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Federal Government Adjusts 2020 Budget to N10.52tn, Adopts $25 Oil Benchmark
"You're listening to. The news are in Africa. Business radio the federal government and Wednesday adjusted a twenty twenty budgets downward from the original ten point five nine trillion. Naira two point five two trillion. Naira the budget deficits is an excess of five point three trillion naira. The approval was made in the Buddha by the Federal Executive Council. Meeting presided over by President. Muhammadu Buhari at the Senate House. The new Figo's we are captured in the revised twenty twenty medium term expenditure framework submitted to the council by the Minister of Finance budgets. National Planning Mrs. Sinnott amid permits is adjusted in the budgets. Include the crude oil bench McConnell for the court to twenty five dollars from thirty dollars the F. E. C. However took another five dollars of the benchmark on Wednesday and the latest caught to settle at twenty five dollars amid who spoke with statehouse. Correspondents after the meeting said daily. Crude oil production was not one point. Nine four million barrels per day while the non metallics change rates was put at three hundred and sixty naira per dollar and that was the news. At this time in Africa Business Radio you can continue to listen live online at. Www AFRICA BUSINESS RADIO DOT com. Or if I am unable. Thank you for listening.
Bold Transition: The Crossover
"On this episode of Transition Virginia if nobody is opposing, this consensus thing you've built is going far enough the special session in Richmond. Huge, National News, a special crossover episode with our friends at Dominion podcast I'm Michael Bull. No. That's old dominion host. Nathan more. That's pretty dirty trick. Guess I suppose I predict that I won't be disappointed with how little gets done. Bowl Dominion Producer Aren blue joins us to talk about the politics of the special session for moving qualified unique and actually moving money away from policing months rather than increasing it we talk about the budget every time I typed the word on a lot into my computer. My computer says what the hackers list this is not a word criminal justice reform. You can get the police agencies TO SWALLOW THE BAN ON WARREN'S But you also give them what they wanted the decertification and we talk about the statue of Robert e Lee and Charlottesville well, I don't want to get the money as much but Liz. Related, right? Yes. It's related and yes, he goes a lot of other cities interestingly like Richmond and some of the Hampton roads cities have already taken down their monuments. We're still waiting waiting for the lost cause to get lost property lease still standing up on top of that pedestal on his horse in the middle of downtown Charlottesville, all that and so much more on our special crossover episode of Transition Virginia and Bold Dominion. Old. Welcome to Transition Virginia podcast that examines the transition of power. Republican to Democrat. My name is Michael Pope and I'm Thomas Bowman. Today on the PODCAST, we're going to do something a little bit different. We are going to do a cross over episode with old, Dominion, please welcome to the show. Old Dominion Podcast, host, Nathan more a Thomas Michael. And we also have. Blue here the producer Old Dominion do is listening quietly in the background. Mostly as. Again. Well, let's go ahead and get this started Michael. We Love Your podcast. We've never done a crossover episode before so tell US Afar listeners a little bit about folding podcast. Yeah. I'm kind of excited about this crossover possibility as well. I'm gonNA reach the thousands and thousands and thousands listeners that you have transition. Virginia now and. The Sky's the limit. No. Literally doesn't. Bowl Dominion is a podcast that started in. January. It's funny I. Think you all and I had a similar idea at the same time. Um, which was we saw the democratic majorities come into power in Richmond? and. So for the first time in many many decades, we had a democratic governor and democratic majorities in both the House and Senate here in the state, and so for me, it was a matter of of trying to explain what goes on in state politics. I've got a lot of friends who are very political the post stuff on social media about national politics all the time they'll sometimes local issues as well but. When it comes to understanding state politics there's just this kind of barrage of news stories during legislative sessions, but it's almost like a gatling gun don't really understand the context for anything very well and and so I kind of wanted to to explain it and so each week rather every other week Free Jeff Assad on bold dominion we pose a big over arching question and then find some experts who journalists lawmakers, NGO type experts and have them help answer that question whether it's about what to do about the looming addiction crisis or how power actually works in the state is sort of economic basis of power in the Virginia way or whether it's Something else altogether, and so that's what we do Aryan came on board a few months ago. He's a student here at UVA and tremendously talented at. Putting together audio shows. Basically I was a student when the show was starting sank my teeth into it and every other student who was working on and got a job elsewhere so It's just me now. That's great. Well, we had a similar experience Michael and I. We've known each other for years and decided that I guess around the same time as you that we were missing an opportunity just to capture in a longer form the conversations and the dialogue going on around the transition of power generally speaking, and of course, you know I am a good Democrat and I think about how excited we all were for all of the new progressives who took power in twenty seventeen in two, thousand nineteen, and then I realized that being a file for data history. Honor Society person that we needed to be documenting all of these conversations around the transfer of power. For Posterity and I call it Michael Said Hey have you ever thought about doing a podcast? He talked me into it. You know documenting the transition of power was a pretty strong sell for me. You know I'm interested in history and interested in documenting things, and usually when the general simply isn't session I'm down there in Richmond Committee meetings talking to the lawmakers sort of living it, and so it's an opportunity for me do interview guests and talk to. Them and get their perspective on the transition of power. It's also sort of working time for me because the questions I asked of the lawmakers and the people that we have on the show, I often pullout soundbites and use them on the radio. So it's it's it's also actually working interviews for the times, but anyway, so Thomas did sell me on this idea and we have had fun with it and people are five listeners seem to like it. Down to five now, I was going to actually say that that. You are a professional documentary of going on in Richmond. Before this recording session, I really only knew you as as one of the Virginia public radio reporters who file and we occasionally air on Tj you here in Charlottesville and trademark out cue that like I'm Michael Pope. So. It's actually talk you now it's of cool So you talk about the special session coming up why is the General Assembly meeting again here in mid August. Mainly, the coronavirus also the criminal justice reform movement that's taking the country by storm, which in some ways is an outgrowth of pandemic crisis when the pandemic hit Virginia's revenues took a huge hit. So that budget that lawmakers passed earlier this year and they've got to throw that in the garbage can and so one of the first things that happen when the economic crisis hit was that lawmakers unelected all the money that they had previously allotted by the way. This is a word that only was recently created. The New Lug Ism of the week. Every time I typed the word unlocked into my computer. My computer says what the heck is this. This is not a word This was created this new bit of the lexicon created this year during the pandemic to on a lot. So basically what that means is it's the new spending. So this is another sort of wrinkle on this Democrats just recently took power after. Twenty years being out of power. So they pass their own budget with new spending priorities. This is the new liberal progressive spending priorities of the Democrats. That's the list of things that were unloaded. So it's not like all the stuff that the Republicans paid for it. Would they were in power the allotted money money that's been put on hold is just the new democratic priorities. So. Think about this you've been out of power. So long finally gain power, you pass a budget and it has all your priorities and then immediately before the money starts flowing band, they're all put on hold. So that's what they need to look at this list of unwanted items and they need to figure out why they can't afford what they can't afford. Michael and Thomas what's on this list of new spinning priorities that are now unloaded by analyzing? Really what they're doing is they're just pressing pause on all two point seven billion dollars in new spending, and then they're coming back in these weeks here to turn on those lights if they have the money for it and they will be leaving lights off probably. Until. January if they think, they don't have the money for it. Yet, all of the things that have been put on hold is a huge array of various different kinds of things for example, services for domestic violence victims, mental health reforms the biggest pot of money, and the thing that's gotten people worked up is raises for teachers and spending on public education. So if you think about what happened the last time, the economy crashed funding for the schools, which is a major chunk of the state's budget was cut severely, and so this budget cycle with the Democrats taking power is the first opportunity to restore funding to the levels they had been before the last economic crisis. So when they left town before the pandemic it. This year Democrats were patting themselves on the back for finally restoring education funding to what it has been the last economic crisis to. We're talking about race. Yeah. Right. Exactly a decade ago, and so now all of that is in jeopardy and they're going to need to figure out how much of that they can afford and how much of that they can't. What do we think the amount is going to be like how much they can afford or not afford with all this I mean it sounded like the couvert related tax revenues are definitely gonNA. Be Down like substantially down but not quite as I dunno catastrophic is maybe some of the early projections and fears would have suggested. I would throw out there. In some ways it's premature to even consider that the final chapter on Virginia's budget was during the Cova era. because. We're pretty sure this is going to come and go and waves right and so you're going to have A. Payroll withholdings going up and going down based off whether or not people are working and the stock market could also take a dive which puts Virginia's budget back into crisis and so in my opinion, just as a strategist, he's been actually studying krona virus policy. There's. You might be able to level the criticism that they're not being ambitious enough in the scope and breadth of social reforms that are going to be needed to get Virginians through this crisis in the long term. From their perspective as like, we're here to put out a fire. There's actually a much smaller fire at this moment in time the nick expected there to be. Nathan there's another interesting thing that WANNA keep in mind think about the current budget discussion, which is all these moving pieces. It's not just cutting stuff. It's also adding new stuff because they're also considering all this criminal justice reform stuff, some of which will cost money, and so they need to figure out if a cut stuff and then they add new spending, they need to cut more stuff. For example, one of the issues they're talking about is like having database of bad cops. So they don't get hired other police agencies. Well, you got to create a database gotta pay for people to maintain it. One of the things that talking about is allowing defendants in jury trials being sentenced by a judge rather than during well, that's going to increase dramatically your number of jury trials probably. Paying jury trials takes money how much money does it take, and so it would be one thing lawmakers were coming just to put together a new budget that would actually take a day or two. But what they're actually attempting to do is much more complicated because you're cutting a bunch of stuff from the budget, but then you're also adding new stuff. So it's a constantly moving target in terms of how much money do you need to cut because you're also adding new stuff Right. Right. What. So we have a democratic majorities in both the House and the Senate House still gets in the state Senate. What are they hoping to accomplish with the Special Session this week? Well aside from creating a new budget and seeing how many of their own allotted priorities they can re. Allot is a lot of word. Let's add this to the LEXA. It is. Now if lots of word relay definitely is. The real debate and the drama is going to be about criminal justice reform and how much criminal justice reform they're able to do, and how much they're not going to be able to do is also some drama with covid relief. You know a one of the things that just barely didn't make it over the finish line early this year was paid sick days and we've already seen some drama on this on the Senate. Side of where Senator Barbara Evola had a bill that would require all employers to offer paid sick days and she tweaked a little bit. So it only applies to fulltime employees because the reason this actually died was a concern with the state budget that if the state required paid sick days for all of its part time employees that would actually be really expensive and so they decided not to do that it sort of died. Then the pandemic it and people said, you paid sick days might actually be a pretty good idea. So they brought it back during the special session but the business community came out hard against this thing chamber of commerce and all the business groups and the trucking association surprise is right hey, surprise well, well, not necessarily, but it's possible. Advocates could've worked with the business community to see if they might have gotten some purchase. Know Interestingly. We've seen that strategy work actually pretty well with criminal justice reform you see the criminal justice reform advocates working with law enforcement to cut deals on things So we actually have seen movement on criminal justice reform in policing reform already, but we have not seen that on paid sick days. So the business community came out against this idea and it died on the Senate side another still a house version of this. Get Elizabeth Guzman. Apparently will have a bill on this. It actually hasn't dropped yet. This is another sort of weird thing on this is how. Sort scattershot and ramshackle. This whole thing is like normally what happens in a special session everything is nailed down and use come the richmond the actual formal vote this and this special session you've got with Guzman is talking about bill she hasn't even been introduced yet. So that's where we are now, but she's going to apparently introduce a version of paid sick days on the house side out where it has already passed this year it passed in a much stronger version that included part time employees and so. I think what's going to happen is we'll see the house move forward on this it'll get back to the Senate and who knows what's GonNa to there you know the the there was a rather lopsided vote in the Senate committee that took this up the vast majority of the members voted against it I. Think there only three members that voted in favor of it. So I would expect to see some more drum on paid sick days during the special session with the paid sick leave I seem to See this. Off and on in Virginia politics where we're the state is definitely turned more blue right and so we've got a number of reforms built around different social issues and social causes, and those are all well and good when it comes to sort of like pro worker legislation, we're still not exactly what I'd call progressive even though the democratic majorities in both houses Thomas to talk about the right to work law and how it has shaped Virginia Labor policies since the nineteen forties loved to hear more about workload how it shapes. The forties. Weak- do whole episode Jerry could be an entirely different podcast on all of that. But quickly look Virginia's got a history of anti-labour goes back to Virginia's slave status where it believes that you shouldn't have to pay for Labor. It believes Labor is an asset right to the individual and you can own it and the way that modern plantation economy works in. Twenty twenty is that you get the retail federation coming out and you get the NFL be coming out and saying, no, we can't give people benefits even though we're in the middle of a pandemic because it could overly bird in a few employers to if they're retailers probably going under anyway. Right. So Harry, Byrd pioneered this back in the nineteen twenties when. He debuted the model of fiscally conservative and socially liberal right and so what he used were fiscally conservative arguments to say that we don't have the money anymore to help black people and institute programs that were actually going to help more black people in his opinion than white people and so that led to him convincing governor Tuck who was a wildly populist governor who had already supported the new deal for example, that when he came to kiss Harry Birds Ring for an endorsement, he ended up having to publicly go back and unendorse the. New Deal right because it was going to help more people of color then it was going to help white people in Senator Byrd's mind, and so you see now is not a republican or a democratic majority conservative business majority, which are the owners right and this is the owners arguing amongst themselves as to how many new benefits, how much money they can extend to people that they would rather not pay in the first place the human resource, very similar thing when their last episode on landlords and fiction seems like a very much. The people deciding what's going on or those who owned the land not the people who are renting. And you see a lot of. Material. And substantive differences in attitude between the House and the Senate a lot of that's generational and for all of us Gung Ho. Liberals Wild Liberals as we've been called in the past, the risk is like you might be able to get it to the house, but you can't get it through the Senate and so what the risk is for this session, this is a really long winded way of getting around to Nathan your original question. So the Senate's doing it's fast docket trying to just kinda slip everything out as quickly as a can. In bills that it believes those owners will find acceptable right and the house which was going to do a lot more progressive hard hitting legislation has been delayed by this rule change for a week to slow down the train. So the risk is that they end up killing each other's bills and I don't think you're not gonNA have anything come out of this session. It's just The risk is at the session is not nearly as productive as you want it to be if the Senate doesn't go far enough the house is GonNa kill that bill and if the House version goes too far the Senate's GonNa kill that Bill. So where the rubber meets the road on individual legislation is going to be determined by whether or not. There's consensus among the stakeholders. And also if you think about the Labor bills that were considered earlier this year after the Democrats took power the there was a consideration to do away with this right to work law in Virginia, which actually limits the ability of unions to exercise power that actually went nowhere even though Democrats are in power, and then also we saw some differences between the House and the Senate and House wanted to have collective bargaining or state employees. Well, that did not make it through the Senate and you had Democratic senators in the new empowered majority and the Democratic Senate pushing back against collective bargaining. So this is. One of the dynamics that we've seen emerge since the Democrats took power is a health that's very liberal, very progressive. They want to move forward on this labor agenda like what bargaining for state workers where you got the Senate Democrats who are probably more conservative, probably a little bit older more your sort of traditional model of Democrats they've been pushing back on this. This is another dynamic is that a lot of times what happens in Richmond is not necessarily Republicans versus Democrats it's house versus the Senate, and that's what we've seen on this labor issue is a real difference in approach between the House and the Senate. And tell me you know during the Republican majority's when the Republicans have majorities in both the House and the Senate did it play out similarly was the house more conservative and far-right than the Senate was the Senate more tempered Certainly. Now we're seeing the House I've talked to Sally Hudson about this represents the Charlottesville area you know said, look there's some of us that are very progressive WanNa see things move faster and harder and typically the Senate says now let's put the brakes on a little bit but we'll give you something. A has that dynamic always been the sentence tempering force or or is that just list Nathan? The House represents each house member today represents about things like. Constituents right. So what you have is a pretty parochial house member. When it comes to their district issues. If you compare that with the senator who's got I think it's two hundred and eighty or three hundred thousand individual constituents in that district. Yeah. They're going to be pretty homogeneous in places like northern Virginia where there are a lot of Senate district packed in with each other. But if you go out pass Charlottesville down toward eighty one and south side, those Senate districts become pretty expensive and so you wind up having to Juggle Republican or Democrat you have to juggle very diverse constituencies in these places and yes. So what you get is the Senate is Always, probably, GONNA track toward the middle no matter who's in charge just because of the way that Virginia has set up its government, the house has always been prone to regionalism and has always been to demagoguery and a lot of ways, and also the best member to be in the house the speaker, right because the speaker is all powerful in Virginia and you want to leverage your power as the speaker amongst your members. But if you are the Senate, you don't have an equivalent power of speaker as you have to build consensus by definition of your government. Governmental System. So it's I think that you can change the generation of the people in charge, but you're not going to change the character of the elected body as of four hundred year old institution just because you get a little bit of new blood also, it's important to think about how the system actually works. Yes it's true that the. Tends to be more aggressive. The Senate tends to be the sort of moderating force. The federal government was actually intentionally set up to have that model in those attained his quote from Thomas Jefferson about these Senate being cooling saucers. The house is like hot liquid. The Senate is the cooling saucer. It's important to note though that Virginia was not set up that way it actually all that way over long period of time you know the house is four hundred years old the Senate is not coroner's it's two one, hundred years old and so the Senate actually was added. It's almost like as an afterthought, but the way it actually works now operationally is that it becomes that moderating force for a couple of reasons. One is house districts are really small and they're elected every two years. Senate districts are very large and they're like an every four years. So what you see is a lot of times the House members will do, what's what they think is popular in their district and they're constantly election cycle and they're constantly going back to their voters and hearing you should do this and you shouldn't do this. Why haven't you done this yet? And the senators at least the way the system is supposed to work are able to take a longer term view and take difficult boats and that when they worry about it, they're not going to be elected again. So another three years you know if you think about our current senators, they can right now make votes that. They don't necessarily have to answer to voters for several years, three years, and so the way the system. Probably is supposed to work is that the house is more aggressive and the Senate is that monitoring force and yes that is how things happened when Republicans were in power Republican house was always much more aggressive with their conservative agenda and they constantly being pulled back but more moderate Republicans. And also says I I spoke briefly about the generational impact of of you know the house versus Senate. The Senate also Senate has a bunch of old members who've been there a really long time and or many of those people are not likely to run for reelection. So. Especially, the older and more conservative Democrats have. Collectively. Agreed to say screw it we're going to be. A brick wall is not the right way to consider it but there they are going to be the counterweight that swings the pendulum. Why don't we take a break now and when we come back, we'll talk about criminal justice reform and what lawmakers hope to accomplish during the special session in which. And, we're back on Transition Virginia and Old Dominion podcast. We're talking about special session all of the on a lot at the items criminal justice reform Nathan I want to go to way out in Charlottesville, which, of course, has seen a lot of drama involving. Statutes and like lives matter demonstrations. What's the hope out there in Charlottesville of action on criminal justice, reform? Well, the folks that advocate for criminal justice reform that I've seen I. Mean it's not a monolithic group right and you have some of the radicals that are literally saying, abolish the police and you have a lot more people that are in sort of. Some somewhere on the spectrum of, let's reform the police and reallocate or allocate. Certain funds and put them toward other uses and those uses would be more like a an armed intervention through social service agencies. Things like that. You know getting homeless people into shelters not into jails. Dealing with domestic incidents with onsite counselors and social workers, not with cops. that. A lot of the more you know sort of good community policing model of of officers already talk about really. You know there's a lot of police that I've got a neighbor even just tell personal anecdote. WHO's a police officer at the university used to be a city cop and he says, you see a lot of this and he he considered bad policing more than a structural problem. I think though that there are also a lot of calls saying like you know there are structural things going on though that go deep into the ideology of policing and yeah maybe getting some bad apples out as good. But there are some real needs for citizen transparency and accountability as well as how we allocate the funds. So that's kind of been observing You know Charlottesville has not seen what Richmond has with the same nightly protests and fairmount property destruction here, the demonstrations since the murder George Floyd have been. At. TIMES PRETTY You know hundreds of people occupying a major intersection at barracks road and Emmett Street for example, but. But by and large, they haven't been damaging to property much less people and so I think You know that that's kind of a Charlottesville thing you know. Tends to be more polite. and. Some other places as sort of a political value. And you know sometimes to his detriment because then things get papered over that really shouldn't be papered over But in this case I think well, I don't WanNa get into monuments as much related right that Charlottesville and there's a student at Charlottesville highs I bryant who's a teenager at the time. Now she's a UvA student started a petition to take down the the the memorials to Robert e Lee and Stonewall Jackson. who were never in Charlottesville don't have roots here, but they're statues were put up in the early twentieth century as a way of sort of you know showing black folks their place was and making these whites only park. So celebration of the confederacy and so yes, I throw this petition a couple of other city councillors had been talking about it at the same time and so yeah, the mid twenty arts the city council took. The issue and voted to take him down well, then it turns out the state came in and a bunch of pro confederate groups came in and said, you can't do that. You can't do that, and so you know we ended up with the unite the right rally, which was both tragedy and and morass all at the same time in August twenty seventeen and the fallout is still certainly being felt a lot of other cities. Interestingly, Richmond and some of the Hampton roads cities have already taken down their monuments families to do so we're still waiting here as of this recording and Robert e Lee is still standing up on top of that pedestal on his horse in the middle of downtown Charlottesville that'll probably change, but it hasn't yet do you get the sense from all those stories coming out of the special session that the legislature will go far enough. I mean that's a tricky question to answer because you know there's there's a lot of different people in Charleston County of lot of different opinions I think you know this does tend to be a a very liberal town There are certainly a lot of people who advocate things like paid sick leave and a higher minimum wage and reforms to policing. But again, it's not monolithic if you ask. An average person in Charlottesville what their position was unqualified immunity for whether police officers should be able to be sued more easily or not. They probably don't know. Honestly it's sort of getting into the weeds a little bit on that and I do look for conversation here as we talk about what that means and what is likely to happen I. Know The African American residents of Charlottesville, who I`ve Spoken with or read stories about in the News Charlottesville has this outside a reputation of being. A Happy Place you go you go to the university and go visit wineries and there's live music and Haw, and for a lot of the longtime residents of African American families, there's a long history though of real systemic. Racism in this town same as across Virginia. But CHARLOTTESVILLE has a very liberal veneer which makes it a little more complicated. There's a now passed away city council member some years ago Holly Edwards who Who's great I mean she's very much respected by a lot of people in Charlottesville and a few years ago but she had a great line. I saw her. Say. One time where you know here in Charlottesville now we've gotten to the point that Charlottesville. Let's let kids into its schools and black people are welcome at the cultural events and music events and black people are welcome to even live in the neighborhoods next to white folks sometimes although it's still pretty segregated but the real economic power in Charlottesville those doors remained closed to black folks for the most part and so those pathways to wealth-building and power remained pretty tightly controlled by a fairly small number of people. Yeah in terms of when you say how how worried one would be about how whether the is going GonNa go far enough. That's always something I'm I'm concerned about at least is we'll get something like I mean it's important to get you know monuments remove those sorts of important cultural issues but it's always you're not sure if they're gonNa go far enough on the economic and the Legislative the justice side like removing qualified immunity and. Actually moving money away from policing funds, rather increasing it and those things personally I am not sure if they'll get that down I certainly hope. So to make this kind of actual sweeping policy changes that affect allies of seventy black and brown people in the state. We're only a couple of hours really special session, but the Senate has already taken very dramatic steps on this. They had a policing reform bill that made it out of a committee that does a lot of what we're talking about here in terms of performing policing, and it was done in a way where a senators who are working on this actually got by from the police chiefs and they got buy in from all the sheriffs in Virginia and buying from the state police and it was done in a way where they negotiated and pieces. Of this so that there was no opposition. So when the bill was presented in the Senate committee, there were zero people that spoke in opposition to it, and this was done by copper series of compromises that were made before the bill was even presented. So a couple of good examples on this the original version that people were talking about was a ban on chuckle you probably heard people talk about this chokehold. So they negotiated with the police chiefs who said, well, you know what sometimes chokehold is warranted and there might be a life threatening. Situation, and so what they ended up doing is not a ban on choke holds the band that the version that got out of the Senate actually allows choke holds in some circumstances. Now, you might say, well, that's compromise and that's a bad idea and that doesn't achieve all the things that we want to. But lawmaking is compared to sausage making for this reason because you're not really going to get anything less you compromise and so that's the compromise that they made in the Senate committee another with search warrants at night. So the Briana Taylor. Case has raised all these issues about the no knock warrants and also whether or not it's a good idea to serve a search warrant at night. So the original version of the bill actually put a new hurdle on getting a search warrant to be executed at knife. So it said you had to go to a judge to get the search warrant executed at night. You could get it from your just your local magistrate UN to sort of know bother a judge at three am and get the judge to sign off on the search work at. and. So what happens in the negotiation process? You had a lot of these rural law enforcement agencies that say, Hey, you know our our circuit court out here actually covers several different counties and judges or are scattershot. The judge might actually be two counties away. We don't really have all that many of them. So there might be examples out in rural South West Virginia where a judge might. Not Be available at three am under any circumstance. So they actually compromise in the version of the Senate committee says, well, you know what? You need a judge that search at night unless a judge is not available and you documented the is unavailable then you can get your search warrants and that's a compromise also military equipment. So we've seen a lot of discussion about police officers using military. Tanks and assault weapons and ammunition, and all kinds of things that you see police agencies use military equipment, and this has raised a lot of ir n people. So the original version of the Senate bill said A. Ban. The your local police agencies in Virginia. CanNot. Get. Military equipment from the Pentagon through this thing called the ten, thirty, three program they a lot of police agencies get all this stuff like m. wraps and stuff like that. So the original for Senate version, which is outright ban of military equipment ten, thirty, three program. So they negotiated with the sheriff's office says the sheriff's now the sheriff's they want some of this military equipment like filing cabinets, laptop computers. You know stuff that you actually wouldn't even think of his military equipment but is available through the ten thirty three program. One thing that was kind of a sticking point is camouflaged uniforms. So the the advocates who were in favor of policing reform yielded on this issue, and so now under the version that got him Senate, your local police agency would be able to get camouflage uniforms from the military, but some of this ammunition might be banned or some of these other sort of. Weapons might not be available these mine resistant vehicles you would not be able to get them in. There are police agencies in Virginia that have mine-resistant vehicles got through this temporary programs that would be banned under the. So the this is sausage making and there are a series of compromises that have been made along the way. However, the important part is it got out of the Senate committee. So know we're only really a few hours and in special session and they've already achieved. Movement on a lot of this stuff like banning no knock warrants and they got the police chiefs signed off on on a lot of this stuff by giving them what they want on decertification. So it's actually really hard to decertify a police officer in Virginia because the way the system is set up, they can game the system. So if you're an officer who is facing a decertification procedure, you can actually resign while the procedure is going on and it terminates the preceding and then. You can go to another department and get hired and they don't know that determination proceeding and they can't get that documentation because the way the system is set up. So the police agencies actually have been pushing really hard for new decertification procedures, which is in the bill. So what the approach that they've taken on the Senate side is to put all this stuff in an omnibus bill and you can get the police agencies to swallow the ban on no knock warrants which they don't like. But you also give them what they wanted on the decertification. That's the approach they taken on the Senate the house even mind they haven't done anything yet because they're still arguing about their procedure when they get around to doing stuff, they're taking a different approach, which is each one of these things is going to be an individual bill, and so I think what you're going to see there is the police agencies are actually going to push back on some of this stuff that's in the omnibus version of the Senate bill. So I guess wound up seeing which strategy is more successful. Yeah that'll be an interesting thing to see for sure I. Know You mentioned a couple of things that already are not in the Senate. Omnibus Bill as far as compromise loopholes and different things that are that are sort of tempering some of the reforms. One of the big ones that's been discussed in the press a bit is qualified immunity and how that's not in that bill to change What that means what is qualified immediately mean in wise is the Senate not including that one in their in their billion. So qualified immunity is a judicial doctrine that makes it really difficult or you to sue a police officer in his or her individual capacity. Its Way Do Challenge Authority when authorities has done wrong things and so there are lots of defense attorneys that wants to either get rid of qualified immunity or soften it up or. I guess unqualified if you think about an allotment unqualified. So in any event, the I, we've seen movement on the house side or at least we've seen house members who are interested in doing this. I don't think they've actually dropped the bills on this yet but you're right that qualified immunity is not in the Senate version and you know my gut feeling is that they felt like there'd be so much resistance to it. They wouldn't be able to accomplish their other things. So again, going back to their overall strategy with the omnibus bill I think their strategy. If pushing back on qualified immunity is in our policing reform bill, it won't pass. And we want this to pass. So I think their strategy is to keep the powder dry on qualified immunity for now maybe become back to it later but I think just my gut feeling is they were doing the headcount and the votes were therefore it. And to add to Michael a lot of the legislature feels that qualified immunity and the problems that we are having with it it's a symptom underlying issues like the cops are not trained well enough or long