just wondering With all these coaches giving mixed messages. What do you think about what the Realistic Star to the? I still think it's. More likely than not to start late. And I don't mean November I mean maybe a week or two late I. Just think if in next week is a critical date as you've heard it, all the people say if they don't have a determination next week that we are starting on time, then you have to push back, so I think. They're fighting the The the numbers all over the country especially in the south. So that's the best guess. I can't tell you how many times a day I changed my mind. Goes the same for most of you. Amid of timber start. that's. I think that's more likely than than an early start, but. Let me, say this again. Next week is a critical date. If the SEC says next next week, we feel comfortable. We are going to start on time. Push the lever then that's where they go. All right one last thing called for you. Go I, just want to say that. Dreamland Barbecue stuck. Thank you very much have a good day, okay? You that not be popular in Alabama. Asking the wrong person though Casey is in Florida Oh, Hey Casey. How you doing today I am doing great. Good Yeah my biggest thing with all this is I. Don't think enough people are talking about the the kids. you know the governor of new? York just said there's no crowds. People are canceling homecoming events everywhere you know. College football supposed to be about the kids, not the administrators not to coach, but about the kids and I wish people would. You know take take them into more consideration and all of this well. Let me ask you How would you? How would you do differently? Well I. Don't know if there's a way I would do differently, but if it's not sick enough to play college football, then they shouldn't play the but. Let me. Ask You a question I heard the head of the. I've heard of the head about High School Athletic Association's around the country say we're. We're playing I. Mean we feel comfortable? I've heard athletic directors say the same thing. How does it? How is anyone going to know until you get players in pads? Things College football. Players do and then incorporate students on campus. Until then we're just. We're just speculating because that's the that's the reality. That's when this thing gets a little more complex right now. I don't think the players are doing anything. That's harmful They're working out. And you may argue well Is it safe? The argument on the other side is? Is it safer there under the jurisdiction of trainers, strength coaches, and and and other assorted versus them, not being there like a regular student I. Mean if you were your regular students are home. They're trying to find someplace to to work out I get that argument, but to me. It changes when everybody shows back up. Why I totally agree and I think everybody wants to see college football, but my whole point is, they need to continue to make it a great experience for the kids. Well I. Agree I totally agree with you on that. I was reading something today. where I think Alabama yeah, I was reading the high. School Athletic Association director is talked about how they're. They're going to return to play meanwhile about half the state or maybe three quarters of the state at least in the big cities mobile I think, and in Birmingham and maybe one other city are at least for the first part of the school. You're keeping children home learning remotely so it's okay to bring. It's okay for for people to come and play football, but it's not okay to bring students back to me. That is an issue that has to be squared here. Before we get to farther along and I've yet to hear anyone come up with. The same answer twice on that one we'll take a break. More of your phone calls eight, five, five, two, four to seventy, eight, five Stewart Mandel, joining us in a little while. We are often running on a Thursday you listening to the Paul Finebaum show podcast. For businesses around the world, today isn't a restart. It's a rethink that's why they're partnering IBM to Change How they from supply chains customer service. Let's put smart to work visit IBM DOT com slash smart to learn more welcome back. We are here on a Thursday afternoon. Let's get back to the calls in. Joanne is in Memphis Hilla Joanne. How are you today I'm doing great I just wanted to ask your opinion on Dr Fao Cheat throwing out the first pitch. How I thought how you think you might do well. He is He's an athlete. He played I think high school and college basketball now. That was just a few years ago. But I I suspect he'll do. Somebody made the joke the other days the first time foul. She wanted anyone to catch something. I think he'll do great, and he'll be the only fan in the in the in the ballpark tonight. So I know I'll be watching. Well I think probably a whole lot of people will be watching and people that aren't even baseball fans No! It's It's pretty weird. Opening Day is always a tradition of late March early early early April. First Opening Day July in the history of sports. This whole year has been a lot of history making so. It has been well I think he'll do I think it's a great event. I'm really glad to see baseball comeback, and hopefully everything else will come with it. Chan is up next. In New Jersey Hello Chan you're on the air? How you doing how you doing Mr Five Day there. I, just have a question. It's this crazy to me like I, see. New Mexico starting school. Starting their football their high school football season in January I'm seeing more conferences. We saw the Ivy League do it. Why is it so hard for like the power five? And some Google five just start the season and do everyone is a service and just starting on January one, having a twelve game season and ending it. In in March or or you know end of March, wise is so hard. Well. It isn't difficult to me. It can't be done. I think the reason is. The. Nobody wants to make a decision until they have to. What I mean by that is this I think they wanNA. Make sure that they're making the right call because there's no guarantee in January we could. We could still be in trouble. In spite of everything you hear, it may may be, it will. It will likely be better, but nobody wants to bet everything on it and I think. They're going to drag it out. If they can't get it done they'll move, but the the the main reason they want. Fall is at the the playing. Field is better for them and in terms of interest and and television. Because in once you get into the winter you're. You're dealing with the end of the NFL season. Assuming that happens, you're dealing with basketball season. By the time you get to March, you have march madness, which literally is the biggest event in the country for three weeks while football would be going on now, I say all this. Assuming that every other calendar stays the same, it may not and one of the biggest reasons you here is. If the NFL won't move its draft which. Guarantee they will. And you have a lot of the best players saying why am I going to do that? And there's one more reason the idea of having college. Players play two seasons in a relatively short period of time. Yeah that would be. That would be quite. That'd be quite. This physically task on players especially if they're not willing to the NFL draft, but I'm a big fan of you Mr Five Bomb Big Fan I love SEC. You see I live in north. I live in the northeast, but like I follow you. Abe Highschool so just keep on going and God bless Chan. Thank you for saying that that really means a great deal. You'd be well to West. Is in Kentucky and you're on the air. Paul. How are you today? We're doing pretty well, thank you. Hey Paul so a couple things I. Want to talk about with you today. just really been using the downtime to really studied the rich history on discovering of all the college football programs really in the state of Kentucky some great players and great coaches have come through, and that's all the university's one question to ask you. Do you have any stories or experiences from your days early on maybe covering football in the state of Kentucky, but before I get, there one coach. I really been intrigued about from his history as a coach Roy Kid. When was coach kid there because I don't think I ever covered him. Boy here's a hall of fame coach. I was really reading into it last night. I WANNA say. He was nineteen, sixty four to two thousand two. I mean he's like a long history of eastern Kentucky. It's unreal reading his history. Okay I. DO Remember Hearing Yeah I'm sure I was thinking UK I i. do know him I mean I don't know him, but I but I'm I'm vaguely familiar with that program, but you know obviously. I've been to Kentucky many many times of both. Football and in. Basketball and certainly the memories of basketball are pretty amazing You can't walk into rupp arena for the first time as a college student. And not have your jaw drop It was I think Adolph. rupp was still alive when the first time I went up there, he was sitting. Right before he died for. So the memory of Kentucky, basketball has always been pretty amazing and and quite frankly I think I was at one of the most important Kentucky Football Games of all time a couple of years ago. When, we were up there for the Georgia Kentucky Game for the Eastern Division I mean it was It was absolutely amazing to to soak up that same. What? What else other than coach? Who else have you read about? Well, I mean just really looking I mean like you know, coach Leach came through the University of Kentucky. At one point you know as an offensive coordinator, wide receivers coach, and really you know changed the game and a lot of wasted the air. Raise your did look at players like Tim Couch. I mean it's it's pretty remarkable. The amount at least. No I agree I've gotten to know tim over the years and of course. You know in the Was it. The forties I think it was the forties. Coach Bryant. was there You're pretty much? That was his first I. Mean He? I think he started at Maryland, but it was at Kentucky that the world Maybe they're. Maybe the fifties with the world I became aware of him. Imagine. How much? Different? The game would be if he would've stayed Kentucky. I think it could be a completely different story for the University of Kentucky and a football outs back if he would've stayed, you know I. Mean I think it'd be completely different to? What the one thing I've always been amazed at and having been there so many times for football games. Is The Passion of college football in the State of Kentucky. UK, and obviously you mentioned Eastern Louisville has had some really good teams with going back to Howard Schnellenberger. I think Lee Corso was at Louisville one time, so I mean it's A. It's a misnomer that it's the. It's only a basketball state. Yeah. I mean I. I will admit I mean really looking at the rich tradition. You know the State House in football. It's pretty remarkable. It really is and I don't think they get enough credit for it why I'm glad. You pointed that out I thank you very very much. And thanks for calling mad is up next in San. Antonio Texas Hey Matt. May, their. Unusual that Matt does not. Answer the bill. I. Tell You what why would you take a break and we'll get back to matt in a few minutes, so we have Stewart. MANDEL coming up here. In a couple of minutes, we mentioned many other guests as well. We'll dig into what the pack twelve is up to with Stewart. He lives out there and we're coming right back much much more. You're listening to the Paul. FINEBAUM show podcast. For businesses around the world. Today isn't to restart. Think, that's they're partnering with IBM to Change How they burn from supply chains to customer service. Let's put smart to work visit. IBM, DOT com slash smart to learn more. We, welcome you back great to have you here and also great to welcome Stewart Mandel. To the program from the athletic sure thanks for the time and here we are I. Think we've we've had many many visits over these last four or five months and I keep saying. I think we're getting to crunch time. I'm curious. Where are we right now? fall I think next week will be a big week for college football. Well starting Friday actually tomorrow the ANC. Board of Governors meeting where they'll decide if they're going to take action on the other faulting, you know every basically every fall championship except F- football, and that could have some ripple effects, but really you know we've heard Greg. Thank you. We've heard pretty much every conference for a few weeks. Now say they ended. July was when they're gonNA. have to make some decisions and that's because. Because training camps about the open training campus scheduled open, and basically two weeks from tomorrow, and obviously now they've all said they need to see. They need to see improvement. Considerable improvement in some of these numbers, the covid nineteen around the country so I don't know whether I don't expect anybody actually can say they're canceling a season by any mean or are they gonNA put hit pause on starting training camp to see if things get better over the next month. That's certainly a possibility. Everyone has contingencies. Those contingencies are starting to narrow to say the least i. read your piece yesterday in the athletic where You came right out and the it you. You don't think the PAC. Twelve is going to play football this year. I think they're. They're certainly going to try I and today Jon. Wilner the Mercury is reporting that they actually have a plan for that conference only schedule, and it would start with ten games start September nineteen, and there's no reason not to proceed with those plans, but there's a lot mining against the PAC twelve. California one of the hardest hit states right now. It's getting worse. By the day certainly Arizona that's how a lot of issues that six of your twelve schools right there and you're also seeing schools in the PAC twelve USC was first cow. I'd expect. Stanford will follow of not having students come back in person in the fall, and not that that's a requirement to play college football, but we only heard that sentiment expressed a few times, and and most of all I can't stress this enough. The political climate in the West is a lot different than other parts of the country and other parts of the country. They're going to be politicians. Who who will go? We'll be pushing and pushing him pressuring schools to play football. It's the opposite out here in the West. There will be politicians who will become very concerned if they think that the student athletes are being put in harm's way in any way, so a lot for that conference to overcome, but I don't expect them to cancel like I said next week or anything like that but now the fact that they are the first one to come out and. They're about to come out and announced that they're delaying started the season by a couple of weeks certainly significant. and. Is that simple. You've already laid it out, but is that. Is that the only thing they can do right now? Because nobody nobody wants to say, we're not playing, do they? Yeah, nobody wants to be first. That's for sure I think that around college football. You know it's easy for me to say like I was just playing the spring, and here's a plan, and if you're actually the people who have hundreds of millions of dollars at stake, and and there's no certainty by the way that things will be any better in January or February, so the date that for instance California. High schools have already come out and and push things to December at the earliest probably January people enough BS football. There's so much money at stake. There's so much connected to this that they're going to try everything possible to play this fall, and so because of that I could definitely see us enter a period of a lot of You know, stop and start a lot of while we're about to start training camp. If things aren't at the right rate star, proceed with announced. We're going to pause for two weeks and then you get two weeks, and maybe you have to pause for another two weeks or pause for a month that the only thing that nobody in college football has come out and said what he'd acts, and they say we need to see improvement, but no bs had what what does that look like? Are you looking for? Hospitalizations to reach a certain number or number of new cases, you know. Is it the numbers within your program, or are you more concerned about within the community around you? I just get the sensors that just kind of like. Waiting for somebody else to tell them to give them the okay nobody wants to be the first to. They were definitely doing it and nobody wants to be the first therapy, not doing. and. Let's talk this seconds to because you know. Your best guess that the Board Tamara will will not vote or we'll wait. I know they've been asked not to and if they do vote what happens. You know you you may have seen that the that Shane. Lyons the West Virginia ad on behalf of the football oversight committee sent them a letter, urging them not to have that vote yet to give them more time to explore football, so because of that I think college football in the power. Five in particular is basically running the MTA right now and I. think that they probably respect those wishes and hold off pulling vote I, do think. Think at some point they will probably cancel those fall championships especially. If you think about FCS five of thirteen FCS, competency canceled Paul Football so now one of those the Ivy Leagues it's not part of the playoff, but you know worked for how many conferences do you have to have to have a legitimate playoff? You know I would think at some point. They would say There's there's just too many that aren't going to be participating Now that doesn't mean that they have to. Necessarily the FBI's to follow suit but I think a lot of this comes down to optics, and there are certain domino's that would fall. That would make it harder for them to publicly justify playing football this fall, and certainly a big one would be the MTA decided that it's not safe to play volleyball. Championship Soccer Championship and all these things. If that's the case, why would it be safe to football? Stewart Marc. Emmers has been a literal Panatta lately, not lately for for some time. I'm wondering. Maybe this is the Machiavelli in mind of mine I mean. Do you think it's possible that could you know flat out and come out and say I don't think we should have college football in the fall knowing that he really doesn't run it, but at least he's on the record of having said it. Yeah I mean. You're right that he doesn't. He doesn't have the power. That's been clearly obvious. Over the past few months they had that hearing in ten now Washington yesterday about and I and I, l., but it drifted into the congressman, asking some questions about current events. And at some point, somebody asked him about schools requiring their players to sign waivers, you know of of liabilities from if they catch cove it and he said no I. Don't think the schools should be doing that and you sit there and you go, but you're the president. I don't think the schools should be doing it. Can't you tell? Can't you stop them? And the answer is no the inmates running the asylum when it comes to NCA membership, so yeah I mean he could. If he feels like that would put the pressure on them. We could come out and say that but I don't think he would because again like the members hold more power than him and if If he upsets the wrong people and I think this is a big part of the tiger. He walks you the wrong people could. They could fire him so grace. Thank you bye. Oh, there's a lot more powerful right now than mark. Amherst so were the other four power five commissioners. They are basically going to dictate the terms by if they play football when they'll play football and protocols, but You've alluded to the political nature of the West. So that leaves four four, remaining the SEC, the the ACC, the the big twelve, and obviously the big ten of that group. Do you think the big ten is the most likely? To break away from the others, or do you think everyone is is in this for as long as they can go? Well I think the big kind of the pack. Twelve were pretty closely aligned as evidenced by the timing of their their conference schedule, announcing the interesting thing about the big ten. Is that that part of the country's not where we're having issues right now? So whatever their their president's eighties feel I don't think that they are dealing with. The same situation schools in California are the schools in Texas the schools in Florida Yeah, so I! Don't know that there's a you know a pressure point right now. It's demanding. The big ten canceled their season. I think they are in position to to keep keep trying. It'll be interesting to see when they unveiled their version of what the Pactel's about unveil. Are they thinking the same thing? Ten Games? Nine Games a later start date I think that will give you a little bit of thinking into where the big ten how they feel about the state of things right now. I finally let me get you to the SEC. Stewart because. You Know Sankey has been very public lately. He was on real sports the other day. He's been on here and ESPN. Countless other places Saying all the right things but you contradict that with Sankey said about two weeks ago when he was extremely concerned about the conditions, which by the way are getting worse. They're not getting better. Where do you think he is right now? Because you know, he's got a football starved public, but He also bills with fourteen presidents. Who may have a different opinion? I I think everybody is in it together. The the politicians, the president's Sankey everybody realizes the the The enormity of actually making a decision to not play football in the SEC. I mean it's just a whole different animal than it is. Certainly the other conferences, and so I mean my guess is. They will just keep putting it down the road until the pasta can't possibly do it anymore. I couldn't tell you what would be the event. That would make it impossible. I don't think they know that themselves. It does seem like there's a lot of resistance. Maybe a bit surprisingly so to playing in the spring. The way you hear, it talked about kind of whispered about in the SEC versus the other parts of the country is that it's just not an option you know. We play in the fall or we don't play which I find hard to believe I think they will if they had to, they would but it's all kind of All follows the same narrative of I. Don't think they're gonNa let anybody else tell. Yes, he's not gonNA. Tell them that they can or can't play football this fall and I don't think they're gonNA. Cancel it unless they absolutely have to I. think that would be a situation where you could see I'm. Not if they don't feel comfortable doing it in early September. Then maybe they push it too early October work still not comfortable, then maybe push to mid October and I. Don't know what's the last possible date. You can start a football season and still get it in I I don't know, but I know the sec very last one to to decide. They can't do it. Stewart before you go, it's almost become a parlor game trying to predict the percentages and I don't i. don't know I mean I I've been asked the same question that we've all been asked, and and it's. It's different every day you talk about it, but. I mean realistically. Are we looking? Is it more likely that we have a delayed start? Assuming we're assuming that we're having a season, but but the the in terms of Labor Day. Is that ship starting to sail? I think so I now. I say that in on the same day that the that came out the back twelve gonNA play. September nineteen became TCU is about to schedule a week zero August, twenty ninth game against you. You know the we talked about this when you came on our show Paul. Just we're operating in two different universities right now where some people are kind of accepting reality and making plans other plowing full speed ahead. Ahead I don't think it'd be playing. Labor Day weekend 'cause I require starting training camp in about two weeks from today, and is the situation our country get that considerably better or two weeks I can't see I mean it starts improving for sure, and we are starting to see the the case. Numbers go down some of the key states, but it's not gonNA be radically different two weeks from now if I had to get. My opinion on this changes every week as the situation changes is that are most. are most likely scenario is some sort of delayed. Shorten season in the fall. I think that the people in College football rather do that than pundit to the spring. And I, also think most people say it or not realize that a full twelve game schedule starting September fifth is is no longer in the cards. Meanwhile tickets are available for that week. Zero game TCU. It's great to have you on. Thank you so much for making time. All right thanks much call you bet stewart. Mandel gave us the political situation out West. And you heard Everything's a prediction right now, but you were starting to hear qualifiers, and if a decision has to be made next week Stewart is clearly indicating what he thinks will happen. We'll take a break. Get your reaction to all of that. When we come back. You're listening to the Paul Finebaum show podcast. And we are back and Joseph is in New York. You're on the Air Hey Joseph. Hey! Bob How are you today is? Taking my call, thank you I'm a respiratory therapist. In New, York, Proud Auburn, graduate wonder, take this there is there is nothing like sec football I have a bit less to see games in the swamp in Nielsen, you know, and I have to say this, you know. Football can't happen. It can't happen this fall as much as we want to. Because we know that this decision is strictly with the administrators and the ABC's, but we keep forgetting under those helmets, our kids. Kids not grown adults living making millions of dollars. Kids and my plea is. You know to the parents to the parents of these kids. You know. It's not a bad Mr. Finebaum is a child on a dive this virus. On, one of these teams, it's not a matter if it's win, and when that happens, and as much as I would loved Love Football Start Trust me you know so much about sec football that is at is so much greater than any other conference on Saturday all of this out the. But we have to concentrate now on twenty twenty one and leave twenty twenty behind. You know we have to get ourselves together. Control this virus and bring these kids back in an absolute safe environment. Yeah I I make this point to find bombing. Appreciate it and I'll go. You know I I came down to the emergency room in my hospital a couple of weeks ago, I remember being in the emergency room and I noticed that a lot of the beds that we usually crowded with were empty. And I made a point to one of the nurses Mr Firebomb and I said you know Oh. We're clear now. Must be getting better and the nurse turned to me and said No. Those patients died. And it's it's something that we really have to think about because these kids now. That we're going to send back to play. Football are nothing but the gladiators and the administrators and the. And President are nothing but Caesar's and it's thumbs up, they live. Sums up they die. Let's bring these kids back in an absolute safe environment in twenty twenty one. Let's make sure that we follow the CDC's rules and you know. Let's make SEC football. What it's supposed to be because even if we play in fall, you know and I know it in every sec fan knows it's not gonna be the same on Saturdays okay. War Eagle and I appreciate mystifying bomber. Thanks Mary very much the so nice of your call. We stay in New York two calls in a row Mike on Long Island Mike. Thanks great to have you on. April how you doing first time caller. Thanks for taking my call. Thank you friend that was on before actually touched on the points I wanted to talk about I. Think in respect to the to the last caller I think that we are going to have some form of college for pull something that's going to be played, but my question to you is I'm curious about your expertise on this. How do you feel about the smaller market teams? That is scheduled to play these big teams. Now this there's a lot of revenue involved, and these teams depend on this money, and it trickles down to a sports in in the curriculum and as I said I. Mean You have teams just just throw two names that you can have Alabama play Tennessee Chattanooga and these teams depend on this money. This is money that they've waited for waiting for these games. How do you feel going to? Jump in because of time that is going to be the biggest casualty of all of this assuming that there is a season. The. Swag teams like alcorn. We had the the announcer on the other day from there some of these smaller schools that. That that have to have the money. If they don't have the money, they're going to struggle. They're going to lose that and and it's not going to be made up in the spring very easily. I don't I. Don't think there's an easy answer for that. Because these small schools just don't have the means. As the bigger schools do you so much for the call hate to run? 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September seventh through the twelfth, their play a ten ten plus one conference game. So one big. have. Not announced starting time although they have several schools at least two starting on October August twenty eighth the big ten announced today they'll start September third. That's a Thursday night packed weld twenty six or September the SEC the twenty sixth of September American. Sunbelt. On the twenty ninth. So some schools will start on the twenty ninth of August, the SEC start on the twenty sixth of September. Yes. There's a lot of chatter going on right now. Among coaches and. Fans big ten players have responded to what the PAC twelve players had to say the other day they have issued this on behalf of the college. Half a big time players. This was in the Players Tribune quoting our deeply disappointed with a lack of leadership demonstrated by the NCWA with respect to player safety during cove it we believe that the. The. On its own and through collaboration with the conference, devise a comprehensive plan to ensure the safety and wellbeing a players leading up to and during the upcoming fall season. The NC Double A., which is known for its zeal for regulations and enforcements. Has had ample time to prepare for the safe return of its athletes to calm competition yet, it has done nothing. These are student athletes saying that not talk show host its Loz airfare approach is forcing each conference in each school to create its own plan resulting in inconsistent policies, procedures, and protocols a major statement about players against mark, emery and. The NC Double A.. Incredible to think about this statement on the surface, this is continuing that they want oversight and transparency on health and safety issues adherence to World Health. So, whol that's an organization that the government right now has withdrawn from and CDC guidance for Sporting. Events. In season testing three times per week with the media quarantine of any person who tests positive or exhibit symptoms whistle blower protection this really important. And Scholarship and eligibility protections very interesting day in the big ten their voice. Voice has definitely been heard. Well, you would expect the NCW to finally say something well, they haven't said very much but the NCW board of Governors has. Allowed divisions. One two and three to make a determination on their own by August twenty third schools must adhere to federal state and local Kobe guidelines student athlete CH- allowed to opt out due to concerns. So against double A.. As usual. Late. Heatherton has covered all of this. Brilliantly for ESPN over these very many months and heather is joining us now heather. Thank you i. don't even know where to start. Let's start with the NC double because that was the story of yesterday we were expecting something to happen. You didn't think. D. One would come in and nobody came in what exactly is going on here. Right, no news yesterday they pushed it to tomorrow to this morning and essentially they pushed it again to the presidents of those respective divisions to make their own determinations by late August division three has already canceled. So they've already done that and I think that was an easy in expected move by many people because so many sports teams in division three at that level had already cancelled a lot of things. So the next question is, can everyone meet the requirements at the NCWA laid out today to actually have their fall championships? I thought one of the things that was also interesting Paul in that release at the NCWA put out is they essentially are also establishing. A Call Line for whistleblowers, basically, parents, students, athletes, anybody else who wants to call in and say, Hey, things aren't being done right here. That is also going to be a part of the NCAA system. So a lot of different things in terms of the board of governors, but they put it back in the hands of division, one and division two division three to make their own decisions by the end of the month. Heather this is a leadership group consisting as you have told us before. Prominent people including presidents Why especially in in the highest level of competition? Why do they keep kicking? The can down the road at a critical time Well Shane Lyons, who is the chair? The football oversight committee actually wants them to keep kicking the can down and so do most of the conference commissioners and Athletic Directors of the power fog, the group of five What is it? Twenty? Twenty, two of Twenty, seven of thirty two conferences wrote a letter last week a couple of weeks ago saying please have patience and doing this and they want the NC double a board of governors to have patients because they're trying to have sports they're still. Trying to play and they're saying look if we are doing everything, we can and bending over backwards to present these student athletes with a safe way to compete during the season. Please don't put the brakes right now on a fall championship because if if they can do that, they should be allowed to try to compete for a national championship as well. So a lot of people were saying please just have patients and not invalidate all the work that we've done to try to get a fall season started. Speaking Fall Season of the University of Connecticut, which is between leagues and really on the dark side of the Moon announced today that it's not going to compete this year I it doesn't really too much in motion. But when the story came out, it did seem to make a lot of people jittery. And you would expect that to because it's the FBI conference that's actually coming out and saying, Hey, we're not gonNA play football this fall that opens people's eyes right. But I don't think it's going to have a snowball effect every style to several athletic directors in three different power five conferences this morning in each one of them. Back. The exact same thing which was they think this is unique to uconn because of its financial circumstances, it struggles that it's had football. Wise. And don't forget the players said, we would like to save our eligibility and use it at a time when it safer. But UCONN owes seventeen million dollars to the American athletic conference till. So when you think about the Of testing not just football players but every athey at least once a week, all of those things are factors in that decision and quite frankly unique to uconn circumstances. Heather you've covered the sport a long time I've covered longer than any personal live and I don't remember I can't even remember the last big headline because every time you we start adjusting something early this morning. There's another ten things that have happened in the most recent today is Louisville being yet another program that has shut down I don't have all the details. It looks like based on what I've read. You may know more that players went to a party and they have. Nearly thirty positive tests is that correct? I. Heard. I'm with you I feel like it's an episode of the. In. People people went to a party and they got sick I mean. It's not going to be the last time that we're going to hear this, and it's it's a lesson and I've said from the beginning some coaches, I've talked to have said this a plan meaning following CDC health guidelines not going to parties and things like that discipline. This year might be the biggest team advantage that anybody will have. And and I'm not joking about this because we're talking about a virulent disease I. Mean we've all heard the same story so many programs that had such high numbers. that some of these protocols may not matter by the time we get to the season, the PAC twelve. There's also news Fr- from them. There has been stories all week long about what's happening out there and I would like to just briefly kind of take us through where we are the Mercury News and John Milner reporting that they are borrowing money to protect themselves which. Isn't a bad idea. What do you know about this? Well just honestly just about as much as you do I saw Williams report on twitter pop up earlier. But I had a chance to talk to two PAC twelve players earlier this week and they talked about how this is an opportunity not just to issues about health concerns for players during covid nineteen but also everything that we're talking about post career medical and health insurance. Social injustices, everything that you can think of this has opened the door to bring that to the forefront of discussions, and now the big ten is seeing the same thing I talked to. Kevin Warren about it. Today, he spent on Monday two hours on zoom call with A. To student athletes from each school. So the more you see this, the more you can expect to hear empowerment and voices coming from the student athletes which quite frankly we haven't heard enough of I don't think. Heather. Before you go we put up a graphic a few minutes ago and went through. Starting on the twenty ninth of August up until the twenty six in the Sec in the PAC twelve I mean predictions are absurd at this point. But if if if we actually get to that date and start seeing these games and it goes without a hitch, that is just the most bizarre maybe predictable. Start of a season from from August twenty ninth to September. Twenty six What, what what what does that say if anything about where we are right now? Well I think it's exactly a microcosm of where we are nationally and you know probably you and I talked about this in March and April. Just about how this is what it could look like a patchwork of games and different conferences doing their own thing because at some point as much as the commissioner talk and they try to stack hands on this, they have to do what's best in terms of the medical advice they're getting. In their independent regions, right. So you're seeing disparities and you know Kevin warned told me today that if a team is quarantined an entire team in the big ten, we're talking about two Saturdays of Miss Games. That's what their schedule allows this flexibility for. So all of those things are factors that were considered in the varying scheduling models that we've seen. But at the end of the day, they all got pretty close the same thing. Kevin Warren before you go. A He is certainly left a lot of doors open as other commissioners have but but what's your take away from the conversation with him in terms of I know what the schedule says. But what do you think he's indicating? In your conversations. Well. He's been very clear and upfront that this season might not happen. He said, we have a schedule in place and I felt comfortable releasing it today but that was today and that could change tomorrow. He said they had to have a plan obviously, and so they put one out and they felt comfortable doing when we did but we've all gotten. So wrapped up in the news and the conference scheduled being out over the last week and a half that it is kind of gotten lost in the discussion that this might not happen at all and I think every conference commissioner is still very prepared for that reality. Heather. Thanks I. Know of s you pretty much the same questions times two, thousand, but every day. There are different answers. Thanks you for coming. All Tamar. Always great to visit. Thanks. Heather dentists show with the latest and we are off to a for quite a roller coaster ride and they don't miss it. We we have a lot to do and including an athletic director from the will join us a little bit later on. We'll try to get as much information as possible on yet another breakneck day in college football and it's early August. We'll be right back you're listening to the Paul Finebaum show podcast. We welcome you back to the program and great to have you, and we will get to your phone calls finally at eight, five, five, two, four, two, seven, two, eight, five by the way like going on today in and around the University of Alabama board of trustees moments ago. A proved a raise for Steve Sarkissian the schools offensive coordinator he was making one point six, five, million dollars. He's now making two point, five, million he is the highest paid assistant coach. In the. Let's continue with phone calls here and check in with. Brian in Florida. Brian thanks and good afternoon. Thank you Paul. Good to speak again. Thank you. Talk to you briefly yesterday about the growing power of Of Players Right apparently you're the PAC twelve forty. Put out a statement in big ten is already drawing up representatives from each school. So there's no doubt. This will get you every conference. So you whatever leave demands. Or requirements are GONNA Happy Meshed up with what the NC Double A. announced today and It's unfortunately going to be one one giant headache and. If we're lucky enough in my opinion, even see kick off when it's supposed to happen. The powers that be are going to be playing the world's largest. Game because every day. is going, to be. Another. Set of issues. That are going to need attention. You know within that twenty, four hour cycle. And I WANNA. See you know kick off as much as anybody else is going to be there. Getting this thing to go to stay on. Brian. I think the challenge is is keeping it going I I think. I don't think these people. Would be. Laying down, markers. In relation to to starting dates, they didn't think they would get there. It would make no sense right? Right. But I think just when you the amalgamation of all this bad news. It's a lot to deal with. Take the Louisville Story. You can preach patients all you want. But let your players go to a party and Twenty, eight, twenty, nine, get covid. We've heard that movie before in and I'm not criticizing anyone. I was. A nineteen year old once, and I would have gone to the party too. So I can't put it out and bobby down the same as for saying back in the day. Disciplined one football games on the navy winning. Championships every year. I mean there's only you can have all these protocols and Disinfectant enhance sanitation. And all this stuff and all it takes one party to wreck the whole thing and well, and that's that's really sad. But it's also the reality of this college football This is not professional football. I agree and you know fraternity row is still open on most campuses. Two things I agree with you on Yukon if a one off, they were without a conference for this anyway now, do they made the right call conference? Yeah. Now there's all kinds of other issues going on with that school. There's a book to be written about how they're missing the atmosphere, their entire athletic department, but this has nothing to do with the day. They're they're homeless and there's no way you're GONNA get ten games or anybody know last thing. every gets to it. I have heard that the Florida Georgia gain. Is still in Jacksonville. And no one's talked about moving to Athens because they're the home team this year. And I would be ready surprised I don't get the point of them flying down. To play an empty stadium when they can just stay on campus. And the unless you heard something otherwise that's why. I've. Heard the same thing. But right now we don't know where that game is on the schedule. So it's it's really difficult to. Make a prediction on that. Hey, thank you for the call I, really do. Paul thank you always great to have you on Charles up next in Birmingham Charles. How are you my friend? How you doing Charles I hope you've been doing better I know the last time we talked to you, you're having a little bit of problem. I'm feeling a lot better. Great to hear a lot better. Yes, sir. Oh well, I was calling me about that wanted to get your personal failures opinions about this up and coming kind of football fee than and pro football season listening on pro football talk this morning about you know Detroit Lions quarterback you know that he was tested positive for the with nineteen, and now they're saying that he's mega. And all I WANNA get your opinion about you know. You see this season play out this you know. You mean the college or pro. Either one either one you know you know kind of pro. You know I think I. Think they're both seriously challenged I. Think the NFL has a much better chance of pulling it off because they they have a little bit more control by the way not a lot more control once you get to the season, but they have so much money. I think the upper echelon college football could possibly pull this thing off Charles but I think. Outside, of the SEC, every team can handle it. Most of the big ten schools. But once you get to a certain point, I think a lot of programs. They don't fold their tent now they will at some point they just can't afford it. Right. Now. He ACC Rowan the fans go to the game. Right now trolls I don't think there's a specific or definitive answer on that athletic directors have all said whatever they have said. Ultimately, that is going to be a state guideline where you're in Alabama. So it's up to the governor. To determine whether Alabama and Auburn fans can go in any right now I've heard. Fifteen maybe fifteen twenty thousand on the high end. But it really depends on on the circumstances at that particular. Moment Charles Thank you very much for the call we have to go to a break. Very busy work guests are coming into. Thank you. great to have you on. We'll be right back with much much more. Listening to the Paul Finebaum show podcast. Well, a lot of conversation all day yesterday today wasn't the world is the big ten going to do and nobody better than Teddy Greenstein from the Chicago Tribune. It's been too long since we've talked to Teddy, but we have followed him very closely. And Teddy. It's great to welcome you back to the program and I'm going to get out of way, go outside and let you tell us what in the world is going on from from eight Z from rutgers to the big ten announcement today how are you? May is great to be back with you you know everything's doing great in the big ten rutgers only twenty eight positive tests and who knows what they're going to start practising again, Michigan state the whole team is in quarantine out here by me northwestern at one positive case. But because of contact tracing, they got a couple dozen players who were quarantined meanwhile the big ten. Attempting, to plow ahead and come out with a schedule that you know says they're going to start playing on September fifth. So I say good luck and I. Hope it happens. Let's let's talk about the disruptions I and I know what they did today and you can't blame a conference for going ahead and announcing schedule. Fans do do enjoy the red meat of knowing when the Games are even if they're not really going to be on those days. How how concerning is this and I've read some of your pieces recently where you have suggested it Kevin Warren could shut things down. Well, I mean take. That process right now. Yeah I, mean Paul I really thought because of some stuff that happened in the last few days that they were teetering on the brink of doing that you don't Jim Delany Brilliant Commissioner but I think he would have approached this pandemic consider all let's do everything we possibly can to fulfil this TV contract Kevin Warren comes in and he's talking about student you know health safety and wellbeing before any of this he's somebody who really is touch his son powers I'm sure as you know as tight end permissive state sheriff so he really Has a good feel I think for student athlete. So you know the last few days the rutgers situation, and then you heard of course about that Indiana mom, the mom of the incoming freshman offensive Lineman who says, Hey, my son at fourteen days of hell going through Kovic and he might have long term heart issues and to me that was really significant because for all the people out there who say, Oh, these are all you know strong able bodied young people who are not being hospitalized will now you've got a mom saying. This is serious stuff. So give it all that given all the fact that they're know possible threats of lawsuits and players opting out and all that. Yeah. I I would certainly pleasantly surprised the schedule came out. But as Kevin told me last night certainly, no guarantee that these games going to be played what would push him I, ultimately, I I I suppose Teddy. It's the President's Although Kevin Warren seems to be flexing his muscle maybe more than than any other commissioner out there What would it take to tip this whole thing over? You know I just think we're so close I think if there are enough players who are vocal on social media and say, we want to do this. We don't feel safe if there are a lot of parents who come out and say it, and then if there is a continuation of big ten schools that have to shutdown practice I mean so far it's been six of the fourteen that have at least had the paused their workouts and you know currently it's North Western, Michigan State and Rutgers, I think those are. The three. So you know there are no students on campus yet and we haven't even had a full practice, a full contact practice yet, and we already had these flare ups. So if we've got more flare ups, they think the president, the chancellors are going to say, you know what? We really want that sixty million to one hundred, million dollars in revenue, but it just can't happen I think the NFL's fifty fifty and those are professional athletes and you're to worry about them going into a classroom or a dorm. Teddy we joke a lot about SEC versus big ten. I'll be careful how I say this because I know I'm going to give a chance just to flatten me depending but the SEC has not shut down any practices yet so far. and. It's something I've talked about because we we don't We have SEC. Schools are not releasing the information I don't know how many big ten schools are, but it seems like enough of them have and you mentioned one one positive. That's a good day someplace. That's right. Yeah I mean I. Think you wanted me to say it just means more I mean that's what we know about the SEC, and then we certainly know about the big twelve which is plowing ahead and there were a lot of people who responded to my North Western story by saying one positive. How can that possibly stop practice but you know North Western following very strict protocols which says. Anybody who was in six six feet of that player over a certain period of time must be quarantined for a couple of days they all must be negative. Now you do have other schools like I think is at eighteen positive tests and they haven't had to pause their practices at all and I think that's part of why you know you have these player movements. Now that are saying, wait a second, what are the rules of the protocols or we gotta be safe and and that's where I wanna go next because. We've now seen two players. groups come out. How would you characterize what we heard today from the big ten players? Yep I would say today was like a light version of what PAC twelve had demanded. You know this was much less hostile certainly more reasonable. There's no threat of a boycott. There's no demand for revenue sharing. This is really about health and safety and I gotta say, I, mean they have an advocate in Kevin Warren if you WANNA have a commissioner who's GonNa listen to you. This is the guy and just off the phone with him. And one thing he told me was I'm not only encouraging communication I'm embracing it. So he wants to set up meetings with these groups unlike you feel like a guy maybe like Larry Scott who makes you know five million bucks a year and really doesn't care what the players think Kevin absolutely does and I think the demand reflect that that you know they see him as an advocate and they just want to attempt to do to safely. Before. We go and I know there've been pointing jokes today about the the Ohio State Michigan game being early and all these things I. It's in terms of the start of the big ten season it does seem aspirational to start. On September third your thoughts based on your conversations with Warren based on your reporting. I mean, do you think will really see the big ten season start on that date? I mean I don't think we'll see the big ten season started. All mean I'm in that group of people who has been saying I think you've been treading this way for the last several weeks that he to me it's just basically inconceivable You know the bubble sports, the the NBA The NHL absolutely. They've figured out a way to do it. golf has been raging success but when you're talking about football A. Contact Sport and you know hundreds of teams with hundreds of players and you can't tell them. You can only spend time in the football complex or in your apartment I mean I feel like with NFL guys you could do that. This is their livelihood they are paid professionals, but you can't do that with college kids. So I will be pretty shocked if there's any big ten football let alone of at first week. Saturday. Teddy. Greenstein. Thank you. Thank you. Teddy. Hey I'm never disappointed with you. And I hope I hope you'll come back and I won't say I hope you're wrong because you know what's going on up there and I think your point about Kevin. Warranties. So interesting I talked to him before about his son at Mississippi state and he is passionate and that's that's interesting and it's a little I mean everyone else talks a good game but but he seems to be implementing it. Well believe me I hope I'm dead wrong. You know I'm one of these guys who makes his livelihood on college for Fathers and nothing I love or other than cover the masters in covering, College Football I just think we're looking at it. You know some people are looking at a more realistically than others but Kevin, going to be interesting. He certainly represents the presidents and chancellors who don't want to give up that money so quickly but I wonder in the back of his mind if he's saying, wait a second, what are we doing here? None of this is really realistic. So we'll see how it shakes out nicotinic great to have you on and. This is someone who went to a big ten school covered the big ten brilliantly and. There you go. It's you gotta you ever commissioner up there who is in his first year by the way replacing most legendary commissioners in History Jim Delany. His words speak for themselves. What Teddy just got three saying we'll take a break more to come on. We're only forty one minutes into the program feel like we've been here all day back with your phone calls after this. You're listening to the Paul Finebaum show podcast. Comeback Busy Day let's grab some calls in Sandy in Chicago. Hello. Sandy. Paul how are you? I am well, thank you. Thank you very much. you and I spoke about a couple of weeks ago and we were talking about how it was your opinion and my opinion and to other people out there thinking there's no way that the university presidents. Were ever going to agree. To allow season to occur in the midst of so much uncertainty. and. I'm just amazed now that we're two weeks later paw. And here we are. And none of the university presidents have taken a stand yet certainly not in public. The fact that we're still having this conversation two weeks after we were having. And University presidents have not come out and just said enough stop talking. It's it's it's the only one who's looking out for the athletes right now are the athletes the adults in the room. Are Acting like kids. And only the kids are left to look out for the kids. And it's just. Very Ironic I. It's it's. Cold. Is. It's exposing the moral bankruptcy of F. B.. S. University. Leadership. And I'm talking all the way from coaches. Were still denying. that. The viruses that bad that they worry more about. Chickenpox or things like that. But all the way from a DIS commissioners now sadly, presidents now, one of your ear, your last caller was talking about the you know big time commissioner Kevin warn sounds like a decent fellow but. The problem and let's let Kevin. You know maybe be a hero throughout this decision process, but there's two questions. That university presidents, commissioners these coaches. Need to answer their obvious questions, they're clarifying questions and they expose this moral bankruptcy that currently exists and it's really simple Paul I. Wish I wish he would ask every adult. WHO's involved in the process commissioners eighty whatever every interview just start off with these two simple questions. And then the rest of the interview almost doesn't need to happen first question. What are the long term health effects of this novel virus? The answer is we don't know because it's a novel virus. We don't know anything long-term about it yet. Second question what percent of your football student athletes will contract this novel virus during a game practice. I'm just curious in your and by the way I would like to add one more to your list how many have already contracted. Exactly Yeah, I know people getting tired of me pushing that but. I I don't I I applaud universities that are being transparent is ugly as it is. But at least you're giving, we're getting an idea and and I every time I say this people say, well, how do you know but? The numbers are very high and a lot of places I mean that's self explanatory. I'm not identifying any school because that's not my job but I am concerned about some of the disregard for it at particular places and by the way of all people. Sitting in this chair working for this network. I understand the importance of. Revenue, in Big Time College Athletics How could I not work for I'm I'm I'm involved in the southeastern conference network and I work for ESPN I I mean. Nobody does more college football than ESPN nobody has a bigger stake in it that has nothing to do with the question though the question is, what are we doing and are we are we being transparent about it and why why is it? As you said sanity? Why is it the athlete who raising these issues? Why aren't the adult raising these issues? The adults are too busy talking about ticket sales and I'm cautiously optimistic. We'll have a full stadium and. We're looking for another opponent because we don't want to lose the two million dollars. That's that's what I hear from the from so-called adults in the room. Yeah I. Think I think the athletes are ticked off Paul and Really no I think it's accurate. It is accurate I don't want to use the word I think mean we're hearing from them now for the very first time. Thank you very much for the call. Okay call again SEAN is up. Next. In Alabama Hello Sean. Sean you're on the air. Hey Hey there. How are you? I'm doing well. Hey I've got a question for you and actually I got two questions. One quick one in one. I'd like you to elaborate on a little bit. With all these school with all the different start dates and stuff sec put, there's off to the twenty six. The big ten apparently starting to play the third is that correct? the big ten will play the first week of the season yes. Yes and then although the all these other little little conferences that you know. My question is I mean I I agree with the big T and then the other ones. I. Think it needs to start the beginning of September that way. If you have a hiccup or to at least a couple extra open dates to you know to make up games but. The whole thing this he c- could literally not even play a game. Due to the fact that they're putting, there's off. Because if the rails and goes off the real. I mean there's way that we're GONNA play. Correct why I would agree with you on that if if you see a an accumulation of. Three or four conferences shutting down before the twenty six and the SEC would not start I think that would be very unlikely. So I mean the argument and I know there's a lot of dispute, right? I think some of us from coaching coaches are saying walk you're leaving us at a competitive disadvantage by starting. So late in relation to the SEC title game and the College Football playoff. On the other hand, the SEC in many people's eyes looks very cautious saying we are going to wait. We're going to watch the first three weeks of the season learn from it, and hopefully be able to get our season off in a reasonable fashion. Well, you can learn all you want to but. From, you know the five months that we've been in this already. There's one thing about covert that I've learned and surely to goodness every other human being alive has learned that. You really can't learn a whole lot but because anything can happen any day everything could be fined today in completely gone tomorrow. So Well no argument there. Hey, thanks appreciate the call. We're heading to break teddy teddy with his earlier we have more gas to come. We'll. We'll get. We'll dig a little bit deeper into that Colorado State story in the next hour we hope you'll stick around.

