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"seth gruber" Discussed on The Charlie Kirk Show

The Charlie Kirk Show

05:03 min | Last week

"seth gruber" Discussed on The Charlie Kirk Show

"Is it still an emergency? Air in from Massachusetts. Hey, Charlie. Love your conversation with Steve kersh. Can you kind of illustrate more on how the vaccine is not working the way they said they would? Well, for example, in Australia. Over 96% of the adult population in Australia is fully vaccinated. More than 70% are boosted and yet they just set a new record for COVID deaths. Just give me an idea. A new record for daily COVID deaths has now been hit for this year in Australia. Not exactly working the way they said it would. Not even close actually. In fact, it's looking like. And I'm willing to have anyone disagree, come on this program that is a vaccine peddler. The more you inject, the more you infect. Austria is similar to Israel, Israel is a canary in the coal mine again. Remember, Israel is always three to 6 months ahead of almost everyone. And so in Israel, remember back in 2020 Netanyahu spoke by video conference with shmuel shapira and congratulated him on his progress of developing a vaccine against the novel, coronavirus. Well, now that vaccine doctor was previously the top Israeli military scientist, researching chemical and biological weapons, brings attention to the death and destruction that they are now causing to many around the world. That's weird. So he's the one that actually was discovering it and was praised for it and now he is the one that is being censored for even mentioning it. This is a guy by the name of professor shmuley Shapiro, apologize if I'm mispronouncing it. He has been censored on Twitter, banned from Twitter for talking about this topic. Even though he was lauded for his vaccine knowledge previously, now he is being censored for even mentioning it. Guess what? He's vaccine injured. So the man that Netanyahu actually lifted up as a hero, he is now being attacked as vaccine misinformation spreader. Eric from Texas says Charlie, I enjoyed your conversation on how some conservatives are not as pro life as it seems. I'm a 100% pro life. How do we do a better job of convincing people about the issue of life? Well, I talked a lot about it. We have Seth Gruber on this program who's amazing, talk about sled, size level development, environment, and degree of dependency. But I think it actually is helpful. I think it's instructive. And I think it's necessary to just show you the abortion advocates, their own language in their own words. This is a mainstream YouTube channel. It's a longer clip. It's very hard to watch, but I think it's necessary for you to watch this, of a woman teaching how to build an altar for a post abortion, which includes a container for the remains of the baby after being aborted, and the abortion pills on the altar. She ends the do it yourself video by kneeling before the altar, this is not satire, play tape. Building an alter for your abortion can be really cathartic procedure. It can be a really thought process. It's a really beautiful way to just give reference to the experience. And hold the experience in a really sacred way. I like to always have a candle going on my altar. I'm also going to be adding an Empress tarot card today and she really just symbolizes feminine fertility and feminine energy. I also really like to add the abortion pills themselves to the altar to really bless the pills that we're going to be taking into our bodies during this process. And once your alter is complete, go ahead and just sit in front of it and the start of the sacred container. Now, of course, it's totally unrelated Bible verse, leviticus, 1821, you should not give any of your children to vote them by the fire to moloch. And so profane the name of your God, totally unrelated, by the way. Just no connection whatsoever. Mainstream YouTuber says we must build an altar to your abortion. What struck me, it was very interesting is that it's cathartic. Why do you need something that will give you catharsis if you did nothing wrong? Why would you need to release an emotion if you did everything perfectly? Thanks so much for listening everybody. Email me your thoughts is always freedom at Charlie Kirk dot com. Thanks so much. Talk to you soon..

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"seth gruber" Discussed on The Charlie Kirk Show

The Charlie Kirk Show

05:14 min | 3 months ago

"seth gruber" Discussed on The Charlie Kirk Show

"Them. In closing, are we winning? I think that we won't win until the church decides to abandon and let me quote you. They're comfortable Christianity and embrace a comprehensive Christianity to get our boots off the ground to do what our friend Heidi St. John says to get off the bench and start contending on behalf of the pre born child to learn from our spiritual forefathers, Dietrich bonhoeffer, Martin E Muller eberhard Becky, Sophie Scholl, Oskar Schindler and William wilberforce. Frederick Douglass Harriet Tubman. Let's go down and down the line. George woodfield. That's right. Who put truth and loving their neighbor before their own reputation? I think you and I sense a stirring happening in the country. I think we all sense it. But until the bride of Christ wakes up and decides to contend on behalf of life first and then procuring every other right liberty pursuit of happiness, then we will know. I will say this though in closing, I think, is positive. And it's not all positive. Number one, the Texas abortion law is a good start. It really is. That's right. And I do believe in incrementalism because some pro life people say, it doesn't go far enough. I was like, man, you got to be a little more prudent about the seriously. You didn't apologize slavery overnight. You had the fugitive slave acts, you had all sorts of things that you had to get rid of before you were able to get to the Emancipation proclamation. But when you look at Texas, it's actually popular. Yeah. And that's a good thing. It's winning. And what's also interesting is if you read Barry Goldwater, I have a lot of respect for, but he was pro abortion. He wrote, he was right on so much. He was so wrong on this, mostly because of his second wife and all sorts of stuff. But he wrote that Republicans must abandon the abortion issue. There was a lot of chatter about that. In the 70s and 80s. And it shocks a lot of people now that it's actually the most non negotiable issue. That's right. And this is something that I tell churches that are pro life, but not political or conservative. Like, oh, I don't like Republicans. I'm like, you do realize that if you go give any pro life one liner at any of our events, that'll be the number one applause line. That's the entire event. Number one. That's right. There is a home for it, and it's growing. And so the fact that pro abortion Republicans, there's no place for them in our party. End of story. That's right. That's a really good thing. That's a good thing. Yeah. Yeah, it is a winner. Because you need a political home for this stuff. That's right. Because some people say, oh, we have to win culture with you both. We are political animals Aristotle said, if you get rid of the political apparatus in the vessel, I think it's a huge mistake. Yeah, that's right. And I'm not saying it's everything though. And we have to wake up to this. You know, Aristotle once said that tolerance and apathy are the last version of the dying society. That's right. And we are in that phase right now. We're at the end of the week. We don't wake up and start containing on behalf of the pre born, this American experience. We're tolerating. It's over. We're tolerating the destruction of the pre born and we're that's right. So we wonder why every other right we've taken for granted is the TV. Exactly. Why are they putting masks on kids? That's right. Well, everyone pushing its pro abortion. Well, I'm saying that it's the same sort of moral slide. That's right. Seth, this is great. How can people follow you or support you? Yeah, thank you. So I have a podcast called una boarded with Seth Gruber because we're all on aborted. And you're born unvaccinated. Is Reagan said, I've noticed everyone who's for abortion has already been born. It's one of the most beautiful lines. Pro choicers get very frustrated with that line because it is so ironic that you sanction the slaughter of children in a womb you once came from. So on aborted with Seth Gruber, I do two episodes a week, one with me, one with a guest. And so if you want to become pro life ninja and flipping around demolishing abortion bigotry wherever you find it, my podcast is home free. Real life ninja. So you can watch it on YouTube. We gotta get you going to campuses. And I have before. I was scheduled at UC Berkeley actually, Charlie. The day that it shut down in March of 2020. We got to do it the turning point, though. We got to get it with some controversy. You know what I mean? And we're working on some stuff in court. I know you are new season here. And then my website Seth Gruber dot com. Charlie, you and I have a friend and a very generous church partner of mine. Who has offered to underwrite all of my travel expenses and honorarium for churches, youth groups or Christian schools who would like to bring me out to equip and fire up their people to defend life, but maybe who don't have the so how do people the facts that make all that happen? So you can contact me through Seth Gruber dot com. How do you spell Gruber? GRU, B is in baby boy, ER dot com. Good job. That's right. That's right. Or my email is Seth at Seth Gruber dot com. Follow me on Facebook and Instagram. So that's available as a sponsorship to people who want to get pro life education. You're going to have some people hit you up. And I'm telling you, Seth is awesome. He's magnanimous. He'll charm the audience, but he'll tell the truth. There's no wavering as you guys could tell. It's terrific. So we have to have you back on more often just to talk about all this sort of stuff to build a cultural life. That's right. It's so important. And if anyone has any questions, you guys can email us freedom at Charlie Kirk dot com and take stuff up on his offer. He'll travel to you and hey man. He'll turn it into a pro life ninja. All right, God bless you, Seth. Thanks so much. Thanks for listening, everybody. Thank you so much for listening, everybody, email me directly freedom at Charlie Kirk dot com or support the Charlie Kirk show at Charlie Kirk dot com slash support. Thank you so much for listening. God bless. For more, on many of these stories and news you can trust. Go to Charlie Kirk dot com..

