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"senator kyrsten sinema" Discussed on On Point with Tom Ashbrook | Podcasts

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"senator kyrsten sinema" Discussed on On Point with Tom Ashbrook | Podcasts

"When we were first trying to trying to figure out. I need to get more exercise than you do stuff with my body and i was really like oh i can start tracking my steps. I'm like i am struggling to get five hundred steps right now in my mind. I had the thing like you're supposed to get ten thousand steps a day. That's how you stay healthy forever. And i was like five hundred and now up to almost five thousand a day and the joy every time i walk outside and i'm like okay i can add another block can add another link of the street like maybe it will still be possible for me to be in nature. The way i love right. I go with my sweetheart my fiance. I guess that's something you not now. Last time i was on the show. Is i experienced a very romantic proposal and i said yes to that. So yeah my fiance. You know. I don't know anyone who could truly make it through this pandemic themselves. However you're in contact however you're finding a relationship feels so important so clearly tagger people. That's adrien marie brown author of pleasure activism the politics of feeling good and emergent strategy shaping. Change changing worlds in the coming weeks. We will continue to be talking with more on point guests who joined us over this past year about what that experience has been like for them and their thoughts about covid about this country and their lives. Now i magnin tucker bardy. This is.

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"senator kyrsten sinema" Discussed on On Point with Tom Ashbrook | Podcasts

On Point with Tom Ashbrook | Podcasts

02:05 min | 2 d ago

"senator kyrsten sinema" Discussed on On Point with Tom Ashbrook | Podcasts

"By how much joy ever see from being in close contact with my family. We are still doing a weekly call with each other and often. The children get on my my little nibbling skit on and just being able to see their faces even rowing see them changing and all of us like learning how to share so much more of our lives with each other. We've always been close. Family loved each other. But now it's different when you're in a rhythm of weekly visual contact right. Anyone a psycho was happening with your spirit. What's happening with your health. Lake house the house. You know you start to have a better intimate sensitive cheddar. My uncle he went to jamaica with his girlfriend and some friends and they came back and three out of four of them were sick with covid and he passed away so that was really difficult. You know directly. Like oh. I don't i don't get to be with him. I don't get to see him again. And then knowing the impact that has on my family moment was a really hard one even under duress. There's still a choice available of feeling feelings within circling back around to and then. Where's the aliveness in this moment was possible still for me in this moment and sometimes the allied is just. I have a shoulder to cry on. Thank god for that. I worked hard for that. You know and help people who really love and care about me. Outside of anything that happens on the internet that is really helpful It actually brings me joy to just sits and fans reflect on on. Who's in my life right now. I'll say one more thing which has been just literally walking around the block. Make going outside to walk around block. And i have early onset. Arthritis that is is can be very debilitating so.

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"senator kyrsten sinema" Discussed on On Point with Tom Ashbrook | Podcasts