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And now those fans would be lucky to get in the stadium wearing a mask. We'd be lucky to have games. You're right. So. Look, here's my I'm GONNA give you a couple of strong takes right off the bat number. One what we're seeing with baseball I think we have to accept that if we're going to have any college sports whatever sport you want to choose, that's what has to happen in other words. If a team has an outbreak whatever you WANNA, call it enough players to say we're not playing. like the marlins right now. You take them out of the mix. You don't play you. Come back when you're ready. And those games just not recorded, and they're not, and they may not be made up and we're going to have an unequal number of. of you know the records aren't going to be an equal number, and you'd have to go by percentage, and you know if this guy. I've just using Jampel, not the fuel the fire, but hypothetically if it happened you know right before an Alabama Auburn game then you don't play it and one of the teams doesn't play, but they come back. You know whatever two weeks later and if there's more games after that I mean normally I know there aren't but you know I. Mean I think that's the we have to accept that there. If we're GONNA do this, they're going to be teams. That may take themselves out of the mix, and there may be multiple teams, and you're just GonNa have to move on That's number one number two I have said this privately last couple of weeks based on our our conversations on our social series, double A. Dot Com on twitter, and all these other. You know different interviews. I've been doing and interviewing. I still believe it comes down to the SEC. I think I'm not just saying this because You know with you and love your program and and. Think so much of you and and everyone at the SEC network I just think it comes out of the SEC and if the SEC plays, I can't see a scenario where the big ten the big twelve, the ACC and the PAC twelve take a past They may not say that public because they have their own constituencies, but I don't see them not playing. If the SEC plays conversely, if the SEC sit out, I, find it very hard. All those little leagues will play either. That's that's quite a start here Andy. Let's talk about I wanted to go back to something minute ago. I if we get an outbreak I know you're dealt with a doctor hotline and so many other people in terms of protocol. What type of system do we have built in where there is integrity in knowing whether or not? We have a serious situation in college athletics. Well the difference here is You've got public institutions. And they are. they serve the state and the government and the governor, and so that's why now there plenty of private institutions, obviously, and that's to be another issue, but the majority of these high profile schools are speed institution so I find it very hard that a Michigan Ohio state You know you see away in Alabama. you know could actually hide. their positive cases. There's an outbreak because they have to report it to state, and those are you know I mean and so I don't see how those kind of numbers could be hidden and allow you know. Allow a team to go forward. the thing that is going to be very interesting in football that you don't have in baseball. You don't have in basketball because you know the numbers is we have this when ads Shane Lines on our program, the West Virginia de. Football Oversight Committee. We had him on last week with Bryan hainline for two weeks ago. and they were adamant with their resocialization plan. That football coaches should have. A practice plan and conduct their program basically like there's two teams so your first string and your third stringer together your second in your fourth, and they shouldn't meet. They should live in parallel lives. Because if you have an outbreak, you can hopefully just basically leave that other group aside and play with the other group, and so in your position meetings you wouldn't and actually had someone at Arkansas, told me this one of the athletic directors they. They. They actually brought their position people into one of their small conference rooms and showed him. Okay, we have A. if you guys test positive, then literally there are no quarterback because you're all in this tiny room and so position meetings would be held in you know either an outdoor space spread out. You know in practice facility somewhere. We can really distance so that you're never in a position where you'RE GONNA lose that entire skill position or Entire line anything like that now we'll do that. Will they adhere to that to try to get through the season? I don't know but it. It probably is the one way that you can get through if you can. You know keep to those Kinda, strict guidelines of almost coaching two separate teams. Chatting with Andy Katz a Andy There's a lot of optimism out there. There's a lot of creative scheduling and all this up against the backdrop of what everyone is dealing with in this country today I'm interested in what you see what you hear and you know especially. How would you react to those critics out there? Who say that college football is making it up as they go along? They don't have a plan and they're trying to keep all this together with some sort of silly gloom. Well I disagree with that I mean because I've talked to the people that actually make decisions and so I just gave you I mean I didn't make that up. That is actually a plan of how to practice so whether or not they'd here to that. That's up. That's up to them because. You, know that's I have to go back to a lot of the criticism and I'm not schilling here from the NCAA. I'm just telling you the backs of what the organization is. They cannot mandate things like this because for example. If you go back to the mask issue, the way they you know the in the socialization. It is suggested recommended that the players would have a neck eater. So when you come to the sideline, you pull it up You know, but you can't mandate because let's say you say that everyone has to do it. Florida. Florida state their state institution. Governing Chrysantus could say you know what. Not On my campus, not on the campus that I oversee. We're not doing that, so you have public institutions with. In states that may have different guidelines and especially medically so that's why they're in a really tough position of trying to mandate. They can suggest it, but they cannot. You know directed and find you or anything like that. If you don't so, there are plans thing and that is a major problem in terms of there isn't a are. There isn't someone who runs the whole sport. which by the way would the SEC want? One person them telling them what to do the same that same person saying what you're gonNA. Do It for the PAC twelve and the big twelve. Twelve and the SEC a lot of people say they want that, but I don't think they really want that. I don't think Sankey and the people in the SEC want someone right above them dictating to them when they're gonNA play, and how they're going to play, and who they're gonNA play I. Don't think they want that I. Think they like having them they are conversing with each other. The thing that is an issue right now. Obviously is the fact that you know the big twelve is rescheduling games you know which is a little odd as we're waiting? Waiting to find out before they even start practicing, but I do think the best case scenario is to spread it out if they want to start August, twenty nine and December nineteen great, because you may have to spread the whole thing out the other scenario is if you're only gonNA play conference games, you by yourself more time you wait till October third or the last week in September just by a little bit more time and start if men and go deep into December, the other key factor Paul and this was mandated This was a football oversight committee deal. Deal which they're all members of in terms of contributing, which is because of muscular skeletal injuries, they want you to at least have that six weeks of practice, and so if you end up pushing the start date further into September October, you will least buying your more time into August before you have to start practice that six week window because they don't want people, heels and you know a hamstring and things like that that supposedly is set, so you're GonNa have to sort of work around that depending upon when you're going to start the season and start practice. You mentioned Mark Cameron in and he gives them comments the other day after the entry level. Amherst name I mentioned the INSTAFLEX I'll mention his name and I mean I want to ask you about the NCWA Board of Governors. Because they were, they met the other day, they were under pressure. according to what reports are including Your mentioned Shane Lyons. Can you help explain this? This next meeting of there is and the significance of it Andy. Well so here's something I disagree with with the Board of Governors It's Division One two and three plus this new exemplary group that includes you know from emporia state to grant hill. To Vague Murphy. WHO's the former surgeon general with under the Obama Administration, so it's this collection of. In addition to these presidents divisions, one two and three I personally don't think this board to make a blanket championship decision for all all division on the fall. I think they are different division. Three by the way has essentially made its own decision by cancelling fall sports, the majority division, three schools are not playing fall sports. Thus there will be no fall championships, so it's Kinda. Look for the board to make some blanket statement of Division One two and three, when one of the three divisions has already made its own mind up on its own, because these institutions and their individuals, attrition conferences have decided not to play sport. So if they decide to cancel championships. I, don't I mean. Could it put pressure on? Yes, but we have to also keep in mind and this is where people forget the. NCW in terms of competition only controls the championships, okay NCAA tournament in terms of actual games, and the championships in the fall, and then if the FCS level not the PS level so technically if they were to cancel soccer championship, for example the College, Cup, that doesn't mean the SEC can't have a conference season. They still can have a conference season. They just won't have a national champion So that's what people have to remember. If this does come to pass veered, just saying we're not going to actually have a championship in December or late November because we're worried about Kobe then, but hey, if you WANNA play games in September November. October. When you're sport. Go ahead because they're not. They cannot mandate that. They don't play the sport before their championship. A I don't know what your relationship is with Mark Emmer, but but I am interested in, and he gave another interview today to Heather, dench and you know he's been consistent Andy On. Skepticism of starting on time all the things that we have discussed. I mean as the president. The NCW should give an opinion. Well I mean he's empowered to do so, but I would also say that You know he works for the president. And I mean I I know we talked and I heard you and you know eloquently. Speak on the matter you know. Countless Times I know you would like to see a different structure and that's fine. But it would have to be different structure. The current structure does not allow for someone to run a sport I'd be fine with that if we could do it, but you would need all the schools to agree to do it You couldn't just have so you know whether it's Mark Hammer whether it's someone else. WHO has that position? Whoever that whoever holds that position still cannot tell Alabama Auburn to talk to. You do what to do. I mean yes they. They have committee for infractions and things like that, but the end she president technically works war. The president's within the membership. That's the structure you know a and and if we want to change it, then the president's are going to have to change it and create something on their own. It can't be changed from Indianapolis. Before you go We talk so much about in commissioners. You mentioned the president's ultimately. They are the final arbiter D-. Do you have any sense of how presidents in general feel about the upcoming college football season when when you, when you juxtapose that with a total confusion over whether we'll have students on campus in anything other than a perfunctory way. I think during an incredible incredibly difficult situation because you have immense financial pressures from all factors of the institution. It's not a job. I would want right now whether it donors you know Athletic Department people or you know donors on the Democrat side Faculty Faculty Senate you know some? Faculty, WanNa, work from. Don't so you know. Students obviously want to be on campus that they WANNA limit. Their activities the the cost. Cost that they're going to have a just in packaging food I mean, think about that Paul. All the food is going to have to be packers and grab and go or serve to you know buffet. I mean there is a cost to that actually putting all the food in packages, and all these costs are going to add up. You Know Plexiglas and times you know the libraries. It open an odd I mean all these different things. There's going to be a huge massive cost, and they have to factor in okay Do we still play athletics, health and safety the pressures of all that so I don't WanNa put myself in their shoes. I think they're in an impossible situation. I think ultimately they do want to play because then alleviates part of the problem, but they know that if it's not safe and they play they're not to them so i. mean clearly you know there's unbelievable pressure to try to get this right. We'll said Andy thanks so much great to have you on. Ball anytime you call Amman, you bet Andy Cats really some incredibly important and compelling comments there we'll take a break mortar com as we roll on here on a Tuesday afternoon. You're listening to the. Paul Finebaum show podcast. Did, you know GEICO's now offering an extra fifteen percent credit on car and motorcycle policies. 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Save an extra fifteen percent when you switch by October seventh limitations apply visit GEICO DOT com for details, and we welcome you back in Jim. Is, up next hey jim. no, I know the drill another show pretty well. How about guys like I'm only got a minute or two? How long have you Jim you all the time you need? and I'm not surprised you call 'cause I. You told me Ricky told me four months ago. Well? That's why I call I. WanNa. Make you know. I think it's important to get everything straight I think the guy's got tremendous zeal for what he I think he's. A lot of percents, ninety, eighty or ninety, maybe more percent right on everything he said, but there's a couple of things it bothered me. That are not correct and one of them is about this rat. that is I add to word. The Bible in in revelation says do not add to the Bible. Do not add any words. He added that that word is deceptive is the sequel because it's a lie, and here's what I'm trying to explain. In in Thessaloniki in the second chapter. It talks about God talks about win win. This is going one this things is. Coming to a conclusion. The the time when he comes back, he's coming back. It cannot happen until the Jewish temple is rebuilt, or you're believe you're aware of the Jewish dip, right? I'm with you on on the mound. Okay, it's got to be rebuilt. It says that could, and then the man sin must sit in the seat. About the blasphemies of all time when he does that. And and that would be the Anti Christ I guess. When. He sits in that seat. Then it's always in can can can this thing be over? And that's what the guys trying to say is the rat, but that that's a false word and he needs to get that straight because I'm telling you all you have to read the last verses of the of revelation which you quoted while ago about that, and he would see long on that now. I know what I'm talking about. Not a doubt in my mind about that so. So anyway, I thought I needed to straighten that out, but otherwise he's he. He seems to have a tremendous amount zeal and I certainly I'm not is like the Bible says they were forced if they're not against their force and I believe that's exactly what ricky is, but so he's got a lot of video, but I just want to correct on a few things there and I think I, did what is were you did a great job I? Appreciate very much. Well. That's my duty Paul I. Really, that's my main duty. If you don't want me I. Do we've had that conversation? Yeah, all right well, thank you, thank you. Okay I feel better about that and I think everyone else does as well well. We are going to take a quick break because we have a very important guests coming up here in a few minutes. He lied drink which the head coach at the University of Missouri will get. A look on how things are going there and we haven't talked to her head football coach a couple of weeks so this. Should be very exciting to have you I on the show. We're coming right back. You're listening to the Paul Finebaum show podcast. It's your home. Speaking and I need you to do me a couple of favors. I could get that blueberry that rolled under the fridge last week. It's throwing funk. hsi-wei off second thing, bundle your home and car insurance with GEICO. It's easy, and we could save money. Lastly I know you're thinking of painting the nursery back to off white, but I'm actually feeling. This baby blue didn't think it was my color, but I am pulling it off Gyco for bundling made easy. Go to GEICO DOT COM today. For back here on a Tuesday afternoon, and we're always alighted to talk to our next guest. You're doing a fantastic job. In his first year at the University of Missouri is you, I drink which in coach thank you for making time We hope you're well. It's been a while How are you? I'm doing great. You know anytime. Paul Finebaum invites me on his show. I drop everything I'm doing and make sure that I'm available for you Paul. Appreciate you give me the opportunity to get on here and talk new football. Because I've been keeping up. You've dropped some some one liners that the the the media love so you may have to do your own show simultaneously to coaching. You've been quite the hit out there. Well I don't really know what you're talking about. My goal for this conversation is not to have to apologize anybody afterwards. You know last time you had me on here, I think. Mr Herbstreet and so you know again, that's the goal is to this to not try to have to apologize anybody, but I'm sure you're going to set me up and I'm sure no, no, no, yeah. Check that I can't cash so here. We we we. We've expunged that tape from our file so it. It didn't happen. Yeah Yeah there you go. Well more serious note. There is a lot going on outside of the bubble of college football that you are you working? What's it been like having your players back? And how's it going? You know it's been really good. I think this you know. The football oversight committee gave us this. Time to reintroduce where now at twenty hours getting an hour, walk through and. Were able to expand our meeting time and it's been really good for our guys I. Think just getting back into the camaraderie. Obviously, we're still doing everything with mask on and getting used to practice. We got the gators that we pull up in front of ours. You know in front of ourselves when we're going through a through, but it's been fun to just try. You know just to try to figure it all out together and in a in in just have that camaraderie again. You Know I. Think Football is such a great game because it teaches you to encourage each other encourage your teammates teaches you to sacrifice for greater good at teaches you to a the standard. Managed just been. It's been good to do all those things again. I I know it must be great to be on the on the on the field. I'm curious about something goes on a program like this the debate about the season when it starts. How it looks is all fine, but that's not what you have to deal with, but the one thing that we haven't really been able to hear from that I think you could answer is how do the players feel about where we are right now? And where we're going you? You deal with them every single day you can you? Can you enlighten? You? It's I'll tell you. This uncertainty is hard for adults it. It's really hard. Three young men eighteen to twenty two years old. You know they're used to such such structure in central teen, and at least working towards a goal you go to college, you're working towards either year football career, working towards the or you're working towards getting their degree, so they can get a job and you know this thing is just on everything up in the air, and so I think any sense of normalcy. Our guys really have gravitated towards. You know the normalcy of a weightlifting. Weightlifting routine, the normalcy of having walked through the normalcy of having meeting times and I think the thing that I noticed. Is You know we're asking them to comply with a lot of different rules? in protocols is the term in guys embraced. You know they come in. They check their temperature. That goes through the symptoms. They wear their masks. They're making sure they're not sixty within each other, and they're holding each other accountable, because they just want an opportunity to to get back to whatever this new normal is going to be, and so I think there is. Trepidation trepidation with. That I can't pronounce it. Yeah, there's some of that absolutely you know it because nobody really knows what's going to go on I. Mean you've had all these different things? You're not sure on the news which what is real. What is not so yeah? There is some of that, but we've done a good job you. We had in you healthcare. We have great epidemiologist. Dr Wit spoke to our team. Doctor Henderson. The student health you know we've had mental health Doug Middleton's come and talk to our team about. Health and so we've really tried to approach it from a lot of different angles to give our guys as many answers as we can. Coach I I know there's a lot you can control, and I'm not speaking, of Missouri, but in college football ecosystem it seems like the programs that have gotten in trouble early on, or those were players came back, and they did what everyone does as a college student including you? They go out. Is that. Is that a part of the conversation that you have to have to? I know they're aware. But but what is your role in trying to make sure that they understand the responsibility of that? You know our role is education educating on what what what your actions and this is. What team is all about? Your actions affect everybody else in the locker room. If you go down to lake of the OZARKS and you go place called the shady gator. There's a good chance you're going to have issue back when you come back with our football team, because you're spreading it to a lot of different people, and so it's just making sure that we thought our guys about what your actions do impact, everybody else, and and that's really team right? You get eleven people on the field on defense, if one person screws up. Up and it could really impact the scoreboard and the wrong way same thing on offense you can have ten people do the right thing. One person the wrong thing it can screw up the football play, and so we really just taken that same analogy and apply to our players about being smart. You know I'm not saying these guys can't go out. I'm just saying if you do make sure you have hand sanitizer in a mass. Make sure you don't simulating crowds with fifty or more. Make sure you're being smart about your surroundings, and it's really just been about educating them, and that's you know that's been the hardest thing. I know that. Outside of what you do every day with with your your staff and your team. You have to be curious about what is going on around. You know you have a really strong athletic director and staff around there. Isn't it all a challenge or you just have to block it out all the noise about the season when it starts exactly which teams are playing, which there's there's the conversations that go on on talk show, but don't really penetrate where you are, but ultimately it does affect you. Yeah. You have to ignore the noise from a player's standpoint because every single day there's a new rumor that's put out there. There's a new rabbit to chase in if I, if I start chasing all those different rabbits, I mean you get yourself in a tizzy now from a Head coaching perspective I gotTa. Keep my ear to the ground so that we can plan on. What's the best possible avenue for our team, but I. I tell these guys don't get caught up. You know right now. The Our SEC commissioner at our athletic directors pointed US toward September fifth, and so that's every step that we're taking is to prepare for September fifth and when he when commissioner psyche makes an adjustment. That's the only one I'll listen to I'm not gonNA. Listen to I'M NOT GONNA call him Toronto Bro. I got in trouble last. I must say they're. Not GonNA listen to the sports writers who tilt it one way I'm not gonNA. Listen to the to the guys who who say ignore it. That's that's their own twitter wars. I don't wait where about that I'm waiting on commissioner, saying he and Jim Start to tell me the directions that we're going to go in. Unless those two guys are saying it ain't listening. good advice and and and I really don't WanNa. Take you back down that road, but you you you very outspoken, though recently about all about all the noise and and there just seems like there is a tug of war going on and. I I. Don't WanNa, be naive and act like I don't see. It I mean I'm swimming in it every day but it. As a as a young coach I'm curious what you make out of it all. The Eh you gotta be careful. Wearing a social aid where people's popularity's based on lights and hot takes right in so in order to they either play to a crowd, or they try to cause a reaction, and that's really where their their voices heard, and that's how they're generating content, and and people want to know you know we advertise on their website. They've got this many viewers. Do they appeal to this crowd to that crowd? And that's really how politics has become. You Got Certain News. sites that are more or less than certain new sites that are more right and you know down. The middle of accurate reporting may not be as popular now all right? It doesn't quite. Quite get the The juices going controversy does right and I think what happens on twitter is people are putting out really content to try to draw in a reaction and I think it's it's kind of dangerous situation right now because I'm not saying the rooting against each other, but they're definitely I mean somebody will have a take, and they're just. They attack each other on both sides instead of saying. Hey, this is the information like. Let's just figure out what happened with the Florida. Marlins, let's not point out there and say this person was wrong and I was raised with can't do this and this should be a big warning sign for this, and this should be a big warning. Why wouldn't we just gather the information and figure out? Okay, this is the information and Lynn. Let's proceed and learn from 'cause. This is a new virus. We're only six months into it. Let's gather all the information possible. Let's make educated decision. Make sure everybody knows that. Hey, not everybody's got the crystal ball and is going to be right. Let's learn from the information to try to make. The most scientific best decision we can and also, what's the goal? The goal is for us to play football and protect our players, and if we can find a way to do that, man isn't that what everybody wants? Do you feel coach as we get as we move towards September fifth. Clearly, you have a protocol at Mizzou. Do you feel like it's a level playing field out there? In terms of what other schools are doing or do you? There's really no way to know other than things that you hear. Yeah, you know I think. I think a big step was the NCAA releasing their guidelines for what they wanted us to do. So that we know everybody is involved in that and then we'll go from there. I think again. Everything is new viruses new. We're learning new protocols everyday. We've seen that the bubble style with the NBA works unless you should let somebody leave and go to a strip club, and obviously you got to do something a little bit differently layer, but we're learning that the the the MLB model all right. There might be an issue there, so let's figure out what that issue is. Obviously I'm a football coach asked me third downs I'm. I'm ready to rock and roll asked me about epidemiology that ain't my wheelhouse I didn't stay in a Holiday Inn last night I stayed my own house all right, so let's let the doctors figure that out and you know they give me a protocol and they say this is healthy. Then I'm GonNa try it and I'm going to apply to our team and again. Dr Whiz has been absolutely phenomenal for us here at Mizzou and we follow his protocols is advice suggestions, and so far you know our guys has done a really nice job of that and work health that ready to go praise the Lord for that and keep on rocking and rolling. Coach. It's always fun when you come on. Even even during heady times We appreciate it all the best in back in. You know I'm coming back and next time. Hopefully I'm GonNa come in studio and I'm GonNa have a big. Piece of Chicken Salad Chick ready for you all right, yeah! You, still, I have not. This is not been the best time to go sightseeing for new places, but I I trust you. Lived around here longer than I have, but I will do that and. And I would say dropped by if you're ever in town, but I don't I. Don't think based on your schedule. You're going to be too close anytime soon. Well, we come down play. South Carolina may be able to swing up there. There's another place called cal fish, which is a really good Sushi. I have been to cal. It's tremendous, isn't it? It is great. I I would like to go tonight and sitting there and watch baseball, but I'll stay home coach. You'd be well. Take care of yourself. Thank you coach you turn quick has become one of the most entertaining college football coaches around his first. At the University of Missouri Corona Bros thrown around sec coaches very often. We'll be right back. You're listening to the Paul Finebaum show podcast. Did you know GEICO's now offering an extra fifteen percent credit on car and motorcycle policies. That's fifteen percent on top of what Geico could already save you. So, what are you waiting for your dentist to actually believe you and your day? Absolutely great and you're cutting down in your suite, so of course wonderful then I. don't even need to look in their great in six months. There's never been a better time to switch to geico save an extra fifteen percent when you switch by October seventh limitations apply visit GEICO DOT COM for details. We welcome you back as we continue here and I'm an is up next I'm and go right ahead. Good afternoon politics take call thank you. You, know I've been listening to you program of Real long-term. Yes, and I'm I'm kind of confused now we've got to prophets calling this show. We've got ricky and Mobile Jim. Test scores. And God topics directly to these people. Now, we know Jim! We don't know rick the Ricky. I will say this. Don't lose that number. You don't WanNA call nobody else. We Won't you Colin Paul Finebaum. And I hear a lot between Ricky and Jim hear a lot about revelations and the time. Is Everywhere simple. Nepal back to a little say that I had. In I'M GONNA, say it simply because I. Need this type together with the rest of my call. I would come on and say live from the capital city, the cradle of confederacy, the birthplace, civil rights, movement, Ladies and gentlemen. That's Gumri Alabama. I'm in Montgomery Alabama right this minute and I'll tell you don't see the damn. Chaos and everybody else is talking about worldwide. And there's a lot going on right now. But when I quit listening to the radio in the news that is in quit watching it and I'm driving down the streets of Montgomery Alabama now remember that latest General Montgomery Alabama. I do not see people beating each other i. don't see all this this chaos that Jim, and and Rick you're talking about in revelations, actually see a progressive city with people of all natures, colors, sexes everything. Totally getting along now there's a small bad people, just bad people, and that's all there is to it but I tell you what I see a lot of different people every day and I talked to them and I don't see anybody as desperate is Jim Ricky WanNa. Make US believe I. don't see anybody as desperate as talking heads on all these news programs and I don't see anybody is desperate as some of the things I've heard on ESPN. But this is what I do. Believe I don't think we're in revelations I think we're in Genesis and I'm on day eight, and this is what's in front of me and you know what I'm going to learn to deal with. It I'm going to learn to cope with it and I'm going to learn to live with it and that's all I got. Say about that. Ricky and Jim Y'all just keep on, put on Komo. Choir Robes, and put on your wigs or what you do, y'all just keep on communicating. For legal. Dean is up next in Tampa Dane. You're on the air. Go right ahead. Thank, you for taking my call, longtime listener first-time caller. Thank you I WANNA take exception to David Israel said earlier about Adolph rupp. By graduated from the University of Kentucky in Nineteen Seventy, so I was there to see him for. Quite a few games. Not much known but eight off tried to recruit. Three young men who are Americans at the end of his career and they couldn't pass. The academic standards said by the the as he. Then? He tried to recruit and did recruit the second basketball player Black Basketball player in the SEC in the name of Tom. Paine sure do again Tom Tom. left after playing one year. freshman couldn't play then but. Not, many people know it, but eight off. Really help Tom a great deal with all the problems we had in lies, and recently Tom's come to the fore, and said I wanNA come back to the University of Kentucky and talk to the Basketball Team I WANNA. Talk to the football team and help guide men, young men in their lives and their decision. And he's very complimentary of coach rough so before Mr. Makes a blanket statement? About. Trump being the scourge of the university I wish he would do a little more research you know. Let me jumping off a lot of time, but I agree with you. I I got into that years ago many years ago, and I think one of the coach. RUPP's children called me. And I did what any normal person would do. I dug into it and I found out. The story is not correct that he was like that and I've found the same thing that you had and you're right about pain he was. A troubled young man who? who had his life straightened out? But thank you for saying that I hope disrupt the story will go away not that I'm afraid of conflict, but I just don't think it's an accurate portrayal. I had many conversations with C M Newton who played for coach. Rob as well. We're up against a break. It's been a busy show. We still have an hour to go. Heather dinner will join US shortly about her conversation with mark. Hello, this is your apartment. I need some favors from you. Your cat keeps rubbing against the kitchen island and I can't return the favor. Can you give her extra pets for me after that? Could you bundle your renters and car insurance with GEICO? We could save money and it's easy to do online and one last thing. Could you leave the TV on during the day I need to catch up on my soaps. Gut, go for bundling easy. 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Hour 1: Dennis Dodd & Calls

"Today answers matter more than ever before. That's why IBM is helping. Businesses manage customer questions with Watson Assistant It's conversational. Ai Designed to work for any industry. Let's put smart to work visit. IBM Dot Com Slash Watson Assistant. Pride Passion Than Pattern Tree of college. Football leaves here. Paul Finebaum show our one I cast. We welcome you to another day. We have made it back to the middle of the week and a lot going both. In the world of college football and right now in the Senate, where the head of the insight AA is about to get grilled by US, senators, they're also making comments about the return to play and date you on all of that in just a second, but as that is going on in Washington, while people all over college athletics are trying to figure out. What's the best course of action is those who plan to play. Looking for opponents as so many conferences now. Have bailed out of the. Fall season. Or certainty rains as every every every conference that is planning on playing has been affected the latest being the Swag the PAC twelve of course No Conference Games big ten mack is affected the SEC. Eighties scrambling as everyone else is trying to figure out what is up next meanwhile. The questions remain What is going to determine the return to play? Most people believe in addition to the public health issues around the country. It is going to be testing, and that's something that everybody is talking about Can they figure out a way to properly test student athletes while the country is waiting up to seven or eight days, individuals like you and me to get tested, so that's a really big deal to keep. Keep your eye on. We have so many other stories that we're watching the bowl. Situation is up in the Air Bowl. Officials maintain. They are going to play, so that really is where we are as we. We get going here on this Wednesday afternoon. One thing that I think is really interesting to point out and we're GonNa get this is is. What happens if there isn't a bowl season all these bones? Live and die and so many. Once you get into the college football season coaches who aren't going to play for anything. Start talking about well. We are bowl eligible so that's another big thing to talk about me while they're always stories out there is this the moment? Is this the time that the power of five? Break away from everyone else, and that is something that we will be talking a little bit later on with with one of our guests, who is a former president? In the in the big twelve. Twelve, so a lot on the on the line today your phone calls of course as always and a very important guest list as well so buckle up. We have a lot to talk about here today and we will do that for you over these next four hours. as well as your phone calls at eight, five, five, two, four to seven q eight five. Colin Hill was honored. Yesterday in Columbus Mississippi. The man who, in my opinion, really brought the flag down. He was Treated to a hero's welcome. To his home town, which is and all that far from where he plays college football so good for him, he deserves everything he can't. And I mentioned the I mentioned the US Senate ago and we're. We're going to ask Dennis dot about that one of our I. Guess, we'll also talked to the commissioner of the Sun. Belt Ross Bjork ahead of the Athletic Department at Texas am and the aforementioned John We ball I mentioned What's going on in the Senate right now and Senator Richard Blumenthal on the Senate judiciary. Committee, he is a Democrat from Connecticut. He said. In his opening statement I think he's He's the minority He, he's a senior minority member of the senator. Lindsey Graham, the IS A. Majority chairman there. he said this pandemic has highlighted the need to enact health. And Safety. Protections schools are rushing to bring athletes back to campus. We are watching a slow motion. Catastrophe now. I bring that up and you can quibble over his politics. But he still was an influential senator. And you and I may not care. What some Democratic Senator Connecticut asked to say. The athletic directors and the country may not care. But. Don't be surprised if presidents of colleges are listening to what people at the United States Senate. Today and that's I. Really Strong Strong Statement. Let's get to your phone calls at eight, five, five, two, four, two, seven, two, eight, five, eight, five, five, two, four, two, seven, two, eight, five. We always a check in occasionally. Our friend Dr Will in New York Dr. how are you? Pay. Becker. So he buckles getting. Some new data and perhaps a new mindset yesterday, president from said that The looks like the worst of the virus is ahead of this or more difficult days. Combine oil. His his exact quote was Regrettably it's going to. It's going to get worse before it gets better. I'm sorry. He said. It's going to get worse before it gets better. Yeah, now here's the thing and I appreciate it. I kind of would concur with those sentiment. The the problem is. Is that He. So much on saying. Hold, on, hold on to say. What difference does it make what he has previously said? Let's talk about what's happening right now I mean. Let's that lets. The cable shows to go up and down over the last four months. Mean everybody. Hey, second. Everybody in this country has made mistakes when it comes to this fires I. Have you have the President? Has the Senate has the governors have? What can we do starting right this moment to eradicate this? Nuisance and and give back to some normalcy. That's I'm asking. Well are finished it. Yeah, because I I've heard I've heard you and your your You know talk about how the president blue back in February I. want to know what's going on right now. But what he in through say. Say. People take those things as the current state. Of Affairs. And the the thing is is that I would say. Do not realize that all that came to an epiphany, because people had a conferring I, had a contrary view even at the Thomson. Those things were said, so you said that send him was a mistake. People thought differently at the time. so I would say if that's the case and we're all in. that. We have two days ahead. The real question to operative question be at that point given the fact that we faced difficult times ahead and looking at the entire body of work with respect to this virus. To individual you know besides the fact that he's currently in office. Who is also Post V. Fleet, Doctor. says. That election on November third. It's not on. July twenty second. That's true. So if you don't like the President I strongly suggest Negro vote against. I really don't care who you go. Well I'm saying to you is I'm trying I'm to blame gage to end the blame game and. And try to figure out. About Accountability well. Okay well I, is it? Is it. Is it breaking news in this country that? The president was slow to come around. Everyone knows that that's represented in the polls. Okay. That's fair enough. Fair. Enough. But I will tell you this what he said yesterday could still be important, though because those people out there who don't want to listen to people like you or or anyone else and think this is serious, may maybe they heard the President United States yesterday admit it's pretty serious. Well, actually it is important it is. Even better than that than never I guess I. Guess what I'm not blaming me here. I'm just tired of I. Mean I. Put on my television this morning. I heard the same commentators say the same thing about the about the same person for the last four months I don't I don't see that as constructive That's why we have. That's why we have elections in this country and you know I plan to go vote like you do I. Don't know how I'm GonNa vote, but I'll go boat, and I'll pull the lever for the person on that day. That feel best-qualified not not on this day. Okay. Okay well thank you. Didn't mean to interrupt your talking points, but I just talked to. You know we've heard enough bashing on this program over the last couple of weeks. Let's take a break rolling such a good mood. Eight. Five, five, two, four, two, seven, two, eight five. We're coming right back to listening to the Paul Finebaum show podcast. Can we welcome you back here? On a Wednesday afternoon and TRAE is up next. Try thanks. Welcome to the show Mr Palm. How are you today? I am doing really well, thank you. Well I got the smoker go when it's a hundred and six degree index and ice chests, full gear, and I'm sitting on the deck, watching the Paul Finebaum show. Say Save me a light beer. Yes Sir Hey Paul I'm glad you shut. Dok Wheel Down Because I've come to a conclusion. I I'm just I'm disappointed in every leader in this country, no matter where their Dr, a Democrat Republican I. don't care who it is anymore. We have failed the people of this country with this fighting. That's going on and until we come together. Paul I don't think we're ever going to solve. Just, sad and TRAE OT. I started thinking during the break But? I heard where he was going to spend five minutes. Trashing the president, which by the way it doesn't matter to me what you think, the president of the United States. Citizens Walking but I. Don't think that's constructive any longer We're trying to salvage the the next couple of months of this year whether it's for school or Business or football, or whatever and the mistakes made in March. Don't make one bit of difference any longer it's what happens as of this moment. And I guess I. Just I just can't hear I apologize for blowing up, but I knew were they. Heard. Same thing five times. You. Don't apologize Paul I want to tell you something else, too. I don't know if you know this. You got your phone there. You can type in any three digit number and Google and put new cases, and whatever number you type in that many new cases today you can type in six sixty six, and they'll say that many new cases you can type in nine hundred and eighty nine. It'll say that many new cases so what's going on with that? I, mean has that. Well whatever number. Here's the problem there I don't think anyone really knows what's going on I. Don't know whether the numbers are too high whether they're too low because it's an inexact science and I do believe it's you know. People were sick out there and and they're obviously people dying, but. We won't know We won't know for Awhile. What what really is going on? I don't think. We'll Pov I'm just GONNA say I'm too blessed to be stressed. I'm GonNa Start Thinking more positive. I I want everybody to come together. We have got to correct this country It's I never thought I'd see my country in this shape and you know we've talked before and. It's it's sad for me. I, it's just well. Bless everybody is troy I won't ever said that I want everybody blessed and believe in God and Let's just black White Republicans Democrat. HATE PRESIDENT! Don't please. I'm begging everybody. Let's get this country back on the right track. Because this is a great country and we need to. We need to start making this country. Great grand whatever it takes, and it's going to take given. Take some everybody and until we do that, we're lost. 'CAUSE everybody wants to be right. Nobody wants to be wrong. Nobody wants to accept blamed. Everybody wants to blame each other, and that's not how you live. Your. Life Paul thank you. Appreciate the call trae be well and thanks for the kind words. Shannon is up next. Hey Shannon. Hey Paul how you they serve I'm doing well. Man I was I was gonNA. Call in and talk about enacted testing results, but that's the first call. I was too shy away from the topic. I was I'M A to ask our. Though I'm I'm excited about the optimism that I've been here the last couple of days and I wanted to bring up something to you. See what you think well. I see this one of the directors for the Centers for Disease Control, so that we'd all wear masks for the next four eight weeks. You could probably get this thing under control correct. That's exactly what he said. So and Paul you should be proud of me. our GM started requiring mass this week. It's hard for me to do cardio anyway, but with a mask on my face. It's even harder, but I've been doing it. But if the mask works which you know, I'm GonNa. Go with the science and say the Mass Work and the social distancing if we can't wear the mask. Isn't it feasible that fifty percent capacity and our SEC, stadiums and outdoor venues with mask on, we should still be safe to have college football and have fifty percent of fans in the stands. I can't answer that yet, but if but. But I I! We have somebody on later. Who may be able to? He's the athletic director Texas saying them. Well. The NFL's come out and said that they're going to have I think ten to twenty thousand fans in the indoor facilities Atlanta well. Yeah I think it depends on where of course some states are not going to allow fans at all, but I I think. I'm GonNa say this about that. Shannon I don't think anybody can make a decision yet on whether they're going to have fans in NFL Games until they get through the next few weeks. Well. I was thinking we could do some neat match like we could do. A A houndstooth mass for Alabama and a checkerboard orange masks for Tennessee, and then maybe for the gators. We could put a real little Florida gator on the mass, because they tend to be a little underwhelming at times That was a shot at Florida by the way I heard you. Very good, but I'm just hoping the mass thing a workout, and maybe we can just get on with life and get back some normalcy. I hope so, Hey, by the way thank you for the call. We are keeping our eyes on a lot of places today, but as I mentioned I I read. The senators comment a minute ago from Washington, but right now Marc emery at the NCAA president is testifying in front of the Senate Judiciary Committee. And he said an order this answer AA president now in order to save in order to have a fall season. He says medical experts must see quoting now significant change for that to happen. Significant change for that to happen. What does that mean? Your guess is as good as mine, but we are now sitting here on July twenty second. Decisions. are expected to be made any time from the end of this week when the entry double a council meach too sometime maybe next week when the SEC and other conferences were originally expected to make some decisions is is that enough time. For things to get significantly better, it seem it would seem to have what everybody wants. That's not going to be enough time. Let's get back to the calls. At eight five to four, two, seven, two, eight, five in Jerry is up next in Florida. Oh yes, I work with A. And Charley Moco. IT W API back in. Those are some great names there. Well. I remember your name. Ham News and post hair to. I in my experience, and I never was an athlete, but I've read some. I think we're GONNA shut everything. I don't I do not believe that we can safely have high school. Are University football. in this guy, I'm sorry. I'm a sports fan and I love it. But in my. Shutdown. Well I'm curious. Why you think that? Why do you think it needs to be? Shut Down Right now? I I'm not saying he doesn't need to be shut down at some point. I am arguing for time and I still think time is is hanging in the balance. Not. But some yes, sure well I'm here in Florida. We have new cases. Everyday people we knew are still getting the virus. we're still having. Convention tuition vacationers. I agree with you on that. But I. I think that is an issue, and I think Texas and Florida are really concerned at least for the SEC. But I also. I. I don't know what my final I! Don't have a vote by the way to the two of us were making this decision. I don't know what it would be, but I know I would want to exhaust every effort before I shut down something as important as this is. Absolutely where who else sports fans? But the safety of the players I was a college professor. Sixteen Years And the campus itself is at stake here Do you think you would be comfortable going onto a campus right now? Being in the classroom I mean. If you were still teaching I guess is my question. Okay. Well that's that's. That's an important answer. Because I heard I was watching. This real sports last night with on HBO which was essentially a hit job on college football but they they. They were their. Parents of a player key players one that went. To Stanford a former NFL, player and essentially He was saying. Why is it okay for my son to be on campus right now? Doing voluntary workouts. All. It's not okay for students to. Be On campus. Out Survey. Hey thanks for the call. We were up against a break. We're going to bring Anna's. Here in a minute, let it. Get his opinion of what's happening in Washington today. Whether it will have any impact at all again. I don't. Know that Mark Emerson has is the most powerful man. In making this decision, but he is The answer W. President we'll. Be Right back. You're listening to the Paul Finebaum show podcast. Welcome you back. We mentioned a minute ago. The comment that the Mark Hammer. said in testimony just a moment ago in front of the Judiciary Committee, in the Senate saying that for the college football season two began. there needs to be. Better news from the public health well I I don't know if he's going to that Amelia. We just learn from Clemson University of the president. They're announcing that the safety. The safety of the students being paramount's who, as a result at Clemson, which of course is in South Carolina's as all of you know. The start of all of this semester will start online at least for now delay in person classes by four weeks due to the progression of covid nineteen in South Carolina the upstate. Region has become a hotspot meanwhile in in Washington. Ra- Mogi. Huma of the the Executive Director of the NC. said this in front of Congress with Marc emery. Their the NCW sports is a racially discriminatory predatory industry. It has been a rough day in the first thirty minutes on the, Hill, Dana's dodd from CBS sports joining Dennis. Good afternoon! It's just unbelievable. Trying to keep up with everything today. How are you? For businesses around the world, today isn't a restart. It's a rethink that's why they're partnering with IBM to Change. How they were from supply chains to customize service. Let's put smart to work. visit. IBM DOT COM slash smart to learn more. Following this. Dennis let's start with with Amran. I think we all know that his power is somewhat limited, but his voice is pretty loud. What do you make out of what he said so for? Well as far as the hearings on the hill, more of the same from him, just trying to defend the system. And really groveling before before these committees. Trying to get some type of antitrust. exemption that would narrow players ability to earn what Sarah Worth while they're college athletes. And I I don't know if it's GonNa, work or not I I've gone back and forth. They're going to get some kind of convention than thought no congressman be way, too. In the year with black lives matter with covert with the presidential election Phil address something not as trivial, but but not as. As, this, but it just to me. It shows the desperation of the NCAA to put some sort of guardrails. On on N I l claiming. You know they'll the I love this one. The plainfield won't be level. As anybody realized that Alabama still going to get the best players in Toledo's not. GonNa Change. Are there, do you WanNa talk about guardrails? The best guardrails in recruiting I think in this Senate I l thing is you can only take twenty five at a time. You know you can't take one hundred best players. You can only take twenty five so. I think it's a a plus rating. Futile athlete by the NCAA but I don't know. and I did not get. It also seems was with comments like like what remote Gi said that is going to make it more difficult because I mean you talk about taking. Taking a swing at the NC double A. Like a Pin Yata that's a pretty serious thing to say. especially considering the climate in the country. A. Remote, he has said the full. Cory Booker the Congressman WHO's on that committee as well said much the same thing in a more area diet fashion. I guess. when he referenced graduation rates that are publicized the I think eighty percent. Of the NCAA crawling about increasing graduation rates, but they're only fifty five percent of among black. Males. In the NCAA so he's making much more much the same case without the without the language I guess we're chatting with Dennis the dentist. Let's get to the football part of the equation and the NFL thing will still be there. Whether College football is not is up in the air, so take us through. This is an important I mean every every day is important right now, but What do you see this week? As we lead into next week when it appears, some of the bigger decisions may maybe made by We're not sure, but at least we're getting close. GEICO gets you access to licensed agents twenty four seven, which means that Geico is always there for you. If only everyone was always there for you, like your mom when you fill out really really important paperwork on the first day of a new job name, check birthday. Securities thing. Hey, among what is my social security number mom mom. Okay. Let's zero zero, one seven German. Hashtag Geigo always there for you with savings and twenty four seven access to licensed agents. It you know Friday the Board of governors invading. and to me, the season effectively be over by the end of Friday, the only issue on their agenda. Is that day is to vote on whether to cancel fall championships, not not the season, but fall championship that affect effectively, but boxing f the the playing the season. If no other way would be tremendous, tremendously bad optics if they do that and there is no. Vision two division three playoffs, there was no championships for soccer, volleyball and twenty other sports in the fall and yet ftse going to play football I think this thing is coming to ahead quickly. Anybody things and there is A. There is a campaign now from the stakeholders. In from the highest reaches of college football, trying to convince the Board of governors who runs the NCAA not to do this not to take on. They are begging for time to see how this thing plays out. I think they. Might. Be a tipping point in the whole Enterprise Dennis. Like I didn't understand what you said I do. But I think it may have caught some of the audience a little by surprise so let let me stop a second because you just said something extremely important, so the Board of governors are meeting and. If, you could explain there. Could everyone thinks the NC double? A. IS POWERLESS and it's up to. Explain exactly W- what power they have. And what that decision! And why that decision is could be so critical. Yeah, it's it's hard. This one is hard because they. They don't have any They oversee college football at the college football. Only for playing practice rules enforcement recruiting that type of stuff. Obviously we know the. The ESPN and the College Football playoff control. The postseason bowls another entity. other than that the NC doesn't have much much. Sway over. This. More. Oh I guess tricky to to to explain because. If they make the move and again I stress this. This'll be optics if they make the move the college to cancel all championships again, not the season's. That'll be up to the schools. Individually the play those seasons, but the championships because of code. Dan What is going to be the look of the s pursuing. a season to play college football where I think from the beginning. The biggest part of this to return to play with the students to athletes. Can't be perceived as mercenaries or human shields, because we know that football money funds everything, and so that just brings a step closer. I think they'll be pressure. From outside college athletics for them not to play if that's the case. but it won't be any. It won't be any mandate from the NCAA. They're kind of coming in the back for here, saying okay. You think we don't have any power. Watch this one see if you can get through this because of the optics, you guys playing while everybody else is so so genesee if they if they vote Where does that leave the autonomy five commissioners? Well they're lobbying hard right now. Floor them not to vote on this not to consider this. The when I heard today that it's the only. Subject on the agenda of the Board of Governors. that did not sound good I mean they're basically going to get in there. And debate whether the vote on this on or not, and you have to member. They acted rather quickly. In in people criticize them at the time on March twelfth. They can't beat the tournament. To cancel all the rest of the Spring Sports Update no college world series. Nothing else of the sword. They've had all these months. You know to flip this. Settle in to see what all this means. And now they're gonNA. Come to a point in late July. Were they're gonNA, cancel the championships and they'll get criticism for that did is who are these? Who are these people on the board of? Our Paul, they are They are president. They are chancellor's. The Chairman of the Board of Governors is. This is a guy who run they. They are every division. They oversee every division. The Board of Directors Oversees Division One. Phil D- built these. No. Chancellor or President of Colorado's share. I'm sorry. No, he's the chair of the board director. Michael Drake outgoing egland in Ohio. State is the chair and he's a very high profile figure. Because, it's the same par. He's chairing this organisation. He's transitioning to become I think the title is President of the University of California system. you might have seen him. Bob Goodlatte of seeing him on CBS this morning. CBS Face A leader important people. Very, important people that the former CEO now retired American Express Ken. Chenault is one of the independent members he will be voting. You know a A former head of the biggest companies in the country will be voting on the judge. and. Let's. Let's Let me flip this around to we. We have the five commissioners. And Your opinion that. All five or lobbying for them not to make this determination. For businesses around the world, today isn't a restart. It's a rethink that's why they're partnering with IBM to Change How. They burn from supply chains to customer service. Let's put smart to work visit IBKR DOT com slash smart to learn more. Policy In general is lobbying against this there was. I beat the. tweeted I. a letter from Shane Lyons, the AD at West Virginia whose chair the football over section Eddie urging. Posing, the governor is not to do this. Give us some more time. I've gotten a copy of that it's. Very you know it's. It's right out there, you know, please don't do this. We know what's best for college football football. It stresses the weak the weak nature of the virus in a few weeks. It could go down and then we're all done so. I think that letter probably sums up the feeling of the policy by the these out there writing it himself. And let me let me flip it around I. Know I've kept you well. the people that you talked to within the power five I mean I know what they're all saying and there's not much. They really can say from Greg Sankey. To? Be I mean. You talked to these people whether on or off the record. What are you hearing right now? About it season. Yeah of where they are right now in in in making a determination, I mean they've. They've pushed this pretty far back. It sounds like they want to keep pushing it. Yeah I I. I think they want to keep pushing it obviously, the PAC twelve and big ten their decisions. I think they WANNA. Play on one hand that could be just a placeholder in the public mind in the public mind for the next step which decant postponing a- canceling the season. You know they're gonNA say. We gave it every shop. The you know we'd pushed the started the season back the short season. I think think the SEC and big twelve at least are committed to playing a full seat. But now the Big Ten and PAC twelve done I. think it's. If they do play think it's trending towards this truncated season where you play. Your Complex Games plus one in other words. You'd be able to get you know if you're doing it. Might as well add a non lucrative non compass game on the schedule. You know that otherwise would be locked. In the case of Georgia Georgia Tech in the case of of Florida Florida's state big one this year, Lsu Texas Tennessee Oklahoma. Those would be added onto. The schedule is called the plus one. Plus, one formula. and in fact all and my reporting all five conferences at least discuss that. The big ten wasn't done when they said Conference Games. Only they are actually looking at adding another game. Well. I know you're tired of the percentage questions, but you have certainly been one of the most honest and realistic that we talked to with everything converging including the news about clemson pushing things back a couple of weeks at a critical moment Are You, are you? Are you less confident of the season right now? Starting on time or having one, where are you? I just said this is this was prior. To the slide a meeting knowing about that. I I was I was very wide open. I just said that I. Think is going to be some college. Football. Games is Saul. Just. Don't ask me when they start. or at this season will be completed, or if there's a playoff college or a conference championship games, that's as far as I can go 'cause I. Don't have any leading on it. He on that I think some team. Some conferences would play football I. Think it's better to ask this question. now after. Friday given what I just said about the about the board of governors because. I. Maybe not on Friday, but I think eventually the pressure from at least the outside, the be too much for college. Football Major College football to press on after that. Great Stuff Dennis. Thanks for the time as always some great reporting. There, we'll talk to you. Yeah, I mean you heard it i? Mean it's not as simple as we think And this countless board of governors which made. Again they. You don't rule the College Football playoff, but they can make things rather rather sticklers sticky. Let's take a break martyrdom more of your phone calls after the. Listening to Paul Finebaum show podcast, you ought to be back great to have you with us here on a Wednesday afternoon. Where a lot is happening David is up next David welcome and good effort. But Paul how you doing today I am doing really well, thank you. Sir Hey, I'll just. A couple of things I wanted to mention if. The caller earlier talking about you know maybe. Twenty thousand thirty thousand and slams. You. Get a place like Tuscaloosa that saints over a hundred thousand. How're you doing change? Which fans get into game and who don't? that is a question. I've yet to hear anyone answer We have athletic on a little while I, BET But they don't have an answer for the. Right and then. When all this I started in Alabama. When governor of the issue I stay at home order. She told us. College football in the fall. You have to do what we're asking you to do. I went in with my favorite Sunday night at my favorite Mexican restaurant. And then I went met with a couple of my buddies Monday night. The girl that waited on last Monday night. Tested positive for Cova Tuesday. Other in law is the manager of the place. She showing symptoms, and they've got five other employees that are showing symptoms, but they will not go and be tested because they don't want to miss work. David. That's sad and I I. I don't want to. Come down on them because I understand how important jobs are and I'm afraid that happens a lot in this country right now that people just assume you'll get by and. I, would do. I mean that's. A BIG DILEMMA ON. You WanNa. Come down and say we'll do the right thing, but on the other hand. You're not doing the right thing because you're. You're putting a lot of people in jeopardy, but you're also. Trying to preserve your your family. Right well. Point be and. Everybody's blaming president trump for this. We need to put the blame where the blame lies. If we don't do what they've asked us today. How we never gonNA get any better. Yeah, I mean they told. Everybody started saying the same thing in mid March it just. Doesn't matter. Who the president is of this country or the cleaner England people? could choose to do whatever they felt was important. It was really I think the I think the real issues. Was Not so much Dan was when we all one minute got tired of. Sitting around our house and decided to go back out again. Let me update. A couple of things mentioned the Clemson story and I don't want to harp on that, but the fact that Clemson. I realize it's an ACC school, but it's a southern school. decided to postpone on campus learning for at least four weeks I think it's shows the seriousness of the situation in Clemson which also has South Carolina you that you add that to Texas. Florida those are those are hot spot areas. Alabama Georgia where things are going that great, either it puts more public health pressure on administrators and remember Greg thank you. We go right here, saying we're leaning on data from public health. So there you go, we'll talk more about it with athletic director Texas. Ain't I'm a little bit later on. We are back after this.

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"Pride Passion Than Patron Tree of college football leaves here. The Paul Finebaum show our one podcast. We welcome you back another day, and it's only Tuesday but a lot to do right. Glad you're with us. A couple of the regulars we will check in with in a minute. Including Heather Dinner. Chew probably has as Good A. As good I on the upcoming college football season as as anybody I. Know and we look forward to visiting with her here. Just a few minutes, also Dennis Dodd who's been covering college football. For many many years always great to visit with him. You know I was thinking the other day. Every time you every night you flip on the TV and. There's no sports. I was thinking man man I wonder if television I wonder if sports on television and we have baseball coming basketball coming all kinds of things hopefully coming soon I wonder if that would maybe get us in a better mood and then I I was flipping around getting ready for the show today. And I found this article by Shannon Ryan who we hope to joined with in a little while on the program. She is with the Chicago Tribune. Covers College athletics. And I just about fell out of my hair under the heading. Let's face it. Our break from sports needs to last longer. And I'm going I. Is this the craziest thing I've ever read, or does it make any sense, so I started reading I won't read you the whole thing i. Will leave that to to others. But I I do WanNa read a couple of lines because she started the article off. In the Chicago paper, saying look, it's just not working out. It's clear now that we need to get back together. We tried to get back together too soon although it would be easy to continue in denial after all levels blind, the timing just isn't right sports I. Say this with love. We need another break, not a break-up. Just to break, the evidence is obvious in abundant, and it needs to be confronted especially. When it comes to college, athletics were safety plans appear. Especially precarious. I won't continue because most of it. You do know she goes through A. Laundry list of things that have happened colleges who have ported positive tests thirty seven clemson players lsu players. various players announcing. In questioning UCLA announcing, it's canceling most in person classes. And, but she does right this interesting article and I. Want You to think about this for a second. How can a school say it's campus? is too risky for the overall student population. But encourage. Athletes to return. TO GENERATE FINANCES Think about that line for just a second. How can a school? Say It's. Campus. is too risky. For the overall student population. But encourage athletes to return to generate finances. So I. Ask all of you is that is we all want college football I mean I don't nobody here needs to say men. Nobody wants it more than me. Everybody wants it. That's a given. But does she have a point? If. It's not okay to send your son or daughter. To Florida or Alabama badly, we don't know this yet. I mean some of these schools may very well open. But if it's not safe to send your son or daughter to southern cal. Why is it safe? For athletes to show up right now. For voluntary starting next week for more than voluntary. Why is it safe? I think there's a fair question. I mean I'm not. I. WanNa see I WANNA see College football game tonight. I want to see a baseball game or a basketball I don't really care anymore. I'm tired of watching reruns. But. Ultimately I think we have to figure this question out, and that's where we will go a little bit today. would love to have you join us as well and you know the number by now you just shows on a few years eight, five, five, two, four, two, seven, two, eight five. Eight five, two, four, two, seven, two, eight five. A lot of questions out there mentioned we'll talk to a Shannon a little bit later on Moog over more, the problem is is she shows up. And Other callers as well. I mentioned Dennis mentioned Heather Dennis. We'll start with some phone calls PAT. His first up hey pat. Hey Paul. I agree with what you were just talking about him. that question and I I would hope that that you would agree with me that. I've had that physician for a good while That's a very serious question to ask But that's not why I called. Your gassed. Week and make them less and less sanguine. About. Starting on time and There I think they've decided that maybe. A common date would be July twenty four, and then you look at what's where where the spikes are. And where I'm going with this and and the was getting in trouble with testing. Not, only doing the tests, but getting the results back. I could see where half the team sec can't quite and. he's got Florida South Carolina, Georgia all Alabama Texas am. Just to name a few. So how Manny, Oh and then we. Got Vanderbilt, who probably has more common sense than anybody else sec, so I could see them off you now. How many teams those initiatives safety have to have? In order to play college football. You know whether it's Labor Day weekend or September the nineteen. Well I think you'd have to have a a majority of the teams playing I. Don't I don't think you could I mean I mean there's? I think you can live with with less than fourteen. And a lot of conversation about one school in particular. But I I. Don't know the answer that and and I. Keep hearing you know I. You've heard me say this couple ties. Pat, keep your eye on media days. was supposed to start Monday tentatively. It was being pushed back two weeks. when when you hear in until you hear media days set. No one thing, the season's not set. Well I I certainly agree with with that and. Who is the one team in particular is that Vanderbilt is? That would be my guess. vanderbilt. A little bit differently than everyone else they are. they have a decentralized. There where the athletic department is has been really incorporated into the into the university Even more news on that came out today. they're putting the communication people no longer separate I mean these are minor things that we don't normally talk about. But that. Is Vanderbilt always been a little bit different I? Think I mean I. Don't mean that disparaging where I'm just telling the truth. Well I'm paying them a compliment about their common sense. That that wasn't the Ivy. League supposed to do something today that I believe I. Believe it's tomorrow. But. Was it tomorrow okay? All right well, I'm grasping at straws trying to figure out how many SEC teams. It takes to make a conference. You know if I. I I'm not I. Think there's a season I think everyone will play. Unless unless it's just a jigsaw puzzle where? You know we're? We're the problem areas today. Texas and Florida. But I, I have a hard time believing that Florida at the University of Florida or Texas wouldn't have football. Everyone else could. Well. I. I think there's there's more. Serious areas than that. I think Alabama Georgia. South Carolina Pat. Here's the thing we don't I mean. I say this and I know you'll agree with me. It's not today that matters. It's it's joy thirty. I it matters, or whatever whatever the drop dead date is for the season and I'll Aska every guests. We have tonight on that and I think they'll be some interesting I think I think all say end month. If You follow the news there I. Don't believe three weeks from today. The situation is going to be better than than it. Is this at this moment? I think it's going to be significantly worse. I agree with you and and I'll use the nuclear aircraft carrier. Takes a lot of to get that. That sucker turned around so We are going to be any better on July twenty four seven. We all right now. We could be worse, but we're not going to be better, and and and I hear people say this I. I've heard several people. Tell me even in this week. You know keeping right now. The death on the death total is really low. Agree Even the president tweeted that out today. Not that. He has the last word on everything on his twitter feed although it seems like he does. that. That death toll stay low then. I think it gives you a better chance of of dealing with reality, but I I don't. I don't think that death toll staying out as low as it is. Hey, thanks for the call. Break mortar calm. You're listening to the Paul Finebaum show podcast. Hey, welcome back. Let's continue right now. Is Chris is up next from? New Orleans so Hello Chris. How you doing Paul for all. I just wanted to get this question as I can get some of these advocates and other people to. If he wouldn't say ace into Medicare. IS UNTIL CORONA VIRUS? Do, they they always walk around. Send Disease, time, point, and every type deal to a always just walking around, said it, I mean. Do we know that yet, or is it just and they're going with it, you know. Carry it's a good question. I I I hate to answer I. Think when you're not completely. You. Don't have symptoms, but you still have it. You May I need to get some clarification on the weather Elements Anyway. Yeah. I'm trying. Let me. Let me pause on that for a second I. Hate to give you an answer because I. Really don't know the answer. Putting on team metal looks that you have on the show. Wondering if I wanted to comment on. Or you saw Don Lemon last night talking to total terry crews. Is You saw that and I did not and. I'm. Not, GONNA go into detail, but very end of it. You Know Don limit to say it's every clues that go back on matter. Bloomington didn't matter to can be murdered in the street. It only had to deal with boost productivity and I I literally I just WanNa see that. We're in Santana. Thank I'm minutes. Oh, now that made any sense and we got a national correspondent on TV talking like that you know, don't make no, Terry. Black lives matter doesn't have nothing to do with the kid being murdered in the community. They only have to deal with the police brutality. Such nonsense statement to meet, and maybe you can look at. Some more inflammation on I'll be listening to this show. Thank you very much. Appreciate your time. Mason is up next in Virginia HM Nice. Understand that Cova nineteen and all of college. But I don't think about realize like this person artful. Lot of people are not gonNA pay that tuition. Full tuition on you know for the kids go to schools. They won't take it from home. And how much you're! GonNa hurt the schools. They realized I think we have to get to the point where. We have to move forward somehow someway. Okay, everybody's wearing a mask and they say that prevents it. Know. What what is the issue? Then we're going forward. I mean you're like? Every every every every question is a is a legitimate one and I. I here's the problem though with with what you said I don't mean to you and it's not what you said. Yeah, you're right. If you stick one hundred sixty students in a classroom, and they're all wearing masks, and they're spread out then theoretically, the disease will be contained. That's not the issue. The issue is what happens to those hundred and sixty people when they leave Where do they go? With whom do they come in contact with? And are they still wearing a mask? Yeah. I mean. You know. WOULD IT BE SEC network? You know if all of these schools don't play. I know. y'All. Crass about that but I can't. That's not my that. You know it's not up to me to sign up to anyone the SEC network is dependent on. On activity I mean that was the whole. That was the whole idea behind it. Exactly you know I think we've got to get to the point where we just gotTa. Figure how to move forward, you know. Issue Question Mason. We're four months into this. How do you think we've done? I mean. Well if you had more details about it about how it spreads, and all this and not changing, every other day might be a little different I mean. How can I can't answer that one? You know, don't survive at whatever degrees and don't defraud survival and this and that you know all this stuff is changing every day. So, I mean I, think we're doing the best we can. I mean okay I've been here every everyday for four months. I haven't been locked in the house. I've had to do with customers and everything. I'm fine. Now, you know I've cleaned my hands. Wash my hands stuff like that when I go and stores and all that I don't wear masks twenty four seven. You know I I. Don't know I just been lucky or or what you know I don't know. The way. Everyone's different I mean you may have. An immune system that the help you. Yeah? I mean I'm forty years old. I'm pretty healthy. I. Guess, but you know. I guess you gotTa? Find a way to move forward. I mean we runway for vaccine. Who knows you know? Win There's GonNa work, but whatever I just feel like. We gotTA move forward somehow. Mason. What are we doing right now I mean most people are out in the. We're before we're trying. We're right. And I understand what schools and all that because ain't trying to get lawsuits, and all of that and I understand why Ohio state do what they do? Because, you know it's GonNa. Go through a lawsuit and I understand that. But I just. You know. You GotTa move four somehow someway. And we said in the House and wait you know for something vaccine. Com Damn y'all you haven't done talk about we listened to. You know what I mean. I would. I am. I'm officially worn out from. Those sports to talk about. Politics on your show. I WANNA. Get away from that. Thank you for the call. Say, there James is up next. Hey James. Oh Paul. I'll tell you what I'm not sure. I think it's ninety six miles from. Your place to Greenville South Carolina one hundred and forty. Two. Maybe I got that backwards. From Greenville to Atlanta and it's about three hours from Atlanta to. Over here where I am in Alabama so I, I got two sets of four guys. Play some tennis at eight o'clock at the In the county seat at the local tennis courts so I. Mean You can drive over. Probably take most of Friday to get. You can take the day off. And I'll give you some new sports to report. What do you think? I like that idea how? Are you guys, doubles or singles doubles doubles we. We had a little trouble and when I say, we had a little trouble. Our as one of our buddies put it Our tyrannical mayor put the lockdown on the course for a little while it only play singles and we. We were supposed to have Two sets of tennis balls in other words, only one could serve once it. Had to serve the other and we drove into Montgomery for a little while and play some doubles at a park over there until we got that worked out and practical, but I didn't call Talk About Tennis Paul. Here's one. Ask you even remember the seventies right? Sure do well allegedly. Yeah, all right, and you recall. There was an online I think it was about the sixties, but for me it was the seventy S. if you if you. If you remember the seventies you weren't there. Okay. Don't you recall the old expression? It takes one to know one sure. Art will wanted one of your callers and that's in Italics. One of your callers has. I think it was yesterday. I heard him he. He kept using the term racist. And He was referring to he'll. Over here in Alabama. And what is issue was whether or not? Those, he'll be actually cared about The shooting three zero and eight year old children in various communities over here. And I? Think a better question would be based on the time. He spent on his empathy toward that situation I think maybe a better question would be whether or not. He cared about those young children that were shot. Having US Day Paul. Thank, you thank you very much we will. Alex is up next in New Jersey Hello Alex. It's going on by done. Hey, they're great to hear from you. It's nice to talk to you man. What's WHAT'S GOING ON IN JERSEY? I mean it's jerseys. Things going on man. Crazy here awesome here. To here so So I Kinda WanNa, talk about like the athletes perspective with like the colleges. Taken off the for a lot of colleges taking fall semester. So like I, feel like these kids who are like on scholarships or mainly kids or walk on like. Think they WANNA prove themselves a lot to To like the coaches and everything I. Don't think that they're going to want to sit at home and take this off I. Don't know how it's GonNa work. If there's going to be training or whatever, but I think if it comes down to it to the athletes choices I don't think they're gonNA. Take off. I don't think they WANNA take off. I don't think. I think I think most athletes who want to do it They signed up to do play. Hey, thanks for the call heather. many other guests will join us as we continue here on a Tuesday afternoon. You're listening to the Paul Finebaum show podcast. Welcome you back Tuesday afternoon. Working our way through the first week of July, so we know where we are now. Where would we be two three four weeks from now? WHO Better to discuss? That with Heather dench of ESPN who has been writing about this endlessly and and there is no end in sight, or is there heather great to have you on good afternoon afternoon? They shot me on Paul. Thank you so I. Always seemed like I ask you the same questions, but until we get either vaccine or an answer I'm going to keep asking. You've talked to everybody in college athletics from. From Commissioners, day DIS to people that really do matter. set the scene for us one week into July. So I think everybody is competing. They're much more pessimistic right now than they were a week or two ago, and with that being said I think the best way to describe it is what big twelve commissioner Bob Bos. We told me earlier this week. Which is, we're going to keep putting more? More foot in front of the other until somebody tells us, we can't and so far. Nobody has done that You know the sense that I get as we sit here, right? This second is teams that can't play. We'll play and I. Think we're heading towards an uneven playing field because of that but I think if they're two teams in the League can't play. Everybody else will will roll on there there's still a lot of contingency models on the table conference commissioners are still talking about a spring season. They're talking about a delayed start in conference only games. All of those things are still very real possibilities but I think what's new. Is that by the end of this month? We're GONNA know something one way or another about what the season is really gonNA. Look like if it happens at all. Yeah well I'll say the save the if it happens at all question for later. Because clearly, that wouldn't be the first thing they would announce what it. Well I mean if they can't play then, yeah, they they would say that I mean. But I think the period between next week roughly and the end of preseason workouts is going to be monumental in determining the answer to that because right now they're not even lining up against each other right they they need to wait and see what it looks like when when they're practicing. And what's interesting is. Some might not lined up against each other at all I. Talk to Navy's coach. Can the amount the Mo just about an hour ago? And he was telling me how his practice plan. They literally might not line up against each other off summer, which he explained to me is like a chorus singing together for the first time on onstage during the actual concert. Right so I don't know they. If there's not a season, they they might announce it. August, fifteenth I don't know the answer to that, but I think it's possible that at the end of July. That's when we really find find out. In terms of the issues. What, what are they watching right now? Other than numbers from various campuses is it? The national scene is that the spikes is the states that are in trouble, which is pretty much every state around. What are the keys at keeping their eyes on I think it's two things. One is what you mentioned. which is the national rising cases and the hot spots? You know I talked to Larry Scott, pack twelve commissioner yesterday, and he was talking about Arizona and Southern California. Another main main factor in this is what the university presidents are doing. I mean they are probably the most important people and all this decision making process right now, so that's been one of the hardest things to pay attention to you. Paul is which campuses are opening. which campus closed. WHO's going online? I mean that's that's a big deal. MICRO ESCO at American outlet converse when we look if students aren't on. On campus. All bets are off. So that's the other thing that they're watching. And then finally the third thing is how are their own student athletes protecting themselves? And how seriously are they taking it? Because everybody knew when they came back from wherever they were at home onto campus, they were going to be some positive test. We've passed that I wave. No surprises there. Now's a really tricky part. Where Okay we've. We've got you for our ever long. We have you in our athletic facilities. What are they doing when they leave? That's when the other positive tests are resurfacing, and that's the scary part for a lot of these athletic directors, and that's one of the great things that that navy and Notre Dame which coincidentally are playing each other to start the season have in common is that they are quarantining their players in. In separate spots Notre Dame has them in a hotel. Navy has them on the yard and I mean they're military style. They're on lockdown and the quarterback is rooming with like the fourth string center so that they could still talk about plays, but so that you're not wiping out your entire depth chart so Yeah, those are those are the main things that they're watching now to help. Make these decisions later. Heather just in terms of where we were a couple of weeks ago when it seemed positive to now and I think you answered it with the national situation, but has anything else really changed other than the country seems to be going in the wrong direction. I think what has changed is the testing right and in confidence in the Athletic Department Protocol they're confident in their systems right, but again it goes back to once they leave, and what are they doing for? The other other twenty two hours that they're not under that control, and under that supervision that's where it gets unnerving, but in talking to Shane Lyons yesterday West Virginia's Athletic Director. You Know He. He mentioned. testings gotta get better because while we've come A. A long way in that regard, he said you know for game, week. What happens if you test kids on Wednesday and you still take twenty, you know. What is it like? Twenty four to seventy two hours to get a test result back and during that span you're waiting for the test results. You have other kids contract the virus, and and you don't know, and then you get on a plane or wherever you go, and you go play so I think that. the time the turnaround time for the tests is a concern for a lot of people, but definitely they're more confident in their contact tracing and the protocols that they have set up on campus. Talking to heather. ESPN I know there's best case scenario right now have it's too confusing, and it's not going to get any clearer, but you mentioned. Almost survival of the fittest approach How would that work if I mean if you can play, you can play if you can't you can't I mean how how weird is that? Is Really. Weird and you know what if you thought the College? Football playoff was unfair before. Get ready for this. Because if we're headed down this path, then I mean it's it. Everything's going to have an astros by everything. And I I mean one of the things that they're working on, and they're trying to figure out and I feel like I. Say this every time I talk to. You is what does happen if Alabama plays ten games and wins them all but somebody else plays twelve and loses one. I don't know so those are things that not only does the College Football playoff have to figure out what exactly does it take to qualify for it? If we even get to that point, the conferences have to figure some of those questions out to. A lot of writers. In our business or pushing a spring season, I don't hear too many other people are doing it other than maybe the Ivy League tomorrow given. What you know what people are saying about that possibility? The reality of that based on every person that I have talked to within the past five days is that that is a last resort Is it feasible and doable? Absolutely do they want to absolutely not That's where everybody stands on it. They want to try and figure out a way to play during the fall. If they can or if they can't. Then you don't. Because what I'm hearing is two things one. WHO's to say that in the spring? It's going to be any better than it is right this second and number two. There's a thing called the NFL draft, right and number three pushing up against the twenty twenty one season. So there are multitude of concerns that go with that again is possible. Yes, they could figure out a way to do it. But what people are telling me as they don't want to unless they have to? And Heather As we get toward the end of the month. You mentioned. Decisions are going to be made. You talked all these people they all. They're all cordial with one another, but This is a debate independent. How do you think these you think you think we will see individual school decisions conference decisions. the NCW doesn't have a specific voice and all that all this, although Mark Emmer does have a allowed and big Dick. Yeah, you know I. To a certain extent, it could be a combination of those things because I think you have to go back to where this all started. which is the state by state government response meaning? How many people can you have in a stadium? Can you have people? How can you have people on campus you know looking at what what USC's doing in terms of going to mainly online courses, but having some students on campus for things like labs and stuff football fall into that jurisdiction so. I think yes. The commissioners want to do this collectively, but at the end of the day I. think that they're going to have to make some individual decisions. They're not always all on the same page with everything, but they're, but they're trying to be because if you look at the College Football playoff in a normal year. You have to to make it work right. I mean things are even to begin with not just from League to League and how many games they play in a conference, but from the Vision Division. So the more they can be on the same page. They know that the more it will help the sport, but also at the same time they they might choose to do things differently, and they're. They're stays in. Their schools might have no choices well. Are We. We? Even even talking any longer about fans in the stands, or is that still possible depending on where you are? I think it depends on on where you are I mean I talked to Dan? Rather Kovic at Clemson a while ago and he was already talking about switching to mobile ticketing so that whenever they do get an answer they can wait until the last minute and then boom. Your ticket shows up on your phone. If you're a Clemson Fan, you know, meanwhile at Stanford Bernard Muir. Literally across the country is like I to wait and see was the governor says and our stadiums fifty thousand, and if I can only get ten. Ten and that's what I'm going to have to live with so I think it. I think it varies. I think the hope is still there, but again I go back to our regional question, which is the pessimism has has certainly arisen, but look where it wasn't beginning to and I. Think there are also people saying you know. If people are masks and of student, athletes can protect themselves and help stop the spread of the virus. Maybe this thing can turn back the other way like it did a couple of weeks ago. The optimism I don't know about the. I don't know more telling you what they tell me man. Back soon, thanks had to really appreciate it face law. Did. It shows been following in real time and. You heard what she said. We'll take a short break back with. You're listening to the Paul Finebaum show podcast. More on the subject of the college football season a little bit later we'll talk to. Dennis Dodd from CBS. You heard from heather there about. Her View very interesting. One to say the least ricky is up next in Mobile Alabama hey ricky. I Paulo appreciate you. Let Me Talk Man Look. I've been really praying every day and really seeking God, look. This this virus Started with two billionaire went to Africa. I'm just making the story up so it on two billion to billionaire went to Africa Paul country. And they went over and they wound up buying up all the politicians and all the. Drug companies and they went over because there were so rich and just bought everybody off, so they can program. That's the ball. The deep state is in control of everything. The news media he has. All the college liberal college especially liver stage. They have a stronghold. Give trump. Trump is absolutely destroyed them and what are gather what Lord Showing Me They're going down in. One point one question here. How how trump destroying them? Well fixing. Take all the. Estimate cases fixing to be blow wide open. All that don't come to light Every, there's a lot of people go to jail I. Mean this thing is going to get ugly, but it's you know they I mean. There's another election in November, though and he only I mean if he if he doesn't win reelection, his time is almost over. Trust me. That's what this is all about. It was the Russia Gate I now. The flu virus thank the deep state and China's PCP don't want our system to get back online because. We only have two and a half minutes on, so so this was a Okay, okay? Hundred and thirty thousand people dead, three million people infected. That's that was done by by China purposely. They counted the number counting the numbers of everybody. We're dead people dying from other diseases. Paul were they at? Where's all the numbers? I had four people that died in my apartment complex, and they all were dying. Vote Age and they wind up. The people come back coach. They especially got right next door to me. Donald canceled four days cancer and they said he died with You know the bars. That's how they're cooking. The hostels getting twelve to fourteen to forty thousand dollars a pop. That's why they're lying. That's why they're cooking the books, and now on the city is saying this. This is good news. Do fixing up. Be downgraded from pandemic anymore because they realize that. Ah, the death rate is going well. Hold on! Hold on a second the people that called it a pandemic or the World Health Organization. They fixed the downgraded from a pandemic to a regular flu bug. Where'd you hear that good? Offer their website CDC website there. Being a doctor filed to Bill Gates in trouble would. You might. You might. You might want to double. Check the information there, okay? I'll swear true. Paul up, swear through. It's GonNa, happen, it's just one of the. I you, may you may. Maybe they updated it a minute ago, but I'm not sure the CDC has said Nick the CDC. So you're saying the CDC along. CDC says on its website that there are about the downgrade it from pandemic all the way to a flu. They're just GONNA THEY'RE GONNA. Skip epidemic. I guess. They go go the EPA. Grant Back Down so the love that it is because all the testing did was proved that we have. We have immunity God gives them you. Can so what are they going to call it I just need to know this. It's a flu. That's what it is. It's the senior. So the Center for Disease Control in Atlanta is about it's on their website. They're going to downgrade this to the flu. Is that? Is that what you're telling me? They don't come down from a pandemic I. Don't know about what they downgraded to, but. I feel much better. I'm heading to the airport right now. I'm going to Europe Xinmin.