enough the cops are they are overburdened in all of the things that society asked them to do and how little they get paid. So from that perspective, you know it's like, okay well, you're you're. Creating more hurdles to job. It's already not worth it from the police perspective, and then from a what we learned in our last published episode of Transition Virginia from Sarah Taylor is that you know localities, US qualified immunity all the time they use them. In case, their garbage collector runs over your mailbox or the firemen knocks out your window trying to get into your burning house right? So qualified immunity is not. As a policy is not from their perspective, the problem. The problem is who is allowed to be officers in the first place, the conduct of the police officers, and maybe that is reflected by the lack of training relative to other elements of society, and so in. My opinion while qualified immunity is certainly a sexy policy topic, it's probably not the area where we're going to get the most. Bang for our buck as reformers we need to and I think the legislature is taking this track. They're they're really looking at what are the underlying causes and that's what they won't want to change. They don't have to deal with the. Hot Potato of qualified immunity which everyone agrees you know if you are. Malicious you should be prosecuted for it, and so there's A. Maybe there's going to be an exemption to qualified immunity based off intent or some other kind of narrowly tailored resolve but the reality is that the legislature is more focused on other elements that go into police reform. Another criminal justice reform effort that I think is going to be worth watching during the special session is pretextual policing. So if you are pulled over because the light illuminating, your license plate isn't working and then they asked to search your car, the light bulb that wasn't working was actually a pretext pulling you over but then they asked to search your car right so there's actually a famous case out of Hampton where a black man was driving with A. Parking. Pass on his rear view mirrors actually parking pass from Fort Lee new officer used the parking pass dangling from the rear view mirror to pull the person over and use that as a pretext to search the car he was into his arrested and the lawyer wanted to throw out at all the evidence that was gathered in that traffic stop because of this pretext of politics someone over because something was dangling from a rear view mirror by the way. Against the law, so your parking pass that's dangling from your rear view, Mirror your graduation Tassell your rosary beads. Can Use that as a pretext to pull you over and asked to search your car in this Hampton case, the lawyer WanNa, throw out all the evidence that was gathered in that traffic stop in the Virginia Supreme, court ended up ruling of this and saying, no, the police officers were had every right to use that as a pretext, pull you over. So we're going to see some debate during the special session to go into the code and pull out some reasons for pulling people over. So you call the state primary offense for a secondary offense. So if it's a primary offense, they can pull you over because of it, but it's the secondary events they can't go you over for it but. They can later charged with it. So having the light bulb, illuminate your license plate, oftentimes us to pull over black people and asked to search their car. That's one of the things they're talking about removing that as a primary offense, the things dangling from the rear view mirror, and so we've seen advocates create a list of things that they want to pull out of the primary offenses. Republican. pushback of this is actually really interesting because I talked to senator owed chain who is a Republican who is on the Senate committee that looks at this sort of stuff and he says, and this was a really interesting argument that Democrats actually have been adding pretextual policing for years for things like cell phones or. The use of car seats for children or all manner of things where Democrats want to influence behavior they had added pretextual policing and that open chain actually push back on news of cell phones as primary offense he was opposed to that when they were debating abyss lost that argument and Democrats won and now police officers can pull you over because they see you doing something on your phone that's now a primary offense that's pretextual policing. So his argument is if you're going to do this be consistent about it. And so we actually might see a chain reaction of stuff happening as a result of criminal justice reform that actually has nothing to do with criminal justice reform at all but has it has to do with. The use of cell phones would be a good example and so this debate about three textual policing is something to watch during the special session the some of the demands and reforms and actions called for by the de-fund activists things like actually reducing armed officers. The notion that if you've got armed officers, you know they're gonNA treat every problem is a nail and all they've got a hammer. And this idea of replacing policing with public safety as mindset and framework to approach this what I'm hearing as far as the reforms in in the assembly right now is a lot of reforms to particular parts of the code that might rain in certain behaviors of police but is there anything or any talk more in line with this notion of changing framework of public safety? Yes I think A. Lot of that discussion is actually about the neutral health issues. So because of the way, the mental health system works in America and in Virginia your first responders are often police officers and people with mental health problems often get wrapped up in the criminal justice system which does nobody any good I mean it's really a terrible idea to have someone would mental health being charged with a criminal offence and? Being in jail and recently I've covered really tragic case up here in northern Virginia of a woman with very serious mental illness who had a run in with elise and then she ended up in the Fairfax County jail and then the sheriff's deputies out there hitter with a Taser and she died because of being hit with a Taser and so this woman she was suffering from serious mental illness she. Should not have been wrapped up in the criminal justice system. She should not have been in the jail and she also should not have been hit by her. So going back to what you're talking about if the police officers who responded to that incident, maybe have the training and mental health or if they were able to take her somewhere other than the jail, she might be alive today and so. This is some of the stuff that were debating in the special session is training for police officers or mental health response units as opposed to police response units, and of course, like anything. This costs money, and so part of the debate is are all great ideas or also trying to slash like millions of dollars of our budget. So it's a balancing act. They're doing this year Nathan. The other thing too is they are looking at this special session as really closing the arteries stopping the bleeding. This is not in the legislators, mind the session for large systemic reforms that take policy. Research and sussing things out with all the advocates and stakeholders. That's GonNa come in January what you're saying this special session are what are the things we can do? What can we nibble around the edges on that relieve the pressure quickly both economically, and also socially, and yeah the criticism that they're going to open themselves up to is not having gone far enough at the time when it was needed. But from their perspective and the perspective of a lot of Virginia government policymakers it's a marathon, not a sprint and give us time to get it right right. One thing you're really likely to hear at the end of this legislative session is that Virginia will be now the second state to do automatic expansion Pennsylvania is the first This is actually really groundbreaking and a lot of ways because arrests stay on your record. You don't have to be convicted. You don't have to go to trial. You don't have. You just know that everyone's GonNa. Your arrested and that's inherently unfair and so the legislature is taking a look at that taking a look at what other you know misdemeanor crimes that they can remove from your record. They're doing this also mind you at the same time the crime commission is studying what no longer needs to be a felony, right? So they're trying to develop is things. So what you're GONNA see is a dual effort here between what the Crime Commission's doing and then what automatic experiment parameters are going to be and you're GONNA see. My guests. By August of next year July of next year I should say. You're gonNA see maybe hopefully, the complete package of reform on that and that's going to be It's GonNa. Be Huge News Channel News out of Virginia. On. The issue of expunge Matt Politics here are actually really interesting and they're still developing. So the back story here is that earlier this year they debated this issue of expunged in other words if you have something on your record, if you were arrested for marijuana possession ten years ago that's on your record right now and that might imperil you a job or. A place to live. So you would it's in your interest to have a way to expunge that your record, and so they did not end end up taking action on expunge early this year mainly because there was a debate about doing it all at once and figuring out a sort of an out of this approach. But here's where that fell down. Something are more complicated than others So like expunging the marijuana possession that's actually pretty simple and. A lot of complicating factors there where it gets complicated is expunging a record of that are involved with a sex trafficking. So if you have some crime on your record, but as it turns out, you're a victim of sex trafficking and you WANNA get that expunged. Then in order to make that happen, you have to prove that you were a victim of sex trafficking, win the crime happen, and that actually is really complicated and takes a lot of INS and outs and they didn't have time to figure all that out during the session. So what they did was they said, well, let's Do it next year, you find this lot lot number one study in come back next year. So they ended up taking no action on experiment earlier this year. So they can study it and come back around with an approach that would solve all the issues. Meanwhile. There's this other debate to Thomas was just getting out with automatic. That's the house approach with Thomas was just talking about is what the House one Senate members don't want that, and once again, there's a house versus Senate the on the Senate side they want judges to have the discretion on whether or not experiment should take place and they don't like this automatic approach because they are concerned that there. Might be like a sex crime. For example, the might end up on the automatic expunge -ment list and they don't want it there right. So on the Senate side, they actually want the judges have discretion and they want to push back on this automatic thing, which is the approach that the members of the House and taken. So they're still all these issues that have yet to be resolved on how expunge. Work with all of these many crimes and whether or not you want to do them all at once or separate them out, and then also how does the expulsion happened? Is it automatic or do judges have authority to do that? Meanwhile you've got the study going on that has yet to be concluded. So actually I don't think we're going to see any action on expunged during the special session mainly as a process questions this study is still happening why do Something now when you're still studying it and you could come back around to it next year. So next year, we would see action on this likely, but I'm not convinced that the house model of automatic punishment is necessarily going to win the day. They're certainly going to be loud discussion about it but the experiment issuance very important but not something we're going to see during the special session. One other thing that's probably not changing is school relationships with school resource officers. There's a lot of pushback in minority communities that the relationship that black and Brown students have with SRO's is very different from the relationship that white students tend to have with SRO's, and that's true when it works, it works really well Fairfax county pushed back hard on removing SRO's from schools and said the legislature by the way, the the new base of power is no longer enrichment. It's no longer in other areas of the south it's now in northern. Virginia right. So if Fairfax County says, wait a second. We have great relationships in our school districts with our SRO's. You have other issues here that. You need to solve. Don't point the finger at SRO's right. So that is probably too heavy of a left. They've got a handle other issues so that you're not going to see that I don't think this year Thomas just mentioned something that's worth talking about, which is almost like a transition of power issue, which is northern Virginia. Is the center of power, but it is so fascinating that the speaker of the House is from Fairfax. County be Senate Majority Leader is from Fairfax County the House Majority Leader. From the Andrea, it is really interesting. One of the things that happened in the transition of power is beyond Hardee's changing hands is the regional migration of power north to northern Virginia. I saw a nice visualization veep looking at the chairs of the committees based on what part of the state from and how there's really now virtually none from South West Virginia because there's Democrats out there. I feel like I'm part weirdly part of that sort of generation my parents came. Here in the nineties, a knife lived in northern Virginia for for twenty years and I feel like we're kind of really been seeing it over the last decade of a lot of I don't know if it's one of immigrant families by Simon was a lot of Indians and Korean people so. There's there's a lot of that influx. I've been noticing at least living living up here. It's where the where the people are man. Thomas and Michael I. Want to ask one more time just to sort of a recap, a minute or so. What's going to happen? It was put on your prediction hat. What's GonNa come out of the special session on on budget on criminal justice reform. After two thousand, sixteen do people still make predictions? I wasn't really ended prediction game before two, thousand, sixteen. Now I know it's like fatal error. So I will say if you look at what's already happened on policing warm immediately right out of the game I mean like the First Committee meeting in the Senate they come up with this gigantic policing reform bill where it's important to remember the senators who were pushing. This thing had already worked out a compromise on choke holds with the police. They already worked out a compromise with search warrants with the sheriff's they already worked out a compromise on military equipment from all these law enforcement agency. So a lot of the work has already been done in terms of making the compromises lining up the. Votes and so I think what we're going to see play out is how much of that advance planning is successful that was it Mike Tyson who once said everybody has a plan until you get punched in the face right? So that's everybody's getting punched in the face right now in Richmond? So how much of their plan is successful in their own chamber but then of course, got to deal with the enemies down the hall and these days sexually the enemy dumb broad street 'cause they're in two separate locations on broad street. But coming back to one of our themes here a lot of what we're going to see is this conflict between the House and the Senate on their approach and again. With the budget issues that they've got a very different approach to how to do a lot of this criminal justice reform stuff. A lot of times what you find is on the Senate side, they went to change the policy first and worry about paying for it. Later, sentencing reforms really good example of this, the senators want to change the policy and say, well, if you have a jury trial, you can get a judge to give you a sentence that's the policy change that actually is probably going to end up costing a lot more money that they're not really concerned about because they also think in the long run fewer people be in jails, and so you might actually end up saving money. The House. They want the crime commission the come up with the estimate and they want a nickel and dime this thing and so this is another conflict that you're gonNA see between House Democrats and Senate Democrats is not just the policy changes but also Wendy, you pay for the policy changes. So that's the rather a more prediction, but it would be, yes criminal justice reform will happen although the extent of it has yet to be worked out because of the House Senate disagreements. But then also how much money is available these are all moving targets because they gotta cut two billion dollars while also adding new stuff. So how all that shakes out I? Guess we'll have to listen to bolden and. Thanks for the Plug Thomas what do you think what's going to happen? I think that a Lotta people are gonNA walk away disappointed from the session. It's not GONNA be the session everybody hoped it's going to be i. don't see the house tax kindly to getting stymied for a week right and a Lotta ways you have the Senate Republicans making that happen in in conjunction with the House Republicans so that the Senate can get its legislative agenda through right so that's a pretty dirty trick and a lot of ways. So just to let me jump in just to clarify the state Republican lawmakers are intentionally Slowing things down the house so that the Senate can move more moderate versions of these bills through in order to own the framing right and then, and then that's the that's the start right and so the risk of course is that nobody's happy everything dies I don't think it's going to be quite that extreme I think you're GonNa get a bunch of Maya reforms that do relieve some of the immediate pressure. I think you're probably GONNA. Have most of the budget light switches back on since you do have growth, but the risk is at the bottom drops out of the stock market. Once again, do we have to come back and change everything again or can't wait till January to be determined? So I don't know like is this session going to have anything conclusive maybe but honestly, I think preferably not this is a crossover episode. So let me turn the tables on you. And asked you to put on your prediction ads for the special session. What do you think what's going to happen? I predict that I will be disappointed like. I have no doubt. With. Little. That's usually a great project. Happens with the General Assembly, you're likely to be disappointed Nathan work. Yeah I think I echo what Thomas said in a lot of ways I. think there's always a lot of big ideas floated at the start of these things and then a Lotta Times, they get tempered and water down I. Know That's how the sausage is made. There's a lot of pieces that go into the sausage. You don't really want to see it but at the same time a definitely have you know personal concerns that for example, if nobody is opposing this consensus thing you've built is going far enough to protect Virginia residents who have not been kept safe over the. Years is it really ensuring the public safety of people in the Commonwealth and so yeah I think like a lot of things we'll probably end up with a lot of sort of middle of the road stuff here in Virginia You know I've I've been here about ten years now and as I observe Virginia politics, it seems like the state almost never wants to be the first to do anything. But thankfully, at least since Loving v Virginia, we're not the last either. So you know somewhere in the middle of the pack bunch of moderate stuff is what seems likely I think We see a lot of the bipartisanship when you talk about the compromise bill that we're seeing and always worries me is that it's is the places where we have this bipartisanship between mostly the kind of money mortgage served to folks on both sides of the party spectrum. We see that it's usually not great for the more progressive working class side he wanna see some actual big real change. Well. 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Model Talk: Why Democrats' Chances Of Winning The Senate Have Increased
"They tell me something funny. We need a good coping. Can't be spontaneously funny like that I'm not a comedian we got. That's that's a cold open. We'd actually like. Hello and welcome to the fivethirtyeight politics podcast I'm Galen Droop. Nate silver and this is in DHS model. All right. I don't know if we got it but we gave the effort. It's a rainy morning. We're recording this nothing but darkness on the horizon. So you know maybe a little bit lacklustre relative to some previous model talk intros. Why was going to say we have eighteen days until election day? How're you doing? It sounds like not great don't. Okay. It's like Zina's paradox each day each step is like twice as long or something. Yeah I know there's been. On the social media and stuff like a little bit of re litigation of two, thousand, sixteen always a fun topic. You love to see it do feel like the pressure is on this time around in a way that any different because people had doubts about the forecast in two thousand sixteen whether legitimate or illegitimate. I think and you can go ahead and. Listen like Zach Lowe podcasts like right like the aggregate. There's so if you're an aggregate I think fivethirtyeight not on the we have been blamed I think we should have gotten a lot of credit for two thousand sixteen for being prescient and for giving trump a pretty good shot when other people didn't we'll right. But anybody who listens to this podcast knows that. So I guess I'm curious. Does the pressure feel any different this time around because whether or not? Those criticisms are legitimate. We've said they aren't, but because of the popular perception of forecasting and polling and things like that I mean it's it's all a stupid all these models I mean they used to be bigger differences. Now, all these models have biden it about the same number now at eighty seven percent economists is ninety one percent. One eight percent eighty, four percent they're all saying, okay, look. We're now at the point where you can go back and examine how big is this lead how off would have to be for trump to win right and we're just handicapping services. That's the correct number that trump is giving the rain somewhere the range of five percent to twenty percent depending on different assumptions given how far behind he is in the polls and given that we have two and a half weeks to go and accounting for the fact that Ariza correlated in different states and. Like we are setting those odds correctly we did not determine if we're in the one in eight world where he wins the one in eight or one and seven chance that's not up to us, it's up to voters. It's up to the candidates up to the world right up to the pollsters. I guess to some extent but we're setting proper odds and in a world where people are more rational than I don't really care if the one eight comes up or the Senate comes up now realistically will I be of well the whole polling we`ll Probably, but I, know. because. Like I can't do anything about it, and all I can do is give you an honest answer and give you the best forecasts that I can. So I can't do anything about it. I'd much rather be on the side where eighty seven percent of the time we'll look at least somewhat smart instead of seventy percent giving that we get on even if like we have a narrow favourite who loses I'd much rather that some heavier favorite but beyond that, I can't do anything about it. All right. You heard it here first folks according to five thirty, eight, nate silver has exactly zero to give if you don't like our. I mean, what can I could I do? We spend so much time with these models thinking carefully about different sources of uncertainty and making conservative choices. We think not unduly conservative but understanding that usually when you're back testing a model you tend to make. Choices. So we kind of making delivered choices than we air on the conservative side. Right Donald Trump is ten and a half points behind in national polls probably seven seven and a half points behind the tipping point states. Biden's fifty two or three percent of the vote they're not around decided voters left twenty million people have already voted as the time we were recording this right. The race has been pretty stable. Trump is trying to same lines that he has for the whole campaign that have him ten points down. Right there's a pandemic it's killed how many people now wanted Fifteen thousand plots and it's getting worse again in the US were not going on a limb out on a limb. But with a model that says, Biden is the heavy favorite to me that trump's still has a one in seven or a one in eight chance or whatever is actually kind of high given. All things are going wrong for him. All right. So I think it's fair to say that how the public views are work to some out of our control. At this point, we try to be really diligent. We try to show our work and explain where we're coming. From and we hope that people appreciate that. But let's check in on specifically where our forecast stand for the Presidency Senate House Etcetera, and then we'll get into some more specific questions. So as of the time of this recording, which is Friday morning as you already mentioned, Joe Biden has an eighty seven percent chance of winning Democrats have a seventy-three percent chance of winning the Senate and ninety six percent chance of keeping the house, and I also looked this up before we recorded it's not listed on the forecast but Democrats have a combined seventy percent chance of winning all three. So, there's a slim chance that Democrats would win the Senate but not the presidency, but in large part that trifecta hinges on the Senate or vice versa. So let's start by talking about the Senate which has the most uncertainty involved in the forecast at this point and Democrats chances of winning that chamber have gone up by about ten percentage points in the past ten days and they've gone up from about fifty eight percent when we launched. So what's responsible for the changes that we're seeing it in the Senate? So one thing to keep in mind with all these forecasts is that. Democrats are ahead and so if time runs off the clock, the situation stays as it was before and they gained ground because there's less time for Republicans. To have something shift that brings the race back toward them. Yeah. With the Senate, it's just a lot of like drip drip drip of individual polls and individual states tend to be fairly good for Democrats. There's been a bunch of pulling in north. Carolina. That tends to show cal Cunningham, the Democrats still ahead despite sexting accusations. Gideon in Maine Democrat is up to sixty three percent to win kind of a little bit out of the Tossup Zone until leaned democratic in Maine in Georgia quite a bit of polling they're in both those races remember there's a special election race in Georgia that has multiple candidates on the ballot for both parties. What's happened there is that you have to Republicans Kelly, loftier, and Collins who are kind of trying to outflank another and be kind of crazy far right I mean Kelly. Waffler like was endorsed by Cunanan support the other day and proudly Brag about it whereas when Democrat Raphael warnock has locked up almost all the. Democratic vote. So that's all of a sudden very competitive race when we play out both the primary and the runoff yeah I'll say, George, we did have several listeners send US questions about that folks noticed that in one day. Republicans went from seventy two percent chance of holding that seat in the special election to a fifty one percent chance. was there something specific that happened on that one day? So it is pretty unusual if you track are models for us to have that sharpest shift, the recent happened there is that you have all these pollsters that have been conducting polls of Georgia, but they haven't been testing potential runoff matchups. Quinnipiac finally tested warnock versus lafler and Collins one and they had worn off the Democrat way ahead. So finally, getting a runoff polls basically were flying blind. May the model more competent that Democrats potentially win a runoff there, and since that race is very very likely to go to a runoff than that was important to the model when considering the likelihood of the Democrat or Republican winning that runoff election. In Georgia, it's going to happen in January and we're already getting to know the results of the election. So does that change the probabilities at all once that happens there are different electorate say in a special election runoff. November. So currently, the Democrats have an edge in the generic ballot there six points ahead. That's kind of the national environment is Pro Democratic for racist Congress by six points I'm believe the model assumes that for the runoff then it goes back to a neutral environment earliest and uncertain environment. So it does assume that things are worse for Democrats, and they would be if you had that run immediately. So it's like warlock is ahead in the polls and the runoff. Our models prior is probably the Republicans would win the runoff and it's balancing those two kind of coming up with fifty fifty in Georgia now. All right. So we were focusing in on the Senate. We've talked about North Carolina and Georgia. Are we seeing any other? Significant polls coming in giving us a better picture of how the races are playing out and maybe starting with Alaska with plenty of people have asked about and has become somewhat of a meme on twitter. What's the expression don't sleep? Which I think that election twitter has been like crowdfunding even polls of Alaska I don't know what exactly is so exciting about last I. Am sure that it's lovely and obviously it's the largest state in the union. So there's lots to love but. What do we know about the actual Senate race? There were presidential not matter. So we will moore after we finish according to Say New York Times CNN college upshot poll will be available in Alaska. We don't have the inside scoop. Alien Science could ask but. There hasn't been a lot of high quality pulling Alaskan number one, the polling Alaska's always kind of mess. UPS and partisan polling suggesting that the race is very close Senate race there a cure. See what that you're at times poll shows, but you have to remember in two thousand eight. A similar year for the top of the ticket presidentially Democrat Mark Baggage One Senate race in Alaska inner minds just a little bit of this year outgrowths him credit candidate in the polls kind of tied. Now, those mostly partisan polls right kind of tied. Now, maybe a couple of points behind Dan Sullivan. Incumbent non-person Pub Alaska had Sullivan up four, and if the person polls tie than that also would translate into roughly Sullivan plus four. Alaska's there's a lot of uncertainty, and so it's a race to watch with about a twenty five percent chance of winning pre upshot, Sienna poll and the presidency in Alaska. For that matter I mean Biden is doing well relative speaking in a lot of these very northern states. MINNESOTA. So we also have Biden with about a twenty five percent chance of winning the presidency in Alaska. So to follow up, we're GONNA get to more or less than or questions later but we did get a lesson or question on this and it's from Dave. He says Perry wrote an article on the Senate races in Montana, Kansas and Alaska. Right now, the model is showing DEM's at thirty two, percent, twenty, six percent and twenty three percent chance of winning those states taken together. That's a sixty one percent chance dams when at least one of those three Senate seats is this the Proper way to interpret the model or should we assume they are correlated? No because they are correlated not correlated as much as presidential states are Senate races can operate somewhat independently from one another, but they are correlated for sure if you look very carefully at like our Senate Histogram, the graph is a little asymmetric meaning. There is a tale where the polls underestimate Democrats. They win all these lean Republican races, right as well as all the tossups and then all of a sudden they're fifty five or something Democratic senators, right so republicans, do need to worry about that but at the same time. It everything holds and Democrats lose all those lesnar slash tossup races. I mean Republicans have a thirty percent chance of twenty percent of keeping the Senate it's not nothing. Yeah. All right. So I do want to talk about the presidency, but are there any other Senate polls that have caught your eye since Monday before we move on not really GonNa think about Senate races to is at the polling tends to be pretty stable and our model is pretty conservative about. Shifting those races around you know you had a poll, for example in Michigan that showed the Republican John James only one point behind from a but then you've had other polls like, gosh is that race a tossup now? But since you've had the roller polls showing Gary Peters Democratic, incumbent head by. Six to nine points I should say so like people don't change their minds in these Senate races much as like for the presidency and they don't shave the presidency much either. But YOU WANNA take a pretty long term look at the polls not expect to be some type of sharp turning points necessarily. So. When it comes to the presidency last week on model talk, you said that the state polls didn't quite reflect the ten to eleven point race that we were seeing in national polls is that still the case or have we seen staples catch up to the national polling since then? A little bit I'd say, maybe there's a points worth a gap right where it's more like nine or ten points. If you extrapolate from St poll versus tenure eleven points in national polls, I think some of the higher quality state polls maybe are more in line with the larger leaves for by. There's a lot of mediocre republican-leaning Robo polls Trafalgar Cetera like kind of get thrown in the averages right and they tend to sometimes collectively knocked biden down by. PFAFF pointer point or something if there are several of them any given time. I. Don't know but also ten or eleven points is pretty Gargantuan lead at a very big win. So. There's some may be pryor by what you'd be skeptical that he's really hit by ten or eleven points. Wow. That's big. Right. But clearly trump's not increased shape exactly. Do we have any better sense at this point of what's responsible for this polling high for Biden last week we had so many things were happening at once it's hard to disentangle them I guess we're a week out from than now or should we expect that the debate is not having any impact that covid nineteen is still having any impact. Of course, Cova nineteen pandemic is, but I mean his personal diagnosis, I mean outside the range where you college abate balanced debates two and a half weeks in the past now right. So you think that if Biden has realized gains from the debate maybe now they're semi permanent especially since Biden's number has come up more than trump says, come down had some undecideds who have now locked in or decided upon Biden with code. It's a little harder to know if the president being out of the hospital will help him. Doesn't seem like it's tightening based on that but that's a little bit more uncertain. There are a couple of things number. One is at Joe Biden has a pretty big edge in advertising especially in swing states, and we think advertising's a little overrated in general if trump is really kind of running out of money then maybe that helps put some wind in Biden sales and adds so numbers and keeps that debate bounce from receiving to the mean. Also, we have a lot of people already voted how Else does handle. That is an interesting question. It's possible that pollsters some people who were deemed to be unlikely voters now have voted and when you say you've already voted you count as a likely voter who would have been excluded otherwise. So the early voting could have some effects on the polls where the pollsters are handling that correctly or not. I am not one to say or when does research it enough to know You know. But those are some alternative theories for why Biden's kind of help us lead. You wrote about this this week and it's something that some of our listeners noted as well, which is that for the first time on our winding path towards an electoral college victory. Snake on the forecast Georgia shaded blue for the first time which. is now likely to be won. By Biden, it's still essentially a toss up but that for the first time in the forecast, the. Democrat. Biden slightly slightly ahead of trump there maybe the specific question here we get from Joseph which is surprising as a that Georgia now seems likelier to go blue than Ohio I don't know I mean we have the kind of the same right we're both like close to fifty fifty as it gets I think I would bet on. Ohio if I had to pick between one of those going to buy, it's a bit more consistent with his strength elsewhere in the Midwest, there are barriers to vote in Georgia. They're might actually does try to kind of account for but. Clinton only lost Georgia by five points in twenty sixteen. If you only lose by five and election where you won the popular up by two and then by the win by ten than you might expect your to shift enough for by to win it by a couple of points. So it's not implausible by any means. Church is also pretty inelastic state. He doesn't actually swing around that much in part because you have like a very solid base of Republican conservative. Evangelical. White voters you the very solid democratic base of black voters plus Atlanta area multicultural younger voters but the GOP based just slightly larger but they're probably are enough swing voters in the Atlanta suburbs to hand Democrats. Narrow Victories if Democrats are at the top of the range with those voters. So it's plausible and saying that trump won Ohio by eight points in two thousand and sixteen. So actually trump did better in Ohio than he did in Georgia maybe these are two good states to watch in terms of how Biden and trump are performing in your perhaps standard rustbelt versus standard sunbelt state on election day and it also worth noting that Democrats don't actually have to win either Georgia or Ohio to win the presidency and all right. They do not have to win either state. No, and it's pretty unlikely that either state would be the tipping point you have to get in some weird maps. If Biden loses. Nevada and Arizona and Florida and North Carolina. then. You have some apps were by a with need Ohio is part of strengthening West to overcome losing Nevada and other stuff like that and similar like if Biden decimated the midwest and lost Michigan and Wisconsin and Pennsylvania, and Minnesota, then you could make up for that if you one Florida and Georgia and North Carolina. So we're talking about some pretty far fetched possibilities keep in mind that like you know to some extent now, if trump is down to thirteen, whatever percent chance of winning. Than than weird things would have to happen for trump to win. You would have to see some big shifts or for the polls to be we offer trump to win, and if there are chefs or there's a pulling error, it may not be uniform and maybe that in certain states, something happens to bides numbers although would say by the way like probably the state, it's like the worst affected by code right now or one of the states, Wisconsin, which is not good timing for the president. Yeah, which was actually a lesson. No question that we got. So let's dig into a bunch of our listener questions. We got a question from Sam and how the recent rises in Corona virus cases affected the models Cova adjustments I, know that there are not big adjustments Kovin forecast, but to what extent are there how they changed anything, and then also are we seeing in the polling? I. Guess if it's not in the forecast. So the models doing some work in the background to try to figure out. If, you put an index of covid severity in regression analysis does it give you additional power to explain what the