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Trump Was Setup (Ep 1084)

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Trump Was Setup (Ep 1084)

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CEO Get to this and a little while to what does he do he says take a vote hey a vote I doing jack squat anymore stack show I'm not kidding about messing with you then today the book the book the book is loaded the book the narrative that trump is so in bed with these Ukrainians and Russia's we had this Senate Intel Committee report comes out yesterday one of the most the polls again Donnie when they opened the books again Malaysian book it was a setup on trump the gym has a muscular volumes ation makes your muscles bigger look better look more tone this is a terrific product I love is the staple of my nutritional supplementation tate trade take this product take a little mental snapshot of what you look in a mirror comeback seven days later you are going to look a whole lot better I love foundation it's like having two extra guests thanks try this product take a paper to the gym right down on many push ups bench press squat whatever hyper extensions you do come back seven days you want to make it seem like oh my gosh what is it going to stop this trump guys so corrupt this is a rollout now what was rolled out yesterday again to add in one day it'll get lost some of the finer points they wanted their story will get lost so they roll it out piece by piece in a drip Drip I love that movie releases a report wow isn't that convenient to get to that first crazy video going on right let's get right to it today show brought to you by buddies at Ah let me I don't WanNA use that word. The Senate Intel Committee one of the most useless entities up on Capitol Hill Right now uh-huh stacked with anti trump republicans like Richard Burr with with people involved in the collusion hoax themselves like Democrat Mark Warner from Virginia. It's always a pleasure to be with you know that from the bank my thanks left heart becky when you open up the books can you get me a nanny yes intimately involved with this thing himself we had the leaker of that guy was the same wolf on the Senate Intel Committee is leaking and was charged with lying to federal aid agents this place is a fetid swamp inside the swamp the Senate and Coconut Inc Intel Committee so what does it do yesterday Joe conveniently again to add to the roll out perform better now the look better part I'm asking you take my word for it you don't believe me fine and do the seven day mirror test joe knows what it is before you Vince from a comprehensive enough descriptions joe unfortunately lives near the DC Mellon even in Maryland where he lives volume two comes out report of the Select Committee on Intelligence US Senate on Russian active measure campaigns interference in the twenty sixteen election volume part did thank you show ever why was this report out yesterday because it's a roll out it's the pile on it's every every day they got so they roll out this report yes or you could check out the cover here and remember they comply media's ready to rock and roll so volume two the Russian spoke with the Russians dead trump trump trump locally did now this report is there are parts of it that are downright birth the media's telling a story Joe what is it's not thus stories as trump it's overwhelming joe we gotta pizzas guide foreign deal that are so if you know what to look for thank you to the source that sent these portions of it over to me portions of it that are so hotshots part deal with Charlie apart one wasn't bad enough you need far too so here we go folks again what you're getting different on this show talks with an F. Vox left-wing media lunatics here we go Joe Gop let's Senate Intel Committee report states the obvious Russia favourite trump at twenty it's really it's unintentionally unintentionally hilarious how they they described this stuff in the sources they rely on so in this Senate Intel core remember the Shinzo colluding and they wanted a favorite trump. Here's number one here's an interesting takeaway from the report on Clint Watts. They relied on Clint Clint Watts so rollout continues here we go you can see more of this stuff they are losing the initiative they're losing the initiative by the way that I think that was what the question show is asking what story are the anti-trump Lincoln's and the Democrat hacks what are they trying to as clint watts a former FBI agent expert social media weaponization testify to the committee and it goes on about how Clint Watts thinks that Russians media outlets Hamilton Sixty eight Hamilton sixty eight runs this dashboard joe that supposedly can detect authentic social media the IRA that's this Russian Internet Research Agency targeted not only Hillary Clinton but also Republican candidates during the presidential primaries talks about Cruz and Rubio and Jeb Bush the people who are telling you that his methodology can pick out Russian bus from the peace readers this is the expert they got a report this is I'm telling you unintentionally hilarious tell you oh this Russian thing was worse than we could have possibly imagined they were the ones who got trump elected and you know who said so Jones former. It's interesting that Clint Watts who is one of the CO founders of the company evolved would Hamilton Sixty eight Clayton Watson himself doesn't even trust committee now this is what the two of them were and by the way hat tip to up Rosie memo's who picked up on some of this stuff too but someone said the stuff Black Hawk down thank you to personally semi that we're losing the initiative the Democrats losing the initiative so they have to continue to roll stuff out conjunction with anti-trump Republicans on the Steve All there we go joe it's online donkey Kong verdict is in its we colluded with the Russians to so you know Joe the Senate report the Russians wanted a favorite trump now we know here's volume now you can see up at Youtube on the video it says this is from the report the committee found Assan story the daily caller both links are in their day and what they address in their Hassan and subsequently Brian Flood is now I thank you to my wife this morning I shouldn't send her compliments but she says you know at the end I gotTa tell you she's the way you tie stuff together it's really I appreciate it hope you enjoy to yesterday's show in this is Clinton Watts I'm not convinced on this thing how often sixty eight dashboard co-founder clint watts told buzzfeed they're not all of Russia we don't even think they're all is the initiative we need to impeach trump now we need to insist he's been cutting deals with foreign governments Ukraine and Russia well we don't really have the mullahs reporting more so let's see ideally ensues this is supposed to be a serious report now joe it goes on what are the other portions of it on this whenever a story got out there that the media wants to discredit they would say all look rushing botts or pushing that Russian mobster supporting I'm GonNa say the Russians wanted to help trump feedback loop right into the narrative at the top the initiative trump colluded with foreign partners what are they used to back this up a single group of Americans was targeted by this Russian group the IRA information operas more than African Americans by far racing related issues where the preferred target of information am I missing save American Muslims so the Russian trophy augments the pieces by Brian Flood it was from twenty eighteen media's narrative of Russian botts pushing conservative issues called inherently inaccurate now Bryant flood story covers a warfare designed to divide the country in two thousand sixteen evidence of the IRA's overwhelm overwhelming operational emphasis on races evidence in their facebook advertising content sixty six so the sideline opponents with adversarial views towards the Kremlin so just to be clear Gel because that's what we're here for we're here to break through the clouds what media ten quitter content focused on heavily. NFL kneeling and racial undertones folks did any of you read the absurd me get to it okay so the media part let's just talk about the media's GonNa run so right on cue by the way Vox with a v actual indictment that came out against these Russian troll farms under because I did and remember what was an indictment point fifty fifty three or fifty to where why would you target black Americans who just by statistical data largely vote Democrat why would you target them for your most heavy engagement to act why is it seriously is this making south this is incredibly follow made yeah go ahead I know who it is the initiative is Columbia you fake obviously you know I'm GonNa Watch cleaning lots is heavenly evolve with this company put up there Fox article if you don't mind save American Muslims Vote Hillary took folks I don't I listen I'm sorry the help trump save American Muslims vote hillary you create the Ukraine thing falls apart because trump releases the translator conveniently the Senate Intel Committee let trump volume two wow what is volume two and our report the Russians definitely involve themselves in our politics in subversive adverse of ways fact yes point stipulate event related to race and targeting tired African American metropolitan areas they targeted they had a blackface page generated engagement they and Instagram Ingraham Russian bought you get what I'm saying where they go to get that information is this dashboard follow me Hamilton sixty well they are not our friends nothing they did was up standing on the moral high ground ethical none of it the FBI agent Clint Wasi clicked what through she he says he's so over don't what they're always they are not our friends it is documented extensively in spy gate my first book and my second book on the topic exonerated extensively racial discord and play whatever side of the aisle they could cause chaos on is just a lie this Senate report arm that's trying to elect Donald trump according to the Senate Intel report the story we have to double down the initiatives being lost trump I just wanted to help trump by targeting the black vote stirring racial divisiveness targeting the black community and by putting up facebook pages Joanna losing you right now Dan I got it so let me get this your report saying the Russian but continuing to lie to people and insisting that their goal was to elect trump when it's obvious goal was not to elect trump but how about a black Americans this is hysterical Ab- sorry not the Fox News piece this is the report in a report listen to this one. The committee found that Clint Watts a guy who is doesn't even trust his own platform this is hysterical I mean this how Larry is hot garbage it's toilet paper it is garbage this was released and the narrative is out there now you're a liberal listening to this show and you continue to get suckered by this listen to me the Russians were not our friends fact to cite Russian influence and US politics he's questioning is over that's the expert they used to show that trump was favored by the Russian side Guy Joe L. Answer that question for you that one's GonNa Clockwork Orange Open your eyes all right today show also brought to you by but he said Sleep and Stress Ladies and gentlemen I have a tough time sleep at night as you could sure they were not trying to help trump they were trying to carpet bomb our electoral process and so- internal discord talking about all right listen folks I don't go anywhere Salomon video in carpet bombing mutually assured destruction type Intel Babe they know we involve ourselves in foreign we do that's what Intelligence Does Ladies and gentlemen Oh America first and if we got Tan and election because it involves American interests and that's what we gotta do diplomacy Intel and the only as part of a rollout to pile on trump they were trying to help trump get elected by activating the black community and putting out facebook debate the black community to vote for trump he only got what was it eight percent of the black vote this any of this make sense to you gary actions and inherently ugly things sometimes you don't like it look away at eight for you and you know what the Russians do the same damn thing he plus free shipping if you don't experience your best night's sleep and just three nights send it back for a full refund no problem they're that confident this product go Max Health Dot com today us the setup is now unbelievably obvious also by the way what's going on right now why isn't Bill Taylor being called Right now testify you save American Muslims Vote Hillary what did I tell you joe a year and a half ago when we started talking about this the Russians are engaged yeah I was GONNA say which they've done yeah which they've succeeded at yes this is a scam ride coverage keep your number bring your own phone or get a new one feel good about unlimited talk and text and high speed data plans at fight for your freedom switch today heads of work family and the stresses of life in general it's no wonder over sixty million Americans feel sluggish unproductive or exhausted on a daily basis try Omega sleep and stress remedy it says in the actual document against some of these same troll farms and things like that show that one of the pages was quote facebook pages that are designed to foreigners their their assertion that the Russians wanted to help trump and didn't like hillary then why would you have a facebook page and said Save American Muslims Vote Hillary Hell by my naturally wired personality you have a problem to try ALMAC sleep and stress remedy we we use it now Paula don't you love it yeah she loves to is pretty good stuff trying to help trump the senate intel committees should be embarrassed by the way you won't see much about that story and I think it's because there's people resort to wait sleep stress remedy trust me the game changer you can benefit go to own Max health dot com enter Promo Code Bongino to get twenty percents off a one month supply plus free shipping. 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You'RE GONNA love it all right let's get rolling on this one so John Salomon John Hey John was on last night before me on Hannity and military that's fake story that is the bedrock of their impeachment chart now joe if Donald Trump food because it didn't fit the narrative he was trying to right that's a question for Congress dancer Gatien had already been reopened kind of screw the story up now you are you are not getting this military aid Ukrainians right now is a strategic free plan to roll out information to tell a story not the story and a story they're trying to tell a condition of getting military aid again that's a fake news story but that's their charge would that story be kind of thrown up in the air if an investor cheaters office open source intelligence again US government officials confirming they were aware of this made a request of another investigative agency in Ukraine for assistance and going through Sean Hannity show last night on Fox this is John Solomon indicating that this would have been the worst quid pro quo ever but opening up an investigation because there may have been ask the Gatien already open check this out I can confirm to you tonight that the US government had open source intelligence and was aware as early as February is trump is colluding with foreigners therefore needs to be impeached that's what the Senate report was about that's what the Ukraine quid pro quo you give us information on by according to the Democrats spurious impeachment allegations are that he was demanding an investigation be opened into one hundred as ski in fact it's before presidents let's he was even elected this is a significant shift in the factual timeline this is information that was omitted from the whistle blowers the three point four million dollars paid two hundred Biden's firm may have been part of the illicit funds that were moving through the company a month later in April they are these bank records that is a significant change in the time line was omitted from the whistleblowers complaint and the question is did he not know it or did he only fifteen that's important because under by on the board for two of those years twenty fourteen two thousand fifteen and specifically that notice suspicion said they were looking at the possibility implant let me tell you that the what we learned today the US government was aware through open source intelligence in February that Nabu an FBI like agency and Ukraine that fights corruption open investigation and they filed a fifteen page notice of suspicion alleging that there may be illicit funds that were running breeze from twenty ten all the way through may can this get any worse for the Democrats nothing they've told you is true in fact it was started by Joe Biden that it requested a reopening of the investigation into Barista its own results scheme and unusual transit there was no quid pro quo in the transcript to quid pro quo they're alleging is now entirely falling apart because you can't open an investigation on condition military on the condition of military that's already open it's already so what are the three takeaways from Solomon's piece last night again annihilate actions in the breeze Ma accounts in February of Twenty nineteen on March Twenty Eighth Twenty one thousand nine the General Prosecutor's office agreed to that Requested eating sleazeball Lion Adam Schiff and Nancy Pelosi and the entire Democrat Media Narrative February twenty nine plus you open an investigation if there was an investigation already open wouldn't that Kinda screw the story as well check out this little video audio this is the folks this is hard as you know liberals I get it you know the skulls the thickness problem the calcification around the frontal lobe gene the Ukrainians already reopened the investigation. Why is that date important Joe because trump was making a deal and a listen the Dave cricket going off liberal there's liberals the Second Takeaway Gel the investigation into the illicit funds being transferred from the natural gas company Baristas we're Joe Biden's kid was hired while Joe Biden's the point man and Ukraine discussing natural gas the illicit funds investigation about transfers the money was going on while Biden deep state pack that's all left out of the complaint little omission let it slide problem joe you say Fox News Trump's Darren them to take a vote why trump to send Pelosi Letter Fox News Melissa trump false part number two the quid pro quo about reopening investigation can't be true because the investigation was already open mm slash Bongino puts the actual paperwork finally Joe that's all conveniently left out of the whistle blower one there is no deal that was no quid pro quo and how could there have been a deal for an investigation to start that was already started a deal to open an investigation in one hundred Biden on a call in July of twenty nine thousand nine hundred how could he make a deal about a case that's already open nice move excellent White House give them nothing they take a vote that's their constant there nothing nothing until the House of Representatives Article One says the House of Representatives has the sole power impeach? I can't say this enough it is how much stuff I have to ask Paula we working on this since yesterday all right as I predicted yesterday trump was going to issue a massive AH folks you are being suckered Oh dude suckered huge so what's the takeaway from partout of two thousand nineteen that the Ukrainian government was planning to reopen the breeze manifestation this is long before the president ever imagined having a call with presidents Own Daring the whole impeachment quote this is an article for a few days ago but he did it again yesterday and he sends a letter yesterday impeach give them nothing nothing. Here's a tweet from montage. CNN by the way to what did I tell you not the House of Representative Take that to court and litigator that to death there is no way one member of the house speaker or not additional prerogative it'd be a legitimate Peterman inquiry however much we don't like not legitimate and there's a crime behind it but at least they took a vote the speaker of the House are not who ironically doesn't even have to be a member of the speaker that of of the House of Representatives excuse me speaker come from anywhere now it's tradition this is important he sends a letter over there from the White House we will not comply with this because this is not a legitimate peach inquiry take a vote good get it then dried Exxon interference I get that facts don't penetrate I understand they're like Kryptonite you but how hard is this to understand Cummings Angolan Adam Schiff we consider this interference that be obstruction of the impeachment inquiry so for Ladies and gentlemen otherwise there is no precedent for this both impeachments Johnson Clinton both took a vote there is no precedent for this Democrats are gonNA respond this is obstruction why why why are they doing that. If you're listening to this show you are seriously three or four days ahead of every new cycle I've got something is the next thing that's going to break there hunter Biden while he was on the board that's a conspiracy theory he's got the paperwork did you see it if you watch on Youtube Dot Com because ladies and gentlemen if they had an actual article of impeachment on an actual crime high crime misdemeanor tree now you like the Tian's in everything they think they have is falling apart there's no quid pro quo there's ace get to that a second so what did I tell you they're not gonNa take a vote having not taken a vote trump knows they've got wait till I get to this stuff hat tip two seven nine two seven nine or come through in the clutch again I was expecting a fastball. We got the DEUCE but nothing and probably don't have the votes right now trump was going to them and say I'm not giving you squat until you take a vote matter of fact I'm going to send it was even a vote taken on Knicks. Although he resigned no precedent the constitution is clear the House of Representatives has the sole power Oh take away part one the Senate Intel Committee report is at obvious piece of a rollout to reinforce the narrative that trump's cutting deals with foreign partners and the Russians preferred you may say well why not just submit to this and preclude them from going down the obstruction path because folks they're never gonNa get away with this this is the first time this has happened by the way the show is so stacked I'm not even kidding that I had a writer on two pages I'm not messing with that if I am no you didn't rob a bank but I want to impeach you robbing a bank but I know you didn't rob the bank I'll demand you submit to an interview about robbing the bank knowing Josh Oh isn't that great surprise isn't that Great Joke Shocker Joe is start oh on a call the whistle blower didn't even hear the knows nothing about but heard from someone heard from a friend who the Orioles you were letter pope bear poking say no no you take a vote or you're getting nothing diddley squat could what did I tell you what's going to happen when you hear his voice he is stunned bomb starting now we find out that the whistle blower who is supposed to be Joe come on quid pro quo in the transcript there was no investigation to be opened because it was already open now finally is Byron York is reporting in the Washington examiner what about in the deep stamp leaking sensitive information spying on the White House for everyone in the world to see the Patriots Bull we ask Dan this above reproach public servant who is trying to save the nation saved the nation by blowing the whistle Senate trial and I think disfiguring now that if he if they comply with this never ending witch hunt that they're just going to drag this out in the political would be more than if they're going to impeach just do it now let's get to a trial and let's humiliate Democrats are make them show their cards because they don't have any how do we haven't had used the dave love the Dave Griffin peace out trump live nothing on trump yeah all fit very despotic yes the whole thing is falling apart now agents here now it turns out the whistle blowers got ties to a Democrat candidate now folks remember did you know that com please subscribe to the email these articles are pretty comprehensive today definitely worth your time now let's get to the juicy in a bribery is the constitution says is required for an impeachment why not just issue the article on that you track me Joe Yeah Are you smoking crack what are you talking about you're you're making up motives that don't exist when motive in front of your face that impugns the high quality legal help for your established business don't risk it we're talking businesses have been around for a couple of years you're generating revenue you may have employees he's here's how your business that is gonNA paint a very ugly picture about one of the central figures in this case that may not be pretty don't go anywhere this thing works then I'll do it the right way well no time for that now now you're gonNA real business with real money and real people involved and you have to do something protect your business it's time you had a stuff you know what before we get the next I want to get through my last sponsor folks this stuff is going to be damning I'm GONNA put together to you hat tip to to see dedicated business attorney by your side it's important ladies and gentlemen I want to introduce you to this council Biz Council lets you have your own lives only matter when you're a Republican when you're a Democrat motives don't matter at all so that could be a possible motive right joe political damage being that you have some oh yeah they're they're real estate people but the Russians wanted trump to win actually there's no evidence and they had a motive to build the tower because what are you talking about the Niner for point me in the right direction here I'm GonNa put together to you a series of data points you'll say no and then when you say no I'll charge you with obstruction of the investigation into robbing a bank robber only because I want to put in jail you quite Toronto stages now you're starting to get serious you need to get serious especially about legal help in the back of your head you're probably thinking hey listen I know I shouldn't do this the proper way getting legal help but you know it's a small business national tie to a candidate and you're a Democrat yourself no no the motives no matter their patriots but when it's the trump side they were building a tower in Moscow speedwagon hypothesis right heard it from a friend who heard it from a friend we're supposed to believe you can't question this person jokes Patriots Day are Patriots what are they gonNA say Joe Yeah if trump doesn't comply we're going to move forward or destruction ourselves here we go subpoena coming this is from from don't you trust anybody down depending on your plan you also get free contract views every single month be confident in your contracts be sure that your business is protected I finally today show brought you by buddies at Biz Council you in the beginning stages of your business you had cut back some corners in the beginning stages unit if the whistle blowers complaint which makes some very serious allegations against trump because the Democrats had actually colluded with Russian sources to hammer trump you get it so they just wanted to switch the narrative to make it about trump because they knew the media such suckers phone call something was done in advance I think people were poked and prodded to make these whistleblower complaints but I want to ask you a question here about this let's now as I've explained to you over the past few shows why was it done in advance specifically involving Ukraine well for the same reason Russian collusion was rolled south from my listeners my listeners only get your first month the Biz Council for free when you go to Biz council dot com slash damn you're dedicated business business attorney this little doozy that came out yesterday Byron York October eight twenty nine hundred whistle blower had professional ties to a twenty twenty Democratic candidate any sixteen election Joe Biden kids involvement in Ukraine before he explained that with Solomon so they add problem they had to make that problem about trump I believe they waited for trump to make this this was a preplanned rollout meaning it was a hit it was a political hit none of this was some Patriot jumping forward because they were so concerned about trump's Ukrainian call it's nonsense this was done in advance let me put up this Wall Street Journal article I make this make more sense ladies and gentlemen we had an ambassador in Ukraine sources over the last couple of years doing this show one of them has assured me that our ambassador to Ukraine Marie Ivanovich was doing our review a contract with his council you get to contract reviews per month included with your free membership Biz council dot com slash Dan check them out we love biscuits eight a business attorney for all your business legal needs for a fraction of what it would normally cost comes through some of the same guys who started legalzoom now they're reimagining how you get quality potential motivations of Democrat you're ignoring that one nice story by by the Way Ladies Gentlemen this is all in the show today xlear all right folks this is an important segment and I want to be clear when I'm going here this was the setup on trump I've been saying that for the whole show I think I'm producing solid evidence her name was Marie Ivanovich remember the names okay trump ordered her here's the headline Wall Street Journal Trump Border Ukraine ambassador removed after complaints from Juliane Act that was trash Mao thing the president president trump overseas and may have been involved in let's just say on dropped and other tactical nukes on the battlefield here let's play the video let me just set you up I John Solomon is remember everything Biz council dot com slash Dan as be is e council dot com slash Dan to free contract views a significant value think about a lawyer charging you four hundred dollars as ambassador to Ukraine by trump it embarrassing thing by the way it happened recalled for that reason Ivanovich doesn't let in others Marie Ivanovich dismissed after trump ally said she was blocking Biden probe and bad mouthing the president people familiar with the matter Said Ladies and Gentlemen I've developed some good event this setup and why was it about Ukraine so you've out of it is she's not fired from the State Department she's recalled from her post fits from Biz Council you get unlimited consultations with an attorney dedicated to you means you have a question today tomorrow next month just pick up the phone again easily easily answers for some efforts to make sure justice wasn't done now those are the allegations that abused by credible people Ivanovich was trouble for the trump administration that makes sense yeah she's ambassador okay I wanNA walk you through how I for creating agreements from strack scratch get discounted flat free prices so you'll know what advanced what your new document is GonNa cost folks here's the deal they'll take it and they won't even ask any questions well the Democrats have a significant problem in Ukraine of already showed you the articles you know about the Democrats involvement with Ukraine this was a setup now keep it keep this question your head to all time revenge was this likey that who is the sharp sharp shady affairs the number two in the Ukrainian embassy well let's put up his picture Guy Bill Taylor William Taylor various US Embassy in Ukraine photo you can see it on Youtube if you listen it doesn't God and Follow Dan on twitter twenty four seven at Dbongino oh quos of any kind so somebody told the whistle blower it was is just crazy and the whistle blower writes in the report it's crazy the whistle blower joe also writes in the report because he's so it I've got a lot more this Taylor is interesting because a White House official told the patriotic whistleblower that this quid pro quo that wasn't it works Taylor as I said on the phone I think it's crazy as I said on the phone quid pro quo that's not happening and when he does it the language Taylor uses seems to be mirrored in the whistle blower complaint this Taylor which Gordon Sunlen properly replies bill I believe you are incorrect about President Trump's intentions the president has been clear no quid let's put up the September nine text from Bill Taylor to Gordon Sunlen again crazy you may say well then that's thin gruel okay fair enough oh I got more I never just leave you there somebody so for trash mouth and trump allegedly overseas and for again other allegations that she may have been involved in some obstruction of justice of over there Taylor's the one texting Gordon Sunland our ambassador to the EU about his concerns about what's going on with Ukraine about because Taylor and Taylor's concerns we now have been text messages Bill Taylor who's the number two Ivanovich who gets recalled embarrassingly I take it's crazy

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May 16, 2019

POLITICO Playbook Audio Briefing

06:01 min | 2 years ago

May 16, 2019

"Thursday morning, I'm Jake Sherman and welcome to your political playbook audio briefings stay tuned after the show for message from charter communications. And I'm Anna Palmer. We've got an interesting spotted to kick off the morning, Senator, Dianne Feinstein. The top democrat on the Senate Intel committee was walking around the capital with her iphone screen facing outward in full view, and Jihad's, reefs contact page was on the screen. It's reef is the name of Iran's Foreign Minister, Tom mentzer Feinstein's communications director in response to us asking, whether the Senator has been talking with Iran's foreign minister emailed. I can't comment on who the Senator does or doesn't speak with pharmacy. Put out a statement of two fifty seven yesterday saying war isn't necessary to solve a problem in both sides want a solution. I urge secretary Pompeo to reach out to foreign minister Javad Zarif who I know doesn't wanna see conflict with the United States. The Washington Post is reporting the Trump while frustrated. By advisors is not yet convinced. It is the right time to attack Iran. Trump responded yesterday afternoon to the reports on Twitter, writing the fake news, Washington Post, and even more fake news, New York Times, or writing stories that there is infighting with respect to my strong policy in the Middle East. There is no infighting whatsoever. Different opinions are expressed and I make a decisive and final decision. It is a very simple process, all sides, views and policies are covered. I'm sure that Iran will wanna talk soon. Trump is meeting with the president of Switzerland today in the White House. The two leaders will discuss quote Switzerland's role in facilitating diplomatic relations, and other international issues. It seems obvious with this means the Swiss have often served as a back channel between the US and Iran. Meanwhile, roll-call is reporting that the Trump administration as congress earlier this year to reimburse Afghanistan's Taliban for expenses during peace talks that didn't go, very far in congress. The appropriate. Committee, approves us nearly seven hundred billion dollars, spending Bill that bars, any funds from reimbursing, the Taliban, the big story today is the president, will unveil an immigration plan, the emphasizes immigrant skills over family ties the New York Times reporting on page A one Jared Kushner has spent months working on the plan, which is expected to be central to Trump's twenty twenty campaign. Let's take a look at what we're calling Jared's complete with unless you've been living in a cave for the last few years. You'd know that Democrats would summarily dismiss any immigration proposal that doesn't include language, to provide some sort of legal status for dreamers, Kushner's proposal, does not include that. So he's lost Democrats as New York Times points out. This doesn't bring down immigration into the US, which many Republicans have demanded this thing is dead or than a doornail, the White House keeps saying it's supposed to be a conversation starter. The only conversation this will start to the capitals one about how goofy it is to believe this. Dan was even released in the first place. Our friends, the Washington Post chronicled earlier this week, how Senate Republicans were scratching their head on Tuesday after Jared game to talk to them on Wednesday. Kushner, brief task GOP leaders, we spoke to a few of them, who had less than zero interest in Jared's. Immigration dever. Here's all you need to know. NBC's. Frank thwart. Tweeted, Senator Lindsey Graham on the difference between the White House, immigration plan and his newly unveiled immigration Bill. The White House is plan is not designed to become law. This is assigned to become law, our colleagues, Heather Caygill Burgess, Everett and supreme Rodriguez. The latest on how Trump's US NCA plan his top legislative priority is back from the dead, as both RS and DS seem more optimistic about it. Alabama governor Kay Ivey signed a built been nearly all abortions in Alabama. The New York Times has this headline Alabama aimed squarely at row, but the supreme court may prefer glancing blows. The president has issued two more pardons, including one for his business. Associate Conrad Black, who wrote a flattering book about the president last year. Both pardons fit the mold with this president there. Well-connected conservatives whose allies have been lobbying for clemency on their behalf for years last year. Black wrote an entire book praising Trump, Donald J Trump president like no other was the title. Twenty ten supreme court ordered a review of the charges against black with one notable exception. Obstructing Justice on the twenty twenty front Bill de Blasios officially jump into the twenty twenty campaign bringing the total number of democratic candidates to Twenty-three Steve Bullock responded to Democrats, or to him to run for the Senate in twenty twenty on the Rachel Maddow show. This was not an either or he said, I was never going to run for the Senate, by the way Bullock is Naby endorsement of Iowa's, attorney General, Tom Miller, Miller will announce his support tonight in Des Moines, and they'll travel the state together Natasha, correctly and Daniel, Strauss group that Pete Buddha. Judge signed Obama ad maker. Larry gristle. Llano and his firm, aka PD for his twenty twenty campaign. Here's what's on tap for Trump's Thursday. The president will participate in the rival of this was president at eleven forty five am afterward. They will meet in the Oval Office, Trump will deliver remarks on modernizing the US immigration system at two thirty pm in the rose garden. 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Explosive New Details About The Deep State Coverup (Ep 1093)

The Dan Bongino Show

56:16 min | 1 year ago

Explosive New Details About The Deep State Coverup (Ep 1093)

"Get ready to hear the truth about America on a show that's not immune to the facts with your host Dan ingenious focus do not go anywhere I promise you today's show is going to be a from the fan stay away from the fan you know why yes let me things will be hitting the fan panicking Brennan and others are starting to realize that they need one thing if there's one thing doesn't go their way they are in a world of trouble and the time to ensure your food supply is now not when an emergency strikes why when an emergency strikes you show up at the supermarket and there's no food left it's already in storage twenty-five years a piece of mind think about that includes breakfast lunches and dinners order a few today eight to ten of these receive guaranteed today delivery discreetly let's start here where are we going to go with this folks Brennan and others are starting to freak out there are starting to panic again I'm not going to get into what the consequences may be Leif make a plan the time to plan is now there's no need to be part of the chaos and the possibility of having to deal with FEMA flood lines when you get these long lines season gentlemen they need their buddy Christopher Steele to stay strong POW stay strong I will explain all of this today Ernest they have guaranteed two day delivery disasters don't wait they don't make appointments why should you act now save seventy dollars on a two week emergency food kit by yourself Paul in these supermarkets after an a disaster strikes start building a food emergency supply plan now my friends at my Patriot supply their experts and emergency I kid you not when I tell you this is one of the more important shows we've ever done this show means a lot to me I've had a lot of work into would have been up all morning working on it with Paula Jones mind you and your kids you know you have food if everything breaks bed go to this website prepare with Dan dot com that's preparewithlars dot com my Patriot supply food kits lasts up to twenty five years I heard this one now what are the consequences GonNa be hell of I know I'm not sure what the consequences are GonNa be but I'm telling you right now people are Zhou Still F- food you would show your healthy I glass insurance dental insurance you would sure everything in your life that matters why would you not ensure your food supply folks today where we're going with this ladies and gentlemen panic has broken out amongst the deep staters I get it you're like dead we hear this all the time no in dot com that's preparewithlars dot com don't be left out in the Cold God forbid there's an emergency and you run out of food PREPAREWITHGLENN DOT com today prepare with the dot com all right Joel just piecework thank you very much all right producer Joe how are you today welcome all to the Dan Bongino show you included how's everything going buddy man everything's going well but I want all of the listeners to stay go anywhere by the way thank you I said I would show you this beautiful flag Cherrywood box game in just a thank you to all my friends in Maryland produce absolutely all right let's get right to it thank you joe today's show brought to you by our buddies at my Patriot Supply Ladies and gentlemen you had short everything in your life that matters think about it right you sure that that's a role that's a story for another day because then people get upset oh my gosh nobody's going to jail I'm quitting well this isn't the quitter show so sorry but that's not the show where interesting do I gotta get more actually Patriots Five you WanNa send me some I'll take him take action now so you're ready for what's coming and save seventy dollars it's better to have a not need that need not have to prepare and get the facts out there and let people make their decision why are they panicking. Well let's do the setup I folks as I told You my new book exonerated one of the Central Pivot Point so the book that allows it to take on this spy novel narrative and thank you for making repeated two week bestseller in the New York Times va because Christopher Steele a former British intelligence officer who had worked with on the Russia desk put his name on it in the Book I explained one of the central portion of the book that matters the Pivot Point is that ladies and gentlemen the dossier that they used to spy on trump you know is the steel formation in there is clearly from Glenn Simpson portions of it as his wife Glenn Simpson that is Mary Jacoby stated on a facebook post back paid for by Hillary Clinton that part makes sense yeah he's a he's now Apache more or less yeah yeah yes yes armacost the verdict is in Armacost is correct yeah that is rice they need everybody if you keep that one piece of information in mind throughout this whole show Asia and slapped his name on it to make it seem like a former Intel officer and information about trump ooh not a reporter now a political opposition everybody's afraid that Christopher Steele not gonna stay strong now the distancing Komi clapper stroke page Baker Everyone Rosenstein if it comes out that this was Simpson's okay because people are afraid that have steel sales and says hey this wasn't my info they were just using me this was paid political research is really GonNa Bake your bagels listen to this cut listen to how it ends when we come back I'll explain to you why this is relevant again to why everybody needs St you that ladies and gentlemen it is not the steele dossier stay with me this is critical that it is these simpson steele dossier in other words the the show is GonNa blow your mind because nothing will make sense if you don't understand that everybody involved in the framing and the setup of Donald Trump and his team everyone needs everybody needs to stay strong if still word say come out Joe and say hey you know Russia Russia Russia tried to interfere in the election so fascinated Brennan and call me would be emailing each other nick got it giving you a little pause digest that let's start with some videos here's a little bit of the setup remember every panicking I believe that's why Gowdy who's never lied to US I may not agree with everything gowdy says the county's never spun in paid Glenn Simpson who was a reporter now working as an OPPO researcher they can't very well have the public believing Hillary Clinton paid for information to go to the she deleted later where she attributes the take down the trump to her husband not to Christopher Steele she's upset steals getting credit for the dossier she then deletes that on the Sean Hannity show on Fox and he says listen I've seen some stuff here and there's a critical piece of information that when you see it is may have had something to do with the dossier and by default steel in other words their conclusion that Russia did it may have been me which is what has Johnny Ratcliffe so exercised and they made no effort to corroborate the dossier until after it had been used in the application and a renewal yeah this whole case falls apart they beat Hillary Clinton bought the justice system and anybody could do the same thing I don information he knew was political not really from steele so let's set up with some video of Johnny and I we're going to some of that's really not mine oh that's really paid political research aw oh all that's going to create a problem tween Komi and Brennan about their conclusions they drew in the intelligence community that Russia Russia did it you think joe everybody needs Christopher Steele to say this was his work product folks ever dossier to be a work product of Christopher Steele Not Hillary Clinton's paid political hack it got it right it down keep that in your head everyone visor Corp and hijacked and bought the justice system so what did they do they went out and found Christopher steele a former British intel officer with some bona fide he's and no effort it's not that they failed they made no effort to last question so whoever's investigating this tell him to look for emails between Brennan and Komi in December blew up our election process I'm telling you that intelligence community assessment probably relied on components of a dossier that wheels gowdy clearly is seen something in those emails that indicates that there's a panic breaking out in these December emails that we may soon see don't follow me we're going to be a complicated but whether it's going to be the best buy store you ever okay they needed steals name on the dossier why because Hillary Clinton people started to figure out was fake and always probably at the FBI starting to figure out that the information he got from Brennan that he didn't believe was that's gonNa leave people like Johnny Brennan Johnny boombats in a real box guy supposed to be a CIA intelligence chief the super sleuth and he feel was probably from steel and he's panicking Oh yes sir put together for you don't you worry at all correct information corroborating steel simpson dossier comas realize the information he's getting Brennan from Brennan now what's happening or in a shed a new light on everything that's going on this is where Brennan his asked specifically by Chuck Todd about the the FBI is role in the dossier and watch Brennan throw the FBI. This snake sleazeball onto the bus knowing Brennan started this whole thing now notice how Brennan knowing he's Caught Watch this all older older interview with Chuck Todd of Meet the press you play this before but now remember background before I get to this next cut you know what let me play the next cut it'll make more sense deep in steals information Lama I would think so now as chuck Ross points out an excellent piece of the daily we're be available in the show notes today Bongino calm a little bit of panic breaking out chuck Ross daily caller report Brennan and clapper to be interviewed as part of an investigation and is from steel and Simpson it's the same info it's not corroborated it's the same damn thing. FBI did not pull the threads investigative threads on American persons who might have been involved with Russia and working on their behalf either wittingly or unwittingly individuals who may have had some affiliation with the trump campaign and so the intelligence that we collected was pulsed against that and I thought it would would have been derelict if the tire to interview CIA analysts who gathering intelligence about Russian meddling in the two thousand sixteen election according to NBC who gathered intelligence some what a piece of human sleaze this guy is remember what I'm telling the FBI is we'll continue to live for them check this out I can tell you it is even worse than what you described it is what you described in addition to the withholding of his skull Pretoria Information Russia probes origins pencil nervous about that why asked about when he found out about the dossier Brennan conveniently leaves out the summer of two thousand sixteen when this case started again why I implies they've even hired attorneys anticipation that they will be interviewed grab go back to the start folks against the FBI information was a different data set of intelligence then the dossier because it's chuck Ross indicates in the peace apparently they're looking interviewing some analysts at the CIA as well quote Durham also expressed that this came out and it was in late summer of two thousand sixteen when there were some individuals of from the various us news outlets who from Christopher Steele now will we get to the setup from what the the the Khuda grass going to the distancing from steel started a long time ago why into details about how was acquired but the FBI has very close relationship with its British counterparts and so the the FBI had visibility into a number of things that were going on involving learn of the so-called steele dossier and what Christopher Steele was doing well it was a very well kept secret among press circles for several months before that's what would they be emailed each other about remember that's conveniently around the time that the assessment reports from the intelligence community came out Joe and says that's because I can send some of you may be confused why there's a rift in December and these emails between Brennan and Komi Remember Komi thinks the CIA is feeding why because he says he hasn't seen the DA until December which will see in this cut when did you assessments that was done that was presented to then president Obama and then president-elect trump really toe again just to be clear prosecuter under Justice Parma now is going to interview Brennan who's been allowed to lie in the media the entire time and not only is he going to interview Brennan He's when he briefs the gang of eight includes information to Harry Reid and others that is only in human sleaze John Brennan he's now throwing the FBI under the bus saying I didn't see that until December well folks that's not possible because in August as we stated before Brennan briefs The gang of Eight up on Capitol Hill away so a video a tray gouty why this is important this gowdy on Hannity a little while ago versus for months ago but this is trade you better because if it comes out that it Simpson's and just political research that means Hillary Clinton effectively bought a FIS award back to August Brennan had that information already from steel remember the parallel constructions the information till December he said quote I heard snippets of it he throws the media under the bus well the press said some of it he says we had some Intel persecuted they would possibly go to jail they need steel to continue to insist this information team remember the takeaway from this show that we're going to we're going to get to steal and Brennan are being interviewed now interview CIA analysts too and it's GonNa come out that this whole thing was bedrock steals information the whole thing right entire hoax and still I'll get to this in a minute talking way steals get little chatty you asked me about my familiarity with and I had heard snippets about it I did not know what was in there I did not see it until later in that year at this out we the CIA tells community had collected a fair amount information in the summer of two thousand sixteen about what the Russians were doing a multiple fronts and we want to make sure that the FBI by law enforcement officials they can't lie anymore without being charged because the precedent for lying to the FBI I Mike Flynn and others use other cases later he's a man I heard this from Harry Reid and John Brennan this must be true this information about Carter page and others it's the same info on the summer sixteen it's not steals info because he just said he didn't see until December what else did he have thing had full access the popadopoulos thing come through the CIA via the five is thing that that would have been a piece of information it gets to the FBI you know how that works. I'm not going to get should he can't tell Komi that because they know it Simpson's information he can't tell me I want you to open investigation based on a former reporter now I'm telling you that the intelligence community assessment right around the time gowdy says Brennan encomium emailing each other that indicates Russia from him and Brennan Needs Steel to continue to insist that he didn't speak to him until December why because he just sat on the record he didn't have any of the Doc- and Paddock is run amok or today's show also brought to you by buddies brickhouse nutrition you know brickhouse nutrition is my favorite nutrition company out there ladies and Gentlemen I have been yeah I through the gang of eight in August and Harry Reid who sends a letter to the FBI and when call me then gets the Steele Dossier Krishan dot com slash Dan brickhouse nutrition dot com slash Dan Pickup Foundation today you will not regret it okay so quickly just resetting dot com slash Dan pick up a bottle of foundation it's like having two extra gas tanks in the gym and just do me a favor don't take my word for it I mean take the mirror test try found and joe audience hat on yet Brennan has insisted from day one that the intelligence he quote pulsed you remember the parallel construction scheme John Brennan only has deals information the dossier so unless Brennan is some Michael J. Fox Mardi MC fly back to the future guy who can travel from December Brennan has lied about this repeatedly and now he's being interviewed and I'm GonNa get to Brennan has insisted from the start he didn't know anything about steals dossier until December I'm telling you Brennan was getting information from steel knowing it was Simpson's December but I I was unaware of the providence of it as well as what was in it and it did not play any role whatsoever in the intelligence community media interviews has already distanced himself from this they then fed this Intel from steel and Simpson to the FBI pretending it was from a different source so we uh it helps me look better I really my energy level they were one of my first sponsors and I really enjoy their product if you don't believe me go to Brickhousechad that's the setup the setup to what I told you when we started the show everybody needs steel to stick can take a quick break you're going to get to in a second they'll go anywhere do these Washington examiner pieces why everything's changing now avid vocal supporter of what I consider to be their best product foundation I love it they have field degrees which is excellent I really really love foundation what does foundation knowing they had used steel as Joe said a Patsy of run for the documents to make it seem like it had come from an intelligence professional when it came from political activists Brennan in information this is all in light and what's new why are we covering this today because now Brennan's in a panic because the investigator Durham looking into this script that he didn't talk to the CIA before December well why is that because Brennan's already on the record saying DOJ investigators looking into this no what I know they know Brennan's line they know Brennan and his team had contact going to be like is that good take some notes how many bench press squat whatever burpee you do whatever it may be come back seven days later do it again boom oh they need steel to stay strong man what is brandon do their brandon as I'll show you in the next clip when he's your performance going to go through the roof this product Zach Good I love it Joe loves it Paula loves it little Joe loves these not so little anymore by the way Joe of listener was nice enough to send I should give it about five seven days to load new system that's the way creating works I'd say supercharged creating ATP Bland look at yourself in the mirror seven days later well I just showed you the clip steel comes out and says I was talking to them way before that Oh Houston we opener pieces here Brennan being interviewed is going to be a big problem because I'm telling you Durham bar in the the script Joe that he was the guy who generated this yes yes everyone everybody also needs steel to stick to the instill gives it to the FBI. Personally it looks like it's corroborated when it is in Bredon wants to distance himself from that now to the Komi of the gowdy emails between a couple of nights dog tags for you and Little Joe so I gotta get you that but little joe graduated from Tariq or not so little anymore but check out foundation it is at good go to break it's really bad because if he answers honestly he's going to have to tell them that he lied and that he had this information which steel or is information before December they know it because the information steal had appeared in August in a briefing Brennan gave to the Senate the problem daddy o now just described to you why this Brennan being interviewed by Dorm before I get to the Washington probably starting to question Brennan and say hey this dossier is this real did you guys have this before you said you had it you get it and that's why Goudy have a constitutional republic you are under no obligation to do that but let me get this straight predators said repeatedly including the other day in a soundbite he did on NBC that he has nothing get his lawyer so I have their own Brennan pleads the fifth is bad that I have Brennan answers honestly in eighteen ATP blend is the single best nutrition supplement you will ever take hands down I love it what is done for me it's done everything it's helped me perform better I needed everything by the books I'm sorry it was at a conference nothing to hide I plead the fifth but I got nothing to hide plead the fifth nothing hi please snippets of things you heard but it's other yeah I didn't see that they'll December everybody needs steel to stick to the Oh me and brandon makes sense this is likely a confrontation where right is this intelligence community assessments coming out about the Russians involvement in the election combs grip folks everybody if steel doesn't stick to the script and says I talked to the CIA way before deal and was pretending it was from a different source in order to investigate any presidential candidate using the FBI now you see why he throws the FBI into the FBI lied to Congress Oh really joe got some good sources about what maybe the FBI insisting the timber and by the way the Info and that dossier wasn't really mine oh analysts around Johnny B who may know about steals interaction with Jani therefore why our CIA analyst lawyering up Joe according to Chuck Ross's piece now covers this in intimate detail let's go to the Washington examiner piece I just this headline investigate what the information you lied to them about that information the quote summer of sixteen when you six to you call me email each other parliamentary jumper ranking daily caller piece for me and went out of order a little bit but Brennan and combing your really need to see these emails there's probably a paddock in the FBI hey we thought we were getting corroborating information from the F. B. I. When in reality it was just the same information awesome I clip with Chuck Todd you can rewind this show in that first. Clint be clearly says well listen the F. B. I. would quote be derelict if they didn't investigate it has two choices now Brennan can plead the fifth which are going to look bad you don't have to talk to law enforcement we thank God a big time clockwork orange like I open remember that movie yeah this one is going to be a doozy what do I got and the hill the gang of aid it's simple to understand it's not cop bread is really stupid this is not complicated they know that so Brennan now for the Fish Hook I got more spread this show everywhere and working on this for a long now when oppo researchers paid by Hillary right nobody's going to go on the record with that even these hacks so he feeds an information stream to the really kind of like this right doesn't like this it's kind of like this but you think so go together he can plead the fifth faces. Hey it's my face I can't do anything with it sorry I like to get a little aggravated you WanNa Watch Standard Cable TV you're free to do it but this isn't the Damn Clinton paid for info panic Johnny B now is going to be interviewed according to Chuck Ross the daily caller and other all right why is that happening they didn't do anything right I one nervous corpus time by the way this is laid out in my book I hate to keep promoting it to you folks I worked hard on it though my book exonerated out awesome deal needs to stick to the script I did not talk to the CIA until December that's the script and that was my info that wasn't Hillary hire time that it was steals information that might have something to do with it I get emails sometimes we love your faces I can other emails we hate you ars everything you set aside the right over my head as as the listeners why did yeah well now we show this is from Dan Shea this is from June fifth twenty nine thousand nine it's an older piece joe degenerated said they Christopher Steele GonNa talk to John Dorm improved the scripture there bungee things different so steals going to talk to the FBI apparently had some information remember miss you call them the dossier the Corpus now let's go to the second piece by The Washington examiner which is just peachy isn't it the Corpus I got that one one day just buy stuff I guess remember Brennan it's the Corpus of intelligence it was it was a and follow Dan on twitter twenty four seven at Dbongino I'm going to show you who else is nervous about Christopher Steele and was nervous about steel NBA. We need a fulltime out. We're going to have to re evaluate everything folks everybody's worried about steel steel I can't repeat this enough when I was in director in the Secret Service Academy they used to tell us over and over with the new agents students tell them what you're going to tell them tell them and then tell them what you told them assistant didn't even talk to the Seattle December and another piece of information that steel was the originator of this now who would know about both of those things steel who all the sudden talk and durum investigating this case bar and Horowitz and others and all of a sudden hold on because everybody needs steel to stick to the script and now that Brennan's being interviewed he can't lie about it anymore either she oh time out on the field folks we need to delay this report why would they do that. This whole case is center on the fact that Steele didn't talk to the CIA the CIA had independent go back to the Washington examiner piece from and let's see what this may have been connected to you live how we we've this stuff together you're not gonna get this anywhere else does that mean so a new timeline emerge why would a new timeline emerged by the report remember the Inspector General Was Expecting Ladies and gentlemen follow me during President Trump's visit to the United Kingdom investigators found steals information credible enough to warrant extending their investigation they said they were going to interview Christopher Steele all of a sudden the timeline got thrown all out the window and everybody said wait after for accounting finance hr they don't talk to each other it's a big hodgepodge mess it's a disaster especially for small businesses but you know what big businesses Spector General Michael Horowitz was looking into this whole fiasco everything we're talking about steal spy gate the advise abuses look into all of that the Inspector General Information Joe they fed to the FBI they didn't start this on Hillary Clinton's paid for fusion GPS info they had separate in viewed as well so who else is panicking ladies and gentlemen well folks Brennan wasn't the only and so was the State Department relying on information from Christopher Steele remember steel interviewed with the State Department remember we have talk show they had everything tied up briant around one relying on information from Christopher Steele the FBI was also relying on information from Christopher Steele yes to explain to you why people are panicking they're panicking because of the steel interview and Brennan now knows he's going to be in fifth or get charged with lying to unpalatable options but they're not the only ones panicking all right folks today's show also brought to you by one of we got some splaine in the do now when I come back in the other side is quick break here quote the delay in Horowitz's work the I G was reportedly due to his team's two day meeting with still in London. Doj what I call the flood zone strategy like a football game where you flood the zone receivers and hope one of them catches the ball when you throw it down summer twenty one thousand nine hundred getting ready to drop this I g bomb and all of a sudden they talked to stay on their life. Te'o not a twenty-second either US using steel I wanna hat tip the conservative tree house guys here who did a excellent piece on this you can see the headline here view here but the tree house guys have a fascinating analysis here of someone else who needs Christopher Steele to stay strong favorite new sponsors net suite by Oracle we would be lost without him here at Bongino Inc my wife and I use net sweet and what's the benefit of nets sweet folks listen you have a lot of these business systems real steel who had his face on a dossier that was not his flooded his information everywhere hoping it made its way back to the FBI easy for you net sweet dot com slash Bongino okay so this portion one the setup it took a little bit about thirty minutes but I needed the setup bottom line matters introducing net suite by Oracle the business management software the handles every aspect of your growing business in an easy to use cloud platform giving you the visibility and control worth your time they did some great work we've had some back and forth I don't agree with everything they put up over there they don't agree with mine either but this that's fine there's there's room for a lot of points role was expected to release his report over the summer but Joe in the middle of the summer when nobody was paying attention right around the time Especi Bungee and you can see it right there why does this matter remember go back to the start everybody needs I am hoping that that information if it came from multiple places even though it was all from him would appear more credible than one but there was someone else small businesses alive can both benefit from using net suite by Oracle. Listen if you don't know your numbers you don't know your business the problem growing businesses have and that we had it keeps there was notes from the State Department interview in October where steals their steelhead communications with the State Department he had information going to the I'm from knowing their numbers is this hodgepodge business just doesn't communicate efficiently one for accounting sales inventory others it's a big mess takes too much time too many resources and hurt your bottom line you hang in there Chris and you continue to insist that's your dossier buddy I'm telling you read my book by the way you will come to the I'm from their piece of the Conservatory House piece someone else I'm going to set this up for the Senate Intel Committee you think no no the Senate Intel Committee that hates trump fake Republican Richard Burr and Legitimate Democrat which means you know anti-trump by nature because I've been debunked nothing to see there either don't you work why does this March seventeenth date matter so on March seventeenth defies the Dan Jones later went to work for fusion. GPS nothing to see their folks work now we're working in conjunction with fusion. GPS precision matters to advance the dossier after Tom Slash Bongino that's net sweet. Su It dot com slash bungee download your free guide seven key strategies to grow your profits net sweet dot com joe what is it rely on almost exclusively as Andy McCabe former deputy director of the FBI and acting director has already said on the record that thus the dossier as fake intellectual Chuck Todd Would Call Dope this is a good show on March seventeen twenty seventeen the Senate intelligence committee we know can't stand donald trump you know these these losers over there Mark Warner may have had something to do with the Senate Intel Committee where all the leaks were coming from let me set this up for a user some screen shots from there they were kind enough to put together simplest slash Bungee oh there's a reason thousands of the best known brands including US and fastest growing companies use net suite to manage your business now it's available to you check it out you're GonNa love it make everything Democrat senator from Virginia on the Senate Intel Committee Mark Warner and Adam Waldman who is a lawyer who is in concern conservative treehouse guys hat tip to them it's in their piece wow look at this text exchange between anti-trump Hack visor application aspiring trump is based on steals information that the CIA says it didn't see till December and it's claims his his can't claim it's Hillary oughta stick to the script this is yours not Simpson's right we're gonNA move away from the CIA angle for minute you now know why Brennan Panic so firm conclusion read exonerated that this was not steals dossier the evidence in there is damning here's screen shot number one warner just tried to call now going into skiff what skiff sensitive compartmentalize information facility not s Mark Warner who was actually Democrat. He's a Democrat from Virginia they hate trump they've always hated trump and Dianne Feinstein who had a staffer named Dan Jones they hated trump or instantly from your desktop or even your phone we have it right here that's why net suites the world's number one cloud business system and right now nets offering valuable insights with a free guide seven application to spy on trump first and the second one is delivered to the Senate Intel Committee it's classified in that Pfizer application. 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'Auntie Maxine' Waters Gets Ready To Take On The Banks As House Panel Chair

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'Auntie Maxine' Waters Gets Ready To Take On The Banks As House Panel Chair

"Support for this podcast and the following message. Come from internet essentials from Comcast. Connecting more than six million low income people to low cost high speed internet at home. So students are ready for homework class graduation and more. Now, they're ready for anything democratic congresswoman, Maxine Waters of California is one of President Trump's fiercest critics. She has repeatedly called for his impeachment and now with Democrats taking control of the house waters is expected to head the powerful financial services committee. This position is going to enable waters to slow down Trump's banking agenda and also delve more deeply into his company's finances. NPR's Jim zarroli reports Maxine Waters is a political firebrand unafraid to talk back to anyone here. She was on the house floor during a debate about discrimination and auto lending and don't talk to me about the fact that we don't understand what happens on the. No, no, I will not get and the eight year old lawmaker became an. Internet Meam, thanks to exchanges like this one. With Treasury Secretary. Steve Mnuchin the department of treasury has cooperated extensively with the Senate Intel committee with the house same time with the Senate Judiciary time waters confrontational style has earned her the loathing of President Trump who disparaged her as having a low I q a remark widely condemned as racist. She was one of a handful of Trump critics who were mailed pipebombs last month that has only made her double down on her attacks. She drew criticism when she told supporters not to be afraid to harass Trump administration officials if they see them in public waters work on the financial services committee has attracted less attention, but it has earned her admirers such as Mike cow Hoon of the center for responsible lending. She is a tough and savvy defender of consumer protection and whole. Towards the feed of the banks and the Trump administration regulators to the fire waters has positioned herself on the committee as the voice of the little people quizzing bankers about the impact of their policies on small businesses and homeowners she earned the nickname, anti Maxine. Now, she's in line to head the committee in a recent speech waters, talked about the huge wave of foreclosures in the great recession and the massive consumer fraud at banks such as Wells Fargo, and she warned the banks. She wasn't about to go easy on them. What am I gonna do to you? What I'm gonna do to you. What you did to us in fact with congress divided. There's a limit to what waters can accomplish legislatively, but she can't hold hearings. Ian, Katz of capital alpha partners says she can haul regulators in bankers before the committee and shine a light on issues. She cares about she can't pass laws. She can make a Bank executive. And some of the regulators appointed by Trump, very uncomfortable and create some awkward moments for them. Cats points out that Trump has embarked on a major effort to deregulate banking. He says waters can make that more difficult. She can't necessarily change with they're going to do change the regulations, but she could slow things down. She can also turn up the heat on Trump waters has already been a fierce critic of Deutsche Bank, which has been one of the few big banks willing to lend money to Trump's businesses. She was asked about the Bank on Bloomberg TV last week. And we know that Dutch Bank is a dentist by as one of the biggest money laundering banks, you know, in in the world, perhaps. And that they're the only ones who were you know, a amenable to providing loans to this president. So we wanna know somethings about that waters is quick to say the committee will look at other issues too. But her new role will give her the resources to look into. How Trump's businesses are financed. And she's made clear she's more than. Willing to do that. Jim zarroli, NPR news, New York.

