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1990 AC Delco 500
Our radio presents the vast car. Winston Cup Siri. The AC Delco five hundred. Back the North Carolina Motor Speedway. Most of the drivers have already climbed aboard their cars getting ready to get down to business for a little better than four hours in the five hundred mile event here at the racetrack this afternoon, let's take a look at that starting grid back in fortieth position. Charlie Baker in the Caribbean Buick Jimmy means will start thirty nine the alka seltzer Pontiac thirty eight Jim bound Heinz fifty seven Pontiac. There's quite a story there that will talk about as the afternoon goes by thirty seventh Tracy Leslie into Detroit gasket Oldsmobile thirty six Ted musk grave and less. Brave. Racing chevrolet. The P Pontiac belongs to Richard petty. And that will be back in thirty fifth position thirty fourth road. Racer? Tommy KENDALL in the EDS racing Chevrolet. Thirty third is Mike Skinner of the Glidden paints racing Buick thirty-second Rick Jeffrey in Kentucky Fried Chicken Chevrolet and thirty first Jack Pennington in the Sandos chemicals. Oldsmobile thirtieth is Larry Pearson and the GM auctions Chevrolet twenty-ninth, Sterling Marlin driving, these Sonoko Oldsmobile, Daryl. Waltrip has the tide Chevrolet and twenty eighth starting spot. Twenty-seventh is Bobby Hilton. He's Midland Texas driving the Snickers Buick twenty-six this Chad little he has the pill co Ford in the field twenty fifth as Dave Marcus with Mike. Miller's Big Apple markets Chevrolet twenty-fourth is Jeff Purvis. He drives Neil bonnets car. The plastic. Coach Chevrolet twenty-third is Jimmy Hensley in the crown petroleum Oldsmobile twenty-second starter is Morgan shepherd. That's but Moore's motor craft Ford. And we've already heard from Mark Martin. Who is the Winston Cup point leader starting twenty first in the folders coffee Ford back in twentieth. Dale Earnhardt GM Goodrich Chevrolet, starting nineteenth rusty Wallace in the Miller genuine draft. Pontiac that's gonna be a good combination to watch their when they put them on a green, and what's three cars. Try to cut up to the front of the pack back in eighteenth. Brett Bodine of the Quaker state racing Buick seventeenth. Rick Wilson, the dinner bell Food Lion. Oldsmobile sixteenth Mike Waltrip in the country time Maxwell house Pontiac fifteen starter Derek cope and the purolator filters Chevrolet fourteenth is dick trickle in the tropics. Arctic motor oil Pontiac. The rebellious breaks racing Buick. We'll start thirteenth with HUD. Strickland aboard as the driver twelve position belong Sotero body in the magic markets goal. Classic Oldsmobile and the eleven starter is Ricky Rudd and the Levi Garrett Chevrolet good qualifying run. For Dale Jarrett in the wood brothers citgo Ford. He'll start tenth ninth is Ernie Irvan of Modesto, California that Kodak films Chevrolet eighth starter is Rick mast out of rock bridge, baths, Virginia, the banquet, foes in foods Chevrolet, seven starter is Geoff Bodine Shimon New York. The Budweiser Ford going in six Kyle petty. He's in the peak Uniden Pontiac Bill Elliott of Dawson Ville, Georgia starts fifth with the Coors Belling Ford. Fourths daughter is Harry Gant than the Food Lion. School Oldsmobile going third. Alan Koichi driving the zero Ford and the front row Davey Allison. And the Texaco Havilland Ford and Ken Schrader aboard. The Kodiak Chevrolet at one hundred forty seven point eight one four miles an hour. Ken schrader? Is on the poll here at the North Carolina Motor Speedway and Rockingham. The cars still on pit road warming. The temperatures just a bit on the oil all the fluids getting themselves set to go. It is a one point zero one seven mile race track. Just tick over one mile. So consequently four hundred ninety two laps make up five hundred miles here at Rockingham. We're looking at about a four and a half hour race here today. You know, it's interesting. We look back over the last number of races. And we've in many regards take it for granted. The fact that Chevrolet has had a stranglehold on the manufacturers championship. Having won the last seven in a row, but Ford is now won the last four races in succession Bill Elliott at Dover. Geoff Bodine at martinsville. Mark Martin at the north Wilkes borough speedway and Davey Allison at the Charlotte Motor Speedway at looks. As though Ford teams making a concerted run. At the national manufacturers championship is five points behind Chevy and that could bode well for number. The top starters here today if this particular streak hangs on. Well, the qualifying the way it is. There's an equal about an equal number of cars among the top ten or fifteen positions Ford and General Motors products, that's going to be kind of grabs as to what happens here today as we said, I think the key to winning here at Rockingham is pretty well. Darrell Waltrip said the other day that you must wait and let the race come to you. If you try to force it early at this racetrack, you won't be around at the end, the weather if you just joined broadcasts is just about as prettier day as you could ask for to go racing or have a picnic or anything else for that matter? The temperature is going to be around seventy degrees somewhere in that range. So it'll be very comfortable on pit road for the cruise. They have yet to pull the cars onto pit road. And apparently now they began to move a little bit and they will be going onto the racetrack three laps the indication. That's correct Gobi giving them three laps to the cars. Get them shelves set to go again. It's not cold telling it's right around seventy degrees. But nevertheless, three laps will be taken. This is the third event of the racing weekend here at Rockingham. If you weren't with us on the broadcast yesterday Steve Grissom picked up the victory. The Delco two hundred for the Busch Grand National cars Grissom from Gadsden, Alabama. Drove his Oldsmobile to victory ahead of Dale Earnhardt who finished second Morgan shepherd third Mark Martin fourth and Dave mater who finished in the fifth spot Chuck bound finished in eighteenth position. And that was enough to clinch for him the push Grand National series championship with the second place point man, Jimmy Hensley, finishing down in twenty fifth positions are congratulations to Chuck bound, the Hensley family and all who work on that Ness cafe classic machine. They have the Busch Grand National series championship tucked away and certainly yesterday. Barney you covered the victory for Bill. Elliott's crew the course Ford grabbing the Unocal Rockingham pit crew championship. Well, that was close in the suspense went right down to the end timbers. Budweiser team junior Johnson was the last car to go out. And almost everybody predicted. Maybe those teams might be the teams that would win that Pitra championship. And they just miss. It it by I forgot what Morris Metcalf said it it was about like the blink of an eye is how much the difference was exactly the time was twenty four point zero zero two seconds for the Coors Ford, the twenty four point zero to one for the Budweiser fourteen talking to some of the course crew members this morning, they said that in years past they always tried something new something different to try and give him an added advantage in these pit crew competitions. And it always seemed to backfire yesterday. They did things just as they do. Join the races and Bill Elliott's gotten some great pitstops all season long. They decided to change nothing and it paid off yesterday to the tune of seventy six hundred dollars in winnings for that top team. We'll talk a little bit more about that Unocal pit crew championship as the afternoon goes by right now the cars, you're taking a swing completing the first lap around this racetrack. Why don't we take a swing around? It. Also, let you meet the gentleman who will be covering the action force in the turns down in the south end of the race track. In turns one and two over there to cover the action this afternoon, Joel more WPA X radio in Hampton Virginia. Boy this calamity corner yesterday. And the Busch Grand National way sport a coming off her to here's where it really got serious as the cars come into turn one. It looks like a wide sweeping turn now late in the race. It does become a sweeping turn as the groove moves up and the car start running up against outside retaining wall. But in the early stages of the race, everyone stays in the lower two group. So it is kind of tight it tends to buy the car up but coming off turn to running wide against the outside wall, the racetrack straightens out quickly, and all of a sudden they have to turn the car and reset it here for a charge down the back straight away a lot of action here we saw yesterday. We're looking for a lot of it here today as well. The field now comes off turn number four to the start finish line. They will get the one to go signal from Doyle Ford. Here comes Ernie urban bringing the Kodak for the Kodak films Chevrolet down pit lane to the attention of Tony Glover in the crew will get an update on match situation in a moment as at and turns three and four Alan best wick is getting set the cover the action forests. He's from Daytona Beach, Florida. Thank you. Good afternoon everyone. We heard. Boy talk about the difficulties. These cars have getting off turnover to once they do that. It's heavy on the throttle for a quick quarter mile sprint down the back straightaway into the banking of turn three. Now. The trick. At this out of the race track is to get off the throttle and get the car set into the banking. So you can get back on the throttle. Get a good run off of turnover pouring down towards the start finish line. Let's see if I can get an update from the Ernie urban area. The car is still there being worked on by the crew just a minute allow on the way, they are inside the car. So apparently, it is something inside the driver's compartment could be an ignition or an electrical problem, but he may well miss the start. He would have been up in ninth position the crew members. Now, come out the window push the car and he fires and moves on down pit road. But the race is going to start as he'll have to join in on the tail end of the field. So tough break for Ernie urban and the Kodak car in the early going here they come off turn two before getting ready to go for four hundred ninety two laps this afternoon in the AC Delco five hundred down the line. Green flag is out. And we're now the business. Schrader out of the inside tries to pull out get clear Slaney all by himself in turn want. He won't be able to do it. Trader answer those out in front of Davey Allison. But Allison is there with them on the outside lane Allen wick directly behind trailer off to we'll put a drag race in the end of the back straightaway to try and see who's going to lead the first lap. Alison fights back. Hard gets good charge. Attorney number three. He'll go wheel the wheel traitor off the corner, but Davies four drips high higher than two strangers machine. So Ken Schrader leads the first lap. Alison, second Kovalski third Elliott fort, then Jeff foe dine inside Harry can't for that. So that'll be pissed Harry Ganley outside he'll fall back so jeopardize advances that Whitney what underneath Harry, Gant this. Now, the battle for the six position Rudd can't get the jump this time, although get will be forced into the outside. Ru intern number three now Rudd's car slips a bit gamble down. And hold six you have to learn in a hurry, you need tuck in first opening there if you're caught in that outside groove and the field is keeps closing tighter tighter, do nothing but lose positions how petty is still hung out there. Trying to tucked his car in back in turn wide. He's alongside Ricky Rudd. Trying to pick up the spot on one coming off the quarter. What has the advantage bread moving down to the inside group will try and hold off teddy? But petty is strong the outside. He'll get the thing with the horsepower at the end of the back straightaway. Kyle petty up to seven Ken Schrader continues to lead Ernie urban is now caught the end of the field. Let's get an update from his pit area. The Anna, Nick. The Anna Nick to transgenders that takes the ignition from the battery and converts ending Nisshin system itself. There's two of them in a car one. I'm for backup for the other one and the first one the main went out all the news, just unplug one and plugging backup. But in this case, it was awful costly to him. So he'll play catch. But he's got plenty of time to it. If you're going to have a problem, the time to do it is at the very beginning of the race got the rest today to overcome it. They are now single file all the way back through about thirtieth position as they worked over the turn to trader leads the way his second about three Carling's back now Wicky alad Wicky holding down third. Then Bill Elliott fourth and Geoff Bodine v. Three four tightly together. Harry Gaddis six piled petty seven Ricky Rudd, eight hutch Strickland night than Rick bass tenth day. Learn hardest running an eighteenth position now behind him as rusty Wallace in teeth and that the Winston Cup point leader Mark Martin and twentieth. To those three cars tied tightly together. In the middle of the field is leaders worked turned to back around thirteen. Tars for dick trickle underneath the Dale Jarrett car he had a nose alongside now goes for it. Again. Try it down low on the back straightaway, trickle draws the Pontiac up alongside Jared sport. But Jared a little bit of extra strength at the end of the straightaway is able to close the door on trickle in four. Most of these drivers that have been to the North Carolina Motor Speedway over the years. No that you don't really start forcing things this early in the event in factor at least for the first couple of hundred miles as work back to turn to straighter is leader Davey. Allison rise. Second third is Allen Kalicki fourth is Bill Elliott and fifth Geoff Bodine, and it's single file all the way back among about the top twenty. And I guarantee you learn hard and Mark Martin glad to see that kind of traffic rather than door to door and three wide in the early going a number of the teams just seeing their cars. We basically pushing through the quarter as best they can while. The lead is still Ken Schrader. The battle for second place is joined between Koichi and baby. Amazon. Look he's got his four down to the inside of Davey. Allison allocates Nelson shoved out of the groove of the wickets the edge off turn to. But Alison gets it off the top side of the racetrack. Pulls those back out and brought up to Wicky. Now, he'll come down and try and shut the door of it'll turn poor racing. Hard in the early going. Just thirteen laps around the board. They'll complete fourteen this time around straighter takes a look behind him. Davey. Allison. Swung wide coming off the corner. Though, he wanted to put a move on thinks better of it. They go back to this time. Davey. Allison. Takes the outside lane pulls up tries to get up alongside the Kenny Schrader car now turn to Posey Chevra lay on the inside the fort and the outside the battle for the lead at the end of the back straightaway. Alison, clearly stronger at the end of the stretch pulls out in front and takes the lead. So we have a new leader here in the she Delco five hundred if you can hold off the challenge of Schrader Davison does leave this lap. And boy is that team ever turned the corner. After a lot of those nitpicky problems at Barney told you about earlier in the broadcast when a buck eighty five piece breaks takes eighty five thousand dollars race car along with it. It's been that kind of year. But here comes straighter challenging for the lead agains raiders get a look at the end side as they enter turn number three Davey gives him racing room. Try. The high group but traders car won't stick at the bottom. Threaded tries to pin it down there drifts up a little bit as they come out of the corner house, and we'll be able to hang onto the lead. Mark Martin is now moved up to nineteenth position he moved around Dale Earnhardt. They're just a moment ago. Earnhardt's car pushing in the turns going way high and both ends of this racetrack. So he has a handling problem in the early going. Let's go down to Pitsea from get a report there. I just talked to Richard children's guardian. He said exactly that he said the cars just too tight. It will not turn to the quarters. They're hoping for a cautious here early where they can make some adjusted to earnhardt's car is definitely pushing it had handling problems about the last three or four racist. Of course, most of the time they've been able to make pitstops and get them cured that just they haven't been hitting it on the numbers like they did earlier in the season. Here's a battle for the lead turn to data. The Allison trader tries to get hooked up on the Lou group. But Allison pulls it back out in front now Schrader locked, right? It on his bumper Alison grits high and three Schreyer's gonna try it again down low. This is the seventeenth flap of four hundred ninety two Schrader can't get the jump off the low side of the race track. You'll hang on to second. Let's establish though. Joe more the fact that Dale Earnhardt is not the only car that's ill handling here early. What a few cars going with the banking receive Jimmy means go way up almost to the outside wall. The car also fish tailing bit Darah wall going up high and Morgan shepherd just here roller states almost all to rear in his car kicked out. He's running high groups at the start of the race. And some of the cars that are back toward the tailing the having problems also Jimmy means almost from the opening gun has not been able to keep his car low through the turns at all he's real high and the alka-seltzer machine as the laps are only nineteen on the board here of the four ninety two that will make up the Delco five hundred inclusion today down the backstretch and in the turn of a three Davey Allison's. Got it. Hooped up pretty good. The loan Chevrolet fair. Among that front. Four cars is Kenny straighter straighter gets his car to the bottom of the racetrack. But it won't stay there. Right in the middle of the corner. He asked to free it up let it drift up a little bit unwise. He's gonna lose a position Alan to wick car on the other hand seems to be working extremely strong. He's been right there ticketing since the going back into as far as go single this time pulling around slower traffic as exit to moving single file now your front four Alison trader Kalicki and Bill Elliott going down to turn every three about a cart lake separating each dead about six car lengths back to Kyle petty, and Harry Gan goes fifth and sixth place seven places a good battle give it to Ricky Rudd on the low side of the race track. Use seven Geoff Bodine. Now runs an eighth place. Ninth belongs to Rick bass and ten this Dale Jarrett. Dick, trickle is eleven wealth belongs to Michael Waltrip in thirteenth spot. Now Terry Labonte fourteenth is Derek cope. Fifteen the mortgage shepherd. Car sixteenth is nine seventeen is strictly. Eighteenth is Mark. Mark Martin in the eighteenth spot. Then Sterling Marlin runs nineteenth. Rick Wilson's twentieth. Rusty Wallace will be twenty-first then Dale Earnhardt way back in the twenty second spot. Jimmy Hensley runs. Twenty-third good hard battle going on for second place, and Kenny Schrader may lose it. Alec. What he's got the spot come off turn to Wicky goes down to the inside. He bypasses the Kodiak Chevrolet. So put Kalicki up the second one car almost loses control on the back straightaway. That'll be the automobile being driven today by Mike Skinner. He gathered back up right in front of Geoff Bodine and he'll continue on twenty two laps now. Twenty three in the book says the leaders flash across the stripe. Davey Allison has been swapping the lead around without unkown Wicky and Ken Schrader. We told you earlier in the day that Ernie Irvine had to stop there on the pace lap this afternoon because of an ignition problem he has worked himself back up to twenty ninth spot with all forty starters still running here on the twenty-third laugh with Davey. Allison. A real scramble for its Jim bound, spins right? In front of Tommy kid, walks the highest Pontiac down all the way to the bottom of the racetrack. Now the battle will be who leads back to the caution flag. Well, there's no cautioned fly. But now it is here at comes in. It's will be Ken Schrader leaving Albuquerque and Davey. Allison. Back to the stripe a close, call there for both Tommy KENDALL, and Jim bound and turned number three. Let's go back to Alan best. With the two were racing bumper to bumper Jimmy bound was leading Tommy KENDALL when they come into the corner Jimmy bounce car broke loose on me. Locked all four wheels down and KENDALL did a good job to get his Chevrolet slowdown before piling into the side of Jimmy bounce car bounce lead to the bottom of the racetrack. Got it straightened around fired back up and drove on around. That was also a close. Call Eli for the leaders. They were right behind those cars getting ready to lap. The when that spin happened visited on the binders in a hurry in Jim bound is not new to this racetrack. Born a lot of folks you mentioned at the outset of the show. There's a story to tell and we'll get to that here. As soon as we cover this round of pitstops leaders make their way down the pit lane virtually everyone will stop let's go to Jim Phillips, dick, trickle. The braid on this independent road long with Jerry Labadze, Ricky Roddy, male Earnhardt as Chevrolet they go to the side. I gonna take all four tires on his automobile. Mark Mark is more though, Becky Chaffee judgment on the right side about governor turns away jock Borge jeopardy's also in for four tires and gasoline dig Merck's enters same way. Just before. Our thing again. Drop them as Harry Gant. Artist? They do pit on both sides of the race track. Here at the North Carolina Motor Speedway the top. Twenty six qualifiers pit on the front stretch everyone else's pitting in the back. Let's go over there to Winston Kelly. The fourteen minute on the back from getting more than jam police. Palese darling hall. Mccown ended out off of Bobby Helen barrel. Very pearson. Richard petty Jack Benny Jimmy bound has behind catch upon. No damage to that car. Rick Jeffries, Charlie Baker and Tommy KENDALL hall. Getting more tired than gasoline. And apparently Jimmy bile did lose allow in that spin up there in terms three and four Jimmy bound is the other half of the driving bound family. Chuck is the Busch Grand National series champion who clinched the honor here yesterday afternoon and the AC Delco two hundred but this has been a much talked about situation who would take over the driving of the Heinz ketchup Pontiac for ninety one and actually the change takes place here in nineteen ninety. Well, that was a kind of a shot for Jimmy Spencer. We understand talked to some of the crew members than he had expected to be in the car throughout the rest of the season when he showed up at the racetrack. He was informed that that was not the case had to be a big disappointment. For Jimmy Spencer course, he'll be going over to Travis Carter's team for nineteen Ninety-one. So let's wish him well in that new endeavor for Jimmy Spencer next weekend. M R an will be on the air. Even though the Winston Cup series takes the weekend off. We will be at martinsville speedway. In Virginia for the Winston five hundred classic. Our broadcast begins at one o'clock eastern time next Sunday. It's actually a tripleheader of racing of which we will cover two of the three races late model. Stock cars will get the triple header underway at twelve noon that our broadcast begins at one with both. The NASCAR Winston modified tour event and the Busch Grand National series season. Finale eilly told you the Bush series championship wrapped up here yesterday. But for the modified tour, they are still seven drivers who have a mathematical chance of winning the modified tour championship. Now, they do run today at Thompson speedway in Connecticut, where the points leader Jamie tomato has qualified fourth. But it seems virtually assured that the modified tour title will be settled next weekend. At the Winston five hundred classic in martinsville might want to join us there in person tickets do remain and they've already got some two hundred thirty three entries for the tripleheader there next weekend. And of course, the Winston Cup schedule wraps, up and FINA. Arizona November fourth with a checker five hundred and the Atlanta Journal five hundred at Atlanta international raceway on November the eighteenth. Because of these interesting racing here down the stretch. There really will be in that. What's the classic players is beautiful track. Next week. We're talking this morning. Clay is down here along with dick Thompson, the public relations director up there. And he said something to the effect that the field is so competitive up there that most promoters would just be tickled to death to have leftovers that don't make the show and have to go home. We're just looking at the rundown here. One hundred nineteen late model stock cars have checked in of which they have got two hundred and eighty six wins this year among those hundred nineteen cars at the different racetracks. They run fifty eight modified have already entered fifty six Busch Grand National teams have already entered show. It's gonna be quite a weekend. The modified qualify at two o'clock on Thursday. The grand nationals at three o'clock the late model stock cars at two o'clock on Friday show. That's what's taking place at martinsville next week. And we're just a half lap away from going back to green therefore. Coming up for the restarted fun of Alan Westwick lights are out atop the Pontiac grand prix safety car. Elbow Langley takes a hard left. Turn at the end of the backstretch pit area. He'll back that car in behind the safety wall into the end of the back straightaway. Darrell Waltrip who got gas only on his pit stop on the back straightaway. Because of the new blend in rule is the first car on the racetrack. He'll lead turnover for for the restart. It was a good move for Darrell Waltrip and also a good move for Dave, Marcus. I it never ceases to amaze me that day Marcus will stay out there particularly thinks it's going to be a long caution when everybody else's pitted lead lap and get five bonus points for leading up. We're under green Dera Walter takes off. And boy does he ever take off? He pulled away from Kenny Schrader by about four Carling's before they hit turn one out to Chevrolets up in Walter bench. Schrader followed by Ford of even the Dany Ellison down to the inside the lap car Jimmy bound being bypassed by the leaders. Now. Schrader Wicky Kyle petty all clearing the Pontiac. Darrell Waltrip, meanwhile, has a four car lake lead. Now is go off of four. Here's shredder now closing into within a car length and a half of the race leader further. Back. Many teams sorting themselves out through traffic. Walter leads. The thirty six lap across the stripe back at a turn one treaters their challenging the Davey. Allison goes to the outside of the track to challenge. Pile Betty hill slip back many advances and Ricky Rudd pulls alongside while at the front of the pack Reiter drops the Kodiak Chevrolet doubt of the inside of Darrell Waltrip tide Chevrolet Waltrip goes way up the racetrack Schrader goes by underneath. That's the opening. He was looking for. He's got Kenny Schrader goes back to the front of the pack. Waltrip? Meanwhile, get squeezed out now, Alan Tilleke, dive leonardy him, and they're only lose more than that one spot narrows fine to get back in line. But it can't he goes way up the banking. He will lose a spot petty advantage. Charlie Baker car pulls to the bottom of the racetrack. After what looks like a lot of smoke out of the engine of the car. Meanwhile, the battle will be back for about the fifth and sixth position Geoff Bodine will get that spot. Now, he'll try and go with Ricky Rudd under Darrell Waltrip we remain under green despite that plume of smoke from Charlie baker's car. He's going to the back pit area has the lead cars. Go back at a turn number one. Greater Liege as Waltrip again. Five's the banking. He'll lose more spots. Third. Ken Schrader continues to lead the Delco five hundred forty one laps in the books. Thirty nine of the forty starters are still on the race track. The one man who is not is with Winston Kellie jolly, beggar you, you're behind the wall went the problem. Come let go into motor powered working pretty good catnapping pursing blowing trying to court for a little bit. And I don't know. I just water. Kempter's spagnuolo pressure was good and going down there. Just went bang and filled with smoke and always doing Charlie Baker the first out of the rice haleiwa had a chance to talk with Jeff Hammond on the tide Chevrolet crew. And they said they were just going to roll the dice and see how it worked hitting here on the back straight away. Not getting any tires. They were in and out so fast. They were out before we did our spot back here. Didn't even see him come in. And get the fact that they were already back on the racetrack. They just wanted to see how they could win back in relation to the other car to buyers. A bit of early strategy move on Jim Hammond part. Well, our statistician here in score in the booth. Martha has been following that Darryl was leading on the restart on lap. Thirty three on lap forty four which we are. Now eleven laps later. He is running fifteen. So it may be a gamble. That is backfiring on the type team tires. Make a big difference here at the North Carolina Motor Speedway. Forty four laps are in the book right now at the photo pack. Kenny Schrader about five six Carling's behind him as Kyle petty. Allen, kooky is in third place. Geoff Bodine's fourth and Harry Gant finally wrestled at fifth-place away. And that's where he rides right now. Trouble turt- to Tracy Leslie's car spins in on coming traffic. He goes up to the outside. Retaining wall gets the cars. Stop before the traffic comes into the area. Here comes the leader. Now, just getting by Tracy Leslie requires the car and drives away that will put us under caution for the second time this afternoon, Tracy lesley's car went flying into that wall. And that will be the trouble spot more than likely for the better part of the day. We'll be down in turns one and two. We'll talk to some of the drivers about that. As. The day goes by forty six laps complete Tracy Leslie spending over intern number two for quick recap. Let's go back turn one lost it by himself coming into the corner. He was way up in that high groove born in the car spun around swapped in almost made contact with the wall, but he got the car bound up before it hit the outside wall. Again, he refired the car and drove away cleanup efforts our concluded down and one or two for Tracy lesley's machine where it spun just a moment ago, but he will be able to continue and we're getting ready to go back to green flag racing. The leader still Kenny Schrader apparently nobody wanted to make it onto pit road that time so all the front runners stay right out there on the racetrack. The lap cars only going to be a couple of those dropping down to the inside. Rick Jeffries will be the first one up there as they get ready to go back to green Schrader at the point Kyle petty writing second third is Allen Kalicki fourth is Jeff Bonein fifth right now. Harry Gant Davey Allison has dropped back to six seventh is Ricky Rudd and we are under green flag racing conditions. Once again as they take off return one, it's writer. A good jump on the restart gets away by couple of Carling's. But that's all how Pettis their baby the guy to look out for. He started six and his work his way up to the second spotty sparing. Donald trader all turn to verse challenge is going to be they'll for fourth and fifth. Spot is Harry Gant has it and Davey. Allison wants it. Get download Davey Allison taking the high group you'll have to fall in line single file this time by further back. Many of the cars picking their way to the high side of slower machines, a stop and go penalty on Jeff Purvis as he jumped the restart. The battle of the now's and turnover one. I'll bet he's got his Pontiac white down at the bottom of the racetrack. Get Schrader is held up on a slower car crazy, Leslie Kyle petty will take the lead as they come down the back straightaway. Tracy Leslie's car will be the outside group. So straighter. We'll go single file out of the inside of the racetrack. Cool Wicky still holding onto third. Kyle petty told me yesterday if we could hit any kind of the same setup we had back you're in March. We can do the same thing we did. And said it's unlikely that we will find a combination we had boy that is not the case. Four hundred thirty three laps led here back in the spring race. Today. He just suddenly comes out of nowhere and goes to the front of the pack hitting return three right now. Running single file through the front five six seven eight cars now all the way back through the tenth position Morgan shepherd running. They're trying to get around Ricky Rudd and between turns three and four all the lead cars having to make an invasive moved to the high side of Tracy, Leslie, drives, the Detroit gasket car, you're the afternoon further back Sterling Marlin on the move now as he picks off car after car to the inside doing it again in the corner gets by Rick vast outdraws Bill Elliott here. I'll turn to down the back straightaway. He'll look down of the inside out of the outside as they go. They'll fall single file is Elliott gets good right off the corner and actually pulls out a couple of cartilage as they move into poor Tracy, Leslie is right up in that front pack. He's not running for the lead. But apparently, no damage on that car, then maybe flat spotting some tires. He did lose a couple of apps. So he's going to try and get back up there and get at least one of those back. If possible Kyle petty is the leader straighter ride seconds to Carling's back about three more Carling's back rods. Alec the Wikki overturned three. Good battle shaping up now for the. Fifth sixth seventh and eighth positions. Geoff Bodine's there. Followed by Davey. Allison, Ricky Rudd and Morgan shepherd those four cars running under a blanket off of turn four wargin shepherd really came on to run. Well after the first of this race after fifteen or so lapped read the book his car really began move. We'll see whether is able to locate that here on this run of green flag Racing League car. Kyle petty works off the back straightaway torch three and again, still watching this battle for fifth position on back as the front four begin to string it out just a little bit watching Jeff boat. I try and hold the fifth spot with Davey. Allison. Looking to make a challenge for the best grambling's going on right now, I've been at the front of the pack in the early going now back about seventh eighth and ninth positions were all the door to door and diving underneath somebody's going on lady. Alison wants to move up. Not sodas Ricky Rudd there over in two hundred jet blue car directly ahead slammed the door. Here's the exit turn to vote on holding tough. Now as he maintains a good firm line out of the inside of the turns here and turn three and four vote. I again, puts the Budweiser four down to the bottom of the track. And atlas. Can't do anything with him at the same time. Ricky Rudd is trying Davey Allison to the low side of the race track. Through the quarters in particular, unable to make it work. Go here on the fifty fifth leftish afternoon deals wings back to the south end speedway. Kyle petty setting the pace we talked to him yesterday about bringing the same setup back that they were so totally dominant with back in March. Is it possible to do that and make it work? Again, you come back with the same car in the same springs in the same Motors and pretty much the same stuff. But you know, the weather's different attracts six or seven months older Goodyear's change the tires a little bit. They've added a little bit of rubber to it. And maybe give us a little bit more stagger with with these radios this time down here. So, you know, things change, and you know, the day we had here in March is just a perfect day. And that's all you can say about it, and you know to come back and hit something, right? Like that. It doesn't make any difference. If we came back on Monday, we might have been all we came back on TV. We might have been right again. So it's just one of those deals where we had the perfect car on the perfect day and everything worked, but you come back with within mine hoping that what? If you had the first time at work, the second petty setting a pretty blistering pace for the rest of the field to keep up with and right now, he's beginning to pull away from second-place. Kenny Schrader by about twenty-five Carling's there over and turn three mile petty with a good gap. Now on trader who's got about six or seven colleagues on Alan that another ten back to Harry, Gant that a couple of seconds back today. The Allison v that your top five with Ricky Rudd running in six Bill Elliott goes seven eight is now Sterling Marlin he's broken away from ninth place, Dale Earnhardt by about seven car lanes tenth this Ernie urban and backpedaling to eleven at this point is Geoff Bodine. The Budweiser for not running quite as dominating lease. It was earlier right behind Jeff poed. I'm Rick mast and Morgan shepherd or the good side by side paddle on the backstretch a slug it out down to the end of the straightaway with Rick bass out of the inside shepherd, though is going to get that spot of the outside. Now, intern three car washes layup, national try it again. Rick mass tries to get down to the bottom of speedway and make that car stick there. And it does as they come out of the corner Morgan shepherd. Meanwhile, all. Day long has been getting good lap times. But he's been drifting really high in both ends of the speedway. And we see this a lot when we go to Dover, Delaware, the other one mile speedway on the circuit that sometimes you free car ups let it drift off in there and stay in the fraud will keep the RPM's up and still take the long way around the racetrack. But come up with his lap times as the leader in that case today Morgan shepherd's finding is working pretty well for him. But Geoff Bodine's very obvious that car not handling at all through the corners. They continue to slide back. Let's see if we can get a report down on pit road. That juniors talking to a couple of about what they're going to do about it. We'll get with tuner just in a minute. What have backward area? I'm sure the folks in the type Chevrolet pits also concerned as to how Darrell Waltrip is running back in twenty ninth position. Now Winston Kelly. We're standing in Petco with Japan, and Jeff it was a very good. He called or not came. But it doesn't seem to paint all run out with and it really did. Coming out against later. We went back out. Fires when it cooled off whatever. I'm back. Around. I would get a cost with all the head. What earlier debate on a back? We didn't your chance to get in and get them off. So hopefully, we'll get one here quick. Japan and the crew chief on Daryl the story there. They wanted to come during that flag, the Tracy Leslie brought out, but there wasn't enough time sitting here on the back right away. And they back pedal all the way back division giving idea. How strong Kyle piteous running. He has almost straightaway over fifth-place, Harry, Gant and wack in that six place run, which is strong cars back there in the form of Ricky Rudd and Davey Allison. Barney of a little over six and a half seconds. Trouble on the back straightaway. Barney Tracy Leslie's car has gone up in smoke trailing flames and smoke out from behind the car. He gets down off the banking down of the inside the flames now extinguish themselves, but Tracy Leslie losing a motor big time on the back straightaway. Nascar observers are checking the area behind the race car to see whether Leslie as putting anything down on the race track and all seems to be clean and green. He will be heading directly to the garage area. So our attrition list. Now, Charlie Baker who left with an engine failure earlier and now, Tracy, Leslie. With apparently the same problem on the Detroit casket machine, they Tracy Leslie good-looking race car driver. He was taken under the wing of AJ, four points, not long ago and has driven AJ's Copenhagen Oldsmobile when Foyt had other commitment to them Bacar competition show on if you get that man's vote of confidence you've done something and Tracy Leslie is going to be a a force particularly next year in which national competition. Not a lot of folks have been looking over her lot of callers talked about him that somewhere down the road. He may end up with a good ride over here. The best race on the speedway will be for six positions. Four cars tied up in that little tussle as work over to turn free and back near the four. They be Allison currently being shown in the six place white behind him as Bill Elliott down to the inside comes Ricky Rudd and Sterling Marlin is also a part of that force as they work back to turn one day. The Allison had race side by side for about five laps battling for the six. Pot. Finely David got to pick up the position. Now. Bill Elliott, Ricky Rudd Goto off turn to Elliott will. Hold that spot for now though as he gets the better rug out back straightaway. So we'll put Alice to six Elliot seven Marlin Rudd will battle for eight the night Stirling working awfully well in the most side of the race track. His Oldsmobile just sneak around the inside of Ricky Rudd Chevrolet to take over the position here on the seventy third lap. But all the while the lead is still held by Kyle petty is Barney told you earlier Kyle led four hundred thirty three of four hundred ninety two laps here at Rockingham back in March of this year. Let's go downstairs to the pin and garage area was in junior Johnson's bid. Jeff and Tim brewers that you're just talking him along Tim guys that. Not code in. One day. Magana heart all week every time we run. Little bit better that right here. Just completely got away. Defend a heartbreaker yesterday. They had a pit crew contests here, and they lost it by something like ten one hundreds of a second or Tim one thousands of a second free trip a bunch of guys some stuff and plus the prestige to win enough thing. So today, they're not in the best mood either. We've got cautioned on the speedway as Jeff Purvis has apparently lost an engine out in front of Alan Beswick smoke coming out from under the car at the end of the back straightaway ally he dropped some liquid on the race track. The car started to go around on him. But he did a wonderful job to keep it from going around and keep it from getting into the outside wall as well. So perhaps nominee for the cool move of the day there for Jeff Purvis bit road. Busy place. Let's go. Dick brooks. Back down and got it. First one out by. Pretty bunch. They they're really pumped at this racetrack. Allen quick was in a change four tires. This cars Bill. Kyle petty Geoff Bodine a temporary was really looking flag. They got one. We'll see if it done any good with this time car. Rusty Wallace was in filled him up with gasoline and putting tires and in bars back on a racetrack Jim Phillips, we're the garage area with Tracy Leslie, Tracy, you're hoping to finish this race today. But a short day for you. What happened? Well, I don't know. I just coming down the front stretch Detroit. Gasket olten. Backed off throttle getting in the one that just it just broke in is seen Darryl was behind me. And I tried to bring it down best. I could I was hoping he didn't get into it. 