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Black "Bernie Bros" Speak Out

Hear the Bern

36:49 min | 1 year ago

Black "Bernie Bros" Speak Out

"Beyond say has the bay hive Justin Bieber has believers the Grateful Dead has Deadheads and van Morrison has Veneta IX Star Trek has Trekkies or trekkers. If you really want to be controversial and amazingly Frank Sinatra fans are called bobby-socksers popular, cultural phantoms are often named and politicians are exempt. Andrew Yang has the Yang gang. Mike rebel has the gravel gang and Hillary Clinton had pantsuit nation. And then there's the Bernie, bro. This is here. The burn a podcast about the people ideas and politics that are driving the brings Anders twenty twenty campaign and the movement to secure a dignified life for everyone living in this country. My name is Briana joy gray coming to you from Bernie's campaign headquarters in Washington DC this week we talked to campaign surrogate Shaun king campaign co chair Senator Nina Turner and lefty podcast or Leslie the third to debunk. The Bernie Bowman and also to talk about why the progressive movement and the movement for racial Justice are inextricable. We also hear from voters in Detroit. We're Bernie Sanders recently held intimate forms to hear voters concerns directly from the source. The thing is the bay hive believers in Trekkies ultras their names, they chose them. To celebrate the artist political agendas, and yes, the greatest TV franchise of all time. Zone. But Bernie pro well, it wasn't exactly intended as a complement the rose who love Bernie Sanders have become a sexist mob young white and predominantly male. You may have heard the term Bernie bro this election season. Typically, young white and male heard about this phenomenon. Bernie broS of what we saw with the Bernie rose had a real chilling affect Bernie. Bernie Bernie brow, Bernie, Bernie Brody. Of course, the stats are clear. The Bernie, bro is and always has been a myth even back in two thousand sixteen every demographic group under the age of thirty preferred Bernie and Bernie currently has higher favorables among black and Latino voters than any declared candidate. I don't know who started the narrative that every burns down supporter was this white, man. But I do know for a fact that all these reporters who kept writing the stuff we're doing uncritically, they were just repeating what they heard through the grapevine that was Leslie leave the third a co host of the leftist, pop culture podcast struggle session. He also coined the viral on Twitter hashtag that made the arranger of non white Bernie supporters visible hashtag Bernie made me, wait. They didn't have polls on their side. You have any facts underside. They were just repeating that. Because that was common knowledge at that point. And that's how you wrote about earning Sanders. In fact, the core of the birdie coalition isn't privileged white males. If anything to find his supporters, it's class Bernie consistently over performance with lower income voters, and at least to me, there's no surprise why his platform is geared toward meeting. The needs of the most marginalized Americans to creating a world all of us can live happy and dignified lives unsurprisingly millionaires. And billionaires generally aren't Bernie browse I spoke to Shaun king. An activist writer Bernie twenty twenty surrogate and a former colleague of mine at the intercept about the Bernie breath, who's even frustrated from meeting here, you even mentioned it because it it's an eraser of you of me of thousands and thousands of us of maybe of millions of people who support a deeply progressive agenda who support burning. I was blown away by this poll just came out yesterday showing that of all the candidates Bernie was the only candidate who had a majority of his supporters where people of color. No other candidate not Joe Biden, not commonly Harrison any other candidate. But that's not the story that gets told. So we have this lived reality in our movement beyond burning. But even within the campaign, it's beautiful. It's colorful, it's uniquely diverse. But then somehow the talking heads don't tell that story. I for one don't find a stat showing Bernie as popular among black and Brown. People to be surprising when I talked to my working class black family members there pieties our healthcare paying their bills how to afford an education and the toxic influence of our punitive criminal Justice system. So why wouldn't Bernie's message resonate a need? Someone who's going to get my mother and my auntie. My cousins health care, and he'd someone who's going to help us out. That was Leslie again, Leslie created the viral breeding any white hashtag to make fun of the media's whitewashing of Bernie supporters way back during the two thousand sixteen primary. I made a joke debt, you know, before the Hawaii and Alaska primary happened that, you know, watch senators is going to win Hawaiian Alaska to of deletes white stays in union, and they're still going to make an article say that all of his supporters are white and sure enough CNN put out an article about these two primaries and his two primary victories, which called both of these states mostly rural and mostly white. So then I made a hashtag basically saying, oh, I guess now we are finally all white. I'm just going to accept them lane into it so ever since I vote for Bernie, I've been watching friends hashtag Bernie made me white the hashtag became the top trending topic in the United States precisely because. There were so many diverse Bernie supporters out there who felt ignored the hashtag for any male. And Bernie may young also sprung up started by women older voters who were over being ignored. Now that Bernie made me white tweeted a Sikh American can I please get on an airplane without being harassed by security. Another woman tweeted, thank you, Bernie for what would have been my fifty first birthday this week. Instead, I'm twenty five ish this one really resonated. With me hashtag Bernie may be young. I went to bed old and woke up this morning, a millennial with huge debt, but jokes aside, a racing diverse coalition of voters really isn't funny. Too, many progressives of all backgrounds this movement symbolized by Sander's. But comprised of all of us represents a unique commitment to structural change. But can help liberate us from structural problems problems like student debt, a lack of healthcare. Access and low wages. It's not just that his policies. Look good on paper Burgess longtime commitment to those policies makes us confident that he'll continue to fight for us. Once he's ause. I would just say, you know, Bernie Sanders, he is authentic. He's been saying the same thing for years for decades. He's not scrambling to come up with a plan for how to justify his votes Disnadda other or his career for all black people. He put in jail for his entire life. And then wants to be president. He's not doing any of that. He's saying the same thing. He's always been saying, you know, universal health care helping poor helping out mothers helping out, you know, taking the power away from the millionaires and the billionaires as we have to say eight including himself and giving it back to the people and actually making a government that works for the people. Crystal Simmons, a black Representative from South Carolina who recently endorsed Bernie Sanders echoed those sentiments he was racking with us when nobody else was in. With us. I mean, minority middle class communities before we even knew who Bernie Sanders was he was you know, he wasn't a household name that is definitely appealing to me. I don't like people who do things just for showboating. And so for me, the fact that he was there from the beginning shows that he was there when it wasn't a press thing, you know, he wasn't there. When people knew who he was and he was trying to gain a platform. He was there when he was a nobody I kept hearing that same theme that Bernie's consistency is proof of his commitment to the people echoed by everyone. I spoke to this is Sean again, they're me reasons why supported Bernie, there's one central reason. I wanna know this goes with my support for all political leaders the thing that you tell me you support. Now, do you have a demonstrated history of caring and fighting for that thing before you started running for president what I see with? Bernie when it comes to the tin things. He cares about most. If you go to Bernie Sanders dot com and look at his platform. Those are the things that he was fighting for last month last year ten years ago twenty years ago. These are the things he fights for as a hobby. You know, like in his free time he goes in marches in works with workers who are being underpaid and confronts Disney and confronts Amazon to their face and does this out of campaign season. This pays its workers wages that are solo that many of them are forced to live in motels. Because they can't afford a decent place to live. Meanwhile, Disney made a record breaking profit of nearly three billion dollars last quarter. I tell people if you go to all of the websites of all of the people running for president they're beautiful like the platforms in policies are amazing. I just wanna know have you been fighting for that before you create a debt website for most of them for most of them on most of the issues that they now fight for including universal health care, including something like bail reform. That's not the case and so- Bernie's campaign is an extension of his life. The campaign staff is also an extension of those values. Seventy percent of Sanders. National leadership team is made up of women, including Rene Spelman, Bernie's deputy campaign manager, a black woman and a Lilia Mahia the campaigns political director and after Latina in me national press secretary. And of course, there's the inimitable Nina Turner. Country. Medicare? The. Make sure working in this country. We will. Nina Turner, a former state Senator from Ohio is one of four national co chairs for the Bernie twenty twenty campaign. She was also a surrogate for the campaign back in twenty sixteen Senator Turner has been integral to this campaign's efforts. And she certainly can't be dismissed as just some bro erasure of Bernie's black support nothing burns me up more than what that means. For Nina Turner, who literally has probably at this time spent seven or eight hundred days of campaigning with Bernie all over the country. She has led his organization she opens up for him everywhere and his deeply devoted like Bernie, surround himself with honest black voices who speak the truth to him. I was able to grab a Turner on her way out the door to join Bernie on the campaign trail. I wanted to ask her what she thought if the Bernie, bro narrative. Thank you rejoin is amazing to be here. And guess you did grab me I have suitcase in hand lever from the office about to go to the airport in a little while to go into South Carolina, Senator Turner is an extraordinarily compelling communicator. I've been thinking a lot about why she so effective. And I think it's because she speaks with a sense of urgency that can't be faked a sense of urgency. That comes from lived experiences that are difficult in real and relatable to millions of Americans. But never dreamed. I would have these type of opportunities. You know, we're getting close to may. And I get a little heart broken in may because my mother died at age forty two years old. So may is hard for me with mother's day. And her birthday, I come to this with a with a heavy, but a hopeful heart that those of us who have opportunity to beat a change can make a difference. And it really is my life experience that gives me the some people say chutzpa of the people would say kick ass. Rhythm that I have two things, and I'm certainly at a stage in my life where it is. So vitally important that those of us who have the opportunity to stand up into speak up. No matter what the consequences may be that we should do that. And that's how I roll most of the time. We all have stories rejoined that brings me to this moment. And you know, my mother died really young links and hues asking one of his seminal poems. What happens to a dream furred? And to me that is her story. She grew up in a solidly middle class. Household my grandparents worked their behinds off, you know, were just tremendous people. But for my mom, you know, everything doesn't always go right for people. You got the best environment. Or what seems to be the best environment and things. This don't go. Right. So struggles and strife and ups and downs happen to us all whether you're in a single parent household or whether you're in a two parent household or whether you're fortunate of the have untiring community, raise you people go through stuff. My mother went through a lot of stuff. Senator Turner is committed to the Bernie campaign in part. Because she understands the value of the social safety net firsthand. Yes, I am a safety net child safety net adult for a little bit of my life. You know, the likelihood that you're born into a working class or poor family increases, the likelihood that you will be one yourself and that you even die poor. And I've been fortunate in my life to kind of turn the tide in the first generation college graduate, but what was most important to me. Breathe joy was when my son walked across the stage, and we had a second generation because that's really what this is about. So when the Senator talks about college for all that speaks to me because how I got over my soul. Looks back on wonders how I got over education opened the gateway for me. And if it were not for that. I don't know where I would be my mother never lived to see me graduation ever lived to see me sworn into offices as councilwoman as a state Senator to run for statewide office in twenty fourteen fighting against voter suppression at the hands of Republicans to be a national Sergi for for person running for. The president of the United States of America. The Bernie Sanders Senator Bernie Sanders and now to be a national co chair. My mother never saw any of that. It is those experiences that inform me and lots of people have stories just like that that they can tell that connects them to why they want to do. What is right? What is just and what is good and his health care for all my mother had Medicaid, my family grew up with Medicaid, my father worked hard. But he he didn't have those study jobs had good healthcare benefit, so we can provide health care benefits. So I know what it's like to have crushing poverty, and you try your damned is to get out. And sometimes you can't get out. So yeah, the system rate since she was on her way to South Carolina. I asked Senator Turner what she thinks of Bernie's chances there this time, and what is doing differently in order to get a different result. Well, haven't time to get to know people is vitally important. But the senators message has not changed. So it's having the. Opportunity to have him introduced in a deeper way. This mayor give that has been created that somehow he had a harder time than anybody else would have up against a very formidable candidate is just not true. Whoever would have been that candidate would have had that challenge. However, the senators message does resonate brutal. I've been with them you've been with him. I see people from all walks of life, including the African American community walk up to him. There's a Bernie citing you know, and people from all walks. They can be young. They can be season. You donate a born immigrant. It doesn't matter. I've seen the broS walk up to Senator Sanders. We love you. You are what we need. I never forget. We were in Baltimore. And we were with Reverend pastor Jamal Bryant, and we did the walk through walking through the neighborhood were Freddie, gray was gunned down. And it was almost as if piper was walking through. You got several ministers. You've got. Pastor Jamal Bryant. And in the neighborhood. Somebody must have just put out the call Senator Bernie Sanders is out and I'm serious the bras and the sisters how a her one brother. I'll never forget. He said I was supporting him because he not taking money from the big leagues. This is just an average brother in the community not embedded in the campaign. None of that just speaking that kinda true. The Senator has a universal message. And that message does speak today African American community since the African American community disproportionately suffers from all of the negative variables are factors healthcare. Criminal Justice system. Living in communities that are more prone to have environmental injustice being in cities where the school system is not up to par to guaranteed. Those children have an opportunity to live a good life. His message speaks the language. I want to ask you about this question of what do black voters want? Because we're we're just cried so monolithically. And as though there is no overlap between what the primary concerns of the average black polluter are and what the broader. I mean, we won't what everybody else wants. We will live a good life. You wanna live in safe communities? If you have children were no what they have good schools. Even if you don't have children, you probably want to make sure that the children around you or in this world have a good education. So that they increase the likelihood that they will be able to take advantages of opportunities. If you a woman you want to hold them dollar. You know, you want maternity leave and paternity leave. It goes hand in hand you want to make sure that your work is not in vain, and I do agree with the Mary at workers. You know, their slogan was one job should be enough. You want that you want to notice criminal Justice system, which impacts the African American community in deeper ways, but by extension poor people in general, I mean, that's not the only thing that we care about is criminal Justice. But because that. That ram of life has such a detrimental impact on our communities disproportionately. Yes, we care about the injustices of a criminal Justice system that has been perpetuated generation after generation after generation rejoin, we'd have to do another show, institutional racism and implicit by his, you know, in color ISM, and all the other things that, but we we want to be recognized as equals in this in this community people tied to begin about intersection -ality, but I think too often is of action -ality with doing kind of piecemeal ING off individual groups into their quadrants and pretending like there's not overlap there, which is the actual opposite of what supposed to be going on. That's right. There's a lot of overlap and commonality between these fears even though there are differences and Senator really does a good job. See he didn't fall for the bait. Right. There is intersection -ality we really are in this together. He really believes that we are in this together is really. Gut wrenching for me being in this political space right now is how people weaponize race and their weaponize and differences. Yes, there are despair. We hear the Senate talk about this all the time you and I helped work on this. There are disparities within the disparities. And you want leaders to recognize the disparities within the disparities, which he does. However, and we not only out other folks who are suffering to it is a both. And it's not an either or after sound area that is was salad. They're using. That's right, people want us to believe that we don't have those things in common. They can make us act likley react to those differences that alternately benefit the people at the top one percent would rather have survived conquer. Then since seeing are our shared interests in particular, and you know, intersection crucially important, but there's no intersection -ality without race without gender, but that sexual orientation or without class. All of these part of part of the puzzle. Coalition building a priority of this campaign as Bernie off and says at rallies, it's not me it does. So it's incredibly exciting that people from every state Puerto Rico and nineteen countries have all interior to hold over forty seven hundred kickoff event on April twenty-seventh during those events. The campaign will stream special thirty minute video featuring speakers like Nina Turner and campaign manager fast Shaquir, the goal of these events is to spread grassroots organizing by connecting volunteers to voters in creating environments in which folks can spread the movement's message and turn out the vote. I spoke to John price a young student living in Baltimore who was one of nearly a million volunteers who have committed to throw an organizing event for Bernie, April twenty-seventh to Johnson. It's personal it really hits close to home for maybe has my cover military family. My mom was also military hit. Join the until I was about. Twelve or thirteen. My sister was ten and after she joined the military with the first time in years that my family was able to do things like good dentists and be able to get regular checkups because my mom finally had tried hair. My sister was one of her checkups messages, doctor found a heart defect, and she had to have surgery to fix that. I really believe that she's alive today because of that healthcare literally saints lives in this country. We say that you have rights of life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. It's me that make sense that people don't connect the dots. You can't have a right to life without a right to health care. That's that's an amazing incredibly compelling story to tell people who might be interested in also throwing a house party. What's involved? What yours is gonna look like with the planning process been like a planning process on the Bernie Sanders campaign end, it's been very easy because I mean doll have been there every step of the way to be. Sure that you're checking that I got all the basically the information the resource of need. It was a simple as going online and finding out thing. You know, I here's my information school, I go to one of us to party. And then I got sent an Email with a list of things to be mindful of sfjazz. You wanna make sure you how the big screen? You wanna make sure that you have accessibility for people who may be differently abled? Another thing that they fade in the hosting chaining is like don't assume that people are not going to be interested in coming basically to invite everybody. Don't don't make judgments about Witter wouldn't be interested in anything. There's campaign. I asked her what she thought of the Bernie breath. I would say that. I am living proof that that is just the morality to stereotype, I am of black woman. And I am organizing this. And I really think that I mean if you look at Bernie's track record like, synthesis. Well rights movement, he has been pushing for civil rights, and we can't get caught up in you go under this label you go under that label because that isn't equalizer getting education has been a class barrier in Bernie is about a racing. Those hierarchies class barriers. You know, you can divide people up into who have a high school education who has college education who has higher education and those serve as basically the the Bishen that caused classism before we hung up Jon Allen wanted to get one. Last message across one more thing. I guess I I would like to say is that like this Mestre, I ran for didn't fit the student government association Senate there were fifteen people buying for eleven in its butts, and I put up posters all around the school for my campaign of. Killing students to vote for me. But my friends, and when the results came around I lost the election by one vote like the person who got the Lafrance win vote more than me. So that's just another thing to keep in mind that like every single vote counts, especially in the primaries. That's another thing that I'm really focused on during my house party is telling people like to get out there and vote and feel like they do matter like every single person matters is your interested in hosting event. Sign up at map dot Bernie Sanders dot com, that's M A P map if you're already hosting event. Don't forget to share it with our progressive community by using the hashtag organized with Bernie. Oh. What else so camera back around so sweet potatoes sensations, a Graham you about a week and a half ago Bernie was in Detroit talking to black voters and black owned restaurant called sweet potato sensations. Listen, savory food super supercenter waffles, celebrate show sales. What struck me is that while the need the black voters are often described monolithically the concerns of this community or anything. But. And. Scared to many people in America their number resources necessary. So and places like short, you have vacant housing sitting side by side with people have no place to live, and it makes no sense that we have both and the deployment to and the thinking housing was partially caused intentional public policy, which is tax opposes in the city in the state of Michigan, which nobody said, let's end this. Now, we have had things like emergency management in our cities in. It's the federal government is let this go on where over sixty percent of people in the safe flat. People state of Michigan has been governed by -mergency managers stripped us, democrat grants causing water crisis, Detroit, housing prices, and it just goes on. So I think what we're looking for in Detroit. At least when I'm looking for is national leadership assessment was you matter, and we will fight on behalf of people in the city of Detroit. And there's no way you're going to lose your home because you seven hundred thousand back taxes and at the same. Time that happens. We're going to give ration- billion dollars in tax breaks because they build something. They also make money off of and get richer and richer and richer. Look another woman was concerned about the lack of options available to her special needs son mini hung knows diagnose African Americans about autism in the criminal Justice system each heave because they never got a diagnosis or Damer diagnose wrong, and that's atrocity in my mind when meal mother thirteen year old who could possibly get stop on the street 'cause muscles in five five hundred twenty pounds. And he may or may not feel like Yuli when the cops come up to. And he won't get beat to a pulp I need to know that my son is going to get fair. Inequitable education is known have same Arlington veins that his white counterparts get in the suburbs. For stock in my article recon public. Could make sure that we have people in the schools who are well trained to take care of your son, and the many hundreds of thousands of kids who have that kind of the. And when we do that, we not only make like sudden your family. We gain creek good input jobs. Putting pundits talk about quote, unquote, black issues. They often limit our interests to criminal Justice issues. But listen to these women their concerns are so much more complex a women's special needs child doesn't get adequate support from either the school system or the health care system. Put them at great risk of being caught up in the criminal Justice system. But all too often says a black child who doesn't yield deserves to be shot never mind that a so called noncompliant might be because he's on the autism spectrum. And the first question wasn't just about a lack of affordable housing the voter identified structural institutional choices made by her city that caused harm to her community. Why should someone lose their house over seven hundred dollars in back taxes? She asked when the city is giving develop. Offers tax breaks to build housing Bill profit off of its because Bernie listened to black voters it's because of his diverse policy team that he understands that access to universal health care is a crucial step, but not a panacea, healthcare disparities persist, even among athlete, black Americans and part because of point of care discrimination. So Bernie talks about the porting historically black colleges and universities, which disproportionately graduate black doctors among other than training. Training nurse. So the people feel comfortable puffing that they're getting quality people understand their backwards. Working on those issues. So we can all of these things question. All. I know you open the question of changing our priorities. Representation matters as New York Representative Alexandria, Cossio Cortez once put it our identities. Whether we like it or not are a lens. We can never take that lens off when all of congress primarily comes from the lens of one gender and one race. And also one class. There's no way that all of those lenses together when they primarily come from one. Let one lens can champion all Americans at the end of the day. I'm a candidate that doesn't take corporate money that champions Medicare for all a federal jobs guarantee, the abolishment of ice and a green new deal, but I approached those issues with the lenses of the community that I live in Bolton. No, one person is ever going to be fully Representative of every American divers for that. And it's a beautiful thing. But it's also why it's so important the more than anything our movement. Chooses leaders who listen who here and who can grow that's burning actions. Fire me even have a conversation with him the strikes, and he made during his first ham pain was black lives matter. You know, he didn't get Swedish about it. You know what I'm eating? Eating what he did was he met with them. And he found out what their concerns were. You don't need time to meet with people like Shaun king and to get some insights on what communities color looking for. And I think this pretty noble, you know, most being the descent is not my problem. Most people would. Taking a deep dive. What's the situation is the presenting what he did was? He said let me into your world. I can better understand it. There's commendable. I heard a similar message from Sean Kane, I have sat down with Bernie myself and talk to him about bail reform, I co-hosted event with Bernie last summer in Los Angeles. And he was eager he met with me in met with Patrisse Cullors, one of the founders of black lives matter he met with the pollution of local activists who told him real human stories of what it meant to be jailed because you couldn't afford your bail. And I heard Bernie one saw him intently listened to everyone in a way that was empathetic. And then that day, I've heard he integrate the ideas, it was me eight women meeting with Bernie black and Latino women, and I heard him integrate the ideas they shared with him the stories in the. Dose that they share with him. I heard him not only mentioned those things that day. I heard him repeat them over and over and over and then a month later, he did a form on bail reform. And now when he speaks across the country, he talks about it in a way that I was touched by. Everything that was great about Bernie five years ago fifteen years ago thirty years ago, it's still great. But I've seen him grow. Improve learn really substantive ways we heard the same from Representative Simmons. I think that Bernie representatives amac community because he's relatable he's not trying to be a camera person. He's not trying to be somebody other than who he is. And he's actually taking the time to listen to the needs of the people in just accordingly. And I heard it from Senator Turner to another important part of what you just described is the listening part his willingness to listen, I've been in rooms with him where he will have a legal pad and a pin. He's taking notes not just the people around him absorbing it for him. But he's taken the knows that is key for leader. We need leaders who understand they don't know. What all they can do it all by themselves. Many. For light work, but somebody that will listen, and that is the hallmark of Julia. And I heard it emphatically from Leslie these been there for his entire local career looking to help people and no other candidate can say anything even close to that. So some of them are pilling intelligent interesting. But it's Bernie is Bernie, you know, his burn, you know, your heart. He's the only one that's real ins do what he says he's going. That's it for this week's show as always let us know what you think at here the bird at Bernie Sanders dot com. 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BONUS: We Are Not Your Firewall

Intercepted with Jeremy Scahill

42:51 min | 8 months ago

BONUS: We Are Not Your Firewall

"This is intercepted. Jeremy scahill coming from the offices of the intercept in New York City and this is a special bonus. Episode of intercepted. We stand together. We've fight for an agenda that works for working families and the middle class. If we get involved in the political process we stand for Justice. If we put compassion. If we understand that we are all in this together my family to care about your family. Your family canceled my family brothers and sisters. If we stand together we will not only defeat trump. We will transform this country and create a government an economy that works all not wealthy campaign contributors. Thank you as the presidential campaign of Senator Bernie Sanders Gains Momentum. The attacks against him are intensifying billionaire. Former Mayor of New York City Michael Bloomberg has announced that he's going to unleash a spate of attack ads against Bernie Sanders. While Pete Buddha judge and Joe Biden are harping on about comments that sanders made on sixty minutes where he praised. Cuba's literacy efforts with very opposed to the authoritarian nature of Cuba. But you know it's unfair to simply say everything has bet you know. When Fidel Castro came into office? You know what he did. He had a massive literacy program. Is that a bad thing. Even though Fidel Castro did a lot of dissidents imprisoned in in that's right and we condemn that the red baiting attacks on Bernie Sanders which by the way also existed when he ran against Hillary Clinton in two thousand sixteen are most definitely going to increase this week ahead of the South Carolina primary on Saturday and next week's Super Tuesday contest it's worth pointing out that what Sanders said about Cuba under Fidel Castro is very similar to what Joe Biden's former boss Barack Obama said while Biden was his. Vp President Castro in Cuba. I look you've made great progress in educating Chill Young people every child in Cuba gets basic education. That's that's a huge improvement from where it was medical care. The look the the life expectancy of Cubans is equivalent to the United States. Despite of being a very poor country because they have access to healthcare. That's a huge achievement. They should be congratulated. But you drive around Havana. This economy's not working now. I don't recall Joe Biden attacking Barack Obama at the time. Obama made this statement. When Obama was president and Biden was vice president. Funny how that works we have seen an apocalyptic meltdown in recent days on MSNBC and frankly on other news networks following the sanders. Victory in the Nevada caucuses. If you don't speak up now we're going to have Bernie Sanders as our nominee and that is a disaster for the country. The Democratic moderates one BIRDIE CENTERS TO BE President. Happiest Person Right. Now it's about one fifteen Moscow Thanh. This thing is going very well for bladder and they're still this endless harping in the news on the notion that Bernie Sanders online. Supporters are uniquely hostile awful people with Chuck Todd of NBC actually comparing them to the Brown shirts in Nazi Germany and Ruth. We've all been on the receiving end of the of the Bernie Online Brigade. And here's what he says. He says no other candidate has anything like this sort of digital brown shirt for gate. I mean except for Donald Trump. The question is asking us but this framing from Chuck Todd and other people the so called Bernie Bro Tag. It's propaganda it's a propaganda effort that seeks to erase the diversity of the Sanders coalition and to erase the existence of some of his most prominent surrogates and campaign officials. It's also meant to send the message that Bernie Sanders support is mostly made up of angry extremely online white men at the same time paid media pundits and surrogates for opposing presidential campaigns in the Democratic primary. Have also engaged in disgraceful attacks against black women in senior positions on the sanders campaign one surrogate for Mayor Pete Buddha judge called on sanders to show real leadership by quote muzzling a senior black woman on the Sanders Campaign. Senator Nina Turner. Msnbc PUNDIT said that Sanders National Campaign Press Secretary Brianna. Joy Gray came from the quote island of misfit black girls. And I don't care how many people from the island of misfit black girls that you throw out to defend you on a regular basis. It doesn't mean the series the line care. I don't care well to discuss all of this. And the South Carolina primary we are joined now by Senator Nina Turner and Briana Joy Gray Senator Turner of course is the senior national surrogate for Senator Bernie Sanders and she joins us on the phone from a car where she is crisscrossing. South Carolina right now Senator Turner thank you so much for joining. Us intercepted. It's a pleasure and we are also joined by Brianna joy gray national campaign press secretary for Bernie Sanders and I should add in the spirit of full disclosure a former journalist at the intercept. Bree thank you so much for being with US thank you. It's good to be here senator. Turner you are there on the ground right now in South Carolina. Give us a sense of the argument that you and the Sanders campaign are making to South Carolina voters in general but also specifically to African American voters. Because of course Joe Biden has said that South Carolina is his firewall. He keeps citing his support. Among African American voters in the Democratic primary you are relying on African Americans to carry that victory. If you win here correct mortgage part yes. Do you think they're going to stick with you through? What's been a pretty rough season for you? Because they know me they know me really well. They know Look what does the ground game looking like right now for Senator Sanders in South Carolina? Jeremy THE GROUND GAME FOUR. Senator scientists looking very stalled the senator has been in and out of the state almost twenty times since two thousand eighteen. He's been to almost sixty events in this state himself. And that's not counting. Having people like me. People like breathe joy. People like killer. Mike People like that to Cornell West people like Mr Danny Glover people like Philip. Agnew people like Victoria Duly. Who's a medical doctor? And the champion and activists for Medicare for all who have come in and out of the state to really spread the good news about Senator Bernie Sanders and his commitment to the African American community and to every community by extension. The policies is pushing whether we take Medicare for all college for all cancelled student debt. And let me lead in the castle and student debt. Canceling that debt. Had It been done at twenty sixteen? Close the racial wealth gap between blacks and whites from twelve to one to five to one and so when we talk about changing the material conditions of the black community was Senator Sanders is fighting for and has always fought for and the policies that he is unabashedly pushing. We'll have a disproportionate positive impact for change on the lives by Tallahassee hopes and dreams of the black community and Jeremy before we go to bring joy. I want to say about the firewall. It is incredibly insulting. The African American community that any elected official consider US their firewall and it is shameful in the United States of America because this is not just about Vice President Biden. It really is about the how people navigate politics in this country when it comes to African American voting block that somehow we're thought of somebody's firewall. We are the only ethnic group the only racial group in this country. Where Democrats already lay out that. We're the firewall for this party. And it needs to come to a stop. It is insulting anybody that is running for office. Whether it's our beloved senator. Or whether somebody running for Dogcatcher they need to earn the vote of lack community and not assume just because we vote overwhelmingly Democrat or because of their proximity to the first black president. That they are some. How old are vote? What are you going to do for us or to quote incredible Janet Jackson? What have you done for me lately? Part of the dominant narrative in the corporate media from Establishment Democrats. Even from some of the people running against Senator Sanders is that Bernie Sanders can't win the support of black voters now. They said the same thing about Nevada and Sanders. WanNa pretty decisive victory. They're in a very crowded field. But what is your response to that narrative that has gone on since the twenty sixteen race that Bernie? Sanders doesn't do well among black voters. Frankly it's completely out of date and anyone still peddling. It should take a look at today's morning console poll which shows again that Bernie Sanders is in fact number one in national polls with black voters so he is now number one with Latino voters number one with white voters number one with black voters and I for one that that's pretty strong indication but he has the broad base of support abroad multiracial working class coalition with enthusiasm behind it. Which is exactly what you need to go up against someone like Donald Trump. And when you look at what's going on in South Carolina as well with people like Dolly Myers local politicians who once supported Joe Biden but who looked to their constituents and looked at the enthusiasm if they're seeing on their own community and they said look I can't ignore the fact that the ground swell of support among my community members including my African American community members is behind Bernie Sanders. And anything that part of it. Because we've seen Bernie when these first three contests the only candidate to win popular vote in those first three contests in history And they see in that someone who can go the distance on top of that. We all know that he has the fundraising longevity but nobody else in this race can match and that is even more impressive given that that fundraising still coming from small dollar donors not solicitous of corporate pack money and he is now even more dramatically than before the only one in this race who can really claim that status including throughout during the general election. No Senator Turner. We are seeing once again a major tax strategy on the part of Senator Sanders opponents including my Bloomberg who has as we all know a tremendous amount of money. That is aimed clearly at Red Baiting at taking out of context things that Bernie Sanders said about the CIA in the nineteen seventies about the contra death squads Nicaragua in the Nineteen Eighty S. One of the things that concern me. was the way that the United States government had always treated Latin America. And basically as you know our history has always been that we have the right to unilaterally get involved with overthrow governments that we don't like Now there's this big focus on Senator Sanders comments about Cuba's literacy program. How are you planning to respond to now? This announcement from Mike Bloomberg that he's going to pour even more money solely aimed at attacking Senator Bernie Sanders is shows their desperation initials. They were winning. Quite frankly because what mayor Bloomberg and his team can't do won't do the stay on the issues they wanNA bring up some communist that Senator Sanders may about Cuba and it's progressive nature of his education program. Where the majority of the population even though they don't enjoy nearly as much wealth as a nation is our nation not even close but they have nearly one hundred percent literacy in. That country are blood. President Obama talked about that too so while he's rolling the tapes Senator Bernie Sanders. I guess by default. He's also rolling the tapes on our below. President Barack Obama listen desperate. Men will take desperate measures and mayor. Bloomberg is desperate desperate because his record is antithesis of Senator Sanders. He's desperate because as mayor. He pushed propagated propped up a racist policy. Called Stop and Frisk that wheel stopped. Black men and Brown means no matter. What destroying lives generational leap black and Brown me and not just as individuals but also the community and the people they love not being able to revive. This is the same man that has caught on tape saying that White folks are targeted too much and minority people not enough. This is this man. This is the same man that blame the great recession or rules that were being put in place to stop banks from rant line and this is this man and then all of the unsavory things that he's been accused of in terms of when it comes to his relationship with women and sexism in the workplace so he has some nerve. He can't stand up so he can't stand up for the issues. What are the issues Medicare for all? Are we going to make sure his nation that people have healthcare as a human right college for all canceling student debt? Green new deal. You name it on. I know he can't stand up to those issues. So they gotta find distractions even with all of the beltway people talking this nonsense. There's nobody on the ground. Everyday people on this nation asking about what Senator Sanders had to say about Fidel Castro and education program in this country. It seems like you senator. Turner and bree have both been chosen targets for political campaigns. We had a supporter and surrogate for mayor. Pete Buddha judge calling for you Senator Turner to be quote muzzled. We had Mike Bloomberg's campaign putting out an attack email going after US senator Turner for labelling him oligarch on MSNBC. And I couldn't help but notice that the majority of the citations in the Bloomberg attack were against two senior black women in the Bernie Sanders campaign. And that's who they're choosing to focus on but talk about what you are up. Against as you go around the country advocating for Senator Sanders and all of these issues in the corporate media but also from these rival campaigns and the language they use to attack you in particular you know. What's so ironic? Is that in two thousand sixteen. We were told that Bernie Sanders couldn't possibly reflect the interests of a diverse and increasingly diversifying country because this constituency was to white and now that he has the least white base of supporters in this race the attacks shifted in a really interesting direction so other campaign instill attempt to hold onto this mantle of being the most friendly toward women are friendly to people of Color as they struggle to get out of single digits with people of Color and while at the same time focusing their attacks on as you pointed out to senior black women who are accurately pointing out the imbalance of power that's happening with selection Senator Turner Very accurately describing Mayor Bloomberg as an oligarch elicited the ire of a large number of people on MSNBC and others in the pundit class who spent more energy it seems defending Bloomberg who has sixty billion dollars worth of wealth against the accurate charge that he's an old guard than energy spent decrying his record of racism. Stop and Frisk attempts to cut social security and other issues that directly affect working class people in this country hauling Mike Bloomberg and oligarchy has implications in this country that I think are unfair and unreasonable. I disagree with a lot of things. Mike Greenberg has done as a mayor but oligarchy in our particular terminology. It makes me think of some rich person who got their money off oil in Russia. Who's taking advantage of a broken and dysfunctional system? And so I think this whole election cycle has really revealed is that it's taken the mask off of those who were interested in identity only in so far as it could be weaponized to advance corporate interest and now that there is actually a party. There was a candidate who has managed to put together that Rainbow Coalition Coalition of working class people the culinary workers who came out in force for Bernie Sanders in Nevada people. Frankly don't know what to do with themselves so we're seeing a lot of this wild lashing out that yes is disproportionately focused on senator turn. I but what I am really heartened by is the extent to which most people it seems. See Right through. These kinds of attacks is very transparent. What's happening and as you saw from a supporter of voter in New Hampshire shortly before that primary who was being interviewed on. Msnbc kind of bias that you see on MSNBC and similar programs is actually driving people toward the Bernie cap and understanding exactly that the systems of power that he has been describing for the thirty years of his career. The negative effects of oligarchy in corporate ownership on the media have borne fruit. And it's very clear and is making folks understand that he is the leader that we need to push back against some of those forces. Steve macelroy this surrogate for mayor. Buddha judge Former chief of staff to the West Senate and Lieutenant Governor. He tweeted that Sanders doesn't show any leadership unless he quote muzzles you He then posted a tweet purporting to apologize to you and saying I know people won't believe this but actually I was hacked. What is your response to that attack on you and to that well purported apology from the Buddha judge surrogate. Yeah I mean. It's sad and really sometimes cope with. It's just gotTa shake your head and chuckle a little bit. It is okay for Liberal. Democrats to attach black women in America if we don't agree with them in other words black women lead black lives matter our lives only matter and black women only Lee when we're doing exactly what you want us to do in San with exactly what you want us to say. The Reverend Dr Martin Luther King Junior warned us about white liberals and he laid out an paraphrasing him but basically he was saying that as we look at the Klu Klux Klan and all of the people who visually we can look at it and know that they are racist and Anti Latte. Those people we get but the hardest part is the deal with liberals who pretend one hand and doing all of the dastardly nasty negative things behind the scenes to stunt the voices and the growth of black America and so had that been a trumper who said that the neoliberal will be all over it to the twenty first century with this man who had a prominent role within the Democratic Party in his State a role on the Buddha j campaign had that been a sanders person. They will still be quite a bloody murder but because it happened to me Nina Turner National Saturday. I'll Senator Bernie. Sanders kept paying a progressive woman. That comes from a tradition of liberation fighters rejoin myself throughout history as our sister. Kathy wrote that article laid out the Fanny Hamer's bakers of the world's the Erica. Garner is of the world if I could throw that out there. And bless her soul because she's not here with us and all the other freedom fighters from generations pass in the freedom fighters live right here today because we don't subscribe and we don't count out to them then we're fair game and Jeremy well hurt so much the Muslim of black women muzzle me and when I think about all my for mothers went through so that I can have the positions and the spaces that I have so that breed Joyce and other women who might even agree with us for Black Women. Our bodies in our minds subjugated to racism us. We're not pretty enough smart enough to do some of the very things that because of our mothers and our forefathers we are doing today it is disheartening on so many levels and this has nothing to do with me being prominent in Senator Sanders campaign. This has everything to do with me. Being a black woman in America and we deal with this shit every single day of our lives covertly and overtly. You Know Dr Viktoria Dooley's a medical doctor throughout a stat about heart disease among black women and she said that half of black women in America have some type of heart disease complication half of us. If there's so many micro aggressions and the stressors that black women under that our hearts are broken. Literally in this country at higher rates than any other group of people like men White Men White Women Latino X. Folks Asian folks that black women have the highest incidences of heart disease. Our hearts are broken and part of that says to me. Is that all of the hell that we catch on a regular basis whether it's US worrying about ourselves black women or worrying about the black children that we love the black men that we love the black community that we love and carry on our shoulders and backs is literally killing us. Had been said about illiberal else. Those Pearl Clutching folks would've been crime. Bloody murder had been said about any of the women by trumper. See 'cause we ain't come up trumps through now time about people I mean. Wrap your mind around this. We talk about people who support Donald J trump which people who report to be part Democratic Party and this party is lifted up black folks that we bought the only group in this country that disproportionately for them over ninety percent of the time no matter what now they come in and out of the Democratic Party but black folks we dare come hell or high water and this is what this man said about me liking to when trump card Amoroso adult. Now I don't believe in the politics of trump. Obviously but you know I'm worked form. That was her right to do it. But I don't like she's a sister where I don't from Buckeye from Ohio. But nobody spoke up. You know 'cause I'm Arosa because she had worked with Donald Trump. They thought it was okay for that man to call her a dog if we stand up for women and stand up a black woman and keep talking about black women backbone. No matter how we sway politically you have to come out and speak out against anti blackness and misogyny targeted towards black women rejoin are not asking you to be the jump on the bandwagon of Senator Bernie Sanders. But what you need to do is think about humanity. And whether it's right or wrong when people are wrong you gotta call them out and this is a double standard in this country when it comes to black women no black labs don't matter and particularly black women's lives don't matter because we are supposed to be subjected to we're only supposed to talk about what neoliberals tell us to talk about and be on the side that they tell us to be on the side of and what we don't do that we are scorned and hunted put a muzzle on me really and then they asking a white man you know my beloved senator about that. I mean it wouldn't be acceptable if they were asking a black man to do it but think about that that's going to white man to put a muzzle on me. You know what? My ancestors were muzzled. Literally muzzled in the United States of America under slavery bodies minds hearts spirits muzzle. What I have to deal with is the fact that young black women after me tortoise and how many degrees you have it don't matter how many titles you have. You Ain't never good enough. Well I think anyone who who is watching you and has watched these years of your fight. Anyone who is an intellectually honest or moral person stands in awe of you and your presence I it may not be objective but I. I'm in that camp of people who've watched you over these years and I stand off what you stand for and the struggle that you represent me you know Brianna on this issue because you are. The National Campaign Secretary. Has Buddha. Judge himself reached out about the language that his surrogate used in this attack against Senator Nina. Turner. Now not as of yet. Not that. I'm aware of and it's it's frustrating because both people to judge and some other candidates in this race right now have claimed that every candidate should be entirely responsible for the actions of every single person who speaks in their name. I have said many times before we are all responsible for our supporters and we need to step up. That's what leadership is all about. And so that was a really convenient Pasha. Take as long as the media wasn't covering what has always been to be clear. This isn't new. The media just has been indifferent to the attacks which have always been equally distributed if not disproportionately directed at historically marginalized groups including a lot of people of color on the left. You might recall that. You know wild. They're a bunch of anonymous people who are being tied to the Sanders campaign was a daily coast reporter a journalist who had to be fired because of remarks he made about Senator Turner last year the high highest profile official people who have been making these kinds of racist comments have not been from the Bernie camp at all and yet we continue to see complete and total silence from those who just as recently as last week you know. I'm I'm old enough to remember when it candidates done that stage last week and said that everyone was responsible for everyone who supported them. And why I certainly don't think that's the standard that should apply because it's facially absurd. I think that the hypocrisy deserves calling out. There have been several paid. Msnbc contributors pundits even some people that are hosts who have also engaged in Ad Hominem attacks against senior members of the Sanders campaign. Who Happen to be black women. One of them. For instance. Dr Jason Johnson was debating Senator Turner on the air when she first raised the Mike Bloomberg oligarch issue and then later on Sirius. Xm He referred to the black women that are working on Senator Sanders campaign as coming from the island of misfit. Black Girls He apologized on twitter at. I'll just read his apology. And then I want you to respond not just to him but to MSNBC in general in the way they cover your campaign earlier this week in a conversation about the sanders campaign and the behavior of his staff supporters. I referred to his campaign spokesperson as coming from the island of misfit black girls. It was a harmful and unnecessary comment. And I Apologize. Your response bree. I am glad that he made a statement. I don't know that it's particularly productive for me to continue to relitigate how I feel about it in particular but what it is. Frustrating is to see him right back on the Internet today calling people out for attacking black women without any kind of introspection of how he is among those ranks rate so again. It's just the ongoing. Hypocrisy is a problem and more importantly a broader audience than than just kind of these interpersonal. Disputes is the fact that if you turn on the news the mainstream news if you turn on the view I was just watching a clip from this morning. The way the questions are framed is very explicitly. How can we stop? Bernie Sanders When do you think is the time where your old boss? President Barack Obama is going away in because there are reports that President Obama does not think that Bernie should be the nominee. There's no hiding the ball. They had rahm Emanuel on the view earlier today and they asked him will can we stop Bernie Sanders how can we stop? Bernie Sanders as though Bernie Sanders was the Republican candidate. That we're trying to unseat from the White House. And so that posture which has gone largely unchecked. I will say there have been some welcome. Examples of clarity rationality over the last couple of days. Especially you know post Nevada joy and read had a really lovely segment actually following the new. The Nevada win a non Georamas had a wonderful segment that went viral yesterday. I mean there are these moments. I don't want to indict everybody with a broad brush but I think it's incumbent on all of us to question why the framing is which one of these moderates can take out Bernie Sanders. How many of these votes can we stack? On top of each other to claim that moderates actually have a greater percentage of the electorate then Bernie Sanders. How long are we going to ignore? Statistics that show that Bernie Sanders actually did batter with self-described moderates in Nevada than any of these other so-called moderates. How long are we going to ask? What's what's motivating black leaders. What's motivating Latino voters without taking into account that Latinos are the most Unin underinsured group in this country and thinking that maybe possibly these interest groups have priorities that are broadly shared with a majority of Americans and that impact. Most electable candidate is the candidate whose policies aligned substantively with overwhelming majorities of working class. Americans of all colors. All Creeds all stripes senator. I know you have to go in a minute but I just want to ask you in the aftermath of of your labeling of Michael Bloomberg as an oligarch which by the way I think is factually correct Statement whatever anyone thinks about how you said it It's you're stating something that I think is indisputably true. That Michael Bloomberg is an oligarch on that issue. Though you mentioned stop and Frisk there was also the Muslim surveillance program. There's Bloomberg's positions on workers on the minimum wage on Social Security on Medicare his support for the Iraq war which he continues to just say all. Oh it was an innocent mistake and and well meaning people just made a mistake at oops. We got a war with all that we know about Mike Bloomberg from his public record from also his refusal to speak clearly about what has been alleged by numerous women about him and his companies. Do you believe that Mike Bloomberg would be anyway a positive alternative to Donald Trump in the White House? I mean we're talking about the size of the same coin and Senator Elizabeth. Warren laid it out very clearly on the debate stage. Do you believe that the public record of Michael Bloomberg supports the notion that he has been a racist policymaker? Very clear that it has. I mean that is irrefutable when you are the person that has the power in your hands when the police department answers to you and what you decide to do instead of being just own crime and smart on crime and use the best tools that we have and talk to experts about what it would be necessary to both make a city safe but make it just and to not feed into generational stereotypes about black men being more criminal than anybody else and then Brown me and by extension so he had the power to do all of those things. But what did he do? He went to the worst side of this thing and Oprah police black and Brown communities and clearly targeted capital T. targeted not by accident but on purpose this policy was made and executed by him and his police force he wants called The New York Police. His own personal force but he put forth a policy under his watch that destroyed lives. It is a racist policy to its core. That is irrefutable. We talked about the actions that one took when they had the power. And Tommy Thompson. Gear Jeremy on all that you have just a numerator up into an including stop and Frisk every time for the most part Michael Bloomberg had the power to go in a direction that was more liberating. He chose the worst path and he used his power to suffocate. The poor you at one time. New York was seen as the playground is still is for the wealthy homelessness. Went up under this man's watch okay again. The power not in the city council. He wasn't a member of the legislature. He is a mayor and so what we have seen from. Mike Bloomberg is a forecasting of how he will act as president. I mean this is the man who saves the rules to get another term. You'll hear me another term in New York and in change the rules back after he left so that nobody else could do the same thing. He doesn't go out and build coalition with people. He makes demand he believes. His money can buy this democracy. He did it in New York and he's doing it again. This man even right now in deciding to run for president decided to ignore Iowa. Ignore New Hampshire Ignore Nevada even though he had the gall to be up on the stage ignoring all of the early states banking. Everything lips early on Super Tuesday. Poor three hundred and fifty million of his dollars into buying the democracy and so we have to ask ourselves two very important questions number one. Is that the kind of country we want to be where the wealthiest people can continue to buy this democracy. That's number one and number two. Who Sat are these people on are they are on their own side and just trying to gobble more power more power more power at the expense of the many or are they on the side of the workaday people of this nation. From all walks of life Senator Bernie Sanders on the side and has proven to be all throughout his life while elected and not elected to certainly be on a justice journey. Mike Bloomberg who was in the same generation has not proven himself to be on the justice journey and even when he had pure power. He used that power to hurt. Final question for both of you. Tom Perez the chair of the DNC. Do you believe that he is actively trying to stop Bernie Sanders from getting the nomination? What we're focused on is the fact that we have the grassroots enthusiasm an unprecedented volunteers a donor base of small dollar donors. That can take us through strong through the general and compete with Donald Trump and a record so far in this election suggests that we might not have to deal with anything at the convention at all. We can win this cleanly if people who support this campaign in this movement continued to invest in it that the way that they have. What's important is that? We are relying on any institutional factors. We're not relying on support from any establishment figures to win this thing We are unique in being able to say that and that is exactly why we have a platform that is unlike any other candidate in this race. There's a direct correlation between our and institutional independence and the fact that we're actually fighting for them. Putting forward policies that Americans have wanted for decades. But which haven't been delivered to them because our politicians haven't been independent and free enough to actually do the bidding of their constituents as opposed to the fitting of the Special Interests Goo support their campaign. So that's what we're focused on. You WanNa keep people really galvanized an optimistic and excited about what we've accomplished so far not to get too Meyer down. We've had a lot of passionate discourse of course this conversation and it's real and it's true and it's Cathartic frankly to be able to talk about it. Because living online the way that Senator Turn. I do can be somewhat exhausting but at the end of the day it is so enervating to know that we have the people at our backs and to have a victory like the one Nevada which was brought to us on the backs of these working class people on the Strip these culinary workers these people who know more than anybody else but corruption is who know more than anybody else what it is to be exploited by the corporate entities that have bought our democracy and to know that we can arrive at tidal wave of enthusiasm and support all the way through and and get Donald trump out of the White House. What breeze you as you. Well know the reason I'm asking about Tom Perez and I'll put this to you senator. Nina Turner is because we know that there were very dirty tricks pulled against the sanders campaign in the two thousand sixteen primary. There has been controversy over rules changing under the DNC and Tom Perez that seemed to benefit candidates. Like oh Michael Bloomberg at. I'm I'm wondering given that senator. Sanders said very publicly that the Republican and democratic establishments can't stop the campaign. I'm wondering how you are strategizing dealing with the kind of war within where you have the establishment of the party Pretty clearly to those of US paying attention trying to stop Bernie Sanders from winning this nomination. Even going so far as a brokered convention Elena eight-man everything that brings joy said Jerry. So yeah we know exactly what happened in twenty sixteen. We had a unity reform. As you both know that was formed out of an agreement between Senator Sanders Secretary Clinton. I was one of the members on Unity Forum Commission. We did lots of work. Certainly many areas. We didn't go as far as the Bernie eight as we called ourselves a wanted to go the fact that the super delegates cannot vote on the on. The first ballot is certainly something monumental. The Democratic Party wants to continue to grow and build out his base and beat a big tent party that it should be that it can be Senator Bernie. Sanders is the candidate to do that and as laid out. We've already done so much on the ground in terms of the synergy and energy of people from all walks of life who are gravitating to this campaign. Because they know that Senator Bernie Sanders is on their side in other words there rocking with him because he's rocking with them and they understand that he believes that not meet us so we're gonNA continue with our grassroots base that is going to be the continue to build and be a norm ass-. The wind is GonNa be so epic that nobody can deny it can't deny and if they do something like that you know I. It just would be the antithesis of what the Democratic Party purports to stand for. And then lastly those very people that rejoin just enumerated helped our campaign helped Senator Bernie make history in this country by winning the first three states the popular votes of Iowa. The popular vote of New Hampshire popular votes of Nevada and no other presidential candidate has done that now. Democrat and not Republican and so those people are speaking very loudly and clearly in terms of who they believe that only is the best candidate to defeat President Donald J trump also the candidate who has the vision to turn things around in this country and the courage to bring hope to bring synergy and to bring the change that the working class people of all backgrounds deserve and need for time such as this Senator Nina Turner. I know you are campaigning. On the ground there in South Carolina. Thanks so much for taking time out to speak with us. Thank you for having us. Jeremy Brianna joy gray. Thank you so much for being with us as well thank you. It's a pleasure senator. Nina Turner is senior national campaign. Surrogate for Senator Bernie Sanders Brianna Joy. Gray is the national campaign press secretary for Bernie Sanders and former journalist for the intercept. And that does it for this. Special Bonus. Episode of intercepted. We will be back with our regular program on Wednesday. You can follow us on twitter at intercepted an instagram at intercepted. Podcast if you liked what we do on this show you can support going to intercept dot com slash joined to become a sustaining member. Intercepted is a production first. Look Media and the intercept or lead producer. Is Jack Doro our producer as Flynn believe? Swain is our associate producer and graphic designer. Betsy Reid is editor. In chief of the intercept required. Mix this special. Episode Transcription for the program is done by. Nudie the Marquez Martinez our music as always was composed by DJ spooky until Wednesday. I'm Jeremy Scahill.

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"Almost the whole nation's capital walking on eggshells around President Trump. The lead starts right now. President Trump everyone hoping upon hope that he will sign the deal that will keep the government open, but will not give him his ball. And it seems both Democrats Republicans are breeding their teeth until he signs it. That cloud of secrecy is cigar smoke. New details today about Paul manafort's alleged dealings with man, prosecutors say as ties with Russian intelligence what Robert Muller now wants to know about the shady encounter in private cigar room plus infiltrated by Iran. An air force officer who left the US and vanished. Now. She's a wanted woman wanted for allegedly sharing military secrets to Iran. Walkability Jake tapper. We begin today with the politics lead Americans on pins and needles two days until another partial government shutdown, and no one seems to know for sure whether President Trump will sign the bipartisan deal to keep the government open and also provide some funding for new border barriers. And when I say, no one seems to know I mean, no one take a listen to White House press secretary Sarah Sanders earlier today, it's hard to say definitively whether or not the president's going to sign it. House and Senate Democrats are refraining notably from gloating about the deal gloating about for instance, the fact that the president will get less and border security funding in this deal than the deal. He turned down in December. Why are they being so mom? Well, all sources tell me. Congressional Democrats want the president to sign the deal, and they're afraid of doing anything that might push the president over the edge. So they're treading very carefully. The house is expected to vote on the legislation. Tomorrow night, followed by the Senate, what sources tell C, and they believe President Trump signed the line that has dotted. But there is no guarantee the lives of under thousand federal workers, plus countless contractors and other Americans could of course, be up ended. Once again, though, the president vowed today he does not want another showdown shutdown. CNN's Abby Philip starts us off today from the White House. President will he or won't he President Trump keeping Washington waiting as he decides whether to sign a compromise agreement on border security that would prevent a second government shutdown impacting the lives of eight hundred thousand federal workers and their families. We're going to look at the legislation when it comes and making determination publicly, the president says he still needs to review the details of the proposal. But to people who've spoken with him say he intends to sign it. We haven't gotten it yet will be getting it. We'll be looking for land mines because you could have that speaker Nancy Pelosi today, offering up some advice as with all compromises, I say to people support the Bill for what is in. Don't judge it for what is not in it. But Trump says isn't happy with what he's been told about the Bill which gives him less money for the border wall than the deal. He could have gotten before the shutdown and far less. The five point seven billion dollars his administration. Demanded Senator Richard Shelby who briefed Trump on the deal Tuesday. Arguing that the smaller number for the wall was a down payment on a bigger deal. For sit into the president lady evaluated in in context visits. Only down. This is not offensive. This is not Bill in all. In fact, President Trump today teasing that he might use executive action to move federal money around in order to build more wall. But we've got a lot of funds for a lot of other things. But with the wall, they wanna be stingy, but we have options that most people don't really understand options that some Trump allies urging him to act on. I hope you use his emergency power to take care of order because it's right thing to do other Republicans expressing frustration that the recent shutdown didn't help them produce more comprehensive deal. You have to ignore reality to say say anything different. At didn't help us the deal. We ended up with now is worse than we had before the shutdown and with congress leading to act by Friday, the president signaling that he wants to avoid another politically damaging. Shutdown shutdown would be a terrible thing. I think a point was made with the last shutdown people realized how bad the border is how safe the border is. And I think a lot of good points made. But I don't wanna see another one. And President Trump has been citing twenty two billion dollars in the Bill for border security as proof that this Bill is not as bad as it seems. But that figure encompasses a lot of things, including personnel, and technology and vast majority of that is not his border wall. Jake fill up at the White House. Whereas thanks so much. Let's dive into this with the experts. Kevin listen to White House press secretary, Sarah Sanders. It gets hard to say definitively whether or not the president's going to sign it until we know everything that's in it, the president isn't fully happy as he said yesterday with everything that's in the legislation, but there are some positive pieces of. What's holding them back from knowing everything? That's in it. I'm I understanding is that the house and Senate negotiators have been briefing. The Republicans have been briefing the White House. I think they know it's just legitimately. Don't know the president's going to sign it. I mean, I think senior staff in this White House has been burned so many times saying that one thing was going to happen. Only to have the president changes mind that at the very end. So I think not only Sarah Sanders doesn't know, but others inside the White House don't really know whether or not the president's going to sign it. I think that the staff is somewhat become become somewhat a nerd to the president's decision making process. I think the bigger challenge they continue to have. And where you're you're going to continue to see fractured support up on Capitol Hill is that congressional Republicans, particularly in the Senate, they've grown very weary of this drama. And let me ask you because Democrats as I said earlier, they're really keeping their mouth shot. I mean, they have a case to make. Although there are progressives who are upset with the Bill. They have a case to make that as you just heard a Republican congressman say this Bill is a worse deal for the. Republicans the Republican point of view, then the one the president turned down Democrats kind like walking eggshells because they don't want to upset the president. I think everyone is walking on shelves, and I like we've seen in the White House staff, loosen them critic, then in the house, I think our bar is so low than to say that we claim an accomplishment or success because we're keeping the government opened goes to show the crisis in governing that we have we have all elected officials trying to deal with an irrational and impulsive and quite frankly out of control president of interstates. And this is what has gotten us. Nobody seems happy with this and everybody, including eight hundred thousand workers wonder if they're going to be getting a paycheck after Friday, so Senator Turner. So this legislation has one point three seven five million dollars for border security. The last one the one that the president rejected at one point six billion. I'll take a listen to Sarah Sanders, talking about the idea that this is actually a worse deal. The president the great negoti. Gator got I think those are people that are being disingenuous and Nancy Pelosi said directly that she wasn't going to give a single dollar for the wall. So that's just not true. This includes roughly one point four billion dollars for the wall. That's just people that are trying to spend to hit the president. I mean, this isn't for wall. This is for border barriers. I don't know where we are in the in the semantic that we're in. Yeah. I mean, the president stepped on his own victory should've took the first deal and Ben down with it. But he couldn't do it in terms of sign. I don't even know if the president knows whether he's going to sign it. But there are eight hundred thousand reasons why plus the contract workers while he while he should sign it. What do you think of all the do do agree that? I mean, I think it is fair to say we have never seen before a White House staff and congress so unsure of what president is going to do about a government spending Bill. Yeah. Sarah Sanders learned not to box herself into position because that comes back to burn her as Kevin pointed up, but I do think there's a way that everyone gets a claim victory out of this. I think this is the deal Donald Trump to the base that he would fight. Did he get more money? No. He's showed the base willing to try. And that does stand for something because going forward where do. I think Republican voters are going to go. If the Democrats are really taking the vision that you know, walls are immoral and we won't stand for it. If Donald Trump congest show people that he's making progress on the wall, he'll be fine. And progressives or have been some members of the progressive caucus in congress that are not happy about this Bill. They were trying to get a camp on ice beds, which would basically allow more undocumented immigrants to be released into the community. And the only the most dangerous ones would be happen. Nancy Pelosi said, it's important to focus on what's in the deal. Not what's not in the deal. What are you hearing from your progressive friends on the hill? I mean, I I agree with the speaker on this. And I think most people who are thinking about the pure focus right now is not another government shutdown. Those other things should be worked out after this. But the most important thing is not to shut the government down and leave those workers imperil yet, again, can I say one thing I find confusing because didn't we all sort of think that ultimate deal is some kind of permanent barriers for permanent Dacca protections. And then all of a sudden. We start negotiating about detention bents. I mean, this seems like this took very weird term. I don't fully understand. I don't understand the democratic position that we should reduce the amount of beds for people that are seeking asylum families that are traveling over the border in order to help him. I just don't under- product of the fact that we're trying to do this in three week increments. If you're going to get large deal on something as contentious, DACA, it's going to take a much longer Senegal not just in three weeks at with a CR standing rally deadlines. It probably would add to that. The proud of the problems that we are doing this a very rational way all the time that's been Gration. It's a very complex complicated issue. Both immigrants Republicans want to fix but without comprehensive immigration reform. Everything falls by the waves. I wasn't happened to the dreamers was happens to be as what happens to matching Imigran labor with the economy, and the needs of the people in our in our system what happens to the eleven million. Are still undocumented so much daycare of and here. We are talking about beds assume that the president signs this because it looks like he might. Although nobody knows for sure. So I wouldn't bet money on it. But let's assume he does there is still this question about will. He then declare a national emergency to try to get more money for his wall that way Now Sean Hannity who is one of the president's friends and advisors. He called originally called the deal garbage of last night. He kind of changed his tune a little bit take a listen. I'm not as concerned some other conservatives if the president signs the Bill, but there's a couple of Fs step one president decides he wants to sign the compromise. Now, if he'd take step two, which is the president utilizing money's identified some nine hundred million dollars for digital construction. But the important third step needs to happen simultaneously. And that would be the president would need to declare a national emergency. I will this is not an original observe -ation. But I would I would note again that we don't really have state. On media in this country. We have media run state. Man that take. Hannity doesn't have to be concerned because it's not his paycheck in payroll. So he can have this kind of attitude about it. The president is gonna get this wall by hook by crook. Are really do believe that so whether he declares an emergency or whether he looks at different funding sources, which they are the pinch here pinch their he's going to build a portion of this wall. No matter what. So that he can say to his base by twenty twenty he delivered against the a wheel of Democrats. He's gonna try to this Democrats. He's getting the wall. I would agree with that slightly paraphrase differently and say he's going to declare victory. No matter what what that looks like whether it's through national oh declaration of national emergency or saying that he's moving money around the executive decision. He's going to declare Vic. All right, everyone. 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Head over to book dot com slash podcast to save up to seventy percent off your next all inclusive vacation that's book dot com slash podcast. With our national lead. Now, former Trump campaign chair Paul Manafort back in court and behind closed doors judges deciding right now if Manafort violated his plea deal by lying special counsel, Robert Muller's team it centers around secret meetings inside a New York cigar club. Whereas Jessica Snyder reports Manafort allegedly passed on private campaign data to a man with contacts with Russian military intelligence. Tonight. The federal judge overseeing Paul manafort's fate is considering whether Manafort lied to Muller's prosecutors during talks, if the judge decides Manafort lied, it could impact manafort's March sentencing with the judge possibly imposing a stiffer sentence crime. But the question surrounding Paul Manafort in any possible Russian collusion are still swirling and special counsel. Investigators believe details about manafort's meeting at the height of the twenty sixteen campaign inside this Manhattan cigar bar could prove pivotal on August second 2016 Manafort met up with his Russian business, associate constant Kalinic, just blocks from campaign headquarters inside the private grant Havana room in midtown Paul Manafort was still Trump's campaign chairman and Kalinic had ties to Russian intelligence at the time. According to the FBI and in a closed hearing last week special counsel prosecutor, Andrew Weissmann revealed the dinner meeting was very much to the heart of what the special counsel's office. This is investigating manafort's deputy. Rick gates, also attended the cigar room meeting and all three men apparently left through separate doors Kalinic's alleged connections to Russian intelligence is likely why Weisman said in court last week there is an in-person meeting at an unusual time for somebody who's the campaign chairman to be spending time and to be doing it in person inside the grand Havana room. The men allegedly talked about Ukrainian policy and a peace plan that would have benefited Russia by lifting economic sanctions manafort's lawyers. Now, say Manafort told Kalinic any peace plan idea was quote, crazy. And they have repeatedly argued Manafort never intentionally lied to prosecutors, according to the Washington Post just days before they met in Manhattan Kalinic sent Manafort cryptic note, saying he had met with a man who had given Manafort, quote, the biggest black caviar jar several years ago, the posting saying congressional investigators believe black caviar was code for money and prosecute. There's also seem to be looking at whether this August twenty sixteen meeting was when Paul Manafort shared campaign polling data with Kalinic something manafort's attorneys inadvertently revealed in earlier court filings. And this wasn't the only meeting between Kalinic and Paul Manafort, according to prosecutors they apparently met several times throughout 2017, including when Kalinic was in Washington for Donald Trump's inauguration as well. As into twenty eighteen Jake all of these points of interest now for prosecutors. So. Oh, thanks so much for me to say three of you have worked on presidential campaigns. Anybody here had a secret lunchtime meeting with a somebody with ties to Russian military intelligence gar. Never I worked on three presidential campaigns. And you eat all three meals at your desk in campaign headquarters, unless you're unless you're in an airport somewhere at at. How to reach. You. What's weird is that the people off for secret meetings, Panama goes abroad, that blows my mind because the fact that campaign manager would leave for extended periods of time and other people will ask questions that's just bizarre, noting you reacted when it noted that all three of the men at that meeting left from separate doors? They have nothing to hide, but they're in a smoke filled room. And there's nobody knows where they are very suspicious. Indeed. And when it comes to these meetings between Manafort and Clendenin coop prosecutor says say has ties with Russian military intelligence, the G, are you a prosecutor told the judge last week that these meetings are quote very much to the heart of what the special counsel's office is investigating. And we know this special counsel is tasked with finding out if there's evidence of conspiracy between the Russian government and the anybody in Trump's orbit. Yeah. I mean, it's pretty basic. Did you talk to Russians they say, no they lie about it. Then they find evidence of it that raises some red flags, and I think, you know, the big news this week is that the Senate Intel committees seems like they're wrapping up their investigation, and you kind of. Have this discrepancy between what Mark Warner says, well aren't really wrapped up and Richard Burr coming out the Republican on committee saying there's no direct evidence of collusion. Here's my question. We know that Michael Cohen lied to congress about the duration of the Moscow project. They have lots of questions about the Trump Tower meeting in all these Senate members have very clearly indicated to the press that they know other people lied to them as well. And they all are kind of circling around done junior all these questions get back to Trump Tower meeting and the duration of the Moscow project. So if I could say, I talked to somebody on the Senate intelligence committee staffer who told me that I think what the difference is going on here is direct evidence the idea of direct evidence and the Republicans are saying, well, there's no direct evidence in Republic Republicans are saying that Democrats are saying there's a whole lot of circumstantial vast. Yeah. No. It's not surprising. I mean, both sides are doing what they are supposed to do alternately, though, the mayor can people deserve to know. What the truth is or guardless of political party and both sides want that then the choice of words and the Senate meter ship and intelligence select committee is worrisome because this words logical end exhausted. I don't think any of those things are true. If we are to believe that there's plenty then a set of this evidence. And I think it's worrisome that up to this point for the last two years has been a bipartisan on a bipartisan track on the fact that now they're going different directions. I don't know maybe said is Republican Senator strength to calm down the president. So he signs off the agreement comedy. I think in the process, but this is still always always eventually turned into some partisan ink blot where everybody decides to see what they wanna see when they look at it. It's just not as important. It's important that they went through their oversight. It won't be as important as the evidence that the special counsel Muller. Because this is political theater and its public is quarter public opinion, the court of law and evidence and facts from the special counsel will be more. Listen to congressman Adam Schiff, he's the new chairman democratic chairman of the house intelligence committee. He was asked about this debate going on the Senate side, here's what he had to say. Burst. There's no evidence of collusion. He founded his committee. What's your reaction to that sort of Warner differs with that conclusion? We certainly strongly disagree with it in the house. They disagree with it. And I think it comes down to if you ask somebody a question and they lie to you. Sure. You didn't find any evidence of anything? But you know, they lied to you in the Senate Intel members have said that they have refer made referrals to Muller up people. They have suspicion of lying to congress. And so they are Muller ticket from here. And remember Michael Cohen is going to jail because he lied to congress in. So maybe they didn't find evidence. But they knew people relying. That's where I suspect. This roadblock is also the thing that that's the US attorney's office for the southern district of New York. Michael Cohen, that's where a lot of people even allies of the president say that's where the real trouble lies of because who knows what is going to find. But just a an open open opening day. Hunting season and go inside the Trump organization, you can find anything you want up to now every passing day, a good heart and heart for it to for it to be a matter of Indian. I think that's what everybody has their opinion. But the more more people that go to jail because of lying to congress the more substantial evidence, which eventually needs something more concrete like maybe a direct link or at everyone. Stick around. No, she's not missing in Iran. Instead this former air force intelligence allegedly working for Iran. New details of what the accused by shared that may have put American agents dangerous with us. Tired of spending hundreds of dollars for prescription glasses. Our friends. Xeni optical offer a huge variety of high quality stylish frames and state of the art optics starting at just six ninety five. You can get multiple frames with this great pricing for less than one pair. 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The latest example, a split over support for the green new deal resolution introduced by congresswoman Alexandria, Qazi Cortez and Senator Ed Markey that calls for tackling climate change. We should do it. Because we are an example to the world the divide appears to fall along geographic lines with mid western contenders. Voicing more measured approaches while coastal candidates offer full-throated endorsements while Minnesota Senator Amy klobuchar is a co-sponsor of the Bill. She framed the green new deal as more aspirational. I'm in favor of it simply because I see it as a framework to jump started discussion. I don't see it as something that we can get rid of all these industries or do this in a few years. But what does make sense to me is to start doing concrete things and put aspirations out there on climate change? Unlike clo- char Ohio, Senator Sherrod Brown who is considering a run in twenty twenty has not committed to supporting the green new deal plan, not going to take a position on every Bill. That's coming out. I support a green new deal. I think we need to aggressively. We need to aggressively support climate change for other Senate Democrats twenty twenty have signed on his co sponsors of the proposal, comma, Harris of California, Elizabeth Warren of Massachusetts for a Booker of New Jersey and Kirsten gillibrand of New York on Capitol Hill Wednesday Harris reiterated her support for the resolution. In a CNN townhall on Tuesday. Former Starbucks CEO Howard Scholtz who's weighing a bid as an independent called the green new deal not realistic with not destroy stuff against a wall. Because it's a good slogan or we get a press release. Let's be truthful. Meantime, the democratic field continues to expand to include a record number of women Booker says he expects the party's gender and racial diversity will be reflected on the democratic ticket going forward. But he refused to commit to choosing a woman as his running mate, if he becomes the nominee box myself in, but should I become you know, I'll be looking to women. I. As for Republicans. They're really looking to use this leftward pull on policy in twenty twenty as a point where they can really exploit. The Democrats Senator Mitch McConnell has promised a vote on the green new deal at some point on the Senate floor really forcing these twenty twenty contenders. To take a position also any vulnerable phone -able Democrats in twenty twenty and also Jake important to know we saw at that rally and El Paso this week. President Trump already railing against the green new deal. Thank you so much. Appreciate it. So let me start with you Senator Turner Senator Amy klobuchar. She called the green new deal aspirated, all she also wouldn't fully full-throatedly commit to another progressive idea for universal health care. Take a listen. The smartest transition right now would be to do a public option and you can do it by expanding Medicaid. You can expand Medicare on both those that do that so role. I am I I'm happy to look at it as an option, but I'm not on that Bill right now. What do you make of that concern candidate who is trying to run as a more moderate democrat? If you will win the democratic nomination in this year, we will see I think there's space for everybody. So I'm not going to say that there's no room for her. At least she's being upfront, and honest, that's one thing about what she feels. But as you know, I do believe in so do millions of others of Americans that the federal government has to take a stronger role in helping to provide healthcare in this country Medicare as it exists right now is one of the most popular federal programs in this country. People are still suffering disproportionately underinsured, not insured, and I believe we need a Medicare for all plan. What do you think when you see that as Republican? You know, what's interesting is that usually what happens is the national candidates twenty twenty can it's going on the campaign trail, they are the ones that have a better chance to define the agenda to define the profile of the party on a national level. And instead what's happening is they're being forced to react to Democrats in Washington who are much further left than a lot of different communities around the country, Cossio Cortez Cortez, and a whole bunch of others who have what about thirty days of legislative or congressional experience are now defining the profile party, forcing people like Amy klobuchar Bernie Sanders, Sharon Brown to react at and define their candidacies based on reactions to their platforms. That's very very different. And I think as a presidential candidate. You wanna be the ones that shaping the agenda? You want to be able to define your agenda your own terms. And that's not the case here do agree. Somewhat. I think to some extent I think what we have here the Democrats as we hit to the presidential election. We cannot be known as to just anti Trump party. I think we are a lot more than that. And there is more than one way that we can give anyone supporting a candidate their fair shake of healthcare fiddle benefits economy. So I think plans like cortex, they open the discussion is Senator says, that's racial, but this complicated issue. And I don't think we can just focus on one Bill per se. I think if you take that as an example, it will go through many different variations if it ever were to become law. Right. So I think moving forward there's many ways to basically skin an apple. So all of my Republican guests who are not necessarily the biggest supporters of President Trump always ask them about Howard Schultz because I think you Bill Kristol meal of your kind of potentially Howard Schultz voters. He was asked about race last night. And it was a the answer. He gave. Because you might remember there was that horrific incident at the Starbucks Philadelphia and prompted this whole national conversation about race whether and how horribly that was treated at that one Starbucks. But here's here's response. It's been really criticized by progressive, stick, listen. As somebody who up in a very diverse background as a young boy in the projects. I didn't see color as a young boy. And honestly don't see color now. I mean, it's not really an answer. And that's the problem with Howard Schultz. Yes. On paper. I liken I share his concerns about how extreme the Democratic Party has become. But then once you start talking to him about his policy positions. There's no there there. I mean being a moderate being an independent isn't an excuse not to have a position on anything. And so I think his candidacy is kind of even before it's rolling. I've never heard a person of color say that they don't see color. We. Right. Good. What he said makes absolutely no sense. And again, he has the luxury not to see color you seek and just because you see to me you recognize the unique differences and people in what they bring to the table. But the say that you don't see color. It's a lie action. It's like. Pill sales and he's like, no. It's not reality. What did what did you make of that? Just because I think he needs better campaign help needs a better way to communicate to people of all colors and backgrounds. I think he's coming across somebody that although he may have grown up the project. I think he's an elitist mindset. I don't see color title. To his support for him is not guaranteed by the simple fact, that there are maybe centrist to have problems with both parties he has to actually talk about what he is for and why and offer some sort of detailed vision, and then sort of Marshall support behind him as vehicle for that vision. He hasn't really he has much of that. But Nina said he has to tackle the issue. He ever wants to be taken seriously because he will be the president up. Everyone everyone. Stick around a scheduled meeting with Georgia congressman turned into oh so much more the racist. Book guests found displayed in his office. And who the congressman is now blaming that's next day with us. Remember to create an ad like this one visit pure winning dot com slash CNN. Our National League now labor union members were stunned by what they found displayed out in the open of Georgia congressman's office and not just on display, but encased in glass of biography of confederate general Robert E the open to a page full of racist. Sentiments now as C N N's Laurin FOX reports. Republican congressman drew Ferguson is blaming his staff as the Union's president is calling on the congressman to publicly apologize. Very in each Octavius Miller shocked at what he saw inside Georgia Republican congressman drew Ferguson's office before the into my mind was the flip the bookcase over right there on a bookshelf encased in glass, the book general, Robert Edward Lee, soldiers citizen and Christian patriot. A biography of the civil war general open to a page highlighting the racist ideology of the times. That the book had some quotes from general Robert lead that were very very anti African American quote on that page. The blacks are immeasurably better off here than in Africa morally, socially, and physically the painful disciplined they are undergoing is necessary for their instruction as a race. And I hope we'll prepare and lead them to better things. It was just this respectful because of a scheduling conflict Miller and his fellow union members were unable to meet with Ferguson, but a Representative from the group later called the congressman's office to complain about what they saw the next day. The congressman's chief of staff called Miller to privately apologize and tell him the bulkhead Ben removed in an interview with CNN. Ferguson blames the books presence on his staff and said, it did not represent his own views. I did not realize was in office stay decorated office when we moved in. It's not. Something that that are ever remember seeing mega? I certainly was offended by the remarks in that book is anybody with and that's why no longer and all this. But Ferguson acknowledged he has read parts of it before that that fall on completely events ideology, my belief system. And so no, I have not delved deep into that book. But I certainly have studied that subject in in other ways, it's an important part of our American history. So that we can learn from it and not make the same mistakes the union contends, the book's placement was no accident. And once a formal public apology from the congressman to not from his staff member we've already done that. Now. Now, I spoke with Republican leadership Steve Scalise office that they were just happy that the congressman dealt with this Whitley and the book is no longer in his office. Jake. So much. What do you make this is the congressman's apology sufficient to you? Maybe you knew maybe didn't Jake, but I'm gonna tell you something black folks need to do over for black history month this year, really twenty nineteen is just really been too much. We should learn from the past but learn from the past and away to edify his staff niece and cultural sensitivity training. Maybe so he and who ever displayed that you just don't open up to a page by accident. It was done very deliberately. And I can certainly understand how Mr Miller Phil because I'm feeling the same way right now. And look I mean, it is a part of American history. This ugliness racism as you as you remind us often inappropriately appropriately. So it might be anybody that has historical books might have some with passages like that. But why was it encasing last and open to that page? I mean, that's that's the mystery here. That's right. Yeah. I mean, I'm rarely rendered speechless about things and this one did leave me somewhat speechless. I mean, it's it's not even think it's it could be. She just tossed off as a staff mistake. It can't be a mistake. And the fact that it happened is just you know, it's outrageous. I'm glad he's apologized. And I'm glad they've taken action. But you just can't let stuff like this happen. Do you think you should apologise? More more fulsome of whoever this Steph is get fired. And then the explanation for something like that to be congressional offices of this staffer didn't know how to read obviously, they knew how to read. So I think it's Matic. I think is is obviously a problem for the congressman stituations the problem for the visitors. I think should be dealt with somebody put the book there who put the book there that person should answer. Why and what's upsetting about this? Also, I can imagine for the for the union representatives who went there to meet with congressmen and just do what Americans do with their congressman talk to them and then the have to encounter this. They have to encounter this pain. It shouldn't need to be said. But. Books like this confederate plaques confederate flags. Yeah. They're part of history. But they have no place in a place of business. Stick them in the museum in eighty need to read them to scrub your office get in there and scrub it now there's been a lot in the news about bigotry recently. Minnesota democratic congresswoman Ilhan Omar this week was accused by house speaker Nancy Pelosi and other top Democrats spreading quote antisemitic. Tropes, Omar has apologized, but our own money you found her quite unwilling to discuss the controversy when he asked her about it today. It wasn't. That's your tweet. You had a tweet saying. Yes. I tweeted there's response you can run that. Omar's apology that she referred to. There was not good enough for President Trump. Anti semitism has no place in the United States Congress. What she said is so deep seated in our heart that her lame apology. That's what it was. It was lame. And she didn't mean a word of it was just not appropriate. I think she should resign from congress frankly, but at a minimum she shouldn't be on committees and Ahmen came from vice president Pence who tweeted quote to those who engage in antisemitic. Tropes should not just be denounced. They should face consequences for their words, unquote, congresswoman, Omar, specifically suggested that financial donations from American Jews are what fuel support for Israel. She tweeted, quote, it's all about the Benjamins baby. And when asked to whom she was referring, she tweeted APEC, the pro Israel lobbying organization because there is nothing that this White House finds war offensive than a politician feeding into step. Types about Jews and Jewish money and controlling politicians, which is what congresswoman Omar is accused of having done. Is there anybody that doesn't renegotiate deals in this room this room to go? I want to read this. Perhaps more than any room. I've ever spoken. Maybe more, okay. I've been called in that a couple of times too. You're not going to support me. Even though, you know, I'm the best thing that could have happened Israel. And I I'll be that. And the I know what you're not going to support man. You know, you're not going to support me because I don't want you money. You don't wanna give me money. Okay. But that's okay. You want to control your own politician? That's fine. I'm sorry. That was the wrong clip that was then candidate Trump in front of the Republican Jewish coalition suggesting that haggling Jews like to control their politicians with their money. We wanted the clip of congresswoman, Omar control room. I want the the Omar clip give us the Omar clip their wait. No, that's not it either. That's a deleted. Donald Trump re tweet from two thousand sixteen as conservative. Eric Erickson tweeted at the time quota star of David a pile of cash and suggestions of corruption Donald Trump again plays to the white supremacists. Unquote, control room. I'm not looking for stuff about Trump. I'm looking for the congresswoman, Omar Clift. You have it. Okay. I'm being told we have it. Thank you run it. Please. You. And you had some people that group, but you also had people that were very fine people on both sides. No control. That was President Trump saying that very fine people were marching alongside Neo, Nazis and skinheads white supremacists. People who chanted Jews. Yes. Those people that the anti-semites Charlottesville and my sincerest apologies. Can. We please forget about President Trump for a second. Can we show the Omar tweet, please? The Omar tweets can you show it, please? That's this isn't it either. Unbelievable. This is a tweet by House Republican leader Kevin McCarthy, right before the midterm saying, quote, we cannot allow Soros Styron Bloomberg to buy in all caps this election. Of course, that's an allegation by the House Republican leader, the three wealthy liberals, all of whom happen to be Jewish descent. We're trying to buy the election guys. I'm not talking about that either. Okay. I'm sorry. We're gonna take a quick break. We seem to have some species, you're sorting out which antisemitic tropes are offensive in. Which ones are not. We'll be right back as we sort this out. The right sheet can take your sleep and your style to the next level with Boll and branch. The upgrade has never been more Ford -able every set is crafted from one hundred percent organic cotton. They get softer and softer over time. That's why they have thousands of five star reviews and even three US presidents have Boll and branch sheets. Try them for thirty nights. 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Defy and track down US government agents this week a Ron marks forty years since the Islamic revolution brought the current regime to power and the rhetoric from the Trump administration is getting hotter. I don't think you'll have many more diverse re's to enjoy. I appreciate your hawkish language from national security adviser John Bolton is at odds with the Pentagon. According to a senior military official. The official said the military is seeking to avoid open conflict with Iran and rely instead on economic and diplomatic pressure. 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15 - Big Money vs. the City of Brotherly Love

