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The blaze radio network. On demand. Pat gray is here on the blaze radio network. Triple eight, nine hundred thirty three ninety three and it Pat unleashed on Twitter. Earn something interesting at the over the weekend from Kellyanne Conway that she too was a sexual assault survivor. She, she choked up as she made her admission in an emotional interview on CNN on Sunday morning. She was, of course defending Brad Kavanagh and and his nomination when she said she too was a victim. She said, I feel very empathetic, frankly, for victims of sexual assault, sexual harassment, rape. I'm a victim of sexual assault. I don't expect judge cabin our Jake tapper Jeff flake or anybody to be held responsible for that. You have to be responsible for your own conduct. She, she told tapper. And she went on to defend him saying he was no, no Bill Cosby. He's not drugging and raping women. But the FBI investigation when forward after we pretty much after a pretty much seemed like that was a moot point that they weren't going to do that all day Thursday and Friday. They just kept saying, no, we're not doing that. We've already done six FBI investigations of this guy, how many do you need? And so what happens caved the end of the day, the caved, just an order to FBI investigation of bread. Cavanaugh again, another one. So that's going on right now. And what will this? What will this proof? I don't know. I don't. I don't see how it can prove anything happened. Thirty six years ago. What are you gonna find out. You're gonna talk to some of the classmates, some of the classmates. The classmates have already, the people who are supposedly, they're the eye witnesses. Have all denied it already. So what new revelation are you gonna find out. It's badness and why are they doing another investigation? Because Jeff flake was yelled at it in the elevator heading down to the hearing a woman who who said she's of sexual assault survivor was yelling at the top of her lungs at him. Because if you if you confirm judge Cavanaugh, you just confirmed a rapist. No, that is absolutely not the case. You've confirmed a guy who everybody involved said he didn't do it. But I guess that person knew better than anybody else. And he caved into that. Wouldn't it be nice if these Republicans did a couple of things we've been yelling at them to do for ten or fifteen twenty years. How about doing something about the border, taking care of that for a change about getting rid of ObamaCare. How about permanent tax cuts. How about stopping funding of Planned Parenthood? We've been yelling about those things for years, and we've been ignored the whole time ignored one woman yelling at the top of our lungs as he's getting into an elevator, changed everything for him, and you know the background of that woman, correct. No, she's a sexual assault victim. Yeah. Apparently this is reported by the far right publication, New York Post that the two women who confronted flake inside the elevator, they express draw emotion, few media outlets dug into their political activism. One of the women Annamaria are Chia is an executive director of the center for popular democracy. She spent the previous week in Washington Gaijin protests against never know. She's a twenty three year old activists with the group. The center is a left-wing group heavily funded by George Soros is open society foundations. Stunning surprise there. There you go. So she's just an activist. She's just a Trump hating cabinet, hating activists who knows if she was even assaulted. I don't know. I don't know her. I don't know her background. Anybody can say anything, but I guess females can't lie is what we're told. We have to believe. Now there's no female who can say anything that is untrue. Pretty interesting in the scope of say, the Duke lacrosse situation when eat abroad, Rick, many other situations you could. You could name if you really sat down and put some thought to it. Women have been known to lie. I know it's insensitive to say that, but it is. It is in fact true. Sure. Yeah, it's it's pretty proven fact. So it's breaking news. No. Here was Kelly 's statement on CNN over the weekend when she surprised everybody with this admission, I feel very empathetic, frankly, for victims of sexual assault, sexual harassment, and rape that. I'm the victim of sexual assault. I don't expect judge Cavanaugh or Jake tapper, Jeff flake or anybody to be held responsible for that. You have to be responsible for your own conduct. I, this is not Bill Cosby. Those those comparisons on your network or disgrace and the anchor should of called him out. This is not even Bill Clinton. You have Senate Judiciary committee members refuse to remove Bill Clinton from office at the he received oral sex in the Oval Office and lied about it to a grand jury as president United States. The hypocrisy is ridiculous, and if not one Senate Judiciary committee member changes his or her vote because of what they learned from the FBI investigation that tells you all you need to know about with the president and judge cabinet has has said to shame. Let's just be honest with this. It's all partisan politics. It's exactly right. But it doesn't matter to anybody on the left. I doubt it even matters to anybody in the media. But they continue to dig into his past. Apparently the FBI interviewed some, some Yale University classmate of Kavanagh's went on the record yesterday, accusing him of mischaracterizing his alcohol consumption. Chad leading ten said in an interview with the New York Times that he saw cavenaugh, quote, staggering from alcohol consumption, unquote multiple times describing him as a belligerent and aggressive drunk. He went on to say, it is truth that is at stake. And I believe that the ability to speak the truth, even when it does not reflect well upon oneself is a paramount quality. We seek in our nation's most powerful judges. Okay. So this is just this is all about truth and Justice in the American way. And that's, that's all that's on this guy's mind. He's he's not a full of cavenaugh or Republicans or Trump. He's just looking for truth and it's his responsibility to get out and share the truth. I guess he said cavenaugh during the hearing downplayed the degree and frequency of his drinking. So I guess this guy was with him everywhere. Everywhere he went every time he was drinking. He told the times at the FBI has asked him to share his story at the bureau's Raleigh, North Carolina office. He'll be doing that today. It's unclear if his testimony will play a role in the week, long investigation. Several other classmates in recent days have also accused Cavanaugh apparently of misleading. Congress. Congress over his alcohol consumption. That doesn't mean anything though. That doesn't mean he sexually assaulted this woman. Who cares how much he drank in in school. Who cares? It's not an issue now if especially if he doesn't, if he doesn't have a drinking problem, if he does have a drinking problem that continues to this day. Let's look into that because I'm not sure we wanted alcoholic supreme court. Justice, maybe look into that. But if he was drinking lot in in college, so what I don't care. What does that have to do with anything that doesn't prove that he sexually assaulted Christine Ford. Or Christine blazey at the time. Cavanaugh told outside counsel, Rachel Mitchell during the hearing that he's never passed out from drinking. So I mean, good. The Democrats don't believe him on that either. For some reason, everybody who drinks has passed out for some reason. Everybody who's ever been drunk has had blackouts. I don't think that's I'm not an expert on drinking by any stretch of the imagination since I don't. But I'm pretty sure there are people who've had drinks socially who've even maybe gotten tipsy or drunk and still don't have blackouts. Aren't there Keith you ever had blackouts? Never seriously. You've never had a blackout. Never. Okay. So you can remember what you did under the influence of alcohol? Absolutely. In each and every case. Yeah. Yeah. So there's one person is he lying though maybe should have an FBI investigation into your background. What about when you were in Nebraska, you know, at the school then drink, okay. Don't forget you move to New York Knicks change. Is that so is that when you started when I started? Yeah, yeah. But I'm just like the, you know, because. No, no. I've never had a black. I've never forgotten anything you bread Kevin are apparently the only people who've ever consumed alcohol don't have blackouts. I'm not trying to sit on the supreme court either, so that's right. Yeah, he was my drinking buddy back in the day. Hung out together really a little older than you. That's kind of a weird coupling there. We had a lot in common, you know. No, just, you know, kept calendars. Okay. We we talk about calendars and stuff like that and calendars. Common that's calendar, strong bond, you know, unders and coming. You don't. You don't break the bond of calendar keeping. You just don't break that. That's important, and it is quite possible to drink an excess in not. I don't even get hangovers. So I mean, really not going to black blackout just 'cause you drink all the time. Right? Exactly. So whatever he said he said during the hearing, you know, I like beer. I like beer then and you know what? I still like beer now and then he asked Sheldon Whitehouse, do you like beer? What do you like to drink? And then they got all pissed off. I'm not the war to try to become a supreme court Justice here. Okay, sh my problem with beer Senator speaking for myself, judge Keith Mallon. I is that I don't. I don't have to p all the time. So that's why go stuff like vodka because then shit, you're sharing that was. You're sure. Much. Yeah, that's great. I mean, I didn't talk about farts. I mean, that's that's low for a Senate committee about which he did talk about swim through high school yearbook and the we're boo for whatever was in there. What does this mean this booth that that means part Senator you wanna talk about farts. It's just shows you the the degree to which we've sunk air. It's really it's sad and it's pathetic, triple eight, nine hundred thirty three ninety. Three. 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At gray unleashed returns after this on the blaze radio network. At great. Is here. Welcome to it. Thanks for being with us triple eight, nine hundred thirty three ninety three. Love the photo on the front page of the drudge report, which is from the fulsome street, fair. You know, that's the big. Bondage. Thing that they do in bondage. And where is it LGBTQ thing in San Francisco? They do every year. Yeah. The photograph is from the Folsom street fair, and it's of a guy in leather with a girl standing next to him in leather, and he's holding a leash a dog collar leash around her neck. Fascinating that you know, that's the image receiving from that place. But, hey, you know. We're all we're all on high alert. We're not doing anything offensive in the metoo movement. Don't ask the fulsome street fair though to do anything differently. Actually they're, they're, I guess they're stressing consent this year. Wait a minute consent. Wait a minute. That's like a new thing for them. Yes. Oh, now, said of the person with a dog collar, right. Well, and I mean, they're they're point is just because you got a guy wearing atlas pants. That doesn't mean. Doesn't mean shouldn't fully respect. Everything is doing. Then everybody in the street. Fair. It's just amazing that they talk about, you know, gear doesn't mean consent and obviously doesn't hold on what you're wearing doesn't mean consent and enthusiastic. Yes means consent according to the president of the full fulsome street events board. That's that'd be chilly right there. Well, cheeks, probably in San Francisco because they actually have fall. Unlike us here right there, the bay. It's all kind of cool. And yeah, very breezy. So they're trying to get that message to the to the participants around the thirteen block fair, which featured bondage exhibits people pulling their collared partners on leashes and lots of bodies. Glad leather or nothing at all. Actually a lot of naked people running around that doesn't. It doesn't mean they're looking for anything special course just naked in public in public. That doesn't mean they want their photograph taken either. Please respect their pride. Pissy. Oh, no, yeah. But they're, yeah, public, right. But that doesn't mean you can take pictures of them just because they're naked in public, but or just because they're wearing their assets pants. Don't think that you can go ahead and take a photo of that. You'd better get their permission before you start snapping pictures of them with your iphones. This is what a world world, right? What a war old we live in just it's unbelievable. Carol in West Virginia, you're on the blaze. I'm so held of the judge the way he started out his rebuttal basically give the country a judge's perspective of what he thinks going on, then they supposedly court and also when Senator was questioning him on farting. I would love to have an say, well, Senator would you like to go into a wet fart wasn't a gripe far, you know, hey, you wanna go down this road. Let's go. You did cut a challenge him that way. Kind of actually did. He didn't get quite as graphic, but he did tell him, I'm willing to go there if you want. Let's let's go ahead and talk about farts. They've done ruined big wise. I mean, even Buffy FBI says, this guy's bly is going to be scoring for the rest of his. Yeah, it's a, it's a real shame for she to Carol. Thanks, it's it's a travesty to travel mockery, so we can. We start the travel mockery, collect. It's it's pathetic what they've done to this guy, and I think they know it and they don't care the, the Democrats don't care what they've done to him. And then for Jeff flake just cave and he's, he says, he, he's the one who insisted that they stop down the process and do the FBI investigation. And the rest of them came to his desire there. It was asked last night on sixty minutes. Do we have this wonderful, you have this. We actually do some of these. In fact, we got twelve as and flake. He was coons was on with Jeff flake. Last night. Coons is democrat from Delaware, Jeff. Flake obviously a Republican, and this is a fascinating. This is a fascinating statement from Jeff flake when he was asked about if you would have done this if you weren't running for election, if you were running for election, here's what happened on six cannot tell you how grateful I am. Jeff's the hero here. He's the first Hoon's but wanted a moment just to just to, you know, go over what are the legitimate. Concerns and grievances Republicans on the committee about the process and the complaints and how we got here. Let's Chris coons on Jeff flake being the real hero is he is Jeff flake. A hero come on. He was asked about whether or not he would. He would have made this decision if he were still running for office. Could you have done this if you were running? No, not a chat, not a chance. No, because politics has become too sharp too partisan. There's no value Europe across the aisle. There's no currency for that anymore. There's no incentive. Is that because the politics has has become too sharp to device it, or is that because you're a cisa fide coward. And you're too concerned about whether or not you're gonna win the next election. You're not concerned enough about doing the right thing. And of course he's a hero now because he stopped the whole process and ordered another f. b. i. investigation of bread cavenaugh and it's not going to be a week of them just sitting around doing nothing waiting for the results of the FBI investigation. It's going to be a week of, let's see if we can get the stick in the media to personality. Let's see how we can mold him in the eyes of the undecideds out there. They're going to vilify him and it's going to get more and more absurd as the week goes along and they've already, they've already done it. They're making him look like an alcoholic when he was in school and you know, who knows they could. They could carry that through to today we don't. We don't even know that he's not an alcoholic to this day. They're already making him look like, you know, he's a drunkard. It's amazing. Do you think when push comes to shove, he's going to be confirmed Pekkari. I don't know. I don't know that you know. I don't know that I necessarily want him to be. I think it would be a fantastic situation for Trump to say, okay, this guy wasn't to your liking. You don't wanna man. Here's Amy, Coney Barrett. Go ahead and see if you can drag her through the mud. She's a woman by the way. I don't know if you're aware of that and respond to treat women differently yet in the same. I guess. Isn't that? Isn't that a fascinating aspect of this too? Women don't lie, and we must believe all women, but women are the same as men in every other respect, accept the fact that they don't lie. Other than that they could do everything exactly the same as men and they should perform the exact same function as men. The only difference between men and women women don't lie. That's the only difference right now. All right. In here was the Yale classmate talking about cavenaugh that Brett lied about his drinking habits area? Brad, since the very beginning of freshman year, he was always one of the beer-drinking boys with him. I liked beer. There's no problem with drinking bearing college. The problem is lying about it. He didn't heavily was a partier. He liked to beer bonds. He played drinking games. He, he was a sloppy drunk. He was more interested in impressing the boys than he wasn't impressing the girls. I never saw him be sexually aggressive, but he definitely was sloppy drunk. I don't think many of his answers credible. I don't. I really question any Senator that believes the Ralph club had something to do with his known weak stomach. I knew of no weak stomach. That's not what Ralph ING means to any college kid. Yes, usually means that you just throw up from drinking too much. In general? Exactly. There were a lot of things that he explained in a way that didn't meet with a lot of people's expectations. Let me ask you something though. If he is lying about how much he liked drinking and what they're not, he got drunk a lot. If he is not telling the truth about that, you think that that is disqualified for him in this nomination. Absolutely. That's perjury. He was under oath for, gosh, sakes my gosh. I'm sure she felt the same way about Bill Clinton back in the nineties when he lied under oath. And I'm sure she thought that disqualified him from being president of the United States because I'm sure she's completely consistent in all of her principles values. Wow. What if he asked? Oh, this is triple eight. Nine hundred thirty three ninety three four pack. Released it up. Yup, Pat gray, the blaze radio network. Pat gray returns on the blaze radio network, triple eight, nine hundred thirty three ninety three and Pat unleashed on Twitter where millennial falcon tweets mind you. This will be the seventh official FBI investigation of cavenaugh even Jeffey knows. That's a lot. I'm not sure about that. You think he does. You knows eighteen is a lot. Are we talking about investigations for Jeffey or for Brett Kevin? There's not enough investigation Jeffey. They'll be something else to uncover unleashed Jekyll, Andrew, Keith, never drank in Nebraska flag on the play. There is literally nothing else to do in this state. Okay. Anything else to do in a rescue. To football games, right. I would've football game the way how the weekend go for the corn huskers by the way. Why don't you shut up. The same way it went for my team actually is the problem. So yeah, that's sucked the weekend sucker did, but at least your Packers one. Whereas the huskers and the falcons both lost. I will say this though the Packers victory does not make up for BYU loss, but it's good. I'll I'll take it. I'll certainly take, hey, the baseball playoffs start this week. You're going to root for the Braves with me. No, of course. Astros fans, you know. Okay. But what if the American League, if you're nationally team, we'll be the Braves. Yes, I don't care. How about the Cup. I don't even care brewers. Don't care. Dodgers don't care. No brain, sir. Yes, I don't care from Dmitry. Levitzky win, commend, start their own movement for every time they've been falsely blamed for something that's a man. No kidding. That is something that should happen. TJ topping, okay, I can fix a cabinet situation, sit Jeffey next to him and by comparison, nobody will have any issues with Cavanaugh. Right. And for Mandy, my Monday morning frustration is completely gone after hearing Pat using the term atlas pants. The first half. Yep. I thought that was a great comparison to you. Being bothered by me talking about how drink too much beer makes a lot, you know, mix in the word that's true atlas. Yeah. Well, you just did so thank you. Could being worse than you? Sorry, triple eight. Nine hundred thirty three ninety three Victoria in Utah. You're on the blaze. Right. Elena Kagan and apparently in college she likes to get drunk on vodka and tone. It's did we hear that during the the hearing or how do you know if any other dredges ever guard drums. Mccaig grown and all right. Point I have is, can any Senator call for nasty. I s Gatien at anytime. However it doesn't have to be accepted. You know, it's kind of up to the the call. It's up to the chairman of the committee. It's up to the to Chuck Grassley. He doesn't have to cave in neither did the president, but they will did they both said, okay, but I think I think it, you know, the the fervor had gotten to the point where if this guy is confirmed without yet another stinking FBI investigation, we're never going to hear the end of it and it's always going to be considered illegitimate and the metoo movement would be all over it. And so I think they just decided what give it to them, do it what? Okay, we'll wait a week. We'll put some parameters on it. You can't go beyond a week. We're going to get it all done. And then damn it. We're gonna vote. We're going to k. So let's hope the stick to that because it wouldn't surprise me at all to see delayed again after this week. I wouldn't be surprised all if something else delays it. Yep. And to the point the caller made about Elena Kagan. Yeah, on election night nineteen eighty. Wow. She was the young writer for the daily print stone, and she was so depressed on election night when Reagan one that she drowned, her sorrows. No, yeah. Vodka tonic Ono. She actually drank, right. Wow. There's another supreme. She's on the supreme court right now. I know. Right. Is it too late now? Can we employ we could impeach her. We have a sip of. Is that something we could do? Can we get on this? Seems like it. I mean, we've got Republican, we at least get an FBI investigation into this her other drinking. How was your remaining few months of power used these waning moments? Get Elena Kagan off the supreme court because she had a drink before come on. No. Republicans won't do that if it were Democrats and she was a Republican or she was considered a conservative judge, they'd be doing that already, Anthony and Oklahoma, you're on the blaze. Hey, Pat saying, I'm looking at this a little bit differently. I think this, this FBI investigation isn't the worst thing. If if judge Kavanagh's name is clear quickly and we know that democrat senators are still not going to vote for his confirmation. What what I think may have is just before the midterm elections, any independence and maybe even moderate Democrats were paying attention are going to recognize that that the democrat senators work fact looking for truth, they were looking to block confirmation and create a sideshow over here. And so there's Blue Wave that we've been told to be heads up for may slip the other direction, or at least maybe I'm being a little optimistic but, but that to me, could could potentially be great for Republicans in this mid-term that they're not looking so good in right now. I hope I hope. Have a lot of confidence that that's going to be the case. Thanks for the call Anthony, but it would be that would be nice if it backfires on these Democrats to the extent where Republicans actually keep the house and the Senate that would have been worth it. Yeah, yeah. And that might happen might I? I know that there was a there was an op-ed recently that ran, I forget where it was. I don't know. I wanna say Virginia, but that's probably not right of a democrat who absolutely voice Trump button has aboard the way these this process has gone in the Senate even more that voting Republican in the fall, really and for Trump and twenty twenty. Now anybody could have written this. But this guy says, I'm a Hispanic democrat, vote democrat, I can't stand. I don't think that Trump is morally fit to be president. He says, but, but based on the way, this is turned into a political witch hunt and because from his home country, he says, this is just like back home where we're just wide eyed. Power seekers from. In the stack from in the stack country. Okay. I can't recall the top of my head, but anyhow, he makes the point that that he's going to vote for Republicans this time. Yup, because of because last week. All right. Over the weekend. I did. They do the, I think the Beto. Willie Nelson concert happened. Texas governor, Greg Abbott today described. The Aurora situation as cult, like in the way that he's garnered attention in his bid. He's been a cult like very popular figure the way that he's run the campaign, but you don't vote on cult. You don't vote on personality. When you get to the US Senate, you vote on the issues. He was critical of O'Rourke. Liberal policy views saying, Texas voters won't approve of George Soros policies such as higher taxes. Texans are hostile to any candidate who's talking about raising their taxes, Texas, or hostile to anybody. Talking about big government programs running their lives. Abbott, like in this year's US Senate race to his own campaign for years ago, against windy Davis, who also had national attention because she was the abortion, Barbie. If you remember correctly. That was an amazing race as well and Abbott crusher in the end, which was nice. And hopefully that'll happen with Ted Cruz and Beto Aurora Aurora has gained significant traction though. As he attempts to defeat cruise, the democrat has garnered national attention for his speeches and for his fundraising halls and the national GOP mobilizing now for Senator Cruz, which is interesting because the establishment Republicans don't even like Senator Cruz because he's too moderate. He's too conservative for them there to moderate and they can't. They can't stand. They can't stand conservatives made even more than they can't stand Democrats. Maybe. However, I think they can't stand the thought that all my gosh, we might actually lose the Senate that's starting to occur that support Ted Cruz. If it means we still get to keep our committee chairmanships, etc. Yes, yes, that's what's. That's what's attracting them to do some. Thing about this race. Meanwhile, they debated not last Friday, but the one before and it was interesting after after the debate, the Washington Post did a follow up and they fact checked some of Beddoes claims. One of the big claims was, you know he had that drunk driving conviction and he claimed that, yes, it was while it was terrible decision to drink and drive. I did do that. I did not try to flee the accident. Well, the Washington Post fact check him on that and gave him four Pinocchio 's. Whoa. The ultra conservative Washington Post code raido Aurore Aligarh right. Isn't that amazing? So, yeah, he's denied forever that he tried to flee the scene, but there's a bunch of witnesses that contradict that and the even the Washington Post said, yeah. Now, the evidence is that he did try to flee the scene. Now he said, mid some past brushes with the law, including of course the DWI in one thousand nine hundred eighty eight. It was in the early morning hours after his twenty six birthday. What he had not previously shared was that he had caused an accident and tried to leave the scene as indicated in the police reports. And the police reports were obtained by those very conservative newspapers, the Houston chronicle and San Antonio Express News. So during the debate Aurore flat out denied, he tried to leave the scene. I did not try to leave the scene of the accident. He said, though driving drunk, which I did is a terrible mistake for which is no excuse or justification or defence, and I will not try to provide one. So they poked into all of this said, no, he actually did try to leave the scene. Cruise is try to take the high road on this. He said he won't get into aerobics personal life. Instead, he moved onto the discussion of his sponsorship of the two thousand nine resolution to debate legalization of narcotics, but I am going to get into Beddoes personal life. At about three o'clock in the morning on September twenty seven nineteen ninety eight. A witness told police according to the police report, the arrest report. He saw a Volvo driving at a high rate of speed in a seventy five mile per hour zone along itin in Anthony, Texas, which is suburban. El Paso. The witness told the officer that the Volvo driven by a Rourke had passed him just before it lost control and struck at truck traveling the same direction, cheese men after hitting the trucks, Volvo careened across the center median before it came to a halt facing oncoming traffic. People could have been killed in this incident. Oral, then reportedly according to witnesses, tried to leave the scene but was stopped by the witness who turned on his overhead lights to try to stop him and warn oncoming traffic. The officer reported that or Rourke had glossy is in breath, smell devel-, call beverage than ask the defendant to step out of the vehicle doing. So the defendant almost fell to the floor. Our, I guess it would have been the ground in this particular case. I don't know. I mean, he was drunk driving. He could've ended up inside a building. There was a Florida step out of his car onto that. The Democrats are okay. Okay. We all this guy being a drunk driver, right? Causing a wreck scene. He right to be a Senator, but oh my gosh, if you puked or blackout, because you drink during college? No way in hell. Are you allowed on the supreme court? Got it. Thanks, appreciate it. Isn't that interesting. Doesn't seem consistent. Is it considered a criminal offence for how he plays guitar? Because that is pretty terrible to the point where I want. What what do you say about this. So good. I mean, virtuoso is the only word that really comes to mind their virtuoso only word. You're thinking. I don't know is that Eddie van Halen? Right? Is Jimi Hendrix. Maybe why Jimmy paced change Jimmy page here from Jimmy page later in this broadcast, if I'm not it's possible. Yeah, a little teaser. All something coming up on Led Zeppelin. 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Gosh, so good. Sounds over. We can only hope that it would. And one of these times it's going to end they'll be playing this by themselves. So we hope that's in November, man. Listen to genius involved here. It was suggested that you know, maybe not. Maybe it's not Clapton or Jimmy page. Maybe it's more Carlos said tad alike because ES Beto O'Rourke. Oh yes. The does the music on battle performances. And so, yeah, I mean, that's the. Jose Feliciano maybe tip these blind and of course Beto isn't, but but you're just talking about virtual so guitarists and so. Hard to match this. People have said that they want this for a ringtone people on Twitter, asking for as ring. How do we pull that off? I don't know. I guess we could have, you know you could start recording and then we could play it in the nut, say anything for ten seconds or so tough off that you could pull it off. Get your phone ready? It's your iphone ready. Just what hit the record hit the record. Should we wait for them to download an app that them to reap the. Them to reap the podcast audio or broadcast. How's that work? I, I mean. Times when you could not hold up to the should be a lot easier than older times. Okay. So also here we go in ten seconds night. Three seconds, two one. Okay. That's all the genius get. The drums you got to get to the germ. Oh, yeah. The whole really? Yeah. Okay. Chance number two. Here it is. Those tight. Okay. So here it is. Okay. If you haven't answered your phone by, then you're not answering. Let good. Avoid smell dumpling. Yup, it's over if you haven't if you haven't stopped the madness that time, then I can't help you. And so this will this segment here in case you missed it there in real time. Surely the show today. If you go to soundcloud, look, Pat gray unleashed. You'll find a bunch of short clip to the shoting share with your friends, and this will be one of them and you can. You can extrapolate from that or maybe I will have the guys extrapolate just that part for the for your very own better. Ringtone we can't make it an easy. No, yeah. Oh, yeah. Okay. All right. So look for that later on this afternoon triple eight, nine hundred thirty three ninety three now US court of appeals Friday ordered a new trial in the lawsuit, accusing Led Zeppelin of copying that really obscure nineteen sixties instrumental. For the intro to their classic stairway to heaven. Remember we talked about this last year time and somehow Led Zeppelin one. I don't. I mean, it was a seems like a miracle because these two songs sound a lot alike. Federal court jury in Los Angeles. Wow. Was it two years ago found Led Zeppelin did not steal the famous riff from the song tourists by the band spirit. I don't think that was long ago, maybe the court then, but they didn't even have a conclusion until about a year ago. Right? Jury found steroid. I have an an Taurus hor not substantially similar. That's incredible since I don't know. They are totally, but apparently US district judge. Gary clousre Clough's ner failed to advise jurors that while individual elements of a song such as its notes or scale may not qualify for copyright protection. A combination of those elements may if it's sufficiently original, he also wrongly told jurors, the copyright does not protect chromatic scales are Geos or short sequences of three notes, and that was not correct. If you remember, here's here's a Taurus by spirit. And then immediately after we'll, we'll show you store to have this is. Pretty close. Airy. Wow. Okay. That's pretty close. Yes. There's the two together. I think somebody's owed some money. Uh-huh. I don't know if the guys in spirit are still alive still around, or you know, maybe it's their families that are looking for compensation here seems I is it just us or do they not deserve, you know, several million dollars. Absolutely. And what's next Jimmy page going to rip off Beddoe Aurora. You don't stop it. Now nip this in the bud, he's not good enough to do. He's not good enough. Got to be. Oh, if only right. If only they ended the show. I mean, if the first rap, let's just no. I mean seriously one of the worst musical elements I've ever heard broadcast lit playthrough seriously, killing me over here and don't forget your very own Beto O'Rourke good tar solo ringtone available and just a couple of hours at soundcloud dot com. Look for Pat gray unleashed. Very exciting, triple eight, nine hundred thirty. Three Ninety-three more coming up. Pat gray unleashed on the blaze radio network. Aunt grade is here on the blaze radio network. Triple eight, nine hundred thirty three ninety three and Pat unleashed speaking of music as we just were with the stairway to heaven spirit, Taurus thing. Kind of an interesting story about Paul McCartney. He can't read or write music. Whoa. What the guys written thousands of he's written symphonies? How how is that possible? He said, I think if you care about what you're doing, if you really want to get it right, then you've got to deal with insecurities, you told sixty minutes, it's what makes it right in a wide ranging interview. He admitted a few things he doesn't know how to read or write music. Surprisingly, none of the Beatles. Did. Four guys who are responsible for some of the most popular music ever written, don't know how to read or write music. How do you write songs if you can't, if you can't write music out? Don't know. That's really interesting. That is plus he also revealed. He doesn't take selfies with people. So if you come up to him on the street and you wanna take a selfie, he won't do that, but he will talk to you check this. So he must have a lot of conversations because I'm sure people approach him for that all the time. So you are talking about McCartney there. Google news search here in this story just posted an hour ago and the Toronto Star, whatever. Anyway, there was a couple in Winnipeg Canada. Getting wedding pictures made an park, and he was reading by on a bike riding by and they said, hey, would you mind photo bombing, our wedding? And so so he apparently doesn't mind photo bombing, and this is not a selfie, but. Couple, we'll try to get the picture up ASEP here. I sit down the hall. That's that's cool. Yeah, so did