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"seth panel" Discussed on Felonious Florida

Felonious Florida

13:00 min | 1 year ago

"seth panel" Discussed on Felonious Florida

"Waves. The first day of the trial is already dramatic as the testimony draws to a close Broward, Circuit Judge. Dennis Bailey calls the attorneys to the front of the courtroom. And the jury sent out. Judge Bailey tells the lawyers he had been observing the jury during the testimony of an early witness and noticed one of the jurors had fallen asleep. The sleepy juror has to go. Judge Bailey says and the prosecutors and defense lawyers agree just hours into the trial and one of the carefully chosen. Jurors has already been dismissed. On day two of the trial the courtroom. Theatrics continue as a police. Witnesses testifying the courtroom doors open and a bald stocky man with wire framed glasses walks in and takes a seat in the second row directly across from the families of the victims. It takes no time at all for court deputies to recognize that Panella and for the judge to immediately order him to leave the courtroom. The law is clear anyone who was a witness in a criminal case cannot watch the proceedings until after they are called to the stand and Seth was a potential witness for both sides. He was not welcome in the courtroom when prosecutors sat him down for a deposition in twenty eighteen Seth declined to answer their questions pleading his fifth amendment right against self-incrimination. But when judge Bailey ordered him out of the courtroom Panella was anything. But silent I was thinking that I could go in there. And just and listen, you know, because. I was opposed to start my trying to and I found some evidence that week before my trial was going to begin. And it totally turned his case around. So may seeing everything that was that was hidden and not revealed and lied about. I wanted to come in and see are they doing the same exact thing? But they wouldn't let me come in. Because I think they know that the prosecution knows that I do have very valuable insight into this case because I lived in breathe it for eighteen and a half years and instead of buying cupcakes. Cookies Honey buns by law books. You know? And I understand it. I understand the law. And I I just wanted to come in there and see for myself. It was if it was going to be the same. And I just wanted to see it from the other side because I was on the on his side, Mr. bar side CNN I just wanted to see how they were operating. This are walked in. I sat down next thing. You know, deputy got up made a big scene in front of the jury. He's like, hey, hey, you gotta go. You gotta go. I mean, these are professionals. They've been doing this a long time. That's a no, no. We know how to go side bar. We know how to. Not to get the jury out. But again, it's the game within the game. You know, I gotta believe that Jesus. Some of these bailiffs been here thirty plus years. They know not to call the scene if they tell everybody before trial not to call the wider day. And you know, they have pictures, you know, they they had a picture of me outside of the door for you know, of any bail of sees me or any armed guards. He's me don't let me in like what what did I do like, I'm medicines. I had I've never caused a problem this courtroom. I never ran. I never threaten anybody. They don't want. The jury to see the truth. They wanna see, you know, they don't want the jury to see me free. Because then what it does is make make people doubt. Doubt the state's theories. So the the bail of told me to go, and I mean, I know I know my rights this is a public court. This is anybody from the pub who come in found not guilty. I wanted to stay in there, and I didn't wanna leave. I wanted an explanation. Why am I being tossed out? So the judge asked the jury leave. The judge asked me leave. And I asked him why? And judge then told me you're on the defense, you're on the state's witnesses and the defense witness list, and you're not allowed legal legally to be in the courtroom because your witness. I said I I mean, I understand the legal the legal delete will block that was put up by state. I understood that, but I still wanted to object for the record because I believe I should be able to be in there. I believe it was a tactic by the state, and I told that to the judge I explained that to him. And he let me know that you're you're. Your objection is noted for the record. And I did tell them, you know, I did make make a statement. You know, you guys don't want to jury see the truth. You guys don't wanna know that Mr. Chuck Morton frame me and hid evidence, and nobody wants the truth here. He asked me to leave. And then I respectfully left. The courtroom drama of the first two days is over and the trial settles into day after day of gritty testimony on day three of the trial. Jurors finally see the grainy video footage that until the DNA discovery was the prosecution's most damaging evidence against Pablo. The brutal scene plays out in front of the court, including enhanced still images of the moment. One of the intruders were veal's his face to the camera later, an assistant medical examiner walks. The jury through the horrifying fatal injuries to Butch Sharon and Marie Murray's mother. Margaret looked straight down as autopsy photos of her slain daughter are displayed on an overhead projector, which is daughter who was ten at the time of the murders. Takes in the testimony and images betraying. No emotion. Then the DNA evidence is shown to the jury whom in a seer an analyst at the Virginia lab that did the testing explains the results that show Pablo's DNA on the t shirt. But Pablo's defense pushes back suggesting that the results could have been tainted by cross contamination touch DNA is after all a new technology and the evidence being tested is decades old. The new DNA result are damning. But if the jury can be given a solid reason to question them Pablo Mamie that much closer to freedom. The defense just needs to present the jury with reasonable doubt. Then the defense tries a tactic that sat panel for us during his retrial, the one that led to his acquittal they go after the surveillance video that all those years ago seemed to show a grainy out of focus Pablo Eibar at the murder scene in early January, rare Evans takes the stand. He's a facial recognition expert from the United Kingdom hired by bars defense team to examine images made from the video Evans tells jurors that a careful comparison of Pablo's features to the man seen on the images proved conclusively in his opinion that they were not the same. Person. Prosecutors for the state of Florida emphasized that the facial recognition expert was offering his opinion. And it was they say a personal opinion rather than a professional won the state even counters with its own expert who concludes that it's impossible to be sure. Whether or not it was Pablo Eibar on the video. In fact, prosecutor Morton argues, it doesn't matter after seven weeks of testimony. What really matters is the forensic evidence. Pablo Eibar left his tee-shirt behind at the murder scene. Worn says, that's the entire case published lawyers repeatedly attacked the DNA results reminding the jury that the evidence could have been contaminated and possibly even manipulated and they make a more emotional plea. It was after all Pablo Eibar who requested the DNA tests on the T shirt eight years earlier, if he was the killer, why would he want investigators to keep looking at such a significant piece of evidence, quote, only an? Isn't person someone who knew he had nothing to lose. What have even considered testing that shirt? Again, Pablo's lawyer tells the jury prosecutor Morton pounces he reminds the jury that Pablo never ask the lab to test the short against his own DNA. It was the state of Florida that made that request who was right. And what did it all add up to that would have to be for the jury to decide at the end of the day on January sixteenth closing statements end. Judge Bailey gives his instructions to the jury and orders them to begin deliberations sequestered behind closed doors. They work for an hour before breaking for the night. The real waiting will begin the next day and for both sides. It's an excruciating day. My name is Tania Eibar I have been married to public for twenty years. This is not it's not easy. I think this is alternately the hardest part of all of this is the waiting now. Again, you this has been given to twelve people. And now you have to wait for them to make a decision, and that is just very unsettling. Tanya was Paulos girlfriend at the time of the murder and has steadfastly supported his innocence. It's obviously been very difficult not anything that. I when I thought about having my future. And you know, when you're kidding, you think about you know, I'm going to be married to this person. You know, we're going to have this, obviously, this was not in my plan of books, but it's this has been very difficult. But aside from that I've had obviously a lot of support. And I think just in general and myself, I tried to remain very positive and try to save ERI strong. So you know, my life is definitely been far from easy. If anything it's it this situation is just a. Very difficult situation. There's so much that, you know, you miss out on there so much that, you know, the average of what people are doing on the weekends, and, you know, enjoying family. We're going on vacations and things like that that you do with your spouse. Obviously, I I don't do those things, you know, I've done a lot of going to the prison visiting public prison, which is not the way you really want to spend your weekend. Seth panel knows what it's like to wait for a jury. He's done it three times before. In the cases, Nickelodeon murder case, it's gut wrenching. He can't eat. It's hard to sleep. Even though you don't get much sleep. It's just, you know, you try to think positive, but it's you know, you you don't know which way you'll never know which way Jerry speaking, I went through three jury trials when you think, you know, you're it's totally opposite. So I kind of gave up on trying to think where the jury is. And you know, you look at it be an innocent person. And having been convicted before and knowing where he's at sitting there, you know, being innocent man, I understand what he's feeling what he's going through like Mike gonna go back to it. I, you know, you know, you look at the numbers I was twenty one. And I mean, he's probably forty five forty six also and it took him from two thousand six until what two thousand nineteen thirteen what almost thirteen years. To get another shot. So it's like, you know, you don't got too many more left in you when you're forty five, you know, the pill pellet processes long drawn out. So you wanna go home, and it hurts your anxiety everything. Dieties were being felt on both sides. Debbie says sitting in waiting for a jury is breathtaking never know what you're going through the five and gosh, offend five six miles and every one of them have been different though, you never know. Right. And you why you help because if you've been in the states or long as I had everything that I have learned that the jury has never been told. And that's the thing. But it is talented when you're the family member, and you have been sitting in Florence and listening to tech on the outside. The jury to know that jewelry will not know them of those things really and insta- liberations. The jury asks to hear the DNA testimony again, it takes the entire morning of Friday January eighteenth. As the waiting resumes, the Aries abound. What was the jury listening for brother? Michael Eibar wonders where they try to convince a hold out to convict or to acquit. What were they discussing the deliberations room at six PM Friday? The jury sent a note to the judge they're done for the day. They want to return to the hotel where they have been sequestered since deliberations began. It could mean that they reached a decision and want to sleep on it. It could mean they're split and tired of arguing it could mean anything deliberations resume Saturday morning, but not for long less than an hour into the day. The jury sent a note to the judge they have reached a verdict. Charlie

