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120619 ATJ in 30

Ace and TJ

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120619 ATJ in 30

"Are you entered to win on Radio Family Mondays each week. We'll pick a name random and read on the show sometime after seven forty five eastern call. Eight eight four one. S T J in fifteen minutes and win with Radio Family Mondays on the act TJ. Show I personally think it is completely early acceptable to give a loved one. The gift of weight loss the healthy way as a gift this year the holidays. There's a product called Calatrava. It's awesome. It's not a stimulant of any kind. It's not GonNa you know make your heart race right before you go to bed and then Have Negative interactions with your medication. Doesn't a new any of that stuff. It's just Collagen. It replaces COLLAGEN WE LOSE WITH AGE and it helps you lose weight the healthy way and addition to losing weight the healthy way there are lots of other benefits. You'll sleep better. You'll feel better helps. The joint. Pain helps with acid reflux and right now. They've got a great Christmas special. Buy Three get three a free a drive by three get three of calendar and just go to top loss. Dot Com T. O. P. L. O. S. S. DOT COM when you buy use the Promo Code as Tj Act Cat and you get free shipping your chance to lose weight. The healthy weight go to top loss dot com and order Calatrava today it Market of Charlotte North Carolina Thirty podcast. Here's your what's your humble brag that you break out any chance you get. We want those we also are going to give you the we can review and some barber drama. Let's let's get started with our first edition of the year of Santa Court. This is in theory. podcast boys a girl children. Welcome to Santa Court as Tj. Show you tell us the naughtiest thing you've done this year we will tell you whether or or not Santa would keep you on the naughty list. I'm picky on the Nice list or put you on anonymous. Everybody has asked to remain anonymous Hayes and TJ Jay. I have a story anonymous please. I came into a good deal of money earlier this year and did not tell my husband. I just saved it for myself. He is terrible with money and we have a lot of issues from the past dealing with money he tends to just want to spend spend spend not save it. I know this was wrong but I don't care Santa Court Naughty List or nice list. She came into a lot of money. Well a good deal of money. She says kept it from her husband. He doesn't know so apparently she's just saving leaving it for herself. I say She could make the judgment and put herself on whatever whatever The the decision should be by asking what she would put him doing which you consider him to be on the naughty list. He did that to her or would she put him on the Nice List. Good Way to do it. I like. I'm thinking it's naughty. Naughty and what's mine is yours. Not Girl not okay. Keep me anonymous. My boyfriend and I went through a hard time about six months ago. He left and said we're done so I hooked up with an old friend three days later. My boyfriend and I got back together. Naughty list or Nice List your I think you can still get back on the nicest because you were on a break. Yeah they called it and he wants. He said we're done okay. I'm free to do what I want. Nice list you you a naughty but you're being nice right and you didn't add another name to your list or it wasn't like you just went out and found some Rando guy you had been friends ends for a long time. Women say that it wasn't like we just met but had you ever even had any kind of romantic relationship. Aw well no but we've been friends for. He knows our could present. Okay how about this. Keep me anonymous. We just had child number three. I convinced my husband. His Vasectomy was free when really I saved cash and paid for it beforehand. The only anyway I got him to do it versus me having to get fixed now. Nine months later he's still thinks it was a special with are extremely common insurance. Free Aceh. Yeah I think that's that's nice stays on the nice list. She's still paid for it with her cash. Yes she paid for the second told him they got it because some kind of weird deal with our insurance that allowed him to get a free Secta me and so he went for it now. I know that is a very dishonest. About one of the Most Im- I duNno. You know very serious I mean surgery. It's about the way you produce children. I'm not into that at all. I think that's really naughty. Yeah I mean he because she can only but he wasn't worried about any of that he was just worried about how much it was going to call right. She could have and he wanted her to have which is a more indepth procedure for her to have it done than him Men who are afraid to have a Secta me and they want their wives to go through surgery during on that I don't I don't take this. It's way for the man if Frist frustrated you just your baby yeah. I enjoyed enjoyed mine. I love watching it. Change colors everything couch because it does it turns black and black all the way down to your knees. Okay I mean is it. It looks like somebody's dumped you all right really all you got. But he's only for a couple of days later and Chit Chat with younger and the nurse was happening Avenue Dan. You don't have to worry about when you're out messing arou- worry about getting ranchos pregnant. That's the thing I liked about it. Santa Court. Please keep me anonymous. After finding out my husband of eight years was having an affair. I used the nudes of his side. Add Ho as leverage to demand. I wanted in the divorce or I would share their dirty deeds and her nudes with the world. Can't do that girl L.. Messed up naughty list nicely this where does she end up for the end of the year. I'd say naughty list but worth it. Okay because that sounds like something I would supromega. Yeah no I wouldn't do that but I think it's guys conniving having more one more for Santa Corp Santa Court keep me anonymous just as simply I slept with my boss so we ask are either one of you married in a relationship. She said I am single. He is in a relationship of about six years Nautilus. Nice list Oh come on you. Obviously somebody yet if she knew he was with somebody in a relationship of six years knotty but if he lied to or something that I see no problem with yeah. We didn't know this but it seems to me. She clearly knew that he was in a relationship. He didn't lie about it or they just decided to hook up. Okay Yeah Naughty. Does it make the difference that she's really pretty did to me. That wow nationally never or duplicate it is the TJ in thirty podcasts. This woman in California. She's twenty eight years old She lives in Brentwood. California Wise Brentwood so famous other than Ace who knows Brentwood California so famous you do. Reagan's Reagan's you why because it's Oj was living that's right it's Nice Nice area. OJ Being Orenthal James Simpson. Yeah should've clarified that the other day Simpson not OJ Anderson. It's not the O. J.'s. Soul rb group the OJ's Her son got his haircut. He's a little boy. Got The little boy haircut At the barber shop and she didn't like it she was not happy with it so She went in arguing. Arguing with the sixty three year-old barber and the barber went out to write down her license plate number because she had gotten so crazy he was gonNA report Ford Her and she just ran over with the priests that she drives ran over him and wasn't just bump into him. Knock him down. Rammed him through the glass window of the store next to the barbershop. Oh my God. I didn't get that part. He had to have surgery on his leg because it was broken so badly she lied Cops I'm trying to track her down But you think we'll have hard. Could that be because everybody in California drives grabs a previous. So that's why they're having a hard time finding her but made that part of it would have her son's name. They know her son's name he probably Cardi got the license plate. She's probably hiding out. That's why they haven't younger Daniel. They probably know where she lives. They just can't find her right now. She's smart enough not to go home. Being may not have the son's name though and he may have gotten a partial. That's what we call it in law enforcement. We don't get the entire license number license plate number you call it a partial partial. Okay you got had a partial on the plate. She hit him and broke his. I didn't realize she hit not come through the windows and building next to his And then just picture being one of those old school stereotypical talion barbers. He's got the the red Red White and Blue Pole size I give but you have your son look good and do a crazy lady boom man. I used to get a little boys haircut until eighteen years old. My Mom and give me five bucks or twenty bucks. Just go in there for the Little Boys Haircut on my moment sixteen I got pitted. TJ When we return to the ACE and TJ and thirty podcast. We WanNa hear your humble brags and we're going to review the week for. We're not GONNA do a rigorous but that's next on the ACE and TJ thirty. PODCASTS CAST. This is the act and thirty podcasts. Out as DC ON DEMAND ON ACE and TJ DOT COM TJ APP or through heart iheartradio. Farm stand Pumpkin Porch Pumpkin Pumpkin roll. pumpkin cinnamon swirl perfect pumpkin pair. Can you say that five times fast. That's a lot of Pumpkin. And I'm Bobby Barbara Independence Director. Those are just a few of our Paul Fragrances. We have available to help you get your home ready for your holiday guest and did you know if you buy five of of our fragrance wax bars you get one free. That's right buy five. Get One free go to smells. Just right DOT com. Check out. All our warmers and fragrances. 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Selma Blair liked my instagram comment and replied so I guess you could say I'm famous now. That's pretty cool. Love Selma Blair. I'm Blair project exactly Somebody built the fountain in front of the Children's Hospital in front of the Children's Hospital in Birmingham. What must be tiny doctoral? Yeah because it's kids. I was booked on a wrestling. Show that buff. The stuff was on tap stuff but I'm sure he's a big deal oh is that buff Bagwell. Okay I have a radio and went to country Radio Seminar Nashville about eight years ago. John Rich Big big and rich rented an SUV LIMO takes to his personal resonance where he had his own bar on. The second floor. Shots were served on the elevator on the way up to a private concert where he asked me wave. I wanted a drink and I said sure so. We stood at the bar and talked while the ordered my drink. It was so cool did he. Somebody isn't he he likes. Ah He's been in a bar fight or to get from being rich. I don't know how he does political commentary. Yeah there's a guy that he got into a fight with his own impersonator senator on a cruise or something adkins. May I don't remember. He fought his own celebrity. impersonations your own celebrity and burst. Yeah because the guys trying to get like free drinks insert. It's definitely somebody told me. Yes not so not like an actual guy wasn't performing when he followed him like okay now. I don't blame them somebody. He told me yesterday that they were at some thing. And the person there that they met said that that No her thing said that I was there. She met me and I. I don't go anywhere. I said win wrench because this the other night I said what yeah. Yeah you know Zoe in the promotion. She said it was a semi. She knows that she saw me at an event. We haven't been in any event. I think she told told me that to like somebody's engagement parties. She told me that Sam. Seventy one years engage definitely ain't going to be a party cafeteria afternoon. Emily's humble Brag Eric. Church that he liked my hair at an autograph draft signing and I still bring it up take you to a Komo. This man says he sang onstage with aretha Franklin job until until until they put him back in his seat up there covered uh-huh stage storm. He got out with. You made me. These are amazing man again. I love the one like that or several. Eric charged like like my hair. That kind of thing that hurt her. I wonder if it was wild or something. He just couldn't help but notice career. I like the bird that's in it. Like Paul says. I'm a big time wrestler. Forty eight years of age show Saturday night in South Carolina in how taking a bomb spam. I once held Rod Stewart's wrist gently mind you. I'm not one of those aggressive groupies. No big deal you gotta be gentle with me one hundred years old. You're holding his wrist funny. 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Full Episode: Tuesday, February 26, 2019

World News Tonight with David Muir

00:00 sec | 2 years ago

Full Episode: Tuesday, February 26, 2019

"Tonight, President Trump arrives here in Hanoi. Amid the major headline back home, the president's longtime fixer and personal attorney gave the hot seat Mitchell college. The president be worried like co behind closed doors today tonight Senator saying they have learned do information already and Cohen is Dow set to testify before the American people he will accuse the president of criminal conduct all of this amid the high stakes of it here in Vietnam. The president has arrived. So his Kim jumped on the remarkable images the cigarette break seen around the world at tonight. The increasing pressure on President Trump willing to meet with Kim Jong UN again, but will the North Korean dictator gave up his nuclear weapons back home tonight trapped on the train passengers stranded. Almost forty hours trapped in snow in down trees and the new store we're now watching tonight the evacuations the factory going up in flames today the man accused of killing his childhood friend, the verdict tonight. After that confession was showed in court ABC, news exclusive Robert Robert with actress Selma Blair and her remarkable bravery on display tonight what she reveals about her battle with MS. And what every parent will want to hear outrage on the hill. Tonight CEOs of the major drug companies are asked why are prescription drugs skyrocketing how they answer tonight's our trip to Halong bay. What we saw for ourselves. The stunning sight off Vietnam. One of the new wonders of the world. This is ABC world news tonight with David Muir reporting tonight from Hanoi, Vietnam. And good evening tonight from Hanoi. President Trump has arrived here in Vietnam. And so has the North Korean dictator? The stakes are enormous the president willing to hold now a second summit, but we'll kin give up his nuclear weapons and all of this tonight a bit unfolding drama back home, President Trump walking down the steps of Air Force One fully aware that back home. They are watching something else unfold to his former personal attorney and fix her. Michael Cohen walking toward the Senate hearing room today to start three days of questioning tomorrow. He'll be before the American people and tonight what we've learned here. What Cohen is going to say about his former boss on his finances. His worth it is believed Cohen will accuse the president of criminal conduct. ABC's Mary, Bruce leading us off tonight with dramatic day on the hill. Michael Collin who once said, he take a bullet for Donald Trump arriving on Capitol Hill today unload on the President Mr Cohen, should the president be worried. What evidence do you have a criminal conduct live before watch congress trust you now, Mr.? Cohen he spent hours behind closed doors with the Senate intelligence committee, but tomorrow he will testify in public describing according to sources the president's quote, lying racism and cheating. And for the first time he will accuse the president of criminal conduct while in office and provide what he says is evidence a dramatic reversal for the man who stood at the president's side for a decade. Obviously, very loyal very dedicated to Mr. Trump, Colin has pleaded guilty to a host of crimes, including breaking campaign. Finance laws by paying hush money to porn star. Stormy Daniels just eleven days before the election. President Trump initially claimed he knew nothing about it. Darning? But prosecutors say the president actually directed Coen to make those payments and tomorrow Cohen is expected to say just that. For. No coen. We'll also explain why he lied to congress about at Trump Tower deal in Moscow a project. He now admits Trump's team was negotiating well into the campaign. Sources say he will also produce some of the president's financial statements, which he says show Trump made false claims about his net worth and tonight Republicans are on the attack congressman Matt gates Trump. Ally tweeting what seemed like a threat to reveal embarrassing personal information about Cohen saying Coen's wife is quote about to learn a lot witness testing, not witness tampering and witnesses come before congress, their truthfulness and veracity or question, we have the opportunity to test them. But Colin tonight is undeterred look forward to tomorrow to be able to boys to tell the American. I'm gonna let Merican. Exacting telling the truth, and Mary Bruce with this live on the hill tonight. And Mary we saw and you report right there, the president's allies on the attack against Michael Cohen and tonight, the White House lashing out, his well, David Republicans, and the White House are trying to discredit Coen's testimony by pointing out that he has lied to congress before the White House press secretary saying, quote, it's laughable that anyone would take a convicted liar like Cohen at his word, but David members of the Senate intelligence committee tonight, tell us this was a serious grilling that the Coen that showed up today was quote, a very different guy. David Mary, Bruce leading us off tonight. Mary, thank you. And we should note. ABC news. We'll have live coverage of the Cohen hearing tomorrow at ten AM eastern right here. And what is unclear tonight is if the president will be watching any of that hearing, he certainly has his hands full right here in Vietnam greeting to meet for a second time now with Kim Jong UN the president waiting from his car today and Kim Jong UN after travelling in his armored train through China then getting into a motorcade to finish the trip through Vietnam. You can see his bodyguards there jogging alongside and with hours to go before they meet now, the president tonight, and what he's now signaling about this summit ABC's giancarl right here in Hanoi with us tonight a half a world away from the political turmoil. Back home, President Trump received a lavish greeting in Vietnam. Hundreds waving American flags tremendous crowds. He tweeted so much love after nearly three thousand miles sixty five hour journey. Kim Jong Hoon stepped off his armored train in Vietnam to a red carpet. Welcome the grinning, North Korean dictator outpacing one of his aides who scrambled to keep up the journey offered. Rare. Unscripted glimpses of the reclusive leader. Japanese TV capturing him puffing a cigarette while his sister, Kim, yo Jong held a crystal ashtray in Vietnam. More familiar scene, Kim security detail, jogging alongside his armored Mercedes for summit to both leaders are hoping to achieve something. Some at one did not concrete results chemists seeking relief. From crushing economic sanctions. President Trump is saying North Korea can become an economic powerhouse. If Kim agrees to give up his nukes, but US intelligence officials say they see no sign North Korea's ready to do that the regime is committed to developing a long range nuclear arm missile that would pose a direct threat to the United States last. Year. President Trump called on the dictator to give up his nuclear weapons and fast. This president. Did he agreed indeed nuclearise, sir? Starting that process. Very quickly very very quickly. Absolutely. But this year, I'm not in a rush. I don't want to rush. Anybody giancarl with us live tonight here in annoy, John you, and I will be watching as this summit unfolds here in Vietnam. The president knows full well that is he prepares for this summit. Now, his former fixer Michael Cohen will be testifying against him on Capitol Hill. And there are reports night the president will be watching some of that hearing David Cohen will be testifying late into the night into the early morning hours here in Vietnam. But I would be shocked if the president doesn't find a way to watch at least some of that testimony in terms of the response the White House for the most part is leaving it up to the white to the president's outside supporters. But the president considers himself the ultimate counterpuncher. And you can be sure that the response that really matters. Ultimately, come from the president himself, David. Alright giancarl with us tonight as well. John. Thank you. In the meantime, there are several other stories unfolding this Tuesday night back home the race to help. Passengers trapped on an Amtrak train since Sunday trapped in heavy snow in down power lines. One hundred eighty three people stranded in Oregon for thirty seven hours with food and other supplies running out ABC's will Clark tonight with the video from inside that train tonight a crisis averted one hundred eighty three passengers thankful to get off at train that was trapped for almost forty hours. We are moving and Sidley awesome. The train was supposed to run from Seattle to Los Angeles. But came to a screeching halt when a tree fell on the tracks in rural snow covered Oregon, the hours passing food started to run short tonight. And that was the last meal that was available the situation so dire passengers were forced to create makeshift diapers for the kids on board. Luckily, it really nice lady came in and gave me some pull ups 'cause I didn't know what I was gonna do passengers singing. Sleeping in posting about their plight on social media. No one has given us any information until the media got involved, then nearly fifty hours after some stepped on board. Got bell sounding the toll of elation David has Amtrak train pulls in a Union Station here in Portland Amtrak is offering the passengers refunds and apologies. Tonight. David what an ordeal will. Thank you the dangerous storm that stranded that Amtrak train part of the system slamming the west tonight and on the move white out conditions in Springfield, Oregon. That's near Eugene, an ice and snow emergency closing schools for a second day. Now tonight, also the blast of snow hitting the Great Lakes, and that will move east chief meteorologist ginger Zee. Of course, tracking it all ginger David there evacuations tonight along the Russian river in northern California, a mudslide reported, and we've got more than a foot of rain that's already fallen so flood warnings in place there you could see another five inches in some places. The next twenty four to thirty six hours in the Sierra up to another five feet of snow. A quick look at that snow coming through from the Great Lakes through the northeast. It'll be a blast just enough to make the roads slick, David J jersey tonight. Ginger. Thank you. And from Michigan tonight, a massive fire at a plastics factory outside Detroit the evacuations, and we could see the workers getting out of that plan today as the fire was raging ABC's. Alex pres- on the investigation already underway. This raging inferno in suburban Detroit stunning spectacle in the sky. It can be seen for miles and miles the blaze in a storage area for a plastics factory in Auburn Hills. Michigan. This is crazy firefighters from multiple departments battling massive flames. I have never seen black smoke. So thick and I've never seen it from so far away plastic and metal auto park containers. Some twenty thousand storage bins, fueling the fire. Loud explosions believed to be siding crinkly and plastic burning rocking the area from our understanding that is some of the plastic containers. No hazardous materials officials evacuating employees working nearby as a precaution. David. Luckily, authorities say no one was injured the exact cause of that massive lays now under investigation. David, alex. Thank you. There was outrage on Capitol Hill today amid skyrocketing prices when it comes to prescription drugs in this country top drug company executives grilled by the Senate finance committee about the high cost Senator Johnny Isakson of Georgia who has Parkinson's disease asking for so many Americans white his medication suddenly jumped ninety dollars an organ Senator Ron Wyden with harsh words to rug makers behave as if the patients and the tax payers unlocked ATM fully cash to be extracted for their part. The CEO's warrant any government price controls would slow research. They say in common diseases. In the meantime, we turn to an ABC news exclusive tonight extraordinary bravery from the face many will know about her battle with MS actress Selma Blair speaking on camera for the first time about her personal struggle MS affects as many as a million Americans. It's a chronic often unpredictable disease of the central nervous system involving the brain spinal cord and optic nerves and causing problems with vision balance and muscle control, it affects so many in different ways, and it can often be debilitating Robin Roberts with some Blair. And what she wants everyone to know. An emotional return to the red carpet for actress Selma Blair the forty six year old who is known for her roles in cult classics like cruel intentions, legally blonde, and the sweetest thing. Now facing a new challenge. How are you doing? I am do very well. I very happy to see you being able to just put out what being in the middle of an aggressive form of multiple sclerosis Lek. So my speeches. You'll notice is I have spent spasmodic dysphasia right now when you were first diagnosed what initially went through your mind. I cried I had tears. I wasn't. They weren't tears of panic. They were tears of nothing. I now had to give in to a body that had lots of control, and there was some relief in that because ever since. My son was born was in MS flare up and didn't. And I was giving it everything to seem normal. And I was self medicating when he was with me, and I was drinking. I was in pain. I wasn't always drinking. But there were times when I couldn't take it. And I was really struggling hop might get by life and not taken seriously by doctors. And so when I got the diagnosis I cried with some relief like oh, good. I'll be able to do something. How difficult was it to share it with your son? Now the doll. I always want them to feel safe never responsible for me. But he had already seen that. I was falling and doing things said I have something multiple sclerosis. And he almost cried and said Willett kill you. And I said, no, I mean, we never know what kills us are. But the. This is not the doctor tells me I'm dumping. And he was like, okay. What are doctors telling you? What's what's your prognosis the doctor? I saw he set with any year. I could have at the time. He said ninety percent of my abilities back. So this is this is to say, let's meet again next year. And see if I'm better if I'm not, and I can still have a conversation. That's good enough. And I wanna see I wanna see for other people wanna see for me and see where I am. I was little scared of talking and even my knowledge just said, no this will bring a lot of awareness. No one has G to talk with their full up. But I do because that love Cameron. It's date. I'll see. Okay. The beautiful beautiful. We can't wait for that interview a year from now, we are all pulling for Selma and everyone who is battling MSN our country, and you can see much more Robbins interview later tonight on Nightline and vanity fair's feature on Selma is live on their website Vanity Fair dot com. The March issue of their magazine is out right now with some story. In the meantime, there is still much more ahead on world news tonight. This Tuesday to chilling headline mother and daughter accused of killing five family members among them, a thirteen year old boy and twin girls, and what that mother allegedly confessed to police about all this the other horrific case tonight, the young man accused of killing his childhood friend verdict his into night after that confession was shown in court. And there is news coming in tonight on the zookeeper injured by a rhino attack. Struck by its foreign while training will abortion that a lot more news ahead tonight. So you just woke up your phone is lighting up with headlines and push notifications. And a text from your mom saying, how do I click this? Okay. Maybe that's just me. But if you want to get up to speed, check out the new podcast from ABC news start here. Literally the ground was shaky. I'm Brad milkey and every morning, we're going to take you to the stories that matter with fast, fresh, insight, low, Robert Muller. Michael Cohen calling all in twenty minutes start here. Listen for free on apple podcasts or your favorite podcast app. We turn next tonight to a verdict in a murder trial making national headlines a young man in New Jersey, convicted of killing a childhood friend. Prosecutors playing a secret recording at trial by twenty twenty co anchor Amy robot following the case late today? The young man accused of murdering his childhood friend in cold blood found guilty on all counts by New Jersey jury prosecutors argued pure greed, drove Liam McIntosh's ni to strangle nineteen. Eighteen year old Sarah stern, a promising young artists who went missing from her home in two thousand sixteen great kidney. Ever should ended like this. Jurors viewing this chilling tape. Police say was his confession. The base McIntosh's me plan to murder stern. Ben steal thousands of dollars. Her late mother left her. Great. She. She took him. Gra Makati claimed that video was merely auditioned for a horror film. The jury didn't buy it. Mcintosh's knee will be sentenced in may he faces life in prison without the possibility of parole. David or AB robuck with us tonight. Eighty thank you can see much more of reporting on this chilling case to our twenty twenty this Friday night, nine pm eastern to the index of other news tonight, the chilling murder case in Morrisville Pennsylvania authorities Shane decree and her daughter had now confessed to killing five family members in their home thirteen year old boy and nine year old twin girls among the victims. The mother allegedly telling police everyone quote wanted to die zookeeper injured by a rhino at the Jacksonville Zuhdi night, the four thousand pound right on Archie striking zookeeper with its horn touring training session. 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Repodcasting 35  The Craft

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Repodcasting 35 The Craft

"Podcasting is part of the BERTA podcast network locally grown community supported. You ever watched a movie and wondered why the Castile woman or that guy here's our chance to give it a try re podcasting. Hello, and welcome to another episode of Re podcasting. I'm Lucia. Janet has going Janet. How are you good I am really excited this month. It's been a little while since we've had a movie that I'm like that I was really excited to watch. Really excited to recast really excited talk. Classic absolutely. So for those who don't know if you didn't hear last month, we recast the craft from nineteen ninety six. It is a quintessential nineties movie. It is a cult classic now and for me I watched it probably like shortly after it came out on home video, I would have been probably about seventeen I. thought it was fun but I hadn't watched it again. So I was really excited to watch it for the PODCAST. How about you Jennifer? Had you seen it before I had just seen it in June. Because it had been on TV and I hadn't watched it since. It initially came out in ninety six I went to the movie theater to watch this movie. And I remember being really into it I thought it was really good. You know what I think is really cool is next year is going to be the twenty fifth anniversary of this movie. ooh, I wonder will do a reunion or some consolidation. Wonder if they've got anything special planned for it, I can't believe the twenty five years. Yeah. That's kind of upsetting. Let's not focus on that So how did you at the box office? I'm really curious. So the budget with fifteen million and it was a box office success. It made fifty five million stay said that it was like a complete surprise hit for the studio because the studio never. Imagined that it was going to do so well, apparently, the studio didn't have very high expectation for. Doesn't that feel like not get up on a soapbox or anything, but doesn't it feel like studios often say things like that if the movie is centered around women or around minorities or something that's not Whiteman I. I don't know I'm just the more that I read about you know how these studio executives executives often are. Predicting things and makes you question who's running the show. Studio executives the get these jobs that are so clueless. About you know what is going to do well, like how are you suited for that job if you're huckabee making bad decisions. Or you hear about people. Yeah or you hear about studio exacts who passed on back to the future you know things that ended up becoming gigantic massive hits. And like yet, they keep their jobs right or or do that I don't know. I always wonder about that. It's like how did they get that job in the first place if they're so bad at discerning what's going to be good what's not going to be good I don't know it just sounds like these. Year lot of these scenarios where they're like Oh we never believed it was going to do well and. It's probably nepotism. Chunks. Okay. Well, for those who haven't seen it NPS if you haven't pushed pause, go watch the movie and then come back. So the Synopsis Is Sarah Starts School in a new city and befriends a Coven of witches who need Sarah to realize their powers. That's all I. Yeah I certainly don't want to give anything away but but yeah, I thought this was really fun I. Really really enjoyed watching it again and I actually I'm fine with all of the four main actresses in it but I'm also happy to recast them like I do think it's a case where like even though I like them I do think we can do better. Yes. So do you WanNa go first I think I went first last time. Sure. So we decided to recast three of the role thera- Bailey was played by Robin Tunney and Bonnie Harper was plagued by Campbell and then Rachelle. was played by Rachel. True. So listen I both decided that we didn't want to recast for Roosevelt because. So. Amazing. In this movie. No excellent and like there was no way I was going to recast her. And like she's so authentic that I don't know if you discovered this while you're looking up the movie, she ended up buying a magic shop. Like. Assertion called a magic shop. It's called Pan pipes magical marketplace in Hollywood. because. She got so into all of the witchcraft stuff and she ran that store for six years. That I, think that's so cool. Really interesting. was like the she's the Richie George Church. If I was comparing her to someone like the Alpha in the group but she was amazing like Sh- I would never recast her she was great but the other three rules I don't know Robin Tunney I'm not a fan of at all like I still don't understand how Robin Tunney has a career or has had a career 'cause I get to see her in anything like Oh yeah like Robin Tunney, I thought she was not like she hasn't had a. Wildly successful career like she's she's a working actor, but she hasn't done anything like she had a few things in the nineties like this empire records but other than that she hasn't done a lot where it's like sh-. Not Me my guess is what I'm trying to say. I know I'm not a fan I don't really much of her Neve Campbell. I Dunno Neve Campbell. Same thing I really understood the but. Yeah. I run cold on Campbell even though there will be times where I'm like, Oh, I really like her, but it's not that I think she's a very good actor. Like I don't think she's kind of one note and melodramatic. Be Suited to a soap opera. Neve Campbell, it's always the same. It's always the same performance that you get out of her basically and I've seen her in a few different things and she's always the same and then richelle true. I mean Earth Rachel true she was okay. But again, I was like. Her performance. It wasn't. With there was anything spectacular or even that it was stand out in any way. So, for Sarah Bailey which was. Played by Robin Tunney I picked Vanessa Marcel. ooh. General Hospital yet she played friend know. Where a lot of people will know her from that's kind of her best known role and he was also on nine zero to zero for a while. She played Gina. So the thing about Vanessa Mercer I really liked Vanessa Marcel I think that she never. That transition. TV to film even though she seemed like she was. Going to break out because she did this movie with Nicholas Cage in Nineteen Ninety six year as this movie called the Rock. What I forgot she was in the yeah. She was in that she I believe she plays his girlfriend. And and I'll never forget when she started in that movie and when it came out, she got a lot of critical buzz for her performance and it really seemed like she was on the edge seemed like she was. Good to break into film that that was her breakout role, and then I don't know what happened in happen for her and I never understood why it didn't happen 'cause I always thought she was very good. Search me too. I mean I like her I I always liked her I thought she was very good I, thought was a very good dramatic actress. She can do comedy as well but so I don't get it and she definitely would have been the right age for this role as well and I think she would have been perfect as the lead because people would've already known who she and I think she could have played a high school student. She had like a very young enough to seem each as Robin Tunney. Wow I thought she was older. She's like couple years older. Basically in the same age. So I think she should have been quite that I would have liked to have seen her in that and I think a like a movie like this like imagine what it would have done for her career. Would have shot her into the superstardom for sure. then for the role of Bonnie Hunter played by Neve Campbell I went with Selma. Blair. kind of I can't believe Selma Blair wasn't cast in this move here. The plenty I mean we'll talk about this after if you want but you know there was a list of. Female, actors who auditioned for this rate can't believe that Selma Blair was not one of them. I was so surprised that her name was not on the list of all the people that they audition for this. How old is she? She probably was a teenager then right? Yes. Selma Blair is. Believed, she's about forty eight or forty nine now. She would have been about three age. and. I could really see her in that role, the Bonnie role because if for some reason I was thinking of the role that she played in cruel intentions. Lay kind of like that. Really quiet, ed. And you know like. Like that most sort of five Bonnie high but then you know, can she really like? Wants her back is fine. Since she becomes like this fem tall like she's all sexy or whatever. See Selma Blair Lake being able to play that better than NEF. Campbell did like I didn't believe. I believed. Neve. Campbell as like an email depressed teenager. But not when she started coming out of her shell and was all like saucy yeah. Her anymore you. and. I didn't feel like I felt like I knew what the movie was trying to say with it but that it wasn't getting set properly with. I. Really liked that. Sorry. I just need to save because I honestly feel like you could put Selma Blair into every Neve Campbell roll like I don't know why I just feel like Ya. I feel like that's a really good like one to one. Selma Blair is a better actor though, right? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Definitely. SOMMA Blair is somebody who I don't think has had the career that she should have had either yes I know there have been times where she also felt on the brink. Like I feel like Selma Blair is capable of so much but like didn't seem to have. The opportunities there I I heard of her in a show called Zoe. Duncan. Jack and Jane and she was one of the leads and she was so charismatic and so fun and it was a comedy and she was really funny and I for sure like from watching that show I was like, oh, she's going to be a star well, the thing that I find about Selma Blair her appeal anyway is that she's one of those actors she always deals the scenes. Like when she's on screen, you can't how you can't take your eyes off of her and I mean obviously she's very attractive but that's not why like she's just got. She's one of those actors like she's got that intense screen presence like even in legally `blanche. Please that guy plays the girlfriend. Yes. Boyfriend's name or whatever. But I can't remember her character's name right now in legally blonde is it mere? No not VIVIENNE VIVIAN SO VIVIAN But even in legally blonde, it's like for a minute there you're like she kind of stealing this from. Reese Witherspoon. Yeah I just think she's so good. So I mean I like I say I can't believe that she wasn't cast in this movie been perfect. Yeah I loved her in the sweetest thing she's like the third build because it's very much about Cameron Diaz Christina applegate. I agree that like she does frequently steal the show in everything she's. and so then for the Rachelle Cameron role which was played by Rachel. True. Lake I didn't necessarily feel compelled to put in like a black actor. But I did put in an Asian actor who I went with Lake. Well it in Nineteen ninety-six, it would be considered a minority rain. But I'm sure they put her in for. Diversity even then that's kind of surprising that they did that right? Sure. But it is also part of her storyline rate like who she's trying to get back at in as a witch is because of. The racism towards her right? So anyway, I cast may not win. Okay, and you know what Magna win is another actor who again I mean she's she consistently works for sure right for anyone who doesn't know who she is I feel like a lot of people will know her as the voice of Mulan. A anime, the original animated one. and then now she's on the agents of shield. She plays. An agent. I don't watch that show. But I'm sure like anybody who is into that whole world if you're listening, you know who plays but she's I know she's on agents of shield and she has consistently worked. I mean he has always worked right she's been a working actor for years and years but again, she somebody who I don't feel she has had the career that she should have. I I really like her I think she's a good actor and I would have liked to have seen her in this movie because I think. Would have done good things for her career made her more of a household name. Maybe 'cause she deserves to be on and I would have liked to have seen what she would have done with the role. Nice. I'm trying to remember I knew her from a Sitcom like that's when I first saw her I think was called nurses. And I liked her ever since then you know were I I mean I'm going to sound really you all. And I'm really dating myself by saying this but I remember her when she was on as the world turns, which is a soap opera not even on anymore. Yeah. Like this is back in the eighties, but that's were like. I think that's where I remember her from and men from those kind of, i. think where she got her start wasn't soap operas. On I always find the soap opera thing interesting because there are some actors who get their start in soap operas and then you know are able to use that as a stepping stone. But. Then you also have people who like that is their career for forty years sometimes as the same character her it's really interesting. Well I don't know I mean sometimes, you have to wonder if like I think a lot of it is what your ambitions are as well. Right? Maybe, some people want more and. You know, maybe some don't I'm I'm sure anybody who's been on a soap opera for a long time like they make more money than the average person. Absolutely, and it's a well, I was about steady paycheck but I guess on a soap opera, you anybody can get killed off at any anytime. Well I very much like those picks and I think we'll take a quick break before we get into picks. I want to talk to you about a new initiative from from our friends at a t be called ATP goodness grows. Eighty goodness grows is initiative that motivates all Burton's to bring joyful moments to others. We are all adjusting to being disconnected from the places, people and experiences. We love. So making someone laugh or bringing a smile to their day has never been more needed or more powerful. From live streams, connecting business owners to new fun ways to celebrate things like father's day ATV hopes to inspire Albertans to keep the goodness growing. To find out more or to get involved visit att dot Com Slash Kovic Dash nineteen slash community. And now back to the show. And we're back now it's time for a million who I chose for these roles I'll start with Robin Tunney. Sarah Sarah Belly I decided to go with, I wanted to go with somebody who? Like. I. Think which. For me is a compliment. That's how I treat the word now, and so I wanted to find somebody who I think has good witch energy and I Knew. Yeah. She's about the same age as Robin Tunney she's a few years older at that point she had been on a lot of TV shows in a couple of movies but all very, very small roles she was actually in re podcasting favorite Jerry Maguire. As an ex girlfriend. and then yes, she had had no major roles at that point and then her major break came a couple of years later on Alley mcbeal and then Charlie's angels was in two thousand. But this could have been the kick start for her career. Yet I just think that she's such a like she's such a bad us. There's no other word for it. She's. Yeah. She's always like very cool and collected which I do think that like even when we first meet. Sarah. She is we see she has powers in the classroom like that's why the Coven I'm just going to refer Kevin. That's why they bring her in and I do feel like Lucy Liu would have that right energy and then also at the end you realize that she's the most powerful of all of them so I really love that for her You would definitely have played it 'cause. There's an intensity of Oh Lucy Liu Right. She has that we. Can really project and be really intense. That was one of the reasons I didn't like Robin tunney either because like I'm not getting. Any intensity off this girl. Yes. She's very even-toned the entire time. Right yeah. I have a soft spot for her because of this movie because of empire records but I agree that she's not a super skilled actor. So Yeah I think Lucy Liu would be much much better. and then for Bonnie Campbell role, I went with Rosemary Dawson. Yes. So she was actually a teenager at the time she would have been about seventeen, but she had already had her break in the movie kids two years before or one year before in ninety five. And Yeah I think Rosario. Dawson is a really good actor. I think Neve Campbell is not. Neve Campbell is another one who's just very lake not quite monotone but like very bland. Yeah. Absolutely and Rosario Dawson has range so. And also I could see her doing the transition from like. introverted Yvonne Kid Hugh halted to you know sexy bombshell. Yeah and then for Rachelle Rachel. True. She's another one who like I didn't have a big problem with her but she's kind of bland in the role and there's a lot more that you could bring to it. And I think Abril Union could have brought that. Other one who? Fake I don't think she's had to career that she has her exactly. I, totally agree that this point she had had only one credit on her filmography nineteen ninety-three but she was working in TV from ninety six to ninety eight, and then her big break him a few years later in she's all that in ninety nine and then bring it on in two thousand. So whatever. Yeah. So this was another one where like this could have been her kickstart. And Yeah, I think. It's it's a cool movie. It's a good movie. I like the strength of the women and I don't and I think that the picks that actually you and I have done just would get that across better. Yeah like I just find it. So interesting I like I said when when the research and there was all talk. Like this list of all these different actresses that were by dishes for these roles, it's like, how did they miss? So many of these people like Miss Somebody like Gabrielle Union or you know how did they miss? Selma Blair? I I don't know it is surprising. Project. I don't know. Yeah. Because when something like this comes out. Like usually you see lists and lists of like every body in Hollywood was you know trying to get the role it's surprising Since we're on that I found a few names. Did you find a bunch for who had auditioned? For starters they said that they auditioned over four hundred actresses well. I don't know if you saw that or no I didn't four hundred actresses in there was no Gabrielle Union no some of Larry. yeah. They said the auditions over four hundred. Actresses amazing supply. I don't know I only saw I saw Angelina Jolie and Alicia Silverstone for Sarah Berry. I saw Scarlett Johansson but I didn't see who she auditioned for. Ho and then one that I thought was kind of funny. Holly Marie Combs was considered for Bonnie. which I do feel like she's similar to Neve Campbell. So it feels appropriate. That's who she was auditioning for but also she ended up playing which for several years in the show charmed char. While I was reading somewhere where they said that this charmed was basically like a rip off of this movie. Yeah it's actually I was surprised. So the director the I think was the director of this movie I'm Andrew Fleming, he wrote a pilot based on the craft like after it was a hit any shopped it around and I think he said the WB and Fox were both interested but ultimately, it went nowhere and then one year later the WB puts out charmed so like yeah, they just took his idea said, no, thank you and ripped him off. Bertel. One that I thought it was so funny to me maybe shouldn't be they had a witchcraft consultant on the set. Good I mean, that's also I feel like that's smart. The Nina's I. and. Added like an authenticity. and I don't know if you saw this but there was a story that when they were filming the scene where they'll go to the beach and they've each got an animal. that they had a lot of trouble filming that scene. They were apparently reciting words from actual I think it was WICCAN Incantations and lake strange things kept happening like bats flew over and we're whether hanging around the set over them the. Kept like whenever they would say a certain phrase, the ocean kept like coming up too far like it was very interesting. Man I. Don't know I like that kind of creeps me out. Yeah me too. I have to say like. Yes I enjoyed watching this movie at the time but I know that I never would have been one of those girls in high school because I would rather just stay away from all of that. I remember in high school I had a friend who had a Boy Or we G board I don't know. anyway. So we used it once. And I'm telling you that it freaked me out. And I never agreed to use it again because it was too I don't know that's stuff. I don't know what it is, but there's something about it the yes, it yeah it. Really. It really gives me the creeps me. I'm with you I actually refused to use my one of my friends had a you board and I was like, Nope, you can do that when I'm not here. And I like I don't know if Sheri used it again but I know one time we used it was there was three of us. And we were all freaked and yeah, it was scary. I think for me. Number one if I do have powers I don't WanNa know. And number two if there's a way to contact the other side, I also don't want to know. How? The. I did notice that the director Andrew Fleming said that they followed all the guidelines to earn a pg thirteen rating and it got an are anyway Because the MP, AA complain that it dealt with teenage girls using witchcraft. So I guess they also are creeped out by. Weren't happy that they got the R. Rating. Is that the movie still went on to do so well in spite of Ed? Yeah. Well, that's the funny thing is like you know it's about sixteen year olds it should be four sixteen year and I think it is for sixteen year olds and like there's no nudity, there's no swearing there's like even the violence there's nothing super violent. I just. I don't know that kind of got under my skin a little bit that they got the R. rating because it just feels. what's the Word Lake? You know the M P double as very. Puritanical, right so Yes. So this is something that even though they follow the proper guidelines, there's still like No, it doesn't suit our fancy so. I don't know. I can't believe that it got an r rating either to be. Honest. I mean watching this movie now in two thousand to get so. It's so tame what I mean. You're watching it and you're like. I missed the ninety. Lake. So. True. It's like they were so less complicated than they are today. That's how I felt watching it but I don't know I guess watching in. Almost twenty five years later from from that. Prison at different rates. Glad. It was a success even so. Well did you like I didn't even know this before? We had chosen the movie, but they're doing a reboot of the. Did, you see that I know your research. Yeah. Doing a reboot of it and it's being produced by. I don't know I. Don't know how to pronounce name I don't know if it's Jason. Or Jason Blum Blum House Production Oh. Yeah and he's done a lot of Lake. Thriller Horror. Movies like have. You seen that movie Maw it's with Octavia Spencer. Yeah. No I haven't seen it. Okay. He did that and he's done others. I can't remember the right now. But the the first one that comes to mind is Ma and. I watched that recently and that was so good but scary, right? Well. Not Scary, it's more of. Like. I. Think it's more of a thriller. And they're somewhat suspenseful but. Like I didn't find it scary. I just found it like it's kind of an edge of your you're on the edge of your seat for sure watching it, but it's not like a horror movie but Yes. So when I saw that I was like, Oh, I'm glad. He's doing it because I think. That in his hands, he might actually do a reboot justice. I'll be interested to see like your. With it in the reboot I, guess they're probably. Yeah, they're probably too early in the stages to have any like casting it. They did have. Their being directed by someone named. So we Mr Jones love her. Oh, that's great to hear. I'd like that they got a female director. Yes. She is the director and writer of a movie called aid from a couple of years ago maybe like two thousand seventeen or so that I it was my favorite movie of the year for sure and. She had an all female cast and not casts. Are He crew as which I thought was very cool and it's such a good movie. Oh, I'm so glad to hear that I'm definitely GonNa Watch this. Yeah. So it'll be interesting to see lake we'll. Definitely. See The reboot maybe not in the movie theater. Because I, don't know that I'll ever go to one again. But I mean I'll see the movie definitely when like I'M Like. I would I would definitely watch a reboot I mean the I I enjoyed the original, but I would be curious to see what they do with the reboot. Yeah and I think because it is like. Quite a beloved movie now that I think that they will work hard to do it well. Yeah. Cool. That's Nice News. Do. You have any other like tidbits. Trivia. One thing I found that I thought was interesting was they were asking Robin, Tunney like they did. They did like a little round table interview was in two thousand seventeen with entertainment weekly magazine and they were talking to a few people in the cast and Robin. Tunney was one of the people that they interviewed and she said that initially she couldn't believe that she got the lead role. Apparently auditioned for Bonnie. That's right. I saw that she did not decision for Sarah she auditioned for Bonnie and then they offered her. The the the Sarah Bailey role and she said that she didn't feel like she was good enough. To take on the rule and I was like I agree with. You. But. She said that her agents called her and they told her that she had to take. Because it was a studio movie and it was like the first. Thing that she'd been offered. So they told her like you have to take. I got a she was wearing a wig throughout this movie. Yeah so because you haven't seen empire records, right? Okay well, you probably won't. So I don't think I'm spoiling anything, but she shaves her head in that movie. And so yeah, she had no hair and she had to wear wig for this and Something else. That was just kind of like an little coincidence is that in empire records she had scars on her wrist as well from trying to commit suicide that went horizontal and then in this movie their vertical. And they even comment on it and say like you did it the right way or something like that. Yeah. So I thought that was kind of weird. Okay well, the ratings for this movie on IMDB and rotten tomatoes are actually identical for once this is. Pretty Rare. So got a fifty five percent on both for IMDB that was from twenty critics and run tomatoes from fifty six reviewers. So I think it deserves a little higher than fifty five. It's Kinda low. But. I mean I I also didn't look at the Cross section of who the reviewers are. So it's a bunch of old men like maybe they were like This isn't for me. It's always those old white men. Exactly. Okay. So let's take our second break and then we can come back for our final segment. This episode of Re podcasting is brought to you by the explore podcast, a new fiction and policy podcast brought to you by Jupiter, theatre with media lab. Why? Each episode takes an imaginative dive into the past and future of your city transporting you to fictional worlds that mirror our own through music and the power of the voice. 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I was looking at who are the options for him and it was actually kind refreshing to be like, oh, there's almost no male parts. So yeah I also a mysterious died because also like Sarah Saad is a really nice dad in this in Tony. Fits that perfectly. Tony's always the died he. I mean you could have maybe put him in as isn't there There's like the witchcraft shocked. Yes. She could have been the owner of die as well. There is one other guy there or he could have been the skied alridge character. Or money. Already been the owner of the shop yeah. because. See Him as being like a quirky kind of. That would have been like out of character for him. It wouldn't Tony completely out of character but. Maybe. It would have been a good challenge for him. Yeah. But that could have been fun. I agree. It would have been out of character. Nice. All right. Well I think we did a justice. And I am now really excited to see who ends up being the four leads in the reboot. They had to name. Mike don't know who they were I. Think they're unknowns I think they've cast they've gone West Lake unknown people that's probably a good move. I think that works sometimes especially like fern on Samba and for property that everybody already knows you don't need to have big names to draw people in. So that should work. Cool Okay. So that's it for us this month you can find us on social media at re podcasting, and if you have any suggestions for movies that you'd like us to recast, you can send those along to Re podcasting Jamil Dot, com and speaking of suggesting titles for us to recast Janet Water. We recasting next month. So, four November we will be discussing Bridget Joan. Diary. and. That is a listeners pick. Yeah. Someone who has challenged us. To recast not movie. So I've actually religion forward to that, and it is a challenge because she is the character is iconic. So this'll be interesting. You can watch the movie on Netflix Canada and recast along with us and I think that's it furthest month. Thanks as always for joining me. Janet. By.

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Doctor, My Eyes

Fame is a Bitch

33:05 min | 2 years ago

Doctor, My Eyes

"Hey, guys, AJ Benzi here for fame as a bitch for April Fools day. Twenty nineteen listen, man. We got out of March. I'm so thrilled. Really? And last night the night before I recorded this. I was out in around. And it was like kind of like the old days because well, it was just nobody who was wondering why when I get home or where I was gone or where either just I was kind of untethered I went out last night. And that was able to see if you people and go to a few restaurants and check in make some noise, you know, like the old days. It's a very weird feeling. I began the night seeing my buddy Jay more perform at the improv on our. He's asked me three or four times to come see him and things have always come up and the last two times he asked I was in the midst of the whole break-up shit. And my mind wasn't ready to sit down and laugh, you know, and Jay has been through some tragic shit with wives, and you know, custody and all that stuff. So. Valley talked here today. It's no secret that when he gets depressed he stays in bed. He's pretty open about that. So trying to get him out of bed. I'm like come on, man. You gotta fuck best the whole thing. And that's just something. I don't know about depression. I mean I've suffered. I've I've felt also depressed, but I've always been able to get out of bed. Do ahead to do. And when you're a comedian as funniest Jay more, and that's your life. You gotta get out of bed. So he did. And I wanted to go see him and. You know? It's a weird thing. I went alone. And I'm sitting at this table. I actually ask somebody to go with me who's going through some shit with. What was the man she was married to die necessarily? This can be good you laugh, and you know, I'm not ready. Okay. So I go along, and they I'm sitting in this long rove seats and his people next to me. And you got a hand your phone in. You gotta put your phone the bag because didn't allow following some comics don't want phone see if they don't want you texting or video I understand. So literally when you sitting there, you can't live with your phone. You're completely into everything. This comic is saying. And I love Jay Morris Jami, and what I'm trying to say is that I know so much about his pain. And that's where so much of comedy comes from. And that's just it. Pain. Plus time equals comedy. And when you see Jay more, if you ever have the chance to see him, you won't believe it because his mind is he's a million miles an hour. And I'm gonna tell you something right now. He he said, so many amazing the one thing he said that wasn't a joke as much as it was. So true is that you know, you meet girlfriend you guys who getting together as great and Munshi introduces you to her girlfriend. She's like, this is Jay is neat grade. And all the girlfriends are like giving the thumbs up, and, you know, we'll get a movie next month. It's going to be do, you know and like three years later. It's like you go to a party, and your now wife says you do don't tell that fucking story about what happened on set with Gina Gershon just plea in like it just changes. And he said something that's so real. And now, I'm. Not trying to be a hater to women because you women are the best. But he said look when two people get married and then ten twelve fifteen years go by. One of those two people change, and it's never the guy. And you know, what it wasn't a comment to elicit laughter. But I completely understood what he said because we don't change we are the guy worthy idiot. You met at the nightclub whether jerk. Who said the wrong thing. Who's who wore the wrong shirt? There were that guy, and you were the woman who's gonna fix us. And you girlfriends gave you the thumbs up. You could do it girl. You know, this an, and you know, what? Sometimes after ten years, you know, it's like a project at home, but you don't finish you couldn't fix everything. And then the fights on the backstabbing and the hatred and the resentment all that shit, but not trying to go down that road upon was he is amazing. And he tells a joke that begins so incredibly awkward it's about something that may be a number of us here have experienced and j makes no bones about saying that when he was I dunno eleven or so years old. He blew a kidney, Eddie Collins. And when you hear you go well with what he did know. What what what of blow job man, he thought a blowjob met? You just blew on somebody so Eddie Collins at although I now he lived in New Jersey these days there were two jersey kids. So Eddie Collins goes I and it's he's not just blowing on Jay Moore. He's he's giving him a blow job and to J Moore's credit who's completely straight and has been married twice and has kids. My he's sitting there going. Okay. This is what this feels like this is unbelievable. But I didn't know I've got to do this back to him. But when it came his turn he did just that. He did it. He gave the guy the kid a blow job. I mean. Now is they can AJ wise that in the comedy show is not funny. No, it's not funny. But what happens later is the point. Is that the guy he blew when he was ten years old Eddie Collins became the chief of? Police in a certain town in New Jersey, and and Jay did the whole shell. And just when you forgot about the blowjob story. He talked about. What hate to do behind the wheel in the state of New Jersey? He get have to mileage in the front seat naked. He could have Mexican and trunk. He could have Haitian slaves with zip ties on their hand. It don't matter because if he gets pulled over he'll just go. Oh, do you want any Collins to know that you you just pulled over Jay more by all means call call call on Collins? And let's talk about it. It is a it's not maybe it's not something you laugh at but for him to take hold shell. And have the balls to end it on that note that is bravery beyond Bitlis. I. I found insane and wonderful and refreshing. Because now while that didn't happen to me, the beginning of the show is pretty creepy apologized, but I'll get to fame and Hollywood and the second. But when I was a kid, and I won't mention my neighbor's name because he's gone on to great things. He he's worth a fortune now overseas, but you know, couple of young guys were in the middle of the playing football or whatever let's take the piss break. So we'd all go to different houses in piss and sometimes two of us from pissing the same mole. So I'm pissing in the same bowl as let's fall in Peter and me and Peter a piston in the ball, and you know, nine ten you. He do like a sword fight. What you're what you're p you. You know, you try to hit each other's stream, whatever the hell stupid stuff. It's just little boys do those things. And then after we were done Pene Peter says to me. He takes the empty role of taller paper. And he puts it on his penis and any tells me blow on this. And I don't know why I knew that was wrong. But I'm like, no, I'm not gonna blow on it. He goes now. It's fun. It'll be fun. I said I wanna do it. And we didn't do it. But I think every guy and maybe a lot of guys who are listening. Now have had that moment of. When you got really close to that queer moment, where you, you know, is there do you? Do you come back from that you comebacks straight? I'm sure you do they don't make a gay, but it's very strange that those moments occur and men are not willing to talk about it. So I gave Jay more a lot of credit because he went all out my God that he talked about it. And. And I'm telling you my little moment with Peter and the toilet paper. All but it didn't work Mark. But the reason why I'm bringing up these this this sexual kind of stuff. Number reasons, I go to show last night. I thought I'd hang out with him after the show ended, and he just bolted. I'm like, Brian motherfucker. What's up, and he's gotta go on. Okay. So now walking on Melrose, and I looked to my right? And it literally was the street that I moved to when I came to LA in February of ninety seven, and I was wearing black t shirt jeans some cultures, but the jacket. I was wearing was jacket. I bought at a great Giorgio Armani tag sale for a hundred bucks for the six hundred dollar. Jack got I've never got rid of jacket. It's always good. It's like a three quarter length. It's fucking hot. I'm wearing that jacket. I look at the street that I wore that I moved to. And I go you don't have to be home. No one's worried about you getting home. What do you want to do? So I started going to let me go to rails. I'll see my friend, Johnny roast beef. You know, Johnny Johnny was in a bunch of movies, especially. Goodfellas? He's the guy that gets his wife to Cadillac deniro's. What did I tell you? What did I can tell you Chimi itching? My wife's name. What did I fall into? You know, he's that guy. I sit down with Johnny roast beef. We're talking I tell him what are you doing? How's life? What's on? I talked about my life. And he goes. That's over your marriage zone. I says, well, you know, we're going to talk about it and see therapies not stunt stun. He should have been through this twice. Forget about it's done like just cut and dry. So let me get out of here. So I get an over. And I go to a place called Dan cans right been been famous forever. I mean, a couple of guys, Dan, I know for year the thing is every the same people. I saw when I was running around still out there, the vampires the people who sucked blind sub money the girls looking for this for that. They're still out there. And it's like, you know, part of me is like okay on here. Okay. I'm meeting this person. Again, I'm saying hi, people know me, I dunno. They're fucking name. Hey, bro. Hey, man. I says no I get. But I don't know. I don't know if that's my few. I'm not sure I wanna do that. It was it was his small those experiences that I wanted to bring to your attention. So. But what I was getting to about Jay more. And he had a joke about. He gets off when girls call him daddy. Right. And. Personally that used to work with me. But now that I have a daughter. I don't wanna hit no-one call me daddy. But her, you know, but j doesn't have a door he has son. So maybe it still works for him. So it brought to mind what happened with this? Former New York Knicks star Kristaps Porzingis. I don't know how many you ladies know about this guy. But we called them the unicorn at the at new in New York City because he was going to save the Knicks and make us the best team seven foot three lot Fiene. We got him in the draft. He was head. He's great. He's a huge talent. But after three years of he he he he had such a debilitating injury to his knee that they wouldn't even show the replay. It was not only a year a season and the injury, but it could possibly be been a career ender. But he needed the your south. Anyhow, just when they think next year is going to come back. He starts making noise and talk and shit and his brothers his manager. So a few weeks ago, the Knicks go fuck this. Let's get rid of this guy. Whittall who needs this talk? He hasn't done anything for us. He sound for threes. Got a lot of promise while we acting like we're holding the keys to the kingdom. You know? He anyhow they trade him. Now, what happens is a story comes out the other day. The day that he had this awful injury. And I mean his knee. You don't wanna you'll throw up? You can't look at the video. He goes back to his panels in Manhattan. This is February of two thousand eighteen and he's got a girl. You got a girl he sees or fucking whatever. And apparently that night he has she's black room. He called or my bitch. My slave. Yeah. Just banned talk. But you know, might have been talked. She liked but he said some bad things to her. And all of a sudden how much time waiter she decides to file a suit. And the story broke Saturday. The the NYPD is investigating this allegation of rape against Christopher's in his. And they said we can't confirm if he used the bad line which yet, but I mean, listen, I don't to say the wrong thing, but I have had black girlfriends and sometimes the talk has gotten really spicy. But it was agreeable. You know, it was something she wanted to hear and for whatever reason during our sexual lease on it. It worked. The fact that this guy came back from his injury and went to his panels and had this girl and apparently said awful things star while they fucking I can't believe they fucked with this injury. I mean, this is like amazes me. That's why athletes are like nobody else in the world. But you know, he was twenty three and the girl is saying he punched her and raped her inside this, you know, beautiful building skyscraper. He lived in. They both lift she was living their wisdom. I don't understand what's going on. I just don't understand what's going on any more. So you're telling me, you're living with the woman, and you're making millions of dollars and whatever agreement you have about saying, you're my slave. You're my bitch. Whatever it is. You mean to tell me at one point when your career might be over a for whatever reason that girl can then go to the cops and gone. In February twenty eighteen you call me sleigh bitch. He punched me he said this that and the cops can come and fucking. Iraq. It doesn't make sense to me. I'm really like the I don't care about Kristaps Porzingis. Because I thought he was you know, he acted like he was the best thing that ever happened to us. And he hasn't done anything yet. But we finally traded him a few weeks ago, and we traded him basically just to have Rome. So they'll be consigned to superstars hopefully, Kyrie Irving. And now, I only I almost always take Kevin Garnett. And he coming here. So forget about the guy in the fucking boy is he ain't company Durant. But the point is we got capped. Now, we got room we can sign two big players, and it's all going to be good. But this was a huge story in New York. Guys. You know, this whole thing about the way you talk to a woman in bed. And if you throw in the fact that maybe that night, you just had the worst injury of your life that could have ended your athletic career. Maybe you're a little on edge. You know, daddy came home for work in a bad mood. That is something that me and my sisters always used to look out the front window and notice while my dad got out of his red Mustang daddy's in a bad mood. It did mean him is going to hit us it just meant. Let's just you know, he's in the band moon. Let's stay as for law. For whatever reason this woman decides to tell the cops he called me slave a bitch. He punched another punching straight out can't do it. However, there are many women who like this kind of crazy treatment, and it's not fair that they can go back and call the cops and say, well, this happened now look presume is that night invited her into his apartment and the shit went down. And a lawyer said that they knew this accusation for some time even before he was traded to the Dallas Mavericks. They knew about it. I really don't believe that. I really I kind of don't. But the point is the Dallas Mavericks took him even though there's a pending rape allegation. You know, because they're convinced he's telling the truth. And so am I I I'm convinced he's telling the truth to because I know that there's so many girl. Out there tried to extort or really doing sort famous athletes like this fucking pain in the ass girl. Jen sushi the girl for the boxy man that I told you about the other day and the kiss the guy Parral kissed her after his boxing match have you seen? What's been uncovered since? Then I love you seen how she dresses like her to tits or hostages. And and they think one button that's holding these double jeez. And this is the way she goes into the ring to interview forget the fuck at you can't dress that way, you can't. And if you do you got a beast of a man who just battled for whatever happening around eight rounds is a fucking animal. Yeah. He might grab me and kiss you that going to hurt you. But then after the fight if you've seen some stuff and some of the some of the guys on on the Facebook page. Were savvy enough to find these videos of her on YouTube sitting down and giving these guys lap dances? After the fight after the kiss that really upset or to the point that she called Gloria Allred, while we tell you she sitting there with her white blouse, and there's one button that's unbuttoned. It's lower than the first one, and she's grooving her ass on the boxers friends. She's having a ball. It's bullshit. She's a ringside hor every sport has women like that. You know, she just didn't like that. He just around live team. She didn't liked it. She should get together with the check was fucking around Porzingis. And maybe they can you know, figure out what they did wrong. But listen, the metoo movement is gone too. Crazy. It's like everything else. The metoo movement has gone to nuts. It's trying to come back. Now, all this transgender shit went too far with, you know, women men beating women and track meets, we got a dial. It back, you know, let's just come on stop fucking around. So we're we're starting to dial this shit back. So that it starts to make some sense. But I'll tell you a true story that I'm not too proud about. But there are women who liked to be spoken to in a very bad way. And they some thorough someone who likes to be treated in a very bad way. And he don't want when you're young you're saying and you're trying all the fucking flavors onto the rainbow. And you meet a girl that likes to be smacked and likes to be called a certain word. Oh, why Louis C what this is about him? But the fuck I'll try it. So true story. One night. Now, I parliament, but my cousin Mary who live at me time two thousand or so and John Gotti had just died. And I was in New York the week before at the funeral and I had taken a bunch of newspapers to commemorate his death. I had every paper from New York that had his I still have cops. I'll never get rid of. Why I don't know. But I have so at that point I had just gotten back from New York from his funeral is like June of two thousand two and I got the papers on my house. And. We'll with marry was with his girl that he was dating who was well known riders roommate. So when Elena came over to so now four of us, and then these two girls come on because after the club. I tell the girls let's go back to my house. We got some fun can have don't worry about when when Noma and her roommate came the girl said, we're gonna leave but their car didn't start. So we will waiting for AAA. And I said come on back in house. Hang out haven't drank AAA dot com. And you stay with us while they're staying with us one of the girls black girl. That I liked you know, that I was turned on by you know, we will have a good time. She goes out. Sucking newspapers job guy fucking bum. And I said way adult I'll say that you, you know, you don't even know what are you saying don't talk that way? Just now like he's on top guide so stupid. He's nobody's as I said. Listen. I wouldn't talk that way is a guy that I know I'm not gonna call him a great friend. But I know him, you know, for what it's worth he was good to me. And, you know, listen, you're in my house. I'm waiting to AAA dot com to take you guys away. So just, you know, be nice Hon. Well, fuck Cam, he's this and that I says one more word at you like that. And you're not gonna like what happens to you. And then she's like what's going to happen to me and Marilyn's going stop stop. And I'm remember that term. I tell you got some gob, which means I'm ready to go. Now, you have this damn we were out for hours. We drinking knows what else was in our system and his girl starting shit. What else? But what are you gonna do? If I say that. I said it's better. We don't find out. Just stop to shut up. Stop talking way for triple A shut up. Stop have a drink is that finally she says? I know you wanna call me nigger just say it came out of nowhere. So mother say that not gonna use that word you stop after like three minutes of this. I said, you know, I'm not gonna sit that where but I will say this. You have been nothing, but a fucking pay the my assets you got here. I'm taking care of you. Let me stay in my house. Triple eight comes. And you want me to call. You were not going to say. So I'll tell you why how about this. Why don't you try being nice you black bastard? That's what I said to him. I know some of you like AJ, how dare you? She wanted to call it again worked. She was begging me. So I'm not gonna do it. I said, listen, you listen. Shut the fuck up. I was like I was fit to be tied many. How AAA comes? She wasn't thought me she lease me. And Mario like you believe this shit. Oh, my got fifteen minutes later is nocco ideal. It's the black girl. What's matter? I just wanna barge is actors. All right, whatever the fuck. Okay. Hon? You know, you need to be that mean mad average. How I know you so sweet, it's okay. All right. Let's forget it don't worry about it. She kind of turned me on. What turned John when you call me? You got a kid me. No. I liked it. Well. The end of the story is she came back in my apartment, and we went upstairs, and I said, very bad things that are and it turned the wrong things. I didn't want to say, but that's what turned back on. So did Kristaps Porzingis have girl like that probably. And the guys, you know, getting the third degree in and then may do time like it's just ridiculous some chicks want that. These things happen. While I'm on the subject of these things happening and people drinking. Let me say today show's brought to you by broom age you're gonna like this kid name Dylan Jakup when he was twenty one years old this kid discovered them, but we all know, warm, alcohol sucks. So he created brew eight which is the fastest growing drink where brand in the world. It's basically it's a product wine that ensures a perfect match for everyone. From insulated coolers for slim and craft cans of soda beer would have you unbreakable. Glasses insulated canteens that keep a full bottle of wine at the perfect temperature for over twenty four hours. No more half drunk beers. No, more diluted continentals or wasted bottles of wine. Even like, you know, you get champagne, and you have to bother you. Gotta put the fucking spoon topless. Champagne. 'cause somebody told you it works keeps the bubbles of that shook. We'll we'll do it. This guy's got a solution to right now. Brew mate is giving my listeners a special fifteen percent off off your first order when you go to brew eight dot com and use the promo code fame. Fifteen percent off when you use fame at Broome, mate dot com. Don't let summer heat ruin your drink. Go to roommate dot com and beat the heat this summer. It's good brew may be are you and AT dot com. Code fan. So. Tonight shows a little quicker than usual guys. Because the fact that I did go out. I got no sweep it was like the old days, and I have a lot to do today. But for the next show, I'm going to give you an Ray thing and more. And plus there was some amazing things about to happen that I can now shed on the show, but you'll hear about them in the next few days can be great. I wanted to talk about something that is a good to good piece of news that no one's reporting on. And it feels good to talk about this. I'm sure a lot of you know, of Selma Blair, beautiful actress who unfortunately is suffering with MS, and I mentioned her on my show not too long ago, and at the Oscars they put around the red carpet in you know, I I didn't know how bad it was until I heard her speak. I mean, it's bad this beautiful woman is is going through something that happens when you're much older and it's heartbreaking because she's still so gorgeous. And she's got it. She's got a young child, and you got her Instagram, and it breaks your heart because life is so fragile literally one day one phone call, and it's so different. So my heart was breaking whenever I see here. But guess what a good friend of mine. Good friends of mine who don't want to be mentioned in pisses me off because these people are such angels. They do things under the radar. They're Baltin Hollywood. They they are helping me. Be the wavy on that what they're doing with Selma. Blair. When her people reached out and said, look, she can't get into bed. She's just despondent to no end. They got Tony Robbins to go to rouse. They got Tony Robbins personal healer, Dr John Amaral working with her. And you know, I'm sworn to secrecy. I can't tell you who these people are. But these people are something else and what they're doing Selma. Blair is speaking that they know they can't reverse it or correct NS. But what what they're doing for her is amazing. She's got confidence again, which is one of the hardest things to even try to harness. If you got something as the billeting m s if you look Instagram you'll see many days when she was down now. But since my friends got twenty Robbins and his healer, Dr John Averill at her house. Things are changing. She's happier. She's saying she's walking better. I don't know what a mole means guys. I know mind over matter is very important. God knows my brother-in-law. Jack was the most important man in my life twenty some odd years ago. We never told him that he had six months to live when the cancer was all over his body. We didn't say that. The doctor said I'll tell you what I'll close my. But we'll do one more crazy fucking around and chemotherapy, it's going to knock the shit out of them. And we said, you know, what Jack would want that? He wouldn't wanna quit. He wanna go free. He's an athlete. He wants to go for the fuckin- touchdown the one one more time, he still going. He seventy five was twenty fuck in three years ago. But we never told me and six months swan all with this means with someone. I don't know what it means. I just think it's amazing that there are people like that that come down the people in their hour of the and they do things. Somehow ties into the whole Jay more beginning because him and I met when I was going through shit, and he's going through shit with ex wives. And I dunno man, maybe we overly to be nicer to each other. Maybe we're all going through shit. Maybe the people we see every night and every day and. Come across. I dunno. I dunno. I can't get to philosophic right now. But what I'm saying is. It's just better be nice to people and and being a national. Let's let's let's let's be nicer to actually see that said that I bet better things happen for all of us. I'm going to end the show now because I'm stolen on my sore throat. Even though you show that chickens who by prepared, but I will rally and I'll be fine tomorrow. And that's it. I love you guys. That's it. That's it. That is fame is a bitch for April first twenty nineteen. We've got on a March, and frankly, I feel fine. So thank you guys talk to you tomorrow.

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Timothy Omundson (ft. Selma Blair)

Inside of You with Michael Rosenbaum

1:38:37 hr | 8 months ago

Timothy Omundson (ft. Selma Blair)