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"seth gruber" Discussed on The Charlie Kirk Show

The Charlie Kirk Show

06:13 min | 3 months ago

"seth gruber" Discussed on The Charlie Kirk Show

"Right. And Peter Kraft put this perfectly once. He said that abortion is the demonic parody of the eucharist. That's why it uses the same holy words. This is my body. But with the opposite blasphemous meaning. Yeah. So Christ says, this is my body, broken for you. That this will definitely register take your Catholic listeners and remember for me. That's right. But the left and the secular progressive movement, Charlie, not ironically, actually says the same words, don't they? Yeah. This is my body, my choice, and I'll kill whatever's inside of my body because a serpent told me in genesis three Ye shall be as gods, and I get to decide who lives and who dies. So not only is it abortion, the ultimate fulfillment of that first light Charlie in man killing man and deciding who lives and dies. But it's also the fulfillment of that first lie in that we kill babies in order to extend our own lives and attempt to live forever. Let me break that down for your listeners. First Corinthians, 15, 26. The last enemy to be defeated is death. A man, it has been Christ defeats death on calvary and says, I've defeated it for you. Repent and believe. And you'll live forever with me in eternity. The left is seeking to procure and secure Charlie, what has already been secured for them on calvary. The prenatal deity, the God ban who entered human history in a uterus in order to redeem mankind from their sins, has already been beaten abused sheds his innocent blood for the remission of sins. But the culture of death rather than accepting the broken body and shed blood of Christ for eternal life demands that we break the bodies and shed the blood of babies for eternal life. How do we do this? Embryonic stem cell research. The left insists that we kill babies to get their stem cells Charlie and use vaccines with them. That's right. To use them to find cures for diseases. Do you want to know how many diseases are right now successfully being treated with embryonic stem cells? I have no idea zero. You know how many diseases are being successfully treated with adult stem cells over 75. So I'm interested because they're always talking about how wonderful the aborted fetuses have been for devout. You're saying that. Well, that's embryonic stem cell reason. Okay. But then I don't know that field. Yeah, yeah, yeah, as well. So adult stem cells, you can get without killing the human. You can't get a baby stem cells without killing the baby. But they say we need to kill the baby. Why? So we can extend our own lives. They demand that we kill babies to get their parts through fetal tissue research and fetal tissue or fetal organ harvesting in order that those of us who need organs can get them or so if you're Doctor Fauci, you fund the university of Pittsburgh. Where they scalp babies at aborted between 20 and 24 weeks old, take the scalp of that child inserted subcutaneously on lab rats to create humanized mice to test solutions to staffing. Oh yeah, Fauci funds the university of people are more mad about the beagles. That's right. What happens to a society Charlie that's more mad about the abuse of beagles and babies. We are in deep doo doo. We have lost our moorings. That's where we they also insist that we kill babies Charlie to experiment with prenatal gene editing. Two stories came out earlier in 2021. The same scientist behind both, Charlie. One was we're trying to drop the unspoken 14 day limit on growing human beings artificially in labs. They want to see Charlie. How long can we develop a human? A baby in a lab? Because the more developed and older we can get it without it being its mother's uterus, we can experiment prenatal gene editing. Now, that will kill the baby, but on nuts, shucks for the baby too bad because if we can perfect Gina editing with babies and sacrifice their bodies, maybe we can perfect it before we practice it on ourselves and just edit out from the gene code certain susceptibilities to diseases that we don't like. So the baby simply becomes a sacrifice on man's pursuit for eternal life. Same scientists are creating human monkey hybrids right now. I saw that. And they're developing them growing them, murdering them, why, to get their organs so that, oh, Charlie, you need an extra organ. Well, the little baby monkey hybrids have some. And all four of those examples, the left insists that we murder human beings and sacrifice them in order to live longer and pagan societies have been doing this forever. Sacrificing infants, children's and adults to the weather gods, the sex gods, the crop gods. Because their belief was in sacrificing a person, they would receive a blessing in return from that deity, and their lives would be extended. But it's still demon worship, isn't it? Because if yahweh is yahweh, that means one God, which means any other small G God is not a God, we know that. It's Satan masquerading as a little freaking bronze dude. Satan is molek. To whom the Israelites in canaanites were sacrificing their babies to. Satan is the dragon and revelation waiting for Mary to give birth to Christ to eat Christ. And of course, he's behind the killing of babies by Herod in Bethlehem and by pharaoh in Egypt. Satan doesn't care what name you call him, as long as you continue to shove children down his throats. He will be satisfied and say yes and amen for he is the God of the religion of secular progressivism, whose greatest sacrament is abortion. So Charlie, when we say, if you don't get the right to life right, you won't get any other rights right. The left has the antonym of that. They have an inversion of that statement that animates their entire political project. It goes something like this. If you can invert the right to life, there's nothing else you can't invert. And if you can indoctrinate the public to celebrate and champion, the genocide of babies under the euphemisms of reproductive justice and reproductive healthcare, then there is no end to your political project. So the entire liberal regime is actually built on the mutilated murdered bodies of 63 million children. It's how they prop up their political regime, which is why every time a Supreme Court seat opens up, what's every Chiron? What's every statement from the mainstream media? Abortion. They don't talk about immigration. They don't talk about transgender. They don't talk about guns. They don't talk about drugs. Every time a Supreme Court seat opened up during Trump administration, they're going to take away abortion. If that doesn't tell your listeners, how much they care about abortion, I don't know what will. That's always been the goal, though, to entirely upend society so that they can recreate it in their own image and murdering the baby and championing their slaughter is how they do them..

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"seth gruber" Discussed on The Charlie Kirk Show

The Charlie Kirk Show

06:10 min | 3 months ago

"seth gruber" Discussed on The Charlie Kirk Show

"So here, so this is the way I want to go finish this conversation because this is important. So when I speak a lot of churches you do too. And I learn a lot when I speak at churches. Churches are very, very pro life. Sometimes they don't talk about it, right? But you know what churches are not? They are not necessarily pious. So when I say we have to have a real conversation about telling our children not to have sex before marriage, golf claps. Parents don't even agree with that. Isn't that kind of the root driving here for driving cost? Because married couples, they usually don't have abortions. Yeah. It does happen, but it's incredibly rare. Yeah, that's right, yeah. I heard you I heard you mention this with Abby Johnson and Kansas the other day. People don't like hearing it. And it's well stated. It is, because this is just sort of the natural trickle down effect of abandoning a judeo Christian worldview of an objective moral standard that makes sense of the moral law and our duties and responsibilities to our neighbors. And so when conservatives talk about slippery slope arguments, right? In the left goes, that's just stupid. Well, we've been right on pretty much every cultural slippery slope prediction. I used to say it was a fallacy. I think it's predictor. Yeah, that would totally is. That's right. And because ideas have a certain sort of ideological consistency to them. It goes back to my first point. People tend to work out the logic of their position through their choices. And so everyone's got to serve someone. So if you're not serving Christ, if you're not serving some transcendent moral order that makes sense of your liberty and your virtues and the choices that you should and ought to make and those that you should not and ought not to make, then man is his own God and he gets to decide. What is it though about the church and parents that are so excusing of children doing this? Yeah. A lot of I even thought deeply about this. I really have it. Like this is a new thing. This is so obvious, right? Yeah. I was speaking at one of the churches. I kind of was like, oh yeah, kind of as you're speaking, you're thinking, because speaking is thinking, it's the logos. I was like, oh yeah, obviously this happened because everyone's having sex before getting married, and this is like a last chance. Be like, oh, it's because of rape, what percentage of abortions are for rape. Yeah. Less than one according to Planned Parenthood mockers institute, right? Statistical research branch guma, it's less than 1%. So 99% is a form of birth control, right? So that's the problem. And yet, why are people so afraid to talk about this? Well, you might have seen some of the polling recently, Charlie, about the percentage of people who identify as Christian who believe that scripture is the inherent infallible word of God. I haven't seen this today. What it teaches is therefore correct. I mean, there are now similarity of Christian minority. Who do not believe that the scriptures infallible and inherent. And so minority that that's a double negative. What do you mean? There's a minority who the majority who thinks it isn't. Sorry. A minority believes that the minority believe what we believe that the Bible is perfect. Yeah, yeah. Got it. And so much of this, of course, as you and I always talk about and both of our pastor rob McCoy was talking about is as the church and the pulpit has abdicated their spiritual love to preach the full council of God. We're just sending those people and our sheep into the arms of an alternative religion, which has their own very strange answers to fundamentally religious questions. They're just very different answers and what the church teaches. And so I think one of the reasons to your question, why is the church not talking about this? Wait to have sex so you get married, you'll be happier and you won't be faced with raising a child that you feel like maybe you're not God. Because many of them are not living that way. Well, yeah, I guess you're right. But isn't that the root cause of this is kind of sexual anarchy? Of course. It's anything but God's way. And that's what The Serpent tells you is if you eat the apple, your eyes will be open. You'll see my way so let's talk about that. I've never heard it put genesis three the way you put it to go get woke. It's the first woke story. Yeah, it's really interesting. Obviously, I love early genesis. The first 11 books of genesis are awesome. Yeah. Because they're not written in a chronological form, because as soon as Abraham comes on the scene, it's written very, this happened and this happened. And I'm not saying that the things that the first 11 books didn't happen. That's not what I'm saying. But the timeline is very you have to infer a time. Not with Noah, it's a little bit more clear. But between genesis one and three, you don't really know how much time has passed. You can infer it, except for the creation story, right? And so what do you mean by genesis three? That's the first woke story. It's really interesting. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And you know, I think that abortion is the ultimate fulfillment of that first lie. The lie that led to every other lie. The lie of The Serpent to eve, who says, for God doth know that in the day Ye eat thereof of that fruit. It's a King James. Then your eyes shall be opened, but what's wrong with your eyes being open, don't we want to. Because the secular interpretation we want to be enlightened. But of course, what The Serpent's telling eve is that essentially God's holding out on you, right? For he knows that when you eat of that fruit, your eyes will be open, you'll live forever, and so do it my way. It's like, well, no, you were already going to live forever. The insinuation assumption is that God's holding out on you. Do it my way. Why is he trying to keep the delicious fruit away from you? Because he knows your eyes will be opened and Ye shall be as gods, but they were already like a God. They were sinless. They would have lived. But they chose an alternative way. They got woke. They saw a different way of looking at being disobedience. And so how does that tie to abortion? So abortion is the ultimate fulfillment of that first slide, Charlie. Because if we're God, then not only do we get to decide who lives and who dies. But we also get a live forever. A God in virtue of being a God is eternal, a God gets to live forever. And so this is the point that I make a lot in churches, Charlie, to try to rattle the souls of Christians awake to see the spiritual realities before them, that the left has slapped the sticker science over and politics over in order to disguise their true agenda. Yes. Abortion is the greatest sacrament of the religion of the secular progressivism. That's.