Hear the Bern

30:45 min | 1 year ago

15 - Big Money vs. the City of Brotherly Love

"That is the sound of everyday Americans protesting the closure Philadelphia's Hahnemann Hospital as fixture for the better better part of two centuries as the Primary Teaching Hospital affiliated with Drexel University College of Medicine. The closure will displays five hundred seventy one medical residents but more than that it will eliminate a vital resource for the hospitals largely black and Latino patients look at it just off the Vine Street expressway. The hospital is ideally situated to accept patients with acute trauma or a difference of a few seconds is literally life life or death. This has been like working in a mash unit for the last fifteen years so the only reason really that we're here is for the patient population because we believe in taking care of those that are need in a matter of life and death minutes saves lives were causes lives to be lost so stabilizing and transporting out that's minutes lost that was a nurse who has worked at Hahnemann for twenty years spoke to her this past week and the Bernie campaign headed to Philly to lend it to port to to protest against the hospital closure you see it probably won't surprise you to learn. The story of Hahnemann. Bankruptcy is a little more complicated than just profits versus losses less than two years ago. A California California based private equity tycoon named Joel Friedman Purchase Hahnemann from its previous owner tenant healthcare with Friedman is doing now look suspiciously like stripping Hahnemann for parts regardless of the cost just the community more than perhaps any other industry healthcare brings into relief the tension between the needs of the vast majority of people and the prophets of a tiny minority. I minority that nonetheless gets to make decisions for all of us so this week I took the podcast on the road to talk to people on the front lines of in the words of one protest sign the fight for people over profit. This is the burn a podcast about the people ideas and politics that are driving the Bernie Sanders Twenty twenty campaign and the movement to secure a dignified life for everyone living in this country. My name is Brian. Enjoy Gray and I'm coming to you this time from the Keystone State Hahnemann isn't just any hospital. It's what's described as a safety safety net hospital meaning that provides care to underserved communities nearly half the patients admitted to Hahnemann are on Medicaid and nearly two-thirds are black or Latino hospital wasn't hurting for patients. It was a busy level one trauma center whose location right off the highway made it a crucial access point for emergency care in the area but you'll friedman the man who bought a hospital about eighteen months ago has different priorities. You see the fact that the hospital so well located in downtown Philly just down the street from the city's Iconic City Hall building is the reason is such an important location for a hospital but it's also what makes it an attractive real estate prospect for Friedman see according talking to people who own this hospital. There's too much healthcare you C- David had it on the front page of the Philadelphia Inquirer that having a hospital in this location is obsolete salita whiteness location where right here in downtown Philadelphia is like a pretty prime location. You got you got the convention center over there got parking over there. You put a hotel over here. They think they can make more money hotel office building. You know condominium right now under construction right by the KIMMEL center down the street. They're building a condominium. You can get one God. All you need is between two and four million dollars building that and they're closing this down. I had the pleasure of speaking to at least a dozen folks in the crowd that day one of them was nurse Practitioner teric con basically there's there's a big corporation that wants to shut this place down and take a community hospital away from the city. This hospital's been here for over one hundred seventy one years before the civil war this hostels in the heart of the city and what they WANNA do they wanNA turn into condos. This hospital serves low income people. This hospital serves serves are the poorest of the poor people who are people of color predominantly and we can't lose his hospital so what will closure if it closes mean for the people of Philadelphia. Most of our patients have an insurance that is not covered by. For hospitals as part of the problem the other part of the problem is the other hospitals won't take patients without the insurance. What do you mean when you say they won't take? What does that look like in practice in practice? It means that we take care of those. We we are the catch Shaw Hospital for those people that can't get health care anywhere else. Books are showing up to the emergency room rented other hospital and they're told go to hanuman like go somewhere out there stabilized and sent out those the twenty year nurse from the introduction again but I heard similar views from everyone. I spoke to a pharmacy sector since two thousand one so all right now. We're trying to fight this hospital perspective. What does this hospital mean to? The community to me. Bundy's everything like right. Now they close at one hospital. It was on Gerard Avenue so right now. They don't have especially the ones that don't have insurance. They don't have any way to go yet Jefferson. You have temporal where you'll come still get seen without all them without of insurance or anything like that too as well. We'll take one a lot a lot of cases in this hospital. Closing the Jefferson in definitely Phyllis Temple is going to get a big influx. We were a level one trauma doesn't mind you know what I'm saying so just ordered no cases from that the cases from maternity ward. What does it mean to be a level one trauma center? Oh Liberal Thomasson is like so we take all the <hes> we take all the people that got shot and killed or anything they'll come over here and we'll take them to take care of them. Survivability survivability you know but like now they have to get Russell depends like if you unfortunately if somebody got shot over here and art museum they had to get all over the simple which they might pass away in on the total even though we have mt probably certain work to keep them alive to that point but you gotta give them to that point so that the location of this hospital which is now being valued for its real estate values actually really important for them to save lives definitely definitely yeah we of course we know they have this election condo or apartment beautiful. I get it but this is the perfect location for everybody right off the highway. The nursery spoke to earlier explain that even though they haven't given up the fight the hospital is basically being sabotaged. It's increasingly difficult for it to fully function even while it's technically still open he removes some of the equipment that allowed us to function at a certain level which then forced the physicians to say say that we can't deliver care safely so he back handedly wanted this hospital closed in two weeks but because of past nap Levin Ninety Nine Our City Council are senators. We've been working to diligently. Try and keep this open for the safe delivery of care until we can get get these patients placed physician other hospitals other physician groups. The tragedy is that the closure of Hahnemann is hardly unique as part of a wave of hospital closures across the country and almost every case the root causes the same the endless search for profits outfits in the healthcare industry. This is some relief I representative from Pennsylvania's thirty fourth district who I encountered at the protest. We got hospitals closing in our area so really it's natural to San Solitaire at a hospital close in my community was lifeline lifeline for profit but ours the charity so it's not just the for profit bosses you know we have people who are mascarenas charities hospitals all over the place and it's usually impacted the already most vulnerable so it's not just a philly thing it's not just the Pittsburgh Day and this is happening all over the nation because the capitalism if you listened way back to episode two of this podcast you might remember that U._S.. Hospitals in rural areas are also closing at an alarming rate one study counted seventy two closures between two thousand ten and two thousand sixteen turning large swaths of this country and to virtual medical desserts. It's part of why it's so crucial that Bernie Sanders along with representative Jim Clyburn for and fought for and secured eleven billion dollars of additional funding under the to expand access to community health centers for those who don't have access to a primary care physician the Community Health Centers Act it will allow five point four million Americans to receive the primary care. They need a study from earlier this year found that nearly a quarter of all rural hospitals four hundred thirty of them across forty three states altogether employing one hundred and fifty thousand thousands of people are at risk of insolvency in Mississippi alone thirty one rural hospitals are at risk of closing representing nearly half of the state's total the reason the owners of those hospitals find them insufficiently. Insufficiently profitable now Hahnemann as part of a somewhat newer trend the expansion of private equity firms into the healthcare industry. Many of these firms are notorious for buying companies with borrowed money and selling off their assets to make quick blocks as a recent article in the American prospect. Put it hospitals particularly those located in gentrifying areas. Maybe their newest speculative target Joel Freeman's company Paladin healthcare appears to be following a familiar a private equity script with regard to Hahnemann after declaring the hospital unprofitable Paladin filed for bankruptcy but did not include the hospitals real estate in that filing this will allow politics to sell the land to the highest bidder and already already several developers appear interested in train the hospital the Phillies nextwave of Tony well-placed condo's. Is it true what they say that this is really just a big real estate ploy. Yes a little bit into his financials. You'll see that in the bankruptcy court only the hospitals adults themselves replaced not the land that they exist on imagine a world where investment healthcare didn't depend on whether it earned some shareholder a few bucks where new M._R._I.. Machine might go where there is a greatest need rather than where there's the most money or a banker based in California doesn't shut down in one hundred and seventy one year old hospital in Philly because he couldn't quote tried around and the fewer than two years it was on his books. That's the World D- Bernie is trying to build. I asked three state representatives who attended the rally. What if anything could be done politically to stop this closure and others like it? We could have not had an investment banker by hospital has seventy percent of its patients relying Medicare and Medicaid and have him expect to turn a huge profit. I did make sense from the beginning and the way he has conducted himself as really outrageous and it's terrible for workers and patients so we had that I would say that like for Philly elected officials. We've been talking about this for quite a while and working with the unions but you know when you have the owner of a hospital who doesn't have the best interest of workers in patients in mind then you you know you keep putting pressure on and then you also take to the streets like this that was Sarah Anne Maroteaux a state representative from Pennsylvania's twenty first district which includes the city of Pittsburgh allegheny county. I can't speak for the PHILLY right because we're we're out in Pittsburgh but I mean just from saying that so we have you know this person this this rich person who owns this hospital. That's shutting down who owns another one in D._C.. <hes> which puts in perspective that this isn't about one hospital and if we only focus on this one hospital then we'll we'll be losing track of the fact that this is a culture that this is <hes> this is something that was allowed to happen that that we really have to address his roots and I think that there are political ways that we can that we can address that and I think that that starts with getting progressive politicians and that starts with getting people who are who are unafraid afraid to say that we are going to tap corporate tackle green. We're going to close loopholes. WE'RE GONNA tax to rich. We're going to do these type of things <hes> and when you do that then that's opposed to trickle to other folks but also we're still relying on those we still don't have the march we're still going to have to focus on the things come up because we work with the resources we have and they do have more resources than us but we have each other so that was some really again who also represents Pittsburgh allegheny county these hospital closures are symptom of a profit driven health care system <hes> until until we change the way that we administer healthcare and health insurance and everything until we do a complete overhaul of the system it is this is going to keep happening. It's going to happen in urban areas like Philadelphia and Pittsburgh what's going to happen in rural areas going to happen all across America until we intervene legislatively and say no more that no more are hospitals allowed to be in healthcare allowed to be driven by profit motives because people are always going to be sick. Babies are always going to need to be borne and so you have a customer base. It's always a need and you can't apply business principles to that. You need to apply human principles. We need to humanize policies humanizes decision that we're making when we're elected to these governing bodies because it is about people's lives rounding the crew was Elizabeth fielder represent South Philadelphia again and again everyone. I asked to help me understand how and why this was happening. When it to a single structural problem they are for profit healthcare system? Everybody knows what the problem is. People who are addicted to drugs. They need right to health care a right to a job right to place to live food to eat close to where and none of us guaranteed by the system and they say you need to take responsibility for yourself and now they're saying this to the people that are Philadelphia. You're going to have less healthcare and you need to take care of it for yourself. No it's a social question as did that protest or at the start of the rally and he was clear about where to place the onus I believe as what they're saying today. I've been saying for forty years human nature more important than profit. I think what's happening. That's important that that you're apart. Uh is that young. People are starting to see that there's a systematic problem here you support Bernie Sanders I don't but I I respect the fact that you're starting to get involved but I think about these issues because I see that this is new so you go back ten years ago somebody right your ideas. You talk to your friends and they would say what are you doing. A lot of them. Still are like that. We're what are you doing. You know get a good job. Get a nice place to live and call it a day you know but now that's what I see this beginning to change you know the young people are starting to get involved and involved. We are when doctor had gotten me a senior policy adviser to Bernie Sanders in the Philly native learned about the hospital closure she immediately thought waist campaign could support efforts to keep the hospital open that way on Thursday she senator Nina Turner and myself went down to Philly but more than that the campaign used its call list detect supporters to join the protest if they could how you came to know about this protest textphone Bernie Sanders Oh happy to be part of what he's doing and <hes> I'm thrilled that he's able to organize us to get us out here to to really support the hospital and it was wonderful to hear Nina Turner. She's awesome. She's the Best Bernie's the best and I'm proud to support them. Both are you from Philly. I'm from Salafia area on the Community College teacher in the area and we need to get Bernie in there. We need to support education college healthcare all the things that he stands for well thank you I. I didn't come to you to get a property kroger and he sees. I like obviously love to hear it. Senator Nina Turner not only attended the protest. She closed out the days remarks from keynote speakers. I had to ask myself if I needed to write a script for this podcast. Ask because as always Senator Turner gives voice to calls for justice better than almost anyone can help eh over people system situation like this to the great people of the city <music> this much shane that today the people together it was the workers health care is not justice at Cornell westbound in right the great abolitionist sees nothing making the dam to man today after the speeches the protests test turned into a march which circle the hospital block drawing him community members as we processed we just walked by a car my car and the Guy Working Inside is awesome chanting keep Ah community members from across the ideological spectrum came out and if anything was clear it was at this hospital closure didn't just affect one group in particular and it was going to to take an entire diverse coalition to save it. What made you feel so strongly that come out today? Well first of all I support universal health care for all and whatnot and I'm also a candidate for. The mayor here Socialist Workers Party yeah so one of the three candidates and in Pennsylvania. I've been in Pittsburgh supporting our candidate for city council with a similar thing. That's happening there with the U._p.. Mc Club up draconian rules Dustin. The Union of this thing around Hahnemann has been going on for for several years now that was osborne hike who in addition to running for mayor on S._A._P.. Ticket is a Walmart worker and activist. I four black immigrant and women's rights in against imperialist wars anti-semitism and police brutality what I loved about talking to him was a strong grasp of solidarity as a political tool the rule hospitals in Pennsylvania's big and I've been in Texas I was in Utah and they're closing these hospitals and they're you know they always try to pin. It is <hes> an urban question but it's general and that's another way they try to divide us. I mean the United States the big population population and there's a lot between New York and L._A.. Working People and we we see how deep this crisis is. You know we need to break independently begin to mobilize. I think one of the big examples in the last couple of years a year and a half is what happened in West Virginia. Those teachers were vilified. All the kids are going to be at home. They're going to be drugs to send the other but they stood by and they won. They won fifty five counties unprecedented and that's and that's a little thing I think is a below the surface I am the wheat work at Walmart doc the largest employer in the perjury and in the world couple of places Germany. I think in the U._K.. They organized and they fight for you but you know that and the majority of people I work out at Springfield a lot of single mothers two and three jobs part time you know no benefits the cone in attendance policy that Walmart has and that that that that needs a union and that's what I'm for. We have to look to solidarity. I told somebody coworkers that come here. You know why this is important. It's the lesson of independent political actions. I remember a few years ago on the fiftieth anniversary of the voting rights bill matter of fact. It was organized by Santa D._C.. I was wondering for mayor in that race and <hes> so you know it's a big banner on the side of the building Lyndon Baines Johnson Sixty five signing oh great thing and they were all media from all over the world was actually impressive. They said well what about this. I said well if you think about it when Baines Johnston wake up that morning come down Easter Messiah what was happening in the streets in the United States then you know massive civil rights movement you know that's what one so I'd say the people that solidarity looking to what we have in common as a class you know two basic classes in society and there's a whole majority working people working farmers who are catching hell and <hes> we create the wealth and society so we have to organize independent politically and ultimately working people need political power the civil rights movement. I mean if the victory of that it was it was a social revolution overturned a system that determine our people every aspect of our life and that was the biggest division in the U._S.. Post radical reconstruction in twentieth century and that United working-class yes is still racism and whatnot yes but that defeated system and that was a big lesson in the unity of the working class. I I think what's happening in the United States in the world. This is a deep economic political and moral crisis and it's it's the system. It's important to recognize that what's happening. Hahnemann is systemic and the solutions will largely be systemic as well we mean Medicare for all to get rid of our for profit healthcare system and in the meantime until Bernie is president well we has the mood changed at each of the protests as the basically the status of the hospital and the likelihood of preventing disclosure has shifted our think <hes> a lot of the protests are different like the one on Tuesday was more of like a socialist alternative type crowd they were all asking the to publicly fund this hospital so we need to do with city and state need to take over drastically as a P. is crisis an economic crisis and a health crisis wanted me. Do you think about people's lives but this is going to be affecting so many people's jobs. It's not just the the nurses. We need to be thinking about them but it comes down to even I I've been a bike messenger. I've delivered the slides here Inter Office mail here. They're just the people that were on the other side doing that. The Food Court food cart <hes> it it goes. It's a it's a trickling effect like all throughout Philadelphia. It's not just going to be just in. This building people people don't grasp that it's going to affect a lot of people we're gonNA fight as long as we can fight for our patients for this this really vulnerable population that need a voice so as nurses houses were patient advocates and this is what we are doing. This has been like working in a mash unit for the last fifteen years so the only reason really that we're here is for the patient population because we believe in taking care of those that are need patients out over the weekend Bernie Sanders was so moved but he decided to take a detour from its plan schedule to join protesters in front of the hospital into cry the for profit healthcare system that put the hospital at risk in the first place the issue that brings us here today is not complicated at a time when our country faces a major health healthcare crisis when eighty million Americans our either uninsured or underinsured including tens of thousands of people here in the Philadelphia Area we should be moving. We must be moving forward to guarantee health care to all people as a right and we should not be talking about shutting down a major hospital and converting that property into hotels <music> all condos or some of the real estate opportunity so today we send a very loud and clear message to miss the Joel Friedman and that is do not shutdown this hospital with local officials work with the unions and the people of this city and keep this hospital arpan gracefully this gracefully as all of you know we have an infant mortality rate in this country which is much too high and we ask. How much higher will it become if this hospital shutout at a time when win the tolliday rate for women giving birth especially African American women is much too high? We how many more mothers will John If this hospital is shut down if an investment banker like Joel Freeman is able to shut down Heineman and make a huge profit by why turning this hospital into luxury condos it will send a signal to every vulture fund on Wall Street that they can do the same thing in community community after community after community we cannot and we will not allow that to happen and that is why I will be very soon introducing legislation in the Senate to establish a Twenty Billion Dollar Emergency Trust Fund so help states and local communities purchase hospitals that are in financial distress now. Joe Biden has said that he doesn't think a handful of billionaires are the problem in this country Bernie Sanders by contrast isn't afraid to confront them head on I think at the burnings approach that will help save American falling victim to corporate greed and perhaps Hahnemann hospital to that's it for this week as always always appreciate your ideas and adhere to burn at Bernie Sanders dot com or semester tweet with the Hash tag here the burn if you haven't already please take a moment to rate review are like us on Apple podcasts soundcloud wherever you're listening transcripts will be up soon until next time.

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Trump uses White House podium to hype fear tactics repeated at rallies; Trump misleads again and again after saying "I always want to tell the truth. When I can, I tell the truth"; Emails show Steve Bannon and Roger Stone discussing Wikileaks 3 days befor

Erin Burnett OutFront

54:07 min | 2 years ago

Trump uses White House podium to hype fear tactics repeated at rallies; Trump misleads again and again after saying "I always want to tell the truth. When I can, I tell the truth"; Emails show Steve Bannon and Roger Stone discussing Wikileaks 3 days befor

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Trump gives a campaign speech falsely billed as an official White House policy speech, a speech filled with misleading statements, and in some cases, latte out locks plus the president's racially charged closing campaign message and praying on fear of undocumented immigrants. A man who advised the president on immigration and let a prayer at the Trump. Inauguration speaks out against it. Reverend Samuel Rodriguez will be my guest and the commander in chief says that if migrants in the caravan throw rocks at US soldiers at the border US soldiers should return fire with actual bullets. Former Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel and Vietnam veteran will way let's go out front. Good evening. I'm Jake tapper in for Aaron brunette out front tonight the fear factor. The president not letting up holding what was essentially a campaign rally of sorts falsely billed as a policy speech at the White House. The falsehoods were plentiful the claims are contradicted by facts and expertise, in many cases men. The message was loud and clear. No nation can allow it self to be overwhelmed by uncontrolled masses of people rushing their border. That's what's happening. It's the military. I I hope there won't be that. But I will tell you this. Anybody throwing stones rocks like they did to Mexico and the Mexican military Mexican police where they badly hurt. Police and soldiers of Mexico, we will consider that a firearm. We have thousands of tests. We have a lot of tents. We have a lot of every we're gonna hold them right there. We will end catch and release. We're not releasing any longer. Much of what the president claimed during that thirty two minute campaign speech was not true. But it was all of a piece the president has decided to close out this election season, not by bragging about the economy or low unemployment, but by demonizing undocumented immigrants and claiming they pose an existential threat to the United States of America, which they do not perhaps even more shocking than the White House misrepresenting what the the speech would be was this fifty three second piece of propaganda that the president tweeted yesterday pinning it to the top of his Twitter feed and features an undocumented immigrant who in April was sentenced to death for killing to California deputy sheriff's and the ad suggests that this cop killer is Representative of undocumented immigrants writ large, the clear message of the ad vote. For a democrat and Central American invaders will overrun the nation with violent criminals and cop killer. Lurs important. In fact, the undocumented immigrant came into the United States during the Bush administration, but forget the facts for a second Republican Senator Jeff flake tweeted, this is a sickening at Republicans everywhere should denounce it. But Republicans everywhere not so much on the denouncing so far only a handful of moderate Republicans. Many in swing districts have distanced themselves from the video Republican leaders on Capitol Hill and across the nation. Silence. Crickets, and the clear message from the president today was pretty stark. He suggested this caravan is full of Latin American men who pose a specific threat to American women. I don't want them in our country and women don't want them in our country. Women want security men don't want them in our country. But the women do not want them women want security. None of this. Of course is surprising that the president is ending the midterm campaign. The way he started his political career really peddling racially charged conspiracy theories, such as I don't know the first African American president was born in Africa, and is an other and not like the rest of us. A lot of people feel it wasn't a proper certificate about Obama was a US citizen. Born in Kansas. Natural born citizen. Who knows who knows? Let's who who cares right now. I hope he was born. Because if he wasn't it's the greatest scam in history political history in history. President Obama, of course was born in the United States. And, you know, don't forget that this was part of his first campaign speech. They're bringing drugs they bring in crime, their rapists. And some I assume are good people. Jeff Ellen is out front live in Columbia, Missouri. Where the president is going to be speaking shortly in Jaffa, President Trump, turning what was supposed to be a policy speech at the White House, essentially making a campaign speech with no actual policies specifics at all. Jake, usually, those type were usually that type of rhetoric comes here at a rally like this. You can see behind me thousands of people ports airports one pulling up here. But the president was doing stay in the Roosevelt room of the White House as you said the White House aides promised to policy there was none of that. But it is part of the daily plan to talk about the border to talk about a silent about sending thousands of troops to the border. It is all designed to really get checked a sense of urgency that the president clearly thinks is not there among his supporters in the last week or ten days or so there has been some concern in the White House and elsewhere that voters are not sufficiently fired up or Senate about these midterm elections for the president is trying to do what has worked for the work talk about all of these issues with urgency and here scaremongering tactics. Jake the difference now for those but she played four. This is the president of the United States doing it from the White House. That's why it was a bit more charge. Before. But I can tell you. I've been here for a few hours. Now, listen to Republican congressman after Republican Senator another's firing up the crowd dot name mentioned. It's you said about anything. They in fact, believe that this will be good particularly here in Missouri. Claire mccaskill democratic Senator is one of those Democrats in red state that is certainly in a tough race. So that is why this immigration rhetoric. At least the president is will be helpful question is will it be helpful in suburban tweet us rates in the house, almost surely will not be never mind, the pure politics at this the fact that he said divisions or being so now what does that mean long term here? The president certainly not picking that they are thinking about this midterm elections five as away, and I can promise you he'll say much of the same perhaps even more here tonight. Jake Jeff Zeleny and the dulcet tunes of guns and roses out front. Now Reverend Samuel Rodriguez. He's the president of the national Hispanic Christian leadership conference. He's an informal evangelical faith advisor. To President Trump. And of course, he led a prayer at President Trump's inauguration. Thanks so much for joining us tonight. I appreciate it. What do you make a President Trump's closing argument in which he seems to be focusing quite a bit on on documented immigrants? Well, a couple of points here. First, the clothing argument, in my opinion, should focus on the lowest unemployment rate into generation the best GDP we've had in years and the lowest Hispanic and African American unemployment rates ever. So I can't embrace or affirm the immigration add, by the way, the vast Jake divest majority of undocumented individuals in America and in all probability those in the caravan are good God. Fearing people looking for a better day. I am a Christian, first and foremost, I'm an American second and of Latino descent with that being said, I want you to hear me carefully. I want people coming here legally. Let me reiterate I want people come. Here legally not illegally and that doesn't make me a racist. And makes me an American. No, I believe we have the right to protect us. Our our nation at the same time Jake at the same time the majority of people in the caravan. These are not bad people. There are people by the way, according to Mexican embassador recently on NPR. There are people who are violent in the caravan. Yeah, there are. But I would argue the vast majority are good God fearing people looking for a better day. Yeah. So I mean, look, obviously countries have every right to have secure borders and control of the immigration flow and knows in their country and want everybody to be in their country. Legally. I I don't think anybody disagrees with that. My question is the president is not focusing on the great economy or the higher GDP or the low African American Latino unemployment numbers as you wish. He would he's talking about this instead, and there are a lot of people who say he is making nakedly racist. Appeals two people and causing people to fear undocumented immigrants. I don't think you're racist for wanting a wonder what you think about this message. Yeah. Well, I'm I'm a person of faith, Jake, so faith is the opposite of fear. Right. So as a person of faith, I repudiate fear not just coming from Republicans. But from Democrats across the board. I would I would people to see the image of God. And every single human being at the same time though at the same time as an American. I really do have great angst and consternation about thousands of individuals coming to our borders when we don't have the bandwidth or the bureaucratic wherewithal right now to handle these individuals who in all probability will not come into a legal port of entry. But may attempt to come in here illegally. Listen, there are legitimate asylum and refugee seekers amongst the thousands that are coming up. I want these people to come to a port of entry and apply legally and right now, it's all conflicted. It's all becoming chaotic now does the president have every right to send troops to protect the sovereignty of the nation. I would say yes, he has the right to protect and actually the responsibility. To protect our sovereignty at time. I not only I'm calling upon the White House congress, both Democrats and Republicans to tone down the rhetoric stop using immigrants, and please do not engage the Latino community in any way, former shape as a tool of political expediency. These are human beings created in the image of God. And we collectively both Republicans and Democrats we can do better. Or did you think when you saw that that ad featuring the Andaman on documented immigrant who who killed two deputy in California. Hey, Jake does not reflect the people in my shoes the people in my community at all whatsoever. I could show you the most beautiful god-fearing hard-working people people who I would love to come in here legally, by the way, legally legally again, but that that adds not reflect Latinos or the immigrant community at all not one. I own a reflective of the immigrant or the Latino community. So again, I understand is the midterms. I understand. And it's not I just can't my problem is if you want me just to say, President Trump is guilty of, you know, a fear for the purpose of I know you haven't asked me to, but but others have asked whether it's not just President Trump. It's both sides of the I I've looked at at across the board. And right now, it's a midterm of fear instead of a mid term of hope and faith. We can do a lot better. It's time for civility it's type reconciliation. It's type of a conversation where we can disagree without calling each other terms and words that do carry weight at the end of the day. What would you say to the president? If he if he asked you for advice on how to talk about this issue. Lowest unemployment rate in Hispanic American history. Put an ad on that create an ad on that, and that will engage Latinos to say, wait a second. Hold on a moment. Let's think about this lowest unemployment Latinos care about these two priorities the economy and education. That's according to research, by the way, the economy and education. And boy, I mean, there's a viable conversation to be had about the economic viability of the Hispanic American community. So that should be the ad it not the immigration had to just came out. But that ad that right there may prompt some Latinos to reconsider their vote come next week. All right. Thank you so much. Really? Appreciate your time out front next, President Trump on his relationship with the truth. I always want to tell the truth when I can I tell the truth. So why did he mislead the American people again, and again and again from the White House, plus a big development in the Russian investigation newly released emails between Steve Bannon and Roger stone talking about WikiLeaks just days before we leagues released a trove of hacked emails from the Clinton campaign and President Trump suggesting it's okay for US troops to open fire on migrants. If they're throwing rocks at them for US secretary of defense in Vietnam veteran, Chuck Hagel response stay with us. Support for out front comes from our friends at rocket mortgage by Quicken Loans. Let's talk about buying a home for a minute because of rising interest rates. There's a lot of unpredictability when it comes to buying a home these days, it's causing a lot of anxiety with folks. Well, our friends at Quicken Loans are doing something about that. They're calling the power buying process. Here's how it works. 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We saw it on full display at a White House event today one that was filled with also it's let's start here with what he said about asylum seekers not showing up for trial. It's like a level of three percent. They never show up for the trial. So by the time, the trial comes the gun. Nobody knows where the not true, according to pull it effect. Citing Justice department data from two thousand twelve to two thousand sixteen sixty to seventy five percent of ninety nine detained migrants showed up for their court appearance. And then there's this. We're putting up massive cities of tents. You have thousands of test. We have a lot of tents have a lot of every we're gonna hold them right there. Those tents must still be in the boxes because Pentagon official told us. There are no plans right now to build tents for migrants as of right now tents that are being built are being used to house customs and border patrol and military personnel, though. That's not all Trump said though, listen to this. Considering the laws are so bad. They're not archaic. They're incompetent shut that. They're old that just bad. And we can't get any democratic votes to change them. It's only the Republicans that are in unison. They want to change him. There are plenty of Democrats who want to change the immigration laws as long as it's part of a big package in two thousand thirteen fifty two Senate Democrats voted for comprehensive immigration Bill that included by the way, forty six billion dollars for border security, much more than President Trump is trying to get for his border wall. On the flip side, we should note that if Republicans were in your unison on this they could of course, do anything they wanted. They control the White House the house and the Senate they're not in unison. In fact, we saw that earlier this year there is an attempt to have an immigration Bill and a number of Republicans defected. This is all coming, of course, from man who just said this last night. I always want to tell the truth when I can I tell the truth. I mean, sometimes it turns out to be where something happens it's different or there's a change. But I always liked to be truthful out front now, April Ryan the White House. Correspondent for American urban radio networks. He's also the author of fire reporting from the frontlines of the Trump White House. We also have with us our friends, Scott Jennings. Former special assistant to President George W Bush and state Senator Nina Turner, a former democratic Ohio State Senator who I call Senator Turner, Scott let me start with you legal immigration without question is a legitimate issue. And it's a problem that needs solving your former boss, George W Bush tried to solve the problem. It didn't work out. Do you think that this path that President Trump is leading us down leads to a solution in any way? Well, I don't know because as you pointed out the Republicans have controlled all three legs of the stool, and they've not been able to come to an agreement on anything. And it's hard to imagine Democrats coming to an agreement on what? The president is laying out here on the other hand. There are some Democrats in this cycle who are running on immigration issues that sound a lot like Donald Trump. I see Senator Donlan Indiana running a lot of heads on building the wall, for instance. So so if if there were more Democrats like Don Lee navy, you do come up with some kind of a solution. I do think this the American people are sick and tired of this issue going unsolved. No matter who's in charge. And eventually they're going to start taking it out on people who can't seem to get the job done. So I've always said if the Republicans are ever to sign off on any kind of a comprehensive immigration reform plan. It will have to be the president that leads it. He's the only one that has enough credibility on the issue with the rank and file grassroots Republicans to sell it. Brought only an exit can go to China except on immigration reform Senator Turner, let me ask you. I want to turn to the president's propensity to not tell the truth. Do you think it matters? And we we know that his supporters believe most of what he says even over what the facts are. Does it matter that he keeps lying it shouldn't matter? But he knows that it animates his base, and he's going to continue to lie because it gives him the political points that he needs to win if the Overman over one majority of the American people are going to have to decide do they want a president. It's ironic that he would call, you know, Senator Ted Cruz lying Ted when really that is his nickname. The president has been live from the beginning continued to stoke this fear, and it is by the early important that he tells me he said he tries to tell the truth just tell the truth. Tell the truth April. Let me ask you the president told giancarl ABC news last night that that when he can he always wants to tell the truth. You heard Nina talk about that. So what's the problem? The problem is, and we say it over and over again and people have to realize that the White House is a place that is so serious worn peace life and death are written with a pen from the leader of the free world. We have the leader of the free world who also speaks life and death from that Oval Office or from wherever he is in the White House. It is utterly important for this president to get it, right and tell the truth and the issue is can you trust him? Now. You know, he tries to tell the truth where he can words mean something you can change markets, by the words of president of the United States. You can send people to war. With words words means something you can shift. I mean, just shift nations thoughts in processes just by words out of sixteen hundred Pennsylvania Avenue and telling the truth is something that a president needs to do. And if you can't trust them the question is will. You trust anything he says or does he's cried wolf too many times now and people just don't know if he's telling the truth, Scott. Well, I think Republicans trust them and Democrats don't and this is sort of a larger issue at the tribalism. We face dependence independence are starting to move away from him though. And that's the thing going into re-election. You know, whatever happens in the midterms is going to happen but going into a reelection campaign. He does have to have credibility with more than just the Republican party. He needs to catch her some percentage of Democrats, but a larger percentage of independence, and so hopefully, the president will pivot back towards that. As he heads to his own reelection campaign back to the truth. But, but I would just say politics is one thing. But where this really hits the road is if you had a national crisis, and when the president's speech, you need international in a constitutional. We ain't a constitutional crisis win a truth crisis. We're in a national security crisis. And when you say that Republicans believe him, I don't think so you had how. Speaker Ryan say that the president was wrong about ending the birthright issue, you also have people who are in the presence base. Oh, you know, they excuse it by saying, oh, you know, how he isn't what he meant people understand who Donald Trump is a democrat or Republican and many people have voted for him believing that he is not truthful. This is not a salesmanship you're not selling a car here. This is about life and death. What affects people's lives and leadership means service is he serving in truth or Z serving in a lie. That's the question. We're dealing with right now. Senator let me let me turn to something that democratic gubernatorial candidate Andrew gillum of Florida said after President Trump labeled him, a thief, a lot of Guillem supporters think that the president going at him that way has racial overtones. Take a listen. I have not called the president of racist. But there are racist and his sympathizers who believe that. He may be which is why they go to his aid. Which is why he has provided them cover, and I believe that his cover has led to much of the degradation in our political discourse. What do you think of that? I agree with the man. And the president knows exactly what he's doing when he calls a black man a thief. He's stirring, the call dron of doubt, the Caudron of stereotype that the cauldron of a double standard when you have a African American leader that you label in that way. He's doing this on purpose. He selecting these words on purpose. I wish he had the same level of emotion when it came to Dillon with some of the racial issues, we're dealing with. Whether it be what happen to our Jewish sisters and brothers, and Pittsburgh, you know, using that level of of of a better education to call in out that kind of stuff or what happened to the sister and the brother in in. Kentucky and Kentucky. He doesn't do that crow in that the hands a white man, but he always has a label for a black or Brown, man or woman. It is absolutely wrong. He knows what he's doing Scott. The president. I think he was talking to Christian broadcasting network weighed in on the label of racist. Take a listen. You know, the word rations is used about every Republican that's winning anytime. Republicans leading they take out the our word the racist word, and I'm not anti immigrant at all. This is a more complicated thing. Obviously there have been accusations of racism that have been unfair about about, you know, previous Republican candidates like Mitt Romney, or whatever. But. You know, I think that this is more complicated than that. When it comes to President, Trump, don't you? Well, I think that we need to have a sensitivity to these issues because we've had increasing racial tensions in this country for several years now, it's one of the most worrisome problems. I think we have in our civil society. So our leaders have a responsibility to take extra care and not inflame the issues that have plagued us, I will say. You know, as you pointed out, I've I've seen Republicans call this just as the president said, you know, Mitt Romney of all people was called a racist and the two thousand twelve presidential campaign. I remember Joe Biden telling African American voters he's gonna put y'all back in chains. I mean it was blatant race baiting. Then to call Mitt Romney that and I didn't think it was. Right. So I want the president to lead us on this because this has been going on for too long Sunday. Some political leader is going to lead us out of this into a better conversation. If it were Donald Trump that would be great. But I hope it somebody someday soon April I wanna play for you, what President Trump said to axios about his continued attacks on the media. Take a listen. Tens of thousands of people go into a stadium to listen to you. And then people go on social media, and they get themselves. So jazzed up there's gonna be a party. That's damning. I'm scared that someone is gonna take between only form of fighting back. I couldn't be here. If I did that you have the presidency, but I do this before. You cover the president every day. What's your reaction to that? It's the only form of fighting back by putting us in harm's way. Well. It's sad. If that's the only way he knows how to fight. When you are president of the United States, you use your big words, and you use your big bully pulpit to fight the good fight for people to call us. The enemy of the people is basically putting it is putting a target on that on our heads. And I am one of those who was targeted by the bomber. And it doesn't feel good. But what I will say is this president is warring on us. He should not be doing that. You know, he should use that word for the real enemy of the American public. Interrupt. People are not going to believe him you this. This is news to me. And I'm sorry. If you've already said this on CNN, and somehow I missed it. But you're one of the targets of the bomber. Yes. The FBI contacted you and said you're on his list. I'm not getting into anything. But I'll just say this look at the Twitter. Did you see it on Twitter? You even talked about it. Don lemon. So that's all I'm gonna say, I'm not going to go any further or the tweet tweet against you. And Don lemon. I saw that. Right. Yeah. Against you and lemon up next. But yes, I'm not going any further. We'll say to you is is this this is very serious there's collateral damage in the problem is the president wants to win. And I've said this before the way this president tries to unify his basis by finding a common enemy, and it's unfortunate that we the press are the common enemy to unify the base. But what I will tell you is this president wants a win regardless of who it hurts. He has this bulldozer. And if you're in the way, you will he doesn't care you will be road kill and he's going to keep on just for win. But there's collateral damage, and he's got to stop this because it doesn't just breed hate against us. But it breeds hate and other places as we have seen, and I don't wanna get any further. But I'm just. Gonna say this it is ugly. It is very ugly. Well, I'm sorry. You went through that thanks for being here. Appreciate it out front next significant developments in the Russian investigation. Some newly revealed emails show Roger stone and Steve Bannon talking about WikiLeaks just days before Wiki leaks released hacked emails from the Clinton campaign. Plus, President Trump standing by his call to send up to fifteen thousand US servicemembers to the US Mexico border. Is this really the best use of the US military? Former US secretary of defense. Chuck Hagel will be my guest. They with us. You know, what's not smart job sites that overwhelm you with tons of the wrong resumes. But you know, what is smart ZipRecruiter dot com slash out front. Unlike other job sites, ZipRecruiter doesn't wait for candidates to find you ZipRecruiter finds them for you. It's powerful matching. Technology scans thousands of resumes identifies people with the right skills education and experience for your job. And actively invites them to apply. So you get qualified candidates fast. No, more sorting through the wrong resumes. No more waiting for the right candidates to apply. 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Well, not yet Jake. But I'll tell you the bottom line here. Simply is that what this shows is that Robert Muller is still pursuing the collusion question, which is really what everybody wants to answer to. So we'll we'll we'll show you some of the emails that were published by the New York Times. I today. One of them comes from Tober fourth two thousand sixteen this is right after Julian Assange Wiki leaks, founder those video Lincoln, which he sort of a new. Leads to some coming emails Steve Bannon since an Email to Roger stone. And he says what was that this morning? Roger stone responds fear serious security concern. But the important part of this is he says how however a load every week going forward. That's again from from Roger stone to to Steve Bannon. And and abandoned response of didn't he cut a deal? He didn't cut a deal with the Clintons know, what these emails show, Jake is that Roger stone who is full of bluster and says a lot of things that seems to be all over the place. He was in touch with one of the top people in the campaign to see yo of the campaign at the time. If you remember, and so what this tells us is that the Muller investigators who have these emails and have been asking number of people about Roger stone's connections with the campaign. It tells us that they're still pursuing this question. And obviously, we know that Muller is not speaking right now because of the upcoming mid terms, but certainly after that. Everyone is expecting that. There is going to be some more action from Muller. Does that mean that Roger stone is next? We do not know Roger stone himself says that he believes Robert Muller is going to indict him. So we shall see. But, you know, at the the the bottom line here is that Muller is still pursuing the collusion questions certainly the idea of conspiracy. And Roger stone is the key to that Jake. All right. I remember as thanks so much up front now former counsel to the us assistant attorney general for national security, Kerry Cordeiro and former assistant US attorney for the southern district of New York. Harry Sandik carry I'll start with you. How significant is this? You have the Steve Bannon in at the time the chief executive of the Trump campaign emailing with Roger stone about what information Wiki leaks might have on Hillary Clinton. It's significant because it shows that Roger stone who may have been indirect contact with WikiLeaks. We don't know yet was indefinitely in contact with someone who was senior in the Trump campaign. So now, it's not just a question of Roger. Her stone perhaps being in touch with then candidate Trump or someone in the campaign. We know that he was my guess is that there's a lot more emails and other communications that the special counsels. Investigators have aside from just these that have been revealed publicly, so Harry, lemme ask you so if Steve Bannon is trying to find out from Roger stone what WikiLeaks is going to do and win. They're going to do it. Is there anybody is there a crime in there? Anyway, I mean, you have Bannon trying to find out what WikiLeaks is gonna do. You have stone communicating with WikiLeaks who. Assange and WikiLeaks did not steal the emails as far as we know. They may have gotten them from the Russians or whoever, but they didn't steal them. Where's the crime? Well, we we don't know exactly where the crime is yet one possible crime is that if this is being done by people overseas to provide a benefit for the campaign. It would be an essence and a legal campaign contribution. It is also possible that there is some sort of possession of stolen property theory that the government could be working on. It is also possible that there are obstructive crimes. We've seen reporting that you know, stone may have been in touch with credit co and other people trying to influence what they would say to the prosecutor. So you may have unrelated to the collusion angle you may have obstruction crimes as well. But it does seem that if there is a an instruction so to speak from. The from the campaign about how to use these emails, you're benefiting from an illegal contribution of sorts to the campaign. Kerry stone repeatedly made public statements that suggested he knew Assange had dirt on the Clintons. Here's the some of those instances starting with about August fourth thousand sixteen the same day. He emailed former Trump campaign aides Sam number and Clinton had dinner with Julian Assange. In all of the Clinton foundation scandals has been that we didn't do it has been. You have no proo. Yes. But you have no proof. Well, I think Julian Assange has that proof. And I think he's going to furnish it to the American people truly a song who say anything you want. Oh. Is going to continue to. Information on the American voters that are loyal this race. I actually have communicated with the sun, I believe the next fortunes documents pertain to the Clinton foundation. But there's no telling what the Tober surprise. Maybe now stone has since claimed that the dinner with Assange never happened. He's denied that he was in contact with WikiLeaks. And he said that his past comments were ingest or misunderstood or exaggerated. But you know, what he has said on multiple occasions is pretty damning well and being in touch with Julian Assange and WikiLeaks back then meant something different than it means now because now over the course of the last year with the Russia inquiry investigation and statements that secretary of excuse me, director CIA Pompeo when he was headed CIA has said is that WikiLeaks with connected to a hostile intelligence service rush. Right. So back when. Stone was saying these things publicly that wasn't known to the general public. But now having a connection actually haven't been in touch with them. If he was that means a whole different thing. The other thing I would add on the question of what potential laws might be violated, the special counsel theory of this entire case is conspiracy to broad the United States, all the other crimes are ancillary to that big theory, and the defrauding was Russia's intent to affect the election and affect democratic processes. That's what the special counsel has articulated in all the different indictments of the Russian intelligence officers and the internet research agency. So if stone was actually involved in facilitating the communication from the campaign or to the campaign from WikiLeaks. Then he would be part of that overall conspiracy. That's the question that we don't know because his credibility is in such question. And so we don't know publicly whether the statements he's made before are accurate or not Harry. Do you agree that as stone is most likely on the hook potentially for for? Part of a conspiracy. I it does seem that way. They keep bringing back in various people who had dealings with him to be reinterviewed or to appear in the grand jury. They're testing the public statements stone has made in stone has as far as we know is not been interviewed or brought to the grand jury, which is how you would treat the target of an investigation. All right. Great. Thank you so much to both of you. 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Plus is any offers prescription sunglasses at incredible prices. Visit Xeni today at Xeni dot com slash CNN. That's Z E N N, I dot com slash CNN. Tonight, the commander in chief saying that he wants US troops to fire their guns on any migrant who even throws a rocket them. Throwing rocks viciously and violently. You saw that three days ago, really hurting the military. We're not gonna put up with that. They wanna throw rocks at our military military fights back. We're going to consider it. I tell them considered a rifle when they throw rocks like they did at the Mexico military and police I say consider it a rifle. Out front tonight. The former US secretary of defense in the Obama administration. Former Republican Senator Chuck Hagel of Nebraska, Senator not only were you secretary of defense. But you carried a rifle in Vietnam as a soldier an infantryman. I believe what's your reaction. Well, my reaction in listening to that coming from the commander in chief of our forces, president United States is one of disgust. That's a one. Incitement of unnecessary violence. It's a distraction. It's a distortion. It is of rank political purpose to use our military like this and to say, those kinds of things is really astounding it not in my lifetime. I ever heard those kind of words from a president of the United States. The president says that he will be sending up to fifteen thousand US servicemembers to the border a lot of them. It looks like we're going to be acting in a in a support role and not necessarily standing point, or or, you know, operating a sniper's, but they will be there fifteen thousand fifteen thousand has I don't need to tell you that's more than the number of US servicemembers. We have currently in Afghanistan. And it's about three times as many US servicemembers. We have fighting ISIS in Iraq and Syria. What's your response? Well, this is folly this is political distraction. Of the highest magnitude. The fact is taking thousands of American troops who are trained and the cutting edge all the time and send them down to a border where there is no need. There's no threat to an invasion of the hordes coming in from Latin America, which is a joke, and they are of limited utility anyway, be because of the constitutional issues involved here as to what our active military, can and cannot do. And so it's clear to me that he's using our military in our troops. In in a very political way that it really casts a lot of questions about the competency of of his leadership, and as a former soldier someone fifty years ago today, Jake I was in Vietnam fifty years ago. I know the kind of sacrifices these men and women are involved with every day and their families and to use them as political pawns light this as a complete fabrication is really wrong. You you mentioned invading hordes. And that is certainly how President Trump is depicting the caravan and undocumented immigrants in his new web ad I want to show you just a clip of it features a Mexican man who had been deported and came into the country illegally. At least twice he returned to the US during the Bush administration ultimately killed two deputy sheriffs during the Obama administration. Here's a little clip. Democrats let them into our country. Democrats. Let them stay at cetera. I'm sure you've seen the clip. It's a it's rather incendiary. What did you think when you saw it? Well, it is in Cindy area. And it's for one purpose. And I it's it's a political purpose. I would suggest the president and the Republican congress that controls our government today, focus on immigration reform, we passed in the United States Senate in two thousand five and immigration reform Bill with both Democrats and Republicans and with the help of a Republican president President, George W Bush. In fact, we had him in Omaha to kick off his immigration reform Bill which was the responsible way to deal with these things not not sending troops to the border to fabricate some potential invasion. That's what the president should be doing. That's what leadership's about. That's what Republicans who control the congress. Should be doing. That's the way to fix some of these problems. Of course, you're going to secure your border. That's not. That's not a question. But let's be smart. Let's be real. And let's be honest. And I haven't seen much of that. Lastly, sir. You were Republican Senator you, obviously, you're pretty conservative. I remember when you were in the Senate, you actually were you would deviate from your party a bit when he came to US intervention abroad. You you you sometimes we're more skeptical of it than the average Republican Senator you obviously supported Barack Obama, ultimately and served it in his administration. What do you think of the Republican party today as somebody who was a Republican Senator? Well, first of all, I didn't take a position in two thousand eight in that president right? Ultimately, ultimately, I did he was president of states. And I thought he was responsible president doing a good job. But to your question. I cast my first vote fifty years ago on top of the tank in Vietnam, I voted for Richard Nixon. I voted for a straight Republican ticket. I am a Republican. I'm still a registered before I've never been anything butter Republican. But there is no Republican party today. The Republican party used to be a party that focused on fiscal responsibility. Free trade international engagement, competent, governments national security all the things that this party today is not focusing on national security. I'll give him that. But everything else it's just an amalgamation of special interests. I'm not sure the Democrats are in better shape. But it isn't the party that I that I I joined and I think it's it's pretty clear. The party leader today is the president and his states who's really never been a Republican. He's never had a political philosophy about anything. And he ran. On that campaign, by the way, that was his platform. 2016 elect me president I states because I know nothing about the job kind of a democrat. Ben Republican have been all over the place. So I believe that the Republican party will come back, and we'll be relevant again. And we'll start to have a philosophy about government. And especially the question, what is the role of government? The role of government is not to displace people or disobey this base any activity or effort to make a better world. But but the us government for the right reasons and be smart about it. We're not doing that today. We'll come back Senator Chuck Hagel. Always good to see you Jake. Thanks so much. Thanks tonight. A neck and neck. Tonight on neck and neck Senate race that should have been a slam dunk for the Republicans. We're talking about the Senate race in Tennessee congresswoman, Marsha Blackburn, right now only holding a four point lead over former democratic governor Phil Bredesen's Trump won Tennessee with sixty one percent of the vote. So she had the Republican party be worried. Martin savage has this race of the day. Even as the new CNN poll shows is slight Republican lead with less than a week to go. Tennessee Senate race is still remarkably close, Phil Bredesen's Elliott. But how is it democrat managed to be so competitive in such a conservative state where President Trump won sixty percent of the vote. Phil Bredesen's, not your typical democrat widely known and popular as mayor of Nashville. He's credited with bringing professional sports teams to town to term governor he sent national guard troops to the border with Mexico. St-? Nobody's going to tell me how to vote. He's rejected national democratic leadership says he agrees with President Trump at some things and pledges to do what's best for Tennessee. Not the Democratic Party. I think if you ask people for characteristics about me, they'll say moderate, but they'll also say he gets things done. And that's that's what's really letting be be competitive in a state. Likeness. His centrist message history. What should have been an easy victory for Republican, Marsha Blackburn into a struggle Blackburn's of fiery conservative who has served in congress since two thousand three and she's not as popular as Bredesen's. But no someone who is. Blackburn's? Staunch Trump supporter presidents twice come to Tennessee to campaign on her behalf and he'll be back this weekend. Blackbirds campaign has largely adopted the Trump playbook Jones through this week the president railed against the caravan of Central American migrants headed for the US Blackburn. Put the issue front and center eater own camping gang members known criminals people from the Middle East, possibly even terrorists. We reach out multiple times to the Blackburn campaign for an interview. But never got a response. Some political watchers suggested blackbirds is relying too heavily on Trump voters to Trump is still very popular in this state. But I'm not sure that it's a a good assumption that a retrial voter is a very conservative or even Republican voter being to Trump could turn off independence and moderate Republicans voters Blackburn still needs weep on several Republicans who say they voted for Bredesen's. The policy issues that I am interested in and much more lines with my beliefs, and I don't see that from the other candidates. He's an unabashed moderate centrist right down the middle. He said appeal to you, you better days, we need more. David blue was a pharmacist as well as a Republican or this was an extremely difficult decision for me to make. He's Trump's economy at worries about losing control of the Senate. He just couldn't vote democrat. It's an extremely close race. I believe in the end Blackburn. We'll we'll take this race. That's my my gut feel on it. Anyway, ultimately for Tennessee builders in today's polarized political climate how they vote may hinge on what matters more the chance for moderation or party loyalty. Jake early building came to an end in Tennessee just a very short while ago. And no surprise here. They didn't just break records, they crush them. And of course, there is still election day to come many believe either candidate could easily still with Jake. All right. Martin savage in Tennessee for us. Thanks so much coming up next the little girl who loved Michelle Obama's portrait so much she decided to copy it. Hey, it's Howard Beck. And I've got Shaun Livingston on reports the full forty eight how many teams have gone final four straight times. One three of them. 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21 - Best of Bernie: Winning the Class War | Green New Deal | Justice for All

Hear the Bern

36:24 min | 1 year ago

21 - Best of Bernie: Winning the Class War | Green New Deal | Justice for All

"<music> so much going the lanes <music> <music> hi everyone i'm brianna here. I wanted to let you know that worse which and things up a bit with our release schedule said of our traditional episode this week or we're releasing some of bernie's greatest hits molasses few weeks which have seen bernie introduced plan after plan of the most ambitious progressive and desperately. We needed policies in the history of presidential politics. We've seen bernie's green new deal for combating the climate crisis an existential threat all life on on this planet that the ongoing burning of amazon will only exacerbate. We've seen bernie's workplace democracy plan which would double union membership and after forty years years of ruining conditions and rights put the government back in the ring on behalf of workers and we've seen bernie's criminal justice plan dubbed justice and safety overall which among many other things with end cash bail legalize marijuana ban private for profit prisons and make it easier to prosecute abuses abuses by the police also including some truly compelling stories that supporter shared at town halls and rallies wilbur releasing episodes like this every other week alternating with our traditional episodes. I hope this gives you a taste of what it's like to tag. Along as bernie criss crosses this country and continues continues to change the terms of the debate and of course be sure to tune in next week for our full episode exploring burnings criminal justice plan which like so so many of the campaigns ideas would be a game changer. We have just introduced but strongest august pro union platform in the has three of american politics and the reason that we have introduced that very strong pro union platform is that for forty five years that has been a war in this country waged by the corporate elite against the working class of america and the truth of the matter not talked about in congress not talked about in the media is that as a result of that war against the working class by the corporate elite. What we have seen is the decimation of working families all across this country while the wealthiest wealthiest people and large corporations have done phenomenally welp now if they is going to be class warfare in this country. It's time that the working class of this country won that war and not just the corporate elite what you know and what i know. Is that the only way we rebuild the crumbling middle class. The only way we provide dignity and security for tens of millions of workers is when we rebuild the trade union movement in in this country bernie understand but there is a direct correlation between low levels of union participation in in this country and high inequality union members earn on average one percent more than nonunion employees and not union premium is even higher for women and people of color unionized workers enjoyed better benefits and they have more power to push back at their being mistreated by their employer. That's why union membership is just about economic right. It's a civil rights issue. Four about reason bernie sanders has introduced the workplace democracy with this plan. We are going to double union membership. How well for one he's streamlining the process says of joining a union under bernie's plan. If fifty percent of the workplace plus one signs a union authorization card you get a union. It's just a one step process moreover. The workplace democracy act gets rid of the incentive for employers to stop unions a full ninety two percent of private sector actor employers force workers to attend closed door meetings to hear anti union propaganda eighty percent require supervisors to attend training sessions on attacking unions a worker who starts to try to organize their coworkers has a one in five chance of being fired. All of this is illegal goal but it happens because employers don't wanna be at a competitive disadvantage compared to others in their sector who are paying their non unionized workers lower salaries salaries and fewer benefits but bernie's plan gets around all that by proposing a system whereby workers organized by industry or sector not firm by firm this way one restaurant chain or steel company or clothing franchised won't be competing against others. This is how it's done. In many european countries there is significantly higher union membership and yes higher equality in the workplace democracy act means that your employer will have to show just 'cause like actual misconduct to fire you. This will help protect us against discrimination due to age race gender sexual orientation or physical ability and under a bernie sanders presidency. If your company has bought by another the new company will have to honor the union agreement you worked hard to secure and if you've listened to episode so ten here the burn on which we discuss unions you know this is a big big deal huge next up up we hear from julia who told bernie at a town hall and vista california but she has to work forty to fifty hours a week while attending school just to to make ends meet and even then she sometimes overdrawn account good afternoon. I am a college student and and to me a low wage means. I have to work forty plus hours sometimes fifty in order to make ends meet and sometimes even even then i can really afford to pay on my expenses. Medical bills helped my mom out with the living wages. We live in a two bedroom but i mean gene with four of us and sometimes we can barely make ends me. I have to overdraft my bank. Account at some points joe's to pay my bills on time. If that is even the scenario you going to school no yes i did. I hear you correctly say that. You're working forty hours a week. While you're going to school. Yes well let me your first name. Is julia julia. Julia stay that you are. Julia touches on an issue. We don't talk enough about we say we want. Our young people like julia to get the best education they can. I don't know and julia you'll tell me. How do you do your studies. If you're working forty hours a week the brigham money your family needs an impact your ability to learn yes. It does a lot. I sleep three two hours. Sometimes i have to drive my whole family around into their jobs and my job and school and sometimes like they're either you sleep or you don't sleep. It's just one of those things that ah become accustomed to and it. It's painful because i work hard so my step. Please don't have to put in much work themselves so they don't have to suffer for what i'm going through right now. Okay thank you so much. Everybody heard what julia sick so young woman. Who's trying to do the right thing. She's going to school while she's going to school. She's working forty forty hours a week. I think that in the wealthiest country on earth when our kids go to school they should be able to focus on their studies ladies and not have to work forty hours a week green new deal platform form grunts to fourteen thousand words or so so i thought it might just pop in here to explain what it would do. In very broad strokes i and and crucially bernie's plan takes twenty thirty deadline set by the i._p._c. seriously last october the u._n. Intercontinental until panel on climate change issued a report saying that if we are to have a shot at limiting the already sweeping effects of climate change action on the scale and timeframe of bernie's plan is absolutely necessary. Remember that whenever you hear critics argue that bernie's plan is too expensive too ambitious or too unrealistic unrealistic. What exactly is there alternative. A carbon tax sure that might work if it were nine hundred ninety bernie's ernest plan would transform the united states energy grid and busting billions in transitioning to one hundred percent sustainable energy retrofitting old buildings things modernizing grid infrastructure and strictly regulating greenhouse gases the plan also calls for fully electrifying and decarbonising our transportation shouldn't sector transforming those two sectors energy and transportation would on their own reduce u._s. emissions by seventy one percent. What's more brennan's. Plan recognizes that this crisis is global and provides two hundred billion dollars to help other countries reduce their emissions all of this will be paid for by selling energy on the open market taxing the new green jobs that the plan would create and reducing military expenditures on for example protecting oil shipping lanes as brennan mentioned when he introduced the plan in paradise california site of the devastating twenty eighteen eighteen campfire not shy away from confronting the forces that got us in this mess in the first place this again is it's not a radical but i think we have got to think of these things we are in and i mean that i mean that very seriously that in this moment of global crisis we have got to rethink the way we have looked at the world. That's where we're at. We are fine going to end the fossil fuel industries legal community now. What does that mean. This is an important dish. Look everybody makes mistakes everybody in this room. Thomas made a mistake. Every doctor has made a mistake every engineer. Even politicians occasionally make mistakes but what we have got to look at somebody produces a product and it turns out to be humble. Oh my god we didn't know that that is one thing and that happens all the time but when somebody produces uses a product which they knowingly on the stand to be harmful that is a different situation today. Just one hundred companies have been the source of more than seventy percent percent of the world's greenhouse gas emissions in the last three decades one hundred companies. They have been permitted to walk away from the spills. They're abandoned. Wells and other environmental disasters documents have emerged as many of you know in court what cases show that the top fossil fuel executives have known for decades that their products were destroying join the planet and they buried those documents in order to continue making as much money as possible <music> so there is a difference between ignorance just not knowing and suppressing the truth make no mistake about it what the executives of exxon mobil and other fossil fuel executives doing is exactly what the tobacco industry did when it lied about the health risks associated with smoking conduct that led to federal racketeering convictions when i am president i will appoint an attorney general who will finally hold the executives at the fossil fuel industry accountable whether criminal behavior her though we will eliminate all of the fossil fuel industries packs breaks of which there are many last year if you can believe it as a result of trump's tax giveaway to the rich not only twenty four fossil fuel companies throughout the country paying nothing taking in federal income taxes. They actually received a two billion dollar tax refund from the i._r._s. After making thirty thirty eight billion in profits so take a step back. Take a step back about it. He wasn't industry which every three day is helping to destroy our planet. You got many of them not only paying nothing in federal income tax. They are received leave a two billion dollar tax refund from the i._r._s. So we say to the fossil fuel industry we will end those tax giveaways and substantially raise taxes on the companies that are creating the climate crisis furthermore we we will use that revenue the make massive investments in renewable energy energy efficiency and sustainable energy and by the way when we do that we are not just going to meet the recommendations of climate scientists scientist by moving to one hundred percent renewable energy for electricity and transportation by twenty thirty and decarbonising our economy by twenty fifty. We are also going to create some twenty million new good paying jobs. One part of the plan that i find fascinating which which is about how power is generated. You didn't distributed you talk about public. There's some federal public administration in power in this country based on the tennessee valley authority and others you propose essentially a federal takeover over the whole thing that essentially tennessee valley authority extension for the whole country right and my understanding is the ballpark. That's right look. The t._v. has done a lot of good work. It produces electricity from hydropower and other sources what we need to do is have an aggressive federal government and saying that we are going to produce a massive amount of electricity from solo and from wind and from other sustainable and juice and we will sell it out and by the way we're gonna make money doing that but you can't nibble around the edges anymore. We need to transform our energy system that needs a massive increase in sustainable energy. Let's just interrupt chris's interview with bernie to explain what the tennessee valley authority is. The t._v. was created in nineteen thirty three as part of f._d._r.'s new deal to provide both power and poverty reduction to the tennessee valley one of the region's worst hit by the great depression the t. v. dave remains of federally owned corporation that provides power to some ten million people across seven states a mix of nuclear coal natural gas hydro wind wind and solar the cool thing about the t._v. Is that it's completely sell funding and continues to invest heavily in the tennessee valley region so when chris draws comparison yeah. It's like that and it's awesome so i think people that watch a program not not exactly deficit hawk. I'm not you know. I think the the america's a very wealthy country it can afford a lot of big investments but this is really large. I mean there's a lot of money. We're talking about him. He's talking about in the plan replacing every old diesel school bus which which is a really good idea from a climate perspective replacing old mobile homes in the country. It's big and comprehensive when people say you. How do you pay for it. Is this thing that america can afford. You say what well the first thing is. We cannot afford it. I mean we all playing for the future of the planet so we have got to do it and second of all we pay for this in a number of ways and one of the ways we pay for years as you have just described a massive federal project that produces sustainable leonard is gonna make money as well furthermore we do away with the tax breaks and subsidies that the fossil fuel industry now receives which in fact is massive. I've thirdly we create twenty million new jobs as we transform our energy system and improve our infrastructure and those are going to be good paying union jobs lobs and those folks are going to be paying taxes fourthly for a variety of reasons. We've cut military spending fifthly do away with trump's huge tax breaks for the rich rich and six. We have a progressive tax them which the man's large corporations and the rich stop paying their fair share of taxes so on the on the job that twenty million dollars twenty million in job number jumped out at me and at first i thought well this is implausible just even within the plant but the plan when you're talking about replacing every diesel school bus in america which is what the plan calls for a lot of jobs. What is your to me. There's there's a mismatch between the promises and the reality that that makes these things hard right their coworkers right now out of work in wyoming their co workers <music> who are stationed. I think in harlan county kentucky not getting that ryan chin's not letting those that call move because they've been screwed time and time again. What do you say to them what they say why. Why should i believe that the promise you're making could be a reality but one of the things that we do and we put many many tens of billions of dollars into a just transition program which says those coal miners and the men and women work on the oil rigs. You are not our enemy. You're working to feed your family. I am perhaps the strongest pro union pro work member of the congress those people and not my enemy. What is my enemy is climate change and we have the very very strong approach to make sure that those workers get trained for new jobs. They get the healthcare that they need to get the educational opportunities that they need but the bottom line of all of this chris is either we believe in what the scientists are telling us all we do not and if we believe what they are telling us is that we got fewer than twelve years in order to transform our energy system or else there will be irreparable damage on our country country in the planet well. If that is the reality. I happen to believe the scientists that we have to act comprehensively last point that i wanna make on this chris. This is not just an american initial. What is so very dangerous about. Trump is that we need a president who is leading the world. That's hot that is really hot. If if you think what i'm talking about for our country is difficult. Try getting rusher in china in india all these other countries about what i have been saying and. I know that this is not going to happen tomorrow but maybe just maybe in the midst of this crisis. Maybe the countries of the world wake up and understand that instead of spending a trillion and a half dollars every year on weapons of destruction designed to kill each other. Maybe we pool our resources together and we come out common enemy which is climate change. They wanted the american province. I think talk to you. Thank you don't watch drake you around <music> blinding faustina turner tampa cisco last week or climate activist but from the sun rise movement lobbied the d._n._c. to host the climate themed debate senator turner stood with protesters protesters and solidarity rally mammoths few else on earth can unfortunately they were unable to convince the d._n._c. which voted down the climate being bean seventeen to eight but undoubtedly they will hurt at an affordable housing town on hall in northridge california. One woman made her voice heard when she told bernie her story of being foreclosed upon after missing just one payment on a second mortgage. My husband worked for a defense contractor i._t. For almost twenty years a month shy of twenty years a management person lost three hundred million. They proceeded to lay off three thousand workers. Mostly older workers and my husband lost his job then he became disabled. We have been in the disability process for two years. We are a week away from losing our home to auction. Sorry i have an m._b._a. Working on my ph t i just got a minimum wage job at ralph. L. state the gods to at least a little money. I can't get a job because of my age. I'm fifty nine. We we need to address that also. I don't know how many people know this could most your renters. We were in control for eighteen years until we saved up to buy a second mortgage can get foreclosed on in the state of california. You can miss one payment of a nine hundred dollar second mortgage and have your house sold out from underneath you. This is criminal. It should not be allowed. This is sure the disability system. You spend forty years paying into it. You shouldn't have to be begging to get help from it. The imbecile who is sitting in the seat right now wants to cut benefits for snap for people like us who are struggling who worked hard all our lives and there is no american dream. There is only in american dream for the oligarchy for the wealthy and the people who have established this income inequality. How many yachts do you need. How many homes do you need. It needs to trickle down <music>. Did you know that in two thousand fifteen donald trump very nearly played the president and third shark nato movie true story he dropped out to run for real life president and we all know how that went now this broke into the news again lately when it was reported that trump had raised the idea of nuking hurricanes to prevent them from hitting the u._s. and idea that bore an irresistible to the plot of shark nato one one somehow and i don't know how this is possible. It feels like trump is ramping up his well trump innis to a whole new levels last week he called himself the chosen one and quoted someone describing him as king of israel he he also suggested that american jews who vote for democrats are quote disloyal to israel bernie and surprisingly heads him worse for that. I think any jewish people that vote for a democrat. I think it shows either a total lack of knowledge or greatest loyalty. If you are jewish i got to be a loyal american. You're going to vote for donald trump and republicans well. Let me say this to the president president. I am a proud jewish person. Uh i have no concerns about voting democratic and in fact i intend to vote for jewish bad to become the next president of the united states and earlier this month bernie sat down with philip avenue co-founder of the dream defenders along with a group of young people in miami for an in depth conversation about student that health care and criminal justice reform be sure to check out the video. We made the discussion on youtube just search for bernie lesson for this episode though we wanted to include a longer portion of conversation about criminal justice which as you'll hear intimately affected the lives of everyone present its meetings like this one that informed bernese justice and safety for all plan which would do things like legalize marijuana. You have the prison population into the federal death penalty and make it easier to prosecute police misconduct. We live in florida. Hundred percent of our juvenile facilities are private right. One of the largest prison corporations in the world. Geo group is headquartered here. South florida's a few miles away criminal justice says something in florida that we face every single day so what are your thoughts. Miami has one of the biggest joe systems in the country. I have four cousins that i grew up with incarcerated. I rated one for twenty years or three years. Offer seven years one guy sentenced three weeks ago for eight years after already doing nine years in prison so oh this affects my life every day me in all of my friends. It's probably out of ten of us only to have never received an arrest or any charge yes misdemeanors including a misdemeanor we chart on spring break that calls that misdemeanor charge costs three thousand seven hundred and fifty dollars to become a teacher. I had to pay the florida department of education or fee every month for drug testing at the pay a a fee for substance abuse counselor for misdemeanor of marijuana so i was on probation for two years to get my full of teaches ages two certificate in the state of florida for misdemeanor. We charge in college. I was a high school teacher in inner city detroit and from my classroom to you juvenile delinquent facilities or out send facilities. It was a revolving door. I had a student walked into my class february. The school year starts in august and he said he'd it just gotten out of prison. He was in jail because he held up a convenience store because he was so hungry. He had siblings at home and they he didn't have food and all he wanted was a bag of chips and he hasn't he caught sent to prison for that. All these stories go to show that our justice system is broken and it is against black and brown folks and personally i've had misdemeanors with marijuana and about friends all these kinds of misdemeanors and that doesn't just affect your life but affects you trying to get an education you try and get a job for me. Personally air was affecting my scholarship. I had to go to concerts and speak to people f._s._u. And and basically explained to them the situation explain to them what happened and it was mostly cops in tallahassee targeting a certain during certain area that they would think that there is going to be more a certain demographic that they could basically take to jail or right up or give those those tickets tickets to and it stays on your on your record permanently have a lot of brothers and sisters. I have about ten in from my dad and then half-brother on my mother's side and he's the only one that hasn't been in prison. All of my brothers including my father had been in prison throughout my life this past year. I think it was really the first time that i started thinking about like who my dad could be if he never been through the system and the things that he could do like he's such a smart man and driven and dedicated but he cannot participate in our democracy because he can't vote. He's not able to get a job and it's just so sad. 'cause i know i cannot i can even fathom the things that he we've been through by being through the system and how much it has put him down and broken him. It's so scary because now every time folk share their stories not hear this i think about my nephew who is in middle school in palm beach right now and he's not the best behavior he's very hyper and very active he's very sweet and so loving and i know that this it was not built to have patients for him or to have care enough for him to not be a part of the school to prison pipeline and he's the reason why i do because it's just so i'm just so scared honestly honestly about him going through that system what is going to do to him. You know it is just amazing. We got the seven people in and every one of you has been personally family impacted by this big tottenham. Your families have been devastated by under criminal justice system. I mean visits the dominance simple question. What do we do. I mean what is the president into the united states. What do you do to prevent so many people within black men from spending much of their lives behind boss. What would you device them. Start bidding alternatives so we have less police on the street meaning funding actual education in the schools will black and brown students giving programs that are like art music sports and political education so that they could one day build the road to leading goes down prison doors and making sure police are on the street. The person i was arrested does eleven and then i was seven times more and i'm twenty three adding police not be able to do that not happy able the i see someone on news shot was down the street from my house so that on us in the day. The officers shot the man enough mattamy when he does lay. Hey donna back. I seen all those police officers. I was like oh they shot somebody. I know three thousand percent that they shot somebody because they would have all those police officers there. If anybody body was shot so good these police opt out of neighborhoods to not do those things shouldn't be in jail for any marijuana offense especially if you sell it freely really from florida to california almost start with. I think increasing minimum wage so that families can actually afford to survive. I read somewhere that if minimum wage had increased with the cost of living it'd be twenty two dollars an hour. I talk about these issues everyday but i don't talk about them in anywhere near doc as powerfully as you guys do because in many ways you're living leaves issues intellectual exercises slam obstruct struct idea just seeing the stuff that <hes> we changed the country when people begin talking about the reality of their lives and not being ashamed to do it. A lot of people talk about this all right but would you have to understand every person here. There are millions out. They were experiencing exactly thank you guys have talked about and they have to know that they're not alone that they're not the only person who has brothers and sisters who are and shall not the only person who can't afford healthcare not the only person in student debt. Not the only person may be sleeping on the streets and what people begin to talk better than they ask the question why. Why does anybody funny. He thinks it makes sense to give tax breaks to billionaires and cut funding education or after school programs. Nobody very few people so the more we talk about it and we find out that most people actually are in agreement. They want good educational system healthcare. They want to breathe clean air but the people who have the power and over the wall street or the insurance companies the fossil fuel industry. Thank different agenda. I don't stay up nights worrying about anybody. Did you worry about what their bottom line is. How much they're gonna make a profit next the only way we take them on as millions of people stand up by the history of change in america uh so you guys are part of that you really each and every one of you a part of that effort to educate and organize people and make the change that this country desperately needs so i thank you don't thank you very much organized. Let's go. That's it for this week. Let us know what you think. Adhere the burn at bernie sanders anders dot com or sinister tweet with the hash tag here burn. If you haven't already please take a moment to rate review or like us on apple podcast soundcloud or wherever you're listening transcripts will be up soon till next time <music> <music>.