'cause I'd hate to ruin somebody else's day. But you know, we got behind their little bit. When I slid sideways and luckily didn't get into the fence and come in head put a couple tires on dropdown lap. But the car was running good. You know, when you pull in behind the leaders there after they went by that green thing was running fine. You know, Elvin all Detroit gasket Bush crew was crew in the car today, and they did a super job short day today. But you got good things for your nineteen Ninety-one this team. Well, yeah. You know, I'm happy to say that I'll be back with Detroit gasket only and the Bush rayson and I'm looking forward to a good year. And I'm I'm hoping we have a lot of success, that's Tracy, Leslie, he's out of here this afternoon. Let's go to the back fits in Winston Kelly. This time Starling Marlin was the first driver in and out Darrell Waltrip and his crew did get four tires. This time starting at moved all the way up to the physician. He got four tires was followed out. Of the pit by Jack Pennington who is back in now. Tony far in the crew looking underneath that Oldsmobile looking under the hood, Bobby hill and also with four tires along with Larry Pearson. Ted must gray Richard petty and the rest of the teams on the back straightaway pit all getting four tires and gasoline. We've been seeing some of the best pitstops in recent weeks that we've witnessed all season long. We talked about some of the stops at the but wiser team made this year some of the stops at the Bill Elliott team had made. And how quick they were Travis Carter and his guys did a heck of a number right there North Carolina Motor Speedway and Rockingham. Eighty laps or complete a four ninety two. I'm ally gold alongside Barney hall Joe Moore and Alan best with cover. The turns for us today are pit work from Jim Phillips. Dick Brooks Winston Kelly are engine ears are Harry Howard. And clay stall cook glad you're with us for the AC Delco five hundred we talked about a great bit of pitch service moments ago that Travis Carter in the crew gave to Rick mast mass. Now second behind Kyle petty. Let's go to dick Brooks. Well, they did. A heck was stop. I guess yesterday. Got a lot of people pumped up. But the also only did two tires on the car to Travis tell you about that Travis wanted you do that. We wanted to have an option to get a little closer to the front. First of all Secondly, we won't see how well he could run with tired. You know, you're gonna have great plaques. Stop problem his racing and as stategy unfold late racist factor. Let your mind that's some kind of strategy. It'd be going to do it as a pretty good time to do it. I think yesterday's race proved that maybe that's not the best thing to do toward the end of the race. But it may work here. And it will give them a lot of information on how the cars going to run their right? They probably will have some green flag stops and this'll give them a judgment ahead of everybody else's to what's going to happen. Well, they've been really trying to sort that car out and get things going season. Winds down to get ready for nineteen Ninety-one forming up for restart over and turn three safety car. The grand prix Pontiac pulling off down to the entrance to the back straightaway pit area. Backing behind the wall. Kyle petty will lead the field. Followed by Rick mast and Ken Schrader. The lap cars doubt of the inside being led by Chad little Jim boun saw lot of chassis adjustments going on this round of pitstops under caution. So we may see some of the cars have been sliding back a little bit. Suddenly be able to get up to the front of the pack and maybe challenge for the lead double file restart as they worked out on the start finish line. Kyle petty pretty dominant here for about the last four fifty laps. We're under green is take it back to term in the one. Now, the break he'll get away from Rick mass by some three links goes with the outside of the chat little car pin. Shredder now working to the outside of Jim bound, the wicked Harry outside land Chad little slide in between. Rick Nash than Ken Schrader. Now, we'll go to the outside and clear the lap traffic soon out your front three are clear sailing off of turn four as far as Dale Earnhardt? He's running in the seventh spot right now with Mark Martin Porsche out there working his way up through race traffic as well. He is eighteen on the race track on this particular restart either man, neither Earnhardt nor Mark Martin as level app. Here the chaperone so still forty-nine point separating the two. Of course, the position differences. We see on the race track. Kyle petty continues to pull away here in a hurry on the restart. Rick mass doing a job right now. Hanging on to second place with Ken Schrader, hounding them away. Challenge will be for second. As crossed the start finish line freighters going after the number two spot in turn wash. Or sees a light open down on the inside of Rick bass bass goes way, up the Bank, and you return one Schrader comes up alongside Schrader will drag race. Rick mast out of the end of the back straightaway. Mass looking stronger the outside but trainer will get second spot. Now mass may lose third and fourth is Allen poet, and Harry Gad looked at the bottom side while all that's Bramley going on back there for second place. Kyle petty has opened up about a half the straightaway in some two and a half laps on the rest of the field. That'll give you an idea of just how strong his car is there. Back in two. Meanwhile, Rick fast elusive positions Allen who Wicky gets by Harry, Dan, also moved out of the inside. So the four tires proving out better than the two masked having trouble keeping the car low as the editors sweeping banks of turn number three. Again, the Chevrolet will skip her up the racetrack on him. And he'll have trouble with Bill Elliott. This time talk about skittering up the racetrack. Darrell Waltrip lost five positions on this very last lap. He was heading out towards the golf course at Pinehurst before he ran up upon that outside retaining wall, and he really had to whoa. The car down and lost five positions. In the meantime to the garage area. Jim Phillips with Jeff Purvis, Jeff Purvis. You this Chevrolet. What happened has coming down the back straightaway? The motor is let go broke rod or. This was a track out there today. View raises. I've run my car felt like if if we had a few more pissed off weak- did a car running pretty good. They might they make us stop and go for some reason. I don't really know what the problem was. But the card infill real bad. I feel like if I had a little bit more time with Dr together car running good Joan Jett Purvis. He will not finish this afternoon. The code five hundred got a lot of grinding talent. I think that team they're hoping to get things really turned around and be a factor in the year. Nineteen Ninety-one one member of championships in dirt competition over the years. He has run well of the all pro series has been running the house car if you will for Neil Bonnett racing out of Alabama. And now with Neil one of the owners of the racing team. They've moved collectively with the car on of Frankie grill among others into Winston Cup competition. Eighty nine laps on the board. Kyle petty continues to Leach Reiter, second Kalicki, third Gant fourth Elliott deaf Earnhardt, six thirty urban seventh. Davey Allison eight Ricky reddish knife. And running in tech. Now is Rick mashed let's go to the head area where we have update on. Why Dale Jarrett has made some repeated pitstops in the wood brothers Ford. Dick Brooks dog about strategy earlier. And they came in the car was a little bit looseness said are for the people that don't understand. Most means a car wants to spin out the rear once on the outside of it. So they said. The good time to make Tassie adjustment. They're just Jack. And wait around as you heard before they put rubber Spicer sometimes in the spring. Let's not something as simple thing to do putting it in. It's pretty simple taking it out. But they went ahead and put a half a rubber spacer in the right front spring. That does it changes the the actual recoil of the spring itself. It doesn't that? It's awesome. But it also makes it a different kind of stiffness the mix it harder to push initially give car little more as you go off in the corner. Hold more weight over on the rare and it helped whole right front up. So I said it's good time to do it. It's got a caution black this track. Stay in pretty cool today. And they felt that the car was that away. Now they wanted to make the adjustment. And then work it out and staggered. They'll tear it currently is being shown in twenty fourth position from the North Carolina Motor Speedway. This is em are in radio. While the leaders are kind of spaced out around here at the racetrack. Why don't we take a minute to talk with the president of the North Carolina Motor Speedway. Frank Wilson has just stepped into our booth. Mike just looking out the wind at the crowd. You have here. I I'm going to speculate. This may be the biggest group of and you've ever had any candidate here at this racetrack while it is by far, and you nor are really regret that Mr. Witt gets. Well, we were about to talk to you about Mr. Witt for folks who followed Gracie a lot of race fans know that mister wit died a few weeks ago or a week ago and not many people that really didn't know the man have no idea what he contributed this sport. He was president here from what in the early seventies. It was a factor in this racetrack even from bay. Well, he was in the group that originally started in Cambridge from nineteen seventy two and all the plan of a few years later. I think it's amazing to and you talk about the man's business ability because you know, we're talking here among friends, and being very honest. This was not always if for no other reason because of bad weather. This was never for a while a successful business proposition, even at Lanta under Mr. which leadership at Dover couple out of problems, whether wise and so on and yet all of a sudden, those two facilities Rockingham Atlanta, turn into show places racing. And I think he is deserving the credit because a lot of other men would let the projects go by the wayside. And we'd be sitting here looking at an old parking lot now or something. He was the top of person that the absolutely would not give up on anything. He headed in his mind. And he proved that he could make it work and any DEA Mr. DeWitt will be sorely missed by a lot of folks racing in a lot of fans who never knew him talk to quick minute about every time we come here. Like, they're more new seats added their seats continue to just spray it around. You got any plans to add some more than before we come back here in March wet, we probably won't have it for March. We plan to have additional seats by October. A nice deal to and you can weigh racing's going into building seats in their sold before they're even built in place. This is no exception. Pretty one of these days. We'll see race tracks with seats all the way around of insure Rockingham. We'll be right in there with everybody. We're going to try to keep up. Mister DeWitt so attitude toward building in this place. And we having their mind to continue their one thing. I want to talk about two before we get back to the pit area one element of Mr. dewitt's involvement in racing confetti touched on was car ownership and team ownership whether it was Benny Parsons as driver from up the road and l'herbe or whomever. It might have been L. Gene wit also was on the active participants side of the sport as a car owner. Yes. The was on par seventy two and he thoroughly Joe a dead. He young. He didn't sure didn't play golf anything that was his relaxation. And he was started because lactic mini series like has done a heck of a job here at this racetrack over the years as he said, I think some lesser men might have said the heck with this and went into some other endeavors, but this is turned out to be one of the finest racetracks circuit. Folks Welby committed for it. But we appreciate it. And we would like to say thanks to the fans because they're really the ones that that make and without them will we would be here. We will have the opportunity. That's very true. That's Frank Wilson. The president of the North Carolina Motor Speedway. Let's go to the pits and dick Brooks. I was going to say about. Years ago as everybody was trying to get racing going and Mr. to kind of up over this racetrack, and what have you? He didn't have a race car along time to tell you what kind of a strong will what kind of blazer he was he ran a couple races here under another socio name. It wasn't NASCAR. But it was another socio name and one time he asked me to drive his car for while. I did. And we wanna race. We -ation had a little dispute of it. And one of the record members of that association was selected to be the winner that day, but to do it to be settled up. We're going to build a great organization here. We've got a great racetrack year. People are not going to tell us how we're going to run it. They will never be back again. And that's strongly. He felt about what he thought was right and wrong. And I gotta say. I'm very very sorry to hear what happened to mR went last weekend. I was saddened to hear said he will be sorely missed in this business. He did an awful lot for it. They've e Allison is off the pace that happened over coming off turn to Davey. Allison just pulled out of the inside the car without power a tough break for the Havilland Ford. Alison now heading for pit road. P is on pit road will keep around him to see what happens on TV, Alison he'd been running eighth just before whatever. The problem is on his car now brings him to the pits. Let's follow him down pit road. And see what the problem is. Let's go to hit road. Not running into going into the hood at very costly in his problem like happened during his phone by the minute. They're looking in the wind of the car went crewmen about halfway crawling inside the car about three or four more are looking underneath the hood of that machine. Whatever the problem is. It is not good for Davey. Allison as we said we first came on the air. They certainly had the momentum in their corner in the last few weeks. Good consistent finishes and winning over at Charlotte Motor Speedway today. They've got a problem. They came back, of course with the outside front row starting spot here this afternoon, but it's not to be Davey. Allison right now, the hood is still up on the Texaco Havilland Ford. One hundred eleven labs are aboard. Kyle petty just continues to wear out the field here at the North Carolina Motor Speedway and Rockingham. Ken Schrader is running second next in line is Adam Cole. Vicky with Ernie urban now running up to fourth spot after the problems with the ignition system on the pace lap today. And Harry Gant runs in fifth the true value Har. Charger award being led by Ken Schrader at this juncture of the afternoon on lap number one twelve and if you're keeping tabs on the attrition list this afternoon, we have four drivers out of the race at this juncture all with engine failure. Charlie Baker, Tracy, Leslie, Jeff Purvis and most recently Ted must grave taking his car to the garage area. With another engine failure Davey. Allison car continues to sit on pit road. They have the hood up. They worked on it. They pushed it a few feet. Like there may be trying to get it to fire. Let's get of dick rooks. Got it ran a they don't know for sure what wrong with Robert Gates, the engine biller, which is very very capable of. Diagnosed engine promise that new with both hands over the exhaustive thing was missing, but they had a coil late after going to change the oil and Vanak probably wasn't a problem. But they were working on a battery start at the battery was dead on it, though, they pushed him off the starting and then I'm going to bring him back around spec. In and see if they can find out what it is Robert Gates standing here. Talking to him right now. Steve I'm gonna word, rob. Well, he's talking today. So they'll be back in a minute. What mine not good news for Davey? Allison fans. The car made one lap around the racetrack came back of the speedway and is now back on pit road. And dick. They're not really sure what the problem is already. Dead or doesn't have much fire in it. Decided talked to knuckles decided not to put coil on it. But now they're gonna air cleaner going on again. In fact, they're going to change carburetors on guard off, but another one on a little bit sad here y'all forced me in that today. I have to pull this number ninety money worse than he does here. He said bit row goes it is tough. Meanwhile, Kyle petty got himself caught up in some race traffic moments ago. What happened three and two tenths second lead. Over second-place Ken Schrader has now down to a second and a half hut. Kyle petty is worked his way free of race traffic now at begins to pull away. One more time close call for Kyle here at Kirk black scared of running directly, I head of and like vampire going down through the car, although sideways as was just making his booth behind that car invasive move down to the inside of the track cleared, the car very obvious now that he has broken free of that lab traffic that he still has the handling capability to get around this racetrack already. He is pulled away even more on tennis raider. Although the traffic factor made a big difference to allow straighter close up some of the daylight between the two now again, Kyle petty with clear sailing directly ahead as he moves over to Joe more Joe he's pulling away already again. He's again. Car separating himself in the second place park petty Schrader mild petty now approaching his father Richard about a half a straightaway. Separating the two before he'll put Richard a lap down. Looking behind Ken Schrader a good distance back to the urban car. Kalicki and Harry Gant also separated by about fifteen or twenty Carling's one of the quicker cars of the race track. Now is Ernie Irvan. Remember he made that unscheduled stop on the pace lap today. Because of the ignition problem worked himself back up the fourth spot at just a lap and a half ago went to the inside of Alan Koichi grant third place away from Koichi now's pulled away from Alan by some eight or nine Carleen, so Kyle petty leads with straighter second Ernie urban now up into the third spot. Meanwhile, back in the garage area Tet musk grave has retired for the afternoon with them as Winston Kelly early afternoon. What problem well motor here today? Pretty. Clinton huger with the cut competition for the rest of this year nineteen ninety one well joint being under. But annoying. No driver. Ted must break out of this afternoon. Just a little over one hundred and twenty five miles in the book here this afternoon. The Tricia rates not been all that high seems like when a car start really dropping the wayside a little past the halfway point. So far only four cars shown out Charlie Baker, Tracy, Leslie, Jeff and Ted must grave heard from there. Just a moment ago continuing just dominate this race pretty much like he did in March here Kyle petty here he comes off turn of four he'll be catching his father, Richard petty. Who's won many many times here at the North Carolina speedway. And as a hit the front straightaway across the start finish line already case freighters now just about a half a straightaway behind so Kyle petty is really setting pace that nobody can keep up with these off turn number two and heading for three Kyle petty moving down the back straightaway. All by himself a good distance of lab traffic. He will be distance between himself after he clears father, Richard watching the battle back for the six position rusty Wallace. Dale Earnhardt, really go. It added about the last four or five laps. They approach the entrance to turn over three right now. And Wallace is going to get that spot away for. Dale Earnhardt and four Dale Earnhardt Chuck into that position behind rusty Wallace. And just ahead of Ricky read. Meanwhile, Mark Martin is still situated back in seventeenth place with twenty four cars on the lead lap at this juncture of the afternoon. One hundred twenty eight laps aboard of four hundred ninety two. If you're just joining us, we've had a total of three caution flags this afternoon, Jim bound and Tom kindle got together on the twenty ninth laugh, Tracy, Leslie, spun on lap, number forty five had Jeff Purvis lost Benton his machine on the seventy fifth lap, and that has been at otherwise clean and green here in the early stages of the AC Delco five hundred quickest lap of the day. So far was the second lap of the afternoon. Ken Schrader at one hundred forty three point nine four three miles an hour. So he leaves the Holly farms lickety-split award at this juncture the afternoon one hundred thirty laps. In tile now has almost a full straightaway over second-place Kenny Schrader is he heads back down to turns one to a chance to talk with. Kyle lately, he's been in the best mood. I've seen him in a long long time if your race fan and keep up with this business, you knew that Kyle attempted to have a singing career two years ago and he had several business interests including owning a car dealership, but at the beginning of the season he gave up singing career is sold off most of his businesses. And I asked him the other day. I said was that the right decision to make did you do the right thing. I think I have just by the way, we run, you know, it's hard to really say, you know, you sit back and you look at that stuff while you're doing it. And you say, well, it's not really taken up much of my time. You know, what in running that? Well, and then all of a sudden, I quit doing start running real good. You know, nothing that took a lot of that off my mind also at the same time. I start quit doing a lot of that stuff. I wanted to stain went I've gone, Gary, and John and Felix and this crowd, you know, that a lot to do it too. So, you know, there were a lot of lot of outside extenuating circumstances that that show are beginning to show up. It looks like I'm running real good because I don't do a lot of that other stuff. But I think that's a large part of it, anyhow he said it really took away from his concentra-. She didn't realize how much did even if. Just doing some minor things only business and just going to it now. And then it's got it's gotta take away from your tension. The racing. And I think he's seen a big difference. We certainly have your tower the way he's been running. Let's go to pit road. Earlier you said just before the race that Allison may get get their act together because fifteen and stuff was taken out of eighty thousand dollar range bar just happened again. To butter five staff inside the carburetor that works with Ronald nicotine. That's what opens up a draw boys or that or the champagne self. There's a inside of there. There's a little disc and then opens up, and that's what allows the feel in the air next an end. In that shaft on one of the side of the carburetor busted off. That's not a twenty nine cents. That's probably a buck and a half. But it's cost him any chance to win today. Posting twenty laps down exactly twenty laps down as the word from Mars Metcalf. Nascar timing and scoring Davey Allison's. Folks, really felt that he had a chance at winning the race year. Today course, Kyle petty is rented that a moot point. So far the way he's been running. Dave is obviously not going to win this afternoon. Sitting some twenty laps in rears. One hundred thirty five laps around the board. Kyle petty continues to lead Ken Schrader is second Ernie urban third. Alan Kubicki, and Harry GATT round out the top five travel over in turnover. Three Larry Pearson came into the entrance to the corner all by himself. The back end of the car broke out on locked all four wheels down spun halfway through the quarter and down out of the safety abor without contact with another car or the retaining wall. He sits fired up and got back on his way. But we're now under caution caution here. North Carolina Motor Speedway, and pitstops recurring. Let's go down Jim Phillips. They learn art as its Chevrolet, Ed. They put on four tires ended up with Unocal gasoline. Ricky Rudd is the lava Terry Labonte mortgage Jefford, Mark Martin is the area that changed. Now, he is down in a way dick trickle in Ricky Rudd and Jimmy Hensley on this in the pit role. Nick brooks. I don't know how we ever. Did. It didn't look nurse bad out in the cars as it does from here seen two cars, Harry, and Lord, I don't wanna other cars blue car, whatever it was like run together on pit road. I don't know how they missed each other. But gins writer Mick mass, Ernie urban Geoff Bodine, Kyle petty Bill Elliott, Alan quickey in rusty Wallace. Sitting out on this end all got four tires Bill up with fuel and someone they made it back on a racetrack. The race off pit road will be won by Kyle pity. Gary Nelson that team really doing a great job for him today. Let's go to the back bits and Winston Kelley tires gasoline for all the teams here on the back straightaway. Bobby hill in Darryl. Walter Barry Pearson came in he got four tires and gasoline, no damage to the Chevrolet, Richard petty with a close call leaving the pits bypassing Jimmy means also Jim bound, Jack Pennington, Starling Marlin. I'll getting four tires and gasoline were just talk about what a great break that was Mark Martin. Because a few more laps at the pace. Kyle petty been setting Mark would have been a lap down. He was about to go elapsed down. So this turns out to be a super. From ARCO is still running in seventeenth position. At last check their Walter. Meanwhile way back at the tail end of the field's not been a real good day for Darryl. He led a couple of apps this thing and took off in the early going with since that time they've had some handling problems on the car hundred forty one laps are now being shown on the scoreboard. They get ready to put it back under green tile, petty right back at the front of the pack. Davey Allison twenty laps. Now. The first lap car down inside green is up. They take it back to turn one. He said to the second spot directly behind betting on that outside lane. Harrogate is third fourth skinny trader now earning debut. Allison, try to hang tough out of the inside, but Kyle petty and Alan Kalicki. We'll both bypass them day markets will also battle with Allison as well. As Marcus tries to get past Allison four dryers. He might add on Kubicki just couldn't stay with the jump that. Kyle petty got on the restart. Meanwhile, Ken Schrader will take matters into his own hand. And you'll try to bypass a couple of slower cars to the inside as others went to the outside. But no one can keep up with Kyle petty. Petty now awful turnover too separates himself from second-place Wicky by about ten car. Links already get is right tucked on public back bumper then a pretty good distance back to shredder who's moved into third. Good battle back there for second place. Allen Kalicki trying to hold off Harry Gant now if you've been here to Rockingham over the years, you know, that this has been one of Harry Gant best race cracks at one time. He was he ran second. So many times in a row coming here. But it's a good track for Harry, I wouldn't count him out to win here today. Either been good battle back there for fourth place. Also between Ernie urban and KENNY'S freighter s- Reiter goes after turn three Ernie urban put the move on traitor last time by down the front straightaway. Now, he's beginning to pull away from trader Schrader can't seem to get the car hooked up off the bottom of the corner. So Kenny closes in on urban further back of squeeze play as Ricky Rudd, and Richard petty nearly got together chat little and Terry Labonte car. Also there has we are one hundred forty five laps into the four hundred ninety two laps here at Rockingham. Kyle petty continues to pull away with the battle for second between Allen colicky and. Harry Gant wheel scramble going on out of turn to and that will be for the second spot. Alad Kalicki tried to hold off a hard charger. Harry Gant Gant wanted to look to the low side, but he ran up on the lap car of Jim bounded had to fall back in line may open the door for Ernie Irvan now as he is closed in on the rear deck of Harry gas machine. All of this is some two and a half three seconds behind the leader. Kyle petty co Wicky is in second Gant is third trying to hold off Ernie Irving's challenge in turn one point two nose of his car right down the inside of the track to pull alongside Harry Gant. But will not be able to do at this time again in the also Beal running third urban and the Chevrolet running fourth and try to look out of the inside of Ganic this time in three gets lips up. Here comes down to the bottom Ernie Irving's had a good run this year. But a couple of times team has been off. They want to win another race before the season is out. Harry Gant doesn't want him even hang onto that position as go back into turn one and he slows let's go to pit road. I don't know what it was. He started slow down. I didn't know you not. But I find out only Irvine now back up to speed drops in on the tail end of that three. Draft back in turn three Ernie urban falling back behind Gannon Ken Schrader seems to be wound up to top speed is hanging right onto Schroeder's back bumper that might have also opened the bit of a chance for Bill Elliott a two-time winner at Rockingham. When Ernie Irving's slowed allows Elliot to close in with an eight or nine car late up that three card draft battling pack and turn one. Elliott's air at the six position. Now, he watches Ernie Irvan directly ahead go to the outside Schrader again in the battle urban try and pull up alongside traitor. Kenny will give him racing room in the outside and Ernie. We'll get the spot easily Schrader just moves over waves on by so Schrader drops back one Sunday morning. I said earn here coming off the Turner was doing fine, and it just cut off and fired again hasn't missed since. So. It's gonna problem with a couple of cars here they aren't urban had that problem before the race. Even started this afternoon brought the car on the pit road. And they went inside and crop head an electrical nation problem on the machine. Davey Allison car to shut down a time or two. They're also we said so strange day here at the North Carolina Motor Speedway one hundred and fifty two laps being posted on the scoreboard. Kyle petty showing the rear of his car to everyone else and have been for most of the afternoon. He goes back into turn one fifteen Carl lead over Allen Wicky. He's got about ten colleagues. Over Harry, Gant, then at tightens up a bit Ernie Irvine up on his bumper. Kenny Schrader about three Carl vine that battle trader now holding down the fifth position. Now, ten car lengths back from trader is Bill Elliott, then comes Dale Earnhardt and seventh. Rusty Wallace running eighth running in the nightspot is Morgan shepherd and Ricky rod is ten a real spirited battle going on between the Bo DyN brothers further back in the field and Sterling Marlin they're running back around thirteenth fourteenth and fifteenth spot sterling moments ago, tried to make an inside. Pass on rep poed what's able to pull it off and not to back off because sterling nearly took both he and Brett out of the race. So they'll settle back in single file here has still rather early in the running of the AC Delco five hundred on the move Ernie urban between three and four he'll make a move to the inside of Harry, Gant and pick up a position. So Kyle petty leads coup Wicky with Ernie urban now in third Harry Gant fourth Pat, Ken Schrader running in fifth. Let Dale Earnhardt is back there in seventh position has he is just kind of been trying to work his way up to the front after starting back. Twentieth. At the beginning of the race here this afternoon the other side of that coin Mark Martin going for the million dollar. Winston Cup championship hasn't been a good day for market all cars, just not really been running that. Well, we might get one of our pit reporters to check in there. And find out if they have some kind of a problem than handling or something else course, it's going to be a long day. Mark Martin may just be kind of waiting back and waiting for the race to come to him. But for the moment at least at this juncture the race with one hundred fifty seven laps complete. He hasn't shown all that much. Drink. How talked to Steve he said the car is the middle of the corner spends on the gas if loose off the quarter profit Rick killer. He said the same day alert heart star tied. Hi. To racetrack light in the middle of the corner doesn't wanna turn in the middle of the corners. That's the problem. Both of these drivers are having this point in the race. But is rectal with different tires from a philosophical standpoint, though is Dale Earnhardt approach this race trailing in the points. The same way he might have had he been leading the Winston Cup points broach. The racist thing wave de Ville the same. I may not. I'd rather be in front whether it be at one point leader or more. I'd rather be lead Martin than behind. Haney advantages a good advantage. He's got that vantage right now with sixteen points. It's been so close for the last several racist, by points means a lot. Picked five up pink five, you know, his back in board right now back and forth is at forty nine points. The advantage that Mark Martin has over Dale Earnhardt and problems again on the Ernie urban car. Again, started running again, it just come off turn and it just quit. They're going to. Well, they don't know what they're gonna do what they would do either. In the case, we're gonna have the basically it in finance, the boy, those kind of problems sometimes to be almost impossible, Ernie Irvan. Now back up the full speed getting around here. Just like he has most of the day except for the time or to that machine. Shut off. We do need up date that Larry Pearson who spun up there in the corner moment ago is back out there running real strong his machine no damage to the car, but they have lost a lot of time position wise on the race track. One hundred sixty one laps are being shown on the board. Just joined a broadcast for the most of the afternoon since tile petty got in front in the early going. Nobody's been able to head him off. So that's how petty doing pretty much what he did here in March of this year, and he came down all the money right now he has an advantage of two and eight tenths seconds over the rest of the field. The rest of the field being Alan Wicky back in second. Harry Gant in third can't continues to post very strong run. But the front three lot of daylight between. Them. Kyle petty works across the start finish line. He's about a half a straightaway ahead of Keke. It's almost a quarter of a straightaway. Back to Harry, Gant third-place car. What are we give you a bit of a run down how they were running moments ago? Just prior to Ernie urban having the problem in his car seemed to shut off about a lap. Kyle was leading and still is co Wicky is second Ernie urban was running in third as moments ago. Harry Gant was fourth Ken Schrader fifth. Bill Elliott running six daler and heart seventh. Rusty Wallace eighth. Ninth is Morgan shepherd at ten blocks. Ricky Rudd in eleven spot. Terry Labonte Brett Bodine twelfth thirteenth is Geoff Bodine fourteenth. Sterling Marlin, Bobby hill on the lead lap running. Fifteen spot sixteenth. Dick, trickle seventeenth Rick mast eighteenth. Rick Wilson nineteenth Dale Jarrett. Mark Martin running in twentieth. Twenty-first is Michael Waltrip twenty-second. Darrell Waltrip twenty-third is Derek cope. All of those cars on the lead left. One lap down. At twenty four is Dave Marcus twenty fifth. Richard petty running at twenty six Larry Pearson. Twenty-seven spot now as Jimmy Hensley going in twenty eighth. Tommy, KENDALL and twenty-ninth is Jack Pennington two laps down at thirtieth has hut. Strickland thirty-first Chad little three or four laps down in thirty. Second is the Jimmy means car. Thirty third is Jim bound thirty four Rick Jeffrey running in thirty fifth now is Mike Skinner thirty-six Davey Allison those of the car still on the racetrack. And after Ernie urban car comes back up to full song. We are told. Now, he is settled in in sixteenth position. So a dropped from third to sixteenth in the span of that almost the one mile period. When the car is basically shut off one hundred seventy laps on the board here the afternoon four hundred ninety to make up the total distance in the Delco five hundred this as was the case back on March the fourth of this year has turned into a Kyle petty benefit, although Kyle Tacoma, some two hundred twenty eight thousand dollars from Unocal back in March hill not be able. Do that today? The Unocal challenge at thirty thousand four hundred dollars and it's up for grabs. Only Ken Schrader. But now under green flag conditions. Here. We go with pitstops as rusty Wallace. Is the first man in. Let's cover his stuff. I'm going to change. Sorry about that. He's titan in the car. They all four. On the car in may have felt the vibration wheel been looser something running time. Have that problem? I think before this. Rusty Wallace have been posted back in about eight position as he makes that pitstop goes back onto the racetrack one hundred and seventy two laps or on the board. I tell you the driver would probably need to keep our on. We say this almost every time we come to you. And that will be Bill Elliott. He doesn't ever really force the issue in the early going. I can't think of how many times over the last three or four years. We watched income to this racetrack and just ride along the lead lap. Keep the leaders within a half a straightaway. Then in that final round of pitstops, or whatever all of a sudden Elliott is right up. There navy playing a waiting game here today. Although the white Kyle petty is getting around this racetrack. If nothing changes on that car. Nobody can play a waiting game because he's going to be long Johns across the stripe heading back toward turn one and has right now almost two-thirds straightaway on island Wicky been watching Bill. Elliott's progress all year and a lot of folks say well bills just not have the kind of year he's used to with only one victory in that coming just a short while ago. There are a lot of fellowship. Love loved to have the kind of year that Bill Elliott has going right now. Other than the boy, go back and change of you, the ROY pageant flat power or something like that. We'd being good show. But there's not the new right now. Bill Elliott showing third spot in the points at thirty five hundred forty one to six points ahead of fourth place. Geoff Bodine against the fact that Bill has but one victory. This year is given the connotation of bad season. But they happen consistently all year had a bad year. At all. It's just the fact that most of the fans are so used to Bill Elliott winning you know, almost every other fourth and fifth race. And when you finish second or third or whatever they figure you're having a bad year. But that's not the case for Bill Elliott long with several other drivers in that same category. One hundred seventy six laps on the scoreboard. Kyle petty continues to just eat around this racetrack. And Joe or watching him come through one or two. He doesn't seem to be having any Hanley problems at all. I tell you what he's grown up a little bit too in this respect, we talk about that the other day. You don't see Kyle with that car a place where it doesn't need to be. If he runs. On traffic, and there's plenty of room to get by he'll make the move to the side or inside. But there isn't it doesn't take those chances. Like he wants to talk about a lot of different drivers using erratic lines here today Borgen's keffer, we call attention to ticket real high lines dare Walcott some of the drivers click mild from the very start as head his card nailed white down at the bottom of the racetrack. He's not working back and forth with the steering wheel. When it comes through here. He sips the car. One time just ride so smoothly off turn to sales out of the back straight away for keeping watch birth back into the field on earning urban after the problems he had he's now moved up to eleventh position his to be quite well and even though problems at the beginning of the race. And as recently as several laps ago Hertie urban still maybe threat here today could be anybody's rights because there's an awful lot of the left. We're talking about Kyle petty and how he is changed the driver. You heard him early this afternoon say that he'd given up most of his business interests. And he thought that it made a big difference was the right thing to do and a few weeks ago. We're talking to him at one of the racetracks about maturing as a driver and being a little. More patient. You know? I've always been kind of one that that if it wasn't happening to try to make something happen and then get in trouble. And you know, you end up tearing up a bunch of stuff, but you know, in in Gary's real good about that talks to you on the radio keeps you calm tells you where you're at as you the leaders are at and t j two hundred eleven no five hundred lap race. Take time. We've got plenty of time to catch back up, and