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It sounds really bad does heather has done some reporting on that and so much else, and she joins us from ESPN. Heather, great W on. It's always a pleasure. I know you know what it means, but I'll let you take the audience through the process. We said hello to you. Hey Paul. Thanks for having me on I. I think the best way to describe. It is through reporting, which is what Ohio state athletic. Director Gene Smith told me when I spoke to him last night and I asked him. Is this a way to protect yourself? Is it a liability issue? and His answer was no. This is not a legal document. That's why we're calling pledge, and that's because athletic directors throughout the country are concerned about what happens when these college kids leave the confines of Control of athletic facilities. And you know this is, this is the concern as departments are bending. Bending over backwards Paul to not only meet CDC guidelines, but to exceed them to protect these student athletes, but as soon as these players Wanna go to their favorite Taco bar to their girlfriend's house or the other bar whatever it might be all bets are off, so gene Smith is saying is we put this plan in place to try to get them to promise to us that? When they leave the athletic facilities, they will wear a mask. They will social distance. They will be responsible and do what they can to protect themselves the team and stop the spread of the corona virus. I'm glad you explained that. Because we've all been reacting with our is Eyebrows raised heather beyond that. You can't just look at your television and get a snapshot that the numbers are going up because we're. We're in a different spot here. Fourteen weeks in. We were weak, one two or three, but. Some of this negativity comes at really inopportune time as college football moves, everything else moves toward an opening what? What is your reporting? Tell you about where we are well. I've been on the phone all day. Actually trying to answer that question because things are changing and I spoke to Florida. Athletic Director Scott Stricklin today, because he's in Florida where cases arising, and he's still very optimistic. That college football is going to start on time and we're. They are located. I don't WanNa. Use the word safe, but they don't have a lot of cases within their outlet department right now in the community that they're in and you know I was on there. Zoom call last week with. With her doctors and they did a fantastic job again putting things in place to protect student athletes. Now you go to Houston where they had to shut down everything because there were not only six positive cases, but the keeping they were symptomatic. I don't know what to what degree, but that's important because it reminds everyone that they are student athletes. Yes, they are not invincible. Nobody knows exactly how this is going to impact the person that actually gets infected by so I think that's important to remember and I also talked to big twelve. Commissioner Bulls beat today. Yes I'm still very confident that we're going to have a college football season. You're going to see college football games, but it's going to be interrupted. It might be at levels at different places based on the resources that they have going to have outbreaks. Some schools will be able to handle them. Some schools will not and then finally I just hung up with Shane Lyons. Who is the chair of the Football Oversight Committee and he had a great quote, he said the coronavirus is controlling us. We are not controlling it. So as he said as I, sit here today I. Think we're going to have a college football season, but anybody who tells you that they actually know is lying. And Heather Those are the quote. Quotas fascinating as both parties are always fascinating, but. It seems like if you go back I. Think Friday before Memorial Day when when everyone was declaring work, we're coming back on Terry workout at that moment. I think we all thought. This was finally subsiding but I. Listening to you. I'm hearing a lot of butts right now. I'm. It's almost like we've turned the clock, Bax, eight or ten weeks. Have we not well? I think it's fair to raise more questions and this voluntary workout period is a great litmus test because I think people are realizing although not unexpected, there are positive test and athletic department. Officials braced for that. They conceded that that would happen I. Think my question is. When will we know the scope of it? It and what the impact will be on the fall because you have some programs like Ohio, state who are not releasing the numbers, so there might be one case. There might be ten. There might be fifty I have no idea. And at what point does it constitute a cluster for a school? Florida's Doctors Kanana that for me last week. and I think it depends on how good the schools contact! Contact tracing system is how can you limit the scope of one positive tests and Shane Lines, and I were just talking. That's one of the next steps for coaches and individual teams to figure out is how do we hold meetings? How do we keep one infected quarterback away from the rest of the quarterback on the depth chart so that we don't wipe out an entire unit for a game right all. All those things are important. I think what you'll see as we enter the voluntary workouts going to mandatory I think you're still going to see position meetings via zoom I mean even though the players are on campus I would be surprised if a lot of them are happening in team meeting rooms unless you're about, you know a small position group that's spread out in a team auditorium watching film like that. I'm just having a conversation with you and I'm trying to act like I'm Anthony, FAUCI or anything but. I've been out and about more in the last week or two and I have. A while in. Unless. You someplace where we're. We're mass are mandated, and that's only a few places I i. don't see anyone wearing mass. I walked in a place yesterday there were eight or ten people gathered around the table. And these are just anecdotal moments, but college students are. I, mean! We were both college students. We you're bulletproof. Think about stuff like this to you know you. Don't you go to the restaurant and you go to the bar and you do what you do when you're a college student and you you go to your friends, houses, et Cetera, and again that's circles back to your original question. That's what Indiana Director Fred, glass and Ohio State Athletic Jeans Mess where we're trying to curtail just trying to get these kids and on face messages video messages. Messages with their parents to say. Hey, promise US promised us that. When you go out, you're going to wear masks. Put Your name down. Sign it so that if one of our doctors or strength coaches, or whoever might be sees you out and not doing it. They can call you out on it, and there's a consequence you know. Maybe you will not be allowed in the facility Ohio state, so you're not going to lose your scholarships, but you might not be allowed back in the facility. Right now I know you're doing the reporting on this If you look ahead? Every seems like eight weeks ago. We were looking at the end of May early June it as a critical moment. What are the moments right now that you're paying the most attention to? And where does the return forget? College athletes coming back for voluntary workouts at some point, presidents are going to have to decide to bring students back on campus, and it's not that far away. Right, it's not I think the next time to watch. Is that two week period in the middle of July where they start to come back and coaches can start to interact with them. They're calling it and enhanced summer access period. It's different than any summer prior to this, and that's because the coaches are allowed. The players are allowed to go through walk-throughs. No helmets. No pads use a football, but that's where they're out there together. That's where we see it right and and I think again. The voluntary workouts are sort of the baby step, and then you get to that point where. They're back there on the field and. What. What does that do a couple of months from that? What does what does it look like between mid July and mid to late August because that to me is when everyone is truly really together again I mean you'll get notre dame right now. They're bringing players back. There is located in a hotel on campus that's GonNa. Change once fall starts talking to go back to their dorm rooms, obviously at a certain point all summer other in the hotel. But I think as you start to see more football related activities in a contact sport. That's when you start to really pay close attention to what's the scope of this? Fantastic conversation as always from Heather Dinner Cheddar? Thank you so much can't wait to read more from you and we will talk to you soon, thank. Amazing, I mean. Everybody thinks it's easy. It's not as you've heard. heathers described era. We'll take a break talk about it. A couple of guests coming up on the latest developments from. STILLWATER and the head coach at Tcu a little bit later on. We're back after this. You're listening to Paul Finebaum. Show podcast. We welcome you back in a great to have everyone here. Let's check out more calls and talk to Carol in New Mexico hello. Welcome to our program. Oh. Hey Paul. I my first call to you was last week, and now here I am again. Thank you. May Get! They get to be a habit. know you're not attended by people saying hey, Paul. Are you know I'm not I'm virtually not offended by anything Carol, but that's okay. Well the reason I ask. Carry their. We're having a great conversation. Carol suddenly disappeared after waiting in our. Mike is up next. Hey, Mike, great w! Powell Thanks for taking my call Three's now calls a guy called fair while go about the police officers over and Atlanta and possibly the reason they couldn't chase that guy on. They might not be in shape. And you know we don't know what we did here in Sheffield. I realized you know within the hard process I'm not kept asking the question while they face required from being shape to do a policeman job, and they hire and flies not necessarily five years down the road ten years down the road. Why is it not just as important and no one could answer that question. So what we did, the only option I could come up with is we made it mandatory for any place officer to be eligible for any promotion? He had to pass the same PTA tested. He had to pass to hiring and and it s been three or four years ago. And it's been very very positive, and there's been you know. Alter started going the GM this just upgraded the whole department and And I would encourage any police department anywhere to do whatever they have to do whatever they can do. To maintain the physical fitness of their default. Yeah. You don't really think about that. But I I just assumed that that officers were in shape, but we found out there. That's a really interesting suggestion. Thank you so much for calling. Let's check out our Y. in South Carolina Hello. Hey how you doing. I'm wild. Thank you. Yeah. I just wanted to touch on a hot issue. If you will and I think it's a very key metric when it comes to cove nineteen, it's not mortality, infections or hospitalizations. There's something Jeff Columbus mission a few times, and that's construction. See I. Did a little homework this weekend all around my neighborhood and I saw two guys build the fence now looked untreated wood. The type WO- would find it at home. Depot Lowe's perhaps eighty seven. I'm really not sure, but I roll down a window said. How's it going? And they said you good good. said. How much law you got that fence there? They said L., maybe a couple more days I'm planning to drive around the market. Check on the progress, but if you would, could you please your remit? These findings Jeff for me. I will. I'm sorry to I'm not only doing that. I'm going out and videotaping it and sending it to Jeff just to prove that I see construction going on. Thank. He mentioned the Alto he mentioned again. Jal Able that no one applied to for months I. Don't think it's because people don't want to work I think just because people don't want to work for Jeff I mean there's. Some guy blabbing about football nonstop. Know offers cop the next day. There's a point where you just have to decide. You're better off staying home and. That's great. Great to hear from you David is out in. California David thanks great to have you on. Grade and thanks for taking the call once again. Thank. You listen was originally going to. Talk about covert and the prospects for the fall, but figured instead I'm GonNa. Dig Myself into a little hole here. Follow up, go ahead. Scholars Query to you about Your view on on the statues. that is a topical issue right now bringing down a lot of the symbols that confederacy, and listened to the interest of full disclosure because that's always important. I have never lived in the south so I am offering up an opinion that is obviously from another part of the country, but you know I. Want. Maybe others to have a little bit of an open mind. And appreciate that. Even if we ignore for the time being. The racial elements of the debate about bringing down. These monuments to confederate leaders. I think what's equally important. Is that no country on the face of the earth? has ever erected. Monuments honor and commemorate. traders. And those that have lost. Even if we eliminate the most obviously Important element to debate. You know really take a step back and think of it in the context of WHO in the world. Commemorates those that? Listen I. I am not the right person David to argue. And defend. Anyone here. But. I'm not civil war historian but. The leader of the. Will, offer one thing. That's important. I mean I I have I have I have read about? The surrender the civil war and you've used the word trader twice. Robbery lead who commanded the the confederates surrendered. He was not he was not tried for treason. He was he was. He was allowed to keep his sword his his his. His horse and was was allowed to go home on that horse, so he could plant for the upcoming. Crop, so I mean I. I understand the difference. I'm not. I'm not on the side I. Don't have side and I've tried to make that clear. It's well at that. Point I wanted to make because I think he gave a very elegant diplomatic response. I think you used the phrase. You know you weren't inclined to engage in kind of rewriting history. And I think there's a misperception about the seventeen hundred odd monuments these sprout up organically after the civil war. I understand number one. Interestingly, from what I understand over ninety five percent of them were funded by private citizens on public lands. They were not active government. Secondly. There were three sort of You know concentrations. Of the erection of these monuments, and they all occurred at various points in time when. southern legislatures felt that you know whether it was implementing Jim, crow or otherwise. That The efforts to engage in more civil rights were being imposed on them. The these were very deliberate post. Civil war politically driven. Things that were that were erected, so it's really the last question David. I I ask her out of curiosity, but. I am conflicted even asking because I. I grew up in the south, and I poured the things that I saw and read about as a young child and have continued to fight in my own lane anyway I can and have and have record to prove it. But I wonder why you at this juncture. Feel the need to bring this up. Well. You know fair question. I think well. The the obvious answer is number one. I preface my call. I was prepared to talk about another topic, but the fact that it was raised in the last half hour kind of spurred. Interest on my part in secondly I think it's hard to divorce it. You know from a lot of the current conversations that are taking place. You know we're all. You know we're we're. We're all children of our environment and I think are particular environment. We find our little, but. I know. I sound like I'm defending. The South and I'm not even though I am a southerner. But. This! And I know you can't take the monument part out of it, but other than other than that. Are you going to paint a brush across the south for every one of its transgressions? Or. Are we going to try to get along? It's quick mean southerners did not create the issue in Atlanta and in Minneapolis. bad policemen did. No No, it's! It's quite quite the opposite. I think to your point when. when we reflect on these. monuments very often. The primary rationale argument of supportive retaining them is that it's a part of heritage and culture exactly. And I think that if you were to ask somebody who's not from the South and. and I admit this may be a victim of stereotyping. If you ask somebody you know, give me a few. Aspects of southern culture in your view, I think a lot of us would say courtesy. Politeness, sure a certain degree of social conservatism. You know a whole host of things we would say represent southern heritage and culture. Military treason and and and military defeat. I wouldn't think would. Identify as ones. I would have to run. Break I I i. don't know what the I mean to me. This was settled a long time ago and I can tell when somebody is using the wording, defeat and treason. that. You seem like a big deal. I mean I. I I mean I personally. Don't care one way or the other and I say that not because I'm being diplomatic is I. It doesn't that. You asked me so I'm answering right? The civil war, the civil war was not my my war, I mean I was more concerned about from a family history standpoint. What? What the? What the Russians were doing to my family, and the pogroms in the Nazis were doing my family in concentration camps. That's my those are things that are dear to my heart, because my family was affected by that, they were not affected by the civil war, but for those who were then. It's a conversation piece and I thank you for your call. Thank you both you. All the best. You're listening to the Paul. FINEBAUM show podcast. Welcome back. One of the more interesting stories of the day has come out of Oklahoma. Where my gundy once again finds himself under attack this time not from the media who came after him for his inarticulate and insensitive comments a few months ago about covid nineteen this time. The attacks coming from his own program and to join US Scott Right who covers college football out in Oklahoma for the Oklahoma and joining us and I wanted to try to get some context because this is a story has a number of pieces first of all Scott. Thank you for making time good afternoon. Fully Paul thanks for having me. Before we get too deep into it I. Think there are probably a lot of people out there who don't even understand what we're talking about here and I'm just going to toss this up in the air and let you fill in the blanks, but a picture started surfacing of Mike Gundy over the weekend, wearing an A. N.. T. Shirt before we even get to why the reaction can can you explain? Gundy end is a television network. Happens to be favored at times by the president. beyond that I. I've never seen it, can you? Can you help understand? Give it some context on why why oh, and first of all is so. Is is being is being. Received, and there is so much reaction to it. Well it's a you know. It's an a network that that you mentioned is is favourite at times by the President you know you look how it's viewed from a media perspective it's does not have a strong reputation as as being a an accurate news network It's known to promote propaganda and conspiracy theories and very far right leaning ideal ideology, so it's. you know my my gun is? Make comments about the network before and. and Gundy never. Shied away from sharing even if sort of subtly his his political beliefs on on a variety of topics, and how they apply to college football, but this was something that he mentioned in those in those same comments that that you to earlier back in in early April about how he was spending a lot of time watching away in, and it's You know there are are. There's a very strong feeling about what what Gandhi stands for politically and and this was something that. furthered and impact. Those those feelings. And Scott. Very few very few. Football coaches. Dabble or or stick their toe in the water of. Politics Mike Leach in fact from Mississippi State. And formerly from the big twelve in the pack twelve has done that before, but but gundy so so he's seeing. He wears his t shirt over the weekend. He has had prior comments about about that so that now we're up to date on what Oh a in is. Tell us what happened today. So the picture comes out from from him recently fishing in a a large lake in Oklahoma, and you went striper fishing with a guy down there who was actually the one who sent out the the photo he was wearing the L.. A. And t shirt and wants to. Hubbard saw that and Tuba obviously. Trophy, candidate, a very well respected member of of this team and at the team's most prominent player. has been very vocal about things going on in the country following. The death of George Floyd and a Marbury, and and he and a group of his teammates have been speaking out on a lot of things that have have bothered them some of them with volunteer to protests in Oklahoma and and been active in how they've approached the the current state of race in our society right now, they were part of a video that they they released. That was very eloquently, Don and and very well put together including a lot of of athletes, not just football players, but other sports so So when to Hubbard's saw this photo, he. he decided that he couldn't stand for it anymore and said that he will not participate in anything for Oklahoma state. Until things change will change in all caps in a twitter message. He hasn't spoken since then hasn't talked to the media at all to my knowledge. She hasn't tweeted again since that I haven't checked in in five minutes in the lot contained in five minutes on twitter, but You know that's That's kind of where things stand immediately. He began getting support from teammates aiming along the meager just hill, former teammate of his WHO's now with Baltimore Ravens spoke out in in support of him several other players, and it hasn't. It hasn't been drawn down. Racial lines either been like players speaking out in support of him as well so it. It seems clear that there is. Something to what is bothering to Hubbard. We don't know exactly what it is. Justice Hill made the comment to to another poster on twitter. That you call you don't see. The, day to day, and what happens every day at Oklahoma state, so there's definitely some substance to this. We just don't know exactly what it is at this time, and it's something that We're working hard to figure out. Yeah, there's no question where you are. which is of course Oklahoma. President of the United States is coming to Tulsa this weekend. You. Live there I don't but. I mean it's considered a a trump state. I don't think there's any doubt about that. In terms of. Reaction from from Gundy or anyone else. remind to assume we haven't heard from the university yet. That's correct. The university declined to comment. Gandhi hasn't said anything at this point but but you're. You're exactly right in that that this is a trump state if I, remember the numbers right, I could be a little bit off, but I think it was roughly sixty five percent of the state voted for for trump in the in the last election so. It gives you kind of an idea of where things stand politically in Oklahoma So it's and yeah, yes, trump's gonna be in town. Later this week. In. Tulsa actually is where he'll be but He'll be in the state for four rally. I and I'm just really interested to go back for a second on Gundy, because it is rare as I alluded Scott that that that football coaches they all have opinions some don't Nick Saban famously four years ago, on the on the day of the presidential race between Clinton and trump. said he didn't realize what was election day. Now you have a movement by many schools and students to to give that day offer for for young people, so they can vote but in the past. What else Gundy said beyond the covert comments in relation to politics? Bring us to this point. One of the one of his common goto statements surrounds the the transfer portal, the NCAA transfer portal, and how it was was driven by a liberal agenda and you know motions to to try to give athletes more of a voice. And and and more say so. In In what they feel is important or what they feel they need to do for themselves. you know he? Got These comments have typically. Stuck to how he sees politics. Involving football, and That's just one of the examples. That is a regular Goto if he he's never been a fan of the transfer portal, even though he's, he's obviously used it as as he felt that he needed for his program, so. it's been It's been one of one of the regular points of contention with him in that that he feels the. The liberalism of the NCAA is is a you know part of what's making his job. Before you go and Scott, every coaches has had a different role. In this national conversation over the last three weeks some and we've seen them. have been out front. we've talked to a couple of them. Here Dabble Sweeney over the weekend. was front and center at a black lives rally meeting. Others have just simply issued statements. What has my gun. The senator done if he's done anything in the last three weeks other than showing up with a one America network. T. Shirt. He did he did issue. A statement very early on when when protests were beginning to happen in support of of the of improving race relations in our country. was I I don't recall the exact wording off the top of my head, but but. It was very basic short, and to the point of what he wanted to say, and and that's been it. We haven't haven't heard or seen anything else. From him on that topic though some of his other coaches including a couple that I've written about within the last couple of weeks have have been very vocal, including offensive line coach Charlie Dickey who recently celebrated his thirtieth anniversary married to a a black woman, and he's He's white and then Casey done the offensive coordinator is the only a minority, offensive coordinator or coordinator. Period in the big toe conference right now, so he's. He's spoken out as well on on the topic of race in terms of. Of of the opportunities that are out there for coaches like him. This may not be this this question and this will be my final one may not be easily answered, Scott. But how important is it for? Mike Gundy to to get to get something out on this because this has been a rough afternoon for him and he's already got. Considerable amount baggage. He I think it's important you know the. The apology that he issued after his comments back in early April about Cova. was the first time I had ever. I ever recall him apologizing for something he said in the in the public, and I think that that was driven, because there are some very influential people, either financially or or in. Positions of influence with Oklahoma state. Who would like to see him removed from his position, and that's going to be the the concern for him the issue for him going forward right now. you know he's got a an ironclad contract unfirable but if, they. Were to find. Cause to to let him go from his job there would be. A significant group of people of very. High Importance Oklahoma state who would be in favor of that idea, and and we're and we're that way before today so I think I think damage control. Is is something that that Mike Gundy is going to have to to pay close attention to right now, and and make sure that he is approaching this from the right heart, and the right mind in how he deals with his with his players, and if there are past incidents that You know that people felt. Were you know were? For lack of a better word, racist There's there's going to be I think consequences to to be dealt with on on his side of things. Got Thank you very much. I know not tough story I know it's very fluid, not easy to formulate a lot of information in in real time, but I hope you'll come back. Thank you very very much for your time. Absolutely. Thank you Paul. What a fantastic! An interesting conversation! That was with Scott we are heading to a break Gary Patterson will join us in just a few minutes. We're taking a break in back with more of your calls after this. You're listening to Paul Finebaum show podcast. We welcome you back a couple of minutes ago in this segment and Squirrel is up next. How are you score all? I'm doing great. Thank you so much for taking my call and. Polish after listening to Mr Ray MR spray there. It's been real interesting the past few weeks. How? The social justice mob aided by the media as Kinda. You bombed to the point now where if you're conservative or have conservative values in any sense I mean. You're automatically a racist now until you can prove that you're not I mean. Have you seen that or been I? Mean this show is kind of been kind of been a arm of it, so I mean are you so you don't see that, or do you kind of see where I'm coming from? yeah I I think you're you're you're maybe What we're talking about. Here is the top player on on Oklahoma state who is offended and says he will not participate in any other activity by Oklahoma state. That's the issue. The issue isn't whether the media is an arm against the conservative movement in this country. Out Against. The enemy is. Don't blame me. We're reporting on shooter which. We're reporting on what the top player on this team is saying and he's backed up by players. I. Mean this is not. This is not the rush. Limbaugh show here, okay. It's amazing that players now consider it. If you have conservative values, you're racist. That's. Maybe maybe Maybe that's Mr Gundy's issue, not mine. This is football team I'm just a host of of a call in show. Anyway we'll continue the conversation. Thanks, thanks very. Squirrel? Our to go, one of those coaches is next. Gary Patterson we'll be right back.

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Hour 2: Chiefs Weapons' Contract Extensions

"Tomorrow, on ESPN A WNBA doubleheader starting noon eastern with the League's top-scorer, Asia Wilson, and the going for their seven straight win against the mystics and that's followed by candace. Parker in the sparks taking on the fever both games are tomorrow on. ESPN. On the ESPN. APP. Well. This breaking news out of the NBA just the last few minutes this from Chicago are Adrian Ski reporting the Bulls have dismissed head coach Jim Boylan. He had been there coach since December of two thousand, Eighteen, Chicago was thirty, nine at eighty, four in his tenure team says research for new coach will begin immediately. So that's some news out of the NBA, as we crossed the top of the hour here just after ten am in the East I Mike Greenberg this get up on Espn Bristol Connecticut this morning be with you for the next hour tuning in. I take, they will be live starting at eleven am eastern for a full two hours. We're jam packed with a ton of really important news from around college and pro football and more but we begin with the NBA game of the night in the bubble, the performance of the night and the player of the restart. Damian Lillard has been spectacular if you don't love watching him play, you don't love basketball. They needed this win to get into the next room to move it. Forward, and his team was down seven and then dame did that eight of fourteen from three pulling up from the logo and not going down there within four a few possessions later needs to find some space drills. It's another three singlehandedly trying to shoot his team to the playoffs down by one still done one under three to go Lillard this time looking for Nurkic, working hard inside the Big Fella? Yes. He had twenty two lasers up one nets possession they're fighting chemical avert. Move what are the body control. Sixteen of Twenty nine are up one. Next. Blazer possession. Lillard Gary Trent Junior. In. The Corner Sixteen off the bench for him blazers up dues under a minute fifteen to go lillard look heart he's working. Do you think it doesn't mean anything to them coming up from behind the avert diving 'cause the steel great defense great effort by Damian Lillard Blazers, get the ball and a chance to extend lead, and now it's Dame's backward mate cj mccollum es to his twenty-five Blazers up for. Lavar. If that was a question, he's got the answer hooper. The harm knocks down the foul shot. He had thirty seven Netzer within one blazers would miss one last chance for the nets. Can they the Portland Trailblazers? No they can't L- avert. No Good Blazers hold on. They would've wild one dame lillard forty, two points twelve assists on go they will play Memphis in the play in game on Saturday and alert has been spectacular according to allies. He becomes the first player ever to win the regular season with three straight forty. Point, games his one hundred fifty four combined points over that span by far the most by any player in the last three games of the season more hopes as we continue meanwhile to a very interesting story from the NFL, the seahawks waived someone you would probably never heard rookie cornerback came a silvering after he was caught on video trying to sneak a woman into the team's hotel the NFL network first reported the circumstances of this release noting that the woman was wearing seahawks gear in an attempt to disguise herself as a player. When we opened our show with this morning Dominic Foxworth because this is sort of the way he is. You chose to lean into the funny and candidly it was funny. The way you said we'll give you one moment to do that. Again before we get to an entirely different angle on this, how should one look at the actions of this corner from the Seattle Seahawks? I talked about how being a corner you have to take risk and you have to want it more than the next guy and so maybe it bodes well for the type of player that he is. But now the more I think about it I think that taking the bag could be the guy who the Bouma bus is GonNa, get you a pick six and then he's going to give two touchdowns in the same half. So I'm on the fence now is high on signing him but now I'm a little concern, the more I think. About it as the day goes on, they get a little bit more practical reading. That's fair. In the meantime, he won't get a chance to do any of those things because they waved immediately and the Question Rob, which is if this were to happen with a much more important player L- let's say this was a player who was critical to the teams plans rather than someone who probably wouldn't have made the team anyway how do you think something like this would be handled an and how have situations similar to this been handled in the past? Well, they wouldn't cut them. I can guarantee that. So I'M GONNA go back into a training camp at the Patriots I think was twenty fourteen Jimmy Johnson came in and talked to the team and he had talked about a situation where he's the head coach I think it was the Miami time or knows Dallas sorry he was with Dallas it was in Miami when they asked him, it's out there. You can see the article, but he told the team that somebody fell. Asleep in the meetings and it was a young kid that really didn't have any stance on the team, and so they release them and somebody asked him in Miami Hey if that if that was troy Aikman, would you have released him and he said no, I would have went over and tapped him on the shoulder and said, hey, troy wake up. So his point was be a guy that I come in tap on the shoulder and say wake up because obviously you have. A lot of value to the team, and if you don't have value to the team while they're going to cut you see I think Kimberly. My first thought is how about don't be the guy who falls asleep in the meeting or don't be the guy who smuggles the woman into the hotel dressed as one of your teammates I I don't ask for a lot but is that too much? What what do you think of this whole thing? I mean here's the issue we're talking about human beings. So there are no foolproof plans here there. There's no guarantee that every player will do exactly what they're supposed to although that's the whole given. How strange at time we're living in I mean even one nfl Gio Jam told me he didn't do the team hotel because you know why? Because he knew guys would try to sneak out to go see their ladies or lady and what do we have here situation where a guy tried to smuggle in his lady or female friend visitor I mean we're dealing with human emotions at a really weird time in society so. I understand that I guess what I'm saying is particularly in these circumstances I need to ask you a serious question but you're you're being on the verge of laughing is making me be on the verge of laughing. All right. Say Doesn't have to be dealt with differently, which is to say it's one thing in the old days you know. Legendary stories about players you know. Trying to sneak women into the dorm during training camp and all that kind of stuff. But there's a totally different situation right the level of professionalism that is going to be required on everybody's part. If they're going to manage to play a football season, let everyone get paid what they wanna get paid and everything else i. mean everyone is GonNa have to take that seriously right? I agree wholeheartedly I think they should take it seriously and it's on the players to try to help encourage to other guys to do the right thing to protect all of their money and the season, and to give us all the things that we want. However, if the plan for the NFL season is to hope that everyone is going to isolate themselves. Especially guys who are young and single and live alone. They're going to go to work and then go home and not call anybody not invited not inviting anybody over I think that while we can put the pressure on the players to continue to do this I think that we should actually look at the people who looked at this and said, this is a good plan and say, maybe this is a bad plan if you're relying on people to be perfect not just young twenty something year old man obviously we are very stupid at that age but anybody you are asking for the expectation that sixteen hundred guys are going to be perfect. Now I don't think that's a realistic expectation. Best. Case scenario is just a few guys go out and make some bad decisions in just a few guys contracted. But to think that, no one's going to and this is just doing trade again, this is not easily win the ability to go back to their apartments and their homes. This is training camp where you are locked down and I guarantee you this is the only one we heard of but this ain't the only one who's doing it on the only one who has tried and probably succeeded. So I just. Think it's foolish for us to sit here and obviously we can reprimand him and say that was dumb. But it's foolish for us to sit here and think that we're not this isn't going happen and somehow all the players in NFL are just going to go to work go home I. Don't think that I could do that when I was that age tragically at all I did when I was that age but that's a whole other story for time. Okay. Let me get to something that did happen in the NFL yesterday. Day To be tight end George Kindle and the forty niners agreed to a five year seventy million dollar extension making him the highest paid tight end in NFL history and just a few hours. Later, Travis Kelsey agreed to a four year extension with Kansas City worth a little over fifty seven, million dollars a Richard Sherman reacted to the kindle news by Tweeting well-deserved best in the business. Any question of that Jeremy had the on all this Germany. What's been the reaction around the league to these guys getting these huge deals Greenie sources I talk to her just relieved that money is being spent and players getting paid. It's been very slow four to five months due to Kobe one, thousand nine. So it's a good sign for the health of the League and several execs I spoke to our very intrigued by what the chiefs are doing a couple months ago they had about one million dollars in salary cap space since then they resigned Travis Kelsey Chris Jones. Patrick Mahomes and so they've done. So by selling championship dreams Hey, let's get the band back. Together, let's give this runs for four, five, six years and go chase world championships in the case of Kelsey said, Hey, maybe take back backloaded deal a longer term deal that gives us flexibility on the salary cap and when Patrick Mahomes is already doing. So other guys follow suit there. There's a lot of people out there. I heard from saying that as much as kiddle got and by tight end standard, it was huge that he is still underpaid given everything he means to that team you hear that from people inside the business. Yes. The source that kiddle privately feels that way. His can't feel that way because they went into this process saying he is an elite playmaker regardless of position wide receivers Goodwin's make eighteen to twenty million dollars a year. So that was the initial aim, the forty niners we're never going to go that far because of the pandemic and the tight end market is suppressed guys really making about ten million dollars per year. So it'll did his very best by. Going after guarantees, he got forty million dollars guarantees thirty million dollars upfront fifteen million per year. That's pretty good money in these very uncertain time. So both parties are happy. Yes it's Jerry. Jones. told me it's not a stable time to be making generational money kind of decisions. Well, Jeremy Thank you very much and let me just put some numbers up there while kittles extension is the most ever for a tight end he's a bargain when compared to wide receivers. Tenth in guaranteed money and eleven in average per year and so they bring the rest of my crew back in here kimberly if I would to you that George cadle is. Tremendously underpaid relative to what he means and that he actually should have gotten MVP consideration last year would you tell me that I'm overstating it? I think he is the MVP of of the forty niners I think what? He's able to do. The Guy Greeting the guy is an assault on the senses. He's crazy Cyborg you know part offensive lineman part running back wide receiver I think it's criminal that he's making less money per year than some wide receivers in the NFL because he does so much and the guy he wants to destroy impasse pro, just as much as he wants to bowl you over just for to add more yaks, his stats like the guy has such infectious energy and people are going to bring up five touchdowns last year I'm. Not trying to hear it because what makes kittles so good is that he affects the game everywhere on the field and it doesn't always show up in the step off -absolutely, and he and for what it's worth eighty five balls for over one thousand yards back to back seasons and I want to defensive guys to just let's just talk about this play. This might have been my favorite play of the entire NFL season. Let's just watch what George kiddle did in a game against the New Orleans Saints Kayla. Let's put that play up there. If we can't. Here we go dominate described what you see right here. I see something frightening and uncomfortable I'm GonNa have to compromise pretty I'm not prepared to back track All the stipple arm don't replay that anymore I won't I might quit. No. Watch again, violent disgusting despicable. Same Yourself. You're you're a linebacker. What are you doing with this guy? What are you doing to try and stop this guy? Look this play this play gets me very angry because in the New England patriots all the things that you go through during the week you know that the San Francisco Forty niners in this particular time of the game, Jimmy Garoppolo is GonNa go to kill he's going to this guy and you don't help them out. You don't jam at the line you don't put two guys on them. You've got your teammates jumping on the sidelines up and down because they know they just lost the game because you didn't go out and. This guy you got to jam you gotTa. Have a D. N. I'd have a out there jam or something you can't just let them run down the field free at angers me to see that. Makes them. Sick I love it. MVP is a quarterback's award if you extend it beyond the quarterbacks last year, we talked about Michael. Thomas we talked about Christian. McCaffrey someone should brought this up because they were basically the best team in the NFC from week one all the way to the end nick and he is by far their most important player. Why are you shaking your head at me? They were the best team because of that defense like let's look at Nick Bosa look at Richard. Sherman season. Yeah you. WanNa talk about every day of a team you talk about the defense because that's what carry them and to be honest. I love kill. He's great. He's the most important player on. That offense, but you know what that offense was for the first seven weeks of the season they were mediocre. They were sixteenth by EPA you know what happened they went and traded for Emmanuel Sanders, a big play receiver, and then they jumped to six for the second having six by efficiency by EPA. So he has a great impact. He deserves more money to these getting but MVP that team deepens team that Haddon nine points the week before they signed Emmanuel, Sanders and then scored fifty one the following week like it's hard for me to say that he's the MVP of the whole team. Now don't give me all these facts I'm not interested in your facts. Arguments hater is a hater. All right. We'll take a break here coming up for as good as Zion Williamson was and is very limited time in the NBA this season he knows he's got a lot of work to do how can he get better go in search of that answer plus a cowboys legend made a comparison between this year's team and a legendary NBA team Steven will weigh in on that and I can't wait. But before we'll do any of that, we'll do this sneaky Hembo. Now the spurs have been eliminated which NBA team has the longest active streak of making the playoffs spoiler alert. It's not the Knicks back in a moment get up on ESPN. Back Get up and let's run the floor around the NBA action of the bubble. Last night the grizzlies clinch a berth in the Western Conference play in game by beating Milwaukee, they got triple doubles from both John Morand, annual balance Shuna so they advanced and they will play Portland in the play in game tomorrow. Meanwhile, the Suns completed what was a magical undefeated run in the bubble they beat the mavs with Portland winning yesterday the sons didn't get into the in game, but they did win eight straight win the season. That's the longest in NBA history by a team that missed the playoffs and maybe something build on and speaking of missing the playoffs. San Antonio record-tying Ron of twenty two consecutive postseason appearances is over the spurs were eliminated from contention for Western Conference play in game this by winning yesterday again, twenty two consecutive years in the playoffs for Gregg Popovich his team and that comes to an end meanwhile today on ESPN regular season wraps up with a tripleheader four eastern Heaton Pacers. Then you've got the clippers and thunder and then the sixers and rockets all three games today on ESPN and the ESPN APP and brings us to sneaky Hembo Kendrick Perkins you're in the spotlight. Here's the question. Now is San Antonio eliminated which team has the longest active streak of making the playoffs. Do you think? I will have to go Boston Celtics Green. Well. That is incorrect. Kendrick the answer is the Houston. Houston have made it eight consecutive seasons and that is current record I. Think we just sprung that on Kendrick in his. New He was answering the question for about fifteen seconds. They're not giving him credit for that one. Meanwhile, Talk About this Kid Zion's rookie season came to an end is the PELICANS will not be participating in the playoffs and with injuries he played in just twenty four games. This season did average twenty two and a half points and six boards. Here's I on what he'll be focusing on this off season. But my coaches. see what I needed to do better from their point of view. You know it's hard to my other Blair development coaches will. A better than everybody did and just working on. My game. You know we're going to give my body to our needs to be. Hendrick what does that mean to you and hear him say Zach Lowe joins us as well. Kendrick when you hear him say he needs to get his body it needs to be what does that mean? What it means that he got going off season green and he got to go on the series I listen Zion six, six, two, hundred, eighty, five to two, hundred, ninety pounds he had to drop at least thirty five or forty pounds in my opinion to able to sustain playing thirty five minutes plus the game. This is the your franchise God and look I played down wall. So I know how those people when those good people come up to you saying. I got this fried gated I got this fried catfish this hard to tell them note, Melissa he got he got he got to work on, and if I'm him, I'm reaching out to a players right now of Lebron James and reaching out for vice you look at a guy like Yokich in Denver? Who dropped tons of weight came back over the pandemic looking. Phenomenal everybody is losing weight because they know that the game is faster and is the pace is faster and he have to be able to drop his way to able to sustain their play as a franchise blew a really important point and Zach with one in the books. Now, what do we say Zion Williamson has place in the League and and his future. I think it's still going to be great but perks right he's got to lose weight I mean it's just it's just too heavy is too big and and you know the Zion debate it's a discussion. Now I still leans ion just because a position big man who can pass like that and get to the basket anytime you want that's like the holy grail NBA players but the health concerns the totally unique body type and what his rookie season has gone like i. mean the long term trajectory is now unclear I agree with Kirk hires chef to Pelicans, have to go in there and make sure they. Know what he's eating for every meal they got to get the fitness regimen, right? Because he's got to come back like PERC said, he's a franchise player. He's got to play thirty, thirty, five minutes a game. It can't be this fifteen minutes twenty minutes twenty five minutes night off like you're you're the guy. Zach let me turn the topic to another superstar and that's Russell Westbrook. He's hurt with the rockets looking to go in and do some damage in these playoffs a strained quad it's not quite clear exactly how much time he'll be out what does this mean for the rockets chances of making a playoff run? Well, deep is like obviously they're gonNA need him to go deep still think they can beat the thunder even if he misses half most of that series, they've been dynamite all year with just hard and on the floor and yeah teams are now good at double harden without guess what now there's shooters everywhere. There's one non shooter on the floor with heart is so they're going to keep bombing threes to me. The worry is the twelve minutes, ten minutes, whatever it is when harden is. On the bench Houston never plays with both of those guys on the bench. How are they going to tread water in those minutes? If they lose those minutes big time Oklahoma City has a chance to win that series but I think they can survive this round or most of it without Russ because hardened is just that good but Oklahoma City for sure has a chance. Yeah. So we mentioned it. It's OK see they're playing perk you played with both harden and Russell on the thunder. To, you think to win this series. was very important to them the win, but it's not gonna be easy grainy especially with rush I had this series going six seven games Houston winning with a healthy Russ and without rush I. Don't know when you look at this Oklahoma City team they're very dangerous. They have a man in your candidate Dennis the WHO's giving you nineteen points a game you have a veteran and Gallo who's giving you twenty a gay young star say Alexander. Is Giving you twenty game and then you have the ultimate leader of a MVP and my eyes and Chris Paul. So you can't take this thunder team lightly they play stingy on the defensive van. So the look the rock has got. The has full without Russell Westbrook that's thunder in the field seed. Absolutely. All right. You guys rest up this weekend because starting next week Monday, the playoffs beginning we're going to go full on into it and I need both of you guys regularly we take on the NBA just make sure you just make sure you bring me on with Zag blow, Guyq show you bring me on with Zach Lowe and listen everyone loves the two of you guys together. We love it. Right Park enjoy enjoys a floodgate or this weekend or whatever. It is talking about what we lost. All right. Take a quick break. We'll come back with Stephen a Smith. He's been talking a lot about companionship. Likely I'm sorry. What did he think of the seahawks releasing a player seeking that? Yes. I'll compose myself and we'll be back in just a moment get up on ESPN. We are back on get up. Let me run you through the basis here and catch up with all the baseball action from yesterday it starts with you darvish how good was he continued his dominance? This season took a no hitter into the seven eleven strikeouts cubs beat the Bruins four to cover thirteen and three this season that is the best record in the majors elsewhere the Tampa Bay rays dominated the red sox seventeen to eight completing a four-game sweep during the series. Tampa. Scored forty two runs most in franchise for history for a four game series. Raves of one six straight now there one game behind the Yankees in a good race in the American League East how about Mookie? Betts? What a day he had the dodgers dismantled the padres eleven in two at bats went four, four, three home runs. Five rb is in that was six career three homerun Games which tied for the most in baseball history with Johnny mize and Sammy. Sosa. And I'm super excited to tell you about this Again if you're not aware, I'm coming back to the radio ESPN radio coast to coast starting Monday every weekday twelve to two eastern time for depending on where you are. You'll hear me I'll be all over it. Max Kellerman, follow me immediately we're both still do our TV shows then go to our radio shows and we'll be followed by the dynamic new team, Shannon Mike golic junior terrific a lot of energy I. Think you have a wonderful time it's our revamped ESPN radio lineup and we hope you will enjoy. Of course, neutral expect better. Question next next. Such bad mood. What do you care? What else do you want? I'm looking to answer questions for the. All right dominate is here and I have a series of hard hitting questions for unique it and the first one I will preface by saying that we were talking yesterday about whether or not Aaron. Rodgers is the most talented quarterback ever to place while we'll ask you. Who is the most gifted thrower of the? That you ever saw. Yeah I mean, there's a lot of obviously we're going to get it through not necessarily great players I'm going Dan, Marino, I'm not going to be a prisoner of the moment. Mahomes though he is exceptional I think what Dan Marino, and this was a bit before my time. So it is going back and watching a little tape to get a full understanding but his accuracy and arms and when he did so that dolphins team when he showed up despite never winning a super bowl, his ability of being a great quarterback from day one through the end of his career with mostly just strictly arm strength and accuracy and not necessarily all the other athleticism athletic athleticism that we see guys like John Elway I think puts Dan Marino. Top of the list I think unquestionably didn't have the athleticism can argue with is throwing the football most important part of it. Quick release. No one could get to that guy he got rid of the ball. So fast that said in your career next question who was the toughest quarterback prepare for? easiest questions you've ever asked me paint many and it's not he didn't have the arm strength. He did have incredible accuracy a hope this isn't begin scored on. Begin. Scoring on. Oh. In, the same game how dare you might, but it wasn't his authored accuracy as much as it was. His knowledge and he would scan the whole field and know what coverage for and because he could find a defensive lineman that would tip off his his position tip off with coverage you're in it felt like you could never really full him the most success I had with him against them with. Lineup, not move and we were out of position for whatever blitz were running or whatever coverage we are running. It didn't matter because they didn't run tricky plays or budget new plays. All all he did was come to light permits force you to show your hand and then change the play to the best play the play to beat you stay kind of stagnant in your position than you are. You're better off because then he wouldn't know what you are doing. And he would have to read while the play was happening, which made it a little bit more difficult but he's still pretty difficult and I don't think I ever beat them without thirteen points. One Time I think in Baltimore, but I never beat him from from Denver to Atlanta to Baltimore a lot of people didn't all right final one and this is changing up the topics. What is one word you would use to describe the last week of college? Football. I. Think it's been revealing for a lot of people I. Think it's put on on Front Street, the things that you and I and everyone else knows about. How important it is to these institutions and how willingly and how? I. Guess Cavalier. They are with the health and safety of the engine of this, which is the players, and it's not just that they make a lot of money we understand that these. Institutions like reliant on municipalities to give them money, and it's a little easier to get money when football team is balling out and when you're popular and I think it also helps you get applications when your football team is bald out and they're popular like football teams. Really influenced. So much of academic process into financial processes, the institutes I think it's been revealing for so many people who may not have understood this before today I. Agree. There's another part of this that I think people are learning about and that is the comparative lack of power and authority that the NC Double A. and it's President Mark Emmer habit I want to play that for you as sort of take this conversation, a little deeper Mark Emmett yesterday made it clear the NC Double A. has no authority to tell the SEC, the ACC big twelve or anyone else for that matter that they can't play college football this fall. This is what he said with regard to his limited power. I get. It's frustrating that some conferences are plane in some art. Right now that's just the way it has to be, and when people say, well, if we just had a czar that come in and say, we're going to make a decision that'll be it. People. History if it's the same thing, people love the concept of czar they hate czars you could not tell the SEC as you mart or any incidentally president you can't play college football. That's correct. We have no authority to do that. Okay so I think a lot of people are probably surprised confused or some combination of both to hear that Heather, what authority does the NC Double A. College, Football? And doesn't have any. It does have any unless you're talking about the F. C. S. that's where they have the authority and that's one of the championships. One of the twenty two NCWA fall championships that will not be played this year because less than fifty percent of teams are going to be participating in sports but look Mark Emmer talked about from the days of the Beyond. For the past hundred years, college football has figured out its own way of determining champion and so all the NC double A. Does is provide champions and then bring down punishment when people do things that are against their rules. So Paul, he just said there it this is the way it has to be, and there's no way to have some sort of college football czar a commissioner if you will the way they have in all professional sports, is he right? He is right in and I think as many times as we have push the idea Greenie of college football czar. Watching this week is an indicator of why we are not going to have a football czar, the five college commissioners of the power five usually meet at a table and work collaboratively they are in charge essentially the College Football playoff. But this week you saw that Fisher between the PAC twelve and the big ten versus the other three, and I don't think if you put those five commissioners in a room. And let them spend the next twenty eight days. They could come up with a leader so. Emmett is right and by the way the reason why? This is because he makes three million dollars a year and he likes his job if he came out yesterday and did what he really wanted to do in my opinion and say college football should not go on in any in any division this fall he probably would have been fired today. So he's like so many other people in this country when it involves cove it, they say what they're supposed to. Say not what they really well, it was. So so let me take it a step farther. If indeed Paul, we have what many people expect some day to happen, which is the power five conferences to break away in totality from the NCWA would in your vision of that, would they still have five separate leaders within it or would that fall under the purview of one person who in theory was in charge? Then somebody would have to be in charge as crazy as that may sound when you compare it to the NC Double A. and Greenie. We're still in the moment right now we're still trying to see whether there'll be a college football season college basketball season. But when this is all over and whenever that is, there is going to be an unbelievable day of reckoning and I think the NCWA as we know it, he's not going to survive Marc Emmers knows that the NCAA basically provides one important event every year and I'm not diminishing baseball and gymnastics it's march madness. Event, and it feeds the beast and if these five can come together when this is over and push forward, I think the. Will be dead and you'll see a superstructure in college athletics and I think it's coming pretty soon. Is that Heather I'm not asking you to speculate on things obviously no one knows what detail. But how would you describe the general sense around the sport that something like that is a real possibility in the foreseeable future? While, certainly in the midst of Pandemic Greenie, I'm not going to rule anything out in terms of long term implications but I'll tell you this everybody has to remember that those power five conference gets conference commissioners the athletic directors they help comprised the NCAA. Part of it people talk about the NC Double A. as if this building in Indianapolis which it is but what makes up the NC double? A. is every single institution of Division One two three that belongs to it. Right when we talk about the Football Oversight Committee we're talking about the NCWA Football Oversight Committee Shane Lyons the Athletic Director at West Virginia is a part of that. All of these people comprise the NCWA's committees so there when you talk about It you're talking about the power five. So it is it realistic for them to break away I mean it's possible. Yes. But even if they were to do that, you still have to have some sort of oversight some sort of compliance and that type of enforcement that nobody likes regardless of where it comes from Dominique, as you sit here and just listen to this whole conversation is one who played the sport, the collegiate and the professional level what are your thoughts. I think you made the point earlier that mark, emmers has has the opportunity right now to speak up and do more than just throw his hands up and say that it's no longer my responsibility. I, can do nothing about this i. think it's something about principal and anyone who's ever had a job understands that you can't always say what you feel or say what you want to say at every moment. So I understand and I sympathize with mark. In that situation but sometimes all of us know that there are certain situations that are just too big for you to sit idly by and throw your hands up and if the medical advisers that we talked about earlier I think it was Dr del Rio is saying that this is the titanic I assumed that he's telling mark the same thing if not more aggressively and if Mark Emerald here's staff from him and his decision to come up and say. My hands are tied. I can do nothing about it, and if it's true, what policy suggesting that it's about preserving his salary that's something that I'd be uncomforter- uncomfortable living and I hope that Marc emery can do some soul searching and figure out if this is something that he feels strongly enough about if the health and safety of his players is something, you feel strongly enough about that. He's going to listen to the medical adviser who says this is the titanic and not allow players to board the titanic for a measly three, million dollars like he's already made plenty of money. I'm sure he's fine. So. Go ahead if this is what you are hearing and this is what you generally believe stand up and put them out there and say, this is not safe. Yeah. That was a direct quote. He said it feels like we're the titanic and arguing over when to tell the band to play guys. Thank you. I'll leave it there for the moment but this obviously is a story we'll continue to cover. Meanwhile, we'll get back to our story of the day in a moment. Is it possible that the last thing in the world you would have expected would derail the championship hopes of a team like the Seattle? seahawks. Wine next you're watching get up ninety s being. We are back on get up and this story. The seahawks waived rookie corner named Kema Severin. After he was caught on video trying to sneak a woman into the team's hotel the NFL network first reported the circumstances of his release noting that the woman was wearing seahawks gear in an attempt to disguise herself as a player. It's a story that we have treated this morning. As, both malaria because it sort of is and serious because it sort of is that too we had some technical difficulties but delighted to be able to Stephen Smith for just a moment here before he gets ready to do I, take whitchurch thirteen minutes. So Steve, taking into account the context that you were talking on I, take the other day and I really enjoyed watching it. About what what Max described as conjugal visits in the NBA's bubble I want your thoughts on this. SEATTLE. Player being released for trying to smuggle a female into the training camp addressed as I see hawks. Player. I think the most important point to point out before we say anything else is that these athletes particularly in the NBA with the bubble, and now in the NFL have been subjected to cruel and unusual punishment. The fact of the matter is is a very, very difficult times that they're living in right now to sit up the into say that they have to refrain. From from the from. Per Se is a huge struggled and we cannot minimize that. However, the Seattle seahawks obviously have made the right decision because you have to set the tone and make sure someone recognizes the seriousness of the situation by engaging in such an act would somebody that hasn't been approved hasn't been tested, etc etc. You could potentially ruin a season because you can contaminate not just yourself but your whole team. So they made the right decision and sending the message but I, think if there was anything that qualifies as a forgivable offensive to some degree assuming nobody's been harmed, there's anything that requires a level of compassion and understanding and forgiveness this would qualify I think it's important to say. I really don't know how to follow that up because it really unusual circumstances me actually finish it because I have to let you go by asking a real question, which is dominic brought this up earlier if the plan is to do exactly what you're talking about the now the NBA is allowing the teams that are staying to have families and other visitors come into the bubble if the plan is to expect that that some of the young players who are not married and all that sort of thing are going to live the way we're talking about for five months if that's just kind of the plant dominic saying that as a plan that has no chance of success what do you think? He's absolutely right I. mean we again cruel and unusual punishment and I said that the weeks now you're talking. I mean there's no way this is going to it's going to happen I promise you that right now i? Mean we just have to be real about this grebe brigands just is very, very important greedy. There is no way I repeat no way that the vast majority forget all forget not even a vast majority not even a minority of the players are going to subscribe to such rules. There's no spending cuts months engaging in celibacy stop it. Stop. It I mean we just have to I. saw on. ESPN MICKEY MOUSE BUT WE HAVE to be real the chances of succeeding. UH, slim to none last time I checked green and you go home every day. So do you dominate your say I see both of y'all smiling every toll model care yesterday I, do you have not seen? Jalen rose frown and five. Okay So. I'm just like we just have to be honest about what there is no chance. No chance that that is going to happen. You cannot subject professional athletes. You'll can't subject men to that kind of restriction. You. Just it's. I think it's fair to say men in N. women like it is natural animals like. Football dominate not obviously it in general to I'm to to say. Right or their natural instinct is going to eat it appropriate to not do it like you're asking me all lot like that is a natural instinct Mike. Yeah You just like Mike I Better get no arguments here whatsoever. When I woke up this morning I would hear Dominic say natural instinct is to eat and procreate. That was just wasn't what I came to work to. Do I take. Yes. I take yesterday I. Say it again today you know what Adam was created. You know something and he walked and talked in the garden of Eden would God. All he had to do was obey the rules who got him no disobeyed. that. We understand we just have to understand and accept Peter Kabul your executive producer promised you. He's in, he's in the Control Room Diane Laugh at. Me and I repeat man is watching this segment right now go to Steven Ain't don't don't know what he's talking about he's wrong day. No Right. That's. Okay. I have confirmation that Pete is laughing I'm being told that in my ear, be I have to let you go eight minutes from I take. Thank you very much. We usually have them on much earlier, but we had technical difficulties getting on the Great Stephen a Smith. Nick. Let me come back to you if I can. Rob Give it just well, I'm flustered I mean I'm throwing by that because I I really don't know nick where to go from there. So let me just turn to you and ask you to steer this in an entirely different direction, your thoughts and no I think. So to be fair everything that's Stephen as said like it makes perfect sense and I told you about eating and procreating like this human stakes but we don't exactly know was she was there for. Like, she could have been a masseuse she might have been never some holistic medicine like he just brought someone in to maybe help him be a better football player assume that his is on improving the football player. So we we should slow down with something that we're making it about him that this was about something more than just being the best that he can be demand. So someone need to pick them up, do yeah. Even I'm not buying that really quick. Only only one way to finish it today very quickly tell the story story of of your rookie very quickly. Okay. So very quickly there was a guy, no Bob Minka. Vich had maybe a female come and see his room and guess what married fourteen years or three children follow your heart follow love you can't help it. It's just the way it is. It seems like an appropriate message to finish up the program today we will take a short time out and let you know that I is coming up next and Steven A. and all of the continued hilarity and they'll talk about the brilliant dame Lillard who has been as good the last week or so as absolutely anyone in a long time, they're coming your way in five minutes right here on ESPN. We've got trouble with a capital T. which rhymes was see which stands for college football. So much has happened. It's been like two years worth of activity listen. What are we doing? There is no leadership to point to that can't agree on what the apple lunch it's ridiculous. Out by saying I apologize for my Tan lines. I got on my face Tabasco practice. Then hit the nail head it's twenty twenty Bro I. Haven't seen Nebraska Anywhere near the National Championship game in about Twenty Years Day Notre Dame baby. Contracts on, the way to get. Up Desmond Howard fired up morning very unusual lighting that seems to exist wherever it is joey that you're sitting. Came out the Hieaux. Didn't come up even even without a football season mystic do love the player yes. Do I want to I five? All He did was wink wink that me. The next time I said. So much fun this week with us here, but I want to finish by insisting we talk about golf which is brought to you by Ziprecruiter and if you love golf avert your eyes at how this match ended yesterday a bizarre moment the US aim round of sixteen. It's Tyler Fauci Guna. Only Pinto they were tied through seventeen holes. Pinto's Catty steps into the bunker touches the same. This touches the same in match. The rule is that the caddy deliberately touch the sand the player loses the whole. He loses on that mistake. Pinto goes home Stra FAUCI wins one up and advances to the quarterfinals I. gotTa Tell You it's my favorite sport. It hurt me to watch that and the the caddy apparently later said that he didn't do it but as you watched the video, they're very clearly did it so. That is a very tough way for guy to lose the round of sixteen of the US amador anyway with that thought I thank you all forget with us all week long and we have a huge weekend ahead and then Monday. I'll be back here and then I've got the radio show starting Monday so we'll have a lot more time to spend together with the fun continues right now I take is next on ESPN.