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Nina Turner on Campaigning for Bernie, MLK, and Why Class Matters, Plus a Discussion on Iran

Useful Idiots with Matt Taibbi and Katie Halper

1:34:41 hr | 10 months ago

Nina Turner on Campaigning for Bernie, MLK, and Why Class Matters, Plus a Discussion on Iran

"Welcome it's welcome teeth. Let's happy New Year. I'm kind of sad to see you because I had kind of a great vacation. I mean I'm I'm always Atacis you but now that you said it out loud. I feel and liberated because I can say that. Yeah I'm just kidding. It's great to be back. It's great to be back. High Five wasn't even awkward and it wasn't so you have a good Christmas Christmas tree. jus De Yeah I did. I had a great one spend time with friends and family. Some wearing of Santa hats. Did the photo. Yeah you did. Well Santa Home so yeah well we centralize Santa Role so all all of us wear Santa's anywhere we have a great show we got Senator Turner coming on Senator Nina Turner coming on Nina Turner. A lot of content. I went out to New Hampshire Hampshire ran into some Some friends of show and the campaign trail rant Andrew Yang Another surprise campaign figure. I've got some photos from there Talk Tulsi Gabbard. Some other folks so I was really interesting and we've got obviously the big week in the news but we'll get to that. Yeah we start with the four food groups we should we should. Let's start with the good old Republican sack group so we have a classic Republican. I'm always always happy. When this guy comes around Ari Fleischer Lavori fluids honestly looks like so anxious looking? He's not a great use of the word. One of the most unctuous. He's still on his name. Should be Ari Fleischer before I explain why he should be living underground and afraid to ever show his face. Oh we'll get to. Let's just take look at what he had to say about the assassination of Sulamani. I just remember when Obama bin Laden was killed all Americans came together and cheer that event. Where the the military was able to carry that action out and I hope the same thing happens here with the death Salamone he is the world's leading terrorist. He's been active in with Hezbollah with Moss within Yemen. And it's called pointed out. He has blood on his hands from the killing of more than six hundred Americans in Iraq. The other really important thing. They'll jason to keep your eye on terms terms of what comes next or the streets of Iran you know the Iranian people have been leading a revolution of rebellion against their government. no-one dictatorship it is is one of the youngest. I guess most pro-western people throughout the Middle East Persian community in Iran. And I am very curious to see if they're going to celebrate this as well because you know many of those protests have said end the Iranian aggression and other nations stop spending our Iranian money on these wars abroad supporting other supporting terrorists. So I think it is entirely possible that this is going to be a catalyst inside Iran. Were the people celebrate this killing on the money and puts pressure on the Iranian government. The Stop it's terrorism to stop supporting all the various terrorist movements that has around the world great and itself. Well this is a flashback. To the Bush years remember they will be welcomed as liberators going. Yeah him so right so he's on message right now. A couple of points one is I liked you notice. He says Iranian people will he. He almost says regime because he's just used to saying that used to vilifying countries by calling the government's regimes which is something that like. US The US. Does they call the countries that they don't like they call their governments regime and he also I mean the fact that this guy after selling the war in Iraq has has any credibility whatsoever is just disgusting and I think there's no question. The Iraqi people want to have a better way of life and they would welcome a change in their own country and and I think that that's the context in which there should be considered. What differentiates him from anyone else? Well I'll tell you what differentiates him. We're GONNA get to that in a second another. The other thing I want to point out is that it's interesting. His critique he basically says that Iranians don't want their government to be funding like fighting wars abroad and supporting according terrorists abroad. which is exactly what the US did? Roy is help. So it's funny to hear and make kind of anti-imperialist argument that of course he doesn't apply to the United States. Yeah and he also makes an amazing anti prediction because the turns out there were lots of people on the streets in Iran. After this but they came out for another purpose entirely little you you ask. What makes them different from others as we ask on Passover what makes tonight different from every other night? So what makes Ari Fleischer Different from Edney. Every other lying neo-con after September eleventh. Haven't been hit once hackel. We take chances. Saddam might not strike again after September eleventh. Having been hit once how could we take the chance that Saddam might not strike again clearly. Due to the first time this is in two thousand nine that he said this and of course Chris Matthews in his genius who he's trying to take on Toronto Ari Fleischer. He told me Mrs this point road like that's such a matthews move. He's fighting with him and he totally misses the fact that he just claimed that Saddam Hussein was behind nine eleven because Matthews is GonNa Matthews. That was years after Bush had already admitted that this wasn't controversial. Bush had publicly said Saddam. Hussein had nothing to do with nine eleven eleven so that's our shitting grin provider. And of course he's totally wrong and he should be living underground and he's like a pathway. I mean he's his lies. Are that that much worse. Like it takes a lot to stand out as a neo. Con Bushy Liar. What is it that all the Republicans? It's almost always some kind of nostalgic for the Bush assures look we're having trouble connecting with modern era sucking y. You know a part of it is is that if you watch. MSNBC IT's nonstop stop Bush's right. That's true that they have like a Rehab Program Reintegration Program for Republicans were they get to work for MSNBC OR APPEAR ON MSNBC. It's just the joke. I mean. This guy was totally wrong about Iraq and now he wants us to believe that he's going to be right about Iran to be fair. He is a good predictor. If you just take the opposite of what he says so he says like Iraq was it's GonNa be a cakewalk. Wasn't and now. He's saying that Iranians are going to be happy about the assassination of one of their most beloved figures and guess what he's wrong. Yeah no that's the delusion. Allusion on that score is is is pretty high and It's interesting because the there were protests in the streets After after the this event and I heard today from analysis zero reporter announced that it was Over million people it was in the millions of people who came out which is entering? You can't see that cited in any Americans report you might see a little bit referenced in like AFP or Aljazeera. But it's not now now. I think they actually similar to the Iraq thing. They actually believed a little bit. Yeah the rate that they would go. I see that's it's always that we have to have a segment called ignorant or disingenuous is both. There's a little bit of the trump really. I don't think they understood. Like who this sky was and how beloved he was and the fact that this was a great move in terms of unifying Orion sentiment against the United States. I mean really brought people together this guy was incredibly loved beloved. He's considered like one of the major reasons that Isis hasn't succeeded in Iran. And I'm just going to say this ready. Okay isn't that let's have a thing called call. Isn't that controversial okay. Handsome Guy Variants. no-one said that not Fleischer Sulejmani. Are there any other authoritarian figures. You find handsome this this we have to leave on the cutting room floor. But I'm gonNA say something okay. The following person. He's not handsome now but I like him. I love that Guy Suites. In fact I was looking for his tweets. I don't know if he's been tweeting. He wasn't right when it happened right when the assassination had been watching the NFL player. Like Fred Hampton documentaries. Hoping look those This guy isn't handsome but he has nice is okay. WHO's an awful person who has nice? Is someone who Osama bin Laden Osama bin long as nice person. I is told to Nova works. Was He new year's Eve looks really disturbing. We couldn't play Basketball Mongolia. You know how they say that if Hitler had been in an artist maybe no holocaust while if Osama bin Laden had been a basketball player in Mongolia maybe nine eleven could have been everything could have been different Democrats. I just it's going to be Biden's basically every week until he's out of the race so I feel bad but he he just had a bunch of money to be fair. That's true but he had a bunch given in the last week or so. I was out in the trail and I saw a couple of. I didn't see him but his reflection was everywhere because other candidates were talking about stuff that he said he made a context mistake where he basically said our. Our culture is European which got a miss understood by everybody he was actually talking about our system of law and how it it actually. What what he was saying is I? It actually works against women As he was actually thanking woke but it but it turned into it turned into a thing where he was criticized where accused praising colonialism that sounded like Trumpian thing but that was so bad. What but but in Derry New Hampshire? He was telling people basically that You know if you don't have a job or if you're having trouble just into the economy like deal with it. And he said basically coal miners need to learn how to code and Anybody if you can throw coal into a furnace earners you can learn to program. For God's sake he loves those he's always got the exclusive for the love of God. Anybody who can go down three thousand feet in a mine can sure as hell learn to program as well anybody who can throw coal into a furnace can learn how to program. For God's sake I like we should make a movie called the coal call coders daughter coders. I like it I like it but this is this classic. It's just because it's kind of typical GEICO. Also post deal see Arab Democrats where the original bargain NAFTA was. Things are going to suck for a while. So we're going I retrain you to for better work because the job you had probably isn't going to exist anymore. But then they really didn't do that and now like twenty. Yeah exactly so Yang Zhang. Actually I saw him in in concord and but the night before he had been in Keene New Hampshire and he he basically ripped Biden and he said this kind of work that they actually want to do instead of saying to group of people that you always doubt about. Don't I don't WanNA learn to code. This is a little off message for Biden because I feel like Biden like lane I was gonNA say stick Biden. mclane is kind of like not is hiding his deal see issues like he's the middle class he gets it you know. He doesn't like coating Joe. Joe Oh yeah. This is funny for him to do but the again the thing. That's great about Biden is he. Has He has a style but not the Khan. He's not limited by content. Let's say just sit around and wait. He'll eventually make the mistake. You're guessing that you will soon so that happened. That was Democrats select. So what we have for. Isn't that on the right. Isn't that terrible. We have a very tragic story so first of all. Isn't that terrible. You already know that something terrible is happening in Australia. Major fires bushfires killing People killing millions of animals among San Animals that are being killed kangaroos which is upsetting but the really heart wrenching one. Do you Wallace Koalas. We the proverbial we the human collective did save a baby. Koala was so touching Almost died there's a before and after of singed Koala larger narrative that the basically the earth is going to extend as but honestly you get if if you want people to care about that you do it through Koala visuals. I think personally okay. So we'll get this is the first one didn't make it. There's video of him like screen like screaming. And you think it's it's GonNa be a happy ending. 'cause woman saves him but then he wound up dying but okay kangaroos. I have seen a lot of of like kangaroo corpse photos. Have you recent any of those. I have not noticed gross. It's terrible reluctantly. I haven't seen any any quality corpses because I don't know if I could take that. Not that I'm pro. Kangaroo Death Kangaroo Kangaroo through aside. You're not saying that you'd rather see kangaroo corpses. Well if we're going to do a sophie's choice about it. Then yeah I would rather not say. Their fees. Kangaroo Sophie's Kangaroo Choice Sophie's Marsupial choice so okay that's already terrible right now on top of that terrible twenty four. Four people have been charged with intentionally setting wildfires in Australia. So that's worse than me. Yeah well I mean you can't see not link them they're separated they're not separable. They're they're connected the question is you know somebody saw this on. The news went out and said I'm going to go set a FI. I guess so. I mean that's actually a good speaking of Sophie's choice which is worse climate change or intentional arson climate change. That's worse as in. It's like a bigger problem. That's a big problem right now. So it's it's it's another human choice down in some ways. It's worse because it's not seen as horrific as like. This is such an obvious choice voice. I've got an animal corpses to in your basement. No in In isn't that weird. This was one of the the writing in the story. It's just a it's just basic news story so a Florida Florida. My father actually went said that there would be no television. Magazine shows if if it wasn't for Texas Florida so what we should do is isn't that terrible isn't isn't that weird. Republicans Suck Democrat suck. Isn't that Florida Florida's well. This is definitely Florida. Let me see the headline Florida vacation home invaded by vomiting vultures and they have a pool. They've barbecue luxury. They're trying to live luxuriance lifestyle. Yes so this this story the is just fantastic. It's an AP story basically it's about this family in Newark Capo a New York couple. That has has a seven hundred and two thousand dollar House that they cannot enjoy because Turkey vultures keep the sending upon their home and just keep eating stuff and leaving carry on all over the place and and Chevron Casa Mono described the smell is quote like a thousand rotting corpses and then apparently the Turkey. Vultures get caught in in the pool area and can't escape in the quotas. Imagine twenty vultures trapped biting each other and they can bite through bone. She said they would bang away way against my windows running away from a bird that was attacking them blood was everywhere. It was a vile vicious traumatic event. People have suggested scaring the villagers off with fireworks Sir Balloons. A newspaper quoted an expert as saying that killing vulture. Having it's stuffed and hanging it in a prominent place would work because vultures avoid sir own dead. They should do that. They should have opinion. That's a listen others but you know what I. I'm just reading by CAT. said she he found out from the. US Wildlife Services is hard to get a federal permit to kill the protected bird. Oscar vultures are protected Turkey. Vultures I guess yeah but guys. There's an isn't that terrible within this. Isn't that weird. Since she has chronic lymphocytic leukemia which leaves her vulnerable to infections. He's had to be extra careful going outside even having someone power-wash wash the patio twice. What did I laugh at that terrible? You laughed at it because it's like it's unbelievably terrible. You aren't laughing at her at her meadows loving the horrible. The it gets worse Cat Sich even tried putting up four fake owls that have moving ahead and blinking lights quote. The vultures chewed the owls apart reports. You said they rip the heads off. At least they're not real hours. That could be worse. Here's a culprit. Also by the I have hours like like that. I don't know how it works outside. My my air conditioning wrote so that patrons don't come because I got a lot of pigeons once had left my some window's open. I came back to my apartment. There was a pin to my kitchen. The homeowners blamed cats as neighbor woman. They claim as accessibly feeding wildlife. Cats that she has seen the neighbor give bags of dog food and even a roasted chicken to the vulture interest. That's wrong don't give roasted chicken to vultures. That's right yeah definitely I want to go down to live with long these people for a while. I think this would be yeah. You can just feel how much the The Non Aligned author of this news story enjoyed writing this now. I remember this period of my life when I was starting as a reporter. I gotTA sign once in when I was working for the Moscow Times to cover a story about a guy who got arrested for for sending his mother's head to his teacher through the mail In Highschool arrested for Yeah exactly you can actually get arrested for that in Russia. Believe it or not anyway. That's the four food groups from this week. Yeah pretty good By the way we ever four basic food groups now listeners and viewers may remember that Once we did have have a category introduced called. Isn't that Bailey category with the Liz. Holy moment while we haven't isn't that Bailey again. And this literally is. Wow Oh. Isn't that ballet and listeners. You're not gonNA know but viewers will see this. There's a photo of Matt Taibbi our own Matt Taibbi and a little newsy hat eh standing squatting next to bail looks like Bali is it. Bill isn't isn't it Bailey Bailey. Tell us how did this unfold and fault is that right now is at a balloon. No it's actually it's actually bill. It was moving around. Yeah this was in. This was in Concord New Hampshire and Elizabeth Warren had a had a town hall that the Convention Center and afterwards I was on my way out and they had a so all. The candidates is an interesting thing thing. The candidates all do selfie lines now at the end of their events. So well Warren was doing hers. I went outside and there was a Selfie line for the dog so people were lining up and it was really felt. Obviously horrendously guilty because we've ripped on the dog in the show Kinda in credit for being very very cute. I don't think that's true. Ripped on the exploitation of the dog right now. I'm going to exploit the dog to dog out your belly ally so I think it's okay. Okay Yeah Well I still felt guilty. I kinda pretended to to just want to beat the dog because it was a cute now is a fan of Warren. which you know isn't necessarily they know you'd Collar l'Italia evil member of the press? He's always the thing so but I'm not the only person on the show who's who's been in In a photograph with billy who has had an isn't that Bailey moment billy. We have our producer. Dan this is chemistry. How Dan how did you arrange range? Did you give him a treat. Did you train them to do this. Did you kidnap him. You're right now. Wow he looks like a very proud dog in that one now. He's like enough but let's have. This debate are both of these pictures. Actually Bailey in other words. Is there a Bali body doubles there. Billy body double or did they send billy to carry it to be cloned Dolly Right. Do they have multiple Bailey's is there like America. And Ashley Bali are. There could be bally's alleys those dogs don't look the same hue to me. Well they could. It could Tan. That's true I guess or lanes different lanes but that that one looks stuff stuff. I don't really I mean. Can we corroborate. Where are there any witnesses? I'm convinced this was the Real Bailey. I DID A video with Senator Warren. In the end of December it was part of our Rolling Stone Cover for January. Our photo shoot up there and she brought the dog really friendly. I couldn't resist taking at least three or four self using with the dog. That's so cute. He's I think it's the real one I mean. You're just accepting the premise. I just want to clarify. You're saying that there's more than one. I like that. I just want people to know. You're taking a bold position. Well it's just a question that I don't know how we can answer it so you know it's it's like Emma accepting it as truth. I don't really know but I think it's certainly a possibility. I think that if that is the case still met the real one got it and I did have a piece of evidence out same before we started taping. which was that the dog that I met was pretty rambunctious and I don't think would have had the patience to sit and really released stay put in a Selfie line for multiple hours and meeting a lot of people talk? This dog was pretty. Well behaved that say. What is it with Massachusetts politicians? Dogs the famous defecating dog. Everyone was this right. He literally put. I don't know if this is a Mormon thing tough love Mormon style saying because they've so many wives they traveled with their used to putting the room sorry problematical whatever everyone. Maybe people don't know this but Mitt Romney. They drove from Canada to Vermont or something or candidate Massachusetts. It was a long ride and they put their dog. Shame is on the top of the car. Run at Shatt to protest. It's not nervous. I would have made a political standard anyway so I bring that up because maybe this dog. Maybe they gave it some kind of like a down like a tranquilizer just gave some NYQUIL. Yeah the other thing is it came to the event. And what do you do if if you WANNA have a Selfie line. You don't have your action could. Can you rent a golden retriever. Maybe right where do you go. What a rental Bailey rent a Bali? The other should bring up is that Readers have begun to make designs for his holy. Oh Yeah Oh can we see a couple of this is because as you tweeted or one sweet and wine caves matter and so re tweeted and ask people for various images of that so we have one of those and then people made damages for other things related to the show. We have a list. Holy we've to Liz holier shirts. Those are great We have a wine cave image. Elect this one because they they didn't just do the street at Beavis thing they kind of did mornings face right here. Yeah is that a what does she great guys love it. I love it. She had an enormous selfie. Line talked about that. Like it's really like Organizing I was chatting with the photographer are at the moment as well. Just do the campaign stuff there. There was a photographer. There who was basically saying that he's begun begun to try to capture the moment where the the candidate looks up with the Selfie line and realizes with the SMA how long it is like a new campaign journalist tradition so I thought that was pretty funny because the the Yang did it and more and more in there because when they're done with their speech you know they're they're tired they're like this is very tiring thing running for president. What you're doing your speech you just want to get out of there and relaxed few minutes but now at the end of the speech you look up and there's like a line going all the way to the back of you know and and there's a thing that passes over their faces just for meeting second and despair it's interesting? It's worse sending really long Selfie Line. No South Line at all short one. Dan Permanent Look of it. I haven't seen that yet. That would be interesting. That would be interesting. I wonder if Bailey gets a look in his eyes. Billy Billy had a pretty good sophie line but what if he is. I really don't want exactly what the wind mm cave so it was really interesting watching the warranting and thought we could talk about this. I find interesting. The press was they. They loved her last year she could. There was a moment where the entire Pressler was sort of bought into the idea that she was going to be the nominee and then suddenly like in the I in the fall. There was like this collective decision like that. This was not gonNA be identity. She was identity politics for journalists. Yeah exactly the thing from another campaign was saying Elizabeth. Warren is identity politics for journalists. But she this thing happened in in November. where she's she kind of tipped it away from Medicare for all and normally like you know campaign reporters? What do they care about Medicare for like? They're not like progressives liberals for the most part you know they they they normally don't pretend like where are you going to get. The money would go with that right. Suddenly it became this matter of extreme importance. Accordance that she she was no longer like behind Medicare for all and then then they started giving her a hard time about it then when she backed off of it they gave her a hard time about that and then and to reestablish her her progressive credentials she attacks spinach. The debate right goes after the wind cave thing and then there was backlash rush right by the time. I got to New Hampshire. The reporters were all ganging up on her. And basically AH there. There was a gaggle after the event. And I will the Gaggle. I'll show you the picture. The the The they were crowding on top of her. Sometimes sometimes these things get really aggressive and one one of the reporters He asked her to serve double down on the wind cave thing and and she wouldn't do it she's like all she would say is sort of a cell access and the the headline in politico the next day about the entire event was warren abandons. Wine Cave offensive assistive so this to me is a perfect example of how campaign journalism works waitlisted invent the story line. They throw it at you and then when you don't react the right way like they get a headline and yeah and what was interesting. was that with the warranting first. They said that they pretended that it was her being pro Medicare for all that made her unpopular popular other people looked at of course. I'm biased because I am for Medicare for all but the people I trust were like no. It's actually when she backed off of it. The test right they WANNA see. Yeah exactly. I don't dislike Elizabeth Warren and all I just think it's really weird the just sort of changeable at at the end of the press corps on. I think it's coming from not from reporters themselves. I think it's coming from donors and political strategists because you started seeing these stories about two months ago by how concerns exist within the party about a man you know her viability is that annoys me. Because if you'RE GONNA to change your attitude based on something that like somebody in the party tells me I don't think that's fair. Not How much of it is also like horse race politics six where they have to have a story and things have to shift. Yeah well. That's not donors and operatives too but the thing about campaign journalism and do sell this with The Biden and Yang thing reporters love it when it when the candidates go after each other. Because it's an easy headline it's easy to write out story. So they they always enjoy it when you give the candidate an opportunity to give some other candidates shit about something and they take the bait. When you don't like the candidates the reporters do get froggy about stuff flicked and that comes out and that's also not fair? You know I am. It's so crazy that the campaign goes on for twelve months and then what sometimes just a random the little thing like this because of the mood of a bunch of reporters About a particular issue can consider a campaign. You know she's she's kind of behind now and Who knows yeah? It's very weird disconcerting to actually see people covering sanders yes Senator Turner. But that's a weird change absolutely and then you know some of that was because of the fundraising statistics that came out and weirdly enough. That's one of the things that this is the first time I think that the horse race people people who who for whom all this stuff is a religion who's going to win now and it's not until sanders came up with these numbers which were insane. He had nine hundred thousand individual donations in in December. Forty thousand in the last thirty four point five million dollars for the quarter which was like ten million more than than the next a person what that basically means even if he doesn't do well on the first couple of months on the first couple of of votes he's going to stay in it like that. That's what the money really does. And that can actually change the thinking. I think a little bit of conventional wisdom. You started to see stories that he can actually win. I know on so you're actually saying the truth. That's weird I mean usually kind of an inversion or some weird distortion pathological distortion. But you've always said that it's better better to be in second place because once top then they they really go after you the most so I wonder if that's part of it too. They want kind of put them out there as a front row seat down to through. Did you see bill shares. Really interesting reach politicos. Bill share. He was like the suggestion was that small donors are not as representative of as as the general population as they have money to give I guess so because they're more educated or he's as opposed. I like the salt of the Earth. Large owners race superpex. Yeah Melissa. It's actually let's I'm almost thankful I'm almost grateful because it's such such a reach and it's you get to see inside the brain like how can we possibly spin this obviously positive thing and obviously kind of like grassroots tea thing as elitist something. That's not. Yeah we've been we've been gone awhile so. The campaigns have been going on full-bore last month before it sure lots of moments moments. Yeah well. There's a really great moment stone moment I would say from Joe Biden. I think we need to even I think we just set adopters. Let's just go to the videotape. During the run up to the passenger obamacare. President Obama promised my father that if he likes his plan you can keep his plan. And that's insurance will be cheaper after passages aloud and it's insurance costs doubled since you supported the plan relying and my dad or did you not understand the bill. You supported line line. Dog Face Pony Shoulder. Look there's two ways people know when something is important one when it's so clear when it's passed that everybody understands cancer and no one did understand obamacare including the way it was rolled out the gentleman's right. You said you can keep your doctor if you wanted to. You couldn't keep your doctor if you wanted to. Necessarily he's yeah I like. This is a moment. It's like a moment of honesty of stoned honesty right get blurred Stefo spurts of out. But and this I binding does do this. So it's almost not fair. Stone moment is almost. I think we said this before. It's like a normal Biden. Moment is another moment he needs. We have to just put the curve. I also love his his drift. History is excellent. If you've ever seen the old classic for two he he's beginning to due to the shoulder thing is beginning to work. Then he says nobody understood obamacare which is just awesome roll down. Yeah and basically saying I was high from two thousand to two thousand or so. I don't remember so that's that's a good one that yeah yeah. I wanted to nominate Michael Bloomberg since we haven't had a whole new show. This was great because they asked him about. There's like three things about this video. That are funny first. The question is do you agree with the characterization of the incident as an assassination and this answer serve I heard this morning Senator Sanders classified the killing of Sola money as an assassination. Is that terminology that you would agree with. I don't know in the context that he said it who he was talking about. But I think it's probably inappropriate is if he was talking about killing the general was that what he was talking talking about This is a guy who had awful lot of American blood on his hands and I think that's an outrageous thing to say nobody that I know of which think we we did something wrong. In getting the General the question is what did we do afterwards but not that. This guy was an enemy of America. Who Killed Americans and we have a right and an obligation? I think to go after him and we did. What is the proper way to speak about his death? What is the proper verbiage? I don't know I mean. Get a dictionary in. Take your pick. The guy killed a bunch of Americans. And we're going to worry about the language I don't think so there's so many things there but one of them is that he clearly doesn't know the guy's name so we call him. The general can't pronounce his name. Let's that's kind of a stone thing too right. Yeah yeah deal. Yeah exactly like what's his name. The Dude Dude General here we go with the shoulder yup flipping yeah. I don't know what to call it like get a dictionary. It's like it's like A. It's like a a super arrogant guy being stoned arrogant. People must sound like when they're stoned. It's also it's an assassination. Yeah it it's not necessarily a negative character. I mean I mean I think it's correct description. It's not murder. They don't say murder right. That would be right. Yeah that would be. It's more charged the Senate drone and they killed somebody they were intending to kill. And that's what it is that time of war. It wasn't like we we we we do this constantly anyway. I think I found it interesting suddenly. There's all this slake concern over the use of this word word like we don't do this all the time. It's just it's bizarre. And then he stopped he. Would you know Bloomberg would have done or do as president to this. Selemani is stop and Frisk. Stop and Frisk you. They have an articulate suspicion that So you money was about to commit a crime so they actually. That's not even funny because is that's actually part of the the justification they they have a similar kind of thought process. Yeah when they use the drone assassination to sort of all in the eye of the beholder older than the short tempered with the with. The questioner is just you know it's too early. He hasn't been in the campaign long enough to be entitled Yeah also since when is that. That's an important distinction. This is not a semantics game. It's a distinct. It's like yeah I I know it'd be interested in the question now. I don't know it's weird one more so we have something called chason appreciation day. Is it chasing her chest in Charleston. I don't know all right. We'll have to learn to learn. We're like what we should call him is like the husband. General Buddha judges husband And on twitter there is a little bit of A. There's a hash tag. That's trending on my twitter at least chased in appreciation. They are appreciation day. Just shows a bunch of photos does of of the of the husband with the mayor. Oh actually two people. That's a powerful marriage because I can't pronounce either their names regime Jason and Buddha judge judge. That's why I call Mayor Pete so we're GONNA call them mayor P and the husband the mayor in the husband. Yes so some of them. There's some weird gifts gifts of them where it looks like. He's time kind of seizure. Almost but one of them is really weird and and the husband is like petting the Mayor de Berber. Thing right yeah. There's a weird yeah exactly. It looks like he's about to give him a shave so it's meant to be an answer to the big structural Megan. Yeah so that's the hashtags. That's that's odd but I mean good thing. Warren Has Bailey because remember. Her husband wasn't being a team player when she's having a beer she's like you want one of beer. He's like he's like no thanks. I don't want you to be president. Yeah yeah this is an interesting one. I don't know anything about this guy. What are we? Don't know anything about by worry. We'll we'll we'll we'll have to learn so this is how we learn which we talk a little about the campaign You know we're getting down to the Nitty Gritty of You know the the I was on the third New Hampshire is in the eleventh. And it's crazy right now like we haven't had a situation like this ever. You're in the Republican field last time with similar but trump was clearly winning at this point last year. This there's complete chaos in the race on the democratic it excited and almost none of the hypotheticals except oddly enough Bernie winning make sense in terms of an early resolution to this race. So going round New Hampshire. There's this all kinds of things going on. Did you see Bernie there by the I didn't see Bernie I saw I saw a bunch of other folks Yang the Mayor Pete Warren mayor no just mayor. Yeah photo ops for this Hashtag the Dan rather have perhaps aw off stage yeah And then there's a secondary thing that's going on. It's an interesting Around the debates so the January fourteenth debate they changed the criteria to get into the debate. And you have to have a sort of heightened poll results you have to have either four pulls five percent or to polls at seven in the early states And the only problem is they. There haven't been any qualifying polls like Thanksgiving right. So the the candidates who didn't didn't qualify before have no way of qualifying going forward because it can air of of democracy or an air of motion movement. Yeah Yeah So. There's this whole subterranean it's not really being reported on a whole lot Booker wrote a letter to the DNC. Basically saying you know what the hell rate you know. You're you're going to have an all white panel and you're not giving us an opportunity Gang called them up and offered to pay to have polls done and some of the other candidates protested tested and just last week at the end the last week the DNC released a statement. Basically saying we'RE NOT WE'RE NOT GONNA commission any polls we we sort of encourage the private polling agencies to do polls if they feel like it but we're not going to make it happen so it's like suck it. That's what Chris Adult these. These folks have Cory Booker Watch. It's a dog. Eat Dog world. He's a funny guy. We have to get him. I liked liked. His dog ponds remember that he went the extra voice them Paul some the combination of the pond and his New York accent. New York. New Jersey accent is crazy. No that was fantastic. So the Iran happened while I was there and immediately there was a huge Almost all the candidates ended its put out essentially the same statement. They said they said we. You know trump didn't think this through it was poorly planned. They should have notified if I congress but there were only really two candidates who came out and said we shouldn't be in the Middle East and that was to- Tulsi and Sanders. Saint Bernard is just curious. I'm I'm just curious to know what you think like. What will this have a tangible impact on the campaign because traditionally like the Democratic voters? There's there's been a lot of history in terms of attitudes towards war and how it affects the the presidential campaign especially New Hampshire go back to nineteen sixty eight. Ah McCarthy LBJ thing. It's one place where the divisions within the within the network party or are Kinda pronounced so it was interesting to be fairy. Warren gave two different statements. Right road on that Or devolved depending on how you look at it but yeah I mean I think that sanders this is one of the areas where sanders and Tolsey really do stand out From the rest of the field and I think it's good I mean. I think it's good. I think it's you know. A major contrast point for sanders with Biden right because they've been hammering Biden support of the Iraq rang or Biden can't seem to keep straight when he was four. The Iraq La. Yeah Yeah but I think that yeah I think people are are sick of. I think this is one of these. Like kind of post-partisan things that people on both sides of the not not politicians but normal people who are both sides of the aisle. There's a lot of antiwar sentiment. There's a lot of we don't want to be messing over there. We don't WANNA be assassinating people over there. You see that on the Republican side to run into problems. Yeah Oh you're saying it's not just in the popular among politicians. Yeah that is true. That is something that's into and it's weird. We're at this moment. Where as Connor said this? When I interviewed him I was like? Are you shocked. By how Hawker some dams. And he's like I mean. Has a Democratic Party voted for the Iraq war so no I think it's good and there's also the other issue which is that the the authorization used military force which is what the provides the authority for any so trump did a thing that was kind of little commented on last year. He declared the designated the entire Iraqi. Revolutionary Guard a terrorist organization so under under the two thousand and one law that Bush passed the a. m. f. the authorization used military force that allows them to Kinda unilaterally attack. Anybody who's designated a terrorist so you don't have to go to Congress. You don't have to get were declared so by doing that designation. They don't have to go to Congress anymore and a lot of Democrats voted for that Bill. And it's a terrible bill like it should've told a long time ago we're no longer we're using it. You know in all these places were going after nation states and instead of terrorist organizations and AH only a couple of candidates are going there. You know you talk to Rotana. There's you introduced the. Hana the Guy Congressman Richman. They introduced an amendment to try to force the president to go back to Congress nuclear war and that was taken out Apparently in conference I talked to Gabar about this last week. And she's like I don't know who did it. What is the Democrats Republicans? Yeah it'll be kind of interesting to find out what if that comes out People are shaking their fists about this. But it's possible that you know both parties were in on that. Is that a case of wagging the dog away. I just want you just want to get another other dog. My dog is a war thing. Though isn't it is. Yeah that's when you create the pretext to which happened a little bit. Yeah right yeah so. It's also good because it is a popping. The bubble of or the shattering the myth that that trump is inherently the anti interventionist. I mean he he. He's gives good. He knows how to speak like he is. And in some ways that are more hawkish but this is a reminder. He's not he's not a peace nick he's not he's not I should. I should cop to this. I have written in the past that I firmly believe that trump has either because he senses. It's a political matter. Former whenever that he's not particularly stoked about having general wrangles White House and going going to full blown war. But you know this is true. I think both things can be true. I think that it's like it actually makes more sense in a weird way. This is like A. It's like a petty vindictive. Vindictive comes off as like a really inappropriate assassination as opposed to a toll but it the consequences decorous. If you know what I mean like a decorous I like but Totally unjustifiable war with Bush in Iraq. It was it was even though is based on total ally. It seemed seemed formal. It seemed to go through the rate formal chat channels and we saw some damned website about that part of it right it Kinda does it is the larger trumpian thing. which is the issue if we're for so many people as the decorum as opposed to the actual content But I don't think we're being trump defenders by saying that he's both hot headed and end dehumanizing surprised by this You know trump's political things on this sort of suggested something else but did he happen to them but you know In gabbard talked about this too if you look at the progression of the policies in the last couple of years it's really been and designed to kind of box around and and create a problem. You know whether it was the a. m. a. m. f. ing or arming Saudi Arabia or the sanctions. Or whatever it is you know. Inevitably you're going to get a conflict out of this if you just keep applying pressure so and trump is a big Saudi fan absolutely conflict. There all right. This is an interesting. Then you know you look look at the Democratic race. In general I was just blown away by how much of Zuid is right now. It could be. It could really be anybody. There's never been like this. Who would you bet on right now? Bernie okay right yeah. I'm I'm trying to stop my heart from my head. I mean I've always said this and now it's a little bit Than than in the past my feeling which is that it would be easier for him to win the General Enron the primary now for the first time I'm sent I'm feeling that maybe people Maybe it will win the primary. Maybe people are. I think people are afraid of Biden. I think some people who liked by ends politics are afraid that he's just too demented and I think people don't think warrants as take a little bit demented as. Yeah it's over the yeah. He's he's gone too far. I don't know what do you think if you look at it. You know Mayor Pete again the the black black and Latino vote thing you just. You just can't see how it works. I O in New Hampshire like he would have to stop at Super Tuesday or South Carolina. So you don't see how that works Biden you just can't Imagine Biden winning Warren's having trouble right now so I don't you know I don't know it's weird. I guess we should talk a little bit around to like this has potential to be like the worst thing in history and see this could be you know for all the things that trump has done. That are are not good. This this is easily has this could be the worst by a lot more and it would be. It wouldn't be it wouldn't be Iraq wouldn't be invading and taking the rest of the day off for beer and volleyball. We didn't thousand in Iran. This would be a long protracted horrible thing country huge death whole of rich relatively rich armed organized country this is. This is a disaster. What should we do about it? Get Out of there. I mean I. Of course we're not going to. I mean the the. It's unfortunate unfortunate that this isn't going to prompt the larger question about what the hell were doing there and you know so as a quick aside by the way this guy. The general wasn't I'm just an infamous terrorist organizer. The Washington Post. I call him an infamous handsome man handsome general He was also one of the president's pre of couse. It was all me he was also one of president. Trump's social media antagonists international experts have long known of Sulejmani as leader of Iran's onto lead codes force and shadow commands me more me yeah of proxy conflicts across the Middle East but many Americans. I heard of the general in two thousand eighteen when he started arguing working with trump via memes on instagram from toxic. Yeah the trump administration wasn't was engaged that year in a pressure campaign against Iran whose president Hasani warned in July that America would know that peace with Iran is the mother of all peace and war with Iran is the mother of all wars. This is relatively mild for theocratic craddock regime whose founding Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini dubbed the United States. The Great Satan but trump took particular offense to Iranian president. Ruhani Oh honey. and then it's all caps never ever threaten the United States again or you will suffer consequences. The likes of which few throughout history have ever suffered before so yeah. Trump tweeted that and then a few days later so lamont stepped in to defend Rohani. It is not in our president's dignity to respond to you. If you begin again the war we will end the war. You know that this war will destroy all that you possess so this could be. This could literally be the I active twitter war. He was unusually Internet savvy the same month. So the money shared with his nearly seventy the house and instagram followers. An image of the White House exploding And the poster appeared to have been taken from the two thousand thirteen film. Olympus has fallen fallen and doctors so that Sumani stand in front of the inferno with a walkie talkie in his hand and then there was. Donald Trump tweeted this back and forth took shape after trump withdrew from a three year. Old nuclear deal with Iran and as he threatened new economic penalties on the country in his own. Hollywood riff in November twenty. Eighteen trump tweeted a poster from self posing heroically quickly against a game of thrones style background and play on the shows. Winter's coming tagline sanctions are coming and then so so still in Miami tweeted I will stand against you or it so that happened. We should we should. We should follow that. That's interesting Just quickly please some housekeeping what It's a bunch of friends of show in In In New Hampshire and Andrew Yang had a message for anybody who doesn't WanNA listen into useful idiots that they're going to be consequences if he's president. Listen to the useful idiots podcast or Yang drone. We'll hover outside of your window. Deliver this message in a robotic voice. Why haven't you listened? CAST and then it will keep on bugging you with that until you do excellent. He was great he was a good sport and he was He's in good spirits on the campaign and and he's actually doing pretty well. I would say so. That was well you you know why bump yeah very excited to be speaking to Nina Turner who is a former state senator. I've Ohio. She had a really interesting bill by the way which tried to require. People meant to get like permission. Yeah right like to have If you want Viagra You had to get affidavits from your past. Lovers current lovers is is like the first ironic. Yeah bill she was trying to make a satirical caracul point about the abortion bells yes she is an amazing speaker. She's the National Co Chair of the Bernie Sanders for president Campaign she's also a professor Sir And she's also very gifted with the spoken word and she is feisty in a very good way and actually it's interesting to watch her and sanders because maybe we can ask them at this but it's interesting to watch a woman who's like very much moved by by her Christian faith and very much moved by secular Jewish guy who's very much moved by so they have the justice stuff in common and they won't lots of stuff incumbent right but it's funny how they go. I mean it's one of those things and we've seen this a lot throughout history. There's like the Jewish stuff too often been especially on the left. There's a lot of like a nice a rich history of unity. She said euphemistically. Well no I'm talking about the good crown heights stuff. I'm talking about good stuff right. I'm talking about like civil rights anyway. Nina Turner Oh yes nears great. We're very excited doctor. And she does not take any any senator senator opposite we want to talk about the campaign a lot of stuff. That's going on today but we figured we'd start a little bit with With your background and a welcome of course. Thanks thanks for coming on just just to give people a sense of how you got into. How did you start with politics? You started as a legislative in the early two thousands in Cleveland How how how did that happen? I never dreamed. Actually I wanted to be a nurse or a teacher. Yeah that's that was my goal. I didn't it make it to teach in actually I was a professor Cuyahoga Community College in my home city of Cleveland which brought me so much joy in many ways I feel as though the the nation is my classroom. Now how about that now in terms of just really you know having the opportunity to get a fellowship really opened my eyes to the power the state government but even before that I was doing grassroots organizing with a hero and champion in the city of Cleveland who is now deceased. Her name is fanny M Lewis. Louis Cleveland City Councilwoman. One of the longest serving council women. I think D- longest-serving councilwoman In the country or in the city and she represented a community. Cau- aw and there were some riots in huff during the riot times. Puff was a very volatile community in terms of race relations. And things like that and she really brought that neighborhood back almost like the Phoenix brush. You really brought it back so I admire her so much. That was really how I got. My start is working with Her watching her really serve people. She was born in one thousand nine hundred ninety S. So you know her orientation and all this yet endures. A black woman in America was just all over her but she really taught me in ways not just about not by sitting me down but just being in her presence and watching how she dealt with the most vulnerable. The people in a community really truly helped me so I never thought that they would come where I would actually work for. State senator work for the Mayor of the city of Cleveland. Blend become a Cleveland city councilwoman myself and in two years later go to the Ohio Senate. So that's the cliff note version of how I got here but it really really started in the grass roots. I remember so finally Matt and Katie having a you know being a part of a group an organization called students for positive action. How about that and we just I believe we were bright? Eyed bushy tailed. We just happen to believe that you can register people to vote and get them to go to the ballot box and take the power in their hands to determine their destinies that things would change. How old fashioned is that now? That's it that's pretty much all. I got my start and do you remember like an Aha. The moment that made you realize you wanted to work with Senator Sanders and be part of The movement that that you are spearheading with him and with countless people. I think that moment the those house were being built in my life and I just didn't really realize it. I really consider myself now. And you know hindsight is twenty me twenty and I am a grown ass woman at this point in my life really my party affiliation that of hell raiser humanitarian. That's just not I'm taking. I bet we'll come on. Yeah joined that party no seriously just being able to watch people like councilwoman Lewis being able to watch you know my former boss. Mayor Michael R wipe transform a city share wheel. There were jokes about Cleveland for very long time. Our city back being able to serve under a state Senator Ryan McClean from the Dayton area as a fellow and then being able to run in my own city and then go on to the Senate all along. I think I was being forged but this moment. Don't twenty fifteen came along. I was going to do whatever Democrats was used to. Do you know just kind of go. With the status quo did not no in my wildest dreams that the senator who stood up in two thousand ten and Filibuster for eight and a half hours against the extension of the Bush tax cuts which was really my first entree into understanding who Senator Bernard Sanders was that he would come on the scene and just disrupt everything and I remember my husband saying me baby. This is your candidate when the senator now that just you know about this Bernard Sanders Bernie Sanders right. I Call I call them. Sin To burn off at a extra emphasis. y'All trade yeah of course and I say yes. I'm familiar oh you're he said Oh no this. Is Your candidate anyway. My consciousness was paired pierce the pricked Matt and Katie. It really was that I could no longer continue along the course that I was going to be on. And ironically the senator senator and Ahmet Baha backstage if you believe is a nut at a democratic event for Women in two thousand fifteen. He was one of the keynote speakers among the other presidential candidates. And here you got Senator Nina Turner in that lineup. And I spoke right before order senator baby. If that ain't laying the Dow going now backstage. We passed one another and he said to me he said I've been looking for you. Wow and the rest is history history so here it is. He speaks after me quite often on this. And that was a very serendipitous so everything that he stands for for me like on a personal personal level. And I'm so glad that you both asked me this question because I I barely are rarely get an opportunity to go deeper for me to have the senator say ED healthcare is a human right in his country. My mother died at the young age of forty. Two years. Old aneurysm. Burston a brain. I saw her that morning. And by that evening you know getting the message message that my mother was in a coma in hospital at the young age of forty two years old seven children. I'm the oldest settle seven. I was twenty two years old at the time my youngest sister was was twelve quail. They're seven of us and I'm married and I have a son and see my motherland in that band. Think about all that she had endured a poor working mama in this country tree who would relegate her just because color skin her condition you know. Write her off. I thought about her. When I made the decision to support the senator and then myself being a first generation college graduate and to have the senator say it should matter who your mother and your father or your Mama and your daddy are not your grandparents? What Zip Code you come from that parents and grandparents and caretakers in this country to be able to look into the eyes of their babies and say you know what I might not have a whole lot of money but shoe if you want to go to college so you can go to a trade school? It was so hard. I was so consumed with the righteous indignation of his mission. They can no longer stay on. The course. Obviously what was going to go on. Yeah so I support. Senator Bernard Sanders and even though I caught all kinds of Hail Ford. I still kept hill fort this day by doughnut twitter. Thank you for that though. Thank you very creating that. Yeah that was a famous moment when Jeremy emme faster a young white man who writes for the daily Banter Lectured you about the civil rights movement. Yes he that was where that was born from. Because you you complained rightfully with your the righteous indignation you just mentioned about how the dams were trying to basically like placate DNC trying to placate you with with donuts and water water and ignore you and this was the genesis of the whole donut. Yeah Yeah and then. And then it was highlighted by this guy. Jeremy Faster who wrote about how he had gone onto the Civil Rights Museum in Memphis. And so he told Senator Nina Turner about how she was disgracing her ancestors. It was unbelievable. Oh man that white man about my damn ancestors hello somebody we just shows the arrogance and it's pretty sad bad though this. Can you bring up a really good point. It's okay if people do stuff like that to a progressive black woman like me. It's okay see the folks on rise up up and say you know I might not agree with US and T- but don't don't don't roll owner like that black women in America it's followed black women. Black Women lead or black women are the backbone Democratic Party unless you are progressive black woman. WHO's ranks Bernie Sanders? Then they can say whatever the hell they want to say to you right. That's why I roll this way. I named Senator last name Turner. I I am going to demand and get my respect not just for myself but all of my ancestors who were called boy and girl even when they were grown under a corrupt vicious system. That relegated gated black folks the second third fourth and fifth class citizenship in this country. But the thing that these Hashtag woke folks okay for me even if you agree sure yeah. Of course you'RE GONNA about civil rights history and your ancestors. Also it's the listen to listen to black women unless they are to my left certain progressive in which case. They're what they're something Then your pathologist is the pseudo woke worries. It's such a joke because there really is. You just see their weaponising. This is sad but the Reverend Dr Martin Luther King Junior and Minister Malcolm X.. Warren Black folks about White Liberals that folks can go and look that up. Aw No any day. You rather deal with the person who's going to be true to their nature because at least you know what you're getting right. Yeah yeah in that sense has this has. Is this campaign I opening for you in particularly with regards to how the press has treated this campaign I mean even as a member of the media. It's been kinda surprising to me how how progressive it's been towards Senator Sanders in this campaign. Generally now they're coming around to finally saying that that Bernie could win but they're saying he could win but it would be terrible herbal. What's been your reaction to the media coverage of of this campaign so far? This is a sad commentary. Yes the Bernie blackout is real the not black him out maligning him and I want to really thank you. Guys were really standing up. That anti-semitism makes my blood boil. I mean I'm glad I know this. This is a family show so I won't go past the dam but it really is a ridiculous in any kind of way whether you agree with somebody or not to allow people to come out and call the Jewish candidate a Damn anti-semites just something sinister about that match. Your point is we'll take either. They're black DOC. In a model they maligning him and his supporters and may adjust and Katie row. With me on this can I just say a word about the Bernie Bros.. Yes yes okay I am one. Yeah same here you know. And it's the same kind of tactic that was used against. Then Senator Obama Obama by the same crew. When rates had the nerve to run for president in two thousand eight? They called them the Obama boy. Yeah exactly the same remember member this you know yes. The senator does very spirited and committed followers but they are no more data than anybody else's supporters. All right what does it mean when support has come after people like us and they say all manner of things you remember that guy that worked for the daily coast yet Andrzej on June fired him or not and I can't say what he said but people back and rotate with that. I'm really disgusting. Things about their and sexual things and do things. Yeah yeah no one. No one's demanded people are constantly demanding that that the senator Bernard condemn anything that said by any random person that has any congenital could be an anonymous person could be a troll from. We know it's a fake person right. Yes uh no one's demanded that people apologize to you for calling you all sorts of names. No one's demanded that people apologize to Brianna Joy. Gray go ahead. Jason Te in fact if you call her way to Jason on twitter you may get quoted by Brian Williams on MSNBC and you're anti sanders. Tweet may be cited by Brian Williams on that actually happened and I know some people who cares twitter but yeah but this is a narrative the burner narrative which is a narrative that's false and has always has been false in his even more Less backed up now demographically than before it infiltrates into the actual nachos social media. Which is why it's important to push back John? and which is why if you're gonNA look which is what they do at random anecdotal incidents on twitter to support a narrative. That's why we point out. Well what about this harassment and this abuse and this toxic behavior on twitter. That's directed at people like you and countless other others and we have linear receipts on that guy. Attempt is to de legitimize it among his candidacy and his supporters who are really just really standing strong and they sit foolishness. Look the senator condemns any any type of bishop bow hatred hateful rhetoric stamp that if anybody is a true supporter senator. We follow his lead. Your he he doesn't even come after he just stays on the issues and that's where he wants to his supporters Takeda. Your point is well taken. Helical anybody out there perpetrating. Yeah he a supporter of the senator. But you're all right. The hypocrisy of it all is so ridiculous if you're gonNA demand apologies then demand across the board and don't just target one person and again the Bernie Kratz whereas by-in-large our spirit and they want to see change in this country and they mad as hell. They want to take it anymore. In terms of what the Democratic Party did to the Senator Senator to his tried to do because I know what brother killer Mike is Right. He said this when we were in Atlanta couple of months ago he said this sanders supporters. And I want to say this. All the support is is out there. He said we already one now. Trying to collect our trophy and that is true and what he meant by that. Is that every issue that the senator stood boldly four twenty twenty. Sixteen in Twenty twenty. His position is being animated. The Democratic Party every debate is about the things that he stood up for two thousand sixteen ecksteen so we have already one now. It's time to get the trophy. The trophy means getting people out to vote. And you know what in many ways we are standing up the people who don't even believe in Mr and that's the beautiful thing about it. We get Medicare for all for all people not just for the people who voted for Senator Standard Sands College for all canceling medical canceling student debt. It is all of the people in this country. And not those who support the senator so I wanNA shout out because the Bernie Crest catch so much hail and I I just want to lift them to any true. Okay we can get people can push back. You can be hard on issues and soft people right. I don't believe you're talking about people's MOMMAS. They dogs cats vets. Don't do that. You're right on the issue. Is the campaign peaking at the right timing. It seems like the Sanders campaign went through a lot last year. There were there were stuff internally like the there were problems the didn't always poll so well but right now the campaign seems to be doing really. Well it's got rip broke fundraising records last last quarter. What's the mood like inside the campaign right now and if Bernie wins a couple of early races what do you think the reaction is going to be? I mean it's kind of an unknown. We've never really been here in the recent history of the Democratic Party to have this kind of thing. Become this close to winning winning have we. That is so true. I mean it's electric. We're not taking anything for granted. We are excited. I mean when you combine the traditional poll numbers with with some of the things that are happening in this campaign I e five million donations. Hello somebody about forty thousand of those donations came in on the actual like December. The thirty first people just out there letting it be known who their candidate is. Our top donors. Teachers baby was not the low about that now. People who work for corporations like Amazon like Walmart target and even the United States Postal Service. And what that says very symbolically those teachers and those working class people who work for those corporations they are saying collectively their very presence on this campaign is saying that we the workday people of this nation have found our champion. Somebody who doesn't capitulate don't Medicare for all somebody who didn't try to cut social security somebody who didn't lead efforts to to push through a bankruptcy bill that did not allow working class people to file bankruptcy somebody who didn't alter the crime bill and was proud of it irregardless. Somebody who didn't respect professor professor Doctor Anita. He'll you to this day. Who still had ample opportunity to apologize to her many many years ago? Oh but she's a black woman she don't get the same kind of respect. Don't let me digress. What I am saying? Am Matt to your question. Is that the momentum of the people the movement is behind the senator for him. It's not just about winning the presidency. It is what what condemnation will we be. Even after he wins the presidency and the way to to change the body politic and this nation is by bringing millions the millions of people in to the into the phone and that is what Senator Bernie Sanders election is doing. No other candidate has this kind of synergy and energy did you talk to Senator Sanders about how you the two of you would perform in stump speeches. I mean I've I've seen both on the trail before. Obviously you complement climent each other very well but you must have thought how can I compliment. Bernie best His presentation is very different from yours. You're very emotional. Easy to connect with very accessible accessible his is a little bit drier. Sometimes did you think about that. Did you think like a little professorial. That's the word reporters us all the time frame mad. Scientists signed as absent minded professor. My class was always you know the way I speak. That's how my classes were. I always excited. No you know the senator. He goes deep and I'm always amazed at how people they lean on his everywhere to me even when he's there in those crowds and senator can go for hours but people are listening to to him because they need that food for their souls so no. We didn't coordinate anything but I am. A student of Senator Bernard Sanders. We are seeing and Yang. We just go real well well together. I bring the fire thunder in a very emotional way and then he brings the fire and the thunder in a different kind of way but it still goes together together and I am really proud of always proud when I had the opportunity both to be on the stage with the senator and also to travel the country when he's not there because now it's time to modify autopilot efforts so quite often you got people might not necessarily see me always at the big rallies and the events but trust that I am somewhere in another state multiply ought to plan our efforts to help Senator Bernie Sanders become the forty six president of the United States of America. I really do feel like this. Is My mission for Tom. Such as this the be a movement leader under the movement leader that I am and had the opportunity to catapult a true people's champion into the White House will be is one of the highest honors of my life and I've done mm mini. I've been blessed to do some pretty incredible things. Being mother is top of my list. But this right here will always be in my faith five and and I'm doing this and I know you both know me and you've been watching me this. This comes from my heart. I do believe in this is not just some fly by night for me this. I want other people what I want for myself. The families. I won't for other families what I want for my family. I won't but other people in this not just this nation but this world what I want us in the United States of America Erica for people to be able to live a good life and not have to be in the one percent to do for people have clean water. Clean Food Clean Air. I want those things for for myself but my family my community that which I want to other people's family community this nation and dare I say the world so I am on Ma mission right now. Something was really beautiful was that I was at the Rally for the senator in Queens right after his heart attack and and you were one of the speakers and it was so moving and after the rally a bunch of us were walking and I heard like pitter-patter stomping fee we turn around. There's this boy. Well he was probably like I don't know how old he was. Maybe twelve running running running running and Senator Senator Turner and he. He stops ups. We say and he's like out of breath I love you. He says he said to Senator Turner he was like a fan and he you know and then someone else shouted another person shouted kid from their window. When you were walking by it was really a moving to see this? This little kid who was like twelve years old. Who saw you as a hero and you talk to him about what he was studying in school? Yeah I was really and of course that was the same rally you cited. Ll Cool J.. Okay yeah exactly. Yeah the is. Has He reached out to. You has endorsed the campaign yet. Not I just got to work on the hill jam. We need to do that for him to do that. Absolutely but we have killer Mike though I know. Yeah yeah us what What do you say about the the narrative of around the white working class and the narrative around the working in class in general which kind of assumes that there that it kind of invisible alizes people of color who are in the working class And presents the the working class people as there's a narrative that I've heard that's basically like oh because there's racism. We can't organize around class. which seems like the exact opposite visit message? It seems like because there's racism that's why we have to organize around class also wired Americans just so bad at talking about class. Yes another good. Yeah no I mean it's it's it's cast and its class go hand in hand and you know it is unfortunate that so many people on the left one a weaponized Japan is identity out. You know they really don't give a damn left right. Yeah you know that the burden of student debt disproportionately portions Impacts African American women so therefore college for All matters to the black community as well as other working class communities they. I really don't give a damn right. That black maternal right now they'll say these stats but they really don't care because if they really care then they would be with Senator Sanders. That's what it is that we need universal healthcare in this country because in this country mothers in general diaries there's some of their counterparts in other specialized nations but black women die three three times the rate black babies die at higher rates. Inhale if your baby is old enough to grow up as a black woman. You always got the fear that one day. They're going to be gunned down. Hello somebody so they talk a good game but they not willing to put the effort into it to make these things real so we talk about the class dynamic everybody that is in the working class catching hale but as the senator always reminds us and he is right on on this that there are disparities within the disparity right so so as a nation we must we cannot abdicate our responsibility to deal with both class and cast it is real and on the cast is level. African Americans are catching hale left and right as we always have to the inception of this nation. That's real but I want to add to that met because what you're asking what you acadia going. This is important. The Reverend Dr Martin Luther King Junior Baby C we bought the Mlk Day. You'll have some of them saying tired. Liberals Graph craft quote him talk about how much they love him. They not gonNa tell the truth that he was one of the most hated men doing the work. And when he stepped out of civil rights talking the militarism and the war and its are talking about capitalism and the evils of it then he was vilified in his lifetime machines games and computers profit motives and property rights are considered more important than people the giant triplets of racism economic exploitation and militarism. In capable of being conquered saying people. Then we'll have the curse to say that that the Reverend Dr Martin Luther King Junior asked us to look at capitalists. There's something is wrong with the system right here. He lost a poor people's movement before he was assassinated sonate man. It was a poor people's movement a Rainbow Mosaic of black and white and indigenous and Brown and every other makeup together because the because the Reverend Dr Martin Luther King Junior understood what are senator understands that in order for us to elevate the workaday people in this country poor people in this country entre. We have to do it together. We have to have a multi racial multi generational coalition of conscious minded people. That's the only way that it's going to happen. And we can have all of that and still recognize the cast dynamic to poverty the cast dynamic to hate. We can do all of those but we can't do those things separately so the folks these these so-called Liberal Liberal left folks they like to weaponize. Yeah because they don't want working class people from all backgrounds to come together because they know what we do is over right. They WANNA liberal. They wanted A diverse top ten percent Komo WANNA Rainbow Coalition of ten Dan percent right instead of a one percent. That's straight white male. They wanted diverse top ten and everyone else can go to hell. That's it all very fine. People does the senator. We'll say on the stage all very fine people but there's a difference. There are lots of people in this country. That don't mean they should be president of the United Right right right the same very fine people people who have fundraisers in one case you. Chris goes right crystals the same. Very find people who stand up in the living rooms multi millionaires and billionaires and tell them to their face that nothing is fundamentally going to change for them. I want your listeners and viewers to know that if nothing fundamentally changes for the one percent did nothing fundamentally changes for Big Mama South Carolina Nothing Fund Moraine. Just four sisters and brothers and Cleveland Ohio or Los Angeles California or Las Vegas Nevada or Denmark. South doc nothing fundamentally changes so we need a champion who says to the corporate interests of this nation of coming for your greed baby. I'm coming I'm in for your that's it and that's all and that's what this campaign is all about so. I know that you can see by my enthusiasm because this how role every day I mean I'm just like there's I wake up saying yeah baby let's get to put all your heart and your soul into this. We will never get a chance quite like this with somebody quite like him who has been on a justice journey and a message message as a as both as a student you can look decade the sixties seventies eighties. The nineties two thousand roll all the taste. Baby Senator Bernard Sanders has been on the justice journey for a very long time so it was hard not to be excited about this because too much is on the line too much suffrage Matt and Katie. And I know we're about the rapper. But something I was just in Las Vegas last last Friday and I hear stories all over this country. I'm sure you both do but I I met a couple in their daughter. She just turned eighteen years old and she has a medical condition as most people. Do we got somethin'. Then and if we don't have something we will get something in our lifetime but their daughter they shared their daughter does one medication to preserve her life. Not Cosmetic surgery not to preserve per line sixteen hundred dollars a month and it was a medication that she needs to metabolize boo sixteen hundred dollars a month. So when you got all those very fine people up on the stage capitulating and saying that they don't want to change the system. What about her you? What about her she's eighteen? And then what about our elders. The last time I checked whether young or you little season you need medicine last time. I checked whether you're young or your season. You need a health care system whereby you can get the healthcare that you need to live a good life and on and on and on and that is why Senator Bernard Sanders is the right candidate four times such as this. I know we've got to wrap up but just really quickly just to a talk about that just a little bit with the wine caves and all all that you've been involved with our revolution you've been involved with this campaign is the is the fundamental change the most important one in politics changing changing the dynamic of who funds campaigns. It seems like it seems like. That's the proof of concept and the Sanders campaign is it's just not powered by corporate money. And that's really never the happened before is that is that absolute prerequisite to to having a real change going forward like to cutting off that money supply. You hit the nail on a Eh Matt that that is dragging that we must slay in this country because it's all connected that the ultra wealthy in this country they got lobbyists to do their bidding. They do on just fine but the worker day people in this nation continued to suffer. You know I forget what dad some some think-tank they did a a tweet. They looked looked and I think they went from two thousand two thousand and nine all the way to two thousand nineteen and what they show. was that the top four hundred wealthiest families in this country a year after year after year there will continue to go up and I think in twenty nine thousand nine it was. It was three trillion dollars for example. And then they checked the position that with the increase in the federal minimum wage from two thousand nine to this very moment. Seven twenty five cents each and every single gear. So what are you saying. They assist attorney. I am saying this that we know. Now maybe we didn't know of before but we clearly understand that now because Senator Sanders set the example in two thousand and sixteen when when he ran for president raising grassroots dollars that it can be done if elected officials particularly Democrats. I wish we can get some Republican brothers and sisters to join us and there are some activists on the Republican side who believed that the over wellman influence on money pollutes this system. But if we can come together the and say that we will no longer tolerate elected officials who raise money like that. We want people to raise money with the grassroots. Then that way working class people in this country they get the same kind of voice that the ultra wealthy gay but if we continue to fund money in this corrupt dysfunctional way than all the guards were all always controlled. The system and that is what is happening. That is the answer and listen to somebody who ramp races and have had you know being called time rooms I get it but the Great Dr Maya Angelou and I paraphrase and her once Eh. You know better do better. We know better like there are no more excuses the raise money that way we may have had it then but we don't have it now and what better office office to to show that they can be done. The highest office in the land as the run for President United States of America senator. No more excuses so guess matt absolutely. We must have of real true campaign finance reform in the United States of America and that should not be a partisan issue that is a working people powered issue that we do not allow the oligarchs to buy off politicians. And that's exactly what they're doing systemically. That is what is happening in this country. One really short thing if we may I. It's so moving to watch you and Sanders Speak and I love that you are. You are a woman who is of faith. This is you have a very particular kind of scriptural background orientation and then at Sanders. Anders is a Jewish secular guy like may and yet there's such overlap. And what what is that like for you. I mean do you see the and there's such a rich history of Jewish black solidarity and organizing that we saw in the civil rights movement and so it gives. It's always nice to get very moved when I see you guys talking saying what's it like for you. At what particular any universal and what is it for the yeah. Yeah no one has ever asked me that question and you. It really feels good. It goes together is really organic. Do you know is not like I said the senator. I don't sit down and say okay. You say that he has never once told me what to say or were not to say is this. I am very spiritual person you my mother was a preacher and so I spent a great deal of my life I like to joke and say my siblings and I had to go to church eight days as a week but I I have that black church experience and it does fit it. Just it fits so nicely and so for me. You Know WanNA descriptions. I use all the time you know the tree by out of fruit that it bears and to me. That is the foundation by which I am able to talk about the senator's record in such a way that it paints a picture whether people are secular her or not whether you're Christian Buddhist Muslim atheists agnostic. It is a try to pull it in such a way that people can see in their minds are and feel very comfortable about it. And I'm not afraid you know you got these. Don't even give me so you're GONNA get talking about why I'm gonNA leave it there. You asked me a very positive question. Celeste ended on a positive note. I do subscribe to a tradition. That believes that you do unto others as you would have them do unto you now. We're we're human and we're flaws. Sometimes we get it wrong but I'm talking about big universal things do unto others as you would have them do unto you. That is the foundation appointed his campaign that everybody should have healthcare had habit now have to go bankrupt that everybody should have clean water clean food clean air not too much to ask so they give I mean I. I must say that was the best question ever been asked. Yeah Yeah Yeah just fits spiritual I think this this whole experience and this campaign is very spiritual and I and I think it's it's it's a loved the you call a righteous indignation and it's when people are mad that sanders yells. I mean and you guys have different styles. But you're both have very justified indignation and I'm always like how could you be mad at the people who are mad about the system. How are you offended by that more than you are by people dying dying because of lack of healthcare? Come on yeah talk about it. No you know. There's a Hashtag Bernie yields for us. A man yeah and sister Turner years for us to gone the listen we only got time to play with it. Too much is on the line. Only all that we love is on the line. That's all right okay. I'm a year a little bit. I'm glad senators yelling to. I had a boss. Oh I hope I could close Dell's with this when I worked for the city of Cleveland and he would always say these words and I think is very apropos so this moment he said if your hair is on fire. act like your hair's. Hello Oh somebody that's really what this campaign is all about maybe hair it's on fire and we are acting like our hair's on fire and we are given the requisite energy time I'm an attention to notify the world that are here is on fire outstanding. Well we'll see you with great. Thank you so much to Dave in all the people like you who are working out there and ro Khanna and Victoria Duly and this and Jim Zogby and all these people you guys are so inspiring and thanks. What's uh-huh call glass? I hope we get a chance to do it. Aghast when your friends can't hardly ah thank you so much and happy new year both and thank you for being among the freedom fighters four times such as this really admire both of you in the work that you do thank you. So much. Nina S. N. T.. She she uses abbreviations like Oh sister news or good way better than I do. And that's quite i. I like to pride myself on on my abbreviations. NBD NBD no big deal. Thank you that's all you can hire al.. I can't do that so she's that she has great. You can tell me she's always like that but you can tell the mood and within the sanders campaign. I think we're both a little bit plugged into their their campaign and they're feeling good like there. There's a lot of. Hey we can actually win this and it's weird. You got like Al Sharpton like saying that that he's he's really GonNa you know how great how committed and honesty is. Of course. It's funny whenever anyone says something. Nice about Sanders on MSNBC you have someone like giving major shade. There's this other woman on the panel who is looking at Sharpton. Like he'd just said something about the mother of the MSNBC face it is rotting she's resting rotting face But yeah so there's that that's an interesting phenomenon and actually asked about this on twitter. What people thought of this new coverage I mean is it just so that is it? Because he's doing so well that that the media will be really embarrassed if he does well in in the upcoming a little a little bit of that nobody. Nobody wants to own a headline saying that. This person can't win. We rang weeks before that happened. Rate nobody except for Jennifer Rubin who row. She great She's she's she's going after We didn't have time to talk about this with the senator with Nina Turner. She's going after she's asking. Why Bernie hasn't hasn't been vetted for his health stuff? He's been insufficiently vetted by the Washington Post literally ten million Steiner's writes weekly column. That's basically anti sanders. There's room and the Washington Post editorial board got on board that was not an intent with Ruben about sanders. Health stuff and it was amazing because the article the Washington Post Or the editorial said that the headline was about Sanders Santander's alone yet. In the body of the peace they actually said that Sanders Biden and Warren having given over a lot of evidence of their health stuff so they kind of forgot to hide the fact that they're they're totally focusing on sanders. I know the the the coverage of Sanders. I think it's it's pretty tough for anybody by almost everybody who works for a campaign thinks the media is out to get them but I think in the case of several campaigns but particularly Bernie's they have they have a real case this year Question I know and then you sound like people who aren't what's frustrating is people who aren't aware of that if you say that you sound like a conspiracy theorist and it's you're not. You're actually talking about what's happening and I love you know. She's Great Jim Great row Khanna Carmen you lean crews all these people. It's really great. Because they're obviously not just straight white dudes and that was such a coordinated coordinated smear last time and now they can't use that anymore because demographically male least white Campaign base well. Let's the centers campaign did have trouble initially getting traction with minority voters. That was not fake. No it wasn't a fatal with with with name recognition. It wasn't fake. It was fake in the way it was reported on which was like because of his bad bad takes aches on race and gender or because he's like inherently not liked by people of Color and women as opposed to the name recognition issue. I think it's fair to say that. That's not Bernie's favorite topic though like no but he's very comfortable talking about certain things. A lot of things are not as favorites but as Nina pointed out. What's interesting is that so many of these universal programs are programs that do disproportionately benefit the people of Color and women? People which doesn't mean you can't talk about it you do you have to talk about it and I. It was amazing during that last debate When Sanders was asked about race and racism started with the climate thing you know and end and no one else by the way? Joe Biden was asked about reparations and he pivoted to immigration and that was fine he didn't get stopped there but one sanders. We were disclosed that he said anything at all. I think well I mean. Did we talk about this. How how Chris Cuomo Frito how? He said that. He was amazed by the fact that he literally said free. That was the best debate Biden has done yet and he was alert. Alert the entire time literally pass out son is that what's called sundown to know. That sounds good. And then this was fascinating because David axelrod a one point during the post CNN debate coverage Dave sorry it was it was an MSNBC PBS debate but during the CNN coverage of it. Gloria Borger Borger was saying something like well. Let's talk about Bernie and an exercise like I guess we have to but before that let me just finish this up. Then he goes talk about burning any goes you know what Bernie I gotta say. He's like a billy Joel Concert. You know you hear the hits of the nine you're GonNa hear it's gone and Billy Joel Concert. You're going to hear the same hits from the nineties and two thousands of the eighties and everybody knows the words and everybody sings along and they'd love it and he says you know Bernie's actually really doing. Well we forget about Bernie. It was again these weird moments of like media I don't know Dana Bash of course could barely contain her. She wanted to throw off like one of those vomiting table. Yeah exactly I'd rather. She looked better. That's not a better look. I mean her face. She would look less contemptuous if she just vomited and chat like a Turkey and she does when she's like holding it in really gross or note Yeah I I WANNA yes. Nina turns great gin end. zombies great got WANNA give Sanders Shadow for being better on Palestinian stuff than any other candidate. And it's kind of moving for me and I feel we'll get a little bit. I get for clamped I do that. He's Jewish and It it's it's kind of. We'll talk about this on another episode. About why hot take why it makes sense. If you're a lefty jude to actually really care about Palestinians that sounds like a two toop two episodes segment all right well tuning into usefully. We'll see you next week