it. Yeah. So they're getting their wedding pictures made in a park in Winnipeg and Cardi rights by and poses with doing they're riding a bike, these in Winnipeg, Canada. Yeah. I mean, look, he's Paul McCartney. I think he's on tour up in Canada right now, but he doesn't have security or anything. Just riding around parked Paul McCartney bike. Interesting. Very interesting. Ivan. Sorry. I mean that word I can never say interesting. I haven't flown if the rest of my life. Thank you, Pat. Gray. McCartney said that his friendship with Lennon was complex songwriting partner since they were teenagers. They collaborated in writing some of the most popular songs and music. Yeah. And how did they get them down on paper? You wonder? So if you can't write music, what do you put down on paper? But a sense of competition also pushed them to create even more even though Lennon only complemented McCartney once on his music. He said, the Bill Owens who produced the segment McCartney said the relationship was so complicated. They needed each other so much. I think Paul McCartney is the only person who could tell John Lennon no, or that doesn't work. Lennon was also able to tell McCartney what his lyrics needed tweaking. When McCartney original originally wrote. I saw her standing there. The original opening lines were she was just seventeen. She'd never been beauty Queen, but Lenin didn't like that. So let's change it. I don't know what they change it to. She was seventeen. You know what I mean? It's you know what I mean? Instead of she'd never been a beauty Queen dacha by the way, there's that picture in Winnipeg there of poma Carney hanging out there. Anyone wants to see it on the blaze TV by this, hey, happy wedding day. Chris cruise, Paul McCartney his wedding Diddy. No, no, you didn't. There you go seventy six years old now seventy six. It's amazing. Riding bikes in Winnipeg, Canada, Bill in Kansas. You're on the blaze. Quick question Baidoa work is his name to appear on the ballot as beta or or his full name a good way to take advantage of Hispanic. Do we know the answer to that? I'm pretty sure it will say Robert Beto Aurore because it seems not. It's new. I know in the past I've seen like Joe Boba Smith on my ballot here in Texas, so you can put something in the middle there. It's ridiculous. Yeah. So apparently both Bill appreciate the call. As long as they know as long as they know, he's not. It's spent care. Yeah, most people that are signing up to vote for him, they're not gonna know. Joe in Pennsylvania. Hi, you're on the blaze, hey, hey piece keys. You might want to look this up. It's guitar player from see June twenty first two thousand sixteen and the captured is did this three hundred fifty seven year old song influence stairway to heaven? This article claims that the song is actually was written by an Italian composer which I cannot pronounce. It would have to be something like Pat gray, pronounce these names, but it was composed six fifty nine and that's how they're attorneys are trying to beat or did be the lawsuit. Okay. They're saying that this music has always been out there, but three hundred fifty seven years old. Isn't it? Like after twenty five years becomes public domain. I don't think it's twenty five years, but yeah, might be might be fifty or seventy five or something, but I know like happy birthday just kind of winds up in the public domain. Yeah. Giovanni, Battista Granada. Thanks, Joe shit. That's that's Italian composer. I think we talked about that at the time familiar. Yeah, I'd forgot about it, but yeah, could three hundred fifty year old composition bring it into the stairway to heaven plagiarism trial. And I think the answer is, yes. It did attorneys for Jimmy page and Robert plant have argued that the distinctive opening guitar passage of stairway to heaven uses a common progression that's been around for hundreds of years. In fact, composition by Italian composer. Giovanni Batista Granada uses this same progression and nearly the same melody heard instead stairway to heaven. We gotta find that the work. So not d. Totta e v Alina the whole Nin sue. Boscell continue. Oh way too long. Can't that just by the time you get done saying that you're going to be at the end of the song. So back in sixteen fifty nine, they had eight tracks. They have back then the real real. I think it was real real. Yeah. Yeah, we'll try to find the passage occurs at the thirty two second Mark in the. Oh, I think we do have a, oh, the origin of steroid heaven. Oh, as Ridgely I see. Not. They took it all this video contains content. Plunger country. That's sucks. Okay. I'll find it come. You can't have a copy right from a song from sixteen fifty. Nine. Can you that's possible say you're going to say is that at one point, Michael Jackson had control of Beatles tunes or something ridiculous. It was kind of a bone of contention too. Rick in California, you're on the blaze high. Hey, Rick, and my love you guys like you just called. I wanted to hop back about Mr. flake and I, I have a question, are Stephen, the men changes his vote because he meet some protesters at the bottom of elevator. And then in the interview, you see last night it's as if Koons is talking through what to say. I'm just wondering if he's ever had his own original pot or, or I mean, you look at the guy every time you see him. He looks like he's about to cry. But he may be you guys are great and keep it up. I just wanna throw my pain out there, see what you guys talk. Thanks, appreciate it. Yet. Jeff flake has been a massive disappointment for a long time now and this just kind of finishes that off. This is sort of the crescendo to see him on. Yes. And you know, 'cause he was at one time right when he got into office a pretty conservative legislator and that change pretty quickly because he got co opted by the establishment Republicans and. Just became like John McCain Jr. from then on. Although it's too soon, probably say that what John McCain. Let's see what you did that test, ripping John McCain, if you're comparing him to Jeff foot. Well, I guess if you compare, that's probably by the way, if you check your inbox there and just click on that link, it should open up if your music boxes ready there for talion composer version really from sixteen fifty, nine stairway to heaven, apparently done long, long long ago. So Jimmy page, ripping off everybody living in dead apparently. So he has no qualms that just doesn't get well. You know, it's not like this is the only song he's accused of stealing. He's been accused multiple times and almost every time you're like, Yep, kinda see that one do. Thanks still. He's still on a love, I think was one of them. I've not mistake might be several there, but I don't know how they include page in their page. Just wrote the lyrics and the lyrics are amazingly unique to stairway to heaven. So it was it was page that wrote the music for the song. What is what is Jimmy page? I mean, plant have to do with that plant wrote to the music. I mean, the lyrics to the music. Well, I think what happens is I think Robert plant is capitalizing off of his lyrics being a part of a tune that includes that quote, rip-off is the thing if you just opened that up. So have you heard this yet? I have there and take a listen. Three should open up right to three three. This was written by some Italian guy. Sixteen fifteen sixteen fifty nine. Let's if this sounds like stairway to heaven. Oh, let's by Led Zeppelin. Thirty three second one. Thirty seconds. Lower sixteen now let him build just opened up right to it because I sent a copy. Yeah, that didn't really work. So far we're not be second. We're here. We right here stand by for all right. Here we go and go. Oh my gosh. This is on the radio. That is definitely sixteen fifty. Nine. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Marconi's tell people knew about it. Top forty hit back in the sixteen hundreds. In the weekly top forty, you know, they use that these to fire them up when they were headed to the crusades. Yeah, yeah. Music before Walkmans on and got fired up when they went into Jerusalem. To that. That's so fascinating. Yeah, isn't it. Sixteen fifty nine and that did sound like stairway to heaven. So you're right. That's what I forgot. I had forgotten. That's what they used as a defense is that you know this descending scale has been around for three hundred and fifty years. So it wasn't maybe spirit, copy that guy, right, right. Triple eight, nine hundred thirty three ninety. Three more Pat gray unleashed coming up. We're joined by Jeffey for the crusades. A lot of people used to use sticks and twigs and rocks and all kinds of things to clean out there. Here's filthy. That can't be good able to hear the original stairway to heaven. Yeah, sure. What that was called back in six. Tara a violin. Cone il-soon bustle. By the time they were done saying. That's why that's why logger. They wished they wish back. The cruise is that they had something like wax Rx system. I'll tell you why. While it's cutting edge ear cleaning system. Okay. That's why God, that's why plus. All right. Internet internet. And so they were able to go to use wax Rx dot com. Just shift right to their to their door rock house or grass ship to them. Sometimes it was just dumped in the middle of the street. Do that today. They don't have to worry about a street now we're well. I mean it was like a growed. Yeah. And you know they didn't even know about. Special codes to type into have it shipped to the rock home for free. I know right people. What I know economical like you go to use wax Rx dot com. Get the cutting edge ear cleaning system and have it shipped right to your house for free outdoor offer radio. They don't put in the middle of the street. You don't have to go retrieve with in the traffic. That's good because in the old days, even even after the crusades and they used to just throw it to the street. Yeah, just drive by and care. Haas it off. Yeah, they don't do that. You know, we should bring that right people's door. They'd probably like that better. It's a good concept, right? It's a good due to good use wax Rx dot com or reusable ear wash system today, offer code radio ships. Right to your house for free. Yes. Free to your front door. Use wax Rx dot com. You're listening to Pat gray on the blaze radio network. Pat gray returns. Triple eight, nine hundred thirty three ninety three. Whose computer bowl is this? This is listener. Nate Miller beautiful. Yeah, it's really, really puts a bunch of stuff in there. I'll tweet this out after we get done talking about it relocated here, but. But to computer poll college football. And number one, he's got Notre Dame, which is interesting. They move up four to number one, followed by LSU. Okay. Then Alabama, Georgia, then Clemson three, the top four. I don't think there's any way Alabama or doesn't crush Notre Dame. I would agree with that anyway, either Georgia, Clemson pizza, Notre Dame all Georgia beats Notre Dame to. Yeah, I'm not sure about Clemson. Maybe maybe Clemson too, but I'm just I'm looking through his pull here. Let's see. We've got Boise state who while you has coming up at a couple of weeks there number thirteen. Well. UCF is unbeaten is got them at twenty two Wisconsin at twenty four. We're looking down here. It was thirty. Five is Missouri Tigers this weekend. I read this schedule wrong. Yeah, I was like watching TV early and I see South Carolina place could tuck you late and I'm like, wait what they're supposed to be playing zuri like right now, what's going up? Yeah. Till next week I looked at this probably at least it does. That was never looked at just looked at the order of the day, the dates, right. What what's the price? You got something wrong who'd have thought. See the game is still takes place, just kind of mistaken on the date. Right. You read through the important ones. We. Fifty. I think we're gonna they from twenty five to fifty. Okay, so there we go. So there's after getting crushed by Washington, dude, terrible, terrible, terrible, freaking game. The the play calling was probably worse than anything I've ever seen. How do you on third and twelve run it up the middle. Oh, they have zero no-confidence at all. He will. He was eighteen of twenty one for one hundred sixty arts. Throw the ball, throw the frequent running game. No, where they just running it up the middle. I know we all to keep the defense at bay once in a while when it's not working, stop beating the dead horse, especially especially with three times. Yeah, you're losing by fourteen or twenty one and you're running up the middle in the fourth quarter. I just I. Amazes me that though, that those types of games show the teams that have not any sense of urgency. Yes, should be running that we're not huddling. We're running. We're, you know what's interesting about the sense of urgency. The players didn't seem to have any sense of urgency, the whole gain, right? I mean, against Wisconsin, they were on fire against Washington. They were dead. I don't know what. How do you not get up for that guy? Don't know. That's coaching that it's really bad coaching is really bad, so Missouri thirty five BYU's fifty. So that's paid three. I think you've done. We're still looking for the university of Nebraska here. Page five goes all the way from Louisville at two and three at number ninety six all the way down to San Jose State at one twenty three page six is where we find the Nebraska Cornhuskers see there's Oregon state won twenty four can't state Kent. Twenty five and then the bresca one hundred and twenty six. The rescue is blow the university that had four dead. Did you. Has the business the way there has Nebraska. What a game this year? No, no. They're all in and five. You've got the lightning however, right? They could play the rains New Mexico state's ranked underneath them as well as bowling, green, Texas State and Utah. Yes, Beddoes hometown. No, they're not the next thing on page six. That next section, the hardest schedule play the per team. Look at that hardest scheduled plead. That's right underneath the rankings, their South Carolina. Hardest schedule in the land? Yeah, really so far. I, I guess that's the average ready. Okay. Let me get army, Connecticut, Nebraska. So. What we lose all those played. No one do though, who isn't, but they haven't so far. We'll see. We lost a Purdue. Yes, loss to Colorado. Colorado's nobody else. Did you lost a Troy do in Colorado? Both our teams on the upswing, but they really are not proven themselves at all. Well, that that's crazy. The BYU's not listed. It's artists schedule and we lost a Michigan. Don't forget to top ten though. So anyway. All right. Well, it's kind of depressing. It's kind of depressing. It sure is, you know, I felt kind of watching the as far as football. I watched the, our hometown, Dallas Cowboys yesterday they came through, they want in the end, but man keep through there were some office of play calling in that game. That's really suspect. Dak had a decent game, right? Yes. You he threw for two hundred and fifty ish. We are just. They drove down to be able to take the lead other than kick a field goal. They didn't give the ball to back Erta Zeke that just why wouldn't demands on fire? Yeah, let them drive it in the end zone. He have over one hundred yards. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, it was great yesterday. Did you see the way the colts lost their game against Houston Texans? No, I'm glad they did. Finally, Texans got to win win for it on fourth and four from about their own forty yard line with about a half a minute left in the game instead of putting away and going for the time they went for it did not get I down Texas kicked a field goal. Thank you very much. That's right. Makes the first down. Makes the first out though he drives in the field. He's the hero, right? Right. So you guys BYU beat better college football, just saying here, beat Wisconsin. What was it? Three, right? Yeah. So we'll see. We'll see what BYU could do to Nebraska based on Brassica playing in common opponent this week. We go to Wisconsin. And so let's see your plan in Madison. Okay. It'll be interesting to see about forty. Five points will lose. It's going to look. I agree completely. I hope it's a serious beating because that's a little better for BYU. You wouldn't be rooting for Nebraska this weekend? No, not this weekend. You, but the other thing is Baker Mayfield had another great game. Yeah, until the referee stole the game away from the Browns boy. No kidding. Oh my gosh. That was horrible. But you know, that's where they're at. Now, let's stop for a second. I know it's horrible talking about the fumble and you know the quarterbacks in the grasp and all that. But you know, that's where we're at. Talking about the fumble that they called back the Browns could've out. I'm talking about the spot. We're back for a touchdown though, but there was also a terrible earlier in the game. We're marshawn Lynch. They said, oh, you're down. He wasn't. He was about to go for a touchdown. The referees in that game, Cleveland and Oakland should be suspended for a week. It was so horrible on both sides of the ball. Forty, eight, forty two. They want. They wanna feel goals. They won by three, something like that. We've ever. I've ever used the footage of Marsov. I bet he was real happy, wasn't he not know. When he tried. But no, no, the the NFL in the thing is we know about their blackout rules, stupid, stuff like that. And I realize I'm talking to a small fraction of people that have red zone channel, but they had the end of that game up there and they're like, sorry, folks, we have to pull it. It was like Heidi parked to remember the Heidi game when the jets and raiders game would take an offer a movie. This is what happened told me about it. Told me about it. So anyway, the NFL can't get out of its own way are trying to screw up the sport anyway, they can think of the bigger field had a good game. Sure. Did. I don't care about the rest of it. Baker Mayfield had another great game. I love that kid. I just I love that kid. I don't know why don't you marry him? He's up to almost five hundred yards pet correct by the more. Ravens or the last night three and one, and that's, you know, that's. Against rain there. We, we. Nine hundred thirty three. Pat gray only on the blaze radio network. At gray. All right. We're gonna get to chew the fat here at a sec. I let's go to John in Utah, John. Hi, you're on the lace. You can from Utah here. Welcome. I don't know if I have a favorite van, but if you're going to say good things, you might be the, you might be it. Go ahead. Well, I would have been calling me this morning if my team hadn't lost. Yeah. Yeah, it's it's ugly. It's you know, it's going to be interesting when they get together and play at the end of the year because well you can throw out all the record books would be way you tug it together. Thanks might be six matching. It might I help but it might Gooding thanks for the call triple eight, nine hundred thirty three ninety three. Time to chew the fat now with Jeffey. So today is the one year anniversary of Las Vegas shooting? Oh yeah. Yeah, we've come so far. No so much about the shooting except except I mean, we know that we know that there were, you know, fifty eight victims died of gunshot wounds. We know the fifty eight people were completely were shot to death. We know that eight hundred fifty. One people were injured, four hundred twenty two of them with gunshot wounds, and we know that the shooter paddock. Two. Four hundred twenty two hundred two. Wow. I know she's that's amazing. I'm not sure of heard that figure about the injured. I don't think I have either people injured for twenty two of them with gunshot wounds. Wow. And so you know today, obviously, all through Las Vegas is remember ceremonies. All there's strip is going dark tonight. Right? It's just I, I would like to, I know we close the, you know, the case or at least we kinda. Close and there's a few other minor investigations around, but it just seems like. I feel like I'm the only one that wants to know more about it. No, you're not. I don't know. I don't know what more everybody would. Why did it? Why did it was we're there, we're there accomplices. Were there people that knew what was going on? What was. Security guard was apparently an illegal alien. No, we had we, you had more thoughts of bigger destruction with the cars that he had in the parking lot. Just just strange that we've just kind of given up. We're just going to be and I'm okay with being sad for the people who lost their lives and all of that because they absolutely no not one of those people except for paddock himself deserved what what they got there. All I want to know. But do you think that the world is so chaotic and there's so much going on and it's so fast paced, breakneck speed that we just we think about it, but we don't have time to focus a lot of energy on it. And you know, we trust our officials to do this for us. So do you think the FBI is going to do anything with this? They're probably know. They're too busy. Looking up guy. Puteh's brings out in college supreme court now, so they will drink more in college than he said. He did what I wanna know. That's what I wanna know right now. I don't know who murdered and why they wanna know how much did he have two on each week. Kende that he spent Yale University if he ever had flatulence is what I was wondering. Wrote about it and it's high school year lease. We know farted in highschool because we know that beater. Beer causes for c. FBI needs Jeffey see. So we know that drink an excess amount of beer. Are you an investigator? I mean, I investigated things. Official. Yup. Okay. All righty. I've always wanted to be a special, Heinz ketchup police off. That's a good catch. You just want to catch a police. Badge is all I want. I actually, I want to be at a restaurant with you when you bust them. That's where I wanna be. We'll be putting hunts inside of Heinz bottle, evil histogram store more Vegas stadium. Builders reached a critical stage of construction. The sixty five thousand one point. Eight billion dollar indoor football stadium is underway Boyne making grab. They're putting for where in Vegas, the new stadium. Yeah, they're already. They're putting the, they're putting the concrete in. Maybe they're making the frames. So I mean, how? What are the odds that pro team OSs more than one point? Eight billion. One hundred percent. I mean, probably come in under why I'm thinking. All right. You know what we could finish this up for nine hundred billion. No, no. They're just gonna go excessive. You know. Vegas. You have to have that stadium that you know, opens up circular fashion or whatever. And that's like state of the art stadium is very gorgeous inside one point, six billion there cities. There were cities. I know looks noise it'd be better. I have and you know they had to leave the roof closed for back half of the season because more than that because the roof leaked because apparently when you pay one point, six billion for a stadium can expect the roof. I mean, it's a fixer upper at that point. Right, right. So they just left it closed and then they the off season. So now apparently. Well, that's good. I mean they do it was wrong. Yeah, Super Bowl going to be there. I don't know. You don't put a hole in the roof stew, that kind of thing. Oh, by the way, you should press Stu to be in here for more on trivia this week when it's the Minnesota Vikings in the Philadelphia Eagles. I have asked him to participate with us. It's kind of a lukewarm commit at this point. So let's him here cozy. Cozy, Minnesota wins more trivia. He's going to be hurt. Good hurt. It's almost always right here. If it's gonna hurt him, we're getting them in here. Pays twenty million to the SEC. Have you mentioned that but that his little tweet cost twenty million and I was thinking about this now. So the SEC fire finds him twenty million. Right? So he gets. He wants to take tesla, private. That's the tweet have considering taking tesla private at four hundred twenty dollars funding secured which was not true. The funding was secured. That's what so I have this man here tweeted out that twenty million dollars. It is the most expensive tweeted history sixty three characters. Three hundred seventeen thousand four hundred sixty dollars per keystroke. Yeah, and he's worth nineteen point. Seven billion thinki- can write that check without feeling it. You know, that's easier said about twenty million dollars a lot of money. I'm not denying that I'm saying. What kind of farm your own Nebraska? Twenty million dollars a lot of money. It's a good thing should be on a bumper sticker how much these having to pay into the PetO guy or whatever you call that that one guy. I don't much about that. That's quite probably talking behind the scenes a little settlement problem. I don't know that the guys actually going after right might not, and I'm a little nervous that you know what he is saying is true because otherwise the guy would be suing him, right, right suit. Are you sure I talked about that. On must sued by the cave, rescue diver. He called a pedal guy in town rapists last week. All right. Okay. Well, maybe not. Then he wants seventy five thousand dollars. Muscle sneeze that at him. Okay. Just pay that without any kind of his wallet try. Yeah. Really weird anyway, he's going to relinquish his role as chairman of the board for tesla and you know he is. Yeah, yes. To relinquish that's part of the deal with the SEC he still gets. He's still see. He just has to relinquish the chairman of the board job. Well, so. Wanted to do anyway, hit talked about a couple of times a couple of interviews about our wiped out. He was tired. He was. I mean, he's gonna podcast. Malkin dope. You know what I mean? It's probably that the best thing for him make sure sleepy. I'm sure as you're was pretty good. That's tire Rogan's, not rugged. Smuggles good stuff. You know, congratulations to Ford, Uber at lift. They revealed a new partnership that will see the companies work together both amongst themselves and with city governments. According to the press release. The aim is to cut emissions and boost the efficiency of urban mobility. It's all part of the Bloomberg shared streets platform, which is universal data language for sharing information about city streets, urban planning, and the new agreement. Uber lift will jointly develop a framework for sharing curbside pickup and dropoff statistics all want the numbers. It's all for coming for driverless cars and who the roads. So the formation, they can all just love each other. We're okay. And nobody else will be able to do it because we have all the information it'll be. News broke this this past week that Tom Hanks is playing Mr. Rogers, and it's an avid title the film yet it's working under the working project name as you are my friend, but the picture of Tom SOGA looks as so this is Tom Hanks, obviously, but it's Mr. Rogers, you know. You know Oscar again? Oh, yeah. It's coming as Mr. Rogers, probably, yeah. I mean, that's kind of. Straights for Tom. Because he tapas known to not really believe a lot of things. Fred Rogers believed. I don't know, conservative thoughts here and there. They're all I know touched on it last week a little bit about Baltimore. Having the worst homicide rate among the nation's fifty largest cities last year. Second, though, in the highest violent crime rate overall, which is good. I mean, they're not number one there. Then Detroit which had the highest overall violent crime rate last year break number two and homicides. So they're kind of go back and forth between Detroit Baltimore for that, which is good. And then ma'am. In Memphis, Chicago, Philadelphia Milwaukee, all top four murders and homicides. But then I see a crime clearance rates study in America, and it makes me think, you know, you could. If you commit murder. Forty percent chance to get away with it. That's forty percent of murder school on about this long airing at us sixty. I know I know they claim in the story that or hovering around sixty percent because what it has been for a number of years. So they they clear little over sixty percent sixty one point, six percent according to this, but that's still seems low low really when you get down to just a little over fifty. Three point, three percent, aggravated assault cases get solved. Rape according to this thirty four point five percent get sold thirty four route twenty nine percent solved. Theft, larceny-theft nineteen percent get solved. Vehicle theft. Thirteen percent get solved. Burglary thirteen point. Five percent get solved. I mean. I don't know why people with a lot of things where the line is on that, like, you know, if you know when you say, okay, so forty percent of murders don't get solved. Well, if they, I don't know how and I didn't dig deep into the study to see if they're talking about. You know, there's a lot of crimes that happened that they know are gang related, you know. So you're getting a lot of murders and a lot of killings that there's no way you're gonna solve it anyway. You know, so that obviously the numbers are high, but they know that it wasn't Bill the neighbor. Did those numbers seem accurate? And your experience of unsolved mysteries and crimes that occur Jaffe like alive house, you get away with. Just keep going to keep moving Cubal right off. Go like nothing ever happened this. You saw Sheila jackson-lee, slipped the evolution. Just look around. What was that? Slip it on and you just move on it. He's like nothing happened. She does quite good at it because she had that guilt. She slid the do Ford's attorney. Yeah, that was that look of guilty. I don't know what they said. It was some sort of notes from people, right? Oh, yeah. Loving for bullcrap. Come on. Believes that. And so you know, we all hated Arnold Schwarzenegger for tooting on the wife skelter. But you know, while he was okay, she must definitely. But the Maria Shriver I'll call her name. Sorry, I did made dig Reiter front of you. He was. He was shacking the made and had a kid with the made, but news now that Berea was baba. Arnold's campaign staffer guy after way before that. Nice all really big affair with her boyfriend. Now there's still together. So apparently if you read it to this where it talks about. Finding out and knowing knowing about it, and they would Arnold will be Sacramento as governor, especially the second term than Maria would take off without for a weekend, or you know, couple of weekdays here and there. So so in two thousand eleven with they admitted that the housekeeper had his son, you know, they really didn't. That's when they separated, but they haven't got an divorce yet. Divorce is not final yet. Swertz nigger and Maria Shriver. They're not. They're not a hundred percent divorced yet. Wow. It's still they're still technically. I mean, that's been going on for a long time still. That's still technically going what they're what they're my guess is they're talking about. They knew about it. Both of them knew about it and about each other. And it was just, you know, since now it's embarrassing and it's out because his son with that relationship with the maid is now eighteen something like that. He's older now. Yeah, yeah, he's he's getting up. There was a big bodybuilding guy too. Yeah. Well, you know, there's, there's a few of us like the workout. Are there. Look, what's yet? The whites? Yeah, it's right. It's serious. Yeah. Of foof get me out of there. So anyway. By my new podcast today, chewing the fat extra fatness is you like to call it the afternoon, it'll drop, but we had a listener and you can subscribe just go to any any place where you'll her loving favorite podcast is downloaded. It's a maleable. They're to the fat with Jeff Fisher and a listener trying to be helpful. Senate promo and said, wanted us to play it for him. And he said, you probably won't use it, but I wanted to send this along. And so I thought, okay, what. All right. Here you go. Listeners providing promotion, just audio listeners providing providing promos for the show. Now that's great. You've heard him, you know him. You can quote him spins now get ready to download him. The chew. The fat podcast with Jeff Fisher will be coming to your device on October first, download it now, that's epic helper. Right. Thank you. That was really, really appreciative of the of what the thing that was. Hold on. I picked up something from that too. Actually something else they're Ron. Could you play that again from the top? Because I think it's very proper. What I hear in the Bangor of heard him creek, no him, you can quote him plan. Okay, we're good. Okay. We're good things. Swoon 's acted. There was an audience there, crickets for you. That's great. So that starts. Thank you starts today. Thank you. You still was then Henry on Twitter h. Henry. Thank you so much. I appreciate it. Then the other listeners wanna provide content, go ahead right along. All right. All righty today. People can download through Friday starts day this afternoon to just go there and finish up babbling about Jeffey podcast. Coming up here. I just wanted to talk more about what. Pat gray. Unleashed. Radio network. Now back to Pat gray on ablaze radio network, June the vet Jeffy. So. In central Texas, and this is going to be a problem. I think many places. Essential Texas has a surf resort that's landlocked surf resort. The BS, our cable parks, surf resort, man, that was shut down on Friday because man was swimming there at the wave park and claims to have contacted the brain eating amoeba. From the Waterberg killed him. Yes, it did and they shut it down and. Senate off for testing and stuff, but it's kind of something to worry about it all these water parks. Right? I mean, it's I, I like going to them from time to time as fun. You know, you slide around you swim around as fun then you think then I hear stories about what's in the water. And you don't want to go there. You just don't wanna know. Good. Yeah. I don't know why this is happening now because it doesn't seem like there's another thing they just didn't occur when we're younger because we're the originally it was supposed to be. We get it lakes. This Brehm unity amoeba was they were telling us that we'd get it in lakes rivers, you know with the, but I don't remember it at all. I know either when we were growing up, I don't either. Now we're just we're getting it in actual canal. It's at water power, right? She's. It's crazy. It's sure is. So, I mean, are we not the media's becoming resistant to our burdening devices? I don't know if they are. Let's step up. Gabe CDC, please appreciate it. Thank you. Yeah, that's a, that's a. That's a tough one. I mean, the guy comes from New Jersey to Texas to vacation and have a good time at the water park in Waco, and then dies from it from some bizarre amoeba. An amoeba killed you. All right. Well. That that waterpark I think is going to have a tough time with real. Are you going to go? I'm not going as what the vivas. Not going. There's any chance I get an amoeba brain eating amoeba from it as our cable park. Now, people free, she's no, I've not. I've not going, although if you're there that neck of the woods and you know that they've cleaned and everything's fine, still not good enough for me. I'm not going not going. Pull up your camper. You're at the park ready to spend a weekend at the wave parts. Still not going. If you're in. If you're in a hotel down the road you, hey, the kids want to go to swim unmoved not going, but I mean, they've already cleaned it up. Good is ready to go. Is there any assurance that could give you that would make you feel comfortable enough to go there with your family? That's still out there right. No, I don't think so either. I don't think so. Maybe maybe I watch a few people jump out. Yeah. And while you know, maybe I'd do that. Maybe maybe that convinces me, but that's about it. Well, you're not gonna know if they got if the have the brain eating amoeba. When you watch him get out, you still don't know take. A little while three weeks from New Jersey with. Yeah. All you're doing exactly. We will be Chevy follows people around. So, I mean, he'll eventually see if there's affects nut. Well, it depends on who they are. Really. I don't know. Why are you tapped out? You got anything else because we don't have enough time to get to it, only stop a minute, get to it. What do you got? Save it for your show. It's holding back on you. Saving stuff over in the fat pile for his own show. Now, k, he's not. He's not coming with everything. He's holding back and just all right podcast. This afternoon. Download it, the fat with Jeff Fisher wondering if they might get a virus. If they download the podcast. Brady, though. Yeah. Can we get a fat causing amoeba from listening to? Yeah, we'll are vices like lost all parts of plastic and. Everywhere. I wish that which is the warranty cover that on the phone. All right, triple eight. Nine hundred thirty. Three Ninety-three gotta talk about this license plate collecting that's being done by those speed trap devices on the road. This is an amazing situation. We'll get into that coming up. Fascinating. Gray only on the blaze radio network. At grade is here on the blaze radio network. Nine nine hundred thirty