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"seth gruber" Discussed on The Charlie Kirk Show

The Charlie Kirk Show

04:19 min | 3 months ago

"seth gruber" Discussed on The Charlie Kirk Show

"So let's talk environment. But people say, this is more of a women's sovereignty argument, right? Right. Which is, I'm a woman. You don't have to tell me what to do. I get to make all my own choices. And how dare you come into my uterus, my body, and I'm the most important thing in the world. Yeah. My body, my choice. So Democrats, Charlie once said that blacks were the property of plantation owners whose land they lived on, and now they say that babies are the property of their mothers whose bodies they live in. But as Frank beckwith, the philosopher says, where one is, has no bearing on who one is. Your value does not change based off of where you find yourself. We'll have people watching this conversation from all around the world. They're not less valuable because they're not in Arizona. Our value does not come from our location. But thanks to American abortion law, Charlie, you can murder a baby through all 9 months of pregnancy for any reason or no reason at all. Why? Because it's in that location because it's in the mother's body. So what happens during the 6 inch journey called birth? Well, I guess the fetus ferry floats up and sprinkles magical personhood conferring fairy dust on the child. And when that last toe leaves the vaginal canal. Oh my gosh, it's a person now, Charlie. This is ridiculous, right? But that is the conclusion of the premises of the pro choice position because you and I don't usually meet pro choicers who defend infanticide. Now, Peter singer does, and I guess every senator except Joe Manchin and the Democrat party actually does because they vetoed The Bourne abortion survivors protection act that Ben sasse sponsored right after Ralph northam said. That's right. If a baby was born alive, we'd make him comfortable, resuscitate them if that's what the mother and then we'd let them talk about what to do with the baby. That's right. And they vetoed an anti infanticide Bill dozens of times. So they actually are foreign fantasize, but most Americans who identify as pro choice are not. So then the only conclusion you're left with saying is that the baby literally gets personhood and inalienable rights when the last total leads the birth canal. So unfortunately, the womb Charlie has become the most dangerous place for a human being to find themselves in America in 2021 today. You are more at risk of being murdered in the womb than you are residing or living in any dangerous city or crime ridden slum. And it's so tragic and perverted because it was the location that you were created to be protected and valued. People don't understand the beauty of the womb. Some people Charlie and mothers who are pregnant and get cancer. Will opt for treatment anyways. And in most circumstances, the baby is completely unaffected by the chemo. Because that's how resilient the womb is to protect a child. And we've made it the most dangerous location. Then it's degree dependency, right? Right. So, but you touched on this earlier, but the baby requires other help. I think they focus on this one the most. I think it's the weakest argument. Oh, it really is. The one that gets most young people motivated, it's the sovereignty. I'm important. You can't tell me what to do with my body. Get out of here. But let's talk about degree dependency. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So their primary claiming assumption is that one doesn't have a right to life or personhood until one can survive on one's own. But as we said earlier, that would disqualify the newborn as well. It would also disqualify the two year old. Yeah, your grandpa on life support in the hospital. But if I snuck into the hospital pro choicer and I slit your grandpa's throat, something tells me that you would say that was wrong or how a car crash victims that are at 17 years old that have to be assisted with breathing for a couple of weeks as we reconstruct their body. That's right. Ultimately, this vision just leads to eugenics, right? Chesterton once said that if darwinism was the doctrine of the survival of the fittest, then eugenics is the doctrine of the survival of the nastiest. Who said that? Well, that sounds like a joke. And of course, that is the survival of the fittest. The conclusion of that, which is that, oh, those who require more support, we should just give up on them. If you're not fit enough to survive on your own, you know, too bad for you. So.

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Fighting the 'My Body, My Choice' Argument With Seth Gruber

The Charlie Kirk Show

02:01 min | 3 months ago

Fighting the 'My Body, My Choice' Argument With Seth Gruber

"Let's talk environment. But people say, this is more of a women's sovereignty argument, right? Right. Which is, I'm a woman. You don't have to tell me what to do. I get to make all my own choices. And how dare you come into my uterus, my body, and I'm the most important thing in the world. Yeah. My body, my choice. So Democrats, Charlie once said that blacks were the property of plantation owners whose land they lived on, and now they say that babies are the property of their mothers whose bodies they live in. But as Frank beckwith, the philosopher says, where one is, has no bearing on who one is. Your value does not change based off of where you find yourself. We'll have people watching this conversation from all around the world. They're not less valuable because they're not in Arizona. Our value does not come from our location. But thanks to American abortion law, Charlie, you can murder a baby through all 9 months of pregnancy for any reason or no reason at all. Why? Because it's in that location because it's in the mother's body. So what happens during the 6 inch journey called birth? Well, I guess the fetus ferry floats up and sprinkles magical personhood conferring fairy dust on the child. And when that last toe leaves the vaginal canal. Oh my gosh, it's a person now, Charlie. This is ridiculous, right? But that is the conclusion of the premises of the pro choice position because you and I don't usually meet pro choicers who defend infanticide. Now, Peter singer does, and I guess every senator except Joe Manchin and the Democrat party actually does because they vetoed The Bourne abortion survivors protection act that Ben sasse sponsored right after Ralph northam said. That's right. If a baby was born alive, we'd make him comfortable, resuscitate them if that's what the mother and then we'd let them talk about what to do with the baby. That's right. And they vetoed an anti infanticide Bill dozens of times. So they actually are foreign fantasize, but most Americans who identify as pro choice are not.

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"seth gruber" Discussed on The Charlie Kirk Show

The Charlie Kirk Show

04:22 min | 3 months ago

"seth gruber" Discussed on The Charlie Kirk Show

"So, okay, so listen, Charlie, here. Okay, I'm Peter singer. I'm at Princeton University. Okay, I'm David Boonen. You're a very pro abortion philosophers who make hundreds of thousands of dollars defending their bigotry that not all humans are persons. And so listen, I don't violate your rights, Charlie, unless I violate your desires. So if you don't have a desire for something, if I take away that thing, I haven't violated your rights because you never desired it. So the baby in the womb, oops, I said baby, sorry, the untermensch non person blob of tissue, which is a nietzschean phrase. It's that later. They don't have a desire for a right to life. They don't desire to go on living. So in killing them, you actually haven't violated their rights. Okay, what's wrong with that? People with suicidal tendencies do not have a desire to go on living. By the way, suicidality is out the freaking window right now, thanks to Democrat policies who shut down the country amid young people stay at home. And young people are more people are dead from suicide in California than in COVID. And of course that's the part of the fall to the Democrat party. So I guess all those people were non persons, right, Charlie, because they didn't have a desire to go on living. What about Buddhists? Buddhists try to reach something called Nirvana. Nirvana is eradicating all desires. Now I'm not convinced that's possible, but let's say it is Charlie. The Buddhist Nirvana would not have a desire for anything, including the desire to go on living. So hey pro choicer, can we genocide Buddhist nirvana's because, you know, they like the pre born, don't have a desire to go on living. Okay, I guess it's wrong that you don't have a right to something unless you have desires for that thing. Then they say, well, the baby can't feel pain. So what's it matter to them? Okay, if I anesthetize you, can I murder you? What about people with the condition congenital insensitivity to pain? It's also called congenital analgesia. A condition in which you can not feel any pain. Can we kill those people pro choicer? Oh, I don't really like it when you apply my bigotry this side of the womb. Right, because it has consequences because as Lincoln pointed out, we're putting in place the premises that justify our own enslavement. So those are some of the arguments they make to say the pre born is not a person. They're not developed enough to have realized these capacities therefore we can kill them. Last one, I think, is self awareness. And the baby doesn't know that they exist. They're not aware of themselves as a unique autonomous individual. So what difference is it to them? Well, infants are not self aware either. If you dress up your cute little two month old and you stand in the mirror, you're two month old is not gonna say, oh, hi, I'm baby Jack. I look very cute. Thanks for the cute outfit, mom. Infants are not fully self aware. So with that same litmus test we can murder infants as well who don't meet the left's botched litmus test for personhood. But here's the main point I want to make. This is actually the same worldview that we have been contending against for millennia, Charlie. This is what conservatives actually need to understand. And I want to make this point, if I make none other, which is that the pro choice position is not a new ideology or worldview. It's not a new political vision. It's a very ancient and old one. It goes all the way back to genesis three when The Serpent tells eve. Try that Apple, eat it. You'll get woke, and then you'll truly see, you'll see an alternative way to flourish. And then your eyes shall be open and Ye shall be as gods. Right, because a God gets to decide who lives and who dies and a God gets to live forever. People have always been asserting power over others and coming up with certain litmus tests. Grounding them and cognitive functions, abilities, accidental properties, and then wielding that litmus test for personhood against the class of human beings that they don't like and how to vested interest in dehumanizing and mistreating. So the litmus test for personhood Charlie in 1940s Germany, they argued was appearance and religion. The litmus test for personhood in 1850 slavery America was they argued skin color and intellect. And the litmus test for personhood today that they wield against the pre born is that the baby is smaller, less developed in a different location and more dependent. We've simply swapped one form of bigotry for another. And we're doing the same thing that Lincoln warned southern states were doing, putting in place the premises that justify their own enslavement. So doctor Mildred Jefferson, who changed Reagan's mind, famously said. Today it is the unborn child. Tomorrow, it is likely to be the elderly and those who are incurably ill. Who knows, but that a little later, it may be anyone who has political and moral views that do not fit into the distorted new order. Well, that's where we are..