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"What's it like trying to thrive as a black person in Hollywood? Liberal. There is a show where I got there and they pointed at the packages and I was like I'm actually interacting filmmaker, Justin, simeon creator of the show and filmed dear, white people and host of don't ask me. Tune in four show where I get real with game changing creators of color disarray. Bound bound on your podcast at me dead already created from the. Community Patrick E. and poke I wanted to do a movie about black. Like man I was like, well, what is it a? Female creators associated J, what I do hear some those. That does make sense like masculine of center. Yeah. That is what I am basically everybody bud straight white men, but also sometimes then as well. Brought to you by star Burns Audio Donut me with Justin, Selena is available now wherever you listen to podcasts ruin but don't add me unless you got something to say. Sinned. Hello, and welcome to the daily beans for Wednesday August nineteenth twenty twenty today volume five of the Senate Intelligence Committee Russia Investigation Counterintelligence report is out Roger Stone has dropped his appeal the postmaster general suspense changes until after the election but I don't believe him you shouldn't either but he has agreed to testify before the Senate this Friday a private security company is detaining migrant children and keeping them in hotels Mike Bloomberg pledges sixty million dollars to help house. Democrats US states seek two point two, trillion dollars about oxycontin maker, Purdue Pharma and Esperer says twenty two, billion dollar cut to military healthcare is in order I'm your host G. and with me today's Jordan Coburn. Hello Oh. Besides the heat and humidity. How are you? I'm doing very well considering those things in the absence of this good. Yes. Good. Oh me too. Today was a big day for us volume five came out. And That's the counterintelligence report or if you. Will Cover the highlights but if you want to know what the report says, go listen to the entire entire muller she wrote podcast from beginning to end you'll get it off should only take you about two and a half years. How long was I going? That's a thousand pages. But. I'm still poring through it but I haven't really seen anything that. We didn't cover Marco. Rubio of course, is trying to spin it and we'll. We'll talk a little bit about that, and then we have some reactions to the Democratic National Convention from last night, and of course, all the headlines from under the radar and our listeners submitted good news stories, and this week we have our happy hour meet-and-greet but it's been moved from Friday. Four Pacific to Saturday morning at eleven am Pacific Time That's eleven am Pacific time for patrons and then we open it up to the public at noon and the theme is Brunch and we will see you there. I'm excited about it And then we are going to go on vacation for a week, but you will still get content and news and maybe news, but mostly content, and there'll be shows for you to listen to. which were working on putting this together. But gave birth. Yeah. Going on. But we do have a lot of news to get to. So let's dot notes. Pot notes. All right. So lead story big big big big story volume five counterintelligence version Arab. Portion. Of. The. Senate Intel Committee. Report on their investigation into trump Russia. And some of the highlights here first of all. Let's talk about Paul Manafort. the report found that Paul? Manafort began working on influence operations for Oleg Dera Pasta and other pro Russian Ukrainian oligarchs in two thousand and four. Check. manafort hired and worked closely with Russian national constant, Kalinic whom the committee definitively calls a Russian intelligence officer that served as a liaison between him and oleg their. Pasta. And in the Miller report the they say they hint at it but they never said call him directly a Russian. Intelligence officer they do here. On numerous occasions, manafort sought to pass sensitive internal polling data and campaign strategy to Kalinic the committee was unable to determine why or what Kalinic did with that information in part due to the pair's use encrypted messaging. APPs however, we know and we reported that it was downloaded. You know. From person to person on Oleg Deripaska yacht a Nussey RIPKA got a video of it and Navarro name the opposition to. To Putin at the time had released that video. And he went to jail paid for it. Yeah, he sure did. The committee did however obtain some information suggesting may have been connected to Russia's hacking and leaking of democratic emails, and that's that whole section there detailing those findings is like really redacted and very interesting and I i. WanNa know why but the bottom line here according to axios taking a whole manafort's high level access and willingness to share information with individuals closely affiliated with Russian intelligence services. Particularly, Kalinic and Associates Derek Pasta represented a grave counter intelligence threat. The committee wrote. So one conclusion from this report is that trump's campaign chair was eight grave counter intelligence threat cool check. A next Roger Stone. The committee found that trump and senior campaign officials attempted to obtain advanced information about wikileaks released damaging emails from Roger Stone they believed had inside information. It also assessed that trump spoke with stone about wikileaks on multiple occasions despite the fact that the president said he did not recall doing. So in written answers to Special Counsel Muller, we've talked about that a zillion times that's obstruction of justice. In July twenty sixteen stone drafted tweets for trump at his request that attacked Clinton for her adversarial posture towards Russia and mentioned a new peace deal with Putin. And the committee also found significant evidence to suggest it wikileaks was knowingly collaborating with Russian. Government officials, wikileaks founder. Julian, assange has long denied that the source of the hacked e mails was Russia member. He was like Guja for trump was like four hundred pound guy in the basement. That's that whole. So, there's there's that proof. Projecting much. Okay. Yeah. And then the two thousand sixteen trump tower meeting the committee found junior expected to receive derogatory information. It would benefit the campaign from a person he knew was connected to the Russian government but that no information was ultimately transmitted to participants at the meeting Veselnitskaya and not mention had far more extensive and concerning ties to the Russian government than previously known including Russian intelligence. So when you know back in the day when we were like, they're totally connected. Russian intelligence and we were guessing. Right when they retire like back in the Russian adoption talk days and stuff. Yeah we're like Oh Veselnitskaya isn't have connections to the to the the Kremlin. Yes. Yes. She does Rob Goldstone. Yeah. Even said like she was the crown prosecutor whatever the fuck which is not the correct term but direct ties to the Kremlin and and now we've got the proof Y- anybody that's described and self-described. Wash say self described but definitely was being described consistently in the media's like a Kremlin attorney obviously is going to have ties to intelligence because that's how Russia operates. Everybody wants your what's your up in that ring? You're connected to all of the agencies because it's like pseudo authoritarian set up there where everyone that has any sort of powers all connected in on the same page and moving you know the same. Way Yet. Yeah and It was obvious to us, and now here we got here it is check. So check that up next up Michael Cohen Bunch. Of Shit, we already knew the report found that You know that second trump tower Moscow deal that Cohen reached out to the Kremlin directly to the Russian government assistance about building a trump tower in Moscow. Cohen kept trump updated on the progress while these negotiations were going on trump made positive public comments about Putin connected with his presidential campaign. And Cohen made. Contact January twenty sixteen with Dmitry Peskov reported to trump that he had done. So attempts to advance this deal stopped in the summer twenty sixteen. That's the first trump tower. So it meanwhile trump was lying to the public about it. So we we were like Yup that happened in. The Senate agrees with us then. Trump transition Russia took advantage of members of the trump transition teams relative inexperience in government opposition to Obama administration policies and trump's desire to deepen ties with Russia to pursue unofficial channels through which Russia could conduct diplomacy. the transition team repeatedly took action. That had the potential and sometimes the effect of interfering with Obama Administration diplomatic efforts including former National Security Adviser Michael Flynn's conversation with the former Russia and Russian ambassador. Oh. Okay. So so flynn light okay. Got It and there was material here it is okay. Cool. Right and they say that they were they were you know exploiting their ignorance basically just as people that had like. No experience in government even if they did have experienced in government, those people wouldn't give shits if they were going through back channels. That's not that that them having no experience only served to give them a like plausible excuse for not having you know in quotes known the law you know when it comes to Dj and Shit like that. It's like they don't fucking care either way. It's just so yeah. Yeah, and this and this blows Sydney Pal in Michael Flynn's mandate argument out of the water completely by by them saying this lie to the FBI wasn't material. This proves that it was. And then together, all like all five volumes of the report represent three years of investigative activity hundreds of witness interviews, engagements, millions of pages of document review, and open close hearings. The committee conducted follow up interviews with Cohen Kushner, Junior Podesta State Department official, Jonathan, winer that's one of the architects of the Iran nuclear deal which were necessary after the committee developed additional information since the initial review that required clarification from these witnesses. So come back in, we need to talk to you and the committee said it was limited in some aspects of its investigation by assertions of executive privilege including members of the trump transition team quote the committee was surprised by these assertions because there were made inconsistently and because they have no basis in law. No. Marco Rubio says, we can say without any hesitation the committee found no evidence that Donald trump or his campaign colluded with the Russian government. What the? Sick of having this same argument over and over and over and over again it's so infuriating. And then. Mark Warner the You know the. co-chair, the did the Democratic Chair says nearly thousand pages volume five stanzas the most comprehensive examination of ties between Russia and the trump campaign to date a breathtaking level of contacts between trump officials and Russian government operatives. That is a very real counter intelligence threat to our elections. This can happen again. So we have two different spins and obviously bar. At the Justice, Department investigated Burr the former chair of the Senate Intelligence Committee Republican share. WHO'D May. have. A different view on this he didn't sign off on this report he had to step down because he was being investigated there were several other senators. Who had also made similar odd stockdale's right before a covert hit or as they new covid was gonna hit member with that secret briefing but none of them. None of those investigations continued burr and Burr had to step down and I these are just beans. But Hey, if my entire you know a podcast and your entire everything, we ever talked about Jordan if all that was just beings beings come true and my beans. Are. that. What happened here is that they got burned out of their put Rubio in told Rubio to spin it and say, no collusion look no collusion and and that's the reason they actually put this two page addendum on at the end of the thousand page report where they disputed the findings, Rubio disputed the findings. and. So I think that's why this didn't come out. On time it was supposed to come out before the Senate was took their recess. So that's what I think happened. They shoved him in there got borough output in. Rubio, made them right this two page addendum I don't know what they've got on him. And said, you know added sticking on their spin it put out a video and we'll try to put wink the public like we did with the Miller report you know the restaurant chain Rubio's I'm not kidding I used to frequent that place so much and now I, can't anymore I literally can't even though it's entirely unrelated even just the thought of supporting something. With the name Rubio, I cannot stomach it literally. Poor reviews. I lucky. Lucky for them known is as insane as I am but Yeah Marco Rubio's affected worst he's always I. Can't. I. Always think of Cameron Caskey to when I think of him in that town hall. Any just like. That exchange that they had if I'm remembering correctly on on gun violence that CNN put on your remember that yeah he used to such a horrible job at like navigating answering any of those questions in the wake of just like set of trashy that just fucking sex get him the fuck. Out Yes agreed yes. Agreed Great Recap of all of that. That was a lot. Thank you and there's and there's a lot more. I mean there's a thousand pages of this but you know if everyone's like, please explain it to us. We did for the last two and a half years on that other podcast that we've finished. It's all in there. In fact, our podcast even goes Z.. Steps beyond in some cases where where this report might say, Oh, and they had like individual four and like individual forests Clovis or sin or you know like I, know who the unnamed or you know. People are I can probably take guesses at what's behind the reductions all that's in the Miller she wrote God cast but. It is a day of Day of vindication for those of us who have been listening and following along since the beginning Especially when the entire Republican Party all the trump supporters are trying to gaslight us saying that we were insane. We're not. We were right. Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. I have a question that I'm sure you've answered at some point over the last three years. But. Now that we are, you know in two, thousand, twenty and Russian interferes is one hundred percent continuing to happen when we're talking about reductions and we know that things get redacted sometimes due to an ongoing investigation. Is it possible in general This is just more general question. If. You. Can it be considered an ongoing investigation of literally doesn't stop because the crime doesn't stop. Or would or would we have to assume that these cases would have to close and then be reopened in the context of same shit? Different Day are you asking? Is that why? There's so many reductions in this report maybe not is that why it necessarily but is that something? That's even like legally do you know if that's that's a reason for keeping an investigation ongoing maybe like in general I was just thinking that. As a as a legal question in general like when it comes to this is. A Senate counterintelligence investigation and not a criminal investigation. and. So No, you wouldn't have to not. End One start another one too to keep it going I. Mean I I I'm assuming the counterintelligence investigation into Russian interference is always ongoing. But I mean there are several reasons that you would. redact certain things right. And for example, like all these people who lied to Congress that we learn about in this report and that we knew about already those made been made as criminal referrals to different US attorneys offices, and then they have to redact that because that's harm to an ongoing investigation. Sure but. I mean as far as. Election or Fahrenheit. Crossfire Hurricane is probably twenty sixteen election interference and twenty twenty election interference probably has a different codename right. Got It. Yeah I guess. They the the Senate's when when they redact things. There's so many so many different reasons that they get to just like ominously half her redacting things Yeah and what I'm guessing in in in these particular cases are either sources methods. For example, like how they collected the information on Kalinic, they don't WanNa tell anybody that because they don't want Russia to know how we knew and then there's probably like I said, they probably made a lot of criminal referrals out of this investigation which are probably sitting somewhere going nowhere. about people who lied to the Committee Like we talked about when we got that information about Bannon and junior and Clovis and everyone the letters from Senate making criminal referrals to the Department of Justice that they lied those came from this investigation right and so you know those would be redacted somewhere redacted in the Miller report their redacted. They would be redacted anywhere that that information came up because those aren't resolved cases. Basically I'm wondering is, are we gonNA have to go through and wait for so much fucking lager for? Them to just like investigate this the exact same behavior but just in a different context or can they just keep the floodgates open and like just keep keep it keep it moving the investigations that are still going the criminal ones are the counterintelligence ones both I don't know I don't know enough about the rules to know what difference either would make. Yeah. No me neither but I mean counterintelligence stuff. No, there's never a crime, right? It's just a determination if there's a threat to national security. And so we've got that here. Yes, metaphor it was a threat to national security that the Democrats believe trump was a threat to national security based on all these contacts. But as far as I mean criminal referrals and stuff like that It's going to be these specific crimes. It's going to be what Roger Stone did in two, thousand, sixteen it's going to be what? Donald trump junior told Congress. And so if Donald trump junior lies to them again, you basically supersede the indictment open a new investigation or the investigation is still open but you know but shut know or you know if you close it and then open another one because well, we're not looking at two thousand sixteen we're looking at a Sherwani now. That that's kind of how I I assume that would. Go, but it makes sense and that's exactly what I was enquiring about. Thank you. Yeah. Word we gotta take a quick break. Says all this shit yeah. Treason word. Route We're GONNA take a quick break, and then we're GONNA come back with some headlines from under the radar. So stick stick with us. would be bad. Hey, everybody it's G in today's episode of daily beans is brought to you by Sun. Basket with so many of us practicing social distancing and trying to eat healthy while being at home I have found the perfect service sun basket. 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Tuesday after facing just like tons and tons and tons of mounting pressure by literally everybody whoever has hurt his name or anything he's ever done He's he's caved kind of saying that he's going to suspend the changes initiatives to the post office that were just like clearly a blatant. Whether or not you want to say that you believe trump was directing him to do this or not. It was just absolutely going to affect the effectiveness of USPS and their ability to. Conduct the mail in process for this election. So he said he's going to. He's just given his word at this point that they're going to roll back doing the things that they were doing. We were seeing things like post office boxes being. Taken a locked up mail sorting machines gone things being reduced just all of these cuts into rollbacks that. It? Completely the wrong timing for those things to happen he's been trying to hide behind this reason that it's just because the it was necessary change for the US ps to continue because of their budget issues but he's getting called on that relentlessly he set to testify before Senate Committee on. Friday And the House Oversight Committee next week and he is just GonNa get grilled his asking again So grilled and I'm looking forward to that I know I can't wait until Katie porter like breaks out the whiteboard and pulls out her fucking markers and does her thing I love Katie Puerto. So yeah. Yeah. Yeah and he said that he's doing he's doing the. Rollback to avoid this equipped to avoid even the appearance of any impact on election mail and quote, which is a good call if he is saying that with any amount of earnestness because it has a horrible appearance as I've stated as the whole country has been stating, he's also being sued by a fuck ton of states twenty one right now to be exact. There's so so many cases being being brought against him. There's one filed on. Tuesday. In Federal Court in Washington, that's arguing the postal service broke the law by making operational changes without first getting approval from the Postal Regulatory Commission. They're also arguing changes are going to impede stability to run free and fair elections, and officials. This is coming from officials from several state attorneys, General General's offices they're reporting to the Washington Post. So Constitution gives states and Congress not the executive branch power to regulate election. So that's the lens data some of these lawsuits are going to be happening through. Yeah Wow yeah. Well. He's also. Appearing would appear before the Senate on Friday they added that, and then he'll be talking to the house on Monday and. If I if I were them, I wouldn't just because like you said he's come out and announced I won't make any changes all stop what I've done. He's already kind of too late like you already fucked it up. Are Males already slow and like I don't trust him to do what he says he's going to do no. No, and I think that's what people are going to keep pushing fours for for some some sort of people are requesting from from the courts something that would mandate that he not be able to do that because right now it is just word. Yeah, and they're also I think I know the domes are working on some legislation to put a clean bill of funding for the USPS through and they're putting rules attached to that money because like we talked about yesterday, you don't WanNa give twenty five billion dollars to a guy who's going to light it on fire and Piss on the ashes. So. You know you put like regulations like you have to spend it on this put the put the sorting machines back stopped being a prick You know you have to guarantee us that all the ballots will be counted in handled properly it's shit like that. Hopefully. It'll pass hopefully it'll pass. Yeah. Definitely I mean it's one of those things that should have bipartisan support to but of course, it won't. It OUGHTA. Here's a couple of things I. Just wanted to play really quick from the convention last night. One of my favorite parts Michelle Obama was. Incredible and Bernie Sanders. Give a great speech, full throated backing of Joe Biden. But there was this woman named. Kristen, or Kiza. and. She's the one. Let's listen to a couple of clips really quick. I'm Chris Dinner Keesa. I'm one of the many who has lost a loved one to cove Ed. My Dad Mark Anthony or Keesa should be here today. But he isn't. He had faith in Donald Trump. He voted for him listen to him believed him and his mouthpieces when they said that corona virus was under control and going to disappear. That it was okay to end social distancing rules before it was safe. And if you had no underlying health conditions, you'd probably be fine. My Dad was a healthy sixty, five year old his only pre existing condition was trusting Donald Trump, and for that he paid with his life. The coronavirus has made it clear that there are two Americas. The America that Donald Trump lives in and the America that my father died in. An. Me Away. Trump obviously our thoughts. Father. SORTA faded so much worse just went after trump complete. Management of. Data driven rifts so great. So powerful friends claiming, yeah. It was really hard core always watching that like damn. We need cheaters. fucking. Day on in. Line now, rightfully. So I mean her her dad's dead because he trusted him. And it's like. It's so sad there's there's so many stories like that. Too I've read stories of. There is one guy who went to covid nineteen party that somebody was having. And he got sick and died and on his deathbed, he told one of the hospital workers just like. Fuck. This thing is for real. It's like. Yeah this is so sad. So tragic that people. It's like. I don't understand how messaging has been allowed to come out. That would lead people to believing you know this is this is some game that. That people will I do know how because the president of the United States is coming out and saying that and having a having her come on their in have such a strong. unapologetic. You know just like giving zero fucks I think was a super smart move by the DNC and sometimes I was sitting there listening her like. I try to think of things how other people that may not have the same views me would would receive something and I was trying to make the assessment of like you know doesn't come off as a bit maybe taking advantage of her situation on the part or something or or like dramatic in any way to someone that might not like I said to have the same kind of understanding and feeling as I do and I just kept answering. No absolutely not because all of this everything that she saying is one hundred percents. True and checking out it's not dramatic at all. It's a horrible situation that so many Americans are in it. It's like it's not dramatic at all. It's what's actually happening. Yeah Yeah. And it was a very powerful message I also thought bringing in a bunch of former trump voters was very powerful I. I don't subscribe to any who's mad that there's a bunch of former Republicans and current Republicans that are going to be speaking Colin. Powell's GONNA speak. Tonight. Meghan McCain McCain Cindy McCain is gonNA endorse Joe Biden. That's John. McCain's late John. McCain's wife. She's GonNa give a speech about how great friends they were and but seriously the end of the night speech. I do also want to say, I love this format. This particular convention has had twenty eight, million I think was how many tuned into it and all these record for. People watching a convention at the for the Democrats were it was ten point six million. If I if I get those numbers wrong, you can send me a correction but Michelle Obama fuck and threw it down I. I was really touched by her clarification about the old Obama family motto when they go low we go. Hi. Because we tend to, you know when we say that Matthew fucking whitaker is big Dick Toilet wine or you know. High. But she. But she put this clarification out there and she reminded us that going high includes standing fierce against hate. And that sort of made me feel a lot better about. The way we handle things around here. At the daily begins and muller she wrote because. That's kind of that's what we're doing. So it was like A. Punch Nazis. That's still the high road buck. Yeah. Thank you Michelle but I also really liked. Project Lincoln tweeted out we go low. So you don't have to and that I thought cracked me I thought that was really funny. But I wanted to listen to this Michelle Obama she fucking. Let's just not tweet but this Klis. Listened to. Michelle Obama. So, let me be as honest and clear as I possibly can. Donald Trump is the wrong president for our country. He has had more than enough time to prove that he can do the job, but he is clearly in over his head. He cannot meet this moment. He's simply cannot be who we need him to be for us. It is what it is. Now, understand that my message won't be heard by some people. We live in a nation. That is deeply divided and I am a black woman speaking at the Democratic convention. But enough of you know me by now. You know that I tell you exactly what I'm feeling. You know I hate politics. But you also know that I care about this nation. You know how much I care about all of our children. So. If you take one thing from my words tonight, it is this. If you think things cannot possibly get worse trust me they can, and they will if we don't make a change in this election. If we have any hope of ending this chaos we have got to vote for Joe, Biden, like our lives depend on it. So yeah. She just threw. It is what it is right back into trump's face and she she had this look on her face when she did it in this gleaming awry when she said it and it was the he is absolutely the wrong person for this for us at it is what it is and I I wish dislike I stood up and Yelled it was so I thought that was great. But we'll keep watching the DNC and reporting back and playing clips for you but I really love this format I know it's we're doing it because of a massive global crisis in part and Major part caused by the president were trying to get out of office but I really do like this format I? Think it's wonderful. And this is news to member member when we got Mike Bloomberg money offered to us when he was running for president and he wanted to run ads first presidency and we turned down like a boatload of cash and we're like not can't do it. Well, and then everyone's been wondering where his money is. Well, he has now said he plans to spend sixty million to which is nothing to him couch chains to strengthen the Democratic House majority in November roughly matching the money invested in flipping control of the house in two thousand eighteen, and this is according to a Bloomberg adviser familiar with the plans This is digital television digital and television ads to defend some of the twenty freshmen Democrats. He helped win in two thousand eighteen along with spending aimed at defeating additional Republican comments, and the new money goes to several groups. Including Revival of Bloomberg's old political vehicle, independence USA and donations to the House majority PAC, which is a group associated with house speaker. Pelosi. And So that's he's he's now he's going to give money over to the House I wish he would give them more to the Senate we really need to flip the Senate but we do need to retain the house as well. So yeah, Anyway Nancy's what's what's going on with with Bloomberg these days. So yeah, good to see him resurfacing in that headline not something like Bloomberg buses way into the race after lobbying lawmakers to change the rule so he can do so shitting on everyone's life. That could have. We could. We could seen something like that. Just kidding probably not. But who knows the bounds of money are unfortunately limitless in this country but yes. Up to Bloomberg for using his money in a objectively good way for sure that is that is read I wish more billionaires and millionaires with that that be awesome. Alright my turn. Yeah. Go for it. Perfect. I got a couple of quick stories here Okay. So this is a shady story trump administration. They have been using major hotel chains to detain children and families that are taken into custody at the border, and this is being done impart as you know so they have this in March they enacted this border policy where they were just GonNa? Stop Processing. People that were crossing the border including asylum seekers under the you guys in reason that they didn't want to press them into a detention center because I would increase the likelihood that they would transmit covid nineteen and they would be putting the contact with other migrants in workers at those facilities and so you know the plan was they were just going to send them back to their home countries Right away basically, and they said that you know they they their idea was at that was going to deter people from trying to cross over because the punitive actions were you know pretty much in a sense lifted relatively and less they came over and they found that they had a criminal history. But what they actually wound up doing was because of those lack of of punitive measures relatively again, the whole thing is you're stuck in horrible, but it's actually just resulted in more people coming. Over right now, that's what's being reported by New York Times, and so one of the things that they're doing, they're detaining children and families that are taken into custody at the border at these private hotel chains in what it's doing is making it. So it's impossible to make sure that those spaces are being regulated and it's creating what New York Times called a shadow system of detention and swift expulsions without the safeguards that are intended to protect the most vulnerable migrants. That's a direct quote so. This is. being facilitated by some private parties and it it's just there's more than one hundred thousand migrants including children and families that have been summarily expelled. From the country and it's it's something that's just really scary because you know the regulation in those facilities previously were already a massive problem in terms of safety and whether or not people were being taken care of in afforded any sort of human rights whatsoever. So this is a system now that is allowing. People to really go into the dark and the accountability is not there and it's just it's just frightening. Granted, the conditions of hotels are you know maybe objectively a little bit better in some ways than the cement cold walls that that they're detained in otherwise but with that also comes that lack of regulation lack of access to phone calls resources. There's like hardly any hope at this point of tracking children it that that element is even worse. So this is something that you might hear people try to spin and say is like a better alternative but I I really think. That is not the case none of what none of how they're handling. This is a better alternative no. Yeah. No family separations policies. From top to bottom fucked up and like you said and and like we talked about before, if any of these private contractors do anything untoward or illegal, it's way harder to hold them to account. Because they're not government. Yeah and my final quick headline us states have claimed their owed two point two trillion dollars to address the damage that has been caused by oxycontin maker Purdue Pharma LP's role in the US opioid epidemic accusing them of pushing prescription pain relievers onto doctors and patients alike, and minimizing the risk that that presented for abuse and overdose. So this is Produce. You know they've claimed bankruptcy in the wake of all these lawsuits and it's Just. It's just. They suck and I hope that they have to pay a lot CA. They've made Americans pay. So. Many pharmaceutical companies have already had to pay these settlements in. So we'll keep you posted on that one for sure two point two, trillion with a t It's quite a bit. final. Headline from under the radar and this is my wheelhouse. Aspirin you know the. Secretary of Defense, he wants to cut twenty two billion from military healthcare Pentagon officials working on Defense Secretary Mark Cost Cutting Review have proposed slashing military healthcare by two point two, billion, not twenty, two, billion skis me two point two, billion This is a reduction that comes. On the heels of a lot of people trying to privatize the military health system and some defense officials say it could effectively gut the Pentagon's health care system a pandemic. The proposed cut to the military health system over the next five years as part of a sweeping effort initiated last year to eliminate inefficiencies within the Pentagon coffers. But to senior defense officials, say the effort has been rushed and driven by an arbitrary cost savings goal. meaning that's not why they're doing it and they argue the cuts to the system will imperil the healthcare of millions of military personnel and their families. As we grapple with cove nineteen aspirin, his deputies have argued that America's private health system can pick up the slack imagine that they want the private health system to pick up the slack now. Roughly nine point, five, million active duty personnel, military retirees, and their dependents rely on the military health system, which is the military's sprawling government run healthcare framework that operates hundreds of facilities around the world. The military health system also provides care through tricare and try care enables military personnel and their families to obtain civilian healthcare outside of military networks. It also allows. Active duty service members, and their families to obtain care at Veterans Administration veteran's affairs hospitals the Va.. As part of the network provider to and it used to be the rule was you, you would send them to the va I because it's cheaper and the care is better than going to a private doctor. This is what my job was at the Va. I was embedded with the tricare regional office in the west region. There was only two of me in the country east region and west region I helped oversee the tricare contracts and help do the network stuff for the VA I was I worked for the va but I was embedded with trumpcare and dod. And that's because the VA is a network provider and should. Should beware tricare beneficiaries go before they see healthcare in the private sector and the reason is like I said. When veterans go out to the private sector or when military families and try care beneficiaries brought to the private sector the care is not as good and that is there are multiple multiple studies, white papers that I helped put out that are on that. And it costs two three sometimes ten times as much and it's rife with fraud. From these private doctors not from military members or veterans they overcharge. The. Government. For example, there was one place charging nine thousand, six hundred dollars for breast pumps that cost thirty two dollars and we were able to find that. Now this is clear move. This is a move to privatize care and move. This is a move. Republicans have been after for years same with the va they want to privatize the VA that's why you know Donald. Extended the choice program which allows veterans to go outside into the private sector for care. He didn't. He didn't come up with that idea was an emergency measure put into place back in two thousand fourteen when the waitlisted va were. So long that the you know the Senate committee on Veterans Affairs and everybody was like we need to let them out to the private sector will do this for a couple of years until we get caught up and invest another ten billion va to make sure that we don't have these problems again. Trump extended it because he likes to privatize VA and the idea here was to keep active duty service military members going to the base, the military treatment facilities to care but kick their families off and send them to private sector. Private doctors again at great taxpayer cost and much less quality of healthcare a move I opposed vehemently while I was at the Va.. But these proposed health cuts in the second generation of the defense wide review would degrade military hospitals as well to the point that they would no longer be able to sustain the current training pipeline for the military's medical force, and this potentially necessitates something akin to a draft of civilian medical workers into the military. Because the way that military doctors keep their chops up to go out to war and go out to the field is they do at these military treatment facilities and if they. Closed that down, there's no more training. There's no more doctors than they. WanNa go out to the private sector and hire a bunch of private doctors. Do you see where I'm going there trying to privatize this this this health system and I won't stand for it though I don't work there anymore. But? Anyway. We will be right back. I'm going to have a quick chat with Andrew Torres about Roger Stone who has just decided. He doesn't want to appeal his case anymore since his sentence has been commuted and we'll find out why there is a definitive answer. So stay with us. Hey everybody it's so many everyday tasks are more stressful and challenging these days. But seeing a doctor should not be that is why I use plush care plush provides primary and urgent healthcare through virtual appointments. Scheduling appointment is. So. Easy. Even if it's the same day I just pick a slot that works for me. Click book it online done I don't waste time on hold. Talking on the phone or sitting in crowded waiting rooms, which is not a- probably the wisest thing to do right now with covid. 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So and that, and by the way Richard Burr the chair, the Republican Chair of the Senate Intelligence Committee is the person I had flagged as you know, sort of the lookout guard atop Yodel Mountain. Yeah and boy at I was. A swing and a miss on that one Well, no, you might have been right had he not been investigated and subsequently stepped down from his position. Now we've got Marco Rubio coming out and doing the the bill bar dance like he did like Bill Barham for the mole report Marco Rubio doing for the Senate intelligence counterintelligence report. So I want to emphasize the attack on Marco Rubio joined the two thousand sixteen Republican presidential primaries was vis is a lazy underachiever whose bad at his job and does not show up to vote in the Senate and I want to point out. That pattern continues right like I do not know why Marco Rubio is a United States senator. He doesn't appear to enjoy the job he doesn't show his his. His non show break. is N Times the national average I mean you just he just doesn't care and I do not understand if you were a Florida voter house, you can vote for him but. Yeah. I don't get it either. But that's a side. Note side note. Yes. Trump is a counterintelligence problem Manafort was counterintelligence threat side note to that Roger Stone who came up several times today. He's dropped his appeal as unexpectedly dropped the appeal of his seven federal felony convictions. This is less than an hour before the midnight deadline that they were going to be. You know they had to file their first brief laying out there grounds for challenging stones, convictions and seeking a new trial. So he but right before the deadline, he had to turn in his reasons he turned in that he. Is, dropping, his appeal at did he did he not want to spend the money or did he think that may be trump's pardon promised that everyone talked about last night was for So. Here's it'd be okay answer to that. I don't know how to put myself inside the head of anyone in trump world, right? That's that's not a place I enjoy living I I can't figure it out. This was a foregone conclusion that today was going to happen. And here's walk. What Donald Trump did was commute the sentence of Roger We talked about this that leaves the conviction intact Eh, but he just says you've served enough time right and a commutation can range from what happened here, which was not only wiping away the entire sentence before Roger. Stone had had set foot in prison. But also you know expunging the twenty thousand dollar fine imposed on it IM- expunging seven hundred dollars special assessment rank. So you know if you have. Your three listeners, my three listeners who have friends who are struggling trump world like you know all right. You WanNa make the argument well, Roger Stone's two hundred years old and he learned his lesson like, did you really have to also wipe out the twenty thousand, seven, hundred dollars in fines that he could have easily paid that that seems something but but look like a commutation can't be can range from partial right could have condition did this This was in its entirety but like for example, one of the things that Barack Obama did that no president has done before or since was commute over a thousand sentences of non violent drug offenders rotting away in federal prison, right and typically what happened there was the the sentences were commuted down from mandatory minimums of years, juniors to a couple of months with supervised probation right like I. It's really sort of sensible. So All of that happened and and and stone inexplicably claimed that he was still going to repeal because you know he was innocent Here's the reason that's unbelievably fucking stupid right because if he won on appeal the the remedy you get when you win at the appellate court level is your prior your trial is thrown out and they order a new one. So. That and the commutation doesn't affect that at all right. That's not a prospective get out of jail free card right that says on. Sentence. A right. You've now served the entirety of all the government thinks you have to serve on sentence if the conviction that resulted in sentence. is thrown out. You get a whole new trial and at the end of that whole new trial if you're found guilty again which Duh of course you would be. Then you get a whole new sentence and guess when that trial is likely to happen hint, it's at a time in which donald trump is unlikely to be the president of the United. States assuming all you people do what you're supposed to do this this November. So yet. So that never made any sense it was all just right wing talking points of I'm so innocent ongoing. And no-one no-one who's not lying would have set right like if you were honest what you said was you know. We appreciate the combination we think the sentence was wrongfully imposed but Roger Stone's happy to have this. You know chapter in his life but behind him and now he can get back to you know being evil fulltime I I don't know like whatever his his press secretary in his his PR flex but but this was always coming they waited to the very. Last possible moment they tried to bury it That was not going to happen, but there was just there was no option you the the winning move was congratulations you get a brand new set. Yeah. All right. So he dropped his appeal because he doesn't fuck won a new trial right because he yeah. Okay. Now this now this is starting to make sense. Why didn't he just drop it before? When he got his commutation because maybe he was trying to like puff his chest out and say I'm going forward because I'm innocent. That's that's the only reason to do that is because you spend. So much of your life in crazy conspiracy theory land, and by the way like you know different different people in Trump's orbit right? I am convinced sort of trying to piece together like some of them are in fact, you know true believers in conspiracy theories so dumb like, Oh there's a child sex ring in the basement of pizza parlor that doesn't have a basement right like it. Some people truly believe that I do not think Roger Stone is one of those people I I know people in Roger Stone's orbit and and if any of you have any doubts i. Want you to watch the Larry Klayman taking a deposition of Roger. Stone. which is in connection with various civil lawsuits that claim it has filed against stone that that are just hysterical it. There is it is the best right. Hollywood is not releasing new movies. It is the best comedy on television that you will just go to Youtube and type in run stone, Larry, Klayman deposition, and Thank me later. But but like to get into this extended colloquy Larry Klayman, it's like well, conspiracy theories tapping sometimes right and Roger Stone's stock. There's this moment where he like looks up and he's like well, yeah. But not this insane want right like. You could just like see the gears grinding right there were like man where x nay on the telling people a like your world supposed to be on the same side here but you know they're not and it it's it's glorious intellectual I'm sorry you're. I'm sorry. This is a Wendy's got a little. distracted. there. You know. We played clips from that, and then also the one where he got really really mad do remember the deposition where he just kind of went off the deep end a quite a character it is it is one of the all-time grades. It features a clip that that made its way into the opening segment of my show where the the poor lawyer defending Roger Stone looks at Larry claiming and says, stop ask question a lawyer would. And I'm keeping that when in my back pocket for the next time, I have a particularly contentious deposition because. That is I I'm I'm sad that someone has gotten to use that line in it was. Well maybe one day. Andrew Torres. Thank you for for clarify net makes so much more sense. There's no way Roger Stone wants another trial another conviction and he'll go to jail for probably longer so. because we won't have bill bar in hopefully, like you said, if we vote numbers too big to manipulate if we all show up and do what we're supposed to do on November third. So thanks everybody check out the opening arguments, podcast I appreciate you coming on today. Absolutely thanks for having. All right everybody stick around. After this break, we have the good news block stay with us. 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It was Cohen and brody so bad it was Cohen. Anyway I forgive you got a real friendly email about that today. But whatever fuck anyway. I did it. There's your correction. Next next, we're GONNA get some good news stories. This is from Charles Pronouns who whom? Good news from one of your first livestream peeps a patron. I took a dream I took on a dream realized an adventure and hiked the pinole trail. This is a three hundred and fifty mile trail. Wow. From Alabama northeast Georgia through the. The. Talladega national forest mostly each day I started my morning and in the woods in the middle of nowhere breaking camp I would start my hike. Listening to the beans, ladies weren't awesome part of my morning routine and kept me in touch with what I refer to as the real world. Occasionally, I couldn't download you. But if I got to a mountaintop I usually had enough signal and that was the first thing I thought about I two hundred and eighty miles to Dalton Georgia with only sixty miles left. The other more professional hikers were being overcome by heat and helicoptered off the trail. Then I got sick with what I did not know discretion being the better part of Valor I quit the trail and rented a car back to New Orleans what plagued me my latest my last what plagued me lasted three days, and at the time I tested for covert and was found negative. Thankfully, it was just a summer cold I guess and there is Wow. That's incredible. Charles Fantastic job cheeses. That's crazy I'm glad we could keep you company. Yeah. Yeah. That is a very sweet thought I love when people tell us stuff like that I know where they're at and winning listen to us and it's really cool. But yeah, that's a first off read picture. Love the mustache. But yeah, that's that's big ups breaking up in a middle fucking forest. That's hard. Core every day. Sheds crazy. Yeah, that's. It Wow I'm glad you didn't have covid and good call call on knowing a hey I don't have to do this. So I'm just GonNa make the right decision chill I've done enough love that. Yeah. Yes. One of the core things that I learned in Yoga was hey, if you're in an uncomfortable position, you can decide to get out of it. Yeah, and that's totally fine and that works in life and in Yoga positions absolutely I live good job. Yeah Thank you. Charles mixed up from Seneca opponents he my friends sweet cat his nothing but love on her brother since he was adopted yesterday and it's just the sweetest thing ever. A dog person but this is adorable in a world of anxiety. We can find genuine friendships and love, and as the Beatles said, that's all you need. Ours cats, cats, there's kitties there's a tabby. There's a gray kitty who's given kisses to a tabby on the face. So cute look at Pete's. Next up from from Veronica. Pronoun she her. Hello. Bean Queens. Trigger warning eating disorder thank you for for the content warning. This is my first time submitting good news that isn't political. It's going to start off shitty but I promise it gets good. We've had a dime for every time we heard that. As a very young girl in elementary school, I was a dancer and I did it all the way through my senior of high school I enjoy dancing a lot but it took a really bad turn WANNA hit middle school at such a young age is being put in the back of dance routines or not even being allowed on stage because of my body type in the dance world long and lean is the ideal type and I was the opposite. Being told I was too fat at such a young age I ended up developing Bulimia and it has hindered me into my adult years. This is something that is really common in dance settings unfortunately. But now for the good, Shit I'm twenty three and I started doing pole fitness after moving to Massachusetts a year ago and it is taken my recovery to new heights for the first time in my life I, look in a mirror at a dance studio and I love my body if feels good to be a body positive and inclusive setting where I can not. Only, dance but recover and get strong I never thought I'd get here and it feels so damn good that I just had to tell you guys about it. Let's into you. Lovely ladies over the last few years has not only kept me informed but you've all inspired me in different ways in growing into the strongest woman that I am I look up to you so much. Thank you for all you do love you longtime. River, on a cut. Thank you so much. This is Veronica I. Think it is I love. You Dude I. Think I saw you post a picture on instagram that's related to this, and it's like fucking red. Oh my God, do dances. You know you're you're a gymnast tried to be a gymnast and they were like when I ended up being five foot six and I started to have bubis when I was like nine like me gotta go. Yeah. Yeah. I was like truly I was fortunate enough to be at a club that didn't like impart that stuff on US indirectly they kind of wound up doing it, which was i. Think just generally a part of toxic dia culture in you know but it wasn't. It wasn't malignant like other places can be and it was nothing compared to what you're talking about Veronica. That's fucking horrible. That's like I'm so sorry and that is so hard to recover something from something that was embedded in you at such a young age in your beautiful. You're so beautiful and I love you. Thank you. Same I love you. Yes. next up from anonymous pronoun she her our family finally got some good news in this shit show of year my baby sister learned she was expecting her child shortly before everything shutdown she also turned thirty and we managed to socially distant celebration for that but not being able to see us regularly and hug us has been tough on her she called on. Friday, from the parking lot of her doctor she just been told to go to the hospital to be induced three weeks early due to some potential complications she sounded so scared and lost and. As a family member closest to her geographically, not being able to hop in a car and go be with her really sucked. But around seven PM Friday night, my new nephew made his appearance since he was a little early, he was small just under five and a half pounds which may deliver easier on my sister. He's adorable imperfect and we've all been fawning over him via facetime since his birth I'm also pleased that he decided to show up at a reasonable hour since my sixth grader announced he wasn't going to sleep again until his cousin, right? So I got to that showdown. I'm hoping I'll be allowed to hug him before he's walking and talking. But for now, I'm going to take this as a win Congratulations to your family. Oh, my gosh. Welcome to be an aunt unless you already were but yeah, in new aunt. or you know another another opportunity to be an aunt I like personally your sixth grader who refused to sleep again until the cousin was born, that's that's hard core shit. It's sweet. It's nice. adorable. They solidarity it is. All right let's seem from. I believe this is no we've got more. From atom pronouns he him I, fucking. Love you all. Thank you. Great intro. It's me coffee crush Adam from. SEATTLE? I've been called I've been calling. This is. A love that story I've been calling my reps, local offices and leaving long ranting visceral, and swear filled voicemails demanding they call Nancy in the Senate and get to work to save our fucking postal service. So we can save our goddamn democracy I ranted for about three minutes to each of them I'm doing it again tomorrow and then keep fucking calling as hell. But if you'll write us an informed thanks in no small part to your podcast, pretty sure my phone calls have helped. My family has a gift for creative for creative expletive run on sentences and I thought I would share one with you. To leave in your senators voicemail. Hello my name is blank and I'm a constituent from blank and I'm calling to give you advice and make a promise. The advice is you get to work and save our democracy and the promise is that every fucking morning I'm GonNa Stub my toe, spill my coffee and burn my toast and when I'm good man I'm going to call you up and let you know just how fucking mad I am about every God damn thing. That shit stuff Turkey carcass you failed to impeach his rotten meat popsicle of VP and that half plucked and half boiled bullfrog McConnell have done this week and I'm gonNA call again after lunch get to fucking work. That's. How can you Barista not give you his phone number? I. Don't understand my God. What's the Turkey shit stuffed Turkey carcass. All my God. Rotten meat popsicle of a VP. Yes. Jesus you really didn't disappoint with that. You hide yourself up in delivered. That is amazing. That is so funny. Your family definitely has a gift for creative expletive run outside it's God I love that very satisfying. You also just really really did a good job with that too. You know how the words fit together as great truly musical. Yeah. It does have a good continents and rhythm Nice shakes it's Shakespearean almost you could almost like I am in Arabic pentameter that shit out and it would like. It would work. I feel it me too fantastic. This next one for you. Out from anonymous, Burnett she good news for Jordan and anyone else stinky butts. Thank you. There's a deodorant made for private parts. It's called loom I discovered this last year when I started having hot flashes, it is nontoxic in was made by a woman. No, I do not work for them but this product solve my issues with stinky, Botham heave it up. News in the laughs and then anonymous attached. She attached a picture of it. Nice packaging. Big Fan interesting. So do you like spread your cheeks and like wipe it up your crack is that how that works and you're I totally I think we can save that for after show conversation and Maybe. They have a video, but it's loom l.? U. M.. E., Hashtag loved my loom. Aluminum free. Free Doctor Developed hypoallergenic made by women for underarms and Private Parts I. Love The brand. Deville for myself on here it's. S disgusting. Whether, it's days or swept or stinky. Few have but. Problems. Jordan is your woman. Thank you I sincerely appreciate that and we'll probably try it out actually although I must say, yeah, my brother's more sweaty than it is thinking if I may just correct my ass record. Give it time? No, I don't know. Well. Well done well, done. Finally up from Gina Pronoun she her and the early stages of the pandemic, the company I work for reacted quickly and sent us home to work remotely. The good news is I've been able to get about an hour and a half more sleep every night, and I have a large amount of gas money and come in commute time save a large amount of gas money and commute time I've completely redecorated the backyard cleaned out the junk room and made it. My office slash husbands, music and workout room and started cooking a couple times a week, which is my husband. My husband is loving. We got married last September and if started our life together quarantine, which actually doesn't feel much different than everyday life, we're pretty much homebodies. Anyway the great news is that my employer is extended work from home at least until twenty, twenty one and has approve my request to work from a rental. Home on Catalina Island for the month of December Catalina is my happy place and spending such a large chunk of time. There will do wonders for my mental health also. So glad that commonly was chosen to be Biden's running mate I followed her closely since she spoke at my college graduation in two thousand seven. Awesome. Thank you ladies for making us laugh and helping us with our sanity. All wild earning congratulations Gina Catalina Gina. That yeah that's going to be framed. Lovely. congrats indeed an congrats on a be a newlyweds and Last September and Yeah. This is awesome. Thank you everyone. Yeah. We need this. Please keep sending them in keeping sending in your stories, keeping keeping, send your stories and the beard the Beauty Beers I don't know what? I'm talking about. Anyway. I. Really appreciate this stuff and I I I. Love Reading. These really makes me happy at the end of the show after all of the you know the. Fire Hose Shit show that that we have to deal with every day although today was a little more interesting things seem to. I know I've said this a million times, but things seem to be unraveling for this administration and we'll see if they can hang on and cheat. Enough. To hold power but hopefully, not and I know that everyone who's listening is doing everything they can to make sure that that doesn't happen. So thank you so much. Jordan. Do you have any finals? I do not all right. Well, thank you and I will see you tomorrow. We'll see everybody else tomorrow until then once the DNC and take care of yourselves take each other to care the planet and take care of Your Mental Health I've been ag during Coburn and them's the beans. The daily beans is executive produced and directed by AG Jordan Coburn, and engineered edited by Mackenzie Mozelle and Star Burns Industries are marketing manager executive, assistant production, and social media direction. As Amanda Reader Fact Checking Research by AG Jordan Coburn and Amanda Reader or music is written and performed by they might be giants or web design and branding or by Joel reader with moxy design studios, and our website is daily beans pod dot com.

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A Warmer (Future?) First Family - 8/19/2020

Quick News Daily Podcast

18:12 min | 8 months ago

A Warmer (Future?) First Family - 8/19/2020

"Today's episode is presented by there. There was founded with the goal of building an affordable everyday wristwatch that blends tasteful design with extreme durability and functionality varies a true American Watch company specializing in both quartz and automatic watches. There is offering our listeners fifteen percent off. If he used the code pod, go fifteen that is P. O. D. O. One five go to their watches dot COM V. A. E. R. to learn more and get your new time piece today now onto the show. Today is Wednesday. August nineteenth welcome back to another episode of Quick News daily and for being part of my news revolution. been using that as a Hashtag on instagram mostly sometimes twitter for a while now but I've never really mentioned it on the show so. We'll see if it sticks around as for headlines will over today we'll replay the highlights from ninety two of the democratic. Convention the election drama in Belarus the incredible news story I missed from that Senate Intel Committee report yesterday in update on the post office and we'll see maybe maybe a personal appeal well, see when I feel like when I get to so let's get caught up so yeah, let's start right there with the Second Night of the Democratic convention, the reviews in the story from the so far have been just how different all the opinions are really some winners clear winners of the night worthy John McCain video narrated by his widow Cindy McCain about the friendship between John and Joe Biden there's also Audi Barkan who you might recognize as a name appearing on this show a couple of clips from him with his interview with Joe Biden and such. So that was definitely a powerful message about health care and white. So important in that, it is still an issue in the campaign especially, with Cova, of course, there was also Jill Biden, Dr Jill, Biden I should say. And she did a really great job of telling Joe. Biden's history his story and really just making the focus, his character his empathy just went all around great person in. You know human person than he is it's the main thing that Joe Biden has and Donald Trump never will there won't be those types of stories next week no way those were all pretty solid winds across the board. There was a consensus that those were the best parts of the night where it got a little dicey in Split along party lines is when it came down to Bill Clinton AFC and John Kerry I mean, Chuck. Schumer's in there as well. But like I really have no idea why he was up there in the. First Place. Now, if you look at more left leaning websites and and commentators, the main main problem is that they didn't really give AOC much time. She can't like ninety seconds to make her speech and she is such a a symbol for younger people for Progressives that those types of people are feeling a little bit left behind especially when you're giving a lot more time to Bill Clinton and John Casick, even John Kerry is back to for some reason but for another audience, the strategy did exactly what it was supposed to. I'm reading Doug Shane's review over on Fox News. Yes. I dared to go to that dark website and He had this to say indeed the Democratic Party and policies that were displayed Tuesday night for instance, those of Clinton. are of a different period which in large measure succeeded in taking the country in a mostly positive and successful direction. However, in terms of what did not work with Cossio Cortez's speech, the Democrats did not succeed in convincing those Americans that they can trust this New Democratic Party to pursue policies and interests that will bring the country together move us forward in a moderate and inclusive direction. He goes on to say on the other hand speeches by former Secretary of State Colin Powell a military hero who supports strong national defense as well as Bill Clinton and Jimmy Carter. Two former presidents who are white centrists southerners emphasized Biden's leadership capabilities and unified opposition to trump. Put simply if this election is about a Democratic Party that is inclusive and fiscally moderate with a strong commitment to traditional allies Joe, Biden will almost certainly win. All right. So I mean just judging from that like. Progressives don't like what's winning over these centrists. Doug Shane identifies as like a Democrat, but he's always on Fox. News and you know he's worked for Republicans He. He criticized Obama and said he shouldn't run for reelection again. So I think that's like calling Joe Lieberman True Democrat, it's just it's not. It's not quite right. I think it became pretty obvious that Bill Clinton probably shouldn't have spoke most people are saying like in this era after me to and all the stuff that comes around with Bill, Clinton I don't know should he really be there at the same time? You hear Doug saying that they will sees ninety seconds was ninety seconds to many. So it's really hard to know what the winning strategy is going to be I mean I really do think it's as simple as having the most people on your side having the most votes wins. I know a lot of people like my age like. Joe Biden is like the devil or not not that far. But like Joe Biden's like this Republican, which is definitely not. End It is an outrage to see AFC just kind of pushed to the side, but I don't know they also say that John, Kerry, and Oh. Four was Kinda what Joe Biden's trying to follow, and then he's just like the boring candidate but it's such different time than for trump is not half the politician that Bush wants for all his faults there wasn't this huge sense of national security I guess national security is like against Kovic and trump is obviously failing in that. So I don't really know what to say to to folks my age I mean, we have to vote for Biden obviously, and we have to show up in big numbers because that's when the media starts taking you seriously, and if the media takes seriously think candidates have to. So it's really a cascading effect and we need to show up in November no doubt and most most of all, we need donald trump out of there. So speaking, of Dr Jill Biden, let's play just bit of her speech before we move on. I know that if we entrust this nation to Joe. He will do for your family what he did for ours. Bring us together and make us whole. Carry US forward in our time of need. Keep the promise. Of America for all of us. Everyone I'm Joe Biden's harassment. has heard heard unite excuse me. You can see why she's the love of my life Morocco of our family. She never gives herself much credit but the truth is she's the strongest person I know she's a backbone like ramrod she loves fiercely cares deeply nothing stops her when she sets her minded getting something right and you know for all of you out there across the country just think of your favorite educator who gave you the confidence to believe in yourself? That's the kind of First Lady Lady Lady Lady this Jill Biden will be godly. So Joe Biden Dot Com to join our campaign. Thank you all for watching. I'll see you soon. Thank you. Let's head over to Belarus and try to understand what's going on over there. The protests are continuing after the election they had on August ninth where the current president, the president who's been there for more than five years, Alexander. Lukashenko said he won a sixth consecutive term but a lot of the people of Belarus are saying there was huge election fraud. What do you do when the people start to rise up against you? You deploy the troops essentially. And likely seen here with the troops deployed in the streets it's gotten pretty violent. I mean much more violent they're. They've arrested over seven thousand people and two thousand and hope and released so far. Those who are still locked up our allegedly going through beatings and tortures in jails. So what do you do if you're Lukashenko and have those allegations against you? Of course, you signed an order awarding three hundred medals to law enforcement for impeccable service. During this deployment, the protests have gotten stronger this week since thousands of factory workers have begun walking off the job to join the protests. Apparently, Bellarusse produces a fifth of the world's potash fertilizer. So when these factory workers who are really the backbone of these countries, the manufacturing countries, that's a big deal. The head of the independent miners union said, the authorities should understand that they are losing control only Lukashenko's resignation and punishment of those in charge of rigging and beatings can calm us down. We will not back down the strike will continue to grow until he steps down. So. It doesn't sound like these are calming down anytime soon, actually sounds like they're heating up a bit Kushinka first came under fire when he jailed his opponent, the person who was running against, just put him in prison after that his wife stepped in to replace him. But shortly after the election results, she had to flee the country because I mean rightly. So I imagine she assumed they were GonNa come for her to the key that's allowed Lukashenko to get away with this thus far. But who knows how much longer is that Russia is their closest ally and they have offered unspecified security assistance to Lukashenko. Putin has also told German Chancellor Angela. Merkel and French President Emmanuel Macron to stay away in avoid putting pressure on the government in. Belarus. So he's trying to tell them to stay out of it, but there's a lot of these NATO countries including those on the western border of Belarus sang a man. We can't do nothing about this. We have to take some action. It's hard to see what the end game is here. I can't emphasize enough how notable it is that the factory workers are starting to join in I do have a sneaky suspicion that Donald trump is taking comprehensive notes about what Lukashenko is doing although I mean I doubt he writes much more than his name these days. Getting to the update on the postal service. Now, the number of states planning to file lawsuits against the US Postal Service and Lewis to joy has grown to twenty one and they're coming at him from a couple of different directions. One angle the coming at is with a lawsuit filed in Washington state arguing that the postal service broke the law by making operational changes without seeking approval from the Postal Regulatory Commission. They also say that the changes made will impede the state's ability to run free and fair elections. So that's one angle. The Second Angle Involves Donald Trump being the defendant as well as the postal service ended joy saying that trump infringed on state power to administer elections through his attacks on mail balloting so far all of those states in the first two suits have been controlled by democratic attorneys general. But one of the one of the attorney general said he expects that some Republicans will be joining in the third angle isn't quite clear yet but New York Attorney General Latisha James said she's planning separate legal action in New York so When it's all said and done, it sounds like there's can be about three lawsuits ongoing at the same time in regards to the postal. Service. I saw this morning that Nancy Pelosi responded to Joyce statement yesterday saying he was going to hold off on all those changes saying we kept the pressure on them and that's what worked in. They felt the they felt the heat something along those lines in. I'm fairly certain. She's smart enough to know this but man I hope she doesn't take his statement. As you know like binding or his word, you can't just assume those things over that. He won't reverse course eventually may be like October something when there's less time to have oversight over him before the elections and it's a big mess. So I hope she still presses ahead with legislation. So that it's in writing. It's enforceable by law that sort of thing. Our last story here will be about the big news from that Senate. Intel Committee that we learned later yesterday it's that the committee as a whole Democrats and Republicans made criminal referrals of Donald. Trump junior jared Kushner Steve Bannon Eric Prince and Sam Clovis to federal prosecutors in Twenty nineteen. So there are apparently two sections of these criminal referrals. The first part was people who were suspected of making false statements and that included Bannon. Clovis same clovis was a co-chair of the trump campaign apparently in two, thousand, sixteen and Prince who is a a private security contractor you might know him from running blackwater. Just not a great group, not a great guy, the second section that includes trump junior and Kushner deals with concerns about their testimony but it didn't go all the way to making a false statements allegation. It just means they want department of Justice to look into it. Usually, this would be like insane news while it is insane news, but like huge news but so far not too much is being made about it. Also in a normal administration, these would be followed up on in Kushner wouldn't have his security clearance still. Who knows what he's doing with that but again, these were referred to last year when Bill Barham was attorney general. So no wonder they didn't go anywhere. I guess just quickly Donald Trump is out this morning railing on goodyear tyres because the announced a ban on Maga hats apparently so Yeah, he's telling people don't buy goodyear tyres get better tires for far less. This is what the radical left Democrats due to play the same game and we have to start playing it. Now, you're talking about this whole one canceled contra thing. Honestly, Republicans have been doing it for years remember when they were out night smashing their keurigs and cutting poulter Nike stuff already purchased in out buying Goya beans and the there. There's just so much so much going on over there. But yeah, that's that's the president on twitter today otherwise that's it for the news I guess I just WanNa, make sure that everyone who's listening is subscribed to Quick News daily. That way you never miss an episode you don't have to keep searching for the show they automatically show up whenever there's a new show that comes out. 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Constitutional Crisis?

CNN's The Daily DC

10:19 min | 2 years ago

Constitutional Crisis?

"Next year. Someone is going to challenge. Donald Trump for the White House, the primary right home is a new podcast that helps you figure out who that candidate or candidates might be the primary ride home is a daily podcast dropping every day at five pm with the latest news from the campaign trail who's up who's down which issues are gaining traction. What is the best path to victory? The primary ride home is only fifteen to twenty minutes long. So it's the perfect way to catch up on. What you missed on your way home. Search your podcast app now for primary ride home. Tired of spending hundreds of dollars for prescription glasses. Xeni offers thousands of forcible eyewear styles starting at just six ninety five. No ridiculous markups. No hassles. Just quality affordable. I wear delivered right to you visits. Any today at Xeni dot com slash CNN. Hey, everyone. I'm David chalian, the CNN political director, and this is the daily DC. Thanks so much for listening today on the podcast, if we're in a constitutional crisis. What next the rhetoric has amped up from House Democrats, specifically House Judiciary committee chairman Jerry Nadler of New York and now this morning just a short while ago. Nancy Pelosi the speaker of the house said that she agrees with Jerry Nadler that we are in the midst of a constitutional crisis. Here is speaker Pelosi this morning. Yes. I do agree with chairman Athere because. The administration has decided that they are not going to honor their oath of office. Now, he's staked out because he has seen so much in the committee. The committee work, I'm very proud of the judiciary committee in the work that they have done and some of timing of one. We're ready will come to the floor. And we'll just see because there may be some other contempt of congress. Issues that we want to deal with at the same time. And he wants to do it as soon as possible. And so we now in addition to agreeing with chairman Adler that we're in a constitutional crisis that as Nancy Pelosi's at the Trump administration, the president himself sees absolutely no value in the three Coequal branches. Does not seem from her point of view to be upholding the oath of office that he took on the west front of the capitol in January twenty seventeen where he swore to uphold and defend and protect the constitution. Obviously, the president would disagree with that. But here is where we're now at you've got a complete stonewall operation from the Trump administration. They don't want to give Democrats an inch on Capitol Hill. This I think is what you would expect for most administrations versus congress especially of opposite parties. But obviously, the Trump administration sort of made a blanket sort of rule around this now, which is like your. Getting nothing you've got a subpoena from the Senate the Republican controlled Republican controlled Senate intelligence committee subpoenaed, Donald Trump junior to come back and talk about perhaps some discrepancies between what's in the middle report. And what he initially told the Senate Intel committee when he was before there that seems by all the public statements from Donald Trump junior team to not going to get cooperation of any sort. You've Bill Barr voted by the House Judiciary committee yesterday to be held in contempt. That vote is something that will go on to the full congress. And you heard speaker Pelosi say this morning, the reason she's not rushing the Bill bar contempt. Add a committee to the floor for a vote on contempt is that there may be others that need to be held in contempt. So there is no doubt that there is real pressure being applied to the to the nature of the constitutional structure of Coequal branches. Now, the judiciary is not wait in here yet. So we are talking about executive versus legislative branch oversight versus and assert an assertion of executive privilege. What I heard to my ear. What Nancy Pelosi advanced today that I thought was particularly interesting was that she seemed to create a new real red line. That's going to escalate things pretty quickly. If Bob Mueller, the special counsel is prevented from testifying before congress, you know, two years of investigation, a full detailed report on potential collusion or obstruction. And. A blockade around him now, which is a complete reversal from where the president was from where Bill bar was just a couple of weeks ago in allowing Bob Muller testify. Now, there will be questions, of course, of Bob Muller is still currently an employee of the department of Justice do things change when he is no longer employees again things will be fought out. But this is not White House counsel. Don, mcgann. This is not a cabinet member. This is the special counsel. Now, I will say this is one of the key differences that we see now about the expiration of the old law governing the office of independent counsel. What Ken Starr was in one thousand nine hundred eight because Bob Mueller is in the direct line of reporting to the attorney general. That was not the case with Ken Starr. Now. Nobody liked the independent counsel. Odd seemed on Capitol Hill. Democrats Republicans have really let it expire. But it is in a moment like this where you can understand the need for an independent counsel versus a special counsel in terms of getting public testimony out of that figure who is the one who is more steeped in every single investigative banner that has occurred than anybody else. So. Speaker Pelosi seemed to say if most prevented from testifying we're going to be in a whole new world. Now, I don't know you can't now it's an ultra constitutional crisis. I mean, the problem is when you declare a constitutional crisis going on in the country, you sort of have nowhere to go. And this is my point now earlier in the week on the podcast. I went through the political conundrum that Democrats face over impeachment. And where the public is in the polls and all that. But this to me raises a big question if we're gonna see week by week another cabinet official held in contempt more refusal from the administration to give any documents or provide any testimony a refusal to allow Bob Muller to testify if we see Democrats continuing to hold hearings and ask for things if we see Democrats opening up new avenues of investigation at a certain point. The Democrats in charge of the house are going to have to explain to the country and to their voters that delivered them the majority. Why not impeachment? Because again, put the politics aside. I know I that's hard for me to do here. I tend to see everything through political ends put the politics that it's unpopular may be bad for Democrats aside, if you're saying we're in a constitutional crisis. If steadying is out there saying, you know, we're gonna follow all these steps. And if it leads up to impeachment so be it Nancy Pelosi says to this has to be methodical. She says you can't impeach for political reasons. Just because you don't like the president or you want to get them. You also can't not impeach for political reasons speaker Pelosi says, and I'm so curious to see how she's going to get there. Because if the idea is that you're gonna constitutional crisis. You keep attempting ways to get information or do your oversight function. They are thwarted that is the ultimate tool that the constitution has in its framework for the congress to be a check on the executive that actually is the ultimate tool and so. May be politically unpopular. But if speaker Pelosi prevents the Democrats from going there at a certain point, what is all of this that they are building. To what logical end is. This are the Democrats just gonna throw up their hands and say, okay, the Trump administration didn't give us anything in. So we're going to go home and focus on other things now, and that seems also politically perilous for them because it will deflate their base in many ways. So you hear speaker Pelosi agreeing in a constitutional crisis. You also hear her today sort of setting a new red line on Muller testifying is going to be a bit of a red line here in terms of really escalating tensions of if that doesn't happen. And you hear from the president at his rally last night. How much he wants to use this how how politically successful he thinks eight is to run against the Democrats in congress who just won't stop after years of investigation after he was cleared by Muller embar, they just keep going, and that is going to be a galvanizing call for Donald Trump and his supporters. And so for add a complete loggerheads. And if you believe it is truly a crisis. I'm not sure it is yet. But let's take Jerry Nadler. And speaker Pelosi's words added for the moment, my question back at that point that sort of hangs out there is so where to from here if you've already kind of ruled impeachment, not you haven't said, it's off the table. But ruled it as politically undesirable thing to do where to from here. How do the Democrats get out of what they have declared is a crisis that to me is a question that now sort of hovers over their heads as they go down these roads, which I'm not argue, I don't even argue that they're not justified. There may be real good evidentiary fact base reasons to pursue these investigations. But politically where to from here. That does it for this edition of the daily DC. Thank you all so much for listening. Hope you'll tune in again right here tomorrow.

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Ep. 836 What Really Happened Yesterday?

The Dan Bongino Show

1:00:27 hr | 2 years ago

Ep. 836 What Really Happened Yesterday?