three ninety three. And of course, Pat unleashed on Twitter. Where Kim tweets, maybe the FBI should do an investigation on Robert Francis. His drinking also explains his guitar solo. I don't know of anything. Not going to be over. You're gonna have your the rest of this crappy. All right, so good. That's so good. Charles unmitigated. Gall Beto may may not be blind, but he may be tone deaf, not blind, but he's deaf. Yeah, beer and flatulence has tweeted has Tom Hanks ever been a neighbor because he's playing Mr. Rogers. How do we know he's qualified to play this role? That's a good question. Nicole says in richer Specht we should all have known that there would be way too much fat to simply chew on pets show. That's why there's extra badness coming up on the Jeffey podcast. Is there enough room on the internet for more Jeffy. It's a big place. If it's that big, I dunno, my concern for the man with it's like is, will you turn on the TV one channels? Not enough to hold him us on like two or three different jails get? Well, that's why the FCC allocated like there's like channel eight point one, eight two, and it's usually he's face. Jeffey taken them caused that this amazing story. Just again illustrates the fact that we're in real trouble right now. The next time you pass one of those road signs with the digital readout. We have those all over the DFW area. Shows you how fast you're going. Don't just assume that it's there to remind you to slow down a little bit. It may actually be capturing your license plate data according to a recently released US federal contracting data. The DA drug enforcement agency will be expanding the footprint of its nationwide surveillance network with the purchase of multiple trailer-mounted speed displays to be retrofitted as mobile LP our license plate reader platforms that's a. Long winded way of saying they're going to record all license plates drive past these machines. Now. So that's not a problem at all. What's justification for this. They're looking for criminals. What is it? Game? Changing crime, fighting tool to some is a privacy overreach of near exit stencil proportion to others, license plate readers, which can capture somewhere in the neighborhood of two thousand plates a minute cast in astonishly astonishingly wide net. That's made it far easier for cops to catch serious criminals. On the other hand, though the indiscriminate nature of the real time collection along with fact that it's stored by thorns for later data-mining is kind of alarming to privacy. Advocates. If you know constitution advocates license plate, readers are inherently a form of mass survey of surveillance. According to researcher, Dave moss of the nonprofit electronic frontier foundation. You look at something like a wiretap and most of the time it's looking for a specific person and capturing specific conversations from that person. But here they're collecting information on everybody, no matter what, not all of whom very few of whom have been accused of crime and they, they collect it and store it just in case the someday commit a crime so they can go back and see who was in the area. Yeah. Okay. I mean, it's un-american they the DA will not release how much of the data they're collecting, but the nonprofit ACLU of Maryland said they found that only forty seven out of every one million plates scanned by police in the state or point zero zero five. So five, thousands of one percent were suspected of having been connected to any sort of criminal activity. Out of a hundred and twenty eight point five million license plates in Atlanta last year that they collected seven hundred eighty six thousand of those or point six percent were suspected of of having been connected to a crime in Austin. They collected twenty two million license plates and thirty. Two hundred of them or one one hundred of a percent were linked to an alleged criminal activity. They're just storing everything just in case. And again, you know, people say, well, I'm not doing anything wrong, and I'm not planning to commit any crime. So I don't care what they do yet. You don't know what will one day be considered a crime. Have we not seen the disintegration of everything we know lately. So. So they're storing this information, I guess, to see if you were in the area when a crime occurred, or when I'm wondering if they're trying to figure out your pattern so that if you ever have a speeding ticket, not that you could ever identify what this ROY. At all. They want to know where you're at on a regular basis and do this well, they can track for any purpose, right? They want. And while I do have a problem with this, I have a bigger problem with these roadside checkpoints where they just randomly like, hey, we're just checking to see if maybe you're neabry aided yet based on what probable cause. We're is your fourth amendments, not a thing anymore. It's just not a thing. No. Just like. Just like the NSA collecting of emails and phone records. That's what this exactly the civil asset forfeiture, which is another unbelievable un-american intrusion. Not to mention how about the guilty until proven innocent cycle were in right now, we're not teaching our kids laws anymore. The rule of law were teaching them nice ideas that are no longer put into practice, unfortunately. And then there's this Ono what the FBI recently ordered a suspect to unlock his iphone ten via the face ide- in the first known. Example of police doing this anywhere in the world. You love that. We're on the cutting edge of forcing people to. Do something just because the the police or the FBI want them to, but they haven't committed any crime that we know of. We're just we're just gonna make sure the incident occurred on August tenth when the FBI searched the house of Greg mcculskey in Columbus, Ohio during a child abuse investigation. So pretty serious. So they asked him to trigger his face facial recognition ide-. He said, no, but they forced him to do it. He was ultimately charged with receiving and possessing child porn. The search uncovered related conversations including chat with someone who was really an undercover officer. Only some data was obtained from the iphone. However, as the FBI didn't have his pass code, which put up roadblocks. A lawyer for this guy told Forbes Forbes, that the FBI turned to celebrate too soft, some kind of software system called celebrate, but so far has failed to to get anything useful. He also commented that police are now using boilerplate language in warrants to cover face ide-, mandatory, touch ideal. Unlocks have been happening for years even being used on corpses, though controversial. The practice is currently legal in sometimes claim to be necessary by law enforcement. We're getting into dangerous territory. Nobody wants child molester child pornographer, whatever to continue to roam free. But we have to, we have to follow the law and the constitution at the same time. So so search warrant issued in this case. But house incumbent upon the suspect to cooperate in that respect. I don't know. You can't force me to look at something or hit my face. Grammy my hair. Well, I don't have any hair because, well, I'm both. Yeah, it'd be, but you see my point. It's like, you know, apparently they can because they just did. I don't care for that. They can and they did. And so what what I what is left for us? As far as you know a, you have some sort of impetus to. Warrant this kind of intrusion, the civil asset forfeiture. They can just take it because they found it. They don't. They don't have to even charge you with anything. Now they can force you to open up your iphone. Think about this. We are not in the business of protecting child pornographers or child abusers. The point that I'm trying to make in this is that it's you have innocent until proven guilty right in theory. So isn't it incumbent upon the government in this case to figure out how to prove that you're guilty? He is now testifying against himself right by fortune his face, but you can't make to vote according to the constitution. You can't make people do. The calm to Shen. Never not familiar with this. Sorry, I think it means like taking a walk around the block. We let's go on a constitution and he's sort of, you know, take a walk. So the founding fathers they fought for freedom. Yeah. So they. Walks around the block. Let's go on a little constitutional. Yeah, yeah. Now, you know, we're teaching people on the show. You learn something every single day day here. Andy in LA probably Louisiana. I guess never know if that's the city or the abbreviation for the state. Andy, welcome. Okay. Yeah. Comment about the the brain eighty. Yes. I'm certified water operator in the state of Louisiana become a certified water operator. It takes a lot of study and a lot of pissed. Okay. All right. The binding amoeba actual, the actual term fort the name of it is not glory Fowler, and it's much easier to spell them paper than it is to cite, but it's naturally occurring. It's always been with us. It's in surface water as what? Why did we never hear before people contracting that because the test to test for or stupid expensive. And they're only three labs in the continental United States that will test for four, Pennsylvania, and Colorado. How do you, how do you get this? Does it just. I mean, does it come through your skin? Do you have to swallow water? How how does that happen? The nasal cavity and the post way the first way that they found out about it. And I'm trying not to sound like Alex Jones because this is real science, but. Found out about it was maybe pots. Naty pots where they, it's almost like vaporizer fifty a little water in the little old or whatever and who has issues. Wow, and you can get it that way? Yes, that's wise. It you big kids advise kids that have been parishes in the state of Louisiana in the past three years that have tested positive for one in Saint Joe pairs and one wash it pairs and I'm not gonna say if I'm involved in either one of them that's really scary. That is frightening stuff. What can you do about it? What can you treat the water with something to kill this Mita or what. All I can say is we are best good with Coleraine and flushing all the things that that your local utility operated as, but then the cost is so expensive. It gets passed down to the customer, and then they get the griping and raising Cain about Las my water Bill. So that's one reason we're, we're the unsung heroes effort time to keep this stuff out of the water. And every time I pull up somewheres and somebody wants to complain to me about their. Lady just make. Andy, I've got a quick question for you. I don't know. Maybe ten years ago. I don't know if you're involved with this, but whatever happened. Do you remember town in Louisiana that the local water people hooked up the water system to the sewer system accidents, and people were that happens more time than it gets more than it gets bogus ass but goes is is a lot. There's a lot of us where we have a wall that one major municipality gets there and they, they treat it and they send it out when when you have this many people living on a source water, drinking water, worship area, we find it all the time. You said you sit, it comes up through your nasal passage with if you drink it in the water would also affect you or does the stomach acid kill it. It has interim through think about it. There was one that was one instance where a child contracted from fifth and slot or the water goes, you know their side and then it just goes up the news. They're gonna couple of that. Then they show part of it was the mid the Netti pot inside the houses. But you know, flipping sleds showers. I mean, I'm not gonna shower upside down, man. You get water, ten get into your nose. Yeah. All right. Thanks for that chilling information. Andy, geez. We have a three day waiting period on water. We should ban water completely. It's true. I'm just glad that the summer is ending beginning right now or else. I may never jump into a pool again maybe by next spring, I will have forgotten about information from Andy. A lot of chlorine in your pool. Can you get in the pool or does it chlorine kill? It should asked him that before he hung up and what have been a good way to go. Talk show host thought, hey, what about your pool is the chlorine kill it or what? But I mean, you don't have a pull them. I don't care, right. I don't have one so triple eight, nine hundred thirty three Ninety-three more pet, grand leash coming up. On the blaze radio network. At gray. Covered quite a bit of territory today. There's just a lot going on everything from renewed Led Zeppelin toil on steroid heaven to this to these digital readouts that are taking your license plate down to the cavern drinking thing where we've got more on that coming up in a second. But leads up and going back to court with a band called spirit who they claim zeppelin ripped off their song Taurus for stairway to heaven. Back in the late sixties. Now, stairway stairway to heaven was re was recorded released in seventy, but the tourists on was released in nineteen sixty eight and the original claim was well, we've never even heard this band. How how would I have heard him. Maybe at the concert where they opened up for you guys. Remember that you're. Like wall, we didn't curtains and whatnot. How are you going to do that? Can't be expecting Led Zeppelin to hear what's writing five feet in front of them. You can't. You can't. So they were the opening act for Led Zeppelin on a tour so that when didn't hold a lot of water, triple eight, nine hundred thirty three Ninety-three Bobby in Texas. You're on the blaze. I never heard that song by the group, but what you played while ago, it seemed to me that it was just the baseline. That was the part that was similar to Led Zeppelin. I think that's true. Yeah, it's the kind of the intro and the interest. The baseline? Yeah. It made me think about like every country and western song has the same baseline and basically. Pardon me? And so are the country and western bands gonna start suing each other because they have the same baselines in them. Maybe if this turns out to be successful, maybe they will know. Thanks. Bobby. Terry AirAsia you're on the blaze high. Yeah. How you doing guys love your program, low Jeffey, coed. You brought the. Boron tribute back. It's the highlight of my week, but I want to address the Paul McCartney not being able to read music. Yeah. So how does he write it when he can't write it or read it? How does he put down the music that's in his head? Well, I'm a musician myself and I don't read or write on guitar and got a bunch of record it. And you just what you do is in noodle around on guitar, and you find a little melody and then you record it and then play for everybody song and it's like, I know you play guitar. Just lovely. Yes, yes. You hit a Jeep accord. And you make up a little melody to go with it. That could be a song. Okay. So they never write it down the record it? No, not the notes or anything. Right? You kinda forget it. If you don't have a good memory like me, I have a little cassette recorder. That's my high tech equipment. Just put it on there. And then I build on the song is I go along and then it's done. I nobody probably eighty percent of these people making music on his radio programs. Don't read music. Hm about that. So what famous song would we know you're? No you from what? What fabulous classics have you written. My my website. Okay. Terry Irish music, Irish, music, Perry, Terry Irish music. I'll ks your last name, Irish, Irish music. The kind of music do know, no Irish music. I don't do Irish music. Terry, his Irish music sucks. So. Everybody should go there and check out your song. I'd bring her coffee. All right. Thanks. I think you'll like it. It's different music. I will. I will to this. Thank you under-. Hang right. So stand by for that. Cool, cool. Looking forward to hearing what's it called I, I'd bring her coughing, bring our coffee. All right. Let's go to Robyn Ohio. Hey, rob, you're on the blaze. Hey, you guys bring econ. He worked to. Terry's jobs is? Yes. We're talking about the the l. PR system. I've been a police officer about news now fire as an MP prior to that. So I'm like thing. I'm kind of went in it. Okay. With the data collection, what it does, it takes over two hundred or twenty five hundred meters per minute with the license. But what it does is it actually only flag the ones that pop up as one. It doesn't show you every person. Okay. But it just store them right. They said they are storing the data just in case dum system might however the ones that I have experienced, they don't. Okay. We actually don't. We local. Have access to that and that even goes to the chief and we have to pay like licensor fees every year. We have to pay our boatload of money, but we actually don't have access to that at all. Okay. Accents. Let me ask you this got a police officer on the line. Are you more likely to give a warning to a beautiful woman that you would some guy that you pull over. A lot of the phone with on what their previous history is. I've had people crying. I've had people try to lift their skirt up a little bit or they really well, rob, is that word? Does that work rob. It depends. More than likely that, yeah. Sorry. This dress, but Juki might get away with it. Because you don't want to see more. You're like. Okay. So just just so that I don't misinterpret you rub. You're saying that it does work for a beautiful lady to Heiko prescription. You pull over impulsively. Give her a ticket, yes or no? I'm going to say it doesn't hurt. I'm going to say, I believe that that was an honest answer. Thanks, rob, appreciate it. And of course I knew the answer to it because I've been pulled over in Texas in six years. Yeah, fifteen times I have received a ticket in fourteen of the fifteen. My wife has been pulled over eleven times. She is received a ticket zero times zero. She's got no warning zero. All eleven. She is eleven for eleven. Now. She's not bullet up her skirt, but sure. You know, she's a beautiful woman master. No firm this. She rarely worse skirts except on Sunday, and I'm with her then. So I would know if she was pulling up still an officer of the law just told us that it doesn't hurt if you're a beautiful lady hikes skirt during a traffic stop. Yep. Okay. So right. I mean, just the scales of Justice. I mean, they're completely blind right life. You know, we keep hearing about this fairness thing. It's just not fair life isn't fair. Is it? We're all human beings and that's going to affect a a male officer. I'm sure. And it just is part of human nature. It's just human nature, triple eight, nine hundred thirty. Three Ninety-three should I start wearing for for these possible traffic? Stop a parka. You should wear. Yeah. Burqa maybe burqa and a parka, a parka over your burka. I think that would help triple eight nine hundred thirty three ninety three more peck Ridley coming up. At great is here on the blaze radio network through nine hundred thirty three ninety three and it Pat unleashed on Twitter, millennial, falcon tweets. The reason it's difficult to monitor for brain eating amoeba or Neg. Larry fowleri is name. Is it? There's only three labs in the US that test for? Yeah, we just heard that on the phone and it's really expensive. Okay. The three labs are in Colorado, Pennsylvania and Florida. Beer and flatulence tweets. Regarding the water testing. All I can tell you as we try our best. Thanks Andy from Louisiana. So did Obama tries best. All right. That was his best. He leaves something wanting. Yeah, I think this this, this is an important tweet right here. Oh, needs Lombi tweets out if we only had those license plate reading, speed signs, thirty, six years ago, we could know the cavenaugh went two miles per hour over the posted limit, right? Yes. We got a hold of feet of the fire on that scandal right there. We've got a week Jeff flake. He demands that we find out if Brett Cavanaugh was speeding two miles over thirty six years ago. Well, we've got to find out if you lied about how much he enjoyed drinking. He said he liked to drink. He said he attended parties is settled. I don't even understand how it's ally that that they're trying to claim that he lied about that he he didn't lie about that. He said he didn't pass out. He said he, he didn't have blackouts. Okay, you'll not everybody does. Sorry. He's not the lush that you apparently are all stick and senators. That doesn't mean you're. No, not necessarily. Triple eight, nine hundred thirty three Ninety-three here's what Donald Trump said about the drinking situation today concerning Brad Kavanagh. So if he did lie about his drinking, does that mean you'll pull his? But I don't think he did look his his. I'm just saying, I'm not a drinker. I can honestly say I never had a beer in my life. Okay, right. It's one of my only good traits. I don't drink whatever they look for some that I said, never had it less of alcohol. I've never had alcohol. I've just for whatever reason. Can you imagine if I had what a mess? What I'd be. I'd be the world's worst, but I'd never drank. I never drank. Okay, but I can tell you, I watched that hearing and I watched a man saying that he did have difficulty as a young man with drink. The one question I didn't ask is, how about the last twenty years have you had difficulty list? Because nobody's said anything bad about him in many, many years, they go back to high school. I think that was the quote was misquoted on. On the cable news channels because it said he that Trump claimed cavenaugh. Had trouble or had difficulty with drinking when he was younger and what you just said, if he had difficulty. Right? Which network flashed that up there. I'm trying to remember CNN. I think it was. What a stunning surprise that would be misquoted him or took it out of context. That's not the accurate clip there. Yeah. Yeah, I think I mean, that's what he said about it. So. Also cavenaugh accuser, Julie, sweat, Nick. She is the one who claims the rape gangs. She. Is facing some inappropriate conduct allegations of her own now, which is kind of interesting. Apparently during her brief employment with an Oregon tent tech company. There was a lawsuit filed in two thousand at Portland based web trends alleging that Julia sweat, Nick, who's now fifty-five falsely claimed to be a Johns Hopkins, University alum and fabricated her prior work experience. The company voluntarily dismissed the lawsuit after a month and avocado who's our attorney, I guess, says that the allegation is bogus. This lawsuit never had any merit as evidenced by how quickly it was dismissed. He says, but the allegations laid out in the lawsuit include engaging unwelcome sexually offensive conduct no, and making false and retaliatory allegations that other coworkers had engaged in inappropriate conduct toward her. So there was some sort of issue where she was barely not getting along with people in the company and they weren't liking her all that much either. What does all this mean? Just means more nonsense for the next week, at least. And you know, it means that one Senator who's on his way out at the end of this at the end of the year? Well, probably the beginning of January actually next year when the new session starts, it means that he can throw a monkey wrench into this whole process because he's not up for re election, and he can insist that we halt the process until we have yet another f. b. i. investigation. Meanwhile, Lindsey Graham's all pissed off about it, and he has been. He's been the the hero in all of this. He's been really champion a champion for cavenaugh and strongly defending him and talk about what a terrible process this is. And as he said, hey, these guys have been my friends, but it almost sounded like he was. He was ending that at the, but he was pretty fired up at the time. So we've got Lindsay. Graham who actually is making sense now, and because of that Bill more on his crappy show over the weekend when after Lindsey, Graham now pay close attention to what he does here and then try to imagine if this was a person on the right, say this about somebody on the left, how would that be received. But here is here is Maher talking about Lindsey, Graham. This is incredible. Oh, and then they tried quartering Lindsey, Graham, but he but he got away because he's with the back door. That's okay. Wow. Wait a minute. That's okay to joke about somebody sexuality like that. Especially guy who's not out Lindsey, Graham never outed himself. Sure. There have been rumors, but he's never said he's homosexual ever. In fact, I think he's denied it. And would that would that joke be good even if he was out right? Even if he was come on. That's okay to say that where, oh my gosh, if that was me or Glenn or stew or king, you wouldn't have a job the next day you'd be done. You'd be done the LGBT q. q.. A two people would be all over. You. Wow, that's amazing. Was more and the approving audience too. There? Yeah, he's a Republican. We can laugh and joke and check this out. You know what bad is this Trump of finding people. I mean the fact that Trump can either find people like him or make how Lindsey, Graham, Lindsey, Graham strange, stabilizing influence of dead boyfriend because he is. Wow. But how so just at the back door joke and then throws out that he needs the stabilizing influence of his dead boyfriend. That's pretty specific. He's apparently got some kind of information that most of us don't. I didn't. I don't know anything about Lindsey Graham's dead boyfriend if he had won. I don't know. I didn't know if he had won and a certainly didn't know if he was alive or dead that he had passed away. Good. Golly, man, that's rough. But all of that is okay from Bill Maher I guess. Right. All that's perfectly acceptable because it's it's Bill Maher. It's Glenn Beck saying it about somebody on the left. Because you know that'd be everywhere today. Nobody's talking about that. No one. Frustrating. The double standard is really, really frustrating. Triple eight, nine hundred thirty three ninety three. And in this environment, Katie Couric was appearing on CNN's reliable sources over the weekend with idiotic, Brian Stelter, and they were talking about the ousting of les Moonves from CBS. And so Katie started lamenting the fact of of health you women. There are in management in news. Here's what she had to say Claire from Ronin Theros excellent reporting that they have a real culture problem there. And the culture I found that sixty minutes personally was very challenging at times quite offensive because I think obsequious subservience was a job requirement in order to thrive there for many women. The boss. Yeah, thank you for that translation and I think that you know, obviously the male hierarchy has been in place there for years and it's time for it to end, but they're not the only network that has a meal hierarchy. If you look at the news presidents at every major broadcast and cable network, they're all male, three evening news anchors are male. The vast majority of executive producers at every network. And this really has to end if we really believe that the tone at the top is paramount, then you have to have more diverse voices at the top because they have such an impact on the editorial choices that are made who cover stories and how they're covered. Okay. So let's take a look at what you saying that all the top executives at every major news, news, network news source, they're all men. See no CBS course. We know about less moon Moonves just housed. So now the interim the acting CEO is Joseph Nello that? Okay, so that's true. Yeah, David Rhodes is president, Jeff Egger is executive producer. So yes, all three of them CBS over at CNN you got Jeff Zucker Ken joust and Michael best. So she's right about CNN and CNN. Okay. So now we go to ABC news. You've got Ben Sherwood in James Goldstone agai right about ABC ABC. So you got NBC you got end e lack Noah up time and Phil Griffin. She's right about NBC about MSNBC. We got over there. Well, it's the same people because it's owned by the same hundred. Let's look at the liberal New York Times. You got Mark Thompson AG shells, Berg, and he's a boy to dean, backward all men, the Wall Street Journal. William Lewis met Murray, both men points, Washington Post, Frederick, j Ryan, junior, Martin baron. So obviously she's right well about these liberal except for something called fire. Fox news. Ever heard of that. They can't be a man. Rupert Murdoch who is, of course, owns box newsies executive chairman, but the very next person, the CEO Fox News and FOX business network. Suzanne Scott, what a strange name for a man. Wow. That's a boy name. Yeah. Suzanne the boy, the guy the man, oh boy named Suzanne Dame. Suzanne, his parents must hate it in. FOX has a female CEO. She didn't in quite acknowledged that, and of course, she wouldn't know. She's right about most of them though. All those liberal outlets all the liberal outlets all loaded with men at the top and isn't that interesting hypocrites. Let's just get so frustrating. You wanna swear so I won't triple eight nine hundred thirty three Ninety-three more Packer unleash. Great. Lays radio network. Pat gray returns on the blaze radio network. This is the FBI going to investigate Christine Ford over her agree GIS errors that she's already admitted to like this one. There's one correction. Okay, misuse, but word. Bystander adjective. Okay. Okay. Bystander means someone is looking at an assaults. Impeach it was technically a bystander. Used the word bystander as an adjective. What about the dangling participle? She also left at the end of one of her sentences. Why isn't the FBI on that? Maybe they'll come out in the week. Maybe we put the CIA on the fact that she used a colon instead of a semi colon in one of her since kind of your taste me little bit, you know. Talk about outrage. I am outraged that nobody's investigating any of those things. So let's get on it. Where's the NSA on this? Where are they. Triple eight, nine hundred thirty. Three Ninety-three also. This couldn't happen to a better guy. Last man standing. What was that on ABC before? Yes. Okay. So they moved it ABC canceled him and we talked about that what year and a half ago or so that six million six point. Four million viewers was wasn't good enough for them. So FOX picked it up and it debuted last week and had a huge. Debut according to variety. The Tim Ellen show. Last man standing averaged eight million viewers in, oh, just in the dental. Well, in the key eighteen to forty nine age group. So it was FOX's most watched comedy in seven years also with premieres of the cool kids and hell's kitchen. The last man standing revival led the charge for FOX's most watched Friday with entertainment in over nine and a half years, and its highest rated Friday during premier week in seven years. So did really well, that's great. Tim Allen's. He's brave because he'll actually speak out about his conservatism from time to time. So compared to previous season debuts on ABC. For example, the show six season opened with six million viewers average six point four, it's last season and despite that and that's pretty strong for these for this day and age ABC candidate anyway. And a lot of people think because they can't because he's conservative and would that's a prize anybody. I doubt it. So the subject matter on it too is not conducive to, you know what? They wanted Hollywood. This guy, he plays a guy, Mike Baxter who's happily married father of three daughters. You know, he's not. He's not the head of a LGBT q. q., a two family, but are his daughters like, you know, they're not lesbians. As far as they do, they do. They protest outside supreme court hearings. Not every America's doing. Have that on TV. Right. Can't have that on TV. Okay. Yeah, he apparently I didn't get to see it, but I was being told earlier that you know, he talked to the audience. You know, just kind of had a one on one and just kind of before the show store after the show. And so it's really cool. But like you said, he's a stand up guy, really? Yeah, he's great. But I guess judging by the store you have in your hand right now, it doesn't really matter because. No. Well, we got a little bit of time. Do we really so the world's not ending like in the next five minutes time? How much time? Well, according to Isaac Newton. Oh, that guy thing, he predicted the world would end in twenty sixty. We'll Jesus second coming careful. Just funny fairly the newly. They just discovered these writings of of Newton. He predicted the world would end in twenty sixty. Drinking I could do with Brett cavenaugh between now and then all my gosh, right. Yeah, you could drink yourself to death in a matter of days because that's the kind of drinker I understand. Brett Cava is. Yeah, we put that test. So this guy who discovered gravity wrote about a second coming of Christ in just over four decades of time marking an end to life as we know it. Okay. He was considered a pretty insightful theologian and he had a lifelong interest in God and religion. And they were okay to say it back then you know, wait, they didn't get drummed out a society shunned for it back. So Isaac Newton said that the Jesus coming back in twenty sixty. Do you think that. The Democrats could stall the Kevin confirmation dill that long. Yes, yes, I with help of the GOP. Yeah, probably so. So in this new set of writings that they discovered, he wrote under the alias. Jehovah Sanctis Eunice any predicted the world would reset in twenty sixty at which point the earth will once again become the kingdom of God. It may end later, but I see no reason for its ending sooner. He wrote. Does it ever have you looked through this or not doesn't ever site what he bases that on a haven't looked through that because he was convinced future events were already ordained by God, and he believed in the existence of prophetic time periods. Okay. In January this year, the bulletin of atomic scientists moved the doomsday clock closer to midnight warning that the world is closer to catastrophe than it's ever heard about this. This this clock is getting closer and closer to midnight. Yeah. I mean, where did it research closer? Are we know on that thing? Because how close can you get? I keep hearing how much closer we're getting the midnight. It's two minutes to midnight. Now. Because of nuclear war possibility. Climate change. Oh, and political upheaval? Well, yeah, the doomsday clock. I mean, the climate chance that I'm surprised we're still here today. I thought factor that it on Friday. I thought climate change was going to wipe us out over the weekend and didn't know. It's been kind of mild here considering now Tober. Well, so you it's kind of getting to the point where it's climate change, ready for the world end. I don't know if you know this, but. Change is threatening tragedy holding. Well, she's going to tell you climate change is threatening one of the most magnificent wild animals on the planet. Qualifer polar bear sole struggling for this. I was really close men bear. Knew it what was bare. At least you didn't say panda. Everybody knows that's not a stupid and they're not magnificent. That's true point. Cute cute, but it is. It is climate change that is causing the sharks to act the way they do. I mean, we've run ical peco's weird behavior over the last several months. Now in just off the coast of California, a shark was actually stocking this poor thirteen year old kid. He was reviving in the ocean without scuba gear and was attacked Saturday morning, offbeat beacon's beach in instances, California twenty five miles north of San Diego. He was airlifted to a local hospital. Fortunately, his condition has been stabilized, but his whole clavicle was ripped open. They said, you could see the ball and socket joint. So really bad bite yen. He's now in serious condition is stable and effective. Make a full recovery. Good. Yeah. So somebody in a kayak, saved him right, pulled him out of the water. And the guy who was in the kayak and saved the kid said, we started heading in and the shark was behind the kayak. He didn't want to give up yet. Following him in and the kayak was full of blood and the shark just kept coming after him. So literally trying to chose get to the guy. Yeah, I just really something, and by the way, I don't know what's going on with, oh search, but c. e. r. c. h. dot org. But another Eram is Chico map. It's like the protecting him now or has he been killed member the last shark that. Inspired the Arab message, the four, oh, four error message. It was determined later that that shark was now dead. Kind of well, just pointing wait in the show this have some thoughts for poor PICO. So I'm gonna ride. So I'm gonna change killing some of the animals on earth climate change? No. All right. We will see you back here tomorrow on most of the same thing that you're checking it out on whatever. Radio, television who knows where every war. Pat gray unleashed on the blaze radio network.