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"seth gruber" Discussed on The Charlie Kirk Show

The Charlie Kirk Show

04:24 min | 3 months ago

"seth gruber" Discussed on The Charlie Kirk Show

"What about level of development? I mean, come on, we're sophisticated people, Seth. You're trying to tell me that, you know, we have to get rid of birth control and all this. These are wonderful technological advancements we're told. And it makes life easier. Why should we inconvenience people? If you want to it's just a smidge, just get rid of the smidge. Yeah, yeah, yeah. There's a lot there, right? But that's what's the problem of living in a culture of death that has abandoned the moorings of a judeo Christian worldview. Is now we're lost at sea. And so what you said is very common to what we'd hear someone saying, of course. I hear it all the time. But by the way, I don't believe any of this stuff. Of course. But the point is, I'm trying to get everything you say there. Is packing pounds and pounds of worldview assumptions. Yes. And the window has been moved so much. That's right. And Reagan once said that the most dangerous ideas in a society are not the ones being argued for, arrhythmia C is Lewis, are not the ones being argued for. They're the ones being assumed. Yes. Because assumed premises, especially when undetected, can destroy a nation. You see, people tend to work out the logic of their position through their choices. And those choices reveal their deeply held worldview assumptions. But Charlie, how many people know why they believe what they can believe and can articulate a political and worldview vision that motivates and animates their beliefs, very few. But they're still operating off of those deeply held assumptions. And so when for the listeners of your show, whenever we're talking about these pro abortion arguments, people will just drop these lines that pack thousands of pounds of worldview assumptions, but they have no idea what they're operating off of. And so the job is an ambassador for the unborn and ambassador for Christ, a watchman like Ezekiel is in scriptures to be able to understand that and articulate that. Okay, so, you know, I guess it's a human Charlie, but I mean, come on. It's not very developed, and so because it's not very small. It's a penny. Right, come on. Because it's not very developed Charlie, don't you know, they're not self aware. They're not viable. They can't feel pain, they don't have any desires. These are some of the arguments we hear. Those all fall within that level of development argument. So let's see, let me do it this in about 90 seconds. Okay. You could take as long as you want. It's not viable, Charlie. What does that mean? Able to survive outside the womb. Okay, well, that's kind of strange because if you're only pro choice up until the point when the baby can survive outside the womb, then medical advancements every few decades enable us to make the child viable at earlier and earlier stages. So are you saying that once in trident intrinsic dignity and natural right to life is dependent on the external advancements of scientists and the ideas that they come up with to make children viable at earlier and earlier stages, that's a very strange political vision of natural rights. But of course, that doesn't make any sense because our baby's fully viable. No, if you leave an infant in a crib they die. You know, and what if mom tells the judge in a court of law, Charlie? Well, you know, judge, my lesbian dance theory professor at UC Berkeley, she told me I have bodily autonomy. She told me I have bodily autonomy, my body, my choice. My breasts are part of my body. So I didn't nurse my infant because I have bodily autonomy. What judge would accept that form of argument is that the baby has to fend for itself. Very few. The 6 week old once born against the fed for itself. That's right, yeah. So obviously the viability one doesn't work. And if you really want to go that route that you only have rights, if you're not dependent on someone or something else, then everyone dependent on insulin, heart pacemakers, kidney machines, life support, caretakers, would all be non person 50 million people. And you know, it's funny, Charlie, but the left says that, right? Mother earth, mother, what are they saying? We're all dependent on this mother earth goddess without which we can not continue to live. Oh, you mean like the baby can't continue to live apart from their dependency on their mother. So I guess all of us are not persons because we're dependent on the earth ridiculous. Okay. So viability doesn't work. Well, they're not developed enough so they don't have desires. Then this is a more fine tuning philosophical argument with Charlie. But you don't have to find will then you're not. Exactly. Or that you don't have a claim to X unless you have a desire for X and can understand that you've been denied X and so unless you're aware of your right to something and can articulate or have a desire for it. I guess you don't meet that list. This is enlightenment thinking gone wrong. Oh, totally. Yeah, this goes right back to the enlightenment period. And right back to you. This is Machiavelli. The beginnings of what became postmodernism relativism. It all started with Machiavelli. You're exactly right. Yeah. And relativism is just the bastard child of postmodernism. That's correct. And that's continued. So say why that's wrong. So,.

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Seth Gruber: Assumed Premises Can Destroy a Nation

The Charlie Kirk Show

01:46 min | 3 months ago

Seth Gruber: Assumed Premises Can Destroy a Nation

"Of development? I mean, come on, we're sophisticated people, Seth. You're trying to tell me that, you know, we have to get rid of birth control and all this. These are wonderful technological advancements we're told. And it makes life easier. Why should we inconvenience people? If you want to it's just a smidge, just get rid of the smidge. Yeah, yeah, yeah. There's a lot there, right? But that's what's the problem of living in a culture of death that has abandoned the moorings of a judeo Christian worldview. Is now we're lost at sea. And so what you said is very common to what we'd hear someone saying, of course. I hear it all the time. But by the way, I don't believe any of this stuff. Of course. But the point is, I'm trying to get everything you say there. Is packing pounds and pounds of worldview assumptions. Yes. And the window has been moved so much. That's right. And Reagan once said that the most dangerous ideas in a society are not the ones being argued for, arrhythmia C is Lewis, are not the ones being argued for. They're the ones being assumed. Yes. Because assumed premises, especially when undetected, can destroy a nation. You see, people tend to work out the logic of their position through their choices. And those choices reveal their deeply held worldview assumptions. But Charlie, how many people know why they believe what they can believe and can articulate a political and worldview vision that motivates and animates their beliefs, very few. But they're still operating off of those deeply held assumptions. And so when for the listeners of your show, whenever we're talking about these pro abortion arguments, people will just drop these lines that pack thousands of pounds of worldview assumptions, but they have no idea what they're operating off of. And so the job is an ambassador for the unborn and ambassador for Christ, a watchman like Ezekiel is in scriptures to be able to understand that and articulate that. Okay,

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"seth gruber" Discussed on The Charlie Kirk Show

The Charlie Kirk Show

03:37 min | 3 months ago

"seth gruber" Discussed on The Charlie Kirk Show

"Yeah, I got some. No, you're good. Let's look at what the science of embryology says. The type of science, by the way, that you're not going to hear from UC Berkeley. Or from Fauci, the high priest of progressivism. The science of embryology has been basically uncontested for decades. And yet you don't hear this anywhere in the mainstream media or in universities. From the moment of conception, there's a distinct living in whole human being. Distinct because it's obviously not your DNA, not your choice, as you like to say. The body and her body is not her body. And we know that because the baby could be a different gender than the mother. Obviously, pregnant women don't have male genitalia so the baby's distinct. The baby's living because dead things don't grow. The unborn child meets all the requirements for a living thing. And the unborn child is directing her own internal growth from within. So I have two kids, Charlie, my wife never woke me up in the middle of the night, shaking me saying, babe, come here, come whisper to my uterus. Come remind baby to grow because unborn children actually, they develop themselves from within independent of the wishes of their parents. And the child is whole. A whole human being is simply a human being who already has everything they need to realize their full growth and development as a participating member of the human species. And this is where our opponents Charlie get very confused when they say, well, I mean, maybe it's like biologically human, like it has like human DNA. It's like cellularly human, but it's not like a full human. Oh, you mean like? You mean what the Nazis called subhuman? Oh right, not full human just kind of subhuman. Same type of bigotry with abortion. But they say it might be biologically human, but it's not a human like you and I. So this last concept is the most important for us to articulate to the next generation and to the pro choice moderates and pro choice activists in our country. A whole human being is similar to a Polaroid photo. So when you take a picture and the photo gets spit out and you start shaking it waiting for it to develop. Now let's say you captured a picture of a phenomenal sunset, Charlie. And right as that photo gets spit out, I rip it out of your hands. I tear it up into the little pieces and I throw it to the side of the road. Now you might be frustrated with me. But what if I said Charlie, calm down, chill out? It was not a picture of a sunset. It was just a black smudgy on a white piece of paper. You'd probably say Seth, what are you talking about? The sunset was already there. We just couldn't see it yet. Everything that was necessary for the photo to realize its full development was already present when the photo got spit out. It just needed time. The same thing is true with our development and in virtue of being human, the unborn child already has everything he or she needs to realize all of the different cognitive abilities functions and accidental properties that will come along with the level of development, but they have an underlying nature to realize those capacities. Similarly, my wife recently found out that mendo reached their mental peak until their 40s. And our wives would probably be very encouraged by that, right? They're really holding out hope for us. But that doesn't mean we're not whole human beings now. So we all find ourselves on a different tick mark on the continuum of human development. But when did the continuum of human development begin? Well, follow the science back to the moment of conception. So that's what the science of embryology teaches. So our value doesn't come from our size or our appearance in how we look like other born people. It comes just in virtue of our humanity. So that tiny baby at three, four, 5, 6 weeks old. Actually looks exactly how a human is supposed to look like at that stage of development. And so that would be the size argument. So you talk about sled a lot and let's go through it for our listeners..