On Point with Tom Ashbrook | Podcasts

07:05 min | 2 d ago

"senator kyrsten sinema" Discussed on On Point with Tom Ashbrook | Podcasts

"There's another interesting lear. we have to talk about. You mentioned it earlier that it's not just you know. How much is she willing to advance. Her party's agenda but also the state that she represents And so it's gotta be part of her current political calculus to two way what the cost would be if she just wholeheartedly said well. Let's abolish the filibuster. I mean how would that go over in arizona. You know i. I don't know that that's an interesting question. Because i think that you know this is a state that continues to evolve. What we do know is that when she wanted twenty eighteen for example she won by two point. Three percentage points And it was the first time that a democrat won they the senate race in arizona in thirty years. When you look at marquel who is her counterpart in the senate from arizona. He won by two point. Three percentage points and of course everybody remembers the joe biden won arizona last year but it was by zero point. Three percentage point. What you've got a what seems to be in some ways. A recent track record of great success for democrats in this state and that is something that emboldened folks on the left here to feel like they can they can win and they can get what they want seemingly but at the same time the state legislature got more conservative The night she was elected to the senate the gubernatorial democratic candidate was wiped out by double digit and so there is relatively narrow path that has been shown to work in this state. But it's unclear as to just how far you can take it in the near term. I think that's part of what is is guiding her liberation on these issues. Yeah so adam. You used to work for harry reid From that area of the country. I genuinely want to know what you think. About what good would it do. The democrats if kirstin cinema for example decided to pivot. And say we're gonna do that. Fifteen dollar minimum wage. We're going to abolish the filibuster. I'm going to fully embrace the you know the progressive Desires desires of the party. And then she gets voted out by arizona voters. I mean this has to be part of the the larger calculus here. It certainly does and i you know. I want to be realistic about the political realities that she faces. And what you have to do to win in arizona but but even by that metric. It's she is farther to the right then Many other senators who come from even redder states. You know I would point to someone like john tester from montana which trump won by sixteen points Who hasn't been an ardent advocate filibuster reform but his shown a very clear openness to it on a number of occasions in his taken a position of you know. I don't wanna do it. I'm not rushing to do it but if it becomes necessary i'm willing to consider reform and so you know that's a senator who represents a state trump won by sixteen points and cinema represents a state that biden one albeit narrowly. So she's putting herself even further to the right than other senators who have much harder political realities back home Senator reid yo came from nevada which has been blue in the last few elections but is still swing state His philosophy and frankly the way he won his last reelection race in two twenty. Ten was that you have to sort of dance with the folks that brung ya and you know. He committed to the democratic agenda. He committed to president obama's agenda in a very strong way and that caused there to be very high turnout in his reelection race particularly among the latino population in nevada Polls were showing him losing and he won unexpectedly and so. I think you know one way to approach these things and certainly mark kelly. Her fellow senator from arizona. has been much more open to fillibuster reform and other issues than she is. So it's you know even arizona's a narrow state it is possible To support the democratic agenda and some would argue even more beneficial politically to show the people who put you in office who knocked doors and donated campaign that you are going to support the policies that they wanna see an active right. Well we'll have to keep following this story especially braun love to have you back on the show to about how things play out in arizona whether or not senator cinema experiences any blowback for example for not showing up for the vote on january six commissioner going to vice. President harasses dinner. Bipartisan dinner for women in congress. But we'll stop this here for now. Ron hansen covers congress for the arizona republic. It was great to have iran. Thank you so much for having me. And by the way do check out his podcast. The gaggle an atom gentlemen executive director of battle born collective and author of kill switch. It was great to have you back. Thank you great start again. Make the thank you well. The american urge to constantly look forward and yes even as we just demonstrated right here on point can also lead to another american peculiarity. A collective historical amnesia even for the most recent events and we do not want to fall into that trap especially as this country has gone through an historic pandemic one. That's not even over yet. So we have been reaching out to guests who joined us this past kovic year. And we've been asking them to reflect on where they were and where they are now. Adrien marie brown is author of pleasure activism the politics of feeling good and emergent strategy shaping change and changing world. She joined us last year to talk about finding joy in the midst of overwhelming world events. It is absolutely the normal thing right now to be grieving every day. Like don't try to run away from that. Don't try to put joy on top of that. You can't deny feel it and then adapt like the adaptations. I'm making our idea to talk to my family. Every day i want to see their faces every week. That's as much as we can do right now. Be with uncertainty the small one step at a time. Your best bestself. In that moment that was last year we played the moment back to her recently. And here's how she reacted. I definitely feel the wave of grief that moves through me. Bet site been moving through in his still moving through in that moment and i feel gratitude listening to it. Because i'm like. Oh yes i have been in such good contact with my family and my loved ones. This has year has been a year of realizing how much we matter to each other and taking it seriously. I'm grateful that yes. That's that's feel. And that's what. I've been practicing. She shared with this past year has been like for her I've been astounded.