polling says, but do we see polling chefs in the immediate aftermath of a hotspot in a particular state? I have not looked at that detail I mean the best example might be something like Florida where Biden was polling very well in June in the midst of covid peak and the race tightened a bit after their peak declined. So there, there's probably some anecdotal evidence for talking maybe a point or something I mean look I would say. The voters are not inclined to vote for president trump as a result of his Kobe handling. There's GonNa be a lot of. Conversations about rising case counts about lockdowns. We learned this morning that it's very unlikely that a major US company will seek to get FDA approval for emergency use before the election Pfizer said today, we're GonNa wait until mid-november other companies have said that to or their trials are buying scheduler on pause temporarily. Anyway. So the fact that like we're not in an EB in cases heading into, November third is not for the president and it was saying we actually have the numbers still were aggregating all of the polling on approval of President, trump's response to the coronavirus crisis and he's out about negative eighteen net. Approval, right now I think the worst he got was negative twenty. The best he got was negative sixteen over the past several months. So across the board Americans are happy. The next question we got is originally from a lot of people and is also something that the media has been trying to explain recently, the question is what's behind the GOP's recent new voter registration advantage and what should we make of it for the election? I think there are a few things. One is that the GOP has been doing more in person voter registration efforts, door knocking and whatnot that Democrats had not done until recently. Too is that Democrats have headed primary. So they registered voters late last year or earlier this year three is that a lot of younger voters tend not to want to affiliate themselves with the Party. So the registers independence, but they probably profile as likely Democratic voters they might be younger Hispanics for example, might tend to registered independent they probably will not vote for trump at least. Most of the moment. So it's not clear that this gop advantage in party ID necessarily translates to one to one into actually having more trump voters especially because we know that the pool of independent voters by winning among independence by like twenty points in some polls to really big edge and the whole shy trump voter theory that polls are I mean there are various versions that are. More less sophisticated but one version is that polls under sample Republicans. And, therefore, they underestimate trump. In fact, a lot of quality polls show Republicans in a good position in party identification where they're almost tied with Democrats or have closed the gap and despite that trump is losing by ten points because binds winning independence by twenty points. So that really tells it Persuasion Story Elsa when you ask people who vote for in two thousand, sixteen, the upshot holes do this they will find people that say I voted for. In Twenty Sixteen this year I'm voting for Joe by you're not a trump voter if you say I voted for trump tweets team but not this year or to say about Gary Johnson and two thousand, sixteen voting for binding this year her Jill Stein even. So there's all types of evidence that like Biden is about persuasion and not turn out which to me is actually like A bit more robust to avoid polling error because turnout can be hard to estimate you know what I mean. But if you have evidence of votes, Switzer's then that's usually pretty solid. Our next question is more of a process question and it is is new polling data manually input into the model or does the system automatically poll data released. There are a handful of scrapers for samples, but generally speaking we we enter stuff in manually which shot to our colleagues who do a hell of a job. It's a lot of work in you know we're kind of now the de facto polling collector for the whole industry, and we try to be the most comprehensive of anybody. You know if you're curious, it currently takes about ten minutes to run forty thousand simulations of the presidential model and about seventeen minutes to run forty thousand simulations in the midterm model or the congressional model commercial actually is more code is more complicated does more things. So. When you see a new poll pop up in our list of polls at one pm say then you'd expect it about one ten or one fifteen the presidential model would update and then went fifteen or one twenty, the congressional model would update. Next question while early voting is an indicator of final results will late breaking. Like a Komi letter have less impact than they would in a normal pandemic voting environment because so many voters are getting baked in early I mean a bit right. The question is how much because usually people who early are weighted toward people who are pretty firm partisans in have kind of decide who they're gonNA vote on. So let's say that forty percent of people have already voted than big event happens that back trump would that mean only has sixty percent of the impact I'd say probably not but maybe would only have eighty percent as much impact and so it does provide. Some installation to bite. There is no world in which it's good for trump that biden is banking much votes wins ahead ten points. There's world which that's good for trump unless there's some huge rejection rate among these ballots, it may not be that bad for him though but you know I mean they come your letter I mean maybe because that was trump went by such a narrow margin swing states. Maybe, call me letter in twenty twenty. If that comes into play when four people voted maybe a third of the overall turnout, right? Maybe they'll be just enough to have saved Clinton in two thousand sixteen maybe. Katie asks you've mentioned numerous times that the model assumes tightening in the polls. When does that assumption go away and the model just uses the polls? Is that only on election day or someday prior to that? I think it's actually the day before the election the economic weight goes to zero. Let me look for people kind of where we have this. Now it's early ninety one percent poles and nine percent prior. So the prior doesn't play a huge role, but it does a little bit so it means that. As of the recording, we have biden projected to win by. Eight point three points. So note that that assumes some tightening without the prior he had by nine point one point. So why nine point one? And not ten and a half or whatever. He is a national polls while again naked back to that St Paul's national poll gap. Our forecast of the popular vote is mostly based on state polls and they're more consistent with like a nine and a half point Biden lead. We ought question from aerial who says, what are the percentage point ranges us for the different levels of certainty on the website and aerials referring to the favorite slightly favored clearly favored demarcation that we assigned to certain percent chances actually have the list in front of me so I can clarify that for aerial. So from fifty to fifty percent chance, we say it's a toss up from fifty five to sixty nine say slightly favored from seventy to eighty nine percent chance we say favored. So that's where we are. Right. Now, for Joe Biden for clearly favored the next indication that we have not actually gotten to, yet it's ninety percent to ninety, seven percent and the ninety eight or above is very likely to win the election. So do you think we're going to get to either clearly favored or very likely to win the election in the next two and a half weeks? I. Mean. So Biden will keep gaining if the polls hold steady in the percentage terms, right? Because it means less time for trump to make up ground. Yeah, I don't know I mean in theory and a well calibrated forecast than the percentage that you haven't any given day is also the best prediction of the percentage that you have. The next day. So in theory would predict that bind will say eighty seven percent because the race would tighten. A little bit. You know in practice I don't know mean in practice we get the questions of what could trump do to help sultana comeback again that I, get back like. Ten and a half points is such a big lead relative to even wear. This campaign has been even relative to two thousand eight with Obama won by seven, ten f such a big lead that like I don't know if that's easy to sustain although who knows you know maybe trump is in a proverbial downward spiral no plausible to but the model we go with our forecast says that. BINDS GONNA win the popular vote by eight and a half points not ten and a half points. So it does kind of seem the race would tighten a bit. We've got this question a couple times, and it's which party is favored to control the most state delegations in the house were asking this question because if there's a tie in the electoral college, it goes to the. House and then the votes are cast according to state delegation majority not based on Individual House members. So essentially, the question is are Democrats or Republicans controlling six plus state delegations, and I should say there is a less than one percent chance of a tie in the electoral college according to our forecast right now. But do we have an answer to this question regardless eight? We do so. We currently show a twenty five percent chance that Democrats control the must allegations. A twenty percent chance of Republicans control the most allegations. Any fifty percents chance at the majority anyone has twenty six. It's actually gone up for Democrats. So right now I think Democrats Rogan's twenty-six right. So Democrats have to win back some delegations. The easiest way to do that would be to win the Senate Races House. Races in Alaska or Montana which are competitive and with his just one seat. So. Democrats have gained in this calculation it looks like a bit. But keep in mind that like this is conditional in a world where purposing really bad night and lose the popular vote by eight or nine points right and whatnot if the race titans. which is a scenario under which the delegations becomes relevant right? If you have an electoral college deadlock. And you the House to break a tie or interpret competing slates of electors. Then you have vote by delegations. If, we tied it probably means we've ended up having much Republican night. Than we expected going in. So conditional this near with delegations matter that Republicans would probably still have an edge, but you know but it's a reason to watch Alaska and Montana and if you go to download the data if you go to the House national top lines file, it now contains data on the projected delegations per party. All right. We just got a couple more questions that we got again hundreds of listener questions. So thanks to everyone who sent them in we try to get to. As many as possible, a lot of these have longer answers. The question is what impact does mean adopting ranked choice voting have on the model both for the presidency and for Congress. So it doesn't much effect. A lot of polls main will use a version where they kind of simulate the ranked choice themselves or just ask people who they vote for in a two way race. So we use that version of questions in Maine, where testing basically to a matchup instead of with third parties included. We have some code if you had a case where like it was actually unclear who the top two candidates would be like an independent it was a true three way race, right? We have some code to handle those things, but it's very, very unlikely that you're going to have a third party actually in the top two in any of the main races. So therefore, we basically just use kind of head to head polls a main to simulate the effect of a reallocation of votes. All right. Sam Asks have you ever considered trying to model how soon we will know the winner of the election. There are so many variables in that question that I can't even imagine trying to begin forecasting it. We thought about you know there are certain states area thought to be kind of quick counting states. You know Florida Arizona North Carolina Right. We thought about like can you designate a set of quick counting states and we might add something on that? I'm not sure they're gonNA quite as many bright lines the -SSARILY BETWEEN FAST and slow states people would want but we're thinking about trying to have versions of that calculation. All right. Last question bonus question. Do you have a drink of choice for getting through election? Through election-night itself, well, I have to work. So I can't be drinking the booze that I would want why feel like it's getting through election night it's like coffee or read bowl getting to sleep on election night. It's like whiskey vodka are you a beer guy wind guy or a liquor guy getting to sleep after a wild election night? Usually, a beer debit card election I probably whiskey or something. Yeah. All right that's a good note to end on. 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NPR News: 01-15-2020 7PM ET
"Live from NPR news in Washington. I'm Jack Speer. The House of Representatives has formerly delivered its articles of impeachment pitchman. After weeks of wrangling with the Senate House Speaker Nancy Pelosi also name seven managers to lead the prosecution team during the Senate trial. NPR's Tim Mack reports ports in symbolic fashion. The managers walked the articles from the House to the Senate in a ceremony. Pelosi signed the articles of impeachment with the large number of pens so that she could gift gift pens to committee chairs as a keepsake. Pelosi said that the impeachment was necessary to prevent future presidential misconduct. The seven impeachment managers led by the House clerk then formally formerly delivered the documents to the Senate. The managers will read allow the impeachment articles before the Senate Thursday at noon other trial procedures including the swearing in of senators. And the chief justice of the Supreme Court will also Kerr Thursday. The trial is set to begin in earnest on Tuesday after the holiday weekend to Mac. NPR News Washington the US and China Today signed off on phase. One of a trade deal ended increasing sales of us. Goods and services to China and requiring China to do a better job of or protecting the intellectual property of companies operating in the Chinese market. A part agreement is party ceasefire and what has been out eighteen month. Long bilateral dispute between the the world's two largest economies the would call for the purchase of at least an additional two hundred billion. US goods and services over two years by China US would also great suspender under reduce some tariffs against Chinese goods the former US ambassador to Ukraine whom president trump ousted is calling for an investigation into whether she was under surveillance surveillance. That's after house. Investigators released new documents more mentors. Michelle Kellerman the latest document. Dump includes text messages between left Parnis and indicted associated associated with trump's private lawyer and a man named Robert Hyde trump supporter running for congress hide reports on the movements of then Ambassador Maria Vich pointing announced in one message that she's talked to three people. Her phone is off. Computer is off. Yuval Nevada's lawyer tells. NPR that the notion that American citizens ends and others were monitoring the ambassadors movement is quote disturbing. The statement goes on to say we trust at the appropriate authorities will conduct an investigation instigation to determine what happened Michelle Kellerman. NPR News Washington within thirteen hundred temporary employees General Motors plants mostly in the Midwest and the South are looking at moving into full time jobs by the end of March. That's according to a statement from the company today which says workers at four-team GM facilities in Michigan in Indiana New York Tennessee Missouri. Kansas and Kentucky. We starting in higher wages between twenty one and twenty four dollars an hour depending on your stocks edge higher this afternoon afternoon trading on Wall Street the Dow closing above twenty nine thousand for the first time. Ever up ninety points today you're listening to NPR. A lawsuit filed by prosecutors in the Virgin Islands. Now Contends Multimillionaire Sex Offender Jeffrey Epstein used to private islands in the US territory to engaging in nearly two decades long conspiracy to traffic and abuse girls lawsuit claims at one point Epstein associates organized a search party to catch a fifteen year. Old Girl Roll. Tried to swim away and kept her passport. In order to keep her captive lawsuit seeks hundreds of millions of dollars from epsteins state in the Virgin Islands Epstein hanged himself while while in New York jail cell awaiting trial in federal sex trafficking and conspiracy charges more than a thousand arts organizations around. The country will get a budget boost this year from the national the endowment for the arts is NPR's will be explained the Federal Agency announced today. The recipients of grants totalling almost thirty million dollars recipients range from contemporary classical chamber group Northville Michigan to emerging fashion designers includes for people with disabilities other recipients include an arts residency program. Mm for military veterans and various events marking the centennial of the nineteenth amendment. Gave women the right to vote. Most GRAENTIZ are medium or smaller groups including the Opera Company in Anchorage Alaska getting money to fund a new production about painter Frida Kahlo while. President trump proposed eliminating any is is funding entirely in his most recent budget Congress voted to increase it by nearly five percent net libby. NPR news pseudo. Futures prices closed lows lower today. Oil Down Forty two cents a barrel to end the session at fifty seven to eighty one a barrel I'm Jack Speer N._p._R.. News in Washington.
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The Chief Justice Shall Preside
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Germany Dallas is Texas California wondering what role Chief Justice Roberts will play as the presiding judge. Should there be an impeachment trial. How is chief justice? Roberts likely to react if the senators are the jurors and chief justice. John Roberts presided over the trial. Why do they get to affect the process if they're just the jurors and why doesn't John Robert Get to define what the profit at this? What kind of influence or constitutional rate with a chief justice have over over McConnell and the rest of the Senate Republicans power over the outcome? These are all great questions. Supreme Court itself is defined by tradition by by power by a bit of mystery so naturally the court's role in a presidential impeachment trial is compelling today article to what you need to know about the role of the chief justice in a Senate impeachment trial beat Williams is the the NBC News Justice correspondent. He's helped us answer some listener questions in a past episode. But he's making his true official debut as a guest here on article two today Pete. Welcome to the show my pleasure. So let's start with the basics on this the chief justice of the Supreme Court the Chief Justice will have a role in the Senate impeachment trial trial. What is that role supposed to be this? PODCAST is article two and it's article one of the Constitution that says when a president is put on trial Al for impeachment the Chief Justice Shell preside so he has no choice and John Roberts would be the third to have that responsibility salmon chase. Did it in eighteen sixty gate at the trial of Andrew. Johnson and William Rehnquist was chief justice in Nineteen Ninety nine during the Bill Clinton impeachment trial so the term presiding I is it understood stood. What officially that means? The chief justice should be doing shouldn't be doing are their official responsibilities. Or is there some Artists license here. Well he gets to sit up at the desk in front of the room where the presiding officer of the Senate sits he calls it to order. He says when it can a journey calls for breaks but I think the way to think of it is more like master of ceremonies than trial judge. So you mentioned William Rehnquist presiding over the Clinton impeachment trial around the same time twenty one years. Were you around covering that. I was I- clever the The whole run up to the Clinton impeachment the house proceedings and then the trial in the the Senate where he was acquitted. So you remember this. What was the expectation about? What Rehnquist was going to do there? Well I think the expectation was not very clear because it had been so long since we'd had an impeachment trial in the Senate and a lot of things have changed since then including television coverage so that was one huge difference. Obviously there wasn't much television coverage in eighteen sixty eight. He was a little bit more prepared for it than you might expect because he had actually written a book about the impeachment of Andrew Johnson so he just happened to have done a lot of homework on it. Pursuant to the provisions of Senate resolution sixteen the managers for the House of Representatives have twenty four hours hours to make presentation of their case. The Senate will now here you. The presiding officer recognizes Mr Manager Hide to begin the presentation the case for the House of Representatives. Now at the end of the day. Of course it turns out. He didn't really have to do very much. Because the role is so limited you hear about John. Roberts appointed by a Republican President George W Bush and in sometimes given the way politics works. These days you'll get you know some voices perhaps on the left saying well that what sort of color potentially how he would handle the role Rehnquist back in ninety nine originally appointed to the bench by Richard Nixon than by Reagan to be chief justice. The two Republican presidents promoting him along was there. Any concern about partisan loyalties or any of that affecting how he would handle it back then no no. I don't think so and you know remember that first of all no chief. Justice wants this responsibility. They have it. They're stuck with it in the constitution. But it's not anything thing they look forward to or relish but Rehnquist Well let me put it this way. I think when it was all over everybody thought that Rehnquist was very fair but part of that is because because they just don't have much responsibility over how things actually unfold once. The trial starts the reason. I say they're more like a master of ceremonies. MOONEY's than a judge. Is this in a trial. The jurors decide the facts and the judge decides the law so as the trial goes along their objections about whether evidence can be introduced whether it's relevant whether the question is bringing up hearsay and that kind of thing and those are all decisions made by a judge now the rules. Let's say that the chief justice WHO's presiding can make those calls but they also say that that can immediately be put to a vote by the Senate so if any any senator doesn't like what the chief justice says he can immediately refer it to the Senate for a vote or they can just vote on their own. There's no debate the rule. Say if somebody objects there's an immediate vote so he doesn't really have the final say and they all know that so for that reason they don't sit there in an imperious way. That judges often often do in trials. They are well aware of their limitations. That's interesting so to make the analogy to the kind of trial. Were all kind of familiar with a traditional criminal trial. Maybe something we see on law and order or something. This would be like if the judge in a traditional trial said. Hey that evidence can't be heard the jury then voted Oded. We want to hear it. And then you'd have to have the evidence exactly right And in that sense that brings up the only real definitive thing. They think that William Rehnquist did during the entire impeachment trial for Bill Clinton. There was an objection because one of the house managers. That's what they call the prosecutors from the house who come over to present the case against against the president one of the house managers kept referring to senators as jurors. We are you the distinguished jurors in this case not to be fooled and there was an objection to that MR chief justice I object to the use and continued use of the word jurors when referring to the Senate sitting as Trier's trial on the piece of the president of the United States then Rehnquist ruled. Yes yes that's not exactly right. There are a lot more than jurors so stop calling them jerks the chair of the view that the senator from Iowa's objection is well taken that the core the Senate is not simply a jury court in this case and therefore council should refrain from referring to senators jurors thank ports rich Roy that was about the only definitive ruling he made during the entire trial. One of the things I remember I I still see come up Now in descriptions of that time he wore a special robe. Rehnquist Idiot Gold stripes gold on the road for the occasion. He did well not for the occasion. He had started doing that. Addis Chief Justice he was he was somewhat a rehnquist had his quirky side and he was a huge fan of Gilbert and Sullivan and he had just seen one day. The Gilbert and Sullivan Operetta Iolanda. The law is the true embodiment of everything. That's excellent uh-huh and heads new kind of floor and I might add money in the long. And there's a character in a WHO has a judicial function who wears a robe with gold stripes and he thought boy I sure liked the look though so he asked the Supreme Court seamstress two gold stripes on his robe and one day he showed up in the Supreme Court to the astonishment of all the bus and his fellow justices that he had those gold stripes so he had already been wearing does when he showed up in the Senate but that was As they say on the Law Sui Generis unique only to him. John Roberts does not wear those stripes so you won't be seeing them. They're not part of the normal chief. Justices drag. I'm glad I asked the question because I always thought that was something he had dusted off. Just medication did not realize that was a especially impeachment robe. No you mentioned it to that. This is a responsibility. Perhaps a chief justice wouldn't it was at the case with Rehnquist. Was this something that he felt. It was kind of forced upon him in a role he did not want to play a totally This is a duty the undoubtedly don't want but can't avoid and part of the problem. Is You know number one. It's sort of ceremonial. They're kind of a bump on a log but secondly they have a day job and you know this will happen. The Senate trial will happen. Happened likely while the Supreme Court is in pretty busy time of the year hearing cases and for that reason by the way the Senate rules say that the impeachment richemont preceding should begin each day at noon. Now that's the current rules and that's to give the chief justice time to finish hearing the oral arguments which start art at ten. Am and the Supreme Court across the street and for those folks who don't know the geography the Supreme Court is literally across the street from the US capital. So the chief Banged the gavel. In the oral argument ducks down into the parking garage of the Supreme Court gets in a car zips across the street you know and and the the trial can go on all all afternoon. So in the meantime they're supposed to be hearing cases they're supposed to be discussing cases with their colleagues at the Supreme Court. So you know. It's a real distraction from what his what he's normally supposed to be doing. He he has to take a car. He can't walk across the street he could but for security reasons and to get him over there faster they actually drive him over all right. I think that's a good more less. That's that's what they did with Rehnquist's. That's the precedent Asian. Oh that's what the Supreme Court is all about. I if somebody offered me a card across the street I'd probably take understand. We're GONNA take a quick break here. People we write back Hey It's Chris as you know sometimes it's good to just take a step back from the day to day onslaught of news and take our broader. Look the issues. That's what I'm doing each week on my podcast. Why is this happening? Were exploring topics ranging from school segregation and to climate change. Well the way that I think it is. Climate Change will be to the twenty first century. What modernity west of the nineteenth century it'll be the central subject of questions about economic justice us? Everything that you care about in the world will be affected by climate and digging deep with guests uniquely qualified to analyze issues from mass incarceration to race relations. As you know for the first time in Dr History at the national level whites are on the verge of losing their majority status in twenty years. And I think it's no coincidence that our politics are getting more tribal. Join me for. Why is this happening? New episodes every Tuesday. Wherever you get your podcasts? So we've been talking about the last impeachment the trial in the Senate the role of the chief justice back. Then William Rehnquist. Let's get to the present tense right now if there is a Senate trial for the impeachment of Donald Trump. It'll be John Roberts current chief justice presides over that Roberts has been on the court really fifteen years now. Doesn't seem like it's Bennelong but it's been fifteen years and he actually succeeded needed Rehnquist as as the chief justice when he passed away yes and he was. He was one of Rehnquist's clerks so that doesn't often happen that a former clerk replaces the justice. For whom Tom he wants clerk. But that's what happened there. What is Robert's reputation that he that he would carry into a Senate trial well remember at his confirmation hearing he said It was the job of justices and judges to call the balls and strikes but not to decide who pitches who bats and I will decide every case based on on the record according to the rule of law without fear or favor to the best of my ability and I will remember that. It's my job to call balls balls and strikes and not to pitch or bat. You know that's the reputation he's tried to have as one of judicial modesty and there've been a lot of people who say he he hasn't stuck with that of critics have been especially conservatives were critical of his ruling that rescued obamacare but for the most part He has moved the supreme cream court in an incremental way toward a more conservative direction. But he's not somebody who sees the limelight. There's been some suggestions that the The reputation tation of the court the kind of standing of the Supreme Court in American life ways on John Roberts a little bit you go back. Twenty years the Bush Gore decision Asian that Kinda settled the two thousand election the politicization of the Supreme Court it becomes an issue in in presidential elections. We hear about Donald Trump appealing to the conservative -servative base by promising. Hey somebody from this list will go on the Supreme Court the idea you know they did a lot of folks look at the court now is there are democratic. Justices in Republican. Justices hates that way him in. Does that affect how he would handle something like this. Well yes and no I mean he. I'm sure he goes in there not intending to be anybody's servant he's not going in there to push the proceedings in either a Republican or Democratic Direction. He certainly not going to be the Republicans judge judge but the other thing is even if he wanted to be he couldn't he doesn't have that much power that's the other part of it. The Senate really has all the control over this you the Mitch. McConnell the majority leader. He's talked a little bit about his expectations for how a trial would go including last month How he thought Roberts would handle this? The way this will work is is I would anticipate the chief. Justice would not actually make any rulings he would simply submit motions to the body A and we would vote was McConnell trying to deliver any message there. Well I don't know whether McConnell was trying to tell chief you know just lie back and let us run the thing but in fact that's really how it works now. I don't think he's GonNa Dodge every single question and leave it to the Senate. I think he will have to make some rulings there'll be some procedural angel rulings and by the way A lot is going to depend on whether the Senate calls live witnesses. They did not do that. In the Clinton impeachment they they had had witnesses that were interviewed before the trial when the house managers presented their case. They brought monitors onto the Senate floor and played little videotape excerpts. oops if they have live witnesses on the floor of the Senate. I can't imagine they're going to do that. They seem to not to want to but if they did then I think there would be a lot more or call for the chief to rule on whether certain statements are admissible or not if it were to come to John Bolton or some other live witness testifying vying in a Senate trial. Obviously that would be a difference from what you got in the Clinton trial in one thousand nine hundred ninety nine. What are the variables that Roberts the John Roberts presiding over this would then face that rehnquist didn't have to face back in ninety nine well It's just like in a normal trial. Where a lawyer asks a question and Council Salon the other side says objection is irrelevant? It's immaterial it calls for speculation it's hearsay or whatever and then Roberts is going to have to make rulings rulings now. The federal rules of evidence don't directly apply in a Senate impeachment trial And the rules. Don't really say much about relevance. It just says that the presiding officer gets to decide whether let's see. I'm looking at the rules right now. He may rule on all questions of evidence including but not limited to questions of relevancy materiality and redundancy of evidence an incidental questions which shall stand as the judgment of the Senate unless it's some member of the Senate. She'll ask that a formal vote. Be Taken so in theory. He has the authority to rule on these objections. But in fact the Senate has the ultimate say so if they want an answer they're gonna hear it so again. It's it's that prospect of the jury overriding the Josh. Gosh exactly right. They don't see that one law and order no so yeah last question. I mean again this. This idea that this will be the third impeachment trial in history history. folks looking back twenty thirty fifty years from now. Maybe longer would always see John Roberts name as part of this process if there's a Senate trial But it sounds like the way you describe it. He doesn't want that well he doesn't want it. And in fact he just as Salmon Chase and William Rehnquist before fell be footnotes in the history of these impeachment trials because their role is really as I say largely ceremonial in theory. They've got a lot of power in fact they you don't alright. NBC Justice correspondent. Pete Williams. Pete really appreciate your doing this. Thank you my pleasure. Article Michael to inside impeachment is produced by Isabel. Angel Max Jacobs Clear Tie Aaron Dolton Pref- Iverson Alison Bailey. Adam Novoa and Barbara Rab. Our Executive Producer user is Ellen. Franken Steve League tie the executive producer of audio. I'm Steve Kornacki. We back on Monday. Folks thanks thanks Pitas in from Germany By the made the press. Chuck Todd Cast. It's an insider's take on politics the twenty twenty election and more candid conversations with some of my favorite reporters about things. We usually discuss off camera. Listen for free wherever you get your podcast.
NPR News: 07-18-2019 3PM ET
"Support for this podcast and the following message come from Google from Connecticut California from Mississippi to Minnesota. Millions of businesses are using Google tools to grow online learn. How Google is supporting businesses in your state at Google dot com slash economic impact live from N._p._R.? News in Washington. I'm Lakshmi Sang in a victory for Labor. Rights advocates the U._S. House has approved an increase in the federal minimum wage to fifteen dollars over the next several years. Here's N._p._R.'s Kelsey Snell reports. The increase is widely supported by Democrats but it's not expected to make it through the G._O._p.. Dominated Senate House Democrats are cheering the passage of legislation to gradually increase the federal minimum wage over the course of six is years the bill which passed the House with three Republicans voting along with all but six Democrats would also phase out a separate lower wage for tipped workers but Senate majority leader Mitch McConnell already rejected the legislation in an interview. With Fox business this would depress the economy at a time of economic boom. We're not going to be doing that in the Senate. Republicans say a federal wage increase would force some companies to lay off some existing workers to keep up with the higher pay for others Kelsey Snell N._p._R.. News the capital Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin says budget and debt negotiators have reached an agreement on the core elements of the deal to increase the government's borrowing cap and said a one point three trillion dollar <music> overall level for the agency budgets. That Congress passes each year. I don't think the market should be concerned. I think that everybody is in agreement that we won't do anything that puts the U._S.. Government at risk in terms of <hes> our issue of defaulting defaulting and I think that nobody wants a a shutdown and any scenario so I. I don't think the markets should be concerned and we're working hard. We'll get there one way or another mnuchin speaking on C._N._B._C. squawk box today. Iran says says that it has seized a foreign tanker that was smuggling oil in the Persian Gulf N._p._R.'s Jackie Northern reports Iran state television says the tanker had twelve crew members on board Iran says Revolutionary Guard forces impounded the foreign tanker carrying a million liters of oil. The straight of Hormuz State TV says the tanker was smuggling fuel Ron did not name the vessel but it's believed it could be a Panamanian flagship that was nearby when it stopped transmitting its location early Sunday. Although the seizure the ship doesn't appear to target a particular country the move could ratchet up and already tense situation in the Gulf the U._S. blames around for earlier attacks on other oil tankers and there was a brief standoff last week between the British navy and Iranian vessels that tried to block a British tanker from passing through the straight of Hormuz through which twenty percent of the world's crude passes Jackie North N._p._r.. News U._S. stocks are trading higher this hour the Dow Jones industrial average up forty three points at twenty seven thousand two hundred sixty two the Nasdaq has gained nearly thirty point since the open. It's at eighty two fourteen in the S._M._p.'s up fifteen points at twenty nine ninety seven from Washington. This is N._p._R.. News the Fiftieth San Diego COMECON kicks off today Comics T._V. and movie fans from all over the country crowding into the city's downtown convention center to celebrate. Deliberate their favorite parts of pop culture. N._p._R.'s Petro Mayor Is there more than one hundred thirty thousand people are expected to show up this weekend. They're here to find out about the next marvel movies shop for toys and books art strut their stuff in elaborate costumes and maybe catch a glimpse of someone famous. That's Zam Mendez. WHO's visiting for Mexico Lin Manuel Miranda will be here today alongside cast mates from the new H._B._O.? Adaptation of the Phillip Pullman in series his dark materials. The convention runs through Sunday Petro Mayor N._P._R.. News San Diego more flight. Cancellations are in store at Southwest Airlines. The carrier says today that plans to push back the day that it expects to be able to put the grounded Boeing seven thirty seven Max jets back into operation. It says it without the plane it has to drop about a hundred eighty flights a day from its schedule Boeing's Max fleet was grounded after three hundred forty. Six people were killed hill in two plane crashes in Indonesian Ethiopia involving faulty flight control software. The Max was bowing top-selling plane until it was forced to suspend deliveries now too long term mortgage rates which are higher this week after they'd held steady.