"You're listening to inside of you. With michael rosen bound bound bound down bell ryan the day sir. Good day to you. Notice anything different in the podcast room. You know it's a little a creepy Wasn't the word. I was looking for like got that. It's all horror posters now. Took out the hockey jerseys and i just said you know i interviewed a lot of actors and producers and things like that i love entertainment of love har- so yeah i just started. I put all these posters in in here and I really like it. You can't really see. But i even have my urban legend post route as the just the one poster of me Where it's my chubby face in the bottom corner. Right next to jared leto and terry You know i like it. It's just different. I like change. But i don't like change. Yeah i like the same thing. I like eating the same thing like doing the same things. I don't like people taking me. And i'm i'm working on that because i think that's important to get out of your comfort zone. Do you do that Not a ton now No i agree. No change is hard. Change is hard and change is gonna come just difficult while we're you know. Just been such a crazy year for everybody. I know you didn't didn't get to go home for thanksgiving and you were very upset about that was because i don't like he's changes heart and i don't. I never missed thanksgiving. And i love being with my family and it's just ice melito go up and it always feels like a like a reset for me. My parents live like on a live on a mountain snow Rich the house is actually a very modest. I will mika. I'm sorry about that man. I i know that you love your family and it makes you feel better i. I haven't seen my family since my grandfather's funeral last thanksgiving and in years but You know the these are the sort of things that everyone's going through. It's not just you. It's like everybody talked. It's like you know people who are you know. I don't want to save responsible because the people that go then you say they're responsible but now i know people are being safe and all that stuff i it. Just it's eventually this is going to go away. We say it every week so it will go away we will. At least we have these thoughts of vaccine coming and home testing this and that and before we know it will look back and thank god. Do you remember that that was so horrible. I sweated audio remembers the two thousand to show. Shit hey guys. Thanks for listening Great episode last week with james roadway rodriguez and with delay hill. Just i i love those guys. I always lublin. Ryan has a good time editing. So you should watch the episode. If you haven't seen if you just listen to it but i really appreciate you guys. Subscribing on spotify apple podcasts stitcher watching and subscribing youtube. It really truly helps the show. And that's all say about that. 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I've said it before but in lately just a wonderful human being and tell some amazing stories and talk about adversity having a stroke unexpectedly and what that does to your family with us to your life and your career and how you navigate and So that's amazing. But before we get into timothy omen we have a very special guest. She and i did zoe. Duncan jack and jane Tv show she's been in Hell boy and cruel intentions and she's done so many things and she's wonderful and she's what happens. I saw timothy on. Larry king and larry said who is Your who do you admire. I think it was and timothy said selma blair. Salma has ms and she's stronger than most people i know. And she's been dealing with that and she doesn't do a lot of interviews but I thought that was amazing. I had to reach out to sell mine. She was so touched by it. And i said you know what would you get on here. And do a little intro. And she said sure. So i before we get inside of timothy amundsen. Let's get inside of selma blair cutie you you look. Look at your hair. I love your hair and you you know. I went to chris mcmillan yesterday and it always house. You know when you get a good hair. It makes such a difference. I looked like eighties mom yesterday now. I look like eighties asking me and you look younger than an aunt or a mom. Think even though you have a nine year old is nine now. Yeah he's nine my. I can't believe that one's a kid going to have you got a serious looked at me. No are we on. We're just we just record. We're just we're recording. That's all cool. But i'm really I won't do this too. We're actually having our conversation on a computer. But anyhow michael Of you and i mean kids are overrated. It's like a house. Guest is bad men and stuff. You know it's gotta be first of all. I'd known you for i mean i've known you since known you the longest and then we did our first show rose on my god. We did our first show. Educating matt waters with monica williams was nineteen ninety was in new york. You can like a huge in my life. And i remember your apartment to an alphabet city with and the guy that died in and the whole land how bad it smelled. Also my own bad. It was so hot and it was so bad. i'd come over and like gamble for off. Track betting remember. That had not be a car. I forgot that. I had not be and i would accept people's bets and it's fun and like my boyfriend. At the time length jason grows came over once and he's like a huge Light real estate guy in la la now huge huge. But he did nothing with us. I forgot so a guy just brief. So you know. This is a an intro selma but died in my apartment. And as we're walking in matt ni- diet in your building down the hall and hadn't been discovered for a week and i said oh my god what does that smell macos somebody died. I go no. It's like sour milk. The sourest evolve once. You smell a dead body. Sandwich to me is like shit samba. Equal sandwich and my sister was a cop in detroit years ago and she don't she find a lot of suicides or deaths in like is it's so fascinating to me. I love this stuff. You know like if i died in. I'm not found for week. Like i could be like look like five hundred pounds and might be hitting with body fluids and gases escaping. I wonder why don't sleep well with. Yeah so that happened and i. It smells so bad. There was that was the summer of incense bedding betting off. Track betting. listen. There's like. I promised you this wouldn't be long. And this is an intro. So look the whole reason. We're here is. I've known you forever and timothy amundsen. Who's the guests on the show. Today he was on. Larry king rentable incredible actor and he had a stroke a couple years ago and has been so brave and talking about it and like it really helps people out there and i know that all set him watching this interview. He says. larry king. So who is your. Who is your inspiration. Who inspires you. And the first thing he says is selma blair. And so a huge me you know is the best Is the best feeling someone that you admire their work. The way they live their life you again then they. They mentioned your name in any way. Never it's so flattering and this has been huge to to learn something so new. You know a this stage in the game you know. And it's any each to know about him in such a great recovery ease made in that That's what i learned to. I just started really doing really intense physical therapy. It's hard on zoom to do pc for brain damage but But a but a do it end in speech therapy and it helps immensely when i listened to him like saying he's really recovering. It took two years really from to get back to work. It made me feel so much better excited. I was going so slow. Yeah i mean it's going in and out but as my neurologist also says brain recovery is such discipline and it takes a long time into see someone put in the work Talk so elegantly like he does about it. It's i'm really happy raising is i assumed he knew you. Why else would you say some. Then i thought oh my god. Maybe add more memory loss than i think. I'm like rosie today to work with. I don't know he did xena. Warrior princess Spinoff we didn't work together. I was diane the warrior princess for a minute but it didn't. It didn't work out. So i really don't think i did but you know i don't think he did. I didn't know. I think that you honestly just inspired him by coming out. And that had to be hard. Look i want to just quickly. I think it's so important. Because you and i share something that i think it may be. I think we both to people that have always wanted attention. Wanted the life of the party. It's like selma going to do something. Up here goes rosenbaum. He's we've got to do something to fit in. At least i've always felt like i had to fit in so and i know you talked about. I think i talked to you about this. And you think a stress had a lot to do and we've always like if it's one person. I could relate to in terms of who relates to stress. For some reason. I just always dressing up with the little things. Also my body's number. Why are you worried about the contractor coming over this morning these still. I know you've been like really working on that and it's still dressed the thing like the things that we thought were little things they'll still you still activate yes. I still stress. And i'm working on our to help it. Let let me ask you. Do you think stress has anything to do with bringing out. Do you think it has a huge part of salute media. I mean i do I think stressed the mind body connection. Is i really hope that he will stop saying you know like there's just rain like oh you just have a brain. No it's it's because i go in and out you notice of speech patterns being imperfect and in some movement and I forget what i'm going to say. There's the point. Is that the. This'll be like one of the biggest What were you saying again. Michael the stress stress. You're saying to me figuring out how to get through. When i my brain just kind of you take your time and you just do it and by the way so it's stress and like so. How do you deal with it you know. I was born stress. It's my thing. I may be came from like a histrionic family kind of dramatic. Some you know. I would kinda dobson's that i wanted to fit in. I didn't ever think goes worth anything. So my only way to fit in with people have friends was to make myself the big joke. Or or not think nicely. I remember not being as kind growing by. Take in some improv classes. So it'd be yes. And i was always no but you know in turned it into this whole light routine. I do because. I felt if i did show up somewhere. I'd have to think of it as attaching stealing own to give something in. It was kinda thoughtless because you just then like way cutting you off. Because i'm on the verge of tears right now. Because i think i'm like looking at myself like what you're saying. These things are just like honestly like i found myself being emotional. Because i've i feel that way. I feel like i've always tried to like i. Just don't feel comfortable. I never feel comfortable. So i think we probably heard ourselves. The stress probably gets becomes overwhelming as central nervous. Systems can only take so much and mass. And you know. I also something called pots. That came about from them as a posture of static. Thing that all of us have when we stand up with Pass out but i like will pass habit anything. My heart changes rhythms. And it's just i see daily. How any stress how. This is not stressful to talk to you. This is amazing. Starts you but just me. I can't see the screen. That wow i get double vision at this thing so i shut my eyes and i realized that stress is stress so in are just looking screen. You know. i'm not upset about crime. But that's stress for my body for you going out a in heaven. People expect your funny my going on and so it's really everything. Put the stress on ourselves to accommodate Healthy mentioned trying get to sleep in. I'm instant gratification yesterday. So you like. I'll self medicate with meditation or negative things in the past. That would you know. Do all that news all strengths. The way i react distress you. That can be more stressful. And i absolutely think i just kind of burke myself out like sure. Probably united irishmen that people from that hemisphere That nervous system more but all these nervous system things which is stuff that you deal with two on. We've allowed in the world even before it got this more catholic than we ever thought than i ever really allowed myself to think you know what it is when people really have to stop and realize what's going on in mckay asked all that stress in my life is very privileged in my house. But i'm struggling for everyone By your pretty damn articulate. I gotta tell you like your mind like the way you were sounding like. My mind doesn't connect but like the way. You're speaking so much more eloquent than i really is really quickly and i will learn. Talk at are a lot of Getting these contractions in the not breathing correctly hauling down. Is that have commerce off down. I'm really calm now. Like i still like hyper and move too fast realized in another thing from watching timothy. He moves very purposefully and he takes his time when he talks end. When i do. My voice is clear as well in it. Changes your whole energy and this will take a lot of their beautiful To against my nature of rushing to please or rushing check out you know so. It's all stressful life for me as stressful. Like until now. At least when i did get a diagnosis. So much of what we want. Is validation validation disease on years. I don't want to hand out sick or knock. I love a handout. But i don't. I am not like it just feels better to connect with people and we've connected really deeply. Menial the fact that a lot of my friends Work i just find the more people try. Truly try is just easy less stressful talk to them. Is you feel. They're not so judgmental that's less stress. It's all this stuff. I think people might be thinking in. Things are worse. If i go out in public i move worse in it. I than i'm like. Oh my god is the psychogenic. it's all in my head Crazy you're going in and out and it really had to be explained. Just stimulants like The traffic jam or people coming at me talking section. But i can learn how to train. This in staying out of stress is the key. You're absolutely right absolutely believe all the diseases. I will give myself enlist lifetime of been an accumulation of light grief and how badly i might've dealt with it. Do you think like this look. I'm gonna let you go now. What what's the one thing. Or maybe there's two that you would just say that really helps with your stress and just calming you down ultimately. The first thing that comes to your mind does pass. I mean it's really. It's on my shirt. I actually wrote an home. Gums at you ever at hebrew actually ordered on amazon. Funny enough that. I really love it but it just means this usual pass and my mom always said at people in as you know christiane Ending the good and the bad. So if i'm feeling great. I remember this house so enjoy it then. Time with your son make sure you get on zoom with michael for this you know like but that's it like i just make sure do the few small commitments on cuban small end. Then settle in. It's amazing is it really is how everyone is whether you don't have to have a mask to notice. The difference is just more extreme. 'cause i get more traffic in the brain but this is how we are. Were made like as. I'm sure so many people who listen to you. I mean everyone is if you open up and it is getting settled. And that's what's happening in our world right now Hopefully settled in in in such a shift happening but Listen i love you so much. And i just you inspire me inspire timothy elements in but you inspirer so many people and your story and it just really. That's what life's about is inspiring people and telling your story and if it helps one person it's help that's that's enough. I agree it really. It really is is the biggest pleasure my life right now to see my son grow up okay to think that anything that i could do. You could do people. I know that anything we could do would help people neural. Because i think i felt useless for a long time. I never had a career path. Because i was so thrilled that anyone will give me a job. I would just candidate stuff in in. And i didn't ever think i was worth thinking. I would have occur. Almost an in just at thinking burns you out. And i'm a whole different kind of thought pattern. 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Once a long time ago we passed somewhere along long ways in the sutton place probably. We all passed the ghost of the season. But you and i actually met and chatted a troubadour. Oh yeah that was when we played after richard speight span or we open for them. Right yes sending. That's what it was. That was a blast but the way everyone talks about you like i mean i hear this stuff about henry winkler like. He is the the mench of hollywood the busy in another. Yeah like the nicest guy you'll ever meet and it's true. I worked with him and he's he's still that guy who checks goes michael. I'm checking in. I hope your dogs. Well irv. I hope everything hear it when he texts. You could hear it and With you it's sort of that. You know i get this feeling the everybody loves you. The best guy to work with and super talented. But you know and you went through this whole thing and there was so much handsome of definitely handsome wildly wildly handsome. And you have you have style. I like the glasses. I like the hat. You always looking astute. I will say that. Not only delay and james talk about you but everybody. I've talked to end. I had this thing called patron right. So people join patron the extra support of the podcast. And this and that. And when i just go hey guys who has went on the show. Do you know how many times timothy othman's who came up. Yeah dude you got like a fan base. It's not just the goes. The psychos are the the fans the diehard fans from psych. Exactly right. I just wanted to make sure now. The the one the cask with Johnson uncles yesterday hussy catcher You gotta bring up the skin cancer. Jeez well you know the reason. I brought it up was glad you can say well. Thanks again. I brought it up. Because if there's anybody out there who just like i have like my dad will check anything. Most people don't check anything. The thing is it's so easy to check something this was growing and then my friend cares like why don't you just go in. And just let look at it. So he said yeah. It's probably nothing they call me back and said yeah skin cancer. But you know we're not worried about it. We're gonna go in deeper. We're gonna you know so the whole point. I didn't wanna like and i even said it. I think on the show like hey i don't want you don't have to text tweet me and all these things. I just want you to know that. Just check yourself out now but thank you for asking about that so i thought it was really good that you brought it up but didn't checks i should yeah i mean with you i mean honestly before you had a stroke. Your health was pretty damn good right. That's the thing. I was in the best shape my life. That's what james said. He said this guy worked out. Religiously lifting weights. I mean you look down and you'd think he's indestructible was. Actually the problem is i. Between me i am i was working at across did suburbia dead left like personal Personal best heaven. So you're doing a dead lift other than a dead left and at one point saw stars would actually happen. I tore cleared are in neck. Which then led to eventually through a blood clot the rights my membrane mumbo. Monday or you this districts me out because i'm a hypochondriac at times and like the thought of going to a little more weight you want to put some muscle on your body and it's just like you're pushing too hard you didn't i mean were you going harder than you ever thought you'd like it would cause any issues now. In fact the the way up. Until i put on more weight was fine. Knock knock veasley so you can a glow more than just something went wrong it on what it was and no symptoms by the way not were there things leading up to the. I know you were like at a film festival somewhere. And actually the night before. I am in the screening of the movie as it was ending i experienced the worst pain headache. My life an ice pick in the back of my head just reading and i could not shake it no matter. How much alcoholics took. So that was gonna sim which i wouldn't think is not a stroke symptom me now. I understand that if you ever say. I've had the worst headache My life you hostile. Doesn't that sort of. I mean i know that when things like i've had a lot of surgeries and things like that but you know if like god forbid i had a heart attack or a stroke or something like that isn't it. Is it always in the back of your head that you're like should worry about that. I had a headache. Is it bad enough to go to the house but was it. Are you like on top of it or are you still not as crazy about it. Like any. Yeah know like this. This headache was like when i've never before and was yeah was in the middle of this. I couldn't go a just dumb. What has hostile all. Right so let. Let's rewind. I don't want to start with that. That's sort of what you kinda might end with. Perhaps but and there's your there's your mom with your your face on it. It's all right you by the way a great facial hair in a nice house by the way like the the roof there. Where where are you right. Now what do you live this little guest. You have a guest house. I've always wanted guest house which unfortunately gonna put the air conditioner. Hundred concerts zillion degrees. And we're hearing on straw hat. Yai good heritage. So you're you're actually really hot right now during this interview. Is that what you're telling me you're incredible home. Jack del arts listen so you you grew up in missouri in the midwest not grew up. I guess you're born. There was born in missouri. Valletta one group in seattle all right so missouri throw missouri away. You're not a cardinal fan. You're nothing you move to seattle. That's been knowledge misery. What's over right and so you were. Your parents always liked by the way i always. I always ask this question but we were parents. Pretty supportive growing up. Were they always like whatever. You wanna do loving. I love you that kind of stuff. I was very very lucky them. Coming from very supportive family loving knows great and they do both came the arts so theater to the symphony said. I wanted to be an actor. They were great really great. Because my dad i said i told him at denny's once i'm going to be an actress. A heat your stake. I'm a member. I remember was after a in college. He's like come on you own a college here. You're going to be an actor because if you think about of your father what are the is that my son's gonna make it. He's not most likely he's not if you are betting on this you bet against your son. I mean that doesn't sound right by taking a gopher state go to denny's exactly that was You know he took us to danny's but i didn't mind denny's but you know to have your parents support. I always say you could always tell when you meet someone if they had a good upbringing. Most the time like i. Just there's i've seen some interviews with you. I've there's just this genuine gentle soul. That's just a good heart. People talk about you so you know overwhelmingly and so. When i was too i knew you were going to say i had a good upbringing before i even knew anything about you. I knew it. Because i could just tell by your disposition of the way you carry yourself and there's just a certain confidence as certain like it seems like you don't stress out about the little things you try. Not to. What stresses you out you know where your parents they never fought they. Never you know the you had no dysfunction. Just deal with a lot of adversity growing up. You think Underlying grumblings behind the doors but nothing. It was place being thrown. I can tell you some stories. Oh yeah. I grew up in a small. My my whole family is from new york but we we moved from like. We live in connecticut for two years and then we moved to indiana. My dad was like i mean he was nineteen when i was born and then he was twenty five and my brother was born. He already had dodged my to my brother and sister from my mom's first marriage so look you know it's a it was a shit show but you know but having parents that are taking you to the theater doing all these things and there's love and they were opened like i love you timothy timothy. I love you so much always felt that right. Yeah it's like. My dad always made a qantas saying which was every day. He said it every day but he. I mean just wanted to make sure that i know has loved hoof. That is so important. People don't realize how important it is to just tell your kid. I love you in the mind. Even if they're a fuck up or you're you're worried about you know they're not doing exactly what you thought they'd be doing just to him that like. Hey i love you no matter what that is a huge thing for someone to hear especially growing up right absolutely minuit's little when you're twelve years on your dad senate. She's just you know i love you. You're like fuck man. Great thanks dad. Did of course not. He would've what would have been ruler across with me. He would have loved the amundsen eyebrow. And i can't imagine restoring permit her and let's the sin eyebrow it was the The right i can't work since disrupted because of the ira's really ever since the stroke. You can't do that. Because i can't look look at you and think there's anything wrong like anything wrong or not working on you but you know what are the things that are working Like if if. I'm sitting next to my dog. My dog legs by left air. I can't feel atmos settlement face. But i know the the is working. We're not just like both go up. Where the eyebrows before. It was a trademark my work as a lot of emotion with an arched eyebrow. Do you try to use other exercises. Are there things that they're saying. This could come around. This could come around. Yeah actually. I haven't really talked about the Vocal not what i used to be. We mean like. I had that sort of really rich deep voice which is not cut it really throaty just like when we were text about being articulate right. I didn't mean like intellectual articulate. I get a little mush mouth. Tennessee too fast. Now and just run run on early to work on slowing speech because everything could slow garbled so you purposely do you purposely slow down the way you talk just because you wanna make sure your articulate enough for whatever actually do it enough. It's not something it's right in my. And i think about it I think my text back to you. Just hang out with me for half an hour. And you'll feel so articulate. It wasn't like yeah. You will feel incredibly articulate. It's funny you brought up my skin cancer thing earlier because i'm wearing a hat. I wear a hat anyway. Doesn't matter i don't care. But i went in there to get a body check before they take the thing you know. Ripped the rest of it out of me and he goes. Oh let me take that thing off your nose like what out pre cancer. No big deal like jeez right so it's rather work pretty cancer. Yeah i mean you know. It's like he's gonna live your life normally not gonna worry about these things you're going to go about your business and this is what it is and that's kind of a really good message in a lotta ways. Look if he thought you know he's obviously be smart where spf in these things. Like this by the way we're kind of going back and forth but do your doctors say these are certain things. I don't want you to eat. These are certain things. I don't want you to do. There's gotta be a list of things that they kind of tell you right sure. What are those things with you know. Don't smoke and obviously is just a stroke not that i really smoked And then you watch my cholesterol one fifty one now. So the risk would Back to working on. We're working out talking about the pre stroke. So i lost weight. I'd always been sort of little skinny. Fat elliot's Hardcore cardio lost a bunch of weight. And that's leonard on way to punch muscle the the way that and that can be very dangerous. Obviously which. I just found on carplay right so you weren't getting help necessarily to do all these things to build you know body mass or whatever but you're doing it on your own but reading about and things like that correct. I was going to cross it. Also do lifting there. Which and i'd done for years and eventually going like i need to lift these weights humour. Because i've got so skin and puts weight on elsa vanity. Almost hollywood actor talk you know. It's so funny too. Because i don't think people people always talk about overweight and how they're trying to lose weight and i've always been real real real thin in fact i always got picked. Donner talking about your skinny or guns. You know but i. I was always getting but i. It's just hard. Because i always want to gain way got muslims. Visit the friends of like you look too skinny rosenbaum. You gotta gain some weight. And i'm like fuck you know so i'll hit the gym and it's hard. It's hard to gain weight. It's hard to maintain weight just as it is hard to lose weight in and i think for actress it's like we don't realize when the girls in their issues but for for men. What the checkouts. There's men's fitness. They're just much although the magazines may be one or more looking out. Yeah we're seeing itochu. Jack mental jacked up. Hugh jackman all jacked up. That's one of those tongue twisters. You say before you play. Did you do those because they know in theater. We do those rubber baby buggy bumpers. He thrusts his fist against the post and read other. Yahtzee are so hard now but do you. Does it help you keep doing that. To for speech and things and articulation. Yeah i think it does even sort of like try and do. Some wellness is just like vocal range. Warmer thought time. Yeah but eh. Did i do them today. No i didn't mention moan about big mush at the you sound fine. I was going to go star kind of like from the beginning in a way and work. But i'm like you know what fuck it. This is like this kind of altogether. Because i guess the big picture is. You're a great actor. You're incredible you've had a lot of success and you know there's so many ideas and things that i have and i usually think about black guests think it's therapy for me and it is but it's therapy for everybody else. It's like how do you how do you look. You have to be beautiful daughters and you have a wife in. You're good loyal guy and you know there's probably no moment in your mind where you're like. Oh my god fuck this. I don't wanna be alive. You've never thought that. I guarantee mental health. Much duggan. yeah i know. I've been very fortunate in regards where that's not for the other with. That's that's such a. that's a gift. That really is a gift. It's like you know. Because i know a lot of people including myself. You know when something happens. There's something about it. Even i've had these big surgeries and eight months out and then in horrible pain popped up on pills you say popped up on pills or pumped up on pills hopped up whatever this is. Why you're the articulate. One hair hopped up on pills. And you're like i you almost. It's almost it comes a point in your life where you're like young indestructible. I could do anything. Boom reality hits you like surgery this that and you're like wow i'm in the I mean one of the things a stroke. That's a big sort of topic around my life. Nobody's and people don't on me asking you like how maintain the attitude because we're coming decision really early on the party wasn't gonna help me either. There was this. There was a counselor at the clinic hours ago. A neuro rehab clinic every day in the early stages of my rehab. There was a counselor. I would see and it's not like how like great gatsby says every all the great what's going on how do you do. We'll talk while no. I think the big transferred to depression-era like you don't bitch and wine while in the icu. In a row slowly think sinking of what happened any a stroke. I i couldn't walk could to walk with a cage shorter distances now and now you walk with a cane rehab. Learn how to walk. I so we're leg brace. Is the the muscles around my my. My left ankle can't supporting should if i were wearing the brace for just Go down my left arms. Took my left hand and arm and does work some therapies for that. And that's slow but it's a little bit better than it was like for these absolutely nothing but now i've got a little short making slow but anyway so as me what the hell was going on said myself wasting. You became a successful actor. You being hollywood strokes. Nothing recovering This waterway see to put things in perspective like that. I mean what was it like that from the get go. You take me back to the point where you wake up in the emergency room or in the hospital and your wife's there with the kids and like what is what's going through your mind and what's going through her mind. What show i when. I when the strobe. I was in baffin. The airport night clashed my left late. went out to me. I collapsed. got up collapsed again. I guess someone got me out into the waiting area where there were some paramedics came tended me and there was shouting at me into doing the chapas show. Teeth tells your name. What year is it. Who was the president. I was with enough to think we might normally joke. Had been having suffered enough. But i i was with an up to waste your in florida first responders. He's will probably trump able don't crack wise. You need these guys on your side. Don't be ask right right right. So i was thinking that clearly enough to being in this. I'm in the back of amulets malaysia. Up like this. You know. And i remember looking at the detector my jeans i just noticed the weave of the fabric and it could hit me like this is not good. You you gotta get is not fun. Good every option. As i was waiting for the earth was gonna come take care of me or sitting in the sitting in the waiting area like a falling off the stool because i was trying to lean on this side not as was working so not knowing what was on. I kept falling down. I'd stand up and fall down. Gather mailing. I remember Summons not right. Oh fuck. I never did that. Merging thing on your phone near. He's ice they they're talking. I told them to call my wife. And i give them is founder and i said We got from the forget. Don't regret about gas dock. It happen if my wife's got to cut advanced screaming in on the phone your wife had your husband's had a stroke Temple immediately so the worst economic disappointments live on my god. It's like seven o'clock in the morning. So then she makes number. Two phone calls to her. Best friend is Who sweep in swooping grubber kids and take care of them then. It was only like months later after. I'm home that my oldest daughter lily confided to her mom that she was just in such terror for long time. Not knowing what those are just doing the. I was taken in hospital so i mean for as much as it affected me much for much beyond that. It's affected everyone in our household so it's almost like you know you go probably through a process in in a sense i. This is extreme. It's probably not a good analogy. I'm not full of great analogy but if someone passes away you go through the stages right you go through or any kind of law she go through. You know the the grief the anger the all these things are probably in a sense like this happened to dad. We're going through this. It's the trauma of it all and then re dealing with all these stages that they have to go through. As i assume absolutely in fact i think that affected my daughter nor probably more than lily. She's asleep much since absorbed little more. So when we set out staff madonna. We're all still trying to grasp what lab with the brain injury. You don't know what you don't know until you can presents itself like for me because it was right side. Injury affects different. Things effect the left center right hemisphere injury will take the left side your body. Although some things go with attention. Like i couldn't look to the linkages to like look at somebody Distracted it really bothered. Miami started could not charter us. They really had to work on once. I was made aware of with dubai cognitive therapies. How long did the something like that. Take ongoing for months. Say to find out what a little better and make an alone. God's getting better he's living. I know as So anyway alison my beautiful wife. And i sat the girls analog okay. Look this happened. Obviously and it sucks so we got to figure out what what the message is here. I said the best. I can sort of do. Is i think the lesson here's bad. Things happen life but it's finding them at defining so part of my recovering. Drive to get better was always. I gotta get that. These girls got to keep working for them to get back to tribeca something about a week before having a stroke lily hiking up running kenya or we used to cheeto inaugurated every day. But a lotta time she would come with my door. I gotta get back to that. Candidates just invite in london by to what are the overwhelming driving force. Who's always mcdonald's. Family is crazy when this happened to zenith the my career and then professionally and personally alison. I just bought like the husband. Dreams would win tenures to buy religiously escrow and happen. So i'm in the icu. In with her. Best friend. Johnson johnson end to my best friends from from high school. And my best friend me. They all fly into her and she's fielding calls from our mortgage broker are we cling his deal Torture because i was not in my right mind wake about these fever dreams. Going keep the house i want. The house was dreaming. Rehabbing that pool right so it looks like we're gonna make decision by keep. The house gave the house but financial advisor was florida. He drove in. Don't keep the house for it is unforeseen medical expenses. Because i'm gonna say you think. I think i been kicked out because i was my creek kind of into a massive halt and working a little bit but surely not sellable. I was before so my income is certainly up in question. 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And you just hyper focused on it with all this craziness happening. This is bad. I just remember like when my grandmother died. Who's like i just love this woman more than it was my first real terrible loss. I remember you know here on the answer machine and it was like my aunt. She's like michael. It's it's denise. Please please call me back as soon as you can and i just knew and i remember you know the cottage cheese ceiling. You know that your extra there was one dark dot. I think i've talked about this by on the ceiling. I remember staring at it for fifteen minutes. And just sort of just zoned in on it. Kind of taking it was just this hyper focus like evaluation of what. How are you going to deal with this. Prepare yourself and certainly comes at at cox's him exactly and it was like this is what you have to do and i went from absolute fear and just devastation to i've got to call my mother and tell her that our mother's dead. I'm the one who has to call these people. I have to be the same one which i mean. Look at me timothy. It's not easy to say that but It's just because here you're obviously incredibly brave. And i just keep thinking you know such a great actor and you are and then right after this you know. They're able to for psych for the doing a movie lassie returns. Which is kind of a twist on your character's name right. In my coach called an so they called colosseum come home officials the titles and they had to read figure the script to kind of get you. They wanted to get you in there. Yeah so especially the. We did two moose. The first movie happened. As i was just after while i was in really the big throws my recovery filming the first movie so james roadway and steve pranks are created shall hold up joys right across the street from someplace. Adela banker which was our kabar clubhouse. Is that the three days. Rebuilt the entire mobile. Get into a cameo. Which shot back here. So i shot so they can make they wanna make sure i could get in to to make insurance to get paid. So reducing hold onto. Am based on. Call maggie lawson again. Just the love of these guys should have made to give me in the movie and then the second movie was all about his recovery. Just think we're back shooting in the show. So cnn again were standing outside here in the backyard is james to help me walked to the front of the house walking. Hey road couldn't walk at all. As i do walk. So it's like that where Near there was when i was doing this clinic. We've ever done that every now. And then was like a group a group chat with him. Soon be asked to. Speaking of this guy who was on older sort of very salt of the earth was a farmer longshoremen. Leno bit how he hated being in the clinic in before the clinic. We're in a halfway house. Strokes resentful living facility Learn how to take ourselves a little bit in wherever we can but so the washington suddenly go from being a very private person having is on twenty four seven talked about living in this role and how much aided then he said. The best thing that ever. I've really taken Honor the milestones so with recovery have to honor the milestones to like. I used to not be able to walk. I have an an album My phone commercial real just videos me western learning how to walk again just become a little milestone of like trying to get my animal would spend a lot of time sort of a texting Messing with sending video spent comport with franson uk. Becca does just as my voice was then. What's amazing is you know you're doing this. And the one thing that comes to mind for me is. Shouldn't we be doing that all the time in life where we're like. Hey take this moment man. This is a great moment in your life. Take this moment. don't go past just say this is an achievement. This is accomplished this. This is this is a and. I think we do that. I know i. I i do it constantly where it's like being grateful but in your position it's like the condition annual like you could think. How can i be grateful but like every step along the way you are. It's like these achievements. And you're like i am going in the right direction. I am getting better able to walk. I wasn't walking. This is this is all my god. You know people take for granted. Like i could see things every day. Some people can't so. I don't know it's pretty. It's pretty powerful stuff. It's a you know. I try to go to bed every night and say what are you grateful for. Don't think of all the shit you haven't don don't think of all the bad things are going to say about yourself. And then go into nightmares. Because that's the stuff that gets you the nightmares. Why don't you think you know positive things and so it's just it's just amazing. You know i will say like your cat. The cast were with the cast from supernatural in the cast from psych. How unbelievable the did they come. When did was the first time they saw you. I mean when they came and saw your policy. I know james delay can visit me in by rehab clinic at lunch. One time at one of my physical therapists. Rebecca herbeck was. He was a huge fan and said that psych was the show. The guy who med school kind of tricked me at like. Here's this woman who's helping me to learn how to walk and psych is the show. The helped her get her through that that really took in college to do the. Wow who didn't keep their shit together. Someone had to cry immediately when they saw you know. They're all pretty stunning. Really none of like you know. There's that thing where we gotta be strong. We gotta make him laugh. We're going to do the do y'all fuck fuck. Assume they were crying on the inside maturing strong for me right right but while i was rhythm covering those guys Movie and while they would filming it would semi Videos of tradition on our show singing the of desk magnets for never on a singer had like there was a guest. Are we really loved or directors somebody who really got along with. Who's like one of us and they were ranked would sing hardware thing but it was just. How birthday in may we love. You are a camera operator. Who shot every scene of that series. It was really hit i note. We'll we'll all had a band in Crew band so the note of just this big old. I and we all knew it was on an entire cruise for if the note and two hundred eighty would seeing this amazing harmony version of a birthday and the person who was thinking what is going on we'd applaud is just. It's just the way of saying. Hey you're one of us. You're one of us. We luggage right. So while i was recovering. And they're shooting a movie with team. Tim and am with semi videos of them. Shooting vancouver's singer were they may which in that's going to start the gummy friends like that friends of that. Show that really. Just help me together motivated to go the while. We should probably while she lets him with ninety by by facing like here in vancouver she said stored the entire crew kinda got gathered around her to support. Watch you because it was really emotional Me so she burned. There was a mess that day and our city came up and said ah behind us. She saw the whole the whole crew. Waiting there for. Obscenity is the most amazing people by the way the happy birthday song. There are people that at the end of their shot shooting. The they didn't get a happy birthday song because no one could stand. There might have been made names. I had to think he just couldn't say it would be kind of like if you did it for everybody. That's really kind but if you say you loved working means we love. You had a few. Like i ain't saying this fucking song and i certainly not harmonizing for those asshole up the hannah camera. Exactly what with somebody basic guests on show number. Which ones right. That's amazing show like vancouver if you count up to the weekend. You're you're into the show. You're gonna be there for the weekend. It was going be dinner. We're going to be drinks that if you drink so we were really social. Group in social with our guest cast right. Yeah i always thought it was like one of the best shows to work on. It was just incredible from so many people. Always like psych psych. You know the people who is just so easy and so fun in know james in fact delay. They'll i mean they said something like they just wouldn't allow assholes to come on so that policy they make a congo. Hey this guy's not. this can't happen you can't you. Actually that that is not attitude of being a great show which we all took great pride in being a place you wanna and work on. Came from james and delay which ones i know. Who's gonna win the most james no jenny james washington. Seven delay was definitely a massive part of that. Let me ask you this. How hard is it to be realistic with too optimistic with what your doctors should telling because you hear stories where they'll say. Oh you're never gonna walk again and then the guy's running marathons you hear service can see can never really believe when doctors say. This is as good as it's gonna get Is a big party. That's like five years from now. I'm going to be able to do ninety percent of what i used to be. Able to. A seventy percent eighty. The nobody's really said you're never gonna do this again. Although at the time which. I didn't realize i learned this later. The apparently told my wife my neurosurgeon was number. Walk again. i walked into a restaurant with my own. Was meeting my manager. My agent for dinner and every time the like. Oh fuck look she walk down. Restaurants are hard because historically stairs division break melissa Any you walk into a room which is overwhelming to just to be able to walk into a restaurant. I never been a good to the table. And saddam and good. Jeez you look good. You're walking allison. Told him that what he told me. This i do remember very specifically being in the icu. Every day my surgeon livia show on one one valdivia. Thank you for like one of the best neurosurgeons in the state was on call. That night did with him a few months ago. Obviously pre covid was blown away by your recovery. It was very sweet everyday. He would come in we we. We talked a distracting and he reminded me of the number of the bed. I was in my left foot to see. If i could feel it. And i can never feel it. One day. he takes the wheel into a into a room and he shows me my cat scan and this portion is this portion is all gray and i remember thinking oh gray matter gray matter it was totally shadowed because you can see with the stroke so much brain damage on that side said so. This is where you stroke. It was massive. 'cause i gotta tell you most people outside a stroke like sat back. What do i do with that russian. Fuck now i do discover deductibles when they talk about i think he's bravery the handsomeness style style style. Talent talent overwhelming talent. Sag insurance secondary's pronounce things. Like keep it you will let or the bravery thing and it's a lot of good. Bob reached saying You're an inspiration. That's really lovely. In fact i've got this issue of my fancy should Daughter signed on. Roken i love it so we were selling these to a company called stands to raise money for the association to bring awareness strokes while stroke prevention and rehab but broken thing. I just want to. It's not a brand new idea but can think about how you can bend a stick or tree branch to certain point until it breaks like. I'm not broken. I'm unbroken and so to this meeting other strokes virus get a lot of really lovely interaction was saying it's inspirational but i agree with you on address the Early enemy gone. Yeah i'm finding find Wallowing they're not going to wall tea party in the corner or that's one thing. I mean warning physical health or mental health or emotional in a lot of ways for people like even dealt with it. I haven't really delved into what i can't do. A really try and focus on what i can do rather wanna cantu. But how brave but I haven't really sat in it too much. Because i'm almost afraid type almost rate if i do get there if i do go to the point where the angry. They won't be able to recover from that. So might have just been sort of student but again i don't know that's the healthiest way to go. Well i gotta go into. Yeah because it amazes me you know. I think gosh how many breakdowns would i have had within the first month like just like you know what i'm sure and it's just like i. You know everyone has different ways of dealing with you know. It's amazing. I think you know what i gather briefly what we talked about in the beginning. Just this upbringing in this love and then you think about your family and suffering through the depression. You've got these two wonderful girls you get this wife and you've been so lucky somehow in your mind you've been sort of programmed inadvertently or whatever that you know. That's why you were able to put things in perspective like you. Did the way you handled is the way that that's of course how tim is going to handle it. Now but also is i was always optimist was always a. What's inside the kind of guy. You got to be an actor because you come to the time you like. I'm gonna try to do this. They give you the numbers like if you really listen to the numbers no whatever. They tried us of course. Of course nobody's going gonna work. Nobody's going to succeed because let's shot. Let's let's keep going board. And i've always been a It can always be worse kind of guy friend with a terminal disease. Like what am i gonna see her. H cry. Because i can't walk. I can't run guardia. Sue these look around plays a prince and ask who are having really difficult time so i know a lot of people that are much with situations to me i think just having a perspective of always been has helped gonna look at things differently now at him the situation. Yeah and knowing you're loved by the way knowing the overwhelming amount of love that you you've been given that's math it's massive. I think that has to be such a big part of just like so. Many people are rooting for you and like the fans in the psychos. And the i mean it's just i could tell him having mad being loved that much i mean being loved is important alone but being love that much has got to give you the strength or help with the strength to get through. Things really does absolutely does knowing that there's could give a shit of doing that day and I don't want to go to the clinic. i'm tired fog. My leg hurts my friends who are rooting for me. And the goon different fans out there who just so pulling from reaching andreas ways. I gotta get a massive gotta go do this i i wanna let donald the myself down my webcam. This thing on the show doesn't of how great a job as don't have to go to work. I get go to work. It's nice you want one of my best friends from seattle. Ism any honors during covid. So he's under stress because we check him quite a bit and our other is a very positive man and during the ebel really long day. We'll check. I held to help some really vulnerable Would sick today like he just faces every morning waking up. The going gets good bug to help wounded like well. Thank god you got out of bed that day of several years ago. I can't you time anymore summer when it was the can't it. I can't. I can't tell you how was ten years ago. Could been years ago have been twenty somewhere during psych season. I was fortunate enough to get to go to the middle east. His troops in qatar for week at gold cambozola which was the main our base for with iraq and afghanistan. so soldiers were coming from the field for Vr or arner thirty. I'm not saving lodge sushi to shoot. Shoot these men and women to appreciate it and want him talk. Show guy like the base like there's a pool. There was a bar and a nice gym. And what do you think is this. Okay because sir three busy day and nobody's trying to killing is eight okay and that really just appears article three visit exhibits. They will give you tickets like three beers in in the young in the bar so Side told me the story. Whatever we bitch about odd Far from it again again. How great a job is always something. Is you off like our how far from the far. What getting for one we She look at me. Your outlook go pay three beers a. Okay shut up. Good wind bitch. She's like this. It's amazing how you put things in perspective and know you say that you know this is look i mean. That's that's what happens you you you make a decision either crumble. Or i could you know but like all overall do you really think i'm going to be back on my feet and i'm going to be acting. I'm gonna be strong. Is there a real reality to it in terms of like or do you just say i'm gonna get as i'm gonna keep going as hard as i can to get. I mean what what do you want. What do you want to do. Where do you see yourself five ten years from now. That's the million dollar question. They all need to keep plugging away. Because i do see myself. Getting walking's getting faster and stronger. And my wife picks the click woah. She'll say how was school today. 'cause scope you'll never know what i did school to that you believe it. Give these updates the other. I was able to Like i was working on. This is us and there's a line on that show. I play a stroke survivor. And my line is. I'm just trying to walk. One is my go. Rhino swap. One thousand mile -oday Took like wanna walk out eventually. One day i was able to get a half mile. Are you going to get a mile. No problem it was one day where i realized i looked at my watch. The doma run over mylan ass from those working on the treadmill in the morning. And when i got tonight's work on again so sharon senator my friends and say look this shit wile A readjust my goals. Another things that i wanna do. I wanna get back. I was a big fly fishing. So i may never weighed in a in a river again. My buddy clifford own super cool cliff. Cliff camman on the call. You get back to the Cliff whose main fish buddies weightings of the both beer on kind of a left hand to Work the lineup. He'll fish these guys semi. There's an adaptive road order that. I'm trying to work out but I was able to put this align lassie come home which is all about Last year's recovered from in shot a stroke. Or i say it really made a lot of what was going to in my own life emotionally and jason steve were great about stood talk about you know what if i don't get better. What am i gonna teach leader fish with one. My daughter shows name also lily which often rightfully so so. I say how long did teach lead. Flatfish would just went hand. Things i really am trying to get to. But i'll prominence unnecess- number to release says it's gonna be that anybody. They did I gotta go on. I know i'm getting better. This legal neuro places. Which is the brain rewiring so seeing effects of it with the fact that my left arm entirely flaccid analogy there is a movement. That's got to be a good feeling. I mean it's it's you know in the beginning you're probably thinking you know i the row just seem so long you know ahead of you and then it's probably a you hit a point. Where like oh well. These things are starting to happen. I'm seeing. It's gotta to be really exciting to start to see this kind of go. As as time goes on i mean. Obviously it's probably a little impatient to the come on. Fuck an arm you know. Yeah i got. I got to put the work into get there. I mean the main thing i have. We'd like gonna see here. We're like that was thank god. That might wasn't taken away. I should change. It was like it just me ticket. Funnier up as trump. god bless him. So it's got my sense of humor. And hope i so i i of hope like we have a solution. on instrument Hard time this. What you have is hope. She's gotta keep an and it's one thing i mean. I'm lucky enough that i was able to fight. I was not overwhelmed by melancholy. If you want to call if you want to be an eighty s Debbie time say. I've got melancholy was a one i was able to to go. I'm going to try and fight this. The people who can't who don't have the ability to do that well. It's certainly inspiring to hear someone you know talk about that and just hearing you say this is the way you have to do. The only way you're gonna get better if you're going to be melancholy and depressed and angry at all the time that's just making it so much harder on yourself. Obviously but we don't think like that but if you have the ability to make the decision to say hey. I'm going to stay positive. I'm going to each each achievement. I have. I'm going to be grateful. And that's the direction. I'm going hearing that from you. If someone's out there or other people that it's happened to. I think that is incredibly encouraging in that can change someone's mindset because they look at your progress i think. Progress is got a judge. I mean everybody's cases obviously different globe. They have a with a stroke or traumatic brain injury. Some kind of when your brain is affected. It was going to heal differently. It depends on how quickly how quickly they got. Hell they want to get into therapy and thank god. I have health. Insurance covers therapy. Yeah all right. This shit talking with timothy amundsen. This is from my patrons who get to ask questions. So there's these rapid fire. You could just go whatever you want. But shit talkin shit talk jennifer ask timothy. I love both psych and supernatural which care to was more fun for you carlton kane. How do you choose which maybe loved the most easily. That's hilarious that i would say a got. That guy was good day p. It's obvious of the close knit family atmosphere on the set of psych. Does that spill over in everyday life. You get together with others. On holidays we ends are a meal. Yes codes broke up. Spent the last three christmases with maggie and James which is weird thinking issues. Like we're not w via an undercover. Chris christine party but do i was just texting yesterday. Trying to get together for distance drink. Yeah i'll i'll do a voice memo off singing a song. Who sings this. And james immediately get it and do it goes. I don't give a shit. I don't care i don't care about these songs and then every once in a while i'll get one but Let's see chemistry. Danny sorry here. He asked the chemistry on psych. Was just amazing. So that's the question. Daniel 'em how much did you enjoy playing almost god and lucifer. I enjoyed it. Immensely is very close to home odds. Finally they're all. It's right for me. God almighty did tiles is are so freaking blue so as again a great now getting with. Tom seems like a nice guy. A lot of shit unbridled for my blue eyes it critical. I put in. Did you love hearing that onset. Go gosh is a crew with the makeup artists. Come over to you can go to your eyes just pop. You got that admit it. Sure of course is reputable. Gosh they've probably pop angle. They have one hundred mil on you. And it's right up to your chest and your eyes. Just blow d- buddy these. Are they doing a good right now. Okay to turn your true exactly where the lights perfect. And i won't move. This has been a credible. And i already feel like i love you. I want to hang with you and give you drink. I'm not a big drinker. But i will come and have a drink for sure. Not like i won't drink. I just don't suburban. I'll bring you over some wellington. I made some wine that Stephen mel he was like you wanna have your own wine and your own labels and you taste them and so they sold them on knocking point wines or whatever and we got to make all the stuff and so i still have tons of bottles. Because i'm not a big drinker. But i'll bring you over a couple of bottles good porch we can there. I would love that. What does your doctor say about you. Drinking well. I did have seizure once after A night of a few twenty scotches and maybe one seventy burst but also wasn't taking my season medics caesar side to be look. Here's the one one trick stroke. Alcohol does infected. What used to takes a long time and a lot of boost to get a buzz. Going which is really freaking said does something for trion. Oh wow hey lasley go ahead. What does the problem is awake with a lot of headaches you do always wake up with headaches. I always been. It's like. I realized if i'm gonna have because i don't necessarily get a little buzz of maybe during washington. Tv binge tv night. I'll have a glass of wine. Been very more because i'm senior washington. Tv's during then what i like and like why did i do that. Right on a hangover. But just like. I should be drinking but I mean minorities has said no. Don't do that right. Says enjoy the be smart. You're like but i can't. I don't get drunk so easily. So i have to drink more wine. Well just to give us the whole thing like navy. Don't so i think again because hey listen on larry king you said someone inspires you and i thought that you guys knew each other but you said selma blair know. I don't know someone. We think we're instagram friends. Well i text her after. And i said i sent her that. She's like oh my god that is so you know. And she so she was so i dunno she really loved it and i go well. Why don't you do an introduction on you know. So i think she's gonna come do an intro for this interview and just kind of talk about her thing for a little. What's a few minutes and just 'cause it was like she does. I mean. I just know her through her. Social media posted see the strategy. How gracefully. She's handling her struggles of giving a single mother an that z. She has this this gal. Who's never could go something gardy. Yeah she is. She is freaking strong and she's so honest and forthcoming in. Just you know. She's an open book. I've always loved the batter that she is an open book. She's sort of like this. Is who the fuck i am. And there's a lot of credit for that. I've been learning how to do that more especially having talk. Because she's sorry to interrupt She is really been an inspiration or she's one. Because at the time. When i had a stroke i was really cut a hiding the accident. I mean i didn't want to work again. I i didn't want certainly if woma disability interview my was getting work and so i never was really never had pictures in the wheelchair and me now. It's constantly different delay. He'll actually we shouldn't secondly in vancouver and we went onto kit speech which places having lived in bankers along like interest on the beach and there's a. There's a wheelchair matt on the beach. Which is a lovely. So i was walk out on on this maps for standard alison Picture me standing there. Which is i actually love and Zone is like you know you need you in the wheelchair to Look at this motherfucker. Like he is liz life. Yeah it really. It actually turned my head around. He was absolutely right. That i looked at would some oppose him. How on a she wasn't and realize how much inspired me and thought well. Maybe i can far as well and to not be hiding this. Well you have. You've done amazing job of that. And i think it is helping a lot of people. It's gonna help a lot of people and you know rob benedict telling historian the podcast jamie lynn. Sigler telling her story about ms and you know and selma just people opening up. It just gives people hope and at the end of the day. It's like you know. I always think you know when my time goes. I just want to say. Hey i i help people. I had a good heart. I wanted to do what i could. Those are the things that i think that you take with you and i don't think you think about them very often. Obviously when you're younger and you're going through hollywood and you're like doing this and you know you just and then one day go. I can help someone man that is to me. That's life that you know. I always noticed. I'm the happiest and most emotional. When i can help someone you know especially when it's altruistic when when it isn't like oh you know It's sort of like you're doing it because you just you have to do it because you feel it. It's not because you're like. Oh this'll be good for me. No august impress for this. That's not what it's about. You know what i mean so like. I said when the local news would air styled with celebrities working to kitchen over thanksgiving not want to keep it on the down low. I mean obviously it's nice healthy with like a look at me feeding these or cable man but i am saying no. Yeah but it's the difference between people just sort of doing it because they just wanna do is not. Because they're getting press relate mark messier. It was a hockey player. Nhl great. i've said this before. I think but he said you know the character of someone when you watch them do things when the cameras aren't rolling when you see how personally are when the cameras aren't rolling in that just sat with me and it's like that's exactly what it's about the fact that you and i are looking down the platforms. We do like how do i use i good. And how blessed am i to have the social media which is lovely for my ego but like how can i really do something like. I'm not just checking my lie under alikes. I'm trying to do something positive. I sort of hit a moment gathered. the flashback His way doug wednesdays. I found i was just hosting. I looked awesome. Look how cool. I look at this picture. I'm going to post it and trying to come up with a tougher gratitude. Tuesday or thursday going who i was so grateful for. Yeah i think it's good to mix those up. There's no reason why. I'm still posting pictures. Right awesome yeah. I was just gonna say for the moment you know the other day. I posted a an instagram of me because they had this app on snapchat. I don't even use snap today. Just use it for the little pictures and the things you could do to your face. And then i saved them. I don't use snapchat. But it was a balled. One and i was lex luther again i was like and i posted like what the fuck and looked so cool. I was like holy shit. This is good but it's you know. Look we have a platform. So i think it's it's great to say. Oh there's a really good picture of me Here's the one of the things i do. And hey let's this is Let's save lives here and let's help people. I think all those things are good. You know some awesome michael. We're really incredible. That's the theme of this whole thing. This podcast was so what we've really done it. Yeah good for us. Good for us timothy. Yeah youtube back at you. Well listen happy birthday and do this. This has been great. I really i loved every minute of it. And i hope you had fun. I can't wait to get you to this person. We're going to do the wine thing. And i and by this is so good because so many people that can. I think they're gonna love this. I mean your people love you. So i think this is going to be really good for all right. Well i'm gonna keep in touch and bother you every once in a while so get used to it. I'll i'll be to it all right much. Latino man thank you again love. I love you to see you there. You have it guys. If you enjoyed today's show please please subscribe and on youtube. I love it. I love you watching the videos telling me what you think i do. Go back and and respond to a lot of them. Look at all your responses and your messages. And i thank you from the bottom of my heart and Mature subscribe on on the audio. Keep listening and telling all your friends and we have a great episode coming up next week. It's going to be a big one. And i've been trying to get this person for a long time so you're gonna wanna stay tuned to see that as i think you're going to really love it. 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Marvels Black WidowWorth The Wait Or Too Late?

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Marvels Black WidowWorth The Wait Or Too Late?

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What's going on okay. This time because it's just it's just not stop enrolling in. And i love it. That apparently legally blonde originally had a potential ending with reese witherspoon and selma blair like being together romantic. I saw this on twitter. And i was very sad. They did not choose this. Yes i was reading about it. It was like for a lot of movies. You know and all the rewrite there's tons of potential different endings and apparently in this one it ends with them like on some beach holding hands. And you know you know. Maybe it's gay. Maybe it's not. But i choose to believe it's getting. It's that very like two thousand one like wink at clearness not going to say it but like maisy. I love that because you know like selma blair is already like in my book for being like a part of the queer group because of intentions and that yes in the park. I know well listen. They are making a legally blonde three written by mindy kaeling. Sorry luke wilson. But i want to say i do feel bad for loopholes. Okay okay so moving. On the nc a. is finally letting college athletes earn money through sponsorships and off their own images and likenesses up until recently student athletes weren't allowed to earn additional income but the nc double a. Announced that starting july first college athletes will have the opportunity to benefit from their name. Image and likeness. The policy is a temporary measure. Put in place while the nc double a. Works with congress to develop new official national regulations and not long after the policy went into effect colleges like louisiana state university and university of texas began pushing student athlete influence or programs as one promotional tweet. Put it. there's no better place to build your personal brand that the city of austin and the university of texas. I mean what a time to be alive that this is what's happening. But i mean i think it's way past. Do you know. I have some mixed feelings about the ethics of college sports but as long as they're happening and as long as these universities are making like many many millions of dollars then the students should be able to profit off of it to fashion. They one hundred percent should be and you know. I'm not an expert in this area. But i think like you. It's like it's my understanding that they do not get paid to play college. Sports right do not do not which is wild because it is it is wow is it. A moneymaker oh yeah. It's a huge industry. You know so. I think it's truly wild that these colleges are now writing programs like these influencers programs. I mean it's bizarre that university of texas at austin. It'd be like this is the perfect place to come. It is wild like that. This is what is sparking the potential change exactly but hey cash those cheques because your college shore is well in more positive news we really have to talk about. Fourteen year old zeila avant-garde who just added script spelling bee winner to her already. Very impressive resume. This is his second time competing in scripts be and her. Winning word was maria a genus of tropical trees. And you are a way that is correct. She told npr. I can't even put into words how i feel right now and added thanks to bill. Murray whose name she said helped her figure out the correct spelling of the word. Not only is out of the first black american to win the be. She's a basketball prodigy with three guinness world records under her belt. Including one for most bounced juggles. In one minute with four basketball's stephen first of all. I'd already watch this clip and listening to it again. I did start tearing up. So that's where i am today in is such a pure video. I'm so happy for her. But yeah as soon as you go on twitter you then see every other video in tweet saying hey hold up. She's not just an amazing speller can also do one million other things. It's true incredible. And she's funny because if you watch the class. When she knows how to spell the word she liked turns the judges and she's like is it possible that a certain american comedian would be inside of the word and they're all giggling. I mean it. By the way i also loved the script. The script spelling bee airs on. Espn no it is a sport. I love i mean. She's actually an athlete with all those very true. Very true. congratulations. That's all all right. So moving on. We haven't heard this in quite a while even though we talk about marvel all the time. But there's finally a new marvel movie out hitting movie theaters and disney plus thursday black widow is projected to become marvel's biggest opening since two thousand nineteen. And it's been a long time coming. This standalone marvel film also arrives eddie. Weird time for the original avenger after her death and after years of being placed to the side as black widow finally gets her own movie many including us want to see it as a move towards female empowerment in the marvel cinematic universe buzzfeed's nor dominic are unofficial marvel. Guide is here to break it all down. I know that you so much for joining us today. Thanks for having me guys. So i know you've been waiting for this movie since it was announced at comic con several years ago. This was an extremely long time coming because of the pandemic so we need to know. Was it worth the wait. Are you still processing it. All we need to know all your thoughts and emotions right now and so. I got to start this off by saying i've somehow accidentally already seen this movie three times and it came out yesterday. I don't really know what happened between like press screenings and then all this stuff. I'm seeing it again. Tonight chaos ensuing. I loved it. It was so funny to me. Because i was so excited about this movie for a number of reasons and i got even more excited about it like after game because i was one of those people that like i never really thought of natasha's one of my favorite characters. She was kind of just. They're always and i enjoyed her but then after game and like her death. Hit me so hard. Something going into this i was like. Oh i'm so excited and it. It was so good it was such a fun movie. I think it's one of my favorite like solo marvel movies between i think the cast is gray and the actions great. It's directed beautifully. And i really i. It was worth the way. And i enjoyed every second of it. Oh okay so you know again. It's finally here in the year. Twenty twenty one but ten years ago or even five years ago around the time the film probably should have been made. Marvel was still a different marvel for a long time. There's a lot of talk about whether or not people would pay to see if email that action movie and you know now. We have captain marvel under our belt and black widow. This film have been made any other time than the present i almost. There's still a part of me that thinks it would have hit little better in the past. I think part of the emotion of it is like you're sitting there watching this movie and you know how natasha's story ends like you know it's not a happy ending so i think that drove a lot of the emotion in the film especially for me like the moment that made me cry. A lot of them were tied to the fact that like oh like this is all we're getting scarlet and florence pew like this is it so that was a little bittersweet for me and i almost wish it had come sooner so we could see like this growth and natasha and see it before we hit like infinity. Warren endgame right. Yeah that makes sense. Yeah basically the movie situated between after the events of civil war and before infinity war you kind of get that back story of natasha of like where she was before she popped up in scotland and help say vision and wanda so like that's really nice to know but i almost wish even just for scarlett johansson like being the only female through most of this marvel phase. I almost wish she had the chance to do it while she was still part of it. Yeah one hundred percent. Because in in that regard i it definitely came too late. You know but i'm wondering. Do you think like the metoo movement had a big impact on the film. I mean here. We have a marvel movie getting into issues like sterilization and the mistreatment of women. In general i mean. How much do you think everything. We've been through the past like three to five years has impacted this movie. I think it impacted greatly. And it's also like you really have to look at like. I love h of altron simply because it introduced me to wanda and it was great to see them on screen. But joss weeden directing a movie where it tried to deal with the red room versus cate shortland directing a movie that has to do with natasha's backstory is vastly apparent in this movie. And i think that's why enjoyed black widow so much is because like k. And the writers like one of the writers as jack shafer who wrote wanda vision. So it's like it's crafted with such a female lens. And i think that's what natasha was owed. So yeah i definitely think just like everything that's going on especially like scarlet spoken of about. How like she hated black widows costumes in the past and like lizzie olsen is done the same and i think marvels come such a long way with these female characters. It does feel great that this movie has come now where it's like. It's being treated the way it should have been treated. And we're not watching a sexualize black widow and you mentioned this movie was made like with a female lens and not just the director but also this is the first time they hurt. Your was written with female screenwriters. Involved in scarlett johansson was an executive producer. How crucial do you think that became the overall making of the film. Do you think this would have been a very different movie if they didn't have that. Female lens put on it. I think it would have been such a different movie. And i think about all this like i always think of like birds of prey. And there's that moment where like they hand each other a hair tie and put their hair up before they fight and it's like those little things and even in black widows those little moments that like you probably might not have gotten if a guy wrote this or directed it. And i think it's interesting because scarlet knows this character so in depth that you can feel like what she was able to put into it as well and i just think like giving her that free rein and then having jack help write it and direct it and even like florence being on set and it being such a female driven movie i think yeah i think it just really helped the story in this character and you can feel it when you watch the movie all right. We'll be right back we're talking about what's next for diversity within the mc with buzzfeed's nor dominic summer is here and unique vintage dot com. Has you covered with all the cutest new vintage inspired styles get the latest and contemporary ready to wear dresses swimwear shorts robbers summer tops and accessories in a fully inclusive size range from extra small to five x unique vintage dot com summer collection offers a wide variety of animal tropical and floral prints all inspired by classic vintage fashion. 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Yeah the movie really dives deep into like the family dynamic of it all and i feel like that's something we haven't quite like we've gotten it with thorin loki a little bit like that brother dynamic but there's something so different like this is very much a found family and i think it even makes natasha when she's like crying during endgame of after everybody's dusted it makes that moment even more impactful because you realize like she's had found family and lost them and gain them several times now so that was something that like really stood out to me in this movie and i think it's just gave her character like more shoes more. Three dimensional. I feel like than i've ever really seen her. And i don't know if that's something to do with like she's leading this movie and it's all about her or it's just we finally got into a place where like people know how to write her but that was really great to see and then also diving until like the red room and like what yelena and natasha had to lose because they were like basically made into weapons and that like they never had a choice whether they can have a family and they were ripped from their parents and natasha never knew her mom and her dad so all of that stuff is export. And then like you. Also get the heightened action of marvel. And i think that was done really well in this movie. I love what you said about how. This movie gives like the most three dimensional portrayal of the character. We've seen and i know. Black widow has a backstory rooted in her sexuality. Can you talk about how the film tackles that. Yeah so black widow on the comics. It's just a very kind of like the mci she was one of the like. I like female comic characters. That people saw a lot along with like scarlet witch and all of those kind of characters we now know in the you so it does tackle that a little bit. There's a great scene in blackwood. Oh where like yelena and natasha. Really talk about the fact that like they can't have children and they didn't have a choice. Dives more into like that side of natasha. Which i always appreciate it because it was always such kind of like a throwaway age of altron it was like oh and she can't have kids and that's why she sat all the time like. Oh that's not the case. Thank you for yeah. I think it's like like we were saying like she's so much more. Three dimensional in there so much more to her story than being like like even like when they had the random hulk romance it was like. She's so much more than that. And i think this movie does a great job at like giving fans of that character. A place where they see the character. They've always wanted to and i'm just kind of sad. It came at the end of scarlett. Johansson's run in the so some die hard fans i e purus wonder if marvel can push forward with more female superhero movies while still staying true to its comic book origin. You know does that get tricky. Do you think marvel will be able to find that balance. I think honestly. I think black widow and one division or great examples of that and we'll get it with hawkeye. Kate bishop will be a lead in that And i think like one visions a great example because like going into that show people literally thought it was going to flop like i remember tweeting when the first trailer dropped being like. We're all going to be talking about. Elizabeth olsen into years and there were people in like the comments of my tweet being like. You're so wrong. Who the hell wants to watch scarlett. Which i don't even know this character. Who wants to watch it and i think the storytelling was so good. It did not matter that it was a female lead and it didn't matter that it was these characters that we didn't really know but the story was so good and i think with black widow. It's the same where it's it really sets up the future of the especially with florence pew so just as a foreign fan. I'm really excited for it. But i think it proves that like you can watch a marvel movie with female leads and the stories great. And no one's gonna care that it's centered on captain marvel or black widow and then they can also change it up like elizabeth olsen has never really warned that hyper sexualize scarlet. Which outfit until she wanted to do. The campy outfit in one division like. I don't care that. I'm not seeing her in that outfit. And she's got her own great outfit. That i love so i think those little things and just like it being treated and written. Well we'll help carry it. Further in we'll see more of the female representation in the lgbtq representation in that kind of thing. Yeah and speaking of the future of the marvelous. Certainly not the only franchise reckoning with its past treatment of female characters or its lack of diversity in general but obviously black widow is a meaningful step in the right direction. But i'm curious in your opinion. Will this continue. Will we see things. Become less bro. Centric and more inclusive as we move forward with these movies. God i hope so just as like a marvel fan like i mean like you get it all the time like people assume like i'm a girl and i don't know what i'm talking about and hopefully were you know getting past that and that's not always a thing. So yeah i think with captain marvel and then black widow. We're getting there and even tore love and thunder like natalie. Portman is very much the lead like one of the top leads in that movie along with tessa thompson and even like hawkeye. We're and we're getting this marvel and we're getting all of these other female characters going to become so important even when you look at loki like that show is riddled with female new female characters. So yeah hopefully we continue that shift and black widows. Actually the prime example like there are some amazing action sequences in black widow. So it gives the like the classic dude. Bro marvel movie while also like being about natasha. And it doesn't really matter that it's about her So i'm excited where things are going and there's so many great characters coming up and i'm excited to see what their you know movies and shows are you're making me excited to norah. I'm so ready. i'm ready. Well thank you so much for joining us today. Thanks for having me as always. That's it for today. Come back and join us on monday and remember if legally blonde three is gay then signed me. The heck up signed me. Daily is produced by dan. Daza joshua burnley tanya boustos. 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Episode 563: The Demon in You, The Demon in Me

Overthinking It Podcast

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Episode 563: The Demon in You, The Demon in Me

"For April fifteenth two thousand nineteen it's the overthinking had podcast episode five hundred sixty three the demon in new the demon in me. Welcome to over thinking it where we subject the popular culture to a level of scrutiny at probably doesn't deserve the over thinkers are like your smart funny friends from the internet. We're never happier than when we're hanging out together. And talking about the things we love very often the movies we love and this week. We are talking about the number one movie in America. Are you excited guys? The number will actually honestly by sales. The number one movie in America is probably still Aventures and game, which I'm sure is outselling still pre-sales, whatever. Whatever drek they're pumping out in the box office. Now. No guys, were you aware that someone remade the hell boy with the sheriff from stranger things in it. Because I sure as heck wasn't. I mean, it sort of my job to stay up to speed on these things. I mean, I think we do it was happening. I think there was the question was whether we were. Going to do anything about this. And and I will say right now before anybody gets too distracted. If you did not if you have never seen a hell boy movie keep listening because is not going to be required. Reading or to understand the rest of the podcast. It's not complicated. Yeah. Well, yeah. Fair enough fair enough fair enough. Did you know that help? Boy was coming back, Mark. Yeah. Yeah. I've seen the trailer. I celebrate David purpose entire catalogue mainly stranger things stranger things seasons. One two. I was like a like a tiny bit. And I really enjoyed the original hell boy is well, I think it's great character and had tiny bit of excitement for it. And it's all the hey, it bombed. So it was like their original one is on Netflix and free to watch in the pleasure and comfort of your own home. So, hey, why don't we talk about that? Instead. It was it wasn't deep pleasurable and comfortable because I watched it on a couch much more comfortable than any movie theater and much less expensive as well. So yeah, that's what we did. We didn't watch the the this remake of hell boy, we went back and watch the two thousand three thousand four teen years ago. Wow. With an aunt an early film. I guess I should say an early American film of Gehrmann del Toro early early in his career, making spoo- keys, and Emma, and there is a fish related tie-in. To you know. In give them a del Toro's, recent work, and and in hell boy. So we watched the we watched it on Netflix and YouTube can watch the two thousand four hell boy on net. And you know, what you should we recommend it as a as a fun way to pass fun way to pass an evening on the couch at home. So so let's let's just let's just go around the horn. I dunno pizza. Did you enjoy revisiting hell boy? I mean was it was it fun and a good experience from you. Or was it like was it like being being attacked by godlike creatures from another dimension? Really like the two thousand and four hell boy. And I kind of feel like there are certain things that the two thousand four help away does that are still worth talking about. And that are notable among movies of this sort of John Gina. It's important to note that the overall plot of the movie and kind of what happens from an action and adventure standpoint is not that thing that it does. It's more like you're sort of panning for gold in this movie and you'll find some really nice nuggets from cast. That's just really really talented and a director. Of course, it's one of those movies that if you bought low era portfolios looking great in terms of saying like, this is a movie that in the future. I want to look back and have liked so no, I I li- enjoyed watching it, and it gave me a lot of thoughts and a lot of feelings. Definitely provoked a lot of feelings for me. So I don't know Mark. What did you think? Did you enjoy watching the two thousand and four hell boy? Yeah. I appreciate it. The camp and silliness of it more than anything else right in particular, the villain sue the slick motley crew of rescued sin and a couple of Nazis began. Why not right? And what are the what are the Nazis is dislike Saito masochistic gasmask wearing knife blade, dude? Who was like kind of reminds me of v for vendetta? But like is evil that you describing without using the word steam punk or cyborg. Oh, yeah. Also of that. It's like it's delightful. It's titillating. It's all these good things that you want from entertainment that doesn't take itself too seriously. Okay. Let's let's delve into the nuggets. Because PM I'm completely with you that like I'm completely with you that plot wise the. The movie is nothing particularly ground breaking the characters are great. They're well acted. And there are you know, it's it is also really really good to look at. It's like it's the unique visual style of guarantee Toro, and even though it does like the last. I don't know forty minutes is a lot of CGI punching which which I'm really fatigued by I guess, it really was early in the canon of CGI punching. And so probably, you know, has to be looked at in the context of its time rather than, you know, judged by the standards of the the marvel cinematic universe or something like that. So where where is where is a nugget p like, let's just pick one get and hold it up to the light watch it gleam and examine it as though it were a reliquary from for, you know, saints. The body parts. You know, that's still contains mystical powers many many millennia later. So I'll say this. There are a lot of movies that claim to star an anti hero. And there are a lot of tents in comic book related movies and coming books in general and TV shows and various sorts of entertainment media to create the idea of like an anti hero. And I feel like the hell hell boy in the movie Ron Perlman as L boy in the first held way movie is a really feels like a really grounded meaningful. But at the same time kind of adequately fantastical and kind of unreal articulation of what an anti hero could be and might be and maybe even should be. I think that hell boy, he might he might be my favorite movie anti-hero Ron Perlman has held Boeing. That's a bit of a stretch. Because you know, there's a lot of really good ones, and you can kind of lend. Arguments. Like, well as John MacLean, Nancy hero is the Terminator in Terminator two anti hero. But I think that that there's something special about the emotional landscape of Ron Perlman's hell boy, and I guess they'll Toro's hub boy. Oh boy as well. And of course, the help way of everybody eroded in the sort of collaborative help way that emerges from this project. Right. That to me really speaks to what anti heroes are doing. And why that kind of both makes sense and also kind of nourishes the soul a little bit. So that would be my anti heroes. Their Pete to like explain why life is hard for white men. Right. Like, Tom soprano or welterweight or or house? You know house. Don't like his his life is hard. I'd say that there's a couple of different approaches to what an anti hero could be. It's not a particularly it's it's a word that doesn't have a particularly concise or even uniform definition, but the help the anti hero. That's being presented here is. Somebody who has moral problems that that can't act in a fully moral way because of some aspect of their personality or their makeup that kind of induces them to not want to write. And so they not only not only can they are the incapable of acting in the sort of morally coherent, kind of what you might verbs like lawful good, or which sort of white hat cowboy kind of way. But they actively choose not to act in that way. But in the panoply of choices that they make they still end up making choices that are heroic choices in the kind of new early modern sense of heroic not the kind of ancient sense of heroic in the sense that like they save the day. Right. That that that that one idea of like, the Tony soprano idea, the anti euro is that it's a protagonist. That's almost like a sort of really retro kind of dramatic like like old school drama version of an anti hero where there are protagonist. Who's? Evil. And and yeah, you might root for them, and they might try to accomplish good things in their life. But they ultimately fail at being good. And that's the sort of Tony soprano Walter while it is true. It's I'm I wasn't a fair question to ask provocative those. That's why. That's why do Pete it's provocative like Tony soprano or Walter white or house to forget about a house. The you know that that like, yeah, it's making a sociopath. Your main character is not the same as as having an anti hero. And it's interesting that your your definition kind of centers around motivation and not disposition, right? Interesting. Yeah. Because like you could say that that like. John McLean is a police officer, you know, and he doesn't he doesn't go looking for trouble. But when trouble finds him he acts in a way that is you know, that comports with his job to protect and serve or to. You know, what I mean to like enforce law? Right. And like he has a sort of a flamboyant style, he has, you know, maybe a disposition that's not. That's not sort of white Knight. That's not lawful. Good. You know, that's not like Paladin esque, but the his bone Ovation's our heroine motivations in that. Like, he wants to do the right thing either because it is the right thing or because he is the guy who does the right thing or because it's his job, or, you know, for for whatever kinds of whatever kinds of ethics are virtually thing. John McCain subscribes to but he's trying to do the right thing. Help way not necessarily trying to do to do the right thing. Or doesn't have a set of motivations that comports. With what the society is motivations are who uses him, which is kind of an interesting break down a little bit, right because hell boy is a demon. Right. But in what ways is he really d- monarch. So help spun. So helpfully is a demon because he has a if he were not to intervene in a conscious way in his own choices. If if it let's say this hell boy every in boy, there is a notion of Taylor of purpose in people's lives. Wherein people like events and things might sort of carry forward to a natural conclusion that the way that you were born or what you sort of become through this sort of moral luck of your life might eventually carry you through to some sort of natural conclusion, Nazis or Nazis Americans are Americans. There are these sort of grand conflicts. And and what help away invites into this is a notion that your own desires, right? What you what you want and not just in a sort of a grand moral way. But even down to sort of a hedonistic sense that the sort of. Surface level desires for what you want have an interaction with your kind of inborn t- loss that can potentially bring you to a position where you act in a way that is in contradiction to the way that you were destined or board to act like they're like if you give people the things that they like that they'll respond to the things that they like they'll seek out the things that they want mirror. Mirror. Ruth, candy bars. Yes. This is a movie in which a candy bar makes somebody a good guy. Right. Which is I think fascinating. This is idea that like, oh, well, how do you? How do you make the demon into a good person, you positively reinforce the kind of behavior that you want to see by connecting it to. And then over time what you're going to end up with somebody who is terribly morally conflicted because they don't understand why they've can conditioned to act the way they are and attempts to resolve some sort of identity that reconciles what they're feeling which is a combination of like, indoctrination unmet, physical and emotional need. Right. And it's sort of like conflict with whatever it is that their own physiology is telling them that they need to do which in this movie is also manifest in like a very dysfunctional relationship with sex and sexuality, which should be very easily identifiable to adolescent boys is like those the Pete his porn 's are not really horns there about a four for something else. I think you know, you say that Mark. And it's funny because it's so obviously true. You having said it that it's amazing that I wasn't thinking about it during the. Sort of his voluntary castration at the end of the his voluntary symbolic castration. At the end of the film is. You know, a crucial moment for him. I think so because I think help boys a movie that's about. I mean, we've we've been talking about what makes hell boy in anti hero. What makes hell boy kind of in this sort of weird relationship with with bad Merle choice, right or choosing to do things on grounds other than moral grounds. But talking about the moving more, generally, this particular movie is a movie where all the characters have some form of kind of emotional this regulation where there's something that they can't do with regards to either attachments or kind of self actualization or or or like love or happiness, right? There's something that they can't experience or let go of that they're constantly struggling with. And and it sort of not about fixing those things, but about kind of like how people the way help boy puts it is find a way to live with it. Right. Which is that hell boy is is the product the way that held boy in two thousand and four would not work today is that hell boys moral landscape is the product of a fundamentally. Unjust, cosmology. That is not interested in the moral. Good and his alternate solution is to find a way to live with this conflict. His ideas, not like, oh, I need to go kill cathedral who so that the world can be result can be resolved to the good, right? I'm not going to find a permanent solution to my problem. I'm going to find a way to live with it. And this involves kind of like finding somebody to love who loves me, even it's for screwed up reasons. Right. And sort of like, an even if you have to castrate yourself in order to prevent yourself from being disruptive because you know, that you've been preconditioned to have what kind of dysfunctional or toxic sexuality. Right. And so like hell boy knows that were he to really follow his desires to their fullest. It would hurt everybody that he cares about and tortures him. So he cast he like he beats himself up, and he kind of deprives himself right in order to I'm going on this really as a Catholic movie, by the way. Yeah. It is very Catholic. Sure. It's very interesting. But like, you're drawing a triangle Pete that I think is is interesting. Right. And it's it's roughly sort of nature nurture and your own thoughts, and like self image or self or ego. Right. I guess I guess it's like it is nature. Superego is nurture and ego is your own kind of your own thoughts about yourself your own kind of. Moment by moment. Sort of shifting outline of what what you think what you think you are. And so like nature sort of acts on you and what you've called for conditioning acts on here. Right. You've I the I act without understanding why I act, but I do these things because I've been conditioned to do them. And you don't understand that you've been you've been conditioned to do it. Or or like, you know, the the labrador retriever doesn't understand that here. She has been bred to love swimming. Right. But but my goodness that dog is happy jumping in the pool in the movie, this is manifest when like the guy brings held boy giant pan of pancakes. And hell boy is like why are you doing this? Right. Like, he knows he's gonna eat pancakes. He knows what the routine is. But he's like why what what is? He doesn't understand. Right. He doesn't under. Sorry, continue continue. Yeah. Exactly. It's it's. Why it's to paraphrase from the avengers. Like, I'm gonna ask you a question where are the pancakes? I'm gonna ask you a question. What are the pancakes? I'm ask you a question. Why are the pancake? Oh, that's like that's the that goes into that goes into this sort of material world of of nature kind of biological substrate or sort of a character based or cosmological substrate the. The nurture the who are pancakes. The who question like the behavior that kind of forms personality, and then the individual sense of like, wait, what is going on here? Why are why are the pancakes? Why do I desire pancakes, some tasty pancakes today guys? And and wire the pancakes is is a question that I think we could all spend a little time thinking definitely and those pancakes, look delicious, like so again, if you haven't seen the hell boy movie, the movie has it's sort of Luke Skywalker figure it's sort of like audience surrogate who has a young FBI agent who is assigned to care for this demon who has been sort of recruited to the side of quote, unquote good, but who still has a rather problematic way of doing things and who at some point is probably destined to destroy the world, but has not decided to do it yet. And in the meantime, we'll work for the federal government and wear a duster with a soul. Patch it mutton shops because he has decided that instead of being evil. Going to be awesome. And a lot of sumo wrestlers top not kind of thing. There's all this stuff about this Hellwig character where he's he's acting out cultural aesthetics about the restraint of the impulse to violence. Right. This sort of like the contextualisation of the impulse violence fighting some sort of a reason why he wants to hurt things that can make him proud of himself. Like, oh, he's like Lorenzo lamas from renegade. Right. Like, that's what I kept thinking. When watching this is like, oh, it's like MAC from. It's always sunny in Philadelphia, but kind of more serious and adolescent where it's like, I've got this. Cool duster. I'm like this cool guy. Right. It means. I'm not this horrible abomination. And. Yeah, the top dot shows. Like, oh, I've been you know, I've been reading. I've been reading history history books about the semi readings show gun and his side that like this is the way that I'm going to handle myself. You have the top non it's really interesting. It's all really interesting. But but he's he people give him food and his friends give him food, and that's one of the ways in which they maintain the the belief that there is friends, and there's other ways that they do it, and they kind of earned it over time. But but the main interaction is they keep boy locked in a vault, and they bring him like deli meats and candy bars and kicks, and he sees this as sort of like a familial relationship. Similar to an adolescent kid who has to stay and you dinner with his family, even though he wants to be out causing a ruckus. All right. And but they can't let about because if people see him, then they're going to Israel, and that's a whole problem. This is a digression. This is neither here nor there. But like the difference between sort of industrialized mass produced food, and you know, homemade single one off produced food is. That mass produced food looks good in quantity and homemade food looks bad in quantity. Right. Because like, yeah. Contrary country your suggestion that those pancakes looked good I thought the pancakes looked kind of gross. I thought it looks like a trough of slop to me and a lot of that. But you know, a stack a whole bookcase full of baby Ruth, candy bars that would be a thing of beauty, right? And that like that added aspect, I guess packaging or homogeneity homogeneity or. I I don't know. Maybe they're just sort of different thought categories, mass produced, food, and and bespoke artisanal food. Yeah, we can't let go of this because my favorite scene in the movie involves this and I want to get back and ask Mark about Catholicism. But we gotta talk about cookies, I because my favorite scene in the movie is what hell boy is always stocking his crush because help boy doesn't act in a moral way because he's an anti hero. Right. And he's like there's this girl that he grew up with because she also she has these sort of drew Barrymore fire starter powers and play by Selma Blair, and she when she gets distressed she explodes in fire and kills everyone around her. So she was also in the same sort of holding facility slash secret agency that help boy was in as a child, and she's since tried to move on and rejoin society by going to a mental institution and getting therapy and help and help boy misses her and has the sort of Iran. Feelings for her as well as this sort of like attachment problems where he's like, she left me. Everybody leaves me. Right. Like, I need her back and not really seriously considering what she wants which is because he's an adolescent, and and a bad person in certain ways. And so when she goes out at a date with his co worker, which is all kinds of problematic. He follows her and his like leaping through the rooftops dark. Knight return style, wearing a duster stalking. His ex right. Is crush or whatever. And this little boy is like oh my God. It's hell boy. I've seen pictures of you on the news, you're real. And he's like, yeah. I'm on a mission. Right. And there's that wonderful Mirroring where he's looking down off the roof, and there is the pairing of some of Blair, and that B I Asian guy, whoever he is and and on the roof, it's Rupert Evans, I guess on the roof. There's the pairing of hell boy, and then the little boy. So and so it's it's a scene of a little boy looking at adults and hell boy. Feeling like a little boy looking at adults. How do I move into that sphere? And the little boy, it's couldn't even as help feels alone. But help always actually in a relationship in this moment with this little boy, and they have this commonality, and this kind of and and help the little boy who also is incapable of fully relating to hell because hobos giant demon decides that he's going to do the only gesture of affection the supreme gesture of affection he could possibly think of which is go downstairs and get his mother's homemade cookies and bring them up and share them with hell boy, along with the delicious looking glass of milk. And so like hell boy like eats the homemade cookie the first one is like, oh, you're gonna eat that in the eats the second homemade cookie, and the boy is like so happy to share his cookies withheld boy because he doesn't know how else to connect with him. And he's like is excited about him because he's seen him on the news. Right. I would say, yeah. That those pancakes looked good to me because they look like real pancakes and those cookies look good to me because they look like real cookies, and then there's this idea that there's some. Something about this exchange of food. That's nursing the baby Ruth is being included partially a sort of an old fashioned candy. It's not a Snickers. But, but I think I think I think you're right in that like the stack of baby routes would be more appealing and the idea of like giving someone a baby Ruth to give to him is kind of an artificial simulate grim of what you really need to do to make friends with hell boy, which is to either give him cookies or give him. His father's rosary. Before we move onto the Catholicism. Let's go to tie up the help what? Character arc. You're right. Because it's explicit in the movie that like the old caretaker surrogate father figure says the new FBI agent like, you know, you have to help hell boy become a man, he doesn't say hell, boy becomes a hell, man. But that's. It is implied strongly. Does he become a man by the end of this movie has progressed from the child childish attitude like we described about the rooftop into something more mature? And if so how I think you have to say that he has it's tricky because the epilogue tells us that he has, but the blogs of these things often, tell us something other than what is really happened has helped we become a man, I would say that I want to hear what you have to say about this too. But I would say that hell boy has become capable of being in a relationship, which he wasn't at the beginning of the movie, he's capable of having a sort of a hetero normative relationship with a woman, and which is like the ending of the movies. Not the best part. Because it doesn't really make a ton of sense ways. But but it would help way has done is. He is he has gone from a situation in which he is conflicted about who he is to a situation in the bat has described his triangle between nature nurture and choice. Right. Like sort of what he refers to as as it's super ego and ego and help boy by the end has realized that has has established the primacy of choice among these three things. And you might even say that being a baby is about is about your your nature being a child is about your nurture because your your parents is your manifestation of your need. And you're you're living in the context of whether you please your parents or not and then being an adult, you know, is about choice about about are you really taking responsibility for who you are. And what you're going to do with your life. And have you also come to terms with the fact that it's not going to be perfect, and you're going to have to learn to live with it? And in that sense. What makes him capable I think of having the relationship with the with. Woman because he's able to recognize that like it's not he's not going to be able to change his face to make himself different from what he is. And she's not going to be able to change her brain to make her different for who. She is. But he's realized that they can choose to be together, and that their particular sort of mental problems actually dovetail nicely into a possible relationship, and that they can kind of like leave the way in which they're, you know, parental institutional figures have dictated how they ought to live to live in the way that they choose. And so in that way, he's a man. And he's also a man in the sense that he's confronted kind of mortality in the cosmic sense and come away with it from the idea of like, okay? I kind of know eventually what's going to happen to me. But I'm choosing to live this way right now for the time being in case help away it's not necessarily that he's going to die instead of actually is going to destroy the universe or the world or whatever. And he's not going to do it now. But that's kind of an adult choice to say like well at some point I'm going to die. What am I going to do at the time that I have as opposed to like, oh my God. I'm going to die. I'm going to pay my eyelashes black, and and and, you know, cover myself in a fish net. So that I can't get out the door in the morning because a triple the giant sack of fish net. That's over my head. I'm gonna like express my agony at the unfairness of my existence to the universe with this predisposition of a child towards an adult that the idea that somebody is going to come and fix it. No. They're not right. Being an adult is like, no, they're not going to fix it. You have to kind of take responsibility for it yourself. But that's how I would say he's sort of becomes a man. But met what do you think? Yeah. I think choice I think you're emphasis and kind of concentration on choices is exactly right. And it's I I go into it as as sort of saying like in his early life. Hell boy is kept in the cage. And and he becomes a man. We'll become we help become adults in the sense that we internalize the cage. He's sort of start to. You start do. Behave behave in the way, that you're in the ways that your parents, you elect you elect autonomously to to behave in the ways that your your parents would instruct you to behave when when you're growing up and to put a mill tonic notion of obedience, right? Sort of look look. Yeah. Exactly. Right. Well, I mean, you know, hell boy is all about the hell within him for within him. Hell he brings I link it to the rosary that the John hurt character wears because the John hurt character. Where's the rosary around his neck? It's sort of in circles it restricts. It's like. It's not just decorative. There's this aspect of it. That's kind of like a leisure collar or something like that the the the divine caller of the rosary. And then you know, when young young MC FBI soon. Throws it to me catches it in his hand. And it burns them in his hand burns because he's a these demon. But it it becomes kind of a Mark on his person, you know, rather than being and an external constraint or rather than being rather. It's funny. I guess he grows up in the sense that he goes from being Catholic to being Protestant, right? Whoa. I'm like that. Because let's do this. Let's have the religion conversation 'cause well so passionate fellow schism is distinguished by its Sacramento theology. Right Catholicism is all about signs and symbols of things and scientists symbols could art good music. Good. The special liturgical signs and symbols that are called sacraments are are good. And that like we use these things we use a kind of metaphorical language or a kind of theatrical language of enactment and. And art and physical and sensory information, right? As a as a sort of gateway into spiritual truths. This is not true of of Protestant theology. Especially the kind of more doctrinaire not contemporary Protestantism. But a more doctrinaire. You know, Martin Luther type of thing or the the American kind of puritanical Protestant is which was really about stripping a lot of that stuff away bear white walls in the church. No rosaries, no signs and symbols really about more a kind of direct contemporary give communication and how to theology of predestination right in the predestination of the elect the people who are. The people who are. Who are what destined to to go to heaven? So sorry, I I was just kind of linking it up in the in in in my head with the conversation that we've had before. So like, actually take those is the two poles of this sort of the the the nature and the nurture actually the nature being the Protestant way, the predestination the idea of me, you know, blindsiding Pete on this podcast and seeing PT does your life have a purpose that is that is a puritanical idea. And that belongs to the like your demon you're destined for this. The nurture side is the rosary side is the Catholicism's side. And he actually he actually just revise what I said before he finds kind of a middle way. That like, and I think the the Mark of the crucifix part of the rosary Anna's hand. Is a pretty good symbol of this. Combining kind of external and internal thing. Combining a piece of jewelry and a Mark on your body as an aspect of who you are. Who you are materially in who you are morally. And and that kind of in in marrying these things he kind of thematically transcends, the he he synthesizes the dichotomy that that we're talking about. I would even add that to me it seemed like once he was he was a blog moment where he contemplates where hell boy those of us who've been lost a little bit. We're in the final confrontation where hell boy is going to either bring the evil could do to earth destroy the earth or decide not to which the weak points of the movie because it's like, hey, how about that thing that you were going to do that's going to destroy the world us don't do it. Great awesome. But he's looking at this cross that it burns on his hand the rosary burns on his hand. And I kind of feel like at a moment. The cross looks something like the sword icon of his his badge. The badge of the agency. I don't know whether I'm important porting that or whether it's something that's in the shape of the cross the cross also look like a sword. And the reason that this. Resonates for me is that we then go into one of the other big visual like very specific visual religious symbols of the movie, which is Saint George and the dragon right now is it Saint George is the Saint George and the dragon or is it Michael? And the I okay. So it's in Michael slaying Satan because there's ask you a bit in their headquarters, but the statue of Michael slaying Satan to me looks I cannot I cannot graphically like the classic statues and depictions of Saint George and the dragon. It's all the same idea. Sure. Yeah. Right, right. This is the idea that like there is this sort of holy defender, who is holy warrior defender force of nature, kind of like above human level thing that needs to kill the monster. And that this is a sort of way in which the sort of glory of creation is made real. And it's it's a Saint, right? Like, the the the same to the person who kills the dragon is a Saint, right? The person who CEO Dr Satan from heaven is an angel. Right. And and so after the moment, we're helpfully is contemplating the burned cross on his hand not crucifix across. He is. That's not. I think I'm connected with what you're saying here because the rosary has a crucifix on it, right or generally speaking. Yeah. Really, I guess it's not I guess it's not a hard requirement. Yeah. Yeah. But the difference being a crucifix has an icon of a picture. You know, an image of Christ on it, whereas across does not necessarily and that sort of division between a Catholic way of looking at it where the courses medicine symbols are really important and secret and stuff like that. Whereas Protestant way where it's like symbols are artists and artifice gets in the way of truth. And and what we really want is kind of a personal experience of truth. But he's contemplating the cross which might also be as sword. And then he becomes the angel. The Michael archangel fighting Satan slash Saint George fighting the dragon, and there's almost like a Tableau kind of thing where he's up in the air looking down at the giant squid monster that he's trying to kill the giant tentacle monster ultra charter that is just hatched out of rescued his brain. This movie is so great. And then there's this moment where it's like. Oh, okay. It's very similar to the moment in the iron giant where he says he's superman, right? Where it's like, oh, the creature that the creature has finally mastered their own concept of identity, right? Like like, I've gone from being a devil to being an angel. And I that is within my within the scope of my experience, if not my own personal power to do this. And so it's like like he it's notable that help boy makes this sort of holy bullets that he uses himself. There's something about this. Hell boy character that aspires to being this sort of holy warrior. But at the same time, there's this deep self loathing, and since that, no one will ever love him. Right. And and that he's totally alone. And he's this prisoner. And in that moment where he's contemplating the rosary which has met said was like a burden for his father. He then like incorporates it into himself as this sort of sort of a mega duster a sort of like larger this sort of Lorenzo lamas writ large, the kind of Lorenzo lamas. He would weave a tapestry of hang in the castle, right? I don't know Mark. How you brought up the Catholicism to start out with what I wanted to talk about one really one thing in particular, which is the the reliquary of the saints because it's so frigging weird. If you're not familiar with it. And I think it doesn't forum or conversation of the movie. Okay. So in the movie, there's specifically referenced like, I think hell boys are typically made bullets as well as something that he hand to eight Fishman, which is like these things contain relics of the saints. Yes. Specifically what we're talking about? Is this real thing Catholicism where? The tradition. The fake holds that certain body. Parts of certain saints are more or less imbued with magical powers. I wish I were making this up because it's so frigging weird Macab, but it's true. Right. And this is also tied into stories. You hear about saints who say like I been to church in Europe where like you just like this skeleton that's in a in a cabinet. That's dress up with some finery robes and things like that. Because that's a sacred thing. And there's also stories with saints who are quote, unquote, incorruptible whose bodies don't decompose, you know, how to works or. Or what proved there is it that. But broadly, speaking, right? It's just like hocus pocus type of Catholicism that is really connected with this body horror of taking like fingernails, fingers bones. And then like transporting them around the churches around Europe or like carrying on your person because it gives you a magical powers to fight evil to ward off evil and things like that. It is so bizarre and fantastic. It's no wonder that Kyo gear MO does who wrote tapped on this tradition for the movie because it fits in really? Well. I think it goes back to what we're talking about with the saints and Saint George, right? And like being able to tap into this broader tradition and transcending yourself in order to fight evil. So that's kind of my brain dump their of others like fantastic. Gory guy falls stuff. So like beat the digging from there. Well, I mean, the movie also has the spirit of lung Johnny's in it, which at then doesn't check off spirit of lawn. Genus does not get Hughes movie, the spirit of long genus is a relic that people might be familiar from if they've watched neon Genesis Evangelina on wolfenstein spear of destiny. Yes. Yes. I think the spears spears in general are more heavily feature in hell boy to the golden army. I believe, but but so this is what I was thinking when I was watching the part with the relics of the saints because this is not the only movie from this time period that heavily involved a kind of. Oh, wow. We can use CGI to depict, you know, the the sort of occult wars of kind of late Catholic and early Protestant literature. Right. Like, this is also the era of van Helsing, which is like, I have a boomerang. That's gotta holy water on it that can fly around on Bravo, control, or whatever it is that it can do right. Like, the this is the sort of. Like, hey, man. You know, what is the coolest thing that we should really make into a high tech movie special effect the holy hand grenade of Antioch. Right. But but really what I'm thinking about here is that this whole over this sort of body of work. And I think we can now drove back down to help way specifically is invested with this notion of what we've internalized w-what who we are. Because of what we've internalized it was already talking about this hell boy is who he is. Because of the aspects of his nature that he is internalized and can't get away from and then the aspects of his nurture that he's internalizing can't get away from and he has to grow up in a sense that he has to kind of learn to live with these things. And and he's a demon. What would he's a demand in the sense that that's that's a that's a symbol for how it feels like nominally to be like an adolescent who feels like a social outcast Riley. That's kind of the gist. So we're all freaks this is like the breakfast club. Right. This is like, oh, we're all we're all kind of outcast in this high school. And now we're out of high school in we're onto Saint almost fire, but like Demi Moore left to go to rehab, right? And I and I miss her that this is like, this is definitely a sort of brat pack, kind of kind of story. And so help ROY being a demon what its horns being short off is really about him in this sort of. What is if that's the metaphor? Right. If that's the sort of the I forget, which one it is that's the vehicle, right? The tender is, you know, your own internalised, sexuality, and desires and kind of socialization around around kind of impulse an impulse control. And getting what you want and social relationships, which end these sort of urges. You don't understand that you can front adolescence, and these things are identified with demonic things. Right. This sort of your relationship with your self in yourself is involved with demons in the world. And if we were even to bring a contemporary sheen onto it, we could say that, you know, hell boy being who he is has a certain end. Of course, he's Catholic has a certain amount of historical guilt about where. About the power that he was born into. Oh, man. I'm a demon. I really don't feel good about being bored of demon. What could I possibly do to for anybody to like me? I'm the monster. Right. This is a thing you hear over and over again in stories from this time period. All I'm the monster. You know, and and and nowadays it's sort of like, you're the monster. Right. We're much lesson to me being the monster and much more into you being the monster. But in that particular cultural moment, it was like, I'm the monster. And so help way being the monster is is him sort of internalizing his sort of socialization, which you can't control, and it's a split broad symbol of this. And of this adolescent experience of alienated and kind of rage at his situation. And what the relics of the saints are is the countervailing symbol that might represent a different sort of internalization. Right. That that it is in fact possible to internalise good things in the same way. That you would turn allies being a demon. Right. So like for some reason, I think in the in the particular cultural candidate, I feel part of it is easier to think of myself as a monster than as a Saint, right? It's sort of like, oh, you know, if you think about the good things that are associated with the occult religion in contemporary society that scene as silly. But the bad things that are associated with the occult and religion in contemporary society feel very comfortable. Right. And I think that's just sort of a product of of a variety of different factors. We don't necessarily need to get into. But I feel like in hell boy, giving you know, when they give a Fishman when they give the the shape of water guy, right proto shape of water guy. The relic of the Saint to protect you excuse me. That is disrespectful. Pete. People address him by his proper name amend or sorrow. Okay. He's a hand. Begins right because he's Abe Lincoln because he's hey blinking. But like, it's the idea of like, you could also internalize the idea that you're a holy warrior. You know, and it's not it's not not necessarily any less real that you being a demon. Like, it's it's it's kind of two sides of the same coin. It's the idea that I am not sort of capable in the scope of being a human being a fully comprehending, the goodness or badness of my actions, and the sort of Catholic approach to it is to externalize this symbol and just sort of sort of relate to the mystery of it through the expression of the symbols that the culture offers to provide a context for understanding it, right? And then so it might be like demons. There's the demon in you. There's the demon in me saints. There's a Saint in you, there's the Saint in me, collectively as a culture, we might have a parade where we carry the Saint on our backs and the Saint ways to thousand pounds, and that's symbolic about what it means to try to be good. Right. And so like to me, it seems like what you're talking about like holy relics in movies like this. You're talking about taking whatever it is about being a hero and doing and being the night and a hero in the sense of saving the day. Right. Not in the sense of like Diaw throwing a stone on top of somebody's head and like his deeds echo in eternity. No. I mean, like a hero who saves the day, which you certainly don't feel like you're good enough to be because that's sort of fiction. Nobody's really that. Good. And the symbol of the relic of the Saint is to say, yeah. But there's there's this idea that a person in a moment, right? There's a there's a notion there's like there's like this urinating, or or or echo or kind of spiritual resonance, or there's something about this idea that you could save the day that you can make manifest symbol that will be meaningful to you. And reinforced to you what you're doing. And why right. And it gives you the courage to go out there and fight whatever it is that you need to fight and it protects you because the protects you from the despair that you're going to fail, and it reminds you of the possibility that you might succeed and this man. Offense has magical power of invincibility, which is a little different. But I don't know. What do you think about all that stuff? I think just put it in slightly different ways. The poets says I used to be a little boy so old it my shoes. And what I choose is my choice. What's a boy supposed to do the killer? Killer. When you my love, I send this smile over to you. That's the chorus from. This mashing pumpkins. I'm getting chills because that's brilliant. Man. This is a very smashing isn't very smashing pumpkins movie. Is today is the greatest day I've ever known, right? It's the sort of what he finally gets the hug somebody for Christ's sake. Like, it's it's like, oh, wow. I got I got a hug, that's all. I wanted. Right. And then the sort of bloom of fire that comes from the concentration of this active, physical intimacy. Yeah, man. Wow. So do you want to drill into that a little bit because there's a couple of levels going on with that quote that you just brought up with with Siamese dream? Well, I haven't you know, obviously having done the TFT podcast with Ryan for so long. I always pop these things up on on genius. And. Genius tells me that Billy Corgan 's rage and anger were inherited from his parents. Oh, really? I'm glad that these the transmission of that information to you has been automated. Yeah. I don't know. It's interesting. This is song. This is the song. That's like as this song about abortion. And then like cut that little child, which is the line that got this song kind of banned from things. That like or is it like condoning child abuse or glorifying glamorizing child abuse or something like this? But like is talking about about sort of coming to terms with your patrimony a little bit right now like as you sort of as you grow. It's mean, it's so it's so interesting, my shrink in my twenties said something interesting to me where I was like I was arguing with her about like, well, no not in reality. Not in reality. Not in reality. And she Emmanuel content me and she said, well, look as shrink I'm not such a fan of capital our reality because any reality that's out. There you experience and the experience is subject to interpretation. Right. You know? And that's that's where there's that's where there's room for. That's where there's room for the kind of growth with kind of like re contextual station, the kind of development that that your. That that that Pete that you're talking about right? That that like, whatever the the experiences, the experiences the thing that that is subjective that can be re contextualised, and that actually by sort of something this is a frequent topic of the overthinking podcast sort by changing the narrative, you can change a lot about the actual lived experience. You can change a lot about this sort of material seeming, but not actual not actually material quote, unquote reality. Reality of his situation. News, take the weird urges that you have in in adolescence, right? Like, the they're only they're only bad to the extent that you're taught to be ashamed of them. Right. Like you have to you have to learn to manage them. You can't act on they're bad because they're pitching they destructive. But yeah. But. Sure. I mean, I guess they're potentially destructive. There are also potentially fantastic. You know, and like, let's take let's take it to something. That's a lot easier. Not to moralize, right? Like, your voice cracking as your voice changes as a boy analysis. Right. The it's it's potentially embarrassing. Right. But you have to learn to sort of negotiate you have to both in the sense that you kind of just have to hold on through the bad period. And then and then kind of relearn what your voice is like as an adult. Now. Of course, it's not in an environment in a discursive environment that is really focused properly. I think now on on sexual violence and toxic masculinity, and sexism and. Gendered privileged like, I guess it's it's hard not to sort of want to jump to want to jump to how destructive sort of unchecked sexual urges can be. But like to a certain extent, I wish we could evacuate that discourse out of a kind of abstract idea of like. Of the urge. And then the kind of the interpretation of the urge or kind of an experience a physical experiences sensory experience. Right. An internal experience. And then the kind of the narrative that the narrative that that comes comes around to. You know, that comes around to kind of make it mean something to you. And like to the extent that like you're in control of your own meaning making. You know, to that extent, you become more to that extent. You become more adult, right? Like, yeah. You can't act on every sexual or you have. But the sexual urges don't make you about person. And in fact, are like something that enriches your life, and in when properly contextualized those things have a fantastic effect on your life. So when when when acted on in. A proper in a proper and sort of. I don't know. Well, socialized. Sort of way. I it strikes me that like in in a lot of religions reading the scripture isn't enough, right. There's a sermon, you know, or there's a homily or there's a Dharma talker. There's there's something right like because the though though the capital our reality. If you think of of the spiritual truths in various kinds of religious scripture as a reality. The capital reality doesn't change. It has to be experienced, you know, and it it has to be. Restated for the particular for the particular time in place, you know, and that like. That's the part. I mean, that's that's why we have a podcast Frank. Anyway, let's let's let's maybe let's maybe move on Mark Pete. And I have have I held the floor for a little while anything else occurred to you about helping. Hell, yeah. Let's talk about the symbolic or lack thereof of his hand. Right. It's it's. Off mark. I mean, it might just be that. Right. But let's it's notable because it's not often that we see asymmetrical character design physicality, right? I mean, the horns are notably symmetrical, but he's one of his hands is enormous and made of stone. And the other one is not it's just like red flesh and notably at that. At the end. We see that the hand is actually one of the keys to unlock the portal and yada, yada. Bring about the end of the world. But what else is going on there? There's got to be some more there right aside from the masturbation, well 'cause what? It's it's the whole thing. Writ large, the whole sort of stated theme of the movie writ large, which is that that Rasputin tells hell boy that his hand is the way that it is in order for it to be the key to this door. That's going to bring the ultra horror into the world and help way, of course, no in his own experience had owns his hand for his own purpose. And is that the hand that he catches the crucifix or catches the rosary with with the cross on it as well as it catch that in the other hand, I'm trying to remove the flesh in. Yeah. So so but held boy. So the whole this whole idea throughout the movie that gets repeated is is that you were destined to be one thing you were designed to be one thing you're choosing to be another thing, which one is real. And when I think about the symmetry of hell boys hands it's sort of like, well, the sort of team nature thinks that it's for this particular purpose. But the way that help boy actually uses it. What makes me think of is the scene in the subway fight the fight with the monster in the subway, which. I absolutely love which is held boys. Take on hardboiled where he's fighting. The what is it? What is it? Bailey Howell or whatever spicy handed God of kittens? Yes. The spy exactly where he's he's holding in his stone hand, he is fighting the bad guy. He's like he's using the stone hand to swing the monster around and around but in his flesh hand, he is like tenderly Croix cradling a creative kittens. And so he has these two sides to his personality. It's that. Okay. Well, you designed to me to have this what hand that I can use for this one specific purpose? And you didn't even think about the rest of me. But for me, I manifest this. As me having a dual nature of being both able to be violent and also able to being tender and affectionate and help boys fund is for kittens in this movie is a lovely piece of character development. I wouldn't it doesn't mean it's probably true in the new movie too. I haven't seen it, obviously. But I mean, I can't imagine that they would not have harbor as I was named have him. Not have a bunch of kittens? If you like the fans on the internet's would've love that. If it's not in there. I know the movie Bob, but yeah. But does that help boy is somebody? He's similar to the tweet. Bring up a lot elbow is a is a riff on a territory bring up a lot, which is that. He's a riff on the John Wayne from the searchers that we keep talking about in terms of the person who's outside society who then protects the existence of society, and has to sort of reveal a certain hypocrisy in society because of the. Sort of area outside of society can't function in the same way that the rules. I live decided he has walls. Those walls are guarded by men with guns who's going to guard him you, right? This is the sort of Jack Nicholson argument from you good men. But hopefully isn't just that he's both. He's both outside. And he also wants to be inside. He's not entirely outside the threshold. He's got one hand in his pocket. And the other one's swing in a squid monster. It's a very nineties movie for something made it two thousand four I guess it's because it's based on comic books that are from earlier. But I mean, man, that's nice. It feels of a piece with men in black as well. Which is the nineties movie. That's true. That's true. The whole idea that like the cold and aliens, and all this stuff that was kind of on the fringe, and you would see it through the idea that a composite image of a Fishman would be on the cover of news of the world at the grocery store checkout counter. Right. Like, this sort of batboy kind of thing like, oh, man. There's a fuzzy picture of a UFO on a fake newspaper. It might be real. Oh, now, we have computer generated imagery that we can composite with real film. Let's make it look real. This was sort of a moment. A high moment in kind of milking that particular visual vocabulary. I mean, it's post X files is what it is in the sense of realizing all that. But yeah, I mean, I don't know Matt what did you think of hell boy and his big stone fist? It's for jerking off. Calloused? It's it's a well used, you know, it's the musculature developed and calloused. Well, no it got that way. Because he committed the terrible Catholics in masturbation. I mean, it's also all the cinnabon, and he spilled it on the ground. Because only if you don't spit on the ground just saying, it's also a tribute to hell boy's relationship with mug rims ever loved thing. I think right because there's a lot of there's a lot of Ben Grimm the from the fantastic four in hell boy as the sort of rock guy who thinks he's a monster. And is like trying to get along with the woman, and again, make it work, and he's kind of doubt in himself. And he's he's not what he wants to be. There's definitely a lot of that guy in elbow and quite a lot of clobbering as well. It definitely I feel like a nineties movie in as a movie in the lineage of of the X files, it really gives a lie to a lot of the sanctimony around the X files because the X files really was a, you know, old white guy in a smoke filled room around like a mohawk ini conference table. You know, really, you know, conducting Robert's rules of order style meeting about secretly running the world. And that's and. And it's interesting, I friend, a, you know, an older kind of like radical friend who I saw the X files movie with in the nineties early two thousands. And it's like, you see you see that's how that's how they hide it from you. It's not. There's no smoke filled room with a lot of white guys around this the underlying operations of capital. The system is built to work this way. But by redirecting your outrage at an imaginary smoke filled room, anyway, if if there were a conspiracy of smoking guys. Stood in here by. By George blue who's. Like who even smokes even gives hell boy some? Some advice on how to light a cigar. Yeah. Right. He's completely unequal to the task of controlling the secret forces, which are supposed to be under his command. Right, right. He's it's like a like a father of an adolescent really like you can like sort of trying to coax the teenagers into doing something. But really you can't guarantee outcomes. You can't you can't guarantee specific performance right by the by the teenagers. It's it's gonna be. Sixty five and pick him on any given day. Whether they're going to follow orders or do the thing that you do the thing that you want them to do. And I I do like that it kind of deflates somewhat the shadowy cabal the of the FBI. And does it a little bit with like the with pathetic drop from like there is no paranormal division of the FBI cut to you know, subtitle paranormal division. Right. And then also just with like, no one listens to Jeffrey tambor. No one. No. And all the fish guy the hell boy guy like they just do what they want. Anyway. Right, right. The idea that the power that the cabal has is not in the sense to cover up what they are doing. But to kind of cover up what what is sort of happening at large that is outside of anyone's control, and that they derive power authority from being the gatekeeper of this truth. Devry body else is interesting. And also, if you have, you know, if you have specialists in violence who who used to your particular ends like sort of parrot like paranormal paramilitary, right apparel Pera. A paranormal paramilitary parabas the Rapa. The birther Gertie worse. You you you also need a command and control structure that guarantees that the specialists in violence are going to, you know, not stage a coup or something like that. And this completely completely without that. Right like, and that's. Yeah. That's pretty fun. I mean, it's it's sort of pretty funny to me. And it does it does it does do the conspiracy stuff, and like the the cosmological conspiracy is I mean, it's an interesting thing. And we're nearing the end of our time now, but like cosmological conspiracy movies are are an interesting genre. Because I think they kind of they reflect a. A wish for for meaning a wish for like a coherent narrative, and in a movie that's kind of about a psychological narrative of the self and and choice in autonomous and free will the. It would be a topic to go into. But but alas we should probably save it for we should save it for another time. But like that it gives lie to the to the smoky room thing is is good aspect of this film for me. I like to think that when Asian Colston brings on new agents of shield, he has a mandatory training video where they watch Jeffrey tambor in the first boy movie, and then it pauses it. It's like what should he have done in this situation? I like, hey, like, not gone on the television station to talk about L. Boy, right. Like be made sure to secure all his documents in his desk drawer and lock it. Like, see, right. Follow the command and control structure to report any excursions of paranormal assets into the open or d all of the pump. This actually is actually a plot point on on agents of shield, which is that, you know, if you have a whole bunch of superpower people the in humans, right like, they can kind of do what they want, you know, and it's it's more. It's kind of more an exercise in leadership rather than management because you have to lead through influence rather than through. Through coercion, you know. And that's. Sit lesson that that I guess Jeffrey tambor by the end learns, you know, what he really wants is is protests about using a wooden match to let your stogie, right? Because that's because that's all goes back to this idea that that thing that leads hell blue towards saving the day is interaction with his kind of hedonistic impulses in personal pleasures out. And that's why he's an anti hero rather than Eero. Cigars are attractive to bring we bring we bring it full circle. And sometimes a cigar. Is just a cigar. Okay. This has been the overthinking podcast. Thanks very much for listening. 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Scary Mommy Speaks with Andy Cohen!