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"senator kyrsten sinema" Discussed on On Point with Tom Ashbrook | Podcasts

On Point with Tom Ashbrook | Podcasts

06:34 min | 2 d ago

"senator kyrsten sinema" Discussed on On Point with Tom Ashbrook | Podcasts

"This is on point. i'm meghna chakrabarti. And today we're learning. All we can about the political past and present of arizona. Senator kirsten cinema and therefore trying to understand what the future of her party. The democratic party might be joined today by. Ron hansen covers congress and state politics for the arizona republic and as e central. He's also co host of the podcast. The gaggle is with us from phoenix at them is with us as well. As former deputy chief of staff for then majority leader. Harry reid and author of kill switch the rise of the modern senate and inevitably we have arrived at the conversation over senator cinemas defense of the filibuster in the senate and last month as she toured the united states. Mexico border and border patrol facilities alongside. Texas republican senator. John cornyn she was asked by reporters regarding her support of the filibuster s folks in arizona. Long been a supporter of the filibuster. Because it is a tool that protects the democracy our nation rather than allowing our country to ricochet wildly every two to four years back and forth between policies. The idea of the filibuster was to create comedy and to encourage senators to find bipartisanship and work together and while there are some who don't believe that bipartisanship is possible. I think that i'm a daily example. That bipartisanship is possible. Adam i believe you take exception to senator cinemas historical analysis of the filibuster i do. It's just not accurate. You know her. Her defensive filibusters has been routinely characterized by these kind of Mis- misleading statements You know the filibuster wasn't created by the framers in fact the framers were Very vehemently opposed to the filibuster or anything like existing. They were very specific that they thought that if any sort of supermajority requirement requiring more than a majority to pass things in the senate existed They predicted that. It would lead to gridlock. Just as we are seeing today It didn't exist in the senate for most of its existence. The senate was a majority rule body for two hundred years and only really become a phenomenon In recent decades so this idea that is this historic Foundational element of the senate is just simply not not true. And and it's not just me saying this. This is a widely accepted fact among historians scientists. Well can i just turn back to around here for second. Because ron Again i just want to give your podcast. The gaggle great shout out. It's fantastic. But i was listening to A recent interview that you did with senator cinema for a couple of months ago a little earlier this spring and you and your co host. Just flat out astor. She's being naive about the possibility. For bipartisanship and comedy in the senate which i thought was excellent question especially given given the the political savvy that she has historically shown we've talked about earlier show given the fact that she's got an educational Cvb longer than my arm and how so. How did she respond to the question about. Is she being naive about the possibility for comedy in the senate she is she paying that she thinks that bipartisanship still exist and that it's something that is a hard process that you can get If you're willing to do the work and that's something that i think to a lot of folks these days it just feels like it doesn't reconcile with their lived experience of contemporary politics And i think that that's where this great tension by is at the moment especially with Democratic and liberal activists net. She seems committed to an ideal that to them seems You know antiquated if not extinct. But so adam. I mean it that ideal may seem extinct. I would say for a reason because one of the things that she told in that interview that he did with her he she. She went back to her her notion about. You've got to change behavior in the senate. Don't change the rules. Don't change the historic rules. A change the behavior of the people operating within those rules but it but in but in the in the in the current senate. Where as you know. I mentioned earlier senator mitch. Mcconnell has repeatedly said his goal as it was for the obama administration for the biden administration is to simply stop to. Stop all the administration's agenda. Where are the incentives at all for behavior change in the modern senate that that's exactly right on the incentives for behavior change point into the exact opposite direction that she wants to move in republicans have enormous incentives not to cooperate with democrats and and enormous incentives to block president agenda. This is exactly what they did to president obama and i hate to say it but it worked for them it. It yielded enormous political gains for them. Sad as it may be to say that. So i think it is. It is a naive refusal to open your eyes and look around and recognize the world that we live in where republicans simply have enormous incentives not not to provide the ten additional votes. The democrats need to pass anything through filibuster when irony is that the current sixty vote threshold is in many ways blocking bipartisanship You all you have to do is look at the vote. For instance on january six commission a few weeks ago where seven republicans did actually cross over and vote with democrats. But because that wasn't enough to get you to sixty that vote failed so because of the existence of the filibuster an opportunity for a bipartisan vote to establish a commission failed you know. And if filibuster didn't exist this thing would have passed with fifty five fifty six fifty seven votes and we would right now have january six commission so not only is it somewhat naive to expect frequent bipartisanship in the rare instances where it does appear to be possible the sixty vote threshold is preventing it from happening because it's just too high a hurdle to clear right now well so ron hansen As as we played some tape earlier regarding Where senator cinema comes from in terms of her approach..