Trending in the 7th Century
"Welcome to five minutes in churches hosted by Dr Stephen. Nicholson where we take a little break from the presence to go exploring. The past asked travel back in time as we look the people events and even the places that have shaped the story of Christianity. This is our story family history. Let's get started Welcome back to another episode of five minutes in Church history on this episode. Let's return to something we haven't done for a while. Now our trending in the centuries will do trending in the seventh century. We begin with two popes. The first is gregory the great. At stretches back into the end of the sixth century starting his papacy at five ninety and it ended with his death and six so four. He was followed briefly by Pope. who wasn't all that strong? And then he was followed by Pope Boniface the third. He was only pope for nine months in six. Oh seven but he was very influential and between Boniface the third and Gregory the first we see the rise of the supremacy the of the papacy and that very much trended in the seventh century. It was pope. Boniface the third who gave the papacy gave himself the title Universal Bishop so the first thing trending is the rise of the supremacy of the papacy. Well let's stay in Rome for a little bit in six thirty eighty. The Curia Julia was converted into a church. The Curia Julia was the Roman Senate House. Senate house was begun in by none other than Julius. Caesar Yes to Brew Tae Julius Caesar and seventy five years after he began the work. It was completed pleaded by octavius. The Senate met in that building all those years and all those centuries right up until six thirty when it was converted into who at Church by the way in the twentieth century Mussalini had all the church artifice removed and in nineteen thirty eight. He restored toward the structure to its original Roman Senate glory. Well leaving Rome. Let's go to the north to England in six. Oh eight we have the earliest tradition of the great English epic Poem Beowulf. The tail of the Hero Bay will slaying dragons dragons and slaying the monster Grendel and of course. Let's not forget the much worse monster Grenfell's mom so the epic poem was trending in the seventh century. Also trending was a heresy. Trending all the time so the seventh century we have Nestorian as it was condemned in the second council of Constantinople. Back in five fifty three in the cow Sedonia in creed was reaffirmed but Alas Nestorian ism was still alive in the seventh century. Well also alive was Saint Wilfrid. Saint Wilfrid was born and six thirty four and Northumbria. He died in seventy nine. He founded a number of Abbey's monasteries. He claims to bring the rule of Saint Benedict to English monasticism and bringing order and structure to the monasteries. All over England Kyd Mun also lived in the seventh century. Six fifty two to six eighty four second half of the seventh century. He's known as the father of English Sacred Song. Well also in the century is Mohammed and the rise of Islam Mohammed was born in five seventy the first Koranic vision claimed by Mohammed was in six ten and then he began his teachings there and Mecca not met with success but rather opposition then persecution. He left Mecca for Medina and six twenty two and six twenty nine. He returned with an overwhelming army and simply took the city of Mecca. He died three years later in six thirty two at his death he had somewhere around fifty thousand adherents and so we have the beginning and the rise of Islam. One last thing from the Seventh Evans Century. The earliest record of the spinach plant comes to us from the seventh century. It was a record written in Chinese and six forty seven. Ad So there you have it. Eat your spinach and remember. That's what was trending in the seventh century. I'm Steve Nichols and thanks for listening to five minutes in Church history for more ordination or to listen to past episodes. Please visit five minutes in Church. History Dot Com.
The Impeachment Trial Begins
"From The New York Times unlikable this infidelity a today the impeachment trial of Donald J trump begins this afternoon in the Senate Nick Fenders on how it will work. It's Thursday January sixteenth. Nick van described the past forty eight hours inside the capitol. How does it start so it starts on Tuesday morning when speaker? Nancy Pelosi who for close to a month now has has been withholding. The articles of impeachment against President Trump from the Senate goes down into the basement of the Capitol for a private meeting with all house Democrats and the speaker walks in and says guys. Finally the day is here. I'm ready to move forward Our break has accomplished what we wanted it to additional evidence. Evidence has come out over the course of this for weeks. We're going to vote tomorrow on Wednesday to name the team that will prosecute the case case against president trump and finally moved this over to the Senate and so that was the state of affairs for most of Tuesday afternoon but then L. The middle of nowhere as we've got very big breaking news tonight on the eve of a House vote to send President Donald Trump's articles of impeachment or the Senate. The House House Intelligence Committee that committee just released an incredibly incriminating cache of documents from Rudy Giuliani's indicted associate parnassus house house. Democrats released a new tranche of evidence that they had just gotten in recent days from love. Par Nas was obviously intimately involved in. President has an trump's attempts to pressure Ukraine to help dig up dirt on his political opponents. The basically new evidence in an impeachment case after after the impeachment has been completed. That's right here. was what seems to be meaningful new evidence from key player in this drama pouring forward in what exactly is in these documents from harness so there were three things that stood out immediately to us as interesting one. One was a letter from Rudy. Giuliani the president's personal lawyer to the new president of Ukraine. Asking for a meeting Jilani writing quote. I have a specific request in my capacity. His personal counsel to President Trump and with his knowledge and consent. I request a meeting with you this upcoming Monday or for the first time in that letter. We saw Giuliani putting down on paper that his client Donald Trump knew what he was up to and had sanctioned it and that ties the president even more closely to everything that Giuliani was doing in Ukraine. The second piece that stood out were text messages between par NAS and a former Ukrainian prosecutor who was investigating Joe Biden and wanted the American ambassador to Ukraine. Remember Marie Ivanovich out of the way and and what these messages seem to show is a kind of bargaining. That's going on that. The prosecutor will help Giuliani Parnasse in their team. Dig Up the dirt. What they want if they help get this American ambassador out of the way now? This would suggest that there's a closer tie between the removal of Cavani rich from her post which president trump eventually brings about last spring and the campaign to dig up dirt on his political opponents. Now the third thing our notes on stationary by Parnasse from the Ritz Carlton in Vienna. That mention trying to get the new president of Ukraine Ukraine to publicly announce an investigation into Joe Biden and his son. And this is what Democrats say. The president was after the whole time and the notes suggest chest. The parnassus the guy working with the president's personal lawyer was trying to get that done for him and nick. What are these three revelations really tell us about the larger her picture of the impeachment? Each of these has its own significance for the larger investigation. The weather from Giuliani's shows very clearly that he was keeping President President trump in the loop and working for the president. The text messages show that they were working to try and get damaging information on Joe Biden and the notes suggests further that they wanted to do that by getting Ukraine to publicly announce an investigation into the Biden's that would smear them so to speak and so these don't significantly change the shape of the case as we've understood it they make it a lot harder to argue that it didn't happen and and in that sense. They go a long way in strengthening the Democrats case in. What do you make of the timing of the release of these literally the night before war? The House is GonNa vote to send the articles of impeachment over to the Senate whether by design or by accident. This was terrifically helpful for the House and for the team of prosecutors that are about to go over and try and make their case in the Senate House. Oh well speaker. Pelosi withheld the articles of impeachment for month to try and gain leverage to push the Senate to call new witnesses and evidence in their trial. And so so the timing of this couldn't have been better to make the argument that hey there's compelling new evidence out there to be had and it won't be that hard to get senator's uh-huh when you don't want to hear from new witnesses if you don't want to call new documents Democrats would say then you're helping president trump in his cover up because the argument is that senators senators in taking a constitutional oath to render impartial judgement over to the constitution into the country to try and get as much material as they hand hand to make this way to decision and on top of that because this evidence has now all been submitted into the record before the articles are sent over to the Senate they can automatically be incorporated into the trial. Okay so what happens. Good morning everyone very important day. Hey for us so Wednesday morning speaker. Nancy Pelosi as expected convenes. A news conference in the capital and she arrives with seven Democratic lawmakers in Tokaj. Today is the day that we named the managers go to the floor to pass the resolution to transmit the articles articles of impeachment to the Senate. The team that she's about to introduce who will prosecute the houses case in the Senate but I she takes a quick chance to spike the football comments about. Why are we going to send the articles over to basically say? Hey I've taken a bunch the heat for this strategy to delay the Republicans have been beating me up left and right time has been our friend in this because has yielded incriminating being evidence more truth into the public domain. But you saw what happened last night right that validated. What I was talking about Um this is why I did what I did? So now you get it basically and we wouldn't be in this situation. Had we not waited and from their speaker. Nancy Pelosi Y- YUP turns to the lawmakers around her and begins to introduce the managers who basically fall into three groups. The first or those that were locked for the job care. Adam Schiff half of California's lead. That's Adam Schiff. The Chairman of the Intelligence Committee who oversaw the houses Ukraine investigation. Last fall and Jerry Nadler care of the have house. Judiciary Committee is serving his fifteenth term in Congress drafted the articles of impeachment and help build the constitutional and legal justification for the charges. The second group are respected senior lawmakers. Who are expected to be on the team but weren't givens shares it last night chair of the House Committee on House Administration so Lofgren California? This is her third impeachment in the House on the Judiciary Committee. She was a staff back during the Nixon impeachment and on the committee during the Clinton Impeachment Jeffries is the chair of the house. Democratic Caucus and is currently serving his fourth fourth term. In Congress became Jeffries he is the Chairman Chairman of the Democratic Caucus and a rising star within the Democratic Party. Also member of the Judiciary Committee demings a Florida and then Val demings. WHO's a former former police? Chief from Orlando who was on both Mr Shifts Committee and Nablus Committee and is very familiar with these facts and effective on the bench but then there were a couple of wild cards as well. He's become listening. Jason Crowe of Colorado is a member of the House Armed Services Committee. There's Jason Crowe who's a freshman Democrat from from Colorado. He's former military but he hasn't been involved in the impeachment debate all that much in the House and Sylvia Garcia is kind of semi Sylvia Garcia. He is a member of the house. Judiciary Committee is from the Houston area. She is a member of the judiciary committee but not a particularly outspoken one. I'm very proud and honored honored that the seven members distinguished members have accepted this serious responsibility. So what does this particular group tell you about what Pelosi is trying to accomplish. Why did she pick them all? especially the wildcards. So Pelosi stated one of her goals and she left one unstated instated as you can see. The emphasis is on litigators. The emphasis is on comfort level in the courtroom. The stated goal was to try and put together a team with a lot of courtroom experience. So you have lawyers and prosecutors in Garcia you have somebody that was part of the judicial system in Texas. She wanted a team. That was going to be ready to argue this case to put together briefs in the Senate the policies other goal here was to try and put together a team that was is regionally an ethnically diverse so you have lawmakers from the coast from New York and California you have lack lawmakers and Latino lawmakers and you have folks from the middle of the country Jason Crowe for instance from Colorado Garcia is from Texas in addition to being Latino so she was looking to to put together basically a team. That looks something like the Democratic Caucus and the country as a whole Rather than a set of coastalss deals or legal elites or like the team of managers the prosecuted Bill Clinton in one thousand nine hundred ninety nine. Thirteen white guys. Thirteen like guys yes. Thirteen white men from the house. Judiciary Committee brought the case against Bill Clinton over to the house. Yeah you know Nick. I'm curious is this desirable desirable assignment for a House Democrat. Or is this a job. People run from you know. I think it's a very desirable assignment and you know. Look farther than the fact that many lawmakers put their names forward wrote letters to Speaker Pelosi asking to be included on this team because these seven Democrats that's are now basically going to become the face of the houses case they will be the ones writing briefs but more importantly arguing on the floor of the Senate as to why President President trump's behavior warrants impeachment. And they're going to be all over. TV's across the country. There's the potential here for many of these folks for this to be a career defining fining moment You know Lindsey Graham. Who's now a very well known? Member of the Senate and confidant of the president. His career got its big boost when he was one of those thirteen eighteen house managers in nineteen ninety nine so this is a important historic role in. There will be books written about this as well and to to be a member of that team is to have a role in potentially at least history. But I don't think we could be better served than by the patriotism and dedication of the managers that I'm naming here this morning. Thank you all very much. Okay so once. These matters announced what happens after this news conference pretty quickly Pelosi and her team of seven walk upstairs I to the floor of the House Chamber where matters speaker. Pursuant to House resolution seven sixty seven I now sent to the desk resolution anointing and authorizing managers for the impeachment trial of Donald. John Trump President House votes along the same party lines that it did a month ago. When it approved the articles to formally appoint the managers and bring the case to trial on this vote? The Yeas are two hundred twenty eight. The nays are one hundred ninety ninety three. The resolution is adopted without objection and that is really the last vote that the house officially needs to take on this matter. It's now up to the managers to to bring their case forward and a Senate trial is imminent nick at this point as we're talking. It is three forty pm on Wednesday after that. Vote to approve the the house managers and transmit the articles of impeachment. So what is the next step so speaker Pelosi and the managers will reconvene now at five o'clock clock and begin basically the carefully choreographed exchange of the articles between the House and the Senate first speaker will sign the articles. What is called as only Congress could put an engrossment ceremony from there? The managers will line up with the sergeant at arms of the House and the clerk of the House and they will process out of the House through the Old House Chamber Rotunda of the capital over over to the Senate to meet the Secretary of the Senate and handover communication. The Senate will receive a message from the House. Representatives ten they are centrally really ready to come to trial the House of Representatives and handover nicely printed copy of their articles of impeachment for the Senate. President UH I have been directed by the House of Representatives to inform the Senate. The House has passed eight seven and so then the next step is basically to start trial only the third such proceeding in American history. Where a president of the United States will be potentially convicted were acquitted of high crimes and misdemeanors back When I believe we all need to do is identify future? We want to see and then do what it takes to make that happen. This is Gail Schuler Chief Sustainability Officer at three m three M partners with customers suppliers organizations to drive global action every every day. We work with brilliant people to advance our shared vision using science to help combat climate change develop a less wasteful economy and create vibrant communities three and believes in the good we can create together to build a sustainable future for all Sunni now that the impeachment moves from house to the Senate what does stat process. Look like over in the Senate walk us through it so on Thursday the trial will begin at starts with quite a bit more ceremony. The House House impeachment manager will once again walk over from the House to the Senate carrying their articles of impeachment. And this time they'll enter the Senate chamber and meet the Sergeant at arms. Who will give stern warning to? The senators will cry out here. Ye here Ye. Now you know. We're firmly in the territory of Old American conditions right indeed. You will warn senators that from here on out as long as the Senate sitting in trial they cannot speak quote on pain of imprisonment and if they do is a serious business. Senators are all expected to be in their desk and then the managers will process up into the center of the Senate and they'll read aloud their articles of impeachment. I understand this so throughout the trial house members will be going into the Senate and doing the talking King and the senators will under pain of imprisonment. Remain absolutely mum which is kind of interesting situation for the settlers it is. It's a very uncomfortable situation for senators. Who liked to do their own talking? Not only can they not speak. They won't be able to bring electronics into the chamber for hours at a time. Wow they will have to remain seated at their desks when they are allowed to ask questions they have to do so in writing and if senators wanted debate say emotion before vote. What they actually do is kick out reporters and the cameras and they closed the doors of the Senate and have that debate in private so this is not a preceding like any that at that I think any of us including me covering Congress are familiar with It's really about the house managers. And the president's defense lawyers arguing it out in front of the Senate which serves as both Kinda judge and a jury just a very silent version of that a very silent one okay so the house managers have the floor. Thursday morning that's right and so. They are introduced formerly to the Senate and the Senate summons next John Roberts the chief justice of the Supreme Court Tacoma over to the Senate. He takes an oath himself and then administered an oath to senators that for the duration of the trial. They swear to administer impartial justice. At that point the Senate sends summonsed President Trump telling him formally that he is on trial in the Senate and asking for his answer. The house managers. We'll get probably up to twenty four hours to make their case spread over three or four days. The President's defense team will get a chance to do the same thing for the same amount of time. Remember remember we've yet to hear from those defense lawyers since they declined to take part in the house proceedings and and then after both sides of made their case centers. We'll have a chance to ask questions and can they do that outlaw. This time know that remains in writing they can put it on pieces of paper and the chief justice will read them aloud. Wow but then we'll get to what may be the most interesting part of this trial. which is a debate which has already begun over whether or not to call new witnesses and compel new evidence? The prosecution and the defense can both put forward motions to call. Witnesses and senators will get an upper down vote and a simple majority wins so democrats Democrats want to call a number of administration. Witnesses people like John Bolton Mick Mulvaney they need the help of four Republicans if they want to make that happen and if they do if they're successful Republicans are pledging to use their majority to try and call witnesses that may be more favorable to the present potentially even Hunter Biden. Joe Biden's son. WHO's at the center of these investigations? That trump Giuliani in parnasse. We're looking for and Ukraine so all the sudden a two or the three week trial could end up lasting five or six weeks Eventually when senators have satisfied themselves they will vote either to convict or quit but remember. Do you need two thirds of all senators to support conviction to have the president convicted and removed from office. You know thinking back to what Speaker Pelosi said during a news conference difference. That time has been on the side of Democrats. that the delay in transmitting these articles of impeachment to the Senate in getting this trial underway. There may may have shifted the ground when it comes to things like calling witnesses or introducing new evidence and the contours of how this trial will unfold. Do you think that she's right. We won't know for sure for at least a couple of weeks until these votes come up but walking around the Senate in the last few days it certainly seems like like. There is a growing number of Republican senators. Who are open to this idea of calling witnesses? Who seemed to recognize after after four weeks of feeling intense pressure from the media and safe from their constituents that it's just the kind of smart and obvious thing to do you know another another indication we've started to hear more conservative Republicans? That are supportive of the President and conferring with Mitch. McConnell about what witnesses they would call to counter witnesses assist that Democrats in the moderates wanted you know that seems to be a nod an acknowledgement that. The chances are going up that we'RE NOT GONNA end up with a speedy narrow trial but one that may be more unwieldy and involve more witnesses. I wonder how much that really matters because as we have talked about many times on the show when when it comes to the Senate trial how many witnesses there are no matter what form this trial takes. There's an overwhelming predisposition by the majority to come to a certain certain conclusion in this case I will preface my answer by saying that I agree with you particularly in an election year. The idea that a Republican controlled Senate would pull together sixty-seven votes to remove the President United States when he'll be on the ballot in November. Seems like a total long shot. But I I think that we are in for more unexpected twists and turns than we think you know it's one thing for Republicans to be able to watch from afar as the house assembled this case over several months as they voted on articles of impeachment to dismiss it as partisan because there weren't Republican votes to dismiss it is rushed and having not proved the case because they haven't been up close grappling with the facts but as it gets closer and senators have to swear this awesome oath to administer impartial. Justice as they have to sit in their chairs silently without their cell phones listening to the arguments from the house and from the White House. I think we may start to see some lawmakers. Maybe the moderates. Maybe they're retiring. Maybe they're up for reelection in a swing estate. This fall moving ever so slightly out of their partisan corners the have defied so many fights in the trump era into the kind of ambiguous use middle and while that may not change the outcome of this particular trial. I think it will go a long way in coloring what it looks like for the American people who after all in just ten months are going to go to the ballot box themselves and be able to render under their own decision about whether president trump is fit to remain in office Nick thank you very much. Thank you Michael Customers from storefronts to websites nights from mobile APPs to chat windows it's their world and they don't just want help they wanNA feel your company is connected to them perfectly magically. Fortunately salesforce. The world's number one customer relationship management solution can help our technology puts customers at the center of everything. You do connecting marketing. Sales Service E ECOMMERCE and beyond on a single platform salesforce brings customers and companies together learn more at salesforce dot com slash daily yours. Here's what else you need. Tendered greatly appreciate your joining us at this White House event. This is very important and and remarkable occasion during a ceremony at the White House. On Wednesday president trump signed a preliminary trade deal with China intended intended to open Chinese markets to more US goods and protect against the theft of American trade secrets. Today we take a momentous step one that has never been taken before with China toward a future fair and reciprocal trade as we signed phase as one of the historic trade deal between the United States and China in of victory for the president. The deal leaves in place record tariffs graphs on Chinese goods and forces China to purchase two hundred billion dollars worth of American goods within two years together together we are writing the wrongs of the past and delivering a future of Economic Justice and Security for American workers farmers and families. Bud what the deal does little to resolve. Larger structural issues such as China's practice of subsidizing key industries like solar energy and steal importing them to the US and undercutting American manufacturers. And that's it for the deal. I'm Michael bo-bottle see tomorrow.
Chief Justice John Roberts' Role in the Senate Impeachment Trial
"The Wall Street Journal listeners. Come from all walks of life and business and no matter what type of business urine eighty p is here to help you achieve what you're working looking for with talent time benefits and payroll informed by data and designed for people learn more at design don. ADP DOT COM from the House floor to a Senate trial chief justice John Roberts will be presiding citing what he can do to set an example of how a federal judge behaves and how a judicial officers take their job and at a time when the judiciary three like other institutions is under a lot of criticism including From the president himself that may be viable example to show to the public plus. We've got an exclusive on Goldman Sachs and its role in a Malaysian corruption scandal. It's Thursday December nineteenth. This is the PM edition of what's news from from the Wall Street Journal. I'm angry for totally a New York. Democrats are signaling. They could delay. Okay send two articles of impeachment for abusive power and obstruction of Congress over to the Senate House Speaker. Nancy Pelosi says she's waiting for Senate Republicans to set rules. She considers fair. She's also holding off on naming impeachment managers. Who would act as prosecutors chief justice John Roberts will preside over the trial? We'll have more on his role in that coming up in just a bit. The House of Representatives has approved a new version of a trade agreement between the US. China and Mexico knows. US MCA. The deal will replace Nafta one of president. Trump's campaign pledges was to renegotiate the deal to benefit. US workers the US. Senate is expected to take up the agreement early next year. The Senate is on track to approve too broad spending packages today totaling nearly one point four trillion dollars to avert a government shutdown when current grant funding runs out on Friday. President trump has indicated that he plans to sign it. The Senate passed the first package of bills which focuses on domestic programs earlier. Today it includes the most significant changes to the nation's retirement system in more than a decade for more details. Be Sure to listen to our your money briefing podcast. On Friday Swiss drugmaker Novartis has launched a lottery to offer the world's most expensive drug for Free Soul Jen's Ma one time treatment for infant muscle. Wasting disease is is a gene therapy drug. That cost two point one million dollars under the program. Doctors can submit requests for the treatment for eligible patients drawing. We'll take place every two hugh weeks but critics including patient groups say the lottery is inappropriate and forces patients to compete for treatment. Seven Democrats will take the stage in Los Angeles tonight for the first date since the House voted to impeach. President Trump Democrats have been largely united on that issue but remained split over others including healthcare care education and spending tonight's debate is the last of the year the latest Wall Street Journal. NBC News Poll Finds Former Vice President. Joe Biden leading the field of candidates. It's followed by Vermont. Senator Bernie Sanders for all the highlights from tonight's debate. Listen to our. Am Edition of what's news tomorrow morning. Wall Street Journal listeners. Come from all walks of life and business and no matter what what type of business you're in eighty P is here to help you achieve what you're working for with. HR talent time benefits and payroll informed by data and designed for people learn more at design DON ADP Dot Com in Wall Street Journal exclusive. We report that Goldman Sachs is in talks to admit guilt and pay a two billion dollar fine to resolve a criminal investigation for its role in a wide ranging Malaysian corruption scandal. Joining me now with more details Wall Street Journal. Reporter Liz Hoffman. Let's take a quick step back and just remind listeners of the context of this S. scandal. This is pretty wide ranging. This is widely seen as the largest financial fraud in history there was a government fund in Malaysia called one MD and it was extensively there to help develop the economy development. Projects Goldman helped raise about six and a half billion dollars through bond offerings to its clients. Prosecutors leaders in the US and Asia say most of that got stolen my couple of people that primarily a Malaysian national named Jolo and his associates who include two former former Goldman bankers and Some officials from the Middle East as well so just like a massive massive theft and a lot of that money has been lost forever. Probably some of it has been recovered real estate and other other things that governments around the world have seized yacht some art but this is like a great rate Heist Caper so Liz tell me more about your exclusive on Goldman Sachs and its talks with the US government. What exactly would this settle? It depends how broad it gets at the moment. Goldman is talking only really to the Department of Justice which is one of several agencies. That's been looking into this. So would settle the most serious criminal charges against the bank for violating federal anti bribery laws. It would probably not settle related matters with securities and Exchange Exchange Commission which usually have to do with broker dealers and disclosures to investors. It would not settle an investigation Malaysia which has been ongoing. So there's some loose threads here golden and would like to wrap it up sort of comprehensively the probably GonNa have to do it in pieces. How have the allegations wait on Goldman? It's certainly weighed on the stock price. It's widely seen as something that's been pushing down the stock price just because investors don't know how big a problem it's going to be. It's also been a reputational problems. People have to go out and pitch their business and there's headlines all the time about corruption bribery and it's just a bad bad luck all around. What are the other loose ends not involving Goldman that have it to be tied up here on Jolo remains at large the US government would like to prosecute him? He's sort of last known to be in China but they don't have him. There's another Goldman banker who was extradited from Malaysia. Here there are some you know. Both golden bankers one has pleaded guilty. He'll need to be sentenced. The other has pleaded not guilty in. We'll either need to be tried or have that wrapped up and you know there's some other banks. Deutsche Bank has been sort of implicated in this and this is the first bond offerings want him to be was started about ten years ago the first bond offerings two thousand twelve zoo really been a long running scandal and it's only gotten wider as it's Gone Wall Street Journal. Reporter underlaw Hoffman. Thank you so much. Glad to beer after Wednesday's lengthy debate and vote the next stop for the articles of impeachment is the Senate. The constitution requires the chief justice of the Supreme Court. Preside over a Senate trial of the president. So it will be on Chief Justice John Roberts Roberts to take on that role. It's more public one for Roberts. Most of the High Court's proceedings take place behind closed doors and the Senate impeachment trial of president. Trump is shorts contract. Plenty of attention joining me now. From Washington with more details his Wall Street Journal reporter Jasper Raven so just before we get to you chief justice Robert Specific Role. What can you tell us about? How the impeachment trial in the Senate will work well actually? We don't really know to a large extent because the Senate has not adopted rules for this specific trial there are guidelines that the Senate adopted in nineteen eighty six before there were any twentieth century impeachment trials and they suggest that There will be the Senate will meet in the afternoon. There will be. Obviously a prosecution led by the house managers and a defense By the president's lawyers and there will be a presiding officer. That's the chief justice of the United States. The constitution actually requires that the chief justice preside when the president is Tried in an impeachment proceeding. We know that there have to be two thirds of the senators present voting to to convict otherwise The president would be acquitted of the impeachment charges. So we know those things we know as well that in contrast to a typical trial where the trial judge runs the show and while there can be objections. His decisions those Those have to be decided decided by higher courts Down the line in this court of impeachment as it's known the jury actually outranks the judge and can overrule him so so If the chief justice were to make a decision about Admitting evidence or particular arguments or whether to call a witness the Senate could by a simple majority vote overrule him And that's again something very different. It's like Having seven jurors Able to overrule the trial judge When he decides whether certain evidence is going to come in or not to criminal trial so that's one one distinction and in fact the The chief justice. It doesn't even have to make a ruling the nine hundred six guidelines say that he can choose to simply let the Senate vote he can punt and let them vote on those questions. uh-huh themselves directly so obviously impeachment is a highly polarizing issue and you write about how the presence of Justice Roberts could actually serve to calm that partisanship tell us a little bit more about given his history the role he might play here how he might direct proceedings. Well he's got very few precedents to go on on their only two prior Impeachment trials of a president and one one per century basically so there aren't a lot of simple models from to follow so but the chief justice runs the Supreme Court courtroom with a firm but not insensitive hand so he knows how to run proceedings. There's very little incentive for any of the parties to try to take him off because he will remain a very powerful figure in other settings for many years. Here's to come. Whether he can somehow alter the character of the town of the proceedings themselves is hard to say what he can do set. An example of how a federal judge behaves and how a judicial officers take their job and at a time when the judiciary like other institutions is under a a lot of criticism including From the president himself that may be valuable example to show to the public or turn of Li. It may not if things get out of hand and he you can't control it and it's a political circus and he is overwhelmed by it that that too will communicate a message. I don't think any of US expects that but A lot of unexpected things have happened in recent. Isn't years jazz as you point out aside from this impeachment trial president trump also has a lot of issues that are going to be coming before the Supreme Court which obviously Justice Roberts it sits on. That's a I think a a really important part of the dynamic to To keep in mind in this trial in this event although the the chief justice justice will have his black robes and he'll be sitting at the rostrum and you'll appear like a lordly magistrate overseeing these events The fact that he actually has on paper relatively little power because he can be so easily overruled by a majority of the Senate but coming up in the months ahead our are other matters involving president trump. Very important to whether he keeps his job in November when There will be another election. And what happens to him when he eventually leaves office. And that's because one of his important policies are currently in the hands of the Supreme Court For example the DACA program the temporary relief for for illegal immigrants brought to the US children president trump has sought to cancel that Obama era program. Lower courts have stopped him. The Supreme Court heard arguments about this and is going to decide. Probably June whether that program can be cancelled by the president or whether he has to take another crack at the rationale for ending it. Maybe even more more important the president has been fighting to stymie. A number of subpoenas issued by House committees and the The New York county prosecutor Cyrus Vance for his financial records these subpoenas Goto his accounts into banks for a house and state. Investigators reviewing hush money payments humans to stormy Daniels and other aspects of his accounting. That have raised questions if the Supreme Court is GonNa hear arguments in that in March. They won't won't be televised. Perhaps they'll be live audio. We don't know yet. That case also will be decided likely in June and that decision may have a tremendous effect on The president's future and how he is perceived so the fact that we can see Chief Justice Roberts behaving now may in fact color the way we look at what the Supreme Court ultimately does since he As the head of the federal judiciary really embodies that Third Branch of government. All right so plenty more to come here Wall Street Journal reporter Jesper even even joining me from Washington. Thank you so much just anytime. And that's what's news for this Thursday afternoon. I'm Marie for totally for the Wall Street Journal. Thanks for listening and.