Scary Mommy Speaks

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Scary Mommy Speaks with Andy Cohen!

"Ursula c. which is drastically misunderstood. She's my favorite disney character. She always has a perfect lip and two best friends scary scary. Mommy speaks hey everyone welcome to scary. Mommy speaks the show for women who are owning motherhood hood and all it's glory pain and play dates. I'm ashley and i'm kerry and if you're new to scary mommy were the number one source of info and entertainment for moms across the country. We tell tell it like it is no sugar coating and no impossibly perfect standards. This is the real deal. So how was your week harry well. I got to see my secret boyfriend. Dan billy joel in baltimore me. It's not a secret. I think i have this shared love. I know i see him baltimore. I've seen him in the last year ford sometimes in madison square garden but i went to baltimore where my step mom and my dad live and we took them or they took us. I should say to the show which was fine billy. Joel is my sarah tonen blast like i'm like my best seller just so happy he's always like. Can you find a way to have this all the time because you're so happy and good news. I did did not pee my pants so my public floor is getting better positive celebration and then i took my daughter to the beach that but i grew up on i grew up right on the beach and i i was like important for me to take her. She's not a big beach van yet but i'm i'm holding strong that most infants are not big fans of sand. Yeah i think <hes> just give you know like most things if you just force it on your whole come around. It's gotta be a beach girl anyway. Ash how was your week take my week was really good. I got to go on a girl's trip with my mom knife. <hes> we took two days to florida which we have a lot of family on both sides sides and we were just like no. This is just us. We're just hanging out together. It feels good and it's very hard for us to connect around the baby because he just wants my undivided attention at times and we can't have real serious conversation so it's it it really was really rewarding so sweet out good and pretty eh pretty well rested after pictures were so cute. You guys love each other so hard all right so we have a mazing show up ahead. I can't wait to hand out this week's crown. Some of blair's is is really an inspiration to so many <hes> also this week the viral tweet in which one mom let it all out regarding millennials without kids ruining disney. I take this one really <music>. A small round. It's copy gray has a big grant. It's a big rand can't wait to get to that and finally the m._c. a._c. Andy cohen is spilling the tea with lipton scary mommy yes andy cohen talks to us all about his new life as a single single-parent. I should you leash your kid. Just your kid because i can think of a zillion people. I'd love to hear south. You know what else i love. Talk to me. Harry candles scented candles so relaxing shade. Gonyea has beautiful gold foil rocks glass candles. My favorite is the one that says betty further rusty because it has a luxurious read koran sent you can go from burnin tobu's then wait. Did you just say boozing <hes> also also after you enjoy the candle all at burns you can then put it in the freezer and use it as a rocks glass. Oh everybody loves a twofer right kerry. I'm one of those people check out more shake. Gone the item on shop scary mommy dot com and don't forget to use the code speaks fifteen for a fifteen percent discount. It's time for crushing. It crowd understood. I'm incredibly inspired by our crushing and crown. I usually am but especially this week yeah crashing at crown goes to selma blair and her story really just just like gut punches you it's it's both sad and happy and inspiring at the same time you guys haven't been following along with this <hes>. She recently came out and said that she she has m._s. She was diagnosed back in october and she's not only fighting this chronic illness but she's also raising her son arthur while doing it and she wants wants to be an inspiration to him really beautiful bond. She recently posted a photo on instagram where she had a newly shaven head yeah and she was talking about these experimental treatments is that she's going through <hes> and she smiling through it and trying to really give people hope and inspiration to this time yeah and i think it's important for her to to face the it. It seems like it's important for her to really face this challenge head on and not hide it and be very honest and open because i can't really think of public face to 'em no. I can't either no. That's why selma blair is are scary mommy amy and are crushing it crown of the week. Yes <hes> emma's rough right. You know i i've only i've only known two people with m._s. And <hes> it was just very hard to say it was one of them was my same age. It's just really difficult. Watch to watch it. Go down yeah. I think i think the fact that she's she's willing to be you know we dog social media so much right in how how harmful it can be and this is an instance where somebody is taking the of truly personal struggle and letting us into it to say like this is what's happening and like you can still have your life and we can still we can still face assists and i think it's really inspiration. It is one way that social media is positive. Social media is helpful in that and saying no this is what's going on with me and i can help and also in establishing a community amongst other people other families that have this in their lives. You know gives it a public face and end and a related ability. I guess yeah she said so. This is a quote from her. My disease isn't a tragedy but i tell myself you're going to live in a way that would be an example for yourself and your son. One of things i love about the story is seeing all the posts of her friends rallying sarah michelle gellar reese witherspoon thank you and i love it because amy king jamie you are like people magazine right in front of adults <hes> but these are people that she's worked with when they were versus babies. They were babies in the industry and it just makes me feel like we gooey inside that maybe this industry is in such a cutthroat place and that i love seeing that these people are really friends from when they came up in the early years here. Are some of your comments. Misty says thank you for creating conversations and awareness earnest about the shitty disease selma praying that this news treatment does what it needs to do for you. Love known just as as someone who lives with lupus and helps take care of my mom with m._s. This this woman is my superhero. Let's get one thing straight. You don't beat m._s._u. Don't win you learn to live with dignity and grace something she does marvelously it is it's amazing to have a woman like sama represent us. Thank you thank you well well said known jaw and for all the moms out there raising your kids while working your way through illness we salute do you so we're moving on to our next story. <hes> it went super viral because everyone one has an opinion on it. It's called yes i- leash my kids and it's none of your business. That's right okay so it's definitely everyone's business now now because it's written article people had tons of comments <hes> and she talks about how there's like quite a big gap between the stroller right and the phase where they're like walking well on their own <hes> and so that's why she's using the leash well what gets me is how mean people get to her her on the street like they. They just feel like this is. The weirdest thing about motherhood right is you're just going about your business. Do you and your best job raising your kid and some jerk jerk on the street has to give input on like what you're doing so people are telling her like you know. That's not a dog right. I just i can't imagine how people have this soldat. Whatever i mean we the comments here all the time so we definitely know it exists. I know i mean i. I don't i'm not into it. I'm not into it. I am one of i would never say anything but i am one of those people when i see like a mom with a leash on there i'm like oh boy oh boy but on the other hand like my sister's kid. It is a rumor yeah. My boys like a lot of my friends that have boys specifically and i don't wanna say just a boy thing because i kind of have a rambunctious girl so i think i'm in for almost like a boy girl thing but my lot of my friends that have boys. They just like dr there. The you know you take your i put check your phone real quick and they're like down the block so i mean i. I'm not gonna say never say never because i understand how scary that. I'm afraid of losing lee in public. Let alone my child l. Yeah absolutely i got that well. I want to hear all about what all the scary mommy's had to say. Rachel says my little monster loves her. Leashes is because she hates holding hands. She gets a bit of freedom and mom and dad get peace of mind everyone win. Jessica says wire strollers for toddlers okay but a leash east isn't the leash gives them freedom to move and the ability to stay safe at the same time who wants to hold their hand above their head for more than a minute or tail. I've dated a lot of tallboy and then i know that feeling feeling terrible yeah. I mean that's not hard. I'm very sorry. Diana says prima me leashes gimme. A break pre mommy ipads in restaurants. Give me break talk to your kids post mommy. Oh i fucking get it tether them to something and plug them in mommy needs a moment. I have never felt more understood than i did by that user comment i mean it is sort of a good idea and i know a lot of moms with kids that are just roamers and are fast and you just like taizhou and they're just like gone. Yes i get that but i don't know i'm also like my mom raised me. I'd like fear fear stranger danger stranger danger. I just mean the fear of like if i didn't hold her hand or didn't stay right next to her like the wrath of god kinda anything like she could just give me a look there and i would just be like settled so interesting you say that because <hes> my grandmother mayola used to do that that to me and go out of the look the look or the leash and <hes> the fear god giving me the fear of things <hes> and because i didn't like how i was being forced to hold her hand refused my mom always would say like oh hold my hand take care of mommy that that made me want to hold her hand right so sweet yeah very sweet sweet. I do that vashem now. <hes> almost deal that yeah. That's a good one. That's a good tip. It works <hes> but i found out as a teenager that because i wouldn't and my grandmother's hands she put me on a leash as a child and i have this thing. This is like a primitive leash. It's like a legit leash. <hes> so i just harness style or choker no it was harnessed but she would take me out on this thing and when i found out as a teenager that she did this i was so horrified i was so upset. I couldn't believe that this was done to me and now as a parent. I bought sebastian one of those little skip. Hop backpackers feel better to me yeah because it's a harness. Essentially it like it's a backpack. That's snap snap russell following yeah yeah snaps on the chest and the leash is removable but for a while once he started walking which was actually a year ago today fun in fact <hes> i wanted wanted him to get used to walking everywhere especially living in this area so he was on a leash all the time and i see nothing wrong with it. I think it's i think it's a great way for a kid to have their freedom and the parent is still assured that their kids are gonna run into the street and get hit by a car. You know i mean i guess a really for how i feel it boils. I guess it really depends on the kid. There are some kids that are are just gonna stay by your side. Not a big deal going to be an issue yes and then there's some kids that are just gonna like dart for the record. I just wanna say. I don't use the leash any more now that he's like fully walking but i still stand by. There's nothing wrong with well then. Throw me that skip hop backpack in case luna's a little give it to you. It's a dinosaur sore. Oh i loved dinosaurs here you okay. You're doing the like i have. An inch can't scratch wiggle. My long arms prevent me from having that issue always union long arms arms yeah. I just can't get this broad feel right. I keep trying to adjust it. It's like squeezing me. We'll let me pass you the pepper my dear. I can't have peppers <music>. I'm allergic. You know that no i mean pepper as it puts a little pep in your step because you're bubis feel-good hamper. Please explain okay so these amazing women entrepreneurs leo grad jacqueline fu have created a bra company called tapper. It's based on the belief that every woman is a real woman regardless of shape so is or color of her breasts. That's on so spicy but in a way that i can have thank you pepper and my friends right. Can i recommend this for anyone of all sizes as a shapes. Yes pepper is closing the gap with empowering options especially for small chested women that help redefine body image check them out at shop dot scary mommy dot com. Tom don't forget to put in codes speaks fifteen for fifteen percent off so guys. Today's guest is one that that we are extremely excited about excited ashley me <hes> we are huge fans. He is a t._v. Show host and producer <hes>. He's a writer and a new dad the n._c._a._a. We're here spilling. The tea with andy cohen high high why are view spilling the tea with lipton today well. It's a perfect pairing basically me and lipton. I've been spilling the t. forever adam spilling the tea with them all summer along about love and relationships and friendships and if you go to lipton's facebook and twitter you can you can give them topics that you want me to spill the t. about oh. You're in new dad. Tell us about my daddy <hes> well very doesn't he likes a little like that. It's more like owning it. You know l. like owning everything that comes with the bad stuff so are you were scared. Daddy yes good great. How is being a dad going. It's going doing great. It's going great so far. I mean you'd have to ask my son. You're not like wait is over. He's sleeping great grains <hes> he's really big big. He's about he's six months old and he's. I think he's the size of like a nine month old. Wow so he's over achieving so do you think do you have any baby gargling going on to you know what that is basically like beer goggles so <hes> you know you. You think your kid is just like the cutest thing in the hawaiian world when you look back at pictures because it happened right. I know my kid is a huge effect. I was looking at him yesterday and i was thinking you know what objectively actively. I am so glad i'm at this point where i can look at my son by the way he was super cute the moment he was born and so and i was so relieved i it was like actually there was a moment when he was first born where you know their lips alone there. So what am i looking. We kinda calmed down. It was like oh thank god because because it's like a shrinking dank little while one london where he looks like benjamin button. Actually it's very strange anything right now because you can say something like in a couple of days i was happy i was thanking god yesterday. I was looking at him. I was like oh. I got a really cute one. That's always a good thing so you're a single parent. My mom actually a single parent to do. You think that it's it's kind of nice not not to have to ask anyone else's opinion about your old by a lot of friends actually as tough as it is being a single parent you you are lucky because you don't have to negotiate about everything in a lot of relationships that becomes like a thing i know and i have a great baby cleaners and it's actually a great relationship because it's very respectful like i want her advice and she's this is her seventy any third baby that she's i consider her an absolute expert and i need an expert because i'm not so but on the other hand. There's not much negotiation where i know if i was with someone it would be another situation. You kinda feel like you're in that like it kind of this weird exclusive club where all of a sudden have like this whole other conversations. I've had a lot of you know. I mean look. A lot of my friends are moms and this is just something that i've never really cared about talking to them about now here. We are like oh. Let's talk about we follow you on instagram. We've been watching this journey. How is walk a handling great. They seem to be co-existing and now what's happened. Just in the last few days as as ben has become obsessed with the dog and he's really paying attention to these walking in the room and i could be in there he will look look around and he's following him around and it's great. I'm not really a molding his hands back because they don't want him to his ear. Do anything rash but it's great. I'm trying to be super mellow. I led the dog lick benz phase and i just don't want to set up a situation where it's like. Oh my god oh my god and be he crazy. Everybody can feel that energy. It's never like ed. You're building the antibodies which is always a good absolutely okay so so far what has been the hardest latest thing about being apparent for me. It's like my identity now that i'm apparently so far the kid's been great but what's your hardest thing. It's guilt about anytime. I am not spending with him and i'm a single working dad eight or nine jobs yeah and so it's that only eight or nine yeah really slacking. I recognize the quality time that we do have and i recognize when we're having it and i make the most of it and i put my phone down on and i'm with him and so do the best we can get worse and worse as he's like daddy where you going daddy what's happening happening. What's your favorite babycare. You think he's teething so the clove oil is really good. <hes> we got some really cool new crib. Mm sheets from a company called lovey that it's a scene of a beach. It looks like he's laying on a beach awesome. Super cute. I'm obsessed with it is a really bad mood. The other day i went in his room and the crib sheet was on his bed and i was like yeah that's stuff is the cutest cute route except there's too much of it and i'm like what is this now this now. We're trying to be minimum. Just be like we don't need them. Yes yeah okay so we know from your send an all in all the media that you're always out and about new york city. We recently didn't article about how there's not too many changing rooms in men's restrooms issue for you. It has an in you know why i'm out and about with him more out at the beach i br i i love putting him in the car. Take him over to friends houses. I have not what he's only been to two restaurants at this point because i think it's fun for him and it's not fun for me so i'm like i would rather keep him on his schedule and i'll go. He naps at around one o'clock so i'll hop out for lunch and then dinner to dinner after he's asleep meantime. Just don't think there's much value at this moment in schlepping in around to a lot of places. I take him out on walks and stuff for the friends houses. I wanted to thank you so much <hes> as a fan girl i this is like tops everything for me so <hes>. I can't wait to see how your son grows luna. My daughter is nine months old. So if for some reason you need arranged marriage situation. She's got an older son. I've got an older daughter either wag very good whichever way he goes. I can't wait to find on the andy cohen <music>. I'm a man we had such a blast with that and just because i know how much you dislike british television. I'm going to say this with my best. British accent billing with lipton andy cohen was just bonkers is brilliant really cheerio. That was a rough start like i need to working my accent work okay. This is a tweet <hes> that went viral so i'm thinking many of you have strong feelings about it. A twitter a user with the handle at gen cat writes found screen shotted and then shared a facebook post from a woman who just let it all out about disney. Being overrun by millennials without kids and in boy was this woman in a whole new world of rage. Oh man just let it go. Oh double yeah so her tweet was definitely expressing that park attendees without children should not be a part of her world. She said in all caps it pisses me off to no end and when i see childless couples without kids at disneyworld d._w._i. Disneyworld is a family amusement park yet. These immature millennials throw their money away on useless crap. People without children needs to be banned. She went on to complain about a woman short shorts clogging up the line to you a ride. Oh my goodness i. I'm gonna let you go. All i have to say is what got up your ass lady seriously sleigh. Why are you gonna hate on people. My family is a huge disney. Family members of my family have worked currently work. I can't tell you 'cause you're are not allowed to tell the people what disneyworld and so it's like a huge thing we do as a family. I don't know if i would go without a kid. I've always gone with younger family members or or you know something but i mean people love disneyworld. There's lots of people without children. Why can't why you gotta hate on people that don't have children. I mean this sounds like this. Mom is in need of a margarita a log phlegm ride and like some charles. She needs a frigging character. Breakfast is what she needs. <hes> let me tell you something the thing as a millennial and old millennial a millennial nonetheless. I have been to disney pre-child so many times so many times. That cod is so good for thou my god. My family doesn't particularly love disneyworld but i do it is it is legitimately the one place place in this planet of ours. I wake up in a good mood like i wake up the birds chirping and they're getting me dress and i'm like it's time to go his place on earth. I love disney and i much prefer going without my child because i did bring sasho when he was six months old and he was like a whole thing it. It took away my magical experience. I had to focus on his magical experience. My parents <hes> i went through a break up in college with my like sears college boyfriend boyfriend and my mom was like do you wanna go to disneyworld. Is that gonna make you feel better. I was like yes yes. Please take me you know what it did. <hes> i also think we we may have invented drinking around the world is going to say i've done that. God that's the best so good you know what i think that the woman who posted this needs to go to disney without her kids kids and chill out and try it out and i think she's really come around frazzled because her kids are driving her crazy like just let people live man. Let them live hot and really. She is missing out. I just wanna tell you all of you out there. If you have not been to disney without your children you are severely missing out. I mean it's not like people. These millennials are creeping up on our kids being weird. It's not like don't come into <hes>. Don't come into play ground unless you have a child like to prevent creagh. Creagh people are having their honeymoon. They're they're just having a good time. Happy and there's care actors from your childhood. There's alcohol okay. We're going to disneyworld together because you are really your loved. I'm not joking. I love i wouldn't get married. They're like i didn't want to do like that. I don't all of it to that extent but i love disney and also if you have not been off on the door ride or gone to pandora and i've been on the avatar ride i it is the greatest ride i have ever been on in my entire life. I'm not joking is better than any roller coaster. You're like on this thing and you feel it breathing between your legs guys. Let's hear what you say because evidently we know exactly what ashley has to. I say oh god angeles says okay. This is off the chain for sure but having experienced disneyworld with toddlers i can attest that it can drive a person to the brink of insanity and yet i return every year exactly. She's just stressed with our kids. Yeah also disney has an app where you can wait online via the app so try that anyway i really should be they should pay me be our guest ashley too and if you could put me in a bell costume life okay. She says i've been to disneyland three times in my life at each three h ten and h twenty one you wanna know what time i actually remember. My experience enjoyed it fully. When i was twenty one yes shane the two times i went as a kid. I barely remember and most of those are fo- memories. I've created from photos. I've i've seen from the trip. Disney parks much better as an adult thank you i feel i feel understood. Jessica says this is how she feels at the happiest place on earth i i hope i never run into her at the d._m. That's a really good yeah. I've trusted i._q. Oh do you yeah so does matt. I think that's like most men tacky yeah all right. This is a case of someone who's just feeling a little overwhelmed at the park. Also protect. I one time went to disneyworld with thirteen of my family members and i highly recommend that because then you can pass your kids off to take a break with the other one. That's a great idea. We've done it. It was the most fun vacation to to this day. We're all adults and we're all still talking about that time. All thirteen of us went to disney world. We we just have tons of hysterical story. I really recommend it. It's so true sure i mean you can't go full ursula switch on everyone just because you're having a bad parenting ursula c. which is drastically misunderstood. She's my favorite disney character. She always has a perfect lip and two best friends. Did you hear they're up casting melissa mccarthy or liz. Oh yes. I think both of those are great. Them would be a fabulous confession time sh- passions are i carry yes. It's time for confessions and mine is a little heavy all right. Please please go first. Oh god okay so you know we have this podcast and it's been amazing and rewarding wording and we've been working towards this in our lives our whole our whole time our whole adult lives and when i had sebastian when i got pregnant with sebastian i decided i was going to be a stay at home mom because i knew i only wanted to have one kid. I really wanted to be there for everything <hes> and and it was important for me and that's a no judgment towards anybody else and things started to pick up in my career and now i'm not home as often and i'm really torn up with the guilt of not being around my son all the time and on one hand you know when i look at at it realistically. I know it's good for him. I know it's good for both of us to have our own lives to an extent and he's not going to be emotionally reliant on me but it's it's really been difficult. You know and it's like a primer for you. Because throughout as your kid grows it's gonna be a back and forth between who who he's relating more to but that first one is hard especially when you're already struggling with trying trying to find the balance between having a career that pop in again so to speak yeah and trying to take care for the first time i mean they must have been on the same wavelength because as i taught a class this morning before i came here and as i'm leaving luna reaches her arm out on the crib because more ooh choices terrible. It's like heartbreaking my confession. This week is not as serious good. You need a break from saturday allows so i go up to a gym in my building. Go upstairs to like try to you know get this post-partum body back in the fighting shape and oftentimes. I find myself starting out on a treadmill or bicycle okay. I'm gonna do the cardio yeah and then. I just watch a show on my phone and don't do any any workout so you just sit there and watch it because they just want a little peace and quiet and no one's ever at the gym. I guess everyone's just fit on their own not using our gym. We also live across the street from a public tracks. I think people sometimes use that are jim but sometimes i have every good intention. I'm like i'm just going to say here. Just my this shows just for the logistics. Where are you sitting and watching it. Liquor you sitting on a bike not peddling watching it on your phone. Yes yes or like one of those big. Bouncy balls us one to sit ups three setups. Oh sit ups are so stupid. This is really comfortable. I'm just going to sit here and want to show you. What are you watching. Oh these days. It's pos- ooh. I love these. Two confessions are kind of tied together in that like be doing this being like somewhat part time. I'm working moms which is new for us. 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Theres No Place Like Home with Jackie Schimmel!

Taste Of Taylor

48:25 min | 2 years ago

Theres No Place Like Home with Jackie Schimmel!

"The following podcast is a deer media production. Hey girl hey welcome back to another episode of my weekly podcast taste of Taylor but this isn't really a welcome back. It's kind of like a welcome to the new and improved taste of Taylor podcast so of course as you know it started off as really an advertisement to subscribe to my radio then we made it like an interview thing and it was about taste makers influencers celebrities in Bravo liberties. Yes they get their own category but now that I'm with G._M.. Media Ooh so taste of Taylor so you get a little tasted me right little Niblett of my life but then we're also going to get a little snack from all these amazing people I talked to interview. I want a piece of their soul. Is what I'm going for like a lunch -able. I WanNa launchable of their soul and so we're going to go deep. We're GONNA talk about their their fears. Their dreams God no honestly. We're just GONNA talk about like how rich they are. Aren't actually that's like my main. Focus is money. That's the new and improved taste Taylor and my virgin voyage first guest is none other than the amazing Jackie Schimmel host of the Bitch Bible. Hey girl hey hey girl hey. I'll feel so good at it takes so long as behavioral. Hey I know Jackie. Hello Queen Hi Darling and I say queen because respectfully so you are the queen of your media you and Lauren so you in Lawrence yes I do oh my God. That's so nice. I think maybe I mean I think Lauren can is the Queen you are like an O._G.. Foe Show I was there. I yeah there I sign. You're there there virgin podcast fuck yeah I was was the virgin when you girl that's right. My hyman was still intact man. I wish my was to okay okay. Cheers cheers you this amazing company you have been in the podcast for how many years Oh my God like four okay and I was just like just say it's been actually over force when people are like Oh my God well. We'll we'll talk about that. I wanted talk shit about people oh shit. Let's go right in all these fucking podcast groups too much estrogen. Everyone likes to people against each other that aren't even fucking friends and you know what fuck the fuck off. I have no time for it. I think it's embarrassing. It's ridiculous. This is not real life. Do you WanNa give an example specific specific like I guess like somebody said that I that I was stealing joke first of all that would require me to listen to anybody else's podcasts other than my own. I know you don't do that which I don't fucking him either either and that's not popular to say but I don't secondly it's our job. Do you WanNa go watch somebody else. Do the job that you do not know and I don't even find myself that fucking interesting so I'm not going to listen to secondly. I've been doing this for years thirdly to steal a joke would mean I do jokes which I don't do. Fourthly go fuck yourself. Strap me up Jackie. How do you really feel that's it? That's it literally go. Fuck Yourself. I could care less so you've been doing this for four years. That's actual quote vote and when could retire any day so don't fuck contest so when I was like news the podcast seen not new audio as I was kind of getting my footing the podcast world of course ahead saucy on and there's also like you have to have Jackie Shimon. She's amazing and I have a San. I do not listen to Bitch Bible but I'm a fan. You know what I'm saying to by the way not offended at all like that's why I love you like I could care air fucking Len Dawson even when I'm on no and I love her a good friend I mean honestly I think it just comes onto this when you were doing something for a living you are already in gross knit so many hours out of your week you don't WanNa add any more to it like in high support other podcasters shutting. I love you guys. I just don't listen same yeah. I totally agree with you. It Ain't personal I had you on my podcast and it was like one of the most uncomfortable scenarios I've ever been in not because of you at the time so oh it was not my manager but we were with a management company and for whatever reason you walked in on the most awkward meeting I've ever experienced a mind. I mean I literally the first time I met you sat in on a management meeting with you. In this guy and I was listening the entire time it was so okay so from your perspective like what was that like and what we didn't really talk about it because at the time I was still with the management compensate right couldn't like shit all over them a totally. I'm like this is unprofessional embarrassing making can you for the first time and he was talking down to me. This is what okay you know. When you meet people in life that are just mediocre at best yeah then they are given you know kind of a golden platform to spread their words of wisdom their misguided words of wisdom misguided? I think they're Kinda. West said it best. I don't take advice from people less successful than me and listening into this meeting I mean he wasn't even giving you tidbits of guidance. It was all self indulgent like stories stories of win and how and the music industry. I'm like dude. Sit The fucked up my whole with clenched. I wanted to die. What did you think they'll do? You think I was the biggest fucking loser in the world's I to me at online when I was listening to your meeting very full attention by the way I was looking down. Rarely was I mean I'm merely were there. I was fucking. I knew you were listening to everywhere billing me more and more analyzing like computing absorbing the whole thing. It's your it's like you breathe right. Yes involuntary reactions judgment is one of your involuntary reactions from God. One hundred percents cannot help but listen to people's conversations. It's my favorite thing in the world I will sit if there's a public break-up. I will fuck an order eighty-five entrees. I WanNa know what the fuck happened and then a completely detach it's a gift I did because we are both good friends with Stasi automatically went in there loving you know by proxy yes and then when I was listening to this meeting I'm like and I was Kowtowing Hotel because he was a new person that I was being introduced to my like in my sphere total so I was like a sheep buying this rain analogous she heating this up with I'm like I need to hang out with her like three more times and then we'll we'll really get in so I was trying to tell you store with my eyes right right right but do you like anti studios and they're recording. I don't know what kind of recording device they have their so I want to be like what a fucking douchebag fuck boy. I think I said that by the way I was like wow wow that was really metaphors and then you said I don't give a faulk of you know. My husband's like an are right and I was like dicey. That right isn't A._N._R.. No He's a music producer and he's a songwriter so I'm like if this guy was anybody in fucking a._N._R.. Like I if he was legit you husband would know who he was and so yeah you like the appropriate amount of sheetrocking you had to it was so uncomfortable I have to. It's like I just it's something I have to do to breathe to function to shit too. You know we add thank God to the credit view of still a great podcast and then afterwards we were having lunch with saucy in my girlfriend yes so that was all good and we basically played the game of like who's Dausi's better friend yeah. It was a tie. It was a tie. It was a time times tie and then on the way to lunch. I proceeded to grill you about your media. Do you remember this. Oh Yeah Yeah Yeah and I was like Tommy all about it. Hurts great things about it and basically her great things. I guess through not listening listening to your podcast. You know what I'm saying. I totally and you raved about them. You said it's the best coming I've ever been with. I mean I'll let you tell that story. I did anybody who asks me. I always say the truth because I was so fucked by my previous production company. Never get into it. You know what I absolutely can I will. I won't a new names but you should. Everyone should just know that I didn't receive an expense report or like what I guess. It's called an expense report in three years and I was doing ads and I never saw a dime of ad revenue lying because I had recuperable fees is Lexa recuperable thing while it's when they wanna put you on television when you don't really want to be on television and then they write these sizzles for you and then they make you star in them or host them and then they charge you for the camera yeah work yeah in the Production Yeah Uh oh wow I believe that other than that. I mean keeping the lights on the snacks. I'm not sure what other we'll see that yes probably the snacks listen I. I like to snack. I'm a snacker. We're lunch and you smell Pacaci Brad across across the street so yes this bitch snacker. It's so by the way that God. I don't even put it on instagram anymore because it's actually not funny because I don't want to be like Oh my God look. I'm eating at four PM at Carl's junior because I understand it's insensitive. I don't struggle with my way S. I also have to work out what every day which is fucking annoying till thank you for sharing that though if you weren't working out I'm fucking strangling the window. I have to work out every single day so you can eat the Pacaci Brett across the street. I have wafting over to you know self control. I like we'll do a four P._M.. Like pre dinner dinner. Oh you are my people's. It's it's like disgusting disgusting but you work you fucking earn it. I also don't like Digest. My food regularly like I'm going on. No I haven't shouldn't three days. I'll God girl get on it and had a breakfast Burrito this morning. I'm fucking dying. Ma You gotta get shit out of your body. I don't know what to do. How some way I'm going septic so on you here on Weei over there? I was asked him out to your media so you were saying you weren't happy with the first company now man Michael Michael and Lauren approached you to come over here and and you said you said I'm so happy there so fucking amazing said would happen which I was like. Okay like jerk. Tell me that because they say a lot of really great things and I'm like if they can be good on even fifty percent of this. I am fucking in no they will. It's crazy. I'm like what fuck is going on here. I'm like I'm so jaded that I didn't believe that when someone tells you oh you can make this amount of money and you can do this and this was like I was on cry but everything that they have told me has happened. I'm GONNA start crying. Don't the only thing that makes me. Cry Is money fame. Oh my God the Money Food Nancy Myers films get mobile. Forget it yeah when I I went to the Hamptons Hamptons trade disappointed when we were not loving you just said tread king on the beach like with Diane Keaton. I was like wait a second. This is where we're staying. I burst into tears. I was like Johnny back to the train position. I gotta go back to my three hundred square for department. Burn this this off White Turtleneck my first. His house was like being in one thousand nine hundred coq ten literal red lights everywhere who has red light bulbs. I mean I don't know but it sounds dealers fucking nightmare anyway. I Love Nancy Myers my God what a dream right favorite movie I mean of Danny Meyer's I think probably I really fucking love the holiday. Oh God Jackie. We're not going to be friends. I mean father of the bride is the obvious choice it's classic but I think the holiday over then I love something's gotTa give that's my winner. ooh God all day every day. I mean the holiday that little deeply annoying. Why does she have somehow she always manages a dance number in every fucking movie she's in Oh my God? You're so right right yeah Mr Bright side you got it in Surrey Yup fuck yet even in fucking of New York yeah that one from that didn't they miss that one in Lucy Liu Charlie's angels the yeah of course she's so unnecessary highly unnecessary you'd think she asked for it's like it's like a part of her writer. She's like I will accept this role but got it right me in a dance number I mean she did it in her shoes. She didn't do it in her shoes but. That she the theory and the one with Selma Blair and sweetest thing Oh my God rate movie I mean here for that movie like fucking amazing except the glory whole was unnecessary. Oh I mean I know Dick in the I. Have you ever taken a Dick in the I never that will no never again. That's why I'm a lesbian I was going to say it was an accident but I'm forever scarred from addicting I'll make a gay and then you went just straighten to the loving arms of less boasts vagina. Nothing can poke you in the face down there. No well never now China's are so gross to me yeah as our penises penises are really it's disgusting. This is what I always try to explain people. They're like bless C._N._N.. Do you go like and they. They don't even finish these look at me. Do you put your mouth near a Dick. I mean it's all gross because they rid of toxic waste in your body. Yes you know but like at least like a Dick is external aw yes. It was less wet okay but I feel and I'm sorry for this egregious horrible just like stereotype of men but like you're not the cleanliest I mean men all have skidmarks women. Don't we have our asses. That's true. I'm somehow men miss the memo. My husband has he likes a wet wipe and he brings them to the bathroom with him and evolved Imon Howard Stern and that's it but I still think it's like really gross. I can't you just hide it in a cabinet like why do you have to take it with you from bathroom two bathroom because I don't let him shit in our master bathroom because because it's fucking gross to go to one of the other bathrooms you get to shit in the master bound to but because I go once a month go on someone and I actually prefer for public restrooms what is wrong if you like hey but there is no anonymity of the other is all and people can hear you know Karen from finance. It's GonNa see your shoes and know that you're the fucking shitter will buy respect for us when you take the fucking handicaps doll like a Goddamn lady first of all I always take the handicapped so I don't care if there is a woman with one leg breathing. I'm the big stall woman. I haven't shot in four weeks okay. Who is the real cripple here so I'm going to take the big stuff? Thank you so much have a lovely blessed and then you just wait for a full cycle of humans to leave yes those. How long are you averaging staying in the public bathrooms and take your shit like it depends how quickly other people are moving like? It's called the Schimmel standoff like I will wait like you know and there's people in a public restrooms lead both need to yeah. They're just waiting for the other person to flush. They can try me bitch. I will be there till for fucking eight hours. I got nowhere to be first of all. We've found my other favorite things to talk about three Thanksgiving me cry fame money in poop clock. That's it so when you are public pooping MHM. The fear of the noise is really what gets me right. Are you silent shitter. Yes it's soft. Oh Wow you're a proper. I think I mean it's been so long. Don't really remember but I think I'm yeah. I'm fucking volcano so I have to flush as I go see. That's why you can't get water. I mean I'm using up like a reservoir. If I go and opponent just coughed during sorry would cause calls Moore four eighty eight eruptions yes and total control over sound. I accidentally facetime X. CO worker while I was on the toilet. I don't understand how that happened. Jokes like that is in possible to accidentally but keep in mind. This was like four and a half years ago technology was yeah right. Technology was weird and I was trying to like fix my eyebrows. I'm going through my bag and have my phone like my phone didn't lock then. I didn't have like a lock screen. Okay okay so it's tracking buying. No I mean this fucking happen there. You know I believe have I wondering if it was a logistic. Oh Yeah I'm like High Anwar. Watch me sheds so I'm going through my the purse yes trying to find my shit and all of a sudden here like whatever the fucking based time sound is and I'm going through my bagging my who the what the fuck and I never had faced timed at this point based on was not a thing for me I just actually it was more than four and a half years ago like I had just gotten a fucking iphone blackberry girl. Oh God this is like I didn't even know what the fuck was going very confusing. Swipe pick up my phone and there I am face to face on the toilet with a guy that I worked with at Chelsea see lately fucking twenty or looking at me in the eyes and I had no. I didn't even know what to do so I I. I like skid my phone through it is from you. I've literally just put my hand down and then scary scary. Put it down so you can see that you're on the toilet well. I thought that I had pressed the end by George Costanza. Do take all your clothes off through my clothes were off because I was in address like this yes so I- unbuttoned the top hop and then I unzipped it and then I just shimmied it down so he's just in Abroa- on the toilet and I made eye contact while I was trying to defecate in the confines of a century city public restroom so anyway as you're saying dear media makes big promises and they deliver the that's right and look at us now and look at us now job about shitting naked on the toilet yearly highbrow content here yes only delivered you guys know but for real so we were on our way to have lunch with the girls and and I was like telling me about drew media I'm obsessed I need in with this company and you were like they're amazing. They're wonderful Lorne michaels super like they're super approachable. Just reach out whatever of course my pussy never did cut to me. I hired like a booker for my podcasts casts. 'cause I was trying to get I had like Jerry O'CONNELL on me like you know the names Jackie the names and I 'cause I mean my Rolodex is only so big point you gotta get I bring the big guns for sure and so she was she was like pulling on and and we were like on our last about to be like hey we can probably like do this on her own. It's really fucking expensive booker and I see up on the List Lauren O. Music and so I was like were evert's Rustic Eve arts arts. I can never seen your last name. Evert's Yeah Evert's and I was like Oh my God. It's getting confidential. We've gotta get her on so I had her on and like I did something that I never do which is like I prepped for the podcast which is unheard of. I know you know this. I mean I I think I never fucking do that. Never Dies Sawyer pleats literally. We're not going to get to one thing or down so fucking matter good. Can I use yours for mine. Sure it's all questions for you so basically basically she comes in and I'm like I'm kind of nervous. I'm like I just gotTa Make Her love me. Okay maker love me and we're GONNA have a great time then. She's GonNa be like O._M._G.. You're so great come to your media right. That's my plan and like I am like we're talking the months out like I'm a I'm a Stalker Stalker. At this point right comes in we hit it off ABS and then afterwards I was trying to be coin like soon McDermott. I'm like we're doing independent thing and she said girl I fucking DMC two years ago about this and I was wives and she was like lesson learned. Check your DMC. Should I don't want to keep pushing it because like if you want and you wanted if you don't you that's how I met her. Oh my God so she slid into my fucking twitter dams and I was like she's a slider. She's a slider and it was like toys this bitch and then she and then she followed up and I was like <hes> okay unbelievable. Isn't that crazy believe for two years. I've been tracking this bitch down bugging you for intro and she was just fucking money together in and she's just there my d._M.'s just stuck in weight reading. She said Yeah when he got fired from serious. I was like fuck. Yes is the best thing in the world can get into podcasting now like Hello Oh my God right yeah so two years a thousand dollars and so many emotional downturns later here I am here. She fucking is everybody. I'm so fucking excited and I really feel like you've laid insane foundation here so thank you. Oh my God no thank you. That's so nice. You really have thanks. How long have you been with your immediate for a little over a year and fucking great? You just like explain why they're so great money yes. I was hoping you'd say. Do you think I have some deep burning passion to talk every fucking week week. I don't it's called money. Don't you feel like they actually give a shit and they like Oh see you one hundred percent but more importantly than that is money manet honey. That's the language I'm talking purses shoes. I've got a game for you. It's called are are you rich bitch and I'm going to play with you okay. I know you're rich. No I'm not this is what rich people always say. Rich people say I'm poor. Poor people always say oh really so. That's how you can tell I I have. I have some strategic questions planned out. A guy was rich person. Did you know this very rich per. No I know that it should know bag is from my former. Life is a straight person right now. I've heard about it or lesbian. I I watched too many housewives. I got way too drunk on female empowerment. I do this on my own and I clearly was incorrect so I'm a poor lesbian to oddly familiar. I'm like I don't need this man. Japan my mortgage right the semi. Oh with another woman the plan was when I got divorced. I was totally GonNa get another assessment right. I was so the plan Oh yeah and then love struck. God Evans speaking of Love <hes> really posted a picture instagram <hes> and it was of you at your wedding holding a Martini yes. Can we talk about that. Please shore. I fell in love with you ten times over when I saw who drinks a fucking Martini at their wedding you I love you. That was my we had signature. Cocktails and line was a dirty Bitch Martini. I love you so they passed him out by the tray like when everyone went to cocktail hour it was just martinis everywhere all with hand stuffed blue cheese motherfucking olives and now you're my soulmate. Are you fucking fucking kidding me no and I am I specified with the hotel and like they have to be hand stuffed. When I'm joking I haven't email? Can you send it to me. Oh my God. How much does your wedding costs? I don't fucking pay for it. It's my father. Does he's still talk to you. Yes I think so. We'll have to check in if you could do it all over again. Did you've been married for a minute how long it's been like a little over two years longer. I feel like you've been together a really long. I I think so. We're GONNA make it. I agree I agree. I never say never well you know as a former divorce person I always airing on the side of oxen. Oh me too by the way I tell my husband all the time and like I don't believe in unconditional love see better fucking stay in your lane. I don't think you should work for the second just like believe in unconditional love what no that's and everything falls apart and everybody starts to gain weight and not brush their teeth at night and all the things that I've done that when my curve her relationship we're lesbians. There's not a ton of people to pick from so I feel pretty secure. The pool is small exactly exactly totally fine. No I'm constant. I'm GonNa concentrated panic about losing her constant. That's love that makes me feel like a man yeah yeah. That's great. Do you feel like constantly panic. No not going anywhere I didn't when I was married to minute light Sir but he feels that way about me yeah and I still that for for years. How do you do it so I can redo? Back on my girlfriend right from the beginning I always wanted to keep him on his toes so it was like Jesse you know like I have plenty of options. I'm hot. I'm young. I've got tits for like a clamp the seed plants because he's really really hot yeah really high and successful S. four successful in like the kind of human being in the world like I think something's wrong with him. No you found one of the ones that's really nice and doesn't realize how great they are. I know why they're Nice. Yes yes. I know it makes you are the talk nicely about your husband but I mean does yeah no. It does did it last time and you're AH gross. Why am I saying all these nice things? No I'm not publicly or privately really interesting to myself and my little journal that I don't have if I were to journal would not be my friend anymore. No I have one of my best friends like journals journals regularly and she used to have a little beanbag in the corner of her apartment Lewis string lights and all of her little therapy books and I was like your fucking loser every time I walk over. I'm like I'M GONNA fucking. Burn Your House. Don't let your discussed. How did she make it through? How why do you keep around because I fucking love her but again? There's that stupid word ruining all of our I love her but I'm like you're embarrassing all of our ambitions she would pack it when we go on vacation and to the fucking pool her little life journal and I was like put that shit away. Do you ever steal it. Read it of course chant everything that I've heard I was not surprised like Oh my God. It's exhausting but those are real friends. You should surround yourself with people you know. I gotta get myself some those. I like a no person a no person I. Why do I like no people explain? I think that it's important to like. I've had the same friends my entire fucking life. I think if you go through friends very quickly if it's like the best of the moment yet I don't fuck with you. I think it's you and I wanNA be friends with. You and I don't WanNA touch with football. I agree with that. What I've a question yes? I'm projecting show. What if you have friends from childhood you fell out because your mom's got into a fight and now you're back being friends again? Yeah Great. I got to great by the way that you only really need one like if you just have to have someone that you have gone through life with that has no new through all the phases in your life and it validates that you haven't become a fucking huge Kant. What is the timeframe that you're looking for your like if you don't have friends that lasts longer than blank or if you don't have a friendship that is blank long you are or a monster you know I think it's obviously like it's a vague generalization because I know people change and there's bullying and this that the other thing I have friends most of my best friends I mean elementary school? I'm still friends with all my friends from elements who God odd that is impressive and high school and then my adult friends that anyone that I've become really close with guests I have not fallen out with. I think I had one girl that I was friendly. Ish with and we just kind of whatever but anyone that I've been like this is my best friend. We still speak. Yes <hes> I think I think that's the range. Anyone you have said is my best friend. I gotTa stop using that term so freely you should know honestly you shouldn't because best friend means some like all whatever the ridiculous you're an adult best friend but anyone that you have considered like your like closest friend. Yes you have to have some longevity there otherwise you're the asshole or the asshole okay look inward ladies. I'm GonNa say if you can't keep a best friend for five years agreed. There's something wrong. There's something wrong with you. You need to go to therapy and you need to stop playing victim. I agree O- How do you like that okay so let's go back a little bit Bitch Bible. I'm sorry I'm like fully hijacking and just taking on Shit tangents instant friendship tangents. I'm sweating profusely. Are you are you I. I'm basically not wearing any clothing. I'm wearing all the clothing yes layers and a boost a scuba outfit. It's fucking high. What do you do over there? Cover my arms. I love you so whatever game oh we're going to get you okay sorry so I just WanNa talk about your podcast. Why podcasting? How did you get into it like Kyle saying saying now when I grow up I wanNA podcast by the way I would like to make it very very clear that my my job preference would be no job so no no no? You're not allowed to take your gift away from the world. Thank you there while God's kind I was a receptionist at an investment bank yes and writing of so bored out of my mind that I was writing articles like housewife reviews Andrew pump rules review and writing them for like different online dishes when you had the blog. Oh my God it's embarrassing but yes and I used to do just like really scathing vander pump rules real housewife reviews. Were you the hardest Black Bra celebrity on what you say. Oh my God like everybody. I know everybody. Ah were you probably got it really bad like Gretchen. Rossi got it really bad laid got it really bad laden in Gretchen rightfully so although I've heard in real life their love leap okay okay. I'm sure they're fucking fantastic kostic ridiculous ridiculous I saw him at the Countess Louis on show and I wanted to literally Barf in and then drown die in my own like I wanted to fucking guy. They walked in like Jaylo in a row get out. I was like SIPA fucked down. You're on a reality show. Oh you're embarrassing yourself addict down Gretchen. I wanted to die anyways really scathing to everybody selling these articles for like four dollars you know and then somebody found them. They asked me to come on watch. What happens live and be the bartender tender? Yes so I did a thrill. It was fun I mean especially when I was a receptionist and an investment bank and everyone's like dumb bitch behind the desk and then I lied and said I had food poisoning flew to New York to do live television genius move by totally genius. I was like Oh my God. I'm so sick never having tuna poke again. Meanwhile live from New York like waving and then they were starting to digital network. They asked me to be a part of it. They wanted to start doing podcasts. They asked me if I'd be interested in hosting podcasts and that's like what the Hell's upon yeah. I have never even heard what a podcast was. I was like okay so I I did it and then I was asked to leave my job interesting because basically and yeah so that's how I started okay but I never had any intention of doing anything of the sort okay so would you say when I got into this kind of like a just a fun hobby. Yeah I was naturally it was easy for me to do yeah I had no other option at that point because I was fired fired from my job erectile so that's kind of how I was kind of my only shot you know what I mean and then from there I mean I've been doing it for four years and now would you say it is a career now. Oh yeah without a doubt Oh yeah people don't understand. It's so funny like you get these. Fucking people like archaic RENTA's who don't understand that it's actually Guam Elam <hes> can they don't understand how you can make money from it and you can make a lot of Fuckin- money from yes queen preach tell the world's and it's nice and once you start seeing that cash flow you don't WanNa stop because you like bags and shit. Yes Me Meteo you know and it gives you flexibility. I have separate bank account for my husband eibnet so important. I don't participate financially in our life. No that's the rule the heterosexual couple. Are you kidding me. That's the only reason to be straight yeah no beyond my ex-husband. I was like no your money's. Our money in my money is minds money exactly like we'll use your house and I was like signed. Fuck you right which I did. Did I decorated our house. I paid for all the furniture real yeah girl yes. I paid for everything restoration hardware modern. It's fucking expensive holy crap it is a lucrative industry and I remind him all the time like this fucking Selva. Do you know how much this fucking south coast. I bought this. I bought the Sofa Alpha drink red wine in it yeah. That's so nice of you. I know a real giver dark charcoal so it's okay well so I had an exciting experience on my way here so before it comes to L._A.. Always GonNa Spray Tan. <hes> never had one what never ever had a spray Tan. Well go fuck you. I have I ju- skin you have like a like a California glowed. Stop It. I'll take it so. I'm very time which she's the most demoralizing thing in the entire world short of getting your vagina waxed yes. This is like right above it. 'cause you're standing at least me and my sausage body. I'm like been like those Venetian sausages. That's me as a human. I'm like an adult baby. I realize that girlfriend loves me me. She loves babies. Oh my God you're insane and I'm like the adult version look at these hands. Those are the hands of a child. You do have trial man. I'M NOT GONNA lie but it's just they're small like deeter toddler dimples. Those are cute do not to brag or anything. I like your hands. Those are cute fucking there Peter English fans and I hate them but I do love you and I would so have sex with him is my get out of jail. Free Card listen girl. I have to say hello to the crown for me. I just perfect. I'm sorry Peter Dane Clinch. Have you ever seen him pushing baby carriage. The same thing and it is sexy ish is it. That's what I say Jackie. Okay see I've seen it are really like it to wink wink wink wink for the Ding Ding by the fact that his last name is is just so on the knows I think Lynch I know he's a dinkal. He's a dangle which happens to be my girlfriend's petting him for me and it comes full circle. I am her Peter Dingle Edge Yeah Eh amazing. I mean we all need a little dinkal in our lives right so I'm getting a spray Tan and I always wear my granny panties because I've given up on drag to be appealing. You don't WanNa Tan your ass no 'cause. I don't want the person to see my ass. I literally only want my asked hand. Well you have a technician spraying you. I'm not like going with the Lasso into the booth Jackie. I went ten times on my zero my bag. I got confused. It was like those dance dance machines the arcade okay I got totally lost at came out and I looked like Tan mom to toned literally insane. Oh my God so technicians only but it's like a stranger looking at your naked body yeah. I don't love that I don't know. Do you like no. I don't love that are you. We naked person not at all then good not at all good. You're allowed to eat junk food because you work out and also your naked persons. No no no. I'm like quite the opposite actually and I think I have a pretty hot bod but I still in. I'm like not like that at all why I don't know I have no idea why I've always been like that. I mean besides this right. It's obviously I am a Jew for Jesus Christ and my body is my temple. No I just I don't no no I have like really big SAGGY tits that are embarrassing to me. Oh God I bet they're not at all. No no no they are prove it no kidding I will. I'm not that kind of a lesbian. No I would prove it you would die. They're just like big and like Oh. I hate them and I've never ever since I was a kid like I've keep my shit covered good right. Hey people that walk around confident and their bodies like I don't WanNa free my nipple. I'm very anti free the nipple imagine walking around a bathing suit like loving life. No it's GonNa be a suit. I like. I find all the moves. I can't cover up the bathing suit. I'm like worried about my angles and also like I finally got laser hair removal but like what who yeah you gotta get it good where everywhere really yeah but then I have to go back on the Bikini because that's like GonNa take a few martos tubes. They fight hard to stay. Oh my God they just keep on coming back just sporadically and little little patches. It's you're welcome Taylor Taylor's yeah right. There's another Taylor in the room. Turned on right now fully Iraq okay so absolutely ending there with my Peter Tinkle's body and say Dan and she's like wagging speech and I'm going to L._A.. Shed for worker for pleasure measure and I said for work and she said what do you do. I said audio podcasting she said Oh my God you have to check out my favorite pod council dear media and I'm standing there with my arms out getting spray Tan half. My Body is pasty in like celluloid. I was like I just signed with Adam and make sure that information. I want her to know too much about me. I been so honest. I'm an architect and I'm going to L.. A. Bill buildings total anyway but she was like raving about you you the Hamid her podcast. I was like fucking. Wow no she even referred to you guys like it wasn't even like Oh. I love these podcast. She was like best network. Ever dear media. I was at is some strong as branding people you are doing you are doing God's work. Arctic Michael Bostick just goes to like local spots and next slips people at twenty be like make sure that you mentioned dear next time here spontaneous girl in here. We'll raspy voice. Drop it in flip it in but anyway yeah. I'm like I just I'm Ah I love being here. I'm just so excited. True story getting fired from sears fucking suck on my God. I can't imagine especially after you've been there for so long so rude and the truth is it was a lot of smoke in Mir's there and like I think the reason why I love the game are you rich bitch is because when I was at serious everybody thought that we were all making millions of dollars and it couldn't have been further from the Tro Yeah Yeah Yeah and this industry is really interesting because I think sometimes the people you think are making the most are actually not at all and the people who are knowing like I don't know like when people were like once broadcasting and then it's like very lucrative and you'd be very successful. I think people are way off when it comes to money in this industry. Which is why I love you rich or are you rich right okay? I love it too. I don't know what it is. I'm a little nervous. Let's play it okay ready. I think so okay so how the game is called. It should be called. unlikable unrelatable loses all your subscribers well. I'm a poor bitch so I can do this fucking studio and I'm jealous of everybody with money so I'm like I'm I'm going to expose you all right. Are you that rich bitch okay. So what candles do you put in. Your House named the Brand Oh God I like this service segment so people get to like. I don't know what products you use but I also so can determine how rich you fucking well. I don't not all of them but I like dip teak dot rich bitch. I knew it sucked into it but I could also Fox with volumes SPA. Okay and I will not lie. I do have Gucci Candle but it's Cologne but it's not allowed to be burnt because it's a collector's item and my husband tried to let it one night and I almost fuck into capital. This is not to be burnt. We're not that rich rich by the way we're not rich. You're not Gucci Candle Burning Enrich your you're doing enough to have a Gucci candle but you can't like that. Exactly that makes me fucking love you. Yes we're not burning fuck and four hundred burning Gucci. Can you should go fuck yourself by the way I don't care if you're Bill Gates. You're not Burning Gucci fucking candle and if you have it in your house and you don't burn it. You're good to go yeah. You're recently clipping coupons to one hundred percent okay favorite body cream or body cream that you use oh I use. I use first-aid beauty ooh. What's that the repair cream it doesn't? I can't use anything with a fragrance Senate says you're dermatologists as my facial I say beauty honestly they sent it to me for free and I really like it. How do you like that? Oh I love there. We go humble. Bitch Free Okay Free F. R. E. SO I almost didn't get divorced because of my addiction to kills and that's a true story. Okay like my concern was like but how I in my body. No I got organs. You should've just loaded up for the divorce you were planning. I wasn't squirreling away the keells no <hes> what shampoo is in your shower right now DP Hugh. I don't know it so it'd be Justin Anderson. Justin Anderson's ends line of Products D._B._Q.. Cool Blonde is expensive. I got it for free so you live like a regiment. I see how this goes. You'll see re products laugh baggy bought. Oh the last bag who I I just bought it yesterday. It's a beautiful GIOVANNUCCI cross body with a chain on the bottom for when I got a Lollapalooza go last fares. You bought the your your fucking. You're you're just fucking. You're just absolutely ruining the. Don't you love his game. This is awful. I just want to apologize like I'm dying inside. No I making her answer these questions should I li- or should I be on ooh. I bought so ugly to expand the word I can't take them back. I tried they are like an over the knee white pair of off-white Virgil Oblong or however you say his last name boots when he can't even pronunciation designer you know Virgil abl he's the guy that does Louis Vitton but off white you rich bitch. I hate myself by the way more so fiscally irresponsible bitch if we could well. Let's talk all the red so give me a break. Oh Yeah Yeah. I'm just really seeing how bad money actually oh I'm. I'm a tax attorney. I forgot I have a fucking financial advisor and it's not a great meeting. He's like what excuse me. I'm an independent woman okay. I'll pay for everything myself well. He's like still doesn't make better when I say P._J.. What comes to mind listen? I know you flew on a piece of your accent. I think of of Pajamas fucking doc in don't I don't do you think I'm flying private. Fuck now. No never not once I have but it wasn't it was like a family friend. It was for free. It was for free. Yes Oh yeah I would never by the way for I'm sorry I don't care I would never <hes> no. I think it's colossally irresponsible. How many times have you flown first class? Mint counts to of a lot does business class the same save staying yeah. I want your life. Okay listen. We have a lot of miles better Michael Berry Mixture fucking podcast my husband and I know they pay for our fucking the breadwinner girl all right all right but this all right. I'm going to have to porn soon. I mean really same like my parents ruining my life. I know yeah it would be. It would be a dark time. I love my parents. I would be everywhere all the holes all the inner workings of from saying that made me nervous. I would be a high class escort yeah for sure for like a terminally ill billionaire. Oh Fuck yes. I always say obtain. I don't work out. I'm going back to men but specifically old men. They're like really close Adine that super yeah no terminal yes. That's the time where do you find them. cedars-sinai urgent and you just listen for the beep if you're there what for charity work uh-huh his aren't you what your Go-to restaurant in Los Angeles. I don't mean special occasion. I mean like it's go to like Oh. It's Tuesday or Wednesday WANNA go out. Let's go to blank probably sugar fish. I you go to shatter the Food Lion. Okay that's reasonable. One Yeah or deals are phenomenal either way unbelievable. Everyone thinks it's so fucking. It's like the best deal in town for great says she. If you really break it down yes I think sugar fishers fucking great. I go to sugar fish all the time I love it. Can we go oh. Yes it's so good. How many bathrooms do you have in my house and three okay yeah that's reasonable? It is at its yet yeah. I think so last vacation destination Australia okay or wait. No Yeah I palm springs. I was in Palm Springs or no I was in Ohi. Ohio was the last one where the housewives we're yeah yeah <unk> hope. When was that who was there Oh Yolanda Yolanda yes Kim Richards planned? It was her sobriety weekend yet. They were yeah I think so okay so after careful consideration you're rich bench to I prefer fiscal year graduate fucking relations. Don't don't know girl. Are you kidding me. Can you believe I mean what kind of a little kind of person walks away from the it's like what is wrong with you. I've no idea you know as she novak start to get ready and the gold starts to tarnish which it should not do. Can't you take it back me like listen like what the fuck you haven't had to sell it well. We're working towards that. That would be the darkest. I'm hoping that this endeavor can prevent me from selling my bag. No no no it will. I promise you get guarantee okay. I bought this like fucking month. One wow it's Balenciaga ladies and gentlemen and it's pink. I think it's yeah that's like a fuck you bag so fucking ugly and of noxious. It's amazing. Thanks I love it. I love it well Jackie. Thank you for giving so much of yourself. You're so welcome suggestively league financially and I just want to say I fucking love you love you think you're phenomenal and I think that you and Michael Lord and everybody else your media are doing amazing things and I think you honored and I'm privileged to be a part of the team. We love you really happy to have yeah. I I mean I'm ready to fit in now. We're like sorority sisters. He's not what it's really like kind of how well depends. We'll talk later Hayes Ace yes. I'm GONNA actually if there was a deer media sorority. I think I'd be in charge of hazing high-grade and what would you make me do just like weird shit like I make you. The first thing I'd want you to do is to crawl on all fours. Ok Not saying a word adjust to the due to the reception area just crawl. How fucking do it? I know I want you to and I want. I don't want you to say anything. I don't want you to laugh. I want you to keep your fucking head down just crawl done. I love a crawl and also guess what this is a swapping episode swapping Rooney so your husband and you get my girlfriend great I know after this is over. Guess what go right over to Jackie's podcast Bitch Bible and make sure to listen to I guess you interview me and asked me inappropriate meetings Gary Question for sure by the way why Bitch Bible. I don't really know that's what I was looking for. I don't know what's called Tesa Taylor just like enrolled off the tongue alliteration make the world go round. I like six years ago that always like the Bitch Bible Dot Com and then it constructed. I'm such a fucking good name. Is it yet really is Kinda hate. It sounds like a porn lesson especially because I'm a less spin lesbian sex sells okay whatever yeah I'll I'll. I'm this close to putting out a sex Taylor. Please do it. I'll do the lighting done. Okay guys make sure to jump over to Bitch Bible right now and listen to part to essentially right the podcast and I'm your host Tiller Strecker welcome to the new and improved taste of Taylor with dear media working much guys next week. Make sure to rate subscribe like it's five star to all the things you do Jackie. What am I supposed to do just basically like comment in give five stars and share it like pay it forward Haley Joel Osman style? I love that you know and also I mean if you're so inclined. If you want to do like an Instagram I dunno post and tag me in it. I will re post it or at least hearted. Oh that's generous.