"Get ready to hear the truth about America on a show. That's not immune to the facts with your host. Dan bongino. I want to Dan Bongino show producer, Joe. How are you today today? What did they would it? They what. Really stacked Newsday. So don't go anywhere. Let me just get right to it. Folks. I wanna waste your time today show brought to you by our buddies at saucy, a new sponsor, check them out super easy to use a love this sight, everyone at some point is wish they could just have beer wine or liquor delivered. While someone finally decided to do something about it and my wife, and I enjoy Saturday night date nights at home in our backyard. Now, it's easy to get your beer wine or liquor delivered right to you and your introducing saucy the alcohol delivery, apps AUSSIE delivers your favorite beer wine and liquor right to your door on demand. 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There are a number of things I wanna point out to you. In addition to some other stories out there. I have some pretty good contacts. Obviously in the secret service, and other way, and and in other places in the federal government just from having worked there. I'm the Pat myself on the back. It's you work there. You'd have the same ones. There's something not right here. Now, I guess the best way to do. This is to not bury the lead and put the lead in the front as I've been doing lately, there's only two possible explanations to this to this suspicious package threat. We have out there explanation. Number one is that this is a grotesquely rank amateur intending to inspire Taryn the terror part applies to both explanations because any idiot willing to do such a I mean, this something so stupid and traumatize people like this. You're a savage right explanation. Number one, Joe this is a an amateur Alex plane why in a second. Or explanation? Number two. It's not an amateur matter of fact that someone who knows exactly what they're doing. And is trying to look like an amateur now, those two cannot possibly exist at the same time, you either don't know what you're doing. Or you do know what you're doing. And you're trying to look like someone who doesn't know what they're doing Ma. Right agent Bongino. Well this year. Yes. I know. And I I was gonna talk to Joe Joe, and I are friends. So we chat before this show. I said let me save this one for the because I appreciate Joe's genuine reaction. Okay. So I'm in chatting with some of my buddies one of the things that sticks out to me until others is the fact that these are unbelievably amateurish devices, let let me just point out some things to point to indicate that they are they're not these are not devices that someone who is experienced in these sinister dark arts, I would put together number one. If you were intending to harm someone via a package bomb guy. God forbid, you do not want that package bomb to be suspicious. Well, why would that be Joe because simply you don't want it to be detected. This is not complicated. So there are things you do to minimize detection. These are obvious ones that were not present on this. I mean, you don't put a printer label on a package. In font. Seven hundred fund you get what I'm saying you keep the font normal or you you you print in normal block letters. So it would look like a standard package or envelope. That is not the case with this thing. Secondly, as I indicated on a FOX and friends appearance this morning, and I'll put out to you there. And this is all out there, folks. I wouldn't divulge any classified information is all out there ready. All right. I wish it weren't. But it is printers leave a signature on printed documents. I don't know if you all are aware of this. But they do it's like a fingerprint isn't by gave fitness. Well, said by friend day, leave a printer and how it's done. I I'm not at liberty to say, but it's technique. We use when investigating counterfeit money in the past. When I first got on the secret service what we call peanuts. Peanuts, computer, printed, notes were almost non-existent. Everything was done via some form of oppressor printing press as printer technology got better. People started a pass what we call peanuts. One of the ways that's very easy to detect peanuts is by the pattern a printer leaves on a printed Bill, you can find out what printer it is. Like Joe said, and I'll leave it at. This leaves a fingerprint that was fingerprints. And literal fingerprints are most likely on those packages, and on those printer labels. This is an amateur hour operation combined that with the size seven hundred font on the front, I think meant to draw attention to these packages, which makes no sense. If your goal was to get these packages God forbid to detonate says to me, again, this is either an amateur operation or someone trying to look amateur. I will get to that point again in a moment. Some other indicators that there's something seriously wrong in very suspicious about this case outside of the obvious disturbing nature of it in general. The packaging folks people who do this and and people like the the Yuna bomber and others who have successfully sadly pulled off these horrible attacks the packaging, the excessive packaging is one of the indicators at there may be something wrong with the package at your location, excessive packaging and tape is put in for a reason, Joe the reasons quite obvious. If you think about it, if you don't want your device to be detected. You can't have the device inside get somehow get wet on the packaging and say one of the angles of it if it's a pipe or whatever it may be or some kind of explosive device in black powder. You don't want the angle to push through the envelope. You have it. I'm saying you don't want. You. Don't want the envelope to open. So it's not uncommon to see this excessive packaging, and wrapping and taping and taping on top of more taping in these devices that was present here having said that the excessive packaging is usually an indicator and this person made a point to really overdo it with. The packaging on this one. Another point indicating the amateur nature of this the stamps, six forever stamps, the same stamps put on these devices the same kind of stamps, the same obviously, the placement that's pretty standard on. I mean, that's obvious. But the six stamps in in that same layout on the on the package the overs the the overuse of of postage putting all that postage is another indicator that this was an amateur hour operation. This was done often in the past and these incidents, the excessive potions postage to make sure the device, let's say gets to its intended location, but this one against seemed to be obvious combined that with the fact Joe that these stamps were not did not have the black parallel lines over the stamps, which the post office does after the processed through the facility why? So that the stamp can't be reused, right? There are no stamps on the stamp. Meaning these were not processed to a post office facility. Meeting. Why would you put the stamps on there? It was either a courier or they were hand delivered and meant to look like US mail. They were not. Another indicator. This is an amateur hour operation or meant to look like one. Ladies and gentlemen, if you were so driven by hatred that you felt the need to mail a explosive device to a person you could not stand and had such vitriol in your heart for. That's us. John Brennan as an example. You would probably figure out where he actually worked and understand what the spelling of his name was that's not what happened in this case. The printer label not only male the package for John Brennan to CNN, but it's spelled John Brennan's name wrong. It's about the number of names wrong spelt, Debbie Wasserman Schultz name wrong as well on the return label. Folks, John Brennan his name is spelled with two wins and not one John Brennan does not work for CNN. John Brennan works for NBC. If you are deranged enough to do this and send the package, the John Brennan, you would have thought it putting all that that that work air quotes here into developing your deadly device or or or you're suspicious package in general. You would think you would do basic research to figure out what John Brennan name is actually spelled like and where he were. This all reeks wreak. There's something. Not right about this case. Well, something is not right now. Here's the kicker, again, we're dealing with the headline here. This is either a rank amateur. Or a hard call professional designed to look like a rank amateur. Now, I've given you know in evidence so far that this is a professional. Joe all I've said so far is the print the packaging stamps misspellings? The names the way the devices were delivered. This sounds like an amateur. Does it really let me bring up an interesting point to you. Bob brought up to me agent Bongino. Yeah. Joe if you were God forbid in amateur bombmaker putting together these devices, and you were so bad at doing it. You couldn't even figure out the initiator how works right, but you're dealing with highly explosive toxic compounds one of the things we'd seen in the past. And there's there's numerous examples of this are these guys missing fingers, sometimes they turn up dead or typically, we get a call from a police department saying, wow, we heard a loud explosion in apartments succeed. Why does that? Happen because they're so stupid. A lot of these rookies at this. They can't figure out how to not blow themselves up, ladies and gentlemen, even professional bombmakers. A lot of them are missing numerous digits on their fingers. All the evidence. I gave you just now is that this person has no idea what they're doing thankfully in the construction of an explosive device inserted into the mail system or the courier system. If that were the case, it would be highly likely highly likely that this person would have either killed himself by now, or we would have some hospital records of someone showing up in a hospital with a missing digital at arm because they have no idea how to construct these things. How do we know? They have no idea because none of them actually exploded. Thank the Lord. None of them. That says to me, ladies and gentlemen that. This was not an amateur. This was not an amateur. This was probably someone with some experience who design these things to intentionally not go off. Some of the other indicators one of the bug. According to media reports one of the other devices was constructed using PVC pipe. You know, ladies and gentlemen, that's obviously a very stupid way to do this. You have to construct. What creates the pressure in the blast is constraining the actual explosive power within steel encasement. Right, right. It's what creates that force. If you just light up a bunch of black powder on a field. You just get a poof you constrain those gases and a steel tube. You create a lot of problems. This is clearly in my mind at this point somebody who knew what they were doing and wanted these devices to be detected. Wanted these devices to be detected. Now, what worries me about this? Now Joseph is that the potential for a tactical shift going forward. If what I told you is true. And I believe it is. And I believe was person will be caught expeditiously. I'm expecting. I mean. I mean, listen the predictions game is responsible here. Religious say in the coming days. I believe someone's going to be caught I believe who who it is. And. I mean, just not say too much. I think it's surprise you. Yeah. I think it's going to surprise a lot of people whilst it's going on here. Behind the scenes with this. But what worries me now is tactical shift from this person. If this person is I believe has some kind of experience with explosive devices, how did detonate them and most importantly, Joe, how do not detonate them how to get these kind of black powder or potential explosive devices through the mail without them going off. And I believe that was the intention at this point at defies credulity at this point that this person mailed mind devices, none of them went up. What worries me is a potential tactical shift to devices that will go off. That will go off. That shouldn't be on. Everybody's mind right now would not be unheard of for things. Like this to happen. Now one more point on this because I do have a lot of news to cover today. You know, the example, it's brought up a lot. I know because it was brought up to me on the news. And a couple of radio interviews about the unit bomber and things like that. Then it took a long time for the Unabomber to be found. In other words, that this person may may take a long time to catch. This person's. Well, it may I don't think it will. I believe the fact that all these packages were left behind these behind a body of evidence. There's a lot of tape on some of these devices folks tape is the way we get fingerprints the chances of avoiding a fingerprint on nine unexploded devices are slim to none. But I believe this person will probably be caught in the coming days. And I just. You have a question. Yeah. I do have a question. I can't remember who said it. But I want to know if it's correct. If you think is corrected. There's more detonations of bombs being built than there are bombs being used an execution is that. Yeah. That's that's exactly right. That's one of the reasons I mentioned that to you one of the points. I've been discussing with a lot of Donald and not blood say, yeah, it's an awful. And it's speaks to a person's ability to professionally handle that you brought this up explosive device. These are obviously toxic compound. Yeah, obviously. And the fact that none of these devices have exploded or we have no indication yet that they've exploded. While they were in construction says to me that this is someone who knows what they're doing. That's that's what I meant. Yeah. Thanks, man. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Of course, I saw you. You were Joe's doing this thing where he liked touches his chin and majo- touches his chin. It means. He's got some kind of a question. He's waiting for me to answer. But on the unit bomber frontage want to tie. That part up to the Yuna bomber operated over years and years and years, and he was tactically very strategically a pudding, those those those units those explosive devices in the mail at different locations over extended periods of time the reason he took so long to get caught as it was no clear pattern at the start. Well, what what's happening? What's different in? This case is there is a clear pattern. We have the stamps of the packaging the unexploded devices. The fact that he may have used a courier we're going to have video. There's a video dragnet all over Manhattan where this device this morning that was left at the Niro's place in Tribeca, visit the triangle below canal in downtown Manhattan, these these people whoever did this or was organizing this did it in such a short period of time that they left it. They had to just by default having these unexploded devices in the video left the body of evidence behind and given the full assets of the United States government dedicated to this. I believe this person will be caught soon. Very soon. One final note on this. I have an article up in the show notes today. Encourage you to read I was furious furious yesterday at the media coverage of this, ladies and gentlemen, it has been disgusting. It has been horrifying. You know? I said to you Joe I should've asked you to do this. You know, we've been busy lately. And I don't want to bog you down with work. Right. What I thought of this last night? And I just got so busy. I forgot it. But. I did a show, ladies and gentlemen, a long time ago after the horrendous baseball field incident now Zanjeer where Steve Scalise was was shot and number of other members of congress were shot at by a Bernie Sanders supporter, and Joe, I know you remember the show, and you know, I don't like playing clips of myself kind of know be. But I can summarize what I said because I remember the show like it was yesterday. And this just goes to show you the pouring disgusting horrifying coverage of the liberal media whore. Renders people out there. I mean, unbelievable what they're doing here trying to pin this on Donald Trump. I had said to you back then I'll say it again. And I will say at any time this happens after the Bernie Sanders supporter nearly killed Steve Scalise. I made a point acutely in that moment that we have to temper this and understand that. This was not Bernie Sanders. Fall. It's not now you call it. Whatever you want. Listen to me. I don't care because I know where my heart and my. Head were at the time. Right. It is a dangerous slippery slope to start blaming other people. Donald Trump Bernie Sanders or Sarah Palin or anybody else for the derange action of lunatics. Joe neither you nor. I have any control of what people decide to do out there if they have such darkness in their hearts that they want to physically harm others. We have made a point on this show repeatedly call it your virtue, signaling. I don't care what you call it. I know I have made a point with this show repeatedly. Because I know what's in my heart. I know what's in Joe's heart that violence. Proactive. Violence is never ever ever ever the answer period. Full stop. Thank you. I'm not telling anybody not to defend themselves if they're attacked. I have said this over and over and I made a point after that dreadful episode with Steve Scalise where he almost died. That was not Bernie Sanders, full and the minute we go down that road that well, you know, the guy was Bernie supporters. So Bernie did this. We open ourselves up to a society of really mob like behavior where anyone and every. Everyone can be attacked at anytime. Anyone anyone could be tied to anything? They can say oh my gosh. Joe Armacost tweeted a year ago, you know, that he didn't like the politics of Maxine Waters. Joe's get up. You get what you what do you get you get a witch on it legitimate witch hunt. Remember the the witch trials if if if they float they were witches, and if they drown they will which it was like you were which either way you was a lose obsessive. Probably didn't explain that. Well, so get emails, but you get the point dole purpose of a witch hunt. As you always find a witch. And many of you thank agreed with me. I got a lot of feedback on a couple of you didn't you said. Well, listen, the Democrats are out there calling for a of confrontation, folks. Yes. The ones who are calling for aggressive confrontation public officials out there. I'm not going to tell you have not played a role at least in creating an environment. A really nasty toxic toxic environment. I'm not I've never I've always gone after these people for doing that. But we cannot put the behavior of individuals on others. It's it leads us down a dangerous path. Now, I only say that because the media they're abhorrent. Our rent this coverage of this event. Joe they have zero clues zero none. They have absolutely no idea who did this. They don't know the motive of all of the ws out there. The how the who the why the win of all the ws out there? Joe what's the most important who? Who did this is the most important? That's how you determine a motive. They have no idea folks, they have no idea who did this. And you've got people like Brian Stelter making these slight situations that these are Trump targets, you got CNN running chirons target Trump targets under attack as if Trump somehow was responsible for this. I said t one that episode wrap it up with this. I said to you, wait, you watch when something happens to a democrat was say in the store in the Scalise since when a Republican is under attack the media will pay you back, no favors and of the point. I was making at the time was I was not doing it. Because I was expecting the media to be honest later. These people are not honest. They're not I remember the show. I said to you. I'm doing this. Because it's the right thing. It is not Bernie Sanders fault that some looney. Tune tried to kill Steve Scalise on a baseball field. It's just not. You know, what people I got some criticism for owning owning the libs is about the exercise of political power. You idiots do even listen to the show to these morons. Have you? Did you miss the whole episode? We have we have purposefully maybe in a former secret service, they'd never experienced with this openly vigorously spoken out against these kind of aggressive confrontational tactics. But make no mistake Joe from the corrupted horrible media, I expect no courtesy in return. None I knew you would do this. I knew you would do it when it happened. I knew you would do it immediately without any evidence. I knew you would not practice journalism. I knew you would practice liberal liberal narrative, advocacy, and sadly, tragically you prove me, right. And you know, what even though you continue to do this God forbid another incident happens with the democrat. Another incident happens today, God forbid, one of these devices is functional and actually goes off. I will still no matter what if something were to happen to a Republican today. I will insist because it's the right thing to do that the individual is responsible for their behavior. This is not some collective thing where Democrats are responsible for what some looney. Tune does. But again, ladies and gentlemen, expect no courtesy and no civility and know morally or ethically, upstanding behavior from the media who will turn around on a dime and blame you for this. Ignoring the fact that white powder resent the Don junior's house. That's there was some suspected writes in attack on Susan Collins house, expect none of that. Jim Mattis got a package. Those stories have all disappeared. Joe? Can I say one more thing, folks? You know, the treatment of FOX. Me said, well, you're on fire. I don't care. I'm sorry. I have to put this out there. The treatment of FOX by other left-wing media nuts out. There has been disgusting. Fox has been running twenty four hour nearly twenty four hour sometimes commercial free coverage of the attack on CNN and Democrats. You know why Joe because it's an important story. Right. And yet these other stories. Trumpy and called the Nazi treasonous stories about rice in attacks on them white powder day, get coverage by the other networks, but they go away quickly. But when it comes down to a real story FOX provides twenty four hour coverage and yet they'll attack FOX. Gross gross. Absolutely grotesque. All right. I got a lot more to get through today. Folks today show. Also brought to you by buddies at quip. You ever need that pristine clean kind of feeling in your mouth. And you just can't get it from a regular to using. That's because use it by the way, somebody picked up something you said about Elizabeth Warren on a thing that I totally missed that. I didn't get that. What either I missed that? I didn't get that. I totally missed that one Joe is his all full of these things. And I by the way, I did get the beta thing folks, kill right, please tell them before the show. We did that the beta we I knew it was a joke. The jet thing was a set-up folks, we get it. 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Go check that out. All right, more breaking news here. So I've been working on something for a while on this spy gay case in the book. It's some of it's in the book, we kinda hinted at it. But at the time of printing, I didn't have. The body of material. I do now to two point two two win assertion. I'd like to make. But there's something very interesting someone who emails me regularly emailed me yesterday. I was hesitant to bring it up yesterday. But I've been holding onto something for a while with the popadopoulos angle this by gate case, Joe, I haven't discussed this, which no you haven't. But it is it is fascinating. Vokes? There's an article from November ninth of twenty seventeen by Allie Watkins, I'll remember the name some of you are picking up right now. Some of you may not be there's an article in politico, I'm gonna put up in the show notes. And again, it's from November ninth of 2017. It's going to be the second or third article down in the show notes. If you subscribe to my Email list, Email them right to you. And it is a fascinating piece, not only because of the content of it. But who wrote it Allie Watkins Halley Watkins, the author who is Allie Watkins, why does that name sound familiar? Allie Watkins was the love interest girlfriend of the Senate staffer on the Senate Intel committee that was handling the collusion investigation show, the girlfriend of the Senate staffer on that committee who was alleged to be the recipient of many leaks from that committee. You remember wolf the guy on the committee was arrested and is being prosecuted for allegedly leaking the Fiso warrant, yes. This is his girlfriend Allie Watkins who was supposed to be the recipient of the text messages about the FIS award. Now, remember we discussed this before he if interestingly enough when the Pfizer award is the delivered to the Senate Intel committee excuse me, what is delivered to the Senate and kill Intel committee. It is likely delivered and unredacted form. The Pfizer warrant is eighty two pages. He tax wolf is girlfriend at the time. Allie Watkins, according to the charging documents he texts his girlfriend eighty two times most likely screen shots of each individual page of the FIS warn. Now, if you're a closet investigator out there, you're probably figuring out where I'm going with this. If not I'll explain it to you. There were a whole pages of the FIS warned blacked out. Meaning they were like black dots. They got the Senate Intel committee most likely the unredacted portion of the FIS it if it was eighty two pages, and he Texas girlfriend eighty two times, he most likely Joe would not text this girlfriend a fully redacted page eight Joe check this out. Here's a big black dot a page. They're not going to do that. He would only why would you text pages and pages and pages of blank documents? You wouldn't do that? It's hurt. It's ridiculous. What is what am I suggesting I'm suggesting that the unredacted Pfizer? In other words, this entire basis for this case the garbage case that's in there. All the information that we're supposed to see soon. If Trump follows doing this declassification requests that the media may already have this may already have the unredacted Fiso with all the devastating information in there. Now, the author of this piece Watkins in this politico piece is the according to the reports is the girlfriend as the recipient of these tax. So she may have a boatload of information about the Genesis of this case, you folks, please understand what I'm telling you because the rest of the story that part's old. But if you don't understand that part the rest of this will make no sense, the author of this politico piece about to dig into and some of the very very suspicious components of it is the girlfriend of the guy leaking sensitive information from the Senate Intel committee and one of the peace. Of that sensitive Intel information is I believe the unredacted FIS based on the pattern of texting. Meaning she knows almost the whole story that new Ness and others. No because she's most likely read portions of the unredacted FIS and understands how bad this case is and some really suspicious stuff now. Now, when you read this politico article, a whole lot of things that are going to start to make sense. The political article is about myth sued and popadopoulos remember miss soothes, the Maltese professor who starts this whole thing by confronting popadopoulos in March of two thousand sixteen by a meeting with popadopoulos and alleging that the Russians have third, but but one. Move, sir. Joe? Introduces popadopoulos at one point to a woman he calls, and I say he calls because nobody's really sure what this woman's name is some this is a good portion. This is in the book, by the way, this is my spy gate book. But introduces Masud introduces popadopoulos the Trump team member. To woman by the name of Olga vigneault, GRA Tova. Whoa. Poland sky, depending on what? Last name you choose. Yeah. And he introduces her Joe as Putin's niece. Let me read from the piece. This is gonna I promise you this is going to be. We go in here. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I this is going to get good. So again, this the woman writing this likely knows the entire story about FBI malfeasance because her boyfriend is on the Senate Intel committee, and we know is texting her. Here's this is from her. Politico piece, quote misset introduced vinaigrette ova popadopoulos is someone with high profile ties to the Russian government. Oh, oh, Russian woman. Miss goes. Hey, look, it's Putin's nation is high profile highs in the Russian government, which was then seeking better relations with the US and an end to western economic sanctions imposed over Russian aggression in Ukraine. One popadopoulos Email to Trump campaign officials said the woman had offered to. Oh, this is too perfect to arrange a meeting between us and the Russian leadership to discuss US Russia ties under President Trump. Wow. How convenient so the Maltese professor Joseph myth Souders alleged to have started this whole thing. Right. And in the democrat narrative is a Russian agent, despite the fact that all the evidence indicates he has significant ties to western intelligence, not the significant as significant to his ties to Russian Russian agents. All of a sudden finds this woman show at a nowhere who claims to be Putin's these who claims to have these high level ties to Russia and could set up meetings. Whoa. It knack. Convenient about. What's interesting? This is news. That's in the book. We've been holding onto some for a while and an Email. I got yesterday makes leads me to believe that it's probably time to to put it out there folks with fascinating about the one of the documents used to prosecute popadopoulos. Is if you read. About his interactions with myth sued. And hat tip to you know, who you are. They're spoken about in a third person for match. Oh. How would that happen? Now. Let me I'm not explaining that. Well, so Mifsud the Maltese professor who starts this whole thing. Right by allegedly saying that the Russians have third on Hillary tells Papa that starts this whole thing this collusion nonsense. Right. Those interactions are documented in prosecuting in prosecutorial documents used against popadopoulos. But there's spoken about from a third person's perspective. Now, this I know it doesn't make sense to look at your face. If you went I Joe are having an interaction and. We're talking about robbing a Bank. And in the charging document. It says well, Joe Armacost initially didn't take it seriously. But then he decided to take it seriously based on the look on his face. Yeah. We'll get that information come from. If only you and I are at the table one of us. What you're looking at me. Like, I'm crazy one of us. Yeah. But I don't think it was Masud. Unless Joe they had a recording. Now, if they had a recording of it. Who the hell was Masud working for how did they get the recording? In other words, if this is a collusion operation with the Russians, and if Sudas a Russian agent how in how the heck did they get the recording? The Russians aren't going to give it to them. Joe is this making us. No, no, no. I'm with you. Yeah. I gotcha. If it was suits working for the Russians collude overthrowing election, and the charging document talks about it from a third person perspective, like a bird's eye view over there meeting. There's only two possible scenarios either popadopoulos set it Mifsud set it or there's someone recording the darn thing. Now, a great point pointed out by this perch, which I not trying to take credit for stuff. I just we we've been looking at this for a while. And his Email. It's time to get it out there. Talks about a part part of the charging document. Maybe the using the language of the charging document will make this make more sense. Here's what's written in there. Joe initially, the professors seemed uninterested in the defendant talking about popadopoulos. It then goes on to say the professor appeared to take great interest in defendant. Popadopoulos talk about later. How would they know that? Where they there. It's not as sued saying it, right? I'm that. I'm I'm confident of and that he's not cooperating. How Joe how do they know that? How do they know that was this recorded in? This was recorded. How was it recorded? Now, there's another possibility there. There seems to be some intimate knowledge of these details between the meeting between myth sued. And popadopoulos detailed knowledge, whether they were recorded. Now was it recorded by myth sued. I don't know that yet. I don't want to speculate where I don't know. But what I'm telling you is there's a bird's eye view of this. That was I don't believe past on. I don't believe was passed on by miss. Unless unless he was cooperated. I I this is killing me because I know I know a lot about it. And I think I'm not getting our if soothes a Russian agent, right? He's recording. This thing. He's not going to give the information to the Central Intelligence Agency, the United States he would implicate himself as a Russian agent. Yes. You get what I'm saying? If Joe was really gonna rob a Bank at a meeting with meetings. He's recording the conversation. He sock gonna give the recording the cops. No, no, exactly, which you can pretty much eliminate mid sued at this point being a Russian agent Alday somehow have some bird's eye view of this. It was only two explanations. It was recorded given to them by MS soot. Meaning he's not a Russian agent. He was working with them. Working with friendly's to set up Trump or there's a third party there. Now, you see where I'm going with the politico article. This. Allie Watkins seems to know an awful lot about the whole case an awful long time ago. This piece was written nine twenty seventeen. She does a piece focusing specifically on this Russian woman Olga vinegar adobo or Poland sky, or whatever you wanna call her. No one really knows her name. Joe just like Masud notice. We haven't heard it darned thing about missile gha sits. Yeah. So suspiciously. This woman who speaks with a heavy Russian accent introduces herself as Putin's niece so convenient Putin's. She's not Putin's niece, by the way. Says I have these high level Russian context just randomly shows up at a meeting between Trump advisor popadopoulos and a Maltese professor with western intelligence how perfect only Joe to never be heard from again. Now, she's in my book. But I ask you this show you follow this intensely as being a part of the show. Yeah. I tell you remember the names often if you've even heard that name before no, no, you haven't you only Russian woman. I've heard his villain. It's skyer whatever vessel in the sky. Remember that name close enough. You've haven't heard Vinit a grove of Poland sky because nobody's talking about her. Folks. Just like I said to you about sued where it's absolutely impossible to disappear the way miss did. And to avoid any no one seen miss sued since his February interview with the FBI from last year. Nobody's seen him. Nobody's seen or heard of Algo of Vinod Vinogradov, Jimmy, vigneault grit. Ova? Nobody's heard from her since. Folks, this was so obviously a setup that again, you have to intentionally blinders on at this point to believe this bag of horse because that's what it is. This is nonsense. You see what I'm wrapping this up. Joe? This was the perfect setup. Do you really think the Russians are guys? Ladies, listen. I'm no fan of a Putin or the Russians. Let me be crystal clear by this. I been intimately of what got me into politics was Reagan's fight against communism. But do you really think I spent time in Moscow is three weeks as a matter of fact, doing investigative work with the referees spe- when I was a secret service agent. These people aren't stupid. Okay. No. They are not dumb the Russians. Do you really believe? That they're going to send this Maltese professor there. Right as they're cut out. And as at and what they're going to send a woman who is Putin's niece who openly talks about her connections to the Russian government to try to set up a meeting with a low level member of the Trump team, you believe this was actually going to this is the way it's going to go down. So let me get this straight show. The Russian government has a plan to overthrow the results of the US election or influence them heavily, right? Okay. So they send in a professor from Malta with connections to western intelligence who knows you K in intelligence officials and is intimately familiar with the western intelligence apparatus. So they call in a guy connected to us who could rat on them at any moment. And they send in a woman, and she doesn't do it cryptically. She goes. Yeah. Putin's these I can set up a meeting this this sound even remotely logical to you crate, you we haven't heard that awhile play it again crate you. Crate you you must be I missed that one. I do to that. Now, I'm not crazy. This is the worst setup in human history. Oh, look, I've got this. It's Putin's niece. She's going to set up a meeting. Wow. That sounds great. All of a sudden, we don't hear from the woman ever get your telling me, nobody can locate this woman. Is it possible? Joe also that bird's eye view third party perspective talking about oh and Mifsud didn't seem interested. But then he seemed interested. It's not Mifsud say that who saying that. Folks, you have not heard the last. Now, Joe, what would you say? We're about a month ahead of the news cycle on this. Mark it down. Put it gets your notebooks out. Folks. Olga. Poland sky check it out the book Olga vigneault grid. Ova? You have not heard the last of that name. This is the worst setup in human history by a bunch of incompetent loons read the politico piece it's in there today. And remember who wrote it there's a reason that name appears in her writing? Around the time, she's dealing with a boyfriend on the Intel committee who knows the whole story. According to the Pfizer the bunk dossier and feeds it to her. There's a reason she writes that now remember she knows the whole story, according to the dossier and the Democrats because that's what appeared in the FIS application. She doesn't know the real story. She just knows what she's been told. Hence, the focus in her political piece about this, Shane rush woman. Oh, I feel vigneault over was she Russian. We sure about that. Just how Russian what's she doing? I never knew what she's doing is. She doing back there. Folks. This is going to get Harry this story. I know a lot of you think this thing's dying down. Oh, no, no, no. No, no. There's a lot more to come write that name and your name notebook more to come on that later. All right. Finally to you're not going to feel more stories to get through that a really important lot of news as we they show. Also brought to you by buddies. We the people holsters best also shout their love them. They sent me a sample little while ago, loved them so much. I said, hey, can I get a few more those bad, boys? They are great. The problem would allow these in the pants holsters and hostages is they're super uncomfortable. They're hard to adjust. Now what we do people holsters. You will never ever find a better price more, quote, high quality holster than you will be the people. 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That's just twenty four dollars with free shipping. You will not find a better product out there for the money. Love we the people. All right. A couple more stories. I had. The Democrats and the media and the media allies their messaging on this caravan caravan in addition to their messaging on this these stressful suspicious packages spree we're having here over these last few days has been absolutely horrifying watching the media covered. This TV show last night address. This caravan has been just I they're not even media anymore. Joe? It's not journalism. It's strictly a liberal narrative baiting one of their talking points on this has been and I address this yesterday as well. And I wanted to double down on it because there's been a subsequent tweet put out liberals are giving us an easy messaging opportunity, and sadly, a lot of Republicans are missing they're asking Republicans for evidence that this caravan contains in fact, criminals and gang members when the real question is how can you prove it doesn't because these are not citizens of the United States. They have no right to enter the country illegally. None. The real question. Here is not asking. Me for proof that there were gang members. It's asking you prove that, you know, they're not have you vetted all four thousand of these immigrants coming up to the country and threatening to enter illegally have you? It's a simple question. The answer is obviously no you have not. So if you haven't you can't prove to me that people entering our country and breaking the law. They have no right to do. This should be here. And that some of them granted maybe a small portion, but some of them may be dangerous making the situation even worse not to redo yesterday show. But there's been some new news on this. The DHS department of homeland security put out a tweet. Thoroughly refuting the media coverage on this which has been Donald Trump needs to prove their a gang members and criminals that Donald Trump doesn't need to prove anything. They're threatening to enter the country illegally. You have to prove that that these folks are going to enter legally number one and should be here. You have to prove that us. Here's the tweet. Joe DHS, Ken confer can not can't can see ya Ken confirm that there are individuals within the caravan who are gang members or who have serious criminal histories. That is a tweet from d h s I worked at the HSA, ladies and gentlemen, they are not politicians. They're not going to humiliate themselves in a tweet for any political agenda. DHS clearly has significant intelligence shows of that there are people in this caravan with significant criminal histories or who may be gang members. This is their tweet. They're not going to embarrass themselves on their Twitter feed telling you what the media's just making this story up. There's no evidence that there's criminals do you even read seriously? I said this yesterday someone suggested that we put it on a t-shirt shirt. Liberals. Do you even seriously? Do you even do you pay attention to even basic, facts and information, this is outrageous? The D. He put out a tweet themselves. They can confirm can not at the end can confirm that there are gang members and people with significant criminal histories within the caravan Joe there were also investigative reporters on the ground talking to people in the caravan who have already acknowledged that there were criminals and the caravan. Stop falling for this sucker argument. Republicans you need to prove that they're one. We don't have to prove it the already put out a tweet. So you already down on the information front. Sorry information one liberal media zero. But on the second front, even if that were we don't have to prove anything. They're not they're not saying they're going to enter the country legally do points. They're threatening to break the law. But there's nothing we have that in and of itself is enough to say, no, thanks. We're good. The fact that DHS has now confirming their criminals and gang members in there is just an additional piece of information which incentivize any sane rational person to say, this is crazy. This is an invasion four thousand threatening to walk across the border illegally. This is nuts. All right. Couple more things I want to get to 'cause it's important quick midterm election update. Ladies and gentlemen. We're seeing two things two things here to put a little bit of a smile on your face again. This is not incentivizing anyone to the rest on their laurels. This could be you know, what happened in these last two days in these news cycles. Troubling. And there could always be another surprise here. But it's starting to look it's not going to be a red wave. Let me be clear on this. But it's starting to look like the Blue Wave may in fact, be dead that they may may may hold the house. I think we're going to add to the Senate I told you that my prediction last week, but there's two data points. I wanna put out there. Number one early. Polling in critical. Statewide Senate races early voting early voting is up dramatically for the Republicans. They are winning big time in some of these states in early voting. Now having said that. That is not always the best indicator of what happens on election day. I know that Joe for as you know, from person hearing, it's where I won on election day a congressional seat overwhelmingly by five thousand votes. I was like this is great. I was measuring the drapes in my congressional office in Maryland district six and they were like wait hold on. We still gotta count the early voting and the absentee and I got crushed. I wound up losing the race by by a sliver by one point because he made up all five thousand of those votes, and then some so it is not in other words the early voting if I would have just went by the early voting I should've lost that race by thirty points. I lost by one one point. That's it. So early voting is on always the best indicator. So get out take ten friends. But secondly. Some of the polling if you listen to the shows I did earlier in the week about how we're really having trouble. Folks, we're having trouble in these suburban districts some of the areas dominated by minority voters who would vote for Hillary. Whether it's Florida twenty-seven or Texas Twenty-three where we should be getting crushed. According to liberal media narrative, always by voters, don't like Trump. It's actually not happening. We'll heard and the virus Salazar race in Florida dominated by Hispanic voters in southern Florida and in the border in Texas. The Republicans are doing quite well in those polls where we're having real problems is in the suburban districts one of them. I've been using bellwether district is the Barbara Comstock race right outside of DC and the Virginia suburbs. I think it's Virginia. Ten forgive me. If I appreciate Virginia ten. Barbara Comstock who I've interviewed before when I used to host radio terrestrial radio. Barbara Comstock was was getting. Just crushed in the polls. She was not doing. She's the incumbent Republican Barbara Comstock has closed the gap significantly. Some polls have are running neck and neck with her democrat opponent in one of those suburban districts, so again is this a bellwether? I think so, but I think between chaos the caravans and cavenaugh. The two season the one K, I think the Democrats have created a really really untenable situation for themselves. And I think even in suburban districts a lot of moderate, Republican, moderate, democrat, female soccer. Mom voters are starting to say, you know, what this chaos thing is in for me. We'll see we'll see. I my prediction stays. I think we hold the house by two to four seats. I think we pick up two to three seats in the Senate. But those two factors early voting. We're doing very well. And that Comstock race, which I believe is indicative of this suburban problem we've been having lately is starting to close into and calm. Comstock starting to pick up some more numbers in the polls get out and vote, ladies and gentlemen. Like, I said, I get the beef with early voting. I understand it. I think seven month long early morning or early voting obviously hyperbolic is ridiculous. But this is not the time for that fight something God forbid can happen to you. You could get in a car accident that they have voting again. We don't we God forbid, but you need to get out and early vote put your numbers in early get that thing on the record, please. I did I already voted my wife, and I both in Florida, please do it. Okay. See? He won cautionary tale here on this. And I want to get to a fair share argument to fair share fair share your liberal, the rich are not paying their fair. Share? I have a really good article up at zero hedge today, the show notes showing just a very simple graph. How absurd outrageous the liberals fair share argument is that you know, the wealthy aren't paying their fair share. But before I get that just one note on the stock market. That's been very volatile. It's been up and down low six hundred points yesterday, folks. Take it easy on every, you know, the liberals want to instill a sense of panic before the election with the stock market. They love the highlight these stories oh, the stock market economies. All Radic, folks. This is natural. There was always going to be a correction in the stock market. There may be an even bigger correction. Don't forget for for the eight years of. Fed policy. Where we printed a bunch of monopoly money and drove interest rates low people were they call it, the, you know, the search for yield, you know, seeking out right? You have to search for yield on your money yield a return if I have money sitting in a Bank account. I want an interest rate I wanna make money on it making money on money that search for yield was impossible when we print that a lot of money because we the federal government drove interest rates into the ground and the economy was slow meeting. There wasn't a lot of demand for money. So people couldn't charge a lot of yield. If you can't get three four five percent for your money. You have to search for yield somewhere else. What were people doing Joe pouring money inequities in the stock market interest rates are now going up? We're seeing it in the mortgage market. We're seeing it would fed policy. People are have safer choices now where they can get some return on their money. You were always going to see some of that money. Come back out of equities and into fixed fixed investments like bonds real estate and other things where they can get some kind of a fixed return of what they believed to be affixed return over time. Bottom line is don't panic this. These are natural cyclical. I wish they weren't. I wish we weren't printing. Money creating these cycles, but don't panic everybody stand. I'm not telling you what to do at your money. You want to pull them out of equities, do whatever I'm not a financial adviser. I'm simply telling you on the economy. It's okay. And if we can get a hold of our debt situation our government spending situation, I think we'll be in a lot better shape. Okay. Here's my final story. And this is what I was getting through the zero hedge piece there's a terrific graph at the top and the data's from twenty four teens. He may say, it's old wealth. The reason it's old is it's the last year from the that we have the entire data set to look at. But on these on this fair share argument. There's this fascinating chart show. It breaks down income categories into into into quintiles. Right. You know, the upper wealthy twenty percent. The lowest twenty percent and tells five. Similar categories of income. These are fascinating numbers for all. You liberals out there. Arguing that wealthy. People. Don't pay their fair share. The highest earners in the country. Joe, and this is a measure of how much they received in transfers versus how much they paid in federal taxes. Very simply how much people gave to the government and how much they got back, please. Stop emailing. My gosh, my Email is going wild this way. I'm not talking to you. Sorry this group. They're emailing me. It's driving me nuts. That's like the fiftieth Email if got it in the middle of the show, it keeps blocking my screen. The highest thing earners paid seventy five thousand one hundred dollars in federal income tax and got back Joe in the form of government transfers eleven thousand seven hundred. Difference pant Fash out. Really that seems like a big difference to me the second number down so wealthy folks. But not as wealthy, obviously. It's the top group. The second twenty percent down from the top paid eighteen thousand six hundred taxes got fourteen thousand back in transfers. Now, the middle the second and the lowest quintile here of earners. Is where it gets interesting. The middle paid nine thousand six hundred taxes and got back fifteen thousand four hundred dollars nine thousand we haven't used Jay's Abacus in a while nine thousand six hundred dollars in tax payments, and they got back fifteen thousand four hundred. So you got the wealthy paying seventy five thousand getting back eleven thousand and you got people who are middle income paying nine thousand six hundred getting back fifteen thousand your fair share. Aren't you understand your nonsense? Your immune to Faxon data. It gets even better. The second lowest to the bottom paid in three thousand eight hundred dollars in taxes got seventeen thousand seven hundred dollars back in transfers, and the poorest individuals folks up is trying to tell you fair share argument is total garbage the port this is where they paid four hundred dollars in federal income taxes got sixteen thousand six hundred dollars black aback, excuse me. Folks. Hard pass on the nonsense fair share argument. Please Faxon data matter read the piece look at the chart printed. Give it to you liberal, friends and say how much more the fair share should be exactly because we're already paying all of it. Thank you Evan ice day. All right, folks. 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Ep. 915 Another Disastrous Day for the Democrats

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Ep. 915 Another Disastrous Day for the Democrats

"The. Get ready to hear the truth about America on a show. That's not immune to the facts with your host. Dan bongino. Dan Bongino, shell producer, Joe. How are you today? Could be better. But I'm doing pretty good, Dan. I'm doing good. Yeah. Joe's not doing good. He had a rough. It said it last night. Someone close to him something bad happen. So we're going going to give Joe kind of a pass today on the show. But he's here for you, folks. You know, I'm a at out of respect for Joe's privacy. I obviously I'm not going to divulge any further details, but he had a rough night last night. That's his commitment to the audience is a good one. Joe is here yet ready to rock and roll saw Joe yesterday, another huge news and other than collusion hoax, which we've only been telling you is a hoax for the last year and a half now or in Dan Bongino, it's like dog years, their six months, everything six months and Dan Bongino, terms. It's collapsing minute by minute. Second by second the Senate Intel committee elite came out yesterday from NBC news suggesting that the Senate Intel committee has come up with nothing. No evidence of this collusion hoax. We've been warning you. So I want to go into a little bit of detail on this. And not just that thing. Listen, we all know that Russian collusion fairy tale was a hoax, but I want to give you a little bit more of a layered analysis about why this is such a problem now for the Democrats outside of the simple fact, Joe that it makes them look like the complete buffoons conspiracy, theorists and looney tunes at they really are. He right. I got that a lot more to get to including the budget deal and cocaine Mitch strikes again with with the green new deal. So we'll get to that in a minute. All right. Today's show brought to you by Boll and branch bowl. That's B O L L B O L L. These are the finest sheets out there Paulin, I have hours. What is it worth to you to sleep deeply for? 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Richard Burr from the Senate Intel committee, the Republican is come out. He has not been a big pro-trump guy. Even though he is a Republican bird has been very milk toast on this entire thing is now come out in acknowledged they have found no quote direct evidence of collusion conspiracy between Trump and the Russians again, not news to any of us. There is never going to be evidence. Because you can't fabricate evidence about a conspiracy that never happened. Now, why is this? So damaging. I have some analysis up at Bongino dot com. But I also have a piece in the show notes as well today from Byron York at the Washington Examiner who always seems to provide cogent topical timely analysis on these issues he's been following this case for a long time. And listen York is a very down the middle guy. He doesn't play the partisan games. I want to read to you quickly from from his piece in the examiner. Because it describes the problem. The twofold problem, the Democrats are going to have they were all melting down on Twitter yesterday that lunatic Seth Abramson who claims to be some kind of expert on a topic. He wrote some kind of fiction book about the collusion fairytale. This guy was melting down yesterday on Twitter. It was great to watch because they've invested their entire lives any collusion. Fairytale that now before their very is is being entirely dismantled their professional credibility there. Academe credibility their credibility amongst their peers is all collapsing. These media types, the Democrats and the looney. Tunes who tried to gaslight you into believing a fake story like this collusion hoax. Actually, happened are now suffering brutally as this thing is eviscerated evaporates and entirely debunked in dismantle before your very eyes. If you invested time in this show, you are now being vindicated. If you invested your time in the New York Times, the Washington Post and lunatics like Seth Abramson, you are now thoroughly and completely humiliated. You've been in barest it's horrifying how you've wasted your life. Do you look in the mirror and realize what you've done that you have spent two years of your life foaming at the mouth like a rabid dog or as ambi- from twenty eight days later over something that is a hoax. It is a complete lie. You have no one to back you up anymore. You've never had evidence. You don't have evidence. Now, you don't have the house the house committee debunked. This thing the Senate committees the bunk. This thing Muller has yet to prove a scintilla of evidence outside. Of process crimes and taxicab confessions that any of this existed at all you have wasted your life. You have wasted two years of your life. This reminds me of the scene from rocky to when he's trying to do the job. Remember rocky to view seen that one? Remember when Rocky's doing the commercials where he sent meals mainly and rocky has trouble reading and directors are real jerk in a rocky can't read the cue cards because he has trouble reading and she says, it's makes you smell manly. And rocky says it makes you Smeal mainly and the director, can you read rock and the directors like we have wasted our time you have wasted the staff's time you have wasted that cruise time. Please get off the set. Ladies get out of the cage with rocky is an occasion to juggle up. You ever this is this is I sadly right now, I'm taking the role the director, even though he's the rocky. You are in the cage like rocky you have wasted. Everybody's time for. For two years. You have smelled mainly you've Smeal. You've not smelled Manley. You've smelled mainly for two years. You've been eviscerated humiliated. Embarrassed, you become a national laughing stock set Abramson claims to be an academic. He has been entirely discredited. The media lunatics who invested in this the Democrats, Adam sleazy, shifty shifts completely humiliated. Eric swale well complete losers. They will have no credibility history will smell mainly to them. You're not very bright. You. Completely laughing that these utter morons. Who invested their lives in this hoax for two years? I'm sorry. But I needed to vent a little bit. Really? I mean, I just I for two years. Now, we've been warning you that this is a hoax. And yet these people just cannot give it up getting back to the York piece here. Quote from the Washington Examiner even more concerning. Some Democrats is that the news from Bir Richard Burr came on the heels of stories to the effect that Trump Russian special counsel. Bob Muller might not even charge Trump associates with conspiracy and might not even allege that the much discussed Trump Russia conspiracy even occurred say what? Really many House Democrat. Yes, Joe, many has Democrats have been relying on Muller to give them a roadmap and cover to initiate impeachment proceedings against the president. Now, they face the question of what to do. If Muller does not give them what they want. Ladies and gentlemen, I told you about this a long long time ago. There was never going to be a collusion conspiracy laid out in evidently, traditional honest, fashion because you can't fabricate a conspiracy that didn't happen. So what the Democrats were hoping and praying for was enough circumstantial evidence of guilt that they could put together a circumstantial ADA ac- case, which Muller would lay out in a report that would indicate somehow by inference that Trump colluded with the Russians. It's now becoming apparent that? Nobody is even uncovered any circumstantial evid-. Silence at this has happened and all of the circumstantial evidence that collusion happened Joe points to what the Democrats not the Trump team. Oh, now, they're terrified. Yes. That Muller himself is going to debunk this in his own report. Not issue a report or leave the conspiracy part out of it. Because there is none. They will then have no pathway to impeachment at all other than hysterics. Now. Joe again, rance are great. I love them but outside of the rant. Why is this damaging? Because Joe this is what they've promised their base. Thank you. He's they have promised donors activists volunteers people working on their presidential campaigns people working on their re elect campaigns money people lobbying interests that are on the far left. They have promised these people a good a service item. That service item is an impeachment process for Trump. But folks, they're afraid now they're going to be entirely humiliated because that articles of impeachment. They were relying on Muller to lay that out for them to lay out the charges. Joe Wright impeachment is not a criminal process. Ladies and gentlemen. Let's clear on this. It is a political process. Yes, it requires votes from politicians that act on an impeachment motion in the house and a trial in the Senate overseen by the chief Justice supreme court, but it is not a criminal charge. It is a political charge to remove the president from office who can then be charged when he's removed from office. The president can't be indicted. According to the department of Justice's own guidelines now he has to be impeached. I, but this is a political procedure. This political procedure involves inherently politics politics at some point is going to require you to. Produce some evidence of an actual case, which they were relying on Bob Muller to produce. That is now completely entirely collapsing. What's frustrating? The Dem's even more. Is that I think they thought people like Richard Burr, who's not the most die-hard conservative. You know, what I mean a Republican on the Senate Intel committee we're going to play ball with them. And now even Burs had to quietly acknowledged that this case is not exist. Folks, they are in a world of trouble. So let's put the lead back at the top of the story. The Democrats are going to have to at this point break, a core promise to the constituency that is giving the money volunteering time, and it's going to support their presidential campaigns and elsewhere that key promises they were gonna impeach Trump that they had the goods Adam shifty sleazeball shift has been on TV multiple times promising they had the evidence they had the evidence. It's there we just can't reveal it yet. They don't have the evidence they have nothing. They have been debunked repeatedly. This story is entirely discredited its viscera it's over. It's over. They are going to have to groveling heads in their hands. They're going to have to go back to their base and admit they lied the whole time. Let's see if the media holes into account. All right, folks before I move onto the next door. Just want to acknowledge a fallen hero last night. New York City detective, Brian Simonson. He was shot and killed last night in a friendly fire incident responding to a robbery and one hundred second precinct in New York. We got the word last night from a friend. And then we saw it on the news afterwards, a friend of mine who still with the. APD? I wasn't NYPD police officer with this guy. I got the notification from promote I thought maybe him because he's a detective to and just I just like kind of freaked out. So I sent them by a really kind of. I mean in an intended to be nasty, but almost a nasty texts back because he said to him it's time it's time for he's been on the job for so long. And it's time for him to retire, and my wife, and I kind of freaked out a little bit his name, Brian. We're like is this we thought for a second. Like is this 'em like this? But it it just that this guy Simonsen, I just wanna to tell you quickly about what he did. Because this is the heroic actions are police officers said detectives, and our men and women in blue take every day. He was at a precinct apparently one zero two precinct for some kind of an administrative. Meaning he wasn't even required to stay the entire day for work. But he did anyway, and he still responded to this robbery and the t mobile store and now he's dead. He has two kids. He has a family, and this is the kind of. Stuff that happens all too often in our country with our police officers work in for almost no money, very little prestige outside of the us and the people in this audience, deeply respect. There's no public accolades from these guys don't get parades every day now, he's dead. God rest his soul. God bless his family with the strength. They need to get through this unbelievably horrible time. And I want to recognize the -tective Simonsen for your heroin actions. It sits men and women like you. You're the best of us tragic story, but. Needed to get that out there. You know, not everybody gets this kind of they don't get the public recognition. They need our public servants always tough to segue from a story like that. But we have some other stuff to get to the budget deal. This is the big news of the day. Yesterday was a very big news day the budget potential budget deal. I should say it hasn't been signed yet. It may be by the time. This airs the potential budget deal was a big story along with the collusion. Hoax being dismantled yesterday. Ladies and gentlemen. I wanna give you the good and the bad. And of course, because I know it to you you invest time in me. And I invest time in you. And I always appreciate that. I want to give you my opinion on on what we're looking at. So just to give you a little quick background in February fifteenth. This Friday is a deadline where the government would shut down partially again, if a budget deal isn't reached there was a temporary CR sign a couple of weeks ago, which reopened the government. I want to give you some some some. Kind of top line. Ideas about what's going on right now. And I'm going to try to be as a try this and everybody's biased. But I really trying to give you the most objective analysis of this. I can let me just start out with the what the deal is Joe. The deal is going to be roughly one point three seven five billion dollars for a border fence the steel slats design, which President Trump is proposed. It's also include no caps on the detention beds. In other words, no caps on our ability to detain illegal immigrants in the country, which the Democrats had thrown in the deal, a wrench in the deal to kind of screw it up at the last minute. The Democrats pulled back on that. So the Democrats and pull back on one of their demands. And Trump obviously is going to pull back and one of his demands which Joe was for five point seven billion. This is for one point three seven five billion now that one point three seven five billion Joe is going to cover fifty five miles of new border fencing, which will do a good job, but they need two hundred thirty miles. So clearly both sides had to give here. So just to be clear five miles a new fencing. At a cost of one point three billion three seven five billion. No caps on the detention beds. Now. This is not a good deal. We have to be candid, and I it to you to tell you that. And by the way, President Trump has said the same thing. So it's not that this is any kind of an incongruent message with what President Trump is getting out there. It's not a good deal. He's already said as much in the cabinet room yesterday during a televised QNA he did with the press. He's not happy with the deal. But folks at this point, I asked you what option does he have? I'm not someone sent me an Email yesterday. You know, I enjoy your feedback. Good and bad. I do I read it, and it I I do not pretend that any kind of a thick skin. And I'm glad I don't fix skin means. None of your feedback batters to me it done and someone said how are you going to cover for Trump on it? What do you mean cover for Trump's not covering for himself? What are you talking about Trump came out yesterday to cabinet who said this is not a good deal of which I'm echoing? This is not a good deal. I hate the full stop stuff, but period, full stop what part of that. He does that they could cover. It's not a good deal. There's excessive spending we wanted five point seven billion. We're not gonna get him. But let me give you a little bit of a deeper analysis. Other than a haywire you covering for. I'm not covering for anyone have I ever covered for anyone. I'm pretty confident President Trump respects me the show and our analysis because we don't attempt to cover for anybody. Right. Right. He doesn't like yes-men. He's constantly celebrate in the commentary of people like Andy McCarthy and others who disagree with them. All the time. It's not a good deal. He said as much, but I'm asking you this rape, practical down to earth perspective. What do you want him to do? Now, the options are not to sign the deal. The problem folks is the Democrats and Nancy Pelosi currently own dominate the house of representatives. They are in the majority. There are simply not enough Republican votes. Now, you may say, okay, Dan. But last time you argue that he shouldn't sign that deal either. Yes. And we won that. Now, you're probably like wait now. I'm all confused. So you argued that he shouldn't sign a I deal. Yes. Because the first deal brought to him was clearly clearly a slap in his face. What does he do? He refuses to sign it. We have this three week government shutdown the longest in US history. And we one come on your cover it up. Really, am I? I encourage you to go to my Twitter feed and look at a petard article from Washington secrets I covered today. It's really good. I'll remember I'll put that in the show notes today, showing quick note to your show notes, Dr President Trump's approval rating the highest it's ever been and not only that Joe it's the biggest shift he seen during his presidency. In other words is highest gain. Right. And it is now double that of congress. Tell me get everybody. Pause because seriously, I love my audience the death. And I love your feedback and ninety nine percent of it is really positive, but sometimes I get negative feedback from that's fine. But I'm asking you to take breath put the show on pause for a second and analyze what I just said he had to shut it down the first time because he had to take a stand to show what he was for. And what the Democrats were against he was for border security and this amount of money. He needed the democrat. That's went on the record. And said we have the votes we will never vote for that. And you're never gonna get it. While we're in charge now a fool does the same thing twice. He doesn't have the votes. Now, he's got them on the record there at twenty one percent approval while he's at forty four plus depending on what poll you look at. He said the biggest shift and his presidency and approval from thirty seven percent to forty four percent. And he's got the Democrats now on the record opposing the two hundred and thirty miles support security, we need please explain to me again, how we lost sounds like he's building up that political capital dano that we've spoken about Joe for now. Five years, we've been doing this show. Right. Ladies and gentlemen, politics is full of grey areas. Like ethics. It's not always black and white. It involves a political Bank account you make the posits in and you withdraw from that is did forget power elected office means squat as Ralph north and Justin. Fairfax are finding out now in Virginia. They have no. Political capital do anything. They're trying to simply stay alive in office your political Bank account where you make deposits approval ratings legislative successes could be our good sound bites and political withdrawals. Bad soundbites horrible, public approval ratings bad sound bites bad media. I said that twice those are political withdraws where your Bank account diminishes Trump's political Bank account is going up and Congress's is going down. What do you want him to do? Now. He's got them on the record. He doesn't have the votes. There's no votes. He didn't have the votes before. But it was enormous political success getting the Democrats on the record about what they are against please. Tell me this make sense, folks. I don't know if it's because I you know. Maybe I don't know. I've run a couple you kind of you look at it to a different lens Johann haven't said this in a while. But you're familiar with the there's an all that it just says, there's two kinds of people in the world that view things differently than everybody else, the super rich and the super political and it's true. The super-rich money means nothing to me because it does it's not an exchange of value because everything they value they have. So they don't, you know. There's nothing to really value on a dodge. Viper. You just send your buddy to go out by your credit card, and the super political if you everything from a different lens, I'll be candid, that's me. I'm a very political guy. I love politics. I've loved it since I'm a kid. I've been deeply embedded in it. I've run for office. I comment on it. I'm an activist at heart. I still give speeches. I do commentary on cable and FOX about it. I view this stuff differently. This is not a loss. This is the best. We're going to do right now while still doing significant damage to the Democrats public approval getting them on the record for an untenable position in twenty twenty. They wouldn't even secure the two hundred thirty miles a border. I rode experts said we needed while making the congressional representatives after a shutdown look like complete idiots for having to come back in cave on a border patrol on a border security measure that Nancy Pelosi Joe, quote, said not one dollar. Really because I just told you that deals one point three seven five billion dollars. So Nancy Pelosi was off by a factor of one point three seven five billion. How did we lose this? Folks, the analysis has to go deeper than this surface level patina here, scratch the patina go deeper. I'm not again, I'm not trying to get into. You know, any kind of four dimensional chess. Some of this may have just been the result of fortuitous circumstances by Trump. I don't know. I can't get in his head. But suggesting this somehow a loss, it's a it's not a loss. It's a bad deal. He's on the record saying that I just told you that on my own show. It's the only deal. It's the only deal right now. It gets them on the record their approval rating is in the tank, let's build what we can build now and other notes on this. Mick Mulvaney, went on Chris Wallace is show on Fox News Sunday, the acting chief of staff or Trump jell men Mulvaney said they found nine hundred million dollars in funds. They can move around to allocate to the wall. So now we're up to roughly two point two plus billion again, it's not the five point seven billion. I'm acknowledging that that part did not succeed. But forget that just forget that that data point for a second. And let's get to the bigger picture. So now, we're halfway there with this nine hundred million. But keep in mind, ladies and gentlemen, we do not have the votes right now. There simply are not enough votes to get past everything we need. Even a president Joe. And I and I know many of you had have enormous respect for God rest his soul. Ronald Ronald Reagan, of course, greatest president in my lifetime. And a gifted politician and dealmaker himself said if we can get eighty percent, we take eighty percent we'll come back for the other twenty later. Folks, we have to take what we can take right now. It's a bad deal. But it is the only deal. Now. I want to address something you know, what let me get this. I'm going to read this spot quick. By a great company. I wanna get to another angle. Some of you may have caught last night on Fox News. This is superb analysis hat tip. Mark thesis in who who's a Republican writes for the Washington Post. Feast in has a spectacular way to come out of this in the long game. That's gonna put Nancy Pelosi seriously in a bad awful position on a get to that. In a second read. Do this quick read here? 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And listen, it's very rare that I hear commentary where I have to perk up because you know, a lot of the commentaries good. But sometimes I do a lot of homework, and I don't like beat to the punch sequester, and the this idea of leveraging this question was one of those. So those ideas so good I turned up that I had to take notes so thesis has a piece in the Washington Post, and he suggests this show. The budget control act signed under the Barack Obama administration in two thousand eleven imposes automatic spending caps automatic. Meaning they will happen if congress doesn't act automatic spending caps on on government spending. You remember that the sequester most remembered as early as I should I'm that's what I'm trying to think of right now. I'm trying to remember it. Well, the just that the specifics of it Obama was under incredible pressure. Given the debt ceiling to do something about the debt situation. He had created through the nine trillion in debt he accumulated during his presidency. So what they came out with was his budget control act, which would cut defense spending, which was supposed to be a jab at the Republicans and mastic spending at somewhat similar rates. If congress did not do something about the debt and deficit the budget control act was passed. It was proposed what they would call sequester or putting caps on spend. Ending now, the Republicans in the house, and the Democrats the swamp committee over there on both sides what they decided to do Joe was to bump up the caps. In other words, let's not cap spending for two years. Now that they did it again those caps, and I did it again. And again and those enhance or going to the the bumps on the caps are going to expire in December. Meaning. Cap spending is going to happen. Even if they do nothing, right. So thesis analysis was terrific. His suggestion is role with this. Now, take what we can get now. Joe take this one point three seven five and the no caps on on detention beds. Right. Okay. It's the best deal with you. The only thing there's going to be votes for right now take we can take the money build those fifty five miles of the wall. Get the nine hundred million dollars. You can get do what you can to build the rest of the two hundred thirty mile mall of a wall, and refurbish what we have. And then in December this December when those budget caps and those spending caps reappear, right? President Trump should enforce those caps say he's not going to sign anything else. Joe? And what would we get? We would get out of that. Seventy-one building seventy one billion in cuts on the defense side, which listen we would have to make do with. But we would get fifty five billion in domestic spending cuts as well. Get seasons point here. These point is it's a good one. We don't have the leverage. Now, we have one this short term game here. Trump's approval ratings are up the shutdowns got the Democrats on the record and a politically untenable situation there now against border security and therefore government chaos because they seem to be enjoying this government shutdown. Trump's approval is up. We are now winning this race. This race matters. The best deal. We're going to get now to avoid another shutdown is this deal take this deal and let the Democrats know and let everybody know that you are not going to sign a deal that would surpass those budget caps in December. So the Democrats again are going to have to eat crow because for their savings Joe of five point seven billion on Boorda while they could have given Trump. They're going to lose fifty five billion in domestic initiatives who let them go explain that to their constituents. Do you understand the crow they're going to have to eat on this? It was very very good. Very well done piece. So just the attrac- and where I'm going. If they do nothing in congress spending will be cut automatically. They will have to bump up the spending caps and Trump should say, I'm not signing it. He has leverage. Yeah. Yeah. Very slick very slick, and I said, I'm I'm only angry at Mark. Because I didn't think of it. I it was brilliant point. Good point. Okay. Cocaine Mitch at it again. It's not my nickname. It was Don Blankenship Senate candidate West Virginia, and like Mitch McConnell he'd nicknamed him cocaine. Mitch and listen, I'm not a huge McConnell fan. That's not a big secret. Sometimes he does things for the conservative movement. That are not very good and do net damage, but when McConnell does something right. It doesn't do us any good to engage in Republican in a Republican on Republican circular firing squad. So what happened yesterday with McConnell, and we say about that nickname cocaine. Mitch never has nickname backfired in the history of politics like that one because it was right after that that he pushed through Cavanaugh and got gore sick approved. And it just made them look like some kind of rebel when I think we all know, that's not McConnell's reputation, but McConnell, what did he do? Yesterday goes out on Capitol Hill gets in front of the microphones and gives just a really kind of funny. I should have gotten the same on me for not giving you the soundness morning Joe. I should've pulled this. Because the way he says, it's hysterical. But Connell comes out in front of my HR. He's like so there's been a lot of attention on this green new deal. And I think it loo- excuse me to accommodate Democrats. We're going to put a vote on the floor about this green new deal. Ladies and gentlemen. This is just terrific. This is a great idea. But there it is a follow up at article their wash that he's avenue. Here's McConnell's at this is brilliant chess movie. A why listen everybody knows the green new deal is a cataclysmic political disaster for the Democrats. It has been an embarrassment. I've addressed it over the past few days how they put out a series of FAQ's on exa- Alexandria case. Yo Cortez's own website. I put the link to the cash version the choose were absurd. They addressed paying people unwilling to work flatulent gase cows how they could control gas emissions from Cal. It would the document was a complete absurdity. They had a lie about it, including a professor one on Tucker Carlson show and lie that it was in fact, their document when it was he said it was some Republican hoax. It is been a humiliating slap in the face for the Democrats who are now being forced many of the reasonable ones who are in swinging district to run from this thing. Now the Senate candidates for president. On the democrat side, comma, Harris, Elizabeth Warren, Cory Booker, Amy klobuchar Bernie Sanders Sherrod Brown. Gillibrand some of them haven't announced, but will they will run for president. Some of them have openly come out and supported this thing. But now they're going to go on the record with an actual vote. And they're going to be forced because McConnell's put them in a corner to vote on this the Bockel folks voting on this the Bockel, although I just told you political capital is not related all the time to the position votes, actually matter because once you go on the record, it starts to frighten who Joe it starts to frighten, the lobbyists and other people who lobby the government and donate to political campaigns. And otherwise, do you think people in the airline industry, the farm industry, the beef industry the automobile industry, how do you think they're gonna take to a bunch of presidential candidates Booker klobuchar Sanders Harrison others going on the record voting in the affirmative for a Bill that effectively wipes out their entire industries? The capital they've invested the jobs, they produce and the efficiencies they produce in our economy. How damaging on a scale of one to ten is that going to be? I would reckon it'll be about a seven point five. Yeah. You're there this this is going to be disastrous and good for McConnell for taking a step forward. And engaging in this in this political gamesmanship with them and getting them on the record. They're gonna have nowhere to go dig about it, folks. Right. A lot of you have seen most of you have seen political commercials your bartered with them, and you will be soon coming up for twenty twenty. Can you imagine what this is going to look like when Kamla Harrison others who have to vote on this thing? Now, keep in mind. What's the position the quandary therein in right now? Joe again, let's scratch past the patina and get to the deeper analysis. It's one thing for them to go on the record publicly to appease their donors volunteers and say, yeah, yeah. This thing is nice. And I support it Koba charts been a little more hesitant. What does that do? Joe? It keeps the money flow in the volunteers. Happy comma, Harris said, it's great. It's an entirely different thing to take a vote now getting back to where I was going with this you see those campaign commercials. How many times have you seen fact check articles and other things appear in the corner of a political ad that shows someone voting yes or no for a disastrous piece of legislation. Do all the time. Never forget being up in Maryland Jones, Andy Harris, he's a Republican congressman he has a pretty good job up there and anti Harris had voted for the fair tax, which is a really great piece of legislation by the way in the fair tax is a national sales tax now the national not to get off topic here, but the national sales tax is in lieu of the income tax. But of course, they didn't put that in the attack. Right. So they put me attack edge. So I'll never forget this ad because it was powerful. Even it was a lie. It said Andy Harris is voting for a national sales tax look at how he voted. It said, you know, HR number. The harris. Yes, like Yay. Right. That was a powerful Ed so much. So I remember it to this day. Even though the ally Andy Harris was voting for a national sales tax. He was voting for it in lieu of income tax, which is far more efficient way to tax. He's a conservative Republican. Can you imagine Joe? Can you imagine the attack is for Harris Sanders, Warren and others when they're going to have to take a yes? Vote on this. Now, you may say, well, they could just vote. No, how are they going to vote? No, they're all under record already making public statements at they supported this thing. So your choices are this. Appeal to your primary voters and win the democrat nomination by going on the record in voting for this disaster. And then getting annihilated in the general election with attack is that will never stop showing you voted to eliminate gase cows air travel and cars. Or come out publicly, which they already did say you support this an invoke. No. And look like Joe a total hypocrite while also forfeiting away those donor dollars. Volunteer time for people who were expecting you to support this thing. What the heck is that? That was where do you find this is I didn't even it sounded like a rapid Dogar, son? I have no idea. Joe always take it over complete control of the audio production soundbites portions of the show, I have no idea where he gets a lot of this stuff. That was good now. Another factor. So just to sum up where we were. We'll move on. Yes, sir. Taking this vote is going to get Democrats running for president on the record where they are in the screen new deal. They are going to have to vote. Yes. Because they've already come out supported it. They didn't think McConnell was going to put it on the floor. Now that he's put it on the floor for a vote. They have no choice other than open themselves up to general election attack ads by showing their voting record on the most disastrous economic Bill in modern US history outside of ObamaCare, the green new deal, again, not a huge fan of Mitch. But this was a strong strong move and one one more thing on this, folks. This is going to turn a lot of the swamp rat inside baseball Democrats against a okay, CEO Cortez who are now going to be angry at her and Ed Markey. The Massachusetts Senator for putting this thing out there, and forcing them all on record. Yes, sir. Even Howard Schultz, the independent candidate former CEO a Starbucks who said he's going to run for president has called degree new deal. Not realistic. I told you folks, this thing is going to be a complete disaster. Okay. Moving on. I got a couple more stories. I wanna get you. I have an article from the hill in the show notes today. I'd like you to check out. It's a really good one. Pooping my point again that these low tax states are are attracting like a magnet people to them while high tax states are suffering. Now, listen, this is an argument me living in Florida and Joe who still up in Maryland where I used to live. It's where I met you. It's an argument brought up before it's not a complicated. One. Everybody knows people are leaving for Texas and Florida to escape the high tax bad business environments and a lot of these states, but ladies and gentlemen, the data the hill is not a right wing rib website by any stretch. But the piece is interesting because it doesn't only talk about a gross numbers of people. In other words, the actual numbers of people leaving it talks about percentage change in population to and the name is conclusive. So who are the losers while the losers are New York and California again, California people are leaving in droves? Now the net population of California's not decreasing because the illegal population of California is moving up, and obviously they do manage to attract some people back in. But large numbers of people have been fleeing California and New York who are the winners, Texas and Florida are leading the way in the gross number of people headed in. But Joe importantly leading the way in percentage population change, not just the actual numbers of people. Idaho, Utah and our Zona again, three states largely dominated by Republican conservative politicians. And also business friendly state now, none of this is a mystery, folks. The mystery I want to bring up the show is why to some of the people who leave New York and California, then go to these states understanding many of them are leaving for the poor economic conditions high taxes, and then vote for the same thing when they get down to states like Texas and Florida where I live. I'm just humbly asking the liberals that listen to the show. I know you're out there. I read your emails, I see your commentary on Twitter. I know you're angry and everything, but I'm asking you just say commonsense question if you are fleeing a series of policies, you've deemed devastating enough that you have to pick up your home, your kids and your family and moved to another state to escape them. Why do you then go to that state and try to vote in some of the same nonsense? Why you don't only see that state state show? And you see it interested as well. I'll give you an example from the state Joe lives in when I ran in Maryland in western Maryland, Montgomery County is one of the most liberal counties in Maryland. It's a DC suburb packed with government workers and a lot of liberals. Montgomery County abuts Frederick county to the north Frederick county used to be a blood red conservative county. Frederick county is now changing southern Frederick county, which is up against the Montgomery County line is now largely Democrats why. Because even within the state people were fleeing Montgomery County up into a redder Republican Frederick county. And then we're voting in some of the same things they tried to escape in Montgomery County. Why are you doing this? This is not even commonsense. On your part. It's common sense on our part. We know what are you? Doing sounds like insanity to me. It's like the definition of insanity. Doing the same stupid things expecting a different result ES, sir. Please stop we. We there's multiple reasons I'm down here in Florida. But I'm not gonna lie to you lack of a state income tax is pretty darn good. I got a raise right away because we worked from home. Man, california. Even California's acknowledging you see the story yesterday, California, high speed rail, the new governor of California Gavin Newsom a far left progressive liberal how to pull the plug on their high speed rail project. This is the same high speed rail Alexandria case Cortez wants to put across the entire United States. Ladies and gentlemen. They couldn't even make high speed rail work between San Francisco and LA in far left, California between two population centers. You wanna make this crisscross the entire United States? You're escaping California because of stupidity like this stopped voting the stupid and elsewhere. Okay. Couple last things. I want to get you a funny story out there about a funny and kind of tragic at the same time funny because they're such snowflakes, but tragic because it's ironic that the media seemed to miss the irony of their own story. So you may have heard the story Joe Bloomingdale's had a shirt on their rack a t-shirt. Yeah. It was a yellow t shirt that read across the front fake news. So apparently, some reporter walking through a Bloomingdale saw this and was deeply offended. I mean, that's the funny part that there's such snowflakes. I've argued repeatedly that the reason I always stay semi optimistic about the future of the country and the conservative movement and good Republicans out. There is Joe we're hard. We're we're hard people we've developed, you know, calluses over the years from constantly constantly being being called the worst of humanity. And having a debate on remember, Democrats and liberals don't debate on ideas. They debate on emotion will host cares. A right. Okay. That's great. That sounds terrific. Healthcare's a right, but a right creates an obligation for someone else. That's what a right is. So if you're going to declare healthcare right that creates an obligation on a doctor nursing administrator in a hospital to provide you a service for free to work for you for nothing. Whether you want to pay for it or not seeing it's us engaging in substance while liberals have engaged in emotion over the years, which have made us hard. I know I said the beginning to show I have a thin skinned to criticism. And I do which is good. But I'm hard on the facts and debates side, I have to do my homework. I'm on FOX constantly debating, the liberals the best they have they throw at us on cable news, I have to be prepared. And so two you. That's many many of you listen to the show. So the snowflake crowd, which is deeply offended by this fake news shirt. They're not the future. They don't have any ability to engage in any kind of substantive back and forth. And I think over time truth actually matters, especially with the wide dissemination of information through the through the internet era, where it's not just Walter Cronkite, and Dan rather anymore telling the American people what to believe we will win in the long run. I sorry. I don't mean to get off tracks back to the fake news story. So the snowflake reporter tweets to Bloomingdale's about this -fensive. I can't believe you put this out there. And then Pamela would another one out there. Another other snowflake chimes in another reporter how we and Bloomingdale's by the way in another snowflake move. I won't be shopping in there anymore. I never shopped near anyway, my wife's probably like, Omar good, right policy. She but Bloomingdale's panics and says, we're we'll remove this jerk. Gimme a break with the snowflakes, but the boy to this. The irony of the whole thing that these media folks, Joe apparently missed this through right? They believe in free speech and open media, and they're actively using their social media profiles to bully and a free market enterprise Bloomingdale's into pulling down a shirt, which defends them. But they don't see the irony there, and they completely miss, and it's why I told you I have no faith these media lunatics in the long run. They will discredit just sit back and watch the ride folks that media will do will discredit themselves all on their own. You don't need to help them advance the football. You don't need to give them a vitamin B twelve shot of discrediting energy. They will do it all on their own. Let me circle back to the beginning of the show. They did it on the collusion hoax knowing there was no evidence they've done. It by reporting fake news repeatedly about the Trump team. The media will discredit itself. Just sit. It back and watch the right? You need to get. That fake news shirt doubt. Really? This is what we're doing you. So deeply offended, but do you know, how many shirts out there? I see shake Lavarra's shirts. Impeach Trump Shire's guy in my gym about six months ago. It's you about three months ago walk into right? A conservative Jim, by the way, packed full of concerns with an impeach Trump shirt on now Joe if you were to walk around with a maga- hat and a liberal Jim in Manhattan, you're taking your life into your own hands. You there? It is politics, right? Shirt up at cool. You are taking you have to get like a light dumbbell to defend yourself. You may have to go with someone this guy walked around the gym this liberal kid with this impeach Trump show. And you know, what happened to him? Joe take a guess nothing. Nothing happened to you cheated because I told you this story before, but he didn't even you wouldn't even need the cheat. Nothing happened. He worked out. Nobody cared, nor did I I don't know if he was peacocking shirt like we were all supposed. Nobody cared. Knock yourself out, buddy workout. Nobody cared. I'm telling you not one person bat an eyelash a couple of people probably snickered and laughed at him. They just moved on. But the snowflakes can't take it. This is why in the long run. We will always win. This fight truth has to matter. You know when you disagree book. My wife, and I both read called the road less travel. By m Scott, peck, it was a bestseller for like five years or something. It's a really I'm not into self help books at all believe me. But it really is a transformative book from a Harvard psychiatrist who has extensive experience interviewing trouble people and came to a number of conclusions about people who are pathological liars and narcissists, and how sooner or later, you know, you're going to have to accept the truth. And there's a point is book where he discusses the fact that that civilised human civilization seems to be defying the laws of physics this quick. I don't wanna boy. But this it's an interesting point. Joe how everything in natured you notice over time has this tendency towards entropy or disorder you put oil globule globules and water. They don't order themselves. They disperse randomly. Right. You know, you blow a Dan the lion into the air. It doesn't. They don't go single file. They chaotically blow wherever the wind. Throwing them you see that scene from Jurassic Park where the scientists puts the drop of water on the female, scientists hand and says, it's isn't it amazing? How it never runs in the same direction twice due to the hairs on your hand sweat everything moves towards chaos, but as peck points out in his book except humanity humanity over time has gone from Neanderthal to savagery. Two semi chaos. To summit Lee sense of order and dignity where the barge majority of people across the globe, become more prosperous, less hungry. More knowledgeable everything it's happened to humankind. I believe it's because we've been touched by the hand of God as moved to from savagery towards order in the exact opposite way nature intense for everyone else, you let your bushes grow. Do they grow in a straight line? No, they grow chaotically. I say that because truth matters, and we the conservative movement. The liberty lovers out there. We are on the right side of this. The media's not they've been called out for lies dishonesty propaganda snowflake ary, the lack of truth telling over and over. Their approval ratings are in the tank, we're on the right side of this. Smile a little bit. We will win this in the long run. All right one last story. I just want to bring up quickly. Interesting polling data out there about this Medicare for all why am I bringing this up because again, a harking back to the green new deal vote McConnell's going to call on the floor, which is going to put these presidential Senate candidates on the record and in a very very damaging position in the general election against Trump. Joe nine a primary there is another issue out there that is going to do significant damage to the Democrats this Medicare for all issue is creating another quandary for them dilemma, the dilemmas this show this Medicare for all and the accompanying taxes in the wiping out of private insurance, actually polls. Okay. On the democrat side, not great. But okay, slim majorities. Now, Joe if you want to win democrat primary to be the nominee for president. Do you think you want to be on the positive side of that issue with the negative side? Obviously, you want to be on the positive side, which even know Medicare for all is only a slim majority of Democrats, it's still a majority. What's the problem? Joe? How do you think this issue polls amongst the general electorate, Democrats and Republicans at independence if I told you Joe it pulled horribly? Do you think that would be a winner winner chicken dinner moment? Yes. Yeah. Okay. It probably I caught you off guard. Yeah. Their polls horrendously it polls horribly when people find out that Medicare for all is going to involve a near doubling of their tax rates in the white ping out of their own personal insurance plan, they freak out. The polls are in ten to twenty percent. So just like the green new deal vote. The Democrats are in a classic dilemma if I don't vote for the green new deal. I'll lose my primary, and if I lose my primary, I'll never get to run in the general. But if I do vote for the green new deal, I'm on the record for policy where I'm gonna get smoked in the general, but I never would have gotten into first place. The exact same dilemma is being posed by Medicare for all. And that's why Sanders and a lot of these others presidential Warren and others are on the record supporting this. But they know it's a lie because in general, they are going to have to run from this thing because it is an apocalyptic electoral disaster. Big storm clouds on the horizon for the Democrats running for president, folks. All right. Thanks again for tuning in, folks. Really? Appreciate it today was another stack show, please subscribe to my Email list. I can send you these articles we discussed on the show every day. In addition police subscribe to the show in is free. It's available on tunein. 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Morning Joe 7/26/19