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"Support for this podcast and the following message come from American pest open your doors who a healthy pest free home with American pest offering safe environmentally friendly pest control solutions throughout the D._m._v. for over ninety years learn more at American American past dot net live from N._p._R.. News in Washington. I'm Jack Speer. The streets of San Juan Puerto Rico were again filled with protesters today just hours after that island's governor Ricardo wrote CEO announced he will accede to their demands and step down as N._p._R.'s David Welna reports someone amount immediately governor Rocio says he'll leave office August second. That's not good enough for businesswomen so Juan Gonzalez. I would prefer that he will leave. Right now today because what he's doing is just helping his party get everything on their cy organized and what's beneficial for him. There's also deep skepticism about Justice Secretary Wanda Fuskus who's next in mind governor Pablo Mendez Lassos a university professor. I don't say that all I think it's mode of the same because she had been there Brooke detecting all of the steps on decisions that the government had been making backstage street protests are expected to continue here David Welna N._p._R.. News San Juan Puerto Rico for the major automakers of signed a deal with California to lower greenhouse gas emissions by working to improve gas mileage agreement in essence bypassing plans by the trump. Trump administration to freeze fuel efficiency standards at twenty twenty one levels the agreement involving Ford B._M._w.. Honda and Volkswagen was reached with the California Air Resources Board which has been at odds with the trump administration over fuel efficiency standards for months. The trump administration has proposed freezing fleet wide new vehicle fuel economy at thirty six miles per gallon. The House of Representatives approved a massive two year spending deal today and bureau's Claudia Gra Solace reports the plan now has to the Senate House lawmakers Chris approved a deal to suspend the debt ceiling passed a twenty twenty elections and set one point three trillion dollars for defense and domestic spending over the next two years the two hundred and eighty four to one hundred forty nine vote marks one of the houses last legislative actions before. We're leaving for their six weeks summer recess the White House and congressional leaders reached the bipartisan agreement to head off a potential Crisis House Speaker Nancy Pelosi lauded the plan ahead of the vote retaking action to avoid another government shutdown down which is so harmful to me. The needs of the American people Senate leaders say they have the votes to approve the plan next week cloudy Silas N._p._R.. News Washington orders for durable goods costly manufactured items designed the last three years or more rose last last month the uptake and orders parley propelled by increased demand for commercial airplanes and cars while some numbers can swing widely from month to month the Commerce Department reports a key category that tracks business investment had its biggest increase in four months overall. Durable goods orders rose almost two percent in June stocks retreated from the recent round-ups amid concerns over some weaker than expected second quarter earnings reports. The Dow was down one hundred twenty eight points today. The Nasdaq closed down eighty two points. You're listening to N._P._R.. N._P._R.. Following North Korea's latest launch missiles U._N.. Secretary General Antonio Taras sculling for these swift resumption of working level talks between Washington and Ping Yang the U._N.'s deputy spokesman citing concerns over escalating violating tensions after President Trump North Korean leader Kim Jong owns meaning at the demilitarized zone in June where they agreed to continue talks South Korea says at least one of two weapons five North Korea. This week appears to be a new type of short range missile. A controversy old child immigrant shelter in taxes emptied out today as a number of unaccompanied minors crossing the southern border continues to drop as N._p._R.'s John Burnett Explains Critics called it a concentration camp advocates said it was a better alternative alternative to grim border patrol sells you health and Human Services announced that the last migrant child has been discharged from the emergency influx center in Korea Springs Texas. The Federal Agency says it will retain access to the facility in case the number of migrant kids spikes bikes again. The sheltered demobilized less than a month after it opened the office of Senator. Jim inhofe of Oklahoma confirms that an additional child shelter for sixteen hundred miners on the Fort Sill Army post has been put on hold and the nation's largest child shelter.
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What prosecutors say went on his private island after he became a convicted sex offender a sex trafficking ring with girls as young as twelve? The new lawsuit lawsuit also breaking the deadly crash of Van carrying the Holy Cross women's rowing team colliding with a pickup. The Star Athlete killed a day. After celebrating her twentieth twentieth birthday parents officials demanding answers after that Delta plane dumped jet fuel on a playground and schools dozens of children injured. You'll hear the pilots ballots. Emergency call what they didn't tell the tower and the winter storm on the move from coast to coast Al roker timing out this is. NBC Z nightly news with Leicester. Hold good evening tonight for only the third time in our history. The stage is set for the impeachment trial of an American president a constitutional constitutional process that will determine whether president trump should be removed from office house. Democrats this evening delivering the two articles of impeachment charging abusive power our obstruction of Congress to the Senate all of it now setting up a showdown over the Senate trial we begin with. NBC's Peter Alexander. Tonight the historic handover after nearly a month's delay house Democrats completing rituals of impeachment. The articles ceremonially hand carried to the Senate a chambers still wrestling with terms of trial heats up donald John trump it caps a pivotal day with house speaker. Nancy Pelosi this morning morning. Naming the seven impeachment managers who will prosecute the Democrats case is not above the law. He will be held accountable. He has been held accountable but he has been impeached. He's been impeached forever. They can never erase that Pelosi tonight. Defending her delay. That recently prostrated even a few members hours of her own party. Time has been our friend and all this because has a roof yielded incriminating evidence. Democrats are now demanding. The Senate call all additional witnesses like former national security adviser John Bolton to Senate is on trial as well as the president. Do they want fair trial one. That's fair to the president. But also fair to the American could people or are they going to participate in a cover up but Republicans are attacking the partisan sham emphasizing that House Democrats never subpoenaed and we are doing with. This majority has worked entire time for before. They're even sworn in so they could say the president is impeached. The House this afternoon voting along party lines lines descend both charges to the Senate or the top Republicans already criticizing case. They passed the first presidential impeachment. That does not even allege an actual raw crime under our laws chief justice. John Roberts will soon preside over. What will be only the third presidential impeachment trial in history among the strict rules snow standing on the Senate floor no talking and no cellphones? All questions must be submitted in writing president trump today during a signing ceremony for the China at a trade deal bashing the house's latest. Move some of the Congressmen may have a vote. And I know it's on the impeachment hoax a hoax going on over there. Let's take care of it at noon tomorrow. The house managers will return to the Senate to read the articles of impeachment. Then at two o'clock chief justice Roberts arrives to swear in the senators as the jurors with the trial set to begin next Tuesday. Laster all right Peter. Thanks we've got a reminder today of how we got here is this impeachment moves forward explosive evidence tonight on the president's pressure pressure campaign in Ukraine documents. The Democrats say makes their case even stronger. The man they come from speaking exclusively in an MSNBC interview you. Here's Halley Jackson for the first time. The man at the center of a dramatic new document release shares his stories speaking exclusively with. MSNBC's Rachel Matto Auto. What do you think is the main inaccuracy or the main lie? That's being told that you feel like you can correct. The president didn't know what was going on President trump no exactly what was going on. he was aware of all my movements I wouldn't do anything without the consent. The Rudy Giuliani or the president in terms of the president. What he has said about you? he said about you and Mister Fromm anywhere from. I don't know those gentlemen I don't know about them mm-hmm I don't know what they do. You're saying that was not a true statement from the president he liked. The White House is not commenting tonight but the president has denied any wrongdoing. Love Parnasse worked closely with the president's personal attorney Rudy Giuliani in Ukraine to try to dig up dirt on the president's political rivals efforts at the center of the impeachment inquiry Parnis harness who was arrested on campaign finance charges in October with a one way. Ticket out of the country is now cooperating with house impeachment investigators handing over phone records and messages ages. One New Voice Mail just released late today comes from a lawyer linked to the president mentioning the big one a possible reference to president trump. They live DT hair We've got a request to talk to big one. There's this handwritten note part of what looks like a to do list scribbled by Parnis on ritz-carlton stationary quote get the Ukrainian President Vladimir Alinsky to announce that the Biden case will be investigated a text message exchange with another associate highlights. The push to oust the Ukrainian ambassador at the time. Maria Vich suggesting she was under surveillance by private security. They'll let me know when she's on the move and then there's a letter from Giuliani himself. Asking for a meeting with the Ukrainian leader and acknowledging the knowledge and consent of President Trump Giuliani defending himself tells NBC. He was acting in his role all his defense counsel seeking exculpatory evidence but some Democrats say these documents help make their impeachment case by putting the president at the center of the push to investigate his rivals levels. Evidence is overwhelming. The the latest evidence with with partners and Giuliani makes it even more so the president's Republican allies disagree read dismissing the documents arguing. They don't change anything in the impeachment. Proceedings Halley Jackson. NBC News. The White House and the house was preparing to send those impeachment articles the Senate the president announce a major trade. Deal with China Tom Costello and what it means for families before a roof Wall Street and business leaders President Trump and China's vice premier today phase one of a trade deal aimed at ending. I heated trade war. That's dragged on for two two years together. We are writing the wrongs of the past and delivering a future of Economic Justice and Security for American workers farmers and Families Eh. American families are unlikely to see cheaper prices soon on many Chinese made products like TV's shows and clothing since most US tariffs will remain in effect until the second phase of the trade deal is completed. China has agreed to buy two hundred billion dollars worth of American products and services including eighty billion dollars in US manufactured goods forty billion dollars worth of American farm exports and protections for US trade secrets and Intellectual Property Virginia farmer. John Boyd has struggled to make ends meet since the trade war caused soybean prices to collapse babba mortgage on his farm. I have not been able to make my mortgage payment right now because these prices are at an all time. Low Wall Street today applauded the deal. Closing above twenty nine thousand for the first time in history China Today said it expects the US to treat Chinese companies fairly an indicator both sides are looking for a win to put this trade war behind them. Lester auster Hi Tom. Castello thank you in the aftermath of his death New Lawsuit Claims Jeffrey Epstein Ran An underage sex ring at his private island for years after he became became a convicted sex offender. Your Stephanie Tonight. New allegations that Jeffrey Epstein abused girls on his private island in the Caribbean and some as recently as twenty eighteen in a sex trafficking web that went on longer and involved more girls than anyone realized according to authorities. Jeffrey Epstein's steen carried out an expensive scheme of human trafficking and sexual abuse of Young Women and underage girls. Right here in the Virgin Islands. The Attorney General in the Virgin Islands filing a civil suit against epsteins estate accusing the financier of bringing minors as young long as twelve to his secluded compound described as the perfect hideaway for Trafficking Young Women and underage girls. Excuse me we got a close up view of his island during a visit last summer according to the suit flight logs and other sources establish that up until Two Thousand Nineteen Epstein brought underage girls to his island island using his own private planes and helicopters while there they were subjected to sexual servitude and forced to engage in sexual acts echoing going stories some victims told NBC News including Jonty Davies. Who says she was raped on the island when she was twenty two and that first time was on the island and it happened multiple times on the same trip this suit alleges for the first time that Epstein continued to abuse girls long after he struck? What many considered a sweetheart plea we deal with federal prosecutors in Florida in two thousand and eight? He served thirteen months in jail. After pleading guilty to soliciting prostitution following his release Epstein Eighteen was free to travel where he pleased including homes in New York Paris. And here he's Island Compound Stephanie Osc. NBC News. A story that continues we used to unravel want to tell you about tragic story out of Florida. It's a deadly crash involving the women's rowing team at Holy Cross killing a star athlete. Here's Carrie Sanders. Police say the Holy Cross women's rowing team from Massachusetts were in two vans headed to a practice in Vero Beach Florida this morning when one of the vans collided with the red pickup truck accident authorities believed the van pulled into the path of the truck when both had solid green lights key team members in that second van witnessed the collision. We're GONNA need one more killed in the accident. Team member grace read. She recently broken indoor rowing record. Sixty two hours without sleep and celebrated her twentieth birthday just yesterday. Grace was alight tall. All who knew her shoes incredibly passionate tonight. Six others in the van are listed in critical or serious condition. It's terrible and it's a tragic event. Holy Cross a Jesuit College tonight leaning on its faith in the wake of this unexpected loss carry sanders NBC News. There is a major winter storm. That is starting to sweep from coast to coast. Our roker is with us. What are you watching Lester? 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The Lives of the Twelve Caesars: Claudius, by Suetonius
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We're reading from the lives of the twelve caesars. By See suetonius tranquilize to which are added his lives of the crew. Marion's rhetorician and poets translated by Alexander Thomson and revised by t Forrester published by George. Bow London. Eighteen ninety six. Let's begin this evening with volume five. Claudius Tiberius Claudius drew. Caesar Livia having married Gustis when she was pregnant was within three months afterwards. Delivered of drew says the father of Claudius Caesar who had it I the Prey Newman of decimals. But afterwards that of Nero and it was suspected that he was begotten in adultery by his father in law the following verse however was immediately in. Everyone's mouth nine months for common births the fate's decree but for the great reduced the term to three this truce during the time of his being custer and prater commanded in the region and German wars and was the first of all the Roman generals who navigated the northern ocean. He made likewise some prodigious trenches beyond the Rhine which to this day are called by his name he overthrew the enemy in several battles and drove them far back into the depths of the desert nor did he desist from pursuing them until an apparition in the form of a barbarian woman of more than human size appeared to him and in the Latin tongue forbade him to proceed any farther. Fred these achievements he had the honor of innovation and the triumphal ornaments after his prater ship. He immediately entered on the office of console and returning again to Germany died disease in the summer encampment which then S- obtain the name of the unlucky camp. His corpse was carried to Rome by the principal persons of the several municipalities and colonies upon the road being met and received by the recorders of each place and buried in the campus. Martius in honor of his memory. The army erected a monument round which the soldiers annually up on a certain day used to march in solemn procession and persons deputy from the several cities of Gaul performed religious rites the Senate Mike Wise among various other honors decreed for him a triumphal arch of marble with trophies in the APP Ian Way and gave the economic upturn mannequins to him and his posterity in him the civil and military virtues were equally displayed. For besides his victories he gained from the enemy the SPA OPIE MA and frequently marked up the German chiefs in the midst of their army and encountered them in single combat at the utmost hazard of his life he likewise often declared that he would sometime or other if possible restore the ancient government in this account. I suppose some have ventured to affirm that a Gustis was jealous of him and recalled him and because he made no haste to comply with the order took him off by poison. This I mentioned I may not be guilty of any mission more than because I think it either true or probable since Augusta slapped him so much when living that he always in his wills made him Choi to air with his sons as he wants declared in the Senate and upon his deceased extolled him the speech to the people to that degree that he prayed the gods to make his Caesar's like him and to grant himself as honorable and exit out of this world as they had given him and not satisfied with inscribing upon his tomb an epitaph in verse composed by himself. He wrote likewise the history of his life. In pros he had by the younger Antonia several children but left behind him only three namely Germanacos villa and Claudius Claudius was born at Leon in the console ship of Julius Antonius and Fabulous Africanus upon the first of August. The Very Day upon which an altar was first dedicated there to Augustus he was named Tiberius. Claudius struse's but soon after words upon the adoption of his elder brother into the Julian family he assumed the CONAN UP TREMENDOUS. He was left an infant by his father and during almost the whole of his minority and for some time after he attained the age of men awed was afflicted with a variety of obstinate disorders. In some much that his mind and body being greatly impaired he was even after his arrival. At years of maturity never thought sufficiently qualified for any public or private employment he was therefore during a long time and even after the expiration of his minority under the direction of a pedagogue who he complains in a certain memoir was a barbarous wretch and formerly superintendent of the mule drivers who was selected for his governor on purpose to correct him severely on every trifling occasion on account of this crazy constitution of body and mind at the spectacle of gladiators which he gave the people jointly with his brother in honor of his father's memory. He presided muffled up in a Palim. A new fashion when he assumed the manly habit. He was carried in a litter at midnight to the capital without the usual ceremony. Claudius applied himself however from an early age with great agility to the study of the Liberal Sciences and frequently published specimens his skill in each of them but never with all his endeavours could attain to any public post in the government or afford any hope of arriving at distinction thereafter. His Mother Antonia frequently called him an abortion of man that had been only begun but never finished by nature and when she would upgrade anyone with dullness. She said he was a greater fool than her son. Claudius his grandmother Augusta always treated him with the utmost contempt. Very rarely spoke to him and when she did. Monash him upon any occasion it was in writing very briefly and severely or by messengers. His sister La Villa upon hearing that he was about to be created. Emperor openly and loudly expressed her indignation that the Roman people should experience a fate so severe and so much below their grandeur to exhibit the opinion both favourable and otherwise entertained concerning him by Gustis. His great uncle I have here some joined some extracts from the letters of that emperor quote. I have had some conversation with Tiberius. According to your desire my dear Livia as to what must be done with your grandson Tiberius at the Games of Mars. We both agreed in this that once. Aw We ought to determine what course to take with him for if he really sound and so to speak quite right in his intellects why should we hesitate to promote him by the same steps and degrees? We did his brother but if we find him below par and efficient both in body and mind. We must be aware of giving occasion for him and ourselves to be laughed at by the world which is ready enough to make such things the subject of Mirth and derision for we never shall be easy if we are always to be debating upon every occasion up this kind without settling in the first instance whether he'd be really capable of public offices or not with regard to what you consult me about. At the present moment I am not against his superintending feast of the priests in the Games of Mars. If he will suffer himself to be governed by his kinsman SALONA says son that he may do nothing to make the people stare and laugh at him but I do not approve of his. Witnessing the Circassian Games from the pull Venar he will be. They're exposed to view in the very front of the theater nor do I like that. He should go to the Alban Mount or be it wrong during the Latin festivals. For if he capable of attending his brother to the mount why is he not made prefect City thus my dear Livia. You have my thoughts on the matter. In my opinion we ought to settle this affair once for all that we may not be always in suspense. Between Hope and fear you may think proper give your Kinsmen Antonia this part of my letter to read and quote in another letter. He writes as follows quote. I shall invite the Youth Tiberius every day during your absence to supper that he may not SUPP- alone with his friends so pcs and Theodorus. I wished the poor creature was more cautious and attentive in the choice of someone who's manners. Air and gate might be proper for his imitation. In things of consequence he sadly fails where his mind does not run a stray discovers a noble disposition and quote in a third letter. He says quote. Let me Die Livia if I am not astonished that the declamation up your grandson Tiberius should please me for how he who talks so ill should be able to declaim so clearly and properly. I cannot imagine and quote. There is no doubt but Augusta's after this came to a resolution upon the subject and accordingly left him invested with no other honor than that of the augural priesthood naming him amongst the heirs of the third degree who were but distantly allied to his family for six the part of his estate only with a legacy of no more than eight hundred thousand sister. She's upon his requesting some office in the state. Tiberius granted him the honorary appendages of the console ship and when he pressed for a legitimate appointment the emperor wrote word back that he sent him forty gold pieces for his expenses during the festivals of the Saturnalia and Sidga Larrea upon this laying. Aside all hope of advancement. He resigned himself entirely to an indolent life. Living in great privacy one while in his gardens or a Fila which he had near the city. Another while in compagno where he passed his time in the lowest society by which means besides his former character of a dull heavy fellow. He acquired that of a drunkard and game. Stir notwithstanding this sort of life much. Respect was shown him both in public and private. The equestrian order twice may choice of him to intercede on their behalf. Wants to obtain from the console's the favor of burying on their shoulders the corpse of Augusta's to Rome and a second time to congratulate him upon the death of Sa- John us when he entered the theater they used to rise and put off their cloaks the Senate likewise decreed that he should be added to the number of the Augusta College of priests who were chosen by lot and soon afterwards when his house was burnt down that it should be rebuilt at the public charge and that he should have the privilege of giving his vote. Amongst the men of consular rank this decree however was repealed. Tiberius insisting to have him excused on account of his imbecilities and promising to make good his loss at his own expense but at his death he named him in his well amongst his third airs for a third part of his estate leaving him besides a legacy of to millions of sister she's and expressly recommending him to the army's the Senate and people of Rome amongst other relations at last guys his brother's son upon his advancement to the empire endeavoring to gain the affections of the public by all the arts of popularity. Claudius also was admitted to public offices and help console ship jointly with his nephew for two months as he was entering the forum for the first time with the fash. She's an eagle which was flying that way alighted upon his right shoulder. A second console ship was also allotted him to commence at the expiration of the fourth year. He sometimes presided at the public spectacles as the representative of guys being always on those occasions complemented with the acclamations of the people wishing him all happiness sometimes under the title of the emperors on gone and sometimes under that up. Germanic asus brother still. He was subjected to many sides. If any he came in late to supper he was obliged to walk around the room some time before. He could get a place at table when he indulged himself with sleep after eating which was common practice with him. The company used to throw olive stones and dated him and the buffoons who attended would wake him as if it were only in dressed with a cane or a whip sometimes they would put slippers upon his hands as he lays snoring that he might upon awaking rob his face with them he was not only exposed to contempt but sometimes likewise to considerable danger. I in his console ship for having been to remiss in providing and erecting the statues of gases brothers. Niro and truces. He was very near being deprived of his office. And after words he was continually harassed with informations against him by one or other sometimes even by his own domestics when the conspiracy of Lapidus and guide tool Lucas was discovered being sent with some other deputies into Germany to congratulate the emperor upon the occasion. He was in danger of his life. Guy Is being greatly enraged and loudly complaining that his uncle was sent to him as if he was a boy who wanted a governor some even say that he was thrown into a river in his traveling dress from this period he voted in the Senate always the last of the members of Concierge Bank being called upon after the rest one purpose to disgrace him a charge for the forgery of a will was also allow to be prosecuted though he had only signed it as a witness at last being obliged to pay eight millions of sister she's upon entering upon a new office of priesthood. He was reduced to such traits in his private affairs. That an order to discharge his bond to the Treasury he was under the necessity of exposing to sail his whole estate. By an order of the prefects having spent the greater part of his life under these circumstances he came last to the Empire in the Fiftieth Year of his age by a very surprising turn of fortune being as well as the rest prevented from approaching guy by the conspirators who dispersed the crowd under the pretext of his desiring to be private he retired into an apartment called the her ma'am and soon afterwards terrified by the report of gas being slain. He crept into an adjoining balcony where he hid himself behind the hangings of the door a common soldier who happened to pass that way spying his feet and desirous to discover who he was pulled him out when immediately recognizing him he threw himself in a great Friday at his feet and saluted him by the title of Emperor. He then conducted him to his fellow soldiers who were all in a great rage and irresolute. What they should do they put him into a litter and ask the slaves of the palace had all fled took their turns in carrying him on their shoulders and brought him into the camp sad and trembling the people who met him lamenting his situation. As if the poor innocent was being carried to execution being received within the ramparts he continued all night with the sentry on guard recovered somewhat from his right but in no great hopes of the succession for the consoles with the Senate and civic troops had possessed themselves of the form and capital with the determination to assert the public liberty and he being sent four likewise by tribune of the people to the Senate House to give his advice upon the present juncture of affairs returned answer quote I am under constraint and cannot possibly come and quote the day afterwards the Senate being delayed hurry in their proceedings and worn out by divisions amongst themselves while the people who surrounded the Senate House shouted that they would have one master naming. Claudius he suffered. The soldiers assembled arms to swear allegiance to him. Promising them fifteen thousand sister. She's a man. He being the first of the Caesar's who purchased a submission of the soldiers with money having thus established himself in power. His first object was to abolish all remembrance of the two preceding days in which revolution in the state had been canvassed. Accordingly he passed an act of Perpetual Oblivion and pardon for everything said or done during that time and this he faithfully observed with the exception only of putting to death a few tribunes and centurions concerned in the conspiracy against guerrillas both as an example and because he understood that they had also planned his own death he now turned his thoughts towards paying respect to the memory of his relations his most solemn unusual oath was by a Gustis he prevailed upon the Senate decreed divine honours to his grandmother. Livia with a chariot in the Circassian procession drawn by elephants as had been appointed for Augusta's and public offerings to the shades of his parents besides which he instituted Circassian Games for his father to be celebrated every year upon his birthday and for his mother a chariot to be drawn through the circus the title of Augusta which had been refused by his grandmother to the memory of his brother to which upon all occasions. He showed a great regard. He gave a Greek comedy to be exhibited in the public diversions at Naples and awarded the crown for it according to the sentence of the judges in that solemnity nor did he admit to make honorable and grateful mention of Mark Antony to clearing by a proclamation that he the more earnestly insisted upon the observation of his father drew's his birthday because it was likewise that of his grandfather antony he completed the Marble Arch near puppies theater which had formerly been decreed by the Senate in honor of Tiberius but which had been neglected and though he cancelled all the acts of Guayas yet he forbade the day of his assassination notwithstanding it was that of his own accession to the Empire to be reckoned amongst the festivals but with regard to his own aggrandizement he was sparing and modest declining title of Emperor and refusing all excessive honors. He's celebrated the marriage of his daughter and the birthday of grandson with great privacy at home he recalled none of those who had been banished without a decree of the Senate and requested of them. Permission for the prefect of the military tribunes and Praetorian guards to attend him in the Senate House and also that they would be pleased to bestow upon his procured her judicial authority in the provinces. He asked of the consuls. Likewise the privilege of holding fairs upon his private estate. He frequently assisted the magistrates in the trial of causes as one of their assessors and when they gave public spectacles he would rise up with the rest of the spectators and salute them both by words and gestures when the tribunes of the people came to him while he was on the tribunal. He excused himself because on account of the crowd he could not hear them unless they stood in a short time by this conduct. He wrote himself so much into favour and affection of the public that when upon his going to Austria our report was spread in the city that he had been weighed in slain the people never ceased carson the soldiers for traders and the Senate as Paris sides until one or two persons and presently after several others were brought by the magistrates upon the Ro- Straw. Who was shared them that he was alive and not far from the city on his way home conspiracies however we're formed against him not only by individual separately but by a faction and at last. His government was disturbed with a civil war. A low fellow was found with a pond near about him near his chamber at midnight. Two men of the equestrian order were discovered a waiting for him in the streets armed with a Tuck and Huntsman's dagger one of them intending to attack missy came out of the theater and the other as he was sacrificing in the temple of Mars. Callous Acehnese and Statinias court Venus grandsons of the two orders polio and Masala formed a conspiracy against him in which they engaged many of his Friedman and slaves furious. Camillus Qorbani hones- his lieutenant in Dalmatia broke into rebellion but was reduced in the space of five days the legions which had seduced from their oath of Fidelity ringling pushing their purpose upon an alarm occasioned by L. Almonds far when orders were given them to march to meet their new emperor. The Eagles could not be decorated nor the standards pulled out of the ground whether it was by accident or a divine besides his former consul ship. He helped the office afterwards. Four Times the first to successively but the following after an interval of four years each the last for six months the others for two and the third upon his being chosen in the room of console who died which had never been done by any of the emperors before him whether he was consul or out of office he constantly attended the courts for the administration of Justice even upon such days as were solemnly observed as days of rejoicing in his family or by his friends and sometimes upon the public festivals of Ancient Institution. Nor did he always adhere strictly to the letter of the laws but overall the rigor or lenghty of many of their enactments according to his sentiments of Justice and equity for where persons lost their suits by insisting upon more than appeared to be there do before the judges of private causes. He granted them the indulgence of a second trial and with regard to such as are convicted of any great delinquency he even exceeded the punishment appointed by law and condemned them to be exposed to wild beasts but in hearing and determining causes he exhibited a strange inconsistency of temper being at one time circumspect in sagacious at another inconsiderate and rash and sometimes frivolous and like one out of his mind in correcting the role of judges. He struck off the name of one who concealing the privileges children gave him to be excused from serving had answered to his name. 's Too eager for the office another who was summoned before him because of his own but alleged affair did not properly come under the emperors cognizance but that of the ordinary charges. He ordered to plead the cause himself immediately before him and show and in case of his own how equitable judge he would prove in that of other persons. I'm woman refusing to acknowledge her own son and there being no clear proof on either side he obliged her to confess the truth by ordering her to marry the young man. He was much inclined to determine the causes in favor of the parties who appeared against those who did not without enquiring whether their absence was occasioned by their own fault or by rail necessity on proclamation of Man's being convicted of forgery and that he ought to have his hand cut off. He insisted that an executioner should be immediately sent a for with a Spanish sword and block a person being prosecuted for falsely assuming the freedom of Rome and a frivolous dispute arising between the advocates in the cause whether he ought to make appearance in the Roman or Grecian dress to show his impartiality. He commanded him to change his clothes several times. According to the character he assumed in the accusation or defense an anecdote is related of him and believed to be true that in a particular 'cause he delivered his sentence in writing thus quote. I am in favor of those who have spoken the truth and quote by this he so much forfeited the good opinion of the world that he was everywhere and openly despised a person making an excuse for the non appearance of a witness who had sent for from the provinces declared it was impossible for him to appear concealing the reason for some time at nast after several interrogatory were put to him on the subject he answered the man is dead to which Claudius replied. I think that is a sufficient. Excuse I have likewise heard. Some old men say that the advocates use to abuse his patience so grossly that they would not on the call him back as he was quitting the tribunal but would seize him by the lap of his coat and sometimes catch him by the heels to make him stay that such behaviour however strange is not incredible will appear from this anecdote. Some obscure Greek. Who was a la- tint had an altercation with him in which he called out you are an old fool. It is certain that are Rome night. Who was prosecuted by an impotent? Divisive his enemies on a false charge of abominable obscenity with women observing that Commons trumpets were summoned against him and allowed to give evidence uprated. Claudius in very harsh and severe terms with his folly and cruelty and through his delay and some books which he had in his hands in his face with such violence as to wound him severely in the cheek he likewise assume the censorship which had been discontinued since the time the powerless and punk s and jointly held it. But this also he administered of Harry unequally and with a strange heredity of humor and conduct in his review of the nights he passed over her without any markup disgrace profligate young man only because his father spoke of him in the highest terms for said He. His father is his proper sensor another who was infamous for the botching us and for adultery. He only admonished to indulge his youthful inclinations more sparingly or at least more cautiously adding. Why must I know what Mistress Yuki? When at the request of his friends he had taken off a mark of infamy which he had set upon one night's name he said let the blot however remain. He not only struck out of the list of judges but my quest deprived of the freedom of Rome and unless driest man of the highest provincial rank in Greece only because he was ignorant of the Latin language nor in this review. Did he suffer anyone to give an account of his conduct by an advocate but obliged each man to speak for himself in the best way he could? He disgraced many and some that little expected and far reason entirely new namely for going out of Italy without his license and one likewise for having in his province in the familiar companion of King observing that in former times eareas posthumous had been prosecuted for treason although he only went after Ptolemy to Alexandria for the purpose of securing payment of a debt having tried to brand with disgrace several others he to his own greeter shame found them generally innocent through the negligence of the persons employed to acquire into their characters those whom he charged with living in celibacy with want of children or estate proving themselves to be husband's parents and in affluent circumstances one of the Knights who was charged with stabbing himself laid his bosom bear to show that there was not the least mark violence upon his body the following incidents or remarkable in his censorship he ordered a car plated with silver and a very sumptuous work when champ which was exposed for sale in the social area to be purchased and broken in pieces before his eyes he published twenty proclamations in one day in one of which he advised the people. Since the vintage was very plentiful to have their casks well secured the Bung with pitch and in another. He told them that nothing would sooner. Cure the bite of a viper. Then the Saab of the tree he undertook only one expedition and that was of short duration the triumphal ornaments decreed him by the Senate. He considered as beneath the imperial dignity and was therefore resolved to have the honor of a real triumph for this purpose. He selected Britain which had never been attempted by anyone since Julius sees her and was then chafing with a rage because the Romans would not give up some deserters accordingly he set sail from Austria but was twice very near being wrecked by the boisterous wind concert upon the coast of Nigeria and near the islands called. Still Kadi's having marched by land from Marseille. To get Serena come he thence passed over to Britain and part of the island submitting to him within a few days after his arrival without battle or bloodshed. He returned to Rome in less than six months from the time of his departure and triumphed in the most solemn manner. To witness wedge. He not only gave leave to governors of provinces to come to Rome but even to some of the exiles among the spoils taken from the enemy he fixed upon the pennant of his house in the palladium a naval crown in token of his having passed and as it were conquered the ocean and had it suspended near the civic crown. Which was there before Miss Elina? His wife followed his chariot in a covered litter. Those who had attained the honor of triumphal ornaments in the same war road behind the rest followed on foot wearing the robe with the broad stripes. Crass his rookie was mounted upon a horse richly caparisoned in her robe embroidered with palm leaves. Because this was the second time of his obtaining that honor he paid particular attention to the care of the city and to have it well supplied with provisions a trend full fire happening in the Miliana Ana which lasted some time. He passed two nights in the derogatory them and the soldiers and gladiators not being in sufficient numbers to extinguish it. He caused the magistrates to summon the people out of all the streets in the city to their assistance placing bags of money before him. He encouraged them to do their utmost declaring that he would reward everyone on the spot according to their exertions during a scarcity of provisions occasioned by bad crops for several successive years he was stopped in the middle of the forum by the mob. Who so abused him at the same time. Pelting him with fragments of bread that he had some difficulty in escaping into the palace by a back door he therefore used all possible means to bring provisions to the city. Even in the winter he proposed the merchants usher profit by indemnifying them against any loss that might befall them by storms at sea and granted great privileges to those who built ships for that traffic to a citizen home. He gave an exemption from the penalty of the Papaya Papaya and Law to one. Who had only the privilege of allowed him the freedom of the city and two women the rights which by law belong to those who had four children which enactments are enforced to this day he completed some important public works which are not numerous. Were very useful. The principal were an aqueduct which had been begun by. Kaya 's an emissary for the discharge of the waters of the few sign lake and the harbor of Ostia although he knew that Augusta's had refused to comply with the repeated application of the mercy for one of these and that the other had been several times intended by Julius Caesar but as often abandoned on account of the difficulty of its execution he brought to the city the cool into plentiful springs of the cloudy and water one of which is called several years and the other courteous and Al. Boot innis asked likewise river of the new Agno in stone now and distributed them into many magnificent reservoirs. The canal from the few sign lake was undertaken as much for the sake of profit as for the honor of the enterprise for their parties who offered to drain it at their own expense on condition of their having. A grant of the land laid try with great difficulty. He completed a canal three miles in length. Partly by cutting through and partly by tunneling a mountain thirty thousand men being constantly employed in the work for eleven years he formed the harbor at Ostia by carrying out circular piers on the right and on the left with the mole protecting in deep water the entrance of the port to secure the foundation of this mall. He sunk the vessel in which the great apple has had been brought from Egypt and built upon the piles very lofty tower in imitation of the pharaohs at Alexandria on which lights who are burnt to direct mariners in the night. And that seems as good a place as any to end this evening's reading from the lives of the twelve caesars. Five Claudius written by the Great Roman biographer Suetonius. If you're interested in reading this classic work for yourself as always you'll find a link to a free e Book Version From Project Gutenberg in the show description if you'd like to connect or suggest a boring book you'd like to hear read contact me on our website at. 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"Happening with president trump and of potential impeachment. Okay too so you can know what because this is politics. This is headline news so house. Democrats introduced articles of impeachment. The president yesterday for what's called incitement of insurrection. In the wake of last week's writing at the us capitol several republicans have also said. The president should be removed from office. Although we're not really sure yet if they're going to have enough votes in the senate house speaker. Nancy pelosi says she has enough votes in house. Members of congress say they have the authority to bar public officials who specifically took an oath of allegiance to the us constitution from holding office if they engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the constitution and therefore broke their oath. And i'm hearing and it's like i don't know if you're hearing differently vo come as early as tomorrow. I mean this could happen very very quickly. If impeached president trump would lose his annual two hundred thousand dollar pension one million dollar annual travel allowance and he would lose the ability to run for office again in two thousand twenty four. Although that's in question the last point they're saying they're not one hundred percent sure if it would keep him from election because something like this has never happened. Where someone's been impeached twice. But they it's not unusual to have someone be impeached so so unusual. It's not unprecedented that Ulysses grant was also. There was an impeachment vote after he left office and he ended up getting acquitted but they were trying to impeach him even as he left office. It's just a a lot mentioned in that impeachment thing. They even talk about him tampering with the fraud and election and talking about calling to try and find votes and stuff. So i don't know it'd be interesting to see tomorrow happened. What happens if they have. The votes are not because there are people on both sides of the aisle calling for it. But it's different when you put your voice in your name to it in a vote. Yeah i just wanna give you a little warning about the content of the next thirty story. If you've got little ones in the car or listening right now armie hammer actor armie hammer. Whose name is trending at the moment and not for a good reason. A bunch of screen size so messages that he allegedly wrote were leaked publicly by the anonymous now private instagram account house of f. e. these alleged messages date back to two thousand sixteen. Some of them are as recent as last year. A time period when army was still married to his wife elizabeth chamber. So that's important to note. The explicit messages are allegedly from army's official instagram account. And the reason they're trending is because they include conversations about dsm and some really bizarre references to cannibalism in one message he writes. I am one hundred percent cannibal. I want to eat you. That scary to admit. I've never admitted that before. And though the messages are unverified the user is attempting to prove their authenticity by sharing some private photos of a man's hand that she had allegedly been sent alongside the messages showing tattoo on his ring finger. Armie hammer has a similar looking tattoo on his finger writer. Jessica henryk as who was spotted out with army at the end of last year to twitter yesterday and said she believes these screenshots are real so she's gotta know something about his his likes his fetishes. I know one. Dm exchange from february of last year. Said i will chase you down and pounce on you so fast. If you tried to walk away you'll need something strong to hold me back from you and then audio clip also surfaced on twitter in relation to this which claim to claims to be army. The man supposedly is army an in the audio. He's talking about a kink based relationship that he is in and he references. I'm fetishes and admits they might sound cringe-worthy when not in the heat of a moment Yeah well i mean you know. There's a difference in fetishes. And saying i actually each you and i'm not i'm talking about actual cannibalism. Yeah so that's weird. Yeah so if you see his name trending. that's with. That story is all about on a totally different note. Nick jonas is in talks to play. Frankie valli in a stream event performance of one of my favorite broadway musical jersey boys. megan is totally poop. Owing whatever i think is great it will be produced by bohemian rhapsody. Scream king and the original broadway producers. Along with frankie valli and bob gaudio from the four seasons. I'm not sure which platform it's going to be on That'll be announced at a later date. Obviously but it's coming. We still need to stream content. We've been through all our shows already. I know we were just talking about. What are we. watch nex. I've blown through everything. There is mad. That i'm gonna watch jersey voice when george clooney talked about using a flow. Be remember this. He's always cut his own hair. It wasn't a new thing for him to do during the pandemic. And if you're going wait what a flow behold. It's that hair cutting system that it's like a vacuum hose so george clooney mentions it. The thing sells out in minutes. I think it's still tough to get one right now. We'll man he said is he kicking himself. Should have gotten stock in that company before i Dole that story. I will you know. I didn't even think the company's still existed. Because i time we've got another one of like amazon or something new somebody else's flow behaving so now i know next on my endorsed. Something owns some stock. Before i do. I'll let you know right insider trading. I was watching meghan mccain in the clubhouse on his watch what happens live with aeko last night and she was talking about her reaction to coming back from maternity. Leave only to face. Lots of feuding a lots of words from her co host on the view. I missed everyone even if some people don't miss me i miss the show. Where a family. We've been through a lot together. And i miss being on the show to obey hard told. Shouldn't miss her. i love her. She says she hopes the show serves. As an example. For america an example that people with different opinions can coexist. I hope that we can all be examples myself included for where the country should go forward because whether we like it or not like. I'm not going anywhere on the show joys not going anywhere on the show we all have to live and coexist together just like americans right now. We're all going to try. And coexist. And i really wanna have all move forward and lashley a waitress going viral after sharing some of her experiences with celebrity customers. I always love when they do this. This user Her handle is the clumsy traveler says she spent years working the service industry in l. a. Her husband actually still does and during that time they've encountered plenty of celebs both good and bad so we have met our fair share of celebrities seven years ago my husband served christine aguilera and she was asked what she wanted to drink. She just stared at him. Gave them the evil. I looked at her manager and her manager basically had to talk to my husband because she refuses to talk to the step what recently. My husband met miley cyrus an liam hemsworth when they were still together all super nice. Like the nicest people ever and miley was like low key hitting my husband. My husband served bill nye and that guy socks seem just kind of shy and just want no attention or anything just you know totally normal except that when it was last call and he said multiple times that he didn't want him to drink he started getting really upset that he couldn't get a drink because he's bill nine one for all of today's dirty check out that dirty page on no two in the morning dot com celebrity dirt directly from the source seeds shannon's dirt on mojo in the morning.