we'll make adjustments under stops and stuff. So, you know, Gary helped a lot on that. And not have to be patient. He's a patient when he tries to keep me patient doing using good judgment here. The San has all season long really really has. He has learned to buy his time. And of course, he now has a very seriously very serious contending race car under each and every week, and that makes a whole world of different nothing hasn't been in contending cars in the past. But when you show up virtually every week knowing that you are one of the many who can win on the Winston Cup circuit. You do start thinking of it more responsibly. If you will, and that's really shown in Kyle Petty's performance. He as a three and three tenths second advantage right now on second place. Alan Koichi, Harry, Gant still running. Third bill. Elliott's fourth and Ken Schrader running in the fifth spot further back in the field. Other car still scuffling along Darrell Waltrip running in twenty seconds spot. Ova car handles a good bit better now than it did earlier in the afternoon Jeff Hammond in the crew trying to chase down that race car so to speak, and they do seem to have dialed it in a bit better here in the middle stages of this event. If you're just joining us, you're tuned to live coverage on M R radio of the AC Delco five hundred year live at the North Carolina Motor Speedway and Rockingham. Only. Two more racist remain on the Winston Cup schedule. This year November the fourth will join you from Phoenix international raceway for the checker five hundred and the November the eighteenth the Atlanta Journal five hundred at the Atlanta international raceway. Certainly ticket offices are open at both of those facilities right now has Ernie Irving's car shuts off again on the back straightaway. He slows to a snail's pace up and turns three and four and almost as quickly the car seems to reignite. If you will had he comes back up the racing pace here at the start finish line. And dick Brooks. It's got to be a so frustrating feeling as Joe was just saying before Ernie work this way up to eleventh again, and then all of a sudden of no doing of his own or anybody that the car just shuts off on them. It's got to be frustrating to see that hard work. Go out the window. Like that. The everybody years gone into automobile dealership someplace they will McCarthy missing her dissemble of thing to do when you bring it in there. What happened here? There's a number of never can cause. Primarily just a loose flyer. Someplace making good connection. Sex lose touching goes again. Now, they. As well as. They don't know anything's gonna cut off and not fire again with. But does that they can find a fine. What it is. But the way it is. Now, they waste so much time. Trying to find a fire department that make Las come in. Stay in a same laugh with them. Never know maybe the playing may contact and it won't come apart. Again, it is going to have to bind. A lot of things can change the distance. We have left to go here at the North Carolina Motor Speedway. That's for sure right now still petty as we said one hundred ninety six laps are being posted on the scoreboard. Allen Kalicki's has not been able to do any better and get within about two thirds of a straightaway behind him, which translates almost five seconds almost six really the true distance between these two cars. So for the moment. It's one of those stages in race like Rockingham Dover where it takes about four hours. Or so to run it. The drivers know, hey, let's just try to stay in that lead. Lap of about a problem on the car nursing long to get on pit road get it cured because there's going to be some more cautious more than likely we got a chance to get right back up there and go at it for the lead. The teams are using much more the race track. Now, even the ones that are handling well are taking higher groups it kind of reminds you of the way run Dover Delaware over the years because for season's upon seasons. If you got into the groove here at Rockingham, you more often than not found the wall was kind of like running Darlington in that regard. And dick Brooks just looking around. Here there their cars, even some of the top runners that are using numbers of difference grooves here this afternoon. And it doesn't seem to be hurting anybody. Again. His again. And I think we've talked about most people larger pushing pretty well aware round racetrack part of Earnhardt staying, right? News crew down in the bottom. These. Corners best you can. Again, at least in one and two. Guard driving into one car push up on them and their accelerate nam one thing that happens when you do that is come in. And you get a new set of tires on a little bit different snag with sometimes hard to get back into routine of being a bottom racetrack at a way around this thing under normal conditions. This still stuck right down a bottom drive it off into the first burn which is a little bit to save him. God you going kind of been anyway, don't make a square corner out of it. And then when you get down in a corner at the girl, I have a tendency to slip out money. Stay tight with it. And. The second term Bernard gets his car, right? He's having a slowdown in the middle because it's not turning so well on that he's still saying down in their never gets his car. Right. He's going to still be in the same group. Mentally and probably be tough with Kyle squire stand down pretty good. But it's a kind of a mental thing here you let to Carpi free now. And you do a long long time when you get to right Delaval mentally off board somebody'll drive. You separation between first and second is two and eight tenths of a second for Kyle Petty's advantage over Allen Kalicki. So the NFL has shortened up just a little bit. They've been out there pretty good while since last pitstop and Jim Phillips wanna they run here. Assuming this race as marine somewhat ninety two or three laps. Knotty begging ninety six left money on this track. Ninety two laps somewhere in that area. To laugh, of course, earlier the ratio they will stretch far get out of the back five ninety six laps. I would say about ninety two and actually goals pistons what the teams like the tell you four point two to four point six miles to the gallon. You can go almost one hundred ten laps if he goes to testify on what you're supposed to be getting. So if push comes to shove down the stretch today team or two could try and stretch their fuel mileage of it more. If members we right narrow Walter did that ago over one hundred and ten miles and went on to win the race. Two hundred laps around the school board right now in the Delco five hundred here at the North Carolina Motor Speedway. We're talking a moment ago about using so much more of this racetrack back in the old days when they used to put the sealer on this particular speedway here if you got out of that lowered roof you had about lane and a half to race off into the turns. I think one thing this changed that they don't put the cedar down anymore this racetrack this replay? If you years ago surface is not all that. Bad at the radio tires made. A big difference too has far as the car's getting a bite in the corners being able to use at least a groove and a half two grooves. And in some cases today we've seen that third lane being used up. There was still some good lap-times. Take a quick minute to remind our listeners that a limited number of souvenir racing magazines will be available by mail order this coming week. The audacity to do is write the North Carolina Motor Speedway post office bucks. Five hundred Rockingham North Carolina seven dollars and fifty cents except checks or money orders. If you'd like to have a copy of the civic program for the AC Delco five hundred here at this racetrack two hundred and two or on the board the big surprise of day. I guess he ally has to be the fact that Mark Martin has not been up there. But a factor the top five that team has not missed a beat all year long. So to speak, the consistency. May may not be a factor to win every race. But most of the time he'll be around the top five or six but not so today at the top fifteen right now he is running in fifteenth position with Dale Earnhardt running in the eighth spot. So obvious. See the point Chappel could well change here today. But at the same time we are merely two hundred three laps in to a four hundred ninety two lap race. So at this point everything we've talked about his obviously speculative we should mention though, if you're just tuning in that neither Dale Earnhardt, nor Mark Martin has led a lap here today. And if you're new to our sport, the new wonder what the significance might be you get five bonus points. If you do lead a lap even one lap in the middle of the race. You lead laughing get five bonus points, and the driver who leads the most laps in the course of an afternoon would get an additional five bonus points that right now is looking very strong in Kyle Petty's favor as we work our way towards halfway here. The AC Delco five hundred why don't we run things down? Again, the cars on the lead lap. They're still nineteen on the lead lap with Kyle petty showing the way haven't Kubicki a second. Harry Gant third Bill Elliott, fourth cash Reiter fifth. Sixth is Ricky read up a good run seventh. The Sterling Marlin eighth is way. You'll find Dale earn. Earnhardt ninth is the Geoff Bodine car ten stereo Bondi Ernie urban runs in eleven twelve this Morgan shepherd. Ret Bodine's thirteenth fourteenth belongs to Rick mast. Mark. Martin isn't fifteen. Darrell Waltrip sixteenth. Bobby hill in seventeen then Rick Wilson and Dale Jarrett. Those are the nineteen cars on the lead lap. We are live at the North Carolina Motor Speedway in Rockingham. Two hundred twelve laps are completed the running of the Delco five hundred beautiful sunshiny after noon here on the sandhills region of North Carolina. The third for the final race on the Winston Cup scheduled for nineteen ninety at had been all Kyle petty, thus far as a matter of fact, Kyle continues to leave the true value hard charger standings predictably enough as he has led. Most all of this race Ken Schrader who is fifth in the race. Currently second in the true value hard charger points. That is a contest where the top five runners on each lamp, get points over the course of the afternoon the attrition list. Rather slim today. Four drivers gone with engine failure. Charlie Baker, Tracy, Leslie, Jeff Purvis and Ted muss grave. Meanwhile, Mike Skinner has just taken his car behind the wall. Let's get an update from Winston Kelly. In the car and the crew is looking up underneath a hood, Mike, same the problem. Well, believe the ignition is give up on them. We're going to try the other coil here. What the deal is. Mike bitter, Phil having his Clinton paint Chevrolet worked on the way. Still watching the Bill Elliott machine out there. Go through both ends of his racetrack our investment over and turns three and four all day long. He's one of the few cars cease to be able to drive in real low and turn three and just plant that car right at the bottom of the speedway and keep it there. And it's pretty obvious. He's got a lot more car than he showing at this stage of the game of the important things you touched on this before about letting race come to him. He's not pushing that car at all Bill is really not working hard, and forcing the car and laugh traffic or when he came up on Harry Gant to try and make that Pash several apps back. He didn't force the car on Harry, Gandy waited till basically Harry slipped up the racetrack and gave him an opening before. He drove on by. So Elliott looking very smooth. And right now, very good. I think towards the later stages of the race and he's like much like Darrell Waltrip. In fact, he told me a long time ago, a kind of pattern his driving style. After Darryl altarpiece. Darrell Waltrip didn't win ten million dollars by being dummy in this sport of Winston Cup stock car racing you kind of wait and let the race come back to you. In a lot of times. It will do that. Endurance type race much like we see here and at Dover downs. Where takes about four hours to get it done. Two hundred seventeen go up on the scoreboard. We talked about Mark Martin a moment ago, he qualified twenty I had this best time on the second round of qualifying. And we expected in go right up to the front of the pack. But currently he is no better than fifteenth and few times he might have been a position to higher than that. But for the most part, he's been back in the pack all afternoon at a chance to talk with his car owner, Jack Rouch. Really really is. I never talked to Jack that much other than just maybe kind of small type deal in the garage air. But the other day we took the tape recorder. When sit down on the truck and talked at great length and he likes to talk. I mean once he starts opening up almost had to put the vice grip on him to get him to kind of slow down a little bit. But he's very interesting. He talked yesterday about it had been a good year for his team. But he knows it isn't over the championship. It could go either way. We're just hanging on here. Trying to keep doing what we've been doing and hope in the providence spend smiling on us continues. And that things that break beyond our control and the crisis at occur that we can't anticipate don't take us out of contention. But we're very proud to be where we are holding their breath that that the good luck forest last while he's kind of hoping it will you watch this and I do too. I think we talked about earlier you'll see Earnhardt go over there. Of course, Richard Childress owns Dale Earnhardt, Steve Earnhardt knows what's at stake for both these drivers between himself and Mark Martin. He goes around Jack Rousell they've been pretty good friends. Off and on for the year. But daily go over and put a headlock on him like a wrestler, you know, and they'll kind of scuffle around a little bit. And Dale told me one day he said, he doesn't know what to make of me. He said, you know, it's just kinda strange kids a kid around with him. And he'd understand that I asked Jack about that. And Jack really knows what's going on there. We're not going to be lulled into sense of fair complacency that will impact our camping chip in any way. And quite a what they're doing. No air we brands and we are. But some of us being poked, some of the fun being poked, some of the things are happening have been I think in the interest of making a little more comfortable than we might be. But we we expect that that when it comes right down to a rate that Dale racist hard with Mark as he's we've seen him race with anybody ever, and that can be pretty town. And we don't want to be we won't they alone end of a sense of wellbeing that will will not prepared for that. Which will be ready when it happens, the what Jack is saying is or heart and come around, and you know, kind of Kim. With us all he wants to. But when it comes time to get it done things will change on pit road. The leader Kyle petty brings his car into this should be schedule. Stop. Let's go to the pits. They had planned to bring him in on the left to twenty two. They did that they've got a pretty unique system. Here's fours how to keep up with negative computer system. And and keep track each track form for view tire wear their comparison to the top five cars their distance on the car behind them and their lap times. And when he came in to go he had a lead over the second place guy by about three point one seconds and twenty laps. He picked up three seconds or low better because when he came in he was six point five seconds lead over himself. He's consistently outrun in the second place car, which I'm assuming everybody else, but he's been running lamps and just about exactly twenty seven and a half seconds hasn't varied very much in the last thirty eight while the two top point men are in together on pit road Mark Martin stopped as Dale Earnhardt Earnhardt, screw going to the right shy. Now around to the left side for tired change. All the way around Mark. Martin's crew is doing the same of four tire change for both men on lap number two hundred and twenty four Ricky Rudd. His in Ernie Irvan is in Terry Labonte comes in for service. And again, the flying Asia's get Earnhardt. I dunno. Hurry. Mark Martin has to hit the binders to avoid getting into by Terry Labonte back to the pets in the garage with dick trickle dig Pontiac, what happened exist. Well. Pretty good. Just a little bit too. White another yellow, but I think we had a pistol. Dollar lead. Or do. Helping. Stick pickle each out of the AC del go by the foregin shepherd brings a motor craft forward onto pit road. And bud more on the team go to work to service that car and they make a four tire chains. That's exactly what they're going to do to send him back on the race track. Michael Waltrip brings his car into the pits. Now, these are all routine stops Davey. Allison is in the pits. Derek cope the Daytona five hundred winner brings the purolator filters car onto the service. And here comes Brett Modi. Let's go to the back pits. Winston kelly. 225 was Larry on tires and gasoline Starling. And who'd worked his way all the way to the seventh possession came in. You got four. Brings the tide Chevrolet of that car. They're also get four tires Jackman on pit road. Richard petty. He's got the Pontiac. The problem on the Mike dinner car is dead battery and the replacing the battery which is located up underneath rare. A high driver. Off the left rear prior to get. Kemba committee sports card, so Mike Skinner having a battery of my. Still waiting for Bill. Elliott come on pit row. They're posting him as leader. He hasn't made his pitstop yet and Ricky Rudd car was in there twice Jim Phillips any indication as to why. Occasion. All Barney, Ricky Rudd just gave into tires on his automobile and sit on his way also Chattan Jimmy Henry on this pit road. Jetboat ion is yet to make his stop also and everything evens out as far as the cars that are on the lead lap go down to make the regular stop. It looks like it will move pity. Right back up to the front of the pack. Now Bill Elliott has gift to pit does pitch strategy change here in nineteen Ninety-one because of track position Bill. Thank it's changed in the last year quite a being from the standpoint of how many capable race cars. How many good teams are all right now. And everybody's got together for the on pit road race track. Or whatever most everybody has got their act together. Very well. Thoughts of Bill Elliott who now does come in for service in front of dick Brooks four on Unocal gasoline. They've done any goes away. Everybody here's pitted. Except for Jeff Bodine. They've not brought him yet. There's dreadful trying to keep him up him going where they want him to run as long as I have tried to bigger up. If they have any extra. They can do it in less stop or something by waiting with the are now getting not going ready to bring him in what they say about this thing just short beard at time in the last three or four years it's gone from Ford having to pit considerably earlier than GM products. Because. Molly changing some the last go around performance guys today are all port. So they're out last than Chevrolet now with with fuel. Molly just Tipote on just now that a bit Japan is the final group of cars in the lead lap to make his pitstop. They go to work on that machine change the right side tires. These are all green flag stops, and they are scheduled pitstops no schedule once here. Everybody was due to come onto pit road. And Jeff would I will be the last car to make a stop. So as we said now that all the front runners have been in the pits. Kyle pity goes right back to the front of the pack. They're posting Harry Gant as the number two position back in third. Looks like Allen quickey than Kenny Schrader and rusty Wallace. Now, let's set the situation on the race track. From the leader Kyle petty back to second place. Harry, Gant is seven and six tenths seconds. Meanwhile, Mark Martin is just directly ahead of the race leader Kyle petty as he was before the pitstops of moments ago. So kyle. In a position to put Mark. Martin a lap down here at the North Carolina Motor Speedway. All the pitstops are now complete in both the front pits and the back pits and all runners have been able to go in and change at least two tires and dump in a tank of Unocal seventy six gasoline and get back out there and set the race for a while. While the field is a little bit strong out. It'll give us a chance to talk with Bill Osbourne. Vice president of marketing marketing for union Seventy-six products in the mid west. I'm sure you hear yesterday for the Unocal seventy six pit crew challenge Bill. There was quite a day. Very exciting out of Cape. Believe how close the competition wise. It really was that particular thing that you guys do here has been a great recognition for the pit crews. We talked with a lot of guys yesterday down there. I think it started back about nineteen sixty seven and back in that era of stock car racing. If driver wanna race, he got all the credit. They said this driver did this. And this driver did that or whatever the cruise didn't get any recognition at all. Once you guys started doing the union Unocal seventy six pit who race. And it got more and more publicity the cruise. Really gotten into this thing, they take it really really serious the shirt, and they really liked the opportunity to grow out in in be judged on their own merits. They liked competing and being planned in getting the recognition that that is it's really important part of the whole race. He'll tell me about UNOCAL's identification throughout the midwest. Obviously the Winston Cup series runs at Michigan. The butcheries goes to Indianapolis. And so on is Unocal getting the mileage in the mid west the upper midwest your marketing area that we see on a regular basis here in the southeast. It's a very impressive for people who are not part of the midwest. They don't recognize that. They don't have the awareness that you have in southeast. It's more of a cultural position that unit Unocal and peer and seventy six head in the southeast. It's now that way in the mid west to seventy six brand is very well known in the racing teams in the clans there support. It tremendously gets very very well accepted. I know you Unocal has been in this business almost since nascar's inception way back in the late forties. And a lot of companies that come into this business use the product in the cars on the cars, whatever, and you learn an awful lot by running your gasoline in these cars, I'm sure that it makes a better product at the gas pump for the consumer doesn't rail. That's what we believe, you know, you've got enough nerve and guts to put your product on display for the world a five hundred mile race you talking about performance and you're talking about quality. We do. That thirty year NASCAR races with peak. We've lead people can trust our product when they pull up at the pump. So we think there's a real relationship there. They'll thanks for stopping by chatting with moment. Bill burned the vice president of marketing for you Unocal, seventy six products in the mid west, thanks, but you and there's problems on Jeff podium scar. Bill. Thank you for joining us as Jeff alludes plume of spoke wasn't. He was cut Strickland. Correct myself. It'll be hut. Strickland's car who shows a lot of smoke going through turns three and four the bestest breaks Buick, not Geoff Bodine, but hutch Strickland's machine that spokes heavily going through the turn area and Jim Phillips walking alongside the driver from career Alabama's they turned into the garage that what happened. I think some to the motor just left out. Or something about me. Revenue. Those deals were strict he will not finishing AC Delco five hundred this afternoon taking the car to the garage area. And I'm sure if Tim brewers to our broadcast, he almost had a a big one down there, so to speak when you said, Jeff odiaum cars, look so much alike. It really was hard to tell but hut. Strickland takes the car to the garage to join dick trickle, Mike Skinner. Ted must grave, Jeff Purvis, Tracy, Leslie, and Charlie Baker, the cars were showing behind the wall. Here at the North Carolina Motor Speedway. Two hundred forty three laps around aboard. There are thirteen cars on the lead lap at. This juncture Kyle petty is the race leader higher against second. Allen colicky third fourth. This Ken Schrader and fifth. Bill Elliott six Ricky Rudd, Sterling Marlin seven eight zero urban car rusty Wallace ninth tenth, Dale Earnhardt, eleventh is Mark Martin's wealth this Geoff Bodine who's but wiser for two still humming along nicely out there. Pat next in line thirteenth, Terry Labonte. The thirteen cars on the lead lap at left two hundred forty four tile petty, the leader now caught up in some traffic as he works out of turn to Alan Kalicki is closed in on him just a little bit. The lick continues to try and chop the gap down right now. He's got about the length of the back straightaway. Does that's about a quarter mile? But he's in some heavy traffic off aboard as Kyle comes through the corner. He will fall on the tire tracks of Derek cope for the moment. As follows him back at a turn number one. Terry Labonte behind him. There have been lapped moments ago trying to get himself back on the lead lap. It'll be tough. Just looking at the computer here compet is computer again is that Dolby before nineteen laps into this run. He had a six point three second lead on Allen this lap, which is thirty two laps into this run. After the after the pit stop. He's only got a five point three. They always lost one second on in in about twelve laps. The almost got clipped that time coming out of the four just brush together a little bit with Derek copes car and the car cargo very squirrelly for just a second. He puts it back in line of their over in turn three Betty out of the inside of Derek now as he enters turnover three Derek hope slips up the race track. A little bit Kyle can't shake him off the corner as they work off quarter. Dick Brooks is standing there near Gary Nelson. Who is the crew chief on the peak Pontiac, I'm interested to find out what Gary has been saying here. Dick over the last few laps. They showing any concern as Kyle just fighting time or what I asked him minutes ago, if there was anything wrong. He said known when not came back and looked at this machine. He is run. Thing. Same speed exactly that he was running when he come into pity running twenty seven and a half seconds. That's the same speak. I don't have a clock on the Wikki, but he's picked up a little bit of speed on on. Our are having trouble getting through trapping, his time Luxa weight and guide a bit. He had some times in twenty six and a half seconds time and twenty nine so as time for not as consistent as they were earlier. More point three seconds last time here across the stripe from first to second. He's been working through some lap traffic. And as we said a little bit early this afternoon. Kyle is not about to over extend that car put it in the place where it's going to get a wrinkle put in it or whatever and that may be part of the slowdown. But I don't think that's all of it the Wikki to be getting a little bit stronger. So the NFL is beginning get a little bit shorter. Each time around the stay pretty good gap between the leader. And Allen Kalicki quickest lap of the day was still lapped number two. When Ken Schrader turned a one hundred forty three point nine four three miles an hour. Kyle had a lap of one forty three point seven just a short while ago, but the Holly farms lickety-split award still in the hands of Ken Schrader at this juncture, let's go back to the pets club. Gary Nelson stocking to Kyle and give him a laptop here. You might have slowed down just a little bit. Something happened. Somebody dropped them oil down low. Brennan, lower than anybody oil affected him more and the other car, but now and learn. Learn off track. We're getting our base back. Kinda hold true because his lap time on the scene tell that to get more consistent, but he's also probably taking more care down there. Also as explained earlier racetrack drive off into the first turn. And you know, you've got both troll of it. And you get to the bottom of it. And all of a sudden slips up money as on jury doesn't want to do that. Two hundred and fifty nine laps are being shown on the school board here this afternoon latest rundown. We have to NASCAR scoring indicated that Mark Martin had moved up to eleventh position. So he's getting a little bit closer to the front. As Dale Earnhardt was being shown intense only one spot between the two there as far as track position where they're getting around here right now talked to Earnhardt market, great lengths did all the other media here this weekend. Mark is kind of loose about the championship is taking it all in stride. And he kind of put it into perspective of what it really boils down to. Acadia? I have said this week though that I wish somebody would wake me up in the morning, and Tim Lee who won. You know that that deal Charlotte? I think woke up not only us but race fans as well. To the fact that this feeling be over till it's over I think it's really if we both had to have trouble. It's great that we had trouble in the same race other than having to us having trouble in in Charlotte in Dale not having trouble. And then he would've took the lead in would have been, you know, everybody would have been an uproar over that. And then he had trouble say here, and we took the lead, you know. I'm just glad that that both of us had trouble in the same race. And that maybe we can finish off the year. See we had ten or twelve races in a row. We never missed the top ten in Harley Missa top five in ourselves as well. As race fans. Got to believe in that nothing could ever go in. So, you know, we'll be glad to get, you know, get another one behind us and in get closer to the Mark Martin thoughts about the wisdom Cup championship. Is Dale said anything can happen in this business? He may blow. Oh me away by a great deal of points before the year's over market have trouble as they said, I could discount sweep this thing in the next couple of races myself a lot of folks talk about the situation that happened to Dale Earnhardt, Charlotte when the wheel came off there in the turn and show. I was asking Jeff Hammond who has been in his share of championship runs lately. How close to we come each and every race to a major mistake by some pit crew somewhere along the pit lane. It probably happened about thirty pounds during the course of a right because easy, you know, you gotta put yourself in a couple of people's pervasive something if you're not thinking all the time courtesy, why don't tell you drive. What's going on? Noriega right. Hey, we're going to change four tires. He can come in and not pay attention because they sit there maybe just trying to clear his when you're causing trait you'd run a hundred miles at better than a hundred fifty hundred sixty miles an hour it traffic. I mean, your your whole world in proper perspective. This kind of around you come in your thinking about do things might take a deep breath in the cold water wash my face, if you watch your base, you don't say the guy on the left side left front. Now, I asked Jeff if there's a particular type of communication that he and his driver Darrell Waltrip goal through during a pitstop. One key word win. During the week here. Late Darryl is you don't Holloway. Oh, this sounds like go. So he practice you work. Stop driver. Don't stop. Well, then you know, you gotta have them all off with him. But that's you ever stop on the radio he is supposedly trained himself to where he just locks up. And there's something wrong, but having it can happen. Montaigne releasing. We had a good plot. One time Darryll Holland. Whoa. He's always go coming in. We had a hit of it can happen. It happens. Really? It really does also seen a paddle for the lead here. Barney something's happened. How pity he's off the pace. Let's go now to pit road came by. Ninety seven cylinders cars down flat by h time for petty is lost his cylinder. Dick down that with Senator. But he is far far off the pace in what he's running a little bit earlier that has allowed Allen Kalicki to slide by him and quickey is now the leader. And he may lose that second spot over and turn to outside of. Pay badly with coming off turn to dead even here on the back straightaway. That cylinder problem also good diagnosis because Kyle petty is getting through the corners as well as everybody else. But he's getting passed by everyone on the straightaways. He hold her delete in three. But then on the straightway Elliott goes right by I'm with Jerry Nelson. Jerry, what happens we're not sure really slow down probably want to. Maybe they should problem. We're not Jerry about we can't stop killer. We're going to right track. Hope our caution. Hey, we're gonna can't work on it. But we'll see how it goes. Now. Derek COPA slowing on the back straightaway as well the purolator filters machine for Derek co who has twice winner this year that a tone of five hundred and the Budweiser five hundred over he slows markedly on the back straightaway. He'll be coming out of the attention of buddy Parrott in the crew here on the main street away. So when it happens it happens in a hurry at Rockingham. Jared cope has taken his car to the garage area quickly. Let's get his and find out what happened there, you're the garage area. What happened? Got into something that Dr to lay down, and I don't know exactly what it is. But just lay down, and we would go to try and fate. Unfortunately, you know, we got after but the call we got to tighten up last heard. But it was a pretty good day. Derek Koby out of the AC Delco five. Two hundred seventy six laps around the Boyd four hundred and ninety to make up the total distance this afternoon and the Delco five hundred if you're just joining us Kyle petty had been the dominant car all afternoon long. But here over the last ten or twelve minutes he is developed an apparent engine problem. That has relegated him now down to fifth spot with Alam Kubicki. The race leader. Harry Gant is second Bill Elliott third Ken Schrader fourth then Kyle petty and fifth off the attrition list. Your Derek cope tell us moments ago, he is gone with engine failure, Mike Skinner. Now also goes behind the wall with the same problems that we have lost eight cars this afternoon. And every one of them goes out with engine failure. See Jim Phillips down in the Garrett pit standing near Waddell Wilson who is one of the premier engine builders on the circuit is this something unusual Jim Phillips spores engine stress here at Rockingham. What else? L eight cars out today with injured problems this racetrack really tough on engine. A lot of maple gears. Bigger knit the track with may run little floor water. Here is a place. It's gotta run at all day. And a lot of people now are trying to weigh. Run-up rudd. But now we've been up with Dr. Problem. That's what L will the Tepe agent biller for Ricky Rudd strikes kind of like Dover on dick Brooks can Tanna embellish on this a little bit. I'm sure because used to break crankshafts and stuff like that at Dover. And it seemed like some of the one mile speedway's were tougher on engines in any place. We went indicative, I think there's no such thing as breaking crankshaft even back in the old days, but at Dover, you could go up there and pop one right in half. Barney. There is such thing as a cycle life on almost anything that moves weren't being aircraft. In turn automobile engines or anything else, you got so many miles. You got so much time. And then they got so many cycles that something's good for used to used to pick your cycles on on the connecting rods and Steph to to be, you know, however, many remember the number now it's way up in hundred thousand got cycled number that gonna run those. Connecting rod got a cycle number that you're going to run the crankshaft stuff on this particular place, an engine runs a lot of cycles because it takes along engines running x amount rpm just like it does on a short Drakkar or a real long track. But it doesn't for a long period of time. So the engine live here is used up just to Gaza time say three hours you've run so many psycho through an engine and in in this race takes four hours. So then he's having trouble. The end of that rods are stretching a little bit. Pistons are starting to flatten out a little bit spurts on them are starting to draw a little bit valve springs. Valve starting to stretch all things that just comes over time starting to happen. I used to figure one of these guards on a five hundred mile race in three three and a half hours was equal to drive about one hundred thousand miles on a regular streetcar in. In four hours sequel to one hundred fifty hours or so on streetcar the guy that just the extras tension. It's put on the thing today has to do with a lot of it along racetrack's new thing. Like what else says that has happened all through my career and racing when you get scared you start putting here in when drivers complaining grow teach ear inn. When drivers are saying, they're not doing very well. And they're getting scared. They say put me some more gear and do that. Because it makes the car looked better. It makes you feel better. You can you can run closer to the front, but that just adds to the same thing. Just talking about the it takes away from the longevity. The engines and gambling pretty heavy on it. Some of those guys like Juan El Robert Gates, guys. It's been around forever. Never hell and those guys they know that most of the time they won't stop to care to them. Unless the pressure's really on them. That's happened right here. Tile petty after dominating most of this race in the early going up to the halfway point this afternoon is now slipped back all the way to six position. Whatever the problem is. On that car. You heard Gary Nelson. Tell us a few moments ago, they're just gonna stay out there and ride it out and try to get on pit road. And find out whatever they can do to it and maybe still getting shot to win. But it has slipped him all the way back to six position leader is Allen Kalicki. Tell you creeping up on Alan Kalicki Bill Elliott as we said a little bit earlier this afternoon don't count him out because he's getting closer. And closer Elliott has now moved up into the number two position. He just got around. Harry Gant to mostly will Gantt currently still being posted back in third fourth this Kenny straighter and fifth. This Ernie urban. I at this point might be one of the leading candidates for the goodies headache award that will be voted on by the media and attendance here the shaft, noon seven hundred fifty dollars and sample of video headache powders tablets to try and cure a headache. We'll go to the winner of the goodies headache award. Whereas the Marin crew as our afternoon winds down will be voting the peak performance cool move of the race award. The winner of the cool move award gets five hundred dollars in the folks at peak. Antifreeze, and some are cool. We are pushing our way towards the three hundred lap Mark here. The shaft the noon some ten laps shy of that point. Alan Koichi continues to lead the AC Delco five hundred at Rockingham from the North Carolina Motor Speedway. This is M R N radio. We are at North Carolina Motor Speedway and Rockingham. North carolina. The beautiful sandhills region known for its golf courses auto racing mcglade your along with us on radio the AC Delco five hundred is two hundred ninety six laps complete. How cool Wicky now has caught the car directly ahead of him. Who is Mark Martin? And now is about to put Martin the Winston Cup point leader lap down and turn to the Wikki climbs the banking cler to alongside Martin as they hit the backstretch like cookies up on the back of the day, Marcus car. Martin holds the inside line to get by the high lie Bill entering turn number three. Now, he's gonna set off after Dale Earnhardt toes. They work themselves around turn four Martin goals. Lap down co Wicky speech in the fans rise and cheer as one. We're also watching some smoke that has begun to boy a wolf the right front of Richard petty cards possible, Joe war in the corner Huron of better view than we as the sheet. Medal caved in on that card. All look like that was the case. Fender been it'll tire Richard has gone to his pit. Let's get an update from Winston Kelly on the back period, the crew's going to work on the left side of the car. Now, they. The same kind. They were banging away seat on the white car for a little bit sheet metal damage rubbing on the right with a Medicare gets bored on ESPN Pontiac and he back off. Richard petty. Rejoins the fray on the two hundred ninety eighth lap four hundred ninety to make up the distance here rocking apps. We've still got a ton of racing to go next week. The Winston Cup series his idol, but MR are it will be carrying. It's microphones to the beautiful martinsville speedway in Virginia. The Winston five hundred classic next weekend. We'll have the Winston Cup of the Winston classic with the Busch Grand National cars at the NASCAR Winston modified tour two of the free Rangers. That'll be rubbed their next weekend. The late model stock cars will get going at twelve noon with our broadcast at one o'clock next Sunday from martinsville speedway. Tickets do remain certainly they'll settle the NASCAR Winston modified tour championship and will watch the finale for the push Grand National series as well. So with Mark Morton now a lap down to our race leader Alan co Wicky Wicky next order of business beta put Dale Earnhardt a lap down. And that's. Story that is unfolding in turn three Kalicki has closed within about four carlights Earnhardt now to get to work on him a little bit off of turnover. Four go ickies really headed dialed in here all day long. He catches up today. Learn heart about three four car lengths behind him tries to chop it down a little bit Earnhardt stands on at going off into tournament. Warm big pack traffic directly head that may be a factor in this battle cars directly hand race. Excite by side. Rick vast chat little as Elliot these back down turn three all the Ford fans waving Wicky on the back straightaway. He tries to put the good rank Chevrolet of Doughty's chop it down to where he's right on our hearts back bumper there also four cars directly ahead of both Earnhardt and co Wicky that will come into play here in a moment across the stripe. Three hundred two laps on