"Someone tried to order a cake for two year old that said happy birthday lizard but the bakery misheard them sent them to kick this happy birthday loser. This is real looking at the White House. Trump up was like what is the cake I order for done. Junior say Lizard Good morning and welcome to morning Joe. It is Friday July twenty six along with Joe Willy and me we have the host of Saturday night politics on on M._S._N._B._C.. Donny Deutsch New York Times reporter Jeremy Peters is with US Republican strategist and M._S._N._B._C. political analyst Susan del Persio Politics Editor for the daily Beast San Stein and Pulitzer Prize winning columnist and so sit at the Washington Post and M._S._N._B._C. political analyst Eugene Robinson is with us this morning so take your pick joe at the top stories this morning when he wrote Moscow manage can congressional Democrats get on the same page. Nancy Pelosi meets with A._O._l.. Users warning this as one of the house speakers top lieutenants comes out in support of impeaching the president plus Congress takes action on one front and definitely does not on another the house passes a sweeping spending bill while Senate Republicans block election security legislation just hours after Bob Muller testified in case. There's any doubt about Russia which there should not be a new report from the Intel Committee shows just it's time aggressive. Moscow was and how unprepared the U._S. was to deal with. We're GONNA talk about that in the second but really the shocking thing about this is at Robert Muller testified that not only did Russia tried to interfere with a two thousand thousand sixteen election and not only did Donald Trump's all of his intel community and Kirstin Nilsson when Jews the Homeland Security said Russia undermined American democracy in two thousand sixteen we remember back then the warnings came but Moscow Mitch that being Mitch McConnell of Moscow Kentucky actually blocked that and said he threatened the people that were going to try to get that information to warn Americans. Now we have almost almost four years later the same warnings coming coming not only from the independent counsel which sixty percent of Republicans believe Renna Fair Investigation Republicans we now have the Intel Committee and the Senate run by North Carolina Republican Richard Burr saying what that the Russians tried to infiltrate all fifty states in two thousand sixteen to undermine American democracy accuracy and undermine of free and fair election and on the same day Willie Moscow Mitch blocks two bills that would actually protect us from a Russian invasion in this area well first of all. I want to thank you for bearing the lead. which is the red SOx historic dismantling of the Yankees last night at Fenway Park Guy Three you guys buren? I predicted that you guys we're gonNA sweep it so okay you win three out of four. Go ahead okay so we've pushed that to the side but yeah you're absolutely right the Senate report that came out yesterday from the Intel Committee led by Republican Richard Burr of North Carolina was damning but it merely reiterated what we've heard over the last two years that we've heard from all the intelligence agencies we heard from the Muller report we heard from Robert Muller's testimony who said memorably two days ago Russia's interfering with our elections right now as we sit here and will interfere again in our twenty twenty election. It's happening in real time. Now you have the Senate Intel Committee coming out in detailing in its its own way after its investigation what exactly Russia and other countries have been doing so to have Mitch McConnell step in between election security and this country and our future elections is what coming up in twenty twenty is outrageous. Yes I mean he wasn't we talk about it. Mitch McConnell talks about it. In terms of this conspiracy calls it the Russia hoax he said well. This is just another bill partisan Democrats. Who've been pushing a hoax well? The hoax is not a hoax. It's what Robert Muller's spent six hours the other day detailing. It's what the Senate Intel Committee now details in a long report with more to come. I don't know how you can in good faith. Sit In denial about what is happening and what's going to happen in the next election election well. We're about to get some blockbuster polls Donnie that are going to show just how much donald trump still is suffering out there in the polls. He can fire all the pollsters. He wants but they're onto him. A lot of Americans are onto him now but I wanNA talk about Moscow Mitch and let's just line this up for a second so you have Robert Muller a lifelong Republican the most respected F._B._i.. Director in the history of this country of a Vietnam war hero a guy that made the ranger the Army Rangers Dangerous Hall of fame a guy who said Russia is trying to invade America right now. They're in Moscow. Mitch says it's a hoax you have his own intelligence committee in the Senate led by Republican Richard were saying that Russia tried to infiltrate all fifty states back in two thousand sixteen and are going to try it again. Moscow Mitch calls it a hoax you have the Republican publican trump appointed f._B._i.. Director saying that the Russians infiltrated America's democracy and they're going to try again. Moscow Mitch calls it a hoax you have the head the director of national intelligence saying and that the Russians tried to infiltrate or election system tried to subvert American democracy and they're going to try it again. Moscow Mitch said it's a hoax you have trump's appointed director of the CIA saying that the Russians are trying to undermine American democracy that the Russians tried and sixteen. We'll try again Moscow. Mitch calls it a hoax. You have military Intel people people for Military Intel community knowing because they were fighting the Russians in two thousand fifteen two thousand sixteen and are still fighting them every day to stop them from continuing to infiltrate American Democracy Donnie. Jim Moscow Mitch says it's a hoax. Now tell me I understand that. There's a oligarch that I I've read is going to be setting up a big aluminum plant in Moscow Mitch's homestate. I don't know of that's it but how can Moscow Mitch so so willingly turn a blind. I not only this year to what his Republican chairman of the Intel Committee is saying to what Robert Muller's Chris saying to what the F._B._I.. Director saying what the D._N._A. is saying to what the CIA is saying. What the United States Military Intel communities saying how can Moscow Mitch keep denying that Vladimir Putin continues to try to subvert American Democracy Joe? I love that you call in Moscow Mitch because frankly it's a continuation of something I suppose I wanted to manage. Its He's at all people call him cocaine Mitch. Maybe I don't know maybe he's right. I mean he's he's only cocaine Mitsubishi's run and cocaine to Moscow because he's Moscow Mitch because you're seriously he he is he is he is aiding and abetting Vladimir Putin's ongoing attempts use to subvert American democracy according to the Republican F._B._I.. C._I._A.. Deny Intel Committee drugs. Are Republicans are all saying Russia is burning American democracy and Moscow Mitch. Mitch won't even let the Senate take a vote on it is UNAMERICAN Joe. You're doing this because it's something you started yesterday now. I WANNA wind back yesterday because to me so I've been on the show for ten years. Frankly have listened to a lot of listened to a lot we broiled on the air lot and what you said in a couple of minutes yesterday to me is the most important thing that's ever been said on this show on any show on this air and that we are at war it is time for the Democrats to wake up we are playing against cheaters and liars are steelers and with all due respect to Michelle Obama when they go hi when they go. We gotta do whatever we have a half to do. We actually have a government led by Moscow Bitch and criminal trump. Oh by the way we're GONNA call him unindicted criminal trump now because in two instances he has been an unindicted criminal so I I know in in regular when you're playing fair your school in President Trump just like when Moscow Mitch what we call him criminal trump and another message for the Democrats it is time to move forward. There are two takeaways from Muller that we're going to us. As we go to war number one the president broke the law and when he's out of office he can go and we'll go to jail and number two. We are vulnerable with our election systems. That's are two things we may not have won the battle of impeachment but we're going to win the war of putting him in jail what ever we have to do and we're not going to necessarily play fair and for all the intellectuals out there who's hairs going to go on fire but we're becoming like them. We're becoming like them. We cannot lose the next election. We will go back fifty years. We have to one of the joker just finished the one tool we have to use that the Democrats never use is fear start to stop talking about Donald Trump today and yesterday and start to paint a picture of what the next four years would look like maybe the next eight twelve years because he doesn't think he's going anywhere of the possible path to a dystopia in society. There is no more Kleenex. We cannot bring a knife fight to a gunfight was here. Here's the thing though Gene Robinson we don't have to look for years into the future. We can look right now and yes. We're at war we're at war in Russia declared that war in two thousand sixteen and they decided they were going to subvert American democracy and every one of donald trump's appointed intel chief said Russia is trying to subvert American Democracy Robert Muller said at a few days ago and yesterday the Intel chief the Republican indulge that I came into Congress with the nineteen ninety four. He's a conservative guy. The Tire Intel Committee said the Russians tried subvert American democracy in fifty states and they're still trying it and yet Moscow Mitch keeps killing any bill that would protect American democracy from Vladimir Vladimir Putin spies. What are we do about that Jane? Well you know what do we do about it. We we we elect this this <hes> Donny Deutsch Cottam criminal president we <hes> and we call it out. I mean we eat. I look I'm in total agreement with the <hes> when when they go we <hes> we get busy argument. I mean it is this is an emergency. This is <hes> situation <hes> <music>. I'm never seen in American politics. <hes> and we were in danger. We really are endangered by this president and this administration and the Senate majority leader who will not allow <hes> how will not allow vote on this this crucial legislation Gary He will not gene allow of on protecting America the D._H._S. secretary the F._B._i.. Director the CIA director deny had they all our military community. Everybody said that American democracy is at risk and Mitch McConnell Moscow Mitch continues to cover up for Vladimir Putin Newton and won't allow the vote he he does and Richard Burr is not a flaming liberal runs the Senate Intel Committee but that that report is chilling and one killing parts is that they <hes> the Russians were trying to infiltrate and snoop around election systems off fifty states in all fifty states. I mean so it's not you know if you think we are somehow protected protected by the fact that we basically have fifty different election electoral systems instead of lawn and therefore less vulnerable well that seemed like a good <hes> a good rationale but that's not the case they were in all fifty and the other thing is that a lot of the incursions looked like like recon missions you know so they would they would sort of map the terrain so that they could come back and guess what we have an election next year and they'll be back. It's stunning that this is what we fall into in this country speaking of that election now to adjust released Fox News poll finds Joe Biden defeating trump by ten points links nationally forty-nine percent. That's not even slows Yup but Democrats don't get don't get ahead of your smoke but I mean that's not even but that's not even close to an interest that's wait. He's making fun of Joe Biden and he's losing by over Tisby will sanders trump by six to a socialist by six Mamas and I'll tell you what if I if I if I without loss to a Socialist FEM Republican and I've been present for three years and I lose a socialist by six points. I think I just go home. The president does have an edge against senators warn in Harris and opole within the margin of error so they're really tied and Apollon this swing state of Ohio. He's big in Ohio. We keep hearing he's going to Ohio by time which President One eight points twenty sixteen chose a tough race for most Democrats but not for Joe Biden the Quinnipiac University poll has biden currently leading trump by eight points fifty to forty two. You're you're telling me that Joe Biden is crushing Donald Trump in Ohio too yeah. This is supposed to be as strongest Midwest State. All other Democrats are effectively tied with trump in the middle of forty all right so let's let's let's pass this round with Willie obviously a long long way to go but I will. I will say we keep hearing from the White House out great. Donald Trump is doing we have people that have been sucking up donald trump for three years. It's really sad I feel sorry for writing op ed saying Oh everything here's breaking donald trump striking down ten points to a guy he called sleepy. Joe Biden in a socialist is beating him by six points. Well look inside the state of Ohio Donald Trump one then in two thousand sixteen by eight points and if if you look at that Ohio poll and there's another South Carolina poll we can talk about in a second the Ohio poll makes the case for Joe Biden and shows you why his lead is so wide nationally in the Fox bowl. He's up eighteen points overall on Bernie Sanders but that Susan to me is the argument for for Joe Biden he can get back those states that the trump swept through the midwest whether it's Wisconsin or Pennsylvania Ohio or Michigan the states that were lost that sliver of seventy seven seventy eight thousand votes that handled donald trump the election joe biden can make the case that he can walk in and take them back he can and that's actually the biggest strength to his candidacy especially as we see shift in pole saying that Democrats want to see someone who can beat Donald trump more than they want someone one more aligned with their own values. There was something else in that Fox poll that came up and it was how Americans feel about the attacks. The twitter attacks that the president made against the squad if you will sixty three percent of Americans thought that those polls went to far at that those tweets went too far but with interesting is when asked among Republicans as if it was an okay political attack fifty nine percent of men said yes only forty percent of women said it was okay. Trump is is on the verge of really starting to lose Republican women and that will also lead to the numbers that we saw in Ohio and I just WanNa switch back to something Joe U._S.. Jean what can people do to fight Donald Trump or Mitch McConnell now I propose creating Americans for secure elections go out and attack every Republican senator for not getting behind it while they're at home this August I will tell you that a cable why doesn't take much they will feel the pressure and that is the way you move these Republicans you scare them and that's the kind of thing you do. It seems like a great idea because again a what American I want American would would not here. The warnings from Republicans on Capitol Hill from the Intel Intel Committee are from Robert Muller are from the F._B._i.. Director the CIA director are the United States its military and not say other saying that the Russians are invading us now that they're trying to undermine American democracy. That's their words not mine that they're trying to undermine American democracy and Moscow. L. Mitch is killing every single attempt to protect American democracy. I don't think that's a positive issue in Kentucky. My parents both went to University Kentucky. I Know Kentucky Pretty Well. I don't think they speak Russian like we're my parents went to school and Lexington. I mean it's ridiculous. It gets so why isn't every Republican in the united the State Senate demanding that we protect ourselves against the Russians well. Susan mentioned the women number in that Fox News poll take a look at the breakdown on whether voters feel Donald Trump respects racial minorities. Only thirty four said yes when asked the question that's down seven points from August twenty seventeen thirty four percent just after trump praised people in Neo Nazi march in Charlottesville Virginia fifty seven percent say he does not respect minorities looking inside the poll only twenty percent of minorities feel the president respects them seventy three percent say he does not most whites fifty two percent also feel the president is not respect minorities though a six point plurality of white men without a college degree believe trump respects minorities forty eight to forty two percent that margin shrinks to one point for white men with a college degree forty eight. I'm forty seven percent. Meanwhile why women regardless of education overwhelmingly feel that trump's so not respond. Let's keep these numbers up Sam style. You know there's just this overgeneralization. There's always an overgeneralization among the liberals about black voters well. There's an overgeneralization among the media about working class white voters and there's never separation between working class white light men without a college degree and working class white women without a college degree. That's a mistake especially if you look at these numbers thirty eight percent said he trump a respects racial minorities but fifty one percent of majority says he does not and that's that's quite a Fisher and suggests much more that that Donald Trump's demagoguery and his bigotry in his racism is going to even drive away some of the in the base of his vote yeah I think we when I was lost in the show you were talking about how little impractical terms trump's done to expand his coalition and that those numbers just drive that home if your president and you're sitting at low forties approval rating if you're seeing those numbers that we put up earlier from Ohio when you're running against your body hypothetical matchup normally I think the logical thing to do would be to try to do anything in your power to expand your appeal beyond the base that you have trump's done is precisely opposite. He's run a red meat campaign. He's agitated a bunch of women voters. He's launched highly racial racial attacks racist attacks against members of Congress all all in the hopes of juicing that turnout among white working class mail votes and the play is dangerous one both rhetorically and politically and those numbers suggest that it might not be successful in either hi. It's Katy Tour WanNa keep up with M._S._N._B._C.. While you're on the go subscribe to the M._S._N._B._C. daily newsletter. You'll get the best of what you've missed during this unprecedented era of news text M._S._N._B._C. to six six eight six six to subscribe live. I was probably overly polite in the way I didn't respond polite smile. Eh Joe Biden says he won't be polite. In next week's debate out of new apparently aggressive approach to his Democratic rivals in recent days. Biden has responded to attacks from fellow candidates on his record. You call that Senator Cory Cory Booker for advocating stop and Frisk searches when booker was mayor of Newark after Booker took Biden on over criminal justice and Biden said the healthcare proposal of Senator Kamala Harris is not legitimate and would wipe out private insurance is Joe Biden is among a number of presidential candidates were at the two thousand Nineteen National Urban League conference in Indianapolis and joining us now president and C._E._O.. Of the National Urban League Marc morial Mr. Morial it's always good to see thanks for taking some time on a busy week for you. You saw a lot of candidates. You shared the stage with many of them at the conference yesterday. WHO's popping down there? WHO's getting the most attention and the most reaction? I don't think we have marks Mike Okay all right. We lost this so let's let's talk about that back and forth we saw a little bit of their will get to mark Mario and just a second one we fix his mic. Joe Biden Maury Booker Cory Booker's going at two Biden on criminal Justice Reform Comma Harris at the last debate on bussing. What are they getting at here? I don't think you're getting anywhere frankly for few reasons. I think voters aren't stupid okay. They understand the nuances of things that happened twenty thirty forty fifty years ago and I believe in I've said this on the show before that Joe has a lot of what trump had the teflon thing trump's. The Republicans wanted trump so bad at one point they saw him as a winner. They're willing to let a lot slide and you're seeing that even after the horrific debate debate performance the first time around it has slid off him because every poll shows what matters to people's perception can you be trump and I think in a strange way by is going to bounce back to me like Obama after I really bad debate <hes> and all these guys do is not trip over himself. He just needs a B minus and he wins Jeremy. I'm just going to say that by was surprised by what happened on the stage. I think he just wasn't ready for it. He in fact said out loud this week. I was surprised with what Comal Harris thought we were friends. He said I think it'll be more ready to second time. Yeah exactly he didn't own answer for you can kind of tell when he said at the end there my time's up when is Joe Biden ever. I am done talking to me more to say. I think what's it's really interesting. There is whether or not Biden donning is the Jeb Bush of this cycle or the Mitt Romney of this cycle. Does he never really recovered does he keep stumbling and fall but you know his numbers have year right. They've come up <hes> or is he romney who kind of goes through this log and his wounded by the time he ends because he's had such a brawl with his. I think he's you okay but the interesting thing is this whole race thing to me. After what we saw only eight days he's ago in North Carolina or present basically saying go back to we came from people of Color and if there are nuanced race to arguments between the Democrats I think people guys there's a bigger beast to slay out there and we're going to talk about bills twenty thirty years ago world a good guy so I think any of the candidates start getting into a race fight on stage. You are missing the big picture. I actually think Biden may have been being a little strategic care talking about stop and Frisk because build the Blasi is going to be on that stage. Bill de Blasio came in as mayor saying I will end the policy and he did and crime has not taken the big increase that everyone thought so I think he he set that up is a perfect foil for Bill Blasi to go after Cory Booker and let them have at and Kinda keeps him out of that that whole issue altogether so there's been some talk gene Robinson this morning even of Joe Biden stumbling. We should all stumble so <hes> well. He's up eighteen points in the boxers. He's up to twenty seven points in South Carolina leading president trump by eight points in the state of Ohio. Allow me to stumble Huber's answer. I mean no he he is. He's he's more than old familiar. Joe Biden with name recognition at this point because everybody recognizes everybody's name now Biden does have a history and as as don he said a lot of it is ancient history and I I think what he needs to do and what he will do is in this debate is go back to the theme that got him that lead remember when he announced his campaign and he went right after Donald trump he went after the national emergency went after the idea that this is this is an exceptional moment in the nation's history when we have to get back on on on track we have to get back on the the course we had been sailing we we have to we have to stop this this this awful destructive deviation that this president is trying to take us on <hes> as he drives wedges between Americans and and and between us in our allies and everything else and and and that I think should be his focus in these perria taxes they come but but but that's that's a to to me in the Democratic primary that should be a winning argument and I think you know I I would advise all the candidates to to focus more of their fire on on President trump than on each well. I would double down on that argument meant for sure because at this point the enemy is within to an extent but it's the platform the megaphone and the ability to communicate to people who might be wavering on this and I wonder gene I mean we've got Joe Biden polling well among. An African American voters another area where I think he does well is exactly what he was talking to us about on morning joe at a bar in Philadelphia during the last election and that was about Hillary Clinton and he said she's not talking to us. Middle Middle Aged white guys from Ohio from Delaware from anywhere across America who's going to appeal to the disenfranchised trump voter. That's an area. That's really important and if you're too far left and you know you're you're you're all these democratic platform issues that are way over on the left. You're not gonNA get those voters. I think they're just as important WHO's GonNa do it. I think it's Joe Biden you know I I've been wondering for awhile if our traditional concepts of of what's left in what's right aren't outdated at this point. I mean you look at look at the policy positions that Donald Trump took in in winning in two thousand sixteen and a lot of them. You would think you know belong more on the left on on on the right <hes> so he's a weird time. When we're undergoing sort of realignment I worry less about what seems to what seems to write us to as to what seems relevant to me what issue seem relevant to me and and Biden as we see in the poll numbers we just ran over from we've just looked at from Ohio for example that Ohio state that a lot of Democrats think is is basically lost and all of a sudden you see him beating trump in in Ohio in polls and that tells me that that there are a lot of those voters you're talking about? They're not just in Ohio but the throughout the Midwest in the rust belt who currency by somebody who's on their side. That's not get shouldn't have to be exclusively Biden but but he's he's ahead of the others right now absolutely all right. We're going to get more with Marc morial after quick break. We'll be right back with much more morning. Welcome back to morning Joe. We have effectively connected now mr mayor the soup cans drain and we are connected our apologies to you. Thank you for your patients mayor morial. I'll let you pick up with question. I asked you got a big collection of Democratic presidential contenders down. I'm with you at your conference. Who impressed your group there the conference the most well I thought they all did really well enough thought they all did <hes> get things that were impressive? Here's what I saw. <hes> cory booker was passionate. <hes> extremely forceful in his message. Amy Klobuchar exhibited a great sense of humor <hes> someone that the CA- the crowd really did know and Joe Biden exhibited folks in this and <hes> seemed to have <hes> was the person that people most interested in meeting taking selfies with and connecting with on a personal level but all of them I think talked about the things that people wanted to hear voting rights <hes> economic growth urban development how you're gonNA stop rushing into fearance. <hes> how you're gonNA improve schools <hes> what are you going to do about the criminal justice system so our format gave the candidates eight to ten minutes to really develop their thoughts and then they took a series of Q._N._A.'s that I presented to each and every one of them so in that format <hes> we heard I think a more thorough discussion and you get in these sort of multi-candidate debates for these clips or in these sort of truncated truncated spin that comes across sometimes on cable television <hes> but Biden <hes> <hes> seemed to have what Joe Biden one of his great assets seems to be his personal style his ability to connect with people on a hersal level. I saw that in display cory booker did well. The crowd knows Cory Booker well <hes> amy club chart to some extent was new to this this sort of stage at the National Urban Delaney and Ryan who were candidates who got getting a lot of shine they also I think talk about economics manufacturing small business growth and development so it was a good discussion today. We've got five more candidates include Kamla Harrison I think great interest in her Kristen Gillibrand <hes> and may appear from South Bend who's here from who who's right here in the state of Indiana and they're all like little mini town halls where they do get to explain themselves and answer awesome your questions one asks you Mr Moore about a poll. We've been talking about this morning and just get your read on it. Coming out of the State of South Carolina where Joe Biden leads by healthy margin overall by twenty seven points but when you look inside the numbers among African American voters in south South Carolina Joe Biden has fifty one percent support. You've gotta go way down to twelve percent before you find Senator Kamala Harris ten percent for Bernie Sanders almost a forty point lead in South Carolina among African American voters for Joe Biden. How do he explained that African American voters from what I hear a very interested in electability the ability of whomever the nominee is to defeat donald trump but also to take on Donald Trump and I think it's early Willie it's early? We're we're just in <hes> in late July and so there's much time I think Comma Harris or Cory Booker or Elizabeth Warren or or the other all the candidates have time to try to make up this difference but with this reflects is Joe. Biden is a well known commodity someone with when people have worked with a part of the Obama administration and that long history and that sense sense that on day one he's ready to be president is what I think is helping him in the polls as well as his personal style. I've said this and <hes> <hes> work with many of the candidates Joe Biden has this unique quality all of the I've seen it at play where he is as comfortable talking to a group of truck drivers or firefighters as he is an African American church or at someone's kitchen table. It's not with Joe Biden simply about lot issues. It's also about leadership style and I think voters are assessing not just hard issues. They're evaluating that but they're also evaluating leadership style. I think a Comma Harris or Elizabeth Warren have not had the visibility ability as of yet or cory booker or Kristen Gillibrand but people to really assess their leadership style how they would function in an office like president how they would handle pressure so those things <hes> you know I think are in play and this is what I hear from the people who are here in Indianapolis. Sam Stein has a question for him. Miss Missouri. I'm curious is not necessarily policy issue for the Urban League but it is a political issue. That's dividing Democrats and I'm wondering while you're there in the room. What the appetite is for the party to begin impeachment proceedings? You talked a little bit about how electability is an acid for Joe Biden the flip side of that a getting rid of trump would be through through impeachment proceedings so I'm curious because the crowd sears yeah chain for it and you know what are they saying to you. I can people say while this sort of this response that there would be support for impeachment. It's more important to think about the end game and the fact that the election is just a little bit over a year away right and that the important thing is to change the presidency and not to get if you will distracted that that being said of course you hear people say some people saying yes we need to impeach but I also think that there are also not people don't well understand the fact that the impeachment is to step process and would require are not only a boathouse trial in the Senate and I think where people are educated about the the difficulty of the impeachment process think then they focus on we wanna get changed and let's do it through the ballot box. One thing I will say African American voters are art energize their fired up. They're ready to vote paying attention to this election washing issues and the other side of it is and as you know I've been around this for many many election cycles. There is a competition the African American vote that I've not seen every one of these candidates in one way shape or form is competing in recognizing the influence of African American codes particularly in a Democratic primaries all right Marc morial. Thank you so much than urban league prince. That's always good to have you in Indianapolis and tomorrow Hi. I'm cater and I'm Jacob Sobirov Katie Katie and I are teaming up for a special four part series called American swamp airing on M._S._N._B._C.. We are going to be digging deep into Fort Murky areas of American politics. Everything from Donald Trump's business ties to the way dark money is impacting our elections.

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our city and you'll all be able to listen to it because it will be our Thursday pot so just everyone if you can come great if not you'll hear it Thursday corner part and it's a very good interview if if we do say so ourselves behind the curtain we limit ourselves everyone should listen speaking of love it Zander that should be held to but slowly but surely you see that like you know he's not getting backed up by people like Lindsey Graham right there's going to be you know there's going to be a movement to have some kind ability to do this without accountability yeah I think a significant strategic error it showed him to be as petulant shortsighted and unprincipled as we all suspected self promoting love it or leave at this Friday we had an awesome love it or leave it with Kumail Nangiani Gareth Reynolds and learn laugh guests that you guys should listen to you right now I'm a big fan of the he would he would be then going on to tweet a threat at the FBI director that let everyone in the world to believe that he's secretly tape recording conversations in the White House the gym combing because that's the world we're stuck in Yep it's amazing like they were two weeks ago or like guys we have to touch base with talk about call me a little bit more we know we're all kind of sick of the topics the things can we do here to hold him accountable at this stage in the game at this point that we with the power of the Democrats have and it's an either or I don't think it's a hold them accountable or not hold is a week out from this now is trump gonna get away with this is this are we is is this what we're going to deal with now like I mean because how many I've also been told we should try to keep these to a minute and they've been getting a little long fair fight on twitter about oh well excited for this tonight I hope you enjoy your meal each meal credit message I think it's interesting that if you look at polling that actually healthcare that people are far more upset about worried about and that's resonating in states but to the degree that Democrats are effort on behalf of some Republicans a lot of Republicans and especially some you know in the media and the right wing media to say Oh Democrats are hyperventilating the media's trying to stop him from doing anything in Washington it's a great distraction for the press corps because they can't focus on anything else and rightly so we'll say there's an is another huge desire because it gives Democrats something to seize on it's very simple are there tapes yes or no if so release the tapes and I don't think that should be the entire no but I think this was the funniest one where we're going to do we introduce some new segments the show became president this Wednesday at the hotel friendly about this it's just make it sort of a team thing but like we have seen people that are nonpartisan like James Clapper said that the FBI firing amounted to an and quotes were this guy scares me quote there are no guardrails on his presidency and quote this is Richard Nixon on steroids so these are like Republican senators and Congress it from day one has been very clear to me that you cannot possibly underestimate the degree to which is going to distract his entire White House staff and team as they're trying to do other things when he was talking to though none of them speak out very they're very brave corrupt under the cloak of anonymity these Republicans I wonder if one of them is Rubio on a political level that's a good thing for us as Democrats as a country it's a really bad thing because we need these people to do their jobs but instead they wake up every day and read about how because Altan the country's checks and balances David Ignatius talked to a reporter for the Washington Post he talked to various Republicans this week and they all need to lawyer up and you know that is scary as hell if you're sitting in those jobs and you know these people are not gonna be able to do anything else in like the culture of the head of the FBI his job is not just to investigate trump his universe the world doesn't revolve around Donald Trump he's one of the nation's top counterterrorism officials the FBI director applied to them and made them spin one thing one day in the opposite the next day now he's GonNa fire them and they pick up politico in they've tires story written from Clinton aides telling them riding in game of thrones bullshit and leaking is is it seems like it's all consuming yeah I mean well the other thing too is it's obviously consuming for the White House the accountability to this Chituwo trump by the end of the week is supposed to appoint the next or says he's going to appoint the next FBI director quick turnaround by the way for pointing time trump supporter puke party hack just an absolute shell absolute show it it's unfair to Chuck Schumer to say that this would be like Barack Obama pointing Chuck Schumer but have a slow process run a healthcare bill people find out what's in it they don't like it so when you kind of it's sort of like government by Sucker Punch they throw something out there quickly get it through before anyone has the ability to kind of raise the alarm stop it and that's something they could definitely try to do with this I noticed that with obviously John Cornyn 's name has been floated he's the number two Republican in the Senate is similar it's exactly oh just imagine right it's an it's an investigation into Hillary Clinton's emails and Barack Obama tells Lester Holt well when I fired the FBI Director I did think to myself I like the email investigation and my new my new FBI director is going to be Chuck Schumer like reporters right when they floated Koren's name a lot of them are saying well is a real fucking job that you need a good person they're doing well so let's talk about that so talking with some of the ways that Democrats are thinking about trying to hold trump accountable here trying to bring some someone with ten year term that's gonNA run the nation's top line for well one thing that I was just sort of you know you look at what they've learned in the last couple of weeks and the one thing they learned is when you if it's Cornyn that's GonNa he's just going to sail through confirmation the Senate because Senate courtesy in Bubba Blah and like I was at least Lindsey Graham has taken a little bit of a Ernie over the last week because he started by apparently according to sources he was the one on the phone with trump saying like fine if you want to start prejudice I go for it and can we we will need again like we need for everything in the Senate we need three Republicans to say no to a a trump appointee for them to block it now he's saying I don't think Cornyn should be the pick but Senator Graham ghetto drifting in the winds here on the a tough issue I know I guess the question is do you think a partisan politics of the president can fire Komi as we just saw that said I mean you want a technocratic individual you want someone that comes back in law enforcement such a lack of respect regard for like half the country like it's the F. B. I. You actually pre Republicans in the Senate don't gain anything from having a partisan F. b. i. e. floating is Merrick Garland because they wanna get him out of a very important judgeship into a job where donald trump could fire him the next day it is the most cynical ridichio I don't know I don't I mean with Cornyn maybe Graham Graham vote against Cornyn I hope I I think the problem is it's hard for these guys to vote against them but maybe not as quote unquote taped conversations with Komi or admit that he doesn't have them in made the whole thing up this raises a broader question should Democrats grind all Senate for them to signal that they don't want this to be picked so they don't have to vote for him I don't know I mean you saw Rubio say Cornyn and try out so political reported today the Democrats might force procedural votes Tom you're alluding to this that required trump to either give up his business to a halt until you know they get him to admit this on the tapes they get the Special Prosecutor they get an FBI director who's not a politician a non-partisan I mean how maybe trump does personally because he's a criminal but like Republican senators discussing me around for ten years like this is a place where it's easy to care about your country more and Lia weenie about this as do everything possible by any means possible we are in a totally different reality here people people seems like such an obvious abuse of power that if we let this go I don't know how we move on from here like you know I just think there's something I know that people might not care about it a ton right how far should Democrats go or can Democrats go to you know hold them accountable here far I know I I'm I I'm and like even if you're going for a win like don't you you don't care at all about Democrats you don't think they matter at all you don't think these people in your district manner at all and they don't they don't they don't care because the name there it is also a fact that we have an entire right wing apparatus that literally will not report on the fact that Donald Trump's explanation timeline everything about why he fired Komi has changed yeah those would be wonderful picks which is fucking despicable cerebral Marco Rubio man this is supposed to be a position that's viewed is not part I mean it's not it's not a lifetime appointment it's not a judgeship it's not here's deeply but Komi being fired but the country's shrugs now I I hate that kind of reporting because you to people form opinions over time care about more in the country than they care about the education but at the same time he fucking fired the FBI director because he was investigating him like to it is it is I I have no idea an it'd be no way of knowing no confidence in this but like that felt like a classic trump empty threat which is why going to bat to find out that there are no tapes we should be obstructionist just like them I'm about it because what you were just alluding to love it which is the message right like if we go if we grind business to a halt than it is we make the story but I think that sometimes that might not matter see this drives me crazy busy these these these stories you saw like one day two days three days later they'd say Washington end no FBI director until a special prosecutor is named Yeah and until you want do either one of those two things you take care I agree released the tapes it so for the next however many weeks as the Senate's ground to a halt this investigation investigation to the detriment of talking about health care about tax reform talking about all the other things that people much fifty one percent said yes so even back then right before presidents raising nation he had the base with him and he had a bunch of people thinking the media was hyping this too much things change so let me see Wall Street Journal had a poll out about this over the weekend twenty nine percent approve of trump firing Komi thirty eight percent disapprove thirty two percent had no opinion it's also just like look put the put what we should do or shouldn't it's also heartbreaking the idea that you could pick them unlike John Cornyn because it just shows makes me feel like well I don't know maybe we should healthcare but I I don't know but more over the dumbest thing possible you know I mean either you're pathetic liar again check or we should make this central what we're doing you have thirteen guys somewhere in the Senate right in this healthcare bill you know that's an ongoing probably watch Fox News which is barely reported on it or just reported on Democrats hysteria overcome E or you don't pay attention to us at all you don't think it matters so much but like if that's the case the better for worse guys we're playing a long game here okay approval ratings like thirty eight thirty nine he's got eighty percent approval from Republicans but independence in a couple of days before he resigned fifty nine percent of Republicans still said no same another question asked right before he resigned is the media covering this issue of Watergate that shouldn't stop people in Washington from pushing hard as they can on this because some people aren't paying attention to the way so many somebody made this point like only Washington cares about this well that's where they make the loss you're taping people's secretly and it sounds like there's a lot of history and evidence of MC Wrigley taping deal it's an interesting I'm not torn about it because I think oh we can't be obstructionist like them no fucking removing you're still seven percent of Democrats seem to be cool with him so like we have time to slowly erode and chip away people's views on him by just talking about the crazy stuff he's doing I don't think we should community this clearcut I've also thought some we'll Jordan third tweeting out poll numbers from the Watergate era this weekend interesting so should Nixon resign they need we need to make this a big deal and push them in every way possible to to try to get some sort of answers in terms of the tapes at the bare minimum I guess that like will understand what's going on in the bureau on Day One and John Cornyn does not that person trading obvious not that but it seems like a simple message from Democrats should just be a no politicians and list nonsense hey merrick garland do you want to give up your lifetime appointment for job where you know trump's gonna probably by today's that sounds like a great great trade Maryland the more this Russia investigation and the Komi stuff hurts trump politically the the easier it is for Senate Republicans to break with him it feels a little premature but I I do think Democrats can walk and Chew Gum here I think we can the indivisible in all these groups doing great work sending people to town halls should continue to do that and they continue to talk about it arching and getting worse for trump send me well so in love I know you love talking about this but there's been a lot of impeachment talk about this right you mean holding him accountable on things like health care that's true right and so it might actually help these things Yeah The New York Times reported essentially what you just said that Republicans were beginning to break from trial what was Hillary who they call although ninety three percent have heard about the comb us so this contrary to what some issue that really does have a day-to-day impact on people's lives and it will be more central to the midterm elections it's hard it's hard you and you know you could also make the case that approve the firing right then if you had heard just a little bit about Ramey so it is an information thing like if you pay attention to the news patriots in the reporting you think it's awful if here's about how it feels and how it sounds and the further we push the further we push like every it seems impossible that this was the craziest week we've had so far but it is yeah and we're getting and things and you know sixty is the threshold for filibuster and now you're going up to sixty seven it's like the question is what more crazier could happen Senate sixty-seven sixty-seven so you need two thirds of the Senate otherwise he's acquitted so like we're sitting here talking about how to get like fifty three votes for things impeachment right is so now you have trump possibly committing obstruction of justice rate on one hand that is a legal you know there's a legal characterization reported like many people have heard about this thing now what was interesting where you were just saying time is if you had heard a lot about Komi you are way more likely to be I it's so far away to start talking about the Senate but like man if we're at the point where where we're at the high crimes and misdemeanors place we're not talking about we don't need sixty seven whether it obstruction of justice or not but impeachment doesn't rest solely on some legal judgment right it is actually the political judgment of members of the House of Representatives who have to decide on this right and they decided back in nineteen ninety eight that Bill Clinton had committed obstruction of justice and they impeached him some legal scholars either things the dynamic get so bad for trump that house Republicans tell him basically that they would vote for it for dynamic get so bad for trump that we win the house and then we can impeach him and lawyers probably said Bill Clinton had not done that right but the house decides so it it really I don't WanNa say it's beside the point but it does seem like look until you get a house would plausibly vote on impeachment it seems very premature and also we should just let it ruined because a lot of people are like Oh impeachments like even if the how talking about impeachment helps us or hurt us in winning the house back because that's all that matters to me because if you want to fantasize about impeachment that's fine What I think about is the concept votes we need what Thirteen Republicans Roy to change their minds and and that that starts to become a different a different thing I just think that like in a world where Donald Trump is being impeached ah the question is impeachment talk I asked still premature the time is right or who the hell cares it's not going to happen anyway until a long time what do you think so the whole issue complete doesn't exist in their world doesn't exist in their world it's just liberal hysteria well yes the Embassy Wall Street Journal which is our thing way out hoping for like this is back to the whole thing from snl that like one story is going to hit or one answer he's going to give that ends at all and we don't have to worry about working hard even if we won the house back in two thousand eighteen and the House voted to impeach Donald Trump the Senate you need sixty six votes in the Senate right because you need two thirds of the does of winning the House and I think about Donald Trump I think about how do you stymie Donald Trump from continuing to be a menace to this country and I think about two years of Donald Trump being investigated house back we will be able to find a lot of these answers yeah I mean the I guess what I would say is I I don't know about impeachment talk I I think it feels quite fanciful at this moment i WanNa know Enj- very quickly well they changed very slowly and then they change very quickly so we just don't know and I do agree yeah we should I I I it's it's just a hard question because even as in the house whether he's being impeached or not while while fending off some kind of primary challenge throughout two thousand nine hundred and two thousand twenty and that to me is a very exciting possibility and it does all you and it has to roll downhill and you don't know how it's going to get I you know this is a political question and there's only there's only two ways a political question like that can be answered in favor impeachment in the house healthcare is the primary economic challenge we face but we also shouldn't let this go because it's simple and we can you find a couple of crater senators which look I'm not hopeful Holton? SNL did their thing where they're like did I get them is it over right which I think captures the feeling like did he say it did he say it and like because this is a political question and I'll legal question it really aren't but we don't but we just need to hold him there we need to be able to win on the other front which is the policy and political front while while doing everything we can I'll hear about a couple of people there have been centers come out and said if there are tapes they need to be released and simple and also by the way it's not just about hoping that they be courageous it's about it requires wouldn't last week you know we didn't talk about much jeff sessions Sort of rolling back a lot of sensing reforms that Eric holder and the Obama administration less courage to do the right thing and that's about trumping less popular it's about the sort of dynamics around this issue changing Jonah we're talking to this right before we started that like trump said this crazy quote and it gives you more power in this investigation right which Democrats more partners investigation which we have not had up until now there's no like hoping that your Republican counterpart Plays Nice if the Democrats win the so now he's you know he and Friday he ordered federal prosecutors to pursue the toughest penalties possible for those convicted of possessing even the smallest amount we should just double stamp on how within a year so you'll never get bored handshake blue apron tonight WHOA testimonial can you please give us the recipe no fucking clue well I'll tell you what some featured upcoming meals critical that we do so but I don't think there's going to be I mean I hope there is I doubt there's silver bullet that leads trumpet out of office in Handcuffs we shouldn't dream it's like I'm there's a thing called the it's a different world than the one word living in right now the other thing to remember is if the Democrats win the House back before you even get impeachment winning the House gives you subpoena power reset which is basically we have to be able to win one war while holding back another adversary and I feel like we need to keep in our mind like a quadrennial trump review and like we need to be able to fight on the Russian but even in cases where there was clear wrongdoing you're far more likely to get someone who lies about their role in it or cover something up or you know that's how these things unravel really hinge on doing everything we can to win the house agree with that and also I mean a big question to like I think there are we is it is it like an e registering voters and winning back the hasn't stuff like that that like this this is like you know the the mench fever here there's going to be something that just drops and that's going to the at and we're all gonna be able to go home we're not going to find a square cash transfer from Vlad to jared a better way to bribe through this week that would convince sixty seven senators yeah this guy's got to go who knows but I I do think though it's like it's like it's like a little bit like you have like a snowball this is such bad policy the coke brothers think this terrible policy Barack Obama thinks vase because you're locking up for life non violent drug offenders and you you we send these people win on the Russian front and right and we review yeah like and we don't want to ignore a lot of other extremely important issues are also possibly politically they turned up so so we we are hoping I think a lot of progressives are hoping for way too much out of the Russia investigation we should get to the bottom of it period it's absolutely Israel Defense Review where they kind of look at our terminal bear with me Bert Baron and it basically it's about making military's up to the challenge of what all the places like rikers island and they come out destroyed they're not human beings anymore it's also so out far like it's so outside a consensus that extends from works to like the Center for American progress that most Republicans in the Senate are in favor of a criminal justice reform all democrats are intrigued criminal dentures. 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Until I said honestly this doesn't your memo doesn't pass the laugh test and you know why did you write it how was it written was the real reason and luckily the center do you think that when when he appoints a new FBI director that Democrats should make a confirmation contingent on some sort of clarity on whether or not there three texture dot com slash crooked a better way to read a there you go poppy image it's really complicated probably only you're listening audience will be interested in kind of actually getting the distinctions there used to be an independent to say whether the tapes exist or they don't exist or whether he was just making stuff up guys you question what what exactly does a special prosecutor give you in this we find we get that special prosecutor point at which he can't appoint the deputy attorney general can appoint that individual which wouldn't slow down the investigation which would still mean that most of the lawyers working America didn't don't accept the fact that Russia massively interfered in our elections have used tools from disinformation and fake news and manipulation of the Internet in ways that are unpaid the genesis of Whitewater and a series of other independent counsel activities the Democrats Ironically Lot that law expire at the end of the ninety also law that was an individual lawyer that kind of set up their own shop there he or she would be appointed by a three judge panel that was taped conversations of of his meeting dinner with Komi or in in pledged to block it unless that happens we'd all we're overtaking right right guys no fake no fake news on the Pod I heard Tommy say state of Virginia on Pod Save the world and I was like come on man were from that a hawk nine months after the fact now we've got a reason to go after Komi and so that lasted I I'd met with the Deputy Attorney General I said this independent commission independent Council short of a whole new law being passed and signed by this president is kind of off the table that's the same any independent commission would ended up having a lot of appointments made by this president and you really believe this presence GonNa appoint truly independent people and that would put the whole investigation attorney general sessions has already had to recuse himself and the deputy attorney general could appoint a special prosecutor that in a sense get some independence from having to get every is follows and then on the Special Prosecutor the special prosecutor is someone that would be appointed by the deputy attorney general since the Shen which would be the idea that somehow the house and the Senate would again pass a law the president would sign it and my fear for folks who are concerned about this president is six to nine months before they could block it'd be stood up and for Democrats you would have the president making appointments the majority get approval from the deputy attorney general but it least gives one more layer of independence now if that was not totally confusing to your audience came to a degree as I know a lot of your listeners really want an independent commission and I'm listen I got no problem with independent commission I only say that an independent commission I apologize but it really are three separate buckets special prosecutor independent counsel an independent commission. Well first of all you don't have to worry about our audience keeping up because they are the best longest statements of any Republican and I tell you we've had some bumps along this has not been a smooth of course I'll be the first to acknowledge but every time there's been a bump because is hopefully a bastion of independence here James Comey has said he wants to testify publicly you said you wanted to testify publicly do you feel as though the Republicans approval along the investigation approved by the normal channels and the Justice Department that special prosecutor if they actually bring bring charges would still have to go in intelligence committee is one the ratio is eight two seven eight Republicans seven Democrats so it's a closer ratio than most committee second it's gotta his us because they know that after the whole Kenneth Starr thing there was a law that lapsed beyond just sort of the norm of this guy being you know trees this was all of course you gotta stay with this story every day because new things happen that was even before the president made this allusion to the potential of tapes and as we've known taking appointments the minority making appointments and I think the ratio would be dramatically less than the Democrats favor on an independent commission. I know we're getting confusing but again your audience on your committee are committed independent investigation are they putting the country I I believe many of them are I mean remember the Senate eight in when there's been some you know jostling that says hey now we're going to follow the Intel wherever it leads and we've got also chairman Verte last week is fired the Attorney General Jeff sessions who to use a technical legal term is terrible you have devin newness in the house having to step aside because keeping up and calling my office every day and texted me every day they are they are focused their their the tip of the spear so bottom and get to the truth have you talked to Berl yet about Komi testifying publicly and do you think he'll agree that Komi testify publicly I think the fact that later than ranking member but I'm not sure I think like most people don't know what ranking member means vice chair centrist and from state when you are the vice chair Commonwealth mm any student of history knows presidents was secret tapes usually don't end up in a good spot so I do think it's going to be important and I think the president will be forced in investigation was compromised by his own sort of going to the White House and being ridiculous Adam Schiff is doing great work you are helping to lead the intelligence committee in the Senate kind of you know I heard back from Director Comey that he wasn't going to make it tomorrow the daily we initially invited him I get that this is kind of a jolt to his life and three of being bipartisan third you know the Chairman Richard Burr I mean he last week when the Komi resigned are coming got fired sorry not resigned fired did one of the the Republicans on some of the Republicans on the committee like Susan Collins from Maine and James Langford from from Oklahoma and Marco Rubio from Florida Roy Blunt from Missouri they have really wet imagine he wanted to get a little bit of time to collect himself and sort through but I know Jim Komi deserves a chance to tell his side of the story and I think the American people are GonNa want well when you see some of the explanation and some of the fact that it appears that for example women and proud of the product so maybe some of the folks you guys are some of the folks in the audience say no that's not the perfect solution but this is the best option we have to get to the expertise would require data from a targeting firmly Cambridge Analytica for example is that true anything about the nature of the Russian hacks that I'm hearing about here I do too senator what thing I've heard about the focus of the Senate Intelligence Committee's investigation and said the Russian hacking is that the sophistication and chairman pro wouldn't be supportive of of testifying before our committee or some other committee I think the Intel Committee would be the appropriate venue and Convictions I wonder if they just ask jared like trump does with all these questions we'll find out we'll find out more to come on that also obviously you can't talk a lot with specificity about the investigation itself but back in March your counterpart in the House Adam Schiff said he we don't say well yeah it was interesting that those states seem to be targeted where the bots where they could tell you even after the Comey investigation saying we're going to saying to the staff both of a single staff we're going to follow this no matter where it leads we're going to get this done when I do it in a way that we can be African Americans were targeted in places like Wisconsin and Michigan where the Democrats were to brain dead to realize those states were even implies create a lot of these fake twitter accounts facebook accounts could infect overwhelmed the targeted search engines that would end up saying on your news feed you suddenly got stuff that really raises some questions and I'd I'd be I I think that's a a worthwhile area of inquiry how did they know to go to that level of detail in those kind Hillary Clinton's sick or Hillary Clinton stealing money from the State Department that's a Yoke I get the fact that the Russian Intel services could figure out how to manipulate the bots eight Russian politicians Actes ambassadors and formerly former Intel officials have died since US election general clapper's response to a question about this use the bots whether they could know how to target states and levels of voters that Democrats weren't even aware snus of the targeting is something that's being looked at closely specifically that Russian boots were targeting Clinton voters at the precinct level to suppress their votes with fake news and at that level German Burg was very supportive of bringing in Komi to testify. I think I'll talk with more today but I cannot imagine that I'm not gonNA comment on on Mr Schiff comments I am going to say I've been using more of the smoke analogy that this White House who keeps saying that from Yeah I I believe that the Russians have been successful at both interfering in I am not my first Rodeo boys it is it is ours are while you're collecting your thoughts we're doing a great job spend pennies on the dollar compared to what The United States is spending in more of a traditional sense now again I support aircraft carrier fleet we build them in Virginia but is now seen quote more than circumstantial evidence of collusion between Russia and the trump campaign do you agree with his characterization you know I I really liked that this is a new type of assault and I think you'd have to from an objective standpoint say the Russians at least in terms of their overall view eight of interference if you add up what the Russian spent in the French elections where they dumped all those emails on macron right before the the final weekend and if you presumptious really add up if you add up all the money that the Russian spent in the United States if you add up all the money they spent in the Netherlands where the Dutch hand-counted their ballots rather than machine counted because they were it's no there there you'd think they'd wanNA cooperate if there's no there there and it feels like each week there's more and more smoke house that for analogy we'll tell you we'll take it with a k. one thing clapper also said is not only our institutions under assault from without they're also under assault from within right now so you have Russia doing focus on should it be part of the investigation refresh my memory on what clapper's response was He seemed to think that the you know more broadly that we are under assault overall view of let's try to make American liberal democracy look bad has a has been pretty successful in a pretty good return on the ruble election and sewing chaos and they also obviously got the candidate that they preferred to be president and you know the one of the remarkable things is the money they'll spend trying to interfere in the German elections you add that altogether let alone maybe the loss of life on some of these officials you're talking about what this kind of international campaign against democracies and we'll obviously be threatened again in in future elections and then you have donald trump seeming to try to stymie any kind of investigation so you seem to have and I'm feeling that I'm feeling excellent so so you kind of thrown a little bit of water here on the Independent Commission we've had the head of the F. 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Two to three percent of the cost of a new aircraft carrier so I I worry at times it we're seeing this new type of warfare from the Russians that they can on any turn a at what point do we have to press a different button and and and raise raise a different kind of response you know you're doing good word and because this is kind of a whole new area and doesn't fit neatly into Department of Homeland Security or the Intel community or Dod The response I got was very unsatisfying so we need a whole of government approach on how we're going to prevent this from happening in two thousand eighteen or the Russians are going to say Aha we got a great return on the ruble for doing this all these actions Russians have done what are we doing on a government wide standpoint to prevent this from happening twenty eighteen with congressional elections in twenty twenty work leading an eye in the Senate Intel Committee but Senate businesses continuing to let me make two comments I one of the really disappointing twenty sixteen we can ramp it up even more in two thousand eighteen number one number two in terms of the president I know the that points and I made this both in the particularly in the open hearing when I asked the leadership of the Intel community all right guys you know we've seen this coincidental series of deaths I think rate a lot of eyebrows last weekend do you think this is something that we should aw on criminal justice reform is that Mitch McConnell pulled it because people like Jesse anti cotton another villain in the story where like we don't have an over incarceration problem we have in under in Carson I mean in addition to smoke national security expert in Clint Watts testified that there have been more dead Ryan testified before the Senate Intel Committee He Disney audience that's where I that's where I heard his name and he has five that there have been more dead Russians in the past three months than there are tied to this investigation they're dropping dead even in western countries and he's referring to that Yep I know you can't say anything here here's somebody who is a whole bunch of stuff and Adam Schiff quote and respond Sir you are you guys on speaker like Lester Holt yet what the pace that I'd like to see but to do this right and do this meticulously do this in a bipartisan fashion at the end of the day at the pace from your audience that we're going about is not as fast as they'd like frankly as somebody who's pretty impatient it's not always Works on everything at this point Republicans who are working with US already and many others who I think will will continue to work or will work with us if you continue to see things during the last couple of years of frankly most of the years of the Obama Administration as so in that unit unified the Democrats I'm a fearful that if we simply try to this is much more important actually than even this president this is about whether our democratic existence can be maintained in the twenty first century the Republicans who I I think will work with US WANNA work with this may not be fully there yet that gives them an ability for the rally as a team because if we look like we're simply obstructionists I remember how frustrated we all were with the constant obstruction we saw against Merrick garland and against the crap I mean are we left with either hoping that we get a few sensible Republicans in the Senate to come along to sort of demand some this accountability or that's really important and then in terms of the activities of the Senate I've I've said we should not be appointing an FBI director until we get that special prosecutor. I BELIEVE WE DOC in new FBI director you know we would need Republican votes for that because with fifty one votes they can appoint a new FBI director without any Democrats so at what point did notable areas and then the Senate investigation itself is we've Kinda gone through and and looked at the raw intelligence we've got some more follow up to do their confirming what we already the Democrat Unit Democratic Unity In in defensive what you're talking about 'cause people like Lindsey Graham or Susan Collins or or Rand Paul or any of the other people or Ben Sasse who I think would be in the buck bucket of let's just you know bring everything to a screeching halt my fear on that would be that that gives issues a a whole new area the investigation that May provide some valuable input so we're looking at this and more I need to find out whether these tapes exist number one to make sure that the preserve and three even my republican colleagues this past Sunday Lindsey Graham and Mike Lee said if there are tapes Congress is going to get a look at them so I think we're seeing movements kind of across the whole country from all parts the kind of of the political landscape there saying hey this kind of behavior cannot be countenanced and we've got a follow and get some of this stuff done like you know the special prosecutor is dependent on whether Rosenstein decides to appoint a special prosecutor it's ultimately his decision trying to all the facts out and Komi it'll be part of that I think frankly the the letters we sent to the Treasury Financial Center which called Fincen Department to kind of follow the money tapes and the Dakota firing and other activities you know they'll go back into a hey this is team sports when actually this is much more important than team sports this is just how about Russian interference were now starting to get to some of the people that were affiliated with the trump campaign we've sent out one subpoena if we don't get all the information we've requested after he'd been the assaulted by a country that at least when I grow up was our leading adversary so I don't understand about that is why we'll be sending out more subpoenas to more individuals I hope the the the first subpoena that went to Flynn will will let me say the word convinced the approach and this is this is too important then who's GonNa score short-term political points when we're talking about the fundamental character some Democrats are talked about just halting all Senate business until something happens like what's our choice here well I you know listen there many of my colleagues Oh you guys in parts of the resistance would want us to do we're just going to bring everything to a grinding halt then those against an independent FBI I don't think I don't think they will even turn against our efforts to say hey we're not gonNA confirming the FBI Director in two we get a special prosecutor or until we get existence of the tapes because those are all things that are still there is a nexus connection if we say as I know revenue going to require passing a law and then required this president who'll make appointments to a commission that I'm not sure would be truly independent but we're starting witnesses they ought to go ahead and cooperate with us but we're we've shown we're gonNA use our tools that we got Carter page is lost on MSNBC set somewhere failure relying on the president saying he's had a great dinner with president she so I would put the North Korea incident but the other incident I would put up there element of China Russia actually uniquely enough and South Korea and Japan and that's where we need a full fledged strategy rather than simply I I'm not sure Mr Page will be necessarily the final truth revealed I guess the question is what Levers of power we have what I've said from the beginning if at some point this you know this this avenues not working I'll be the first to sign up for another avenue but recognizing another that show what ability to kind of extract ransom and across the whole uk a public life. I gotTa do it right I gotta look back at the end of the day and so this product is close to possible as being bipartisan and that we got to the truth I think it's going to be reports would would lead to believe we all should be one I'm concerned too I'll get a full brief this week three short of military strikes the only way that we can rain in North Carolina North Korea is with active in the president fired the head of the FBI. I mean this is amazing I mean no FBI head has ever been dismissed and without costs because I would not call or any other people who have shown some sort of semblance of throughout this process why would it why would it why would why would they turn against the idea of an independent FBI would cause them no I don't think that they will turn the fact that he's doing an investigation the president legitimate cause to fire the FBI director. Yeah I don't think we would either so last question senator thank you so much for your time it's easy we're kind of a better chance of getting to the truth if we can do this with some collaboration cooperation with Republicans because frankly the ability to get all the information in healthcare system in a series mostly of European and Russian computer networks the asymmetrical nature of cyber threats is something that I believe ah through all the craziness trump to forget about the real even more dangerous challenges happening out there in the world over the weekend the North Koreans tested a medium range ballistic rocket premium frames not plastic here they have lots of styles to choose from Classic Trendy Round Aviator Mirrored Polarized for him in her was the email about the sunglasses recent view if the audience wants to stay up at night and Frat which I spent a lot of nights doing that was the was a massive cyber attack that took place on on Friday have them because you could use sunglasses they were tired of having to pay for cheaply made throwaway shades or overpriced designer sunglasses so they said fuck it will make our own it says screw in in the a writ large definitely ranks top three in terms of overall threats to our country and and you know we're we rely upon technology that many ways that could be spoken senators who have been working with us or might be inclined to work with are going to say Aha the Democrats are simply overreaching at this point it's much easier for them to go back into a Fox pick up the pace right now now this is an and we're starting to see obviously reactions wouldn't remember we're having this conversation today less than a week after Bruce if we've got a bipartisan approach will will you come back on and tell us when it's time to pull the fire alarm and and you no longer have confidence that this thing is proceeding in a bipartisan com slash crooked movement for how they revolutionized the watch industry now's the time to check out their sunglasses go to movement dot com slash crooked that's envy emt dot com slash crooked success of our democracy. I mean you know I I've I've said this repeatedly and I know it sounds a little hackneyed at this point you know this is the most important thing I've ever taken on him Achilles heel on that other than that let's stay tuned this week stay tune this week before we talk next time we'll we'll be a better way to cash on the Pied in-studio who host of pod save up to fight youtube don't go anywhere this is pod save America and there's more on the way positive America's brought to movement watches you guys know movement they can carry a nuclear warhead which is viewed as a major technological leap forward in their program have you been briefed on this advancement and are are you as concern these join the movement how these look good movement is a better way to see support Jeff and Andy as always used the square cash out watches it's not did it again except this time with sunglasses that surprise to me little surprise me too maybe a chance to look at those tapes us well Senator Warner Vice Chair of the Intel Committee from the Great Commonwealth thank you so much for joining us guys ticker talk about branding and whether you should be taking photos at the growth love it I haven't seen you since since another party that would be bad for branding as long as I don't have to pay your it's about John Bachelor Party Tommy now we're talking about paying something for John's Bash Party you're making this sound longtime ago you're sure to find the perfect fail here it is get fifteen percent off today look at love it's it's about to happen for him on the shipping and free returns by going to end the MT dot loud was the Jeff sessions decision from last week to rollback the Obama administration reforms on sentencing What was your reaction to that it is attacks but I decided to up the ante hair because we have an explicit rating Benedetti we caught that starting at just seventy dollars moving glasses start seventy dollars with the option to upgrade to polarized definitely want to get some voting rights people but this could be really damaging I think we we don't know what the consequences are yet because like it just happened so rosy but it's important that prosecutors even hold their came out the statement that was like polarized lenses those overpriced designer brands will upwards of two hundred dollars it's true movement figured out the by selling online they're able to cut out the middleman and retail markups providing the best possible price he's our high quality got to pay their great I did to get the email I think I think you clearly got the email that said guys let me know which sunglasses you want to send them to you all right right you have the cash out all the Russians bribing the trump officials Carter page everyone else it is the best lease annoying way to pay someone back you don't have to worry about social media door about anything else links directly to your bank account the deposit happens instantly I'm not even

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Target USA -- Episode 160 | EXCLUSIVE: Maria Butina's attorney speaks out about her case

