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04:47 min | 1 year ago

"sentinel island" Discussed on Stuff They Don't Want You To Know Audio

"It's. We can tell you the story of the. Encounter that actually had video footage which you mentioned earlier right? Yeah, it's one of the only existing is really the only existing footage that I have seen of the sentinel lease. It was in the spring of nineteen seventy four, when there's a visit by this team of anthropologists, and they're filming a documentary called men in search of man, and there was a national geographic photographer with them. They're also armed police officers. They actually wore padded armor. They had under these jackets and again. Who's to say what that does against Eros? Hopefully that would have been. You know some kind of protection, but who knows sure And there is actual footage that you can see I believe that's the nineteen seventy four footage unless it's. From earlier I it's the only one that I've seen I think then in September nineteen ninety one. After both confirmed and suspected deaths at the hands of the Sentinel is the Indian government added this this zone. It's a five kilometer three mile exclusion zone around the island, and it's under the provisions of the end of and Nicobar Protection of Aboriginal Tribes Regulation It's called A. N.. P. A. T. R.. Yes love a good acronym. Right we, we should also. Nobody died in the nineteen seventy-four incident, but oh I got shot through the thigh. I think the. That was their reaction to giving the gifts. Yeah, so it's interesting, because before this exclusion zone existed, before gets extended even. We see this history of people trying to peacefully hide. Stay away from US outsiders. And then at some point in this occasional you know every every few decades every century, or so in this occasional badgering from the outside world, the Sentinel ease stop. Putting up with this, who knows what internal folklore they've? They have now for the people that come visit them every few decades. Yeah, there are, there's okay, so there are a couple of indications that they might have some ancient myths similar to those of the on gay. But. It's just in the The only way we know is that when that two thousand and four disaster occurred. They got the high ground, so they knew. To they knew that some sort of natural disturbance was coming, and that may be based on an oral history about similar events in the distant past shared with The people would later become known as the on gay. So that's possible. But can you imagine we're entirely speculating here? Can you imagine what oral histories makes us now based on those four kids who returned yeah? Right I mean that sounds insane, you know. They took me. They killed my parents. They brought me back with this strange beings ships we. We saw things that looks like this that we have no way of really describing to you. Right and these deaths at the hands of the Sentinel ease residents still occur in two thousand six two men were illegally fishing for mudcrabs off the coast, nor Central Island and the Sentinel. Killed Them. An Indian Coast Guard helicopter tried to go retrieve the bodies, and it was warded off by. Bows and arrows. And ambitious explorers anthropologist, attempting to make first contact may have already violated the prime directive in some ways. Yeah, they may have accelerated the age of the call, the civilization or culture on the island, and by age I don't mean just age in terms of numbers I mean the technological age. The may have gone from the stone. Age To something else because we have to remember. These are people they may be living differently than many other people on the planet, but that doesn't make them not human. They're still really smart. Because human beings are for the most part. Insanely Super Villain level brilliant in comparison to other living things. And that means that they took salvaged metal, and they made weapons. They made ornaments, they jewelry. But as we as we get to. The end of today's show. We know that the. The vei in today's episode is.

"sentinel island" Discussed on Stuff They Don't Want You To Know Audio

Stuff They Don't Want You To Know Audio

14:40 min | 1 year ago

"sentinel island" Discussed on Stuff They Don't Want You To Know Audio

"The answer to your question. Matt they pose before the break is we don't really know the residents of North Sentinel Island. Sinton Elise are one of the most mysterious populations on the planet and there aren't many of them estimates range from his few as fifty people to maybe as many as four hundred the last census that the Indian government conducted that touched upon that area Only fifteen people I think. Three women and twelve men but yeah that that's something we're going to see here as we get into the story The people that you find when you're searching for people on North Sentinel island generally aren't the all of the people that are on the island right because you see when they conducted that most recent senses the way they conducted it was by taking a boat by getting special permission to go inside the include the exclusion zone and then trying to get close enough to see if there was anyone on the shore and then immediately high tailing it out post-haste and there's a reason for that they are violently opposed to outside contact of any kind. This behavior has been universally consistent for thousands of years. They resided on this island. This population living in much the same manner as their ancestors for Millennia and from what we can guess the Sentinel. These people practice traditional hunting and gathering with no. I think it's a leap to say NO KNOWLEDGE OF AGRICULTURE. But no practice of it. Yeah there. There's no evidence of agriculture. That's been seen in the few times that people have actually gotten close enough to check it out Their diet consists of mostly fruits plants. Stuff that's found on the island coconuts forest plants Sometimes they'll David not sea turtles fish small birds and wild honey in some researchers. Compare the sentinel lease to the own gay tribe which is another Tribe that's on. The Enemies. Islands their indigenous peoples to one of the other islands and we should just say here that the sentinel used. That name is a name given to them. If we're ever to speak with one and could speak with someone of you know the North Sentinel Island. They would not call themselves right exactly this. This culture has several barriers to communication. Yes and we'll get to these but are an excellent example of the one of the closest analogues that we have sure to this population. At least we being the part of the species. That doesn't live on this island. Yes we were forced to guess so like the Sentinel lease the on gay. Were Hunter Gatherers. Living out an ancient tradition ancient set of subsistence practices. Write that date back. By the way to some of the earliest human civilization practices that we know of today. So these are these people are doing some of the first things that people did still well the sentinel ease. We suspect yes not the youngest. Yes because unlike the sentinel ease the on gay were somewhat assimilated to their detriment in one thousand nine hundred one. The population was registered at six hundred. Seventy two after colonisation. There were fewer than one hundred left ultimately like the number kept going down in the fifties. There was only one hundred fifty or so and this was due to the brutal acts of the colonizers also unanticipated factors like exposure to non native diseases. Which is one of the biggest problems making contacts right right right. It's one of the problems with When Europeans came to the north and South American continents the same things occurred for them. It wasn't a problem right the one same for the native populations. Yes it was. It was a horrific thing. And there's something else here that on a personal level mystifies and disturbs me and it does. It disturbs me. Because I can't explain why it's happening and I don't understand and I don't think that there's any technology that people would have had to do this on purpose. There's something deeper play. Well anyway Too much office here. Here's what's happening today. Younger is still around but a major cause of the decline in the population is both the changes in food. Habits brought about by contact with the outside world. But here's the scary thing nowadays. They're one of the least fertile and most sterile communities on the planet about forty percent of married couples are sterile own. Gay Women rarely become pregnant before the age of Twenty Eight. Infant and child mortality is in the range of forty percent. Now we could explain we. We could explain infant and child mortality due to quality of life right for the Family. The mother for the kid so on but the idea that an entire population without you know some clear environmental cause just starts dwindle that way. Yeah I don't like that law it's frightening. It's it's not. It's not something that I can explain. Would welcome anybody to write to us. And let us know you know is there. Some EPA genetic factor at play did the community decide not to have children or is there some kind of outside forced the acting on them some in some way rial exposure of some sort that they're unaware of like forced sterilization which many governments have done Which would yeah which would be explicable. At least that's a mundane 'cause that's less scary than some sort of switch turning you know what I mean. Yeah so also. They have been victims of sexual exploitation and and alcoholism forced labour. All the all the terrible expected things that happen often to these tribes. There may be a lesson for us to learn with the sentinel lease Through the perspective of the own game observers have compared the sentinels community to communities that existed in the Stone Age make weapons. They make tools Pretty bad ass with bows and arrows. Yeah like three hundred something feet. They can narrow. Yeah Yeah three hundred and four hundred. I think They do not appear to make fire at least again from what we can observe and their language is unclassified. Meaning it's unintelligible even to tribal communities from close by islands like they brought in on gay person there to attempt to speak with them but they either couldn't get close enough to understand the shouting because of all the arrows or the simply have been the sense in lease simply have been isolated for so long again for thousands of years and their language has become. Its own unintelligible thing. Yeah that's that that is incredible because that certainly doesn't happen that's one of the least regularly occurring things to have a language that is so isolated. That's incredible now prior to to the European encroachment. Well we're going. Call it their Their ancient traditions by the the tribes people who live around North Sentinel Island that the people on North Sentinel Island were cannibals the own gay. They apparently were aware of North Sentinel islands for some time. But the first European report didn't actually occur until seventeen seventy one. Which isn't that long ago. Just before the United States became a thing that's true. I didn't think of it in that perspective. Yeah this British Surveyor named John Ritchie Past. The island on a ship called the diligent The diligent was a hydrographic survey vessel owned by the east India company policy and get a spooky sound effect when we say east India Company. Just booze just to put some booze in their perfect. That's appropriate yet. So Ritchie made one note where he essentially said he saw a multitude of lights. We don't know if this means fires. Yeah but he saw it from a distance. He made a short note about it. The boat continued on and no one in the West would make any sort of references island for another hundred years. Yeah it's just the one guy was like. Oh whoa look at that. That's a that's not water. It's definitely an island so we fast forward to March eighteen sixty seven. That's when Jeremiah Humphry. He's the officer in charge of the end. My knees he journeyed to North Central Island on the trail of some convicts who escaped from the Penal Colony. That was there called Port Blair and okay so he. He's approaching the island. He's escorted by police and what they're called great enemies and these are tribes people from again kind of like what we were discussing before a different tribe but I guess similar enough to where perhaps there could be communication. He saw some ten men on the beach naked. Long head with bows and arrows shooting fish and apparently the sentinel is spot of the boat and they hid and the great enemies on board were visibly frightened and warned. Humphrey the leader here that the islanders had a reputation for cannibalism and Humphry said Yep. I'm not going there. He'd never actually landed. Yeah which was surprisingly smart of him right to listen to the experts in the area. He did have a police escort with him so it is fascinating that he didn't but I guess maybe just wasn't. He wasn't confident enough in the people there with him. Sure I don't know we'll also notice that at this point despite this reputation. I'm sure it's largely exaggerated for cannibalism. Yeah the Sentinel. Ease are hiding their avoiding innovating right. They're not confronting. And then also there's a note here they're described as long haired by fray but when you see footage of the SCILLIES PEOPLE. Today there are no long haired people. There's just a little bit of footage in your right So interesting because it seems as though things are changing in that same year again eighteen. Sixty seven An Indian merchant ship called the Niniveh was wrecked on the reef surrounding the shore and their captain was a real piece of work so eighty six passengers survived. Twenty crew members survived. They make it. They crash on that reefs surrounding island. These are also very treacherous waters and boom celebration time They survive these. What one hundred six people survive on the third day the native population which had been completely in hiding attacks the captain his strategy is to take the ship's lifeboat and run away. Yeah to get picked up by some other ship that's coming by Passing Brig and then a Royal Navy ship came to rescue the remaining survivors who had held the natives off by for several days by throwing stones and brandishing sticks and again. This is a story that gets around So nobody else goes to that island for another thirteen years. Yes in in January. Eighteen eighty armed. British expedition manages a successful landing on North Sentinel Island. There led by the officer in charge of the enemies by this time Twenty year old fellow by the name of Maurice Vidal Portman They went through the island in search local people and they had again some of people from the greater and enemies population guiding them. So what did they find? Well the first thing they came upon were a network of pathways where people had been traveling by foot There were several freshly abandoned villages. That they that they saw again with with nobody around. They kept serving the island. They found it had fertile soil. There were grows of tropical hardwoods. And this this gentleman. Portman didn't see a single human being other than the people that he brought to the island. So was it a ghost island. Maybe but I don't think so. Eventually after several days of searching the party discovered just six sentinel lease it was an elderly couple and they had four children with them. And you know as as they tended to do. I guess in the colonial Path they abducted these six people and they took them with them right. Yeah they took them the parents and children. The father was by far. The oldest of the six They took them back onto the vessel with them but as soon as they were leaving the island probably because they were exposed to new.