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Kangaroo Court

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Kangaroo Court

"Are you hiring with indeed you can post a job in minutes set up screener questions then zero in on your shortlist of qualified candidates using an online dashboard get started indeed dot com slash powerhouse that's indeed dot com slash powerhouse back to enter some tough questions yet I'm just continue to be surprised by these Lindsey Graham tweets American isolationism did not work will not work now when it comes to fighting I'm obviously Lindsey Graham has been very concerned that the administration was talking about the withdrawal of American troops from that region in advance or around and not always on the same page but Maryalice more interesting in some ways is watching the messaging coming out of Capitol Hill because that is a big they are planning on bringing up administration officials to Capitol Hill to testify about the decision around this now they made that statement before this military offensive Democrats lockstep together they united the President Has United Republicans and Democrats but against him when it comes to the Syrian just incredible one of his do what the president has done when it comes to US troops in northeastern Syria and that is something because time and time again Lindsey Graham has been strong Alice in the midst of an impeachment investigation so you better believe that they are strongly against the president on this you have Mitt Romney and Chris Murphy both saying that they whether or not they're going to ask for the suspension of Turkey from NATO. He talked about a bipartisan sanctions. Bill that would be veto proof to essentially undo keep up with the fast moving news out of Turkey it has been constantly changing local Syrian forces are reporting an intensive bombardment by Turkish jets minute the Turkish president announced that on twitter Wednesday that incursion has begun it's interesting as we're watching these messages come out of the White House the Department of Defense and the State Department the President but this is definitely an issue he is disappointed with the president's decision on and it's something we've seen Republicans and Democrats unite over and unite over I allies and defenders on Capitol Hill Senator Lindsey Graham from South Carolina has been going toe to toe the president on this one using bold language to push back and to the present at the same time that Turkey is launching this offensive I mean a real call by Republicans for him to not do that not just to not do that but Lindsey Graham has said that they're going to question says it's a bad idea to outsource American national security to Russia to believe otherwise is dangerous he tweeted he went on to say if media reports are accurate Turkey was beginning so now that this operation has gone underway you can we can expect in the next week or so those officials to be brought to Capitol Hill Annex on military positions and on civilians there's talk right now that US officials might have been given a heads up but again like I said a developing story it is changing by the as usual Serena breaking down just a ton of news not in Washington DC around the world we were talking all morning trying to in contradiction to what we're hearing from the administration yeah you're exactly right while the administration seems to be stumbling on this to get their messaging and order we've seen Republicans he has in fact entered northern Syria we don't have any evidence right now of a ground offensive but we have air offensive Lindsey Graham tweeted that would be a disaster in the making couple of days ago the president said that if he didn't like or approve of the way Turkey did this offensive that he could stifle them economically and economic sanctions since probably favorite medium twitter shocking right Lindsey Graham using twitter tweeting just this morning I urged President Trump to change course wall there still time they are going to take the administration to task over this and demanding a briefing demand briefing especially because the White House messaging has been really all over the place with this now remember I do not deceive you we are not Riggan John the women have taken over this episode of the two of them are out and they'll be back next time but you're lucky we are on Turkey but now we've learned that the White House issued a statement saying the US does not endorse Turkey's invasion of Syria and that the US has made it clear to Turkey this operation was a bad idea that was each mint inquiry so you have the president battling with his own party over foreign policy while battling with Democrats at least over his own actions and this growing impeachment inquiry that is just picking up steam we saw Tuesday night the White House sent a letter to the Democratic Speaker Nancy Pelosi arguing is not the messaging that the White House put out on Sunday when they first announced the US withdrawal of troops in the region and all of this happening like you said under the cloud of an that Democrats were only intent on overturning the result may twenty sixteen election saying that they were not planning to cooperate this letter was something serene to be expected to participate in it they're essentially saying that the House of Representatives has no right to launch an impeachment inquiry and of course Democrats Disagree Intimate Constitutional Foundation any pretense of fairness or even the most elementary due process protections and therefore they go on to say the executive branch cannot Speaker Pelosi said Mr President you are not above the law you will be held accountable all of this is coming just a day after the EU ambassador rather scathing maryalice what really kind of took my breath away in this letter is that Republicans and the White House are saying that this inquiry quote lacks any legit sunland was told that he was not allowed to testify on Capitol Hill the State Department pulled that testimony within minutes of when our reporters were a to produce these documents we consider yet additional strong evidence of obstruction of the constitutional function acting him to come through the doors and the chair of that committee Adam Schiff was equally stunned by it as we're Republicans on that committee everyone is really expecting Gordon Sunland to make an investigation is entirety but simply not allowing Gordon Sullen to testify is actually evidence of further obstruction the failure to produce this witness the failure Democrats And you know I think we have some sound from Adam Schiff on what he believes this decision by the administration to not participate not in the impeached errands for that deposition and then the State Department laying down the Gauntlet Saint Nope we're not going to play ball and then within hours we received this letter from the White House to house taking actions that prevent us from getting the facts needed to protect the nation security and that was of course House Intelligence Chairman Adam Schiff and he was speaking about Gordon the heart of our national security and by preventing us from hearing from this witness and obtaining these documents the president and Secretary of state art then you had of course Republicans come out and this Maryalice was what was interesting they came out and said this was a kangaroo court but if you listen to what Republicans said and then take into account Adam Schiff said the letters that were sent later really echoed both of their respective parties what we see in this impeachment is a kangaroo court and Chairman Shift is Y K militias captain kangaroo you think about what the Democrats are trying to do impeach the president of the United States thirteen months prior to an election based on an anonymous I'm Linda the UN ambassador and testifying about that phone call with Ukraine those text messages that were made public by the former on void to Ukraine Volcker and as of Congress a CO equal branch of government there are four issues that we are looking at least four issues that we are looking at all that go letter together making a process argument not necessarily an argument argument about the facts of what the president said to the Ukrainian leader no yeah they're making an argument that the process taking place on Capitol Hill is not one that they like or support but look what president would like to be impeached so this is not fun for them no definitely not something any president would wanna go through but it is a question of process and really that comes back to the question of do House Democrats need to take a vote take a vote there is no constitutional requirement that we take a vote before launching an impeachment inquiry and she is correct but there is also precedent every previous administration oh blower with no firsthand knowledge who has a bias against the president so you're exactly right you have Republicans here on Capitol Hill sanding a lot lake the administration overnight in that the members of the administration late Tuesday night the Democrats issued a formal subpoena for ambassador sudden to testify they have for depositions and their own witnesses as part of this impeachment inquiry but I can hear Democrats saying they don't need an impeachment inquiry to subpoenas before they go forward with this impeachment inquiry and that's been the talking point coming out of the White House's there's been no vote and so far Nancy Pelosi is able to rebuff those efforts by saying we don't have that has gone through this no fun impeachment process there was a vote on Capitol Hill and that is why the Republicans are arguing that this process is real it's not something that is fair to them if there was a vote and the impeachment process went forward that way it would open up new avenues to the White House when it comes to having lawyers present oversight to use subpoena power to do oversight and especially when you look at someone like ambassador Sunland who was apparently by the look of these text messages a case with the one surrounding the impeachment inquiry we've heard House Democrats emphasize that they will view the failure to comply as a sign of obstruction that subpoena power they've given themselves that rule those rules the house has given them selves those rules a while ago that's not new for investigators up there to do Zabol conversations going on between poets and Z. Referring to the Ukrainian president let's talk a arguing with some of the other ambassadors about what exactly is says and other investigations that are actively ongoing on Capitol Hill that are playing out now in the court process so I think it'll be really interesting to watch how these this have been working for this administration it's been a tactic they used on part of these other investigations subpoena delay and then the court process and so that Pena's related to the impeachment inquiry might play out differently from those other house investigations which also issued subpoenas these ones are due on October fifteenth and every daughter in law passed away only forty six years old incredibly young Oh my gosh this feels like such a blow in that campaign and that family is already impeachment that were brought against Clinton and Nixon both were based on obstruction of justice we have coming up in just a little bit a really interesting interview with the coach that I hope we can get out there is that I want people to pay attention to this symptoms and that was just the beginning then overnight as new news right in the thick of these negotiations with Ukraine I mean there's these text messages that were released earlier that talked about that that shows online saying there's former Ohio state senator Nina Turner who's been all over on national television around the country campaigning for Senator Bernie a really tough week for the Sanders campaign you know in the last few days he's had to answer questions from reporters about his health he made it home going on and what's being asked that statement there is no quid pro quo coming after one of the other ambassadors and Ukraine made a question of if there was that was issued on Friday there's another active one for the White House that's just around the impeachment inquiry but how long have we been talking about subpoenas when it comes to things like the president's tax was more fatigued I usually have been so I should have listened to those symptoms I should have listened to those symptoms so if there's any message wasn't close to his family this daughter in law that passed was extremely close to him his son was someone that was by his side all the time day in and day out hard for him to be out there campaigning but he is also a crusader he is a fighter it is also hard for me to imagine him pausing and festival was dumped I was born in thank God that I have a lot of energy and you know during this campaign I've been doing it background and in fact often really pushed back on campaign staff that wanted him to run a more personal campaign you can speak to this extensively to Vermont there he's been resting up more since his heart attack and an emergency procedure with his heart he said on camera admitting to reporters are most on the campaign trail he would alight up when those grandkids would get flown into spend a few days with him on the campaign trail I remember watching Hin unstop says he deals with his family and personal issues the senator isn't one too often talk about his family he's not that kind of candidate he doesn't run ads. Licensed professional counselors specialized in a wide array of issues like depression anxiety and grief connect with your professional counselor in a safe private online early struggling and it'll be really interesting to hear how campaign is rallying around him to really step in and fill the void that some might be feeling from him not going one hundred ten miles an hour on these campaign Bro quo right so he he's in a think of it he's he's texting with the other embassador about this very question about the role that the president wants Ukraine government to play it's really a question of where this is going to come down remember it's not just a subpoena they've issued for selling Gordon who is an ambassador there's also a current active one for secretary of State Mike pompeo trick or treat with with these grandkids arm in arm hand in hand back in two thousand fifteen his family is everything it will be environment it's a truly affordable option and listeners can get ten percent off your first month by going to better help dot com slash powerhouse fill out a questionnaire and and that would give them more leverage in those subpoenas than perhaps the other investigations yeah they might go ahead and just say that one of the articles of impeachment is obstruction of there's GonNa be a lot of is on whether or not he does go to the debate that's next week like his campaign says he's plans to do so we'll be back in just a moment with that interview candidates fast that's why you need indeed dot Com post a job in minutes set up screener questions then zero in on qualified candidates using an intuitive online dashboard and when you need help them assess your needs and get matched with a counselor you'll love when it comes to hiring you don't have time to waste you need help getting to your shortlist of qualified to hire fast accelerate your results with sponsor jobs new users can try for free at indeed dot com slash powerhouse that's indeed dot com slash powerhouse terms or get some of those like cutesy shots him his grandkids and it just wasn't it wasn't his Mo it wasn't what interested him but that wasn't because he has happened to him physically and then the family by extension this has been difficult so anybody you know well wishes prayers if you pray but just really sending out those positive that we are looking forward to former Ohio senator state Senator Nina Turner who is one of those very vocal advocates for Bernie Sanders campaign better help offers aces three or four rallies a day wanting to state bio and a Hampshire Weber and yet I in the last month to just welcome to power house politics I'm ABC's Deputy Political Director Maryalice parks and ABC News correspondent Serena Marshall and you're additions and quality standards apply and welcome back to powerhouse politics were happy and lucky to be joined by a close friend and adviser to Senator Bernie Sanders the national pain co-chair Nina Turner Sunder Turner. Thanks for joining us. Thanks for having me it's been a really tough time and I know that just over the weekend he lost so you were out on the campaign trail with him twenty sixteen th I would watch the campaign sometimes argue with him about wanting to tell more personal as sanders both in two thousand sixteen and twenty twenty she's really made a name for herself by being one of his most ardent and vocal supporters you know we're gonNA WE'RE GONNA get this a little bit it's but unders Levy and the entire Sanders family and then by extension so thank you both so much and ABC family for recognizing this difficult time is campaign he is not going to like doing that he likes going full steam ahead I mean I remember days where he would do five or six rallies and they're the sanders sanders is a private man but is just so close to those grandkids they they're pals his life as you justice in their minds it'll be like you said very important to watch how the courts way in and if Democrats wait for the court away a wedding we should move is why now the the previous beggar rallies he stands up there for an hour he has so much energy normally I mean how is he going to adjust his campaign going to have to look different senator lost his daughter-in-law and he's I feel for you all and we're thinking about you thank you so much and news came to the family as he was and what's being asked and and are they on the same page I democrats are like we want to talk to Him we get to talk to him but really Maryalice we can look back and subpoena and now the the Sanders clan is a close one and I remember meeting Levy and his family and his adorable children on the campaign trail several times football for the senator and his family will really go along with I was struck by something he said yesterday he said that he might have to change the nature of his you know making his way out of the hospital so it has been a very very heavy time for him the family you know him and about James Fan Oh maryalice because you have been so close with the senator over the years and you know they're part of his motivation for doing what he does so yeah between you know what he's going to have to adjust he has said that it is going to be very difficult for him because he is you know I that long distance runner in him still very much there but even him you know scaling back is still light years ahead of what most campaigns are doing so he will still the go outrun outpace and run circles around the other campaigns and his activities but I understand your point for somebody like him who is so accustom all of our candidates using an online dashboard get started today at indeed dot com slash powerhouse that's indeed dot com slash powerhouse Bernie Sanders I I want people to wrap their minds around you have a medical emergency and it doesn't matter that he's a public figure it doesn't matter most of it himself there's been a lot of questions from critics about whether he's been transparent enough about his health and this big health scare you've been he have an obligation to all those million donors to voters that he's asking them for his support for this huge job which is weekly demanding doesn't have an obligation to be pretty transparent about the status of his health there's nobody more transparent running for president first and foremost he is a human being he's a man flesh and blood person who had a medical emergency your first thought it's ridiculous for people to think in those terms as soon as we knew what the doctors were fan as soon as doctor James Sanders was able to get to her husband the first home given this tough time being in the campaign is that going to change with the trauma that the family loss well thank you for that this release came out about the sense about the clock artery you know more tests and things are done and then we had a statement from Dr James Sanders and then ultimately eighty nine states of America but people like me and the other National Co chairs you know mayor crews Ro Khanna brother Ben Cohen Right they're defending him like you always are you said I saw one interview where he said that was ridiculous and Asinine Senator Turner doesn't like you to come out and inform the public of what's happening considering if he did win this mega responsibility of being president it would be it can withdraw from some things from the bank so to speak and senator it's not just scaling back for his own health but with his family as well I'm sure they need him at Donovan Bailey transparent will continue to be but senator let me ask you this it was about what three days bef- between that health emerged Z. and the statement even his family recognizably cannot stop what they're doing in the case of a medical emergency notify the press wouldn't that be up to folks our around the senator like a campaign family should do when you're principle need you even more so we will work even harder Selena I mean everybody's GonNa have to do more when I when I say that I mean everybody's working extraordinarily hard working to make senator sanders the forty six everybody who knows and understands him loves him whether you agree with him or not but just understand that he is a man on a mission will be very supportive of this move on I thought of your wife the first part of your children is not to say wait let me stop you know my medical emergency let me pause for commercial break so I can notify the media and for the senator particularly me I mean I've been traveling all over the country certainly focused a lot of my time on South Carolina but I will be going into other states even more so we're just GonNa what we consider a timely fashion and the senator has been interviewing ever since he's had been released as we all know so we did what was necessary it is absolutely the right thing for him to do and he doesn't have to do all this he's been out on this is you know he's never stopped campaigning he has never so he has toppled pat I've been consistent courageous and transparent all of his public life it was a health emergency got the information out in we have been working on it we'll do it in a way that really complements the senator in a deeper way especially for the forward facing work he is so accustomed to doing fatema for from the doctor those things are not unreasonable so for people and I'm not saying you two are doing that but there are forces out there that WANNA paint that the senator has not been transferred and all of the other National Sarah gets the people who are typically are more the forward facing we're GONNA have to do more to be forward facing get in front of his family on matters like this so if people want to you know so call hold this against the senator let them do that but it is ridiculous and I think it is something that is the senator and the age of the other top contenders in the Democratic Party do think that now considering he's had this scares something that voters are going to be worried every single one of them span the gamut from early seventies late seventies we as a nation try to push unofficial it would be the right of the public to know what's going on medically public was informed and in a timely fashion so I'm pushing back on that informed in in a timely fashion and a very public fashion it is certainly not the campaigns job your should the campaign ever would never didn't in front of Dr James Sanders we'd never making a non issue I mean here we have a president in office right now who you know allegedly broke into the offices not him himself but since people break into the office about they shouldn't worry about that age is nothing but a number the senator has a as you as you pointed out all of the top tier candidates are in their seventies back although we got a long way to go or sexism and racism long way to go and ageism is in that category too so to do so people to complete this and make more of this than what it is so moving past the timeline question of timeliness given the age of this is of his position we still don't know what his health condition is because it's the best ever of everything that he says and then people want to overlay on a man no one should worry about that at all unless we're trying to say that once you get to a certain level of Asian your life you don't have a right to continue to do good work so if they're electing somebody who has now a heart valves you mentioned old no they should not worry worry whatsoever by President Elizabeth Warren now says that she to like Senator Bernie Sanders will absolutely not do traditional big money fundraisers even in general election if she four were thinking if you've got the nomination for that now for you to to really four particularly my senator be about his age he is a truthful man he's authentic people know him for that that is the strongest quality of his reputation is don't want a next generation of people saying that we should say down somewhere so no people should not worry about that if the person is has the by Paletti you know the it's his authenticity and he will be always open and honest and if the senator could not continue to do this race and give it his all he would not be doing it because and do what you believe is in the best interests of this nation and I know no one is saying that if we are live all we will be in our early seventies and I'm sure we certainly if nature takes his course the likelihood we understand that but it's not just the put some label on the seventy somethings that are running and make all that they're running we've made that decision when that when that time comes but I don't want people to worry you know Babies Die People Dying Twenties Thirties forties I'd love this country so much which is why he's putting it all on the lot so no I don't think people should worry not just about my senator but I am against ageism altogether point two is the fact that not only is she but every single one of the presidential nominees to a degree whether they want to admit it or not because of the curb for it to be nominated what's your reaction I'm glad he's following the lead of Senator Bernard Sanders is getting harder to draw comparisons and distinction Khalip system all of those things came to a national light in ways we have not seen since Eugene dibbs for our listeners though who may be happy bigger the heart the capacity to do this great work to let them do it in the voters will decide no there's nothing to worry about they worried Sir Bernie Sanders and all other candidates want to be president but there's only one candidate up there who has been consistent you could roll the tape we all know that he has been the poor and the working class and the middle class in this country and that they can have it all senator courage conviction consistency the multi millionaires and billionaires and to take their campaign to the people and the raise money that way so whether we're talking about raising money through the grass roots and I'm glad that the senator the distance runner for justice for a very long time I would challenge listeners to go back and Dexter position the records of all of the candidates you know precinct from the same hymnal for well over forty years right now there's only one candidate who has the courage I mean he has an anti endorsers list the last campaign the senator has changed the narrative and just think about that the have Senator Warren come out and say that really is a beautiful thing and what and there is no candidate more position to win over independent boulders then Senator Sanders so we will continue to talk about these issues in ways that touched p the candidate has an anti endorsed lists full of billionaires and multimillionaires who went on the record that they do not want Senator Bernie Sanders to become president national centerpiece of his campaign he didn't pay big dollars and twenty sixteen he kept that same fervor during this election and now the other candy among independence you don't think he's going to have to secede the fact that many people don't WanNa lose the health insurance they currently have in that could work against him of the United States of America and you know why they don't because they know that things are going to fundamentally change them so that we can raise up the Internet for you I was reading rates getting through the primary the senator has been talking about it for a very long time needed before we let you go regardless of what happens with impeachment do you think the fact that president trump has now has a pretty consistent drumbeat about the vice president's family and has been very aggressively and personally going after or it's in the consistency that Senator Bernie Sanders have they're all running on the Gospel according to burn our sanders anything in this country that you want to do and not worry about losing your job or not worry about having to pay the high cost of prescription drugs those things matter I don't know why because nobody really is in love with their health insurance company they love their doctors and to the extent that they do down in between the two of them no it's not an and the voters will draw those distinctions but one of the things in America Mary Alice you know there's even more because you were with us was heart so that they can see the light bursts the the messages that are coming from the people in the insurance industry that do not want to see Medicare for all happened in this country Medicare for all is the better way to go and we will continue to have conversations as you know the senator does not change his mind I don't WanNa make this is not just about you know Senator Elizabeth Warren then Sanders is in competition or let me rephrase that or the other candidates are competition Vince family could that hurt Biden if he's the eventual Democratic nominee could you know but you know Senate president trump got some nerve you've got lots of nerve accident Bernie Sanders and we can lay his record head to head with any of the candidates he didn't equivocate on Medicare for all he didn't call it a framework he's standing strong for Medicare for all which is the founding a bit if they want to be able to democratic electorate in particular they gotta move where he moves that Medicare is very contentious especially Though that if I may interject you think though that as Democrats there should be more unity around pushing back on these claims by the president as Senator Warner has seen the light that is a beautiful thing because it's beautiful for democracy or whether it is about Medicare for all cancer student standing up against you know the both of US Senator Sanders plan that takes all of that away we put money in global pot and nobody has to pay anything upfront that you can do uh-huh Croats from the DNC for example there's been some criticism that they haven't really stepped up to the plate to counterpunch the narrative coming from the RNC in an effective manner we already know that you know corrupt if he is I mean he he didn't drain the swamp the attitude has been profited from that office so has the members of his family he does is not one of them right now has as fellow Democrats should Senator Sanders speak out more forcefully against the President Should Elizabeth Warren senator we now have a difficult time drawing that distinction what would you tell them are the big differences got the senator has been you know my brother Dr Coordinator with alone fashioned what it shows is that the power of his movement you know shall inch Democratic presidential candidates not to bow down at the trough it was interesting she kept using language like the gospel of Bernie Sanders and she's really out there preaching his story still preaching his story doubling down that he will we're running for president they're running for president we'll see what happens ultimately whether the happy family come together but are single focus right now is is making Senator Sanders if it's based on what polls say this is what he fundamentally believes he is believed it for a very long time and lots of people who believe in no that is true be the next forty six president and you know we wish their family all obviously all the best given this difficult time but it seems evident that the senator is not going to more

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Killer Mike on his new show Trigger Warning, Run the Jewels and more

Bullseye with Jesse Thorn

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Killer Mike on his new show Trigger Warning, Run the Jewels and more

"Support for NPR and the following message come from marvel studios. Black Panther now nominated for seven Academy Awards including costume and production. Design score original song all the stars performed by Kendrick Lamar and Ciza and best motion picture. Bullseye with Jesse thorn is a production of maximum fund dot org and is distributed by NPR. I'm Jesse thorn. It's bullseye. The first time I got to chat with my next guest killer. Mike just coming off the release of his solo album. I pledge allegiance to the grind was two thousand seven now Levin or twelve years later he is still on the grind. He's half of the acclaimed rap duo run the jewels alongside LP he's become a well known activist campaigning alongside Bernie Sanders in the last presidential election. And now he has his own Netflix series. It's called trigger warning with killer. Mike. In the show. Mike takes on some of America's most complicated, social issues, and as with everything killer, Mike, he never does it half way. In the first episode Mike tries to spend three days buying using and consuming products that have only come from the black community. It turns out that is really really hard in this scene. Mike rides his BMX bike. He can't find any black owned car companies to the black owned doggone good barbecue in Athens, Georgia there, he meets LP the other half of his hip. Hop duo run the jewels. And this point Mike hasn't really had a meal in quite some time. So he is very excited to finally find something to eat that meat his rules. Yeah. Here we go black hole restaurant back all by Lacombe produce and meet probably right from a black farm. What's up? Me, sir. My wife. Ran just reminded me on living so black that I'm technically only supposed to eat meat from a black farm produce. Please tell me like this kind from the west Georgia like black farmers collaborative. No didn't. Now you've go box. Please your good man, Michael render. I gotta be honest with you, really really honestly some of the best barbecue that I've ever had. Why are you still eating is to set the hotel room that I was in last night, some of the Rhone serve, you know, the the lobster? How to last row park. Yeah. That is the literal definition definitional white privilege has a macaroni. The only we'd I've been able to find his trash Mexican we which I can't smoke as Mexican. We his aren't white. You can get roars or why? Like you guys gentrified marijuana yet? We're unstoppable force. That's what all the books. Mike. Welcome to bullseye. It's nice to see you outdoor. Then that they had that all that's what all the books actually comes from me reading guns germs and steel. I feel like that was the line of the show. I watched a number of episodes. I kept thinking back to that's what all the books. How old are you gonna t-shirt vay to say why people want stay woke? Well, Mike, I'm I'm so happy to have you on bullseye. I looked it up. The last time I interviewed you was on the phone, and it was I I was thinking five or seven years ago, but it was actually twelve years ago. A wow. So I guess what have you been up to out? Well, funny thing I I did started in have yet to finish the series of underground car pledge allegiance to the grind I made up to pledge three. Then I may rap music with this interesting GAC name L P from Brooklyn, formerly accompany flow. And we developed a friendship and bond that seems to be unbreakable and Trump three classic duo albums clarinet jus one two and three and, you know, by my super station, you have to be for album for classic albums and before you officially group and that that's worthy of being talked about. So we're working on the Jews four and secure in our place in in with Allah. You know, rap music history. And so how did you end up in run the Joel's because run the jewels is aesthetically very different from the records that you were making the last time, I interviewed you. Yeah. But I don't think anyone who's born who's been born is better equipped arapahoe. Vail PBS in me. And I think that it was just a matter of me, an L P finding one another, and you know, how in in in any mythology. The hero must go on this this journey of this quest. And you end up finding yourself as you burn off all things, you know. I think that when I came in the music industry. I had a feeling about the music I wanted to make because even the stuff I made thing. I mean, my deal was more in last run the jewels in the stuff you ended up here make in the beginning. But I think it was about finding my way to the Eleanor finding ourselves in a way where once we found each other. We were absence of ego after the expectations and just kind of open to make dope. You also grown adults. Yeah. Exactly. But that's where the ego expectation. Mike when you're young you have expectations in your ego is often getting in the way of your creativity and your growth, so yeah, we were adults thirty five years old. I mean L P had run a record label that put out some really important record. Yeah. Absolutely. The record label was done. You had been signed to a major yet out of record on a major. You started your own record label like you had been through NANDA you've been through the wringer by then. Yeah. Yeah. And and so when you get there, you know, it's like cloud Drexler going to Houston. Mike, I've spent all this time being great in Portland. And nobody was watching trailblazer. Ball at that time. And now I mean Houston and now speak L of Kevin Duckworth. No, I got no problem with Trump plays. I've just simply saying Traxler in Houston. Brought those rings home, you know, and run a gills that we are. We are kicking left. And right. That's what we're going to continue to do hopefully restaurant career. How did you meet L P? I know of his work in peripheral. But. I don't think it's important to clarify like I love east coast the sound of east coast. I'm all hip hop. Nerds are homage goes back to east coast music. So it wasn't hard for me to love his music and stuff once exposed. But are we had a mutual friend and Jason DeMarco who's a fan of both of us, and he works at adult slim, and he put us together. He gave me an opportunity to make rap music to essentially just make the music. I always wanted to make without commercial expectations. Just make the wreckage always wanted to make LP was supposed to do three beats. I got in a raft. Over three beats. I decided this guy supposedly producer for me. He was making the album. I was like that you're producing the whole album too. It's Larry that the first record. There was this weird period where adult swim a sub television network television sub network whatever half of a television network, they put out a I remember they put out a witch doctor album. Yeah. But I was like comp- utterly baffled at the idea that the guys from squid Billy's. No, no, offense, the squid Bill. He's funny. We're like. Oh, yeah. And also we we're trying to bring flying Lotus around. Well, Jason is is amazingly good at picking TV programming. Right. But Jason has a musical ear. That's amazing. You know, Jason is a you know, he's he's versus listenership and because he's a pure fan. And he doesn't have any aspirations of being a music executive. He only puts together this stuff because it's dope. You know, he put killing Mike and fly low this together when we did swimming. He put me in L P together and thought you guys could potentially make something Tope. So you know, I say that just to say to all the fans out there. Like, your your dreams your imaginations, you know, the the come true so follow whatever you're passionate about whatever you're good at. And if you get an opportunity to hook up, a super producer and amazing rapper do that too. Because chasing did it without expectations. He just did it. And and now you have run the tools when your first album came out and didn't do very well. Yeah. Was. There a time when you thought you there you might have to find something else to do with your life. Well, relatively speaking not do very well in the early two thousands of selling light three to five hundred thousand records if descends sales ten million records. Right. You know what I'm saying? So not doing very well fifteen years removed is amazing. You know, they're celebrating artist going gold again. But you know, for me what I what I consider this. Maybe I'm not built for this commercial rack, I was going to be a rapper is all I wanted to do. And because I went to Texas and met people like little flipping hump Powell and committee Nair slim thug, and I saw the independently you could make your way. Now what I wasn't prepared for the death of CD's increase streaming and stuff, but I can't say things like my space. Facebook later, I g Twitter have helped me in my independent career to grow. So I knew I was going to be wrapping. And when I wanted to quit. My wife was like this is what you were put on earth to do when you're going to keep doing it. So for the two years, I got really now and really beat up in depressed. You know, didn't get out of bed. Didn't take full advantage of it. It wasn't doing. You know, it was just having a great wife that was kicking me saying you gotta do this. And that's what brought us to pledge allegiance to the grind to pledge allegiance to the grind three later rap music. Speaking of my space, how much of your success, would you attribute to having your interview with me from twelve years ago up on your my space for a long time? Lots of. I'm not gonna say majority, but like thirty percents early days that that, you know, having those things are big looks like people people don't understand how much the interview, and how much people who are on that side of the Mike that a firm believers and helped us their platform expose the talent. When it does if it wouldn't have been for those interviews, and if it wouldn't have been for things like my space, and what I call the pledge heads people that have followed my career all the way through the pledge allegiance series until run the jewels. And I wouldn't be here. Some very appreciative for those days very appreciative for that core group of fans in particular when you went to college which you did for what a year year and a half. Yup. Did you think that you your career was going to be as an MC or did you? I mean, I dropped out in chase of the rap thing. You know, once I got once I got attached to the big boy them in the new could do it. I decided to pursue it full speed. But I shouldn't have done that should have stayed in college because I ended up getting to deal around the same time graduate. So that if I have a regret that's regret. I went to Morehouse I'll let you guys Google that's a pretty prestigious college. So I you know, I should have stayed in. But I didn't and with that said, you know, I can go back, and I will, but I should've stayed in. So the kids that are out there that are passionate about smart enough to get into it. Stay and not just because of the education gives us saying that's gonna save you the networking opportunity. You haven't college the people you're gonna meet and whether gonna go, you know, if you're good to them, you built it networks. It just makes your transition to whatever you're gonna do easier. How did you meet big? Boy, I'm a big boy because his good friend went to Morale's also see low Radic from savannah and his brother went to Moore's round, and we were all little homeys. And we all wanted to make music to when we were trying to impress. James, his big, brother. I can imagine you were trying to impress me. It was. Basically, the certainly the king of Atlanta hip, hop at the time and one of the kings of his. That time and still has big boy has not stopped working at this point his solo careers longer than as outcasts career. That's that's amazing. When you think about it? You know what? I mean, I'm I'm incredibly impressed by his work ethic. And you know, he plays over one hundred people, you know, through touring and through through our studio and things of that nature like he's one of the most focused businessmen, and emcees I've ever come across. I try to model myself after him. Did you pass the tape or CD or did you not every person every priest out in? I wasn't pressuring them. I was pressing up my own stuff working my butt off and rock D. The guy who brought kryptonite to be is an amazing MC on the he's also the guy that you indicate jail doing a little pattern. You know? Hold up. Listen, just like I told CoCo is campaign. That's rocky Mirak d you were messed around freestyle and big was getting his hair braided by Princess from praises palace writers. And he was like y'all I like you and get your deal. Now, it's like our free shaded row in house. Like, I still got a pound or eat them. I gotta sale. Out saying I went back to focusing on that, and you know, like a year year or two later, he called me like a really wanna do it. Let's get it. How old were you like twenty? Might have been twenty three twenty four. I mean, twenty three or twenty four is old for a rapper getting a deal. The definitely was it. Now, not so much. But yeah, because what they do you at twenty four hundred twenty two twenty one. But you know, I didn't care. How old I was like I don't care now. I don't think about my. I've had that discussion with stacks before me, Android. Talk him just saying, you know, just trying to see the younger guys doing just, you know, his, and he'll feel a certain way. Sometimes, you know, he say, I'm just like mouth feel no way. But like when I get in the room. I wanna have the dopey style in the room. You know? So my whole thing is I I guess out of voided they can about my age because I've always wanted to to style. You know, if you hear me on different tracks different features with different people. I probably am one of at least a top ten wrappers in terms of being able to style flip depending on what beat you know, what I mean. And I've always taking pride in that. Because it's not easy. So for me age dies would style. Like e forty is ageless to me because his style is ageless pandering to me now now forty waters, what's up like you? I'm from Atlanta like Atlanta's the bay area part deuce like, you know, what I'm saying. Like too short forty. You know what I mean? Like, we grew up on this on some players. So for for me, like his style is it's literally timeless, you know, what I mean? Scarface. Who I've considered the greatest rapper of all time style was Tomlin. So that's what I would rather be time list. And and really think about age. When you came out, you came out with Outkast big boy signed, you you won a Grammy for one of the first records that you may that came out. Yeah. An outcast song. Yeah. That must have been incredibly heady because that was outcast at the height of artistic and commercial powers both. Yeah. Absolutely. Absolutely. It was a trip, you know, because. You know, you have to reconcile this is not your record. So the Grammy you're on. But with that said I recognize I wasn't just a benefactor. Good luck. I've ripped up. I you sure did. I remember in. I remember being in my dorm room watching MTV to had of the music videos on it watching that video. And it was like, oh who's that? Dude. He just ripped it. Yeah. That's is very proud of myself then. And now I wish I would have went to ceremony then 'cause I want and we did it because I think Jay had us protests in that year because they want showing her avid division. And then when I went to the Grammys last year because we were nominated for the chase me song we didn't win. So when I didn't go I want when I went I did that was really sad. More from my conversation with killer. Mike after a quick break. We'll talk about why he supported Bernie Sanders and the state of politics in America. It's bullseye for maximum fund dot org and NPR. Support for this podcast. And the following message comes from Babbel, have you always wanted to speak a new language whether it's for travel, work or brain training. Babbel's ten to fifteen minute lessons will get you. 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That's the beef and dairy network podcasts for maximum fun dot org. Also, maybe at episode one all widdly episode said he sakes, which for some reason requires no knowledge of the rest of the show. It's bulls eye. Jesse thorn, my guest this week is killer. Mike, he's half of run the jewels with his partner L P his latest project trigger warning with killer. Mike is on Netflix. Now when you started working with L P, what was it that clicked for the two of you listening to me on his beats? That's what it is. It's just it sounds like it supposed to be, you know, it's like ice cube over surging speak, or or, you know, or, you know, it's like hearing hearing Chuck over bomb squad beater, even cube over Brown's where I be it just fit. I don't know why I don't waste time questioning why I don't know why my wife more than any other women I've ever loved, you know, I just know there's something so special about her. I can't not love her like that. So I don't question those mysteries. I just go. Oh, and and you know, hopefully one day it won't, you know. I mean, hopefully, it'll never stop. And if it ever does we're just gonna have the most fantastic run. We've ever had were you surprised at how well at work. You must have just done. Day cool thing you were doing out once I once he played play big beats me I and he played another couple of weeks. And I knew then like this guy supposedly making beats for me for the rest of my life. I knew like I fell in love instantly. There was like me, and my wife, I knew within two weeks of knowing and I wanna marry you now we she said, no we spent two three years breaking each other's hearts. You know what I mean? But lemme and L at first he was like, Nah, I can't do it. I do my own album. I'm like knobby, you gotta do this album and aggravated the heck out of them for ninety days. Jason till the till he came to the record. Were you surprised at the number of white people showing up for your work? Well as. I actually that any white person. And there were some of us were showing up before. Yeah. Definitely say I was definitely encouraged by your whiteness. There's I learned from outcast that, you know, the people who you must look like who like you who who you're making music or that even inspired the music, you're making their valuable to you because they they're they're they that's what makes you your community. You know, grows your village, right? But who appreciates you you have no choice in you. Just you gleefully except that appreciation that you sing rapping, Dan. While you have to chance because you're lucky enough to have this job. Right. So as much as the south loved three six mafia and his dopers pollens UCR. You know, I don't know if we'd hear the sounds of imitating three six, mafia. Now, if it wasn't for the white hip Socratic, Williamsburg that somehow rediscovered them and all of a sudden, you'd be walking into max fish here and project, Pat in two thousand thirteen where I know I can hear Pat in Tennessee, Georgia, Alabama, north Florida. But I didn't know Pat was playing Williamsburg. You know what I mean? So you love who loves you and my audience, no matter what color race, creed or religion. They are if they rock and with the raw dirty. That's hip, hop me and L do then that's fine. By me doesn't matter to me. What color you are? I still love you. If you if you love hanging out as much as I do, we probably can kick you when you were campaigning with Bernie Sanders. Oh, gee hin. Couple of years ago when he was running for president I found my when you first started campaigning with him. I found myself thinking like how where did this come from the DJ in this campaign? When they were asked about. Getting black influences from the music world. Does DJ half camera saying, I'll save my life. Unfortunately. But he was adamant about them. Checking our killer might. You know? So the work the work, you know, spoke for me, and he spoke up for me Senator Sanders, and I have to give a lot of credit to Cornell west at the time. It was a part of it who cosign me and in a bigger bigger bigger just shout. Thanks and gratitude to former Senator out of Ohio, Nina Turner, who now read leads our revolution. She is a Shirley Chisholm time. She's an absolutely Deming dynamic politician advocate on behalf of the people of the more powerful. Organizers mobilizes I've ever seen and should be naturally talked about by people who are members of the Democratic Party. They don't understand why she's not. But I'm gonna do everything I can yell her name. But she's the person that really kept me engaged after I saw, you know, the DNC sabotaged while I thought was a campaign that could have defeated Trump after I've seen them make, you know, poor decisions afterwards, you know, in terms of if you wanna accept him your party and Nadia like him or not you can't say didn't electrify. The democratic vote in millennials. You can't say that his policy has not affected the greater fabric. It has in everything from marijuana law to on the raising of minimum wage across the nation as as we're seeing eye to a grand or push for Medicare for all. So the oh, gee nudity was doing. And I think that Senator Turner was a very big part of the reason I stayed engaged. And is a very big part of reason, I'm still engage locally and nationally. So I look for her hopefully to do something, you know? I don't know. What's next? But she's one of the people who admires tender Sandra's. I like everyone else within our revolution would love to see him running in twenty twenty. I don't think anyone else. That's going to beat them is going to beat the current guy in there. I think to put out fire you need water. You know, I think that the only way you get magneto officers have professor x, you know. So we'll we'll see what happens. I think a lot of people see in that movement the possibility that issues. Having to do with race issues having to do with the unique experiences, particularly being African American in this country, but any ethnic category other than why. Yeah. Certainly can be subsumed into class rhetoric. Yeah. And ignored was that something that you were worried about it's not that I worry about because we are allowed to argue rights in this country because racist polarizing, and we all belong to a tribe. Right. So whether you're ethnic white or black or a descendant of a slave African American or an African American that's an immigrant, you get chopped up and all these things that caused extreme arguments. But if we spent as much time talking about John Brown schools, as we do Robert Lee how the radically different how relationships between black and white kids who both porn West Virginia be different one, Ohio different. How does that start to change? How the solidarity start to change? Amongst people. Don't look like each other. And how does that change for government are people harder to control when they understand? Yes. We are different people. So I want to look pass rates or I don't see race. I don't hit. Yes. A lot. I don't look past rice and see a white man in front of me with a glorious beard, and and have access you also have a glorious. Thank you, sir. But I also see an ally. You know what I mean? And that's what matters most, you know, if we are at war for our very freedoms and lives, no words, one without allies and to too tightly cling to my tribe, and the tribal 'isms that we have makes me less likely to be cooperative in collaborate with others that also have my best interests or the better interest of us. All so I try my best not to let it get in the way. I worry that we all let it get in the way too much and instead of arguing issues of class that can be one by us, all we end up all suffering more because we get baited into something that's race that you know, it feels like rice goes on black. But. Also is gonna feel like poverty, you know, if you're north Georgia Hawaii and all it's unfair either way. But I can't think just because it's my tribe us just us. We all serve the same Astor's. We all have the same enemies outside our studio behind my desk. You know, six feet from here is poster that my mom bought me at the flea market for dick Gregory's presidential campaign. Okay. Dig Gregory who was. Oh, there you go. One of the most important stand up comics of the nineteen sixty. Yes, quit quit show business. Yes. And spent the next fifty or so years as an activist. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. I got a chance to see him. Thanks to my sister's Zo who's like a sister to me. She's a amazing woman lesbian woman. Chicago amazing. She manages stand up comics in acts, and she had me and TI get on the phone with him about three years ago in curses out really badly tip hung up. Call me back later and say, what did he say how many? But we went to see him at a show have a friend in him in for the last three years of his life was very good friend and one wells wise, and smart, and brilliant man and personally knew Malcolm and Martin and maker, and we'll just about the work of freeing people and not just black people a free in people's minds and like Carlin like Bruce like Bill Hicks like prior before him. I mean, a lot of people aren't even before him. But Justice also comedians. He did a lot more to enlighten me that it's easier to teach people that's only start coming back and doing so comedies. Always actually hand him. Take him around. Trigger? Warning. I knew it work. I'll even though I was nervous. I knew it was woodwork. When people understood Mike is funny. He satirical, he has a farce of sense of humor. And he's you know, people who know me know, Michael, no, he's always saying this. He's always pushing the lab I seen what if it. I knew if people got that part the work. So I'm thankful for Mr. Gregory for sure me twenty temple, you know, by watching him. I got a chance to just see him in regular conversation. He'd say stuff in this open your oh. Oh, and that's that's all I want to do with the show to keep people to create conversation and to be open from different perspectives. Well, Mike, I'm so grateful to you for taking all this time to be on bullseye. It was nice to see you. I love the show. Thank you. 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Interview with Kellyanne Conway about the Kavanaugh testimony and FBI investigation; Interview with Senate Judiciary Democrat Amy Klobuchar; State of the Cartoonion: is gut-wrenching testimony a marketing opportunity?

State of the Union with Jake Tapper

46:57 min | 2 years ago

Interview with Kellyanne Conway about the Kavanaugh testimony and FBI investigation; Interview with Senate Judiciary Democrat Amy Klobuchar; State of the Cartoonion: is gut-wrenching testimony a marketing opportunity?

"Hi, it's Lisa Ling. I am so excited about this season. We explore such a diverse array of topics. So please join me for another incredible journey BRUCE'S life with Lisa Ling Sundays at ten pm on CNN. Deeply divided after all the emotion, anger and tears. The question still hangs over judge, Brad Kavanagh. Did he do it? One hundred percent. I've never sexually assaulted anyone Kavanagh's biggest backer knowledge in professor Ford's braver. I thought her testimony was very compelling without conceding inch. I don't need a backup setting up a medicine week counselor to the president. Kellyanne Conway standing by search for truth after a day of intense drama. What are you hiding? What is he afraid of Democrats? Finally, at the FBI investigation, they've been demanding who might the FBI interview? What might they find? Dude, this committee Senator Amy klobuchar, just moments away, culture, clash, a national debate playing out in the halls of congress, telling me that myself natter this hill, how will the passions on both sides impact the midterms now, just five weeks away. Hello. I'm Catherine launching ten with the state of our union is searching for answers both judge, Brad, cavenaugh, and professor Christine Blasi Ford say they are utterly convinced they are telling the truth, but both cannot be one hundred percent accurate. Now, the FBI has until the end of the week to investigate current credible allegations per the Senate Judiciary committee. The FBI already is reaching out to witnesses and intends to interview key witness Mark, judge Kavanagh's high school friend whom Ford said was in the room. When Cavanaugh allegedly assaulted. Her Cavanaugh denies that the probe comes after public allegations made by three women. Ford Bevere Ramirez. In third woman, Julie sweat, the FBI is contacted Ramirez, but there's no indication that the f. b. i. plans to speak sweat, Nick. At this point, Saturday, President Trump said the FBI has free rein to investigate cavenaugh, but at a rally in West Virginia, the president also firmed his support for the judge and cast the confirmation fight as part of a larger battle. But for judge Kavanagh's also vote to reject the ruthless and outrageous tactics of the democrat party mean obstructionists mean resistors for the last eighteen months. Democrats have spent every minute trying to overturn the results of the last election. Joining me now is counsel to President Trump. Kellyanne, Conway, Kellyanne. Thank you so much for being here. We appreciate so clear up something for us because there's a lot of questions about what the f. b. i. has been instructed to look into the Senate has asked them to look into quote, current credible allegations. That's kind of vague or at least subjective. I know the president has said the f. b. i. has free rein. What direction has the White House, whether it's counts, White House, counsel, Don Mcgann, or someone else given the FBI. What are the contours of this investigation? Is you now it will be limited in scope. It's meant to last one week, I believe, beginning last Friday, and it will not meant to be a fishing expedition. The FBI is not. Tasks doing that here. And as Joe Biden pointed out twenty seven years ago during the Clarence Thomas hearings and as many people have pointed out the last couple of weeks, Jake, the FBI does not draw conclusions. It provides information as you know, judge Cavin has gone through six zero vets within the span of his public service career, including one that was completed. This last July that is on the desk of every single Senator to review. Just generally look at actions that a person is taken after they turn eighteen allegations are when there's when he was seventeen, has the FBI been been told don't look into Julie's Wettin accelerations. We don't find them credible. The White House is not getting involved in the FBI investigation. In that way, the president very much respects the independence of the FBI and feels as he said last night that they should be looking at anything that they think is credible within this limited scope that's up to the FBI. In other words, I'm not involved in those specific converts say. Interview these witnesses, but don't interview these witnesses. Don Mcgann when do that, but I've not talked to him about it. Let me make clear, but he would not. We're not trying to interfere, it's the president who is saying, go ahead and by the way, it's also the Republican senators. As you saw including Senator flake and others who have said, please go forward with this FBI investigation, but their incentive, maybe a little bit different than the Democrats on the judiciary committee who have been screaming and froth in for over a week. Talking about me needed FBI investigation eating FBI investigation is one single vote going to be changed. These Democrats said, well, let's hope. But on the Senate Judiciary committee, that my point is at those who have been saying, but only if there had been FBI investigational passes. At least four senators are up in the air Collins Murkowski mansion and Heitkamp not to mention what whatever Jeff flake decides to alternately, his fate could rest with this decision. So you said that the Don Mcgann as far as you know, has not said interview these witnesses donated these witnesses is the FBI permitted to look into the testimony judge cavenaugh gave as you know, some Democrats that he wasn't honest under oath about the extent of his drinking about other other parts of his testimony. If the FBI fines that he gave answers under oath that were less than forthcoming is that part of the hardworking men avait and men and women of the FBI i. g. their jobs in this case, Jake and they will, they will determine what is what can be included within that scope. Let me go back to something. You said, we'll remind the viewers politely that senators mansion high cont Heitkamp Donnelly of Indiana did vote for no Gorsuch for confirmation it within this same political term in they're running for reelection. That is relevant if they want to listen to the voters within their own states, able see that the voters do want a supreme court confirmed sooner rather than later. But again, those who are saying FBI investigation FBI message. That was probably the most common thing said by members, democratic members of Senate Judiciary committee, not Cory Booker who talked about me myself and I apparently is three favorite people. Now he's fathering with Warren because she felt in the midst of all this, she had to say, I may. Helps a lot of victims into what President Trump had to say this week about Christine Blasi Ford. I thought her testimony was very compelling and she looks like a very fine woman to very fine woman. It certainly she was a very credible witness. So compelling testimony, fine, woman, credible witness, credible expecting right disappointment in the mainstream media have no feeling one way or the other, but credible means believable. That's the definition of credible. Does President Trump believer, credible and compelling is our words that many of us have used it as scribe her testimony. But she also does. She also didn't corroborate her testimony. The people that she said were at the parties that they weren't that this didn't happen. Capital has said under oath, Andrew's been under his career. It's not exactly accurate. And cavenaugh has said that under oath cabinet cavenaugh says, it didn't happen. Judge says he has never seen him cavenaugh act and doesn't remember it. The other two, he's as Smith. And Kaiser Leland Cuyler Kaiser say they have no memory of it. That's not the same thing as saying it did not forever. Corroborating it's the same thing is not being able to corroborate. I know. They denied it, they refuted it. They didn't all four refuted. They didn't afford deny. They two of them said they have no memory of it, but that's, I can't confirm it. Jake. That sound parse words here just because they can't remember. It also means they haven't confirmed it, and that's what we're saying. But look, I've been I among equals than giving this woman the respect and deference saying, don't ignore it. Socialists, have it be heard judiciary committee, the Republicans, the Senate Judiciary committee, gave her her voice, let her come to Washington testify if it up to the Democrats who sat on this information sat on that letter, they're the ones who've made her a household name. They're the ones who caused her in front of the whole world twenty million viewers to become a household name to become recognizable. Now, even to people who support her life will never be the same believer. He finds her credible. Does that mean find your believable founders estimated to be credible and compelling. Judge? Kevin himself said something that we've all said, he said under oath and I'll say it again here they both could be right that something truly awful happened to her in the summer of nineteen eighty-two by someone somehow somewhere and that judge Cavanaugh was not involved. That's part of Jennifer. Jennifer faulty. It's also possible that his memory is faulty. Do you believe that somebody who drinks a lot has never ever had a memory loss the next day? Not even a short one. Asked me a general question about drinking and blacking you want me to ascribe to judge? No, I'm asking you as. Generally sure. As goes judge Cavin. He testified under oath that he doesn't recall ever blacking out or drinking to excess where he was. You can go back and pull his testament. This is about this is about this man. Excuse me. Let's go back to the beginning because we are losing sight of what this is, what this is not. This is. No, no, no, it's not. They're not. He committed a crime that's nobody has filed a crime in Montgomery County. The Rachel Mitchell whom the Republicans brought in sex crimes prosecutor from Arizona told the senators. It's been reported at cleaning by CNN and others. I hope that she said, if this record of while you couldn't prosecute this, there's not enough evidence. So nobody's being accused of. This is also not a meeting of the movement. Okay. If we're having a watershed moment in this country. Great. But I see doing big town halls with victims of rape and sexual assault and sexual harassment. Sort of like here it is plop it and then we move on. There's a school shooting talk about, we move townhall on sexual harassment with it, but I want you to take a. But I want you to take this. A classmate of judge cavenaugh from Yale tickle, listen. There had to be a number of night where he does not remember. In fact, I was witness to the night that he got tapped into that fraternity and he was stumbling drunk in a ridiculous costume saying, really dumb things, and I can almost guarantee that there's no way that he remembers that night. Do you have any concerns the judge cavenaugh in a serving that even though he has been a heavy drinker in high school and college at times his assertion that he has never ever have any memory loss. The next day taste the David concerns that that's not true. I didn't go to college him. I've never been out in training with him. This is what he said under oath, and that's. Woman a Republican, and she says that she doesn't believe, okay. She doesn't believe him and many people do, including the one hundred women who still stand with him. Many of whom didn't vote for President Trump who nominated Brett cavenaugh a number of them who, frankly, Democrats, and we'll tell you that have been out there writing beds, giving sworn testimony. Why does that matter to anybody? Not a single parent who's young daughters judge Cavill has coached in basketball has come forward and said, you know what, I now have second thoughts. So we can cherry pick people's comments all day long. While I was waiting to come on an interview this morning. I was looking over the shoulder one of your researchers who had a very rough tweet up about somebody basically trying to recount for Dr Ford things that they had done together. Do you remember this? Christine, threatening her on Twitter? So you're always going to find somebody to try to impune the integrity of either cavenaugh or Ford. That is not what this is about. This is about whether or not this man and his impact. Judicial temperament and qualifications twelve years on the second highest court in this country is qualified to be on the United States preen court. What you saw the other day, even though it wasn't actual disgrace which is a Senate Judiciary confirmation hearing it is not a criminal or civil proceeding, and let me just say also is not a meeting of the me too movement. I feel very empathetic, frankly, for victims of sexual assault, sexual harassment, and rape that. I'm victim of sexual assault. I don't expect judge Cavanaugh or Jake tapper or Jeff flake or anybody to be held responsible for that. You have to be responsible for your own conduct. I, this is not Bill Cosby. Those those comparisons on your network or disgrace and the anchor should've called him out. This is not even Bill Clinton. You have Senate Judiciary committee members refuse to remove Bill Clinton from office actor. He received oral sex in the Oval Office and lied about it to a grand jury as president United States. The hypocrisy is ridiculous, and if not one Senate Judiciary committee member changes his or her vote, because what they learned from the investigation that tells you all you need to know about with the president and judge Cavill has has said as a sham. Let's just be honest with this. It's all partisan politics. All women can't. I want those women who who who were sexually assaulted, they who are confronting Jeff flake. God bless them, but go blame the purpose of the first one. The first one is responsible. Sexual sought of people who commit the first time is the first time I've ever heard you talk about something personal like that. And I'm really sorry I've just had it. I'm really sorry that you went what you work for a president who says that all the women who've accused him are lying. There've been a number of people and don't complete that with this and certainly don't complete it with what happened to make. Can you. A huge relating it to not always bring Trump into everything that happens in his universe. That's mistake. One resident Trump's at his personal experiences of informed view of. That's the only reason I bring that out. He was asked about that and he said, yes, it informed how I look at it because I've been, I've had so many false allegations against me. That's what he said. So my question is server of this. Again, I'm deeply personally very sorry about whatever pain you've gone through, but but does that not make you think when you when you hear somebody like professor Ford or or other people make allegations? Does that not make you think these women need to be heard? And even if there are not corroborating witnesses, that is not absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. Chunk they should all be heard, and they should be heard in courts of law. They should be heard depositions. They should be heard in proceedings. Those who who can prosecute those who have civil and criminal causes of actions should pursue that. But we do treat people differently who are either the victims or the perpetrators of this based on their politics now in based on their gender. That is a huge stake Americans, a huge stake. Don't make the mistake. You wouldn't have the same kind of conversation with your door that you have with your son. And I don't mean to get so personal to you, but I want everybody asked me, what do you think of your daughters? How do you talk to how do I talk to my almost fourteen year old son? This is judge having on now this judge Cavanaugh now it could be anybody by next week respectfully could be any man in any positional. What would be the defense? It was thirty six years ago. What would be the defense? There was nobody else to crop rate it not good, not. I didn't do it under seventeen conversation. I'm having with my. Conversation I'm having with my. So that's not the conversation I'm having with my son, but we, if we're going to have a national conversation, let's stop judging victims and perpetrators according to their to their who holiday. Work. Al Franken, lost his job. Harvey Weinstein, lost his job. All these members of the media guy. Let's not. Let's not compare Harvey Weinstein or Bill Cosby. You're saying you're saying that society or the media, or someone is is is looking at these things through a political ends. I am pointing to. This week is that way, and it shouldn't be that way. It hasn't been that way in the last year. I, I don't disagree with you about what you're saying about Clinton and his behavior in. And what about those women? There was a huge investigation breath Cavanaugh worked on that investigation very strongly of the opinion that Bill Clinton needed to answer for what he did a liberal. Democratic woman told me this week who supports cavenaugh because she's worked with him for a long time. She said, Kellyanne, I'm so you know, obviously everybody's so either emotionally drained or disgusted depending on the games or both. However, then I feel badly, I'm gonna say it again. I feel badly for with foreign cavenaugh. We said it from the beginning. I know the president feels that way. Everybody's drag. I think the Democrats could all of this just by coming forward earlier and asking Dr Ford and door judge cavenaugh in those private phone call sensitive hearing. So this woman gotta say because of the Republican party and judge Cavin is right. They could vote him down, upper download. Jake can sit in the United States quarter not, but they're not gonna force him to quit. Let me say this to you. Liberal democratic friends. I totally agree with and I had thought about quite the way she did, which is she feels so badly for the way she rolled her eyes and treated people like Paula Jones, one Nita Broderick, and these people in true claims and they were dismissed again. The president, but we are not now where we were. Where we were then, and I interviewed Juanita Broderick, two years ago. So I mean, we are not. We are not as society and we are not as the media where we are. Let me just ask you a final question. You have said that you found credible professor Blasi Ford's compelling, glad she had had her voice. Yes, and I think they could both be right. I think something terrible could have had the same summer Shane fifteen, and that judge Cavanaugh was not involved. And I think that is why you have Warren testimony. That is why you have corroborating evidence if you can find it. And that's why I suppose the FBI will continue to investigate. I big fan of transparency and accountability. So I'm happy, although I think it was torturous for both Ford and Kevin on people should stop using both of them for their own political gains. May I say, but I'm happy that if they were willing to do that, they came forward and testified under oath, but it's kinda matter. The whole thing has to matter has to matter who they've been throughout their lives, who he's been. He's going through six vets. We can't just people are afraid. J. people are frayed that they'll never be able to defend themselves against thirty six year old allegations for one. Results, but they're also as you know, and as I don't need to tell you, there are also people who are afraid that they're going to be sexually less people on Twitter and elsewhere. Right now saying shoes, she worked for downtown. I work for President Trump because he's so good to the women who work for him, and he's so good to the women of this country who are much better off with security and prosperity because of his leadership. So I don't wanna hear it. I don't wanna hear from any preemptive. Message for the Twitter's out there. Kellyanne Conway, thank you for your time. We really appreciate it was a jaw dropping moment. Cavanaugh questioning sending Senator Amy klobuchar about her drinking habits. That's you're asking about blackout. I don't know. Have you, could you into the question judge. We have an exclusive with Senator. 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Slash s. o. t. you ZipRecruiter the smartest way. To hire. You're saying there's never been a case where you drink so much that you didn't remember what happened the night before. Part of what happened is you're asking about flack out. I don't know. Have you. Could you answer the question judge and just. He that's not happening. Is that your answer? I'm curious if you have. I have no drinking problems nor do I. Thank you. One of those notable personal moments in a hearing full of high emotion, anger in tears, judge Cavanaugh later apologized to Senator klobuchar for that interaction. But the exchange has led some to question Kevin has temperament for the supreme court. Joining me now is democratic Senator klobuchar of Minnesota. She's of course a member of the Senate Judiciary committee Senator. Thanks for joining us. He apologized for asking that question. Do you agree with some of your colleagues say that the fact that he made that comment to you and general tone and tenor and demeanor at the hearing demonstrated a lack of judicial temperament. I was really stunned by how we acted at that hearing. This is a basically job interview for the highest court of the land and all I was trying to get at or some of the issues you were discussing with Kellyanne, Conway and that is that everyone has said that they respected doctor Ford for coming forward that her testimony was compelling, credible will both accounts can't be true. And so one one idea here is that he simply was drinking more than he was saying over this time period, and then he didn't remember what happened. And so I was just simply trying to get at that and really couching it in the fact that I'd call him in my own family. My dad who's ninety now struggled with throughout his life and finally got treatment and is sober. I got help from a and so I was actually trying to get at the truth. And so that's why I was stunned by how he answered it. But then of course, he, he later apologized, do. You think that he was telling the truth when he said that he has never had any memory loss after night of drinking. It doesn't quite make sense to me because first of all, you have these other people from parts of his life who have said that he was belligerent when he was drunk and other things. Now they have not been interviewed by the FBI. And so that was my hope in why. When he apologized said, look, I just wanna see an f. b. i. investigation here we know that she passed a polygraph test, which while not admissible in regular court is used all the time for FBI for CIA for defense department, and she passed it with flying colors. So these are things that the f. b. I could look at as they evaluated the credibility of the witnesses. Are you confident you just heard killing, Conway, say the FBI can investigate whatever they want to investigate? Do you? Are you confident the? Will we be able to explore everything they want to, including if they are interested, the Julie's Nick allegations, including whether or not he was honest to the Senate Judiciary committee. About his drinking. Well, based on some of the reports that we've seen this weekend, I'm very concerned about this because the White House should not be allowed to micromanage an FBI investigation. She says they're not killing you. They're not, I know, and there was one thing she did say, and that is the hardworking men and women of the FBI should be able to do their jobs and on that I agree. But what we are hearing reports, there's somehow trying to limit this to a few witnesses or tell them what they should do. And while the White House decides who to nominate and then that person is the mid it to a background check. I've never heard that the White House either under this president or other presidents is saying, we can't interview this person. You can't look at this time period. You can only look at these people from one side of the street from when they were growing up. I mean, come on this beyond beyond the right. We have to allow them to beyond beyond the reports. Do you know of evidence? That's the case? Because Kellyanne Conway said that's not the case that she doesn't think the White House is is telling the FBI don't look into this. Don't look into that. Don't interview these witnesses. Exactly. I am basing this on reports, and then I'm listening to our interview, which was really interesting when she said at the end that victims of sexual assault should be able to come forward and have their stories and their claims investigated. And so many people including Senator Grassley the chairman during the hearing respected said they respected doctor Ford and talked about her brave. She was. And what I said hearing was, if you truly respect her, then you just can't say it. You have to follow up on the evidence. She actually said that she ran into Mark judge. The other person she said was in the room at a Safeway app, but she doesn't know the time period that he worked there and she, that was one thing that she specifically asked befollows up on because she said he was so uncomfortable when she saw him. He is, of course, a key witness and has not been interviewed by the FBI. But according to reports, they planned to interview him. I just wanna see this. She conducted in a fair independent way which center flake has asked for, and by the way the people have real leverage on this thing are the three Republican senators who are still undecided. They have to make sure that this is a credible investigation from beginning to end so Senator you used to be a prosecutor as you know, as of now with the the evidence that we have, which is no corroborating evidence from the time, nobody who was at the party being able to to back the story, which is not a refutation, but it's also not a corroboration lots of questions about when and where this would have happened. We know that the prosecutor the Republicans brought in Mitchell has said that she would not have enough to take this case to even get a search warrant. Do you disagree with that assessment as as a as a former prosecutor. I, I wanna make clear this isn't a criminal trial and that again, Kellyanne again that this wasn't a criminal trial. This is a job interview. And so many of us have already decided because of this nominees expansive view of presidential power that he doesn't belong on this court to be handpicked by a president who has continually undermined the FBI said he wants to fire the everyone from the attorney, general of the deputy attorney general that we have issues with pudding, someone bench with those views. And number of us voted said, we're going to vote against him. What this was about was the dignity of the court, the dignity of the Senate that we get to the bottom of facts. So I have not looked at the evidence and that way because I haven't been able to interview the witnesses that are there. But what I did find was a cheese seemed very compelling. She answered the questions with grace and dignity and all we wanna do, and this is why. Senator flake made what I considered a courageous move in standing up and saying, I can't stomach this anymore. This is beneath the dignity of this country. This is dividing the country, let's at least have an impartial fat minder and they better be impartial. I believe they can be the f. b. i. follow the evidence Senator you and the other Democrats on the Senate Judiciary committee signed a letter to President Trump this week describing Julius wet Knicks alligators. There were not allowed of questions. Asked about what Nick's allegations in the hearing. Do you think her allegations of that Cavanaugh was involved in the silicates women getting so drunk they could then be gang raped? Do you think those allegations are credible. I don't know Jake, that's I think she has to be interviewed by the FBI. I haven't met her. I do believe in due process and she did sign an f. David and I think it needs to be looked into and that is all because we are not a detective agency in the US Senate. And that's why I've repeatedly made the case that just like even in the Anita hill, hearing George H W Bush reopened. The background check investigation to look at those allegations and numerous times even in the last few months with nominees, those background checks have been open. That's why we made that strong case to our colleagues on the other side of the out, the issue is not winded. Evidence come out, the issue is what do you do when it comes out? The Justice system is always messy and the issue is when you have power, what do you do with that power? And I'm very glad that Senator flake saw this and called for this investigation. But. Now it is on him and he worked with his friend Senator coons and it was a good moment when we got that reopened. But now it's going to be on him to make sure this is a credible investigation, but you're not staying you. You're not a serving anything one way or the other about Julie's wet next claims. I want to ask you one last question Senator you said that you find it hard to believe. I'm paraphrasing. The cavenaugh has never had any memory loss from drinking. I want to ask you about when he was asked to explain some of the terms listed in his yearbook, which of course gets to state of mind what kind of person he was during this era of his life, devil's triangle. We're not alumnus terms that many believed referenced crass or sexist jokes. He insisted they were much more innocent explanations. Did you believe that. I, I don't know what those terms met at the time, but there is evidence that they meant other things that were much different than what he said. And I think they're way you get to the bottom of it. Honestly, is you ask other people, his friends at the time under oath or with the FBI what those terms men, and then you're able to assess much better, assess his credibility. I guess the thing that that is interesting to me about the cavenaugh debate the cabin. The allegations against him is there are a lot of suspicions against him about whether or not he ever had memory loss about whether or not he's not telling the truth or being completely forthcoming about what his yearbook jokes meant, but it doesn't seem to me that any of that necessarily, especially when it comes to the memory loss can be proven. And if you can't prove that, and I get this. This is not a court of law, but it is a court of public opinion. And if you can't prove that he's not telling the truth, is that enough even though I know you opposed him already based on policy grounds? Is that enough to urge that his nomination be withdrawn based on suspicion. Again, I don't want to engage in hypotheticals here because in the end, this is really going to be the decision of Senator flake, Senator Collins, ten hausky center mansion. Some of the senators that are still undecided they are going to have to look at the whole record here at his demeanor. They're going to have to look at those decisions. He made like finding the net neutrality rules unconstitutional finding the consumer financial protection bureau, unconstitutional his use of executive power. His views for center Makovsky, a native American rights, his views on what happened here. And was he telling the truth or not, and just for the country, a number of us said whether we supported him or not, at least give them those facts as they make a decision on who they want to serve on the highest court of the win Senator be closer to our democrat of Minnesota. Thanks for joining us today. We shoot it. Thank you. Jake. It was to be turned the other. Week or summer criticizing, Kavanagh's, angry tone. One leading Christian conservative says it's part party needs to stop electing nice guys coming up next. My name is Paul Shirley, and I've gone on a lot of dates. I've noticed something on these dates. I often find myself telling the same stories stories about my mother teaching sex Ed stories about playing college basketball stories about playing NBA basketball and almost dying in the process. We all do this. We tell stories on dates because dates or winning get to explain where we've been and what we've seen in why we think like we do my name is Paul Shirley, and I hope you'll check out my new narrative podcast stories I tell on dates, you can subscribe for free on apple podcasts or wherever you find your favorite shows. If you drink in high school and you said I liked ear, ten times. That leads to the next question. Did you ever drink too many beers. Cool. Yeah. Damon as Brad Kavanagh, Rachel, Dan drafts Senator Amy klobuchar last night on SNL, show coaching the rollercoaster nature of his testimony on Thursday. Let's discuss. Governor. What if this happens? The FBI report comes back. It's basically all the same things we know now the investigations have been done by the FBI. What then? I hope he's voted down then. I mean, I think as as you know, I was not in favor of him to begin with for a variety of reasons. But I do think that this is a moment that was really a. A watershed for people who've not been heard when flake what Senator flake was in that elevator and Maria. Anna, Maria, and Maria Gallagher said. Look at me. Are you telling me that my experience doesn't matter. Women have felt that way for so long. And these two spoke for so many that the ability to have an investigation and this is before, of course we knew the investigation was going to happen. I cannot tell you that palpable pain that existed among people who felt like this notion of plowing over plowing through women. There, we had the most credible witness we could possibly have, and it wasn't going to be good enough. Let so that sound just because referring to Senator flake has said that affected him. It is Senator flake after he announced he was going to vote for cavenaugh. But before he pushed this compromise leading to the delay on the FBI investigation. Talking to you, you're telling me myself, doesn't matter what happened to me matter that you're going to do these things. Power. What you're telling me vote for him. Away from me. Heart-rending carry? No, that you want a speedy confirmation process and you support judge Cavanaugh. Could it be argued that ultimately, this is actually the function of the Senate to cool things down to take its time and President Trump said, maybe this is a blessing in disguise to at least let people know the FBI has looked into these charges. I think, as you said, very likely, I think in my in my case, I think it's going to be clear that the FBI is going to interview the same people. The Senate Judiciary committee has already interviewed under the same penalty judge. I mean, they've only interviewed. Well, right, but the FBI if those people want to submit statements FBI, that's what that's what the FBI has no power to to subpoena them any more than the than the Senate Judiciary committee has done the, we're going ISIS predict at the end of the day. We're gonna see the same information we have. We'll have to very compelling stories. We'll have no actual contemporaneous corroboration of them. I think we're seeing some Democrats already kind of preparing the ground for saying after saying for two weeks, the FBI is the gold standard. You know, you have Senator Schumer saying the FBI isn't bias. It's professional. He can do the soberly effectively indiscreetly to recruit saying four days delay should be enough now already starting to say, wait a minute. Actually, we think that they're not going to be doing this completely. Let's let's not buy into the FBI is only for delay here. I think it'll be good to have everyone. There were a lot of senators who said, we're still not quite settled until we hear the from it. I think we're gonna hear the lot of these witnesses and they're already starting to come out with repeating the testimony. Lynn Kaiser, Dr Ford's, longtime friend who says I still support, but I also still don't remember the events that she described. So again, we're gonna see this same. The same kind of the result here at the end of the day, people will be maybe have more confidence because they the involved and then we'll move forward to a vote. So moving forward to a vote. Millions of Americans, tens of millions of Americans are going to look at this process, and I have to wonder what she Justice. John Roberts thinks about this process also is somebody who cares deeply about the integrity of the court and not wanting it to be political. Tens of millions of Americans are gonna look at Justice cavenaugh as somebody who got away with it as they did Clarence Thomas. This is a rohrschack test. And I mean, this process was so badly bungled by both sides in the minute. These allegations came out, I said, get the f. b. i. out again and do an investigation that should have been done actually before the hearing. I think it's unfortunate that it happened here. That is what's normally done. I went through not at kids ations of sexual assault, hobbies that I went through active stations against me when I was up for secretary of labor. And by the time I got off the telephone and drove home, the FBI was practically on my doorstep, waiting to reenter view me at Rian. If you other people had this process taken the right form. It had not been politic. Sized. I think we would have a lot more confident and I, it isn't just not coming up with corroborating evidence. I want questions act of Dr. Ford is. Well, we can't live in a society in which accusations of this kind of activity are enough. One question you wanna ask her. I want to know she has a very clear recollection of going down the stairs in going outside. This was a woman who didn't drive somebody drove her home. We didn't have cell phones. We didn't have Ubers. There are other people who need to be questioned, and I can remember as a fifteen year old who used to drive me not to every single event, but there were just, you know, handful of people who drove when I went to parties and my father. And so I mean, I do think more questions, this idea that we have to believe Dr for just because she testified about what happened in that room. Obviously, one of these people's does have one of these people does have a faulting and Senator Turner. Let me ask you because this is. Is it's, it has in many ways on one level, it's about Cavanaugh and professor Ford. On another level. I went to a party last night and heard women telling me stories about their experience, and we heard Killian Conway this morning just a couple of days ago and you did it as well if you days ago on my show, and, but let's run a little bit of from Kellyanne Conway, we can't, because that was a remarkable moment. I was not expecting just minutes ago. I feel very empathetic, frankly, for victims of sexual assault, sexual harassment, and rape that. I'm a victim of sexual assault. I don't expect judge Cavagnaud or Jake tapper or Jeff flake or anybody to be held responsible for that. You have to be responsible for your own conduct. What was your reaction when you heard that the salt part you know touched and they're, you know this, this whole situation has triggered lots of emotions and people are bubbling up just a mouse Strom. If you will of motion, I felt empathy right away now I'm not so sure what she meant about. People have to be responsible for their own actions. Now in a lot of ways, you know victims of sexual assault and rape. You can't say that that person is responsible for that happening. I'm not saying that's what she was trying to say. But right after that. And I think she being able to reveal that just like that. She probably wasn't planning to reveal that, and then she immediately went to the next. But this is I do agree with the governor this watershed moment for this country, and I hope that more good can come from this. Not only listen to women. Kellyanne brought a great points about what happened. Some victims are listened to, and some are not, and we have to stop that in this country, and especially if you're poor and especially if you are of color in my town of Cleveland, the soil murders where you had poor black. Women, some drug addicted, some alcoholics who were raped murdered, kept in his man's house. Even when they went to the police, some of them who got the opportune, nobody believed them why they didn't believe them because their status in this country. So we have lots of work to do even beyond what is happening in this cavenaugh. And I think what Kellyanne meant was the perpetrator is responsible for their behavior, right? Other men in society aren't responsible not to put all of that on this on some other win says she, she obviously thinks that something happened to professor fourth, but Cavanaugh I didn't do it carry. It does seem like they both credible. They're both. They both believe what they believe. It's possible the press reporter members wrong. It's also possible that cavenaugh remembers wrong. Do you find it credible that he is never had any memory blackout at all? Even he buys on admission, he'd sometimes to excess. He said that under oath and here's someone who takes that very seriously. We have people who knew him from the time. Dozens of people. Who say that they find him credible that that this is the allegations here don't line up at all with what they're saying. So as well as everyone that she places at the scene doesn't remember it. Some, some of them also say Kerr, friendly sets. I didn't don't think I've knew him other other people say, this sounds nothing like Brent cabinet. So we, we do have a lot of corroborating testimony. I think that's he said under oath, I think is killing was trying to say with horrible things have happened to a lot of women we need. We can't hold him responsible for them. We have to look at each case stands. I'm afraid we'd have to cut it off just because we went along with killing him because after what she said, we wanted to give it time to talk about it. So I'm sorry to cut the the panel short, but we'll have your Bank, your, thank you so much for being here, passion, anger, emotion, marketing. 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I mean, I get looking for local angles. Is that where we are branding opportunities for gut wrenching testimony, drank beer liked beer still like here. Cavanaugh didn't wear his yell sweatshirt to the hearing, but he may as well have got into yell all school. Number one law school in the country. I suppose it can be a way to look at some of the major issues being dissecting here without really, actually addressing them some combination of animal house. Patty shack in fast times at ridgemont high. Such as the crass movie comedies that Cavanaugh said, inspired his less than chivalrous yearbook increase, have you? I don't know if it booked or how do you pronounce that at times. Frankly, it felt like we were in one of those movies ever. I a flash. We were sixteen hour added. I mean, the hearings didn't have ads for HBO Netflix Cinemax, but I suppose they could have just about the closest probably ever happened to Sparta. I'm spot. 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Washington where the state of our union is honoring our veterans while we here in the US express our appreciation to those who serve our nation. President Trump is in Paris gathering with other world leaders to Mark one hundred years since the end of World War One. But the president's trip abroad has not been without controversy this morning. French president Emmanuel Macron delivered. What appeared to be a scathing rebuke of the president's America first agenda as well as other forms of nationalism saying in front of the international gathering, quote, nationalism is a betrayal of patriotisms Saturday. President Trump through swift condemnation after cancelling a planned visit to honor American soldiers who died in the war the White House, citing inclement weather, the White House explained the weather made it unsafe to helicopter and logistically challenging for the president's motorcades and make the fifty mile drive outside Paris. But as images appeared of other world leaders honoring their fallen soldiers veterans and former White House. Aides criticized the American commander in chief for not having a back. Plan to attend the event. President Trump also facing a slew of unfolding crises back home a recount already underway for three races in Florida deadly wildfires ravaging California and warnings from top Democrats about a possible constitutional crisis after his decision to fire attorney general Jeff Sessions and replace him with a critic of the special counsel. Joining me now is Senate Democratic leader Chuck Schumer. Leader Schumer, minority leader Schumer. I wanna start with Tuesday nights election, big democratic gains in the house and some warning signs for Republicans in the suburbs. But Republicans in the Senate looked poised to grow their majority flipping three blue seats in Missouri, North Dakota and Indiana as well as potentially in Florida, why didn't the democratic message resonate in those states. Well, let me say this Jake. The election was a great victory for Democrats. Taking back the house with up to thirty five seats is you seven governorships lots of legislative races lower state legislative races that we picked up seats. So Trump in the Republicans are trying to say, well, but the Senate showed that we really one nothing could be further from the truth. I if you would've told us a couple of years ago that we'd be as close as we are people would say, we're crazy. They were saying we lose eight to ten seats and. Even the forty votes in the Senate, we had ten states where Donald Trump won the election in two thousand sixteen hours senators one in six of those ten with one still Florida's still in contest and in the three states that carry Trump to victory, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin and Michigan not only did democratic senators win by double digits in two of them. But Republicans told Trump he couldn't even set foot in those states because he was so unpopular, and so this is a great victory for Donald Trump to claim because he won a Senate race in North Dakota or Indiana Almas airy states he won by nineteen hundred and thirty six percent that shows how weak I'd be very worried if I were Donald Trump and the Republicans about the twenty twenty elections if all they can claim is they want to North Dakota. We greatly regret the loss of wonderful people. Great senators like hide camp and Donnelly. And mccaskill but hardly a victory in those three states is any vindication for the Republican for the route of the Republicans well with all due respect, sir. I is it not true. I mean, I've talked to a number of Democrats in those states who say this is a warning sign for Democrats when it comes to the two thousand twenty presidential election cavenaugh and the caravan they say those messages from Republicans those messages from President Trump enabled people, even like Claire mccaskill who ran a pretty flawless campaign relatively speaking in Missouri to blues decisively, do Democrats not have to come up with a better response when it comes to border security, and did you not get out played when it came to the cabinet nomination? Not just the fact that he's on the court. But also the fact of the politics of it. Well, the bottom line is, you know, the cavenaugh dispute I think helped us more than it hurts us. It's one of the reasons we won the house so decisively. It's one of the reasons we won governorships in so many other states. Because suburban voters who are traditionally Republican came to our side. And if the coalition the old democratic coalition can add suburban voters to it and continue to focus on issues like healthcare, which matter to working class Americans throughout the country. We're going to win a West Virginia the state that Trump won by more votes than any other other than why. Ohm ING Joe Manchin despite President Trump's efforts one and he focused exclusively on healthcare issue, health care of infrastructure and jobs will resonate in rural America in suburban America and in urban America and the way it helped us in twenty eighteen it's been a help us here. I think the president lost more votes because of the cavenaugh issue then gained throughout the country. Let's talk about the Florida recount going on right now. The Florida Senate election is moving in that direction as are two other races. There Broward County Florida has been plagued with election problems. Not just this year. But in the past the election supervisor has been accused. In the past of illegally destroying ballots in a previous election that the county already missed the reporting deadline this year said in state law, and a judge needed to step in isn't it reasonable for people to have concerns about what's going on in Broward County will look every vote should be counted. And President Trump, and Rick Scott are so afraid of every vote being counted because they think Scott will lose if that happens that they're interfering they alleged massive fraud. That's what Scott's at his own. Republican officials in Florida said there is no fraud it when you vote by mail, it takes awhile to count the ballots because some of the male votes come in on election day, and that's a process that should be transparent. There've been Republican and Democrats in those election places, no one is alleged any fraud. And what now we have a recount, and my guess Trump, and particularly Scott, we'll try to interfere in that recount because they don't want the votes counted, we Democrats we want every single vote counted? That's every. Americans. Right. No matter who they vote for we're willing to abide by the outcome. If every vote is fairly corrected and nothing is interfered with we believe that Bill Nelson will be reelected Senator. If every vote is counted. And that's what Trump and Scott are. So scared of well, I take your point that there hasn't been any fraud or theft proven or even evidence introduced, but do you not understand why some people looking at Broward County say boy that place is a mess. It's run by Democrats. And there have been election problems for a long time in that county. So I have concerns about how legitimate the Countess. Well, wait, a second saying it's going to slowly as one thing saying, you have concerns about how legitimate the count is is another because as you just said, no one has said there's any fraud here and the paramount issue here. The paramount issue is having every vote counted, even if it takes a little longer we should not be rushed into doing this, particularly in an election. That is so dawn close in one other point, Jake even. In Georgia the secretary of state recused himself because he was on the ballot for governor Scott should recuse himself immediately. He has a self interest in jaundice seeing this election, he should be out of it altogether. The president on Wednesday fired. The attorney general Jeff Sessions and appointed Matt Whitaker is acting attorney general this has prompted even some Senate Republicans such as Susan Collins and Jeff flake to call for this legislation to make sure the president can't fire special counsel. Robert Muller, you've supported this legislation for months, how far are you willing to go to support it are you willing to risk a government shutdown to force this into the agenda that President Trump has to sign it will let me say first the appointment of Mr. Whittaker should concern every American democrat, Republican liberal conservative who believes in rule of law and Justice. He's already prejudged the Muller situation. If he if he stays there, he will create a con. Institutional crisis by inhibiting Muller or firing Muller. Even. So congress has to act has to act now, here's what he said. This is amazing. This fellow Whitaker. The new acting attorney general said that there at one point that there was no proof that Russia interfere NAR elections when seventeen intelligence agency said we did he has already outlined how to strangle the Muller investigation cut their funding and other things so we Democrats intend to do two things. I today I am sending a letter along with leader Pelosi and some of the other Democrats who ranking members of their committees in both houses to the chief ethics officer of the Justice department asking him to issue guidelines should Whitaker recused himself from anything involving Muller. He issued guidelines like that with Jeff Sessions, and Jeff Sessions recused himself Whitaker, should but second if that doesn't happen. We Democrats house. Senate will attempt to add to must pass legislation in this case the spending Bill legislation that would prevent Mr. Whittaker from interfering with the Muller investigation that legislation has has had bipartisan support to Democrats and two Republicans introduced it as you mentioned the there are a number of Republicans who've spoken out that we cannot allow Whittaker to interfere with the Muller investigation. Right. So there's no reason that legislation shouldn't pass and be added to the Bill, but the the majority leader of the Senate Mitch McConnell has expressed zero desire or willingness to have this be voted on in the full Senate. You have the power because of the sixty vote threshold to force this legislation into the government spending Bill or some other mechanism. If you risk shutting down. The government are Democrats willing to do that. Are you willing to risk shutting down the government and not signing a government spending Bill in less? The Mahler protection legislation is included. Look, I believe our Republic there enough of our Republican colleagues who will join us. There's no reason we shouldn't added this avoid a constitutional crisis. And so that is our position if that doesn't happen. We'll see what happens down the road. I don't mean to be skeptical. But why would you believe Republicans are going to join you on this? We have as I said we have bipartisan legislation and a number of Republicans have spoken out. I've spoken to some people are really concerned about this better to avoid a constitutional crisis before it happens and Mitch McConnell said he saw no reason because there's no interference with Whittaker. There is every reason to believe they'll be interference based on what Mr. Whittaker has said. So the thing the world has changed from win Rosenstein. Was in charge of the investigation. And I think I'd believe that many Republicans will find the same. So you've raised concerns about the legality of Whitaker's appointment in a letter that you sent to the White House Friday, but the tat the text of the federal vacancies reform access, quote, if an officer of an executive agency resigns, the president may direct an officer employees of such executive agency to perform the functions and duties of the vacant office temporarily in enacting capacity now, I get that you have objections to Matt Whitaker, but isn't the president within his legal authority to put him in as acting attorney general temporarily well, the constitution requires advise and consent for principal officers. And if the attorney general is in principle officer, who is the constitution would supersede that legislation. It hasn't been tested. There are a number of senators who are looking at a lawsuit. We'll have to see if they have standing. But there are people who do have standing who will pursue this in the courts, and I believe that will be found that Mr. Whittaker cannot be. She put in as a turning general because he has not been approved by the Senate, not only the right thing to do. I think it's the constitutional prerogative as well. There was a test before the supreme court in US Eaton in eighteen ninety eight the court rejected the idea that a temporary fill in for a principal officer needs to be confirmed by the Senate. Yeah. Well, I think in the case of attorney general, it's different. And I think that the courts will side with us if there was ever a principal officer someone in charge of law enforcement in charge of rule of law who has responsibilities far beyond being a partisan such as extreme partisan as Whitaker is this is the instance, and I think the courts will rise to the occasion Democrats are going to have new levers of power in January when your colleagues take control of the house. Now, you have been out warning about a possible constitutional crisis, including on the show this morning from everything you've seen from President Trump's so far should house. Democrats file articles of. Or is that premature look I think we should pursue the ways that we're going about this now as I out lined. I think that the ideal situation, which I hope will happen. I believe our Republican colleagues will join us in making sure it happens is to allow the Muller investigations to go forward to make public what he recommends and take it from there. So that's where I think we should go right now. I step job one avoid interference with Muller. It's paramount to the rule of law this country not to become a third world Republic. Let's turn to healthcare. You brought it up earlier you say, it's an issue that helped the Democrats take the house and keep some of the Senate seats, and obviously it was very important for voters, according to exit polls a lot of the candidates in two thousand eighteen rallied around not just preserving the protection for people with pre-existing conditions, but Medicare for all and in fact last year, a third of your Senate caucus, including Cory Booker Kirsten gillibrand Elizabeth Warren cosponsored, the Bill the President Obama has called a good idea Medicare for all you how ever. Have not signed onto Medicare for all. Why not my view is? There are many different approaches. Democrats have United in one thing we want to provide better healthcare at less cost for the American people when the average family sits down at their kitchen table Friday night. They worry more about rising healthcare costs in the inability to provide healthcare for a parent a spouse a child then anything else. That's why even with this. Good economy. Democrats did so well in the election, and there are lots of different approaches to make that happen. There's Medicare for all there's buy into Medicare or Medicaid. There are many other approaches Senator Murray has as a has put forward some and we are United in improving health care at lower costs for Americans. And there are lots of different approaches will unite on an approach and come forward with that. As we move through. The legislative process is Medicare for all not politically a wise approach. I mean a. A big your Senator who was reelected from Wisconsin Tammy Baldwin, she embraced it. Yeah. And show. I'm not what she won reelection in a state that Donald Trump watt. I am not picking one over the other. There are lots of good approaches and the most important thing here is to have democratic unity. We had unity on healthcare back in two thousand seventeen and we were able to preserve the healthcare of thirty million people when we defeated the attempt to repeal the ACA we will come together we have a great caucus in the Senate. And I hope it'll be duplicated. I believe that will in the house where people from Elizabeth Lauren to Joe Manchin come together when we discuss how we can be United in a strong position. And it's worked I think it will work again with healthcare. Well, speaking of your caucus. You watched what happened in the fight for the Republican presidential nomination in two thousand sixteen when more than a dozen candidates ran against each other and beat each other up pretty pretty good. It looks like your party the Democratic Party may face a similarly crowded field in two thousand twenty if not. Even more. So are there any lessons learned that? You'll take into this presidential cycle that you'll caution. Jill LeBron Booker, Warren Sanders, etc. When it comes to democratic presidential primaries. Look, I think we have lots of strong candidates across the political spectrum. My basic philosophy right now is led a thousand flowers bloom. Let's get a lot of people out there. The proposal process. Little like sports. It's almost mystical. You never know who's going to emerge on top. And so having candidates out there, various views all United in the need to change. The course of how the presidency is conducted and of how we help the middle class people Spiring to be in the middle class in a much better way than the Republicans. Have I think Democrats at the end of the day will be United will be United on a candidate who can best defeat Trump? And at the moment. There are many different approaches. Let's see which one proves to be the strongest Senate Democratic leader Chuck Schumer of New York. Thank you so much for your. We appreciate it. The president here. Good good to have you. The president is accusing officials in Florida committing election fraud. Is there any evidence is there any Republican Senate campaign chair Cory Gardner, Colorado joins me, and he reportedly called himself the best choice to impeach President Trump. So is that his plan? We'll ask the incoming head of the House Judiciary committee next. You know, what's not smart job sites that overwhelm you with tons of the wrong resumes. But you know, what is smart ZipRecruiter dot com slash S. O T you unlike other job sites. Ziprecruiter, doesn't wait for candidates to find you ZipRecruiter finds them for you. It's powerful matching. Technology scans thousands of resumes identifies people with the right skills education and experience for your job. And actively invites them to apply. So you get qualified candidates fast. No, more sorting through the wrong resumes. No more waiting for the right candidates to apply. It's no wonder that ZipRecruiter is rated number one by employers in the US. 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And then attempt by Democrats to steal the election charges that are not backed up by the Republican Florida's secretary of state or Florida law enforcement joining me now, Colorado Senator Cory Gardner, and he's the chairman of the national Republican senatorial committee Senator thanks so much for joining us a statement from your organization, the NRA says a Florida, quote, it's clear the Democrats goal here is not to count every vote fairly. But the skills an election and a tweet President Trump accused Democrats in Florida committing fraud. Governor Rick Scott, who's running for Senate has made similar comments. Is there any specific evidence at all of anyone committing fraud or trying? To steal the election. Trying to change the outcome. Well, here's the specific evidence. We have we have a court in Florida that has said there was a violation of the Florida constitution. We have court has that has directed. Certain bit. Better behavior out of the Palme county election supervisors we have courts that are saying follow the law that is not being followed. We know they're not following the law. They certainly weren't following the law. They were posting when they were supposed to be about the the results of ballots coming in. They weren't providing the canvas the total number of ballots that had been cast and courts have agreed with us on those points. So I think there's clear evidence that the constitution was violated a court in Florida has said the same. Well, it's true. What you're saying about transparency and its trend of what you're saying. Exactly, right. It's true about transparency and about meeting deadlines. Absolutely, correct. But Florida's department of law enforcement said Friday, they haven't even received any allegations of criminal activity of fraud of stealing and the secretary of state's office just said yesterday, there's still quote, no evidence of criminal activity. So it just seems like the rhetoric we're hearing from what does collation what's violation of the constitution violating the constitution. Does it rise to the level of concern? And Florida it absolutely not saying that I'm saying have people we have people who are actually duplicating ballots, which is allowed underlie if you follow the law, but they're doing it without witnesses without the canvas that they're supposed to. I mean, this is insane. You have you have election officials that weren't even following court orders yet, they weren't in compliance with court orders. And so I think this is a big problem. And what we're trying to do is make sure that we're protecting every single vote in Florida. We're protecting them from the fraud. We're protecting the integrity of these votes. Every vote should be. Counted? But by gosh, not let fraudulent or anti-constitutional behaviour, prevail. Well, this is what I'm taking issue with there is there is a difference between all the things that you're taking issue with which I mentioned to Senator Schumer in the previous interview legitimate areas of concern about the behavior of election officials in Palm Beach county, and more importantly or more specifically in Broward County, but there's a big difference between that and fraud and stealing and theft of an election. And I've covered recounts before I've covered recounts in Florida before typically lawyers for the candidate who's head. They go in and use every legal maneuver they can to prevent votes from being counted. And I guess the question is does the NRA think that every single vote legally cast by election day should be counted is that an important principle for you. Every vote legally cash should be counted in every vote legally cash should be counted the same whether it's Miami or Pensacola, we shouldn't have standards that are different in Broward County or a pom county. We shouldn't have somebody who is actually defying the law or court orders. Now, this isn't a question of potato potato here. This is not what we're dealing with. This is the constitution of Florida. That has been violated any court that has said the same. And so I don't take this lightly. We need to make sure that we're protecting the integrity of the of the elector electric in Florida that every vote is counted and to make sure that we protect this from fraud. And that's exactly what we're doing each and every day that we're in Florida with these court decisions and making sure that the law is applied equally across the state the state the Senate race in Arizona is also right now still too close to call. The NRA sent out a press release accusing the top Americo pa- county election official in Arizona of quote using his position to cook. The books. For cinema. That's the democrat in that race. But the Republican governor of Arizona Ducey Republican secretary of state they've all voiced support for the process. We haven't heard any complaints from the Republican Senate candidate congresswoman, Martha mcsally is there any evidence to support that the Maricopa County elections official are cooking the books. Well, I think what what we've seen in Arizona is the tip to make sure like in Florida that we're treating everybody equally under the law. There had been concerned that America a process was being used to determine signatures or validation of ballots that differed from places in other parts of the county the other parts of the state other counties in the state. So whether it was Yuma or America or other places. They were concerned that the Maricopa was holding a standard that was not being allowed to count votes in other parts of the state. So I believe there's been an agreement amongst the counties with the officials there to count everything the same to follow the same procedure. And that's important because you know, a vote that's cast in Yuma. It shouldn't be disqualified under the same provisions that qualifies a vote in Maricopa legally cast vote wherever it is legally cast should count the same not with different standards amongst the offices. I know your organization accused an election official of cooking the books, and I don't see any evidence of any illegality. There are questions about. If you want to get technical here about what emergency voting is and Meera COPA county. The law is very vague Maricopa County set up for emergency voting stations before election day, two of them, by the way in Republican areas Mesa, and Scottsdale and different counties interpret that vague law different ways. That's not cooking the books, and I just I keep hearing the organization chair accused people of breaking the law, and I don't. If you're a voter in Arizona and your cast a vote in Yuma. And you cast a vote in Phoenix legally, you did it the same and your vote in Yuma. Is disqualified your vote in Maricopa is not disqualified is that fair. I deferred to the payer. I prefer to the governor. And the secretary of state of Arizona, they're both Republicans, and they say everything is going according to how it should be going. Now, if you have issues with county by county election processes, whether it's in Florida or Zona, then I don't wanna stand in the way of you. Introducing legislation saying every state has to do it the exact same way. But if the Republican government, I'm not talking about federalizing elections. I'm talking about the state of Arizona. I'm not talking about federal education. I don't I think federalizing the elections would be a bad idea. I think making sure that as if you're an era Zona that the vote you cast legally counts, I think that's what we're trying to do. That's what was that's the agreement that was reaching Arizona. And I think that's a good outcome. But where's the evidence that anybody was cooking the books? Well, we had evidence that people were treating ballots differently. And again, this is about the integrity of when you go and cast a ballot. You don't expect to yours to be disqualified and under a provision that would allow a ballots to be counted somewhere else. I don't think that's exactly what we're trying to do who's balanced, we're being disqualified. My understanding of the situation is that what happened was America county? They had four emergency voting stations set up in the county. The by the way, it's a county that Joe are pile one. I mean, it's a it's a mixed county. Republicans and Democrats both can win in that county. And that's what happened. It's not like people in Yuma county were not allowed to vote. It's this elections official setup for emergency voting stations throughout the county including in Scottsdale and Mesa which are Republican leaning. Well, I think I've answered the question we just want to make sure that every vote counts. And that every vote legally cast is counted. And that you don't have different standards on signatures verifications of the signatures that might not allow vote to go forward in one part of the state that allows it to go forward and another part of the state. I think we're both interested in making sure that every vote is counted the every person who legally cast is there. That's what this is about. So we're trying to protect the people of Arizona to make sure that whether they cast it in the southeast part of the state or the northeast part of the state doesn't matter counts the same. Well, I think you, and I agree and probably everyone watching every vote that was legally cast by election day should count Senator Cory Gardner. Thank you so much. Really? Appreciate your time. Actually, I'm Jake. Thank you. Next guest has a history of clashing with Donald Trump years ago. They opposed each other over real estate expansion of New York City, and now they're set to clash over well, sky's the limit as House Democrats prepare to exercise their new oversight power and investigate President Trump on a dizzying array of issues. Joining me now is the likely new chairman of the House Judiciary committee democratic congressman Jerry Nadler of New York, mister chairman in all likelihood, thanks so much for joining us. You've been saying that under the Republicans there's been no congressional oversight of the Trump administration. Now that you're expected to be the chairman of the House Judiciary committee. What are the first three things that you want to hold hearings on? The very first thing obviously used to protect them other investigation. The president's dismissal of of attorney general sessions and his appointment of Whitaker who's a complete political lackey is a real threat to the integrity of that investigation. That investigation is of utmost importance in making sure that we here to the rule of law, and that the administration is held accountable, and we will certainly hold hearings on that very first witness on after January third. We will we will subpoena Mr. or we will summon if necessary subpoena, Mr. Whittaker, and what will you ask Mr. Whittaker? Well, the questions we will ask him. We'll be about his express still eighty two investigation how he can possibly supervise it when he's expressed. The he's come out and said that the investigation is is invalid that there was contrary to the findings of every intelligence agency. There was no Russian interference in our election. And we when he is expressed ridiculous legal opinions that go against the foundations of American noise, totally unqualified, and there's only qualifications seems to be that he wants to be that the president wants to be the hatchet man to destroy the molar investigation. Well, be that as it may. You know, and you've called Whitaker's appointment illegal the law in this case in the federal vacancies reform act of nineteen ninety eight authorized the president to replace the attorney general in this case Jeff Sessions with any senior officials been serving in the same department for at least ninety days as long as they're quote acting capacity for fewer than two hundred ten days, regardless of Mr. Whittaker. He he meets those requirements. Well, I don't think so. There's very good constitutional law that regardless of the vacancy act, you cannot have an attorney general or for that matter and acting attorney general hasn't been confirmed by the Senate and that anything he does is invalid. But that may very well be tested in court with. Meanwhile, we have to ask the attorney the the claimed attorney general for sure Ince's that he's not going to interfere with the administer with the with the investigation by Mullah because the rule of law must be maintained. And no official can be above the rule of law. Not the president. And that is and that is key. You know, there's been the Republicans in congress have refused to have any checks to perform our constitutional duty being a check and balance on the president. We will do that. And this is the first I've been doing that the president may think that he is above the law. He may think that he will not be held accountable, but he will be. Do you plan to take any action to remove President Trump from office? Are you going to attempt to teach meant to the New York Times reported you pitched yourself to your democratic colleagues for the top spun quote, the strongest member to lead a potential impeachment. Well, the key word is potential. If it comes up, we know we're impeachment is a question that will come up down the road, maybe depending on the findings of the mode ministration ended other investigations, we're we're far from that. Right now, you were vocally opposed to the impeachment proceedings against President Clinton, of course, in one thousand nine hundred eight you call them a partisan coup-d'etat, you said that any potential impeachment of President Trump, quote must not be partisan, according to CNN CNN's exit polls from Tuesday seventy seven percent of Democrats support impeaching president. Trump five percent of Republicans. There is a real partisan divide on this issue of impeachment. Does that concern you? Not really because as I said, we're far from that. If we get to the question of impeachment, then one of the tests should be. And I said this repeatedly is the evidence so strong of misdeeds so terrible. That you really believe at the beginning of the process that by the end of the process when all this is laid out publicly, a very large fraction of the people who voted for the president will will will grudgingly acknowledged to themselves anti others that you had no choice, but to impeach the person that's eight test because you don't want the country torn apart in the sense that half the country says for the next thirty years, we won the election you stole. So one question before you do an impeachment is do you think that the evidence of such terrible deeds is so strong that a large portion of the opposition vote base of the president's vote base who'd be convinced by the end of the process, and you're not there yet. You don't see? Anything from? Okay. Well, I see a lot of potentials. But we don't know. That's why we're waiting to see what the special counsel finds. We're waiting to see what fair investigation the Republicans on the intelligence committee on the judiciary committee made sure there was no fair investigation in congress. There will be now, and we'll see what that comes up with what this special prosecutor special counsel's office comes up with and then have to make judgments, I certainly hope that we will not find the necessity for an impeachment. But you can't rule that out a conservative writer overheard you on the train from New York to DC on Wednesday. You're on your phone, and according to her you were detailing a plan to impeach recently confirmed supreme court Justice cavenaugh for alleged short. She was not she was not telling the truth, and I'm not going to comment on a private conversation with a friend. But it's not correct. You have no intentions of trying to or or even discussing potentially impeaching Justice cavenaugh for perjury. No. The only thing I think we do have. No, no, what I think we do have to do is is one of the things that the committee has to do is to investigate the question of the FBI not doing a proper investigation so that because of White House interference. So that we can do whatever is necessary to make sure that in the future investigations are adequate. But you did promise to investigate cavenaugh if the Democrats gain control of the house, right? No. I said that we would look into the question. I just mentioned. Okay. But no no commitments to to investigate. All right. Congressman Jerry Nadler one last question for you. The Wall Street Journal reported on Friday, the President Trump was quote involved in or briefed on nearly every step of hush money payments made to two women on his behalf women with whom he allegedly had affairs. Prosecutors have evidence of the president's participation the journal reported if the president is found to have been involved in campaign finance violations that are potentially criminal is that an impeachable offense. That might very well be an impeachable offense. And the question would be aching. You can you prove well, it may be an impeachable offense. If it goes to the question of the president pro procuring, his office through corrupt means, and that could be impeachable and you'd have to see whether. How good the proof of that isn't. Secondly, what else there is? Because the fact that an impeachable offenses committed has been committed does not mean necessarily the ought to be an impeachment. That depends on whether the situation is serious enough that that it makes sense to to to do an impeachment to defend the the the system of government and the system of democracy. And so yeah, that would be a factor that would go into any such judgment. All right soon to be incoming chairman of the House Judiciary committee, congressman Jerry, Nadler, democrat of New York. Thank you so much for your time this morning. Thank you, President Trump fired as attorney general and replaced him with a critic of Robert Mueller. He banned a reporter from the White House. He called Florida's election count of fraud. But other than that how has your week stay with us. Tired of spending hundreds of dollars for prescription glasses. Our friends at Zanny optical offer, a huge variety of high quality stylish frames state of the art optics starting at just six ninety five. You can get multiple frames with this great pricing for less than one pair. Elsewhere start building your eyewear wardrobe from the comfort of your own home at Xeni dot com. With the latest trends in eyewear available in hundreds of frame styles and materials there isn't a better way to change it up for every season. Plus is any offers prescription sunglasses that incredible prices. Visit Xeni today at Xeni dot com slash CNN. That's z dot com slash CNN. We don't know who won that we do know that when people vote they deserve to have their votes candidate. If they can. So we ought to just respect the process. What's going on disgrace, go down and see what happened over the last thirty time ten years? Look at Broward County, take a look at the total dishonesty of what happened with respect to Broward County. State of the union. I'm Jake tapper two presidents to Florida recounts two very different tones. Let's dive right in and talk about with our panel congresswoman, I'll start with you President Trump going full-throatedly against what's going on in Florida. You saw the difference with President Clinton who that was the presidential one. And it was his vice president who was on the ballot there. What's your tick? Well, he ought to have proof for when he says that seems to be something that's been thrown out the window. But if you're going to say something is there's criminal behavior or there's unethical behavior or there's corruption to have profe- doesn't have any proof of that look, and I seen your guests at we're on just a little bit ago every vote oughta count. That's what matters getting to the truth. Whether it's an investigation. Whether it's vote recounts, whatever it is just getting to the truth matters. We talked a little bit ago. I'm a farmer journalist. I'm a former investigative journalist. And what always guided us in journalism, and I don't believe this. Journalists are the enemy of the people. I believe there. Essential to our democracy. But getting to the truth is what should matter we should count every vote, and we ought to have every attempt to do that. And we should note also the election officials in Florida, Broward County and Palm Beach county should be transparent with the process and open up these rooms to the journalists down there, Florida has excellent local journalists, and that's part of this process as well. Big thing. Look, I mean, we we have we know that they have violated the law court came down and said that pump Palm Beach county violated the terms of transparency and in terms of when they filed the votes. Well, that's sort of important. I mean, it's, but I'm just saying it's not fraudulent votes, but where does fraud happen? It happens when people aren't watching, and there is no transparency and people aren't following procedures procedures are in place to stop fraud. They are not following procedures. Therefore, and they're keeping it. There's no transparency that raises a big concern that there might be fraud going on because if there wasn't why wouldn't you be transparent? And why wouldn't you follow the law Senator Turner year from a state where people have alleged? Voter fraud against Republicans. I'm old enough to remember the two thousand four presidential race where people made all sorts of allegations against the Bush campaign in Ohio without any evidence without any proof just based on a lot of suspicion. Well, I mean, listen, if if they broke the rules, the court said that they broke the rules in Palm Beach, and they should be held accountable for that. But we can't complete these two different things between elections officials not doing their job and actually saying that there is voter fraud going on in state, Florida has a problem and has had a problem for a very long time. The federal government should step in and the help America vote act. There was funding. They are a lot of states are undefended in terms of their voting apparatus. And we need to have a better commitment as a nation towards making sure that every state has what it needs to have the apparatus, but count every vote and let the chips fall where they may. So the president's railing against what's going on in Florida was part of a very aggressive week by the president in which he went after a whole bunch of American institutions. House oversight journalists, elections officials, etc. There's one in particular that I really was curious about your response to it as a former FBI official the president attacking the democratic house majority and their desire to do oversight tweeting the morning after the election, if the Democrats think they're going to waste taxpayer money investigating us at the house level. Then we will likewise be forced to consider investigating them for all of the leaks of classified information and much else at the Senate level two can play that game. And then later on he went on his press conference to talk about how the Trump administration it self would be going after that's not just using the Senate against the house. But that's also potentially using the department of Justice and the FBI against the house. What do you think of obviously, that's always the wrong answer in any of these? I do think that the house risks going into becoming the house of investigations throwing subpoenas because they're curious not well-founded that's a risk that that can happen. But I think the president interjecting himself into a process of I will investigate. You that that is a form of intimidation that I think is uncalled for at the presidential level, candidly, just like, I think it's wrong. The Democrats are saying we've got a stack of subpoenas that we're just curious about to me that's wrong too. We've got to get back to a normal operation of these house committees and the president needs to just worry about listen, if he would've talked about jobs and the economy and the things that his administration did do right? I think the election could have turned out very very differently. He didn't he's caught in this trap of. It's really it's not that I win you have to lose. And when he goes through then I think this was a week of frustration. You saw the president venting that frustration in ways. I don't think is helpful to good regular order of really important institutions, the congress of the United States, you're a congress democratic congresswoman, but you're Republican part of Illinois. You're a former investigative journalist that says you want to go where the facts go. Do you have any concerns? Having heard from incoming judiciary committee, chairman Jerrold Nadler that Democrats. Are going to go out on fishing expeditions. Well, I'm not a lawyer. I'm not on the judiciary. But I believe we ought to just let the truth guide us listened to Mike Rogers, and we were talking in the hallway on our our walk down to sit right here with you. He was speaking glowingly about Detrick for Sperber who was the democrat when Mike Rogers was the chair on on Intel. We just need to let the truth guide us. Remove the politics, especially from the intelligence Kennedy. We we need to work together. Democrats and Republicans. I don't think it's that hard when you have reasonable people. And I don't think it's hard to do that. What do you think? I mean that that's from her from her mouth to God's ears. But I don't know. I just look at it from the president's perspective, the president suffered some some losses. That were me unforced errors a lot of suburban Republicans lost because of this president's hyperbole, and and and combative tone. This is an opportunity for him to take a step back and recognize this is going to affect his ability to win reelection. He cannot win states like Pennsylvania, and Michigan, and Wisconsin and other states continuing this, this harsh combative attitude that turns off suburban voters at what the same time not appealing to to minorities. Who I think should be voting for him based upon his record of the economy and what he's doing to create employment opportunities and and at better wellbeing for them. So he he has to do something to change his tone and what he's done coming out of the box is double down on that tone. And that's just a big mistake. Speaking of which another something that I wanted to I wondered what you thought had to do with the president's combative tone. He went after four journalists in particular this week, one of them was Jim Acosta, perhaps the one that was MO noticed the most, but coincidentally or not the other three were African American women. Take a listen. On the campaign trail, you called yourself, a nationalist some people saw that as in bowling, white, nationalist. Now, people are also saying. It's such a racist. There. You talk about somebody. That's a loser. She doesn't know what the hell she's doing. But a stupid question that what a stupid question. But I watched you a lot you ask a lot of stupid. That's the president talking about Michelle send her from. Who did not ask a racist? Question April Ryan, a colleague of ours here who is not a loser has with American urban networks and CNN's own abbey. Philip who didn't ask a stupid question? And is in fact, one of the smartest people. I know that's your response. I'm pissed stake. I'm trying to keep my composure on this fine Sunday morning. The Senator excuse me. The president was a bully just flat out and some people will say he's an equal opportunity belief, but we understand that in this country when you level those kinds of comments against African Americans. Your lose your stupid Gillam is a thief. He knows exactly what he's doing. He's in Bokan, and stirring, up stereotypes that impact the African American community, our image, our profession who we are more deeply than anybody else. He should be ashamed of himself. But he is not. And there was a photograph. That was that was captured of seeing him pointing his finger at abbey in a way that it should be totally unacceptable. But. What do we expect from this president? This is who he really is. And he has a disdain for African Americans. And other people Cutler, whether it's calling all Mexican rapist or call in countries that are dominated by people of color, a shit shithole countries. I mean, he has show from the central park five to this moment this part. It has a great hate. And disdain for people of color pee on your congresswoman is a former journalist. What did you make up? All that. The president was disgraceful. He behaved in a way that we should never say a president behave. What needed just said about how he is directing his comments to people of color. We we shouldn't have a president who feels like he can speak in those towns, whether it's African Americans weather, it's it's about people coming from Mexico or Central America or people who are living in our country people of color. I think it's disgraceful. I understand. There are people who think he's looking just attacks. Every that he does attack any African American women journalists in the White House press corps to the shame of the White House. Press corps, which is another matter. But but I mean to go after four people Jimmy const, I get there's a whole thing there. Okay. We don't have to go into that. But but I I don't think that they should have taken away his credential for the record. But but the other three I mean, it is so disproportionately African American women. Look, I the president does treat everybody that that that confronts him poorly. And but having said that he needs to be aware of what he's doing. I mean, he he can't he can't see that's not as a vacuum that it is. He he went after people specifically African American women, and he has to recognize that's a problem, and he shouldn't do ask questions, they didn't treat. I mean, they asked him quite they were they were incendiary quest at least. He's the president of the United States of America. He should be able to take it. But he does know what he's doing is that you said he shouldn't be doing. He shouldn't. He does know what he's doing. I think he's just combative. Anyway, I don't think we're going to settle the matter right now. Thank you so much. Thank you for spending your Sunday morning with us tonight. Don't miss the final episode of parts unknown with a very personal tour of Anthony board Danes Lower East Side tonight at nine pm on CNN for as a car. It sits down with French president Emmanuel amount crawl next stay with us. 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Ep 573 | SCOTUS Votes on Trump's Tax Returns. Is This Bad for Trump?