"From podcast one coming up in this episode of target USA. I'm gonna presentative all for Russian federation here. Russian woman arrested in Washington on conspiracy. Charges Maria boot Tina was suspected of being a Russian agent. Her attorney Robert Driscoll said at the time with the process will vindicate or at the end. And that the truth will come out. Well, the truth did come out we believe in boot Tina ended up pleading guilty on this episode of target USA. Her attorney returns to answer the question. What happened? I think at some level. She was naive. He says she didn't set out to be a spy, but he certainly sees. How it looked that way? I think that they're there. She put herself there were there are enough people around who were high profile that I understand why people were concerned a why this was looked into that question. Plus why she pled guilty why he was temporarily removed from her legal team, and what happens next coming up on this edition of target USA the national security podcast. From WTO in Washington DC. This is target USA. Russia could render huge arm to this country North Korea's secret missile capable of reaching the whole of the United States dangerous. Terraced DC is repeatedly mentioned someplace they would like to see an attack criminal. America as a target on its back and on this program. We investigate the threats the people behind them, the agencies fighting them and the impact on you. This is target USA be national security podcast. I'm Jay Jay green. This is how we started our program August first of twenty eighteen. Diff- of Russian federation here Russian woman arrested in Washington on conspiracy churches, I was so intrigued because I realized I'd had a class with her. Her former classmates were stunned journalists who got to meet her were equally. Intrigued a colleague of mine, and I took Erdal on on our Tober twenty seven two thousand sixteen few was very unique. She was pro-trump. She was pro gun rights. She was already a pretty deeply into Republican circles. She already had context to the NRA, and she was talking up to a point when we said, would you go on camera with either of us or both of us and say what to have no couldn't do that Maria Latino was arrested in July on charges of being a Russian agent. But her attorney says, we think the process will vindicator at the end and that the truth will come out. A lot's happened in the eight months since she was arrested in July of twenty eight teen. And now, according to turn Robert Driscoll, she's on the brink of possibly being released within the next month and on this program, Driscoll answers, a number of questions we started off with how they ended up together. How did you come to be Maria Boutin as attorney it was an interesting story. I got a call from her when she received a letter from the Senate finance committee really earth's before the restaurant like that. But last February year ago at this time over a little over year just out of the blue. Yeah. Just literally call call picked up the phone. It turns out that she I think probably through Paul and her boyfriend they knew Diane Denman who I represented with before the hus- Intel Senate Intel and Muller investigation. I see and it which is ironic because Diane Denman is for lack of a better term, and he Russian coal warrior who had proposed arming Ukraine in her in the Republican platform at the convention. Yep. And so they remember interesting talking to her from people say took her the process in anyway, it so happens that she was asking around asking how to respond to letter and somebody new somebody today N who's told her, hey got dressed going. He was great going through it. And so I got the call. So. You got the call from her to do that to start that representation, but you know, this situation started to get a little bit more intense a little bit maybe about a month later. I am not sure how I missed this United conversation about this before because where she lived was maybe a couple of football fields away from my office. And it was a very interesting situation happened in March of twenty eighteen that we all seem to miss step is through that. I think it was April actually, April chess five for Senate Intel and then about ten days later, it was April twenty fifth. We thought Senate intimate well thought she was pretty much done. And I'm driving work at nine in the morning now, get a call and the Russian accent is on the other end. It says baba hate to bother you never bothered. So the Russian accent was her. Bobby? There's no bottom Ray. What's up? She said there's twelve if Asians that my front door a while with guns invests, and I said, well, let them and get a warrant and tell them you're on the way. And so I drove for apartment, and there was you know, the full the full is probably by the end of the day thirteen and fourteen agents going through their turning the place upside down, you know, copying chronics. And so we sat there for few hours. And that's when I realized that that there was more more than just Senate Intel looking things so a few hours, at least that's probably six hours while they were going through their searches. And how do they conductor searches were were they were they ripping a house apart, ripping things up or was it an orderly thing how do they never seen one of the? I tried to do it. They try to be professional, and I don't think they intentionally try to record anything. But I mean, they go through everything. So if you're get searched the, you know, removed every piece of clothing from her closet. They took all the Lennon's off the bed, and they, you know, take everything out of every drawer, you know. And they they try to not leave things at complete mass. But they don't put everything back where it was. So they go through everything, and then they had people on site to take the electron IX and mirror-image hard drives and phones and things like that which got got taken, and they give an inventory of what they have. And then they left six hours later, and that's what took most of the time was the technological stuff. The technical stuff. You think those both, you know, they do because she had she lived in a an apartment it was on. Replace it was it was kind of hesitate to even find any humor because it just serious situation when you get searched. But I mean, she had like the the batter of like Muffin mixture banana bread mix where literally making breakfast and the the pyrex with the wooden spoon was sitting there on the counter. And then just you know when things blew up. Yeah. So it was and I called Muller's people 'cause I seemed it was them. Yeah. They called special counsel's office and said, hey, why did you guys search replace? We we just turned over eight thousand documents to the Senate Intel committee figured, no research place. I would just give me a copy of the thumb drive. Right. And they said not us we never gonna do those DC. And so when I found out talked to the agents from counter info, and they're being directed by trains office in DC national security division. So. That was the search in March and that things calmed down after that. And I think if I remember the first time, I asked you about this. You said it looked like a Detroit auto show out there in the parking lot. You weren't sure how we all miss this. Because I think one of the reasons why is because this is right across the street from Sidwell friends, which is where the Obama girls went to school. So we were used to seeing a lot of back SUV's with blue lights on them. I was I was frankly surprised as well that didn't get any media attention. We had no need to draw any media tension to it. But it was you could see it from the street you could see her apartment from the street. And there was a lot of a lot of people there. So getting into the heart of this later on something happened in July. She was arrested in July. I think it was a weekend. If I remember correctly, but what happened between April twenty fifth and July not much substantively there to things that. Happened. Manley. One was we had two warrants that were served on her for the search was from DC one was from South Dakota and south court KOTA warrant applied only two occasions, Mr. Ericsson, which has been indicted for recently in the DC case related only to her. And so I called South Dakota got in touch with them confirm that she was not a target of the South Dakota investigation. And we were trying to make arrangements to have our interview with them under limited grant of immunity, just kind of take least that part of it off the table for that. I kept repeatedly calling DC in San asking. Can we get together with Artie ahead or testify before Senate Intel? I think there's all explainable is not fair issue is not registration issue. You need explanation may the documents. Let me know, please, let's range something to get together and talk this through and I tried two or three separate times. And basically got message that we'll talk if we need to and we never were able to have a conversation with attorney's office and then the arrest came out of the blue okay step is through what happened. There was she. Did she call you when it happened is you have time. How did that have? I was called by her boyfriend, Paul Erickson, basically, she had graduated in may from American with her masters degree, and she was gonna move out to Paul's place. In South Dakota that rented a u haul from place in DC at box everything up and they're were leaving that Sunday. The fifteenth believe it was and sometime middle of the day. Maybe newness I was driving somewhere, and I got a call from Paul, and he said the FBI just came in arrested Maria, and it's point again called special counsel's office to see them. It wasn't called DC confirm was them. It was and went down to the Washington field field off. So the FBI. Okay. So how is she doing emotionally at that time, mentally what was that situation? Like the first couple of days on. Anything like this? I think traumatic for anybody. She she was in a bit of a panic. You know, she's still under civilian clothes and all that stuff and she was in a sale at the Washington field office, and I met with her for a couple hours there, the FBI gave some time explain to her that she was going to be in jail at least overnight of a couple of days before we get in front of a judge. And there was some chance that the government might move to to keep her in custody. You know, we talked about calling her parents and doing some other things, and then we we asked our asked the FBI if they could just leave her in that holding cell overnight 'cause on weekend arrested. You gotta go down central cell block, the D C jail, which is a little bit grim. I've heard about that only sandwiches and. And cockroaches. Yeah. It's and you know, metal grades sleep on and all that stuff in multiple people Sam sale, but she ended up being brought to center cell block that Sunday night when we got her out Monday morning for the initial detained hearing, you know, she would've played guilty the OJ murder to get out at that point, you know, issues very upset, but we've actually went through hearings where you know, we we lost. We tried to get her out on bond and shoe Vangelis put into the D C jail where you know, the filling the DC jails not going to be Shangri LA, but it's much better than central. Cellblock? Those leash since normalcy. They're not really used to having kind of high profile people. So she had a like an whole intake unit to herself for the isolation shoes in there. But you know, they they did their best in and she was treated pretty well there there. About a month. Yeah. So that's my next question. And this the situation in the jailhouse situation did come up that prompted her to be moved. She had to be moved to Alexandria Virginia. What brought that on? I still don't know. It's been kind of a learning experience for me that there's a lack of transparency on the judicial side of these things when someone it handed over to custody of the marshalls. So I mean, literally the night she was moved. I believe it was a Friday night. I got a panic. Call from her from Alexandra jail at midnight on a Friday night saying that she'd been moved in the middle of the night. She had no understanding why what was going on. I I didn't either know untold, which we're gonna be moved. An I still haven't received a reason why she was moved. I think it's up to the marshalls to house or wherever they think is best. I know Alexander is a, you know, in general good facility, they keep a lot of high profile people there, not not unusual for federal detainee to be their retrial. But it no one ever told me I could never find out. So it wasn't anything to do with her physical condition because I, you know, one of the things that the Russian embassy and people from things the Russian consulate or Harvey wanna term it. They were visiting are fairly regularly, and they were complaining about the conditions and her health. So you don't think that had anything to do with it? It might have you know, I think it's all. Always you know under the Vienna convention, the Russia's a consular access country. So they get notified when Russian nationals detained and they get to visit her fairly often, which they've done a DC continue to do in Alexandria in DC. She was having some problems relating to an arthritic condition. She hasn't one leg which was exacerbated by kind of the cold of the cells. It's kind of funny. It was like a hundred degrees out of the time. But apparently, very cold day Seon. Yeah. And so there were some complaints about that from the Russians. I think that I don't wanna say the Russians complaints were invalid because they weren't. But I think that. Maria was in are not atypical of a general detainee in DC jail. I don't miss you treated any worse than the average. I think people sometimes and aren't familiar with the system are a little shocked. Let's see what the conditions are say what you want to say about the validity or not of their complaints. They were persistent about it because every single day after maybe I the first couple of days, it was something about Maria Boutin o- on the Russian foreign ministry website. In fact, they even swapped out the picture from the flag to her. And and and they did and they referred to. They these pretty loaded language, they referred, torture and things like that. Which you see anything like that going on not that I would consider I think what they were most complaining about were that I mean under some international standards solitary confinement for over fourteen days as viewed as torture assume, that's what they mean when they? About torture. United States is kind of very unusual in our aggressive use of isolation for prisoners generally most places in the world. Don't don't do it. And don't do it for more than a couple of weeks at a time. The other part that was unfortunate in DC was shoes. Under a because she was alone, and they had her under a generalized particularized reason kind of suicide watch kind of protocol the way the implementation it was they flipped on the lights every fifteen minutes to check on her at night. And so she went good two three weeks without really ever getting a full night's sleep. And I think that can be pretty exhausting, but I don't think any of that was intentional or directed by the government necessarily. I think that there's just, you know, jail implement their policies as best they can another situation developed once he was moved to Alexandria. And this one involved you, and this was really kind of it seems sketchy, you know. To be honest with you, it seemed kind of odd to those of us watching not really knowing what was going on. And in this particular situation, regarded supposed- interview or something that she did in jail with reference to reporter after judge Tanya shut can had imposed a gag order. So what was that about? How did you get mixed up in that? Because we after this situation next time she appeared in court, at least what we saw a little bit later. The judge appointed another council, right? And there was some suggestion that you had somehow been involved in this. Yeah. This this is I can I can tell you what happened is less. Lot less exciting than it. Seems the article is out is James Bamford who you may have read wrote an article about Maria James new Maria about a year before any of this happened, you met her foreign policy workshop or meeting or something he thought she was interesting. And so he started to an interview any of you process right article about her before around the time of the Senate finance or the Senate Intel committee investigation, and so they met for a few times for lunch yet on the record converse. Stations with some hours tape, and he was in the middle of preparing this article when she was arrested. And so then she was arrested, and there wasn't a gag order in place for while he visited her in jail. Couple times talked to her took calls from our from jail. And then the gag order was entered and because Maria knew him was kind of friends than before this. I didn't wanna cut off all contact completely. Because Marie is you know, obviously, kinda lonely can't go home that often doesn't have that many friends in the US. So I had a conversation with Maria and Bamford at separately. They continue to talk. But that everything that happened wants to gag order placed was off the record not pub- publication could never be used and they both here to that. As far as I know. And then when gag order was lifted eventually Bamford article came out. So I think that the government was concerned that if I had helped facilitate a violation of the gag order. I I'm not sure what they thought the conflict might be. But that was create some kind of conflict and incent me to plead Maria out. So with all due respect. Did you do anything? No, no, no. I didn't do still Tate. I mean because I know immediately after the. The appearance in court, and the it was all hashed out the judge you were back doing what you were doing on the beginning. It was. I think it was it's one of those difficult ethical things. I don't blame the government for raising it. I mean, the government's concern was could some from the outside look at it and say that if I assisted with an invasion of the gag order that I would somehow encouraged Maria to take a plea in order to avoid. I don't know in town is in the government and having them raise this other issue. And so my point was if there's any concern anyone's part, bringing independent lawyer for the public office AJ's, obviously been around forever, and as well respected in the court house and have Marie get some independent advice on the play as whether or not it's going to differ to play not. So he did he gave her independent advice where it was questioned about it age. It was questioned about it. He didn't see a problem. And then he was allowed to withdraw from the case that a little hiccup was resolved. But it was I it's never fund that stuff like that publicly dragged out. But there was no real problem with it. Yeah. So as a result of that situation, she then pled guilty. And if I let me just read what got here, she pled guilty. I believe that she and an unnamed US person number one, which some have identified as Paul Erickson the boyfriend. You referred to with whom she had a longtime romantic relationship agreed and conspired with a Russian government official, and at least one other person and conspired with the idea that she would act in the US under the direction of a Russian official without private. Prior notification rather to the attorney John was correct. That's what she pled to broccoli. Why did she plead guilty? Well, because depending on how one reads the statute one accepts the government's reading the statute she's guilty. She's accepting responsibility. I think that the the problem both for her and for people covering her has been drawn the distinction between being an agent of a foreign government and being a secret agent or covert agent, or spy is the government is of the view, the US government is of the view that if she did anything essentially at the direction of Alexander. Torsion while she was in the US. And that just for a moment is the Russian official. We're talking about. If she did anything on his behalf that would be a violation without registering. And so I didn't have to be anything nefarious or anything else. So if you if you take the government's interpretation of the law all the way, if you bought opera tickets for the ambassador from Japan, you were acting as his agent, you didn't register in your subject to prosecution. They would tell you that prosecutorial discretion would prevent that from happening, and it would but from a purely strict legal reading, that's as broad as they read it. And so because Maria did things like, you know, she went to Scott Walker's presidential nounce -ment, and she got an Email requesting. Hey, what what do you know about him? And she copied competed page Senate who Russian official in the garments view that act even though there's nothing confidential about a Wikipedia page was a was a act on the direction Russian. Visual inviolate law. And so there was no registration. Do do you? See? Well, yes, you do see because you're an attorney you better twenty four while and you're very good at what you do. But you do see why some people, and why in this particular case there was a lot of concern about what she was doing because of because of Mr. torsion because of his relationship vitamin Putin because of many other things that were going on. And we've heard this a few times in her case about some of the other cases that are going on including the case other investigations that are going on where essentially Russian cutouts other people who in some cases may have been even and other cases knew exactly what they were doing. We're in this country operating on behalf of the Russian government. And it wasn't a good intention that they had so you she did understand doesn't understand the situation. Correct. They were referring to is. Yeah. I mean, the context in which this happened. This timeframe is one of. Conflict between the two countries in is one where there has been this is what's unfortunate. And this is what the judicial system is generally to protect against is. There are certainly I think pretty convincing allegations that the Russian government interfered with the election two thousand sixteen in some way. I don't want to vote counts or anything. But there were social media Muller's indicted, some people believe what the US intelligence community said about that. Yeah. I have no reason not to and she she aware of she was she was aware at the time that there were that their allegations. In fact, she knew she sent a message torsion at some point saying that she was reluctant to go to an event because she was worried that that it would be misinterpreted in light of what had happened with the FSB actions against poltics. Was she naive? I think at some level. She was naive. Very smart. The reason why I asked the question very sophisticated. But I think that you know. I think that they're there. She put herself there were there are enough people around who are high profile that I understand why people were concerned a why this looked into. And I think that you know, she I don't think she I mean, she certainly not a spy, and I don't think this case is anything to do with the kind of broader Russian narrative, espionage. But I think it doesn't matter with that. But I think that she. You know, I think that that given the narrative was going on things she could have done things differently. She would have. So basically do think she was careless. I it's hard for me to say careless. I'm not sure how I would, you know, I think violent to Russia and was know. Yeah. I'm not sure how know what the laws would be. I mean, I think that that probably she was ambitious. She's trying to make contact with people. She was trying to kind of build up reputation on both sides the ocean. But you wouldn't say she's arrogant. No, no, she's knowing what she knew. And how smart he is. Now wouldn't issues issues arrogant about it at all. I think she was I think a lot of issues idealistic. I mean, she was kind of. I mean, it's kind of almost humorous if you read some of the stuff with her trying to set up the dinners with mister O'Neil and others, you know. I mean, I'm sorry. I mean, even really good twenty something year old grad students, not going to bring peace to the world. And this is a reason why asked the question I spoke to some of her classmates at American University, they said to me from the very beginning. At least one of them. We wondered why there's twenty nine year old woman who has multiple degrees in entry level. Class at American University. And this this all their knowledge with their suspicions coincided when she was arrested. This is the reason why you the questions about naievety, you know, carelessness or air again's. No, I think it's of the American situation arose the way, we're as often arises, I think she wanted a way to to be in the US and be with her boyfriend for longer periods of time. And also just to get what would be viewed internationally as a more credible degree, her masters degrees from Russia from all ties state university, which you know, doesn't mean much if you're outside Siberia. And so she wanted the degree in the US. And so, you know, that's all that's really what she was doing. She went to all our classes and did. Well, so I don't think it was a cover for anything. But it's again, I think that that she's learned from learn a lot from this. And she's she's. I think going to be a lot more careful in the future. So speaking of the future last thing here, she's about to seems to be finished with this whole process. We were in court. Today's March fourth twenty nineteen we were in court about a week or so ago and the judge said during the process that she has served. A great deal of substantial. I think was the term she used amount of the time. She would likely be sentenced to when she is sentenced. So you get the sense that she will be. It's possible that she'd be sentenced to time served and then set home I'm looking for wood to knock on as I say that certainly we we've argued we've argued for time served. It's up to the judge the judge can do whatever she would like we've argued time served. The government hasn't taken a contrary view. They haven't actually adopted what we've said, but they haven't proposed another number. You know, a lot of Americans would find that. Very surprising consider considering all the attention that this right? But I think at the end of the day there there is, you know, she's taking responsibility for felony which is a serious crime for failure to register before she undertook activities. But by the same token, if you're going to the standards, we would any crime. You know, there's no financial loss. There's no physical harm to anyone. There's you know. There are plenty of crimes Merida's cents in the range that were arguing for it's not it's not the the worst crime ever happened. And certainly she suffered reputational in, you know, done for seven months, she's been in isolation. So she's suffered enough. What about the the boyfriend is she cooperating against him? This is just a lawyer loyal thing of mine. I'm not trying to be a vase of what I always say is when I'm in clients that our cooperation is you're not never cooperating against anybody. You're telling the truth is that what she's doing, you know? And so she agrees to tell the truth about what she knows they still a couple they they still talk. And I mean, I it's hard to find what a couple is. When one of them's incarcerated of the other ones under a Dighton. I'm not sure when they'll be in the same physical location again. But they certainly have a relationship and talk, and I think, and I think that when she was with for a long time, and she has an appreciation for him. Okay. Is she going to be swapped for somebody? I have not heard that. But I would presume would be the last to know. I know there are couple of Americans that are in Russia right now in, you know, some of the speculation is that Paul Whalen, for example, is you know, he's getting slow walled by the Russians. So you nobody said anything to you about any of that. No one has mentioned anything to me about that. But I've been following it probably close as you have. And I noticed that when our last status conference was set for the end February his next conference was set for like a day or two afterwards. Interesting. Yes. I I I'm about the same thing happened in both of them. Right. You know status quo. Yeah. I think it's. I don't know if there's a little bit of gamesmanship or signal sending being being done by the Russians, but it wouldn't shock me for which is the broader question about applying these foreign agency laws to civilians who aren't members intelligence services. That's the risk is you get into tit for tat with countries around the world. That's bob. 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"Had a new authors building a loyal readership. We'll talk about it on this episode of the mind al-tv podcast yet another episode of the mind. Dog tv podcast. I'm matt napa. Thanks for coming. It's great to have you here as always We visit another episode of meet the author. Except we've already met the author so is their return episode of Meet the author. I guess and ed green is back with us and we're gonna talk about His latest book. And and then we're gonna just gonna have a casual conversation about wherever it goes I have a lot on my mind this morning and i want. I want to talk a little bit about first of all. The steele dossier is trending on twitter. Why because during the merrick garland confirmation For attorney general John cronin senator. John cornyn from texas brought up the steele dossier. Why what does that have to do. With the attorney general well conan wants garland to commit to investigating Be a phony steele dossier. Now i want to say something about the steel here. I know something about the steele dossier. Because i've actually read all of the parts of it where most people who comment on these kinds of things never read the actual documents. I also know something about the veracity of the claims in Be still today. Because i follow things very closely. And before anybody ever heard of the steele dossier hope hicks who was donald. Trump's most loyal confident of than like pence and Probably even more. So than mike pence in some ways she testified before the senate intelligence committee. really early in trump's presidency. Long before anybody even heard the words steele dossier and she was asked about Access hollywood tape. You remember the access hollywood tape. That's the one where Trump says Grandmother pussy now Bet came out in august of twenty sixteen right before the first debate with hillary clinton and At the time of the day after a came out trump campaign was in defcon. Five more trying to squash the hollywood access tape the access hollywood tape about grabbing by the pussy now hope hicks goes to donald trump. At that point she testified this to this in front of the senate intel committee long before anybody heard the words steel dossier. She testified that while donald trump was freaking out about the release of the access. Hollywood tape she went to him and said we hear rumors that putin may have a p tape. A tape of you with prostitutes pissing In a room and trump's Immediate response to that now remember. He's in defcon five mode over the access hollywood tape. Nobody knows about the he tells her. Do everything you can to get that tape from putting get michael cohen on. Make sure he gets the tape about that. If there was no tape of trump hiring hookers to pee on a brac obama's bed in moscow that tape it and exist. Why would a guy in the middle of a crisis. Say get that tape at all. Costs tape doesn't exist. The only reason trump said get that tape because he knew it did exist. He knew the incident actually happened because of the incident never happened. The tape couldn't exist and trump would not say. Get that tape at all costs. Get michael cohen overland. Make sure he gets the tape. That's a fact that came out long before anybody knew about the steele dossier on most of the stuff in the steel dossier. True contrary to What the republican will have you believe it or most. It have been verified. Now they pylon like Like a talking point machine from fox news. They pile on this stuff. About the the dossier was funded by hillary's campaign. It was funded by ted cruz campaign It was the origins of it. And they used the steele dossier as the initiation of the russia of a probe and all that stuff The actually had absolutely nothing to do with russia. Probe was started by papa dopplers aka coffee boy bragging about the russian dirt that russian dirt on hillary clinton in a bar drunken bragging about being overheard by Investigators so that's where it started from the whole nonsense about the steele dossier napping through and still dot ca Not being verified bullshit. Gop bullshit and republican party is is off the rails Gas lighting america full of shit and most shameful organization ever in the american Body politic just that simple And they really need to rebuild. And i've been saying this for a while. And i am a big proponent of we need a strong republican party in america we need you know. I'm not a big fan of the two party system. But i'm far less fan of a one party system and so if the republican party is just going to go down this sewer of lies and bullshit kill all the trust and cater to the worst element of society thinking. That's who they need to survive. They're going to fail and america's going to be worse for. We need a strong republican party. We need both parties to be shrunk in this country and i know the left celebrating the The demise of The republican party And the further they dig themselves into this hall of nonstop bullshit on. But it's not a good thing for america and even if you even if you are a die-hard democrat you don't wanna see. The republican party just become completely dismantled. Because it's not a good thing for america. Enough about the steele dossier also wanted to talk a little bit about this Jimmy want wanna talk a little bit about cancel culture and how i got sucked into it Recently over the crystal. Not even sure if that's exactly how you pronounce the name. Comedian al slash. Who sometime last year was outed as Grooming underage girls for sex. I mean meaning fans who are under aids He would Text message with them. Keep him around and till they became of age and then have them and so he was for better lack of were d platform by a bunch of very angry feminists comedians. I guess anyone into therapy and he produced a video last week with which was meant to be an apology video and basically he still is maintaining that he's never had sex with an underage girl which but he admits that he had sex a lot and that he basically considers himself a sexual sex at Somebody who is just the insatiable and he's been working on that in therapy. Whatever don't know the guy memory even heard of them before the scandal last year where quote scandal last year where he Basically was outed as having text messages According to him he returned text messages of girls. If they told him they were underage he would just keep them hanging around until they were of aids and then wouldn't have sex with him now. that's not against the law. It's not something that is in my view. All that bad. And i know i'm gonna take a lot of heat for that You know it would be worse if he were having sex with minors. According to him and according to even the people who are making the allegations he waited which to me would be something we would want to encourage people to do. I mean not to keep them around. Groom them But at least he had the decency to wait and not have sex with underage girls. Now let's say. I brought this up yesterday and comedian Refused to comment on facebook about it. Because i want to understand where this whole cancel culture stuff come from and why people will go after somebody like him again. Never had sex with underage girls Message them go after him. But the rockstars from my era talking every rock from the softcore rockstar the eagles which was a very soft pop to commercialize banned Brag about it in the history of documentaries and talk about a handing out buttons Two girls in the crowd underage girls to have them come back to The hotel rooms vip for the after party now. Every member of the band was giving it a certain amount of buttons to Invite a certain amount of of girls per concert back to the room but they brag about openly brag about as if it's no big thing. This is the eagles. This is not motley crue. You can imagine what was going on with motley crue. I guarantee you david lee. Roth has had hard core sex with more groupies young girls from the audience. Then leah even could possibly have texted in his entire career thousand one. I mean i. I know van halen back brokers. I know somebody who was a for van. Halen i know there There After parties and their concerts were Filled with you know all about just fishing for young girls fishing for young girls in the car and we still celebrate them. So it's confusing to me like why they go after. I'm christopher steele. I'd never heard before before the scandal. I'm sure he's a popular comedian. But i never heard him why. Go after that guy in isolate him and and and believe me. I know it's not isolated but it is selective where they just being selective of who they go after meanwhile we still celebrate. The rockstars of my generation and their careers are still going strong. Reputations are still strong. Even with all that i've got to bring it in. We'll talk about this after we talk about his book. I'm gonna get his take on cancel culture. It's confusing to me but a comedian friend of mine who Throw it on facebook responded. Like how dare. I even broach that subject on social media. It's too dangerous now too. Dangerous to talk about with a sincere interest in learning about it and becoming more enlightened and understanding about it too too dangerous to have that discussion on social media. That says something about our society and where we're at with free speech and the fear. That isn't something. I'm not afraid of being platform now. Somebody can cancel my podcast. Cancel my platform. Take me off a facebook. Take me off of youtube take meal for twitch and every other place where on. If i'm determined i'm going to get my voice out there. I'm going to build my own platform So i'm not a big proponent of crying cancel culture just because you lose your job or somebody takes you off of their platform if capitalist society But we're going to talk about that. I'm really confused about cancel culture and why whites it thing and why. It's a selective link and where we always it really confused by it Before i bring. Ed and i'm gonna talk quickly. Talk about a sponsor today audiobooks now. 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Ed is the author of more books than i can count or more books than you can shake a stick at and if you're the kind of person who wants to shake stick at books you you might have some kinda something going on between the ears that you need to look at. But he's written many many books and his latest is called Delta dawn please open your ears. Open your minds and welcome back at green mind. Tv podcasts and welcome back it. Looks like in muted at see there again day ago. How are you buddy. Get how you doing. I'm a little frustrated as as you could tell opening The other thing. Before we get into your book i the other thing i wanted to mention in the monologue Clarence thomas is Trending on twitter and the reason. He's trending on twitter because of his decision Oh his Descent about The the incivility and all that stuff and they're basically basically saying What what he's saying is that just because of lack of evidence. Oh it's about the voter fraud thing. He's saying lack of evidence of a crime is not a reason not to prosecute. The crime will convict somebody of the crime. Basically the fact that there's no evidence of voter fraud Whatsoever is not Enough to not to say we can't charge somebody with voter fraud and Nick negating election based on claims of voter fraud because lack of evidence is not a not a good reason. And that's a supreme court justice Basically saying just because ed. There's no reason no evidence that you've committed murder that's no reason that i can't charge and convicted of murder So this is clarence thomas. Capricorn time for for for the judge ago I'm sure is a nice nursing home where we could probably but pubic hairs on coke cans and freedom to them all day long and it will be just fine But i just wanted to include that. Because i forgot to put that in the in the opening monologue. Thanks to bear with me through your wallet. I wanna get some of your thoughts on that. But first let's talk about your book and the book is called Delta don now I have feeling that It was at least inspired by is a tiny tucker or helen reddy. Who whose song it was i. I know they both had a hit with it but The song delta on do you know who who's who saw tun charter first thing in nineteen seventy two thirteen okay. So it was. It was the book somehow inspired by that. Yes it's actually yes. I've loved that song. I've loved it my entire life and once i started writing he just popped in my head one day and i realized you know i think that would make a great story in. So y'all check me a year of contemplating. It took me another eight months before it began. I was scared obscure globular song. Right right and You know she's forty one in her daddy's because a baby but so that the ins correct me. If i'm wrong here now the book the story takes place in minnesota yes since she lives in brownsville in the song i kept getting images of the delta itself in areas that look like the delta. I began researching for brownsville on the mississippi. Somewhere and up in brownsville minnesota. The mississippi river runs next to the town. And actually when you look at their pictures it looks like delta down in mississippi 'cause when i yeah when we think of delta and we think of You know the riverboats. We think of more towards the southern part of the mississippi river not necessarily in the northern part so i always thought delta dawn was probably Louisiana girls something or In the birth family is from louisiana events. Were they flayed during the time of the vicksburg banal. Her father mother them all leave in vegas head north to get out of the battle in his diet. The died in the book. Settles on brownsville Reminds the delta. Gotcha you know one of the problems with having authors on here to promote their books is being a teasing book enough that people will want to buy it and read it and buy it and read it and not giving away too much. That they don't they don't need to read it and bhai. Now they know the whole story. So i don't want you to tell the whole story but give us a kind of a synopsis teased. That is gonna make somebody go to amazon today by the book all the saw we know that at some point she satisfied lives by the way the song goes. And so what i did was i broke down in. I basically told her life of why so sad and what happened to her. Because of the song it sounds like she's not at all there is so you've in the book you're gonna find out why she's not there all cool Yeah i think i. I think you're right. Always kind of wondered about that in the bucket. Because you know first of all. I think a tied for somebody in my generation in today's world to kind of relate to a young girl natty younger. A girl who's in her forties still living home with the parents and And she's forty one in the daddy so calls a baby that whole thing but that was a big part of the southern life and the southern belles kind of is. They were pampered in a lot of ways and Princesses in their daddy's is and all that kind of stuff but relating to that period. I did wonder like what's going on with this girl. She's forty one years on a kind of dependent in a way so yeah. I did wonder about that. So you cover you kind of create that in the book. Yes you're gonna meet her family before she was born in. It's gonna go all the way to forty one and you're gonna find out happened to her why she turned out the way she did. It is a love story so right in the song she meets the drive with a stranger and so is a big section on our love story in what happens there but yeah it's it's funny is out tell people are tiny song. Delta dawn realize only lavar generation and somebody somebody in the ban with actually Came it said that you know. That's a helen. Reddy song. And i said no. I think tenure tucker Had the hit. I do you know if tanya tucker wrote it is 'cause she was a a songwriter to now. I can't remember the name of the men. I've got it in the book. I bet you down. But men rodents in one of the mandate helped. Write it actually. Based the song on a girl he knew. And it's it's basically a true story of someone that this guy knew growing up and so there really was a delta. Wow that's interesting stuff Have you have you thought about even sending a copy to To tanya tucker reached out onto other media. I've actually sent an email to them to our company words. I gotta responsive they were it. But that's it. I've got no backing you on it. So my plan is figures. Crawl am happy to oklahoma here in may july thirty first. She's gonna be playing at a know about an hour away. Wow it so. My goal is figures crosses the by ticket in the present a bookstore in person while good luck with that. We'll support you with that in in that any way we can. I mean if the if you can think of any way we can help you with that. I would definitely Support you in that effort. I think it's it's. It's a cool thing to do. So i have a url for breaking rules publishing that common and it Where they can get the book they can also get it on. Amazon link is in the description so that breaking rules publishing dot com slash bookstore that html you could just breaking rules publishing that communist linked to bookstore on the top I'm not sure how if you're even aware of this but because meet the author is running episode type that we do during the day in complete play list of successful and up up and coming in an aspiring authors. You come up a lot in the discussion. I bring you up a lot and be and it's because i follow you on social media and So i like to present issues that authors facing two extremely successful office people who've really have made a great success adamant to say. How can we help. And one of the concerns. I i've seen you express at least i at least once maybe more than once. Is this idea of being frustrated with growing readership and that stuff. So are you aware. First of all that. I bring you up often to successful offers authors and talk about What we can do. What young our or beginning. Authors or aspiring authors or people who have yet to build a solid following what they can do to actually improve their following and readership. The are you. Add that that i talk about you. Actually i'm not but i definitely appreciate it well And so i. I wonder have you have because it seems like sometimes you get really frustrated and lose patience with with the at. Do i have that right because i know it's a frustrating game. We you put all this work into it. You put it out there and amazon. And then you see your numbers and while i'm not jk rollings yet Wh you know. How can i be more successful. I know it's a frustrating game but added found some peace within and patients to understand it takes a long time the bill bet. I'm trying. I constantly remind myself why people that start a business. They're looking at an average of five years before they ever see a profit right my cousin. She's a successful author. Chuck her five years before she started saying anything. So yes i'm having to constantly remind myself to be patient. Take a breath because it does get frustrating because there are times i spent eight hours. A day nonstop marketing. And so were you span. Let's say thousand hours this month marketing and you so would book it. It becomes frustrating depressing because like all this work all this work all work. But i just keep reminding myself that all this work is giving me a solid foundation right because i know now that was. Somebody is curious or wants to. You know who is at all they gotta do. Is google me and everywhere so when you talk about the marketing things what kind of things do you do because I'm hearing and i think it makes a lot of sense to me. Is that most of the people who are finding some financial success in writing are building a community and by building a community. I mean Not just having a facebook page where you kind of invite friends in and get them to know you but mailing lists you know re correspondence all that kind of stuff. Special events for the people loyal fans. Do you do any of that stuff. And if so how how do you what to what extent the special events i wish i could say doing but we're still unlocked down to where you can't go new book signings or anything like that. It's making it quite difficult actually to be with the public on one. So right now basically. It's all social media. Got my ear jape channel. I make sure that anybody that responds respond back a dodge these people and then at that time also like is many podcast as they can. I just got my first bookstore which way to go. Yeah so You know. I've got my foot in. The door is just that door has fully open yet so i just have to remember you know on now. I'm already been at this officially two years right and when i look back at everything of accomplished so far need to be proud of that because that's a lot i've got a lot. Here's no question. You've written a lot of books. I mean. go to your amazon page in a more than most authors and more than some who've been at it for thirty years so yeah i would say you have done a lot in a very short time now contained in by self contained. I mean you do your own proof reading editing. Cover design all that stuff. Yes i designed everything. I do it on myself. I'm broke. I can't afford that three hundred dollar editor. I can't afford that two hundred dollars book cover designer mine so i've been in since high school and so designing book covers a breeze for me. There's not that might end up the editing. Thank god for microsoft and a lot of these programs because if it wasn't for them. I see i missed a lot of things at times so i know i. It's also contained fully right and you know proofreading yourself and editing yourself can be very difficult and i think it's a real challenge for. I know i've tried it and then handed it off to somebody. Just not a professional editor. Just a friend who for proof reading while you missed a lot of mistakes. Because i could take out strikes. I can ride a book. listen. I'm lucky i can finish it in two months but it still might take me to reach gesture proofread in it right. Yeah and the problem with that is. You've seen it so much that the mistakes disclosed globe flow by without you even really noticing. Because you've been conditioned to a reading you know it's like a musicians who are working on a song over and over again and this is something. I'm i've been really Thinking about lately people just worked at work something to death and you be you lose your Critical hearing than to to what you're actually working on and don't pick up a lot of the things because you've heard them so so much. I think that that is true in the writing as well. So Yeah i'm glad to see that You know at at least your your mood to her. Because i worry about it when i feel like giving up on facebook. I'm like no no. That's that's not. I hate to see somebody dream. Get crushed by the reality of the business of dram. Yeah it hasn't i. I already knew ahead of in advance that this is not an easy road. Go down you know. It's what you know. What your experiences. Two different things right. And so i do get down and it's i'm starting to see that it seems to be common amongst writers. Yup depression seems to follow us. I think everybody in the creative arts and so to that Are you part of any author support groups. Like on on. And i know people think that. Sounds like a like a Aa type thing. It's not what i mean like a twelve step program. I mean like us on facebook. There are authors supporting authors and that kind of stuff Kind of share your frustrations with them and talk your way through all that stuff. Because i think that's important so that people know they're not alone in this journey right. Yeah i'm probably one hundred fifteen different facebook groups so they'll be times that i'll share my frustration or you'll see a lot of author sharing their frustration and so we'll reach out to them at times. You know like welcome to the family. But it's just it is what it is and but it's really the frustration. I'm starting to see the most is when they get that i give I mean at that point. You literally think that this authors crashed and burned and that's it you'll never see him again and you gotta help each other realize it's just part of the game. This is the hardest thing for creative people to Deal with and you can get a thousand positive reviews that one negative one will stick with no matter. What your endeavour is creatively whether your music acting making writing whatever it is That one negative review will outweigh thousand positive reviews and along the way. And it's something we all need to deal with. What do you do to kind of Deal with that. How do you deal with it so far. I've been lucky lama reviews but chandler have been five star reviews why my only to negative reviews came from no joke gals that ran two different facebook sites and they contacted me one day because of my purse. Instead mike book cover was not professional enough to be on the side they wanted it removed. And so i contacted him back and ask what i asked. What song pressure about it. Because right now and above four hundred bucks. I was in the top twenty four for cover of the month while these checks instantly turned around way. Too good reads found the book that we were discussing in posted. Negative reviews started attacking me And so if you read my books and you give me a negative review. I can handle that good with that but you don't read my books and you just wanna give me negative reviews despite. I can't stand that. That's high school bullshit in his should stay in high school. Well i. I'm glad you brought that up in a way because i was gonna ask you about that because what i see and i talked to people in creative arts all over the place i do talk to a lot of authors but i never thought that the pettiness that i see in musicians who were competitive or Comedians were competitive. There's a lot of pettiness backstabbing spiteful. News and all that stuff. I didn't i didn't think authors had that because often generally seemed like a much more supportive creative group so but what i'm hearing now it is kind of saying well no not always. It's the same yet. Most of us were trying to help each other support each other. But i'm starting to see if these one at b. authors who i'm an authors have written anything yet but author and it's like they're just out there causing chaos by. I'm not the only one. I have seen many authors crying on social media because somebody who'd never rather book to senator attack their book because they read the back of the book right. I had no idea that the literary arena would be as bloody as it is. It is i beat. It's i'm just amazed that people are willing to kill just to make sure they can get that next rung of the ladder before you right well and with regard to the cover design and i know that bothers you when you when you're going to hear that kind of stuff but I think there is some validity to not necessarily criticizing your Cover design but to walk. Bring it up constantly when i talked to artists. There's that old cliche that you can't judge a book by its cover. Almost everybody does. It is is so and i wonder if in the marketing because in conditional business marketing. We do a lot of testing and we have to be flexible. The change to see if what's working or not. Have you ever tried changing coverage to see if it improves. a book. sales or responsiveness. I did change the cover to my first book but cavern design is so i've never except for those two girls. I've never had an issue with anybody. Not like you ever designs right. No i'm not. That's not the question. The question is you did change that one. Did you see any improvement or chain to or even or did you see go backwards in in sales did it didn't affect us sales at all when you change the cover. No not not not at all somebody would be the first year. The cicadas on the cover was brady plain. Jane i mean it was just as the data some blood in an apple in the title and after a while i realize know. That's just too bland. I would really care for it. So i fixed it up. Redid it love it now. But i didn't improve the cells at all didn't decrease the sales at all either Interesting you would think it would have some effect either way. I and you know it's interesting because in marketing we are always kind of testing these things and and seeing you know what effect it did have an it to me. My thinking always been a cover can make or break the sales of a book and i know it was more prevalent when we were brick and mortar for books walking around barnes and noble in the mall and that kind of stuff rather than on amazon with the covers are generally like real like postage stamp size. When you're looking at them anyway so it's really hard to tell them. But i would think it would have some effect on sales but i'll i'll also bookstore in. I'll just kind of looking. If thank the cover catches my attention up. Pulled out redac- just be curious. So yes. I'm one of those that You know gather jabber might not make good luck in a sense. The book but the covers gets night When when you writing a book Do you want to the people who kind of and i i know. It's a common want desires to see a film. A book made into a film. But do you kind of picture it as a film when you're writing what what is your You know your modality of writing you visual are you. Are you a word auditory guy. What what is your modality thinking when you writing the book movie wiser. Thank you to be again mary. I usually don't deal with that until after the bucks. I finished and then i'll think bigger movie or not but when i'm writing these bugs i'm a visual person. I can literally step into the scene. And i'll look and i can literally see everything around me here. The wind there's the birds and so yeah visually. I'm really good at weill pretty close. So what is your physical process. Now are you a guy who outlines the story i do. You have like post it notes all over the place and character ideas or you guys who just start with a blank page and stuff. I'm usually i team. S got the beginning. And i've gone the end and your mind or written down in my mind. Already yuzu when i came up with an idea usually the beginnings there in there's so you know you any outlines at all the only thing i do what i also here's i make cheap notes because of dates birthdays time seasons right. It's all have a cheat now next to me who's dating. Who who's did he married. When were they born. And so i do have that but i do not line out. Let's go from a to b to seat. Now i again. I want that book to breathe in talk on. Its own right. And what about character development. Do you rely on Because it's different for every author and it sounds to some people. Sounds like these are redundant questions. But i know that it's different for every author Do you rely on mixing people personalities you've met in life to come up and develop characters. Yes they're in man my books i remember something somebody said or joke or an incident and i'm thinking that will really get right here so yeah i will bring everyday life into my books very cool And so delta. Dawn is the book. That's out now. Are you working on anything. New or Would just gonna concentrate on marketing. This book for now. No actually i am working on something new marketing delta but right now i'm working on my next book called seventy times seven and basically it's about a girl who she ends up get she a bad live really bad but she ends up getting say while her mother's dead she decides she wants to save her mother and so she hears a rumor that there's an alleyway that back goes through hell and she's gonna take this alleyway. Get your mother. But every time you show any kind of fear or down or anything like that. She has to start all over. Rebecca hells gates excellent insensitive. Keep going and reliving her life and she's trying to get her mom wow That sounds like a powerful story. Now you up in a bible belt. I'm sure you rounded by all sorts of religion and religious groups That that upbringing Playing this novel at all will the religious right. Yes i was. I was raised in. The church is far back as i can remember and even i went on my own for years so the church if you read my books. There's actually a lot of religious into my books. Yeah you can see satellite that i the i'm waiting for the church to read it because we're going to be pissed again. I'm glad you're going here because you seem to be kind of anticipating my next move here. 'cause i wanna talk about as you probably heard the insurance talking a little bit about cancel culture trying to wrap my head around Why people why certain people targeted by these groups who wanted to shut you up sent to you in some way and not understanding where the selective process comes in does it d- in first of all I don't know how well versed you are in what they call and cancel culture but if you are at all know of any Authors who've been affected by because it seems to be a lot of comedians mostly And politicians and people like that but those two groups Comedians politicians mostly and other than that. I'm not seeing it on the music side. I'm not seeing on filmmaking side. i'm wondering if th is it happening authors. And i just not aware of it not to my knowledge but like i said my first book is so controversial. I'm expecting it. I'm expecting them to come after me because it's out there but to haven't now it's just i think it's because the books not out there yet will known torn enough people of rednecks. Well that's that's true. Staying under the radar is one way to to avoid. But i'm expecting if that if that bug takes off i'm inspecting some upset people. Yeah well upsetting. People is is far different from being platform door or or you know when it comes to books. I mean the only way to really deep platform and an author because today we can self published so they'd have to kind of go after amazon se ri. And i'm not encouraging this in any way police but they'd have to go after amazon. Say take that author off there and really put pressure on amazon to do something like that. that team like all burn books. Go we can go back to the dark ages and start burning books so i think it would be a little more difficult with authors than it would be would say. Are you familiar with this. Crystalline thing now Anonymous but i am familiar with. They're doing i mean it's it's really ticks me off. It's like high school all over again. All of those high school who can stop the onset who can stop trying to destroy people just to make themselves feel better now because the internet social media. They're able to expand right so to me. These are people that have nothing to do their best to be as boring l. and all they have to give his friends somebody to pick on the Still better i think in some instances i think it seems to me and i know i'm gonna get hate mail for this by the way info mine. Tv dot com. It's in the hate mail But i it seems to me. There's a lot of frustrated female comedians. That are not happy with the power that paradigm in. Stand up comedy where most of men get more attention get more opportunity still and i understand being upset about that But there is that kind of a good old boy what they call toxic. Masculinity i don't think is talking smack masculine and i just think it's fashioned masculinity coming out where these guys who are mostly hetero guys have room full of a pretty fans. They're gonna wanna bang some of them at sits away it is And and so if girls females have that same situation they could have a room full of guys. But then i'm gonna fuck all of them. They're not. We're not guys are gonna wanna do that so i think we have to understand you know the almond taliban and kinda we don't want to necessarily Stop men from being men. I and and so there's a fine line with where where does the lines of decency come in. And where where does this whole Where we're going with culture. But i think when we take somebody's livelihood away from them without due process or without really having any kind of real hardcore accusation again. Like these people like brian cowen and and crystalline people like this. This people wanna take their livelihood away from home even though they've never been charged with a crime. Nobody's come out and made a specific allegation. And if i say well i have a chance to defend themselves in court or you know faces accuser on almost all of a sudden. I'm a bad guy. Now for protecting a child rapists and like wait a minute nobody are you kidding these people have actual rape because if you are there needs to be a specific allegation you need to go to police and make a vital report right. It's it's really a confusing time for me. And when when i just wanna have a dialogue about it. People are afraid to have that dialogue. I think that's the worst place to be where we can have free speech and and educate somebody like me who obviously needs some education on your thoughts on all that well i. I'm old school. I believe like my grandparents to adults should be able to sit down share. Their opinions discussed whatever the hell they want to discuss. Shake hands and walk away friends but you know we all should have that right to our own personal opinion whether you like it or gods but once we're done we're done right. That's that's not it today right. It's like you have your opinion but you will listen by being it and they once word out. If i don't like your opinion i'm gonna destroy you right and that's what it's i this culture that i'm out to get you before you can get me. Even though you're not out to get me has i. Don't get where this spirited this fear this This spirit of destruction right it. So i don't get it. I don't know i get. I think it's a bunch of spoiled brats because at a certain toil we grew up. We got out of line. We asked us back. You know what. I'm better for it but then we reached that point. Where you can't spank. Your kid anymore will now receive the results. Your kid is basically that one. That's out to get you and they'll take you down themselves. You know you might be monitoring devastated gear either right and not to be too political here by a political element to everything i do. Unfortunately but Part of the problem for me. Is the people complain. The loudest about cancel culture Tend to do it to themselves a lot. Now i'm thinking about Republican party was heavily up against you know calling out the platforming of of donald trump off twitter. And i. i always say somebody brought up well. He's the president of the united states. How can you take Platform oil when ronald reagan abuse. Twitter never presidents never needed twitter before donald trump and president always had the ability to call somebody into the oval office. And say i want to have a prescott. I wanna talk to the american people directly without twitter and much more effective and much much more Civil in a lotta ways. Because you're not. You're not hiding behind the keyboard in one hundred forty four characters being able to call somebody a doodoo face and run away. He have to look into the camera and talk to the american people so the president always had that but when we talk the republicans have been claiming that cancel culture was a liberal thing liberals. Just want to shut up conservative but then mitch. Mcconnell says something negative about trump and the entire republican party wants to shut him up and have him thrown out of the party. Well if that's not hypocrisy. These are the people complaining loudest about cancel culture. Who want to cancel. Anybody who disagrees with their top cult leader baffling so i think that that part of it. Yeah it's i. It's like joe. I mean it's don't do as i idea but do as i say right and i think that's what i find about the republican party. One of the bad things about it is that it's it's like we're for the people by the way you know. We're not gonna do anything to help you but we're for you. You know we're going to help you going to help you. But now we're not gonna pass this. We're not going to do that. But there's are fifty thousand dollar raise. And i just don't get it dependent on these that i refuse to pick apart the best person i think or the lesser evils. Because that's what it's turned into. These days is best band win. It's the lesser of two evils. But i don't even think it so much about people as it is about issues so You know where do you stand on this particular issue. What what issues are most important to me. Now i know some people you know Gun rights is the most important issue in their life to me. That's not the number one issue in life. I do have an opinion on it. But if i did not vote for a candidate i'm gonna pick out where he stands or he or she stands on the particular issues that matter most to me And so i think that's that's the most important thing and also not necessarily subscribing to the party line if you happen to be a republican but You have ideas that might cross the party on that impresses me you happen to be a democrat and have ideas that might cross party lines. That impresses me that that at least helped me You're an independent thinker and thinking for yourself and not letting party dictate. What what you should think about anything. So you brought up This idea of civility of being able to all out openly. Express yourself and talk about any issue and at the end of it. Even if you disagreed. Share walk away at france had a lady on Last week who was a podcast hosts who incidentally happens to have been an adult film star. That was one just one part of a resume but we were talking about this and she fully endorses. This idea that you brought up is to be able to Agree or disagree without being disagreeable and being able to foster independent thinking and and this stuff by civility and understanding the other person physician necessarily agreeing with it but understanding it and giving them They're say it came to The issue of cancel culture again. Pornhub was targeted by visa and mastercard Couple of weeks ago Four not verifying accounts in some of the people who are uploading content. Where uploading stuff that were either. A depicting rape scenes or child Molestation scenes in this kind of stuff and so visa. Mastercard forced going to comply with those rules. They kind of took them off. Line for twenty four hours and she was complaining about that and i said well yeah i i get that people who are behind it though. I said i think have good intentions. What i mean by that is These are people the activists who were behind the group that was behind all of this Effort to get porn up to comply with rules that they definitely should be complying with oil. Great with that They these people had the best of intentions believing in their minds whether they're right or wrong. That point has the and the influx of point and free point internet porn has a negative effect on society. So they're trying to do something about that and she snap back at me. No these are just evil. There are christian Activists just looking at people's they're just evil people. I said well actually had that dialogue. Will you can't have a dialogue with these people. They're just able. We'll wait a minute. You would just tell me how we have this ability and be able to disagree but at least hear each other out. How does that work while you know you have to draw the line with whereas some people just you can't you can't reach them. Well jen that goes. You can't have it both ways. you can't have we. We need to foster civility and be able to disagree and still remain civil to each other and then and then while these people are just evil. I can't talk to them out. Can't exist in the same world can they. You know maybe they care but yeah she can't if you can't find your and ain't balance then at that point if it exists it's just gonna do more damage than good. Can't find that middle ground saw up. Yeah i think they can't exist but you know there's just some points. How much are you going to let it exist like you said everybody. I'm sorry everybody watches porn right. He'll do i wanna pull it up and see a child being raped. Hello but not at all. I don't think so. I agree there. They weren't trying to destroy the porn industry. They weren't trying to stop born up there. Just certain media. That shouldn't be allowed on it. That's what they were pushing for. Athletes and i agree with that. You know so. I don't know this world's crazy these days. It's like dan damned if you don't absolutely and that's a big part of it so but the bottom line where it pertains to you and what you do in writing your next book or writing future books. Are you gonna let that idea of whom i have with this. Are you going to let it affect the way you write or what you know. Man go to write my book like you don't you don't you don't have three inch wanna burn it. Go burn it but thank you for the fifteen bucks. How are you thousand of thousands that attitude that that that's the right way to be. Actually i think you know what your property. You wanna burn it here. It is but you're gonna have to pay full practice. Yeah and i think that's important. But i think what we're seeing as witnessed by my from my comedian friend. Who told me. That's just i can't have that discussion on social media because if they're permanent people no i said that's fear that that's permeating a lot of artists of bad thing for society culture in general isn't it. It is The way i look at it they wanna come after me over something. I've written come after me. All you're to do is make more people know about me. Are you going to make more people curious. More people are going to want to know what it is. I wrote more people are going to wanna read it. You're not hurt me. You might say you're hurting me. But in the long run fighting why that slide out it's going to be the mind bill shit right and that would be one of my point about the whole crystal thing too. I mean. I never heard of him. I literally never heard of them before the scandal. Now he's famous now he's world famous up. I think in time if probably gonna benefit from from this whole Effort to be at to get him At some point is gonna turn around. And he's going to be rewarded for that. Not and i'm not taking sides and i'm not you know i don't really understand the full complications of all that but i think you're right when we highlight these things when people go after them and you go after people for being dictated spiteful reasons at some you make them you give them a bigger platform you make them being amplify them more so i would l- Said it's all the time i would love somebody to try to Cancel me at least it will give me publicity. You know i run unwanted publicity unpaid for publicity which is always wanted like. I found it funny years ago. We all watched miley cyrus grind her. But on the crotch or i can't members name but later on ellen degeneres who's talking to Elton john about it by and he basically said that was the thing she ever did. They were like why are they gonna. Because everybody's talking about miley and nobody talking about anything else right. So she shirt the water. She rock the boat. And now molly sours gotten publicity across the globe. You can't pay for that. You know what what's remarkable about that whole thing and you just said i can't remember his name robin thicke in most so here. We have a woman who and blatant i know. This is going to get me. Some hate mail from women. Feminists Import mine doug. Tv dot com That she benefited from that. She got all the attention. Her career took off. Nobody remembers his name. You didn't i guarantee you bring it up to most of my friend today. Remember that miley cyrus rubbing her s. I'm on what to say. What was his name. Most people just remember. I was dead a year after that. Oh yeah. I think within months after the absolutely so. It's it's just strange how you know for all we hear about it to manuel in this in that one instance it certainly benefited her and hurt him immediately like and she was the one rubbing s on him. Interesting conversation that we are Up on our you know. We need to kind of wrap things up breaking rules. Publishing dot com is way. You want to go to get ed's books Any final thoughts before we say goodbye for today. Just want to my final thoughts. Is i know everybody suffering right now and for those that right bugs be patient because yeah i want myself increase but right now everything that's going on in the world. I can't expect people to buy book. When they don't have water. Might just be patient Valid as long as he keeps pushing and pushing wallet will get there. You know the struggle will finally eventually but just remember that yet. Your fans in your friends in your family might not be buying your books but a lot of them are just. Try to stay alive right now. 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Culper Partners Rule of Law Series: Sen. Saxby Chambliss on the Rule of Law

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Culper Partners Rule of Law Series: Sen. Saxby Chambliss on the Rule of Law

"We were really concerned that is. Other members of the committee MU is and they would be in different types of questions. But at the same time, it was such a significant issue, then if the country involved ever found out that means you what we knew what we know that it would be a major national security issue. I'm David Chris. And I'm Nate Jones, and this is the culprit partners of law special series on the law fair podcast in this podcast series. We explore the rule of law, particularly as it relates to US, national security and criminal law enforcement today. We're joined by former Senator Saxby Chambliss senators Chambliss represented the state of Georgia in US Senate for two terms prior to that he served four terms in the US house of representatives a total of twenty years in congress during his tenure in the Senate who's a member of the Senate Armed Services committee. He was also on the Senate select committee on intelligence where he served as vice chairman from two thousand eleven to two thousand fourteen his previous role as chairman of the house intelligence subcommittee on terrorism. Homeland security made him one of the leading congressional experts on issues he is currently a partner at dealing piper. And the chairman of the NFC visor the conversation covers a lot of ground from the history of the congressional intelligence community to the significance of election in your in the proper penalties for lying to congress Chambliss describes what is like to serve on the Senate intelligence committee, even mentions a particular situation, apparently still classified undisclosed that is so significant that if the country involved ever finds out what we know the result will apparently cost American lives. Senator Chambas seems most of all to lament the loss of professional and personal relationships across political lines, and he wants to stand up strongly for the hard working women men of the US intelligence community in show. Oh of true bipartisanship. He also tells us the Ted Kennedy was the best legislator. He ever knew. Still offer podcast episode four hundred into Senator Saxby Chambliss on the rule of law. So Senator Chambliss thank you very much for being here. And welcome to the culprit partners rule of law podcast. Always going to be and thanks for generating discussion on the rule of law and continue to do right word that you have always done in the romanizing scared. During your twenty years in the US congress. Did you feel as if the rule of law was sort of a foregone conclusion in the United States or wasn't instead something you really felt the country had to renew and regenerate and work at and if so did you feel like you had an obligation to live up to that ideal. Five members of congress. And and you believe in the row along you're gonna get. Percent of -firmative responses to that. But I think the. I'm sorry. What do they mean? By when they all say, yes. Mass twist. I mean, it's when you have some facts that you have to plan the wall too. Is this agreement comes in as to whether or not an issue where rural laws says, usually so so, and and I think there there's some examples. Occurred to me as is. About this. From the two exhaustion of a member of of the house of representatives which occurred while I was there in the process of Bill Clinton. The even though everybody agrees with the fact that the rule of law is what we should go bad. Democrats argued. This was not an issue where the rule of law should Lagos was not criminal of and Republicans argue just the opposite. I think the encouraging thing from a US perspective around the world is and we in four charges of. Yes. President Clinton from the standpoint remember? Moated for the most aren't force those and summer can on Democrats to so the awhile work in the way that the rule of law should were. So I had that in is a general foregone conclusion that yes the rule of law is apple in our civilian. Our our political rice. But then you get into the politics when when you have the political fast that are involved and not featured example, I guess if it didn't line up one hundred percent Republican democrat shows that people were being moved by something other than just straight party affiliation. Chummy some of the other ways, you think congress is set up either formally or informally with the committee structures or or as I say even informal mechanisms to ensure that rule of law is upheld. What what are some of the ways that that gets done incomes? We have a community system structure in the house in Senate and one of the most important committees and bodies is did you and that's where the jurisdiction of the rule of law for the most start applying new committee houses was due in it in the Senate are to most party committees in most respected by mies. Manning said there's an awful lot of partisan activity in the way of the the white the rule of law his approach from a legislative standpoint. So why you can have this agreements about policy at the end of the day because we have that community. Charter and those are second committees are charged with the responsibility of ensuring the rule of law class and our everyday. Life there to most respected committees that we have and then two committees that are wasn't too. When they deliver segma-, the members of congress when it comes to dealing with legislation that comes out of those of those committees, you know. Sometimes Republicans and Democrats in the Senate sort of come together or in the house come together to sort of gang up on the executive branch that certainly been the perspective of certain members of the executive branch from time to time we had dead John Brennan on this podcast recently. And he described a very contentious period with the Senate intelligence committee Democrats when he himself had been appointed by democratic President Barack Obama, and I know you are present for that. I mean, the lineups ever sort of go out of whack for institutional separation of powers reasons. That's kind of the nature of the world of intelligence, and you're in that process Janda sideways with democratic members of the. Senate intelligence committee and vice chairman, I became his mess friend have. John Ryan in his approach to the mess version. And there there were times when Republicans from a national security as well intelligence perspective disagrees. In a big way with President Bush particular was on these rounding Iraq. So he can happen for most of time. I would say that Republicans was for Republican in the White House and Democrats likewise. But in the end of the day, they are some situations that can know that. But Democrats opposed to ready. President. And likewise. Yeah. Let's talk a little bit about how these intelligence committees came to be where the vice chair on on Senate Intel and previously in house. I mean tells about how they came into existence, and what is it that they're really supposed to do that is so special. Our fortunate to sir, the house Intel committee my last years in the house, and then them sending many all of years and fourteen years Schrag of serving on the committee in early on that I wanted to make sure I knew this history of the committee because I was going to do my job. I like to know the background what it is. We're going to be asked to news and history into having. It is a lot more than the history of other than it is or some of which they back to the early years of Geiger's and in the late seventeen and hundreds and early eighteen hundreds the intelligence committees are a product of some situations within the intelligence community where we had an overreach by Ince's end. The personal lives of American citizens in seventies. All of that came to light as a result of several different situations became public and when. The church commission, which was as in it commission, and it was long several different commissions that were put in place at the same time, then the mid seventies their investigation, they found some real significant violations of the constitution relative to the fourth amendment. That were being carried out by some members of the intelligence community. There was no oversight of those agencies back congress vice Pacific committee that time. So that's when the intelligence committees were created in mobile house in the mid mid seventies. Which really isn't that wrong ago? And but the the committees themselves are different in the structure compared to other committees in that, for example. The make of Senate MTO committee is fifteen members. It does not matter matter how many Republicans or Democrats are elected to the Senate. The matter. News in the majority. You're going to have team members you're gonna have a of jonky party and some of the minority party in Senate, whereas on the other committees. The ratios vary depending on the margin of the majority ends. So and the other thing that is different by design about the Senate intelligence committee is you don't have a chairman and ranking member like you have on every other committee chairman vice chairman, so I was vice chairman to then chairman Feinstein for my last four years, and when that basically was and we were Coequal she ran the hearings, but in her absence Iran hearings that doesn't happen and other committees. The the next in line on majority runs here. She cannot hire find anybody without my consent and me likewise. We we share the the parties vote from a budgetary standpoint is as well as they day operation Lee. The house is a little bit different. I mean, we probably won't talk in a little more. Detail about what is happening with or saying to the house Jones committee over the last couple of years, and I say, it's different McCall's is always been much more partisan than Senator toners committing that. We had members of of the Senate committee that. On particular issues such as privacy or mania? Gms the enhance to issue we we would have disagreements, and we would have serious divisions within the committee. But for the most art on the issues that we normally don't with I- terrorism though, domestic and farmed the gathering of intelligence and the way we get intelligence. Pretty much for were all saying. Hey, jr. And we can have disagreements about some aspects of a program. But for the most part, we all agreed that at the end of the day. The most important thing is that we have to make sure that our men and women and responsible forget in the intelligence to make America say cure twos. Need to work with to do the best job that they can with him the round and and restrictions of the castigation. Yeah. Senator this is Nate since he raised the issue might as well go right to talk about a little bit. You know, you talked a little bit about the institutional protections to maintain a level of bipartisanship and exist on the Senate side on the house side, we've seen things I some people think we've seen things go off the rails of little bit. And. As one question is do you think that's attributable to the lack of those does institutional protections. Or does it also require individuals to work at maintaining that kind of relationship. Combination of all of the of. Quickly served is is somebody who's telling us with the intelligence community about what was happening known the house was personalities involved. And there was a there was a real issue between the the leadership of the committee on most is and when that happens is not going to be a very good result. And I think that's what we what we have seen when the the Russians situation developed I conversation with those underwater and some bird. Then obviously, Germany ranking champion vice-chairman Senate Intel committee and no in to hear them tall separately as well as together about the fact that this would probably the most cities as you that that would be involved in doing the tenure. Because in the end was something is basically to Americans are election process is no down. One of those as us in any members in the house to deal with. And when nobody them told me was it. We're not sure where we're going on this. But we're joining the, Yep. We're going to do all the investigating together. There's not gonna be any Republican hearings and democratic hearings and most importantly the day. We're going to produce a of that is a meaningful product. But as a product that both of us are going to be able to sound off on then didn't happen on the house. And when chairman is for whatever reason made is true of malign house where you valley was ended some documents or something and sort of got all track or as you say made all the radios they were never able to get back on the radio. And because of that the Senate into committee was immediately perc- think correct? From soon the rail Landau in the room, and ultimately see pretty much to come your relevant on the issue. That is a number one. Is you still facing the certainly in the electoral process, which is foundation of our democracy. Yeah. One one other follow up question on that. The changes of power in the house in opportunity to push the reset button on himse. Or is there? Some other way to have some adults in the house intervene to repair that relationship. What's your sense? Claim players in the game. Yeah. All you're gonna have is is you have Democrats in charge versus Republicans in charge. And I think. Has have an opportunity to show earlier. I hope they do and making restore relevancy that committee because it is so horri- likewise. I think it's going to require supervision on the part of Republicans to realize and they're not in power, which means they're not going to be able to go in the direction was going into the last couple of years, and if most sides will agree to that and most sides will exhibit really good leadership. I think there is operatives to get their house back in or but it's. They just say well you as messing so you're in last year, and we're going to go just as far in the other direction. Then you're going to see us lunar continue on that committee. Yeah. Tell us maybe you can give congressman shifts and congressman newness advice e you had a reputation when you were there as a very by part is in Senator friendly to both sides of the aisle. You've mentioned senators Feinstein and Warner in this podcast. And in your farewell speech. I believe you went out of your way to praise both of them based on your time there. So how do you do it because you know, you were able to maintain good relations with them? But at the same time, I don't think anybody would accuse you of pulling your punches on the genuine policy differences that. Agreed. So how'd you manage that one of the lessons to others could maybe draw from that in order to get things back on the rails? The Senate has always been a congenial body is designed to be a little bit different from the house, and the framers of gas station is on the house to the are charging, and and frankly more Hartson than Senate, and you know, everybody's million with all the conversations between Washington Jefferson relatives that figure is you. So goes way back, but on Senate side, you get to spend more time with individual members MacOS therefore thirty nine members of the house and their hundred members of the Senate. So just the major of that being what it is you send more time when Democrats and you spend more time with those on your side of the out too. But you become friends and most Warner and and Johnston still are my good friends, and I enjoyed working with. Always agree on everything. But we disagree. Respectfully. And and, you know, Republicans don't have a patent on all the good ideas, and certainly grasses don't and one of the Senate has always been designed to do the best of both eyes, and sinus we find that is is the best resolve rather than having piece of legislation which is fifty one nothing with anyone Democrats and over publicans vice versa. We've seen some examples of bad happening over the last several years ObamaCare being one I think. Obama had listen to. Dumes some legislation without much better. These legislations in the long run likewise attacks tankage, President Trump had passed work with the Democrats and democratic votes for some of the provisions within much matter piece of legislation. So you think you're fights. But you if you do so recycle way, Eugene and all right now for your right? Keep the respect of folks crossing on the side of the island in the Senate. You have to have them because there's times when you gotta have sixty. And it was important to me to have personal relationships. In addition to this policy relationships where I could work with the and that made it fun. It's no fun. It's no fun to get up every morning thing. Again, they want democrat make number press life miserable. The day. That's not good entity to the work. Every one does have the ceiling sometimes people in both parties are actually raking warning and going to bed at night and thinking nothing other than that in between those times. So as right. I think that is is funny David mentioned that because I think there is a perception among the general public, it seems that the partisanship in in congress, including in the Senate has gotten worse over the years. Do you was that in your experience while you were serving there? Do you think it's gotten worse since you left? Gradually worse year in my twelve years in the Senate. I had my first two years and Senator example hours on the Senate Judiciary committee cheer, the subcommittee on immigration. My ranking member was Ted Kennedy as I came back to Georgia and campaign on the fact that I were closely with Genanady get some immigration legislation fast. I would not have been reelected, but Kennedy was the best legislator I've ever seen. And I learned a lot from him. And when I learned from him was that if you wanna have a good piece of legislation the end of the day, you were when your colleague on the other side of the aisle to ensure that then you what you want. But at the same time, you're going to have to give up something that's. That's. Word compromise is a full letter words in Washington today against the way, the Senate works, and it works messed when when that compromise is injected into religiously process, so should they return to regular order an Brier application of the sixty vote rule with that health the Senate fulfill its historic you know, sort of mediating function. On a row is always been the Cam saving grace in the salvation of the Senate. Keeps ability and reason within the legislative process. And I thought when Harry my decision to go to one votes on the calendar, with the exception of supreme court justices in two thousand thirteen that was that was a terrible decision. And I thought Democrats winter regret it felt when Mitch McConnell reuse. The says, you know, regret Franko nominees. Exactly the same thing. I I just think were bad news. And I wish there were some way to get back to the sixty vote rule. It's hard to imagine that anybody who has fifty one votes is going to in the present vote to raise the number to sixty. Is there some way that we could you know, agree that say twelve years from now, no matter who's in power, we're going to revert to sixty budget, some light, you know, legislative tricks like that that might do the you the deal for us or or is it just hopeless? Will. In you're right. And nobody is in majority today is yeah. We're going to mandate sixty versus fifty one that's not gonna happen and a resolution of. The putting is far out there into the future. And like you say and see any respective who's in control of the house and Senate all the White House. Miss room was going to come back into play on certain. Yeah, there's a lot of conversation. Now among Democrats that if we ever reach intro we on a thinking about doing, well, you're not gonna get elected majority leader in in the Senate by campaigning on that platform. I'm sure. Not only are brands for this to get fixed. Sounds like nice shorter. But let's shift gears a little bit and talk about interactions with executive branch in especially with the intelligence committee. You know, one of the core legal obligations. The checking branch has is to keep the committees of the house and Senate fully currently informed, and the doesn't have a asterisk. But I think it's pretty well understood that that has some some limitations or exceptions. You have a great deal of experience, I seem with the executive branches interpretation of where those exemptions are appropriate. And why did you find there are image to be compelling? Can you tell our listeners how you resolve differences of opinion? Requirement that the rest of national security Myers. There's specific languages you energy, which says members of the intelligence that is you'll be fully informed of all intelligence issues. The way the interpretation of that as immoral and I think correctly, so but there are certain leadership positions with him a house in. Where leaders I house and Senate themselves or the Seger. And and the monarchy later on the house majority leader Mahajan on centers as well. As the chairman and vice-chairman ranking member of intelligence committees are to be fully informed in a different way. From other members of even the intelligence in atoms in there are certain things that are home going within the realm of national security where you can't afford to afford the risk of the any leaks taking place, and we all know that Washington. Him the lease the most not into the Potomac. So. It is. Good way, we end what was called the thing. Eight which were four leisure physicians receive raisings different level from the remainder of any. Dying as conscious decision from the time that other members of the committee also the same racing, and we never got turned down. We we have some arguments with executive Bryant's from time to time about the same of what they should tell. But example of that is and. Leon Panetta was a director vice chairman, and he called me up actually knew before I was fishery nine he before I knew. So I knew he was running the message. Let's run, but he told me on Sunday night. And he said you and I need to me tomorrow something I need breaking. I've been on for years. And I thought I was pretty well informed but found out right quick that were along other things. I was never told all of a sudden. Going about what he in reference to that time was the the fact that we were observing individual and. My bottom on that. We saw was was of Iran's young and that was January. And then course, we ultimately king conclusion that was in and we got brings on regular weekly basis after that and my level. Nobody only committee news that those observations for taking place like grant where you just can't afford the run the risk, but Braun population being fully informed. Now, we're some Acadians in fact. I don't remember you being involved in any discussions. That's good back. My bushy years when we end the interrogation program underway part of of yet. You was to make sure that the the individuals who were running every program we're doing under the appropriate authority, and we had a relative age with the Bush White House over may review, the memo's granting the thority for for the detention program. So. There are times when you you really. But he has with the administration over issues, and you know, the there's some of that doing all right now the fact that Republican amid he's in the house is seen documents from the end of the they refused turn over and they're just not going do it. And they're going to win those arguments because they think it's within the the the realm of of. There sections side when there's a risk of Liege of something really really cause. While some American Mayes. Yeah. And the game made is pretty small group. I would say in the context of the interrogation program. One of the things that came out. There was Senator Rockefeller who's on many of the time in part of the game vase had expressed concern in the early days of out the limitation of of the disclosure to gang of aids in and among other things said he felt constrained by not being able to talk to other members or staff that it was particularly limiting at times in in your village to conduct vigorous oversight. There are times when I did that way. There's one particular situation slows I was privy to was brief regularly home that really goes on great concern going forward because. Country that was involved and the year of the issue. We were really concerned that it's. The members of the committee is and would be asking different types of questions. But at the same time it was such as. That the country involved ever found out. And we knew what we knew what we know that it would be a major national security issues again and cost American lives. And and you just you can't afford to run that risk, and when you had disagreements with the executive branch over those kinds of things as you said, it's alternately often up to the executive branch to make a decision about what can be disclosed to. Did you feel like you were in a wealth of while position? I guess to to judge whether they're limitations were appropriate might the argument on you at the end of the day. And I in you that it was going to be there. How most ration- or the Allama them stretching? They were the ones that were going to help them. Decision Mike her. But if we feel strongly about it, we didn't have to go and all the way to the Oval Office too. So you really ought to think about this losing this. And and there were times that we provide most of the time we didn't. But you know. Presents frozen. He had to I guess put it fine point time. We saw again in case in the house where they they actually moved forward with their own process to declassify information. It sounds like, you know, at the end of the day, you all regularly deferred to executive brats branches judgment on that would push it as far as he could have been alternately would resign to it. And I'm wondering if you have any perspective on whether and under what circumstances might be appropriate for the congress to go ahead and overrule the executive branch in that kind of way. K remember against? Where I can say that I think they should've been overruled. Some of them are being more loan than obviously there's situation and existence now relative to the transparency of of vice accord, they was involved in. And we're on vice ical were and still today, you see alike that there are some things that are classified that should remain classified that the general public does not need to know. And we end that argument relatives and to the Faisal award, and and Germany was actually released some documents from vice core where they were classified documents. And and then you you you have the, and I say released documents from sandy correcting on that any documents coming from Pfizer co workers are not authorized for release the class or not. But melissa. For the most part, whether it's Republican or democrat. I think if use good judgment in the when we get have arguments about whether or not to really something. Can I just follow on that the newness Feis it because it is the first time that we've seen in public portions of if is application the application on Carter page, are you worried than this unprecedented event will have some long-term bad effect on the Feis program. Because you're gonna price to spend sent out saying. And there's you know, there's nothing to any member of intelligence committee is familiar with the by the process to go out on on any major network on Sunday on and all of a sudden start talking about something within visor gore that they've been briefed on. And and this is not the way that that that cord was designed to work, and it's not the way the world classified documents in hell were shooting were so yeah, that does concern me that can happen and taking a little bit of the case study one of the things that struck us. I think is the legislative branch and executive branch were set up in some ways to fight over issues. Like this from time to time. What's what's a little strange about right now is that? As you pointed out earlier, you've got the FBI and DOJ sort of trying to hold the line on not disclosing investigative documents. And following the standards in the so-called Lindor letter about not briefing congress about ongoing investigations, not disclosing informed and so forth. But instead of a straight out fight between the executive branch and congress with the president in the agency's lined up on one side in the committees on the other sort of got a mixed here with seems like the president taking the side of some people in congress, including German news against his own agency within the executive branch. What do you make of that sort of slightly unusual alignment, and do you think our system was really designed to accommodate that kind of that kind of line lineup in these areas. Things happen with Indian tale world over the last couple of years, and I I was apprised. President Trump didn't really taking intelligence community Hurley home for what it is. Which is the best organization again until June Syria's in the world, and they do it. Professionals and doing in my professional way and as the commander in chief of the United States. He's he's the most powerful man in the world. Primarily because he has Memphis. Intelligence and those people are on his son and he needs to to encourage community and not be critical. He doesn't seem to understand our act as if they're on his side at least g listen to him. I mean, he really seems to respond to the icy as adversary in a lot of ways. While you alluded to. Situation where he can't subdued. And the opposing side J house on these as us he's he hasn't hesitated to be critical and then go and when curses. This is just the warranty is okay, but the intelligence community. And just a difference the year than any other agency within the government, and they're. Intelligence community from the most arch and the done just like gathering of tell which is you know, the mo- are hand closed doors and not in the public round. And that's that's mobile personal opinion rather than you know. The political requirement. I guess, but it certainly makes it less political when it is done that way during the Obama administration and the Bush administration never debates over a variety of things from surveillance authorities to interrogation techniques to how you handle on prosecute captured terrorists. And the the first question I had is particularly during the Bush administration one of the arguments that they were making at the time is that the executive branch in the context of armed conflict could ignore certain statutory, restrictions or or interpret them creatively. And at least in the context of interrogation and not commissions and surveillance. Congress actually stepped in did some investigations in oversight and ultimately legislated. You mentioned earlier that you had some some agreements and some disagreements with with. Bush administration's policies, I'm wondering if you felt it was important for congress to at least legislated in those areas, regardless of what he felt about the policy just to protect certain institutional interests that they have ministering the need to abide by the rule of losses. Heerlen does he role congress? Congress has an obligation to ensure that rain into the Intel humanity, but those who are well within and strange some casting. And is he don't do that. Then there cans the opportunities and those opportunities taking advantage of to to go around because you know, protections that are granted. So yeah, I think clearly that's a role this congress needs. And and what often tend to forget? And then there are a lot of people were even arguing today and words weren't old enough. Then to really appreciate the situation that the country was in the situation Bush administration in which he has I mean, we suffered an attack on September eleventh like we never suffered in his country, maybe Pearl Harbor the compared to and some ways, but this was this was in the heart of America. And as as we were go, then was the concerns within the intelligence community. The next way was and the frozen and make decisions based on best information than he end, the best intelligence and. Certain things in order to protect America and Americans, and you know, looking at it with hindsight when he has. Yemen Hardee's or mandates to some as the intelligence community from. But we didn't know that. And so when. And one of them what about into certainty since two was to make sure that those two were in the two vox. And and do you think that has to restrain him always been a factor and in the mind of both those stray Sion's as well as the current administration relatives of intelligence gathering and and the use of two was. When Americans are free Americans tend to allow some the sins on the friend of those aunties. And I think that's what we saw happen than it was a row kind to step in and say, okay, we're gonna we're gonna do this. We're gonna Lau it, but it's gotta be within certain vans. And unfortunately, in my opinion, the further we get away from September eleven the loser. Those those vans. Is yesterday. Michael Cohen president's former attorney pled guilty to Ryan to congress and the last twenty four hours or so we've heard some folks downplaying that bit saying, it's a process crime. None of the deal, but just today Senator Burr was speaking at a conference in in Austin, Texas in he revealed that the Senate intelligence committee is actually referred number of cases to the special counsel's office for based on suspicion that they misled congress in some way, you know, former member of the has representatives in the Senate in the intelligence committees. How serious you take allegations perjury before congress is something that you find deeply troubling. 'specially nicely. Something like this where there was no Ramel reason in looking with hands. I'd as to why he would congress and not to. This particular issues, but it doesn't matter what he is. If you you've come in. And you don't tell. Conyers and should be treated medicine, actually and guy overseas. Otherwise, you're sending a message, and it would be wrong message. We know situations where people in and even lesser environment and not to try to the and they're going to prison because it fruit to be alive. So when you come to congress, and and you intentionally why should be seriously. Thank you for that in with that. I think we'll let you off the hot seat. Senator chambliss. Thank you very much for joining us on the culprit partners rule of law podcast. It's been a real pleasure again enjoyed being wedding. The love your podcast is produced in cooperation with the Brookings Institution. If you haven't yet, please share the law, fair podcast on social media and give us a rating and review wherever you listen to us. The law podcast is edited by gen pot. You how and our music is performed by Sophia yon, and as always thanks for listening.