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"sentinel island" Discussed on Stuff They Don't Want You To Know Audio

Stuff They Don't Want You To Know Audio

07:50 min | 1 year ago

"sentinel island" Discussed on Stuff They Don't Want You To Know Audio

"The answer to your question, Matt? They pose before the break is. We don't really know the residents of North Sentinel. Island Sinton Elise. Are, one of the most mysterious populations on the planet, and there aren't many of them estimates range from as few as fifty people to. Maybe as many as four hundred, the last census that the Indian government conducted that touched upon that area only fifteen people. I think three women and twelve men. But yeah that that's something we're going to see here as we get into. The story the people that you find when you're searching for people on North Sentinel island generally aren't the all of the people that are on the right because you see when they conducted that most recent senses the way they conducted, it was by taking a boat, getting special permission to go inside the include the exclusion zone, and then trying to get close. Close enough to see if there was anyone on the shore, and then immediately high tailing it out post-haste, and there's a reason for that. They are violently opposed to outside contact of any kind. This behavior has been universally consistent for thousands of years. They resided on this island. This population living in much the same manner as their ancestors, for Millennia and from what we can guess, the Sentinel, these people practice, traditional hunting, and gathering with no. I think it's a leap to say no knowledge of agriculture, but no practice of it. Yeah, there, there's no evidence of agriculture that's been seen in the few times that people have actually gotten close enough to check it out. their diet consists of mostly fruits, plants stuff that's found on the island, coconuts, forest plants sometimes they'll David not sea, turtles, fish, small birds and wild. Wild honey in some researchers compare the sentinel lease to the own gay tribe, which is another tribe that's on the enemies, islands, their indigenous peoples to one of the other islands, and we should just say here that the sentinel used that name is a name given to them if we're ever to speak with one, and could speak with someone of you know the North Sentinel Island. They would not call themselves. Right exactly this. This culture has. Several barriers to communication. Yes, and we'll get to these, but the on gay are an excellent example of the. One of the closest analogues that we have sure to this population at least we being the part of the species that doesn't live on this island. Yes, we were forced to guess. So, Like the Sentinel Lease, the on gay were hunter gatherers living out an ancient tradition, ancient set of subsistence practices. Write that date back by the way to some of the earliest human civilization practices that we know of today. So these are. These people are doing some of the first things that people did still. Well the Sentinel ease. We suspect yes, not the youngest. Yes, because unlike the sentinel ease, the on gay were somewhat assimilated. To their detriment in one, thousand, nine, hundred one, the population was registered at six, hundred, seventy, two after colonisation, there were fewer than a hundred left, ultimately like the number kept going down in the fifties, there was only one hundred fifty or so, and this was due to the brutal acts of the colonizers, also unanticipated factors like exposure to non native diseases, which is one of the biggest problems making contacts right right right? It's one of the problems with when Europeans came to the north and South American continents. The same things occurred for them. It wasn't a problem. Right the one same for the native populations. It was it was a horrific thing and there's something else here that. On a personal level mystifies and. Disturbs me and it does it. Disturbs me because I can't explain why it's happening and I don't understand and I don't think that there's any technology that people would have had to do this purpose. There's something deeper play well, anyway, too much office here. Here's what's happening. Today younger is still around, but a major cause of the decline in the population is both the changes in food habits brought about by contact with the outside world, but here's the scary thing. Nowadays they're one of the least fertile and most sterile communities on the planet about forty percent of married couples are sterile. Own Gay women rarely become pregnant before the age of twenty eight. Infant and child mortality is in the range of forty percent. Now we could explain. We we could explain infant and child mortality due to quality of life. Right for the family, the mother for the kid so on. But the idea that an entire population. Without. You know some clear environmental cause. Just starts dwindle that way. Yeah I don't like that law. It's frightening. It's it's not. It's not something that I can explain welcome anybody to write to us. And let us know you know. Is there some EPA genetic factor at play? Did the community decide not to have children, or is there some kind of outside forced? That's acting on them some in some way rial exposure of some sort that they're unaware of like forced sterilization, which many governments have done which would. Yeah which would be explicable. At least that's a mundane 'cause. That's less scary than. Some sort of switch turning. You know what I mean yeah. So! The also they. Have Been Victims of sexual exploitation and and alcoholism. Forced Labour. All the all the terrible expected things that happen often. To these tribes there may be a lesson for us to learn with the sentinel lease. through the perspective of the on game. Observers have compared the sentinel community to communities that existed in the Stone Age make weapons. They make tools the pretty bad ass with bows and arrows. Yeah, like three hundred something feet. They can with an Arrow. Three hundred and four hundred I think they do not appear to make fire at least again from what we can observe, and their language is unclassified. Meaning it's unintelligible even to tribal communities from close by islands like they brought in on gay person there to attempt to speak with them, but they either couldn't get close enough to understand the shouting. Because of all the arrows. or the simply have been the sense in lease simply have been. Added for so long again.