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"senator kyrsten sinema" Discussed on On Point with Tom Ashbrook | Podcasts

On Point with Tom Ashbrook | Podcasts

06:45 min | 2 d ago

"senator kyrsten sinema" Discussed on On Point with Tom Ashbrook | Podcasts

"Later arizona passed proposition one or two which was a much more narrower focus only on lgbt and that one passed by the voters by a large margin and so we ended up losing the war in a way even though she won one battle and our concern was that she was not by not being willing to talk about the real issues right. This campaign was ultimately in anti lgbt campaign. By not being willing to talk about that she was doing nothing to advance our longer term agenda. And i think this is an issue that i would say Is concerning in that we she talks a lot you know in her book Subsequent launched on her national campaigns. In many ways it gave her a platform to talk about success and united conquer. Her book was very much about coalition building. I think are the issue that i have is that when you are working towards coalitions you have to have a common shared goal. And in this case. I would argue that the the message framing really wasn't about building a larger coalition there was larger coalition that could have been built but even You know alan maxine. Heterosexual senior couple ultimately came out and said that. Lgbtq quality marriage is not their issue. That's not building a coalition. That's not that's not a building a group of people that have a common a shared End result that they wanna see you know it is impossible to not wonder about the the parallels between the experience that you're talking about in two thousand six two thousand seven and now senator kirsten cinemas approach in the united states senate Because can't you're describing a situation where it sounds like you were. you're trying to T to convince pearson cinema that you might win this battle but you're gonna lose the war overall and then and then two years later when prop one or two did pass. Defining marriage is the union between one man and one woman in arizona. Did you ever talk to her about that. That what you had foreseen actually took place. And if so how did she respond. I did not i honest with you. between those two periods between two thousand six in two thousand eight i did have conversations with her. She was invited. And this is what i meant by kind of catapult for her onto a national stage because she was invited to speak about the success of one of seven and there were places where sometimes i would be at those events in have a smaller speaking role but my message was consistently. This is not a long-term winning strategy So night. I wanna be clear because she did win right. It was the first state to win One of these propositions so i. It's the hard thing with cinema. Because i have a lot of of admiration respect for her in many ways she is very smart and a very good strategist and she really doesn't understand how how to win. And at the same time. I actually found that. She was kind of dismissive. Right of she felt like she knew. Best how to approach things and Was somewhat dismissive of other other viewpoints. Once she kinda sets her mind to a way to achieve something while kent burbank is chair of the lgbtq. Plus alliance fund of the community foundation for southern arizona teaches social work at pima community college as well and as we mentioned he worked with kirstin cinema from two thousand six to two thousand seven as part of a group called arizona. Together with us from tucson. Today kent burbank. That was absolutely fascinating. Thank you so much for joining us. Thank you. It's been a pleasure all right well. Let's turn now briefly to adam jensen. He is executive director of the battle. Born collective progressive strategy and communications firm former deputy chief of staff for then majority leader harry reid and author of kill switch the rise of the modern senate adam. Welcome back to one point. Thank you magnets. Great to be here so tell us what you think about the story tent burbank. Just told us Because he described actually quite a tactically savvy state level. Lawmaker there in two thousand six. But again you know. He had warned her. You're gonna win that the battle over prop one seven but you might lose the long term war regarding the the rights of the lgbtq community in arizona. Yeah it's a fascinating story. I i listened raptly to that account. You know and You know as i think can was careful to point out. There's there's certainly two sides to the story In it's easy to see her perspective as well as as well as his But what. I think is really interesting about the way that cinema has conducted herself. The last few months is it's far less clear now. What the even tactical benefit of a lot of the things that she's doing is to her And you know i. I should be clear that. I'm i'm a very strong advocate of of filibuster reform That's a lot of what the book is about But but even if you pull back and sort of take my own issue preferences illogical preferences out of the mix Just from a brass tacks political perspective. It's not clear What benefits she is gaining from a lot of the things she's doing. It seems to be alienating. A lot of her allies It's hurt her approval ratings in the state And it's just not. It's not clear what the constituency is for the for the type of performative bipartisanship that she seems set on pursuing. Well ron of just thirty seconds before we have to take a break here do you. Have you been able to get an answer from senator cinema about who she thinks are perceived. Constituency is in the championing of bipartisanship. She i think wants to say that. She is representing all arizona and is trying to play the game. Here recognizing the political winds can shift in a way that people don't always like well. We're gonna come back with a lot more about How cinemas political pass now continues to inform present and the present and future of her party the democratic party. So we'll be right back. This is point learned..