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163: Bannon's Bad Day

The 45th

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163: Bannon's Bad Day

"This means that Donald Trump will be the forty fifth president of the United States. This is your life. Now, this is our election. Now, this is us. This is our country. It's real. Hi and welcome back to the forty fifth rob here and I'm here with my colleague Coho Susan Simpson Hey Susan Hey Arabia how you doing? Hanging in their house, the pandemic going on your end. I mean it is apparently still raging. I nobody gives a shit. The world is still burning. And we are just like outpacing I. Think so many other countries in the world on curbing this is it's yeah. My life continues to go on everybody I know all my friends family, they continued to quarantine and be good. But seriously man I've invited I've been invited to a wedding las week I've been invited a dinner in last weekend. I'm like dinner I what? So a dent like a Jesus look at somebody's house our neighbors and I was like, yeah, I'm not really covered auto just drop off food I was like okay. But I think people are just fatigued and are wanting to get back to their lives and a lot of them are doing. It is weird sometimes when you see aspects of life are people who are living their lives it was not Kobe times and it is it is hard to keep up the distancing keep up your routines of isolation when you realize that some out, there are not and like well, what's the point? Why should we do this now? Appoint of course. You when your. Sick but it it's such. A will be the last one. Standing Susan. It's the slowest driver I go to a crowded a grocery store for the first time in probably months the other day I came out like feeling like I had a cough and a sore throat already habits already happened. Well I mean to be honest I gotta I gotta get groceries like every four days with the amount of milk. My kid goes through but we go I, feel pretty safe I. Mean like the stores are mostly you know it's like at ten percent capacity and everybody's wearing a mask and staying the heck apart. Stores like that and spills. Okay. Not Apparently about your stores in general with this one was like not almost normal times crowded. It was definitely sort of like a freak out moment 'cause I hadn't seen that so long. And no masking are masking. There were there was masking had that going for? All right. There's a little bit of a barrier artless. Let's talk about where we are right now with numbers as of this morning Joe Johns Hopkins reporting, we are at one, hundred, seventy, seven, thousand, five, hundred, thirty, six, US deaths, which by the way is twenty percent of the reported global death like. Count. We account for twenty percent of it. We are four percent of the world's population. Where at five point seven, five, million positive cases as you are aware in the last couple of weeks school sorted opening universities started opening I have two friends just over the weekend. told me that they dropped their sons off at their dorms I'm like. What are you doing? But I guess everybody's like I guess we're just GONNA end up coming back soon and spreading our. Aspirin exactly spreading out further. University of Alabama just reported this morning that they've had five hundred sixty cases on campus. I think they've been open for like a week differ some time. Exactly. I mean, there's and I guess my question is, what do you do those students? Do you quarantine them on the campus of because that seems to be the only way to make sure it doesn't spread into every other part of the country most likely they travel home and then hopefully quarantine at home but in many cases probably don't. Travel itself is to make things. Ogling. Hopefully they're driving. It's I I feel like we're just at the beginning of a just like the worst part of twenty twenty because. I feel cases would explode because of all the school stuff and then the election and it's I I'm really dreading the rest of this year. So here's the good news mask. Wearing the data continues to come in and show that it is effective at it can have a very significant reduction in the spread of the virus. It's not foolproof course at other and save everyone can't stop it. For good but it does extremely effective There was a report out of South Korea where a woman had gone in to a starbucks who was infected and something like twenty seven patrons also got. The four. BREESE's working there were wearing masks and did not get it. You're kidding me the patrons around her twenty. Some people acted I was pretty sharp sharp by that by itself but the good news is at least like sneeze on everybody's. Transition. Like waltzing around just like sitting on thinking opera yeah. And the size to rally the to the episode. Stay was the US to hairstylists to Salt Lake between them over one hundred patients. But but they wore masks sniping Colin positive none none of their customers. Got It. So I do think if we can get mask-wearing up to be like ninety five percent prevalent It. Will make a real dent in this and it would make a flu season less the possible nightmare might be well, this administration is not going to mandate however Joe Biden in his speech. Last week of the DNC did say that he would he would enact a national. Mandate, to wear masks so Yeah, I'm not sure how it's GonNa enforce that. But like I I wonder I appreciate the sentiment thinks that could by itself make a difference but in terms actually forcing it not so much. I mean he actually this I mean trump uses his you know he threatened states with funding this and that why couldn't a Democratic president the same like if governors and mayors and say, if you nod enforce this, then we're going to withhold federal funding. For X., Y. Z whatever hundreds of programs that you get money for why can't you use the same tools? Because were public and ideally the power the partially coming from Congress under the Constitution. It's like. This is like a national security threat but okay. Talk a little bit about the anymore. Talk about before we get to the DNC I want to talk briefly about those. Yeah, well, there's one element this week not development. Well, they're somewhat development going on in the treatment front. Did you catch the press conference What one day when we go can't tell anymore on the new tripping authorized with FDA I talked with the plasma the plasma. Yeah. So over the weekend trump was you know tweet now this feelings as usual and had some particularly batch of tweets about how? The FDA or whoever raised like. The deep state, the deep state or whoever at the FDA is like blocking development of treatments for Covid which you know we just all moved onto that because whatever it's where we are now but that is extremely Warming, thing to come out with the president declared that his administration is somehow like. Blocking treatments for various reasons anyway. Within twenty four hours. There was an announcement that there'd be press conference to announce a new treatment would be authorized which well, that was pretty quick And we did turns out. This, this nutrient thing authorized or at least it hasn't emergency use authorizations. was from convalescent plasma nor is trump said it? PILOT PLASMA. So. Plasma it's an old therapy. I mean it's real therapy in the bigger sense it's been there are conditions and diseases where it's very beneficial in it's known known treatment. It's not. So kind of crackpot idea. It's real the question is real in this case with cove in nineteen, and that is a much. Much more uncertain. Question. Now, this has been used already think something like ninety thousand people already gotten this treatment in the US because under a national expanded access protocol which is basically a way that lets treatments that are experimental be given to patients and the Mayo Clinic has done a cold the study we'll get to that bit they've done. They've done a many patients with the plasma with the aim of trying to get. Evidence to show if it helps. Now this evidence is at best lukewarm and the week before this whole press conference the actually refused to grant knee way runcie use others Asian on the plasma therapy because there just wasn't evidence that shows that actually does anything. So, this this back have been twenty four hours. This crazy tweet, we've got this press conference shows that FDA's bowing to political pressure Now. What we do the studies that we do have are concerning and that despite the packers with a lot of people got mistreatment. At no point was like a real study done like a double blind. Stay with Control Group put together and which means the data we're looking at is not comparing people who got treatment those who didn't get it. It's for instance, showing people who got treatment at different time periods. So here's the results of the study in one instance patients who got the treatment of the compound plasma within three days of being dynastic Ovid had an eight point seven. Case Pataudi rate. Over a seven day period however, patients treatment four more days after diagnosis tally of eleven point nine percent or seventy rate which means that. There's possibly. Some effect going on here. But what they're measuring is like three days versus four days and how long it's getting treatment so it can be showing. If people have. Progressed four days longer than the disease, their outcomes worse as opposed to showing terms effect making see how that would I can see how that would make sense because obviously, this is the kind of disease that people just degenerate like very very rapidly with time one day you're like not till not feeling. So well, three years later on ventilator. So that one day could make a big difference I guess. Yeah. It's really it's really a drop ball that they did not organize an actual study, give an opportunity to do. So I don't understand why that didn't happen the risks, and for this reason, this is why people like like there is no evidence has actually works yet. Well I see. Okay. So there's no study with a placebo but what about? Just. In general if people get no therapy I would, how does the death rate compared to those people? They haven't done it they have not studied pair of patients. To okay. So they just did they have did not look bad at all. 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So take the first step to defeating your debt. Get your free assessment today. Go to build dot com slash forty fifth. That's bills dot com slash forty fifth bills dot com slash forty fifth. At the press conference despite the fact that the data by itself is already shaky. It gets worse. And a Commissioner Steven Hahn at the press conference. GAVE THIS FOR WHY QASIM PLASMA IS In his belief a big deal. So. Let me just put this in perspective. Many of you know I was a cancer doctor before i. BECAME FDA commissioner and thirty five percent improvement in survival is a pretty substantial clinical benefit. What that means is even if the data continue to pan out one hundred people who are sick. With covid nineteen thirty five would have been saved because of the administration of Plasma. We've seen a great deal of demand for this from doctors around the country. Yes. So this is very very. Look I'm not good at math, but even I either. Like if I'm like. Wrong it's really wrong. Yeah. Now This thirty, five percent number of the case. Reduction in mortality. would. What Hans said it means is that if one hundred people got sick with Cova now thirty five, them are gonna live would otherwise died if they all get the treatment that's not that that is just. Nothing to do with the actual numbers and volunteer right? What this would mean for instance, is it say Bat You had. Out of one hundred people Kobe. and. There's no treatment that three what have died than with treatment only to die that would roughly be those thirty three percents but close enough to the numbers at haunt signing as opposed to haunt who as in his words as a cancer doctor. Thinks that it means thirty five people would live. It's it. have been a doctor. Bullshit yeah. If if you have any, if you have any any experience like shopping and doing a quick like Ma, Ma checking your brain about like A. Sale price come on like anybody can do this. This is insane but not the guy in charge of authorizing nutrients. Now remarkably in the trump era Han did later issued an apology for his confusion of the absolute relative risks. But it was like the last tweet in a tweet thread. Oh, by the way. Sorry I screwed that up. All right. So this was supposed to be like trump. You know trump's big todd right? This is GonNa be like some really exciting new news. Help Yeah. This was the FBI scrambling to somehow get back. Trump's good side after trump tweeted that they're all of the state. So. He's really been able to like manipulate every single agency. All right but other than that it no other news on the vaccine front right. Things are still promising and moving along is Dr Fifty still. Alive. She's still route knocking winter that man a longtime. Trump. Yeah and I don't think there's been a chronic virus briefing, right? Like it was like they. We're going to restart these and then they kinda like tapered off or somebody you know I hadn't even noticed. But yeah, they definitely have stopped that because apparently didn't give him the rush he needed and also he kept saying bad things. Slate was the Cunanan one the last one. No. He may have been the time we Cunanan and he's like, yeah, they're good. People love his nation. Okay. I only heard about that I have no I don't know what happens. So why don't you tell us about that one was like this was last week and they've been the last quarter various breathing come to think of I check on that but finally someone. Asked trump about CCR on and they did it at a good. Here's trump answering question about. On and the Georgia candidate. Who was recently? In the primary, thank you for being here and we'll take some. Questions. During the pandemic of Cunanan Movement has been appears to be a lot of followers. Can you talk about what you think about that and what you have to say to people who are following this movement right now let her know much about the movement other than I understand I liked him very much. which I appreciate but I don't know much about the movement I. Have Heard that it is gaining in popularity and from what I've here it's these people that when they watch the streets a portland. When they watch what happened in New York City and just the last six or seven months. But this was starting even four years ago when I came here, almost four years can you believe it? these people that don't like seeing. What's going on in places like Portland and places like Chicago and New York and other. Cities and states. and. I've heard these are people that love our country and they just don't like seeing it. So I don't know really anything about it other than. They do supposedly like me and they also. Would like to see. Problems in these areas like especially the areas that we're talking about go away because there's no reason the Democrats can't run a city and if they can't, we will send in all of the federal whether it's troops or law enforcement whatever they'd like we'll send him and we'll straighten out their problem in twenty four hours or less. Than half of the theory is this belief that you are secretly saving the world from this site tanic cold of header files and cannibals does that sound like something you are behind him I haven't I haven't heard that but Is that supposed to be a bad thing I think. If if can help save the world from problems, willing to do it I'm willing to put myself out there, and we are actually where saving the world from a radical left. Philosophy. Yeah he he did not disavow it. He refused to sit out in fact he's like, oh they're. Patriots he doesn't know much about it. He says, which is obviously bullshit but like he. Just. Refusing to disavow this. This insanity. And worth noting later, meadows, his new chief South did the rounds on Cable News and he also refused the disavow Cunanan because guess what Cunanan airbase they love you announced borders it's batch but like they need that support that and they're not going to push it away and. So. Georgia martyr Taylor Green who is a Completely deepen the Q. just one of the primary she is. She is terrifying. She crazy straight up crazy and instead of like distancing themselves like the GOP tweeted congratulations like the State party did the I mean like I am I think I don't know if president trump himself personally also congratulated her. tweeted that she's the rising new star, the Republican Party. Yes and he's right. He. Unfortunately, right. Fortunately correct. Yeah. She's a complete She's a racist Islamophobes. She's one of the worst I've seen emerge and that's saying a lot. What do you think you're going to win this? Oh. Yeah. It's the district where Ford County is. She's GonNa win, Oh my God. God. And she's the kind who'd like based enrolled her twitter activity like she is like this not just like Dabbling Cunanan she's full on the Vatican sacrificing children in alters beneath like yeah. She makes video Rome. Yeah and she fulling fully believe in satanic globalist. Cannibal Sex Trafficking Thing. Yeah, it's not pretty it's. got also. Detroit the Save the children rallies that went on. Yes. I did I saw video footage of one in Hollywood. And you know what's making me angry about that is not just the fact the rallies happening but also, I've seen some media coverage of it calling it a save the children rally. This is. This is this is very alarming. So this is like mull children say the children like you're not saving the children for real threat from saving them from Lake. Being raised in tunnels instigate life essences yeah yeah. I don't know how many millions of children are missing from there. I don't know where they. You know where where coming for the actual children, take them their families. We know that at the border like that's not that the children are worried about where these children that they are in wearing their parents and why aren't they say anything really missing. maybe the part of the consider say tonic conspiracy. Yeah. All right. So it could be that the coronavirus briefings is halted because president trump became obsessed with the DNC which began last week and real quick. Did You Watch the DNC HAL? No, you didn't know Susan Really. Watch. I did and you know what? I'm glad I watched it was the first time in I think year three years that I felt like a glimmer of hope. I mean, I know the chances are that the hope will be crushed because this man is still the election but. I did I was like an I mostly was very stressed out for Joe Biden. He's an elder. He delivered the best speech of all four days. He really did he killed it he's just so he has so much empathy and so much class but the whole thing was produced beautifully the roll call was great. The music was great. It was it was I mean I remember at the beginning of it people like Oh my God this is GonNa Suck by the end of it people everybody was saying they should like we should keep the we should you conventions virtual from now on it was that it makes sense like the virtual it makes sense to do it that way. Yeah. Yeah of the quote pandemic, but you might not think that if you watched the RNC last night. I saw some bits and pieces toward the end. I. I don't have cable right now but I had a PBS and they're playing the cloudy bit. In that was some horror show Chit. Right there. Can we listen to? Can we listen to? Kim, can we listen don JR girlfriend Oh God? Oh, God. To suit. I got PTSD from that. America it's all on the line. President trump believes in you he emancipate ten lifts you up to live your American dream. You are capable. You are qualified you are powerful and you have the ability to choose your life and determine your destiny. Don't let the Democrats take you for granted. Don't let them step on. You don't let them destroy your family's your lives and your future don't let them kill future generations because they told you and brainwash you and fed. You lies they you weren't good enough. Like parents, you can achieve your American dream. You can be that shiny example to the world. Manifest be the change in this country that you dream that you hope that you believe in stand for an American president who is fearless who believes in you and who loves this country I'm we'll fight for her. President trump is the leader who will rebuild the promise of America and ensure that every citizen can realize their American. Dream. Ladies and gentlemen, leaders and fighters for freedom and liberty and the American dream. The best is yet to Tom. Do the legit was channeling like a WWF. He'll I don't know what that was supposed to be I never. Seen I guess it was inspirational when apparently as the DNC was go going on to this would be obviously trump was probably watching and he was like Oh. My God why can I have that? Why can't they do that for me and he was he was making calls every night i. want this I want this all these ideas of course, pulling that together the last minutes for complicated. But they did they did a great job and my favorite part the DNC probably was the very end. It was like you know they had like fireworks and these cars spread out and the music was amazing. It may come on common and John Legend as Great. So they asked trump, what is Going to be like inspirational and hopeful, and then you've got John Junior Cocaine was trending last night for a reason to. Do. So I was sitting there I'm like wait he's crying Wisey crying what happened to him. and. Then I check twitter with. Cope I'm like Oh is that is that what it is you think so what you just emotional According to twitter. That's what coke looks like. John. Boy can say I like something was wrong with that man like something was not right and whether it was him having a good cry backstage for his speech or him like blowing a few rail I don't know something was super. Wrong. And it was. I guess we're GONNA pretend that didn't happen but like that totally happened, well, the messaging was interesting him and Kim Guilfoil. Both of them had I mean other than the crazy shoddy bits a had a similar message that was directed very much. The American people and it was like you can have it all I thought this was interesting. Over and over he that's what Don Jr. repeated over and over she repeated that all your dreams can come true. You can have it all all the prosperity. What can be yours. It sounded almost like a kind of like a tent revival type of. Prosperity. Gospel stuff going on. Yeah and it reminded me of of some of the analysis done about why white poor white voters will still vote Republican it's and it's because they are fed this dream that you. You could be just like us right I mean that's part of the. Part of the draw. So anyhow, I was really interesting. I don't know how the rest of it. There's a couple of speakers, but I really mostly tuned out and I checked in highlights later. Now it's going to go and trump is going appear like every single day. So Yay for that I guess Trump's problem is that he just does not have exposure voters. Yesterday in the daytime, the NC he he started one of his rambling talks I swear to God I started listening I started listening and I'm like I can't I can't do. It's the same God damn thing over and over and over. Anyway in the meantime, Kanye has disappeared from the news I don't know what's going with his presidential bid. Apparently he's off the ballot. Missouri. He did not get enough signatures so. So that's it. Well, Missouri. Okay. All. Right. So let's move on. We've got three more nine to the. We'll see how close we know it's going to go shit show. I mean full of hope and optimism. What are you saying? Milania, is going to give the speech of her life and she will Michelle Obama gave a fantastic speech and she's GonNa Coffee. Word for word but all the trump speaking including the honorable bunka trump and. Speaking of which did you hear what the book that's coming out millennials friends I heard you I told there was a book didn't hear more about it is. What's IT GONNA? COST FRIEND Yeah Yeah Yeah and she's provided to some outlets like she secretly recorded Melania and that's not a friend basically shit talking trump and I she doesn't like along surprise surprise. All right. So let's move on last week was the Senate hearings with the postal US Postal Service what's it called? the Postmaster General Louis Joy. So I, I don't know how long the hearing loss I think. It was a day and then this Monday yesterday were the house hearings now. It hasn't you noted earlier that hasn't been like very exciting but a couple of things that have come out first of all this guy knows very little about. The agency that he runs. Whatever whatever shenanigans are afoot here safe to say that the joy is not the puppetmaster. He doesn't I mean he doesn't even know like he doesn't. He's like I. Don't know why certain machines were removed. I had nothing to do with that. But when he was asked look six, hundred, seventy, one machines have been removed like just in the last few months we'll you reinstall them before the election he had no soaring machines he was asked about the price of postage. No. He asked who did the changes that really happened under his leadership and he said he didn't know and couldn't get you just he has no idea why the post offices changing it's just happening. It's not his responsibility. You know I thought was bullshit until I. saw that read the story that was just reported. I think in the New York, Times about how apparently Stephen Newton. Secretary of Treasury is the one who. Might be behind all these shenanigans as far back as January he began having meetings with different the the board of different members of the Board of Governors of the US. Postal Service. But meeting with Republican ones and not the democratic ones and so because they weren't invited the Treasury meeting, there's not a corum apparently, they're the sunshine laws apply. So they don't have to actually report that this meeting took place. But at that time since then Mnuchin has had his fingers all up in this Helping to direct the board of governors like you know passing along like a proposed candidates for the position to the White House just deep in it. Not, his apparently, his reason for this is it treasury right? I mean he wants to cut costs this and that. Is that legitimate? Do you think? No, that's that's not how this works. It's not how this works So far. Is that the the hiring of joy was very Outside traditional channels. It was not through the normal process. He was not a finalist under the. Very expensive consulting searches and see they hire to find them a candidate for this role. He was just magically inserted in after making the first cut selection. And he apparently went into this interview where he was the one asking all the questions and they had a joe joked at the It quote unquote interview that they had asked something they could say it was really an interview. So he knew he getting the job going in there he he does not. I think it's safe to say does not qualified. For the role. Whatever's going on he's not the one masterminding in that. That's the one conclusion I. We can safely say they still not hearing. Yeah. So that's basically it. I mean, the dismantling the postal service continues I saw an interesting tweet by the US Postal Service a couple of days ago. I can you know there's trump is trump is not miss an opportunity to continue to talk about how there's I don't know fifty, seven million ballots and they're gonNA be lost and and and trump himself is tweeting save the postal service like last week he tweeted Save USPS I mean the gas lighting is on. All, the charts. But. The US Postal Service tweeted a couple of days ago I was like, Oh my God who did that going to get fired that if every single American. Voted by mail in this election that would mean they would only have to deliver seventy five percent of their regular annual deliveries like so they they can handle it as what somebody over there saying. The election the problem is that all the males jacked up and the thing. People are losing, their, meal. All right. So let's move on. Now this last week, the Senate Intel Committee report which Has Been Long does finally released about all the Russian. Russian stuff with trump and their conclusions. Over thousand pages a Lotta. Redacted style It was actually not it was the reductions were. Overall. I mean, definitely less a proportionate was redacted then with a report for instance but was extremely frustrating and was also point out by Senator Wyden. His additional remarks are additional comments was that the reductions were primarily focused on stuff that's relevant to today to ongoing matters such as the efforts by Senator Ron Johnson to. Launder. Dissipation from Ukrainian officials allied with Russia. Where to politically harm Joe Biden. So all that stuff. All Ukraine stuff was large redacted on. There was some stuff that was just like. You know kind of. Interesting but not really that in more. Than helpful got redacted but for the most part actions that. I think we're both disappointing. We're the ones it affected the. The amount of state Ukraine stuff. Still, this report was throw. It was well done. It was very detailed. It was a counterintelligence, the final volume in the Senate Intel Committees Review of this. Counterintelligence measures and the harm to America and what we can going forward it was. A I mean the the sentence control, the Republicans. So the Republicans on the committee had us on often they did, which is remarkable because it was a very detailed document did not support any of the narrative going around trumpworld did not support claims about like you know. That's conspiracy to spy on his campaign and all that. It refuted those clamps in fact, but of course. The. Republicans senior Republicans, they had to somehow signal their continued support for trump. Has One thousand page detailed exhaustive report into the whole Russian trump world efforts backing twice sixteen. The Republican. Members of the committee had a additional comments very end. That was just basically one page that said, no clue no collusion which fancy. In bold and well. After they've signed onto this report that explained in detail all the ways the trump campaign had welcomed US Russian assistance in all the damage and harm pose to. America. But maybe they didn't read report in Kid. You know they they they had to read. They had to have signed off on all of this visit to happen. That's the things. This report could not have occurred if they hadn't been fully behind it and -greeing the be done. So they obviously. Agree they recognize the problem they recognize the issues they're not on it, and yet politically, they're forced to do this whole Marco Rubio dance of like there's no collusion. And the report. This is what is the what's the value this report we'll actually done with this report does other than just Kinda documenting this is like a this is like an official report. Now, documentary something is there any way in which it can be useful to? Any doesn't matter we'll support actually that's it's focus was like a detailed list of well one it's recounting. What happened in two has pretty comprehensive set of recommendations for various agencies or private actors about how the street on again like for instance issues in how the FBI was briefing targets of these international hacking attempts. There's definitely a disconnect between how the FBI was trying to inform the targets of these attacks and how the targets victims were responding to it. In this case in leading things like with the DNC and other groups who So written that respect this report very helpful is here's Williams went wrong. Here's a better like here's why this was. We did not respond appropriately and here's how we should. Try and Change Communications, happy I and victims of hacking for. So it was very useful aspect but as the report notes, a could not do there's a lot that report couldn't couldn't. No couldn't find out because of the extensive section about trump inspiration. For, instance, the trump ministration. Witnesses the called continuously invoked the privilege, which one they can't. Because that's the president's privileged to invoke, and he did not vote and to they're invoking for things that happen during the transition are like entered the campaigns on cases which doesn't exist. There's no executive privilege for the president-elect But in the end, basically the. Senate Intel. Committee concluded that it just had to get up and taking those documents because quote if a subpoenaed witness was a government official and asserted a claim of executive privilege matter species that claim peered, the committee was effectively foreclosed from pursuing civil contempt. So they're like well can't do shit. But it also noted that the committee had anticipated that it would phase executive privilege claims from the Obama administration officials who they called and in fact, though quote in practice though Obama administration officials freely shared their conversations with the President Obama and each other related to the Russia threat. Joint Defense Agreement issue where the trump world figures all claim their partisan secret jd and therefore can't talk about jd or like their role in certain day all mountain's but as this. found. They couldn't actually do anything because if they did it take forever and would never have been resolved in time for still have any meaning. So. Here's the question that I saw raised over and over on twitter. I saw a lot of people crapping on Muller after this report came out yet twitter happy with they're like, oh, muller fail are the trio by wanted was. What, what's he doing all this time? And? Yes. Like people were angry after seeing the was very explicit and much more direct in house laid out from the Senate committee report that like what was the Miller report doing? What was what was this coy vague nonsense? And I think it's it's just kind of water that was an emotional reaction to that whole time and I was like Muller will save US smaller will save us. And no mother was never going to save anything like when has prosecute ever save? Shit. That's my bias but like the prosecutor, a prosecutor is not the tool for the job that people wanted to see Deng the. Mother, did was obey the rules of being a prosecutor I? mean he was very very within. He's drawing within the Lions Kinda Guy So things like suggesting the president engaged in criminal conduct, they couldn't charge. No Muller wouldn't do it because that's what the prosecutors called said he couldn't do. but like there's no scenario, which prosecutor would be able to do what people were hoping. Could be done because his only goal as the special counsel was to find in charge criminal conduct, which as the Senate intimates report notes Is really at odds with. What as a nation, we needed after the Russian interference operation twice team they talked about how although colonel prosecutions are you know a vital tool and they're necessary? It must at all times, he balanced with a pursuit of criminal prosecutions and quote it is the committee's view that this balance was not achieved. Russian interference with the US electoral process was inherently a counterintelligence matter and not one well suited to criminal prosecutions as a result. The committee found that some of the colors aspects of the FBI original crossfire hurricane investigation were crowded out by the special counsel's effort to identify charge and prosecute crimes. in other cases, nascent counterintelligence efforts by FBI were subsumed by CEO and were neither fully pursued returned FBI until the conclusion two years later. In other words. Yes. Special Counsel Likely. Interfered and blocked our ability to fully understand what happened. Why sixteen because that's how criminal prosecutions work you have there's Supposed to do that's what he was supposed to do. I mean I'm nothing at smaller failure I'm saying that's that's this is. I mean this was a consequence instrument foreseeable But we're thinking to me is like, why why is it that like? Okay you're saying, okay. They're saying that the efforts by FBI were subsumed by special counsel not return to the FBI like what is it one document like one binder it's going back and forth really FBI can't continue to like do their. Whatever their investigation and enforcement as Muller is doing his work. Because criminal prosecutions are so different from the counterintelligence purposes are for credit prosecutions. You have to be concerned all times about constitutional rights about getting evidence in a form that can be used at trial. About. Knocking ethical breaches and the whole approach is just. These aren't like similar thing when someone both. But they're not like. Two parallel processes they're just entirely different worlds where one is your your goal is to put someone in prison and the other your goal to find out what happened. And in this case yeah. The. Because of this because the SEO existed and was pursuing criminal matters that did mean that people couldn't pursue. That is a counterintelligence matter at the same time or else lose evidence interfere with one another it's just something you can do as a parallel. Okay. All right. So Well, somebody gets up last week for like a couple of hours bannon. Ban Well. Also, we had Klein. Smith. Real quick on the DERM Kevin. Kline. Smith I. Wait who is this I don't even know I can't remember. Well, he's he's the first person prosecutors as part of Durham's efforts to investigate investigators. And maybe the last we'll see but basically he's a former FBI attorney He was charged with making a false statement because he's the one who in part of Faisal application for Carter page, he altered an email from. Someone in the government and forwarded it on and pretended that was what they originally melt said. Now, this has been quote about on Fox News everywhere like that's proof that they spied on trump's campaign. It's proof of misconduct wrongdoing looking at the overall circumstances. No, that's not what happened here it was. Like. But for the record, I'm totally prosecution with this guy did was wrong. should've happened and was criminal. My is but it just didn't have anything to do with like a anti-trump conspiracy You're saying it was just wrong good. He made the change to the email, but I'm looking at the change. Is it a really a material change? I think yes, it is. It's. It he guilty so it's moot. Point I. Had trouble trying to prove in court. But yes, I think it was material but not in the way that that the Fox News crowd. Thanks. So this happened in June of twenty seventeen for the fourth renewal of the third renewal fourth applications on on the page weren't. So now this is like five once trump has been in office, it's not spying on his campaign trump's president. Already. Even three previous warrants that were. Approved. For the fourth one, an issue came up because Karner Pager's going on TV and saying, I'm a source for the CIA. So someone was like wait is really a source for the CIA go. Find Out, and then the problem is the word source is really confusing and there's a lot of. Conflicting terms between various. Agencies. and the actual email those four to decline Smith but he changing forwarded on it originally said that. page wasn't. Wasn't operational con appraisal contact, or OC. And what he would point day will change it to say the page was an operational contact and not a source. which basically was him being too lazy to get a clear record and just wanted to write make it obvious like okay. Yes. He he does have contact CIA. He wasn't operational contact between like he would be debriefed on his interactions and Russia. He wasn't given task. He wasn't giving jobs to do he was asked to do anything, but he would agree to talk to the CIA, our agencies after the fact. Here's what I saw wasn't wells in Russia whatever. Which? Makes them a source of sort and his role as an OC was disclosed in that was never not shown. It was the fact that. Climate change it. Specify conveniently say time but not a source source like not a real source just see. So, whatever it's all kind dom do get charged Whatever it could be. The last one say I don't think that bar they got a plea deal early and he pled to. Guilty to one charge. Yeah. Okay. I mean for all bars flaws which are many. I think all signs are he is this guy's not eager to go on A. Charging trump's enemies rampage. He's does not seem inclined to want to do that trump's pressuring him. But he knows that that's not gonNA help the overall. Goal here. So he just seems to do it and it's possible can last one I think trump is not gonna run answer, but we'll see. How that man has the time and energy to remember all of his grievances. All the vengeance that he needs to enact. Exact. It's amazing. We all woke up. Happy. When ban we saw that sketch of. And in in a mask and handcuffs, I'm a little bit torn here. 'cause like on the one hand. I never. Sing Song get charged with a crime like that's. Not Something I usually take pleasure in. Something I'm like even like it's a serious matter that. Like, IT'S A. Big Deal. It's sad. There's a crime like it's not a good thing. It's not a moment of celebration. It's not something that's. Going to fix anything? But. Yeah I'd be lying. I didn't feel about. Shannon toyed with. Important. Yeah let's talk about like what he was charged. He was was he the only one charged? He and three others who three of his Co conspirators and this We build the wall scheme based on the late twenty eighteen go fund me the going around guy raise. Twenty five, million. to build the wall himself. That was the wasn't that the the former trump's lawyers. Guys need no a better end. It's just the better veteran Oh. The. Face, the CRISCO Buck Chris Quebec's let's go was involved as an attorney yet he was not charged. Dot Yet. We'll see but here's this is the actual. Information Against Bannon and his co-defendants is to charges. One of conspiracy wire fraud conspiracy to commit money laundering, and because they raised twenty, five, million from. The Wall obviously, that's going to be used. Obviously this was always going to be criminal nature like it's predictable. And They Didn't they his yacht on Chinese exiles yacht. Side note is involved in the whole Brady scheme which one did lose day is with the whole Elliott and why is not in charge? Anyway. Put that side of the moment one day, we'll get brady his his time was coming. Maybe we'll see. As bannon the these charges are based on his like really actually amateurs efforts to launder money that they were taking out of the go. Fund me money for the wall which would only go to the wall and not go to their salaries like it was really really amateurs operation I I really. Thought, the band would have been good money laundering. He should be good at it seemed like a thing that he'd be good at with. Assumed that it wouldn't matter because his people are like all the positions of power I know visit a touch them I. Guess I mean maybe like They assumed they knew enough to like want to try and hide things with a text things like Oh. Yeah. Gets also company to wire. It's conceal we're doing. I'm like. What are you doing, Dannon like this is. We expected better if I, did I really feel about Bannon. Next time. Make sure you take some while he was lying hours out within hours. Right? He posted what was the bond like five million or something? Yeah. Well. His petty scripting with him but. There were people who were talking about how on twitter on Cable News about how Oh look there's proof that bars efforts to mess with the. Southern. District of New York didn't work. The ouster of the US turney there. Berman right didn't affect operations. I came away with the exact opposite impression. This in information, the indictment. quivalent. Really let me let me concerned that the bars. Control over tapping Suny is extensive and that this may have been. The compromise. Compromise case and that Barr did allow ban and his co-defendants be charged with these like petty ass scripting crimes. I don't think this is the real criminal conduct here I don't think this is the serious conflict, the most serious conduct that was involved. And in fact, the stuff that. Case or other cases this case this case. So the stuff should have been a much bigger deal more than one of our band was doing has to do with the guy building the wall, the contractor that was used a guy named Tom Fisher. because. Now, this twenty, five, million, that was raised. Now we know at least like what five to ten million of it went straight into the pockets of Bannon and his co-defendants. So let's say they have like fifteen million left. Did this group we build the wall did build some wall built four miles of wall. It's now disintegrating by the way. At a cost of fifty million dollars, yum? So where did that other like thirty, five, million come from? The Guy. Who Built The Wall Fisher why Fisher? Spending thirty, five, million of his own money to build these four miles of wall. Well. Coincidentally I'm sure it's equipment entirely and knows not. This dude has gotten two billion dollars in government contracts to build the wall. The government wall and trump has personally and aggressively intervened in the contracting process to insist that both the US army core and officials that Fisher get this contract, which is insane and alarming on. So many levels even side from the band graft and you add that in and what you have is a case of. A contractor giving thirty five million dollars to help the campaign manager of the trump campaign. Engage. In. This. Gift. And then and then have the president personally intervene to give him two billion in contracts. For this wall building. Contrary to the actual. Procedure done despite the fact that this guy was disqualified from contradicts his proposals were like one not sufficient for the requirements and to not competitive in price. That's that this is an insane. Scale of like Public Corruption Anna there's not that if this a compromise indictment and and that's the extent of control that or interference a bars been able to Do over there. Does that mean that even if Steve Bannon tomorrow were to be like I am singing like a canary blow, the wide open I'm going to tell you the truth it wouldn't matter. We know they have all of their emails and communications. We know they have lots of information about what's going on here. There's no chance of wouldn't have covered Fisher activities and yet fisher. As far as we know, is not even mentioned in the complaint in fact how there is. Like a contractor a whatever they call it. So there was a contractor who helped the money laundering occur and the only known contractor is. Fisher. So he could have actually been identified information as having engaged in criminal conduct it. He's not named and there's no reference to his. Involvement. In the the real quote unquote. But but it is basically a possible match scenario where this was not an influence operation where it was. I mean seriously like fishers giving thirty five million to build a wall abandoning co and he's never once like, Hey, y'all should maybe use your connections to trump to put in a good word for me. Of course that happened Being the lobbying violations are obvious the laundering by Fisher is obvious and I. Personally, I'll also still do not understand how private money can be used to build like government property. It's not building I mean you can the government basically they bought some land and built a wall on it, which is legal. You can do that, and then the just calling the the wall. It's they bought some land on the border. Wall you can do that like there's nothing. They got the permits to do it. Maybe they bribed officials those permits who knows I want check into it now. But of course, the walls falling apart anyway. So it wasn't even like a good wall, the four miles. But. Like this is this is like terrifying. This This sort of influence operation is happening and. As far as we know, it's just being shut down. Because Obama did his bad abandons codependence dead is serious conduct people were defrauded. But like okay. Seriously like the people who gave money to this group like really didn't think Panin and Co, we're going to take some money as a salary of course they were like. It's still fraud, but like it's it's not the most egregious fraud I haven't really seen any outrage from the folks who donated though I haven't seen the victims of crime. I'm not sure call themselves victims like this is not. This is this is. Also I don't think. They're asking. Somebody like it's it's kind of questionable the wrong word for it, but it's not the the crime century here. It's basically the money laundering a real crime that that was some. Dumb stuff and that's definitely criminal but like the actual fraud here is. The victims were willing and apparently not even as far as I can tell, Evans actually annoyed by it. So the real issue here is that public angle and yet we may never hear the word about it. Maybe. Maybe. This is something that a new administration could be like Oh we're GONNA. Take a look into it now. Oh, that that's true. But in terms of the Bar control over the Oj I know some people were thinking could be like the preliminary indictment in that may be more becoming dowager pillow flip. Reading that that information? I don't think. So I think this was the compromise where Suny Was GonNA charge someone and yeah and the day they don't really care gets charged so I wouldn't do I would love to hear those conversations. Yeah. It's gotta be tough Berman. Berman like Muller is a by the book prosecutor and he's not going to weigh in on this another. So we have no way of knowing what happened. a couple of things happening court. We've got these Sivan's subpoenas. Yup. That's still ongoing of course, print court ruled that. New, York could subpoena trump's tax records. So they continue with that and then trump responded and. Argued before the court, the court that okay. Well, maybe there could be some subpoenas against me 'cause that's what's important to said, but this one is overbroad and improper and can't be done. A Trial Court said Oh. No hello. No, no. NOPE try go So then of course, trump appeal. So that's going to the second circuit beginning of next month. So you know we could probably spend a few more years go on back and forth between Supreme Court Trial Court Pellet courts until the sexiest resolve one day and like twenty three no my God. Well, in the meantime, the Attorney General has also open an investigation right or have they actually brought charges on this well, this is the New York ag this is the ants. So the subpoenas that we're on for trump's tax records that was part of a criminal investigation that was a grand jury contemplating criminal charges against certain individuals possibly like including trump the New York attorney general suit we've found about week is civil nature. It's an investigation by the new. York. AG In. Possible like tax avoidance and other issues by the trump organization and as part of that, they have sought records from the trump organization looking into. A few of trump's properties namely, his Forty Wall Street building. The Chicago. Tower he built an property in Bedford? New York called seven springs. In this, the the motion they brought this week was to compel production because. So far surprise surprise the trump organization step forthcoming documents who could seem that coming. Yes. So this investigation has to do with the the loan fraud potential on fraud and tax avoidance. and. For me the most interesting part of it was that apparently Ellen. Weisberg who's the CFO trump was Asian Did agree to interview with the, new? York? AG. And before this the trump. Refused to produce documents about various tax and loan issues by saying Oh. CFO Weisselberg will tell you all about it. He can confirm that we pay those taxes. He confirm that we did all that stuff legally and they get this interview with Wiesel Bark and he says like Oh no I no knowledge of that. I have no personal knowledge of that cannot confirm any of this. So. Their attempt to dodge producing documents obviously backfired burden backfire just flops. So now the is pursuing documents themselves. And here's why this is interesting because the stuff you're looking into stuff that I've been wanting for a long time and kind of think, we never get answers for but particular the Chicago Unit acquisition mystery may finally resolved this is that weird? Entity created two, thousand, six and that we know from trump's EFI. See disclosures he owes fifty million dollars or more debt to, and we don't know who or what are why and. It's bizarre because trump owns this company. So how does he? Have A. Fifty plus million dollar debt to accompany he owns. What it like this with is a time when trump's cargo tower starting to fall apart, he owed about one hundred, fifty, million dollars to a group of predators. Maiming ladder capital and for some reason in a bizarre sort of. Agreement latter, agreed to let trump by pay off this debt for forty, eight million. Now it's one, hundred, fifty, million, dollar debt. Trump gets forty, eight million pays off the creditors of that and creditors. Cool. That's fine. That's that's all right. which makes no sense. But assuming it happened that way which I have doubts about something did happen that way. That means trump had one hundred, million dollars income of forgiven. Debt is income for Tax Burmese. So. Trump should pay taxes on one, hundred, million dollars and. What may have happened is that instead of doing that trump US Chicago unit acquisition entity to sort of laund- her the loan forgiveness. And basically park it away in claim that the loan still exist and therefore was not forgiven. And that this entity exists solely to have on paper a debt obviously, it's never going to get paid. Now that's the most probably the most plausible and. More boring inflammation of what happened now, still criminal because he's still tax boarding. What I'm curious about is if it really wasn't forgiven debt in the first place because it seems bizarre to me but circumstances that latter would've agreed to write off one hundred dollars either way. The New York AG is looking into it and you know. Maybe by twenty, twenty, three eleven answer there to just twenty three. This is the investigation in which Eric Trump just said I refuse to comply with subpoenas and implied that he was like invoking the fifth. So there's a couple of other issues that the eighties looking into and they're being the seven springs property, which is trump's like decrepit crumbling mansion What she bought for seven point five million in the late ninety S, and now claims for purposes, financial records, and for purposes seeking loans apparently. Claims Worth Two hundred ninety one, million dollars I. Was GonNa say Oh my God. Yeah. He also claims when he gave some of the land from this mansion away to Nature Conservancy It was worth like twenty, one million and he claimed that the tax deduction when the whole property was not worth twenty, one million like seriously this is not even a real like place you can't live in the building. It's that falling apart like Eric Don Jr. used to live in the colleges on the premises during the summers because those were operational but the rest of it is just kind of a decaying mansion. BEDFORD NEW YORK. It's the one where when trump would gadhafi. Came to the UN. Trump like made money. Good hoppy intent. Mansion of his so got it. Got It. Okay. Anyway. It's a big weekend. Trump financial records news. Talk about the Republican Party Platform, we didn't talk with us. at the top of the show RNC but this was just released yesterday right? Can we please talk about this? I? Think this is a fitting end. Episode Shocked know what you want. Okay. Can I just ask you how you understand this is this them to saying we just give up there's just no point whatever trump wants we got it or is them saying? He you know what? He's not going to win. We're not going to the effort doesn't matter. It's not that I think in some respects is actually a recognition of reality, which is that the platforms matter at the policy doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. So why pretend they're just cutting to the chase because Is what trump wants, what trump wants to do. So why even waste time and resources and energy fighting or arguing invading within your own party on like a you know a forma policy statement when in day everyone involved knows. It doesn't matter what trump wants to see happen. So. That's the one page resolution right there resolved. The Republican Party has and will continue to enthusiastically support the president's America first agenda, that's it. That's it will adjourn without adopting a new platform until twenty twenty four. So. I mean. In the Republican Party. Now, literally is the Party of trump not only are like half the featured speakers at the convention trump's. Trump's girlfriend. Junior's girlfriend clarify. We have the platform which is actually whatever trump wants. You know it's not GonNa go after trump you know von count junior it's just not. So I had. The horrifying realization and it was like week or two ago I was talking to my husband and. As like. Wait. What like okay. Assume that like somehow. Biden wins and trump just accepts it. And there's you know smooth power. That doesn't mean trump's going away. Because of that happens he's just running for twenty four. WHENEVER GONNA be free of this chaos how? Yeah that's what I think I think we're never going to be I feel the chaos is here to stay through him through his kids. It's just here to stay. Even if he loses he's not going and he'll be running for twenty four newly think. So unless he's idea something unless these cuts a deal and unless he runs off to Russia or Saudi I mean. If some respect I, mean, he has to run twenty four claimed political persecution. If he's not still political actor, then he can't Klay an idea Susan I. Think he's already had these ideas long before I I'm putting them out there. Oh. Canadian like immigration in order. All right. All right. Well, thanks so much for the update and continue to stay safe. Stay away most craziest doors. And all of you to the same day mass stay home and we'll be back in two weeks. All right takeout see all then.

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Day 740: Trump's intel chiefs contradict Trump on national security threats