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"sentinel island" Discussed on Stuff They Don't Want You To Know Audio

Stuff They Don't Want You To Know Audio

03:37 min | 1 year ago

"sentinel island" Discussed on Stuff They Don't Want You To Know Audio

"It's a part of the and Amon Archipelago. This is a grouping of the intimate and Nicobar Islands. It's located at the crux of the Bay of Bengal in the end of NC. Now just really give you some degrees here so you can find it on your globe if you've got one handy there between six degrees and fourteen degrees north latitude and Two degrees and ninety four degrees east longitude now that's fourteen hundred kilometers from mainland India on one side that's like a hundred and seventy miles, and then a thousand kilometers from Thailand. And that is about six hundred twenty one miles, so it's kind of in the center of those. Basically, if you zoom out far enough on Google on Google, maps in you draw a line between the center of in this case I'm using SRI, Lanka because it's like the island at the bottom of India, there and to the center of Thailand. This'll be located pretty close to the center of that line. Just if you're looking at Google maps or something, and it's these these two sets of islands, the end of an and the Nicobar. Islands is some of the most remote spots on the entire planet. Yes, some of the islands around this area are referred to in one of my absolute favorite books in the world, the atlas of Remote Islands I highly recommend you. Check it out if you are interested in exploration and remote locations. It's a great book, but enough of happily the island's just on their own. There are what nearly six hundred only nine are open to foreign tourist. Yeah, very very rural locations in it in addition to being very remote. But they are open to tourism those nine. Come into play in the rest of our story yet. They're very much open to tourism. Be Damned Yacht. Isley and you might say well who? This guys I. I'm I'm pretty good at pointing to countries on the map and I've never heard of a country called the and Demon and Nicobar. No worries trick question. There is no country. It is a territory of India and it is controlled by India. Generally, speaking is composed these two islands and think about it in terms of latitude. So any of the islands located north of ten degrees, latitude are known as denials while located south of that latitude are called Nicobar islands. That's easy enough. Let's pretty easy. Nominally these territories and the we're talking about today, nor Sentinel Island belong in the South and administrative district, which is again part of this Indian territory. The nearby South Sentinel Island is uninhabited. It occasionally receives. Visitors mostly adventurous divers who like. The Alberto that go somewhere where no one. Ever Been. I've I'm sure they'd also like. I'm sure they sound exactly like well. People who people who want to venture. Yes, no one lives there and. Here's the thing. Although the government of India legally possesses both north and South Sentinel Island and again all of the. All of the Nicobar Islands they do not have. Any installations..

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"sentinel island" Discussed on Stuff They Don't Want You To Know Audio

Stuff They Don't Want You To Know Audio

04:50 min | 2 years ago

"sentinel island" Discussed on Stuff They Don't Want You To Know Audio

"Or twenty three and me. And that thing is what that thing is what law enforcement are using Jeff. Ed match to find these killers in these cold cases. So it is a third party. But it's it's a user based third party system. It's not coming directly from the ancestry websites. No. I always thought when I was reading about this. I always thought it was GED match. Yeah. Initially. And I thought maybe it was a some sort of dating service. It's just it's a I forget, what is a genetic something match. Yes. Accurate. And there's this guy we ended up talking to his name is Paul holes. And he's kind of well known in this fear because he and several other people were the guys who actually. I guess they caught they caught the Golden State killer because they discovered through forensic genealogy that they had they got this guy who had all these markers. And again, as we said before they didn't have his DNA on file with the gene genealogy sites. They had his cousins and his extended family, but they ended up catching him. But this whole guy tells you this whole story about how difficult that was that process of narrowing down. Because there's so many stink in humans as we said. Should we check up again or just we'll just check up at the end. Well, let's even for the Elissa far away. Okay. Let's see how many more people are born in how many more people remain alive. Also, we didn't mention when we check last time over one hundred seven thousand people died today, at least when we Jau. Yeah. Today today as well today so far poor one out as it's one thousand how many over one hundred seven thousand that's poor one hundred seven thousand out it's bad for the economy. I know it's bad for the environment too. There was another speaking of death and expert there was another person who met an untimely end quite recently this year, and they died in a way that was not familiar to most of the mainstream public is safe to say, but very familiar to you and to everyone listening to this show. There was a murder at north sentinel island. And I can't remember how long ago was it that we first examined north sentinel islands twenty fourteen maybe when he fourteen maybe started his video, I think first, and then we did an audio episode on it north sentinel island just for the the quick and dirty gist of it is a tiny tiny place off the coast of India. The bay big. All and for thousands and thousands and thousands of years. They the population of this island has lived alone with relatively little human contact in the age of European expansion. Some people were actually stolen by Europeans several of them died if few them return, but even before then and ever since then for hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of years, the people of north central island have violently attacked without exception. Every person who tries to contact them or get on shore. I say that guy had it come. And that's right. Yeah. He knew and for for a while for several years after he did this episode. It might have been something that your fellow listeners relegated to the category of neat but relevant until that is till that is one individual felt spiritually called to contact. Act the people of north sentinel island despite all the warnings. And despite the he took multiple trips. He went there three times. Jon Allen Chow is twenty six years old at the time. Felt like it was his mission in life to convert the people on the isolated north sentinel island community to his spiritual belief system in his case. It was Christianity. Everybody warned him. Everybody told him not to do it. He did not listen he. He saw himself as a missionary, you know, he saw himself as someone who's willing to risk their lives for the greater good. And he did. And I'm not sure where the greater good comes into play. But I was being a little callous at the time of the show. Okay. Had it come no one deserves to die. But you you you are punished for being stupid when you're yeah. And not listening to listening. He didn't speak any of the related local languages. Also, look people can't really communicate with folks of north sentinel. We don't understand their lanes, which I didn't know a lot about this until I started reading up on the story..