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"seth gruber" Discussed on The Charlie Kirk Show

The Charlie Kirk Show

04:50 min | 3 months ago

"seth gruber" Discussed on The Charlie Kirk Show

"We go. Charlie, what you've done is incredible here. Maybe Charlie Kirk is on the college campus. I want you to know we are lucky to have Charlie Kirk. Charlie Kirk's running The White House folks. I want to thank Charlie. He's an incredible guy, his spirit, his love of this country. He's done an amazing job. Building one of the most powerful youth organizations ever created, turning point USA. We will not embrace the ideas that have destroyed countries, destroyed lives, and we are going to fight for freedom on campuses across the country. That's why we are here. Hey everybody, welcome to this episode of the Charlie Kirk show in person the man the myth the legend, Seth Gruber, who is the most talented charismatic and I will say wise pro life male voice. I think just pro life voice in general is amazing. Seth, welcome. Thank you, Charlie. You have helped me so much to clarify my pro life views, not that I have different beliefs, but it's a better articulate them. And so you do this for a living. I do. I was raised in the pro life movement, actually. So my mother was actually the director of a pregnancy resource center in a Zeus of California in the late 1980s. So back then, there weren't very many pregnancy centers. I say this to, I have to interrupt you. You know that a lot of our listeners don't know what a pregnancy resource center. That's right. So what is a pregnancy resource? So the pregnancy research center is the pro life alternative to an abortion clinic. They provide all of their resources for free. And most of them, Charlie provide all of the same non controversial medical resources that an abortion center does. Minus the baby butchering part. And their entirely privately funded. I think a couple centers recently have gotten a little bit of state support, but usually it's all private donations, I keynote their banquets all around the country. And we outnumber abortion clinics, Charlie, about two or three to one. But most people don't know what they are. Most people don't. And I think the pregnancy resource centers have spoken some great ones. I spoke at a phenomenal one in San Antonio. One, you were at the one in California, I spoke at, but a lot of them, and I won't say where, not those two, they got to get their act together. And they think everyone knows who we are. It's like, no, most young people have never heard of a pregnancy resource. I talked to pastors who've never heard of pastor and it's just hard for them to kind of comprehend and believe that. So there is this kind of raging debate around abortion in our country. It shouldn't be much of a debate. And let's just kind of start at the basics, which is for a listener right now who might be agnostic on it without knowledge or just kind of people can make whatever decision as they see fit. What's wrong with that perspective? Why should a listener the Charlie Kirk show care about life? Yeah. Amen. I gave a talk to a Republican women's group recently in Simi Valley about why conservatives actually have to be pro life if you want to call yourself a conservative. And our founders said we hold these truths to be self evident, right? The translation for that for gen zers is duh. You know, we hold these truths to be done. This is obvious. It's axiomatic that we're endowed by our creator with certain inalienable rights. And of course, he put the right to life first. And Reagan talked about this at length in his book abortion and the conscience of a nation. Reagan, former governor of California used to be pro choice. And actually had some blood on his hands because of some bad bills. Yeah, he did. And doctor Mildred Jefferson, the first black woman to graduate from Harvard Medical School who started the national right to life committee. Once gave a defense of the pro life position, so persuasively on TV, Reagan watched it, wrote her a letter and said that he had become pro life because of her presentation. And he wrote his book abortion and the conscience of a nation. And he makes his point, I think, to your question about why life is the most fundamental right and why we as conservatives need to get that right right. He says that Abraham Lincoln recognized that we could not survive as a free country, as long as some men could decide that others are not fit to be free. And should therefore be slaves. Likewise, we can not survive as a free land today, as long as some men can decide that others are not fit to live. And should therefore be abandoned to abortion and infanticide. So there is no cause more important than affirming than the transcendent right to life of all human beings. The right without which no other rights have any meaning. Well, the other side will say Seth, look, it's the fetus is a size of a pebble. You can't possibly say that's the same thing as a 6 foot three person. Right, it's ageism, right? So that's what they say. We hate racism. We hate sexism in this country, but apparently ageism is not just acceptable, but it's been normalized. The child is not the same size as us simply in virtue of their development. So, let's look at, excuse me..

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Seth Gruber Is One of the Best Communicators of the Pro-Life Movement

The Charlie Kirk Show

01:47 min | 3 months ago

Seth Gruber Is One of the Best Communicators of the Pro-Life Movement

"Everybody, welcome to this episode of the Charlie Kirk show in person the man the myth the legend, Seth Gruber, who is the most talented charismatic and I will say wise pro life male voice. I think just pro life voice in general is amazing. Seth, welcome. Thank you, Charlie. You have helped me so much to clarify my pro life views, not that I have different beliefs, but it's a better articulate them. And so you do this for a living. I do. I was raised in the pro life movement, actually. So my mother was actually the director of a pregnancy resource center in a Zeus of California in the late 1980s. So back then, there weren't very many pregnancy centers. I say this to, I have to interrupt you. You know that a lot of our listeners don't know what a pregnancy resource center. That's right. So what is a pregnancy resource? So the pregnancy research center is the pro life alternative to an abortion clinic. They provide all of their resources for free. And most of them, Charlie provide all of the same non controversial medical resources that an abortion center does. Minus the baby butchering part. And their entirely privately funded. I think a couple centers recently have gotten a little bit of state support, but usually it's all private donations, I keynote their banquets all around the country. And we outnumber abortion clinics, Charlie, about two or three to one. But most people don't know what they are. Most people don't. And I think the pregnancy resource centers have spoken some great ones. I spoke at a phenomenal one in San Antonio. One, you were at the one in California, I spoke at, but a lot of them, and I won't say where, not those two, they got to get their act together. And they think everyone knows who we are. It's like, no, most young people have never heard of a pregnancy resource. I talked to pastors who've never heard of pastor and it's just hard for them to kind of comprehend and believe that.

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"seth gruber" Discussed on The Charlie Kirk Show

The Charlie Kirk Show

01:59 min | 3 months ago

"seth gruber" Discussed on The Charlie Kirk Show

"There is this kind of raging debate around abortion in our country. It shouldn't be much of a debate. And let's just kind of start at the basics, which is for a listener right now who might be agnostic on it without knowledge or just kind of people can make whatever decision as they see fit. What's wrong with that perspective? Why should a listener the Charlie Kirk show care about life? Yeah. Amen. I gave a talk to a Republican women's group recently in Simi Valley about why conservatives actually have to be pro life if you want to call yourself a conservative. And our founders said we hold these truths to be self evident, right? The translation for that for gen zers is duh. You know, we hold these truths to be done. This is obvious. It's axiomatic that we're endowed by our creator with certain inalienable rights. And of course, he put the right to life first. And Reagan talked about this at length in his book abortion and the conscience of a nation. Reagan, former governor of California used to be pro choice. And actually had some blood on his hands because of some bad bills. Yeah, he did. And doctor Mildred Jefferson, the first black woman to graduate from Harvard Medical School who started the national right to life committee. Once gave a defense of the pro life position, so persuasively on TV, Reagan watched it, wrote her a letter and said that he had become pro life because of her presentation. And he wrote his book abortion and the conscience of a nation. And he makes his point, I think, to your question about why life is the most fundamental right and why we as conservatives need to get that right right. He says that Abraham Lincoln recognized that we could not survive as a free country, as long as some men could decide that others are not fit to be free. And should therefore be slaves. Likewise, we can not survive as a free land today, as long as some men can decide that others are not fit to live. And should therefore be abandoned to abortion and infanticide. So there is no cause more important than affirming than the transcendent right to life of all human beings. The right without which no other rights have any

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The BEST Pro-Life Arguments Around With Seth Gruber

The Charlie Kirk Show

01:59 min | 3 months ago

The BEST Pro-Life Arguments Around With Seth Gruber

"There is this kind of raging debate around abortion in our country. It shouldn't be much of a debate. And let's just kind of start at the basics, which is for a listener right now who might be agnostic on it without knowledge or just kind of people can make whatever decision as they see fit. What's wrong with that perspective? Why should a listener the Charlie Kirk show care about life? Yeah. Amen. I gave a talk to a Republican women's group recently in Simi Valley about why conservatives actually have to be pro life if you want to call yourself a conservative. And our founders said we hold these truths to be self evident, right? The translation for that for gen zers is duh. You know, we hold these truths to be done. This is obvious. It's axiomatic that we're endowed by our creator with certain inalienable rights. And of course, he put the right to life first. And Reagan talked about this at length in his book abortion and the conscience of a nation. Reagan, former governor of California used to be pro choice. And actually had some blood on his hands because of some bad bills. Yeah, he did. And doctor Mildred Jefferson, the first black woman to graduate from Harvard Medical School who started the national right to life committee. Once gave a defense of the pro life position, so persuasively on TV, Reagan watched it, wrote her a letter and said that he had become pro life because of her presentation. And he wrote his book abortion and the conscience of a nation. And he makes his point, I think, to your question about why life is the most fundamental right and why we as conservatives need to get that right right. He says that Abraham Lincoln recognized that we could not survive as a free country, as long as some men could decide that others are not fit to be free. And should therefore be slaves. Likewise, we can not survive as a free land today, as long as some men can decide that others are not fit to live. And should therefore be abandoned to abortion and infanticide. So there is no cause more important than affirming than the transcendent right to life of all human beings. The right without which no other rights have any