The 11th Hour with Brian Williams

44:03 min | 2 years ago

Day 740: Trump's intel chiefs contradict Trump on national security threats

"Tonight. A remarkable sight the nation's combined intelligence chiefs all in one place all of them in disagreement with the president of the United States. No mention of any crisis at our southern border. Instead some dire threats from places like North Korea, Russia, China, Iran, and ISIS, the Roger stone show moved to Washington where here Pierce before a federal judge with a plea of not guilty right before he did the Nixon wave outside of court where his next appearance is three days from now, and where the judge might not take too kindly to Roger stone the event, and the increased isolation of Donald Trump a veteran Washington. Journalists walks us through just how many people have chosen to walk out of this west wing as the eleventh hour gets underway on Tuesday night. Well, good evening. Once again from our NBC news headquarters here in New York day, seven forty of the Trump administration gave us a stark picture today. And a stark view of the reality of the world, we live in that's because today our top combined intelligence chiefs, the people who define their job as keeping us safe. The director of national intelligence the FBI the CIA presented their annual worldwide threat assessment to congress serious business their assessment of nearly every major threat is vastly different from what we have heard from their boss. Our president. This was essentially a public repudiation by his own people of Donald Trump's world view in particular, what he has said about Russia, North Korea, Iran, and ISIS Trump has gone to great lengths to avoid casting. Russia and Putin as adversaries for starters. Here. Now, a reminder of what he has said about the Kremlin's efforts to interfere in our elections and society, and what his intelligence team said today. I have great confidence in my intelligence people. But I will tell you that President Putin was extremely strong and powerful in his denial today is Russia's still targeting president. Crumlin is stepping up its campaign to divide western political, insecurity institutions, we expect Russia will continue to wage its information war against democracies into use social media to attempt to divide our societies. Not only the Russians continued to do it in two thousand eighteen but we've seen indication that they're continued to adapt their model and the other countries are taking a very interested. I in that approach even as the Intel chiefs laid out the threat from Russia today, we learn that Trump has apparently had another previously undisclosed private exchange with flat, Amir Putin. That's an addition to a similar exchange back in twenty seventeen the summit in Germany and their one on one in Helsinki. This is from the financial times they're reporting today, quoting a Russian government official that Trump and Putin talk for about fifteen minutes at the last g twenty gathering and Argentina and that they discussed. A number of foreign policy issues. The paper reports that once again, no translator. Or no taker from the US team was present. And the State Department has declined to discuss any details of the meeting. Well, today, the director of national intelligence was asked about these private meetings. According to press reports Donald Trump met privately with Ladimir Putin. And no one in the US government has the full story about what was discussed director hassle and director coats would this put you in a disadvantage position in terms of understanding. Russia's efforts to advance its agenda against the United States. Look forward to discussing that in a closed session. The Intel chiefs had sobering assessments of North Korea's intentions toward the US. Trump for his part expects to hold his second meeting with North Korean dictator Kim Jong own late next month in a second round of talks aimed at getting rid of nuclear weapons, again, please note, the differences here between Trump and his intelligence community. We have with North Korea. We have a very. Good dialogue. I'm going to not go any further than that. I've just going to say it's very special. We've made a lot of progress that has not been reported by the media, but we have made a lot of progress North Korea will seek to retain its WMD capabilities in his unlikely to completely give up its nuclear weapons and production capabilities because it's leaders alternately view nuclear weapons as critical to regime survival. The regime is committed to developing a long range nuclear arm missile that would pose a direct threat to the United States. Another topic now on the threat from ISIS. There was also a big Gulf between the view from the west wing and what we heard today. We have one against ISIS. We've beaten them and we've beaten a badly working out very well knocking the hell out of ISIS. The group has returned to its guerrilla warfare roots while continuing to plot attacks and directed supporters worldwide ISIS is intent on resurging and still commands thousands of fighters in Iraq and Syria and on Iran. The Intel chief say Tehran is still abiding by the nuclear deal despite the US withdraw even though the president continues to criticize it what we've done to Iran since I've become president is rather miraculously, I ended the horrible week Iran nuclear deal at the moment, technically, they're in compliance. But we do see them debating amongst themselves as they failed to realize the economic benefits they hope for from the deal. Notably. Absent today any word from the. Intel chiefs to back up what the president just addressed the nation about from the Oval Office first time in his presidency, a crisis at our southern border with Mexico. Remember that the New York Times reports this about the written report that accompanies their accompanied their testimony today at the hearing, quote, notably missing in the written review was evidence that would support building a wall on the south western border. The first mention of Mexico and drug cartels was published nearly halfway through the report following a range of more pressing threats earlier on this network. The vice chair of the Senate Intel committee was asked about the disconnect when viewing threats to the US. I think you've got the intelligence community giving virtually unanimous conclusions on some of these key key areas, and we have unfortunately, a case where it appears that this president doesn't want to hear the truth or doesn't actually reflect the opinions of the intelligence community and that puts us in a challenging position. Let's bring in our leadoff panel. Shall we for a Tuesday evening, Philip Rucker Pulitzer prize winning White House bureau chief for the Washington Post? Frank Figliuzzi, former FBI assistant director for counterintelligence win the past has worked for Mr Robert Muller. And Mika oh Yang veteran. Washington. Attorney former staffer for the house Intel and armed services committees. Good evening and welcome to you both Frank you have run Intel I have not. But then I ran across this sentence in their prepared report tonight. And this gets your attention. Makes you want to check the calendar that it's not nineteen sixty-nine China and Russia are more aligned than at any point since the mid nineteen fifties and the relation. Ship is likely to strengthen in the coming year as some of their interests and threat perceptions converge. Again, given your experience in the job Frank what stood out to you today? Most. As someone who has actually helped Taraf the counter intelligence portion of these reports in past years that phrase jumped off the page at me, Brian the notion that our number one and number two adversaries, China and Russia are now collaborating more than they have in half a century working together against us was very very sobering. For me, those combined forces are are a major threat to the United States when they trained together when they do ops together when they align their strategies and objectives together, we're going to get a double barrelled approach toward the United States in the west during a time when perhaps we have the most ill-equipped president from receptivity wise to the intelligence community ever in our history that is significant end the testimony today from our intelligence chiefs, presented more than ever before the. Parity the growing disparity between the ground truth that they presented and the planet that this president lives on and it begs the question, Brian is this a president who not only is part of an unstable world that an unstable time. But is he rather contributing to the instability of the world because of his choice to ignore the Intel from the career professionals makeup, please help to explain this disconnect to the folks watching tonight you've been in your share of Washington briefings, would the president not be briefed given a copy of at least they're written testimony. Have it read to him? Have it conveyed to him in some way? Not that. That would explain the disconnect. Now, it doesn't explain the disconnect, and it is actually quite troubling. Because this assessment that we saw today is the some summary of all the intelligence reporting that the community is producing all the time every day and the president's day. Early brief should reflect all of these judgments all the time. So this point all senior administration officials have heard this on multiple occasions. And so not agreeing with these conclusions is willful disregard of the facts as the intelligence community has been gathering them for over the past year. And really since the start of this administration, and Phil Rucker think of the coverage newspaper business in the television business gave this president's Oval Office address. You'll recall we all build it correctly as his first use of the backdrop the power of the Oval Office for a nationwide address, we covered it or tried to straight down the middle that topic the national emergency. We were facing as a people nowhere to be found on the list of their top security priorities today. That's right, Brian. And it goes beyond that one night in the Oval Office for the last forty odd as President Trump has only been talking about one crisis. And that's the crisis that he. Sees at at the southern border with illegal immigration, and yet we heard today from the intelligence professionals from the people that President Trump himself appointed to lead our nation's intelligence agencies that there are much greater crises. Elsewhere that there's a crisis in North Korea that there's a crisis in Syria still with ISIS that there's a crisis with Iran, and that there's a real growing crisis with China and Russia perhaps converging to really do danger and harm to our country. And President Trump has not spoken about any of that we've heard over and over and over again about the security and humanitarian crisis with Mexico about the rapes about the murders about the people who are coming over the drug lords that are bringing narcotics over the border. But we've not heard him focusing on those either global threats, and indeed he's been talking a lot lately about how great the relationship is between him and Kim Jong UN and North Korea talking about how North Korea's no longer pursuing nuclear weapons. They are no longer a nuclear threat, and that is simply not true based on the intelligence assessments that we heard today in congress Frank I projected, I surmised at the top of the broadcast tonight that if you ask these three professionals who testified today bottom line of their job description, and what they probably feel in their private hours at home in the evening is protecting the American people at the end of the day bottom line. My question to you is what's it like to do that job? When at worst, you have your work contradicted or ignored. And at best your work is let's just say minimized by this president. Creates a scenario Brian where your adversary is not just the bad guys around the world. But rather you begin to start feeling the White House as your adversary? You want to believe that that chief executive has your back if you act in good faith, you want to know that the boss has got your back. And I don't think that feeling is there, and it's going to translate into budget requests, not being backed by the president. When you read the sobering report when you hear the testimony today, and you look at the cyber security risk. We're facing well into the future well into the twenty twenty election that takes money that takes resources and to make that happen. You need the chief executive officer of the United States to say, I've got you. I've got your back. I want congress to fund you. And we don't see that happening. Meek coming off of francs point. I wanna play you exactly the portion where the. Rector of national intelligence. Dan Coats, talked about the danger to our next presidential election. We'll discuss on the other side, we assess that foreign actors will view the twenty twenty US elections as an opportunity to advance their interests. We expect them to refine their capabilities and add new tactics as they learn from each other's experiences and efforts in previous elections and make a how cannot not be a national emergency. And it's certainly a national emergency, especially when you couple that with our understanding of what Russia's intentions are for the United States, which are to sow chaos and discord, and when you look at what this present policies have done seven. So in this report that his policies are in fact, driving our allies away from us. You can see how foreign adversaries who want to bring America. Low would work very hard to see that this presence reign of chaos continues. And that is really troubling for Americans who would like to return the country back to a path of stability and leadership in the world back to you. Frank briefly just to get your level of concern about twenty twenty and do you feel a kind of generic concern over the integrity of our presidential election? Do you feel that worsens if Donald Trump's on the ticket? I think the cat's out of the bag with regard to the ability of our adversaries, and their understanding now that they can mess with our election outcomes. Let me put it this way just merely messing with our perception of the credibility of the electoral process is enough to throw us into chaos perhaps in twenty twenty. And as the chiefs said today, they they are Morphing their their methodology. They've learned their mistakes, they were very sloppy and blatant in some regards, right, we've indicted over two dozen Russians for social media propaganda hacking. So they're getting better and better at getting it. Right. And we're we seem to be still stumbling to find our way on how to defeat this threat. And without the backing of the Oval Office to do it. We're behind the curve, Phil Rucker. You get the last word tonight wasn't this day kind of quintessential emblematic for the administration. You have the rigor of office and response. Ability, and the weight of these titles and all their life experience in this testimony today at the other end of town, we look at a White House silent on this topic. That may indeed decide when we wake up tomorrow or overnight tonight to go off in another direction on any one of these fronts. That's exactly right, Brian in and another front is that the possibility that the president might declare a national emergency at the border in order to use his executive authority to redirect money from other defense projects toward building the wall and fulfilling that signature campaign promise that it's probably. I don't believe that the the intelligence officials testified to this today, but it's safe to guess that that would be a potentially disturbing prospect to them because they're dealing and facts in sort of intelligence gathered on the ground. They see a lot of cause for concern. Elsewhere around the world, and what you have in President Trump is a commander in chief who's focused. So exclusively at the moment on the wall on fulfilling that promise on keeping his political base together. And it's considering this national emergency declaration, which could happen any day. Now, a really serious day and our country just heard expressed by our three terrific initial guests tonight, Phil Rucker, Frank Figliuzzi, Mako Yang. Thank you, all three of you. For starting often coming up as expected Roger stone pleads not guilty in court today. He then called into one of his favourite talk shows describing the case against him as a lynching just how will that go over with the feds who are watching and listening and later a freshman member of the house of represent. Gives already in a position of power. She is with us tonight. With a preview of what the president can expect the eleventh hour just getting started on a Tuesday evening. The truth of the matter is that even though I'm accused of lying when I get Adam Schiff on this, Dan when I get Eric's well on this day, and when I get other members of that committee on the stand I'll demonstrate that they're the ones who are lying. Not me. That's from Fox News tonight. Just within the past hour, President Trump's friend of forty years Roger stone appeared in federal court today. For to make out all that's being said there, but he entered core through a crowd of both supporters and protesters in court he entered via his lawyer plea of not guilty to seven counts including obstruction witness tampering. Lying the charges stem from the Muller investigation into Russia before during and after the hearing stone said very little a departure from the kaleidoscopic appearances. He has made in different venues different outfits on different networks since his arrest before dawn on Friday stone did manage to get his signature Nixon wave in then about an hour after the hearing stone called into the conspiracy. Theorist Alex Jones on info wars to once. Again, trash the case against him. This is this is a legal lynching of me because you're impo wars because I'm friends with Alex Jones 'cause I support Donald Trump on it supported import president. And I still support it. Let's talk about it in back with us to do that tonight. Two of our best on this topic. Julia, Ainsley NBC news, national security and Justice reporter was stationed outside court for today's proceedings and Chris mcgarry and reporter for the times who has been detailed to DC exclusively to cover Russia's special special counsel, Robert Muller, he managed to get a seat inside the courtroom today. So we have it all covered, and Chris I'd like to begin with you after this kind of traveling. Roger stone's show that even first time viewers have come to know since just Friday, even if you haven't seen the Netflix documentary, what was his bearing and demeanor like in a federal courtroom that can serious you up really fast. Inside the courtroom. It was unlike any setting that we've seen Roger stone in he walked in very quietly. He said almost nothing he was very subdued. And that's not how you expect to see Roger stone. He's very bombastic. He's very loud. He's prone to say outrageous things the only things we heard him saying courts they were. Yes, your honor. And that was just about it. Julia. I wanna play for you, a more of what Roger stone said to info wars today. We'll talk about it on the other side. Could related to the government will move to gag me. But if I hurry to remain silent under the constitution. I also have a right to defend myself, and I make a living writing. And speaking speaking, Iran info wars, so they would be depriving me of making a living. If I am entirely guy. So we will we will oppose that. Julia. We love the word kaleidoscopic. And that also describes the power that federal judges have they have kaleidoscopic powers in our society. Let's talk about the possibility that the next time he goes into court on Friday, he gets hit with a gag order. It seems like he's gunning for it Brian. I mean today he just went before a magistrate judge for simple arraignment tomorrow on Friday. He'll go to Amy Berman Jackson. She's the same judge is overseeing the Manafort case in that court. She's known to want to keep things sort of insular in her courtroom. She does a lot of meetings at the bench. She keeps a lot classified. She always. Approves things under seal. She knows how high profile and how important the molar case is. And so it would seem that she could move toward a gag order, especially as he goes out and continues to talk about the case continues to drum up support. You could see the tension today between the stone supporters and those who are against him outside of court and the idea that he makes his living off of talking. I mean, yes, you can you can gag someone from not talking about the case, maybe not gag them from talking entirely, but it shouldn't be anybody's living to talk about the case in which they are defendant in a criminal trial that seems like it would be hard to do. So at this point, the only people he's not allowed to talk to or witnesses in the case. And that is pretty a pretty easy conclusion. We can see why the judges have drawn that so far because of the incredible intimidation that he gave to witnesses to try to keep them from testifying to congress that was. On the indictment, but it could be when he goes to court on Friday that we see an actual gag order where he's not allowed to talk about this anymore. Julia up been one day ask you about this theory that a seven count indictment was designed to get them in get him into the system that our favorite phrase that pays superseding indictment may becoming with something more substantial sizable, can you give the lay people's version of that explanation? We have seen superseding indictments in other defendants that have faced charges under special counsel Muller. Rick gates, Paul Manafort, come to mind, a lot of times is when they're combining different districts in their investigations together or they have one cooperating witness whose given up more information with Roger stood. I don't want to speculate that there's necessarily more there because I still have a hard time. Understanding why Muller wouldn't make that connection. If he had it in the Friday indictment that we saw that he knew the Roger stone knew that WikiLeaks was getting its information from Russia and that he was there. For conspiring with a foreign government to influence an election that seems like something he would have brought, but fed a lot of experts who've come on throughout this time since isn't diamond who say that maybe it is more. But the reason you might you might not included all would be if you're trying to get more cooperation from the very beginning. Roger stone has not seemed like a cooperative witness under any circumstances. In fact, he's making his living as he says by saying that he won't cooperate. Chris. I'm going to ask you hope. This doesn't call a call for a judgment on your part. But you cover all of this. We had Whitaker under the very hot French fry lights of the department of Justice briefing room yesterday. And then we have this scene today. This doesn't look again to us lay folks in the audience like Muller effort that's fixing to ramp up. It doesn't. I mean, you could you could argue it's so hard to tell because the Russian investigation has been something of a black box. And it's hard to really get a clear view of what's happening. You could argue that because Robert Muller hasn't laid out a more extensive case against Roger stone. The what he has so far that there isn't anything else there, and that may be the end of the line for the Muller investigation. But there really are. So many unanswered questions that we still have things involving Mike Flynn's things involving Rick gates things involving Paul Manafort, it's hard to imagine that Robert Mueller can tie this all with a bow in the next coming weeks or even maybe in the next month or so. It seems like there's a lot of strings left a poll, and we don't know what else prosecuted could find is a search. Roger stone's homes, as they maybe even find a way to, you know, get some cooperation have I mean, he says that he won't bear false witness against the president. But he's not ruled out talking to them in some manner. And you never really know what's going to happen with these things. It's pretty unusual for any Justice department official to give time on a federal investigation. Let alone one where no time given whatsoever. So far, it's great to be able to talk to the two of you on this case as we hope to continue doing Julia Ainsley Christmas area. Thank you both for coming on with us tonight. And coming up one of the few the new faces on Capitol Hill already is the new vice chair of the very powerful house committee. That's about to launch investigations into the Trump White House. She is with us live when we come back. The midterm elections. Brought a lot of new faces to Capitol Hill and more to the point those all important congressional committees. That would include California Democratic congresswoman, Katie hill. She represents California's twenty fifth district, which is basically the land separating LA and the Mojave desert winning her seat in congress was a net gain for the Democrats. She beat a Republican incumbent congresswoman hill spent her career before congress at a nonprofit aimed at ending homelessness at the age of thirty one. She's one of the youngest members of congress. She has quickly become one of the most powerful members of her freshman class, chairman Elijah Cummings has now made her the vice share of the powerful house oversight committee that headed I hearing of the year today. So after a more eventful day than average were fortunate to have the congresswoman with us live from Washington tonight, congresswoman, I have to say that you're. Freshman class may go down in history as having arrived to crickets you've been a member of congress for twenty six days twenty nine days. I do believe yet. This is your first week where you're surrounded by what passes for a functioning government in this country. I yes, it's very very hard to come here, and to what is pretty much the epitome of a dysfunctional government. So we're excited to start getting to work. I think that the three week deadline is hanging over everybody's heads. And we just want to make sure that we get the deal done. And then we make sure that these shutdowns and leveraging the paychecks of federal workers are not on the table any any longer. I have to ask you about presidential politics before we get into committee business because a as you might have noticed a fellow Californian Senator Kamala Harris during her big event in Oakland, California over this weekend has made it official. She's in the race for president. Tell me what you make. Well, I am so thrilled to throw my support. Completely behind Senator Harris, she has been just an exceptional leader in the state of California. And I think that she is exactly the kind of candidate that we need to show the right kind of vision that we should have for this country that we can have smart effective solutions to some of the toughest challenges that we're facing. But also do it in a compassionate way. That is inclusive of all the people that are in this great nation. And I know that she's the right kind of person to do that. So I'm really thrilled to be working with her, and I hope to support her in every way, I can show the hers campaign is picked up a endorsement from fellow California Democrat, and I want to read this to you about your party. This was written by Paul Begala today. The Democrats just one their largest midterm landslide in forty four years. They've won the popular vote for president in six of the last seven elections unprecedented in history, the Democratic Party doesn't just represent the majority of Americans. We are the majority of Americans having said that having. Established that having established your support for Senator Harris, what do you make of the entry into the race by Howard Schultz, especially these v all the fears that he could split the vote and do the opposite of what so many Democrats are hoping. Well, then I don't think it's official with Mr. Scholtz yet. So I'm I'm hoping that we see how the landscape shakes out. And you know, if I think if he wants to run as a democrat in the in the democratic primary and provide an alternative to what we're seeing from the other candidates. That's great. I really do not think that this is the time for us to to have an independent in this race. And. A good friend of mine is working on his within his campaign. I just feel very strongly about this. So I've shared that with him. And I think that we cannot afford to risk anything with Trump on the ticket this this year this upcoming year. And so, but let's not screw this up. I'm quite sure your knowledge of history has taught you how unusual and what an honor your title as vice chair of this committee at this time in history is what are your hopes and wishes for the title the committee as a platform who's on your wishlist of people you'd like to come before you raise the right hand and be sworn in. Well, I think we have to think about the committee, and if you different ways the first is that this is a committee that has the unique power to be able to uncover the truth. And that's our that's our that's exactly what we're set forth to do. And so I think we have to be efficient and affective doing so, and I there's such a wide. Purview of the different challenges that we're facing that we have the ability to investigate and go into today, we looked into the high cost of prescription drugs. That's something that frankly, I ran on very strongly was that we have to lower the cost of prescription drugs and have health care for all Americans. And we got some great testimony today. I think that it's moving towards some real bipartisan solutions that hopefully can move forward. Even though we're gonna divided government and one of the things that is very significant to me, I'm going to be on the environmental subcommittee that I'm very proud of my my colleague Harley rebel, so a Californian who's sharing that so committee, and we we need to tackle some of these challenges about how climate change is is adding to these disasters is affecting these natural disasters like wildfires in my state and across the entire country. I also I think that the effects of this government shutdown have sort of sprint Broughton brought to life. Brought to light the. The challenges that we've got around aviation and the air traffic controllers the shortages that we have I think that that's something that we need to investigate as well. And they're just a number of opportunities. I look forward over the next couple of weeks to really setting forth that agenda. It's not just about the things that necessarily make the headlines, but it's going to be about. How are we focusing on the issues that affect everyone's day to day lives? And how are we really zeroing in on the solutions that are going to make a difference at very minimum all those controllers? You just mentioned are getting paychecks for their work at long last congresswoman were awfully happy to have you on the broadcast tonight, as I mentioned a more consequential day in your committee than most certainly for you. We hope you'll come back and visit us very soon democratic congresswoman Katie hill of Amish for having me, the state of California. Thank you for being on with us and coming up as we continue the man who wants told the nation. I alone can fix it. Now finds himself increase. Piecing Lee alone more on that when we come back. Without a strong border, America's defenseless vulnerable. And unprotected we need strong borders. We need strong barriers and walls. We are pulling back in Syria. We're going to be removing our truth. We have all watched together. This president get challenged on his pronouncements often from inside his own administration for starters at the top of this hour. Remember, we heard from the intelligence community. But today we learned a defense department official was openly skeptical of the effectiveness of a border wall. Senate majority leader Mitch McConnell put forward an amendment urging that troops stay in Syria and Afghantistan also the Congressional Budget Office stands by its conclusion that the shutdown cost our economy eleven billion dollars twice the money. Trump wanted for his wall, even though the White House doesn't agree with that figure. Here with some perspective on president's facing their own internal challenges. John Harris editor in chief and co-founder of politico before that he was a veteran of the Washington Post a fellow veteran of covering the Clinton White House and surviving the Clinton White House. John went on to become a biographer of Bill Clinton, John thanks for coming on again. As always we tend to forget that President Trump lost two big ones early on Keith Schiller. His kind of go-to guy and wipe veteran hope Hicks. He then went for the first two of three chiefs of staff that can make a very big difference. His circle only tightened from there. Sure in Brian. I was struck by what you said that this Prenton alone. But if so he largely alone by choice, right because he's not expressed interest in having people who can approach him as a relative. Peer course. Nobody's appear to a president. But many continent presidents do have people who can check. Challenge them and even welcomed that President Trump doesn't seem to be in his camp. And of course, he's got a huge executive branch apparatus beneath a millions of people who extensively all work for him. But as we saw in that review, you gave at the beginning that doesn't mean they necessarily bow to his authority or to his view of the world. I think it's quite interesting. We know from tape recorded conversations president like Lyndon Johnson could not wait to use all of the available levers of the office. He would call the desk officer over at the State Department for whatever nation he had a question about that takes knowing first of all there's a desk officer over at the State Department responsible each for an individual nation. He loved doing that reaching down through the ranks. This president doesn't have that same wiring that intellectual curiosity. Well, he doesn't have the understanding of the executive branch and how it can work both the official way of how it works the org chart way, but often that quite different than the actual reality of how power gets exercise much more recently than the LBJ example. Of course, was I think the modern master of this very controversial was Dick Cheney who often would burrow down into the bureaucracy. Remember, he insisted on going to the. In person rather than having them come to the White House kind of an intimidation tactic. But Dick Cheney who had been chief of staff much earlier in his career. Probably understood better than anybody. How power actually gets exercised? And this is one of the great themes of the modern presidency, which is that. People who Stanley worked for you actually can do. They can either advance your agenda, if they feel that they're being respected and listened to or they can in all manner of ways thwarted I gotta show you these two poles from Quinnipiac, the mathematics are not good. If your name is Donald Trump, first of all this measures, the speaker of the house against the president of the United States who do you trust respondents answered Pelosi over Trump, forty nine forty two I'm guessing that'll get his attention as will this his approval underwater, fifty seven thirty eight and John that is not that's that's an excess threat to his presidency. Yes. But that also represents kind of a numeric challenge to his presidency. It's true. All the let's remember this president, and this is a pattern. We've seen in recent. With reasoning presidencies about it's much more acute in this one has got a ceiling and a floor that are not that far apart. Brian there's only so high a president is polarizing controversial as Donald Trump is going to go. There's only so low he's going to go given the solidness of his support. I think it seems to me at the moment. He's very close to that. For what does he what does he left to say in a state of the union, John, can you guess at it? This is going to be unlike any other state of the union in modern times, not many people in that chamber will share his number one priority of a wall. No, and not many people will be certainly not as fellow Republicans will be applauding the tactics that he's used over the past couple of months to try to push for that Waldman variant popular with the rank and file Republicans. And they know they lost that confrontation with Nancy Pelosi. President trump. Remember, he has been affective in this format. He was not effective in his Oval Office speech a few weeks ago. But if you go back to the his first address to congress people were saying gosh that actually sounded more like a traditional president that were custom to hearing at a an address to a joint session of congress. So. It's certainly an opportunity for him to be seen try to be seemingly somewhat inappropriate you'll white over the past couple of months. He's not been seen in a classic presidential way. He's been seen as preeminently a partisan figure and divisive figure. That's terrible place for any president to be and it's reflected in Donald Trump's terrible numbers. John harris. Thank you for coming on, my friend. It's always a pleasure to have you see probably she it and coming up what Chris Christie had to say about bad and stupid stupid people. And what ties them together in the Trump orbit for starters? If there's nothing to hide why so many lies about Russia when we continue. Former New Jersey Governor Chris Christie has known Donald Trump for close to two decades. His new book came out today, and in it, he talks about his flirtation with working for this president his brush with the inner circle of Donald Trump earlier today in this very studio. Nicole Wallace ask Chris Christie a central question. Why is it so many people around Donald Trump have been accused of lying about Russia? Why would so many people tell so many lies about Russia? What I'll tell you is what I said to to someone earlier today in my experience, bad people and stupid people lie all the time for no reason at all because it's just who they are. And if you look at this list of people Jeff Sessions is bad and stupid. Well, I don't think I don't think Jeff was bright enough to be in the position where he is such a stupid, but not bad. No. I don't think he's a bad person. I like Jeff on a personal level. I really do think he lied about conversations Kislyak. Gotta stupidity too. I think it happens to be the same light told by Mike Flynn, Paul Manafort, George popadopoulos, and everyone else has been charged by Miller, and we still know the bottom of this yet. Okay. We don't know what else about molars uncover just telling you that. I think there's another consistent strain to consider in addition to Russia, and that is that sometimes dumb and band people. Why Chris Christie was Nicole Wallace earlier today and a program note, he will be back in the studio tomorrow evening for an interview on this broadcast as well coming up what happened seventeen years ago tonight during a very different time in our country when we continue. Last thing before we go tonight. We were supposed to be covering the state of the union address tonight. Remember, the government shutdown pushed it to a week from tonight earlier today the site of those combined Intel chiefs and the global threats as they see them, and those that do not agree with the president's priorities that had us thinking of today's anniversary of another state of the union exactly seventeen years ago today in two thousand and two we were still very much a post nine eleven nation when President George W Bush called out North Korea, Iran and Iraq specifically and coined a new phrase in the process states like these and their terrorist allies constitute an axis of evil arming to threaten the peace of the world. By seeking weapons of mass destruction these regimes pose a grave and growing danger. They could provide these arms to terrorists giving them the means to match their hatred. They could attack our allies or attempt to blackmail, the United States in any of these cases, the price of indifference would be catastrophic and all nations should know America will do what is necessary to ensure our nation's security. We'll be deliberate. Yet time is not on our side. I will not wait on events while dangers gather will not stand by as peril draws closer. And closer the United States of America will not permit the world's most dangerous regimes to threaten us with the world's most destructive weapons. What became known as the axis of evil speech delivered by another president during a different time seventeen years ago tonight when the state of the union was quite different than today that is our broadcast for this Tuesday night. Thank you for being here with us. Good night from NBC news headquarters here in New York. Hi, it's Stephanie rule. If you love MSNBC where your heart on your sleeve gear up with t shirts. 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And Jordan is going to be bringing that to you in the Abe lock We're going to have a little bit later in the show Our FRIEND NATASHA. Bertrand from politico will be joining us to discuss Senator Ron wyden footnotes in not footnotes but like additional comments in the Senate Intel Committee report. That was released earlier in the week. We we've already talked to David priests former CIA and author about that and we've spoken to Frankford Losey former assistant director of the FBI about the body of of the of what was in the report. And as I was finishing parsing it last night I noticed. These widened comments at the end and I wanted to bring in an expert national security expert to talk about that so Natasha will be with us. She's absolutely an outstanding person. If you don't follow her on twitter you should Her and Kyle Cheney and Betsy Woodrow Swan. Politico is excellent news organization news outlet but as I said Oh and this Friday join us for our cocktail meet and greet if you're a patron We're going to have that at four. Pm Pacific Time It's basically on crowd source if you if you have that APP and the hosts we get up and we just answer questions like fun. Questions and we have cocktails. And we have themes. And we've had a Pajama Jimmy Jam. We've had a get dressed up FEM- and This week steam is music. However you want to interpret that music so keyboard necktie perhaps or You know bring an instrument. Whatever you WANNA do anyway. There are lots of fun. We've had hundreds of people join us on these every week. And it's it's it's one of my favorite things I look for whatever so join us for that but as I said it is time right now for Jordan to be covering that interview between the Mayor of Las Vegas and Anderson Cooper so it's time for hot notes pot notes. Hello welcome to Jordan's corn beans. I will be doing the b-block today covering an interview that some of you may have already seen going around the Internet. Some have not but now you will know that Anderson Cooper completely demolished. Las Vegas Mayor Carolyn Goodman on national television the other day. It's my hometown. Las Vegas a bit of a bummer to see the mayor being such a fucking asshole And she gave no fucks. Didn't even try to not sound like an asshole. In fact it sounded like the opposite. If you were trying to be an asshole. That's what it would look like Carolyn. Goodman the asshole emerging from an otherwise smooth. But that is Las Vegas she is the whole and it is sad because jokes aside obviously It's yeah it's the worst. It was such a crazy interview. She goes she goes on What for what I imagine was to try to explain herself further. She just got caught up in saying the wrong thing over and over and over again and she just doubles down this interview with Anderson Cooper and basically what had happened was she. She wants to open up Las Vegas. She's like everybody back to work. We need to reopen you know. The economy is suffering and my people can't take it and we need to open back up. That's a sentiment that I think everybody can at least understand right. They can understand mayors and people of cities feeling this way obviously to feel that way in the absence of any regard for what scientists are telling you is another thing and that is what she really displayed in this interview. And that's why it's particularly disappointing. But she wants to increase. She wants to Like I said reopened Las Vegas but she has zero plans to increase testing and contact contact tracing in the city which is what medical professionals and scientists everywhere are saying is going to be necessary for us to start opening places up again so cooper asks her basically about how she plans on opening up the city with no plans and This is this is the exchange that they had. Let's take a listen. First of all is someone who's pretty sure she possibly had it January. I have already been into the hospital sake. My take my plasma years. What are you doing as mayor on? I'm calling upon everyone to go ahead. If they're positive to go ahead and see if they can help be in part of the preventative or the treatment oil that will have this plasma available. What are you doing anything on testing and contact tracing? Because in order to open businesses every scientist says that well no that's far scientists and the whole thing is is that true. You're you're right fact. You're calling for businesses to reopen every scientist and person who looks. There says what we really need to do. That is more testing. You're tracing that no that can't were. We're not getting the truth. And I know over the years going back in the nineteen fifties with the atomic bomb. Don't worry about more testing in Nevada. You'll all be signed. Take a shower. The reality is the one saying you'll be fine. What we're saying is testing. Contact your words in my mouth. I said open up Las Vegas let us get started and go back as mayor. What are you doing? Or encouraged to feed their families or take care of their. I get I get the pain. That's out there. And it's real and I'm not minimizing. I'm just asking you as mayor. What are you doing to improve testing? Make it more accessible and improve contact tracing because every scientist who you say you listen to will tell you. That's what you need in order to get online as fast as possible. What are you doing? Every single email comes in with offers to give us the kits and get everything here. I send it up to the people in hospitals for them to filter through to find out if these test kits and everything that's being offered in providing you said in another talked to Los Angeles mayor. Eric Garcetti okay if you talk to Mayor Garcetti. He's doing everything he can to improve testing in Los Angeles. I think and I you said it's not your job way. No it is not part of our job. That's part of our health department. Part of our hospital jobs are labs. Those are the ones who are the experience. Roll up your sleeves helping your health department to try to figure out. My days are so full I am everywhere in this city trying to hold the hands of families and everyone else that to get them back to work so they pay for the food for their children and keep a roof over their head. We are two point three million and we so many probably close nine hundred thousand. That are out of work because wonderful cities than shut down. So that's that's insane. All of that is so insane to here. It's like I get again. I get that you want to open up clearly. A lot of people can understand that but she has no plan at all and said that. It's not even her job to have a plan. She says blatantly. It is not my job to work for there to be progress in the realm of getting vaccines done and testing done in contact. Tracing done she just blatantly says. That's not my job and that's not my problem and everybody else can deal with it. My job and I'm very busy by the way she says I'm very busy. That's why I can't look over those other things but my job is just to reopen the city and make sure that everybody's okay In the economic sense. But it's a newsflash. Everybody is not going to be okay without any sort of medical precautions. Moving forward hearing you talk like this is very scary and baffling to. It's baffling the hero. Talk like this. Then she offered up the city of Las Vegas has a control group. She uses words. She calls her people control group in the experiments of seeing how this virus works when they start bringing people back from quarantine so she's literally offering up her people as a control group it is such a scary irresponsibly worded thing to say. I don't even care what she was trying to say. She doubled down on saying things in the Shittiest Way. Just to be antagonistic. Because she felt like Anderson wasn't being fair to her or anybody. That's interviewing her right now. Really could you just keep seeing dumb shit but the call people control group and then to not own up to it when she gets called out on it is incredibly frustrating to hear So I'm GonNa it for you. Let's listen to that clip as May or are you not concerned when you see just conditions spreads this and other people become legionnaires disease? That's just what I said. And so of course. We know that we tried to work on the sensitivities of people to be responsible as to spreading any kind of germ whether it's the don't you think word in Nevada in Las Vegas social distancing? Don't you think it's worked because I mean one hundred sixty three deaths that compared to some other states? That's where for those families. Three two point three million people in southern Nevada. And we've had one hundred sixty deaths. We are sixty three the latest number extra for Nevada. That's Nevada this year hundred fifty two in Nevada. You've had in Las Vegas. You've got one hundred and fifty sixty three two hundred three hundred social distance that you would have had far more without it. Three million here. There are two point three million to overall in the state. The numbers may be off. But I know were well over to not believe so for Disney's live. We were the lion share of the population and in And the jobs when you have twenty three million and you have lost an every one of those hundred fifty. Oh my gosh it could be your own mother your grandmother your grandfather your brother your sister anybody. Everyone of those lives is a tragic loss. But when you count one hundred fifty versus two point three million you have to say we have to open up. We have to go back or bus. Drivers are but hasn't been because of social distancing that the numbers have been what they are. How do you know until we have a controlled group? We offered to be a control group. Anybody knows anything about statistics. Knows that. For instance who have offering citizens of Las Vegas to be a control group to see if your theory on social assistance wrong absolutely wrong? Don't but worse I'm out. You just said excuse me what I said was I offered to be a control group and I was told by our statistician. You can't do that because people from all parts of southern Nevada. I'm in to work in the city and I said Oh that's too bad because I know when you have a disease you have a placebo that gets the water this sugar and then you get those that actually get the shot. We would love to be that placebo sightseeing something to measure against so all data and get the placebo. You don't WanNa get the group against the placebo by the way usually gets the short end of the stick. Well you don't know. How do you know many mayor? You are a mirror. If so that was their exchange interviews about thirteen minutes long you can look it up on Youtube. The full one is there to Anderson. Sure she she ends again saying that testing is not her job at the very end of the interview and Anderson was like well. Why don't you talk to the La Mayor because he seems to have a plan for how he wants to reopen up the city and also have plans in place for this testing in for this contact? Tracing in Anderson is like you know talk to him. He's your buddy she's a yes. He is my buddy. I know him very well. We go way back. He's like okay. Good we'll talk to him because somehow he can figure out a way to work on those issues that you're seeing is not your job you know find it. Find out how he does it. You guys have the same job. Title and Anderson goes a Anderson was like well. I guess the mayor has more duties than you. Do you know like if he considers working on testing and working on contact tracing if you consider that part of his job card essentially than Anderson you know he says Well apparently you know. He has a longer job than you do and she goes. Oh yes he definitely does as if I know she gets the point. She's just being annoying. She's just being really antagonistic because she's she has a very controversial opinion that she is just going full steam ahead with and she gives no fucks at all and she's being incredibly defensive and devil's advocate he and just really really not. She's not doing herself any favors. Like if you're going to take the position that you WANNA open up sooner at least say you're going to try to work on more testing right like. That's the least you could do if your job is to be there for your people and you're saying that you need to reopen up everything immediately because everyone's suffering so much maybe sending them out into the world saying it's not your job to cover any of the medical requirements necessary to make this as safe a transition back into anyone any kind of normal where we're going to see again. At least at least you could say you could. At least say you're trying you know but you're sending your people that you say you're doing this for because you care about them out into the world calling them a control group it's so counterproductive her messaging. It's incredibly counterproductive realistically. I think Vegas just has an insane amount of hotel owners that are just very erase. Should say people invested in the hotel industry that I imagined are like constantly nagging her and she's probably getting it from all sides but I do also know that there are people involved in that industry. That don't WanNa just haphazardly. Open up because they understand that. That's not good either but I feel like the stuff she saying so nonsensical that it can't be what she just at in her heart you know wants to do. She's probably under an incredible amount of pressure from a bunch of rich people. That don't really care how everything opens up again. Because they're most likely going to be fine so they're willing to take that risk because the blood really won't be on their hands and I think this is kind of how being the Mayor of Las Vegas tends to go. You know. It's I mean it's a crazy fucking city But New York seems to be handling it. Well La is on their way to handling it well in terms of testing and how to come back from the struggles that we've had until this point when it comes to contact tracing and. I just wish that she would at least not be a complete ass about how she's she's saying all this stuff it's damaging it's you know. I know the the mindset I have a bunch of friends back in Vegas the mindset. There's just totally different than it is in California and California right now. Everybody is just super on the same page at least from what I'm seeing in terms of locked down you know if you go out and you're like oh I hung out with someone here. Everyone's like what in Vegas I have friends that are going in hanging out with other people just for funsies right now so. It's definitely a different vibe. There and I have to wonder if that's because the messaging might be coming from people like her. That are saying this this crazy shit. You know throwing out ideas like it's okay for everybody to just be a control group and getting back to this. Everybody wants to get back everybody. Obviously I'm not saying we can never get back again you know. No one's saying that no one's saying we need to be in quarantine for like ten years straight. Everybody is just saying that is trying to be rational about this. Please just keep listening to the scientists. That's all. Is that so much to ask during this science centric problem. Can we just do that? Can We? At least try to do that and her answer is no. It's not my job. So thank you Anderson Cooper for being on her ass about the dumb shit she was saying I do think he kind of tends to be a little bit too antagonistic to the point. Where it's like. Okay you're clearly just trying to you know. Get Get your jabs in. Which sometimes you know. I'm a fan of but personally it would be nice to see. Maybe you don't have to try to make her look like a Dick. She makes her look like herself. Make Look Make. She makes herself look like an asshole on her own but I do appreciate him following up on the absolutely ridiculous things that she says so everyone. If you're in Las Vegas let us know how you feel that And if you agree with my assessment of you all kinds of having like a more lax mindset when it comes to the social distancing thing that's kind of what it seems like I do know there's a bunch of people that are doing it very seriously as well. I'm just going off of what I've heard. But that's Mahat note from corn beans and mccutchen. Everybody had a great day. 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There is some new polling out and I wanted to share these numbers with you From a morning consult poll. Only fourteen percent of Americans say which would stop social distancing to stimulate the economy even if it means increasing the spread of the virus whereas seventy six percent say Americans should continue to social distance for as long as necessary even if it means economic damage. Seventy six percent of Americans not Democrats American seventy. You can't get seventy six percent of America to agree on anything but they agree on this. We should continue to social distance for as long as necessary and a Quinnipiac poll says seventy two percent of Florida. Voters say that Florida should not loosen social distancing rules. Seventy two percent of Florida says this They should not loosen rules. By the end of April twenty two percent say they should and seventy six percent say that the state's economy should only reopened when public health officials? Deem IT SAFE I. I'm assuming that means as opposed to politicians probably a wise choice. Seventy six percent of Florida voters. No Yeah Florida voters and a new Reuters. Ipsos poll Reuters and put these polls out. Seventy two percent of adults in the United States. Said people should stay at home until doctors and public. Health officials say at safe and that includes eighty percent of Democrats who are the twelve percent. That's weird that seems low fifty five percent of Republicans say we should stay at home until doctors and public health officials. Tell us it's okay. And seventy percent of independence. Big Number right there. Independent swing elections. So that is a big big number. Seventy seven and ten independence. These are encouraging poll numbers in the face of governors like Rhonda Santa's in Florida and camp and Georgia who are reopening businesses without even meeting the gate and criteria for phase one reopening set forth by the trump's by the trump task force the White House Task Force and Camp in Georgia appears to be opening businesses that require actual contact between the client and the provider like the opposite of the businesses. You would open I. And he's naming that he's like he's calling them out like body piercing shops TATTOO PARLORS. Nail salons hair salons a massage studios. I'm surprised he's not. You know opening up vomit oriels or GDP inspiration point where people make out hug city. Come to hug city and you know in the store where everyone's face but David masterson positive something more sinister on twitter. He says this is about making sure people can't file an employment. It isn't about saving lives. It's certainly not about the peak of the curve. It's not about reopening the economy. He says he thinks a lot of people are going to ignore the governor. And stay home regardless. This isn't a decision. He says being driven by Epidemiology. If there's no state order calling for businesses to be closed the people who are unemployed can no longer claim their unemployment is involuntary even if it would be utter idiocy for them to return to work a hairdresser or a massage. Therapist cannot maintain social distance. But they can certainly file for relief unless the law says they can work. So gyms fitness centers bowling alleys. Where y'all share shoes and body art studios barbers cosmetologists hair designers NAIL CARE? Artists AESTHETICIANS School there and they're beauty schools and massage therapists not banks not software firms. Not Factories not schools and he says it's no coincidence that the businesses on this list staffed by relatively poor people because that's who he wants off the unemployment rolls and then he says after they die. Well they're mostly black and Brown people or Asian people or poor people and that's an acceptable political loss for Republican governor. The purpose of this he says is not to open up these businesses. It's to get the workers there off the Dole work and die or don't work so that was a twitter thread that I read. I read it and this is just an. It's a theory you know. These are just beans. they're not my beans but I wanted to share that with you and I wanted to see what you all thought of that But that guy's name is David Masterson and you can find. It Re tweeted on my twitter feed at muller she wrote all right and and oddly trump said today in the White House press briefing. I know don't usually talk about them but this made the news. He said he disagrees with Kemp on opening up based on a model that says Georgia and eleven. Other states shouldn't open until June eighth. It is April Twenty. Second Twenty third if you're listening M- on Wednesday June eighth. This model says but trump was very soft on this. He said however he didn't mention the June eighth date any said Well I disagree with what he's doing but he's the governor. He can do what he wants to do what he needs to do. So the buck clearly doesn't stop with Teflon Don and a doctor said today. He was removed from a key. Federal Agency in charge of developing a vaccine for Corona virus after pushing for rigorous testing of hydroxy chloroquine. The doctors names Rick. Bright was a career official and he was leading the administration's push for a vaccine but says he was pushed out for trying to limit the use of hydroxy chloroquine. We'll talk about this whistle blower a little more in detail in a bit with Natasha Bertrand. But he has hired Christine Blase. Ford's lawyers and he's he's and his name is out there. He's not. He's not threatened by exposure from bill bar in his bully assholes and in another story here the head of the CDC. Dr Redfield said we're going to. He told The Washington Post. We're going to have the flu. Epidemic Corona virus epidemic at the same time that could be devastating but he said today when asked about at the press briefing that he he. He did. Say that he he actually. There's no but here. He confirmed that those were his remarks. Twice and that This spring what we just went through. We had the benefit of having the flu season. Beat over so we could. We could use all of our flu systems to say this corona virus but next fall and winter we're going to have to viruses and we'll have to differentiate between the two and he says the comments. I made Are that that will make it more difficult. Not impossible just difficult and What I was wanting to do is appeal to the public that they really can help by getting the flu vaccine so we can eliminate as much as possible because we don't have a vaccine for Corona Virus. But we do have a vaccine for flu. He he did not mention or comment on his word devastating though and at that point trump but it said that the headline in The Washington Post was wrong though And the headline said that it will be more devastating and Redfield at was asked out again. Did you mean that? Did you say that? And he he again said He. He confirms what he told The Washington Post but he did not affirm or deny that he used the word devastating but trump insisted that he did not know when a reporter a woman by the way asked Redfield. Why did you re tweet the article? If the headline was inaccurate at which point redfield just left the podium and trump pointed the woman with his index finger pointed at her and said you weren't called. You weren't called scolded her and then Burke Scott up and said she wanted to address. The word devastating. She said we've well. We've learned a lot and we're building together in the strength of the American people and their ability to protect themselves and we have this summer to prepare for the fall if cova comes back so we're preparing making sure all the pieces are in place and what Redfield was asking for was to follow the guidelines and get a flu shot trump then said but it in from the sidelines and said there's a good chance cove it won't come back in the fall so that was just a shit show. Redfield wouldn't back off of his comment. Trump called it fake news. He shut down the reporters asking about it. And then Burke said we'll be ready if it may be possibly potentially comes back and then trump added if it does come back. It won't come back in the way that it was it will come back and smaller doses. We can contain. He said what Redfield was saying if it comes back with the flu but from everything. I've seen it can't be anything like what we've just went through for everything he's seen. It can't be like what we've just went through all of these pandemics. He's been through he. He's seeing it won't be what we've gone through. In the spring at which point berks left the stage just exit stage left so trump is promising. We will not go through what we've gone through. Someone asked him. How can you know it won't come back? Worse than before to which trump answered it may not come back at all and if it does come back it's not going to come back and I've spoken to like ten different people and it's not going to be like it was ten different people. People hate the races people so trump is telling America. It's not gonNA come back in the fall. Don't worry about it comes back at all. It won't even be in. It'll be in small doses and will contain it because we know how to wash your hands now. No one ever heard of washing hands but every fifteen minutes. No one even knew what that meant. He actually said that yesterday. No one knows what that meant. Wash your hands every fifteen minutes. But now we know and we have three months to prepare so absolutely ridiculous and from the Washington Post. According to health officials in California at least two people who died early and in mid-february had contracted the novel Corona Virus and died from it. That's weeks earlier than previously thought and both patients hadn't traveled so it was contracted from community spread according to health officials. Initially the nation's earliest cove fatality was thought to have occurred February. Twenty ninth in Kirkland Washington and then one in March and in March health officials then linked to February twenty six deaths to Cova earlier deaths. Now the ones that are in early and mid February could mean cove in nineteen may have been misdiagnosed in many people earlier this year being mistaken for pneumonia the flu and also modeling like the model. That said you know we would be at one hundred thousand deaths by August. It was adjusted down to sixty thousand deaths by August but we just had an update. It's been upped to sixty six thousand deaths by August. What trump calls a win models like these rely heavily on the start date of an outbreak if date gets pushed back models have to be redone to be reviewed could increase the number of people believed to be infected right now? So this is a big deal. And we'll be right back. After this to discuss additional comments on the Senate intelligence reports by Ron Wyden and the new whistleblower with Natasha Bertrand says stay with us. Hey everybody it's ag in today's episode of daily beans is brought to you by molecule. Did you know over? 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Hey everybody welcome back joining me today for the interview with politico national security correspondent and MSNBC contributor and Natasha Bertrand and Tasha. Thank you for speaking with me today. Yeah I'm young. Yeah no problem so so. I've studying and parsing this recent report released by the Senate Select Committee on intelligence which I'd like to remind. Everyone is still chaired by Republican Richard. Burr and I've spoken to this week already spoken to David priests about it and Frank Lenzi about it and that was mostly about the body of the report. As it pertains to you know the proper predication for opening the Russia investigation et Cetera. But then I got to the end you know I just. I didn't get to the end until recently and there are these comments by Senator Wyden additional remarks and a couple things a couple of things struck me and I wanted to ask you because I know you tweeted about this He wants us to understand that. The report doesn't only support the intelligence community assessment that Russia interfered in our elections to help trump in two thousand sixteen. But he says why didn't hear says it also debunks trump's false assertions about Ukraine. How does this report do that? Yeah so one of trump's conspiracy theories since he was elected really has been that the DNC the Democratic National Committee was actually hacked by Ukrainians. And it something to do with. The group has something to do with the DNC server being in Ukraine and cloud strike being owned by Ukrainian which is not true. All of this kind of nonsense that his own advisers tried to wave him off pretty early on In his presidency. But that really just stuck with him probably because he had Putin in his ear telling him that Ukraine not Russia was responsible for hacking DNC and releasing all of those emails in two thousand sixteen. So what this report with the SEC- report does that came out this week is it definitively says that the assessment the intelligence community made in twenty seventeen about Russia's election and your parents was fundamentally correct that it was the Russians who hacked the DMC and it doesn't say that in so many words what it says is that because a lot of this report is blocked out. What it says is that they found these judgements to be analytically. Sound and that there was an appropriate amount of analysts and Good sourcing that went into this determination including the attribution to the Russians The basically the entire section is redacted including sections on motivation. But what we do then. Is We go back to the ICA intelligence near the assessment. We see what they said about. Of course the the Hammadi and see what they say is that they can attribute the cyber attacks on the political organizations. Which of course was the Democrats in two thousand sixteen to Russia? And so you know you go back. Is this your report? They say they find that to be sound. You're basically debunking the president's conspiracy theories about Ukraine Yeah and I can't help but wonder what's under those redacted par portions of Putin's role in Putin's goals in this and if it has to do with putting the blame on Ukraine. I mean we can sit here and guess what's under those forever but it's just. I thought it was very very fascinating that Ron Wyden. Just put this at the end of the report lake. Just a couple of things that I WANNA point out. I mean I think we were told that By Senator Kaine not what's under? The reductions is primarily predominantly like ninety nine point nine percent having to do with Sourcing so for Putin's motivations enroll for example. It most likely has to do with the person inside the Kremlin that the US government has been running as a source Because that's really the only way that you could get it at Putin's short of intercepts. I mean having someone near Putin and his inner circle hearing him express his preferred candidate. is really one of the only ways you can get a definitive read on on his motivation. So that that would be my guess. It's sources method stuff. Yeah Yeah and we did have that guy that was eventually pulled out a like a deep. Kremlin's by that had to come back exactly could be him could be peop- somebody would never heard of but yeah that's definitely all has to remain redacted But it's just it's absolutely fascinating and then and then and then this just freaks me out. It goes on to say and I haven't heard this come up in a while it with regards to the Russian interference he says he's concerned about Department of Homeland Security and the intelligence communities assessments. Lack of commentary on the vote tally manipulation. What does that? What is he referring to? Yes so I think what he means is that he they. There wasn't enough kind of investigation or really any kind of investigation done into whether there was any there was no forensic investigation done rates. There were intelligence gaps and there were caveats that were not included in the public version of the and that of course is alarming because the icy and administration officials have been saying for years. Now that there is no evidence that any votes were changed and that of course kind of conveyed a sense of certainty To the American public that you know they have competence when they went to the voting booth but Ron wideness. Egg is that there were serious. Gaps indeed Jesse's assessment and this to my knowledge and you pointed this out earlier is seems like it's the first that lawmakers come out and actually called D H s out on this So you know. I think it's really important to go back and recall that it's always been. There's no evidence for this. We haven't seen evidence of it. It's never been you know. This is definitively not what happened. So I think it's an ongoing saga with regard to the actual vote counts but the election structure to my knowledge has has improved a bit of twenty sixteen but it really hasn't improved as much as it needs to. Yano and he brings up. You know paper ballots. Landmark paper ballots something auditable. A paper trail Some things that people are obviously concerned about and and it's not even like That there's no evidence that they didn't even look into it and because Muller said this in his report at least from his vantage point with his investigation he's like I can't tell you if votes if the vote count was manipulated because I did not even investigate that and so and of course you know the the. There's going to be certain people who take that to mean. The Votes. Were not manipulated. But here's Ron wyden saying we don't know if they were and we need to know these kinds of things and I wanNA bring that to everyone's attention right exactly bananas. What occurred what a interesting timing to you. Know with the whole release bars release or the. Mci Rick Grenell's release of the DOJ AIG's footnotes and. It's yeah I mean. I think there's a reason why those have been selectively leaked to from journalists Of course of course the most all say about that. It was like the selective leaks of the struck page texts. You know in the middle of the night from the Department of Justice. But don't say where you got them right exactly. Yeah I mean I. I don't think anything is a coincidence. These days right so you know it. Can't it really can't be and now this last minute thing? I wanted to ask you about just because of your. I know your background rick. Bright the doctor Totally off subject here. But this doctor who is now like a live action whistleblower coming out of a federal health agency working on a vaccine. Saying I was taken out of my job because I was pushing back against Hydroxy Cora Quentin And I just find that absolutely absolutely fascinating that we have a live. Real time whistleblower. That didn't get punted by some deny are pushed aside by the Department of Justice. So I think this is going to be a fascinating story. Yeah this is going to be a big fight. Especially because I mean he hired the same lawyers that represented Christine Wasi Ford. He is clearly going very big on this like he leaked the statement. I The New York to Miami near times to ensure maximum exposure. So he is going all out. I mean when he was fired a few days ago we ERC when he was tired when he was reassigned a few days ago we all thought that was very very weird. It was very abrupt and our health folks just said that it just didn't smell right so it makes sense now that the truth is coming out on but it just goes to show that like this administration will will do virtually anything to make sure that trump looks good And that he is above all else you know seen as seen correct encinas doing. What's right in this situation? So even at the expense of actual expertise so it's going to be a an interesting storyline to follow just a personal question not personal but personally wouldn't why do you think trump pushed hydroxy. Clark when so hard I? It doesn't seem like it's a profitable drug. Do you think it was just to some way to get reelected. Like what was his motive. You know it's possible that he there are a couple of things that could be possible. The first is that he had rudy Giuliani in his ear. constantly. Who has been pushing this for weeks and weeks? Not Months as a potential cure rudy. Giuliani is someone who's extremely influential on. Who Trump really respects and he has been talking to the president for a long time about this. So that's one thing it's like. Trump has a tendency to just do in say with whoever you know whatever was locked in his ear from whoever But another yeah. Another possibility is the more cynical one which is that. He just wanted a cure and quick And he thought that it might speed things off and reopen the economy. Which of course he needs to to potentially reelected so there are a couple of reasons. The New York Times floated the possibility. Of course he has some stock in some companies that may benefit from it. But it doesn't seem like it's enough money to actually really make a difference for him but you know Kurnia them all that you really can't You can't write it off. Yeah no and maybe not an actual cure but maybe a. You know a figurative cure. That can't be disproven. You know not kind of kind of Shit. Who knows I assume some day somebody will dig it up and we'll figure it out? 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A. dot com slash daily beans for fifteen percent off. Econ WIRELESS EAR BUDS BY RECON DOT com slash daily means. You'll be glad you did all right. Everybody welcome back. Thanks again for joining us today. And now you've stuck around for it. It is time for the good news. Of course joining us for the good news block as always Jordan Coburn Jordan. How are you? I am doing well today on this fun. Earth Day it. Yeah what is a Wednesday? I forget yes. It's just a Wednesday after yes. Yeah Wednesday I'm doing. I'm doing well. I have been exercising and I think I tore both calf muscles and I have not been walking easily the last two days so I oh God walked today. Dude you and me both. I dislocated my knee the other day. The day before yeah. I squatted down to get the dog food. I wasn't even exercising. I was getting a dog dish to give her food. And I stood up and my knee was out of its socket when I stood up and as I stood up at got further out of the socket and sort of bent sideways and so I had to kick my leg really hard to pop it back in and I went on twitter for medical advice as one does and that was a mistake but I decided on a course of Ibuprofen icing it every twenty minutes elevating and then before I went to bed. I wrapped it up in. I put a bunch of CD Tiger Balm on it and then wrapped it up with a with a Nice Secure. A bandage like a compression bandage and then Had some wine and then fell asleep and then it was it was. It was much better the next day which I think was today. Maybe could've been yesterday so I yeah I'm feeling you. You tore your calf muscles. It's terrible yeah I mean I say. Tore being dramatic but The yes I I definitely did. I did an exercise for far too long and I was like my legs. Feel like they're seizing. Why is this? I'll just keep going and then I kept going? I woke up the next morning. Like fuck I felt you know. This is a bleak thing but you know in like German shepherds have their that thing when they get older and their Achilles kind of get like all floppy and they're just like yeah. There's kind of like flopping their feet around basically just trying to get around as best as they can. That's essentially me and my apartment but on but on two legs I'm fine. Sounds that sounds terrible. Yes it is a total privilege problem and I'm doing great is the short answer to your question. Good I'm glad I'm glad these are the things I have the ability to complain about. But but yes we have so much. Good good good news from all of our listeners. And we have a lot of funny quarantine confession today too. So Do You. I'M GONNA pop into it or did you have your own good news. I my only good news. Was that my treadmill got delivered and It's been assembled and now I need to wait for my need to calm down before I use it but it's here and so I'm excited about about being able to do that again because I haven't I haven't been running in in a couple of weeks you know. Yeah be careful. Are you looking up like knee? Pt Exercises and stuff. Yeah and you know. I do a lot of stretching and yoga stuff and now that I think I feel like if I have if I hadn't been doing yoga I hadn't had that sort of background. This could have been a lot worse. I feel like because they've got like good musk. Musk muscle structure around the area. That helped with the healing but man that treadmill from fucking big nude. It's either she can figure it out. I'm sure she can help. You can just walk. I couldn't find a I couldn't find a mid century. Modern treadmill confined treadmill from the sixties doesn't fit the decor and it's huge. But using what would that look just like a Martini holder on one side and the long cigarette stick on the left. Probably one of those belts that just shakes you and you stand there And it comes with a hat. That has a fishing pole of the twinkie. At the end of it just and you and you were and you wear your kitchen dress with your apron while you're on it and heels it is. It is a hill whole resistant treadmill belt to me. But that's my only good news. So now let's hear what our listeners have to say. I need the good news boost today. So let's dive in. Let's hear it all right so I from Cory Cory says my boss called me today to tell me how happy he is with the work. I'm doing and how satisfied he is with hiring me. Also I sold all of my turnips for over three point. Five million bills today in animal crossing Wuhu. What the fuck. I can't get my bell. Price of sixty nine bells interesting number. I know what's I again am unfamiliar with the concept so bells currency in the animal crossing land. I imagine yeah bells like a dollar right and you can play the stock market the S. T. A. L. K. market five buying buying turnips from Sao Jones. J. O. A. N. Sao Jones. She's a pig named Joan so sow Jones. Instead of Dow Jones. You can play the stock market by buying her turnips and so you buy them for like ninety bells a piece or whatever and you have to buy them ten at a time and then you go and you go to the store every day and ask what the price is for turnips and if it's above if it's well above what you paid for him you know. Sell Your turnips man. But you can only but they only last a week so if the price just keeps going down you know you're you're gonNA you're GONNA YOU'RE GONNA lose your ass in Sao Jones stock market interesting. How has covert affected the animal crossing economy yet? Or is it more or less unfazed the only difference is it? There's no social distancing rules but there are face masks available for sale in nooks. Crannies your story by things. Even though there's no pandemic you just choose to wear would just feel some kind of moral consistency in your own life. I like that That's Nice I'm excited to get the game. I set up my Nintendo switch. That one of our listeners gave me out of the huge amount of kindness in their heart. And I have Crash bandicoot the trilogy of Games. I grew up playing which is very exciting. And then Mario Kart eight inches. Pretty scenario carts. Good yes Okay so I gotta get animal. Crossing next is my point all right at him next up from Nikki. More animal crossing news. We purchased animal crossing for my son's birthday. After hearing about this game on this podcast and other outlets it has raised my curiosity to play it myself. My husband and I are both working in schooling from home and I have enjoyed playing this game so much that when I am done with my work for the day I kick my kids off whatever game they are playing so I can make my island a five star island. It has been a long long time because I have looked forward to play video game. That doesn't have any kind of violence and brings me this much joy. I limit my news watching after I play so I can have my good feels vibe when I start my nightly routine with my family yeah see it's I love that you just kick your kids off That's that's awesome all right. Dad's turn everybody out love that God. This game is changing the nation isn't it world Okay next from Brion. Good News and confession. I've been stress ordering comfort items for myself that I've always felt guilty for spending money on like extra books. Puzzles bath bombs cute mugs little home luxuries etc. I justify it by ordering my favorite local small businesses. I think I'm doing my part to help the local economy right right. I say absolutely that is that is correct fantastic. I gotta find. I've always I've I wish there was a sort of phonebook. Just for small businesses in like each city so you could just flip through and just source all of your stuff from local businesses. That would be so nice. I usually go to the specifically the there's a San Diego. Lgbtq plus Business Chamber of Commerce. And that's all locally owned mom and pop businesses owned by a folks there folks in our allies of the LGBTQ plus community. I like to. I like to lend my support to them. So that's where I go. And then also there is a black business bureau of Commerce in San Diego as well as a Latino one so I generally tend to search for what I'm looking for in in those first and then if I can look at whatever mom and pop shops I can find and then maybe some at C. creators or Folks who do small businesses through Amazon fulfillment You know just like that. Yeah that's great. I think Eireann when I worked in the small business office at UCSD there was a we did some work with LGBTQ group because they were just starting to recognize that label as one that can essentially get you. points with the federal government in terms of Russia's as state government. I think it was the state of California and I was GonNa Start having yells UBT Q. Procurement requirements which was really cool. And I wonder what the status of that is now. I hope that it's well on its way to being a requirement but But yeah there's tons of and there's like veteran owned ones too. I know Via Be in right. I think that's veteran owned small business. Like there's a group like that. Yeah and here is the sad part. I own a small business in. I'm a veteran and I'm not part of that. I need to get on that. Yeah totally yeah. They have We always used to go to the conferences to like present and stuff and and They always had amazing resources. And it was really cool community Anyways great news Thank you a love that health and local economies next up from Philip this past weekend my wife and I had our annual Polish feast drive-thru style. We cooked enough food for twenty four friends and had them come by to pick up their food and half hour intervals so we could sit on our porch swing and sit on our porch swing and catch up with them from a safe distance. That's fun. What an amazing idea. Yeah like a drive by dinner party. That is so fun. I just imagine you throwing Polish sausages into their window at high speeds aren't everybody opened up through and then they fly through the air and make that. Who's WHO's a helicopter sound. Yeah I can imagine it. Then that's so fun next up from high team. I'm an opera and classical singer in New York City and totally out of work. Obviously the good news is some friends have created a new opera specifically to be performed live on zoom basically they've invented in mastered an entire genre since the start of quarantine and performing in it this weekend. If you want to check it out find it on. Facebook it's called all decisions will be made by consensus which is also the title of the opera. It's weird wonderful and under fifteen minutes. Yay Awesome Awesome. That's so cool. What a great idea. Hell yeah that's beautiful. I love that went out. All decisions will be made by consensus. That's what it's called okay. Finally from Heather. Here's a good news story for you in mid February before. Most of us knew what was coming with this. Cova saying my daughter talked me into adopting a Dr for the pound. I was a little apprehensive at first because I'm not necessarily the best kind of dog owner but called me at work when afternoon and told me I needed to come to the pound as half to meet this dog. It was a fully grown Anatolian shepherd. Mix We finally were able to take her to the vet last week and we were all shocked to learn that she weighed in at ninety three pounds. That's a big Doug as we when we first. When we first brought her home we could see the trauma the stock had been through. Unfortunately the pound didn't know much of her story other than that. Someone had adopted her and returned her because they didn't make a guard dog out of her or they couldn't make a guard dog. Got Her in the beginning. She seems scared of everything. She would cower just because I stood up to fast or because I set something down the table with a clunk I would give her a treat and she would swipe it and run and hide as if she was in trouble for taking it. It took a week before she let out a single bark but now two months later. It's amazing to see the transformation. This dog has gone through after living in a kind and come home where she no. She is loved. I realized early on in the Corentin that might zoom meetings gatherings diety so I started making sure I had a good supply of rawhide bones on hand. I'm pretty sure she has come to associate my bosses voice so the rawhide bone now because she is gone from cowering Because I gave her a treat to now strutting around the living room as if that rawhide bone in her mouth is a badge of honor. That means she is the best dog ever and she is. I may be an in confident dog owners. Sometimes but I'm pretty sure she is the perfect dog for her perfect home with us. How man you gotTa Call? You GotTa Call Your boss Mr Pavlov. From now on so sweet. They're so many cool stories if everybody adopting dogs right now and cats and other animals and as really cool big hearts ninety three pounds. Y'All that's like almost nine scare emojis ways. Now I felt like throwing a scare Mucci in as measured today. Heavy amazing if he only weighed ten pounds. If all of this camera up here and saying it's been perspective shots right well. I figured since since eleven days a SCARAMUCCI that eleven pounds is. That's so funny beautiful beautiful. Thank you heather okay. Now we're onto quarantine confessions we hear you. We don't have a sound bite for that yet right. This is just going right into it. I know I feel like we needed one. Quarantine Quarantine Corny give veterans confessions. Yes or like we need some sort of a church music. Yes I was just going to say we can ask the kind of like. Oh whatever like how do you how do I can't? I can't harmonize on my own here. Obviously but settling like like hanes him How do you say that Hint? Is that a is that a Catholic thing Catholic him. Hymns get hers hymns yes precisely sleigh that would be great and we're or what's the thinking of like some sort of like nineties? There's like some song that has that music in the background. With this like sexy. They touched like beat. You're talking about it's I. I'll figure it out. Oh Oh oh you're talking enigma. You're talking about the Gregorian chant or not at all had. Yes no something like that. We could do Gregorian chant or we could even do Eddy Izard when he sings a hymn. Oh God I know from ages past hope is yeah we could. We could do any clips. I'll work on that figure out a good. I grew up Catholic. I'll find a clip okay. Perfect I'm counting on you so you didn't go to Catholic School for nothing. It was all for this moment into finally WON'T BE IN VAIN. Mine knuckles bled for you. I hope not. I got a are at moving right into it. Korte Confessions I ever member amber says. Today's the first day in about a month a quarantine that I actually sent the good morning message to my co workers. While I wasn't still in bed under the blankets and bonus. I even showered before I started work would do. That's fantastic. I love that. That's like a nice hindsight confession. That's a that's a should wrapped up in a good news. That's like it. I like it too. Yes I think everybody's working from bed if there it's so deserved. Everybody deserves to work in bed. So fucking hard. Even worked to the bone by this capitalist society forever. Take your checking shoes off all right next from anonymous a couple of weeks an accordion. I ran out of shampoo. Shave my head at the same time. I stopped shaving my legs. I went for a walk the other day. It really enjoyed the sun on my scalp and the spring breeze blowing through my leg hair and to be honest. I'm thoroughly enjoying the new. Look not only because of the economic benefits and convenience but secretly also as an f you to my boyfriend who decided to let the Xbox homeschool is kids and not help with mine. That's so funny dude. Hell from anonymous I was GONNA say. Are there pictures but probably not if it's anonymous I love that Fuck Ya at. I saw another person who shave their head and it looks dope. It looks so cool. Yeah feels ice. There's it feels so nice have you. I used to In College I like shaved half of my head when that was in and it used to feel so nice when it's like growing back in your heads off fuzzy it's the best Sauce super soft. Yeah yes okay. Next from Bronwyn. I write to you from Sydney Australia. In due to this worldwide apocalypse I lost my job a month ago so I have decided to wholeheartedly throw my technical skills into my puppy. Shoebox instagram profile. Corentin has made me become one of those people. Sorry not sorry. Ps You can follow him at Chewbacca. Underscore the underscore Labra doodle. He already follows you back. He's very politically minded. Levy is you keep me sane and informed come to Oz once this is over. I Will Cook you all dinner. Ooh Let's do it. Oh Heck Yeah I'll do that. Fuck Ya and they're in Sydney. God I want to go to Australia. So bad me too okay. Hopefully we can make that work. Thank you for the offer. Thank you for the Quarantine Confession And everybody follow Chewbacca. Underscore the underscore. Labra doodle on instagram. Okay next up from Lola. Lola says is my nightgown on inside out and also backward. Why yes it is. Do I care fuck? No yes love that. What is stitching? Anyway who cares love it finally Or No second-class from anonymous in quarantine. So far my wife is baked cakes. Rice crispy treats sweet bread. Lots of cookies and accidentally in quotes ordered two gallons of chocolate ice cream for curbside pickup. Guys I think she's prepping me for cannibalism. Yes beware that's so funny two gallons of chocolate ice cream. Oh my God I just started eight boxes of girl scout cookies based on our conversation yesterday and one of the girl Scout Councils in need was west Utah End so I ordered it from that specific one because they They basically when you go to the website it gives you a list of Girl Scout Councils that need the most assistance and you can pick from that list cool. That's great I'm going to open that Tabah. My Browser an assignment forget actually toward some fucking cookies Okay and finally we have a quarantine confession from I don't I don't know if they WANNA be anonymous or not. This one came through twitter. Dm So I'm just gonNA keep doing on us but this person said my library posted a meme joking about how everyone has memorized library card member number now because you needed to check out yearbooks but they also use your library card number in your last name as the Default Sinan you change your password later so I was reading the replies in every time a trump supporter replied with card number. I put the Miller report on hold for them and it is delivered immediately to their ear reader as the library has unlimited copies. I know it's wrong. I was frustrated. I love that first of all. First of all trump supporters go into libraries. All right okay. Yeah that's true. I do feel like this is a nice alternative to going and stealing trump yard science. Which is what my drunk itself has done in. My acts of protests in this is much more productive. At least people learn lance this way. You're not trespassing with this one. Yeah what if like? What if? What if she did that or he? I'm not sure sorry who this person was. But what if they photo shopped by Reagan onto it? Do you think that would make a difference? Mullah report written by the mother of Ronald Reagan by Ronald Reagan Muller. I Bet I bet that. Would I swear to God if you changed that people? There's a decent chunk of people that would pick it up in read it. It'd be amazing. Just throw in a couple like reaganism. 's In there you know more or less as long as you get the point across really all that matters. No one's GonNa fact check any of it really the part about Ronald Reagan writing. At least yeah you could put right in the beginning that you know The Russians hacked the election from the Shining City on the hill. And people would go yeah. That's Reagan yeah there's GonNa be. He's GonNa have to be a lot of gaps in historical knowledge for this work but I have rain still being alive for one exactly. That's the that's the first one. I have faith in the readership though. I think they can not know things will enough for this to work Oh and by the way. Thank you for all of your confessions. I do now have the best a clip for the segment and so you will have already heard it by the time. You're hearing me tell you this but now you can go. Yep that was. That was the best thing that you could have picked a G. You're absolutely right so it's going to be great. You'll see or you will have seen. You will have seen already. What does that the past present? Perfect tense something that something. That hasn't happened yet but it will happen but is in the past but is in the future. We'll we'll have so weird. Yeah especially since we're prerecording. That's a whole new second. Return him to it. That hasn't been hasn't even been invented yet. What if you prerecord something for the future? That hasn't been played yet but it's something in the recording that refers to something in the past in the recording but in the future too. When you recorded what is that That sounds like star. Wars Shit sure does all right. Yeah we'RE GONNA have to go back in time and get some wheels to save the planet. I think is what's going to happen. Speaking of on Earth Day I watched a documentary on a Disney. Plus if you have it that's all about fuck I forget what it's called. I'll have to find it but it's it's a documentary about a woman who's dedicated her life to see conservation essentially like conservation of coral reefs and sustainable fishing and shit like that and basically throughout the course of the documentary. They're looking at and convincing people to essentially expand a protected part of the ocean around so that it's like did I talk about this. I may vary talked about this. I don't remember either way. It's basically like creating a national park in the ocean and they wind up being successful at the end Obama winds up signing it into existence. So that's that's pretty fun. Earth Day Nature Doc. If anyone's looking for something to watch celebrate I it. Sounds like it's a happy ending to it does which is really really nice. There's a couple happy ending things excellent. Which is it's not all just bleak. Good then yeah watch that. If you have a chance today. Las You about looking that up to all right. Well that is the good news and our corning version. Thank you all for sending a menu knew how to get hold of us by now and send those into us and thank you for all of your support and for listening. We really appreciate it and I just. I can't thank you enough. Thanks Jordan for joining me. Everyone please take care of yourselves. Take care of each other. Take care of the planet and take care of your mental health. I've been gee I've been Jordan Coburn. Them's the beans daily beans executive produced and directed by AG. And Jordan Coburn and engineered edited by Mackenzie Mozelle and Star Burns. 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Morning Joe 8/24/20

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Morning Joe 8/24/20

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The American people remember Ronald Reagan. Was seventy-seven when he left office would be seventy eight entering office and you have said yourself that you are a transition candidate. Does that mean a one term president? What does that? mean. So you're leaving open the possibility you'll serve eight years. I WANNA turn to the blistering attacks. We've seen from president trump just this week alone on your mental fitness whether you're up for the job. His campaign is called you diminished. And I'm curious how you respond to that watch me Mr President Watch. Me Look at as both. What we say what we do what we control. We know what kind of shape we're in come on this look I. Think it's a legitimate question to ask anybody over seventy years old whether or not they're fit and they're ready but I just know I can say the American people. It's a legitimate question to ask anybody watch me. Good morning and welcome to morning. Joe It's Monday August twenty four th with us we have host of MSNBC's politics nation and president of the National Action Network. Reverend. Al Sharpton also NBC News Capitol Hill Correspondent and the host of K. CDC ON MSNBC Casey. Hunt we've got White House reporter for the Associated Press Jonathan, will Mir, and columnist, and associate editor for The Washington Post. David Ignatius and Willie have the morning off. David. I just want to start with you really quickly this morning you wrote a striking column last week about just an absolute bombshell of report that the Republican Senate Intel Committee put out. And perhaps it was because of the convention perhaps people just want don't want to talk about Russia anymore because they're so tired of it, but it is extraordinary because all of the questions that we had. So many of the. Let me just say. So many of the questions that we had that went unanswered by the Mullahs report were actually answered by Republicans including. Wait. Why didn't trump? Why. Weren't there charges? Why didn't molar push for charges against Don Jr. and Jared Kushner a lot of people have been asking that question we've found out the Republicans had sent a criminal referral for those two. So a lot of unanswered questions by Muller. That we're actually touched upon by Rubio's committee. Joe Was a devastating report. Deserves to be read much more widely than it's been. It's important first of all, because as you said, this is a committee that's led by Republicans, this is not a democratic hit job as a partisan fight. This is an attempt has taken almost four years to go through the facts of Donald Trump's. Campaigns dealings with Russia and it's overwhelming the evidence in in particular about the former campaign chairman, Paul Manafort in his dealings with the person who was identified flat out in the report as a Russian intelligence officer who feeds over time more and more information to Manafort who elicits from manafort information that's valuable to Russia who tries it every turn to to do? Russia's business through this trump campaign conduit. There are other Russian intelligence cutouts, people that the Russians had used their named the specific details of what they did are all contained in this in this report. When I finished reading it I felt this as you. As you suggested earlier, this is what we needed from Muller. We needed a clear statement of what the Russians have been trying to do with the campaign never could never came the Muller version was very hard to Parse, and we needed this in the impeachment process. We need something much more wide ranging the gut to the basics of how people have tried with some success to manipulate the administration just finally. Joe. The. The most devastating piece of the Senate Intelligence Committee report written by Republicans authorized by Republicans was the allegation that Russian manipulation through Manafort and others in the trump circle continued after the election they tried to spread a false narrative in you've heard it from Donald Trump that the real problem here wasn't Russian meddling it was meddling from Ukraine, how many times have we heard that and it's stated here in black and white? This was a Russian intelligence deception. Run by intelligence officers and we fell for it. And our remarkable that so many Senate Republicans had been warned about that from the Intel community and yet around the time of impeachment a lot of Republicans on Capitol Hill were spewing Vladimir Putin's propaganda even though they've been warned against it from trump's own Intel Committee we'll get. To that throughout the show. But why don't we see where this race or president is framed up? As Donald trump goes into the orange see this week new polling shows the Joe Biden continues to have a wide lead over president trump nationally by ten point lead over trump fifty, two to forty, two percent and the latest CBS YouGov poll. Now, that was for the most part unchanged since before the election before the democratic, convention. But you did see some tightening. Around Joe, by the support seem to be much stronger for buying, they're also other polls on the hills of the DNC regarding favorability numbers in the latest ABC. News Ipsos full president trump's favorability sits at thirty two percent sixty, two percent have an unfavorable impression of the President Joe Biden's favorability is up five points from the previous week now at forty, five percent and forty percent unfavorable we're going to get some polling. In just a minute but Casey hot that really that. Really tells quite a difference between two, thousand, sixteen in two, thousand twenty where you had Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton both fairly unpopular sitting in the low to mid thirties here you have Joe Biden About a dozen points higher on a favorability rating and you talk to people inside the campaigns they tell you. That the biggest difference how negative politics has gotten but the biggest difference between this year and four years ago is. When you pull the people who don't like either candidate for years ago at broke disproportionately towards Donald Trump this year those people and it's a good number are breaking disproportionately towards Joe Biden. And this is something Democrats don't necessarily like to talk about because it reminds them of Hillary Clinton's loss and that was really a low point for so many people in the party, many of whom are now working for Joe Biden but that's really the big difference here. Joe Biden went into this race with a different perception from voters across the country, and there are a lot of reasons for that some of which have to do with Hillary Clinton but many of which have to do with the attributes that Joe Biden brings the. Person He has been in our public life for the last fifty years the tragedies that he has endured in his private life that many people in the public life have shared with him but I think you referenced that that number in this CBS YouGov poll that shows that essentially the number of people who said I'm supporting Joe Biden because he's not donald trump dropped a little bit and the number of people who said I'm supporting Joe Biden because I like Joe Biden ticked upward in a pretty significant way which seems to show. We'll see if it holds over the course of the next couple of months heading into the election but it seems to show that they succeeded with what they set out to do with their convention, which was to make a positive argument to say, Hey, you should get out and support this guy because of who he is not only because you want to oppose the sitting president we know Democrats are motivated to do that but for anyone that is still sitting on the fence making Matt positive argument in favor of Joe Biden could. Potentially, make a critical difference, and this has also been where the trump campaign has failed. They have tried to get something to stick to him a negative attack that gone after his son they've tried other tactics they try to tie him to China so far nothing is really working, and if that state continues through, I think that that is that is potentially going to be the difference here. Now, one thing we are seeing Joe, we played a little bit of that David Muir interview ABC News interview at the top of the show. Biden former vice president Joe Biden. said that he would lock down the country again, if that's what public health officials are saying, and that is something I'm told we should watch for this week at the Republican National Convention Republicans are seizing that holding onto it. Thinking that that may be an argument that could win for that. Now, of course, that's making a bet that Americans want the economy to open potentially over the objection of Public Health Officials I. GUESS WE'RE GONNA have to be the judge of whether whether that's the wise thing, but that is something to look out for. All right and so new battleground state polling is come out showing Joe Biden holding at least seven point lead over Donald trump in every battleground state he's ahead the falling the polling firm Redfield in Wilton. A British firm shows that Michigan Biden holds a twelve point lead fifty to thirty eight percent and Wisconsin a ten point lead forty, nine to thirty nine percent in Arizona a nine point lead forty, seven percent to thirty eight percent in Florida an eight point lead forty, nine percent to forty one percent and Pennsylvania a seven point lead forty, eight to forty, one percent and North Carolina. The president is statistically tied with Joe Biden but up two points and up four points cents July. Reverend Al.. Obviously. We're expecting these swing states to be awfully tight. That would that show Joe Biden a fairly comfortably in Mo-, swing states but. I would. I would guess you'd expect most of those states go down to the wire this November. There's no doubt that the race will tighten for several reasons probably go back and forth several times I think that the campaigns of Boll candidates must really watch where the concerns of people are, where are we in the pandemic? Where are we in terms of some of the social questions like policing and like gun control and I think the ones they read it and handled it correctly will be the ones that will drive there turn out and we'll have the hand on the pulse of where the country is when we entering this RNC starting tonight, it appears that the president is tone deaf because he's playing to an audience as not their suburban housewives are moving toward the urban center. He's playing to having people that weighed guns. A couple of guns had black live matter marches who were marching peacefully being speakers contracting met with a Colin Powell Governor Casick Republicans are spoken the Democratic Convention I. Think His Tone Dep is frightening for the Republicans and if he doesn't catch up I, think even though to race may tighten it gives the edge of the Democrats. You know it is. It is really surprising the tone that he's taking this. Convention is the same town. He's been taking over the past four years. He he's playing to his base, his most boil down version of his base, the base that he spoke to the inauguration and when he was talking about American carnage the he spoke to and Charlottesville when he was trying to split the difference despite white his sad and pathetic apologists say. About what he said it Charlottesville David Duke was praising it and said, this is why we voted for Donald. Trump. This is why we'RE GOING TO GET SUPPORT DONALD TRUMP? After Charlottesville. And you can carry that all the way through to this convention You just look at the numbers and again it's baffling. Not only to me but I know it's baffling to a lot of sitting Republican members of the House and the Senate who don't understand. Why this president continues to do what he does, and in this case and the issue that matters the most Americans, this year why didn't he listen to his doctors? Why didn't you listen to his scientists what Joe Biden was telling him to do at the end of January? It's what a lot of Republicans on the hill were begging him to do listen to your doctors. Listen to your scientists he refused to do that then. He's refusing to do that now and it is. It is funny that. There are people around him, who thought that his March to Saint John's Church on. June the I was a good political move. Now it's it's these same people who obviously just don't understand politics want to see so Joe Biden saying he would listen to his doctors and scientists that's going to be the bloody flag you're waving. During the RNC. Lots of luck with that and speaking of ignoring your scientists and your doctors and the wisest people around you. The trump administration has granted emergency authorization for the use of convalescent Plasma Cova nineteen initially, the FDA held off on the move after top government officials including Dr Anthony Fauci and Francis Collins raise concerns data from the clinical trials were too weak to support widespread application of the treatment remember that. Dr was concerned about with hydrochloric even an emergency authorization doesn't require the same amount of evidence as the FDA approved but according to Bloomberg News researchers fear the FDA's decision to issue an emergency waiver just in time for the RNC by the way, we'll make it harder to get patients into clinical trial trials and get a clear picture of whether and how convalescent plasma actually works to treat covid nineteen. So for the clinical trials haven't proven whether plasma can help patients battle the coronavirus are not there were some there have been some studies that show it may on the margins Dr Foul other doctors said, we need more information meanwhile. And I think this is what's so important. As we talk about what he's doing with plaza. This is what's so important as we move forward regarding vaccines because. Millions and millions of Americans are going to. Be Following whether they believe a vaccine treatment has been rushed or not in the New York. Times is reporting that trump aides met with congressional leaders last month and told them that the administration may approve a corona virus vaccine before the November election to people briefed on the discussion till the Times at does administration officials said a vaccine would probably get emergency approval before the end of phase three clinical trials in the US perhaps. As early as late September, a White House spokeswoman did not immediately respond to requests from the time for comment. Let's bring in right now NBC News Medical Contributor Dr Gupta and Dr I'll get to you in one moment. Jonathan on Mir you've been telling me and. You've been hearing. About. Everybody around the White House has been hearing that the president is desperate he's flat. For a vaccine. To be put out to the American people as his October surprise. So. With you actually. are. Telling us that for quite some time I would guess you're not surprised by this news that White House officials have already been rushing down to the hill saying, Hey, don't worry. Don't worry we're going to Russia vaccine and maybe even get it out by the end of September. The president is adviser to put a lot of eggs in this basket. We've been saying this for a while they. There is a real hope to have some sort of vaccine approval probably not distribute necessarily because that takes some time but some sort of approval before before the election thinking that could be sort of a last minute game changer that could really bolster his election. Chances and I think that's why we've seen that sort of talk and speculation while there's some concern about this approval about the blood plasma yesterday. I was in the White House briefing room when the president came out and made the announcement. This is something that just a week before you said doctors urged him to to cautions slowed down. We're not sure we're ready yet certainly the. Convalescent blood plasma treatment has shown encouraging signs, Mayo. Clinic study that suggests that it could be helpful but it's far from a sure thing and it was characterized yesterday as as more of a positive development rather than that flat out breakthrough, which is how the president himself was portraying it and I think we should how he portrayed it. It's part of the story here this was. Not something that would just put out an FDA press release something came a day after the president took to twitter accused members of the FDA of slow walking the approval of of Therapeutics of Coronavirus Therapeutics for political reasons an allegations from trump advisors of the health experts and members of the so-called Deep State Toledo get president trump or at least move too slowly for his liking. This was forced push through. He was able to make the announcement himself from the White House briefing room yesterday, and the timing of course raises eyebrows on the eve of the Republican convention a convention. But he goes into down as we just went through the polls down with some by some significant margins and a lot of these battleground states and he's trying to change momentum here he is trying to appear all four nights of the. Convention. His aides or making the bet that that's what he wants it simply that Donald Trump certainly believes himself at the answer to any sort of public relations. Crisis is simply more Donald Trump, and now he goes into it with bad stories with distraction swirling and I know we'll get to later the leaked audio from his sister the sudden resignation of senior adviser Kellyanne. Conway there's a lot of distractions right now around the president, but he is betting this this corona virus therapeutic blood plasma treatment is a good sign heading into the conventions and yes absolutely they're telling lawmakers they're telling allies they do believe they'll have some sort of vaccine announcement before the election that could be what salvage Donald Trump's chances. Now. Well those two issues regarding Kellyanne. The family personal matters there won't touch on those doctors Scott Gottlieb. Dr Foul cheesy. The president czar on. Testing. All of them. Had said doctor that. They needed to move past hydrochloric when. The medical community as a whole, the scientific community as a whole said. Time to move past hydroxy caloric when the president. Still. Is clinging to this for whatever reason. You now look and see he's ignoring very vice again. On on convalescent plasma again, it may work. It may be a significant breakthrough down the road, but we don't have the studies yet and I am worried that. People saying the president doing this with this sort of government by. In time for the C- and what he said in the past about disinfectants, what he said in the past about So many other things about this magically going away in April. That when it's time to roll out, vaccine Americans are rightly going to be skeptical that they can't trust the president that it is safe for them, their children and their parents. Won't joke a good morning to suit? The, the biggest concern I had from. Yesterday was FDA Commissioner of Dr Steven. Han taking the data that we don't have publicly and saying that there's a thirty five percent survival benefit from compass. Plaza Listen Joe I've been giving this as my colleagues to patients since the beginning of March that way widely available drugs. The notion that this therapy is now more prevalent more accessible. Now, after this emergency use authorization is just not true maybe incrementally. So to your point mayoclinic dated other data suggests that there's Probably, a marginal benefit and this is not harmful, but is this a miracle cure as the is this saving thirty-five? Every one hundred lives a statistic that the commissioner kept repeating yesterday. The answer is no there is no evidence of that and he has miss billing it. He is misrepresenting the reality of the data here and that's really key because number one and. John Dr Doctor. Help me if you will I from what I saw from that study and I just briefly looked at it and tell me maybe you can correct me but it looked like we were talking about the difference between. Eight percent. Dying and eleven percent dying in some cases nine percent and twelve and A. Two or three percentage. difference of course, if you give somebody. Two or three percentage points I think everybody will take that. But that was just one study Dr Falcone and others want to see more studies. So why would the FDA commissioner come out a couple of days after Donald? Trump accused him of being in the deep state and solely is reputation by painting this as a Miracle Cure when we really don't know yet. Great Question Joe and you're right I think you're right in. Your viewers out there plasma in the first three days after somebody gets admitted we think there's maybe eight. Three out of every one, hundred individuals survive as a result of getting that plasma at thirty days. Maybe that number comes up to five. That's what we see from this analysis for Mayo, which is a large analysis. Why the FDA. Mr decided to do what he did. Let's we're all we're all line to see what's happening. We're worried about the of the FDA these decisions that get made because the president is tipping his. Hat got as deeply concerned because we need the FDA to look at the data look at the evidence and do rate and based on randomized control trials. Somebody gets the drug somebody gets therapy. Another person does not any compare the two and Joe, you mentioned this earlier. The deepest concern here is that we're not be able to effectively bring scientific clarity to this issue. 'cause I don't know a patient or member is gonNA say. Give me the placebo or sign me up for that study because now they see the president saying we're going to give emergency use authorization for something that has not been sufficiently studied to date. Are Dr Gupta thank you so much for being with us. We really do appreciate it and David Ignatius reminds me of well what Ross do that wrote about this weekend, and also at Masha Gessen has said that the Donald Trump instead of. Instead of actually governing getting bills passed. Using. The Constitution As roadmap to get things done. Hill. Do the sort of not even governed by Fiat but government by gesture he'll do something he'll make a big announcement. And it will never turn out to be as big as we thought, of course A. Use One example after another example after another example, about emergency funding to build the wall and emergency funding to do this and emergency orders to do that. But here. We have a making announcement on the eve of our NC again that his scientists and doctors don't want him to make but it is once again government by gesture all just make an announcement and people will believe I'm doing something big. Joe I refer to this at the beginning of the trump presidency is the iron whim. These statements that would seemingly come out of nowhere but with such ferocity. Trumpet is still waiting for a miracle to deal with this pandemic greatest, quite public health prices of our lifetimes. He doesn't have a plan. He doesn't have a systematic idea the latest. Bright object shining in front of his eyes is the convalescent plasma treatment. And as Dr, Gupta and others have said that there's some promising aspects to it. My fear is that by politicizing the public health process. The many Americans who already are suspect suspicious of medicine. You know a lot of people don't want to take vaccines and a Lotta people who who don't want to use the therapies that are available. Now they don't trust doctors they don't trust. Big. Institutions of authority. He just feeds that narrative and one of the scariest things you can think of is, let's say sometime next year we do have vaccine that works but a lot of people won't take it because they don't trust the scientific establishment because that mistrust has been cultivated by president trump over months and now years and I think that in some ways could be the biggest damage that his presidency does that he he doesn't simply delay our response to the pandemic. He makes it impossible for people to feel confident and comfortable about the vaccines therapies that could actually turn the corner. So I, think that's the hidden danger of what he's doing now. And I'm hearing it from one person after another one friend after another asking me when I talk about the possibility of of is saying well, let's so we get us a vaccine one person after another says well, are you going to take it? Are you your family take it? You're right there is that skepticism and so much of it has to do with the way even among trump's supporters. The way the president has handled himself since last March on this and Jonathan Amir I I'm curious we are going into a week. that. We're Donald Trump is going to be showcasing his accomplishments of the past four years where he's going to be trying to draw a distinction between himself and Joe Biden. He's behind the staff's behind. They know he's behind, they know he needs a big week. To at least cut down a little bit. On some of those leads at Joe Biden has right now what's the game plan? What should we all expect? Version I, just WANNA mention to David's point the president himself as a private citizen express some skepticism vaccines as well. So that's another element here is. What we have a nation facing us and certainly the erosion of trust in terms of the RNC it begins tonight it will largely be based here in Washington other is component. During the day in Charlotte Charlotte was going to be the original host site of the RNC the president yanked out of north, Carolina. Due to a feud with the governor there he wasn't able to get the convention he wanted to packed halls and such moved to Jacksonville. The Jacksonville part of course of course got cancelled as well. One piece did remain some of the business, the roll call that will be today this afternoon. In North Carolina there. Certainly speculation cameos by the president of Vice. President there, and then tonight in Primetime back in DC as you can see the rundown on your schedule, Donald trump junior and former ambassador. Haley or among the headliners this evening the First Lady's tomorrow Vice President Wednesday, the president of the courses Thursday. But we are told to expect the president to play a role every night, and that includes his major address Thursday night behind me from the South Lawn of the White House in terms of. The. President keeps saying his aides are trying to suggest that it will be a positive message this week they'll fill tout the president's accomplishments. Sure. But also his vision going forward division mind you that he's had real trouble outlining he's had real difficulty sort of explaining what a second term would look like what is policy agenda would be, and it's also hard to justify this picture of optimistic convention week considering it comes on the heels of the president for weeks. Now, turning extraordinarily dark apocalyptic language about the state of America's cities those controlled by democratic governors anyway suggesting that the Joe. Biden is a puppet of the radical left who hates what America stands for. We'll tear down all of its statutes and that that that that we're looking at a bleak future if the Democrats come into be and then so he is for a president who has from the American carnage speech on has always really tread in dark territory a pivot to a bright optimistic message. This week seems shall we say will surprise to behold if he's manages to pull that off highly unlikely just as unlikely Jonathan is Boston Red Sox fans celebrate celebrating anything this year I mean you know We go ahead by one run and I think it's two thousand and four again, only to have our hearts crushed and the end. You and I for a moment yesterday Joe we had dreams of October glory, and now we look at the standings and realize wait we're I think we're nine and twenty and one of the worst records in the League and extremely frustrated at everyone who is employed by Red Sox. I put Whitney Houston on my Sonos one moment in time I was dancing around and. Then we lost the orioles again by the way when our of best tweet early morning tweets has to go to Jake Sheridan. Who says from today in one thousand, nine, hundred, seventy, two in Berkeley the grateful dead with a great intro by Bill Graham from Marin county good time music. For good time people and of course, all those kids that were at the grateful dead concerts they were just looking for a good time. Just good clean fun in time. But Bill Graham. Holy Cow I need to get on here we need to segment just on bill? Graham. Still Ahead on Morning Joe I know we're not talking about the preacher still had on morning joe our next guest says, don't believe the story that President Trump will tell at the Republican convention Steve Rattner joins us with his latest piece on the economic recovery that isn't but first, let's go to Bill Karen's. He's gotTA. Check on storms impacting the Gulf coast and some good news pertaining to one of them bill. Read his these two storms we're developing that. This was going to be the first time. I, guess since the eighteen hundreds of two storms in the Gulf coast at the same time, but things are breaking up a bit. Yeah for Marco. So that's the great news over finally some good news and twenty twenty, right so marco overnight is getting shared apart. It's not going to be a big event for Louisiana or Florida, we're going to have some isolated problems with some storm surge some maybe isolated flash flooding I. don't even expect a lot of power outages forecast Hurricane Center a very weak decoupled storms that immediately turns our focus to Laura because Laura is going to be right behind this one and Laura's now just south of Cuba still sixty five mile per hour winds. and. This one has a chance to become a powerful storm as we go throughout Tuesday, and then Wednesday right now the hurricane center thinks could be a hundred and five miles per hour maximum sustained winds somewhere between Houston new New Orleans pinpointing right along the Beaumont port. Arthur Area Lake Charles also could get hit hard by this storm, and again, this would be Wednesday night landfall. Our European computer model takes the storm strengthened at rapidly during the day tomorrow, and then takes it right into the Texas Louisiana border area around port, Arthur too late Charles again. About sixty hours out the average errors about one hundred miles. So that's why we're still saying anywhere from. Two New Orleans still be preparing for the potential for a major hurricane to head your way because this does have that potential to rapidly intensify tomorrow. So he'll Marco's not being a big deal today Laura at least has the potential to be a significant hurricane with bass evacuations starting as early as tomorrow. So keep that in mind if you're along the northern Gulf coast and of course, with all the cove implications in evacuations you can imagine. How problematic all that could be. 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But for stability and into what comes next into America a podcast about who we are as Americans and who we went to become new episodes every Monday Wednesday and Thursday subscribe now. Hey let's bring in former treasury official and morning Joe Economic Analysts Steve Rattner. Who ahead of denied start to the Republican National Convention has a pre bottle of sorts to the economic message that the White House is going to be pushing in Steve before you go through the. Just want to ask you about this. Economic recovery and. Again, I. I I've. Sooner the economy recovers the better. There are a lot of people suffering out there. Looking what's going on and I have the same sort of feeling I had leading up to September fifteenth two, thousand and eight and I kept reading about credit default swaps and I kept reading about all of these financial instruments that I didn't understand. Well, it doesn't seem to make sense. that. They can spread the risk around that much and it doesn't end up costing somebody. There's never a free lunch just like. The trillions and trillions of dollars of debt were accumulating. Now, we're going to have to pay for, but this is what I don't get so. Right now tenants. Can't be evicted and I understand why very humane rational thing to do during this time this once in a lifetime event we're having. But. Then the landlord, they can't make their payments and you hear of these big whether it's the gap or Victoria's secret or. Other major stores. Brooks. Brothers that are filing bankruptcy or they can't make their payments on their New York stores. So they're not making those payments. All right. Fine. The landlord though whoever the landlord is. Getting, that money and the larger property holder and the larger company in the firm set of invested aren't getting their money and at the end the banks when everybody defaults aren't going to get their money I'm just curious. Is that why you had Berkshire hathaway Warren Buffett Divest from all of his bank stocks and are we looking at a situation that ultimately when this? All? Ends up it all all of this flows uphill to the banks, and then downhill the people who are trying to get money out. Of ATM's I'm. Not Trying to. Be. A pessimist here. But I just don't see a good ending to all of this. Joe. I don't think you're trying to be a pessimist but you but you have to think about all these things because they did happen just about twelve years ago and it's possible they could happen again. So I on the question of people paying their rents and things like that. The evidence that's going on out there is that office tenants are pretty much mostly paying their rent people who live in multifamily apartment buildings and things like that are paying a surprisingly large amount of their ran the real. Problem, which you alluded to is with retailer retailing was on its way downhill before all this and has become a disaster and many many of those retailers aren't paying their rent, and so you will see foreclosures of buildings a by lenders you you do see going on in the in the derivatives market, a lot of trading of stuff at sometimes at very low levels because of this fear but the banks have a different problem. The banks problem is fact that they really can't make money zero interest rates because. There's only so much you can You can charge people to borrow and you really making nothing on the percent pay nothing on the deposit. So what we call their interest margins are being squeezed short answer. This show is that I think we did learn a lot from oh eight. Oh, nine and I do think that. We are watching very carefully all the factors you talk about because they could explode but so far the increase in number of bankruptcies of fifty, two percent year over year for example, has been orderly and has been managed by the financial system. Well. All. Right. We'll talk more about this later. But first, let's get to your charts and walk us through the state of the economy as you see it as opposed to how Donald Trump sees it. Hey, guys, Willie geist here this week on the Sunday sit down podcast I get together with country superstar. Tim. McGraw to talk about his latest album here on earth and much more get it now for free wherever download your podcasts. Sure. We're going to hear a lot I'm sure this week from Donald Trump about how great it was before the virus. Great it has been. We'll be after the virus passes, but that's not really what the evidence shows. Let's start with the earlier period, which is I'm which is the first three years in office, and obviously jobs were probably the thing that's most of the minds of Americans, and so we can see here that on the gray side of that chart is Obama's period where he created two hundred, twenty, four, thousand jobs a month during his last three years. So comparable period to to Donald Trump Donald trump created one, hundred, eighty, two, thousand jobs during that same three year or history or period and. What's the net of all that the net of all that is that there one point, five, million fewer jobs created under trump than under Obama during the same three year periods. Last three years of Obama I three years of trump. If you WANNA talk about economic growth, you can also see a mixed picture trump's claims. He had the greatest economy ever. He was actually seventh out of his eleven predecessors in terms of GDP growth. GDP growth was very similar to what it was under Obama over these periods, and in fact, on trump GDP growth fell each year during his three years so that was before the virus. Now, let's talk about the virus trump told us. We were going to have a v-shaped recovery. We were going to bounce back almost instantly, and that's not quite what we're seeing out there. So this shows you the monthly job report that we get from the Bureau of Labor Statistics and you can see the massive drop off in jobs during the shutdown. We all knew that that was happening and exist, and then you can see we started recover two point seven, million jobs in May four point, eight, million jobs in June but then in July, the number of jobs created. Dropped off to one point, eight million. So a much slower recovery, and again in the box there you can see the scorecard we lost twenty two point, two, million jobs. We've regained nine point, three, million jobs, and that's only forty two percent of what we lost with the number of jobs being added each month slowing down now, the shutdown, the need to have to shutdown again, I think has taken a significant toll on the pace of the economic recovery. The economy has certainly bounced off the bottom but if you look at this chart us to take one example of what's going on out. is a chart of revenues. Received by small business, and you can see the bottom back into spring that happens to be right around the time that the stimulus packages were enacted and you can see that spending to these small businesses rose steadily sharply steadily into July that little bump in the middle of the fourth of July. plateaued and it's even turning down a little bit. So as we sit here, today small businesses revenue is down nineteen point one percent relative to where it was at the beginning at the beginning of the year, and again, we have other data to show similar factors for example, foot traffic in stores, restaurant reservations, things like that. All paint a picture of an economy that is not in any v-shaped recovery that is recovering slowly and has a very, very long way to go to get back to where it was even as early as the beginning of this year. I remember Scott Gottlieb on our show. Of probably April saying we really needed a downturn in the summer to rest and prepare for the fall certainly businesses needed that badly. because. So, many small business owners are suffering and working class Americans are taking a disproportionate hit here. Even the apple stock may be going up it. Certainly, there is such a disconnect between Wall Street and main street right now perhaps his greatest ever been David Ignatius whether it's Steve and has the next question David. Steve, your charts, her reality check as as always I wanna ask you a following on what show was saying about the hidden dimension of what's going on and that's the danger the inequality in the distribution of income and wealth in the United States. Already a big problem argue ipe part of the reason that Donald Trump has such strong support angry people feel they were left at, is that going to get worse as we go deeper into this? Pandemic caused procession and partial recovery. David yes. There's no question that we're going through right now purely on economic terms as exacerbated, all the problems we have of income inequality of people toward the bottom not doing well, if you look at So if you look at job loss figures during this recovery, so-called recovery is way disproportionately focused on people with college degrees at the upper end had lost the fewest number of jobs whereas people the bottom people without a high school diploma even have lost the most number of jobs. You can see the industries that are most affected just about it. This way, for example, things like travel hospitality restaurants all of those have many many workers at the lower end of the wage scale lost their jobs and who knows when or if they're gonNA come back. So here question is right on the this. This so-called recovery is definitely having disproportionate. On, different people and and unfortunately the worst impacts on people of Color Women people toward the lower and of the income scale. and See following up on. David's Question I. One of my concerns also has to do with the fact that the stock market may be going up because apple stock is going up and facebook is going up and Microsoft and other companies like that Amazon or going up but you also have some companies going up on the promise that. Post pandemic they're going to be able to continue to downsize as far as employees. It reminds me of Richard of what Richard Haass said that this pandemic is not going to bend history. It's not going to change US three. It's going to accelerate history and I fear that we've seen it halfway through the pandemic that millions of jobs that have gone away. In this pandemic probably aren't coming back because major corporations have figured out how to get by with less and making more money on Wall Street because. They're cutting to the bone. Right, every conversation I have with a CO or business person investment person in the course of our work I hear the same thing I hear CEO saying I, don't need the same I've learned from this pandemic that I don't need the same number of people when I come back because I had before I've I've heard a lot from CEO's about cutting back on Capitol expenditures which, of course also means not bringing people back to actually go ahead with those projects and so yes, there's no doubt that business is going to use this. As a moment to rethink their their cost structures, number employees they have, and of course, we also know if that last ten or twenty percent of the economy is going to come back anytime soon when theaters going to open one or sporting events going to allow spectators when people really start traveling either for business or pleasure the way they did before and so yes all of this I think is going to have a long-term effect on employment and we're going to see high unemployment for good while several years at least ahead of us. All Right Steve Rattner, sobering news, but thank you so much for being with us. and. What Steve said about hearing from CEO's I've heard the same thing they're talking about. Cutting back. This pandemic has shown them. They can get by with fewer workers, few fewer capital expenditures. and. This income disparity that we had was economic crisis of our time even before the pandemic. Whoever wins this November is going to be dealing with us. In fact, we're going to be dealing with this as a country for the next twenty years. Hey, it's Chris. Hayes this week on my podcast why is this happening? I'll be talking with Ryan thumb about the Chinese government's ongoing ethnic cleansing of its minority. You can make people submit, but it's very difficult to make them think differently, there's bound to be a large percentage of this million or so people who they determine to be irredeemable and I'm worried about what happens you know the German? Concentration camps it was something like four or five years before the majority of the population them was Jewish and it was eight or nine years before they were connected to a program mass killing. So the reason I bring that up is goals can change especially when you're looking at such a massive system that has no appeal system, no regulation, no oversight, and we've already seen that the rest of the world's reaction to this has been rather slow. 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Trump mocked on stage by errant satire presidential seal