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North Sentinel Island, cut off from the world, remains a mystery and it's not the only one

Your Brain on Facts

07:50 min | 2 years ago

North Sentinel Island, cut off from the world, remains a mystery and it's not the only one

"sentinel island" Discussed on The Ross Bolen Podcast

The Ross Bolen Podcast

04:25 min | 2 years ago

"sentinel island" Discussed on The Ross Bolen Podcast

"Holiday season when so many people get so stressed and anxious and depressed, it's like the hardest time of the year emotionally and stress level wise for everyone. It just seems perfect that if you were looking for something new to try to kinda help you relax or get through the day or whatever. I mean, this is something you can do on your lunch break, you do it in the morning when I wake up you do when you get home from work to try to refocus and remove your mind from the professional environment. However, you use it is a million different ways that meditation even without getting weird can be ineffective tool. So I wanted to share the basics of it today on how the shit you meditate, and I have I have done my duty. Now, I can move on next segment. North sentinel island Twitter rabbit hole. Lot of you here just for this. So you remember back in exa where I did stuff to Wikipedia when you're high about north sentinel island the island whose people have lived there for fifty five thousand years and fiercely reject contact with the outside world, then you remember on Rb P one eleven last week when this came up again because dude named Josh Allen Chao went to north sitting Weiland and got got by the locals all over the weekend. Dude on Twitter that goes by the handle respectable law, which really weirds me out. Divulge some new information about north sentinel island and it enough. So that it went absolutely bonkers on Twitter, forty two thousand eight hundred fifty eight retweets on the first tweet in the thread where he says this is again respectable laws. The name of the sky. It's this is a non ass- Twitter account with a picture of goofy. As the avatar and the bio says anti-corporate pirate who gains access to court houses with full proof 'cause play of a respectable white lawyer. I don't know what it just I gotta tell you the person who gives me the information for the sake of, you know, transparency. Here's the tweet says there's been a lot of talk of the missionary killed by the natives of north sentinel island. They're probably so aggressive because of this weirdo MAURICE vital Portman or Vidal Portman. So here's a big threat about this creep and some facts from my decade long obsession with the island. So this guy respectable law much like us. He's known about North Carolina for a while much longer than I have. In fact, he's been researching in obsessed with forever. And he knows about this guy who we have not yet discussed, and then I never found information about anywhere in any of my previous research sessions Maria Vidal Portman and there's a photo of him. He's a white guy with all these tribesmen of north sentinel island the sentinel lease and he stands out like a sore. Thumb forty two thousand fuck and re tweets so he starts going down through this. He says the lease are often. Describe his uncontactable. But this is not strictly true. They had very significant contact in eighteen eighty with this freak commander Portman Portman was the black sheep third son of some minor noble. He says who was assigned by the English rule navy to administer pacify enema n- islands a job he pursued from eighteen eighty to nineteen hundred with the full measures with the full measure of his own perversity. And there's another photo, and it starts to get creepy. It's all the black sentinel lease people, and then this dude sitting in the middle in a chair, and he's obviously white, and then there's a bunch of white guys. Like behind him wearing robes starts to get weird. Turns out this guy Portman was erotica obsessed with the end enemies, and he indulged his passion for photography by kidnapping members of various tribes and posing them in mock Greek homo, erotic compositions, and there's a photo of three I guess sin. Leigh's men perhaps another tribe posing naked. In very mock, Greek homoerotic composition that's pretty spot on description. This guy keeps on going during his twenty years and sexualize heart of darkness Portman measured and catalog every inch of his prisoners bodies with an obsessive focus on genitals. He gets deep down into that uses a bunch of different pictures one is of a small child. He says just imagine being a Neolithic person spinning a few weeks in this guy's rotating, nausea. And there's like thirty more tweets in this stretch of what what is this thread in his thread?.

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00:32 sec | 2 years ago

Nooses found by Mississippi Capitol before Senate runoff

"The best of our ability to to this community in deep red taxes democrat or ROY Gloucester Republican cruise by only three percentage points. Jim Ryan ABC news. Dallas Indian authorities will not retrieve the body of an American suspected dead on north sentinel island for fear of confrontation with the local tribe. Jon Allen Chao is believe. To have been killed by the sentinel. Lease after breaking local laws to visit them earlier in the month. The decision to hold off on getting the body came following several meetings and surveillance trips to document the situation. Local authorities say they have not ruled out the possibility of finding the body at a later date element, Financial Engines brings us this look at money news. Pat's here we are often trading that nice rebound. We saw yesterday. Just a pleasant memory today. Stocks are down this morning. Possibly reflecting news on trade in an interview with the Wall Street Journal, President Trump said it's highly unlikely the US would delay imposing a twenty five percent tariff on Chinese goods. He also suggested imposing a ten percent tariff on iphones, laptops, imported from China right now, the Dow is down one hundred seventy points, and NASDAQ is down thirty eighth ESPN's down twelve home values continue the climate.

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Indian police struggle to recover body of American killed by island tribe

Here & Now

03:42 min | 2 years ago

Indian police struggle to recover body of American killed by island tribe

"Indian authorities are trying to figure out how to recover the body of a young American missionary who was killed on a remote Indian island by a tribe. That has resisted the outside world for thousands of years before he was shot with arrows and buried by the tribe on the beach, Jon Allen Chao wrote that he thought God was protecting him from authorities who try to keep people from visiting north sentinel island joining us now is Jill mcgivering BBC. South Asia editor she's in London. Hi, jill. Hi. So what more do we know about the circumstances surrounding his death? And what was he doing there? Well, the thought is being a little bit cautious about saying very much. You can imagine this is extremely sensitive. But we all hearing a little bit of information from the fishermen who apparently were paid by John to take him out to this area. They say that he'd made several attempts to go out to north sentinel island to make contact with this group, and that this particular instance, he took a canoe with. Him and went from the fishing boat to the canoe and manage to land that in itself is actually geographically a little bit difficult because there's a big coral reef, which is one of the barriers that's being between the outside world on the sentinel. As people the victim and say that almost as soon as he set foot on the send he was attacked with arrows and a page to die. And then one of the issue is now is really verifying. Exactly what happened and also retrieving his body, which is still Ed, but it seems clear from what he wrote before he died that he knew that he was in danger going to this island. Yes, I think he was very aware of the dangers this tribe in particular is known for being the the most uncontactable and the most hostile to contact of all the many tribes in this area. We're talking about a very very remote area there about three hundred islands basically right in the middle of the day of Bengal. And in terms of things like flora and fauna, you're thinking more Burma and Thailand and Indonesia than than really India, but it comes under Indian. Jurisdiction. What more do we know about the people on this island? They're all quite a lot of photographs of them that have emerged from very long distance. But obviously, it's difficult to know a lot about the way of life. There are thought to be between fifty and one hundred and fifty of them left. It's thought that they may have been living on that small island, which is described as being around the size of Manhattan, full something up to fifty five or sixty thousand. Yes. So possibly the oldest on contacted tribe left on the globe the have been attempts in the pasta, contact them. But they have been very hostile to anyone attempting to engage with them and giving a strong sense if they want to be left alone that quite physically small in stunt, you that almost unclothed just went something that looked like a loincloth, and they have very dark skin. So at this point the task to try to get a Jon Allen chows body back that that is not going to be easy. Indian officials. Don't even travel to this island can his body ever. Be recovered. It presents the authorities with a tremendous dilemma, I think partly it's to do with culture in a way it's to do with diplomacy and the respect that they won't want to show the family. The may also be practical issues one of the concerns about maintaining this no contact rule with these with many of the tribes. But this one in particular is to do with the risk to them of having any contact with people from another part of the world because they do not have immunity to thing. This like, you know, the basic common. Flu will come in cold syphilis, all sorts of things that have been in the past instances where the tribes have made some contact and large numbers of them have died, and as I'm saying already with this tribe, which looking about dwindling small number

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American killed by isolated tribe on North Sentinel Island in Andamans

Tim Conway Jr.