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"seth gruber" Discussed on The Charlie Kirk Show

The Charlie Kirk Show

04:14 min | 3 months ago

"seth gruber" Discussed on The Charlie Kirk Show

"Despicable. We're not talking about anything inconsequential. We're talking about women's health, women's right to choose. And the millions and millions and millions of American women who have felt the need to have an abortion just about every one of us knows someone in that situation. Yeah, actually, I don't, Chuck Schumer, but again, the one thing that really wakes them up and really fires them up is this issue. Okay, so I'm going to kind of pepper in some clips throughout all of this. And kind of talk about this. The first of which is this, which is, there's some talking points about roe V wade, and again, I'm not really on social media. I'm told that there's just an enormous amount of chatter happening on social media about these issues. And we've had the great Lila rose on here, Seth Gruber, Kristen Hawkins who has one of the best pro life videos I've seen in a long time, turning point USA posted it. I saw it on YouTube, and I have a very, I'm a tough grader. And that is one of the best videos I've seen. She did an unbelievable job against this incredibly just mean activist. And so one of the arguments is this is that outlawing abortion doesn't end abortion, it ends safe abortion. So in Texas, we saw that just the heartbeat bill in Texas allowed it to happen, actually has decreased the number of abortions. Really positive. There are more babies than ever before. And the question is, do you believe that abortion is a medical procedure or do you think it's something different? I believe life begins at conception, not just that I believe it's what's true. Life does begin at conception. And when life begins is the most important question. When does the human life become worthy of protection? And so we have laws to protect the innocent of a three year old or a two year old, one that can not protect themselves. So why is that though? What is the reason for it? And so this was something the Berkeley people never thought of. And I asked them a question, I said, do you believe in the moral principle? In the moral principle of creating law, that says that the strong have a moral obligation not to crush the weak, or that the strong need to prevent the weak from being crushed, and if you say no, then you're a eugenicist, which actually is where the abortion movement came from or you're a darwinist. So you believe that the survival of the fittest, I believe, that there is a moral obligation that all human beings created in the image of God image bearers should have the protection of the strong of the older and the bigger. That's baked into all of our laws, by the way, our laws are already codified with the moral quote. One of my favorites is they say, Charlie, you can't legislate morality. That's all you do is your legislating morality. All laws point to some morality. Of course, to some good or what you think is good. Aristotle wrote that in the ethics that all human behavior points towards some good, whether it be anti murder laws, anti theft laws or arson or a good example is, I mean, just kind of take a sidestep that seemingly unrelated. Why is it that you must slow down in a school zone? Why are you not able to go 75 miles an hour when passing an elementary school? It's because there's a moral claim that the children that will be crossing on the sidewalk matter. Why do buses have to stop before they cross a railroad, or a rail track? I guess railroad. Why is that? They open up their door, just in case the bus is not able to move, there needs to be built into the law that children have a way to escape that bus, just in case. All low all laws point to some morality. There's no such thing as an agnostic law. There isn't. Now, whether you think that should be done on a federal level or a state level, totally appreciate that. That's where the constitution allows a lot of different safeguards. And a lot of different of that. But this idea that laws can be kind of be morally agnostic. It's just not true. And if that would be true, then we wouldn't have the very basic laws that have built our civilization. Don't take people's stuff. Don't murder them. Even seat belt laws are focused on the preservation.

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"seth gruber" Discussed on The Charlie Kirk Show

The Charlie Kirk Show

03:22 min | 3 months ago

"seth gruber" Discussed on The Charlie Kirk Show

"Off. Thanks for being here. Next question. Hey Charlie. Hope you're doing well. Oh, quick question. Are you going to be back here tomorrow on, okay. But I will make a free promotion for Seth Gruber, who's coming to campus tomorrow for a pro life event. So you guys should go to bed. Very disappointed. I miss speaking with you. But okay, my question is we can be right now, man. My question is, so you talk a lot about how you're talking to people on campus and how now that people are like atheist or agnostic, they don't really have moral backing or they don't have backing for their morals because they don't have religion and it's just sort of like an opinion war. Don't you think that religion is in some sense even has less backing than opinion? Because there's no evidence for your opinion. There's no way to logically reason through your opinion. You just refer to a book written 2000 years ago and you're like, this is the word nothing else matters. Just listen to what this book says. It seems like as a very evidence based logical type person like you, it doesn't make sense to just read morals and believe them. Okay. Yeah. So the question is, are the teachings of the Bible true? That's a good question, right? The answer is, of course, I mean, if you look at the decalogue, the ten commandments, you live your life by the ten commandments, you will flourish. If you honor your parents, do not murder, do not steal, do not covet, you honor the Sabbath, if you honor your creator and have no gods before him, and you do that for a long period of time, that law is what will set you free. So the question is, are the teachings of the Bible true? And judge a tree by its fruit and look at western civilization. We live in a pretty amazing civilization. Separation of power is consent to the governed constitutional republic independent judiciary. These things just don't kind of fall out of the sky. Well, I guess you could say they fall like man out of heaven, but I'm not sure you would agree at that. But it came from the teachings of the Bible. So there's a logical fallacy in your question, and I don't think you intended it just because something is old doesn't mean it's untrue or that it's not beautiful. Things that are old that last, that should actually make you appreciate them more. Not less. If something's able to have staying power for 2000 years, that should make you take pause and say, I wonder why, throughout all of history, throughout the enlightenment, post enlightenment that people still believe in this book, maybe there's something that is speaking to the soul of the being, not just the reason itself. But there is evidence for a higher transcendent being, I can get into apologetics. We can get into the evidence for the resurrection. We can get into why I believe Jesus Christ rose from the dead. We could talk about that in a very compelling historical evidence behind that. But let's just talk about the creation of the universe. A scientist will agree even atheistic scientists at the universe started a specific moment. There was the Big Bang in order to have physics be consistent in order for something to happen something must have caused that something to happen. You would agree with that, right? So an object at rest will stay at rest is a law of Newtonian physics, right? Therefore, you can deduce very easily using logic if there was a starting point, there is something that made that starting point happen. We as Christians call that God. And therefore, if you have time and you have space and you have matter, you therefore then can deduce and use very basic logic in order for time space and matter to exist, you must have something that is timeless, spaceless, and is transcends all those different things. And we believe that to be God..

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"seth gruber" Discussed on The Charlie Kirk Show

The Charlie Kirk Show

06:14 min | 7 months ago

"seth gruber" Discussed on The Charlie Kirk Show

"So, what? That last part was like well in spite of the events misses Lincoln, how was the play? I figured I had to contribute something catastrophic. We've been so kind of strangely positive tonight. So, you know, you know, Charlie, when Michelle and both of us are boomers, when Michelle and I, well, actually she's not. I'm the last 64s last generation boomer. When we looked at what it was going to cost us to stand in opposition to the restraining order, and I've told the congregations, but we just laid out the list. And nothing on that list was more valuable to us than liberty. For our children and our grandchildren. So once you've surrendered at all, you're never afraid of them. There's nothing that they can take from you and the fear goes away. And I think if the boomers are going to lead in this revolution of liberty, it's going to have to be the realization that we have lived a life of materialism and now we get to live a life of sacrifice for the next generation. Amen. And you looked at it. And one of the reasons why the boomer mindset is kind of difficult to change is because built into the kinetic memory of their upbringing was every year getting better was post Carter, post 1980. There was growth, wealth, opportunity, and pure meritocracy in America for 27 years until the 2008 financial crisis. It was. Almost on an erupted life improvement. Materially. And I just want to say then you go tell young people, hey, just go work harder. Oh, really? You shut down the country for a year. What job was I supposed to do? And then all of a sudden I was able to get a job and everything cost twice as much. You could kind of see how that kind of breathes some kind of generational tension, but I do think that the boomers are our hope. I really did. One thing that boomers possess that the other generations known is we remember what America. That's exactly right. And this is a very important point, which is why I think the pivot and the reversal can happen, which is why you're seeing so many people that were traditionally liberals in that generation be like, hold on a second. They're taking up statute of the Thomas Jefferson. The Biden regime is calling in their stimulus bill. They're calling people who have birthing people, not mothers. You just so you know. And for a certain generation, that's even a bridge too far. So I think that there's a great amount of hope there. I really do too. I don't even know how to ask this question because I don't even know what Voss and bread to preserve. So take it on YouTubers. YouTubers, okay. I don't think that's each young. He knows what he's doing back there. No, should we engage in debate with opposing views online? If so, what talking points should we watch out for? I do a fair amount of debates. We have a whole show at turning point USA called debate night, with Charlie Kirk. It's hard to find people to debate me. We have a whole team that's dedicated to nonstop. I kid you not. Reaching out to people on the left, it's a nonstop thing. We probably get one in 200 to agree, right? And so you can draw your own conclusions there. But yeah, that's a frustration. To the great credit of a couple people, they have come out and they've been really respectful. I think we've been respectful of them in the contents been terrific and really educating of people. Kind of chomping at the bit to kind of have a COVID debate really soon. That would be really fun. Given a lot of what's happened. But yeah, look, I am a big believer in a couple of things. That every single one of you and everyone watching online and everyone listening to this podcast because we're going to rear this as a podcast is you should lean into the disagreeable conversations. You should not stray away from them. They're so critically important. And for no other reason then you really don't have a civilization as soon as those stop. As soon as those stop you're basically have already kind of siphon yourself off. And that's not to say you have to argue with unreasonable people. But I guarantee you that if every one of you went home tonight, you thought there's one reasonable person that doesn't yet see the light. Really focus on that person. So what's the best way to do it? Ask questions. Ask them questions. Why do you believe that? What backs that up? Has it ever worked before? Why are people that are fully vaccinated and boosted and wearing masks all day long getting the virus? Does that make you question anything else? Have you ever heard of VAERS? Is that data high or low? Like these are really interesting questions, right? And really quickly, they might immediately start to call you a name or try to get into the core the kind of core logical fallacies of dismissal arguments from authority, red herrings, all these different things. Just keep your calm. And remember when you have these debates, everybody, it's more about style than substance. You heard me right. You might say Charles. These are more about substance. No, no, no. If you are screaming at somebody and pounding the table about the declaration and the truth, it doesn't matter what you just said. It's important to get substance, got me wrong. Never say anything that's untrue. But if you are loving and if you are compassionate and if you have the lower heart rate than the person you're talking to, you have a far better chance of actually persuading them. So here's something you need to ask yourself the question of. No, it's very important. Do you want to convince them or do you want to win the argument? Because they're not the same thing most of the time. Now, that doesn't mean you have to lose the argument. The question is, what does winning look like? Is it getting the better points or convincing them that you might have something to offer? Those are two totally different things. Now, for me, if I'm debating somebody and it's filmed, I'm thinking about the people at home, totally different. I couldn't care less about what some professor has to say about atheism, right? Whatever. Or Seth Gruber helped me get prepared for that pro abortion argument. He's got a lot of problems, right? And you guys can watch that debate. I was thinking about the millions of people that watched the debate and literally millions of people watched the debate. But most of you guys aren't doing film debates, right? Most of you guys are Thanksgiving tables or dinner tables and you're having these really serious conversations. Don't try to win, try to convince them because that's what winning actually isn't that scenario. Let's go through this last one. And then we'll have Joseph come up. And I like this because this is kind of along the lines of our galatians three..