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A Picture or a Memory

Bob and Sheri

1:32:13 hr | 2 years ago

A Picture or a Memory

"So let's get all of this show. Welcome everybody so the Bob and Sherry show with Bob. Here's what I do. I talk he on radio and Sherry near the Moose import now casting from the palatial Bob and Sherry Studios. It's Tom and Jerry start of another workweek. Everybody Zombie eating is the most interesting thing about Zombie eighty eighty percent of adult adult grown Americans. Do it Zombie Evening Zombie eating gaffe that seating whatever's in the refrigerator. It's eating while staring at a screen. Oh really eight percent of Americans are now Zombie eaters. Oh no that's terrible only five screen free meals per week God. Are you kidding me and ninety one percent percent of people in America say Yeah I definitely watch TV while I'm eating a meal or a snack every day at some point and forty nine percent almost half of a say I watch T._v.. All the time when I eat is a T._v.. Or just a screen it's both the I was going to say people are now staying at work and sitting at their desks <hes> fifty percent of us stay on our smartphones while we eat were reading our news feed or sending emails or whatever whatever <hes> thirty seven percent are watching youtube videos. People are not leaving their desks. <hes> sixty seven percent of Americans say. I don't leave my desk for lunch. I eat at work. Let's that set it is sad because I don't think we're more productive now. We're working all the time. The Europeans go out to <hes> like they leave the office. I mean not all of them but it's traditional to go out. Go to a restaurant you know with a CO worker. Kerr have lunch like a civilized person. We do that comeback in listen to this. You're really not gonNA like this. The average American grownup only eats three meals per week at their kitchener dining room table seventy nine percent of eating being is happening on the couch. Sixty four percent is eating standing up in the kitchen sixty. One percent is eating embed and forty eight percent of people are just eating on the floor guilty of almost all of lease you know. I think it's okay to watch T._V.. Once in a while if you're having dinner I mean I don't think that we are so old fashioned at the Lacey household that we wouldn't do that but there is not a TV that is accessible in our dining area so we would have to bring you know a screen in and Mary just lay down the law years ago I mean we've been together ten years now that we would with her children have dinner. There'd be no screens there. It'll be interesting to see when it's just the two of us well. I'm I already know what it's going to be like when it's just the two was because you know Olivia's works and Karema's dance with all of us are home. We dinner together at the dining room table and Kevin loves like he loves he. He Leaves T._V.. On for the cat. I mean he's there's always a T._v.. On the news will be on or jeopardy or some crap that nobody's even paying attention to in the next room but it's on when the girls are not home which which is <hes>. We have about three nights a week now where neither one of them are home right. The two of US will eat dinner about eight o'clock at night and while we watch a movie where on the couch on the couch yup now your houses kind of free. It's all on soul one so that's a little bit different I think but we have like this trae and we'll just throw everything on the trae because as an American you are obliged by law to know all of the T._v.. Shows that everyone is talking about. AH IF YOU'RE GONNA keep up with everything it's a job you don't have time to eat or sleep or group. You've got to be watching it while you shower. Watch it while you eat otherwise people go. Oh my God don't even talk to me until you finish the last three episodes veep. You're constantly trying to keep up without. I haven't done this but I'm almost to the point when somebody asks me if I'm watching like like pick series pick pick a series stranger a yeah. Are you falling stranger things. I'm this close I is to lying like I lied that when the guy at the Chinese restaurant said why don't you come in here and I said we moved. I'm very close to saying Oh. I Love Stranger Things Yeah Oh just to make it end just so yeah to make it in but attention somebody will say what do you think about the fact. That barb was killed. You think she's shots I was I was really shocked or they'll. They'll say something and you won't get the joke. They'll say something like yeah fat Rambo Right Eight and you'll be like oh <hes> you won't have any ideas you've got to be careful but with stranger things all you have to say with stranger things is this don't tell me anything. I haven't started season <hes> seal. That's good just say I have season three. I'm still catch Oh. That's religious leave it at that walkaway. This is one of the great <hes> my new favourite great theme songs. I mean it's just so mad as it is and you know what it was done by probably one verse Dino What we just finished watching nine and we finished it last night while eating dinner on the couch escape at Dan Amora which is based on that true prison escape in upstate New York. You know what I'm going to tell you about it. Let's pause here though because Max's Max's giving me the pause now I've seen it escaped anamour several times. That was very good good. Yeah I'll tell you about next spun Sherry Nationalist Association in of Broadcasters Agree. It's one of the best shows in the country celebrating their ten nation for Marconi awards bob and Sherry okay so we're talking about how as an American you're legally obligated to watch ten million T._v.. Shows no all about them. One one of them that I kept having people tell me watch is escape. It Dan Amora and Patricia Arquette who plays the woman in the show has won all sorts of awards like a Golden Globe and so the show is very buzzed about it's on showtime. They're only seven episodes and it's based on that true story and Dan and Dan Amore this little town in upstate New York where the Clinton correctional facilities maximum security prison couple of inmates in the summer of Twenty fifteen escaped Richard Matt and David Sweat Sweat and after their escape it turned out that they were both kind of having an affair with this married female prison employee named Tilly Mitchell and she was entangled with both of these convicts. I remember the San her husband Lyle. <hes> not only stood by her he. Did he still standing by her. She's imprison now. He's waiting for her to get relief. Yeah I remember talking about this. I'm with you and and <hes> we just were trying to figure out what was with the husband that he would hang with a woman who is doing not only getting these guys out but it was romantic both having sex with both listen after after you watch Patricia arquette is amazing in this after you watch this you'll go lyle. I don't know why you're with her and not because she cheated on you but because she's really a selfish awful human being exactly right. That's how she's yeah so a couple of things about this seven episode series on showtime. I think you can watch on Hulu to <hes> Ben. Stiller of all people directs it <hes> and you if you don't know the true story you go into a kind yeah. I know this is based on a true story. You don't remember a lot of the details he waits until the sixth episode to to give you the backstory on these two inmates so the by the time you get to the eight the sixth episode they've escaped gaped and you know how you kinda almost root for the bad guy sometimes sometimes even though you know like I know you're terrible but and I know you're going to get caught but ron right like the sopranos right like spoon us and there's a a very subtle call out to Tony Soprano that you'll catch but anyway he waits till the sixth episode to give you the backstory on these two inmates and by the and this is the genius of that decision by the time he tells you who they are and what they did and why they're in a maximum security prison <hes> it's even more sickening to you because you have gotten to know these characters and it's not like you like them but you're you're caught completely by surprise at how absolutely evil and cold blooded these two people are whereas if you knew that upfront you wouldn't be drawn to them. You wouldn't be as invested exactly yeah that was smart. It's are- aren't ever seen that by director before that part of it is really well done. I had to pause episode six midway through and walk away from it because I was physically sick in a way that the violence you know you get used to movie violence and T._v.. Violence but this was a whole different order magnitude now Patricia arquette character Tilly Mitchell based on a real person and there's a fifty fifty chance that someone who knows her loves her is hearing me say that she's a selfish awful person apologies but that's how she's portrayed in this thing she's just portrayed as like a human black hole <hes> so I remember when this thing actually happened in twenty fifteen <hes> feeling like really sympathetic toward harlot you you don't know what's in somebody's life but boy the way they portray her in this show. I just couldn't figure out her husband. Was He trying to save face because he was so embarrassed that his wife was two guys and the T._v.. Show Oh escape it. Dan Amora Lyle loves her right up until the end. He knows what she did but he he's like I'm going to wait for you feels lucky to have but say he's my friend. We have to have a talk. He's got nobody in his family. Could I'd say man. Let that go what your losses change you name. Love is weird thing but you for the rest of their lives. He has the upper hand in that relationship. How well that's true? Heads up after you watch this. You'll take those words back the only if you're with this woman ewing never got no upper hand in anything. It's really even though she's in jail. Yeah it's really good. I'm just telling you it's superintendents. How many how many episodes only seven seven seven game of thrones now you can do seven? That's right Benadryl. I love that I loved all. Are you hiring with indeed. You can post job in minutes set up screener questions then zero in on qualified candidates online dashboard get started at indeed dot com slash higher Sherri we we live in a world where we're surrounded by so so much technology and we swim in so much like disinformation on social media <hes> that it's easy to forget that their individual people behind some of these <hes> platforms and inventions that made all of this possible and even even more difficult to believe is that one of these people have stepped up and apologized. There's a developer named Chris weather all and he's the guy who invented the re tweet button for twitter yeah and he said I really regret regret it because basically we've handed a four year old loaded gun. That's what we've done. That's what the re tweet button is done. So since you're not a twitter guy I'll explain before the re tweet button. If you wanted to re tweet somebody on twitter you would copy and paste their tweet and add the were had the letters are t to it and then tweeted out off your own account <hes> and when you had to do that you had to kind of there was so many steps as little work the yeah disorder like really think about what it was you were you're doing <hes> but with the re tweet button which hasn't been around but for handful of years now you can just hit with one tap and send all kinds of craziness out into the world and he said that he realized that the re tweet button was a force for evil in two thousand fourteen during Gamer Gate and I'll remind you that gamer gate was this like really ugly awful thing that happened online where <hes> thousands of people people were harassing and threatening women who work in the video gaming industry and Gamer Gate was the first time that we saw the tweet button go into like a mob mentality thing and of course the re tweet button also helps spread bread the Pizza Gate Conspiracy Back <hes> twenty sixteen and he he said it's a mistake and we shouldn't have done it. You know what though he should let that go because if he didn't invent it somebody else would have. It's not like he was. That's the only guy on the planet they would have come up that idea. How unusual and kind of awesome is to see a human being take responsibility for something? No I totally agree. I think he's a good person to do that and to realize you know what people are using it for in many cases but but I don't think he should beat himself up. You know there's a person named Justin Rosenstein and you know what he invented. He invented the like button on facebook and he regrets that so much that he has no apps apps on his phone because he said that there to addictive and that <hes> social media and APPS and gaming ours addictive is heroin and they're destroying people's ability to focus his reinvented the like button he's. I wonder how much you got for that. I don't know because he was a facebook employees. What's their deal that I don't know I don't know wouldn't that tick you off? If you invented something that became so ubiquitous and you only got like a salary owlry for it my guess is that all those frontline developers facebook and twitter. They're doing okay that they all made a ton of money so now you know the name of the person who invented the like button and he regrets it and the guy that invented the re tweet and he regrets it and what does that tell you about how addictive and toxic these things are. Maybe they should give their fortune back if they really feel that way you know <hes> maybe some of them. Have maybe some the I don't know ladder. A lot of these people are <hes> no longer working for facebook or two. That's a very off doing other things. They're smart. Smart people and I agree with you. I mean to step up and say this was a mistake. It's it's not a tool for good. This is a specially ruining younger people's lives. I mean it's it's a terrible situation. The the number of people that go to state parks in any state in the United States is way down now. National Parks are thriving because of their grandeur and so on but state parks are way down in the main reason people think is that folks just staying inside you know re tweeting and watching everything to watch on television. Eh If you're we talked about the other day if you're going to keep up with any conversation you really cannot afford to leave your house because there's so much that you have to or you have to lie and say that you're watching it yeah otherwise people go oh. You're not watching game. I would you have time for the conversations about the things you're supposed to be watching if he acts all those things time for that and that's right the chicken or the egg right I saw it speaking of twitter. There is a tweet I saw the other day and it was from someone who said Ugh. If you're not watching killing eve don't even look at me. Why are we so confrontational? It's talk to me. Oh speaking of don't look at me. I pulled this side. It's become sort of thing in Hollywood <hes> Leonardo DiCaprio according to the Hollywood reporter the crew on his once in a time <hes> <hes> once upon a time in Hollywood were quote instructed to avoid making eye contact with him so if you saw Leo you you had to avert your is let me just say if I looked like Leonardo DiCaprio aprio I would want everyone to here's another guy thought I can't verify this but I think the the Great Pharaohs of Ancient Egypt want you to look at them. Yeah I would think Yummy your I guess maybe it's the eye contact you just doesn't want to engage with a crew member on your life delight when you give out those kind of command what sort of life for you live who is a singer that you couldn't emotional twain. You couldn't make look for your head will morons in the news is next. It's Bob and Sherry Bob and Sherry your they are. It's morons runs in the news you know I don't like to hear any bad news at all. If I'm flying in an aeroplane like you know how sometimes the pilot will come on you're not even off the ground and he says forty five minutes into the plight is going to get Kinda roughs ladies and gentlemen. We hope you'll strap in and try to pick up some comair right about that. I don't WanNa know so I would hate to be on the Dutch airline Kale about a week ago <hes> there India Branch tweeted needed of a fun fact they tweeted out this is this is k._l._m.. According to data the fatality rate for the seats in the middle of the plane are the highest however the fatality rate for seats in the front is marginally elite lesser and is least for seats in the rear third of the plane <hes> they deleted the tweet about twelve hours later and apologized. You'll work for the airline. Where's your sense? Don't give people some. I'm really scary images. We were just talking about social media. No saying no all right. Let's go to Ohio where Cincinnati's circus company had one of their trailers stolen from their private lives and it's a close tractor trailer container. You wouldn't know what was in it so they're assuming the thief did not realize that what he or she stole was a bed of nails a coffin and and a fake electric chair now these things are worth about ten thousand dollars and the circus has not been able to do performance as usual. They've had to borrow some things from other circuses. They had to cut back shows and the <hes> ringmaster of the circus posted a video and a photo on facebook showing a truck driving off with the trailer containing the bed of nails and said you've heard a small business in everyone everyone that works for a very harmful way. I want you to know that that's really nice so I wondered he's going to do with the bed of nails in unless you're in radio under a new that they were stealing circus stuff. I don't think so speaking of a bed of nails <unk> I took care me and one of her friends to what's that caught the upside down building. You see they haven't in Myrtle Beach in Orlando Wonder Works Yeah and they've Abed of nails that you can lie on so you lie flat on this Plexiglas last operator hits a button and there's been nails surprise off of course I did because I felt like well. You need to lie still on your bed of nails absolutely feel the chef at a resort in England got fired a few days ago. We're bullying another shift. He works with and pouring boiling butter down his pants. He poured it down the back of his pants. which I I guess in the go one or the other is probably the better you said it was a fun joke and then the guy ended up in the hospital was serious burns through his but the guy who got burned is they davies and he says there's been a pattern of bullying in Houston burned there before he also had black is from being punched by the chef at work? I gotTa Tell You my friend Nathan. Why are you still working there? Somebody's hit me in the face of boring butter down your but that it makes no sense. Would you stay there. One second after that happened in Gordon Ramsey's not involved in my mother Theresa all right. I gotTA do a floor demand story for you now. So Florida guy named Anthony Richardson. It was stopped by a drug task force. I guess they were doing routine. Traffic stops like they do for alcohol and they ask if they could search his car and Anthony said Yeah but before you look for drugs there's there's a live baby gator up here in the front seat so they asked him if he had a licensed to trapper hunt alligators and he said now my buddy gave me this and they need told them I'm taking the gator to a river to release them. Which is what you doing Florida when when cops searched the vehicle sure enough? There is an alligator in the front seat. They did his gator he was holding it for a friend. 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Here's how you know dead but syndrome <hes> do you sit for expended extended periods of time for your job 'cause when and you do your gluts shut down and it strains all your other muscles you can lead to something called synergistic dominance where the little helper muscles on your hip and leg takeover for your but 'cause you're bud is is dead. I I'm trying to process this your but is dead. Your bite is it's not really dead and it's just it's. It's just not getting any kind of a workout. Perhaps where I saw off you don't WanNa have dead but syndrome gloomy GLUTEAL Amnesia stand up gluteal Amnesia also sounds like a conditional some of the folks. We've worked that one that used to be next door. We had a bad case. That's right the best way to prevent Ed but syndrome is to <hes> take frequent breaks to stand up. You've got to walk around. You've got to keep your but mess muscles active every hour you need ten minutes of but muscle workout so so should you get it by walking around or could you sit and just kind of your book standoff sure you guys stand out okay and according to this article that I read about Nen but syndrome <hes> you need to do wide stance jumps squats. What's that that sounds like something you don't WanNa do an address at the office <hes> sidesteps with your hands side lunges castaway start over again with what you have to do because that all sounds very confusing? What was the first one a wide stance jump squat? What's that you know what a wide stands up in the air squat down squat jump into jump in the air? You want it. Yeah I can do that. Let me say don't want you to crash in anything are wide stance squat jump there you go. Somebody's booty is awake and at the wheel thank you thank you very much calmed down down there. It wasn't what's the second one oh the imagine anybody passing by the window of by no yoga what it now though people look in here and we we could the place could be on fire and they would just keep walking. What's the size band strap it on the upper part of your ankles? Bend your knees and Walk Sideways to the left for ten tonight. Ten steps then sideways to the right for ten steps. I think you don't need the ban to do that. I've seen the daily burn that I do yeah the the workout thing <hes> they have. It's do sidestep stuff. It's about about four steps to the right then four steps to the left and you're not really crouching but you're in an athletic position right yeah because Americans do not I mean we walked forward. Sometimes we back up. We don't go sideways and you need to they'd be able to exercise that way to aside lunch. You know what that is. <hes> kettlebells squat we don't have any kettlebells in the studio but if you just want to hold my handbag it's about his heavy as squat with that and then a lateral step up so you know you you would go up on the stairs and you step up and then <hes> lose use your gluts and clench it. I guess and what we know that we we should be getting up in moving around. I mean didn't they. Then we have a thing like once an hour should leave your desk and our ten minutes. Here's the thing that that I thought when I was reading about gluteal Amnesia the epidemic of dead but syndrome sweeping America was not all that long ago the some of our ancestors and not even distant ancestors others were literally walking across the United States next to covered wagons to settle the American West veteran. If you would've stopped some of those folks as a Guy uh-huh Mary you're great great grandchildren will have dead butts they would not have blend and by the way those people even though it was a hard life. They didn't have these problems of course they. You didn't have weight problems. They were walking twenty five miles. A day. Meanwhile the Donner Party just texted me text me and said yard. Tell him our butts were dead but we had to each other. That's in a very historically short amount of time we went from walking across the continental United States. That's true D- Having Dead but syndrome as an epidemic. Let's write the other thing that we did and people are starting to say. I need to change my life. He is that were missing a lot of experiences taking in a lot of experiences so we can photograph it with our phone instead of being in that instead of being in that moment and what people are realizing facing now it. I want to continue talking about this somewhere. Along the line is that they lose those pictures or that video or they just deleted or whatever and they don't memory. Don't have it in their heads talk about we'll break right here. So if you are sitting down and go dot driving don't let your but die stand up moving around it's Bob and Sharing Nationalist Association of broadcasters agree. It's one of the best shows in the country celebrating their the Mark Levin Sherry. I WanNa talk about bikinis. It's summertime. We're going to do that in just a moment but we have to finish what we were talking about. Just a couple of minutes ago more than half of millennials say they have missed a huge food life moment because they were trying to capture it for social media sixty percent said it was important at the time to get likes on social media but now all of a sudden folks stepping back can saying you know what I'm never going to look at it again. I wish I had it in my head. I wish I had it as a memory. Give you an example. My wife did the right thing here. It was the father daughter dance at my daughter alleys wedding right and so Mary is over in a corner where she has a good vantage point of alley and me dancing and there's she took a picture of it on her iphone. There's one picture but she wasn't moving around and you doing a video. Oh and she wasn't taking multiple pictures. She took one shot and then she stopped and she just watched and as I came around dancing with alley I could see her crying so she took in in that moment. I'm talking about Mary. Yeah she took in that moment and what it meant to me and what it meant to my daughter. She has that in her head and I have it in my head of you know Mary getting all you know kind of weepy you over over the moment if she was moving around with the camera doing a video it wouldn't be the same experience no because you I mean you know from your own experience that when you're taking pictures of things you're and taking videos you're watching them but you're not in it. No because you're trying to frame it is the light ride in all of that at Olivia's graduation <hes> I was sitting with Kevin and Rachel and one of Olivia's friends from elementary school <hes> and I'm like one of you guys can you roll video. I need need to send the video of Olivia's name being announced grandparents who live in sure <hes> and right outside Minneapolis and in Utah and all over the world but I didn't WanNa be the one shooting that video 'cause. I just wanted to be in that good for you. That's right. You did the right thing so anyway. That's a movement and I hope that continues now Bikinis C._N._N.. Style had this really interesting article about Ursula Andress who was as an actress and she was the first bond girl in the doctor no movie which was the first James Bond movie so they they went back and they interview as an iconic Bikini by hopefully I cock and I always knew that it was yeah I think most of our audience is probably seen the scene where Sean connery is James. Bond is on this island that Dr no the evil Dr no is on and out of the water comes this gorgeous woman with this incredible body in a white bikini and she has a knife that is strapped to her leg because she searching for conch shells and she puts her hand on the knife because she doesn't know what 007 is up to hear right. I didn't realize how important that scene was the cultural history at that time and that was according to the C._N._N.. Article at that time bikinis were almost never seen in the movies. There is only like maybe four scenes in popular movies where there was a keeney. This was probably the mid sixties it changed everything at that point the when that movie was released the Catholic Church said this was a sign of the end that human human beings had had sunk that low and <hes> she said in this interview that that one scene and by the way it was her idea to strap on the knife to give her power opposite a man. She said that one scene set me up her whole career for career well when I remember when Halle Berry was in one of those bond movies that reading an article about how her bathing suit in that movie it was a tribute to that Oh is that right yeah and I don't. I don't think Ursula Andress had this big career. I don't remember anything else but that one see not only changed how people viewed keys in the movies but all of a sudden women started wearing shit a steady career. Did you really get you know I'm looking here and <hes> she was performing in something up until two thousand five. Oh no kidding YEP. She's got into what seventies imagine eh but isn't that interesting that the scenery she's Oh gosh eighty-three. That's that's kind of how it really became pop to rise and today you can go to a beach and there's a girl in a Thong Bikini and then eat no big deal ever really thought about. I guess yes I figured that those beach blanket movies data but no nationalist Association of Broadcasters Agree. It's one of the best shows in the country the Sherry Sixty eight thousand women. That's quite a few were asked. What is the most important thing in a partner? What of the top three things that women look for in a partner? I'll tell you about that in a second but very quickly clear. I just wanted to touch on Selma Blair. It's been twenty years since cruel. Intentions came out and that's the first time I think a lot of people ever saw Selma Blair and she remained friends was Sarah Michelle gellar and of course some Blair. She's starring in the Netflix. Afflicts series and other life has M._S. and people magazine just did an article about her. She said when I announced that I had M._S.. I was sure I was going to be called in and fired because that's how cruel Hollywood can be they. They don't want any part of anything that could be difficult but she was called in by the female producer and the producer said we're going to do everything we can to make sure that you're okay in obviously you're keeping your job and we're going to try to make sure that your life life is is <hes> manageable when you're on the set not only that but Sarah Michelle gellar got together with reese witherspoon and a couple of other friends and they took turns bringing food to some Blair and her child and I thought that was really really cool then they're rich enough just to have a service do that but they went and made the food and brought it to her on a daily basis and it's been going on for awhile 'cause I think it's just so much better when somebody put their own effort into it. They really you know that a friend is they're gay. Just you know you think because they're rich and famous they don't they wouldn't act like a regular regular worse. That's crazy <hes> so I'm looking at this picture of Selma Blair and she looks fantastic. The only thing is her signature for me was that dark hair that really intense dark hair with that white skin and she's a blonde nash kind of a honey blonde it doesn't for me. It doesn't even look like her. She's still beautiful. It's a great color. It's a great caller yeah but I just always picture her with that <hes> Darcy I would like to have that color hair. I told Jason who cuts my hair that I would like to have that what color hair and he told me that I cannot have that because to go blonde when you have dark naturally dark hair is really like he said you'd have to come live in my house for four or five days and then you would hate your hair because it wouldn't be soft and shiny anymore. It would be my hair process. Yeah Yeah yeah get it that way so I if you had here that was like a little less intensely dark you can get away with more here. It's easier when your hair's not super duper dark sixty eight thousand women and <hes> the survey asked what is the most important trait that you look for in a partner and here are as I said the top three actually it's the top five. I'll start with number five confidence education intelligence supportiveness and kindness kindness is number. One looks and money are not in the top five because if you're good looking at have money and a complete tool yeah yeah it's true although I heard one of medicines friends the other day say and she wasn't kidding now. These are girls that are <hes> would see second year college. She said I I was asking her. I said well what what do you WANNA do. When you get out of school she said do you want the truth and I went yeah? I WANNA marry somebody rich and have a baby is is this nineteen sixty. Okay AH shoes serious well. You know what maybe that'll work out for her. It might I suppose and real cute girl. You know maybe that'll work out in your first husband. We'll have some money. Maybe that'll be okay for you. It'll be your first husband won't be your forever husband now. You don't know that I may maybe she meets somebody who's a really great guy and he just happens to be very successful or inherited. A lot of money. Yeah wants a family happen sure could yeah. Why are you so doubting because when you're aiming it's not it's not I want to find my my my mate in life and have a family? That's not what she said. I WANNA marry somebody rich rich and have a baby so when you look at those those kind of targets <hes> what are the chances are that if we meet somebody rich that we just overlook whatever incompatibilities might be there just aim for that. Ah You know it's no. I understand you know <hes>. I've only had one guy that I bumped into in my entire life. Whoever said you know when I get married I want her to have money and remember when this guy said that and I was so so shocked I was just so shocked that he was even thinking that way? That's changing though house. What do you mean why so why is it that is changing? There's a whole term for it. We talked about it Hobo Sexual. 's guys who were like you know. I'm just GONNA take it easy not real worried about my own like thing. One I WANNA marry. A woman is really focused with a great job. That's an unattractive name for that particular Guy Hobo sexual woman wants say hey I just got and get what's he like. He's a Hobo Sexual. That's come up with a new a new term. That's changed our guys out there that that's what they're looking for. It must be generation. They're successful guy. Yes Yup. They're successful guys. That's what they're successful at doing doing this also it's not just the generational change in that way like Oh. He's looking to be supportive. It's a generational changing how you define yourself like you're not so defined by your job and your paycheck as one of the greatest generation or boom but I but they're still looking for somebody to be the meal ticket or to have like a real significant contribution paying for the meal ticket calf. It's Bob and Cherry Cherry on the free Bob and Cherry APP. How so somebody sent me a joke and not everybody will like the joke but I just loved this joke and it's not GonNa get a big laugh but I have to get it out because it's just earier gets you're GONNA explode? It's the per L. Explode. It's perfect joke okay <hes>. Do you know what a crisis manager is. If if you're a celebrity or a politician and you've gotten into trouble so now you got a crisis going on you have these companies and they will fly in a crisis manager richer and the crisis a friend of mine used to do this. Actually a crisis manager will say are. Here's how you handle it. Get out in front of it have to admit that this was wrong. You know talk to the media about this. Don't say that the crisis manager so here's the joke r Kelly's Kelly's crisis manager just resigned. He will take a less stressful job as a shark suit tester. That's true story by the way Dr is r Kelly's crisis manager again. He resigned last week. That's what you do for a living but you cannot take well. You know that that's that's a crisis when it creates yeah. You're in trouble when the crisis manager bills out so <hes> we were just talking if you're just joining US folks that sixty eight thousand women were asked what is it that you look for in a significant other and the top choices were kindness supportiveness intelligence education and confidence. Those are the top five <hes> looks in money on eat not in the top five <hes>. I thought it was interesting and I believe it. I think you know women do feel that and I was saying to myself what what are the top things that I look for in a woman and I'm just going to be honest. <hes> <hes> a funny goofy person who can put up with me. That's that's kind of it at the top now. I'd like to be smart you know and I have one. That's very smart and I let her to be a good mother and she is is but a funny goofiness who can who likes me. Those are the top thing I do feel like liking. You is the bare minimum we should seek if you're GONNA have to swap make your <hes>. I've learned nut to expect too much. You know look Apron listen. He gets up early and he has to eat all the time yeah but he's a great guy I just I d alaikum. Do you like them a little bit because you gotta like him a little bit if you can she says going to stay with Hitler I mean there are other things obviously that I would like to have somebody who is industrious and you know clean and sexy and all that but the United for you're going to be honest just that goofy you know good sense of humor. I don't think I could be long-term marrone. Somebody that wasn't a funny person probably not that will probably be wearisome for you. I have I have snapped out of yourself. Oh what do you mean by that. You snap snapped out of yourself. Snapped snapped out of your worry cycles snapped out of your like. Would you know I must do this. I must do this must do this like you need to be reminded to relax sometimes and just live your life and have fine. Yeah Yeah Okay because that's not that bad. Had No snapped. I mean I understand that I do worry about things but there's nothing wrong with that with a man who's like real wound up an intense I just I don't need that energy at all. I wound up intense for all of no. I need a man. Who's like you know a little more chill yeah? He's like it's five o'clock somewhere like I need a really late night yeah yeah. I think you're better off with suppose you with somebody like yourself. Well that's why you and I never hooked up because it would have just been disastrous just an awful nightmare. No one could escape from terrible okay. I get the idea a worst with you. A long time. Discharge couldn't have been that would wind you would other up we wind each other up here now. Imagine if we shared mortgages the kids and everything out that's true so bad news though gotta be honest National Association of broadcasters agree. It's one of the best shows I was in the country Tesama nation for Marconi awards bob and Sherry so late last week on the show. We were trying to calculate how many weddings Bob would have to be a guest that in order to in an eating their meatballs drinking vodka tonic in order to break even all the way thinks that he's paid for and we came up with just over a two thousand five hundred four so he's got a lot of wet coach and that made me think of this wedding that Tony who we work with and and his wife Donald Way too it was the most dazzling dazzling extravagant wedding I've ever heard of in my life so we got tony to come on in describe it so Tony by how you knew the bride so it's a good friend of mine <hes> who I've known on for thirty years actually we became acquainted through business and <hes> and we've just continued. We don't do business. We haven't done business in a long time but we've continued to have that relationships without thirty years now so he invites you to his daughter's wedding though yes he was a New Jersey and he invites us his daughter's wedding his daughter is <hes> twenty eight or something like that and so <hes> so we fly out on a Friday evening because the wedding is going to be a Saturday evening and it was the probably one of the most <hes> expansive spreads I've ever seen in my life gives us an idea. What was there okay so <hes> it started before even the wedding started when we showed up at the hotel there was a gift bag for us that had snacks in it and water and a book of I don't know love poems or something like that <hes> and <hes> and then it had instructions because there was a shuttle to take us from the hotel? We were staying at to the place where the wedding and the reception we're taking place so really it started Friday night. <hes> and then the wedding was Saturday evening so Saturday we get on the we get on a little shuttle and we go to the to the wedding and <hes> the couple of getting married or both Jewish <hes> he is <hes> <hes> Persian in their Persian <hes> and so we go and the before the wedding even starts there's champagne for everyone in this sort of congregating meeting area and then we're all sent upstairs josh to <hes> to sit for the actual ceremony which is really beautiful and took about twenty or twenty five minutes where we get cocktails before the actual things starts. I was that too so there's probably they're probably two hundred fifty people at the wedding so the pretty good size crowd after the so after their after the ceremony everybody goes downstairs and there's a cocktail hour and so the room is set up. It's the same room that we had the champagne in but during the service they turned over the room there was a carving station with roast beef. There were two women that were hand-rolling Burritos. <hes> there was a Sushi bar there was a pasta bar <hes> and then there were two or three open bars with pretty much anything anything you wanted to drink. They would give you business Sushi bar. If you could go to a wedding with a Sushi bar you might only have to go to nine thousand nine hundred wedding to break in this wedding. I would be stuffing food in a bag in my if we didn't have to fly in for this wedding. Trust me <hes> I would have. I would've definitely done that so <hes> <hes> anyway so that's that's what we do there <hes> and it felt like it was longer than an hour but <hes> but yeah I I don't know 'cause I was roaming around to see how much food I could could consume and so what about the pop up bakery Bob. Can you let me get to that because there's more than that was just like appetizer okay. I'm sorry dinner right. Then there was dinner they just huge <hes> that's huge spread and everybody's table with Hamas and pita bread and breadsticks there was a there was a salad. There was a soup there was dinner by the way this was all served to us by <hes> waiters. There's a band <hes> after dinner. They brought desert before they brought the wedding cake so there was like some apple cobbler something that everybody got and then they cut the wedding cake and everybody Kinda got a pizza wedding cake Bob that you have Sushi you she in your pants now stuffed your face the roast beef and pasta bar. You've got a cocktail and you just had to sit down. I'M GONNA keep eat seven Roman cokes by now so I'm trying to get my trying to get my money's worry and <hes> so it's now it's like midnight or a little bit before midnight and we're ready to get on the shuttle back to the hotel my friends I go to thank my friend and he stops as you're not staying for the after party. I'm like what after party he's like. We got a D._J.. A._J. in the other room this was back in the room. That had the cocktail party. He's got back in that room. He said I hired a D._J.. And we got burgers and hotdogs and I'm like dude. I'm stuff. I can't eat another thing. He's like well at least stop at the bakery on the way out some like okay and and I think anything of it I think <hes> you know Oh. It's just you know it's just some pastries or something. Oh No it was a bakery they had two of the two counters that looked exactly like bakery count as the curb the glass the light and everything they had donuts they had cookies. They had brownies. They had <hes> I couldn't I mean <hes> any kind of pace or you could imagine they had they are and a couple of guys by the countersign what he wants and and so it up and they put it in a little white box and they tied with string like you do it a regular bakery and and that was <hes> you know that was our <hes> that was first this class Neil on southwest airlines flying home. This food and drinks situation that you're describing is what bob he won't come right out in admit it's what he believes should be happening at this radio station for him every Monday through Friday he believes there should be a pasta the bar a Sushi bar bakery while it can think about if I were the groom at this wedding I would then find out the next day that the wife doesn't like to cook so it would be a me. We both admit that sounds great the bakery thing. I've never even heard to that. I've been to a few weddings Tony. Thank you very much. Welcome guys enjoyed it. That's waiting. You could get your money. It's Bobbins Jerry. Talk back to back each on the free Sherry APP and leave us a message okay couple of Showbiz stories here Katy Perry ended our long national nightmare when she sent Taylor swift and olive branch inch and that concluded one of the bloodiest conflicts in human history the beef between Katy Perry and Taylor Swift Katie and Taylor can get along Campbell. I know that's exactly right in an Australian radio you interview Katy Perry said I realized how much we have in common and that we should celebrate her commonality and our friendship and be able to be there for each other. I think we have influence on young people especially young girls who are in this type type of situation day in and day out at school. I hope that other people can learn from it too. I don't know half the time I think that these beeps between singers are just all manufactured because they always occur when there's a new album that's coming out so that there's you know press coverage bla-bla-bla but the thing that I really liked by the way <hes> Katie appears in Taylor's recent video you need to calm down and that was <hes> Taylor's idea. Evidently she called Katie and said I need to meet you in person discuss this and Katie. She said she invited me over to her house. She made me some cookies and she actually makes those cookies and they are actually delicious. Wouldn't it be funny if you could you could see like a video of Katie walking into Tillerson's Chris Kitchen and Taylor is there. I Made Cook made some cookies for you. Why don't you try one of these cookies and I think it'd be funny if if daily said they they don't have any laxatives U._p.? Fine Yeah have another one. You're you start the tour tomorrow don't you what was their beef about. Originally something backup dancers yeah that's right Katie Katie one of the backup dancers or Taylor's. Somebody accused somebody of stealing their backup Dan. It's not like you can find a backup dancer in L._A.. You know just just check through J.. Lo and Britney's access to be one also in show business news <hes> evidently prosecutors in Massachusetts have dropped the sexual assault charges against Kevin Spacey. He was facing a felony charge of indecent assault for allegedly groping at eighteen year old guy at a bar three years ago the Guy <hes> let's say there were issues with his cell phone that was part of the evidence he exercised his Fifth Amendment right and refuse to testify so they dropped the case now Kevin Space Jobs that one that one he is not out of the woods yet but the other day he was quoted as saying. I am ready to get my career back on track again. I want before all this happened. I thought he was a fantastic tasks the character I loved him in house of cards but with all of this. I don't think that he can rekindle the career to you. I still think he's fantastic actor thing that happened with Anthony Rapp who is one of the originators in rent of the rent when he described what happened to him when he was still an underage a teenager with Kevin Spacey. I think that taints him forever. Yeah I agree. I don't see how he can start government. Some of these people still work but their careers never recovered. Allen is classy example that there there are people who follow Woody Allen they have all their lives. They love him as director as a writer as performer and I'm sure sure those has those and he may see rent at once and then you read it again. I can't believe this. It's Bob and Cherries and believed this is just one of those amazing stories of timing and luck in being in the right place this happened in Brazil. An off-duty firemen man was walking down the street minding his own business. When something caught his eye he looked up and a dog was dangling from sixth floor window it had pushed through the safety screen while its owner wasn't at home and was hanging from the six store the only thing keeping the dog this story the only thing keeping the dog from falling to the ground? It's back legs. Were still on the window sill. So the off duty firefighter there was a construction project on the ground floor of the off duty firefighter ran in grabbed a tarp jobs for some some people on the street to help him and they they stretched the tarp out and moments later the two year old dog came sailing ailing through the sky plummeting six stories and crashing into the tap into the dog hit a satellite satellite dish on the way down but she's fine. She had some bruises and she heard her mouth. A little little bit took the dog to Vet Clinic. The dog is absolutely fine because this firefighter looked up saw what was happening and immediately had a plan had a plan. That's because he's trained to do that because if you go go into a house that's on fire. You don't know what you're walking into their. You don't know exactly where the stairs are where the doors are. You don't know what you're encountering so you are trained to always look around and say what should I do at this at this moment this Faisal Taylor tarp. That's something this firefighter had great situational awareness in the two of us that dog would have landed on us. We would not have seen the dog common <hes> we would have broke if I saw on saved as you know what I would have done if I were there. If if I saw the dog I would say to myself the only way you can save. This dog is the catch it yes and that is thysie. I mean that you hear about people who you know. Catch a baby or something from the third floor and usually it's okay and and it's it's it's horrifying to hear about <hes> but I think it's kind of a dicey thing but I don't think I would've thought to grab a tarp and turned it into a net. The dog's name is Victoria and from the pictures and it'll I'll put it on our facebook from the pictures hers. She looks like a Pug. She's a two year old dog. She looks like a a little pug now. I don't know how many stories a pug has to fall to reach terminal velocity but the momentum of that if you were going to try to catch that pug in your arms and hugs small <hes> you'd have to really you'd have to really get lucky. I think it'd be almost like catching a football. You're both about the same size right you know I'd rather catch the Pug than the Labrador he when he when he went downstairs stairs when when he went into the place where the construction was he said there's a dog about to fall. I need a Tarp Newton. They need some of you to help me <hes> and some of the people there were like Oh that that dog isn't gonNA fall dog climb back in the window but the firefighters said let's not take take any chances. Can you please trust my judgment. The dog is GonNa Fall. Someone ran upstairs and banged on the door but the owner wasn't at home and the other neighbors. The other neighbors helped the firefighter. Hold the tarp when you look at the pictures the neighbor who lives directly below <hes> was leaning out of his window thinking that may be the dog could crawl down the side of the building or maybe he could catch the dog right but he couldn't dog hitting the satellite dish probably slowed it a little bit. I mean it's too bad that had hit it but you know doc things turned out okay. I wonder what what was motivating the pug to get the heck out of the apartment. What motivates them to do? I had a dog. My dog buster was a runner. We've rescued buster. When we found bus buster he was starving when he had a chain caller that had grown into his neck? I mean we we saved this dog and we gave him this really comfy life and every chance he could get he would he would jump the fence and run away and I will go get him because he will go to the same place over and over again. It's his nature and I will go go buster. <hes> D do you really do. You got a cushy GIG. Why are you running away? All the time. I had a Siberian Husky. That did the same thing now. That's a purebred dog right but all she could think about was breaking out and going someplace else in running but you know I think she was trying to get your started to Alaska. She was trying to get to Alaska. I think mentally I think she desperately wanted to go where she belonged anyway. Congratulations adulation thanks Bosco who in his off time rescued Corporal Bosco Corporal Bosco. What a great name? I'll post that ups you can check it out for yourself. It is Bob and Sherry Way to go Bob and Sherry nominated for the Tenth Time Hyper Marconi awards from the nationalist broadcaster. Here's Bobbin Sherri. Thank you very much. This is kind of interesting a writer for a website as a bunch of divorce lawyers. What was the craziest reason? Can you ever stumbled upon with a client for getting a divorce and here are some of the answers. A guy divorced his wife because she was allowed Scheuer. That seems now see no. There's there's there's a name for that phobia where you can't stand the sound of people's right yeah. We talked to somebody who is driven mad with that that's right so it's like a medical. There's a name for it and when people have it they can't they can't bear Saito Saito phone. Yeah miss me so phonier me so phony. <hes> a woman had vertigo her husband thought she was possessed and kept trying to do exorcisms on her she had vertigo and and he couldn't take it anymore. So he left her. A guy wouldn't go on his honeymoon because he was worried about his plants dying so the woman took her sister instead and then left him when she got back you know I I can't. I can't blame her. It probably had a better time with her sister. Yeah you're right. It's not a good start. No have you ever met a man that liked his plants more than than than go that on a trail now a woman got kidnapped in Mexico and her husband would not pay the ransom so family paid it and she divorced him right away I would too I think most women would not only would I divorce him but I will call dateline and asked to have him investigative for staging my kidnap. A guy hated his wife or hoarding scrapbooking supplies and she hated him for filling their yard with broken down cars so when their divorce settlement she demanded to get the old cars and he wanted the scrap booking stuff and then they threw it all away that that is what marriages ultimate if you have a bad one. That's what it is i. I hate you so much that I want thin yeah right even though I don't wanted I don't want you to have it. That's that's bad news. I wonder if how you don't know about the cars in the scrapbooking unless <hes> that developed like how long were they married that developed later doesn't say 'cause. Don't you feel like you would have known that Mary was into scrapbooking well. <hes> it depends it could be the tonnage that in increases over time I mean if you marry a guy and you move into his. Let's say his house and he's got a car and blocks in the back that he's working. He's working working on. You know you go now. Cable guys like cars before all of a sudden. There's like three cars in the backyard in a that can get aggravating and all of a sudden a room is being taken over by scrapbooking and that's all she talks about his scrapbooking but I'll he talks about his his old cars well. He's not getting them. 'cause she's taken <hes> a guy thought his wife was secretly gay and love with his sister highly specific there but also Eh. Couldn't you ask this I couldn't you couldn't you take your sister's side and say my wife haven't seen Harry has harry is Harriet making a move on you. A woman left her husband because he was quote to sad ed after his father died. That's doesn't seem as supportive visit could be well. I mean did too sad thing. Go On for too long and did she do anything to try to help them get hell a couple of couldn't agree on what to name their cat. The wife wanted to call the cat snowball and the husband like the name Lily and so they decided to get a divorce. Well you know I almost almost see that snowball snowball come over here. A woman divorced her husband because he refused the yell at her whenever she'd starts screaming at him he just sit there and take it. That's the most interesting one of the lot. Have you ever seen a guy or known a guy that there's nothing that you can do to rile him up. I think that drives women absolutely crazy because in its own way. It's very dismissive. Well no I I can't I mean I. I know these people exist. I've not had one that I've really dealt with that can't be riled. You always found a way to rile them. Oh yeah yeah but I don't think that's any special skill I have. I think they came with riled riled up installed as a factory. I may a guy that can't be riled up. Does he just not care or is that just his <hes> disposition naturally snot his fault he just doesn't you know I mean Kale. Kevin is slowed. It'd be riled and he's not riled by a lot of things but you can definitely rile him on up. I used to be fast. That'd be riled. I think I've slowed down a little bit. It's not it's not fun way to be right but I wonder does that. Make you sick right your net. Your nature is to get riled up over something then you get it out if you're calming yourself if you're saying you know don't get riled up here. Get riled up is are you being eaten alive from the inside in most dangerous thing you can be chronically. Clinically angry that is true. I mean shorten your life. I just read something on it'll short in your life and I said this to you before. You have never met a happy angry person. If you're an angry person you are not happy person of near if you're chronically angry you're miserable. What's what's the song you're playing here? Tammy expect classic the way to go out and sharing nominated for the tenth time for a Marconi Tony Award in the National Association gaster. Here's Bob and Cherry Thurs a park in the eastern part of Paris that every summer is turned over to nudists or naturalist to us as a nudist park and it's right in the city and it's got lots it's beautiful park with trees and benches and greenspace and it is designated for people that prefer to be naturalists in the summer months well in the perverts have found it and Ed French nudists are now complaining that perverts are hiding in the bushes and ruining everything. It's hard for me to believe that the perverts were unaware of it up until now. How long has this been going on? I mean are you kidding me. In the center of a major city there naked people sitting around on park benches and nobody is going through their checking it up. Are you stopped at the beginning of the park and you and if you have closed on you're not allowed to go through or they do it. I think you're allowed to go through. Here's okay so here's to answer your question. Here was my understanding from the news stories that I've read <hes> France is one of the world's leading destinations for nudists. There's just a lot of opportunities opportunities and a lot of openness and understanding filthy French and there's sort of you know kind of a hey you know we're new to steer calmed down. There are four like almost five years to come to this park every year. I guess I don't know very few people complain to the police because they said what can the pulley. It's very French. What can be done? We deal with that ourselves. Tell them we'll be men. Women will be women but apparently there have been so many more perverts hiding in the bushes that now the new disarm complaining. I did the pervert rate pickup all of a sudden the Inter they've always been with us with the Internet would yeah no here's you'd think that they would be tamped down with the Internet now. Here's why I think the rate of perversion has picked up in this instance because let's say you're a pervert you you don't necessarily know where all the opportunities to be. Pervert are and then the Internet comes along and now news feeds pick up. Oh this park in eastern part of parents say is filled with with naturalists. You're a pervert from another part of France or whatever and you're like wow who knew right and you get on the train and you go yeah I could see that they may never know. Let's say they lived in. I don't know Leon and they might not have known yeah. Oh yeah the thing is the idea that they're hiding in Bush's. Though <hes> you can just walk through it. It sounds like right. I guess you'd be hiding with your camera and they're hiding for other reasons as well. She's yeah can you just use your imagination now and also because apparently some of them they don't WanNa just openly look at you. The Thrill is looking at you and you surreptitiously yeah. It's voyeurism thing see before the Internet Bob. I'm thinking that pervert stuff was very word of mouth. Yeah that's right or was like <hes> free range perverts you just got lucky just stumbled across the a walking down the street a look. There's on open window over there. You go check that right I mean where would you go to see anything. It's not like it's happening everywhere. Would you not love to go to this park and see what it feels like to be completely free for an ben to nude beaches as I've been to topless beach your topless beach thing but did you stroll through now. I'm not gonNA play Frisbee because you know volleyball. I think I need a sports bra for that. Just Jesse uh-huh okay I mean I don't know how to play chess but right. It's a it's a low impact sport. Hey with your looks. You're GonNa Confuse the opponent. I Q okay I get to any of nudist sports. You know jumping. Here's the perfect Vic nudist sport. Have you ever been to a resort where they have out by the pool giant chess pieces. Oh yeah is that not perfect for a nudist resort well. I've never played softball but that seems like a good game. You can now folks figure. We've been nominated as the radio show in America isn't that you know for all of your travel and PM magazine everything. You didn't know that this no I didn't. I've been to Paris in the summer. Almost always in the summer had no idea that was like a you're like a big media guide and you didn't know so what is a humble pervert from the suburbs while the next time I go. I'm getting a beret mask and a camera head right it over there. You know it's really weird to be with a woman who goes topless at a topless beach. What's weird? I don't know I mean it's just that's that aren't all the other women not all but there are some. It's just but you know the guys are in bathing suits. It's not a nude beach but it's a topless beach and the woman that you're with is going topless but that is that is it's. I'm just saying as an American guy that takes a little bit of getting used do now. You've seen them already. Are you thinking because other men are going to look yes of course no because the sharks are gonNA come up. Are you looking at other topless gumby horse nut. I have no interest that sort the thing it all women always know if you're looking at they always know you could be a quarter mile away down the beach. A woman will turn turnover and that's how the perverts the bush. That's why they're in the bushes will it. Thank you very much it is it is interesting that I think you're right. If there is a an uptick Dick in inappropriate people going to this particular park it's probably because now they know researched it or they're in some perv you know website and at this pops up right they have alerts on their turnout alerts Burg alerts every Monday Wednesday Friday we drop new episodes of our offaire podcast Bobby Sherry podcast this week featuring our lady of the haunted hallway get it on our website or instantly has dealt with the free fobbing cherry so I want you to tell me and I want you to listen very carefully to the information. I'm GonNa give you you tell me whether or not Justin Bieber is in cahoots with this company that he's getting paid four tweeting about this company okay. I didn't even realize that this product was gone. Popsicles the the company popsicle it is a company popsicles. Double POPs are apparently apparently coming back. Thanks the Justin Bieber back in May Justin tweeted quote. We just realized we can't find double stick popsicles. This is crazy at popsicle. We need those back unquote and then yesterday popsicle Michael tweeted quote hey just at hey at Justin Bieber. You asked where the double pops where you better believe. We made a special batch just for you. They're coming in hot cold. Actually Oh what a bunch of corny writing that is but just an isn't the only one they're giving them to popsicle said that they're gonna go ahead and make them available again for everybody if they can get a hundred thousand was in re tweets by Tuesday last time we check they hit about forty four thousand is that is he being paid to do that. I dig no. They were gone because I went looking for them. I haven't had them in so many years. I didn't know they were why would they go. I I mean I believe I I <hes> because he used to be able to believe in half and you could share that was part of the fun I mean and the second hat will well. You could share them but I mean be better. If you eight yourself because the second one would be a little softer at the top getting a glimpse at you of course you share that they're they're not very much. My friend can combine zone popsicle because this way like if the last two were per if you've got the last two popsicles one is right in one is purple ripple <hes> true France split them and you get half red and half purple so that you're not stuck eating. I only remember Eilly member popsicles that were solid colors now. These are solid halls. I'm saying there the last two popsicles in the box are red head and purple. Nobody wants purple so a good friend. We break him. In half you get half red and half purple and I get half red and half brother had the whole purple one who are you you know get the doll you can also they can. Oh please answer is he. Is he getting paid for this. I don't think so I think some very very savvy person at popsicle sawn opportunity here and they jumped on it if Bieber here's why I don't think Bieber's getting paid for if be getting paid for it there would have been more than one post. This was a one off tweet on his part about root beer popsicles love them. You love those love unusual usual hard to find. I Never Amtrak Dot. We gotTA D._M.. From one of our listeners when we talked about this a long time ago and she said I don't think you could buy them outside of like Pennsylvania. I don't think so either I think they were really I mean as local as a kid that was kind of exotic to get a root beer popsicle in the summertime. I think if you grew up in Kansas Nebraska you never laid eyes on a root beer. Pop sick thick so really well. I mean we'll find the M._S. are gives talkback message unless now if you did eat them creek cream cycle the non refreshing crimson was a grownup popsicle. It wasn't good wasn't made you grammy. There is something about it. That was yeah I guess they did. Why did they like it because adulthood is just so sad an awful yeah? I can't add anything increase. Could there be Bob and Sherry show nominated is the best radio show getting you going positive state of mind as you hit your work that all right lookout sad lonely because you're under though I'll agree with you. Maybe maybe Bieber didn't have anything listen. They knew Bob and Sherry twenty four seven Bob and Sherry Dot com every year. You've probably seen them on T._v.. I think P._B._S.. Carries them maybe C._B._S.. But I think it's probably P._B._S.. It's the Kennedy Center Honors and <hes> just to give you <hes> to shake your recollection election. You probably remember seeing a president. I remember Obama up in the box. Applauding aretha Franklin Getting Kennedy Center honors with let me see who was at Carole King and I forget who else anyway it's generally enderle comedians singers great classical music performers is sometimes actors and actresses people who had been doing it for a while. This is not something that you know you get a couple of hits and you're going to get a Kennedy entity center honor. It's it's for longevity as much as anything at in in addition to greatness so they've announced the four of the people who are going to be getting Kennedy Center honors this year. I guess the only really have a handful <hes> every year. It's it's not a large group and so it's a an actress a singer a T._b.. Show is getting it and a band. The actress is Sally Field. You liked hope. She doesn't say that you like clean. You really like me Sally Field. She's terrific. Linda Ronstadt what a absolutely fantastic singer sesame street who who could deny that great show and the band is the spanned do concern I go anymore. I know it's a wedding song now as much anything that you something about this song is just so happy they will just I wonder through this recital song for adult tapped last year or is that right and this was. Let's listen to the beat on this. This was a lot of Fast Catholic and has set your birth though as so I think those poor more than four performs with floor areas of performance instead the deserving. How could you argue? I went to sesame street once it was interesting where they were. They were the tape it in New York City. I've read that they are. They have very careful airfoil restrictions zip about what the even not just casual visitors but what can be done or not gone on the set of Sesame Street. It's funny. I forget the exact street that it's on where they do the the shooting but it's in a like a Brownstone House in Manhattan and you're walking by. You wouldn't know that that's where it's being shot but if you're really observant you look up and there's a small window of paned glass ass that has big burden it or one of the characters stained glass. Yes thing I'm sorry stained glass and otherwise you would not know right so you go in there and you're exactly right. They have all these rules. They're very sweet people. This was longtime ago but they let us shoot the set an and shoot a little bit of what's going on and I got to interview grout of which WHO's the grumpy would <hes> grouch. I I got to interview Oscar the grudge that was very cool and then there's a room in the back where they hang the puppets so that there <hes> you know just not thrown on the ground and <hes> snuffle office was hanging up there and that's a big big costume and and I looked at it and they came one of the people who is our guide came over and said we would appreciate it if you don't shoot that no pictures children are never allowed right because a child you know if a child saw that creature just you know literally hanging up you you know would crush them so but they're very sweet people very nice. I can't remember watching sesame street as a kid and I must have been the first wave of. I don't know when it came out but I must have been in the first wave of kids that watch sesame street and just oh speaking on the edge of my seat when the count would come in. I don't know why the particular his wasn't scary but you knew he was supposed to be scared and there was there was there's always going to be a big buildup payoff with the count and I can remember vividly just leaning all right man. Now playtime is over that count is here so caught up in. There's something about the Dracula Dracula Yeah even though that's you know he's he's he's on sesame street but there's something especially with women about the Dracula character the persona on the other thing that I can remember waiting you you know you the beginning of the show there this theme song and everything and then you would find out which letter today is brought to you and I used to be like come on. Let's let it be ass. Never s never never hear what exactly well those are some very talented people they deserve it. It's Bob and Sherry late again. Bob And Sherry nominated for the tenth time for a Marconi awards on the National Association Association of Broadcasters Yours Bob Jerry is crushed out on the couch couple nights ago flipping channels waiting for Kevin to get home and I landed on horrible bosses which if you've never seen it is absolutely hysterical. Jennifer Aniston plays plays this foul mouth centers tores predatory dentist who's constantly hitting on her hygienist and as tear cigar who's a guy who's like terrible to the patience while they're under Kevin Spacey. He is in this movie case. You've forgotten Oh yeah that's right but I managed to time my channel flip to a scene featuring a person in a walk on part. I'd forgotten she was Senate. Meghan markle. Please a Fedex delivery driver. No she bosseaux Oh yes she does as Xiang. It's a it's literally like a minute and I think it's Jason <hes> seductress character character is hitting honor. <hes> your to your too hot to be a fedex driver you a model or human actress just the Fedex driver and she's got on the Blue Fedex uniform and the blue cap and she's of course gorgeous us and I had forgotten that she had that tiny little bit of a part in that movie you look at her and I don't know I guess maybe it's hindsight because I know how her life panned out but even in that little glimpse that tiny brief part in that movie there is something about her that is special. She must have been a teenager when she got that right out of college right Outta College to Northwest alongs dogs that movie bit out could not ten years two thousand oaks will not quite what's going on here. This one was hidden camera shows. What do you mean what I mean is like your way too cute to be just a Fedex grow? You gotta be like a model or actress or something right what happens when I opened up one of these boxes. Someone's going to jump out by the peanuts and I forgot to Max. You're looking at the clip just now isn't there something about her. That comes through duck green weird way it under my favorite moment in that movie maybe partially because we've had him on the show is when <hes> Jason Bateman and <hes> a couple of the other guys the guy who works as the dental hygienist who what does that Charlie Day right another guy they go to <hes> case the house where they're going to do something to a horrible boss but they they are are about to get caught so they take off and they squeal out and Jason Bateman car and the police chase him down and they're brought in and they're interrogated <hes> by Ron White the comedian Ron White who's perfect as a cop yeah that was gracious perfect and he says the Jason Bateman so you go in <hes> pretty fast in a residential area. Why are we going so fast? What were you running from wasn't running from anything? Why are you going so fast as applause restrict racing and then there's another puss run wet says in a Prius is it's perfect he's? I don't know why he's is not used Ron Wyden if you if you don't who I'm talking about. He was on that <hes> tour of Country Comedians that was on a few years ago they were like three or floor the blue collar yeah. That's right that's right. I know why not use more in the movies. Abe's he's a he's good at it. The thing about horrible bosses like I've never had a boss like the character Jennifer Aniston place but boy have we had a boss like the one Kevin Spacey Place All Refresh Your Memory Kevin Spacey is the kind of boss who makes all sorts of promises takes credit takes all the credit himself for everything that's done and basically runs an atmosphere of such unpredictable fear intention and because of his crazy volatile temper right everything we've worked with that everything <hes> surrounds him yeah. It's all about him about him. It's this if you're not delivering to me. Four me yeah then you need to go. It's the him show order so you if you watch that again beyond the lookout for that Meghan markle scene and see if you don't agree. There's something about her. They wouldn't have that. was you know as you said what eight years ago they wouldn't have hired her. She didn't have some Hollywood is crawling with beautiful people and in some stick out but there's something about her. You're like is this because I know or is this because there is something about this. I had no did you.

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What to Do When Youre Chronically Underpaid | Thats A Good Question

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What to Do When Youre Chronically Underpaid | Thats A Good Question

"Welcome to women amplifies new segment. That's a good question for we feature real listeners. And help them solve a problem. They're facing at work or in life. Hello everyone i'm celeste. Headley your host before we dive in. I wanted to let you know that. Registration is still open for the virtual texas pennsylvania and massachusettes conferences. for women they are on october second november tenth and december second. We have all star lineups. And i'm not kidding. It includes regina king. Malala khloe zhao laverne cox glenn close selma blair so many others. You can actually see the entire lineup at conferences. Women dot org and you can register there as well now. Let's get started with this first. Episode of that's a good question on women amplified talking about salary in the workplace is taboo. But it happens. So what do you do when you find out. You are chronically underpaid compared to your colleagues were doing the same job with the same level of experience in just a minute. We'll talk through this exact scenario to help we real woman from our community figure out her next steps in addition to our listeners guests. We'll be joined by expert kiana. Pierre-louis a senior law lecturer. At bentley university. Kiana is going to share her experiences and her expertise about having difficult conversations with hr and the legal issues of discussing salary plus some tips for negotiating equal pay. So let's get started young so you wrote to us about your pay. Explain what your question is sure. So i am a regulatory affairs professional for a large biomedical company. I was in a step above and entry level role at my current company for about three and a half years. During which time i received a relief stellar reviews but very moderate cost of living increases. And so i was looking opportunities to develop myself so i ended up taking a ladder. A move to a within the same company and it didn't and out like i expected it was actually significantly more responsibility and significantly more challenging which was welcomed in many ways but i asked several months after being in this new challenging role. I asked to have a discussion about the next level. And how can i. How can i perform at that. Next level what kind of experiences and training during to pursue and. I was told that i was already performing at that next level so i was promoted which i was excited about. But when i received the promotion it came with a percentage increase based on hr policy. And i had a conversation in which i asked if there was a band salary band for the role. I presented data from glass door. That showed the average salary for that role for the area. And i also provided there's a salary report that's published annually from a respected professional organization in my field that i presented that as well and highlighted all my qualifications and my master's degree in and everything like that and it kind of really validated. The salary that was asking for which was about nine to ten grants more than what i was offered. And i understood that people with similar qualifications and experience had been given what i was asking for so i was really surprised that it was met with a lot of resistance to being compensated at the level that i asked for even having provided all of that data and met at the table with a respectful conversation to request it essentially so i ended up taking what i was offered because that seemed to be. What my option. What and it is lower took significantly lower than colleagues with similar experience an same role. So now i'm trying to figure out. Do i wait for an annual review to see if i'm brought up to an equal and equal pay is my only choice to receive competing offer and to kind of push the hand towards equal pay or is it really time to leave and as the writing on the wall. You know there's a lot of of lip service that's being done about valuing employees when push comes to shove that might not necessarily be the case. Well if your pay is not equivalent to other people in your similar position. It's the question of whether they value some employees more than others isn't it. Yeah i think so too. And i think that was something else that i struggled with kind of personally mentally and emotionally. Because there's a lot of a lot of talk about how much we value and you're one of our top employees and we want to continue to develop you and i'll listen that's really great but like you said if you're not willing to pay me equally than than obviously that can't be true. So how many performance reviews are we talking about when you talk about getting great performance reviews. How many have there been. I had three in the previous role. And then i'm coming up on a year in the current role. But i do check in quarterly and i do solicit feedback appropriately with my supervisor to ensure that i'm performing at the level that is expected to me. It sounds like i've been exceeding it the entire time that i've been at the company in a cost of living raises. What like two percent two and a half yes. One to two percent so it was very little movement in the four years that well the three and a half years that was in the previous role it was a very small increase and when also assumes everybody else is getting that as well. So it's not lessening the gap between you and others in the same position will it turns out. That's not actually correct. And i kind of discovered that one i was having conversations with colleagues about it because i like i said i had done my research. I determined what. I kind of expected to receive this next level and i was told that i was valued and appreciated and all of that so i didn't think to ask if the annual increases that i was perceiving was comparable to other people and it sounds like it may not have been it. Sounds like perhaps there was a bucket of money to be allocated that that was maybe at the discretion of managers to allocate different people. But no it sounds like what i experienced was not typical compared to colleagues. So you spoke to your direct supervisor or did you go to. Hr i want to direct supervisor and then my direct supervisor pulled in their director. And so i had a conversation with the both of them as well and they expressed no negative or critical feedback about your performance. That's correct and i did say that if we felt that i wasn't performing at at equal levels you know i would like to know and i would like to have that conversation and figure out what i could work on. A word could do differently. So i know i have that rapport with them and i did ask to have a conversation. If that was the case. So other than the pay inequity. What do you like about your job. That's a tough question. I really like the colleagues within the function within my own function. And then there's some colleagues with whom i have really great working relationships and other functions but other than attic can be really tough to find things that i honestly like. It's very challenging. I think i'm the fifth person in the same in four years and there's like some personalities on cross functional teams that are really challenging to work quits. So i think that's a question. I've been asking myself even if i were being compensated. You know at the level that i ask for what do i like about it. Yeah it's a great question and the other question of course is how difficult would it be for you to find a different position. Yes and that's something. I've been considering while. I think unfortunately in the role that i had before like i said it was a step above entry level and i was kind of a war course so i was happy to work a lot of extra hours and do as much as i possibly could but i didn't get certain experiences that i really should in my fields. And that would help me at this next level. So i think that's been the challenge of getting my foot in the door at other companies at the next level because they look for that experience understandably and i'm very keeble of it and i have academic experience but they're looking for the number of submissions eh. Done as a benchmark of your success in that profession in you know this because you have applied elsewhere. How do you know that other companies would not feel you're qualified. it's tough 'cause. I'm not a jumper and i'm not great at kind of tooting my own horn. I'm really great at supporting and uplifting other colleagues but when it comes to myself. I'm just really focused. On what i'm doing so i have a hard time to the honest talking myself. Up for these other roles. I have applied for a few other places at the current level that i'm at and i did receive feedback that they are looking for somebody with submission experience that i don't have and i understood that so that was really the only feedback that i received so far from the jobs to which i applied. Are you in your current role doing that. Are you experience in that area that you need. No not yet. My won't have that until next spring. Which is why. I'm kind of trying to figure out what my plan and timelines should be and this is the field where you wanna work. Guess so when you're weighing this in thinking about this yourself it sounds to me like there's some competing things going on here because number one you have a job. That's not actually developing you in a timely manner like you're not getting experience and training quickly or even in a what i would think would be rational pace so there's that issue there's the issue of the pay obviously but there's also the issue that it doesn't sound like you enjoy the job very much other than some of your colleagues it's hard panned out a little differently than how it was initially promised. There's less support than i expected. And i'm kind of an island which is okay. But it was kind of positioned as oh. This will be an opportunity for you to take one or two developmental projects that are going to be extremely challenging and involved and it ended up being significantly more than two so it ended up really being the point person for an entire product line and everything is accelerated. And there's no priorities and it's very challenging. So i think that kind of compounded were. I'm getting different experience but then not experience that's going to enable me to grow like you said so if they gave you your salary request if they approved your salary request tomorrow would you still be weighing whether or not. You should stay. I think you're right. I think on some level i would be. I think had it been addressed during that conversation. That i had previously. I think i would've taken it and been happy. But i think how that kinda was handled and what that communicates about actual action to poor retained. What they say are valued employees. It makes me question linked. How invested should i be in this role on and should i. Maybe i shouldn't be working late nights. And maybe i shouldn't be taking on these extra things or doing things outside my lane and perhaps i really should continue to have the door open look elsewhere. So how confident are you that when you go into the next negotiation whether it be for the raise in pay that you want from your current employer or let's say you do move on and you need to negotiate your initial salary. How confident are you that you can brag about yourself enough and get the kind of salary number that you need. I've been working on it. And i think my approaches to present data so i think i can certainly come up. Why some data and statistics for the things that i worked on and the challenges that overcome and i can point to a number of colleagues of equal or up and coming levels that i've encouraged nurtured and tried to mentor and support. So i think i could certainly provide a case for it is challenging having already done that and been told no. Yeah so it's something. I just continue to try and build myself up to do in my head but i don't know how successful i will be a. Have you spoken with any of the other colleagues at your workplace. Who are earning more than you. For essentially the same work. I have i have they incur a not all but if you select people and it was very much the consensus that what i was asking for was appropriate and actually modest in comparison to what i would be paid if i were to get a job somewhere else and it was actually under what other people had been brought in at the same level. So the consensus was that. I think there's a lot of surprise that i was told no. And that's what i was asking for was reasonable and equal and should have been a slam dunk to retain and bring stability continuing stability to the role that a man. What is your idea on. Why if it's the rational thing to do if it's the right thing to do why do you think they turn down your salary increase. I can really only go by. What i i was told. Which was there was an hr policy. That ten percent was the max increase. And that was what i was offered. And that was what i ended up taking. I don't know that there was until i disclosed it. And i like. I said i had a really candid conversation. So i don't know that. There was no awareness of what i have been making before i came out and said it and said this is what i was brought into the company and in the three and a half years that i was in the previous role. This is what. I was brought up to sime concerns. That wallet appreciate the ten percent increase. I understand that's a policy. Change my concern is that you know if you haven't increases over your time at the company that you're gonna just perpetually lower so i think the. Hr policy was the rationale. I was given and also that. Hr was only looking at the time. That i was in my current role. And i did indicate that from an employee standpoint. That's not what you're considering if you've been at the same company for over four years that's the timeframe that you're looking at so these were separate meetings meeting with your director and your directors. Supervisor was one meeting and there were other meetings with hr right. I didn't actually meet with. Hr at the point. That i was at a. It seemed like i didn't really have an option and that was the best What i was offered was what i was going to get and i always welcome to talk to. Hr but considering stance that had been communicated my impression i laughed at meeting was just to sign. Sign the agreement. And take it. Because i already like. I said i had already been told that. I had already been performing at that role since i took the job. And that just wanted to at that point be paid a little bit more even for the job that i was already doing. So i didn't talk to hr directly but i provided all the data analysis rationale that to my own supervisor than the director to support the the position a request. Not this my last question. I promise but i want you to imagine somebody either at this job or another job that you think of as being really sort of assertive and smart and ambitious and imagine what they would do it in this position. Would that person do right now. I have seen that and they generally leave. I've seen that and that's why we've had a lot of turnover because if you're somebody that isn't ambitious and you're not receiving the experience that you're looking for you're not receiving the development opportunities that you're advocating for. You're not seeing salary increases that you expect based on the field that we work in that people seem to leave and i communicated that. I don't think that that's the culture that we're trying to create at the company that we want to retain into genita- develop talent especially when you have people that are willing to move across divisions support for product lines different functions. Those are people that develop tribal knowledge. That's really valuable. We should be looking to continue to develop these people especially when they're highly motivated and interested in doing so. Is it necessary for me to obtain a competing offer in order to to be compensated fairly my current role or is time to leave. Like should i wait. Should i wait to see if things are adjusted during my next performance review and then make a decision like i said. i'm not a job jumper. I liked to relief finish projects and kind of follow the campfire rule. Frank of leaving things better than what you found them so essentially i'm just trying to figure out what my path forward should be in. What the time line should be for that. One of the ways that i sort of help people problem solve is by letting them answer the questions themselves and i feel like the questions are kind of leading you in a direction that you for. Some reason are not ready to take in other words. You're asking for help in in how to get your salary increase. But it doesn't sound like that even with the salary. Increase your invested at this point. I think that's a fair question to ask. I am feeling myself having some challenges. With starting to disengage. But that really is stuff that started after had all those conversations than they didn't go well so that's been very recent that i've started to thank the media just for my own self that i really disengage because i'm obviously not valued like they say that i am but i think that's a fair point. You're listening to women amplifies new segment. That's a good question. Real people action based problem solving expert advice. If you enjoy this podcast share it with other people. That's how we can spread the news to as many people as possible. Who might get some use from this. Great advice also remember that. Registration is now open for the virtual texas pennsylvania and massachusettes conferences. For women are on october second november tenth and december second you can see the full lineup of speakers and register at conferences for women dot org. Now let's get back to our conversation so my suspicion i mean number one. You have described people that you admire and think of as strong and ambitious. You say they would leave. You obviously believe the problems go further than salary. But i wonder if you are falling into a the gender trap of underselling yourself when you apply for other jobs. Yeah i agree and my husband. And i talk about it at home. Hell apply for a job if he meets sixty percent of qualifications. And i'm looking at the same list and saying oh. I only meet eighty-five. I'm not qualified for that. The i absolutely agree. I think that's a really tough thing to shake. I think especially as a millennial as well we graduated college. And that was the with the great recession and you were just grateful to have a job so i think that's also a pervasive attitude that i'm trying to break. Don't like her gratitude for a job that got your foot in the door and the industry keep you underpaid from role that you're currently in do you think it's possible that you are letting those subconscious doubts. Are you allowing those to get in the way i think to some degree. Yes i think. Also my gratitude. I'm just a person. That's really grateful tab opportunity to like. I was grateful. Get my foot in the door in this company. And i think that that kind of helps me keep myself where i is being grateful for what you're given and being hesitant to ask for more. It was a big deal for me to come to the table. And say you know this is actually my salary expectation and this is why this is everything that supports it. Those are hard. conversations. Remain calm but i felt like they were very valid and that i was clear and deserving of equal pay. I think that no one would blame me if i left. I think that it would not be good for the role and stability of the product line. But i don't think anyone would be surprised or blame me if i laughed. Yes so you're taking on all this emotional weight on behalf of this employer who is not returning the favor you're worried about the stability of the product line win that really should be your managers worrying about that gear worrying about high turnover. You're worrying about how loyal you will appear when it doesn't sound like your employers are spending any time worrying about those things at all. Yeah and that's where. I am looking further opportunities and then you kind of have to divest yourself right from working extra hours and trying to be very successful in your current role. You really have to shift gears and say okay. No this extra time per week. I'm gonna vote to myself and to doing what i need to do to prepare to interview at other places and then getting my resume out there. So that's our transition to make when you've been so invested in succeeding in your current role. Yeah although you have been really really invested in helping the company succeed in. Maybe it's time to help to invest in yourself and if you're gonna take time maybe this is time to get some online training in other things to get some credentials and certificates. But maybe you need to improve your cv. And maybe it's time to learn how to go into those interviews prepared to say. I can do this role i have made at least sixty percent of the qualifications. And i'm gonna rock your world in this position. I agree it's a little tough. Because i'm kind of maxed out. I do a master's degree in the field. And i do of a professional certification. I want you to listen to yourself. I know i want you to listen to yourself because you're sitting here telling me i'm extraordinarily well qualified but earlier you were saying. I'm not qualified for these other jobs. I mean you hear yourself saying that. I know it's true. It's that one piece of experience. It's that one piece of practical experience will come on. No one's true with my husband. And i appreciate it so much. Yeah he's like no. It doesn't matter who cares. You can do it and i'm like i know i can do it but i haven't done it but that's the thing is i think i just need to get my foot in the door somewhere else and i can absolutely perform and perform. Well it's just like you said yeah. I need to figure out how to talk myself up. Like i'm able to do and routinely do for other people nope you do not need another entry level job. You are years and years past entry level. You don't need a foot in the door. You need someone to when you make a commitment to a job. They're not doing you a favor year. Rain wake i said i think shaking that mindset of being grateful just to have a job i was also brought up in a household where someone who said you know. Be worth what they pay you. And i think those are some things to work on shake for sure. Yeah i mean. I think you have enough experience and training and education and if your current job can't see that maybe it's not about changing you. Maybe that's the solution is that it's time to leave a maybe leaving. It'll be kind of the reset. That i need to feel like i'm being compensated at the level that i'm performing and also then lake really have that concrete understanding and belief in myself. Don't just quietly do it in the background but actually do it and be able to say that. Yeah that's the level that i perform. Yeah i mean even kicking. But i have for for years. And it's that you'd be somewhere where it's appreciated. I would never tell anybody. Advise someone to leave their job. But that's what you're telling me. And that's the hard thing. There's a lot of verbal communication that i'm so appreciated and valued and things like that and there always has been which is nice but when it comes down to it you want to debate equally. Yeah you deserve to be payday quickly. And it's not. You don't know that you're not being paid equally because of their transparency and accountability. You know because you had to do detective work on top of all the other stuff. You're doing yes and did communicate to my boss that i just wanna be breathed clear that that was the ask. The ask was for equal pay. And that that was what was declined. And so there's a very clear understanding that. That's what i was asking you to repeat back what you just said to me. Yeah you ask for equal pay guests directly and was clear that that was the ask equal pay. Hr said the. What i asked for was too high. Which can't be true. If you've made other people that it was a no-brainer slam dunk. Could i think. I think the people that i talk to all expected it to be a no brainer decision. Yeah and why would they expect that because of who i am and how perform and the role in the challenges associated. Because what you're asking for should not even be up for debate. now's of completely valid. Ask though is backed by multiple references when you say because of who i am. That's still part of this mentality that you earn it. It's not about what you earn. You can earn other things but this is just equal pay. Yeah it's hard. It's really shaking confidence. I'm trying not to feel like. I don't deserve it and that's why i can can get it. This is the crux of it. This feeling that your success is something you have to earn and that is not true. That is not true. Your accomplishments you could earn awards you can earn but equal pay. You get that. that's you're right. It's tough to figure out what to do next. It's been an analysis process for me on this. Yeah i can imagine that so. Let's say that you get advice. That is uncomfortable for you. Are you ready to follow either. My advice or more specifically key honest advice. Are you at ready to take that step. i think i'm definitely receptive to hearing. I'm not afraid of hard conversations. And tough advice. I do think it's helpful even hear it from different people like outside parties like yourself with expertise. So yeah i think. I'm at a place where i really need to figure out what i'm going to do if i do. Weight wouldn't appropriate timeframe. Should be. But i don't want to wait forever and i have communicated that to my supervisor that i didn't want to wait forever so you just heard from our listener. Who brought us a very good question. Indeed we walked through challenge. You heard the facts. What should she do. It's time to ask that. Pay raise equal pay in another way or is it time for her to leave. I help others. Problem solved by letting them answer the questions themselves questions that ultimately helped lead them in the direction of what to do and it sounds like she's leaning towards leaving but perhaps that will change after we have the chance to talk with kiana pierre-louis a senior law lecturer at bentley university. Kion is here. Offer some perspective from her own experiences as well as share her expertise around having difficult conversations with hr also the legal issues of discussing salary and some tips for negotiating equal pay. So let's get back to our conversation and find out what advice kiana has for our guest. So she's in this position where She's trying to figure out whether it's time to learn how to ask for the pay raise in another way or it's time to leave. What goes into these kind of decisions. What do you recommend that people consider when they're facing this kind of question well ca question so it sounds like the right things first of all researching like when you feel you know you get into a position you realize that didn't tell you everything you're doing a lot more in. You have a feeling that the pay may not be equal. Doing your homework is the best first of all and also going around and talking to people which did. Because i think well. I don't know if we know this but pay secrecy. Policies are illegal or they're not okay under the national labor relations act whereas if your organization said you can't go around and talk to people if you do you're gonna get fired or demoted or anything like that. That's pretty much. not okay. You can bring that to the national labor relations born because that goes against freedom of speech. Site goes against concerted. Effort doesn't sound like they did. That would just excellent when you were able to get the data from people you work with but also hoping outside sources we should not always helpful because with equal pay act it has to be so similar so similar in what you do and all that but you can gather enough data eldest saying that. I'm not sure it was done but is also important is really figuring out what you think you want so they come back with the resounding no that you receive. Why am i going to do. I o k with working this hard this much without getting some sort of increase. Do i think that they are actually paying my value. So this kind of goes into that value driven thing like what are your goals. What do you wanna do. Are you okay with doing that. Are you just going to do. You want to stick it out a year so really take some planning on. If it's been no what are you going to do. Are you six months a year. Are you going to say forget it. I tried so all of that goes into it. I think about half of it. But i don't know not expecting the our now stuck at the second half now. What am i going to do. Thank you for rallied. Eating that i did the correct thing in doing my research talking to people that having candid conversations. I really appreciate that. I have been asking myself. Am i okay with this. And it is a a no. The challenges and the frustrations are significant to not be paid equally for experiencing mom. You're correct. I'm stuck at that second. Half of what am i going to do. And what's the timeline. In which i'm gonna do it so first of all. Let me tell you this. This is not even legal. What i've been in the situation. Ben in this exact situation and my resounding was kind of what anyone does maybe just work harder and see if they see that maybe pay more and that was a no i was also and in my situation they gave me half of my pay equity and i was getting while under what i should have been doing more than anybody in my department. Getting paid one so he gave me half and then i had to figure out Am i okay with this and it was over sounding now so i set out a plan. I gave myself a year. And i always tell anybody this i would never suggest because i don't know people's we're out finances your family situation your personal situations i would not say you will write it in and say out right so take some planning. You know that may take some saving that takes you looking around maybe at a comparable job or maybe not even comparable job if you don't like this job but it takes some planning so i think your next step is. How long willing to do this. Star planning start saving if you can start looking building your portfolio talking to other people really building that network network network around this areas important and then if it's a no and you can go back to them and say all right again. I've done the data. I'm looking at this and you're really paying me less in it's not equal and i don't think it's right. I'm going to ask again. Are you going to adjust my pay. And if it's no then you give your resignation and that is hard. I'm not saying this that it's easy but that is what i would recommend if it's a no so the other thing kiana she's applying for other jobs but there's one specific piece of practical experience that she feels is holding her back from getting a job in the field and i wonder what your response is to that. I pointed out to her. That women are way more likely to not apply for jobs. Saying i'm not qualified unless they meet every single qualifcation that's listed whereas men are like i can do that. What do you think the now is women constantly are like. I don't take off every last one of them. If i don't work ten times harder not going to apply whereas men do not do that. They will show the strengths and other areas and maybe sometimes site that day have a weakness sometimes. Don't even do that. But basically did they have a weakness and say. But i can do this and i can learn if it is one practical area. Nobody and i've been on both ends of applying for jobs in reading applications. I never received an application where everybody's ticked off. But can i tell you. The carolinas you will read may believe specially the males that i can do this. I am an acid for you and that's how you have to come across. It is up to you if you really feel like it depends if it's recommended yunan. Some job applications. They say it's recommended or preferred. You can sometimes site that flow and do it in a way that it's not actually buy you can sign the law and then just say but i have this this this you how the experience you have to put that in your mind and take away everything that you may not think you can have. You can do the job especially if you're doing it now for not the pay that you deserve you can do it or you can learn it and you will probably put in that work to learn it because women we also feel like we have to work harder to show our to show that we deserve this pay so i would just go forward. I would not a friend of mine said to me once. What's the worst that can happen. When you apply for a job you get it now. Will you know that right. That's the worse. So i would. Just apply are their chips. You can give not just to our guests but also to anyone in this position for getting equal pay period. Whether it's in the job that she's currently in or as she goes to take a new job how is she best. Set up to get the same pay as everyone else in that position. Excellent question negotiations okay again. Women don't tend to negotiate which is why again women get paid. Eighty two cents for every dollar men and the united states gap of eighteen percent just not always negotiating feeling excited and happy that they received a job. No you go in with your number your base number always three knock you meaning your top okay top one grasping for what i want. Your middle is probably along the line of would you want in that bottom is you will take nothing less but what that says. This is the hard part you have to be willing to say. No thank you okay. And that could be hard specifically. You're not working or in a situation where you want. You know what. I mean if you want out you're like i just wanna find a job and get out but you can't let yourself to get into that. No you're worth in regardless of. They feel like you're missing a piece you know you're worth than you know what you're going to bring to any institution in you have to keep that in mind and be okay with saying no because i know i've done my research and i know that either you as an organization have paid this amount for this or i know that other organizations that are comparable have paid this amount for their so. This is my bottom line because they're always going to give you a number and hope you say that they have legal room within that number so first of all negotiation but again do your homework. You know what i mean. No they're likely paying which right now positions tend to give you a range and they've probably mean that range so look the rain job. Go do your homework and then do your three numbers. Don't go anything. Lower that base number that you have but you have to be willing to negotiate and be willing to say. I know what i deserve. Are there legal repercussions for asking for equal. Pay another words. Are there boxes. That one needs to check if one plans to make it a legal argument. Yeah excellent so a couple of non. The employees potential please side so the one thing you should know negotiating salary does not give them a right to reject the offer that they make usually make you an offer right and then they say this is the salary range or this. Is the salary giving you at that point. You know that they're giving you the job but if you say no. Can we negotiate. They cannot pull it based on that. And if they do that is employment discrimination or something is going on. You can go back at that. So the only thing i would say is on that may be us saying no but they reject you at that point if you are like no. I don't like the salary and you're willing to negotiate. They can't just sit on. That will and then negotiate and you were rejecting you know. They have to say this bottom line and if you rejected. That's fun so that's i emma sacramento equal pay law right. There are some issues with equal. Pay this was anything with the law. Is one just figuring out visit fall. That box right. Do you even find that is. It is so particular on similar job in similar industry and similar organization but even when it's similar organizations they're looking nap similar organizations within probably the same state our area. 'cause we know the cost of living varies so you can't say i know somebody new york makes this and they're gonna say room. That's not that isn't going to equal pay so it's really more now than most people think so again. It's the similar job. Nna similar situation probably similar area and you can look at comparable jobs that other institutions. And i would only say that would work as far as well. This is much a competitor is doing but again it's really based on that organization and what they're being people in your similar job if there is such a really appreciate your advice to give yourself a time line and create a plan especially to go into negotiations with basement and top salary numbers and be willing to walk away and say now. I think i've definitely learned. I think what. I didn't realize at the time that i was trying to negotiate the raise. The came with the promotion. I waited to sign off on it. Until i had a discussion with my manager and then our director But i didn't really realize that. I could continue to hold off on that kinda indefinitely by did feel some like i needed to move on it in a reasonable timeline or else i was just gonna continue to be paid at the same rate so that was a good thing to learn. I just really appreciate your advice and here suggestions to good team back today. 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Legally Blonde And What's Making Us Happy