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"senator kyrsten sinema" Discussed on On Point with Tom Ashbrook | Podcasts

On Point with Tom Ashbrook | Podcasts

09:06 min | 2 d ago

"senator kyrsten sinema" Discussed on On Point with Tom Ashbrook | Podcasts

"Thousand six to two thousand seven as part of a group called arizona together. Who were attempting to fight proposition one. Oh seven back then. A ballot proposal that sought to ban gay marriage in arizona. Kent burbank. Welcome to you thank you. Hello nice to be on your show. You heard ron hansen. There describe a little bit about cureton cinemas early life. Her admirable extremely admirable education Tell us about what kind of person she was when you first began working with her again in a sort of early early two thousand six two thousand seven period. Sure yeah so I i found curson cinema at that point to be kind of a transition period Where her reputation was one of being A kind of firebrand progressive I found her to be brilliant. Very politically savvy shrewd She's also as know a little bit larger than life. Insert she's fun. She's charismatic dynamic In our work together It was not without challenges We were working At a statewide coalition to try to defeat a anti marriage equality proposition. On that would change the arizona constitution. Okay so when you say is sometimes. I feel this larger than life can you. Can you describe what you mean. She is full of energy. A kirstin cinema can be. I think other people know a little. A little theatrical. She's very intentional about her image and her presentation and uses that again as you were mentioning we. We don't want to get into talking about her appearance but at the same time i think she's very aware of her appearance. How she comes across now she uses up. Okay so so then tell me more about more specifically about the work. The two of you did together what what brought cinema into the efforts to to fight proposition. One oh seven yes so. She was one of the co chairs along with a man named steve may forming the statewide coalition called arizona. Together with the goal of defeating This proposition As part of a statewide coalition. I will at that. Point was the director of a lgbtq community center in tucson and we were actually the largest in terms of staff and budget lgbtq organization in the state But we're not a political. We were a community center. Doing a lot of social services type of work is social worker and so we were working together to try to defeat this early on. There was an agreement that we would be Trying to really make this a data driven Campaign and later that became a pretty big source of contention among well particularly between Folks in phoenix on curson steve running that campaign and the folks in tucson There are large differences in the state. Phoenix is obviously the capital. It is about four or five times. The population of tucson and as ron was mentioning. It is a republican stronghold and has been for a very long time tucson's the smaller democratic stronghold and so early on they really wanted to adhere to very strict messaging based on the polling data and that polling data was telling them that words like justice equality and fairness were not going to work in arizona and they were particularly concerned that images of lgbtq people and lgbt couples were born to voters and so they stripped campaign. We called delaying the campaign. They essentially strip the campaign of all. Lgbtq references for a campaign. That was meant to try to protect the rights of same sex couples to get married correct. Yes so the the way they. They decided to strategize message. This was the the proposition at that. Time was written not only as an anti marriage equality anti lgbt But it was also an anti civil union and so what they decided to do was to focus on how it would impact unmarried heterosexual particularly senior citizens and they put forward image of a couple from south to green valley called allen maxine who would be affected by. This would be unable because they were in a civil union to be have hospital visitations because they were An unmarried heterosexual couple. Okay so can't hang on here for a second. Ron let turn back to you for a little bit of broader context about the battle over proposition. One oh seven in in arizona. I mean how would you describe what was that like. Were were activists like kent and lawmakers like cinema facing uphill battle in arizona. Yeah i think it's fair to say You know this has been one of the issues nationally where public attitudes have changed. You know in pretty dramatic fashion in a relatively short period of time in arizona. There's really not been a great track record of success for liberal or or left-leaning Ideals being embraced a at that point though it's worth noting that the state was already showing sort of In- interesting changing in the early part of the twentieth century. We see the state and acting like a passing a bipartisan Independent dieted a redistricting commission. It was one of the i do that. Around the same time. She is fighting Prop one oh seven she it. There's also an effort to raise the state minimum wage. So arizona was showing early signs of sort of open to these kinds of ideals. Not like you have a lot of success that you could point to of ways that you could just be boldly to the left and win statewide. Okay so what can't is describing though. Is what actually to me. Sounds like a very disciplined lawmaker. Who has a clear goal right. Wanting to defeat prop one seven and looking at the landscape before her across the state of arizona and saying tactically if we want to win. We may have to do things. That are distasteful to you know the very advocates who i who she was working along alongside. Is that what that sounds like. T ron and can't get your take on this in just a second. You're you're very observant magnum. Yes it does seem to be a part of a pattern that would obviously follow her in some ways that this is someone who is remarkably Disciplined and able to stay on message relentlessly down. Obviously her her pattern today as well in something that i think has marked her career throughout that there were a lot of opportunities where she might have gone in a different direction. Chased passion instead she sort of I two key her eyes on what you really want and news ruthless about trying to get to that point in even if it means sort of You know being willing to You know changed tactics in a way that might feel different than where perhaps art was initially. Well and at the risk of alienating the very people who are key parts of the same effort right. So can't what was the cost of as you describe it cinema opting to quote unquote de gay the campaign. I think the cost was really high and this is where your cinnamon i had. Profound disagreements She i wanna give her credit because her as saying her ruthlessly disciplined messaging in the end. One this one battle because in arizona. They did The voters by a small margin proposition. One of seven but the cost is this by d. Gang the campaign we the advocates in tucson An activist for all concerned that we were doing nothing to advance the larger issues of lgbtq equality. Because she she her point would be that that doesn't resonate but our point was at some point they're just going to come back with a different language and they're going to win and sure enough..