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"seth gruber" Discussed on The Stuttering John Podcast

The Stuttering John Podcast

04:02 min | 8 months ago

"seth gruber" Discussed on The Stuttering John Podcast

"On, man. Hey, there is a huge difference between yeah. There's a huge difference between me and goofy the dog. His both of his teeth are on the top. Well, thank you so much, Hal Bill. All right, nice to be here, man. We'll see you again or whatever if I don't see you first. What do you think the house sparks? Call me. It's very wonderful performance. Thank you. He's a lot of fun. He's a he writes his own material. That is one of those characters. I swear to God, it's like the easiest character to do as I've grown up and Kentucky, just being able to just kind of pull from my life experience as it were. Everyone is complimenting you so you know, funny you were. Thank you. Thank you very much. The squeegee says no script amazing. Amazing the both of us, I guess you know. Yeah, there you go. Well, he's a John's a good interview. He used to he's used to asking the questions other people are afraid to ask. Now, I even my mom just loved it. Okay. I'm really, that you can entertain my mom that's incredible. Oh, yeah. Absolutely. Proud to. I want to play you something and I can't wait to get your opinion. You saw this yet, but wait. Okay, here we go. Now, you probably did see it, but if you didn't, I can't wait to get you comments. This is the Madison quote. Yeah, no, I haven't seen this with the audio up. Yeah, so I've just seen it go through my feed. Okay, so here we go. All right. This is insanity at its best. Okay. Matt speaker, imagine you've just walked out of his chamber and outside is a gorgeous sunset. You have a Polaroid camera and you snap a beautiful picture and the great photo Pence out the front. You hold it and shake it. Waiting for the picture to appear. But suddenly someone walks by and snatches your photo, ripping it to shreds. You're stunned. You cry, why did you destroy my picture? The person replies. Oh, it wasn't a picture. It wasn't fully developed yet. All of us in this room realize how asinine that reasoning is. That photo was transforming into a beautiful image. This illustration by Seth Gruber is simple, but it's what our nation is done to the most precious image of all..

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Is Roe v. Wade on the Ropes?

The Charlie Kirk Show

02:09 min | 9 months ago

Is Roe v. Wade on the Ropes?

"We did know that the abortion case was taken up by the United States Supreme Court, the third branch of government article three, 9 justice on the Supreme Court in that way for a 150 years, the current regime wants to change it. And they want so essentially the issue is this is that Mississippi has passed a law that outlaws abortion at 15 weeks. The Mississippi solicitor general has decided to take that law and defend it through court, the pro abortionists, the people that are on the side that it's not a human life, it's just something else called the cells, the center for reproductive rights, they're arguing out in front of the Supreme Court. Now, I'll be very honest. My expectations were low. I'm a very pro life individual. I speak out about the scourge of abortion. We've done that on many different occasions here on this program and on our podcast. In fact, I encourage you to check out the Seth Gruber conversation from this last weekend. Connor, what great timing that we posted Seth Gruber when we did? We were holding on to that sets of dear friend. He is one of the most articulate pro life activists. I encourage you to check out that podcast, the best case against abortion you will hear. And I did not expect to have much action. I expected the justices actually Alito and Thomas I expected to probably draw a line. I didn't expect some of the middle justices like Gorsuch or Kavanaugh or Amy Coney Barrett to start to signal that they were somewhat sympathetic with the Mississippi abortion law. Now we have a lot of sound that I want to get to here. We have a lot of different kind of cuts that I want to get and the name of the case because you're going to be hearing this time and time again is Dobbs versus Jackson's women's health organization. Dobbs V Jackson and it's looking like for just kind of a bystander that roe versus wade might be on the ropes.

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"seth gruber" Discussed on The Charlie Kirk Show

The Charlie Kirk Show

04:30 min | 9 months ago

"seth gruber" Discussed on The Charlie Kirk Show

"They don't talk about transgender. They don't talk about guns. They don't talk about drugs. Every time a Supreme Court seed opened up during Trump administration, they're going to take away abortion. If that doesn't tell your listeners, how much they care about abortion. I don't know what will. That's always been the goal though to entirely upend society so that they can recreate it in their own image. And murdering the baby and championing their slaughter is how they do that. In closing, are we winning? I think that we won't win until the church decides to abandon and let me quote you. They're comfortable Christianity and embrace a comprehensive Christianity to get our boots off the ground to do what our friend Heidi St. John says to get off the bench and start contending on behalf of the pre born child to learn from our spiritual forefathers Dietrich bonhoeffer, martini Mueller, eberhard bethy, Sophie Scholl, Oscar Schindler William wilberforce. Frederick Douglass Harriet Tubman. Let's go down and down the lines, George woodfield. That's right, who put truth and loving their neighbor before their own reputation. I think you and I sense a stirring happening in the country. I think we all sense it. But until the bride of Christ wakes up and decides to contend on behalf of life first and then procuring every other right liberty pursuit of happiness, then we will not. I will say this though in closing, I think, is positive. And it's not all positive. Number one, the Texas abortion law is a good start. It really is. That's right. And I do believe in incrementalism. Some pro life people say, it doesn't go far enough. I was like, man, you gotta be a little more prudent about this seriously. You didn't Apollo slavery overnight. That's right. You're the future to slave acts. You had all sorts of threats that you had to get rid of before you were able to get to the Emancipation proclamation. But when you look at Texas, it's actually popular. Yeah. And that's a good thing. It's winning. And what's also interesting is if you read Barry Goldwater, I have a lot of respect for, but he was pro abortion. He wrote, he was right on so much. He was so wrong on this. Mostly because of his second wife and all sorts of stuff. But he wrote that Republicans must abandon the abortion issue. There was a lot of chatter about that in the 70s and 80s. Yeah, that's right. And it shocks a lot of people now that it's actually the most non negotiable issue. That's right. And this is something that I tell churches that are pro life but not political or conservative. Like, oh, I don't like republics all this I'm like, you do realize that if you go give any pro life one liner at any of our events, that'll be the number one applause line. That's right event. Number one. That's right. There is a home for it and it's growing. And so the fact that pro abortion Republicans, there's no place for them in our party. End of story. That's right. That's a really good thing. That's a good thing. Yeah. Yeah, it is amazing. Because you need a political home for this stuff. That's right. Because some people say, oh, we have to win culture with you both. We are political animals, Aristotle said, if you just, if you get rid of the political apparatus in the vessel, I think it's a huge mistake. Yeah, that's right. And I'm not saying it's everything though. And we have to wake up to this. You know, Aristotle once said that tolerance and apathy or the last version of the society. And we are in that phase right now. We're at the end of the day. We don't wake up and start contending on behalf of the preborn. This American experience. We're tolerating. It's over. We're tolerating the destruction of the pre born and we're that's right. So we wonder why every other right we've taken for granted is to take care of it. Exactly. Why are they putting masks on kids? Well, everyone pushing its pro abortion. But I'm saying that they're doing it. It's the same sort of moral. That's right. Slide. That's right. Seth this is great. How could people follow you or support you? Yeah, thank you. So I have a podcast called una boarded with Seth Gruber because we're all on a boarded unvaccinated is Reagan said I've noticed everyone who's four abortion has already been born. It's one of the most beautiful pro choicers get very frustrated with that line because it is so ironic that you sanctioned the slaughter of children in a womb you once came from. So on a boarded with Seth Gruber, I do two episodes a week, one with me, one with a guest. And so if you want to become pro life ninja and flipping around demolishing abortion bigotry wherever you find it, my podcast is home for you. Life ninja. So you can watch it on YouTube or subscribe and hit you on campus. That's right. And I have before. I was scheduled at UC Berkeley actually Charlie, the day that it shut down in March of 2020. We got to do it the turning point with it. We got to get it with controversy. You know what I mean? And we're working on some stuff and we're working on it. I know you season here. And then my website Seth Gruber dot com. Charlie you and I have a friend and a very generous church partner of mine who has offered to underwrite all of my travel expenses and honorarium for churches, youth groups or Christian schools who would like to bring me out to equip and fire up their people to defend life, but maybe who don't have the. So how do people find to make.