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Hello, Nick, Joe sorry for the delay. We had a failure latest gentlemen. Catastrophic. Failure of windows updating. It's sort of a updated in hung on the track caster. But we're back, and it seems to be fine. Everything's working allegedly allegedly. There's there's that fear when you're fuck. I'm turning off the update I'm going to start. Again, the us everything that is the one annoying thing. We were talking about this before the podcast, I've been using windows to ride on and I like the ThinkPad I really like I love the keyboard. It's great to write on, but windows updates like two or three times a day, sometimes not just windows, but like Lenovo will update. And there's some sir firmware update and the bios update and adobe acrobat checking in wanna know if we can bid defender updates. Yeah. The I haven't used a ThinkPad they they got this still have little like Clint Clint, I don't use it. I guess it's. The people that have been using it for ever. It's very accurate if you do use it, right? It's like one of those things where you just sort used to muscle memory. You're used to doing it. And then they touch the other buttons with their thumb, right? They can still do shit, and it has the mouse at the keypad. So it's both. It's so weird. How quickly you become accustomed to some new version of things like I I've been using my ipad, and I and then I've gone back to my computer and my live like a little MAC book. And I'm fine. Even that weird. Like, I find myself just wanted to touch the screen, and I have my muscle memories immediately shot. That's one thing. That's very odd about MAC computers. They still haven't embrace the touch screen laptop. Whereas ThinkPad has touch screen. You can use the screen. Yeah. It's an option one that has a touchscreen and one that does not. But that's a lot of windows. Computers have touchscreens, and they even have it. So you can turn into a tablet you flipped over. And if they think they call it the yoga the ThinkPad yoga. Ryan, and Microsoft has won the surface or something. Yeah. Abbas like now, we want to sell you two different things. That's exactly what it is. Yeah. Combine their dirty people. Really are that fucking battery thing really pissed me off. Did it come out at it? Finally, get officially admitted it. Oh, yeah. They said they they admitted it, and they said they did it because the old phones they're trying to preserve the battery. The fuck you were you were trying to piss people off. So the got a new phone. We we all know exactly what they're worse on me. It works on me every like year and a half from this is my phone fucking dying every ten minutes, and I'm like, I gotta get a new phone dirty people. Yeah. Dirty people. I got the new one. I got the new the newest. Yeah. Mac the whatever phone. Yes. S max. Yeah. It's too big. I fucked up is it too big. Yeah. Five never gone to the bigger one. I've always gotten this. This is one actually was perfect is happy. Yeah. But I got greedy. I wanna go back. They have some of those now the smaller like the four by. Little size. Yeah. Someone had one the other day, and it had it my hand. I was like, oh, this is nice. Yeah. You could text with one hand. Yeah. Exactly. And I think they now make that one with a higher power. It's like that size. But it's I don't know. Yeah. And it fits like in your hands square and the the the edges are hard. It's in their perfect. Yeah. It's not like a slip this one feels like it's going to slip. You can't quite get around. It the whole time. Yeah. The four one that one it it also has a headphone, Jack. It's like the last the mohican they got rid of all the other. Now, I guess it's still now the there's the converter I don't know the Dunkel is that what it is. They fucking. They got me though. I'm in I'm in. I used the non apple products in a longtime. Well, I gotta think like I said, and I like I said, and I also got the Samsung galaxy note nine the new one, and it's very good. But the fucking better, dammit. I wish it wasn't. Yeah. I wish it wasn't. Yeah. Man. They figured it out. They figured some shit out. And it's also just like it's they figured out the lifestyle of something where you're like, I'm I'll take this branding. I'm a creative. Those think different. Yeah. You fuckers fucking work, man. I was like, oh 'cause I remember he's getting like that app of the macbook pro I'm going to edit. This fucking. I'm gonna start Eddie mode shit. I remember hearing the Louis was editing. His show with a thirteen inch MAC book he edited his whole show. Yeah. And he'd liked doing it on the little MAC book for some stranger Brown a plane or doing whatever I get. I never added anything. I could never fuck. Do you ever? Do you? Now does your brain work that way there you good luck with the manual and shit? I feel like your brain works that way a little bit. No. I mean, I could I just don't have any desire. Yeah. Yeah. It's like your brain has I'd at some point decided like my I have a certain amount of capacity in my brain. And I don't wanna use any of that for anything that. I don't I'm not interested in good point. And sometimes some people like that. It's just like it's I've never been drawn anything like that. And I'm just not interested like as soon as I could have someone else. Like do my taxes? I was like. Yup. I don't wanna think about that. Yeah. On what's all about bandwith? Right. Yeah. Like, what what are you spending your thinking on you could do all those other things, but how much? Would that be annoying? Yeah. And how much would it fuck up the things that you like to do? Yeah. And some people love that stuff, buddy. I have a buddy who's a successful actor who still does his own taxes pays dry TATA's own residual checks. He he fucking he likes it again. You know what? I mean. I'm like, all right. Good for you like in Jamaica. That's that's joyful that brings you joy least doesn't have to worry about getting ripped off. That's I think that's part of Chuck pollen was here on his agents, stole all his money. No, millions realize broke. It's crazy. How what happened to the as he going after the fucking jail. Yeah. Five guy still millions stole millions from him and a bunch of the people, and they don't know where the money is. He's hoping to get some of it back. They might be able to find some of it. But the agents stole from several different clients. Wow. Some madman entirely rates like chug writes books about like watch out. Yeah. Writes books about creepy creepy shit. Yeah. Someone did it to him back. Yeah. Danes brother, his brother Stolz more. I think it's his half brothers half brother stole like seven million dollars. In wouldn't tell anybody where it is still fuck you I'm going to jail. Yeah. I think I think he might be out a think he might be out of jail looking for looking for new clients. I think I think you like put it in coffee cans and shit and drove across the country and worrying holes. Yeah. I mean, if you have a they would be able to find it if they got a whole your GPS unit. But if you got like, a Garmin GPS unit using the go hiking, you can you know, Mark where your campus, but you could you could do Simla like tagging shit. You could only do that you could go to the fucking woods and go to a tree and dig a hole next to that tree. Deep into the ground drop a coffee can with a million dollars in it geo tat tag on and come back going to coffee. Can I don't know? Well, there's something about. Yeah. There's something about a call again. That's very pleasing in the idea of rolls of money. And like, yeah. Like, Chuck, full and nuts or whatever. That copies are full Gers crystals. Yeah. Was probably garbage bag Fargo was just on the other day, and it's like Bush EMMY high net money, and then he like he's it's like he he takes like he's got his window scraper. And he's in, you know, far, it's just like, desolate snow for miles, and he just stay. He sticks. The like the window scraper into the snow tomorrow where he's hitting the money, and it's like all this guy's fucked. He's never getting them. This is like there's no horizon line and just snow and fucking skies group you ever watched the new version of it. We say about Thornton as you heard. It's gray season. One's good season. Two is I think for my money like the best television like season two that show is unbelievable and season three's. Very good. But season two is unfunny. And believable. It's like in the seventies. Who's in it Kitson Johnson ever like Jesse plans Carson don's who's the fucking? I don't even remember. But it's great. It's great. I like I like all three seasons of that show. But season to me is like unstoppable. Are they still making it or they done? They might go make some more in a few in a year or two I think they might they were talking about making one I think Chris rock might be tach to do. All. That's right. Yeah. Saw something. Yeah. I saw something like that. But I don't know. I don't know what the deal is with it. But and sees the threes. Great but season two as fuck. And cooks half brother and sister in law must repay twelve million. This new S's from twenty ten when it happened. He got six years in jail in sixteen years probation. So he'd be out by now. So he's oh six years in the pokey in two thousand ten. Yeah. He's out. I think he just got out, dude. Because I remember seeing something about check health million dollars stole from fuck must repay. Okay. I don't have it. Yeah. What do you do? How does that work in jail? I mean, the guy just stayed in jail. Like, he could have I might be getting this wrong. But I do remember some of the story was they were offering leniency if it gave the money back. Yeah. And not going to give it back case. That's how much what's that? Some guy found a bunch of gold. He's in jail because he won't tell them where it is. And he goes people like I don't arguably hundreds of millions of dollars or something like that. Because how much it's worth where he found the goal. He like he found the golden then he got investors to give him the money to help them. Go to retrieve it. Oh god. He's like add on where it is. What was it like a shipwreck deal? Yeah. There's a lot of money in shipwrecks. I was watching a documentary on these billionaires or rich folks who finance these guys to go hunting for treasure, there's they know where some Roman ships have sunk. And so they go looking for these Spanish galleons and Roman filled with gold coins that are worth hundreds of millions of dollars. And you know, it's like this. Crazy gamble the oceans fucking gigantic. Yeah. And also like, I guess gold is gold maintain. It's it's like substance after it really does it really does. That's what. What? Rail of shipwrecks seventeen billion dollars seventy billion in gold. They found some of Massachusetts finds shipwreck with a treasure of up to oh my God seventeen billion. And so and someone financed. It icon known. I thought those chronic that's fucking wild, man. So where is this fucking in Cape Cod? Got Dan Brenner ten year old ship Spanish ship. Wow. That's amazing. Yeah. There was a bunch of those. I mean, you imagine taking a fuck and boat that you made out of trees filling it up with. Try to floated across the fucking ocean with like a map that some fucking drunk to. And no knowledge at all about storms. Come and like, I hope we don't get hit by one who fuck knows. You got a farmers almanac. All the time. I just thinking about a letter. I just think about like families like immigrants coming over to this country, and like, you know, wherever fucking Ireland Poland Russia, whatever you want to say like turn of the nineteen twenty cents whatever hundreds of years ago people get over here. And they're like I made it. Okay. I went to New York. And now, I'm in Rochester where the fuck I ended up and then to send a letter that hopefully goes back across the ocean and then to like some fucking mailman whose drunken dies a heart attack in the mud in Poland. And you're like, you hope it gets to you to be like, yeah. Okay. I'll go meet you in Rochester. Like, I'm I'm blown away that anybody caught in touch with anybody and found their family, or I don't know you would think you would make duplicate letters. I guess that has to be they just. Like, I don't know. If you've got the last one, but heads up. Yeah. I'm, you know, maybe I'm fucking slave in Rochester. But I mean, imagine the patients that people have back thing because like I'll get an Email from someone. And then I'll get an Email like an hour later. Did you get that Email like Jesus Christ, bro? Yeah. Relax. That was just like I was I was we're counting. I saw buddy of mine who I'd been I'd met in in. We were in Europe. And we and we met these kids in October fest. They had lived in Germany, and we're like meeting up with them in October fest, and this was before Email and cell phones. And you just feel like I'm going to be at the fuck in two ten train and Munich like, I hope you're there. And that was it that was like you hoped that you connected. And that was that. There was no like, hey, m texting and five minutes later like you to let you know. Like, we'll meet at a McDonald's, or whatever the fuck was is crazy. Yeah. So it's amazing that anything got done. Yeah. The people met and got married had kids. And and then they traveled across the world. Then came back a month later and found their family if people are waiting for them. Yeah. And they did it it happened. I mean, and maybe shit didn't have I don't know. I guess you've watched show Vikings. No, it's good show. Who one of the things that's crazy? As motherfuckers would get on boats, and they'd go just rope. Cross the ocean till a bunch of people and come back six months later with some gold and everybody would be waiting for him at the docks. It's like what kind of life is just waiting in the doctor's like, there's no version of like, we'll f wa I will be there. It's not even like you're going to. We'll just send the motorboat ahead to like let everybody know that we're going to be there in like a month. That's it. We're gonna people are going to one day laugh at how ridiculous. It is to send a text message. Like, these guys weren't even telepathic. Right. Do you imagine they had a taxi to the right? They send pictures because they couldn't see what the other person was actually seeing to. It's at all. It's just going to be all in a fucking contact lens. Is that what's gonna happen to us? You a chip it's going to be a chip. And then it's gonna be like black mayor for sure. Yeah. How far off do you? Twenty years max. Yeah. I think it's going to happen. So quick. Yeah. Just like cellphones happened. So quick the iphone was only what eleven years ago. Yeah. That's crazy. And that's the first iphone had a camp. Did it have a camera on the first of maybe it had something if you go back and look at your iphone pictures from like five years ago? How dare you? How dare you accept? This is a fuck and photo I bought an apple digital camera. And it was a giant honk shit. It was like this big. And it was one megapixel. It was fucking gigantic. It was so big. Yeah. It was just this brick. I remember going and buying that. I like a video camera early two thousands to like put myself on tape in New York. Oh, you can hear the you can hear the. Yeah. And I would try to shoot myself to fuck and try to get you know, there it is. That's what I had was things. And that's a and is one pixel. To PC. It was probably like two thousand dollars. Probably. Yeah. And before that when I first came out here in nineteen ninety four I had a meeting with this guy was like one of the big wigs at Disney, and he had a Newton do you. Remember, a new e af vaguely is like a tablet, and he was all so happy about this had very organized on his Newton like this fucking. It was like he had a Sorus with a screen. That's what it looks like it's big stupid fucking thing. And it had, you know, a little stylus news. Things on it was this in the years like between when jobs had gotten fired. And they were like or was there that was I think that was when right? A loss years. I just saw a Alan Alda just posted a thing on his old Atari commercials. I guess he was like the spokesman for Tari and a Tim talking about Atari, you could also use for word processing, and then also that they had like a very early tablet. He's like you can draw paint on it. And I was like shit this bad man, eighty four now, which I'm like, I don't know what that was. But it was a Tari early Atari. Should you could paint and drawn? Oh, well, there the things that they can do. Now, this these new there's elommal. I love it. No big deal to us. New things he's going to a lot of trouble to make it easier for you. Testing itself. It comes with phone because young. Yeah. I know we'll tell so funny because like back then in the eighties like he looks young. But he also sort of looks like how like it was like he's forty here. Is that what it is? Yeah. But he's probably not forty. He's probably thirty. But he looks forty people used to Schilder. Yeah. Shit, nutrition and bad vitamins, and the doctors didn't know anything. Yeah. And. And he's sort of gray. You don't know what it, you know? No exercise. Well, he's although. Yeah, those guys it is crazy. It's also you look at old movies. And you're like they're like, it's an old old movies where you're like Cary Grant, or something you're like he's playing like the young Basser. And he's like he looks like fucking sixty and maybe is sixty or maybe it's just like huge, bugging smoking and drinking and look like, but he did not look good. I'm still a bachelor. Yeah. There was no health back. Then no one was healthy. No, one took yoga classes or more weight. Nobody across fit. There was like I'm smoking light cigarettes today, we played some clips from Spartacus Douglas like like, you think like a Roman soldiers. Areas he guy who like probably never worked out of data's life. No. And he's holding this looks like plastic sore sore, look so light you could tell he still just sort of like bring it down. Yeah. Those old school bodies old school body weight lifters or like, yeah, he's not everything about them. But I think he was forty when they made this movie. I think we looked it up. Yeah. Did you think he was again, you never know? How old like how old is he supposed to be here? Yeah. You never know. But he looks old. Yeah. He's got that looks like it'd be sixty arm left hand corner. Yeah. That that. Now, the rock remade Spartak is right now. It would look a little different. Yeah. Well, he's like thin from cigarettes. Yeah. Like, that's the extent of a workout like L everything the Corning, I know shit used to be so put it gets people builds in care. He's. He's tan though. Yeah. His legs. Yeah. Because never done a squat as fucking life. I don't know if they knew what squats word didn't they didn't have you gone back and looked to like what fitness like the guys who were indeffinite like what they were doing. Yeah. I mean, I I'm genuinely asking I'm like, I don't know what they were doing for. They were just like fucking eaten riots. I'm suming. Well, there was just very few of them. There's bodybuilders back then. But the numbers were so miniscule in comparison today like you can go to any gym today. Like, you go to Equinoxe since filled with Jack people and women with giant butts and guys a big chests? See that's all real shit. That's a great workout right there. Yeah. They're hanging from those bars and doing they're still doing like doing circuit training shit right there. Right. But they're, but they're visiting like high school kids though. Yeah. This looks like yeah. They look very young. That's all legit. Yeah. But how old were they they were eighteen. There was no one who is forty who's doing that. No. You go to the gym today. You'll see like guys are in their fifties. Or jacked? Yeah. Man. Yes. A different world that that looks fun Hayman, I fucking love your show. This show is hilarious. Thanks, man. And the character the animation looks like you has your lips in your does it. It's really weird. It's like it looks like you without looking like you. You know what I'm saying? It's like they captured it. Yeah. It's weird. It's somewhat posted. It was right before the show came out this year. So it was like so impulsive like Japanese make we make our cartoons cuter. Americans. Let's make our characters ugly as fuck impossible. And it's and it's my it's me as its big now. This means a little kid. I was like that's just like I was like. That's exactly what I look like, it's it's a Larry. Because it looks like you without looking like you. Yes, there's a real gift to that. When people figure out how to capture the perfect caricature. It's weird that we and we give them even when we even if it's like we we try to like when we have new characters. We'll just give them pictures of the people that are playing them. And just let them find that version of them. And even when we don't will give people references because there's something about capturing a real person that makes it specific in a way that you're like, wow. Do everybody can draw just like draw whoever which does work, but still there's something about like being like now, we wanna guy looks like Rogan like they'll they'll get that essence that rate something feels more real. It's so weird. But they're great. We had a killer team of people designing all those characters. What I love about your show is well like a lot of things about it. But one of the things I love about is that you really can only do that on Netflix. Yeah. It's just like there's. It's so unharvested. Yes. It's just is just wild and hilarious. And there's no boundaries to it. It's one of the more amazing things about something. Like, Netflix is that there's just you could do whatever you can do whatever you can do whatever length you want. You can do you can say whatever you want. You have no advertisers who you're either supporting or in competition with Russia. We can mention brands they don't really care about that. They don't care. There's no a-. You know, when you're network TV. It's like you gotta get an act break. You got the first act test to be eight minutes second has to be about bub-bubba. And even when there's there's more flexibility now, but they, but also most importantly, they just basically, let us do whatever. The fuck we want. That's a main. Yeah. Day. They've been very good partners creative. Have you done stand up special with them? No, I did one special years ago for comedy central. Did you just you're just came out? Just how was how it was. How was the experience? It was wo does the second one. I've done three with them one with them in two thousand five longtime go way back in the day. And then I did one two years ago, and this they're fucking amazing bother you at all. No, they just leave you on they go. You're funny. Yeah. You want to do a special? Yeah. Okay. Go ahead. Yeah. That's kind of thing. And there. Like, you've proven that. You can do your thing. We're not going to get in the way. And I think they realize like, oh, we don't get in the way we have less work to do. And if they find someone like you that is a funny. I they just they know you're going to try your best. Yeah. Yeah. Like, you're. You're gonna wanna generally a money grab. Yeah. I mean, it's like you wanna go. You wanna go fucking do it and do it. Well, and you know that everybody's going to see it. That's the thing with them right now as you're like, I don't know about you. But it's like I just want if I'm gonna spend a lot of time making something I want the most amount of possible eyeballs that I can get. Yeah. And that's what they do. Well, especially for comedy special. There's really no other game in town. I mean, I've had friends that did something on HBO and a Mike. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And. If it doesn't air if you don't see it that night. There's some streaming services. I'm no this HBO go. But yeah, I would love to see the numbers. I many people are actually using those numbers across the board. But it is now just feels like we were because we went out we went out wide with the show. We had a couple of different offers, and Netflix just seem like the place. Whereas like, they weren't gonna creatively fuck with us. And they were an everyone was going to have a chance to see it. And we're going to get like kids like we're gonna get anyone like we have like thirteen year old twelve thirteen year old kids watching the show. Whoa. Which just which is. Yeah. Because it's fucking dirty. Yeah. It gets pretty dirty. Yeah. But I love that the masturbation demon. Arm on monster. Your voice. Yeah. Yeah. Yes. That was we got the Andrew was like my partners on an Andrew Goldberg. Mark levin. Jen flag. We're like they were talking about it. Because Mark and Jen of a kid who's was around that age when we started doing it. There's time about hormones and the all that shit, and they're like, we should have a hormone monster. And then they're like, yeah. It should just be a hormone monster. And then Andrew called me is like we're thinking about doing like, a hormone monster. And I just immediately was just like tells you engine, and it just became it was like, okay, got it. All right. We got him. We got him fucking lockdown. And it is. I mean, we have those we all have those things, you know, sometimes they get integrated. Sometimes they don't well. It's I just love that the this like what you see in south park. And what you see in a Bill Burr show efforts for family does things you can do in an animated show that are physically impossible in any other form. And it's amazing. Yeah. It's an amazing format especially for I think. For us like for if you're a especially if you're like, a comedy brain that doesn't necessarily come straight out of like classic sitcom writing that what you have other weird ways of getting into something, and you want to be able to personify it and like animation just allows you to do. And also allows you to fuck in have about like, you couldn't do live action stuff with the kit with kids the way, we have or you just it's just too uncomfortable. But but you see in an animation you can get away. Like, all right. Let's have the statue of liberty talk to that girl. And let's have this hormone monster in this season. It would be unethical would if you had children actors have you ever worked with kid actors you little bit. Yeah. I only did it once I did the show called hardball. And there was a little kid who was like a bat boy. And it was a little girl was on the show and they were both like early teens like thirteen fourteen and it was weird a fell we're. Because everyone else's adults. And they would swear and say fucked up you have to look over your shoulder. If the kids around you say something crazy I had to deal with a kid. I was on the show called the league. And we had a I had a son on the show who was you know, aged up every year. But by the last, you know, seasons four five he was like from like seven to like nine, and it was crazy because we were doing some crazy shit. And there's a scene where he's like eating ice chips out of a urinal. Urinal cookies or something like that. And it was like, and it was fun. It was a clean. We made. Sure, it was all good. But still unlike we had him doing some fucked up shit, and you're like, all right, and the mom was there, the mom was cool with all of it. But it was like it wasn't just like even a sitcom or it's like we're gonna have a little maybe someone onset saying something weird. Like we had in this kid doing some weird shit. And it was like, okay. I hope this is. All right. What year? Did you get in show business? How old was I was like twenty graduate started doing open mics like oh, two twenty three twenty four. Yeah. That's good year. That's perfect year. You're you're a young adult young adult. Yeah. What about you? I was twenty one. Yeah. Young adult. Yeah. Which I I was like and it took awhile to like get it all rolling. But it was it was I do think the early. I mean, there are a few people who seem to start young who were okay. But it's tough, man. I've never met one. Yeah. They're all crazy row. Have you met Seth Rogan at all of you dealt with Seth Seth when he he was on freaks and geeks when he was like sixteen maybe that was the cutoff age. Yes. The age we could pull it off. Enough awkward uncomfortable. Actual years adult. He also had like a few years on that show. And then that show got cancelled. And he liked didn't have much of a like there were few lean years there. There's probably good for your. I think it like made him a regular human being is. I'm trying to think there were no kids on NewsRadio right there. Were there any lifetime? There were there like act there. No, they're all. They're all adults. Yes. All except Andy, dick, and just whatever he is. Yeah. Have you had him on recent years? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Random him at the comedy store the day. He will not the other day. He's not he's banned. Now Z banning he licked Earl Skakel's face, and she's just there's drunk Andy. And when drunk Andy's around, you just gotta get the fuck out of that. You know, you can tell the difference two different guys. Very aggressive. Yeah. Gets like bangs into car window. Oh, no. It's drunk indie. Yeah. And and sober, and he's a fucking sweeter, wonderful guy. And so funny, man. He's a hilarious guy. We we did scenes together where we had to do the take five six times because I couldn't stay straight kept cracking while you kids, stay straight with any. Yeah. But he is he is he's so fun. But I had I did a. I did a early one of my first things I did of like a voice on American dad. And I did they had me do Andy, dick. And I was so psyched to get a gig in. I mean, I was like I'm not my favorite thing is not doing other comedians. Like, there's some weird kind of code that. I don't know what. Yeah. You know what I mean? Dick, dick. I try not to talk shit about comedian. It just it's like, I don't know why it's like by did it it was one of my first gigs. It was like I'll cool. I gotta be on American dad. I did Andy dick. I it was looking back. I would not probably do it. Now where you know, do it over the top. I don't know. I just didn't. I don't know. Isn't handy over the top. You know what? I mean. Like, yeah. I did not mean it was not been like to go fuck and get Andy, dick. But anyway, when I saw him when I since then I've seen him over the years, and I like him, and I think he when he's sober. He's like, you know, I saw your impression of me. And he's like, and he's kind of it's funny. You know, and and then I've seen him drunk and he's like, Sal. You know, it's a very different. It's a very different version of it. And I'm like, but you know, but I get it, man. If someone did a fucking impression on me on some animated shot. I don't know. I probably I'm like now, I'll do the impression of me. I'll let me let me control my narrative here. I think you gotta take your lumps. I guess. So if you dishing them out, you gotta take your lumps yak. Yeah. Well, because then he's done it, you know, but he'd go back and watch Stiller the Ciller show. He's funny shit. But that was a great show people forgot about the Steelers show. Yeah. That was a fucking great jazz him Odin, Kirk Janine, Groff flow Stiller bunch. I think appetite Rhode Island. It was a crazy group that that's midnight. And or maybe her ninety to ninety it had to be pre NewsRadio. I think he was previously. When is when is NewsRadio ninety four. Did you come verse as out here and get NewsRadio? How old are you can get NewsRadio twenty seven. Something else. I was on a show called hardball when I was twenty six and it was cancelled. Yeah. It was a baseball sitcoms. Terrible. Baseball said come on FOX. Yeah. I did with the little guy. Yeah. Yeah. That that did like six episodes in the got cancelled. And I was ready to move back to New York. I hated it out here. But I got a lease on an apartment to stay here for a year. Like, I have this place. I bought a couch about a TV. All I got radio goes, man. I remember I got a stereo you like this is a six CD changer. I'm not about to fucking move across country anywhere. You remember that? There was like, oh, you can put so many CD's has fucking amazing. Yeah. You have people over and would go random on you. Let it do random felt like a boss. Yeah. Then there are people had like hundred CD changer. Oh, yeah. Tower stack the tower though, CDs in it, I just opened up my I just opened up my cabinet with all my DVD's and like all that shit, which I haven't looked at in. I haven't looked at in like five six years. I still have a stack of VHS tapes that I won't throw away. Yeah. There's some of them. I dislike I don't think. I can get this anywhere. Do you still have a VHS player? Yes. Really have one. Yeah. Whoa. I haven't even touched it. I'm curious five years haven't even touched it have you gone back. And did you have your camera? I just went back and digitize the bunch of like stuff that I shot on like, you know, my little DV stuff. You know, what I haven't done that? And I don't even gonna I just feel like like any time. I let it go on. Inclined to do that today because everything is everyone's taking photos of everything and video of everything. And I just feel I don't have time to look at them. Like if I went and looked into my iphone show from like seventy eight years ago, just started going through all the pictures of the only thing I keep his photos of my kids. Keep those I keep photos of your kids to thank you, very kind of you. I'll go to you. I need backup got other than that. That's it. Like, what am I going to do? Well, it's like we're I feel like we're in a I feel like I have a goldfish brain like I feel like I just like swim and five minutes later. It's gone. You know what I mean? And I feel like I am constantly in that space. And I feel like we we record all this shit. And then we don't really look back, maybe some people look back. But I I'm the same way. I think we're inundate were over run by information. Let's I I don't think our brains are even remotely capable processing the amount of raw data the company if you check your Google news feed, then you check your Twitter feed. And then, you know, people send me things in Email and check those out. I don't I don't have time. I don't have the time or the storage. It's just it goes in and it goes out. Yeah. I have. Well, I have I just was like I use the Google app on my phone search shit, and I'll go on there. But now Google's got like stories, they if thinks I'm going to be interested in and then I'll be like, oh fuck, I guess, I gotta look whatever's going on and then like third. Thirty minutes later. I'm like, why did I go to Google? We'll see what was I going in there for. That's my toilet time. Yes. I'm taking a dump open that app up and the next thing. No, my legs are numb totally like limping out of the bathroom with the weird. Red IMF imprint impressions on like, right? Above your knee. And it doesn't make any sense. It's like I didn't get anything out of that thing. I feel like if you have discipline. If you could avoid that the good stories will come to you. Yes. The ones that you need to hear about like, dude, if you fucking heard about happen to and like, okay. And then you hear about yes, I it is or because I also there was a period of time where I was like not reading the news. I was parsing. I was piecing together. The news based off of people's Twitter jokes. Okay. I'm gonna put the math together. I think like, you know, I think there's been a hurricane somewhere, but I feel like my downtime. My pro I'm I think I'm scared of having actual downtime because when I have actual downtime. I spent so much time in some iphone that and that stresses me out. So like if I'm working, I don't have time to be looking at my phone. And then I'm like just were you know, what I mean? But it's and it's I'm scared of like downtime. Yeah. Downtime and phone time. They are very bad for you. It's it's not healthy. It's not normal. It's on a normal interaction and a few like looking at shit that you're freaking out about that has an like, I was I was freaking out today about the what's going on in Portland. There's all these antiga riots that are happening, and they're blocking traffic really and people are trying to drive to their job and the anti fa people are telling them go, right? We're close. Mistreat off they got like masks on shit, and the Portland mayor apparently is not doing anything about it. And they're this stress. Mash, some the banging on some dude's car because he refused to fucking go. Right. He wanted to go straight through St Louis. They were literally directing traffic, and there's all these videos of where people are freaking out because Portland is just it's a great city. It's fun. So overly progressive that you have this section of super far left maniacs. That are that have gathered and found a cause. And now they're they've decided that they're going to and these are white people screaming out fuck white people. The whole thing is so crazy. It's like it's really misguided. I just wanna eat delicious food in Portland. I just want to eat like fresh food. Good place for comedy too. It is fun. It's great comedy town there so town. Yeah. So it's just you know, when you get a town of millions of people. You're going to have a fucking few thousand assholes. There's just no way around that. Yeah. Everywhere. I've gone see. Yeah. Yeah. And that the Pacific northwest is interesting just like I found the homeless vibes in Portland Seattle. And San Francisco it's intense right now Seattle or rather San Francisco has