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"Good morning it is time to get up with the NFL and every team facing indecision. It is never considered before. Will it undo a super bowl you bring we'll explain it three minutes. Then the announcement yesterday was chilling no fall championships in college what does that mean for football and everybody else and then Dak says all the right thing but that doesn't change. The question is this destined to be his last year in big date? We've got a lot of questions that will get you all the answer and we get up with you starting right now a Friday from Bristol I'm Mike Greenberg. This is. GET UP ON ESPN be with you for the next two hours and then I take will come your way k. b. o move over to espn two delighted to have you with us. We will get to all of that football news in just a moment. But let's start with the game of the night performance of the night and everything all wrapped up into one Damian Lillard who has been the MVP of the restart his blazers taking on the nets. Win Portland is in, but they're down seven in the fourth would look at the range Damian Lillard pulling up from thirty five feet he was eight. Of Fourteen from three point range this a few possessions later, another step back another three singlehandedly trying to shoot his team into the playoffs. Now they're down one still down one hundred three lillard dishing Nurkic. Yes. He would score twenty two lasers. Take a one point lead. This is the next possession now, Brooklyn? Carrizo. Avert boys he'd been good to spin the Nice touch sixteen of twenty nine from the floor full avert. Nets up one next blazers possession lillard. Gary. Trent, junior falling away sixteen off the bench for him blazers produce under a minute fifteen to go. Now, Lillard look at the defense look at the hustle from Damian Lillard trying to play his team into the post season coming up from behind the time and the steel and the blazers have the balls. They have a chance to extend the lead and there's this backward May. Cj mccollum finding space yes. twenty-five for mccollum blazers afford. But if that's a question levert once again has the answer plus the foul. He'd make the free throw thirty seven for cameras. Liberte Netzer within one after blazer missed one last chance for the NANCE laverdure the win and it's no good and the blazers hang on they make it to the plan game Portland behind forty two points and twelve assists from Damian Lillard live to play another day. You know it's almost like every game that we've been planned last three four games like our season is on the line. So once you get to the playoffs, honestly the urgency immature is going be there he's a special player and he's a special person and You know the special guy especially, NBA players in history have had that something he has. You know he has a will. Transcends. The team obviously without now is basketball skill but his mental makeup. Been, unbelievable and according to Elias he's the first player ever to end the regular season with three straight forty point games is one hundred, fifty, four points in that stretch by far the most of any player in his last three games of a season, and again, they prove not to be his last three games they'll play Memphis in the play in game tomorrow meanwhile to the NFL and the Seattle seahawks yesterday waived rookie cornerback came a civil rain. After he was caught on video trying to sneak a woman into the team's hotel. The NFL network first reported the circumstances of his release noting that the woman was wearing seahawks here in an attempt to disguise herself as a player. This is a fascinating story, Dominique Foxworth who is trying his best to make me laugh and I will not fall for that Rodney Gingrich Kimberly Martin role here. Look. We talked about this earlier this morning meek I'm trying to make up my mind. If this is a very serious story, we should treat very seriously because of the potential ramifications or if we should acknowledge that it is also at least in some part. Hilarious. I mean, both I guess I'm GonNa leave it to somebody else to talk about the serious nature. There's so many serious things that we can talk about understand how he is risking his team's health and putting potentially the season in jeopardy. That's a real thing I guess. But also isn't he kind of the best cornerback ever like? All the traits of a quarterback he's willing to take risk. He won't be denied. He's creative. He's finding ways to make it work. Nobody wants it more than him. That's what we talk about. who wasn't more than a guy who's willing to talk some lovely young lady it's addressing up like a c hall in order to get into Israel man campus. Stressful. Okay so that that is the angle I was expecting you to take. Let me turn give agency. If he has a more professional attitude towards this circumstance I mean is this if you order the other guys in that team? We we are dealing with like trust here. Right like this. This is. We can't joke around too much about something that is actually series that could derail a season could derail a team could have all of these ramifications. Denying the funny part of this. Robert. How about the serious part of it? Well I mean. Look at this particular. It's different. Nobody's really gone through the things that we're going through right now. So I can't fall the twenty one year old kid you know trying to. Figure things out in this particular moment that they're not used to doing and it's it's never. been this series before. So you know as a football player and literally as a country right now, there's two sides to this virus and it's unfortunate that you know we're dealing with the things that we're dealing with right now. But in this particular moment is serious because there's guys that are opting out to not play football the game that they love because of the fact that this virus could be so detrimental to not only themselves but their families. So yeah, it's it's a pretty serious issue, the things that we're dealing with right now. On the Syria side of things can't really what what, what is the what should we be taking away from this situation where you look at it from every possible angle what should we be thinking about? As we see this story yesterday, Seattle, what does it mean for the League? I mean, here's the problem. There are no full proof plans when you're dealing with human beings. In fact, I had almost like a prophetic conversation with the GM a couple of weeks ago when I asked him about why he decided not to do the bubble scenario with his team and he said because there are no guarantees. He even told me that some guy is GonNa try to sneak out of the team hotel to see his lady or ladies and look we have the opposite a player actually trying to sneak a girl into into their team hotel these things I was shocked by it but a lot of NFL personnel probably weren't because they probably predicted stuff like this was. Going to happen and I'd like to. We will come back and cover the story from a different angle as far as this is a player who was extremely unlikely to make the team. Anyway, how would this be handled? How will it be handled if this circumstance were to present itself with a higher profile player someone who was more integral to the team new give me a quick thought on that and we'll come back to it a little bit later. But if this is an important player because they waive this guy immediately, he was gonna get your kind of the anyway how would this be handled with the more important player? You know the answer that question before you asked him. If the player had value a lot of value. They would absolutely find a way to get him on a team by the way to forgive him and I'm not even sure we would hear this story they might find that video. They'll find that player bring them to an office maybe have a conversation with them and tell them to show up the next morning ready to practice. That's what it boils down to. These guys are are not. That principal they have some principles obviously but the principal stop when it comes to impact how well they, how well their season going to go with impacts their career in their money. Can think of no better way to leave this conversation for the moment then this. People wonder is this the kind of thing that happens in training camp regularly is is this a story that anything like anything you've ever heard of? I mean I think back to a guy that I knew is name was Bob make of it and his rookie season in two thousand six he might have brought someone up a in particular to his hotel and they've been married for fourteen years with three children. So look you can't deny love it's that's just the way it is. It's fate. It's love. It's extremely. Bob Let's heart. Let's hold this thought there for a moment I do want to come back to the story because there's a few other ways to treat it. Let's get to some really genuinely serious business yesterday NC Double A. President Marc Emmers made it clear that his allegation, the NC Double A. has no authority to tell the ACC of the big twelve whether or not they can play football. This fall here is what Emmett had to say regarding fall sports in general. We cannot now at this point have fall NCAA's championships because there's not enough schools participating the board also established water governors also said look if you don't have half of the schools plane a sport, it can happen legitimate championship. So we can't in any division one, a NCAA's championships sport now, which is everything other than F. BS football goes on in the fall. That's an incredibly important distinction that I'm not sure everyone fully understand he basically said there will be no championships decided in the NCW this fall it doesn't apply to football meanwhile this quote yesterday from an Infectious Disease Advisor to the NC named Carlos del Rio he said I feel like the titanic hit the iceberg and we're trying to make decisions of what time we should have the band play we need to focus on what's important what's important right now, we need to control this virus not having fall sports this year and controlling this virus would be to me. The number one priority. So there's a lot to unpack there and here to do what are Paul. Finebaum. And Heather dench are inside insider and we will start with you heather I i. don't know that everyone understands before we get to those quotes, I don't know that everyone understands the distinction that is making their but the NC double a for lack of a better way of putting it has no control or say over what the football program's decide to do. Right. So what he said yesterday doesn't in any way affect the SEC, the big twelve or the ACC. Not immediately greedy but I ask Big Talk Commissioner Bob. Dole's be what if any impact it would have on FBI football and he said that's still under consideration because what people have to remember is that while we're essentially talking about FCS football volleyball men's and women's soccer and cross track cross country if those sports decide not to play then that is an optics issue for football right now, the NC double as. Other sports, you cannot compete for a national title right now they have to decide whether or not. They can compete for a national title in the Spring Shane Lyons at West Virginia's the chair of the football oversight committee. He said there are some FCS football programs that are still trying to play some Non Conference Football Games his team trying to play one of them. So all of those things are still a lot of questions, but again, Mark Amer in the same breath that he said, they should try to play these championships in the spring. Also said, don't forget about this past spring's. Athletes. That got their championships taken away from them. So you're getting a logjam now a couple months from now, and all of these people trying to squeeze everything in. Absolutely it's hard to sort of keep everything straight. But Paul, as you hear the president of the NC Double A. Say, there will be no other championships competed for in the fall and you hear this infectious disease advisor saying I feel like the titanic and we're trying to figure out what time the band needs to play what impact do things like that have in your mind on the decisions regarding football that will ultimately be made. Greedy I think the combination of those two will be significant. It may not be today or tomorrow but I mean I'm I'm sitting here listening to that again and shaking my head in in somewhat amazement even though we all know and we've been talking about this. AD. Nauseam the Mark Emmerick does not have the power but the idea and the optics most importantly of the head of the NC double a really saying you really shouldn't go on and we can't go on because. We don't have enough teams competing and meanwhile you swivel the camera around and there is the big twelve the and the ACC marching along like They're not even hearing the rest of the country talking I. Mean it is singularly stunning moment in the history of college sports what we're watching here, and it's a long way from being over say that not really I mean, we maybe days or weeks away from this being resolved but but it is simply shocking how dysfunctional sport is. Certainly isn't at least any unanimity of thought which I suppose makes it a microcosm of everybody else when it comes to all this guy stayed close by because we have more to deal with on this I. also want to point that for the record I do have a poll question up on my twitter page today, which I think is an interesting one and I've been fascinated by the results so far by the way at ESPN Greenie on twitter if they are able to play for a championship this year who you got Bama Clemson Oklahoma or other cast your vote on my twitter page at ESPN Greenie Rep your program and we'll see what comes back us. Meanwhile, as we continue more from college football were a story programs. Players are not happy with how they're being tested and how they're being handled and you will hear exactly why coming up and then when Dak Prescott spoke this week, he said all the right things but is the current cowboy's quarterback long for Dallas you'll find out why the answer may be known as we continue watching get on ESPN. Back on get up and let's run the floor through some of the other action. The NBA bubble last night, the grizzlies clinched a berth in the play in game they'll play Portland after beating the bucks by thirteen. Thanks to triple double performances from both rookie sensation Josh Miranda, and from the owners Valentina Tuna. So again, it will be the grizzlies and the trailblazers in the plane gain in the West. Meanwhile, the suspect's fell just short their magical undefeated run in the. Bubble continued they beat the Mavericks last night with the Blazers winning two sons didn't get into that play in game. They won eight straight games to win this season. That's the longest streak in NBA history by team that missed the playoffs maybe something for them to build on going forward and Speaking Street San. Antonio's record-tying Ron Twenty. Two consecutive postseason appearances is over the Spurs were eliminated for West Conference playing Gamespot Gregg Popovich however is not lost his sense of humor. His thoughts on that street coming to an end. streaky streak streaky. Toll born the streak ended. Maine's. Total. Fake news lots of guys been telling me the streak has ended. Have Call. Off The street didn't. You didn't it didn't it. Is. You're getting this. Today on ESPN THE NBA regular season wraps up a tripleheader starting four eastern heat pacers getting ready for their first round playoff matchup and the clippers and the thunder, and finally sixers rockets or action coming your way today on espn and on the ESPN. APP. Back to the college where Syracuse football sat out practice yesterday after concerns about playing during the coronavirus pandemic, this is the third time. The team has done this in little more than a week. The team is testing players every other week, but we'll test twice weekly during the season. Now I would mitt as we bring heather ditch back into our conversation here and we've got Paul and rob with us as well. Heather when I read this story yesterday, it didn't seem to me that it could possibly be true testing players every other week at a time when we're talking about these incredibly rigorous protocols making sure everyone is safe at all times how uniform are the testing protocols right now if one program is testing their players every other week Well conference is one thing that they have been trying to work on his uniform testing policies that is extremely difficult to do because of what we're seeing throughout the country in terms of testing availability and turn around time Greenie. It's literally varying campus by campus and at Syracuse, it's a unique situation because it's a private school so they don't have to release publicly they're testing. Numbers and Athletic Director John Wild. Hack. Had said that because of the players asked to, they're going to test them twice during the season. But when you go all the way out to the west coast, you're talking about an entirely different situation, which is a reason they're not playing football in the fall. It's because the testing at each campus varies. So drastically in terms of. The accessibility of it and the turnaround time I woke up to a tweet this morning from the West Coast from Stanford saying that they are going to online courses and they're not welcoming undergraduates onto campus. That's the reason these university presidents are making these decisions about football. It's because they're making those decisions about their campuses and so much of it is based on these testing. So Paul are we getting the sense and there's a similar story involving Florida, state is not similar but it's along the same I'm not going to get to it now because gonNA run out of time but Paul I, mean if these players don't have total faith and confidence in the direction, they're getting from the adults who are in charge here than than what are we? Well, we're nowhere greedy. We're not going to have football without continues I mean the the idea that players at Florida state and Syracuse are calling out the people who are in charge mean the athletic director at Syracuse, the president, the head football coach of the people that parents in trust for their players, their kids safety, and and the young players are saying that's not enough, I? mean. That's how ridiculous this situation is right now, and that's why I think. The ACC is where you need to focus a lot of attention on this is to schools right now and there was a problem at Pittsburgh, is well Greenie that. They can't even get it. Right how are we going to have a season? If they're testing every other week I? Mean that is one of the most incredibly stupid things I've ever heard. And I and I hope more players speak out because it's important to know what's really going on because the adults are not telling the Truth Rob Nicovic of Said you would play through a circumstance like this but I would assume you would have to have total faith and confidence that you were being cared for as best as was as conceivably possible. What do you think of this? Look it's tough to try and figure out what college athletes are thinking right now, their hopes and dreams are to try and play a season to where they can be looked at and go on to the NFL. So you know for to for you to tell eighteen nineteen, twenty year old person that, hey, they're not going to have a football season I think it's upsetting to them and they wanNA play but at the end of the day these. Universities half to not look at their bottom line because we all know that football here is the biggest money maker for all these universities that help float the rest of their athletic programs. So they're trying to put that bottom line in front of the health and safety of the players. I think that is the worst case that they can do and look you have to listen to the doctors and the medical people out there they know the most about this. And Right now, it doesn't look good look if they're gonNA try and play which I. I'm not here to tell them that they should not. Then, then they must move heaven and earth in every conceivable way to make sure that they are putting the safety and health of these players first and foremost otherwise not only is it impossible to play, but it is completely inappropriate. So I'm flabbergasted at some of this and we'll continue to cover it for you. Meanwhile, as we go medical experts at the NC double, A. Capital about playing Jay Bilas has an entirely different concern here he was texting me yesterday he will share those as he joins the conversation next just getting warmed up you're watching. On ESPN. We are back on get up. Let's get up and go through some sports headlines from yesterday the Saint Louis Cardinals still haven't played since July twenty ninth through multiple positive corona virus tests. They were supposed to resume their seasons tonight in Chicago against the white sox that has been pushed back a day. They will play a double header tomorrow afternoon and then spend a bunch of time in Chicago trying to get their season restarted meanwhile Serena and Venus Williams faced off yesterday and it was Serena beating her older sister three, six, three, six, four in a hard hitting back and forth second round match up at the top seed open in Lexington. It was the thirty first meeting of their careers twenty two and a half years after their first and then Lakers star Lebron James Voting rights group has partnered with the dodgers to make dodger stadium polling place with the November general election marking the. First Time a major league baseball team has offered its facility as a voting centre. Those are just some of the headlines around the world of sports as we approach the bottom of the hour just about nine thirty in the east. I Mike Greenberg in Bristol Connecticut this get up with you for the next ninety minutes came on this morning about a half hour ago very busy day with you til eleven eastern time, and then a full hour. I take will come your way and of course, the continuing huge story of the week involving college sports. College football and beyond yesterday, the NC double as chief medical officer, and it's two primary infectious disease advisors said, the nation's focus should be on controlling the pandemic instead of playing Fall Sports with one advisor saying we simply are not there. Now, there was this quote from Carlos del Rio, who was an infectious disease advisor to the NC double light. He said I feel if. We have hit the iceberg and we're trying to make decisions what time we should have the band play we need to focus on what's important right now is we need to control this virus not having fall sports this year and controlling this virus would be to me the number one priority as every heather and Paul back and Jay Bilas joins US here I'll explain it was heather. Who read that quote to us yesterday on the air and about a minute later I got a text from my friend Jay Bilas who who was put off by if at the risk of sort of putting words in your mouth. Jason I'd like to start with you just read that again there it's a quote from yesterday. What was it that that sort of got under your skin there? Well, it wasn't. It wasn't the judgment or the quote by Dr del Rio. It was the fact that the NC Double A. and all the member conferences. All of them have these panel of medical experts and on member institutions campuses. There are the best infectious disease experts, epidemiologists, Corologis, you name it in the world and they're giving advice to the conferences and they're giving advice to the AA office in Indianapolis and Marc Emmers is board. What are they saying? You know we need to know that that is a public trust all these institutions in the AA, beat us over the head all the time with the education stick that we're about education will they need to educate the public on this pandemic and they need to educate the public on their findings and what they are the judgments they're making the medical judgments and what they're telling the respective conferences and what they're telling the NC Double A. and Mark Albert has said repeatedly that the AA doesn't have. Authority over football and authority over the decisions of the conferences as to whether to play they just have authority over the championships that doesn't mean that they don't have influence, and if the NC, double A. is being told by their infectious disease experts that it is irresponsible to play during this pandemic, they need to they need to tell us that and not just us but they need. To. Tell the players that and the players staff coaches they need to know these things to, and there may be reasonable disagreement among medical professionals based upon geography or how the pandemic affecting certain areas of the country myocarditis. There are some that may think that it can be managed as others that think it's irresponsible to play with. This is an issue for elite athletes but we have to. Have that discussion and that has been a profound failure failure of leadership on behalf of the conferences and on behalf of the office in Indianapolis. The office had their help us there because this is something I've been trying to figure out all week and and and far longer than that is it feels as though there is a lack of willingness to share whatever medical information it is they're. Using to make their decisions, the PAC twelve comes out and says what they say the big ten comes out and does what they do and well, we're we're consulting medical advisors, but that's not private information there. No secrets there. There were no hippo violations if they say, this is what our medical advisers are telling us why is it we as the public and the media don't know that? Well it could certainly be more transparency, but I would say that those doctors are certainly sharing everything that they have obviously with the president and the athletic directors. I do WANNA share with you. I, spoke with a power five athletic director yesterday who is in one of those conferences who is continuing to push forward and this is what he told me. He said doctors don't agree they don't the mainstream of public opinion. There's only one answer, but there's multiple answers to the same question. What we're doing may be exactly wrong. It may be right he said, but we feel that. We're comfortable moving along with the information that we have right now I spoke with one of the doctors who was advising the big twelve, Dr Chris Hustler yesterday and he told me I said, why is it safe for the big twelve to play but nobody else and he said that this is such a location variants issue it is not one single pandemic it is impacting different regions. And so their doctors have different information. So that's basically what I've been told is that people are getting this information and interpreting it differently and it also is varying from place to place or they hated that quote we may be getting this entirely wrong. You're talking about the health and potentially in some cases, maybe the lives of eighteen to twenty two year old People Paula we okay with that. I'm not okay. I think it's a sham to hear comments like that greedy and by the way. In. To. The NCW I I don't really agree with him any more than than Jay does, but I don't think there's much to interpret from del Rio's comments. He clearly said it's not safe to play. Otherwise, he would not have used the titanic reference that is crystal clear. I think these conferences are not being transparent The three remaining have have not shared very much I. It's interesting greeting the that the conferences may provide an ID doctor to the three of us or the four of us but I would like see all of them show up and have a transparent news conference is. All in the eye and say, it's okay to play football. All I've heard from commissioners spoken to everyone of the Mike is it's okay to proceed. It's safer on campus. The question isn't whether the college football players are safer on campus. Of course, they are they have medical train the best in the world allegedly. But what about playing football? That's what this is about. This is not about training. This is about having a ten game season eleven game season in the ACC, and I've yet to hear A. One Commissioner tell anyone that it's safe to play college football this fall. Yeah and if they don't want to get into place where they play, that's fine too. But but I think j what we need to hear from someone in a position of authority is we are completely confident that what we are doing is safe for the athlete student athletes who are taking part in it because anything short of that it seems to me Jay should render this a non-issue we shouldn't even be talking about doing it right Well. That's a different issue than what I'm talking about I mean with all due respect to to the people involved here I'm not particularly interested in what coach has to say about safety or what commissioner has to say about safety I'm interested in what the infectious disease experts on these medical panels that they keep touting that they're getting advice from and heathers point is a good one. There can be reasonable medical disagreement. About, some of the effects of Myocarditis, can we go forward geographical differences, but we need to know what those are in order to make informed judgments and the NC double a. and the member institutions, the conferences they can have briefings on this. They have their medical panel there to answer questions and to educate the public most especially their athletes, coaches and the like so that we're not just making declarative statements that we are comfortable that move based on what we've been told moving forward. That's simply not good enough, and when you do have Dr del Rio step out and say. We're on the titanic and we're arguing over what time the band plays. We know how that one came out and that's a pretty big statement and Dr del Rio is on that panel. We need to hear more of that in the data behind it and listen mark all due respect to the office of the presidency. But we hear a lot of declared statements about you know he talked about authoritarian government yesterday. When the czar was brought up as if some of us are asking for Peter, the great to be in charge of a football, and which is an absurd statement on his part but but he can't step up and say our medical advisers are advising against football. I cannot tell from this office, the conferences not to play but I can say it's a bad idea to have influence over it, and if he's being told that and not sharing that with with the public and not sharing that with the players. Than I think that's a profound failure in leadership. That's right. He cannot tell them they can't play, but he certainly can publicly state I. Think it's a terrible idea. It is not safe the the the opinions of the people who are advising us here in Indianapolis are telling us it's not safe. I. I'm not telling should say that if it's not true, but that's he certainly is well within his rights to say that if he wants to heather quickly to finish this topic here now, what I mean, where are we with all of this? You got problems at Syracuse and Florida state and other places, but they continue to push forward what happens next Well David Hale to one of our reporters for ESPN DOT COM spoke with Miami's president and he said that the ACC presidents are nearly unanimous in their desire to continue to push forward to day I. Think the next thing Greenie. Is How does the cancellation of the fall championships impact everything that have domino effect? That's what we need to watch moving forward. All right. We'll leave it there for the moment Jay Bilas always a pleasure my man. Thank you for chiming in. We'll see you soon and we'll take a short break here. We'll come back. We'll go back to the NFL Dak Prescott spoke this week for the first time in a long time he said the right things A will he be a cowboy long-term answer to that question may very well be no. We'll find out why light after that. We are back get up. Let's run the basis through some of your baseball action from yesterday, and we start with Darvish continued his dominance. This season took a no hitter into the seven eleven strikeouts cubs four to over the brewers cubs now thirteen and three best record in major league baseball elsewhere, the Tampa Bay rays dominated the red sox. Let's see them. To, raise their they are they beat the red sox seventeen to eight to complete a four-game sweep during the series? The race scored forty two runs most in franchise history for four game series raise of won six straight overall there. Now, one game behind the Yankees in the Al East meanwhile, Mookie Betts had a game to remember dodgers dismantled the padres eleven to two bets four, four, three homers, five rbi now, six career, three homer games, which is tied for the most in baseball history with Johnny mize and Sammy Sosa. Back through the NFL for the first time since signing his franchise tag that Prescott spoke publicly on Wednesday, addressing. The team's inability to reach a long term deal and he certainly sounded at peace with it. Let me, say it has to be a Dallas Cowboy I've been a fan of this organization and been a fan of this program for for years. No frustration as far as that. Once again, I believe something will get done and with my hopes are believe I'll be a Dallas Cowboy for the rest of my career. So. Attack Prescott. As he always does said exactly what you would want him to say publicly but the Real Question Dominique Rob Niche Kimberly Martin with me here Nikkei again, anyone who watches this show knows what a fan you are. Do you believe him when he says he's just absolutely fine with the way everything has played out. Absolutely not understand why he would be telling the truth in this moment I think that it does not serve him or the cowboys for him to be honest right now and I don't think that frankly we're we're the public media we're fans we do not deserve the truth from him if he doesn't want to give it to us. So I don't see the reason why you should do that now and I think all of us recognize that there are certain situations where honesty is not the best policy where it's better off not to. Tell the truth and that moment it reminds me one of my nephews was applying to college and his essay that had to be turned in a couple of hours from the time when he said. It was trash when I told him. All right. It's pretty good luck to you. It was too late. It was that I can do about it. It served no one well event point for me to be honest with him but it was garbage and he didn't get into school that he wanted to go to Oh, that's town's going to ask you that question could you not have helped him rewrite it in the hours in the waning hours. Hours. ME. ME. Me Melt anyone could do at that moment. It was too late Kimberly. On man is entire life the entire the entire course of his life may have been influenced by that. Okay. I'll kidding. So a week ago. It's terrible. Absolutely terrible analogy to make. But I appreciate your bringing it to the conversation Kimberly let me come to you as you look at this thing from. Assess where they are and watch Jerry said the other day and what to exit? What do you expect to happen? It would not surprise me at all if in a year or two deck is wearing another Jersey and he's standing behind the electron behind the podium saying giving US A. Sneak Peek into what he really felt during the cowboys years like Dominic was saying he's not going to tell us what he really thinks but. I would think that would have to be a little bit frustrated given the fact that he wanted big money he wanted a long term extension he wanted to get paid and what we saw instead where his teammates getting paid. We see guys around me getting money and your owners talking about financial instability and uncertainty due to Kobe. Do. You expect that to dominate. As. The President of this Fan Club do you expect him to be in a different Jersey let let's call it by at least two years from now. I absolutely do I I. There's no precedent for someone franchise quarterback of this caliber and the cortex sticking around and then Rodney. short-term as far as this season is concerned, if everyone has an inkling that the quarterback was supposed to be the leader of the team has an issue with your organization. Does that impact the locker room? Does it impact the team? No. I don't think it impacts the team at all. I honestly there's are kind of an unwritten rule. The NFL don't count other people's money and everyone's focused on trying to go out there and put their best performance on the field. So they can get a new contract and. It's going to affect the cowboys at all I. think that they're going to go out there I think is going to be motivated and I think that is going to play for another team next year that's what I think next year I mean look the bottom line of it is over the next three seasons he's going to make more money than any other player in the NFL he has every reason to be frustrated with the way this has been handled nick, but he's still making thirty one million dollars this year, and he stands to make more than that next season almost no matter how this thing plays out. So He's GonNa wind up winning in this even if you. Win. The war in this thing, even if he loses a battle or two along the way. Yeah. Absolutely. Think that he has all the leverage in this situation. He's GonNa play. Well, this season disagree with rob a little bit is because I know that that rule exists but also we all see the way that the best players are treated in impacts the kind of feeling around the locker room and the culture around Akron. If you see those guys are the very best on your team and do everything right get treated in a way that you don't think is good I don't think that helps for the culture locker room and lastly grainy I, got my man into Maryland amazing calls. To. School in the country. So Greenie I'll have you know I. did my Okay Fair Enough I'm glad you saved it there because that was leaving us all a little bit uncomfortable. All right. Well played. Let me leave it there for just a moment. Let me tell everybody that after this weekend is concerned Meyer world changes and I hope at least two hours a day does too I'm coming back to the radio Monday starting noon eastern time coast to coast. 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WHAT'S RIGHT And according to the fan poll sports, fans are watching and supporting their efforts among the fan poll respondents eight in ten say they have followed protests and demonstrations on racial injustice and police misconduct seventy, one percent support teams, and athletes speaking out on issues of social injustice and racial inequality. And sixty three percent believe athletes can make a difference when addressing social justice issues. But the fan poll respondents are divided on how and where those of us should be expressed. With stark differences along racial lines fifty one percents that athletes should express their social and political views during sporting events a cinnamon echoed by over three fourths of black fans sixty, one percent, of Hispanic fans but less than half of white fades. forty-nine percent Gavin should only express these views on their own time including fifty four percent of whites more than double the percentage of black respondents. He's fans are mixed when it comes to kneeling during the national anthem. Fifty six percent deem inappropriate forty, four percent do not. Support for the man often credited with starting that form of expression, Colin Kaepernick is also divided. Feelings towards Kaepernick appear to be changing thirty seven percent of fans say their feelings have become more positive toward the quarterback. In recent months forty percent remained the same and only nineteen percent have become less positive fifty, four percent of all. Fayez feel the NFL owes Kapernick an apology for how he's been treated over the last several seasons while thirty six percents do not. Dr Smith is Dominique back with us a lot there to react to dominique what what jumped out to you. You heard some of the results of the polling that we did. Well. First of all I think is hugely interesting that we're focusing on that I think that there's it's important to point out that there are. Quite, a few players who are doing more than just demonstrating and you go to Natasha cloud in my more from WNBA retired or not retired stop playing in order to focus on those efforts but win. As it pertains to own field demonstrations I think those are important as ever as we move into a world where everyone kind of creates their own media bubbles where you can Echo Chamber of the things that you believe there are so few places where you can hear opinions and here interests in thoughts from people who disagree with you in sports is one of those places that brings us all together. So I think it means that it's the perfect opportunity to demonstrate his perfect opportunity to open people's eyes and force them to look at things that make them uncomfortable and social change comes from being uncomfortable. Any type of major chains comes from being uncomfortable and I think. Not. I think I know that any progress that we can say that we've had in the history of this country when it pertains to civil rights and social justice athletes are there and athletes are at the forefront in it is it is true now just as it was true back in the days of Paul Robeson. Yeah I. Mean the reality of it is saying you don't want to see this stuff happening during sporting events is the. Same as saying because it's much too hard for me to ignore it if you're going to do that and that's what I would really prefer to do anyway fascinating results and you can see much more about them on ESPN DOT com as we continue the seahawks made a personnel move for the most twenty twenty reason ever. We'll tell you what it was and why teams around sports need to address it immediately that's on the way watch. On ESPN.

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Hour 1: NCAA's Failure to Lead

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Hour 1: NCAA's Failure to Lead

"I take your take on. ESPN radio. ESPN news the ESPN APP Siriusxm Channel You get it everywhere. It's that good. Mike Golic Junior. Today, we'll mckay here with you guys again. You'll be able to check US out fulltime starting August seventeenth four to seven PM Eastern here on ESPN radio. Very excited about that but man I gotTa Peel back the curtain for you guys and we a lot of stuff to get to today we're gonNA talk to heather ditch are espn senior college football writer and reporter all the great information on the latest with the Big Ten the PAC twelve and where college football hangs in the balance. Right now, but as we get ready, we're getting ready to start a show here. The busiest woman in the world walks into radio today. Chennai is just flying off. I was watching you on first hake as we're getting ready for the show. Are you good like you need a minute to breathe? Do you need some water? How are you right now? You know normally I would be like, Oh, I'm I'm like I'm trying to balance I. Love. And I love I take and it's so funny I. Went on there. Trying to defend my my stand. My African Stand Pascal. SIAKA. Because the raptors are obviously over achieving and we're we're sleeping on them and they're just Stephen and maximus ripping on his name Spicy P and I'm like, what's what's wrong with spicy I know unconventional but like I feel like it's an okay name. So I said instead of thinking spicy think of spicy progress because that's all he provides us. Progresses on the basketball court and they're like, China, you just made it worse. You did make it worse like Spicy p pretty good nickname I can rock with spicy progress. I don't know if we know that one. Has a nickname. I was just trying to say it like when you think of spicy P don't think of like how the nicknames but I think about how this guy is literally killing it on the court with his progress. Okay. But I lost that one but it's okay. It's all right. We're going to recover here and I'm excited to be here with you today there we were excited to have you on the NBA Front I. got some questions for you coming up a little bit about what we. saw from the Lakers last night, how concern we should be with the struggles that they had against what seemed like Denver's team on the court for a lot of time there. But I, we gotta get some straight talk and you can cover all your bases with straight talk wireless get the same networks as big carriers only pay up to fifty percent less get the unlimited plan with twenty five gigs of high speed data. Then two G. for just forty five bucks a month only at Walmart savings may vary. See terms and conditions at Straighttalk Dot Com Chennai. We talked so much yesterday about what's going on in the world of college football right now as they try and get their season going to see if that's even possible at this point. But a lot of this gushing yesterday I think whittled down to this and I want to ask you this question before we hear from one of the leaders in SEC Commissioner Greg Sankey do you think based on everything that we've seen heard from the players there outcries and? All this that their leadership has failed that the NC boy and the power five leadership has done right ultimately by the players in this, I would want to originally say, yes, that leadership failed. But at the same time I, don't think they're failing for the wrong reasons. I. Think they're failing for the right reasons meaning they want to save a season they obviously we we we know number one prophets matter and it's not just for these individuals that are in leadership positions in the universities it's also for the. For the athletes I'm trying to correct myself now because it's hard right, you know. But. Also, for the athletes because we're losing a lot of sports because there's not that income coming, that is driven by college football. College. Basketball and that really does help other athletes. So I think their intentions are pure but their process is not so i. think it has failed because there's been an error that we hopefully the past few years could have predicted. Contained in had a better situation you know but we don't have that process and so if if we lose college football at least if it's postponed, it does feel like failure you this is good. I have you here his balance because I tend to unfortunately be kind of cynical about this stuff and maybe question the purity of their desires near you're right. This is always the hardest part for me in acknowledging the situation is I understand that the revenue from football does benefit from so many people at the same time I also look at it and say, well, the potential health and safety risk for this group shouldn't be compromised because of. That and that's something that the players have ended on there but you mentioned leadership and what they're trying to do on this one. Greg Sankey. If you're looking for a college football's are the closest thing to might be that guy their conference commissioner he talked and was on. Good Morning. America, the other day talked about the time line to make their decision here and what's going into that we've been very deliberate in our decision-making. We've not put young people into the helmets and pads for practice. We've been thoughtful about what this entire summer may look like. We have moved the start of our season back to September twenty six three weeks after. The. Last of our campuses returns because we're going to be continually monitoring what happens in our communities at our states. We are timeline is is really based on the advice of bio statistician way back in April said to me listen this is a new virus. We have not been through this before. So the longer you take to make decisions better information, you'll have available to make those decisions and that has been wise counsel and counsel we've heated. Every step along the way. When Greg Sankey says, we've been deliberate. I WanNA, believe him. But at the same time we have heard the growing chorus of player voices start to pop up around this and I thought it was interesting that one of the SEC. Players we've talked so much about Trevor Lawrence Justin fields these big voices and names involved in all of this Chris Owens who's Alabama starting center on their football team tweeted yesterday a long thread in a very worthwhile thread about some of his opinions on these things. He said, he didn't want to have a blanket statement and one of the things that he said there is the fact that. Eighteen to twenty, two year old young men have to call out the leadership in college football's world for guidance at this point. Unreal. Quite frankly, it's deeper than just the safety concerns at this point. So we know players are one monolithic voice but Chennai and all this. I. Feel like if you've got someone that feels strongly enough looking at leadership like that I don't know if I can necessarily say Greg Sankey has operated that way because their players have too many questions. Store at this point, there are a lot of questions and I did sort of I don't want to say cringe at the language just because when you say you're deliberate and you're making decisions. Yeah. Anyone can make decisions and I know these are tough decisions but are those the right decisions and the right decision means you have to take input from the players and the problem is is that they've never had input in this entire process and now you're expecting them to go. Out and perform potentially or even just have a process where you create policies in order to return to play where there's not holistic buying and that's why you see certain conferences putting opt-outs practically universally saying, we can't put ourselves in this position unless you hear us and we are factored into the equation. So yes, making decisions is great. Making tough decisions is great because that shows leadership. But what also shows leadership is also understanding who your constituents are and those are the players. I think that's super important to that. You said holistically because right now we're seeing all these conferences band together and try and make decisions for themselves. The big ten's meetings apparently just discussed the idea of a spring season for the first time according to some of the reporting which seems insane. The PAC twelve got a meeting I, believe at one thirty Eastern today the ACC. Later on this week, the big twelve is supposedly very on the fence and all this like they're all. These thing now their own now this late in the game, and when you say deliberate doing it deliberate is one thing. But you you mentioned what the players voice actually said in this universal was one of the words in there. This is directly from the WE WANNA play letter that Trevor Lawrence in a number of these players put out. One of the second lines is universal mandated health and safety. Procedures and protocol among all conferences. These players have said, yes we want to return to play everyone was holding onto that part. They also said, we WanNa make sure that everyone involved is is protected in this and as all these conferences rely on their own individual doctors and individual medical boards and don't seem to be sharing that information it's hard to say you're being deliberate in the ways that matter. And the hardest thing is like hearing all of this, these are all the right things that the players are asking. They're asking the right questions and a lot of people thought like, Oh, they want these things specifically or no they can't play this season. That's not the case I think what we're witnessing right now through the player speaking out putting out threads or writing for the Players Tribune. Whatever that may be is that they're starting a negotiation process that is exactly what happens when you unionize. Not Saying that there will be like, obviously we we'd hope that there'd be a union because the idea is that a union can actually help you solve these problems in real time and reach the players that leadership don't have relationships to reach but need necessary input from. So this is the beginning of negotiation whether people like it or not, and from this point on I think something needs to be established where you can troubleshoot in real time and the problem is is, where have you been? We you know like we were at this point obviously. Our season. Okay. In the WNBA are season was supposed to tip. Early. May and when we were having these discussions about May, this was in February. This was end of January and so while every sports leagues were trying to decide what was happening, where were you? You know where was the unity not on the players because the players were just doing what they have been conditioned to do in weight and take orders, which is what? We do when we play in college, right but where that's that's the question where was leadership there has been leadership to protect the players through the universities I think with specific you know new rules for students going to squad youngest sister that's going to medical school. She's the WanNa, primarily virtual, and then occasional days going in I. think once every two weeks like the university. is they're trying to create the process for the students to go in and have a safe educational experience, right? Well, these guys are students to, and if on one side they can see that happening another side, you're supposed to be quiet and just sort of wait like that waiting game is what is hurting you and now it's the game and I think that's why. And you've heard so many coaches say it's too early to pull the plug on. This is too early to do this or that we still got time I. I would say this is where leadership has failed in the way that we acknowledge this is difficult and ever changing at the same time I believe that you owed it to the athletes involved here to sort of. Have a better idea of what was going to happen if those, if then clauses that were ready for a lot of these situations to keep them from twisting in the wind and a lot of this, the way that they are now and it's not just the athletes, it's the fans the fans that really what football back I'm one of those fans I'm falling in. Love with football like look I just I'm not playing the season I grew up in. Cypress. Texas suburbs North West. Houston when I used to go out to my school I used to see kids running out a little tiny helmets I could barely walk like at finding lights was my life and I'm just now falling in love with football I was looking forward to this. NFL SEASON I was looking for which we are optimistic for because we have the professional sports league that's advocating on their behalf with negotiations but like I was looking for to college football and so to me I don't think it's just dumb failing the student athletes in this time it's them feeling the fans because fans look if there's anything return to play his shown. So far is that we will take whatever we can get. Okay. We will take bubble basketball with no fans and creativity and noticed that I knew was possible. I knew heading the right direction when he came to the NFL. Because we had our first draft, the WNBA draft, and it was a first draft out there that had to do something really virtually for the sports. and. Then next thing we have the NFL draft and I'm sitting there seeing Roger Goodell with like you know the zoom meeting behind the virtual fans it's like, oh, football's like getting ready they're getting ready and then you hear crickets and if you're a student, you're like if you're an athlete, you're hearing crickets and then the fans the fans deserve better to and I guess that's the thing we all deserve better and we now need. To learn from this experience and keep it pushing forward. So do what you have to do to ensure that whether it's getting postponed or if there's a situation where we're even discussing bubbles for future seasons, start that process now even though it is late and things might be lost in the moment, they should not be lost in the future and I guess the leadership aspect here that makes it tough is that there's so many different. Leaders, there are a lot of cooks in the kitchen and there were even dealing with states and government structures where they're different rules in different protocols, which is why a uniformed leader would help our uniform decisions are uniform leader would be a welcome respite at this point. It's I take your take here on ESPN radio were presented by Progressive Insurance and I'll guess join us on the Shell Pennzoil Performance Line Mike golic junior genego McKay. Here, with you guys today again, you'll be able to check us out four to seven PM eastern starting next week. But starting right now, we're delighted to be joined by our Great Espn College football reporter Heather who joins us now on that Shell Pennzoil Performance Line Heather, how are you doing is the new flies fast and furious right now I feel like I have to ask that question to everyone in college football on TV every second. She's always doing damage control. I'm literally standing here talking to you guys if my old lady landline on one ear and staring at my cell phone with the other hand. It is that kind of couple of days or so take us inside what you're hearing as the latest we know that a great deal of the conferences, the the big ten were meeting in the last couple of days the big twelve is slated to meet later today, where are we at from what we're hearing from the power five heads at this point so we're waiting right now for some sort of a were to come out of the big ten office or view sources however, it might be whatever decision the big ten presidents made today they started meeting ten thirty, this morning I have been told that the two most likely. Either pushing the season back to September twenty six or pushing it all the way back entirely to the spring You know it's like it land somewhere in between as well. But the reason this has pivoted at least from my understanding, not just from the big ten. But from all of the conferences, we saw the mountain west cancel or I should say postponed fall sports as well because of the unknowns surrounding the coronavirus pandemic my question is what? What unknowns change between last week when everyone announced their schedules and today so you know whatever this announcement does come into decisions final I think that that's an important question that needs to be asked heather taking a big step back and you're looking at the decision making happening with each conference. Can you give us a little insight into the characteristics of the conferences? Maybe the big ten why they are pushing in this direction or the SEC or the PAC, twelve just so people understand the background y conferences might be having different conversations individually. Sure because college football is a microcosm of what we're seeing nationally in terms of the pandemic and the way it has impacted different geographical regions and I think the PAC twelve might be the most unique of the power five conferences because of the geographic footprint that it's an and the mountain west share some of that, and I talked to their commissioner Craig Thompson yesterday about that and he was saying look, we have three governors in eight of our states who've said no fans and that plays a role in the president's. Decisions. And so when you're looking at the PAC twelve which you know you can't throw a dart in the state of California not hit. One of their schools must Arizona that is a big deal because they're making their decisions based on the advice of the medical advisory boards that they have partnerships with, and it's just that information is what's influencing these university presidents because remember they have to make decisions for their campuses to as well and if you're in California and you're struggling to acquire tests or the turn around time. In is an accurate enough or isn't fast enough those are all things that are playing into these decisions and that may be why at the end of the day we see the PAC twelve make the most drastic move of any of the power five talking to Heather de Espn. College football report here on I hate your take with my goal junior and today Guo McCain and heather while the players when they came out with their united front, the other night led by Trevor Lawrence ingested fields said that. They were one of their you know asks was for a universal policy when it came to Cova Protocols and health and safety while they're looking that way, it seems the conferences are all holding fast to their own medical boards and all this. So how did the go and I saw the article from March law and others talking about Myocarditis, this word that everyone's getting familiar with now, the heart condition that's linked with covid nineteen how has that affected the decision making recently four a lot of these medical groups. Well. Let me put it this way I texted one power, five commissioner and point blank asked how concerned are you about Myocarditis and the response was very concerned period. So this is absolutely on their radar. Is it the only thing? No absolutely not you know Shane Lyons at West Virginia, he's chair of the Football Oversight Committee and Athletic Director there. He told me this week that they have instituted EKG's for all of their student athletes as part of their process during this and they have West Virginia. University Hospital has a place there that if there's something that they need the flag during one of those ekg's get another test and then they get another test. So he saying why can't we institute a policy where everyone has to get an ekg and he wasn't necessarily comparing Cova to sickle cell but he's saying as we do screen student athletes for sickle cell. So there's another side of it as well. but I certainly, one of the issues that has raised concerns and is absolutely on everyone's radar. Actually, you know I am a Basque. Player and I know of a player that actually just passed away overseas playing card Itis, and so it is something that Israel, that a lot of people fear he's a professional basketball player young obviously super tall. So I, know there's a lot of genetics that go into it as well, but it is a scary thing that people have to deal with. Now what impact heather would moving the season to spring have spring ball something we've always sort of enjoyed and a light hearted manner, but if football season is moving to spring, what can we expect? Well, there are a lot of questions surrounding that too and I actually reached out to one at NFL head coach today to ask him that question and he said that it would definitely affects scouting and the evaluation process if they play in the spring then for us, it would certainly push the draft back. I believe don't know how won't know senior bowl or scouting combine also he also text it to players will opt out of the spring season to get ready for the draft nobody they play. Now that's just the NFL take of it but I mean, there are so many questions regarding athletes eligibility and how that would impact the. college hoops season you know, are we talking about having a college football season while March madness is going on because I asked him out and West Commissioner yesterday okay. You postponed fall sports but basketball starts during the fall too. So what does it mean for that sport and he said well, we making a termination on that yet because we have so much more time until it actually does start so there are just so many other questions but I still the biggest one that everyone keeps going back to is how do we know that anything will be better as far as the pandemic is concerned than it is right the second. Heatherton inch with us here on I hate your take and that is the question that hangs over a lot of that process. But the the question right now they're in the one I keep coming back to his this as we've heard certain schools hinted the idea that if they're conference won't play, they'll find a way to play somewhere else and with a different contests conference. If one of the power five conferences ultimately decides that they're going to postpone their fall season until the spring are the rest or would any group of the rest be able to press on somehow in that way knowing that one in that group is already made that decision. So it's such A. The fact that we're even talking about this just. So how wild this? All is right I. Mean I feel like we're talking about realignment again you remember the crazy. All the crazy conversations but you know I asked Greg Sankey I talked to him this morning the SEC commissioner and I asked him if he had heard Scott Frost comments on abroskin and he said it was brought to his attention late last night. So he had not given that much thought but he seemed to indicate that he didn't think it was that feasible You know it's Legally I'm sure there are issues surrounding nut. I would have to think that that's kind of tough to unravel some of those contracts. But like I said earlier today if Notre Dame is able to compete for an ACC championship this year then who knows? Everything seems to be on the table right now we're gonNA wait for all the news to unfold as these meetings are taking place at CFP Heather on twitter is where you can follow her heather. We always appreciate the time. Thanks so much. ESPN radio is presented by progressive insurance, protecting small businesses with specialized coverages for commercial vehicles more at PROGRESSIVECOMMERCIAL DOT com. Alright well, a lot to process their from heather ditch. She talked to some of the biggest names in sports. But coming up next, we'll hear from one of the biggest names in college football and whether or not. We agree within that players are safer on campus than at home we will get all of that. I'm getting better at time in the beat up feel like maybe it was listening if anyone missed it the end of last segment listening genetic McKay beat box us to break probably the highlight of my radio career so far with each and I. Feel like we're we're starting to really hit our stride is we really are I think we're staying on. Staying in formation staying Gosh you back all as. I appreciate when things go wrong here when the ish hits the fan and all that one and I made sure to over enunciate that one we're good. We got each other's backs that we being Mike Golic Junior, Nagwa Mckay here with you guys on I take your take on ESPN radio and the ESPN APP. You'll hear US starting full-time four to seven Easter Monday through Friday August seventeen starting on. Monday and we're both jacked up for that certainly in a lot of that one. But we figured we'd give everyone a little taste going into this week and today I think we might have been more than we can chew I did not realize that the whole college. Football world was going to four days on end, go this haywire. So feel like we're really jumping into the deep end. We are jumping into the deep end and I thought it was going to be like a nice little warm up. We'll be able to discuss our lives journeys everyone can get to know us nope swerve. We're out here in the deep end where college sports, poof what's going to happen bubbles popping or are they staying good like there's a lot of things to address. But the good thing is these are good problems because we're all trying to get back to sports. So exactly we're trying to get back to sports and thankfully this is an area. Where and this is going to be especially relevant to this conversation because I think what we're looking at now as we talked ditch about all the different meetings going on right now among the college football heads is when you keep zeroing in, you enhance, enhance and focus in on these places and these upper echelon schools. You see a different picture than around the rest of college football I want to read you this quote from Nick Sabin. He was talking to ESPN's crisslow about player safety in all of this since that's what it really boils down to and he was asked do player our players safer on campus than at home and Nick Sabin push back against the Idea players are more risk of contracting the virus of college football played this fall. He said I WANNA play but I wanNA play for the players sake the value that they can create for themselves I know it'll be criticized no matter what I say that I don't care about player safety look players are a lot safer with us than they are running around at home. We have around two percent positive ratio on our team since the fourth of July it's a lot higher than that in society we act like these guys can't get this unless they can't get this unless they play football they can get it anywhere whether at a bar or just hanging out so. I think as we look at this I, don't discount that especially the people close to these situations care a lot about the safety of their players in all of this but they've also been doing this without the other members of campus there in a lot of this and I think we have to factor that into the equation that it's sort of been like a bubble up until now I agree with nick saving in the sense that I do think that. Are Safer on campus just because we know when they're on campus and if they're going to compete, they're not going to have exposure to what they normally would be exposed to whether it's being at home running around with family and friends and having your freedom to do as you choose when you come on campus we know what does like you know it is oh grind, and also with this pandemic, they're going to be real real consequences. If you step out of line normally it's like our I didn't turn this in on time I may have messed up on this house. So now our team has to run extra sprints. No, there's. Going, to be a real penalty if you choose to step outside of what is accepted for sports to return in this case, it's college football. So I understand what he say but I also know that he's at the top of the mountain and not all not all athletics departments or even specifically teams have the resources, of Alabama, and so that's where things get a little bit more difficult when you're negotiating with colleges on how to house them in a safe manner and transport them in the manner that requires money that requires a lot of processes in place. So in theory yes. Because I see happening with my sister in the www. Likely safer just because they have a they get tested once a day and it's literally if there's a false positive, they retested they relocated until that you know it's a safe scenario much safer than the rest of the world. But the thing is we have not had that systemic idea within each university where there's a protocol that we know is going to happen because each university is different in which is why you know the players are asking for these type of things in place so. And the players are looking for universal policy to that point. They're the ones saying we want our counterparts at these universities taking care of because we know at the top twenty, five institutions in college athletics and thankful you and I were be able able to be a part of two very well endowed institutions that have a lot of money to help with these things. You know you're going to be taken care of I thought it was really interesting yesterday you. Talked about you talked about that accountability basically saying there are consequences for your actions and all this Ohio states twitter account posted a video of Jonathan Cooper one of their captains on the football team addressing their team practice saying and he's a fifth year senior. He's a guy he said for me. This is easy. The idea of staying away from parties wearing a mask practicing safe practices associated with this because what we're doing here matters a lot to more handle this. And it matters a lot and he said to our team to our goal of what we want to do and he said so young guys going out here trying to be out of the Club do all these things. He goes you more than just yourself and that's an idea that I think everyone can get behind because in sports were used to operating like that. The problem is everyone else who had a chance to create a safe environment outside of these. College bubbles in these communities where there are hotspots going right now didn't keep that same energy and they're the same people saying, yeah we need college sports to go. You expect it from the players but very few people are willing to hold themselves accountable for that same car. Okay. Okay. Junior. Let's go there. Let's go there and let's be real. Obviously what we heard was the voice of a real leader Trent unmotivated seem to win a championship in this pandemic, right? Now. We need to decide do you think that college kids and college young men and women let me correct myself are going to be disciplined enough to follow every rule on campus because we're seeing situations not from just young guys in the bubble but also. We had lemon pepper situation even though that one is to argue. Food pickup. Apparently. It's a highly acclaimed restaurant. That's that's the hardest part for me to understand. I think if there's a penalty where that person that makes a mistake cannot jeopardize anyone else. But that is a huge system to put in place for people that are just fresh out of high school seventeen, eighteen, eighteen to twenty, one, twenty, two. There are a lot of lot of temptation especially on campus when everyone is there so. I think that's the best point is people forget all of the assumptions that we make about these teams right now and how great it's been forever one are made before the other in some cases twenty or thirty thousand students returned to campus and a lot of these places. But it's also worth noting in this that people have mentioned it's safer for them here rather than going back home none of the credible reporting I've seen his indicated that if there was no fall football season players. would be sent home they would still be able to stay on campus they would still in theory have access to these facilities. If there is any ethics left in the system at all made if the minute they lose their earning potential, you're willing to just cast them back out into the world to not house them or take care of them on campus. You really expose all this for what it is, and so I think based on everything we've heard players would still be on campus. But who knows if they're getting as much testing and all this PA- to your point when you introduce the rest of the students, we still don't know how that mix works. That's why places like Notre Dame are interesting to watch because students came back to campus yesterday dame not automatically in a bubble. I'M NOT GONNA lie I. Am I'm GonNa throw some Shane at University of new. Okay. So what happened was I visit Yukon to visit a Stanford and I flew into South Bend in. The middle of the winter and I. Guess this is where the truth serum comes out I. Knew I wasn't going when I landed because I was like, where am I and so South Penn Notre Dame let's go fighting Irish because guess what they're built for the bubble it's a little bit more isolated rate but when you have a lot of college universities that are the big parts of their big cities that's going to be harder to manage, but I'm sorry for throwing shade the fighting. It's understandable like southend is a little bit remote and all this. But what you brought up to his interesting like south, bend being built for this. So Notre Dame tested all of their students when they returned to campus now though is it not finding and we'll end they had a very low positivity rate which was good but their ability to do so is in part based on the fact that it's a private institution that eighty five, hundred Undergrad. The same thing is possible at state schools state funded schools that have markedly more students coming back to it. I don't know if that's going to be uniform across the board and so even that is another example of the disparity in all of this when you zoom in on individual. Campuses individual conferences and it's going to be interesting towns for each but I think this is where we see the real discipline come out because I think it's hard to imagine that there's going to be perfection any scenario I know we're seeing a lot of negative tests coming out of the NBA and the WNBA but so like we're dealing with thousands of players and so that's going to be a whole different ballgame and the coolest thing about this whole you know blessing in disguise. Eight version of what we're playing. You know what we're doing professionally is now it's like teams have to handle that adversity additionally normally have the adversity of. Entire season dealing with what is it injuries and just you know tough losses and learning your chemistry you go. Now it's like, okay this player was not disciplining. You might be without your quarterback or you might be without running back and that's the that's why this if sports comes back in a way that you know the next fall sports, collegiately people have the opportunity that champion is champion because they persevered in a situation that was unprecedented. Don't forget to listen to ESPN audio at home via your Smart Speaker Espn, audio, at home is brought to you by Mercedes Benz vans drive a Mercedes Benz van and find out how far an extra mile really goes from customization service to financial assistance. Mercedes Benz vans are ready for anything. You mentioned being able to survive some of those different things around this current Sports Environment Lebron. James has talked a lot about that recently. So coming up next in addition to more this college football news, I want to ask you how concerned you are with the Lakers and do we think Kyle Kuzma could actually cross up Jesus. We'll get to that next I eight. You're here on ESPN radio. Is Up. All right. We. Get to slowly like pull ourselves out of the college football deep end right now for a minute to come up for air. Michael. Junior today McKay here with you guys on I. Take Your Take. and. Today, after I got out of college football twitter, which was a hell scape yesterday. Out I I didn't feel like I was GONNA make it out for a while I. I went off a little bit yesterday I had to keep I think I had a key when keeping a real goes wrong moment with twitter yesterday late what happened I? Just you I got a little too upset because I get tired of people. You know I saw yesterday that Ohio state posted its senior captain. I'm scrolling here his senior Captain Jonathan Cooper making the statement of the team about we got to be accountable to each other and we gotta do right so that we can have what we want in this goal for a season and people under it saying this is leadership. This is what we look for and all that. But when we asked the same things of larger society, everyone said comfortable that same energy Oh, everyone is everyone wants to operate out of their own comfort and self interest and only when it comes to sports. So I had to keep it a little too real with some people on that one yesterday. But when I got to pull out of that one day I was watching. The NBA last night and I was watching ended up being a really weird game between the Lakers last night like what did you make this because? I'm watching the Yes. The Lakers pulled out and got to win off a cool shot from cal cruiser that we'll talk about this team has struggled especially offensively since they've gotten into the bubble they've struggled. Making threes, they've struggled finding their games collectively. They've struggled finding their games individually I know we saw that crazy performance from Anthony Davis in the first game back with the restart but then you know it's sort of been here. So here there which to me I'm an optimist I. Think it's good because now he's going to see different looks that could potentially Be, seen in the playoffs. So yeah, like a little adversity now does not hurt Lebron is Lebron. So He's always gonNA handle his business by love. I love most aspects of what we cow. I love how the big shot like he was ready for. He's like my name called I was ready. That was tough like coming off. First of all, that was a misdirection play and then coming off of that nice little hand off two seconds ninety, two point two seconds get your sweat set nothing but net like that was tough but also tough was hearing him invoke. Folks else's name name in the name of. then. All of us that was that was so brand. Kyle Kyle Kuzma invoking a higher power. So as you mentioned, it was a great after timeout play. They're excellent job by Frank Vogel and company coming out with that one. But here was Kyle Kuzma after the game talking about his game winner. Jesus could be in front of me and I'll rise does you Don't really matter me. Overlook play that Kinda ran in practice few times prior to the restart and coach Dave this call caller number. It. OFF It took. Jesus. Three days to be death and you think you're going to beat him in a seven game series. Luck. That's the song we needed because these is coming back with a veterans like, Gee, this is undefeated. Okay. So out why you WANNA take a shot over Jesus. I understand what he was saying Paul Bowl was guarding him. Ball seven two. But like we could even scrap this whole segment with the Lakers in just talk ball ball ball ball is so much fun to watch. Now I know it's basically like genetics, but it's also his skillset combined with those crazy genetics. So I think it was a nice little combination of that shot what he said about it, Bobole the Lakers and then even the virtual going crazy, which was fun to watch. It was made for a great atmosphere on that one I have to t shirt ideas coming off this instead of Jesus walks I think we go Jesus travels on that one in honor of everyone in the NBA and then they have to, we have to get a bowl. So hard t shirt made all this unit deserves it. We want it we need it. We're going to get that done and fix all college football's problems next year on I take your take on ESPN radio.