Bad on Politics #7: Yvanna Cancela
"Hi Everyone. Welcome back about on politics I'm Grace Atwood and I'm Becca Freeman and just as a reminder about on politics is our monthly bonus episode with important political content. We just feel like leading up to the election. The stakes are too high here. So we are talking to the experts because we're not experts to get you guys answers to your questions and educate us all the important stuff and today we are. So. Excited because we're being joined by Ivana Can Selah, and she represents Nevada's tenth district in the State Senate. She was appointed to the seat in December two, thousand sixteen and became the first Latina to ever serve in the chamber her work during the two thousand seventeen session focused on drug cost transparency, and increasing access to affordable health care and as a first term legislator, she chaired the Natural Resource Committee and served on Commerce and Labor, and when not in session Yvonna works the Executive Director of the immigrant. Workers Citizenship Project she leads the state's only organization to offer free help with naturalization applications. She's also graduate of Northwestern University and twenty ten with a degree in communications, and she is a first generation college student and the proud daughter of Cuban emigrants. Welcome. Thank you. Thanks for having me and thanks for doing the series. It's really important. It's as much for us as it is for anyone else like it especially last year going into the primary as we were. So confused with so many candidates that I feel like this election cycle has only gotten more confusing. So we are so grateful to people like you to come on and break everything down for us so that we can be as informed as possible. Yeah we're so high I, will do my best. Whereas heavier here, we wanted to start off with some introductory questions. So We'd love to know a little bit more about your background and what made you decide to run for Senate in the first place. This is not something I about as a little girl I didn't have. Pictures of women politicians he stood along my all as I was growing up. I've always been politically interested but never thought being elected official would be something I did. I spent six years working as the Political Director for a major labor union here in Las Vegas and in two thousand sixteen I was really ready to have my mic drop year thought I would do everything I could to make sure that Hillary Clinton became president I would leave the union at the end of the year spent some time in Miami with my family. and. Then start law school in the fall of two, thousand seventeen and somewhere in the middle there was the potential to Wolf Auden olive farm in Tuscany, which sounded really exciting's I had this whole plan for what I live like an Wolfing for folks who don't know is when you work for room and board the we're all I was GONNA ask I didn't know. Yeah I didn't either but it's a thing and it's whole community of. Folks who will have you on their farm and you work get remembered anyway I was ready to have this plan and then trump became president and the things that I knew I really cared about a immigrant rights worker's rights women's reproductive rights. We're all going to be on the frontline of his chopping block and it felt I felt a moral imperative to do something different that will thing on an olive farm was not going to be. Not, GonNa make me feel really great when I went to bed at night and there was an opportunity to be appointed to the state Senate in it felt especially important because the federal government was going to be grid locked in a way that perhaps it had been before and was going to leave a lot of responsibility the states to take on more to take on things that maybe in the past states had not. Dowd really deeply into, and that was it was a tremendous opportunity and I wasn't sure if I'd end up deciding to run for office. I was appointed to serve out the rest of the term, and then in two thousand eighteen, I decided that I wanted to running for a full term. So I'm not up again till twenty twenty two but it's it's a life changing opportunity and what's been your proudest moment since taking off. Good. Question. I'm a big sister threw big brothers. Big Sisters I've been with my little since she was thirteen. She's mean she's awesome and she's been in foster care since she was eleven and when she was a junior in high school, she came to me and said. I don't hominy go to college. Well, we're GONNA figure this out and. Thanks to her asking that question and being willing to step out of her comfort zone testify before the board of regents and because she told her story to a number of folks who are willing to. Again, we became the thirty third state to pass the tuition waiver program for kids in foster care. You now have ten years from the time you turn eighteen to enter any of Nevada's higher education institutions at no cost. If you were foster youth by the time, you're thirteen and I'm really proud of that. It's not the it's not a thing that will go on mailers, but it's a thing that I will I'll take with me forever. That's incredible. Yeah. That's wonderful. So you also serve as a senior advisor on the Biden for president campaign. What inspired you to get involved. So I endorse Joe Biden on the day he announced his candidacy i. I felt really strongly about that I was the only elected official at endorsed him when he announced and I've been riding with Biden for lack of a better description since then when the primary season went was underway. I had a number of candidates call and talk about Nevada was awesome to know that we had such a diverse and energetic field of folks with good ideas to get out of the mess that trumpet graded and one of the people who called was Vice President Biden, and I'll never forget that moment. I was in my office in the legislature it was one of those calls where you're not sure it's real or not. So he starts a conversation we're chatting nee says look I'm. Thinking about Nevada, what do I need to non I said Mr vice-president. I'm going interrupt you for a second. Are Two fundamental things that I want in our next president leadership and loyalty. No one has done more for the Democratic Party. In the field that you have even powered young leaders to rise through the ranks you have helped every candidate who ask for your support and helped us build back the majority in the house and you're the leader for this moment, you can bring our country back together. Your sense of empathy in grace is exactly what we need in the White House so I'm. In whatever you need. I'm in and there was a kind of quiet pause afterward he said, well, thank you so much and I still really believe those things and I think they are more true now than before the pandemic started and he he will go to work on day one not needing instructions on how the executive branch works not Needing Instructions on where the keys are the file cabinet in the White House. As been there, he understands the work that needs to get done. I think that's really important and tell me a little bit about what is the role that you see a battleground state like Nevada playing in this election and what are things like on the ground there. So being about ground state means that you can't watch TV or? Stream something without getting an advertisement from some politician. It also means that there's a lot of work to be done to ensure that voters get out and not only understand the importance of voting for Joe. Biden but they understand how to vote and our job is a campaign is to do the work to answer questions about the Biden. Harris Administration. In their policies, what their vision for the country is also answer questions about whether or not you can mail in your ballot. Shin Day whether or not you can mail in ballot or if you have to go to person all of the misinformation that has been disseminated largely from the president himself as created a lot of confusion about voting and those questions are really important across the country but especially in a battleground state where we actively see. The other side working to suppress the vote and is there a way that people can volunteer help out with with swaying battleground states if they aren't from that state? Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes I love this question There are lots of ways to get involved. The don't require you being in Nevada or any other battleground state. One is we are hosting phone banks every day you log into your computer and you sit on zoom with other volunteers while making calls into Nevada and one of the I get asked a lot about whether or not. This is a good tactic. wanna-be silver linings there are silver linings to people being. At home as a result of the pandemic is that people are picking up their phones more and they're more willing to have conversations that may be they otherwise wouldn't have. So phone begging his become a really productive or more productive. This cycle than has been in other cycles, and if you just go to envy dams dot com dash events, you'll see all of our different Bailey events in also send text messages. So. If you don't like talking on the phone, you can download an APP and we'll get you texture to Nevada to make sure that they know where to go on election day you'll send them links to how to find their polling location It's actually very it's very easy to do, and if you're interested in helping on anything else maybe you're an excellent copywriter, you want to help us with social media tweets. There's a form on envy dams, DOT COM, you can fill out. During what we call late help, which is any anyone who has something that they'd to contribute to the campaign we can put them to work. That's amazing and I. I don't know if you know this but is it the same every battleground state that if you go to that state's democratic, party website that you can register tech banker make calls in a state you don't live in. Yes and I don't know if it's through the state party's website. But if you just go to Joe, Biden dot convert all sorts of different ways that it'll direct you to either stay party websites or state specific. Joe Biden. Websites so I'm hesitant to say through every State party, but there are ways to get involved in every battleground state. Amazing. So, one of the other topics that we really want we're really excited to talk to you more about is down ballot races and talking about not just the presidential race, but also congressional state and local elections. So I think we need a little bit of a government lesson I we do. I definitely took government in high school, but I actually could not answer this question if my life depended on it, can you help us to understand what types of issues are legislated at the state level versus the national level? Yes, and it's a complicated question. So taking high school government and not going to law school or it, it is complicated and having just graduated from. Law School I still struggle to understand this question because the lines are blurry depending on the issue. So generally the federal government legislates federal questions and federal law issues particularly dealing with the federal budget where it becomes murky is that a lot of the federal budget is money that gets redistributed to states. So who represents you in Congress in have a direct effect on issues that are state government Medicaid is a prime example. State sets the parameters for Medicaid outside of the federal mandates committee decisions on which optional programs. For example, we're GONNA find state, but Medicaid is largely federally funded. So there are blurry lines did simplify it the best way to think about it. Is through the example of the roads you drive on if you're in your home and there is a road in front of your house and there's a pothole in it the most likely to fix that awful works in municipal government you live in a city, your city council person you work in a county, your county person if the pipeline under that road is broken, you likely have to go a step above to your state transportation, agency that's an issue that would get regulated and funded by the state. If what you're looking to do is figure out how to live in a totally different area like you wanna live in a Republican district instead of democratic. District. Redistricting issues that also goes to your state legislature, and then if what you're interested in is your Rhode being totally redone in Glitz and glamour you WanNa have roads that now lied to drive on the left side of the road instead of the rights either vice versa that is like a federal issue you want the whole country's loss changed, and so as a state, we deal with everything from taxes to animal trapping and Nevada we meet every other year for one hundred twenty days to deal with those issues. Okay and can you give me some more examples of things that we might not know that are actually legislated at the state level and not the national level? So some things that that came up last session yet whether or not pharmacist can prescribe birth control so that you don't have to go through your doctor. You just go your pharmacist state legislature would make that decision whether or not. There's an increased taxed on things like cigarettes vaping products that goes through a state legislature whether or not. Katie lenders are able to offer three hundred percent interest rate loans are free percent interest rate loans that goes through a state legislature whether or not. There will be rent control or any sort of rent caps or tabs on late fees related to housing or anything related to evictions Baco through. State legislature how fund unemployment. System so that they're able to meet the need of folks for unemployed back goes through a state legislature. Those are some examples of issues that are really relevant right now because of what folks are going results of the pandemic that a state legislature has almost so authority to. Govern on. Okay. I the the the birth control and pharmacists one. I had no idea that's like really wild to me so. Now that we understand a little better kind of wear, the lines are I wanNA. Start at the national level because I know one of the big priorities in this election is to flip the Senate I'm curious. Are there any Senate or even just congressional races at national level that you're watching really closely I'm really watching what's happening in Kentucky and hoping that Mitch McConnell ends up unemployed after the election I would love to see him lose to lose to a tough woman like amy McGrath would be a big deal. There are contests in. North Carolina in Maine that I'm also paying attention to I'm really interested in. What's happening in South Carolina. There was a debate there over the weekend and I thought the Democrat did a really excellent job. So there's a number of Senate, races that I think the Senate in play I would be lying if I didn't admit that I almost have tunnel vision for Nevada politics right now. But definitely keeping a peripheral eye on what's happening across the country in the same way that you text bank, you phone bank at the presidential level. It does that also exist on Senate campaigns like is that a way that you can get involved as well if you're particularly invested in, say getting Mitch McConnell fired. Totally, and there are two ways with that you can get involved in some of the down ballot races. One is to get involved directly with the Democratic Party in that state generally each state runs what's called a coordinated campaign so that when you're talking about Joe Biden Comma Harass, you're also talking about said candidates to the degree there is one. Arizona's a prime example where every chance to pick up a Senate seat. So and then you talked about in congressional offices, any other down ballot contest so that you can text bank for all the Democrats at once you can also, if there are certain issues, you really care about their politically affiliated groups that are running campaigns as well. So if you really care for example about lgbtq equality than. Human Rights Campaign may be a group that you get involved in and they're running tax banks across the country taking the time to figure out which groups are doing work on the issues you care about aligning with them is another way to get involved in the election. Is it too late? That's a question that I've heard other people ask we only have about well less than a month until the election. Is Getting involved. Now going to be helpful. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. There is no such thing as too late when it comes to the election especially because every single vote matters. So getting involved now, getting involved a week from now, all of it makes a difference especially because you could be the conversation that moves voter from saying I'm sitting this one out sank. Get it. This is important and I'm GONNA go vote. So no such thing as too late, and if you schedule it the same way, you would a- conference call or any outing and you put in two hours a week to tax banker phone bank it matters it makes a difference and you can then wake up on November four th the day after the election feeling like you did your part so. Of the national and the State Senate House races what about other down ballot races that we should be? Ourselves on in advance of Election Day. Like on District Attorney for example, definitely all use. Nevada as an example to extrapolate folks across the country should be paying you something. I'm really proud of that. I will forever hold his. A moment of pride is that has the country's first and only majority women legislature are more. Legislature Yeah. It's pretty cool. and. It's a result of a lot of women stepping up and saying, we think we can do this true and we want run in voter saying we agree it's an example of what happens not only when people step up and run for office who maybe had never thought about it before. But also what happens when voters understand the importance of down ballot reaches? Here's the. Temptation to check the box for President Vice President maybe you do federal races and then move on and it's a mistake because the folks who are down ballot oftentimes are making decisions that more closely relate to your day to day life particularly in the judicial races in municipal races and in state legislative races. One of the easiest ways to understand to know who represents you. If, you put into Internet search engine. Who's my legislator Alabama? Nevada most every state has an enter your address site where you can put in your address and find out everyone who represents you at different levels of government and then but those folks into search engine research about them read about the things they care about if you disagree with them. Over someone else if you agree with them, vote for them and also get involved in their campaign because it's likely that they are dealing with them volunteers shortages because more people are going to the top of the ticket races or they're just struggling to gain traction and attention and the very crowded. Ecosystem of candidates and media attention being played, being paid to more top of the ticket races. That's the easiest way to get him to understand who represents you and be involved in those races. But it goes back to this idea of understanding what issues you care about and who has control over them. So if you're really concerned about. Schools where you live then you should be paying a lot of attention to school board races you really want to be. In Justice Reform and folks like district attorney and the judge is on the ballot should be of high priority you up. So looking at the ballot, that way and thinking of what do I care about what power do these folks have over it and filling in your ballot from the bottom up so that you're making sure that you are making your voice heard at every level representation is there a way to get a preview of your ballot? So I I hear you're saying that you can look up who already represents you but in terms of WHO's running, is there somewhere that you can see that in advance I know I've gone into the voting. Booth before and felt totally overwhelmed for I've never heard of any of these people and I usually just vote the ticket because it will say whether they're Democrat or Republican. But frankly I don't know anything about any of these people because I don't have the time to pull out my phone in the voting booth and and look up each and every one of them. I feel the same I was like so relieved when I got my absence ballot and I could like look everyone often like Google them. Yes. So in Nevada sample ballots before about two to three weeks before the election, and that's awesome because you have time to do the. Searches and research on folks. One of the ways that you can, there are lots of different shortcuts you can use to generally understand who candidates are and certainly hardy. Party affiliation is one of them I, for example, when I. When I don't know who race I generally vote for the Democrat because I know that they at the very least align of democratic values, even if we may disagree with certain issues within the Democratic Party. Another way is to find groups that represent your views on issues that are important to you. So if women's reproductive rights are really important to you and planned parenthood generally makes endorsements in races all down the ticket nee role does the same thing if it's really important to you to have a candidate that is or labor justice than unions and AFL CIO also make endorsement. So it's a good way to understand. Do the groups that for the things I care about also see this person is being on our team and it's why endorsements in political campaigns are. So we're GONNA and so in Nevada, do they just send you a sample ballot in advance or do you have to request it? How do you see a sample ballot if your state offers that I'm I, I guess you would go through your elections registrar are. Generally situated at the county level you go through Your County Elections Department or through secretary of state in every state the secretary of state is tasked with a running elections. In Nevada, the county registrar sends out a sample ballot, every registered voter so that you can see what your ballot will look like, and then when you go vote, you take your sample ballot with you match what's on your sample ballot to. The ballot onscreen. That's incredible. Is We don't think new. York does that because I've never received a sample ballot yeah. But that would be so helpful. Yeah. It's one of the things we do really well Nevada's voting. We agreed out a really robust two weeks early voting program or sending out mail in ballots to offer active voters this time around we have same day voter registration so that if you're not registered. To vote you can register we do we do a good job at making elections accessible in Nevada? That's amazing. So one last topic to kind of jump around a little bit that we wanted to talk about was gender and racial representation and politics. So I did a little bit of research last night and saw that seventy nine percent of us. Congress people are white versus sixty percent of the US population twenty. Four percent of us. Congress people are women versus fifty point, five percent of the US population, and especially since you are the first Latina to serve the Nevada state senate I thought you might have some thoughts and opinions on this. So wanted to hear first off from you why it is so important for there to be more women and people of color and elected positions and on how you think we can. Get there I I'm really really proud to be the first let the nine, the state Senate in Nevada I think it's it's something that will be a part of my story for the rest of my life. However, it is also a marker I used to show how important it is for progress to happen as happy relations grow it took two thousand seventeen for there to be let the not in the state. Legislature. Nevada. A really long time considering that knows are almost a third of our states population. So while I'm proud of that, I also use it as a reminder that it's my job to tear the door that was open for me off. It's hinges because it's kind of unacceptable but it took us that long to get here and the reason representation matters reason we need more people of color, we need more diverse. Is that only people who come from diverse backgrounds who've experienced different things in their lives are really capable of being owners of those stories. So no one else can talk about what it means to be transgender in America for example, better than a transgender person end hearing directly from folks are impacted by policies makes a difference because we may not be thinking as legislators. As what happens when we don't translate a certain government website into Spanish? What does that mean for access? What does that mean for communities are all these examples of our went diverse voices are inserted into decision making we make better decisions and I think it's it's great to know that we have more women in. Congress than ever before I. Love that in Nevada we have the first let the US senator, Catherine, Cortez Maskco I, love that we have a majority woman Supreme Court that there are. More women leading our major cities are men they're all these markers of progress in Nevada and across the country and I go back to what Ruth Bader Ginsburg wants talked about when she was asked how many women should there be on the supreme. Court and she said nine why should that be striking to anyone when they're been nine men on there for a long time? All that sad it is. Typically folks are under represented in politics that have the hardest points of entry into politics and. So it's important to not only open up spaces for people who are typically under or not at all represented to be training for running for office to have a support system to run for office and so if you have someone in your network, who you think is a fabulous leader who should be thinking about thinking about running for office don't be afraid to plant those seeds and say I think you're the leader that our city knees I. Think you're the leader that our state needs because. That kind of support really makes a difference as to whether or not a person will decide to even open up their life to think about running for office I know after the twenty sixteen election, I saw a lot of organizations pop up around getting more women to run so like she should run or other similar organizations to those also exist for other groups, like for instance, for transgender people or blacker or Latin people. Yes. There are groups across the country based on ringing in diverse voices. And, they're doing work on the ground in communities that. Have overrepresentation of White Weiss says that may have a majority black population I. Think for example of the work that was done organizing around Ferguson. City Council races announced firing. It was to see a change in that city. And it's one example of what are many opportunities that have been seized upon by groups. To, really ensure that diverse voices are leading. In places where the population it looks more Brown or black or indigenous than it does white I'll have to look some of these up because I think that somewhere where I'd. Want, to volunteer money to support them if not, you know being able to be part of them because I'm not a part of that group Yeah Gray, and what are you seeing in the current election cycle with regards to diversity? Is this a more diverse election than previous years? Are there specific races that you're particularly watching closely with this lens? I love that Vice President Biden chose Comma Harris as his running mate that we have a woman who is black? WHO's the daughter of immigrants who has South Asian. At the top of our ticket is so. I it's just tremendous. Hearing, her gave her acceptance speech at the convention I got really emotional because I saw myself in her. I saw about I saw my parents story of coming to this country. I saw what it means to ice for every opportunity you have something to be the only woman often be the only woman of color in rooms. So for me, one of the most inspiring people that will be on most every American's ballot is Senator Kamla Harris aside from. That I'm really excited in Nevada that we have just as many women running as we have in previous cycles. In that, we have an opportunity to keep our majority women legislature we have it took us until two thousand nineteen to have a woman leading the state Senate the state's first majority woman majority leader, her name's Nicole Cannizzaro. She's the first woman to lead the state Senate. I'm really excited to make sure that she gets reelected and there are. A handful races that I'm I'm really excited to see women up in particular, but to also see people of Color in the South Carolina Senate race is a prime example of where we have a black man taking on Lindsey Graham. That's huge, and we have a graphic prepared to take on Senator Mitch McConnell in Kentucky these active really a big inspiration I think are worth investing our energy and his volunteers and our time in as voters couldn't. Agree more. Thank you so much for doing this with US I. Feel Like I learned a lot and I, also feel really inspired like it was just so great to talk to you. I also feel inspired inspired knowing that it is not too late that even if I haven't done any text banking or phone banking yet that starting now can still help. Yeah I just texting training. So I'm excited to do it but I haven't done anything yet so. So. 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NPR News: 01-14-2020 8AM ET
"Live from NPR news in Washington. I'm Korva Coleman Defense. Secretary Mark Asper tells. NPR The US has the constitutional authority to strike Iran or its proxies axes if US forces are attacked. NPR's Bobby Allen reports officials say the chance of this has diminished and as per says the region is being monitored esperer comments MPR come as both Iranian and American officials indicate that the confrontation between the countries appears to have settled down however Espera says a military response could still still be triggered as spur. Also double down the basis for killing running general Qassam Sulamani saying the kids force leader had large-scale plans that would have caused open hostilities. NPR's NPR's Bobby Allen. Britain France and Germany saved their triggering a dispute mechanism that is part of the Iranian nuclear accord officials say Ron is not meeting eating its commitments. President trump withdrew the US from the nuclear accord and imposed sanctions on Iran. It's possible that European nations could also impose sanctions Shin's on the country house. Democrats are meeting today to discuss which members will represent them in an upcoming Senate impeachment trial. NPR's Kelsey he's no reports. The House is expected to vote this week to officially appoint managers and transmit the articles of impeachment to the Senate House Speaker. Nancy Pelosi locie is ending a weeks. Long delay in wrapping up the House Impeachment Proceedings Republicans have criticized Pelosi for refusing to hold the votes necessary to start the Senate trial L. Pelosi told. ABC's this week that she feels the delay was necessary to try to highlight or expectation that the Senate process will not be fair. We wanted the public to see the need for witnesses witnesses with firsthand knowledge of what happened documentation which the president has prevented from coming up to the Congress as we review this once. The House votes and managers are appointed. The Senate can begin preparations for a trial Kelsey Snell. NPR News Washington Santon. Oklahoma is suing some of the nation's largest pharmaceutical drug distributors from Member Station K. G. O. U. Jackie forty-eight reports the state it alleges the companies failed to report suspiciously large opioid orders to authorities Oklahoma Attorney General Mike Hunter contends. That some of the industry's these titans. mckesson Cardinal Health and Amirah source burgeon helped fuel the state's OPIOID crisis by ignoring red flags. Hunter said at a press conference that the companies are liable for an unspecified amount of damages. Because they should have known big orders of hills were being diverted and abused. This companies may billions of dollars spy supplying massive and unjustified quantities of opium woods leading to oversupply diversion addiction and overdose deaths. The drug distributors have already paid hundreds of millions in settlements so far for NPR news. I'm Jacky Forty in Norman. Oklahoma you're listening to NPR news from Washington in Puerto Rico. The power has been restored to most of the island following a series of powerful earthquakes. Strong tremors that shook the island last week killed a person and collapsed. Buildings Puerto Rico is still experiencing them. There have been hundreds of earthquakes in the past few weeks and some today officials in the Philippines pins have evacuated about thirty thousand people as the tall volcano near the capital Manila continues to spew gas and heavy ash. NPR's Julie McCarthy earthy has more the stark warning from Philippine scientific authorities remains in effect a hazardous explosion. Tall volcano is possible within hours or days as there's been continuous eruption of the main crater and it has generated a five hundred meter tall fountain of lava. The volcano is emitting tons of sulfur. All for dioxide since Sunday the number of all Canada quakes exceeds two hundred authorities say the intensity of seismic activity probably means magma is continuously continuously pushing to the surface and could lead to further eruptions. Authorities reiterated the call to evacuate with a nine mile radius of tall residents have heeded heeded the warning and cities in the shadow of volcano. Are Now virtual ghost towns Julie McCarthy. NPR News Manila American film director Spike Lee. Ed has been named the president of the prestigious jury for the Twenty Twenty Cannes Film Festival. He's the first black person to hold the position and says he is shocked. Happy surprised is an proud Lee. We'll succeed Mexican director Alejandro Injury to I'm Korva Coleman N._p._R.. News in Washington.