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"seth panel" Discussed on Felonious Florida

Felonious Florida

13:00 min | 1 year ago

"seth panel" Discussed on Felonious Florida

"Waves. The first day of the trial is already dramatic as the testimony draws to a close Broward, Circuit Judge. Dennis Bailey calls the attorneys to the front of the courtroom. And the jury sent out. Judge Bailey tells the lawyers he had been observing the jury during the testimony of an early witness and noticed one of the jurors had fallen asleep. The sleepy juror has to go. Judge Bailey says and the prosecutors and defense lawyers agree just hours into the trial and one of the carefully chosen. Jurors has already been dismissed. On day two of the trial the courtroom. Theatrics continue as a police. Witnesses testifying the courtroom doors open and a bald stocky man with wire framed glasses walks in and takes a seat in the second row directly across from the families of the victims. It takes no time at all for court deputies to recognize that Panella and for the judge to immediately order him to leave the courtroom. The law is clear anyone who was a witness in a criminal case cannot watch the proceedings until after they are called to the stand and Seth was a potential witness for both sides. He was not welcome in the courtroom when prosecutors sat him down for a deposition in twenty eighteen Seth declined to answer their questions pleading his fifth amendment right against self-incrimination. But when judge Bailey ordered him out of the courtroom Panella was anything. But silent I was thinking that I could go in there. And just and listen, you know, because. I was opposed to start my trying to and I found some evidence that week before my trial was going to begin. And it totally turned his case around. So may seeing everything that was that was hidden and not revealed and lied about. I wanted to come in and see are they doing the same exact thing? But they wouldn't let me come in. Because I think they know that the prosecution knows that I do have very valuable insight into this case because I lived in breathe it for eighteen and a half years and instead of buying cupcakes. Cookies Honey buns by law books. You know? And I understand it. I understand the law. And I I just wanted to come in there and see for myself. It was if it was going to be the same. And I just wanted to see it from the other side because I was on the on his side, Mr. bar side CNN I just wanted to see how they were operating. This are walked in. I sat down next thing. You know, deputy got up made a big scene in front of the jury. He's like, hey, hey, you gotta go. You gotta go. I mean, these are professionals. They've been doing this a long time. That's a no, no. We know how to go side bar. We know how to. Not to get the jury out. But again, it's the game within the game. You know, I gotta believe that Jesus. Some of these bailiffs been here thirty plus years. They know not to call the scene if they tell everybody before trial not to call the wider day. And you know, they have pictures, you know, they they had a picture of me outside of the door for you know, of any bail of sees me or any armed guards. He's me don't let me in like what what did I do like, I'm medicines. I had I've never caused a problem this courtroom. I never ran. I never threaten anybody. They don't want. The jury to see the truth. They wanna see, you know, they don't want the jury to see me free. Because then what it does is make make people doubt. Doubt the state's theories. So the the bail of told me to go, and I mean, I know I know my rights this is a public court. This is anybody from the pub who come in found not guilty. I wanted to stay in there, and I didn't wanna leave. I wanted an explanation. Why am I being tossed out? So the judge asked the jury leave. The judge asked me leave. And I asked him why? And judge then told me you're on the defense, you're on the state's witnesses and the defense witness list, and you're not allowed legal legally to be in the courtroom because your witness. I said I I mean, I understand the legal the legal delete will block that was put up by state. I understood that, but I still wanted to object for the record because I believe I should be able to be in there. I believe it was a tactic by the state, and I told that to the judge I explained that to him. And he let me know that you're you're. Your objection is noted for the record. And I did tell them, you know, I did make make a statement. You know, you guys don't want to jury see the truth. You guys don't wanna know that Mr. Chuck Morton frame me and hid evidence, and nobody wants the truth here. He asked me to leave. And then I respectfully left. The courtroom drama of the first two days is over and the trial settles into day after day of gritty testimony on day three of the trial. Jurors finally see the grainy video footage that until the DNA discovery was the prosecution's most damaging evidence against Pablo. The brutal scene plays out in front of the court, including enhanced still images of the moment. One of the intruders were veal's his face to the camera later, an assistant medical examiner walks. The jury through the horrifying fatal injuries to Butch Sharon and Marie Murray's mother. Margaret looked straight down as autopsy photos of her slain daughter are displayed on an overhead projector, which is daughter who was ten at the time of the murders. Takes in the testimony and images betraying. No emotion. Then the DNA evidence is shown to the jury whom in a seer an analyst at the Virginia lab that did the testing explains the results that show Pablo's DNA on the t shirt. But Pablo's defense pushes back suggesting that the results could have been tainted by cross contamination touch DNA is after all a new technology and the evidence being tested is decades old. The new DNA result are damning. But if the jury can be given a solid reason to question them Pablo Mamie that much closer to freedom. The defense just needs to present the jury with reasonable doubt. Then the defense tries a tactic that sat panel for us during his retrial, the one that led to