00:28 sec | 2 years ago

American killed by isolated tribe on North Sentinel Island in Andamans

"Ready to give his life pages from John Charles journal show. He met the tribe once last week before he was killed. It was a close. Call Schaal wrote that his own bible blocked, an arrow. Indian anthr- apologised p c Joshi says there's a reason it's illegal to visit the island. I don't think he wanted to commit suicide. He wanted to live than it was a foolish. Action on his spot after the first attack a child wrote a prayer in his journal asking God to forgive the tribe. If they killed him. Several fishermen helped shall reach the

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American missionary killed by tribe on remote Indian island

Joe Walsh

00:38 sec | 2 years ago

American missionary killed by tribe on remote Indian island

"Islands coup. Fishermen say John Chow paid them to take him to the remote island home of the sentinel lease tribe, deep in the Indian Ocean. It's thought Mr. Chao a missionary was met. With a flurry of arrows soon office setting foot on north sentinel island. It is illegal to visit the indigenous tribes of the end of oil to protect that way of life and prevent the spread of outside diseases. The sentinel is thought to number about one hundred and fifty people one of several groups that shun all contact with the outside world. Police say a murder investigation is now underway BBC correspondent Andrew plant reporting from Delhi. Amazon says a technical error on its website

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05:03 min | 3 years ago

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"There were a native tribe and native intimate tribe, and there is a, they live on one island where there is a road that goes through their reservation essentially on this island, they're kind of in the center of the island, and then there's they're like some tourist areas and other Indian locals live on the outer side, the rim of the island, and there's some civilization out there and this road that goes right through their reservation was in use for a while. But then it was decided by the Indian government that pay, we should not use. This road anymore. We're, we're interrupting the life of this tribe this relatively on contacted tribe because I think nineteen ninety eight was the first time that they were officially contacted. But then tourism kind of became the thing where this road be gin. They these companies started taking human safaris down this road where they would get in, you know, vans at large jeeps and pay people money to take these trips to perhaps get a chance. Look at some of these tribes people just living their lives and looking at them as though they're in a zoo or something. It's a pretty horrifying thought, especially just feels very itchy, first of all. But then the second thing is that you are disturbing these people in their way of life. Every time a single vehicle goes by on this road that they make an encounter. It's it's pretty crazy. You can also just grab a taxi by the way and go through there, you have to get through a military checkpoint and you're not allowed, at least according to the authorities there and all the signs they put up. You're not allowed to take any pictures photography or video of the Jarwa tribe, which is, I guess, a good thing. But how do you police, you know that many people in that many vehicles going through at the time. It's just not great in the other thing are destination resorts which are all around these islands, specifically those nine islands that are inhabited or I guess, eight. But there are resorts and there's a tradition for local peoples who live on these islands peoples of, I guess, western civilization who burn their refuse, that's what they do. They've got, you know, they're small residences and they burn their trash. These larger resorts though, make so much trash that there's no way to. Really burn it with without creating massive issues. So then it becomes a different massive issue where it's just a giant pile of trash, and there are multiple resorts around this these islands. So anyway, this just the one thing to think about if north central island ever becomes contacted to the point where there are buildings and businesses being put up on the island, we can kind of see what might happen to try. Right? Yeah. You can also, in addition to the point you've made met you, you can also check out videos of some of these native people being taunted to dance for food and in similar things like that. So the question is now that we know the stuff they don't want you to know on the sentinel side, what is humanity to do is the government of India? Correct. To create this exclusion zone and to force all traffic. To keep this island essentially lost in time. Or should something else be done? If so, what an, if so, how. We, we don't have the answers have been clearly, Matt. I'm going to go out on a limb and say, you're also on the side of leave them alone. Yes, but I'm aware of the inevitability that they will. I mean, they will be engulfed by civilization at some point time is very long and humidity expands ever. So we'll let me ask you this. What if what, if someone in the population decides to build several boats and what they under their own power go into the outside world, what then. Yeah, it's different because that goes both ways this human need for expansion. So at this point, we don't know the answers. No one does. We wanted to introduce you to one of the most secret places in the world. Right? One of the one of the places where you most likely will never get to travel and don't do get a chance just don't. And and probably you shouldn't, right. I'm I'm having a tough time saying that. I know it's the right thing to do. I know you're right. But again, we want to hear from you. Thank you so much for tuning into.

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05:11 min | 3 years ago

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"And then at some point in this occasional, you know, every every few decades every century or so in this occasional badgering from the outside world, the sentinel ease stop putting up with this. We who knows what internal folklore they've they have now for the people that come and visit them every few decades. Yeah, there are. There's okay. So there are couple of indications that they may have some ancient myths similar to those of the on gay, but. It's just in the the only way we know is that when that two thousand and four disaster occurred, they got the high ground so they knew to they knew that some sort of natural disturbance was coming. And that may be based on an oral history about similar events in the distant past shared with the people later become known as the on gay. So that's possible. But can you imagine we're entirely speculating here met? Can you imagine what oral histories makes us now based on those four kids who returned? Yeah, right. I mean, that sounds insane. You know. They took me, they killed my parents. They brought me back with this. These strange beings on ships, we, we saw things that looks like this that we have no way of really describing to you. Right? And these deaths at the hands of the sentinel Ie's residents still occur in two thousand six. Two men were illegally fishing for mudcrabs off the coast north sentinel island, and the sentinel ease killed them. An Indian coast guard helicopter tried to go retrieve the bodies, and it was warded off by bows and yet and ambitious. Explorers, Nandor politics, attempting to make first contact may have already violated the the prime directive in some ways. Yeah, they may have exceleron needed the age of the co- the civilization or culture on the island and by age. I don't mean just. Age in terms of numbers. I mean, the technological age. The may have gone from the stone age to something else because we have to remember these are people they may be living differently than many other people on the planet, but that doesn't make them not human. They're still really smart because human beings are for the most part, insanely super villain, level brilliant in comparison to other living things. And that means that they took salvaged metal and they made weapons. They made ornaments made jewelry. But as we as we get to. The end of today's show, we know that the the they in today's episode is the sentinel ease people and the stuff they don't want you to know is anything about how they live or what their lives are like, or what they think about you specifically you specifically Matt Paul Nolan is well, they want to be left alone and is that so bad? What should happen to the residents of the island we're asking you? Should they be left alone as is apparently their desire, or is it too late already? Will they need assistance as local wildlife dies out as OC onic biodiversity decreases. You know, when like it's all well and good to say that we should leave this community alone, but some people would argue will what if environmental. Catastrophes make their way of life. Unsustainable. Does the human species have a responsibility to help the people on the silent too. I think they're too I. I see the sides in both of these arguments. Personally, I'm more on the leave him alone side. Yeah, I every everything I've ever witnessed about this. This sort of situation tells me that it's it's okay to not want to participate. You shouldn't force people to do stuff. I think you're right there. I, there is a point to be made about perhaps they are just protecting their own in their territory rather than really not wanting to be contacted, you know? Yeah. The Indian government has never prosecuted them for any of these murders by the way, and they are murders or you could call them cultural self defense. But when we asked this question, we also have to ask. I don't wanna tilt the scales too much, but we also have to ask ourselves what happened to the other indigenous peoples of these island groups when outsiders contacted them will we have one example that's not the same in really many respects, but we can see the effects that civilization has had on them. They're called the Jarrah..