a new app that you can locate human shit on to alert the health department. It's like a crap only seven Cisco. There's like it's a start up. Show. We have a giant problem over there. Dude. It's intense man is they they got to liberal. They let to they were just to open minded with the homeless folks fuck, and these these people just shitting openly shitting in the gutter look at that. There's the poop map. Oh, I like that the coloring I wonder when they discovered there like we can do varying levels. What is that area? That's seems to be covered. Is it like that's downtown embarcadero. Like right off the mission shit. Fuck look shit there. That's the poop area. That is crazy like all those corners this human shit, man. That is and that's not an exaggeration. I was there. My friend Jake put it up on his Instagram a guy with his pants down just sprang shit out of his ass into the street. He was standing on the sidewalk adds to the street, just spraying dude. I mean, I do that. But that's like I, but I do it for its art. It's my art. You know what I mean? And it's for leisure. I've got to do something to take my shoes public. Have you ever had a public shooting not on purpose? Yeah. A couple of times. But I mean, I kept it in like inside my clothes. I shit my pants. I was thinking about I was coming in here being like to any like, I'm like, I don't do a mayor. I was like what did I ever do? Credit was already did karate until I was like seven, and I did it. And I like I remember being I was in a class with a bunch of cops in my town. They had like an self defense class, and I was friends with like a cop and Susan come take the karate class meal. Sure, we going to take it, and it was and I'm aware in the like the key. And it's fucking, you know, six or just kept nodding it, you know, what I mean? You're just like. And I kept nodding it, and then I go to class, and I'd like I'd eaten fettuccini Alfredo. I was fucking. I'm sitting there, and I'm like taking the class to my little kicks. And then I'm like, I gotta go to the bathroom and get to the bathroom, and I can't untie. Stew many nuts. And I just I'm six I just fuck in spray diarrhea down my down, my ghee. And then like go back to class. Oh, I made in like all these yet. Hey. Little fuck. And I was like I think that's the last time. I took karate that was the end of my mixed martial arts career. Yeah. That could be a problem have you ever fought so hard that you like lose like like Maher that happened like with please. Yeah. Like marriage have done that inside the octagon for sure. Yeah. There's actually a new rule in some athletic commissions. They stop a fight just out for hygiene concerns. Yeah. Someone shits themselves shirt. But it's happened many times. Yeah. Because you think if you've got an open wound, and you got shooting there's like some real issues, there's some real duty duty issues. They're problem hawk. And there was there was that marathon runner lost her like, yeah. That's happened. A bunch of times apparently marathon running shit themselves. All the time just keep running. And I'm now see I'm not that. Are you that way? Isn't it? Like, you'll push like, I'm like, I would never push myself to that point where I'm like. Yeah. Push myself really depends on what it meant to me. I mean, if I if I had some deep emotional reason to finish this maratho-. Yeah. My dad died, right? You know what I mean? So. Charles Burton Ari run marathons, right? I don't think have run a marathon. His dad did his dad ran a marathon is dad is a hall cost survivor in his eighties. And you ran a six hour marathon. And the we were telling Bert there's no fucking way you're going to beat are his dad. Our debts eighties. Bert. You're fat. Fuck did. He beat him by like a half hour. Bert didn't like five hours. Dad was like seventies. Eighties running a marathon eighties. Yeah. Eighty two you can survive the holocaust, man. What's a fucking marathon you have in. Well, he was also in these Rayleigh army his off old dude will. Yeah. But you look at our you're like, I could see it's like there's that. There's that version of Julich that skinny Jew that can run a marathon guy by that. Yeah. It's like I could see that. Well, when we started doing this fitness thing. Ari had you know, we have the sober October thing. And then there's this fitness challenge attached to it and Ari literally hadn't worked out at all in. I think he said ten years I think ten years ago he was taking jujitsu with me does the last time. He did any exercise at all. How did he? How's he doing doing great? He's in second place right now. He's right behind my. It is a game of genetics on some level. Right. Just a game of will. Yeah. Yeah. Because this thing this thing that we're using all it does is measure your heart rate. So if you're just willing to keep your heart rate L. Elevated in push yourself. Right. It just depends on what is your level of competition. And you're like that you wanna fuck and. Yeah. And what is your house is your will? That's really what it is. Is there anything to it? If it's like if you have an exercise in ten years, and you all of a sudden start to exercise your heart rate goes up naturally because it's like what FOX going on. We're trying to think that like maybe he's so fucking out of shape that he's just like walking as our rates pin? But I don't think so, but see this thing is very flawed. This fucking this thing that we have because it gives you the same amount of points for eighty percent of your heart rate as it does for ninety. So for the first day. I was like I'm gonna bury these motherfucking peg my heart rate at ninety four like thirty five minutes. I was like I'm just gonna leave them in the, duh. Yeah. Can't keep up. And then I found out that all you have to just keep it at eighty which is like one hundred and forty three beats per minute. Which is easy you'd walk and talk you'll get one forty-three if you if you're on an elliptical machine, you can have a full on conversation. No problem at one hundred and forty three beat right, right? So it's flawed. It's it's a little flawed. And there's that difference between eighty and ninety percent where you're like, you're getting an extra burn. It's the matter of the sheer time you put in. That's that's what's separating everybody in this little challenge that Ari will put in two and a half hours like he will watch a movie and just keep his heart rate peg one hundred and forty. Three hundred forty six beats a minute for two and a half Chelsea wants to fuck a beat you guys want to win and he wants and he's been talking match shit about it. I was I was I was at first I was like, you know, what the contest is. So fucking stupid. There's no real like steaks like there's nothing. We haven't established. What happens to the loser? You know, we haven't established what the winner gets other than a belt we have a bell. So mad over belt. Like a WWE. You're getting one made. That's so funny. But it's just it doesn't that's all just wanting to be your friends. Yes. But in for a while like fuck, I'm just gonna do my normal workout. If they beat me, they beat me. And then I thought about it. I was like can't let that happen. So I started rampant it up. I decided over the last couple of days took three days off too because I had to go to Vegas and had to work. And then I decided yesterday I'm gonna fuck these guys up so yesterday today, I've been hitting it hard. I did three and a half hours today. Yeah. That's crazy. You feel good. How great. Yeah. I mean. Yeah. And and physically do you feel different? Yeah. Do you do or do not feel different like being completely sober? Well, I'm definitely high as fuck from all this running. Yeah. There's no doubt about that. That's real like runner's high is legit. Like if you run for two hours, and then of rockfalls and your car from the sky, but guess I lost my car, right? It's so silly. It's and I get the same way from yoga. Yes. Silly is a silliness to you. Yeah. I I hate running so much. I fucking hate it. I'd rather go like I started playing soccer again soccer's. Great. Yeah. We serious, aerobic workout. That's intense. Like, I finish that. My problem is I turn bright red as soon as I do anything with any. And I'm like the color like a deep maroon and I'm like, but it's great. But I need I need a game attached to it. I can't just run. That's why jujitsu is so good for me. That's why I love about your jitsu. You're doing something. Yeah. He's trying to you know, doing a martial art. And yes, it's exhausting, and you get a great workout in while you're having fun beating the shit outta somebody token people. Yeah. Never mind. That's my uncle play soccer and then slightly injure myself. Now, I'm I'm like as I'm getting older. It's like every time. I do it. I do something fuck up my body. He definitely can do that. You know, we have here. That's amazing. We have this HTC vibe, it's a virtual reality headset. And there's a boxing game. Headset on and you're you're standing see boxing gloves in front of you. And this dude in front of you. Right. It looks really good throw punches and his head get that aerobic workout without. Yeah. Pounding fucking. He hits. You you. See sparks, really, boom. Like you hit you. You don't feel anything. But you it makes you nervous like Dami got me. Yeah. I've done rounds. Where you've you fight these people, and you get exhausted boxing seems to be crazy, aerobic workout. It's great. Yeah. Getting hit in the head things. Fucking terrible. You though, it's so bad for you. Yeah. Man. I can't I've I've never been. I've been so averse to that shit. I was talking to Louis about that. Because he was boxing for a while. And it was like, I love sparring are you'll your sparring. He goes. Yeah. I go how often he sparring. And he's like you spun quite a bit. I could do I go. I know you're having a good time. But you have to understand there. There's real consequences to this. You're getting in car accidents constantly you're getting hit. You're getting hit in the head like that. Counts. And you're doing it when you're forty eight years old like this and your fat like so you not moving a lot. And you don't got great head shed. And like, your your muscles aren't there to like, take whatever that this real cleanses getting how often do you do that? I don't do that at all you never get hit in the head. No. I don't do it at all. No, no, I stopped doing it a long time ago. Just it's I hit the bag. I'll hit pads, right? I'll light Spar with someone who I know. I won't hit them. And they won't we touch each other. It'd be like like what about you? Yeah. What about all different just choking bars and stuff like that? Not there's no there's no hitting each other no hitting in the head is fun. It's fun. It's fun to hit people. It's fun to not get hit. It feels good hit shot and give one back, but the consequences are real. And I see too much of it. I see I see this slow degrading of your cognitive ability and seen it in too many people. What do you think what do you think anything's going to happen with football? Do you think it's good? Are they going to is going to like, I think people are going to wise up? I fighting is way better for you than football. And I think fighting's Tara before you football's the worst. Yes, they're running at each other full clip and slamming each other all day, it's like driving off a cliff constantly over and over and over again fucking nuts. We have a friend and they have a kid who's in highschool who has severe depression from them football. He's all fucked up from football. And they can't believe that it happened so fast. I would go. How long has he been playing for a couple of years? He's been getting smashed in the head for years because it's just like you you watch like a football practice. Those are just like that. Both listen, I'm less and less and now, I think they're finally realizing. But like when we were growing up all my buddies put football like every drill was like all right standing circle. And let's have these dudes fuck and run into each other beat over with the finding out. Now, they're getting hit in the body is. As bad as getting hit in the head. Really? Yeah. Because when he gets slammed in the body your head snaps back, and you bring goes wish wish inside your fucking skull. And it's you think that concussions only come from getting a head injury. That's not the case they're finding the people get concussions from getting hit in the body. So this is pure ignorance in boxing, or whatever. When a guy gets knocked out. Yeah, he's getting that's a concussion, right? Oh, yeah. Most of the time. Yeah. Yeah. Until those guys are just getting there getting concussions all the time. Yeah. Yeah. And they get concussions even when they win. Sometimes like there's a guy named Joe Volta Leany. He's been on the show before he's a world championship kickboxer. He had to retire. After who won the title. He won the fight. And then afterwards his head injury was so severe he couldn't look at the light from a charger from a phone a phone charger. He had to be in total darkness for months at a time for weeks at a time rather. And what saved him was actually CBD? Oil. Really? Yeah. CBD oils pretty good at reducing inflammations pretty rattled. And it's a fact and that that brought it all down for them. I haven't been I haven't tried CD over. Yeah. It's really good for pain and stuff like that. It's great for pain. It's great for anxiety and one of the more important things. It doesn't fuck with you like cognitively. Yeah. It doesn't make you high. It's not right. Right. So you can do it and just go do stuff, but it alleviates Zayed's calms you down. They think that some anxiety may coincide with inflammation. Oh, that makes sense. Yeah. Like, physical inflammation that. Yeah. So what makes the oil drops oil drops? It's also good for just your just your overall euro whole system, your your gut biomass. It's good for everything. Yeah. It's I've just been smoking wait forever. That's getting to that helps I went to I went to burning man this year. Oh and did. Had just a fucking wild time of. 'cause I I know you've talked about it. I'd never done acid before. I did ask for the first time. I wasn't. It was fascinating. I've I've done mushrooms like somewhat regularly for most of my adult life, like not not crazy amounts. But like, you know, once a year, depending on you know, and always loved it. I'm like, I was like if I were left with one thing might be that one because I like the warmth like the organic, the giggles, the warmth, and like everything love everybody a love everybody. And it is like what I you know, when people talk about like what ecstasy was I was like, oh that's mushrooms. Let you just feel giggling and warm and connected. But I was like, you know, what we're going to. I'm going to burning man couple buddies were like I've I've done this acid before. And I haven't read the Michael pollen book. But I was like enough there's enough to know you've been talking about it. There's enough around there that I'm like, I'm ready like because I remember in my late twenty someone trying to buy mushrooms, and they're like I got asked. And I was like, I I'm not gonna do it. Like, I, you know, at least when we were kids there was that fear that like you knew acid, you could fry your brain for you never come back. Right. And I don't know if that was the kind of acid people were doing or for just people were doing a ton of it. They think now what that is. It's it's people that are schizophrenic, right? And there's a certain percentage of the population. Like they were trying to make correlation between marijuana use schizophrenia that causes schizophrenia. But they found out that the numbers of the same as the general population. The numbers of people who use marijuana becomes schizophrenic is the same numbers of just you take a hundred people there's going to be one of them. That's going to be schizophrenia, whatever the number is what it is. One percent or higher share? And the there's they think though that it can exacerbate the situation, and it can actually bring it on like say, maybe if someone has maybe sort of a manageable because kits Affreux Neha exists like many diseases to on a spectrum shore, you know, this really bad cancer and his people have a mild cancer. They get over well with schizophrenics if they do acid or if they do even edible marijuana apparently can bring it on him. And I don't think because frantic. But anytime I thought I feel like I am. I can't either I can't like arms like immediately. Like the thing is a little you gotta do baby doses. That's the king. The the key with edible marijuana is great at about ten to twenty milligrams. Yeah. Then you get to that Joey Diaz level where he's doing five hundred thousand. Boy, he's he's he's not. But even he quit. He quit edibles. Really? Yeah. He quit. I can't. I just like early on. I was like I tried that Ables. And I just remember I remember I remember being in Austin. I don't know if it was south by or whatever and I had like a cookie like a little bit of it was earlier much earlier than now how regulated things are and I ate a little bit and like went back to my hotel room. And I was like I can't even look I was like I can't look at the screen, and I just like walk the streets went to the city the capital of the state caverns looked at the porch to the former governors of Texas, and then was like got like sober ish. And then my buddies like, we're going to a gun range and. I was like I'm not firing a gun. But I'll just like I was like this was like. It was like eight hours later, and I'm still like a mess. But I, but but I was like, you know, what I'm going to burning man, I'm gonna try acid. I went with my buddy was my college. Roommate neither us had done it before a guide given it to us who I was like I've done this asset. I know how to do it. He's like I recommend in taking some assassin and listening to classical music and eating fruit. That was his and I was like all right. I was like listen to classical music and eat fruit. Yeah. And I was like I like classical music, and I like fruit. So this sounds great. I was like we're out in the fucking desert, and we eat it on our last day. And have you been burning that no, I I thought it was I was kind of blown away. I found it. I've I've enjoyed it. Very very, much luck and weird. I mean, it's sure, but it's I don't know it was like people executing whatever they're doing incredibly. Well, and there's a lot of different versions of it and stuff, but it's kind of there's a lot of pranksters there. Like, there's it's actually not. There's a hippy dippy quality to it. But then there's some real people kind of fucking with people in a fun way that I got a kick out of. But we took the to acid at like, I don't know four and we start driving around the desert. You know, you're everyone's on bikes you're on a bike driving around. Did you have to wear a mask? No, the the dust was fine. It was cool. And like we start kind of feeling it. And I I've had visuals on mushrooms before. But this all of a sudden like the melting of everything started to set in and the have you done acid in the desert before no never in the desert. It's it's a good good place. It's a good place for it just because like visually. What's happening is like is pretty interesting like we went we driving around on bikes, and we see these immediately then like some couples like can you take a picture of us as we like try to do a duo yoga pose with the sunset. I'm like, okay. I'm trying to. Deal. My camera. You know what I'm eating? Okay. I think this is what you want. You know, then we drive away from there. And they're these like porn stars who are wanted pictures of or taking pictures themselves. And I was like we're like, you know, we're in the burning man's spirit of like, we'll give them the gift of our music, and like they don't want. They're not they don't want. I'm not even hitting nothing. I'm just like driving around. We've got our little like, you know, our little bluetooth speaker playing classical music, and they don't give a fuck. They don't want any of it. And then we go and sit and and we're just now starting to peak right at sunset in the desert. And it's like it was it was like, oh, this feels like some version of what heaven feels like, you know, like, we're the the sky the colors in the sky or unbelievable. And the all of a sudden all the desert all the sand. You know this. It's like this real fine alkaline dust, and it's like you feel like you're seeing some really grid work. You know, I don't know if you have that feeling where you're like. Oh, I can feel like I'm seeing some underlying dynamics of the structural stuff. I've seen them on mushrooms. Yeah. Yeah. Where it feels like e you your witness to the pattern of thickness like there's some sort of. Yeah. The structure of things. Yeah. And that's what it felt like you were like, you're looking at this like this crazy here. Yes. You're you're seeing the the sand this very fine light sand with the really read mountains, and then the blue really Chris blue sky with with the the white clouds on. And it felt like you were like, oh, I'm seeing some structural shit. That's going on. It's it was quite and we're listening to this guy. Eric sativa, a classical musician and eating cherries. Pretty fucking sweet that's cool. That you followed it to t- you want with the fruit and. Let's just have it. You know what? And I think classical music is. But it was interesting because I I didn't. So then so then the sun sets, and it's like what even at the height of it. It didn't feel warm like mushrooms have felt if felt like co. Co clinical clinical exactly that's exactly the worry about that. It's very interesting that you said he took it riding bikes to because that's a lot of ways in Oman to Albert Hoffman. That's how he found out about it. You know, he synthesized LSD and got it in his skin when he was working with it. And then wrote is bike home and on the bike ride home realized oh, my God of whoa can tripping balls here without even knowing what tripping. I mean, he he knew something was going on eight it. I mean, he may. I believe correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe the initial reason for creating LSD I think they were they were trying to come up with a drug to induce labor. I'm pretty sure that was the original. I think that's what they were working on and in the process, synthesized, LSD and LSD. As a compound in. It's one of those unbelievably potent compounds where someone I think it was kind of described it as the the power to weight ratio is so huge that it's like if you had one aunt that dismantled the statue of liberty in thirty minutes. Like, that's how that's how potent LSD is. Yeah. Well, I mean, I took it actually. So the Empire State building. She's I took a I took a a responsible amount. Like, I was like I don't need to like lose my mind here. Only microdosing it. Yeah. I've only well one one time a doubled. The microbe is still it was a small dose it. But it was enough to just like. I had planned the synthesis of the compound when the intention of obtaining circulatory and respiratory stimulant. Hoffman wrote the new stub since however arose, no special interest in our pharmacologic, pharmacologists, and physicians testing was therefore discontinued. Why did I think? Said twenty fifth attempt aptly named LSD twenty-five not knowing he was not after like psychedelic drug because. No, I don't believe. So does Ford twenty pm y'all look at it. Go down so Larrea. Yeah. He does himself before twenty. Yeah. Intense from six to eight PM during that time, he rode home on his bicycle fac. It's best it feels great. So the so we sort of peaking around sunset, and it's like it feels like I'm with my buddy of twenty years. I've known him since college we've gone through our lives together. And there's a thing when you eat when you trip where you're like that space time continuum thing. There's like it feels less linear time where you're like. I'm having thoughts that I had twenty years ago. And I'm having them today. And I'm going to have them in twenty years in like where this the linear nature of all this feels a little less, you know, and I'm with my buddies been like a witness to my life. You know? So we're having this great large conversation about our lives and all that shit and the sunsetting it's beautiful, and then it gets dark, and it's like all right? Let's go watch the man burn. Now. Like, you know that at burning man, everybody gathered seventy thousand people gather, you go to this big central area where the man who's been sitting there for seven. Days is an there's like a crazy fire starters show fireworks, go off. And then you burn this like thirty foot man, and it's dark and it's night. And and it's like it was the other side it felt like heaven and hell like where you're all of a sudden. And that's where I felt like it was weird. Because like that's where I felt the clinical thing where I'm like, I feel sort of high. But I now feel actually quite in aware, we're quite sober. And I felt like I'm witnessing these things, and I feel removed from them in a way that when you're I feel like when you're on mushrooms, in some way, you're like you feel kind of inside of the the flow of of of of nature, and but I was also like it's the end by the time the end of burning man like there are people there all week and building it and putting all the stuff together an artist, it's interesting. And then like there is definitely of a section of burning man, which is like superwealthy. People showing up for like debauchery, and and like to be around models who are nearly naked. And it's like, and that's when and you look around and and aesthetic of burning men has like somewhere between like Mad Max game of thrones. And tron. It somewhere in that space, which is fucking RAD. But then when you're kind of on acid, and you're kind of looking around, and I had this feeling of like the richer here to collect their spoils. You don't have these Di think that having the great experience of seeing the sky in the desert and all the beauty where you're like. Wow. This is amazing. And then when you have something your fire, and then on top of that, you have a giant group of people seemed, and then you realize there's not really a lot of law enforcement here. Like, this seems like it'd be completely chaotic. Yeah. It's and it is like the fire itself is protected because I think someone ran into the fire last year. I'd right. Yeah. For and killed himself ran right in that fire. This year was like this year was pretty well. Regulated like because we had seen a couple of nights before at sunrise. There was like, you know, they have all this. It's what I found too. It was like the kind of the duality of at all like Burnham in feels very much like there's this like sacred and profane shit all happening together. And it's oftentimes pretty cool and like sunrise a couple mornings earlier there's a twenty foot wood in Dragonfly staff. Machu that someone had Bill, and they are they lighted on, you know, they're just like now we're going to burn it. Like some dude it's been a year. Megan the statue. Now, we're gonna fucking burn it. And so there there were Park Rangers all around it. And so there's no getting inside. They light it on fire, and then the sun rises over to the left. And then you looked I looked up and they're like thirty people parachuting out of the sky. At sunrise. And you're just like what the fuck is going on was it was really cool. I really I enjoyed that. But by the time Saturday rolled around, you know, there is something about fire. That's very primal. And you can feel like there's like there's some pagan quality to it all and it's cool. But it's like you could feel like everybody's like energy kinda getting like little darker and more primal, and and I hit a point rows like all right guys. I got to get out of this like seventy th and I also had a fear of like, I wasn't scared of the fire. I was scared of like I was seated watching I was like I'm scared of trampling. Yeah. That's what I mean. By like, the giant group of people, and then also with a fire, and and then a gathering when when you're dealing with a big gathering. There's always the potential for someone acting out whether they just need a lot of attention, or they go crazy or I mean think about adverse reaction. Psychedelics? Yes. And seventy thousand people the potential for something going haywire is pretty high. Yeah. Wh what I found interesting over the whole week was because I was pretty skeptical. I didn't go in. I went in being like, I want to experience this thing that a lot of people have experienced. I just want to like know what that experience is. But what I've found fascinating is there's there's some law enforcement around there some Rangers around. But there's really no it's pretty an article like there's really very little but in his inside so much. There's actually like some unspoken rules that basically everybody's kinda following which I found kind of fascinating. Where like there's. No, everybody's on bikes. They're crazy. Art cars run around with like fucking shooting fire into the air. There's no there seems to be no like regulatory board being like, let me make sure that the you're crazy thirty foot three tiered iron car is up to slander. Yeah. There seems to be very little of that. And yet it all seems to function pretty smoothly. Like, there's like some unspoken acceptance of certain rules. I'm sure there people freaking out. I know they're people like, but it's mostly people like being like I took too much because I didn't high. Hydrate, and like they go to the medic, and they're like weirdly, I've found it all operating pretty smoothly. But that's when the the the acid then sort of turned bit where I was. There's some darkness here that I want to get away from its I it seems like whenever you have a situation where you've got a bunch of people that wanna do something outside the norm. They wanna get together. And they want experience something that's just their board society. And this is their big break. And it seems like there's there's so much expectations. And there's kind of a code that these people wanna follow and that code is that you know, it's almost like a utopian vision of a better society. Even if it's for only a week or so. Yeah. And I think it works for a week. Like, I don't know if society, I don't know how society would function and like largely lawless. I mean, the biggest rules are like don't put your trash anywhere. Like there's no garbage cans anywhere. Don't p outside like p and a porta potty p and a jug ticket back dump it out because it's like, no, Mark. No leave. No, no, Mark and it works. But I guess it. It works for a week where you're like everybody. Agreed for that week. And then you go back to your life. But like. I don't know. I got a fucking kick out of it like there's and there's you know, there's like we there's one night, you know, they're all these crazy light shows at night, it it becomes like this crazy Tron like light show everywhere. You look at the horizon for as far as you can see is just like people on bikes that are all lit up. Crazy. Art cars crazy pieces of art that are lit up, and it's really wild. But like, you go we, you know, you're right around bikes. And they're all of a sudden, we'd like roll up his area where there's a like a mechanical arm holding these lights that are LED lights that are in the, you know, in a circle and you lie below it. And it's like a light show, you know, but it's this vortex lights. So so everybody's kind of looking up at it. And it's really trippy and fun impairment was like, well, it's a tricky. And I we I laid down. I was like this is red. And then this dude rolls up, my friend sees, you know, those costumes of like those like Taran source Rex like. That they're inflated on the kind of like, you know, you see I do like what individual size things, but they're like it's super weird. So I look at this gun. I'm I start cracking up. And my buddy just took that Toronto source. Wrecks and walked him through the middle of everybody having their quiet trippy moment, you know. So like this transfer. Is it kind of rolls through it just like, you know. You know, he was here before you. You know, it's like it's just kind of fun. It's just like. Everybody's like having their trippy moment. And then it gets fucked up and then a minute later. They're back to the trip moment. You know? I I got a real I got a fucking kick out of. It was weird. Yeah. I don't know if that would work long-term either because you'd have to have resources, right? You have to have water and land, and then who controls the food water and land. I think one of the thing the reason why it works. So well is because it's outside of culture like or outside of civilization, you go to a place and everybody meets their. Yes. Yes. Nobody has an established like dominance or domain overt at all. You just are entering on the same page and talking about this a lot lately like cults never work like there's not a single like one of these wild wild country things or you know, Waco or two guys in what was the one in San Diego with a cut their balls on skate heaven. They never work. They never worked. No one is nailed it. How come no one can put Bernie man's kind of now. Held it. When the way they nailed it is they just do it for a little bit. And then they go back to life. Yeah. And and it's the guy who founded it or is one of passed away this past year. So they think he was in the middle of the burn this year. And but even he it's it's not a cult of personality. Like, I think that's the thing. You know, if you decentralize that and at the center of it is like is fucking man burning is like, I think if you take that element away. I think the problem with cults is they're all there. I mean is there any called that isn't like driven by one central force? It's always a person. It's always a person it always gets fucked up because that person uses it or and it's all run through them. And then if he or she goes away, then it's the next round of that person. Whether it's always playing off of this weird alpha chimpanzee instinct that we have to have like a big daddy the daddy that has all the messages in touch with God or the UFO behind the asteroid or whatever the fuck. It is. There's always this one person. Whether it's Jim Jones, or you know, fill in the blank. Yeah. There's someone who has all the answers. And there's a weird desire that people have to to look to this one person that has all the answers. Yes. It's it's well, it's a tribal thing. It's troubling. And it's specifically if you're someone who gets into a cult, you are searching for something you're searching for some solidity or or something. And and if you've got that person at the middle is like, I got you. Don't worry. I'll give you. I'll give you the way it all works people. Like, oh, thank God, you know. But I was thinking about like Scientology and being like well shit, man. Tom Cruise like. If you can learn to fly helicopter and like four months, maybe it's not so bad Bill Burkett fly a helicopter. He doesn't eat it new Scientology the helicopter instructor. Yeah. But it took them probably a couple of years. I don't think it took them that long. But Bill Burr did fucking. Yeah. Bill Burr is ado likes like figure stuff out. Yeah. He's a really good drummer have you seen him drum? I mean, I know I I think I've seen like a YouTube of it. But I'm talking really good. Yeah. Like he could be in a band. Yeah. But in his cars like he is he is building that truck key is old sixty eight. Yes. Sixty eight four. Yeah. Yeah. That cool. That's got. That's a manual transmission? On the column. It's one of those weird old school ones. We shift the gears like next to the steering ri-. That's how they used to do it. Yeah. I think they call the three on the tree. Oh, yeah. And he'd a fucking loves it. I mean, that's a brain that likes that stuff. Yeah. And likes to like wants to learn to master flying a helicopter. There's a couple there's a couple of improvisers, I know too. Like who were like, I think Tom's middle. Ditch learned five playing my buddy Neil, Casey. I'm like that stuff is a real like hobbyists. Yeah. In that way. My I'm like, I don't care. You don't have any hobbies. I like hiking too good. And I like that's a good exercise. Yeah. My brain wants it my brain wants that an and I do yoga now the hot yoga a regular yoga regular yoga. Did you how you like hot yoga should get? That's fucking sweat. Yeah. It's it's there's there's a study that they just did on it or they're they're in the process of doing it right now at Harvard where they're trying to find out whether this you can get similar results to sauna that you get from hot yoga because they think it's a similar situation. That's with what's called cytokines or heat shock proteins. And what would they showed in these these sauna? Studies is that twenty minutes a day four times a week decreased all cause mortality by forty percent off. Call all cause mar tally, meaning heart attack, stroke cancer. From just sweating it out your body reacts to that extreme heat when it's believed the number would have Ron essay was at one eight. Eighty thinks she said one eight one hundred eighty degrees. One seventy one eighty something something like that one seventy or one eight and you do that for twenty minutes four times a week. And it's there's a radical decreasing of your just your overall, systemic inflammation because of that. And that's getting it that hot McHugh lesson flame. 