NPR News: 12-23-2019 5PM ET
"Live from NPR news in Washington. I'm Jack Speer. Negotiations will continue into the holidays about the parameters of the Senate impeachment trial the House of Representatives has not technically transmitted articles when Peach Mint to the Senate. NPR's Tim acas more Senate majority leader. Mitch McConnell raised Sti- Browse in an interview on Fox Monday morning saying he hadn't ruled that witnesses in coming Senate trial he had previously stated that he did not want any witnesses to appear here meanwhile his Democratic counterpart Chuck Schumer elaborated on the document requests. He thought would be necessary for a fair trial. Schumer argues that the White House House and trump administration's documents deserve as much attention as witnesses. The articles of impeachment will not be transmitted to the Senate until after the house names names. It's impeachment managers. Those who will argue their case before the Senate House Speaker. Nancy Pelosi said she will not do that until the details of the trial are set to Mac. NPR News Washington as millions of Americans out for the holidays heavy rain is wreaking havoc in parts of the south. NPR's Debbie Elliott reports flood watches and warnings are in effect for parts of Louisiana Alabama Georgia and South Carolina flooding stranded motorists and closed roads in Charleston South Carolina where forecasters say a combination of coastal high tides and torrential rainfall caused flash floods. The city is using pumps to help clear the water and Atlanta several. The trees were down due to the wet soil and high winds blocking roadways. The heavy rain in Florida caused flight delays and cancellations at the Fort Lauderdale. Hollywood International L.. Airport forecasters say creeks and streams are on the rise across the region. DEBBIE ELLIOTT NPR. News Arabia has sentenced five people to death for the killing ailing of Washington Post columnist. Jamal Kashogi Kashogi grisly killing at the Saudi consulate. An Istanbul last year sparked international condemnation killing drew suspicion about the involvement of the Saudi Royal Family and Crown Prince Mohammad. Bin Saw Mon Stefan Dejoras is a spokesperson for the UN secretary. General and says there's concern more investigation should have been done. The secretary general continues to stress the need for an independent and impartial investigation into the murder to ensure full examination of can and accountability for human rights violations. Committed in the case. Kashogi is believed to have been dismembered after being killed inside the consulate. He was a vocal critic of the Royal Family. Boeing housing today. It's CEO is stepping down with a crisis continuing amidst the grounding of the company. Seven thirty seven Max. Jet Boeing says Dennis Muilenburg will leave immediately to be replaced next month by the boards. Current Chair David Calhoun the seven thirty. Seven Max has been grounded since early this year. Following two fatal crashes ashes they claim the lives of three hundred and forty six people on Wall Street. The Dow is up ninety six points today you're listening to NPR. A popular author of Romance Novels has died at the age of sixty seven as NPR's net. It'll be reports Joanna. Lindsey was being treated for lung. Cancer answer she wrote fifty five bestselling romances and sold more than sixty million books over the course of her career Joanna. Lindsey picked up writing as a young housewife. Her first book was was published when she was twenty five years old. Captive bride concerns the not entirely consensual relationship between a handsome but cruel Arab share and a passionate but submissive. English should venturous that template word for Lindsey whether set on the barbary coast the Wyoming frontier or in outer space. Join Lindsey was part of a group who redefined the bodice ripper by sexing them up in the nineteen seventies. Her books often featured a shirtless Fabio on the cover and were part of a romance renaissance. That at one point made up around forty percent of mass market paperbacks barbeques Joanna Lindsey October. The family was too distraught to make an announcement earlier according to one of her sons Netto Ulaby. NPR News Is Walt Disney shares took a bit of hit today after a worse-than-expected opening weekend for the company's final film in the latest star. Wars Trilogy Star Wars. The rise of skywalker industry analysts had forecast. Its first full weekend in theaters. Movie would take in about two hundred million dollars but at one hundred seventy five and a half million at fell short still. It was good enough enough to rate as the third largest weekend release of this year with the coming holiday period expected the rise of Skywalker will dominate the year's most lucrative week of movie going on Wall Street crude oil futures prices up eight tenths of barrel to end the session at sixty fifty two a barrel in New York I'm Jack Speer N._p._R.. News in Washington.
Best of 2019: Emperor Commodus Pt. 2
"Roman Emperor Communists had wanted to inaugurate the New Year of one ninety. Three by emerging from the gladiator's eaters barracks clad in armor leading a charge of the city's fiercest warriors he'd shirked the traditional purple robes of royalty. He wanted everyone to know he wasn't like other emperors. He was undefeatable instead in the final hours of the year. One Ninety two. The gladiator king was strangled by the very man who taught him to fight as communist Gurgle his last breath. Narcissus pulled his arm from the emperor's neck. He slipped beneath the bathwater. His bloodshot eyes looking up at his assassins. Like a gutted fish. Narcissus looked back at Marsha who was still holding the bottle of poison wine. The emperor was finally dead but his legions of soldiers. The jurors were not. If MARSHA and Narcissus didn't act fast they would be the next targets for assassination. Aw One death can change the world. At least that's what assassins believe breath. Welcome to assassinations on the par cast network every Monday. We examined the famous assassins of history and the men and women who were assassinated. I'm I'm your host bill. Thomas and I'm your host Kate Leonard. This is our second episode on the Roman Emperor Communists who was killed by his mistress Marcia Marsha and his trusted wrestling coach Narcissus at podcast. We're grateful for you our listeners. You allow us to do what we love. Let us know how we're doing reach out on facebook and Instagram at podcast and twitter at Har Cast Network. And if you enjoy today's episode the best way to help us is to. I believe a five star review. Wherever you're listening it really does help us? We also now have merch head to park cast dot com slash merch for more information emperor. Communists is rule was the beginning of the end end for the Roman Empire in the last years of his reign. His deepening paranoia had caused him to start executing people at a whim. Aristocrats STA Kratz statesmen even his own advisers his favourite mistress. Marcia had been the only one able to temper his insanity but even his patients for her wore thin when Marsha discovered her own name at the top of Communist is kill list. She devised a plan to save herself from the emperors madness but even with Communist gone Marsha and her co-conspirators. Were still in great danger. Everyone in Rome hated did accommodates everyone that is except for his soldiers under his corrupt rule. They were allowed to indulge in all the looting violence and and debauchery they desired. They didn't want anyone to take their benefactor away from them. Soldiers warn calmness about every previous attempt on his life and and insured the would be assassins. Were punished if they discovered Marsha and Narcissus at the scene of the murder they would meet out swift and brutal revenge. Early on New Year's Day in one ninety three Marsha and nurses summoned to collect dues the Chamberlain and lightouse the head of the PRAETORIAN Orien- guard they'd been in on the assassination plan. Their names were on the top of the execution list. To now it was their time to help. Excellent twos knew they had to dispose of the evidence before anything else could be done. But how are they going to smuggle the emperor's body out of a palace crawling with soldiers collect do summoned his loyal servants and told them to bring the emperor's dirty bed linens they wrapped communists in sheets and heaped him into a basket ask of dirty laundry. It was the early hours of the morning. The Palace guards were half asleep wearily leaning on their spears. No one batted an eye as the two. Slaves hurried past with an unusually large pile of laundry communists who had come into the world swaddled in the purple robes of royalty was carried read out of his palace in sheets filthy with his own bile once outside. They did the body into a wagon and road to the outskirts of the city when they they were far enough out they none of the heap of sheets into a gully and left it for the wild animals back at the palace Marsha ECLECTIC use in lightouse had moved on to the next problem. Explaining Communists is sudden death after some debate they came to the perfect solution. He died of a stroke. Anyone would believe that. With his heavy drinking and constant orgies he'd been in less than ideal health for a while now but before. They made the announcement they needed to have someone ready to fill the power vacuum someone with the wisdom and experience to restore Rome to its former glory. Three and someone who wouldn't investigate the fallen emperors death to thoroughly. They decided to seek out pertinent X.. Pertinence was the the urban prefect essentially the city administrator of Rome he was a former senator. A renowned military hero and most notably the last last-surviving advisor who'd been appointed by communists his father. Marcus Aurelius the rest. Had already been executed Percha next was universally universally loved and he lived humbly in borderline poverty. He was the perfect antidote to communist says extravagances so the conspirators slipped into to the night and made haste to per taxes house. Once they're they rattled the gate waking the porter who dozed off at his post. When the Porter quarter saw? Light who's the commander of the Praetorian Guard. Standing at the gate he immediately ran inside and woke up pertinent X.. Purchase Curtin acts and the porter came to the same conclusion. Communist guards had finally come to kill him. Personnel had watched as communists executed several of his advisors observers. He'd been expecting his own time to come sooner or later per tenax told the porter to let the visitors in. He didn't even get out of bed he he might as well be comfortable for the last moments of his life. When Marsha ECLECTIC and light tubes came in they found pertinence reclining in bed utterly serene serene he said quote for a long time? Now I've been waiting for my life to end in this fashion and I was surprised that communist was so slow to the act against me. Why do you delay you will be carrying out your orders? And I will be relieved from degrading hope and constant fear the conspirators conspirators had no idea what he was talking about light. WHO's tried to explain? They weren't there to kill him. Actually they just killed communists and and they wanted pertinent to step up as emperor perch next didn't believe them he thought they were taunting an old man before cutting him down in his bed. o'clock deuce pulled a tablet from his robes. He said if you don't believe what we say. Read this tablet. You Know Communists. His handwriting you see see it. Regularly pertinent held the tablet to a candle. It was a list of names to be executed in communist is unmistakable handwriting. Sure enough at at the top of the list were Marcia. lightouse and a click tubes now he believed them pertinent set the tablet down. He was over sixty years years old in failing health and had no aspiration to the throne but he devoted his entire life to serving Rome. And if this was his duty eighty so be it once per Tadesse agreed to be the new emperor. The next step was to break the news to the soldiers. Lie To took the responsibility for that. One since he was the commander of the Praetorian Guard. The others wanted to be there to to see how they responded. Before they set out for the Praetorian Taurean camp they sent a messenger to the Senate to inform them of communist his death even if the soldiers revolted they knew the senators would be overjoyed. Overjoyed at the news. It was nearly daybreak and some of the citizens were already awake preparing for the New Year's festivities word spread quickly through the streets. That communist was dead and pertinent was taking over before dawn. The streets were a buzz with people shouting. The tyrant is dead. The gladiator is slain. Nine by the time per-tax lightouse ECLECTIC. DEUCE and Marsha walked into the Praetorian camp. Thousands of common people had gathered there our to quell any uprising from the soldiers. Light to send pertinence marched through. The joyful crowd gathered the soldiers and called them to attention. Then why twos told them quote. Commodore Your Emperor is dead of Apoplexy. You know the way. He lived his life now he lies dead choked by his own gluttony in place of combat. US We bring you a man respected for his years temperate in his way of life and and renowned for his courageous exploits. Now Fortune is giving you an emperor who is also a kindly father to you at that. The citizens exploded into into applause. After twelve years of fear and chaos. They were finally free. Order would be restored at last. The soldier stared up at personnel with cold. Narrow is he met their gaze unflinching. The older soldiers remembered pertinent with fondness. They'd they'd served with him long before. Communists came to power but there were only a few of the old guard left and the younger soldiers didn't WanNA respected temperate leader cutting off their their lifestyle of excess but the soldiers were few compared to the civilians and they were unarmed. The flood of people surrounded them cheering in support of pertinent six. The thunder of their voices drowned out any discontent from the military men. One by one. The soldiers begrudgingly touchingly joined in the throng proclaiming pertinent ex emperor. A wreath of laurels was passed through the crowd and placed on the new emperor's head as the sun finally rose on the first day of January. One ninety-three pertinent led the people and the soldiers in procession to the Imperial Palace in the streets. The people gave thanks to the Gods and called for communist his body to be dragged through the city on hooks her to Knox entered the Senate house where the senators were already gathered. The immediately turned and erupted in praise. One senator took his hand and led him to the throne pertinence. I beg the men to let him decline the position but they're cheering wouldn't subside. The old man lowered himself onto the throne and delivered his first address unquote. No ordinary task. Awaits me improving myself worthy of such an honor. Those who have grown accustomed to reveling in the extravagant excesses of tyranny not only object to any change toward a more moderate and more economical way of life but they rejected as a mean and wretched way to live. And and so you must cooperate with me and consider the management of the empire as a joint enterprise and you must entertain high hopes of living under an aristocracy. I see not under a tyranny. The Senate burst into applause. Pertinent was escorted into the Imperial Palace to begin his rain. Marsha took a deep breath letting go of the years of fear and exhaustion. She'd felt that Communists aside now it was a click to standing by her side. A man she had literally trusted with her life after a lifetime spent as a mistress manipulating men from the shadows. She'd found someone she could call. Partner collect dues and Marsha were married a few weeks later the beginning of pertinent. His reign was a time of hope and peace for the Roman empire but they would soon discover that the empire was far from safe coming up. We'll take a look at pertinent his short time time as Emperor of Rome now back to the story after pertinent was sworn in as emperor on January first one ninety three three he went back to the Senate House and thanked lightouse for his role in taking comedy out of power as he was leaving. He was confronted by the console. Falco Falco said we may know what sort of an emperor you will be from this that we see behind you light. WHO's and Marsha the instruments of comedy Medicis crimes? The public still believed that Communists had died of a stroke. No one had any idea that lightouse and Marsha were far from the loyal sycophants that once appeared to be pert next replied. You are young console and do not know the necessity of obedience. They obeyed comedies. But as soon as they had an opportunity they showed what had always been their desire and with that the first seeds of doubt about the true nature of communist his death began to take root. As soon as pertinent took the throne he set to work writing his predecessors wrongs but he was afraid the people who had benefited from communists his corruption would be reluctant to accept change. Communists had shown no interest in actually running the empire. He'd left state matters to a string of ill-chosen advisers who sold government positions to the highest bidder. Returning Rome to some semblance of a functional government would be a massive undertaking for years. The army had roamed the streets harassing anyone who who challenged their authority pertinent X. immediately forbade the soldiers from carrying axes or attacking any Roman citizens they grumbled and discontent intent but obeyed for the most part since the Treasury was drained pertinent sold off communists personal property to fund the military. He also returned turn. Land Communist had seized from farmers and exempted them from taxes and all government duties for ten years by doing so he hoped to restore the faith between the government and private citizens that had been utterly destroyed over the past decade to honor the throne as a position of service rather than a personal power. Our pertinent didn't allow his name to be stamped on imperial property. He believed everything in the palace was the property of the people not the emperor. He also didn't allow his son to live in the Imperial Palace. If his natural air wanted to succeed him as emperor he was going to have to earn it in all ways pertinent proved to be a fair generous and morally upright ruler. Ironically his virtues proved to be his downfall the pretorious soldiers had tasted unchecked power and unlimited wealth under communist and they didn't take kindly and lead the new emperor's attempts to rein them in there was so much mutiny even lie to switch starting to regret using pertinent acts as emperor. There were also growing growing rumblings. That pertinent hadn't come to power by honest means. The soldiers were starting to wonder if compasses death was something more than a stroke. Doc perhaps for this reason light who's thought it was best to get rid of the unpopular emperor before the truth came out less than three months into taxes. Rain Lie to organized a conspiracy to remove him on March Twenty Eighth One ninety-three he marched two or three hundred soldiers to the Imperial Palace Alice rather than fight or flee per tenax came out to meet them. The soldiers stopped in their tracks. Surprised by his dignity standing right beside him was a collector's he'd risked his life to install a fair emperor and he'd risk his life defending him to pertinent spoke to them and said quote. It is inevitable that every man must die someday if you are still grieved at the death of Communis remember that it is hardly surprising that death caught up with him he was mortal but if you think his death was the result of treachery the blame does not lie with me me bring charges against someone else and quote. The soldiers began to put their swords away. The power of his words had swayed them. That is all of them except one. One soldier leaped forward and yelled the soldiers have sent you this sword the rest of the men and joined in rushing forward to attack pertinent at clipped who's drew his sword and fought back wounding a few of the soldiers but he was killed alongside the emperor he'd created per to nexus head was cut off and mounted on a spear after eighty seven days. Days is rain was over. The soldiers stood at the entrance of the Imperial Palace and announced that pertinence was dead. The people erupted in grief with pertinence. Gone so was any hope for the Roman Empire the soldiers then declared with brazen than shamelessness that the empire was up for sale. They would hand over the throne to the highest bidder. That offer made its way to a nobleman named hideous. CBS Giuliani's who was having a dinner party that evening. He'd been drinking heavily but he hurried to the walls of the army camp where the empire was being auctioned off. Giuliani's shouted up to the guard tower that he had boxes full of gold and silver. There was already a man inside. The camp offering a good bid did so the soldiers didn't want to let Giuliana sin until they knew he was serious they lower down a ladder and Giuliani's ambled up to confer with the soldiers he promised to revive communists. Memory and restore the PRAETORIAN guard to their former glory. He also promised to give them. Each five thousand centralises press' more than the other bidder had offered. This soldier shouted down to the other man. How much do you raise him? The barter for a while raising their bids by five thousand ancestors is at a time screaming their offers over the camps wall. Finally Giuliani's one out before nightfall. Giuliani Alanis was led to the Imperial Palace where pertinent XS corpse was still lying. This time the procession was met with public ridicule not celebration. The people were disgusted at how low the empire had fallen. The senators were disgusted to but they were too afraid to do anything about it. Concerned they'd be killed like pertinent. They paid their respects to the new emperor with careful composure. Outside the Senate House. A mob corrupted shouting that he'd stolen the Throne Giuliani's came out and offered them bribes to but the people chanted together. We don't unwanted. We won't take it. Giuliani has ordered that the protesters be slain by March thirtieth. One Ninety three Giuliani's formerly you became an emperor. He immediately returned the palace to the same drunken debauchery it had known under Communist. PERTINENCE is reforms were reversed wjr. The soldiers once again revelled in excess looting houses all day and drinking all night. The people still openly reviled Giuliani's but as long as the army was on his side. There was nothing to be done. This state of affairs lasted for about a week. And then the soldiers began to realize Juliani. This wasn't quite as rich as it claimed to be the drunken bids he'd offered them were far more than he was actually able to pay soon. The soldiers had join the civilians and mocking and insulting Giuliani's. Whenever he appeared in public there was now absolutely nothing protecting the emperor from removal hearing about the chaos in Rome generals from the provinces of Syria Britain and Pannonia saw an opportunity to seize power septicemia severance virus? Who in Pannonia was physically closest to Rome marched his army towards the city? Ready to take the throne by force. It had been less less than two weeks since Giuliani's became emperor when severance is troops arrived at the city gate. The Roman people were as the historian Herodian wrote understandably standardly dismayed by the unexpectedness of this development but they hated Giuliani's too so they didn't see the point in fighting back. The people greeted you did the invading forces with Laurel branches and welcomed them in Giuliani's fortified himself. In the palace he sent the PRAETORIAN soldiers out to meet severances army but they'd spent the past decade drinking and thieving not training for battle. They were too weak to put up much of a fight with the enemy. emme already in the city and the Senate soldiers and public turned against him. Giuliani's had no idea what to do. He grew paranoid just just like communist before him and like comedies. He put Marsha and lighters at the top of his execution list. It had long been suspected that Marcia Narcissus and lightouse were behind communist sudden demise and everyone knew that light who's had led the attack against pertinent Juliana sphere the old conspirators were plotting to overthrow him as well. In April of one ninety three Giuliana sent a platoon of soldiers gers to marshes home. It only been a couple weeks since collectors had been killed and Marsha had hoped to grieve him in peace but it appeared. She'd be joining her husband. Sooner than anticipated Marsha Narcissus and lightouse were halted the Imperial Palace and forced to their knees Julie. The honest stood before them and address the gathering crowd. He said that he was the strongest emperor to ever take the throne and that any citizen who pledged their loyalty to severance would be treated the same. As traitors who had killed communists Juliana s drew his gladys the Royal Sword Inlaid with gold was was only meant as a symbol of authority. It wasn't meant to draw blood but ever since communists had come to power. The Roman Empire had been ruled by blood. Marsha who had caused the fall of one. Mad King was killed by another incarnation of the same madness. The fate she'd she'd sought to avert was unavoidable. While Giuliani was executing communist assassins severances troops had reached the Senate House by the end of May. The senators voted to execute Giuliani's and install severance as emperor. He'd only ruled for sixty six EXC days. This was the third Roman emperor dead in only four months however the chaos was only beginning over the next few months. The Roman empire was torn apart as generals battled for control of the throne. One Ninety three became known as the year of the five emperors for the number of men who laid their brief claim to the throne after a few years of civil war. Severance came out the victor. In the early two hundred he restored a brief peace to the Roman Empire and was eventually succeeded by his two sons and two nephews all of whom were eventually assassinated but Rome was already on its way to collapse by two thirty five. The Empire's unity began to fracture leading to a period of near collapse called the crisis of the third century. By four seventy six Rome's western empire had totally fallen Communist says death marked the beginning of the darkest most chaotic chapter dirt in Rome's history. But what might have happened. If comedies hadn't been assassinated would the outcome have been any different. Aw coming up. We'll take a look at how history might have been changed if communists head lived now back to the story. Comedy is twelve year. Reign brought the Roman Empire to the brink of collapse but his assassination sparked a year of even more severe turmoil and civil war. It's hard to say whether anything would have ended differently if the assassination hadn't succeeded. Aw Communist was hated. By nearly everyone in the empire it's very likely that if the conspirators hadn't ended his life on December thirty first just one hundred eighty to someone else would have done the deed sooner or later but it wouldn't have happened before comets got around to killing everyone on his New Year's execution acution list which apart from his assassins included the newly elected consuls all the remaining advisors his father had appointed and many any prominent members of the Senate. It's quite possible that once communists had slaughtered all the other powerful statesman he would finally destroyed the Senate and declared himself the sole ruler of Rome returning the Empire's government to an absolute monarchy. That damage to the balance of power would have been extremely difficult to undo you. Even if communist was eventually removed without anyone to rein in comedy suspending the Empire would have continued to hemorrhage money. His extravagant lifestyle and poorly considered policies head already bankrupted. The treasury and the city's infrastructure had already been crippled by famine damn and fires communists had never shown any interest in governing. And if he let these problems continue to go unchecked Rome probably would have collapsed on itself solve within a matter of decades. If the empire didn't decay from the inside out it would have been decimated by an invading army during Warren. Communist is rain the barbarian forces in what would become modern day. Germany had begun attacking the Roman empires outlying provinces commoditised largely ignored this problem and left the generals stationed in the provinces to fend for themselves when September severance took power in one ninety the three he sent more forces to fight the barbarians fending off a full scale invasion without that support from the capital. It's likely the barbarians would have succeeded succeeded in overtaking Roman territory and if Rome itself was in disarray they may have overthrown the entire empire. This brings us to an interesting adding point. Once communist took the throne the eventual fate of the Roman empire was already sealed in the end. It may not have mattered. If if or when communists was removed from power He'd already set Rome on the slow path to collapse. The most serious impact of Commerce's rain was the normalization of corruption. As we saw in the months following his death once Rome was used to bribery the execution want and spending it was impossible to steer the course back to the way things were before when communists died it led to a year of chaos several years of civil war and decades of crisis a near collapse if he had lived it only would have expedited the fall of the Roman Empire. Much like Marcia ECLECTIC Narcissus and lightouse Rome may have survived compass but it couldn't survive all the chaos that followed Marsha. Dimitrius may not have achieved her goal of saving the Roman Empire or even of saving her own life but on a different note. She may have accomplished something for Christianity during her time with compass. Marsha influenced him to begin the slow process us of ending the persecution of Christians. There were no edicts issued against Christians during his reign and Marsha even convinced him to release a Christian prisoners from the minds in Sardinia. Denia one of those prisoners was a young slave named callixte who went on to become pope. CALLIXTE use the first. He only served served as pope for about five years before his death but during that time he played an instrumental role in shaping church doctrine and allowing Pagan Converts verts into the Church. It was a perfect time for that policy. The Roman people had looked to their emperor for spiritual guidance and the moral decay that started with communist left mini many citizens feeling lost the instability in the years and decades after his assassination turned many people toward Christianity and because of the chaos during and after Commerce's rain public attention was diverted from the Christians. The Church was able to quietly organize and grow. Oh while everyone's eyes were turned toward palace intrigue and Civil War. The persecution of Christianity didn't entirely end with Communist and later rulers I would impose even harsher penalties on Christians but without this period of relative safety Christianity may not have been able to grow into the powerful force. It became for better or worse without Christianity in Rome the entire course of world history would be unforeseeably different for all all his ego mania commerce's life and death taught us that an emperor is only as powerful as the institutions behind him in an effort to expand expand his own power calmed his crippled the Senate Infrastructure and morality of the very empire. He ruled this eventually led to his own demise and diminished the power of the empire moving forward and by killing communists. His assassins inadvertently set a precedent of violence and political medical intrigue that through Rome into nearly a century of chaos. They fought fire with fire and in the end the entire Roman empire burned on. Did thanks for. You're listening to assassinations. We'll be back next Monday. You can find more episodes of assassinations as well as all a podcast. Other podcasts on apple podcasts spotify stitcher Google play or your favorite podcast directory. 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January 8, 2020
"Wednesday morning I'm Anna Palmer and welcome to your politico playbook audio briefing stay tuned after the show for from energy for progress. And I'm Jay Sherman with the rain one of missiles on al-Assad airbase president. Donald Trump became a wartime leader at the dawn of an election year and the contours of his ever. Changing presidency have again shifted for the last three months impeachment dominated every inch of the collective mind of Washington in played in especially outside role in the president's meudon psyche. Trump is a president who relishes fights in chaos and despite his stated displeasure with the impeachment process. He seemed to enjoy striking back at his enemies with vitriol lavishing praise and his allies. Who took his side on live television but being the leader of a nation on the brink of war traditionally requires a different skill? Set One trump is not yet shoney's mastered a president leading a war weary nation into or close to conflict typically communicates clearly measured inconsistently about the what why and the how America is at the back end of nearly two decades of watching a a steady stream of dead bodies land on cargo planes at Dover Air Force Base so the skepticism with which the country views armed military conflict is understandable and communicating about. Why you're sending troops overseas as Iran is sending missiles into airbases requires more than slagging your predecessors for what they didn't do cryptically? He tweeted at odd hours or suggesting. Democrats in Congress are anti-american. Think what you want about their policies or politics put George W the bush and Barack Obama took pains to communicate what they were doing and what they were trying to achieve when he took kinetic military action war almost deaf. Initially countries country's effort to achieve an end through measured chaos trump's entire presidency is an attempt to achieve multiple ends through chaos. It's time to see how those to blend late. Last night. Javad Zarif Iran's foreign minister tweeted that his nation does not quote seek escalation but will defend ourselves against any aggression and trump said all is well missiles launched Miranda two military bases located in Iraq. Assessment of casualty and damage is taking place. Now so far so good. We have the most powerful and well equipped military gary anywhere in the world by far will be making a statement tomorrow morning. Perhaps he'll seeking offramp. But as of last night bombs raining down on American bases thousands of US troops are again heading to the Middle East. We don't know precisely what this administration is trying to achieve the New York Times. Has this headline nine for an analysis piece by Peter Baker a strategy for the Mideast that has even trump's allies scratching their heads while the post is reporting that inside the White House some some administration officials said trump messaging over the weekend including targeting. Cultural sites wasn't helpful and the Times also notes that Republicans have been praising trump since since the attack but it's unclear how will impact his twenty twenty campaign. I in playbook this morning Chuck Schumer Dick Durbin and Jack Reed sent a letter to mark aspirin. Mark Milley asking them to provide provide congress with regular briefings and documents about troop deployment plans related to the conflict in Iran. They also call them them to make clear to the chain of command. The targeted strikes on cultural sites says unlawful for bombing of all Assad is effecting Democrats plans to try to limit trump's ability to conduct military activity in the Middle East. Sarah Farris had their caitlyn. John President are reporting that. How stems plans to push a measure to limit? Trump's war powers is now influx now onto impeachment Senate majority leader Mitch McConnell's connel's announcement that he had enough votes to pass a Republican only rules package to govern the impeachment process again throws the focus onto speaker. Nancy Pelosi who we still not saying when she planned to send the articles party termed as urgent McConnell's chamber for Consideration Heather Sarah Sarah's note in a closed-door meeting with Democrats Pelosi didn't reveal a timeline for transmitting the articles of impeachment against trump to the Senate Pelosi sent a letter to Democrats that urge McConnell. The publish is impeachment rules. So Democrats could see the arena Grena in which we will be participating point managers and transmit the articles to the Senate House and Senate Democrats. We spoke to yesterday. Make it clear that they want the article sent to the Senate soon. The time is running out on this gambit melanoma and Anita Kumar had the latest on trump's impeachment strategy saying it now looks like house. Republicans will be relegated to helping out in a PR capacity at the end will not have an official role in the trial. And we've got some news. Michael Bloomberg's campaign operation has been reaching out to Casey figures to try and hire operatives with Senate and House Experience agreeance to Capitol Hill outreach for his presidential campaign sources familiar with the process. Say They are looking to move fast and are willing to pay significantly more than typical campaign salaries meanwhile also in Iran the AP is reporting that one hundred seventy six have been killed in a Ukrainian airplane crash near Iran's this capital Alex is instead scoop that trump plans to drop ten million dollars on a super bowl ad Chris Catalog. Oh and Sally Goldenberg report. Mike Bloomberg is under fire for staying away from the Democratic Arctic debate stage Elizabeth. Warren is trying to give her campaign a jolt in the final weeks before the Iowa caucus to an aggressive media tour and using on Castro has a high profile surrogate. And here's what's on tap tap for trump's Wednesday the president will receive his Intel briefing at two fifteen pm. Subscribe to playbook at politico dot com slash playbook. Our paths aren't all the same. We have different perspectives on the best way forward but on issues that matter like climate change we're more alike than we think we want want cleaner solutions. And that means working with each other so the innovators in America's natural gas and oil companies have teamed up with the country's brightest minds and reduced just carbon emission levels to the lowest generation. Learn what we can achieve by working together at energy for Progress Dot Org.