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04:58 min | 3 years ago

"sentinel island" Discussed on Stuff They Don't Want You To Know Audio

"So meanwhile, for the rest of civilization, that was not part of the community on north sentinel island. A bunch of stuff was happening in what I mean, amazing inventions new depths of human depravity wars piece, beautiful moments. Some of the most amazing people in history are born and forgotten and the people on this island have not only no real idea about it, but they just don't want to be forced to participate in this whole human experiment. In nearby India in nineteen forty seven. The country finally gains independence from British rule. And with this it gained control of the animals and the Nicobar islands, including north sentinel island. So things are pretty hectic when you become a newly independent country for and they didn't really get to the concept of north sentinel island or the mysterious people living on it for about twenty years. And in one thousand nine hundred sixty seven. An Indian anthropologist named a trio Naf pundit was summoned by the governor of the Lanman islands. For a major expedition to north sentinel island pundit was offered the opportunity to become the first anthropologist to land there accompanied by armed police, naval officers to large patrol boats and inflatable. Rubber dinghies to get around the reef without breaking up ship. Yeah, and getting trapped not so good against EROs, though. Not so great. Yeah, not so great against EROs. Later in life pundits when he's talking about why he agreed to do this, he says there was a feeling that we were trying to establish friendly contact, which would be considered an achievement at the government level. So on the first expedition, the sentinel ease retreat into the jungle and they disappear because they know this better than any non native everwood. Yeah, there's no contact. So the party leaves gifts of buckets cloth and candy in the empty huts of the village. But they also. They also steal some stuff. Yeah, they did. They called it collecting, but they stole some stuff and they left blankets and things that could have been tainted as we found with the American native populations. Something as simple as a blanket can hold. A lot of pathogens can be a vector for disease. And so what, what kind of stuff did they take? No, they took beaus EROs. There was a basket and even the painted skull of a wild boar and they're like, this is ours. Enjoy the things the the candy. Yeah. And then they return another trip on the twenty ninth of March nineteen seventy pundit and his party find themselves trapped on the reflects between north sentinel island and constant is lit. Constance is l- it was just a little bit away from the actual island itself and that when we talked about how the island grew a little bit larger after the two thousand four earthquake and snobby the same way that the grinches heart rule bit larger at the end of the film spoilers a now, the Islam is attached to the island, but beforehand you could get caught in between there just to give the geography. So they were certain that they were going to be attacked this is it thought Pandit and company so penned eat or Pandit. Want to be clear that we are not native speakers mispronouncing this name. They were certain that this was going to spell the end in that they were going to die in the pursuit of this great anthropological experiment, but something unexpected occurred. So. At first, they see that the. They see that two of the natives who were just sort of observing them have realized that their stock and more people come out of the cover, more men, more warriors threatening to shoot at them, you know, brandishing their arrows and so they try to appease them by giving them fish that they had caught, but that didn't work more more dudes. We're coming at them getting closer and closer to shoot. And when they got fish, some of them started to calm down, but other people weren't having it..

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02:01 min | 3 years ago

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"So they just leave more gifts on the shore and they depart and then over the span of eighty five, three eighteen eighty seven. He visits a few more times and in his way can a very smug condescending way. Matt. He grows fond of the natives, and we have a quote when he was explaining how his his chilly heart had warmed to them. In many ways. They closely resemble the average lower class English country schoolboy as you see, I've only ever seen them running away except for those full children in the two parents that cued with my diseases. So the beginning of that quotas. Absolutely true. Yes. The whole thing really captures the spirit of where it was coming from, maybe a little more self aware than he was at the time, but then you, there's a relative period of calm because why would you go so far out of your way to visit this place? Yeah, there's there doesn't seem to be any interaction that happens at least if you've read the stories or reports of the previous interactions or lack of. So, yeah, no reason. However, in eighteen ninety six, three escaped Indian convicts fled. That port Blair that we mentioned before they got on a makeshift raft and they drifted about thirty miles to north sentinel island. Here's the deal. Two of the fugitives drowned in the reefs that are surrounding the island. Again that we've mentioned before, the one guy, the one survivor made it to the beach only to be killed. By the natives by by the natives, uh, defensively, nobody probably saw this. I'm assuming, but, but that's what appear to have happened. British party later, spotted and retrieved his body, and they noticed that it was pierced with with arrows and his throat was cut. Yep. And after this north central island was left alone for another almost hundred years..

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Stuff They Don't Want You To Know Audio

05:25 min | 3 years ago

"sentinel island" Discussed on Stuff They Don't Want You To Know Audio

"The leader here that the islanders had a reputation for cannibalism and Humphry said, Yep, I'm not going there. He'd never actually landed. Yeah, which was surprisingly as smart of him, right to listen to the experts in the area. He did have a police escort with him. So it is fascinating that he didn't, but I guess. Maybe just wasn't. He wasn't confident enough in the people there with him. Sure. I don't know. We'll also notice that at this point despite this reputation, I'm sure it's largely exaggerated for cannibalism. Yeah, the sentinel ease are hiding their avoiding innovating, right? They're not confronting. And then also there's a note here. They're described as long haired by um, fray. But when you see footage of the sentinels people today, there are no long haired people. There is just a little bit of footage in your right. So interesting because it seems as though things are changing in that same year again, eighteen sixty seven. An Indian merchant ship called the Niniveh was wrecked on the reef surrounding the shore, and their captain was a real piece of work now. So Eighty-six passengers survived twenty. Crew members survived. They make it. They crash on that reefs surrounding the island. These are also very treacherous waters and boom celebration time they survive these what one hundred, six people survive on the third day, the native population which had been completely in hiding attacks. The captain his strategy is to take the ship's lifeboat and run away to get picked up by some other ship that's coming by passing Brig. And then a Royal Navy ship came to rescue the remaining survivors who had held the natives off by for several days by throwing stones and brandishing sticks. And again, this is a story that gets around. So nobody else goes to that island for another thirteen years. Yes, in January of eighteen eighty on armed British expedition, manages a successful landing on north sentinel island. There led by the officer in charge of the enemies. By this time twenty year old fellow by the name of MAURICE. Vidal Portman, they went through the island in search of local people, and they had, again, some of people from the greater and as population guiding them. So what did they find? Well, the first thing they came upon where a network of pathways where people had been traveling by foot. There were several freshly abandoned villages that they that they saw again with with nobody around. They kept serving the island. They found it had fertile soil. There were grows of tropical hardwoods. And this this gentleman Portman didn't see a single human being other than the people that he brought to the island. So was it a ghost island maybe? But I don't think so. Eventually after several days of searching the party discovered just six sentinel lease. It was an elderly couple and they had four children with them. And you know, as as they tended to do, I guess in the colonial path, they abducted these six people and they took them with them, right? Yeah. They took them the parents and the children. The father was by far the oldest on the six. They took them back onto the vessel with them. But as soon as they were leaving the island, probably because they were exposed to new diseases, the family fell ill, rapidly ill. The parents died. And so in. A strange move Portman and co sent the four surviving children back home with presents. The likes of which the sentinel is community probably never seen before, and he talked about them in a really smug condescending way. He said, you know, he didn't feel particularly bad about it. He was annoyed by what he considered to be their mannerisms and idiot expressions that that's his choice of wording there. And they did send four unaccompanied children back to an island that to their observation was uninhabited. Oh yeah, I didn't even think about that part. Just go Lord of the flies kids. We'll see you later Lau here's a, here's a dull would be your presence and Portman did go on to visit the island several more times in August of eighteen eighty three. They in August of eighteen eighty three. A volcanic explosion was mistaken for the sounds of gun shy. Shots and possibly a distress signal. So several search parties go out Portman, 's search vessel lands on north sentinel island, the native people hide. He doesn't see anyone. Most importantly doesn't see a ship in distress..