the board. Who Wicky the leader trying to put Earnhardt a lap down right up to the top side of the racetrack. Does Wicky the Ford wound up? Now pulling along side the Goodrich Chevrolet Wicky will take the high group Earnhardt will be forced to the bottom of the racetrack. He tries to keep the Chevrolet wild up the car little wide of the. Back straightaway. But it turned over three Wicky will vote around the outside Earnhardt driving and running the car just as hard as he can to keep from going lap down because that can make a big difference in positions the way, they finish your this afternoon. Already with Mark Martin one lap behind so far will hasn't been able to do it back in to brush banking a little bit too high Wicky does Earnhardt stays even on the backstretch hard hard running hard on the bottom grew this time quickies offender out front of the end of the back straightaway. Earnhardt's run up on the chat little car, the low group so Kalicki will get it done. This time off before your comes Earnhardt again, maybe just tuning in. This is not for the lead. This is for Earnhardt to try and stay on the lead lap, the race leader avenue Wicky trying to put him a lap down Wicky draws even to the outside groove and turn one question will be where to the laugh cars go to or side-by-side off too. But now coming off the quarter. It's Wicky getting by Earnhardt who Wicky will move flee at fraud as they reached the end of the back straightaway. Now this battling with Earnhardt is allowed Bill Elliott to close uncle Wicky. Now will make him. Ten car back from the leader. Dale Earnhardt, tried to use one of the tricks that he's used over the years on a lot of drivers in this business by letting Kalicki get going side-by-side going off into tournament three there. Three or four laps ago, hoping Kalicki would get in their way too hard, and maybe drift up high get the car, but out of shape, and maybe do something the tires, but Kalicki wouldn't have any part of that. Now, he has cooked Dale Earnhardt a lap down. While Bill Elliott tries to close in a little bit more Elliott now some eight nine Carling's behind and very shortly. If he can get up there. We'll have a good hot battle for the lead. Dill Allen Kalicki setting the pace after Kyle petty is had a problem and fallen back in the field dominated the great part of this race more than two hundred laps. Bill Elliott trying to chase down the leader right now, which is Kalicki out of turn number four. There's no traffic between himself in the leader. But daylight space of about ten or twelve Carling's they head back to a Wicky is working on the Dale Jarrett turnover to trying to put a lap on that machine as he pulls alongside him Elliot closes in even more and closing on Elliott is Harry. Gantt Gantt running in third now only about seven or eight Carling's back-off Elliott's bumper he closes that gap is well too. So we're going to have three lay battled for the lead shortly for the rubber band kinda snapping back into place now as the front three cars, cO Wicky Elliott, and Harry cattle interred to Taba kindle, spins directly jetboat on Jimmy means the car slides up the banking. He walks up to break down the car. Rolls down the banking. Everyone gets by not contact vade. We're under caution caution is out. It will be the fifth one this afternoon. It comes out at three hundred and ten as Tommy kindle had a problem over in turn to let's go back for a recap similar incident. The what happened to Tracy Leslie earlier this afternoon. He just lost control. The car looked around me. Lock bell the brakes wealth the car to a halt at the top side of the racetrack. There wasn't traffic coming directly ahead. Jeff bowed post. Namely there at Bodine did a good evasive move to get around the spinning car into last sits fired the car driven back down the pit road. Now, none of the cars that had just been lap. By Allen Koichi. None of them got their lap back. They were not in a position to race co Wicky back to the stripe, so both Dale Earnhardt and Mark Martin the men involved in the Winston Cup point chase. They are still one lap down to the race leader we told you about Rick mast making a pit stop on the three hundred fifth lap. He lost two laps during that exchange. One joined the pit stop and one coming into the pit lane. So that brings you up speed and now on lap three twelve here comes virtually every one of the lead cars down pit road for service. That's go. First dick Brooks. It was the first car to get in here to me. And he's Bill Elliott followed him right in. They're going to change four tires on both guards fill them up with you'll it'll be the kind of thing that day, I blade to try to do whatever just they can Betty's car. They're going to take a look at it under the hood, if they can find out if it's a plug wire off or or whatever it is. This is what they've been waiting. Got it up and working on it about everybody else. I think Michael walnut. With Bill Elliott, but they got it done. Rusty watts. Four tires on his car also done. They learn our cave in along with lock Mark on mortgage. Shepherded Vicky love the two point leaders walk. Bart beat Dale Earnhardt out of the pits. This time let's go to the back pits and Winston Kelly Starling mall. Ben tickets tires and gasoline. Bobby hill and getting four tires and gasoline along with Darrell Waltrip, very Pearson. Saami kindle now. Thanks back on track. Bonding tires. The accident. Getting four tires and gasoline along with Rick Jeffries, Jimmy means all the parts on the Bank. Knitting gas with a pension of Jimmy bound in the heights Katcha Pontiac and he'll come in this time around doing good pit work today. Is the Travis Carter team. They might have just changed two tires at time. We would read it really didn't look that close. But nevertheless, even just changing tires. They beat everybody back on off pit road and onto the racetrack. Here's Kyle petty coming back in let's fall stop. Well, he come in shut it off going to go into the change in a couple of plug wires. It was an awful lot of discussion here. Nobody answer my question. But I think they find I think they feel that there's a couple plug wires loose on thing or one may be bad. And they're going to change it because it sounds like just one cylinder is completed. They're going to work in that area. And we'll see after they get done. If it get it fixed or not co Wicky Bill Eliot Howard, GATT can Schrader Sterling Marlin and Geoff Bodine those six cars on the lead lap. Elmo Langley already taken the Pontiac grand prix. Turbo down the pit lane as we get set for the restart on lap number three hundred fifteen four hundred ninety two here. They come out of Turner before waiting for dole Ford put that green flag in the air. He does and Kalicki comes up through that year box in a hurry. He'll pull away from Bill Elliott at least a couple of carlin's before they hit term a one Rick mass Dick's there at the bottom of the race track. Trying to get his lap back and he pulls even with quickey off turn brick best. The knows the Wikki alongside tucked right behind. Rick mast, Mark Martin and Dale Earnhardt Martin Luther way up between cool Wicky and Bill Elliott. They'll. Try Gotari thou bast. Loose in turn for the car. Almost spins. He gets it under control. I wanna piece of driving violent Kalicki also to avoid to the outside in a hurry and not have his car go around. But it's allowed both Mark Martin and Baillard heart to get back on the lead lap. When Kalicki went wide Earnhardt and Martin went down low Earnhardt now going after Mark Morton it gets an end of now pulls alongside of extra to lay out the back straightaway. Earnhardt will go by on the inside quickey. We'll go by Martin and put him back. A lap down. Elliott will go by as well as they race off of turn four Elliott. Tried to get the lead had quick thoughts about getting under Allen Kalicki coming out of that corner that just wasn't room to do it. Meanwhile, Wicky would like to put Earnhardt a lap down again. But about feeling it's awfully hard to do this time. They're back into a real tough job is hurt. Hardest pulled away black Carlex over two Wicky Earnhardt as bet back on the tail end of the lead. Lap of Martin is losing more positions Elliott has gotten by Ernie urban has gone by Mark Martin damage to the back end of Martin's car where he made contact with Earnhardt Kyle petty after his stay on the pit lane. Lane is back on the race track is four laps down four laps down for Kyle as leaper she'd work back in turt- one. Dick brooks. Changing Nissen on car. Plus it wasn't. It wasn't a put wires. And they thought it was an addition problems. They changed that. But when they started it up it wasn't running good either. So somebody walked by him says, well, it's sick was the end of that. So, but it is it's not running. Well, frustrating day when the car goes away like that. And you have no idea you troubleshoot and try to find what the problem is getting back in or particularly having been dominant. Kyle wasn't nearly goings gotta be twice. Frustrating back at the front of the pack back on the lead lap. Dale Earnhardt is still out front a couple of car links over Allen Kalicki now that all that it was put Earnhardt back on the lead lap Kalicki is the leader Bill. Elliott's right there. He's been knocking on the door to take that lead away a couple of times round this track as they come out of turn before Earnhardt again has seven or eight car links overkill Wicky, and as I said, I got a finis gonna take a while before Kalicki can put Earnhardt a lap down. Absolve? A sudden they'll is really slinging that car around this racetrack. They're back to move. We may be seeing your few moments Ernie urban back. He's badly. Now with Bill Elliott back up to the front of the field Irvine appears to have one of the fastest cars in the race track. But as he comes into turn number three the right front of the car banging off the pavement of the racetrack toy he'll settle in early urban will behind Bill Elliott for the moment. Again. Most cars in Ernie Irving's case trying to get back off the lead lap. But the lead is still Alan Kubicki. Running behind him is Bill Elliott second spot making a move around race, traffic and third is can straighter. Adam cool Wicky is the race leader just about six parlayed behind him. As Bill Elliott, separating the two though is the lapped car of Ernie urban behind Elliott is Mark Martin. He is a lap doubt. That comes the Ken Schrader machine. So we've got a car a lap down. Then a car and lead lap alternating back and forth through the first six or seven cars in line three hundred twenty five complete still Kyle petty is leading the true value hard charger balloting here today has all of the domination that he showed early in. The race has earned enough points to stay on the lead in the true value situation. But at this point four laps down after the host Greeson stay on pit lane. By the next time. We update the heart charter contest, I dare say Kyle's name of dropped from the top spot. But he's had quite a run in the early going this afternoon. But right now, you can do try to nurse it home to some kind of a decent finish before the day is over leading the race. Allen cookie. He's one of the drivers that has yet to get into victory lane in nineteen ninety factors quite a few of big named drivers yet to win a race. Kinney straighter hasn't won. Neither has Allen quickey. Dale jarrett. Terry Labadie fickle runs. Well enough to win a race Mike Waltrip than knocking on the door all year long Morgan shepherd, Darrell Waltrip in Sterling Marlin some of the drivers that have not won a race in nineteen ninety two which is a good chance to change his status in that department fifty five racers. Since Allen has one of the Winston Cup tour was the Phoenix stop back in maintain eight that proved to be the only Winston Cup win for album Kalicki to this point updating you on the. Leaderboard situation. Seven cars currently on the lead lap. But that might change because Dale Earnhardt who is in seventh is on the tail end of the lead lap and Alan Kalicki would like nothing better than to dispense with that black and white GM Goodrich Chevrolet if he can't back in turn one the Witty's of busy camper right now. Trying to get around Earnhardt and try to keep Ernie Irvine behind now pulls alongside Earnhardt urban to make a move down low urban with behind cool now he's gonna try go behind Earnhardt Earnhardt and Kalicki or about dead. Even in terms of ability to get around this racetrack urban looks to make it three wide off four Ernie Irvine may well have the best handling in the fastest car on the racetrack. This departure of the belt AC Delco five hundred because he's been right up the here he goes again takes a look down at turn one. But Whitney goes up alongside Earnhardt Earnhardt bids at white down on the bottom of the racetrack. Perfect. Why did behind the licking Earnhardt gets the Chevrolet wound up off the corner. Though, he pulls out who would he'd alibi full part lake. Meanwhile, Ernie urban is all over quickies back bumper. He's gonna look to the high side of four day. Oh, really getting the good jump. Off the corner now is co Wicky car Ribes up just a bit off number four. It opens inside for Elliott who takes the lead and opens the outside for Ernie Irving's gonna try and get back on the lead lap leads. Thirty urban gets a nose in front of their side by side though, again, author to urban winds up the Chevrolet on the outside. He will get back on the tail end of the lap. Elliott will hold the lead over coup Wicky now both running right behind Earnhardt urban Kohic. Use good judgment coming out of turn four two laps ago when they got three wide coming down that front straightaway. And it appeared that nobody was gonna lift before they hit Turner one. If they'd went in there, three wide. Somebody would have ended up in wall says, hey, we got a lot of racing lift wrinkle my car up at this stage that battle continues off turn two and heading for three Ernie Irvan wants to get around Dale Earnhardt. He's on the outside crew, earnhardt's try and protect the bottom. They go into three side by side. Here's urban gonna try and get him on the outside of four. What those men with both like to do is pull away from Bill Elliott and Alan Kubicki as much as they can Herve and Earnhardt continuing. Battle side by side for seventh and eighth position for the are battling for positional. Vo. They are a lap down to the leaders are now on the tail end of the lead laugh working off turn two heading down the backstretch urban. We'll get around Dale Earnhardt he'll pull up into the seventh physician kicking Earnhardt back to eighth. Meanwhile, Wicky wants a piece of the lead from Elliot. Try to look to the outside and four he falls back in line. He took tried in there come out of the corner and Kalicki may be content for the moment. Just arrived. Right. Where he is look the situation over going back into turn two and one over there a lot of traffic directly head as Elliot vis a little high you'll go to the outside of Dale Earnhardt alongside as he does. He opens the inside lane cooling is there. Elliot will protect the group from Kalicki. But now, they editor number three. He's gonna try and pin Earnhardt behind the Jimmy means car Elliott, try to lap Earnhardt off four Elliott goes to the high side with Earnhardt date say tucked in behind it Jimmy means, but now is beans gives the lead cars racing room. They'll cut down the middle of the groove here on the main straight away and Bill Elliott will try to. Draw to the outside of Earnhardt in an ongoing battle to put Earnhardt a lap down. Which now he'll do on the back straightaway show Bill Elliott lead because he puts Earnhardt a lap down. Allen Kalicki running in the second spot. Sterling Marlin now, shoots up into a tight battle for third ahead of Ken Schrader in fourth and Harry can't in fifth on three hundred thirty five three hundred thirty seven laps complete here in the Delco five hundred a real scramble here. The last forty or fifty laps. Bill Elliott currently holds onto the lead Alan to Wicky within striking distance just a couple of car links back and Ernie Irvan who had got himself up there in contention just a moment ago to win this race. Now has a problem and heads for pit road had got back on the lead lap. This is an unscheduled stop. Let's follow it. Again, similar to what he while ago. After seeing what happens they're gonna pay all four tires on the car. Get going forgetting stuff got the right side most touch something over there because they're pulling on the benefits little bit. I can't. Loosen the left front back up and let him go in it stained right side, Bernie Irvine that stop it unscheduled stop a moment ago. The himself back on the lead lap. But after an extended stay on pit road there. Now posting that car two laps down for the Kodak machine of Ernie urban. So it has been a frustrating day for that team. Tell you done a great job all day long, though, Sterling Marlin Sonoko car they've been doing good pit work getting in and out and sterling has really driven at car slings at around. Here keeps it up there. And he currently is being posted in the number two position. Let's check in his pits right now with Winston Kelly. Beckoned? Personalities finalities crew standing here with. File. Long. Twenty nine hit over here. In the lead lap will be. All right. That's what he's doing right now. He had said Carpio fine. So we just ride it out to you. Gotta be hoping that the the right brain the white bidding back here the virtue. Yeah. We don't want any call. On going. We don't. Tape. I mention that he had not cracked mile Billy Hagan, the car owner was jumping up and down and waving Starling often. Interesting contrast in part finalities, Starling who started back in the twenty nights with partly rut second. We had a good run here today. He's so due to win a race. It came off close last year for the last two years he's been knocking on the door to get the car into victory lane. Just has not been able to do it. Let's go a little further back in the running order that about eighth position right now should be Mark Martin behind him in ninth that looks to be Brit bowed. I Morgan shepherds had a frustrating day. He is back there in eleventh spot in twelve position Terry the body thirteenth is Bobby hill and said a good run here today and fourteenth is Ricky Rudd can't run hot and cold. Also in fifty position that is Rick Wilson sixteenth Dera. Walter two laps down right now. They're posting rusty Wallace seventeenth eighteenth. Is Dale Jarrett nineteenth is Michael Walker and Rick mast rounds out the top twenty twenty. I was Jimmy Hensley. But after. For a stop of fourteen laps for a great problem that will drop him from that position. Larry Pearson being shown at twenty first at this juncture them Richard petty twenty-second Kyle petty twenty third time he can't twenty-fourth Jack Pennington is twenty fifth at Ernie urban again back on the race track. One of the quicker cars out there is he's trying to get one of his laps. Back is two laps in arrears, and he'll draw. Even with the race leader Bill Elliott here at the start finish line. Trying to get one of his two laps back door to door. They go off into the corner. Neither one lifts this time around. Something's got to give the middle of the turn. It's got the end sideline. He'll hold that. Spot. Coming off the corner gets a nose. Now. Bill Elliott, but Elliott's try to fight back in the outside. They come down the back straightaway. He again draws alongside or is they enter turn number three. They'll go to wheel midway through the quarter urban gets the better job though, Ernie Irving's car really sticking at the bottom of that racetrack teams through three and four headed pin right down almost to the white line at the apron of the racetrack. And he and now pulls ahead of Bill Elliott by car link to get one of those laps back there back into side by side. Battling between urban Elliot's allowed stolen now. Chase down Bill Elliott. He's white up on his bumper Farland draws the Sonoko olds doubt of the inside of Elliott scores for thought to take a look at the lead at the end of the back straightaway. He'll run single file though, this time through the corner Toews sterling draws near he'll go single file off the corner. This time just following Elliott around the race track. Jimmy Hensley has taken the crown petroleum car to the garage Jim Phillips there Jimmy behind the wall. What happened? Get pregnant buttons jig jail. Hannah that good. They would have been paying all. But jamie. Big with put one wrote a button on. Got it again on which all that's Jimmy Hensley. They're working on it. We're gonna try to get him back in the race to finish AC Delco five hundred here comes the battle for the lead door to door. Sterling modern goes after turn one down the inside of the race track. Again, Elliott climbs the banking coming off Trevor still there deady with Alex Wicky sitting behind Barlett to Wicky will draw right in this three way tussle for the top spot Elliott happe- Carlin should advantage at the end of the back straightaway. But in that higher group will slip up the banking a little Marlins going to stick it right down low. If sterling takes a lead, it would be for just the seventh time this year that he has led a lap at the stripe that was Sterling Marlin may be by inches with after wait and see what NASCAR says, but it's that close between Elliott, Marlin and co Wicky Philly just barely a head of all of this time off number clue. Still alad Wicky trying to decide which lane to take yours. They hit the back straight away. And again a drag race to the end of the strip running up on some lap traffic now. So they're gonna sort out single file violence gonna fall back in behind Elliott kind of had a sneaking suspicion all. Afternoon long that Bill Eliot had a lot more race card, and he was showing in the first two hundred miles in this race. But he's got his hands full. Now, Sterling Marlin is there. Again, Elliott's car is handling so well, he's running full lane higher still being able to whole Sterling Marlin off the head for three violent will be out of the inside. Drew Elliot will be to the outside. Elliott seems to have a bit more horsepower at the end of the straightaway. But Marlin seems to get through the quarters a little bit better. Again, a dead heat off of poor coming back this time towards the stripe. They'll run up a cop punch him slower cars. Jimmy pound should be means chat. Little all there. So Elliott will go hi Marlon stays low and Kalicki takes the middle. Those latte cars going side by side as well. So they sorted out sticking this quarter with Elliot still Marlin Elliot will get the top spot Marlin falls back singled plow, they go to the outside of Janin's car now into turnover three or the outside of the gym bound car, and they come upon chat Little's automobile Sterling Marlin said yesterday, there's only one way that he's ever known how to run a race car. And that's just as hard as it. Can I don't say one personal? Call data. Tony's like qualified it every layup and just run everybody run it in its way try to run one in you'll sometimes the might be driving. Good and you have to just keep record in getting get fixed. Hope can come on back, but US well ach do just when the dropped flakes. Horseshoe who go and the last last and don't don't that's the ways driving it right now. Three hundred fifty seven laps err on the scoreboard. Bill. Eliot leads second is Sterling Marlin third is Allen Lewitt's think when Elliott kind of pasting self after the first two hundred fifty miles or so found himself at the front of the pack and has been challenged a couple of times and experi apparent that? He's had a lot more race car to work with than he showed in the early going here this afternoon. But just about anything can. And usually does happen Cup racing. A hero say week after week strange. Things can happen with two laps to go. Forty laps to go or whatever and the endurance type racing here at Rockingham taking over four hours. You heard dick bricks dick Brooks talking with some of the people down there also about just how tough this place is on engines transmissions and everything else see some more stuff. But so far the attrition rate has not been nearly as high as we normally see at this racetrack Jimmy car behind the wall owner, and Derek cope was out Strickland. Dick, trickle Mike Skinner has been out in day. Ted must brave Jeff Purvis plac-, Leslie, and Charlie Baker, you pointed out of your day that for the most part. Most of those cars did have an engine problem Jimmy Hensley as soon as you are giving that rundown returns from the garage area. So he is back out on the racetrack from thirty five or forty laps down. We'll get the official word from NASCAR. But Jimmy is back out there operates track yet again he's being shown thirty four laps down a. -cially? There is still time for those of you who like to enter the goodies race to the money contest here. Late teen mighty you. Don't grand prize. I'm sure by now a trip to the nineteen Ninety-one Daytona five hundred and tickets to all the speed week attractions. We've got tickets to the ninety one Daytona five hundred and the goodies three hundred and escorted tour of the NASCAR Winston Cup garage area. Accommodations for two people for four nights at the treasurer of in Daytona Beach and fifteen hundred dollars spending money, and there is still time to enter if you'd like to send the front panel from any size package of goodies, headache, powders or goodies extra strength, tablets were. Just write the words goody's headache powders quaint block letters a three by five card. Make sure your name address telephone number at the call letters of your local station. The address is goody streets for the money post office box two eight eight Daytona Beach, Florida three two one one five seeing it down speed. I wonder what happened to somebody said that it was plain block. Here's what if they write it out long hand magin, they would still do or taken as I would knowing Tom Chambers and the guys at his would there still showing six cars on the lead lap at lap. Three sixty. We had a pretty good rundown. We're now at leapt three seventy one so that was eleven laps ago. But not a whole lot his change in the top five with Bill Elliott setting the pace Allen Kalicki now moving up to second stolley Marlin dropping back to third fourth. Kenny Schrader take traders had a good run here today. Also that team is another one turned around and recent weeks, and we'll talk about that Harry Gant has had consistent strong car all day long. He is currently fifth and six is Geoff Bodine. Those are the only cars on the lead lap out of turnover. Four and back into the front straightaway. Alan Kalicki is a leader. He's a head of Bill Elliott by some three or four car links Sterling Marlin now slides back to the third place. Fourth is Harry Gant and fifth continuing to run pretty strong out. There is Kenny Schrader Schroeder said the other day this been a good track for him here. Rockingham spy. The fact that he'd rectal times this is one of them best treks enjoy running. Here we run fourth or third here. His third in the spring. And we started last we had us a backup car now that we kill two cars here we killed one week week before the race testing. And we hurt one of Friday after we'd are a qualified, but I really liked this place. And I was look forward coming here. You can reach up some cars at this racetrack over the years. We've seen a lot of cars get really buying up. The turns wanted to use the trouble spots. But today, it hasn't been that bad because if you go off in that corner to wide is almost certain somebody's gonna end up in the wall or used to be when the track is kind of slippery over there, and dick you had some great runs at this track. You come close to winning here timer to over the years. The drivers talk about the track just falling out from under you going out of turn to. And that's you see more accidents. Right. They're coming out into that straight away. And you'd think that would be the easy part of this racetrack. But it isn't. If you can strive turnover they're coming down oppressed grade away and come off the fourth turn. And you got you don't have a tight turn the long sweeping turn. But it's the circle down the front straightaway. As you go down. There you go into the first turn as we said earlier, you're already turn when you go down. And so it's fine. We come back straightaway. It just seemed like I don't know how to describe it somebody, but you have to hold the car down a lot longer than you would want to it looks like, and you mind, or you mind said well, you're around or you can let the car start drift. But when you do you get up, and you run out of Bank, and and the car get loose on you over there. I keep hearing a minute corners talking about pocket loose out of back straight aware coming off a second. What happened there just a little bit too? High too quick guys at all down tight are really really humping down the back straightaway. They don't slip scrub up, and he speaks treacherous place over there. I've seen card right from Washington. Never done it. I've seen part right in front of me. That would big on long straight. Just all of a sudden just driving wall happens an awful lot. I guess that's probably the only place over there. I've never hit and every hit that shouldn't make fun though. Because dick Brooks finished highest third. A couple of times in Winston Cup races. Here had a fourth about three or four top five. Finishes addition to that. So dick books get around this racetrack. And I was looking to on the Unocal pit crew race some years ago. Dick Brooks, Judy Don Levy one that event. Also, I didn't realize that yesterday until we kind of looking back through the record book on that one. The folks who keep up with the Unocal seventy six competition the pick through competition, which is the only officially sanctioned competition by NASCAR to determine which is the fastest pit through the business. Bill. Elliott's team wanted yesterday with chief Mike bean they dumped in fourteen gallons of gas seven out of two separate cans and change all four tires. They did it in twenty four point zero zero two seconds. That wasn't a record the world record was I think twenty three point eight eight. Eight seconds that held by the Walter team with Jeff Hammond about a year ago in nineteen eighty nine. I want it. Second place was the Budweiser Ford of Tim brewer and third was the handling of Davey. Allison in that pit through competition. Let's go to pit road. I didn't know that paper went that far back. But we did when at one time with Donald Levy how it is. You get a ring union oil gives you a ring when you win it. And then if you win again, it's gonna place you put a diamond in the next time. You went put another diamond at one ring, then you, and you can came in diamond stood my rings been on long that day. It's brought up around hard to see them fingers grown over the ring. So I'm not sure if that was age the ring three-ton or something else has happened. But it was a long Keisha dunlap's disease finger laps overs ring. And so well, whatever. Won't say the great battles on the racetrack. Right now is Ernie Irvine trying to stay on the lap down is he was just two laps down is now on the tail end of being one lap down to the race leader, Alan Kalicki, and those two cars have been battling hammer and Tong here. The last short while and right now Joe more they settled down but Kalicki Ernie quite a battle going still pretty tight though. Couple of Carling separate the two urban take it a little bit more unusual line to the quarter. He comes into turn one is kind of slides at the banking as if he was on a dirt track, whereas Wicky sticking lower more conservative line dental the inside of the track, but at least for now still urban stays at Wicky three hundred ninety six laps around the board. We have now gone some eighty miles under green flag conditions since last. We had a pitstop for all the race leaders Winston Kelly if he news normal calculations here we should be within shouting distance of the next green flag. Stop stop after about ninety lap. There. There were one hundred eighty laps lifted. Registering laugh bosses black exactly about halfway between last flag on that three twelve the end of the on that four ninety two. Five to ten let's away from next head stops. Alan quickies leader, he just crossed the start finish line. Bill Elliott pulled up there really close the gap on him in the last five or ten laps. But it appears right now that has no intention of trying to take the lead away just wants to stay within striking distance. And I guess a lot of times when you run that close on a driver that you're going to have to maybe battle with the win at the end. You wanna take a real close look in the corner to see if he has any handling problems where the car has a weak point or whatever. So for the moment Elliott says I'll stay right where I'm at a couple of Ford's here leading the AC Delco five hundred Alan Kalicki looking for his first win nineteen ninety swings over to turn to. He's got a position now working to the outside of Martin wept machine. Elliott makes you save move to the outside to go by Martin. So the Winston Cup point leader goes to lapse down. Now Kalicki Elliott bypass Barton at the end of the back straightaway. Working another pack of about twelve cars right in front of the leaders Baylor. Hardest running in ninth place. Mark Martin running in fourteenth position. At this juncture on lap number four hundred a few moments ago. Alan Koichi turned a lap of one hundred forty one point five five zero miles an hour. That's still not quick enough to grab the Holly farms lickety-split award away from Kenny Schrader who turned a lap of one forty three point nine earlier this afternoon. So Schrader leads the Holly farms award as he we begin green flag. Pitstops Harry, Gant is in let's cover his stuff. Side on going around going. Also, right side. The left side off and back on they've got full of you. And just read it in drop it down and drop down the way of four towers and build up if all these stops come under green. I don't think there's much doubt that everybody will take on four brand new tires here for that final stretch of running where they could maybe go the distance gas. Why I don't think that have any problem? Here comes the more cars, they owe Jarrett is making his stop Allan Kalicki is on pit road right now. Mark Martin comes in along with Terry Labonte, Jim Phillips. Boarded? They've it up gonna change all four tires of the automobile clicking. Another cashier. Just take three rounds of wedge out to still what type of besa car was to go. The wall. Daughter had this problem all day long picnic wall bar for this particular track. Today, we have got away with his four times. Meanwhile, on the back pitch Winston Kelly is there Jimmy means the only having stopped at this point. Moreland crew has the pit for it out author the pit out for Larry and Richard petty there. He's going to get four late on that several again, we're still waiting on the throwing running vision to come in for Bill Eliot brings his car on the pit road along with some of the other top contenders alert heart as Ricky Rudd is and Morgan shepherd is in dick Brooks wicked just stopped and change the four tires on his car gun going rusty Wallace who spending in one of Allah quickest, crew members was out picking up. Lug nuts. Rusty Ed to stop the hidden companyman twenty minute Killian on a thing. The now he's ready to go Bill Elliott down and away with his car. They've filled it up the fuel tank tires on Pete while breakfast dine had problems on his stop as he overshot the pit. And I believe only got fuel in the car, Jim Phillips. Cost to Madeira. Walter tried to go without new tires. What happened to him? He lost ten or twelve Spock about twelve could happen to him. Ricky Rudd into tires guests. His also Michael Waltrip has been mortgage. Jeopardy has service. They've all Kenny Schrader had been posted as leader. Now. He brings his car on pit road down in front of dick Brooks change. Going to change the tires on his car. Get him back on a racetrack. Just about I dropped him down as he drives away. Tell him up with Brett Bodine's back in Jim Phillips. Side and chase the white drive by. Show threatful on. Rick growth of Vince. So these routine pitstops they're coming under green flag conditions, and assuming this race would stay green berry likely everybody out there would be able to go the distance without making another stop. If they don't have any problems. Jeff booed. I will be the last of the cars on the lead lap to make his stop as the. But wise Ford pulls into the junior Johnson pits. Let's cover that stop. Board on him up getting going been spreading with at Clairol. We're not doing chassis work on less. They've changed the stagger. The dyers a little bit right sites done to the left side. And got it. So Bill Elliott has now reassumed the lead here. The running of the bilko five hundred Elliott has between turns three and four Allan Koichi his running in second. Harry Gant third. We'll get the interval for you. Here comes Elliot to the stripe behind Ernie urban. As we start the stopwatch Kalicki is back one point five seven seconds behind co at one and a half seconds of first place back to second. As Bill Elliott now mixed move around Ernie urban, scar to put the Kodak film Chevrolet a lap down. And just before those pitstops came out to keep you breast of Halloween. Cut battles going for the championship between Dale Earnhardt and Mark Martin positions air have been anywhere from one to about seven or eight at a given time just before those pitstops come up they had posted Dale Earnhardt back in ninth position and Mark Martin running about fourteenth. So he finished anywhere near that way. Earnhardt. He's almost has to pick up some points here unless Mark Martin should have a mechanical problem Phoenix in a couple of weeks or certain. Atlanta. But he needs to gain support today. They'll you talked to him just like I did he said if we leave here we need to pick up at least fifteen twenty points at least to have a good shot to win the was to Cup championship. Four hundred sixteen laps are on the board here at the North Carolina Motor Speedway Rockingham. Bill Elliott continues to leave the Bill Cole five hundred he has two and three tenths second. John second place runner, Abbott Kubicki Sterling Marlin with a strong run all day. He's in third with Harry Gant fourth Ken, Schrader fifth and sixth blogging to Geoff Bodine. Those six cars are on the lead laugh, the true value hard charger award. Alan Kalicki who was second in the race has taken over the lead in the true value hard charger award from Kyle petty. If you just joining us Kyle was dominant all afternoon long within the problem to the hood of the car has relegated him well back in the running order. He had lost some ten or so lapsed during repairs to the peak Pontiac but with four hundred eighteen laps now complete. We are. Closing what should be a pretty good finish here. As haven't Kalicki is biding his time. Waiting to take that last shot at Bill Elliott Hammy attrition list is just grown by one more car. Rusty Wallace is headed to the garage area. Rusty a lot of smoke. What happen dropped a valve? And ancient engine blew up real. Well, today got all imprompt fixing. It's going to work in valves. Now. Rusty wallace. He will not finish AC deal. Go five hundred or they what a contrast them last season. They came here going for the Winston Cup championship. And this year just about everything that can happen to them seems to have happened. Of course, rusty you'll be moving onto something different in the year. Nineteen ninety one the different team members be going their own separate ways buried Dotson going with a brand new team. That's just been formed in recent weeks. But what a difference a year makes I signed on the air at this race one year ago, rusty let Dale Earnhardt by thirty seven points now, obviously he is not anywhere near the battle for the lead. He and Kyle petty were battling for fifth and sixth than which Cup points. And both men have had their problems hitter day from North Carolina Motor Speedway. This is MR in radio for back at the North Carolina Motor Speedway. Bill Elliott continues to set the pace. Nobody's been able to match Allen Kalicki's been within about a little better. Just a little less than a second behind chop that down now to about seven or eight Carly's closes in a little more overturned three moving down now to the low groove on the racetrack. Is they bypass the Tommy KENDALL car will make it about two Carling's as they work back to the stripe here Cup. The cars with Bill Elliott again about a Carleen ahead of Kubicki four hundred thirty one going up on the board of four Ninety-two. But again as they work traffic. There's no challenge for the leave Elliot had to work traffic allowed to close in. The Dow both cars are clear that traffic at who Whitney is just inches up here. Deck of Elliot. The next car they'll encounter the Darrell Waltrip car some twenty twenty-five Carling's ahead now as heart makes contact with a lap car in turn three almost shot up. The racetrack got the car back under control and Allen Kalicki. Just tapped the wall coming off turn before just scrubbed it because we saw little smoke come from that car. And that might be a problem for him. He's heading for turn to the Carsley to be handling. Well, he's still there at the bottom of the race track along with Elliott Elliott getaway locked right on Elliott's back bumper not even half a car link between Elliot and kooky the entrance of turn number three. Both hugging the bottom of the racetrack. As they climb up off the corner couple of four Funda birds battling for the win here at Rockingham. With still plenty of Racine ago to the stripe. Mama's a little rub there on the side of co Wicky car. Barney night is peering down on it. But it doesn't seem to be hurting. All Joe Elliott puts the knows the car to the side of the race track. While Wicky goes down low. They make contact you're on the backstretch who Wicky goes to the bottom of Elliott trying to get a piece of the lead contact is made they both get back in line. Elliott will hold the lead Wicky will fall into second quickey came out of that throttle in a hurry. When Elliot came over and used up little racetrack in the made contact there. Now, Alan falls back to three-car links behind their back in one last time to get down to the inside of the racetrack