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Ep 573 | SCOTUS Votes on Trump's Tax Returns. Is This Bad for Trump?

"Today to new Supreme Court decisions Joe Biden pushes a made in America. Plan and Amazon will no longer offer Washington. redskins merchandise finally. Someone's doing it. We've got a lot coming up today and it starts right now. Welcome to the news, and why it matters, I am Sarah Gonzalez today joined by stupor gear blaze. TV host of STU does America. Thanks for being here very excited and you're gonNA. Come join me tomorrow for my hundred episode after Party stood power hour, including the are designated driver Sarah Gonzales I'm very excited to have you. Yes, I mean. I would be more excited if I was participating in our. Little, one would. As much right now, but as soon as it's over your. So in. Back for power to yes. I'm making up for lost time. And then I'll be. There you go. Also of course, obviously joined by Yaku. Billions host of the show. Thank you for being here as well we've got a lot to get into gentlemen so to new supreme. Court decisions came down today Let's go over the first one, so Skoda's now has decided that president trump's tax documents can be sought as part of a criminal investigation, but at least for now congress is not able to get his financial records. And, this was a seven to two decision. The court rejected arguments by trump's lawyers and the department of Justice that the president is immune to a state criminal investigation while in office or that a higher standard is needed to subpoena sitting president. And there were a couple different facets to this particular ruling, there were a couple of different cases that they were weighing in on. But of course these the tax documents being sought in this particular case, trump versus Vance as a part of a grand jury investigation into alleged hush money payments made to stormy Daniels which it's really hard to imagine that we're still talking about stormy Daniels. We're the only ones talking during her career. I don't think is going all that well these days. It's an interesting one because I, mean I think. On its face, the the separation of powers argument made that Congress can just not grabbing for the president's re records. Blatantly obvious I mean. I can't believe that even made it to Supreme Court I'm glad they ruled correctly on that on the other side of it. I think there is A. You get like the hood spa of of the trump just basically aluminium everything until I got an office. It's a great argument if you can win it. Adjusts. With the Russia investigation we were told by the left that the only reason he was not, he was actually guilty, but the only reason he wasn't charged with anything because he was a sitting president so to be fair, they are the ones who I posited that theory and he's just like. Hey, that's what they're saying. I got to run with it right? Yeah I. Don't think you could Disa- -sarily. Obviously we saw with Bill Clinton where there was, there was able to have civil proceedings, and there's some limitations to this. I think it's smart habit so your your president is not constantly paraded by requests and a harassment essentially might people who don't like him, and you can see that in New York. There's a lot of people who don't like him. They're constantly going after every little thing. He's ever done to try to get information that they will. Will obviously leak to the press Tang. The tax records has nothing to do with stormy Daniels what they want is information to leak to the press like his tax records like financial statements anything that looks Kinda shady and that stuff will happen. It is tough to to for the supreme. Court come down in rural and say look. The president can never be investigated while in office. That's that's a standard that I. Don't know what I'm comfortable with A long-term because God forbid someone like Hillary gets an office. Nothing will ever You know who she'll be able to do whatever she wants. But I think generally speaking. They probably got that one right. Those those that split of those two, though whenever I see Clarence Thomas on the other side of a ruling. I get very nervous about my opinion on it I have not gone through the entire opinion yet, but you know that this is what I think was expected going on. I, that was going to be my commentaries, I think this is what is expected I. think it's right, but it's a fishing expedition. Yeah! Stormy Daniels is Bate, it's. And you know, and she's going to sell a couple extra books and things, but this is about. Let's get in there and see. What did he fun? What is where is invested? Other any shells and they're looking for things and I think we're going to see more of this unfortunately I mean. It they they're going after junior a lot. Don Jr. going after the family they play fell, and I said this before it's time for him. Maybe turn it back on them and say okay. Let's go after onto. You WanNa. Do this. Let's go. Let's turn up the heat which I'd be interested to see I know they're what a month ago two months ago, there were some subpoenas that were sent out in. Regards to you, know some of hunters business dealings, but I haven't heard. Anything. To my knowledge I don't know it's been pretty silent, but also we have to ask yourself. What's the precedent that's being set or has been set in the past where Bill Clinton on a ruling like this right, and are we setting a new precedent seems like we are every week somewhere right, but all the rules are different for trump. Trump but your point, he's just saying. This is how you labeled me. You can't come after me for this, so you can't come after me for this. You know so I kind of expected that to go down that way. Yeah, and look I think there's a constant pressure. If you're Donald Trump on, you know people are always going to be coming after you, he obviously. Obviously if he's if he's competent and good this job and good at running a campaign, he's going to number. One realize that it's going to happen, and it'd be prepared for it and to be preparing exactly what you're talking about. If he's able to go after Joe Biden if they found things, it's very likely that he's got a rollout plan for that over the next. Really Hope I saw today one hundred eighteen days by the way. which a! Lot closer than it feels fast. You would think that this stuff's coming out in large form within the next month, I would think I mean we get to the end of the summer and he's still down. I think right now. You can't panic, but it's like you get down to the end of the summer. You into September. And you know there's still a ten point gap you know I'm the president and his people will be panicking I. Know when you're on a bicycle and you're slow peddling. Pedal No I'm just telling you rhyme. There's so much we need to get through before the election to build the case and I'm looking at one hundred eighty something that he's GonNa go this so much. We better start. We need you need to get on the offense? Well we'll see if he actually does so the the second Supreme Court decision of note that was handed down had day STU I. Heard you discussing this on radio, so I know your. Way through. I did so I know that you are familiar with it, so what walk us through? I heard you work your way through it and I. I'm still navigating my way through it. Yeah, it's a really interesting case actually and I. You know it's a bizarre one so basically. It's a story of a Guy Native American guy in Oklahoma. WHO terrible horrible human being in every way possible kills and rape! Kills a four year old. Okay, so you caught. They figure he's done it and they sent some to a thousand years in prison. The state does so. They're looking for a way out of this and they go to the court and they say. Well this I had this treaty here, and it says the technically this half of Oklahoma is Indian reservation land, and therefore you can't charge a state. And then they looked, stopped and looked back in hoped that they would agree stomach. How again this rose all the way up through the courts gorsuch ruled on it previously. He's recused himself initially from from this ruling, but then voted today with the liberals to make a five four decision to. To say that, yes, it actually is a native American reservation, which is fascinating, 'cause it's like half the state and a good chunk of Tulsa. Yes, right which is, is it amazing development now I'll tell you I spent time almost eighteen months a native American reservation in in North Dakota and tribal council customs rule especially if it's if it's recognized or unrecognized tribe, but to just come and say half of the State is native. American now. Think of the other implications now because they deal with many things. Autonomously on the reservation, not there's one case again. What is this now open? That was my first thought is oh. This is a can of worms. They just opened something today. Have no understanding you talk about down to. Gambling licenses in states they dislike in literally. Methamphetamines and drug traffic all these things. All of a sudden on reservation gets dealt with very differently. Be I, the Bureau of Indian Affairs looks at those things very differently in tribal council and tribunal, then the state, and what the state can and cannot prosecute so i. don't this one's GonNa come back to bite them I. Think Honestly Yeah, it's it's fascinating to see what the repercussions are going to be in the descent. Roberts said lose sight. It was talking about the opinion, said well. The court tells us that it's not that big of deal. Because only ten to fifteen percent of the population is Indian American in indicating only indian-americans would be affected by this. which again we'll see, it's GonNa. Go through the courts. The idea being that anyone who has committed a crime in this area who is native American, now has a really freaking argument to go back and say hey, let me out of prison whether he robbed a bank whether you murdered someone rather you, you know you, Jay. Walk to many times wanted to be tried by my my my tribal council versus State Law and I think they're also be an argument to go back and say hey. You find me ten thousand dollars ten years ago. I want it back with interest. All of this would be is going to be on the table and going to be tested like crazy. You know if you read the Gorsuch argument and I haven't read all of it because it happened while we were on the air. But. You can't read beyond. Just see us with our phones overheated while doing this. flagler. You heard the actually tried to do it on the air. That's how it came out, so if you want to see how that experiment goes. But his. The technical. The textual argument Greenwich makes is relatively compelling. It's like they said it's a permanent area. It's in here. They will always be able to govern themselves like. Is Very very clear with the federal government, said and Gorsuch wasn't saying. Hey, this is the greatest development of all time. He was saying Congress this up and they didn't do it right so if they until they fix it, this is this is the law of the land this the conservative argument on it seemed to be more focussed around and and Thomas made this point of like this is actually should be a state a state argument here. But I mean gorsuch multiple colts where they said this, you will never be a state argument because it's federal, and that's right, and that's their argument. Tribal Territories federally assigned and that's why the I is. There is federal, so it's a tough argument, but if I can't. Get back to the child. And then you get it just shows you customs right into I just think it opens up things to happen in what a normal person! In that state! My think this is our territory. Not Our charity crime committed. On that Tori maybe territory. Maybe even a father against a child who's both native American villages. It creates a messy. Judicial Environment Yeah Mess. It's true and it's frustrating. Is You know none of the four liberals agreed with Gorsuch was saying. Like they just want the land to go this way, the the has they don't agree with the argument. Gorsuch was making a nuanced conservative argument, and all the other conservatives were like. No, it's the wrong way to go. I. Think you look at this from from this case, this cases perspective this one murderer slash rapist. Likely. What's going to happen is he will need to be He can't be held, but the federal government can still charge them and prosecute them, and they will follow up with that the federal government going to raise a child murderer. Go back out on the streets for very long. The issue is more of those mid level crimes on the state. If you were, if you if you had a maybe even a manslaughter, or if you had a bank robbery, or if you had a you know a domestic abuse violation like the federal government can't prosecute an entire half states worth of claims all at the same time. A lot of these people are GONNA wind up getting out. And that's not a good thing especially when they've committed serious crimes like that. All, right? We've got more coming up. I want to thank our sponsor Patriot mobile so I don't know I. Don't know what you're waiting for. 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Democratic, Houston Mayor Senator Turner has now decided to take action to assure the shutdown of the Texas Republican Party's State Convention slated for next week, he had been kind of warning them. Hey, guys! If Cova doesn't gotten under control, we are going to have to have some sort of you know. Maybe people are going to have to come in and check My my thought process was okay. He's asking for people to come in and check so that they can shut them down anyway, but he didn't actually waste any time. Let that happen He has decided to down the Texas. GOP Convention over coronavirus concerns. Now I will say though. This same mayor who shut down the Texas GOP convention was marching in the George Floyd protests show. Yeah, right so not sure what his lake thought process was in whether or not he was worried about contracting coronavirus at that particular point in time, but now anyway they are. They're blocking the Republican Gop Convention. My question though is why would you have the Republican State Convention in Houston? Not like in Fort, worth or some you know. Yeah. Houston seems like a weird place to have it. The suburbs are are read. The city is not in fact. Really. Kind of last holdout, and even that's not really all that. Red Anymore. But it'd be. A lot more at least kind of purplish compared to something like Houston, which is like. Arcor read our blue. it's interesting because as you mentioned the mayor marching Lanta just came out. She has Kovic. She was at one of the marches. I mean. This is actually happening I. Keep saying go well. We don't see a huge spike in these cities because of these marches well when they when you go and read the reports. What they're saying is people were so terrified. All the buildings burning down. They didn't leave their house so that they're not saying that. People at the protest got less Kobe. They're saying everyone else was shut in for that week, and so none of them got it. which is a totally different spent, or if you're in New York, the contact tracers were told not to touch. If you went to the protest this amazing, isn't it? I think you're right. It would be. There's plenty of other places that it would be better to vote the Republican convention. I keep coming back to the same thing. Run this by you guys, because because you know I like I totally. I think we all agree on the personal liberty front like these restrictions should not be coming from the government when it comes to these when it comes to covid. I. Don't like any of that or at least I want to avoid every sliver of it that I possibly tank from that perspective, but of course we all WanNa be safe and do the things that would help I see so much of this arguing about you know fighting back against these recommendations, and sometimes they're good, and sometimes they're bad, but from straight political hackery lake from the point of like all I care about is Donald Trump being elected? Let's say you're that person. The that person right now is saying basically two things number one. This isn't a serious as a as they're saying. It is and number two. I'm not wearing a mask it out of my way. I'll do what I want. Those two things are actually working against Donald Trump being elected if if if you. If. You want to say I. Don't want to do those things that's great, but the idea of the best possible Kovic situation in November is incredibly important to Donald Trump's election. If this is out of control in November we are going to have a president. That's going to have a very difficult time making the case. Hey I did a good job with this crisis, right? secondarily and I keep coming back to this one and trump is on this bandwagon, but doesn't seem like any of his supporters are key got reports from scientists that said two million people are going to die. Now I don't believe two million people were going to die from it. Although a lot of people it's not been. It has not been good, but he he has two directions to go on. This one is to say they've been giving us this hype all this all this time and it's been these numbers have been way too high or hey they. They told me two million people are going to die and one hundred thirty thousand have died. We save ninety percent of the deaths that is a much better argument to be able to make to the American people than the reverse, and I think like he's. He has explicitly tried to make that multiple times like hey. Guys like I this was really serious. They came to me if I didn't do anything were big trouble I. May I took tough stances and look. We saved almost all of the deaths. What are what are Democrats going to say that? We could have made it only I'm you know ninety thousand? There's we all know it's a really serious thing, so it's an interesting thing. Just political hackery wise most people are making those points because they believe them right, and that's a totally different thing, but usually like we all get to the point where we all just get the political hack thing right and I don't know people aren't doing this time. Honestly? I think that it's an I'll let you answer, but I think that it enough people are concerned about the ramifications down the road, the repercussions on the road if you let the government say with. At least at best conflicting evidence, right conflicting evidence, you let the government say you. We get to mandate this and you don't get a say in it. I feel like there's enough people that can see the ramifications of that down the road but I'll let you. You have the medical background. Love hearing your thoughts on this. I really do Do. I think what you're seeing is people. Coming I'm coming at you. I think what you're seeing as. You know the game. Be Played Two BS game. You're calling, BS, yeah, the American crawling. BS. They go. You know what we're taking over I think you're gonNA see a surge. Of that now how he had he been the president handles. It is very important the only way to play this as They told you two million. We curb it at one hundred and fifty or whatever thousand. Look at look at how we how we fought this thing. That's the only angle to to run this by right because I don't think you can stop your your fly over states at this moment. They are they're revolting. They're saying I'm not wearing masks. I'm not doing it. You're not telling me what to do. When a stand on my freedom and I think he just going to see more of that, so how he navigates in channels, the conversation from the White House is going to be really really. Tough line. As well so I guess what I'm hearing from. You is that they're they're not. You're thinking. They're going to look at the end game of getting trump elected, but instead of looking at that as being the end game, they're looking at the end game later on down the road as to how the slippery slope could be used against them later because I'm much more friendly, honestly, I don't really care about the political hackery game. Yeah, friendly to person long-term argument I mean part of that long-term argument may very well be Donald. Trump is no longer president and then. We have to consider. This because it if we all want to be right on this right, but if we're all and we go out and we all kind of do whatever we want. And we spread this further. It could wind up sinking his reelection chances. I mean if this gets out of control, it's going to be almost impossible for him to win if he can control it if he comes off as a competent guy who said I got dealt a terrible hand done everything I could to minimize this. That's totally defensible position. I think one that the American people will see no one can. Do you think they mutually inclusive? I think exclusive think how the how the people behave the fly over states right outside the city, right? I think he can make that argument and shoot, and they can still say enough is enough. We're not going to buy into the world. Health Organization into the into the fact, she. And Barks. We're going to take control of our own communities. That's we. That's what we're GONNA. We're not wearing I think they can coexist. But the message he sends ultimately his other going to give his base confidence that okay. He's confident. I think so important. Have you seen what happens in the chatter on? You know on social media when he has a good speech. This like a steroid shot. So He's base wants to see him coughing. Dammit, they said two million. We stopped. We stopped, and whether we means how you should really wear a mask or not. Whatever that's what's going to drive it into the polls? I. Think they're absolutely what I'm hearing saying down the road. Yeah, you're not taking my liberties from me, man, I don't care to come hell or high water, not taking I'm I'm I'm bunkering up gaining mo I'm getting you know I'm I'm not doing this and I think like that. There's a the intersection. I think of both of what we're talking about is. We fight against the government mandating these things. And we fight against what we think is irrational right, but we don't fight against everything that is said by medical professional, just because we're pissed off and I think there is a reactionary element right now we're that does happen too much. But we we could still all say like. Let's just say you think masks are good a good idea? If the government's mandating, you could still say hey, don't don't mandate these on us. That's not the way but I'm still going to wear my want to go into the store because I. Think it helps combat is I think a sensible position, but how do you? How do you motivate the government to not mandated? If you're like well, I don't agree with it, but I'm going to do it anyway. It's a tough position. Yeah, an understandable one. But how do you your point to the government? It's a distinction on personal liberty. I think that's the only road to go down and I think that's that's very American. Uniting American concept that we can say like you know like I'm able to get hammered every single night and you know Sarah if if it wasn't for the practice, he might be, but like there's a lot of things i. I can do I can go. I can go to a strip club every night, too, but I don't do it because it's, it's not something I want to be involved in. We can still say that can be allowed and not participate in it. And I think we just have to try to draw distinction as much as possible not only to help. If hopefully those things do help if they help people's lives great if it helps to. The political outcome great. But like I think the same way it's annoying when you walk into a store and someone shames you for not wearing a mask, we shouldn't do the opposite either and mock everybody who exactly exactly what I think wolf has been cry. Wolf has been cried so much. Yeah, with no data to back it up the changed position so often that now you're seeing pushback. It's a knee jerk reaction. It's hard to go guy going pushback. Saying don't push so hard. Play Nice because we're focusing on first week in November here and he goes. Hey I'm my family my freedom the next fifteen years. They're not taking. This is what's happening. Aren't we've got a lot more to get into I? WanNa, thank our sponsor. This segment real estate agents. 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But let me just give you some specifics about the proposal, and I'll get your thoughts on it, so it is the first part is four hundred billion dollar investment. To purchase American products like cement, concrete steel, other materials to rebuild the infrastructure, and the second part is a three hundred billion dollar investment in research for new technologies electric vehicles because it's always goes very well. When the federal government gets involved in electric vehicles, artificial intelligence and five G.. His plan also calls for new tax breaks credits for small manufacturers, including I love this including those run by minorities and women just in case you thought. He was going to leave out the small business manufacturers that were run by business by women and minorities. Okay, and with Levy penalties on companies take federal money, and then move their investments over seas. It'll be stunned if he said except for the broads wouldn't be stunned by that came out of. I, love I want stunned. What are your thoughts on I mean look you know this is he's. One of the Instincts Donald trump that is consistent with many on the left. Is this sort of protectionist instincts right like I mean? This is something he. His trade policy's very similar to what Bernie Sanders trade policy is so this is probably a smart move by the Biden campaign trying to take something that they can essentially agree with with trump on and is popular by. By the way it's a popular instinct that trump has and that the left has. This is something you can go into a big statement. Try to get some people on his side on the economic standpoint cut into that economic advantage. That trump is sure shirt to have even the. We're in this situation right now. Differentiate yourself when trump has already kind of claimed yet territory. We're probably the thought is. We're not going to beat trump on the economy and right so instead. Let's take the popular parts of his and just. Give him a nice big hug. A bunch of money at it, and you know what trump will probably come back and say trillion dollars. Honestly, they'll probably out do that. because you know this is, this is his. He's already proposed multiple trillion dollar stimulus type packages, so I mean it's not, it's not out of character for you. Know It's not like he's like I want to zero taxes like he's not. They're not doing anything out of character for left, but they're seeing that. Hey, this is popular is trump's. We can kind of you know. What do they call us? Call the appropriate. The culture are appropriate, trump culture, a little bit in here, trying to bring it in I think fatten. Let me tell you something. This is out goes down debate number one when he brings this up. Trump's excuse me, excuse me, Joe Thank you for endorsing my plan. Just. Thank you for running for vice president of the United States. I'M GONNA. Stick with Mike. Okay. This is this is yeah this this literally, this actually is. This is a forfeit. I see this as a all right on this point on the ground round to trump. Round trip and you don't recover from it even if you say well because to his base, his ace of spades. It's the ace of spades. Is the economy so you telling trump? You do actually handle the economy correctly. We're actually GONNA model after you write. When he wrote that statements was like he took built Ford tough. Trump's campaign in meriden. Oh, trump owns both of those. I mean come on. This to me as round victory, trump hands down. I'm surprised by this. I hear what you're saying that it's smart. Because you can't counter it. But you can't differentiate well, you can't. There's no way you win through this true, but I always feel like with the mainstream media. You know defending everything Joe. Biden says and does may I mean he may have a shot at at poking holes in. They're trying it right now. With the coronavirus. They're trying to hit trump on the economy I mean I don't think that. That most Americans will really felt trump for that, but I'm surprised. He didn't take the angle of I'm just gonNA, poke holes in this and expect the media to cover for me and carry my water and just see what happens. I think it's consistent generally with what Biden would want to do I mean. Biden has an actual like platform because I feel like he's just. The generalized Democratic Platform is being. Pro Union. It's on that same. The the by in America thing was initially a pro union instinct right, and so it's consistent with that. It's not like it's not like saying we all of a sudden. I'm against you know. I don't know I'm very pro war, or whatever whatever I want a really low taxes. It's consistent generally with with Democrats. Do and I think they see look. TRUMP IS GONNA win this part of this. Let's just chip into it as much as we can and win on other battlefields where we think we have an advantage, and they do think they haven't advanced a lot of these things whether that's true or not. When it comes to an election is is another question, but they think they can beat him on on the corona virus response, and and you know Issues, and and all these other things where polling shows there in a much better position here even with this disaster that we're in the middle of people still rate trump pretty well in the economy, and is one of the more popular things that he does I. Mean Personally I would much rather have us have situation where we free up American a businesses to compete and win rather than having to give them the win because. Of the American economy has been able to do that for hundreds of years and I think we can continue to do it if we freed our economy up, but I do understand why this happens, and especially in a situation like this where we're losing all these jobs saying like hey, we're gonNA. Take all this money and we're GONNA spend it on American jobs to make sure people are back at work is an. An instinct that people are going to love so why not jump on this bandwagon? You can say this is the one thing you agree with him. And when they asked that dumb question at every debate. What's one thing you give Donald Trump credit for well. We both agree. We're want to spend seven hundred billion dollars on. I would come back with that. Right away and say I D- regulate regulate. You're going to. To do this by throwing a ton of regulation on it, because that show nature, and then all of a sudden, comes the knee, jerk, or wait a minute I wanNA build the economy, but not with increased regulation, and I would have hammer him on regulation I would go after him like hammer and nails, because okay, so you agree with me when you want to build an America, but you want to regulate you. You WanNa take the competitive nature out of this country, which talking about which has driven us to excellence. Right that this is why we just had spacex look whenever you compete. You're going to win i. mean because you get better so I would go after regulation because they will regulate, they will tax and I would just go back to their their Achilles heel right, but remember trump took something out of their party. And champion and that net is infrastructure They've always run an infrastructure infrastructure avian here he comes in. He goes. I'm an infrastructure guy. I built stuff. We're going to build stuff the right now. Oh snap! So I. Don't know it's interesting. I think you said something. I think fo- holes and media cover for me, because I don't think Biden Kit in a debate. Actually cover that strategically as A. This is how we implement it. Can Biden cover anything sir? May. Be On a good day. Letters. Yeah, that's that's a lot for him. These days all right? We've got more coming up. I want to thank our sponsor rough Greens, so if you are a dog owner all right, you want the best for your dog. You think maybe that you are buying This really expensive dog food that they're getting all of the appropriate nutrients, but you don't realize. Is that all of the dry dog food that you're buying? It has to have a long shelf life right so it's good for like ten million years, but it also they've already killed all of the good alive nutrients in there that your dog needs, and that's why it's good for ten million years. That is why you need rough Greens. 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Go to rough Greens dot com slash blazed at his you F- F Greens dot com slash blaze. Yesterday Amazon announced that the Washington redskins merchandise that they had available on their site would no longer be offered now. Amazon is the latest I hadn't realized that there were so many retailers now. Amazon Walmart target and Nike who have already stated they would not sell Washington redskins gear anymore. It's interesting now. The redskins have only revealed that they are looking into their reviewing the team's name right, they haven't. They haven't come out and said like we are going to change the name. They'll do you think yes. Absolutely, they haven't done it yet. They haven't done it. There's a bunch of reports out saying they're going to do it. There's a report today that said that they're not only going to change it, but there will be no native American imagery, which means removing the logo designed by a native American to try to promote the native American heritage. They're going to take that away from native Americans, who again between seventy and ninety percent of those approve of the name or at least. least don't don't find it offensive care. They're going to take all that away. Because you know one of my friends, you know Dan Andrews who were here and he's been. You know our my show million times. You've been on the show chip He's a big redskins fan, and he's like I am done with the NFL. If they changed his name, that was the first thing he said. And I started pushing them on like so Sunday's and you're not gonNA turn these Games on. He's like well. The look if they keep the logo and they changed it to like warriors or something. Maybe, but he's like hung up on this local because a logo is. A native American model of real native American designed by native American to promote native American culture native Americans. Love it, and they're gonNA to take it away because you know what US white people. We have a much better idea. What native Americans should be offended exactly? Say Go to the group would effects and ask them and they're saying no problem problem. We're feeling represented. Here's my comeback to Amazon great now you sell all you emerged through your store at this is a great great financial opportunity for the redskins organization. Risking gear. All your money right here. Yeah, I mean I think they've lost their spine them. I think they absolutely what so do was IT FEDEX? St Think it was fedex. That did it the one I would say yes. Fedex was the most important one. They have naming rights to the stadium. It's a big deal. I think there's also an element of they've been dealing with this for so long. The redskins Snyder has been very strong on this entire time, but now he's in this point where I think he's thinking I'm sick of doing this I'm sick of this. My life and everyone else's folding. And get this over with. Don't have to deal with it anymore. It's sad. Honestly it was. OPIE doesn't because that's not gonNA stand is possible I I think he's getting pressure from the NFL. Though now. At this point their decision, it's not it's his decision. and I think the you know. I think the Fedex thing is big, but you look. Could they get another sponsor in? They're probably maybe not as big money, maybe not nice name as As Fedex but you know this is a business and I think that's how he's looking at it. Probably, I mean their statement was. We're going to take a long look. What are you talking about? This is about you. You've been dealing with for decades. You know what the dynamics of the situation are on. All these companies are pathetic. I mean like Walmart that's pathetic, you know. Know what this this issue has been. You know what the name has been. You know the history of the name that it was applied initially by native Americans to native Americans it was used as a term of endearment through the treaties eighteen thirteen through when the when the policy was actually when the name was actually chosen for the Washington Redskins of the football team it. It, it was a compliment. We know all the polling that shows native Americans are behind it. Everything about the factual situation involved in this case indicates they should keep the name, and they're not keeping it because we live in a time where no one cares about the truth anymore. You know we've talked about AMA- before. African Americans were the number. One purchasers are purchasers of this. Pancake and Syrup, product and what they do, they rip it off You know what here's one of your favorite products in the entire supermarket? You can't buy it anymore. Because we white people know better than you. You should be offended by. How can anyone Stanford this? I mean that's the exception. Process and actually what it does. Is You actually undermining the very group? Use so-called protect if you don't care because they're telling you. Want it. Keep it! No, you don't know well I. Don't know what's good for you. Pretty Racist, if you think extremely right including the superior race, so you're going to tell the other how they should feel. That's internal racial superiority. percent all right. I hope he stands. Keep the name. The logo I don't think it's going to happen. Also I. Don't like the Redskins anyway so. I would have more respect of Amazon if Amazon just said. We are not selling it anymore. Because the redskin suck, they went four games of. Right. Much more respectable business decision all right back in a minute. Can Agree. Rarely happens. That's the giants only having coffee. To! Yesterday's Paul. It's weird. It brings up. A new wall brings up a new. This cain West is on the twenty. Who Will you vote for I? There's another. West and Kane Kane. Kane West. I'm sorry. Showing media I couldn't help myself. On, the on the actual on the actual choice, if Kanye West is on the twenty twenty, who will you vote for eighty five percent, almost eighty six percent of you, said trump followed by almost seven percent of you who said Konya? Not Nothing Joe Biden's only three point one, but then four point. Two percent of you said you're not voting, even that be guided. Urging lesson. This is a very scientific poll so now we know how many people are. Voting for Joe Biden specifically like to the T- today's poll longer till things get back normal three months six months a year or never. You guys I mean back to normal is probably year and year. Until we're really settled in with maybe a vaccine or treatment or something where they think this is better I mean I I want to norm I mean big gatherings right? I mean football games. Like I think we. We should be able to inch back more and more again. I don't feel all that limited around here. Occasionally you have to wear a mask or you don't want to, or someone is wearing a mask where it's. Generally speaking, you know we've been open for a while long as it doesn't get much much worse, I I just despise the fact that other countries can move faster than we do. Yeah, got forty six thousand fans in new. Zealand in stadiums now i. my my gut wants. By heart wants to say six months. But knowing the left. I'm. Think you'RE GONNA. Go November fourth everything. Everyone's cared. Finally gets off other high firebomb. Don't forget. Power Hour has special one hundred episode celebration Chat raiders going to be there. I'm going to be there. Have agent lawyer is going to be there. Tomorrow Nine PM Eastern. Nine PM.

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Trump backs down, announces deal to reopen gov't for 3 weeks; Roger Stone indictment, he sought stolen emails in coordination with Trump campaign officials; Roger Stone's long history of dirty politics

The Lead with Jake Tapper

45:40 min | 1 year ago

Trump backs down, announces deal to reopen gov't for 3 weeks; Roger Stone indictment, he sought stolen emails in coordination with Trump campaign officials; Roger Stone's long history of dirty politics

"Tired of spending hundreds of dollars prescription glasses. Xeni offers thousands of affordable eyewear styles starting at just six ninety five visits any today at Zanny dot com slash CNN. Hi, everyone. Poppy, Harlow gear in this week's episode of boss, files, charity, water, founder and CEO. Scott Harrison, how he went from nightclub promoter to seal philanthropist founding the nonprofit charity water sense brought clean water nearly ten million people poor communities around the world. His story is remarkable vowing to turn his life one hundred and eighty degrees. Check it out on my boss fouls podcast today. Thirty five days of a government shutdown with absolutely nothing to Chievo except a whole lot of pain inflicted on the American people. The lead starts right now. Breaking news, President Trump announces that the longest shutdown in this nation's history is over thousands of people hundreds of thousands were paid nothing because of it, and it looks like that's exactly what President Trump got out of this for now. Nothing more, huge breaking news. A major moment in the Russia pro of long time Trump ally. Roger stone dragged out of his house and into a courtroom today and the indictment reads, literally like a mob movie, he cut his teeth during Watergate has an image of Richard Nixon tattooed on his back and was once fired for having swinger fever, Ken Roger stone, convince Robert Muller that he is not a crook. We're taking a deeper dive into stones long and sleazy. Career. This is CNN breaking news. Welcome to the lead on Jake tapper. We start with breaking news in our national lead. President Trump just announced there is finally a deal to reopen. The federal government after a thirty five day shutdown the longest in US history. President Trump now says, hey, he's okay with short term deal one that includes exactly zero point zero dollars for his border wall. The reason for the shutdown zero point zero dollars, which coincidentally is exactly equal to the last two paychecks for eight hundred thousand federal workers proving the government has been shut down now for thirty five days for absolutely no reason. President Trump up ended the process of funding the government to demand something that he never got. He inflicted pain on more than a million Americans for no reason, no result, adding insult to injury moments ago, Senator Schumer, the democratic leader in the Senate scolded, President Trump for this long unnecessary battle. Hopefully now, the president has learned his lesson. We cannot cannot ever hold American workers hostage again. Silence. Galen Collins joins me now live from the White House. Caitlyn this new government funding Bill it's only for three weeks. What happens? Bear with me. Now what happens if at the end of this three week period? The president still is not going to see any border wall money. Well, Jake, according to what he told reporters in the rose garden today. The government will shut down or hill. Invoke a national emergency to bypass congress to then fund and build his border wall. Now today, he faced the pill political reality that Democrats do not want to pay for the president's border wall. And now he's facing down the question of what he'll do in three weeks. If they still haven't changed their minds. I am very proud to announce today that we have reached a deal to end the shutdown and reopen the federal government President Trump backing off his thirty five day standoff with Democrats today announcing a deal to reopen the government temporarily in short while I will sign a Bill to open our government for three weeks until February fifteenth the president endorsement in the rose garden paving the way for congress to pass spending bills that would reopen the government for three weeks, but the deal is seen as a cave to Democrats who the president has failed to force to pay for his border wall. Once again, I am asking Senate majority leader Mitch McConnell to put this proposal on the floor immediately Trump, implying if he can't come to an agreement with Democrats in the next three weeks hill, invoke a national emergency and bypass congress. If we don't. Get a fair deal from congress. The government will either shut down on February fifteenth again or I will use the powers afforded to me under the laws and the constitution of the United States. To address this emergency, the short-term spending Bill only includes one point three billion for border security and no new funding for the wall making it a remarkable comedown for a president who declared for weeks he wouldn't waiver. But today framed it as a win. This is an opportunity for all parties to work together for the benefit of our whole beautiful wonderful nation. The presidential announcement coming after a White House officials said air travel delays that rippled across the nation. Friday, played a major role in his decision telling CNN, this is getting worse and worse. He knows this has to end. And after members of the president's inner circle faced backlash for downplaying the financial hardship of the shutdown Trump making a point to thank them today. Many of you have suffered far greater than anyone, but your family would know. Or understand? Now, Jake, the longest government shutdown in history hasn't yielded anything for the president. He didn't get any money for his border wall. He's frustrated Republicans. He didn't do his base any favors by caving to the Democrats demands today, and he even took a hit in the polls. Now, there are two things to watch over the next few days. That's whether or not the president tries to move forward with that initially scheduled state of the union address on Tuesday and to how he responds to the overwhelmingly negative response from people who are in his conservative hardline immigration base. Jake Collins with the White House. Thanks so much. Well, let's chat about this. I'll start with you did the president cave. Sure. And he had to because he was losing support for Republican senators held enough senators to prevent the democratic both in passing yesterday. But the Democrats got more votes than the Republicans, which doesn't usually happen to fifty seven forty Republican Senate, and I think they had they had their regular launch. Or maybe it's not so regular Thursday. The of all the senators it went two hours instead of the normal one or two and a half hours. I think perhaps would real expressions of discontent and sort of this. I can't hold this anymore. Not from you know, Susan Collins and Lisa Murkowski, but from Senator bozeman of Arkansas all kinds of loyalists in the Republican conference who were getting phone calls from their state from the workers. But also from businessmen from cultural interests saying, this is crazy. This cannot go on so Trump cave to reality. You only got this three week extension, which means that weeks. What happens with three weeks by? He'll probably I my guess would be he invokes the national emergency. Yes. It's it's less than not getting anything. Like he lost a lot. You think about it in the thirty five days. He lost one point six billion that he would have had agreed to the the legislation that would have passed before the shutdown outlaws for boys security and law. He lost a critical amount of leverage Nancy Pelosi now know is exactly when he's willing where he'll cave and what his pain points are. And then the other thing is I I think the bills point which he's lost one of the bigger problems going forward and the next three weeks. He may have lost. The faith of some of his strongest supporters previously up on Capitol Hill, and that doesn't give them any sort of, you know, additional leverage going forward and Senator let me pointed this, perhaps not coincidentally this morning. We saw some even more dire response, obviously for the eight hundred thousand employees in the contractors. It's been awful, but this morning. We saw mass flight delays. There was a stoppage at LaGuardia. The FBI director director released a video slamming the shutdown. The Trump appointed FBI director at least fourteen thousand IRS workers just didn't go to work. And then it was the second day without a paycheck the second period. Yeah. Affecting a full month of no pants the second paycheck period for the hundred thousand federal points. This is a hot mess the president's hot mess. You know, this is a hot mess and more importantly about who which side one in terms of just the pure politics over eight hundred thousand people, and that's not even counting the contract workers have suffered through this for a president who got absolutely nothing. He brung the pain too. All of these people. He got nothing in return for this. And all they got his grief. And then also we know as big as the bureaucracy is they're not going to recover from this tomorrow. If the president had any any pride about himself. He would make sure that all of the people who are required to be there to process cheques where they are right now through the weekend. Whatever it took to make sure that these workers got their money, but he really doesn't care and that was shown by him. It was shown by people who work in his administration. Some even his family members weighed in on this. I think is daughter-in-law said, okay. This is bigger than one person. Is that kind of is beyond Cavaliers really sickening that the president would take the people impacted by this directly and then to call Dr Martin Luther King junior. What affects one directly affects us all indirectly all of America was impact. Now, you can't live in Washington DC, which obviously has a lot of federal workers hearing from cab drivers Uber drivers or food truck owners. How awful things have been for the last month's Ray. And John I want to get to a point the Kevin. So that you brought up also yesterday. Hey, which is flashback a couple months. Nancy Pelosi people are saying issue even going to be elected speaker of the house or enough Democrats that are wavering on her thirty something Democrats said they weren't gonna vote for her. Where is Nancy Pelosi now when it comes to the democratic caucus? Well, it's really remarkable. I mean, if you look at where we were in November, even after the Democrats won back the house. There was so much uncertainty that we were all talking about here about could she be elected speaker. How would she fight off the moderates, etc? And now the wall and Trump's insistence on the wall has actually unified the Democratic Party Pelosi strength and kind of standing firm on this has unified the Democratic Party and the democratic caucus at a time where it is very diverse with forty new members. So that has been a real gift to her. And I would say she has not she's never been more powerful than she is today because of that. And if you look at what has happened over the past couple of days, even Trump supporters sort of. Kevin's point are questioning now whether she is actually running the government and not Trump, and that's not a place. That's not what is happening. But that's not a place. You want your supporters and former staff to be he looks weak. And that is a a something he always fights again. Now, of course, there is this discussion that's going to go forward now about whether there will be sort of any any border, wall negotiation or an immigration reform, whatever I don't know how it's going to happen. But but Schumer talked about maybe a conference committee. We'll see listen to what President Trump said about what Democrats were telling him privately. They have said they are for complete border security, and they have finally and fully acknowledged that having barriers fencing or walls, or whatever you wanna call. It will be an important part of the solution. I always talking about who knows I come back to the Republican senators. I mean, this is sort of in the polls it's hurt him in the country has been having my opinion. But I just think we say Trump insists on this Trump is Hanley is able to fight back on that. It's because he has had the Republican Senate. Now, they've lost the house behind him. And I think that is now very precarious. They McConnell held his people together at some cost to himself. You know, what people wanted to bolt earlier the senators kept voting loyally or refused. Supporter McConnell, refusing every anything to the floor for four weeks at that. And then voted yesterday except for six stick around. We're going to stick with them. So I mean, the degree to which the going forward, and he will not have the automatic support of the Senate majority leader or Republican senators, I think can't be arrested. Yeah. We'll sing. I sing. We're going to keep talking about this did the democratic leader of the Senate just double dog dare President Trump to declare a national emergency. Then also there's another little story. Breaking today. FBI agents arresting President Trump's longtime friend and ally. Your stone in an early morning rate. We have stones very clear message to President Trump after his release. Stay with us. Remember to create an ad like this one visit pure winning dot com slash CNN. No, one should ever underestimate the speaker as Donald Trump has learned Democrats stayed totally unified. That was Senator Chuck Schumer the democratic leader of the Senate just moments ago touting the power of speaker of the house, Nancy Pelosi and her unified democratic caucus. I want to go to CNN's Magno Raji on Capitol Hill and mono, you were at that news conference speaker Pelosi chose her words, very carefully. But Schumer was the one thing President Trump needed to learn a lesson is it possible. However that we're in for a repeat of the shutdown in three weeks when this new government funding Bill runs out. It's very possible. Jake. In fact, I tried to press the speaker at this press conference, whether she be more open now to funding for the president's border wall. What was interesting that she did not explicitly say, she's sort of sidestepped? The question said that this is going to be up to the discussions of negotiators going forward. I and she said to me well, haven't I been cleared by position on the wall. And I said, well what about right now the next three weeks, and she would. Say going forward, but still hard to see your coming to where the president wants to deal with that can be reached most people do expect we may end up in the same position. We're on right now. Jake and Monod does this mean that there might be a new invitation for the president to deliver his state of the union address in the house chamber, and if so when great question we'd try to ask for that. At this press conference, an African she would not say explicitly. In fact, the state of the union, of course, was supposed to take initially on Tuesday that has been delayed during the shutdown and asked if Tuesday was still a date that the state of the union would go forward. She said they were going to agree on a mutually agreeable date after the government is reopened. And so she would not save it happen, Tuesday or wouldn't happen afterwards. Reporters trying to pressure about that after this press conference. Well, she would not say so another question going forward, perhaps Jake she wants to see these the ink the ink dry on the legislation to reopen. The government before she goes forward and agrees to invite the president. Here to those chamber Jake. Yeah. You want to wait for the document to be signed. I think that's that's fair. Maharaja? Thanks so much maharaja on Capitol Hill. Let's continue our conversation. Senator Turner ticket. Look at this new poll new Washington Post ABC new poll shows Americans blamed for the shutdown. More Fifty-three percent, say President Trump and Republican legislators thirty four percent say speaker Pelosi Democrats ten percent playing blame both. Now, also take a look at the president's latest job approval. Number thirty seven percent approval. I'm starting to laugh, but that's just really low fifty seven percent disapprove. It does seem like there was political pressure. Really starting to build on President Trump was taken he asked for it. And he got it. This is what he want one it. And sometimes you gotta be careful what you ask for. He was very glib about you know out. I'll take ownership of the shutdown his mind, but the pressures that mounted especially the human suffering was more than not necessarily for him. But more than the members of his Republican party because STAN at. Certain point. So this is his shutdown. He owns it. And those polls are clear reflection of how the American people felt about it. And this is going to be his internal eternal. I should say of failure and two I wanted to make a point about something Bill said about us leader McConnell. He abdicated responsibility soda his entire caucus, and they put eight hundred thousand plus people's lives in payroll were is bigger McConnell. Take a listen to Senate majority leader Mitch McConnell, just moments after President Trump's speech. Of continuously said, I wouldn't let the Senate become a theater for show votes and messaging starts from either side. So I was glad to see today. The president announcement that he and our democratic colleagues have reached an agreement that will immediately reopen the government. Once again, just to remind people would happen thirty five days ago or a little bit before the Senate passed a Bill a clean government, spending bills clean, and and then president or the whole year for for the whole year, and the and with the understanding the president was going to sign it. And then Senate Republicans had the rug pulled out from under them by President Trump and the White House deciding they weren't going to sign it. But as Bill points out Republicans were with him lockstep. Was that a mistake by Senate Republicans it was and I think it also what we don't see what's happening behind closed doors, and I think behind closed doors. There is a high level of exasperation what the White House and the lack of a strategy here. And that it is has increased a lot over the last two weeks. And I think Bill into this earlier that you know, McConnell is pretty much at his wit's end with where the president was going. I think McConnell was finished with trying to tell the president that this was the wrong approach and decided in the last probably forty eight hours seventy two hours to show him that it was the wrong approach by putting these bills on the floors that couldn't get. Sixty votes, and that increased allow the pressure, and and you've seen I think the policy luncheon at the weekly policy lunch and at the at the senators on the Republican side had this week. There was a lot of raised voices. People eating blaming vice president Pence set trying to send the message to the White House about how this was a failed strategy. I mean, if I were vulnerable Republican in the Senate of which there are many, I would be questioning Mitch McConnell is the right person to be leading my caucus right now. He's up in twenty twenty. I'm not gonna say he's that Kentucky, but Kentucky loves Donald Trump. He wants to be aligned with Donald Trump is he thinking about the entire caucus or is he thinking about Mitch McConnell, he essentially disappeared for a month. He's the minority leader of the of the Senate. He's not a powerlift actor majority. I'm sorry wishes. Got ahead of the head of reality. They're Senate he's not powerless actor. And if you're Cory Gardner, if you're Susan Collins. I'd be questioning if he is your interest in mind. This is why we're going to be back in three weeks where? We are today or where we were four weeks ago because you now have a Republican conference that it's not going to say, okay. Let's just go back into another shutdown. That'll turn out great. And it was so Trump has no leverage. And I think it best case for publicans. Is you just passed? What was passed the Senate passed today's before the Tam began and worst cases, they make even more concessions. All right everyone stick around because we have another big story today. What? Roger stone's indictment reveals about the Russian investigation and the Trump campaign that's next day with us. The right sheets can take your sleep and your style to the next level with bollandbranch, the upgrade has never been more affordable. Every set is crafted from one hundred percents organic cotton. They get softer and softer over time. That's why they have thousands of five star reviews and even three US presidents have Boll and branch sheets. Try them for thirty nights. And if you don't love them, send them back for a full refund. Go to bollandbranch dot com today for fifty dollars off your first set of sheets, plus free shipping with promo code CNN to spelled B O L L, andbranch dot com. That's bollandbranch dot com, promo code CNN too. Welcome back sticking with politics. President Trump's longtime confidant and political adviser Roger stone fighting charges filed by special counsel. Robert Muller today, alleging that stone obstructed the Russian investigation tampered with witnesses and repeatedly lied under oath. I will lead not guilty to these charges. I will defeat them in. I leave the she's politically motivated investigation. But I had made it clear I will not justify against the president. According to the seven count indictment stone sought emails from WikiLeaks that could damage Hillary Clinton's candidacy, and this was done in coordination with Trump campaign. Officials reminder that secretary of state Mike Pompeo when he was the director referred to WikiLeaks as a quote non-state hostile intelligence service often abetted by state actors like Russia, no surprise, President Trump responded as he almost always does on Twitter quote greatest witch hunt in the history of our country. No collusion. That's an all caps. CNN? Sara Murray joins me now. Sarah, the indictment says that Roger stone coordinated with the Trump campaign and tried to get stolen DNC emails from WikiLeaks. Take take pains to outline Roger stone's communications with Trump campaign officials who are not named in this indictment. But it also reveals a pattern a pattern of eagerness on behalf of the Trump campaign to try to get their hands on this damaging information that WikiLeaks had and to try to figure out when it was going to be coming out. Roger stone reveling today in the post arrest limelight after his initial appearance before a judge in Florida. Always said. Is not getting to that. But only after the pre dawn raid stone hoped to avoid. FBI agents swarmed stones Fort Lauderdale home arresting President Trump's longtime political adviser and friend searching stones homes, and Florida and New York wife. Terrorized wife hours later stone vowed to fight the charges against him. I will lead not guilty to these charges. I will defeat them in the indictment against stone describes how he coordinated with senior Trump campaign officials to seek out stolen democratic emails from WikiLeaks that could damage Hillary Clinton's campaign. And then he bragged about his contact with WikiLeaks, founder, Julian Assange, actually have. Vindicated with Assange, according to the indictment stone spoke to senior Trump campaign officials about WikiLeaks and information, it might have had that would be damaging to the Clinton campaign. Stone was contacted by senior Trump campaign officials to inquire about future releases by WikiLeaks. Prosecutors also allege a senior Trump campaign official was directed to contact stone about any additional releases its unclear who deliver those instructions and which officials don't was in touch with about WikiLeaks. At least one of them was Steve Bannon, the former White House chief strategist and chief executive of the Trump campaign, but stone was not charged with conspiracy. He faces one count of obstruction and five counts of making false statements both related to his alleged lies before the house intelligence committee. Would be immaterial and without intent. He also faces one count of trying to tamper with testimony from New York radio. Host Wendy credit. Go at one point even threatening to steal credit goes dome. Stowed it's claimed credit go was his bat channel to WikiLeaks. Which credit co denies according to the indictment. Stone told credit go stone wallet plead the fifth anything to save the plan amid references to Richard Nixon and a character in the godfather movies. A long time political operative stone encouraged Trump to run for president and served as an advisor in the early months of Trump's presidential campaign as the White House made this claim this has nothing to do with the president. And certainly nothing to do with the White House today stone double down on his loyalty pledge. There is no circumstance whatsoever under which I will bear false witness against the president. Now in a court filing special counsel's office is giving us an indication of why this indictment was originally handed down under seal and also why they probably use such heavy handed tactics and picking up Roger stone. This morning says they wanted this indictment under seal because they were concerned that Roger stone may decide to flee or to destroy evidence that Roger stone has been under scrutiny for the better part of two years. So it's interesting if he decided destroy evidence just last night at any rate he'll be appearing in DC in court on Tuesday for his arraignment, Jake joins the panel experts here in Sarah. I just want to clarify something because it seems like a very important part of this on page four point twelve in after the WikiLeaks release of stolen DNC emails. A senior Trump campaign official was directed to contact stone about any additional releases and what other damaging information WikiLeaks had on Hillary Clinton. Do we have any idea who the senior Trump official was that directed a different senior Trump campaign official because presumably you can only be directed. If you were also. Oh senior. Right. We and we don't know the answer to that. I mean, we know that Steve Bannon was one of the people that Rogers servants in touch with them the Trump campaign. But that's basically all we know. And that tells you that there were multiple senior campaign officials who were involved in this conversation about trying to get this information. They believed Roger stone had about WikiLeaks. I think the obvious question is was this then candidate Trump who is making this direction? We don't have an answer to that question yet, this July twenty second band and had joined the so this would be when afford this would have mentioned, the senior Trump campaign official who contacted stone and another senior Trump campaign official who made that direct direction and it's important. Whether it was Manafort telling Rick gates to do it or whether somebody else was telling Manafort to do it Kim Ueli, let me bring you in because the Trump campaign's all over this. Despite what Sarah Sanders says I mean, the president is not referenced. But that the Trump campaign is all over it is this conspiracy is this quote, unquote, collusion. Well, collusion is a non legal term conspiracy is illegal term. I think the point was made. Charging. It does not include conspiracy that requires a meeting of the minds in addition to a step towards some kind of crime. But here we do have as you mentioned throughout this indictment references to Trump and the campaign, and Mr. stone being the intermediary, basically communicating in a really brazen way about these these leaks of damaging information on from the Clinton campaign, and I think what people need to keep in mind. Here is why this matters this matters because it could have affected the actual outcome. The election. Our democratic process could have been distorted by virtue of these leaks, and the stolen emails, which is also a crime. Of course, President Trump mentioned WikiLeaks all the time. I want to get your take on something Jen Psaki because he used to speak from the podium on behalf of the Obama campaign ticket listen to this exchange between John Berman on CNN's new day and Sarah Sanders. The White House press secretary trying to get to the bottom of whether or not President Trump was the one who directed anybody to talk to stone. The president direct someone to contact Roger stone about stolen emails. Look, john. I'm not an attorney. I haven't read through that. Even if I had I'm not going to be able to provide you some type of insider or legal analysis what I can tell you is that this specific charges that have been brought against Mr. sewn. Don't have anything to do with the president. Do you know whether that individual was the president, I know that the charges are about whether or not he gave false statements did the president know, we're not was it the president who made that direction or not once again, I'm I haven't read this document. I mean, it would seem like before the interview you would settle as to whether or not the president was the one that directed the campaign senior campaign official reach out to Roger stone's. That would be the most obvious question. You would be asked. I mean watching that one. It's very painful to watch. Even though I'm not a Trump supporter, obviously that would have been what you would have prepped. You decided you were going to cancel the interview you could have been criticized for that. But what she did there. She made it seem like maybe he did know maybe he was the person who directed it. And that actually did more damage than it did clean anything up. And that's never where you wanna be as the spokesperson. After an interview presumably, you would have read the indictment before coming on the presumably would have read the indictment certainly before coming on an coming out to do an interview. But you also would have decided whether it was a wise thing to do an interview at all I want you to take a listen to what Roger stone had to say today. Bill. There is no circumstance whatsoever under which I will bear false witness against the president. I am one of his oldest friends. I am a fervent support the president. I think he is doing a great job of bitten in there. Great again. There's nothing in this indictment that suggests that President Trump talked to Roger stone at all. But there is stuff about people on the campaign. So I he doesn't have to testify against President Trump. Right. It's interesting that that occurred to him that he might have to raise the question of whether it wasn't the president who directed the senior official to deal with WikiLeaks. Or that the president would have known about such a direction. I'd order say say in the last panel, I said incorrectly that the Senator voted in December to keep the government open through the whole fiscal year. It was just through February eighth. So just to clarify that thank the correction. But no, I I mean, I think look as of now the why because what Sarah Sanders says as another White House is not denied I believe that the president might be the person at whose direction the senior campaign official dealt with WikiLeaks. That remains an open question. He gets an IOT now. Sarah Sanders tonight, and now she could walk in and ask the president and the president can say, no it wasn't me. And then they deny it. I had no knowledge of it. But as of now that has not been denied, I think that we've been told that. Manafort was not the one that reached out to stone. So we've gotten a lot of denials from people, but I've been thinking I'm running back through some of these denials in my head. And I know that Roger stone has denied that he ever discussed WikiLeaks with Donald Trump, President Trump candidate Trump. I also know that Trump's folks is legal team of said that he never discussed WikiLeaks with Roger stone. I don't we haven't ever gotten the denial that there was a conversation through an intermediary perhaps about WikiLeaks. We still didn't get that tonight today obviously from Sarah Sanders, but as I'm racking my brain for previous denial. I can't remember that one yet ruling that out either. As an experienced prosecutor is is Muller's not done. Do you think? Oh, no. I think one thing that this demonstrates is that the notion that the whole thing will wrap up and then the next month is is kind of folly. I think there's a lot here. As was mentioned, we see the tip of the iceberg. There's what's really interesting about this is there's a lot of documentary evidence Texan emails from Mr. Mr. stone in this indictment. I encourage people actually read the actual diamond. But but no this is going to go on and also all the denials from stone. Sarah, President Trump tweeted today greatest witch hunt in history of our country, new collusion, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, who alerted CNN to be there. That's a reference to the fact that CNN of this great exclusive video this morning to be clear. She was not alerted to be there. It was through reporting that it was there was a hunch to tell us more. Yeah. I mean, we did have a hunch. We heard that the grand jury was going to be meeting on on Thursday. And that struck us as unusual, and they did actually they heard testimony from drum corps stepson on Thursday. And we heard the resources that. There was a reason that it was scheduled for Thursday. There was some suggestion that they might be busy Muller's. He might be busy on Friday. And we have a couple of our eagle-eyed reporters who spotted the one of the prosecutors who has been working on this. Roger stone's this. Roger stone case leave the office with a suitcase. And so it's where you're going. I just didn't seem like the right time for a prosecutor on the Roger stone case to be taking a fun weekend away. And so we decided that out of an abundance of caution. You know, we should stake out. Roger stone's home. Just in case something did happen and stone and his attorney, I think we're very convinced that he would have an opportunity to turn himself in that. They would not get this kind of treatment from the FBI, but we, you know, followed what was unusual court activity unusual prosecutor activity, and it was Roger stone day. Great reporting. Great hunches, I'm glad it all worked out. Thanks, everyone. Stick around stone has been called the cockroach of American politics. He was even fired wants from the dole campaign because of a sleazy swinger add take a look at. Roger stone's sorted, and downright shady. Pass next. Hey, it's Howard Beck. And I've got G league presidents schrief Abdur Rahim Bleacher report forty eight teams are excited about about one to engage with players. They wanna be a part of we've heard this on the NBA teams won a have earlier touch points be a part of the development process of young players earlier. So this is an opportunity for that. So check out the full forty eight now on the Bleacher report app, apple podcasts and Spotify. Here are now under oath where are you at anytime, a member of a crime organization headed by Michael Corleone? Oh. I was in the olive oil business with his father. But that was a long time ago. That's. That was the character. Frank Pantano from the movie godfather part to a one time ally of Michael Corleone who cooperates with the FBI, and then recant before that committee claiming that the F B I told him to lie today, we learned that Roger stone. President Trump's longtime confidant has been charged with instructing a witness in the Muller investigation to quote, pull a Frank Pantano, which as you see means to lie stone's been a fixture in Republican politics for more than four decades, including a stint on the Trump campaign. But now his sleazy take-no-prisoners approach might actually land him in the slammer. Roger stone R O S T O N. He he's been called a dirty trickster, the prince of darkness, even the cockroach of American politics by the left leaning new Republic, and Roger stone flaunts many of these monikers is proudly as he flaunts his Nixon back tattoo agent. Provocateur stone's reputation is hard earned his notorious political rap sheet goes back to the Nixon campaign when the then nineteen year old donated money to Nixon's opponent. He said it was from the young socialist alliance and gave the receipt to the press. It didn't get any more ethical from there. In one thousand nine hundred eighty stone began a lobbying firm with Paul Manafort that unapologetically catered to human rights, abusers stone once boasted they quote, lined up most of the dictators in the world that we could find pro-western dictators. Of course, the good ones, nevertheless, the questionable consultants. Resume is Phil? With work for Republican stars, Nixon Reagan Bush senior, and of course, political adviser to Donald Trump. What working for Bob Dole stones personal life caused a public stir? He was forced to resign from Dole's presidential campaign after a tabloid revealed that he and his wife had placed an ad for a sex partner in a paper called local swing fever. But stone did not go away. He continued to stir the political pot sere training. Nineteen ninety nine stone helped Donald Trump navigate his first short lived campaign for the presidency. I've got to give my best advice. But Mr. Trump makes the decisions, and frankly, the polls so far kinda reflected voters like it. I year later in two thousand stone took credit for disrupting the Florida recount organizing Republican Ryan at the Miami Dade elections office. All the while. The stone list of dirty tricks and black ops continue to grow stone to credit for the downfall of then New York governor Eliot Spitzer saying he found out about Spitzer's penchant for prostitutes from a sex worker. He met at a Miami swingers club welcoming stones through his online. Channel the stone zone and national TV appearances stone has for years pedaled countless deranged conspiracy theories, I am not a conspiracy theorist I'm a conspiracy realist and through all of this. There has been a mainstay his longtime friend Donald Trump who reportedly continued confiding in stone even after firing him from his campaign in two thousand fifteen stone claims he quit we go back. Very long time. I have Donald Trump came to my wedding. I went to two of his I was at both his parents funeral have great affection for Trump and the Trump families. So what advice might the president have received one passage from stones book of life lesson. Stands out quote. Admit nothing deny everything launch counterattack. So take a listen to Roger stone today. The only thing is not. The only thing worse than being talked about is not being talked about he's being talked about because he was indicted, take he's looking like, a mini Nixon. They're the only thing he didn't say is. I am not a crook directly. And is really not a good. Look. I mean, there've been thirty five thirty four people charged three companies almost one hundred you know. You know? Is something wrong with this man. And there's something wrong with all the president's men. It seems like that this entire I mean he has been in the president. I want people to wrap their minds around the President Trump has been under some type of investigation ever since he took office magin that so President Trump tweeden December about Roger stone. Kevin take a listen to this are take a look at this. I will never testify against Trump. That's President Trump quoting stone. This statement was recently made by Roger stone, essentially, stating that he will not be forced by a rogue and out of control prosecutor and make up lies and stories about quote, President Trump nice to know that some people still have quote guts that does seem to be paramount to President Trump more than anything else. Loyalty to him. And he is the personification of the Trump approach to politics too, right? Which is forget, it's not so much about ideas. But whatever you do Brian Stelter quarter this earlier, whatever you do. Don't be boring. Right. That's Donald Trump's approach the politics. It's the same thing with Roger stone. I think the bet here, and it's an it's it'll be interesting to. See whether or not the right bet the bet here that Roger stone's making is that this can be one in the court of public opinion, the special counsels making the bet that this is going to be one in the court of law. And that that ultimately is what will win the day. We're going to see that play out over the next few months. I think Roger stone's making a bet that he will be pardoned by Donald Trump. Yeah. Think that's it. And with with with public opinion from some space for the bay. So and the indictment makes them incredible allegations against own I should say, they're not to allegations. There. There's evidence of them including threaten to kill the dog of person number two in the indictment. Randy credit? He tells credit co quote, you are a rat. A stool you backstab your friends run your mouth, my lawyers are dying to rip you to shreds. I am so ready. Let's get it on prepare to die. And then there's also some stuff about his dog. Let's show picture of the dog because I just want to show you sweet little complained about the FBI raid waking up his dog. So we know anything that their dog people. No one's going to cry. If Roger stone goes to jail or when he goes to jail but went like, but he might who knows? But the real question is is given all of their history here between Trump, and Roger stone is it actually possible. He didn't know what he was up to what did Trump? No. When did he know it? We don't know it yet. But I'm sure we'll learn law is much bigger than the quarterback. It's pretty remarkable that the president of the United States has a close associate like Roger stone. I mean, there are dirty tricksters and every party in every, you know, every corner of politics, but this isn't close friend of President Trump's and this guy's awful Burs of a federal well, yeah. Flag right there. That's unfair to Nixon. Really I just wanted to say. All right, everyone. Stick around. Roger stone was not even the only Trump associate in court today. That's next Steven universe. Cast members sat Calvin who voices. Stephen Michaela Dietz, the voice of amethyst and demand. No hall voices Pearl. Join me McKinsey I wanted to talk diamond days on the Steven universe podcast. Can you do because I love oh gosh. I need a line. Tell me what has the beauty. This is Cutie house of beauty. This is cute. New ringtone? What listening subscribe to the Steven universe podcasts for free apple podcasts? Spotify or wherever you listen to podcasts. Reggie right now, the Senate just passed the legislation to reopen the government after the president announced an end to the shutdown without any funding for his border wall. The whole reason that the shutdown happened to begin with. We'll keep you posted on that story as it develops. Also in the politics lead today as the president's former associate Roger stone appeared in court in Florida is former campaign chairman, Paul Manafort was also in front of a federal judge in DC today, Muller's team would not rule out the option that they might bring more charges against Manafort. Let's talk about it. With my panel Shimon, six of President Trump's close associates have all been indicted stone Manafort, Michael Cohen, Michael Flynn. Rick gates, and George popadopoulos of this. I guess you could say popadopoulos wasn't a close associate. But the other five shirt were that's a lot of people close to you to be going to jail charged with crimes it is. And there's one central theme. I think in all of this is that a lot of them have been charged with lying to investigators about what they knew about their various. Directions really with some very shading people, whether it'd be Russians whether it'd be WikiLeaks that is the central theme. I think in everything that we're seeing in a lot of these charges that are coming from Muller and from St. and why people lying to protect the president and Sarah. This is the defense. We we heard from the White House today. Take a listen. All on things that again have nothing to do with the president just because they had some association with the president at some point doesn't mean things that they did in their private lives and their personal center that may or may not have been right or wrong that doesn't have anything to do with the president arguably they had to do with electing the president. Well, yeah, also, private lives and personal lives. Made. Michael Cohen has now implicated the president in hush money payments. Paul Manafort has certainly gotten in trouble for his own business dealings, but also for being touch with a Russian counterpart allegedly with ties Russian intelligence while he was running the Trump campaign. Sharing campaign data with that person. And now we have Roger stone who was directed. It was in touch with a campaign official who was directed by an even more senior campaign official to go figure out what WikiLeaks had and the White House can't answer. Whether the person who is giving those directions with President Trump at the time, then candidate Trump. So I think if your defense is going to be this has nothing to do with the White House, or this has nothing to do with the president doesn't really hold water in in these cases on you said Kim. You said earlier in the show that you don't think Mahler is anything close to done is he leading to the president. Then where is he going with all this? Well, I worked on the whitewater investigation that was seven years, and it was so much narrower than this. So I just think we're at the tip of the iceberg. There could be a lot. The big question really has to do is what how could this president ultimately be held accountable. If it's I think there's a debate a legitimate debate as to whether you can indicted sitting president, the DOJ guidance is no. And then we've got the question of whether this congress is going to go forward with an impeachment. I personally believe that's really a legislative political solution is the solution and at this point at least to determine whether impeachment is proper and at this point. We don't teeny movement in that direction, but we've also mentioned issues regarding witness tampering to that is something that was in both the articles of impeachment for Mr. Nixon and articles of impeachment for mister Clinton. So I think an bipartisan level if you look historically we're in that mode where it's time to start looking at the seriously and Jimmy. Just to not a week ago. The president and his lawyer Rudy Giuliani were praising the special counsel for slapping back that BuzzFeed report. But today, of course, there back to witch hunt. Yeah. Of course, they are and more concerned about how we knew to be at. Roger stone's home in Florida, certainly in that tweet calling this a witch hunt. 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Explosive new allegations against Supreme Court nominee; Third accuser: Kavanaugh & others used drugs, alcohol to take advantage of girls at parties; Source: Trump more worried, taking charge of Kavanaugh defense