his acquittal they go after the surveillance video that all those years ago seemed to show a grainy out of focus Pablo Eibar at the murder scene in early January, rare Evans takes the stand. He's a facial recognition expert from the United Kingdom hired by bars defense team to examine images made from the video Evans tells jurors that a careful comparison of Pablo's features to the man seen on the images proved conclusively in his opinion that they were not the same. Person. Prosecutors for the state of Florida emphasized that the facial recognition expert was offering his opinion. And it was they say a personal opinion rather than a professional won the state even counters with its own expert who concludes that it's impossible to be sure. Whether or not it was Pablo Eibar on the video. In fact, prosecutor Morton argues, it doesn't matter after seven weeks of testimony. What really matters is the forensic evidence. Pablo Eibar left his tee-shirt behind at the murder scene. Worn says, that's the entire case published lawyers repeatedly attacked the DNA results reminding the jury that the evidence could have been contaminated and possibly even manipulated and they make a more emotional plea. It was after all Pablo Eibar who requested the DNA tests on the T shirt eight years earlier, if he was the killer, why would he want investigators to keep looking at such a significant piece of evidence, quote, only an? Isn't person someone who knew he had nothing to lose. What have even considered testing that shirt? Again, Pablo's lawyer tells the jury prosecutor Morton pounces he reminds the jury that Pablo never ask the lab to test the short against his own DNA. It was the state of Florida that made that request who was right. And what did it all add up to that would have to be for the jury to decide at the end of the day on January sixteenth closing statements end. Judge Bailey gives his instructions to the jury and orders them to begin deliberations sequestered behind closed doors. They work for an hour before breaking for the night. The real waiting will begin the next day and for both sides. It's an excruciating day. My name is Tania Eibar I have been married to public for twenty years. This is not it's not easy. I think this is alternately the hardest part of all of this is the waiting now. Again, you this has been given to twelve people. And now you have to wait for them to make a decision, and that is just very unsettling. Tanya was Paulos girlfriend at the time of the murder and has steadfastly supported his innocence. It's obviously been very difficult not anything that. I when I thought about having my future. And you know, when you're kidding, you think about you know, I'm going to be married to this person. You know, we're going to have this, obviously, this was not in my plan of books, but it's this has been very difficult. But aside from that I've had obviously a lot of support. And I think just in general and myself, I tried to remain very positive and try to save ERI strong. So you know, my life is definitely been far from easy. If anything it's it this situation is just a. Very difficult situation. There's so much that, you know, you miss out on there so much that, you know, the average of what people are doing on the weekends, and, you know, enjoying family. We're going on vacations and things like that that you do with your spouse. Obviously, I I don't do those things, you know, I've done a lot of going to the prison visiting public prison, which is not the way you really want to spend your weekend. Seth panel knows what it's like to wait for a jury. He's done it three times before. In the cases, Nickelodeon murder case, it's gut wrenching. He can't eat. It's hard to sleep. Even though you don't get much sleep. It's just, you know, you try to think positive, but it's you know, you you don't know which way you'll never know which way Jerry speaking, I went through three jury trials when you think, you know, you're it's totally opposite. So I kind of gave up on trying to think where the jury is. And you know, you look at it be an innocent person. And having been convicted before and knowing where he's at sitting there, you know, being innocent man, I understand what he's feeling what he's going through like Mike gonna go back to it. I, you know, you know, you look at the numbers I was twenty one. And I mean, he's probably forty five forty six also and it took him from two thousand six until what two thousand nineteen thirteen what almost thirteen years. To get another shot. So it's like, you know, you don't got too many more left in you when you're forty five, you know, the pill pellet processes long drawn out. So you wanna go home, and it hurts your anxiety everything. Dieties were being felt on both sides. Debbie says sitting in waiting for a jury is breathtaking never know what you're going through the five and gosh, offend five six miles and every one of them have been different though, you never know. Right. And you why you help because if you've been in the states or long as I had everything that I have learned that the jury has never been told. And that's the thing. But it is talented when you're the family member, and you have been sitting in Florence and listening to tech on the outside. The jury to know that jewelry will not know them of those things really and insta- liberations. The jury asks to hear the DNA testimony again, it takes the entire morning of Friday January eighteenth. As the waiting resumes, the Aries abound. What was the jury listening for brother? Michael Eibar wonders where they try to convince a hold out to convict or to acquit. What were they discussing the deliberations room at six PM Friday? The jury sent a note to the judge they're done for the day. They want to return to the hotel where they have been sequestered since deliberations began. It could mean that they reached a decision and want to sleep on it. It could mean they're split and tired of arguing it could mean anything deliberations resume Saturday morning, but not for long less than an hour into the day. The jury sent a note to the judge they have reached a verdict. Charlie