at grab some space Delhi this. There was not enough space down there. This time it cools his heels a little bit back live out a car like the race leader trying to draw back up on Elliott's back bumper they come to the entrance of turnover. Three both looking good at the bottom of the racetrack. Right now, we'll make it a car length and a half off the corner as a comeback off turn number four. This is going to be potentially the fifth straight win for a Ford. Thunderbird in Winston Cup racing. Again is racing to go left four thirty five of four hundred ninety two and he explained turnaround like that for years statistically, if nothing else who has so many more GM products in there were Ford foot the birds, and I guess that probably contributes now we're seeing more competitive Ford racing teams, but to be looking at a potential fifth straight forward winds boast unusual in this series. You got as many Ford teams now as you have technology spills one team to nother back several years ago. Maybe they're really only three teams top four teams really had a shot to win. Now. All of a sudden, there's at least four or five as we said when one teen learn something, it usually spills over to the other Alan Kalicki's gonna take a look on the outside for the lead in turn three draws alongside Elliott sport. Now their door to door as they go at three and four Kalicki try to get a run up off the corner. But Elliott stays down low. He'll try to use the low side to his advantage. The forks though, habitually worked betters stay round up at the stripe. Co Wicky let that lap by inches. And they battled back at a turn. Number one. For the me. What east L is out in? When he goes up the baking quite a bit higher. Does Elliott this time he clears alad coup. Wicky takes the lead Wicky all the way up to the outside wall shuts the door on Elliott and immediately opens up about two car lengths on Elliott now. So we'll put Kalicki to the front is come through the corner. Allen Kalicki in front, but Kenny stay. There has plenty of time yet for Bill Elliott to get back up there and take that lead away. But they've been putting on a pretty good battle for the fans here this afternoon every seat in the place sold out earlier here before the race began Alan Kalicki out of turnover to Bill Elliott just a foot or so behind him take a little further back in the running order, Sterling Marlin still being posted back there. In third position. Harry Gant fourth straight her fifth and the last car shown on the lead lap is Jeff Bonein in seventh position that is Ricky Rudd. He is a lap down. That battle continues back to the stripe. Bill Elliott just one car link back in eighth position is Morgan shepherd night. This Darrell Waltrip to left's now in tenth place right now is Dale Earnhardt. And Mark Martin is being shown in eleventh. He also is two laps down. So those two running just one spot apart. Twelve as poppy Hillen thirteen thirty urban fourteenth. Jerry LA Bundy fifteenth is Brett Bodine three laps down at sixteenth stale Jarrett seventeenth Michael Waltrip eighteenth position five laps back is Rick Wilson. He's there along with the Rick mast and the Tommy KENDALL machine. Correct myself. That'll be Larry Pearson being shown twentieth spot. He is some five laps down to the race leader this watching some of the teams on pit road. Trying to pick up any extra sticker tires that. They can brand new non scuff tires. Harry Gant crew just coming back with four fresh tires to the school pit area that too could be factors. Go down the stretch. Although it's not really expected that we would have to see at least degreen flag conditions. Another pitstop. They should be able to go the distance. I don't think we'll see anybody unless they have a caution. I'm pretty sure unless somebody has a problem we won't see anymore. Green flag stops this afternoon. Perhaps we can get one of our pit reporters to ease over in the Bill Elliott's pit we haven't talked with crew members today, maybe might be the crew chief can give us an idea if. Bill Elliott telling him that he still got a good shot to win this race or Fallon Kalicki is just that strong or whatever here in the next few laps around this racetrack Kalicki across the line puts another lap on the board as he goes back into one and two and again, this is the time they when that sun and gets in your eyes a little bit down there in the corner. We've heard the drivers talk about that over the years and the sun is move far far west year at Rockingham afternoon right now as the afternoon is just about gone by heading back to tournament. Three Kalicki still the leader to Carling's back rides Bill Elliott still outstanding run for Sterling Marlin and that Sonoko team here today he rides in third place. Although he isn't within a straightaway of catching up to the leaders are back in one two cars at back to turn over one both parts handling equally as well. Both thinking almost identical lines as work around. Some of the slower traffic is getting around the Rick Jeffrey's car rose again awarded shepherd beginning to close on the motor craft Ford now interns three and four moving up back off the corner down to complete another lap four hundred forty five going up on the board of four. One hundred ninety two you just mentioned Sterling Marlin we've been talking about them all day long. As one of those non Winston Cup winners far a points races concerned who has acquitted himself quite well. You up you up in junior Johnson country Barney up there in Wilkes county. What's been the reaction and all seems everybody up in your areas? A big race fan. They follow juniors team at all what's been the reaction. Among the locals has to junior going with the second car and sterling as the driver. Well, it's been real interesting up there lot of folks have said, you know, why does he go to two teams again when the head at one time before didn't have all that much success, but junior wants to try to partly one more time. It's a good deal. Sterling now, one of the most promising young drivers to come along. He has an awful lot of folks in the shop. He has a space over there to work on cars, obviously, they have the resources to do it. So wanna try it one more time, and Rick Hendrix has proven that you can have three teams and have winter. So I I wouldn't bet against junior winning races with both teams next year. I think they will a chump. So it's going to be a far closer union of the teams, and it was the last. Around when Neil bonnets car was in one shop and the other car Dowell across the creek. So to speak one understand it's going to be basically overseen both cars by Tim Brurn worked side by side. Yeah. That's pretty well what we hear. I'm kind of hope things work out across the creek instead of up the creek in. I'm sure for that team. We have cautioned on the speedway here at Rockingham for the sixth time on lap. Four fifty one the incidents in front of Joe more. Rick bass to the Bank with foods Chevrolet, just lost it by himself spotted side here at the middle of turns one and two Jack Pennington a real good job. Getting on the brakes to avoid slamming into the side of mask, fastest lost control. The car slid down to the inside of the racetrack. He is now refired the card drives away. This is going to change the strategy for everybody. And it's going to be a break for some of the drivers who had fallen more than a straight away behind six cars. Still on the lead lap and everybody likely if the leader or the front couple of cars hit pit road is for sure that everybody else will to pace cars already picked him up there working through three and four. And let's see if Allen Kalicki the leader decides to bring his car in the pits. If he does I'm sure the other cars will follow. He does. He peels off the banking up intern before and everybody directly behind all the six cars on the lead lap. Follow him down pit road. Kalicki is in Bill Elliott, Dale Earnhardt, Mark Martin is in Ernie Irvine Dale Jarrett. Let's cover some of those stops. Dick brooks. Sense here. They got the right side off already in there foot. But on the tires are going to do four tires Bill. Elliott said his windshield. Awful messed up trying to claim form that the right side going going on it. Now, I think everybody down through we've been talking about trying to get back on. Away elliott. Jim phillips. They learn hard and Mark Martin both get before fire time Ricky Rudd has been at a still had little problem. The left of his car. He's down out away. Jerry getting four tires. Michael Waltrip is in also mortgage shepherd and Jimmy Hensley all the same service four tires and gasoline now the third place runner Sterling Marlin is pitting on the back pit area. Winston Kelly putting tires on. Tire out mobile state. Loyd told us earlier that they did not want to caution. However. Later, five of nine seconds. Four tires twenty five point four seconds body. Hillen off getting four tires. Gasoline along Walter very Pearson. Richard panik, Jack Pennington and Jimmy means all getting four tires and gasoline disadvantage. Having to pit on the back straightaway at any racetrack in that is going to cost early Marlin. Although, of course, he's one of the cars on the lead lap currently been running in third place. He should be able to move back up with those cars on the lead lap. But nevertheless, he has to give up some track position. And it is a little bit frustrating. He just didn't quote qualify. Well enough to get the pit on the front stretch the deal comeback on the race track and six after going onto pit lane third. But you know, there's really there seems to be no better way to do it when you have just twenty three or in this case twenty six pitch dolls on the front straightaway. The higher qualifying cars have their pick. I and those that are left have to put on the back pit area. And that just as the way it seems to work here. Meanwhile, we go back to Jim Phillips. Why understands just gotten word on the western auto mechanic of the race certainly do lie in Richard Broome giddy. Traders team has been named mechanic of the race. The western auto. The race thousand dollars to you, Richard. Well, certainly appreciate that. I can use all the money you can give me. But these this crew here's done this for me. I don't deserve that. And this could lead up to twenty five thousand dollars toward the end of the season. Hey that baguette need that. That's Richard rue the western auto mechanic all the race AC Delco five hundred and has that little scene unfold on pit road. We're getting the indication one more lap in this race. We'll go back to green hopefully to conclusion maybe we can run it cautioned free down to checkered flag, certainly hope. So and all those pitstops now been made everybody has on fresh rubber and a tank of gasoline ready to get at it. We're hope to get a word from the pits in just a moment on the Bill Elliott team dick Brooks was there. But he had to leave to go down to cover some of those pitstops and find out what his team thinks about if he can catch Alan Kalicki. They're forming up for that restart over. Intern three bites are off on top of the Pontiac grand prix safety car, elbow likely makes the hard left turned out of the back entrance to the pit area. Allen Kalicki will lead them down. Elliott's second Gant third Reiter fourth Geoff Bodine fifth Sterling Marlin his six atop the league the lapped down cars in the inside row. Dale Earnhardt, Mark Martin if they can get back on the lead lap and maybe poll yet another caution flag here boy with that ever change the situation with thirty six laps to go here at the North Carolina Motor Speedway and Rockingham. Snail's pace right now out of turn four waiting for the green from oil Ford there at goes, everybody flares out back to racing quickey quickly on the jump and he is going to try and keep Earnhardt lap down. But it may not work Earnhardt pools. Even Dow pools ahead Dale Earnhardt gets back on the tail of lean. Lead inside. We'll go down of the inside of quickies. They come down the back straightaway. But cookie is strong. He'll clearly pulling ahead of Martin who'll get inbetween Kalicki Elliott, intern four Earnhardt strong brand new tires proven that several times this afternoon as the race goes on. He seems to get a little bit more problems handling in the corners. But for the moment, he's got himself back on the lead lap. Mark. Martin wasn't able to do it. Kalicki takes them back to two Wicky leads the live and he's about three Carlos behind her heart v while behind him Elliott is battling with Morton to keep him. Town. Elliot will go to the outside of Martin to try and get back up with leader Wicky. He'll clear the Martin car. Harry cannon Ken, Schrader, go to the outside of Barton as well. Everybody picking their way through the traffic and around turn number four back to the stripe. Co Wicky continues to lead already Earnhardt pulling away by some four or five car lanes. Now from co Wicky day it was on the tail of the lap at once a caution Earnhardt now turn to and on his way down the back straightaway. He's opened up a goodly distance on Kalicki. We'll call it about five Carling's back to. Elliot, another five Carling's back to get as Ken Schrader and Ernie urban around Mark Martin Sterling Marlin with a problem in turn four Marlin drifts, real high a car swings up in front of him. He has to get on the binders for just a second. Now, he seems to be back up to speed. Let's see what he does is. He hits Turner to one what he's going to be able to maintain the speed. Nope. That car does have the problem. It goes way high again and turns one and two several cars get buys bartered Holte outs on the racetrack. Terry in the body gets by Brett Bodine closers in Marlin comes past his pit stall on the back straightaway. And they bring the board out over the wall. Perhaps a tire problem for Marlin is everyone else goes by him in turn four thousand field. Works back to the stripe. Four hundred fifty laps on the board. We are now getting confirmation from NASCAR scoring that. Dale Earnhardt was two laps down at has got one of those laps back. So we still one lap in arrears to the race leader co Wicky, let's reset it for you. It is co Wicky with Bill Elliott, Harry, Gant, Ken, Schrader, Geoff Bodine and Sterling Marlin as the car. Cars on the lead lap. One lap down there showing Ricky Rudd Morgan shepherd. Darrell Waltrip, they are showing both Daryl to me, Dale Earnhardt, Mark. Morton two laps down upon this restart. So now Earnhardt as one lap down to the race leader album Komaki, I've left four fifty one Kalicki takes it back to turn three Bill Elliott just sits there both up and taking pretty much the same line through turns three and four and one and two Elliott some four car links behind the laps wind down this week back to turn one about five colleagues behind Elliott. He sits the third spot that Kenny Schrader is about five Carlex behind these also separated from gamma Verney Irvine not having very good handling car right now driving through this end of the race track. Mark Martin Ricky Rudd goes by jetboat. I just went by now Morgan shepherd's gonna go by Martin's cargo and all the way up the racetrack field back to the stripe again, four sixty three going up on the board that still the top six cars remaining on the lead lap. When. Hurling Marlin slow the short while ago. It did not cost him a position on the racetrack. But certainly did cost him some real estate in relation to the leaders. Joe sterling seems running well again Carsley hooked up. Well, right there at the bottom of the race track. Now these finally got back under control. He's holding spot there in dine. Then it doesn't seem to be a lot of activity or a really excitement or apprehension down on pit road over their mobile to go as we watching Bill. Elliott's crew. Let's go to Winston Kelly the problem moments darling Marling car into strolling vibration on the car thought he had a tire going down must have gone away. Rubber bill. One of the players. That he is far back in the pack right now and a long way some catching up and battling for the lead. Is this one comes down to conclusion here this afternoon across the line? Allen quickey puts another lap on the board goes back into turn one Bill Elliott. They're just a couple of car links back and dick rooks you've been around at team for the last half hour. So they don't seem to be all that concerned. Do they? Mike. Learn anything. Well, we keep jacking home car all day, you know, putting by taking it out. Went one way real extreme with. Back by halfway. I don't know. Allen office, Rome, you know. The aunt said a word. Hopefully best car away. Well, they're sitting here. They've been in his position awful lot. The last four five years. I guess he's right. The best guards going to win. Well, they get still plenty of laps left to get it done in. It's going to be interesting to see if Kalicki's car stays as solid as it has all afternoon after putting on new rubber and we're seeing him drift a little bit high over interns wanted to cut the car real strong coming out of the corner. So it's still getting good bite and working. Well, they're backing three three car links. Leon Elliot both Kalicki and Elliott bypass Dale Earnhardt to put him back to lapse down. Harry Gant still working traffic about ten car lengths back when co Wicky went really wide the moment or show ago. He went around Rick Jeffries automobile trying to give himself as much room as he can from the arc of heterogenous. Now making the jump to Winston Cup racing with sponsorship from Kentucky Fried Chicken. We are less than twenty laps away. From the conclusion of the AC Delco five hundred two stories that are being unfolded in front of us at the moment will Allen kotecki hold off Bill Elliott, and what about the point separation between Dale Earnhardt and the. Winston Cup point lead. Mark martin. If the race would end at this very moment. Earnhardt would pick up only four points on Mark Martin they are separated by one position tenth and eleven respectively right now. And at that point of the Winston Cup point separation. You see a four point drop off by position. So that be just a four point gain for daler March the race not change position wise from where we sit at the moment, and he really really thought he could pick up some points here this weekend on Mark Martin had high hopes doing it. But so far as you said, it looks like maybe only four points if they continue to run as they are the leader is still Alan kooky has been a pretty flawless day for him since about three hundred lap Mark here. And for the moment he continues to enjoy the lead Bill Elliott still within striking distance. Whether he has anything left for him or not as Mike beam told dick Brooks, cheap one. I call a moment ago. We don't know just have to wait and see says Bill doesn't say a whole lot. And sometimes he really doesn't man was your close quarter ration- coming out of turn four as Schrader earn. Heart and Gant ran up on the lapped car of Chad little nobody wanted to give him. They don't wanna give again, canton Schrader racing position Earnhardt JR. This along for the ride now. Chad little goes through the inside four wide on the backstretch. Harry Gant wisely is going to lift onto that let Schrader get straightened out. Kenny's car broke loose off the quarter. Now, they'll fall in line single file off four and that will be the battle for third place. Gant drops down to the end side see some daylight there. But Dale Earnhardt slept cars directly ahead of the game. Harry me have to come out of the throttle. Intern. One Schrader goes into the high groove Earnhardt goes way, a pie the car get sideways. Almost shredder comes out with the spot. Over Gant, Gant try to rally back on the inside though. He'll wind the Olivia up and get it to a dead heat down the end of the back straightaway traitor in the high side gamble go down low for third as Harry mix for third spot. The difference between Wikki Elliott stabilizing at about fifteen car lanes here at the stripe third-place in question gin holds off the challenge, but traitor once again, Kenny Schrader got the line there on the inside of the race track. While Harry, Gant goes a little. Higher the group off the quarter Scott the spot for now this time at the end of the back straightaway. Harry Gant gonna open up about two car lengths over Ken Schrader. So that'll settle down. Just for the moment. Gad brings his car back to the bottom of the racetrack that closed the door on Schrader looks like for the moment. The fans are forgotten the battle for the between Bill Elliott and Alan Wicky. The kind of racing has been going on between Harry, Gant and Kenny Schrader for the moment. It settles out just a bit one Carling separate, Harry, Gant and Kenny Schrader intern to file for now. But again Schrader peach looking down the inside of the track twine to get a line underneath Gand Schrader try to hang onto Ganz back bumper they come to the entrance of turnover. Three now. Both trying to get that very lowest groove on the racetrack off the corner come back to the stripe. It'll be ten laps next time by with the differential of four tenths of a second from first place back to second Wicky to Bill Elliott, then Harrigan Ken Schrader, Geoff Bodine and Sterling Marlin those cars on the lead lap is we wind torture conclusion. The leaders are up in three Alan Kalicki coming up on the Jack Pennington car now. He'll go to the outside to try and put a lap on the rookie contender not a whole lot of traffic directly ahead of Allan quickey can move around. Maybe two or three cars you'll have pretty clear sailing all the way down to the Czech flag. So traffic shouldn't be a factor between himself and Bill. Elliott. Meanwhile, battled for third still tight when they working back to turn. One single file Harry Gant holding to third spot with Ken Schrader directly behind him while battle for the lead. Barring think may come down to something you pointed out earlier today in that Bill Elliott may be saving something dentist. The few laps ago. He was white up the rear deck of Albuquerque that he drops back for a few laps, but seems like will alien pan close on Kalicki for now he sees? There are some laps to go about twelve remaining. So he's seem to hold a spot for now. We'll have to wait and see venture case they weren't that traffic at around. Tom kindle, all turn to and the other thing keeping an eye on the back straightaway. Dale earnhardt's car is suddenly become ill handling. Here comes Mark Martin to the outside of Earnhardt. This should be battled for position Martin to the outside of Earnhardt at the end of the back straightaway. Dry. To keep removing any points Earnhardt there side by side. And for Ernie Irvan is there Earnhardt and Martin. They're all battling for position nine ten and eleven to lapsed out the leaders at the stripe Earnhardt side by side with Martin at Ernie urban sneaks through Irvine's got the spot going into the quarter of it's still the battle directly behind him Earnhardt and Mark Martin. They're side by side off the corner and onto the back straightaway. Earnhardt is on the inside Martin is on the outside. It's dead heat of the entrance that turn number three. They go cleanly side-by-side halfway through the quarter at onto the straightaway. And all of a sudden the fans are watching a couple of cars lapsed down go at it here in the final stages of the Delco five hundred back into turn one Earnhardt down to the inside Martin on the high side Martin price to hold car down low, but not too low because Earnhardt is directly underneath it off the corner of the Goodrich Chevrolet gets the edge. They come up on some lab traffic. Now, they go to the outside of the Jeffrey car Earnhardt will pull up in front of Martin Martin has to give way the traffic intern three Sterling Marlin across the stripe spoke now begins to show. From behind the Sonoko Oldsmobile even more so than we've talked to that in the last few laps. We'll see if he can hold on Bobby hill and trying to hold on as he and Rick Wilson came awfully close together in turn four hillin's car by all rights should have gone around that he managed to save piece of driving to keep it in a straight line at just about turn around and went into the outside wall. Here's a big plume of smoke out of Sterling Marlin Sonoko machine, and he may be in the garage. Checkered flag comes down way off the pace heading for turn one bit smoking in the last five laps or so he's keep the car down the lower group. You can hear that. The shame missing as it comes by us in turn. Also Brett Bodine's showing some smoke out of the Quaker state Buick while Wicky lead over Bill Elliott has steady that battle for third rages on Ken Schrader in Harry, Gant going back at it. Again, last time by Schrader was underneath Gad. Harry continues to try and hold him off their interns for the come back to the stripe. Traitor wants to peak to the inside four hundred and eighty eight laps on the board at the stripe Gant holds off Schrader again for third and fourth. Spot further back the daler in heart. Mark Martin Ernie urban battle that what has been ongoing here with the moment. It's urban having pulled away from Earnhardt and Martin four hundred eighty eight laps on the board four eighty nine this time by and what a big win. This would be for Allen Kalicki, if you can hang on hell, he still looking for that first win and the year nineteen ninety fit like you might be trouble. Intern for Darrell Waltrip spins in front of Morgan shepherd locks the car town in the middle of the race track. All the traffic will clear, but Walter spins to the bottom of the corner. Put us under yellow flag conditions caution is onto speedway Darrell Waltrip turned it all the way around almost backed up into the outside wall. But just kept it locked up. Good piece of driving by several reiver's to keep from colliding with their Walter becomes on around the speedway. But it has brought the caution out and this may change the complexion on everything. Well, I would guess now at four ninety that's going to do it for the race Barney because it'll be white flag next time. And then the checker the next time pies. So Alan co Wicky who had come around and take. The white flag. This time on my four ninety one to that spin his going to end us under caution. Because if I'm not mistaken soon, the scoreboard is correct. We'll have white flag. This next time by has lead cars are being picked up by Elmo Langley in the Pontiac grand prix. Turbo. And indeed the case Doyle Ford has the white flag in hand and Allen co Wicky his going to take the white and Schreyer's going down pit road. Kenny Schrader who is in fourth behind. Harry Gant is going to go down pit road. Make a stop and he will lose position or two in likely end up six the're in the doco five hundred what a finish let's get onto dick Brooks day. There's an awful lot of a lot of jumping. And some of these girls has been standing around here with both hands with all four fingers crossed on each hand. And lot of congratulations going on here. When we're looking at kitty Slater's, he'll Dickey just brought it in just die. Off the corner up there. It will be a lap or so one more lap around and Allen Kalicki. We'll take the checkered flag and beheading victory lane. And there will be some happiness, but they did change right side rubber on KENNY'S raiders car. So apparently had a tire problem in the late stages and boy after running as hard as he did what two or three spots. Anyway. Yeah, he'll lose a couple of spots. I would assume he will certainly be bypassed by Geoff Bodine, and by Sterling Marlin, I would assume and we'll get a verification on scoring, but certainly Schrader will lose one spot and here, they come towards the stripe. The checkered flag will be on furled by Doyle Ford. The second. Winston Cup win for Alan co Wicky he had won some fifty five races ago. Phoenix Arizona in nineteen eighty eight and under caution alum smiles and waves to the crowd. And now the jumping begins Paul Andrews. And the wreck sport crew celebrate with dick Brooks down there on pit road. Do doctor in a minute air. But I'm not getting this mess. Yet. These are bunch of happy boys day, they they've been just sitting here with all fingers crossed for the last last few minutes. I'll be with them in minute the longtime since Allen Kalicki has been into victory lane. Well, everybody's waiting for Alan to come up in victory lane. There's nobody here. So while they wait on Allan Koichi. Let's go to the gas pumps where Winston Kelly and Jim Phillips standing by fellas. We have Bill Elliott here. Second place finish forty day. Bill early in the race. It looked like he could pull up there and take you to the end. He had a little bit too much for you. Well, Allen, Ron a good, right? I was glad to see Moyen. You. It's been a long time long struggle barring. I know count how you pay you'll. But you know, we had a good day. The crew had a hell of a good job. And I'm just fine. But we came home while one pace. We'll get ready to go to paintings next week. How about your car today? A lot of people were complaining through cars being too tight today at this racetrack. But it's still one by Allen with just Rayo good. He was about the same three and four and he has a little better. I was wanting to. But man, he ran a good, right? Alongside. That's Bill Elliott the second place finisher here today, the AC Delco five hundred now we see Kalicki's car now heading for victory lane a little bit late getting there. But better late the never as Allen quickey as just picked up the wind here and the AC Delco five hundred dick Brooks will be with him and just a minute maid. Let's check in with Winston Kelly. We're standing with Harry, Gant who came home third of a battle there with Kenny Schrader. Yeah. It was you know, as him then me that's odd beside but we managed to get little head coaching came out. And it was I tell you when you walked up here. He does live in comment about it there. You know, having to slow up a lot to behind me, then celebrated was pretty slick million. Both was trying to get to bottom of his heart. Harry had a good rice Guinea came up, and he kind of jokingly with him said, you pretty good for an old, man. Harry Gant comes on third this afternoon again. Allen Kalicki winter Bill Elliott finished. Second Harry, Gant third fourth to Jeff Bodine unofficially fifth. Looks like Kenny Schrader and six would be Sterling Marlin. Let's go back to victory lane. Well, allinson a car is just getting ready to get out. Getting a few hats and stuff ain't got a little problem getting up here. I think they blocked him off down by the gas pumps. Couldn't get her Allan ways minutes. They're going to be a good day, man. This makes it all worth while. You know, we battled so hard so long this year to come back. And I said we had a good team in a good car. And we ran good all day. You know, we ran a clean race. Didn't have any problems. We had good pits. Dots guys in a crew did an excellent job and Paul Andrews. Danny glad Ken Lang for Tony Gibson all the guys on the crew. Digress was changing tires force. Everybody did a good job. It was a team effort, and we just put the gather a whole good rates today. Five hundred good miles. And I got a thank my spot. Zero Santa freeze Napa and Ford Thunderbird Charan great. We just had a good day radio tires work. Good. Everything was fine. I don't I've talked to you to three times remember one in Pocono in a couple of the places that just a heartbreaker right at the end just the last couple apps. Something would happen or something. Did you start feeling any vibrations or here noises? The last few laps this time one time. I thought I did, you know tracks a little bit bumping come off the corner, and you know, the wheels tat or a little bit sometimes. But as a good solid car ran good all day. And you know that caution came out at the end there. But I don't think they're really affected the outcome. And. See Bill Elliott. Dale Earnhardt congratulate me at the end of the race really makes me feel good great day forces working for did you really think you had him beat. I mean you Bill sitting back. There seems like times he was little stronger than other times. Did you have anything left? Now bill's car ran good. But overall, I think our car was a little bit better. You know, Kyle ran real good. We were little bit too tight earlier in the race. But we kept getting better and better, and he had problems, you know, he would have been tough to beat. But we've got plenty of racists Poway over the last two years. And you know, you got to be there at the end. And we were today, we earn this one. Not a short track and speedway. I'm just really proud of the guys in a crew. I sure has not they this cruise happy bunch people. He's worked long time. They've been dissipating this long enough that they're full joy man and letting it out Campbell for that as a well earned victory for Allen Kalicki here this afternoon, and again Bill Elliott will finish second. Harry Gant third fourth to Jeff Bonein and unofficially fifth. Looks like Kenny Schrader boy yet tough look at the end. He really did Kenny Schrader wolf finish in fifth ahead of Sterling Marlin who goes and six rounding out the top ten would be the Ricky Rudd car seventh. Darrell Waltrip eighth ninth to be earning urban and tenth day. Learn heart eleven will be Mark Martin. So at that juncture, you're looking at a four point drop off between the two so we're looking at a forty five point separation unofficially between Mark Martin who leads Dale Earnhardt in the Winston Cup points heading to Phoenix in a couple of weeks time. Let's check back in with Jim Phillips. Well, we cut up. Jeff Bodine, Jeff you finished fourth today. But you had some problems you. Well, that's right. Let me first they had a Kathy. Matt, Barry, Mike. I haven't talked to anyone on a radio TV all weekend say hot back. Home listening el-amal seem while I love we had a good race. So we got way behind really had to fight the car to first couple of two or three runs. Couldn't get it to work. And right came in on the green chains tires. They made some adjustments timber junior crew. And what a car took off. We got back into the lead lap and just pull away from the leaders thought we had a race guy that was going to build a win the race. Then we change the more tars, and we just never could get that same setup back. I don't know what it was. I guess are set up just in Massey's radio tires, quite like, Allen's and bills and guys ahead of us. But the car ran good has stayed together. All day long. Again. The Budweiser pit crew the great job in the pit area. Thank him. And hey, it's not a bad run. Kenny Schrader gave us a little break there at the end. He thought it was a. Five hundred lap race and them in your laugh for candy. He hid it for tires. It would have been a good move. If there's more laughs left, but he ran out of time and we gained a spot. But it was a good safe race. And congratulations, Alan driver. When I for a while. Right. Well, yeah, I lost a contact lens out of my right eye about halfway through the race. And I'm right idea minute. So I'm a little blurb vision the rest of the day, you look blurry wrong with you. Maybe it's me this Jeff owed on the fourth place finishes this afternoon time now for the Marin crew to select the peak performance cool move of the ratio ward winter getting five hundred dollars from peak at a freeze and shumur coolant. There are plenty of those kind of moves afternoon. Joe more your thoughts. Coolest thing all day. Lie was the Morgan McClure team working with Ernie Irvan at numerous problems kept battling back state up there among the front runners, although later on in the race more serious problems put him behind, but I'll vote for the Morgan McClure team, Adam best wick onto Bobby hill. And in that about ten laps to go. So when he got together with Rick Wilson up intern for he should have crashed that race car. Did a great job to keep it off the wall and bring it home in one piece. Let's go to Winston Kelly for a nomination before. Cast my nomination. I've caught up with Kenny Schrader who's getting a hug from daughter Dorothy land Kenya? Good rice, what happened there toward the end when you came in. He thought it was one more lap to gore edging. I don't know if everybody thought, but I thought it man, I made a decision I asked or score how many lamps are how many cars aren't elapse. She said fifth. We were sitting there four that's all chance to maybe go forward. Nuclear can only go back one spot. So I ducked down pit road all strong run there. With Harry, Gant toward the end that had to be some fundraising, Israel fundraising. You know, he can you know, when you're up aside, Harry that he's gonna just crash big time or anything like that. He's is really fun to race with area. I hope he knows comfortable's added. That's Kenny Schrader he came home fifth this afternoon. And I'm gonna throw them on the nation in the direction of Kyle petty. When he came off turn number two lap car. Mike Skinner got a little bit sideways in front of him. And a lot of other lap cars around him. Kyle backed off at that point. Even though he had four five second advantage. He knew there's a lot of time left in the rice. He backed off then made his way around those cars nomination goes to Kyle petty. Jim Phillips will my nomination goes to Kyle pity. But for a different reason altercation he had with Derek COPA the front straightaway. Derek gutted completely sideways that he was leading the race at the time. And he held it didn't lose it. So by vote goes to Kyle petty dick Brooks, well, I'm not going to win. But I seen rusty Wallace. Save a man's life today. And he stalled his car doing it. It was a pretty all. It was an awful good move. He seemed to guy the guy run in front of him. He stopped the only bumped him. So I gotta give it to rusty Wallace. He was heads up driving to argue with that I'm going to nominate Jack Pennington because here's a fellow with limited. Winston Cup experience. And he did a heck of job not to hick hit Rick mast when mashed to a spinning his car up in the corner. So I'm gonna nominate check Pennington for the peak award today. Go along with what dick Burke said on. Rusty Wallace down on pit road. That was some heads driving. So cast my vote in that direction. Well, while we break away. We'll try and sort out the quandary of tie between Kyle petty and rusty Wallace. Let's go down to Winston Kelly. We're standing alongside Mark Martin driver, the folger's coffee, Ford Thunderbird, Mark who's a tough day all day long with the team, and you just kept digging came believe, you know, that. We've you know, we had a streak of ten or twelve races. Where we ran like Jack a bear every week. And it seemed to come easy and then the last two weeks in a row, you know, we've had had trouble. So I don't know, you know, it just goes to show you you never know. I really think that looking forward to taking folger's valvoline Thunderbird Phoenix think we'll you know, we'll have one of the hottest cars out there. I think we can come back here tomorrow, we might have a hot car. But it wouldn't you know, it wasn't hot today. And and I think we know what we did roam what kind of problems. Did you have was at handling today in the motor what? Now, the Motari good. I wish I could've used it off in good shape. Man, I had a house under the hood. But we just never could quite get the car to handle wanted to. Although we did get it a lot better there toward the end. They didn't lose but four points today with these. Bullet poop bulletproof Motors. Jack rouse continues to build they'll be back strong next week the AC Delco five hundred having been won by. Alan co Wicky we have broken the tie on the peak award the shaft in and we will give the five hundred dollars to rusty Wallace. For his heads up piece of driving on the pit lane. Earlier the shaft in the members of the press covering the AC Delco five hundred vote Kyle petty the goodies headache award. So Kyle takes home seven hundred fifty dollars from the folks that goodies manufacturing and two hundred fifty dollars donation going to the Brenner children's hospital. In Winston Salem, North Carolina in Kyle Petty's name from goodies manufacturing with this win. Haven't Kalicki is inducted into the Gatorade circle of champions. He also takes home the one thousand dollars from dinner bell meet says the winner of the top dog award. He also led today in the true value hard charger competition. So pretty much a clean sweep for Allen Kalicki, Sterling Marlin who started twenty nine and finished in six we'll take home the Heinz ketchup award has the driver improved the most positions here the afternoon, and we now have the final rundown Taylor running older Alan Kalicki to winner. Bill Elliott, finish his second Harry. Gantt third Geoff Bodine fourth Kenny Schrader fifth Sterling Marlin six Ricky Rudd was seventh eighth was Darrell Waltrip ninth goes to Ernie urban Dale Earnhardt finished tenth Mark Martin finishes eleven so as we said Earnhardt picks up only four points on Mark Martin for the Winston Cup championship. Twelve position goes to Morgan shepherd carrying Amani finish thirteenth, Bobby hill and fourteenth Brett Bodine. Fifteenth. Sixteenth was Michael Waltrip seventeenth Dale Jarrett. Rick Wilson finishes eighteenth, Larry Pearson nineteenth and Kyle petty rounds out the top twenty twenty I will go to Richard petty twenty-second, Rick, mashed Dave, Marcus finishes. Twenty-third twenty-fourth will be Jack Pennington Chad little finish twenty fifth today. Twenty six going to Tommy KENDALL Jimmy bound finishes twenty seventh twenty eighth. Jimmy means. Davey Allison twenty ninth and thirtieth will be Rick Jeffries thirty first this Jimmy Hensley thirty-second rusty Wallace twenty choose me. Thirty third goes to Derrick cope thirty fourth will be stricklin. Mike Skinner finished thirty fifth. Dick, trickle thirty. Six thirty seventh afternoon as Ted musk grave in thirty eighth position will be Jeff Purvis thirty ninth. Spot is Tracy Leslie the first car out of the race today, finishing in fortieth will be driver. Charlie Baker next week. The Winston Cup series takes the day off. But MR does not will be joining you next Sunday afternoon at one o'clock eastern time from the martinsville speedway in Virginia. The Winston five hundred classical be on the air the final races of the year for the Busch Grand National and NASCAR Winston modified tour broadcast time. What a clock next Sunday on track. Activists in martinsville begin Thursday afternoon with practice and qualifying we'd love to see their if you can all join us. Don't forget the final two Winston Cup races of the season. You'll hear them. Both on 'em are radio November fourth checker five hundred from Phoenix. And November eighteenth the Atlanta Journal five hundred from the Atlanta international raceway on Tuesday evening at seven o'clock eastern time. We'll be on the air again with. Initiative. Nascar live will open up the phone lines toll free. Our number is one eight hundred two NASCAR as we take a look back at today's running of the AC Delco five hundred and of course, each and every weekday afternoon Allen best is along with the latest NASCAR news on NASCAR. Today. You might wanna check your local station for the time of broadcast in your area high. Thanks to Joe Moore and Alan best wick who are in the turns. Today, our pet coverage from dick Brooks, Jim Phillips and Winston Kelly. Martha Oliver and Augusta Johnson were on the scoring loop. Touchstone was our production assistant, and we certainly thank you so much for joining us here in Rockingham this afternoon. Our congratulations to Alan co Wicky who pulls off his second career Winston Cup win. And until we talk to you next for Barney hall. I'm ally gold soul on and good afternoon from Rockingham. MR in radio coverage of the NASCAR Winston Cup series has come to you from the North Carolina Motor Speedway. The executive producer of Marin radio is John McMullen, associate producer, Allan Beswick engineers, every Howard and Klay stalker. Visit relations Pat Hindley David Hiatt production assistance, Tina, mar Cheryl night and Stephanie Ellis. This is Rick Lewis. This broadcast was production of MR in radio division International Speedway corporation.