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Interview with Mitch Brady

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54:11 min | 3 years ago

Interview with Mitch Brady

"This is Mitch Brady and you're listening to Deo show guys welcome back to the ideal show where Hansen entertain is talk about their pets. This episode this episode okay. What's the topic all about how you doing? uh-huh Childhood Mark safe-space. If you wanted to be I want it to be a lot of feeling feeling sometimes. I don't regurgitate them very well. Sometimes you don't share enough. Sometimes you promised comedy like RW Humid never just easy. Kill guys what is going on. Welcome back to the show. Happy Tuesday by the way Are we going to great show for you today we have. Dj Mitch Brady. He's here to tell us what it's like to be. An entertainer in the skies are tables. No that's great. I love the ones onto something founding. He's talked to about his music making process all that and we'll also go through an ideal track of the week and will end it with. What did you earn obviously? Obviously today's episode can be heard on Apple podcast. Google play last F. M. 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Kevin what have you been man. I've been great have you. I'm happy to be back on the microphone. What's your week rundown? What do you got how you been? I've been good. I've actually been better but I'm still good. Good you know what. Why have you been better mental riot? It's a safe space. You said no no I like it. I like the good man I you know what's better. Well let's wrong. I'm I've hit rock bottom like cry myself to sleep every tonight our floor is my safe cry. But no one's going on you got anything to share with the world. The people don't want to. I'm not a good share share. Rory no tom how are you. I'm okay I hit rock bottom to be at the bottom with me. Yeah do you okay. Misery loves company. That's all say no. It's been good I've had a lot to realize this week that I'm like you know it's not if you realize it's not not worth the energy and time to worry about things you can't control people and things you can't control and feelings and we're we're talking about feeling of those feelings that you can't control you know you. If you want to hear are feeling that's only available patrons twenty minutes I will probably break down and cry now only for the patrons though crying is for the Patriots now but you know what I mean you get to that point and I just like sometimes you just gotTa Roll Shit off and just not let it. I always role should off. Not Let it get to you just kind of in a you feel a lot better when you do until you that. It's a lot easier said than done but when you do it feels great excel. Yeah I've found that putting faith and other people you know you get let down like a hundred percent you know and it's just like at what point you know the only one that you can kind of rely as yourself anymore and mom and mom. uh-huh always monzer great yourself but moms are where Yeah Yeah No. I totally agree but on a happier note. Our newsletter went out last month. I one very first one issue Your Pulitzer coming in the mail. Oh I submitted it to Pulitzer Sir Dot Com damn and GonNa take a while you were accepted. Shinzo you made the top one million. It's because I basically just I use the stalled. Sorry what's that what's better word for music. What's on this newsletter? You can find any kind of handsome and famous actually. That's handsome. Call Kevin if you don't know that for a start up now if you want I wrote. Did I proof wrote it. I can see a proud it in one. That's what I did. You prove wrote it. I did not. That's different than proof. Read no yeah. That's like retail. Eat everything I did do you totally. This is good but but you know like you know that rock bottom. We just talked about. I feel like you hit it. Let in the first couple there uh-huh and we'll go fishing. So don't sign up for newsletters Kennedy saying we should start calling this newsletter. Thanks man ask a patron dot com get the newsletter. Every month it comes in your inbox tells you what we're doing this month. You would know that this has Mitch Brady Week if you were a newsletter or Patriot member. You wouldn't be so surprised as you are right now no you. You went would also know overdoing kind of behind the scenes because we do other things how we function. You WanNa know like the gears behind the clock you know like I don't know maybe I. That was a good. You WanNa know how Kevin gets all these awesome guests you know. And you want to know how I edit. I don't know it's it's it's awesome don't you. You are only that's for patrons though that's right. Only prepaid major so sign up sign up for our sub par newsletter all stuff. It's okay like the whole time like this is the most mediocre newsletter. You'll ever read. I'm not saying it's a waste of your time but at least you won't start in your junk Gmail. Are you a middle of the road this letters for you. Good with just a C. C.'s. Get degrees you're good good enough in your life as a lot check this newsletter out. Doubt Can we talk about some handsome news. I got some awesome. Yeah like my rough segues. I'm getting better out of trust me. I do trust you but I want to talk about tax tips tax tax tax act tax tax. Tips for musicians. Kevin your fellow podcast. We stopped last week on the and I want you to get the most out of your tax return this year. That's nice of you and I want our fellow listeners. Get the most out of our tax out of our out of their tax returns this year with the patrons though so I have if so turn this off. If you're not a patron I have some cold. Quick tax tips for musician. Quick tax rates. Say That five times Kohl's I can't say imperfect tax to number one likely. A studio requires monthly expenses. It does you can write that off. Obviously right off What can you write off? Do you now The whole studio soul any kind of rent that you have I think right you can write off the section of your rent If it's in your home and obviously or I guess if you're paying rent Maintenance gotta keep it got those parties you gotta throw in there and got some damage you got to take care of the Internet website fees Yup. Yeah she you don't pay herself right there. Domains Trajan she. Don't pay yourself. No no that comes out of our pocket. Finley's pocket food fund at Domain registration fees. That's important yeah that's that's called fees right slash off. What's it's a monthly hosting fee That's like we get hosted by blueberry and squarespace exactly you can write all that stuff. Scores face website Blueberry pudgy absolutely. We've learned from rough experiences. It's good to have it all in one place at one time isn't it. Yes number two number number two launch countdown number two. That's what I'm doing number two stuff to launch and maintain business Obviously your license and registration in fees to become a business are in this category professional services like lawyers tax adjusters things like counting financial advisers and royalty premiums. You know things like that that you got to sign up for and pay to get money those fees fees to get into the whole royalty royalty thing they usually make you pay premium of some sort or unless you do. Baya live performances Kevin. That's my favorite. Ah D Y Que. Did you know that off tickets. I lost my place transportation fees parking. Even if it's other other people's musical acts did you know that Because it's all about the learning and culture of our environment. I didn't know the extent to that one. So right all that crap. I knew kind of the gray area of that one yet. You can get tickets written off you can get like parking tickets as you can get Dui If you get a dewey that night don't worry about right it up. I'm a podcast or write it off. It's all about the music experience so I take Kohl's tax tips in. It goes so well this year for you. I'm on the defense tonight. I was like. Why are you judging me about this? But no they didn't go out tonight Or last year. Either for that fact I so that was sake some things to remember for next year though that I should probably keep in mind yes and you should too yes Keep every receipt that you have for Your Business in a special folder labeled tax stuff going to say that's probably where my stuff right offs also if you're out of a Home Office like we are YOU'RE GONNA WANNA put your utility bills away kind of still because you can actually write off a percentage of that for what electricity for the office quote on everything everything that comes with that And be ready to receive ten ninety nine forms. What are those? I don't know independent income forms that you will receive from your clients when you do business with them so brought to hang onto those. Yeah throw those in the garbage. I think it's best to hang onto every proof of purchase of anything to not think so but dammit if it isn't the truth now sex but so being an adult says all I got at four cans and let's jump to. What do you mean? Let's jump to the Idaho. I'm ready because that's just stop talking about us. Be about right right this week. The track we bring to you is called to me and it's by the electronic duo named smile from Miami Florida. We'll be right back bliss but I'm into don't listen win see you you would you come. It was good to dealers uh-huh thank you my shoe it is do you come to the only uh-huh impre in closer Louis. Oh Command Gillian tool dealers. The that's the grammy nominated ban smile. SM L. E. and that track there is called to me collect attract. This week is brought to you by monument. Mountain apparel thanks for the sponsorship monument check them out at www sued. Yeah I did. There brought it back like he then told you. MONUMENT MOUNTAIN APPAREL DOT COM Philip. Bring back the nineties when you say. WWW yeah I mean you bring him back a lot of things so you get fifteen percent off. Every purchase you get at monument mountain apparel every urge every purchase. They saw T. shirts and all kinds of stuff so he's check them out. They are the greatest. Data's hub second greatest website on earth. That's true fifteen percent off Promo Code Deo a UI. Oh I have some other funny news wiping. It's funny but it's kind of unfortunate for you. Brace yourself okay go ahead. I'll just have you heard of the new dating site. Wait for it wait. There's another new dating site. It is called yeezy dating. What any guesses? What easy dating is I have? A great great suspicion that it has something to do with ease kind. Yeah that's exactly. Oh it's a brand new dating site named easy dating and it's aimed at all Kanye. US fanatics so it's set to launch. It is set to launch Late March early April and to call again easy easy dating and it is it is here it is quote unquote a dating site for fans of the genius Mr West But warning warning warning Taylor swift fans are banned from this website. And this is a real thing heaven and what you do is it's basically basically will the owner. I don't think you can crater. My friend founder. Says this isn't tender. It's not about Netflix. And Chill and I think Connie fans are a great fit to be together and I'm just trying to bring dreams together. So here's my question her. Here's my answer. Are you going to get on yeezy dating eating dot com year good. Because I already signed you taste it. I'm so excited but in put in your email hasn't launched yet. Okay I put. She ended up in the prerequisite like the prelaunch. Nice lobby. My Excel the day it launched as you will get an email thank God. You're easy date. You're welcome what am I going to do with easy date. Is You talk about like about Kanye West. I mean I don't know that much about him. The last date if you you WanNa follow the dating site on Instagram you. You can't what it's easy dating. What's at easy dot dating a better know what I'm GONNA get into? What kind of girl do you think you'll find on yeezy dating? Not you'll I'll find some stuff hobbies. Some Kim Kardashian dashing chicks God that's the only thing I'm thinking I'm very no. It's a big booty so you're welcome my friend. You are well so much. This is better than the book. Give me cigars like a month of dating. This is great. Man I mean how goes. I'll check in on it next week. I guess I will probably be the only one in our. I know that's the thing it's not location based. Oh Great Sandy woman on there. There's going to be long distance. Yeah that's a factor but you know there's facetime snapchat now go hang out with us so go ahead if you guys want to go on there and find have ends of call on easy dating can save all available super like me please. I've never gotten superlight. Please super like me. I was also board this week. I did some Google sometimes twice in a day now Let's see what you did there. Go ahead and it used to be a family show and it's not anymore more. What do we've had parental explicit advisory? Whatever that's called for ever? I did some googling this week thinking of you know we do a podcast. I wonder how many podcasts are out there and rabbit hole rabble I've found stats. I found this funny Guinness Book of World Record Dear God that I think that we should think about trying to break longest it is. It's the longest times we've intro to show ever just getting it is. It's the long as livestream podcasts. Okay okay audio audio okay. Let me guess what. How many ways do and if we can break this? What we're like? What the have a discussion about it? But which I guess forty two hours. That's low really and is La Ashley I'll tell you one more. You WanNa hand or do you want to discuss Walmart or more. Guess go fifty two. I just added ten more. It's fifty two. Oh it is wow. How'd you kids? Though I knew it or something Guinness Book World Record for the longest live livestream of an audio podcast is fifty two hours. I found this My question to you do my question to you Kevin. Do we go for it Kevin. Seven seriously I'm asking the question you don't ask me logistically science Louis and all that least science -ly Yes. I think there's a real chance that that could be beat. I think we could beat it off. Real good we could beat it. Clean off what was the what was the last time that was broke. Twenty twelve okay. So let's do it is do. That's like six years. Carry the one that is man your math and shit. My I math calculator out. So what do you think let's Let's make a little. Let's talk about this week and if we think we can actually go for it all discuss it next week. I also want to know what the viewer viewer thing too. There's any pull up pros or cons for it or against it. Let us know we're going to pull up. Save fifty to our faith details about logistics. You know like what do you mean. Well our two days. That's more than two people. We're going to probably need some cocoa they're going for that okay and We'll we'll pull up this week on one of our social media's if you guys wanted in on that action that seriously go Kevin Call that seriously doable. About how many things you've done that have been more than fifty two hours more longer than fifty two hours. Yeah usually takes longer the read a book every month. There's video games. I've played long. Go for a world record. There's rather than porn umbrella wars. Yeah no you're watching hours of corn straight. Hey Man Newton net neutrality is coming feelings. Got A lot of catching up to do so Mitch Brady. He is the topic this week. Mitch M. F. Brady that's his middle name. Now comes from well. Oh you didn't like that. I'm it's catching on okay. Dot Com thing. Like the the Internet catching have you heard of this thing called the Internet starting to release Guy John John to stay on the computer dot com after it takes you somewhere else. Yeah have you ever said someone's name they just wanted to put 'em F- in the middle of Dot Com Mitch Brady Mitch Brady M. F.. He was in the studio. Not Call Not facetime skype in the flesh in the studio with us no leg well maybe like tired tired leg. What do you say leg or lack? Wait what do you think you do. I think I say like my leg and I say this is like we're having some leg problems. That's the same word. No it's not no. It's not egging leg. Think I hear different things. Do you like. You're the only one leg you're pointing at your leg. Yup Yeah Yeah and then like leg I have some serious leg going on my leg my leg. You being serious radio ninety percent series getting like I have my lack. No I get it. K- let's we WANNA Mitch Brady more time. Let's introduce Mitch. A trading. Everybody Brady here is his single blur. Oh we're going right into and he's going to be in the flesh with with no legs in the studio right after this They they don't in uh-huh the House faces that I've chosen to drink in writing this. Yeah yeah so what brought you ended up here. Just because of work ended up going undisclosed to Alaska for brief amount of time ended up getting losing my job up there because the company I work for shut down about five months after I started working that've been nice. It would have yeah. The guy wasn't paying to have his inventory Tori so they came. We're taking it all back. You guys are done today. Zero to one hundred day you know you live your life. Yeah exactly so it was. It's like Oh yeah you know there's something kind of weird in the air and then like you know thirty forty minutes after you start working. You need to have your stuff out of here by lunch. They're they're locking the doors. You can stairs and get your paycheck. How much people? Oh God it was like fifteen or twenty of us it was a small island in Alaska. Okay but yeah it was like you gotta get yourself. I'm like I have no aid. Move this six hundred seven hundred pounds of tools in my little. BMW brought this up here on a truck. And that's it's gone so I go. Yeah just take one of the cars off the lot that they haven't taken yet. Well okay. Yeah van like huck. I know my stuff title. Have this van. No just take my stuff. Now hold on my stuff off and then and Continue to look for a job any everywhere and come back the ball out that is insane. I've been here since that's a great story. Gosh yeah I mean not really but like the story itself is amazing. Might the biggest question I have is running through my head is how did you get from that to like DJ and making music of the D.. Jiang thing was on a whim. I found somebody selling a DJ controller just on craigslist like a pre existing interest in really looks cool. I like music the same. All right do you remember what it was or it was a new mark seven two with the FX rack we are the original ns seven with the effects and then upgraded to the seven to later. After that one passed away that's awesome awesome controller kind of mimicked like like the cross between actual turntables and controller actually had moving plateau did and then the nats and stuff like that so he pretty sweet. We bought anything new mark. Sounds legit mine is what's tractor since mainstream. Yeah I mean this. This was five years ago and the controller was really durable. Well Yeah I think it's like sixty pounds or for this metal metal thing took it everywhere and I didn't think I had a case for it. I think it started drug. Drove it down there Lincoln over a love you rock and now I'm rocking a demon MC nine thousand okay see Mex- nine thousand one of the two I kinda the move to it because I ended up getting pioneer controller midway through the two as a backup just to have it and kind of help portable well. It was didn't have powerpoint or anything just directly into the computer so I ended up getting that actually liking it quite a bit didn't really fully want to invest in the pioneer stuff. So when I was down in Salt Lake last year for a showdown they're got to hang out and Guitar Center for you know three or four hours because it was massive and we don't have any guitar centers around here and Yeah when played with a bunch of synthesizers and then moved over to the DJ stuff and like everything was like picked apart like all all the knobs from the pioneers The role in DJ adulated. Just come out and it was a box can play with that one at all but ended up moving around and looking at dion all the buttons were still intact and it looked like it. Hit actually gone through hell from kids. You know touching it and trying to DJ and like everything was still there on my. I tried to pull a button often. Didn't really pull off like that. And then it had like a cross between everything that I loved about the new mark in the pioneer. Kind of just like Ralph Ralph into one so I ended up going with that and it's been a great control of hearts yes yeah. Did you play any gigs. While you're in Salt Lake I I played the set after a big artist from Poland. Steel Awesome Kid got to got got to meet him. His name was Michael and his cousin. Yaacob came over and they were absolutely awesome. Just it's got to hang out with them no way for a couple of a day and a half or so and so got hanging out with the grandparent and Do some crazy shit that that was awesome to that same trip. Yeah same trip and GRANDPA is having a great time and we had. We had a great time down there and then yeah the show we partied. I mean partied. I drink water but partied until Oh probably six in the morning so I got to do a back to back. ACTA back with my Buddy Mike far. Who is the go? Put on the event and mysterious all three of US playing. I think he's so Polish and he wants to Rage Afar. They had like a bottle grey. Goose like two gallons or something something crazy right only only thing you can get in Utah. Alcohol lies and he was like you know me and Mike Far. We're having this nice melodic allotted breakdown music just super good vibes and then you just hear this one hundred seventy eight. PM To start rolling playing this and he'd get out on the dance floor his go wild it was like Oh my God man. They polished off by the end of the course but yeah it was. It was a a really good time. I had a blast and they were kind enough to invite me back in. That's top secret. They haven't announced that yet. So that's coming up. That's the one coming up at the end of this month So I'm really excited. Your Hoffner you played in Salt Lake. Then this'll be the second time gotcha younger. Everybody loved the show to they've been wanting me back. Allegedly so good. Yeah it's good to actually have some music pertaining to the honor now so I can go back and some original okay go back and play Bangers hangers too. Where's where's my bottle? So you just released your new EP. Yup we released that November nineteenth. I believe was the official release date of two thousand seventeen and it did very well. We Rashed the number one on beat port releases for two weeks or so and We it was in Electronica like a man. I'm forgetting it was an electronic house and chill wave I think it was three. Categories categories top three though. So let's let's call. What's the name of the? EP is the Doodoo Debt Pack Project. And where did that come from. That came for me and Shane. Lyons sound just kind of making music trying to decide name and bouncing ideas back and forth breath of each other and the Juju jetpack kind of represented the the Increase in energy in the EP essentially actually starts off very down-tempo trip hoppy and then Kinda goes up into house and electronica music a a little bit like a faster like a jetpack. That's right a lot of energy good energy in the album. So that's awesome. What would you you describe in if you can in a sentence? The overall sound of your EP. A roller toaster of music. I like that. I'm intrigued like that. Because it's it's very their genres are different between almost just every single song. So it's not very it's not a genre limited down back and forth nice so three sixties on this like any over. Didn't have enough as written having didn't have enough tracks maybe. Maybe we'll do wizard wizards LP coming hopefully all okay. It just just asking spoilers. Who who is the I gotta ask you this? Who is the? WHO's the vocals on the song? We just heard tremble so trouble is the actual artist that made. Certainly we picked that project up in a remix contest hosted by indie any Baba which is just a website for you're doing collaborative work on music and it was a contest between. I think there was about six or seven hundred entries. We didn't in place in that but we continued after they announced the winner to develop that song for probably two months three months after the The contents ended and then once we were happy with it and and then ill gates wanted it on an EP. We proceeded forward to ask them for permission to use subtract essentially. What does that entail when you're asking permission to send a boatload of emails you've gotTa was so my label took care care of most of it We told them that we wanted this on the album. You know and it was. The artists relation part was taken care of by the album but essentially negotiate royalties and you negotiate If they want up front payment or anything like that you re compensate after that and figure out what would make him happy for a collaboration. Because obviously we're using half half the songs there's vocal right and you know some of the synthesizers stuff in there were. There's so collaborating with them is essentially a fifty fifty split of Oh revenue from the track but it's essentially getting everybody to come to a happy medium on what what they think. It should be split. Monetary Monetary Wise. Did you have your feedback from them. As far as they love. They love the song they were. They were very willing to work and it didn't take very long to get to a reasonable agreement. It was only like two or three emails back and forth on whether work with it wasn't anything crazy good but I do know that. That song was featured in a series like TV series opening. So I'm not sure what the what the show was but it was. It was on film and stuff like that and that's where that song gained a lot. Traction that's an ex- goal you gotta find it some digging their maybe Google third or fourth page. It'll be mhm we've talked about kind of the I guess the smaller places that you've played and I've done What's the biggest place that you've played and biggest attendance? It's I guess because attendance biggest attendance would have had to been Outside of the festival's because I don't want to include them because you can have have two to three thousand people at a festival like actually have at your stage. It's a completely different thing. So actual shows that happened in a one one night span. I would say both the purgatory parties. That happened in billings were pretty pretty significant. Amount of people came to those and then the Salt Lake Show is very big as well. What's what's the purgatory? So purgatory was put on by our entertainment on their wedding company. Adam Zula guy put on I know you gotta get that wedding money man it does and they say the first year it was. Let's see if I remember. It was me nate. Benfit another local. Dj Out of billings I don't remember his name. It was Aaron trailer. The tallest America in America like like the tall. Yeah he's he's he's awesome if you haven't looked him up look him up. Heating the tallest in America. He has a book out and everything of course. He holds Heald's longest consecutive set on vinyl playback for paid for like thirty seven hours straight for a benefit bit on Christmas. When you're yeah that's awesome? Actually I think I actually have article. So He's in the Guinness Book. Yes as being the tallest. Dj in the longest set. That I don't know about being the tallest Jabe. But in America he was on ninety. Six seven Missoula he was the radio. Dj Jay for almost a decade. I believe and then He's now in Nashville and he's doing a lot of cool stuff with radio. The station's over there and playing playing huge shows over there. It's really cool that's awesome. Yeah he's he's a great guy and then who else do do they play with. Nate benefit. Nick so bad with names he's a Dj out of New York as well came up for it and he absolutely slated as well. We all that it was the first year was just straight. Dj big-name headliner. Anything I mean Erin was the headliner. Essentially he closed out the sets but I think we had close to twenty three hundred people. Roll through damn that event and Yeah no it was it was crazy awesome and then just like a one night thing or was almost like a fest. Okay okay. Halloween Halloween Party feel is. It was on Halloween Church. Yeah what did you dress up as an awesome DJ scholar. That's what I usually get all dressed up fancy and stuff and yeah. It was a ton of fun. That's that's so cool and then the one we did two years ago so that first one was three years ago and then two years ago was the last one. We did Little John was the headliner. Awat little John John I unfortunately this is one of the only times I'd ever blacked out in my life. Oh No yeah that time other than the Reggie time again. Well that that's that's different type of blackout non right. No I had no control troll that one black right. No this. This one was more of A. I really really wanted to drink a lot of awesome wine that my wife had brought back from the store so oh from the store so they have a city Abreu named shelley too. I know right so we better leave back for the next. Oh so they have city brew here right. So in billings they have a city brew with a winery in it or not a winery but a wine store in the front door dude. That that sounds like heaven store jacked wine and coffee. Yes good selection to like really really impressed and she bought a case wine because winter go one hundred percent right and I decided to test tour four bottles board. Yeah so they they some whites but you got. I don't remember the last couple black. It was the last thing the last thing I remember. I just bought a Gopro for this event and I was filming all got footage of it when you blocking so I think so. Yes so it's in. The cloud allows doing a lot of you know videoing of Little John and his set and last thing I remember just being like I I could pick him up you know. He's he's pretty small physical. PICK HIM UP. Oh No you know. I know. I didn't pick him up. No no okay come here buddy right and so I did. Then I blocked I ahead and came back until a little bit but we were crossing like six lanes of traffic on foot like Huffman across mainstreet abilities As you're holding them time and he's like what. WHOA that's that was a lot of fun? That was the first man that was the first year that I had done a full video. Set so I had made video to go along with all of the music and since it was in Halloween in fashion. It was very explicit very explicit. I had to remind the dance floor at least three times that they needed to dance to music and not watch the TV or turn it off. Dance Tornado basically porno behind. You know now that like like ripping stomachs out and all the you know like ask Yup Yup. It was Rob Zombie. Shed crazy. It was good like In yeah did that along to that take you to put together a long time. I would say probably thirty hours worth of actual physical physical work to do all that and I ended up I ended up trying to do it in Abelson which was probably the dumbest thing I could ever because the render times I think were like eighteen. Eighteen twenty hours spent Hafeer live rendering no with video. Yeah like it was stupid. Oh and then I like okay. I'm going to get adobe the and printed the whole thing like less than fifteen minutes. Isn't that ridiculous. Like what what I mean I knew I could do it. Napleton I have that program so it was like I might as well utilize right and yeah once I moved to obey everything just went like way faster because it would render through like forty percent and it would just stop and I'm like oh I can't use that. You know able to good for a select few things run. trollers is really awesome virus. I wish I had it for some things but yeah not good for something does probably now has video capabilities. But don't because the has it doesn't mean he was GonNa ask you any any advice for anybody deejays out there that Wanna get out besides playing video Napleton the networking huge. All about who you. I mean all of my huge breakthroughs an awesome gigs gigs. That I've just stumbled across have been mainly from networking. It's going in supporting if you. If you WANNA have a show barn. I go down to bar nine like like to two times a week and meet the staff you know be friendly get to learn the patrons of Barna be apart be apart of the ecosystem and then and then move into you know trying trying to get employed by that or it goes for anywhere if you want to play Zebra or any of the local bars. it's all about investing yourself into into the cultures of where you WANNA play. And then it's the same for festivals festivals. And you know. WanNa play at those get to know the people that are running it volunteer to help them. They always need help festivals It's a great way to get in the door at least in learn who's you know coordinating the events who to talk like you. Who's WHO and what and they're all awesome people? I mean they're really nice. They're not going to say no to freehill. I mean they're in the business of people they're not gonNA essentially just be complete. Shut off and be. You know the idea that you've probably present you know. They know that they were at that point at one time. You know everybody's a starving artist or wants to be in business for some reason or other so yeah definitely yeah. Avoid the cold cell Gopher Gopher building relationships and I think that's probably the biggest thing that I would recommend people any any aspects of your life really I mean that's how we stuff to at least on some form or fashion at least give them some form of have complementary say. Hey man like you know. We're supposed to network together because I think your stash awesome and you need to hear my stuff That kind of just build a relationship on top again. Sweet friendships are key for sure. What about advice for the high school kid is sitting in his living room right? Now listen to this take advantage at the time that you have in high school all the free time that you have and put it towards something that you're passionate about. If I had gone back can was still in high school. I would have pursued making music a lot more. Yeah I knew it was something you know. I knew from high school that I wanted to either do music Acre something in the car industry. You know one of the two but I tend to just play video games instead. Yes you heard of the car audio industry industry I hear it. I just wanted to do both dreams and light. I'm sold man my life is. I've amounted to everything I wanna on it. You could be the first driving. Dj That's true too. It's true I used to do that when I was doing. Cell Phone Tower Construction. I'd have my controller. Did you really yeah. I'm listening. Keep in charge of music. I mean what are they going to say like. Oh your music taste is bad kidding me. No not I know but listen to this. Yeah Oh and they always loved it and they always love coming out this show these stuff when they were in town and Yeah no job somewhere where you can just like go to at a nine to five job. Maybe I would even say an office job and just like a DJ DJ for them. That would be sweet. Like I don't know I was just. I was looking today. My officers like overhead speakers. I know I don't know where they go. I was asking people why. Why don't we ever put music where they go? We should hook a DJ here like J. Blondes. Just like hanging out in the corner Eh Golf. He's like our. He's like our assistant phones with with with an Air Horn orange. While you're waiting list drop Mitch. Frady taking the idea of show artists spotlight. This week. I did have legs by the way I did. I found out for myself. You guys should go check him out on spotify soundcloud. He's unbeaten two guys Dawson Check him mount. He's good he's hard worker. He's got a lot of determination and it shows through his music. Does I got mad respect for Brady. He's got a lot going on so he may be in in your area coming soon might just be opening. He's a great guy is frigging fun to talk to you pretty to talk to. Yeah I would call a friend. I wouldn't Jordan what you really made love on this microphone so there are some central sound. Was it got weird for me. I'm glad third wheel is that. Oh you got feels pro okay. Two things what did you learn from Mitch Brady. And what did you learn from the episode. I learned learned that you can teach yourself any kind of music genre that you want. You just gotTa get on the Internet and buy whatever instrument you need gotTa want it you got to want on it and put in the time And I also learned that if you really want something you're GonNa have to put in the time and not waste your time doing other things even if it's an hour today less than an hour you know just a little bit every day keeps it going and I think I learned that you should follow him at Mitch Brady. That's Ya. Yeah that's great good girl. Learning also learn that a colas know how to say leg I know in Lague. I don't think your ears are working right over there. I learned check this out. 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MNF Recap & Week 12 Waivers

Fantasy Focus Football

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MNF Recap & Week 12 Waivers

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Matthew berry will be joining us in just a moment. But how epic was last night? He is how epoch last night was so epic. I don't even know. Hello, matthew. Hey, what's I don't? Even have the words to describe epic. Last night was I was trying to think of comparison why look forward to something as much as I was that game, really. Yeah. Moton. But other than that. It was amazing. It was you know, there were so many. I think it was like the whole night to do you see the cause to be in the Coliseum full of people? Lots of first responders that were tree that game and recognized by the Rams organization, which was really nice to see. And then this may it was just this display of offense. And firepower was everything you could have reasonably asked for from these two teams and so much more. If you enjoy football if you enjoy entertainment if you enjoy sports last night with so much to be celebrated. I know the chiefs are disappointed they lost that game last night. And I know that it's not gonna make it an easier for chiefs fans, but if you are not endlessly excited about what this team has to offer now and going forward like Patrick Mahomes has like fifteen years of dominance ahead of him. He was just unbelievable. We're going to do a full recap of that game. And I don't. Don't mean to to just to start on something. And then immediately skip off of it. But we have a really quickly. We had a really cool thing happened recently. We certainly did you have something that I'm just laughing because I just I just want to be clear. So I don't know how to describe this game field says and then talks for two minutes about the game and says I want I don't want him. I don't mean to talk about this move off. And then go quickly, but let me move very quickly. I just I enjoyed the last two and a half minutes. Well. We something plant opened the show, but someone for the shops to work on time. So daniel. Yeah. Now that met you is here. This now. For this for this. As reloading share? So a little while ago. We had someone tweet at us saying that they were listening to the fantasy focus football podcast while fighting through contractions in order to be able to take their mind off of what was going on that was Alexander Olson, she was listening to us while she was going through literally having her child. So we just want to one give a big shout out again to Alexander for that. And she has since had a baby her name is so FIA sofi, which is fantastic love that name, by the way. And I think that you know, personally, I came to you as and said, what do you think about putting Alexandra and so- FIA in the woman's league for twenty nine thousand nine youngest women's leak in the history and the history it'll be the first fantasy league this FIA is ever a part of I think naturally the team name has got to be Sophie drafting enough to be clear, by the way last night. Hey homes and Chris Connelly plus every other relevant chiefs in ram player from last night. He's a salary cap. She's smart. She's she's quite. The she sharp. I love it absolutely women's league, Alexandra insa FIA. You guys are good for that. All right. So Alexandra and so fear. What laid on the board Senator first entrant field for twenty nineteen for the women's league. I believe that it is we have a couple of man's lead. That are in there. But that is the first one I mean, not including obviously residents to find a bell. Correct. The first guest who's in there for the for the man's league. Boy, Matthew, I don't have an answer for you right now. They're all in an E mail in my outlook and tastic. Awesome. Well, anyway, we're very excited. So yes. And for other people saying like, hey, how why didn't know that you know, interests were being accepted or anything like that? Absolutely. If you're pumping out a baby this goes for men or women if you're pumping out a baby and listening to the six zero it's pretty much a fast pass. Right. You're in. I don't know if fast pass, let's ask Alexandra just how fast I'm not saying that process is fast. I'm just saying once he goes through that. Once you bring a listener into the world, which is what I believe she's done here. Once you bring a listener into the world to the podcast, I will say this. I think it's actually we should just we should just unveil a curtain and say that's the entire process from beginning to end if you're listening to the fantasy focus football podcast, it's a fast past whether it's the creation of said child. Oh, yeah. Or have an actual delivering. Yeah. I I certainly don't want document you send it to hat. Matthew berry team onto it. You can send it to me. I'll look at it. What do I care? Oh. See news from the national. Also, I want to give a quick birthday shout out to two people one to Joe cook. Who was always in our Twitter chat. Happy birthday. Jo jody. We're here for always being in our Twitter. Absolutely. And also to our our producer. Luna, Johnny Bristol ahead. A three day recently. We want to give a shout out did. And unfortunately, we did not get to it yesterday. Because I mean, we just don't hustle. So we're more happy birthday yesterday. Luna. Yeah. Say weaken out. We're stretching out where was your birthday. We didn't want him to weaken his like, right? Jared. Davis birthday of middle linebacker the lions on Friday. And then it was my birthday on Saturday. Right. And then it was Luna's birthday on Monday and Jo Cook's birthday today. So they go four in a row all the big four right there. A secret squirrel this one. I posted something on on on Twitter and Instagram, wishing you happy birthday. I don't know. If you've got a chance to see that. I did see that. Yes. I was just curious. What's to find infield? Did for your birthday. They sent me very nice personalized text messages as well. As monogrammed bathrobes interesting. I don't believe any of that. Put a lot past us. Yeah. The text messages. What what what are what are Daniels initials on his on his bathrobe believe it or not Matthew? It's the easiest of initials ever Di d d this is true. This is factually Craigslist didn't get that one. I didn't get that one. You want to turn to like. Wanted to see if they knew what does he if they knew and I picked you over to fail the test. Oh, yeah. I knew Princeton would get it. Yeah. So anyway, let's get to that football game. It was tremendous. And now that we are at full voltron here on these podcasts we can discuss the game. Well, we actually have everybody here, which is good. So let's talk about that. Rams. Fifty four fifty one victory over the Kansas City Chiefs. There is so much more to get into them. We could probably get into this podcast alone. But just stars everywhere. Jared Goff thirty five point one points. Patrick, Mahomes, thirty five point nine points on the ram side. Gerald Everett was a star. Josh Reynolds was the star Brandon coast. Robert woods were good as well. Actually kind of quiet Todd Gurley game. So but I'll give Todd Gurley a past. I know Matthew tweeted this last night like give Todd girl the pass if you're disappointed with only twelve point four fantasy points. You're not allowed to complain about time. You are not allowed to do that fifty one now not ever, right? Jared Goff accounts for four total touchdowns. But Josh Reynolds and Joan ever to the two storylines coming out of this game that might have to act upon going forward. The Rams go on a buy this week. Josh Reynolds was thrust into the Cooper Cup role. And we talk about this idea often that you know, you cannot have a three wide receivers that can sustain success in most offenses, the Rams are part of that exception. They're part of that, you know, Rams and early on this season the lions and maybe a couple of other offenses this year. But the Rams are the best and Josh Reynolds when he returns from buying week thirteen might be like a top thirty wide receiver play going forward after six catches for eighty yards and a touchdown last night. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I thought he I thought he played well, and so you know, we talked about Reynolds a little bit here. And so while he'd been a little bit quiet during the original Cooper Cup absence. He did have the one big game the two touchdown game. Here look at it takes a little while for an offense to sort of find itself in Cup. Of course, was always the slot, guy and woods was outside. Basically now Reynolds has moved outside, and they're using Robert woods in the slot more. Obviously with cooks on the other side cooks was banged up in this game. Look, I don't know that you expect your golf to throw the ball forty nine times and throw for four hundred thirteen yards and four touchdowns and every single game. You don't expect that having said that he's on the field playing a significant amount of snaps will be for the rest of the season. I know they like them they're quite a bit. And I know that before they traded for Brandin cooks this past off season. I was talking to members of the of the front office. They're asking them about Josh Reynolds. Hey, guys, if you lose Sammy Watkins, this was this was before Watkinson had left the. Team. They weren't sure where they traded for Brandin cooks. Right. Exactly. So they weren't sure what their wide receiver depth. They were hoping to keep a Watkins was a free agent last year that ended up not happening. But I was like hey of Watkins ends up leaving. What are you guys thinking of the position that like we have a lot of confidence in? Josh we actually think he can take the step up. They ended up being able to get Brandin cooks. But I don't think this is a fluke again. I I don't know that you see these kind of games from him and Brennan cooks left this game. He was in and out of this game a little bit here. But I do think Reynolds is much more viable than not. If you're on the field in a Rams offense in Sean McVay offense. Good things can happen. Eight targets last night. Six catches. He actually nearly had a second touchdown. Like, it was you know, an inch of his left foot that didn't quite. Bounds. Didn't quite get there. I mean, how how much are we talking about? Josh Reynolds this morning if he goes seven for eighty five and two touchdown, right? Gerald Everett hasn't protect same Maggie from the white way Gerald efforts also piqued your interest last night. Matthew three catches forty nine yards and two touchdowns. Just four targets and tell her Hegde also big part of that offense last night. But you think ever it might be something I actually don't I mean I wanted to bring them up specifically because to dismiss them because I think people see the two touchdowns and three forty nine. Oh is. But I think your your point about four targets is correct. So in in our celebrity league in our podcast, celebrity guy was playing miles teller and I needed. So gronk is my titan league. And gronk was on a bye. And it's been brutal all year too. But but I needed a tight end. And so it's a fourteen team league. You know, the warriors picked thin. So I had Gerald Everett was my was my tight end. So I'm watching this watching the game. But I'm watching that specifically closely higby plays a lot more snaps, and I knew coming into the game he had, but I thought Everett might have a chance, and I know they used. Everett in red zone packages. He got one end zone looked. So the four targets. They're got one end zone. Look, he got another one. And then he ended up he ended up catching the touchdown. But he caught that touch on a third-down play where they you know, he wasn't even in the game on first and second down if they convert on first and second down he doesn't get that. Touchdown. He gets the one long play for the second touchdown later. But again playing less snaps than higby not running a tunnel routes in this one great game. But you know, I don't know that you see the ram score fifty four every week. So I think this is he is a touchdown dependent tied into. So I just want to anyone that was thinking like, Ooh, I found something here Gerald and his amazing touchdown lesson tote tap toe tapping the sidelines. Eight talented player field goes if he goes out of bounds. You're like oh three for thirty two. Is like, oh, yeah. No big deal. Right. Right. I mean, look he did get it. Like, I said the first target wasn't endzone. Look that the golf just under through through sort of out his feet. But yeah, just you know in a game. Game in which Jared Goff through forty nine times. Only four of them went to Gerald Everett. And so I don't know that you can count on the touchdowns. All the, you know, we listen, he's he's out a nice couple of games here on a by this week. So just maybe someone to keep in the back of your nine, but not somebody. I'm going to rush out and pick up. I just want to give quick shot out to murder for dummies Mike of the man's league. He's been Furling me all week long on Twitter because I was down fifty point four points coming out of this Monday night football game. And I had Patrick Mahomes and jailed Everett and I beat him by four points. Out somebody out. Hang on Sunday morning on fantasy football. Now. We were talking about this game. And I was like I can't wait to see all the people that need a Monday night miracle. Twelve months, and we got so many people coming back from fifty sixty seventy points down in part because of the brilliance of Patrick Mahomes who I get it. He had four five turnovers last night. But can you five turnovers and the at thirty five point nine fantasy points. I would venture to guess that's gotta be if not the most points ever by a quarterback that had five turnovers. It's right there in the discussion. He was just remarkable last night six touchdowns. He was so good last night. I couldn't help a tweet last night. I don't care these on by wet next week. I am starting packing homes, and we twelve merely out of respect he has been that remarkable of a player for the chiefs this year four hundred and seventy eight yards six touchdowns. And it felt like every time I looked up tyreek keel was going was running right past Sam shields or anybody else ram semi fast. Ten to fifteen the nickname. Touchdown. Unbelievable. Travis. Kelsey wouldn't nuts? Ten for one twenty seven and a touch to Chris Conley at seven for seventy four and two touchdowns in large parts to. Find you because Sammy Watkins was a virtual non-factor right tweeted that he was active before the game because he was listed as active. We tried to tell you last week that he would be a risky fantasy start because he obviously missed the last game. And he came in not practicing at the end of the week had one limited practice in two consecutive did not practice. They allowed him to give it a go. I guess it warm ups they felt like it would be. Okay. But clearly he wasn't right. I if you saw him at the beginning kind of limped off the field, and then you really didn't see him anymore after that. Joe Tessa to our said on the thing. It was the second chiefs offensive play. They threw a wide receiver screen to send me walk ins and chill. Tests said let's I'm st-. I'm I don't know if you stunned, but very surprised that Sammy Watkins was playing bass off what they saw during pre warmups that was in the second play of the game not like in the fourth quarter when we hadn't seen him. That was so it was all over this. Catch for four yards. I think it was obviously, look I get it. Maybe they wanted to let him be involved because hey here he was from the Rams to the chiefs was important for him to try and be out there. But I don't think he was really ever factored that much into their game plan because I think they planned they would likely not have him available late in the game. Tyreek hill made a catch that I'm trying to figure out the best way to describe it. But basically over his shoulder he was leaning back this way, it was a high Mahomes through in high throw it high. So we ended it sort of twist his bottle body kind of in the opposite direction that he was going grabs it by his fingertips come down at offender comes hits the ball. He manages to hang on. He spins around and gets two feet down. It was whatever maybe it was like a twenty five yard play or something like that you pirouetted. It was a, but it was so it was this one reception for twenty five yards. But it was such an unbelievable. Display of lettuce ZIM and skill from tyreek hill, and it was one of those things where you know, a lot of people even coming into this year field said about tyreek hill this guy. He's he's fast guy. Big plays. Big play dependent believe a certain defensive back called him a kick return specialist. Yeah. Yes. That ad. Yeah. I mean, so I mean, there were a lot of people sort of doubted tyreek hill is anything other than yes. As a kick return specialist as a fast guy, like I just don't, you know, one route throw it deep and hope he catches up to it kind of thing. And I have to tell you. I mean, not the tyreek hill needs me to you know, wax, eloquently about his brilliance, but this is complete a wide receiver is there. I mean like that that one play I thought encapsulated because that had nothing to do with speed that had everything to do with with body control and route running and on field awareness and just amazing. It is worth noting that since week six no player has more receiving touchdowns than tyreek hill and on a per game basis. He scoring twenty three point two five fantasy points for game. No one in the NFL is better on a points per game basis. Not atom feeling not Antonio Brown. Not Michael Thomas, not Julio tie. Hill. There's plenty of other receivers might get ten receptions in the game. But to go over two hundred yards on the ten receptions tells you something about the distance that he can covers. Well, he was awesome. That game was awesome. I think we're all better off for having had that game in our fun. It was fun. I was like I heard my I think my favorite was. I saw tweet. I don't know if it was. I can't remember who is from if you liked it. It was for me. And now it was me. But it was somebody who I don't know if it was kazarian somebody who covers the gambler. But they basically say that the sports books were like, yeah, we got hammered. Well, I thought we were funny that we're like we picked forty five forty one. We would completely under sold them on that hundred percent. And literally had they set the over under at one hundred. Yeah, you could've taken it over and one ridiculous. When you just think about that. As we often talk about like, we go through the over unders we'll do this tomorrow as well. We always say, wow, this is a really high over under at fifty-five highest over under the board at fifty seven like I think this game came into the week as the highest over under and NFL history at sixty five I think a sixty four is a final order the highest ever. Yeah. And they've sixty four and they were like we were way off before the Rams the Rams were touching on a field goal away from getting their the back and look at their formulas of how they set those again, I looked just I just I tweeted out the drive by Dr twice last night. Just like just. It'll take me two seconds here. Touchdown. Punt touchdown touchdown field goal. Fumble. Touchdown. Punt fumble return for touchdown. Touchdown and to the half. Fumbled. On a Nicole. Intersection for punt. Punt touchdown touchdown. Touchdown. Punt. Punt touchdown touchdown interception. Punt interception. Kneel-down believable now that was fast. And it was a lot of information there. But one of the most exhilarating games we'll ever see and well done, and I wanted to wake up and watch it. I I wish I had recorded that game. So I could watch it again this morning and watch it anytime, I need a football fix. You know, what's interesting a real quick last thing on this one was if there was for all the who in awe shocking moments of this particular game. Yeah. To me, the most shocking thing is that in a game that was fifty four fifty one. What one the game was defense. I mean, that's what's amazing. Like we sit here and joke about two of the best offenses in the history of the game. And to defense that have certainly struggle. And underperform this here for various reasons, and yet Rams were actually the third highest fantasy defense of the week which was shocking because I think a lot of people bench them thinking like, I don't want negative points. We know there's gonna be a ton of point scored which they were but who expected to defensive touchdowns there. And you know and the chiefs actually were I believe tied his hands touchdown to. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. So they they weren't saying there there were some defensive highlights in that get obviously was all right? All right. I'm just saying stop all the haters. Yeah. There there were some defensive and some nice defensive performances from some, you know, different different members of each on east side about a hundred percent. I mean, and listen, that's how the Rams one defense towards then. I mean to picks from jer Patrick to picks from Patrick Mahomes off of Patrick Mahomes. I should say in the final I think three minutes. Right. Yep. It was a it was two two interceptions or was it too. Or was it? Yeah. Peter's got one the one they they took it back. Exactly. So it was I mean, it was really remarkable. It was brilliant. I can't wait for the thirty for thirty. I think my I think my favorite was all the like, hey, Jeff Fisher. There were a couple of Jeff Fisher shy. They were a couple of Campbell's quarterback is thriving. And do you remember it's funny because I think we have all this recency bias. But if you go back in time and think of people wondering if Jared Goff could make it in this league. I mean, and he's like. Jared Goff bust footer search last night. Did you? Did you? It happens. You know, like people like people have no hope of make quick proclamations. Well, and by the way, so all the Jarod Goff such a bust. Brutal off like that. That's why I'm so why don't like it. When people are just sitting here dumping on Nathan Peterman. Well, I don't know what Nathan Peterman NFL career is going to wind up being. Maybe this is it maybe he never gets another shot. But so many people were just so quick to like talk about him as the worst NFL quarterback Arron. I'm like man, you've got no idea. Like, anyway, just I think the bills the bills never put them in a position. So we and until a lot of these same conversations were happening about Jared Goff. Remember, I remember when Patrick Mahomes was dropped from they traded up in the first round to draft. Patrick wombs people were curious about that. There were some people that call them a system quarterback at Texas Tech. You remember nights fair? He's only thirty seven touchdown passes. Tell me don't you. Remember trust me? I the way I know we gotta get off this game at some point. But that was as much fun to watch. It was like the young Sean McVeigh, and like the older wise. Andy Reid mentored. It was such a fun chess match in terms of how they game plan and how they were reacting to these so fun. All right one last thing on this game. And because we sort of quickly went over it. But I'm just still finding. I'm just curious. What did you see from Todd Gurley in this game? Do you think it was just a matter of like they didn't use them that much or you think there's a little bit of fatigue felt like they fully we saw more Malcolm Brown in this game that we're used to talking about that a little bit that it just he wasn't involved. And when he was he didn't look Dodd girly ask. And if he was tired, wouldn't you be like, of course, he's tired and. And they're and they're by coming so late like at least put it this way. The by for this team could not come in a better time to your question. I have no official word on going on with him. I. You know? I don't know if it's just what we saw are just maybe because he wasn't involved early never picked up. I don't know. But I I would be willing to wager that after they have this nice by in week twelve you're going to see a very sharp looking at allows us field. Those just going to say as we sort of pivot to the waiver wire haired allows a little bit. Yeah. Okay. I've got some news first. Okay. We'll get to that in a second. But I'll I'll merely just say this, and then we'll get to the we're going to get to the waiver wire later coming up in the show. But I think that this is a time with teams on a by here in week twelve is you had to waiver wire tonight. I just think it's worth noting. If you haven't already like handcuff handcuff. Yeah. Malcolm Brown Spencer ware. Chase edmunds. Like, there's a handful of guys that I rod Smith that. I think are worth raw string has now passed the bison we're heading towards the playoffs. I'm actually going to use. I've already Verdy because we're trying to get ahead for the holiday already put together the top of the week thirteen waiver wire calm. The basically explains like biser. And you may not have that luxury. If you have a couple of chiefs Aram just we can need to fill in for. But I'm gonna do the like I'll take the top ten or eight running backs and fantasy this year and identify like if I had to choose a player behind them. Here is my selection because some will be obvious and some will be less obvious. But still it's good information. Have a completely agree with you on that speaking of running backs that you might need to handcuff right now, the answer is you need one. In Detroit's to find you the lions play in forty eight and a half hours nine hours to be specific actually carry on Johnson may not be available. I don't think he will be. But of course, you know, lions could tell you right now that he's ruled out he did not practice yesterday, Adam Schefter reporting that based on the I hadn't has left knee. We saw him leave golden locker room last week's game that he will not need surgery. But it's something that they're considering we tweak. So when you a week to week, and you know, you have a game in a short week for days later, you're not expecting kerryon Johnson. So you got consider you at the Detroit Lions, but L Marvin Jones without kerryon Johnson. There's going be some substitute. In there. It's going to we had this conversation yesterday. And like I put the Riddick on the waiver wire is my favorite lions running back out of the week legare blunt made it as well, I was like I'm putting him on your own because I feel like I have to not because I really want to get. I would I would think think Zack center gets more involved as a running back. There's definitely some chatter in Detroit that they expect that to happen, especially because they were looking at all. Weeks. That's how I just want to say. I just wanna say Zach Zander is the general effort of the Detroit Lions right now. He's that sneaky play that. You're not thinking is going to do anything. But you know, what he could actually end up getting you a handful of if you are so desperate that. You're like I need the biggest of big Dr through. I would say is maybe the real point here. Maybe the real play room of the real point here is that no lions running back. I would not be relying on any lions running back helped me win a week. Theoretic is my number runs. But because I yeah. I mean to me to me, I mean, I think to your point Zack center. Sure, if you want to grab someone if you're desperate. Can't imagine starting him right until you see seal. Then. Right. So so I actually like theoretic I was a top thirty play this week. You think about you know, since he came back. Eighteen catches them three games. Six for sixty the last time he faced these bears and previously secret squirrel can speak to this too. But before getting carry on Johnson, the lions would always struggle. The run the ball for years. They've struggled to run the ball. Ball. And you know, the at high hopes Ramiro Abdul it never ended up working out for various reasons. And so for a lot of time there run game was innocence short passes to THEO Riddick. Like that was what they considered their running game. And so against a bears defense that I think will be able to get pressure on Matthew staff, or do you think probably know Marvin Jones in this one as well rights to find you? So you think no Marvin Jones, no, golden Tate, obviously. So it's Kenny golladay not to be able to really run the ball that effectively. I mean, I'll respect like Michael Robertson TJ Jones, and Bruce Ellington, but I mean like, I just think you could see a especially given the pressure that the the bears will bring against a choice. I just a ton of dump offs here to the Riddick. So I think he is a a sneaky PR play. My love hate list. My love hate will come out. Tomorrow comes out early for the holidays and theoretic is and others receiving votes. Just a heads up little hint there you have it Jimmy Graham broke his personally define you. But he might not miss time. How does that work? It works because you're Jimmy Graham, you're gonna try and play through pain. And so I'm assuming non-displaced fracture. He doesn't have to have something right away. But whatever the case may be broke his thumb last Thursday think we assumed he would likely miss some time. I think most people would but he has told Mike McCarthy he intends to try to play through it. They're going to experiment with different splints, and they obviously have to protect their that's fractured. But he still wants to be able to try and play. I think we talked about this yesterday that it assuming we thought maybe he would miss some time, and then trying come back with a protective device, but number one we don't know for sure if he's going to be able to work through it. That's what this week is about to test out some different things and see if he can play and play effectively. But the second thing is if he's out there doesn't necessarily mean he's out there as a pass catcher. I'd be leery of using him in fantasy if he has his thumb significantly wrapped it will make it more difficult for him to catch a ball. Matthew. I can't imagine. When to start on C plays on Sunday with this broken thumb right now. No, no. I mean, you know, obviously, not a not a great matchup either as well. So what could he catch a touchdown? I suppose maybe. But no, I mean outside my top ten not somebody that I'm interested in starting hard for me to get particularly cited about Jimmy Graham with that news, Marcus mariota, Stefan. Yeah. We know. This is a story will follow all week. They don't play until next Monday night. So hard for us to provide much in the way of context on the injury report. But what do we know? It's some clarification on the injury. Remember yesterday? I said you could see him moving his hand fingers. It was reported as an elbow injury. But remember I mentioned that I thought his neck gut crunched basically in that play in that you could have something that could come from a higher that could also affect the nerves in your hand and fingers. Well, sure enough yesterday confirmed that Marcus mariota suffered a stinger which actually is an injury between the neck and the shoulder that affects the nerves to the arm and hand, but because he had that nerve injury earlier in the season. I mentioned this word yesterday about nerve tissue being sensitized. It is some. Times easier to have consequences from an injury higher up along the same nerve pathway. So I guess my point is this could be like, oh, it's a stinger good, he'll recover quickly. And won't be a big deal. Keep your out on this. And maybe a little more problematic for him given the prior elbow injury that he had this season. We talked about the titans being sort of like the Bengals adjacent yesterday. Matthew, don't give him. Any more competent starting any of their players? None whatsoever. Sort of feel bad for the titans. Not only feel bad for the titans feel bad for Blaine gabbert. All right. The week after Jared Goff and Patrick Mahomes. Go fifty four fifty one. Here comes Blaine gabbert on Monday night football. Who's ready? You know, it's so that that's a bummer, but he is facing the Shawn Watson. So there is some star power in this particular game. But yeah, I mean, I think you downgrade Corey Davis have given how good the Texans defense played this year hard to get excited about Dion Lewis Derrick Henry. You know, tough to tough to get excited about any of the titans on Monday night. Yeah, I'm sure we'll be tracking that story throughout the week. Agreed on that separate from the lot of tweets last night about like, yeah. Only six days until bills and Jaguars on Sunday after last night's thrilling action. But the bills might have Josh Allen Bax. It looks like if everything continues well this week, you know, he's been out injured in week six the sprain owner collateral ligament in his throwing elbow missed four games. Plus the bye week. We started to see him get back into limited practice sessions before they went into the by. He is on track to start on Sunday after putting in full practice Mondays of things continue to go. Well this week. It will be Josh Allen under center. All right. Good news there. And I don't think that really means anything for fantasy football purposes Matthew, but it's good to see him back under center as the bills. You were just talking about how we don't want to sell quarterback short that early on in their career. And Josh Allen is imperfect put when you watch the bills without Josh Allen. Don't you learn to appreciate them whole lot more. Yeah. Listen, I mean, he's no Matt Barkley. Correct. No one hundred percent listen, Josh Allen, his gutty kid. I've said this before like I got to interview him at the NFL PA rookie premiere really wasn't a huge. Josh Allen fan wasn't anti him. But wasn't you know, somebody that I had a lot of affinity for before meeting him. And after meeting him, I'm like, his teammates are gonna love him super charming self deprecating. Good sense of humor, very self aware. And you can see by his play on the field this year in terms of just how he's, you know, diving over balls and leaping guys and just sort of his style of play can be inspiring. I think in this match against the Jaguars team that look. Jaguars have a good run defense, obviously. But they haven't been the Jaguars and all capital letters. You know this year, there's been some been some leaks here. So maybe Shawn McCoy who seemed to get going against the jets prior to the by maybe the bringing Josh Allen back gives you some hope that McCoy might be usable against Jacksonville on Sunday. Yeah. I think I kinda like both defenses a streaming and the Jaguars not streaming options. But the bills might be an interesting streaming defensive options could be very much a game that plays out like their playoff game did last year when it was very few points and a lot of sort of empty yardage on offense. It's worth noting the Jaguars. But at least eighteen fantasy points in five of their last six games two opposing running backs. And so when you think about how much volume was Shawn McCoy gets in that offense. You know, the mobility of Josh Allen, just I think it I think it's a good thing to the extent that you're using anyone of the bills, and it's really just a McCoy. I think Josh Allen coming back would be a good thing before we get to the waiver wire ads. Stefania? We talked about this yesterday. We have some updates on Alex Smith and significant severe injury. What do we know about the recover? He faces ahead. Well, Adam Schefter tweeted some additional details but Alex Smith's injury. They think are just worth noting. You can appreciate just how difficult this. This injury went. So he's heard compound fracture, which, you know, for those of us who are you could tell just by the deformity of of his ankle relatives that his lower leg that happened. But a compound fracture means the fracture, actually, pierces the skin. Why does that matter? Well, it's immediately opens up greater risk for infection. Because now you've got the leg exposed to the elements, and even if it's protected by a sock. It's a sweaty sock etcetera. It also you worry about vascular structures in nerve structures in the area. So it just elevates the severity of the injury. He was taken immediately by the hospital. He had surgery immediately. And in that surgery they restore alignment fracture. Make sure everything's intact. Adam schefter. Also referenced trauma, surgeons doing the surgery. I think for people that are saying this is like a motor vehicle accident of injury. So it beyond orthopedic surgeon orthopedic trauma specialists who are there, and you want them in this kind of surgery because they're very good at putting things back together in alignment. So I think that was very good news for Alex Smith that he had them available and he also suffered a spiral fracture. And that's basically means when you have so much toward a rotation. It creates a spiraling crack up up through the ball again just harder to fix. So all of these things I think are are to emphasize it what Smith suffered was not a routine injury. Now that being said he had excellent care right away. And there's optimism that he will have a full recovery. What does that mean? What does it look like in terms of his return? That's yet to be determined. I think I saw floating out there six to eight month recovery timetable possible, but not care. In teed mean could be eight months could be ten months. Could be you don't know. So while this is very good news at the outset. I think it's important for people to remember. It's a long recovery process. When you have an injury down that low by your ankle, it's tough to get all your range of motion back. It's not like you have it higher up in the shin where it's far removed from the ankle joins. You gotta get range motion your strength, everything he needs back. But at this time, obviously, a lot of thoughts with Alex Smith, and it was really neat to see last night on the chiefs talking about their thoughts being with Alex Smith is why if you know even in the bay area he still much beloved by forty Niners fans, so very well respected guy, and if anybody's gonna take it seriously he will. But I think I wanted to bring that forward because it's important to know that some of these injuries. Are there more significant, you know, you hear about fractures, all the time football is a collision sport this one? This one was stuff really tough to see in a fantasy spin right now other than we really hope the best for Alex Smith. Long successful career. And we hope that he's back in. It's close to the player. He has been as soon as possible, and wishing well, wishing well seems like a genuinely good person to find your efforts how many teammates and have have a lot of respect. And obviously having worked in Kansas City. Not when Alex was there. But no a lot of people, and I can tell you that all of them think the world of Alex Smith just tremendous guy and made an impact on the Redskins in his brief stint as a starter for this year. We hope he's back soon. Yes. No question about Eddie Mathews, certainly does as well. Daniel tell us about Subaru. You're ready for some waiver wire ads. 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The Subaru share the love of it now through January second and Matthew exploring the waiver wire is brought to you by the all new three row Subaru assent, and let's talk about some quarterbacks because James Winston is a popular add this week in the waiver wire he certainly is. And as you know, every single week field Yates writes, the free agent finds column for ESPN dot com. Say it's the best piece on the internet. Some would certainly say that by some I mean shape and Duke, I'm a I'm a company man hover. It's available. In the ESPN fantasy app and ESPN dot com. So the buccaneers field it's fits it's Winston. It's back to fits now. It's back to Winston. Are you picking them up? Are you trusting them make sense of Tampa Bay from me? Yeah. I would just say this is clearly week to week and that much of a proposition and as much fun or as much as I know people are scared off by the possibility that Jameis Winston will be benched again mid game because we have seen that from James Winston this year. Heck they've bench Ryan Fitzpatrick on two separate occasions and Jameis Winston has been benched on a separate occasion as well. You know, some of that you could probably talk up the match ups, right? Like, you know, the plane the bears. One of the best defense is in football. It wasn't a surprise that the buccaneers struggled. Now, the giants believe it or not are actually a pretty stingy secondary of late, but the Niners with all due respect to really scare you all that much. I understand that. It's possible. Anything had happened. Right. But you know, any quarter? I suppose could probably like great argument. But you know, things can happen to quarterbacks. My point is. Yes, they have a short leash. But they still have such a massive upside. If you're looking at the possibility of just just going through random quarterbacks right now like Jameis Winston or Matthew staff at home against a little bit more enticing than that. But still like, you know, Kirk cousins a good up, but he's been bad recently like see football. He hasn't been great frat. So I would rather roll the dice of a good matchup with James Winston who has the ability to get you thirty points. Then maybe settle for something else. Sure. I look I agree. Look, look, I've been burned bad by recommending Winston this year, you guys know this. But the one thing that has come true is is that the Tampa Bay quarterback whoever that is has managed to put up points, and they sort of in and Yang. And I I will say I think now that the buccaneers are out of it. There's really two ways to go for Tampa Bay. Either say we don't we want to give Jameis Winston the RG three treatment. Which is we're gonna make them like the practice squad quarterback bubble wrap. He's never getting on the field because he is do a twenty million dollars roster bonus. If he is injured come at the new year, but also his salary becomes guarantee. Twenty million dollars. Same practical purpose tractor. Right. So so they either put them in bubble wrap saying like, we're we're moving on from James. And so we're not going to be on the hook for twenty million and put them out there in case it gets injured or they're like, you know, what we're still on the fence as to whether or not we should sign this guy to kind of a franchise type quarterback deal. So let's see what we got here. And so they've announced that he is going to be the starter. They're out of the I mean, the season hasn't gone the way Tampa Bay had hoped. So I think he's probably got longer a longer leash than maybe he would have the last time. He was he was the starting quarterback here. You mentioned the matchups as well. Here. Look the buccaneers allowing over thirty two points. A game teams can score on Tampa Bay. Which means Jameis Winston is going to have to throw by the way, he's allow he's throwing over eleven your air yards per attempt. I mean, they Chuck a deep forty Niners who struggle against the D pass. He's my number seven quarterback for the week. We always talk about high floors with quarterbacks field and Lamar Jackson. We talked about last week. But apparently not enough people. Listen to him because he's still out there in a bunch of leagues. Well, yeah. Exactly. That's right. But people wanted to see it I and I imagine his roster percentage will skyrocket overnight tonight when waivers run, and we both have them as eight items fifteen for quarterback rankings, and there's actually compelling case to raise them up a little bit higher than that in the rankings. But twenty seven rushing attempts last week. This is not information that people weren't previously aware of. But if the floor for Lamar Jackson is I think the floor rushing wise is probably eighty yards for the floor miscellaneous, probably probably. One hundred fifty yards right? Maybe more who knows trying to decide whether he would have higher rushing total or Gus Edwards. The new like number one running. Like who's more likely to get one hundred yards rushing touchdowns? Lamar Jackson attempts. So I would more Jackson has that ridiculous floor and and a great match against a west a Oakland team traveling east for one o'clock game so recipe for success for Lamar Jackson, which is one of the reasons why he will be very popular add this week. Now, I can hear some of the people out there saying or maybe they're tweeting or commenting or whatever it is. They do their Daniel Dopp saying like, hey, come on James Winstons been gone. My league all season long and Lamar Jackson. He was picked up two weeks ago. I need a real stream or come on. I'm gonna I'm gonna super competitive league. I'm going to deeply gimme somebody else field. Let's play with little bit of fire here, Matthew. And if I told you you could have a quarterback facing a team that has allowed twenty five touchdown passes and one interception. This year one. Measly teeny tiny interception, which take your chances on that player. Yeah. I think I might out of every throws against the buccaneers had been completed. So Nick Mones defying his little Nick Mullins right was available. In a ton of leagues is interesting. I've got about nineteen in my quarterback rankings this week. And we've seen him play awesome. In one game already against a pitiful raiders defense. I'm not saying he'll throw three touchdowns again, it'd be lights out. But yeah, I'm always roll the dice. Nick Mullins yellow. Rated just about feel. I haven't ranked at number sixteen. I think he he kept the forty Niners in it likley. He had struggles against the giants. It was only second game starting. Let's be fair. But Nick Mullins can run that offense two weeks to prepare for this game against the buccaneers defense to your point field. That is allowed the most fantasy points per game two opposing quarterbacks. I believe seven different times wanna look at my notes here. Seven different quarterbacks have scored over twenty fantasy points against the buccaneers. So just if you play Tampa Bay you've got a good shot and again cow Shanahan said two weeks to prepare for this game and to sort of game plan and scheme something that takes advantage of Nick Mullen strength against Tampa's defense little daily tip. George kill Nick Mullins. Stand up on you stack for week twelve rights there. It's going to be hot and Tampa Bay this weekend. Seats are still available. Matthew for this game? I think perhaps if you would like to go see Nick Mullins in person got on the Nick Williams train before it leaves the station. 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And I have because he is still well below the fifty percent roster percentage that allows them to be qualifies him for the com-. Well, I'm going to give you credit your Matthew. I was a bit more skeptical. The Josh out of school in to carve a roll out immediately in this Philadelphia. The backfield because there's so much real estate occupied by cork lament windows. Smallwood heck Darren sproles could soon return. There are a lot of players that have some level ability for Philadelphia and yet last week despite a thrashing from the Saint there was one thing to feel good about and that was Josh Adams performance seven Russia's fifty three yards and a touchdown. But even probably Justice encouragingly as he had three catches for nineteen yards. So we'd like to see that he's a top twenty five play for both of us this week. They play the New York Giants in a must win game for Philadelphia. He should've been drafted last year. He was ridiculous player at Notre Dame. People thought he was going to be a Heisman contender point during last season before Baker Mayfield just took off and ran away with that award but Adams looks apart. And we hope they to say that dedicated to him, and it sure seems like they are based off last week's usage last three games averaging over seven yards per carry those same games Corey Clement Wendell Smallwood averaging two point four five yards per carry. So same offense same line. Josh have been a lot affect have been very effective where Clement and small would. I've not allowing him to wait for it away. Nila this job. Alright. So it's been awhile since I've had a fantasy player on my roster named Gus big Gus fraught fan back in the day, of course. But suddenly, there's a chance to have another Gus. That's right. Gus Edwards who I as I said yesterday like who takes who takes rights to claims rights to Gus words Rutgers or the you started to you. I don't know. Knowing knowing the you knowing to find you pretty much. I'm sure yeah. I think two weeks ago, they would've said Rutgers right now that he's done something all the bandwagon is over here like star fine. Yeah. Sitting here. Like oh. Yeah. Loved him at the U. Anyway Gus bus. He went crazy in week eleven he had forty six snaps yet over one hundred rushing yards him and Lamar Jackson were a two man band seventeen Russia's for hundred and fifteen yards. They combined for forty four rushing attempts. And the ravens have been looking for that spark plug at running back. Alex Collins role has seemingly faded a little bit week to week. And maybe the ravens view Gus Edwards as the most capable player because of his skill set to play alongside Lamar Jackson for some reason or the other maybe the best play in space player the best make you miss player on this roster. And maybe the biggest of follower in this offense this past week was buckling to play just five snap. I don't know that I fully buy into the idea that. Gus Edwards is going to have this role unto himself. But I do believe there's a chance that Gus ally. Gus Edwards is going to be the ravens running back. You wanna roster the rest of the season? Most I rank them just inside my top thirty this week. The there is a little bit of buyer, beware. Because we've seen this before the ravens where like it'd be a big buck Allen game. Well, I guess guess buck Allen's taking this backfield over then the very next week buckling went away. And then it was back to the house Colin show, but forty six snaps for Gus Edwards last week to just seventeen for Collins. And to your point he looked the part his eleven had eleven carries the game five or more yards of his seventeen carries. I mean, the only players with more such carries in a game this season Todd Gurley. Melvin Gordon saquon Barkley Christian McCaffrey, Chris Carson, like a nice list to be on there. So when you heard John Harbaugh talk about him after the game in terms of how he just ran north south and gave his team sparkin. So given how run having they wanna be with the Marge axon. Even if you see more of an increase in Collins Edwards is carved out a role from self and. You know, obviously needs to be roster and a lot more leagues. We talked about the Riddick earlier in the show. He's available in seventy percent of leagues and we do like them in PR leagues is sort of a flex us. We given the fact that we don't expect kerryon Johnson to play on thanksgiving. Let's take a quick break yet them right back after this and finish off with just a few wide. Receivers of note going with the team defense gave up five touchdowns last week. Not smart. You know, what is smart using ZipRecruiter to find qualified candidates fast? Unlike other job sites, ZipRecruiter skin, thousands of resumes to identify people with the right experience for your job, then actively invites them to apply. 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Buckeye, but those raspberry scores. Well, listen, I I know the I know that field sister, the lovely caddy. It's listens to every show. So listen caddy. Just a direct message from your pal Mattie to you. I don't believe field. We'll take any of these treats in. So I need you to figure out a way to get them to the owner. Mama gates treats, get them here to the six zero. Don't trust field with them. I'm just I'm just asking you also friend of friends what I can do. Let's get to the wide receiver agile. The we break once Smith for the saints was unbelievable last week ten for one fifty seven and a touchdown in week eleven now listen that nearly what he had for the entire season leading up to that point. This is the upside ad though. This is just trust the talent trust the offense. And heck they need somebody to catch passes. Besides my Thomas amongst their wide receivers they've gotten some solid contributions from David Kirkwood and Austin Carr amongst other players, and perhaps Brandon Marshall see some work here. But trick wants myth is far towns at anywhere else. They have besides my Tom's a wide receiver other than the two teams that played last night. There may not there's not a hotter. Offense in the NFL than the saints. You could argue there on. I mean, like, it's unbelievable. Just how good they are how dial than they are and trae Kwan Smith who impressed so much in the preseason. And we talked about how many rows he was running and Ken he can that translate reduction. We finally saw it translate last week. So certainly trae Kwan Smith there's a lot of upside there we've seen the number two wide receiver. Ted Ginn was what a top thirty wide receiver last week years something like that. So we've seen the number two. Yeah. We're live here field. And it's the holidays. My family would like not like me to get fired. So close to the holidays, but Trayvon Smith is certainly somebody that needs to be rostered in more leagues. Let's move over to Baltimore. No. We talked about Lamar Jackson. We talked about Gus Edwards. Like, you're all ravens this week this week. I have a little bit of positive one in Willie Snead. But over ten points in eight of ten games. So far this season. They threw the ball nineteen times last week. So I turn Willie Snead could be I mean, it might be this Matthew it might be that one ravens wide receiver proves to be fantasy relevant for each week that Lamar Jackson start whether that's just one more. Whether that's five more games or have many games they have left this season. So there are some mitigating circumstances here, but Willie seat has been so steady, and so solid. And right now, if you're going to have to fill in for a player, like tyreek hill or Robert woods or Brandin cooks like you'll be taking the hit. They don't just have twenty points per game wide receivers available in the waiver wire. But. You would take somebody that could get you ten. He there's a floor there. There's there's a limited ceiling yet. Like, if you're swinging for the fences, you prefer trae Kwan Smith, or you know, there's a couple of other guys that you know, maybe have much higher upside. But there are certainly a floor with Willie Snead who has at least seven targets now in seven straight games. That ravens offense is always sort of targeted the slot. A guy that I actually have higher than Willie Snead on my personal ranks in terms of way wires this week. But makes your list as well is a rookie from Carolina DJ more who's one of many wide receivers. We don't have the time to go through the whole list. But the last four games has got twenty one targets which was the same number as Devon function. He had five targets for the fifth time in his past six games this past weekend against the Detroit Lions they have a great schedule during the fantasy playoff TJ more this trust the talent ad for the first round pick out of Maryland. Yeah. I mean, so certainly certainly the pedigree is there and we've seen the production inconsistently, but we have seen it there. I actually prefer him to Willie Reed Willie Snead I should say. Say or Willis Reed to be honest. I would think so. Yeah. Yeah. Willis reads fantasy value is not as not not what it once was. But DJ more, especially by the way, when you look at Carolina schedule coming up, not just you know, starting with this week at home against Seattle, but just throughout the rest of the fantasy playoffs. Like, it's a really nice schedule for the entire Carolina Panthers. Especially the passing offense and one last guy. I just want to mention real quickly feel that would be my number one guy actually this week is KiKi Cutie with five or more catches in three or five games. Five or more targets and four of five games last week had a thirty seven percent target. Sure. I think the expectation was with the Maria's Thomas coming in. He would sorta take away. But that's not been the case. And I don't know if anyone was watching fantasy will now on Sunday. But Dan Graziano was reporting from that Redskin Texans game, and he talked about he's like when you talk to Texans coaches about KiKi Cutie like their eyes light up. I'm paraphrasing here a little bit. But just you know, they talked about like he's more speed. And they realized they wanna do different things they keep trying to figure out different ways. And there's clearly a connection with Shawn Watson as well. L? So honestly, I think he can Cutie has carved out a significant role for himself in that Texans often. 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Oh, my family, and I have not prevailed in helping her and the only one I trust to give some solid dating advice as Matthew berry. I would set them up in a corner after thanksgiving dinner is over for Matthew to instill unprecedented wisdom upon her. Michelle Beedle, also, it'd be invited. As the duo would give dating advice that is unmatched hash tag free. Matty's dating advice say bring that back. I may have to treat you know, because we did it for a while. And then like some of the some of the suits here kind of shot it down, but there's been different suits. There's been there's been changing in suits. Some suits are still around some suits and comeback around that actually I gotta Sunday. Yeah. But I may I may try to fly I may try to fly that flag again. We'll see if I get anywhere with it. But I might try to fly that flag again, Matty's dating advice. So we have five submissions. We've Todd with the love hate thanksgiving style. Which is Matthew. Liz would choose me because I'm look like a homeless person. Yup. Kaley with field being at the kids table and helping with dishes, Cody with Mike clay being dry and factually correct as a trip to fan and Ryan would want Matty's dating advice after thanksgiving dinner. All right. So I'm gonna I'm gonna go ahead. I'm gonna I'm gonna say, let's take Cody off the list. I don't think cody's a contender at the moment degree with that kind of Mike we love. Yeah. Let's see. I think. I appreciate it. I I don't know how you guys felt but I felt like the the love hate thanksgiving style while I appreciate it. Got sweep the end felt a little long to me. I agree with you on that. So as you haven't noticed guys the these guys short to the point the point short to the white Daniels was so fun. What is it? This is the winner for me. Yeah. No, no. Daniel will not go hungry, which is good. And for all, you know, like Daniel might actually bring something to write signed up. Let's homeless. You get to watch the lions game with Daniel all say, that's right. I know it's not right. I'm probably and then there, and she's fulfilling it, charity obligation. Well, just case. It's actually she's she's fulfilling charitable obligations. She's watching the lions game. And then also bringing in Jesse. I think well, I appreciate the shoutout to Matty's. Dating advice. Ryan is clue longtime fan if he's referencing me and beetle doing dating advice. So really appreciate that. Ryan. And I enjoyed Kaley. Talking about field being at the kids table. I have to agree with to find you here. I think Liz who says dopplers homeless and could use a good meal is my vote is. Well, all right. So that is Liz co serious give or take something like that. Liz, Liz series. All right. Liz, Liz, you are the ZipRecruiter fan of the week. Welcome to the show. Congratulations. Don registrations. Liz. All right. And then this is the question we are asking for the following week. 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GSMC Sports Podcast Episode 714: Mahomes Gets PAID, Spring Football and The Division With The Best Running Backs