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"senator kyrsten sinema" Discussed on On Point with Tom Ashbrook | Podcasts

On Point with Tom Ashbrook | Podcasts

01:49 min | 2 d ago

"senator kyrsten sinema" Discussed on On Point with Tom Ashbrook | Podcasts

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"senator kyrsten sinema" Discussed on On Point with Tom Ashbrook | Podcasts

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08:59 min | 2 d ago

"senator kyrsten sinema" Discussed on On Point with Tom Ashbrook | Podcasts

"Saying why biden get this done well. Because biden only has a majority of effectively four votes in the house in tien senate with two members of the senate who vote more of my republicans back khoa arizonans who placed their hopes in cinema are mad. They call her quote missing in action when she didn't show up for vote on forming a commission to investigate the january six insurrection on congress former supporters supporters showed up outside her phoenix office in protest. Just as she would have once done. We can't paid door to door for her. That i won't do it again. I'm meghna chakrabarti and this is on point. And today we're going to look even more deeply into that long journey to understand the past the present and the current politics of arizona. Senator kyrsten cinema and joining me to do that. Is ron hansen. he's with us from phoenix. He congress and state politics for the arizona republic and easy central. Also co host of the podcast. The gaggle ron welcome to you. Thanks for having me so first of all let me tell you. The gaggle podcast is excellent. So anyone who's really interested in in listening to more detail about arizona politics. I'm gonna point you to ron's a to ron's podcast the gaggle it's very very well done ron But but first and foremost a want to play a moment from Cinemas later time in the arizona state house. This is about two thousand ten and back then. kirstin cinema was far more explicitly progressive because for example Arizona had just passed. What was then. The country's most restrictive anti immigrant law. This is two thousand ten and she spoke out about it here. She was at the net roots. Nation conference in las vegas On the radio show the uptake for people looking inside for outside into arizona. We look and see this immigration. Got past say how the heck did that happen. Yeah well the first thing. I think that folk should know is that this is not new. This is not a surprise. This growing anti immigrant sentiment has been A strategy on the part of the right for many years in arizona. And i guess my message to folks around the nation would be to pay attention to what's happening in your state look at the messaging. That's being used and be careful because if your land on the job then your state could turn into arizona. Pretty quickly ron hansen. How much of the senator kirsten cinema of twenty twenty one do you recognize in that state legislator from two thousand ten. That's a really good question. And it's a tough one to answer. there's a lot about her that i recognize. There's also a very critical elements of what is happening in washington that really sort of runs afoul of her earlier years in the legislature And that moment that you just isolated is sort of a part of when pivot with happening on issues that being handled at the state level but had clearly of federal nexus to them as well so it is a tough thing to reconcile. Especially you don't know the fuller story. Okay so let's look back a couple of years prior to two thousand ten then to start flushing out that fuller story. How would you describe what kind of state legislator kirstin cinema was in the state house. Yeah you know. If i could even go back a little bit earlier than that. She ran in two thousand two for the arizona and lost. She was aligned with the green party at the time and was a vocal member of the antiwar movement here in arizona During the bush era. And so when she gets to the legislature she really had sort of Created a body of support Among the very progressive community in