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Spittin' Chiclets Episode 108: Featuring Jack Eichel, Noah Hanifin, And Oliver Ekman-Larsson
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So the fellas and introduced them wanna let you know. We got a big show flay today. We got Jack Eichel and no Hannifin both of them. At the same time. We'd have an interview with a few weeks back and Arizona coyotes captain. All of ecm Lon also popped in for a little bit. So we got them coming on a little bit. In the meantime, let's check in with the boys. Let's go to the desert Paul business d- what is up very excited for two soda week launch here, and we're gonna, fuck and dig in the divisions voice. Yeah, we're going to get into the Pacific Division in a little bit. Let's say Hello to boy, Ryan Whitney bucket Sunday night. I'm fucking getting crushed, gambling. Giants who down ten nothin fuck you to fuck. And I had a friend early. They blew a fucking thirty. Amblin west down so much money, and I take the giants or down ten, nothing ally manning that he's washed up. I know there was a hockey podcast, but that guy is washed up. No is stupid. Fac- makes it that ugly face those. The goofy s body as a parent wrench on them though. Not even choking. I just thought of that. But yeah, no, what's up guys? It's up listeners. You really happy back. Erica, we go to daily episodes now. So he's bookie and Oculus producer Mike rallied bound out the Big Apple. Now, what's always boys boys Grenell Grenell had a notch last night. Why sleep over? I call them today sleepover Grenell road. On one bringing meter came into the podcast right now. That's what I'm here for boys. Now, Mary guys gotta talk squawk. How'd you meet her matter? Ota Friday night. Oh, so just met her out Friday night. Saturday night noise actually kind of weird. She asked me to go on like this, like go to go to a friend surprise party on Saturday night. So I said, yeah, and wash. Yeah, it was. It was her parents were there. So you just met all her friends the day after you met her? Oh, yeah. Holy shit. Really matter. Take it from. The top. How was the chemistry. Great. Ken, how is your performance? So here. Whiskey too. So my my roommate Ono I put on a show, my roommate. He's got this carpet. He put on spitting chiklis and how to listen. He's got this in the living room minutes, like one of those like shaggy carpets. It's like a sex carpet. It's got like two inches of like of carpet. It's really you're saying it's easier on the knees. No, yeah. No, my knees are killing me right now. They're all grown up. I got some rug burn right now CBD bomb on it. So you're basically having a better a better start to the season than all of recommend. Larson you move to NYC get a new fat contract. I mean, he got a fat contract and the sea, but I don't think you've got an Amish man, so you got you got the Tri factor. Well, thanks man. Whose both were you on yesterday? Grenell I saw on syndrome. I don't know, man, I didn't know anyone. I had no idea where I was. It was one of those things where we were passing the statue of liberty. I was buckled on this like yacht on Mike. What the fuck am I doing here? How did I end up here? I, I've paused your Instagram story like nine times to try to see the face on the checks, my colleague skirling up. Okay. All right. Little Vido end Alenia out there up money. So one of us is hot are what's going on in the NHL news right after I lost episode, you big news. I guess it's somewhat expected. The legend of Detroit and rigs Ediburgh two thousand eight months might trophy winner. Officially retired. I shouldn't say. I think he's saying he's not planning more. I don't. He's still has money on the table, so I don't even think he put his papers in, but he's done playing hockey, incredible career. I, I think it was a little under a point per game. Just the absolute legend rose. When the games were the highest wits. I mean, how you played against the minutes daily cut me and you could say a lot more than I can. Yeah, he's matched up against Sidney Crosby that entire series. I got a lot to say about about z. Henrik said Aberg. One of the best people I've ever met. I'm not talking hawk in the hockey world. Just an amazing guy who makes people feel comfortable right when you meet and there's there's never any awkwardness. There's never any any ego in him at all hottest shit to his beard. Look so good. He's got great hair like most Swedes, but guys, listen the number to ten comes into my head immediately. When you think is that Bergen you know you wondering how many is that goals? Is that playoff points, blah, blah? No, that's what he was drafted in the seventh round. He was the two hundred tenth selection which just shows you. I mean, that's one thousand nine hundred ninety nine which I believe was in Boston, Massachusetts. I was at the draft. How are ya is a big up and coming. So why don't you come on down to the draft? This'll be you and a couple of years. Zebra was not there when I was there only went to the first round. So two hundred and tenth pick, and he comes over to Troy. And you're a flood Geiger this guy. This is the guy who never played a game in the h. o. and that's saying something for most people, right. I mean, the the, the most special players in the in the world, they usually they don't plan the ancho, but in Detroit, it very rarely, rarely gray are so cool with sticking somebody for two years in the minors. They really don't care. But he came over right away and he, he was able to prove that he was ready to play in the NHL and then just learning from all those guys. And we recently interviewed Sean Avery, who was I think his second year zebra was a rookie and and talked about the team. They had that ten hall of famers, and I think learning from those guys Ediburgh learned what it took to become an amazing pro off the ice. He already had the skills and the game on the ice. He kept getting better and better and better an amazing offensive player. And I kind of think of them as as a two way centre, though, like in my mind, I don't just think often. Stud. And that's a guy who had ninety two point two one year in the NHL is career two thousand seven, two thousand eight when he won the consummate than dummied me ruined my whole life. But an amazing career that that unfortunately is ending with injury, and I was within this summer it was never brought up after, but he told me this summer like, got it hurts a lot, and we were on a golf trip, so I know people are like, what are you talking about? It hurts idea what's going on with ours agents, generative. He has such bad arthritis in there that he's basically risking if you were to take a bad hit. He's looking at a chance of his back being fucked up forever. And I mean, this is the guy who has it's not worth it at this point. All do what can't you do? And he's in a very, very special class of players who have won an Olympic gold medal, a Stanley Cup and a world championship gold medal. So nothing left for him to do last year. He was still wanted to -troit's best players. In a tough year for that team. But Ken hall came out and said, one of the greatest Red Wings to ever wear the uniform. I completely buy that his uniform number will be retired in the rafters number forty just to a great friend known at somebody that I met through Dan cleary in and has since then you know, become a good friend to me in that, you know, we text each other on the on the side during the year, and you know he'll send me snapshots or whatever of of me on NHL network. Just making fun of me. Guys, like only fuck looking at suit what you. It's style Jesus. Christ lace afro says all this stuff, but we team up. We team up every year on that golf trip. We're always partners. We beat hor cough theory. I think three years in a row now, thanks for coming on. How are you? I kind of carries Edberg in that match. Not gonna lie. I love them and I know I talked a bit too much. It'd be better than us hall of fame speech, actually Jewish hall of fame speeding who should match up there. And I'm just like PS PS done. You have a pretty big. Hold off the stage, the hall of fame. Burg's like you've pretty much covered it all. I mean, a very small class of guys who played over a thousand games in the NHL, of course that it with the same organization and another guy who just made Detroit Redwings scouts look like legends because you know, you mentioned he was a seventh round pick. I mean, you dad Sukhumi a late round pick and around that errors when all they had these guys popping under nowhere where people were like, holy, fuck, not only did they got the hall of famers, but they're turning seventh rounders in a future hall of famers. Yeah, so nice little. That was a nice little sendoff by you wit and it's unfortunate. We won't get to see him that man rocket play again. Oh quickly quickly. Well, worth thing. I forgot off Nyquist and Kron while were telling me. The best thing that's Ediburgh did was if they had a game on the road and then they knew they were able to kind of go out as a team after very rarely nowadays we've said on this, do you play on the road not fly out after? So the nights you are staying in the city guys are like, come on. We got to have a good game because we, we get to go out tonight flights in the morning. What else are you going to do after the game? Zenit Burke was notorious notorious for having Nick Ron wall quoted. He said this minimum of three points in a game when we knew we were going out after in the city, and he's telling me to stores while back while back on laughing this year, they're playing in Vegas and I knew they were staying over and I'm like, I wanna see what's Edberg does five points. No. This guy so good. And then he really bears style when they're staying overnight. Hey, I remember it was early in the season because they came to play Arizona. They went to Vegas after and points. It was four pretty sure it was five points in Vegas which we smoke them. I think they smoked Vegas that night, but the hands of mother. I didn't actually I didn't have his numbers in front of me. I just want to shout them out nine hundred sixty points. It was three hundred thirty seven goals. Six hundred twenty three assists in thousand eighty two games for point eight, nine points per goal points per game average. That's pretty nasty. One hundred and twenty points in one hundred and thirty seven playoff games pretty outstanding. Two in the area did when the cons might thirteen goals. Fourteen assists for twenty seven points in twenty two games. And even the next year when Detroit lost the Cup to Pittsburgh, he had eleven goals. Thirteen assists twenty four points in twenty three games in if you want to get a good shot of the clients might trophy. Check out my Instagram page. I slapped up a couple of picks from when I snuck in the locker room after they after they won the. Cup that night and not only I mean a thousand eighty two games, but one hundred and thirty seven playoff games. And I think we can all agree. Those count is basically double on your career. And I mean, that's that's an amazing feat, amazing career. And I think we gave them a nice little sendoff together voice. Absolutely. Well, well deserved, man. Watch what else is going on around the league are a couple signings or at least one, Josh, MARCY. He was RFA and Winnipeg. He just re upped the me find those numbers right here. Defenseman for solid player play. Yeah, I think it was a little over three. I'm gonna pull them up while talking, hey, yeah, he's, he's, he's, he's in a row. Rascal little play where he likes to mix it up, but wouldn't you say, what would you say? I said, he's, he's in Iraq play. He likes to mix it up. Yeah, yeah. It's like that's pretty impressive. Rascal never heard that guy who like. Make that could be trouble trouble mitt. Yeah. Basically, it means he's impish like a troublemaker likes to stir shit up. I don't know if I've described him like that, but I would say he's hard to play against. It may not be because he's overly physical and in your face and you know, kind of like a rat type player, but he skates well, he's a smart player. I would use the word cerebral is that word? Bo-kaap oil is this is this is getting a little too intelligent for me. I just woke up from a nap too. So let's just down of it. Well, listen, this is the guy who two years ago played all eighty two games last year played eighty one. So very reliable in terms of being on the ice, right? The best ability is reliability. Is that what they say? You know, biz if you're trying to build a team, you want a guy who's going to be in the lineup every night. So Morsi stay healthy. Great. I pass keeps the game pretty simple. I mean, this is the thirteenth overall pick. So if you're looking at. Top fifteen pick. You might sometimes think he's gonna be really good offensively. I think this is just a really good overall player. Twenty points two years ago, twenty six last year. So he jumped up there this year. I wouldn't be surprised at all to see him around thirty thirty five and a big in a big important piece for Winnipeg one of the top teams heading into this season, so good for them to get them signed because I was curious when that would win that would go down. Boys are just complement the giants for Christ's sake. I, you know, obviously there's a rivalry between Winnipeg in Arizona, but just a quick shower to Winnipeg in that organization as a whole, drafting a developing players properly managing their assets. They are going to be a very strong force this year. That's central division is gong show. And then I mentioned it. I think glad loss podcast is it's going to be a cock fight and it's tough for them to make an oath, especially with the way they align the playoffs set up and. I mean, it's yeah, it's pretty wild. Those numbers biz mar. He signed a two year, six point, three million dollar deal. So three point, one, five bridge. It's a bridge if I ever saw on. Absolutely. Absolute- bridge jail. He it's like ego kid. Let's keep doing what you're doing, improve a little and then you had a nice Little Haiti and a couple of years. So happy for the team. I'm sure they get them at that price. And you know the kid has an opportunity to make some big golf. He has a couple of nights. Boys, I think we're going to get into a right now, but because we're kicking off the two episode week and we're heading into season training camps have begun. We're going to go over the divisions and then we're going to rank teams, offense, defense, goaltending. And even at the end, we're going to put our predictions in for who we think's gonna make playoffs. At the top of the division, of course, maybe fills into the wild card role. So but boys before we throw it over to our assessment of the Pacific Division, which is became a monster with the Carlson trade. We're going to have another Swede on and close friend of mine recently named captain of the Arizona coyotes. The biggest wagon undercover secret of the Pacific and he's gonna come on and just talk about his. His success in the NHL has huge ticket. And of course becoming the fourth captain and Arizona coyotes history and having a live with you. Correct. So we're gonna headed it off to Oliver Larson right now. This was. Brought to you by Dollar Shave Club, no matter what you're doing. The bathroom to get ready Dollar Shave Club has everything. You need to look feel in smell your best. 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So I felt like I had to or out do now, but this is what I need to know like, why did you ever let this guy Bisson it live with you? Is that true? And were you always there? Do you actually leave them alone in your house too? Because God knows what was going on there. Wow. Well, I needed somebody to clean my place and said the, he couldn't really afford a place. So I was nice enough to to having stay in my place to clean shots right there all Christ. Let's just end this now. All of our I know last year you know there is there was rumors that you were going to get the c. and you know maybe not necessarily a bad thing. They kind of let it breathe a little bit. Of course, she known how to forever, but got to be a big relief to finally get it while I guess this summer and then not only on top of that, get that fat contract. Yeah, I felt like talk rid did the right thing there to to waiting and go to, to know his players little but more for c. center. So I think it was good that that I kinda got a year to to really get back on my feet after my my mom passed and just having fun with hockey again. So so it's nice to finally beat a cap then and super excited. And I think we can do some damage this year all over that was I'm sure a tough season for you kept under wraps for a bit. The fact that she was sick and and played through it and still played on believably towards the end of the season before last you you, you went back to Sweden to to deal with that. Just, you know, talk about the impact that's had on you in your family and how you've done to try to get over it. Yeah. Well, obviously, family always goes first, right? So it's kinda hard, but I couldn't really do much. She wanted me to stay over here and and I wanted to do that for her. So that was pretty easy for me to to make that decision to to stay over here and play and dude for. So what's going on nice to to to just be around the guys because that helped me a lot to not think about it every every single second. So by, like I said, it was was a tough year for me and my family, and it was like I said, just being around two guys and and the sport that I love helped me a lot. And then you had that often are sorry that off season to decompress and and you came back last year, new coach, new system. I mean, overall the team with a terrible scheduled early on to how to tough start, but you still end up coming back to rattle off fourteen goals in a full eighty two game season. You played every game. I was looking at your hockey Oliver, every full season you played in the NHL you've had double digits in goals. I mean, has that been something that you have you always been a score. No, but actually, after you left the team have been beneath to score. I, I think I have the puck more. Yeah, you third, fourth or second, third, tearing back then you'd utilize get stuck with guys like me on the ice. So ever since then act the back years with twenty. As soon as I left. Yeah, no. But I, I mean, I think I got to play more and more and felt more comfortable out on dis and being keep you handle. We built some chemistry onto Powell playing. I think that that's probably why I scored a lot of goals that that's Eason big time friend of the podcast, Keith Yandell. So I, I have a question you come over from Sweden and your rookie year you play a little bit in the minors most of the year in the NHL forty eight games that year. Did you start the minors. No actually made a team or a write off Cam. So I started playing went over to Europe with Paul. And then we, we actually had our first two games in Prague, and that's. Yeah, exactly. So that was a nice trip and got to know the guys. I didn't say much back there and, but it was nice and it was gonna nice to to be close to home through. So my family could come and watch the first two games. That's that's pretty special, so busy. Did you know this? This kid was like this good right away, Ralph and get 'em out like being bad off the ice or what was the deal right away? Skated like a dove. And I remember being in line with Chen, dove like a dove. It doesn't even try out. There does muzzles around. It's a joke, not fair, but chain dome we were standing actually children line and he looked at me. He goes, this guy's going to be special, and I was, I was like, shut up, shut up, donors, biscuit. There's. There's. But you're right, all but I know he was always going to be a special player. Alright. Do you member that series when we went over to Boston? A play are sorry, run over to check the play, the Bruins. Absolutely. Yeah. That was the Bruins went on to win the Stanley Cup that year because actually Brian McGrath was on the Bruins for that trip at the he ended up getting cut, but all of I had a question fly, I know nNcholas to miss the name that comes up when we talk about retired Swedish defenseman, but is a guy was wondering if you looked up to when you were a kid Fredrik. Olsen. Did you watch him play when you were young? Was he too old for you? I'm probably my get in trouble if I said that he was too old, but I didn't. I didn't watch him play, but I, I heard a lot of good things about him and he was actually used from close to my home phone. So I heard a lot of good things about it. Yeah, you guys have obviously Swedes, but you similar styles of play. I watched them play the same franchise Winnipeg which became Phoenix years ago and you guys very similar. I believe he broke his power play goal record for the franchise. Correct? Yeah, that's. That's right. Suck on that one. One of the question, there's there's no real. I mean, the might be an exception to, but there are no real, sweetest bums in the NHL all the Swedes come over. They have a great worth that they really play hide hockey. They played field hockey. What would you attribute that to for the Swedish hockey players? Why did they have such a good worth. I think we have a great program right from the start. When we started playing back home, everybody is like the dis is bigger and and we learn how to skate fast and and handle the puck pretty good. I'm not gonna say that every Swedish player is good at that, but for the most part and that's the way we play back home. Yeah, I'm on the euro's. You certainly do have a good reputation in the NHL. Unlike some other ethnicities, we won't mention risky. You just mentioned him. That's joke. What about Peter Forsberg? I know he was a fuller, but that was that a guy just every young hockey player in Sweden looked up to it because he's basically a goddamn for the postage stamp. Yeah, for sure. I mean, I had, I always had Nick, I always looked up to him and then Peter fors- by because he scored a lot of goals and and and and won the Cup Cup or one time there too. So I mean, that's probably the two biggest names back home. So that was there. There were my idol growing up. I always wonder with guys from Europe, not not just reading but say, you know, seven, eight, ten years. Whenever you're done playing, do you think you'll live over here? Would you think you'll whenever the career ends in North America you'll you'll move back and live in Sweden, the rest of your life. I think I might. Spend the summers back home in Sweden because they're, it's, it's beautiful there in the summer. And then when it gets starts to get cold there over in Sweden, I might keep my house here in in Phoenix and Risona. So yeah. So I mean, I've been here for eight years now and and this really feels like home, and that's why I decided to stay here over your your brothers over with the organization over here, which is, which is awesome because you have some family close to you. Chances are he'll start the season in Tucson, just talk about that a little bit and having them over here in a few signs us down the Rosie, go watch you play. Yeah, no, it's awesome to to having close. I get to see him a couple of games in down in Tucson every year now and and it's a lot of fun. We haven't really been super close, but I think the last two, three years we started to to hang out in the summers and do a lot of fun stuff. So it's it's awesome for him and and it's really good for me to have him close to. So do you have you have anything else for me about like living with biz? Like, tell me something about this guy that I can use for the rest of the time, something scummy about of something cheap. Just give me give me anything. No, I was actually surprised because he, he, he cleaned he, he cooked like he was unbelievable. He if all over I would you're the first guy to back me up on this podcast and I appreciate that actually. And then we went for a fun night after the season last year and and I picked up the tab. We won't talk about where it was. We'll keep it under wraps all Oliver's. All your pretty secretive guy, which is good. You keep all your your personal life under wraps just like you biz biz. Well, well, I've been around you and I, I've seen that you get in a lot of trouble. So I'm trying trying to opposite. So you've void me at all costs all all in the in the market to purchase a new home in paradise valley where maybe you guys, I actually, I actually did all you go on it. Yeah, it's a dumb deal. So I'm moving to twenty eight what an off-season new. You get the c. you get the new big fat contract. I don't know. You may like seventy eighty million dollars, and then you buy a new house in PV man, your your life is going pretty good, Oliver. Yeah, it's I'm feeling pretty good right now, and it's a lot of fun. Like I said it straight living every and every so I and I love it here. I talked to me about Zetter Burg retire. And do you know on well and have you sent him a text yet? No, I haven't. I got got the chance to play with him a couple of times. Great guy, get hockey player, so no sad to see. It's sad to see the. He had to to retire that way. All right. Well, I'm curious, I years a captain. Does anything change for you? I mean, there's going to be times you kinda at some point throughout the season. Even if the captain's lead by example, you got to address the team talk. Have you thought about how things will change for you and how you'll approach a being in the locker room a little bit different? Or are you going to try to pretty much keep the same low profile and let you play? Do the talking. No, I think it'll old probably stay the same. Try to lead lead on on Dyson that I never been been super, super loud into room, but but I don't have that problem if I have to speak up and and do that. I'll will. So we'll see. I haven't really thought about that yet. It's pretty pretty new to move to new to me still. So we'll see we'll all over. We want to thank you for popping by. And of course hopefully the coyotes can start the season the way they finished its second half of the season. One of the best teams in the league and you were on fucking fire last year. I think you've finished with what fourteen tux. Yes, you're right. Holy shit by damn anyone year. Hope. Let's hope for. Yeah, thank you very much. You don't have. You're on your own. I just put my stick on the ice wall. You still did it though. Thank you. Thank you, buddy. You publicize Oliver. Thank you so much for hopping on and we'll see you tomorrow. Yeah, thanks guys. Thank you very much. All recommen- Larson the smooth skating Swede fun to watch biz. I'm sure it's a lot of fun for you to kind of announce his games. Lou interested. He. He made my talk about Berg, look, even crazier. He was like a good player. Good guy. Okay. Well, thanks all of our really appreciate it. So I'm not impressed. He's like whatever you didn't sign a ticket like I did. All right. So Pacific Division boys, where are we starting Anaheim? Top of Anaheim? Alphabetical order. Okay. So all you fans, we're not saying Anaheim is going to be number one division were just going by the as a what's before is our after n. for hours ONA. Yeah, we're gonna have Arizona next summer to fall. Calgary at our was share, say Vancouver. Thanks, cool nights. Okay. All right. Well, let's talk about the Anaheim ducks a little bit boys, right? This is a team that, and, oh, I also wanted to tell all of those centers as we talk about these teams and we give her predictions, like, let's be honest. So it's before the year, we don't know just doing our best, can't hyper type teams they are. So don't fuck command us with data already talking about like this guy Bleda like we might mess up some things. We might be wrong in my team that I picked to be worse than the league Vegas might go to the Cup miles just shut your yet onto Anaheim teams getting a little older boys get the live. Old or now I love the club. I love their back end and that's kind of where I'm going to start camp Fowler and hampers Lynn home, dominant players, especially at times. I mean, I think that last year, Fowler being injured for a little bit of the really hurt this team, but Brennan menteur, Josh Manson kind of round out their top for I really liked this group, it's where they, they're aging little bit up front where I kinda worry and a lot of guys are making a lot of money. You'll see what? What would you know what they're expected to produce? Will they will they not? I don't know. But that's going to be the question for this team because in net, Josh Gibson is very solid or is it John Gibson, holy, fuck John. Gibson John offer a, it's a Jay, and it's A Gibson. So j Gibson solid, very solid. I love the, but upfront is the kind of the question Mark for me. It really isn't besides Ricard for Cal and Ryan gets up, you know, you're gonna need a bounceback back from Perry and Kessler really. Would be going, and if they are, this team could be really hard to deal with because last year I was talking about them, we're in the Cup now bogging them. RA before a handed over to you all, say this. I agree, totally with the age thing. Of course, if gets Lavin. Perry. I mean, Perry's kind of lost a step a little bit. I still still like him net front presence. I would say their top three lines are extremely respectable. I like how they locked up Henryk too. I, I guess Ryan Kesslers and other guy, like depending on he comes back, he had that hip problem a couple years ago. He had surgery on it last season. His offense and output was not at at par with this past seasons. So Henry could be a good hinge guy. I think a lot of this offense is gonna depend on how Kesser either steps it up or or has a season like last another concern on my is depth on the fourth up front for the for the Anaheim ducks. I mean, you mentioned it, it's it's, we're going into training camp here. There's a couple of guys. I don't really know much about coming out of the American League. They got Troy Terry penciled in on the fourth line right wing. So all ain't playing fourth line, no chance. What what do you think he's going to be playing? Where are they could be top two lines? I think he's an absolute stud. These huge bright spot and kind of their their biggest up and comer in terms of like rookies or you know, younger guys, but he's American. So obviously I'm kind of blowing them alot, but will. Right. And, and once again, you know, Corey Perry not to take anything from what he's done in the NHL. He's slowing down a bit. So maybe they'll, they'll kind of throw Troy -tarian they're a little bit. I mean on that right side, they're pretty strong Silverberg on the second mind penciled in cost Cossack I believe how you pronounce it. And then as far as the back end, I guess it's still the same concern is the depth on that the third pair. I mean, I don't know who they got penciled and right now they got Luc Shannon, Lee Hsien who's a good penalty, kill guy. I mean, but just overall, like I mean, as far as depths concern based on the rest of the division, that would be my concern. And then that I think they got, they got a good goalie there. And then of course, a good backup, which I believe is Ryan Miller. Are still. Really? Yeah. You do feel like like what said, the get a little aged upfront and you feel like there's window for Perry and gets left his closing, they won the Cup shit. That was eleven years ago. Man. I was that was a while ago. You know, Ricky goes really been a surprise for them. I mean, thirty four goals last year, thirty five assists in the best part about him for the ducks. I would say it was his contract. He's under the same deal for four more years at only three point seventy. Nine million. Yes, that's pretty cheap money for a guy putting almost seventy points up for the d. they also brought in what's his face from Tampa, Andre Schuster. He's a little bit of a thumper on on the back and there, but they they didn't really bring. They lost be ex army. I don't. I don't know if that's a huge loss, but they didn't really seem to bring it any big free agents or big names. They got into the playoffs for what they have last year. I think it's a solid team. But yeah, I think depth, like you guys said, I think might be an issue for him unless somebody kind of comes through this year, we're not expect, and they do appear to be all set and gold and the John Gibson DC. Better than decent yell, nine, two, six s p with a two, four, three, four shutouts you know, thirty wins. He had a good. Yeah. So the thing is though that's such a tough division, I think the league, so competitive man, they can have a good year and since still not be a top three automatic playoff business in this, we're gonna get to the playoffs in a little bit so Anaheim. Yeah, they didn't really do much to improve. They really didn't do much to, you know, Joe fade off a bit, so it's gonna be interesting. I I'd imagine they'll probably just kinda coast belong like how they've been doing boys. I don't know about you, but I haven't as a bubble team, but I got a missing the playoffs this year. I just think the Pacific's too strong. I think that it is. I don't know it just it's gonna be tough to compete with that lineup to to make it to the dance. I think they get in the playoffs. I don't. I I will say two things because I was a member of the Anaheim, ducks organization. One, we kind of make Corey Perry, you know, it sounds like we're kind of dogging him a little bit, so just wanted out join throw out what that guy's been. I mean, hate him. If you're not a ducks fan and how. He plays love him. If your ducks fan, incredible career, unreal player. But God, I think is turning thirty four pretty soon thirty three or eight around then. So it's old now and just by losing a half a step, I think you see, that's why I took a step back, but who knows? Right? Maybe this year, maybe this summer, the way trained something Cheney come back in and rips it up. So don't want us to think that we're under appreciating the type of player Corey entire career. Second thing, Bob Murray, the GM either hates my guts more than anyone or is the rudest person. Dude. I used to see this guy in the mornings. He wouldn't even think about saying, Hello, he'd walk right by you being the elevator with him. He weren't even say one word on like Jesus Christ. I think what the issue was though now that I'm really talking about this, he traded Kunitz for me twice. So pissed on. You made him look bad. I mean, if I bought me or. Kunitz, but kidneys, maybe that's why hated me either way. Not a very friendly person and it sucks being on the media side. You know, I was just calling the period thing for what it is. He's an awesome guy. I, I like him a lot. It just what for what he's making over the course of the last two seasons. He's only missed nine games and he had nineteen goals two years ago and last Jared, seventeen. So. That's a big drop off from up forty three thirty three thirty four fifty one year. Did he win the rocket Rashard. Yeah, one of the rocket Rashard MVP that year he got geez, you two major league award, so not looking good for them. Moving forward. Boys stick. We said, get a little old. We're going to move onto the quiet wagon the Arizona coyotes. RA you got any overt leg and business talking about the quiet wagging. I already you know biz I have a thing I come up with a company has on with Boston chief on our old plot. Gas call it like the trophy triumvirate. Like if you have Norris Calva goalie. Gnaws. Calvin defenseman Vezina Calva goalie in like a Selke Kalemba forward. Then that's going to kind of feel a team, the basis you can kind of build from that. You know, right now, I think Arizona has two thirds out with, you know, with all the Akron Lassen he's didn't really Kenny votes for the NAR slash really not his fault. It's just the way the voting went, but I looked at anti anti Ranta starting goalie. He didn't get one vote for the Vezina last year mock Andre floor came in, I believe, fifth, let me give you this stats mock Marc Andre Fleury at forty. Six game started same as Rhonda. Two point two, four goals against exactly the same mock Andre Fleury say percentages at nine, two, seven rathers was a nine three. Oh, so you get, you know, basically I think Vesna Calva goal Yalta I didn't see ton of him last year. I know he was hurt early in the year, but I mean, those are some outstanding numbers. I when I dug deep, I couldn't believe he didn't get not one point in the Vesna vote. Usually guy may give you fucking aether templates vote. He didn't get anything, so you've got him got lasting you basically there's some good pieces in place. I just don't think there's enough right now that they're really going to compete for a top three spot in the division. You know they, they're scorn. They were thirtieth in scoring last year. This special teams of middle of the pack, hopefully grab their gal. Shenyang good, solid pieces. I don't know that they either wanna move the needle. They should fill the net a little help with scorn. I see improvements biz I just don't see them get into a playoff level yet while we're in the course of a five-year rebuild. This is your four and five years. Don't need to five. Time out time out. I know you're years, what are we talking about here? Well, listen what we got to a point where you are getting older. We made those three years where we made playoffs in a row in the last year that we made our run, and we were always with that with. We don't tip wanted to be competitive and try to make playoffs to be like, hey, we need to kinda rebuild here. So it started then last year was just as we hit the top of the mountain. Now we're, we're making down so to speak. We picked up Rhonda and you know, he dealt with some injuries early on, but once he got going and settled in second half the season, he was one of the best goals in the league. Great. Move by Chaika I think to get Darcy Kemper Yeta. Awesome. Start the season with LA last year when quick was struggling and we locked him in for two more years. So as far as our goal tender's are concerned, we look great. And then we moved to the back end on Deekor which I think is the teams other big strength. Of course, you mentioned Larson Jason demerge while Yvette. He has a little bit of offensive presence, smart smart little defenseman, Jacob chicken. This guy's a physical specimen hot to always a fucking man rocket. He's eight all he's one of the best looking guy any kid, but he's had some bad luck. What do you get hurt last year, but back to back years, he's torn as ACL what same one that's I believe there are different. I think our boy fabriga biz I know and and chick chick came back. He started to new rhythm last year and he, I think he tore his his other one about five, six games left in the season. Both times he's tore them. He's came back like a month and a half before he supposed to guys like wolverine. And he, he repairs like crazy. He was posted as you're supposed to recovery on his Instagram all summer. And normally I'm not down with with the whole like post workouts the shit he was doing. An order to get back sooner than later was was fucking insane. He spent the whole summer away from his friends of family went to Philadelphia, and it's great to see that he'll be back sooner than expected. I, he's, he hasn't been cleared for contact yet, but imagine that you know early on the season, he makes his debut of. Of course, nNcholas Charleston, who they re up for two more years. So he has three total years left with with coach. He's a great, a great guy defensively on the back end, you know, probably one of the best shutdown defense in the league, they had to overpay a little bit for the back two years by I like how they only had to get him for two in order to do that. And then Alex color goski. I mean, you played with them wet all meeing goose. We live together for a little bit. Actually. He was like, I wouldn't say him in the tank. Were these upcoming studs and that was one of the reasons I think pit young, oh, we could trade whitney'll. You got these two guys coming Goosen. I used to take Ambien and then play NHL. Oh, nine against each other. On the coach with games like that. We're in the second period that we just like the ref was waiting to drop the POC. We would say, hell. We're playing like money for each game, but we could never remember how many games we played. Goose's the best hell. Nice. Nice. Little scouting report there. Mr., bam, bam. Of course to round off their sixth defense in the Kevin cannot and they brought him back last year. Coyotes defense or one of the best in the league at providing offense. Gola gos- Kia, twelve goals cannot had ten overall success year ten Kevin cannot attend tux. Last year. He signed a two year extension. So the back ends looking good the forward Ford's boys. There's a lot of question in our rail. Probably toss it over to you here you can go through the forwards if you'd