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"seth gruber" Discussed on The Charlie Kirk Show

The Charlie Kirk Show

05:36 min | 9 months ago

"seth gruber" Discussed on The Charlie Kirk Show

"We go. Charlie, what you've done is incredible here. Maybe Charlie Kirk is on the college campus. I want you to know we are lucky to have Charlie Kirk. Charlie Kirk's running The White House folks. I want to thank you. He's an incredible guy. His spirit his love of this country. He's done an amazing job, building one of the most powerful youth organizations ever created, turning point USA. We will not embrace the ideas that have destroyed countries destroyed lives and we are going to fight for freedom on campuses across the country. That's why we are here. Hey everybody, welcome to this episode of the Charlie Kirk show in person, the man the myth the legend. Seth Gruber, who is the most talented, charismatic and I will say wise pro life male voice. There you just polite voice in general committed. So that's welcome. Thank you, Charlie. You have helped me so much to clarify my pro life views. Not that I have different beliefs, but it's a better articulate them. And so you do this for a living. I do. I was raised in the pro life movement, actually. So my mother was actually the director of a pregnancy resource center in a zusa California in the late 1980s. So back then, there weren't very many pregnancy research centers. I say this too, I have to interrupt you. You know that a lot of our listeners don't know what a pregnancy resource. That's right, yeah. So what is a pregnancy resource? So the pregnancy research center is the pro life alternative to an abortion clinic. They provide all of their resources for free and most of them Charlie provide all of the same non controversial medical resources that an abortion center does. Minus the baby butchering part. And their entirely privately funded. I think a couple centers recently have gotten a little bit of state support, but usually it's all private donations, I keynote their bank with all around the country. And we outnumber abortion clinics, Charlie, about two or three to one. But most people don't know what they are. Most people don't. And I think the pregnancy resource centers have spoke with some great ones. I spoke at a phenomenal one in San Antonio. One, you were at the one in California spoke at. Yeah. But a lot of them and I won't say where, not those two, they got to get their act together. Right. And they think everyone knows who we are. Like, no, most young people have never heard of a pregnancy research. I talked to pastors who've never heard of pastor and it's just hard for them to kind of comprehend and believe that. Yeah. So there is this kind of raging debate around abortion in our country. It shouldn't be much of a debate. And let's just kind of start at the basics, which is for a listener right now who might be agnostic on it without knowledge or just kind of people can make whatever decision is they see fit. What's wrong with that perspective? Why should a listener the Charlie kirks show care about life? Yeah. Amen. I gave a talk to a Republican women's group recently in Simi Valley about why conservatives actually have to be pro life. If you want to call yourself a conservative. You know, and our founders said we hold these truths to be self evident. The translation for that for gen zers is duh. You know, we hold these truths to be duh. This is obvious. It's axiomatic that we're endowed by our creator with certain inalienable rights. And of course, he put the right to life first. And Reagan talked about this at length in his book abortion and the conscience of a nation. Reagan, former governor of California used to be pro choice, and actually had some blood on his hands because he did. And doctor Mildred Jefferson, the first black woman to graduate from Harvard Medical School, who started the national right to life committee. Once gave a defense of the pro life position so persuasively on TV, Reagan watched it, wrote her a letter and said that he had become pro life because of her presentation. And he wrote his book abortion in the conscience of a nation. And he makes his point, I think, to your question about why life is the most fundamental right and why we as conservatives need to get that right right. He says that Abraham Lincoln recognized that we could not survive as a free country, as long as some men could decide that others are not fit to be free. And should therefore be slaves. Likewise, we can not survive as a freelance today, as long as some men can decide that others are not fit to live, and should therefore be abandoned to abortion and infanticide. So there is no cause more important than affirming than the transcendent right to life of all human beings. The right without which no other rights have any meaning. Well, the other side will say Seth, look, it's the fetus is the size of a pebble. You can't possibly say that's the same thing as a 6 foot three person. Right, it's ageism, right? So that's what they say. We hate racism. We hate sexism in this country, but apparently ageism is not just acceptable, but it's been normalized. The child is not the same size as us simply in virtue of their development. So let's look at excuse me. Yeah, I got something. No, you're good. Let's look at what the science of embryology says. The type of science, by the way that you're not going to hear from UC Berkeley or from Fauci, the high priest of progressivism. The science of embryology has been basically uncontested for decades. And yet you don't hear this anywhere in the mainstream media or in universities. From the moment of conception, there's a distinct living in whole human being. Distinct because it's obviously not your DNA not your choice if you like to say the body and her body's not her body. And we know that because the baby could be a different gender than the mother. Obviously, pregnant women don't have male genitalia so the baby's distinct. The baby's living 'cause dead things don't grow. The unborn child meets all the requirements for a living thing..

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"seth gruber" Discussed on The Charlie Kirk Show

The Charlie Kirk Show

05:25 min | 1 year ago

"seth gruber" Discussed on The Charlie Kirk Show

"And so and and so the. This is the real debate. That's happening here. And i think that it's actually a debate that we are going to win. And so i want to encourage you that those of us that care about life and we want we believe every single life is worthy and deserving of protection. I want you tonight to dismiss one thing that i know all of you have had come across your radar screen mattis. Cynicism things can't change the abortion lobby. They get pills on demand. We're just we're going to be can. But i don't think we can think transformationally i want to encourage you that we have to think bigger than ever i want you to. I want to encourage you that we can actually turn the corner rooms big time and i believe that the biggest issue and you saw it in this video the biggest issue was not the question of whether or not we have the truth. We know that the question is whether or not can we get a pregnant mother to look at an ultrasound screen. That's a mechanical issue. And you think about it. It's not like we need to find a better that we have the truth. The barrier is whether or not a mother is actually understand the full facts and knowledge around that very specific decision and so when we talk about this issue and actually building a culture of life and some of the arguments that are made. I'm gonna tell you. One thing that i think is a couple of things that are super important. And we all know the statistics. And seth gruber. Here does an amazing job. He's a great friend of mine. One of the best life speakers out there. And i always text him it. He knows all the numbers so well eight weeks. A baby can feel pain at twenty one to twenty three days a heartbeat begins up and six weeks when i think it becomes detectable in some ways on ultrasound and then you go through all the numbers. It's pretty amazing. And but even beyond that we ask ourselves the question. When does life begin or we ask somebody else and we're winning so i want to encourage you to continue to ask that question. That is a winning question. When does life begin and it begins at conception but that only wins. If you're able to win the moral argument and let me prove it to you. There's a dialogue. I had with a pro-abortion activists in washington. Dc that went very viral. Had twenty million views. And i asked her. I said i didn't even know is being filmed. Someone just came up to me. I was just super curious and it was really calm. It was really respectful. I said when does life begin. She begins at conception. Then are you a pro-abortion activists. And i was introduced to their next argument and get ready for this. She said well. We need population control and like we have too many people and too many children. It's bad for the environment and we don't need unwanted on wanted people and so i'm making the moral argument not to have that person exist so don't assume just because you can win people over that that's a human being that is actually going to be applicable in this kind of new morality that we live it and so it all comes back to this idea of who are you and why are you here and in whose image are you made and that really is a theological debate. It comes back to ultimate purpose. And that's what i love about. The center is that it actually brings people to that type of ultimate purpose and salvation. Because if we just if we look at this myopically. I don't think we're gonna win if we look at this. Broadly in transformationally. We know we have the truth. We see people's lives changed and we also know. This is a very very important point that when people are actually able to see the entire complexity argument their life has never the same. Do you notice that we have nothing to hide as pro-lifers and they are always hiding something. Do you notice that. That's how you know you're on the right side of the argument you know you're on the right side of the argument you're like i'll show you all my materials all that you were my facility interview. My staff audit my uncle. Like what else do you need me to do. Right whereas the planned parenthood. It's like one way glass like you're not allowed within fifty feet. No total anonymity. What's done in darkness will eventually come to light and the deeds of darkness and that what that has done has to be done behind a protection of a one one way glass and the total emnity. That know what they're doing is not right and so the question is how do we shine more of a light on the goodness and the truth of all that. And here's the beginning to two calls to action which includes supporting the center. We have to think. Way big as pro-lifers. We're thinking way too small. And what do i mean by that. We have to think of like How many of you remember when there was a culture of smoking in this country right and we kind of like laugh at it. It's kinda stigmatize. We could do the same thing with abortion. We can have a culture of life where all of a sudden. There's there's no smoking signs everywhere and we do it with grace and compassion and mercy and love where people think. It's unthinkable to actually have an abortion. That would be an amazing win. And how did that happen. Happen through mass media private conversations telling the truth being unafraid to engage on the civic and the law side which. I'm going to get to in a second. 'cause sometimes pro-lifers don't want to get involved in the laws of things we have to wherever we possibly can. That's an idea of something that actually changed seatbelt. Laws is another example. You might not like them. It was a change. People used to bright around on the back of pickup trucks. Is that a thing. Somebody used to do that. Everyone's laughing though. Yeah i did. That's perfectly safe. And we had a candle to.

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