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"seth panel" Discussed on Felonious Florida

Felonious Florida

09:19 min | 1 year ago

"seth panel" Discussed on Felonious Florida

"Deliberations seemed like an eternity. It was a was ten days eleven days. I think that's the longest in Florida history. Longest in US history for capital case for jury be out. I remember when they were. Reading the verdict when they say count one not guilty. You know, the first thing I'm thinking, okay. We have lesser charges on thinking. Okay. I'm not guilty. I agree murder. But then when they went to count to they said, not guilty in my my legal sense kicked in and I say hold on. And then they say count three not guilty, and I say that's murder murder murder all three counts, and I just broke down from right there. I didn't hear anything else. After twenty two years south was free. It was I mean, I was like I don't know living on a high out of this world. I couldn't go to when I got out. I couldn't go to sleep for three days. I said a nine hundred ninety seven I said, no ninety five I said Godwin one day, if I ever get found guilty, the first place, I wanna go. I wanna go to the closest church, and I wanna get down on my knees. Imprint that church on care. What time it is? And I wanna go to the beach and put my back on a palm tree. So I got out at three o'clock in the morning, and the nearest church was I think it was ninth avenue David boulevard, if you had a little bit south as a Catholic church, and I didn't care if it was Catholic Baptist Pentecost Jehovah witness. I was just I it was like forty degrees out. I was freezing. I wasn't freezing. But my friend. I was with me she was called. And I I was out there for like twenty minutes on my hands and knees, and and I was just praying, and I stopped by Dunkin donuts get some coffee, then I went to. The beach on commercial in a with a periods. And I was going to go down there by the ward at first it was pitch dark. But then I started hearing the roaring the ocean. And you know, I haven't been around something like that almost twenty years. And I was scared. I said I didn't come this far the ocean swapping up. So I stayed away from the water and win put my butt in the Gulf against a tree. And I just enjoyed it for about an hour. Pabo Eibar has faced a tougher challenge. Since the hung jury nineteen ninety seven primarily prosecutors allege that it is his face that could be seen on the video footage during the murder, but the image on the video is grainy and Pablos lawyers and supporters have insisted it's not him. It's the most important piece of evidence until now and the most controversial. Debbie is the sister of one of the murder victims. Sharon anderson. They can for years with with description of the type of grainy as though you can't make out who I look at that type until you. My sister is for how can anyone who knows? How far look at that. And say that that's not him. So yeah, it's angering I can't tell you how many people who know be known me all these years who, of course, will ask and they will always say to me how can it be that the entire homicide? And you guys still don't have any very frustrating to explain that to people because even with all of your legal exposure. Because I thought of starting at this point even with everything I understand about the case it is. Maddening to watch it and what someone with nothing on his face. Until your sister and have that piece of very long evidence bequest, and there are people who kill and rob and seven eleven videos who trials all. Fix. Evidence against Pablo was strong enough to convince a second jury that it was indeed his face on the video. He was convicted and sentenced to death. But for the second time in the cases, Nickelodeon murder case, the Florida Supreme Court stepped in and threw out the conviction. This time they ruled up Pablo hadn't received an adequate defense from his lawyer who was ill during the trial. Pablo would face his third jury. But this time a tactic used by his defense years. Earlier would come back to haunt him. With nothing to lose before his trial and twenty ten Pablo. Eibar team took a gamble. They sent the blue t shirt found at the crime scene to a forensics lab in Virginia. They were hoping to find DNA on the shirt that could pin the murders another potential suspect. But the results were negative and the T shirt went into storage since then a new prosecutor Williamson Claire has been working to convict Pablo. And he had a thought about the t shirt Pablo had attested for another suspects DNA, but had the lab ever tested the t shirt against Pablo's own DNA. It had not Sinclair ordered the test. And this time the news was bad for Pablo. The results of the new test showed that Pablo was a major contributor to the personally recovered DNA the probability that it was a different Caucasian man was one in eleven million. The odds shrank to about one in thirty five million among Hispanic men, the momentum shit. Shifted from the defense to the prosecution. Suddenly the controversial grainy video wasn't the most important piece of evidence against Pablo. Ibar jury selection began October first twenty eighteen and by thanksgiving, it was complete. The courtroom is packed on the opening day of the trial. Eibar wife brother and father are joined by other family members with them as a delegation of senators from Spain where I bar has become a celebrity among opponents of the death penalty. One Senator rows of in del of Madrid says, quote, we are not here to say he is innocent. We are here as opponents of the death penalty. We don't want his life to be at risk. We want a fair trial the group from Spain has raised more than one million dollars for Pablo's. Current defense on the other side of the courtroom is a single row of just four people which Casey's daughter Alexis who is now thirty five years old Marie rudders mother, Margaret and brother Karim and a Representative from the victim's advocate office, which helps family members understand the legal process during murder trials. Deb buoy. Sharon sister sat through all of the previous trials. But now lives in central Florida with her children and isn't at the trial. Their mother Barbara Jones died in twenty seventeen prosecutor Williamson Claire opens the case against Pablo by highlighting his newest weapon. The DNA publish DNA was on the t shirt Sinclair tells the jury so is the DNA of Sharon Anderson, one of the murder victims this proves it Sinclair says Eibar is one of the killers. The DNA evidence on the t shirt is damaging for Pablo and his lawyers aren't hiding it at his trial. It's true. His attorney Kevin Kulik tells the jury Pablo's DNA is on the shirt, and so a Sharon Anderson's, but he says there was someone else's DNA in the fibers to unknown number one. That's what Kulik called him the source of the DNA hasn't been identified. But Kulik tells the jury that DNA belongs to the real killer. Defense lawyers argued that the murder investigation has been tainted by misconduct almost from the start. And there's at least one person out there that police knew about but never pursued. He walked into the Broward sheriff's office after the murders and claimed responsibility for taking Bush Casey's Mercedes from his house and driving it seventy miles north to Palm Beach county where he said on fire near the Florida Everglades. Seth panel says he discovered notation of the alleged confession in police files while he was appealing his conviction on death row two days after the murders. I I wasn't even a suspect. Mr. Eibar wasn't even a suspect. When you have a gentleman at walks into brow sheriff's office, and this guy confesses says, yeah, I burnt the car. My boss told me to do it. How does not arrest him immediately for grand theft auto possession of stolen property doesn't make sense in. Why they don't call West Palm Beach shares office. Hey, we got the guy will blue car. In your county. You arrest them? Then I'm not here. Mr. Eibar is not here that could have been the murderer. But what happens BSO less mango less than twenty four hours later. He's dead. The man's name was Johnny McGill. He was shot to death outside a Miami strip club the day after he gave his brief statement to a deputy. He's in front of a club. They asked him to come out. They kill them co. But that's for me. A lot of answers are in a lot of questions. Don't get answered. Nobody wants to answer these questions whenever you let somebody that confesses to the murder. He dies later. I mean, there's a lot on answer questions here. Prosecutors say that false. Confessions are not uncommon in high profile murder cases by the time. The witnesses statement came to light investigators were already confident they had the right men in custody. The idea of south testifying and Pablos current trial was a potential problem for both the prosecution and the defense he was on the witness list for both sides and his first appearance in the courtroom early in the trial caused waves.