Pop Culture Happy Hour

24:51 min | 3 months ago

Legally Blonde And What's Making Us Happy

"In twenty years ago a first year law student named woods and her little dog bruiser arrived at harvard. By reese witherspoon l. Wanted only to win back the boyfriend who broke up with her for not being serious enough but she learned that she was cut out for the courtroom and she met a new man. I'm linda holmes and today we're talking about legally blonde on pop culture. Happy hour from npr. Joining us is writer and editor. Ls iran welcome back ella. Hi thank you so much for having me of course also with us is latisha harris. Npr music contributor ended an editorial assistant for the wonderful npr. Podcast louder than a riot. Welcome back latisha. Thank you so much. Linda hi of course and also joining us is npr. Music's lyndsey mckenna. Welcome lindsay always great to have you. Hey happy to be here so we are here with spectacular panel of people who are interestingly enough all younger than me to talk about Legally blonde legally blind is based on a novel by amanda brown. It was directed by robert luchetti from a screenplay by karen mccullough and kirsten smith. Luke wilson plays els new love interest gentle hearted young lawyer named emmitt. Matthew davis plays her snobby x. Warner and selma blair. Plays her romantic rival. Vivian l. does wind up having a client in a murder case as well. She's played by ali. Larter jennifer cool and shows up as paulette a kind manicurist who becomes her confidante legally blonde led to a sequel and a broadway musical and earned a couple of golden globe nominations despite its light tone. It was part of reese. Witherspoon transition from precocious young person performances in movies. Like pleasantville election to more adult roles in movies like walk the line and vanity fair I want to start with you. What is your relationship with legally blonde. Like i was thinking about this. Actually because i was blown that it's been about twenty years. Came out it which means it came out when i was in middle school and full disclosure. I am from los angeles I am a part time valley girl so it just felt like representation in a very very tongue in cheek kind of way and when you're eleven years old and it's very pink girl power glittery movie. It's just everything you want. Even though half the jokes flew over my head at the time share and of course over the years then know it's on e. and you just like sit down and watch it every single time it's on syndication. So that's just it's it's a very it's rooted in installer for me a lot of time. Yeah i was about nine going on hen in the summer of two thousand and one. So you can't really remember a time in my life before legally blonde there is no pre legally blonde memory. I'm looking back. This was definitely one of my first. Reese witherspoon experiences. I was way too young for election or cruel intentions and she is sort of like a guiding star in my family. We you know if legally blonde is on and my family's all around we're going to watch it. Regardless of what else is happening in wells going on same goes for some of her other sort of lesser rom coms. So we're just a pro. Reese witherspoon family die was definitely do young also to unpack the relationship dynamics. I think it was also the first time that i was aware of what the culture vows announcements. Were there's a prominent Learning about engagement through vows. And i think that a lot of the east coast west coast dynamics were something that i didn't think about then but now are really interesting to me and also just like the pedigree element of this film. That definitely was not on my mind at all and now it's top of mind. Yeah absolutely latisha. How about you. What's your legally blonde. A general feeling. I will say i was probably like four or three when this movie came out. So i remember it. Just as like the subconscious like i love the color pink and i love elwood so my relationship is more just like revisiting. It now like considering medically like how the movie considers idea of serious woman in a serious wife. You know that whole concept calling back to like traditional values of marriage as an economic institution and just like over analyzing what movie is saying when it probably isn't saying everything. I think it saying but it thing so much especially like with the costuming. I love it. I think it's great. Yeah well so when it came out in two thousand one. I was out of law school right. I was a a couple years out of law school. So i saw it of course In the most helpful way which is the based on how realistic or unrealistic. It was about law school and being an attorney. But i really did think of it as that idea of who is serious and who is not serious. I think you know without really specifically mentioning barbie. There's a lot of kind of pink. Barbie doll signaling in this. I think as a couple of you mentioned it was very much associated with california and los angeles and the idea which predates some of you of the valley girls and that idea which really became such a cultural caricature. And what i like about this is. It's not necessarily realistic that she gets into harvard law school the way that she does mutt though way she gets into harvard law. School is not any dumber than the way people do get into harvard. Law school do you know what i mean. It's not any more random than the number of people who get in there because of parents and money and other things that also have nothing to do with whether or not you're going to be a good attorney so the fact that she gets there making a video in a hot tub or whatever. It is directed by a coppola. It's it's ridiculous it's it's ridiculous it's unfortunate it's patriarchal all these old white dudes sitting around deciding to let her in on that basis but it's not any sillier than those same guys deciding well. This person is the son of so and so so regardless of any other accomplishment or anything it would actually be nice if harvard law school in places like it. We're better at recognizing things like organizing you did for your sorority and charity drives and stuff like that so there's part of me like it's not realistic but maybe anyway we'd be better off if it were my first question like my favorite in some ways. My favorite dynamic in this film is that she becomes friendly with the selma blair character. Because the real enemy is warner the boyfriends because i do not like i do not like werner any any warner opinions. I'm a big warner hater. I didn't realize his name is warner for the longest time growing up. I always thought it was warren matter. Could i think the idea of like l. becoming friends with vivian. Just like this movie like barely passes the vegetal test boat every seen that feels it in a way like the man in question is made obsolete by the films in like warner's discovered to be like with no job. Callahan is dismissed from the case. Ups guy is just like the sex object with no name like what's more important in the film is like the community care amongst all the female relationships in like l. Becoming vivian is just like that testament to her being girls girl and she's not shamed for being like i dunno embracing all the traditional like aspects of white minority. You know and the scene. That vivian clues in l. To the fact that werner's father a grandfather had to make a call to get him off the wait list. And you know the big sticking point one of the big moments for hours. When she's at the party that she's been she's been made a fool at the hands of vivian. By in that moment you know she realizes that the real ira should be directed at warner and his idea that she's less than even though they got into the same school went to the same undergrad like their pedigrees. Arguably i think attended at you know that maybe she had a better. Gpa going in. he was obviously. I would assume in sort of the same social circles again. l. being in a sorority her extracurriculars and werner's were probably quite similar. In any case. I agree that i think that that's one of the most fruitful relationships. I also love the constant digs at. Vivian for being so preppy. I just think it's great. I love that is static. And the aesthetic of like the previous. Vivian matched up against the pink. And the over the top on like some of the early two thousands identifiers the tiffany necklace always around elle's neck. It's just it's such a beautiful juxtaposition of like what sort of fashions were aligned at that moment. and then overcoming those differences. Yeah for sure. I also really loved the. There's a lot of subtexts with vivians character. And specifically win a professor callahan's constantly asking her to his coffee To get a doughnut for him to carry just a ton of Depositions and basically be his lackey and when you're eleven years old you don't really realize the commentary that's at play as being a woman in these traditional male spaces but then you know on watching it and rewatching and especially for the shows like. Oh wait this is actually really deep and to really kind of contextualized that with experiences that you've either read about or experienced in real life across any and not just law and so to see the way vivian kind of parse that out it's very subtle and some some very very good in it and vivian doesn't know how to react. And she in fact demonize his al and accuses her basically sleeping her way to the top a few minutes later. Because this is a movie. And we're going to movie timeline. She admits her mistake. And she's very quick to realize that she was in the wrong right so just she's never really painted as the villain she just doesn't know yeah and i think one of the things. I really love about that sequence. It's so painful that sequence where l. is being sexually harassed by callahan. The professor played by victor garber. Because you know so often. I think particularly at that time or before that when you have a man like that who would make this kind of clumsy effort to You know put his hand on the knee of the young woman who is working for him you would get her her anger or her offense or her kind of like how dare you and the slap or whatever i really like how much they play her disappointment and her hurt in this movie that he doesn't take her seriously the way she thought he did that she was looking for a mentor ship and realized that she did not have the relationship that she thought she did with him. She felt respected by him. She believed she was respected by him. It's very smart in that way. In addition to the way that ella was talking about where you see that there's a real danger of her and vivian winding up being sort of set against each other in that setting rather event them both understanding that this is all the operation of callahan. And i you know to the point. We were making about the importance of the women's relationships. I think in general you know. I used to talk in in movies about the what i referred to as the girl role wasteland which is people writing kind of these roles for women that were sort of you know tangential and unimportant and somewhat underwritten. I think you can argue that. The luke wilson part in this has a little bit of that quality which i think is fine. That's not a deeply built out character. He's a nice guy who shows up on the horizon as a promise of the future for the woman who is the important character in the movie. Yeah i think. When i was watching i was like. Oh really just there to be like a believer in allen to like show his like faith in allen like y'all at people who don't believe in her so it's kinda like He's turning this like whole manic pixie dream girl thing on its head and it's just like no you're going to be like a useless man who like loves. This woman just wants to take care of her and respects her. And that's good for it. And i love it. Yeah you don't necessarily have to be like a super exciting interesting to be like the the the nice new boyfriend and the the other thing too is. I i mentioned. I am very into this comment. That elle's father makes a about who goes to law school sweetheart. You don't need law school law schools for people who are boring and ugly and serious and do button. None of those things and what i love about that is. It's so funny to me because it's sword of and it's all but it's also like they're a little insights about law and legal performance in this even though obviously the courtroom. Is this ridiculous finale to the movie that none of it is realistic. But there's this little kernel of truth. Which is the l. Is able to better represent this client. Because she understands the world that the woman lives in. There is a real issue of people being represented by attorneys. Who don't understand the places where they live the communities that they live in the realities of their day to day and therefore cannot represent them as well so in this weird little way this comical version of like the perm on this great character played linda. Cardellini a million years ago in real life. It wouldn't play out with these women in this way but that dynamic is like that's a real thing that's a real thing i think to that and it's kind of like you know you watch grey's anatomy and you're like yes. I could be a doctor. So when i was eleven i watched legally yes. I could be a lawyer. I think it's also aided and abetted by the fact that the one of the core tenants of the movie is not necessarily feminism. So much as it is girl power and belief that you care about bravo and politics at the same time One of the things that i will say as as a person who read this message that being serious did require you to pursue a certain career. I did end up taking the applying and deciding not to go to law school ultimately glad i took that trajectory for obvious reasons but at the same time there is sort of this idea of seriousness. It's something that has frustrated me. It's not a fault of the movie but just what we sort of instill among young students. So it's funny that her father uses that as sort of the the flip side right one other thing that i will admit to willingly as that. My idea self care was definitely based in part on this film that when i am in an funk when it's not a global pandemic i do go get a manicure and i do think that it was partially based on legally blonde. Yeah i love that community as we talked about before of women at the salon who sort of take care of her. Even though you know out of all the things in this movie i could lose the bend and snap business. I think it's a little forced before we go. Do you feel like this movie. Holds up after twenty years. I think it needs a lot of asterisks. To be perfectly honest. I think it was perfectly of time going out tops and all it. The costumes are perfect and really kaffir that era. But there's a lot of fat phobia unfortunately some homophobia. That really didn't sit right with me ellen. Emma effectively out the poor boy when his taking the stand and looking back on that. I didn't have the vocabulary when i was eleven years old to realize that was wrong and now we know that it is wrong and it is something to keep in. Mind as you watch. It's not the raw ross administ- moment else so smart because it's incredibly violent and it's it's really hard to reconcile that who i haven't seen the stage play. I hope they address it in some way because it came out so many years later. But i do think it is something to contend with and also contend a number of homophobic. Stereotypes thought are in the movie and feel really flattened. Did i want to say real quick on the stage. Play does have this whole It has a whole song dedicated to the this scene. Where it's like is he. Gay or european A religious doubles down on the homophobia. Unfortunately so i definitely agree that it doesn't age well in that aspect and also just like the racialized aspect of legally blonde like even the pool. Boy Beans like stereotype just like gay. Latin x l. La macho dude is very interesting. So i think like that in of itself is like a huge pit paul of the movie. Unfortunately yeah i was just curious. And i looked up the demographics of harvard law school i think i got back as two thousand four which i guess is else graduating year and it was about fifty percent non lat next white so the fact that this movie just strictly entirely full of white people is again a product of its time but would be something to address going forward because we know that's not what this school looks like. I agree. I think the general sense that they are all like sort of genius. White hippies is a weird choice that would not hold up to real harvard We do want to hear what you think about legally blonde twenty years later find us at facebook dot com slash p. c. h. h or tweet us p. h. When we come back it's going to be time to talk about what's making us happy this week. So come right back support for pop culture. Happy hour and the following message. Come from mini cooper. Who knows that when you find your tribe. They can bring a spark of happy to every week. That's why there are more than seventy two many owners clubs across the country hosting rallies and charity events with their own special twist for the mini owners of colorado and wyoming also known as many cow that meant hosting a twenty twenty letter collecting photos of their many with twenty six different backgrounds related to cows or farming for the sierra nevada. Many club that meant planning mini for a cause a fundraiser to benefit young people affected by devastating fires in northern california from arkansas to arizona. Las vegas to long island. Many drivers know how to band together to support each other and their communities because just like no too many are alike not too. Many drivers are alike but they're all pretty good together. Steer over too many usa dot com to explore the full twenty twenty two lineup. Welcome back to pop culture happy hour. It's time for our favorite segment of this week and every week. What's making us happy. This week l. o. What is making you happy this week. What's making me happy this week. Is the book fat chance. Charlie baker by crystal maldonado. It's a very very sweet waie novel about a girl who's typically cast as the fat best friend and just going through high school end navigating with how the guy that she likes likes her best friend. Kind of coming into. Not necessarily body positivity but body trout and body acceptance and doing so in a multicultural way. And it's just very very sweet. It's it reminds me a lot of to all the boys in just that purity and it's just a very white easy read. Which is what. I need right now for sure. So what's the title again. Fat chance. Charlie aright right. Thank you very much ella. Latisha harris what is making you happy to see What is making me happy. This week i've been having a week writing to turn my brain off as soon as i get. Also i've been watching a lot of the nanny Unfortunately it hasn't turning my brain off but it still has been made me happy. The costuming france voice friends laugh niles so so funny. I forgot how witty and how much influence my life. But it's been interesting re watching it. Because i've been also reading it in combination with Work love you back with sarah jaffe and i just got to the section about domestic work and you know how we asked people domestic workers to take care of kids and ask them to love them as well and like a blurred line between personal and professional so washington in any and watching love. These kids just like. I don't know if i love this but it's still making me happy. I agree with that. The nanny is now available on. Hbo max and we are going to be talking about the nanny. We want questions from you about About the nanny you can email us a voice memo with your question to h h at npr dot. Org again questions about the nanny. Son us a voice memo with question to pch. Npr dot org okay lindsay mckenna. What is making you happy this week. So i think at this point in the year. Two thousand twenty one. It is impossible to call any of the members of the supergroup boy genius underrated. But today i want to express my utter gratitude for one of the perhaps unheralded members. Lucy davis what's making me happy. This week is that. She has announced her third album video. It'll be released. In june on june twenty fifth and with that announcement comes in you single. It's called hot and heavy. And i'm a person who really loves music videos and this music video got right in that. Just like soft spot. I'm pretty emotional thinking about it. And lucy released a statement with the video. She said. I know that the teen version of me wouldn't approve of me now. And that's embarrassing. And a little heartbreaking. And even if i know intellectually i like my life and who i am. And as a person who is feels. Like she's constantly reconciling younger versions of resolve and older versions cottage. Just got me good. Lucy davis has also released towards. So i am trying to allow myself a little bit of optimism because her date at the nine thirty club. Here in dc own include one of my favorite artists of last year party strange. So i'm hopeful that maybe just maybe i will be vaccinated with a mask enjoying dates and friends and maybe a beer and crying to the song is all the questions. Are your parents long. Run brand tastic. Thank you so much lindsay mckenna. What is making me happy this week. It's been a while since. I called out a twitter feed. But i have really been enjoying. The twitter work of harrington runs a feed called lingerie addict and Core writes about out lingerie and one of the things that she does. The most is talks about construction economics of particularly bras and lingerie that are of good quality and spends a lot of time explaining how complicated the construction is. And why you know why does cost so much and wiser so expensive and she'll go through the entire kind of creation of it. How much design it takes. How many panels there are. How many pieces. There are in a well-made bra and to me it's such an interesting combination of kind of economics and fashion and design and engineering and kind of social commentary on what's valued and what's not valued. There's also just a lot of really interesting information about the creation of apparel in general. That's just taught me a lot and it's interesting to realize like you know if you've been wearing bras since you're twelve years old. I think a lot of people. Don't think about them that much. By a certain point so again. I really recommend core harrington on twitter at lingerie underscore addict so that is what is making me happy this week and that brings us to the end of our show. You can find all of us on twitter. You can find me linda. 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Part 2: Rotten Tomatoes Game + News (ACS Feb 15)

The Adam Carolla Show

1:06:01 hr | 6 months ago

Part 2: Rotten Tomatoes Game + News (ACS Feb 15)

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So comeback kid He has been well he he he gives you a choice he'll either dominate out of the gate or he'll give you a little bit of a lead and then on the last one just fucking just hit you right in the center lane man. Just park it. Park it right in the center. Lane man right onto the median. Yeah neutral to doesn't want come to a full stop at all right. Y'all all right. Valentine's day is upon us and love is in the air. Even before the days of romeo and juliet. Humans have gravitated to stories about forbidden. Love the most surprising relationships are the ones that last longest this week. We're featuring movies with very unlikely couples and before you ask. Unfortunately taboo to does not have a rotten tomatoes score. Oh our first film is the ultimate made a december romance about the love that forms between a twenty year old boy and an eighty year. Old woman this is one of my favorite movies in the world. Batumi needed a funeral and explore the meaning of life together through their beautiful. But let's face it kind of cringing relationship. Bud court and ruth gordon star in nineteen seventy-one herald and maud. I loved this movie. Soundtrack is amazing. It's all cat stevens at the time. cat stevens even said if you want to hear this music you can't buy it. You have to go see this movie. Wow now it's a power move. I saw the movie million years ago. I can't tell if it's weird or good or like holds up like times. It's good my son and my son was saying like i've seen my son's getting into movies and he's getting into directors and he's wanting to watch directors you know and so he had like stanley kubrick you know. And he was like He didn't he didn't like he didn't like the shining so i made him sleep outside for like two days. I that's a good move people a slow burn movie. It's not it is but it's good. It's not. It's not boring watching the kid on. The big wheels is terrifying because the shot it's great and then he watched two thousand one space in. I'm bored like i don't wanna see coon raymond then so i say why don't we go. Watch the first hour of full metal jacket. Because that's the kubrick film and and the great gunny arly army yet. I fuck and miss that guy. I don't miss half the people that died in the last five years. But i miss arly army fucking love that guy and i was like you wanna watch performance. Watch this guy and i said the first hour i forty five minutes and then you know becoming kind of average and he watched the whole thing and announced he loved it. It's always weird when you're sitting there with your son and that part where all the all the soldiers are sitting out front and the vietnamese guy comes pulling up with vietnamese teenage check. And he's like me sucky sucky long time you know. And there's like ten dollars boo boo goo the black guy pulls up. And she's like boo koo. Dick's do big just sitting extra. My son gone. How do i explain how the world really works. Gluck here thinking your ed first off person. I on as far as jobs go ten dollars. This is nineteen sixty nine. You understand there's back in the day right. So understand when blowjobs were going for ten bucks and hanoi understand that gas was forty one cents a gallon. You understand that kind of bargain today. Yes just cut do the same basic math. You know what i'm saying. This is when vivian. Pickles was co starring in films. Times have changed right so now there's this movie and heroin kamar so much go to white castle. It's not that it's that it's only half of apart. That's just something that paul actually was. Just the part because the herald mud so now we go back to. He's talking about stanley. Kubrick says what about clockwork orange. And i go. I said i can't remember that movies. Great or just weird i. there's a lot of iconic movies or you go. Oh that's an iconic. Moving i go. Yeah but maybe it's just weird. I don't know that it's actually good. And i'm i'm gonna say herald and maud could be weird. I watched it. I remember kind of liking it but there are two things that were going on with this movie. You have the cat stevens soundtrack which is always going to be good. And they had a jaguar xe j. k. e. which was done up to look like a funeral home hearse so he had a novelty car in a great soundtrack. In back in the seventies that was about enough to be to be a good movie right and it was again. You've never seen it right. No i just realized that this wasn't Pure luck with martin short. So i'm still a couple beats behind. No how old was the kid and how about to turn eighty and it's the juxtaposition as he's kind of obsessed with death and he's morbid and you know but he's young and she's full of life and rebellious and loves living until she doesn't and i don't know maybe i 'cause i saw it in college and so i was kind of swept away in it so maybe it sucks but i have fond memories of watching it many times now. Do you think the movie could been served better if the kid was younger like. I don't know ten eleven a lot of his now. There's that movie. I don't know what's called arnold pump timberlake in some young kid and we've now seen a ton of the about a boy. Korean saint vincent of the old man old gal with with a kid and they teach each other lessons. Did this a little bit of that or not. Because he was twenty. And he's like look mod six chicks so there's not too much more you're going to teach me or was he like a inexperienced twenty year old recluse. That was kind of like look. I think we can both get something out of this. Let's not kill each other make. I don't know if this makes you wanna watch it more or less. I think one of the plot points as she is his first. Oh yeah kind of that. A few of these they had this summer fifty two which is another movie about this kind of relationship except for the woman was like thirty all right. Let's let's let wait. Volkswagen point of the movie does do they get it on midway who get the rest of the flicked to kinda watch the with the aftermath. That's right now. She's probably like don't be so weird about it What are you never seen a center lane before. Well not in the dark and bullshit. You haven't seen this. Adam wasn't haven't back in the day high night six times. Though in the theater day there wasn't a lot that didn't make the cut for my. Spank bank a really low bar. Lev ruth gordon. I've now since. I have a more discerning palate in terms of what makes it into the spank bank but back then if you look at a young adam spank bank and what can gain entry into that that facility. I mean i'd go to big five and look at the fucking box. That iraq came in and go. Who's that hoti laugh all right. She's in she's in the spank bank. I fell in love with a chicken on a raft box. When i was fourteen but this did not make it into the spank bank. So that's going to hurt. I say this is an iconic film. Critics love the theme of this. And i say one percent. Yeah i i'm right there with you. I feel strongly about this. I hope i'm right. Eighty three. i'm going to one dollar. Both guys. I feel like this was a A fan favourite. I think it's become a cult classic and and just the way that you guys speak about. It makes me feel like that's closer to eighty five percents Adam rates gotta start going. I yeah get a cocktail napkin. That's even get a ballpoint guatemalan chicken. Show yes mr pacino. Right away. Hoo-ha ballpoint pen in a box of weekends. Who saw all right. So just a reminder of the rules to atom. Ray you must come up with your score before. Everyone announces their scores. Someone hit a bullseye. Hone no adam ray and that someone is adam ray off certified for eighty five percent point auction. No no no no. I don't think he gets a deduction for this. I think we all learned something about writing our scores down. He's in a facility. That doesn't add pants. I can do. I can do. I can do it on a little electronic path. You just go first. You go first every time. What's bud court. Why do i feel like but court producer something. Do you remember the movie. But i'm a cheerleader. Tasha leone okay. He was in that. That's the last thing. I've seen it kind of an offbeat movie about her going to like one of those camps where you know it. It means you enga- okay. So we're we're all versus starring in the movie cruising which makes you gay rights. Yeah i wonder if pacino had to go to an un- gay camp after wrapping cruising to wash it out of his hair. He's he's method. That's what i'm saying so yeah this isn't just about whatever happens on by the way if a if your little one is doing director andy and i just finished. All of christopher nolan movies option memento dark night that he would he would never leave the movie theater. If you went to christopher nolan next one about cocoon all oh yeah. Yeah that's right. That's a great movie for bramley was forty nine. I think i yeah there whatever that story nine nine years too late to be gay all right. What's our next on next up. One of the sexiest actors alive plays a socially awkward loner finds it impossible to make friends or find love but thanks to the internet ryan. Gosling finally has a new girlfriend to show off. only she's not exactly mail order bride. When large begins parading around his newly purchased sex doll the whole family plays along with his very strange divisions from two thousand seven lars. And the real girl. Anybody this i heard. I heard it was great and so in this particular case. See i think you take the movie and you take the execution and the acting and the writing and everything that is the movie and you come up with a score van. There is a societal score. Which is the woke is people in the world review movies. So are we going to deduct a few points because of the theme or we gonna add a few points because of the theme. This particular film i heard was a great film. So you're going to get a good score. And then i think we're going to bump it up a little bit because of its kind of woke nece coolness kind of openness sir whatever critically the critics would would like the theme of it so adam raise gonna go first after gina. Ni- lock it in the center lane. Us go ahead atom ray. I agree with you. I've seen the movie. I know the fans enjoyed it. I know you got gosling doing something where he wasn't just plowing away somewhat on someone and and he got to do a little a little flex the acting muscle being in love with a with a doll and Spoiler alert and i'm gonna go seventy eight percent I i gave it a good movie. And i gave it a little bump for the theme gave it eighty eight percent interesting. I'm right there with With adam ray. I said seventy nine percent cameo lars and the real girl is certified fresh at eighty one percent. Okay yeah that was that. Yeah this is a close game. Next film is about an awkward loner. Who's unable to connect with people in the traditional way but in the very near future a new operating system is able to develop its own intuitive and unique personality and so what begins as a basic iphone serey relationship soon blossoms into a full fledged romance joaquin phoenix stars alongside the voice of scarlett johansson. In twenty thirteen's her fell. He also had a very close relationship with my phone You know it's where i get most of my information It's where most of my contacts are You know i'll face time with robin every now. And then i'll i'll send a recipe ideas or dick picks but you know. I don't use siri as much as i want to. I've used it twice. Siri who wrote caribbean queen. And the other one was a seri- bailey. Okay we'll see And there you go see. Siri didn't even know that. So that makes me question. The phone. And its intelligence but walking phoenix. Trust anything he does. Okay if i saw him walk rod into gang bang with two condoms on one pre cut. I'd follow him right in there. But i digress. I think this movie It was ahead of its time. I think the phone had yacht yacht. Rock had not yet. I'm going gonna give this movie a certified giant filler up as i like to say in my new coffee table book Explore the ins and outs of Of young genital animated gentle work named toby and his experience through a through the late. I'm gonna give this movie a hard hard. Eighty seven percent people love phoenix. I heard the movie was good. But i didn't hear a lot about it and snuck up on you i. It's also kind of the ones that i think critics would like. Because it's kinda weird and it's got got those things in place. But i didn't hear a ton about of than it seemed good. I'm going to go back to your guys. Seventy nine yeah. I think there was a some critical acclaim around this but I watched the first. I don't know twenty thirty minutes at one point. I got bored turned off and his. Brian would say nobody has said oh. You have to see her. Which i think is an indication. So but i know. People like also seventy-five her certified fresh and ninety four percents. No way that's what i'm talking about and that critics and sorry. The audience has it at eighty two so this must have had some there must be some extra role. Woke points going on this film. It wasn't the voice scarlett johansson. Yes do that right. There is enough to get that tomato meter up to close to a hundred because scarlett johansson. You could tell me. I have leukemia. And i'd still come to know from right next. Don't act like you all have thought that. Okay that awkward silence. Let me know that we might be taken a commercial break since we're keeping it here. Let's go to our next movie. Does next feature a story of two steps things who get off on making other people miserable but clearly just wanna bang each other things get even more uncomfortable with both parties attempt to seduce virgin but end up catching real feelings instead adapted from the classic french novel. Elliot's all digital saw Bay sarah michelle. Gellar and reese witherspoon star in one thousand nine hundred. Nines cruel intentions saw this mater. Movie was fucking hot. I'll say that. I'll say that ten times over now real quick is it filip. Filipi dawson said something. Real fa philipe or phillipi. Gary told me. I said it wrong. I don't remember how. I said it but filipino there. It is ryan philippine philippines philippine. Either way he's look. That is a face on a poster like whoever directed this movie. Poster goes all right now. Ryan. i'm not gay. But if i was how would you try to pick me up at the cheesecake factory and action our right now. This is gonna be tough because this ain't they you know the the last fields talking about going to be somewhere between all the films we're talking about somewhere between like eighty ninety or somewhere in that neighborhood this thing could be you know decent at fifty eight sixty sixty two somewhere in there but it could also be a twenty twenty six th. There's some big. There's some room here there's some. There's some gap. it's here all right. I'm in adam. Ray who i know. My kids Day they were at the age to see this when it came out. I believe in almost say ninety. Five ninety. Six ninety seven dasa's era ninety nine. Okay close enough but it it. Was you know it had that movie. vibe of i'm gonna see this again at home by myself because if you remember gina there was a make out scene between spoiler alert. There's some hard core lesbian action. Okay really era gellar and reason a no not Selma blair also in this picture. Oh damn i think you may have as she's in. Yeah oh okay good. Oh they kiss. Yeah you think. I'm going to forget. Selma blair kiss now but they They get into it and i. It's real exciting. But i think you're right and this movie could have a low score based on it's not national appeal But i think because of the Lesbos stuff and felipe philip and ryan. Then it's gonna go you know i'm gonna go just above my favorite position and we're gonna go seventy percent. Oh okay. I want lower one thirty nine. I went with your top score when you were theorizing. I said it's barely rotten. Fifty eight cruel intentions is rotten but barely at fifty. Five shit balls myself. Oh boy man. I listen to you. It helps game. I genus enersen. This close finally of all the unlikely relationships that have been featured over the years only one love story as truly stood the test of time it was love at first sight and their loyalty towards one another is seen and never questioned across more than ten films. But let's go back to the very beginning when a banjo playing frog. I makes is with a hammy wannabe actress. With hall of hollywood dreams kermit the frog and miss piggy piggy share an unexpected rainbow connection in one thousand nine hundred. Seventy nine. The muppet movie. So good. yeah one of the best of all time arguably the best muppet movie great. Didn't that see it. Come on classic ad. I love these. They love these movies. Yeah good ponds was a goddamn genius. And he got he got a criminal ride a bike as a first time. We saw muppets. Do people things really. I went down to hinson studio many years ago. Cool in what was his. Imagine some now that was trying to think of what. Imagine something or i had his studios. Were called something. Just mentioned students over on the breyer. Yeah yeah no kerr me on the on the statue up front i went down. I went to northern california. Gerry feel figure. I don't know they might have had a creature shop. There's i don't want seattle or someplace like that. They did All right so gary. Here's some homework for at some point. Today there was a commercial where it was. And i don't remember the product it was for. But it was like barbie driving in her corvette and then at some point. Ken like jump in and barbara. Got rid of cannon or something. It was a it was like a funny commercial that was probably from like nineteen ninety seven or nineteen ninety eight and they made it down at that studio and i was doing some pilot for some ordinary extraordinary. Stupid sitcom thing you know variety show thing pilot and i went down there and like interviewed the guys who did it and stuff like that. I have these vague memories of this kind of funny henson. Barbie live action. Live action barbie doll in the. Yeah in the corvette commercial probably from the again like ninety seven ninety eight anyway. All right. The critics love it. Was it eighty two or are we talking about ninety seven here now. Adam got out with his five point deduction and a big lead. Gina's been kind of she's been chipping away at it. I'm in. I'm in the mix i don't feel like i'm in the lead. I'm just in the mix. So i'm gonna go. I'm not gonna say yet. But morocco go first atom ray. Okay i i. I love this movie. It's one of my faves. I think I think even at the time. I know that there's some dimension films like labyrinth from the dark crystal that did not Weren't really received well by the critics but became called classics. And almost them. up of movies. Are you know the ones done by. Jim henson this one. Muppets take manhattan. To take manhattan. Caper are highly regarded. This was the first of the three and again push the envelope. Did some big things had a lot of great guest stars. Fucking steve martin is in it. I'm gonna go. And because i think the muppets are not respected. Like they used to be with good reason. Because you don't have gym at the helm. But i think this one is going to get its due credit and i'm gonna go ninety one percent well. I went ninety. three gina. interesting as adema was talking. I was just gonna say yes for all of the reasons. Adam ray said and if you don't think we're supposed suppo- ninety one. Wow wow how will. The muppet movie is certified fresh at eighty eight percent. Okay and the people across the board. Yeah people have it at eighty eight all right. Well i'm out now. Well we all love consistency. Gina grad. You're consistently on the podium single time. Adam corolla with a score of forty seven respectable adam ray coming in five point deduction helped but did it help enough atom ray. Your score is twenty. Three leaving us with gina grad. Where on the podium will she fall gina grad in bald. Brian's absence while you still cannot win twenty nine takes it away. Aspirin one by six points by the way so if we took away that five point deduction win by no. Well look and there's a valuable lesson to be learned here which is don't ever count yourself out okay even when you get kicked out of the bravo for the third time in a row. Go back in. Tell them you left your idea in the urinal and that's when you get to pick up where you left things off with that girl in quotes Who told you she wanted to be. Rabbi we'll be right back or you think you've found that barbie. What was it for. Maybe let's let's see here by the way. That was a very extensive barbie commercial like you're describing like you select ken left. Barbie at the altar happening like barbie kind of driving along and was for nissan. Yes it's a kid's room with dinosaurs. The g. i joe ceased to need some got the nissan see car pops into harrison ford. Young here gets his alma. Couldn't make this commercial today. Because he gets to the sports car white guy gender and he's picking up a hot chick and he's driving this car all the way for the house steps out of the car. Up our base frozen barbie at the sister is at her. She's got ready quitting pothole. That can wikus second was the guy at the end. That was the guy who came up with the z. Car is named like mr p. Or something like that has got a long crazy last name japanese and probably not crazy. You live in japan. But if you're from north. Hollywood all names are crazy and definitely laughed. You definitely laughed. And had a look on his face like he took all the ecstasy and he just saw that whole thing play out and saw the car drive away and was like laughing to himself. because he's like man. No one's gonna believe what i just saw mat-su i or something. He's mr aram or or whatever it's called he lived. He like the grandfather datsun. Nissan z lower and made it to like one hundred years old. There's something i died super recently. Or is he still alive. Gary died it. Sorry died at eighty six in semi recently so the the the grandfather of the datsuns z. Was that guy between barbie's face and this guy's face that's the whole spectrum of recognize recognizable barbie. Who is that guy. Why would they put him in without explaining who it is or is it just for people in the know in the nissan no Don't know what I think they call those easter eggs. You know what. I mean it just like it. I don't know it's just it's cool. You're supposed to go look it up or something. I don't know he was round. I mean he died in july twenty twenty just died then oh did not see that on entertainment tonight so A very stern letter those people but in my world that guy because i have all the dots race cars the big guy and it was a cool commercial. But i don't know if you could. Can you make that commercial anymore. Were the good looking white dude. It's like picking up the check. And i don't know anything close up and just get through to leave her. Her guy all at problematic. Yeah they closed course do not. Oh that's true all right. I think the conversation was like twenty minutes down the freeway right after. I would've loved to have seen that you know like with indiana jones and barbie. Yeah like she likes so just and i do have to be backed by like ten thirty to take my kids to school in the morning. And he's like you just left your husband from me. We're not going back. She's like mattel or whatever the nissan then you cut the home. Where was that studio. Gary was that it was up north. And i can't remember. I remember got on an airplane. Went down there was going to interview the who made the commercial and whatever it was that jim henson thing but all right let me hit macari and then we'll do some news at the start of the new year. The amount of stuff in our homes hits it's peak macari. The marketplace app makes it easy to say goodbye to unused stuff and make money from home simply down loaned download car. Take a few picks. Your stuff added description and your item is on the way to being sold. No meetups just box it up and macari emails a shipping label. So you got a lot of extra stuff around the house. You don't wanna throw it away. You may wanna make a little extra money so you go macari over fifty million downloads. You can start buying and selling when he download today use the app. You can get the app at the app store or macari dot com. That is m. e. r. c. a. r. I mc ari your marketplace. Where was that place doing out. Still looking everything. That goes up for the jim. Henson studios says it's at sunset and la brea but i'm still looking for the north location all right and by the way a recommendation. I saw prisoners last night with my son and two thousand thirteen. Hugh jackman jake jilin hall paul. Dano it's a good movie guys like the suspense kinds of thrillers and dramas. And all i do then by all means you know who's really good at those jake gyllenhaal. The guy has been in like he. Did he win for brokeback mountain. I don't know. I feel won for brokeback mountain. Loved that he had but he's always so solid and there a movie about la cops. That was almost like an indie film. He did about it. The i saw it recently. Man he says quietly amazing all the time he. He's great but my son fucked up the entire movie for me. Because i built this movie theater my house that has like a twelve foot screen. We're don't believe it. We're sitting right up front and right at the top. My son goes at jilin halls. Great but he's he's a. He's a long blinker. Hold and then up and he holds it down and stop. He's long blinker. Grays yeah he just the blink watching blink the whole fucking film. I've just staring at guildhall. They did it again. He did it again. Like completely ruined the movie for me. Because i kept just staring am like it was a code or something to me. He does too long blink. I don't i don't know what that is. It's if everyone else's blink. Is you know one tenth of a second. His six tenths of a second. That's how the man blinks and then maybe it's an acting choice at some point. I started wrestling with it. I was like well. Maybe that detective blinks that way you know what i mean. Maybe it's not jake. Jilin hall blinking. Oh he did it again bad. Maybe it was a maybe. Donnie darko blinks. That way watch blinks. Stay up all night watching every jill hall flick just to make a catalog of all the time. See tie extra blinks now. Yeah that's i mean every act has got a tick like that. Maybe that's is. Oh he's the long he holds it for a second and then popular saturdays up again. Yeah it does sound like seinfeld episode. Where like george can't go out with a girl because she's a blinker. Ruin every jalen hall film for you. All right we'll take ourselves break. We'll come back. We'll do the news right after this gene gene. We're crying protest news. She knows stuff solo. Joe by trump. The news with gene grab well as adam teased earlier. We have a new a celebrity. Let's say on the chopping block for a new reason bachelor host. Chris harrison has announced he'll be stepping back from his duties on. Abc show due to what's being called an ongoing racism controversy that saw him on the receiving end of intense backlash this week. This according to fox harrison took to instagram with a lengthy statement on saturday. And i'll just. I'll just give you a couple of highlights in a second to take accountability for his actions. Here's part of it. He says well. This is the beginning. I've spent the last few days listening to the pain. My words of 'cause full wait till you hold on a. My ignorance did damage to did damage to my friends. Colleagues and strangers alike. I have no one to blame but myself for what i said. On the way i spoke. So what he's referring to is an appearance on xtra in an interview with lower. Alum rachel lindsay. Who was the show's first. Black female lead in the interview. He defended current contestant. Rachel kirk connel connell. After photos reserves to attending an old south themed party at a plantation in two thousand eighteen So he he you know kinda tried to cut her some slack. There didn't work. Harrison confirmed he'll be stepping aside for a period of time and will not join the after the final rose special he said He reached his decision by consulting with one brothers. Abc so he he reached it. He's now it's kind of interesting because was talking with august about this. Now we're at the point with the cancel culture. Which is you cancel. The person that did whatever the act was dressing up like scarlett. O'hara now we're at the point. Where if you go. Oh don't cancel her. we need to. We need to have more forgiveness. We need we need we need to. We don't need it so if you're the person that says we don't need to cancel everyone. We need more grace than you're ask. It's canceled too. So you're actually cancelling the person and then the other person that says not to cancel them. Which is basically what happened to chris. I was kicking around this theory with the august as we were screaming as old white guys like the do on the weekend. About how fucking insane everyone has gone. And how the it's not the lunatics have taken over this the asylum. The kids have taken over this island. Because what's going on now. Like at the new york times and all these places all these kids that learned all this shit on college campuses. They're now entering the workforce and they are setting protocol for everyone. Who's been there for forty years. So it's a whole group of snot nose pieces shit. Twenty six year olds. Who got fucking poisoned on college campuses. Now they're in the workforce and they're deciding what books can be published book can't be published. And what op eds can be run. And what can't be on what reporters for with forty five years. Experience need to be shipped can cause they're telling some story on vacation with some kids and he brought up the n. Word because some kid brought it up the ham and he's trying to put it in context. They're fucking in charge. I told you the children are our future. That is gonna fuck everyone over forty so when i was growing up it was like don't trust anyone. I don't trust anyone over thirty. That was the rallying cry. My new thing is fuck everyone under forty. Fuck you guys. You need to be told to shut the fuck up. They control social media. They're fucking taken everyone who's over forward and just take them out the fucking woodshed. But here's the thing there's there's a new world order. Which is we are approaching this. There used to be a convention to this stuff. Like publicist would tell in damage control. People say that go look. Just write a statement. Apologize get out in front. You know was like get out. Get out in front. They they cancel your ass apology or not anymore. It's like the the new york times guy road. I'm so sorry. I should've never fine weeks after your apology. Now your shit can't see used to be apologize. Get out in front. Do the do the press conference and then you get to go to work. You just have. All they want is your apology. They don't want your policy. That what you fucking job. Now they want your soul so you can't take the convention that the publicist because that's that's two thousand. That's one thousand nine hundred ninety nine. Just write a written apology and then offer an apology and then appeased these people. But you can't fuck in appease them because they don't want to be a piece they don't want you to be they. Don't want your apology. They want you removed from your livelihood and there needs to be a new convention or a new approach to this when it comes to publicist the only people that survive. Now wanna go fuck you. I'm not apologizing like charles. Barkley is fine trader. Joe's had some snot no seventeen year. Old fuck stick from the san francisco area go. Hey you need to get rid of all these taco shells and the pizza sauce and the mama mia pizza saw in the thai food. Whatever and you know what trader. Joe's said fuck you seventeen year old. We're not gonna do shit and that anyone give a fuck now. Are they going to go back to trader joe's because these guys work like fucking terrorists once they abduct the camera crew from cnn. And you pay the ransom. Guess what more abductions. Don't pay the ransom. Don't fucking pay the ransom. Everyone do what trader joe's does and what charles barkley and they'll leave you alone because they're fucking feckless cowards. Who just went up fucking outs of of a flesh. Don't give it to them. There should be no more pol chasing the really. Shouldn't it doesn't work anymore. When did it start because even when you look like things with the guys in baseball steroids like they came out and kind of did a little thing and then a lot of them got to go back in and play right. like era. didn't really. He had to sit out a little bit and then he was allowed to go back. But when is it different for sports. I like we like more of the comeback story. I guess with with athletes. Yeah we used to want an apology. When i'm saying is they don't want your apology chop. Yeah they went into that one of the mob mentality of the people be like we just wanna take you down and that'll fill are void way in the super when the self esteem movement kicked into high gear and all the fucking precious snowflakes made their way to college who now then spread out into corporate america. These are the groups. So when somebody runs. And op ed in the new york times the editors fine and everyone over forty is fine. It's all the twenty six year olds. Get pissed off and say they're going to storm out. The new world order has to be. Hey storm the fuck out pussies. Good luck gupta fucking street and get a job at the enquirer. They'll let the fucking door hit you on the way out. A whole bunch of fucking young fuck and poison little kids with their super high self-esteem. How high does your self esteem have to be free to cancel somebody simply through the fucking roof. We decided that self esteem was awesome. It is not. This is high self esteem. This is all these fucking twenty four year old junior cub reporter's going not not at the new york times it's been around for one hundred and seventy years but i'm twenty four now i say now and the and then we listen to them. Yeah no one should fucking listen. Hey kids zip it. Go back to your shitty cubicle. Well the thinking around here because we're senior and we've been here matter. There is a lot to be said about just being on earth longer and being able to call the shots about. I don't know worldly things right. It's it's all that demographic shit remember it's like the the number one demographic is eighteen to twenty four the number when you wanna be it. Doesn't you know who cares about humor. Numbers or whatever you want to win that demographic that demographic is eighteen to twenty four that young demographic soon as we started pitching all that that's when the fuck and kids got all their fucking horrible and they're drunk with power and there is no negotiating with them. They need to be fucking slapped. And i don't know why the adults don't want to act like adults but they don't want to act like adults adults start fucking acting like adults trying to be a fucking kids best friend and start being a parent. How about that. The question for the crystal brain What comes next for the next generation to the the twenty five year olds become forty five and go. Oh god what have we done or does the pendulum swing back. The other way i hope snacks they all od on federal. And we don't have this problem anymore but look how you raise your kid to be your best friend. You raise your kid and not as the parent but as buds. Then that fucking kid goes off the college and hangs out with a bunch of fucking like-minded retards and do not expect it to stay on the college campuses. Those people who are infected are going right to the new york times going to abc going to twitter. They're going to all all the fortune. Five hundred companies. I talked to guys. Like i'll give you a real good example. I talked to a guy when dr drew and i were doing our show. He was at google. He is at google and he's a fifty year old guy and he's like we were there when there were like canceling parlor the other week and he psych. Let me tell you what it used to be like back in the day like the internet. Everyone was a libertarian. Everyone was like the internet. Open up free exchange of ideas. There's no cancel culture for the guys that are fifty but he said we got a bunch of fucking twenty six year olds that want to shut it down. They want to tell everyone what to say what to think. And now they're in charge. And if you're the fifty year old guy you you're going to get shit canned if you start speaking up. Where do these fucking kids come from. The came from families that raise them with super high self esteem that treated them like co workers. Instead of parents and children they made their way onto college campuses. The fucking poisoning continued. And now they're working. Google and they're calling the fucking shots so there's one choice push back. Stop apologizing start fucking swat and these kids and telling them they don't understand life you don't understand life when you're twenty three shut up. Let the adults do the thinking. But everyone is is and it doesn't help to the kid who makes millions of dollars opening toys on youtube being the president in twenty years ryan. Trust me. i've seen so much of this kid in this house lately. Oh he's worse. In fact we have a lot of rules here. Because we're we're we're pretty cool me and the kid but but he knows that if we're gonna watch something no ryan when i'm home i watch it. I don't like it and we don't we. Don't watch it adam. This kid ryan. He makes about thirty million dollars a year opening toys. That company sends them for free on youtube. How does he like nine. Yeah but after taxes true he gets. He's precocious not easy. Doesn't have star quality. I don't know why his faces on every argote. how did he get picked. But he's does he have a sense of entitlement when he's opening the toys like does he scoff at like a new gi. Joe is like say worse. He has a sense of boredom. God and speaking of not apologizing. I often i refer to my call my stepson as the kid or the little one or the five year old. And that's a thing that i have no control over on a personal level but somebody just tweeted me yesterday Out of nowhere. i mean. It wasn't a debate or anything. Somebody said i have it right here and i think gary has it gina. I i love you. You know this. I don't know who this is. But some people feel that referring to their child as the kid is demeaning. I have had no response. I had a lot of responses in my head like some people should go fucking fry ice. I'd go go fuck yourself. Worry about your own kid like i had so many things going through my mind and i thought to give a tweet like this. Any attention is not something i'm going to do. He's he's my quote unquote kid and we work our asses off to give him a good and healthy and stable life. And if you don't like the name i call him. Go fuck yourself. i don't know what to tell you. We have a good family here. We have a perfect situation. There's a reason. His privacy is protected and go. Eat a bag dicks. It's i. I'm not cowering to this well first off. We're taping this on my people sabbath. So i'd appreciate your language a little bit. Unm wouldn't know this is my people. Sabbath watched the language number two. Why don't you just switch to douche nozzle like. I did all my son kid. A lot got a little heat. On the internet's i swapped it to douche nozzle. That's you know that might be next because nobody is more loved or protected than this child. And there's a reason for that. So yeah yeah go go go pound sand everybody vacaville. I like i prefer people stop people at douche bag and call them at douche nozzle because i feel like the bag is far away but the nozzles really the business and you know we. We've and you're exactly right. And i'm glad you brought this point up because it's something that's been on my mind okay for the last six seasons which is the bag is is full. We've filled up the bag of sh. Okay it's time to To find another way to express our hatred and genuine anger towards others But still in a fun way. Douche nozzle Sounds like you know first of all it. Sounds like a nick junior character. okay voice duchas or what have you probably have you know. Hey hey hey. He's someone of a loner type but but he's packing heat downstairs. If you know what i'm saying we cock but right but he's you know it's if we can start calling each other names that make us laugh at the same time Then i think we can start progressing away. And if if if i may gina calling him the kid is is in my is kind of a a heroic thing. When i think of the kid. I think of the disney movie. The kid with bruce willis i think king junior. Okay both great things okay. So that's a great nickname to have and first of all and lastly it's your in business. So whoever tweeted that to you can suck on a okay can eat the at bag addicts. That adam said that are probably on sale at trader. Joe's okay and then you can take your own film. Put up your own asks. Okay twenty and when you get to nineteen pull it out yourself. When the i we'll be right back fell i i i should tell you. I don't think he heard this but it is my people sabbath today and i'd really kinda appreciate the language. Oh crust folk and cox such. I'm so fucking sorry gut shit and fuck it. God damn it. You know what. I told myself book and curse on the show today. But fucking shit. Bob ed book kid is all i am breakfast going to complimentary breakfast room so i guess i felt safe. It's a safe space. Yeah kid kid is a great pretender song. By the way though should know. And i wasn't going to say this because i never thought it would come out but if i can just put a finer point on this and i should pull his baseball glove. 'cause it's monogrammed on there had that done. We don't even call him by his name in this house. We don't call them by name referring to him. I made up a nickname for him along time ago. And we all call him that and he calls himself that that's awesome. We call him kid boy. I like with good. But that's what's so funny about it and he goes. Why are you come in your can your boy your boy. And that's something that you guys came up with together so it's extra special. It's you know instead of having a name pre g xactly. Yeah we all have nicknames. I'm wearing he got me a valentine's bracelet right now with the initial l. on it but you have call me gina. We have nicknames each other. So yeah i call my stepdad Better dad and then i call I cur i call. I call my My brother-in-law dirty Captain kief so all. But that's only because he has a new song out. And i think it's called that by the way dirt tape posted something on facebook yesterday. That said a picture of a mike and it said the asshole is back. Get ready hashtag. I think judgment day. I'm paraphrasing it. Was ominous it was scary. It was dirty. Check it out. I call my stepdad fake dad but all right let's do one more gina grant all right. Let's go from one end of the spectrum of people. We don't respect to people we do respect. And it's a it's a. It's a condolence danny ray. He was the man who opened a thousand curtains for james brown. He draped the secret velvet. Cape over james brown Has died at the age of eighty five. Daniel brown ray was born. Nineteen thirty five birmingham alabama and his death was confirmed by james brown's daughter who called him the original hype man. And i'm going to play you a clip where i think we can all agree that that's true Raise cape protein started in one thousand nine hundred sixty two and helped. Cement browns flamboyant image even before he catapulted to worldwide celebrity as the godfather assault. You always do the where he's you know he can't get up and the cape's draped around him. It was just this great performance but he gets less credit for being the man who bring james brown on stage. And here's a clip of one of many of these appearances. Know one thing you ready for the super brother ready for the super brother. Music peas black dynamic heritage music music music for the third world. The gentleman foot super probably fell. He's got a bag of his own. Ladies and gentlemen so but one that'd be the worst person in the world my mom. My mom would be like debatable. A lot of people think my son's funny but he's i think he's well. I don't know if he's here because he has to be anyway Obviously we disagree on many things politically but he was. He's kids are one of them. Likes them so even though we didn't really know he was funny when he was growing up even though we lived in a small house together we denver but now apparently others will pay to hear him. Talk which is so different so foreign for us but maybe know another side of him but anyway he said going to be out here. He's gonna do an hour and You know should some of that. I i have not familiar with the material. But i think i i think probably disagree with a lot of it but anyway My son alan sir. Sorry i'm not used to public speaking Advocacy yeah anima was gonna come up here. And i don't know wow used quite the right term but you're here so i guess you like him. I anyway allen out of your stepdad. John c back seeing the green room. Okay affected okay. All right Well my corollas his father's name and we're divorced so but he still i hear areas and we're gonna enjoy we're going to joy much of the act as it takes us to get out to the lobby. Because john wants. He wants a lot day and then what we'll do is we'll this all right here. Yeah that'd be my momma. Oh my god great. Cry would sat as i would. I would pay more to go see that show. Yeah i'd like to see that. That's i mean that's classic. Dennis prager said to me when we're doing this event in in arizona. He said when he was like twenty it came out the bulk or something and they came out like a big cardboard cutout picture of him and he should his mom took the big cardboard promotional book thing cardboard cutout picture and and put it in the house where they lived in brooklyn and he said. Does your mom have a big picture view in her house. And i said my mom doesn't have a picture of me in her head. Yes she'll be missed even though she geographic you got it. I'm gina grad and. 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340: The Legally Blonde Deep Dive

The Popcast With Knox and Jamie

1:16:22 hr | 1 year ago

340: The Legally Blonde Deep Dive

"Where's this alternate universe? Where pool boys where there's a sexuality attached to it because I don't. I don't have that cleans pool not a very sexy well. You don't have the right pool boy. Pool boys are like at pools that have cabanas mind as a gentleman and he limps. Hello Welcome December. Three forty of the podcast Armando stocks McCoy. And I'm your host Amy Goldin. The podcast is a show dedicated to the life of seeing. We're committed to educating you on the things to entertain but do not matter to find out more about these cinematic perceives check us out and knocks you dot com. You can also find us on instagram and facebook at the podcast and we're on twitter. Podcast pod guys. Thanks for joining us. This week as we are going to be recapping rewatching reconsidering legally blonde. But before we do that you guys. I don't know if you've heard but Knox's second B word all things reconsidered is now available for preorder. Wherever you get your just right. 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I ordered the bone. Hardwood floor cleaner. And we're so excited to have the sparkling clean floors. Bona is ready to use. Just spray mop. And you're done. It's been recommended by flooring professionals since one thousand nine hundred and it safe for all sealed polyurethane finished wood floor. The water based cleaning formula drives fast and has residue free as well. Bona Hardwood floor. Cleaner is available at most retailers. Where floor cleaning products are sold on Amazon and Bona Dot com also available for other hard surface floors like stone tile laminate final. Lv T for cleaning tips and exclusive offers visit bona dot com slash bona clean. That's bona dot com slash bona. Clean now back to the show. Hi Jamie So as we are known to do from time to time we like to hunker down on a specific topic and this week. We're going to talk about Legally Blonde Gosh. I'm so excited because this conversation I we had this as a cinema side piece sharing this with the world. Now I love this because the timing of this. We did this last year for our Patriot supporters. But what I love about. This conversation is now. We're on the. We are on the cusp of getting legally blonde. Three legally blonde haunts perhaps I. I don't know that we're going to get that. Here's long to learn so legally blonde if you go on there I m D pay IMDB page. The poster is says Legally Blonde Valentine's Day twenty twenty. Okay that's okay okay alright come out but GM has tweeted that the movie comes out a May eighth confirmed they're like may eight two thousand twenty but no one else. There's been one picture. That reese witherspoon has posted of her in a bikini right and apparently her friends from college are coming back. Like one of them was not even an actor anymore honestly but no one's really talking about it now to be fair. Reese Witherspoon has had a lot going on. Listen I I think I had gotten this idea. That reese witherspoon. Just didn't work a lot anymore Schwartz all the time. I think she'd never sought work because right now. She's promoting little fires everywhere. That's right which we talked about in the more. You know this week for our supporters because we talked about kind of Tv shows or. Maybe he's coming in March but I'm interested in How she feels about in the end is. Does this become legally blonde a huge success? Or is this like her. This means war. 'cause like Michael Jordan. Ah Wizards Jersey shooting jump shots. Like forty pounds overweight. I HOPE NOT. I hope not. But we'll we'll find out and that's okay But you mentioned we so we did this a year ago. We did this for patients. Whereas when if you guys don't know Would you say pieces every single month? Where he take A movie and we like just breakdown recap and that's what you're gonNA listen to here for example last week We recorded this piece for national treasure. And if Outta the over under on Nick Cage impersonations at six. Would you've taken the over or under? I would've taken the under now? Always take the over nations so many depots debt and I both did a great job. I think you started to and I was like well. That's that's what we're doing that that's what we're doing that's fine. So you're gonNA hear his breakdown Legally Blonde I think You know we got some feedback. I think a lot of were little precious about this movie. You know and yeah. I don't think we really enjoy it. But we're you know we're critical of some aspects because you know that's what we'd like to do with movies but fundamentally would love it so I think you'll hear that coming through so don't forget that As you listen so you're listening to that we're GONNA bust in a little bit with a couple of ad breaks and then we'll catch you on the other side with our lights alot. Welcome to this very special episode of cinema. Signed peace joining me as always someone who when she dresses up like a frigid B word. She tries not to look so constipated. Ab Golden All. Right you guys before we begin cinema. Five feet isn't episode series where we dive movies with equal parts acute tender love and care and a little bit of fodder for this specific episode. We will be discussing. Two Thousand One wreath Witherspoon showcase legally blind. And if you WANNA fall on you can watch this on Amazon. You can watch this. I watched it on Youtube Here's can I ask you a question. Why do you have on? Why do you have Emma's on prime and you pay for it? Yeah and it's gone up to six thousand dollars a year but you can't get Leelee bond could legally blonde two because it's just not available right now like you sometimes. It is sometimes not legally blind right now. Doesn't have a streaming deal with anybody so you have to pay no matter where you're GONNA get. We'll Amazon just deal with that. Like just I get so mad when I pay for prime and then I go on there and like I did say fifty cents because it's two forty nine on Fandango now but I did pay for. Sd Yeah Good. This feels like a one you'd need. Hd I can attest to that I feel like it wasn't shot in HD. No I don't think it was. It wasn't shot with a lot of things in mind. That's right that's right. Yeah so Legally Blonde this. This takes me back. I haven't watched this. You know actually. I think. I watched this like six months ago on TV. Ashley flipped it on and I was going through it. I remember thinking this doesn't feel that bad. This was like a kind of holds up a little bit right now after your entire rewatch. Do you still feel like that. I think some parts of it definitely hold up are actually beautiful messages for women and for me particularly and then there's things about the movie in terms of how it was Cassen how the screenplay was written that dates at very significantly. Yeah it's it's certainly dated. And that's something I never. WanNa hold it against the movie when I'm watching it almost twenty years later and there's some ham-handedness or stylistic choices or whatever but there there was an aspect to this movie that was. Like nascent feminism. Yeah and I don't think they nailed it but it was like they throw a bunch of the wall and they're like some of these were really on some of these. Were not hopefully this. Is that game well? I think they did a better job than anything else in the early ought did. I've trying to be feminist particularly this vehicle which feels like. Oh No it's GONNA be a ROM COM DOT COM. That's going to be about pretty ditsy girl getting the guy when that's not really what this movie is at all. No because when you think about this movie like your if you'd explain it to to an alien what would you say this is about? I think this is a comedy film about a girl who tries to win back the love of her life by getting into law school and following him across the country natural relatable plot. Sure they do. I you know the thing that I took away with. I think it's it is about feminism. But it's not about feminism. Okay go with me. Just trust me. I'm a guy I know what I'm talking about sheriff's going but I think when you really get to this movie. It's it's really a movie about identity in feminists clothing. Something sense yes. I think it is about identity because for me when I watched this movie. Here's the thing. I went through a stage in college where I thought if you're going to be smart which I really wanted to be smart and I went to a school where everyone around me was really smart and everybody was going to law school or Med school. And I wasn't and I always felt like. Oh No am I the elwood's in this situation right but it was because I thought I could not be obsessed with feminine things and be considered smart and powerful and I wanted to be smart and powerful and so the thing I love about. This movie is that she takes that concept which is pretty sure it was pretty true for women for really long time is that you had to adopt the qualities of a man in order to be powerful and make your way ahead in the world and so. I like that. A woods went none. You can be feminine and loved them and in things and still be a powerful person. Yeah and I think the movie does a good job of on. The periphery are powerful women. You've got professor strong. While you've got Brooke Wyndham you've got the prosecutor at the you got the judge all women characters right so In the background you see like it's not a while maybe women can be powerful one day like it's already there. The the the power structures there How true how true the story so it was written by It was based on a book written by Amanda Brown. Who built the story she had gone to Stamford Law School? She herself was obsessed with Reading L. Magazine. Which is why the characters named L? And she went who she went to a women of Stanford Law Event and was so excited and she said I went to the meeting and these were not mind women. These were really angry. Women the women who were leading it spent three years at Stanford trying to change the name semester to investor which is a hat tip in the She said I started laughing and realized everyone in the room took it very seriously so I had made no friends and law school and so she started writing letters to her family to say like I don't fit in here and through those letters she. She decided to adapt it into a manuscript and she sent it to an agent and the manuscript was on paper. And that's why it's still out to the agent and so I liked that. This is really based on Amanda Brown's Real Experiences at law school and that's a nice hat did back later on when L. Does the same thing with Callahan Okay so let's talk about the principal elements. Let's talk about a Wami through. I know the director. He's a bit of the Bra cat. She's gone on to some other things but primarily this kind of begins and ends with the main star of the movie reese Witherspoon. She is at this point. She has just gotten married. She's so young but she's not young. You've been married at five years at her age. So she had gotten married to Ryan Phillipi. She met on the set of cruel intentions which seems like not the greatest place to get married but she is already been acting for ten years so this was a power maeve although she was not the first cast this. Maybe when it was originally made was offered to Tori Spelling Tori. Spelling turned it down because she wanted more serious roles. That's so funny to say the GOPHERS Tori spelling perfect. Like it's perfect is the. I knew she should've taken it. I get what she's going for. Plays in no. She would have been perfect. It was offered to Christina applegate. Who for the same reasons said? She felt like she was only playing blondes and wanted to end. She'd been doing that for so long. I'm married with children that she didn't want to do that again. And we stopped with Christina. Applegate oh I need that to stop motion fourth to cancel credit all those in favor. Please say I And then what I love is just listened to the next in line who this was offered to you who all past Katherine Heigl Gwyneth. Paltrow Okay Alicia Silverstone see that one I could buy could make. The case of the legally blonde is really clueless to yeah for sure. And then Shirley's Erin. What yes the Heaven. And that she's like number eight or seven on that. I want to see that. I wish I would have happened because I want to see Charlie's there and play ditzy. Did you say the Rona Theorin? I did say there in time because you told me to learn how to be a better person. I don't respect it though. I wish he'd been ignorant. So here's the thing so this was a really this was a coup for reese really in many ways and what happens to her because of this she ends up being able to do some really great things but the director said he finally pursued her because of her turn in election because he was like everybody seeing this character wrong. They're seeing it as the ditsy blonde and I see it as something different than this. And so he was like he watched election and thought this is something she could actually do. 'cause Elwood's is really just a commercialized version of Tracy Flick Right. Oh that's darker grittier movie houses. What if she was more bubbly? And you can't understate the extent to which reese Witherspoon as bubbly in this movie. It's really it's I think it's why she becomes nicest actress in America. Would because you talked about her run because this is two thousand and one so she has Let's see she's Pleasantville cruel intentions election and she's pretty much cemented girl next door right right desirable person she did American psycho. I don't remember her in that. Yeah was that a big. It was very small part. That's a crazy movie. I just feel like an very Christian. Bale in it of the brain for you She's in a Little Nicky which horrified me into lie to me to no end and then it goes to legally blonde. Okay so I think that's what's what everything's been leading to. And then she goes sweet Alabama and I think I think the work she's doing here. It all leads to walk the line right so it gives her that currency and equity to be able to walk the line. The question though for me is is legally binds that reinforcement at the peak of her powers Probably the IT's probably who we wanted the most from her. Obviously it's not because walk the line. She wins an Oscar for that and then her career truly does tank. I mean it really does to the point where she has to go okay. I need a new plan. Blondes in Hollywood in their thirties. Don't get roles so I have to create my own world for that and so she ends up. And we've we've done a reese witherspoon deep dive on that may see the light of day again And so in that we talk about that but I think for her if not even the height of her powers because it's not like she's powerful before and it's not like she's really powerful for the few years after because she does bad roles after this but it's like it was. I think it was a sign of power that she could have 'cause she knew how to use it because I don't think she had an agent or a team who were being diligent and finding the right thing and she had to fight so aggressively for walk the line role and so it was like it was like her team was not helping her at all and it was like and again teams helping her. She's ninth she's the ninth choice for L. Would yeah so it's by accident and and obviously it's because so many other people said no that she even gets to do that role at all. Let me ask you a different way. because we do an episode and sometimes we'll be like that was great. It was like man which would have thought a little more about that That if it's a hundred degree or one hundred points some says we get like ninety nine out of eighty How much did she get out of? This was their movie where she got more out of. Because I like walk the line to I i. that's not what I think It it takes me probably two or three minutes to get back to. Oh yes she won for that and she's great in it. I think for me. She probably like now. It depends on your age right like for me. Of course it's it's it's legally one because that's I mean she and I are very similar in age and so of course that impacts me in a specific way but I think people who are nineteen. They'll go Arianna did a thing about her when she was in this movie but like in reality. I think now. She's better known for big little lies. She's better known for wild. She's better known for her instagram account. I think her power is greater now. Socially than it ever was as an actress in that role. Sure I would. If it was me I would say she's maxing out with probably for Christmases feel like that's the best reason ever GonNa get. Jj I honestly. I think it's wild or I think it's legally blonde and I think it's interesting because you could see tethering to movies of like this is where elwood's ends up. If she's unhappy with her life she's gotta go walk a trail for a little bit and Shit picture elwood's on the Pacific Crest trail and crushing it and killing it and helping all the people along the way right so I talked to the director for second. He's not really worth mentioning. He did some other things. That aren't really sexy so who cares before do supporting characters. I mean. Honestly because there's not really any supporting characters doing anything good in this. Make the case that there is well. I don't like everybody who loves Jennifer Coolidge in. This is wrong like that character. I gave me so much freedom. 'cause I watch her cringe hurts me very uncomfortable and it's but it's I think it's a nice. Maybe it's supposed to be that because it's supposed to parallel with like look. This is the powerful elwood's beautiful and wealthy and had not. That's look that. Ups Guy was a six point. Eight Jennifer Coolidge is not in that stratosphere but when she bends on snaps. I got spicy. Take The ben is snap is not even functional. Dependence tap is so stupid and I always think back you know. There was supposed to be a whole musical montage than they left out of the movie. And I'm laying I think. Why didn't you leave this out of the Maimi? Oh my God. This is so bad so I don't like that at all either but I like little moments. Maybe it's because I'm watching it now and I know who went to Cartolini becomes but there's little like I kind of love that is he. Cutting the is. Alexander name is with a character named Chutney. I'm in I'll listen. I liked the character Enid. Because she's like I like that. She's like that they said in their. Mons when they're making this movie let's diversity now we're going to base it solely on stereotypes but look at Enid with her curly hair and her and are no makeup. What if we took? I feel like this nano to one zero just in college like Graduate College because of it. Just like that. Edith is Andrea. That's true and they're both super bowl. Look on the topic of Super Bowl people. Why did we have to forty nine year? Old Women playing her sorority friends Jamie. I did wonder like truly. I'm not getting like Is it Margot and Serena right? Sure I know. I don't even know that we really know their names. But Margaret Serena. Here's my favorite part to you. They knew each other in real life and so when they auditioned One of them had already been cast and so the other one went she was going into a screen test with her and so she said. Hey when I go in. Let's pretend we do the same things and we make the same motions when we say things and we'll act like it was an accident in the audition but they'll think it's so cute that you two are so similar that they'll cast and that's exactly what happened. Kudos to them Kudos to them. But it's a worst movie going experience for me. I didn't you know it's funny in that montage at the beginning where you have all of the like the girl on the bike passing the all the classic things about being a sort of hottest person. This movie the girl on the bike. The girl took the funny thing was. There are only blondes. Until you meet that. Brunette that is the best friend who is. It's all blondes. Until her and then it's such a startling Brunette it's like a hurts me. It's an old Burnett. It's an old Brunette with tiny tiny hairclips. I worked your top COP. What's going in your drew. Barrymore and never been kissed. What's happening going on right here? This movie this movie's budget with eighteen million dollars and it makes one hundred and forty million dollars. It was the biggest hit like coming out of a season of like there'd been three or four years where he had been the lowest box office returns and this was the first big summer hit of that decade because the year before it had really no great movies come out of the summer and so it's this thing that will take on a life. If its own it will get a sequel. A third sequel that Reece's not even end. It will get a musical that will win like the musical in London. Like wins like. I don't know theatre. Awards are just make him of no one knows. I know some sort of desk. Like Laurence Olivier like a war for this musical and Manuel Moore saw those. But that's what's so crazy is that this ends up. Being the whole thing that takes on a life of its own because it makes so much money so which is another reason why you could say reese got a lot of power out of it because so many people saw this movie. Sure Yeah because when you think about the landscape movies in two thousand one. It's a very. It's there's not a lot of middle ground movies. It's either like really gritty in weird trading day you have l. sky or you Wasser Zinc and Zealander or Shrek. So I think. Nfl's like in a lot of it was the last of its type of a very On the nose funny movie. There wasn't a lot of like savvy or cleverness to the humor. That's not a criticism. It's a specific kind of movie. You know that we don't really see anymore But it was in Lee kind of with some of the other similar moves and it's also not like what we're going to turn towards as the as the year started to pass suddenly regular comedies made it had to be our comedy sure and so this would have never been made five years later Yemen. That like you talk about a wild year for the for the Wilson Brothers. You've got Lucas Movie He also shows up in royal tenenbaums and this was the year that Owen Wilson did behind enemy lines. Where he was the here was joey. Yeah I do. I don't like him in that. That's good like Luke Wilson this movie. I Love Luke Wilson in this movie specifically what about it? He is the antithesis of Warner. And so you just get that male character who without being like. I know what I'm doing. He feels like he's very like this is just who I am. And therefore it seems really romantic and lovely and seem like a guy plays that role. Well it's because he has that identity doesn't it showing back to Warner has no idea going back to your dissertation. Thank you Warner's name do want it speak like forty minutes on. Warner's name will fill out all the names. I think the rich person Pastiche names that they're using this Huntington Huntington's the Chutney. Van Wilding handwrite craziness. The East Coast versus West Coast Name. I don't hate it. I don't hate it actually love it. I love that there is a Vivian L. Like I liked that there's a Warner Huntington the third her. What was his brother's name? God I wish I had it. I didn't like he was born in the Middle Ages with Eleanor Roosevelt. But I do love. Let me just give a winter? Like a shout out the old lady sitting next to l. At the beginning. And she's like that's to be like and she's like you need to look dysfunctional. What did she say disabled like throwing some crazy shit like it was the main uniform to formed? I think it was deformed. Wow the now this old ladies even go into a place like this because this is like a young sexy. She's reading. I think she was reading. Seventeen magazine with Josie and on the cover. Yeah director call out. Hey guys a quick break to talk about one of our incredible sponsors third. Love third love does bras differently. 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She is competent and capable until she is sexually harassed and then everything is off the table and I think there was something. I don't know what it was in the second watching. And obviously it's impacted by the metoo movement of going. This is a realistic. Look what happens to somebody who is competent. Even when people don't like her and she's like well I've got to carry on she. It's not that she doesn't care that people don't like her. It's like well they don't like me what do I do? I have move on but then when this happens when she is sexually harassed. It's like it floors. Her and I think there's something really poignant about that that helps hopefully out more people have an insight to what happens to people when they are sexual harassment that you can be a competent bold person and then something like that happens and you go. Oh maybe everything I know about myself not true. And that's what happens to kids in them. And I think I think I was. You know I remember watching the first time in thing and This whatever storyline about a guy harassing woman. That's kind of unrealistic at this point in the story cut to know it actually is really how much more prevalent than we thought but I remember you know when you see that part. I think it's so impactful because you have L. Who had no identity Bilton identity and was really cruising with it and then all of a sudden it gets pulled out from under her. And it's like maybe I am just a joke and I've only gotten these things because I'm very very hot in this movie. Because in the movie they've spent the first half of the movie like building up. L. In a way that you go. Oh she's pretty and rich but she's also like kind and lovely and Ernest me and all these things and then suddenly in this moment all of that she starts doubting all of that like. Oh maybe none of that is true and she and I saw some criticism about the fact that she has to have these other people tell her like she has to have the professor in the Nail Salon. Say you're not gonNA LET ONE PRICK CHANGE. Your Future. You know. Or she has to like when she doubts herself in the courtroom. She has to look at Luke Wilson. He has drinker incurred but and they were critic critical of that. And I go well. That's so unfair because all of us need that I mean your first year law student. You're going to look at your guy like that you're going look at the person who's just made it possible for you to argue this okay. I didn't think those were elements to criticize. I did think there was a there. There's a sequence of scenes where they go to see Raquel Welsh who is just throw in two hundred miles an hour and it's and she just shows up for a MIA. She's on meth bath salts but in a classy way and she crushes and dunks and then she leaves and I'm so impressed with her. Yeah very hot in this movie But they're writing back and we've already established she's gonNA use her skill set to empower people because we had the agonizing bend and snap sequence right right well. We know that because she has that. I'm great at this but then we also need to be like. Hey you should help people because you're pretty and smart and like that's great and then she does the. I think I'm discriminated against blondes. It's a weird scene. Shit isn't believed the ex wife because she's Burnett. That's just a call back to that joke. Yeah it's you can tell. It was eighty or audio. You could tell it was strain later on. Yeah just that's but that's the only thought. Yeah I didn't feel like that was considering everything else. I thought it was very consistent in my my favorite recurring trope with these movies with like a significant hero is the proven moment early on and this proved moment early on in the movie was so great because she gets the sales associate trying to rip off thinks. She's a airy dizzy. Blonde and recess dunks on her and it's so great. It's so informative. It's such a great moment because it fits the audience going on. Yeah I don't know what I expect is not gonNA. That's right going to happen here in this movie. Yeah so I think. Blondes won the smooth increase. Ones movie who to you losses movie to me. I'm least impressed. With Warner and the actor. Who Played Warner? Like Warner is classically attractive. He is a solid nine lake for real but the problem even when he's playing like football in the like on the quad at Harvard. His name's Travis and he lives in the deep South is he still not now. You're asking if his name's dwayne Wayne. Okay dwayne still. Hot Like E. W. A. Y. Any DWAYNE DWAYNE so hot. He's nine he's not maybe a nominee this holiday. He's got really good here. He's got really good like there's a lot of things by him that's lovely but he ruins this film because he's not a good actor and I don't think he embodies the sense like I never get the sense that she would change her whole life and follow him across the country because she loves him. I don't buy into that. And so even though I think worked really hard to sell that. And he just seemed like he wasn't great and then I read which made me then confirm that he wasn't great is that he the actor who played him. What was his name? Math Davis math. Who has gone on to be like he was in vampire? Diaries is going to be in. The Vampire Diaries spinoff. That's coming that he had been in love with Reese Witherspoon. Since he was a little boy he was he was like a teenage earn. And they said that. The producers had to keep interrupting scenes because he would bumble on because he was so nervous around her and then he then confessed his love to her and then she explained why have a non month. How baby right over here? That's nursing so we're not gonNA hook up but thank you so much and so the professional after work and I think that's obvious that they didn't have chemistry. No and I think you're right. I don't think the character they didn't write the character earn anything that was all heavy lifting on. Reece's part to be like this is why she's madly in love with this. Do besides is really good hair. Yeah he kind of fits him with my who lost just all the supporting characters. I didn't like any of them. None of them work for me. Blair you. Don't think she did that. Role particularly hated Selma Blair Okay. Because it was like a six year old track like an adult and the only funny parts. He plays preppy girl so good though she is. I don't know I've known some preppy girls and they don't act like that preppy Tennessee girls. Different girls are not east. Coast East Coast. Preppy girls are different breed. But I feel like there's more caliber or more. I don't know verve like she just kind of felt like a petulant child you know Appalachia happy girl swag and it's not just influence that they have. There's a there's a class or something I don't know what I'm saying but But I but I like knowing that they have a relationship. So any of the Sword fighting verbally they have in the looks. Always made me laugh very hard in this movie. No It's good Talking about low key. Mvp So Malecki MVP. And I didn't realize it till the Second Wyatt is how much I think randomly and sporadically that Bruiser Woods adds to this film Like him haven't on top when she puts on her like when she puts on her. Hugh hefner smoking jackets to go to her. First Class. Which sets. That's the to me. Just my opinion. The peak of Reese Witherspoon hotness powers. She she's good wine so close as really angry way when bruiser with like just randomly watching Yo Care Taco Bell like Mommy's getting ready. I don't know those little moments and I don't even like Chihuahuas are so weird looking and nervous. I don't like people like that in real life. So why would I like a dog like that but something about it at every time like when he's in you know it just pops up like even in the courtroom when Chutney is lying and bruiser knows it because he growls? Does he growl? Prisoners knows the spicy. I didn't like all the bruiser. I'm dog guy too much dog. Eat Dog Peel back just a little bit. I loved it so much so we didn't like the talk about is on the nose for me. I love that what else what else is going to watch. It's true MVP. I'M GONNA go. This is hard because there's a lot there's a lot of it's a more rich cast of supporting characters originally remembered. I'M GONNA go the UPS Guy Paulette. Subplot I really liked that. He liked that it was a good be story. I read that the benefits nap was a result of like three weeks. A pitching stories and they didn't know what to do because they needed to fill out that reply. To kind of humanize reese and all also this other character and they were going to do like this long robbed and stuff like that and they couldn't figure it out and that's where they landed on so. I didn't that sequence but I really enjoyed the Bendon stab break. His nose seen I liked the weird sexual tension between them. Even though he's so much more I will say if there is something that Jennifer coolidge does really well. It is make people feel sexually uncomfortable. She yeah listen. I used to watch had two girls that right. Is that what it was called on? Cbs With the Pretty Blonde. And the other one. Yeah cat two broke girls. Was that ready. Let's just let it be. No it's the Lin Manuel Theater. Awards Hebrew Girls Okay. Jennifer coolidge was on that and her role was as an over sexualize like Russian woman. Who lived upstairs from them and it it. She just her. Boobs are out all the time for like six seasons. But she's always making Innuendo and you're just always feeling a little comfortable and it feels like that through sweet spot. It's her teeth that made me uncomfortable. She's always bearing them heavy again. I think that's a sexual move for her. I don't know how that can be a sexual move if this was recast the There's a there's a actress I think in American housewife. It's on ABC. Yeah I think. She's on eastbound down. I think that's who you don't talking about. Yeah she's Hermel Obama is she. She's very southern Syrupy makes them? That's it that's one. That's why I was thinking too Kim What can I add? Superlative here you just let me do this if you don't want to participate so we got lucky. Mvp WHO's the lower key MVP? So something very random like just a brief litter of a mentioned or conversation. I'll go first if you want to think about yours I've got to actually. I've got to just dome. I just thought of this really quick There's a courtroom artist guy who just he's middle aged dude. Who WE WE I mean? Would you agree? We don't have enough like twenties to mid thirties white guys in this movie. We probably need one at least one at least one more like. Let's diversify this little. So He's there Raquel Welch is on the stand. Absolutely leveling waste upon the courtroom with her hotness in her old lady like niceness And it cuts to him about something about somebody. Ali larter somebody topless. You need to get larger and in a second and it cuts to him. He's like Nice. He's like on the Internet when someone makes like a sixty nine joke nice. His face is and he's drawing a picture. Racquel Welch with John. Norma's boobs which is just hilarious perfect but even lower key than that. Luke Wilson's nineteen seventies crown. Vic that he's driving leads point. We did not make sense of why when they pull up to that SPA. They're in such a boxy. Like detective car makes no sense because she literally driving a Porsche which she drove from appears California. Why would you do that? I feel like I I mean I understand about the rich people would have a solution for that. I think she bought a Porsche and then the moving track caught up she was like. Let's get my porsche now. I will say the one of the other reasons I love. Freezer is when she actually pulls out avion and puts an pop up water bowl outside. And that's when I think that's the moment in the movie that you I think you as an audience member go. I have to stay on the team. I've sound team L. Because everything like think about the juxtaposition of she's in a Porsche. She has her dog shark. Pink Sunglasses there's a moving truck behind her with moving men who are going to get all the stuff out so that's like a Harvard law privilege privilege and then she gets out and she immediately. They start mocking her. Yeah and I love that. The movie balances that line of Lake? She somebody that probably relief. You mostly would hate but you don't see the full picture of what how people are making assumptions about her in the same way that you. The viewer are making assumptions about her. Yeah it was. A great savvy way to go about the hero's journey of destabilizing environment for her. Yeah let's do. Can we do best seen? Oh my gosh. So speaking about Hugh hefner smoking jacket. She's got a pom Pom pen. She got heart shape. Note had the first day of class where she sitting on that front row. I love that whole scene. I love Holland Taylor in that scene because she fills harsh. You'RE GONNA get a call back later. That's going to help go. We Emmy Harsh. But she's also human I love that whole that whole classroom counter. That's that's a really good one question for you am I me Knox am. I attracted holiday. One hundred percents. I'm very is if you're if you're sexual awakening is Mona from. Who's the boss than you? Love Holland Taylor. She's like a souped up super hot version of. Mona isn't sure I wasn't ready for that. It was a whole lot of things I think. My favorite was To Tie for first the scene at the Costume Party. She's dressed up. She's been humiliated and Warner She in the summer internship right. And he's like you're not smart enough like really hits it. There's a lot on no stuff that can go either way. But she's like I'm never gonNa be good enough for you. Am I cut to montage? I love we love a montage. I and I love this. She bought a Mac from the stone age orange. Ibook do you remember the Luke Wilson? Why are you at the Bookstore in this college? And why are you driving? It's nighttime on a Friday night or are you making good money or are you not making good money your identify that but all. I think probably the true winner is this is like maybe top five cinematic moment for me in the world is when she gets on the Internet list. She turns around crowd parts and she goes but it's like she's channeling. It's why one of my other favorite montages. This is a good. Maybe for MONTAGES is her admission video. Where she's like. I usually turn legal jargon all the time and then the guy with a letter and it's just so ridiculous but it's also like so lovely and Ernest that that's what she would think would work. Yes so it makes you like her all the more. Yeah Yeah Okay. Jamie does this movie. Pass the Bechtel's okay as reminder for those who are listening. The Bechtel tests is a way that we gauge adequate female representation in a film. It's named after the comic book artist. Alice Bechtel who introduced this test in a comic strip in nineteen eighty five so it has three criteria. You have to have a movie that has at least two women in it got it. We have to have women who talk to each other and they need to talk about something other than a man. I think we got. We got it. This is actually one of the better like because listen a lot of movies early on. Don't don't pass this test well and I would argue that. This is probably one of the better passers of this task. Yeah it's The the the the place where the Bechtel tests usually trips movies with prominent female characters is you'll have the character's talking with each other but always about a man and they're certainly seems where the happen but I specifically remember at least one scene where her or recent Selma Blair. Timeout a party. Just two girls on a party to go to. That's right and there are times where they're just talking about law and there's classroom she's talking to Holland Taylor and but like if you had just left it only Jennifer. Coolidge is the only supporting character than they would not have passed this test for every conversation they have is about Warner or ups guy. Or Yeah Paulie lives that guy polly who lives why. You live in an airstream at the dumpster counterpoint. Your shoes are expensive exam. His hand he does have a great Tan. Well I guess you're coming out of the summer it's like he's the only person in this whole film that adequately represented Boston to me. Did you notice that no one else feels Boston? Yeah you're right Jennifer. Coolidge didn't even try to have a Boston accent like it wasn't even close now. I'm just like in this realizing that. Yeah Paulie is the only one and everybody's like no. We all came from different places. Marky mark like contemplated F word the AFLA in this. We need him we do. He was probably busy Jamie our new superlative. Is there a named minority character? Who isn't advisory or magical this movie? No there is not sadly no we do get an Rica but his literal job is a pool boy. So that doesn't count. It doesn't count. I love you get white guys at the Harvard law admission table who one of them even says. Aren't we looking for diversity? Yes and it's because the blonde girl have fashion merchandising degree and so I would argue that this film. It's almost. It's almost sad especially in the rewatch because now I'm so aware of it and a mad at pass Jamie for not not noticing it. Sure at the time but that that's how we get better right and I noticed that I mean this is probably it's unexpectedly one of the most whitewashed films I've ever seen. There's no real reason for you do the judge Is African American? But she isn't named and I I do think she does fit the. She's less there to be a character and more to advise the plot right. That doesn't count either. Yeah it's like you said inexplicably why there's no reason right. And then the random unnamed black characters you have you have couple of black women in the Salon during the bend and snap who are GonNa add SAS to the White Ladies Bendon staff sadly fit into ignorance stereotype about how they should be acting addressing in that so long. It's like there's one and they're in Holland Taylor's classroom. There's one black student who we never see his face. We see her hit him on the head with a Pencil Grades. And so it's like this is not great. I would also say this is not if we're speaking minority characters. It's not just about race. You also have sadly lesbian character and a gay character who the lesbian character is. The most stereotypical right. It's like oh I I'd I'm you you. I'm sure you call me bad names. I'm only hang out with other women who don't wear makeup we're all like she says she got PhD and Women's Women's studies. Which I like. I got my bachelors and women's so I appreciate that but she got her. Phd Women's with a focus on combat. And then she hits the guy in the circle in when they're learning about each other so that's like the most era typical right. And then you get enrica who and it's a bad moment. Has a tough really bad moment. Where reese she says. It's like her breakthrough in the case that she figures out that in reggae couldn't be having an affair with water because he's gay because she he recognized her shoes right And that's a bad look and even now I feel like some people watch them and be like no. That's not that bad like don't they like more fashion but they know it is bad. It's a while stereotype type. You can't do that now. And it's good for the film like the plot point of it being no he wouldn't have been in love with there. Had to be another way to discover that because listen do I wanNA give up the guy in the in the Galley of the courtroom or check. Yeah Con Enrica the B word which is just like apart from stereotyping and all that stuff anyone calling anyone the B word. I'm on I'm good with right. Not to demeanor stereotype or whatever but. I just a good turnout. Now it's not a dramatic courtroom B Word Let's do let's do. Biggest reach was the biggest reaching the it was a hundred percent that she could score one hundred seventy nine on the L. Sal give the people context is that like. Sat's like sixteen hundred the highest right right. What's the highest on? When eighty you guys she. She took her tasks. Here's the crazy part if you search on the Internet L. Woods L. Sat and what you find are all these test taking evaluation sites that say here all the things l. Did to raise her score. Thirty five points. Here's what you should do okay and it was stupid stuff like give up your social life so you can study more. It's ridiculous people usually like actually do that on the Internet and I love it but there is no way on this planet that she makes one hundred and seventy nine on Al fouts unless we by the idea that she's like White Lady Superhero. If this is a super game for White Women White Blonde Women. Maybe maybe Oh and this is one hundred percent. A superhero fell for white blond lady. Yeah Yeah Mine. I mentioned one that L. has to forty nine year old already scissors. That's insane there. Clearly cops don't even do that biggest reach lauder. Workout video icon. I'm just I'm throwing out there. I think so because she's like Ali larter first came to fame right as a Doritos girl. Is that right? I think that's I don't want to read a split. It's the Brunette Gazali land. I'm alleys now. Now let me think. How did I remember by the Doritos chick is that she was supposed to marry? Acc right and then he cheated on her. Allie Lard Landry. I did have my alleys and out of you that Holly Larter made her film debut in. Oh I'm sorry varsity blues that's right. She's whipped cream girl. She's I forgot about that so I'm sorry I don't want to. I don't want to Besmirch her name by suggesting she's only the Doritos girl when she's technically only the with Ukraine girl. She's whipped cream bikini girl. Thank you Jamie whipped cream. Bikini girl can have a workout empire. Thank you How many followers do you think the Doritos Alley has right now on instagram? One hundred thousand eight thousand. Oh that's sad. I would have thought I wanted. I thought I was really shooting low. You know how many how many more than one hundred thousand I bet. Three hundred twenty four. No good for you Ali Larter. You're the winning alley. Who's who comes harder and faster in this movie. Rocco Wealth Rally Larter. Oh it's Ali Larter. I think you're right. She says liposuction. Dang it's a great moment he is going for the Oscar and no one has told her that she will not let an she's crying. It's so great. Can we talk about money quote? Yes okay so there's a Lotta this probably speaks to. Who would actually get my lois like low key lowest key? Mvp and it is. The It is elwood's dad in a couple moments. Both of which he always has a Martini. Glass Whether he's at his law school graduation or he's by the pool hearing her talk about it but I love that he was like law. School is for people who are boring and ugly and serious and you button are none of those and I think that's a great moment. Line the Green Line from the data. I've got I've got three. I want you to pick for me. What the best one is. It's in the boardroom. At the internship where Callahan says Vivian. Give me some plum sauce as a solid plum. Saw It twice and sexual number. Two Warner sees reese at the costume parties will so don't you look like a walking Felony Oscar. What's that mean? And what did you say you know? Exactly what it means but I think the the runaway winner is l. and Paulette in the car. Post getting the dog back an L. Says I bet he still scratching his head and Jennifer Coolidge? Coolidge says which must be a NAS vacation for his balls. That's a good line the line Jamie. It's funny how occasionally like they let 'em really like like intense Lon Slot Time L. was like sister dot. There was always a good line which character should shallow. Buffet played in this well. Cared doesn't exist but some sort of doogie howser wonder kid. That's in law school but also is only fifteen years old because that's how old travel. Buff would have been almost main okay. So that's what I'm picturing for so I took time off on again time off whenever I do it. You get really bad. No I think you're right because you're basically the Weirdo Dude. Who was hidden? He's the two hotties were hit on him. And he's which is such a weird seem like who does that what. I've never seen too hot girls. Ridicule nerd brass them out. And that's just that's crazy obviously not gone to like high school public high school. Maybe I just. I wasn't aware that many people went to Harvard. Also did you know L would have been a Harvard with Mark Zuckerberg Gos- twins if the timelines thousand one He would have been back care to that. Weird David character so I think it would have been proved a lot. I think it would have been improved. let's do lawsuit. When can I cannot toss in just like a a did feel sad? I felt like that initial group of Douche bags. Yeah and we never got to see them again and I know there are a lot of cut and deleted scenes where like evidently that crew starts a Off Line a bet to see how long L. will ask a running the study group. Okay because there was one guy who's really familiar looking But we never really saw them again and I wish we could have spent more time with them. Now are who some fun facts. My favorite fun fact. Is that the end of this? Movie ended very differently so initially the movie ended with Reese and Luke Wilson Kissing on the courthouse steps after they won the case And and then Elwood's kind of postscript was the L. and Vivian Formed Blonde Legal Defense Club which is not great like. We'll Vivians on exactly so tests. Audience hated it and they said we want to know that her life turned out beautifully. And so we don't just know that this is the end of this moment like this is stupid and so what happened was they said okay. Well we're going to refill but the problem was at this point. Nobody's where they need to be reese. Witherspoon is in England. Filming another movie freckles now by the way freckles and has cut her hair completely You've got Luke Wilson who has already shaved his head because he's going to be in. What was the Royal Tenenbaums? So it's and so. There're parts if you watch it now you don't know it 'cause there's some things that are really well done but like some of the like. She's looking lovingly at Selma Blair from the speech that she's giving it. Graduation will some Blair that was filmed in a completely different time. She's not in the room with her players in California filming that thought of it so she's not seeing any of those people with Wilson's not in the room. None of that's true. Herwig is so bad her wigs so bad she's wearing Prada and Gucci and Fendi and they could not get her a better wig. Here's the thing though. I feel like it's redeem because Luke Wilson's wig is divine. I thought it was the greatest here. Tell that has wiggins bat. Tell that's right. I was stunned by her. Wig IS SO tragic end. Listen I know. She has now moved across the pond. She's had to carry that baby with her that she's breastfeeding and up all night and then also having to film the importance of being Ernest which is a bad film and she doesn't know it yet. Herd goes to cancel her dark circles. And it's such a great moment. When warner grabs her and that's the thing they refilmed right it's her saying to warner you know. Well if I'M GONNA make partner about thirty I'm GONNA need a bonehead boyfriend rayburn and it's a great burn. But she looks so tired she does. She has. Nobody's sealer on her. She looks bad. And it's a bad moment like it's just a bad tacked on scene when it could have been fantastic if we had just gotten her makeup artist. That's I feel like. They let her do her makeup and they forgot she was going to be in front of life. The nudie person quit because even I noticed the freckles. Shiatsu like liver spots. Because you're so stressed out about the role which let me ask this question. What was more book wild in this movie the fact that she got a I counted I did the math. She got a one minute and thirty one second ovation for fifteen second Valedictorians speech at all. Along that Valedictorian speech was edited for time. We didn't get to see all. Have you ever seen an ovation long? They loved her. She's very lovable to along with her with that wiser so happy that they're leaving law school. You'll clap for anything. That's probably true. Was that wilder or the water. That Ali Larter so like in reggae. unveils himself and She goes back to jail for the next day. Selma Blair and then a Callahan. Hits Reese Witherspoon. She's like I'm out. This sucks your Boehner's And then someone Blair and Luke Wilson show up to the courthouse and Ali. Larter is looking at Lee Jackson if they get this wrong right and they're like Coca Cola tight where's l? What's going on here? How do we saw an alley? Large like I just want her to be happy like you might die. You might get murdered if you get this wrong. So let's get that. No one will know about my life section like she. She has been in law school for six months. I think she should take this case over. That's crazy you wanNA suspend disbelief a little bit. You Got Victor Garber who is sexually harassing people we've above Arbor don't even masculine comment. Victor Garber African about my beloved is her favorite. Victor Garber alias. My favorite Victor Garber is ruining the titanic. I think always also always thinking. He didn't everything. Because you know what he convinces me that. He's a ruined some he's about to like he's GonNa like rape ellwood rates. He doesn't even like girls. That's why you'd God not at all that man and Oscar thank you. He's all right. Let's finish up in grade the movie Jean. What are you give this grade did you? From fact way it may not make it but One of the things. That reese witherspoon put in her contract is that she got to keep every piece of clothing from the film veteran and so now that she has just announced that there will be an official legally blonde. Three that comes out like February next year She like on her instagram. Put on one of those outfits and was like it still fits Affleck's excellent flag. Soga we shall. We have disclosed that we did. See Reese Witherspoon here. Live in Birmingham tour and it was very resource. Greece was great. The tour itself was garbage and someone did. She didn't interrupt. But she kind of interrupted reese and went onstage wearing a legally blonde outfit. And she she did. She had like that says she was. It was tough argue. That grade skilled one zero to one hundred so I would have given a higher but watch this not dot points for poor stereotypes and no quality diversity in film and so I had to give it like I gave it like a seventy nine. Yeah Yeah I would I I was. I was landing eighty-three same reasons. I honestly I feel like this movie is a terrible movie but for reese and it's such a like NBA Jam. She's on fire moment that she carries it. Take a look at the original rotten tomatoes score. It is sixty nine percent because most critics didn't think that it was I think here's the consensus There the material is predictable and formulaic. Reese WITHERSPOON IS FUNNY. Nuanced performance make makes. This may be better than it would have been you know in a Lotta ways. Feels like a Kate Hudson and how is a guy role just carrying it because she's so lovable and hot in like funny I what what would the rotten tomatoes score be with spelling? Oh is it about twenty no ten. Is it about five maybe Taylor under twelve percent Iran later you imagine her trying to bend and snap with Jennifer Coolidge. It would've just been so much pain to what. Oh my Gosh Jennifer colleagues. Like her mom. It's weird that's well. Let's be honest. Reese Witherspoon because in a different direction. 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We need it posted download posts and save with code pop gas. Okay back to the show guys. That was our breakdown of legally blonde I think we enjoyed what rewatching reconsider again. A Reese Witherspoon. Um We'll be back doing more Throughout this year. But if you enjoy that Michigan next Jimmy accomplish pay John Jamie. Would you like to some? Well let's just. What is Your Red Light this week? Okay my red light this week. I'm just GONNA I'm GonNa just she straighten. I hate winter. Okay I'll I hate winter at the beginning like you don't hit all seasons equally but you do. This win wins this different for worse season. Like I don't like it being cold a- or dark or rainy or snowy I would like snow. We haven't had snow but I don't like snow either I don't like that. It's hot inside because someone who rents an office in this building probably named Hannah who was always called does call Scarves I throw blankets. I don't like socks in bed. I don't like that my bills are high. I don't like that I have to wear pants against my will I don't like the everything has to warm up to function like the car and maybe a don't like any of it and I'm just over it and I'm glad that winter on paper in this month yeah well off side of climate change. Is THAT WINTER. Like we'll give weirder and not colder. Well it'll get more unstable. Yeah this has been the wind. This has been my least favorite winter ever just not bringing anything to the table south not to have winner. It'd be clear this is why here so we don't have winter and guess what all it did was rain. It just rained for so many like I need. I need corporations to do better so it does rain so much. I listen to that daily to. Hopefully they will this. Winter has been like Like a house. Gas Comes your party. But they don't bring snacks or anything. There's here is like you know he's got a little bit showed up without even like a two liter not good. This is not good end. Look if you love winter. Winter is your favorite season. I WanNa know you understand. You don't understand like so in the comet CODA instagram. We'll have posted about this episode. I want you to tell me why winter is good and maybe help me understand why you love. I'm trying to do. I love winner. I think I love winner. Utah No way you love. I think love every spring. I don't like spring. I don't like playing a jacket and can you sneeze and stuff but every other you have like a body that's betrayed you do but do you think winter out of like ranking. Where would you rank? Winter? It's not forest but it can't be first or second man I don't know I love summer because You let it more than far more than I don't know because I don't necessarily love the like the physical components of all with all brings to me. You know what is winter? Bring to us at Christmas darkness in coldness and I do like those things. I do really enjoy those read. Murder Light is hot pockets. Okay Jamie hop on the news recently. Right now for good reason It's not about how Gretchen wieners. Look that's all I can think of ever. You get the hot pockets. Heiress has been arrested. You cannot stop thinking about Toaster strudel but it's not about HOT POCKETS BEING DISGUSTING INSIDE. Pizza pods discussing their sadness about that. That has that exists. That that's not Atypical for now. This is about the hot pockets heiress Michelle genevieve's of Vaz's or something. What is her last night She sentenced to prison For her role in the Varsity Blues Prison Scandal. A real thing that is still happening I in general. I'm kind of confounded by the whole varsity blues thing continuing to go you know because it's like really well. I don't know if like we're obsessed with punishing them because they're rich but like they spent their money in a stupid stupid way and we're okay with people spending it in like not stupid away. Yeah but She's going I think for five months. I've mass which is tough which is tough. Which what do you think this means for Aunt Becky? Oh I think it means five months because I got like what like two days for like two hours. Eleven days yeah but it was lesser soft and I felt like she was always pretty cooperative. Admitting Guilt Michelle last name redacted and I am Becky. They're like no. We're not guilty even though they definitely guilty soph- I think becky paid more money. Then hopped lady that I really pay like two hundred thousand dollars to fake. Her kid was like a volleyball. This a weird thing. All these parents are paying all this money to USC. A place who sports or trash and it's like you don't have to be a good athlete like have you seen the football team to just walk on and like you're a trash that's how they're getting their kids admitted because they can't get their kids admitted any other way unless they do one of the Lesser Sports. Yeah I said it lesser sports sailing even the major sports socks. So you don't need someone to be like he's Nath don't just roll in and you'll probably be like same athletic level like it's really confusing. But I did go to the hot pockets twitter account. 'cause I want official statement? The hot pocket twitter would give you an official statement if not then why am? I GonNa get Jamie and What I got was This is spelled out like I can't this audio format so I can't like properly communicate what happened there but it's You know. Spongebob like means where it's like letter. Knock capitalized and capitalize irregularly. Yes that's what we're the meeting were paying with. And it says hot pockets are hot. You have to provide the heat in quote. That's it that was that was the response states who the sentencing of the heiress. So yeah so there's GonNa be present in this. Oh I think there's a subtext there that like you have to be a little smarter than we are. Turn to them about how much you're hot pockets worth like. What is the like how much money you have? If you're the hot pockets so I know how much you got how. Well I know how much they sold for. Okay how'd you like to get even? They sold the hot pockets yes and they made many hot pockets like was a big old bustling business and they're like we're ready to go to market and sell the haters apprised. Aaron. I want you to guess too. They were ten million dollars. They sold the company's over ten million dollars. I'm smiling because that's so wrong but I'm normally the one whose bad at this so it's a sympathy smile on a lot of money. I would say I would say what are you talking about? I'd take the money right now. Aaron how much do you think you already helped her? Because you said how ridiculous it was. You're right I did. Two point eight billion. That's the answer that is Google. Then that's real eight billion dollar bills the freezer rat now that's like two billion and she was paying two hundred thousand to fake her kid was. I would do that for twenty thousand one right now. Build the building at the school and be like I wanNA legacy entrance as a company. We will create a video package a podcast dedicated to a child to prove they are a varsity athlete. I'm putting on table. Please let us know. Email us right. Now what's your green light this week? Okay my green light now. You mentioned the passing but you didn't officially green light. It's I'M GONNA officially. Which is the MIC millions? A series on. Hbo Holy Cow. So guys this is. Six episodes five have aired It ends it. Finale is next week or this week. It within so it is e series that is documentary about the McDonald's monopoly. Game Scam that occurred between nineteen ninety nine and two thousand one right. Which by the way I did. I remember at all really see. I remember too because like I was a kid up until I was like in college a little bit more devious mind so I was like. How do we do this? We serve it was perpetrated by an ex-cop Jerry. Jacobson you guys. Every character in this Docu series is a delight every character on TV. Right now bows down. Agent Doug Managing Doug He is a delightful on diagnose. Add Persona and listen visually. It's not sending there's nothing special happening in this Docu series. It's a little star lines. It is a little you know what I mean. But it's every person in the show that you just go. Why can't wait till they come back? Yeah I can't wait till they come back in the fact that they got interviews with people that it does not even make sense that they got interviews with them like. Why would this person agreed to be on the stock series? It's so good now I will say there is a podcast that accompany companies that do not was by got at any depth to it at all. So you can skip the podcast. Yeah but this lake it is got. It's real I was waiting to finish it to to green light at all right. No it's okay it's okay. It's it's worth it people got to know. It's a really really good Migrant is the movie the gentleman to hang with Matthew mcconaughey at the local cinema. It's got the guy played jax teller And Sons of anarchy Charlie Hunter Valley Guy Henry Golding. It's God's Shall Dockery Shall Dockery Downton Abbey. Who like my sense of her was not like she's a very attractive? Like sexy lady. She's actually is that in this movie. I was very I was very confused about that. it's it's got Probably One of my favourite Colin Farrell performances. In a long time. He's really good. And it's got Jeremy Strong. Who is throwing six thousand miles an hour? He's what is characters name is Can ALMOST KENDALL JENNER? Which would which would have been shade? Sorry about that Germany. Strong Kendall in The rich people fighting family succession. Thank you sorry He's really good in this It's a it's a typical. Like I think Guy Ritchie I. I don't think he can make anything bullock one kind of movie sharp when he makes movie. It's real good. It's very. He's good at the highest. Yeah he and and that's what this is in the way they tell. It is very interesting but you know who the MVP of this movie is. Hey it's hugh grant no way. Hugh grant is incredible in this movement. I Love Hugh grant of never like seen a movie and been like Man Hugh grant really bringing it but in this movie he is bringing it. He's creepy he's weird. He's constantly sexually harassing Charlie. Hunnam in movie. He's sleazy. I think sleazy Hugh grant it's like isn't that who want. Isn't there a part of it so it was like we like these solicited that prosecutors own it my man and he's only in this movie. It's really really well. I can't wait to see it Okay that's going to for this episode of the podcast guys. Remember before we go anytime. You do shopping on Amazon. Make sure to go to Amazon. Dot Com slash shop flash. The podcasts verse. So you purchase us are fairly Lincoln for one hundred percent using this week was doing we. 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Every like we're in so intentional about what we're trying to do in our performance and it felt like. Melanie rolled in in roller uninvited. To showed up. And somebody just said you got a story about you. Know like a tractors. And she's like she goes five minutes in. You're clutching your stomach. You cannot breathe your chest. Her and Sophie both. It's it's it's very upset if I didn't love them as much as I did. I did so frustrated with them and the writing in this all of the chapters. It's just a book of essays which are stories like each chapter is about a topic like on the bright side of technology. Skincare parenting being married. Like it's really fun. This she's a writer who that I think. It's like five of chapters. You know like authors will put quotes. That are really inspirational. Chapter quote in there you know. She quotes herself in like five or not because he thinks he's awesome is because it's useful areas. Yeah and I love the cover amazing. It's a great but all right you guys. I'm Jamie Golden. You can find me on twitter. Instagram facebook at Jamie. I'm not score you find on the social and knocks McCoy and you can pre-order my new book. All things reconsidered anywhere. Books are sold guys. Thanks for listening. We'll see next time.