"They take one last ride around the world, the EMMY award winning Anthony, bourdain parts, unknown the final episodes chairs, Sundays at nine on CNN. There's now a third accuser. The lead starts right now breaking news, new horrific accusations about Brett Kavanagh's alleged behavior with girls in high school. Cavanaugh denies it all. He says, the charges are from the twilight zone. Michael ever. Nadi who represents the woman in question will be here in minutes. These new series allegations come just hours before cavenaugh in his first accuser, Christine Blasi borders set to testify in front of the world might be new charges. Derail that hearing, could they even sink his confirmation? Plus we're just minutes away from President Trump taking questions and a very rare solo news conference. And if his newest comments on cavenaugh or any indication, it might get a little bit nasty. Welcome to the lead everyone. I'm Jake tapper we begin with the politics lead and the ugliest accusation ever made in American history against a potential US supreme court Justice as the nomination of judge. Brett cavenaugh seems at its most vulnerable point ever. A third woman today came forward with shocking allegations about break Kavanagh's alleged behavior. As a teenager. Julie sweat neck who says she has held multiple security clearances while working for the government has notified the Senate Judiciary committee than in the nineteen eighties at various party. She attended where the supreme court nominee was allegedly president present. She saw cavenaugh, quote, drink excessively, and engage in abusive and physically aggressive behavior towards girls, including pressing girls against him without their consent, grinding against girls and attempting to remove or shift girls, clothing to expose private body parts, unquote, even worse sweating. It claims in this worn statement that she witnessed efforts by. Avin to quote caused girls to become a neabry aided. So they could then be gang-raped unquote. She says she saw lines of numerous boys lines that included cavenaugh standing outside rooms where they waited for their turn with girls who were incapacitated. She says she was a victim of one such rate, but a party were Cavanaugh was present. She does not say the cavenaugh raped her or the other girls CNN cannot corroborate any of these claims which are now being investigated by the Senate Judiciary committee and judge cavenaugh today, forcefully denied the allegations, saying, quote, this is ridiculous and from the twilight zone, I don't know who this is and this never happened. Sweat. Nick, of course, joins Deborah Ramirez, who on Sunday alleged that cavenaugh exposed himself to her in college and Christine Blasi. Ford who last week said that cavenaugh sexually assaulted her when they were in high school. As of now, there are no, I witnesses who have come forward to corroborate. Great. Any of these charges. And in fact, many people named as having been at the events described by Ramirez at Yale and by Blasi Ford. In highschool say, they have no memory of those events happening. This new accusation comes hours before President Trump's press conference in which he may attempt to get ahead of tomorrow's Senate hearing with cavenaugh and Christine Blasi Ford. Let's get right to CNN's Phil Manningly on Capitol Hill for us and fill all ten Democrats on the Senate Judiciary committee this afternoon called on the White House to withdraw Kavanagh's nomination. Yeah, that's right. Jake Senate Democrats have seen heard or read plenty enough to pull the plug on this nomination, and you put that on one side. It's standing stark contrast with where Republican leaders are basically telling their members to stay the course maintain a United front behind closed doors at an all conference lunch. Just a short while ago that was the message, even if members are rattled, keep pushing forward. Jake. Third accuser threatening to derail. The already tenuous prospects of President Trump's supreme court nominee and a detailed declaration are specific day aren't shocking, but above all else, they are true and my client stand behind them. One hundred percents, the allegations from Julie, sweat, Nick, who alleged in a signed affadavit. She attended well over ten parties. She saw judge Brett cavenaugh. Then in highschool, drink excessively at many of these parties engage in abusive and physically aggressive behavior towards girls sweat. Nick also claiming cavenaugh and others would spike the punch to 'cause girls to become a neabry eight and disoriented. So they could then be gang raped in a side room or bedroom later adding became the victim of one of these gang or train rapes where Mark judge and Brett Kavanagh were present sweat. Nick does not say they assaulted her or the other girls. And while sweat, Nick says, she's away. Aware of other witnesses who can corroborate her claims. She has not yet identified those witnesses. Cavenaugh immediately denied the new allegations saying in a statement, this is ridiculous and from the twilight zone, I don't know who this is and this never happened. I'm asking you why in this process which has been so debased on both sides? Why are people who have they serious allegations, not going to law enforcement themselves and saying, take a look at this attorneys for Mark. Judge also identified by sweat, Nick, saying, judge, quote, vehemently denies the allegations contained in the affidavit. Judiciary committee, Republicans snapping quickly to attention to review and address the allegations aides, say, thank while President Trump taking a break for meetings of the UN took aim at sweat, Knicks attorney, Michael avenue ninety look at this lawyer that just came out. He's alive. He represented Democrats. Nobody ever talks about that. The democrat lawyer. Very good one, but he's a democrat. They're part Democrats are calling for Thursday's hearing were cabin on is first accuser, Christine Blasi. Ford will testify to be suspended when the question of credibility is so much in doubt as it is now with judge Cavanaugh, all that person should not be sitting not be sitting on the highest court in the land, but that hearing will stay on as planned according to the committee chair. Tomorrow is very, very important. Well, she's been waiting for ten days now to appear. And Jake, I can hardly imagine a more dramatic lead up to a hearing are more important consequential. Hearing on Capitol Hill. Republicans have made very clear not only do they plan on holding the hearing. They also still plan on having the committee vote on Friday with floor consideration the entire Senate voting as soon as Tuesday, but that's all contingent on one thing actually having the votes. And here's what I've been told by several GOP sources over the course of the last couple of hours. They don't have them right now. One eight told me it's basically been like whack a mole. And are they going to end up with those votes? Another aide said, we literally have no idea right now, Jake. All right, Phil, Mattingly on Capitol Hill. Let's talk about this with my experts. Scott Jennings let me start with you used to work with Brad Kavanagh Yasser. And the Bush White House. The Senate minority leader Chuck Schumer says, Democrats should stop the proceedings. Cavenaugh should withdraw. At what point do you think the White House might consider doing that? I mean, this nomination as of now does not have the votes. They're taking on a lot of water. I think the what I hear from the Senate leadership today, Jake is that they are going to have this committee hearing they are gonna take vote. They are going to keep the Senate in all weekend and they are pressing forward and they are confident in the outcome. So I don't sense that there's any movement towards taking this nomination down. I don't sense. There's any movement towards hitting pause. I think right now Republicans are galvanized against this onslaught against Brett, Kevin on the Senate leadership feels that in the White House feels that and they're gearing up to keep the Senate and sessional weekend to deal with it. What do you make of this new allegation? I've heard some people say while no one should belittle such an accusation. It seems difficult to imagine that such horrific events would be going on consistently. In these parties and only it would come out this week. Nobody would have ever heard about it before now. What would you react if you've been to a good college party? Jake, but I spent a lot of time on college campuses, so I don't know. This is high school and this is this. Oh, well yes, there was. No, she was in college. These are softwares, but what I'm saying is and I say that to say this, unfortunately, what is what is being alleged? What the accusers are saying. That happened happens more often than folks think, and it is not okay. It is not acceptable behavior. What what I'm concerned about. The fact that Senate Republicans are pressing forward is that are to me that they don't care about allegations of sexual assault that they do not want to credibly vet an investigate these claims. And then if Rhett cavenaugh did this or whether he didn't, they don't care. They want him to be the supreme court nominee. I think there should be an FBI investigation at the least. I think we should take a pause. Why are they rushing this? And I know we're probably going to get here, but I also think there's something to be said about the fact that Senate Republicans. Apparently don't feel like they can do their jobs without being misogynistic creeps and that's why they have to get an outside counsel lawyer. There's also a women's equal talked about, we'll talk with that outside counsel in the next block. But I do wanna ask you, Mona. This isn't the first time we've heard this allegation about gang rape. I in this culture not against cavenaugh, but in this culture and let me just read this. The end of that New Yorker story. There was a moment where there was testimony or an interview with a woman named Elizabeth razor. She was marked judges ex girlfriend, and they reported quote raise a recalled that Mark judge. Again, this is not against cavenaugh, but this is about potentially the culture there. Mark judge had told her ashamed, Lee of an incident that involved him in other boys taking turns having sex with a drunk woman. She says the judge did not name others involved in the incident. She has no knowledge of cavenaugh participated, but razor was disturbed by the story and noted that it undercuts judges protestations about the sexual innocence of Georgetown craps that I only site that because the the gang rape allegation is such. A horrific allegation. And the worst thing we've heard so far and it's actually not the first time we've heard it this week. Well, so think about the other recent times and we've heard these kinds of allegations. It was regarding the university of Virginia rape on campus story that Rolling Stone ran that turned out to be a complete fabrication, and yet the same kind of thinking and analysis was in evidence. Then as we're seeing now, it was like, yeah, those frat boys, they're just the type to do something like that. And there should. They practically had to shut down this entire fraternity over this and it turned out to be false. The another one was the Duke lacrosse case. Same sort of thing. There was this sort of smearing a whole group of people with a broad brush and saying, well, cross players, everybody does what they're like, so they must be guilty and look. I mean, the presumption of innocence still has to mean something. It's not a courtroom, but just as a matter of elementary civic fairness, you have to say, yeah. Men may do bad things in certain instances that doesn't shed any light on whether this particular man did those things. I mean, she she brings up with point. I mean this this culture of just blaming, I mean taking one side over the other evidence, every single abuse claim of this magnitude should definitely be investigated. Women should be heard part of this backlash that we're seeing right now comes from a culture, sexism and paternalism in this country with the patriarch or ARCHE in this country has controlled. Everything has silenced women generation after generation. So this moment that we're in is not just about him. And what he has allegedly done is also about generations of women who never felt as though their voices could be heard, even their voices would be listened to because men control all believers of power in this country. Do you agree with that? I agree with what Senator Turner thing. I want to underscore here though that Brett Brett Cavanaugh. On came out and painted himself as an ally of women of someone that champions women. And if he is truly a champion, I've yet to hear Br Cavanaugh, speak out on behalf of these women's speak out to say that not only should these women get their due, but we need to have an FBI investigation this this. This is the patriarchy full display. This is patriarchy on full display. German Grassley already has a committee vote for cavenaugh scheduled on Friday. What do you think of that? I mean, the fact that the hearings on Thursday and there's going to be a committee vote, Friday. Look, you know, the argument that she has not been heard. She's been invited to testify before. She's going to be heard they the committee. It seemed very solicitous. They said we can send people out to California if you don't, if you're free to fly. I mean, there were all kinds of ways that they committee was attempting to give her a platform. So I don't think it's quite fair to say that the patriarchy was in action. In this case, at least in this case. Back in her character and the media. Well, I'm sending on the on the Senate floor and said, this is a smear campaign and the thirty. She is at work as well with people saying, of course, Brad Kavanagh must be guilty, isn't the man? Privileged bet shouldn't happen. And unfortunately, in this twenty four hour news, psycho social media, but these are the points. It is the height of areas for the Republicans to say, we're going to give her day and they were going to vote the next day to me. They're already predisposed. They don't care. They don't care. They don't care what she has to say his isn't the phone of giving day having isn't that exactly the way the process that changes things, why don't they let her have her say now we have two other win. Let's let's the I investigation. It should be police investigations in those jurisdictions where these things have happened. But to say the berry next day, regardless and leader McConnell is already on record. As you know, saying, don't worry about it Republicans. We don't care what they say. What these women have to say. He will see you. You have them wind that it does convey something when you say, well, we're going to let her talk, and then we're going to go with right away anyway. No, I, I don't dispute that. But what I would say is that it's not just the Republicans, the Democrats to are showing bad faith here. I mean, they are the ones who right at the beginning of the hearing were saying, well, first of all, interrupting speaker and also demanding all of these documents when they all one second already been on the record saying they were opposing him because. But. I just want to back. This is a job interview. If anyone, if this is a job interview, I would be hard pressed the thing that anybody at this table with someone come into your your your job for potential with a potential application to say, I want to work here and all the allegations and everything that has come out about break Cavanaugh. You didn't have their their full resume. You didn't have their full work history. You're willing to hire them for a lifetime appointment, a lifetime of women, and you don't have all the. The democrat prison Democrats are saying, we have a lot happening here scrub. We need to pump the brake prison. United States are brick having all the United States Senate higher break cabin, offer the DC circuit court of appeals. I have a hard time believing that someone who cleared six FBI background checks. So was over a period of time running what amounts to apparently a gang rape, sex ring involving hundreds of the most prominent children from the most prominent families. These air, Do you think all three women are lying? I don't know what these women are doing. I think they deserve to be heard. I think Grassley has done the right thing by having Ford come in. I think the circumstances of today's allegations are strange. If you look into the details of it, I think the committee should listen to Dr four, but listening to Dr Ford and judge Cavanaugh. I don't understand why that should then indefinitely postponed a vote. Why shouldn't they get my head? It definitely what the Democrats asked what I want to be withdrawn today. That would be a democrat. Let me tell you. I'm not. Here to lobby for the democrat. I am here to say, let the truth come out as my grandmother used to say. You could be truth in the river four days after latte, truth gone catch up. And so the truth is going to catch up. But in order for that to catch up, you cannot have. This is a very seri-. These allegations are serious and they are allegations. I will give you that some Democrats may be playing politics with this in the same way that folks bid to doctor Nida, he'll that should have never happened to her. But this is about these women and maybe other women, and they should be able to have not only their say, but not to have Senate Republicans be so era Ghent in this moment that they're going to say she can. She can have her say, but we're gonna vote anyway. What. This back and not sewing. Professor for did not want her. Yeah, home, but that's not the reason because I Feinstein released the information about the more. I went to underscore this. About the league. Let's say he reached the fact of the letter before Ford had gone public. Let's take a quick break. We're gonna talk more about this, but up. Next I'm going to talk to the lawyer who's representing this third woman who came forward with these allegations against Brookhaven. And then this doesn't happen very often. President Trump is going to have solo news conference just in a few minutes with us. My name is Paul Shirley, and I've gone on a lot of dates. I've noticed something on these dates. I often find myself telling the same stories stories about my mother teaching sex Ed stories about playing college basketball stories about playing NBA basketball and almost dying in the process. We all do this. 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I mean, I think that's outrageous, frankly, Donald Trump knows nothing of my background. Those nothing of my nearly twenty year record as an attorney for f- presented. Democrats have represented, Republicans have represented working people all of the United States. This is nothing but an effort by Donald Trump at Lindsey, Graham and other Republican hacks designed to distract away from the very serious sworn allegations in the declaration by my client who is one hundred percents, credible, and they don't know what to do with the allegation. So now what they wanna do is they want to try to attack me and it's disgusting. Let's let's talk about the allegations judiciary committee reached down to you for an interview with your your client. Is that the plan is going to be an interview, and if so, when. Well, we initially alerted the committee to the allegations on Sunday evening. They refuse to get back to us on Monday. They refused to get back to it on Tuesday. It was only within the last couple of hours that they finally got back to us and said that they wanna be with my client were considering that request. But frankly, Jake, that's not how this should be angled. The FBI should be taught in do a proper investigation interview all of the witnesses. All of the accusers. They should interview Brad Kavanagh, and then they should present those findings to the finish judiciary committee and they should be made public so that alternately we can get to the truth. This is he's searched for the truth before this man is voted on as it relates to potentially serving on the highest court of the land for the rest of his life. When you're talking about an FBI investigation, I want you to take a listen to a big question posed by Kavanagh's attorney, Beth Wilkinson about how you're handling. This allegation. Take a listen. Why in the world did he not take these allegations? The sworn statement from her which they have submitted to the Senate Judiciary committee. Those are not long for people as an attorney. Your obligation is to your client, and if you believe that these crimes were committed against your client, you should go immediately to law enforcement. So you're talking about trying to get an FBI investigation. But I guess the question the Beth Wilkinson Kavanagh's attorneys asking is, why don't you and your client go to the police. Presumably Montgomery, police come Montgomery County police or DC police? Well, we're certainly considering that Jake at as at this moment, but look, this is a distraction by council for mister Cavanaugh. Let me ask you this question. We've offered offered to have my client take polygraph examination. Why won't cavenaugh take a polygraph examination? Why won't break an allow his close friend Mark gut to is very knowledgeable about what happened? Very knowledgeable about these Al. Gatien why are they hiding Mark judge from the American people and the Senate Judiciary committee? Why won't they bring him in to testify? Truthfully, I we want with the Jake. I want to be really clear about. We want all of this aired and we want it aired publicly and we want the American people to be able to decide who's lying and who's telling the truth. This should not be decided by a bunch of white privilege guys that are basically shaming sexual abuse. So you're willing your client would be willing to testify publicly about her charges before the absolutely. But we believe I for Maria investigative eighty correct. Full FBI veteran. Jake lemme ask you this question. Why is it that win the most heinous crimes appear or occur? I should say on US soil, whether it'd be nine, eleven or Timothy McVeigh or the unit bomber for any number of other crimes. Why do we turn to the FBI in those instances. But now the Senate Judiciary committee, Brad Kavanagh, and Donald Trump are afraid that the f. i. investigate these out. I'm certainly taking position on it, but I, I would point out that you haven't committed to taking these allegations to local law enforcement, which seems like a reasonable thing to do as far as I know I'm under the impression that there is no statute of limitation for rape in Montgomery County, Maryland. So that is something you can do your considering it. I want to ask you about your client sworn declaration. She details a horrific assault saying, quote in approximately nine hundred eighty two, I became the victim of one of these gang or train rapes, remarked judge and Brad cavenaugh were present. No, she didn't specifically say good. Cavanaugh was one of the attackers is your client claiming the cavenaugh raped her? I'm not gonna have any further comment on that particular allegation. She's going to detail that for the FBI and hopefully for the Senate Judiciary committee, ultimately in a public hearing, but I'm not provide visit pretty Big Mac number eight million out there. Yeah. I mean, you know, you're saying that cavenaugh was present that cavenaugh was present in the room. He was in the line. He was in the party. I mean, just to say he was present is really agree. GIS lack of specificity when you're talking about charges, this horrific. And I'm not saying that I don't believe them. I'm just saying, what exactly are you saying? Is she saying that he did Jake, I disagree completely with what you just said. Let me be clear about something. This is not my declaration. These are statements by my client fever. I statement about what happened at. Let's just eliminate that paragraph of the declaration in its entirety just for the sake of argument. You mean to tell me that the balance of the declaration still permits him to be sworn in as a sitting supreme court Justice? No, it does not. The conduct that is littered throughout the declaration is outrageous. There are plenty of been and women. In the United States that serve as Turney and judges that don't have this kind of conduct in their background. I want to ask you about something else that Kavanagh's attorney. Beth Wilkinson said, we'll flits her earlier today in which she seemed to be suggesting that the public should be questioning your clients. Judgment. Take a listen. When you say you went to ten parties like that, and you kept going to those parties even though that was happening and you saw that supposedly happening other girls that is a different thing not to report. This is saying, I went with other women other girls at the time. I saw all this happening and I went back and I went back again and I never told anyone and I never brought it up. I never thought about what was happening to those other women. I just I have a very hard time believing. That's true. What's your response to that? Michael while to responsible responses, my client did not have all the details about what was going on in those back rooms at each party that she went to. That's number one. And here's my second response. To that. Jake, I'll tell you what I'll make this offer morning noon and night. I'm gonna make it now. Why don't we play my client under oath and miss Wilkinson in question for eight hours about these allegations, and then let's place, Brad Kavanagh under of and I can question him for eight hours about these allegations. I'm ready to do it. We'll do it tomorrow. We've heard voiced at at our panel table today, skepticism about the notion that according to your client, there were regularly gang rapes at these parties just outside Washington DC. Can you understand why some people might be skeptical that this is only now starting to come out. Why can understand why people may be skeptical. But I think if you look at the New Yorker article, for instance, there's statements within that article that support these allegations, and this declaration is submitted under penalty of perjury. Jake, Mike client has multiple security clauses that she's been granted over the years by the federal government. She understands the seriousness of these allegations. The fact that she could be charged with perjury if they turned out to be false. She also understand that she's putting her livelihood in many instances at risk because of the fact that these are made under penalty of perjury. I, I understand. We mentioned that that quote about Mark does is ex girlfriend of talking to the New Yorker earlier in the show. Just a couple more questions, Michael. I know you have a busy schedule. When did you first hear from Julia sweat, Nick was before or after Christine. Blasi. Ford story was published in the Washington Post two Sundays ago. It was within the last month within the last month. But after professor Ford's allegations came out, I Don. Don't know. Frankly, you say that there are two witnesses witnesses to what what what can they back on? Well, there's more than two witnesses there. There were two witnesses to the actual sole involving my client, but there are multiple witnesses that can attest to the balance of the conduct which is set forth within this declaration. There's many, many witnesses. Jake, there's a lot of who are the end is that there's a number of men and women that can attest to the fact of the circumstances in this declaration, and we're going to provide those witnesses to the FBI is is we're contact, what would you provide them to me? Would you provide them to CNN and the media so that we can do? I mean, the war doesn't look like the FBI at this point anyway, is going to investigate this. Would you provide them to us so that we can talk to these individuals while Jake CNN and and the Jake tapper show and not the investigatory bodies that have judgment ultimately on allegations. So we're going to consider what the. With the names of these witnesses to cooperate these accusations. And again, we've offered that my client for polygraph examination. We could do that tomorrow as well. Maybe we could do that right after I did done examining a capital. All right, Michael, have Nadi. We thank you for your time. Thank you for answering their questions. We really appreciate it. Thank you Republicans, say tomorrow's hearing will not be delayed, and now they've hired some help. The female prosecutor will be questioning, Christine, Blasi Ford and Brad Kavanagh. Next plus a rare solo press conference for President Trump. What might he say about these latest allegations? Stay with us. 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Republicans have higher question for it and Cavanaugh during that hearing has been preparing all day with the Senate Judiciary committee attorneys sources tell CNN the Mitchell plans to be equally as tough on judge Brad Kavanagh as she is on his accuser professor Blasi Ford's c. n. n.'s Tom foreman takes a closer look now at the career and reputation of prosecutor Rachel Mitchell. The first step in the process is selecting a victim or targeting victim. There are a lot of different things that offenders look for vats, Rachel Mitchell in sports video, promoting safe interactions between coaches and kids preventing sex crimes and locking up. Sexual predators has been the cornerstone of her career as a prosecutor in Arizona for decades. Now, she has handled high profile cases and she has long recognized the reluctance of victims, especially young ones to come forward in an interview. She said in reality, children often keep this secret for years sometimes into their adulthood sometimes forever, and they may or may not tell everything. So in the Senate where the entire Republican side of the judiciary committee is male party leaders are convinced Mitchell widely reported to be Republican is the right person to question. Christine. Blasi Ford about Iraq whose ations of sexual misconduct aimed at supreme court nominee Brett cavenaugh when both were in. In high school, we have hired of the female assistant to go on staff and ask these questions in a respectful and professional way. Critics of exploded at that term. Democrats are Scoffing at GOP claims. Their goal is to de politicize the process and get to the truth, and an activist group is opposing the use of a prosecutor at all saying, it is impossible to imagine how difficult this process will be for Dr Ford, but it also creates the wrong environment for gathering information from a person providing an account of her own sexual assault. Still, some of Mitchell's colleagues are speaking up to telling the Washington Post. Rachel will do her job as a professional. She does not play politics when it comes to anything involving her work. In my experience. She is a very pointed questioner of adverse witnesses, but she is also very fair in political terms of the Democrats are getting out of this as an opportunity to call Republicans coward saying there. Hiding behind Mitchell, but there's a long game in here for Republicans to because they will now not likely after see ads going into the midterms where these Republican men are going after this woman on the witness stand something, which would possibly further alienate female voters from the Republican side j.. All right, Tom foreman. Thanks as we wait for his live news conference and just minutes. President Trump is in full throttle defense of his court nominee. But the reason why might surprise you stay with us. How many cats in providence head coach Ed Cooley is on March madness. Three sixty five. I'm excited about the group nervous in one fence because of our inexperience in the back court. But Makarov medicine are length and toughness. Subscribe to much man, three sixty five now at apple podcasts and Spotify. We're just moments away from truly rare event for President Trump. He will hold a solo news conference with reporters. This will be just his fourth one since taking office is second in this country aides. Tell CNN the despite the new allegations against judge Brad Kavanagh, President Trump will continue to unequivocally defend his pre court nominee. In fact, we're told that he will question the motivations of the now. Three accusers CNN senior White House correspondent Jeff Zeleny joins me now from outside Trump, Tower in New York and Jeff earlier today to pull spray the president ignored a question from a reporter about whether he thought the three accusers are lying, but doubtful. He'll be able to dodge that question in a few minutes. Well, Jake, it is an open question if he'll be able to dodge that or not, but he did have that look of annoyance and exasperation if you will on his face when he was asked that, and that is one thing that actually concerned some Republicans on Capitol Hill will the president be helpful in this news conference or really actually hurt the cause. President Trump is not only still standing by judge Brett cavenaugh, but tonight he's taking the reins of defending the embattled supreme court. Nominee is a disgrace what's going on. The good news is the public is very smart, and they get the president is taking the confirmation battle to the court of public opinion. He's grown increasingly dissatisfied with how cavenaugh has defended himself. CNN is learn telling one official. The judge seemed wooden on telling the truth and not sufficiently aggressive in his Fox News interview this week. I'm not gonna let false accusations try boss. Now out of this process, the president blasted Democrats again today seizing on Michael ebony whose representing the third woman to come forward with the accusations, the live, he represented Democrats, nobody results about that. He's a democrat lawyer that a very good one, but clearly not wanting to talk about the women who are stepping forward l. three winning line, what should exploration in. Instead, he's trying to harden partisan lines. Personally, coining this phrase, it's come game playing a con game. This is a conduct in hopes of diminishing the allegations. No, they know into Tanya CON a time game today. The latest accusation unfolded, just as the president was chairing a meeting of the United Nations Security council called to order six weeks before the midterm elections. The president made a rare reference to election meddling not against Russia, but China offering a warning cry for the final push of the fall campaign regrettably we found that China has been attempting to interfere in our upcoming Twenty-eight teen election. Coming up in November. Against my administration. They do not want me or us to win. So Jake, we are now just a few minutes away from that news conference and the president believes on the eve of this hearing in the Senate that he and he alone can put the best spin on this that he can defend his nominee. The question is, what effect will it have on those key senators? You'll remember over the weekend when Senator Susan Collins of Maine said she was appalled by one of the president's tweets and his comments. Jake Jeff Zeleny with President Trump at the UN in New York. Let's talk about this with our experts. So if the premise is that the Senate is a jury and that the tough jurors right now are McAliskey Collins flake, those individuals that the the, the red meat red state Republicans are with him. Democrats are gone. What do you think President Trump should take on as his tone at this press conference today? When it comes to these accusers of off, I don't think he should discuss it at all because I think his hand handling of these kinds of things is to put his foot directly into his mouth. All. All the way down and he'll just make trouble for those Republicans. So he should just be as calm and as serene. And then like as he can possibly match Trump. I'm sorry, I wasn't clear about my question. Yeah, I was talking about President Trump. I just want to make sure you knew is. Yeah, yeah, but that's your advice. Okay. So Mitch McConnell called President Trump after he made a Twitter suggestion that Jeff link earlier today attack, which is the idea that just because a woman doesn't report something to the police, then it shouldn't be trusted when she makes the allegation years later. Mitch McConnell said that's not helpful to President Trump because of the votes of Murkowski Collins, etc. Well, I think that developments today have given the president, a target he can shoot at Michael is the front runner for the twenty twenty democrat, Michael ebony. His entrance into this fray gives Donald Trump. Somebody he can go after aggressively. He's not has to go. He doesn't have to talk about the accusers. He can leave that alone as Mona pointed out, but he's now got a foil that unites Republicans. He's right, and I think he will do. I think he will do I, but that's, that's absolutely the problem here we're talking about Dr Ford and other women who have come forward who are voicing what happened to them. And you got two people the president and avenue d playing politics with this. That is the problem that he has a target instead of focusing in on which he won't be able to do. He won't be able to stay focus to focus in on the accusers. And let them have their say and evaluate this through a lens of Justice and fairness, but he can't do it. But that is part of the problem with the politics between him and have a ninety. That is part of the reason why the American people are so turned off by this, not just them, but I'm saying there to symbols here. They're going jousting. Meanwhile, these women are left in the wake of this foolishness. I'm not about to give back live natty that much credit. Look, he the allegations. Look, the allegations are serious today. I think we need to hear more about that, but this isn't about Michael avenue. This is about Dr Ford and the women, and the fact that Republicans are advocating their duty on the Senate Judiciary committee does not doing that question. We're going to keep talking about this. We're going to squeeze in a quick break, stay with us. Hey, it's Howard Beck, and I've got money mccutchen the NBA vice president of referee development and training on Bleacher reports. The full forty eight referee served the game, our players, our coaches, and our franchises are the game. And that's a huge distinction that I- refugees on your skin and it's wonderful to serve this. This game is the best game ever invented to my biased opinion. And I, we love serving the game. So check out the full forty eight. Now on the Bleacher report app, apple podcasts, and Spotify. And you're looking at live pictures from New York City, were any moment. President Trump is going to walk out and hold a solo news conference only his second solo news conference in the United States since his presidency began. We're going to continue the conversation when the president starts speaking. Obviously, we'll bring that to you live you. You said that you would like President Trump to treat these women more respectfully, but what if he actually? And he honestly thinks that that that this is a con job, as he said, he thinks the Democrats are playing politics with this. What would you advise him? How could he at least please you in what he says is today, that's all order it is you don't like him. I get that, but like what you want to hear fine. How politics I mean, he should. He should say, I mean, he can support Kevin often say he believes him, but he also should not try to indict the women who've come out, come forward to say that they had a different set of experiences with Kevin. He should accept that and listen to what they have to say and not. Try to catch the Spurs against them. I mean, he has. I mean, he has his own set of problems in this area too. So it's not surprising that he's gonna believe a judge cavenaugh, but to try to defame the women and belittle them and tear them down is not the way to go live. Glasshouse Campos. Donald Trump has been accused by multiple women well, over a dozen of sexual assaults at ranging consensual thoughts of sexual harassment. He's on tape talking about grabbing women by the new. You know what the bar is low for him. So he needs to be quiet images of question about cavenaugh. At what point do you think this becomes so problematic that they have to just cut bait. I mean already this, if let's say Marco, Rubio votes for capital and let's say Mark and he gets on the supreme court that will be used against Marco Rubio fairly or not. But then you've established that an unsubstantiated accusation lobbed at the last minute would be successful in torpedoing a great career. Three of that cannot be yes. Okay. On here. Committee, I won't remind it's just it is. It is a kind of of of grotesque unfairness that I don't think we want to enshrine is the way we do business in this country. Walking away from Kevin all would be demoralizing to the Republican party ahead of this mid term. I think there's absolute determination to take it to the floor and let everybody get on the record on this because if they don't, there is going to be widespread dissatisfaction with the entirety of the Republican process. Here in the question will be asked by the grassroots Republicans. We control all these legs of the stool, and we can't stand up to the liberal mob. Okay. Here are demoralized. Here's pro here. So many people around the world depend on CNN's quality reporting. And now they have an incredible online store. 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GOP agrees to allow a week for Kavanaugh background check; Four key undecided Senators could decide Kavanaugh's fate; Flake says FBI report could change his mind on Kavanaugh; WH official: Trump will order FBI probe into Kavanaugh allegations

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GOP agrees to allow a week for Kavanaugh background check; Four key undecided Senators could decide Kavanaugh's fate; Flake says FBI report could change his mind on Kavanaugh; WH official: Trump will order FBI probe into Kavanaugh allegations

"They take one last ride around the world, the EMMY award winning Anthony, bourdain parts, unknown the final episodes chairs, Sundays at nine on CNN. This is CNN breaking news, welcome to the lead on Jake tapper. We begin with some breaking news in the politics lead a shocking turn of events this afternoon on Capitol Hill just moments ago, the Senate majority whip John Cornyn of taxes confirmed that there is an agreement. The Senate is going to wait a week to vote on supreme court nominee Brett Cavanaugh during which period the FBI has a week to investigate these allegations against Cavanaugh. This came after the Senate Judiciary committee this morning voted to send caffeine's nomination to the Senate floor for a final vote among all one hundred senators. But that came with the condition Republican Senator Jeff flake said his vote came with strings attached, and those strings were the one week delay. Can the FBI investigation flakes coming after he was confronted by sexual assault survivors minutes after he announced he would vote for cavenaugh this morning. When I'm talking to you, you're telling me that myself doesn't matter what happened to me. Doesn't matter that you're going to do these things power. That's just an eleven second excerpt of a nearly five minute passionate confrontation where Senator flake looked, frankly, wrecked moments ago, President Trump who said on Wednesday night that if had been up to him, he would've voted weeks ago on cavenaugh. Well, he deferred to the Senate will let the Senate handle that. They'll make decisions and they can do a good job. CNN's Phil Manningly on Capitol Hill for us for all the breaking news and Phil, we just heard the chairman of the Senate Judiciary committee Chuck Grassley, put it simply that this was all just a gentleman gentleman's agreement. But I, it sounds as though enough senators are standing with Jeff flake that the majority leader, Mitch McConnell has no choice, but to delay this all week yet to put a playmate. Jake, this is a math issue for the Senate majority leader, Mitch McConnell, and that is why Republicans have agreed and just put out a statement that they have requested the White House requests that supplemental background check to connote no longer than one week from today. It's. Just the latest hurdle in a nomination that is contained well about a dozen of them just over the last ten days. Four supreme court nomination define by dramatic twists and turns a significant new potential detour. I will only be comfortable moving on the floor until the FBI has done more investigation than they have already. It may not take them a week. I understand that some of these witnesses may not want to discuss anything further, but I think we're, we owe them due diligence is interject flim telling colleagues, he will only support Kavanagh's nomination on the Senate floor. If those floor votes are delayed and or one week, FBI probe into assault allegations is commenced. The Democrats who have been, I think, justifiably uncomfortable moving ahead could could publicly in an effort to bring this country together. Say that we would feel better. I'm not expecting the vote, yes, but not to complain that an FBI investigation has not occurred that pronouncement coming after more than an hour of dramatic in secret closed door talks between flake in the panels, Democrats starting right here, fleet departed, the hearing room in order to meet with Delaware democrat, Chris coons later praised flakes move. It is my hope that we could work together on a bipartisan basis to diligently pursue FBI investigation within the next week, not for the purpose of delay, but for the purpose of investigating further, either allegations made by Dr forder others with a gold towards demonstrating a bipartisan commitment to diligently investigating these allegations. Thank you, Mr Chairman, thank you. Senator flake moments. Later committee, chairman, Chuck Grassley. Cold revoke, call the roll cabinet nomination moving to the floor of the Senate along party lines, but the whole affair. Air. A stunning turn given flake just a few hours prior announced he would vote to confirm cavenaugh and the first floor vote scheduled to take place less than twenty four hours away. But in between that statement, those secret conversations in the committee vote. This. Sweeps me. I didn't tell anyone in your telling all women bagel matter that they should just stay quiet because if they tell you what happens, you're going to ignore them. Elevate by woman who said she was a sexual assault survivor. Something that made him visibly shake when he entered the hearing room and throughout the meeting, this country's being ripped apart here, and we've got to make sure that we do Dil do allegiance. And Jake, that's actually the same message that Senator coons said. Senator flake had told him behind closed doors. Now it's worth pointing out. This is exactly what Republican leaders and committee chairs have been rejecting for weeks that that FBI investigation. The Democrats have been calling for, but they were simply left with no choice. Jake, as you noted, it wasn't just Senator flake. It was also Senator Lisa Murkowski Senator Susan Collins Senator Joe Manchin on the democratic side is the every undecided Senator that Republican leaders need to move this nomination to completion. They didn't have because of what Senator flake did. And that means for at least a week, even though they will start the process tomorrow on the floor, the Senate is going to be frozen and wait for the FBI. All right, Phil Mattingly on Capitol Hill with all the latest and fills story was going on. We got a comment an official statement from the Senate Judiciary committee and let me just read it. It says the Senate Judiciary committee will request that the administration, the Trump administration, instruct, the f. b. i. to conduct a supplemental FBI background investigation with respect to the nomination of. Judge having ought to be an associate Justice in the supreme court. The supplemental FBI background investigation would be limited to current credible allegations against the nominee and must be completed no later than one week from today, we're trying to find out what current credible allegations means, my guess. And I'd like to hear what you think Senator my guess is the allegations made by Christine Blasi Ford, professor Ford and not necessarily allegations made by anybody else, but that's just based on the fact that they had a hearing about that one, not the other two. Well, the fact is that this was pointed out by Thom Tillis yesterday at the hearing, none of the Democrats essay questions on the other, and they certainly could've asked questions on the other one with respect to just judge Cavanaugh. They didn't because only they saw them as credible allegations. So I certainly don't think Chuck grass in the Senate Republicans believe those other allegations are credible. And I think that's probably where it's going to be limited to. What's your reaction. Senator flake did the right thing. This nomination was on shaky ground. From the beginning of his very clear that the women who. Voice their opinions to him very passionately in that elevator got to him. He was uncertain of how he was going to vote all along. I mean, he made that clear all along, but that between him and his colleague that he's close to Senator coons this is what we get. So Senator flake did the right thing. The investigation should take place in the Republicans should have done this a long time ago. I've heard the analysis that this is actually a savvy move by Jeff flake and Republicans, even if they were forced to do it, and even if you don't like Jeff flake because what it does is it removes talking point from the Democrats, which is why didn't you even just do another FBI investigation. Now, there will be that and the likelihood is and who knows what will happen. But the likelihood is there won't be anything new that that turned up just based on how these things happen decades after the fact. So let let's not fool ourselves. The goal posts will move when the week is over, and that is what people who object to flakes decision object to is this. They become you think it'll be. They need to be here in in public hearing if. It's just the forms from the FBI that being said, I do think you're right. Look, there's a lot of people. There's a large chunk of this country, the believes him and things grieving Justice has been done. There's a large part of the country that believes her and things agreement. Justice has been. There's also a huge presses country that's ambivalent about this many of whom I've talked to in my personal life who say, look, they both seemed credible. This is very hard to to adjudicate. It was extremely hard to adjudicate last week. It remains extremely hard to adjudicate. I'm not sure what the FBI will be will be able to drill down on, but you give that chunk of people something to hang their hat on those people include flake and Murkowski and Collins. So I think the date has to be a hard line that you vote. No, it's no longer than one week a week from today. I want you to take a listen to Senator Chris coons democrat on the judiciary committee. He's friends with Jeff flake and he's talking about how flake in his view is trying to serve as a role model. Tomlin who is willing to take a real political risk and upset many his party by asking for a pause so that the American people can hear that we are able to work together on some things that even though he and I are from different parties with different values and different backgrounds, we respect each other and we can work together. What do you think? I think this is exactly what the Senate needs. Frankly, I think the damage to that institution was terrific and the damage to the court will be lasting should Judge Kevin. I'll go through and become Justice cabinet. Think with Senator coons and center flake or trying to do is find some way to begin to put this back together. We all saw the footage this morning after Senator flakes it, I'm gonna vote to confirm cabinet. Women confronting him. Women who've been victims of sexual violence confronting him tearfully. I dunno, Jeff flake. He looked like a man who was shattered and crushed and affected and the listening. He could've shoot them out. He coulda had security kick them out, but he, he listened in it really to me like this is a guy who's taking this. Seriously. Now, people like me have criticized a lot because he gives these windy speeches on the Senate floor about comedy, indecency coming to get any votes with Trump ninety five percent of the time this time he's actually acting not just speaking. I really think it began by listening to those women. I think all of us would do well to do more of that. What's your reaction as a former Senator? I think that the Republican leadership has done announce standing job in anticipating what was going to come down the tracks here the the reality is that the re I believe the reason the leadership and and chairman Grassley did not. Capitulate to the Democrats and hold up hearing is you don't do that until you need to do it right. And he didn't need to do it until the votes were cast. And you have to have something you're holding to say, okay, I can give you this. And I do believe that it's the right thing to give. I think Catherine's point two and others hopefully have made. This is that is I think this is a good thing for the process. I think that that this is good for judge Cavanaugh. I think they were the judge was sort of holding back and not answering because he was confronted one or two, just turn it on again and aspirin, and he couldn't because he needed to keep this arrow in the quiver for the Republicans to fire to get the vote. They need you. Now they have it and it's going to be good for him because now he's going to be able to say, they look, the FBI has cleared me and all these. It's going to be good for everybody. So I'm actually very happy the way things have one from his point of view. I, I think that he believes he's innocent and I don't think he's scared of investigation. I think he's scared of the delay. Because during the last delay of ten days, much of the media, I think hugely irresponsibly ran with a bunch of outlandish claims that we're not corroborated by means the fact that remains the fact that the most edible, the most credible one has no contemporaneous corroboration no contemporaneous reports. If they get to the end of the FBI investigation into this, and that remains the case, I am uncomfortable with that being the standard for any person. I mean there there's a lot to unpack here so whether or not the judge, I mean, he could have very clearly. He was asked the question in the committee, would you consent to be ivestigations? He said the pleasure of the committee? No. Just say mitt to it. He has a storm cloud over his head. Jake, whether or not he's confirmed or not confirmed that supreme court will never be the same. And it's not just about the policy positions or the positions he may take as a judge on that court, but it will absolutely never be the same because he cannot get rid of the storm cloud that is over over his head standard. Everyone's took. Everyone wants to get a lot more to talk about. We're gonna keep talking about this is this in the MoMA. That changed Senator Jeff, flake mind, plus imagine having to be the messenger who had the tell President Trump what happened on the hill today. Somebody's got splaine this to Trump. So I guess that'd be my job. My name is Paul Shirley, and I've gone on a lot of dates. I've noticed something on these dates. I often find myself telling the same stories stories about my mother teaching sex Ed stories about playing college basketball stories about playing in BA basketball and almost dying in the process. We all do this. We tell stories on dates because dates or when we get to explain where we've been in, what we've seen in why we think like we do my name is Paul Shirley, and I hope you'll check out my new narrative podcast stories I tell on dates, you can subscribe for free on apple podcasts or wherever you find your favorite shows. What you are doing is allowing someone who activity by a woman to sit in this cream court did not horrible. You children in your problem about them. I have two children. I cannot imagine back for the next fifty years. It will have to someone. Who has been accused of violating young girl, what are you doing. I wouldn't have to me. I didn't tell anyone in your telling all women that they don't matter that they should just stay quiet. If they told you what happened to them, you're going to ignore them. That's what happened to me. And that's what you're telling all women in America. They don't matter these. You just keep to themselves because if they told the truth or just help that man to power anyway. You're telling me right now. Injure telling me. You're going to. Was that the moment that changed everything just a few hours after being confronted by sexual assault survivors over announcing he planned to vote? Yes. On judge Kavanagh's nomination to this cream court, that man you on the elevator. They're looking utterly devastated Republican, Senator Jeff flake called for a delay and FBI investigation before the full Senate voted delay that. Now Republicans have agreed to, let's talk about it with the panel. Do you think we don't know? And we'll hear from flakes point, I suppose. He had announced that he was voting for cavenaugh, and then that happened and then came this demand. That's the case. I imagine. He will probably say that I do think as a woman who was more familiar with sexually threatening situations than I would like to be as many women are. I do think that is not the way that I am called to weigh the facts in this situation. And so that is not how approach it. I don't think it's a responsible standard for the Senate to just use emotion and other people's experiences to to this. I don't think it's responsible to do it publicly where I'm called to be respectful to both the accuser and the accused. And yet that seems to be the standard, even though we're looking at the facts and I don't see a lot there. In fact, refutation of some of the facts that the accuser has brought and just trying to be respectful of everyone without letting the emotion takeover. Because frankly, that's what this should be about, and there can be. And emotions, but this is the way I'm called to deal with it in public. And it's the fact that this was for millions of Americans upsetting to watch the to watch professor Ford's testimony to watch Brad Kavanagh. A lot of people rooting for brecca, having in the president among them, it cetera. He's fighting back, etcetera from the democratic smear machine, but a lotta people seeing their own experiences rightly or wrongly. In this, this confrontation, Jake. I mean, people were triggered. I mean, even the phone calls to the hotlines or up by almost about one hundred and fifty percent. People were absolutely triggered. And as someone who has been sexually assaulted, I cannot say and have sisters who have been. And this is probably first time I'm over saying this. I even I was triggered by watching his triggered in many ways triggered as a woman triggered on the race in class side because as much as I keep hearing people saying that Dr Nita, he'll was treated. Or she was not treated better than Dr. Ford does. Even people make those kinds of comparisons is not fair, Dr need. He'll was a lot of malign and she didn't have the benefit of the movements that we have now. Now that's not to say as a country, we should get better and recognize this. But the emotion of everyday people is not the same as the senators and the fact that Senator flake could be moved. It's not that this is a wild move for him. He wasn't one hundred percent convinced in the first place that he was ever gonna vote, but this is no fairytale. So people are not going to be pristine about showing their motions about what they believe to be true. Now, we'll I will agree on is the apple salute Tisza now that I'm seeing that just because somebody says that that it is absolutely correct that may or may not be true. There is a history of in this country and nowhere should judge cavenaugh. I'm not even because I know I'm gonna get the, don't make the comparison. There's not about him, but there's a history in this country of black men being Blake. Named and that being the standard just because somebody we can look at immaterial as one example that little boy lost his life. So there's a wicked history in this in this country. But that being said, we have to understand that the metoo movement has elevated and brought this up in a bubbling and the trigger, and people need to understand that. I think Senator flake was very calm, cool and collected in that moment. He did exactly what he should have done in that moment, but the pendulum can go. Yeah, go Genucel. Yeah, I'm genuinely concerned that the that believe all accusers is a slogan, and it was something that I would bring to my friends and my family if they brought something to me, but it's not an intellectual or fair judicial or public. I would agree that we weren't in a court, but I do agree that we have to somehow say people why women lie men live human beings lied that does not mean Dr. Ford. I don't believe she's lying about what happened to her. Well, I mean, she's she's not happen to lie, but the way that I mean, the men there have been. So they can question they brought in the female prosecutor to question the win, Dr four to make it look pristine, nice. But then they were engaging with judge cabinet, judge Cavanaugh out of line yesterday and send them for you. And I both you served in the US Senate. I served in this and there is no committee chairman in my Senate in Ohio that would allow somebody to come and chairman Grassley say to to Senator Blumenthal, hurry up be quick. But then he said to judge cavenaugh, they take your time Jeff off was out of line. I, I think just Kevin statement was not out of luck state. I'm talking about how he kept his backlit or members of the committee was was at line. And in fact, I communicated that, okay. The White House that that he look, he was I, I can't imagine, but I'll try to imagine the stress and his his adrenaline must have been just an all time levels, but he he needed to, and I think he did is as as the hearing went on, but I think initially with some of the initial question is with Senator Whitehouse center kluber shore particular, I think there was all he, he was combative, would he didn't need to be? He was, he wants. He was rude when he didn't need to be. Why. Because he was prevaricating. That's think he was lying Senator Whitehouse said that today in the hearing sort of White House asked him about sophomoric terms in his euro. He did not tell the truth about what those terms mean according to reporting from from the New York Times, he FBI can now look into that set. A coach is even more telling she was asking him something right at the heart of the matter. Do you get blackout, you ever blackout drunk? Have you ever gone black? He may well have been blackout drunk and honestly saying, I don't remember when he allegedly assaulted Dr. Ford. This is at the heart of the matter instead of answering, honestly. Okay, attacked her. He doesn't tell. Handle? Can I just say that sometimes in the national sometimes in the national media, if you're accused of running a gang rape ring and you're innocent of doing that, it might take you off. I take you off always been a wreck. Greg Kavanagh's future comes down to these four senators, y, their votes are the deciding factors factors we're going to go into who they are and how they might vote stay with us. Howard Beck, and I've got been Gulliver of Sports Illustrated on Bleacher reports, the forty eight like you police. So you're really like violent, but what I look at what kind of a tree hundred from Oregon, right? But when I look at Lakers trading, it feels like the post likely plays it in the league that fits by. We'll break out at some point. So check out the full forty eight now, bleach report podcast and Spotify. Welcome back as right now. It is down to four senators alternately to decide whether or not judge Breyer cavenaugh will be confirmed as the next supreme court Justice. These are the ones who are undecided about whether or not he should be confirmed Republicans, Susan Collins of Maine, Lisa Murkowski, Alaska and Democrats, Joe Manchin of West Virginia, Heidi Heitkamp of North Dakota. The Democrats are up for reelection this November, here's why their votes manner. Republicans hold just a fifty one to forty nine majority in the US Senate Republicans can only afford to lose one vote and still get a tie fifty fifty, which vice President Mike Pence, then breaks if two Republicans vote, no cavenaugh confirmation is over, but they could help get help from these Democrats if they vote, yes, it is confusing and who knows what's going to happen? Of course, there's also Jeff flake, but ultimately I have to say in less the FBI investigation comes back with something conclusive. He really does sound like somebody who wants to vote for judge cabinet. Well, he's already put out a statement saying, he's going. To right. He voted for him in the committee, but then has now halted the process for a week, but I think that's that's the safest, but we don't know what the gonna come back with though he's clearly show today that he is open to changing. If there's new new evidence. In this case, new process concerns. The judiciary committee gave Collins a sworn statement from Kavanagh's friend from high school. Mark, judge. She questioned why the committee didn't get a subpoena and getting in and force him to testify under oath. She could get anything she wants really from the committee. If she wanted to do you think Mark judges subpoena sworn testimony to Susan Collins, saying that he doesn't remember anything. He's never saw break having behave this way. Is that going to be enough for her and how do you think ultimately she's gonna go, look, I've known Susan for a long time. I've known Lisa for a long time. Murkowski for a long time and and they are very, very much sticklers for process. They, they believe that that is very important thing to show the thoroughness of the investigation. For example, healthcare, for example, last year, one of the reasons Lisa Murkowski decided Susan caused in Beaufort because they had real concerns about the process. Was it open? Was it? And this is a constant issue with them, and it's a legitimate issue we have to. We have. We have to have the appearance as well as the reality that we've done our job that we've given given given the American public, the opportune to participate in the debate to in this case to get all the information to go through the regular channels and that we shouldn't be short cutting things because it undermines the. The institution, and I think they're very concerned about that and they should be concerned about. So I looked this was an important thing for the leadership to hold back on and to be able to offer to center mccaskey to send her mansion into Senator Collins as well to send her flake because it's important to them and it should be important to them. So Collins represents a state that is trending. Democratic. Main Murkowski represents a state that has a democratic governor into rather an independent governor and a democratic Lieutenant governor. Who oppose cavenaugh their home states might not be as pro Cavanaugh as the states as Zona and others. Right. I mean, it's it's an, it's an out for them if they're states are not super favor and people aren't knocking on their doors, but they're concerned about process. They get through this. I, if the facts on the ground haven't changed, it's hard to make an argument. I think that this meets standard that any person democrat or Republican that it should disqualify. If it remains the fact that there are no contemporaneous reports, no corroboration of this. And if they talked to the rest of the people at the party and they and they reaffirmed what they have said, particularly the female friend who says she didn't know, right. I, I don't see how that meets a standard for anyone and I swear to you. I would say the same thing for a democrat who's in this situation, even if I didn't jurists. Prudence. Senator Turner take a listen to Lisa Murkowski Senator from Alaska who is in favor of this delay just moments ago talking about her feelings about it. Feel about what has been agreed? I think it was a good step today thing you thank you. That is having to close to with all this best reporters around. But you have you have Collins this actually, assuming that more information, more damning information doesn't come out from this FBI investigation. This might make it easier for Collins McAliskey to vote. Yes, because at the end of the day, if there is this delay, nothing comes back, they can say, you know, we, we went, we bent over backwards to make sure that professor Ford was heard. I mean, just the pure politics absolutely might make it easier, but then again, it, it might not. And so that's why this FBI investigation is vitally important. And at some point, you know, I would like to think that the American people would like elected officials do something that is bigger than their calculus, whether they're going to win that election again. Now that might be a bridge too far asking politicians to do that, but this particular situation, you know, when I heard Senator Lindsey, Graham, for example, talk about how voted for Justice, Keegan, and and. My injustice. So to my or well, they weren't accused of rape or attempted rate. Let me be clear not so for him, the vote for them was easier than what is being brought to bear here and let the facts go learning warning. Only only one, two, maybe three Democrats are going to vote for judge capital before any of these things came out this purely on their belief and and that's what. Lizzy sport was unlike you. I don't agree with keagan soda oil guess as Shen. No, it's not the same because he was going to vote for the same talking. He's saying Lindsey, Graham was saying this before the allegations, regardless. He's also saying he wouldn't have handed handled it. So cynically as Democrats undoubted. Wasn't that I wanna I wanna see. Let me ask you about Sadie hand camp who's up for reelection in North Dakota and Joe Manchin was up for reelection in West Virginia. Isn't it an easier thing for them to get to? Yes, after this FBI investigation, because then they can bend over backwards. And again, they represent Trump states this. I believe they already voted for Justice course both of them together. Now, Joe Donnelly today from Indiana said evid, for course, which I can't be for this guy. I actually think that that gives them more outs, but I think it is this thing up. I'm sorry. I think it does get harder for Dahlie if they don't turn anything. Here's my point. See, this is where it won't for every Senator turn on the investigation. Lisa mccaskey represents Alaska, many native Alaskans have a terrible problem with some of judge Kavanagh's ruling separate apart from whether he committed sexual assault. That's an important part of Senator Murkowski's base. Joe mansion is running for reelection the he's gonna win on pre existing conditions, the healthcare Bill, if you can persuade him. That Judge Kevin becomes just as cabinet and takes away people's rights to insurance after preseason. You do nothing to do with the FBI. So this gives opposition more time to work these senators on local and state issues and national you separate apart from whether he lied under oath at the Senate yesterday or whether you committed sexual assault thirty years ago, Republicans are worried about in a bit cynical with the drama unfolding on the hill. Everyone anxiously awaited President Trump's reaction to this new proposal. What he said might surprise you say with us. And providence head coach Ed Cooley is on March madness. Three sixty five. I'm excited about the group nervous in one sense because of our inexperience in the back court. But. Athleticism are lengthened much man, three sixty five now at apple podcasts and Spotify. Major developments this hour. The Senate will now wait a week before voting on judge bread. Cavanaugh and Republicans have agreed to let the FBI investigate the allegations against President Trump supreme court. Nominee President Trump this afternoon saying he's willing to do whatever Republican senators, dean necessary to move the confirmation forwards, Jeff, Ellen is at the White House, Jeff. I understand you have some breaking news on this. Jake. We do a White House official told me just a few moments ago. The president is indeed going to authorize and order the FBI to do a supplemental background investigation. He isn't. He'd following the wishes of the Senate Judiciary committee here giving a one week period of time. So the president is going to sign off on that I'm told, but it was ten days ago exactly. When the president said the FBI doesn't do that kind of thing tonight. He's asking him to do just that. President Trump showing unusual restraint today with judge Brett cabin facing a new hurdle in his bruising supreme court confirmation battle will I'm gonna let the Senate handle that. They'll make their decisions and they've been doing a good job in the Oval Office. The president taking no rare hands off approach to new demands from senators. This time Republicans that the f. b. i. reopen its background check on Cavanaugh. They have to do what they think is right. It is no message whatsoever. They have to do what they think is right. They have to be comfortable with themselves and I'm sure that's what they are after accusing Democrats all week of dragging their feet, they know it's a big fat conju chain. The president suddenly being deferential with their zone Republican, Jeff flake leading the charge and holding the cards on Kavanagh's fate. Again, for more than a week, the president has repeatedly dismissed the need for a new FBI probe. They've investigated about six times. But today the president saying he was support an investigation if Senate repair. Publican's asked him to, I will be totally reliant on what Senator Grassley the group decides to do. The president like millions of Americans was watching the gripping testimony of Christine Blasi Ford threat pit. His hand over my mouth stopped me from yelling calling. The hearing very compelling to looks like a very fine woman, very fine woman. It was an incredible moment, I think in the history of our country, but certainly she was a very credible with this. So the president also though, say today he is standing firmly behind judge cavenaugh and when he was asked if he's making any type of backup plan at all for any type of second nominee should this fail the president said district. He was very clear. He said, not even a little bit, not even a little bit, but we do know of course he has a list already of people who are ready to go. But the White House is standing by judge cabin on this. But Jake, this is not what they expected. They expected a triumphant day here going into that weekend vote. Now, another. Other week of uncertainty, Jake. All right, Jeff, Zeleny with the breaking news there and it is really remarkable how much things have changed. Now there's going to be an FBI investigation. Now there's going to be a one week delay, and it would fact it was just yesterday that feels like three years ago that Senator Chris coons of Delaware asked, judge Cavanaugh, could you? I mean, what? What's the worst thing that happens? If we wait a week and do enough behind Vesta Gatien take a listen. You say week to lay, you know how long the last ten days have been for probably an eternity, but the judge Thomas controver us every day four day delivery day. It's been a lifetime. Everyday has been a lifetime and he didn't want an FBI background check. Although he said he'd do whatever the committee wanted now a week delay and FBI investigation. Yeah. I mean, the worst that could happen to him is that more unsubstantiated claims of running, say, gang rape, bring when you're fourteen come out and are uncovered and nonetheless trumpeted everywhere. That's what could happen to him and his family in the seven days, which I think is what he was understandably hesitant about it. But look, I do think this, this has the potential. If I, I think the line has to be bright. If if people are concerned about process, the process should ended the date, they have dug naked because an open ended thing. I don't think it's seven days right at the seven days. We might have better in three days, and I'm going to say we just got some breaking news Senator, Jeff. Flake just said that the FBI report could change his mind. We don't know what the report will. Say everybody's concedes entirely heretical theme. So functionary again, not to say that people don't lie, but just the whole gate, the gang rape, we just can't play with that. That has happened to women. It continues to happen to women, and especially when you're poor, whether you're white, black, yellow, or that kind of stuff happened. So I don't wanna play with the gang rape stuff even though to be accused of that and not have done ties serious too, but let's not just play with the gang rape play. What other people understand. I'm saying on both sides. Okay, that is is serious and we can't play with that. But at the same time here the whole notion of this again, deep-seated sexism and not believe in women and the power structures in this country that have suppressed a woman's ability to be able to tell her story generation after generation. So all of this is being triggered now. Some of it may be unfair to Kevin off, but the fact that the FBI to get in there and investigate is absolutely important. Are you surprised at the measured tone? The President Trump took today praising professor Ford saying the week delay is fine. Astonish invasion of the body snatchers. Yes. About snatch. It was kids. This is how we've gone through the looking glass Donald Trump, right? Who's a wild man was measured and respectful and especially spectral to Dr four. Now he gets Kavanagh who's the polish prep school boy, who everybody thought was going to be just tells you saints. Just ask him. He came on hinged. He was the one he was Trumpian than Trump's that we've gone to the looking to Nina's point which he said. The Senate Republicans in the president believed her to be a credible person and actually did give her the opportunity. So when I hear these heard these women going after Senator flake, they gave this woman the opportunity to present her case and it's not like he is reading worded giving. No, they should be doing their job when they aren't buying their job is and when middle of the summer, but isn't accusation. They believe this was a credible accusation. They the opportunity was afforded for Dr four to give that testimony in to speak whenever they want. They gave the not they gave it to to to go out. And this was something that was really strange for tear because Grassley to go talk show seem to know that the committee had given her the offer to have that privately done in Los Angeles. So let's say Kevin. This is. One of the things that really bothered me from yesterday was that her lawyers were not telling her the truth. Her lawyers did not tell her that the committee had given them the opportunity to go out there because she seemed to be shocked. Oh, I didn't know. I mean that's trouble into very Troy, doesn't it shows the diet. Sign who hired these war. No. Recommend debrincat's recommend the lawyers clearly withheld information from their client of with. With seven separate separate from the series is separate conflict, conceited, your point about years of women, not coming forward with good reason and also a person who looks certain way and lived a certain life because he looks that part should not be karmic retribution for that without some very very, that's not happening. More summit is now that the White House says order the FBI investigation just white. What that looks like. We're going to talk to a former top of the Fisher with years of experience. That's next. Hey, Howard Beck, and I've got money mccutchen the NBA vice president of referee development and training on Bleacher reports. The full forty eight referee served the game, our players, our coaches, and our franchises are the game. And that's a huge distinction that I referees understand and it's wonderful to serve this. This game is the best game ever been to my opinion and I, we love serving the game. So check out the full forty eight. Now on the Bleacher report app, apple podcasts, and Spotify. Piling breaking news. The White House officials says, President Trump will order the FBI investigation of allegations against surpreme court nominee brick cavenaugh key Republican Senator Jeff flake of Arizona who set this all in motion says that f. b. i. report could theoretically changed his mind from yea to name on cavenaugh. Let's bring it former FBI senior intelligence adviser film onto talk about this fill one. Could the FBI investigate that might have any sort of consequence. I think there's one substantial question that we missed the focus so far obviously, has been on trying to get information about what happened at that house party thirty something years ago. Clearly that's something that will come up in the investigation, and that's what the White House is going to charge you with doing. But let me give you a different perspective. You walk into the FBI to do interviews of people who were there. You're also going to ask about environment. What we're people like in specifically in high school and college. What was judged Cavanaugh like. What were his drinking proclivities you're gonna ask about his treatment of women. You're gonna ask about drugs. Here's the bottom line. Jake, I think there's a possibility. I'm not saying this will happen, but in any case, I witnessed that you get a story from friends that those thirty something years ago that doesn't correspond with the lifestyle story that judge told the Senate. That's what we call lack of candor. That's a potential you can see in this investigation will be on the assault allegations. We just got a statement in from judge bread cabin on the says, quote, throughout this process of been interviewed by the FBI have done a number of background calls directly with the Senate and yesterday answered questions under oath about every topic. The senators and their council asked me, I've done everything they have requested and we'll continue to cooperate unquote. So he will answer any questions if the FBI has any questions for them. But you're basically saying that the FBI investigation, even if they are told just investigate this one assault charge. Find out if the allegation is true. If there's anything more we can find out the FBI might say, well, we. Find anything on that. But we did find out that he was not forthcoming in his testimony before the Senate on x, y, z, and they could still go down that road. Even though they're told only investigate the allegation. I don't think the two are separate. If you walk into a room, let's say with people who knew him in college or high school, and you say their allegations about how we treated women, those people start to say, well, a lot of don't remember because the entire environment was of beer, fueled environment. Everybody was drinking fifteen beers and judge cabinet was I don't think the two issues are separate. I could clearly see the investigation heading down towards how confident are we that we can understand what happened in those rooms because everybody including judge Kavanagh according to many witnesses had way too much to drink in this doesn't correspond to what we heard. Judge cavenaugh say, I'm not accusing him of just saying this would be a standard. Investigative question I would ask is one week enough to investigate any of this. I don't think it is. I some simple reasons. Look, you're not just talking about interviewing a bunch of people you gotta find him. I obviously in cases like this, if it get. It's he said, she said with a lot of witnesses, you got arena interview four people say one thing, one person says another. I wanna go back around them and say, why did you say something so profoundly different? If I were the Senate which you do is call Chris way the Ray, the FBI director, say, how fast can you do it? He's not going to say a month. I think a week maybe two weeks, three weeks. But a week sounds really fast to me. So Kevin is high school friend. Mark, judges lawyers says, judge will cooperate with the law enforcement investigation always seen from judges a sworn statement about the allegation. Is there anything the FBI could learn from him that they didn't get from the statement? Oh, heck, yeah. You learn a lot about what people say and what they don't say. This is why time and multiple interviews is important if he chooses not to say things about what happens or what happened or what he remembered happened years ago and people in his circle contradict and he's in trouble. So it's not just what he says. It's what he doesn't say. Be careful. And what about changing stories is a possible? Does it happen? Investigations, somebody submits a sworn statement, and then they later investigated. Contradict it. Oh, constantly. We lost CIA applicants constantly for changing stories. You say you didn't smoke marijuana in college? Six of your college friends say you did. We didn't care if you smoked. We cared about lack of candor in if you said you didn't and five friend said you did. You're not getting the security clearance, you're out. All right, Phil, thank you so much. It's all the time. We have sure to tune into CNN Sunday morning for state of the union. 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GSMC Baseball Podcast Episode 260 Trade Winners/Losers and Playoff Talk