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"seth panel" Discussed on Felonious Florida

Felonious Florida

09:19 min | 1 year ago

"seth panel" Discussed on Felonious Florida

"Deliberations seemed like an eternity. It was a was ten days eleven days. I think that's the longest in Florida history. Longest in US history for capital case for jury be out. I remember when they were. Reading the verdict when they say count one not guilty. You know, the first thing I'm thinking, okay. We have lesser charges on thinking. Okay. I'm not guilty. I agree murder. But then when they went to count to they said, not guilty in my my legal sense kicked in and I say hold on. And then they say count three not guilty, and I say that's murder murder murder all three counts, and I just broke down from right there. I didn't hear anything else. After twenty two years south was free. It was I mean, I was like I don't know living on a high out of this world. I couldn't go to when I got out. I couldn't go to sleep for three days. I said a nine hundred ninety seven I said, no ninety five I said Godwin one day, if I ever get found guilty, the first place, I wanna go. I wanna go to the closest church, and I wanna get down on my knees. Imprint that church on care. What time it is? And I wanna go to the beach and put my back on a palm tree. So I got out at three o'clock in the morning, and the nearest church was I think it was ninth avenue David boulevard, if you had a little bit south as a Catholic church, and I didn't care if it was Catholic Baptist Pentecost Jehovah witness. I was just I it was like forty degrees out. I was freezing. I wasn't freezing. But my friend. I was with me she was called. And I I was out there for like twenty minutes on my hands and knees, and and I was just praying, and I stopped by Dunkin donuts get some coffee, then I went to. The beach on commercial in a with a periods. And I was going to go down there by the ward at first it was pitch dark. But then I started hearing the roaring the ocean. And you know, I haven't been around something like that almost twenty years. And I was scared. I said I didn't come this far the ocean swapping up. So I stayed away from the water and win put my butt in the Gulf against a tree. And I just enjoyed it for about an hour. Pabo Eibar has faced a tougher challenge. Since the hung jury nineteen ninety seven primarily prosecutors allege that it is his face that could be seen on the video footage during the murder, but the image on the video is grainy and Pablos lawyers and supporters have insisted it's not him. It's the most important piece of evidence until now and the most controversial. Debbie is the sister of one of the murder victims. Sharon anderson. They can for years with with description of the type of grainy as though you can't make out who I look at that type until you. My sister is for how can anyone who knows? How far look at that. And say that that's not him. So yeah, it's angering I can't tell you how many people who know be known me all these years who, of course, will ask and they will always say to me how can it be that the entire homicide? And you guys still don't have any very frustrating to explain that to people because even with all of your legal exposure. Because I thought of starting at this point even with everything I understand about the case it is. Maddening to watch it and what someone with nothing on his face. Until your sister and have that piece of very long evidence bequest, and there are people who kill and rob and seven eleven videos who trials all. Fix. Evidence against Pablo was strong enough to convince a second jury that it was indeed his face on the video. He was convicted and sentenced to death. But for the second time in the cases, Nickelodeon murder case, the Florida Supreme Court stepped in and threw out the conviction. This time they ruled up Pablo hadn't received an adequate defense from his lawyer who was ill during the trial. Pablo would face his third jury. But this time a tactic used by his defense years. Earlier would come back to haunt him. With nothing to lose before his trial and twenty ten Pablo. Eibar team took a gamble. They sent the blue t shirt found at the crime scene to a forensics lab in Virginia. They were hoping to find DNA on the shirt that could pin the murders another potential suspect. But the results were negative and the T shirt went into storage since then a new prosecutor Williamson Claire has been working to convict Pablo. And he had a thought about the t shirt Pablo had attested for another suspects DNA, but had the lab ever tested the t shirt against Pablo's own DNA. It had not Sinclair ordered the test. And this time the news was bad for Pablo. The results of the new test showed that Pablo was a major contributor to the personally recovered DNA the probability that it was a different Caucasian man was one in eleven million. The odds shrank to about one in thirty five million among Hispanic men, the momentum shit. Shifted from the defense to the prosecution. Suddenly the controversial grainy video wasn't the most important piece of evidence against Pablo. Ibar jury selection began October first twenty eighteen and by thanksgiving, it was complete. The courtroom is packed on the opening day of the trial. Eibar wife brother and father are joined by other family members with them as a delegation of senators from Spain where I bar has become a celebrity among opponents of the death penalty. One Senator rows of in del of Madrid says, quote, we are not here to say he is innocent. We are here as opponents of the death penalty. We don't want his life to be at risk. We want a fair trial the group from Spain has raised more than one million dollars for Pablo's. Current defense on the other side of the courtroom is a single row of just four people which Casey's daughter Alexis who is now thirty five years old Marie rudders mother, Margaret and brother Karim and a Representative from the victim's advocate office, which helps family members understand the legal process during murder trials. Deb buoy. Sharon sister sat through all of the previous trials. But now lives in central Florida with her children and isn't at the trial. Their mother Barbara Jones died in twenty seventeen prosecutor Williamson Claire opens the case against Pablo by highlighting his newest weapon. The DNA publish DNA was on the t shirt Sinclair tells the jury so is the DNA of Sharon Anderson, one of the murder victims this proves it Sinclair says Eibar is one of the killers. The DNA evidence on the t shirt is damaging for Pablo and his lawyers aren't hiding it at his trial. It's true. His attorney Kevin Kulik tells the jury Pablo's DNA is on the shirt, and so a Sharon Anderson's, but he says there was someone else's DNA in the fibers to unknown number one. That's what Kulik called him the source of the DNA hasn't been identified. But Kulik tells the jury that DNA belongs to the real killer. Defense lawyers argued that the murder investigation has been tainted by misconduct almost from the start. And there's at least one person out there that police knew about but never pursued. He walked into the Broward sheriff's office after the murders and claimed responsibility for taking Bush Casey's Mercedes from his house and driving it seventy miles north to Palm Beach county where he said on fire near the Florida Everglades. Seth panel says he discovered notation of the alleged confession in police files while he was appealing his conviction on death row two days after the murders. I I wasn't even a suspect. Mr. Eibar wasn't even a suspect. When you have a gentleman at walks into brow sheriff's office, and this guy confesses says, yeah, I burnt the car. My boss told me to do it. How does not arrest him immediately for grand theft auto possession of stolen property doesn't make sense in. Why they don't call West Palm Beach shares office. Hey, we got the guy will blue car. In your county. You arrest them? Then I'm not here. Mr. Eibar is not here that could have been the murderer. But what happens BSO less mango less than twenty four hours later. He's dead. The man's name was Johnny McGill. He was shot to death outside a Miami strip club the day after he gave his brief statement to a deputy. He's in front of a club. They asked him to come out. They kill them co. But that's for me. A lot of answers are in a lot of questions. Don't get answered. Nobody wants to answer these questions whenever you let somebody that confesses to the murder. He dies later. I mean, there's a lot on answer questions here. Prosecutors say that false. Confessions are not uncommon in high profile murder cases by the time. The witnesses statement came to light investigators were already confident they had the right men in custody. The idea of south testifying and Pablos current trial was a potential problem for both the prosecution and the defense he was on the witness list for both sides and his first appearance in the courtroom early in the trial caused waves.