GSMC Sports Podcast

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GSMC Sports Podcast Episode 714: Mahomes Gets PAID, Spring Football and The Division With The Best Running Backs

"In, this is your ultimate staffer. Everything Sports, the Golden State, media, concepts or podcast should I say more from the NFL MLB the NBA MMA. It's all in here. Golden state media concepts sports podcast listen. Now. Woman? podcast identify G as MC podcast network. My name is Chris Blades and before he started today. When take take the time to remind you guys as always if you haven't already please of the podcast Michigan. Emma snaps with on top point. Drop related stuff also be could piece as well because a five star rating rice interview. Me Very appreciating very helpful features like would you disliked the ways we can improve all that fun stuff and also few on social media once West Mead twitter instagram facebook we can talk. We can chat. We can debate. We can discuss and obviously. The big discussion I guess. Of most the. Monday hearing. This one is the most. And still some Tuesday was Patrick Mahomes. Because that boy got. Pay. You got the big bags. Shout to him well I think it was a ten year. Eventually equals out to about five hundred three million dollars extension off the top of the two years. Lady already had leftover from rookie deal so twelve years. Number five hundred million dollars half a billion. So yes, out to him I kind of deal I'm not I. kind of deal because he's the first player to sign for that amount of years in the NFL, I mean have napping awhile. No Mike Vick did it with his first one hundred million dollar contract with the Falcons. I thank Donovan. mcnabb did it like gotTa Ten twelve year deal I think with the eagles. Brett Farve longer years term deal. drew bledsoe. decided somewhere know more recently. Tyron Smith signed like an eight year deal with the cowboys, but obviously different positions 'cause not the left. How important they don't get big money, but they're not getting quarterback. Money's not saying but yeah. So first of its kind terms of the amount of money he could get, and that's the funny thing. When you look at these contracts, it's not like another trying to compare it to like. It's you're looking at like Mike Trout. Who Had I think his? His deal was twelve years. One hundred. A hundred of who sees me. Twelve years four hundred twenty six point, five million dollars short on his money there, but his full guarantee so again it's different. Well, his is longer. The guarantees are a lot bigger in I. Think Mahomes as guarantees are only for Like one, hundred, forty million after the injury, then obviously the way his contract is set up the the more times on the chiefs, which he I mean he will be. The more the longer amount times on a more money gets not fun. Stuff I the way the contract set up with all those. Years the first time I've ever heard of a guarantee mechanism before. It's not I. Don't think it's a brand. New Concept is not not something people mentioned. We'll get into that in a second but yes. Oh, there's a shout to him. my discussion around the deal like, but I mean it's the same thing with every quarterback designs like Oh is he underpaid is the overpaid. Is it team friendly? Our team be able to afford this position of Appalachian Blah Blah Blah. All that stuff that typically comes whenever like I, said a quarterback deal the one good thing to come from this deal or the come out of this deal and I think Unicom's at touched on it. On high questionable earlier when I was watching. She said that this was really the first time recently. Assad's doctor said it's never happened, but first time recently that accord rest got this deal. oh. Do deserve it. Because I mean like one quarterbacks. Just that's just the nature of the position people that may or may not deserve the money. Get the money all the time. That's I mean. That's just come gonNA. Have to get over that at this point as fans but. I said when you look at homes as I've said many times on this podcast, he is the best quarterback in the league. Say by far, but just like bar. None in my opinion, I don't really see how you can put anyone. Above him currently now I'm not saying he's the best quarterback ever even say he's going to become the best quarterback. Africa's. Here's a Lotta time left to to see if that's going to. Play Alec House Kind of jazz down the line, but Currently right now. I don't really see an argument for anyone else being better. I mean he's a Ford from, but actually back to back super bowls. and. Super Bowl victories lousy would have been back to appearances the back to back super bowl victories potentially an MVP. May Be could have won the second Armenian her. This yourself not GonNa do like what if about everything, but I'm at the very least would have to super bowl into at an MVP in his first two years of the star. I mean not very many people can say that. Along with the MVP. VP's through five thousand fifty two touchdowns as a first year starter so. I don't really know how you. Say anybody else's the best quarterback, but. We didn't have that that was the one time 'cause going to happen is whenever, or if ever, because that's that's an interesting. We'll talk about that the next segment. The, whole situation. When, and if he gets his money whether it's like I said whether since. I guess what have a we? Have a week from today. I think they have the will when you ask. Today so the the things. The fifteenth is the final. day to work on a deal, and if not then he was plan on Franchise Diabetes Year. Renegotiate next year which would be disaster from his side because the cove is GonNa take that money so. I I not that I'm saying Jerry can afford it. But I imagine he's not going to give out the big money. Just having lost a bunch of revenue from the year before and the captain below in all stuff so. If I redacted by going to get the deal now, but. Takes two to tango. Look at him, and then you look at the Watson, it may happen a little bit not. It's not gonNA be as big of a discussion as Dak in my opinion, depending on what the number is that he gets. Will be inflated because of Mahomes. We looking at the deal itself from both sides I really don't see it as a bad thing. Other? Than the years on the home side is pretty interesting. You don't see on football. Players signed those long term deals just because which. Is I. Mean we knew most GonNa. Reset the quarterback market to agree would he has About with most of these contracts like they become. dated very quickly. So like who are at the top in terms of like average salary per year in everything. reignite the most guaranteed money the most. They are always want. It by the next quarterback that comes up so late somebody I think. no. Carson Wentz at the time. was at one point, he was like the highest paid top two top three. In terms like like total like guarantee money whatever cap? It wasn't that bad because the last two years, he's been on his. Well this year. Of this coming up in the last year, he was on the last two years of his deal, so it's Kathy doesn't kick in until the next season. And then it'll start getting high. But now I think by like. You'll be like. In the bottom half of the top ten in terms of cafe. And at the time it was like. Oh, my gosh is such a big deal. And I mean obviously how he's a little bit. Different the. contract. Configuration he's. He's good with the numbers. Bs most these guys they kind of. Every time up just a new new guy coming out on top. So you knew that was going to happen here and like I, said it happened with Mahomes but. like I. said is weird because of the amount of years because. The people signed five years six year deals. On and they have a chance to to re up one like at the market again or potentially extension, and then just like get the money from there, and even though it is a full ten-year quote, unquote deal would twelve. It's really been built. World had a really thorough article about The contract to how breaks down different. Questions that you could ask about the contract and everything like that on ESPN. read it on the APP. But he's he basically just said that in reality, the structure of the deals, six years and one hundred eight three point four million before the two sides could cannon negotiate a new contract after the twenty twenty five season finishes. So. With that like all right, whatever the total five hundred! Wherever says he's not going to get that because it may be higher if in a few years ones come more MVP's more super bowls. Is GonNA NOT GONNA. Play out the full ten years of his deal I've been he's going to renegotiate somewhere in there somewhere like the five six year range especially after other guys like I think it was on. Is the IT will be up around that time? Golf will be up around that time. And Dak into Sean. If they don't sign long-term deals, they'll deals will be up at that time. not sure we'll be a Russell Wilson's deal, but he got a new deal. not too far before that, so he's. GonNa be the quarterback market art. I'm getting paid a lot. But comparatively to the guys who I consider myself better than than an out, consider better than all those guys The gaps not big enough or I mean again. You don't want to sound like after agree, but at the same time it's like. A you. You see that are performing their deal in their mind. Even if it's a lot of money, they're like all right well. This guy that I think I'm better than getting paid X. amount more than me, so I should get a raise kind of thing and like I, said if Mahomes wins a couple more MVP's Komo superbowl between now, and then it's not going to be unwarranted from to. For him to want. That aspect of it and then also. In terms like the new money. Is really not that bad least in the next few years again because I'm in the last few years of this deal. I'm the first two years of the of the. Of the four year like twelve year, total are of his rookie deal so again. The money's not going to be crazy wants three to kick in until. I guess what twenty twenty two. Somewhere around there, I think I. think that's I think the Mavericks Out, so that's his new money is like I think in total he. Highest One was. Golfing when he signed his four year extension. For one, hundred thirty four in his Nova next, four years he'll have. A one fifty five. So it averages out about fifteen million. Or the magic out about fifty million more than golf when you adjust for. Inflation, which isn't really that much more. When you really think about it. All these guys golf Wentz that you must reaching both signed with two years after the idea, which is exactly what mahomes did so you'll get the new money in the New Year's like it's not that much more. Than those guys but. Again it's still more so that's kind of what you're going for so. When you look at it from both sides, it makes sense I mean. No one's in turn down a chance to make after billion dollars. Even though again the contract will get ripped up at some point. He'll be able to make potentially more than that. And then from chief's perspective, have their guy tied in long term? For. A total of twelve years, but had like a ten year extension, so you're talking about. He's twenty four now. I'll be thirty six. You plays out the full like this deal without renegotiating or anything. So, you'll have employees thirty six, then in thirty six I mean that's not that old and quarterback time nowadays, assuming no injuries and stuff like that when you see guys like a jewelry is in Tom. Brady, play. While until late thirties early forties. Like there's no reason to expect that. Mahomes can do the same thing else. He's not gonNA. Be as athletic. But I mean by then he'll. The more time you spend, their read better Understand the game on a mental aspect and relief and stuff like that. Someone's someone lasts up down, I mean. Is Hard to say sky's. The limit goes I mean. It seemed. He's already surpassed what the limit should be young quarterback, but I mean now we're talking about. Potentially entering goat, status. As he is the chief have their guy for twelve years again from their perspective I mean they Kinda They've been searching for this guy for years now searching for that. Super Bowl for years now and they got it. There were not gonNA. Let that chance look away isn't getting be no reason to have any ill will bad blood between the two sides from the specter, like the what was the point just like whatever he wants more or less within reason, just give a is not really that complicated, and then mahomes can seem like he wants to go anywhere. And Again, we only know what the railroad mindless I can totally see the cap. A few years down lines is any renegotiating or how the code that is, affects things, or if there's a new TV money that. More causes our cap to bump up to where like his delivery, not that bad but it's one of those things where it's hard to really say that. It's hard to say how much money is too much money for Golic mahomes me anything he would have gotten people be like yeah, I mean that's probably good enough that he got more. When you think of like all right? A ten year, five hundred million dollars engine you'll like. Does Not know, let's not too bad. Then, that's kind of crazy like everyone's talking about like. Oh, how team friendliness for teeth team from the industry and we're talking about a guy getting half a billion dollars in this like. He probably could have got more. As the funny thing about he, if he would have gotten more known, what about it or not? Suffer, both sides in my opinion makes sense works out. There was going to happen. BANARAS, going to have to see how the rest of the domino's fall with the some of the other quarterbacks, not just. Coming up, maybe potentially this off season, but in the future so. I talk about the. The domino effect of Mahomes and the chiefs, agreeing to this kind of big big, not even a big money, but big year extension. Rap. Break so stay right there. Hey I'm andy. If you don't know me, it's probably because I'm not famous, but I did start. A men's grooming company called Harry's. The idea for Harry's came out of a frustrating experience I had buying razor blades. 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Or as much mentioned in the in the reporting of the of the stanchion. I think it's a copy mindset article when I was talking about, but he does the point Basically like his guarantee like the year before, so like ours twenty twenty two. If he's on a team by the third league year, I mean third day of the League year which he will be than is his money will be guaranteed for twenty three, and then turned twenty three. If he's the same things goes, getting money will be guaranteed for twenty thousand four, so basically the way year doing is that like if he's on the team, your basic deciding for further next year. If you think he's GonNa. Be Worth. It is GONNA be team. Everything's GonNa be worth was. He's going to be on for this year and next year and I ain't got after rethink that every, so you've really is a two year. Gap is opposed like a one year to you window when you're engaging the guarantees whether you're keeping around or not. Supposed to one year. which I mean again, mahomes will be and He's GonNa. Make a lot of money doing that, but it. The thing is just the way it was set up. It just sounds different, but. Though, that's kind of the way the guarantees will be set. Each each year pass. It guarantees the money for the next year. Kinda thanks again belongs on the contract. The more money he eventually of getting. You think because the campus down line would be bigger, but. Stuffing I think that's how that works. Hopefully explain that properly. we s when you think about. Is when to take it away from Mahomes, anything about the other quarterbacks in the league in how they will be affected by this extension so I. You can look at it from terms of art will teams or quarterbacks be willing to sign extensions for this amount of first years. And you can argue from both sides like that's probably not going to happen. just for one one main reason. Is that like the quarterbacks around right now? Side of like potentially A. A young. A young quarterback Joe Borough. Trevor Lawrence coming along in a few years. That could potentially get something like this. Let the quarterbacks in the League. Right now probably won't warrant a ten year commitment to a team. You wouldn't do that with anybody over thirty. so Russell wasn't al, even though. A few years ago, you could have been worth a barrage wasn't probably out. based on what we've seen from. Jared Goff this past season also in super. Bowl. It would be hard to argue that he would be worth. if they were to the OH, he'd be worth something that big Desha is not going to get i. mean he's not because. I'm Bill O'Brien, making some wild deals so I. don't want to say that though it sounds like he wants a shorter term deal on, but again you never really know until the deals. I didn't expect him home. He had a ten year deal units him. Go out of money, so you Desha wind get that. Had some injury history a little bit again. Nothing nothing too crazy either them like. This year, but other than that he's had little things here narrows. He had those at the. Collapse long or push along. We couldn't even like fly home on the plane and stuff like that. He had the I thing. Honestly that little things here and there, but nothing like. Season ending outside of the twenty l.. But even still it's the thing that happened in college in the pros you any. He's A. He's not A. Guy Any move around a lot, so. I'm you always kind of worry about those guys? Though you are getting down, that's the beauty of a quarterback Murray. because even though he small and fast and runs around. He generally doesn't get hit that hard same with Russell like they. When you when you are not the biggest guy you, you don't really stay, take those big shots. If when you don't have to like the bigger guys like the big bands or the Carson Wentz toward their think like all right, if I just hanging there little bit, I'll be able to make a play. And then that that that leaves you acceptable to some of those big hits and some injuries potentially. Low guaranteed, but potentially so. When you have when you smaller small as you find ways to avoid getting hit like that, so. I said. Come the in between were he'll? He'll get hit, but then again he's not like. like just a a a dummy back there. He's a moving target, so he's not. He's not going to get clean all the time, but it's not impossible BSO with him. it would be hard to say that he would warn ten year deal same of Carson. Wentz, he has more injury concerns in the Sean has, but still until he can show that he can play through full seasons which I needed play through full regular season. This past year did the same thing as a rookie on. Got The cheap shot in the playoff game, but he didn't game again. Most quarterbacks wounded finish that playoff. Most players. When finished. I playoff game hit like that. to the back of the head with the helmet. but regardless it didn't happen he he has had season ending injuries to other years in between his rookie in his fourth year, so the injury concerns are there the quarterback be back and he hasn't even had a commitment from the cowboys yet, so how agnew said he's GonNa get a ten year. Deal doesn't make any sense. You could argue Lamar, but again with the the running. is going to be hard to say that you're GONNA WANNA commit to that fourteen years with with such unknown, regarding that place the on again. have. They even see how he does this this this coming season because. He was good news good this past year. I don't think he's going to be bad. But again you have to. You have to see how plays out I. You don't WanNa you. WanNa see a drop-off in play. From from him so like I said you got, you gotta wait that out I, but we'll see how that goes for them. The Mars the only quarterback right now you could argue we get some kind of long-term deal like that. but I don't think it's going to happen. About again. I didn't think them homes. It was gonNA happen in terms of the amount of year, so we shall see I. Don't think it's GonNa really change the way quarterbacks. Our contacts at least in terms of the length. Could I don't think it must be gonna be wanting to commit to anybody that amount of time? Russell, when it comes to the money. I think it'll be interesting because it seems like the two next guys out. Both. Dak and Masa it looking for shorter turn deals. So, it's GonNa. Be Hard to get that big dollar amount of three or four year extension kind of thing. It's negative. It's just will. I mean for Watson Debbie an extension for. Dak.. Academy extension if they if he plays out the Franchise Tag Jeffrey how that works with the contract situation, but. Again, it's not. The mine is GonNa be a little bit different. Because of the new money you would get over the first couple of years again. If sense short term deal, you're not the real romanised After the rookie the rookie is up for on. That's two years down the line. And then for Dak would be I guess what after the shape is making big money this year on the Franchise Tag so it'll be a little bit different, but again they want shorter-term. You're not gonNA get those massive. Cap It's unless they're gonNA have them play for. forty million dollars a year which seems. Unlikely to me especially in the. In the post wrong. Rona sports world where the finance is going to. Take, a little bit of a hit, and the owners are GonNa WanNa try to make some of their money back on the back in by paying guys as much can be and stuff like that, so you would think. They would. Do that, but yes, so it just it just. I mean it's going to be weird. Because normally you would think like all right. Yeah, so this guy new. The next guy up is the like we talked about the guy that sets new standard. But you look at? Look at Shawnee, look at Dak as a point I think of washing around the one. They pointed this out. Like mahomes is foreign one in his playoff career again. I'm not a big quarterback Wednesday, but I mean in this blouse US foreign. One could easily be five now again with no Ford and I think he's lost. Lost the game by more than seven. And in those games that he has lost his team's scores like throw over thirty points a lot. Of the time shows you. He's not he's not. He doesn't have that many stinkers. Sean, you see back. Every once in a while, they'll put up a stinker. Like ten fourteen. The year for the cowboys whether he's turn on is a separate point, but he looked fine the week after the acronym nine points with fully like everybody else on the offense was like healthy play everything. Whereas defense was was what it was, but he put them nine points. this John like I said he was a little up and down throughout the season. If they're like, you have some games that some excesses thinkers in there. So. That's not the case of home. Even his bad games like good. So it's. It's hard for you like when you're coming to negotiating tape. When you're like all right, we want a deal less than one homes that obviously, but similar ballpark is like. How can you say that? Because I mean I think they have to Plow Flynn's combined during the two of them. The Sean and And dactyl. So say, how can you warrant? getting that kind of money when you don't have the accolades that he has again, they don't have the MVP down. Have the all pro team? They, don't they don't have the ring. They. Don't have the the plow performances. The playoff moments like that, so it's like. How can we say that your warrant you worth a similar amount again? Not the same but similar. Normally, that's not going to be the case with most Gaza. Again. You get a New Year. Rookie undergill. You get you get the extension. doesn't matter really who got it. 'cause most I mean most guys. Are Winning I'm an animal. Say Most, but people are winning rookie deals, but again as point I think it was i. mean it comes to like if like ours, so say if Matt Ryan Wins Zoo Bowl in twenty sixteen. F. Aaron Rodgers instead of. if Aaron, Rodgers and the packers don't fold up against the NFC championship game. F what else I'm trying to think who else. see if those things happened. There was there was another it was another Bush pointed out to I. Forget who it was. be able to even just those examples recently like those guys were on big time deals when they would have made it to the Super, bowl so let's not. You can't win with big time. quarterback that the big thing now is like you had dear. You gotta be like on a inexpensive deal. I those guys were on clinical inexpensive deals, and they would have made it. Super Bowl had. Or One Super Bowl in Matt Ryan. Giggs had again catastrophe. That had Qadhafi Nash Dr So. It's hard to. Say That like the. You're GonNa want these guys to take less and stuff like that. But when it comes to their deal time like I said it's going to be hard for them to warm getting that big money when you have mahomes, who's clearly? A lovel- above and you're just everyone traffic him. By the same time he's used in court rather got the most recent deals. That's who you compare it to, but it's like you don't have what he has. And he's young. He's only twenty four. Like so it's like all right. It's not like a new. Thirty year old guy got a new deal. You think that could be better than him in like. A couple years kind of thing. I knows the guy that's only going to go up from here. Which is Kinda scary, so it's hard to say that like all right? You new guys coming up for new deals with like again back home. Adecco! Daqing Watson Tomb next guys up and it's like. How can you say there and get more money? Even with that I. don't really like the funniest thing is. This might be one of the few deals like it doesn't really affect the other quarterbacks that much. Again, it's it's the number of the Gaudy. It may reset the quarterback market a little bit down the line, but like for this upcoming counter negotiationa especially with what the demand. These guys are is going to be hard to argue. that. They deserve what he got, but again if you're, the cowboys are more specifically than the Texans to the Texans a little place, fear the cab you. Kinda held firm on this five year deal long term commitment from DAG as opposed to like a four year. On that I believe. Is that the room out there that that's what he's been wanting? Then you're like all right? See mahomes can. Commit to the team for long term. So why can't you the only real positive for either decides in this valley? Are you have examples of teams like? Are we WANNA. Like, MOM would commit to us to the chiefs for ten years on top the two yard he had. If you, WanNa be a cowboy and say you want to be cowboy for entire career. All right and you can do the same thing so. that. That's the only way I think. It's going to really affect things, but like I said Bill Bombo had a interesting article about this, so I would read up on. That was very. Very extensive and like I said broke down a lot of different things, a lot of things I talked about even some of the things. I didn't talk about like What it means for Chris, Jones. Mega said if there really is a winner or loser, how How everything breaks down a lot stuff? So if you want to read that I would recommend. But Do. I? Do believe that the cowboys. I. Mean Watson Been Already have so? You don't really do think this will incentivize them to get a deal done just because you don't want. If the cowboys now don't want to sean getting another deal to that really messes you up. Like them home deal was like you knew who's going to get a lot of money. So that is what it is. The Sean deal that he's more comparable. In terms of like talent level. When is you better is is is the Sean better as doc better. So get something bigger than what you WANNA pay then. That's GonNa there are something maybe lower than you. Would you want from DAX? That's going to hurt in negotiation so I think it. You KINDA WANNA. Get out in front of that because. The homes things already concert up to a degree but again. This contract is lagging outlier in my opinion, terms years in the money and stuff that no one else is getting that right now at least. So for both things will probably incentivize that garbage while yet this done. And I said from. From both perspective, you WanNa Dax I. Do you want to get it done so? In case Sean has take last in makes you look bad, and then if you're Jerry, want to get it done. In case He raises the the price of what Dacca's GonNa. Ask for because you don't want pain. In theory on pain, whatever the number is now so if it goes up I, don't -Magine Olympia that so. I think I. DON'T SANITIZE MTA deal and they got a week to do it. but yeah, we'll see so. Stay, they will stay tuned for that. You've anymore quarterback extensions. Signed. yeah, but speaking of A. Big decisions coming up, the WNBA may have a decision on its hands with one of its owners. Who has been outspoken about some of the show justice that the WNBA is doing and a lot of players are not happy about it, so we'll talk about all that stuff. Rocket a break. Stay right there. Hey I'm andy. If you don't know me, it's probably because I'm not famous, but I did start. 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And father was finding to the WNBA's having approved displaying back probably on the court at the Academy in Bradenton Florida where the season obviously WNBA shooting also agree to honor women such as Sandra blam beyond Taylor Vanessa Gillian. Have died in connection with these action or alleged racial bonds Vanessa Jillian was obviously. soldier. I don't I don't know the correct terminology with the rank of the soldier that was from Fort Hood that that those. A lot of media covered for and she. Her remains were found. Thing was last week. This story was the tragic. If you read up on it, not that any of these aren't tragic, but that one was like especially tragic the Unlike they do a lot of. Blackened Brown, woman. Feller stamped a staunch reporter of the president wrote I am adamant. I adamantly opposed the matter. Political Movement, which has advocated for the defunding of police called for move of Jesus from churches in the destruction of the nuclear family structure, harbored antisemitic views and promoted bonds destruction across country. I believe it's totally misaligned with the values and goals the WNBA any land dream where we support. And inclusion. She told Engelbert. That, she was incredibly disappointed to read about efforts to insert a political platform into the league. Adding the truth is, we need last, not more politics in sports in a time where polarizing politics is as divisive as ever. This probably the only thing she said before agree with. Sports has the power to be unifying antidote in there. It is I disagree. And now more than ever, we should be united in our goal to remove politics from sports I mean they play the national, anthem. Before sporting events. About this right there. but I digress in the letter. The Feller said that she thinks adding the American flag jerseys licensed a jerseys in life as a pair would be a common sense solution. though. Not Consulted about nor do I agree with the leaves decision in the matter on proposing obviously the. The recommendation to have the flags a number of current and former WNBA players. Including Shales Swoops Sky Digging, Smith Tasha Cloud Eliza. Clark in Subaru have asked Engelbert to remove. We'll fell as co owner of the of the dream. seuss's tweeted that the ending must do better. W.. W A New York Liberty Player Lie. LAKESHA CLARITIN. Cyrus That name who used to play for the dream tweeted. I can't believe I ever stepped foot in coach house in Cheddar meal with her. It's actually very hurtful to see her true colors. I had no idea why play for Atlanta, she felt this way. To own us as long as we stay quiet and perform. Cloud, until it ABC, News live on Tuesday that that's what we see so often. Sports with culture with music is that you're okay, was black people as long as they stay in their place? Performing or they're sports stars so now that we're kind of taking our power back and ask asking for you know better pleasing in communities Rasim for more resources to be poured in I think comfortable, you know. Had to see. and. She goes on to the TACO, but more and that she thinks I. Think it's really tough. And as a black woman as playing sports, you know my businesses political like sports is so I think it's funny to ask. Task like for the flag as well to. HAVE THAT ON JERSEY. Issued a statement Tuesday saying the WNBA is based on the principle of equal and fair treatment of all players. When we along with the teams and players will continue to use our platform vigorously advocate for Social Justice Senator Kelly feller has not served as a governor of the. Has Not served as governor of the dream since two thousand nineteen is no longer involved in day to day business of the team. So. At the end, because clearly, she still thinks she's involved whether or not. She's a bit officially involved with the team since one thousand nine. is a separate point though. In fairness. The last season ended is literally been nothing I mean they'd had free agency in the draft and things like that but like. The season on, so I'm curious to see like how much she would normally done. Before that. But Yeah, that was quite interesting. Quite interesting day quite interesting reaction only because. yeah, there were a lot of players that were unhappy with those comments I, no surprise surprise especially when you look at another was a breakdown. From the Kendall Baker on twitter, he broke down the sports, and and the percentage of of white white players that were in the percentage of white media that covers them but Not The main point of this for this specific. causations of my point was that WB only seventy percent white players, so that means eighty percent are everything else whether it's. Black. Hispanic Latin X Asian. Whatever? They are. Ninety three percent of everything else him in seventeen percent. So. Obviously, this is a League M. There again than out of most of the sports, these outside of the MLS and MLB obviously quote Unquote Weider Sports. We're going to have. Presenters MFL Kinda high. That's really only because I'm getting a lot of not a lot of white people football. I'm not like the football baseball. Soccer Lacrosse hockey. Those are sports that a lot of people are geared towards, not the said they don't say basketball new basketball players that are white growing up, but that's just. That's just those sports that are more geared toward the African American community. Media so my my name is that it's not shocking that with so many. Black. Players in other people of color or other women of color playing leave that they would want support this movement in what's going on. And then they would want it to be a main part of the messaging for the WBZ when it returns with House League that was kind of the big debate with sports like Oh, how can we continue to promote? And how? How can can we continue the discussion around these issues while we're playing? That's again why some people stepped away. As why some players were saying that they should step away on Okari was the big name, but he's not the only one that a few. Players stepped away ethic was. Renamed Montgomery Tasha cloud. Desert on top of my head. I know a couple more stepped away for those reasons to fight or more Situation that we talked about a couple of episodes ago with all the way to. She's done over the last two years. with criminal justice reform. And then even Kyrie. Who everyone was like? Oh, he's talking like he doesn't really. He's not worried about that action. And apparently he's helping produce a TV. Special on what happens if Taylor so? Nessie him putting his money whereas office bs again when you have an issue that affects so many people. That are involved in league. It's not surprising that they would want. that. Reflected? When I came back to play. Again if I think that they did this wasn't almond and again the Canada Lee has to be more inclusive just because a lot of women. Especially women that plays. Especially when the play sports cow notes on that. But I know there are good amount of. Career Women in the WNBA so again. The just by buy that notion alone like they're open about is not like the NFL or the NBA where it's like Kinda, you Kinda. Keep more secret and no one race has anything after they They lead the sport is. More, math and like that There's Oakland our nope in about it, so they've as. A nature they have to be. The Lee has to be more inclusive. In that regard. So it's not surprising they'd be that. They would support issues like this like the whole black is manner everything that's going on so. It is quite interesting, though surprising that the CO owner. R Kelly would say this Gauguin. She's in Florida I'm not. She's in Georgia in the south. She's a Republican I believe so I know a lot of them are kind of have been a little pushback towards the movement. Like what would it stands for what it means bringing politics in sports in different stuff. On they've had put back on that but most of them were weren't vis vocal by most against the anti this issue where we're just like. Are we just want to stand for the flag? Stand for the ATHOL. Does show support for fighting about flag GONNA not going to go back into that so that that you heard some things like that, but now we have somebody basically saying I oppose everything that these players are standing for even players on my own team. that. Looks a little different. And the WB has a really interesting decision to make. because. This isn't like Donald Sterling level. In terms like all right in the death, secret tapes of him com, people and words and saying he doesn't want black white. His Games things like that. All kinds of stem from her Wife or ex wife at the time hanging out with Magic Johnson being around magic, Johnson can kind of all what kinds of spark this or what else mark that I should say. We. Don't have any of that, but. We don't have anything like behind. The scenes ever use the n word are disparaging players or things like that, but she's just obviously come out and give a more politically correct version of than basically saying I don't support anything. My players support writing league supporting. And that's again. That's kind of crazy when you look at it, because like, how could I ask GonNa hurt the team? Like how could you expect? Players want to come and play for you if that's what you're owner effects and I knows what she thinks again the one. Thing that I. Feel like NFL owners have done is kind of. Is being but high even MBA degree because you don't know what everybody thinks a lot of them. Just don't say anything. Again, not arise Mark Cuban. Not Everybody's Jerry Jones and everybody's even. Dan Gable re pen. The foolish letter to the Brown affected the broncos is he's around me, but most people just don't say anything. When it comes to issues, they put out A. A blanket or a basic comment, basically statement and they moving. Their hands down. She decided she was going to go an extra mile and actually gone crazy. And I said I'M NOT GONNA call it a female downside of that bad, but. She's not that doesn't look that. Good right now is just put it that way, so the WNBA has to. has decision because our. If no one's GONNA WANNA play for them. In owns to be a part of that team. A part because again a lot of people. Pass, players, current players, current players on the team players used to be on the team. Everybody's got to do something about this woman. So. That means they don't do anything about the woman. The players GONNA be pissed. And then. And then again, but if I mean I don't know how many of those fans that sport, her views are also washing. Seems like it'd be. A conflict of interest Be as even you gotta you are. A little bit about the back. I should ask you dislike for believing something different. Because, that's kind of. kind of what allows us being a lot of the conversation. Is just like, are you? Can only you're only allowed to view a lot of a lot of those type of people that come to mind say Oh, if you don't have this specific view, then now ought to speak kind of thing, and that's not necessarily to just like, don't. Like be racist. Or like support races on the radio all come down to that's. That's again. It's not a political issue just like basic human rights thing. I. Don't support it and like we can discuss other things. Like, other views just don't be like I don't want. I don't support. The black lives matter moves as like not like now like you said that like a few years ago. You without some life forward, but you have more people like standing behind you now. MBA's buzzes. Ancestors are like we're not going, I'm sorry. Nope, now's the time or place to do any of that, so if you that's the way you think then just like, why do you own the team? Honestly, why do you own the team in Atlanta a very black town or city? He Ends Joshi represents. She's a senator in Georgia so not off doors that black, but you. Co owned the Atlanta Dream in the city of Atlanta. One of the most popular black areas in the country. And you're like year now again. You've had as the one girl that was one moon. Talk that you had. been friendly with them in behind behind their backs. You're like actually I hate. What they're what they support. That seems Kinda crazy. Hesam since to make when it comes to that. We'll see kind of what happens with that WNBA players for Korn current and former one her out. We'll see if it'll be that easy again. Can't force somebody I mean. We can't force them. Is August with Donald throwing? But again they saying she never a part of the day to day stuff anyway I don't know how much. they convinced me need to what they need to do. Get hurt us. l., but let's just put it this way. If she still appointee next year I be struggled for that dream, team. Bs because. Like who's going to play for that COM? Owner, who publicly like put our name behind those statements like they came out so behind closed doors she was like I'm gonNA write this letter or the statement to the commission. Be Like Hey. This which doing now I don't like it. I just the. The the the. The the honestly not air against the. Boldness, you could argue just to be like yeah everything that everybody's supporting right now I. Don't support it and nominee. put it out in the open. I am more power to her. but yeah nice deal backlash, and like I said Damn WB is going to do with the backlash. If they don't handle this. Is viewed as appropriate by the players. Because again they are the ones that are gonNA. Really get get on the Commissioner of Chicago. shoes this up, so we'll see how that plays out but I don't imagine that women will be the owner of the team much longer. So yes, I'm going from one tough decision to another or one big decision to another on the idly. Has A big decision on their hands I think they are making the decision on their false sports. I believe when you has hearing this today, Wednesday. So talk about that. The visit may have in kind of how it's. GonNa Affect from how it may affect. I should say all all sports. In College once. The semester the fall semester resumes. So, we'll talk about all of that. We're after the break. Stay right there. Are you looking for help with your fantasy football team, check out the GMC fantasy football podcast. Get today's best advice on who to start who to sit even who you should draft from sleeper Pasto. Red Hot LINEUPS. They got it all covered for you. That's GSM. See PODCASTS DOT, com, backslash fantasy, Dash, football, football dash podcasts. We'll cover traditional leaks dynasty few PR even I impede leagues when you need fantasy help, there's just one show to hit up. Don't forget to like on facebook and follow them on twitter. S MC PODCAST DOT, com for more INFO. Okay. So! The Ivy. On of our one, not one of Bobby V. I impact with decision. in terms of what the future of sports. Um in God athletics in the fall could look like so yeah, as article about some UPN from. Heather. Ditch. Alvin right I pod did. But as we mentioned before the break, the Ivy League will announce his plans on Wednesday for Fall Sports, which could include a shortened season or postponing the season until the spring back on March tenth, the President's decide to cancel the men's in women's bathrooms tournaments, because the coronavirus pandemic is by many including some of the league's players and coaches as a reaction made by the league with different. ME. By a league with a different side of priorities I know yeah, a lot of people like Oh, like I mean what happened. Everyone was like an older like it's not that serious like it's not that big of a deal. At least not year made me in China but like. Not over here another serious. And then within forty eight hours ago, bear test positive for coke, nineteen in the NBA suspended season, and all MTA sports were cancelled. So. I'm just saying. I think. mean at least the perception is that I believe. Schools are smart. Normally you would think you would do as they do so. There seem like This doesn't look that good right now. Let's put this to a stop or like. Hey, maybe we should try this try that. He's worth listening to. Does again. They were ridiculed or cloud. It wasn't like that system was like dismissing them like like they said, and it's like wasn't. Is Not that big of a deal. Like what are you overreacting for, and then literally to later? Within within two days Everything is shutdown so. I know shocking. So then that that's kind of or become from from here and then I. Guess kind at the point where like regardless of what the IV decided to do is will this again be something that has ignored at the FBI level, or was this something that will eventually be filed? 'cause I know there's been a lot of conflicting discussions about. Whether it's spring. Football would be a good idea if that's kind of what they're debating on whether to play a ashore conference schedule order have jet spring football season with schedule, but this football season from like eight boredom in May and Lincoln riots. Come out in support of it. You said it shouldn't be wound the heart I. Know other people. In the article, but Penn State Ad. Who may have some other? She may need to focus on. I E. The, accusations, it will not actually patching, admitted it but the. The stuff that came out recently about their basketball coach might have to worry about that before you. Talk about the springfield while being lashes or as opposed to being the initial option. B. It's one of those things where we'll see how it goes West Virginia Athletic. Director says that the bullpen session just to see what's out there but I think their model different than our model when it comes to football, which is fair On the West Virginia FBI Director Shane Lyons also happens to be the NCAA Division One football oversight of the chair of the NCA. Football Division One oversight committee Is He also go on went on to say the definitely going to impact what we do as a whole, not necessarily look at what we're doing with testing protocols in safety and wellbeing of our student athletes, making sure doing the right thing from that aspect to see if we can feeling type season managing. Multiple programs shutdown. They're all season workouts for at least a couple of weeks, if not for the time being because of. An outbreak of Kovin. I mean didn't. I Know Alabama decide the hamming. They didn't confirm denied the parties, but that's. Again this spike within Alabama among the zooms nays. They said he was coming from the they were having with Parsley. Who could get which is wild on when you think about it Begins. At that's not a that may go away if you have sports. So makes it difficult to be like all right. Yes. She'll definitely be able to play. Because said they already have to. Shutdown workouts. And that's not even gonNA Games in traveling across countries and find place in doing other stuff. But yeah. So as we talked about last week, team sports reported. That is considering possibilities a complete false falsely in favor. we'll go get excuse me conduct they're. They're one of the options is for going the complete falsely in favor of seven game conference, only spring schedule, and like I said April number conclude amendment according to a report, the cops also has been considering opening the hundred season in late September with seven with a seven schedule against only compass points of the similar thing. Just like you, Kinda. skip all those early season like out of conference games. Just play just the conference games because in reality. Those matter for them. Gas can be a little bit different from most other teams because of the fact that they're trying to fight for like the. Plan and things like that, so you got to You've gotta be a little bit different, but. It'll probably work so there is that. the decision will come on Wednesday. as we talked about Paco Commissioner, says I. Don't think it's going to have much bearing what we do different part of the country. That doesn't matter. Cove is everywhere different opposed to college sports. That's fair and football. Everyone is looking around the country and taking an interest in what they do but I don't think it will is going to have any bearing on what we do. It should but it doesn't seem like a lot of corn this article. It would have a bigger. Influence on FCS leagues. just because a little bit smaller smallest on have the a massive TV money TV revenue. They stand to lose if they don't play the full slate games. So yeah, or what else? a big commissioner said they haven't been told by health officials or local doctors or scientific consultants. that we should stop doing what we're doing. Even though. In certain. states. Shine things down so. We're seeing spikes things out on how college football going on here, nor is it there? my feeling is that. In my favorites, you just keep putting one foot in front of the other wild. Until your is about idea, it's a bad idea. When. We get that advice. Safety Health and wellbeing student athletes and staff come first when we're told this isn't going to work out. Obviously, nobody's going to be resisting that, but they haven't said that to us yet. So you're? The one thing. That the American Athletic Conference, Commissioner did say he said. It's very likely that we would play fall sports. Highly Unlikely we will play fall sports if we don't have our students back on campus. If our presence chances didn't feel, it was safe to have students on campus, hard to see cobb sports happening, which is what I've been saying this entire time. because. It's wild year. We're not GONNA do. Digital or online learning, but the these affix gotta keep playing. So. We'll see how that go, so yeah, that was from. Mike. Roscoe! He touched on that. In the short term, it's possible that the IV decision resonates more with his peers. than FBI. Ex Patriot league smaller leaves like that on the question is whether. To cancel postponed fall sports, even the lowest level snowball into more. Interested. Again they athletic. American the American Athletic Conference. commissioner. said that you'll pay attention, but the Ivy League is different at this point I think the FBI has to make its own calculations and decision the I've league decision will resonate to some extent by think. We have to rationally look at our situation. Say Look came into the safely. No, you can but it's. It's an answer that FBI school seem to prefer to get on their own so basically. What is to me? Is that the other luck can do? We want we get this money, so we try to get this money until they say we can't get this. Sounds like to me again mostly how it plays out but to me it sounds like these schools like we have too much money invested in these. In these. teeny contracts stuff like that to just cancel or Postpone Fall Sports? So! We're going to give it a shot. which is again the same thing that basically every major source because doing? So, what says about? College athletics that they're being run like. the bigger leagues that are actual real businesses and these are. Pretty, much run on the backs of. Unpaid, Labor. Is An interesting one. Ambiance sounds to me that the college football is not gonNA is not GonNa care with does and then they should. I don't think that's the smart thing to do. session now you're seeing. There are certain schools not desired news rockers. In new? Jersey said that they're they're. They're going over tial. I know my sister of dunes and graphical stuff at Penn State. They're not gonNA virtual of completely, but I think she had a three in person classes in to them or change the virtual, and she only has one in person class at this moment is because they certain things. and I think that's kind of where Harvard. Got Some backwards originally going virtual, but then they're paying full price for things, and while the the painful prices complete separate point. That's a disaster. That's not the argument was that they were? Certain things where you can't do virtually you can't go to like there. Certain people I need to labs and work with specific tools and things like that you can't. They don't have access to virtually, and you won't be basically. You're saying you're wasting. Wasting which are losing a year of education, these great still count is still credit still count towards graduation, but you're not getting the necessary tools depending on your major that you're going to need in the future because again, not every major do learn stuff very specific to your job description when you get Outta College, but for certain made you, you will like I, said you had to do labs in different things like if you're doing any sort of signs or stem. Kind of thing, if you're doing anything with animals or like psychology, different things, you may have to work in labs or work with tools or equipment that you won't have access to. Virtually. was going to be a problem, so that's a separate point but yes I'm saying like there's a school that already being Mike We. CAR WE'RE NOT GONNA have classes. Then! How like happened? You say students can come on campus and play sports if it's not safe, assumes come on Campus Tiller. Like was it different? I mean that's the Jersey is bad right now with the Rhone. It's gotten I mean it was bad before mainly North Jersey by? The new. York area, which makes sense seeing as bad as new. York was. but again you're you're bring people from all over like did not just people from Jersey, go to Rucker's. International students go to venture. They're doing to them. Potentially is a disaster. People from all over fifty states. In Theory Goto rockers these breakdown of where I come from, but again it's just like people from all over, so you're you're bringing. Unless, you're going to be able to test everybody when they get on canvas, which you won't they, don't they? They won't have enough test. It's not possible. You're risking. Causing an outbreak on your college campus always get back from Get back in Sargon classic unless you. Can. have. Realistically enforce some sort of like mass mandate or some safety precautions. GonNa try. That would lower. Class is in like. Guessing stuff like that, but. Again IF PEOPLE AREN'T GONNA be wearing masks, which seems like the common thing to do when every other country. That's candle coronavirus very well That's what they shut down. They've had people wear masks in the United States have just been like. That seemed like the idea, but we're good. Kind of NCA football doings. Like what are we doing makes a lot of sense and probably works for the that they decide to bring me because we all know what they do, but this ideas bring like if there's students on campus in the spring. Already going to be there, it's not going to be hard to play the football games, and plus it will be the the weather won't be that bad like it seems like a simple solution again. You gotta figure out what he will do it. The draft and things like that but it's better than China. Play in the fall in the shut down. Like. That doesn't seem like a smart thing to do like. We're GONNA. Go about this like nothing. Go wrong. Stuff goes wrong because. Stuff is going to go wrong, and then you're like. Oh, weakness by things to go wrong. Like. How do you sound? The Bachelor, run two stop and I'm like. Yeah. But. Like you see the way it's going, you see. Like twenty plus many received now having spikes. Like? Why are you thinking that in two months? This is gonNA. Be perfectly fine. When we don't even have to undergo now in the hotter months where we're supposed to kill, the virus is just like the flu. Likewise begging not to say that I am I. Know The decorating things. Aren't that bad royal? Gems speaking, but again that's helped out a lot because the that they're testing asymptomatic. People's obviously. If you don't symptoms, you probably not gonNA. Live your life from You've read up on Texas was going on there. in an Arizona, they're hospitals are getting backed up dice. US again backed up. Is going to be a problem a couple of weeks potentially again. You don't know, but they're preparing for it to happen in in major hospitals in those states. So. Again unless something changes and you do something to stop that as a country. There's no reason to expect that they won't do anything in the fall. So then that's the case reasonably expect to play college sports. Maybe. That's just me, but. I'm just saying that the fall seems like you should be preparing as if you're not gonNA play, and then we need. We need to have a ticket. You should have multiple plan, but like the Mike Diabetes like a plan in place. In case you play in the fall plan. In case you can't blame before the the. NCAA seemed like they have a plan in place for what happens, they can play in the fall on having thought about the other side of things just like everyone. Give it a shot and then see what happens basically what the NFL's doing. Basically all sports things are doing. They're like look we're GONNA. The is shutdown guy shutdown, but we're give a shot. And I'm like. I get it, but like you should have more. Things prepared dislike A. A, WE'RE GONNA. Try and if it doesn't work, it doesn't work like no be prepared for not the work because he's a chase is not gonna work. Because we don't have under control yet. but hey. Maybe it's just me I. Don't know. and. Are you feel about the with my opinion? And speaking of things mayor now working on there have been some concerns with the bubbles that our. Monitor's as popping up. That are being put up four. or or being used to play different sports, Leagues. So kind of talk about that, some issues people are having. And just how I think it's GonNa. Play out once. All the teams are showing up. Because right now. Our team! You Win all the bubbles. Yet so we'll see how that goes, so that's all that after the break, stay right there. 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Once, they started, and then Amsoil Rats, interesting comments about the NBA's bubble and we'll talk about the WNBA. Players going through. Down there currently 'cause according to twitter. least the videos in photos have been put out it's not great. So yeah, as subway, NBA teams traveled to Florida on Tuesday NBA Commissioner. Adam silver expressed concern that potential positive current of is cases following quarantine inside the lease campus at a reveal. In essence a hole in our bubble. I've been saying this in a virtual interview. silver said that the NBA positive cases to pop teams arrive to them be a campus that Walt Disney world resort this week, but once team's arrival personnel be tested in quarantine for at least two days though it could take longer than that to pop up so. we won't be surprised when they come through when I come down, Orlando, if we have some additional players as positive silver, told fortune brainstorm health. will be most concerning wants players enter this camps and then go through our quarantine period. Than if they were to test positive or if? We were to have any positives. We would know we have an issue. we would know that there is in essence. A hole in our bubble in that are quarantine or camp is not working in some ways over added later so that would be very concerning. On silver, said. The source that any amount of positive cases inside the project campus could result in a second shutdown of the NBA season several teams including the nets who I mean they have. I think a story in principle, most recent guy. Come Down with the Rona and drought, so they had so. Him Spencer Dinwiddie deandre Jordan. All recently dropped out because of the Rona. Niclas injury wasn't challenger said he wasn't coming, and then Katie Cairo, or both the her so i. think that's seven guys, so yeah, so coyote, Kyrie, Katie Hungary Gedi the Andre Spencer Taurean Prince Claxton. And Tennessee seven guys. For various reasons already on coming down. And, at least three of them are strictly based on the Rona. Nike he wasn't about the bubble life so that that couldn't indefens- couldn't affect before people because they're on that I'm not playing. Mega said they have one more press does positive I don't know how they feel the team honestly. You can't just have you have a brand new team. For Four. Playoff position like I mean. An. Omni mentioning. Names Jinx anybody, but I am saying something happens to one of their other main players on like it's like. How do you even? How do you even have them in the League? Just drop out. because. There's only so many replacing players you can half. You're talking about. The whole different teams, not even the same, not on top of the fact, that Jock Franz on the base. It's going to be a different team down there not to the wizards. WHO Have Bradley. Beal sitting out because of a shoulder injury I believe. That teams already now like it's like the blades racial at is going to be discussing. The magic. We're GONNA get this adding just because they are the only team currently. That's like more or less healthy out of the three teams at the bottom, and then it's just GonNa be like like there's a legitimate chance that both those teams could lose. Every game at one in seventy, two six. And, that might be good enough to. Potentially have a plane game for the playing twelve eighteen mess. but yeah so back to the shutdown. The Nets Nuggets Clippers heat box end kings. Have closer practices in the past week due to the positive cases. Of the Rona. Among their respective travel groups we begin testing all our teams roughly two weeks ago when we as reported, we had a significant number of cases I. Think it's more reputation was happening around the country. Florida's Department of Health reported about seventy four hundred additional positive cases on Tuesday. The total is now over two hundred thousand. So that's where they're headed. Knock Great Silver, said the NBA campus will with dairy testing God in guidance from medical experts possible from the environment around us, which is fair. On paper in dealing with our ask, this should work, but we shall see I'm confident. Based on the part of cases we are seeing from our players and general public around the country that if that it will be safe on this campus then off the campus. That's that that's. I'll give him that. In part because of the dairy fast them. million, the virus has humbled many so I'm not going to express any higher level of confidence. Then we are following the protocols and we hope. than we hope it works as it was designed. It he he also reiterated the Lee. Will be likely not before shutdown again due to one positive case, but I mean it might offer more. So. That's already a bit of a mess. you got at one thing begging be refilled. Feel feel the team. Excuse me. And you got other. Guys or other teams that have shut down their practice facility did did I mention that? He I think imagine that he'd hold on. I WANNA double. Check that. The. Who? Does Avenue playing in Florida? They made legacy there. The whole bubble situation could be a disaster before it even starts they they get down. More people got test positive and won't be test. Pilots can be a mess and like I say that because. As I think I think dick the MLS is situation. was that people testing positive than they got quarantine, themselves and narrow dogma giving them like a week. To prepare. Potentially for our the restart of a season or Zara season against a malicious cases in the Melissa case. Excuse me. What there's no reason much placement. Athey should be or should be ready for that. But that's unfair to them as unfair to everybody, just be like all right. You've been quarantined napping able to do anything. Physically active for two weeks so yeah, let's just put you back out there and play some basketball. That doesn't seem right. At all. Let alone. Do we know how even the effects of will be on athletes that try to? Get things back started up wants a habit because again as we talked with go bear in Bonn Miller and some other guys that have had in said that it's it's it's not. Again defects by differently, but it's not like an easy thing to work through if you have symptoms like not as like all right, yeah, no I'm like in two weeks. I feel finally. Their bodies still don't feel right and again. These are the peak level athletes. In their respective sports. So, and so's nowadays justifying people badly again. Luckily no athlete has had anything fatal happen to them. But. you just saying just an example it can, it can affect the after just way can affect any other person. Like it might be nothing you might be a lot. It might be somewhere in between. And we don't really know how something between is going to affect people if they're trying to play an athletic sport. were you where you're going to need your lungs and other will mainly your lungs to function persons like respiratory and other bodily. Organ disease that attacks. That bubble if there's like I said if there's a hole in the bubble. Adult. Get shut down quicker than we would have hoped for which will be mescus again? Lasting does that as I've said since the beginning last thing you want. Is that the shut this back down? If you're doing you're doing because you think it's safe. I think the offense. What they're doing is safe. But I don't know if they think actually doing it to them a sense they. Are the best we can do. But the best we can do still might not be that safe since they're doing it. Literally interstate were cases spiking. Nothing Speaking of things that could be a bit of a mess Though the NBA claims Roy Moore I'm put out that. This is just a for the time being when you do the first forty eight hour quarantine when you first get down to Orlando some of the meals I've been seeing. from these Bubbles. Bit of a mess, they look like they did some of the some the off automatic. Was Troy Daniels in? Christian knows I don't know if I pronounced removed from the nets Jordan's of nuts but Christian hoses on nets, and the the meals they they had them eating. Look like something you can order. Off, a Delta or united flight. Am I. These are professional athletes that used to not everyone eats like the best I, but these are like they get like five star. Five Star. Chef personal chef cooked them all with them up. Something Nice, and even if it's for two days that they have to eat like this like houses the best they could get. Wild and that's NBA the. Situation is a complete mess Meals. Quite shaky! Of We don't know if it'll get better but quite shaky on meals of the laundry room that they have very small and kind of rundown house work with a lot of people being there immune to clean things. They're going to be there for potentially. a few months. And also I mean granted. A warm the worst thing you can find, but again you shouldn't. Be, in there like the first day. They don't don't have show up at a hotel or or something the first day and I find like a bug in my room. But that's not what I want to see. was Noggin. Numbers! That's what these women are finding Wnba just like like. It looks like they're staying like a motel like out like how was that? Adequate for professional athletes. Under saying this whole bubble like it seemed like again. The bubble idea is as. If you believe in Dr Fact. He says it seems like that's the best thing, is they are we need to be in above? but yeah. These bubbles comes a lot of question marks, and not just going to run. The Doug did basic amenities in the things that they need to do to pass the time just to deliver normally while trying to get through this. Weird year where it season, I should say. Against the whole bubble situation as As a bit more cloudy and muddy than we originally thought just because one bubbles may or may not work again. Look at the MLS. they got a lot of things. Go wrong with an air bubble before seems authentic. I got I. Think I mentioned on Las Vegas. I thought they had a team or they didn't even know about. They had like a team with ten staffers in players. Test positive another not with like live like it's. Brothers coming down there and then like the positives like Oh, like what do we do? You have a whole team at camp practice or can't prepare for the season to start. Expect them to be ready to go on like in like a week to ten days after that doesn't make any sense. So, yeah, these bubbles! Now, getting closer to the restart of sports, which again I hope happened but I'm not optimistic Yeah, these bubbles looking very shaky at the various. Hopefully they can get some real food once once. Everybody's down there. Hopefully, this suggest like the as Mark Stein's temporary food that you get when you first get down after that like the real chefs and everything like you can't expect athletes to function off of flight meals for a three courses the day. Like. That's not a reasonable expectation in my opinion. Mega said some of the meals you saw were a bit. A bit. underwhelming to police. From my own personal perspective. But we'll see I I. I'm curious to see how the meals look. But yeah like I said that was bad, but what the WNBA players are dealing with. Our was ten times worse. Here's look. Nice were there if they bike halfway decent. By the some of the amenities in some like it looks like they're staying in like a rundown motel. And I'm just saying I know. I am these very prestigious boarding schools I don't think. They On the they would put them up anywhere. Imagine that has be someplace nice, but still dagga mass on top of the fact that. Oh I am doesn't really officially ruled out false sports. So that happens where on the water, the wnba players GonNa Stare. What's GonNa Happen with that. Because the whole point of the bubble that no one else is around. and if there's people around, that's GonNa be a problem. With the with the Bible I think. And Think MLS or I saw this early said. Disneyworld when those when those works are coming back, they're not. They're not tesla before they get they. They start working. In terms like like the people that are in the caution stuff. So I would hope that's not the same case for the Disney like workers that are gonna be there. They're inside the bubble. Same thing with jeans anything with your own MLS bubbling Orlando hopefuls. Workers are getting tested before they get in even though again, knock convenience rooms and all this other stuff. Still. Why would you not have them? Follow similar precautions, not going to be the same, but similar precautions to make sure that you don't have you. Don't bring it. Unknowingly bring into bubble and like I said. Once you, get a a leak or a hole in the bubble is a chance is gonNA birth. And that's where we could be looking at if they don't make sure. People are bringing in to the bubble. Aren't pointing properly, but yeah, we'll see how this goes once. Team's are reporting. but yeah I think it's going be a bit of a mess. Levels. I'm this next break. We're going to come back here and discuss I. Know a few episodes well not a few years ago. I discussed like ranked the divisions. Based on wide receivers. So I figured I'd come back and do that, but this time with the running backs. Just not the main good divisions with the running backs my personal opinion. On. We'll talk about all that Rafi to break, so stay right there. Check out this show build around the women. The UFC INVICTA abstain steeped. Championship. We got the fights cover. It's the golden state media concepts. Women's May podcast. 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Hopefully it'll be better, but you really don't know Santa Michelle for the Patriots and James. White and I think REX burkhead there and they do. The trio was Michelle again the line with bad. Hopefully he'll be better. They're gonNA need him. Because I don't think they can just rely on Cam completely until it's one hundred cents are back to full health Miami Donald signed I notice I'm Josh. Josh Josh a Jordan Howard. been last season last season the Jordan Howard. In Free Agency. Sometime I'm trying to see who else is on their roster from the runningback protective. Right now so. NOPE, don't want to I. Know Position to a place. It's not the one I need They're running backs they have. Got Traded from Breda. Love better. Came Blah map. Brita Miles Gaskin for Marshall I think he was a rookie last year or maybe two years ago? the George how Patrick layered, and then Malcolm Perry was rookie as well. So? I mean that's that's a bunch of here. And then the bills have Devon Single Terry. Employ! Among other people, but Ah Devon Single Terry's mainly the guy. as there's this moment a heading into next season. And it's like. All Right? That's not that bad. But again a lot of uncertainty unfortunately. When you look at that position. Which is which is why you can't? You. Got You like if you rank them that high if you look at the? You're in look at our running backs. you also got when you go down to next division now north of. AFC, south yacht. WHO's David Johnson? Traded deandre Hopkins for. Still Wild David Johnson. Derrick Camry. who solid on coal to got Marlin Mac Jonathan Taylor. WHO's the other guy? I am hines. So again, not bad, but also like nothing to speak Jonathan Taylor's a rookie, so you can't really assume anything from him yet, but I mean. He was great early on behind a good offensive on. In at will add Wisconsin I should say so. You would think of the good offensive line with the colts should be the same thing Okay, so do Johnston to forgot about that. But I mean he's our Enin Jaguars who they only even want to keep. He's not bad, though he just like not like that, really his numbers as she rashy like not that awful surprisingly enough. Ran for over eleven hundred yards, three touchdowns, though, but still renfrew over eleven, hundred yards, three touchdowns and fifteen games like. That's that's not that's not. That at all. On, but yeah. Derrick Henry you have like. Any like lecture things. Because you don't really know before, NOT AFC west. Leave Josh Shakeups. You got filled Lindsey Melvin Gordon. WHO SHOULD BE ALRIGHT The hardest have also ECK. News not bad, but I don't know how. He looked good as the quantum co bow in the early season moment Gordon was gone. with the hold on stuff, but again going on was gonNA. Hold Up, and then when the chiefs I mean. They're passing team, but they'll use Damian Williams. Who like Clyde Edwards? Larry Excuse me. but again like saw division nothing special. the NFC north. Who's Got David Montgomery with the bears. and. Not Bad, but not nothing special. You Got Carrie Johnson Andrea Swift. With the lines again there will be down just with a rookie. Don't know in carrying drowsy got hurt last year. See I'm going to have about that from that, but not not terribly got air. Jones. WHO's very good? Obviously I think led the League in touchdown running back religion last year if I remember correctly. Cook. Very. UNEVEN AS BACKUP! As Madison's not bad. then. He didn't decently enough when. Try Spell chorea heart. And also. They draft Dylan I'm NFC. West Kenyan drake with the cardinals. among forget if. Drafted else. by no you at least got. Alexei Kenyan Drake in another traded away David Johnson obviously. drank drafted. You Know Benjamin. Lay `round guy from Arizona State. He's actually not bad, so you kind of role. He plays with them. Face Edmonds wasn't bad. He work on the giants correctly. So there's that, but again nothing too special on the rams, whoever they decided to go with with augury, not being there. I'll see him. Not being there hurts. I'm a little bit. He was hurt so there is that on, but you don't know how. They can replace him yet and then offense. That'd be a big deal for nine moster. Kevin, Coleman. guest Jerick, McKinnon. We'll be back this year. Hopefully he's the healthy but they run their volume committee. You only have one guy, but their running game good, and then with the Debussy off Chris Carson. North are penny coming back from injury so again, not bad, but nothing too special. That's what I'm saying like. You got all those teams, but then you have three. After like elite divisions, which are the NFC east. The NFC South M N A little bit behind them the NFC north so undersea north they would come in as like my third I'm going to top three. the so that would come in his Turks, they got. Joe Mixing Saad running back Nick Job. In my opinion argued top five running back. Got! James, Connor. Hopefully he can comeback from injuries He dealt with last year a man for. The Ravens you have Mark Ingram. plus I mean it's Kinda hard because like the mark. Jackson's also like the fact running back. He I'm trying to lead the team in rushing last year. And he did. He had twelve thousand yards marketing rooms. One thousand eighteen. Marketing touchdowns. Running back, so you look at the running backs division I feel like they're like a solid three because of niche of Great Joe Mixing. Who's really good and should be held out by better quarterback plus more weapons on the outside for people. Not Focus entirely on him the often side of the ball And then like I said you got James Garner hopefully you can get back because he was good. The the last year was their spelling him, but last year again he had his. issues with the injuries didn't really. Put up the numbers. You would have liked to have seen. The only ran for four hundred yards on playing games while little under like four sixty. In intend games which is is great. And then you Alex. Mark Ingram Slash so that's very odd. When you let the NFC East End, the NFC south. Things really get interesting. Because, you could argue that. One of the. That these are the best running back. Comes from one of these divisions like whether Christian McCaffrey with he will saquon whether you believe Zeke. I guess even if you believe this. Alvin Kamara like. you could argue the best running back confederation, so the top two in the east are in my opinion, the source, a quantity Zeke then got mile sanders, and then it depends on who Ashington has I think. There guy since a healthy. Then that would be. very helpful for them. In terms of like they're. They're running back. Game was again AP getting a little bit older? But. In. You have to see improved that that's going to be the case Israel that yet. Because he hasn't been healthy all time. In the NFL also, they drafted a dot to Bryce love last year to WHO's good, but the injuries and then Antonio. Gibson on from Memphis. WHO's kind of a running back slot hybrid. Think it'd be good things and also may be replaced that Chris Thompson role that they had over the last few years. So then the Washington clear the fourth best back wherever that is in division in my opinion, but the first three of Zeke Saquon and mild sanders is a very solid and then you go to NFC south. You Got Alvin Kamara Christian McCaffrey Todd Gurley. And then whoever the? Bucks chooses their Guy Ryan Ronald Jones thinking. Barbara still there now. Let me just double. Check for you guys. Whoever they choose as their fourth As they are as league. Fourth back as they lead guy because you're right now, it's round. Jones is number. One pay isn't still there. Okay that's interesting. I thought he was. A free agent. So then if you to look at if not respective, I would argue. that. The NFC East might have the slight slight edge just because we're going to this season. Like who do you feel more confident in right now? Miles Sanders. or League assuming. Assuming neither them suffer young at that who have more confidence in to have a good year Mao Sanders coming off a great rookie year with a good line and good play, caller plus weapons on the outside or Todd Gurley who? Who who really don't know, get back to form. The Bait of I will agree because was a from office to play the year. Former leading like leading. Like former best running back in the league. Arguably depending on. Who you, like. Sanders has been there yelling. been leave one year. But I think many people would like. They would have more confidence in mouse heading into this year, and you got that coupled with saquon hopefully being able to bounce back after. Injury Royal Season last year. Zeke doing what he always does. Would you just get yards score touchdowns? So even though obviously you could argue based on using thanks to south has the best running back in Christian McCaffrey. Based strictly illness again, talent wise, you may argue with someone else, but based on last season. You was A. he was the best running back in the league last year personally. This is what he's doing. The run game asking. Then, you can Alva- camera, who I believe right now is worse than zied and. Sakon personally again. He had a down year last year to think they can do more. At at their peak the game whilst he's a great receiver on great regret, runner stuff like that for running back. Bottle. Know if I could. I know Zeke can carry the ball twenty five times a game in put up big numbers. You sit in causing the pros. Say I'm Kamara, can't but like. Last year with little bit shaky Mark Ingram gone again US banged up, so I don't WanNa. Just put it all on like. He's not good. But you can't use a little a little curious. That's all. Like I, said you got mild sanders versatile girly, who I think I have a little more faith in Mile Percy heading into this next year, and then you gotta whoever washing choose where this guy sir. Whoever versus Ronald Jones. I, feel you. Power has to go with even like lash AP. I think put up. Close to? If not an even thousand last year, I could be wrong. But I believe it was. Darn close if it wasn't. Put Up, you put up like almost nine hundred yards and five touchdowns and fifteen games with. Not that great quarterback play! Case keenum was. DNA. dwayne Hassans was going kind of really came on later in the year, so that the quarterback wasn't great in line wasn't really that great Williams and the team was just turn Williams excuse me and then the team which is back so when you're down a lot of games, the defense wasn't that great. Cause injuries and stuff on development I great, so it's hard to. Run the ball while when you're losing. Does that makes it impossible to. See I would have more faith than whoever watched puts out there as this moment that I do in modern domes Though you think Tom Brady. He'll put him in. An teaches us situations to see. But. Like. I said they're not. They're going to be passing team like. I don't think they. They brought Tom. Brady the other hand the ball off to Ronald Jones Jones. They brought Bronx Gronk in Hackworth. Godwin have Mike Evans. You saw the way James was last year if Tom Can do a similar thing. interceptions. Than like I, said. I think that's the way we're GONNA run out. There's GonNa be a run first offense. It's like I said I just have more faith in them, so I think I would rank the NFC's one. Sam Bias? I'll say I'm a little east coast. My favorite team, the so museum biased bitish. Thank the the top three Mile Sanders. Elevates is game top three of Saquon Zeke end. A mile is going to be tough for any division to compete with. Consistently getting all these young ninety old zone along the second contract right now. A mile using college, 'cause. It was behind, Saquon who? Many people, saying the best running back in the League after his rookie year because all the things he was able to do. It will still say that is the best running back in the league. So I mean me personally. That are wink. Not Wake, rank them. I'll go south. I mean South Second Energies I in the. AFC North third and then like the other ones are the other ones. Not. Not As ABC's none of them are really that bad, but just like I don't think they have the cowboys running back that these AMS north is is a is probably up there to personally. Is. The nick job are not make Aaron Jones in. Cook. Those two really good running backs. By said there. WHO's a third? I Dunno same AFC north like they have nick job. and. They have the marketing room. The Mar- Jackson who of word was able and they got joe them, so they have three. And then like I said James can be what he was. Booming I solid for. Like a lot of other divisions don't have a solid four. We have a good to maybe three. Than the fourth one is gone up in the area of he west is in bad just like. You got to see how Lindsey a Melvin. Gordon work you had to see. how you Clyde was wearing Damien Williams scale you know, and he reads it gene, so it'll be fine They're playing with the best quarterback you gotta see. How often Does the whole year being the guy. And then also you got to see Josh Jacobs performed. I don't think he'll be back because the. Law Off So the AFC west buyer would have been my fourth just I. Think they have forgotten you can. Count on nights of the NFC north is Kinda up in the air, but Let me say NFC East One. Mc South to. EMC North Three. But that's just me. From here today on the s MC sports podcast presented by G S MC podcast network when a thank you for listening as always and if you haven't already. 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Tiffany Thiessen, CFB With Andy Staples, And Week 15 Preview