Walden, by Henry David Thoreau, Part 2
"Good evening and thank you for joining me for another boring books for bedtime. I hope tonight, selection provides all the boredom. Your busy brain needs took quiet down and let you get some sleep. So find a comfortable spot. Just your volume. Take a nice deep breath in. Let it out slowly. And off we go. For one hundred, three eating I thought it would be nice to return to one of your favorites. So let's relax on the shores of a small pond with Walden by Henry David Thoreau. First published in eighteen, fifty four. Let's pick up where we left off. Visitors. I. Think that I love society as much as most. And Tim Ready enough to fasten myself Michael. bloodsucker. To any full blooded man that comes in my way. I am naturally no hermit, but might possibly sit out the sturdiest frequenter of the Barroom. If my business called me either. I had three chairs in my house. One for solitude. Too for Friendship Three for society. When visitors came in larger and Acted numbers there was, but the third chair for them all. But they generally economize D- The room by standing up. It is surprising how many great men and women a small house will contain. I have had twenty five or thirty souls with their bodies at once under my roof. And yet, we often parted without being aware that we had come very near to one another. Many of our houses both public and private. With their almost innumerable apartments, they're huge halls and their sellers for the storage of wines and other munitions of peace appear to be extravagantly large for their inhabitants. They are so vast and magnificent. That the latter seemed to be only vermin which infest them. I am surprised when the Herald blows his summons before some tremont or asked her or Middlesex House. To see come creeping out over the Piazza for all inhabitants a ridiculous mouse, which soon again slink into some hole in the pavement. One inconvenience I sometimes experienced in. So small a house. The difficulty of getting to a sufficient distance from my guest. When we began to utter the big thoughts in big words. You want room for your thoughts to get into sailing trim and run a course or two before they make their port. The bullet of your thought must have overcome its lateral and ricochet motion. And fallen into its last and steady course before it reaches the ear of the hearer else may plow out again through the side of his head. Also, are sentences wanted room to unfold and form their columns in the interval. Individuals like nations must have suitable broad and natural boundaries. Even, a considerable neutral ground between them. I have found it a singular luxury to talk across the pond to a companion opposite side. In my house we were so near that, we could not begin to hear. We could not speak low enough to be heard as when you throw two stones into calm water some near that they break each other's undulations. If, we are merely loquacious and allow talkers. Then we can afford to stand very near together, cheek but jowl and feel each other's breath. But if we speak reservedly and thoughtfully, we want to be farther apart. That I'll animal heat and moisture may have a chance to evaporate. If. We would enjoy the most intimate society with that in each of us which is without or above being spoken to. We must not only be silent but commonly so far apart bodily that we cannot possibly here each other's voice in any case. Referred to this standard speech is for the convenience of those who are hard of hearing. But there are many fine things which we cannot say if we have to shout. The conversation began to assume left ear and grander tone. We. Gradually shaft Dr Chairs Farther apart. Till they touched the wall in opposite corners. and. Then commonly, there was not room enough. My Best Room, however, my withdrawing room. Always ready for company. On whose carpet the sun rarely fell. Was the pinewood behind my house. Did there in summer days when distinguished guest came I took them. And a priceless domestic swept the floor and dusted the furniture and kept the things in order. If one guest came he sometimes part of my frugal meal and it was no interruption to conversation to be stirring a hasty pudding or watching the rising and maturing of a loaf of bread in the ashes in the meanwhile. But if twenty came and sat in my house, there was nothing said about dinner. Though there might be read enough for two. More than if eating were forsaken habit. But we naturally practiced abstinence. And this was never felt to be an offense against hospitality. But the most proper inconsiderate. Gorse. The waste and decay of physical life. which so often needs repair seemed miraculously retarded in such a case. and. The fight vigour stood its ground. I could entertain thus a thousand as well as twenty. And if any ever went away disappointed or hungry from my house when they found me at home. They may depend upon it that I sympathized with them at least. So easy. It is though many housekeepers doubted. To establish new and better customs in the place of the old. You need not rest your reputation on the dinners Yoga. I should be proud to have for the motto of my cabin, those lines of Spencer, which one of my visitors inscribed on a yellow walnut leaf for a card. Arrived there the little house they fill. Nick look for entertainment where none was rest is their feast and all things at their will the noblest mind the best contentment has. When winslow afterward governor of Plymouth colony went with a companion on a visit of ceremony to Massa saw it on foot through the woods. And arrived tired and hungry at his lodge. They were well received by the king but nothing was said about eating that day. When the night arrived to quote their own words. He laid us on the bed with himself and his wife. They at the one end and we the other it being only planks laid a foot from the ground and Thin Matt upon them. To. More of his chief men for want of room. Pressed by and upon us. So that, we were worse weary of our lodging than of our journey. At, one o'clock the next day masses. So it brought to fishes that he had shot. About thrice as big as a bream. These being boiled, there were at least forty looked for share in them. The most edith among. This meal only we had in two nights into day. And had not one of US brought a partridge. We had taken our journey fasting. Fearing that they would be light headed for want food and also sleep. Owing to the savages barbara singing. For, they used to sing themselves to sleep and then they might get home or they had strength to travel they departed. As foreign lodging, it is true they were but poorly entertained. Though what they found an inconvenience was no doubt intended for an honor. But. As far as eating was concerned, I do not see how the Indians could have done better. They had nothing to eat themselves. And they were wiser than to think that apologies could supply the place of food to their guests. So they drew their belts tighter and said nothing about it. Another time when winslow visited them. It being a season of plenty with them. There was no deficiency in this respect. As for men, they will hardly fail one anywhere. I had more visitors when I lived in the woods than at any other period in my life. I mean that I had some. I met several they're under more favourable circumstances than I could anywhere else but fewer came to see me on trivial business. In this respect, my company was winnowed by my mere distance from town. I had withdrawn so far within the great ocean of solitude into which the rivers of society empty that for the most part. So far as my needs were concerned, only the finest sentiment was deposited around me. Who should come to my lodge this morning but a true Merrick or path Lago. Nian. Man. He had so suitable and poetic name that I am sorry I cannot print it here. A Canadian, a woodchopper and post maker who can hold fifty posts in a day. Who made his last supper on a would chuck which is dog caught. He too has heard of homer and if it were not for books would not know what to do rainy days. Though perhaps he has not read one holy through who for many rainy seasons. Some priest who could pronounce the Greek itself taught him to read his verse in. The. Testament. In his native parish far away. And now I must translate to him. While he owns the book. Achilles reproof to Patroclos for his sad countenance. Why are you in tears Petropolis like a young girl or have you alone heard some news from pithy ah? They, say that Meno eds lives he had. Son of actor and Pelaez lives son of Yuccas. Burma Don's. Either of whom having died, we should greatly grieve. He says that's good. He has a great bundle of White, Oak Bark under his arm for a sick man gathered this Sunday morning. I suppose there's no harm in going after such a thing today says he? To him homer was a great writer though what his writing was about he did not know. A more simple and natural man it would be hard to find. Vice and disease which cast such a somber moral hugh world. Seem to have hardly any existence for him. He was about twenty eight years old. And had left Canada and his father's house a dozen years before to work in the states and earn money to buy a farm with at last perhaps in his native country. He was cast in the courses. Mold. A stout but sluggish body yet gracefully carried with a thick sunburnt neck. Dark bushy hair and dull sleepy blue eyes which were occasionally lit up with expression. He wore a flat grey cloth cap. A Dingy Wall colored greatcoat and cowhide boots. He was a great consumer of meat. Usually. Carrying his dinner to his work a couple of miles past my house in a Tin Pail. Cold me. Often called would checks. And coffee in stone bottle which dangled by a string from his belt. He came along early crossing my bean field. Though without anxiety or haste to get to his work such as Yankees Exhibit. He wasn't a going to hurt himself. He didn't care if he only earned his board. Frequently, he would leave his dinner in the bushes. His dog had caught a would check by the way. and Go back a mile and a half to address it and leave it in the cellar of the house where he boarded. After deliberating I for half an hour whether he could not sink it in the pond safely till nightfall loving to dwell long upon these themes. He would say as he went by in the morning. How thick the pigeons are if working every day, not my trade I could get all the meat should want to hunting pigeons would chuck's rabbits partridges by Gosh. I could get all I should want for a week in one day. He was a skillful chopper and indulged in some flourishes and ornaments in his art. He cut his trees level and close to the ground. That the sprouts which came up afterward might be more vigorous. And sled might slide over the stumps and instead of leaving the whole tree to support his courted. Would he would pair it away to a slender steak or splinter which you could break off with your hand last? He interested me because he was so quiet and solitary and so happy with Aw. Oh. Well of good humor and contentment which overflowed it his is. His mirth was without ally. Sometimes, I saw him at his work in the woods felling trees. and. He would greet me with a laugh of inexpressible satisfaction and assassination in Canadian French though he spoke English is well. When I approached him, he would suspend his work. And with half suppressed mirth lie along the trunk of a pine which he had found. And peeling off the inner bark. Roll it up into a ball and chew it while he laughed and talked. Such an exuberance of animal spirits had he. That he sometimes to down and rolled on the ground with laughter, add anything which made him think and tickled him. Looking round upon the trees he would exclaim by George I can enjoy myself well enough here chopping. I want no better sport. Sometimes, when at leisure, he amused himself all day in the woods with a pocket pistol. Firing salutes to himself at regular intervals as he walked. In the winter he had a fire by which at noon, he warned his coffee in a hall and as he sat on a log to eat his dinner, the chicken chickpeas would sometimes come round and a light on his arm and peck the potato in his fingers. And, he said that he liked to have the little fellers about him. In Him, the animal man flee was developed. In physical endurance and contentment he was cousin to the Pine and the Rock. I asked him once if he was not sometimes tired at night after working all day and he answered with a sincere and serious look. I never must tired in my life. But the intellectual and what is called spiritual man in him or slumbering as in an infant. He had been instructed only in that innocent and ineffectual way in which the Catholic priests teach the aborigines. By, which the pupil is never educated to the degree of consciousness. But only to the degree of trust and reverence. And a child is not made a man but kept a child. When nature made him, she gave him a strong body and contentment for his portion. And prompt him on every side with reverence and reliance. That he might live out his three score years and ten a child. He was so genuine and unsophisticated that no introduction would serve to introduce him. More than if you introduced a woodchuck to your neighbor. He had got to find him out as you did. He would not play any part. Men. Paid him wages for work and so help to feed and clothe him. But he never exchanged opinions with them. He was so simply and naturally humble if he can be called humble who never aspires that humility was no distinct quality in him nor could he conceive of it? Wiser, man were gods to him. If you told him that such a one was coming he did as if he thought that anything. So grand would expect nothing of himself. But take all the responsibility on itself. and Let. Him. Be. Forgotten still. He never heard the sound of praise. He particularly reverend the writer and the preacher their performances were MIRA calls. When I told him that I wrote considerably. He thought for a long time that it was merely the handwriting which I meant for. He could write a remarkably good hand himself. I sometimes found the name of his native parish handsomely written in the snow a highway with the proper French accent and knew that he had passed. I asked him if he ever wished to write his thoughts. He said that he had read and written letters for those who could not. But he never tried to write thoughts. No could not. He could not tell what to put I. IT would kill him. And then there was spelling to be attended to at the same time. I heard that a distinguished wise man and reform her asked him if he did not want the world to be changed. But he answered with a chuckle of surprise in his Canadian accent, not knowing that the question had ever been entertained before. No I like it well, enough. It would suggested many things to a philosopher to have dealings with him. To a stranger, he appeared to know nothing things in general. Yet I sometimes saw in him a man whom I had not seen before and I did not know whether he was as wise as Shakespeare or simply ignore anticipate child. Whether to suspect him of a fine poetic consciousness or of stupidity. A townsman told me that when he met him sauntering through the village in his small close fitting cap and whistling to himself, he reminded him of a prince in disguise. His only box or an ALMANAC and arithmetic. In which last he was considerably expert. The former was a sort of cyclope -pedia to him. which he supposed to contain an abstract of human knowledge. As indeed. It does to a considerable extent. I loved to sound him on the various reforms of the day and he never failed to look at them in the most simple and practical light. He had never heard of such things before. Could he do without factories I asked. He had worn the homemade Vermont gray he said, and that was good. Good he dispense with tea and coffee. Did this country or any beverage beside water. Hit Soaked, hamlet leaves water and drank head. And thought that was better than water in warm weather. When I asked him if he could do without money, he showed the convenience of money in such a way as to suggest an coincide with the most philosophical accounts of the origin of this institution. If an ox or his property, and he wished to get needles and thread at the store he thought it would be inconvenient and impossible soon to go on mortgaging some portion of the creature each time to that amount. He could defend institutions better than any philosopher because in describing them as they concerned him, he gave the true reason for their prevalence. And speculation had not suggested to him any other. At another time hearing Plato's definition of a man up by ped- without feathers and that one exhibited cock plucked and called it. Plato's man. He thought it an important difference that the knees bent the wrong way. He would sometimes exclaim home I love to talk by George I could talk all day. I asked him once swam. I had not seen him for many months if he had got a new idea this summer. Good Lord said He. A man that has to work aside do if he does not forget the ideas he has had he will do well. May Be. The man you hoe with is inclined to race. then. By golly, your mind must be there you think of weeds. He would sometimes ask me I on such occasions if I had made any improvement. One. Winter. Day I. Asked him if he was always satisfied with himself. Wishing to suggest to substitute within him for the, priest without. And some higher motive from living. satisfied. said he Some men are satisfied with one thing and some with another. One man perhaps if he got enough. We'll be satisfied to sit all day with his back to the fire and his belly to the table by George. Yet I never by any maneuvering could get him to take the spiritual view of things. The highest that he appeared to conceive up was a simple expediency such as you might expect an animal to appreciate, and this practically is true of most men. If I suggested any improvement in his mode of life, he merely answered without expressing any regret that it was too late. Yet he thoroughly believed in honesty and the like virtues. There was a certain positive originality, however, slide eight to be detected in him. And I occasionally observed that he was thinking for himself and expressing his own opinion a phenomenon. So rare that I would any day walk ten miles to observe it. And it amounted to the origination of many of the institutions of society. Though he hesitated and perhaps failed to express himself distinctly he always had a presentable thought behind. Yet is thinking was so primitive and immersed in his animal life that though more promising than a merely learned demands, it rarely ripened to anything which can be reported. He suggested that there might be minimum genius in the lowest grades of Life However, permanently humble and literate who take their own view always or do not pretend to see at all. Or has bottomless even as Walden pond was thought to be though they may be dark and muddy. Many. A traveler came out of his way to see me and the inside of my house. And as an excuse for calling asked for a glass of water I, told them I drank at the pond and pointed they're offering till and the dipper. Far off as I lived Bama's not exempted from the annual visitation, which occurs mid thinks about the first of. April. When everyone is on the move? And I had my share of good. Luck. Though there were some curious specimens among my visitors. Half witted men from the almshouse and elsewhere came to see me. But I endeavoured to make them exercise all the width they had. And make their confessions to me. In such cases making wit, the theme of our conversation. And so was compensated. Indeed, I found some of them to be wiser than the so called overseers of the poor and selectmen of the town and thought it was time the tables were turned. With. Respect to wed.. I learned that there was not much difference between the half and the home. One. Day In particular an inoffensive simple-minded Pauper. With others, I had often seen used as fencing stuff standing or sitting on a Bushel in the fields to keep cattle and himself from straying visited me and expressed a wish to live as I did. He told me with the utmost simplicity and truth quite superior or rather inferior to anything that has called humility. That he was deficient in intellect. These were his words. The Lord had made him so. Get he supposed the Lord cared as much for him as for another. I have always been. So said he from my childhood. I never had much mind. I was not like other children. I am weak in the head. It was lords well as oppose. And there he was to prove the truth of his words. He was a metaphysical puzzle to me. I have rarely met a fellow man on promising ground. It was so simple and sincere and so true. Oh, that he said. And true enough in proportion as he appeared to humble himself was he exalted. I did not know at first, but it was the result of a wise policy. It seemed from such a basis of truth and frankness as the poor we kid popper had laid. Our intercourse might go forward to something better the intercourse of sages. I had some guests from those and not reckoned commonly among the town's poor but who should be who are among the world's poor at any rate? Guests who appeal not to your hospitality, but to your hospital -ality. WHO earnestly wished to be helped and prefaced their appeal with the information that they are resolved for one thing never to help themselves. I require of a visitor that he'd be not actually starving. Though, he may have the very best appetite in the world however, he got it. Objects of charity are not guests. Men who did not know when their visit had terminated. Though, I went about my business again. Answering them from greater and greater remoteness. Men of almost every degree of wit called on me and the migrating season. Some, who had more wits than they knew what to do with? Runaway slaves with plantation manners who listened from time to time like the Fox in the fable. If, they heard the hounds obeying on their track. And looked at me beseechingly as much as to say. Oh Christian while you send me back. One real runaway slave among the rest whom I helped a forward toward the North Star. Men of one idea like a hen with one chick and that a duckling. Men a thousand ideas and unkempt heads like those hands which are made to take charge of one hundred chicks all in pursuit of one bug a score of them lost in every morning do and become frazzled Mangy in consequence. Men have ideas instead of legs a sort of intellectual centipede that made you crawl over. One man proposed book in which visitors should write their names as at the white mountains. But Alas I have two good a memory to make that necessary. I could not but notice some of the peculiarities of my visitors. Girls and boys and young women generally seemed glad to be in the woods. They looked in the pond and at the flowers and improved their time. Men of business, even farmers through only of solitude and employment and of the great distances at which I dwelt from something or another. And though they said that they loved a rambling the woods occasionally, it was obvious that they did not. Restless committed men whose time was taken up and getting living or keeping it. Ministers who spoke of God, as if they enjoyed a monopoly of the subject who could not bear any kind of opinion. Doctors Lawyers. Uneasy housekeepers who pride into my cupboard and bed when I was out. How came that woman to know that my sheets were not as clean as hers Young men who had ceased to be young. And had concluded that it was safest to follow the beaten track of the professions. All these generally said that it was not possible to do so much good in my position. I, there was the rub. The old and infirm and the timid of whatever age or sex. Thought, most of sickness and sudden accident and death. To them might seemed full of danger. What danger is there if you don't think of any And they thought that prudent man would carefully select the safest. Position. Where Dr be might be on hand at a moment's warning. To them, the village was literally a community. A League for mutual, defense. And you would suppose that they would not go a huckleberry ing without a medicine chest. The amount it is if a man alive, there is always danger that he may die. Though the danger must be allowed to be less in proportion as he is dead and alive to begin with. A man sits as many risks as he runs. Finally there were the self styled reformers the greatest bores of all who thought that I was forever singing. This is the House that I built. This is the man that lives in the House that I built. But they did not know that the third nine was. These are the folks that worry the man that lives in the House that I built. I did not fear the Hen Harriers for I kept chickens. But I feared the men. Harriers. Rather. I had more cheering visitors than the last. Children come burying. Railroad men taking a Sunday morning walk in clean shirts. Fishermen and hunters. Poets and philosophers. In short all honest pilgrims who came out to the woods for freedom sake and really left the village behind I was ready to greet with welcome Englishmen. Welcome Englishmen for I had had communication with that race. The village. After hoeing or perhaps reading and writing in the forenoon I usually bathed again in the pond and washed the dust of labor from my person or smoothed out the last wrinkle on which study had made. And for the afternoon was absolutely free. Every day or two I stroll to the village to hear some of the gossip which is incessantly going on there circulating either from mouth to mouth or from newspaper to newspaper, and which taken in homeopathic doses was really as refreshing in its way as the rustle of leaves and the peeping of frogs. As I walked in the woods to see the birds and squirrels. So I walked in the village to see them in in boys. Instead of the wind among the Pines I heard the carts rattle. In, one direction from my house, there was a colony muskrats in the river meadows. Under the grove of Elms and but an woods in the other horizon was a village of busy men as curious to me as if they had been prairie dogs. Each, sitting at the mouth of its burrow or running over to a neighbor's to gossip. I went there frequently to observe their habits. The village appeared to me a great news her own. And on one side to support it as once at reading and companies on State Street. They kept nuts and raisins or salt and meal and other groceries. Some have such fast appetite for the former commodity that is the news and such sound digestive organs. That they can sit forever and public avenues without stirring and let it simmer and whisper through them like the tesions wins. Or is if inhaling ether it only producing numberous and in sensibility to pain. Otherwise, it would often be painful to bear. Without affecting the consciousness. I hardly ever failed when I rambled to the village. To see a row of such worthies are they're sitting on a ladder sunning themselves with their bodies inclined to forward, and there is glancing along the line this way and that with a follow-up Jewish expression or Elsa leaning against a barn with their hands in their pockets I carry out heads as if to prophet up. They being commonly out of doors heard whatever was in the wind. These are the COARSEST MEL's. In which all gossip is I rudely digested or cracked up before it is emptied into finer and more delicate hoppers with doors. I observed that the vitals of the village was grocery, the Barroom, the post office, and the bank. and. As a necessary part of the machinery, then kept bell a big gun and a fire engine at convenient places. And the houses were so arranged as to make the most of mankind. In lanes and fronting one another so that every traveler had to run the gauntlet and every man woman and child might get elected him. Of course, those who were stationed nearest to the head of the line where they good most see and be seen and half the first blow at him paid the highest prices for their places. And the few straggling inhabitants in the outskirts. Where long gaps in the line began to occur and the traveler could get over walls or turn aside into cow pass and so escape paid very slight ground or window tax. Plans were hung out on all sides to lure him. Some to catch him by the appetite as the tavern and fiddling seller. Some by the fancy as dry goods store and jewelers. and others by the hair or the feet or skirts. The Barber, the shoemaker or the Taylor. Besides. There was a still more terrible standing invitation to call it every one of these houses and company expected about these times. For the most part I escaped wonderfully from these dangers either by preceding at once boldly and without deliberation to the goal as his recommended to those who run the gauntlet or by keeping my thoughts on high things like orpheus who loudly singing the praises of the Gods to his lyre drowned the voices of the sirens and kept out of danger. Sometimes. I bolted suddenly and nobody could tell my whereabouts. For I did not stand much about gracefulness and never hesitated at a gap in a fence. I was even accustomed to make an eruption into some houses where I was well entertained and after learning the colonels and very last sinful of news what had subsided the prospects of war and peace, and whether the world was likely to hold together much longer. I was let out through the rear avenues and so escaped to the woods again. It was very pleasant when I stayed late in town. Tongue launch missiles off into the night especially, if it was dark and tempestuous and set sail from some bright village parlor or lecture room with a bag of her I or Indian meal upon my shoulder for my snug harbor in the woods having made a tight without and withdrawn under hatches with a merry crew of thoughts. Leaving only my outer man at the helm. or even tying up the helm when it was plain sailing. I had many genial thought by the cabin fire as I say held. I was never cast away nor distressed in any weather. Though I encountered some severe storms. It is darker in the woods even in common nights then most suppose. I frequently had to look up at the openings between the trees above the path in order to learn my route. And where there was no cart path to feel with my feet, the faint track which I had mourn. Or steer by the known relation of particular trees which I felt was my hands passing between two Pines, for instance, not more than eighteen inches apart in the midst of the woods invariably in the darkest night. Sometimes after coming home thus late in dark and muggy night. When my feet felt the path which my eyes could not see. Trimming and absent minded all the way. Until, I was aroused by having to raise my hand tell lift the latch I have not been able to recall a single step of my walk. And I have thought that perhaps my body would find its way home. If it's master should forsake it asked the hand finds its way to the mouth without assistance. Several. Times when a visitor chanced to stay into the evening and it proved dark night. I was obliged to conduct him to the cart path in the rear of the House. And then point out to him the direction he was to pursue. And in keeping which he was to be guided rather by his feet then his is. One very dark night I directed thus on their way to young men who had been fishing in the pond. They lived about a mile off through the woods and were quite used to the route. A day or two after one of them told me that they wandered about the greater part of the night close by their own premises. And did not get home 'til toward morning. By which time as there had been several heavy showers in the meanwhile and the leaves were very wet. Word drenched to their skins. I have heard of many going astray even in the village streets. When the darkness was so thick that you could cut it with a knife as the saying is. Some, who live in the outskirts having come to town a shopping in their wagons have been obliged to put up for the night. And Gentlemen and Ladies Making a call have gone half a mile out of their way. Feeling the sidewalk only with their feet and not knowing when they turned. It is surprising and memorable as well as valuable experience to me lost in the woods anytime. Often in a snowstorm, even by day one will come out upon a well-known Rhode and yet find it impossible to tell which way leads to the village. Though he knows that he has traveled it a thousand times he cannot recognize feature in it. But. It is strange to him as if it were a road in Siberia. Night, of course, the perplexity is infinitely greater. In our most trivial walks we are constantly though unconsciously. Steering like pilots by certain well known beacons and headlines, and if we go beyond our usual course. We still carry in our minds, the burying of some neighbouring Cape, and not till we are completely lost or turned around for a man needs only to be turned round once with his eyes shut in this world to be lost. Do, we appreciate the fastness and strange -ness of nature. Every man has to learn the points of compass again, as often as he awakes whether from sleep or abstraction. Not. Toy. We are lost in other words not till we have lost the world. Do, we begin to find ourselves. And realize where we are and the infinite extent of our relations. One afternoon near the end of the first summer. When I went to the village ticket a shoe from the cobbler's I. was seized and put into jail. Because I have elsewhere related aren't did not pay tax to or recognized the authority of the state which buys and sells men, women and children like cattle at the door of its Senate House. I had gone down to the woods for other purposes. But. Wherever a man goes, men will pursue and Paul Him with their dirty institutions and if they can constrain him to belong to their desperate odd fellows society. It is true I might have resisted forcibly with more or less effect. Might have runamuck against society but I preferred that society should runamuck against me. It being the desperate party. However I was released the next day. Obtained my mended shoe. And return to the woods in season to get my dinner of huckleberry on Fairhaven Hill. I was never molested by any person, but those who represented the state. I had no lock nor bolt but further desk which held my papers. Not even a male to put over my latch or windows. I never fastened my door night or day. Though I was to be absent several days. Not even when the next fall I spent a fortnight in the woods of Maine. And yet, my house was more respected than if it had been surrounded by a file of soldiers. The tired rambler could rest and warm himself by my fire. The literary amuse himself with the few books on my table. Or. The curious by opening my closet door see what was left of my dinner and what prospect I had of a supper. Yet though many people of every class came this way to the pond. I suffered no serious inconvenience from these sources. And I never missed anything but. One. Small. Book. Of volume of homer, which perhaps was improperly gilded. And, this I trust a soldier of our camp has found by this time. I am convinced that if all men were to live as simply as I then did. Thieving and robbery would be unknown. These take place only in communities or some have got more than his sufficient while others have not enough. The pope's homers would soon get properly distributed. Nick Bala Forint. FOGGIN ASS- A starbucks dumps Kifah US ON TAPE S. Nor wars did men molest when on the beach in balls where in request You who governed public affairs what need have you to employ sements. Love Virtue and the people will be virtuous. 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