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Julie Rice  Co-Founding SoulCycle, Taming Anxiety, and Mastering Difficult Conversations (#372)

The Tim Ferriss Show

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Julie Rice Co-Founding SoulCycle, Taming Anxiety, and Mastering Difficult Conversations (#372)

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You'll find all sorts of offerings and goodies at made by we including on demand work in meeting space. It is truly beautiful. He's check it out coffee and artisanal food by bluestone lane a fully equipped market stand. Full of snacks peril. Travel office products plus curated events evening programming. That's what I was part of and more. So if you want to try out, we work, if you want an alternative to working in your bedroom, or at your home, office, aka kitchen, table, or in coffee shops, this might be the easiest way to dip your show in the water. You can try it out by the hour or even by the minute instead of a monthly ongoing membership. Check it out at made by weei dot com and full disclosure. I am an advisor to we work. Julia rice who's truly rice she's an entrepreneur best known for co founding. The fitness phenomenon soul cycle. Reis Irvy's as co-ceo at soul cycle from two thousand six to two thousand fifteen before joining we work in November two thousand seventeen as a partner racist. Life's work has been about building community. We work Rice's approaching everything through the lens of community. She's focusing on we works brand the experience. We work provides its members and seeking new and innovative ways to grow and share that we work experience around the globe. And a common thread that we're going to explore is connection and we're gonna get into all sorts of details and tactics relate to that rice lives here, and your city, where husband Spencer and their two daughters. She is a board member of the public theater and Weight Watchers as well as an advisor to the Women's Club, the wing, you can find her on social media Instagram at Julie rice underscore, tricky at underscore, and on Lincoln. As Julia rice. Welcome to the show and thank you for being here. Thank you for coming to visit. Although this is your home. So thanks for having you visit and we're going to jump all over chronologically, which is my my habit. I try to turn that bug into a feature. We'll see how I do and flashback to childhood Suber you will behave child. Or do you have any memories of misbehaving getting in trouble? So I was super well behaved child, like borderline nerd, actually, I was the kid that didn't have a curfew because I actually called my parents before it was time to come home to let them know when I would be home, but I did get in trouble once in a very big way. And I will tell you what happened. I decided I wanted to get a second piercing in my ear. And my mother said, absolutely not. I was eleven years old. And that was completely inappropriate to have a second piercing in your ear. And I had one friend. She. My most rebellious friend, her name was Laura. And we decided to take the bus to the White Plains, Galleria mall, and we were gonna get our ear, pierced anyway. And so we did we took the bus, and she convinced me that it was no big deal in my mom, wouldn't even see it. So I just came home and put my thing over my hair, and, you know, my mom, actually did notice it. And so I told her I actually think she noticed it. I was actually such a nerd, I told her, I couldn't do it for more than five minutes, telling her that I'm at your pairs. So I, I admit that I got my Pearson, my mom decided that great punishment for me. Well, I call the woman who pierced my ear to explain that you actually couldn't put holes in the body of minors without parental consent. And the women didn't seem to really care that my mom thought that. And she said, well, if you don't like it, then you should sue me. So I'm decided that she would. And my daughter lesson. She decided that she was going to sue her for eight dollars and ninety nine cents the entire contents of my piggy Bank that I took to get my earpiece that I was going to have to take the stand. Yes, that's exactly what happened with my punishment. My mom went to the library, and she was her own lawyer. And she figured out that, yes, in fact, you could not Pierce, the body of a minor without consent. And then I had to go to court and get up on the stand as the most terrified eleven year old that you have ever seen to tell them. Yes. I disobeyed my parents gone to the Galleria mall and gotten a second piercing home mom. So what did your parents do professionally? My dad was a phys Ed teacher. And my mom was she had actually an antique business when people move from homes or estates. She appraises the contents and sells them off. She's kind of like an art historian, and you said, white plans. So where did you grew up? I grew up in Westchester New York Westchester or it's we're going to flash forward as promised to a year before soul cycle. Could you paint a picture for us? Where are you? What's going on in life? Life. Yes. So I have had this is just about my third career I started out my first career was I worked in the movie business as a kid, I had always been obsessed with theater with musical theater. That was always kind of my thing. I loved entertainment, and I always wanted to figure out a way to work in the movie business. And I remember coming home, you know, my sophomore year of college and saying, to my dad, who was a gym teacher and my mom who worked in teak business like, don't you people know, anybody, I need an internship somewhere? This is never going to happen, unless we know somebody. And my dad recall that he had worked with some women, whose husband ran a kid's talent agency cut, too. I got some internship and long story short. I did find my way into the movie business and I worked in New York for about eight years as a commercial agent, and then I kind of figured out that if I really wanted to go to the next place in my life, I would need to go to California. And so I went to LA and I became a manager in Los Angeles. And I did that for about ten years. And after ten years, I kind of flash forwarded ahead to what people's lives looked like you know, in the entertainment business, servicing clients all the time kind of, really being a prisoner to a lifestyle of servicing people, and although I loved artists, which is what I was always in it for I really thought to myself, like, I'm kind of ready to go back to the east coast. I'm kind of ready to make a change, and I came back to the east coast. And I my husband and I both went into our offices on the same day at the time. I met my, my husband in Los Angeles. He was agent at William Morris, and I was working for management company. And we decided we were going to head off for sort of nobler professions and head back to the east coast. Keep it real. And we got up one morning. And we lived in Malibu at the time it was sort of, like our swan song. We decided to move to Malibu on the beach because we knew we were gonna head out of the west coast, and we got up one morning, and we said, okay. Today's day like we're both going to quit our jobs and we're going to tell everybody goodbye and like we're going back to the east coast and. My husband and I we left that morning and he came home, and I came home at the end of the day, and we had to go, and he said, oh, yeah. Everybody said, you know, great job. Thanks lot. Whatever. And you know all good. And I said, oh, well, they told me that they were going to move my assistant month ahead of me and that I should take a month on the road, and then I could do this isn't York if I wanted to, and then I started thinking, like, how are we going to pay our rent? So I kept my job. So basically, the picture was that I came back to New York, and I was running in New York office for the agency that I'd worked for in Los Angeles. And I was still working in the movie business. And I was really. Having a better time doing it here, but definitely beginning to think about kind of what's next. I mean I'd been thinking about what was next already when I was thinking about leaving the west coast. And the one thing that was really going on for me here in New York was that in LA, you know, so much of my life had been tied up in lifestyle pursuit. I went hiking with my friends, I belong to a running club. We lived at the beach. And when I came back to New York, there was just nothing here that was lifestyle fitness was really about going to a big box gym burning calories, having somebody yell at you about, you know, where you beating the person next to you, could you push harder. You know how could you get it done quicker and more efficiently? And you know, it's interesting cut to two thousand and six there was no green juice in this city. There was no boutique fitness. There were a couple of yoga studios, but certainly what's going on? Today was not what was going on. You know in two thousand and six New York. And so, for me, there was a real void even though I was desk. It to come back to the east coast and be with my family. There certainly was a void in what I had experienced in Los Angeles in terms of lifestyle. So I wanna talk about just for a moment, managing talent. So what is what does a manager do and based on what you just said, which boy said several things, but one of which was they said, great, we'll give you a bunch of time off and can, then pick up with your job, you, I would imagine. We're good at that job. What does it managed to do what we're some of your better bets or better decisions as a manager? Sure. So a manager an agent is responsible for getting actors jobs and publicist is responsible for making sure that people know about those jobs and a lawyer is making sure they making that don't get screwed over in the contracts for those jobs and kind of what a manager does is think about big picture. You really think about who that person is who they want to be in the world. What I learned actually from being a manager is really thinking about creating a brand for a person, you know what is that person's brand? What does it? How do they walk through the world? What do they stand for? What do people think about when, when they think about an actor and actress everything from their fashioned the things that they endorse to, you know, the way that they talk in interviews, and really thinking in terms of, how do I plan a career not just a job to job for this person? And. When you get to LA or got to LA you transition to this, this job. As a manager were there, any, any particular wins or fines from the perspective of talent, people, you chose to work with ended up working with the come to mind, if you can talk about them. I definitely can. Well, I will definitely say that. I think that one of my sort of better skills in life is picking people. I agree. Very good people picker. I think I've, I've, I've just about the greatest husband. I chose a fantastic business partner, and I feel actually very lucky in my life with my friends, and the people that are around me are all dynamic, and really feed me and in very specific ways, but I've always been a good people picker. And I genuinely love people and what I really love is I love the nuances that make people, the people that they are, and those little things about people that are special or things that I feel like I can really see and something that I love doing in the world is trying to help figure out how to connect the world, the things that are special about those people. And so I've had good luck all along, you know early on in my career. I Ellen Pompeo was a bartender that wouldn't give me a drink. And when I finally gave her my card and her boyfriend found in the laundry, a couple months later, she called me, and we had quite a good run. I worked with Selma Blair for a while. I worked with Justin long. And then when I. I was in Hollywood. I worked on the teams of people I worked for bigger company, but I worked on the teams for people like Jennifer Lopez. And Sean, combs and Will Smith. And those were not necessarily people that I found, but I was actually really lucky to be part of those teams because I worked for somebody, a guy named Benny Medina, who's a very famous talent manager. He's created a lot of incredible artists. And really, he was one of the first people that really thought about how you create artists into Brown's he would take somebody like Jennifer Lopez. And think how can we release an album on the same day as we release a movie on the same day as we put a fragrance into the world? And I think that was pretty early thinking back then in terms of three sixty thinking about how you could turn a person into a company. Let's, let's flashback to Ellen who mentioned bartender bartender. What did you see? No, as, as context for me, as well as people who are listening, do the most successful iconic managers, have five clients fifty clients one hundred clients. What does that tend to look like in terms of the number of? People you work with. And then what did you see in Ellen sharp? So when you're starting out, you know, it's, it's much more. You know, you're and you're betting on, on more people. Right. So usually in the beginning, you start with about twenty five or thirty people your first of all your ability to sign your no, you're not going. You're not. You know me at twenty five in the world saying, J, lo, like, hey, come on with me. That's not happening. So, you know, you're, you're trying to identify talent. You're trying to find people that you think are going to have trajectory, and you're usually signing between twenty and twenty five of them, and then watching their how they're different careers or dancing as your clients become more successful winds up happening is you personally handle less people because, now you really building companies. And if things are going great, you're actually producing things you're looking for properties for them. You know, you're really overseeing pretty much every decision for them. And so you're probably at that point handling between their megastars. You're having between one and three. If they're big stars, you're having between three and five and if you have a bunch of people on TV series and other things, I'm going to say that, once once your clients are successful. You don't have more than ten that you're personally, handling, you might have a team of people below you that are handling bunch. And you're kind of saying yes to that note of that, whatever, but your hands on with I'm going to say between three and five. And would you see an Ellen? What, what made you think? And the reason I'm asking this just for people are wondering why is he so deeply on this is that whether you think of yourselves as investors or not, you're all investors in the sense that you are allocating your hours, your allocating your attention? And so in a way her choosing clients is putting together an investment portfolio. You're placing bets and you have finite number of bets you can place. So why, why Ellen what did you do? See, you know, I saw an Allen, interestingly enough, what I ultimately wound up looking for in Seoul cycle. Instructors, what I to look for in employee's. And what I actually do alternately look for in entrepreneurs which is, you know, there was something about her, that made me want to know her that made me want to understand what she was thinking what she was going to be doing. You know, when I when I when I used to audition soul cycle instructors, I would say the main criteria that I had. I whole cycle instructor was do I want to have a whole meal with you? You know, I'm talking about an appetizer, an entree and dessert, and I'm still not bored of you. Really, how do you connect to people and watching her? There was something that was. There was something that was just fascinating about her. There was something that was really deep that I wanted her to tell me and I think that's really interesting. I think that, you know, there are certain kinds of people that you really want to lean into and whenever I sort of have that instinct when my body kind of wants to lean into somebody to know a little bit more. I genuinely know that, that's a person that I need to sort of surround myself with because there's something about that person that is interesting for me. So we're back into soul cycle, which perfect winded soul cycle become something real in the sense that there was a concrete action of some type of taking it from in the head to into the world and somewhere. Right. That's what actually, you know, separates voice for the men, right? I always say everybody's got an idea tucked away somewhere. So. I was working in New York. I was still working in the talent business, and I was taking classes at many different gyms just sort of trying to find something that, you know, fulfilled me in terms of exercise anxious person exercises. A real must for me in my life to sort of keep myself, and everybody around me, and good, spirits. And I, I just couldn't find anything. That was enjoyable, and I kept thinking to myself like this could be different. This could be fun. This could make you feel good. And I was taking classes with an indoor cycling instructor at a gym, and I became friendly with her, and I just kept saying all those things to her. And finally, she said to me, you know, there's a woman that takes some classes with me at another gym, and she's been saying the same thing to me. You should meet for lunch. And so she connected me with my business partner has right there. And my other my other soulmate, as I like to say and we had lunch one day, and it was really the craziest thing. I mean, it's a hard story to believe because we met for lunch. We had a couple of our lunch. It was in the winter and it was. I was at SoHo house here in New York, and we had lunch and it was crazy. It was like we had the same exact idea, and we were just completing each other senses when I left lunch that day before I even got in my cab, my cell phone rang, and it was Lisbeth. And she said to me. You know, I'm gonna look for real estate and you look at towels and I'll hall you on Thursday, and I thought, wow, that's amazing. I mean let a job and you know, whatever. And sure enough like she called me. I'm Thursday, and she said, I found something on Craigslist, she said it's twelve hundred square foot sublet of an old dance studio. We could take a five-year sublet, and you should meet me tomorrow on seventy second street. And I went and four months later, we opened were you doing on the tells she, like how you doing on the tells, so it's interesting actually, in case anybody wants to start a business turns out that when you have a twelve hundred square foot studio, and you don't actually have laundry facilities, what you do is you rent towels and somebody picks them up and takes them away and launders them. And I learned that on Google, and I do to flee brought my towel report that day as she was signed when the lease for our Craigslist dance studio. The U based on just the reading that I've done in preparation for this made made some in retrospect seem to be very important decisions. One of them was deferring or minimizing payments yourselves. It seems and I read about maybe talk about the. I think it was what these every Sunday, the two hundred dollars. ATM. Could you explain the rationale behind that? And could you elaborate on the, the weekly ritual with the ATM? Definitely. So when we started soul cycle, I, I actually like had a good job. I was making real money, and it was really the first time I actually that I ever thought about my time as money because I was sort of giving up a salary now and, you know, I was going to be using all my time but wasn't necessarily be taking. I, I took a small salary because at the time that's what we needed to do. But my husband was working. Luckily, and he was supporting us, but we had a five month old, baby. And we moved into a Ren control apartment, we paid a little less than a thousand dollars a month. We lived on seventy first street over Harry's burritos, and I had a five month old, baby. Who's in the front row? She's not such a baby. What are you wearing? And yes, so, so what we decided was that we were, we were gonna make sacrifices so that we can start this business and. Spencer. My husband would go to the cash machine on Sunday nights, and he would take out four hundred dollars. We decided that we started the business, we're going to give our credit cards up and we're gonna put ourselves on, like a real budget, which we hadn't really done before we were to people with no kids in two salaries, and we weren't making tons of money but we certainly had enough that we could go to Starbucks and take cabs for dinner and not think about of -cation and Spencer would give us a white envelope. Each of us on Sunday nights. We each got two hundred dollars and that was our money for the week. And when the two hundred dollars was gone that was this meeting, he got he got two hundred bucks and I got two hundred bucks. And I will tell you with with a child in New York City, two hundred dollars is not go that far. So it was like a lot of strollers on the cross town. Bus not a lot of Starbucks. But that's what we did. And you know. It actually I think that one of the really interesting things about, you know, really believing in what you're doing and being so passionate about an idea and really believing that something should be born was it was hard. And, you know, I remember clamping my finger in that stroller million times and cursing on that bus. But it didn't really feel like that big of a sacrifice. I mean we were happy. And we Elizabeth and I were were love what we were doing, and we did it and, you know, we lived in we lived in one room, and, you know, when we wanted to watch TV we roll the crib, Dr bedroom, and we wanted to go to sleep. We roll the crib back out into the living room. And that's what we did. Those. Thank you for painting, a picture because I think it and you already said, sort of anxious by by birth zoo. It doesn't strike me as the perfect time to necessarily start a company in just with five month. Year old kid and five month. Year old kid sounds, so what they say, and the it's sorry for the Brits and the audience, that's, that's, that's America's yank speak. I think just highlights the fact that if, if you really have something you'd want to do and feel important, there's very rarely going to be a perfect convenient time to do it, you know, it was such a gift that it happened so quickly. I talk a lot about Elizabeth. My business partner sort of being a great entrepreneur new being a really hard worker, and I think that's part of what makes us such great partners Elizabeth and incredibly good risk taker. I always say Elizabeth like total baller and I'm just sort of running behind trying to work really hard. But the truth is that I think, because she was such a good risk taker, because she's so good at moving the ball forward all happened so quickly. I didn't actually have time to be anxious or giving up my job and what's going to happen. It was just like we met on Tuesday. We saw the place on Thursday. We went across the street to Starbucks. We wrote on napkin, which, you know, we still have framed. It says, you know, if we could see hundred people a day at twenty seven dollars a bike, we're going to have enough money to pay for some babysitters. We both had young kids at the time we're going to be able to pay our studio staff. We're going to be able to take a little bit out of the business to justify the fact that we're not raising our own kids for the next decade and that was our business model on the back of that. Our bucks napkin and the truth. Is it happened quickly and we just got into action mode? So quick that we didn't have a lot of time to obsess about what if what if what if like we just had to make it happen every day. What names what other names were candidates for the business besides soul cycle, or was that just like a lightning bolt from the sky? And that was it. Did you guys that was a lightning bolt to Elizabeth's husband in the shower? One day, it was not a lightning bolt to either of us. But we you know, we thought of a bunch of different names at the time again, there was no boutique fitness in New York City. And so we felt like we needed something sort of descriptive about the cycling part of it in the names thought about cycle NYC, you know, we definitely had a lot of cycle in the name in the different other names because we felt we needed to be somewhat specific for people, and then he landed on soul cycle. How did you decide on the business model? Not just say the technology and the ambiance, and all these other elements that made a different. But how did you? How did you both think about developing the business model? So it's interesting. I think that, you know, again, at the time the landscape was, you know in New York City. There were big box gyms, and the model that was profitable was you went in you gave somebody your credit card. They took an imprint of it. And then they just hope that you never came because the best thing that could happen was that they could double or triple book your spot when they were figuring out their utilization, and rather than take four hundred members they have eight hundred members or even better, both of those people didn't show up and they could have twelve hundred members and so for us, you know, we, we really, we really began to think about it in a different way. And I think a lot of it, you know, has had to do. Also with, with our idea that we were tasking ourselves to create a really special experience, every time, you know, to the point of being a theater lover and thinking about things in terms of production, we used to always say that every time somebody crossed the threshold at soul cycle. It was curtain up and until. They left it was curtain down because we were only as good as their last experience. When we decided on a pay per class model, everybody thought that we were crazy, like, why wouldn't you take People's Credit cards? Why wouldn't you just charge them? And for us, it was a challenge to everybody there from the people at the front desk to know your name to the instructor in that room to deliver a certain kind of experience to us to make sure that the brand was delivering a message and continuing to innovate. And we just really felt like we wanted to challenge ourselves in that kind of way we wanted to deliver that kind of experience, every time were there any other early decisions that proved either particularly important slush? Good or particularly bed. There were many decisions that, that proved that proved both of those things on. Let's talk about the good ones. I. I think that when we started soul cycle, there were, there were quite a few things that even though our business model on the Starbucks napkin, might not seem sophisticated. I think that we were we were smarter than we thought that we were. And we thought about a few different things we thought about technology. We thought about the fact that at the time you had to go to the gym, and our early to put your name on a paper list and sign up for a class that was only gonna be forty five minutes long so your Jim experience now turned into two hours plus for forty five minutes worth of exercise. And so we created the first online reservation system. We thought about Bram the lot. We thought about creating something we never thought about soul cycle like we're creating Jim for us or muses things like the white cube. You know, the, the art gallery in London or an apple store. We always thought about ourselves in a much different way and creating a brand, and we never compared ourselves to fitness, and we always thought sort of if we could create a brand if we could set a stage if we could create a place where people felt safe and empowered. And like they could share with other people if we could set that stage and create that for people, then they can have a different experience, and they could have an environment that wasn't like that. We also really thought about community and we thought about, you know, how do we create a place where people support each other. You know, so much of what was going on? Jim's was competition between people and for us, it was all about, you know, some days, I'm not gonna feel like exercising. But like if you can bring it for me on Monday, and I can bring it for you on Wednesday, and we can. All raise each other up. What is that kind of place feel like because as co-participants correct, correct? And, you know, there were a lot of little decisions that we made along the way and things also that just happened to us in a lucky way, we started out with thirty five bikes in the room. We got popular before we could find a second space. So we ended up with forty five bikes in the room and what did that do it put the bikes this close to each other? And when people were done complaining about can you believe that are going to charge, twenty seven dollars and I'm going to have to sit that close to somebody, what actually happened was the lights were dark and people could all feel the music at the same time, and you could almost feel somebody breathing next to you and your foot was on the same beat as there was on and all of a sudden, it became connected, and it became tribal, and it was dark, and there were candles and the music was amazing. An instructor is telling you that you could be more than you thought you could be. And somehow the room is moving together. In a way that you don't often feel connected to people like that, even when you're having deep conversation. There's something about a move. Moving meditation with other people that are rooting for you that are holding space for you that aren't there to compete with you that are there to elevate you so that they can be elevated as well. And when we created an experience like that it was magic. I mean it was really magic. And that is kind of was a really transformational thing for people, it's really remarkable among other things that you, two are still close in the sense that a lot of co-founders. A blow to smithereens at some point like they get speed waddles, maybe because company's growing really quickly. They might not have the important conversations up front that they should have their million and one reasons. Why a lot of these relationships. Don't work out. I don't know if this factors in, but could you talk to coaching or advisors and if if and how you've you've utilized people to, to, to help you guys develop a maintain close bonds and ability to work, the other definitely? So early on in our business life. Elizabeth and I started to see a coach. And the way that, that happened was, we had a third business partner in the beginning, and that was quickly found out that, you know, that partnership was not necessarily going to work, and we realized, as that partnership was crumbling, that it takes work to make good partnerships, something that I've worked on my marriage, something that, you know, is no longer a secret to me that people actually need skills and tools to be in relationships with other people. There are plenty of people that are in relationships that are fine. But if you really want to have great relationships, that's actually a particular skill set. Right. So Elizabeth and picture. I don't really know very well at this point. I mean, we're about a year into business. We met at this lunch. We decided like let's just go for it. I mean, you know, we're still we're still pretty much strangers and Elizabeth while I was in a lay growing career Elizabeth's in Colorado, she goes to university of. Boulder. She spends her time and tell you ride, she is like a much more sort of evolved spiritual, you know, at peace with the world person than I am. I'm still like I've only lived on the coast, I've only macaroni. And so Elizabeth calls me in the middle of the night. And she says, I've googled life, coach NYC. I've realized she's having a nervous breakdown because she realizes that our businesses taking off our third partner is walked. We've got to get rid of our third partner who's completely toxic. And now it's like what's going to happen here? And we both have little kids at home. And, you know, the worst thing that's happening. Is that our businesses becoming such a success that, like, we're going to have to put our foot on the gas here? And so she says she's she's Gould, life, coach NYC, and then I should meet her tomorrow, somewhere, some location around Gramercy, because we're going to meet with the coach, and I'm thinking, I hang up the phone say to my husband like this woman is batch, it crazy, like there is no way. Like I have to work tomorrow. There's no way. I'm getting myself a cab. All the way downtown to go to some hotel and sit with some life coach NYC like I'm thinking we're sitting with Dionne Warwick, and she is going to tell us. But sure enough. I mean, we get there and we start to talk to our coach who, by the way we still work with today. We I don't there are so many decisions in my life, and our life that we wouldn't make without her and. I met with the woman, her name is Meredith Haber field? She has an incredible company called think human and. We started to talk about what it, what it's like to be good partners. And you know what it takes to make decisions together and like any relationship, you know, you're to people that have a common vision, but are in very different moments in your life at all times and business relationship is no different. I mean there are times like I need money and you don't or, you know, I, I need to slow down for a minute, because something's going on in the life of my family, and you wanna put your foot on the gas or whatever. And or there's just things that you wanna do at the business. I'm ready to sell the business, and you're not, you know how does what does that all look like? And everything along the way from learning how to be the only to employee in a company to managing twenty five hundred employees and what do you look like as leaders? And how do you communicate with your employees? And so we started down this journey with Meredith our therapist, coach life. Coach NYC I really think she's changed her website since then. You know, we've we've, we've worked with her for a long time now, ten years, and I will, I will say that she taught us lessons that helped inform the entire way that the culture of our company would exist. You know, we would learn how to have a conversation with each other, and then we would take those skills, and we would call defy them. We have been credible chief culture officer, and we'd work on them. We'd learn those skills, and then we'd bring her into learn that skill. And then we'd codify it and we would teach the entire organization, how to communicate like that. And we did that until we created a really extensive library of tools that we use to build a culture, and what was amazing was, and I know that you speak to so many founders that have spoken businesses started businesses. But I really do believe that, you know. Just like the way that I was saying to you like the nuances of people, what makes them special or just just so intricate, and so interesting. I really think that the nuances of great businesses come from the DNA of their founders. You know, it's those very things that make those people special that ultimately make those companies so special, but the problem is right after it goes from to employees to two thousand employees. How do you take that DNA and keep it in a place? That's really what it was meant to be. And I will say that finding coach was so lucky not only for me personally, I can honestly say that it is has changed who I am, as a human being I ever would have been able to be as a leader. But it also allowed us to scale this kind of stuff into our culture, which was incredible employees. I mean, we gave them tools like you know how to get unstuck, which was really just teaching them how to have a conversation about what was bothering them and to create spaces where they could have those conversations. Mm, not feel like people were going to judge them or, you know, reward them or punish them for what they were saying, you know, we had an expression sort of, you know, saying, no lumpy carpets. We created a an ethos where it was you had to communicate with your co worker if something was bothering you, and we created a space where you could have those conversations and we talked people not only how to express themselves but also how to listen. Okay. There's so much tone. Let's, let's get let's get into it. So the, the tools that you developed, or able to learn from your coach are one set of questions that I'll get to. But let me start with going from God. We're gonna be talking to a psychic. Get me outta here. I'm busy working with someone for ten years. Were you sold in the first meeting, and if so why what did she do not do ask, not ask exude that, that sold? You. Well, here, here was, what was so interesting about, you know, our meeting. I mean first of all, it was definitely one of those lean in moments, I had never really met somebody who had such different life experience than me, and was so different than me and yet saw all the same. Elizabeth and I have such completely different things that we bring to our partnership and relationship and yet at the end of the day, we have a really common vision. And I think that, that's really that's really what drew me to her. And in the case of Meredith specifically, how did she overcome your skepticism about that use of time? Well, first of all, she's just completely cool normal like if she was here with us. She would just be, you know, us, like, she's, she's super she's just she's just and she's just real. You know, there's, there's no bullshit. It's like she will call you on it. And she asks, you really hard questions, you know, you'll sit there and defend something for fifteen minutes. Well, that's not how I see it. And that's not how I want it and the yeah, but that's a mental Seiyu that's old rate. Here's what I want you to think about and you don't have to answer it now. She'll say something like this at the end of your life. When you look back on this who do you want to have been? How do you want people to have thought of you? And they'll just go because that's different shit than what I was about defending right now. Well, that's way different than being right in this room right now. You know, when I think back to the end of my life, and I think back about the way that I want people to have thought. Of me or have listened to people or taking a moment to considered somebody else's feelings, or point of view or put myself in their shoes. I mean, that's different stuff, then being right in the moment. And when somebody asks, you a question like that, you know, you stop and it's always questions like that. Or, or it's questions and a lot of times it's just you and yourself. And she'll just ask you questions. Like you know about why you're doing things. You know is about your ego? Is it about the way people think about you, because you need more money questions that you, I don't know? I have not done enough work on myself to ask to really ask myself those questions. I'm really good still at a talking myself into the things that I wanna hear. When you were talking about the getting unstuck, if I'm getting that, right? Or, and no-one be carpets the lumps in the carpet on my began the freezing wrong or managing these what could be very uncomfortable conversations with a partner about wanting to sell someone else doesn't want us, sell whatever the conversation might be right. It seems like a lot of those tools, whether it's for employees or for the two of you is about having uncomfortable conversations successfully and managing conflict. Are there any specific recommendations? Tools anything at all or examples, you could give how to approach say the, the employees who has something that is bothering them about a co worker, and kind of walking them through how to do that in a way that doesn't lead to World War three. Well, first of all, I think that for better or for worse, I think that, you know company culture also has a lot to do with it. I think that creating environments where it's safer people to do those things. You know, there's so there's so much politicking and things that still go on in many places where that sort of, you know, you have to actually reward that behavior. You know, I do think that, that is something that is. Has to be considered. But what I will say is that I do think that having those conversations and beginning to have those conversations really start with teaching people, how to listen. I, I think that training people how to listen to what somebody else has to say allows people who then have issues to go and be heard. I will tell you about something actually great that my husband and I have done for a long time to actually change the dynamic of our relationship, and I can honestly say that it's ever had to say sort of the other best thing that I've ever done is. We had our first daughter, and all of a sudden, we were no longer to people that could just do what they wanted, whenever they wanted, you know, if we both wanted to go to take different exercise classes at different gyms at the same time, we'll somebody had to stay home with our kid, and that the end to create conflict. We no longer had the time that we used to have to ourselves. We no longer have the autonomy. It's, it's different when you're when you have child. And so we head we'd started arguing, and we had started. You know, having all this conflict, and my husband who happens to be a much more of person than I am in a much better communicator said, you know. Well, maybe she goes talk to somebody, and we started to go to some couples counseling and see different marital people. You know, on a hunt for some solution to this. And, you know, when we were in the room with couples counselors, and therapists, we would basically were to, like, really smart people. So we would just play the win the therapist game you know. So we'd we'd we'd spend a couple hundred bucks an hour trying to figure out who was going to actually win that day. And then finally, we quit the couple's therapy. And 'cause I decided that our therapists liked him better. And. And. And then finally. Spencer was seeing a therapist on his own. And she said she had given him a suggestion. She said, you know, you should read this book, and it's called getting the love that you want, and he brought it home one day, and he started to read it, and he would say to me, like you've got to read this book is really amazing. And before he was through the book he had gone out and bought a copy for me and said, like we should read this together. And so we started to read this book before we were done with the book, we had actually signed up for the workshop and I bring this up because this is actually a technique that we have learned that you can use with your employees is you can use with your children. You can kind of us with anybody. But we went to this workshop, it was probably the most important forty hours of our of our marriage up until that point. And it is these two older, therapists called harvey'll Hendricks and Helen hunt, and here's what's so fascinating. They harvey'll was the first person to an Oprah daytime EMMY he's this amazing older. Therapists, who had studied relationships for a long time. It was becoming very prominent. And his wife was also a research professor that was studying relationships in the brain. And she's, she's learning all these things about the brain cortisol levels. And he's winning daytime Emmys, and they're both on their second marriages, and they're actually about to get divorced, while they're all winning all these awards and stuff and you go and take the seminar and cut to this. Fifty percent of first marriages end up in divorce seventy percent of second marriages end up in divorce in about ninety percent of third marriages, do teaching you that it has not much to do with the partner that you choose. But mostly the skill set that you bring to the relationship. Right. And so, here's the crazy thing you know, nobody teaches us how to be married. Nobody teaches us how to communicate with a partner. Nobody just us how to communicate with anybody, you know, I don't remember being in class in school where somebody said to me, you know, this is how you listen, this is how you talk to somebody. This is how you consider what they're saying and really all you do in this workshop is you learn active listening. You know, we learned how to make appointments with each other and have conversations that you're not embarking. Somebody the time where they can't hear you when you make an appointment. And you say it's your turn to talk, basically. You know, I say. I say what I say all that person gets to do is repeat back to you, and say, is there more. That's it. That's all the person gets to do. And then you there always is more. Never really just about that. Is it right? And then you say what more there is. And then they get to repeat it back, then they get to say is there more. And you know what happens at the end of three. Is there Moore's rather than trying to win the therapist and rather than trying to be right? What you realize is that somebody is suffering about something, and that it's coming from a source of pain, not coming from a source of like you, and it's not about you being right. It's about taking care of somebody that you love or taking care of somebody that you work with or hearing a child, that's coming home from school that didn't have a good day or got a bad grade. That's feeling disappointed. Also. And I think really teaching people how to listen and how to have conversations is something that's so important. Thank you, very specific. Are there other examples of ways you've brought things from that workshop or book or elsewhere into your relationships? Aside from the specific examples that you just gave in terms of active listening. Are there any other tools or habits that you've adopted her found useful? They're actually many others. I think that one is really the one that it's really the focus of the workshop and what you do you know, more most often. But there are a lot of amazing practices, you know, telling people what's great about them. I mean, how often do you, do you think about something that's wonderful about your partner, and make sure that you share that every day? How often do you make time to be proactive about doing something nice? Again, whether it's for a spouse, whether it's for child, whether it's four a colleague, I think there are a lot of incredible things that happen out of that workshop. But I will say that, you know, the foundation of it is really learning to listen. You have in. You mentioned that I think I'm paraphrasing here. So correct me if I'm wrong. But the you see founders with certain DNA certain superpowers, and that sort of infuses it informs the organization, and I think it's at least in my experience, observing, and being involved companies that also, if there is a cute dysfunction in a founder, that can also sort of infuse its way into a company. So I'm mentioning that just to say that the culture, which we take to be like shared set of beliefs and behaviors lead says, how I think of it does not just take care of itself. And part of that is doing the work that, that you guys have done as founders both separately and together up, are there any other, whether it's books seminars advisors anything that come to mind as having made a real difference. Whether it's in your business life or in your personal life. You're like you know what I would recommend? I've tried a lot of things here, few things, I would definitely recommend that people check out. Yeah. I mean a big a big book at soul cycle for us was always start with why from Simon cynic, and I know that's made it to a lot of your lists. And a lot of people are Simon cynic fans. But, but I will say and this is what I think, is so interesting as somebody who is fascinated with brand, and the articulation of brand and all things brand. I think that people are often confused and think of brand is the way something looks or the color of a logo. But, you know, Browns really how people feel the really, I think it was maybe Jeff basis who said, it's what people say about you, and you're not in the room or that kind of thing. And I do think that. Start with. Why is so important because people understanding, you know, why you do something, not what you are doing is really what, what makes her breaks brand, and I think everything about that book is fantastic. I think that, you know, for us really we spent so much time. I remember the day that we just really officially stopped doing our day jobs. I looked at Elizabeth and said, like, are we ever going to get to go back to work? Or do we have to spend our whole life making these people? Happy referring to our employees. And that was the truth. But there was a day where, you know, it all turned and you began to realize that if the culture wasn't going to be good that the product wasn't going to be good. And I think that's a real core value from Simon cynic who really says that you're happiest customer is only as happy as your happiest employee. And so for us, like really making sure that armed -ployees were taken care of and, and taking care of meaning, not just financially, but really felt like they mattered like the things that they were doing. We're moving the needle for the company that we personally understood things that they were going through achievements that, that they were, you know, making happen. I think that really taking care of employees. In a way that they feel heard is very important what we're little things or big things that you did to foster those things to make things happen. So interestingly enough, one of one of the main things that we recognized in the beginning. When we started soul cycle was that the fitness industry in general was really broken. Instructors didn't have full-time jobs, anywhere. So if you were a fitness professional, you would teach classes at one gym and three classes at another, gym and personal train somebody in their home. So you'd spend your entire life, sort of commuting and being exhausted. Just to try to cobble together a living. And then on top of it for doing one of the most physical jobs in the world, you had no health insurance, you had no paid vacation. And you certainly had no place to call home or really feel like you had somebody or to support you or that cared about you and one things that was very early on a goal for us was create these careers for fitness instructors, which is something that we really did. And. You know we. We paid more, we gave people full health benefits paid for those vacations and most importantly, we really gave them a home. We built a platform, you know, soul cycle was really a platform that we built to allow we really thought of are fitness instructors as artists for allow artists to really find their voice on a platform and to sort of give them the room to be creative and to grow into being their best selves. And I think by giving people that kind of platform and room and then really taking care of them in kind of the tactical aspects of their lives. It allowed people to become a different kind of employees. I mean, what we found was that we didn't have employees what we had was Brandon masters. You know, we had people walking around so proud that they worked at soul cycle, telling everybody how fantastic it was it became way more like a family than it did a job. I'm gonna ask them questions about good strategic decisions than we're definitely gonna get to see how I've voided Sally. Yes, yes, no. We're gonna get to the waste of time and money because they're plenty of those stories and all businesses initiatives, that didn't go quite as hoped. But one story that I read was related to opening the bridgehampton location, and how you resisted, the urge to pay yourselves or pay yourself much. And as I understand also, not take an outside investment, 'cause I would imagine, especially being New York City as soon as something seems to be going really well, spreading quite widely that you start getting calls. You start getting emails about outside investment. So could you talk to why? Or how you decided when to take outside investment, which could just be why you didn't take it up to this point. And then the, the thinking behind the bridgehampton location, which for people who everybody in this room. A lot of people, I'm sure our bridgehampton is. But for those people in the wider world, so you have Manhattan, and then you have Long Island and you go way out, and you have this place called the Hamptons and depending on who you are. There's very little in the middle either you love or you hate the Hamptons, I happened to grow up as townie out there. So I have this incredible inner conflict. I bounce back and forth between the two and just to for people who do not know. So the Hamptons are kind of the wear, many of these excessively from Manhattan, go to summer. Beautiful beaches, where for some people, they go to be seen. Why, why bridgehampton had had you think about it? And why no investment. Let me say that, you know, again, to the point of ignorance is bliss. We opened in four months when I look back now and when I think about all the investing that we've done, and when I think about how the world is spinning with people raising money. I really think that it was an incredible luxury to have no investors. I mean, we were really allowed to make decisions that were just the best for the business. We always just used our gut instincts, and there was no choice except doing what was right for our customers, what was right for employees. And really, what was right for soul cycle? I mean we. Invented a brand that was like a human being, you know, and we would always make choices if we have four daughters in between us, but Seoul cycles like our fifth daughter, and we would always really make choices thinking about, you know, what is the right choice for this business and not having money in the beginning. I also think, really informed the way that we market, it, we had no marketing dollars zero up until ten years into the business. We didn't spend any money on advertising, and I think what it really did was really forced us to be incredibly disciplined, and incredibly scrappy, and really be part of the communities that we were trying to create we would be out there, you know, at the mouth of central park handing out flyers in the in the bike loop. I'd be pushing my stroller up and down Broadway, trying to get doormen to let me into mail room building so that I could leave flyers. If you could actually find our studio, which, by the way was in the rear lobby of a building with no sign on the outside of it. We forgot. Talk about that. We'll get to that the epoch failures. But, you know, we would we were so happy to see you that we would do anything. I mean, I would watch your dog I'd feature parking meter. I'd let your kids sit there and you know, play a video game like it didn't matter. Like we needed you to like your experience, because we had zero money for marketing and at the time trying to convince somebody to come to the back lobby of a office building actually that was a mortuary to do that to convince you to pay twenty seven dollars to click into a bike to be an dark room for forty five minutes. I mean, if we could get you there like you have to. Nothing. We weren't doing to get you to come back. But all that being said it really was interesting because when I think about the way that we thought about that first studio. And I think about that napkin that we wrote our hundred riders on. You know, I think about starting a business, and I think about this for a lot of young entrepreneurs, and there is so much low hanging fruit in the beginning. I mean we really thought about building that I do DO rider by rider. And people say to me, did you ever think soul cycle was going to be such a big deal? Did you ever think this was going to happen? And what I always thought to myself was. I just knew that I need two hundred people there, and that was not going to be a problem for me because if I had to go and walk up and down the streets of Manhattan and call my friends and get people on those bikes like Andre people are coming today, and that was what I thought about it. And I think that, that really forced us to have a different kind of discipline than if we had had crazy investment and marketing dollars and. I know shaped who we were in the way that we understood our customer, because we were in it in a different kind of way. And there was a lot of freedom to that. And the great news for us was that our business model was great. I mean we kept throwing more and more bikes in that room. And it was teeny little place. I mean twelve hundred square feet. We ended up we had forty something bikes and they're twenty seven dollars a bike eight times a day. We were able to sort of create our first four or five, six studios, taking from Peter giving Paul selling to marry you know, it was like it was pretty great. I mean, we were really able to finance one with the other, and because we were not taking money out of the business because we really were that disciplined we were taking everything that we made, and we were putting it back into the business, and we were growing organically, and again, to the same point of not noticing the Starbucks was missing from my life and taking the taxes. We were having a great time and it really didn't feel like we were suffering. So I'm gonna I'm gonna I maybe kind of chasing chasing the wrong trail in terms of bridgehampton, but we don't know we can scrape it'd be, but I want to highlight something that's really important. That's come up, numerous times with founders of companies that have done extremely well on a large scale, is that in most cases, especially if the business models actually work. I mean there are some companies, get very big with this story. But in the case of something like soul cycle. It's very tempting to want to say. That you're aiming for this billion dollar two billion dollar X billion dollar outcome. But as go sit on the podcast before it's very easy to hide when you have this grandiose somewhat abstract gigantic goal as so he's like start small because then you have nowhere to hide if it's like one hundred people it's a very clear, measurable outcome. And with no marketing dollars is also a common thread that I see with a lot of these companies that are at least those been exposed to that are kind of consumer facing is if you don't have much in terms of marketing dollars or you constrain, it deliberately you have to make sure your product is great. Thank you really have to ensure that your product or service is really, really good. And then your customers become your marketing. Well, that's, that's that was always the philosophy right? I mean, we always knew and again, this was part of a kind of all work together. Right. Because we created a pay per class model it had to be. Great every time or else nobody had to come back and what we used to say was like it can't just be good like this cannot be a utility. The this needs to be so good that people are talking about it when they're out with their friends on Saturday night for dinner, and they are wanting, you want the credit for finding the coolest greatest thing that's gonna make your friend, feel the best and you're going to bring that person. And so the saying in the halls of soul cycle would be like we do not create users, create evangelists, and our Vange lists were spreading the gospel for us, and that's really was our marketing. But I will answer your question about bridgehampton. We were we were doing very well. And we had become this little Upper West side, destination. And the studio was bustling, and we were selling our classes really well, and we realized pretty soon everybody was gonna leave for the summer because that's what happens in New York. Right. There's a mass exodus to different beaches. And whether people are going to the Hamptons or the jersey shore wherever they're going, there's nobody here on the weekends and the summer. And so I called Hamptons magazine to see what it would be to take, you know, an ad I thought, oh, we'll take an ad in the fourth of July, you know, publication, and they gave me like a staggering quote, and I thought, well, we certainly don't have that much money and the truth is what we did was experiential. I could sit here and tell you how awesome it is to be on a bike and what it feels like in the music in the sweat, and the instructors, and the people, and then you're sort of you still can't really feel it because, you know, there's music playing and we're not in the dark and what I found was the only real way to get people to come into really experience. It was to, to come and get them. Take a class. And so we complement classes, we tell people if they didn't like it. They should pay this. They didn't like it. Give them their money back. But I realized that doing something experiential would be better than taking an ad and we got a phone call one day. And somebody said there's it's great old potato barn. And there used to be some pull dancing class in there and the poll Dan's in class was apparently going out of business, and now, the space would be int-, if we wanted to create a cycling studio. And so we figured, you know, we could either spend seventy five thousand dollars running a quarter page ad and Hamptons magazine, or we could just run the studio and plan on making no money and just think of it as marketing experiment. I mean, that's all we thought it was going to be was marketing dollars. And so we did, and we, you know, we, we went, and we, we painted the barn, and we, we rolled our bikes in there. And we put a big yellow wheel on the wall. And we flung open our doors, and the barn became like a sense. It really became you know. We live in a little bit of soul cycle bubble. But it really is like I mean, it's really the epicenter of Hampton social life, you know, people will tell you that, you know, if they can go and take a class at the barn. It's all cycle in the morning and then sort of hobnob in between classes they barely need to go out at night, me more, because that Barnes, these hundreds and hundreds of people between the hours of seven and twelve on a Saturday morning. And it really would it did for us was it took our little Upper West side, business from being a local kind of great neighborhood business hundred people, a day to all of a sudden becoming this sort of buzz worthy New York City on page six in the New York Times destination. And we came back from that summer and what happened on Mondays at noon, which is when our reservation system, open. So if you wanna reserve a bike at soul cycle, you go on Monday at noon. If you have a specific thing that you'd like to reserve and you can sign up for your classes for the full week. And what happened for us when we came back that, that fall was that we started? A crash servers at noon, on Monday, the, the demand load became crazy. And all of a sudden, we noticed like a line of town, cars up and down the street will always be parked outside for soul cycle classes. There was no Uber yet at the time and what it was is that people were coming from all over now. We know waiting and their drivers or whoever whatever rides. They were taking up, there would be waiting outside, and it became that's when we knew like we needed to grow. No. I. CDO except. The market doesn't want us to grow. You know, it's two thousand and seven and everybody wants a chase Bank or Duane Reade in their space to women with a business that is thrown off a bunch of cash. Still does not look that attractive. Okay. So how do you how do you solve a problem? Well, then two thousand and eight heavens. Wake up cash is king now. No, it still was not easy, but two thousand and eight happened, and it definitely became easier for us to think about getting space. After we. We started to. Okay. So now let's talk about when we actually did take money because there did come a point after about four years, where we took money we had eight studios, and it's interesting are decision to take money was not so much about the money it self. But again, we really loved what we were doing. We could really see how soul cycle was changing neighborhoods, and it was changing communities, and it was changing the way that people felt about themselves, and about other people, and we wanted to win we had a first mover advantage, and we're starting to see copycats come into the landscape and we were introduced to equinoxes to Harvey speed back who's the CEO of equinoxes, and we started to get to know him and the money, Makhachkala fusion seemed nice, although you know, we had a pretty good business. I mean, the businesses were making money and we could have expanded in the slower way, but we thought to ourselves that we would take a strategic partner rather than just taking money. And they would be able to help us grow thirty studio fifty ten fifteen twenty thirty studios at a time rather than let's say five or six or seventy or what were some of the decisions, or initiatives or anything where you look back, and you're like, wow. Those bad use of time or money any anything come to mind. There just or just. Yeah. We should have thought about that differently. Well, there are definitely a few. I mean we definitely made a lot of mistakes along the way. Neither of us had ever been entrepreneurs before, and there were small mistakes, and there were definitely bigger mistakes. Elizabeth always likes to say, you know, every time we would make a mistake it'd be fifty thousand dollars. We didn't have, and she would say, well, look at it this way you know, neither of us went to business school. It's part of our tuition for our MBA's. That that was always true. But, you know, we started out in our first studio. And what did we know we didn't never built anything before? And we, we built a studio and some guy told us that he was really good at soundproofing things, and he'd done some porn studios in midtown. And so we thought great like this guy's done porn studios. Go to it. And he stuff to insulation into the ceilings and closed him off. And then, you know, cut to opening day we turn on the stereo to find like a line of Iraq, neighbors outside of our door, and we certainly did not have money to respond proof the studio. And so that was that was really interesting. Whole sure it was interesting. Faye plaque. So would would you do? Well. Now we're getting into. You know, I find that if you can befriend local neighborhood law enforcers sometimes they will soundproof they will come and do the sound checks for your studio later in the evening when there may or may not be actual classes going on. And then you might actually be able to make the sound a little bit lower than you do during regular classes. Sometimes. It's worked for us for a while. Until we had money to restore the studio. Yeah. Well, you have to sometimes you have to build the bridges, you're crossing, we built some of those. Another fantastic memory was our first customer appreciation day this on. This is really one of my favorite. I didn't talk about studying human behavior. So we decided after about a year, we really wanted to the people that had helped us Bill business. And so what we were going to do as an entire day or free classes on Saturday starting seven o'clock in the morning all day long. We were so excited about it. I mean for us giving up a Saturday of revenue was huge. I mean, Saturday was our biggest day we had four of those a month. I mean, we were still living by the skin of our teeth. We are still going, you know, so we. We decided we were going to let everybody just call the studio rather than use the reservation system and sign up for free. We were going to do big bowls of fruit and free drinks and juice sponsorships and all this great stuff cut to open up the phone lines. And of course, a million people that don't ever come to Seoul cycle. Sign up for the free classes, and now all of our regulars are I rate because they actually don't give shit if they have to pay for class. They just wanna be on the bike. They wanna be on with the instructor at the time that they wanna be on. And now what we have is hundreds of pissed off customers who cannot get into a Saturday class at soul cycle. And hundreds of people that may or may not actually show up just signed up for a free class because I put it in time out, and that was our first customer appreciation day. So that was a learning exercise. I would say the worst amount of money we ever spent was, you know, scrappy entrepreneurs. No funding. Elizabeth worked on all of our technology with a web developer in Long Island, they built everything you know, as it came up. So you know, I we built for one studio, and then we built it for ten studios and then we wanted to have e com and until we built, this thing that was basically, like building a million extensions onto a foundation of a house that couldn't handle it. And so we need to rebuild our website, and so we were psyched, I mean we, we had a million dollars to spend, and we were going to hire the pros. And that's what we did we went out, and we hired a big fancy agency, and we worked on, you know, articulating our vision, and our brand we spent six months explaining to somebody else. What we already knew which was our brand, and our experience and the user experience and things that were kind of already working on that website. And then was going to be the big REVEAL OUR big fancy new website, and I don't know. I mean, they, they gave us a new a new CTO that was checking all the hardware and software and all the things that we were launching. But somehow, we flipped on the switch that day and flipped off the other website and it was great. Because eight people could book the same bike in the same class at the same. And that was disaster, and then to make it even better. Nobody could fix it. One week of sign ups went by four weeks of sign up by six weeks of sinus. Talk about using your goodwill. You know, the first few weeks people gave us the benefit of the doubt. We great customer service, teams, people showed up. They gave people hugs. They gave people free classes Jesus with the hugs. It was like bye bye week. Number four, people were just like we were just they just thought we were totally in apps, and that's actually how are is born to divert people from our fancy new website that never actually got working it works now. But it took us quite a while. I mean, we were able to build an app better than we were able to fix that site. Sounds really stressful. It was stressful. So. I don't know if this is still thing. And maybe it was never thing and it's just something somebody wrote on the internet, sixteen seconds to calm. That's how long I can meditate. The could you talk about? Any other any other that and any other tools that might help when you're going through an experience like that. So I'm not really good at sitting still that's not my specialty I've definitely tried meditation in many different forms with many, very talented people and many trusted friends have referred me to many places that I'm sure are the right places to be meditating. And I have never found it yet in my being to meditate. I think that's why soul cycle continues to be such a huge part of my life, just because there is something in that room for me that is really meditative and to the point of coping skills, it's still something that's in my daily practice almost at least a couple times week. But for me, I have a friend who started meditation studio in Los Angeles. And. Sent me a million ways to get onto her and her stuff, and there is one meditation that I have found that it's called sixteen seconds to calm and it sixteen seconds. And you basically take one breath in one breath out. But this guy tells you why you're interrupting patterns while you do that because you're focusing on your breath, and he claims that in your in those sixteen seconds, you have interrupted your thought patterns enough that you have broken the cycle of exile, and choose to believe it. The soups. The size of sixteen seconds and aside from soul cycle are there other tools habits. Routines anything at all that you found to help you to operate a high level when there's the potential to be overwhelmed by stress. I mean you, you like you said, you don't strike me as type to sit still for very long. It seemed to do a lot in and get a lot done. And there in lies, the risk of I think, overwhelm. So what are other things you do to avoid buckling under over one? I will honestly say that the, the number one thing that keeps me from buckling under is that I have a really awesome marriage. I know that that's. Sounds funny, or, or maybe not. But I have chosen a partner who actually. Is really amazing at communicating with me during times of anxiety and actually has sort of created an atmosphere in our home. That is not super tolerant of my anxiety in the best way possible the best way look like it looks like it looks like, you know, when I walked through the threshold of my house, you know, I have a partner that if I'm stressed out sort of demands to communicate about it, and sort of get rid of it, and, you know, we have a lot of respect for each other. And he usually finds a way to, to figure out what it is that can can bring me down from that. And I will say that being in a relationship like that with somebody who is not an anxious person who is able to kind of de-escalate your own anxiety is, is kind of fantastic. Could you give an exam? All you don't have to. But if you can have. Languages, so important, right? Like the devils really in the details. What might he say or ask, when he's like a code red? I see what's coming and wants to get you to talk about it or deescalate. What might be just this morning? We were preparing for this interview I said to Mike, are you can help me with the questions for Tim? And he said to me, you know, I didn't wanna say this to yesterday. But you said that's me the same way yesterday. And you're asking it to me in a way that obviously, you're very anxious and, you know, of course, I wanna help you. But would you like to ask that in a different way? I thought to myself, you know, I know he wants to help me because he is like the biggest supporter of my whole entire life. And I'm sure that he, and I know that he spent a lot of time thinking about this because he sent me emails, you know, that I asked him to think about this, and then I thought for second about my own eighty and where I was going with it because I thought, oh, I have something else to do at eleven and he's he can help me at ten thirty and it was my own crazy person. They're thinking like you need help me right now. That was like my own person, but he does not get worked up like that. And so he said to me, like, do you want to ask me differently because you asked me the same way yesterday? And I don't think the thing was that was just an my own check and most of the times that I. Am communicating badly with him with my children. It's because I'm in a state of Zion or distress. And I think having somebody like that, by your side, that can check you like that, again, in a way that's loving, not in a way that's you know like that. I think that really helps to bring the situation down, and I will tell you, one other amazing thing that we do in our house that has really helped to. Kind of reframe the way that we, we live. So we started to celebrate Chabad about five years ago, I was out one day with a friend of mine, who is like a super successful music executive. She's like definitely one of my main girl, crushes. She's like a total boss, and a real powerbroker, and we were having a business lunch. One day. And at the end of the lunch, she said to me, you know, I have to out a few minutes early. I have to go pick up a Hala for Shibata Hala for people who, don't celebrate is the braided bread that we don't Chabad, right. And. One thing that, you know, my business partner Elizabeth loves. She always says to me, it's always fun to find out something new that you don't know about somebody that you think, you know, really well, so I looked at my friend, Jillian, I said, really said you celebrate Shibata in front of me. And she said, yeah, you know, I'm out a couple nights of the week listening to music, and I find that because I'm so busy. It's really, it's a lot of integrity for our family. You know, we all have to be at the dinner table at six thirty on Friday night, and we put our phones away and we light candles, and we don't take out our phones, so the next morning and it's the one thing that we do in our house that really, you know, reframe our time together, and I thought, well, she's clearly more important than I am. And she makes this happens. I could definitely Fitch about him, and we started to have, and here's the interesting thing you know, we're not religious people. I would say that we are we're spiritual just in the way that we believe that the way that you are in the world is the way that you feel in the world. And I think that we believe in something bigger that we're all connected in. Way, but I wouldn't say that we're religious, but we started to have Shibat and we have very few requirements of our children. But one requirement is that everybody is home for that evening. Our daughter, who was five months old when we started soul cycle, she's now thirteen in our rule for her. She can have as many friends as she wants, but she has to be there and we let our candles at six thirty, and there's something about the time that it takes those candles to burn. That for me who cannot meditate. Being with people that I love and there's always plenty of people at our table. It's friends or family, and it's always fantastic. And there's just something about the time that it takes those candles to burn and not having phones and having a different kind of conversation with each other. And just it's almost like I've given myself permission for the evening to shutdown, and whatever that is inside of me that has whenever the minute, we light the candle says, like it's cool till tomorrow, the world's gonna wait for you. There's something about that ritual for me. That's really one of the times that I look forward to most in the week. What, what rules do you have during Chaba? And does it is it primarily what's the duration as primarily from the dinner to the following morning and you guys all put phones way. Is that is that the most important rule are there other rules that you follow? Now, we say we say we like handles and we do say two prayers, and Heeb. Grew. It's what we do. My husband has recently started playing guitar and he's, he's mastering guitar songs. And so we usually we try to have some music. He's getting pretty good. Our kids are usually super embarrassed, if they're friends over, there playing darn their mom singing clapping, so it's a really big hit. I tried to buy a lot of really good desserts. Everything from Levin bakery to bake by Melissa on down to lower my kids to stick around the table for a certain amount of time. Spencer. And I try to keep our phones and the drawer until the following morning, my daughter would obviously die without getting back on Snapchat by about nine o'clock. So we allow her to do that. And there are no rules really crazy thing is. You know it's just again it's, it's always intimate. It always feels like a safe space always feels like people can share what really happens to them that week, you know how they're really feeling about themselves triumphs their tragedies. It just feels like there's like no bullshit at the table. You know, people are really for all the times during the week that you had to go out and pretend it was great or that, you were killing it at work, or that I loved you at school today, or whatever it is it just feels like it's a really kind of, you know, we all go we go and pajamas or sweatpants, no matter who's coming over, and it's just a super relaxed kind of just bring your bestself or bring your real self low, what have beautiful ritual. Where should I go from here? Well, you mentioned the prepping for the interview in the exile where there any questions that you hoped I would ask you like you know what I have really good answer to that. I've really answer this type of question. I hope he asked me, this, or conversely, they're like, I hope to God. He really doesn't ask me. This is a bit of a trick or is it. Well, I have to say, you know, I did do some research while I was getting ready for the interview, and I was really, you know, I listened to a lot of very impressive people on your podcast. And I was really thinking to myself, like, I haven't written a book. I don't really have a method for anything. So I was really hoping that you wouldn't ask me for some sort of dissertation on something. You know, I was thinking lot, a couple of things that I was thinking about were just, you know. I was thinking about soul cycle a little bit. And I was thinking about what made the experience special, and I was thinking about a we would talk about that a little bit just sort of about the construction of what that experience is like, in the room and I think that's kind of an interesting one. I think that we've really crafted the experience in that room to be a lot of the things that I think people really need today and what we've done is we've really taken. We've created an eight week training program for our instructors and what we teach in those three things as we teach them teach them how to be spiritual and emotional leaders, we teach them how to be physical, fitness instructors, so they can give people what they need for their bodies and we also teach them how to be DJ's and how to create music, like artists, and what I think is really interesting about taking those three different tracks of psychology, physical experience and also creativity and putting them together is you really provide something for people in a room that allows them to access many different parts of themselves that I think people don't often get to access. And I do think that there is something about that, about creating sort of that moment, you know, we, we've created the class sort of, in five stages. I mean, there's almost five stages that we break it down into, which is, you know, we warn people up. You know, we popped the party, we break them down. We give them a soulful moment, and we send them home, like heroes, you know, and there's something about that emotional arc. And that physical arc with music matching all that I think, really provides people with a lot of what they need to get today in the world, and I think it's also a really interesting journey for people to go through together because although people aren't speaking aren't communicating they are all experiencing journey together. And so there is a really interesting way in a world where people have almost forgotten how to communicate with each other because of phones and digital 'isolation to allow people to participate in something where they really do feel closer and connected to each other at the end. I'd love to ask a bit more about these spiritual emotional leaders part, what is what does the curriculum look like for that? You know there are quite a few. There's there's, there's several parts of it. And I think the main part of it is allowing people to have a place to be vulnerable to come and express their own vulnerabilities as well as to talk about things that, that they're thinking about their own vulnerabilities and then to empower people to really deliver messages to people that allow them to as they are wearing down physically as the music is playing as they are this close to somebody else, who's moving with them. We're teaching them to deliver messages that allow people to believe that there are enough that they can be more than they thought that they can be that they could achieve more than they thought that they could achieve that people are rooting for them that are hoping for them. And I think that there is something about the empowerment that people get in that room when they are inhabiting their physical bodies in. A way that feels strong and teaching those instructors to deliver messages of positivity to really they read. They read a lot of different mature, so many of the books that are on your list, or books, that we're giving them in those classes and order. Solta. We think about what people are reading their curriculums actually wide, and that's the other thing, also because we've created it to look, more like a framework, and we'll also like to use the expression of freedom within framework. So we are allowing people to, to although they're creating within that framework to really find their own voice to find their own music. And that's also why I think that our riders gravitate to different instructors because somebody that's moving me, might not be the same person that moves you and yet, we've kind of created this shell of experience, almost like a mad lib right where they learn sort of this, this outline this technique, and then they can take infill in their own content in aside from the cynic that you mentioned, which I do recommend people, check out. It does pop up a lot on the podcast. Are there any other books that either you've recommended to managers or employee's or that you've just recommended or gifted to other people? Well, I definitely give people a lot of people that Helen Harvey book that I was talking about getting the love you aunt. Something else that we did a lot of reading soul cycle is setting the table by Danny Meyer, just for, you know, we, we also ran a incredibly interesting hospitality school for our for people that worked in the front of house, not in those rooms. You know, we we're all big fans of the Tony book, delivering happiness. And I think those were like some of our favorites Mars amazing. Very, very fascinating guy for people who don't recognize the name you should look it up. How you doing time? I do not have countdown. I said to what was that? Seven thirty five. Okay. Great. Let's see. I would love to hear what you are currently most excited about. And why because much like my question of the very beginning about what you saw on that bartender, and how you can pick, where are you going to allocate your time? Right. You've made some very deliberate choices and when you make a choice when you make a decision, right? You're cutting yourself off, just like incision. You're cutting yourself off from other possibilities opportunity costs. So what are you most excited about now professionally personally or anything in between? It's funny to talk about opportunity cost because for the longest time I really thought you could just do everything. And I'm starting to I'm starting to understand that they're only certain amount of hours in the day. But I will say that, you know, we'll sitting here in the middle of made by we really interesting because I think that it's definitely a good example of something that I am thinking a lot about these days, which is. How, how are people connecting in a world where people spend most of their time on their phones or connecting digitally? I think that's something that's really interesting to think about is where are the places, and what are the experiences that we're delivering to people to allow them to connect you know, we're reading about loneliness as an epidemic. I'm personally terrified watching my thirteen year old and the way she interacts with her friends and their phones. They're all in the same room and yet, they're all in their phones communicating. And so I am really obsessed with the fact that people are lonely and people are unhappy. And how are we giving people skills to be happier? And how are we giving them places to find those connections and so place like this? When I think about it, it's really a new version of a community center place where we can go, and especially in an economy where so many of us are now have the luxury of. Having our own company working by yourself in our apartment in that all sounds great until the day that you wake up and think I could really use somebody else around me to help me get inspired, and so really thinking about, you know how people connect and, and what kind of tools, we need to give them so that they can connect and connected meaningful ways. This is a beautiful space and help people in the audience feel, but it's my first time here, and I would love I could've used a place like this many years ago, and hopefully, they'll be many, many more come anytime. Absolutely stunning. And let's, let's wrap up with just a few final questions. And this one sometimes good question sometimes a terrible question. We'll find out and that is, if you could put a message question, quote anything at all. Metaphorically speaking on a billboard to get a message out to millions or billions of people noncommercial for the time being. Do you have any thoughts on what you might put on that for me? This is very easy. One. You know, I'm terrible claustrophobic. I did not know that. Yes. I am a terrible claustrophobic and ready for this. I live in New York City, I do not take elevators. Like, do not never don't take elevators have gone to weddings, black-tie weddings at the rainbow room. Seventy one flights. I walk. Wow. So presumably, you're not in like a running shoes when you go to such a function. I have a whole situation. I have my heels in a bag and I wear my sneakers up in full hair, makeup outfit. I make the top blot. I put my heels on and I walk out like nothing happens. But yes, I saw elevators are not my thing. And so if I was gonna put a Vilvoorde I think that it would say there is no elevator to success. You have to take the stairs. I love it. I dig it and do the any final comments asks recommendations anything all you like to say before we wrap up. I don't think so. I'm so happy, I got a chance to talk to you. And thank you so much for coming. I know that people were so excited to have you in the space. So it's awesome to have you here. Screw to be nice to see you again for people who don't know we spend time together before. And I've been looking forward to this. And as soon as we had a chance that very first time to spend ten or fifteen minutes ago. I was like I need to get her on the podcast at some point in my head. So here we are. And it's been really fun taken. So many notes. Everybody in crowds. Watch predictable these notes for things that I'm going to follow up on and dig into where are the best places for people to find you. Learn more about what you're up to we work anything that you'd like to mention in terms of resources. And of course, I'll put these in the show notes online as well. Definitely so. You can always find out what's going on in this space. On our Instagram. Is that right? Joel, where are you? What's the best way to find out about stuff in this space? Yes. Made dot by dot we very hard to get domain. There we go. And. A good way to find out what's going on with me is either at my Instagram, which is at Julie rice underscore or Elizabeth. And I have a great Instagram, which is at sole founders. Also, thank you so much for taking the time. Thank you. Really? Thank you. Everybody. And it next time. Hey guys, this is Tim against a few more things before you take off. Number one, this five bullet Friday, do you want to get a short Email from me? Would you enjoy getting sharia from me every Friday that provides a little morsel of fun for the weekend and five Fridays? Very short Email Bryce share the coolest things I've found that had been pondering over the week that could include favorite new albums that I've discovered cubing gizmos and gadgets and all sorts of weird shit that somehow dug up in the world of the Esa Terek as I do it could include favorite articles that I've read and that I've shared with my close friends for instance, and it's very short. It's just a little tiny bite of goodness before you head off for the weekend. So if you want to receive that check it out. Just go to four hour workweek dot com. That's four hour work week dot com, all spelled out and just drop in your Email, you'll get the very next one. And if you sign up. I enjoyed.