GSMC Baseball Podcast

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GSMC Baseball Podcast Episode 260 Trade Winners/Losers and Playoff Talk

"The. Golden State concepts baseball podcasts, we cover everything majorly from sprint treat the world series got your favorite club cover from New York to Boston to La. vix Is the golden state media concepts, baseball podcast. Is Time, and talk some more baseball here on the GMC baseball podcasts on the GS MC podcast network I'm your host Colin Manley. It is currently September first. Yes. We made it to September as we are recording this and makes for some exciting times as baseball is coming down to the wire as we're past that halfway mark just a lot of excitement in the game I know that I came across the tweet on. Twitter page and seeing how tight the nationally is how wide open it is I mean the NL Central When it comes to the second place spot, the car brewers will in one game back reds two and a half and east phillies. Marlins are tied mets two and a half back nationals for back. In L. West, the rockies for back giants four and a half Nymex seven but still. A lot of possibility for a lot of these teams to just try to make the playoffs, make a push and good thing the trade deadline. Because a lot of these teams are trying to get in there for sure. So we have a lot of things to talk about considering the trade deadline's passing. We're going to start things off with news and noise like talk about some trade winners, soup trade losers in the season. And, we want to take another look at play offs of what they would be as of today we talked about this last week. It was a very exciting thing to look into and the fun thing about it is as a week passes, we look at it again and there was so much movement and so much change. So I WANNA take a chance to look at that. I talk about some potential other match that we could see in the postseason but starting things off with news and get you caught up on all thirty teams around the League in baseball. Well, we're going to start off with injury news and with one of our biggest stars at baseball we have we're all the Kunia junior for the braves. He had to leave Atlanta's game against the Phillies at Citizens Bank Park on Sunday night in second innings. Due to some right hamstring tightness he had just gotten back. We had just got him to return to the lineup Wednesday from an injured list stint because of an inflamed left wrist that sidelined since eleven. storrow peeler was also starting to turn things around a little bit as he was hitting two, sixty, six with five home runs in ninety five plate appearances this season. So you hope for a quick return for him especially at NFL East where the braves are holding on a top. PHILLIES are coming. It feels like you know that they're gonNA WANNA be full strength at Atlanta braves team for the Chicago cubs. Tyler chat woodhead an MRI. On his right elbow revealed a flexible pro Nader strain cubs, general manager, Jed hoyer announced Monday. There's no timetable for Chet was return as right now, and he will be placed on the day I l prior to Tuesday's game against the pirates who is making his second start since an Alston due to emit backstrom exited in the cubs ten one victory over the reds in the third inning. Due to some right elbow discomfort he immediately summoned to the dugout after spiking a pitch and he came out of the game afterwards you could just tell he was frustrated having some issues. For the New York mets dilip dances. And Steven Mats were both placed on the ten day L. is Sunday while the mass move was unsurprising after some reports of having a shoulder issue Saturday the club revealed Sunday Matanzas had been dealing with a latte issue prior to his wild pitch resulting in a walk off loss to the Yankees Saturday. Stephen Match at pitch a perfect fifth inning in that game. But afterwards, manager Luiz Rosset left-hander might be headed to the injured list with some left shoulder discomfort he felt earlier in the week prior to hiatus he was you know created from cove nineteen last week the mets were planning on moving massive the bullpen because of his early season struggles in the rotation but instead, he's going to be making a move to the I l. along with the chances big hits for the mets as they were fighting in that and L. S. as well. So they're going to need some pitching help going forward for the Chicago White Sox play Gio Gonzalez ten day L. List. Retroactive to August twenty seventh with a right groin strain, he sustained warming up in the bullpen during Friday's game against the royals Yonne. MOCATTA also missed his second straight game Monday with some soreness in his hamstring on his left leg General Manager Rick, Hahn and manager recruits reassess showed improvement, Sunday, he had some treatments they were seeing some positive signs. Moving forward and the hope is that he will return in the next few days. So hopefully, not a very long injury stood for Mankato as the white sox are trying to make the push to win that American league central as they've been one hundred teams at baseball the Yankees have a ton and ton and ton of injury news after hitting a game-tying. HOMER and game one of the Yankees doubleheader against the mets on Sunday Aaron Hicks head. Exit. Game. Tune. The fifth inning with cramping at both of his caps both Hicks and manager Airbud said after the game they don't think the issue is going to be significant. So hopefully, he should be back shortly should Carlos Stanton was placed on the ten day I'll. On ninth with a left hamstring strain continues to progress towards return to the lineup timetable. Give him for his injury was three to four weeks and Sunday actually mark exactly three weeks. So we're GONNA, probably be hearing more news about Stanton in the coming days. He's still not all the way there boone said, but he's doing well with the progressions and stuff. He's not all the way out of the woods yet as far as the injury, but he is running about seventy five to eighty percent hitting and doing that stuff is not a problem. We just WANNA make sure we get to the finish line with the injury. So I also wonder if potentially we'd see something like a pinch hit at bats or something and. Maybe, trying to ease him into the game. Will See with the Yankees moving forward. The Yankees may also not have Aaron Judge in the lineup again until the final week of the regular season, judge had sustained a re injury to a soloist muscle of the right calf on Wednesday in Atlanta and had been told to expect his re tab to take twice as long as the first stint, which costs outfielder approximately two weeks. So that could be some extended time Zach Britton. Is Looking to be nearing return left-hander toss twenty pitches a bullpen session on Friday reported no issues is performed fielding drills covering first base he was scheduled to throw from abounding in on Sunday after which could be activated from the I l. and then gleyber torres add some issues with left hamstring and left quadriceps strands took ground balls and hit indoors on Saturday Aaron Boone senators is doing really well probably better than I would've. But there is no set date for his return as of right now for the Los Angeles angels almost at Anaheim Angels there David what's your came out of Sunday's Gaming Mariners, Angel Stadium in the fifth inning after twisting his left ankle trying to beat on a play at first base. Fletcher. was quoted later saying hit the base my right foot in my left foot after the base it goes trying to get away for the pitcher and appealing off to the right a little bit manager Joe Man said Fletcher is day to day at the moment and he hopes that he's going to return to the lineup Wednesday after the angels game Monday Nha. Tuesday any help to get that team rolling again as they are far behind in the playoff hunt, we'll see what happens with David Fletcher moving forward. For the Tampa, Bay Rays Yang Dyas is considered day to day with right hamstring tightness and we'll be reevaluated on Tuesday after he exited a game against the Yankees on Monday, the bottom of the fifth, the race said that has felt some discomfort in his hamstring as he ran bases. In the top of the Third Ryan Yarbrough he became the eleventh rays pitcher to be placed on the I l. when the CO put him on the Tenth Day list along with Mike On Saturday Yarbrough toss six two-thirds innings on Fridays to victory over the marlins before exiting do left groin tightness he had been dealing with over the past couple. Of Starts Club is hopeful though that he will be able to return. To the rotation when he's eligible on September seventh from his I l stint meanwhile makes noodle was scratched from Friday's lineup with a left oblique strain. He sustained during batting practice catcher missed a significant amount of time last season with this injury but they're hopeful that after this short stint on the that he will be shorter this it'll be a shorter snip on the time and he doesn't feel as severe as the two thousand nineteen season. chaz Roe was placed on the ten day with right. Last week was moved to the forty five day I l after feeling more elbow discomfort while throwing I'm flat ground tested not reveal anything that would require surgery but it looks like he's going to be shut down for the rest of the season. Justin Turner for the dodgers had exit in six two loss to the rangers on Friday after sustaining a left hamstring injury while stealing second base manager Dave Robinson Senator Turner has a low grade strain and will be reevaluated on Tuesday after having a day off on Monday. For the Oakland Athletics Marcus Simeon was scratched from the starting lineup due to Saturday's game against the Astros Edmund make part with left side soreness scheduled undergo an MRI with Simeon scratched from the Lineup Matt Chapman moved from third base to shortstop one gold glover eases villain in that spot. That's a good thing defensively to have for his first start at short in his MLB career you said he's a good glove probably was not having a lot of issues with that move at all. Evening Moldy was placed on the ten day L. Saturday for the Boston Red Sox with a right calf strain red sox are hoping the right hander would be able to take them on Sunday against the nationals but his calf remains soar after bullpen session Friday. For the San Francisco giants. Trevor. Cahill had to leave in a five two win over the diamondbacks in the fourth inning. had. Some left hip discomfort in this is something that is for sure scary when it comes to pitchers if there's any issues with hips at all, he really wanNA proceed with caution. He entered Saturday start with one point six four era over eleven innings this season in place of Jeff Samardzija. So we will have to be watching Kahlil moving forward especially when the giants team that's been quite hot recently some other news across the MLB that doesn't have to do with just injuries while the MLB postponed the athletics mariners season finale out of an abundance of caution. Nouncement came after MLB, initially postponed games between the as mariners on Tuesday and Wednesday in Seattle after a member of Oakland's organization tested positive for Cova. This past weekend we're still having some of these positive tests coming out definitely has slowed down the MLB has taken a great deal of caution with any of these positive tests that you can see that here with this as in mariners season, Thursday's game has now been postponed as well. There has been no other positive tests among as personnel since the initial positive test. And that's according to a statement from the MLB and members of the team who were not identified as close contacts have been approved to travel back to Oakland. The three game series is expected to be made up on a September fourteenth doubleheader in Seattle and with a single game that's been scheduled in on September twenty six now becoming a double header as well. The first place athletics who have not played since last Saturday are scheduled to resume again on Friday when they get to have the San Diego padres coming to. That would be a very exciting series. Hopeful to see that one going the astros return. Against the Rangers after having some corona virus postponements as well. They are scheduled for Tuesday night. After their Sunday game against the athletics was postponed because of a member of Oakland Organization does positive like we'd said previously. Status of you sincerely, the Rangers had been uncertain as they'd been awaiting a lot of these results for the Astros that they took on Sunday but there is no details providing whether the positive tests from the as came from a player coach somebody else. So we're kind of missing a great deal of information. But it is looking like. They are GonNa Return with no major major flags come in there. And one other bit of news I think is rather exciting I was this is just a cool story and I think this is GonNa be a great move by MLB but the twenty, twenty one and it'll be draft. Will move to July and be held during all star events. Okay. So it's GonNa be from July Eleventh Thirteenth held in Atlanta and it's going to be a part of the All Star game festivities according to a memo obtained by ESPN MLB sent out to woods clubs Monday about changes to the draft. The draft has been held in early to mid June for a long long long time. So this is definitely a bit of a change, but I think bringing this to the all star activities. It's just a good move. It's a fun movie. It's a good way to get a lot of these college players right in the action and you'll probably know these names a little bit better for involving this around all star weekend I think it's just a smart play by the MLB. So Just, a massive amount of benefits that come from this at allows the to just market and promote young stars immediately get them out there and. I'm all for it. I think this is just a great move I know that I am someone who watches the MLB draft and keeps up on it a lot of years. This is going to get a lot more than casual fans I think interested and they'll be seeing some prospects names and then guys that they can look forward to following to the Kudos to be I. Think it's a smart smart move. So that's be it for news and noise around the League given you all your information on thirty be teams in. The draft. So that's something exciting stuff. We need to start diving into trade season talking about all these traits that happen we have winners have losers. We're GONNA talk about some of that next diving into those winners here on the GMC baseball podcast on the GMC podcast network. This is your ultimate stop everything sports, the golden state media concepts or podcast should I say more from the NFL MLB? The NBA M may it's all in here golden state media concepts, sports, spot cast listen. Start. Well. I didn't quite expect a trade deadline like the one we got there was a lot of questions coming into this year. Let's be honest with it. We have a shortened season. We have some salary cap implications. We have salaries that are guaranteed employers way more than others. We have some teams that are really in the hunt for the play offs and some that are not the passionately is crazy tight the American league maybe not so much. So you had to see maybe they were going to be less sellers maybe there is going to be more by. To. Predict. But when it came down to it. We had a way more exciting trade deadline than I ever could imagine for in big names even got moved. This is crazy. Nobody was expecting this stuff and. Ultimately. It sure feels like we have a lot of different winners in this trade deadline for sure. So I WANNA talk about teams that did great things, and it's very easy to start off with the team that did the best of this trade deadline in the San Diego padres. I love this team at the start of the season they were one of the teams that I thought could be incredibly exciting with their young talent the players they have the prospects coming. They started producing the season and playing very well. They know they are serious team that could go far. So what did they do? They went in attacked. One of their problems in got starting pitching. It notches any starting pitching. They went out and got an ace in Mike. Levinger I was just excited for this. It made me start deep diving into the padres because I had. The question is have they had it pitcher that they considered this much of a top end starting ace. Since like Jake peavy now, there was other names in there that affect good season Aaron rain had a good season for the padres met late does had his moments for the padres but I'm talking top end guy we know who starting every game for them to start a series of possible. Someone they're going to throw out there and feel pretty confident night in night. And it just feels like they don't. Have that on their roster at least haven't had it for a long time. So clemenger was a very exciting add especially when you consider a lot of the top pitching that will still be coming. For the Padres I am just incredibly excited about this and then on top of that up. We had some concerns about the back end of the bullpen for the padres. Well, they kept going from there and they went and got Trevor Rosenthal from the Kansas City royals who's having a great rebound season. And he's going to help shore things up even though I think the team should start giving drew pomeranz or credit I mean he's been outstanding great guy at the end we I feel like we forget about him. Sometimes they go and add a bat in Mitch Moreland. From the Boston Red Sox, that's a great move. He's going to be able to play first base little D. H. for you. Solid solid play, and they made some moves for some behind the point action with. deuce cash Austin Noah how that's going to completely break down hard to say right now. But their debt that they've added they're all in their going for it. Now, I think that the. CLEVELAND, Indians walked away okay. With with the return for sure and I mean they're pitching, we'll talk about in a little bit. But. The also made all of these moves. And they didn't trade their four. Best. Prospects in their. Farm system. I just blown away at how great a job that the padres did. They're setting themselves up for this year they're setting themselves up for moving forward. This team just got so much better at questionable deadline. It is incredible and you really just got dig your hat off. Just applaud because Aj prowler padres general manager. Amazing just absolutely amazing what he pulled off at this trade deadline and. Now the padres are going to be exciting. So hopefully get to seek levinger pretty soon it to see some of these other pieces get in the lineup I'm interested to see how much scarier this team gets. It may not catch the dodgers just because of how good the dodgers really are but when it comes to a series now in the postseason if they run into each other, it's GonNa make an exciting. I'm excited for this team. Another team that I think is a big winner coming out of this is the Philadelphia phillies. Turning things around the Siem is they've been getting a lot better. As. Of recent that offense we knew all the names on the team. We thought of them as a potential team in the National League east that could make some noise. and. They knew what their weakness was coming into this trade deadline I mean, I think everybody does the MLB is worse bullpen. There was a six point seven three. So what do they do? They went out and they got themselves a ton of bullpen arms. That is the way to try to fix some issues. Their biggest one and least made more recently was getting David. Phelps. From the Milwaukee. Brewers who's been having some great outings for the brewers because that bullpen has been awesome for them this year that's it. There's is strength for the brewers. It has been there bullpens getting one of those arms out of there has been great. Also. They've added around Brandon Workman. He embry and David Hale. Bunch of options at the end of the Games as they keep fighting for a playoff berth. One of the best things you can do with these trade than you know your weaknesses go and try to fix your weaknesses and that's what the phillies did and that's why I'm in love with their trade deadline. Go get better in the best way that you possibly can, and they were a team that absolutely did that another team that went attacked one of their weaknesses and was very interesting to see and also may just a great move because of the situation. Would be the Cincinnati reds. Going out getting. Bryant. Goodwin. Alright. So Goodwin is a great addition to a team that's been ranked at the bottom third and on base plus slugging. And he would have not been available for this team at all if it hadn't been for the mets bringing or sorry the bring up. Joe Adele. If Jordan, still in the minors Brian Gordon would not be available. They just had too many options in the feel for the angels so they had to move somebody. Okay. and. After that, the reds may not have thought there's much more to do but then they go in and we grab Archie Bradley from the diamondbacks a team that had to sell their. They're just Kinda far back. It's hard to see them making the climb all the way to get one of those playoff spots. Bradley Twenty eight averaging ten point. One strikeouts per nine innings is an upgrade to the bullpen. The bullpen has been struggling as well when you go and attack your weaknesses at the trade deadline, it's GonNa be great things for you so. Loved Cincinnati reds had done. That was a great addition for the team as well. Another team that I love seeing what they did the Toronto Blue Jays. May just a collection. Of moves that just makes sense for this team they go and get Jonathan will are for Miami. He's a great plug and play player. He's GonNa be able to fill a lot of gaps. He can play shortstop through. Now until the shed comes back, you can move them around the infield. You can play 'em in the outfield. He's just a great plug employer that they're gonNA be able to use all over the place. That's awesome. It tasted on Walker to come in and have as a starter Ross. stripling was a nice move an upside move trying to get themselves some good starters. I'd Robbie Ray is another move that I was interested to see if he can come in and give something for the Blue Jays I mean just strong strong upside Moose, they may not make the playoffs this year they may not there on the bright side of things right now making moves winning games. If they can come back healthy. They're gonNA only be better. I love that they were going for depth and just trying to strengthen things up. Because you never know if three teams is GonNa make it from one division in this new playoff format and the blue jays are making that push. Why not with a young exciting team I? Think that's the move to make for shirt. Another team that I thought Had An interesting move Is, GONNA. Be the Miami Marlins with the addition of Startling Martic This is probably one of the better players to make. The move. Over this trade deadline coming from the diamondbacks again, the diamondbacks were looking to sell doing a lot of great things they're trying to. Make up for a midseason. I guess potentially as their offense was pretty good at the pitching hasn't been there. This over achieving team in Miami. They've been fun to watch. They've been doing some great things. Picks up a player Marseille. Eight twenty-seven Pius. And that would be the best on the club right now in Miami. In the middle of the order, he's going to be great. That's something that the Marlins just seemed to be lacking is that potent offensive player there? It feels like his option might not have been picked up by the diamondbacks so the marlins might consider doing that instead. So I I like the change that they were making Jonathan Villar was the exit for Miami but. I think they'll be okay with that move over all. I like the brisk that the Marlins are taking to try to go get a bigger better player. So they were a little bit of those buyers and sellers. It. Interesting to see because like I said, it was a crazy deadline. We didn't quite know. Now. We need to talk about this Indian team as well as many people are questioning the moving of Mike Cleverer and So. If there's one thing we know about clovinger. He's a great great great pitcher. There's an owner thing we know is there is a great deal of Club, control. In which we have moving forward. But. The Indians have just an absurd amount of depth when it comes to their starting rotation. So Seven guys have started this season this game for the Indians we take away clemenger six. Here are the ER as of the six guys that have started for the Indians. Were at one point three, five, zero. Civil, if three, point seven two. Zero three point seven, five plastic who is just coming back as well after he had been away from the team for breaking some Corona Virus Protocols one point two, nine, McKenzie two, point seven, Oh, a guy that they are trying to get into the lineup now, just getting brought up. So that's another young exciting arm to help fill that gap and then pukekohe five point five, seven rounding up but that's the six guy they have five quality stars. Four guys was Ra under four. Sorry. Five guys for the under four. They. Had An abundance of pitchers and they gave up one of their top guys. But they can fill the gap very easily and they had a bigger problem in their lack of offense. So I. Love the MLB MLB DOT COM had written trust the Indians trust the process that's the bottom line. They took a chance. It looks more like leading the padres won this trade after the deadline. But there is a lot here for the Indians going forward. We can evaluate our S and can te'o. Moving forward. For Twenty twenty, they also get a Guy Josh Naylor. WHO's GONNA come in be some little power for the Indians that they need because their offense has just been awful so far this year. So anything that they can help to boost their offense is going to be much needed. And they have the pitching league is said to win the American League. They can make the playoffs if there's one thing we know for sure if you have pitching. Once, it comes to the postseason. A lot of crazy things can happen. Don't forget what the Washington nationals did last year. They got into the postseason even though that their record throughout most of the year was trouble they got in at the end of the year. One wildcard game and road some strong starting pitching for quite some time. So they have a few offensive players at great. Yeah. They did they did. But they're pitching was the key to getting out of there, and that's something that the Indians can rely on and take a deep run with. And I think that's very much a possibility another team that's at least interesting a little bit the Chicago cubs unlike the fact that they tried to beef up their bullpen, they need the help there. They don't have a lot of money money space. Lot, of ability to. Do much that it was crazy but they went out and they got some players that's GonNa help them depth Y. so as Martinez is a guy that's gonNA play matches wise. Get some at Bats Cameron Maven was a good addition to your defense and he will play some innings as well. Grabbing two left handers to put your bullpen. Is What David Ross needed more options for the end of games because they're questionable part of their roster, really is the bullpen. Craig Kimbrel isn't what he is used to be. It's hard to rely on him. It might be a matchup game for the cubs moving forward instead of a true shutdown closer and that's okay. We're starting to see a lot more teams do that they. Mainly because of injuries and other issues trying to find the correct guy. But it's interesting enough that they went made the move. Try to fix up their weakness that's how you play the trade deadline. So that's GonNa be a look at some trade winners from are crazy crazy trade deadline. But when there are winners that means they're also are losers and we're going to have to be talking about that next after a quick commercial break and the GMC baseball podcasts. Tired of searching the vast jungle of podcasts now, listen close and here this output. PODCAST network that covers just about everything that you've been searching. The golden state media concepts podcast network is. Nothing less than our podcast bliss with endless hours of podcast coverage. From News sports music fashion looking entertainment fantasy football, and so much more stop lurking around and go straight out to the golden state concepts podcast network guaranteed to build that podcast is. Whatever it may be visit us at www dot gs MC podcast, Dot com follow us on facebook and twitter, and download on itunes soundcloud and Google play. I. Has To be said. When it comes to winners you're GonNa have losers in this trade deadline. I I didn't know what to expect. I have to be honest. It. Felt like it was going to be quiet. It felt like there was going to be a boring trade deadline that not much not much was going to happen. Period. And that makes it really hard to have a lot of winners and losers other than outside of a couple booze that might have shored up a bullpen put some death in some positions. We didn't expect many big things to happen. But We couldn't have been further from the truth has that deadline approach a lot of moves were coming out of nowhere, and so we're GONNA end up having some teams and I'm sure just kicking themselves. As this deadline has passed and I know that I have some for sure that I left Monday feeling. What were you doing? What you? You had an opportunity you have to look at what your team is you have to look at how other teams in your division or what they're doing. And also, what's what's been up with your team? Like what? What? Are you doing just sitting by leading this season pass by. So I have five teams I called trade losers and I don't really have them on here as trade losers in the sense of they've gotten fleeced trait. It was really hard to pick many teams that got absolutely destroyed by another team when it comes to trades, but I have five. We're GONNA put advice last six. That didn't make moves. And I'm questioning their decision making in this one and the first one to me. Is the Texas Rangers. And it just comes down to understanding timing. no-one it is for you to sell now I'm sure the Rangers thought. Coming into this season, they're pitching was going to be really good. And that's about it. You you just didn't have the offense there at all to make much happen. So we look at this team. And I'm sure they're sitting here wondering why didn't they sell on Mike Minor last year you move him to the Oakland A.'s the. Are. Making a complete. Move. In which they think that abetter team around minor they're gonNA be able to revive him this year after he had a phenomenal twenty nineteen season. So. You miss the opportunity to to sell high on him last year. That hurts. But now we have a situation where you can kinda fix that mistake. You Have Lance Lynn pitching as one of the best guys in the bigs this season. And you didn't move him now you have him for one more season. You can probably move him next year but losing that Year of Control, on a pretty nice salary. You weren't selling at its highest value and you don't know if he's going to be as good next year. So. I really sit here, scratching my head on this one and then on top of that. We hear all of this noise around Joey Gallo being involved in discussions. That's talented. Good player. That's GonNa Bring back some prospects. Instead. We see. Absolutely nothing happened for the Rangers outside of selling minor. and. They just they made no move no move. They didn't get any better. They didn't really get a hall of prospects. And so then you look at next season and you go what's what's going to change the Oakland A.'s are still going to be good. The Astros are still going to be good. The mariners are going to have some young guys they might be getting better, and if the angels go out and try to fix their pitching, their offense is going to be better than your so. It's just a stagnant place. It feels like Texas was an I'm. Just. Don't find it that they. They didn't move their most. Important to get the best value in land. Is. You. You wonder what was going on that front office they had been asking for a boatload and I think a lot of teams probably just got scared away at the asking price and just walked away because they didn't want to pay it. But if we learn anything I, mean teams were willing to make offers this this trade deadline wasn't a fluke. It could have gotten done. So surprise with Texas Rangers that's why I have them toppled. Melissa's trade loser another team that I have and it's it's hard again to put loser. It's you almost want to say just didn't take advantage. I have the Yankees written here because this is a team that just needs juice now i. know this is team is at injuries that has really slowed them. I understand that when healthy one of the most talented teams in the MLB. And that's what it looks like they're doing. They're relying on their health to come back. and. If it they may be just fine. And we'll look at this and say, okay, whatever the trade deadline meant nothing. But. Realistically with all these injury problems and then looking like they're going to carry on throughout the season in their last twenty three games. The new. York Yankees are eleven and twelve. They got absolutely manhandled by the Tampa Bay rays who have taken a lead net alias. And it definitely brings up some questions of concerns because if that health does not fix itself because it's short season, this isn't like a hundred, sixty, two game year. Would you can wait wait wait this stuff out and stay afloat. It's GonNa get quicker to the postseason than you think and then by then are we going to be sitting here questioning why they didn't do anything to add this team now there were rumors. That they were sniffing around some trades. We heard Josh Hater to help bullhead we heard Lance, Lynn. That ended up not happening. It just feels like these are not the Yankees of the all they've built such a great team through. So much power so much offense. They also have some arms at the back of that bullpen again, if it's healthy, it's GonNa be growing. But they had an opportunity to get better or add something to help them boost. And it just feels odd they did nothing. They said they're under five hundred. They're last twenty, three games. Would not have expected to say that even if I knew injuries, we're going to be a problem for the Yankees we just thought they were that good. It feels like they need some juice they need something to get them going and let's just hope for the Yankees Sake that it's guys coming back from injuries will help fix that problem because it's it's looking a little tough right now for the Yankees moving forward. Another team that I just. Two teams I'm GONNA put these two teams together, clump them together. In, the sense that I expected something. and. I'm really surprised we got nothing. The Minnesota twins. And the Chicago. White Sox. Are Two amazing offenses. They are high up there in the Al Central, the White Sox winning the AL central. The twins are two and a half behind. There's a good chance all three of these teams including Cleveland. It could make the playoffs. But it's going to be fight. In this. Ale Central. One comes to seating. CLEVELAND. got. Rid of. One of their best pitchers. Pictures there, but they made a move. And they got a little bit of hitting back. They tried to boost beget. We got nothing for Minnesota and the white sox. Now, the White Sox when you look at that roster and break it down a lot of young talent of offense, they're going to be able to great things at that point. But their starting pitching scares me so much when it comes to a series. That if they're not able. To slow down the team they are playing against. We're going to have to sit here and start talking about. Some major changes that need to go some major major changes. We have a guy in Lucas Golota who just had his? No hitter that was exciting three point one, four. Yara. He's been all right Dallas. Chemical. Two point seven zero but we know that he's not a strikeout guy. It forty three innings pitched. She's got twenty six strikeouts. He's a guy that hopes to get you out in. Other ways. And I just I'm just nervous behind those guys Gio Gonzalez just had some issues with injuries and then they have one other guy that has over thirty innings pitched this year. In doing sees. WHO's been? All right. He's been. Okay. But it doesn't feel like they have enough. Their starting pitching is GonNa be the thing that holds him back. If there's anything their offense is going to be great and we could again, we could sit here and go. They're very good team. We need to just let them go and be what they are. But I'm scared about them in a three game series seven, game series, five, whatever. If, they cannot slow down another playoff. The Minnesota twins on the other their offense is GONNA get better they're bringing is back from injury. That is not a weakness. If anything they have some prospects that we're waiting for a time where we can start calling all of these guys up. But helping that back into the bullpen would have been nice. Even if they wanted to go for a starter, they could be okay with that. They have to starters have been great for them in Dove, neck and Kenza my Ada. But getting a third would not have been a bad decision getting someone to help at the back end of that bullpen. We'll see we'll see what happens. Now they have some players coming back and Byron Buxton. Michael. Pineda's coming. Maybe they'll be okay maybe that's their trade deadline that's their acquisition to help them push forward. But it's just it's a little disappointing in a sense when it's such a battle. That between these three teams, it feels like they've really didn't make any moves to go anywhere. They're just like, no we think our teams are good enough. We're going to go ahead. We're going to push forward with what we got. Will see how it plays out. It's an interesting decision especially in such a heated heated race. My next team that I have. was probably one of my biggest shocks that I thought. They were GONNA make a splash to help out. Their pitching. The Atlanta Braves have had probably the biggest struggle out of any team in the majors in fielding, starting pitching rotation of winner of division going in as a strong playoff team. Now we have to talk about how? They have a great top end Guy Max. Good start. They just called up prospect Ian Anderson. who was good in his first start in, he might end up being a great player for them moving forward. But with all the battles on injuries having guys designated for assignment people that have opted out on the season. I would have thought that the braves would have ended team going hard after some sort of starter. To change the title. Now, they went in God's. Time alone. From the Baltimore Orioles. That's the one move. It just feels like it's lacking. We will see how they go. I'm kind of hoping Ian, Anderson ends up being a lot better if I was a braves fan, it feels like it's the the belief in the system but I'm scared about the teams that are coming behind you. I'm scared about the phillies a little bit do the Marlins. Continue to succeed. It's a tough spot that Atlanta's in because you don't want to oversell as well when you are the team that's leading, you have been the most consistent and you've also had some injury issues I mean when Ronald Kunia will come back and be healthy. Fully that's a big part of your team, a big part of your offense so. Little disappointment is well I mean there's there's a trend here. The Rangers were a weird one the sense of they should've known when to sell, but then the Yankees twins white sox braves. You know what you had for some issues. You know that you're in this thing you know you can make a run. It just feels weird that you didn't take some sort of move to try to up your team. So that's just kind of my thoughts on that whole situation. And then the last one that I have and because this one just hits a little closer to home. I'm very curious as why. The Milwaukee brewers potentially did nothing. Now they have a great bullpen hater was being talked about they traded away David Phelps to the phillies. To get back some pitching prospects. They're entering Monday just one and a half games back on the playoffs. That's what it was going into Monday, which is unbelievable. It's hard to believe that they are that close. Christian Yelich Ryan Braun Eric Sogard over Navarre's justice smoke are all hitting under two hundred. Out of the brewers, nine players with the most plate appearances only Orlando. Is hitting above two thirty? Two This is a team that the farm systems down. So that makes it hard to buy, but this offense almost could've used. Anyone. Anyone because they are struggling that much to get any type of offensive goint. They feel like they're backed into a corner because they don't have any decisions. I mean they called Jay's Peterson away from their alternate site recently, and he's been getting a lot of point in time. Just because they're trying to find anything to get going to Jerko was actually showing some little bright spots for them but he had to just leave. Team dealing with some sort of families. We don't know that for the full details, but there's something going on. You hope that comes back in that there's no serious issues. It's it's scary for this team. If they WANNA make the off Bush because there's so many teams that international league have a chance to make the playoffs still they are not out of it. They really are lacking any type of offense. To get anywhere at this point. So That's another team and just one more teaser. That I was interested in watching I. Don't really blame them for not making a move. I was just curious to watch. I was interested to see what what the Washington nationals were thinking. They have a lot of guys that could trade away some veterans. A strudel Cabrera Kurt Suzuki. Being a few of them. But when you're a team that just want a world series. You don't necessarily have to think of a rebuild right away. They've battled so many injuries. So many problems. Strasbourg hasn't been there full time. They haven't had Shire's there fulltime. It was interesting to think about. Them traded shirt I. I saw some reports about that just thinking thinking about it considering that his contract. is coming up to an end eventually here, but that's just a lot of money to take on. They really are. In a good spot where they didn't have to make any quick decisions. So no problems with what they did but I definitely thought they were gonNA team that thought about it. Thought about going forward because like I said twenty, twenty, one. He has base salary of Twenty, seven million. Then he's one hundred restricted free agent at thirty seven. I would have been an interesting discussion. Coming off of how great he's Ben for the nationals. How big you wasn't that world series it seemed like kind of a slate to trade him just to trade on but it was going to be worth the conversation with one more year control but the nationals are probably thinking that hey. We're not out of it yet but even if we are, we're not gonNA make any crazy moves because next year we're GONNA come back. We're going to hopefully be healthier and good to. So I don't knock them. For not making any major decisions. I was just I had my eye on it. I was wondering where they were going to go. So that's GonNa be our list of I don't like Saint Trade losers. Let's just teams at didn't take advantage that didn't better themselves because. It's hard sometimes to make these moves knowing that you're giving up farm players is just some teams. We can sit back and scratch our heads little bit why they didn't make a move. Unless if you're the Texas Rangers I really don't understand why itself period but that's that's our loan team that I'm just very very confused about. So that's GonNa be a for this segment here on the GMC baseball podcasts talking about trade losers we're GONNA come back here after a short commercial break we need to dive into the playoffs as of today. So where would they be? It's very interesting considering we talked about this last week. Lot of things have changed. So stick around here Gypsy Baseball podcast to get all your information on the playoffs potentially. Want to know the latest in soccer than listen to the golden state media concepts soccer podcast. L. S. The world, the Premier League, we got you covered the latest update hottest matches news on the League's top players the golden state media concept soccer podcast. Listen. Up Smallest The business. Okay we have to start talking about this. The playoffs are only a few weeks away. It's right around the corner in less than four weeks. The regular season will be over and it's hard to believe that that is coming as we're just sitting. Here. We didn't know season might be happening, but it's actually time to seriously think about the playoffs we talked last week about what the playoff matchups would be the season ended that day, I? Want to continue the conversation because I was surprised to open up. And Look how much change we actually saw. It was on believable because inches the week's time we moved basically everyone in the American league. We, jumped in and out teams in the national. League, we had teams that jaw drops from the number one spot. All the way down or sorry number two, spot all the way down to the number seven spot in the American league. There was this much movement that happened just a weeks time. So I wanted to take a look at these playoff matchups again, what they would be like it's just some new conversation, some new teams to get excited about and. Internationally when there's going to be so much movement in particular, it's interesting to talk about a lot of these teams because some of them didn't get mentioned really at all. So we're GONNA take a dive starting with the American League. This is the eight teams that feel a little more set right now I don't WanNa say sentence dome because definitely a lot can happen as the season is going on. But There wasn't as much in and out in the American League as there was just movement between the eight spots. So giving you that reminder again, the top three seeds one through three is the division winners. East, central and west, and in order records. So best record will get the one seed second second third. Then, the next three seats four through six will go to the three teams that finished second place in order that record, it does not matter if a team finishes. Division has a better record than one of the second places doesn't matter. Second place in division four through six automatically. Vital two seats and go to the two teams with the next best records regardless of division or division standing. It's just the best record so we could see a team. That finishes fourth. In the analyst MLS whatever a team that finished fourth actually make the playoffs in be considered one of our wildcard teams. So a Lotta craziness could happen there when we look at our American league, the number one seat right now, one of the hotter teams in baseball the Tampa Bay rays they have not lost. Since we talked about this last week, they went on a hot stretch. And a big part of it is because they're pitching was great. They are cruising what looks like to in Alays win they have just been. Dominant when it comes to performance and If. The playoffs were to start today they would be seeing. The Toronto. Blue. Jays. So the Blue Jays have not moved from that eight spot. Even though they have been pretty darn great six and four in their last ten. Tampa Bay rays on that six game win streak. This one is fun in the sense that you're bringing in an American League East battle right away. On. The Tampa Bay rays are considered almost a lock to make the playoffs at ninety nine point nine percent. So it's looking like they're gonNA, make it and the Blue Jays are actually considered a pretty high percentage as well at seventy nine right now with their eighteen and fifteen record. So that's pretty great for them. I love the idea of team has just been steady consistent all year against a team that's getting hot coming in. I'm not calling any type of upset here. But you like it. When you see a surging team come into the playoffs and actually has to pay someone top right away. That's something we could see what this blue Jays team. Tampa Bay rays have been hot as well. It would just be a fun match up and I would get behind the idea of these great Tampa Bay. Rays starters against these young Toronto Blue Jays hitters that storyline right there would be one that excites me and would definitely a lot of fun if we have to see busy. Oh, ambitious and guerrero, and all of these guys going up against the rays that just screams to be a lot of fun if this team is healthy. So hoping like a scenario like this I I would be down for it. I think it would be great. The next year as we would have the number to the Oakland as they were last week number one. Would be facing this. The Minnesota twins who were last week our number two dropped all the way to seven. So the top two seeds would end up facing each other in the first round this week. And that's how quickly things can turn this season. It really is incredible. Now. The Astros are starting to get a little bit closer in the Al West with Oakland two and a half games back. At This thing interesting Oakland's got to pick it up a little bit. So like trade for Mike, Minor I'm sure is a big move for them. Hoping that they're going to help up their pitching and things are GonNa get going for them. While the twins are actually in the middle of a scrum for the AL central as well we'll see where they even set up in this right now third, but they could be seconded then get one of those. Four or six spots. This feels like two teams are definitely GonNa move at some point. And? It makes it very interesting because. As, they drop all the way to seven. The twins could still fight their way up and be a top three seat. We'll see how this one goes forward. It's really hard to predict this to small market teams would be fun to see a lot of offense for the twins a lot of great consistent plays from the as. I really have just hoping that this twins team comes into the playoffs healthy and would love to see them basically against anybody. Our next series is the white sox in the Yankees. Last week the White Sox for seven, the Yankees were three. But in this scenario, the white sox would actually be the home team. On top in this division, if we don't go to like a bubble setting for the playoffs. The white sox are looking more serious contenders. Their offense is awesome. I. Stated my concerns with their pitching by not making trades before. This has the potential to be one of the best offensive series. We could see alternatives in this playoffs, Akis White Sox at the Yankees covent healthy. The amount of home runs the amount of offense would be so much funding get behind and to watch. And, something to point out here is that the Yankees Barely, get this because they actually have the same record as the Astros. But Houston has a better intra division records. So that gives them the higher seed. So this is actually very very close in there will be a lot more movement in this next week, we look at this again so I would much rather see white sox yankees than white sox astros because of the amount offense between these two teams but either can't be too picky. So that leads store last year of the Cleveland Indians burst the Houston Astros pitching verse a Great Offensive Team in Houston. The last time they made the postseason in two thousand eighteen they ran into a historically great astros team. And they were swept. This time it would be very different. No Mike Levinger but the Indians are still right there in the thick of the AL central still right there with some great pitching. It has the chance to be a very, very good series, but again, the Houston Astros. Are Starting to make some movement in the Al West. So it makes you wonder if they would enough time and be able to climb and maybe dethrone the athletics and then we wouldn't be talking about them in this five seed as well. So. Outside of those eight teams. Tampa Bay New York Toronto. CHICAGO WHITE SOX CLEVELAND INDIANS, Minnesota twins. Or is Houston Astros. We really don't see a lot of other in the playoff hunt. Of those eight, seven of them are considered about ninety five percent or higher chances of making it. Only, exception being the Blue Jays at seventy nine. Our next closest is that the Troy Tigers at twenty percent. And that's a five hundred record. So the American league is just kind of really loaded, but they're not out of it. They're not out of it. You could still kind of the twins, the problem that they have is there a division were three teams are any just race to the finish so tigers might just happen to get in the way unfortunately of that. It's looking like this is going to be our a, but the movement's going to change your mom. So that's kind of the story of the American Lee Right. Now, the National League is on the opposite side of the spectrum. As, we have very few teams that are considered out of it. The braves are at ninety five percent right now phillies sixty five New York mets fifty seven cubs, ninety six cardinals fifty eight brewers fifty two reds are sitting around fifty. The dodgers are considered one hundred percent right now the padres ninety seven Rockies, forty one, the percentages are all a lot higher even some of these teams interestingly enough that are sitting. Okay percentage percentages honored aren't like the Marlins. Their second in the NL, it would make the playoffs. If it ended today, they are considered a twenty two percent chance of making it the phillies and mets both considered higher chance. So interesting situation there but how it would break down if it ended today, will the dodgers still number one nothing changes there the rockies would be number eight after being number seven last week. Interesting to look at considering the fact that are eight last week drops out. So this would be a new team in. We will have to see. If they can hold on the rockies have been just kind of slowly falling down out of this playoff picture it would be fun to see a matchup of dodgers rockies lose dodgers giants last week still staying with that NFL west trend dodgers are five games up on the next best team. In the national, league it feels like they're gonNA lock this up. They are looking like one of the best teams we've ever seen now this rockies team. Is just going to have to try to hold on with the pitching they have with the hitting have they did make a nice move and getting Kevin poole art to help their team out a little bit from Boston Got Michael Gibbons from Baltimore to help out that bullpen a little bit. So they're trying to hold on to play off position, but it will be interesting to see where they go moving forward. There's a good teams in the National League that could fight their way in a lot of teams just the National League West. So that's just GonNa make the schedule even tougher for the rockies. The two seven matchup would be the Atlanta braves right now and the Philadelphia Phillies phillies were not in this last week. And it makes confusing because there's a lot of tiebreakers all over the place in the National League. So it makes it tough, but the phillies would take this spot the braise phillies good a nice east matchup loving these division match ups. That's the one thing about this eighteen format that actually is kind of exciting. This is first round potential rivalries that would be a lot of fun, and this is one for sure that I would be watching because. The braves might just have to hold phillies off and the phillies might search in. And it might just because of the slow start for the phillies that we might actually see this being a pretty close matchup for two seven. Which makes that exciting. We'll see what happens with the phillies bullpen moving forward. As, they made some moves to help that out, but it's been very, very bad. If they fix that situation, they might even climb higher than seven. So a team definitely to watch and you hope the braves get back healthy. Hope their starting, pitching its figured out and that they can hold on for their analyst as well. The next year Chicago cubs Miami Marlins. Makes you think of two, thousand three? s right away. The Alex. Gonzales game has been called the Steve. Bartman game. This is the matchup I. Think of right away. The cubs team is really good. It looks like they're gonNA, win the NFL central unless the cardinals host stretch in the cubs struggle back a little bit. It feels like they're going to get one of these top three seeds. Down this Miami Marlins team like I stated before their playoff probability percentages are low. But. That doesn't mean they can't hold on. They went made a move getting Marta from the diamondbacks starlet Martina to help out their offense. Their death was at some starting pitching spots. They had some names there. Some guys they feel confident in so. Maybe their offense gets a little boost forward, things work out for them. I think this would be a fun fun story line just because of the fact that the marlins making the playoffs after having to put together a makeshift team earlier in the year going through all the corona virus issues. I would love to see this team get. We'll see if they can hold on. They got the phillies there. They got the mets they're like we said before the nationals one hundred percent out of this thing. Looking like, they might be at the bottom right now but it's GonNa be a fight in the national east to the end. And our last series in the national, League would be San Diego padres versus the Saint. Louis? Cardinals. This four five matchup and it's the same thing in the American league is just going to be a tough start for whatever it is. It's GonNa be too good teams. A team that finished second in the division I find it hard to believe that it would be someone other than the padres considering how good they they've been. They'RE GONNA be finishing in the second most likely behind the dodgers. They have to have a little fall off at some point with all the acquisitions they made to bump up their team. It feels like they're gonNA hold into that spot, and if you're another team in the National League you're gonNA. Make the playoffs. You almost want to avoid that five seat. You don't WanNa see them in that first round matchup. Right now, the cardinals get that draw, they would make it. They have some baseball games that need to be made up there for sure team that's going to be interesting in this next month. Because they're gonNA have so many games so much activity squeezed into a short amount of time. We'll see how they do with all that. It's GONNA be testing for a team for sure. But they've been getting some performances. Paul Goldschmidt has been great for them. We'll see what happens with the cardinals so that right now would be. Are Eight teams in. The nationally and the American. League. There's GonNa. Be Some Movement is going to be quite a bit of movement before this regular season ends and I'm excited to watch it outside of the dodgers. There's there's not many seeds that look like they're going to be pretty close to locked up. I mean, and that's even saying the Tampa Bay rays moved from four to one this last week. 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Nina Turner on the Future of Progressive Politics, Plus - Why Networks Air Trumps Pressers in Full

Useful Idiots with Matt Taibbi and Katie Halper

1:25:19 hr | 6 months ago

Nina Turner on the Future of Progressive Politics, Plus - Why Networks Air Trumps Pressers in Full

"Welcome to usefully. It's maybe Katie Helper. Matt you look like Paul Shaffer combined this. I don't know who I was thinking of this more as a g love and special sauce type of thing but yeah could be could be anybody. Look when you when you're when you're bald man. You got to experiment with different kinds of headgear. I so I actually. I have a sleep hat now. You know those things like the you know the I and my stocking and he and his cap know I do. I absolutely have one of those. Why it's funny okay. Does your family laugh. Yes they left. My kids love how. How long has this Gagman going on a couple of weeks? It's it's a co- VID development. You know you start to odor weird stuff online because what else. What else do you are? You going to be doing during this time. So resistant or anything. It's just for fun. No it's just a it's just a a stocking cap with long funny vol on it. That's really funny. It's very funny. So how are you doing? Psychologically during this whole thing I'm okay. It's really weird again. I feel very distant from all of it. Yeah I'm I'm struggling to do. Let's just say the upside is to this. Whole era is elusive to me. I think we know we are gonNA find at the end of this when this is all over that we're learning a lot about things that aren't good you know like driving and highway deaths and spending not as much time with our families and I realized how much I miss the movies. Movie theaters movie theaters friends. I feel like this here. You said the the benefit what did you say? The benefit is allusive. Do upside. He said I really think that it makes me appreciate just friends. Normal friends like who? I haven't been able to see that much at sign at all that and movie theaters and Popcorn in movie theaters. Right my guy that yeah popcorn and would is excellent all right well. This is just getting curious curious through this whole situation many platitudes. Can we fit into this intro? A lot we end of the day at the end of the day when all of a sudden and all that long story short only time will tell only time one way or another one way or another altamont In any effect no in any event. Those are kind of Janta Ish platitudes. There was actually a newscaster in in Russia. This guy named you have gainey kissel off. And he he used so many nonsense phrases that we used to take them and cut them out and see how long the actual broadcast was if you took out ads. Really finding yeah. It was really fun. Easy to like a fifty fifty minute broadcasts. That actually ended up being you know about twenty two minutes of Youtube out all the kind of what kind of words were they fell. Afraid this will in Russian there were things like Mitch approach him and study and like they're like in other words as you know as we're saying what have you. What have you that that sort of white not and like all right? We're drifting here. Let's let's get to the four food. Groups shelling around. Lots of stuff happened this week. What do we have for Democrats suck this week? And that's you isn't it? Yes that's me. Yeah for Democrats Suck. There's so much let's say let's start off with the Pelosi sharing her ice cream which was seen as somewhat out of touch. That's watch a couple of seconds or the opening of this video and then we can see what trump turned it into because when life gives you ice cream make agitprop videos show and tell Speaker Pelosi. What have you found? What are you going to share with us from your home? Chocolate really chocolate chocolate candy. A while and this is this is something you can get through the mail. Run out and show. Yeah absolutely not cross while other people in our family for some other flavors but chocolate and then we have some other chocolate here. I've always felt a connection with you and now I understand why. So there's that right and then let's see what trump made out of this shutdown. It will be up to Congress to restock it but Democrats blocking that move. This morning they ask for quarter of a trillion dollars in forty-eight hours. I don't think so and they objected and I congratulate the Senate Democrats. What are you going to share with us from Your Chocolate Candy? Thousands have been forced to wait for hours at food banks all across the country since. Oh we have some other chocolate here. It's gotTa Stop the Ice Cream. You don't Wanna eat up everything at one time kid do a much longer. I'm trying so hard. Can we say enjoying having a midday? We're starving and I liked it better than anything else. What what is there even a say about like everybody in America is just such an asshole right now like those are two pretty vile pieces of political messaging one on top of the other. It's hard really to way there. Yeah I know I mean it's just because it's hard to weigh them because Donald Trump is so not salt of the earth but he's such a good troll and again the dams can't do Republicans is expected of them. This is built into it. That they're these elitists but dams really. This is not a good look for them even though we know that they are. It's also the type of ice cream like if you were going to catch trump eating cream. You'd catch him like breaking into a seven eleven and just eat whatever whatever was there you know what I mean. Like easy are like Turkey Hill. Exactly he would just be pouring like cursory syrup on top of it even like drinking yeah like main lining as he married. Cherry wearing a bunch of them. Like the really you know exactly just totally indifferent to what kind of ice cream like this is just ice cream. Whereas she's got the she's got the organic and then the dove bar like the dub bars. It's it's I'm sorry. It's the international symbol of upscale democratic voter intended the bat symbol. That's what the flash any FLASH IN THE IN THE SKYLINE. I Dunno but that's such a low blow to be looking for we're starving and your she is right exactly. It's not like trump. Is doing that much to like alleviate the suffering people but also a lot of people in line? We're talking about how expensive that refrigerator was. But I wouldn't known that I mean. What should she have done? Obviously these people are going to have expensive. I can't believe defending Nancy. Pelosi refrigeration choices but obviously Pelosi is not going to have what like a an icebox as my dad actually calls her refrigerator not getting. I have one of those little sixty dollars student fridges. You know what I mean the one with like what one shelf on it. Yeah it's it's more the whole effect. It's the designer ice cream with the big shiny dual fridge and the dress. She's she's dressed like an Aristocrat in a futuristic movie. Minor tied around the like sleeper. Or something like that. Yeah Yeah not a good look for the Democrats there I mean. What is she supposed to do? Except although I guess I guess opening up your fridge through reveal the fridge full of designer as Greens is not laugh at. Maybe not like thing one you would do for messaging in the middle in the middle of pandemic which is becoming increasingly serious. So although I on the other hand feed get totally you know rimmed for showing something I'll fall to the earth because that wouldn't be authentic either. Yeah I guess so. Obviously we have a larger grape with nancy. Pelosi this week we we. We have time to talk about that. Well Yeah but can we. What do you think of her ice? Cream flavor choices. What's your flavor? Oh what's my flavor. Any chocolate vanilla coffee. What what's your thing more. Flavors ice cream shoots ice cream. I'll eat it basically. You don't have any preferences for gun to my head like strawberry or anything with coconut. Maybe but yeah strawberry. I mean there's a time a place for that but your my basic the mint chocolate. Not that you're asking mint chocolate chip. I love that. Coffee is really good. You know what's really oddly. Good Chubby Hubby. And the fact that that is good. Yup fight its name. That's a real marketing risk. It is yes but I told you the story. I visited the actual Ben and Jerry's factory in In in assist sister city with the liver the Vermont sister province up in Russia. It's the it's Norway. Never Bernie Mac right Burlington while it's one of them. Yeah so we'll it wasn't the city that they're talking about that news started. There's another place Cornelia which used to be part of Finland but they have been. Jerry's factory up there I went. I went up there and they were. They were firstly. You could get like a gallon of Ben and Jerry's for like eight cents. Which was amazing but they. They were developing Chunky monkey and they needed they needed a name to market it in Russia in the name they were. GonNa they were going to go with. I don't know if they ever did. This was banana Karenina. Which I always like that. That's so good. Right is terrific Well just so our quickly on the subject of Nancy Pelosi. We don't have to get into this too much but I did read a this week about the Democrats choice for the Congressional Oversight Panel which was basically the the whole bailout as three main oversight features to it. There is a inspector general. Who's going to overlook the whole bailout? There is a panel of inspectors general. That is going to be assembled. But that's those things are entirely executive branch sorts all trump people. So you can't expect too much there. And the last one is the single congressional oversight panel which is one person picked by Schumer when person picked by Pelosi a compromise choice and then to Republicans right in the Republicans pick to total killers. You understand all this stuff and banking experience derivatives experience everything Democrat Schumer. Pick the guy Bara Memorial who is a Warren staffer? Everybody likes him but You know young hasn't been you know there's only only every worked for Elizabeth Warren and then the last choice everybody was hanging on what WHO WOULD NANCY PELOSI PICK. For this crucial oversight position overseas will trillions of dollars to look for crime and graphs and all that stuff and she picks. Donna Shalala and the incident. That happened last week. Like my phone lit up. All these to call is obviously Donald. Ill is the former head of the the HHS under Clinton and congresswoman now in Florida doesn't sit on financial services has no financial services expertise whatsoever has never done anything involving any of this stuff. So the the universal reaction was why like? Why would you put somebody on who who is not going to be able to understand what she's looking at? It bothered me above Butler bunch of other folks. It's like you get you get one shot also just politically. They could use this in a great way over the summer to stand up and say look at trump doling out all these favors to Wall Street. And you know the the the bill programs don't work for regular people and you know all you get. Is this one time check. And meanwhile black rock and all these evil companies are getting hundreds of billions of dollars right and they they pick somebody who has like twenty six pages of stock holdings including Blackrock Bond Funds. And you know who has a net worth of somewhere between four and thirteen million dollars? It's just it makes it impossible for them to do anything to make any noise about that subject. Which I just don't understand politically this even on a cynical. Don't get it. Well Matt you know you're asking why Donna Shalala is a good choice and I get why you think she isn't because she has no experience in this but here's I think. I think it's pretty apparent when you see this why she was a good choice. Not citgo mode chairman completely different. Take on this bill. So she produced shop the Mike and it's a great song. I don't know if you remember this map and 2016 a bunch of movie stars Did like a version of that of that sound for Hillary Clinton or really no. I didn't know that yeah. I don't know I. I suspect that great video but Remains to be seen whether it with that. The project on government oversight is actually calling for her today as we speak. They're calling for her to step down so lane on her response is going to be that. That's it that's good that's good. It's so republicans suck Lots to work with this week. I think we gotta just start with the basics. Yeah which is the you know. Donald Trump's is ill. You know liberate all these states things which resulted in one of the greatest photos. I think we've seen of this era. Dan We take a look at the Shaun of the dead photo here so right so so I'm someone who tends to take a jaded view of a lot of the the flipping out about Donald Trump last week as we did last week and they're they're driving nuts about the way that trump is covered so every time trump says something it's become like this Like a cliche feature of of the press. Where you do a sidebar story where you have a reporter call legal experts say could this be illegal that he said this right it could it could have broken laws just by saying X Y and Z? So it's it's become this incredibly annoying like thing that we the noise out of the reporting because they're constantly looking for the for for some extra horrible angle. Yes smoking gun but this is this is genuinely yards you know and I i. I struggle even to see where trump is coming from. You normally I you see I can see even what the evil angle is on up to. I mean he clearly. He wants to reopen as quickly as possible because the economy depends on. He thinks the economy his his his tickets are being reelected any also. Thanks and he he does have this. This idea that these lockdowns are rooted in a conspiracy against him at the ruined the economy which is nuts on like a bunch of different notes. But these people are gonNA fuck. They're going to die the MAC and you set up what exactly trump is doing that is creating these. Shaun of the dead images so he he. He's been tweeting. Things like liberate Michigan Liberate Virginia Liberate Minnesota. And this is. This is now going hand in hand with a series of protests that are going all over the country where people are. They're going up to St us as going into. Federal BUILDINGS ARE KNOCKING ON DOORS. Getting in traffic there having confrontations with health health workers everywhere. They're violating the lockdown procedures allow them draped in the American flag. It's this whole thing And and this is going hand in hand with this You know the cure is worse than the disease argument. That's being made among all people. Dr Phil went there this week. In a way that I thought was pretty crazy Dan. If we could see that video two hundred and fifty people here die from poverty and the poverty line is getting such more and more people are going to fall below that because the economy is crashing around us. And they're doing that. Because people are dying from Corona virus. I get that but look the fact of the matter. Is People Doing Forty? Five thousand people a year from automobile accidents. Four hundred and eighty thousand from cigarettes. Three hundred sixty thousand a year from swimming pools. But we don't shut the country down for that but yet we're doing it for this and the fallout is going to last for years because people's lives are being destroyed. Pretty sure the number is is three hundred sixty thousand from swimming pools. I think it's probably thirty. Six hundred people dying of poverty is a little higher than that maybe he may be inverted swimming pools and poverty. Deaths maybe yeah. I'm pretty sure there isn't much of event diagram. Their book understand where people are coming from with. At some point you do have to have a discussion about you. Know when when when do we just start dealing with this as a fact of life right like we we deal with all sorts of other issues that are fatal right and are are killing us and we start dying from birth and that's all part of the reality but this is this is something that's totally different right and in the communicable disease. That is extremely contagious. And it's affects her we. We just don't know a whole lot that a month you know. Lake from from trump's point of view he's done a lot of things in office that are questionable. Yeah but but but I always fell with him that he did. He did Usually have some kind of long-term long-range political aim that that animated. Most of what he did. Here he I think he actually believes the this idea that the state the state lockdowns are part of conspiracy to ruin his kids economy. You can you explain many other way. I know it's funny. It's like usually we made this point last week. We make it a lot. Which is that. There's so much like wasted capital blown on the Russia gate stuff or on the is this legal stuff or what what we have to answer that is the is the bi weekly publication of a piece that analyzes trump's psychiatric some article state. That is like I love those but but again that takes away and distracts from the really agree just things that he does and the flip side of that is that like trump has a lot to say about the media going after him on. Fairleigh like the exemption just gave right but then this is him like why is he wasting that capital on the allegation that the corona stuff is a conspiracy to take him out of office. It's like the equal opposite thing that he's doing but I I would also point out though that this is exactly why the it was a mistake to over hype all these different storylines with trump for all this time dating back to when he was first a candidate. Either they they use maximus maximalist language about him constantly and it constantly turned out not to be exactly the case right And what ended up happening? Is We completely lost the ability to reach these audiences so now if you wanna say people hey actually okay? Yeah we get it. You're upset about the lockdown. But you really just can't go outside does not necessarily belong now crat. There's no credit this is. This is the boy who cried wolf situation. This this is exactly that parable and this for me is is a as as bad. A situation for the news media as we've had in a long time like the end of the inability to convince people Of the need to to Stand doors during this is just crazy and I say that as somebody. Who's skeptical of government power you know what I mean like? Anything Convince Skeptical of having to respond to this right. I mean we more than others but it's still it's an unknown but you just you just can't be urging people to go outside and crowds and like you know and have it's just crazy. These people are going to. We're going to be finding out that these people are GonNA end up and died some very. It's very tea party. Energy big big piece party energy right right but And just just to be clear even talking about this as a strictly trumpian thing is is is the kind of thing that's going to trigger people because again as we've talked about. Democrats did this with their own primaries. Yes it's different right. This isn't over but this is kind of the difference between trump and dams in a nutshell. It's like his is so over and such obvious an obvious call for reckless behavior. Whereas the dams it's like the subtle sometimes ambivalent mixed messages thing though to be fair that may just be Joe. Biden's mind not a political strategy when he within the same interview said that people should have voted and voted in Wisconsin. It is true that that doesn't get the attention. It deserves because these optics are so over the top so actually trump. If you're trying trump settled down so that the media can cover a dams role and getting people to vote right. I think he's going to me as we've seen his approval rating is tanking because It was all the way up the Koran. I think no because of this this last week. Or so of of mismanagement unprinted Harrington people the courage ing. Yeah like he was up at forty nine. Now he's down near forty three like he'll he'll notice that so let's hope he pays attention to it. But this this is a true Republican. Suck kind of thing and We'll check to see how that goes next week. All right what are we. What what's next are- we GONNA switch roles right. So terrible is actually speak. Speak of the devil or the devils literally. Let's look at this tweet by from Jordan. Y'All he's kind of. He's kind of ideological friend in the show so Jordan ole points out seeing a ton of people on the left point the finger. Republicans for Wisconsin yet make no mention of the atrocity in Illinois where where an entirely democratic say government top to bottom held in person voting applauded by the DNC and establishment groups and people died. And there's a story at the Chicago Tribune After Shapiro poll worker dies from Kovin nineteen and others test positive city warns voters. They might have been exposed to virus at polling places. And this is something I actually wrote a piece about to about. Because as we saw Biden's a senior aide for the Biden campaign straight up lied and said that the CDC had said it was safe to vote in these elections one. They had just said that meetings of fifty plus people were not recommended and then we saw Biden he was kind of by curious. Biden curious about voting within one interview in Wisconsin and we saw two people at least that we know of Broward County tested. Positive I'm sure there's way more and then we saw this person of someone dying. It's just like it's so craven and again. It's so I know Tom. Perez was pushing for these elections to go forward and Tom. Print is it. Tom Pritzker the governor of Illinois. Pritzker governor Pritzker said. It was safe and said it was fine to go forward with these elections and Lo and behold within a few days. He had ordered a stay at home order so somehow went from being safe enough for people to be squished into voting facilities and then within a couple of days. It wasn't safe to leave the home so I don't know how that happened. Amazing well I mean we've gone and we've got over this. The Democrats have been have been bad about this day and also a lot of the media organs that are now freaking out about the latest response to this are themselves also people who yeah so Tom. Jira Gura Tom Guru. I think his name. He's the only person who I saw remotely pushed back on this. He had lory lightfoot on a mayor the Mayor of Chicago and he asked her if she was after the stay at home order was given. He asked her if she was like. I know twenty. Hindsight is twenty twenty but any regrets about this. He's only person who remotely said anything That point that asked people to take any responsibility and then at least it's not only Illinois at least seven. New Corona virus cases appear to be related to Wisconsin's election Milwaukee Health Commissioner says and that's from April twenty. First Yeah for. Isn't that weird we we? He touched a little bit on this on odd covet products that are popping up. There's also popping up wait wait. Burnt guys turned up. We'll turn out to be done in a moment and also we we. We have talked a little bit about the odd headwear choices that people have been making the trump missiles. Let's take a look at this one story Which I think is the inspirational in is going to be useful in enforcing enforcing social distancing. Mom WEARS PENIS FACE MASKS SO CO video. It's kindly back the fuck up as us. Covets routinely ignored social distancing measures One ENTERPRISING UTAH. Mother has devised an unorthodox way to ensure the potential rotavirus spreader stay away. A penis covered. Facemask now her. Phallic Apparatus snippy APPARAT. Her fellow. Apparatus are selling like hotcakes. It was never my intention to sell masks. Mindy Vincent Tells The Post. She credits her genius. Son For devising the idea to sell them as a way to raise money for the nonprofit. She runs the Utah Harm. Reduction Coalition in Midvale UTAH. So basically. She's got a mass that she's wearing. Her face is covered in like decorate Nike missiles micro-businesses. I mean they're not intentionally micro but because we're talking about a mass that has multiple penises on it. They have to be small. They do have to be small yeah. I don't know if that's exactly the thing that I would wear if I were really really trying to. Yeah people to stay away from a dentist. We could look at the this other article with the list of people with a corona virus masks on there. There are a couple that are a little bit more off twitting so okay. First of all number twenty two. Oh my God for listeners to Tampons one Tampa in each nostril and then a maxi pad covering the mouth. Pretty resourceful resourceful number twelve also. It's kind of a throwback says plague doctor with garlic but it's basically the spy-versus-spy mask. Isn't it Dan? Yeah but with garlic hanging off of it and it's pretty ominous looking. Yeah it is scary. Garlic part is scary. The number thirty. Actually I have a personal affection for Dan. You'll down I'll fennel. That's just a slice fant. I like that because fennel smells really good said funnel or is it an onion so okay. There's a there's a dissect did vegetables that this guy has put in front of his face with the help of the rubber band. So it's like a mask featured this dress very classically liquor. Russian solution just put put whatever is there and then the last one is a number thirty seven. Oh my God first of all. They're driving a vehicle a little thing to drive around in the supermarket and seems to have just a plastic bag over her head going on there. The point the point being that we're gonNA see some really interesting stuff coming from people like you see people doing things like putting shoes over their face. Then there's the people who are Iran clicked. They put put like an antivirus CD over their face. Now being every jokey just don't go outside right. Isn't that a better better solution? Let's talk about the trump press conferences. 'cause this is an ongoing obduracy an issue. That's been a almost a constant for as long as this crisis is gone on. Has BEEN THIS INTERNAL DILEMMA? That the networks have been having a you know wither. Trump's press conferences should which we run them in full or not. And we're seeing what we're seeing her waves of self righteous indignation coming from press figures who are saying insisting that we should just stop. Stop running these press conferences and fall and the latest one was from Charles Blow and the New York Times. Dan Forgets to see the editorial stop. Airing trump's briefings is the name of exclamation point at the end exclamation point at the end. And if you scroll down a little bit really qualified act so so he Charles Blows. Making the point at the beginning of his article that Donald Trump got nouns a free coverage during the two thousand fifteen two thousand sixteen election cycle in that ended up sort of rebounding to his benefit helped him get elected. He then transitioned from that point to this new point about what's going on now during the corona virus crisis so he makes the point now. I fear the history is repeating itself for over a month now. The White House has been holding. Its daily Corona briefings and most networks cable news channels in major news websites have been carrying all or parts of them live as millions of people trapped inside. An anxious of tuned in the briefings are marked by Trump's Oh and misinformation deceptions orig- blaming and boasting takes no responsibility at all for his abysmal. Handling of the crisis while he seems to find another person to blame like a child frantically flinging spaghetti at walled see which one sticks and then he goes on to to quote some of the people who in the media business. Su- have discussed this Ted Koppel. Abc was one of them. Who said you know training a camera on live event and just letting it play out his technology not journalism The question clearly is whether it's status as president of the United States obliges US broadcasts is every breaching live And coppell's answer was no so a couple of things about this first of all private networks. Absolutely have the right to not broadcast the president. In fact I would pretty strongly argued. That's not what they're there for like the C. Span. It's for like you want to see the whole unfettered in performance of some kind of official We have an outlet for that they have their own websites that we have ceased man. There are plenty of places to go see that the news traditionally is for taking the the most important bits delivering them to you Doing all that stuff. So why aren't they doing that? Not send another having a crisis. Because they're all running these these pressures in full and it's it's incredibly obvious what this crisis is Abou it. The crisis is about the fact that trump is using these pressures as defacto campaign appearances. Because he is not able to do that. And everybody's upset about that because for a time period anyway His approval ratings. Were going up as these broadcasts reaching lots lots of households. The average is about ten million a week. So this just makes the precedent currently petty. I think to me because the reason they're putting the stuff on in the first place as nothing ethics or an obligation to put on the present under doing it because it makes money right. Raining does get ratings right and it's not even a lot of ratings you know as as CNN itself pointed out last week Cable News. Viewership is up generally during this time period. So if you think about trump's audience in terms of its ten million overall spread out overall networks. Cnn It's maybe two point one million heading into trump's oppressors and then goes up to two point three two point four then goes back down to two point you after he leaves so they're basically putting these on the air because they want a couple of hundred thousand extra household viewers and that's the reason that it's cheap easy TV. They don't do a lot of production. And so I find this debate. Totally phony right like it's it's all this caterwauling and in radio hands about. Oh we should stop doing this but you know talk to your boss but while you're doing you're doing this for the money you know you're leaving the impression that. Oh we're putting these on because they're news worthy. We're trying to serve the public. It's one thing to if you're doing it when they're announcing the invasion of warming D. or something like that but on a daily basis. You don't have to do this. And they and they did this a lot during that period but in this particular instance it's abundantly clear that what's going on is that there's a tension in within these companies over. Can We? Can we abandon the ratings were? Can we do it? In a way that makes us look less complicit in in helping trump was right that to make the comparison between now and into us into fifteen two thousand sixteen. Why did we put trump on the air summers back? Then because it's cheap ratings right you don't have to do anything you just you. Just put this dude on Air. It and it gets it gets ratings gets eyeballs. You can sell adds to it. And they're doing the same thing now and a now. They're worried about you. Know that is disseminating and say saying delivering misinformation. Well Yeah No I. I agree that they probably shouldn't be doing that but I think it's. It's a little bit harder to make that case to the public and Wh once you've already started doing it like if they elected from the beginning to say okay. Well here's our. Here's our ten minute. Rundown of what what happened in trump's presser today it would look a lot worse than it's GonNa look when they start taking them beer. Because here's here's what it looks like when you trump off the air for arisen. The Bay Jima significant Dan If you take a look at so so trump pulled the sing. I think it was a week ago where he gets everybody in the Presser and he elects to put on this video and the video is basically throwing a bunch of shit in the media's face for having been equally wrong about the. Kobe disaster And he he shows his video and Lo and behold Cnn AND MSNBC both cut into the broadcast immediately and turn it off but what it looks like at the beginning. We have a few clips that we're just GONNA put up with could turn the lights a little bit lower. I think you'll find them interesting. And then we'll answer some questions. I'll ask him questions because you're so guilty but forget it but most importantly we're going to get back onto the reasonable here. Which is the success having okay Please you could put it on our worries for the Americans. Be About Corona virus. Quarterbacks is not gonNA cause a major league we've asked them to accelerate whatever they're doing in terms of a vaccine we are cutting into what is not a White House. Corona virus briefing trump is is trump. Who SAYS WE'RE GONNA should lower the lights? Watch this he points to someone who's not a right winger anti-trump person saying that. You know that the risk of of Caro- of cronies over hyped and the the actual the actual video was more extensive like they cut out in that clip. You don't see all of it like there were a number of clips of people saying You know we're not at the level yet where we have to really worry about this. It's not anything like the flu. Double A. and that's where people's heads were at in late January in mid-february and it was pretty commonplace for people to be even in the media so he starts running these clips and then he then it switches to donald trump. Does you know we stick. Nice of action took decisive action and he start seeing this time line. It's EH rolling time line and it's kind of fun. He points to it going across the screen right. Yeah exactly his decisive action. Because he's washed ninety times whatever and then like boop right away. You know our our pop sentences like we're we're cutting into this because the you know it's not really a grown O'Hara's reaching and MSNBC OF MSNBC and just looked terrible. Look isn't it. Yeah he's such. He's so at a trolling the media on the dams. But we wouldn't be having this problem if they if they hand already cornered themselves if they had already taken the bait of. Gosh let's let's get two and a half million households and just keep them on the air for a couple hours every day and you when we want him to do anything we can get a ton of cornflakes right and they and now they're like. Oh Wow we have to do something about this ethical issue. It's too late once you start playing. It just makes you look. Petty and makes selective and vindictive also assess dangerous combination of constant coverage in constant outrage and the boy cried both. The boy who cried Wolf Blitzer. Yeah I don't know I. I think this is and this is a debate. That's been ongoing. It's going to keep going and it gets worse. Every time they say things like he's using this as an opportunity To replace his campaign appearances. And we don't want to be party to that. Well that's not a reason to not do it like not do it is because you know you're a major news network and you should be doing your own programming. Frankly you know what I mean. You should reporting the news and stuff rather than they should really read. Hate Inc. That's and look at it the way that they need to that they're peddling certain talking points in a very narrow parameter of of debate thank you. Katie. I appreciate all your pin flipping give up. Yeah excellent like I was wait. I hope I thought you'd never do that. No this has been going on for so long. Now that it's just it's just frustrating that we can't get more openness about what that's all about Joe Biden's Fig Newton's God yeah let's put it this way. Donald Trump has this awesome daily massive platform for spreading his Jews on everything and every network is out there in one form or another. So what do we have in the democratic side? What's fact what's Joe Biden's platform so never never say that Joe Biden doesn't have his own great media game So this Joe Biden has a podcast called. Here's the deal with Joe Biden which is so perfect you know. It's so in line with the way he just sits tells these hard truths like in. You're getting your face and tells these hard truths like listen fat Go vote for trump. Whiny VOTE FOR TRUMP. So this he's had a bunch of episodes but this is one from I feel like we'd be remiss if we didn't play this one because I think it's the best one the best clip sure this from so there's a tweet says what. Newton's peanut butter and Jelly sandwiches having common. Listen to this preview of this week's podcast find out and then check out the full episode Artistique Newton's your favorites. Well their favorite. You know why they're small and I can seek you can buy little packs of them. I get him on the on the planes when I fly back and forth and but the thing is the thing that everybody makes fun of me that when in doubt I have a peanut butter jelly sandwich but I learned everybody's making fun of that and I find John. Kerry has the same addiction peanut butter. Jelly Jelly Sandwiches always get my daughter and I enjoyed it when you in Michigan and new shared make Newton Mass. Our our our sound okay. So that's Joe Biden. Talking to Governor Gretchen Whitmer of Michigan and apparently I guess at one point in time. He shared some of his fingers with her. But there's just some kind of weird creepy saying about him talking about peanut butter and Jelly sandwiches and how he likes to sneak them. Snakes the FIG Newton's fake new sorry right. He has a double addiction. I mean to be fair you and I was. I was really asking you about your ice cream eating habits so this is fair game. But it's a little weird that this is the clip that they cut out as like a teaser compelling content. Yeah it's it's it's more like the stuff that you would talk about in a commercial for for fig nunes but it's also finding because it's the episode is Joe Biden Gretchen Whitmer on Cova nineteen response and then that's the title and then the actual content is fig Newton Related Newton related very strange. What else a couple more stone moments this week right? We got some young people for Biden. And then then we'll get a very good biden anti endorsement. So let's let's watch this young people for buying an ad outside standing there my phone you that he's coming out sleep president. Find in our you. I was freaking out like a roar. And then it's like. Oh my gosh you can kind of see him from my fees. It's been my facebook profile picture last four years. It's not a very good picture of me but it is a picture of me with President. Joe Run my lead in Denver all my life so I grew up by the songs the grocery store again coffee on our college campus. I worked at the university and he came walking into my job. Asked questions that will we like to do is really trying to get to know one of us and he could see that family member that you know like a family friend. I just thought I wouldn't call it but like if I knew him. Well enough I live from. I've always loved politics involved in campus organizing since my freshman year all politics six personal when you live it. The reason I'm here today is because I really do. Keep doing your thing. I love this guy. I've got to help them become for sure that video. It was so sad. Because there's so I went to a Bernie Rally in two thousand sixteen at Washington Square Park and I met a woman who had worked in a diner in coffee shop board our in Burlington and she was saying how nice he was and I was like what. What do you mean? She's like Oh he was always like gave a nice tip and he and we we would try to offer them free refills on his coffee. Need always say no and he talked to us and he was very friendly. You know they had like real kind of like examples of Sanders personality and this is just like it literally interests describing someone moving around. Yeah he he walked in and then he turned this way. That's going to be a difference maker with the Youth. Vote four of them listeners. Indira'S MAY REMEMBER. We had another very good. Pr Ad put out by. Oh my God. This was back in the day when without buying a new chance but a bunch of by volunteers tried to come up with twenty three reasons why they like Biden and they couldn't even come up with twenty three separate ones. They had to repeat some of them. Were we climate? I know you even said that you liked by that you were going to vote for him kind of joking way wrote what if that pushed him over the edge and the primaries of wasn't Obama wasn't it was Matt Barnes All. My phone didn't get an interesting anti endorsement Allie dead. Yeah let's say So I was actually tweeting. We were asking people for their their questions. You Know Fan People Fan fans of the show for the questions. I think that's how it came up. And somehow someone shared this thing that I did not know about which is that There was a report that bin Laden said Biden was unprepared to be President before his death. Osama bin Laden and wanted to kill President Obama in part because he thought Vice President Joe Biden was quote unquote unprepared to serve as president according to newly declassified documents I reviewed by the Washington Post the Al Qaeda leader explained the rationale for targeting aircraft carrying Mr Obama. And Gentlemen exactly. Bin Laden said the reason for concentrating on them as in betray. Us and Obama is that Obama the head of infidelity killing him automatically will make vice-president Biden and take over the presidency right in this totally unprepared for that post which will lead the US into a crisis is there. Is there video I've been ranting and raving Web Biden? Yeah I mean that would be Just trump would actually go there with the video. Oh you mean has trump turned this into a campaign ad yet? No I'm Osama bin Laden and I approve this message. I mean it's almost to be fair. It is almost an endorsement right. Because if you will you could go either way either. You could say Biden is so bad and so unprepared. That Osama bin Laden enemy of America didn't even think it was worth taking him out or you could say well look assigned. A Biden has been smeared by the likes of Osama bin Laden. So that's good blurb for me yeah I choose to look at the the the former way we gotta hit the Biden versus trump quiz. Every ONE ALEXA SEE. Katya night competing. Katie takes this way too seriously for me. It's just the game so matt doesn't have a competitive bonus body so dan when we got. Here's the first one quote will with these two folks that you're about to meet if you haven't already. There's no doubt about them. Staying oiled and lubricated here ladies and gentlemen there's No Doubt About An staying oiled and lubricated here binding. Yeah I'm going to say Biden too. It's bad and all right. I'm betting on your bets. Kitty yeah go all right. Here's another one quote. We hold these truths to be self evident all men and women are created by the you know the thing that one biden. Yeah this is a good one quote. My whole life has been heat. I like he in a certain way he'd under certain way. I would say trump and the Matt Taibbi part of me would say Biden. But I'M GONNA stick to the Katie Helper Way and say trump trump trump. Wow we're we're in sync when more quote all probably will do it. Maybe definitely I'll probably will do it. Maybe definitely yes even Katie trump say biden trump. All right one more one more. What you're telling me we have to go spend money to keep them from going bankrupt. The answer is yes. That's what I'm telling you Biden Button yet. But I didn't even know that for sure I got the bye-bye from him down one wine All right well. That was the disappointing and I think not representative very gratifying a round. Yeah so but All right very good very good. Good Job Katie down. I'll give credit where credit is due. I better by you better better bide our than I do. But we have a great conversation to go to somebody who have already had in the show Senator Nina Turner in a lot is happening between now and then We WanNa talk to her about allow things including the future of the movement that she was such an integral part of so. It's GonNa be really interesting conversation or it's a hang in there and we'll let let's talk to Senator Turner and and we'll we'll see how that goes. Welcome Senator Nina Turner It's been a little while since we talk to you. Lot Lot of stuff has happened in the interim one of the reasons we wanted to have you on A. You're you're a figure that excites so much enthusiasm among people who were behind the Bernie Sanders Movement. But there's a lot of anxiety and despair Among that segment of the population right now. Can you lay out for for folks? Why they shouldn't be depressed. Going forward about the future of the movement that you are such a big part of and where do you go from here apart from just Taking part in this next election and thank you so much for that Matt and Katie is the pleasure to be back with you. Guys will be replaced extraordinary. Merck Fair in. It is very much appreciated. I believe when history is written. You guys are going to be among the progressives who have a network using your your Hash. Say to really shake things up. Make sure that people are informed across the board as far as what is what people should not be. It's okay to have a moment of grief. I want to acknowledge that sadness heaviness. Don't WanNA glop over that. Because we know that in twenty sixteen people did make Bernie rats in particular the Progressive Left by extension. Really feel bad about having grief in mourning sad so I want to acknowledge that straight up. I noticed it in two thousand sixteen. I am here as leader in his movement to acknowledge it right now. Where do where do we go from? Here is not a but because the very human a most intimate feels some type of way about what just happened. In twenty twenty and then on top of the pen demi which is really sucking so much energy from people just the total unknown. So either you're impacted. All of us are impacted either directly or indirectly by this pandemic in surgery was happening in a college is not make it any easier so I wanNA pause for minutes. I acknowledge it and I get it and though we have to plan for the future and so we must find promise in the problem. The same issues or bagging proposition. If you will or vision that the progressive left was fighting for is still true. Today it was true two weeks ago two months ago two years ago or years ago it is true today that we still need Medicare for all we especially get that right now that we need universal health care as we approach what twenty million people who have lost their jobs and still counting. We know very clearly that healthcare should not be attached to a job. We still need college for all. We still need a great deal. All of those things and guess what we made history. We don't cause enough to just bat and this movement is Young. We're just getting started is twenty-first-century. John and so we must continue to organize the progressive left. Must be more agile than we've ever been. We're not agile during this twenty twenty presidential election. We must analyse Muslim postmortem about what happened. In twenty twenty presidential election and use the lessons learned to you US moving forward a we cannot. Don't we can have our hands now. We have been successful because all of the issues that we animated starting in two thousand fifteen with Senator Sanders I residential roof. Change the body politics in this country. Not Just Democrats but the entire country so we need to take stock in that. And build on what? What do you mean by being agile? What does that agility look like? And where did you see this lack of agility? I saw Katie when the courtrooms whole Around one candidate. They did a very quickly. They saw the success in Iowa. We saw the success in New Hampshire. Nevada blew it out the water and they were very clear that had we had that same type of success or even just even a smaller gap between Senator Sanders Vice President Biden that it would have been over and so they calculated that and they responded very quickly where you had the the third place candidate being the budget and place candidate the incident a cloture coalesce around the second place candidate at that time which was President Biden and everybody in between from Beethoven and others who call so quickly. I don't think anything like that. In American history has been done and the progressive left did not have an answer for that and also we didn't really have a lot of time between South Carolina Bam right so they didn't really see us coming in two thousand sixteen. Think about that. We won thirteen million votes twenty two contests they didn't see but they actually or twenty and so we as aggressive sometimes get so caught up on being right on the issues of having righteous indignation that we failed to understand that this is not just about who has the best ideas for humanity which we do ninety. Nine percent of our ideas are the best and the right idea. Let's go on the record and say that. Yeah but this this is about power it is about has it and how they wielded so we have to train to win the cease that have the power that will make the change that we need to act as quickly as corporate act. Well that was. The question is GonNa add so just in terms of concrete How'd you how'd you get power in America? How do you? How do you win in an Electoral System? That we have. You fixed a lot of the problems. The overcame a lot of the obstacles. That that you are looking at two thousand sixteen the money issue. I think Bernie's this time around proves that you can actually raising an enormous amount of money doing the kind of campaign that you that you ran The media didn't have that wasn't as big of an obstacle as as it might have been a in other words. Despite the fact that they were almost the Corp Press was almost universally against Sanders It didn't affect people as much as it as it could have. But what's the next step like next time around when you when you run? What what concretely. Can you do to offset some of those issues? I mean you have to do you have to plan better in certain communities you have to knock and more doors. Do you have to develop an alternative news network like what are what are some things that that might? You might think you named it. All you just nailed it absolutely independent networks which he who occupy the space that you and Katie occupy along with others like Tim. Black in Kyle and might get in trouble. Because I'm not naming everybody off. Forgive me but all in progressive of folks out there that are using their either youtube channels or whatever they're using the podcast to get out alternative media yes. There should be some coming together of aggressive out progressive outlets like back to talk about. Do you form a network. That's one thing that can be done and also met. You hit the no one hitting the starting earlier. Twenty twenty four coming. We know this. We had twenty two thousand four a that. Yeah Finance Right. Here is a announced right here. That might be when you so but we know twenty. Twenty four is coming. We need the plan right now. We need progressive organizations in also progressive. Digital's to come together and form some type of Pat P. Act with one another about what we fully expected what we're GonNa Fight Book and you don't have to lose your organization's individual autonomy to say that the progress of love is going to come together. Put together some issues that we can stand strong on and be out in the community and being out into the community is going to change because of the virus so we gotta be Berry Bulworth thinking about what community and coming together. Looks like and keeping them honest so many of our sisters and brothers don't have as I traveled the country. I recognize that a lot of folks have access to Internet. You know when you go into the rural community both black rule in South Carolina white rule places like Iowa. That is a problem that we are going to have to solve just Levin as a nation if it should be no places where people can get next to the body and those of us who are urban areas we really take or Greenwich and as many roles is I traveled down in trying to find the right spot to get a connection so we are going to have to redefine what getting out in the streets. Actually me he's going to be a combination and we are depending more and more on social media on the Internet. Be Able to bring community together. There's no risk visit of implant. In the day. After senator suspended his campaign and is not too late to do that. We need to do that right now. The virus has had an interesting impact on or could on this movement. Couldn't it I mean it's it's it seems to be pushing people in directions to think about things in ways that they've never thought about them before right clearly. The employer based healthcare system has been a total catastrophe. People ARE GONNA. They're gonNA have to rethink that almost out of necessity for pretty soon It what is there. We need universal health. Care Right now. I'm really over. I mean people are literally dying. I know I'm old enough to remember. I don't know if you are not to remember when Governor Sarah Palin was talking about death panels just plugging. Aca At nothing was further from the truth right now. Israel literally dying if they're not physically dying. They're losing their livelihood. One of the greatest expenses that individuals in family have is their healthcare costs yet. We got both playing games in Congress. See let's not play with this we. We don't have to wait to swear in the next president. United States of America. To actually everybody on Medicare Medicaid Medicare right. Now let's go now during the pandemic. Let's see if this works. I'm sure that the people who you remember. I'm old enough to remember on the debate stage. He goes they don't have Medicare for all choose or let's not forget about all of the healthcare to people who are on their jobs. They don't want to lose a guess what they don't have a job as a healthcare and it is cruel and Il Moro for that Congress be they Democrat or Republican to stand up uncritically. Say Right now in. This moment will give the people what they need. Instead of constantly given the billionaire class what they need see this predatory capitalism alice cap you know some people are GonNa get debate the merits or lack of capitalism. Not here to do that tonight. With there is a predatory nature type of capitalism that we have in this country right now and so it ought to be done about it and that Congress has the power right now. I mean if I could do any more people to be free thinkers this okay you free. We are free thinker and understand that even in the midst of a damn pending that those folks in Congress who all recess right now go figure. How the hell do you go? He says when people are dying and if they can figure out to continue to put any stimulus packages more and more money to give the big business wing. Meanwhile mainstream people are dying are essential workers. You know I was blessed enough to go to a grocery store just you know just a little while ago and to see all the grocery store workers which clear mass over there over milk lasted blue plates over their faces that match and then risking their lives every single day so that we can go to the grocery store. You mean to tell me that we cannot make sorted garbage workers. The big store clerks. Everybody is on the line. They deserve hazard pain. And we deserved Medicare for all right now and you know what? Democrats that have gone on and do in house. Let's do this the sense knowing to the city. Let's let's do them all over the refuse. Act. I mean I don't understand why so with with the package that cares. Act IT for on the financial side. It's radical it's sweeping and it's radical. They just threw two trillion dollars. It's really six trillion dollars when you get into how much they can lever up the money and the Fed and everything and they basically said this is an extraordinary situation. It's force majeure we have to. We have to just prop up all the financial markets. We're GONNA we're going to completely rethink how we do business. Let's not worry about real prices or any of those things but when it comes to health care they just it's like a classic Democratic Party thinking like let's I think caused right. Yeah they they just have to make it complicated and they can't. I just don't understand what you're what you're saying makes a lot more sense. Why not just say for the moment We're in the middle of this thing is everybody just goes on. Medicare for now. Just do they can do that. I want your listeners. I will people. Were watching us to know they can do that. Both can work. The next president is horny right now Bingo Michigan. We can't just take the break or be gearing up for twenty twenty four right like just every four years that we have to give ship as opposed to giving a shit later got liberated in your new role kind of as I guess you were this. You know you're part of a campaign and a very integral part of it and very you know one of the faces of this campaign it. I'm sure as you were saying. There's a sadness but do you also feel this new kind of freedom in how you can be and speak now that you really miss words before? Let's be honest but Yeah what is there a difference for you? Now you no. I'm saying like what you're saying. Katie I understand politics in when you are at the service of somebody who has their name on the ballot. That's exactly what you do. So yes. There does come an extra level of freedom for being in this phase of my leadership journey. And I'm really excited about a black girl magic to the one hundred degree but it's not happening. I think I I heard you on breakfast. Club does saying that there was a task force. That's already out out of the picture right. The Biden campaign has already made it clear that you're not going to have that kind of role with them. Yeah man you know. That's their choice moving on. I'm with the people and when you're on something like that you gotTa play the game. I'm not willing to play the game right right. Well admitted It makes perfect sense but yet the fact they telling your recipes are listening to this and they're getting picking up on Matt. That's something I think you know. So Angela Yee on the breakfast club. She really picked up on that. If you've listened to wait a minute they don't want it. You know it's okay. It's okay but it's not great. I really like I really appreciated how before you said it's okay to be sad and you don't want to kind of Gloss over that and you you refer to how much how mean-spirited a lot of the response to to losing is And given that we're having spend Democ what and you're a motivational speaker also What is your idea of Personal Political Pep? Talk or advice you have. How can people be both taking care of their own like sanity mental health and also be engaging in you know changing the oil? Basically there is promising. The problem and I wanted to draw upon history that we have been here before as humanity. We've been here before there have been crises like this before and we are going to come. It is our so yes. You have to do self care practice all of that. Do the right thing distancing. Meditation whatever you as an individual can do to find solace within self because you do have to believe in your heart that better days coming and. I'm here to tell you that a better day is coming. We are going to experience pain. No doubt as the loss node out of better days are coming and then draw upon those for me. It's the ancestors guys are quote my grandmother. Latch it's my African American heritage. That draw palm for somebody else. It might be something but I think on these things over things that are good they on these things. Whatever you have to do to center yourself to know that no matter what you're going through things are going to get better and then beyond back join something. Don't sit idly by you know I was. I was talking to Reverend Jackson Jesse Jackson a few weeks ago and he was saying. He said. I'm paraphrasing. He said there dark days. A lot of great things can happen in the dark. You could be you could still right. You can still dream. What do you see the world looking like beyond this? There's a proper said that one was never build their shield on the battlefield will issue building time right now. Though in those moments we probably have more moments with ourselves. Now read a little bit than we ever have a very long time. The world is as you dream it. What kinds of things you could do anything in the world right now? Anything you'll community doesn't need not be big as the world but if you could do anything outside of your survival which is number one. What would be beautiful? Aim think about those things and they'd start to plan or those things will not always be here. I've used the Great Depression. You know as one very good example. How even we know ultimately World War One. I mean excuse me what we're seeing data out of their ultimately but some good things came out of that tragic situation so secure unemployment rate. We didn't have those things pre the Great Depression. And so what are the things spoke? Structurally community wise and individually that you want to see different and change permanently. Pulse the corona virus or lease posts getting through these first critical in deadly stages of this virus using the unemployment. For example. We know that through the efforts of Senator Sanders in those that unemployment insurance now expands to Gig Workers Independent Contractors. That's a plus because or this it didn't so now we can't go back to the way that it was. I'm just using these examples so there are global things that we need to demand. And what do communal phase and then also individually so. There is promise in the problem but we have to do the work. That work may look differently in the shadow of corona. But still we have the power powerless. We are powerful and we need to use that power Galvani's next to be in the words of Mahatma Gandhi. The cheese that we want to seek in the world. We've been here before we will get the rules. Were you surprised? Disturbed brokenhearted as much as I was about the way the dams pushed through those elections in Florida. Illinois Wisconsin. We'd seen some reports about whole workers dying I said this a lot on the show but to me. I mean I'm someone who often thinks that the DEM's Republicans are way too similar. But I kind of didn't think I didn't make I was my. I didn't think that Tom Perez and Simone Sanders would say and do the things that they did in terms of trying to get people out there to vote. I thought that like the damage from the Science Party More than Republicans and to be. That was just really rude. Awakening your thoughts on that. He was saddened by that. And I I'm going to hire win. Our primary was march seventeenth than I gotTA give it. So yeah got to give it to. Yeah he did what was necessary to put a stop to this election. Not Stop to the election but to delay on. Yeah Delay. Let me or as we and to make sure that we have vote by mail. Through April Twenty eight is unfortunate that a legislature do not believe in that it was he wanted it to go through June and but the legislature pushed it back to your initial point. Yeah it was very saddened by that and I have had the opportunity. Our viewers opportunity talk to the chairman of the Democratic Party Risks and I did express my concerns just as you laid those out. Haiti made it clear that the Democrat. They're only to the two major parties in this country. Right now we need one what it'd nice if we had to. We need one of those actually shit right to play games like that and Kinda heads on that just for the sake of election. Putting people's lives at risk it was not a good look chairman. Share with me. The file lawsuits in Wisconsin. And everything in one. I was glad to see. Finally they came to that but at the beginning it was very clear that it was a lot of hedging going on and Teleki Voting safe to go out and vote and we know that they unlock it. Was it was wrong so we have to be the ones. The Democrats need to be the ones that are standing up for the people say. Hey vote by mail. Strengthen vote by mail. Let's strengthen the levers to ensure that people both have the opportunity to vote with they do safely Poll workers in danger. We can look at Milwaukee as one of the most rotten examples but Alex. Let me go back tomorrow. Because I'm not letting those Democrats off the hook heck governors and Michigan. Hello Somebody Democratic Governors in Illinois. Right flat out. 'cause it's easy for me. I mean I can roll right on top of these Republicans. They make it so easy but when pressed do stuff like that we got a call out hypocrisy and they put the lives of their citizens in danger. Yes they did. You heard it from me. They did it in the wrong thing. Now let's fast forward to to Wisconsin and we know the Milwaukee by way of example Democratic governor. I'm told by the chairman. He had worked hard to try to get the Republicans to do the right thing and I'm glad to hear that part of the store. Sometimes we only know what side of the story. I will say that. The Republicans persisted right. What they endanger. And then we look at Milwaukee is one example where they went from one hundred and eight colon places. Yeah what the hell you know. It just doesn't make sense so come out Democratic Party because the Republicans do what they do best which right we already. That's not surprising right. Yeah and Pritzker in from Illinois put a stay at home order just a couple of days after he said it was safe to vote and we got called down. It's all calling it. Because in order for people to trust us into believes he started. This stuff should be partisan. Wrap it in this moment. We not exaggerating. This really is about real life and death here. Partisan issue the life issue but it is unfortunate in this climate in especially in the age of Donald trump that the partisanship is so they even have double side has a better idea or good. I dig into my brother. Used to say a wrong clock is right today. We still resisted because it came from the other side in absolutely makes no sense whatsoever and we cannot tolerate it. So I'm saying to my sisters and brothers not as a Democrat but as a three games human being that I need you to look at situations and not wait about whether or not. It was a Republican or Democrat. But let's wait about whether it was right or wrong. She doesn't have the wine. The Republic acting need the right thing and the governors of Michigan and the governors of Illinois. Both Democrats did wrong. Damn Thing Omar. Seventeen the choices. They chose the wrong choice. Let's call it. What did he can go back to fighting the Partisans Bible when I doubt this is that state we got out when people play again and author. How are you going to beat the Republicans? If we're doing letting off people die also for for short term gain less cushion for me. Is there anything strategically terms of winning in November? That's not being done right now. That should that should be done. I mean I get the feeling that they're gonNA roll with almost exactly the same strategy. They went with in two thousand sixteen. Which is the focus really heavily on Donald Trump's negatives make his statements centerpiece of a lot of campaign messaging I didn't really work last time. L. A. Doesn't feel like to me. What do you think the the the message should be? What should what should the strategy be If you're trying to be trump going forward this amp revision owes of us. Who Know that president. Donald TRUMP is dangerous. And he's a food. He's a megalomaniac we get that. If you are not a trump you you get that but this pandemic is really showing the jurors within a system that was rigged all along and now Bill Lujan is gone. We can pretend that. Don't know that various central workers who are on the front line haggled about whether or not we should give some of them a fifteen dollars an hour minimum wage. Come on somebody we. We play games with that. We'd on using we very loosely. Because it wasn't us but it was other folks. We now know that the essential workers don't have essentially what they need in my conversation with. Reverend Barber the exact words he spoke. They don't have essentially what they need which is paid medical. Leave pay family leave. Many of them don't have good healthcare so in the face of those of us who already made up our minds that President Donald J trump is the worst president in modern history must be defeated. What are we going to offer the people beyond that? That's why I said he's a prohibition that the Progressive Left has to be given more than circuits right if they want to win the boat and I am just somebody that believes that you ought to win arm the boat and not that the boat just given to you that the onus is somebody that whose name has been on the ballot in one races and those but I've won races you every every time you run. Joe Jr is my job is. The person has run his job to convince you. Katie to convince you and I'm worthy of your golden not the other way around so let's only and put that out there for the record so vision. What is the vision? How are the material conditions for the people who are suffering the most to be different but the African American community As dying at higher rates in our numbers in the population because of this virus again revealing the racism and anti blackness that is embedded in this system from the beginning. Some of my folks and my folks in terms of African Americans this pandemic we have been independent. People have been living through. GimME THE ENTIRE TIME. But now that it is impacting. Everybody that's not cool ourselves. Delude ourselves if you are native American if you elect an ex if you are poor in the country all walks a lot who get who really gives a shit about you so we need Beijing and provisions so beyond Mat beyond saying that trump is rotten to the core. What is the vision? And then from that busy what kind of provisions are going to be made a main street poor people? I mean poor people the working poor in the barely middle class. How Universal Child Care for one you know. Come on some by how `Bout Kesslers Student Day. How about Medicare for all? How about a green you? D how criminal justice reform over forming a legal system that has never been just as the inception of this country. You know right here. My whole state inmates are dining and a majority of those inmates who are dying are black and Brown and pool. So what are we going to do? Business and Crow Vision on top of saying that. Donald Trump is the worst president in modern history. Because it you write. It didn't work twenty sixteen and we got to compete against the pandemic this time. So what's GonNa make folks come out to think that anything is going to be different for them this time route? We're going to have to work even harder to get people to participate and when they believe that there's really no difference between both parties or that there's only a difference when his political Expediency Eight. Komo anything else you WANNA share. You WanNa lay people with tell us about what's next for you what you want to tell our listeners to do anything. I want people to stay to. The Turner is in full of Fat. T. Whatever yes yeah. I am in full of stay tuned. I got some surprises coming. Really really so be focused. Be About love. If you got Elvis and you lie check on them take care of yourself. I know that when we're flying on the plane with today's avid. Ask them down. Put It on you before you can help. The next person know that there will be brighter days. There's a song in the African American Christian tradition. That was sung by the wind. Has Family. Ain't no need to worry. What the night is gone agreed. Be All over the moon. Now it may take a long time for us to get to mourn. Rap may take months to get to mourn. And we're GONNA get bit a baby and what is going to be different about two as an individual when we get there. How're is in your his. Do not feel powerless. All right feel heaviness is all right to bill grief. Look don't feel let's be motivated. Not by fear of ours is hello somebody so that's great so I'm so glad you came on because Ka Katie. When she found out news Campaign being suspended was so down. The show was going to be canceled. Frankly live we were talking. I saw pop up on my laptop that someone was like. Why Bernie Drop out and I was like Did Bernie Drop Abbas terrible co host for that entire show? I was just like so. You've lifted her. Spirits lifted both of our spirits. Thank you so much for coming on really appreciate it and and good luck and and drop the surprise on the show. I will thank you all. Thank you both for what you do in this space. We need you you our beloved and I know people bump up against you baby just bumped back. Excellent thank you senator. That was great. See I thought that would be a mood. Enhancer for you. I'm smiling and your smile. You look much improved. Yeah I wasn't like terrible after the Bernie thing I wanted to ask her but That point that you made about the media being hard on him as last summer not getting away as much. I don't know how you measure that but I keep thinking about this issue of like blame versus effect because I feel like you and I and David Rees last week there was this Van. Diagram where like I thought I was as usual. I saw Bernie as like as wrong while also knowledgeable as people know how annoyed I was about his treatment of violating. Tonight's but I see Bernie as wronged and he you know and I feel bad for him and I met other people and then you kind of saw him as not as like wrong but at his own. It was his own fault. It was on him to go no. I don't think it's his own fault but it. It's it's on you if you're running for office you gotta you gotta gotTa overcome. Yeah that's the same thing as fault kind of this. This is a discussion that has popped up on social media When I say that Bernie had to overcome that people get all upset. Like I'm saying you know like the like what they want you to say is he had no chance because the media was stacked one hundred percent against the well of course they were stacked one hundred percent against them. I mean you know he's trying to disenfranchise. Yeah exactly so you gotta overcome that. And that's that's a possibility trump. Did it you know I mean I hate to bring up that example but But but yeah and I think she would have had some interesting things to say about what they could have done internally. But we'll get we'll get to that. We'll have rebecca on so but she's great she's always forward thinking and I think she's you know her point about it. Being a young movement is interesting because the the conventional wisdom about the Bernie thing when they're when they're talking about him being old. They're also talking about his ideas being old like they're they're essentially saying that he is. He's an aging kind of marks inspired. Fdr. I it's right who hasn't really grown. But the people who are in his movement come from a completely different generation in the end even though they the the sensibilities are still drawn from some of those same intellectual places. It's a new movement. You know what I mean like. It's it's not. This isn't like nine thousand nine hundred fifties socialism. This is something new and she's right. It's on the ground floor or thirties or thirties. Yeah exactly yeah. So that's a good point and you know. Hopefully she's right. In Twenty twenty four burn is going to have a really different approach right when he when he was one hundred eleven years. Deny like some weird like future. Counterfactual future revisionists. Well thanks for listening to you. For watching it Rada subscribed by our merch in enormous quantities. What else are you going to do with your money? Seriously you know. Spend it on us and then In terms of positive America. Now I'M GONNA I'M GONNA go the other way again. Because if they had Bernie on. That's just that's unacceptable to me. They they've got a everybody's gotta be punished now so I'm back I'm back in Vendetta Anyway. All Right. That was great Katie thank you so much stay safe and I will see you next week and thanks everybody for tuning in woke him.