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05:38 min | 3 years ago

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"But here's the scary thing nowadays. They're one of the least fertile and most sterile communities on the planet about forty percent of married couples or sterile own gay women rarely become pregnant before the age of twenty eight infant and child mortality is in the range of forty percent. Now we could explain. We, we could explain infant and child mortality due to quality of life right for the family for the mother for the kid. So on. But the idea that an entire population without, you know, some clear environmental cause just starts to dwindle that way. Yeah, I don't like that at all. It's frightening. It's it's not. It's not something that I can explain. I would welcome anybody to write to us and let us know. You know, is there some EPA genetic factor at play? Did the community decide not to have children or is there some kind of outside force acting on them? Some in some way, Ryan local exposure of some sort that they're unaware of like four sterilization, which many governments have done, which would. Yeah, which would be explicable at least that's a mundane. 'cause that's less scary than some sort of switch turning. You know what I mean? Yeah. So. Also the own Gabe have been victims of sexual exploitation and alcoholism forced labour, all the all the terrible expected things that happen often to these tribes. So there may be a lesson for us to learn with the sentinel ease through the perspective of the own game. Observers have compared the sentinel, ease community to communities that existed in the stone age make weapons. They make tools the pretty bad ass with bows and arrows. Yeah, was like three hundred something feet they can issue with an arrow. Yeah. Yeah. Three hundred and four hundred. I think they do not appear to make fire at least again from what we can observe and their language is unclassified, meaning it's unintelligible even to tribal communities from. Close by islands like they brought an on gay person there to attempt to speak with them, but they either couldn't get close enough to understand the shouting because of all the arrows or the simply have been. The sentinel simply have been isolated for so long again for thousands of years, and their language has become its own unintelligible thing. Yeah, that's that. That is incredible because that certainly doesn't happen. That's one of the least regularly occurring things to have an a language that is so isolated. That's incredible. Now, prior to. To the European encroachment. Well, let's we're going to call it there. There were ancient traditions by the tribes people who live around north sentinel island that the people on or sentinel island were cannibals. The own gay. They apparently were aware of north sentinel islands for some time, but the first European report didn't actually occur until seventeen seventy one, which isn't that long ago just before the United States became a thing. That's true. I didn't think of it in that perspective. Yeah. This British surveyor named John Ritchie past the island on a ship called the diligent. The diligent was a hydrographic survey vessel owned by the East. India company Polokwane get a spooky sound effect. When we say East India company, just booze, just put some booze in there. Perfect. That's appropriate yet. So Ritchie made one note where he essentially said he saw a multitude of lights. We don't know if this means fires. Yeah, I, but he saw it from a distance. He made a short note about it. The boat continued on and no one in the west would make any sort of references island for another hundred years. The this is the one guy was like, oh, look at that. That's a, that's not water. Definitely an island. So we fast forward to March. Eighteen sixty seven, and that's when Jeremiah Humphry. He's the officer in charge of the enemies. He journeyed to north central island on the trail of some convicts who escaped from this penal colony that was there called port Blair and okay. So he he's approaching the island, he's escorted by police and would they're called great enemies. And these are tribes people from again, kind of like what we were discussing before, a different tribe. But I guess similar enough to where perhaps there could be communication. He saw some ten men on the beach naked longhaired with bows and arrows, shooting fish. And apparently the sentinel is spot of the boat and they hid and the great enemies on board were visibly frightened and warned Humphrey..

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05:04 min | 3 years ago

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"Here's where it gets crazy. The answer to your question met they pose before the break is full. We don't really know the residents of north sentinel island. The sentinel ease are one of the most mysterious populations on the planet, and there aren't many of them estimates range from his few as fifty people to maybe as many as four hundred. The last census that the Indian government conducted that touched upon that area only found fifteen people. I think three women and twelve men, but yeah, that that's something we're going to see here as we get into the story. The people that you find when you're searching for people on north sentinel island generally aren't the all of the people that are on the right because you see when they conducted that most recent senses, the way they conducted it was by taking. Vote by getting special permission to go inside the include the exclusion zone, and then trying to get close enough to see if there was anyone on the shore and then immediately high tailing it out post-haste. And there's a reason for that. They are violently opposed to outside contact of any kind. This behavior has been universally consistent for thousands of years. They resided on this island, this population living in much the same manner as their ancestors from Malinia and from what we can guess the sentinel ease people practice traditional hunting and gathering with no. I think it's a leap to say no knowledge of agriculture, but no practice of it. Yeah, there there's no evidence of agriculture that's been seen in the few times that people have actually gotten close enough to check it out. Their diet consists of mostly fruits plant stuff that's found on the island coconuts forest plants. Sometimes they'll they vigneault deep sea turtles fish, some small birds and wild Honey. In some researchers, compare the sentinel is to the own gay tribe, which is another tribe that's on the enemies islands, their indigenous peoples to one of the other islands. And we should just say here that the sentinel used that name is a name given to them. If we're ever to speak with one in could speak with someone of, you know, the north sentinel island they would not call themselves at right, exactly. This this culture has several barriers to communication. Yes, and we'll get to these, but they the own gay. Are an excellent example of the one of the closest analogues that we have sure to this population. At least we being the part of the species that doesn't live on this island. Yes, we were forced to guess. So like the sentinel lease the own gay were one hundred gathers living out an ancient tradition, ancient set of subsistence practices. Write that date back by the way to some of the earliest human civilization practices that we know of today. So these are do these people are doing some of the first things that people did still? Well, the sentinel ease we suspect, yes, not the owned. Yes, because unlike the sentinel lease the own gay were somewhat assimilated to their detriment in one thousand nine hundred one. The population was registered at. At six hundred and seventy two after colonisation. There were fewer than one hundred left. Ultimately, like the number kept going down in the fifties. It was only one hundred and fifty or so. And this was due to the brutal acts of the colonizers also unanticipated factors like exposure to non native diseases, which is one of the biggest problems when making contact, right, right, right. It's one of the problems with when Europeans came to the north and South American continents. The same things occurred for them. It wasn't a problem. It was a right the same for the native populations. Yes, it was. It was a horrific thing, and there's something else here that. On a personal level mystifies and disturbs me and it does. It disturbs me because I, I can't explain why it's happening, and I don't understand. And I don't think that there's any technology that people would have had to do this on purpose. There's something deeper plate. Well, anyway, I'm too much preface here. Here's what's happening today. The gear is still around, but a major cause of the decline in the population is both the changes in food habits brought about by contact with the outside world..

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03:05 min | 3 years ago

"sentinel island" Discussed on Stuff They Don't Want You To Know Audio

"You check it out. If you are interested in exploration and remote locations, it's a great book, but enough of that, the island's just on their own. There are what nearly six hundred and only nine are open to foreign tourists. Yeah, very, very rural locations in in addition to being very remote, but they are open to tourism those nine. Those that those come into play in the rest of our story yet they're very much open to tourism, locals be damned yacht Isley and you might say, well, who owns this guys? I, I'm, I'm pretty good at pointing to countries on the map, and I've never heard of a country called the Lanman and Nicobar islands. No worries. Trick. Question. There is no country. It is a territory of India and it is controlled by India. Generally speaking, composed these two islands and think about it in terms of latitude. So any of the islands located north of ten degrees latitude are known as an Nyland's while islands located south of that latitude are called Nicobar islands. That's easy enough. Let's pretty easy nominally these territories and the island we're talking about today nor sentinel and belong in the south and administrative district, which is again, part of this Indian territory, the nearby south sentinel island is uninhabited. It occasionally receives visitors, mostly adventurous. Divers who like the Alberto that go somewhere where no one has like our Ben. I sure they'd sell like, I'm surely sound exactly like, well, people who people who wanna venture. Yes, no one lives there. And here's the thing, although the government of India legally possesses both north and south sentinel island. And again, all of the end, all of the Nicobar islands. They do not have any installations. No government, no scheduled route of transportation to visit the area. People can visit south sentinel island and often probably sneak there. Yeah. Just the dive for a day or something like going without a lifeguard basically. Right? But all the ships in the nearby area and all the planes are banned from approaching. North sentinel island through the use of a three mile exclusion zone because you see, unlike south sentinel island, north sentinel island is inhabited, but by who you might ask, well, we'll tell you right after a quick word from our sponsor friends, listeners countrymen. It's Andy and Naomi, and we're the host of couples therapy. A new podcast on how stuff works and on our show..