like. Yeah, taking a look at last year's squad. I mean, Clayton Keller what a revelation he was in the running for rookie of the year. He ended up twenty three goals. Forty two assists sixty five points in eighty two games, but man, that's a kid. You build a future around. I, I love his. He looks like he's about twelve years old out there, but the kid gets at times Eric snapping, Patrick Kane, junior, yeah, yeah, absolutely crazy, but I don't think it will in five years. No, probably not Derek step and he's obviously great. Both ends of the ice. They brought him in from New Jersey. I'm sorry, New York copy as far as veteran leadership struggle a little early on, but he's the type of guy. You know when you build them with, they're trying to build out the biz he's type guy. You do need last year max Domi thing, obviously trade him to Montreal. They didn't get a great ton of goals. Item osteo, only nine goals. I would think that guilt genyk would more than make up for that on. Then you know, let's I think on be a big time. These have a pretty big year. I think it sim it getting out a month. Israel, it's getting away from that gong show off the ice and on the ice. And I think he'll be pretty solid. I wouldn't be surprised to see him playing with Clayton Keller wondering how the work their lines, but he could have a big, bounce back your boys, Clayton Keller Derek step on Richard panik finish year together, the tons of chemistry together. Yeah, they're matched up right now on Derek step on Mr.. Reliability. Here he's had five seasons in a row where he's at the fifty point plateau, I'd say as far as league standards are concerned, he's a high end second mind center. But last year he was big for this team and detrimental to a lot of the growth of these young players. As you look through the lineup per Leany, Fisher Strom divorced act like a lot of young guys loss and Krause's another other one Vinnie stroz who came over in the trades from Chicago. A lot of guys with question marks as far as can they bring it to the next level? And you know, it's, it's, it should be interesting because we have a lot of those types of players. So lot of it's going to depend on on who's going to, you know, make that make that jump in and fill out the top six role. Because right now it's not Christian Fisher and preliminary penciled in well, yeah, they had solid years last year, but the consistency in order to stay in that top six boys, you gotta think at least fifty points season. Yeah, put up a shut up. I got one question though. Fly biz can we agree? We re that Rick talk is the meanest lookin motherfucker in the NHL all. Yeah, he's, he used a tough customer when he played and he did a great job, especially after the tough start they had in just staying with it. And as I mentioned before, best, one of the best teams in the second half and season last year, let's not sleep on the fourth line you the Brad Richardson and Nick cousins, who Nick cousins is great, Swiss army knife, you can jump in a jump up into those top lines. Great with the puck provide some offense. So boys, I consider them hopefully a bubble team as as they make their rise, I think I could see that. I don't think it getting in the playoffs, but I think they're going to be hard to play against and they're going to cause a lot of issues for teams. So looked for a good season from the especially a bounce back after last year. Move onto the Calgary Flames than the RA. What do you think? Yeah, man. Every team they on. Shape. They have a lot of talent they brought in James deals, you know, for some scorn. He's obviously very good at that. Mike Schmitz top-flight goalie. I expect magic Chuck to get another year progress there. They weren't able to get the playoffs last year. I don't. I think they get back joining good dro-. He's he's a magician on the ice. I love watching that kid play the basically five will bring in the odds of five, the one, the win, the division, maybe might worth a small bet. I, I don't know that they're going to pick up the division, but I dunno, Calgary, they didn't have a good year last year. There was nothing you could put a one finger on, but they had a huge trade. They got rid of Dougie Hamilton that was yet another locker room that said, you know, he might not have been the best guy in that locker me the, they got rid of him brought in Noah Hannifin and drawing a blank who who came over in the trade with Hannifin the forward. Oh, allies lies involvement home, right. So you'll, you got a couple of new faces in the room that could that could be a big deal. I don't know if Dougie handled himself was dragging the team down, but I've been sound again like he was the most popular. A guy, but yeah, so Calgary's, you know, one of those teams men like, say, you look at them on paper, they got a good solid squad. They should compete this year. I think they will. I think they're going to be in the runoff. One of those top three spots in the division for Shuba I do too. I think they're kind of a a sneaky bed in terms of they could win the division. If if Mike Smith as well and they're deep plays like they can great top four, an in watching defense TJ brody's, very underrated player of he makes the game look very easy, how he skates. So well, he pushes the pace of the play. Alati carries the puck up isolate. So he's a very good player. Jeered Donald a great cap. Then I think that everyone in that room loves loves him and and guys love having him on the ice. He's a tough bastard. He's hard to play against the also some great offense. Travis and neck is a lot of potential there. I think that you know, you could see him jump in and jump out and become just a really dominant player or maybe kinda stay raise right now. You're wondering where. It'll go, but no Hannifin comes in there with a lot of proven, signing a big contract, and you know, funny that he's on on this episode even though we interviewed him a couple of weeks ago, but I like this team a lot. And when you get up front, Johnny Haughey our boy, Johnny ham and cheese is Keith Yandell calls him. He's one of the best in the world. So it's fun to watch that guy play. It's fun to watch him do his thing and, and Michael back land makes up a great part of that team. He's underrated Centerman. So they have a lot of lot of weapons up front because I'm good d and if Mike Smith plays well, it really they really could surprise and an end up doing a lot of damage in the Pacific and wild, like your guy's opinion is just how young they are, especially with the way the NHL set up all the travel and how much how much the pace is picked up. Just having those fresh legs all season and that young blood in the locker room on the. Yeah. And of course, the real deal to line up all those parties for all these young guys. So would you guess the oldest guy in flames is why would say jeered Donal but they got the perfect a perfect mix of vets in guys. Can you know who can lead these these young guys? I mean, if you look at their top six though, I mean could Chuck's fairly young noun hands, young, droves, young. I mean, Sam Ben, it's not that old Lynn home. They got, they got some some good young team self. I liked them. And you guys mentioned smitty stands on his head like he did for us. You're remade are run. I have no doubt that this team is is going to be a bubble team, but I think that they're gonna make it. Agreed agreed off the wait and wait and see what happens. Ooh, this is going to be a tough one. Attention. This is on boys. You know why? Because I lived there. I've played there, although I got shit on. I went to the fourteen different all those at the west Edmonton mall. I went to, I went to cactus club, waitresses, beautiful. Didn't talk to one of them. I saw Mike Comrie asked for the billionaires cut, even though it was called the millionaires cut steak, but he's still Reggie called the billions got always made me laugh. I I had to plug by goddamn Carin at night, so it did. So it started the morning because it's so fucking cold, Edmonton. I never got to play in the new rink though. I got to walk through the hall way from the dressing room to the ice or Dustin Penner looked at me my first game, it said, wait to hear the verbal abuse. I take on this walkout and then the doors went open and all of a sudden, Patty fat. Fuck you as lays back. Oh, my is. You. You beat shit argue. It was like our best player too. Oh. Beautiful always say, this city loves hockey. They deserve a winner. They got a winner for one year after the doldrums the twelve years of hell or whatever it was ten years. And then they made that run to game Seki seven of the second round. And then last year happen. So guys, let me tell you something before we go into their Ross. Before we talk, if this is bad. Again, this year, I don't even know what's going to happen because then you start talking about our MC, David's making this much money. What else can we do? Who are the guys here that are the issues we had the Goodyear. We thought we were ready to go. We had one step back here, but all that's okay. That was a fluke. That year was a fluke. We're going to be good. Well, if they're bad this year, heads up heads will roll who knows what will happen, but that team cannot come out and be shit again in their unreal, new rink with their fans who love hockey and hate players when they're bad and love them when they're good, they can't do it again. They can't deal with it. So mcdavid is going to be. David guys, he's Crosby mcdavid right? Best player in the world. Don't worry about him. It's what else do they have? It's what do they gift from goaltending it's what do they get on the back end because if they stink again, it's gonna be frigging hilarious. I know hilarious the right word. I'm not laughing at like them being bad, just the fact that like, oh my God, the Oilers are legit bad. Again, what the fuck and with one major concern for me is the drop off. I mean between dry style and mcdavid. They had one hundred seventy eight points last year. I mean, the next guy was Ryan Newman Hopkins at forty eight, and then it got worse from there, but I think that they're going to be okay. Like the addition of that tyrod he's a solid player. He was in the Saint Louis system for a bit was not. Yeah, he was. We were there with good, solid player either really good running in the minors. Obviously, you know, in order to be successful at the NHL level, you have to at least be able to dominate the age level. If you go there. I expect a huge bounce year from lunch in. I like the addition of Kyle broads Iak as well. Good, good. PK guy. Good for defensive zone faceoffs before he knows what he's getting into. Right and always can be. The food could be great. Most nights, some nights, it's bad. You know, he knows that, but then you know, and the, excuse me the back end solid. They got some solid players. Are they overpaying a couple of the guys there? Sure. Secure is on a pretty sick meal. They need to carry to be healthy. I said this last podcast. Oh yeah, for sure. I said this last podcast I think they need. I think they need a little morale boost. You know, because the the dark days happened a lot and Emerton I think that Scotty Upshaw who's there on a PTO. I think if he could make that team and he'd be good for that locker room put on the tunes, making the mood a little bit lighter to put them over the hump and get them where they want to be as an organization. So tell you though. I when I was in, we could have put on the fucking would've still finished in third place for sometimes it's just a matter, a guy and a name that needs to play well. He needs to be good. Is Jesse Harvey? Fourth, overall, pick in two thousand sixteen. You can't take a guy fourth overall and end up seeing him not have success to a high level top to lion guy. I mean, he's still young. This kid is is a lot of skill, a big body. I don't know how well he moves. There's games. He's looked great. There's games. He's looked a little slow footed. So maybe maybe this summer being how young he is all of a sudden he took a big step skating who knows, but they need that guy to come in and have a presence and not be in and out of the lineup and not occasionally getting power play time. And I mean, spent some time in the minors which isn't the worst thing, but you pick a guy that high when you have these chances to get these great players, you gotta be able to to hit home runs, and they're going to need him to have a good season if they want this team to kind of go where they think they can be. You know any roster at Ghana mcdavid on it is going to be topped heavy, of course. But this roster is really not very well put together it just, you know, it got mcdavid dry settles probably getting a little too much money. It just not really filled out in the bottom. But I think the biggest problem, you know, unlike the other former ranger goalie who was traded out west, we talked about anti Rhonda. I Cam Talbot needs to be much much better this year. He was also a range of that got traded yet a nine, eight save percentage at three. Oh, two goals against last year. That's just not good enough to be in the NHL. If you want to be a playoff team, he's got to be a lot better. He was better when he started there. I really fell off last year and I honestly, I think he was probably the biggest reason that they didn't have success lies Jerry. I think he was one of the worst players. And when you go is not good man, it has a ripple effect and other guys lose their confidence. And I think that was probably the RA is back befall REI dream, especially early on. And I think that that that was kind of the catalyst at the start of the year after that. It seemed like nothing could go right of course, Lew at a tough time scoring and the second half, but a lot of good geyser and I expected to have a bounce back year because you know, when all of those things are going wrong, it makes for a tough season. So we're going to move on. Yeah, we're going to move onto the fun teams. Boys, malay- kings, and they got a couple of dishes and they still got a very, very good core group of players. So why don't we let you kick it off Mr. Whitney? Well, I said when when Cobo took ended up signing with them that I, I don't know how much success he's going to have. It's way different now, man, this guy left what he the four years ago. Can we look that up quicker Nellie maybe, but he while you're looking up, I'll say. The game is not the same as when he was over here. And this is an incredible player who's done a lot. You see internationally, what he can do. His shod will always be a weapon. He's gonna sure he'll be on one of the, you know, one of the flanks on the power play will get his his one time or goals because he has a complete rocket. But in terms of creating off the rush and things like that, I don't know if he's fast and dynamic as he was naturally just because it's been been a long time since he played over here. And I think people are pencilled in for thirty goals, but I wouldn't be surprised at all. He doesn't reach that. And if he doesn't. I'm not gonna say they're in trouble, but this isn't a fast team. This is not a fast team at all. Go ahead, Mikey. He had last played in the NHL in twenty twelve twenty thirteen for the New Jersey Devils. So he spent the past five seasons playing in Rhode five seasons, bro in the cage shell. It's a lot of Russian gas. I mean, I was over over there for a year. It was like a is like dog years. He's basically been away for thirty five years because one year in Russia's seven dogs thirty five years ago he played in the NHL good luck. Mike and Mike concern echoes you Ryan. Cova Chuck is doubted and skilled as as he is. It was last when we last Rahm how much does he still have leapt in today's modern, any Joey speed rules? He's what would we save? Thirty five, thirty six when kings they really I wouldn't really say they went out other than him in really improve their roster all that much they. I mean, they didn't lose much. They didn't really bring much in. But when you didn't make the playoffs last year, you probably need to do a little bit more than coal, Chuck. I think you know, I wouldn't say the seizing his hinged on him. I if he's a superstar, like he was five years ago all level than, yeah, he could be the difference, but they're old. They're still kind of rolling out a lot of the same guys. They won those cups with having said, all that join quick. He's he's peaking in his career right now is a goaltender if he has, you know another a great season. It will keep them in competition Shirley, Shirley within shooting distance of a playoffs. But the tings don't scare me today, like the kings. Give me four years ago. No point. Right decor, groups, getting older. That's something we set a few times here. I still think that they have about two three years of gas up in a tank to be competitive and be one of the top teams in the league. I mean, anytime you got onset culpa tar down the middle followed by Jeff Carter, that's a fucking hardcore one to this car, Joe. And he came out of the gates like a bat out of hell. And then he when he get that injury killed their team. Right. I think I think a lot of the go ahead RA you're going to chime in their buddy. I just going to ask these cots men rocket. Yeah, he's a weapon and he's a ranch. I thought to ask prudently, they have as you snapshot, Jesus Christ God. Currently they have Adrian campy who's another bubble guy. If he has a breakout year that just gives them even more depth up the middle. And of course, I Nate Thompson fourth line center, which which he's back there, correct guys believe so. Yeah. What was which play? Nate Thompson, and I would say he's probably one of the best guys in the league faceoffs on the back end, they're solid. Once again, they're big, they heavy, they're heavy play, very good, structured hockey. They're always going to be competitive. So I would say that they're going to be they're going to be a playoff team here. Boys. Yeah, for me, I think they will be, but. I'm so pissed off that I picked him to beat Vegas in the first round and they got swept. So I don't even want to say they're going to get in screw. It would think buddy. Yeah. Like I said, man, I I don't think I should say. I don't think they approve of everything like what's set. It hinges on coal, Chuck so much man. If he's just mediocre then I think the season could be taught Pedo, but they should be interested. I mean, they still got Andrzej COPA tie. He's a joy to watch. He's what? Oh, he's only thirty years old. He's not that old. He's he's only thirty. He's only thirty dude. He had. I mean he's not a guy played out west. He probably had more of probably should've had a little bit more of like hot people talking about him for the hot last year, thirty five goals. Fifty seven points ninety two points in eighty two games. I mean that's a hell of a year. Last year he kind of gets lost in the shuffle. Man. I think people forget about him. You're on the Selke. Obviously, people know that you're talking to on co-pathetic. Correct, right. Yeah. But we didn't have much Aukin beast. You know who he is of the west. Or. Yeah, I would. I would put up a scoring. Maybe I was gonna say more of a barcus. Oh, or which he's an up and comer. They're very similar to heavy through the middle. Great skaters, they just play an unbelievable two hundred foot game. These guys are are a great point. Another Berge on just so reliable all over the place such an intelligent player. So we gotta move on all boys to probably I think the Duff favorites, the favorites, the San Jose, Sharks. What do you guys want me to start it off? Yeah, go right ahead him and we talked about on the other last week's podcast just because that's an a trade went down, but this is a wagon as far as regular season went last year at the beginning, Martin Jones struggled a little bit. I expect him to be dialed in. And then they got a, they got a solid backup in Dell and he he had to come in twenty nine times last year. That's a lot for a backup. He had a two point, six, four goals against average with a nine point one, four save percentage. Yup. Having fifteen wins and five losses. So pretty good record for him there. I mean, top four on the back end is fucking solid. And even they're five and six, the fence and with Dylan and brought a couple of big boys to help kill penalties and even big guys are still fairly mobile. Their top six are very impressive. Albeit to see how Vander Kane comes in. He had an unbelievable end of the season when he got traded, which probably led him to get in that big ticket with them. Just, you know, sometimes you don't see the most motivation from guys, you know, starting those big contracts, they got their payday, Joe Thornton. You know older now, so intelligent, but he is slowing down Cavazos key getting. Bit older, but I think they're still able to to get it done on the bottom. Six is is really where I have a lot of question marks and like the Zona coyotes where they have a lot of question Mark, these guys going to be, you know, very solid NHL players because they're just coming up from the minors that Myer says this guy. That's my. That's my biking guy. I started. Surely he's, he's one of my look, lookout this year type guys. What's a Swiss guy too? Yeah, he's a it was the ninth overall pick in two thousand fifteen. At to fifteen. Yeah. And. Twenty one goals last year, dude. I mean, he's a beast. He's a big guy, six, six feet as heavy though too hard to play against. And he's one of those players he kind of haven't thought of in the past, but that San Jose has done a good job of retooling on the fly without having very high picks. I mean ninth over. All right, that's that's pretty high. But a lot of their other guys, you see people making impacts that didn't have to be first round pick. So when you have a d. like they do in two superstars wanna call center burns. One of them's going to be on the ice all game. That's kind of how it's going to go. I mean, they'll be very few shifts when one of them isn't on the ice, and because of that, it'll be so easy getting out of their own zone that they're going to get these Fords, the puck in in positions to make plays and have years that that they really haven't had before. I mean, you know, notwithstanding Pevec ski could sure Thornton guys who've done it forever, but incredible team. I think they're going to do a lot of damage. I think the it's a tough building, the play. No, that it's, it's my pick to win the Pacific and are before you start going there. They got this anti swale Mela coming over from Finland, not don't know too much about him. He's a pencil in on as a third line center right now. I don't know what's going to happen camp always changes things. And just somebody's question marks like Sorenson. He had thirty two games during the regular season. He had a fucking awesome. Playoff ended up having four goals and assists in the in the ten games they played. But once again, he's not proven at the NHL level yet. So I'm interested to see what some of these guys bring another. A guy, I'm not sure goes Donskoy obviously he's fucking unbelievable. He's got some high level skill. Just a little inconsistent lit up the coyotes last year. I know that get fourteen goals eighteen. I don't know if he's able to jump into that top six guys because once another guy Kevin Lombok the ball because I said, I think maybe the Bank la- Bank good at your butchering good. Very, very good. But once again, small sample size, he had seventy seven games last year, eleven goals. Twenty nine assists. So a lot of a lot of the guys on on their bottom six, our little unproven as far as doing it for many games but should be interesting. Why do the giants give as weight off of a fifty million dollars their quarterback and throw the fucking ball foul areas. I was waiting all the fun bit. Oh, are you. Oh, are you? Are you Cowboys? We haven't actually mentioned any the gambling on jet, but it's I know you had said you were gonna take San Jose to win the division interesting of the two of the sites used one had the favourite to win the division out of plus one fifty five and the other side Hatem at a plus three fifty, which is I'm going to try to jump on that tomorrow. Once my credit from fucking this week's debacle. But if San Jose is going to win the division biz they're gonna need better performance from their goal. Tender's I know you said Aaron delegated decent yellows j. and he did good for backup, but my mighty Jones to five five's not too bad, but the nine fifteen, say percentage again, that's just not what you want. Number one goaltender have you want? I'm the least nine tool if not higher. So they're gonna compete for the division. You know he's gotta be better. I obviously I think they got to do one of the top three teams in division if not win it. This stack man up front to just talking about what's his face fucking. Pevez sqi eastern while he's thirty three years old man, I didn't think he was that old. I mean, he's still plays well, twenty two goals last year, low and control. He's having a hell of a career is off or pervo ski. But I mean, it's fucking out and Carlson is so huge, man. I mean it you can't see it changes that team. I'll just makes them that much. But unlike Whitsett they're gonna have facedly him what burns on the ice all all the time. You have to weapons like that on the back end, it's it's fucking tough to beat. I mean, Brent burns led the team in scorelines twelve goals. Fifty five assists sixty seven points in Carlson was on the team. He would have been, let's see thirds corn on a team. So I don't know if that's indicative of this score in depth not doing enough for the forwards or just that these guys are so fucking good. But yeah, the San Jose definitely gonna grab a playoffs, but whether they wrap up the division that's going to depend on Mont Jones, having a better yet boys on Vancouver to even have to talk about them. Vase, auditing Vegas yet. You got to all biz good job have a Vancouver though. Everyone I suck watch out. I don't know like how this kid didn't go higher in the draft. Two guys know who Elias Pederson is idea. Okay. Okay. You just fuck in wait to see this kid. He's going to be a superstar in the NHL incredible player all these hop right in and make an impact. I'm not. I'm not saying this year. I'm not saying right away. I'm saying in the future, this kid will be a superstar in the NHL. So I'm saying I was just a little confused by their offseason moves. I love Antoine Roussel and what he brings in. I mean, Jay, go, of course he's been doing it a while over in Washington. I, I just wasn't crazy about the amount of money in the term. I mean, I just I thought maybe it was a little bit unnecessary. Like we're other teams. Offering Jay beagle like to point to, let's say you ended up getting a three or four year deal at two point. Five. That's a lot of fucking money to be paying a fourth line center. Yeah, he, I think it was kind of the perfect storm. In terms of you have a great year and you win the Stanley Cup as your unrestricted, your whole team loves you. Your organization loves you. They know they can't pay you as much as you're going to get on the open market, but they're also happy to probably speak glowingly of you when people call and ask. So at somebody who I'm, I'm glad he got that money. I don't. I. I mean, the guys, he'll maybe a little overpaid, your unrestricted. You win the cop and you play the role. He did you. That's what's going to happen. But I've never heard a bad word about the guy. I just think that it's going to be a long year in Vancouver. I, you know, you think. Besser Besser right away is somebody that's fun to watch. But after that it just gets, I mean, guys blow Bohora VAT, like, you know, he's great great player just like to look at all those top centers that he's gonna be line match against and the Pacific. That's a tough task for him. I mean, let's hope this Elias Pederson comes on the scene faster than you thought with. Because after that, the drop off down the middle Braden suitor and Jay beagle I do like the addition of antwon resell for the simple fact that at the beginning of the year last year, they had door set in the lineup, ruffling feathers, and they were actually staying competitive the first fifteen twenty games. So I'm assuming that green wanted him to come over and play identical role in Antoine Rusalka out a little bit of secondary scoring as well. And also Sam gonyea my former teammate and Edmonton a good friend. He's there. He had a good year there last year. When I look at the. She. It's funny. I remember when Alexander Ed ler came into the NHL I thought he was going to. I thought he was going to be a Norris trophy winner. He had he had some moments in seasons where it was just incredible. I know you know, he's balanced him injuries here and there, but mentioned to see the type of year he has because there's moments when he's so dominant the way he skates kind of similar to ecm Larsen a little bit. Like back in the day, at least the way he skated his shots. Incredible. He hammers guys do when he wants. So that's somebody that could have a great year. Good Branson, great leader, good guy, teammates love playing with him will fight anyone. He someone that's that's important to that team. It's just you look at you look at their roster in. There's some very good players at the top end of the in the forwards, but the depth is is the biggest issue. And that's why I see them missing the playoffs. Again. I agree with you there with. I don't. I don't see them getting over the hump. I mean the fucking thirty two one win the division. That's a. That's a pretty large number to win a division Brock does at an outstanding rookie campaign twenty nine toxin just sixty two games played. You know, he's probably going to improve on that Boho of that's another kid who I like to watch peachy to get better every year, but you know, huge less. They lost the sedan twins. You know that's two two guys that I know they haven't been putting up the same numbers. They did you know ten twelve years ago, but they were still putting fifty sixty points, Europe providing, you know, a lot of leadership in the room shore and you know what they do on the ice. That's that's two huge holes that you really. Yeah, I tell you that I was at that game their last home game in Vancouver last year when the final salute? Yeah, but it was awesome, and then I forget which one of them they scored the OT winter. I still get them confused all twenty years later. They played unbelievable that gain. They were buzzing around and every time they were on the ice, the whole crowd would be on their feet, just cheer and stuff. It was. It was an emotional night. You don't need to see your team lose boys. Fuck when this a game like that with those guys retiring, it was nice to see him score the winner. See legend get send off and then obviously the other one assistant on it. Cost naturally also probably going to look at young American defensemen Quin us. We should hopefully see this. Honestly, camps just started up way. Didn't he stay in college? That's okay. I was just going to say on back to Michigan for the season. Okay. Camps literally just started this week. So I I'd mentally not up to date on who went back and who didn't so scratch that we don't have to restart. But yeah, beagle who sell the beagle signed and yet, like you said, with the teams love to pay that championship quality. We start here in Boston, like guys who left for more money they. And yet I think you see a lot of sports when guys when that she chip, there's a premium on them, guys want to kind of pay for that that that championship guy Calabro whatever level they're bringing with them. So it's gonna be interesting. What happens there? What about God debt Grenell? Is he looking to make the squad? This shares what's caught. It will definitely push for older. Okay. We'll be Baker winter, but the big thing for them, again, lodge view last year Jacob box from you play with him in San Antonio. Right. What's. Ago or golf with them all time. Yeah. Best story of all time if I told on here. But when he was sleeping on the boss, have I said, this story. Tell him to go again for the new for the new listeners for anyone who missed that persona. We took a bus from Oklahoma. Well, yeah, San Antonio, Oklahoma City, and you know the bus left after our game, say like, eleven. We get into Oklahoma City like six AM and guys just go right off the bus, which is a sleeper boss. So you know, you got your own little. How do you? How do you describe there's little like bunks on the boss that has like shades you can shut or whatever to everyone gets off the bus. You're, you're just woke up, walk upstairs, you go back to sleep. Well, you know, then you wake up at at noon and you have pre game meal or whatever. And we're down there. We're like, where's markie? I must be sleeping. Those need eat three-game meal. And then we get back down for the snack before the game, and we're like, oh, where's markie must be over at the rink. We gets the Rick. Where's markie? Finally, somebody gets touch them. This could savage was so tired so asleep. He stayed sleep on the bus when we got into Oklahoma City ever got off the bus. And next thing you know the bus driver by drives the bus twenty five minutes to the bus graveyard and mushroom woke up like four hours later, and he looked out the window and he was in a parking lot with seven thousand under buses. He's like, oh shit that he had to take his blanket you to get off the bus. He took this blanket. He chucked it over the board wire fence that doesn't allow junk boxes and scumbags Trump into the post graveyard. See the chose blanket over the barbed wire crawl over the barbed wire fence, and he like waited for an Uber barely made the game. It's I'm home my God. Like you didn't get attacked by fucking Doberman behind heartlessly. I didn't know you guys had a game that day. I just thought he fell asleep. And then in the morning he woke up, I love him. Well, he's a handsome, Allah oxo anyways, he needs to be a little better than his. I nine one two, two, seven one last Jeff. If the connects are gonna make the playoffs, which they're not fucking. So, yeah, move on last. She is. Call, you never know. I feel like the biggest Golden Knights put me on the map last year as a hockey personality. It was all in the wrong way, but I still get on the map, no pubs bat. Any pub was the saying, kind of like Dallas put Jae versity is good publicity, Kennedy, JFK, put Dallas on the map. Who was it that wasn't song. That one out residency publicity is good. Mostly riot. I got any publicity's just through. They got wet your boy paulie walnuts paulie walnuts who's promised to come on the Dave retires. All he won't come on before. I don't. I don't know if he won't, but he won't be nearly as cool as when he retires and comes on boys their their top six, very, very good. Looking that max, Patrick deal, helping them out. Alex talk. They got him penciled in second line. Right winger. He came on the scene. That's a tough loss for the Minnesota wild to. I believe they put it. They just gave them gave him to Vegas in order to protect somebody else. So thank you very much. You know, couple, their bottom six is is a little suspect that no secto had a big playoff. So maybe he's ready to elevate his game and boys as far as the back end. I don't know. I'm looking at this team. I think a lot of things still have to go. Right? Like they did last year in order for them to make the playoffs. Really? Yeah, I just was Schmidt be going down. Their back end doesn't stand out a lot to me. I believe Shaef the doors still doesn't have a deal. So right now they got two young two young defensemen who will be starting the season there at imagine that they get something done before the season starts. But you know, I like call a. Miller played with them. They got Nick Holden who who signed there as well. But I don't know guys. I just I feel like a lot of things went right for them in this tough Pacific Division. I think that they might even be the second worst team in the desert this year. So much. By no biases zero live, they, they got Marsha. So they got Smith data Carlson, they got patchy already, they got paulie walnuts, destiny. This team is going to be in the playoffs. Again, I was more on on Dom. You're smart, I'm stupid. You're not. I'm uglier handsome. I know I've heard it all this team's good man. I will say though I actually, in terms of when I tell everyone that we don't know exactly what we're talking about. I had no idea shape. Theodore never contract right now at shocking to me. I think it's a smart move by him. He's got some leverage here. I'm pretty sure he doesn't signed yet. It doesn't have much leverage. Hear me out though. Schmidt goes down for the first twenty games even a little bit more. Leverett helped. Yeah, that that's what what imagine maybe something would be done by now, but when did Schmidt news came? He was quite putting stuff in Schmidt's, workout, shake. Breaking breaking. Finale send it out, send the rumors out Grenell. I forgot to tell you before I got a greed picture means Ediburgh throw that up on the Instagram he's over. He's like, he's just teach me lessons on the golf course. Vegas is sick, or are they gonna flurry in net. Imagine if now that I'm saying they're good, they're gonna stink. The fuck. I just think the atmosphere in the arena guys love playing there. It's tough. It's tough to go in there and win, and I, I just think it will continue. I don't. I don't necessarily think go to the Cup final or have the regular season like they did, but I do think there are playoff team in in that won't change in. They love plan for Galant. It's a good team is tough to play against in. It's going to be another fun ride for Vegas and already before your time in the reason why they don't make playoffs. I just think that the central is so strong that they're going to have a couple of wildcard teams. But if either way in the west, it's gonna be a dogfight. I mean, I think you could even do they might even gotten better. I mean, yeah, they did lose the real deal. James deal. They lost Peron who didn't play a ton to Todd, didn't really play much in the snail coming to be scratched by most of the Cup, but they brought a traded for end sign max patch. You already obviously thirty goals, consistent dirty goal scorer and then they brought Paul staff need to. I, I know he's thirty two, but I mean we saw how I mean chip man. I wish we've seen that kid in the playoffs for the last several years. He was a gamer in the playoffs wits. I know you said you weren't surprised by, but he was tremendous Pau Stassen in the playoffs for Winnipeg washed you. He was absolutely tremendous. I think the fact that there hadn't him in patch, you're ready losing, you know, Neil. Those other two, I think you could even say they're better man. I don't think you're gonna have really much of a drop off mock Andre Fleury. I think he needed the change of scenery. We saw the he's capable of doing this. We started Pittsburgh. I think it was just what he needed. It kind of lit a fire under his ass. I don't see him falling off at all in his fires, the the crowd. I don't think that's a first year thing, man, I think this is what it's going to be. I think Vegas is just such a unique place that they're going to be doing. These wacky shows every night, the pre-game stuff, the going to be into what I think just that's going to be the atmosphere. I'm like when he came to the garden in the eighties, you, you know, the crowd was on top of the pros are gonna bury on the corner. Just it's like the arena is going to have its own personnel, Ian. I don't see that going away. I think they're going to contend for the division as well, which to go to the odds one site. Adam plus two eighty the how the had them plus two fifty. So they're almost a co favorite with San Jose for the division. I can see why. I think they'll be one of the top two in the division. Again, couple other mentions boys. They got a carpenter who came over from San Jose, who's a solid player would I know you like them? You talked about during playoffs, I remember. Yeah. Yep. And then and then a little insurance policy with the Oscar Lindberg. I don't know if he's going to be pencilled in at the start of the year, but. There yet the American Hockey League affiliate, Chicago, which usually doesn't mind stack up with players. So boys listening to you guys, aren't you kind of convinced you to maybe change my mind a little bit? I actually think that they're going to sneak into one of those later spots. I think at San Jose Vegas, Calgary is my three Pacific going playoffs. What's what's interesting is just to go back Vegas last year. They had five different colors. They they used. They started last year. I mean, my God, a fight only started forty six games which you know low. I oughta, you know, Malcolm sue ban get in there. Max Maxime lightly. Gosse legacy Oscar dance, getting a few. And then a kid Dylan Ferguson. They called him up. I think, from juniors for a couple of games. So you know, it's unusual for a team that have that much success in the regular season have rely on five different netminders. Well, that wraps up the Pacific Division going over the the additions subtractions what we think's going to happen. So now we're going to send it to two young. Superstars, or I guess right now superstar Hanif is not there yet. He couldn't be. He's a man rocket though Hannifin and Jack Eichel our guys before we get to these interviews. I just wanted to take a second to talk to you about my blue. Sometimes it's hard to find vape that satisfying in simple inconvenient blue who introduced vaping to the world is now introducing my blue. My blue gives you all the satisfaction with none of the hassle. He just click and go with my blues, easy to use one, click liquid pods. You can switch between flavors and seconds, range of flavors to choose from and much more. 