arizona touches it was at that time and found herself in a legislature that has been Two day pretty well dominated by republicans. So she was in some ways Notable just by Her background walking into place and By the time she left. I think she was seen somebody who was Interested in crafty deals to make You know legislation. That could work. It's worth noting. Though they didn't arizona the legislature really never accepted much democratic input. And so you know. Democrats were always sort of shunted to the back. And and just sort of watched their their legislative goals crumble in a gop controlled House and senate so she was trying to work productively with people in the very very limited space where it was permitted okay. So let's talk more about that but just to to give listeners. Some some dates here to to frame. This conversation kirstin cinema. Oh was first elected to the arizona house of representatives in two thousand five. She served six years there and then was elected to the arizona. State senate and served from two thousand eleven. Two thousand twelve then moved to the united states. Congress i as a house member and now of course as a senator here so we've got quite a bit of time to look back on in terms of her political career but but regarding those early years in in the house at two thousand five to two thousand eleven period in arizona. Ron you just said that Democrats really weren't given much traction In republican controlled state house. So she and yet you said. She tried to to work with with arizona republicans. I mean tell me more about that where she more explicitly progressive explicitly democratic but still tried to find common ground. I think that's always been a through line for her as she. There is this search for common ground. She especially in her later. Years in the state house was Trying to work with Person by the name of russell pearce who your listeners may be familiar with. He's the one who was associated with a number of different immigration restrictions enacted at the state level Most most notably with senate bill ten seventy Which wasn't immigration enforcement law that went to the supreme court She would not in favor of ten seventy but she did try and find some common ground with peers and that was something that was in irritant to her progressive supporters. Even then there was sort of some depth made you even legitimize Working with someone as View is so hostile to some of the folks who are the bedrock of your democratic base. And you know this is something that i think was understood to be at least Somewhat political in its nature that she wanted to be able to Craft in image. That showed her as not just the person who was the antiwar activist back in the day. But someone who is a productive legislator willing to work with anybody from the start okay interesting so we're gonna come back to this in a second but i wonder if we can just spend a minute ron and have you help us understand. Sort of who. She is as a person now. I want to know that. I am always extremely cautious in trying to Measure anything about a person by you know how they present themselves through dress etc especially when it comes to women. I think there's too much attention paid to that but it should be noted that lots of people look at Kirstin cinema as sort of public presentation and want a little bit more about you know about the character of of the woman behind it. So can you tell us a little bit about that. Yeah and she really is an interesting person because there are some interesting paradoxes. That we've seen in washington the sort of I think amplify some of the questions that people have about her here in arizona and have throughout the year she was born in nineteen. Seventy six in tucson. Her parents divorced when she was a child and her mother moved. Hearner's that brings to the florida panhandle for few years. That twin in the mid nineteen eighties famously spent three years living out of An abandoned gas station She graduated from high school early and with honors. She won a scholarship to brigham..