"The show we nine eastern on M._S._N._B._C. Happy to have you hear anybody who tells you. They know what comes next anybody who tells you they know how things are GonNa go. From here. On out is wrong. I mean they might end up accidentally being right but I mean to the extent that anybody is expressing any certainty to you right now about what's going to happen next. That person is wrong to be so certain because what we are going through right now. As a country is unprecedented which literally means we have not done it before which means there is no previous experience to extrapolate from that might give us a hint as to where this is going next I mean even when it comes to just the the basic fate of this presidency as of this morning you might have seen the national headlines these super sober super sure headlines about how we know anything about the impact of the Robert Mueller testimony yesterday is that it definitely didn't move the needle one one bit on the question of impeachment if if it did anything it convinced Democrats once and for all that they definitely aren't going to pursue impeachment it killed that off forever I mean those were the headlines All over the papers today as of this morning morning as of this afternoon. Oh look there's five new members of the House of just come out to in favor of an impeachment inquiry including Katherine Clark who is in the Democratic leadership. You might have seen also initial reporting boarding today about how Democrats held a meeting in the wake of Molars testimony and at that meeting they decided that you know they would stick to the same old plan and the dynamics among the Democrats would stick to the same old script same dynamic. If the Democrats have been in for months they definitely won't pursue impeachment proceedings against the president no matter what they don't even want to plan for it no way it's done in fact further detailed reporting about that same meeting later today suggests that what the Democrats were really doing at that meeting was was for the first time talking about the nuts and bolts step by step chronological logistics of how exactly they would do it if they were GonNa do it. Including basic questions like how exactly they're impeachment articles would be conveyed to the U._S. Senate if the House did in fact pass articles of impeachment and it was time to move onto the next step. That's the kind of stuff that they were talking about which is not at all the same old page they were stuck on before so all of this this sort of instant sage punditry an instant news analysis in the world. That's trying to be very reassuring now. Don't worry nothing will change. Everything is the same we know exactly how this is all going to go from here on. I mean I understand the sort of impulse to be soothing. I understand the impulse to broadcast that sort of thing. I think it's sort of feels good particularly in the beltway press but the facts on the ground do seem to be shifting much faster than that kind of tut-tutting analysis has been able to keep up with even in just over the course of today now. Let me just give you one other sort of case study from our current news cycle that if nothing else should persuade you to keep your mind open to the possibility of something something deeply really weird happening at any time that should close your mind only to the possibility that there's somebody out there who knows what happens next. I mean we are living in deeply weird times. This is deeply weird. Presidency things that touched this presidency ascendancy things that happened around this presidency particularly in times of stress. They have an almost other worldly propensity to go weird. Even if they start off normal I mean and that's not necessarily a good or bad thing. It's just weird for example. This is my case study. Do you know what the president did the night before Robert Muller's testimony we know the president appeared to be a little stressed out about Muller's forthcoming testimony. He was tweeting angrily that day in that night about the logistics of the Muller Hearing and the fact that Muller's deputy was going to be there. That's not fair. Very unfair should not be allowed. I mean we know that the president was very wound up about it. The night before. Most testimony happened happened well. What does he actually do? The night before. Muller testified turns out he had a public event. He spoke to a right wing youth group and I think that you would probably not seen this footage. I mean maybe were statistically speaking. I'm guessing you are not a member of a right-wing youth group watching me right now. Although if you are welcome to stay but we've got the tape and it's sort of I just I think this is remarkable. Thing sort of a crowds I view of what it was like to be in the audience of that right right wing youth group on Muller Eve awaiting the ONSTATE onstage presence of the president of the United States that ambition was unmistakably prevalent in Young Donald DNA. He apparently apparently love military school. He likes to kind of out front. I think competitiveness of it there were so many different ways that you could excel and get medals and Ribbons Donald Trump thrived rising in rank and he was socially popular popular with men and women he also gravitated towards sports or rather winning and sports so this is the right wing teenagers group. It's like a pro-trump youth group and they're watching this hype video about how how Donald Trump was such a popular boy with both boys and girls and he had such good DNA and he was always winning and everything he got so many ribbons and stuff this goes on for a long time. This is a long hype video ultimately they get to the part right after this kind of trying to give like an exciting war movie vibe to the room and so I'm going to show you this expert. I'm just GONNA stop talking here for a second so you can see and hear what this was like for the trump youth group also just keep in mind this this is the kind of event the president of the United States is doing now and then there's everybody goes crazy and he start throat President Donald Trump's throbbing on the screen and the COG. It's all hyped up and then they get hyped as they possibly silhouette. He's the president walks out onto the stage see. I told you could get even weirder than you thought they could get but wait. This is even weirder than you think it is because this is what the event looks like once he finally gets going okay. Okay you see there's like the throbbing name there to the right see. There's a presidential seal their presidential seal their right with his name then there's another presidential seal on the left side. Your screen is we're looking at it the one with his name over it. That's the seal of the president of the United States on the left side of the screen. Do you notice that one looks a little bit different. Washington Post was hers to report on this. I'm not sure how long it would have taken anybody else to notice that this happened. How many other people were looking at this footage right but turns out? There's a guy who runs a website called one term Donnie. He has an anti-trump website. You can buy like anti-trump merchandise and posters and t-shirts or whatever that guy designed a trump specific satirical version of the seal of the president of the United States okay for comparison purposes. The real one is on the left. This is the one that was projected underneath the president's name at that event the one that was projected on the other side of the screen behind the President Esi prowled the stage at this trump youth group event the night before Muller's testimony. That's the one on the right. There are subtle differences first thing look at the head. You'll notice in the trump won. The Eagle has two heads instead of one. It's pretty much exactly the two heads from these state seal of the Russian Federation the two headed did your now look down at the feet of the double headed Eagle on the real seal you see on the right. That's the towel one of the Eagle holding thirteen Eros representing the thirteen colonies in the seal that was shown behind the president on Muller Eve. It's a little bit hard to tell first glance what that is you can tell it's not arrows in terms of the one term Donnie website merchandise producer. He describes what's in the clutches of that Eagle there as quote little Deng Don's child sized set of golf clubs for those tiny tiny hands no arrows tiny Gulf ups in the eagles other little talent where from the real seal you would expect to see the Eagle holding and olive branch the trump specific seal is instead holding a bunch of cash and then there's two other alterations. I will draw your attention to one is the shield sort of the breastplate for the Eagle on the real presidential seal that breastplate is red and white stripes down below and Bluefield up top on the one that was designed specifically for trump and that was projected behind him for his Muller Eve trump youth appearance. There's still the red and white stripes on the bottom but the bluefield above the red and white stripes is a little different CEO. What's got those little icons? They're those hammer in sickles like from the Soviet Union right. I mean just in case. The two-headed Eagle from the seal of the Russian Federation was not on the knows enough. It's the hammer and sickles and then the last alteration Asian you should notice as the words written on the banner over the Eagles head on the real presidential seal of course it's E.. pluribus unum out of many one motto of the United States on the trump specific presidential seal which again the president stood in front of for more than an hour the night before Muller testified that one actually says forty five S. T. Terry T. Terry. That's not Latin that Spanish and it means forty five is a puppet now. This does not seem to have been an anti trump trump trick or hack. It wasn't like a rogue projectionist at the Marriott in D._C.. Is as trump was speaking to this trump youth group. This does seem to have just been a thing that the trump right wing youth group got wrong. They accidentally did that but that up there and apparently the White House advance operations are sufficiently poorest that this sort of thing can just happen and who knows blame the US I mean he was stayed in front of that thing for more than an hour the guy who made the one term Donnie website. Website like anybody who tells you there aren't wrinkles in the universe or unexpected hazards or opportunities ahead is just not being honest about how exactly weird this moment is an the American political life. I mean listen that can happen involving the president in person and his adoring teens I mean anything can happen. Particularly anything can happen in the wake of the jarring claims that were made about the president and his behavior by the special counsel in those seven hours of televised hearings yesterday from your testimony. Today I gather that you believe that knowingly accepting foreign assistance during the presidential essential campaign is an unethical thing to do and a crime and a crime and what about total exoneration did you actually totally exonerate the president well now in fact your reports expressly states that it does not exonerate the preser- it does so it's rare to say the president tried to protect himself by asking staff to falsify records relevant to an ongoing investigation I would say that's a jeff summary Okay but the could you charge the president with a time after he left office. Yes you believe that he committed you could charge the president nine states with obstruction of justice after he left office yes now directly muller. Can you explain in plain terms what that finding means so the American people can understand understand it well. The fighting indicates that the president was not the president was not scoping exculpate skull paid for the ACA he allegedly committed presumably the Russians could record that conversation could they not yes and so we have candidate trump was saying I have no dealings with the Russians. The Russians had a tape recording they could expose could not yes. That's the stuff of counterintelligence nightmares. Is it not yesterday's testimony by Robert Mueller was so blunt and so unequivocal and at times so simple I think it would be hard to expect that testimony to not sort of knock this new cycle upside the head regardless of whether we can predict or not predict how it's going to affect this presidency in the long run but I mean I mean just bluntly to the extent that presidents have been impeached in the past for committing crimes for enabling and going along with the commission of crimes and for lying to cover it all up I mean Robert Muller bluntly and unequivocally testified yesterday that yes president trump did all of those things trump campaign officials built their strategy their messaging messaging strategy around those stolen documents generally true and then they lied to cover it up generally. That's true blunt testimony like that about the sitting president of the United States is not off the sort of thing that tends to evaporate into the ether and now couple that today with this new sixty seven page report that has just been released on a bipartisan basis from the Intelligence Committee in the United States Senate now Robert Muller yesterday was at his most passionate and honestly his most coherent when he was articulating the scale of the Russian attack on our election. It's intentions implications how serious this was as a threat to our democracy. He said over all the things he has dealt with in his career. This is one of the most serious threats he have as he has ever seen to our country. Remember he was F._B._I.. Director in the immediate wake of nine eleven well now immediately in the wake of his testimony here today. Surprise is the Senate Intel Committee reporting unequivocally that that they have looked into this in detail and they agree with Robert Mueller. There can be no doubt about what happened here from page five of the report quote Russian government affiliated Cyber Actors conducted an unprecedented level of activity the against state election infrastructure in the run-up to the twenty sixteen elections. I mean even over the course of those two hearings. Yesterday you heard Republicans become less able to keep a straight face while questioning or denying the Russian attack attack happened or that. The Russian attack was any big deal. I mean it was poor. Republican Congressman Tom McClintock from California at the morning session yesterday who started off trying to say he didn't believe all the social media manipulation stuff run out of Russia from the Internet Research Agency Agency. He didn't necessarily believe that was necessarily even from Russia. Kenya prove it I mean that was a very strange assertion by congressman McClintock particularly because he's from California right like you sort of think that maybe he might they have trouble with that when he goes home I mean I guess he's going to say that. There are Internet research agencies everywhere. There was just the Saint Petersburg franchise. Maybe they could have been running that stuff out of Indonesia office. I don't know I mean that was that was not in the morning but by the afternoon noon even the Republicans on the Intelligence Committee. Some of them were paying lip service to the fact that yes what Russia did was bad and yes. It was serious and yes. Maybe we OUGHTA start. Think thinking about how to how to stop that from happening again well that's yesterday and then today this bipartisan hi partisan report from the Senate Intelligence Committee hopefully will help Republicans get over whatever this tacit directive they've received from the trump White House that they should all pretend that Russia didn't do what it did but there's there's a couple of things that I think are worth noting about this report over and above its emphatic attic public conclusion that Russia attack the election in an unprecedented way and one of the things I think worth knowing about this report is just how freaking redacted it is. I'm not sure we expected the the intelligence agents committee's report on Russian interference to look like a barely unsealed indictment set aside like a whole big chunk of my day today I was like we've got a sixty seven page single-spaced report plus lots of footnotes to get through GonNa leave myself time. You really get through that not really it's more like a coffee break read. It's all under black boxes. It's all blackout. They all pages look like this. I mean presumably these reductions are at the behest of the intelligence community. I don't know but this is a serious toner investment for your printer. If you'RE GONNA print it out I mean here. Let me just show you an example. All this is page twenty eight of this report from Senate Intel you see the heading naming this section of the report. It's a whole section of the report titled Russian efforts to Research Voting systems processes and other elements of voting infrastructure and then the whole first paragraph is redacted and the whole second paragraph rejected the third paragraph redacted in the fourth paragraph in the fifth paragraph in the six pair. That's the end of the section okay. The whole thing is redacted wait. There's one sentence in the whole section in the whole section there that is not redacted that we the public are allowed to see what does that sentence. The sentence is is quote. It is unknown if Toront- Sauve attended the events yes. I've googled Toronto off now. I have no idea but were allowed to know that one thing what are the event who's Toront- solve this important. Why is this less important than the stuff behind the all the other paragraphs in that section all the everything else in that report about the Russian government casing voting systems and the elements of our voting infrastructure researching them trying to Suss them out? We're not allowed to know any of that even as the Senate Intelligence Committee moves to make this report public so that's I mean that's. I don't think what was expected from this report. It's intriguing. It's sort of frustrating depending on your mood but even with all of these myriad reductions the Senate intelligence report does make a few very sobering assertions including confirming publicly that Russia attacked the election unprecedented scale and breath but also including in no uncertain terms that the Russian attack included Russia successfully accessing assessing and stealing voter information from voter registration databases in the states like the actual voter registration databases that are used by the states for us to vote in the presidential election in at least at least a couple of instances they broke in it was successful and they got that data and again a ton of the descriptive stuff in here is blocked out. We can tell reading between the black boxes. I think the committee is telling us. At least two states had their voter information cracked the Russians were the hack not only succeeded but they got the data. We also get lots of information about how unnamed individual states didn't believe it when they were warned about these attacks by Russian government cyber actors the individual states again. They're not named their number two states but after time and time again one after another they deny that they these attacks were any big deal state after state refuses government help when it was offered to them that is not heartening and so at this this sort of typically weird moment where I do think that kind of anything is possible in terms of where the new cycle is going next number. This presidency is going next. Do have to say that the only place that kind of feels like it might be a real catbird seat for this weird moment in American life might be if you had a seat on one of the intelligence committees that seems like an excellent place to observe what's going on in our country right now and the most interesting things about it because let's say you're on the Senate Intelligence Committee presumably that means you can read need all of the redacted stuff in today's report and you can you can find out what's actually there because you're cleared to read exactly how the Russian attack was and how it worked and how far they got into how many different states and which states it was that blew off the warnings and let the Russians in denied there was any problem presumably that would also let you as a member of the committee read how far we have advanced since two thousand sixteen towards stopping Russia from doing it in the next election as well since both the F._B._i.. Director and the former special counsel are now warning US explicitly that they have every intention of doing it in two thousand twenty as well. I mean do the thought experiment right. Let's imagine it's close election. In Two thousand twenty can't possibly imagine it's going to be close election. What if it comes down to hand recount in one state and the presidency is on the line based on that recount that could never that happened two thousand Florida right then it turns out as we're doing that hand recount and the whole country is riveted? Whatever never stated is turns out? That's one of the states where Russia didn't just probe in prod they actually access. They actually got their hands on all the voter data from that state now the question arises in the country as we're wondering to find out what's going to happen this recount. Mhm Russia got in there. Did they mess with any of that voter data. Did they corrupt it that they tilt it in one direction or another. How would we know if they did what would that due to our ability as a country to trust the results of something as sensitive as a recount don't or even just account in the first place that might determine whether or not donald trump gets four more years in office? If you were on the intelligence committee you'd be able to read the whole report. Also if you're on the intelligence committee you would be a a unique position because of your oversight role for the intelligence community. You'd be a unique position to get the real story the real dirt perhaps behind the work that Robert Muller said yesterday he and his team did not do one of the most fascinating. Revelations from Muller's testimony yesterday was Muller talking about the compromise of potentially the president and members of his campaign the counterintelligence issues about foreign intelligence services and foreign governments compromising U._S. officials and other people the U._S. national life as a way of compromising our country. I mean as blunt as muller was explaining how members of the trump campaign and the president himself were compromised by Russia or might have been compromised by Russia because of their secret dealings with the Russian government which Russia knew about and they could leverage to compromise these folks and extort things from them and put national security at risk as blunt as he unexpectedly was about those things muller also said repeatedly that although those were huge risks and they did observe all the elements of compromise is in potential blackmail. They're actually wasn't something that has team worked on nine in our report we had virtually the Cadillac catera intelligence goals of so our investigation which were secondary to any criminal wrongdoing that we could find. I cannot get into that mainly because there are many elements of the F._B._i.. They're looking at a different aspects of that issue currently Kerr for instance since it was outside your purview your report did not reach counterintelligence conclusions regarding any trump administration officials who might potentially be vulnerable to compromise compromise or blackmail by Russia correct. Those decision probably were made in the counter the F._B._I.. On our intelligence section of the F._B._i.. would be part working on that. While are they still working on that. How'd how'd that go? They look into that stuff. I mean time and time again yesterday. Molar surprisingly answered questions about the potential issue of being compromised by Russia and how that risk attends to not just the president's campaign campaign but also the president and he described things time and again as being subjected investigation the subject of ongoing investigation things that were being looked at or were looked at by the F._B._i.. Counter intelligence matters things that were not being evaluated by his team. No No oh you need to ask the F._B._I.. You need to ask the counterintelligence section at the F._B._I.. And that was about you know not only wikileaks releasing all the stolen stuff that they got from Russian intelligence. It was not only about Donald trump junior communicating with wikileaks about that material cereal was not only about the extent of Mike Flynn's compromise with Russia as he was lying about his interactions with the Russian government while he was holding a very sensitive national security position in the U._S.. Government it also includes the basic question of whether or not the president is or was was compromised by Russia because of his hidden financial dealings with them that they could expose it anytime I mean apparently to the extent this stuff has been looked at. It was never a muller matter. It's an F. B.. I. Matter it was and is the F._B._I.. Matter in some cases he said explicitly it is an ongoing counterintelligence matter at the F._B._i.. Or presumably a matter otherwise for the intelligence community well the intelligence committees and House in the Senate have oversight over over the intelligence community. They're the only ones who do and now they have just been given an open door from Robert Muller inviting them to find out what is going on with those investigations because molar says yeah those are real investigations and those are serious real all national security issues for our country and you should ask the F._B._i.. About that the intelligence committees are sort of the only ones who were allowed to get those answers. They're the only ones allowed to know as far as I understand it well Senator Michael Bennett of Colorado's Colorado a member of the Senate Intelligence Committee. He released his own additional views that were appended to today's highly redacted intelligence committee report on Russian interference in the election. Senator Bennett is also a member of the Democratic Party in contention for his party's presidential nomination this year Senator Bennett join us next. Stay with us. Hi It's Katy Tur- WanNa keep up with M._S._N._B._C.. While you're on the go subscribe to the M._S._N._B._C. daily newsletter. You'll get the best of what you've missed during this unprecedented era of news text M._S._N._B._C. to six six eight six six to subscribe so there's this new sixty seven page report on rushing attacks on our elections that was released today by the Senate Intelligence Committee. It is very largely redacted but the last page the report page sixty-seven sixty-seven is different from all the rest you can see there at the top additional views of senators Harris Bennett and Heinrich. That's three Democratic senators on the Intelligence Committee California Senator Kamala Harris Colorado Senator Michael Bennett the two two of them are both running for president right now also New Mexico senator Martin Heinrich they all had something to say that they felt was not reflected in the committee's broader report but they are a little bit mysterious about what it is we do not endorse every recommendation in the committee's report and we share some of our colleagues concerns about the vulnerability that we face particularly at the state level were counties with limited resources must defend themselves against sophisticated nation state adversaries. We do not not endorse every recommendation. Tell me more joining us now Senator Michael Bennett member of the Senate Intelligence Committee Twenty Twenty presidential candidate Sir. It's great to have you here. Thanks for making time thanks for having me so you do not endorse every recommendation you the end Senator Heinrich and Senator Harris have set yourself a little bit off from the report and saying that what do you have a problem within this report that the other members don't things one. We need to make sure that we have a national response to this. I can't leave this just in the hands of counties like Broward county to defend themselves against Russian intelligence and and and an expect that we're going to be able to protect the country that was appointed of emphasis for us as much as anything else I would say which much more important about this report is that it was issued in with <hes> in a strong bipartisan way from the Senate Intelligence Committee and the conclusions that Russia attack this democracy in a very fundamental way is now unassailable in front of the American people and one thing that's not redacted in the report are the recommendations that are made about how we need to approach this going forward so I think it's a good piece of bipartisan work that takes very seriously this assault by the Russians on our democracy in terms of those recommendations obviously one of the things that's been sort of mind bending over these past couple of years as the extent of the Russian attack has become more clear and more firmly documented is that in the Senate under Mitch McConnell he really has not wanted to do anything not wanted to pass anything. He's block even consideration of bipartisan legislation to do anything to change the way that we run our elections to try to stop this from MHM happening again. Is there an expectation that since this is a bipartisan report since Chairman Chairman Burr as signed off on this that this might have been what McConnell was waiting for that he might allow some of these recommendations certainly hope so although <hes> just today he blocked two pieces of legislation from going to floor on election interference of by the Russians one of which would require candidates to inform the F._B._i.. When <hes> when there was interference from of foreign government the other one of which would supply resources to local government so as far as my count is that Mitch McConnell has blocked eight such pieces of legislation? Maybe this report will jar that loose but the other problem he he's dealing with at this. He's got a president who continues to deny that the Russians did this you know and in Helsinki stood next to Putin and took Putin's word on the world stage in Japan he he made a joke about this with Putin. I can assure assure you that are the people that produce this report. Do not think this is a joke. This is serious just like Western democracies all over Europe who are dealing with the fact that Russia's interfering in this way in their election so I think it's really important that our government and frankly our country have a strategic response to what Russia did in sixteen we still haven't responded to that as a country country and make sure that we're coordinating homeland security the F._B._i.. And local governments to do a better job making sure this doesn't happen again in twenty twenty one of them. Will it will happen again. We just need to make sure that were defending against Robert. Robert Muller was very clear on that last point yesterday saying it is happening as we speak it will happen twenty twenty they expect it. He was also Tamai to my mind. What was most striking to me about? Yesterday's testimony is how Blunt Robert Muller was about the issue of potential compromise about how people in the president's campaign did things and had financial entanglements that absolutely exposed them to being extorted or compromised by Russia and the president did to <hes> director molar then said that these are matters that were not within the purview of his report. This is stuff. That's been looked at or is being looked at by the F._B._i.. Made me curious as a member of the Intelligence Committee of somebody who has oversight over intelligence is that sort of thing that you will you and your committee will be able to pursue Muller's essentially saying that the F. B.. I've been looking into the question of the president being compromised by Russia. He didn't suggest that investigation is over. Well we know from the public record that there were numerous contacts between the campaign and the Russians Asians though president trump denied that over and over again it it's not true. I can't speak to what we're doing. <hes> inside the committee just wouldn't be right to do in terms of what the public doesn't ask you one last question. This is kind of what the report looks like today. It's uses a lot of toner. It's really really redacted. Are we the public ever going to see any more of this or is this all we're ever going to get. I don't know I think this is a negotiation between the committee and the intelligence community I do think which critical is at the public does know what we need to do as a country to respond to this not not just to protect ourselves but to punish people who do this to the United States of America the first step there of course is he's having a president who's willing to push back on tyrants that are attacking attacking the United States rather than coddling them and and a majority leader who could actually pass election protection legislation instead of blocking it from even coming up to a vote those would be important steps forward to being to being able to deal with this very real threat Michael Bennett member of the Senate Intelligence Committee Twenty Twenty presidential candidate. It's always a pleasure to have you hear grow to sue I appreciate it sir. Thanks very much all right. We'll be right back. Stay with us. Special Counsel Robert Muller was many things that his congressional testimony yesterday one of them consistently was terse which made for at. At times a hearing that was difficult to watch but there were a moments when even his terse answers came off as not just hearst but direct and unequivocal and very surprising given the provocative nature of the question that he was being asked. Could you say director Morello that the president was credible can answer that question director Merlo. Isn't it fair to say that the president's written answers were not only inadequate and incomplete because he didn't answer many of your questions but where he did his Asir showed that he wasn't always being truthful. I would say generally in a fair to say that the President Rip Presidents written answers were not always truthful I would say generally lying is a sin right. Thou shalt not bear false witness lying is also a pain in the but in a practical sense. If you tell lies you have to remember what they are forever which is an act of rote memorization that might just fail you someday and exposure as a liar. It's much easier to just tell the truth. You never need to remember anything but if you lied a federal investigators that is something more than a sin or pain in the but that's a crime crime when Robert Muller said yesterday that the president was not truthful in his written statements to federal investigators. That's a whole new problem we didn't have before and that's next garage rising anchored in your report you concluded that President trump and his personal council Rudy Giuliani quote made repeated statements suggesting that a pardon was a possibility for manafort while also making it clear that the president did not want Manafort to flip lip and cooperate with the government end quote is that correct and joining us now is congressman John Paul from Washington. She's a member of the House Judiciary Committee you saw her. They're questioning rob Roy Moore yesterday congresswoman. I really appreciate you making time to be here. Thank you it's great to be with you. Rachel first of all I have to tell you I've just been looking forward to talking to you about what you took away. From This Day of testimony your Co Chair of the Congressional Progressive Caucus very outspoken on the rise member of the Democratic Caucus and recognize. I think by all sides is that not on the Judiciary Committee. You had your own chance to question him. What meant the most to you about Morris testimony? I think kind of the most important pieces were that he repeatedly basically said that the president was was lying on a number of things he was not completely exonerated he actually did have substantial evidence that the president <hes> committed acts of obstruction and we went through five of those in fairly granular detail and what Robert Muller or didn't say didn't really matter because what he did is actually validate everything that was MS report that we know most people haven't read and most importantly we know bill bar tried to mislead and lie to the American people and so as I was sitting thing they're listening. I just kept thinking about how the Republicans kept actually asking things and reading things that helped us because they when Ken Buck asked Robert Muller. Can the president be prosecuted after he leaves office he asked twice he seemed surprised by the answer. There were other times where they read parts of the March twenty-seventh letter. You know there were a number times when I thought the Republicans felt very scattered in their approach. I think that you noticed a big change from when they were with us to when they <hes> the the Afternoon Intelligence Committee hearing they were much more gentle in some ways with Robert Muller because I think they came across as looking very petty undermining the sky who has has a long history of credibility working for Republican president so to me. It was a really important groundbreaking moment because we were able to get a lot of things on the table that we knew that were there but the American people did not thought there was one of the reasons that particular wanted to talk to you. Tonight is because of your role on the Judiciary Committee. I wanted to ask you about something. That actually happened in the other committee hearing in the Intelligence Committee under questioning from Congressman Val demings there was like a Jaw-dropping Ping moment where she asked him. If the president had been untruthful in his written testimony to investigators in Director Muller said generally yes effectively that was the exchange to me that seemed like a very big deal particularly for your committee for the Judiciary Committee to have notice confirmed by Director Muller that the president was untruthful in his written testimony to to to federal investigators that seems to me like a pretty serious allegation of criminal behavior on the part of the president was wondering what you thought of the significance of that moment or am I reading too much into it. No I thought it was very significant but don't forget that he has committed a number of acts and that's what we confirmed throughout. I think vow demings questioning just confirmed armed another thing that we already knew which is that he is not generally truthful but that was true even in the acts of obstruction so if you look at the fact that he engaged in direct witness tampering the fact that he dangled a pardon the fact that he told many other people to lie the fact that he tried to get through Corey Lewandowski. He tried to get the special counsel fired. I mean these are all acts that anybody else does these things they would be prosecuted and so I think we ended each of our pieces with that and I think vows piece was the perfect capstone in some ways because this is a guy who is not truthful. None of the people around him are truthful. This is a campaign that was rife both with contacts lying after saying things didn't happen. Don't forget also that hope Hicks lied to us <hes> we are going to have hope picks back before the Judiciary Committee. She said she had no knowledge of the hush. <hes> hush money that president trump paid that turns out not to be true and so this is just a network of lies. The president is sitting right in the Middle Spinning all of these lies and everybody around him is helping him to just continue to cover up congresswoman formula Paul Democratic member of the House Judiciary Committee Co Chair of the Congressional Progressive Caucus. It is great to have you here. Thanks for being here. Thanks so much much much more had stay with US joining us now as a man who needs needs no introduction on this program and for whom you require no explanation as to what he's doing here N._B._C. News presidential historian Michael Beschloss. I have been so looking forward to talking with you my friend. Thank you very much for making time <hes> when you watch the Robert Muller testimony yesterday did it seem to you like that word that we all bandy about way too easily now. Did it seem like an unprecedented thing or did it resonate with with you as with other moments in American history it did resonate because you know you're looking at moments in which a special counsel testified or important witness like John Dean against against Richard Nixon in one thousand nine hundred seventy three so it was sort of like that but at the same time this was a special counsel being almost dragged in their Rachel against his will and the reluctance you could see on his face all the time but I think they're moments that will linger in one of them for is something I did expect which is when he was talking about the attack on our democracy and he said I fear this is going to be the new normal. That's something I think will be reading about in twenty years. One of the things that I think happened immediately upon Muller sitting down and starting to speak is that there was a lot of reaction to him as a human being to him as a man to his perceived sort of frailty the halting being nature of his speech. I think he's he's a public figure who hasn't broken in public in a long time. It's been part of the mystique around the special counsel and I do think that that was the instant impression that was hard to escape at the start of the hearing and then over the course of the day. You realize that whatever you thought about his affect he was actually delivering quite a ton of information a lot of quite blockbuster. I wondered if there's any sort of precedent for that or that. Sort of demeanor of a witness ends up being important or forgotten in the long run well this says T._v.. and to some extent that's the reason why these hearings were staged and the fact that he was so reluctant. I think probably to some extent undercut this. We can think of other people who've testified before Congress in situations like this who are a lot more leaguer in terms of the Watergate precedent. I was thinking about what you said about John. Deans famous testimony we look back on that forty five years later and we get these hot moments from John Dean these satellites where he says incredibly devastating things but but in fact in real time when Dean was giving his testimony it was reading like hundreds of pages of an opening statement that just went on for hours and hours and hours and hours with no interruption absolutely he was told not to use his contact lenses because it might make him blink so he got some old glasses and he was told by his lawyers to speak in a very low voice because he was going to speak for such a long time. They didn't want his voice to get raspy and therefore perhaps not as believable as it would be the way he did. One of the things that it seems to me is an important potential path from Muller's testimony is the issue of the president's finances. I was struck by the fact that eight minutes after the Muller hearings were gaveled to a close the president's lawyers they were in court filing an emergency writ to try to block his tax returns from being released. We've talked a number of times about how a historical it is that he's kept his tax returns from public. Did you sense that there may be more urgency around that issue now. Certainly the White House seems more urgent about it might well be and there's a historical parallel to that because in one thousand nine hundred seventy three Richard Nixon there was a leak from his taxes showed he had paid a thousand dollars in one thousand nine hundred seventy nine hundred seventy one and so therefore there was a clamor for Nixon Nixon to show why he had paid so a few dollars on very big income so he released his taxes nineteen sixty-nine to nineteen seventy-two i._R._S. looked at it so did the joint committee on taxation of the Congress. They felt that he had underpaid his taxes by about four hundred seventy five thousand dollars the diamond and the Chandelier here Rachel is that that committee also went to the I._R._S. and said these years are not enough we want Nixon's taxes also from nineteen sixty six to nine hundred sixty eight and the I._R._S.. Comply they do give up those tax returns now part of the argument and the and the courts for why the committee should be able to get trump's taxes too fast. Everything old is new again once again N._B._C. News presidential historian Michael Beschloss. Thank you Sir Great Davir. My pleasure always right back. That's going to do it for US tonight. I'll see again tomorrow. I'm Rosenberg my new podcast youth.

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House Judiciary Chair: "We are now in a constitutional crisis"; CNN: Trump Jr. subpoenaed by GOP-led Senate Intel Committee; Top Dem: "We are on the road" toward impeaching Trump

"Tired of spending hundreds of dollars for prescription glasses. Xeni offers thousands of affordable. Eyewear styles starting at just six ninety five. No ridiculous markups. No hassles. Just quality affordable. I wear delivered right to you visits. Any today at Xeni dot com slash CNN. Next. It's war. Democrats say the United States isn't a constitutional crisis. Trump invoking executive privilege before the first time to stop Democrats in their tracks. Is he daring them to impeach him? Plus, more breaking news. The Republican led Senate intelligence committee subpoenas. Donald Trump junior Trump junior fighting back. So what exactly do they want from him right now and standoff with Iran tensions? Escalating tonight is the US on a path to a real war. Let's go out front. Good evening. I'm Erin Burnett out front tonight. The breaking news a constitutional crisis. Those are the words of the chairman of the House Judiciary committee, Jerry Nadler tonight. We are now in its we are now in a constitutional crisis. It's a huge statement coming from the man who has the power to launch peach mint proceedings against President Trump chairman Nadler saying there is a crisis because Torney general bars ignoring a subpoena, refusing to hand over the phone Mullah report and all of its underlying evidence. We cannot have a government where all the information is in the executive branch where the American people, and the congress are stone world, there can be no higher stakes. Then this attempt to. To arrogate all power to the executive branch away from the from congress and more important away from the American people. Now, there's words coming as his committee voted to hold the attorney general Bill bar, and contempt of congress setting the path to make history is only the second time on record attorney general has been held in contempt. But contempt is a word not an action. And this is clearly a real fight. The President Trump wants to have just listen to the White House spokesperson, Sarah Sanders, respond to chairman landlord tonight. It's truly outrageous and absurd with the chairman is doing and he should be embarrassed that he's behaving this. They like it. They relish this fight. Now, maybe playing right into Trump's hands. Trump today. Choosing to up the ante invoking his first executive privilege to force the issue by blocking the release of the full mullet report and its underlying evidence Trump wants escalate this war, and frankly, Democrats are biting. Every single day. Whether it's obstruction of -struction, obstruction of -struction of having people come to the table with facts of Norring subpoenas in every single day. The president is making a case he's met his becoming self impeachable on terms of some of the things that he was. Self impeachable. But look there's the thing. Even if that's what the president wants Nancy Pelosi is say if he thinks it helps him he didn't count on a key Republican standing up today, the Republican Senate intelligence committee, obviously chaired by Republican bar has just subpoenaed the president's son Donald Trump junior this according to sources who tell us lawmakers want to question Trump junior about a whole lot of issues connected to the Russia investigation. Kaitlan Collins is out front at the White House tonight and Caitlin. Are there? Any response to Nadler's comments when he he has come out. And look he's he knows full. Well, what he's saying when he says these things are not just words, he says, this is a constitutional crisis, the White House Aaron is basically saying the opposite of that the Democrats are forcing the president's hand here, and they're calling them on lawful and reckless in their measures here and saying essentially, Trump had no other option than to do this. Now, as you go to this is the first time, the president has invoked executive privilege and the Justice department is framing this as a protective measure, so then essentially they have more time. To go through documents that they can either deemed privilege or not privilege that some Democrats are saying they're not counting on that. Because they think that the White House is eager to have this fight. And that they're not actually going to hand over any documents. And the end of this now with the president if voting this privilege, it essentially gives the attorney general a shield here that he can say it does go to court, which Aaron of course, as you just laid out. It's looking like it's going to he can say that he'd Nord the subpoena because of what the president wanted him to do by invoking this privilege, but the question that Democrats have and even some skeptics around Washington is whether or not they've waived privilege by releasing having those people sit down with the special counsel, releasing the Muller report already in the version that they did. But the White House is insisting that the president has not done that yet. All right Caitlin. Thank you very much. And I want to go straight now to democratic congressman David cellini who is on the House Judiciary committee. Obviously chaired by Mr. Nadler. Are your committee voted today to hold attorney general Bill bar in contempt? So you. As I said, it's a word not an action. Can you explain why? Or what this accomplishes in practical terms, congressman, well, first of all, it's very important to note that the juice your committee has a responsibility to do oversight that requires us to collect evidence and to hear from witnesses who testify under oath, it simply cannot be the case of the executive branch is going to decide what witnesses will come. What documents will be produced because if we Lau the executive branch should do that it will essentially permit them to extinguish congressional oversight in its entirety. So this is an important principle of our separation of powers of our oversight responsibilities. We've issued a subpoena to the attorney general a lawful subpoena. He's defied that subpoena and the next step. We took today we adjudged him in contempt. We did a contempt report that will go to the floor at will also at the time it goes to the floor. Seek authorization to initiate a legal proceeding for us to enforce the subpoena. So this is a process we have to follow to litigated this and compel Mr. bar comply. And I think. In your early reporting. You're right. The president relishes this fight because the truth is the Democrats ran on the gender for the people of this country to drive down health care costs. Raise family, incomes rebuilding of our country and take on the serious corruption in Washington, the self-dealing and we're delivering on those results. The president has no record to speak of. And so he wants a fight about this. But we have to do both things we need to deliver on the promises we made and at the same time conduct responsible oversights. That's why we had to afford today. Okay. Now, you make your case for why this is oversight. But even Republicans on your committee, including congressman Doug Collins, just there don't believe anything. You just said here's what he said about your vote to hold barn. Contempt. They're willing to paint. The attorney general is is the bad guy in this. They want to paint the attorney general is someone people can't trust. Why? Because they don't want the findings that he had they don't like what came out of the mole report. This is just a show. Yes. Just to show. Doug Collins, couldn't be more wrong. Look, the attorney Joan the United States is the lawyer for the people this country who takes an oath to the constitution. He's not defense counsel to the president. What do we know? So far he first of all does a four page summary that totally mischaracterizes the report in an effort to kind of set the narrative for the president. He then says under oath that he doesn't know what Mr. Mollen thought of the four page report, we subsequently learn Mr Mulder sent him as scathing letter criticising his transition and. At the same time. He never disclosed that in his Senate testimony. So we know that this is a attorney general who's acting to defend the president the president said I want ROY Cohen. I want ROY Cohen. He got one was William bar. So now, what does he do? He refuses to turn over the unredacted mole report and all the supporting materials. So I think there's a lot of reason to question the integrity and the objectivity and impartiality of the attorney general he should be working for the people this country, not the president United States. So do you agree. We're in a constitutional crisis with chairman Adler. I think this is a very very grave moment for our country. This is only the second time in history that the attorney general the United States has been to judicata in contempt of the congress of the United States. This is deadly serious. We have to move forward in a sober and serious way. But look we have got to get access to all of the information to make informed judgments in this case, the president, and his minions cannot stonewall the American people cannot prevent congress from doing its work and finding. The truth. Whatever it is. I understand the points that you're trying to make. But when you say that this is contempt second time in history, all of these things, I guess the question at this point is if it is so dire and you have the power to launch impeachment proceedings, which you do on your committee. What is stopping you? If this is so serious. Well, look, I think there's no question that in president Nixon's impeachment the third article of impeachment was obstruction of congress. So there is no question that at some point if the presence effort to stonewall and prevent us from getting information continues that may form an independent basis for obstruction in and of itself. But we have a responsibility to do first is collect all the evidence. So we can make a fully informed. Judging we got part of the story in the in the model report that was the beginning of our work. We're asking for the balance of the report as well. As all the supporting materials, you know, it's important to remember the Ken Starr investigation when Ken Starr was done without report he delivered it to congress with eighteen boxes of documents and grin. Jerry proceedings. He went to the court to get permission to release the jury before congress even ask for it that kind of model we should be following here. That's right. Bill bar has not done that one crucial part of this. Of course, we'll be to get Bob Muller to testify. A few days ago. Mary Mary Kay, scaling was on the show. She was saying may fifteenth that was a done deal. Now it's unclear if he's even going to testify or not where do things stand. Are we going to hear from Muller or not? Well, I hope we are going to hear from Mr. Muller. The original did the chairman set aside was may fifteenth, but we hope that he will come before the committee. You might remember originally the president said it's up to the attorney general whether Mr. Muller will appear your turn Joan Vincent under oath. He had no objection to Mr. Moore appearing. And then lo and behold, the president decided he doesn't want Mr. Muller appear before the congress. Now, remember if this report really fully exonerated, the president every way wouldn't he be rushing to get Mr. hall in front of the congress and the American people I think that's further evidence that he doesn't want him to test. The American people deserve to hear from his Damola to to have having walked through this report to explain what the American, but what he found the judge made the decisions that we're going to fight hard to get the special counsel before the judiciary committee, congress and Cecil any. Thank you. Thanks for having me. And now John dean Nixon's white. House counsel during Watergate. Okay, john. So chairman Nadler, you're you heard congressman Cecil Leamy. He was actually careful to say dire dire moment, but not quite there. And constitutional crisis chairman Nadler is there he says this is a constitutional crisis. He's very clear it's for defying subpoenas. It's for not allowing oversight. It's for blocking testimony. It's for not providing the underlying information. It's all of those things you though, don't think we're quite there yet. So what gets us to a constitutional crisis? Wrote to me, obviously, different people have had different definitions of those words for me. It's always been when the constitutional process itself. Can't resolve a problem. For example, if the congress refuses to fund the government, you've got a constitutional crisis. If a branch of government refuses to honor say the the court order of one to the legislative or executive branch and they refused to comply. That's a constitutional crisis. What defines is bad? But it's not a crisis until a court says you must do it. And they still defy it. And we're not exactly exactly that's why congressman society described the process, and that's what we are in right now. So I want to play something else for you. That chairman Nadler set tonight John areas. I'm not gonna talk about impeachment. But they may be the short answer is that may not be the best answer in the in this constitutional crisis. Okay. How do we make sense of that? If you're watching this as a person home, you're saying, there's a constitutional crisis. And I I understand you're saying we're not there. But if you're Nadler, you're there, you say, it's a constitutional crisis. If this is a constitutional crisis, and it is caused by President Trump. How can they not move forward with impeachment proceedings? Well, as as have been mentioned several times article three against Nixon was for his failure to comply with any of the requests of congress during the impeachment proceeding. He just flat out stonewall them. And they impeached him based on that it was the weakest of the impeachment articles were held against Nixon. They were only voted on in the committee, never the fool congress. It's it's a tough case. And what they want to do is build up the full case against this man, rather than just go on thin case. All right. Don, Dane, thank you. Important explanations. Their next breaking news, Trump sons of peanut tonight. The Republican chair Senate intelligence committee, Republicans bordering Trump junior to testify. Why Trump now bragging about losing over a billion dollars the same man who said this I have made billions of dollars in business making deals much richer than anybody ever thought. But I have more money than anybody by far. And what's in a name for the new Royal baby. Tired of spending hundreds of dollars for prescription glasses. Our friends at Zanny optical offer, a huge variety of high quality stylish frames and state of the art optics starting at just six ninety five. 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They want him to testify against sure we've got the Miller report, they think that there's more to talk about sources telling CNN subpoena was issued after weeks of unsuccessful talks with Don, jR, a source close to Don, jR, slamming the subpoena saying quote, Don continues to cooperate by producing documents and is willing to answer written questions, but no lawyer would ever agree to allow their client to participate in. What is an obvious PR stunt from a so-called Republican Senator to cowardly to stand up to his boss. Mark Warner and the rest of the resistant Democrats on the committee. It's a pretty petulant non-legal sounding response. Phil Mattingly is out front, Phil. So let's get to the heart of this. What exactly is it that they want from Don, jR, not he's testified before and we have this giant Muller report? They now think there is more. Do you know what they're interested in hearing? It's important to note, the exact specifics still aren't totally clear, but what we know is that individuals have keyed on Don juniors. Testimony in front of multiple committees on Capitol Hill over the course of the last couple of years. This committee itself has had over the course of that period of time almost two years of investigation what they are likely looking into what we believe they're looking into right now is to specific occurrences related to pass testimony. And that is I the June twenty sixteen meeting and Trump Tower with individuals claiming they had dirt on Hillary Clinton. If you go through the molar report, you see that. While Don, jR, said he had only talked to two individuals about that meeting and advance. The mole report says he had talked to a broader group of individuals about that there is also Trump Tower Moscow. Michael cohen. And testifying in front of the committee that he had briefed on junior in twenty fifteen and two thousand sixteen on several several times about that issue. Don, jR, has testified about that issue in the past. It's safe to say the committee who has called a number of individuals back to testify for a second time is likely looking into those issues and potentially Moore's Weller. All right. So then, you know, we're now hearing this source close to Don, jR, come out with a statement that petulance statement as I referred to it as referring to chairman bore a bird, the Republican chairman of the committee as a so called Republican Senator to cowardly to stand up to Democrats, including his boss. Mark warner. Who is the Republican ranking member so? Let's get to the facts did did bar do this on his own or at the behest of Mark Warner? Or does he have the support of any other Republicans on on the committee tripling a little bit at the idea that Richard Burr who's pretty much well, considered to be a rock rib conservative with plenty of Republican bona fides is being called a so-called Republican, particularly by somebody who's committee is actually looking into look the difference between this committee and every other committee. That's looked into this on Capitol Hill is it has been bipartisan and Republicans throughout the course of the two plus year investigation have been completely unified about what the chairman Richard Burr, and what the vice chairman Mark Warner have decided to do the idea that Richard Burr would do this without the knowledge of other committee members Republicans on the committee rank and file Republicans on that committee is pretty far fetched given the how this investigation is gone throughout the course of the last two years, but it is interesting to note, you're already seeing Republicans not on the committee lash out a little bit rand Paul on Twitter. Republican House minority leader Kevin McCarthy on Twitter as well referencing. Mitch McConnell's case closed speech from yesterday. How this? Plays out over the course of next couple of days is going to be fascinating. But at least on the committee they've been unified throughout air. All right. Thank you very much, Phil. And I want to go now to former FBI special agent Oshawa in Gaba and White House correspondent for American urban radio networks, April Ryan all right ashes, so just on the facts of it, right? As we don't know exactly what they want. But we do know a lot of things are on the table Trump Tower Moscow meeting other things as well, should the president son be worried, he should definitely be worried, Erin. So he's already testified under oath and has certain answers on the record. And so you and those are by the way at odds with much of the evidence that Muller discovered show, for example, with the Trump Tower Moscow deal what Don jR, said about his knowledge and the timing of that deal is inconsistent with what was in fact true at what later Michael Cohen was charged with lying to congress about himself. So he definitely has a problem. He by. The way doesn't have any protection from things like executive privilege. He's not a part of this administration. He can't benefit from those things. So he does have exposure here at a criminal level, potentially. Okay. So I want to talk to you more about that April though in terms of this happening in the significance of it. Don juniors team trying to you know, just a insult the whole the whole committee right by saying so-called, Republican, and you know, doing the the big coward, and whatever they're calling Richard Burr. However, you have Republicans here unsure what to do Rampal tweeting as Bill mentioned, quote, apparently, the Republican chair of the Senate Intel committee didn't get the memo from the majority leader that this case was closed, and they're all referring to is what Mitch McConnell the majority leader said yesterday. That's right. This investigation went on for two years. It's fine. Like over in the special counsel is finding is clear case closed. Not clear with the Senate committee that has spent the most time investigating this April chaired by the respected conservative Republican Richard Burr. How significant is this? It's huge in the words of the president of the United States. Aaron this is significant case is not closed. What we're seeing is the fallout from this Muller report, contradictions what Muller did say, you know, what was left is for there to be investigations by congress and the Senate the house and the Senate if it will and it looks like that's happening. Don, jR, is thumbing his nose doing what his father is doing a doing what the attorney general is doing. But again, just like you said he has no say so in the midst of this yet, no protection, he has no safety net. So he is walking a tight rope in this has has huge repercussions one. It goes against the republic's Republicans are actually going against the Senate majority leader what he said case closed, which is not close and also going gets the president of the United States wishes, and then you have. The presence son his namesake named in going back about possible perjury or what else this has a lot of repercussions tickles. And we'll see what happens down the road. So I know we don't know. But when you think about this, which avenues, do you think this could be mostly about, obviously, there's possible perjury, right? What Donald Trump junior said under oath, which is inconsistent with what's in the Muller report, for example, when he said in to the Senate Judiciary committee. He was asked who he told about the Roscoe tower meeting and the mullahs report says he told a totally a much broader group of people. Right. So there's inconsistencies that could be perjury. There's also is there something new is there something else? They have they have come to inclusion of what about all those more than a dozen cases, which have been referred out from Muller. How big is the risk for Don jR? So the risk as I mentioned before as big as you just said, he it appears from basically his previous testimony. And what is in the Miller report that he may have perjured himself already? I think that there are potential avenues in those twelve farmed out cases or even in the New York attorney general's investigation that they're doing on the Trump organization that he might get caught up in in things involving financial shenanigans of the Trump organization. So I mean, you know, where the intelligence committee is going to go I think is really about the intelligence portion the C I portion the counterintelligence portion of this investigation, which we have not seen and his contacts. And you know, what was going on in Russia and April it also, of course, we're now hearing Don, jR, may consider not showing up which would be pretty incredible ended up itself just to not show up or taking the fifth would which at least give you a reason to do that. Of course when it comes to taking the fifth. We know what his father thinks about people who do that. Let me let him tell us. You see them out takes if if you're interested while you take in the fifth amendment when you have your staff taking the fifth amendment taken the fifth. So they're not prosecuted. I think it's disgraceful. I guess he'd say that doesn't apply this time. It's disgraceful. Yeah. Yeah. It. Yeah. It doesn't apply because his his son. It's not someone in the administration. But the president actually makes my point the point that I want to say is he Donald junior and the rest even Bill bar and even the president. They're not acting like people who are innocent. If there's nothing to hide the American public wants answers and information, why not give it why not give it the president talks about transparency there still such confusion? People are not certain about what is said in this mall report. Because the president says one thing attorney general Barr says another and Muller is saying something else. Donald junior is not acting like an innocent person. Thank you and next Democrats tip toeing tiptoeing tiptoeing closer to impeachment. We're inching towards it. Do you think the president should be impeached for on that road? On the road inching. Should they pull the trigger a Republican who voted to impeach Clinton weighs in next plus Trump now bragging about reportedly losing more than a billion dollars as a businessman to people who know exactly what was going on inside Trump's businesses at that time or front? I'm Biagio Messina. And I'm joke VIN soon. We are the producers behind the H L N television documentary series unmasking killer. Join us as we explore the identification capture and arrest of Joseph James de Angelo, the alleged Golden State killer in a special ten part podcast series unmasking killer, all new episodes premiering Tuesday. February twelve subscribed today at apple podcasts or wherever you listen to podcasts. Tonight inching towards impeachment. That's the word one democrat after another has been using saying the party is getting closer to launching impeachment proceedings against President Trump. Think we're inching closer to it every day that the president has a blanket privilege or just saying that he's going to have struck the congressional investigation. Yeah. For me, we're inching towards it. We have lawful responsibilities constitutional responsibilities to to engage in one of which is possibly impeachment. You think the president should be impeached? We're on that road right now. And we're certainly closer after the Muller report. So we'll they do it. And is that exactly what Trump wants? So I'll front now Ron plane former chief of staff to vice president Biden and former associate counsel to President Clinton and Rick Santorum, former Republican presidential candidate and former Senator from Pennsylvania who did vote to impeach President Clinton. Okay. Thanks to both run inching closer every day was the quote from one we're on the road from another. Okay. This is a whole lot of on the road thinking about it and inching at what point do they say come on pull the trigger? We'll look speaker Pelosi used the phrase today self impeachment to describe the president. And I think that's really the thing that house today voted contents are the committee voted, a contempt citation. I think what they're Democrats are sitting up is this. They're going to do their lawful oversight. If the administration cooperates, great, they'll use that process. But if President Trump makes an overly broad assertion of executive privilege, if he refuses to allow for lawful oversight, then they're going to be in a situation. Where impeachment really is the only option because. Of the choices. The president has made Senator we look that's not. It's obviously not the only option. I mean, Eric Holder withheld information, and they prior administration on a couple of occasions, and they only the they didn't try to impeach President Obama. What they did they went to court and the court found that they had to release the information. That's that's the path forward on on a document requests. It's not impeachment for document request. Well, we'll Senator I it's not just for document cross. Right. It's the Trump administration's across the board assertion that they're not going to comply with any lawful oversight activities. And you know, when when the Obama administration even after over seven thousand pages of documents twelve testimony by colder when they wouldn't turn over the last bit. You you call that irrigates on a path like Richard Nixon that was the comparison you made back in the Obama administration. So I think what we're seeing here is something far bold or far broader than that getting in the way of lawful oversight. It's going to be up to the Trump administration. Are they trying to move the bar like literally they get. This report. It's now almost completely unredacted on the obstruction section, right? And you've got more than five hundred former members of DOJ saying that's enough to impeach. You don't even need all this other stuff. And when you start using all this other stuff does it just sound like you're you just keep wanting to ask for things because you don't want to do it. Now. I don't think so I think look I think of course, they don't want to do it who wants to have it impeachment proceeding. I think the question is is it really the only way for congress to fulfill its constitutional responsibility of oversight of compliance with the law. That's the challenge, and that's the conflict that we're headed towards here. Okay. So Senator back to you. You have a little bit of an inconsistency here to answer for or you can explain why you think that we are wrong in pa- suggesting that it is such nineteen ninety eight you voted to impeach President Bill Clinton. And here's what you said at the time. Removing a president during you know, some of the more prosperous economic times and life is good here in America right now and removing someone who is seen as as at least in part responsible for this obviously is not going to be particularly popular thing. But you know, what we do? Here is going to set a standard for future presidents behavior and and future impeachment standards. And I think as well as conviction standards, and I think that's a very serious burden. Okay. How is that consistent with us saying now that there is no reason I didn't say there was no reason I said back then I can repeat today. I mean, we did so the standard, and we said and the standard was there was a special counsel, the special counsel found that the president had perjured himself something that was not found in the Muller report that he did violate the law series violation of the law, and we determined that we should move forward. But I can tell you. I think you saw it from from my from my remarks that was not an easy thing to do. Because we knew number one we weren't going to be successful. And number two, the president was very popular. So I mean, that's a tough. It's a tough thing. I think Nancy Pelosi has learned from that that maybe even though he may deserve it. And I don't I don't believe our isn't it does in this case. It's not maybe the right thing to Senator. Let me let me just ask you that. Because obviously, then you know, you had this whole investigation. And there was there was nothing impeachable found except for that. He lied about having sexual relations with Monica Lewinsky writes, this is a totally separate thing. Yes. Ally. It was perjury. I'm just making the point in this case, you have more than five hundred former members of the DOJ prosecutors saying that it's clear that the president obstructed Justice and committed multiple felonies right in the heart. The person responsible for that did not find that. And you have five hundred people. Kind of which is a separate issue. But but he did not find he said, I did not you guys destroyed. He did he didn't find. So. But in the reality is those five hundred people how many have dealt with an obstruction case where the president I would suspect not five hundred of them or anything close to that. This is a very unusual case and to to go out, and I think it was highly irregular and not helpful for them to go out, and and make this kind of claim when most of them don't even know what they're talking about. This is a very difficult case Nancy Pelosi is trying to thread the needle. I think what she's trying to do is impeach the president without impeaching him. Basically going through all these investigations causing causing him to to divert all his attention on on this issue and have this impeachment incense be done at the election. In november. Ron will look I agree with Rick. This is a difficult case. But let's talk about the case. I always you said hundreds of prosecutors, including Republicans who served on the Bush administration say. That the mole report points to acts of criminality Muller said pretty clearly I'm leaving this to congress to decide now that's up to congress to decide. I'd also say we all have to remember. There are lots of acts by the Trump administration that may be impeachable that thin Muller scope taking money from foreign governments interfering in regulatory processes. So I think congress has a lot of hard questions to ask ask those questions if the Trump administration won't cooperate. Then we may wind up on the road to impeachment. We're not there yet. But I think you know, we get closer and closer to it every day. Thank you both next. Trump reportedly losing more than a billion dollars in ten years. Did he break the law well to people who worked with Trump at that time Newman credibly, well, I'm going to talk about it? Plus, the top Trump adviser has always wanted to take on a Ron could that put the US now on a path to a real for? The case is we gotta find who wrote this. No, we do that. 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It was sport front. Now. Barbara res- former executive vice president at the Trump organization and author of all alone on the sixty eighth floor. How one woman changed the face of construction and Jack Donald former president and chief operating officer of Trump plaza hotel and casino. Both of you have extensive personal and professional knowledge of the president with all those years working for him during the period, the new tax records covers so Barbara let me start with you. You worked with him in this time, we see a billion dollars in losses. The president says, oh, this is just the way it was done. It was sport. What he? What do you say? Well, you know, it was haunted. First of all, my reaction to that. When I said that starting eighty five it was that was very surprised because eighty five he was just coming off Trump talent that was tremendous money maker fan, and he had the height going that was a big moneymaker. Now, I don't know if the casinos which rainy but other than that. I can't see where it would be losing any money at anything at that point. So Jack what about you you were working for Trump at the time? And obviously, you know, the casino side. What was that time? Like, what did you see when you saw a billion dollars in this report losses? Well, it was shocking air. And and believe me, it was no sport that was going on in the time that I worked for Trump on all of those losses are tied to one thing. And that's the debt that this man took on in many many of his deals. He did bad deals. He did it with the airline as an example. You know that that that crushed him? He also did it at the Taj Mahal he had eight hundred million dollars worth of debt at fourteen percent interest, which literally killed the casinos in Atlantic City. My property we we had one hundred million dollars in free cash flow a year for for out of that business. And because of what he did with the Taj Mahal he devastated the business and it eventually went bankrupt. So it's a series of a lot of bad deals. So do you think that this was just sort of, you know, look, I read every page of the tax code might my lawyers do obviously or or what he crossed the line. Well, it was certainly he would cross the line. Tony Schwartz raise. The question is the worst businessman or the big best cheap and or the worst cheap. And I definitely is. The worst cheat. He's that the worst businessman is not a good businessman. But as Jack says when he started getting mobbed with the with the plaza and the airline, and you know, even the boat, and the Taj Mahal that's one he really started losing money. That's why you know. That's why I said I qualified the beginning eighty five eighty six and then later, so let me ask you, according to the New York Times right year after year, and this time Trump was was a loser. He was losing more money than nearly any other individual tax payer in the United States in two of the years. He was the biggest loser in the United States by by factor of two. Okay. And he despises losers here. He is. This group of major losers. They've been stone cold losers the elite to crush, the loser terrorists, they are nothing, but Doug, and criminals and predators, and that's right losers. We have a bunch of losers. She's got a temperament of a loser. I know a lot of words, but somehow loser is so nice. Good work. Except for when it applies to him, Jack, how how much do you think it hurts him to hear be outed as such a loser? His word. Oh, I think that the article today was probably devastating for him. And I think that the what you alluded to is that it was he was identified as the biggest loser in the United States for most of these years. Nobody lost more money from a tax standpoint. So yes, I think he's he's angry tonight. And I think he's going to deflect as much as he can. So Barbara goes against everything. He said right now this has happened. I mean here he is during the campaign, right? He didn't sell himself as I lost a billion dollars. I'm a loser. He sold himself this way a winner. I have made billions of dollars in business making deals, I'm self funding. My campaign putting up my own money. I have more money than all of them turned out a much richer than anybody ever thought. I have more money than anybody by far. I say not in a braggadocious way, I've made billions and billions of dollars daily with people all over the world. It's an image that he cultivated on the apprentice, it's so court who he is. Here's that. The largest real estate developer in New York owned buildings all over the place model agencies the Miss Universe. Pageant jet line is golf courses casinos and private resorts. Like mar-a-lago? Fall apart. Well, first of all nonsense. He was the biggest of state development. He was not even on the on the radar. I mean, it was just he data couple buildings beside a big development and York does it full pot. I think that he came out big time and said, look, I I use the system. I'm so smart. I gamed the system and his people all going to go to that. They're going to believe that. So you've got the people the rest of us. No, no personally. No his biggest live in the world. And the people that are trying to win over. I'm not going to care. I mean, thank you and next tensions escalating between the United States and Iran, one of Trump's top officials John Bolton is he about to get what he has always wanted. The world gets gets the I look at Archie. Archie prince Achi? Remember to create an ad like this one visit pure winning dot com slash CNN. Tonight dangerous escalation between the United States and Orion and for some in the Trump administration everything they were waiting for. Michelle Kosinski is out front. His policy on Iran. Now seems squarely in the hands of the person who may be the most vocal committed decades long, Iran. Hawks in this administration national security adviser, John Bolton longer, we waited to confront the threat run poses the harder and more intractable. It will become to sob. That's from back in two thousand six embassador to the UN. But it's a stance that has lasted the Ayatollah Khomeini's nine thousand nine hundred seventy nine revolution will not last until its fortieth birthday. You remember John Bolton if anything John Bolton has become more determined that needs to be regime change in Iran regime, change. Receive chain in two thousand fifteen bulletin wrote. A New York Times op Ed called to stop Iran's bomb bomb Iran two years ago. He told the any k a group of and exiles once branded a terrorist organization by the US, and it should be US policy to overthrow Iran's Mola's three months ago. He tweeted this video. So I told her how many I don't think you'll have many more anniversaries to enjoy its rattled other members of the Trump administration at times like when Bolton asked the Pentagon for military options to strike Iran late last year after mortars were fired at two US compounds in Iraq thought to be the work of Iran. Backed groups first reported by the Wall Street Journal and this week it was Bolton not the Pentagon that announce the US's latest military move warning of unrelenting force if Iran attacked the US or allies. Exaggeration, though and cherry picking Intel to suit his views are things Bolton has been accused of multiple times, including his stance on the alleged weapons of mass destruction in Iraq that led to a US invasion. I think the overthrow of Saddam Hussein that military action was a resounding success now causing some worries that the US is latest news could spark still what worries me as you got Bolton's predisposition, and then you've got three or four actions in the last two weeks designed to poke around in the eye. I just I'm uncomfortable about where this is headed. Big questions about where it is headed tonight. Thanks to Michelle Kosinski, and Jeannie is next. The right sheets can take your sleep and your style to the next level with Boll and branch. The upgrade has never been more affordable. Every set is crafted from one hundred percents organic cotton. They get softer and softer over time. That's why they have thousands of five star reviews and even three US presidents have Boll and branch sheets. Try them for thirty nights. And if you don't love them, send them back for a full refund. 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