'cause we got it out of our system there your body reacts to it body reacts to that heat and produces these heat shock proteins and these heat shock proteins, apparently just fantastic at decreasing inflammation, all throughout your body. I gotta figure that I'm all base for me is like turning red. Yeah. This one here fucking love it. I use it all the time almost every day. You just sweat it out. Go in there. Frank that bitch. And I found that air pods. You can put air pods, and they don't overheat your phone will overheat. Yeah. So you can't have your phone in there. It'll shut off. Yeah. But you can have your phone outside this on the air pods on. And you could just listen to a podcast or listening to a book on tape. What he listen to you? Beasley podcasts. Yeah. Yeah. Steals in Europe. No, not I listened to mind if it sucked or if it's something that I need to like Rhonda, Patrick, Lakewood, cheesy spouting out science, and I hear it over and over again to get it in my stupid, brain she. Yeah. Yeah. But or if I like that podcast sucked. And I need to listen to it to find where it went off the rails now because that's yeah. That's isn't that the bummer of being a trying to be a good at what you do is being like paying more attention the shit that doesn't work half to like bad sets, bad comedy sets. I always look listen to those. I fucking hate him. I don't even like listen to the good ones. But the bad ones are ruthlessly painful book. Yes. And I gotta listen to the good ones. 'cause I'm 'cause I'm like, what did I it's like not like, whoa. What was so special about me? But being like, oh, I improvised this this and this that's big too. But the problem is like part of the joy, the reason it was fun because it felt. Fresh, and then you try to recreate it, and it just doesn't have the same fuck juice. It's possible to recreate some things some things they just they were in the moment the audience. This is the thing that the audience knows to like if you have a have you ever seen a guy who's faking? Improvising. It's the saddest thing ever is. When you see someone worked the crowd, and then you go, this guy's brilliant. And they see him the next night. He does the same shed. And you go all it's a trick. Yeah. Well, you you can there's a moment that happens when you're improvising with an audience where someone says something and you just have the perfect response out of nowhere. They know that you just came up with an nowhere, and it just works. But there's also lines that you add to a bit that just came out of nowhere. And maybe they just crushed that night. But this still viable there's something to it yet to figure out how to recreate it. Yes. But it it's that it's that feeling also of not. Wanting to be how do you build material onstage? Keep it have it feel fresh without feeling like a fraud like a parliamentary. Yeah. Which I think is which is sort of like the tricky. The tricky thing to do you got to be less self aware? And you got to be more involved. Like, the for me, at least I have to like be more connected to the idea that I'm saying like I have to recreate my own personal wonderment that's involved in the idea because they'll they can smell it. If you have to like, you have to really be in the moment. Like if you're doing a bit about bottled water, you have to be thinking about bottled water like you have to be like what in the fuck it? And then it has to be real it has to be. But if you're not thinking about it, and you just saying the words they can smell. You little smelly animals fucking know it yet. Even when they even when they're psyched to see and they liked it still. They're still like. Weird thing you're not in. Yeah. Yeah. But you gotta be one. Are you back out? You're doing spots. You're back out building a new. Yeah. True. Like twenty five thirty minutes. Fuck is right now. I just can't see them, but it's a grind to crime, man. And I just like, I don't know. How like I'm like, I do my show. We do, you know, we we write big mouth takes us like, you know, five six months to write and voice it and then and when I'm writing all day, it's tough to go out new spots at night. What was it like to break it up to your Broadway gig for awhile? Yeah. There was great. I mean that was the most fun that was like me and Mullany. Do we did it off Broadway for like tw- twenty five days something like that? And then toward it a little bit five days in Boston five days in DC, L, LA, New York, whatever not New York. And then we went back into the Broadway show. We did a hundred and forty shows like one hundred thirty eight shows every night, you know. No five show weekends. And that was the most fun. That was the most fun because it's your onstage with your buddy. So you got someone even on the nights is not working. You know, when you're doing a showing your like, I know they like me, but this is not fun. They're tired, whatever. And you got. But you're up there alone. All of a sudden, your Gat someone else up there who you can make contact with me like fuck fuck. You know? What's funny a little bit? You know, without saying a word, we both know we're like, let's them tonight. And we because we wrote it we could improvise change whatever we wanted every night. It was like having a stand upset that you could improvise with your buddy in character. That was you knew every beat you had to hit. But you had a lot of freedom within it was it was the most fun. So it's like stand up, but not be like it was largely we built it to be presentational. So we could talk to the audience at any point because there's something about doing like a play or even when I was early on doing sketch. It's embarrassing. You don't have like, I we're gonna guess we're gonna pretend like we're in a fuck in Chinese restaurant right now. But you're in the audience, we're all in the same room right now. Yeah. It's like, I it sucks to not be able to do joke and not have a work and not be able to talk to the audience about it. Yeah. Or angry at the audience directly, or whatever it is. So we could do that. So we are presentational like you're doing stand up. But we've written this play that has real scenes in it. And then we built in an interview in the middle where we would interview different people like on the on the Netflix special Steve Martin. And and we also Michael J FOX's on specials. Well, but every night, it was someone different. And it was anyone from you know, we got Letterman to do it. But we also had like, Robin. Byrd member Robin Burs, use the channel j cable access porn stripper interview show in New York and like the eighties and nineties. It was there's no reason you would know it, except if like you were thirteen and going to sleep at your friend's house and city and jerking off the fucking it true. Is getting interviewed. Like, I was I kind of remember the name. Yeah. I kind of remember that Google Robin Byrd, you'll see some old there. She is. You know, it was like you could see the just the quality of that kind of like cable access eighties New York shit. We had her on the show because we felt like our boys would be interacting with Robin. Byrd, you know. So we'd have her. And then we had like, you know, crazy. So every night, we got to interview someone different. It's like a mini live podcasts in the middle of the show. So we just built the most fun show for us to do every night. It was great. It was the most fun. And then we finished that. And then came back, and I did that we wrote that we did that in between season one and season two of of big mouth because it takes so long to write it and the to animate it and all that stuff. So that was so we we wrote voice. Most of big mouths. He's in two before. You know last year just takes forever. So in the time that you did it you did you do stand up at all while you're doing it or just did. While we're doing Hello. There was no stand up at all. We're doing big mouth. We I I'd go out and do like a couple spots, you know, here and there let's zone. Yeah. It's just like nine hours ten hours, and you're just pitching jokes all day long. And it's like, you know, for me, I do a bunch of the voices on the show. So I'm pitching for myself. I'm pitching for my you know, all the other characters, and you're just at any given moment, you're watching your writing. You're breaking it up. You're rewriting another episode. You're giving notes on a radio play of of an just the audio. You're giving notes on the Anna Matic screening. That's coming black which is like the black and white kind of rough draft. And you're giving notes on a color screening. That's come back from Korea from like six months ago. So you're kind of at any given moment your rewrite, especially when you're in the middle of the season. You're just you're just kind of you're just yeah. You're just given your your rewrite its beauty of animation to that. You just keep getting a fucking, you know, figure stuff out when something's not working just keep you know. It's the it's good for that kind of perfectionist polisher of like what you're talking about where you're. Like, you're like, what's not working you keep getting figure out what's not working, you know, versus like live action where you're like, I hope I got it. You know, it's gotta be that's incredibly time consuming, and it must be exhausting. It kind of is at the end of the day. You're like am I going to go out and do a spot now? Yeah. I don't know. I mean, I think there's a balance, right? Like, you can't burn yourself out too much because then you won't have the jokes for the next day. You'll be two fried. You gotta pace yourself. I mean, everybody works differently. Our pacing is pretty good that like, you're. You're you. Yeah. I mean, there are certain times around like ooh, feel cook. But it's like anything else where you're like, you train your brain in that space where you're like the first two weeks, you come home, your brain is exhausted at the end of the night and then two weeks in you're like, oh, okay. I got my endurance backup. Like, I can do that. I can do that nine hour day. Did you what did you do to keep your energy level during the day? Did you take any Nutro picks or doing I would actually be curious because? I get I get hammered out like two thirty PM. I want a nap. And I can't and I'm, but I'm like, I'm not thinking or acting like you are so I'm like coffee in the morning. And then I'm, you know, and then I crash, and I eat sugar and this. Like, I don't know what I'm supposed to be. I'll take any any advice. You got. I would say that the sugar part is the biggest thing you should get rid of. Yeah. Yeah. That's the thing that makes you crash the hardest doughnuts and shit. Their taste delicious. But your your body has a really hard time processing that shit and afterwards, you just like the other day. I was in Vegas. And because it was on a Sunday. I was like fuck it, man. I'll just have some pancakes or something had crepes and a had this yogurt with all this. It was like, you know, sure. The yoga with fruit in it and shed and had oh and I had to cupcakes or to to to donuts because they had homemade donuts at the hotel. Like, all right. I'll get a couple of days. I felt like dog shit for the next six hours. It was just like. Oh, yeah. Like I had been drugged. Like, I was exhausted your body's probably truly not used like I've trained my. Yeah. You try to. Yeah. But I think there's a certain amount of you get accustomed to that terrible feeling, and it's just the normal feeling have after you eat. But even after like, even let's have like a greens in protein lunch live around like fucking. I'm having a Salva chicken, and or something like that still. I just hit that like my body wants fifteen minutes to close its is at like two thirty pm. Yeah. Whatever's on the couch in your office. I'll do that. Yeah. I need to schedule. I need to schedule better into the day to be like, hey, guys. I'm walking away right now because it's all needs. It's like fifteen minutes, but are like what a neutral. It is it just a what is it? Like is it a there's a bunch of different companies that make them what they are essentially, the building blocks for human neuro transmitters, there's a Gumy's like all but powder, most of the time either you take them in capsule form, or you you drink it. There's a good company that that makes one called neuro one I really liked that one because it's got caffeine in it too. And then there's another one called true brain. That's a good one. My company makes one called alphabrain. That's my favorite one not just because it's my company, but I think we did the best job of putting ingredients in the work synergistically. But I take neuro one a lot. I like that one a lot. How do you? How do you take it take in a shake? I just I just mix it with water joining like or just whenever whenever now take it before a workout. I'll take it before a podcast till take. I take alphabrain before ever UFC. Yeah. What it is. Is it helps your it's been clinically proven through to double blind. Placebo controlled studies at Boston center from memory that it increases. Verbal memory like your ability to find the right word for sentence increases your reaction time. And I'm sure when you're doing the UFC shit, you just have to be ready to. Yeah. There's just no there's this live recounting thousands of fights. Like if you hear me talk. I don't use notes. Really? I mean, I have some notes in front of me that like I'll get a guy's record or seven. And now, especially guys that I haven't seen fight too many times. Right. There's a few things that I'd like to arrest. Like most of it's all the back of my head. So recounting a thousand plus fights. You have has your memory always been like that for fights for fight for fights in certain things for for certain things. But like, my wife will tell me something and like an hour later. What you told me that she like, she's like, I just fucking told you that? Yeah. I was having a conversation with a friend recently. It was like. And it was like, well, I remember that your friend is Brazilian. But I have no idea where I wasn't April. Yeah. Yeah. It's like, I don't know. What that is. Now, I don't know if my memory was like, I also would the show. Luckily, my partners are great detail oriented like I I'm like improvising and the room writing bub-bubba, I like, I don't I don't want to type anything. I just want to like bullet verbal it's just all verbal. Yeah. And then I'll like watch a cut of the show, and I'll have almost no memory of what I've said. Oh that was funny. But I'll have no memory of where it came from. Yeah. And then I'll watch it and be like, okay, great. We'll figure that out. But like just seems to be the way. And I don't know if that's what I've done to my brain. Or that's just the way it is. I think a funny people a lot of times, they think and sort of that abstract way, and that usually doesn't lend itself to the best memory. It's sort of a wild loose impulsive, abstract quality that in my opinion, the my friends the funniest friends that I have sort of have that thing going on. We write your Joe, do you write your jokes ahead of time? Do you do now? Yeah, I've been doing that over the last maybe four or five years of change what I do. But I used to do is. I would have things that are wrote down on notebook. And I would write a little bit on a computer maybe four or five years ago. I got a PM very diligent with my writing. Yeah. And so I write out I I'll write and rewrite and do it all over again started from scratch, really? And then. Yeah. Sorry. Go ahead. No. And then then I put it into Scrivner. So scrivner. You use that? I mean, I noticed having use it I use that. So I could switch the there's a left hand side where it's all the column is all the different subjects, and then I can move them around put this one I of that one second. And then when I click on each one that it takes me to all of the shit that I've written on that particular subject. I've just found that makes a big difference in my my output quality material how much stuff that's good tag lines. I never forget the tag lines anymore because visually seeing when you're onstage. Are you like visually seeing the tagline in your head? Yeah. What I do with with onstage. One. The thing that I do before I go on stage like that day usually within a couple of hours of performing. I write things out in a notebook. If you look at my notebook. It's like all work. No play makes Jack del boy. Oh work. I say a right. The same thing over and over again, like get forty pages because it's just a memory book. I should call it a memory book rather than. Notebook. Yeah. Very little of it is actual writing. Most of it is just like I just wanna make sure that I write down all the beats to whatever bit. Yes. Yes. I I've never found an organizational method that I like and can stick to in that way. Like, my my shit is like there's like my little notebooks. That are like, you know, my little that you carry up, and I'm putting on stage with a set list. And then I've got like ideas in my phone. And then I've got another bigger notebook with some more writing in it. And then I got shit on a computer. But none of it's centralized. None of it's like, and I and I'm like, I, but I because I also think if like if I sit down and write a joke, I then delivered that night doesn't ever feel like how I don't know. I I don't it just takes work. If you just try to ride it out the way, you're gonna say it on stage. It will come off clunky. But eventually, you'll get it. Yeah. But the the difference me is if I just right in my head, and then go on stage, and I have a good premise, and I work it out, and it turns into a bit. And as long as I do it a lot I memorize it that. That usually does work. But it's better if I write it out and do that it's better if I do both things I still give myself a lot of room on stage to fuck around. And I will like just take a premise and run with it on stage. But if I have a bit now, I don't allow myself to not sit in front of the screen and just right? Yeah. Right. That bit. If there's a bid on like, I said bottled water, there's a bid on bottle. I will write that bit out in will write it again. And I'll read it again, and I'll just open up Microsoft Word and start from scratch. I'll say, okay, let's just start that bit over again. Let's see what maybe if I just did it today would I do it any differently? You gotta leave that time to do that you have to. I I really feel like there's a lot of people that say oh right on stage. Okay. I read on stage to but I feel like if I write on stage end I ride in a computer. It's better. Yeah. I feel like my my writings better my bits. Are they have more depth to them? Yeah. Will your you're taking the time to actually think about it. And then leaving your self that room. That's what it is. It's the time. It's the time in the focus the amount of time thinking about it. That's what I can't. That's what I'd like. Especially when I'm on the show. I'm just like that time is not there. But I got it. But I like, it's you gotta decide I feel like it's just like whatever you're doing. You're gonna fucking jump in. And do it or not. Yeah. Whatever it is. Well, that's one of the reasons I like podcast so much because I'm fucking lazy. And you don't have to do anything you just show up and start talking. Yeah. Like you, and I just talked we've already been talking for fucking two hours. He just start talking. Yeah. That's it. But it's interesting like people are happy to have that digested in this format right now. Yeah. But do you think you could get away with this onstage? No. Yeah. I mean, you could do a podcast on stage. If they knew they were coming to see a live broadcast. They would enjoy right and people do enjoy it. But it becomes have you've done live podcasts. Yeah. Weird. Right. It's weird. Especially if it's like kind of just a chat, you know, what I mean? Like if it's like, yeah. I feel. Like, I'm Rippin these people off I agree. I agree unless there's like a specific like we're like I've done my buddies podcast like men's Uca's, Paul Scheer, June Raphael, have a podcast. How did this get made where they talk about shitty movies? And then they like they that's cool. Yeah. And then and then you do that live and the audience has been told that the movie is, and then we get up there and we fuck around and that feels like everybody there's a, but there is like a pro it's not just a pure fuck around. This is a structure there's a structure to it that I feel like an a live audience loves and deserves like they're psyched about it. They also know what they're getting in that case. But I I agree. Just like us shooting the shit on stage. It's like people paid real money. They wanna see something that feels more. You and I were having this conversation. There's two thousand people to our right? It would be very strange. I feel like sorry, folks. Weird. Like, we're on. We're we're it'll be this is on YouTube right now. Yeah. So you hi, guys. Hi. Hey. Wayne and more than two thousand. But this the the thing about being in the presence of those people is what makes it odd. Yes, I agree. Well, that's it's weirdly kind of what I'm saying about when we were doing. Oh, Hello, which is like we're not going to acknowledge this fucking people out there. Right. Right. Yeah. Let's let them know what we're doing. That's the cool thing about that him guys wrote it yourself, and you don't have to adhere to you know, there's not a producer the no stick to this ancient script. Yeah. There's not some like like assistant director Comey. I mean, like high Matiz thinks that you guys should be you notice that you change this word like that was what always drove me crazy was like right onset where you're like. I know especially now, we're unlike when they wouldn't let you change a word, and I'm like, I get it. You wrote a great joke. Absolutely. But I also know I've been in writer's room. I know that we wrote that joke three months ago, fuck and ready for lunch. Like, the this isn't some this isn't Mozart. Like, we didn't write some perfect song. Requires like, yeah. You know, like, I respect your process, but also respect that you wrote this three months ago, and we were not in a room, and you are not with this like we are now in this particular situation on this day. So let's also realize that and I. Except that when I write for other people that like whatever I was trying to do in that room. Let's try to get that. But let's also acknowledged where we are in this new moment, you know. Yeah. That was one of the more amazing things about working with Paul Simms on NewsRadio. His that. He allowed you to rewrite entire scenes, and I've yeah, Dave Foley was really like a secret producer of that show is Dave Foley such a brilliant writer. Why would he would do is like there would be a scene that wouldn't work, and he would sit back and be like, okay? Why doesn't how about Vicky comes in? And she introduces this and then more comes in here. And then he will he will have like a totally different thing. And he'll say to Paul like, I we have a new thing for you. Tell us what you think. Pablo love it. Keep and says. And that was that was in rehearsals leading up to. But I think that that's like to me the best creators, and are I mean, I think there are some like autour geniuses. But I think the for in general, the best people are the ones who are ego is enough in check that they can be like we I've brought you in to collaborate with me. Let's hear what you have to say because it might be better. And it will make me equally. Look good. Nobody knows nobody knows that. Like it's going to still say like Paul Simms created the show. Nobody's gonna know. That Foley did a did a interesting like rewrite on a rehearsal. I think Paul would even tell you. But the thing about it was that when you write something out just like we were talking about before if you write jokes. They don't come to live unless there's people there they come to life when you're actually performing you like a joke just doesn't exist in a vacuum. They they've really you really need an audience. Yes. The thing about Ron and there's a similar process involved in. Sitcom in that as you're running through it then it comes to life. And then you realize the clunky part. Yes. Or you realize a better way to get to it or you realize. Well, this is the joke joke is that he doesn't know this and this has happened. So why don't we have it this way? Yeah. And you're like. Yeah. Yeah. We I mean, that's how we we. We do the show. You know, we have a fucking killer. Writer's room? We will break stories together. Someone goes off and writes a script comes back, and then we'll rewrite the whole script in the room. And I, and I I don't know if other rooms I don't know how other rooms work, but like we'll read the we'll read every scene together in the room just to hear it out loud, and then rewrite it based on like what we all just laughed at her didn't laugh at it. So by the time, we're actually getting the table read where we're hearing it again out loud, even before we get there. We've read read it all out loud and put it on its feet five times before it's even getting hurt in that room. You know is the grossest thing of all time the fake laugh at the table read. Yeah. Yeah. As you're performing you feel like a dirty whore. You hear their fake lab because they're trying to sell their to the network and the networks off skeptical hippo face. Know this book and of Chicago caught the tail end of the fucking sweet spot. Yeah. The tail end of the sitcom era. Yeah. You really got you guys. I mean with it's it was a great show. It's amazing that there's really no sitcoms anymore. I mean, there's the the fucking science one. What does that big bang Bill one last year? That's amazing. It's crazy. That was the first show that I they I was going to test for like that was the first like thing that they were like we wanna fly to L at a test for this. And I was like I don't think they were offering much money. They weren't offering a ton of money. So even then by the way, that shows not bad and those guys will never have to work again ever. But I I just like I don't want to be locked in any. I wanna fuck and do sh-. I wanna do new stuff. I want up around. Yeah. I just my. We're stuck on that. Yeah. And again, those guys God bless them. Yeah. How long did you guys? How was it year five years? But. It was never a success. It wasn't now knows it bombed every year, my friend, Lou Morton was one of the ways used to know. Yeah. He used to wear a t shirt every Monday of what I ratings were and showed up on the set one day, and it said like eighty eight and I went no fucking ways that really. Yup, we're number eighty eight. Oh my God. But by the way, whatever that number was then would now be a fucking monster hit. Oh, the numbers that we would get for in terms of viewers be huge a huge hit. Yeah. In comparison. Now, it'd be the now be dead in the now, it'd be a huge it maybe site. But then there was the sweet spot, then which was like between friends and Seinfeld that was the sweet spot, and if you could get into that. Oh, sweet baby. Jesus fucking. You've made it baby. There was the Caroline in the city. Yeah. Guy. Suddenly, susan. Yeah. They kept trying to I shit. What Paul Simms would call the shit sandwiches? We have is really good shows these slabs of shit in between them they were fucking terrible terrible shows, and they went on for a long time, and they were big hits. But may even in syndication, they're dead. Like, nobody wants to watch them. Maybe I'm trying to think if I watch News Radio and syndication. That's how probably how you want. It became a hit. After the fact that was the craziest thing about the show the show became popular after it was canceled. Wow. Yeah. Because it was on reruns on whatever it was attached to so much controversy because Phil Hartmann murdered and. Yeah, you know before the final season. Yeah. There's all so much. Was that weird? Visit crazy. I mean that must have been the Senate tense thing in the world that was Dow was well, it taught me a lot. First of all taught me do not stay in one of those evil relationships because there's people that just day just don't work together. And they try to make it work together. Fucking hate each other. And that was him in her it was ugly. And I tried to get him to divorce her several times, and he was terrified of losing his image terrified of losing money. I mean, he just didn't want to be a divorced Hollywood bashful guy. His image was the family guy. You know? I'm married, man. Family guy. Everything's great. Everything about him is like I'd look like a nice, man. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly the funniest, but he was living in hell. Oh, it was awful. Yeah. She would like openly insults him at parties and stuff, and you just cringe just like toxic. She hated him, you know, and she wound up shooting them in his sleep. I mean, it was it was as so intense as ugly as it gets. I mean, he took like a Nyquil or something like that to go to sleep and she shot him in the head while he was sleeping. She's had. How did you guys? Did you find out on like next day or the county? I've well I found out. I think I got a phone call. Yeah. That's what it was. I got a phone call. This is like pre this is pre cell phone pre mail, probably ninety. I wanna say ninety eight I guess I had a phone. But I mean, I guess I had a self shitty. Motorola, star TAC. Yeah. Remember those razor they are there. Yeah. But forty seven minutes of talk time or run out of battery. But yeah, actually now that I remember I found about it too. Crazy. I found out about it from girl. I'd go on a date with who worked for like one of those shows like hard copyright that she called me up, and she was trying to send a a news crew to my house. What a what a nice person. That's like what the fuck you talking about. We have to interview we're going to set a critic house. I what. And then. And then I tuned in the news. And there was hell this is what it was really weird. There was helicopters flying over Steve's of Phil's house. And then there was that guy who is in cocoon who was like a really famous actor for a while. But he lost his fucking marbles. Who's that guy? That was in cocoon the young he was a young handsome guy. Steve Gutenberg know that his name. I mean Gutenberg. Yes. Yeah. It was him. Yeah. That guy lost his mind. He lost his mind and he his career had fallen apart. So he pulled up a photo of Steve Gutenberg. Let me make sure it's him for. We're. Yeah. Let me say. What is it that what he looks like now back then? Yes. Yes. So pull see if you can Google Steve Gutenberg. At Phil hartman's murder. Because he had decided that he was going to talk for to the to the police you talked to CNN or not to he was going to talk to the press. So he put on like a suit, and he got out there. And he was he was out there talking to to the press. And we were all like what the fuck is. He doing I mean, maybe he's you don't hear about this guy anymore. Right. He kind of vanished. But he had already vanished back. Then it already it was already like it was post all those movies of police academy and all that shit. And there's a weird thing that happens to some of these guys where they just they're like, all right? And then they're like, oh, this is an opportunity for me to get back on camera. And we were all all of us were like how well did. He know Steve Gutenberg what the fuck is going on. It was the strangest thing him standing there with a Sudan talking to all the press and talking to peace. It was so weird. I mean, maybe I'm wrong. And maybe he did have this wonderful relationship fill never talked about. Yeah. But I was pretty close to fill. But I mean, I don't know. I think there's a there's a certain weirdness to talking to the press about someone who's just been murdered and people that are willing to go on camera. And and give interviews and stuff. It's like are you morning? Aren't you freaked out? Like, aren't you? I don't know. I I someone I just was time. This is a slightly changed. But it was. So it was like do you? Remember where you were when the O J verdict was written. I I was in high school. I climbed a tree. What did you climate? Sure that if people be like where were you when the OJ verdict? Trey I remember I was with my girlfriend at the time. And she threw her hands on her face and went, oh, no Ono. She's kept saying, oh, really? She's went. Oh, no. Oh, are you in LA? Yeah. We were watching it in my apartment. We're watching the verdict. And we and I was dumbfounded. I thought he was going to jail everybody thought he was going to work, and she just she's kept on. Oh, no. Oh, no. Oh, no. Yeah. I just remember being in high school. I knew Ron Goldman sister to really, yeah. Yeah. That was real weird. Yeah. I knew his sister is also like her her Rangel father. And I have no like, I can't imagine. I can't even begin to fathom. What that whole experience would be for anyone. But he was like he felt very performance of to me like he felt like he like he was again, I say this with all due respect. Like, I don't know. What it's I would have no sense of what that experience like. But there are certain people. You're like, oh, you do like being on camera. I know something horrible happen to you. But you did like being on camera. I mean, I have no idea. I don't know either. I mean, who the fuck knows how you I don't know how I would react your son was murdered by some superstar. Yeah. I just think about how crazy it has not just murdered but murdered by a famous guy. Yeah. Who then is like off flaunted and got off. Yeah. It was a part of this weird race thing where it was post Rodney King. So there's a lot of people that felt like there was some sort of a racist aspect to it that like there was a racist. Cops who got off with Rodney King. So now, it's their chance to get one for black, folks. Yeah. And it was about it. You know, it's cra-. Did you watch? The do you watch the OJ the documentary? And then also there's the effects show watched one episode of the FX show. I was like damn Cuba Gooding junior. Fucking nail dish. He really seemed like OJ in. It was really good. Yeah. But that's all the documentary is interesting because it sets up like LA all like that all their seating years leading up riot post riots, all that stuff like and you're like, oh, it does it sort of it does like lend itself to be like, oh, this was this was a perfect confluence of events. Then led to this thing of like, you know, racial up, you know. Everything that went into the OJ trials fucking nuts. It's crazy. It was a strange strange time strange time because it just seemed like the world was made of something that was way more flexible than I ever thought it was before. Like, I never thought OJ Simpson could be a murderer thought murders were bad people. And that the the people that you thought of that were good people on TV. You would never think of like, no Jay was always so friendly and smiley, and he would have that big laugh and he's handsome talking about head injuries to see T. It's like you're like, I wonder what oh for sure had to do with it. One hundred percent one thousand million percent, right. In fact, his doctor said that if the trial were to take place today his doctor time, they would introduce CT. Yeah. And you see all those students. I'm in the level of violence that areas is this right police academy, Nick, Nick Hayes. Oh, so he's funny in naked gun, but it's interesting. Back and watch the documentary, and it's like, you know, his buddies his like his good buddies who stood by him. His good buddies who stood by him talk about him in highschool. And he's kind of like he was fucking thrown his friends under the bus in highschool like all three of them would be like doing some like in the bathroom like doing some shit. They're supposed to be in class and the principal would come in. And the three of them are altogether and OJ just like saddle up next to the principal. And be like, what are we going to do these two guys? You know, what I mean he was like thrown his buddies under the bus. You're like oh, heave CD fucked them up. I don't know what kind of man he would have been like whether he would have been so violent or whatever, but he was like piece of shit. Plus he kind of felt like he was a piece of shit his whole life. Well, how about the book if I did it how crazy how crazies that? He wrote a book if I did I didn't do. Did you see the did you ever have you ever seen his prank show juiced? Oh, yes. That's post the Murdo yet post the murder. Yeah. It's fucking crazy. You ever see? His rap song. No, all young, Jamie. Find it. Oh, yes. Yes. This was part of that juiced. I think thing right. It's in that same thing. It's part of James. It's like, and it's all these. It's all these like young little hottie young little hotties. Look like like, Nicole. It's so far what does that picture of him with the glasses? That's from those hatches look at that. What craze what in the fuck is that he can go anywhere with that. You can go to Disneyland. He's here that famous in. You did