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R. news flash two fifteen I'm Becky Lynn and here's what you need to know right now coronavirus cases are climbing dramatically in Arizona and hospitals are nearing capacity statewide not just with corona virus patients but other patients as well they were just under twenty four hundred new cases added this morning and as these cases continue to increase nurses from banners north medical Colorado center in Greeley Colorado have joined other fellow frontline health care workers here in Phoenix banner university Medical Center says three of the nurses will help treat hospitalized patients the nurses will be staying in the valley for up to two weeks mascot Bayesian that's the word from Phoenix mayor que que es go who's been making some waves on social media trying to get people to wear masks outside this comes after another record high number of cases reported today with no statewide mandate mayor guy echo asks people who were going out to bars and clubs for instance to help stop the spread by wearing the masks more evacuations due to the bush fire near Payson if you live in the sunflower area you should evacuate now the communities of Punkin center in Tonto basin also forced to clear out the bush fires burned more than sixty five thousand acres it's zero percent contained and it is the largest wildfire burning in the country right now you're never more than fifteen minutes away from today's top stories on Arizona's news station KTAR news Arizona's news station KTAR news ninety two three FM doesn't chat show afternoon well today two thousand three hundred and ninety two new cases of cove it in Arizona it's a troubling statistic we're kind of waiting for politicians to act joining us now is Arizona senator Kyrsten Sinema center how are you today I'm doing well guys how are you doing grades so the numbers are brutal are you satisfied with governor Ducey's handling of the spike in Arizona I'm not satisfied I'm sure this comes as no surprise to the listeners who are joining us this afternoon many will recall that back in in mid March I began talking about the concerns I had around taking action to slow and stop the spread of coronavirus in Arizona I also voiced concern about the stay at home order was being lifted from what the data showed us two weeks earlier than it should have been listed in Arizona and as we saw it Arizona State University university of Arizona has a modeling team and they said if you lift the stay at home order now here's what will happen and that's what's happening guys this spike in cases was not unexpected but what's concerning is that the severity of the spike is increasing daily with today being very sobering in terms of the number of new cases confirmed and it means that our hospital systems are on edge and could be overwhelmed within less than three weeks if you had your druthers you had a magic wand home a way you could change some of this as far as one thing that you think would help reduce this what would that be senator would be mass would be back to closing down again in certain areas actually three things that I would do the first is to dramatically increase testing Arizona still not trusting at the level that's recommended by the CDC as you recall we did have a five weekend Blix where increased testing occurred over five weekends but that blitz has ended and so we're not testing at the level that we need to that means that the community spread is probably much greater than what the significant numbers even shall step number two we need a coordinated well funded and organized statewide infection tracking program which basically means that when someone does get tested and it's positive for the virus that we find out we are the person got the virus and that we let everyone they contacted no so we can isolate folks before the virus spreads more and number three three we should all continue to follow CDC guidelines wear masks when you go outside your home stay six feet away from other individuals and social distancing and stay home when you can we're not seeing those three things happening at a session or consistent level across Arizona and that's why the spread is dramatically increasing Arizona senator cure since Anna joins us are you said you weren't satisfied with governor Ducey what do you want him to do what do you want to say why do you think he isn't acting I can't answer what the governor's thinking that and that's not my job what I can say is that the facts are very clear and the data is very stark and while the governor has indicated that he feels that we have enough hospital bed capacity for those who are seriously ill from the corona virus we're hearing consistently from doctors nurses medical professionals and hospitals themselves that they are nearing capacity just this morning Tucson Medical Center had only one icy icy you bad available that was just this morning and let's remember that well the case numbers we saw today of nearly twenty four hundred new cases is severe the number will continue to grow over the coming days and weeks because there's about a two week lag from exposure to win these cases present themselves in hospital rooms so we're going to continue to see this increase which means we're going to hit hospital capacity sometime in the near future another point I want to make in this is important guys mmhm I don't think it makes sense to design your policy based on whether or not there are enough hospital beds for people to die I think we should be designing a policy about how do we reduce the spread so fewer people are dying fewer people are in the hospitals and fewer people are contracting the virus what should be our focus and we can do that while also safely re opening our businesses and our economy the problem is senators you now is you know I keep saying this it you know people want to be treated like adults so you better act like an adult and a lot of times you know you get personal responsibility to people and they fail they fail at it they don't stay six feet apart they don't wear mascara when they should they don't wash their hands enough and that's also part of the problem is human beings are gonna have choice and sometimes they make poor choices now Arizona is a state where we take personal responsibility very seriously right it's who we are as a people I was born and raised in Arizona and that was one of the first one since my parents taught me and it's a lesson that his indoor throughout my life is that I am responsible for my behavior we can also create guidelines for all of us follow as a social contract with each other to keep each other our payments and our grandparents safe that's where I think businesses in our.

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