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Say My prayers and do my daily affirmations. I just of like. Reset my mind, but I won't go on Fridays. Lot of new music that comes out is always a great morning when you get to hear somebody A. Favorite your favorite artists bitten you favorite artist this era spitting like, oh venue the butcher put out a record with little little snapping on their big Sean Big Sean snapping on giving Connie some bars. Reasons. New Album. And he's got a feature from rhapsody on there. You know I love rhapsody. So yeah, today. Good Morning. All right. I'll listen to the minute that stuff he acts last night yesterday shout my son in his school. They had football game last night. He did pretty good. He scored a touchdown I. Think he ran for fifty seven yards. So he did pretty good. I was excited about that kids tackling. Yeah Okay Yeti test kids before they play in an they've been good so far no no corona signs and then when I got home I got home and you know we do my normal routine. I don't have a nanny now on any went back to Ecuador. So we've been holding down the Fort so everything me and my wife, do we take turns one day? She does the. The cooking and cleaning, and then I do the kids homework with the kids in the last night. My daughter had homework, right so I thought I did it with her right at explained it right and my wife was like me go with his homework which you Only got fifty percent man no. Dummy it was bad but then I put it on Instagram let me see I put the problem on instagram that I got wrong. And I put it in my story and I would say about sixty percent of the people. Got It. Wrong. What is because a lot of that stuff? They teach us in Grade School? We use you know once you get out in the real world Mr Trump did a madison let's forget about it. It's almost like muscle memory. So to speak problems kids school just muscle memory goodness. Gracious. When not what I thought it was right and if it would went to school today with that homer, it would have been wrong and it would have been little crazy because I had to sign it. It would have been all bad but none of y'all. As good as I was because y'all had sixty. Had IT wrong? Shouldn't be doing homework. was helping now that's the problem with school. nope. You aren't helping you clearly doing her homework I was helping dad explain I was trying to explain see that's why he just did the pre K.. Colored in the lines parents don't help Daiki parents be busy parents do homework just sitting and send the kids to bed. Okay and move on about the night. All right when my daughter comes to me with her homework ask you that's what I said. It did but it was my day and I wanna be I wanna be like I do this I got this. Man Listen My, and my daughter I. Guess she didn't believe her because she asked mom because she she could've just put it in her folded now is it but she asked mom, which was a great. The best thing to do in It was all best always good to double check with mom. Always great to double check with mom. All right. Well, let's get the show cracking night. Why? Do. We have anything good this morning WELP senator Nina Turner is going to be hey, this morning right Senate Anita turn she's she's gotta she's got an a podcast on the black effect podcast network called hello somebody and a new episode dropped yesterday. So be here to talk about that plus a whole lot of other things because we are twenty or twenty five days away from the election s in Benjamin crump's can be second in attorney Benjamin crump, an attorney Benjamin crump checking in this morning as well been is A. Historic lawsuit. Enough people are not talking about what he like four, hundred, four, hundred, plus million dollars. Wanted to. Yeah I'll let them talk about it. Oh, shoot none. We'll get into that next and then we got front page news would say about your present he thinks he has just a little bit of Rhone in just a little bit just a tick. More of a reflection of American people want to. His we'll talk about it a Ticha road and we'll talk about it when we come back as the breakfast more. Warning everybody is Dj Envy Angela Shall I mean the guy? We are the breakfast club let's getting some front page news. The last night Thursday night football. Oh, I'll be forgetting for all night Tampa Bay buccaneers lost to the Chicago bears. Twenty nineteen. All right now tonight game five heat versus the Lakers that happens at nine PM ALP that Miami. Heat is series and I hope I'm what's the guy named? Tyrone Hetero tally here. Hero. Tyler Hetero had the great game. What's his name title hero the hero the hero you know when Guy Vena Chuck up here before Corona Varzi he had a little basketball cards not able to Tyler Herro rookie card in there. Correct you got it or I got it could we left those cards in here? I was going through the deck yesterday and I was like, oh Yes. Sir. And saving that putting any glass, you never know never know. All right. Well, let's talk about your President Dan to Donald Trump. Now he had some words comma. Harris. He's not mentally capable of being president. You know that everybody knows that and this monster that was on stage with the Mike Pence who destroyed her last night by the way but there's monster. She says no no, it won't be fracking there won't be there. So what? ally. Bombs for Senate aecom ahead. This is my problem right this. Is What I was saying yesterday we have to. I want I want her to show up as our full self. The reason I want her to show her as our full self is because it don't matter what she does on that stage still label her negative things right? They still able her angry they gonNA label her the march she was. Showing restraint done by the Carter straight respect was. Following the rules and he's still called a monsoon as you might as well show up and show out. Playing, safe. Now, also, he talked about a virtual debate. I think I'm going to try doing a rally on Saturday night if we can. We have enough time to put it together but we want to do a rally in Clar probably in Florida on Saturday night. Come back and do one in Pennsylvania in the following night, and it's incredible. What's going on I? Feel so good have you had a test since your diagnosis a week ago? Well, what we're doing is probably the test will be tomorrow the actual test because there's no reason to test all the time, but they found very little infection or virus. If any you got caught up. Just a little bit of you can't be. How you have to social distance and then and then you say, you want to do a rally Saturday and maybe one in Florida WanNa Pennsylvania, it's only been eleven days as a Saturday I'm not told me if you gotTa Quarantine Fourteen Days Right, I'm not even mad at trump I'm mad at the people around him his. Bro A. Mad at the people who would go to that rally in a mad at the people who know that this he has corona vise, but they still allow him just to walk around amongst people. Could you imagine having corona? got. A. Little Bit in my sister imagine if you've got a STD writing this and a little bit in my local media. They'll syphilis girl you clean is a little. Bit What? Donald trump is more of a reflection of American and y'all want to. Like a lot of Y'all act like trump not just wipe you believe. Okay. Trump says anything does anything he's arrogant. He doesn't care about the truth you just said what's entertaining and he the code people that eat it up. And that's literally how you act on social media with folks literally my goodness now. When talking to Hannity you can also hear him a losing his voice and coughing he sounds a little left up. Well, I didn't even want to him. You know last time I had a big problem the oscillated Mike's when I had to win debate three debates with Hillary and Or I think the first debate. The first debate they. Did the Mike but I will say this absentee is okay. because. She ballads. Lord have mercy. Audio, right? No, we didn't touch that audio. Had Audio Sound Donald Trump to date. Low Day. This low to me like Donald Trump just a little. Little Day Lewis. Low Low low low lola. Da Is Love Mercy Goodness Gracious Right and that is your front page news. 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Governor was of Britain by the crazy on US group extremely command. Gretchen whitmer. That's great because he was speaking out against white supremacy and they were trying to kidnap her. So, how is it? Our president is not GonNa be has he responsibility towards that when it is tables his name? Is Rally people to do the that they are doing right because he's hoping for he's hoping for people that have you know he's hoping for violence and he's hoping for those types of things that he wants. He wants to be feared him. Especially, the Democrats be held accountable wealth of this situation isn't so far out of here you want a big tree. Let's talk about. How they're not sleeping in our country. And how it was thirteen people not being labeled God damn. Terrorist. I ever seen and Let you to let some Muslim extremist city will plotting to kidnap elected official in America Lord Have Mercy Hello. Hello. WHO's this? Chest. So I've been laid off you know our. promos. Of Behind on. Nov.. 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The radio talking to millions of people and you can hear him Oh. Sorry. Yeah. You should call the radio. Crazy guy. But now I would just I think your. Mother and your child would be more understanding than your job sadly, and you know just like I said the baby something and then when you get some free time and during the day, just shoot over there even if it's just for our or something. I don't beat yourself up too bad man. All right Bro. What? We. Just talked coughing now man. I'm need to save you money to buy a new phone still getting for your child's Lord have mercy. Get it off your chest eight, hundred, five, eight, five, one, five, one. If you need to vent, you hit us up anytime now when we come back, we gotTa Talk Our girl Ebony K Williams happened happening two more TV life. It will explain when we come back as the breakfast club good morning the breakfast club. Warning everybody got did put your Michael on why you might sound like that. Then you have my mouth on there you go. Now now you might your mouse or Morning everybody is DJ. Envy Angela Gisha Nagai. We are the breakfast club. Let's get to the is let's talk real housewives of New York, lifted. The rumor report. Ends in the. BRECCA's. Right it sounds a little crazy but apt thirteen years of being on. Air New. York City is making a little history. They have finally casted their first black cast member, an his Ebony K Williams these companies and these networks and these TV shows they should be ashamed. To be announcing the first black anything and two thousand and twenty I I would say better late than never. But no, I'm not gonNA, applaud you for for doing what you should be doing the Guy Dan real housewives of New York New York. City, you think there's no black people in. House. Clues Bombs Avenue K. Williams. I can't wait is a lot of you know I watch with my wife does a lot of caddy women on real housewives of New York and I'm just going to tell you ladies do not F- With Ebony K on ANA. We don't play about avenue came. She's an attorney and she will cut you up and that with L. A. Weapon with her mouth, she gets busy telling you right now anything that happens on that show inside would have been absolutely. Right now. Everybody on that show. No everyone. Okay. Calf production everybody anything happens on that show I'm side would have any cable Williams. girly to likely. That's that's. As, well as crazy national league is drunk and goes crazy. Shot the and we we're launching Williams Court podcast October twenty first on the black affect who iheartradio. Yes she'll be on their breaking down your favorite legal cases. Yes. She can illegal cases. Tori lanes good segue Terry Lanes is charged with felony. In the mega stallion shooting. Now he's been charged in connection with the shooting Now, this is just weeks ago the La County hit him with one count of assault with the semi automatic firearm and one count of carrying a loaded unregistered firearm in a vehicle now. Did he can face up to twenty two years and eight months in prison. I wonder if police were investigating this whole time, are I wonder if social media chatter and the album Tori dropped at cause more social media chatter led to the these charges and toy was facing all these charges. Why wouldn't he just talk to the police are doing interview like you can't say you're not going to speak about it but didn't do a whole hour about it. Correct. You know what I mean. And I'm so glad I'm married and unfaithful because. Tori lanes is making it to where women over five nine. Me Never look at brothers five six and showing every. Night even looking in in young young short men's direct about telling you. How does it feel to be a little man in that situation show I never fell short in my life I didn't realize I was short until. I became an adult. And I still don't feel sure when I walk in a room. All right. But I'm just saying that I guess I can see where women will five nine would never look at men five, six ninety ever again because it is situation, right? What what happens from here? I mean I guess he has to go to court and I guess he has to tell us side. He's saying that he didn't shoot her. He seen that he wasn't. He had no involvement and I guess we'll see what happens I read the police report and has said that he it said a shot he's accused of shooting at her feet. In wounding a female friend that's what he said in the police put correct. So I guess we'll get more information now they also said making this time I was walking in the opposite direction or something like that. So maybe she didn't see a says she got back in a car I don't know what I have no idea. I don't know well is charged with felony assault and he faces up to twenty two years and eight months in prison is he being deported? Can't. Be. Convicted convicted I because. I, you might not never go to court alright Gary. Yeah. Toronto will have to distance ourselves from y'all until all the screen and. Screened out, Toronto was slow ninety, two five. We will have to distance yourself from your. Starting. This Monday. At seven. o'clock lasted until he's great until y'all screaming this out. Okay. Now, some sad news man. Sad sad sad set. Kirk Oh bangs Texas rapper he. Talks about the death of his son. Nelson looks so damn young looks less than. A year old maybe two years lately less than two years old. He fly big man we love you so much. We have so much plan that we won't be able to do now but we know you're in a better place in no more pain. Watch over your mom. She needs your strength more than ever right now papa man. I know you don't hurt no more and try to make myself. Think of that to find a little bit of lightness guy got you Papa I love you I wouldn't wish that kind of trauma in anybody nobody man. Not Not, my worst enemy with that kind of trauma on. No not at all the child. nope I don't know what happened buddy his son S I. I can't even imagine as soon as as soon as we take a break on McCall my kids just to say I, Love Good Morning, status. Who sent some positive managing? Absolutely. Yeah wishing positive energy love and light is family. Know why you ended with that I? Well, that is your rumor report skied. Sorry. Friday. Right. Let's switch gears. No don't just go to break. Front page news is next today morning. Everybody is DD Envy Angela. Ye. Shall I mean the guy we are the breakfast club was getting some front page news. Now with sports Thursday Night Football Oh the bears pizza tippy buccaneers twenty, two nineteen does dramas team the Tampa Bay buccaneers. In spicy claims been a fan before Tom Brady and got over there on that is he says, I want you guys don't ask any questions them saying you didn't my name's Doug last week. So what do you mean? That I would. News. Fan looks like the old Tampa Bay buccaneers Melville to. Sassy. What is a rose in his mouth theft? Day go now game five is tonight Lakers versus heat tonight at nine o'clock. The Lakers lead the series three, two, one I need the heat scratched the series I. Don't need to heat at least make the series go to game six and I need tyrod. What's his name at Tyler? Hero Tyler Hetero a Rota have a great game. All my good. Game because I I've found a toddler Hetero rookie card yesterday and it's already worth like six hundred dollars so You know I need him to keep Wallin. So I can put that in Glasgow in twenty. Now were some Guy Right. Now today is the last day to register to vote for New York, North Carolina and Oklahoma. So if you ever registered to vote register to vote please. Now Corona virus cases seem like Rona virus cases are shooting up UH Montana Nebraska North Dakota Oklahoma South Dakota and Wyoming have all seen record high hospitalization numbers in the past days. Now, Alabama in Hawaii are the only two states with a decline in cases. Now, how much do people have a lot are living? Well, let's talk about that Donald Trump. Spoke yesterday and he talked about, he just got a little room I think I'm going to try doing a rally on Saturday night. If we can we have enough time to put it together but we want to do a rally in probably in Florida on Saturday night might come back and do one in Pennsylvania in the following night and it's Incredible what's going on I? Feel so good. Have you had test since your diagnosis a week ago? Well, what we're doing is probably the cast will be tomorrow and the actual task because there's a reason to test all the time but they found very little infection virus if any what the Hell is little little Ronan he got a little bit of Ronin man, he's treating own legs a cold. He's treating Corona legacy flu. He's trying to tell people that they can still function and be out and about with Kobe but I don't think that's not. A little bit of Aetna Alcove and works the whole point that is spread. So easily right. So the transmission of the viruses what we're trying to prevent what he is maneuvering like it's nothing like it's just the like I said a cold it's got the sniffles do a rally dot dot you sit on your ass what fourteen days he's out and about after ten by the way I don't feel sorry for anybody that goes to that rally you go into that rally I don't feel sorry for the people around Donald Trump? If you around Donald Trump knowing that he just got a little bit of Corona. Little that little bit of Corona can sprayed. Okay. So you all y'all get with charges. Are we earlier just getting? Could you imagine if somebody says I got just a little bit of SSD? I just got a little syphilis. What lunches. But mean. People kind of do though right. Like you know you've got herpes and you still out there you know what I mean. Nobody taking just address say there's no such thing as a little bit. Threads you gotTa know you have. It's very that's what I'm saying. Thinking about something about. Thinking about you know when you which just significant other and. Miss that time of the month but. It's towards the end. To Nasty now. said. All right now Donald. Trump. Donald trump and how healthy he sounds assistance. Well, I didn't even want to the last time. I had a big problem. They oscillated my Mike's when I had to win debate to where three Hillary and Or I think the I obey. The. Lorimer. I. Obey they oscillated the Mike but I will say this absentee is okay. because. Ballots. He just a little debt. He's just dying. New Nine a little. Bit Deaf. That's all. Right now it's disrespectful. I didn't like to see the what he called a Kamla Harissa nasty name. He's not mentally capable of being president. You know that everybody knows that and this monster that was on stage with Mike Pence who destroyed our last night by the way but there's monster she says, no no, there won't be fracking. They won't be there. So what? Ally, and this is why black people have to always show up at their full cells the time there's nothing wrong with being unapologetically you and as I was saying on the radio I think it was yesterday the day before yesterday I can't wait for the day black women can show up and just beat themselves having to be worried about being labeled angry or whatever it is and guess what you might as well show yourself because they're going to label you anyway she was in there trying to be composed. Trying to be she was in. a holding back and still got caught a monster. Do you. Give the damn. All right. Well, now is your front page news now when we come back Oh yes we have senator Nina Turner joins. You talking about an unapologetically black woman bass right and you ain't never got to worry about need to turn the national and up her whole full self s right. She launched the we we have the hello somebody podcast on the black effect podcast network on Iheartradio new episode launched yesterday, and we'll have an inherent next to talk about that amongst a lot of other big last night. So don't move is the breakfast club. The Breakfast Club. that. Interest born in show morning. Everybody is Tj. Envy. Angela. Ye Shall Amina Guy we are the breakfast club. You got a special guest online right now neither. And No. Let's get right into the debates. What did you think? CARMELA Verse Mike, Pence, and the fly. What were your thoughts Jamie Melita fly out of is? Innocent bystander this about Senator Harris came in hot. She came in and did what she needed to do. She is a great debater showed those skill sets overall both candidates did what they needed to do, which was to protect the flank of their principles as speak to their base who? are a show. I commend senator hairs for coming in right off the bat talking about the cold did and the epic fail of the trump administration is a however to this out of however for her because she did her thing we have to get beyond these debates are not about getting to the substance of the matter. So as one thing to talk about covert and we should in how the trump administration fail miserably held the Republicans spent as much time trying to find a solution to the conundrum of healthcare as they have. Trying to do away with the Ach, we have some good healthcare, the United States of America only other hand. You can't have a pandemic of this magnitude, the suffering of this magnitude and not talk about what the fix should be and could be, and that is Medicare for all I didn't hear a lot about talking about the poor talking about the barely the work, the work important barely middle class, not a whole lot of conversation about black folks in particular style. Overall, the debate structure doesn't lend itself to go deep in those ways. In Needham I thought about you last night that is always think about all the strong systems that I know it makes me wonder how can we empower our sisters and make them feel comfortable showing up their full selves at all times because I hate that black women can express themselves the way they want to without being labeled a angry black woman. So it starts by having the conversations like you are now naming it. That it is. So in this society that of black woman show rights is indignation. If anybody walking on the face it his damn or got a right to righteous indignation Arrays Hill at all times is a black woman, but it's the embracing of all of who we are and we have a right to be mad as hail people need I like the hair is on fire is time for that and black women displayed at I think better and deeper deeper. Than anybody else because we often carry the burdens literally of the entire world on our shoulders. So acknowledging that we don't get a chance to to be our true sales is part of a starving to try to fix that. What do you think she dropped the ball because I think she could have stuck at the Mike Pence a lot harder than she did in a couple of things the racism part when when when that, when the vice president said that He criticized the Biden here's administration for talking about racism being at the root being recalls in this country I would lean man would have been. A black hole fly. Now. Fly came right when he says. I mean, just the lean into that but I think DJ in NBA goes back to something else to Charlemagne was saying she may be hesitated a little bit right Almost, not quite of the first debate remember President Obama had were Romney. He held back because I've been he has white advisors. I must be honest. Told don't go in there like angry black man now not saying that that's his persona. Where he held back a lot and I saw some of that tendency, not a lack of senator hairs dinner thing. But I saw some of that tendency. In that debate, we just got a call it what it is, and any person in the United States of America who didn't extend mouth is my grandmother was a big day out to say that white supremacy anti. Blackman. Is is not at the root of all the other `ISMs in the United States of America they are out of their. Damn minds and we just got the call it. What it is if your hair is on fire act like your hair is on fire I would win Ian on him all day seven days three, six, five on that issue right that she could lean a little harder. So both as what they had to do but there was a whole lot of right descending nation and quite frankly tours in getting bored and you know Donald Trump this morning on Fox News, he called Kamala Harris, a monster. A full. It's the same thing. He called I'm Arosa, and I know some people want to keep my sister out the try. But I'm not doing that she'll buckeye girl just like I am pretty caught her doll. Saying we should be upset. How dare he called Senator hairs a monster. At the same time, he called our system Ross adult should. Be. And then we got a problem with black women. He got a problem with black people and there's no amount of cloaking eight. That's GONNA. Save this do he's just he's just wrong until I told him last night you know I i. think that Senators Senator Harris talents are wasted defending, Joe? Biden? Joe. Biden? No. Need Defense Right now the black community does the poor does the marginalized does Defend Joe Biden you need to be defended the people that have been hurt by this pandemic, all the conditions that left him vulnerable for the pandemic in the I league save that. But when you on the seconds chair, that's the nature of the job when you are running into somebody else's vice president was the same from. If you. If you support somebody on a campaign, you have to articulate their views and their vision that is your job. is so that is the job of vice presidential candidate. That is what senator hairs is do much not to say she came step out there every now and then and I hope that she does but she is a building just played textbook what her role is in being vice presidential candidate. You GotTa defend your candidate when you let's talk about you because you've got so much going on let's start with a Amari. Yes. Public Affairs. Let's talk about that. I'm bringing the progressive black woman five to the private sector. That's what I am going to continue to stand up and push issues that will change the lives of people do it on the private private sector side about between two billion, four, billion dollars that's been promised by these companies who all of a sudden got religion when it comes to fighting racial justice will come on a students would assisted. Let's do. Some things on the private side that can change the lives of people in this country for real for real, not just checking off boxes. SOM-, excited I am going to do influence advising I'M GONNA work with candidates that are running on progressive agenda who once they get elected don't forget how they got there and what they are in either Congress of the Legislature Oma on the state level of government those. Are the kinds of things that Amari GonNa do I'm GONNA be fighting or campaign issues right now working on measure J in California was will take ten percent of the of the shares budget ten percent of the budget and put it towards housing. This only La. County on housing jobs and health keep. Those are the kinds of creative things that we need to push government to do and also the private sector. To do so your sister going to be all up in the mix on that side of the ledger new you go. I got more with Senator Nina Turner we come back don't move is the breakfast club Gamal Dj envy ends. Lee Charlemagne the guy we are the breakfast club was still kicking with. Senator Nina Turner talking about what you Charlemagne got working with each other now. Thanks you guys adores and things together. The blackout. Yet I am so happy to be one of the shows in May big into the network in partnership. Radio, the dude is the bring variety of voices I pause Charlemagne. On this to bring glad voices from all walks of all issues is the main of the podcast world and hello somebody is really about everybody is somebody I got that that name came to me when I was on the campaign trail y'all know I was so up my ass off let's the. Senate Ernie Sanders I just did that panels they`ll You gave them a lot of credibility. You gave a lot of credibility. Thank you for that, and so I was speaking to a crowd and you all know my call and response from my black searched roots and it just came to me hello somebody's talking about talking about thirty thousand people that day in Queens. New York. The past my hometown by the way. Jj Love. They go hello body power hello. Everybody is somebody and I really want on the journey people to be able to go on a journey with my guest with need from people who have high profiles to people who are just everyday citizens trying to navigate this world and let's go on this journey understanding together and so I am so delighted and excited. Can You? In a Newark comes today right here. Okay The lines at the apartment. There you go you're. Welcome today, right. Comes out today interviewing nail declined people may know she's activists and environmentalists. He tells the truth, the whole truth and nothing. But the truth about the dangers we are in it, we don't turn around what human beings just we human beings all across the world map this this nation will we have done to disrupt into enter the Serb mother her Yes. I want you to talk to the people about your grandmother taught you about the the three bones theory that that you that you live by what? What is it three bone theory for people who don't know it is the wish bone the jawbone in the backbone. So My Grandmother Board in one, thousand, nine, hundred, fifteen, and not read write only had. A third grade education but often say describing her grandmother count money based you can read read accounts you counted that month but yes, she muklewicz I mean is what we call an african-american community not a formalized education mother would very wide and the three bones or something that can part it's do my siblings and I the wishbone is hoping and praying hope she. Is. The motivator that the dream is the driver, the Jawbone gig curse to speak truth towered lint your voice as I often say titles are good. Purpose is better and grandma's last bone Super Branch cads enlisted FBI. Ball is the bat ball. If the back backbone give you curse to stain no matter what you go through, you can't give somebody of back at they don't have at the backbone is the undergird every other thing that we do in his life. So just take wishbone job on backbone, and if it is a recipe life and I just love her so much or that that mother, would you know what she was telling the story growing up and just kind of brush them off. Though three both of saved many a days Charlemagne. On this journey of Life Day you go. You know somebody who's asked to outspoken. Senator Turner. The podcast space allow you the freedom to press yourself more. So than television or any other medium. It does because it's longer form and be truly who I am and I don't have to focus in on soundbites often that's coming on the breakfast club, which I'll give those space debris. You only got four to five minutes segment. Sometimes you share the same somebody else is hard to really express yourself totally, and the podcast gives me independence and that what I like about the black effect because it is about our independence, it's just the podcast is be total freedom. Now ever run again people go go back and roll some tape, but that's okay. On the road damn tape now I will say I think that's the one thing has changed forever. I wanted hear nothing about what somebody said ten years ago fifteen years ago politicians are allowed to be flawed they're allowed to be human I want here. I. Agree. With you not flaw maybe not as close trump but. They got. Under them. Themselves you can help me out. Right now what? The Mon there was some commentary. after the VP debasement somebody said something to the effect of. Changing and trump into disruptor. Will I don't believe by the change agent but what would that mean you when you hear the air multiple way disrupts trump is a disruptive for. We have had and still having sampled the people disrupt or good. No civil rights movement was a disruption or good. What Are Substitutes Emeka Mallory and and people like our. Figaro, what they're doing disruption for Beulah so disrupted is not necessarily a bad thing but. What are you disrupt in four? Changing, Joe Biden not that I think no not what what did you just accept people for what they are some prominent these we got abandoned the worse choice. Don't say I beat the Socialists. When you got the overwhelming majority of Americans in this country who agree that we need Medicare for all? Three with the green new deal they agreed we got to reform a criminal justice system that has been told from the blow up from the beginning universal basic income Domo. That's what a team's agent will do. Now maybe we put that administrate stood. Dig Govern Waiting Rain that's as me we got worshiping elected. So they are the both servants of the people. The power that they hold is your power. It's our power, those tax dollars they always talking about what ain't going do or what they are not going to do. They say about show money's not being money. You had tell the story like his their power, their money. And if the if the if the Hunter always tells the down story Elias Story is told. People out there talent the lions soared the people's story and not the story these politicians. I think the only problem I have with this ticket is like I don't know what they stand on because you know you have. Senator Harris whose standard. When it comes to the the green new deal, the new green deal, and then you got Biden saying. You don't know if he fought in new green the green do like I. Don't know what they stand on like we already, I don't think they know. and. Do maybe that the opportunity I'm GonNa look at that as an opportunity that they don't know, do you think the large presence of black people in the progressive space? It Nair it appears that we're talking about formal Mo-. Progressive Space as eaten saying the word progressive I believe that black folks are the original progressive or liberal. I got got find our love length of when it comes to that and I say that because it don't get no more progressive in fighting, but your berry lacks. All the way back to we need, we need to be free fighting for your life. You don't get any more progressive than bumping up against a status quo that considered you chattel. It get any more progresso. been standing up to say to a criminal justice system you are wrong in every studied imagination that you always seen as the other that of the NBA take it anymore. So is the mason black people on the regional progressives? We just don't necessarily call ourselves our wacky. Senator Nina Turner I don't know what you're going to run for next but I swear for God whatever you run for I am behind you a million twenty, thousand percent absolute or thank you need to protect our Wick, they hit his podcast automated Nina turn everywhere you listen to podcasts. Everywhere you listen to podcast hello somebody hosted by Senator Nina. Turner. Is available on the black heart radio. Thank you so much for checking. ascended. Anita Turner is the breakfast club morning. This is the fourth with Angelini. Close. Trey Songz released some new music music today list of Trey Songz dropped a new album is called back home. No are rap is on his album strictly RMB everybody some walker ty dolla sign Dhabi dough, and more we a clip of A. Sir. What. Keeps me I can't explain. You look at what is not looking at you. Love don't even look over here. What is playing why? Looking at you try that out later on tonight at the housewife's, he would have about the second. Goodness Gracious. Kinky now look you'll. Pearl. Now. Reason dropped the new album luxuries. New Beginnings Let's play join offer that. Can Make you wrong still, right. On Time Still Brian can make make yourself. Feel Great. Dot can make. Make you feel good I can make an invalid no Ross. Feel good. Back to make. Can Make It. Make you. Can make it name. And get a fan together with. Triggers plan from the south. Anymore pay. I love. Dropping bombs reason that record is I can make speeches, North Carolina's on rhapsody while also love they are spitting some high grade high-calibre bars on that project you hear me. Now also Saint John released a new single gorgeous pappas pap who's PAP whose he released a new album called endangered species. You could pick that up and Benny to butcher egg dropped a new single budget coming. Let's talk about it. What are we got your mouth bro Bro. Don't do that. Stuff in your mouth just taking swabs. high-grade high-calibre hip, hop right now. In my mouth, I'M GONNA give you second swallowed. Okay good. Guys crazy. Now, many released a new single features little wayne in big Sean is called timeless. Now, this beat was asked supposed to go to watch the throne album but they not to take it. So here it is, and here's a snippet of illicit who big Sean is taking a stab at silence lay deal now. On my master's term good in green process to everything even taking these fame swear labeled be again just is like Jesus has g greasier disease. Dropping bombs many of the butcher little Wayne is also on that record everybody on this snap into high caliber high grade wrapping is happening on that record but those bars clearly from big shot with a Kanye West I. told you all a couple of weeks ago to Kanye. Big. Sean three million dollars I told you all a couple of weeks ago. Con-. You had mixon in a terrible deal where he gets half a Shaanxi Province in half Sean royalties and big Sean could have gotten his master's back but Kanye said no play again. So it's better context. On him my master's term good in great impressive everything. Even taking face sweat label. That's a beast only anthem. G greasier disease now listen I told you up Beasley Only M.'s I told you got to applaud shaw for his restraint, but has got gotta be nuts to hear man brag about being worth five billion dollars as he did yesterday but he owes two million gotta be crazy feeling. You got to be a crazy here man screaming about fighting to give give get folks back there. Massive won't give you back yours. Say he was going to give his office back their masters. He also put yesterday on Instagram or twitter say he says from fifty three, million in debt to a net worth of five billion in four years. Thank you. Jesus well Sean is clearly tired of the hypocrisy. When is not about beef between black men is about black men practicing with the preaching and not being false prophets for self serving reasons you need to buy shot absolutely period and that is your rumor report now sally, give it A. Man Story broke my heart not only gonNA break my heart. It immediately made me send it to a lot of women in my life and lead them i. told him please take serious swallow in your Marlboro I'm not I can't take you serious. You got. To add that, I can't take you serious. I'm already down here. Take me seriously I got to swallow. This crazy. Lack of respect I'm leaving in the second guard lack of respect in his room is disgusting okay. I'll WanNa tell you what I'm not knocking out. You just going to get it. Boy. But DOC, in today's on the next to the breakfast club good morning, you can't a breakfast club. Zone never be to say. Forty eight states being texting and driving. So if you do it, you're not only putting people at risk your break, the law cartwright tickets to save lives remember you drive you text, you pay brought to you by Nitsa. Jake. Who did. You. Know I'm a fat and all. I want his man to doting Blouse mad at. The top of. Make a judgment. On the of the day they chose you. The breakfast club Bitchy who's donkey the day-to-day let's right and soon as we get through this dog and we're GonNa get to the bottom of something. But y'all just stand by stand back and standby. Alright. Don't you today for Friday October? Knife? Young Twenty seven year old man in Las Vegas named Sydney deal I read this story the other day and it emotionally spiritually drained me. I'm not having a lot of y'all immediately because there's just certain things. That I feel are instilled in us by nature and this situation made me question that I am a father of three young girls and is absolutely nothing I wouldn't do to protect them. That's my job as a man to protect and provide for my princesses. So whatever trauma harm or pain I can prevent them from going through I will. So when I, read stories like the one I'm about to tell you promise you first. Thing I do is send it out to the women I. Love My life and telling them please for the love of God Watch who you let your club. Okay. Now let's get to it. Sydney deal has been arrested and charged with one count of child abuse or neglect causing substantial bodily harm and he's being held on twenty thousand dollar bond. What did Sydney deal do? Well, let me read the headline from the New York Post. Toddler dies in hot car after dad refused to let. COPS. Break Window let's go to eight news now. Las Vegas for the report police records from CPS show the department investigated to reports of neglect at the home of say a deal after she was born the toddler died Monday. After she was left inside a car at a home near Mlk, an owens both of those reports were found to be unsubstantiated say his father twenty-seven-year-old Sydney deal charged with. Child Abuse and neglect his arrest report showing he refused to break a window to get her out. Deal has posted bail and once released will remain on house arrest until he's back in court in December. Now let me put some more context that news report I was reading in NY Post. Ny poses reporting that he refused the break window of his car to save his dying toddler. Sydney. flagged down officers after he left one daughter in a hot car according to the New York Post offices offer to break the window call a tow truck. A locksmith with Sydney declined asked to call his brother. Now if any of this is true, what would be to have the tation? I wouldn't have even called the cops the window would have been broke already. Okay. Now after several minutes opposite smashed a window and pull out. The unresponsive girl who died at the scene, the causes deficit pending but authorities believed she had been trapped in the car for more than an hour. Now, even more context the deals brother said, he received a call from Sydney saying he accidentally locked his daughter Cy in the car which he claimed had air conditioner running if the air conditioning rose renting, would he still killed her? confused but Sydney's brother says when he got there, he immediately wrapped his charter on his hand and off the punch the window with Sydney stopped him and claimed he didn't have enough money to fix a broken window and he instead asked his brother to call their mom to have her insurance company sent a locksmith. Now there's more Sydney's girlfriend who I can't believe it still be as girlfriend after this also told police she called the Insurance Company for him but he told her to hang up because he didn't agree with the price quoted for told trump. This story makes my back hurt. Okay. Ladies my brother's this is your Uncle Charlotte talking I need you to listen to me and listen to me good if you as a man would sacrifice the life of your child because you can't afford to break a window, get them out of a hot car where they are dying are you can't afford a tow truck are locksmith then guess what else you can't afford sense. You can't afford to have sex. There's absolutely no reason for you to be putting their paw has peanuts and other people's daughters and when I say poor I don't mean financially. nope. Because Donald Shame people for not having money I'm talking about poor character support character led to the injustice of this one year being dead she didn't deserve it and Sydney. What you're going to realize is that you didn't deserve that either see poverty is easier to conquer an injustice Sydney. You could have broke down window and found the money later to get it fixed but the injustice that happened to your daughter allegedly caused by you. The trauma of that injustice that pain that hurt haunt you have. All right. This story really bothers me it bothers me the away I. Hear a white people more said about burnt buildings than they are about dead bodies like I expect culturally clueless white folks look at black people to sub-human. I expect him to be more upset about buildings being burnt down in a protest. The they are about black bodies being killed by police and white supremacist but a black man to than a piece of property over his daughter. His all flesh and blood has not one material item that I love more than my daughters. Okay. The fact that I even have to say that says a lot about the current state of affairs. And our communities or please let her meemaw give Sydney deal the biggest he ha- he you stupid mother. You, dumb that whenever I don't know if it's his psychological state or his financial state but I don't care how broke you me are may not be if you have to choose between the window of your new car and your one year, old s should be easy. I would drive with that broken window for years. Years like there's no logical explanation I don't care what kind of car was I don't care whose car was if you half the shadow, a window to save your child or any child you. Know. Jesus Christ Marcus. Changing music which gives all right. Because I've got some questions now with the donkey of the DAD, ask. Here, all week we've been here all week DJ, NBN myself and I'm Jay, dramas here and. Angelina has been often I'll be honest with you man envy makes me uncomfortable. You know you make me uncomfortable you flirts with me now you flirt with me entirely too much. I don't know if y'all notice it. No, you flirt with me entirely I don't know of your notice it they notice it but it's it's getting a little uncomfortable. So I just WANNA ask the. Is it disrespectful to my wife way DJ flirts with me. Let me let me ask you guys a question out the eight, hundred, five, eight, five, one. Oh, five, one. Is it disrespectful to my wife what the way Charlemagne flirts with now you guys let me say. This and the reason I say that is you know he flirts me all the time. The Not only that for a gift, he buys me his ass or as the ball don't bring up old. Natalie bring a joke. You took that a little too seriously. Since in this is this flirting on this happens group Tech's. UCLA. Drom flew with me all the time. John. To onto group tax who flirts more more both be fired. Out of Hey. We haven't seen that asset a time by the way. I don't. Know What He wants you to saggy now. Let's get back to the. Michael this. It doesn't even know what? Eight, hundred, five, eight, five, one, zero, five, one way Charlemagne I mean no is it disrespectful known the way? Flirts with me and. My Wife. Now Look I. Want you to see a message from my son. My son texted me yesterday is just Didn't say. Can you read? This is why. This is why they called me. poopie finger. Finger Moody Boy. Because you. Know. What we're GONNA. Give me I need to read. You know. and Finger Budi Boy Logan I need to know that you're a junior. Okay. Okay seniors in a room poopie boy seniors. All right. Needs. Voice Senior Foot for me this is our way. And it gives it gives me. This is my way because when we were sitting courtside virtually. On Sunday whatever it was logan was in your seat at first. Look. Selah may sit on radio. Kiss. Look. I got off the screen immediately. Place. Eight hundred. Five one is the way to. Flirt No? Way. To my wife My wife I'm going to human resource I need to know about. Puberty Boise. Fallen right next. Your to the breakfast club top Paprika down eight, hundred, five, eight, five, five, one, the breakfast, club. Warning everybody. Envy Angela Yee Charlemagne the guy we are the breakfast club good morning. If you're just joining us, we just asking I'm asking a serious question right now I'm asking us. The. Main. If you listen to the breakfast for the last ten years out of the live, you notice that I really think he's low funny and. Twentieth how what do you mean like ha ha funny. kind of I don't know if it's funny or are you serious when he flirts me all the time now flirting with you the problem Angeliki. And being, Angela been off all week you've been really really really flirting in the finals Graf. Movement. You Played Trey Songz about ten fifteen minutes ago and kept looking to Mula Plan. In fact I think disrespectful to my wife. Well, let's let's go to the phone lines. A lot of people that went into question. What is the question we're asking the way you flirt with me as a this? WAY YOU FLIRT WITH Me Hello WHO's this and I'll hey brandy brandy is the way he hates me. From this disrespect food. Disrespectful to your wives and Y'all 'cause down bisexual Yasha. Wow. So we disrespect in both of our lives is what you said. Yes that's that's that's not right. You know I. I was in a relationship what to do was day in with todd. Oh. So you think hold on. So you think that we actually what each other. Valley. Yeah. Every morning it'll be. A really. Good thing this really really did we'd be flirting she's an expert on this about. This All wrong from him and he towns face Tommy I need you to question for me. Is it disrespectful to the way? The way he flirts with me is disciplined with is so disrespectful entity that you don't accept the love that this man. Wow. Imitate de love of. Law Man I think maybe. You understand poking boys. Enjoy. Say Yo l get over it. They know they pulled me boys. Not On radio my goodness. This. From Brooklyn. Hey, ray from Brooklyn. Now Brooklyn. Roy Off, Br Royal. Young L. Can I ask you a question? How does she? Flirts the digital to my wife is a disreputable. He throws me to my wife. Burnsville. On. Talk about envy but all the time say. You are the one bring up the but built the gays the everything when it comes of course, you believe me. With you. Uncle Salt. and become envy even say anything that neighbor I it's something that's not even on topic you make it that way. That is impossible. I did not inventor remix. Thank you so much. It's a true he. They envy. Me Now. I. Don't you always flirt with me. Hello. WHO's this? Can Kim Jam? Cam disrespectful to my wife the way envy before me. Come on now, I have to tell the truth. On the line you are always. J. Mvp. V.. Mean, you know Charlemagne always messing with you. So charlemagne started. Right Thank you so much can is unfair who taking these calls. I'm just going to a random. Wow. Hello. WHO's this? Doing. Missouri. Hello too fast slow down. What's your name now grilling hardens straight out of St Louis. Missouri Beatty's. Thinking disrespectful the way envy's wife the way. Do. You think it's disrespectful to my wife. My wife, the way I with me. No. Be when each other our way is the room. What rules? No point. Rule in the fifties and sixty two I remember. especially down. South. Report renewable rights. And a lot of different neighborhoods now still narrow. All right. I understand you get what you're saying. I understand we come eight, hundred, five hundred. Five we're asking, is it disrespectful to my wife Mayor with disrespectful to my wife? The way flirts with me. I'm tired of this call us up now is the breakfast club morning. Morning everybody. TJ. Envy Angela Ye shall I mean the guy we are the breakfast club if you join us, we haven't a serious conversation man we're asking right? Is it disrespectful to my wife? Charlemagne flirts Amino don't like it already where asking. We're asking disrespectful to my wife the way in before it would meet me you people saying envy don't flair. That's a damn lie. What does your son say? What did Logan say envy wasn't local finger because it as you game they call them poopie finger in. The you know what I mean that makes you poopie finger senior lose this will on this stuff. Yeah. Was Bro wit which? Is. It disrespect already know how you feel about. Is it. Time to talk. With you is. The way I with me to my wife. Someday, you'll do and. What do you mean? Have you that'd be? Like that'd be more than you. About envy. Talk about his his beard. Time calling the milliken poppy. Poppy. Any. More like more like look at me. I. Don't look at that man no, it's not my type. Hello. WHO's this? Was By ray? Is it disrespectful to my wife? The wait is man I don't even know what the district with my wife and before it's me. Is. But My you guys need to stop as it listen. A. Little. Other. Why? was. Back. But soon. Used to brothers not showing love each other that you want us to date goodness. Gracious. Hello. WHO's this? Hey. Hey Good morning not suspectful to my wife mayor not the dish than my wife, the way and before. I'm glad have. Dr Levine on. I have to. Read this number one NV gear beclouding you anyway. What they gotta do. Ask. He bought me. If? Nothing to you live this morning. That's right. Wing. Program we're doing the radio. On. Telling me to swallow and all types what's up with day? That's the way you what he thinks. Thank You T. Love you guy. Tasha I'm just asking a question. Is it disrespectful to my wife Wait Guy Fluids Tasha, the digits, my wife and before we come on honestly either one of you guys wide our finding totally disrespectful. The way that has really What. You do. And I'm here to know who started being. I mean. It's one thing to be homeless. You're man of friend have a romance and all that. But some of the stuff y'all say Kare. Like if I was married Mike what first of all the little booty jokes. Is I over. ME. And I heard another man I made no by my man, but I ain't never come into. commodores but. Yes. Global of you have both of you. And I know they a plan, but it's like man it's so calming always doing. I tell you store store your story when I first moved back to New York almost ten years ago. There was a woman at an apartment complex and she told me, she said Chaumet commendatore said you really need to watch off Digi Envy said why? She say, because he's got a little got a little friend that he visits over here. That looks just like you. I think you're as type. Short short ball heads, same complexion, and comes over here all the time. That was my friend little. College, but that's one of my best friends I. Go I used to go visit him all the time. He's the apartment building as shown me, and that's why she said. But let's talk about the guy that got on Youtube and was his name is glitter stick and he said that you used to take a bus to come see him and given that pain painting. Deflect. Nevil. Do. something. We don't WanNa talk to. y'All. Outside Anything to. One person. WHO's this? You them I prayed on the radio. Sandstone I, meant to put some your cash the other day. I did but but that wasn't the right. You sent me the wrong asset. All right. So Sean, let me ask you listen the show every morning right Charlotte. Man Flirts with me. This is. Putting my wife the way in before me slow. So the thing is I've been under man long show them in you lose the game the reason why? Even lifting as you. As. Crazy and you'd be like, you flip it around. You know what I mean what are you talking about yet you lose game you NBA your but. Your but. Envy way through mud grow. Up that, every white will be up that you. Thank you who asked You I don't remember bathrooms. I asked them. All right. There's no more or less stories flirt with me more to stories. Let's get a room. Thank. You got the winner. Guys crazy talk. Man This guy is crazy the breakfast club. The Breakfast Club. It's about. This is the rumor report. On the breakfast club. Now Tori lanes has been charged with felony assault in the Megan the stallion shooting down to La County DA's office with one count of assault with a semi automatic firearm and one count of carrying a loaded unregistered firearm in a vehicle they alleged at Torrey inflicting great bodily injury. If convicted, he will face he faces up to twenty two years and eight months in. Prison. I. Mean I was one of the points of contention for a lot of people right I'm even wondering like, okay. Why hasn't he been charged? Right? You know I wonder if police were investigating this whole time I wonder if social media chatter and album Tori dropped caused that caused more social media chat I wonder if that led to the the the charges. Well. Let's see what happens. I'm not sure what his first court date is, but we'll definitely see and why wouldn't you just talk to the police if you know that you possibly facing charges just talked to the police. Do a real interview. You explain the situation like you can't say you're not going to speak about it, but then do a whole album about it. I'm glad you know a married and faithful because tornadoes making it to where women will five nine may never look at brothers five six short of a day really never looked shell anyway to can't gamble none of the damn like I. Tell You something else I don't think y'all realized how much. How much the court of public opinion impacts these criminal cases either. Because these these folks are press charges based off he no just just to social media narrative right Also, the twenty twenty at Hip Papa awards will be hosted by the eighty five south shows young fly come on. 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All right a lot on the ballot, and by the way you know when we talk about presidents, you talk about President is not being able to get anything done presidents can get things done when they have a majority Senate does on this is when they have a majority house on this side, you know what I mean. So those seats are very very, very important, right? So when your state is they last day you could just hit up the breakfast club. Or online or on the instagram rights on instagram on breakfast Instagram, you see where your state the last day to register South Carolina need be voting for Jamie Harrison. Time. To get Old Lady Bug Lindsey Graham about it. Okay. We need. We need new blood. I'm tired old white male leadership. You know what? I mean. All white male leadership has gotten American position. That is in South Carolina. You got a chance to put Jamie Harrison innocent AC-. Do it okay. I'm I'm definitely voting down balloting I'm voting for Jamie. Harrison so all right. Well, that is your rumor report. Now shot to revolt we'll see you guys on Monday. He will be back on Monday. You'll be back to that means envy can't flirt with me no more careful it with me. Okay. This week had crazy has been crazy and I'm already went to human resources already. Me You. Suck My. Visual feedback. Kept repeating. Dough that is proof. You can't. You can't repeat me I want to see how far you would go and. I won't make sure you know when to stop God I know when to stop that would've sounded stupid, smds. Them. Try, let's try to. Say. that. I'm. Not Saying. You. Cry Go back with the breakfast club boarded. The Breakfast Club your mornings on never be to say. Inspired. By True Events Chogm City King shed light on Baltimore's dirt bike coach through the eyes of Young Black Teens starring Hedy, Isla Winston and meek mill now streaming on Hbo Max. Radar. Warning everybody is DJ Envy Angela Yee the Guy We are the breakfast club south. Everybody that signed up for my web south, the Caesar, we're doing a Webinar. Breaking down a one family flip you know we get so many times people be like, well, you know how do y'all do it how do y'all flip a crib? HOW PURCHASE IT? How do you? So we're going to break. We're going to break down the whole process. We're going to purchase a home We're going to go through the whole process of lending indem demo and everything you could possibly from a plumbing electric flooring roofing siding, and then we're. Going to go through the process of selling. So we're gonNA show you everything had cut corners, how to save money and all that. So if you want more information, just Lincoln my by your seizes bio, and hopefully we'll see at the web and I i. know a lot of you guys are getting your p. p. checks and you get an unemployment and get a little extra money. Don't know what to do with it. So definitely, Invest Invest Invest, invest? Dirty money and people. Wouldn't not. But people are investing which which I wanNA, see them do. Why just give me all listen I want to remind everybody in New York to man registered to vote. Okay. Today the last day to register to vote in New York City. Right voting important. I'm telling you that because I am voting and I'm voting for my interest I'm voting for individuals even though I do like Senator Harris but it's not even just about sending a camera Harris writes a lot of things vote for come November third I'm actually going to read them to you looking at the other day. I thought this is very important up for election this year one president one vice president thirty, three Senate, seats four, hundred and thirty five House seats, eleven, governor seats, ten Attorney General's seven Secretary of Eight, and twenty to seventy seven state appellate court seats. Okay. All right. When we come back positive note, it's the breakfast club good morning. Morning everybody is Dj Envy Angela Ye shall I mean the guy we are the breakfast club. Now Solomon. You've got a positive note I do WanNa talk about character. character will reflect itself. Inconsistent behavior while Paul character will seek to hide behind deceptive words and actions which one will you choose Frederick? Finish. In both at the gate outside when they. Jump out boys as Nike boys up in our coast way to be. Stop the RIMI at post. Damn out down the nose. Down we may know now is. Popular with the. Jamba Joe's different color changed in my jewelry Senate pros and. Talk. To retreat. To deep. Sleep. You. Know I. Don't follow Stacey Dash. Mosaic. Does I might take on. Put All they know grow? 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