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I was out the apartment actually during the draft when we go down and you know, I thought, yeah, I've awesome. Someone was gonna happen to some talk on my agent and you know what the new owner coming in and he's going to be making some some changes. So I kind of feeling someone's going to happen just because the money reasons and stuff like that, but nothing on the draft. So I was like, oh, whatever. Maybe happen later in the summer and Mexico movie theater. Actually, my brother and sister and got quick buzz. My agent for vibrated. The movies are April billionaires. So what you're going to messaging climbing call me. It's important when I was all right. I want all the time. He was like, yeah, like I think you're getting traded calorie any minute. I had no idea calories in the mix. All they're going to attack it. Thank you. Well, I think you've gotta be excited right away. They'll Canada Haughey Carolina's eight thousand people the game something. So you've got to be every night. It's going to be packed non Pomeranz. That's some sick. I mean, calories a Utah town. I know John and Ohka chop real well. And when Hong with me over there and he's a great player. Good deal. Yeah, you did. You did. He's a really good player too. I think he's super unrated. I think you know if they put them with with the right players, you know, he's, he's gonna rip it up. So that's the kind of transformed a Canadian city to be fun to play because they got a, I got such a good group of guys there where I mean not saying calories a beautiful place being playing candidates, coal, you think like being like warm, weather, golfing, how he's never that bad. I don't think they got the Chinook winds ever heard of him. They keep it warm. I heard. Okay. Nice. Kind of making that up. Other guy here Jack Eichel not a big deal superstar. How are you? Thanks for coming on. Talk me about this year talking about this summer. What's going on some big changes in how good is this man? Do you know? I just watched the same highlights. Everyone else has he gets me hard. He does pretty good filth filled. So him snapping up to you? Yeah, we won the lottery. I was selling. Pompa we ones. I mean, he's pretty pretty ridiculous. Toughest piece to get now is a number one team. A high price teams aren't getting and he's like a really, really good dude, which is cool. I went out and went to dinner with them after he got drafted before developing camp, and he's really good guy like super, super chill. He's like no ego to Sweden on the world. He's, he's almost like kind of like a little bit naive where he doesn't even understand how big with the Elliot's at all. You know, like people are just at dare. He doesn't even understand that yet, and it's cool. He even asked to split the Bill with me. You know, like I thought that was pretty, it's a class. I asked him to go to dinner and then join us split it. And I was like. Tiny. Thought it was. I thought it was pretty cool of us as I thought I wouldn't have. I would have. Well, so like I mean, your air miles to. Begun extra points on that card that we can maybe transfer. But no, I mean him get the fact you guys got him and then the big trade with O'Reilly who I know your boys with. But all the pieces you got back. Yeah, we got a lot for them and people ask me like, you know what? You thought of it. It kind of sucks because he was like one of my best buddies and we were really tight. And there's kind of like rumors out there that me and him had like problems, rumors like that around Witcher's Kana ridiculous. And people were like running with it at the time and and it's kind of crazy. 'cause we're actually really tight. And he was like one of my best buddies, and I just want to kind of wanted to put those to rest, be worse room, results guys crushing is. Later on my true by the way you ever think when those rumors are out that you guys just like make video funnier to come out and say this bullshit. We're doing it all the time because he's, he scored a goal last year and I went over to like give them Knox, and he kind of breeze me as a joke, and then the buffalo media ran with it and they were like their allies. Reaching there were like, look at this like O'Reilly Eichel like they're having problems in me and him are like dine laugh. And so we started thinking like every time, one of scores like breezy other guy. Tire five. So we were kind of like we were messing around with it. Obviously, going to ever go to new level. We're going to go toe-to-toe during again do it. I'll let you hit me first and people love it, though they'll be running with it and then you actually hate the guy. Well, either way, like my question that way from the NHL with these two Massachusetts, born and bred. Thanks a lot. Not a big deal. You guys were the number one guys. Like I heard about you. You guys are like twelve years old, the same age, right couple months. Okay. But did you plan the same team growing up? No. So he I'm ninety six at the ninety six thousand. He's early ninety. All all right. Not the same teams in why we played cross paths. The Decian mala. Yeah. So when you go out there for junior or sophomore year. I was a junior pioneer, pioneer area. People don't even know how good Ann Arbor is. Do they? It's unreal place to live. I love that place and you live in there in high school, how your billets mine, right. Great. Yeah, mine are great. Kick. Shara. Do it was the biggest bunch of bullshit. Like my body back home, Pat full. You know, he's a Boston cop. He was there and he had this great family so they were going to be done taking kids. They had a kid who was like eleven or twelve, and then a younger daughter and I was out there one night. I crashed my car and I was like, all my father's going to kill me. So I made up a story that I got hit in the parking lot and he's like my dad knew right away as like, okay, well, there sure there's cameras in the parking lot. So we're going to cause a lie. I actually buried it to a basketball hoop back and I would drive it. So he's like, go tell your family can lied about the God damn car accident egos. My car. I'll tell the billet family that and they're like upset. I was like my little. Fast forward fast forward thanksgiving morning, wake up and Green Bay gamblers still have a team that just disgusting thanksgiving morning. Mike eaves calls me and seven and all your stuff packed at the fucking Arbor ice cube, I square whatever the rank as you kicked out of the house. I'm like, what did I do? I didn't do a book report from pioneer high thing and the teacher was like, where's your report? So I told my billet mama. I need the movie. You gotta go rent me the movement. She's like, why should my teacher said? I didn't understand the book. The movie will help me, but I was just panicking. She called the teacher found out that the she didn't ask me to actually watch the movie and then they packed up all my stuff. She threw my toothpaste in with my sweaters into drop the box up. I slept in my car one pioneer. Hi. Seventeen years old. Dude. I was like, walk this. Homeless legit homeless scrub from Massachusetts. You know people park there for the tailgates event. Scituate special. I was trying to find internet on WI fi password from the school buckled Craxton. No, I wasn't drinking that. I just I was so worse. Dr ever backed up berry, never write them a letter. You're all built or phone call saying, fuck you. Look at all. I did, and I used to like send the kid like emails like, and then try to stay in touch them. They gas me from him. But yeah, those as my Bill, it was the book they had to read catcher in the rye. I dunno. I was like zero movie. I can rent the movie. Never the same book shows. Yes, arguing Aisling whole accident happened with me now. I was I was living on his own planet by the way, call it away. We're talking about calling. I'm leaving like completely launch rink. Tell that story quick before you go. No, that's really quick. Oh. Oh. What was it? We were. Combine it was worth the Columbine. It was become trapped jersey on and onstage on stage auto, a Senator auto media's all around them. They ask them to describe how functions and he like, yeah, you know, describe yourselves. Now he already can't speak. Oh game. He can't speak if it was somebody else in the room. He's he, he called them something. Yeah. I like to refer to myself as a bit of a rat ring and his wife. I'm sorry, say incorrect, ratty. Coach. On my rat rank, the cameras on apple us like like he knew right away. Himself a routing through like everyone so called meringue. Oh, like what was what we about. Speaking of wrecks. We gotta talk about this three on three where they've made up on going on here is going into. Site. Sorry. Sorry. Yes. So go ahead. Yes. So I lived the long I live with no ability. I'm in call with his mom, his license at the time, but he has Caro there. So he wanted me to drive them, pick them up every morning. So I, I had his car, so I was I left early. I was roundly for schools, and we fourth interro being late and I took a wrong turn in Arbor like where we live, it was kind of boonies is like pretty dark in wrong, left down a street and call the sack. Why round the call this tribe directly, the someone's Parkar on the inside and get over to more Odal Whyte's entire car. I go off my neighbor's door and I call him and his mom drive. His car is a pancake. It is completely land rather Jeep. They use about the cry, so so you could pull up with either you have to call Jeep, hey, what what's up? I'm like, I just totaled the car. Wait. So why are you going to fast congressman. Congressman. Or swollen. They have strict rules can't be late at the. All about the around. They get some army in them. They're like, you can't be late. Crash, your buddies, Jeep Wrangler, of course, what he has a car doesn't have his licence. All these coming in here today I sent him like, what are we going to say? I'm like, why he? How are you? Oh, this guy's that dumb. If you just like you the rat rank. Okay. So going into the three on three way. Should we let me ask a couple of hockey questions because hockey fans like to hear hockey questions, we think hockey fans like here three on three with pigeons from Bentley offense. Bentley more than they like hearing about like their season. These guys are playing at the tyngsborough rank and three on threes. Birds took Sperry Tewksbury doing brisket Tewksbury the same thing in my mind. So their team is you to Evan Rodriguez Daniel Regan h l rookie of the year and macrobiotic Bruins defenseman you guys are losing games in this league. Now we haven't lost bent loss, but we, we had a one goal game our first week hiking. The Whitney brothers from BC and they're like, guys are hiring. Twitter. Relative code search seems everyone's blocked shots. Everyone's committed mass around. We kind of mess around for a little, but then it's funny bear down like we're losing a few weeks ago with eight minutes left, and then we Connolly brought your we might as well play a little bit here, like where you score one point, you're actually fired up a little bit of a mom. No, not that game winner with like point, seven seconds left. That was accelerated the game winning. I drove straight home. Berry devastated that the other team was like we had, we had. Show up for two. We just couldn't seal the deal. They fired towards. So who's the tender in that always our first week, we don't know who the kiss guy you guys skin. It stood on absolutely soon as head and like usually rotate the goals around like we leave them out to dry like three on os and shit, and he's, he makes good. Saves makes unbelievable saves. So we're like, all right, your, whether the summer. It's like, yes, I bring him a big water every week. He's that's all he brings me to can Poland springs cost me eighty nine cents IKEA, water guy. What's match you got, obviously or American. How long do you think before it takes for Americans? Basically takeover Canadians in the NHL all? I mean, the percentage. I mean, it's been getting lower lower every year for twenty years now. I mean, it seems like I really, but yeah, it's been. It's been dipping consistently. I mean, if you think maybe ten years, you know it's going to be even or is it going to take longer than that or what. I mean, numbers was, I don't know. But I mean, think about like skill allies. There's always going to be those top Canadian players. I mean, think about connecting the Canadians could put two or three Olympic teams in if NHL went and and probably be pretty second team could win. Exactly. So, I mean, I think like you think about it like that, and there's a lot of really, really high end Canadians in our league. But I think obviously the US has done a really good job and probably pretty good amount of the top and US guys have come from the national team, and I think that pretty good feeder what they're doing with that. So to touch on a national team, do a lot of these kids have money growing up who end up going or. No, it's well, the reason I ask that is because they've been doing that's your angle is a Canadian. I would to rich. No, no. I was going to say, you know, same thing with Canadians in order to get to the level at the top in Canada, you have to have a stick handling coach. Now you have to have all these coaches ice time, slow expensive equipment, plane teams, social. So already on a national scale, you're eliminating a lot of people who just can't simply afford to put their kids to hockey. The reason why skin Scandinavians are getting better and better and better is because they, it's, it's open everyone and they passed down equipment and and it gives everyone. I would say a level playing field, but if more kids are able to stay in hockey, the older they get while there might have been a kid who was good enough to make the NFL, but his parents can afford to put them in hockey NHL. So that's why it's like, I mean, I, it's going to continue to grow and Scandinavia because of the way they're doing it over there and the Swedish people in the best people, and they're the best people and their athletic. And like I said, I was talking to a couple of the finishes who disguise and they passed their equipment down when they're done using it. They don't just re salad or whatever. United seventy goals when I was dead. But, but but there's people who don't Anthony. Stewart was a guy. He didn't have a ton of money growing up. So a lot of the kids on the teams, parents would ship and help pay for his season and his ice time. And and and so that's a great question. All right. And the, I would say the percentage of NHL is probably not a lot of poor kids that make it to the Djelic is you do need some cabbage, the play, not to say it's all rich, but I think a great story is, you know, blend metropolit- he played Toronto. I from LeBron he's guy grew up in the projects in Toronto like he's rather new jail for murder. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Yeah, he's about his hard scrabble and blue closet and get he had. He had shit growing up, you know, father's way, chill. I think the same can be said for the other side though, for somebody who who doesn't really have a whole lot, obviously their parents work hard to to make sure that they have the opportunities to play. And I think that they, they take it, you know, I mean, they appreciate it more. They don't take for granted and maybe there. Our values are a little bit different. I'm not saying, you know, because obviously I friends that are on both sides of the spectrum. I mean, I didn't grow up like superwealthy. My parents did as much as they could for me from the minute. I started playing hockey and I think that you know now it's nice to be able to help them a little bit. But yeah, like you said, think about poverty throughout the US doling. Some kids can't. Basketball. Doc is probably the most expensive sport. Yeah, equipment cheap. But actually switching gears now I want I ask you something. Now how familiar with Cowdery I know you've probably visit a couple of times during the regular seasons, you know much about the town, the history, or did you like jet feet? Nah, I don't have a place that I'm looking now, but I don't really know much about the city. I know it's. Populations like pretty similar to Boston. I know it's cold there, but I don't know too much about the city to be honest with you. The topic of Johnny Ben. They love it, love plan. So it's like three hours from Edmonton, but hen light years. They're not like I think they get from the same areas. Calgary's go a little more. It's a lot more aesthetically, please unions, sustained necks you? I was ready to snap. He'd I was with with Jani good dro- anywhere wearing for shoes this year at the Sam pages where Gucci's. So. I don't know if I told the story of the previous podcast, but he the him and smitty and a couple other guys had to ride horses in the parade for the Calgary stampede leading on Thursday. And he wore like shorts like regular like doll shorts, and then Gucci boots. He showed one of his buddies showed me a picture of him on this horse in these Gucci, loafers and east Faulk Indus, having a gale time. Kid is unbelievable. Like, how does he get away with that? How does he everything he does? I just love watching hockey. Live off the ice. I wish we lived in Boston. Then he'd be out all with them on this one would be tough to answer, but with what went on Carolina. Like I just been here in stuff about this owner just coming in changing things up, ruffling feathers. And yeah, not not an ideal situation. It was tough. You know, I think it's tough because they have so many guys is like all the players such beauties, and I think you know a big positive for them, Brennan, more coach and everything. Rod, he's gonna do an awesome job there. What was he doing when you use an assistant co bash? But I think he's just going to be a players coach. And I think the guy's obviously is a really hard working guy, but I think he's going to do a great job and it is. It's a weird situation, you know, because the owner came in and I mean, he's obviously really smart guy, but I think he he is real hands on. He kind of wants run the whole ship. He's he's almost like the GM in a way he's run the Ted, never. So it's a different situation there. It's pretty strange, but I hope I hope Roddy and I hope it guys do is Brindamour still a beast in the way room. It's sick immersing. You should see this work. He'll put like a forty pound weight vest on going the gym and this like rip Paul ops and. He'll work like three times a day. He's the most shredded guys. That gives me Zayed's team depressed about the fact that a guy like that much older than me is so much better shape. And like I look try being me on your urine and worse. This look at RA, holy, fuck puke. Shit. Well, you've moved on from Calgary. I want to get back to more like when you guys were younger, like what was doing? We're about Eichel just like the next fucking Gretzky a- like when you're like ten year, like this kid, was it already at ten. No. It was weird because I'm glad we're really thirteen twelve thirteen fourteen. He was actually playing for the junior Bruins. He's junior. So we were all in king's time with the social kings game Sunday him. Yeah, he's Saturday. He was my junior, so I don't really seem hole and he was he was all year older. So I don't really seem a whole lot until always starting festival camps. And then I went to the US program with them. But yeah, man, he was nasty. Ako just like that hard for you like, no, you're the best player you're like, or you just always thinking I'm going to. I'm getting better. I'm getting better what people are saying? Well, I mean. It was more like a comparison on. It was more of the comparison like around here. Right? But then you think about you go to tournament and you see a kid from Chicago or Toronto or Montreal, and there's you feel like there's always someone better than you. So you kind of think of what I always thought about it like that and. You know, they're always somebody better. They're always still is. And so I think that was kind of my motivation is just trying work like, and it was good because there are so many guys around here that were so good like him and all the other guys that we grew up with Whitey like it was a good. There was really good age group that I think we pushed each other because we were competitively always wanted to be better. And I think it ended up working out. You think. Yeah, I don't know what you saw what you're signed a summer worked out going back to Carolina? No. What what do you think the like pressing issues off of that franchise to succeed on there? Is it just like a lack of interest in the area? Just seems like they're trying to get over the hump. I mean, what would you think they'll ever make? I mean, oh, they wanna Cup it. Oh, six, but it seemed like they let the air out after that. That's tough MAB and it's one of those those markets where unless like they're winning and they're nasty, they're going to have a real hard time getting fans. And this when I was there three years. And I mean, we probably sold out once or twice a whole season. That's that's so like, it's just it's just awesome. You mean see play like the Rangers. Right. I mean their whole, it's all ring a bell. The logical from the north moved down to North Carolina. So it's that's one Straubing as a skin, like a solid fan base or consistent people showing up. That's why it's going to be a bit different from meeting Calgary, just because it's me sold out every night. So it's. So easy to get up to play. They're gonna be awesome. Well, it's all there is, you know, it's like that's like the the town really revolves around that team. I don't know if you've answered these questions too much. What's the number change. Jesus Robert on us. I love it all call Ronald hall. Now he's actually opening up a school, but it's like a hockey. Making notebooks. I'm going on for almost with my kid. I get older Rippin been shot and a nine year old goal, eight. Video of him. But when milling at his. Attention. He doesn't want the attention. Let me win and ninety headphones onto now. The biggest on, but I appreciate everything. He does believable person. It's incredible. Also that person. I have to like them. I like him. I just don't like his antics on the court, the flop in and just like he's every interview. He's got earphones in to me. It's like he's so nice in some areas where to me that's disrespectful to the person asking questions like anytime a media person came up to me, I'd giving up most respect because they're the people that fucking well, they grow there. You the. Hey, just because if I was on asking questions, I wouldn't want fucking somewhat ear buds, and I'd feel like a pigeon Eichel cubs on when you talk is going to put. This guy. Sure. I always wanted to get nine back. I thought it was a good opportunity to obviously we've had a couple of years in buffalo, so I figured maybe switch it up and I were at BU I work before be a little bit here. I just thought it was a good opportunity to grab it. I'd rather me change and get it. Then somebody else come along and grab it. And then I kind of regret not having it. So. Or by the Milwaukee. Does that happen in the NHL in when you go in with the Siga traded to a team or or you want a number that a guy has he played in the NHL, do I know? But I've never heard cases of it happen where a guy says, hey, man, I want that number and then the guy that there's been a few cases of guys going in places and go ahead. I can't think of my head, but a couple of guys have changed their numbers for an older guy coming in. Well, we talked about a few weeks back Seibu Salani wanted really Qleyle's number. Right. And we talk about the half them Randy Kyle flip out on even asking a number. Yeah, yeah. He offered of money for it, but in the MLB it's kind of like a known tradition. If you come in and you have seniority, the younger guys will just give you the number and then that older guys got to get him to watch like nice flight. Nothing Raleigh? Yeah. Would it give Goto you went to twenty-five from tomorrow. Any one? For what reason though? It was always Twenty-one that somebody else committed. They retiring twenty one who wears Twenty-one in Philly. I don't think anyone in Toronto change. Toronto. Toronto has like show many numbers. Somebody. What do I pack do? What number. Them much y'all. One question I had for ISIS, how excited review for the team, this young team coming up because when I was younger, I grew up forty minutes from buffalo and that's when they were making. Their runs is a fucking funds. Sports. They go fucking ape. There is a, yeah, that's the thing. It's like last year. The bills made it to the playoffs in the city. Almost blew up. There were there were going nuts over the fact that they made the playoffs. It was really cool and then just for us, it's it's good that the excitement's kind of getting back and it's good that we got razzmatazz and, and you know, things are looking positive again, obviously, you want that excitement going into your season. So it's just another opportunity and like you said, like, they really appreciate us. And for us not being successful last few years, you still get treated so well there which. Already. Amazing. Yeah, it's like the, they're, they're like, thanks so much for everything you do and you kind of thinking yourself fewer in some other markets, people wouldn't even talk to you, you know. So. Yeah, and good luck. Appreciate it. Heidi. How do you find the balance between bills mafia and being a member of patriots nation? Like how's that work? It's a little weird obviously because I'm like a die hard patriots fan and. I dunno, like I just I, if the patriots play the bills, I'm I'm rooting for the pats, but silently do it. And I root for the bills and every other game I love the bills. Obviously, like I had a conversation owner actually owns both teams and he was like, I really, oh, he's actually really appreciate the fact that you didn't switch over chose your loyalty to your. Yeah, I think people would hit you for doing that. Wait a minute. You from Boston switch over. I'm a big wall at the two thousand four World Series almost got a scrap. Chuck far. The items he had, he was all geared up and socks. Gaga's. He moved cinemas but he stayed a SOX fan and they're like, you know, they're, they're about to get swept, and they're like, fuck you. Check back the bus. He liked tried to go out and shoot based on the hat and shit Waltham. Sorry amount. The insane Louis one time when I got cut next lot, I was flying home and might be more or top. He's just a manning a monster to like he'll just, you could just l. his hand gives you high fiber. Students just a beast out there. Young, I replaced like the junior Bruins and he was one of the coaches as Matthew, assuming like ten years old. And I remember like he was was towards the end of his career, and then he retired in the next summer. We came back in the following tournament and he'll really looked like an absolute unit through event like three car accidents while the airbag utterly, but wait is Chuck your guys h, he's my. Through at the national team with us to you guys won the world then for sure are we are on the same world fan talking. Yeah, yeah. Team as it was Matthews Shaw on, she is Whitey since NC map, which which is nice because it's a young. You know, this next generation guys kind of hockey nerds different. But on all those guys, you just mentioned eight hockey nerds, fucking Renske slept through three of these interviews. I think he's what is it? Three times gonna come on every time. These fucking soya's sleep interviews at noon. This kid must. You must do our efforts to ease a handsome, fellow, big guy. He's a play or is he going to be a really good player that guy's got sick minutes? Yeah, does what called you to come on Michigan. Okay. So he went and joined the Lake Erie monsters, and we played them in the conference finals they wanted. I think they want it man. I'm like, who the fuck this guy never played before? Because he just joined team. He was playing like twenty five minutes in playoffs. He's like calmed down the ice and like I'm for checking them and giving me head fakes. You told your other eighteen. What the fuck joke about that. But no, he's got alligator bloodies big strong. He's got a good stick. He's fucking sick. Offense only narrating is like, was he eighteen came in the American League. He was the best defense in the playoffs. And I'm like, this is going to be the next Jay. Bouwmeester is gonna play twenty years in the National Hockey. Maybe even a little more offense skill though. So while he's gonna make Bank, he's probably gonna make one hundred sheets. And joined. One of the country comes, I play. I have to Walston golf club and this year the waitress these two wages. Like who's that guy you're talking about, like knowing like, oh my God, he plays hockey. I'm like, Christ skids. Got something going on here. I'd say Pani soup, but then I'm pretty sure a feminist would write. Another article would say that if it was a couple years, did you did you know that the terrorists got a phone call about two weeks ago and some some lady was writing an article about the fact eight years ago. I had these paintings shoot soup shirts from sauce hockey and wanted to write an article about a t shirt that was made eight fucking years ago. So I gave him out that girls like judo excess and I'm like, listen, there's nothing wrong with seeing a girls gotta lady Boehner over me. That's that's not sexist. That's just call it how it is. Because that whole term, it's like, when you know you come see on the ice and you know, no helmet warm ups and all the way to get excited Pani soup. With that? Not not one bit dude. We've run up on any any big stuff the summer vacations. Nothing is working. Adams v. On there. All right. He's a few days and let's track again. All right. Now again, are you. I love golf. You have the buck. I love golf, crazy, soul, fun. Yeah, just missile frustrating that I started playing years ago. So, I mean, it's kind of an easy transition from hockey artists for the world. Would you say hundred percent? There's nothing clo- and it's like the most simple. It's sitting there in front of you, but as we're watching Tiger Woods during this interview with four under thank God this point come out like the summer to maybe he'll win the Firestone Bridgestone invitational onto, you know, trips Coachella. No. Yeah. I mean, I was out in California a little early in the summer, and then I went, I went to a few. I went, I golf down and queue off a little nice. Yeah, it's nice down there. Was a Nashville weekend when over I've been talk it. So just here and they're getting away getting everyday now, this is August. I were recording. Yeah, four days a week. Thank you. That was my fourth state of the week, and I got two more so six this week and he skates voice tonight. Buffalo Sabres to try to keep your hands off yourself. Yeah, he's skating twice a day. Early guys getting ninety points this year, something we have anything else for these. These legends Saugus second, just in case anyway, we'll talk a second. Every day Friday. So I don't sometimes know while we every day is Friday, Jackie. Wait till you retirement. You're going to want Rupel Amari I have to my life rate. You'll watch Rupel the life. I want to ask Jack, what's going on with your bike, buddy, z, z gonna sign sooner. Yeah, I talked to him the other day. I mean, I don't know if. Reinhard? Yeah, rhino bike buddy. Yeah, he'll sign. I mean, they'll they'll figure it out. He's a, he's a really, really good player. We had an unbelievable second out believable. Yeah, unbelievable. I mean, his is only is only getting better too, and it was a little bit weird because in the beginning of the year, he kinda tried to out at center for a bit and he hadn't played center a few years. So. You know he was kind of trying to just to that. I think he struggled a little bit plane in the middle and we live together. I think he was a little frustrated playing in the middle. I thought he thought that he played better on the wing, and then you know soon as he started playing on the wing, I thought, I mean, he had a, I think he was a point per game last fifty games of the year. I mean, he played really well. So really somewhere like that? Yeah. Forty five and forty five. The old man played in the NF numbers. Yeah. I mean, he's a you talk Mr. Reiner and he's like a. Anatomy, smart hockey guy. I, I walked up all of us. Boys played like my first question was like, so like you play. Nine hundred more points than you admits played it. You could tell he went from kind of like a half smile till I go this fucking loser. I'm here watching this shitty movie made with my kid in it, and he's fucking ask me if I played. They want to go to this movie and this kids chirp Amee. Before we go, Noah gotta sleeve tattoo, it makes you even hotter. What would you would you get. As a sleeve. Right. That's okay. A half, the are you, are you gonna finish that. That just gets you like an RS. Oh, already show them your tramps. Then. Help Boston. Is that right there every kid I know has that on their quad with hockey sticks. Great. Rhineland Irishman on the heavy. Hockey sticks. You might have both every Boston kit has six Shamron name, usually miss other. You don't want, you know, keep the Endo store. Oh, yes. Tell this. So he this. I'm sure listeners know this, but these guys don't so him and Chris can Billy Ryan. I don't know if you all this is their best friends at Cushing academy. They're all they're going to get tattoos and Chris Bork goes, I, you know, bore with like they were getting like a, not a Celtic cross, something like that and keeps like I'll get the same thing and starts, then Billy Ryan. He's more stop. He's like, shut the fuck up. Dude. He was putting bore he had, yo-you are in Keith, theon those back. So because he just said the same thing so keep has this like tribal symbol through Bork and then like Yandell above it. It's disgusting. Terrible. Did he not cover it up? You like you did? They got a line through the first Reuters actually gotten since. Then I play with the money had that off a one, but I think he covered it up which you know job. Oh my God. Kiss? No, I didn't polio. Oh jurors. Harry quad. Tori crew. But these, I mean, that's. Eighty nine. Oh, oh my God. So worst one I ever seal dude. By the way Penn State. You didn't have any state and a did Lert setups limit statement fucking tiger or to Ryan mcdonagh him. Brian zone would Ryan as a Tasmanian devil with a football slowly. That one who does that looks like a demented action family, what it is, Eric nation do Nile come on this Ray guy. He's the worst I've ever seen above honest, help us respect hashing like, no, I don't know that three words, but it's worth like that just right above his horn-like. Unlike ni- would watt doggies, like, I know, I know. So we'll have Mon and discuss that terrible. Balls at one point I wanted to tat and matching my body with hats, dude, you gotta be ripped and tan with pats if I had TAT's no offense. All right. It would be a Scottish thing. I kinda regret my scarecrow on my arm. No has a jackal lantern that's like a stale, Jack lantern Vermont seventeen days after Halloween. I just get so Tanna summer basis. Let's all blah. That over a long period time? No, I got this. Probably back about ten years ago, would you do when you got that done or you watch your show or something, or just kick it on your home? Weeds rocket. I did it actually, uh, Steve. Ink NASA. Yeah. Yeah. Affection. He wants like off my attack to a Moslem goes to him. He's in Connecticut. It's an hour from now, let's go to the best guy. Yeah, so I'll reach ultimately. Yeah, I come down. He is the biggest beauty ever. He's any fly soy actually story. I wasn't even supposed to get this God. I was supposed to. We had a consultation and it's like top. What ideas and stuff and like say audible look at a car and then you leave with. He's like, actually the guy was supposed to do like back those. Let's just do it now and I wasn't ready to tattoo at all. And this is like four or five hours outside one. So I was like, all right. He just he just turned on the data medal blast and social, ripping, man. I was like, always listened to like terrorists you. The rest of it. What is what's the significance like, oh, actually, let's Saint Sebastien patients, athletes, dude, that's a prep school around here. That's where you went. What a sickle, all boys school. That's a fair tiger though where I went. So I don't know. Yup, it's a lie. It's a line. What's the difference? I mean, who wants the same like on the family? Aren't they. All right. We're going to end. Oh, wow, you you're gonna. Have you Monaghan whether handsome guys are going to have on that team in Calgary? All sweet. Sweet dreams. He's hottest shit shit who also and Donald is not exactly like the hottest. I'm picking it a captain, like assistant captain and stuff. We coaching Calgary. Carolina married is no wish you both went together. Are you boys with them niceness. Well, thank you very much guys onto another season. We'll see you next summer. Thank you very much to Jack Eichel. No Hannifin knows over in China right now. It should be fun. Jack, I goes getting ready in buffalo, but I think that the way we did, it's pretty interesting today. Boys we went over the Pacific Division for everyone who had homeless inning. Let us know if you like it the way we did it like that we can keep it more concise. We're not really exactly sure, but going over each each team figured we figured that's the best way to do it. So give us some feedback in terms of how you want us to kind of go over the the other three divisions in the league, and that's going to become an in the next three episodes. So. That was a fun time with on Jack Noah. Yeah, it was. Those guys is. What was one of my buddies said, oh, is is is no Hannifin quiet. And I, I said, I kind of phony was, but he's not. He was. It was great to hang out with good dude. Now that I've gotten to know him a lot of fun. But those guys growing up and I know there are one year apart, but just the fact that they're, they're both this this good and grew up playing against each other. It's pretty cool. Yeah, it was fun shooting the show and I'm going, what would you say pal? I was going to say both to very, very rich kids. Now. Yeah, I know. Carry Grenell your contract Grenell. I had a couple of partial Loria. It's like a day for them. Grenell adaptation for you after all the information about you drop and all that money on that tab, and then you talking about it on here. Obviously, your buddies probably listening to the show than anyone send you any van MOS after hearing the interview. Now. Nah, I've gotten some bodies have bought me beers at the bar and all like, give me the benefit of the doubt. Now what's that mean? So if I say I'm not paying this tab, like I'm not by my beers in art. Okay. Down for a world. Manning's a bomb on Cornell. You should have a punch card for each one of them and had their names on it. I like I would say what eight beers each, but I'll tell you I get. I've gotten a lot of DM from from listeners and stuff just like random people who are like, fuck your friend. If you ever wanna beer, you're ever in Edmonton a by a beer you're ever in Toronto pair of shoes. Yeah, Anna pair, although so also my Instagram follows shoutout I, I love the replies, but I'm still like figuring out the whole way to reply to each one. I wish I could do it online because I live on what do you mean? You're still figuring out how to reply? Well, because some replies, they go to one thing. It seems like an another replies, like once you reply to them, it goes to like another pile. I wish I story if you do a story or it's going to go to your DM and just do a picture, and someone writes in the picture, it'll be all under the comments. Yeah, no, I how to reply on the comments. But when when people just reply to other shit, basically. Ignoring you. I'm just I wish I could sit in the laptop and door, but I can't figure out how to fuck can reply on the laptop either, and I'm not an old fuddy duddy early like a compay wit. We're gonna start. I wanna start a an Instagram for Ryan Whitney, and we'll have great, Allie, run it and just post it all. Yeah, we talked about this. I don't know, do it has done it? Why are you private way you don't want? Do you want strangers, senior shit? You don't want them hitting on your lady or something. People are just just tap him. My old lady, I'm walking into this big ass house and there's some chiklis listener. Just I'm here and I'm like, what? The fuck happened. I should've never got public on. They saw my wife is you have to. There's a lot of weirdos out. They're busy and you got to be a little protective. I was always pretty proud. I dunno. I know. I think you weirdos I sometimes I'll get some people. I don't mind replying everyone. I got guys like the enemy and sometimes I'll read it might just put like a heart because all right, like six paragraphs. And then I get the message back, like all I know you think I'm a new year and you and I'm like, man, I get fucking hundreds of these things. Can I actually have a socialite like I do to to podcasts a week now I got to work with the coyotes. I'm trying to fuck and do work on the back end for the boys, and I gotta worry about fucking answer in the customer service for fitting chocolates, speak. Well, actually, I got a real good message a DM, whatever. Which did you get the picture? I sent to lack group text the member, the last episode you talked about Austin's unreal, unbelievable, like mood high sauce, pass against the Bruins. Yeah. It was to Hoffman. Exactly. So someone dug up the clip in it was a constant was passing Mike Kaufman. The guy whose whose wife while wife allegedly slandered his wife. So just kind of weird coincidence that you mentioned that clip and it happened to be the guy got traded as to wedding Friday night while my wife's friend, you look great. By the way I saw your news and how what did I look? I, I got so wrecked. Some kid came up to me at the bar and he's like, hey, loves pin chiklis and we're shooting the shit. Thanks. He's like, can I get you to video saying not a big deal to this? Someone out there has a video of Mejias loaded cross eyed, just slurring NADA. Big. Farm outage. It's like telling us what to do like take a picture with this. Do that. We don't mind I on, oh, I was Bockel. We, my wife and I got a hotel down the Cape. I woke up. I know, clue where I was. She's like, you told the same story. You told the story about your bus ride in the US HR those twenty hours log. You told it for the fifteenth time. I'm so sick and that story for fuck sakes why the whit drank add a. It's amazing how much that strangers that listen to the podcast think we're cool and all the people hanging out with like your fucking loser. I've heard. Know they come up and you know, you meet the person that likes listening to chick goods, and then they probably think I'm going to be funny. And then after five minutes, I just haven't said anything. I'm just on my phone. This kid socks. All right. Eli manning, nothing you fucking go catch, insecure, peace out. See about.