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"sentinel island" Discussed on Stuff They Don't Want You To Know Audio

Stuff They Don't Want You To Know Audio

05:17 min | 3 years ago

"sentinel island" Discussed on Stuff They Don't Want You To Know Audio

"That's a very important point in the modern age, it seems like these events and encounters whether they were truthful, whether there were fiction or whether they were a blend of the two, usually make someone from the west, feel more important about themselves or less like they were calling is IRS or less like they were colonizers. That's true. Regardless nowadays, it seems like most of these events or encounters are going to be relegated to history books. In short, everyone has met everyone or is aware of everyone, right? We all get it. Everyone is at least aware enough that there's an outside world Liga tribe most most tribes of isolated people are aware that there's an outside world with some technology in it. Right. And it is sadly true that there are many. Countries that people in other countries are very much aware of, you know? Yes. Like you've seen, especially. European media gives people in the US of a real devil of time with this, and you can see numerous U2. compilations of Americans being asked to point to a country on the map on the world map and getting it cartoonish Lee wrong. That's a little bit of a stereotype. I promise people are. I promise the editors cherry picking that for all our non-american listeners. We certainly hope so we certainly hope so. And regardless of how hilarious videos might be not your point I would say is absolutely correct. We are aware of the other. We are aware that it exists. There will be a, you know, the majority of people live in China will probably never travel to the states in the majority of people who live in the states will probably never travel to China, but both are aware that the other country exists and is a real thing. Thank you, television and internet. Thank you television into. And books? Yes. In a world though where everything is rapidly urbanizing right? I think it was what while you and I were first working together, the shift occurred in the majority of human beings began to live in cities. Yes, we've been working together for a long time and it sounds like around twenty fourteen that's when we we went past the fifty percent Mark. Yeah, by twenty fourteen fifty, four percent of the world's population lived in an urban area while and that shift is pretty crazy, right? Pretty recent to, yeah, it's it's definitely a condensing of humanity into these places that for better or for worse, do really well for various economies and for populations, but not so great. In a lot of other ways. A, you know, pollution crime. Right, right. Exactly. And in this in this world where there are increasingly fewer isolated populations and a larger number of densely, let's say, densely combined populations. We can understand why people would think there there are no more uncontactable tribes. There are many people say that's a myth. Because so many anthropologists of the past days of your wanted to be the first outsider to encounter some group that probably that has happened, right? Yeah. But a horde definition of an uncontactable tribe as in someone who's some group that has never seen, nor is they say in Tennessee, heard, tell of any other group. The odds of that still existing are are preposterously low, right? Yeah. And I think a lot of that has to do with something as simple as Google maps where you can, you can open it up and you can see every island because we have the satellite imagery. We know that that island exists there who wherever it is is is located as it is that island exists here in this program? So obviously somebody's been there, right? That's the assumption at least or right. You could go there. So why? Why wouldn't have someone gone there already? Right. And then there's that related point. Maybe there aren't any UN contacted tribes, but maybe the human experiment has grown so large that there aren't even any really isolated tribes anymore. Yeah, that's the assumption that's a safe assumption. But the problem is that could not be further from the truth. Today's episode concerns, a particular community that you may not have heard of on a tiny island off the coast of India, one that has lost to time. Again, it's called north sentinel island. It's relatively tiny. It's just seventy two square kilometers. That's twenty eight square miles in its well. That's before the two thousand four earthquake because the the landmass changed slightly there expanded and it's a part of the and Amon archipelago..

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"sentinel island" Discussed on Stuff They Don't Want You To Know Audio

Stuff They Don't Want You To Know Audio

04:57 min | 3 years ago

"sentinel island" Discussed on Stuff They Don't Want You To Know Audio

"Hello, welcome back to the show. My name is Matt. Knoll is off on an adventure that we can't disclose yet, but soon they called me Ben. We are joined with our super producer Paul deck and Paul Wilson decade maybe is that appropriate for this episode? I get the you mean you're talking about the soccer ball? Yes. Most importantly, you are you and you are here in that makes this stuff. They don't want you to know today. We are diving into something that Matt you and I explore during our video series. Yes. And it's, I think our fifth most popular video that we ever made really. Yes, almost a million dollar views at this point. All he smokes still not gonna beat that the one about Satan. Yeah, Satan will always be at the top and I'm kind of I feel very fortunate for both of us that not that many people watched the. Instructions on how to get away with murder? Yes, I've less than fifty thousand. I want to say great, but that's still a lot of people. There's a lot of people we do. We do tell people not to commit murder, right? We do at some point in that one, we can take it down. Do you only take it down? I know you know, I I feel like we did a good job the thing. Okay. I a moral notions aside. It does feel like we did a good job. But yes, we did a video on north sentinel island several years ago, more years than I think a well. You probably know, Matt, when do we do that when I believe it was twenty thirteen, but it's been a minute since I looked at it. It's been a while. Sue Lor sentinel island has a mystery to it. And if you have seen our earlier video, you might have an inkling about what we're going to dive. Into today, but to get to this mystery we have to, I explore human beings. Oh, that sounds good. Yeah, that's great. Human beings are species that loves to talk about itself they and that's us, and that's. That's you. It's you too. And yes, specifically you so human beings, our species exist to some degree on every continent, which is insane. When you think about it, our tremendous ability to adapt to inhospitable environments is spread us across the planet and the modern age technological breakthroughs allow us to communicate instantaneously regardless of our physical location. I mean, just just think of all the podcasts that have a like you and I prefer to hang out in person in the room, but there are many very successful. Very fascinating podcast with hosts that rarely see each other in person much. Like stuff you missed in history class? Yeah, that's. That's actually I'm surprised didn't think about that. Yeah. One of our host is based in Atlanta on that show and the other in Boston and they can communicate pretty much instantaneous. Sounds like they're having conversation in the room and one more thing I just want to add here. We're talking about the humans us living on all these continents. We also live on islands that aren't considered a continent all over the planet. That's true. That's true. And even in those spaces, people can communicate thanks to technology. Modernity. It seems is contagious, but here's the fascinating and somewhat disturbing thing. As we've spread farther and farther some groups of humans also became isolated those geographical boundaries bedeviled us impassable mountains, shifty nice, dense dangerous jungles rising seas and treacherous. Currents your point about islands. Right all later rolling. Keeping some groups of human beings hidden from the progress and the curses of global society. And you know, we've all like you've heard these stories, right? We even without thinking of a specific when we've all heard the stories wherein some intrepid explorer encounters at tribe of people who had no knowledge of the outside world. Right. I, I remember thinking that these were relatively fictionalized things growing up. Yeah, like fair, not. I don't wanna say fairy tales, but fictional adventure stories. Yes, they're, they're depicted in film and in books all over the place, various fictional ones and non fictional encounters of this sort in the, I think that line gets blurred a little bit in our in our popular culture of what would a real encounter looks like in what a. Plate up one looks like for the screen. Right?.

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"sentinel island" Discussed on The Ross Bolen Podcast

The Ross Bolen Podcast

02:38 min | 3 years ago

"sentinel island" Discussed on The Ross Bolen Podcast

"Great song i'm not going to spend a whole lot of time talking about it mentions himse fat big moe big hawk dj screw big mello wicked cricket really just no majd to houston houston rap as a whole very cool great beat fantastic cook as zero songs possess and that's rap song of the week right so i fixed it everybody can show out stop screaming at me on social media i made a mistake i'm human it is what it is next segment stuff the wikipedia when your high this one is north sentinel island something that until about four hours ago i did not know existed i've never heard of this nor sitting aligned is an island it's approximately the size of manhattan it is circled by spectacular clear sapphire water a securing of submerged coral reefs that kind of protect the island and it's completely covered by thick mangrove jungle that ends right there at the white powdery white beaches north sentinel island is home to the sentinel ease who often violently reject absolutely any and all contact with the outside world in the sentinel lease are among the last people worldwide to remain virtually untouched by modern civilization and as a result obviously only pretty limited information about the island is known this is why you've never heard of north sentinel island because it's a fucking time capsule it's located in the bay of bengal which is in the northeastern part of the indian ocean it's bounded on the west and north by indianbangladesh and on the east by mayan more and the end man and nicobar islands the sentinel lease who live on this island have kept their spot free of intruders for about sixty thousand years with bows arrows and spears shit so this is the sentinel easer considered a tribe on putting that up in quotes because it's not really like i don't know if that's a fair classification they're just the people who live on this island and they don't want shit to do with anyone else except them and their folks you know what i'm saying like and they're not playing they are not fucking around at all i'll tell you a story that confirms that in a second in one article about north sitting aligned that was on the guardian reads like this describing the sentinel ease tribe of india's remote and man islands in his travel journals the notoriously trite thirty.

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