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Tiffany Thiessen, CFB With Andy Staples, And Week 15 Preview

"Hey what's up guys. It's big cat before you start listening to this episode. I want to let you know that we're running a special sale on all barstool merch. Go to store dot barstool sports dot com and use code podcast for ten percent off goto store dot barstool sports dot com and use code podcast for ten percent off on. Today's part of my take. We have to for friday to i. We have andy staples to talk some college football championship weekend. And then we have the legend. The legend tiffany thesis on kelly. Cabal sqi really really fun interview. It was a bucket list item for ten eleven twelve year old and we have an nfl week. Fifteen preview in the charger going right now week. Fifteen preview fire festival the week Fantasy lads are back. Let's see if the chargers can finish ever own. Server scored that touchdown touchdown are. Let me do the ad and we'll find out. I let me do the admiral shit. 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Lynn is the dumbest coach has ever been created in coaching history. Desert again. no. He didn't know he didn't. He voted again. No he got it. You got it got it got it got it. He got it he got. He got it touchdown all right all right so that's friday starting friday. Let's go and his lyman okay. Looks that was the dumbest game of football. We've ever let's let's see the replay real quick. He throws the ball out there. He didn't get in that was central. Get and that was a pretty big distance and he said that was a pretty long distance sneak from they weren't like inch line. You pass the ball anthony lynn. He's a break goddamn bird inside of the skull and now the birds dead because even the bird can't stand hanging out with. I can't believe this guy. He just wanna football game. So i guess credit to him but holy shit he timeouts were an issue again he the money badger who that's his own nickname. Yeah he gave himself the nickname the kicker for the chargers what is his name bag. Marvin michael is marvin. Marvin is the basketball player. That's bagley this is bad. Justly badgley gave himself the nickname. The money badger tried to trade market last year to make money off it then missed. He's got nine miss kicks this year. He misses a kick. Then anthony. lynn. They get interception and anthony. Lynn plays for three any. Mrs another kick god blowing at. You forgot about the fact that he used his own kicker as well but you know what they always say. You can't ice ice turns out the badgley. He doesn't have ice. he's got bath. Water in his veins got he was very easily ice. The snapper was very easily ice the the holder put down to get hold it to the left but i mean anthony. Lynn could fuck up a wet dream. He is. I've i've changed my mind a little bit. I want anthony lynn to get another contract. Because it's always good to have a coach in the nfl that you know for sure that you're smarter than yes you can watch the end of the game or greg predict exactly how he's gonna fuck it up and then and he he goes and he does that. Exactly a t. You know what. It is more than anything anthony. Lynn like we lost andy reid. We lost making any re- jokes andy. Reid won a super bowl up. The jokes are over anthony. Lynn is the heir apparent He is are like oh fourth quarter. Anthony lynn versus the clock. What one a matchup we got here. He can't figure it out. It is so he's the ultimate panicked coach. So i agree with you. I wanted to keep a job or get new job because these jokes. This is why we watch. We've watched shitty games like this. That was a perfect finale for thursday night football. We watch shitty games like this to roast people to make ourselves feel smarter to be like. Wow we could be out there. Coaching these guys are idiots. Yeah holy shit. Was this game. I mean if every coach was perfect with their clock management with everything it would be like watching a math class writer. I feel like. I was learning something every time i watch football. Sometimes i don't wanna learn anything. I wanna make fun of another guy who hasn't learned as much as i have about football. Yes yes and i think. Both coaches gruden. Anthony lengthy both just hate the concept of time during a football game if it were up to them. It's like the game's not over until either someone quits. Our mom calls you in for dinner. And that's how we determine or it gets too dark outside and you can't see the ball anymore. That's when that's when jon gruden and anthony. Lynn would like to blow the whistle for the end of the game but they they hate time. They hate managing time. Actually jon gruden didn't do such a bad job with and marcus mariota. Let's give them credit. Today was the The oregon quarterback yes derek carr Tore his left leg his his his left. Groin is what it looked bad. Those are always worst. I have a question for you. Pfc is jon. Gruden a good head coach. Yes are you sure. I think he he wants to ensure beget mic drop. He won a super bowl. Okay because jon gruden. He did in fact when He won a super bowl. Jon gruden his last six seasons as a nfl head coach so at three years with the box. Three years with the raiders. Jon gruden and his forty and sixty one. Okay that's really bad. He won a super bowl. I know but that's really bad. And this is wasn't also traded for like two first round picks. He this is. He now is sitting here a team. That looked like they were going to the playoffs. They played this the kansas city chiefs on sunday night. Football almost beat him for the second time this year. And then since got punked by the falcons lost or basically lost. The jets pulled it out because of dr heat loss. Last week to the colts got punked by them and now just lost to a chargers team to kick it out of their own way. I'm just saying jon gruden. Everyone was talking about the raiders. The raiders are. I think the raiders are one of those teams the nfl. Everyone routes to be good. Because it's fun. When the raiders are good history there are certain teams college football. You want certain teams to be back in the mix because it. It's fun so we almost will it to happen. I think we've will the to happen a little early here. Because they're not they're gonna finish probably seventy nine again or eaten eight like they didn't make big step this year when this was supposed to be the big step year a lot of that is on the defense and tonight. It didn't look better. You know what. I think mike mayock and he put a lot of money offense and then they haven't looked at the defense. You know what. I think they did after they fired. Gunther gutter yet right. So you can't get her no his spirit entirely. He's his his oral. Was still there but i think what john gruden did this week. He was like you know what we just got to execute better. And we're going to simplify things. We're going to go back to basics on defense and just run like a standard cover to the entire game. Because john gruden's brain like football is a simple game. It's about hitting another man harder than that man would like to be hit. So jon gruden is like we're just we're going to focus on tackling. We're going to improve our tackling this week. And that'll fix. The defense. Turns out that herbert can pick them apart. If you just run cover to until it's the fourth quarter when they just stop passing the ball entirely. They just thought well. The raiders didn't have that really long drive and yes dirk got hurt so a little bit of i mean i think the chargers were for the most part mariota look better than derek carr. He had a couple of bad throws but like there was a spark when mariota got and the charges were gonna probably win that game anyway because again as long as the chargers i mean if if the charges can survive fucking themselves up like three or four times they will come back and win like that's really what it is is like the charters are going to shoot themselves in the foot. Four times down the stretch. And if you don't put them away they'll eventually just by the fact that they do have some talent and they have a good roster will eventually find a way to win. Yeah you just yet but most teams if another team shoots themselves in the foot three or four times. Yeah the game's over that's at points. You got to bury him. it was. It was drunk football and it was a good way to in thursday night football for the year. We have friday night football next week on christmas. Christmas day sir. yes which. I'm i'm pretty excited about. That'll be fun but yeah this was it was. It was appropriate that on the day. Tom rinaldi went to fox. Yes we ended with. The game that made us wannacry. Oh my god. The tears always are flowing with him. I i'm actually. I don't know what i'm gonna do like the fact that i have to cry on on big noon saturday or whatever that fox pregame my god. I mean what you just did. Was you give you give tom. Rinaldi like carte blanche to just Just farm the big ten for sob stories. Urban is going to cry now. Urban meyer is gonna come. We're going to get some meyer crying on saturday mornings in the fall yet. Tom rinaldi to fox too. Big news aright. So that's it. That game was just. It was bad but it was fun because it was so bad. You know what. I do the fact that mariota you could tell that he was playing like he was gonna make three hundred thousand dollars on the bears. Yeah if if if he won that game i saw you would have made three hundred three hundred twenty five thousand dollars and a. That'd be an interesting model to pay. Quarterbacks like that i. I want him on the bears like after his first drive he looked good. Yeah i mean. Marcus mariota from what we saw tonight. He's a starting quarterback also the second pick in the draft right. Yeah and from oregon. All all oregon quarterback now i think are good. Tonight has flipped the script and bring back dennis. Dixon joey. hair. Joe harrington out there and his jeans to come again bring them all back. Yeah all right. Let's get our weekend preview. And then we have on the other side of that andy staples in tiffany and also. Billy killed his chickens. Okay before we get to our weekend preview a quick word from our friends at mcdonald's. Pf t. I saw you eating mic ribs yesterday. Yeah all day. That's the pf meal to cribs mcdonalds sprite and large fries. I actually had mcdonald's today. Too because final berg was like wants. Mcdonald's snowy day. Let's do it. we all had it. The mcrib is back. The mcrib is back. The most important sandwich of the year the mcrib. It is officially back in available for a limited time at participating. Mcdonald's delicious delicious sandwich. It's also the only sandwich. I think that has superfan. Super fans of the mcrib. Some fun facts. Some cities. get the mcrib every year but others have gone up to seven years without the mcrib. The longer places have without at the more outcry for to return there is mcrib has appeared in lots of shows. Simpson's family guy new york times vice time and more have featured op eds about mcrib. It's the most famous sandwich in the world and people have driven over state. Lines to get mcrib because it's not available in their area. What's your favorite part about. The mcrib isn't the mic. Or the rib. I think it's getting it going to get it. The excitement of the mcrib like posting a picture of mcrib cardboard boxes comes in so no cap flex. And you get the fries. Mcdonald's fries are the goat. Everyone knows that some have decided. Just find ways to make own mcrib when it isn't available but it is available right now for a limited time at participating. Mcdonald's so check out your local mcdonalds. Make sure they had mcrib if they don't say hey next time. Can you please get the mcrib. Because we want the mcrib. There's that outcry. The mcrib is officially back. Check it out available for a limited time at participating mc donald's. Ok week fifteen. Were coming down the homestretch. Some games some weird schedule gets two saturday games. We also only have three afternoon games. That stinks but we do. Have the chief saints Hank you wanted to say something. Real quick Yeah that's how you intro. A plug you're going to do the can't lose parlay. Billy has his parlay wanted to a risk-free parlay there's the pigskin parlay in the play barzal. app thirty five thousand dollars this week. Wow used to be twenty. Five was thirty thirty five thousand dollars to give all that money away from your own pocket. It's it's what i wanna do for the awa. It's my gift way to give back to you guys this season. If you win the thirty five thousand dollars we'll send you a big ass check. I only i saw that someone wanted and they had a big ass. Chen show up to your doorstep. The big check is the absolute best. That's worth worth the free admission anyway so all you have to do is download. The play bar slap. You can make your picks. It's eight games. Monday night score. If you win you get thirty five grand a big check and just all streams today friday. Pfc and big. You guys are both playing both how we get into the playoffs town playing big cats noon. No we can't his to. I mean he's playing it. Twelve cats playing at to tune into that. Make your picture play bar. That's also like three thousand dollars. If you win that money. You should call the pigskin parlay you should incorporate the big check into the name of it because that will make people want that. Check the big check. The big check challenge boom done million dollar idea topic thirty five thousand dollars. Thirty five thousand dollars. What would you guys do if thirty five thousand dollars on sunday. I'd give it all the billy. Put it on red. And i'd say billie stop killing chickens. We'll get to that. Yeah okay Let's do some football. Let's do some football week fifteen. We're gonna talk college. Football by the way with andy staples. So we'll go preview conference championship weekend. This is maybe the best football weekend we've had start to finish when you have real awesome college football games with a lot of importance and then you have some big time. Important games for the playoff homestretch in the nfl will go through them. Let's start with the saturday games. The weird asked saturday games. I don't know why they're thrown two saturday games at us. But i'm not gonna complain. But i'm going to complain a little bit because i watch college. Football pills at broncos. Did you see the beasley stat that everyone's street now that he's the highest scoring player under five foot nine and history the nfl that one. And then also cole beasley from nfl on cbs. More yards aj brown more receptions and decay metcalf more yards per reception than deondraye hopkins more. Td's julio jones more hundred yard games tyreek hill more grit than hunter renfrow as well. It's i mean that's an insane. I love those words. Just cherry picks He also has more fantasy points. Jerry rice this year fact fact. Listen colby easily. We've said the connection is fun to watch the connections. Come even more fun to watch. And the altitude where. I think that josh allen could actually throw cole beasley out of mile high stadium. I'm pretty sure that physically it's possible also. This is a game where john elway people. Don't talk enough. About the fact that john elway past josh allen. Yeah this josh allen. A quarterback was the guy that john elway spent his entire career looking for when he was drafting brock osweiler. He was in his wildest dreams. He's like this man. This tallboy will become josh allen one day and he passed. He took bradley chubb. Josh allen was right there. I think you got picked like one or two slots after bradley chubb in that larry reset instead of bringing up the mitch stat. People should. This is another one like the leonard. Fournette thing this is another one that people should talk about. Because this is. John elway's wet dream of quarterback and he blew it. You miss them and look what he's doing now I am slightly nervous about the Hype for the bills. It feels like too many people. Like i saw cowards being like they're the best team in the afc they they've they've had a bunch of big wins. I'm nervous four the bills and bills fans. That's all okay. I understand you know what i mean. I understand that still got a sneak up on a little bit. Now you have as soon as prognosticators and talking heads starts. They basically have shown up in the last week and decided. Here's my hot take. The bills are really good i again we've known they've been really good. And josh allen has been really good all year so shut the fuck up. Pay attention earlier. I understand that. And i agree with it but i think we need to recognize. We're being a little bit of gatekeepers for the bills. that's fine. we'll be lagging. Keep which which is okay like we. We have been on the bills for awhile. We've wanted them to. That's not what this is about. But i understand it does feel weird everybody else now entering our brains and seeing things through this about me. It is a little bit. I'm not saying like oh i. I was of this band before it was cool. I'm saying more that as soon as everyone starts saying. The bills are incredible. I feel like they're jinxing him. Yeah oh bro. You like the bills named three. They're super bowl losses. Yeah didn't think so four. We can if you get seventy documentarist documentary But yeah it. Just more of a jinx factor it feels. It's yeah we know and other dark horse is so obvious like the. They're not dark horse. There are really good football team but people are treating them like 'cause you know how it goes media you don't want to say the chiefs are really really good because she's really really good. It's like the warriors the warriors are really really good or were really really good. Everyone's like well. You know i actually think is going to win the title this year. The atlanta hawks. Yeah if you're like fifteen games. I like the chiefs. Why would you say something. So brave controversy right in the bills are the jumping stone. And now i'm scared but you know what here's a spin zone even if things go off the off the trail for the bills right now if things fall apart for a second. I think they've still officially made the playoffs right I think we made up to win one to win one game. Okay so if they were if they go into the playoffs then they become the team that will sneak up on the wagon rolls on and you continue to dominate people or maybe things fall apart a little bit and then you sneak up on somebody in the playoffs. Yes i want them to win this game very badly how i was thinking. You know we've talked a few times about getting bills fans vaccine or setting up a quarantine station so that they can go into or park into the stadium and watch the game. There should be like if you build it. They will come scenario where fan in buffalo needs to build like a simulated stadium in their backyard and just get a giant screen that they put down where the fields should be that some people can get to the environment of seeing a bills game from the stands. All i'm all in. I also just love this time of year watching a denver game. Maybe some mountains of snow in the end zone always fun. All right next up packers panthers at packers the panthers defense pass defense has been very bad recently. The packers though. They're ten and three. I i basically spent the last half hour trying to find a stat. That just shows that the packers aren't good turns out there actually pretty good but this one was just kinda stare me in the face. The packers ten three. They're wanting to against teams with winning records. Okay that's i mean. That's not if they wanted to go one and two in the playoffs. They will not win the super bowl. That's true. They act but they might play against an nfc east team in the playoffs. Be hundred yeah. They might be less than five hundred. No that'd be there that they would win and then they would maybe get one more win. Okay but he wouldn't. They still wouldn't win the super bowl. That's a fact so just saying it. Also yeah what about. The rush. Defense has a rush defense quietly on better soft. They're soft soft football. I agree with that. And i also have a stay woke about that picture. Going round of aaron rodgers. now there's like a two hundred year old. Aaron rodgers. I think aaron rodgers knew about that guy and has been grooming. His own looks to look like that person in hopes that one day somebody will find that picture book. Oh isn't this quirky like listen. Looks like this guy back. Two hundred years ago. This was a big sigh up. Plant operation by earn rod. He knew what he was doing. I also just a little heads up. If you're handicapping this game. It is christmas season. So aaron rodgers won't be giving. We're getting any gifts so that probably changes his mood He's a little. Maybe after i feel like that would impact them next weekend. Okay yeah next weekend. Against the titans. Box falcons falcons since the twenty eight three game. So tom brady. Has played the falcons right after the super bowl the year after but since the twenty eighth three-game the falcons are twenty eight and thirty three kinda fun Thirty three very. Yeah really bad. Since the the patriots beat them in the super bowl This to me the bucks are at this point like they have to start proving it because even the vikings games when we talked about it on sunday night the dan bailey socked and they should have bought them out and they didn't really blow out the the bucks need to have a statement win sometime in the last three weeks for me to be feeling like the box can do something in the playoffs. Yeah and this doesn't really pretend well for the for the bucks their entire long snapping unit there kicker their kicker punter and their long snapper are all on the i. r. with the cova there on the covid list. They're getting off the cocoa list before the game but to me. That seems like this. Seems like a heartbreaking type loss for tampa bay special teams the most important of all the units phase the third of the game. I'd say it's the first phase of you have to kick off before anything else happened. That's true so you've got thirty three starters off and three of them. It looks like deal with some sort of covert. I don't know if it's contact tracing the or if they tested positive whatever it is but i just know that it's not ideal to go into a division game against an opponent that loves to play extremely close matchups with most teams and then have Your kicker and the person that hikes the ball to your kicker beyond the ira. I would imagine the bucks will figure out a way to get. Alex grow designated as the official team doctor. And then we'll clean it up okay. So this guy's drink more water this week and you'll get to go. Yeah and throw the strawberry in the trash and the cova gone at the. You're on the advert. Avocado cocoa list. Because that's that's the only way that you can get corona under my watchful eye. Yes all right next up lines. Titans this Game should be a blow for the titans. Because i don't think anyone on the lions wants to tackle tractor seato at this part of the season but the story of this game and the story of all week was frank re rag now who played last game for the lions with a fractured throat A fractured throat. That is one of those injuries. There was an injury. Some catcher had it a couple years ago where they had like a dislocated ball sack. fractured throat. is up there for injuries. That give you the willies down your spine. You're thinking of the twisted test. Twisted testicle torsion. Some guy the giants and i remember felix pie had that back in the day. It's just you spin around and the only way that you can get it right. Is you have to sit in a hot bath and just let it unwind like like you're holding a bowling ball that's been twisted up on a string. He just like hold it up in the air until the string. That's yoyo jones. now. I'm thinking bowling ball. We've got nuts like mine. I'm thinking like an eight pounder. Wholesome bully ball on a string. I'm trying to paint a picture out here with the yoyo with a yo yo a yo yo yo yo strings do having that sleep in it you gotta you gotta let it hang in online wind itself. Yeah so if you have a twisted testicle you have to hold it in the bath. Like it's a yoyo okay. Then once it unwinds you basically get an orgasm once it gets back to normal and feels probably the best one. Yeah fractured fractured throat. That is certain injuries that you hear it. And it's just chills down your spine. Fractured throat is that he might play. I saw that he's communicating with the coaching staff by writing stuff down and hand signals. It seems like listen. I'm not tell someone what to do. What not zoos. A free country. But frank calvin johnson retired barry sanders retired. They realized that this was a losing proposition to be on the detroit lions. You have a fractured throat. On five and eighteen. You can sit this one. Yeah it's a weird throughout to die on. No one would blame if you sat out for the rest of the season. I didn't know that you could fracture throat. Is there a bone in your throat. Is he just have a sore throat. I know i was. I found the yeah. Was jose brave of the white saw. A okay yeah. Testicular torsion down. Yeah that's bad. That's a bad injury. I think heather brooke could ever fracture throat. Yes that was the everyone was saying. That's why she took the job off underneath. It was all porn jokes under the fractured throat. Like not even this person can do it. Yeah well you say. Billy will actually the torsion thing. If it keeps happening they actually have to. So you're nut to the side of your ball sack. that's dr it sounds libertysafe. He is he went to medical school. I my favorite thing that you do. Is you speak with such confidence when it comes to medical emergencies that i always believe it. I mean you. Diagnosed with cova dawn. Saturday night and i was like twenty four hours. I was like fuck. Do i have it. And then i realized i'm listening to billy football. Md billion rub cbd on my back earlier. And then he was like do you. Gotta you gotta pull your shirt all the way over. Because otherwise the cbd will evaporate and go into the environment menthol. Yeah killing the ozone but thank you that actually you are. You're listen billie see what they i know. And you're better than Than david shaw. You should actually start replying to his reply. Yeah with if you really wanna know what injury this was. Go to fight. Paul dot com. That's up yes i'm actually. I'm shocked at that. David chow pro. Football doc didn't start replying to to trace. Mcsorley tick talks with links to his injury analysis of his knee after monday night. All right so texans colts. I don't know just a bunch of tweets saying. Let's put to shawn watson and safehouse protect shawn watson at all costs get overly dramatic about a guy playing football and the cultural probably win at the end in some weird fascist who cares game of the week for me by is important for the colts. It's also a game. Where the colts will. It will be some stupid way. The colts win this game. Yeah it's like the old peyton manning colts against the texans. No matter what would happen the texans to kick their ass like fifty minutes. And then at the end sage rosenfels would do seven eighty helicopter. And it'd be a fumble. Six in the cultural somehow managed to win. 'cause they're gonna win this game also people who bet the over. Last time they played like two weeks ago. Probably have some sunday scary looking at this game because there were two points gordon. The second. that's me that would that would be. I two points. Patriots dolphins are. We gonna mayors bet between hank and jake patriots by the way are five and two Since two thousand thirteen going to miami. Wouldn't it be funny if cam newton was like he's the opposite of tom brady and pretty much everything because he's not gonna play football but he's really good at going to miami i can i can. I can run with that. Yeah like it's cancer. Is everything a lot of a lot of like end of the season wins against the dolphins like built up that they need to cash in on a guy like everything tom brady does well cam. Newton doesn't accept. Then you reverse it for the going to miami and went about this. How about if the dolphins win. Hank you have to give jake your pants. You know the pants the conductor the ones that look like a clown. He broke out of jail. Jake if you're older than you get your glasses tie jake's jim nance style. Yeah tie for pants. Oh how oh yeah. We should the so tight pants but also only do little syracuse and duke. You could wear some duke stuff. 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'cause i am in that dangerous territory where i actually think they can win this game. Which means they will get fucking smoked. But here's what i have in my favor a quote. He's kicked good this week. I talked to him a couple of times this week about certain things. He's a very even keeled guy. That has a history of being a terrific kicker in this leak. We're not going to dwell on everybody else's but we're not. That is mike zimmer. Somehow some way keeping dan bailey is his kitten. How i think he just. He hates him so much that he wants to give me. He wants to torture him by keeping around. And he loses all power over dan bailey. The second he cuts them he can no longer hurt him once. He's no longer under the purview. Of mike zimmer so he you keep your friends close and your enemies. Closer and mike zimmer like the vikings are never going to have a good kicker. The bears are never going to have a great kicker good quarterback also i mean robbie. Gold was great kicker. He's along there but now it's not like going into the stretch. You would put the expectation the bears to have the kicker that is liable to blow things at any minute. Nope but not in this game in this game at definitely favours you and santos and after we recorded the show it took a long time but me and big cat did sit down and we came up with a scenario where the bears get in at nine and seven and play the football team also. And if you wanna see america's bet a lot of things have well. Are we playing the nfc championship game. Two could meet you there so we start thinking about what that all right so Yeah i'm i'm gonna get hurt. I'm going to get hurt. But i'm ready to get hurt because you know what i don't care. It's the middle of december. And i'm excited for the bears to play on sunday after the season has been a rollercoaster and disaster starting five and one and being here whatever. Can i give you an honest about mitchell. Yeah he's a great guy. Mitchell that i've seen the last couple of weeks in flashes mitchell. Trubisky has been a mess quarterback. Well it's been so the key to the bears. Having success on offense is playing against really bad defenses. It's pretty much just that okay. Nagy has finally figured out the league. It is schedule only like next year when you when when are when the bears. Ad does the schedule they should be scheduling like North texas they should be scheduling charlotte and this scheduling the sisters of the poor and not other nfl teams. Because then they'll look good. Yeah i i. it's tough to. It's tough to really take away anything from from scoring thirty plus on the texans in the lines. Let's just say that. I'm realistic about the bears. I the vikings don't have a great defense but when you actually think about it they have done well against really bad defenses. Which is okay. But they're not middled. Mitchell looks average. And that's that's like a super high compliment that i can pay tone two mile. I think it's kind of fucked up. That matt nagy be you on his play card. We don't talk about that enough Like bu that has got to be very confusing to look at like. You're looking at pass. You telling future you to be you. It should be be yourself. You're so be you. it's just it's very very like you have to sit down and think about being you at that point and you're not you when you're thinking about being you not only that but i would rather matt negbi anyone but himself. Yeah any any eric. Bela yeh eric be enemy. Eric peel p. b. Bret bielema man. Maybe not he's pretty gain a lot of weight funny Yeah be anyone bought yourself. That really should have a list. like be bill walsh. Yeah why not. Just do it for a game okay. He's just right. Don't in front of be you. Yeah right yeah All right seattle washington football team. I got a stat for ups. Russell wilson verse top. Thirteen pass defenses. Three and three verse. Everyone else six in one. He's actually struggled against good defenses. The only thing that makes me nervous about this game. I don't know who's going to be playing quarterback for the washington football team and Yeah that's bad. I think it's alex smith. I think he's gonna play which is concerning to me and it would not be the worst thing if we lost this game. Is the football team. Lost game because As long as we take care of business for the rest of the season we'll probably be okay and this. I mean seattle coming to. Dc doesn't usually work out. Well if you're in row john i don't. I don't love the football team and this week i like them. I like the football team. I don't love him if that same defense that we saw last week comes out then yeah. We obviously have an opportunity to beat anybody if we get to. Russell wilson like. We're getting to nick mones but if we get to russell wilson like got nick mullins. Guess what we still have to deal with. Russell wilson not being nick mullins of him fumbling twice and throwing a bunch interceptions. Probably less likely than nick. Mullins doing it I just. I am believing i'm already believing one hundred percent that that front. Four if you're if you're gonna use all your first round draft picks. It's probably better to do it all on the defensive side of the ball Then go like the falcons and have all first round picks on the offensive side. Because if you load up on defense you can still have a pathetic offense and people will respect you. Wait a few because you're like their hard nose baldy tough to be out. Yeah we're a hard out whereas if you're good on offense an extremely soft on defense you get no respect. I have a bad stat for you. I every sunday night when We leave the studio. I do a quick look at the lines and do gut reactions. My gut said washington football team plus five and a half is the easiest bet in the world. I don't like that that's a bad stat for you. Hill is the most like a public dog because my brain is very public and the initial reaction. If sometimes i can get myself off thinking the way. The public does after like a lot of hard work and and really thinking about this things but the initial gut reaction was washington football team. Load up back up the brinks trucks five and a half this too much. That's a problem. Yeah i mean we did see the giants go into seattle a couple of weeks ago and beat him there so it could happen. It could happen five and a half seems like too many. I agree so i like it. I don't love it. Football team is gonna play team football. I thought here's kind of a high idea that i had when i took a muscle relaxer. Last night it'd be funny if people started inserting the word football like we do for the new york football giants the washington football football team. I think that'd be a fun thing to do. Okay would you do. I think it's a fun thing to washington football football team. Yeah the washington football football team. Football club just keeps his. Keep it going all right. Jags raven must so yeah. It's yeah. I think it's got legs. Just keep adding. Football's just add football's to and what we do need to figure out. What a logo for the team's going to be. I think it should be football. Made out of football player. So it's actually like a football. That is a football team I like that football. I like that. jags ravens. Who cares who cares the ravens. Just beat them and move. Move on down the line. Move on down the line with this. Just do it. We don't care this is a this is a game that we'll probably forget about in the red zone Now the afternoon sleep. This is a problem guys because we not only have three games but one of them stinks out loud. The jets being one of the a third of our afternoon. Football is a big time problem. So the jets in rams this. Just i guess the jets are fun to watch. Because it's like how bad can get. I want to see them lose in new and entertaining ways but the problem is the jets. Don't lose in new entertaining ways. They lose forty two three after scoring field goal in the first two minutes right and then they get blown out. So i'd i'd like to find you know what i'm just going to. I'm going to bet the over this game and it'll be on on the side. Yup and i won't have to waste any Mental capital two. It just put the over on there and just have humming in the background. Like white noise in this is A game that last week we had the same thing where you're going to go into sunday being like well. No team in the nfl shows seventy and a half point dogs. The jets should be so. Don't trick yourself. We all do it. I'm probably do it. I'll probably bet the jets but don't do it. It's fun but don't do it. Yeah it's fun for like the first quarter because you're covering. Yeah and it's really bad. Feel like a genius in that first quarter. You're like everyone out there. Thanks to the jets are so bad. Right guess what these guys get paid to. He's guys are professionals to the tape and they lose by fifty right and susie get out of the number you're screwed because they can never get back in it Like it was soon as this game is twenty one to three. It's over it's over All right eagles cardinals jalen hurts. Did you see doug peterson. by the way Was like we're going to look at the tape. Necessity jail still are starter. I think he's just addicted to like fucking with his starters. Y- he said basically the joan hurts was starting a week before he was actually the starter right like he won't answer a straight question of whether carson wentz was going to be playing and it can't be it can't be fun to play for a guy like that yes and i mean carson wentz. What cool places. Doug peterson gonna draw up for jalen hurts. Because it's been pointed out. But he doug peterson was great with nick foles. He has one game with jalen hurts but it looked pretty good and for some reason with carson wentz. They just don't work together. Yeah i think if your defense. What would doug peterson. Try to do is play mind games with his opponent. B like who are they going to game plan for Carson wentz or jalen hurts probably drop the exact same game plan and the bonus with carson wentz. He's probably gonna fumble the ball at least twice throw you a couple of picks jalen hurts might not do that jones is right now turbo version of what carson wentz was trying to do. Yeah so. I think that the game plan doesn't really matter if you're drawing up what you're matchups gonna look like if it's going to be jalen hurts or carson. Yes by the way. I totally do we. We totally forgot the forty niners in dallas. That's my fault for dollars dallas. Whatever well it's a game that it'll take you back to the mid nineties. I imagined that ninety-five five still funny. Bill clinton's president and everything's hunky dory in the world. Everything's great and kyle. Shanahan is way better than mike mccarthy coach. Yes so just remember that when you bet on this game how many say that's yourself over and over how many cows enhanced do you could fit inside one mike mccarthy i think three and a half yeah easily easily. Yeah he looked because he looks. Like if i didn't know who kyle shanahan's dad was. I'd say mike mccarthy looks exactly how shannon stat mike mccarthy is going to die from how tight his mask is. We're going to call it. A covert death. Oh it's crazy and his mask is not only super tight but it covers percentage wise the highest portion of his face. The nfl coach. Yes he looks. Like sub zero. It's glued on it actually remember when They did when sports illustrated was like. Hey let's let's sell even more magazines too horny Middle age guys. Let's paint on the bikinis. Yeah so you can almost see that it's porn. That's his mask is literally painted on you. Remember when when sports illustrated tried to get a little more inclusive with the swimsuit edition. And they're like we're going to try to be less sexist this year. What can we do to make it less less misogynist. Let's have athletes wives posing suits that'll add. That was tight back into sports. L. is good. By the way phil mickelson wife was. Yeah i mean. I was offended. roger clemens. His wife she was. It was a big day in the late nineties. 'cause that was basically all you got sports social. Yeah you're going to the bathroom and pastas. How little pfc really loves that. Rick reilly call. all right Chief saints are best that we thought of last year is still holding true. Patrick mahomes indoor cat not an outdoor cat indoors. he's owned three against the owen three against the spread. Yup just think about that and drew brees gonna come back with his eleven mick ribs and his sternum. Probably we don't know. But i think i think that if drew breeze comes back it's probably the saints really. Don't gain that much from having drew brees with a flexible intestinal cavity over having a fully bodied tatum. Hilter i he's gonna come back. His ribs are going to be healed. Because what isn't his shoulder injury Because he forgot to tell the doctor about that. Yeah he's like doc my ribs are fucked up and they've only been looking at his writ we. I'm trying to remember what the end game was for the shoulder. So the rib injury. Excuse me the eleven rib injury was faked because his shoulder was going to need time to heal no-no his shoulder he can't he can't throw deep anymore period but his shoulders hurt. He can't throw deep anymore even worse. So it's like. His game is so limited that defenses can plan for him being like this guy shoulder shot. We don't have to guard anything they reversing. We're like it's the ribs. His shoulders fine so once the ribs are good. He'll be good to go. Just watch just watch. Drew brees trying to throw deep. Can't do it. I just wish that his his ribs should have been made out of the same thing as his neck was when he took a hit from the niners. You remember that yeah. The all time stretchy. Gum stretch armstrong. Yeah something i guess. His ribs are cartilage and then it turns to bone around us right right all right football browns giants freddie kitchens revenge game well this is the ultimate revenge game. Yeah and coming on down the list you start at the top in this game. Stefanski and judge went to high school with each other. Wow yeah you're going to get beaten over the head with that shit on sunday night. Get ready for some old photos from the yearbook. Get ready for some old superlatives. Some practice footage so fast game. Judge obviously both went to high school in philadelphia because every nfl coaches from pennsylvania every college coach from ohio every nfl coach from pennsylvania. So that's stafford kershaw stuff right there. And then you've got freddie. Kitchens revenge game you've got odell beckham revenge game. He's not plank got colt mccoy. Revenge game got jabrill peppers revenge game and you have There's one more line line. What's the there's another one here. Basically it's like it's like game of thrones just incestuous. Browns tried to kill somebody on the toilet last week. Yup freddie kitchens over vange game like the fact that we could see freddie kitchens face in the cold being freddie kitchens. God it this is going to be great. God damned is it's going to be great favor. It favors the browns though their mutters And it's going to be like forty degrees and rainy and new york. Yep and browns. They've got experienced in that weather. Yes we is actually going to be the fuck. Yes god damn so you gotta you gotta bet on the browns then to. I'll say as a football djibril peppers. Yes real peppers as a football team fan. I hope that jason garrett makes one hundred percent recovery. That's nice covert. I wanna see him on the sidelines for the next twenty five years calling plays nodding so please get soon. Jason and i don't know is cole mccoy. So coco is playing. Yeah i think so. Daniel jones joe judge. You officially made a terrible mistake. Having daniel jones on one leg out there last week hopefully colt mccoy can fix well. They got around that. By saying like daniel jones had a new injury injure reactivated. Yeah he's not ever aggravated to begin with god. It got it cole mccoy. With brown the weather is really. What's pushing me over the. Yeah this is going to be a weird is going to be ugly game. I feel like maybe. I'll just take the under sunday night. Unders feel like they hit All right that is oh. I have my can't lose parlay vernon there vernon revenge is. That's what i was thinking about. Thanks jake hand. 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Correct part of my take is brought to you by logic creek kentucky straight bourbon whiskey bardstown kentucky forty seven percent alcohol by volume allergic reminds you to think wisely and drink wisely and now. Here's andy staples okay. We now welcome on a a good friend of the show recurring guest andy staples you can find him at the underscore staples you can find his writing on the athletic he also has the andy staples show with friends Which is a great podcast. Great podcast art Huck we've never been on. That show is it. Are we not friends friends. Well we're trying to launch the friends. You guys are welcome anytime you one fact. You've now made a huge mistake. God now i'm gonna techno every time again. They got trapped trap myself. I didn't want to tell me the rose bowl doesn't matter. And i don't wanna get into that. It's actually agreed rose strategies perfectly nice place football game. I don't wanna hear national championships. Do all right. I have a lame take for you going into college football championships saturday. That will probably piss some people off some fan bases book. That's what college football's about. But i am for the first time going into championship saturday. I m rooting against chaos. I do not want any chaos. I think the best four teams are very clearly alabama clemson notre dame and ohio state. I do not want to talk about trash. texas 'em and they're only goodwin being against florida. I don't want to talk about st losing by seventeen louisiana. I like cincinnati. I've been repping cincinnati. I don't think they're one of the best four teams. I don't want chaos. Is that too lame to even say out loud. That was pretty much the entirety of my tuesday night show after the rankings came out we we kept talking about like. Are we saying we want shock. 