something awful like that. You gotta go in disguise how many chicks bang him. Just because he's OJ. Now a lot you still people. Are you still looking to bang him? Yes. One hundred percent, I say J pretended. He would what what does it say cold at this guy into cuckold this guy? Oh, God the poor guy. No, man. I wonder one hundred percent. Yeah. This wacky broads that wanna bang murderers. Really? Yes. Yeah. I guess so there's there's a guy that we had in here. Nick yeras who went to jail. He was on death row for twenty years for a crime that twenty two years for crime. They didn't commit and he said since getting out he's just in. He was asking on the podcast with these women is stop sending him emails. I'm married. I have a good relationship. They please leave me alone. Like stop testing me in like, really? Yeah. They just throw that bus. Why interest? Yeah. There's well. Richard Ramirez, the night stalker. Yeah. That guy apparently got all these women were sending him pictures and Email or what was letters actually. Yeah. And he might marrying some woman really mass Mansa got married. Yeah. A lot of them get married. Yeah. Real common. Fuck man. Crazy. Yeah. I mean, look at Fogo j I would do I'd talk with you. We'd high five each other. Would you want the front of the back? I would want. I don't I think I'd want the front. Frumpy more dangerous if you had a C T E like flashback and bit you're deck off. That's true. You could control you can control the back a little bit of. Yeah. I wonder what how teeth did in in prison. He's out now. Right. He's out. Yeah. Which is really weird. That's wild. What is do in these days? He was I can't remember what he was doing recently or think is Jamie. It's got a good podcast. I've got his podcast for I put on my Twitter. Should I interview GMI podcasts or not? What was what was the milk on Moshi catcher? Just sent me a text book. What fucking? Which I guess I would legitimize him I guess and make what an interview with that legitimize. I've heard that before OJ Simpson. Living life of luxury in Vegas twenty years. This this is eighteen oh, this is just now last week. Wow. Is living on life of luxury in Vegas. Look at them who just walking around strolling plays golf four to five times a week, the exclusive or Royal golf club far from keeping a low profile the former Buffalo Bills star has been spotted at hotels and even Vegas Golden Knights hockey game. Wow. What the fuck look at them. They gins over young. Looking at girl. I can't believe I've talked to OJ OMG people. Fuck him. I guarantee you girls. Fuck him hundred percent. I wonder probably more than us combined. Chose. Senator Simpson put a travels around town with his own Breathalyzer. The exceeds a certain blood alcohol level he could be sent back to prison. So maybe he should stop drinking. Maybe just treating joys a MARTINI day. But what does that if you what was the blood alcohol level there send you back to prison? How crazy is that like free? But if you have three beers, you're fighting. Shays on parole. I guess right. He was on the Ali g show or the thing. That's cohen. Did he's at the very end of it. He was trying to talk him in the same. And it did it. Yeah. I think he was. Oh was more aware of what was going on than a bunch of the other people on that show. Well, I mean, you he's probably hyper paranoid that someone's backing with them far. Everybody's fucking since always. Yeah. Clock. Clock. The look it on more young pussyfoot OJ OJ wanted to meet me. My name is Nicole. He said, that's my favorite name. Oh my God. That is insane. But you know, what a Betty gets a lot of those vacant odd. Young ladies to accept his penis tr-. I have trouble believing that maybe I mean why because he thinks you ever do you ever? Ironically, fuck somebody. Think some gals would do that. Right. I radically. Fuck a murderer. I guess for the can't imagine. I maybe I can't imagine. I don't know what the social like the currency of that is Scott Peterson was sent to death row in California's San Quentin prison for murdering his wife and their unborn child. Dozens of women phoned asking for his address with one teenager wasting no time in offering to marry him. Yeah. Yeah. There's that's I think this is what I think I think there is some sort of ancient DNA that people have that attracts them to murderers and conquerors because those are the people that survived, and the you're an some sort of a strange inclination for some women, obviously ones that are not thinking clearly, but for some women to want the sperm and the genetics of a murderer because that's the type of the if you had a murderous brave conqueror for a child. Uh-huh. Child would survive like that DNA? Yeah. I mean, I get some sort of survival. Yeah. Times of bar Barrick. Sure. You wanted to be with someone? Yeah. That's what I think it is like a killer. So much like the caveman comedian. Well, I think that if a male feminist goes to jail, they get zero requests for marriage. They get none. But. Yeah. If some male feminist gets arrested and goes to jail, it's a wrap. Yeah. But if you're a murderer, you probably get a lot because women there's a reason why men become I mean, there's there's a man who believe in quality and want women's rights. And then there's men who are really Weasley, and what they're doing is just their purchase and posturing, and I think those guys they go to jail crickets, well, either they're in jails. So they're not they're probably not. I don't know how it works. I don't know you get some places you can get conjugal visits. Yeah. But I think it's it's dependent upon the jail. You didn't Cosby's getting any marital any proposals Betty does a bit girls. Trying to get raped by him a believe it or not. I bet there are some girls who would want Cosby to drug them because they are fucking crazy people get their faces tattooed. Yeah. People you know, people that are just straight up nuts. Yeah. And there's a high profile thing like that. Yeah. I think I think when I think about that. I'm like what happened to those people that made them to the point where they would be interested in something like that the person that goes after. Yeah. I have my theories about Cosby, I think that when that happened when Cosby I started doing that. I think it was common. I think that whole slipping vanish. I think in the sixties and the fifties. I think asshole men did that women all the fucking time. And I don't think people thought about the consequences and don't think people thought about the rights of women. I mean, if you just think about like chauvinism in films, male male chauvinist behavior, sexist behavior, men's smacking women in films. I mean, it was really common Steve McQueen and Ali. Would it was her name? Allie. Sheeting alley. Mcgraw alley McGraw beat the fuck out of her in a scene LA at an actual seeing. She even know he was going to do it. Right. Beat the shit out of her in the Illich on Phil. Right. That was that was just came out was like Brando is like we we didn't we just sprung this like sexual encounters this woman that different game. Yeah. It was a different world. And I think there was a lot of I mean, he was always hanging around the playboy mansion, I think there was a lot of men that just raped women and drug them. I think it was common for you. I'm sure you've talked to many women that have had something drop. in their drink. Right. Yeah. It's for sure raising there's darkness out. There is so much darkness out there. And it's a bummer. It's such a fuck and bummer, man. It's such a bummer and it, and it's an it's. Yeah. It's and and you think about but with it's crazy with Cosby is like it was an until again. It's I mean, it's crazy to think. Now, however, many years ago Hannibal set it on say, it's like we all knew some version like we'd all heard some stories about Cosby, and it was sort of like oh well bills Bill. I heard about it on the set of NewsRadio. That's when I heard it back. Yeah. And nobody touch him. Well, no, one knew for sure nobody knew to the extent guess or. But you heard you heard from someone that, you know, it's the craziest one Hannibal said that on stage, the people that aren't connected to Hollywood. We're like, wait what? Yeah. What fuck. Yeah. You say he's a rapist. Yeah. Like that video went viral millions of people saw knowing what Bill Cosby rapes people, and then he raped me. What it's crazy. And now he's in jail. It's darkness. Good. Good, man. Well, it's crazy. Good. But. Crazy that it took so long and crazy that it's only for three years. Yes. He's got a three year sent three to ten year sentence, which is the last one they could get him for right, right? But I mean, do you see him live? Did you ever burn? I was supposed to go four all that shit went down. And we wound up cancelling. And then Berlin up seen him. And he said it was amazing. Chris rock said he was fucking amazing to Chris rock said that he felt like he was an amateur after he watched caused. Yeah. He said he was I felt like I don't know. What the fuck? I'm doing. Yeah. I saw him once in Montreal during the festival I was hung over. And I watched and I fell asleep. It was like a Sunday afternoon. I was like out. Sit down and tell me your story. I do. Weird. If you really enjoyed it. If he was like, your best your favorite comedian. I know that would suck would suck. I would it would suck Moore who is your favorite standup. When you when you first starting. Well, let's see when I first started. I started in New York sort of the alz seen like I remember seeing Galvin Akkas early on a been like Jesus Christ. What the fuck is. This guy's doing noth-. Now, he he does. So he'll pop up and be any so funny. I remember seeing Burr because I've been doing sort of more room stuff. And then I remember seeing Burke come to like a like, the New York and seeing him to stand up and be like, oh, he's doing him. And he's doing it in this space where people are not used to seeing just a straight stand up, and he's fucked and killing I remember seeing him really I'm be like Jesus This guy is fucking killing. And and being very impressed me. Like, how do I do that? And how ever many years later? I'm still like how do I do that? When you were a kid was there anyone that really stood out you consider standup. I mean, I remember seeing delirious watching delirious, and then like the the specials that I had are around me growing up where Carlin and Carnegie delirious and like Robin Williams at the met some or likes. You know, I see those specials. Those were big for me. And I just remember seeing delirious had been like memorizing, Joe get to meet, Robin. No, no. Did you see him at the store bunch? You're like. Around I met I met him. In the craziest way possible. I did a set at the improv and afterwards, I was taking pictures of people. There was like a line of people don't take photos in this old guy with his white beard and glasses and a baseball hat came up. And he wanted to tell me how funny thought the show was and I was talking him for a couple minutes for realize it was Robin Williams Jesus. And then in the middle of it like we're talking. Oh, thank you. That's nice. I really appreciate it. Man. Thanks. I'm glad you enjoyed it. Holy shit never told him. I knew I was like I. But my my brain is saying, I didn't know what to say. I I really appreciate that. Thank you so much, you know, and and you know, he was just talking about a specific bit that I was doing, and you know, like about how crazy it was. And like a love the the twist in the turn and this and that it was like, wow, thanks, man. The guy waited in line with everybody. That's wild. Yeah. Just wait in line came by himself. Did you see him doing some version of your bit? Couple of. Thankfully recipes. You know, what you did? Sponge? He's just a sponge. Now, he thankfully, wasn't doing stand up back. Then that was when he was doing that show member he was doing that show the crazy ones. Oh, yeah. Can try to do a sitcom before he? Yeah. But he. Yeah. I mean, I had friends everyone would see him in like he'd come because he'd come to do improv at UC beer, and then he would go, and do you know, he was sort of? I don't know if he was doing stand up at any point. But you know, I I never got to catch. I never got my like, you know, I've a lot of friends who have got got a little touch from him. And that feeling of like, you are, you know, an I mean because he was a guy who I was like, oh, that's what I like you're doing what I like you're doing stand up, but it's characters and you're doing all the stuff, and you're acting you get to be in serious movies. And you get to be in comedy like, yeah. I was sort of like he was sort of sort of a model of like I was like I think I would like to do what he's doing. Yeah. He was so flexible. -able? Yeah. In what he was able to do. Yeah. Yeah. Did you ever see patch Adams, though, it might be the worst movie ever made? No, it'd be the worst is probably right up there with a Travolta Godley movie. But God, I see that Travolta go today on the elliptical fuck and city every he says fuck every three words, and you're like, oh, Johnny look at you this fucking city fucking. Look so bad. I love that. There's something that I like, I just love that John. There's something I like love about a man. So deeply out of touch. I mean, that's the thing is like. Kogen thumbs fucking up. Me and my wife's Justice Sarah Palin. I loved this fuck and city. But the the sexual chemistry between them is palpable. Probably real super. You were talking about at the beginning of like like cults, and I'm like, I'm thinking about I'm thinking about I'm thinking about Tom Cruise and Scientology there is a man using every ounce of what Scientology is offering to make himself the best available man that he's capable of being. Then you've got Travolta. You've got to versions of like like a man who's becoming slightly out of touch with what he you know. New look at my fucking wig. It's a good way. How amazing are wigs these days. He's got great works. I mean that's a fucking incredible wig thinning just a little bit upfront. You would think that's his hair. He's living the dream. It's incredible. He's living. God damn dream you. Okay. With time. We could wrap this over whatever. Yeah. Thirty three thirty. Yeah. We're got what does that appear on the OJ thing? Oh, yeah. That was him Mazen that little that little chin is that his he wore a little chin like a little chin yarmulke there. It's unbelievable. I remember seeing him in an award ceremony that and then that when he had that little chin thing. And I was like did he put that on after the thing? I met him when his wife was on fear factor, really Kelly. Preston was on fear. Fear factor. Yeah. Celebrity fear factor. David Hasselhoff Kelly. Wow. Preston. How were they? She was really nice assume per friendly look. Yeah. But but I felt like I. I felt like they recruited people. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, they were there. I mean, they were therefore Scientology was sort of stigmatized. It was there was a lot of people that were joining it is going on there. She has a black cap on that hair. Is so crazy fake looking. That's like that magnetic man that you could like move the magnets on the create hair. Who's fucking hair looks like that? That's crazy, man. That's I mean, the the colour everything is wrong. That's madness. But yeah, she was super friendly really down earth super normal and friendly, and she's like, these tarantulas are great. You know, if you eat enough, and you wanna come and hang out later, we could eat more. Yes. Like eating tarantulas, and you can join. Yeah. We've been Joe we can Olympic your phone number. I'd like to have come from front still your way, but some e meters. Yeah, I I remember watching that dick going clear the documentary me like, oh, I'm not scared like they're not coming for me. Like mischievous is not coming from me. He's coming for like the people under him who is a threat. Like, I don't think he sees us as a threat like I don't think he gives a fuck us been like, I don't know about Scientology bet he shields himself from anything like this any kind of criticism. And but I do tell you that I had miscarriages dad on really. Yeah. Oh, right. 'cause he's he's he's left. Yeah. Fucking escape saying like dad, I'm scared because he's like Mitch is like my dad is a threat to me like you. And I. Talking about Scientology, which gives a fuck. It was a weird conversation. What was he like? Well, he's sad is like he lost his whole life to this nonsense and his sons gone like you can't his son won't contact them. And it was his idea to get the family into Scientology. So he's on built to guilt to that. Yeah. The sun rises through the ranks one's a running the whole fucking thing. And that was on won't talk to my favorite thing is miscarriage and Tom Cruise shaking hands. Yes. It's the best. It's like this. It's this this. Yes. Men mischievous trumping him where you can you can see Tom Cruise trying to pull his hand away and mischievous like I will not relent I will not release, and you can see Tom Cruise bean like this tinier men than me has an even higher level of alpha nece than I. Yeah. And I will I will relent. Well, the the real threat to them as Leah remnant mean, what Leah remedies done like she is is he could see him turn to pull this. Fucking salutes salute salute Granahan. She's Tom Cruise like trying to pull away and miss. Give it won't let it go. It's really fantastic lanting. Yeah. Unrelenting you can see trying to like you can see the hands turn to like come lose any won't let it happen. He's like, and it's like that Trump move. My favorite thing is when they salute the the picture of L RA, they salute it a shitty science fiction writer who was wearing that big dinner plate around his neck. They know and look at it is not a tall man and miss is. He towers over Tom Cruise Tom Cruise cowers over time. Sorry. Yes. Yeah. Look at that fucking giant gold medal. He I know being the most awesome person diverse. But again, I'm like I did. Did you see the recent mission impossible? He's amazing. It's amazing. He's a fucking fantastic act. I'm like so on board. I'm on board with the whole thing. I'm like this, man. No, how hard it is to get a movie made now to get anybody pay attention. Go learn to fucking fly helicopter and jump off a building. And break your ankle, like talk and go for it, man. Well, you know, as well as I do you've been around a lot of actors. They're all fucking crazy. But his crazies just two different kind of crazy. But it's also a different kind of success. Yeah. When I'm like, he's a guy who I feel like you would get like like he's like. Yeah. Like, what whatever I need to do. Like, I will. I will maximize myself the gold medal. It's fucking amazing. I love it volume. I'm here. Some of this. I take this as a half back. Joke. That's like a good insight side Todd you. Yeah. For sure I will continue on my way. Okay. These are the times now people. Okay. These are the times we will all remember isn't that the song you there? What did you do? I think you know, that I am there for you. And I do care so very very very much. That's why it's the best actor ever bullshit right there. Believe it or do you think he's full should I can't on the verge of booking tears? Choose. But he he's full shift for sure with everything he does. I don't think there's a moment in his life where he's not full of shit. Right. But he's believes that so deeply look at this the salute our H go back up back up a little bit. I need to see that again, watch this. Dweller right to. If you know anything about that guy. Yeah. L Ron Hubbard was a fucking maniac. Yeah. Did you read going clear? Did you see the digests documentary? Book is fucking. Yeah. The book is he was fucking shit house rat crazy. Yeah. Crazy on a boat. Just he was out of his fucking mind himself a bunch of metals. Have you seen the there's a there's a podcast called you must remember this? And it's like all about old Hollywood, and it somehow circumvents a little bit of like L Ron Hubbard seen in like Pasadena with like all these other like, you know, spiritualists Futurists like and the, and it's like, it's cuckoo's Ville, they are like they are they are cruising on their own fucking agenda. And it's kind of amazing. But he's yeah. It was I wish I had more information put again in my brain doesn't retain the stuff I need to get into Scientology the your help. If you just maximize your e Tron or whatever fucking. Do you ever do is dressed us? Do you ever go? One one time. I was filming a television show San Diego and we had downtime when they were setting up scene. And we happen to be at a park where they had one of those Scientology booths set up, and I went over there and the guy like put me through the whole thing. Hold onto the cans, and they're connected to the wise. But he was so unenthusiastic. He was selling it at all. I was like. I was like. You passed the seat. I don't know, man. The guy had no energy fog. It was hilarious worst sales. I think they just make them. Do it, you know, and some people don't want to do it. And next thing, you know, they got a fucking conference table set up in a park and stack of books and they're go nowhere. In Clearwater joys. Didn't nowhere where near Clearwater. They're on the other coast. I gotta get to the fucking east coast. Damn and God bless him. Though. I am like I am weirdly like I mean, I don't know about God bless like like dislocating people and disconnecting people from their families. But I am like I am sort of feeling like whatever you if you can find something for yourself that brings you some answers. And and like gives you some comfort and motivates you to be the best person. You can be like could do whatever the fuck you want. I don't give a shit. I agree. I do I am like if you're like dislocation people from their families and stealing. Everybody's money like, whatever. Whatever your personal choices. I'm like go for man. I don't get. And quite honestly like why is it? Okay. To be a Catholic. And it's not okay to be a scientologist because Catholic Catholicism which grew up with is one of the fucking nuttiest religions filled with kid fuckers. Yeah. Where they literally have their own country the Vatican's own country. They move priests around all over the world it happen. There's a new case it just happened a couple of weeks ago. In pennsylvania. They just found thousand children that it had been molested. So. Yeah. No. It's systematic. It's seriously. When did you was there a moment in the church, and you're like, oh, I'm out. I'm done. Well, I was really lucky without my parents split up. And when my parents split up, I went to Catholic school for one year after that. And then my mom met my step dad, who's a hippie, and he was stupid. And the next thing, you know, we moved to San Francisco. So we were in New Jersey. I was going to Catholic school year later lived in San Francisco next to gay people living right off of what's that Lombard street crooked street in the world. Yeah. Yeah. Down near fisherman's. That's a change. Oh is the craziest shift? I mean, this was also during the Vietnam war. So I went from being in this really sort of repressive, east coast, Italian Catholic environment to being around nothing, but hippies and gay people out your mom wanted out. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Everybody wanted out. My stepdad wanted my mom wanted out there. Realized that there was also this was nine seventy. Okay. I was seven so seventy three seventy four seventy four. So it was like the heat of the Vietnam war the hippie movement was in full Shang. Nixon was president. It was craziness back then. And fuck everybody wanted out. You know? Yeah. Have you listened to that? There's a podcast called slow-burn who's listening to see. It's a it's all about Watergate, and it sort of from the angle of like how it just took a while to on fold like it just like you're like, okay tip it like this didn't happen overnight because it would elect the Russia Trump investigation. Yeah. It's like the slow. It's just like it's just slowly unfolding piece by piece in you're like overtime. You're like. Oh, right. Like these domino, slowly fall. And in that one you're like, I didn't I just didn't know that much about Watergate. But I was like, oh like Watergate happen and the election was five months later and Nixon one in. Landslide. Like, why the country was like the country was like Watergate says it's not it's nothing big deal. And then it was another year year and a half before like he was before he was impeached. Tickle? Tickle while. I did not know that. Yeah. It's kind of it's kind of crazy. But it like it gets into some of the early stuff of like Watergate, and after Watergate and all the like sort of the beginning of what I think became like legit legitimising in different versions of conspiracy theories of like, what's really going on here. You know? And it's it's pretty yeah. Seventy four he resigned. Yeah. But he was reelected. Yeah. He was reluctant Watergate it happened. Nobody nobody thought about it after his resignation was issued at controversial pardon by successive, Gerald it. That's exactly what Mike Pence is gonna do. Fuck. You think you'll go down, and you think you'll get impeached. I don't know I thought that more few months ago. Now feels like it just he's so preposterous that as time rolls on. We're we're conditioned to his posture. Snus just all of it loses its teeth. Yeah. Well, look, I mean, the stormy Daniels thing nobody gives a fuck about it anymore. Okay. Fucked her so what? But I feel like I feel like they everybody knew he was fucking people before it's like, it's. If you don't apply yourself to a like normal moral framework than right? It's not like he was super ethical who's the guy that was running for president. And it turned out that he was she John? Yes. While she was dying of cancer at. Yeah. And he's having fair or debut with someone. Yeah. And that's cook. Well, that's the problem with like will you see like Al Franken go down for like, you know, nothing new nothing. And it's because on that side. It's like it's like the moral framework is like you can't do that to women. But if you're if you're if you're Trump guy thing, you're like, we it's under your Trump guy. But it's like it's like, yeah. Well, that's how Donald is right. Like, and he's like that. So I am. So if Bill O Reilly was taking pictures of the chicken grabbed her, but everybody will go. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. Yeah. But it's like if it's on the other side, it's like, well, there's a moral framework there that you like fuck we got a if we're going to say that that's the deal that we have to fall through that. That's the deal. Michael Vinci was going Nadi. Yeah. This guy is running. He was the the this would be great for two proposing a three round mixed martial arts fight with Donald Trump junior for charity. No joke and Michael avenue said this'll be for two great causes. I'm in why this guy he's he likes loves it a little too. Yeah. He's a little they were trying to get some show with him in the mood trite. Yeah. What's his name chain scare Mucci? He wants to run for president avenue. He'll be the big threat and twenty twenty to the Democrats. I I can't I can't I can't imagine that. Oh, man. Yeah. He's getting supposed to get released from jail Weiner on good behavior. How's he still in jail? What did he do the sexual with the kid or something like that? Texting? Is that what it was? Is that what it was no for that smooth chest? Okay. And on that note. This up. All right. What are you going on anything people need to know about uh of? Yeah. Big mouth season two's out now on Netflix hilarious fucking show. Thanks, man. Really is is one of the best animated shows ever. Thanks, man. I appreciate it. Yeah. I guess that's really it. I mean, that's that's the one. I is my autobiography that I've poured my life. So I guess that's the thing. I'll tell you. And you do and sets at the store we. Yeah. Yeah. Do set to the store do a show at Largo a monthly semi-monthly. I'll actually wanted to talk to come in and doing the show. Yeah. I do that net. Crawling friends, and then yeah, I got other shit coming here. But it's a big big big mouth. All right flex go. Watch it. Thanks. Thank you, ladies and gentlemen, thanks for tuning in. And thank you to our sponsors. Thank you to the cash app. Go to the app store or the Google play market. Now, download the cash app for free. 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Florence strikes: people trapped, power out, rescues underway; Paul Manafort pleads guilty, will cooperate with Justice Dept
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We begin with breaking news at least four people have now been killed by hurricane Florence as it hits the eastern United States, a mother and her baby died. When a tree fell on their house in Wilmington, North Carolina, just twenty miles away in ham stead. Another woman died after suffering cardiac distress, trees and debris blocked first responders from being able to reach her in time and further inland. Another person was killed while plugging in a generator this now, deadly and slow. Moving disaster has been pounding the east coast of the United States for more than a day. Now, in new Bern, North Carolina, water was waist high rescuers spending the day bringing more than three hundred people to save the and other areas of the same state. Some who chose to ride out the storm at home, or they saw this from their windows. That's Leland North Carolina, right near Wilmington. We're wins likely will not drop below fifty miles per hour until tomorrow afternoon more than six hundred thousand customers in north and South Carolina currently do not have any power. Twenty six thousand people in both states have been forced to move to shelters and more than seven thousand soldiers and airmen with the national guard are responding to calls just moments ago. The White House announced the President Trump will be visiting areas affected by the storm. Sometime next week we have teams positioned across the Carolinas to show you the conditions and the impact CNN's. Miguel Marquez is in Carolina beach, North Carolina forest Miguel. Tell us about conditions where you are. Yeah, in award miserable is it's going right now here in Carolina beach at this is a storm. This is wind that just will not relent. I want to show you exactly what we're dealing with. This is the beach of Carolina beach. Those waves are just unbelievably big. They've doubled in size since this morning. We were out here this morning and this boardwalk up to here was saying, this was beach now is about two feet of sand that has gone all the way down beach erosion, all the way up and down Carolina beach. There beach is just dog. This is what they are dealing with. Now, for the last twenty four hours we have been in this storm hit, it just will stop. We were area today that his flooded pretty badly they had has the tide came in and as the the rain was coming down and as the the surge that water is being pushed on shore there, we had. Waist high water here, it Carolina beach. They expect when that tied cubs back into night around midnight that they will have that same surge, that same issue and and then they will be a test of just how this town survives. This spoke to the city manager. A short time ago. He says that it may be Saturday or Sunday before they're able to open up the bridge so that people can get in and out of this town across the county. There's now some hundred eight thousand people who have no electricity. Certainly here in Carolina beach, the electric city is out. Duke Energy only serves serves about one hundred twenty eight thousand people, the county. So almost what ninety percent of the people in this county have Il trinity. At this point, it's not clear when it's gonna get better. It looks like it will be well as tomorrow we've been in this weather for about twenty four hours now, just unrelenting storm. Jake and me gal. You said the water has been coming in or their concerns that it actually is. Gonna come even further in even to the town. That that is the concern that it flooded into the town area that often floods here about two hundred yards. What was concerning to officials here is that it did that in about a half hour. And so tonight's when that when that tied cubs in the surge, the same time, they'll be watching and waiting to see whether areas of town that often flood, if they flood even more and if homes in this area begin to take on water as well, Jake. All right. We go, Mark hasn't Carolina beach, North Carolina. Please stay safe. We've talked about all the high water rescues in the new Bern area of North Carolina. CNN's Ed, legendary. Is there right now at tell us about the rescues that you've been seeing today? Hi, Jake will here in new Bern, North Carolina through torrential downpours. We've seen a scene reminiscent of what hurricane Harvey was like in Houston. A year ago were citizen volunteers, rescuers have poured into this city with their own boats to try to help people whose homes have quickly taken on water here since the storm has come ashore. One of those people here is Michael Everett who drove down from an hour and a half away to good his boat in the water. You how many people have you pulled out today? Probably between five and six. We only have been down here about a hour too. So you know, you got somebody in folks that are kind of, hey, we don't want to leave old towns and stuff like that, but you know, what do you do? Michael just came out of this neighborhood. You see behind me and you were telling me that they're still a number of people back there who refused to come out? Yes, sir. Yes, sir. How he'd have some people at old-timers, they kind of won't stick around and ride it out. But I don't know if that's the smartest thing to do, not knowing how many more days this is going on. So and how deep is the water. Been in the places you've seen in this neighborhood? We run into some spots probably between four and five, even ten foot deep back. Do you sense it coming up? We're coming down where we stay there, probably fifteen twenty minutes. And matter of fact, rain got so bad that we got an corporate, but we probably stayed on for probably four or five and within five minutes, it'd probably rose inch to you. Live in hour and a half away. You drove down here to do this. What made you do it? Well, I've lived through hurricane Fullwood and got flooded and had full food award in house, and I really feel for these people because it is it just a terrible situation. Right? We'll keep up the great work. Thanks for your time. Michael Everett who you're Jake came down to our two half away to be a part of this. The mayor here says that a little more than three hundred people have been rescued from their homes. So far today in the mayor says that so far they still have perhaps another forty or so that want to be rescued of. But as you heard Michael here, say Jake, there are some people who still refuse to leave their homes even as the flood waters continue to rise Jake remarkable story. Thank you so much. CNN's done. Lemon is covering the storm for CNN in Myrtle Beach, South Carolina, Don Don. You guys are neck year next to get hit according to the experts. Wonder, what are the conditions like right now where you are. Jake, this is as bad as a as it's been, we're getting some really strong bands of win that's coming through. I don't want to turn my back to you, but if I do, you'll know because that's the only way to stand up here, but it's starting to get really bad here. Here's here's the problem, Jake and you've covered this new covered hurricanes and you know, usually they come through. They don't last terribly long. It's not like a tornado that comes through and it just runs at. They don't last terribly long, but this one has been unrelenting sitting here and sitting here and it's dumping rain on top of the folks here all across the Carolinas. And as you know, the big problem has been flooding. It's been flooding, and we've been talking about the flooding on the coast, but I think the real big problem. Jake is going to be with the folks who are inland. It can run off here. I've been showing the storm drains here on the beach where it runs right into the Atlantic. But without those when you're inland, you don't have that. And the water cannot run off as easily. I've just going to walk you out here and show you. We've been talking about the beaches, they've been closing the beaches and trying to get. People up. The beaches are pretty much desolate, but you still get the sand and you still get the win that that whips it up. But again, the big problem is going to be flooding. There's that storm drain that I've been telling you about an their number of them along the beach here and man, that thing is roaring water coming in. It was just a little trickle if anything, and it certainly wasn't this big when we first got here. But here it is and I'll get as close to it as possible to show you here. But there are these storm drains all over the beach waters coming in from town. What was once a crevice has now become a crevasse, something that's bigger and it is going to get worse. The worst for me where I am here in Myrtle Beach, probably ten eleven midnight could be later at the storm continues to sit on top of this area and just spin around in whip water, Jake and Don Myrtle Beach extended its curfew through tomorrow morning. It was supposed to end tonight. Is there a sense of the storm being worse than had been. Affected. Well, it is. Yes, worse-than-expected because it's not moving, you know, it's going anywhere from three to ten miles an hour. It's just not moving. Just won't get out of here. So they're telling people to stay in their homes. You saw the pictures, you heard what happened in newborn as it relates to the tree falling. You've seen the rescues when when it's come to flooding Myrtle Beach, they they don't want that. And certainly when that storm starts, the storm starts to hit here, even harder. There's going to be more of a concern. They don't know how much it flooding they're going to get if any. They're hoping that they don't, but they just don't know because it's kind of unusual to have a storm just to sit here and do what this one is doing. And this is obviously a huge tourist town. You're right on the coast. Did most people as far as you can tell heed the warnings and evacuate. The most Jake, but not all and let me show you. This is the strand here. You talk about a tourist town. There is some sixty some miles of beach and hotel and shoreline here in Myrtle Beach. And then when you have north Myrtle Beach, they've got some, they've got a long stretch of beach as well. But usually now this is in the northeast, you have your usually the season is from memorial to labor, and then people go back to work and they leave the beach downs. Not here talking to the former mayor last night. They said that their season can go all the way up into November all the way up until thanksgiving. So the people here losing a lot of money, and that's their livelihoods depend on it. They're losing money. Everything is closed when we were just out front on ocean boulevard here, not a store open, not a soul to be seen, so they've got it there dealing with it physically and fiscally as well j.. All right, Don lemon, stay safe. My friend Florence is right now battering the coastal city of Beaufort, north caroli-. China where nearly hundred mile per hour winds and pounding. Rain have left thousands without power. Joining me on the phone is the mayor of Beaufort, North Carolina, Everett Newton. Mr Mayor, thanks for joining us. Again, we talked yesterday at this time. How is your city holding up. Thank you. Yes, we, we still have forum where we've got foreign lots of trapeze really treacherous being out on the roads for those who didn't die. Please Karan play for those who did evacuate old in play. Tell you that it say the got also like to miss. Four. Mr.. Man, I'm sorry for I'm sorry for interrupting. You're breaking up a little bit. I don't know if there's a better part of of of wherever you are. Obviously, we want you to stay safe, but if there's a better part to to stand to get a better signal of possible and continue what you were saying. Okay, thank you. I just wanted to let you know Jake, that Nevada, half force one has showed up in eastern partner at county for searching rescues. So we greatly appreciate this port of the people of the bottle. Okay, great. That that came through loud and clear. We appreciate it. Your first responders are out right now, surveying the extent of the damage. Do you have the resources you need to handle the storm and its aftermath? I think right down really important that we just do the initial damage assessment here. We do have a power lines that are down with you have substantial flooding. We are evacuating people from Beaufort, Newport, middle school as well. So so let's do this initial damage assessment and we'll get the right people to come in and help us out. That's really appreciate that help you instituting the twenty four hour curfew for those who didn't evacuate are the locals who stayed behind. Are they heating that curfew. Most part, yes, they are heating and it is very treacherous roads right now, storm surge and flooding, obviously a major concern for you, particularly with the tide cycles. Can you give us a sense of how big a problem the storm surge in the tides have been and might be over the coming days. The flooding covered are are one or really resident and thanks to the road. So so, yeah, it's really a our community right now. There is no place for the water to go. We've got both high tides, so we've got this this bloody from the rain as well. All right. Mr Mayor, we're thinking about you thinking about your fellow north and south Carolinians if you need anything from us that you're not getting from the state or federal government, you let us know. Thank you. Know we've had tremendous support. Okay. That's good to hear. Mr Mayor. Thank you so much. We're following more breaking news President Trump's former campaign chairman, Paul Manafort agreed to a plea deal shockingly and this includes cooperating with Robert Mueller. What does what does manafort's? No plus hurricane Florence. Now, a deadly storm. At least four Americans have been killed. We're going to have more breaking news coverage on the storm ahead. Support for the lead comes from our friends at rocket mortgage by Quicken Loans. 