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"seth panel" Discussed on Felonious Florida

Felonious Florida

05:27 min | 1 year ago

"seth panel" Discussed on Felonious Florida

"Michael Eibar is waiting anxiously outside of a courtroom in Broward County, Florida facing emotions he's experienced before in a room near by a jury is locked away trying to decide if Michael's brother Pablo Eibar is a murderer or a man wrongly accused just would be amazing to have my brother back. I lost my mother, and in a way, I lost my brother when I was very young. I have I have a picture of my mother, and my brother from that time before he got arrested next to my bed. So it'd be like getting half of your family value. You know? This is very possibly Pablo bars. Final chance to win his freedom. It's been almost a quarter century since that August day in nineteen ninety four when he was charged with murdering Bush, Casey, Sharon Anderson and Marie Rodgers now for a third time. He waits for twelve strangers to decide his fate and three families wait to find out. If they will finally see Justice served. It Saturday morning and the jury files into the courtroom, the fifth trial, and the extrordinary cases Nickelodeon murder case is about to come to an end. From the south Florida Sun-Sentinel and wondering this is a special episode of flow news, Florida, the podcast that leads you into the dark side of the sunshine state. I'm your host and mccade Austin along with reporter Rafael omega. The cases Nickelodeon murderers is the story that launched this show in early twenty eighteen if you haven't listened to episodes one through four we suggest you go back and catch up start with the episode, titled the executions the update you're about to hear will make a lot more sense. The Casey's Nickelodeon murder case has been remarkable since the moment a sheriff's deputy discovered the bloody crime scene July nineteen ninety four Butch Casey whose real name was Casimir Sikorsky was beaten and shot to death on his dining room floor next to him lay. The bodies of Sharon Anderson and Marie Rogers to twenty five year old women. He met at his nightclub cases Nickelodeon within hours of the gruesome discovery came explosive evidence, a now famous twenty two minute video recorded by a surveillance camera mounted in a high corner of which is house the camera recorded two intruders, bursting through a back door with their faces covered to conceal their identities recorded them terrorizing Butch Sharon and Marie it recorded them as they put bullets into the backs of all three, and then it recorded, what should have been a moment that made this an open and shut case with the only witnesses dead and unaware of the camera. Aim. Directly at him one of the intruders removed a t shirt that had been covering his head and expose his face to the world. But although the video led police Apollo Eibar and eventually his friend Seth panel. It was the t shirt that the unwitting intruder removed from his head that would become the key to the case that and the advances in DNA technology that expose secrets held for twenty five years in the fibers of the blue shirt found outside Bush Casey's front door and last week. That's what prosecutor Chuck Morton told the jury in Pablo Ivers murder trial. The more things change. The more their status. This case has been hard of this court system since nineteen ninety four. Much changed since then you see the right here in the courtroom. Technology, particularly is different. We see no changes technology that occurred in our lives. Tiger fords. Which was a department was place. We seem changes have been made with respect to for wizards sites. You heard all that testimony. As believes Jay. Will. So we are. But again, how do we get the more things change? The more forensic evidence has alluded. The prosecution at every step in this sprawling case. There was none during that first trial in nineteen ninety seven when Pablo and south were tried together as co-defendants that trial ended with a hung jury. There was no physical evidence. Again, two years later when Seth was back on trial after that jury found him guilty of the murders. The Florida Supreme Court decided that the evidence against him was so thin. So circumstantial that it threw out the conviction and ordered a new trial three years later. Seth's team presented a jury with new information. It had discovered trying to convince them that Seth wasn't a killer for Seth waiting. During deliberations

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"seth panel" Discussed on Felonious Florida