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10 Trivia Questions on Legally Blonde

Trivia With Budds

07:58 min | 1 year ago

10 Trivia Questions on Legally Blonde

"It's ten trivia questions on the hit comedy film legally blonde for Patriot subscriber and buddy Jan. Whoa JAR TRIVIA WITH BUDS. What it be. Welcome to another episode of the Trivia with Buds podcast. I'm your host ride buds. Thanks for checking out my show. It's been going on for about three years now and it has been daily for almost two of those years so thanks for listening and telling a friend about the show and watching on Youtube which is new as of January of this year. If you're watching on Youtube we could see a lot of cool stuff in my garage behind me. And I'm going to hold this up this Friday the Thirteenth Drinking Cup that I got for twenty five cents at Walmart very cool and I have one in my house that I use. So I'M GONNA probably give this one away in March which I think features a Friday the thirteenth. I think we have a Friday the thirteenth coming next month. So a lot of cool stuff behind me if you like pop culture. My garage is full of that kind of stuff and I wanted to do a quick patriotic spotlight on a couple of patrons that I have named Mo and Brenda Martinez who are a nice married couple. Who Love Trivia and pop culture. They been listened to the show for a while. So shout out to mow and Brenda and thank you for your continued patronage. I know that Brenda reads a lot of books. Brendan let me know what you're reading as you probably heard. I have been reading a lot of books lately. And a lot of Y. A. Which I know you like is well always looking for new book recommendations. Let me know what you are putting your eyes on these days in terms of books and novels and things Brenda and miliband Chicago and I was thinking about some of my favorite things about the sweet home Chicago where I grew up and here are some of my favorite things about Chicago. I love the fall. People he's asked me what's the best time to visit the Midwest to visit Chicago and it's definitely like September and October mid September to mid October is probably the sweet spot. If you want to see some leaves you want to still be able to do stuff outside. But it's not freezing yet. That kind of stuff. I also love the band. Alkaline trio which hails from Chicago. I love Portillo's which is a great hotdog and beef place and I love swearing in drinking when she. I have found that other places in the country. Don't swear as well as Chicago. You can kind of see that on shameless shameless and late night. Drinking a lot of bars open till four. Am So those are my favorite things that is it for today's intro guys. We're going to jump into eleven. No Ten questions on the hit movie legally blonde for Jimbo. Dr. She loves this movie. I hope you do too here. We go all right legally Blonde Trivia. Let's see how many of these you can get right out of ten. Here's number one. What color is els car in the first legally blond move question number one? What color is else car number two? What is a perfect score on the L? Set Number Two. What is a perfect score on the l? Set question number three how many different hairstyles does l? Have throughout the movie is at ten. Twenty thirty or forty different hairstyles number. Three how many different hairstyles ten. Twenty thirty or forty question number four. What Nineteen Ninety nine movie did Selma Blair and Reese Witherspoon also appear in together number four? What was that one thousand nine hundred nine movie with? Selma Blair and Reese Witherspoon question number. Five elwood says she grew up in Belair across from what TV producer number five L. Woods says she grew up in Bel Air across from what TV producer number. Five question number. Six the sorority she pledges is called Delta. What number six the sorority that L. Pledges is called Delta? What number six number seven? The movie was nicknamed what other movie goes to college number seven? The movie was nicknamed what other movie goes to college. Name that other movie per seven number eight. What is Brooke Wyndhams Job in the movie? The for what is Brooke Wyndhams Job in the movie number nine win? L. Rejects Warner. At the end of the movie she calls calls him a complete. What number nine. When L. Rejects Warner at the end of the movie. She calls him a complete. What and number ten. Who Plays Emmett Richmond in this film? Who plays the character of Emmett Richmond in legally blonde? Those are all your questions for today's movie quiz John. I hope he had fun. Playing along with these will be right back in just a second whitby legally blonde answers. We're back with answers to legally Blonde Trivia. Let's see how you did on today's episode number one. What color is else car in the movie? It is blue specifically a light blue and the Porsche number one light blue Porsche number. Two what is the perfect score on the sat? That's a one eighty. I think she scores a one. Seventy eight seventy five something like that number. Two one eighty number three. How many different hairstyles does l? Have throughout the movie. Ten Twenty thirty or forty. The answer was forty forty different hairstyles. That's nuts that's going to share concert number four. What 1999 moving did Selma Blair and Reese Witherspoon also appear in together? It was cruel intentions. Loud girls like that movie. I guess some dudes too but I remember everybody in high school ninety nine. Let's see we were freshmen yet? We'RE ABOUT TO BE FRESHMAN. Lot of girls like have you seen growing tensions. That's what my life's like your life's now like real intentions number five. Elwood's says she grew up to grew up in Bel Air across from what TV producer. Aaron spelling creator of nine. Oh two and now and I read that Tori. Spelling almost got the role in legally blondes. That's interesting number. Six the sorority she pledges is called Delta. What Delta New and you Delta NU number seven. The movie was nicknamed what other movie goes to college. Clueless goes to college. Several critics called it that number. Seven number eight. What is Brooke Wyndhams Job in the movie? She's a fitness instructor fitness instructor. Number nine when L. Rejects Warner at the end of the movie. She calls him a complete bonehead. That's a good diss bonehead and number ten. Who Plays Emmett Richmond in the film? One of the Wilson Brothers. Luke Wilson is the real love interest in this movie that today's quiz guys ten questions done. We flew through those and I hope you had fun playing along Gen. Let me know how many you got out of ten? Funky monkey has a question of the day for you and that question is what girl groups. Second album was called crazy sexy. Cool semi your answer at Ryan Buds twitter or email Ryan buds at gmail.com and check funky monkey designs for all your printing needs. The link is in the show notes. Yesterday's question the answer was New Orleans for Louis Armstrong's birthplace and your trivia team. Name of today is breakfast. Club of Champions Breakfast Club of champions. Thank you so much for listening. Thanks for watching on Youtube. Thanks for leaving reviews. Thanks for telling a friend and we'll see you tomorrow for more trivia with buds cheers ahead.

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Full Episode: Wednesday, July 24, 2019

Nightline

18:35 min | 2 years ago

Full Episode: Wednesday, July 24, 2019

"Is there something that interferes with your happiness or preventing you from achieving your goals better help online counseling. Is there for you connect with your professional counselor in a private online environment schedule secure video or phone sessions plus chat and text with your therapist listeners. Get Ten percent off your first month by going to better help dot com slash nightline grieving good evening. Thank you for joining us new details in the murder case of a young promising college student tonight that close it how trigger multi-state manhunt and an arrest here's A._B._C.'s Marcus more alley costal was the girl with the bright smile smile and even brighter future but last Friday night she went missing. This newly released surveillance video taken outside of a local bar may have captured the last images of her ally. A college student from Saint Louis has been found dead in Mississippi. The twenty one year old college student was found in the remote Mississippi Woods her autopsy report out tonight. Revealing she died of multiple gunshot wounds foul play is involved but how she ended up in those woods thirty miles away remained a mystery until police arrested this man twenty two year old brandon fees filled it turns out these filled was alleys classmate at Ole miss seeing here by her side in a social media post male white or when he passed the police in Tennessee track him down at this gas station in Memphis ovary no-one tonight the mystery surrounding one woman's horrific murder and why her classmate is behind bars charged with her death yeah it is these summer before her senior year and Alexandria Costal Marketing Major and sorority sister for Alpha Phi is taking courses at the University of Mississippi known around the country warmly as Ole Miss in the sleepy college this town of Oxford. It's an arts town. It's known for its just color and flavors and it's kind of local melting pot. This is the land of football scrawl this of tailgates and Friday nightline's twenty one year old Costal Austin was last seen Friday night outside the local bar in the town square. You can see her here walking down the street and looking at her phone police say eventually getting into a rideshare. She did not go into tomorrow. She left to win home and then that's worth. North of the puzzle is still waiting to be piece together. Police say after alley returned home at around midnight. She left again a short time later. The next morning costumes body was found near a popular lake in Harmon town Mississippi about thirty miles away from the old miss campus by a deputy on routine patrol and this is the spot the very remote spot where that's sheriff's deputy found allies body right off of this curvy dirt road that goes towards a fishing post there and you can see how remote this is and the crime tape here here near the scene thick woods and gives you a sense of the area that investigators have been working as they try to piece together. How allie was killed sign a place kids hang out? SORTA slake is a place where kids go and have weekend parties but that area various artists Lake is normally known for gatherings or parties or something like that so when when you hear a college kids h kit or any age kid is found they're alive or otherwise it would be kind of it would raise questions alleys father Keith Costal confirmed the news news of his daughter's death on facebook posting Saturday afternoon we were visited by police who communicated to us that are beautiful dear Alexandria Alley Costal was the victim of a homicide authorities launched a multi agency manhunt for the suspect suspect gas station Lafayette County Murder Investigation Hanging cystic phone brandon the field male white and they fought in one leg pasta arm. They should be over here on Monday. They get their suspect. Brandon th-this fill these new images obtained by local Fox affiliate captured the dramatic take down across state lines at Tennessee gas station Memphis police with their guns drawn spotting the suspect in an Ole Miss Baseball team Monday morning and taking them into custody is murder and he is being held in our jail without on still authorities are being tight lipped on the details of the crime. Is there anything else that all you want to say that is important. I just found law enforcement and prosecutors. Don't talk to the public. They're trying to play out some leads in the case that they believe that talking about them. Publicly could either jeopardize the lead or people might destroy evidence etc.. The university has confirmed the Feast Building Costal were classmates in the business school. These field has been suspended by Oh miss. I have never once had a bad conversation. Never once felt threatened never once you know thought he accused capable of that the suspect making a court appearance Tuesday in an orange jumpsuit and shackles his father Dr Daniel Theis built a Texas physician is seen here leaving the Lafayette Mississippi jail after visiting his son in a statement to A._B._C. affiliate W. F._A._A.. Dr Phil Saying I've spoken to Brandon. I asked that everyone give him. The benefit of the doubt that he is innocent any homicide case the first thing you'll look for is any sort of connection connection or relationship between the victim and the suspect where they ever a couple that the ever date for the class together these are all things law enforcement will look for if that is there the net gives the law enforcement even a lot more to look for to build their evidence against the suspect alleys friends. Meanwhile are remembering her for her warm. Personality tune is probably one of the most positive radiant people I've ever met. I'm just going to miss how the fact that she was always there for me if I needed to talk to her those closest to her still stunned. They won't be seeing their friend again. Everyone misses her like you wouldn't believe guidance wish she was back in a statement the University of Mississippi offering condolences we extend our deepest sympathy to her family friends and classmates and stand ready to support them during this time. Jake Thompson is a reporter for the Oxford Eagle newspaper here in town so let's go I was covering high school sports now trying to run around and cover of high profile murder investigation is so it's for me joining as well personally and professionally on campus showing us the impact of a life lost. This is a sorority row yeah this is this is her sorority. Actually one of them has the black ribbons and in remembrance now <hes> of valley their fallen sister shorty sister and you know that's that's what's going to be the hardest part for them. This you know you know fraternity houses royale. He spent your non on class hours in there with each other. Sharing your lives stories and Best Friends Gossiping you know just all sorts of that you would do with your friends and when they come back that's going to be tough day for the alphabetize and I can't help but thank you know alley alley spent four years of school. She said she was a senior. Cashiers heading this was going to be a starter for senior semester next month and was set to wrap up and spring may walk graduate and and move on with the restaurant live unfortunately now that that doesn't happen happen for nightline. I'M MARKUS MORE IN OXFORD MISSISSIPPI Brandon. The's fell remains in jail awaiting a bond hearing coming up. We're going to switch gear completely. The latest social media influencers with millions of followers hundreds of thousands of US and nine lives technology is supposed to make your life easier right. Don't let your business be limited by the software. 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The cat videos are not hard to find line and some famous felines breaking the Internet now celebrating our furry friends who really don't care what you think they know the number one here's nightline's auction sing this what fame looks like Meat Nala a nine year old rescue cat and the most famous feline on Instagram with four point one million followers from living bring it up and sin city to soak up some suds the trying on some new shades this cool cat rakes in hundreds of thousands of views and lights and she doesn't even know dollars just the newest Queen Bee in a world of Kitty influencers. Does that have achieved their own level of online evidence so he's Nali your full time job now. He's getting my foot hunt for seven years now. Oh my God bringing along their owners for the ride. Nala is now the one paying the bills. How much does she naked he? Now that'd be bought two houses now. The have to adopted kids and you have seeking cats and adopt wow from video compilations almost one hundred million views to memes teams and movies like the viral cats trailer release just last week for whatever reason nothing holds a candle two kittens when it comes to being able to break the Internet I and for these divas and their owners today is the most perfect day of the year where at cat con the biggest cat centric event in the world from the instant famous felines themselves to the cat ladies both real you'll and legendary. This is were kept people meet and I've got to admit I'm a little out of my element. I grew up a little scared of cats so we're going to see how this works out. Let's go check it out CONDO's centerstage for some of the most influential wolf felines in the world. What is it about this Kinda? Make them Internet royalty. People want something to relate to Michael's is the founder of the event in southern California like these kitties and what they you stand for and even videos people need a break. They need something to believe in after meeting with Nala. It's pretty clear she's living the dream I found over my shoulder and right now. She's the most popular Kevin again but I think it is because you you know we we being authentic and we've been ourselves and we try to bring Lega good to the world fresh off from a flight from Alberta Canada. We also caught up with sukey Bengal cat with one point. Five million followers celebrity legates traveled in with their owners to meet her beloved fans haven't noticed the creepy Kathleen News. Coming younger is becoming younger. I think a big part is social media. Just finding so many new cats are so cute that we fall in love with and then fly away academy cat con isn't just about the feeling it's about the owners themselves and we're about to hang with one of the most famous cat ladies all Angela Kinsey the real life Cat Lady Bird ever character on the office Angela Martin Halloween blessed year just a couple of kittens out on the tone seriously. So why are you here today. I want to ask because I cut lady. I played a cat lady. I am a real cat lady. No I love cats. I mean my character. Maybe a little bit more than myself. I don't know she had like thirteen. I've never looked one of my own cats faces so there's that we're talking to Susan the founder of cat cons and one thing that she brought up is the modern cat lady is changing. That's right. What do you think about the cat? Lady is Sassy. I saw lady today that had like Fleming you might wear let's say gala and it was like covered in cats and she had like a midriff tops so I say the modern Cat lady is Sassy. She's out there. She's ready to mingle with cat. Lady is changing and so is the industry cocoon and the surrounding animal influence culture are all product of shifting market of pet owners with millennials making up the majority. That's about thirty five percent of the group baby-boomer with a number one consumer a pet products until about. Two years ago and they didn't expect the millennial to usurp it till twenty twenty and they already have twenty eighteen American owners spent seventy two billion dollars on their pets. This year we have over two hundred vendors the most we've ever pat today and then one dollar every ticket goes to help animals immed- now for years in Cat con feature to record sixteen thousand people traveling far and wide for the whole kitten caboodle. I have to be a little crazy to apply all the way to California from Utah. Just meet I want them to walk away with virtual and a real life takeaway that's memorable whether it's a catnip toy that they buy or sell fee that they take got the adopt that they adopted and so to that point. We've gotten to date five hundred four cats adopted a cat con beyond the glitz and Glam of the cons most famous cats lesin adoptions a real chance to find the home for some of all these firm balls and I'm finally making friends. This is victorious. Victorious and Buddy not adopted there were super happy for him and best friends here at cat con. Try to get two hundred cats and kittens Interpol. Hey Buddy I got you and they were able to do just that Cat Khan and best friends successfully found a home for two hundred cats at this year's Cat Khan and while I'm over here getting over a lifetime careers for the attendees of Cat con today's about living out there furriest fantasies strutting their stuff from whiskers details. I think people love cats because cats do not care about us at all. They're like I don't care do what you WanNa. Do you WanNa take my picture fine. Don't care for Nightline on Washington sing in Pasadena and finally tonight Selma Blair fighting dark diagnosis with grace and grit. Here's A._B._C.'s Linsey Davis with her signature megawatt smile and rocking Hurricane Arcane as an accessory vibrant Selma Blair opening up to people magazine nearly one year after she was diagnosed with Multiple Sclerosis Zach to say have more joined now than ever have the actress who says she was suffering. Bring from M._S. years before it was diagnosed last August talks about balancing her health alongside her day to day routine as a mom. Even telling Robin Roberts earlier this year the relief she felt when the illness was finally diagnosed when you were first diagnosed what initially went through your mind I cried. I had tears I wasn't they weren't tiers of panic. They were tears of Nope me. I now have to give in to a body that had lots of control control and there was some relief in that because ever since my son was born was in M._s.. Flare Up and didn't and so when I got the diagnosis I cried with some relief like oh good. I'll I'll be able to do something since then Selma has become an advocate bravely sharing her day to day struggles dealing with the disease with millions of fans on social media enough liberty anywhere but I go in the bathroom. I have like women like floca like it's an eighty movie like I'm like Woo so I think anytime we do come out and have a sense of humor just show. This is how I'm living my life today and it's okay today you know just for for some inspiration back in February some discussed how she pushed through some of her darkest moments what gets you through those difficulties getting bad and I don't move you you just have to you can't do it. All it's fine to feel really crappy but also gushing about her son Arthur. He knows what he wants. His doesn't put up with garbage yet. He's very empathetic and very grounded sense of humor and is great hair good-looking kid. He's makes me laugh all the time. I love being with them. She is an inspiration. The newest issue of people can be found on newsstands this Friday it. It was my Angela who said we may encounter many defeats but we must not be defeated this nightline you can always catch full episodes on Hulu. Thanks for the company America good night. 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Episode 468 - Cruel Intentions (with Angelica Jade Bastin)

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Episode 468 - Cruel Intentions (with Angelica Jade Bastin)

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We're coming to you from the brand new beautiful and still newly smelling had gum studios in Brooklyn New York Work and we are happy to welcome back our friend of the show vulture writer Angelica jade bastion. Hello thank you coming back. Thank you for having me. I feel will pretty fucking honored like such a good mood and so full of myself right. Now I've been on. We hate fuck in movies two times bid with some nineties movies. Hell yeah absolutely. Those are the prime slots nineties one on needed to have. She's all that and we we obliged him right and you've been species before. This is one that we've been circling like sharks for a little while so I'm glad we got to it because it's just that move. I've seen this movie or a part of this movie quite a few you break a VHS tape rewinding hostile napped it. I'm the right age for that battery and they know that. That scene was unreviewed. Although I will say re watching this movie I probably hadn't seen it since like the early but watching it. I realized I've seen seen this movie a lot of not just the girl on girl kissing but it was a it was a cable movie. Law Shore very on cable and this kind of phenomenon on the everybody was talking about it for a little bit. So yeah I remember remember seeing him for the first time that kiss ninety nine. It was like this the Matrix Star Wars episode one. And that's it that's all you need it. I mean that's crazy and he gets you through theaters by any chance. No later straight up rental same. Maybe maybe not. I don't know I went to a lot of movies in ninety nine. Congratulates you We should say this is directed by Roger Kumble. Great set a real person. I'd be using a fucking Elliot's made the movies this dudes made because he directed did this. He directed the sequel to this. What are we talking about others outside the other movie he did Just friends friends. Yeah Ryan Reynolds is fat That's the joke I he also did furry vengeance which is that. It's a better convention that went wrong. I fucking where revenge film certain side the world with convention. I'd watch it. I would so watch that movie radio. Land murders just killing them off all the people who are putting the thing together Eh. Perfect sense everyone's got a mask who to trust. Those are big bulbous costumes. You see one of those guys in the corner. It could be empty. You could be dead standing up. You don't know Mr might just be taken arrests to. Oh my God that Purple Horses Been Stabbed Free Brendan Fraser Land Developer and an AH sentient like talking animals. Come after him. And I watched it when Ed Salmonella poisoning and I will never forget it. Extent is a double bill Like being at death's door being like this is terrible dude. What if he was the last movie you watch those a gamble watched that? Did you watch anything else. Just that that and other stuff. But that's the that's the one that burned into my brain. Gotcha like how embarrassing is that. Steve You are straight on your way to hell Having died from Salmonella poisoning and the devils like Steven what was the last movie. You watched your like very sorry vengeance sir. I mean that would be the thing. We just keep several polls. Everyone who comes out loves movies absolutely absolutely. Sit Down Sir. So what what do you watch these days. Roast people. Just say Woody Allen Movie Okay Furry vengeance wait so the animals are also talking to them as I remember it or were you just. That's only part we're talking. Yeah talking happened in animals. Steve Steve. Just because I've known you for the better part of twenty years. I know that you've probably seen this movie. The most pervert. Yeah Hey. Youtube didn't work back then. Exactly all this to just say if you do quickly condense this movie for the folks at home who may not have seen it been around in ninety nine. And what is this movie It's tiny toons dangerously as I'm yes yes or it could have been produced on the WB like as like like TV movie like WB folks. which is why I was obsessed with it? It's the WB this but then it's like it was four folk who were watching watching this. WBZ shows actors. But then it's like there's also thrusting in this movie like these scenes could use the WBZ WBZ frog shoot involved Michigan. J Frog incest on that w right because he was conceived in Michigan. I I don't understand why the frog named the frog name but it's prep. School kids are playing playing dangerous liaisons and getting into all sorts of sexual misadventures thing that realized watching this movie. Yes why the whole thing is oh. It's dangerous liaison senator. Prep school but we're never at the prep school never at the school. It's so fascinating when shows or movies do this like high school kids and they're not doing a lick of homework on the school except for the very end. Yeah this is. It's summer break. Yeah which is so dumb like why involve the prep school this much in the story now the country manor they go to towards I guess is that towards the end is that the school is that would lead no no aunt's house right. Yes the nurse Ratchet when the funeral stuff is happening at the various before that when they go when they're like writing Moore's isn't shit. Oh Oh yeah. That's at the aunt's house. Only like five settings in this movie honestly aunt's House Run York apartment and the New York apartment is central Lark ornate so to wealthy every single scene of this movie I feel like Napoleon Bonaparte could walk into it and you'd be like it looks. It looks like it fits. Yes no totally. The and I mean it's it's one of those things where a lot of stuff that they tried to a dangerously as I've now what is that. Is that like a board game based on the hit Bourne. Dangerous is liaison trouble dangerously as I thought this was based on hungry. Hungry Hippos thirsty thirsty. It's suggested I did Bhai Hungry. Hungry Hippos I suggested instead of based on is like it's so fucking loose we you can't say based on so at six chess to European smut. That's a good it's an. Have you read the book or No. Yeah I love how you guys look at me like. I'm cultured attorney. I Don what do I do most days like smoke weed and watch Bob's Burgers. If you guys out there in the world like I'm a dumb ass I title very well. I didn't need to look at these guys. I know where Oh for four to the rest of the new element producer. Mike can you read dangerous liaisons. That's not all right. It's six around oversee what I know about. Is the Stephen Frears movie right Malkovich and Glenn close and Michelle pfeiffer right is not cecile. She's an expert in that story. Chris Cabin are they like. Is it the same like sex games kind of like if you get it in her bag than olive sex with you. Step brother who. That's the thing. It's all sex games and except for were they add the step sibling. Element in this movie is the Ground Zero of today's modern pornography. Neither text I would call it just like the stepsister phenomenon that is grabbed the country it is it grows and it doesn't make any sense it just makes it gross for no reason season. There's so much gross about this movie like as now an adult like watching a movie that they're supposed to be teenagers and they're all like sweaty and lying grinding grinding on each other or losing their virginity or giving their stepbrother a handwriting while teasing him. Because that's just the thing you do you know in between getting your manicure and pedicure. I guess it's talking about filling time. I mean. That's how they do it. Yeah that's how I feel too. I just give our hands straight Laghi watching this movie and like my wife and I were like total tops. There eighteen yes total tops and like some of Blair's character which is hilarious because she is the oldest actress playing the youngest character and she sort of playing her like a child curious. It's really weird. Sworn Koala shirt and I'm like what game are we playing here. There's that kick somebody's box because it's very strange because she's like you know supposed to be a teenager but she acts like a really young child and she will sometimes do these weird things like she'll blink really hard and she'll just smile randomly and you're just like issue okay. Ah living his hard like every every moment is awkward rent Swisher is like really big for her and that that was another little thing and it's a game but the weird thing is like so then if that's the case that we're not going to highschool ever why don't you set them as a bunch of sexy twenty year old kids that are getting into no good because for Roger Kumble Gotcha. That's not as hot as a CEO in the Eighties Porno. Yeah Roger Kumble Mbui Kumble Soup Do. That's what I meant about. There's only one thing missing from this movie to make pornography and that is like actual penetration scenes sounds and genitalia because like the music. The score to this movie is one or two percent porno music. Get some but you do have Safavi stunt double but really so. You don't even try to tell me that. That's Ryan Phillips Sidya research this or you just like doing a true thing right. No it's neither I. It's a it's a crisis actors as no when she looks like Sarah. Michelle looks across the room. It cuts to this dude is back is fucking Jacqueline shoulders. So why do you like the Wolverine from the back. I do agree with that. That's the thing and when you see Ryan Philippine movies like You realize tiny any of a person. WHO'S THE NINETY S? We had to be tiny tiny. If that's true if that's true. They also gave him the stupid Justin Timberlake Ryan Fillet Haircut. Osha this Guayas Ayas. Oh his hair is so shelled. It's so ugly it's really me. I was like Y'all what is supposed to be rich rich and I looked good. The name is Sebastian Vol Mont yes empire ass name. That is a total. Go get the garlic to get the sky later on on when he's trying to like you know he's like a trying to break up with reese witherspoon to like get her away from him because he's such a bad guys like you and nothing but a conquest and I wrote down in my notes is he. A Vampire buyers use the word conquest. Sure we'll part of that. I think is also what they're doing in this moving the waves written they are. They're like in pushing thirty. Everyone in this movie is pushing thirty claiming teenagers. Who Act like they're all sixty years old and speak like they're sixty years old and it makes no fucking sense and just makes it way more confusing to listen to what they're saying this movie it makes less because it's so isolated every there's not like sense of a world around them really at all? Where are the parents anybody molly? Oh I missed the call at one point and we get the classic classic line of the parental units call for rental unit alert goes that was an expression in the nineties absolutely hated. Ah Units do it but the only like parental figures you have in this movie is Christine Baranowski. Who is Sir Racist? Total races some of Blair's mother Yeah completely shitty to the dude from save the last dance. Patrick Tom. Is that poor bastard in this movie you will always whenever you say his name. It's like being on a weird bike because I'm like Sean Patrick flanery or Shawl bantering metric planner. And I'm the handlebar. I wish wish people could see the handlebar active important to do that. It's proved that Steve Never learned to read a bike. I'm writing a by B Bowen. Oh a nurse. Ratchet is the aunt of Reese Witherspoon. She also played Kyw win on deep space nine. Yes give maybe some jeeps as nine. Did y'all do a Philip. She's fillets at yes. Is Reese Witherspoon Air for the summer which people know each other like my daughter is like GonNa be around other rich people so let's hit them up. I don't know I don't know what they hear. It's kind of. It's that plus like eats very clearly good old French thing that never got excised from the novel like it's like Oh oh Mama will will will put you up for the summer over there while it takes me an I own a year and a half to traverse the modern times this curled fucking hotel. I think the other thing though is like because they just have these sprawling estates which I could never figure out. Is it Westchester or is it long island. Why should it ever sp I think I saw with a window locations they filmed that was long island? Okay because when she's driving out of the city at the end of the movie. She's like driving north to Westchester them. But I think at the beginning getting in the movie when we see Ryan driving into the city. He's supposed to be coming from long island not that they ever specified. They don't mention any real locations. Also don't set most of your movie on the Upper East side the dullest fucking place in Manhattan to set anything so can just a an article about not getting laid and get like take into one of these castles scheme. Yeah I actually as a young girl wrote an article for Seventeen magazine EXE- about how I would never have sex before marriage which I don't know. Take that Seventeen magazine. You got scared in the threat of it is like seventy is going to take that away at some point look if she ever has just a yearly thing. Yeah it's like there's a lot about reputations in this movie which is I get it on some level because they're like rich white kids and reputations are very important but on another level it does seem like it's cut from a completely different society. Yeah exactly and you need the C.. Cash aid being spent with other people like these four characters. You don't don't get the circle of ball seen that they could go to or something just this summer the summer ball a gala. Thank you John End of Summer Party. Something it's weirdly claustrophobic permanently. That's set in all of these Big York Ville Mansions and like a masquerade ball would have been really sex right well. This is ninety nine. Wasn't that also. The Year of Eyes Wide Shut Eyes Wide Shut. Junior deepali plays like the little old tiny toons version of eyes wide shut. That's titans by the way. Another instance where you can't really tell if they're in high school or college. Yeah except for the fact that they go to a a Luna versity. You're supposed to in college. But they're like little kid because they also have really cool spring break so I feel like the foul Hiller Spring break cartoons. Yeah so we start with Suzy. Kurtz is his therapist and we get like really bad nineties therapy gags you know what I mean. I'm billing you by the our Blah Blah Blah and Kinda surprised. There was no like valium jokes yet at loved antidepressant jokes in the nineties also instead they do the. What about Bob Book Joke? Yes yes which is bullsh- The great she has written a Ha- she has written a book. That's great parenting. And she books him for the book after being like this will help you do everything. Although he's he's becoming a parent no she just wrote the book and it's trying to unload it and just going to bill him for. Yeah that's one way to sell copies of your book and Pretty Unethical as affair. There's like really bad there. Yeah this Susie. Kurds played a similar character. Actor in dangerous liaisons with John Malkovich because she's also in that movie. She plays some ablaze. Stand in Oh oh is that right. That's not Michelle pfeiffer no Michelle Pfeiffer for Israelis withers is love it this is a proud tradition and heritage like she continues to play roles in liaisons. Oh Yeah I was sure. They went to John Malkovich numerous times that he said absolutely not. Maybe that's why there's no like you know like school headmasters. Because that's the Malkovich movie. I don't win. Do you finally get some in being John Malkovich. I think I gotta watch me to totally overdue for yes. So what does the deal though. So he screws screws over susie Kurtz because he posts pictures of her daughter online new photos. Haka out out this for one motherfucking moment. I wrote down in my notes. Sebastian is a sexual terrorists. Revenge Porn. Yes it's one of the earliest incidents at the foreign movies insane and they're playing it for laughs but it's like he took pictures of her and put them up online to ruin her reputation in by. You know how also ruined her mother's reputation like it's more vengeance against the mother but like this daughters victim and it's like the movies like uh isn't this great. Look at this cool dude in this duster that just fuck this lady over built a real deal like kind of fancy for nine hundred ninety nine website. The Rally Pictures Animation an animation studio this Guy Salleh Bin Laden of revenge porn and we the audience are Al Qaeda because we're supposed to joy fair enough L. Audience. He does so many things in this movie that are not okay and to the point of like really reprehensible and like he changes but not really yeah and dies. I'm Kinda clapping. It's great I was tackling the bad car rag doll out. That was beautiful. It's not quite on par with meet Joe. Black and Brad Pitt. ooh That's still has the trophy totally. But yeah it is weird the Nudie thing and you're supposed to be like got her are you know it'd be like you as the audience like got that I love seeing a girl. Credit whom cool to at this guy's the hero of the film. Yeah they do position him like that because then the mother is like banging on glass. Like you're GONNA be like screwed right over you. And then he's like looking up and then a girl comes up to him and she's like Hi. I'm like Clarisa and he's like Oh really. Yeah let's do stuff that's pretty much. The extent of it like she's got like googly eyes for this dude from the a jump immediately. Start Holding hands do they. I miss that way. They have their hands as far as nineteen ninety nine. WHO's five foot seven and ninety one impounds? You had to be like Holy Shit. WanNa fuck that. Look at that duster again. I say the duster in this movie. It's summertime it's summer in New York City. You were at a huge fucking duster dude. What are you doing this mustard or not even mustard? It's like Shit Brown and tie Combo after the same Shimmery kind of color. The whole like the suit jackets are also kind of like fucking uncle fester. He's the most popular guy in school. School the guy that were a suit. All the time was a Weirdo in your school. Weirdo is a Weirdo. I like feel like people would actually think he's kind of squeezy considering his reputation reputation is that like ten to screw screw women but screw them over got process right so I don't understand his popularity. Catherine's popularity clarity played by the great the amazing the beautiful five three Sarah Michelle Gellar. I could see how she she could be popular right. Because she's Wayne and I would like totally be trailing around her but she's also to face purposely but he's just like I'm an asshole deal with how cutting who you're really aggressive. I like Eh. So he leaves this therapy session. This is we are introduced. Sarah Michelle and Kristine. Baranowski is using her as like a introduced. My my daughter Selma Blair into the schools. You know social pool tape again. That's something that makes sense. Fuck in nineteenth century France. If you're like this the daughter show her so that she with the nearest taverns ours was like my daughter's going to school and I need to prepare her the summer before. I guess it's again you know for like Nineteen Ninety Nine New York City Times. It's like well. She's the senior. And there's GonNa be a freshman you're take her under your wing kind. The thing this kind of thing I feel like sure. Yeah no their parents units like hey talk to them. Exactly you help me out. You attended her coming out ball. Oh you know. Prepare for the next level of social sophistication or whatever virginity masquerade. And this is I mean this says she is just playing a little child. She's wearing the Koala t-shirt right that like her and her father went on a vacation down under and he's like oh how are things down under. Blossoming I hope skirt in front of also Christine Barinski. She drops a line about like. Oh and the time that Sebastian traumatize the school nurse. I didn't think it'd be going back after that. What happened there? What was that? What the fuck? What because the same thing to Hannibal? Lecter did to to the nurse Stout bent over him. He beat her face on what he's rich. So it's fine. Exactly he just got a little slap on the wrist. He got sent home early from school that day. But that's the joke is that I'm going to bring up again is that he's not it's not like he's just a ladies man he's like destroys people and gets off on that add more than even the sex. Yeah and that seems like a difficult thing again for the hero of the movement that says King. Stephen you have to support it because yeah it's a James Bond thing like this is the greatest spy he fucks. Everybody tells everybody's name shoots all the time and nobody saulius mystery man. I don't think it's a mystery as to what Sebastian's getting up when they all act like that they all act like because that's dude that is the rich strata. It's just like turn a blind eye to everything. Money will fix it all kind of a situation you know I guess so. The the the thrust thrust of this movie unintended. Is they come up. Sarah Michelle and Ryan Philip his characters. Who are step brother and sister? Come up with this this sexual bet that I kind of am still trying to figure out the stakes. Yes and if you if you think about it too much you're head starts to consult with competed figuring all the angles of this movie. It doesn't really make sense for the basis of a movie because it's not high enough steaks. Oh God that sounds terrible but you know what I'm just like like He. He shows her the article in Seventeen magazine of Reese Witherspoon character and he's conquest because she wants to ruin some a Blair's character. Okay her ex. Oh my God this is confusing. Wait a minute your free. Her ex the lesser O'CONNELL. Oh right throws it would checked it on that dude lately he is. He looks like he's been in a house fire. Ridden Charlie. Oh like you was Freddie Krueger. The aged poorly jerry. O'CONNELL is you know a handsome young man young. Yeah I just hope. He hasn't gone like full. Aaron Carter Yeah. I really don't know what that young guys. He's just gone crazy. It's seems it seems really unfortunate. He just went like like Amanda Binds. Whatever simpler alert but like he's also blaming his backstreet boys brother over things? Yeah there was a whole thing where he was like I cut off contact with my whole fucking family including that backstreet boy. I don't really know. I just know that Chris was very distressed because he's huge. Aaron Carter Music. What he's doing on the backstreet? Anyway I would cut the Matt of life. You're right Eric. You're right you know. So Ryan Philby the stakes are and I guess the time line is he. He hasn't till the end of summer. Sure he has to sleep with reese witherspoon if he does not he has to give Serra Michelle his awesome car if he does is Sarah. Michelle will have sex with him and he can put it anywhere. Thanks a lot. Eighteen year old girls saying this and this movie what are we fucking doing. I was such a superior like what like your hand when you watch this last night. The first time you met my ear. There's flopping against the year. It's Ken Coleman. You have to support it. Didn't take the heart and he makes he makes us face Elec. ooh Yeah Yeah. That's the one that cinches it. He's not going to do it and then she's like put it anywhere. You're and yes sir. She goes in the bathroom and fucks or Loofah. And he's like uh-huh you said I could but then also there's the detour of like he finds out that Christine Borowski Lansky was talking shit about him to somebody and then he's like I'm also going to fuck Selo Blair and ruined her life. Assembly Bransky thing has nothing to do with the bet. It doesn't doesn't. That's what's confusing about the movies. You're like why is he spending so much time on this other thing so then I was trying to figure out what stake some Blair was in the bet and then eventually really John was like no. There's nothing yeah it's just a side forestation Gillard just wants to get back at her quote unquote Nazi ex-boyfriend. which is Charlie Dot Com? Or whatever and I think O'CONNELL there is like one shot of him in the move. Yeah he's just laying on a bed and that she heard that he liked some Blair so this gets added into the. Oh totally missed that even though that's not even what we're focusing on. And they make sex again like vampirism she's I'm GonNa make occur into the premier slut of the school by having sex with one guy and then like you know what I mean like. Is it GONNA lead to more sex. I assume it doesn't really make sense. Eh Now highlighted the language there Steve The thing that I that it was a mystery to me for about five minutes during doing this. I'm sorry to bring us back to it. But the webpage he makes about Tara Reid sure it highlights the word slut and it's like saying it I I was just saying that and then it cuts it comes back all the sudden it saying you are a slut. You are my book in the fricking word. That's a website that calls me. That's the Internet. Okay see ninety nine Internet. That's a big thing. Meanwhile this guy who set up this website which in ninety nine wasn't as easy as today and services and he's telling he said the the only people who use e mail or Geeks and pedophile 's classic line of dialogue so they only communicate with written letters like we're in France and the talk and door a one thousand nine hundred forty movie like a letter to three wives like everybody is writing like these these long letters and it's it's really funny to watch because I'm like this movie will be so different if it was made today like with the same angle of. We're doing it for teens. Because because I'm like there's no phones and it's just really weird with the letters and I'm like a letter from Ua Jim who is in their now. You know what it is is that the original book is an Epistle airy novel letter it is yeah you learn. There's something every day. Wait Chris Camp and are you trying to say that cruel intentions has something smart about it happening. I if you WANNA call it that seventy call Mr Kumble Campbell. Arnie believe what it's for I take me until somewhat set it it so yes. Her side mission is to destroy her life and Philippine goes up to and again like go to Long Island's a fucking hassle and a total total side. Exactly whatever it's fucking sucks to get out there. And he goes and he meets reese witherspoon who I mean like. I think that you could tell that she was going on. Election was the same year. She's like good in right. Yeah she's got nothing to do this. The paper then character. She's not even like the bad girl I guess he's the good girl but there's nothing to play with this year. I mean like because you need to see her much like election actually like swimming in the student population like interacting and seeing how she is at school. Because that's what they sort of portraying her as she's sort of like nerdy cares about class kind of headmasters daughter the new headmaster and when she gets she published in Seventeen magazine that sets us from Kansas City Kansas. Yes so it's like a precious from prep school out there and it's the dad is now taking over this prep school. They go to and I guess it sounds like fucking French thing. Exactly alster Ulster. Yeah I think like a huge problem with this movie. And we've touched on this. Is You know we don't really get to see Sarah Michelle Gellar and Reese Witherspoon. Play off each other and do a whole good girl batgirls dichotomy which is trying to do you need to see them play off each other. You only see it like that one scene gene like you know when they're in the bathroom towards the very very end of the day. Yeah so that's a big problem and they're pretty good in that scene to your point. That's actually like one of the best things in the movie that you're yeah I would watch all of that. Absolutely I kind of thought the same thing and I was like this movie's four minute. And it finally found the thing after like an hour and a ask for interacting with some Blair like she only interacts with the aunt and Ryan Philipe. And that's it. Yeah she's just locked down in his aunt's home which I feel is another kind of outdated like you're not leaving the grounds you'll stay with me. And he comes in these Philip as being like like to face to her right to the and Oh aunt whatever I remember man. Yeah is this where she sets them up to like a volunteer with okay. One of the the things that kind of get started around here but it does go throughout. The movie is just rampant homophobia that you're about to bring that in this when he first meets her and and like he hits unreas- Witherspoon and she's not having it he's like o our God it gay and she's like what and he's like. Oh sorry real. Lisbie vibe from you. Aaron Aaron Aaron Aaron Aharon late nineties and white people love that fucking the word lesbian was a total punchline. Yep Watch that friend season it's it's very close to friends almost entirely. You have one black character in the movie set in New York City. homophobe advances. The only thing you're missing if somebody fat suit. Yeah the only thing you're missing and then it would just be friends. I would kill for a coffee shop in this movie out of just about other people around just yet please go. To his second location we would never become dead in a coffee shop presents offi. We're not going to central park today. No Oh Ben. Said drew perk. He so he finds out that somebody wrote her in advance another handwritten letter or with perfume on it but said comfort him on the front that said that he was a scumbag steer clear clearer and he doesn't know who it is so he goes to Joshua Jackson again. Welcome to Homophobia town Joshua Jackson with his hair dyed like peroxide. Blonde man is is this something and he is vamping it up and it is so uncomfortable. I'm Mike Moments and they're also it's weird thing and I feel like if you thought about it like this is definitely coming up and other movies to like. He's the gay guy who's also the drug dealer conflation of that. It's like well. Well he's got to go to his dealer who's also gay. Obviously it's the nineties. He's also the only other character who is like out and other than I guess Christine Branch out and out evil like like he's like I'll do this. Shirl take money to like set up this honeypot for this guy. because there's a blackmail scheme. Yeah and so. What does the deal here? It's like This dude is somebody's reese witherspoon. Best friend best friend. Oh that's right. Yeah wrestlemanias who is the second or third crow. I lost carol no really occurred. I just remember him on ugly Betty on that. Oh and he's on all those hallmark movies. STV's third-row excuse me. It's the third I want everybody to know I was the second one for a long notes. Martine right and yes maybe sounds all maybe it was this guy in that trailer by the way I haven't watched yet but what is surprising. Kept his haircut from Blade runner twenty forty nine. I'm sorry I'm thinking more. Oh yes I don't know how God why watched that trailer. I watched that trailer too. I know exactly why I'm wearing comic. Book T. Shirt right now. I watched it and I did not enjoy enjoy. Is that right. Yeah what does this teacher. You have the Saga Great. I read a couple of volumes to and then yeah and it was hard to keep up. It was the thing I get into the comics. Rile by like two trades. And I'm like this is amazing. Can't wait to continue. What's that it's been four years? uh-huh comics are hard to keep up with their also really expensive hobby which is why like go in and out. So I'll I'm sort of in right now like like reading a few things although some of the things I'm reading I think I'm GonNa stop like the Batman Book. I'm totally not is not as good feeling I'm not really feeling in for a little bit. What's the Batman up to these days? Now the jokers back he's back and I'm like all this bitch man. The fifty red lipstick are beat his ass like come on stream or does he have like a suit on a suit on so he's not right like you know at his face or anything that was dark here was stopped the faceoff joker thing like no thank you. That sounds pretty extreme. I'm just is a character that feel works in smaller doses and the problem is people are so obsessed with that character that you won't won't be able to do the smaller doses like. I don't really think he should be seeing that much. No it should be. He shouldn't run his own thing. It should be like drips and drabs. A little DAB will do you. It's almost Muslims to our feature film about the characters weird and doesn't entirely work and could have been a piece of shit a piece of shit. So what is the deal. So how does Joshua Jackson know that. This dude is on the down low. Because that's coming up. Yeah they all are in like on. So he's it's like I'm willing to have him come over. You can conveniently pop and the stroke of midnight as a rub this Phallic object. which is commit isn't pretty her? I mean. The guy is like outwardly homophobic. So he's not a great guy but he is closeted. You know what I mean like. It's it's a shitty thing to do. It makes him about. This is his Kim. Can you got to support it. Yeah it's really shady thing and but what's also shady is the fact that he calls himself the Greg stor Yes yes absolutely complete with personalized license. Plate wait there. The person there is. I think it's when the sequence starts and it's like Ryan Philipe is going to Joshua Jackson's and the Greg Stir has parked outside and like Greg something like is the license plate. And then there's there's some other sticker that's like totally awesome or whatever it says and Ryan Philip rips it off the bumper before he goes in the house like just another. Fuck you you like. This dude gets like maliciously outed and he's like well at least. I still have my bumper sticker on that beautiful moment because I was probably lighting. Yeah and it gets washed away. Because he's got the duster and you know but yeah there is some sort of personalized license plate situation that lets you know. The Greg Stir is in town got a Shitty Devi cameras king video footage as well of their hooking up kind of a thing and it's like you know nine thousand nine hundred nine digital video so it looks like garbage garbage like all of those. What are you talking about looking at resolution? You can't tell anybody in there with Jesuit JAG gesture tactic. You get some more lighting in here this overhead this was the nineteen ninety s and we wanted Joshua Jackson to be in movies. And I don't know why. Because he's Joshua Jackson I unloved. I've a weird sauce for Joshua Jackson. I'd like watched way too much am wrote too much about the affair partially for him. I haven't seen any of that but we were big fringe household. I love France totally so it was that you know he is forever Pacey. He's river. You know the the main kid from all the mighty ducks movies. This is like six years after the mighty ducks. I think. My Dutch like ninety three never translated to fill is what that's yeah he's he's a TV guy and that's absolutely but you can t. I mean there were these. TV move like not not TV movie like we think of broadcast you know movies being broadcast on television but like movies released theatrically in the nineties. You'll again jobs as it was like. WBZ that's like you had this like something like What was that movie with Urban Legend in popular these movies with television actors teen dramas were the rage on TV. And we had to populate like Party of five Dawson's Austin's I don't know vampire slayer which I was surprised. Just doing like the the time line math here. Buffy was in its third season when this movie came out and it's like well she's top bill she is no. I know but it's weird. It's like you're in this big TV show and you're doing this shitty movie. She tried to do some movies with this. She did that. Universities simply irresistible. Okay yes I which one is that that the magic chef one was that why eh romantic comedy like going crazy. It's earned Sean Patrick. Flanery not Sean Patrick comment magician. That cooks food. No they're trying to figure eric now. No she's a chef okay and all of a sudden like she gets like magical powers or clocking tools lab or something. I do not remember this more than once. Don't remember you haven't seen it more than what we have. It's more than Chris Gavin. I remember remember it. I remember her in liquor chef's coat that's what I remember. I've seen it. I showed my simply text. Are they playing simply resistible throughout the movie. They gotta play at least one. I don't think they do actually like the Fuck Palmer. must've been pissed. Feels like I think it's old Jangle Reinhardt. Songs and stuff like French French. You'll kind of thing. Is it a remake of a French Phil. I think it's a remake minute talion l.. That's weird and she also did the Scooby Doo movies. which those were like in the two thousand movies they movie they did so it was twenty four frames a second basis? That you can sue I now when I come out of like screenings and like I don't like the movie I was like that's movie in a movie. It's kind of the same response. I give the publicists that trade screen and he's like well. It was a movie. It wasn't you Got Images on a screen congratulations. She's in one great movie. which is southland tales view? The point I mean this fight has been rehashed and all I have to say is I guess I should go back and back. And what do you think of that movie in Telugu. I didn't care for it. See that's that's how I felt. I saw with Chris Cabin and the back of the planet. Hollywood square it was kind of the perfect place to see. What is it a screening cappos? Basement it's a screen room. That smells like chicken tenders. Okay I had to Cut My hand and squeeze the blood over the entrance. Gotten Nice. Yeah uh-huh so what do you mean. We're opening this planet. Hollywood New York City. There's no screening room. How am I going to screen all of my movie? These good appointment when you destroy any room with the two of them does yelling contractors. Ach Nine it didn't mean the screening room. I met screaming to come here to New York and scream. The Jackie Chan is like the fourth investor. In that franchises. It is like yeah. I guess that's fine. Go ahead screening room. And it's amazing what they use that space for the leg. Press screenings of stuff like that. I went to like a opening of of a Broadway show after party that whereas Adam dirty and the chicken tenders of tourists coming up later oh imposed romantic antics sequences. So he finds out that he gets Eric. Maybe a side is that you have to run interference and tell her I'm a good guy or else you know. The JIG is up kind of got a website waiting for you buddy. Exactly you're not my website. It's GonNa be me and this fucking Shitty RealPlayer application et eh GonNa play a grainy fucking constantly lagging video of you in bed with Joshua checks so let me get this straight on this next one. You want me me too. Just have a flashing. You're not a virgin on top of it okay. I could do it. I mean how much. How long do you need me working class whereas web design? I went right after this scene is the very famous were sitting in the park kissing scene. Yes set the scene I. She's brushing her hair. Oh yeah getting a go in for so like all the hair people out there against the weirdest part about the only realized that this last time I watched it was Sarah. Michelle Gellar is like. I have a two face and Jeevan kind of talks unclearly. That's her pathos Marsha fucking Brady all the time. But I'm really this evil person. I'm the Marsha fucking Brady of the upper east side. ooh that line stinks thinks. Sometimes I WANNA kill myself throw that right in. That gets the fucking sentiment. Go as he doesn't. I like Sarah Michelle a lot character. Her personality she doesn't have the beef for this role. I don't know okay so I'm torn about this role like I. I Love Sarah Michelle show. Geller I'm like a Sarah Michelle. Gellar apologies March tenth. Nineteen ninety-seven when I heard that buffy theme song that Shit Changed My life is one of the shows that Lego very precious about I. I don't like like anything else just we. I really have a soft spot for buffy and there are some times where she really works in this role and then there's other other times where she has line readings that are like whole Larry. It's like there's supposed to be like an show that she's like a bad ass or she's not to be fucked with but it just makes you really fucking laugh. I'm doing those line. Readings made me think like. She's just pissed off. She has to say those things also probably poor direction correction. Yes we'll see from Mr Looking autour. She has the line that was so bad. Like I had to tweet it would. She's like I hate when things don't go my way. It makes me so horny. What she says the first part and then there's some sort of like image break then she says and it's in the and it's like those who statement? Don't go together but like she says it that way and isn't that when she starts doing the handwriting that is the is. She seated on top of him wake reaching behind herself. Yeah it's like a reverse reach around. Yeah just say as someone who has given hand jobs. I found that pretty awkward made me question. Her technique sprained a wrist. I mean that's very dangerous. Maneuvering that's gone down like they should make like afford versus sorry about hand job. I'd watch like the American guy's got to give a better hand job. These Italian Ferrari hand job one day. Tone a five hundred every year. I guess we'll just see WHO COMES I. It's it's either man the both trying to get Tracy letts off. Is that or call odd. Watch it I'm also also the industrial slacks. That he's wearing at the time time like you know what I mean. There's a zipper involved. It's about you don't see anything that's going on there. No you know which is fine fine again because we're This close to pornography of so. She's my she's trying to portray this really great. You know clean cut girl girl for high school. But she's making out with women in the park like you walk in the park ride daylight. They don't they do you like the kiss. I liked without tongue and someone Blair's all like Oh my God. Wow this feels great. I don't know man I worried about her and then they do it again with tongue and then it's like gets even close even closer and there. It is really like paying attention tinted. And even get a little like gruel yep just were just enough just enough combo coverage look how many cameras we got on them. I know guys come on this is it's a real production need coverage for the male gaze. We'll make fucking KRILL intentions. Let's go you got blur airplane in the background just hit it opened with placebo. which is a band? I liked back then man. Marcy playground Ronda besides the Joshua Jackson. It's a great soundtrack. I could say maybe the best part about this movie by a country mile but the eric babies is afraid of being murdered in the street for being gay and she's making out with this woman in the in the middle of central park being the Marcia Brady of the upper east side. It doesn't make sense. Some someone would have seen her like you know it just the again. The problem is they're like social world isn't fleshed out enough. We like legit. Don't know really in many people that they deal with. So it's hard to kind of place any any contact all about like your your you know your reputation. You don't ever see see what that even means. Marcia Brady at all like not even to Baranowski I think very very loosely because Ryan Phillipi comes into that seemed like immediately at blows it all up. That's a Brady Brunch brunch. The Bun shrunk pretty much reference. I'm not familiar with this at the slutty woman. I don't know it's not a legal outer Marcia Marcia Marcia she's the popular. They're trying to say you couldn't escape the Brady bunch of the nine talking. There was those two movies man. I saw those actually doing see what they're giving up for them. I wonder if there's cause I saw those movies. Like when they came out and was probably like Kinda too young to understand what they were doing as well. Well this is just. I didn't get that it's like them still living like it's the seventies but it's the ninety S. That was the joke. Yeah as my little kid brain. It was like well. That doesn't make any sense. I was too busy with the cone heads. But did you guys talk show. I saw it on. reruns probably have watched some. That sounds like most else brady as much I love the seventies. You'd watch by going Black Aktau because that's what we're all doing. Okay enjoy your shared narrative over here enjoying his cliff in the backyard. Yes I had A. I grew up with a cliff in the backyard. That's correct and it's a lovely. It is it's not bad we're not live on the air you could take uh-huh pass the beer cab was a jewel thief Personal Rafiki. But she's seducing sing her with her wiles to get into the dark side which is sex at all not it's not like I'm going to seduce you to have sex with you. It's like I will make you aware of your body and this look very bizarre. Eric Way Right. It's the vampire wanting to awaken things in. Yes before they take you and make you a child forever. Yeah that was the emperor was up to that. Were Star Wars. That movie man still trying to figure it is connection on Christmas. And I'm still mad. Fuck I got out of it and I was like you know like I ain't about star wars like that like I don't really know Oh and shit but the fluxes moved corrective tonight my office at home. It's like the true detective wall with now. Kylo so in big black marker just building like a little statuette of torn beer grandfather in the middle of it with a question Ark of just keep on watching. TV screaming now. I found out and I got better. Now I'm going to buy Tuck your mouth when I do that to your tongue with my pillow. But it's because the emperor was using oil naming the shit coming out of his dzhokay. You wear my step granddaughter. I love that in the Star Wars universe. We still have step relative taste but they she said what. Are you trying to your friend Ronald Sometime. Sean Patrick Thomas User Cello Teacher Shallow Jersey kind of come and again like I have a lot of sympathy for Ronald but the question remains how old the Selma Blair you know what I mean like. Yeah like okay. Hey I'm I'm thirty so I don't remember how old I was when I came into high school. Hell older you that yeah well. She's on she's bringing eight to sixteen in there. That's where I played it because I went to one of those weird high school it was a it was almost like the schools where it's like. It's one room in everyone's in the same grade because I was seventh through twelfth guys go school. The Great Depression rooms the rural areas of this country are still in the Great Depression. I was at the same school. K through eight fifth grade five times ten year bit You're fine bit exactly in Out of sight. When I got out I took off my through it on the floor But she she realizes that there's something going on there and again like is Ronald Ronald told as pre juilliard which means he's probably like seventeen seventeen or eighteen and it's like the or he could be a lot older. That's the thing I don't know I read him as a little bit older. Because he's like a cello instructor the college age to you. Know what I mean. That's how that reads which and Ronald Ronald Does have difficulty in the movie. And I'm on Ronald side right but then I'm like dude as a Negro I go no I trust the dude. There's this moment this is a little like a head where Catherine play ritual. geller is watching a video of ood. Oh yeah of Selma Blair and the Ronald Character. And like she does his little Hanson and has her legs spread and right and he's straight up looking at. It's just like Ronald Ronald you can drink Ronald. Don't do this to yourself. Man Risk plenty come on shirts. Man could easily made everyone college not that it makes no sense whether or not just all just in college and we got to see some collar stuff like I WANNA light which I. I don't know whatever I did. I don't remember but they kind of then did that movie when they adapted it's a Bret Easton Ellis this book Rules of attraction. 'cause I remember that being sort of like a spiritual cousin in this movie movie one time But like they're in College Collagen that movie rikers battle. And like that. It's a shitty movie. But like it feels okay because everybody's of a a lot of this creepy genus exactly. But like I guess if it's not a way to fix this movie but if the movie in any way acknowledged that all of this was weird which it does not know. It's just like kids playing grownup and it is very uncomfortable. If you start thinking about I think that was the thing was Mr Kumble was like you know what as long as nobody thinks about this too hard I can get away Scot for the purposes like too serious like the way they're talking to each other about their schemes and ship. Yeah I think this is the same year as American Pie. Yeah Yeah Yeah. She's which is also high school sex but they go comedy that makes it work more. Yes sillier fine silly sex. Yeah a big. The problem with this movie is that it takes too seriously and I wish it was like a little bit like Sillier and away and sort of because there's moments where it's almost campy. Campi is Katharine Sarah. Michelle gellar line readings. I'm lake. You're really amping it up and it's just like why not just lean lean into that sort of craziness but then some it chooses to take itself too seriously especially when it comes to Ryan. Philip and Reese Witherspoon. Relationship is very very very earnest and I was very very bored looking at them argue or look at each other like wow. We're so blonde. We're we're talking about because it's totally from just a completely different movie like whenever they go in and scenes with the two of them. You'll like all right well. This isn't the other thing the other thing. Though that's really obnoxious Knox's it's a movie screenplay things it's really clever with some of the lines and there's a ceremony shell lend. That's absolutely awful as she she's reacting to something in Philippians Donner said and she says something like will don't do this with the speed of hurdler from the Special Olympics like. Yeah that's A. That's a joke like it's supposed to be a joke. In the screen dishes star trek the next generation line and missed it she calls him picard or something boldly go where no one has gone before Picard Picard. And it's like Character Watch Star Trek the next generation but I was not deflowered virgin splurge such a great dip down into her neutral Alpe. What's this little? Lets you watch that show. He'd never touched anyone who was under mid forties and that is the absolute right. It's actually that is why I loved him. I was like I had a crush on a card as a young girl. Oh Yeah I knew he would never look at me the same way because I was uh-huh you say that but you've never seen the young picard. Steve Oh yeah. That's true all right Mr Today. Now I'm going to put my tongue in your mouth when I do that day. Your robot massage. Mike done with a nice picnic. I've made for Data on the holiday slash. That definitely exists by the computer coffee and TV by blast all right holiday initiate cruel intentions excellent just that scene computer computer repeat. Yeah look she's like trying to get SOMMA Blair to have sex with Ronald Ronald Ronald wants. The other more letters are being written right because Ronald It's revealed is written tons and tons of letters to her is moving needs to be like what the the fuck with all of this manual correspondent. What are we talking about? Pick up the phone. You Got Shitty cell phones. In this movie used they're not all nerds and pedophile. Do it can't do it so dumb but they can make intricate websites. Yes they can. I wish there was a thing like when he goes website. There was like a little counter for the visit by it would just be like two zero zero zero zero zero to a sex crime web ring web ring. Yeah uh-huh Yeah I'm GonNa Ruin Tara Reid's life but you need to do my friend to help me ruin her life. Good Geo Cities Dot com slash Ryan Philipe forward slash slash user forward slash Harry. Reid is a slut forward slash. NPR three four passion. Everyone who's in is on Angel Jill fire now that is a blast from the angel fire. We're talking around. Ask Your parents. Just think of live journal Tumbler. And I don't know there's probably another one. Those are Old Lady. Welcome is used. Now it's all ticked faulk. Okay imagine you post on Tick Tock there you go. That's imagine the same shit someone's hacked by ticket talks over Picard zing acts by I like just watch the new car show a few episodes of reviewing it for vulture us. You know by the time this comes out we'll be we'll have been out for a while but now I'm imagining like older picard. Making all this even worse. Yeah it's Mytalk Mytalk let me show you my chateau and the dog. Oh my number one number one in high Q.. Such unless you've seen episodes we're recording this. The Eve of the premier your yeah so yeah it will be CBS. It's all access to the office a little late tomorrow morning. Watch Picard Hope. He does the same thing as with the brandy and once upon a time and I wanted Mr Wolf this is the last of your bad idea and you are on our Horsey Komo Chumpol run. CEO Dr Protocol McLeod. They love it around here is when he's so Philip as like full-on. Let's make this concerted effort to try to ruin. Reese Wins Life. So he's gotTa do it by playing the Nice Guy. This is around when they go on this date to the old folks home. I sure 'cause nurse. Aunt nurse Ratchet Ratchet. What's the actress name? I feel as Fletcher thank you. I'm calling her fucking nurse Ratchet win an Oscar forgot her she yeah she wants Eh. Should've just looked at the WIKIPEDIA page but I was high very very high. This is why you shouldn't work from home. Mm Kids 'cause you don't get as much work done because you're smoking the weed but it's a better environment is a veteran virus. Your card right up just about the dogs for for about don spur. It's just about. How like different he drinks his earl grey? Now I noticed. ooh ooh Earl Grey DECAF. Oh really it was like wow DECAF because my fucking heart will explode my fake heart that I at least let your did win the Oscar. Oh okay good for her. She's a good actress. And this shitty movie I mean I feel like she's added to give it a little influence. Flo Gabby task an academy award winner. So she's like Oh. I need volunteers for the old folks on. But I've got tickets worship guys gotta go like a real woman. We're we're we're missing a few important things before we get to this elise. One of the things is Katherine Decides to Tell Christine Baranowski Lansky. Doesn't she tell you though right this video about Selma Blair and Patrick Thomas. John Patrick talking talking to three first names. WHAT IS HE GONNA kill? The president bothers name. I don't know why wait anywhere because you could be standing in the shadow even assassinate any turn is Blair tells Sarah Michelle Gellar where she stores the love letter. Yes which then. She used to tell her mother her. It's just a weird it's just like Oh he's writing me love letters. You don't have to say you hide them in your dollhouse. Also leave the word dollhouse. uh-huh crawling over there. I think we're in this character and now she's got a fucking dollhouse but I'm freaking out. I stuffed them in my teddy bear. You might as well have said it. Yeah the little teddy bears back UNZIPS and all these love letters. But there's like this this moment moment work has like so Sarah Michelle Gellar and Christening Baranowski. They meet up win Sarah. Michelle is like going shopping. which is really fucking weird like you gotTA store? And then she's like brands like is it drugs in shock. It's worse black man but there's this this exchange where like Sarah Michelle gellar tells her like you know. I think there's something going on with Selma Blair Sean Patrick Thomas. And then I know she's so young and he so and then cruising Barassie screens black. Yeah possible is that her daughter could be uh-huh conversing in this mall food court or wherever they're supposed to be doing the shopping or whatever isn't a movie where there might be another black person other than one that would we almost like. Oh She's the out of touch one but in this movie where he's the only black guy. It's a black person it's like. Well what are we talking about. Yeah it's almost sounds like the voice of the the crew of the audience Like yeah if it was your commenting on this society level she was the Shitty old white lady which she is the Shitty old white lady. That's one thing but she tries to they. They squillacote's David by trying to make it a coffee joke after this. Yeah yeah because she's like says. Ah Brown sugar. Oh no no sugar. Our because someone's coming to fill her coffee. You're a waiter or something in this store service. I think she has like a handler. That goes around with her. It was that would've issues a Vietnamese made or something which is very weird by. She's just signed. I went as all. How just always she was? She was she but she's starring in that Oliver Stone Movie. What was that with? Tommy Lee Jones have an earth. Oh yes that is the same woman is it died like not long after this. I kind of Said career sure. It's not a long time ago and I don't know if it's good. It's always admits that stone. Well Yeah. It's an Oliver Stone on movies. So you're starting off already not great And like so she. She forbids them to see each other and she like yells at Ronald. And and there's like a Colin Powell joke here nineteen ninety nine. Oh that's like I'm not racist because I donated to Colin Powell replied. Yeah they're exchange is really really fascinating Christine Brands. Gay and Sean Patrick Thomas. When she confronts him it's it's really also like not not this movie? I you know deal with that someplace. I guess you put me in my place because you've donated to Colin Powell. There's also something where he's is writing a musical about Martin Luther King Junior. And I'm like I I like in my head I was like. Is that the black person they know. Like what the fuck kind of opera grab like the fuck when that's brought up. Some a Blair has some really corny line where she's like what does she say like. Oh I love Dr King Dr. Dr King's my favorite or something like that doctor. Yes I don't like the the fuck like don't sexily. You say that name sexualize doctor it just it really lets you know this woman. This girl doesn't know what sexes at all. So she's just like throwing sex on anything. Yes sex on anything in. That's why Katherine Has Sebastian sort of Get involved Down on her. which happens? I feel like before the the old folks right. 'cause there's like a weird moment where he's like stroking the tennis racket in licking his lips to remind her what happened. Well he also gets her drunk. He gives her a long island iced. Not The last time I was blackout drunk at three of those. Oh that'll do a thirty six year. Old Fat guy not a thirteen year old girl and Oh yeah because she's got some lines and again like this was to be like a joke. She's like this doesn't taste like ice tea and he's like it's from Long Island When you're fourteen he begins? Yeah he courses like now you gotTa Promise to let me kiss you. It's like no no no. I don't WanNa kiss you there when you're not gonNA break a promise on one of the things exactly this scene. Read so weird and like it's supposed to be again 'cause Selma Blair's older than Ryan Philip. It doesn't look that weird but it reads really weird. Yeah yeah so yes those horrible things but that's the twitter afterwards one thing to like do that. He had the tennis rackets uncomfortable but she she is such an infant yeah. She doesn't know that that she had an orgasm. She has to get confirmation like. Oh that's what was that feeling was. Yeah because she describes it and she's like oh it was like like an explosion and it's like Oh God are we doing. I'm like am I really here is really happened. I genuinely surprised. It didn't have to tell her that. Oh that's your vagina. That's the thing with China. And what's that is that on the Brady Bunch Task Marcia also cut to Mr Campbell's office like yeah. This is talk. Click Click Click Click. Click this this checks out. Yeah never talked an actual female human beings. Yes of the they go to Long Island. They're having sort of a lunch date and he's trying to do something here. This is where Louise is like. I think she says I have concert tickets. We'll just hilarious. Pictured or springsteen Djabel ready had the pool scene which is not famous Amos. But it's a pool so this will appease asks and Oh yeah. This is where it's supposedly this conspiracy goes all the way to the top man. I mean you see this behind. It's like fucking Aaron Rodgers and did like the. There's some flirtation but like she very pointedly pulls away from 'cause you're not a good guy. Well I am a good guy. 'cause I'M GONNA go fuck around old people for a little while how they play love fool go from like dot C. Music to like love pool like it's like grand like orchestration astray Shin Music. Oh you mean hopper what you're talking about the opera Carmen. So yeah it's like. He's pretending that he loves old people which come on. That's a life. Anybody tells you that I mean what are we doing what they're volunteering. And like he gets stuck with this one woman leaves assigned to this woman and he tries to like go with reese witherspoon and the orderlies like. That's not how this works. Let's go and spend time with another partisan and he's treating this woman like garbage and it's like again supposed to be funny because he's like saying stuff and she's hard of hearing so he's like a daughter last night excuse me. It's sad because he says to her like Oh we played like three games of backgammon. Only played three games. And you want. Hey time. And she's like oh I did. I don't remember that well. It must be my feeble brain. This poor little lady served served nice person based on this novel definitely. I don't trust him with this Old Lady. That's the one thing checked off yet. Ask Granny Steve. Do they report a second season. Age Gap love on not. That's a damn shame but but there is a show on we. TV called extreme love where they talk about Greenwich Agar's occasionally. It's like Faster when they do it or so going about it. It's a A. and solid you show so they're talking about a bunch of different vanishes okay. It's the same British lady narrating it. So what else do we talk. There was clown sex wchs coming. Joker play you know that existing lot of balloon popping popping habits. Yeah uh-huh fucking a balloon animal. The only way you can do it legally thank you you. I always your pockets patriot. Although this you guys should be Patriot supporters I am Oh yes and I and love all the content there thank you yeah we are dirtier. They're more of that on. Are you though. It seems like you're doing just fine here. Only public feed we get some fat boy slim coming up you like this is like at the fifty minute mark of a ninety eighty seven minute movie at this point I should be starting to move towards I kind of like Grind Philip. Yes if for this art to work in any serious way. Just berating thing this old lovely lady and then reese witherspoon falls for him in this roadster it just. She starts making funny faces to make him laugh. And that's you you know if you make a man. Laughed waited as heart. Oh my God. That's what marriage story told. It is much more dangerous to share a laugh with someone to the to have intercourse. Seattle really agree with also. She's mocking Ryan Filipi here. Because she's using her face and he can't do got it. All eyebrows could go this way and that look at how I changed. The dynamic of my is. I'm sad one moment on the next you close off the road. This is called a smile. Come on Sebastian. Do It is just explosives. And so oh and then he then him and Catherine Kinda have like a confrontation. Yes and that's when he said like she made me laugh and I was like reminds me of that. Marriage storyline really. It's very similar. Beijing Noah Baumbach like with his laptop. And he's like taking a break from writing and cruel intentions on these like say that people don't talk about a lot is that scarlet giants now driver are stepsiblings siblings. Part fucking hotter take place in Sebastian's often what is there a big fucking desk where he writes journal. And it's like is this your Dad's office you. You like kind of different. He's out of town or is it like your office. I feel like it's his dad's okay. He's he's playing he's like mill has like I'm calling daddy and the big people uh-huh Daddy's out of town. I do daddy's business. But this is when she goes stock market flintstones phone. Yeah but w talk sells sells you got it. Yeah but do yard best. This is when she reese. Witherspoon was tries to have sex with him and he won't do it because he's a chance it's such a fucking good guy. Oh the person's doing some weird reverse psychology. I'm I'm just GONNA leave. I'm just GonNa go to like the south of France or some like you know you enjoy your life just like just know that you're giving up on love and like you're going to look back at and like realize that's what you did because hypocrites fucking hypocrite doing hypocrite. Because you turned your back on you fucking remember that I'm fucking sixty-two. I've known you for three minutes. I'll get over the only been hanging out. We're like like a few day. Yes it was like the initial meeting and then the old folks home and then now this is not a long weekend here. It's a sixty hours. It's you deflowered child anyway. Cutting the gross ass motherfucker. I think he he's he's spent spent like just as much time with that orderly from the old folks. Whose real only line is you? Go on with your bed sell. Yeah sure okay thank you. But yes so then she would. He rejects her which gets her even more horny for him and this nagging right classic the planned giving part of his strategy. This is his home. Stretch Strategy Whoa always that dude's name mysterious. What have you ever seen the shows on? Vh One right and it was mystery. Missile the pick up artist. Yes I did watch a lot of that show because I used to wash lobby age when reality show flavor of love rock love like I used to be so fucking into that shit. I love trash. I mix up that show those Fox specials where the magicians were telling tricks. Wasn't the dude also wearing a mask or something. He had a big hand. Intend to have like Matrix. Wear those damned dusters again. Sex criminals reveal their secrets when he tells also Sarah Michelle what happened yeah. She's got a great line here that this is one of those like she just can't up off this line. You had the chance to fuck her and you didn't it just land so flat ideo a fucking line. She's also fucking Ronald at this point. Yeah that's right because Ryan Phillippe becomes home one day with some flowers or some shit like his ass is like hearing some moaning coming from Sierra Michelle's room and he comes in and like no one's there and then she's just like on the bed and a little slip. Oh I'm just I'm just here. I was just like moaning because that's just what I do. And then he like opens a drawer under her bad. And it's wrong just like in this drawer nice. It's also great because he knows the score when he goes up to the door and he kind of has a like clever girls. Yes here we go. This is our game now. We're GONNA open that door house we live in. I walk into my stepsisters room whenever she's fucking even though there's thirty rooms well that's that's her fucking room that actually her bedroll federalizing. That's the designated. Fuck space fucking has cobwebs so she is not buying his. I'm in love story and like then and he does have sex with her right then like immediately thereafter. It's not GonNa do it then we do yes. This is the colorblind Mont.. He picks her up at Penn station. which is a black black and sure it was a port authority? It might have been ported. Port Authority New York occas. She's she's GonNa skip town. Yeah Yeah Yeah no first of all. There's no Wade's fucking port authority. Because we don't take the bus. I think they say bus though I the train. Yeah th I. It's one of those but there's like a moment I got to bring up where like Ryan Philipe. Like after the whole like. Oh he he turns her down on realizing he can't do it where he liked closes the door and he's like looking in the mirror and he's like get it together you pussy uh-huh who wrote this shit you are Sebastian. Do Sex crimes sexual keep cheap enough money then they. He picks her up at at Port Authority or someplace they start making out of the platform and then they go into a bedroom and they have sex ax. And like he's feeling great. And then he Ceremonial Geller's like here's your prize. which is like this? It's it is very chilling. The way she presents serve you either. You Weird Gould. There is a weird way to. There's a better way to do that. Sean Patrick Thomas Actually has the line. That sums up this entire film this entire situation perfectly because in that scene were hiding in the draw like he's going to get out of there because it's getting really uncomfortable he goes. There's there's some fucked up shit in this house lutely these white people crates. And he's sexy and she gets really you know homicidal here about being rejected which is weird This is where the Marcia Brady lineup. Yes she's calling him a loser loser's she sends a lot of like you know there isn't that I don't know if the Marshall Brady lines earlier but she says like God forbid I exude confidence competence and enjoy sex girl. Just got your fucking Learner's permit was what do we talk about your child. I hope lease again. If she was a twenty five. That line would have some power. But he's fucking fifty five or if this was the fucking blythe danner moving now because they feel like blythe danner like this slew of movies where it's just like it's okay for people to fuck like if she was doing one of those like again. That line is all fucked three times. I want each time. That is sex when DOC. But you'll just for her to be like the seventy year old girl. It's okay for me to enjoy sex. What are you talking about teenagers? Talk about in nine hundred ninety eight talk talk about mousehunt and modest mouse. And that's it. I don't WanNa hear this shit. I don't know I wasn't like maybe this is just made because I wasn't having sex in high school go. It took I. I'm a late bloomer. Do I went to hot topic a lot. I was kind of a metalhead asshole. Yeah no I also spend a lot of time in angry. I T shirts admit something. Like I saw some birds of Prey Steph at hot topic and I was like doing a angels on your show and they're both Margot Robbie is Harley against trade coming up next Tuesday I am ready to attend. I'm going to press screening for it tomorrow and like I'm actually hype for this. Little birds of prey movie will see. I was kind of fun. Really Fun as characters. The best part of the movie movie that yet they took the best part of that Shitty shitty movie shady and gave it its own movie remember. Captain Boomerang Oh yeah I remember all five minutes. The Guy noted Australian potato each I e that's is there so this is when she's like you're going to ruin your reputation as the coolest guy in school Zev Morris and I'm like what the fuck you're graduating aren't you. Yes A or graduated and be this guy's the coolest guy the school does fucking weird pervert pervert like. He looks like he acts like the dude. Who just sort of jacking off next to you on the metro absolutely if they like cut to school scenes and no one gives a fuck about either along with them? They're just fucking nightmare our people. It'd be like sit here. He like Kathryn. That fucking Filipi. You jerk it offer. What sucks per forrest? GUMP Chris Rock San having so much worse said Dude. Can you believe that can Sebastian. He he was Shitty to Greg. Stir Oh my God is greg okay. Oh poor but yeah no. Oh my my perfect reputation. I have to like now break up with her to be cool. Still question-mark Y in the most dramatic scene possible. And like I just gotTa say it was really funny to me watching like Sarah Michelle like freak out after he turns her down and like say but I wanNA fuck yes just like way. Does that work. Is that what I should have. Just getting a room and scream it would. ooh That's the best part but she's one of the I would like to fuck. Yes that is the way I would like to fuck you got aggressive character. Yeah I would like to remind like Dennis Hopper Blue Velvet Arc. It is weird. She say Mary like have you ever fucked. I would like to fuck jeeves. Bring me a fuck fuck. You ordered reduce the amount. Thank you and he breaks up with her. It's a really yes. It is an overly dramatic scene. Apparently it was so wrenching for Rand Right Filipina seen that he threw up afterwards. Just like me watching and I don't even have a response really fucking AH fuck wrenching. You should be stretch. It yourself out grueling. Also like bitch. I saw that scene. You went stretching yourself. The bill is terrible accident that or the bad clubs the ad for lunch. He's not sure which rich if you acted so hard or it was a bad clan. It was either my craft or craft services but either way I nick did add that Directa Combo he said he wanted clans casino a craft service Ryan use it. Use It with palm it on her. It'll work for someone help her. And so this is sort of like the end of the movie where he's like. You wants to get her back because then he goes back Michelle girls now. Let's Fuck Shit. I don't fuck losers loose erse even though I wanna Fuck Fuck Fuck losers. I want to fuck. We'll she says right like oh I just lied to you. I made you break up with her just to fuck Kazue it just a toy sebastian. Delia rabbit it's like fucking snappy screenplay tricks reference yes she does and they they have some champagne pain and when she drinks it tastes good and he's like what the fuck like I was just like does that. It's not a human human beings respond like what the fuck is also. That's not how a seventeen year old procures alcohol and consumes any kind of classy way. It's like whatever we can fucking sneak from Dad's liquor cabinet go like chugging irresponsibly in the locker room or something. They're like toasting with crystal. They should just be aliens at the end of this. That would be outraged. Rip Their skin on Lizard. People are some species all over again way more sense for the way. They're talking about Asleep Sucking Canyon. Coto the aliens are putting people down here to have the Fox so they know what's going on or biology classes in outer space note on that rifle has a just random bowl of cherries next to go to emails. You've got one of those giant Rick Dole fucking whiskey sour mixers. You do not have A. It's is a Big Bowl of cherries. The big word that the symbolism a bowl of actual cherry's that cocktail coup drama. Aw I like gasped what I saw that because like some a blurred takes one as a meanwhile Michelle gellar does at one pie like everybody. The biggest taking regular Sheri's Hurt Wet Enough Syrup Hot these cherries you're asking they're ruining bears Jerry's. They are delicious to all sorts of cocktails. I love he loves Shirley temples. Leave him alone. Surly temples Manhattan Zoo ours does IBM Dude. He gives her his leather bound. Journal gives to her mother. Yeah because he's been calling her like harassing her. After this whole break-up thing I can't believe he's using the fucking phone and he likes shows up at like when the mother is having having a party over here and yet he gives her. We haven't told the we we haven't talked too much about this journal but like I'm sorry if you're committing all these heinous crimes why are you documenting. That makes wants to. They get caught but at the end of the movie quote unquote vindicates him somewhere. Yeah this and also burn book It's one thing Davidge Journal. It's another thing to have a collage journal. This is a bit with doodles. And it's all clearly just something made by the props department. I hate stuff like this with this shitty when they showed it. I paused it and I started to try to read it And for ceremonial Geller's entry in this. It was like they were saying stuff like like. Oh She just uses all religions to her advantage but she doesn't actually believe in any O- one of the things that so we should talk about her again very vampiric this cross that she has eight. You can't give Sarah Michelle going across to where in a movie because I'm that buffy what's going on uh-huh buffy dyed her hair and she's like in La again. Oh you like this escape man the hell mouth is some shit. I will say a proxy server for acting. I can watch the body without crying. I can't yeah it's just you just can't do it. It's an excellent piece of it is. It's the best thing just weeden has ever done. And he will never top it because he has devolved as a creator and he just gets worse and worse the body. It's an epic Jesse. The body of yes actually here. Yeah I did a guest spot on Baath fee. I was Dr Love On. Buffy the vampire slayer is I play play. I play her gym teacher who dies. GS did come to terms with the death of her teacher. y'All by was also cut out of cooling tensions Zhai played the horny GMT. Oh he would call it cool and it was pretty cool until I got cut. They get quick. buffy related question. Shoot how do you feel about discounting the first season how you feel angel very complicated feelings about angel. Angel is a fascinating show. But it's like it's issues with race or just as glaring airing as buffy issues with race even though it has a black character please do not. Don't just all it on gun gun. And he's like from the streets and I'm killing. His end is like the way. Historians fucked up. Angel has some like when Angel was good. It was really really good but when it was bad it was bad on levels. That's just like I can't believe people get paid for this agree. Yeah I watch. I re Rewatch buffy because buffy means just means more to me in its highs like I duNno. It's part of it isn't a style Jay. I'll admit that I also think it it does some really fascinating fascinating things with television as a medium again just we. You're never gonNA get better than that. You're not a movie director. Sorry Oh God you're not that much to do about nothing on iphone. Looked like garbage. That fucking movie is disgrace because it's just like your fucking rich people. They're all friends in real life. Let's hang out at my house and just make this thing. I Dunno it's theatrically released in his everywhere now. Well what a fucking an achievement. Yeah I mean we're going to do that like I'm just brakes famous famous friends. You like A. We're low budget horror movie sign. Don't do that protection. Shakespeare thing that you don't you don't even understand anyway. I exactly. We didn't come on BOO. I know you. I've seen season seven of buffy. I know your limit but Service will go. Has this cross. That has cocaine in it at all times. Gene Cross US cocaine cross my solo album cross pain and Bosque so like she. She six Ronald on him. She's like you know by the way Ronald he hit me which is not in the movie. And I don't know if it's supposed because it's no it's total law. She's a liar. She's a liar manipulative. Yeah she's one line must fuck me and he also had sex with your girlfriend cecile and he's and he rushes after him and and after Philipe gives her the journal this is the end of the movie and she and that by the least sexy name of all time a net. I kept thinking like who what what is. This doesn't seem to be a one thousand nine hundred ninety nine high school kind of weird not all kinds of weird especially a holdover from dangerous liaisons. I don't know about a net. I mean it's all their titles though it's not I don't think you even hear their names. It's like something. Is He. Count Valmont. He's become a okay and but like honestly you name your kids bashing you're you're turning them into a sex criminal even the crab from Little Mermaid. Oh yeah that's great. I was a Horny Crustacean. Man we apologize Joe is anyone listening named Bash Dr Gorka. He's quite on the level but missile-like and that is rushing down to apologize or like reconcile with him. He's walking along Central Park and Ronald Confronts Him and they get into a fight right in the middle of like park dry. There's cars whizzing by them. There's bikes look. I'm going to fight you. Let's get into the park do that. It's also weird thing. We're like when reese witherspoon soon leaves her super mansion. She's just Kinda like wandering around like it's really like the spatial relationship between the three characters makes no fucking sense. And the fact that they wind up all converging in the largest park in the city like making one summer in the country if we're in Westchester the whole time or whatever so they fight for a bit and then a net tries to break them up and I think Ronald accidentally pushes her into the street and then Sebastian jumps in front of a cab and he goes up. Dude Oh yeah yes hi this cab like. I haven't seen this movie since it like came out and I was just like wait. No not that many hogs. But I'm not gonNA stop keeps got. Yeah in Austin powers. Steamroller ever get out of the way he gets hit then he dies. Yes yeah I have to say I remembered this completely differently and this this was like the test which I have not seen this movie in a long time I remembered him getting getting hit by a car. Ish like in front of the church. Where like the funeral is? I thought that whole thing was like the end of the move some reason and I also have this vague totally fake obviously incorrect memory of ceremony show was the one drug smuggling grants or something it would make way better than the wicked witch of the east. Fuck music that was playing in this fucking baby dies. Thinks he had a full life because he had a bunch of sex. I guess he says I love you to a net and the net says Ou. ooh That's and if I'm wrong I'm getting the fuck out of that is the deleted scene of Ronald running from the police. Because that's like it's never addressed like what happened here. We just like cut to this funeral. Bullet come like that character is completely out of the movie. My black ASS would've been gone it just jogging in central park. Do Not know his name. He's just a guy that's right. They never cross pads ADS again. That's why should have had some like big party scene so people could know each other also like big party scenes in like high school movies. There's so much fine. Yeah totally I never went to parties highs but it helped me imagine American pie the same year Ryen Philippic could be jackie lighting and with Solo. Hello Cop there's a lot of gags there perennially unsexy teens. Yeah I also tried to envision what that was like going to parties. I went to one one party wants and there was a bunch of Dulce. They're like drinking with children. And My oh I'm not going to the parent parties. Were always the worst. It was like you you kids can drink down in the basement just drive. We'll be up here also drinking. This was not a cool parent party. My friend these were just dudes hanging around society. I wish it was that wealthy Chris Erik walked in on the shunting. Magin the shunting. You'RE GONNA Barn Barn Party. No it was just a house justice but it's a house. There were some cows in it but it was some co play. There's paved floor got milk to that day. No ice a yeah. Vanessa wasn't a party guy so this is when Sarah Michelle Gellar Taylor is going to give her eulogy at the school. And we're finally fucking highschool. Thank minute one high school and she runs a risk in the bathroom. The movie it's like they're kind of she each one knows about the other but won't say it kind of thing I've been there a woman when you're in the bathroom and like I know you because like you like fuck some dude I know reputations all the time it will intentions intentions towards that women. Do you think that's totally. I have towards Ho. How C- dudes don't talk in the bathroom bathroom? No I mean. It's a bad experience in there as it is. But if you're a dude talk like trying to talk to another guy in the bathroom shut the fuck up. I'm in here to use the restroom and leave Ed my old office. They were bathroom talk. Just chatterboxes time. Yeah I had to stop using urinals. Wow I'm sorry. Snow a urine at home here in at. Yeah I was going to let that go with. Thank you for the right decision. It's supposed to be urinate. It was supposed to be all languages you know like you guys no language. I see in reading like hieroglyphics even comes out a little. Like I'm saying you know bird. Yeah Yeah I can't even send symbol circle line in it. Your advanced apologies to ancient Egypt. The question about the the Coke Cross. Sure 'cause she's she's taken a bomb at the start of this scene. Wow cowcross I recall seeing the cross cross at the beginning of the movie because she pulls it out Christine Bransky and has some bullshit line of like. Oh when I'm lost. I just look at this kind of thing. Do we know prior to the bathroom. Seen the coconut earlier does she. Okay I think I was lighting up at that point. I miss that when Baranowski leaves she takes a right there in that same better look out there. Yeah she's got a call cross yup confiscated a lot of these being Jim. DC Are you know Combo you better knock your media that the coke across I had some troubles back in the day and it's called the director. Come boys come boy. Let's go again. I'm going to need another take. Come boy she a a sticky situation. Cast me motherfucker. You're stuck with it. We're we're cutting it'd be calling me come from your. This movie. Doesn't need a gym teacher. It's sexy enough without a call action combined and I don't got all day or do you want me to give you some respect. Call Your Combo Kumble Kumble shoop who good gene like Dad Harrison Ford in fugitive movie. Richard Kumble the only. I did kill my wife. No he did this scene. She's going to his eulogists even the eulogy and as she is the verve picking up there with bittersweet Sam to cement this soundtracks legacy man. Great tune and Everyone is walking out on the eulogy and she gets all upset at the end of twelve angry men for four seconds. Boy You do not realize it until it happens but there are fewer things funnier than a funeral walkout. I was he hard slap in my knee. Laugh at it. This is true to be like I mean I understand that. She should be like last person giving his eulogy. You would you but is still his eulogy. Maybe wait till after. Yeah yeah you can spread the gossip a little bit after. Yeah I think so. Is this like a school related. Just just like memorial statements or is the coffin there. I don't know I can't recall the phone. Sure if yeah. I don't remember seeing a coffin. Okay yeah well because it's because the the movie starts with like that Weird helicopter shot over the the big cemetery in Brooklyn. Yeah you'd think it'd be a celebration. Authority could sex criminals. The ground reese witherspoon gets a metal. We have have the activated all of his websites thirty years later the dead Speaker Ryan Villas on another planet. This huge army or whatever someone someone gave a shit about the only time to give a shit about him is him playing the straight man and mcgruder never seen McGraw fun. Roll yourself a decent size number and just slip into the warm bath. That is my gruber. I can do that so I mean it's dumb his faulk but like in the best way possible because it knows it's dumb as far. It's a total classics. We're getting that television show. Is that what you're telling me. Supposedly AH whatever streaming service P.. He cut seriously not not enough for me. You got to up the ante. I'm not. I'm not getting their picard. Got Me like a breath. Twilight zone discovery got me into CBS. All access but now cards like got me sticking. Yeah as much as I love the gruber film tell who's coming back. As Kristen wig their fourth just forte. I've no idea kristen widow. Come Up. He's GonNa be in the wonder why she's Yes. Oh that's that's right. I'm curious I'm so so in a trailer curious about how they're going to pull off Cheetah a huge chester. Yes yes he's the Cheetah's guy it's a genius haven't had she doesn't so we'll I'm hungry. mcgrew blue. I'm so curious about that movie I really I hope for the best. I'm like a big wonder woman fan. I Love Cheetah. There's some good stuff if about the first movie. There's some not good Danny Houston but I'm curious. It looks fun fun. I'm curious because it's either it'd be a CGI mountain auden monster fest. I heard it's a lot of practical effects of the Cheetah. That's pretty cool. That would be smart. And that's I know nothing about Wonder Woman Cheetah Villain Alan. Yeah Selma Blair handing out the journal at this point and click and everyone extra. Everyone's reading it and immediately understanding the context immediately understanding that she's bad then like the looks that they're giving them like jaw dropping better extras. There's these three Pale. The Irish kids nowhere all. I would've loved if it was like twenty five minutes. Still shot of them like reading all the way through and then like last page. Oh my God Michelle feel like in real life like she would have have gotten over. This little issue is actually not that big a come up in you know totally. I mean by Thanksgiving break like any. It'll pat even the the the the dean whatever fines or cocaine crosses in the journals mysterious Graham and it's like a rich high school she'll be fine suspension. I should read the wikipedia for the the plot description of the film where somebody wrote on Wikipedia added. They're kind of their own thing. ooh I love their own spin on things so and then it's hit did at. She gets expelled from school for an possibly arrested. The death of Sebastian. That's to do to her lies. That started the whole thing actually says due to her lies that started the home. Ah The plots description of at. That's not what happening note at all unless unless it's at the beginning of cruel intentions agents to that but I still don't give a shit because it's not fair it's not and it's it in dangerous liaisons dual duel that he gets killed in. That's how that's something that would make more sense of. Sebastian doesn't die. Either he got expelled baby stakes anyway to add this death is generally you know getting hit by a car yeah movies. I'm like okay. So what is your dust off in a second. It's like Russell Crowe at the end of La confidential. I Dunno so like that's and that's the move. Oh No actually the last shot is I don't know at what point did he die in the street did he make his will where he will restore. There's a car guar he he he got the car man. I was asking the same question last night. No answers to be found. I think she stole it. Hold on a second. We gotta watch cruel intentions attention to that mentioned Sebastian Valmont as being alive. It's a prequel that much. I know prequel them. Why call it to WHO? Then Jesus wait a second. Even younger. sexier autumn's is playing the Sarah Michelle Gellar role. How you doing Netflix? It was a failed TV veep pilot or a couple of episodes of the kind of mashed. Oh boy and they added nude scenes when they realized it was going to go all right nice with with your with different actors. Yeah the collision waiting so I don't think amy Adams neutered or anything like that was canceled television series in October. Twenty fifteen that serve. Michelle is in. Yeah I think the pilot is actually online somewhere. Because I've heard rumblings about how bad it is and I'm like says Sarah Michelle Gellar fan like one of those people that any day now. She's she's totally going to get back to dancing going to do it. That's right I mean the promise of Buffy Martin. She was looking at today. She's got some stuff coming up. I don't know what it is. Sure none of us were good but I hope I mean hoping because I do think she's actually elliot good actress. There's stuff in buffy that like I think a lot of buffy is elevated by the chemistry of the cast big time I mean there were parts of that show that there was a fellow times. Yeah there really weren't but I get out. It never watched it live. It was all like on on a DVD. Watch as we'll just kind of like motor three. I've watched it in. I'm looking at you the three or whatever. They are the first time through and I've also watched like three times. Yes like I I watched it. I did not miss an episode. I recorded it on VHF had like a treasure trunk of like BJ's tapes then my mom throughout like this me off one time. I'm still very upset about it and I think about those. VHS tapes like in some landfall somewhere. Buffy the I did the same thing with Mantis Mantis pair of to put digital tape. ATV tape like taping TV episodes old commercials treasure trove I was at the University of Syracuse a few years ago. Oh and did like a a talk with class and they ended up asking me like Oh what episode would you WanNa show and like talk about since you like TV criticism. I of course baked a deep space nine episode far beyond our stars and they had like the commercials in between it and it was so trippy. 'cause I was like man the ninety ninety which is that. So it's the one that takes place in the fifties where he's like going back and like it's it's like seasons. Yeah I feel like I haven't gotten that far in my watch it but I heard of this episode. It's a real. It deals with police brutality. The captain sisko plays this one thousand nine hundred fifties writer of science fiction. WHO's coming the story about deep space nine? It's really cool. And then you get to see all the characters without their usual makeup so is really. Oh like alien makeup. It's really moving. Trenchant episode of Deep Space. Sherman underrated actor. He's an amazing actor. Really Amazing he was and principal Snyder on buffy totally. Oh yeah replaced Tohbo did he. Not Yes wasn't Togo. Originally the principal and he was but he was in the pilot that he got cut. He got replace up this fat actor. I think it's the other learner brother. It's Michael Lerner and his brother. Whatever David you maybe can? I don't know any events. I know too much about the learner. Brothers the I wasn't aware Mike Leonard had brother to learn about the lack of mayor. Ebert Ebert Ebbert from Godzilla. Wow that was never know. He was not in Barton. Fink Godzilla all right Chris. When when he dies and now I I mean yeah so? That's this movie man. Like Reese Witherspoon is driving driving up to the country at the end of it in the car. She's got the the original copy of the burn. Book like sitting next to her and shares should forever with a smile. That is a a little too happy for free car car so we know that guy but I got a free car. That would have been great. If the turn was like Reese Witherspoon. Oh that would blake. She was the phantom minutes. She was like the puppeteer things about and they were all to get. This call was her and Ronald Together. That'd be great. That's more imagination than this movie has. That is the end of this movie and we will start with our guest for the evening Angelica would did you recommend this movement of the movie going bubbling I'm trying to think of. It's a hangover movie. But but I didn't it. It's boring in in spots and it's not loud but it's not that long it's like what an hour and like it's like ninety seven seven minutes. Yeah so is on the shores. I don't know I wouldn't recommend this movie. If you're a Sarah. Michelle gellar apologised. Like I am then sure dive in happy fun. Fine swimming it drink it up enjoy it but otherwise. This movie is racist and homophobic and boring and spots and it doesn't lean into the Campinas that it has like in in certain moments so is not even that fun on. Yeah now I wouldn't recommend this movie. Let's see I would only let it slide as a seeing believe. That's kind of where I'm like. I was taking note I've taken. I took more notes for this movie because every little thing I'm like what would you allow that to happen. Okay and I remember I. I remember as much milder than this. When the last time I watched you remember any of this crap and then this time I was shocked by it so yeah I think if you've already seen a do not go back to it and I don't think that's worth doing but if you've never seen this thing you kind of need to see just to see where the country was added? It was hell scape. Everybody ninety nine was a stranger. Good for movies still hell scape Sadek. It's No for me I think it. Just it is unreal relic of. It's time to Chris's point historical artifact. It's a little too slow for my taste. And like they're all the Philipe and Reese Witherspoon scenes are dead on arrival It as as sort of weird and as much as I noticed we back before afford. It's not worth watching. If you haven't seen it I think yeah I mean I. It's it's a very recommend in terms of seeing is believing because it's such weird fucking thing my monocle that usually wear now off notching Miss Marie. It's just ridiculous. It is top to bottom ridiculous. It's a trash movie. Awfully made awful awful everything. Let me ask you this rebel to keep your eyes on. No I was now but it was. I was seated seated below the vent though I mean it's kind of a no and yes. Yeah I mean I have to say I felt really old watching this. Oh Oh God. Yeah because I mean I watched this movie a tongue. It was a cable thing soil. I did rent it before. It hit television those well-versed in this movie movie and Chris like you were saying. I think we've all kind of said like I'm watching it. I'm like my goodness. Yeah Oh how could they get away with that. That's in this movie now. They're we're doing what what mother Canadian here that was like. I can feel it happening myself and I was like now your that person you old pieces this shit look. The kids have sex and murder. Be Shocked by grueling. And just go for like when you're watching it and you're the age that these characters are supposed supposed to be. You're like fuck yeah Living this is cool as shit. Yeah exactly I wanNA fucking co Crucifix. I'm an unsexy unsexy teen. I'd like to see what a girl looks like. I would also my girls. Someone gives me lead. I'll go to central park. That is cruel intentions from nine hundred ninety nine directed by the Autour Roger Humble if you would like more we hate movies. Checkout Hadrian DOT dot com slash. We hate movies ANJELICA. Tell the fine folks at home where they can find your writing on the Internet and what you're up to project was what the fuck up to. 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The Female Revengers: Part 2