'cause i feels like a bad thing to say it feels like a stupid thing to say because what's better than chaos filled championships saturday. I mean james brown and roll left to beat nebraska and the first big twelve championship game Case state media oklahoma and that. Big twelve game Just michigan state meeting ohio state. The pizzas seen on a golf cart. After that i mean that's the sort of thing you want out of a championship saturday. But you're absolutely right. You don't want that this time because that's a really nice playoff. Think about those. Tv matchups. yes we're not. We're not programmers but bam ohio state. Now i think some stuff your three and four might find their way to get changed a little bit. So maybe get bama notre dame clemson ohio state how this would be so mad that would suck for notre dame if they were were undefeated all year. Beat clemson the regular season play in a championship game which they don't wanna do because they don't want to be in a conference and then ended up drawing bama on the playoff salary. Whatever is played that would suck for them. It would but for us to not have to watch the third installment unless the national championship game. It would be wonderful. I mean the flip those around if they want to but they should flip those around if they want to. The ultimate chaos scenario would be for notre dame to beat alabama and then for clemson to beat to beat ohio state. And then for clemson to beat notre dame in the championship game that would that would be ultimate chaos when it comes to like rooting for a little bit of notre dame pain to get you through the wintertime. Well that'd be the ultimate chaos scenario though i think is is not well. It's pretty far fetched. Okay notre dame beating clemson is not that farfetched. We've seen it happen once so if that happens somebody else's getting it whether that's texas a and while it's texas probably as long as they beat tennessee because i just can't imagine like iowa state sitting here at six but even if they beat oklahoma you're gonna put the team that lost the region cage in the playoff. Wouldn't it be oklahoma. Though wouldn't oklahoma state being is the fuel to get oklahoma. All the way up. I thought about that is the oklahoma catapult. I just don't think thinking about it that way but susan's kirk earnings best win soon as curb street. I like kirk got on front of the tv. On tuesday night. I think it was in being like oklahoma's playing better than they have played in the last five years. I was like up up this. This smells right. Now they're already starting. The oklahoma is the in contingency. Because they don't want to have an go to the playoff and score seven points and get their fucking ass kicked. But here's my question. If you're gonna do that why don't you just make it. Usc their undefeated. Like a high rate is and if they beat oregon. They're still undefeated now. Look i've watched every usc game. I watched blessed minute of arizona state game arizona game as an old person. I love that. They have a kicker named parker lewis who apparently cannot lose. but i just. I can't see this team. Play as alabama right. It would be a bloodbath right. If you're gonna make you continually played at least make it that one not a this lost iowa state in case state already. Yeah yeah i. I think we'd all be ruining a little bit harder. For the chaos scenario if usc was further up there it is. It's looking at am and being like if this is our option than just gimme normalcy. We've had enough chaos surrounding this season. I'll take yes watching christmas stories seven times on on christmas day. And then the fourteen match up of alabama notre dame clinton ohio state in the playoffs. Gimme a little slice normalcy. That is our red ryder. bb gun. Absolutely yes i just. I can't stand. I feel like i am is not that good. I just really don't think they're that good. They've struggled with some bad. Sec teams and that does matter to me. i. I know that's not how the committee always looks at it. But the argument is ohio. State hasn't played enough games. I get that but when they have played bad teams they've kicked the shit out of them. And that matters too bright like that should matter whereas an mp vanderbilt by five. They beat mississippi state by fourteen. They were a pick six drop away from auburn beating them not a good arben team so i think has not been as impressive as some of the other teams that we're talking about. I don't let you take us up with casey smith. Because i'm sure you no. She's heard plenty about the aggies in the office. But yeah i'm with you on that. But the thing is. I think a an has one path and one path only in that is alabama clobbered florida in notre dame. Beats clemson but the thing is if notre dame does clinton. I think they're going to be in an would be in because i just can't picture who else they put in are now. Here's what here's my question. This we talked about the other night. I struggled with this one. Because we're solely basing this on the this year. I mean look there's no non-conference really except that we know that is better than the big twelve. You gotta go all i test. So if you're just using the eye test to loss clemson with two losses to notre dame jeanne versus one lies in davos compromised this is you script dabble has spread out. Yeah but i'm telling you right now. If i asked you guys were if i asked somebody makes the number who's better cleanser texas m going to say of course lew shaver sheet tablets. He has it's like a break glass. In case of an emergency he loses to notre dame. Somehow on saturday night his will hand him this sheet of paper and it will be all the talking points. You just said all of a sudden tab percent dabba will be. He'll do it big gambler guy. Yeah he'll become like the biggest believer in las vegas for one night in one night. Only he'll do the I think he did. This was it might have been dabbled. Did it might have been sabe knows kirby smart yes where he said. Ask them who. They'd rather play where that becomes the thing like. Hey asks 'save and if he'd rather play clemson or say that should be the deciding factor. This has always been my my thing. You've got to have this method of choosing number four number. Four is kidnapped. The coach of the number one seat as soon as the committee goes through the way they do the rankings. It's like one through three. And then they move onto three thousand six so soon as i got one three. And they've got a alabama number one. You press the button and the team swoops in and grabs nick sabin they inject him and i'm sure there's some sort of formula that requires you. To tell the truth. You know cream pies directly little debbie cake coke and and you say coach saban. We're trying to choose between ohio state and texas am. Who would you like to play. And he's kind of. I'm given the aggies and go all right. A has done is the easiest way. Yeah i like it too. The only thing is like he is so far into his own coachspeak coach brain that he would probably say the team that he would rather not play as being the team. He would rather play against. Because i think the is nick. Sabin can out think a lie detector test one hundred percent certain about that but i do agree so i i wanted to remain in this top four however it would be funny to see dabba freak out if he got leapfrogged if clemson dropped. That's the only. The only has gone from the sympathetic figure former alabama walk on folksy off shucks to basically the captain of star killer base. Grandma dabo and nobody gives them any sympathy. Anymore has no sympathy. Anybody thinks he's still that guy from years ago. So he will he will turn on the shucks as soon as that happens and it's not going to land the way he thinks it it will and he's a great coach and he deserves everything that he's like a very very good at what he does. But it gives me an enormous amount of joy to see him struggle to figure out reasons. Why he's being slighted weaken and week out is amazing because it was so easy for so long because you had alabama and everybody was saying oh alabama is the best team in the way clinton beat alabama in that national title game after the eighteen season because that alabama team looked invincible and clemson just crush them. Now we can only think of clemson as a team that could potentially crush everyone. Yeah so he can't. He can't ever play that card again. He's he is screwed himself out of that. So here's one that. I had this discussion earlier this week and i know the answer to it. But it doesn't sit right with me for two beats alabama alabama's probably still in. Does that make any sense to you. That makes no sense from just a going forward. They never happened. A team loses. The conference actually happened in the in the bcs era partly two teams. That hold on. Kansas state didn't go to the national championship. But oklahoma did right. But i'm saying florida would not most likely and bama would so this out there. Florida wins clemson. Beats notre dame state trucks northwestern who the four tips so. I thought this through an initially. I was like okay. Well that's easy. Alabama still in and eight gets in because they beat florida right but then thinking wait a second now you have a situation where all three of them beat each other. We're bambi and m am beat. Florida and florida beat alabama. That's very similar to the two thousand eight. Big twelve south scenario the differences. That florida has lost. Lsu sitting in there too. But i think the committee which the only thing they've ever been consistent about as they like goodwin's which is one of the reasons. I think iowa state is where they are because they have a really good winningest oklahoma. But what would be the best win. Anybody had florida over alabama. So i think they would just pick who they think are the two best teams out of florida alabama at eight and put those teams in and singled him. They both they both have weak weak spots. And so i'm going to. I'm just thinking you know all through this here. If they just. Florida beat alabama. That recency buys make kick. Ed like okay. We think florida alabama the best two of those three. So they're in so ohio state would be out. You'd say no has statements. Point is if order salad samo. Yeah no you're right. It would be okay so then that would be the death of the college football playoff because it would be the sec educational. Yes okay if it winds up being that way whether ohio state even if it's northwestern winning in an upset and knocking ohio state out if it's an acc sec invitational. We're gonna see in eighteen playoff sooner rather than later. So maybe that's yeah. That's what we should be rooting for. Because i think everybody wants to get to eight. Eventually i think see i disagree. Eighty i think they would go. Alabama clemson notre dame and ohio state. It would basically keep it that it would be wrong because florida would have just beaten them. And that's where it would sit wrong. Is that what you can't deserving at that point it's a it's a good win lest we forget. Yeah last week. I know the shooting going losing losing to a team that you had no business losing to you. I mean that's got a matter to so it's interesting because the point that you're bringing up it's like florida's best win would be over alabama but then that's also giving alabama credit for being like that's the best team and they beat them. So how can you say that. Alabama shouldn't still be up there right because they're the best team at that point is going to be whoever wins clemson notre dame. Probably right at least for but okay. Let's say is there any possibility that that the voters think to themselves like florida yes. They should've blown out. Lsu they didn't they lost because some guy threw a shoe. Can we just in our own minds when it comes down to nut. Cutting time of florida beats alabama. Can they think let's just pretend that. Do not throw a shoe twenty yards down the field and the and pretend that that was a win you know. They say that they take everything into account like. They take injuries a new count. If they take shoe throwing into account absolutely who knows maybe some of them believe dan mullen they believe it was a true football. Move right and i look. I got my she right here. It's a size thirteen nike. It's not a size. Fourteen like margaret wilson through. But i mean if it was a right shoe. If i'm not mistaken it fits very comfortably in the palm of your hand like it wants to be thrown. Does when you get it in your hand like this. So i really think he was. Maybe dan was right. There was just acting on instinct. Should be allowed to throw a shoe. I don't think that it should be against the rules to throw a shoe of a person. You just tackled if the shoe comes off during the former tackle. What if you took the shoe off sort of ami tackling that. He pulled his shoe off. I think as he's tackling. You should be allowed to pull the shoe as azer tackling after you hit the ground. The whistle blows. You can't take the shoe off at that point but if it's off it's anyone shoe it's whoever's i if there isn't immediate recovery of the shoe. You're allowed to throw it as you want immediate indisputable recovery shoe. You can do whatever you can put it anywhere you want. You can hide it if if if if pull you holding. A shoe survives contact with the round. Yes can you still throw it. Yes yes it's your possession. Absolutely i i don't know why you're not allowed to throw a shoe honestly. No one's explained that to me. I'm supposed to wake up in the morning and knowing what if you need it for next play of the game. It's like throwing the ball out of bounds. You know after a dunk and then kicking the ball after you. Dunk it in basketball. That's more florida fans as they as they know. Brand spikes had the the interception return. For a touchdown repented into the stands right through flag on easy solve the bcs. The bcs inevitably loves money. Have a shoe timeout. And you play a quick twenty second commercial. He come back whatever. Whatever shoe company sponsors that team rights to have an ad random shoe that was thrown and then twenty seconds. Later you run the play. Everyone's happy about nike missed out on. By the way because of that fog in gainesville can you imagine the shot of the shoe arche through the air at swoosh would have been like two tournament tiger one where you saw the nike swoosh on the ball as it fell into the cup perfect. So you've you've you've been dabbled and reveal in this interview good job oh god here. We missed a box. Darren rebel by the way you wants to box john. Paul i wanna box rebel. Yeah i think we can do it for charity. he could. He could place a giant bet on it. He can hedge that bet if he wants to buy that. That's my dream. So darren if you're listening. Let's make this happen to he. Always someone sends flips it up all right. Here's another one for college for for championship. Saturday is there any score. That clemson can beat notre dame by that would keep notre dame out. I would think it would be like four touchdowns or more and nobody would have to basically score like seven points because it. Yeah they'd have to look completely helpless. And i just. I don't think earnings built like that. I think you look at the way. They beat clemson. The first time where they dominated both lines of scrimmage they shut down clemson's run game and that's the sort of thing that travels. That's not there's nothing fluky about the win the first time so that would really shock me if that was the result. Yeah okay What is your favorite non big game this weekend. Coastal carolina louisiana. That game was unreal. I i'm i'm gonna i'm gonna put this out here i know. He's not fullback. But coastal carolina. Senator sam thomson. He's five nine to ninety. Yep if he is not the epitome of the low man trophy. I don't know what is yes. I want him considered for that award. This year okay. We tell you what we're doing the voting next week so we'll be in touch to get your Your final three. Then we'll have shortlists at that point. Excellent down but as i'm going to make an executive decision and say yes he can be. I'm gonna yes. I'm going to allow him into at least the shortlist for the lament trophy if gets enough votes did you. Did you watch the coastal troy game. I hate coastal carolina now. They went from from darlings college football too. I hate these guys because what they did by scoring and thirty five second we needed to know and dpi faking injuries for the entire second. Half of the game. They did it literally. Choice last drive you. You saw it. It was it was fairly blatant. It was very boy. I guess you gotta you gotta do better than that. It's sort of like wouldn't it cal- a few years ago where you could actually see the assistant coach on the sideline. Yes now down like that. It was it was a land well linden dickerson. The alabama offensive lineman who flopped in the lsu game yup on that level of flopping. Yes it was bad i just. I don't know that bothered me because troy was alive dog. They were doing well and i. Just can't that's push. I will tell you bothered coastal carolina. They were playing troy in the first place because louisiana. Lafayette was sitting at home resting up for that game. And the ac's let and clemson and notre dame chill meanwhile here's coastal carolina carrying the flag for the dang leading. You're going to troy alabama. I the place that used to be called movie gallery stadium back video. Stores were thing. That's pretty good. I love. I love the age of covid for college. Football these storylines where like tulsa for example they're playing cincinnati this weekend since nice. Cancel on twice how you hit. He cap that because they canceled on him homecoming and senior night right so they gotta be. Sadly they shouldn't get their to touchdown underdogs in cincinnati thing. I mean shouldn't cincinnati pissed. They started out as number seven in the first one. Al franken and it's like oh we're actually going to give a group of flying team shot. And then they don't play again. They have not played since the saturday before that i ranking they beat. Ucf on that saturday. They get ranked seventh. And it's all right. We got a shot. And now they haven't played. Since they gotta be furious would try to beat tulsa by thousand if i were yes. Yeah it's also tells one of those weird teams. They never die. They've been in. I've watched all their games just like every time you think they're dead. They come back from the dead and do something crazy. Andy i gotta talk about Some sec coaching carousel news. So the rock rock at the university of tennessee in knoxville. The rock that said choose joy on it. It was painted on their on. I believe december thirteenth choose. Joy is written on the side of the rockwood said fireproof. Fire pruitt's save. Ut football hugh freeze tweeted to one of his friends. On december sixteenth choose joy. My friend is hugh freeze sending illicit messages. This time in the broad daylight on twitter as opposed to with burner from has said that seems pretty. Explicit is is hugh freeze sending these messages indicating that. He's going to be the next coach at the university of tennessee. I think he'd like to be the next coach at the university of tennessee. I think that's a job. He's he's wanted for quite some time probably since before. He became a college coach back when he was still high school coach. So i think that is if if that opportunity came available he would jump at it. The the question is is tennessee. Fire jeremy pruitt. And you know this. This games interesting is such an emotional sport you know. Tennessee doesn't have a ton to play for right now. Needs to score style points. I guess i don't. I don't really know it matters if edem score style points or not. But they're probably gonna try to and so if that game goes the way. It probably should go the tennessee fans that look we gotta do saw and hugh freeze can win there. He wanted miss you. He beat alabama twice at ole miss. Hugh freeze can win at tennessee. He can get good players. He'll run an offense that will score a bunch of points in that will make tennessee fans happy because they've been watching some pretty hapless offenses last year so if they decided to make that move it would get them what they want. Yeah i mean he he would be a home run hire. I know that there's no such thing as a home run hire. 'cause jim harbaugh was a home run. Hire but Cost yeah there's a lot of home run hire. I've i was thinking about this. Andy we have you see all these contracts. See the buyouts. Gus malzahn making twenty one million dollars to basically go away right. Ten point seven million dollars due january twelfth crazy crazy buying an island. So why hasn't a college football program done this. You see it with The incentives of you beat your rival you get to the college football player to be ranked number one. Why don't they do the reverse. Why is it no team ever done that where they say. Hey gus if you loose alabama that's a million dollars off your pie out if you don't get if you're under five hundred that's two million dollars off your bio if you know what i mean like that seems like a no brainer to decrease these insane buyouts when all these teams end up holding the bag for coach. They don't want anymore well here. Here's the problem is so you guys follow every sport so you follow baseball so you know like value over replacement player. The the problem is most can't recognize when they have a replacement level coach more when they have a special coast. They think they have a special coach if that coach just one like two games. So that's the issue. Sometimes coaches have to say you go ahead and walk. They just tell you. Look i know you're guy thinks he needs five years on his deal to recruit. But i don't wanna give it to him and if he'd like to go somewhere else by all means please go somewhere else and i will hire someone else. your friend and mine. Holson ran into this situation at west virginia shane. Lyons ad said you know what if you can get a better deal somewhere else. Go for it. And he got a better deal in houston and he left and west. Virginia hired neil brown and it seems like both parties are pretty happy with the way it all turned out. Yeah what about what about University of texas so it the ad said herman's our guy he's coming back. That's me screams replacement level replacement level coach. Then the most vague way of saying he's our guy i mean. It was so vaguely worded like people had to call and say you mean for two thousand and twenty one not not for like tomorrow right and they said yeah for two thousand and twenty one. Okay but so. Here's the deal with herman. If you're gonna hire a sitting head coach after you fire tom. Herman all told you're talking between thirty and thirty five million dollars. There is nobody that guarantees. You're going to get what you want. The one person out there who can do this is actually texas in a similar situation. Two am when they fired. Kevin someone where it was. Go get jimbo fisher or else go get somebody with a with a national title on his resume or else at there was no plan. B while plant v. for texas is. Keep tom herman. Because if you can't get urban meyer who seems like he's staying at fox then. There is nobody who guarantees which you want. So are you gonna spend thirty five million dollars for someone who nominally might not give you what you want. Might actually be a downgrade right. And that's the issue they have so when he when he put that out there and that same that wasn't him like just testing the waters and sticking his finger in the air being like. Let's see what the boosters want. I'm going to be a little bit vague about this. By each he knows what they want they. They have been very loud in what they want. They they want someone. Who isn't tom. Herman but i think crystal county is clapping back at them and saying okay then who cristobal. Staying at oregon. He just did his extension today. The board approved it. Are you gonna hire matt campbell from iowa state. He might not even want the job. I mean he's a mid western guy. If michigan were to open he really strong candidate for that job and also he's never had to recruit in the fourth star five star arena. That doesn't mean you can't just means you don't know if he can or not. You're going to james. Franklin from penn state. that's really expensive. He had a bad year this year. It's really hard. Sell anything at this point because you. You just can't get somebody who guarantees what you want. yeah I matt campbell. I i love. The idea matt campbell. Maybe stay at iowa state and becoming the bill snyder of iowa state. Is there any chance. I two more questions. One's a pick but one is. I really want to go to michigan. Just because i feel like that would be hilarious. He's ohio guy through and through and it would be like just that feels like it would give the rivalry some juice back. I think we're going to keep harbaugh which might be the right move. But is there any chance that luca would ever become a michigan man that it is the type of job i think he would take and i think he'd be really selective about what he do but i'm not sure if he could do it. I'm not sure if the maze in blue might burn his skin. Yeah i envisioned that. There's this he's got like a group text with mike vrabel and john simon. Where they're just like. You're you're going to coach michigan dude. You're and he's like no. No no no fuck i man. I'm a book. I i just can't i can't picture That's what that's what would make it. Great all right final question for me brought to you by cross country mortgage america's crazy good mortgage company to see 'em lens dot com slash. Take to learn more about your future. Home-buying experience or refinancing needs equal housing. Opportunity give us a pick that you like this weekend. And also Will alabama win by thirty. Plus i do not think alabama will win by thirty plus. I actually think the win by forty a lot. Better game out. Florida than than we saw last week now. I don't think floor gonna win. But i think you saw florida at. Its worst not taking the game seriously. You'll see them at their best taking the game seriously. I just don't know that they are talented. Enough to beat alabama. I'm worried about my to clears here. Yelp against the region cages yup. They went on the road and beat him and our top ability. Neighbors held coach. It's all it's a three point spread now it's at coastal surf so that that means that that vegas basically thinks there even if they play at a neutral site. So i'm gonna go with raising cages on this one okay. I liked that pick. I like that pick. I think i think coastal won the super bowl against byu which was one of the game of the year unbelievable. I never ever want to hear college. Eighty telling me that we need ten years schedule a game. It was awesome on that game on two days. Notice it was like. Hey y'all in provo. Dr alway across the calmly south carolina. And your byu semi and play football jerk. Why not i mean it straight up. Blues brother's mission. From god stuff. Yeah if you can do that you can schedule a game. Nine months out well now in defense of the other side. Byu probably wouldn't wanna do that again because they lost and they were ten favorites listen. The surf does think it. does it. Tasha beaches right there magic. I post that you happen to be playing. But that's the problem though. It takes two to tango. And i feel like there. There are so many. There's a million reasons why like these big teams and byu's not one of the power. Five teams will say no to something like that. See i think texas ross bjork at texas. Am because of the you know the the view you have of the aggies. I would be like listened. Ohio state michigan play. You come on down to kyle field or we'll come to columbus. Let's get this done. Yeah last week. That's what should have happened. But now we don't have state except that no because it wouldn't help them at all but the challenge should be made and then everybody can make fun of them for ducking it. Yeah yeah we. Although i do like the the tweets that are like in twenty forty two like texas christian is going to be playing oregon state. I love those really hope. I'm not it gives me. It gives me the comfort. Just know that other people are planning on the world existing in twenty two years. So maybe maybe i should do the same. I feel like you've got the rate right. Alex fifty. I don't think you should look pass. I don't know like six days. Yes all right will. Thank you andy. we're rooting against chaos. Even though if there is a little bit of chaos as long as am doesn't benefit from the chaos. Yeah yeah. I don't. I don't wanna see a an get killed by alabama like that just doesn't appeal to me unfortunately my whole flip three and four. There's no way you can justify doing that. If a adams four right perfect type video for the for the playoff system it's going to be salt in my wounds. Yes yes all right well. Everyone check out andy's a podcast any staple and friends and you can find him on twitter on the athletic. Thank you andy. we appreciate it man. Gentlemen thanks andy. Ooh okay before we get to tiffany thesis and Awkward from our friends at discovery discovery. 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The math say by. The bell was very important to our childhood. But i wanna talk about deliciousness because food is more important to me at this point in my life What i can tell you grown up because it's more important to me too. Yes yes exactly your priorities shift so delicious you or your foodi to begin with you hosted food shows. Do you have cookbook as well. I do have a quick. That came out a few years ago. I had a show that was on On cooking channel and food for a few years for dinner at as and got this. So what can we expect from deliciousness. Because i i read it. I watched the trailer. It's going to be like Rob deer decks ridiculousness. I wanna find a way to get on now. It is technically literally a spinoff of ridiculousness which is exactly why i was sold on it. Because my husband is a massive fan of ridiculousness. He's like if you don't do this show. We're going to have a problem. So i signed up right away. I was totally in for the fact that it is all food related for me made it like perfect for myself and i have never laughed so much on a job ever. I'm surrounded by really funny people We have we have a blast. Watching people do really stupid things whether it's at a restaurant in their own kitchen or just drinking way too much so i. I like the idea that a lot of cooking mishaps. I imagine like around thanksgiving. You'll get a lot of deep fried turkey being dropped in completely frozen. That's always funny to me. For some reason. I even though it's a guy basically setting off a bomb in his backyard. I always laugh when. I see turkey mishap. I haven't anybody family because it makes me feel more normal right because we're all we all feel. Sometimes i feel like even now this year with the pandemic and people at home. I think people are more at home cooking that normally cook and i. I can't imagine the amount of videos that we're going to get for next season just because everybody's phone doing stuff that they normally do in the kitchen. Yes yes. I'm i'm very excited for this show has so your career looking at the whole thing. Have you had any moment where you've looked back because you know we know the history of child stars you were a little bit more than their child star star but Sometimes it doesn't go. Well you feel it feels like you have a great rest your career and also like a normal. You know tiffany birth. Decent is a normal mom. Tiffany yes to amazon. Is mom wife. All these things have have you back with. Like wow credit to me for being able to to navigate that because the numbers were stacked against me You know. I don't know if i technically do that. But i definitely feel very blessed that i've been able to continue working I say that. Because that in itself the fact that i've still been able to work and make a living at what i've been loving doing in my career. My whole life That huge for me. You know i come from a very you know. Normal family in my terms like my parents are still married. And i'm married a pretty normal guy from texas and you know like but again what is normal mean right like i don't even know what that means really except i just try to lake. Live a fun filled son easy life and i've been i've been very fortunate and it's all been perfect. I mean i. I've had my My job didn't go my way or had a job that i wanted really bad that i didn't get that's life though right. Why did you decide to drop amber from the name. Was that like a conscious decision where you wanted to start getting a different roller. You want to lose any sort of association with work done in the past or it's funny. It had nothing to do with me personally. I'd always gone by all in the full name since i was little. But my agent. At the time when i was transitioning from Say by the bond. I had just gotten into nine hundred one hour and it was right there during that time. She felt like it would just be smart of me to drop the number and just go by tiffany theon so i went what she said. And that's what i did and my husband actually makes a joke all the time that he's taken it so he's action really yes. I read that. I was catching up on on some of your later career here. You were in a hallmark. Mini series called pandemic defeated the riptide virus in australia. Funny yeah do you have any first of all where were you. Have you eaten any bats recently and then follow up question. Did you learn anything from doing that. Movie where you're looking at today in american. You're like we could really learn from my character until now sadly did not learn anything. But i did go back and look at those pictures which was really funny and figured. Hey if i had that costume. It would be such a great halloween costume this year. You know but when. I shot that mostly here in los angeles weirdly enough. I remember it had a french. Stewart was my partner in crime in that movie. Great guy funny. Funny guy love him and faye dunaway was in the movie. How crazy is that. You saw the future riptide virus drift. I feel like everybody's been watching. Those was yellow and cobra. Breakout was outbreak outbreak. That's the monkey atom bomb. The city is crazy movies. Yes i think that if they call the corona virus something more scary like the riptide virus and had a person with australian accent talked about it. We take it more seriously like that. Sounds publicity. cova does is not as good as if it had a better name. These have a name like we're gonna fucking kill everybody on the planet. I think people would take really attention. Please be careful assistant wearing a mask. Yes yes This kind of a weird question but was it like. Did you consciously know at a certain point in time in the nineties at like. I don't know ninety. Five percent of young boys had a crush on you like more than a crush. Like you or The center of our lives not weird. Not weird right now. I mean you know not not weird now my my sort of past and i don't think i really realized it during it. It wasn't an and i do remember. It wasn't until march colin. I would actually. They started getting us to travel around the country and then we actually ended up going to europe to do like those mall. Signings like you know like when new kids on the block was basically doing at the time and so we were doing these mall signings until then that i realized the impact of the show itself because i would see how girls were with him and then i would see how boys were with me and that was really kind of the turning point of like. Oh this is kind of weird. This is kind of crazy you know. And then a fan mail started getting a little croupier that process. And then like i also remember like then transitioning into nine to win l. and then playing a role that wasn't as sweet and i remember like again sort of that next sort of sort of wave of of different sort of fans kind of grown up with me but also older ones and then i remember like conversation that i remember people like howard. Stern's talking about you. And i'm like you know like it. It's definitely evolved into different sort of ways in my career. You know depending on what i was doing. I also think that in this is just a theory based on just my own brain. But the name kelly capacity was a hot name. And then when you find out that the actresses tiffany amber thieves. And you're like wait. That's even hotter name. What like i remember being like was that hot just because it was hyphenated amber. Who's just like. Oh my god. This is crazy like this. Is the hottest team ever. So i think that also got people like because usually like if your name was ruth or dorothy people were like yeah okay. Kelly capacities hot but dorothy. Whatever dorothy season. Who cares tiffany amber. That was hot like that was big time hot. Well thank you to be creepy. I just had to tell my daughter to get out of the room. I will tell my mother that you approve good. Did you ever run into people who are like who expect you to be married zach real-life yes and that's so funny like my. This is a funny story. Someone my my. When i got engaged to my husband and then got married. My father in law right had hats made for the entire party of he's from texas raised from houston and the entire part because he had read an article saying who the hell is brady smith. She should be marrying zack. Morris right so he had actually hats made for all his dude friends that are in the wedding that said who the hell is bracing our wedding because of that very thing that people were like. Why isn't she married. That thing is though mark. Paul and my husband have like this sort of grow mance going at supersedes any sort of relationships that i had with mark paul being like truly is like a brother to me but they love each other so much. It's kinda scary. Well if i chance to be friends. With zack morris. About like i. I'm very well. I'm mario lopez guy. Okay that'd be like get out of your air is weird knowing that like you grew up on tv and even passed by the bell but like is it. Do you watch yourself back. Do you ever are you able to do that. I mean of course able to do it. Do i want to have now. So you're not able like. I wouldn't be able to do. Yeah i have other things in my time. That i would much rather do the much saved by the bell. So have your kids done it yet. Like have your kids started to watch it. And you're like oh here we go not my youngest. Of course. he's only five but my daughter has watched just like a few episodes of the for of the first season. And i have to be honest. It didn't it didn't peak your interest. I mean she laughed because she's on me at her kind of like a little bit older than her but But i don't think it's the tv that they would want to watch the stuff that they on that flex is much more engaging than the shit show would not stand up today. I don't think so. I think the episode. Jesse would still stand up that to me the episode where she got hooked on trucker pills. That's one of the top. Three television episodes kids with adderall. Tonight that literally is looking under. So i'm so frightened. I'm so excited. I'm so excited. I mean goosebumps. You talk about goosebumps. Yes sir. What is your favorite thing to cook. Oh gosh i don't know if there's a favorite get requests all the time. I feel like i'm a an actual. You know chef at a restaurant with my family half the time. This is what they want. This night is what they want. That and i like short order. Cook but You know pizzas definitely want homemade. Pizzas are always on the list for kids. My husband again from texas. You always want some sort of neat smoked on the on the smoker. He's got a you know he's always want something something that that that way Trying to be outs like enchiladas. Like that's a big one. That's always on the list. Beat a famous dish. So that's what you need famous dish. Well you just need to say it's your famous fish and everyone will go. Oh my god. Yeah tiffany tiffany famous dish tacos and pinpoints me to only cook. One thing things. I'm multitalented but when you say it's a famous dish and then everyone eats it. They have to like it like you. Were basically insinuating them. Like if you do another cookbook. Throwing a famous dish. Just a little tip. How 'bout this tiffany amber venison. Ooh and then you just co whole a whole shitload of eat. What have you done that would get you on your own. show who what you can't deliciousness. What have you done in the kitchen. You thought you thought. I was saying like who do you think you are. Know what if you. I understand the question. Sorry i didn't. I didn't understand it. I mean i've had my food fails for sure. I've had a couple of times that i've had a little too much Urban you know at a at a sushi tasting. That i remember my husband having to rip my pants off me because i was like i was with my husband but i mean there's quite a few thankfully none of them were on video. I mean i set fire to a dish before Thankfully i kept my eyebrows There's there's been a time where i nothing in. My kitchen was working. So i had to use my neighbor's kitchen for thanksgiving. I mean i have millions of stories. Where do you wanna go. Yeah you should have salt bay on the show. Remember him that guy. that was just cancel. Just yeah are you. Are you looking out for the theory tonight. You guys do know. There's a reason why he does that right because awesome. Yeah he just wants to not because it just looks awesome. If you actually salt your of to close your salt-and-pepper tend to only go in that. One specific direction. If you go up higher it actually falls so it actually seasons your be much more equally. I show and it looks cool. Yeah it's added bonus. I thought he was just like a little bit markers. Joe but it actually. There is a reason for the. He opened up a restaurant here in new york. And we have you know obviously like world class restaurants including great barbecue here. But the one place that i really wanna go assault based restaurant and just walk out just to spree. He can sprinkle salt on an empty plate for me. Give me a bill for five hundred dollars. Happy and you take. I'd absolutely take it now. I'm starting. I'm starting to understand more and more about you during this interview. Segui yes you also so just a tip because we live online. You need to be ready for fake. You need to be ready for fakes for people who are trying to fake you guys out because that's going to start happening. Yeah well. here's the thing. There's a disclaimer. That happens on the show. Because i have to do the video for at every single time that says you cannot actually put. You can't actually submit videos. Allah do we have to find them. So i think they're pretty legit about the videos that they find okay. We should actually put billy trying to cook a stake out there out. There pours beer on everything. Yeah our interns. The worst cook ever. So i'll i gotta help them out. He's really really bad so we'll will. He likes to let them meet talk. So what that means. If he doesn't season anything he doesn't believe salt he just he rinses his. He lives in a bar. No life he's got a couple of chickens and some frogs that we won't discuss. Yeah he lives in a barn wants to change that he should learn how to cook could tip. We can definitely very easily get billy on deliciousness. Great tip I'm gonna read a quote for you. Can you tell me if it's creepy or not This was written by a thirty two year old He said america needs all recent. This is somewhat recently a year. old man all right. He wrote a memoir. America has rolled by like an army of steam rollers. It has been a race like a blackboard. Rebuilt in a raced again reminds us Of us of all that once was good and could be good again. Kelly capacity did just that some things are bigger than sports and your first crush will always be on that list. I think ends sweets. Okay on i a little like. Where's he going. And then he ends very sweetly. So i'm gonna say he's okay. What was the tanks rolling you cried. He also this same writer. Who's a coworker of ours Actually in the in in maybe the greatest written series of all time he ranked all the saved by the bell episodes corresponding to their tears and steakhouses. I'll really yes so like you take an episode. Then you're like that's outback. Steakhouse episode iv man. Take it in. Its peter luger's so maybe that's a perfect. We need to maybe have that breakdown that could be on deliciousness. That's interesting so he takes every episode relates them to an actual meat. Sort of its. Yes a very confusing ranking system. Very confusing and i'm utterly because in the again like steak houses. Those are subjective to right so one person might be like. I love outback. And i hate. Ruth's chris but he. He put the outback episode. Eras man phetamine one Yeah it's very confusing. It's very tough to do. I had one last question for you so everyone should go watch deliciousness. Tiffany thiessen is in american legend. I love you for life. Non creepy way. Sorry about that if that was creepy. But i love you for life. Is it true that mr belding set on his balls and you guys had to stop production. God i don. That's my husband laughing. I i've never heard this story on the internet. So the day that i wasn't i hate to do this. I hate. I hate to ruin the surprise. But it was mr belvedere. Oh was that mr mr belvedere balding. Okay got it got. It was mr belder. Have you just like running. Hollywood circles going all these parties. Have you heard that question. That mr belvedere sat on his balls and they had to suspend no but i do care. That's what happens with you men as you get older your balls start decide not easy to do. I sit on my man. That's all right. So i was wrong but i for some reason as a balancing bears thing. Why did i think it was mr belvedere building. It's it's easy to very similar very simply during the same time. Those shows were both yes and time. Now you've got a great anecdote. If you ever meet mr belvedere well and we we also got. We got a definitive answer. I don't know if he's still around. That's actually something to look up on. Yeah we but we have an answer. That mr belding never sat on his ball stopping production. Say by the bill now. I'm not saying that he's never sat on his. I'm mr belvedere. How he's definitely got. What is his name. What was his name. Mr belvedere story. A documentary what. Mr belvedere goofed around to find it out mr belvedere. Imdb you can usually figure it out. Oh here when did mr belvedere di to two thousand one dead for a really long time around august. Two thousand one. She got a bad time to leave. A lot of shit. Went bad after that. that's true. yeah. It's not a time to bounce out all right mr belvedere legend to the end all right. Well i'm excited for the show. This has been a thrill if i could go back and talk to like ten year old self. Like what the hell did you just do. So again not creepy. I wish you had like just a tip like next time. Tell us your husband's in the room because he's kind of like he's kinda cock blocking us here now. I know he's cock long and this total fans and so he's actually more interested in just listening laughing with you guys than he is. Checking up on me i promise. Okay all right. We'll tell them what's up. We can chill sometime. Was a who who what's up. Who the hell is brady smith. What's up here's brady smith do. What's up your wife is cool. Are you wearing a shirt with your wife's face on it. Yeah you are. That's a simple move. Yeah i believe you married that. Seventy i would ask simp- that hard always allow me. What's so i just didn't enter for entertainment tonight. And they had him interview me because you know and this is what he walks out wearing. I'm like yeah. I love it. I love it. it's purchase. You can find this i love. that's gotta be convenient. It be super convenient for you to be married to somebody that has their own merch out there so you just go out and buy that anywhere online. Yeah but he actually had. This made your face on. Yes what's one you could. Just you know the photoshop and face on there so center view. All your faces on a t-shirt. Yeah i was gonna say. I don't own that shirt already. 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That's like jay cutler. That's why knew what happened. Basically your chicken out get eaten by a raccoon. So that you could be like guys remember the jay cutler side window so he could be like if i did this to two j. Yeah i killed my chicken for. Yeah you saw. The jacobscall is a master troll and he only follow conor mcgregor's wife and your chicken on instagram. And you like. I'll went up. You bro no. But i definitely i'm going to be looking for whatever killed his chicken. It might be like it could be a fisher is when oj. Wrote the book. Like if you know. If i did. If i did it i guess what you can find the chicken killer by looking in the mirror anyway. Leading everyone at home. That's fucked up. Like i'm not like hopefully people don't think i'm actually. Oh yes right got never do that. But the ba- okay. That's different weight but also let's talk about that because that's highly illegal what you have bats healing battling. Bats is extremely after what they did with the courage to kill bats. now they're endangered is subject population okay. He down mosquito bites. What about get mosquito bites if you're locked down because of the pandemic which also was the bats that's true extra schroeder's bat. What about the trash panda. The i mean. I'm gonna i think in new york state. You can gio raccoons. You don't have to kill records. You can just have a heart traveling and move them but in some states you actually have to kill them if you catch them anyway. I ching guy killed. I'm also killed. That's excellent use of the chicken out to will probably footprints in the snow because he killed stearns chicken away. That's weird bill. You're wearing cowboy boots. 'cause it's not wearing your regular shoe always This is the first time. I've seen wearing those shoes. That probably have the footprints in the snow to kill my chicken. I didn't get much. That's weird that you choose today of all days. Different layers areas of foot of snow. Do you have know. What do you ever be begun. I have a pellet gun. What's the difference between a pelican and bb gun shaped pellets. Please tell me you just at least shot chicken before you decapitate. I didn't catch. Did you eat the chickens humane. I'm definitely going to beginning or did the chicken die in vain while i'm going to find the raccoon because he's gonna kill runs with its head cut off. I know i was. There was head next to found the head the different places in the body. Oh okay next. To the halfway across the yeah. Wouldn't you're shaking like one for you to have eaten it after died for gains i. Actually the chicken buys frozen solid in it outside so that whatever did it comes back for it so i can like see what you will go home tonight and i will try to find footprint no doubt be whatever did it coming back for it anyway. I didn't like that's fucked up yeah. Rei fire the facts. As you suggest. that's fucked. I didn't suggest that like other people did. I'm just reading the internet. it actually happened stage. What actually happened. You killed it though like talking to us part. I kill the choke you. It's funny how you put up way more of a fight to accusations that you killed your chicken as opposed to the ones that you finger to right like no one which one the first one is going to be one of the other. What i figure my frog yup okay. Let's see didn't kill your chicken. Nope they go see frog. Fucker have no one will believe that just admitted to it. Anyway in this crazy load. Have billy like being interrogated for real in this crazy. World of the internet like people actually might think that right someone. You can see billy admitting to a murder after solid like hour and a half of would i be forty five minutes advantage vanilla milk and just give me a dumbbell guys. You've been nice to me. I'll tell you every seem cool. You didn't kill your chicken. I thank you hank farthest Yesterday i was on the train on the way into work on wednesdays. We come in early. I as you know. I'm not a morning person per se. I was sobering it lately. I was on the train. And i would love to know what you think. The words per se mean per se. I don't think i'm thinking. What do i think. I think the way that you think. As a person as other people say per se as as as one says what doesn't mean grammar teacher. I'm just saying that's that's actually great definition. And if you need to single out a particular element of a bigger thing so you might say. The song per se wasn't about choice. It was your singing voice. That was atrocious itself. Billy's flat right. Here's a it was good. Yeah it's fine it's fine. It's not a morning person per se. There are other morning people out there. You're not one of them not not at all anyway. I was on the train suddenly anyway anyway. The i was on the train and anyway i was zoning out listening to music my train had stopped. I didn't realize it until like it stopped for like fifteen minutes. And i looked up like i must be at my stop soon. Realized stop for a long time to my head out and that was like it was like. Oh you know. We'll be delayed. We should be getting on shortly and so at this point was like probably like five or ten minutes away from being late but i was like it. They said it'll be shortly waited another ten minutes and then it was still like. Yeah we're we're delayed. We should be going shortly another ten minutes. And then i realized that we're stuck and i had to get out get a cab. I was laid. It was an issue. And i was zoned out. So the good rule of thumb in new york is if you see anybody doing something on public transportation you follow that follow everybody else. Because i've done that where i'm like. I'm smarter than everyone. I'm going to stay in this because it's bound to get going real soon. And then i end up looking like a jackass as everybody gets on a better faster train. Yup so just just go with the flow. Be living without zoned out. Wasn't i was looking my phone. I looked up and everyone was gone. I was like oh what were you. Listening to. Housing to music caller. Daddy probably no. I don't listen to podcasts. Tough to stand up wearing sweatpants. If you listen to call her daddy catch metric. All right to your villages got my fire. Fest is my back hurts. I fucked up my back. I woke up on wednesday morning and couldn't really stand up couldn't really move To sign when you wants to turn like i did. I hurt my back. Once you turn twenty seven it just your body goes to shit. So i couldn't stand up. I couldn't move the only way that is really comfortable. right now. is laying down on my stomach on the floor. So that's fun. That's how i've been spending my nights on am starting to get to shooting pain down my right leg not fun. It's not good. And i don't know what i can't go to doctor now. Because every doctor's busy shooting people up with five g. yeah so. I don't know i think i just got a gut this one. I've been taking muscle relaxers at mercer. Her lower back lower back right probably have a bulging disc yet. You said that. Like a pro I have one too. Yeah bedrose away. That's one of those phrases that every sports caster is fucked up at one thing bulging disc. I don't i don't know what to do. it's going to be a it's gonna be a long december. You have to start stretching like all. So that's that's probably the worst part is i've asked people for advice. Seems that in order to make yourself feel better and have this not happy and you have to do a lot of work correct. I want i want to just like take a pill or put a patch on or just have somebody like. Don't do this exercise anymore and have it be fixed. But it's like no you have to actually exercise and do things with your body to make your body not hurt anymore. Which is it sucks. It really sucks. It's shitty two days. Yes in your future. You gotta do it all second to affect you on the on the jenga court. Yeah maybe probably going to have to lay down on my stomach in between turns like it's like this has been the longest that i've sat up. Erect since this has happened it sucks. It's the fucking worst back injury. Sheila worst billy walking on my back like bad lucy. Liu now is just rubbing cbd on my own. Have them walk in your bag and you probably have a must. Its muscle thing. Not a skeletal. I think it's a skeletal thing. If it's your lower back and everything you described. Sounds like a disk. Sciatic is not part of the skeletal. No the disk. A bulging dislike basically. Hit the nerve so you have to do stretches it will slowly go down and then it will be with you for the rest. I can't just take drugs. Yeah all right My okay billy you okay for my back Mine is already alluded to ability. Convinced me i had it on sunday. It sucked that's okay. I had i had food poisoning. And i told them i had food poisoning. I puked twice. And then i was fine on saturday. Night and bailey was like all the chinese food. The only reason i said you said the chinese food was good. No i didn't say good. You said the other people who aided dink at security only when he got sick and you also we're forgetting things. I forgot my password. Who in the morning to my computer. That i then got physical in got it right. That was that was frozen. So i was like all those little tykes diagnosed me hard before that. Now i've been. I've been walking around with fucking thermometer. My pocket all week just taking my temperature every day. Ninety seven point nine nobody'll cold blooded. Yeah billy also said muscle aches and backaches or sonoko. Maybe we should get a different doctor. Maybe we should get different aside yet. Nineteen year old. Yes i think we should get a different doctor. I think that's what we're finding out I'm not dr jill biden. Yes bill all right phil you've got fire fest Yeah at one less. Hey i just realize whisper because our okay. I didn't in your promise. You can't hear us right now i knew. What are you saying headphones. Thank chicken. I cannot posted social media. Five sex candy leases also with high is bad. What point says because everybody whistle every whispers when other people are whispering nelson. The lights are off everybody whispers. Some reasons are glad about the back of our stolen. Yes yes absolute. I guess we should have been doing this without his headphones yet. She's really pf desert with an assault and all right bill Yeah oh no gps. Gotta this week in sports. Let's go have five to all right there We mentioned your coach. Jim boeheim end did you do. I'm on. I'm on my last pair boxers and i think the place i send it to is closed because of the snowstorm we sent. Oh i don't have a washer dryer. Yeah yeah biondi's twenty twenty one. We got an email beautiful so you'll give a sink. Yeah w- what about turning them inside out. No use the best part. The snow is that you can wear your long johns underwear and then you save on doing laundry Now there's some today. yeah Jake long. Johns are high athletic shorts. Yes so perfect. I were all the okay. I don't think i wore an actual pair of underwear from the time. I was twenty until i was like twenty two just athletic shorts free ballin. it'd be Yes san sports history. December eighteenth twenty seventeen mississippi valley states dante scott hits a floater inside the paint against grand canyon in the second after cut his team's deficit in twenty two to twenty. Whoa i remember that. Let's hear comes back out. Chuck lock scott. I was wondering if it was going to be good or not. Good no shot. Oh yeah i was like. Is he gonna make this. What was it a good this thing. Oh yes sir. All right we're back. Oh yeah yeah. Don't worry you're good sun you can do no wrong. Would've jake actually killed bitlis. Chicken plot twist. Yeah oh that's my other. Firefighters actually lizzie. Mcguire movie got cancelled. How was really looking forward to hillary. Duff back role celebrity. Crush does too much really for sushi. Did i hockey guy i. She's married to kings player. Thank you kick your ass though billy. He's hockey tough. All right number one hundred again. I'm going ninety. Nine stressed thirteen ninety nine hundred. That's fucked up nine reasons. Eight eight eight hours combat. Thirteen trying not to get it though. Sixty nine but then cow. Oh i just saw ninety nine paying close hang thirty five. Feel like we've had thirty five before he's flying v-shape because the weakest flyers are at the end of the which has the least wind resistant. That's actually not true. They take turns because they get tired. Yeah yeah i would say their weakest. You would always fly. Dave because because my ass at the front of the bill you would know avi if you saw if it rubbed itself under knows you're not allowed to call people these anymore twitch las vegas eli anyway me. Don't say survey a off anyway. Hey hey who.

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