Felonious Florida

05:27 min | 1 year ago

"seth panel" Discussed on Felonious Florida

"Michael Eibar is waiting anxiously outside of a courtroom in Broward County, Florida facing emotions he's experienced before in a room near by a jury is locked away trying to decide if Michael's brother Pablo Eibar is a murderer or a man wrongly accused just would be amazing to have my brother back. I lost my mother, and in a way, I lost my brother when I was very young. I have I have a picture of my mother, and my brother from that time before he got arrested next to my bed. So it'd be like getting half of your family value. You know? This is very possibly Pablo bars. Final chance to win his freedom. It's been almost a quarter century since that August day in nineteen ninety four when he was charged with murdering Bush, Casey, Sharon Anderson and Marie Rodgers now for a third time. He waits for twelve strangers to decide his fate and three families wait to find out. If they will finally see Justice served. It Saturday morning and the jury files into the courtroom, the fifth trial, and the extrordinary cases Nickelodeon murder case is about to come to an end. From the south Florida Sun-Sentinel and wondering this is a special episode of flow news, Florida, the podcast that leads you into the dark side of the sunshine state. I'm your host and mccade Austin along with reporter Rafael omega. The cases Nickelodeon murderers is the story that launched this show in early twenty eighteen if you haven't listened to episodes one through four we suggest you go back and catch up start with the episode, titled the executions the update you're about to hear will make a lot more sense. The Casey's Nickelodeon murder case has been remarkable since the moment a sheriff's deputy discovered the bloody crime scene July nineteen ninety four Butch Casey whose real name was Casimir Sikorsky was beaten and shot to death on his dining room floor next to him lay. The bodies of Sharon Anderson and Marie Rogers to twenty five year old women. He met at his nightclub cases Nickelodeon within hours of the gruesome discovery came explosive evidence, a now famous twenty two minute video recorded by a surveillance camera mounted in a high corner of which is house the camera recorded two intruders, bursting through a back door with their faces covered to conceal their identities recorded them terrorizing Butch Sharon and Marie it recorded them as they put bullets into the backs of all three, and then it recorded, what should have been a moment that made this an open and shut case with the only witnesses dead and unaware of the camera. Aim. Directly at him one of the intruders removed a t shirt that had been covering his head and expose his face to the world. But although the video led police Apollo Eibar and eventually his friend Seth panel. It was the t shirt that the unwitting intruder removed from his head that would become the key to the case that and the advances in DNA technology that expose secrets held for twenty five years in the fibers of the blue shirt found outside Bush Casey's front door and last week. That's what prosecutor Chuck Morton told the jury in Pablo Ivers murder trial. The more things change. The more their status. This case has been hard of this court system since nineteen ninety four. Much changed since then you see the right here in the courtroom. Technology, particularly is different. We see no changes technology that occurred in our lives. Tiger fords. Which was a department was place. We seem changes have been made with respect to for wizards sites. You heard all that testimony. As believes Jay. Will. So we are. But again, how do we get the more things change? The more forensic evidence has alluded. The prosecution at every step in this sprawling case. There was none during that first trial in nineteen ninety seven when Pablo and south were tried together as co-defendants that trial ended with a hung jury. There was no physical evidence. Again, two years later when Seth was back on trial after that jury found him guilty of the murders. The Florida Supreme Court decided that the evidence against him was so thin. So circumstantial that it threw out the conviction and ordered a new trial three years later. Seth's team presented a jury with new information. It had discovered trying to convince them that Seth wasn't a killer for Seth waiting. During deliberations

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"seth panel" Discussed on Felonious Florida

Felonious Florida

05:40 min | 2 years ago

"seth panel" Discussed on Felonious Florida

"Slash Florida or Tex Florida to five hundred dash five hundred to get started today. The twists and turns of the investigation of the Casey's Nickelodeon murders and the attempts to prosecute Pablo Eibar, and Seth Panova or gizine the case files are massive. Pablo Eibar has insisted since his arrest in nine hundred ninety four that he didn't kill anybody is conviction was overturned on appeal in two thousand sixteen, but not before he spent sixteen years on death row for the triple murder. This spring, he'll face yet. Another jury that will decide his speed is wife. Tania has never wavered in her support. I'm happy because we're here, but there is that fear there because no matter what those people have to make that decision. I just hope whoever those twelve people are. Are able to see the truth. But again, it's twelve people that our lives laying their hands once again. And again, it will probably be the last time Seth panel or spent eighteen years in prison, including six on death row. But after a third trial in two thousand twelve, a Florida jury acquitted him and said him free. There has been no Justice for the families of which Casey Sharon Anderson and Marie Rogers for marines mother, Margaret Edwards, the years of her life. This case is consumed, seem surreal. Sometimes I think this is I'm the. Yet. Like you go to something and things up and then you say this phone, you. So why was this such a difficult case? Let's go back to nineteen ninety four. The deputy in Palm Beach county has just encountered the burning Mercedes convertible on a remote road in the Everglades after the fire is out, investigators move in. They discover the car belongs to which Casey, the well-known south Florida bar owner. Police in Miramar seventy miles south head to Butch house on each shore road an officer knocks on the front door. But nobody answers. He writes, note on the back of his business card, sticks it in the door and leaves. Around the same time. Phone rings in Birmingham, Alabama where Sharon Anderson sister, Debra who lives it's her mother calling from Miami. Sharon hadn't come home Saturday night. She tells Debra, she hasn't returned pages either Deborah's panicked. It was out of character for Sharon disappear without getting in touch with anybody. There would be times where she didn't come home. She's a a friend's house. So she she had a really good friend who lives in Broward. And so you know she, she would always call and say, hey, I'm saying Valerie's and saying, you know, someone's house and I'll be back in a couple of days. So it wasn't like we didn't know what she was. So when my mom called me on that weekend, like immediately, I remember feeling angry because I was, you know, two weeks away from timing the baby. And that's just not the problem I wanted to get. I was angry because my mom said, hey, Sharon, did not come home and we're supposed to go to the movies today to see the line. My sister would never do that. Never. So the minute she says that like in my in my spirit under something was wrong, but I mean, who could ever guess? So I started Beijing are nine one one, nine one one. Not no answer. So I went on for this was that this point? My mom called me really early on Sunday, my Sunday afternoon. I was almost in full-scale tenant. My then husband. We all we all knew something wasn't right and no one really say anything it was sort of, well, this is and you know, see if we can track her rest up since mom had used who she was. She was with Marie? Did you call them as mothers finally, somewhere around dinnertime, mom said, well, the cars in my name. Do you think she would be a set of report of the cost? And I said, at this point, I don't care if she's mad. I mean, that's something's wrong. Back in Florida. Margaret Edwards paces around her Pembroke park home. She had last seen her daughter Marie Rogers Saturday night when Sharon had come to pick her up when she realizes Marie hadn't come home. Margaret is struck with a sense of gerrad Marie lives there with her two and a half year old daughter and would never stay away for that long without calling as the hours tick by earnings -iety gets worse at ocean was brought up. His was even Takhar. In not evening trying to four hours because he's going to happen because she would be home, and that is the thing started to when you bring up your child, a certain we you when something new out of the ordinary, you know something on your feet. And I said something different the wrong because should not come home. And when I was calling the phone just keep running. So when when when accord the court and this unknown, you know, she's the current five. I mean, you know, she, I said, no, he's going to come home came and said, okay, I'm going to check around certain comeback. Know nobody called back. Nobody came. Report. Her daughter missing. She gives a photo of marina deputy Christopher Schwab from the Broward County sheriff's office. She also gives him the license plate number of Sharon's car. She also mentions Casey's Nickelodeon.