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The Female Revengers: Part 2

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We're going to be looking king at specific examples of our more modern female revenge right right and trigger warning before we get into it for sexual assault balance and brief mentions a mental health and suicide like we said in the previous episode one aspect of revenge. Films are they are fantastical. They are heightened heightened they are usually ultra violent and I was thinking why this might be while I watched away to them and I think it's because it up the satisfaction. Nothing will ever erase what was done. And if the feeling of relief or satisfaction is destructive. It will the only lasts in the short term as we said in the previous episode. Might as well exaggerate it and keep do we keep getting revenge inge in your fantasy is you. Don't hold back you indulge. You try to imagine how you can flicked as much pain and damage as was done to you and also as we said in previous CBS episode. Science shows we're really bad at judging the appropriate amount of payback. So let's talk about some of these examples both but first disclaimer. Almost all of them are white women. There's a lot of articles written about why that is why women are allowed to be angry and vengeful and yet remain sympathetic attic and deserving of our empathy in a way that women of color still are not but that is changing very slowly these changing all right and another disclaimer. I guess we categorized are examples and some basic recurring tropes the kind of arbitrary. There there are things that come up a lot and a lot of them do overlap and could be in multiple categories but we did our best to organize them in a way that makes sense. Because there's a lot of them earns out and and again they do overlap a lot so could be talking about one example in one place but also contributed to other places yes absolutely sure and one of the biggest biggest genres that we needed to talk about is the genre rape and revenge rape and revenge films as you can imagine. These are very divisive movies that have generated a lot of discussion about exportation and empowerment. These films typically start with a traditionally beautiful young woman getting raped often by more than one one man and then often Leifer did not always then comes. The revenge of violent frequently penis cut off the rape is often quite long and brutal. These movies long have been for the most part written and directed by men which is part of the main criticism of them and the rape scene filmed through the mail gays and the attackers. Pov this puts the audience in position of sympathizing with the rapist sometimes pornographic elements raise the question of rape as a form of entertainment. And I think we had that conversation. For Game of thrones that was definitely one of the rooms that happened there so these movies rose to popularity ability during the seventies in the US which coincided with discussions around so many issues and anxieties around women including Roe versus Wade and abortion but it also was when our society society started taking rape seriously and also the loosening of censorship restrictions. So you can see our feminist movie Friday alien edition that we dearly love for more on the social anxieties around women and how they are reflected in our movies. Yes so in. I spit on your grave main character Jennifer undergoes an unrelenting twenty eighty one minutes of rape in total and engages in about forty five minutes of revenge. The actor who played Jennifer Camille. Keaton allegedly said of the revenge portion that it made melt in our audience significantly uncomfortable. I'm sure it did I hope so. Yes we mentioned that one at the end of our our part one is being kind kind of one of the big first examples in the United States but it wasn't the first one it wasn't the first revenge movie at all in nineteen sixty one Ingmar Bergman's the virgin spring a film depicting medieval poem about a man's revenge against the men who raped his daughter won best foreign language film. It went on to inspire. Wes Craven's the last house on the left in nineteen seventy two and worth mentioning. The woman who is raped not always the one getting revenge. That's something else we'd sort of talked talked about in our part one from Sarah pre-oscars book watching Rape Film and Television in post feminist culture films in this sub genre quote depend on to motivate and justify particularly violent version of masculinity relegating the women to minor props in the narrative. She also wrote of the quote feminist paradox between between a desire to injury and a need to represent and therefore perpetuate discursive rape in order to challenge it so a few other prominent examples. We wanted to mention Miss Forty five and nineteen eighty one film about a woman who was raped twice in one day and goes on a killing spree with her forty five. I focusing on men who have wronged women and then targeting writing any man that crosses her path. The accused Nineteen eighty-nine. Jonathan Kaplan films starring Jodie foster as a woman who gets gang raped at a bar to the cheers of patrons and this is based based on the real life. Nineteen eighty-three case of Cheryl Arrojo. This film does not show the racine till the very and when a male witness recounted event in court and perhaps the reflect the unfortunate truth with that we as a society. Trust Men's words over women's and just kind of throw it out there. Jodie foster also did another one called the brave one which was after her at our fiance are brutally attacked. She goes on vigilante spree Yeah so she said in a few of those kind of an interesting flip on it. In Nineteen eighty-four the British board of censors labeled rape and revenge movies video nasties and they were deemed too explicit to be sold in stores the the Board said that they quote glorified the Act of rape and inspired copycat crimes. Stieg Larsson's two thousand and five girl with the Dragon Tattoo. Later made it into Swedish film. Tom And then an American remake has sipe lot of rape and revenge when the main character Lisbeth is core since sexually assaulted by her state appointed legal guardian. The person who told her money essentially she ties him down and tattoos rapist pig across his chest after securing from him control of her life and finances. He cowers away from her next time they see each other. And there's an argument to be made that the main plot is sort of a rape revenge story and the original title of the book by the way was men who hate women. Yeah which it's an interesting concept because the whole it seems to be an origin story for her which I think you and I talked a lot about Bollywood watching wives club. There's always some origin story and even no. This is not necessarily your typical superhero movies. Obviously but this still kind of the hero or anti hero movies but yeah I guess you're right because that's her origin story but then the plot of what happened in this mystery has a lot to do with what happened to the young girls. Yes and definitely roles with that whole all team yes and I might be mistaken. Pretty sure. There's a new one on Netflix. Yes American version. He is. But there's there's another new one I think CLAIRVOYANT IT anyway. The category is a bit it. More diverse this rape prevent category than most people might think especially more modern Lii and this is where I come in because I watched a lot of still. Wow nearer entries into the Genera are changing things up with a spate of female directed rape revenge movies that do not employ the male gaze at focus on survivor instead. They are also more realistic stick in that the rape is perpetrated by someone. The woman knows Different from stranger stranger danger perpetrators of earlier films in the Shawna and during the scene or scenes. The focus is on the experience of the victim rather than the perpetrator and the aftermath of the trauma and PTSD. For example Corley far shots revenge in two thousand seventeen. This is a French reap revenge. Movie that follows Jin who is the mistress of rich married man named Richard. Wow vacation on a remote island only accessible via helicopter. One of Richard's friends rapes her. While Richard is away instead of lashing out at his friend though when any finds out he of course pushes her off a cliff leaves her for dead engine gets her revenge. there's there's a very fascinating line at the end where he says something like women always end to put up a fight. Oh that same thing yeah And then a also watched this one. This was the twentieth seventeen film directed by Natalia lighter and written by Liam Kendrick it follows art student. Noel played by Francesca Chaska Eastwood. And now's a an introvert and she's a bit of a outcast in her program. Art Is consistently criticized by her professor and the students like publicly for being timid She has a crush on her fellow. Art Student Luke who also seems to reciprocate her feelings but then Luke brutally sexually assaults her. The camera stays focused on her. During this whole thing you can see her disassociate the music drops out and go. There's like a droning humming sound. Which reminds me of my one of my favorite episodes of television ever episode of buffy where her mom dies Noel is up. I consumed and with thoughts of getting justice She does she tells her roommate right away and her roommate says don't report it because I had a friend that same thing happened happen to her and nobody believed her and made her feel terrible about yourself but no l. goes in dozen anyway and Lo and behold. It's all like did you have something to drink doc did you. Did anybody see. How long were you together alone like all these questions? That made her doubt herself. Did you ever say no. But she did. Yeah so then she goes to a support group and support. Group is more intent on A. Here's the fingernail Polish that you can the dip and it'll detect the date rate drug or you know ways of like dealing with it or finding support and when Noel is like well why don't we try to stop the people that are doing the raping. They're kind of like well that's the world we live in Yeah so oh she confronts Ertak or accidentally kills them Kinda gets a taste for it and start seeking out rapists and I and killing them in as she's doing this her art is becoming more and more breezy. You've as a professor put it like. Wow this is so good enough. So that at the end. She's the one they select to give like speech because she's made such progress and then she gets arrested after she gets her. MFA I she gets up and interested not always it so Jennifer Nightingale from two thousand in eighteen set in eighteen twenty five colonial Australia. After the film's Protagonist Irish convict. Claire is raped and she's determined to get revenge on her attacker who also murder her infant child and husband obviously in tandem. The narrative explores the persecution of Australia's indigenous people and the rape scenes unfold entirely from Clair's point of view In the frame clothes on her face can said in an interview about the reaction to the film. What I've learned is the difficult relationship we have is in separating the act of rape as an act of sex as opposed to an act of violence? I'm in the latter. Camp is using a sexual act attent tonight. Another human being. That's aim angry with that. That was a really tough one to which is also when I watched revenge films typically. Stay away from those. I'm I'm like I would never watch. That was a not no should've texted me. They are all all heart break. I wouldn't I wouldn't have watched it with you but I would. At least supported uses techs. Are you okay are you okay. Now it was they were rough life So those are some prominent examples from that that genre female revenge which is a pretty big one is it is nice to see see that women are making them now. I think that is a good step But let's turn to another category here. which is kind of broad but the bride bride slash mother slash family revenge right and I think I see that in a lot of you and I've talked about this repeatedly about how ghost in huntings have a lot to do with mothers and vengeance? Yes and I'm like what but is that such a thing I don't know but it is. Yes so I've you think of these sort sort of stereotypical roles of women as the scorned bride or the scorned lover. The mother whose child has been abused or killed or the dutiful or conniving daughter. Kind of what we're talking cannot here. Although cheating and scoring is a whole category onto itself. Because it's such a big one that we'll get to in a moment if you go all the way back if you look at Shakespeare. He frequently dabbled in tales is of betrayal and revenge in this genre although not too often with women. King Lear is an example. Though to King Lear's daughters Reagan in Ghana real enraged arranged by his clear favoritism of his youngest daughter their sister Cordelia seek to get revenge against the both of them. Cordelia is banished. ashed and her father he does this whole thing at the beginning where he asked the three of them. Who loves me? The most Liga's the first two sisters go into this whole spiel and then Cordelia. Who Does love him? The most is like I'm not sure sure I can't find the words to express how much I love you. They don't exist and he thinks oh well clearly and and banishes her and this leaves gives him kind of at the whims of to to her sisters Yeah and they enact all these plans to for power mostly sleet but as happens a lot in the tension grows between Reagan in Ghana Real. Who are both of Szeswith obtaining the most power and both are competing the love of the same man Cordelia attempts to rescue her father but they both ended up dying in prison? Reagan GonNa rail meanwhile both Perish Reagan after GonNa real poisons her and Ghana real kills herself both consumed by vengeance leaving many victims in their wake and then there is a film called the bride. Were black which is from nine hundred sixty eight by Francois Truffaut based on the book by William Irish Slash Cornell Woolwich went win by pseudonym and this is about a woman systematically seeking revenge on the five men who murdered her husband on their wedding day one by one she murders them them and as the events lead up to the groom's Day the Groom's Day the groom's death are revealed be flashbacks. We as the audience can see what happened. We can piece it together. In one instance she models that as the hunters Diana for one of her victims. He's an artist and he's painting her and she has this air on your. Oh Yeah it's going down yeah shoots them with the Arrow but she she kind of looks at the mural depicting her has a moment doesn't paint over it doesn't get rid of it and as arrested in prison. She kills her fifth and final victim who she hasn't been able to get to previously because he had been imprisoned himself pop point Yep then there's enough with Jennifer Lopez from two thousand two which was based on the nineteen ninety eight novel by Anna Anna Quindlin black and blue Jennifer Lopez plays slim a woman who threatens to leave her abusive husband and father to her daughter after discovering when he was having an affair he turn response informing her that unless she's willing to fight he's not going to stop having this affair in that because he's a man it's quote new contest. She attempts to leave with her daughter and the help of some friends but is foiled who's forced to flee. She asked her rich father for money to help her escape. It gives her just twelve dollars because he doesn't leave her. He changes his tune however when he's threatened by Slim's men and he helps her buy a house after a lawyer informs her essentially one's GonNa believe you slam it takes martial arts classes and methodically plans her revenge. She wins in a fight between them and eventually kills him in self defense. That movie had big build up to me this epoch seen did you watch it long time ago and thought on TBS. I'm sure it was was edited. I'm sure but it really is kind of anticlimactic you like. Oh I see in my life into you. The battle lasted thirty seconds. And half the time was he put her in a corner and she had her way out and I guess that made her the absolute victims so she couldn't be disliked at any point in time but it seem kind of anticlimactic. You're like why What she did all these prepping you would think that there's an ultimate showdown? But essentially she has to travel and trick them and then she ends up. Banged up bigger person but doesn't have killing them chime give them leave. Leeway apparently reminds me of sleeping with the enemy except in sleeping with the enemy enemy. He comes after her. She tries to leave Have you seen that movie though interesting. So in quitting Tarantino's kill bill which kind of was one of the reasons you and I started talking about more more about all the revenge films in volume one invited to made in two thousand three. These films followed Beatrix. Kiddo played with urban and her violent journey to get revenge after she is shot I love all pregnant on her wedding day and she sometimes referred to as the bride actually throughout the whole I it is the she's the bride however it's also kind of a rape revenge films while pretending to be comatose. She was sexually assaulted multiple times. And then if you watched the movie the ultimate bloody blending Tarantino Tena Labeled Kill Bill as a feminist statement and. I know that this was actually written with Mr Chairman and mine and I believe while she was pregnant with our first child they were kind of coming up with this idea together from what I understood. this is a long line of movies with bad as women working for dude. Which Tarantino has this weird obsession with very strong strong women? I don't know if it's a weird but he has an obsession with very strong within. which makes you go Yay? And obviously this was produced by Weinstein gene which is part of the reason. We didn't want to do an entire episode dedicated to one of these movies. Even though to me I think that's one of the big. Obviously big shutouts two women protective being motherly and being strong and with that during the middle of the mini revelations being folly heard and believed about Mr Weinstein stain. which we know? We're still dealing with him and his Walker Self Many people were waiting for a response because she has such a big relationship with both of them and she finally did with the statement she said in a in a tweet no she said in a post I feel. It's important to take your time. Be Fair be exact. So dot dot dot happy Thanksgiving everyone except you harvey and all your wicked conspirators. I'm glad it's going slowly. You don't deserve a bullet. which is very kiddo statement to make and of course? She elaborated her story with. I think in an interview can't remember who the interviews when she did talk about all the abuse in all of the trauma that she had to go through while while filming these movies. And I think we're GonNa talk about another movie Comes down but it kind of just again kind of what you were saying. He's kind of weird that it was created by this man and obviously there's this double full reality of what was happening behind the scenes as well as China empower women are talking about women. Being empowered coming to seek. Vengeance is whole different percents Yeah and I I watch these very late last night for the first time in a long time I'd seen them before and I do love the ending of the second one where the revenge kind of ways out everything else right It has to happen. The it's just been building up right and there's a couple of things within that when we talk about She Orrin character in her origin. Story was because of vengeance when she watches her which was one of the most disturbing scenes. I've ever seen in my life. I think I was so distraught. After I saw it in the movies of her wh- dissing her parents being murdered so also Vivica a Fox's character. They kind of kept it open to have her daughter who witnessed raid murder to possibly come back with a vengeance story man. Yeah never end. Which of course was it interesting concept And then something else we want to talk about the nineteen sixteen novel. True Grit by Charles Portis later made into a two thousand ten Cohen Brothers. Movie starring Haley Steinfeld and before that a nineteen sixty fifty nine. John Wayne Film love that John Wayne Film. I've never seen that one I. That's what I grew up on. I actually didn't see John Wayne Film until I was in college. But anyway so this is a western about young girl Mattie Ross and her mission to get revenge on the man who murdered her father with the help of a US Marshall and a Texas ranger both with men Though they agree they repeatedly tried to ditch her despite her insistence that she accompanied them but she is more determined than they realized eventually. They're like okay. Okay you can come. She eventually does get her revenge. Her target says something like I didn't think you'd do it after she's shoots him and she also claims rattlesnake pit using the bones of a skeleton in there with her. Is that the book because in the movies different. I think it's in the book. Yeah Okay Yeah. There's a lot of theorizing about this Symbolized would that symbolize in there. Then there's Martin up mcdonagh's three billboards outside Ebbing Missouri which is a twenty seventeen film. Film that follows Francis mcdormand's character mildred. WHO's a mother trying to get revenge for her daughter's rape murder and taking it out on just about everyone but mainly the police the pretty much have dismissed on giving up on the case on fact I got hit by a car while crossing the street to go see this movie and then I went to go and my friends I was seeing it with? What's wrong with your legs and I said we'll see I remember it so well you decide to take vengeance on the do the hit you? All I know is a white card from California. That's all I got. That could have been the beginning of a new movie. You prevent admires ever remember. So game of thrones as we were talking about earlier was full of women seeking revenge from Arias list to say as orchestrating. The people of our abuser Ramsey Indonesia's entire quest for the iron throne and her vengeful ending as well Also wanted to stick in here. The Korean horror film bedeviled which has several things including including the loss of the daughter. I guess in some way a loss of a friendship. It was To me one of the most disturbing movies because they're isolated on the small island and she's getting abused by. Her husband is brother. Her mother is just the constant in it. Of course it senator around that and with the loss and then causes this woman to quote unquote snap as I've seen in reviews murdering the entire island's inhabitants. And it's very very brutal but yeah it's definitely one of those up there. 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We're back thank you sponsor and we are back with a huge category when it comes to female revenge women getting revenge on men who cheated on them or who weren't loyal to them right. So the women in one thousand nine hundred eighty nine film inspired by Clare boothe looses play directed by by George Kuchar with a screenplay written by Anita Loos En Jane Murphy and starring Women For all one hundred thirty speaking roles. Including Thi- Conic Joan Crawford Crawford even all the subjects in the sewer Glitzy Manhattan. Apartments are almost all of women. However though men aren't present they are much discussed? The plot follows Mary who after finding out her husband is cheating on her plans to get revenge on the other woman and a divorce from her husband largely at the encouragement of her friends on on a train ride on her way to secure her divorce. She meets several other women doing the same thing gossip backstabbing catfights and winning back husbands. Oh my Gosh I watched this to for this did you. It's a classic it's happening. Someone transatlantic accent. I have trouble understanding it sometimes talk. It's like wait a minute. Well you saying definitely those tough man one of the quotes. I really loved Don't confide in your girlfriends if you do. They'll see to it in the name of friendship friendship that you lose your husband and your and that's from Mary's mom. The movie's Tagline was see them with their hair down in their claws out. Currently during one of the cat fights one of the actress she gets bitten that was real and she has a scar from it was such a big thing that not too long ago. They just did a whole little mini series based based on their relationship. I was when I was watching. I always thinking that in this world the all these women are growing up in have jobs or it's harder to have a job you can't have property years harder to own property and money can't open lines of credit. Is it really so. Oh surprising that all these are competing with each other and tearing each other down. I don't I don't know where I also of note. This did spawn several remakes including the musical the opposite sex which I watch. I'm an old person. And of course. OUR NEW WAVE FIRST WIVES CLUB nineteen eighty-seven fatal attraction traction Michael Douglas's character on his wife with Glenn Close who does not appreciate what he tries to step away from the relationship. She goes down a path of increasingly intense acts of revenge inge including sending an audiotape listening all the ways. He's a selfish piece of garbage and Yeah broiling his child bunny which is one of the more. I comic scenes that everybody everybody remembers the bunny theme. The buddy money and this one is a great example of one of the main differences between revenge with a male protagonist versus a female protagonist. Because you're not meant to root for Glenn close you're meant to see her as over your acting crazy to be fair. She does a lot of things that weren't that Eh. A male protagonist had done the same thing. I'm not super convinced. Audiences wouldn't still be on his side Right because then you also look at. The fact of his wife is barely their barely present in the movie. And she's just oh the film and no one really sees the bottom line that he's an ask cheated right and then whole this won the nineteen ninety nine film cruel intentions which I also watched directed by Roger. Gumbel MM starring Sarah Michelle Gellar. Have you not seen before nope. Oh Wow yeah reese witherspoon or I in Philipe and Selma Blair. This movie is based on the seventeen eighty two novel. Li Liaison Who's written by Pierre Choctaw Nawroz de la close. This is set in in Manhattan at large in a prep school specifically and it's dark comedic within at the time rare onscreen female kiss. They won an award on name TV the sexiest. That's right. Of course Keller's BR character. Catherine tries to enlist full Felipe as characters stepbrother Sebastian bastion to help her get revenge X.. By seducing Blair's character cecile the girl Katherine ex boyfriend dumped her four or okay it's very convoluted but basically she wants bashing to help her get revenge. Sebastian has different plans though including instead to seduces the virginal daughter of the headmaster net played by Witherspoon. So they make a bet it's the bastion fails that do a net. Catherine gets his very fancy Jaguar cars specific model. If he succeeds he gets to sleep at the only person he's failed to have sex with after he set his eyes on them. Catherine Katherine what follows is a massive debauchery in vengeance. Sebastian actually falls in love with an of course he wins the bet but no longer desires have any sex with Catherine and Katherine is mad at this. She manipulates him into leaving a net ultimately he dies and he gets revenge posterior see against Catholic Catholic. I was watching like wait a minute but I did want to include this quote from Sarah. Michelle Gellar is character Catherine and and this is when he's kind of like questioning how she behaves. She says eat me Sebastian. It's all right for guys like you in court to everyone everyone but when I do I get dumped for innocent little twit sixes Seal God forbid exude confidence and enjoy sex. Do you think I relish the fact that I have to act like Mary Sunshine. Twenty four seven so I can be considered a lady. I'm the Marsha Ping Brady of the upper east side. And sometimes I WANNA kill myself. What film it was? It's very up and coming wing rebellious film for sure. I I can see if I had been at the not that I didn't like it or anything. It was enjoyable. But if I'd been at the right age I would've. Hello this is I think. Also just to remind reese and facilitator Selma Blair get their vengeance. They do the whole thing like everybody gets revenge and then might get like revenged overlooking right all the things all the things except for Research Google drives away with the actual. Roy's yeah yeah does. He drives away Jaguar. Who knows but she's you know loving it with the glasses and all so Chicago? The nineteen twenty s musical. That has been made into movies. The two thousand two best picture winner and Broadway shows the second longest running show in history is a story. Rife with female revenge Velma. Kelly kills her husband cheating on her with her sister and Roxie Hart kills her lover for attempting to break it off between them and line to her about being able to make her famous us both are set to gel where they meet several other women in there for killing women who did them wrong resulting in my favorite song cell block tango. You gotta come in. Yeah my favorite song when when you're good to mama which by the way there's a viral video going around with Florence pugh doing a great rendition of that. Somebody's saying our holiday Karaoke party here. I was there there. Were other things happening but someone saying yes. We knew it wasn't me either did then. There's John Tucker must has died. Which is a two thousand sixteen comedy film directed by Betty? Thomas with the tagline. Don't get mad. Get everything. The plot revolves around three women who discover their high school. Basketball Star boyfriend refrained. John Tucker is dating all three of them at once promising each they are the one and they worked together along with fourth person to get revenge. Yeah so in in two thousand eleven two thousand fifteen show revenge on ABC starring. Emily Van Camp. Possibly being the reboot this year with the Latin x lead can be cool. Inspired by Alexandre Alexandre Dumas Novel the Count of Monte Cristo which is fantastic novel and we finally arrive. At the thing I teased at at the opening. I'll have one of the original on cliffhangers. Okay I'm so happy about this. I finally know who shot Jr.. I forgot that was a you. You told me that you didn't know I. I had no idea we would have to remember how young you are in comparison to the show. Okay so the reason I know about this at all is is because when I was in school we used to do this thing where he was. Who Shot J the finger game? Yeah exactly well moving from knuckled knuckle with these right. I really don't know the point of it like I don't remember how you want or what you learned from that but I remember doing it. Okay all right. That's what it's supposed to do. I don't think that's what happened. We really didn't know no one knew why we were doing it. I always thought that something to do with JFK. I don't know why but I now know is from an eighties. Television show called Dallas. And it was this repugnant. Fellow named Jay are the third season. Finale ended with him getting shot twice by a mysterious assailant for eight months. People waited and we're besieged by an incredibly effective marketing campaign. Since he was such a jerk everyone had a motive like anyone could have been the killer. There were t shirts that read. Who Shot J R I shot? Jr there were contests gas S.. Who was during the nineteen eighty? US Presidential Campaign Republicans handed out buttons that read a Democrat shot. Jr candidate Jimmy Carter even joked that if only only he knew who shot. Jr He'd have no problem financing his campaign. The actor who played Jr received an offer of a one hundred thousand pound vacation pounds in the UK monetary unit. If he'd reveal the shooter doctor claimed on the actors new all the principal actors filmed the scene where they killed him to keep the mystery of. You could place bets on it. And so finally episode whodunnit was called whodunnit aired in November. Remember nineteen eighty revealing the culprit. It was the highest rated television show in history drawing an eighty three million years domestically and more than three hundred and fifty million internationally. Turkish parliament even famously ended a session early so the legislature. Just go home and find out who did it while at the same time a fundamentalist this group in the same country called for the Elimination of Dallas. Anyway who did it. Kristin Shepard played by Mary. Crosby Jr sister-in-law mistress mistress and alleged mother of his child so female revenge. This is one of the first great television cliffhangers also sometimes gets credit for helping. CNN end game momentum because they launched that same year SNL period on an episode sometimes called. WHO SHOT CR CR being cast member Charles Rocket Rocket and they've said provide members with skits for how they'd kill CR in at the end of the episode? He ad libbed. I'd like to know who did it. Align that got him fired and there was of course the simpsons parody who shot mister barone's apparently jr was shot again in the twenty twelve sequel or continuation mission. I Dunno did not recover this okay. I forgot that it was revamped Like is it still going. I think it might be well. I learned watch. So that's that's a good overview of that category but we have a couple more categories. We wanted to touch on but first we have one more quick break for word from our sponsor this episode is brought to see you. Bye Love Book. Love books help customers express the sentiments that may be difficult to say out loud and his Christmas time. So what a great gift for someone that you love. 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Leslie spends all of her hard earned money To walk in a path of a snake that kills him and he had originally planned that snake for her she passively watches him die as has the sunrises ignoring his cries for help so another good movie nine to five which I was thinking about after we watched first wives club digging. Maybe we should've watched it as well. All I did watch it and not too long ago I go yes I did watch it a long time ago and I was like my gosh. I don't know if this could be remade. There's so many problematic issues to those uh-huh nine to five a nineteen eighty film about three women. Lily Tomlin Dolly PARTON AND JANE FONDA WHO PLOT REVENGE AGAINST THEIR MEL boss who spreads lies about having sex with one of them Dolly Parton and beat one of them out for a promotion Lily Tomlin who she deserved it obviously and then also Jane Fonda comes in who is the new worker trying to figure out how everything's he's going into what what's happening there. So while they have him trapped in a dog harnessed they put in place all sorts of feminist policy like flexible hours childcare and equal pay. I believe they bring back one of the receptionist that he fires during that time. So when at the end They release the boss who actually takes claim for doing all these policies which or yeah yeah and so they then he gets the promotion that actually sends him to a completely different place so they kind of push him out out but he gets a promotion but would that his superior who figures out that it actually works increases productivity. He keeps all of that in place except that for the equal pay bit but that's kind of the revenge portion or the justice vengeful Portion as they got to keep the policies in place while they got rid of him he's still got the glory but yeah you know nine hundred eighty s has to be that way right. I guess so and I actually watched this film for the first time. Two days is go. Ridley Scott's nineteen ninety-one Thelma and Louise written by Kelly. Corey and starring Susan Sarandon and Gena Davis. When at this movie I debuted it was accused of negatively portraying men all which it really does most of the male okay actors are kind of like? Oh yeah president is with them Twenty sixteen this movie was named for Preservation to the national film registry by the Library of Congress for being quote quote culturally historically or aesthetically significant. And it's about two best friends who go on a weekend vacation together. kind of goes a little. After a man attempts to Rape Thelma Louise finds them and threatens him with a gun ultimately shooting him and forcing the pair to flee after discussing their options. They decided that the authorities won't believe them And so they decide let's go to Mexico it turns out the We's was raped years earlier in Texas and she is insistent they avoid going through that state the FBI closes in after committing a series of crimes. They decide to quote. Keep going and drive off a cliff rather than go go to jail. They can't be the system so they take each other's hands and drive over the Grand Canyon And I when I was watching this which I really enjoyed rated. It made me. That always made me think of the awakening which I had to read like three times at high school. Yeah where you get. You get like a taste K.. Japan yeah and you can't go back back like once you taste freedom. Yeah it's so yeah you just can't go back kind of in a different track. It is. I was yes. Which is the one thousand nine hundred six movie directed by Willa based on the Libya Goldsmith novel about women getting revenge on their ex husbands after the men an ditch them for the younger models? You can see our whole episode. We did on it for more about that. We ask us. They may also seen our live feed on. That one was birth Then we have another teen movie which came out in two thousand seven death proof and I will say one of my favorite movies but mike play by Kurt. Russell seems like a totally totally nice guy but in reality takes pleasure in tormenting women with indestructible car is told in two parts in the first part statement. Mike Kills Four women with his car by the way the character jungle. Julia is played by Sidney. partiers daughter Sidney Poitier which the sheriff's suspects is because of a sexual nature. Sure when he kills these women the film's seemingly restarts with a similar setup. Three women in the film Industry Mary. Elizabeth winstead Rosario Dawson in Tracy. Tom's and they're all followed by Mike as they pick up zoe. Real Life Stutman Woman Zoe. Belle Houma Thurman stunt double in Kill Bill and has been on several more of Tarantino's movies after the fact as an actress and not just a stunt person So he convinces them to try out a stunt car which is a reference to all the old-school chase movies muscle muscle cars but as she's performing on riding on the hood mice slams into them a skirmish follows the chase as with Mike getting away but the women decide to kill him in they do. I think it has some of the best lines over the top ridiculous lines it does also Kinda Become parliament not kind of it. Become problematic as the main driver is a black woman Tracy Tom's who kind of goes over the top with the whole expectation Shen type of idea of angry violent black woman so that's problematic and himself which we can talk about that as an issue in Tarantino and his movies in thinking that he has ask permission to elaborate on that as a white man but whatever this again was produced by Weinstein's also just as a reminder death proof was actually a part of a double feature with planet terror. Done by Michael. Rodriguez rose McGowan was in both of those movies. And so you see kind of a combination of God. I watched this as part of leading up to this as well and it was weird because Kurt Russell's whole thing is cars death as long as he's in the driver's seat as long as his power he can't be killed and he first person he kills. Rose McGowan who's just like okay. I need a ride home and it's hard not to see parallels like real life parallel especially because she is the woman who tells them something's wrong things are happening. Something's wrong And then I will say it took me a couple of watches because of the first half of the movie before I really like it was like Oh actually do like this movie. But it's so grotesque. The beginning part is so early sexist but then you have the second half with Zoe Belle. Her and her bed I mean she is amazing actually ever ever watch just like snippets of her. Doing all of these amazing amazing stunts. It's it's phenomenal. Yeah but I also appreciate the stark difference. ENCARTA Russell's character in the two has the began to the end of what he's begging for crying like a little child because he actually injured. Yeah it is kind of an interesting twist I. We'll say that I really appreciate how it's one of the few provincials for me where it just is like. We're not really going to try to make sense. We're just GONNA lean into the fantasy aspect of this and I love when Zoe's finally thinks she might be hurt. She popped up. She's totally fine. She's like you WanNa kill that guy and they do have Rosario Dawson as being the Mama character so they definitely have those troops in there as well yeah And then okay. This is the last one I watched. two thousand. Five's hard hard candies during very young Ellen page As a young woman who hunts head of files so it starts with kind of like a text exchange like a chatroom exchange and. She's she's playing all like. Oh yes those sweet and gets up to this guy's place then she rupees him tortures him. Oh ooh it's it's a lot it's a lot. I do. Think one of the things about this film and it is purposeful. Is You have doubts about. Who is the good guy? The bad guy or the good person march the bad person. Because you have doubts about who's telling the truth right and going back and forth and back and forth and back and forth and then you know it reveals itself slowly. I I will say many men have told me how awful this movie is and how they would never watch are never want to see it again. What happens? I don't understand. Why has it so so bad? But that one scene where he's on the table is what has gotten all the which I find hilarious to appoint a like. Do you not see all of these awful things that happened to women that is literally the plot the the beginning the catalyst and that was the most I mean. Don't get me wrong. It's not great. No no but it's definitely not the worst thing that I've seen a movie. Yeah it was tense. I was very on edge. That's the last thing I watched. Before we know one glued to let me with surprise and then their vengeance yes Vengeance two thousand and five Chan Park. Luke this is the third and final entry into the vengeance trilogy which is a three obviously three part series trilogy and if all of the woman wrongly convicted of murdering a child and after she does her time in jail in his release he finds the real killer and gets her revenge again. This is another Korean thriller. I will say I have not seen this one mainly because I wanted to start with the first one which I don't think they the actual the alignment anyway. But I still wanted to do that way but the first one ah get really into movies. I don't know if I can do this one right now again. I cannot believe you watched all of these devices back to back. I'm going home and I'm like just GonNa even Wash House painted dragon aren't you. I'll do what I do And then there's CBS is why women kill from Creator. Marc Cherry which tracks the revenge of three women played by Jennifer Goodwin. Lucy Liu and Kirby Hal Baptiste from three different decades living in the same house Whose husband's I think? All of their husbands cheated on them and then I- handmaid's handmaid's tale. Maybe maybe it's like yeah I guess your system yeah system and I would say foxy Brown. I don't want him put too much attention to do it. Because it's definitely part of the nineteen seventies era of blaxploitation films. That occurred and there was a lot of problematic issues at one point. You want to celebrate because as a strong black woman who I used to be the lead and who who gets her engines but at the same time the stereotype if are being angry as well as violent as well as a prostitute. All of these things have this go back and forth Pam grier though is a force so you know people kind of looked up to that as well so this kind of this fine line but it is a tale of girlfriend lint. Avenging the death of her cop boyfriend so I think it is something to know about as well there are so many. There's so many we can keep going going and going the One more small category. Well I guess one and a half is supernatural. They are supernatural kind of vengeance. Stories so many of them are about adolescence. My theory again that we're so afraid of female sexuality especially Young Women Withering Heights could be gene examples as I saw it and a lot of things heathcliff revenge on Henley and Catherine But it's not really I mean it's been a long time since I've read. That book included it though. I thought join in there because I didn't think about that one. Carry a nine hundred seventy six. Brian Depalma film based on the novel by Stephen King Classic Teenage Body Adolescents Vengeance horror periods. Oh my gosh. Carrie uses her abilities to get revenge on her very religious over the top strict mother and on the classmates who publicly publicly make fun of her by dubbing pig's blood on our head at prom causing this whole rift of things to happen because she's tease for being awkward. And over the top strange yes also can carry two which I have seen him. I don't know where it's worth it. But the craft the crafts This one's kind of tricky and this is another one will probably eventually do a whole Yeah but in brief new girl Sarah. Bailey becomes friends with rumored witches indefinite outcast cast. Yeah turns out they actually are which is and through a series of events They cast revenge spells and beauty cells all kinds of spells on people who have done them wrong or on themselves to to make themselves prettier But of course the spells have negative side effects surprise priced and eventually the women for the most part turn against each other. Kinda get revenge on each other right and we will be watching that one for sure I think it will remain include like Hocus pocus which is east. I think those are definitely things that we will have to Shudder two thousand eight Yawkey. Ot I American remake of Thai movie in the movie newlyweds been and Jane moved to Tokyo. So Ben Played by I. Joshua Jackson can pursue a career in photography. Sino wire all these horror movies in Japan. You talk about the American remakes always in Japan Kind of funny. Why While out driving Jane accidentally hits a woman in the middle of the road. But shocker the body disappears to start to show up with mysterious lights spirit photography quote Unquote Jane start to have visions fills a presence. Hang over her turns out that Ben had photographed his friends raping her. Do nothing to stop it and the ghost was hanging on Ben Shoulder which actually also those because he was having an affair with her she wants to stay with them and this was his way of getting her away from him right so when she hit the the woman in the beginning it was already the ghost rights and then we've discussed Jennifer's body before this is a two thousand nine movie directed by Karen Kasama written by Diablo Cody and starring Megan Fox as the titular character who offered up as a virgin sacrifice in a satanic ritual. Also just watch this for the first time and read so much about it. I'm really study. Didn't tell me about because I wanted to watch this one with you. I remember talking to you about this as You know it's supposed to be funny trope and the. Oh my God I missed out on. I learned so much because right. Now it's going through kind of a resurgence. Oh is it. Yes and they're saying because the times right is before its time but also the marketing campaign they tried to convince Megan Fox start a porn site they just marketed marketed. All wrong. It's really gross. I don't remember that I learned a lot but anyway she wasn't a Virgin Mega Fox's character so she becomes possessed instead permanently and goes on a killing spree killing dudes It doesn't really sound like a revenge fantasy at first But some have interpreted as Jennifer's body not getting revenge on those abused her the sacrificing of a young woman being sacrificed by minute alter is too reminiscent of Harvey Weinstein. The system that allowed for it to happen And also at the end her friend gets revenge on the band right. She gets out because he's also going to be in the movie. We just talked about with K.. Mulligan he's one of the Nice guys that's right. I ready or not where he's kind of like actually a nice guy. I'll really okay. I didn't see that one and then we're not going to go into this one. I was thinking about some metaphorical revenge movies. Where if you're talking about like female L. Vengeance as seen through climate change mother Earth's I this I remember when I saw mother exclamation point and everyone was like what is it? A metaphor for some people thought it was mother. Yeah Yeah but that's a lot of our lot has a lot of a whole but that brings us to the end of this episode episode if you if we missed any if you want to share any. Oh Yeah we did so you should tell us your favorite exactly. Send your favorites to email steph media. Mom's death at IHEARTMEDIA DOT com. You can also find us on twitter at mom stuff podcast or on instagram stuff. I'll never told you things. It's always tour super producer. Andrew Howard. Thanks thanks thank you for listening. Never told US production of iheartradio. 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SMNTY Podcast and Chill Playlist, Episode 6:The Female Revengers: Part 2

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SMNTY Podcast and Chill Playlist, Episode 6:The Female Revengers: Part 2

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One aspect of revenge films are they are fantastical. They are heightened. They are usually ultra violent and I was thinking why. This might be watched to way too many of them. And I think it's because it ups. The satisfaction nothing will ever erase what was done. And if the feeling of relief or satisfaction is destructive, it will only last in short term as we said in the previous episode. Might as well exaggerate it and keep doing. Keep getting revenge and your fantasies, you don't hold back you indulge. You. Try to imagine how you can inflict as much pain and damage as was done to you, and also as we said in the previous episode, science shows were really bad at judging the appropriate amount of payback. So, let's talk about some of these examples, but first disclaimer. Almost all of them are women. There's a lot of articles written about why that is. A white women are allowed to be angry and vengeful yet remain sympathetic and deserving of our empathy in a way that women of color still are not, but that is changing very slowly. Changing. All right. And another disclaimer I guess we categorized are examples and some basic recurring tropes, the kind of arbitrary there. There are things that come up a lot. A lot of them do overlap and could be in multiple categories, but we did our best to organize them in a way that. yes, because there's a lot of them earns out and again they do overlap a lot, so you could be talking about one example in one place, but also attributed to other places, yes, absolutely for sure and one of the biggest genres that we needed to talk about is the Genera rape and revenge, rape and revenge films as you can imagine, these are very divisive movies that have generated a lot of discussion about exploitation and empowerment. These films typically start with a traditionally beautiful young woman gang rapes, often by more than one man, and then often left for did not always then comes the revenge. Violent frequently appeanas gets cut off. The rape is often quite long and brutal. These movies long have been for the most part in directed by men, which is part of the main criticism of them and the rape scene filmed through the mail, gays and the attackers Pov this audience and position of sympathizing with the rapist. Does sometimes, pornographic elements raise the question of rape as a form of entertainment and I think we had the conversation for game of thrones. That was definitely one of the best. That happened there, so these movies rose to popularity during the seventies in the US which coincided with discussions around so many issues and anxieties around women, including Roe versus Wade and abortion, but also was when our society started taking rape seriously and also the loosening of censorship restrictions, so you can see our feminists movie Friday Alien Edition. That we dearly love for more on the social anxieties around women, and how they are reflected our movies. Yes, so in I spit on your grave main character Jennifer undergoes and. Twenty one minutes of rape in total and engages in about forty five minutes of revenge. The actor who played Jennifer Camille Keaton allegedly said of the revenge portion that it made melts in our audience. Significantly uncomfortable I'm sure it did I hope so. and yes, we mentioned that one at the end of our our part one is being kind of one of the big first examples in the United States. But it wasn't the first one. It wasn't the first rape revenge movie at all. In nineteen, sixty one Ingmar Bergman's the Virgin Spring, a film, depicting a medieval poem about a man's revenge against the men who raped his daughter won best foreign language film. It went on to inspire wes. Craven's the last house on the left in Nineteen seventy-two. And worth mentioning the woman who is raped, not always the one getting revenge. That's something else. We sort of talked about in our part one from Sarah, book, watching Rape Film and Television in Post, feminist culture films in this sub genre quote depend on rape to motivate and justify particularly violent version of masculinity, relegating the women to minor props in the narrative, she also wrote of the quote, feminist paradox between a desire to injury and the need to represent and therefore perpetuate discursive rape in order to challenge it. So a few other prominent examples, we wanted to mention Miss Forty five and nineteen eighty one film about a woman who was raped twice in one day, and goes on a killing spree with her forty five I, focusing on men who have wronged women, and then targeting any man that crosses her path, the accused and Nineteen eighty-nine Jonathan Kaplan film starring Jodie foster as a woman who gets gang, raped at a bar to the cheers of patrons, and this is based on the real life nineteen eighty-three Cases Cases Share Arrojo. This film does not show the racine till the very end when a male witness recounted event in court, and perhaps the reflect the unfortunate, too that we as a society trust men's words over women's and just Kinda. Throw it out there. Jodie foster also did another one called the brave one, which was after her at her fiance are brutally attacked. She goes on on a vigilante spree Yeah, so she's been in a few of those. That's kind of an interesting flip on it. In, Nineteen eighty-four, the British board of. labeled. Rape and revenge movies Video Nasties, and they were deemed too explicit to be sold in stores. The Board said that they quote glorified the Act of rape and inspired Copycat Crimes Stike Larson's two thousand five book girl with the Dragon Tattoo later made it into a Swedish film, and then an American remake has a lot of rape and revenge when the main character Elizabeth is course and sexually assaulted by her state appointed legal guardian, the person who controls her money essentially she ties him down and tattoos, rapist pig across his chest, after securing from him control of her life and finances. He cowers away from her next time. They see each other, and there's an argument to be made that the main plot is sort of rape, revenge, story and the original title of the book by the way it. It was men who hate women. Yeah, which yeah, it's an interesting concept. Because the whole, it seems to be an origin story for her, which I think you and I talked a lot about Bollywood watching first wives club. There's always some origin story, and even though this is not necessarily your typical superhero movies obviously, but this still kind of the hero or anti hero movies, but yeah I guess you're right because that's her origin story, but then the plot of what happened in this mystery has a lot to do with what happened to the young girls. Yes, and it definitely roles with that whole theme. Yes, and I might be mistaken I'm pretty sure there's a new one is on Netflix's. Version he is, but there's another new okay. I think As clear for in it anyway. The, category is a bit more diverse. This re category than most people might think especially more modern, -Ly. And this is where I come in because I watched a lot of. Still nearer entries into the genre are changing things up with a spate of female directed rape revenge movies that do not employ the male gaze that focus on survivor. Instead they are also more realistic and that the rapists perpetrated by someone. The woman knows different from stranger stranger danger perpetrators of earlier films in this genre, and during the rape, scene or scenes, the focus is on the experience of the victim, rather than the perpetrator and the aftermath of the trauma and PTSD, for example Corley. Far shots revenge twenty seventeen. This is a French revenge movie that follows Jin. Who is the mistress of a rich married man name Richard while on vacation on a remote island, only accessible via. One of Richard's friends rapes her. While Richard is away instead of lashing out at his friend though when he finds out, he of course pushes her off. A cliff leaves her for dead. Engine gets her revenge. There's a very fascinating line at the end where he says something like women always had to put up a fight. That same thing, yeah! And then MFA. Also watched this when this was the two thousand seventeen film directed by Natalia lighter and written by Leeann mckendrick, it follows art student, no well played by Francesca Eastwood and no Elza an introvert and she's a bit of a outcast in her program. Her Art is consistently criticized by her professor and the students like publicly for being timid. she has a crush on her fellow art student Luke who also seems to reciprocate her feelings, but then Luke brutally sexually assaults her. The camera stays focused on her. During this whole thing, you can see her disassociate. The music drops out and go. There's a droning humming sound which reminds me of my one of my favorite episodes television. Ever episode of Buffy were her mom dies. No Noelle's up I consumed with thoughts of getting justice she does. She tells her roommate right away and her roommate says don't report it because I had a friend that same thing happened to her. Nobody believed her and made her feel terrible about yourself, but no all the go. Go's and doesn't anyway and low and behold. Did, you have something to drink, did you? Did anybody see? How long were you together alone? Like all these questions that made her doubt herself. Did. You ever say no. But she did. Yeah, so then she goes to a support group and support group is more intent on. Here's the fingernail Polish that you can dip and it'll detect the date rape drug, or you know ways of dealing with it or finding support and when Noel is like well. Why don't we try to stop? The people that are doing the raping. They're kind of like well. Let's the world we live in. Yeah so she confronts Ertak. Accidentally kills them. Kinda gets a taste for it. and. Start seeking out. Rapist and killing them as she's doing this, her art is becoming more and more breathe as professor like the lab. This is so good enough so that at the end. She's the one they select to give the like speech because she's made such progress, and then she gets arrested. After she gets her MFA she gets. arrested. Always it so in Jennifer Nightingale from two thousand eighteen in eighteen twenty five colonial. After the film's Protagonist Irish convict. Clare is raped and she's determined to get revenge on attacker, who also murdered her infant, child and husband. In tandem the narrative explores the persecution of Australia's indigenous people and the rape scenes unfold entirely from Clare's point of view, in the frame closes in on her face, said in an interview about the reaction to the film. What I've learned is the difficult relationship we have is in separating the act of rape as an act of sex as opposed to an act of violence, I'm in the latter camp is using a sexual act attempt to annihilate another human being. That's A. I agree with that. That was a really tough one to which is also. When I watched revenge films are typically. Stay away from those. While, I'm like I would never do. Watch. That was a tough day all. I know she should texted me. They are all heartbreak. I wouldn't I wouldn't have watched it with you, but I would have at least supported you tex you okay. Are you okay now? Are you now. It was they were rough. So those are some prominent. From that? That genre of female revenge, which is a pretty big one and it is. Is Nice to see that women are making them now i. think that is a good step. But let's turn to another category here which is kind of broad, but the bride slash mother slash family revenge I think I. See that in a lot of you, and I've talked about this repeatedly about how ghosts and haunting have a lot to do with mothers and vengeance. Yes, and I'm like what what is that such a thing? I don't know, but it is. Yeah so if you think of these sort of stereotypical roles of women as the scorned bride scorned lover, the mother, whose child has been abused or killed, or the do to full or conniving daughter kind of what we're talking about here, although cheating and scoring is a whole category onto itself, because it's such a big one that we'll get to in a moment. If, you go all the way back if you look at Shakespeare frequently dabbled in tales of betrayal and revenge in this genre, although not too often with women King Lear is an example though to King Lear's daughters, Reagan and Ghana real enraged by his clear favouritism of his youngest daughter, their sister Cordelia seek to get revenge against the both of them Cordelia is banished and her father. He does this whole thing at the beginning where he asked the three of them. WHO LOVES ME THE MOST? Egos I know and the first two sisters. Go into these this whole spiel and then Cordelia. Who Does love him? The most is like I'm not sure. I I can't find the words to express how much I love you. They don't exist, and he thinks oh well clearly and banishes her. And this leaves him kind of at the whims of to to her sisters. Yeah, and they enact all these plans to power mostly, but as happens a lot in the the tension grows between Reagan and Ghana real who are both obsessed with obtaining the most power, and both are competing for the love of the same man. Cordelia attempts to rescue her father, but they both ended up dying in prison. Regan and gonorrhea, meanwhile both parish Reagan after gonorrhea poisons, her and Ghana real kills herself both consumed by vengeance, leaving many victims in their wake. And then there is a film called. The bride were black, which is from nine, hundred, sixty, eight by Francois Truffaut based on the book by William Irish Slash, Cornell Wall rich went by pseudonym This is about a woman systematically seeking revenge on the five men who murdered her husband on their wedding day one by one she murders them, and as the events lead up to the groom's Day, the Groom's Day the groom's death are revealed. Be Flashbacks. We as the audience can see what happened. We can piece it together. In one instance she models that as the hunters Diana for one of her victims. He's an artist and he's painting her and she has this and your Oh. Yeah, going down, it's. Taboo. Shoots him with the Arrow, but she she kind of looks at the mural. Depicting her has a moment doesn't paint over. It doesn't get rid of it. And is arrested in prison. She kills her fifth and final victim who she hasn't been able to get to previously because he had been imprisoned himself pop point Yup. Then there's enough with Jennifer. Lopez from two thousand and two, which was based on the nineteen, Ninety, eight, novel by Anna Quindlen, black and blue Jennifer Lopez plays slim, a woman who threatens to leave her abusive husband and father to daughter after discovering, he was having an affair. He meets her in response, informing her that unless she's willing to fight, he's not going to stop having this affair and that because he's a man. It's quote new contest. She attempts to leave with her daughter and the help of some friends, but is foiled. She was forced to flee. She asked her rich father for money to help her escape. It gives her just twelve dollars because he doesn't leave her. He changes his tune however when he's threatened by slim's husbands, men and he helps her buy a house after a lawyer informs her essentially no one's GonNa believe you slam. It takes martial arts classes, and methodically plans her revenge. She wins a fight between them and eventually kills him in self defense movie. Had this big build up to me. This epoch seen. Did you watch it? Long time ago and thought TBS. Sure it was edited. I'm sure, but it really is kind of anticlimactic. I. Maybe. This is me needing. In my life into. That lasted thirty seconds, and half the time was, he put her in a corner, and she had a fight her way out, and I guess that made her the absolute victims, so she couldn't be disliked at any point in time, but it seemed kind of anticlimactic. You're like why. Did. She did all these prepping. You would think that there's an ultimate showdown essentially is she has to trap trick them, and then she ends up being the bigger person. But does end up killing him trying to give him his Lee. Leeway apparently reminds me of of sleeping with the enemy except in sleeping with the enemy. He comes after her. She just tries to leave. Have you seen that movie though it's interesting so in quitting Tarantino's kill bill, which the kind of was one of the reasons I started talking about more and more about all the revenge film in volume, one environment to in two thousand three, these films followed Beatrix. Kiddo played by with Ehrman and her violent journey to get revenge after she shot up all pregnant on her wedding day, and she sometimes referred to as the bride actually throughout the whole i. Is. The she's the bride. However, it's also kind of a rape revenge film while pretending to be comatose. Sexually assaulted multiple times and then. If you watched the movie. You know the ultimate bloody blending Tarantino labeled kill Bill as a feminist statement and I know that this was actually written with Mr. Ferman, in mine and I believe while she was pregnant with our first child, they were kind of coming up with this idea together from what I understood This is a long line of movies with bad as women working for a dude, which Tarantino has weird obsession with very strong women I don't know if a weird, but he has an obsession with very strong within which makes you. And, obviously, this was produced by Weinstein. which is part of the reason we didn't WANNA do an entire. Dedicated to one of these movies, even though to me I think that's one of the big. Obviously BEC- two women protective, being motherly and being strong, and with that during the middle of the mini, revelations being finally heard and believed about Mr Weinstein which we know, we're still dealing with him and his Walker Self Many people are waiting for with responded because she has such big relationship with both of them, and she finally did with the statement, she said in a in a tweet. She said in a post. I feel it's important to take your time. Be Fair. Be Exact, so dot dot dot. Happy thanksgiving, everyone except. Except you harvey and all your wicked conspirators I'm glad it's going slowly. You don't deserve a bullet, which is a very kiddo statement to me. And of course she elaborated her story with an interview can't remember who the interviews with when she did talk about all the abuse and all of the trauma that she had to go through while filming these movies and I think I know we can talk about another movie. comes down, but it kind of just again. It's kind of what you were saying. It's kind of weird. That it was created by this man, and obviously there's this double reality of what was happening behind the scenes as well as trying to empower women are talking about women, being empowered and coming to seek vengeance is whole. Different percents Yeah, and I I watch these very late last night. For the first time in a long time before. And I do love the ending of the second one where? The revenge kind of ways out everything else. It, like has to happen. It's just been building up. There's. A couple of things within that when we talk about Of She Orrin. Character her origin story was because of vengeance. Her, which one of the disturbing scenes I've ever seen in my life I. Think I was so distraught. In the movies of her wha, what does her parents being murdered? So also a Fox's character. They kind of kept it open to have her daughter who witnessed raid murder to? Come back with a vengeance story all right man. Yeah, yeah, yeah, never end. Yeah, of course, and it was it. Would've a interesting concept. and then something else we want to talk about the nineteen sixty eight novel true grit by Charles Portis later made into a twenty ten it Coen Brothers Movie, starring Haley Steinfeld, and before that a hundred sixty nine John Wayne film loved that John Wingfield. That why that's what I grew up on. I actually didn't see a John Wayne Film until I was in college, but anyway so this is a western about young girl, Mattie Ross and her mission to get revenge on the man who murdered her father with the help of a US Marshall and Texas Ranger. Both men though they agree. They repeatedly tried to ditch her despite her insistence that she accompany them, but she is more determined than they realize eventually. They're like okay. You can come. She eventually does get her. Revenge targets as something like I didn't think you'd do it after she shoots him. And she climbs out of a rattlesnake pit, using the bones of a skeleton in there with her. Is that the book because in the movies? Different I think it's in the book yeah. Yeah? There's a lot of theorizing. Symbolize what that symbolizes in there. Then there's Martin mcdonagh's three billboards outside ebbing Missouri, which is a twenty seventeen film that follows Francis mcdormand character, mildred, who is a mother trying to get revenge for her daughter's rape and murder? In taking it out on just about everyone, but mainly the police, the pretty much have dismissed on and given up on the case in fact. I hit by a car while crossing the street. Go See this movie. And then I went to go and my friends I was seeing it with like what's wrong with your legs and I said. We'll see. I remember it so well. Decide to take vengeance on the. Do they hit you? All I know is is a white car. From California, that's all I got. That could have been. The beginning of a new movie been my vision. You prevent admires. Remember Mike Joe. So game of thrones as we were talking about earlier was full of women, seeking revenge from Arias, list to say as orchestrating the papal death of her abuser. Ramsey and Deniro's entire quest for the iron throne, and her vengeful ending as well. also stick in here. The Korean horror film bedeviled has several things including the loss of daughter. I guess in some way a loss of A. A friendship it was to me. One of the most disturbing movies 'cause. It's their isolated on the small island. She's getting pretty abused by her. Husband is brother. Her mother is just a constant in the of course senator around that and with the loss, and then causes this woman to quote unquote snap as I've seen in reviews murdering the entire island's inhabitants, and it's very very brutal. Yeah it's definitely one of those up there. When it comes to being a mother, she was okay. She dealt with the abuse, and then she finally, it was like Oh, no, the last straw! 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When it comes to female revenge women, getting revenge on men who cheated on them, or or who weren't loyal to them right so the women, a nineteen thirty nine film inspired by Clare boothe looses play directed by George Kuchar with a screenplay written by Anita Loos en, Jane Murphy and Starring Women For all one hundred thirty speaking roles including by Connick Joan Crawford, even all the subjects in the Super Glitzy Manhattan apartments. Apartments are almost all of women. However, though men aren't present, they are much discussed. The plot follows Mary. WHO, after finding out her husband is cheating on her plan to get revenge on the other woman and a divorce from her husband, largely at the encouragement of her friends on a train ride on way to secure her divorce. She meets several other women doing the same thing gossip, backstabbing catfights and winning back husbands. Gosh. Watch this to for this. Did you to classic? laughing. For someone who loves the transatlantic. Accent I have trouble understanding. It's like wait a minute. Well, you saying definitely those timeframe one of the quotes I really loved Don't confide in your girlfriends. If you do, they'll see to it in the name of friendship that you lose your husband and your. That's from Mary's mom. The movie's Tagline was see them with their hair down in their claws out during the cat fights, but one of the actresses. She gets bitten. And she has a scar from. It was such a big thing that not too long. They just did a whole little mini series based on their relationship. I was when I was watching. I was thinking that in this world the all these wing growing up in. Again have jobs or it's harder to have a job. You can't have property years harder. Dome Property and money can't open lines of credit. Is it really so surprising that all these women are competing with each other and tearing each other down? I don't I don't know right. Also of note, this did spawn several remakes, including the musical, the opposite sex which I watch I'm an old person, and of course, our new fave first wives club. So, nine hundred bagel attraction Michael Douglas's character tease on his wife with Glenn. Close, who does not appreciate what he tries to step away from their relationship, she goes down a path of increasingly intense revenge including sending an audiotape listening all the ways, he's a selfish piece of garbage and Yeah, broiling his child's pet bunny, which is one of the more eye scenes that everybody remembers. The bunny seen the buddies money, and this one is a great example, one of the main differences between revenge with a male protagonist versus a female protagonist. Because you're not meant to root for Glenn Close. You're meant to see her as over your acting crazy and to be fair. She does a lot of things that weren't that. If a male protagonist had done the same thing I'm not super, convinced audiences wouldn't still be on his side right, because then you also look at the fact of his wife is barely their barely present in the movie and she's just the Oh sleep with film and no one really sees. The bottom line that he's an ASS cheated right right? And then Oh. This won the nineteen ninety nine film cruel intentions which I also watched. Directed by Gumbo Sarah Michelle Gellar. Have you not seen it before? Nope, oh. Wow, yeah, reese, Witherspoon, or I in Philipe and Selma Blair. This movie is based on the seventeen eighty, two novel Li Liaison Who's written by appear? Choctaw Nawroz debt lock lows. This is set in In Manhattan at large, but in a prep school specifically, and it's dark comedic with an at the time. Rare onscreen female kiss. They won an award named. SEXIEST KISS! That's right of course. Keller's BR character Catherine tries to enlist full Felipe as characters stepbrother. Sebastian tell her get revenge x by seducing Blair's character, cecile the girl. Katherine, ex boyfriend dumped her for okay as very convoluted. But basically she wants bash to help her. Get Revenge, so Bashan has different plans, though including instead to seduce the virginal daughter of the headmaster net played by Witherspoon, so they make a bet, it's the bastion fails that seducing a net. Catherine gets his very fancy Jaguar cars specific model. If he succeeds, he gets to sleep at the only person. He's failed to have sex with after he set his eyes on them Catherine. What follows is a massive debauchery and vengeance. Actually falls in love with an IT. Of course he wins the bet, but no longer desires to have any sex with Catherine and Katherine is mad at this. She manipulates him into leaving a net. Ultimately, he dies, and he gets revenge posterior against Cathy. I was watching this like wait a minute. But I did want to include this quote. From Sarah Michelle gellar his character Catherine. And this is when he's kind of like. Questioning how she behaves, she says eat me Sebastian it's all right for guys like you in court to everyone, but when I do, I get dumped for innocent little twit. Six Seal God, forbid exude confidence and enjoy sex. Do you think I relish the fact that I have to act like Mary Sunshine Twenty four seven, so I can be considered a lady I'm the Marcia Brady of the upper east side, and sometimes I wanNA kill myself. What a film it was! They. Being rebellious film for sure I I can see if I had been at the not that I'm didn't like it or anything. It was enjoyable, but if I'd been at the right age I would have go look at this. I think also just to remind reese and Cecil's. Character Selma Blair get. Their vengeance. The whole thing like everybody gets revenge and then get. Revenge dove like. Double winning all the things all the things except for re drives away with the actual, Roy's yeah, is it gender Yeah, how does he as Jaguar? But she's loving with the glasses and all. Yeah, so Chicago, the nineteen twenty s musical that has been made into movies, the two thousand and two best picture winner and Broadway shows the second longest running show in history is a story rife with female revenge Bell mckelway kills her husband for cheating on her with her sister and Roxie. Hart kills her lover for tipping to break it off between them and lying to her about being able to make. Make her famous both are Degel where they meet several other women in there for killing women. Who did them wrong? Resulting in my favorite Song Cell Block Tango? You gotta come and my favorite song when you're good to Mama, which by the way there's a viral video going around with Florence Cube doing a great rendition of the somebody saying at our call it. Karaoke party here or there were other things happening, but someone saying I really yes. It wasn't me. either. Did then there's John Tucker must die, which is two thousand sixteen comedy film directed by Betty, Thomas with the tagline. Don't get mad. GET EVERYTHING! The plot revolves around three young women who discover their high school basketball star. Boyfriend John Tucker is dating all three of them at once promising each they are the one, and and they worked together along with fourth person to get revenge. Yeah, so in two thousand eleven two thousand fifteen show revenge. On ABC starring Emily Van Camp Possibly being the reboot this year with the Latin x lead, it can be cool inspired by Alexander Dumas, novel the Count of Monte Cristo. A fantastic novel and we finally arrive at the thing. I teased at at the opening. I'll have one of the original cliffhangers. Okay, I'm so happy about this. I finally know who shot Jr. I forgot that was. You told me that you didn't know I had no idea what and then I have to remember how young you are in comparison to the show. Okay, so the reason I know about this at all is because when I was in school. We used to do this thing where he was day. Who Shot a? Game Yeah exactly well moving from knuckle the knuckle with these right I. Really don't know the point of it like I. Don't remember you one or what you learn from that, but I remember doing it comes as a good. Okay all right? That's what it's supposed to do. I don't think that's what happened. We really didn't know. No one knew why we were doing it. I always thought that something to do with JFK. I don't know why. Okay. But I now know is from an eighties television show called Dallas and this repugnant fellow named. Are the third season finale ended with him getting shot twice by mysterious assailant. Eight months people waited, and we're besieged by an incredibly effective marketing campaign. Since he was such a jerk, everyone had a motive like anyone could have been the killer. There were t shirts that read who shot jr I shot Jr. there were contests I guess it was during the nineteen eighty US presidential campaign Republicans handed out buttons that read a Democrat Shot Jr candidate Jimmy. Carter even joked that. If only he knew who shot Jr, he'd have no problem financing his campaign. The actor who played Jr received an offer of a one hundred thousand pound. Pounds in the UK monetary unit if he'd reveal the shooter, but actor claimed on the actors new. All the principal actors filmed the scene where they killed him to keep the mystery of. You could place bets on it. And so finally, the episode whodunnit was called whodunnit aired in November, nineteen eighty, revealing the culprit, it was the highest rated television show in history, drawing an eighty three million viewers domestically and more than three, hundred and fifty million internationally. Turkish parliament even famously ended a session early. So the legislators go home and find out who did it while at the same time, a fundamentalist group in the same country called for the Elimination of Dallas. Anyway, who did it Kristin Shepard? Played by Mary Crosby, JR Mistress alleged mother of his child so female revenge. I Great Television cliffhangers. They also sometimes gets credit for helping CNN game-ending because they launched that same year. SNL period it on an episode, sometimes called who shot CR CR, being cast member. Charles rocket and provide cast members with skits for how they'd kill CR, and at the end of episode he ad libbed. I'd like to know who did it align. That got him fired. And there was of course the simpsons parody Mister barone's apparently Jr was shot again in the twenty twelve sequel continuation I dunno know did not recover this time, okay? I forgot that it was revamped. Is it still going I think it might be? 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She passively watches him die as the sun rises, ignoring his cries for help so another good movie nine to five which I was thinking about after we watched first wives club. Maybe we should have watched it as well. I did watch it and not too long ago. I did not go. Yes, it a long time ago, and I was like my Gosh, I. Don't know if this could be remade. There's so many problematic issues to those. Nine to five one thousand nine hundred film about three women Lily, Tomlin Dolly, Parton and Jane Fonda who plot revenge. It gets their melt. Boss, who spreads lies about having sex with one of them die pardon and beat one of them out for a promotion Lily Tomlin, who she deserved it obviously, and then also Jane. Fonda comes in. Who is the new worker trying to figure out how everything's going? What's happening there? So while they have him trapped in a dog? Dog Harness they put in place. All sorts of feminist policy like flexible hours, childcare and equal pay a believe they bring back one of the receptionist that he fires during that time, so when at the end they release the boss, who actually takes claim for doing all these policies, which yeah yeah, and so they then he gets the promotion that actually sends him to a completely different place, so they kind of push them out, but he gets a promotion. But would that his superior who figures that all out that everything actually works and increases productivity. He keeps all of that in place, except for equal pay bit, but that's kind of the revenge portion, or the just as vengeful par portion as they got to keep the policies in place while they got rid of him, he still got the glory, but yeah you know nineteen eighties has to be that way right I guess so. And I actually watched this film for the first time two days ago. Ridley Scott's nineteen ninety-one Thelma and Louise have written by Corey and starring Susan. Sarandon and Gena Davis when this movie I debuted, it was accused of negativity portraying men. AW, yeah! which it really does. Yeah, most of the male characters are kind of like Oh. Yes, president is besides with them. in two thousand sixteen. This movie was named for Preservation to the national film registry by the US Library of Congress for being quote, culturally historically or aesthetically significant, and it's about two best friends who we can vacationed together. kind of goes a little right. After a man attempts to rape Thelma. Louise finds them and threatens him with a gun, ultimately shooting him and forcing the pair to flee after discussing their options, they decided that authorities won't believe them and so they decide go to Mexico it turns out. The weeds was raped years earlier in Texas and she is insistent. They avoid going through that state. The FBI closes in and after committing a series of crimes, they decide to quote. Keep going and drive off a cliff rather than go to jail. They can't be the system, so they take each other's hands and drive over the Grand Canyon. and I when I was watching this which I really enjoyed, it made me. Like that always make me think of the awakening which had to read like three times at high school. Yeah, where you get you get a taste. Kate Japan. Yeah, and you can't go back. Once, you've taste freedom. It's so. Yeah, you just can't go back. kind of in a different. Is I was of yes, which is one thousand, nine hundred six movie directed by heels based on the Libya Goldsmith novel about women getting revenge on their ex husbands after the men ditch them for the younger models, you can see our whole episode. We did on it for more about that, because they you may also see in our live feed on that one. Then we have another Tarantino movie which came out in two thousand seven death proof and I will say one of my favorite movies, but met Mike play by Kurt. Russell seems like a totally Nice Guy, but in reality takes pleasure in tormenting women with indestructible car is told in two parts in the first part statement might kills four women with his car. By the way the character jungle, Julia is played by Sydney partiers daughter Portia, which the sheriff suspects. Sexual Nature when he kills. These women the film seemingly restart with a similar setup. Three women in the film Industry Mary Elizabeth Winstead. Rosario Dawson and Tracy. Tom's and they're all followed by Mike as they pick up zoe, real life that woman Zoe Belle who is Thurman stunt double in Kill Bill and has been on several more of Tarantino's movies after the fact as an actress, and not just a person, so he convinces them to try out a stunt car, which is a reference to all the old school chase movies. Muscle muscle cars, but as she's performing on writing on the hood Mike Slams into them, a skirmish follows where the chase with Mike getting away, but the women decide to kill him in they do. Think. It has some of the best lines over the top ridiculous lines. It does also kind of become parliament. Not kind of it does become problematic as the main driver is a black woman. Tracy Tom's who kind of goes over the top with the. Petition type of idea of being angry, violent black woman, so that's problematic and himself which we can talk about that as an issue in Tarantino and his movies in thinking that he has permission. To elaborate on that as a white man, but whatever? This again was produced by Weinstein's and also just as a reminder, death proof was actually a part of a double feature with planet terror done by Michael Rodriguez rose, McGowan was in both of those movies, and so you see kind of a combination of. Yeah and I watched this as part of leading up to this as well and it was weird because. Kurt. Russell's whole thing is cars death through convince as long as h