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Slash the lead rate shield approval only valid on certain thirty year purchase transactions, additional condition. Or exclusions may apply based on Quicken Loans, data in comparison to public data records equal housing lender licensed in all fifty states and MLS consumeraccess dot org. Number thirty thirty. Welcome back. We're going to continue to follow hurricane Florence now, a deadly storm as it strikes the coasts of the Carolinas. But I wanna take a moment here and turn to a major development in politics today in the special counsels Russia. Investigation I plead guilty. These are words, Paul manafort's legal team once suggested the former Trump campaign chairman would never utter well, twelve. Eleven this afternoon in Washington DC the sixty nine year old. Not only admitted his guilt. He's now cooperating with special counsel, Muller giving information and agreeing to testify if need be. It's a stunning turn of events. The White House, of course, is downplaying. The significance of the president's former campaign chair entering into a plea agreement with the special counsel, saying quote, had absolutely nothing to do with the president or is victorious, two thousand sixteen presidential campaign. It is totally unrelated unquote. It is worth noting that manafort's guilty plea is the latest conviction by Muller's team, which includes President Trump's. Former national security adviser, Michael Flynn, deputy campaign chair, Rick gates and foreign policy advisor, George popadopoulos among convictions and plea deals among others. I wanna bring in n. CNN Justice correspondent Evan Perez Evan. The big question of course is, does Manafort know anything about any possible conspiracy between the Trump campaign and the Russians? What can you tell us about the cooperation Manafort is going to provide right. Exactly. Jake. That is the huge question that is that really hangs over today's events. But let me tell you the fact is according to the court documents that were filed today, Paul Manafort has agreed to give the government anything and anything and everything it wants. According to the document says, Paul Manafort has agreed to cooperate with the government on any and all matters as to which the government deems relevant. And this includes doing interviews and briefings with the special counsels prosecutors that includes Paul Manafort sitting with the prosecutors without any lawyer present. That includes turning over documents to the special prosecutor and to the Justice department for any cases that they may have as well as testifying in DC or anywhere else that prosecutors asked Paul Manafort to testify at the end of the day Paul, Paul Manafort had resisted this very, very event that that took place today in federal court, but it is everything that the prosecutors had been pushing for this negotiation, the the prosecution, and the metaphor team had been having these these negotiations with the last few days. And this is exactly where they the prosecution wanted them to end up. Manafort's lawyer tried to explain why Manafort took the guilty plea. That's right. Kevin, downing spoke to reporters briefly right after the court hearing, and again, he talked about the importance of helping Paul manafort's family. Here's what he had to say. He wanted to make sure that his family was able to remain safe and live a good life is accepted responsibility. And this is for conduct that dates back many years. And everybody should remember that. I hear you telegraphing there from Kevin downing that this had nothing to do with the president's campaign. So I think what you're hearing there, Jake is an effort to try to preserve the possibility of a pardon from President Trump. Should that come to pass? All right, Evan, Perez. Thanks so much. Let's talk about this with our experts. Adolfo the cooperation agreement includes interviews and briefings with a special counsel's office turning over documents testifying. In other proceedings, you're looking at the members of Trump's inner circle who are cooperating in various investigations, two minute the top of his campaign. There. It is right there at the top of his campaign has formal national security adviser, a personal lawyer and fixer. The CFO of the Trump organization should President Trump. He worried I don't. So, and I also why most of these I've been back not most all of these things we have seen today. Her really been Cohen. Issues metaphor, trial in Virginia. Nothing has had to do with that. I know of with the president or the campaign when I say the president of the presidential campaign. So I think there's a whole lot of interest on the part of prosecutors about what Paul Manafort knows about Soviet former Soviet Union oligarchs who've been around Russia for a very long period of time. If you read the actual agreement and paragraphs six and seven, I think this is an seen a lot of these are fairly border plate, yes. Why spread cooperation on a wide range of matters? You mentioned this piece at the beginning, he pleaded guilty. He pleaded guilty today to not registering as a lobbyist. I'm not minimizing that and the also pleaded guilty to witness tampering, talking to people and so forth. There is nothing today to suggest in either Virginia or in the matters that we are that we know about that there's anything to do with. With the president or or the president's campaign. So I think those were important things. The last thing I will say is he was facing a very tough financial situation here. Had he moved forward with this trial in the district of Columbia, I think that was a major factor. I think his lawyer has said it in this consideration, but I think really, frankly, I know the other guests would disagree. There's a lot of supposition here, but there's a wealth of knowledge even for the investigation that it might be useful to Mr. Mueller, but not in any way implicate the president. So do you disagree? I can't be dismissive when he actually guilty to conspiring to defraud the United States of America as well as I know you said so and so forth, witness witness, tampering, that's attraction of Justice. Both are not things to be dismissed lightly. And in fact, he also pled guilty and talked about the the Bank fraud charges about that happened in Virginia and that he will not appeal the eight convictions happening in the or the remaining ten that were part of the hung jury. So frankly, I can't be. Dismissive. And of course the president should be nervous. Not if he believes he has myopia that he is the only thing that problem here, but the president of the United States should be concerned with people. You listed on the screen. They're just now Jake, that there are connections to members of his campaign and the ferris behavior. Now that is this democracy. And I would think as the president keep because about that. One of the other things that's interesting about this as an August President Trump tweeted quote, unlike Michael Cohen, he- he- meaning Paul Manafort refused to break make up stories in order to get a deal, such respect for a brave band. So the president was in August saying, it's so great. The Paul Manafort hasn't flipped, hasn't done what Michael Collin did now he hands. Yeah, now he has. I think that's why you saw Kevin down in choose the words that he did because you know their secret obviously that Paul Manafort and his team are certainly hoping that he can still get a pardon that's harder to do when the president was praising him for not. Flipping. And now he has this cooperation agreement. The one thing that I would say is the best possible case scenario for President Trump is he now comes out of this after being the candidate who pledged to drain the swamp after being the guy who bragged about hiring the best people basically being surrounded by a bunch of crooks. If you look at his campaign chairman, if you look at the deputy to Paul Manafort, if you look at Mike Flynn the national security advisor, if you look at his personal lawyer, all of these people have pleaded guilty. All of these people have had to deal with investigators because they basically tried to enrich themselves. And this is a guy who said that he was not going to be beholden to anyone who is going to drain the swamp in Washington, and that's the best case scenario for the president. So he might not be personally implicated in a lot of this stuff, but it's hard to walk away without without judging the kind of aftermath here we do want to remind people. Paul Manafort has maintained throughout this whole time that he has nothing to flip on. He has no information that's negative about Donald Trump, right? We should remind people that he was at that infamous Trump Tower meeting. With the the woman who was billed as a Russian government lawyer with dirt on Hillary Clinton. But again, we know of no crime committed by the Trump campaign per se. What what? We need to know what Howard Baker in the Watergate committee, he's a Senator from Tennessee, what he asked what to the president know and when did he know it? Mr. Manafort would not have gotten this deal. If he did not have information that Muller does not yet have and more has everything. So he's got to have something. I have no idea if it implicates president, but he's gonna wanna know, for example, at that Trump Tower meeting which you attended with Donald Trump, junior, who set up the meeting after being told the Russian government wants to help your father by giving you dirt on Hillary Trump. Junior says, if that's if that's the case, I love it. So they have the meeting and according to congressional testimony from Trump junior before and after the meeting, there were calls placed by Trump junior to a block number. We know that Mr. Trump's apartment has a block. Number Trump junior says, I don't remember. Metaphor can tell us did Trump no. Right around that meeting. Donald Trump on the campaign trail calls calls a press conferences. I'm gonna major speech about Hillary Clinton and how dirty she is right after his son and campaign chairman and son-in-law were promised dirt on Hillary. The circumstantial evidence before you have Manafort flipping is really powerful that Trump personally colluded to try to help the Russians steal the election from Hillary. What are the disadvantages Jacob going? I everybody gets to comment. It's all good to come on what they said it quickly on this first of all, Paula. I think that's also position on your part and I understand they're not Faxon this guard. There are a lot of things about pep. We just had a trial in Virginia that had absolutely nothing to do with President Trump, and it had to do with Paul manafort's business dealings. And I think American intelligence might also be very interested in pursuing some of these matters with Mr. Manafort. So we don't know that Secondly, with all due respect is in this country. Yes, those are nice values and I share them all, but guilt by association is not a crime. So if you have you have you had people know about you, but we do have people involved in a campaign and every administration has had problems with certain facials. I don't think that's an indictment on the president in the legal sense. And Lastly, Mr Manafort has never been part an appointee of the Trump administration or part of the administration. Obviously, these are longtime political operatives at all. These you're one of them. Paul that people have to hire for presidential campaigns. So I think. People are really trying to try to find something here when we don't have nearly enough information and everything we've had to date that's been revealed in Virginia. And in the Cohen, the president did attack, but we didn't falls flippers after Mr. Cohen said a lot of nasty things purportedly about Mr. Trump. We haven't seen that for them from Paul Manafort quick with. Quick quick, which is false because the actual mandate of Robert Muller is not to attack the president or Donald Trump. It was too pro whether or not there was collusive activity between members of the Trump campaign and a foreign nation that being Russia, and they have to ask the question answer, which is part of what he did today by saying, why would another country who was Ukraine, friendly believe they had a receptive ear in this campaign at this time when I am broke after squandering sixty million dollars now say I'll work for free those the kind of things you have to look at not just simply an attack on Donald Trump. It was the campaign that Muller is probing with us, not President Trump necessarily. We will. We will talk more about this everyone. Thank you so much for right now back to our other major breaking story today, Cain Florence and river bend, North Carolina, Cruz all the way from New York City or helping to rescue residents from the rising floodwaters brought by Florence officials have confirmed that this destructive storm has now turned deadly. We're going to go live on the scene next, stay with us. Soccer fans are you? Tired of missing great UEFA games and giving soul crushing spoilers from friends, good news. Bleacher reports, new VR live that helps you wash all UEFA Champions League and wait for your openly games. Uninterrupted, because live should be live nowhere third-party sites, cramping, your style, or scouring the internet for updates. Now with VR live super easy to get started, download the app to be our dot, live more live over everything in subscription purchase and additional terms may apply. Back with our breaking news. The Cajun navy is in the Carolinas, the group of all in tears formed in the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina out today, rescuing residents, including some of the hardest, some from the hardest hit places such as new Bern, North Carolina, where the storm surge has in some parts been over ten feet. Let's go to c. n. n.'s Diane Gallagher, who's in new Bern and Diane, you're learning pausing rescues there. There had been a pause in rescues in for the most part, it was due to the fact that they've been able to get everybody who had been requesting. Those rescues Jake, but we're in high tide. We're going to be in high tide for another four hours and we have been watching the water rise. Some of it had receded a bit, especially in the downtown area where it got up so high yesterday when we were out here, they had to do rescues overnight. In the theory, it receded som- they were able to get most of those rescues completed in river been in downtown newborn, but now we're in high tide again. And so those rescues are likely going to kick back up within the next hour to as people start to realize that the water is creeping back up when I was out on both with rescuers today, volunteer group that had driven down from Maryland overnight. Spent the whole night rescuing. Jake woke up after about two hours of sleep and spend all day doing the same. There were people who refuse rescue when we were out on that boat, they waved at us from their top floor window and said, no, no, no, I don't wanna be. Rescued. I'm just fine. I want to stay here with that. Water is just gonna get higher. And so emergency officials are saying, if you are locked in your house right now, you were stuck there on your second floor. You need to find a way to get out. And the only way you can do that is with professional help because when we were out there, Jake Allnutt vote, sometimes it was two feet three feet deep. Other times it was eight feet, maybe even higher as we were trying to get through a neighborhood going over street front yard and bushes you can see right now to MRs probably the heaviest rain that we have had all day here in Newburgh is has been mostly a rising water because of the storm third event with a pretty steady rain, but really hard driving rain that we're experiencing right now and have been for about the hat. Half hour is the most we have had since this storm really started in this part of the state. So the rescuers I talked to said they're expecting to go out and complete more rescues. They received nearly two hundred calls here in craven county for. Four hundred eighty eight. People were told that most of those rescues were completed by either people who work for craven county FEMA with water teams or these volunteers, Cajun navy. The swiftwater rescuers who came down from Maryland other volunteers from showed up with their votes to help take. We're really watching that human spirit here in craven county as their working against this rising water. That again continues to just get higher here and there have been times at the water in new Bern, Diane has been up to up to ten feet. What what are they doing about the people in the danger zone. So initially they tried to get everybody out to start with by making it a mandatory evacuation. They use the bosses, but look, people stayed whether it was before the financial reasons they're worried about their pets. They didn't think the storm is going to be serious enough so they have been sending those votes out. You know, usually they say, we're not gonna come get your during the storm, and they did say that. But Jake, they did go and get people. They did rescues all night long. They've been working around the clock in these votes the national guard. They're in very large vehicles coming backing up into houses, trying to get people onto the, the upper part of it, bringing them in there working as hard as they can to get people out of their homes. The problem now with they're trying to put them in shelters. There are no rooms in hotel. They're all full. We had evacuees from river been at the hotel where we were staying. They were trying to find anywhere to stay. There's no power. So the hotels are having a hard time doubling and tripling up in the areas to give shelter. And so right now they're looking for places to go up. They don't have any. They don't have the vehicles. A lot of times they don't have any of their personal belongings. And at this point, a lot of people are starting to feel really loss and really desperate here in in craven county. Jake, there's a lot of tears that we're seeing from people. A lot of people saying, I don't know what I'm gonna do. I didn't think it was actually going to be this bad because it was reduced down to a category two at that time, and I don't know what I'm gonna do right now. We're seeing a lot of parents with mall. Children who kind of are at a loss at this point or buying Gallagher, stay safe, appreciate it. Part of the challenge in the city of new Bern is that the city is surrounded by two rivers, which is being pounded with tremendous rainfall in storm surge being pushed in from the ocean. That's why you keep hearing about new Bern. Joining me on the phone right now is gene Hodges. He's the assistant county manager for craven county where newborn is located Jane. Thanks for joining us. You're at the emergency operation center in newborn. I hear right now you've had nearly two hundred rescue calls around five hundred people and this. Is obviously just the beginning. That's for sure. And this is, you know, the storm is still ongoing. What we're still taking calls, you know, going our dispatching as quickly as we can in order to affect rescues. We're working with state federal partners and volunteer groups that are really providing a great service and complementing what we can do. And how many rescue teams do you have out right now? A main last count that I've been working specifically with us is a, no, we've got at least five, which swiftwater rescue. Then there's that there was a private volunteer group, the the Cajun navy. They're really, they've really been engaged and working with us to try to fit rescues and help people as quickly as we can. We saw some tweets earlier today from residents tweeting to try to get help. We're told that they've since been rescued, what's the best way for someone to get help if they need it would be to contact emergency operation center. That number. Is six three, six, six, six zero eight to get that information logged in or you the best way to if if you're in a safe of fairly safe situation where you can you know where you can get away from the flood waters. If if you're at a place, you can get to the first or second four, you know and move up. Then then call that number if a more of an emergent situation, especially if it's more of a severe medical situation you know than than we need probably would want to try to call now one one, but I I I try to call six three six six, six zero eight six three six, six, six zero eight. And Jean lastly, what's your message to any other residents who may be in their homes right now is if you can get outside, we please, please please try to do. So we're going to be in a long period of recovery when we get through and and and it will be easier to get lights on the people, the easier to get trees out. If people either were not, we're not. In the area or if people would stay inside their homes because there's, there's a lot of look, there's all down power lines as a lot of water. Water electricity do not meet do not mix well, and that's, that's one of the thing I just want to have to be made will where of every time I'm looking around. All right with craven county, North Carolina. Thank you. Good luck to you and the people of craven county. Obviously, we hope you're getting everything you need from the state and federal government. If you do not if you need help, let us know it. CNN we'll do what we can for you. Appreciate it. Okay. We know at least four people have been killed so far in as a result of hurricane Florence in Wilmington, North Carolina. A huge tree fell on a house which killed a mother, and her baby's c. n. n.'s Brian Todd is on the scene there for CNN and Brian, we could unfortunately see a lot of situations like this when the ground is so saturated. These older larger trees are vulnerable to a storm such as this. That's right. Jake. They are very vulnerable. Even this thirty thousand pound tree that fell down on this house right behind us. We're going to zoom in. I'll go in a little bit closer here. This happened the the nine one one call came in about seven AM eastern time. Rescue crews got here. They got here with reinforcements. We got here a short time after that. What we saw was that they extracted one of the three people in the house, a man who was pinned under something. They brought a surgical team in and thought they might have to amputate possibly his leg that he was pinned under, but they were able to move some objects and holds some other objects in place in full, come out and get him to some medical care. He was the survivor here, but unfortunately, the woman who was in here at her very young child died, but rescuers were here for roughly eight hours and we were here for most of that, witnessing it and talking to first responders as they were coming in and out furiously working to cut through this, the wood of the tree, the bricks of the house. They got him. There and they, they even tossed out dresser drawers that they had to demolish and get out of the way they were working just furiously for hours. And you mentioned the conditions here it is saturated. It was saturation even before the storm hit. And you can see that old and very large tree was too so vulnerable to the storm and came crashing down on this house. And this is a brick house has got a solid foundation, but obviously couldn't withstand anything like that. Jake and these conditions here that you're seeing this is pelting rain that has been just this pounding on us all day long. And of course, on all of our other teams, it kind of comes and goes as as you know. But these conditions have made it even tougher for first responders to get to these areas. And almost every one of these streets there down power lines down trees. These first responders have to navigate through all of that to get to places like this and they're doing yeoman's work. They're doing heroic work and trying to get to these places the effort that they undertook to get the man out of here and. And save his life was just unbelievable. But they, you know, despite their efforts saved the woman and child who were here, and I talked to a battalion chief who who was very emotional about it. He said, you know, these guys are just exhausted physically exhausted, but when it involves a child, it just really gets to you even more. So he was almost in tears when he talked to us about that, Jake. So very emotional scene here, and it had a very bad outcome obviously. Okay. Okay. Cryan time, horrible story out of Wilmington, North Carolina. Thank you so much. We're just seconds away from the newest forecast about hurricane Florence. Will the monster storm speed up or will keep stalling, but these massive amounts of rain stay with us. So many people around the world depend on CNN's quality reporting, and now they have an incredible online store with clothes gear and gadgets. Right now you can get fifteen percent off your purchase, just visit store dot, CNN dot com. And when you're checking out into the code CNN podcast, just one word and get a fifteen percent discount. It's that simple that's store dot, CNN dot com. We're back with our breaking news coverage of hurricane Florence now, a deadly storm hitting the Carolinas. Let's go right to c. n. n.'s Martin savage and rights, Phil beach, North Carolina, where hurricane Florence made landfall this morning. Martin tell us about the damage report. Well, that was ten hours ago. Jake. And the amazing thing is, is that ten hours later, the conditions haven't really changed that much which gives you an indication of just how powerful and how large this storm is the wind direction shit. So it's got about a one eighty, but we're just getting hammered. Now it's coming up in this direction says very hard. Look that way without feeling like you gotta face inhales. What we're hearing from riceville beach, which is the barrier island just behind that. We can't go there right now because just too dangerous. The is closed in the winds still. But for those who stayed behind in the first responders that are there, they're saying that they have been seeing some structural damage. They can't assess exactly how much because they're hunkered down the do. They got some very serious beach erosion there and those prize. That's the Atlantic Ocean pounding up against the surf line there. And then on top of that, they've also got water in the streets. It's a combination of going from the intercoastal. Here is your heavy storm search, and it's the rain that falls. They get a lot to deal with. All right. Savage stay safe. He's in rightful beach, North Carolina, CNN meteorologist, Jennifer, gray. Has the brand new update on Florence from the National Hurricane Center? Jennifer? Is there any slowdown in speed that would be more bad news or is it speeding up? What? What do they say? Unfortunately, Jacob's slowing down even more three miles per hour is speed. So it's pretty much just sitting still. It's also now a tropical storm has been downgraded to that. But as we've been saying this storm all along the winds, it's not what matters. What matters is the catastrophic flooding is still going to continue the storm surge is still going to continue regardless of the category because we still have that onshore flow. And we've been getting that for the last twenty four to thirty six hours and we're still getting these cities like new Bern, morehead city, Wilmington, still getting all of this rain that they've been getting such yesterday morning and that storm is just crawling down to the south west three mile. As per hour, you can walk faster than this storm is moving Newburn still getting a downpour right there all across the Outer Banks still getting hit very hard. We still have the gusty winds in that river flooding is going to be a problem. Jake all the way into the middle part of next week. We're lot of these rivers across portions of North Carolina are going to be at record levels. So we'll be talking about this. So the middle part of the week, at least our Jennifer gray and the CNN severe weather center. Thank you so much. Hundreds of thousands of people are in the dark right now because of Florence, and that number is only expected to grow just how bad the power outages are. That's next day with us. Breaking news coverage of Florence now, a deadly tropical storm responsible for at least four deaths. Let's go right to CNN's, Nick wadis in north Myrtle Beach, South Carolina, and Nick, all the water from Florence is starting to take a toll on that beach town. It is mean as this storm moves towards where we are. We're on the grand strand, which is normally a sixty mile stretch of beautiful sunkissed Carolina sand, but not today by any stretch nuts. So far. The head of the safety department here in town tells me that just some dime trees, some downed power lines, and he says, we are lucky right now. Now the question is whether that luck holds through the night as this storm moves down towards South Carolina. There will be a point tonight where in north Myrtle Beach, we will be basically between the eye of the storm and the ocean. So the question is, how much rain is gonna fall from the sky and how much that ocean is going to surge. So far, no injuries, no major damage hero that we did just see a fire truck. Go past sirens blaring. We haven't heard from the fire chief exactly what is going on there yet, but it's going to be a wet long windy night, Jay. All right, Nick wa. Thank you so much. Stay safe in Wilmington north. Carolina. This video captured the moment, a transformer blew. You can see a huge flash before some sparking, and then a parking lot plunging into darkness. As we approach the evening hours Florence's already caused widespread power outages. Let's go to CNN's, Tom foreman at the magic wall for more on that problem, Tom, what are the latest numbers and where are we seeing the most outages? Jake as this hour, Florence has left more than a half million homes without power in North Carolina alone. The number's been fluctuating throughout the day of measure of the confusion there. Thousands more neighboring states to, and that number could certainly grow. Perhaps in a big way is the rains and floods go on through the weekend. This map from the biggest power provider in North Carolina. Duke Energy shows almost every county was affected and some were hit particularly hard left with almost no electricity in New Hanover County Down here where Wilmington is more than one hundred. Fourteen thousand people affected the vast majority of their customers. They're the. Same story up here in Carteret county with twenty four thousand people in the dark. Some of the other counties here in yellow had fourteen fifteen sixteen thousand without power about halfway across the state trails off into the hundreds, but still very widespread outages and a big challenge for power providers. Jake, Tom with the storms still grinding away still apparently even slowing down how soon does the power company to state officials think they can get the lights back on for these folks? In some cases, it might even be a matter of life and death, not soon at all. In some places, every power provider we talked to said, they have to be super careful as long as the storm hangs around to keep their crews from being hurt or stranded in the flood. Even when it's safe to go back to work. This is an arduous process. They have to start with the big parts of the electrical grid than they can focus on the substations and getting powered critical sites like hospitals and police stations and water treatment plants and only then, can they truly focus on. In getting the lights on in homes out there, and that could actually take weeks, Jake. All right, Tom foreman. This sure to tune in this Sunday morning to state of the union. My guest will be rising democratic star, New York congressional candidate. Alexandria Cossio Cortez. It starts at nine AM and noon eastern on Sunday. We'll obviously also cover the storm and the aftermath. Our coverage right now on CNN continues. Thanks for watching. See you Sunday morning. 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