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"seth panel" Discussed on Felonious Florida

Felonious Florida

05:19 min | 2 years ago

"seth panel" Discussed on Felonious Florida

"Industry. She had coordinated fashion showcases around south Florida. She juggled her budding career with being the single mother of toddler. Butch Casey makes his way over to marine Sharon and the three spent some time talking. He flirts with them, has a plate of wasters Rockefeller sent over on the house as Don starch break, and the club is closing down. Butch invites the two women back to his house in the quiet suburb of Miramar a few miles away. They arrived shortly after six thirty right around sunrise and Butch gives them a tour of the place. He's in fine form tonight. Entertaining his guests. Attentively the impromptu little party goes on. Within an hour all three or get brutalized shot in their heads at close range. What happened over that? Our at which Casey's houses hardly a mystery. In fact, we know second by second detail about the movements of Butch Casey and the others who were there, it's what makes this case now known as the Casey's Nickelodeon murders. So remarkable. Pleace marble that what they called the single most significant piece of evidence state ever seen an investigation which Casey's home was wired with security cameras. They captured everything that seems rather remarkable today when video records so much of our lives. But in nineteen Ninety-four such home technology was rare. Here's potential bats, a former reporter for the south Florida Sun-Sentinel who covered the murders police reporter for three years. I've seen a lot of murder and death after the fact, but the actually see unfold in seed when is happening. And you know, he's not TV. This is not something dramatizes. Real world is breathtaking and it's in. It's stunning one camera was hidden above the table where the three were partying. It recorded every moment of their violent killings and it recorded who killed them. They were recognized by several people who were shown photos grabbed from the videotape one. They said resembled Pablo Eibar, a twenty two year old who was living in Hollywood Florida in a flop house that was known on the street for drug dealing cell phone and credit card fraud, and it's gun toting tenants. He had no criminal record, but was on a downward spiral after returning from California where he spent a semester playing football or community college. The other man fingered on the video Seth panel, a twenty one year old, middle school, dropout who had been on his own and essentially homeless by age fifteen. Seth done three months in county jail for driving by rivals house and shooting into. He also spent six months in state prison in a case involving stolen gold chain. It seemed like the incriminating video would make this an open and shut case. But a jury ultimately decided Seth Panova was not involved in the murders. In fact, over the twenty three years since the killings and discovery of the video, there have been hor trials to convictions a hung, jury to death sentences in two successful appeals. Today. Early in two thousand eighteen. Nobody stands convicted of the Casey's Nickelodeon mirrors the sun sentinel reporter, bats. In cases just simply will not go away. Hi, it's Lisa. Arthur audio books are a great way to get informed motivated or just entertain, and if you're enjoying Polonius Florida, audible has some titles that you may also like try books like west cork and audible original about a famous foam producer's wife who was bludgeoned to death steps from her idyllic, cottage on the coast of Ireland or debut. Everyone is talking about AJ fins the woman in the window about a paranoid woman who believes she's witnessed a crime in a neighboring house and don't forget Craig Pitman's of Florida. How America's weirdest state influences the rest of the country. Now, audible is offering listeners felonious, Florida. A free audio book with a thirty day trial membership to browse the unmatched selection. Just go to audible dot com slash Florida. That's a U D I B L E dot com. Slash Florida or texts, Florida, five hundred dash five hundred audibles content of original audio shows news comedy and more from the. Leading publishers are yours to keep go back and and anytime even if you cancel your membership and audible members get credit every month. Good for any audio book in their store. Didn't like your audio book. You can exchange it. No questions asked download a title, free and start listening. It's that easy go to audible dot com slash Florida. That's a you. UD be L E dot com. Slash

"seth panel" Discussed on KHNR 690AM

KHNR 690AM

02:11 min | 3 years ago

"seth panel" Discussed on KHNR 690AM

"That he was suffering from is very very bleak diagnosis but the parents were prohibited from being allowed to use the private resources they had accumulated and exercise their chance to get charlie that last chance i mean that's left now is to pray but you know what what are your refik reminder of what a death panel and what a government shane no looks like when a couple is trying to save their babies life this is what socialism looks like this is what debt seth panels look like this is what government deciding like like the you know like the emperor's back in the roman coliseum days who get thumbs up thumbs down who gets to live who gets to die and london's high court and the legal system in london i'm determined that this beautiful little eleven monthold baby wasn't allowed to get the kind of treatment that the parents wanted even president trump reached out to charlie guards parents but uh just really really sad news today the parents have decided to uh to withdraw their weekslong efforts to get charlie into the united states for experimental therapy and so now there's only a prayer left the parents chris guard county h r removing their appeal to the court orders saying the charlie's treatment should end every picture i see this little baby he is clutching a teddy bear they have a little teddybear by hammers a little rose rear across in his tiny little clenched hand and accorded associated press the uh the couple cried at london's high court as their lawyer said time has simply run out for eleven months old charlotte pete that in the back of your mind as we continue to work on the efforts to repeal and replace obamacare nothing good about the government getty to decide who lives in who dies nothing good about that whatsoever coming up a preview of our white house broadcast tomorrow with my radio friend and colleague here in.

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